The LI Outlaws are proud to announce that we have added Dennis Bonn (Cold Spring Harbor Head Coach) and Kevin Travis (Huntington High School Head Coach) to our board of directors!

Does that mean all greys are done? A lot of real good kids on that 2019 team. Outlaws could be real strong there.

Board of Directors???
Give me a break. What, the son isn't good enough to fill the role?
Travis owns the All Greys. Isn't that called competitor?

The Outlaws are growing in size and are putting together a board.

Mike Brennan is in charge of recruiting. Coach Travis will help with practices, clinics as well as coaching.

We have not dealt with the All Greys, only Kevin Travis who is not an owner of the All Greys.

We are excited to have him and Dennis Bonn on the board!

I thought Travis was a coach for 2018 Legacy Carnage last year?

Does that mean Mike B will not be coaching the 2018 AA team?

2018 AA will be Mike Brennan, Kevin Travis and Matt Lauria.

2018 AA will be Mike Brennan, Kevin Travis and Matt Lauria.
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Is Matt Lauria also coaching 2023 team?

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Yes he is.

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How can Travis coach the Outlaws when he is coaching the All Greys? He's already committed to coaching. Does this mean that the Outlaws or the All Greys get shafted??

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How can Travis coach the Outlaws when he is coaching the All Greys? He's already committed to coaching. Does this mean that the Outlaws or the All Greys get shafted??

All Greys info is gone from the tryouts page.

You guys know already. Just spill the beans on all Greys. Another example of no relevant info for parents.

Clinic and tryouts cancelled with Travis. It's on the all Greys website. It's not really a secret.

Who is coaching the 2019 AA team?

Who is coaching the 2024 teams? I heard there was going to be 2 teams this year at that age.

Supposed to Zadawalaski from Smithtown

I would like to know who's coaching the 2023 Black team and if it's the same coach as last year plus how many kids does that team normally carry.

2019 AA- Coach Scott (Center Moriches HC) and Coach Greeney (Babylon HC)
2023 AA- Pat Brennan (Director), Kevin Travis (Huntington HC), Matt Lauria (Whitman DC)
2024 AA- Brad McClam (Hopkins, Coached last year) - Will announce second coach soon.

Full list will be posted on the website very soon, still in interview process with some to make sure we have top coaches at all levels on all teams. Coaching is extremely important and we are making sure we get all staffs right, please call Pat Brennan 631-553-0771 with any questions.

Thank you Outlaws for the quick response, however this seems to address the select teams only.

How many tournaments did 2018 Black win during the 2015 summer season in an A division? Is the team going to have the expanded roster? With Smithtown East and West announcing they will be having a summer season next summer will you be able accommodating for the fact that many of these players will not be at 4 tournaments.

Further supporting my sentiment that the B teams are just a money grab. Had they any real interest or plan for their B team, it wouldn't have slipped their mind.

They look for coaches who can bring the most players. If they bring a lot they make them a director. They are not the only ones . Name up top is what we heard and he is good coach but don't see him coaching b squad especially if brings some Smithtown kids

Well then call

No expanded Roster. If your kids can't play in the tournaments, why would you have him try out? Maybe play with HS coach and hope the best.

So how are they going to field a team if many players who might play for them are from Smithtown East and West. It's a simple question regarding logistics. Even with the expanded roster the team had a tough time getting enough players to tournaments this past summer.

I am assuming you have some experience with this team. It would be nice to get some info before forking over $2400. Do you know if the same coach is coaching the team again this year?

The coaching information can be found on their site.

I think this question needs to brought to the attention of the parents and players that do agree to play in certain tournaments but dont show up leaving the team shorthanded. They would go play for their High School team and not show to the travel team tournaments. This was a regular occurrence for a good amount of the tournaments last season. This is an undeniable truth and can not be denied. It was unfair to those who did show up and should be considered when tryouts are being had. What is the commitment of the player/parent. When you don't show it hurts everyone who does show up. Having only 14 to 15 kids at a tournament you traveled 4 hour to get to sucks.

We are going to be getting out final coaching staffs for teams early next week. Any individual questions right now, please call Pat Brennan at 631-553-0771.

Thanks

So this year the outlaws have three teams, select, black and silver. So does that mean AA A and B?

are they are fielding 2 teams. i think their original plan was having 3 but that seems to have changed in accordance with what i see on their site. outlaws, can you confirm/deny?

I could not agree more!!!!

Are you guys saying that half of the 2023 team did not show up to games last year? And it could be worse this year since Smithtown will have two 2023 teams and those players will be required to play for Smithtown?

It happened all the time with the 2018 Black team

No Smithtown kids on outlaws 2023 last year.

Have any invites gone out? Another tryout this weekend. Are teams set and just collecting $?

Some invites have gone out. There are still spots available on ALL teams.

2017, 2018 have first tryouts this weekend.

2019-2026 all have second round this weekend. It is only necessary make 1 tryout of the 3.

communication has been very good as to whether or not you made a team, and the fact that there are still spots open on teams. if you are registered you would know that

The LI Outlaws would like to welcome Head Coaches Bobby Moltisanti Jr. (Smithtown West) and Jay Lambert (Smithtown East) to the LI Outlaws Staff and Board of Directors.

They will both coach teams and help with player development through positional clinics, training and K-2 clinic coming Summer 2016!

Wow, they are really picking up some top coaches!

LI Outlaws Board

Dennis Bonn (Cold Spring Harbor Head Coach)
Kevin Travis (Huntington Head Coach)
John Greeney (Babylon Head Coach)
Bobby Moltisanti Jr. (Smithtown West Head Coach)
Jay Lambert (Smithtown East Head Coach)
Michael Brennan (Walt Whitman Assitant Coach)
Brad McClam (Northport Youth)

We have put together this board to not only coach LI Outlaws teams, but be involved in training and positional clinics to ensure maximum player development and lacrosse IQ development. This is a great group of lacrosse experts, trainers coaches and people- that will help all LI Outlaws take their games and teams to the next level.

Who will be coaching the 2019 A and B teams?

With those guys coming in I could see a huge change at that 2019 level. Bet you they are cleaning house and that team will be filled with smithtown and all grey kids.

By the way would be a real good team!!

Coaching Staff is set.

2017 Select
Pat Gorman
John Rowan

2017 Black
Rob Cornetta
Patrick Brennan

2018 Select
Mike Brennan
Kevin Travis

2018 Black
Paul McDermott
Billy Richardson

2019 Select
Kevin Scott
John Greaney

2019 Black
Fred Harris
Dan Sparvey

2019 Silver
Brennan Bailey
Pat Brennan

2020 Select
Jay Lambert
Bobby Moltisanti Jr.

2020 Black
Rob Fisher
Matthew Gierl

2021 Select
Kevin Dalland
Brian Henselder

2021 Black
Rob Sullivan
Dennis Bonn

2022 Select
Charlie Parr
Steve McMahan

2022 Black
Eric Kast
John Foley

2023 Select
Kevin Travis
Matt Lauria

2023 Black
Bobby Rooney
Pat Brennan

2024 Select
Brad McClam
Mark Rotello

2024 Black
Joseph Rotolo
Jim Coromilas

2025 Black
Mike Brennan
Tony Zawadzki


Almost all coaching Bio's are loaded on to www.lioutlawslax.com . The rest will be on in the next day. Any questions, please call Pat Brennan at 631-553-0771.

Each team will be supplemented with additional coaching as the season goes on, plus with college kids and graduates in the summer.

The Board will also be working with ALL ages in clinics/camps and training geared towards internal player development.

Board
Dennis Bonn (Cold Spring Harbor HC)
John Greaney (Babylon HC)
Kevin Travis (Huntington HC)
Bobby Moltisanti Jr. (Smithtown West HC)
Jay Lambert (Smithtown East HC)
Mike Brennan (Walt Whitman AC)
Brad McClam (Northport Youth)

Interesting that both Smithtown coaches are doing Outlaws 2020 age group. If your from Melville, West Islip or Northport you might have a hard time getting on that squad.

Just kidding I'm sure the coaches are stand up guys.

Pat Brennan coaching three teams is an awesome feat as well.

Love the name changes from Black and Silver to Select and Black. But as they say, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, you can call it a swan but it is still a duck. Best of luck to those kids on the Silver, oops I mean Black, teams this year!

If your son was on the Black team, they would be better than select for sure. Maybe next year.

Why is that? I honestly don't know anything about the team.

They say the select teams are AA. Really ? Then why do they duck the competition and play B tournaments and enter in B brackets ?

You have no clue . Go away

This is definitely not true. Select play in competitive tourn. Against high level competition. With that said, if your kid doesn't make select, run for the hills. Like most clubs, the B team experience is inferior to the A team and no matter what the director says or who he brings in it won't change. It's the nature of the beast. Club A teams are worth the $, but if your on B your just padding pockets.

No idea. Really ask the 2018 Black which is now AA how many tournaments the actually did well in when they were not in the B or C bracket. They did well at Hofstra Blue and Gold in the C division of the 2018 Bracket beating up on crap teams.
Come on entering in good tournaments and barley winning a game is not a good thing.

They're definitely not AA. That's a silly new designation, to lift all the teams up, so nobody has to play on C!

That is an understatement. Sure have plenty to say about something you know nothing about.

Thats idiotic. One of the Outlaws B teams is coached by a Varsity coach with two state Championships and numerous County championships. They practice all year long. You just dont know what your talking about

This reply is to the upper portion of this post. He was supposed to be the coach of black but was moved to silver. Black would have been better off with him as a coach. He's a real coach. As for Black 2018 there were more practices cancelled than actually had during the season this past summer. Why do you think so many players from last years team have decided not to even tryout. Because the coaching was so good on Black. Lol

No clue?? They won a bunch of NO NAME tournaments last year avoiding the best competition on Long Island. See What happened when they played real competition......THEY LOST!!!

Yea last year the Silver barely won a game all season long! I would never subject my kid to that! The B team on Outlaws is a money grab!

Not true. Legacy 2019 B team has college head coach who won a national championship and multiple coach of the year awards.

Actually they typically won 2 games for every one they lost. If getting superb coaching and literally 10 times the amount of practices promised and all the kids learning a tremendous amount and all getting better is a rip off, so be it. I will leave you with this. Not every town is a Smithtown, WM or Garden City. There are numerous varsity coaches out there super thankful for solid B teams that help make kids who better who while not being the stars on their HS teams will get playing time, a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. By the way, that SIlver team beat the Jesters A team. SO you have Igloo, 91, WOlverines, Outlaws Black, TLI Icon, Legact and a few others I missed . Other then teh 200 odd kids that make up those teams, do the other thousand kids who love lax get to play ? Not everybody is out there trying to get a college free ride, but if you are I would suggest joining the Mathletes team over any of the A teams

What grade level?

