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A few nice shiny Red Helmets at Candlewood today!!!
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A few nice shiny Red Helmets at Candlewood today!!!

At all grade groups.
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Not any stealth kids, seems like a lot of different helmets at each tryouts, should be interesting!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
They are the best Helmets., Igloo actually went to Same helmet after rebels, just in that so NICE baby Blue.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
A few nice shiny Red Helmets at Candlewood today!!!

At all grade groups.


A few ? I thought there was going to be a mass exodus to the more established clubs like 91 or express ? Didn’t happen last year and didn’t happen this year. Until 91 puts out a good product at this age group, no one good is going there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Several Rebels players at Igloo tryouts even a couple of Stealth players too. Why don't they just get smart and move stealth to Suffolk for their east club?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Rebels team is Centrally located, Parents travel the most 20-25 Minutes, to be on the very best(by far, some nice new editions). Let the battle for 2nd place begin.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Rebels and Igloo parents/directors can keep pounding their chests about how great they are now. But after being at the NLF this past weekend, it is clear nobody is recruiting players from either of those clubs. There are maybe 2-3 players from each of those teams that could possibly make Express or 91 over the next 2 years. Neither of those clubs has qualified for the WS in recent years and thats not gonna change in the coming years. The gap will close fast, and parents of better players will move to greener pastures. Enjoy the ride, it will be over shortly.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Bottom kids will move from clubs. Already saw a bunch leave Igloo to goto Express mid season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
91 will be top team in 3 years
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91 will be lucky to have a team in 3 years
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Hope tryouts went well for all your Long Island Teams. Not gonna matter much because the DMV is untouchable. ML, Hawks, NL are gonna dominate your under age LI as..es!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Express tryouts counted about 14 total from other clubs. 6 Rebels 3 Igloo, 1 turtle, 1 91, the rest randoms.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
"the DMV"...ooooohhhhhh - grow up!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship

What do you mean partial? Full athletic scholarships don’t exist in the lacrosse world. And if you’re worried about that in 4th grade you’re a complete clown.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship

What do you mean partial? Full athletic scholarships don’t exist in the lacrosse world. And if you’re worried about that in 4th grade you’re a complete clown.

1) Exactly Partial ( Meaning part of ) never said full scholarship.

2) Never said I or anyone was thinking about college in 4th grade. I said middle school. That is exactly when you should be thinking about it. that's when you need to determine if your child is going to play at the next level. 8th grade summer going into 9th is a big year in starting to build your film 9th grade summer going into 10th is recruiting ( if you are top tier player)

3) I was giving my opinion on what I believe is 1 particular clubs thinking. They will always have 2 teams they will be making money. I believe (IMHO) that their focus is Recruiting. they care abut they younger teams but not nearly as much as the older teams.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship

What do you mean partial? Full athletic scholarships don’t exist in the lacrosse world. And if you’re worried about that in 4th grade you’re a complete clown.

1) Exactly Partial ( Meaning part of ) never said full scholarship.

2) Never said I or anyone was thinking about college in 4th grade. I said middle school. That is exactly when you should be thinking about it. that's when you need to determine if your child is going to play at the next level. 8th grade summer going into 9th is a big year in starting to build your film 9th grade summer going into 10th is recruiting ( if you are top tier player)

3) I was giving my opinion on what I believe is 1 particular clubs thinking. They will always have 2 teams they will be making money. I believe (IMHO) that their focus is Recruiting. they care abut they younger teams but not nearly as much as the older teams.

Good response that makes sense to me. For 2) though, I've heard repeatedly from coaches (club, hs, college) that for recruiting nothing matters until 9th grade HS season, and summer after 10th grade is when it really matters. Spent all summer at elite/AA games with my 2027 and never saw a single college coach so doubt they are interested in film from those games either.
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You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship

What do you mean partial? Full athletic scholarships don’t exist in the lacrosse world. And if you’re worried about that in 4th grade you’re a complete clown.

1) Exactly Partial ( Meaning part of ) never said full scholarship.

2) Never said I or anyone was thinking about college in 4th grade. I said middle school. That is exactly when you should be thinking about it. that's when you need to determine if your child is going to play at the next level. 8th grade summer going into 9th is a big year in starting to build your film 9th grade summer going into 10th is recruiting ( if you are top tier player)

3) I was giving my opinion on what I believe is 1 particular clubs thinking. They will always have 2 teams they will be making money. I believe (IMHO) that their focus is Recruiting. they care abut they younger teams but not nearly as much as the older teams.

