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what happened to 14 YJ gold at baldwinsville over the weekend?

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i think they lost to topguns B team

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i think they lost to topguns B team
You asked the question ... and answered it. Feel better now?

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Um who now are run and coach Top Guns! Why didn't they stick with YJ if they were so great???

Are you kidding? It's because a dad wanted to cash in on the success of his daughter! It's America, go to it, but don't make it sound like they left because they were not happy!

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Several posts later I'm back. Look, I probaly should not have mentioned who my daughter plays for. Some MD mom was on bashing yellow jackets, so I some how stood up for some club I have no association with. I somehow got baited into revealing who my daughter plays for. In the end we are all a part of the same girls lacrosse community, I will leave the discussion on that.
While many posters have been living "in the moment" of the Yellow Jackets vs. Program XYZ, the fact is that the Yellow Jackets have built the Long Island name in Girls Lacrosse for all of the other programs to follow.

While several years back, the Long Island Liberty also provided some juice to Long Island, the fact is that the Yellow Jackets have been the steady franchise which has kept Long Island youth lacrosse on the national landscape.

Yes, the success of the Yellow Jackets has given rise to several alternative clubs, including the Top Guns, offering perhaps a slightly different philosophy or technique. The Long Island market, particularly for girls, has a tremendous demand even to this point with very few premier club options.

Girls lacrosse here on Long Island is going through a transition period right now. New programs are appearing attempting to challenge the status quo and bring more premier training to the area. As consumers, this should be welcomed by our readers.

As for debating the relative merits of the Yellow Jackets vs. the Top Guns or any other program, BOTC suggests that you either tryout for both or visit a team practice on the sidelines. This will help your family, player and parent alike, get a feel for both programs and how your student-athlete might fit into their club picture.

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top guns b team beat them?...... wow are Yj teams that weak

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YJ blue teams are great, the best in the country. all others are misfits going nowhere. parents just want to say there kids are YJ.

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top guns b team beat them?...... wow are Yj teams that weak


Yeah a B team beat another B team I think by 1 point. Wow. That Syracuse tourney is a joke anyway all the lesser teams play there while the better teams played at Lax for the Cure.

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Several posts later I'm back. Look, I probaly should not have mentioned who my daughter plays for. Some MD mom was on bashing yellow jackets, so I some how stood up for some club I have no association with. I somehow got baited into revealing who my daughter plays for. In the end we are all a part of the same girls lacrosse community, I will leave the discussion on that.


my post was not to bait you. My duaghter does play for YJ and we are not happy. We think it is important for us to hear from parents of all different clubs, not just top gun. Again, it was not a bait, it was a sincere desire to know. We realize you can find happy and unhappy paerents from all clubs. for us its about the unapraochable way the yj directors conduct themselves. the way they make you feel as if they don't give a ____ about your kid, that there is always someone to fill your shoes. are top gun dirextors approachable?

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I am just a dad who would like to interject some reality into this discussion. my daughter plays for a small LI club that has lost more games than it has won so far this season. It has competed in just about every game and has played against some older teams. with that said I would be willing to pay double what i have spent if it keeps making HER happy. the enjoyment my daughter had at the pool, in the hotel,on the feild, under the tent and even at the rest stops after the tounament with her teamates was priceless. This argument over which club is better is foolish afterall it is supposed to be about the kids and what makes them happy. All of our wonderful children are going to go to college some will go big some will go small, some will play and some will not. either way they will still be our children and our only concern should be their happiness. Good luck to all the girls the rest of the way and may we as parents be content with their happiness.

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For those who were following the Lax for the Cure tournament this last weekend, the tournament issued a ceremonial check for $223,000 to the Susan G. Komen breast cancer research foundation.

That is certainly the lead story from this charity event. As for the age group results, the champions are listed below :

2012:
Champions : STEPS Elite 2012 Blue
Runner Up: Liberty 2012

2013:
Champions : Capital Lacrosse 2013
Runner Up: Phantastix 2013

2014
Champions: TLC
Runner Up: Yellow Jacket 2014 Blue

2015
Champions: Yellow Jackets 2015 Blue
Runner Up: MD United

2016
Champion: Yellow Jackets 2016 Blue
Runner Up: Long Island Express 2016 Blue

2017/2018
Champion: Yellow Jackets Blue
Runner Up: STEPS 2017 Blue

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YJ blue teams are great, the best in the country. all others are misfits going nowhere. parents just want to say there kids are YJ.