Most of the kids not trying out are kids that wouldn't have made the team this year, just be honest. After the top 10 kids, major drop off in talent. At least be honest with yourself.

Your a disgruntled moron. There were no a,b, or c brackets in that tournament. One bracket for all teams in the age group. But I guess it makes for a good story for you to support your agenda. Go play for your school team, I'm sure your son has a tremendous amount of interest at the next level.

That's commical. Can't you see that those who left did so because the team was horribly run. Guess the kid from Hopkins and one of the players claimed as one of 2 D1 potential players on the team were not good enough. Oh and the middy who went to Terps. The story will always be they were not good enough but the personal emails texts and phone calls asking them to come back saying things will be different. Ask any parent about the nonexistent practices all the cancelation of practice, barely enough kids at tournaments, no offensive sets and so on and so on. There was plenty of talent on the team. Just no coaching.

Or the kids coming down from black to play on silver after they won 2 games.

It was called the C Division where the caliber of team that played was horrible. There was also a JV A and JV B this is where most 2018 teams played even 2019 teams played. I guess I have no idea about the caliber of teams that were in your division like 91 Stampede and 91 White they are definitely AA teams LOL.

That's right, C division dummy, not C bracket. Three divisions, one group not broken up by talent level. Yes they blew out every lower level team and went undefeated with 15 kids, not bad. No one said they were AA last year. Except you. What team does ur superstar play for? If your happy where ur kid is, why do you care so much? I'll tell you who doesn't care, the head coaches of the 4 schools interested in my son, that's who. Doesn't that just burn you? HA HA HA good luck. Why not come down to tryouts on Sunday and give our kids a real schooling with ur superstar? You know you won't, and you know why...

First things first. No one and no one is saying anything about the kids. I have said it it previous post the team was talented but poorly coached. There were plenty of good players on that team just when the coaches start off the season saying there are only 2 D1 players and 2 others get D1 commits before them is funny. Shows you their knowledge. There were plenty of talented players that could have showed better if the team was better run. Come on if your kid played on the team were you happy with the fact that every tournament the team was shorthanded. I don't care how good a kid is if he barely steps off the field he fatigues and skill level declines. The D poles played their tales off but how much time can you stay on the field when only 3 or 4 poles show up to a tournament in 90 degree heat. I am happy your kid is getting looks. I am just pointing out how mismanagement of this team hurt the overall recruiting possibilities of all the players. I would put this teams physical talent level against many teams with some good coaching they could have given a lot of good teams a run. Good luck to your kid and all the kids staying. Wish them all luck at tryouts. Just hope the team is better run than last year.

As I read the back and forth of happy and unhappy posters regarding the Outlaws all I can say is for whatever the reason everyone has a different experience on the same team. It seems there are some who were unhappy and they have the right to post their opinion as do those who were happy. I know many of the parents and players on the team and they were all good people and good kids. Whatever the reasons some will leave and some will stay. Just remember its a service industry and people will always post good and bad things for whatever the reason. There are teams for everyone and finding the right fit is up to the consumer. We at Back of the Cage do our best to be unbiased and allow for information to be posted. The moderators and that includes myself review every post and make sure its not an attack on a kid or an individual. So please lets keep it informative and not attack anyone. We wont let it happen!!!

Lol, ok here it is plain and simple. A 2018 going into 10th grade is considered JV. So if there is a JV A and B what division should they have been playing in. I think either of the JV divisions. There was also a C Division which was made up of really bad teams. So if I am understanding this correctly the team could have played in JV A B and or the C Division. If I rank them I would say the C Division is the lower of the divisions they were able to play in. So yes they dominated in the C Division of the available divisions they could have played in. It's listed in tourney machine for those who are curious. Hofstra Blue and Gold tournament.

2018 C division meant Championship division. There was no 2018 A or B.

Coaching in beginning was not great, then their was a coaching change and the kids started to play really well. Cutting the expanded roster is going to do wonders for this team with Travis and MB coaching. Good luck at tryouts!

Registration is now closed on www.lioutlawslax.com

All tryout information still online, walk ups are welcome!!

We will see you all tomorrow.

-Outlaws

Wow. One team out of how many age groups had a decent B team experience. That's the exception not the rule and that's great for those parents and players. I have three kids who have all played club. Sometimes A, sometimes B. 2 have done both during their lacrosse lives. None have ever had a B experience that came close to what the A teams have been. If you do find a club and a coach on a B team that gives you that great experience, stick with them, because they're in it for the right reasons.

No one is getting a free ride to college through lacrosse. If someone is feeding you information to the contrary you need to speak to some athletes. There are 12 scholarships split amongst the whole team. The lax full ride is a mythical beast.

You're 100% correct! It's actually even worse because the 12.5 scholarships for the entire team are ONLY if the team is FULLY funded which a large amount of teams are not.

Unless you can rush the passer

How about B level team where there is no A team? Thinking Millon, etc. is that a better route than Outlaws B?

Yes because they can't bring down A players when they don't think you can win the game in your own.

Had my son out for his first tryout for the 2024 Outlaws yesterday after all the coaching and staff moves they made. Some real talent showed up. These are going to be great teams.

you figured all that out in one tryout?

First tryout for the Outlaws slappy.

Will those Put on Black after first try out get an email that they stayed on black after second tryout or will you only get an email if you move up to select?

When are they sending emails?

why are you asking here? scary how dumb people can be. you don't have coach number or email ?

The parent is asking because the Outlaws respond to messages directly here. If you don't have anything to say why say anything at all. It's amazing how big and bad you guys are behind a computer keyboard.

No I don't. I do know they respond to postings. But thank you for taking time out of your day to respond to my question with a useless drip of words. You must be very proud of yourself right now. Next time if you know the answer, leave it. If not, happily go on your way. Cheers!

We are working very hard to have the e-mails sent out as soon as possible. They will be out early in the week.

There were over 600 kids who tried out for teams this weekend, we need to be thorough and make sure we get all correct.

There is still 1 more round of tryouts in september for any new kids, and kids trying to make a higher level team.

Any questions for 2026-2020 call Pat Brennan 631-553-0771- any questions for 2019-2017 call Mike at 631-487-6338

I thought invites already went out after first tryout and the second tryout was to fill any positions left? I know people already got invites!

Last year we got emails saying our child was selected to be on the other team. I would assume that you will get same email this year, they are very thorough.

Invites went out after first tryout to fill 8-12 spots per team, leaving a lot of openings. The second tryout has a lot of new kids fighting for spots on all teams- and gives kids from first tryout a chance to make a higher team. Then another round of e-mails goes out starting to fill some spots.

We will have a third tryout (September) to fill all remaining spots on all teams- and to give everyone a 2nd and 3rd chance to make a higher team if desired.

Have the 2018 emails gone out yet?

They get this part of the club correct, just be a little patient it is Monday.

Do the outlaws offer a sibling discount ?

Yes, there is a sibling discount of 20%.

Aren't we all brothers.. Lol

anyone hear about outlaws results from second tryout? anyone get a call/email?

I would say Tuesday or Wednesday!

What fall tourneys will they be at this year? Is this info on the site?

Did any of the 2018 emails go out today?

No emails went out yet. I spoke to PB

When will emails go out from this sat tryouts?

E-mails will go out ASAP. End of day tomorrow the latest.

Will an email go out whether you are place on select, black or no team at all?

Brought my son to the try-outs this year for the fifth grade team because I thought one of the coaches that coached last year would be coaching. He was the only one that was at everything and provided some stability to an otherwise disorganized year. Why is he not back? Not happy!

Coaches were listed prior to tryouts so you knew who the coach was gonna be before you tried out??

If you were on the team last year, you knew what coaches where coming back. You may not be happy that the coach you liked didn't come back but There was no disorganization. Since you didn't register to play on outlaws this year on either black or select, you will have a chance to get you life reorganized.

In regards to 2021 age group.

Thanks to all that have been to our tryouts. We have over 100 kids signed up for the 2021 age group. The talent has been amazing. E Mails are currently going out. Your child will be assigned to one of our two teams or asked to come back. We have had a number of parents ask if we would consider a third team.

We have decided to go ahead with a third team, but we will do it a little different than the Select and Black. It will be a B team, and designed to be very developmental. Here's how it will run.

Fall: 6 Training sessions- Spring: 6 Training Sessions
Summer: 10 Practices along with 4 Tournaments
Coaches in Fall and spring will be High school coaches. Summer will be TBA.
Cost $1800
With all this talent, we expect to get these kids to the next level.

All are still invited to our 3rd try out, as we still have some spots available on Select/Black.

Thanks
LI Outlaws

Did any 2018 emails go out yet?

any update?

yes emails went out. I'm surprised you have not recieved it yet

Didn't get one

Anyone get an email for 2023 ? Was told monday pm or Tuesday -

I assume you registered with the green piece of paper they gave out at tryout?

Any 2018 go out?

Yes, received an email this afternoon for 2023

Have all the emails been sent out ?

What about if you went to second tryout to move up to select. Have they gone out.

Check spam

Nothing in spam , they should know who should be on 2018 select & black , borderline player they want another look at , should be asked to come back for the second tryout , I would imagine .

did that. Tried calling and get voicemail.

Did anyone else notice the change in the coaching line up for the 5th 2023? Originally Travis and another coach were coaching Select and Matt Lauria & Bobby Rooney were coaching Black. Why was ML moved? I registered my kid with the knowledge that ML would be the head coach of Black NOT Rooney. The Black team now has Rooney, & Pat Brennan. There is very little lax info in Rooney's bio, including the year he was in college, that makes me nervous as I think of the older out of touch dad coach (not worth $2,400.00). Pat Brennan bio is not even listed, what are his credentials? The chatter about PB is that he is listed in name only and not be present with coaching the B team. Does anyone know any info?

Rooney coached the 2020's for years and is a great coach. You will get more practices and more tourneys with him IF the parents are onboard and kids are available.

Never saw ML as head coach black. He was always listed as coach of select. Brennan clearly stated that he was the coach of the black at tryouts.

Great coaches normally stay with the same teams year after year. Generally, teams with coaching changes had some sort of problem. I am intentionally speaking very generically. You can infer whatever you wish.

By the way of you comment of out of touch dad Coach Rooney doesn't kids.... He coached my son on 2020 and my son loved being on the team.... He gets them prepared for every game to give them the true chance to win. I personally was happy with him as well as glad that he is also still part of coaching staff with 2020 select...

All I can say is that you need to relax. I am an Outlaw parent and what I can tell you is PB will put the right coaches in the right places. The organization puts out a good product year after year and that's why you came. You didn't come because of a specific coach.

Just let everyone do their job and enjoy your experience being an outlaw and don't worry who is coaching and who isn't.

If you look at coaching staffs of the select teams they are headlined by top notch Varsity coaches. Especially though the recruiting ages

Totally agree from what I saw last season. PB needed to step down to B team.

