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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: Anonymous] #292514
09/16/19 07:59 AM
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Okay, Duke didn’t recruit your daughter, everyone sees through this silliness. Move in.


Thanks for your insight. Now tell us all what we should move onto? Bashing players perhaps? The Duke situation is interesting. What caused the downturn?


You have been posting this Duke nonsense repeatedly. Why? Tell us your odd obsession with Duke. It screams “snub”. I’m just hoping that your daughter is over it. Because you’re certainly not.


Really? Do you NOT realize that several people have been posting regarding Duke? My posts have actually been positive, in response to the questions:

"Why is it unacceptable for Duke but not any other school? Why is Duke Women's lacrosse in a different category than so many others?"

Below was my was my answer:

"Several reasons come to mind. Duke is a Top 10 Academic Institution, They Compete in the ACC, The University fully funds and supports the program, The Program has Admission Slots,
Beautiful Campus, Great Weather, Easy to get to from Hot Bed areas, Up until the past 3 years the program was consistently Top 10."

No obsession, no bitterness and sorry there was no snub. Why do you care that others want to discuss the current state of the Duke Womens's Program. Why must they move on?

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: Anonymous] #292522
09/16/19 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why the focus on Duke. The same can be said about UVA, ND (until this year), Hopkins...


Not really familiar with the other programs but lets take a comparison of UVA vs Duke. UVA coach has won a national championship and has reached NCAA final 3 times , Duke has 0 finals appearances. UVA has made every NCAA tournament since Myers has been coaching , Kimmel and Duke have not done so multiple times. Duke ended season ranked outside the to 20 the past 3 years , UVA has been top 20 the last 5 seasons and possibly longer with 2 of those seasons being in the top 10. As far as ND it has been said on this site many times that her job is or should be in jeopardy.

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: Anonymous] #292548
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Why the focus on Duke. The same can be said about UVA, ND (until this year), Hopkins...


Not really familiar with the other programs but lets take a comparison of UVA vs Duke. UVA coach has won a national championship and has reached NCAA final 3 times , Duke has 0 finals appearances. UVA has made every NCAA tournament since Myers has been coaching , Kimmel and Duke have not done so multiple times. Duke ended season ranked outside the to 20 the past 3 years , UVA has been top 20 the last 5 seasons and possibly longer with 2 of those seasons being in the top 10. As far as ND it has been said on this site many times that her job is or should be in jeopardy.



*** "Why the focus on Duke? The same can be said about UVA".... No, the same can not be said about UVA.

Below is how Duke and Virginia finished the season since 2010.

............... 2010......2011......2012......2013......2014......2015......2016......2017......2018......2019

UVA----------4--------14----------8----------9----------4----------8----------16--------14----------13--------7

Duke---------5---------5----------6-----------7----------8----------4----------11--------NR---------NR------NR

Something has gone wrong at Duke.

The Duke Women's Lacrosse program began in 1996 Virginia began in 1976. Virginia has won 3 National Championships and 5 ACC Championships. Duke has not won a national championship but has won 1 ACC Championship. Duke has made the NCAA Tournament 19 times in the programs 24 year history. Since the NCAA Tournament began in 1986 Virginia has made the Tournament 32 times in 33 years .

Virginia is one of five programs in the NCAA to be ranked at least once in every year of the IWLCA Coaches Poll. The poll was created
in 1988, with Dartmouth, Maryland, Penn State and Princeton joining Virginia
as the only programs to be nationally ranked every year.

For many years Duke was constantly one the Top 10 Programs. What happened?

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #292555
09/17/19 10:10 AM
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Thanks for the analysis, bottom line, if Coach Kimel called tomorrow and offered your daughter a spot, are you taking it?....

Yup. so am I.

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: Anonymous] #292559
09/17/19 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks for the analysis, bottom line, if Coach Kimel called tomorrow and offered your daughter a spot, are you taking it?....

Yup. so am I.


Most players but not all players would accept an offer from Duke. So the bottom line is... with all that Duke has to offer what has happened ? Why the downturn?