Good response that makes sense to me. For 2) though, I've heard repeatedly from coaches (club, hs, college) that for recruiting nothing matters until 9th grade HS season, and summer after 10th grade is when it really matters. Spent all summer at elite/AA games with my 2027 and never saw a single college coach so doubt they are interested in film from those games either.

This is for the most part, correct. For high d1 summer after sophomore year and spring of sophomore year are most important. Though freshman spring and summer are important to get film and generate that “buzz”. No one cares before high school unless you are trying to get on a top 20 club
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You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship

What do you mean partial? Full athletic scholarships don’t exist in the lacrosse world. And if you’re worried about that in 4th grade you’re a complete clown.

1) Exactly Partial ( Meaning part of ) never said full scholarship.

2) Never said I or anyone was thinking about college in 4th grade. I said middle school. That is exactly when you should be thinking about it. that's when you need to determine if your child is going to play at the next level. 8th grade summer going into 9th is a big year in starting to build your film 9th grade summer going into 10th is recruiting ( if you are top tier player)

3) I was giving my opinion on what I believe is 1 particular clubs thinking. They will always have 2 teams they will be making money. I believe (IMHO) that their focus is Recruiting. they care abut they younger teams but not nearly as much as the older teams.

Good response that makes sense to me. For 2) though, I've heard repeatedly from coaches (club, hs, college) that for recruiting nothing matters until 9th grade HS season, and summer after 10th grade is when it really matters. Spent all summer at elite/AA games with my 2027 and never saw a single college coach so doubt they are interested in film from those games either.


8th grade summer going into 9th i think you need to be on the right team for you. meaning are you getting reps do you believe the team will be in the right showcases in the following years. Are you happy with the team and do you believe that this team and/or organization will help with recruiting The following year 9th grade going into 10th is extremely important I agree with 10th grade going into 11th is when it all happens. I believe you need to set yourself up for that
Fortunately this group has a lot of time before then
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship

All good points. I disagree with couple of them. 91 usually has very good youth teams. Pretty much all of their teams at every age are very good…..except 2031. This grad year is weird because the top 2 teams are igloo and rebels. The top teams for 91 and express are a big dropoff. Express historically doesn’t give a [Censored] about it’s youth teams. I think that’s the main reason no one has really jumped ship yet.

I think if there will be a lot of movement to 91 and express it will be after the World Series year(8th grade ) After the WS hoopla some kids may move to those clubs for the promise of better recruiting options. I would be wary of 91 for one reason. If there 31 team continues to not be competitive, they will just bring in studs from far away (FL, NC etc ). These kids just show up to tournaments and play a lot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Full Scholarships definitely exist, usually not first year. If a kids difference maker. With portal, have to keep kid/parents happy. Sometimes it’s half academic, grants, etc. I had 5 kids play college sports. 2 got full rides after freshman year. Those were both Lax. Most do not get, but they are out there. Saved over 400k in tuition because of sports.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship

All good points. I disagree with couple of them. 91 usually has very good youth teams. Pretty much all of their teams at every age are very good…..except 2031. This grad year is weird because the top 2 teams are igloo and rebels. The top teams for 91 and express are a big dropoff. Express historically doesn’t give a [Censored] about it’s youth teams. I think that’s the main reason no one has really jumped ship yet.

I think if there will be a lot of movement to 91 and express it will be after the World Series year(8th grade ) After the WS hoopla some kids may move to those clubs for the promise of better recruiting options. I would be wary of 91 for one reason. If there 31 team continues to not be competitive, they will just bring in studs from far away (FL, NC etc ). These kids just show up to tournaments and play a lot.

Igloo is still top 2 after not winning a single game at Hershey? Lost to NJ Express and both DMV teams. That’s the best that strong island has?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Full Scholarships definitely exist, usually not first year. If a kids difference maker. With portal, have to keep kid/parents happy. Sometimes it’s half academic, grants, etc. I had 5 kids play college sports. 2 got full rides after freshman year. Those were both Lax. Most do not get, but they are out there. Saved over 400k in tuition because of sports.