Another year of bait and switch. It's getting old PB.

I also saw Lauria listed with black just a few weeks ago!

Matt Lauria was always coaching the 2023 Select as the defensive coach. Kevin Travis will be coaching the offense. Pat Brennan has coached the top team in the past and will help out.

Pat Brennan and Bobby Rooney will coach the Black team- just like it was originally released.

I am an out laws parent who's on the fence about returning. Speaking from experience if Pat Brennan says he is going to be coaching the B...oooops Black team you can bet that he will not be there for majority of the season. Why would Select need 3 HS coaches? Black gets only Rooney?! Just made up my mind!

On page 4 of this thread is the release by outlaws with who is coaching. Give it up already. It was released once and once only.

He's right. Lauria was listed originally as coaching Black 2023

The confusion lies in any name change. Coach Lauria was always coaching the top team (Black last year, Select this year).

Select has 2 HS coaches not 3 as mentioned by poster above. Second team (Black) coaches are Pat Brennan and Bobby Rooney.

All coaches listed on website as well for all ages.

Whew thank god your not coming back - parents like you are what ruin the "team" please dont come back - your son is always welcome.

Will the Outlaws "Black" (Formally Silver) teams be playing in A or B divisions? Thanks.

Each team will be scheduled based on their skill level. Would be unfair to blanket all teams in an organization with the same name under the same division every tournament. Our goal is to have all teams playing at the highest level possible.

Money hungry organizations, self aggrandizing coaches with small skills and large agendas is what ruins teams!

Put the Kool-Aid down dude! People DO go to organizations for specific coaches as much as they avoid organizations due to specific coaches. I do worry! Don't need to waste 2,400.

You are joking right? Having the right coaches is extremely important. Having a coach that actually has practices and shows up to tournaments is of the utmost importance. Organizations are very quick to bait and switch. You sign on and agree to play for them based on one what you are told and then things are different after the first practice. That's deceptive and it happens all the time.

You are absolutely correct!! Coaching is everything. A single coach can either make or break a team, especially one that is arrogant and notorious for being a no show. But hey, if some random, anonymous, stranger says to trust in PB, well than lets all be indoctrinated!

Why is this still left unanswered?

Ask the 2018 Black now called select how the coaching was this past summer. It was nonexistent. Rarely a practice, and no set plays. A complete waste of $2400. Team had talent yet didn't do well because of the poor coaching. Kids didnt go to practice because practices stunk. They also lost so much interest that they didn't show to tournaments. This coaching staff was handpicked by PB. lol

You had same problem with the team called 2018 silver now will be called black. 10-13 kids showing up to practice, 15-17 to tournaments. Coaches didn't care!!!! 15 min before game starts kids still sitting around not warming up!!

This was answered on previous pages. All coaching staffs have been posted and can be found on www.lioutlawslax.com as well.

2023 Select- Kevin Travis and Matt Lauria
2023 Black- Pat Brennan and Bobby Rooney

At this age the team normally carries 22. Every team is slightly different.

Its all about coaching. I couldn't agree more. There are coaches and there are coaches. Some coaches, are so overcommitted, they can't be there, or they just go through the motions because they dont wish to be there. Then some coaches go the exra mile, we all know who they are. I don't care if the coach was all american at syracuse or duke, if he has no energy or desire to be there , I dont want him. I don't want the 20 or whatever number the contract says of practices. I want more. The point is I want a coach who wants more. When you have a coach like that, they are not easy to find, but when you do, kids never miss practice or tournaments. Kids want to be there. The energy and effort by a coach like that is what makes a team, a successful team. In my opinion. My son, who is 12 expierienced both types of people. There is no comparison.

Why do people continue to come back to this organization? There are so many others to choose from.

There has been a bit of a exodus by a few players they considered their best at key positions. Don't believe what they will reply with that these players were not good. They were constantly mentioned as the best players on the team. They also went on to very good teams.There were going to be more players leaving to go play with their high school team over the summer but their high school coaches are now directors and they are forced to come back. So because of this they think they were retaining players but they really wanted to leave.

Behavior issues of coaches really bad

White Trash

I love the fact that my son plays for the Outlaws! I've never seen a travel club stir up so many emotions in so many people. This has to be the place to be. Sorry suckers their are just so many spots, better luck next time.

Anyone who thinks their kid has a chance at making their select teams or "A" teams should think again. Those spots are locked up by previous players, kids who were hand picked prior to try outs or kids who play for the high school coaches who are now board members. Yes there may be a couple of exceptions, but the directors know who most of the kids are that they want before try outs start.

Or the place people had the most issues. Buyers beware!!!!!

The only emotion being stirred up here is nausea!

If you want to make the A team you better be heads and shoulders above their current players. Usually 3 to 5 new kids get offers for the A team, most decline. The best way to make the A team is to be the best player on the B team for a year

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If calls went out and all the teams are set why are they advertising more tryouts this weekend?

They still need 2018 players

Money!!!!

Really? I saw them this summer they looked pretty
Good what happened?

They looked average last year and lost few of best players.

There are still positions left . Good luck to the boys who are trying to make the top teams.

where did those players go. Was it HD related. Did they go where more of their HD buddies went

Can you please just worry about your son's team? Which team is that anyway? (he won't say) For the record, lost one top player and one was never there anyway. Both made choices they felt worked best for them. Kept all of their other top guys and will add much needed depth. Many new players may be some of the best on the new team. Overall, team will be much stronger top to bottom. If you're that interested, your son can still try out in second round this weekend. They are giving everyone a chance to compete for a spot. Or call MB and set up a scrimmage in the late fall with your son's team. It's about recruiting now, many players on this new team have multiple D1 schools interested in them. The club is doing an outstanding job supporting that process. Many kids will make commitments this year on this team. The OL 2017 team, 15+ commits and more pending. 2016 team, 26 commits. Good luck to your son. Please, move on already and stop with bashing of these kids.

No one ever said anything about the kids. It's the organization that has come under fire. The lack of a good coach, lack of practices, it was the lack of of anything that was amazing. It was the complete lack of what was promised that is coming under fire. The director said that the team had 2 to 3 possible players that can play D1 ball. Team had a lot more than that. It was very talented. The team was coached and managed poorly losing games they should never have lost to teams with inferior talent. They never were given a chance to show how talented they really were. It became a [lacrosse] show. If there was a practice 12 players showed, at tournaments 14 kids showed. Kids got disgusted with it, as did parents driving 4 to 5 hours in traffic to have barely enough kids to field a team. It all starts at the top. Remember this was a team of over 30. Many intended to leave but due to their high school coaches being made directors they are forced to stay. These are facts. As an A team they were coached and treated like a C team.

It seems the same person keeps writing the same things. Just to clarify there was an expanded roster of 34 kids last year and 30 signed up for tryouts, not 1 was forced to by any high school coach. Out of the 4 that did not I had personal conversations with 3 of them.

We cut the expanded roster so we can have 1 cohesive team. One thing you wrote is true, since we had an expanded roster parents thought it was OK to not show up to tpurnaments, what they did not realize was there was only 20-22 registered for each tournament. With around 100 at tryouts over 3 weeks, we are going to put together teams for the 2018 level that are much improved over last season, with kids that are committed to playing lacrosse at the highest level, getting high level training and getting recruited.

There are spots open on all teams for this weekends tryouts.

LI Outlaws

Are the team's finally settled or will there be more changes and waiting?

Let the boys get on with a little lax

How many were pushed by volunteer assistant coaches

Things were settled weeks ago. If your waiting your getting strung along. No team waits until the third tryout to make roster. It's to fill the unexpected 1-2 spot that they thought were filled.

When will we find out the results of this weekends tryouts?

Many organizations try to leave a roster spot or two open in case somebody shows up out of nowhere and blows them away

It's still 1-2 spots and to your point only if the "blow them away". So you agree with my point, but you don't want to admit it.

Does anyone know if it's like the last time. If you were already on a team and did not move up you, you were not emailed or will everyone from the last tryout get an email?

The process is so clear isn't.

How soon do we hear from coaches about practices, tourneys, uniforms, helmets, etc.?

Wow already.....

I did not ask the question but I can understand where the person is coming from. They did not wait to ask for money after the first tryout how long ago, plus if you're new to travel lax you may want to know when they start things up.

Thanks. Yes I'm new to travel lax. I was more curious because no club offers any info regarding anything that I asked. We have commitments for three kids to other sports as well. It would be nice to get dates at least so I can start to make the necessary arrangements.
I am finding out that they're a lot of idiots who live vicariously through their kids in club lax. Hopefully, it's just limited to this board. The parents of the town team that my son plays on all get along great!

Got an email today
My sons team has first practice this saturday

LI Outlaws will be hosting private tryouts for the following ages/positions starting this weekend. Please call Pat Brennan at 631-553-0771 to set up. This list will be updated frequently to reflect current needs.

2025/2026 Black - 2/3 Midfield 2 Defense 
2024 Select - 1 Midfield 1 Defense
2023 Black - 2/3 Midfield 1 Defense 1 Goalie
2022 Black/Select - 2 Defense
2020 Black - 1 Defense 2 Midfield

The previous poster is right. If your kid is a select player you should be fine, but if he's not, don't expect the director or "recruiting coordinator" to go out of their way to offer any guidance or help. The kids who are committed could have played anywhere and been noticed. Not because they play for the outlaws, but because they're good. If you're not on select or the top team in the age group you will most likely not get what they promise you.

Come on really? So all the other kids that committed on other LI teams, committed because of the team they're on? You can't be serious? What guidance and help are you looking for? If your son gets noticed, you'll get guidance, I now this for a fact. They can't get the looks for your son, he needs to produce them. Also, if your son wasn't good enough to make the top team at OL or somewhere else, do you really think many D1 schools will be interested in him? Be a little realistic. Your son's time will come, most likely between the summer of 11th and 12th grade. Until then, have him focus on playing hard and growing as a player. Have him play in some individual showcases. If Syracuse, Cornell and Brown come calling I a sure you the organization will represent your son well. If they don't, then you know where your son stands... Be honest with yourself and your son! Don't bash the club and it's players, it's working well for this parent and his player. Move on already.

I'm pretty realistic. He has gotten looks from d1 schools and is currently talking to several of them. The Outlaws have had nothing to do with it. It has all been through Individual showcases and prospect days. My point is, they make promises they don't keep. I never expected them to go out and sell my son to coaches, but if I needed input, feedback or a request to play at a showcase I expected to get it for my 2400, or at least a response to an email or call. My son may be lucky enough to play D1 or wait and play D2 or 3. I don't really care as long as he's happy and gets a good education. As far as The Outlaws go, don't represent yourselves to be something your not. The kids get themselves recruited. You guys just answer the phone and pass on messages like a secretary.