Thats disgusting calling these kids misfits. I just found the class of 2011 from Blue Gold and Green They did very well!!

Gold: Kayla Arnold (Bayshore) Fairfield
Gold: Jackie Anderson (William Floyd) Dowling
Green: Cortney Berg () Union
Green: Angelina Bisono (Haupauge) Cortland
Gold: Shannon Burns (Mt. Sinai) Bryant
Blue: Kristin Brent (Sacred Heart) Penn State
Gold: Courtney Chmil (Our Lady of Mercy) Fairfield
Green: Samantha Clyne (East Islip) New Haven
Green Paige Constantino (Islip) Slippery Rock
Gold: Chelsea Cook (Bayshore) Denver
Blue: Erin Collins (St John the Baptist) Maryland
Green: Sam Desimone (Connetquot HS) Drew University
Gold: Rachel Dillon (Mt Sinai) Denver
Gold: Sarah Ehrman (Huntington) SUNY StonyBrook
Blue: Krislyn Engelke (Farmingdale) Syracuse
Blue: Caitlin Gargan (Rocky Point) Notre Dame
Blue: Loren Generi (Bayport) NAVY
Blue: Shannon Gilroy (Northport) Florida
Green: Kassi Grant (Connetquot) New Haven
Gold: Ava Fitgerald (Calhoun) Adelphi
Gold: Diandra Hanna (Calhoun) Quinnipiac
Gold: Kelly Keenan (Wantagh) Sacred Heart
Gold: Renee Kiviat (Jericho) Binghampton
Gold: Kelly Kuerner(Sachem North) SUNY StonyBrook
Gold: Amber Kupres (Connetquot HS) SUNY StonyBrook
Green: Samantha Clyne (Connetquot) Univ of New Haven
Blue: Jamie Leone (Farmingdale) Fairfield
Gold: Jess Liberty (Ward Melville) Old Dominion
Gold: Demi Lopez ( Shoreham) Sacred Heart
Gold: Casey Madden (St Anthonys) Franklin Marshall
Blue: Megan Marinelli (Northport) Georgetown
Green: Ciara McKeon (West Hampton) Central Connecticut
Blue: Erin Magnuson (Northport) Yale
Blue: Casey McGowan(West Islip) Georgetown
Blue: Kelly McPartland (Farmingdale) Maryland
Blue: Kelly McPartland (Bellport) Adelphi
Gold/Blue: Meghan Meritz (Farmingdale) Florida
Blue: Codi Mullen (Shoreham) NAVY
Green: Emily Murray (Connetquot)Dominican
Gold: Corinne Nawrocki (Northport) Bentley
Gold: Scarlett Nawrocki (Northport) Lehigh
Blue: Jess Nelson (Northport) Princeton
Blue: Gabrielle Nesi (Garden City) Vanderbilt
Green Courtney Oehl Connetquot LIU
Blue: Jennifer Perretto ( Hauppauge)Ohio State
Gold: Christina Rea (Division Ave HS) ) Old Dominion
Blue: Mikaeala Rix (Garden City) BC
Gold: Danielle Robinson (Northport) SUNY Binghampton
Gold: Heather Russell (OLMC) CW Post
Gold: Catherine Schmidt (BayShore) Davidson
Blue/Gold: Nicole Sockett (Manhasset) Haverford
Blue: Barbara Sullivan (Garden City) Notre Dame
Blue: Caroline Tarzian (Garden City) Georgetown
Green: Jackie Ulanoff (Northport) New Paltz
Gold: Holly Ventimiglia (Pat/Med) Jacksonville
Blue: Kelly Weis (Garden City) Harvard
Gold/Blue: Octavia Williams (William Floyd HS) Hopkins
Gold: Loren Ziegler (West Islip) Syracuse

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I am just a dad who would like to interject some reality into this discussion. my daughter plays for a small LI club that has lost more games than it has won so far this season. It has competed in just about every game and has played against some older teams. with that said I would be willing to pay double what i have spent if it keeps making HER happy. the enjoyment my daughter had at the pool, in the hotel,on the feild, under the tent and even at the rest stops after the tounament with her teamates was priceless. This argument over which club is better is foolish afterall it is supposed to be about the kids and what makes them happy. All of our wonderful children are going to go to college some will go big some will go small, some will play and some will not. either way they will still be our children and our only concern should be their happiness. Good luck to all the girls the rest of the way and may we as parents be content with their happiness.