Yeah sure buddy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Any updated rankins
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New "Rankins"

Hoco Teams untouchable

1 - ML: Nobody can match this team, the best team by a wide margin
2 - NL
3 - Hawks

Second Tier

4 - 2 Way
5 - Sweetlax
6 - Igloo
7 - Crabs - merged with WPG
8 - Rebels
9 - BBL
10 - Eclipse

Third tier

11 - S2S
12 - Express East
13- Express LI
14 - Legacy
15 - 91
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Got number 1 and 15 right at least
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
91 tryouts were very lite. Since Rebels Beat Igloo last 3 Times, never lost to sweet Lax. Would move them up to 5. Plus beat 2 way couple weeks ago. still give 2-way nod, as they won other 2 times they played. S 2 S best after Rebels and Igloo. Pretty sure Express East fell apart.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
My crack at it from a Mid Atlantic Team that has seen a bunch of the 2031s

Tier 1: Would be great matchups between these 4 teams.
2Way
Madlax
Rebels
Hawks

Rebels has wins over both 2Way and ML, albeit the win over ML was a completely different team than the current version.

Tier 1A: Could or have knocked off Tier 1 squads
Igloo
NL
SweetLax Upstate
Crabs (post Wolfpack merger)
NJ Express

Tier 2:
BBL
Towermen
S2S
Dukes
MadDog West

Can't find anything on Laxachusetts 2031, but they normally produce high quality teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
91 and Express are in a bad place but based on past history it is doubtful that will last long. The Rebels win against ML is void, need to stop bringing that up as a point of contention. ML/Hawks have separated themselves from the pack. We are all hoping Rebels get invited to the NAL next year as it's time for them to see real lacrosse. Igloo got a good smack in the face in Hershey and at the NAL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Always a Rebels mom. Most classless lacrosse organization ever.

Rebels = [Censored]

If you’re at Rebels or thinking of joint Rebels, run the opposite direction. If no other team opportunities exist, pick a different sport.
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You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship

What do you mean partial? Full athletic scholarships don’t exist in the lacrosse world. And if you’re worried about that in 4th grade you’re a complete clown.

1) Exactly Partial ( Meaning part of ) never said full scholarship.

2) Never said I or anyone was thinking about college in 4th grade. I said middle school. That is exactly when you should be thinking about it. that's when you need to determine if your child is going to play at the next level. 8th grade summer going into 9th is a big year in starting to build your film 9th grade summer going into 10th is recruiting ( if you are top tier player)

3) I was giving my opinion on what I believe is 1 particular clubs thinking. They will always have 2 teams they will be making money. I believe (IMHO) that their focus is Recruiting. they care abut they younger teams but not nearly as much as the older teams.

If you think 8th grade is the benchmark year for college you’re clueless. There are kids who dominate in 8th and never see the field again. Slow down there slick.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Full Scholarships definitely exist, usually not first year. If a kids difference maker. With portal, have to keep kid/parents happy. Sometimes it’s half academic, grants, etc. I had 5 kids play college sports. 2 got full rides after freshman year. Those were both Lax. Most do not get, but they are out there. Saved over 400k in tuition because of sports.

There are no full athletic scholarships for lacrosse. None.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Full Scholarships definitely exist, usually not first year. If a kids difference maker. With portal, have to keep kid/parents happy. Sometimes it’s half academic, grants, etc. I had 5 kids play college sports. 2 got full rides after freshman year. Those were both Lax. Most do not get, but they are out there. Saved over 400k in tuition because of sports.

There are no full athletic scholarships for lacrosse. None.

Read the post. You are right. There are no full scholarships in lacrosse. But their are partial scholarships combined with academic awards that make it so it costs nothing or close to it. These obviously arent the norm but it happens more than you think. That’s why all the coaches preach good grades. If you excel in the classroom you have a good shot at getting a lot academic money combined with the partial lax scholarship
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
FULL SCHOLARSHIPS EXIST. Not many, but they do.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
New "Rankins"

Hoco Teams untouchable

1 - ML: Nobody can match this team, the best team by a wide margin
2 - NL
3 - Hawks

Second Tier

4 - 2 Way
5 - Sweetlax
6 - Igloo
7 - Crabs - merged with WPG
8 - Rebels
9 - BBL
10 - Eclipse

Third tier

11 - S2S
12 - Express East
13- Express LI
14 - Legacy
15 - 91
If all the top players from Wolfpack team went to crabs they could challenge ML.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Wait? Are you all talking about college scholarships AND 10 year old lacrosse?!!?? Yikes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FULL SCHOLARSHIPS EXIST. Not many, but they do.