Heard 2019 Silver Team was cancelled. Any further information?

Have nothing to do with Organization agree with your statements. A lot of people think all you have to do is pay and nothing else. Concerning the price don't think my Kid would be playing travel now at 2,400.00 just to join a team. Minus Hotels and other travel expenses. Gald I'm out of it.
Fyi have kids playing D1,DII & DIII you seem to have the right attitude with where they wind up unlike most parents.

Ok great, do it yourself. Sounds like you don't need an organization. It's interesting how your experience with the support on recruiting can be almost 180 degrees different from what me and my son have experienced. We have, and continue to receive excellent support. Ask yourself? If your son had legit interest, why would they not help you? Of course they would. Yet we are to believe that they didn't want to help your kid. If they are as bad as you say they are, they would stop at nothing just to get ur son a commitment, so they could brag about how they did it... Right? Wake up, a long list of commits generates interest. Which gets more kids to sign up, which is what you say they're all about. See how silly you sound?

2021 silver team canceled too... I guess not enough interest after the way the tryouts went?

Your post is a little scattered. First of all, I never said they made a conscious effort not to help me. What they did do was to neglect my requests for the help and support they promised before they took my money. If they had been responsive, I would have used them as the contact for any possible interest my son may have gotten from showcases, tournaments or prospect days. Because We got no response to our requests, We began to use his HS coach which is why they are not involved. It's not because he doesn't have "legit interest". They have just been left out of the process. Second, Yes, we did start doing it on our own, but only after we realized the organization we chose to play for was going to be no help. Believe me, I would have welcomed any input or help from them. That's why we play for these clubs at the recruiting age. If I sound silly to you, then I guess the majority of the parents on my sons team are silly also because we all had similar experiences. It's great that you and your son are having a better experience, but believe me you're the exception not the rule. PB and MB. Just apologize to all the people you made empty promises to and start treating everyone like they're on one of your select teams. The very least they deserve is a call back or response to an email.

We had over 250 kids tryout combined for the 2021 and 2019 age brackets. We extended an option for a 3rd team invite to many, but did not get enough solid acceptances. We could have thrown kids together that were cut, collected the $ and let the team run as Outlaws Silver.

This is not how the Outlaws work. We will not put out a team that we feel is a C team. Every team needs to be able to compete and we did not think the 2019 and 2021 Silver would compete at a high enough level with acceptances we were and weren't getting. Even though we see it on here all the time, it is not all about the money- it is about a positive experience.

Every kid that was given a spot and accepted on these teams have been called and we are helping all find a new spot. Whether it be internally or externally we will take care of all the kids.

On a side note, please do not believe everything anonymous posters write on these forums. If you have a real question- call us, or email us. Anyone from competitors to parents that' we're disgruntled their kid wasn't put on a certain team can post on here and seem to try to bash and lie. We are all about being transparent so call or email and we will answer.

Within the recruiting process it is very important to be in an organization that is established, in the right tournaments and http right connections. It is important to have a director that will be the middle man between college coach and HS student and his parents. It is important to have coaches and directors who will go out of their way to vouch for their student athletes. With all that being said it is also of vital importance for the athlete to send emails, complete questionnaires, attend certain prospect days and stay pro active in the process. Getting recruited and committed is a different path for every kid and family, all have different needs and goals, but in general it should be a group effort to get all options on the table.

Scattered? I think not. You're claiming your son got all this interest and they didn't respond to you? So you didn't go down to one of the practices and speak with either of them? You know which teams they coached, you easily could have spoken up for yourself. Instead you're on here months after the season ended saying you never heard back? Come on, the story is wearing a little thin. Perhaps if you just went and spoke to them it may have worked out better for you. It sounds to me like you might be a bit delusional. In any case, you and your son are in a better place now. Good luck to your son.

Wow. You're really excited for a guy who's kid is doing well. Maybe you have more invested in this than your indicating. You also have trouble following along. My son got interest after we wrote off the outlaws. At that point For me to put trust into people who can't answer a few emails or return phone calls would have been foolish. Also, Why should I drive from my town to track down the director when he had every opportunity to return numerous phone calls and emails. His message was loud and clear. Not once did either of the Directors show up at any of our practices or tournaments. If they had I would have gladly had the discussion. They had an opportunity to produce the product they advertised. They also had the opportunity to speak with me numerous times throughout the year and didn't. It works both ways. So yes, I'm on here now talking about my experience because people have a right to know both sides of the story. People work hard for their money. They should get what they pay for. If you can't support all of your players and teams equally then only field select AA teams. But we all know why that won't happen. Delusional or not it's the truth. Good luck to your son as well.

This is a very funny reply by the Outlaws. You duped someone and that person posts how un happy they were and your rebuttal is don't listen to the unhappy person and call us for the truth. LOL!!! That is hysterical.

Last year, team had barely any practices, team had no set plays, barely enough players at tournaments, never had same coaches at the tournaments, sometimes even only 1 coach at all the recruiting tournaments and you don't expect parents to be pissed. This is a service industry and you didn't provide the services you said you would. Now all of the sudden things are going to change. You make it seem you guys are approachable yet you are the farthest thing from it after you have cashed the checks and there are no other options but stick through a crap season.

Excited? No. Invested? No. Just a parent. Move on already.

You're speaking the truth. Well said.

250 kids for grades? I was at tryouts, I guess there were 180 kids for the 2019 team.
The directors are invisible at tournaments. Your lucky if you get a hello response from PB if you are so lucky to see him before he scurries off before you can engage in a convo,

So are you guys still looking for players???

Saw your looking for players in the 2018 age group. What teams? Select or Black.

The LI Outlaws will be conducting open tryouts over the next weekends. Please contact Pat Brennan at 631-553-0771 or email him at plustixx@yahoo.com to set up your tryout.

3rd Grade- 2 Offense 2 Defense
5th Grade- 2 Mids 2 Defense 1 Goalie
6th Grade- 1 Defense
8th Grade- 2 Mids 1 Defense
10th Grade- 2 Mids 1 Defense 1 Goalie
11th Grade- 1 Attack 2 Mids 1 Defense

L.I. Outlaws

For which teams? the Select or Black?

Look at post before. Contact the organization and find out

Is it for Igloo??

Which really means black or silver! Love how the programs are now calling A teams select, so they can call the B teams A. The parents are such suckers for the marketing!

The Outlaws are so transparent it's so very Black and Silver, I mean Black and White.

Black is the new Silver! Just call it whatever the parents like to hear, and they'll come running! Who cares about the coaching, how he fits in on the team, if he's playing a lot and contributing, if he's building confidence, if he's getting better, and last but not least - if he's even having fun. Just push like [lacrosse] to get him on a team that's called "A" (which is now "select" or "AA"), so I can feel good about myself..then watch some of the "B" kids develop, and pass him by in HS..then [lacrosse] to other parents and to the AD about the coach..IF he doesn't quit by then..

When typically will the fall tournament schedule come out so we can block the weekend(s)? Or will it be like practice, an email will be sent two days before we are having practice and need to scramble to change plans.

PB will get you the time and day of practice at least an hour before. Just leave your calendar open.

Are you really a parent? Sad. What a [lacrosse]? Your kid must be do embarrassed of you.

BOTC should add a "LIKE" button.

Guess your son is on the renamed "A" (Silver) team...hope you're proud you can say he's an A player now! Another sucker!

Are you that stupid to think that parents didn't realize that there was an AA Select team and an A Black team before they dropped over 2k? What team does your son play for? You don't have the balls to say, I bet. Thanks for letting everyone know what an [lacrosse] you are. Hear you on the sidelines. Loser

Teams practicing - positional clinics this weekend for all and i think all teams have got fall schedule -

LOL! Good idea! and a "DISLIKE" button

IT'S A GREAT DAY TO BE AN OUTLAW!!!!

Not doing the Silver or Black team again. We did it last year for the 2022 team and it was just not worth the aggravation. Its a shame they charge that much for a B team experience

When do we get our skull and cross bone bumper stickers??? Common that is really the only reason we are all here.

So your answer basically told me nothing past this weekend. "I think" teams got fall schedule. Either you did or didn't. Thanks for your help.

I thought there were so many kids at these try outs????
That's all they bragged about for weeks!!!

I am wondering if there it's just Outlaws time or did they wrong a whole lot of people this year. Usually you see a lot of 91 comments, a lot of Li Express, even Legacy, outside of what Igloo is doing and which coach is leaving where, I've seem sonly comments are about the Outlaws. I don't have a dog in the fight but just wondering why have they generated so much interest and comments?

Ask PB to reflect. He's the only one who doesn't know why he created this strife himself.

They are the only team thread. All team threads were taken down. Outlaws posted something, so now they are the only individual program with an active thread. Not sure if this is good or bad for them

It's an "outlaws news" subject forum genius.

Yeah ask PB he will definitely tell you what you want to hear. LOL

Thanks that makes a lot of sense. I was thinking they screwed a lot of people so angry customers are just voicing their opinion.

I think the 2019 Outlaws team right now is considered the best on Long Island . Just saying

I think you're delusional. Have them play 91 orange, Express and even throw in the white team and see how they do.

That's funny! Do us a favor and don't "just say"...

Don't feed this pot stirrer. For 2019, Not sure if it is about being the best or just playing your best. We all just want good games. Good luck to all the 2019's. As for the pot stirrer, these next few years go by fast if you blink or focus on others rather than your son you may miss out on a lot.

And it changes from day to day. The guy does what is in his best interest, period.

No pot stirring here. The power teams got better and all the other teams either got worse or stayed the same. It will be the same crap as last year on all grade levels!

Ok enlighten us .... Who are the power teams??

Hit the road you horses rump,go back to stooge lacrosse.

For 2022 United and Smash got way better, Igloo got better, Express got better and Outlaws will probably be in the lower end on those teams. Them Legacy and Empire and the rest of the pack.

Empire??? How can you possibly put Empire in this mix??

put who you want in the back of the pile, who cares. Bottom line is Outlaws will be in the middle again or worse!

where do you find the time to go to all these practices to scout all these teams?

Well in all fairness he put them on the bottom

To be fair , there are a dozen teams between them and the bottom!

What a bunch of morons on here. So much negativity. If you had a bad experience, find something else that works for your kid and move on. What works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Not every kid has the ability or the interest in playing on the number one team on Long Island. There is a team, and a college, for every kid. Not every boy wants to play D1 ball. Whatever happened to playing for the love of the game? I feel sorry for some of your kids! Don't ruin the experience for them. If they don't play D1 or get a scholarship, you are going to make them feel like failures.

Has anyone else noticed that the outlaw website has changed. During tryouts the tuition said 2400 and it included 8 positional clinics. Now it says 6 positional clinics and tuition is the same, 2400. Was this communicated to parents in a reduction of services after they paid the first installment?