Please share waht team your daughter plays for. Just seeking info about different experiences.

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YJ blue teams are great, the best in the country. all others are misfits going nowhere. parents just want to say there kids are YJ.


Thats disgusting calling these kids misfits. I just found the class of 2011 from Blue Gold and Green They did very well!!

Gold: Kayla Arnold (Bayshore) Fairfield
Gold: Jackie Anderson (William Floyd) Dowling
Green: Cortney Berg () Union
Green: Angelina Bisono (Haupauge) Cortland
Gold: Shannon Burns (Mt. Sinai) Bryant
Blue: Kristin Brent (Sacred Heart) Penn State
Gold: Courtney Chmil (Our Lady of Mercy) Fairfield
Green: Samantha Clyne (East Islip) New Haven
Green Paige Constantino (Islip) Slippery Rock
Gold: Chelsea Cook (Bayshore) Denver
Blue: Erin Collins (St John the Baptist) Maryland
Green: Sam Desimone (Connetquot HS) Drew University
Gold: Rachel Dillon (Mt Sinai) Denver
Gold: Sarah Ehrman (Huntington) SUNY StonyBrook
Blue: Krislyn Engelke (Farmingdale) Syracuse
Blue: Caitlin Gargan (Rocky Point) Notre Dame
Blue: Loren Generi (Bayport) NAVY
Blue: Shannon Gilroy (Northport) Florida
Green: Kassi Grant (Connetquot) New Haven
Gold: Ava Fitgerald (Calhoun) Adelphi
Gold: Diandra Hanna (Calhoun) Quinnipiac
Gold: Kelly Keenan (Wantagh) Sacred Heart
Gold: Renee Kiviat (Jericho) Binghampton
Gold: Kelly Kuerner(Sachem North) SUNY StonyBrook
Gold: Amber Kupres (Connetquot HS) SUNY StonyBrook
Green: Samantha Clyne (Connetquot) Univ of New Haven
Blue: Jamie Leone (Farmingdale) Fairfield
Gold: Jess Liberty (Ward Melville) Old Dominion
Gold: Demi Lopez ( Shoreham) Sacred Heart
Gold: Casey Madden (St Anthonys) Franklin Marshall
Blue: Megan Marinelli (Northport) Georgetown
Green: Ciara McKeon (West Hampton) Central Connecticut
Blue: Erin Magnuson (Northport) Yale
Blue: Casey McGowan(West Islip) Georgetown
Blue: Kelly McPartland (Farmingdale) Maryland
Blue: Kelly McPartland (Bellport) Adelphi
Gold/Blue: Meghan Meritz (Farmingdale) Florida
Blue: Codi Mullen (Shoreham) NAVY
Green: Emily Murray (Connetquot)Dominican
Gold: Corinne Nawrocki (Northport) Bentley
Gold: Scarlett Nawrocki (Northport) Lehigh
Blue: Jess Nelson (Northport) Princeton
Blue: Gabrielle Nesi (Garden City) Vanderbilt
Green Courtney Oehl Connetquot LIU
Blue: Jennifer Perretto ( Hauppauge)Ohio State
Gold: Christina Rea (Division Ave HS) ) Old Dominion
Blue: Mikaeala Rix (Garden City) BC
Gold: Danielle Robinson (Northport) SUNY Binghampton
Gold: Heather Russell (OLMC) CW Post
Gold: Catherine Schmidt (BayShore) Davidson
Blue/Gold: Nicole Sockett (Manhasset) Haverford
Blue: Barbara Sullivan (Garden City) Notre Dame
Blue: Caroline Tarzian (Garden City) Georgetown
Green: Jackie Ulanoff (Northport) New Paltz
Gold: Holly Ventimiglia (Pat/Med) Jacksonville
Blue: Kelly Weis (Garden City) Harvard
Gold/Blue: Octavia Williams (William Floyd HS) Hopkins
Gold: Loren Ziegler (West Islip) Syracuse



Agreed, but what about red, black, yellow and purple?

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class of 2011 had blue Gold and Green Completed 90%
Class of 2012 has Blue Gold And East/Green which are almost done
Class of 2013 has Blue Gold Green Black and East We will see what they do!!