Yell all you want slick, they don’t exist for anyone. The #2 recruit in the nation a few years ago didn’t get a full ride. It’s a lie, invest in tutors or expect to pay exactly what you would at a state school. That’s the rule.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Full rides 😂😂😂 this is 2023 not 2008!
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You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship

What do you mean partial? Full athletic scholarships don’t exist in the lacrosse world. And if you’re worried about that in 4th grade you’re a complete clown.

1) Exactly Partial ( Meaning part of ) never said full scholarship.

2) Never said I or anyone was thinking about college in 4th grade. I said middle school. That is exactly when you should be thinking about it. that's when you need to determine if your child is going to play at the next level. 8th grade summer going into 9th is a big year in starting to build your film 9th grade summer going into 10th is recruiting ( if you are top tier player)

3) I was giving my opinion on what I believe is 1 particular clubs thinking. They will always have 2 teams they will be making money. I believe (IMHO) that their focus is Recruiting. they care abut they younger teams but not nearly as much as the older teams.

If you think 8th grade is the benchmark year for college you’re clueless. There are kids who dominate in 8th and never see the field again. Slow down there slick.


I agree and disagree with you. Yes there are kids who will drop off and there are kids who will come out of nowhere and be really good after 8th grade. I do believe the majority of the best skilled players in 8th grade remain in the top tier Open inside lacrosse. The 1st article is about rising sophomore and freshman (rising freshman that is 8th grade) I know college coaches are not watching these kids but I agree with the poster from above when they said the following

‘ 8th grade summer going into 9th i think you need to be on the right team for you. meaning are you getting reps do you believe the team will be in the right showcases in the following years. Are you happy with the team and do you believe that this team and/or organization will help with recruiting The following year 9th grade going into 10th is extremely important I agree with 10th grade going into 11th is when it all happens. I believe you need to set yourself up for that
Fortunately this group has a lot of time before then “
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
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You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship

What do you mean partial? Full athletic scholarships don’t exist in the lacrosse world. And if you’re worried about that in 4th grade you’re a complete clown.

1) Exactly Partial ( Meaning part of ) never said full scholarship.

2) Never said I or anyone was thinking about college in 4th grade. I said middle school. That is exactly when you should be thinking about it. that's when you need to determine if your child is going to play at the next level. 8th grade summer going into 9th is a big year in starting to build your film 9th grade summer going into 10th is recruiting ( if you are top tier player)

3) I was giving my opinion on what I believe is 1 particular clubs thinking. They will always have 2 teams they will be making money. I believe (IMHO) that their focus is Recruiting. they care abut they younger teams but not nearly as much as the older teams.

If you think 8th grade is the benchmark year for college you’re clueless. There are kids who dominate in 8th and never see the field again. Slow down there slick.


I agree and disagree with you. Yes there are kids who will drop off and there are kids who will come out of nowhere and be really good after 8th grade. I do believe the majority of the best skilled players in 8th grade remain in the top tier Open inside lacrosse. The 1st article is about rising sophomore and freshman (rising freshman that is 8th grade) I know college coaches are not watching these kids but I agree with the poster from above when they said the following

‘ 8th grade summer going into 9th i think you need to be on the right team for you. meaning are you getting reps do you believe the team will be in the right showcases in the following years. Are you happy with the team and do you believe that this team and/or organization will help with recruiting The following year 9th grade going into 10th is extremely important I agree with 10th grade going into 11th is when it all happens. I believe you need to set yourself up for that
Fortunately this group has a lot of time before then “

Which college coach that you “know” is watching? I’ll wait
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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You have to stop living in the PAST. NOBODYS going to 91, Maybe a few to Express. Igloo and Rebels are the Future. You all Said same thing 2 years ago. Igloo and rebels have only got better. 91 is a Dinosaur.


Didn’t look like the past this weekend at Lehigh.

No one can deny how good they are at the older age group. It’s just right now they are really bad at this age group. I heard their tryouts didn’t have a lot of kids from other program or a ton of talent at there. They better start recruiting fast.