Get used to it, PB and the Outlaws change like the wind and whenever it suits them.

Ahhh bait and switch the old Outlaws way. Nothing like taking the name literally as how you treat your paying customers.

Smoke and mirrors

They don't list their tourneys any more either, which is fine. A bummer cause it's nice to see. 91 no tourneys listed either.

Hope Outlaws had their lawyers look into rights usage of the college logos. That can be perceived as an endorsement and could be a major lawsuit that could bring down the company. Happens all the time.

But it's their business and can run it the way they want.

I thought outlaws was the place to be this year? Haha!!!

Looked at that. They also have Myles Jones from Duke as a coach. Does Myles know he is a coach? Or Duke? What team did he coach last year or this year?

Thank you for checking the website, it is much appreciated. Clinics were originally going to be 1 hour- we changes them to 1:20 for Youth and 1:30 for High School. All kids will receive same training time as originally posted, most likely more. We received nothing but positive feedback from the clinics this weekend, which was ran by all of our board members. The only tuition which changed on web site was 3rd grade, and it came down in price. We added practice for all teams after first installment, added tournaments for all High School Teams as well. HS Tournaments posted on website, Youth to follow. Please continue to keep an eye on us, not sure what we would do without you.

Any Teams want to set up Scrimmages/games Please contact Us
Thanks PB

Yup, going to believe the snake oil salesman or the people who have tried the product and seen the results I mean lack of.

Could not agree with you more. Just go look at the tournaments they are putting their A(select teams) compared to black. In almost every case the select is getting more tournaments but the black teams pay the same amount.

For 2019 they fed everyone a line about how good the black team will be and how they will be in a lot of the same recruiting tournaments as the select. Not only have they loaded up the team with kids when they cancelled the C team but the tournaments they are playing in suck!!!. So much for treating all the teams equally. I guess I will be back to individual showcases to get my kid exposure.. Thought that's what I was paying them for.

Hard to believe after 3 try out dates they are still looking to fill roster spots through emails. Either kids decided to go another direction and take spots on other teams for one reason or another, or it's just an indication of the product they have put out the last couple of years. Either way it doesn't say much for the club.

Every organization has to fill spots - outlaws are stronger than ever - please go away its getting old

I could not agree with you more. You have select teams playing in 3 tournaments at least and black teams looking for players. I feel bad for 2023 black. Paying same amount but they are short 6 players if you go by their math that's basically a team of 15 if that much because you know that they have a few who don't belong there.

Actually makes me feel good that they didn't just take anybody....just to have a body and fill a spot. Will all work itself out like it always does.

Don't feel bad for them. Kids had a great first practice and are looking forward to only getting better.

Saw a post about their fall tournaments where are they headed to.

Its the same story with Outlaws all the time they never fill a roster hoping to get a diamond in the rough. Instead end up with a few duds! Happened last year and I see its happening again this year on all levels.

It is the same old story with the people out here bashing the good programs..

Seems like a lot of different people.There must be an indication of some truth!

Kids working their butts off, enjoying playing a sport and getting better are "duds". Wow, a son having a good father figure is a diamond in the rough. You my friend are what we call a failed parent, sorry, A "dud".

wrong .. most of them are the same people answering themselves.

I hear the 2021 select team is as good or if not better than igloo black ice and 91 heat.

I hear the 2021 select team is as good or if not better than igloo black ice and 91 heat.


Thats has been posted here for the last 3 or 4 years. Thay are a good squad to be sure, one of the Islands top 7 or 8 teams. But they have never come close to beating a true AA in 2021. I think 91 0 crushed them last year as did Igloos better team. I also do not believe they have ever beaten Expresses true A nor TLIs nor Icon. They are good no doubt, but they have not been able to break into the elite category. I see no reason that should change. They should be proud of what they have accomplished to date

They have developed these kids over the years making few changes. They got better and probably a top 5 team on Long Island by teaching and practicing with the same kids over the years. I agree they should be proud of where they are now given where they started a few years ago.

We will see how they do this year. Do not forget, a few small changes on a roster of 20 to 24 adds up. If you flip 3 players per year over 5 years thats 15 players, thats more then 50% of your roster at the end of the day. And lets face it, if you have a player who develops and is great, chances are he leaves to play on 91 or Express (if you do Catholic school). Being on 91s A team in 8th grade and on pretty much assures you looks from D1. They know youi would not be there if you where not one of the ISlands Top 50 players. Not meant to be a knock on the Outlaws, they do a great job with recruiting, but 91 and Express put more kids in D1 and get more rides. WHen it comes to recruiting I would say Outlaws are a solid #3

Solid #3, so you're saying there is a chance.

I said 3 at recruiting. The Outlaws fall below 91 Orange, Igloo AA, WOlverines, Icon , TLI and not sure about Legacy in actual play. Icon and Igloo are new clubs , dont even know of they coach recruitable ages yet

You are talking about 2021 and D 1 recruiting?? You people have lost your minds !

They fact that you people believe the hype , drives the money right to the clubs!

I disagree, this travel season will be for rising 8 th graders. The recruiting is only a year away for the true talent. You will see that in most cases , the elite players are moved to Varsity in 8th grade. If you think college coaches are not looking at 2020 this year your wrong. These guys are on the cusp and if getting recruited is what your after, by the way I am not. the next 3 seasons are crucial. This one to find the right team and spot and the two following to make your mark

Yea they have a great coaching staff but for some reason hire outside people to pick there teams? I can tell you that is doesn't work! They leave out a lot of talented kids that now play for other teams!

The Outlaws have a few good teams. Let's be truthful the 2017 A Team was the Gladiators and that is their best teams. The coaching is great. The coach was so good he saw that one coach in particular didn't really fit and had him shipped off and another age group 2018 is stuck with him. The 2018 Black/Select was loaded with talent. Just the coaching stunk. No practices, No plays, No commitment from the head coach resulted in no commitment from players and parents. As a result the team fragmented. If anyone and anyone with an ounce of self worth can say this isn't true with actual facts please prove me wrong here are the facts:
barely any practices, (more practices cancelled than actually had) no set plays, parents filling in at tournaments to coach, sometimes only 1 coach on the sideline, never the same coaches at practice or tournaments, head coaches going on vacation during tournaments, barely enough players to field teams at most tournaments, not having enough players at particular positions to play and using players who never played the position to fill in.
Of course the powers that be will say ohh players thought they couldn't show because the team had 32 players. That's bs! It was made clear that you were to be selected to certain tournaments and those we're the tournaments you were playing in. If the coach had pulse of the team and knew what was going he would make sure he had enough players at tournaments. The team would be bringing 24 players to each tournament. If the coaching doesn't improve, which I doubt it will, the team will be a sub .500 team. I hope for the sake of the new players and parents this isn't true but getting your rear end handed to you at every tournament and not playing in the quarters, semi's, and or finals of one recruiting tournament isn't going to help with recruiting. Having a lacrosse recruit profile isn't recruiting. These are just the facts. As a past consumer I only think it's fair that parents know the truth. Again you will be wooed and told whatever you need to hear, but once those checks are cleared you will be treated like the red headed step child. If this is what you want go ahead just be aware and maybe you can nip it in the [lacrosse] now and it will be different for your team. Lots of talent on the team but it needs to be coached.

Been through this twice already. You are insane. they just started 7th grade!! A handful will be recruited in 9th. Most in 10th and 11th. Everyone needs to relax and work on grades. That is what will really matter when the time comes. Every early recruit I have seen is a great student!!

2018 Team is Loaded and Coaching is Great, Glad your gone, Your kid just is not that good, its ok, BYE BYE

Thanks Coach!

Don't think you can read. Person never said players weren't good. They spoke about organization and the coaching. Based on what I read coaching seemed the coaching sucked!!!!!!

Lol. Great retort. It seems so well thought out that I am completely and utterly at a loss for words. Kid was there for a few years and we saw the complete regression of coaching. So the facts are the facts. Again I will reiterate the team had very good players the past two seasons. This past summer the coaching or lack of coaching is what hurt the overall results.

I think he can read, he said the team is loaded NOW. Your kid, who wasn't as good as you thought, is now gone. The new better players and returning top players from last year will have a much stronger team. The way I see it, the Outlaws gave your kid an opportunity to play with better kids last year, didn't they? If anyone should be ticked off, it should be the parents of the better players!!! It didn't work for your kid. How does that make you a victim? Go in the yard and practice with your kid, get him in the gym, do something. But for God sakes stop with the victim rant. The overwhelming majority of the top kids returned, and many more would have if they were given the opportunity to do so. Move on already.

And your kid wasn't asked back.

Your true colors shine through when you attack the kids. You provide a service but can't handle when the product you supplied is criticized by the unhappy consumers. It's not just one age group it's multiple. Can't always be the kids it starts from the top. The rebuttal always is if you have an issue your kid must stink, he wasn't good enough, etc. How about we still play for the Outlaws and want more for our money than what we received the past two years. The fact you say you are approachable but are the farthest thing from it.

You must be a psychic to be able to determine what opportunity my son was given by the Outlaws. Lol. My son contributed plenty last year and the year before. So as for knocking him that's fine by me. You seem to be regurgitating the same speech that was given at the beginning of last season. No one has knocked the players like you keep trying to knock my son. Team had a ton of talent last year. If the team is loaded and has a ton of talent and is that much better than last year if they do poorly can you say it's poor coaching not lack of talent. As for playing the victim the only thing my son was a victim of was horrible coaching not one man up play that everyone knew because they were rarely any practices. I guess your ok with the fact that you were duped if you had a player on the team. You were happy with the non practices, the 0 plays the team had, the fact that the team didn't have enough players showing to tournaments, that players who committed to play in certain tournaments didn't show because they decided to play with their town teams and left the team short players because they were frustrated by the lack of results.
As for the top kids returning lol. 3 to 4 of the top kids left and those who were going to leave stayed because their high schools eliminated or reduced the number of summer games they were to play in. Again never said anything bad about players because there was plenty of talent on the team.

Truth be told!!!!

This year your lack of having the ball will hurt you. Had one of best fogos in country last year and still struggled!

Yea he was great at the two tourns he showed up to... How do you know that another top fogo isn't playing this year? You wouldn't. Worry about your kids team.

His deal was to show up to two tournaments. So nothing out of the ordinary there.

Its funny because the Outlaws told everyone he was the faceoff guy for the team. Yet they didn't tell everyone it was only for two tournaments. He was playing fulltime for Sweetlax.

Wonder where this new top FOGO manifested from. All the top teams have theirs. There hasn't been much movement of the top faceoff guys. 91 Extreme stayed (committed), Express stayed (committed), fl$ 1 Stayed (committed) one left to play for town team (committed), Team LI stayed, Outlaws left (committed) to Sweetlax.