You have NO CLUE STOP POSTING!!! YOU MAKE YOURSELF LOOK SO FOOLISH

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YJ blue teams are great, the best in the country. all others are misfits going nowhere. parents just want to say there kids are YJ.
not anymore!

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class of 2011 had blue Gold and Green Completed 90%
Class of 2012 has Blue Gold And East/Green which are almost done
Class of 2013 has Blue Gold Green Black and East We will see what they do!!

You have NO CLUE STOP POSTING!!! YOU MAKE YOURSELF LOOK SO FOOLISH


We'll see how the black team does!

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For those who were following the Lax for the Cure tournament this last weekend, the tournament issued a ceremonial check for $223,000 to the Susan G. Komen breast cancer research foundation.

That is certainly the lead story from this charity event. As for the age group results, the champions are listed below :

2012:
Champions : STEPS Elite 2012 Blue
Runner Up: Liberty 2012

2013:
Champions : Capital Lacrosse 2013
Runner Up: Phantastix 2013

2014
Champions: TLC
Runner Up: Yellow Jacket 2014 Blue

2015
Champions: Yellow Jackets 2015 Blue
Runner Up: MD United

2016
Champion: Yellow Jackets 2016 Blue
Runner Up: Long Island Express 2016 Blue

2017/2018
Champion: Yellow Jackets Blue
Runner Up: STEPS 2017 Blue


WOW!! That's a LOT of money!! For a great cause. The Yellow Jacket program should be very proud.
That kind of revenue and profit also makes my cynical side question the amounts of money exchanging hands in Lacrosse right now on LI. Amazing. That quarter of a million $$ went to a wonderful cause. Not sure about the next quarter of a million at a tournament? I'm not trying to tell people how to spend their money. I'm just shaking my head at the $$ involved. I think it's time for some type of non-profit [lacrosse] (while not perfect) organization on the Island to help drive down the costs of soccer and open it up to the masses. Lots of kids want to play lacrosse but are not interested in a YJ or TG type program.

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For those who were following the Lax for the Cure tournament this last weekend, the tournament issued a ceremonial check for $223,000 to the Susan G. Komen breast cancer research foundation.

That is certainly the lead story from this charity event. As for the age group results, the champions are listed below :

2012:
Champions : STEPS Elite 2012 Blue
Runner Up: Liberty 2012

2013:
Champions : Capital Lacrosse 2013
Runner Up: Phantastix 2013

2014
Champions: TLC
Runner Up: Yellow Jacket 2014 Blue

2015
Champions: Yellow Jackets 2015 Blue
Runner Up: MD United

2016
Champion: Yellow Jackets 2016 Blue
Runner Up: Long Island Express 2016 Blue

2017/2018
Champion: Yellow Jackets Blue
Runner Up: STEPS 2017 Blue


WOW!! That's a LOT of money!! For a great cause. The Yellow Jacket program should be very proud.
That kind of revenue and profit also makes my cynical side question the amounts of money exchanging hands in Lacrosse right now on LI. Amazing. That quarter of a million $$ went to a wonderful cause. Not sure about the next quarter of a million at a tournament? I'm not trying to tell people how to spend their money. I'm just shaking my head at the $$ involved. I think it's time for some type of non-profit [lacrosse] (while not perfect) organization on the Island to help drive down the costs of soccer and open it up to the masses. Lots of kids want to play lacrosse but are not interested in a YJ or TG type program.


I believe that is the total all teams raised, not just yjs! I am sure it also includes some percentage of entry fees and such.

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WOW!! That's a LOT of money!! For a great cause. The Yellow Jacket program should be very proud.
That kind of revenue and profit also makes my cynical side question the amounts of money exchanging hands in Lacrosse right now on LI. Amazing. That quarter of a million $$ went to a wonderful cause. Not sure about the next quarter of a million at a tournament? I'm not trying to tell people how to spend their money. I'm just shaking my head at the $$ involved. I think it's time for some type of non-profit [lacrosse] (while not perfect) organization on the Island to help drive down the costs of soccer and open it up to the masses. Lots of kids want to play lacrosse but are not interested in a YJ or TG type program.


That money was raised by the tournament, not YJ. They were contributors as were all the other tournament teams.

Is Suffolk County Youth Lacrosse analagous to [lacrosse]?

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I think it's time for some type of non-profit [lacrosse] (while not perfect) organization on the Island to help drive down the costs of soccer and open it up to the masses.
You are correct that for all of its own ills in the soccer world, the structure and planning brought to league (as opposed to tournament) play by [lacrosse] does in fact hold down costs in soccer as opposed to lacrosse.