Time will tell. I’ve been around club lacrosse for years. I was a coach on one of the big clubs for a bunch of years before my kids were born. Before 91 and Express ruled there were other clubs. LI usually had 4 good teams 2 great and 2 that could comply with the best of them. The landscape changes every decade. I think 91 will be around I think they care more about the HS teams They seem to care more about recruiting than fielding dominant teams at the younger ages now. They are very active around 8th or 9th grade. Offering kids reduced or free tuition to play. I believe their philosophy is as long as we keep getting kids recruited we will be fine. So parents who have a kid that doesn’t get much play time. Gets on the field but not a too player that is on igloo, rebels or any other club, will try and move their kid to 91 around 7 th grade in hopes that the kid gets more play time. Their thinking will be if he is there at that age they will take care of him. But 91 will go after the top players from other clubs offer free tuition. The kid that moved in 7th grade will be left behind while he pays full tuition People will keep going to them with the hopes of landing a partial college scholarship

What do you mean partial? Full athletic scholarships don’t exist in the lacrosse world. And if you’re worried about that in 4th grade you’re a complete clown.

1) Exactly Partial ( Meaning part of ) never said full scholarship.

2) Never said I or anyone was thinking about college in 4th grade. I said middle school. That is exactly when you should be thinking about it. that's when you need to determine if your child is going to play at the next level. 8th grade summer going into 9th is a big year in starting to build your film 9th grade summer going into 10th is recruiting ( if you are top tier player)

3) I was giving my opinion on what I believe is 1 particular clubs thinking. They will always have 2 teams they will be making money. I believe (IMHO) that their focus is Recruiting. they care abut they younger teams but not nearly as much as the older teams.

If you think 8th grade is the benchmark year for college you’re clueless. There are kids who dominate in 8th and never see the field again. Slow down there slick.


I agree and disagree with you. Yes there are kids who will drop off and there are kids who will come out of nowhere and be really good after 8th grade. I do believe the majority of the best skilled players in 8th grade remain in the top tier Open inside lacrosse. The 1st article is about rising sophomore and freshman (rising freshman that is 8th grade) I know college coaches are not watching these kids but I agree with the poster from above when they said the following

‘ 8th grade summer going into 9th i think you need to be on the right team for you. meaning are you getting reps do you believe the team will be in the right showcases in the following years. Are you happy with the team and do you believe that this team and/or organization will help with recruiting The following year 9th grade going into 10th is extremely important I agree with 10th grade going into 11th is when it all happens. I believe you need to set yourself up for that
Fortunately this group has a lot of time before then “

Which college coach that you “know” is watching? I’ll wait

I believe it says “ I know college coaches are NOT WATCHING THESE KIDS’
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
I saw Duke scouts at the Rebels 2031 last tourney
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I saw Duke scouts at the Rebels 2031 last tourney
I saw them too but it was a PLL scout with a Duke hat.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Which teams are going to the fall NAL?
All kids that don’t play enough or at all
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Igloo picking up alot of B players, were did their top players go? Express?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Igloo hasn’t lost anyone of significance. They are a top team on LI at 2031. Stop the BS. Why would their top kids goto a worse team with bad coaching?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
None of Igloo’s Winter Soldiers AA’s team top players have left. The core group has stayed and are loyal to a strong program that cares about their players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Ha! What a joke… Tony Tantrums doesn’t care about your kid. He cares about his wallet. Outside of his older son, who has he helped get into college? Ask someone on the 23, 24, 25 teams. They’ll give you the answer! Stop fooling yourself. Wake up! 2031 will disband soon enough, but keep telling yourself you have a great team and great coaching! Hahaha!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Top kids stayed, too bad. Should have added top kids. Say Igloo #4-5 next year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo hasn’t lost anyone of significance. They are a top team on LI at 2031. Stop the BS. Why would their top kids goto a worse team with bad coaching?

Is this the same Igloo that didn’t win a single game at Hershey? Is LI really that weak at 2031 that they’re a top team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
I am going a lot off topic here but curious on your thoughts - do the best athletes/lacrosse players in the 5th grade mean they will be the best in the 10th? How important is player development at the club matter versus the time and the practice kids do on their own? Or does it not matter at all and that when these kids go through puberty will the differences show between a good athlete and a great one? My son is 10. He just wants to play lacrosse and have fun with his friends but sometimes I feel like club has taken the fun out of it. Why can’t the town leagues play year round and against other town leagues? I get playing against tougher competition but does it really matter in grade school? My kids all play for different clubs and I wonder why I do this. I want them to be part of a team and worry if I don’t start the sport now they won’t make their high school team. Club was created in part for college recruiting so why are 3rd graders doing it? And at the end of the day, it’s the top 1/3 of the roster of the top 50 club / lacrosse high school that gets recruited anyway.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Express not getting Igloo kids . The Igloo program is as strong as ever. Top teams all over! Soldiers added some top kids from other clubs. Wait until Fall to pound your chest!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Fake News. Igloo didn't upgrade at all. They still [Censored]. Rebels, 2way and Hoco will smoke them this year. Wounded Soldiers come next summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Rebels director can say what he wants about every other club. Let’s be honest, Rebels wear red for a reason, they are the red headed stepchild of Long Island youth Lacrosse. They will never been seen as a reputable organization…no matter how many times you post.