And you should be the next one committed - let it go - its a new year, You and your son moved on, good luck to you.

How will 2021 do tomorrow at Columbus Day Invitational?

Good luck

Is it true that the 2019 black and silver merged?

It wouldn't surprise me! If you haven't noticed the 2022 teams are short players too I bet a merger is on its way there too!

Why do you care? Your son is not on the team. Your obsession with this 15 year old boys lacrosse team is now becoming down right creepy and disturbing. What next, hiding in the bushes at practice? Move on already creeper.

And where is YOUR son playing "full-time" now? What team? Come on, here's your chance to impress us all.

yes. weren't enough kids for silver so some moved up to black. it is just B team again like it was when they called silver last year

2 practices in and the truth starts to come out. Yay82d

We have some fields available next sun Oct 25th. Looking to set up games with our 2019 Select-2018 Select and Black-2017 select and Black. Thanks PB

Is it at Countrywood School?

Step up and let's play... vzFNKr

Of your going to compete with Black Ice and Orange beating the Wolverines and 91s B team would be a good start

So how did the 2022 Black team do in the Halloween Havoc?

Outlaw B team went 1-2.
A team was not in it.

I guess its gonna be the same miserable year we had last year on the Silver!

Its a shame that ALL these teams feel the need to put an inferior product on the field just to make money!

Its a shame people think only the better players get the opportunity to play extra lacrosse. I just saw an event geared toward the B teams. Smart call.

give everyone hwo wants to play and get better a chanace

If you are unhappy with the team,it's early call pb and ask for your money back don't cry about it.

This note was to say good going for those clubs who make b teams available for kids who still want to play. I was also commenting about some tournaments geared towards those players. both great things

WHat I find ironic is that I think their is more money to be made for B teams. If you play on an elite team there are only 2 or 3 team son the Island that can compete with you. SO its off on the Belt Pckwy you guy and a 300 dollars hotel bill. FOr every stud player there are 3 or 4 really good players and for every really good players heir are 10 solid players. SO more kids, less need to travel. WHile they wont get a free ride, many colleges are looking for good students who can also play on their lax team, even if they never see the field on game day. Ive knows kids who where average lax players yet it helped them get into a college they wanted and got some money off the price

Bottom-line is don't charge the same money as the A team who has superior coaching and gets more attention and more tournaments! My son is a borderline A/B player as most kids in the A teams are and I refuse to have him play on a B team because of the cost!

PB doesn't care and you won't get a discount. He will probably hang up on you if you call him. Welcome to the Outlaws!!

Lol so true, this site needs a LIKE button.
One of the above posters says "if you're not happy stop complaining and call PB and ask for your money back." That's someone who has no idea how Outlaws works !!!
How people are still paying the Outlaws the same money to play on the Silver team as they do on the Black team is CRAZY !!! For years the silver team is being ripped off by getting 2nd rate treatment compared to the black team but still paying the same amount. At least at other organizations, the different level teams pay deifferent amounts.

What are you talking about. Never saw a tiered program based on level.

Yeah because 91, Express, Legacy, etc, don't favor their A teams right? Come on... Same bitter guy

So to all in general: let me get this right. You want to come onto this site and trash the outlaws, but play for the other top teams and your roster is a revolving door of players that take your sons spot on the field at any given tournament and you are okay with that ? Please go start your own post about the team you NOW play for and go away

You are incredulous that others still pay the same money for outlaws silver. I am curious, did you and your son leave to play elsewhere? did he make an A team? Did you move to another B team? If so do you now get equal treatment? Do you pay the same amount? Or did you move on to another similar situation and simply choose to complain about the outlaws? where is the panacea that you found. share the details. there are many families from many programs that are playing on a B team that would be interested. please share.

WOW I guessi it's not a good day to be an Outlaw!! Lol got killed all around on the 2022. I guess the select can't really run with the big boyz!

Wow. Losing 11-6 to an express team that just beat smash is not a bad showing. Then,losing 7-5 to igloo that just beat express isn't too bad either. But I guess in this persons mind you have to win every game in order to be good. I'd hate to be you. Worrying about what a 6th grade team is doing on a lacrosse field. And your son isn't even on the team. Scary.

He or she is a jealous loser. People like this have no lives.

everyone has a bad day-- go worry about your team

You people are pathetic. If you talk about being an AA team then you better step up and win against the good teams. Better go play your tournaments out of state against there B teams cause you can't win here on Long Island.

So I guess with your logic, St. A's is no longer "good" at lacrosse anymore, because they've lost to Chaminade the last two years. Do you see how stupid you sound?
If you lose to a better team by a few goals and the kids got better, isn't that why you play travel lacrosse? To challenge yourself against tough competition? Such a moronic view. Can't wait to hear your excuses when your son's team get's blown out by some out of state team...LOL.

we played this team today. Dont underestimate them. They can definitely hang with the big boys.

The likleylhood is that the person who posted this nonsense on an Outlaws News message board is one of the following :
1- Someone whose kid is no longer good enough to make the Selecf or Black team and if th raid is, they won't pick him because of this father
2- Someone who dislikes Pat Brennan and has no other outlet to express his overly dramatic and ostensibly rude commentary.
3- Someone who has all the time in the world to even trash a bunch of 10/11 year olds
4- Likely-it's Someone we know who has posted this [lacrosse] over and over since he left the outlaws and unfortunately- some of you just can't ignore the immflamatory comments. He prefers to get you on edge because he thinks it might get to Pat or Doug. The problem- Pat and Doug could care less about this board and the knuckleheads who post the nonsense. So instead - we, those coming to read the "news" on the Ourlaws - have to read a bunch of crap on an anonymous message board.
Time to move this to full registration. Then we can see what ex-parent coaches keep posting on other teams message boards years later to start trouble and trash talk. The problem when it's no longer in jest-- is these more recent Attucks oh the kids themselves.

Or #5 Don't act like your $h!t don't stink cause your an outlaw. It's obviously not that big a deal being an Outlaw. You can now stop talking trash and start putting a product on the field that can be winners here not in states where lacrosse is irrelevant. Why do you assume I'm an ex parent?

We don't know if your a ex parent but we all know your a jackass!

Dont be a hater cause you pay 2500 for your team to SUCK! Lol

You sure have had a lot to say. You are the only detractor in here, all the rest are signing their names telling their truth.. You are a very sad soul. Maybe your mama didn't love you enough?

I have an idea.. you want credibility, sign your name, otherwise go get a life.

So why didn't you go down to the Tournament this weekend and discuss your beef with him? He was there. Why? Because you would rather come on here and cry like the little girl that you are. Get over it already...

We know this person is a ex-outlaw.. if not then why come to this forum and B*#@H. My son is on the 2022 Outlaws and I thought they played Express and Igloo well. They made some mistakes and should reduce the stick checking around the crease. They have some things to work on..and they will improve.. but played two of the top 2022 teams well. If you were at the game - you would have a similar assessment.

OK that is one assessment. Not the one I saw but OK. I saw a team that was having trouble scoring due to a lack of the ability of the middies. The attack looked out of place a lot and the defense was non existent vs Express (good one). Overall just an average team.

What happened to the 2020 team? Didn't do to well.

Not an Outlaws parent but saw them play Igloo and Express. They have some excellent players and are a very solid team that can compete. Coach should chill out though, his sideline screaming takes away from the boys' quality of play and makes the team look thuggish.

If you are going to evaluate the 3 teams saturday here's what I saw:
Outlaws take way too many penalties. Their attack was good but they didn't like it when pressured. Their defense was fast with good skills but play way too much defense and get tired. Their middies are their Achilles heel. Can't control the ball.
Express's attack is average and rarely touches the ball. Their middies are big fast and strong. They all go to the goal hard and take most of the shots. Their defense is good. Always pressuring the ball. The main asset with them is their face off kid. Hard to beat him. He controls the game for them. They almost always have possession of the ball. Igloo was all around the best team. No great players that stood out but no weaknesses either. Their defense, midfield, attack and goalie all above average players. Just my assessment of the teams.

Who made you a expert on 11 year old lacrosse MORON!

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You're a loser, who needs to get a life! Just my assessment.

I thought that Igloo's team defense was the best of the group. They denied or attempted to deny every pass - they denied shots.. they were physical and never gave the other team an easy shot... made them work for everything.

Its the fall people. Kids are still learning to play with each other and other sports are going on so there is help coming. You so called experts need to breath. You act like they are getting crushed and there is nothing that can be done. The fact is the are playing elite teams and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

The coach and the kids will be ok. just stop hitting the panic button in October.

It's the same damn team as last year! So learning to play with each other is out the window. Either you can play or you cant it's pretty damn simple. The Express team is all new and they seem to have no problem playing with each other? You know what they say about excuses!

You know what they say about guys like yourself who are tough guys behind anonymous posts. Loser.

Lets see what happens in the spring.

I heard they had no problem plain with each other either, Its a Catholic school things, its why the Priests are at ted games

i'm sure it will be a new set of excuses in the spring. Bottom line is your team has a decent attack line, below average middies, and fast but below average defense. So overall your team is a average team!

Please do not bring kids up and mention them in posts!!!!!

No kids were directly mentioned!! It was simply stated that your kids team is not very good

when you mention a specific position that usually has only one player that plays it, its easy to say you were mentioning a specific child. Knock it off!!! I deleted that portion for a reason.

well the only kid that would pertain to would be the goalie and he happens to be the bright spot on that team!

So now I get an email telling me that if I want my kid to participate in Outlaws winter training I will need to pay an additional $300 to $350 on top of the $2400 i'm already paying!!! Hey PB aren't your pockets fat enough

Outlaws lost to Igloo @ Blatant by 2 goals. Outlaws outscored Igloo by a score of 5-2 in the 2nd half. Then Igloo went on to WIN the championship beating Express. Take what you want from that - but Outlaws can hang with these teams. What happens when the Outlaws stop making silly mistakes and beat Express or Igloo.. will that make Express and Igloo a "B" team ?

The Outlaws now have to pay their own bills.It is going to get worse .

You really didn't do your homework on travel lacrosse did you. EVERY organization charges for additional winter training. 91, express. Igloo is all inclusive but you're paying over $3000. Stop your complaining. Better yet why don't you ask for a refund. Be a man. You will be much happier and so will everyone on your child's team.

I did my homework you [lacrosse]. My point is i was told the increase in price was due to not doing a winter program but doing positional training instead. So now I am paying for both!

Keep telling yourself that PB.

It's easy don't do the Winter Training

When you paid your tuition, their website said what you get for the 2400. They are doing positional training. These are extra clinic. What's your point?

There are other programs that include winter training and more and cost around $1500, it just depends how much $ the program is trying to make....

Do us all a favor and quit the team. You sound like the parent nobody talks to anyway

Oh, ok PB.