That said, such control comes at the loss of flexibility in scheduling and, perhaps, a league too large for its own good has resulted.

US Lacrosse does not maintain the same structure down the youth ranks that one sees in the USYSA/USSF soccer worlds which makes it somewhat unique in terms of youth sports.

While you might think that [lacrosse] is a not-for-profit organization, our sister site, Back of THE NET, provides more than ample coverage of the bank accounts reportedly under the control of this not-for-profit.

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Also, the reality is that those players who want to take their soccer further branch out from [lacrosse], just as they do in lacrosse. The tournament teams may be run out of local clubs, but everyone is paying all sorts of fees and travel expenses. Same politics. Same bitching about various programs/coaches/directors/cliques/parents/etc.

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Several posts later I'm back. Look, I probaly should not have mentioned who my daughter plays for. Some MD mom was on bashing yellow jackets, so I some how stood up for some club I have no association with. I somehow got baited into revealing who my daughter plays for. In the end we are all a part of the same girls lacrosse community, I will leave the discussion on that.


my post was not to bait you. My duaghter does play for YJ and we are not happy. We think it is important for us to hear from parents of all different clubs, not just top gun. Again, it was not a bait, it was a sincere desire to know. We realize you can find happy and unhappy paerents from all clubs. for us its about the unapraochable way the yj directors conduct themselves. the way they make you feel as if they don't give a ____ about your kid, that there is always someone to fill your shoes. are top gun dirextors approachable?


I realize your intent was not to bait me, I should have known better, however, to post the club name on this particular thread as you can see the reaction it started. Anyway to answer your question- They are approachable and very nice people. But I will say this: You may or may not find what you and your daughter are looking for in this club (or any club for some people). Some of the age groups are very competitive. If your daughter decides to try out and makes a team, you also need to take a realistic perspective. I feel all players get a fair shake for playing time; they do a good job with that. But just as all other clubs and sports my kids have been involved in, I see players and parents mystified when their daughters don't start and play the entire game. Just because some of their daughters may kill it on the town or school team, doesn't guarantee them the playing time on these teams, remember the other players are very good too. I often think parents are wearing rose colored glasses when watching their own daughters play. The coaches here have a good idea of how to best utilize each player for what is best for the team, and that may not fit some peoples idea of where and how they should be used. Again, from my experience they are very fair to all players and most players and parents are good with it, so long as you don't have your glasses on. Just to get this particular discussion off this thread (I had no other way to respond to you), you should go ask players and parents questions about this club on the clubs thread under the BOTC Main Forum. Whatever you decide to do - Good Luck.

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which maryland team soundly beat which yj blue team? Let me guess your daughters team was playing down in age.I am sure you will not answer the question because you know you will look like a chump.Yes some of the yj parents are a bit over the top but The girl i saw from the Maryland team who threw her stick down and went after one of the yj girls during a game was a real class act. Every team has a few bad parents and I am guessing you are one of them.

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suuuure, the Md mom is one of the "over the top" parents.

Meanwhile you feel the need to suggest that the only way a YJ Blue team would lose is if they played against an older team

and, you feel it necessary to call her a "chump".

I suggest everyone take a step back and simply realize that any team can win any tournament any time, the talent is that good everywhere. Also, all teams have some ill tempered parents (including my child's team) and over aggressive girls.

The only problem I see is that the YJ promoters seem to do one of two things: either they talk nonstop about the success of the program, or they talk nonstop about excuses why they lost in a tournament. Enough already. Your teams lose, fair and square.

And on the other hand, YJ detractors can't stop ripping apart a program that consistently produces top quality talent year after year. They like to say they play too rough or they have "mean girls" on the team, or it is "too intense". You all should tip your hat to their tremendous success and if it is not your style, enjoy your other clubs. And if the rough play bothers you, blame the officials for not calling a tighter game, don't blame the kids, coaches or parents.






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Can someone explain to me exactly how the program works with regard to training? I am considering having my daughter try-out this winter. My question is, does she still continue her training with various clinics and camps or is that frowned upon and she only trains through the YJ's with her "team"? She likes going to the various camps/clinics offered throughout the year but I wasn't sure that those types of camps were offered by the YJ's. Thanks for the input.