Personally, I think they will be back in the Tourney and The Top 20 this year and all will be well but if they are not than I think we will see a change in the coaching staff.

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: Anonymous] #292561
09/17/19 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Thanks for the analysis, bottom line, if Coach Kimel called tomorrow and offered your daughter a spot, are you taking it?....

Yup. so am I.


Most players but not all players would accept an offer from Duke. So the bottom line is... with all that Duke has to offer what has happened ? Why the downturn?

Personally, I think they will be back in the Tourney and The Top 20 this year and all will be well but if they are not than I think we will see a change in the coaching staff.


Hopkins is ranked the same academically, is travel friendly, and has better lacrosse.

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #292666
09/18/19 04:51 PM
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LOL ND has been at the top of the recruitment lists for years now. My guess is that the recruits are overhyped, under-coached, or a combo of both.

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: Anonymous] #292670
09/18/19 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
LOL ND has been at the top of the recruitment lists for years now. My guess is that the recruits are overhyped, under-coached, or a combo of both.


I have not seen IL's 2019 Top 10 Freshmen Class Ranking but I assume from your comment that Notre Dame has the highest rated incoming freshmen class. If that is the case it will be the first time ND has had the Number 1 spot in the past 5 years.

Notre Dame has not been at the top for years. Notre Dame is one of a number of programs that usually bring in strong (top 10) recruiting classes. Maryland, North Carolina, Syracuse, Florida, Princeton, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Boston College, Loyola, Duke, UVA have all had classes ranked in the Top 10 multiple times in the past 4 years. Again, have not seen this years ranking but I am sure it will be many of the usual suspects.

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: Anonymous] #292723
09/19/19 04:27 PM
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ND is #5 and #7 in '19 and '18 respectively.

In both 2017 and 2019 they have the #1 recruit (supposedly).

In 2015 (their recent senior class) they had 4 Top 50 recruits.

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: Anonymous] #292729
09/19/19 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
ND is #5 and #7 in '19 and '18 respectively.

In both 2017 and 2019 they have the #1 recruit (supposedly).

In 2015 (their recent senior class) they had 4 Top 50 recruits.




Most of the Top 10 - 15 Programs will have Top Recruiting classes most years Notre Dame is no different. Maryland, North Carolina and Syracuse seem to have highly ranked classes every year. Notre Dame, Northwestern, Florida, Princeton, Virginia, Duke, Boston College and some others also bring in highly ranked recruiting classes just about every year. Penn, Loyola, Hopkins and some others are also in the mix from time to time.

The two programs that have done the best without highly ranked recruiting classes have to be JMU and Stony Brook. Penn State should be mentioned as well, I do not recall seeing any of their classes being ranked in the Top 10 and they are usually a Top 20 Team.

No surprise that the same teams that bring in the top recruiting classes tend to be the strongest programs.

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #292753
09/20/19 09:37 AM
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With all their success why does Maryland have to play of that dopey Field Hockey turf field...

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: Anonymous] #292757
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With all their success why does Maryland have to play of that dopey Field Hockey turf field...

They don't have to they want to, they feel its an advantage.

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: Anonymous] #292759
09/20/19 11:30 AM
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I think the point that some are trying to make is: if ND, Florida and Duke are always at (or near) the top with their recruiting classes, then where are the final four appearances? Where are the championships? Why do they consistently fall-short of expectations?

over-hype of recruits, coaching, or both.

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #292760
09/20/19 11:37 AM
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2023 parent here in NJ
Why do I keep getting emails about showcases over the winter in fFlorida? So many good schools but we are not going to go down for a weekend bc of basketball and it’s too expensive after going for the ICWLA.
Are these schools looking for Florida players? Where do the girls come from down here?

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season [Re: Anonymous] #292761
09/20/19 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
With all their success why does Maryland have to play of that dopey Field Hockey turf field...

the dopey field hockey field was redone in the spring for the 19-20 school year.

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