Excellent response! Typical of someone who left Outlaws and is not happy where they landed. Bottom line - The Outlaws will continue to improve and when they beat you - sounds like you will become a "B" team.. too bad.

depending what you get for the 350, if it is 6 or so indoor clinics. that is fair and sounds about what the other teams charge. I actually prefer it this way because if Lacrosse interferes with basketball then we can choose not to do. Nothing wrong with this. I am not an outlaw parent, just wanted to see the responses to the winter post.

Every year outlaws makes that argument...that they came close to winning against and A team. And every year they are a B team. They are a good B team but not an A team. Just a heads up in the 2022 age group Igloo was resting their players to win the championship as they had back to back games. No disrespect, outlaws played with a ton of heart but they have never beat igloo, express, either 91 team, 32, or even jesters at this age. Call a spade a spade, outlaws is a good B team, can probably best the igloo B team but no threat to any A teams.

I think you are wrong. Whether they are lower tier A or upper tier B, Either way they have every right to play A. How else do you get better. Winning every B tournament pales in comparison to being competitive in A tournaments. They are a solid team. You are underestimating them.

They have NEVER beat an A team and compete well with the B teams, winning some and losing some, thus a B team

WRONG. They just competed well in an A bracket. Go back to your thread. Igloo doesn't let up trust me and the Express game was competitive too. Stop with NEVER winning. You can't just have four A teams. Igloo won tournament by one goal then lost to Express 10-3 the following tournament. The best teams play everyone and don't hide in weaker competition. Stop putting them down. What purpose does it serve.

Obviously, this guy's kid is on the lower end of the talent pool, on one of those teams. He probably rarely gets in, if at all, and most likely got cut from the team his Daddy keeps putting down. He's also the kid who's Daddy is decked out from head to toe in Team gear. Sadly, Daddy keeps forking over the $3000 for the poor kid to be a practice player... You all know the kind of guy we're dealing with here.

So the logic is that you would rather lose in the A division every single time you play any one of six teams on LI (express, smash, United, igloo, 32, Team LI etc.), not to mention 5-6 teams in Maryland etc. just to suggest you are an A team than to play in the appropriate bracket and maybe go 50/50 with the B teams?

Keep hating dirtbag... You know what they say about karma. Good luck to your son.

Hope you parents consider the safety of your kids playing against much more physical and better teams when entering a bracket above their skill set

so your logic is play B so you can go home and say I won. doesn't matter what the competition is. in the A bracket you know there will be competition. isn't that what we are all here for. just curious, are you on one of the above mentioned teams?

you are joking, right? did you see this team play in a tournament? they are competitive and aggressive. don't make this something it's not.

B

How are the 2019 teams doing in the fall tournaments? I know they had a big turnout for tryouts for this age group.

if you read carefully my son played against this team. The jesters folded so its obvious you are basing this on last years games. This team can play against A and should play against A. You seem a little obsessed.

I think you balance it. You play low one tourney so the kids win a championship. Then you play top talent and get beat up and swallow their pride. Then a few in the middle.

The team is fine with their schedule and that is all that matters. Every year a ex-outlaw parent or general hater comes on the thread and puts the team, kid and coaches down. Fact is they are competing with all the teams they play so when we do beat these supposed "A teams" I better hear how the teams they beat are now B teams.

The truth of the matter is they had little turn over so something must be going right within the organization.

Nobody bashes the other clubs because PB is not their Director.

Folded ? That's one way to describe the bad behavior of a few parents!

Let's keep it simple because it appears some outlaws parents are confused. Have you EVER beaten either 91 team, express, igloo, Team LI or 32? If the answer is NO then you are not an A team. There aren't 7 A teams. It's ok, in fact it's great, to be a better B team but don't get confused. Outlaws, at this age, is a B team. Perhaps a better B team, but not an A team.

TLI in the past 2 summers has never beaten any of those teams either. Unless you're talking 3rd grade, and I hope you are not still. So TLI is a B team also. So I guess we are down to five A teams. And since 32 is no longer it's down to 4. So I guess you are right. Maybe since express just beat igloo 10-3 last weekend igloo is no longer an A team. They must haven't got real bad over the course of a week. Smash no longer an A team either, can't beat express when it counts. Do you see how stupid this all sounds? Now if you don't like outlaws that's fine. But stop with they are a B team nonsense. They can play with anybody. Might not win, but they can certainly hang with them.

You people outside the outlaws program just don't get it, but I will try to explain. First of all if your son doesn't play for the outlaws then what are you doing on outlaw news? Travel at this age isn't all about winning its about training your child to be a better well rounded player. Oh wait, let me jump from club to club to search for that team that can take my Johnny all the way to Duke! Smash is a perfect example, for the last couple of years they have been (THE FORCE), Express puts a killer team together, beats them and the kids are throwing tantrums and won't shake hands, oh yeah that's a well rounded player. Thats okay, I rather stay with a club were the director knows my son by his first name you jackasses.

So you are saying there are 6 A teams in the country. So if you beat 3D, Madlax, laxachusetes , Sweetlax , FCA, LB3, Mess Fresh, fl$, Resolute, True Anywhere and on and on and on .....
Dozens of A teams. And you will realize more and more as you get older. Will be 20 A teams in a bracket at a single tournament. The 11 year olds that dominate now, will have lots of competition. Ask Extreme, Turtles, Terps, 91 Orange , Gladiadtors etc.

You must be very insecure . Every year these teams change players , some improve , grow , some don't. They just got into 6th grade. Some kids on those "A" teams as you call them shouldn't be there and won't eventually , and some kids on Outlaws should be there . Let's just calm down because as you will find out in a few years it doesn't really matter what team your on in 6th grade . Can you make that team in 8/9 th grade is the real goal. It's nice to have your 6th grader as your oldest and this is your first trip on this $$$ train .

you need to go back and read these threads. Several of the people sticking up for the outlaws are the ones not on the outlaws. Mainly because we have played some competitive games with them and our kids know each other. The hater is someone on the team or who left the team thinking he was sold an A team. He cant and won't let it go for whatever reason. And smash problems were parents not kids.

Parents are more interested in A, AA, or B than the kids. No one I know talks about their 6th grade record as an adult. Even Al Bundy was a joke because he talked about his HS achievements. These kids should be getting better and having fun. If your son is happy, he is learning about the game, improving and working hard what more do you want? These parents who are so concerned that another team is confident or thinks they are good enough to be competitive with the big boys are losers. they are trying to protect some weak image they have of themselves and their child's worth.
In the end, if the Outlaws are not as good as someone says they are, Your team will beat them. Congratulations. If they compete, good for both of you. It was a good game and someone won. Isnt that better than a 10 point spread?
How does it affect you if another team is crazy enough to think they belong in the top team discussion? It doesn't.

Quit here?
How did select teams do at adrenaline this weekend

It's quiet

LI Outlaws 2017 Select (4 - 1)
LI Outlaws 2018 Select (4 - 1)
LI Outlaws 2019 Select (2 - 2 - 1)

2018 Select played some really well known teams. LOL

Fusion. Never heard of them.

LB3 Atlanta same team they beat from the hotbed of lacrosse Atlanta last week.

Blue Star. Never heard of them

Headstrong. Weak program.

FCA White. B/C Team.

I will prepare myself for the personal attacks on myself and my kid. You don't like facts. When you beat 91 Extreme, Express North, Sweetlax A, Express Channy, Dukes, Crabs, Edge Canada, Tomahawks Purple, Jesters Black, Team LI, Laxachusetts Black and a few other true A teams then come on here and brag. Coming on here and bragging about the teams you beat at Adrenaline this past weekend is pathetic.

Was someone bragging ?

I wonder who 2019 played...we've heard so much about how great that select team is going to be...did 2019 black/silver also play?

Was someone bragging? One poster asked what the scores were, and another posted the scores. At this age group it’s about getting noticed when you go to a showcase event. Go to the 6th grade forum and argue about A, B, and C teams.

Wow that big 2019 select team is only 2-2-1. Lol

Don't get it based on teams they played it seems they played C teams or very weak B teams. So that's a great way to get recruited beat up on weak teams. You go Outlaws.

I don't see any scores posted. I see the overall record for the weekend for the 3 Outlaws teams that played. No one was bragging - just answering the question that was asked. Sorry that the teams can only play the ACTUAL teams that attend a tournament, not the ones you think they should play. Get a life already.

Your envy, bitterness and jealousy are palpable through the computer screen. I really for sorry for you. Good luck to your son.

No personal attacks, just worry about the team your son plays on. Which is? Come on let everyone know, its another chance for you to impress everyone. (he just doesn't have the courage to say)

Don't be mad that your kid got cut. Move on.

Black played in Princeton nj going 0-4.

Black What ? Impossible to go 0-4. you are guaranteed 3 games only... only winning team goes to a 4th or 5th game. You are trying to stir the pot.

there was only 5 teams in the 9th grade division- so everyone played each other duh

Or you don't know what you are talking about.

it is easy to look up. they had 4 games. Thunder, Momma's, Brotherhoood, & Ottawa. 2 were close two weren't. wasn't there but seems to me could have been as easily 2-2.

They could have easily been 4-0 if they won all their gaems, just as they were easily 0-4 since they lost all their games.

2019 select team not as good as expected. This is what happens when individuals with superior skills are over looked at tryouts so certain groups of players from certain towns are catered to. This team also inherited the poison that killed Legacy commandos, watch out for the wolf in sheeps clothing!

Superior Skills??

"Wolf", clever.

Does not look like the 2018 Select team is doing too well.

Just wondering if there will be a Mommas Boyz merge in the near future? Heard some interesting tidbits on that one.

Thought it was a bay shore marauder that killed the commandos!

Is that the team with the bras on their jerseys? (I know, I know, it's a great cause)

Mamas boys to the outlaws?

No way. Will never happen. Mamas Boys have a lot of 91 players. No reason to jump to a lesser club.

Was not the select team. Half the kids did not go.That also includes both coaches

Wow........I don't even see any 2019 Legacy teams......quite surprising and quite a tumble!!

Your message is weird for an Outlaw post.

Legacy Commandos was blown up by one of the new Outlaws parents! Enjoy him!

Smoke and Mirrors that woman that runs Mommas Boys. Hopefully, the Brennan's have her number.

What age group are you talking about and what tournament?

Whichever age group and tournament you are thinking about!!

Some people are so nasty it's ridiculous. Have a beautiful day, grouch!!

I believe they were talking about 2018 Select.

Thanks for the info

Wolf in sheepshead clothing , bayshore marauder what ever you want to call this parent had nothing to do with killing commandos. A combo of losing players who went to express because they are going to st ants, the tension between the 2 coaches and the directors lack of interest in the team. Add to that the notion of reclassing players, which parents had no interest in doing.