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That's funny, because you can play on another non-profit organization that costs $500 and still get a great education after getting recruited to a school. Also it's pretty funny that the "Yellow Jackets" are the team to beat and the only competition out there meanwhile they act very childish on the field and they don't know how to act like an adolescent when the game isn't being baby-fed into their hands. Sure, the Yellow Jackets have a great recruiting background. Too bad the college coaches are showing up to the Yellow Jacket games less and less because the truth behind the Yellow Jackets FRANCHISE is finally being unwound. This is lacrosse. This is a way to get your kids into college. This is a way to make your kids happy. Not something for someone to make a lifestyle on and rip people off.

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Yea ok thats why all the college coaches flock to the
Yj games every weekend and the yj kids in class of 2012
Are almost done with recruiting. They have 44 kids of the 61
Kids from all of new [lacrosse] state committed. Leading ALL clubs
From the entire STATE. So again your comment is uneducated.

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The price of the club is still absolutely ridiculous. You can continue to pay your $1200. I am just trying to save other parents from the Yellow Jackets franchise. There are girls on other clubs getting e-mails from teams like Northwestern so Yellow Jackets isn't all that and a bag of chips; maybe their gold and blue team is. Those are the two teams getting the most exposure and who are getting recruited to the powerhouses in D1. You can say that my comment is "uneducated" but I don't know how it could be uneducated when I'm getting first hand responses from college coaches saying that they are going to the Yellow Jacket games less and less because they know how they are taught to play. There are many other clubs out there on Long Island who actually know the girls by name and care about what is going on with their recruitments.

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She does have tryouts and still adds new players even to the blue team and all the way up to 2012. Carol loves these girls and yes she makes money. Okay that's good for her. You can say what you want, please walk away if you are unhappy. Believe me there will be many, many girls at tryouts. Next year you will see many of the 2013 committed to colleges also. And yes carol does call coaches for her girls. She makes calls all the time. You have your opinion but carol and all the directors work damn hard and are at every tournament, at many of the different teams practices, and spend more time and effort than probably any other directors of other clubs

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That's funny, because you can play on another non-profit organization that costs $500 and still get a great education after getting recruited to a school.
The Yellow Jackets have been providing excellent lacrosse training, team visibility, and Long Island lacrosse visibility as BOTC has stated several times. If you do not personally believe that the Yellow Jackets program is your cup of tea, that's fine, but you would be hard pressed to take a non-profit program and place it competitively against the Long Island premier programs.

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Sure, the Yellow Jackets have a great recruiting background. Too bad the college coaches are showing up to the Yellow Jacket games less and less because the truth behind the Yellow Jackets FRANCHISE is finally being unwound.
The numbers say you are wrong here. What truth is being unwound? That the women's game has become more physical over time?

More importantly however is that you are forgetting that the Yellow Jackets are a regional and national drawing card for college coaches and the spill over effect actually HELPS even their competitors.

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This is lacrosse. This is a way to get your kids into college. This is a way to make your kids happy. Not something for someone to make a lifestyle on and rip people off.
Academics should be getting your kids into college first and foremost. Being able to participate in women's lacrosse is added value.

The Yellow Jackets are not ripping-off people. If you do not personally believe that there is value for money in their proposition, do not pay their fees and walk to another program. However, their results continue to demonstrate a pipeline of strong players from all of their team levels per age group. The achievement should be applauded, not maligned.

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She does have tryouts and still adds new players even to the blue team and all the way up to 2012. Carol loves these girls and yes she makes money. Okay that's good for her. You can say what you want, please walk away if you are unhappy. Believe me there will be many, many girls at tryouts. Next year you will see many of the 2013 committed to colleges also. And yes carol does call coaches for her girls. She makes calls all the time. You have your opinion but carol and all the directors work damn hard and are at every tournament, at many of the different teams practices, and spend more time and effort than probably any other directors of other clubs
Excellent posting.

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You can say that my comment is "uneducated" but I don't know how it could be uneducated when I'm getting first hand responses from college coaches saying that they are going to the Yellow Jacket games less and less because they know how they are taught to play.
Name the college coaches - name the programs. You are absolutely NOT getting e-mails indicating anything like what you are mentioning.

