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(The biggest advantage YJ have over TG is they give the girls an opportunity to play at a younger age (Hornets). The girls play in 2nd and 3rd grade make their friends there and go on to play for the YJ. TG does not have a program like that in place. YJ having the last tryout is also a great strategy.)

Finally!! Someone understands the business model!!!!!!!!!

Here is the YJ business model. Be the first girl's travel program on LI - good job. Then plug as many of your coaches as possible into the local HS programs as coaches. Then pressure the kids in those school districts to play for YJ's causing an extreme conflict of interest. Kids and parents feel they have to join out of fear of repercussions from their HS coaches. Families on lower level teams fear leaving because of those same repercussions. Then coach your kids year round which is against NYS high school rules. Then have 800 kids to tryouts and give 780 of them a spot on a team. That's elite right?

Elite should be the term reserved for the top team - or perhaps top two teams in a club such as the Yellow Jackets.

Lower level teams benefit by being part of an elite club structure and potentially gaining entrance into some showcase and tournament events from which they might be rejected. While those lower level teams themselves might not be in an elite category, they can benefit through their club association.

Whether 780 from 800 are offered team spots or 280 from 800 are offered spots, the elite teams are still the top ones within any age group. The concept of being an "elite team" does not vary with the number of spots assigned. An "elite club" is one which can consistently field "elite teams".

It is a family's call as to whether the services provided to those lower teams are worth the cost. That value judgement is done based on the family's budget, expectations, and potentially, offers from other programs.

So in the case of YJ, the top 2 teams in each group are considered elite? Can you list the top 2 teams by age group?

The YJ website says "800+" girls tried out for their teams. Not including the alternates, I counted about 770 girls who were given roster spots (to the poster above, I'm good at math so it didn't take too long). This is not a knock on any of the girls, but how can any program in any sport call itself "Elite" when 90-95% of the athletes who try out make a team? Can you say money grab?

I could be wrong, but based on the few girls I know who play I believe the coaches are listed in A,B,C,D order here - just have to match the coach's name to the rosters page:

http://www.eteamz.com/LIEliteLacros...60608&cat=227355&subsite=2055935

It's clearly obvious how it works for the YJ organization. Look for example at there 2013 recruiting class kids from 4 different teams like 70 kids done. So all this talk about A B C D looks like it's worth it to be part of these teams they are finding a place to go to school with YJ name regardless of team.

You should stay with 2019 . P M is taking over the team for Carro, he is a great coach. Even better if you are from Mt Sinai, or related.

none of it is true amazes me what some if u people will write sign ur names then we can talk thats right u wont

none of it is true amazes me what some if u people will write sign ur names then we can talk thats right u wont

Where can one buy the yellow jackets socks?

Someone posted that the 2 2019 teams coached by Bert and Costa were basically the same caliber of player and played each other and the game was close and could have gone either way. Anyone from 2019 know if this is true?

So many conflicting opinions, it would be nice If someone was honest.

Those are not opinions just people from other clubs trying to start trouble.The funny thing is they make a very good point the top three teams at 2019 are very good but to be honest there top team is still considerably better then the 2 nd team which is considerably better then the 3.As to which teams are 2 and 3 ,who cares.

why would they know there on the web site. Any reason for this comment not understanding ur humor. but they r my fiends so ill ask

why would they know there on the web site. Any reason for this comment not understanding ur humor. but they r my fiends so ill ask

HUH? English, please.

What about the 2016 group. We are new to the Yellowjackets program, but have been hearing of alot of turmoil within this group. We are trying to make up our minds regarding joining. Thanks for any help.

What about the 2016 group. We are new to the Yellowjackets program, but have been hearing of alot of turmoil within this group. We are trying to make up our minds regarding joining. Thanks for any help.

Check-out the timestamp on the original post. Looks like somebody stayed at Happy Hours a few hours too long

Lots of politics at play. Top team is very good and is hard to get on. Each year girls on 2nd team are told they will be moved to top team only to stay on 2nd team. 2nd team coach is an absolute wild man.

Lots of politics at play. Top team is very good and is hard to get on. Each year girls on 2nd team are told they will be moved to top team only to stay on 2nd team. 2nd team coach is an absolute wild man.

ok yellow jacket socks are on the web site and y do u feel it so important to put people down. As far as I can see all the yellow jacket families are just kids and parents thst love lacrosse and love spending time with each other. No matter what color team they r on. I am sure it is the same with ur club so y dont u just enjoy ur time with ur child and dont waste time hating on others. Has anyone from the program done anything to u so where does all this hostility come from. Please tell

Those rotten fiends.

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.

Ask PM or one of his relatives. LOL

If yu are a yellow jacket you know where to get the socks. If you need to say something say it my husband or my children do not or should not be the focus of your attacks
Jennifer Mitchell!!