Team was doomed from the beginning. The players, coaches, parents were never going to mesh. Should have kept the teams separate from the beginning. St Anthony's, outlaws, express, and the marauder didn't help either.

Same thing every year!! Doesn't matter what age group.

It doesn't matter what happened to the Legacy team, it does matter if these guys get into a good college, stay and finish and are a success. Bad parents unfortunately get in the way. They like to put the blame on others. Maurader, St. Ants parents, whatever the reasoning behind the move, let's watch where it pans out. These are the important years. Parents with bad reps hopefully will change their ways. Stay quiet, let your boy play. Maybe the Brennan's can do what all the other organizations couldn't. Maybe not. Good luck in the spring!

Not a parent on this team, a St Ants, or even remotely connected to this team, but I did read this thread with interest, and was thinking about this statement and it rings true... "it doesn't matter what happened to the legacy team, it does matter if these guys get into a good college, stay and finish and are a success." As the kids are getting older- I would say now starting in 8th grade ( which is a damn shame) the team in itself should work as a team, but really wins and losses are not important, a solid team is what one needs and all players and parents need to be on board for the sum of the team to reach a goal- get the players into a good college and have them be an integral part of the success of their future college teams, as well as a success off the field, and most importantly a good citizen of society. Parents near and far seem to be lacking the role in trying to raise good kids, or at least it appears that is their last priority, as their own behavior is less than upstanding showing the way they act on the sidelines of the games and practices. Good luck to all the boys in youth lacrosse and let them all use the sport to better themselves and their chances to make themselves into a success in the future- on and off the fields.

Hey how did the 2022 "Select' team do this past weekend?

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I guess you lost to the 5th graders.

Seems to me you knew the results and just wanted to stir it up. Why would an adult act like this? I hope your kids take after your wife and are not as childish as you are. Move on, I understand your sun was cut by the Outlaws but enough is enough. It's time for Daddy to wake up and act like a grown up.

Thats funny my kid did not try out for the Outlaws. By the looks of that team no one got cut. lol

So why are you on this thread? Your a real POS. Loser.

LOL you kiss your mother with that mouth! Your wife and kids must be proud! Get a life and go play for a real team that doesn't suck every dime from your measly little wallet!

Lol Don't make me crush you with my wallet. Its a Sledgehammer so don't think the outlaws are doing that to you. I have other problems if they are taking every dime.

Did Outlaws play in the Santa Jam tournament? I thought I saw a lot of Outlaw helmets??

New Outlaw bumper stickers now available. Go to the site and fill your cart! Gotta to have the skull and crossbones! Yes, we are outlaws!

Come on, that's too blatant.

No outlaw teams played in Santa Jam

Outlaws have anymore 2025 open spots ?

The only Outlaw team that played in Spring jam was 7th. What's going on with that club? They claim they're an A club but only the top clubs showed up.
Are they going downhill?

It's very simple. They will only enter the select teams in tournaments they know they can win!!

You mean CANT win!!!! Lol

How much would some of you pay to join a travel team now in the month of May ? When does the season end ? Would you pay $100 for a tryout if they are looking and posting needing players ? Thank you for all feedback , new to travel and Like to know anymore eles experience .

It depends on how many other options your son has and how badly he wants to play this summer. It also comes down to how good your son is, it always does. If he's a game changer kind of player, you hold a lot of cards. If he's just average, then it's a little harder to negotiate. Supply and demand I would think?
Summer season should be 5 tourns and 8-12 practices. If fall was included, a prorated amount should apply.
Hope that helps.

I would think if your son was a "game changer" he would already be on a travel team. Regardless of that fact it's about the $$. So pro rate the season for missed practices and go from there.

I went and talked to several clubs and got a prorated quote from each one. I would not pay a 100 bucks to try out at this point. We had a coach in mind but they wouldn't pro rate us. I told them we will go to another organization that is offering it much cheaper. Within a half hour the club that we wanted to play for called and said they would match the other organizations price. At this late in the game they aren't looking for game changers. They are looking for kids to fill their roster so they can rest kids during the hot summer months.

From what I have seen, this late in the process if a team has a hole what the tend to do is invite the player to a practice and evaluate him there.

2025? Would that be 3rd grade? Ridiculous. Take it from experience. Unless you have $$ to burn, put the money in a 529 account.

Should be less than a $1000. Last year Express put a summer team together in June for 3 tournaments for $500. Worked great and they got all those kids back

New larger skull and crossbones bumper stickers available now for you car. Get them now!

I WANT ONE. WHERE DO i GET IT?

Some of these organizations and won't say any !! Will take your money what they can get , sell you a dream , get there color helmet and lock you in !! Yes even 3rd grade , they have some pair of Balls. But QUESS who the suckers are "WE ARE" , we give them the ammo , these LAX travel teams are as much as Ice Hockey Why ? I wouldn't join a team no more than $750 8 if started in April missed 5 months or better be at least 15 practice few clinics or take that $750 put in a 529 lol I like that one. Take $450 and do private clincs or camps , don't be a sucker people I'm guilty of it before but didn't break the bank I nipped it before it did .
Good lock I can be ugly out there.

Very true good post

Cheap illiterate loser! let your kid have a little fun. So what if it's overpriced. What isn't?

Keep being part of the sheeple!! Bah! Bah!

What's the alternative? Play in the town team only and have to develop your kid with a mix of talent levels of players and in some schools inadequate coaching as opposed to joining a team such as Outlaws with good coaching and give your kid opportunity to develop their skills as they prepare to play HS lax.

It's buyer beware but generally if your kid loves the sport it's a good investment.

It's a bunch of crap. You don't need to spend a small fortune to prepare your child for HS. That's the BS the club teams are selling.

Maybe you guys should focus on fundamentals instead of promo stickers.fundamentals may have helped you more at spring jam.

Blatantly true

Its about the Outlaw lifestyle and image, not just about lax.

It has to be because the amount of practice we get for the high price we get charged is ridiculous. I will be switching clubs next year.

I thought that too, and then my oldest got to HS and all the travel kids were more advanced. It sucks, but that's the way it is.

Me too, my son plays on the 2023 team, and they chased away the best coach that was one of the parents, and replaced him with a high school varsity coach that is never there, and we hardly ever practice. All this was done after try-outs and we starting paying, not what we expected.

Typical Outlaws. You got scammed. I'm sure the owner purposely had that planned out. Great indication of the future of that team.

The parent coaches were replaced at the end of last season with a tournament left. Done well before tryout. It was know at tryout that there was a new coach. If you are unhappy with team, coaches, amount of practice talk to director. Don't come on here and make stuff up to sensationalize your post.

I'm desensitized at this point. Total bs for what we're put through.

The pitfall of having varsity coaches as your youth club coach is two fold. One, they are doing varsity this time of year. and the club will not be their focus. And anyone that claims their club is different is lying. Second, with a parent as coach or assitant coach, you will get far more practice and tourneys then if its all paid coaching. Paid coaches give exactly what they are paid for, if it's 10 practices, thats what you get. Have to find the right fit for your player.

I won't sensationalize if you don't make it up as you go. One parent coach was removed midway through the summer, and probably should have been removed sooner. The one I made reference to, didn't know he was being replaced until after try-outs and chose to leave with his son. This coach was on the sidelines for the last tournament and was an evaluator at the try-outs. I don't think he would have done either, if he knew he was leaving.

Never play for a club that has 10 practices anyway. My son plays for a big club and he has a paid non dad coach who practices twice a week and all winter indoors. What the coach works out with the club is his business . What can u accomplish in 10 practices ? Just sayin

And you are paying for every single one of those exrra practices. Trust me. With fall winter and extra spring its cost me a fortune. And im on the biggest club out there now on LI. Everything costs $$.

As with everything on this board, everyone takes you literally.
I used the number 10 as an example.
The outlaws practice a lot more than that, so for all the people taking this literally, let's say 40. There, is that better now? Just sayin

What team is your son on?
I'm asking because our grade has next to no practices and we wish we had our old coach who left with his son. I'd like to get a refund based on bate and switch.

Typical Outlaws crap.

My son was on the Outlaws years ago. They recruited a parent out of the stands to coach the defense. Total joke!

What just happened today?? I can't believe the turmoil with our team.

Really? They recruited a parent out of the stands? I doubt that very much. The fact is that they have a great lineup of coaches and work hard to provide a good product. You come one here, Anonymous of course, and just start saying completely ridiculous things. Unless your a director and have actual information except that it was do us all a favor and just stay quiet. What is ridiculous is that you won't give any details which might make you sound like a fool in the end. Glad you aren't with us anymore.

Yeah the directors are so approachable. NOT!!!!! The directors Bait and switch. Make promises they never keep. It the Outlaws way.

LOL- totally true

They love using guys like miles jones as a selling point in there website , he is in Duke having a great time being a young man, what he Travels back and forth every weekend and help the outlaws coach ?? Just Stop

Jackass my son was on outlaws for 3 years and Myles was one of the assistant coach after he was done with school. Get facts straight. Last season was first season he didn't coach cause was doing internship.

Wait that's not true that he is helping out with the outlaws?? wth!!

Yes [lacrosse] he did!!

I'm shocked at the language from an Outlaw parents !

(Without the wife beater logo shirt and double fisted red cup)

Does anyone else feel that bringing in high school coaches to develop our kids was a joke?

Who would you like. Complaints about dad coaches first now high school coaches. Should we go to the coaches spare closet to get different coaches.

White trash Outlaws

Now wait just a minute, Bubba. That is trashy of YOU! That is enough of this crap. Hope I made myself clear for you, huh, Bubba?

Hey Moron,
The high school coaches aren't showing up.

I guess you don't have an intelligent answer.

I personally liked the college players in flip flops and sunglasses. They taught nothing, held no one accountable and collected a pay check. More power to 'em

Sounds like a great organization. No wonder why they can't compete with the other clubs.they always end up getting second best.but they will still call them elite for the money grab

You guys with your coaches and flip flop phobia's. Hysterical. Who cares what they wear on their feet. They're not playing. It's summer, hot out. I'm sure most of you parents are wearing them too. Get over that argument.

this post must have been written by a baseball cap turned sideways youth.
It has to do with image, respect, and authority. Unlike the millenials and youth of n this country.

Image, respect and authority ???? Stop it.

If the only thing you have to complain about is the footwear of your coach , things can't be that bad!


Relax!

Actually it was written by a 40 something year old coach who finds it amusing that parents would care what i wear on my feet. I know more about lacrosse then 99% of the parents yet my feet are what concerns you. Again, the coach is not playing.

Keep striving for mediocrite Outlaw

Boo hoo, all the parents who's kids didn't make outlaws.go beat up on 91 or express for aawhile.

You must be an outlaw minion. My kid wasn't cut by the outlaws.i'm just stating facts that i see at tournaments.it is very clear many of the kids from the outlaws organization are B to C level players