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It was good to see Capital Blue 2013 finally get a chance to play YJ 2013. Capital won the Club Championship this summer and YJ won the u15 championship in LarryMiller defeating a team of talented rising 8th and 9th graders from Northern VA in the final. Capital defeated YJ 8-2 in the President's Cup this past weekend in Naples.
Capital Blue 2013 cruised to an 8-2 victory over the Yellow Jackets, paced on offense by Besser Dyson (3 goals), Margaret Tucker Fogarty (2), and Carly Reed, Layne Vorhees, and Riley Christopher with 1 each. The Capital defense played particularly well. Wyatt Whitley, assigned to cover YJ and U-19 National Team attacker Courtney Fortunato, held the YJ star scoreless. Capital had no trouble moving the ball down field in transition, winning almost all the 50-50 balls and rarely, if ever, turning it over. It appeared Capital again playing like the team it was when it won the National Club Championship early in the summer.


Can't wait to see the Capital press release from yesterday's rematch. I hear the only cruising going on was on a yellow boat, and without their National Team attacker......

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A reminder that in just two weeks, the Elite Showcase will be right here on Long Island. Among the clubs with teams registered at the following. There are four slots remaining (one hundred team capacity) for the entire tournament.

ALBANY ELITE
APEX ATTACK
CC LAX
CONN RIP IT
CT LAZERS
CT LIGHTNING
FARMINGDALE
GREEN MACHINE
HOMEGROWN LAX
HUDSON VALLEY HURRICANES
HUNTINGTON TITANS
HURRICANE GIRLS LACROSSE
LADYTIGER LAX
LI HORNETS
LI RAID
LI EXPRESS
LI PRIDE
NEWLx
PREMIER LAX
WESTROCK GIRLS LACROSSE
YELLOW JACKETS
YORKTOWN BOMBERS

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The following programs were represented at the 2011 Blue Chip Women's Lacrosse camp. What was important was the mixture of levels, divisions, locations, and academics associated with this grouping. See the Showcases Forum for more details about the 2011 event and plans for the 2012 edition.
  • Adelphi (Two Coaches)
  • Albany
  • Bryant
  • Denver
  • Dowling
  • Fairfield
  • Johns Hopkins (Two Coaches)
  • Iona
  • Marist
  • Monmouth
  • US Naval Academy
  • Richmond
  • Rutgers
  • Sacred Heart
  • Stonybrook
  • Syracuse
  • Quinnipiac
  • UMBC
  • Yale

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If you do not personally believe that the Yellow Jackets program is your cup of tea, that's fine, but you would be hard pressed to take a non-profit program and place it competitively against the Long Island premier programs.


That's really funny that you say that considering that THAT non-profit program beat the Yellow Jackets. And THAT non-profit program has had girls get e-mails from Northwestern. And THAT non-profit program is getting just as big as Yellow Jackets and yet the price doesn't seem to rise every year. Oh yeah that's right, because THAT non-profit program is out there for the kids not for the cash.

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If you do not personally believe that the Yellow Jackets program is your cup of tea, that's fine, but you would be hard pressed to take a non-profit program and place it competitively against the Long Island premier programs.
That's really funny that you say that considering that THAT non-profit program beat the Yellow Jackets. And THAT non-profit program has had girls get e-mails from Northwestern. And THAT non-profit program is getting just as big as Yellow Jackets and yet the price doesn't seem to rise every year. Oh yeah that's right, because THAT non-profit program is out there for the kids not for the cash.
BOTC believes that it is wonderful that you have found an opportunity that has met your needs, your child's needs, and your family's needs at a price point that gives you value-for-money.

That said, we will caution you that getting e-mails from top level coaches and closing the deal are two very different experiences. Experienced club coaches and consistent showcasing opportunities can help you close that deal. When the signings ultimately take place, we will see what the final scorecard shows.

Certainly, our goal on BOTC is to see all of our player-families reach their desired level.

BOTC Industries has discussed this at some length on the College Forum.

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What Non profit are u from

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That's funny, because you can play on another non-profit organization that costs $500 and still get a great education after getting recruited to a school. Also it's pretty funny that the "Yellow Jackets" are the team to beat and the only competition out there meanwhile they act very childish on the field and they don't know how to act like an adolescent when the game isn't being baby-fed into their hands. Sure, the Yellow Jackets have a great recruiting background. Too bad the college coaches are showing up to the Yellow Jacket games less and less because the truth behind the Yellow Jackets FRANCHISE is finally being unwound. This is lacrosse. This is a way to get your kids into college. This is a way to make your kids happy. Not something for someone to make a lifestyle on and rip people off.


WELL SAID

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