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(NA) Re: Girls Tryouts 2018/2019 [Re: Anonymous] #267460
07/16/18 11:26 PM
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You know exactly. Stay away from the donuts baltimore shark

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New to the club seen -6th grader D-how much is club lax per year-estimate. Hard to tell online-a lot of clubs charge per tourney and season . I would rather have upfront #.

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All in around $2,000-2,500 not including hotels for away tourneys. Beware of the clubs that ask for a nominal fee upfront that does not include all tourneys, training and coaching etc. Be careful of "for profit "clubs with mandatory fund raising as well.

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Originally Posted by shootingspace
All in around $2,000-2,500 not including hotels for away tourneys. Beware of the clubs that ask for a nominal fee upfront that does not include all tourneys, training and coaching etc. Be careful of "for profit "clubs with mandatory fund raising as well.


Add roughly $500 more per away tournament for hotel stays, gas and food. Also fees will be added if the team ends up playing in an indoor league for the winter. It’s an investment. If you are smart, you will budget about $6000 a year for club to play safe.

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(NA) Re: Girls Tryouts 2018/2019 [Re: Anonymous] #267650
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Let the drama begin. When my D played Club -you only had a few choices and you stayed loyal. Now club hopping. poaching are norm-its a shame.


In my opinion, it's one thing to have girls from a club encourage their friends from another club to tryout for their team. What I find a bit underhanded is when a club director reaches out personally to girls on another team and tries to get them to switch over. The first scenario is acceptable. To me, the second is not.


Sadly this is becoming more and more frequent and can put the girl in an uncomfortable position of having to decide between playing with friends against promises that may not be realistic.


Girls want to play with friends or in a place that they can make friends . We were phoned at home in the evening and emailed by multiple clubs to switch over. It was uncomfortable and really unethical . We stayed with our club because they really cared about the girls developing and not the wins and losses. BTW she got to play at a top 20 program and is now in Medical School-not to brag but to prove a point.

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Some clubs are about the social life, some are about the development of its players, and some are about nothing more than making money. Do your homework. In the end all that matters is that your daughter is getting better as a player and having fun and making memories doing it.

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Truth is there are only a few clubs that are worth the money. And playing on a B team no longer makes any sense. It used to be that M&D Red, SW White, Hero's White were better than most A teams. This is no longer the case as there are so many options now. But take a look at the G8 divisions. If you aren't playing on one of the teams in the top 2 divisions you are wasting your time and money. And if your daughter's team wasn't invited to G8 that should tell you something too.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some clubs are about the social life, some are about the development of its players, and some are about nothing more than making money. Do your homework. In the end all that matters is that your daughter is getting better as a player and having fun and making memories doing it.


Agreed completely. It would be great to get some personal experiences good and bad with different clubs to help new parents and girls looking for right fit.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Truth is there are only a few clubs that are worth the money. And playing on a B team no longer makes any sense. It used to be that M&D Red, SW White, Hero's White were better than most A teams. This is no longer the case as there are so many options now. But take a look at the G8 divisions. If you aren't playing on one of the teams in the top 2 divisions you are wasting your time and money. And if your daughter's team wasn't invited to G8 that should tell you something too.


Cannot agree with this post whatsoever. Our daughter is in her final season with one of the teams mentioned above. 10 of her teammates are Division I recruited to great schools, the others are attending a mix of Division II and III schools. They have beaten numerous "A" teams, however struggle against some of the top tier A teams. We would witness 25-30 DI coaches on the sidelines during their freshman and sophomore seasons and most girls were recruited before the rule changes.

Teams that have strong "A" and "B" teams show that they are viable. Teams that have only 1 team per age group sometimes don't get invited to larger tournaments, such as LFTC, G8, etc. Definitely agree that there are more options, but you don't have to be in the top 2 divisions of a tournament to be "seen". Good luck with finding a great club that has knowledgeable coaches that will push/challenge your daughter to be the best she can be.

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The most stressed-out, blank coaches I have ever run across in girls lacrosse are coaches of B teams who are forced by their program to play in A. This bill of goods ("our club is so strong even our B teams play in A") can lead to a lot of pressure on coaches and kids. Every B roster has a decent number of girls who are not A girls or who don't want to be there.. That said, the M&D and Heros B teams are typically excellent. The 2020 Heros White just made it to the championship game of the Mid-Atlantic Club Championship.

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Which club are you referring to with all the "B team" college recruits? What colleges are they attending?

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The most stressed-out, blank coaches I have ever run across in girls lacrosse are coaches of B teams who are forced by their program to play in A. This bill of goods ("our club is so strong even our B teams play in A") can lead to a lot of pressure on coaches and kids. Every B roster has a decent number of girls who are not A girls or who don't want to be there.. That said, the M&D and Heros B teams are typically excellent. The 2020 Heros White just made it to the championship game of the Mid-Atlantic Club Championship.


Maybe thats not the reason B teams play in A divisions. Maybe its because the coaches of said teams want their players to get better by playing the tougher, stronger, faster competition. Don’t think it has anything to do with believing their B teams are just as good as their A teams. If that were the case, then wouldn’t they just have two A teams? Ding Dong. I have B player whose team played in the A division this year. We didn’t go into it thinking were an A team. We went into it hoping we would come out a better team. We did just that. Our players got better by playing better.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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The most stressed-out, blank coaches I have ever run across in girls lacrosse are coaches of B teams who are forced by their program to play in A. This bill of goods ("our club is so strong even our B teams play in A") can lead to a lot of pressure on coaches and kids. Every B roster has a decent number of girls who are not A girls or who don't want to be there.. That said, the M&D and Heros B teams are typically excellent. The 2020 Heros White just made it to the championship game of the Mid-Atlantic Club Championship.


Maybe thats not the reason B teams play in A divisions. Maybe its because the coaches of said teams want their players to get better by playing the tougher, stronger, faster competition. Don’t think it has anything to do with believing their B teams are just as good as their A teams. If that were the case, then wouldn’t they just have two A teams? Ding Dong. I have B player whose team played in the A division this year. We didn’t go into it thinking were an A team. We went into it hoping we would come out a better team. We did just that. Our players got better by playing better.



I am very happy it is working out for you and I hope your daughter continues to improve and enjoy the game.

The point I was trying to make is that in 10+ years of coaching girls club lacrosse in Maryland the two biggest jerk coaches I have witnessed were both middle-aged male coaches of B teams playing in the A brackets (screaming at officials, loudly disparaging 12 year old girls on the other team, knucklehead behavior before and after games, etc...). My post probably just should have left it at that rather than adding the additional analysis and hypothesis (and a compliment!).

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07/20/18 04:14 PM
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I am very happy it is working out for you and I hope your daughter continues to improve and enjoy the game.

The point I was trying to make is that in 10+ years of coaching girls club lacrosse in Maryland the two biggest jerk coaches I have witnessed were both middle-aged male coaches of B teams playing in the A brackets (screaming at officials, loudly disparaging 12 year old girls on the other team, knucklehead behavior before and after games, etc...). My post probably just should have left it at that rather than adding the additional analysis and hypothesis (and a compliment!).
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Wow-for a club coach you may want to evaluate your moral compass.

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Not sure how this got hijacked to a discussion of A and B teams in tournaments and who is wasting money on "lesser clubs". There are many fine clubs that never win a " tee shirt" but the girls go on to get substantial scholarships at great colleges. And also many "A " girls who take small scholarships at colleges and never make it thru fall ball freshman year. Check the stats on transfers and scholarship money- and keep your judgment in check.

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