Let’s call it like it is, this is youth Lacrosse. It’s about the kids and building this great sport - stop ranking 10 year old teams, bragging how good you are. The loudest man in the room is usually the weakest. If your club is that good you don’t have to come on here and tell everyone. No other clubs are selling themselves here, get it! They don’t have to.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
We are new to travel lacrosse. My son was one of the stronger players on his club team and then just got cut in tryouts. Can’t get feedback from the coaches too. What do we do now when it seems like all teams have full rosters. We didn’t have him tryout for any other team bc we were confident he would make this club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are new to travel lacrosse. My son was one of the stronger players on his club team and then just got cut in tryouts. Can’t get feedback from the coaches too. What do we do now when it seems like all teams have full rosters. We didn’t have him tryout for any other team bc we were confident he would make this club.

Call and email clubs to see if they are having supplemental try outs. There are always a few smaller clubs that are in need of player to fill out rosters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are new to travel lacrosse. My son was one of the stronger players on his club team and then just got cut in tryouts. Can’t get feedback from the coaches too. What do we do now when it seems like all teams have full rosters. We didn’t have him tryout for any other team bc we were confident he would make this club.

Sorry to hear this; if your son was on an A team then it will be very hard to crack an existing A team club unless you know someone. If he was on a B team then there area plenty of options in the sea.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Turtles have a supplemental tryout this week. Good club, with a good location, might be worth a look.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles have a supplemental tryout this week. Good club, with a good location, might be worth a look.

Turtles are not a good club, very doubtful they fill a team at this age. They just fill teams with anyone they possibly can
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles have a supplemental tryout this week. Good club, with a good location, might be worth a look.

Turtles are not a good club, very doubtful they fill a team at this age. They just fill teams with anyone they possibly can
New directors are very motivated. Just need kids
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Turtles are extinct. Any good player with them, should find a better team. Only true AA clubs are Rebels and igloo. S2S and maybe Express East A. 91 and rest B at best
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Turtles are now being run by kids, it’s a hobby. Not where anyone who wants to have a real lacrosse experience goes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Rankings 2023/24 Pre Season as per NLF/NAL/US Club/SOS/with

Top Group

Igloo
Rebels
Express East

Middle Tier

S2S
Legacy
Express

Lower Tier

91
Rush
BTB
Turtles
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Those ain’t no Rankins
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
The DMV owns these rankins. Madlax still top, followed by NL and Hawks. Crabs now on the scene with WP dismantle. Igloo/Rebels have no shot. Can't wait for the NAL.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Turtles are now being run by kids, it’s a hobby. Not where anyone who wants to have a real lacrosse experience goes.

They’re just little boys playing a game, it’s not going to be a real lacrosse experience regardless. Let them have fun and stop
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The DMV owns these rankins. Madlax still top, followed by NL and Hawks. Crabs now on the scene with WP dismantle. Igloo/Rebels have no shot. Can't wait for the NAL.

Terrible take
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am going a lot off topic here but curious on your thoughts - do the best athletes/lacrosse players in the 5th grade mean they will be the best in the 10th? How important is player development at the club matter versus the time and the practice kids do on their own? Or does it not matter at all and that when these kids go through puberty will the differences show between a good athlete and a great one? My son is 10. He just wants to play lacrosse and have fun with his friends but sometimes I feel like club has taken the fun out of it. Why can’t the town leagues play year round and against other town leagues? I get playing against tougher competition but does it really matter in grade school? My kids all play for different clubs and I wonder why I do this. I want them to be part of a team and worry if I don’t start the sport now they won’t make their high school team. Club was created in part for college recruiting so why are 3rd graders doing it? And at the end of the day, it’s the top 1/3 of the roster of the top 50 club / lacrosse high school that gets recruited anyway.

Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am going a lot off topic here but curious on your thoughts - do the best athletes/lacrosse players in the 5th grade mean they will be the best in the 10th? How important is player development at the club matter versus the time and the practice kids do on their own? Or does it not matter at all and that when these kids go through puberty will the differences show between a good athlete and a great one? My son is 10. He just wants to play lacrosse and have fun with his friends but sometimes I feel like club has taken the fun out of it. Why can’t the town leagues play year round and against other town leagues? I get playing against tougher competition but does it really matter in grade school? My kids all play for different clubs and I wonder why I do this. I want them to be part of a team and worry if I don’t start the sport now they won’t make their high school team. Club was created in part for college recruiting so why are 3rd graders doing it? And at the end of the day, it’s the top 1/3 of the roster of the top 50 club / lacrosse high school that gets recruited anyway.

Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck!


This post is spot on. A good example -- take a look at pretty much any Crabs team over the past 5 years. Only 2-3 players that are on a Crabs 4th grade team will still on the team in 8th grade. The kids with a love and passion will always come out on top.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Boring…. Let’s get back to the topic at hand, who is better Rebels or Igloo? Who makes it to 7th grade without a total dismantle? Can either compete against the DMV?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
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Boring…. Let’s get back to the topic at hand, who is better Rebels or Igloo? Who makes it to 7th grade without a total dismantle? Can either compete against the DMV?

Rebels will manage to blow it.
Look at their older teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Boring…. Let’s get back to the topic at hand, who is better Rebels or Igloo? Who makes it to 7th grade without a total dismantle? Can either compete against the DMV?

Rebels will manage to blow it.
Look at their older teams

Aren't they a fairly new club? How many teams will they have this year? They have an east and west? If thier older clubs are bad it must be because they are a new club, by 6-7th grade teams are pretty much set with minimal movement no?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Rebels only got better this off season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck![/quote]


Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Where are the fall schedules? It's August 10 let's go organizations, I want to plan life lol!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck!


Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now![/quote]

You are saying the elite kids in 4th grade are a good predictor for the elite kids as juniors and seniors? Wow. Just wow. I guess your message to the kids is if you aren’t elite by 4th grade but you want to play high level college lacrosse you might as well give up. Good lesson for life. I’m going to go out on a limb and say skill level at the 4th grade level is a poor prognostic indicator of future success. That being said I also don’t agree that todays elites will plateau; some will go on to be very good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
As with most arguments on this site, the truth is firmly in the middle. An elite athlete in the 4th grade will usually still be an elite athlete in HS and beyond. That may or may not translate to the field depending on their commitment and lax IQ. The best PLAYERS in 4th grade frequently aren't the elite athletes though. Watching my older son I've seen many of the top players fade out and move down to lower level teams. Over time everyone develops core skills and pure athleticism drowns out much of the skill differences.

With that said, an elite athlete in 4th grade that is also already a top player, will rarely fade away unless they choose to focus on another sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As with most arguments on this site, the truth is firmly in the middle. An elite athlete in the 4th grade will usually still be an elite athlete in HS and beyond. That may or may not translate to the field depending on their commitment and lax IQ. The best PLAYERS in 4th grade frequently aren't the elite athletes though. Watching my older son I've seen many of the top players fade out and move down to lower level teams. Over time everyone develops core skills and pure athleticism drowns out much of the skill differences.

With that said, an elite athlete in 4th grade that is also already a top player, will rarely fade away unless they choose to focus on another sport.

Agree completely
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Boring…. Let’s get back to the topic at hand, who is better Rebels or Igloo? Who makes it to 7th grade without a total dismantle? Can either compete against the DMV?

Rebels will manage to blow it.
Look at their older teams

Aren't they a fairly new club? How many teams will they have this year? They have an east and west? If thier older clubs are bad it must be because they are a new club, by 6-7th grade teams are pretty much set with minimal movement no?


And somehow their older teams are still good and get lots of D1 kids…. And they only started 4 years ago
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Rebels team is decent but relies heavily on two kids. Once those two leave for 91 it’s over. Are you guys brothers? Rebels fall short by 7th grade. Not aware of any relevant D1 commits on their older teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Rebels added the Top kids from 91, Legacy and express east. So, theory of Rebels leaving is way off. Parents get it. Those clubs are the past. REBELS the future. See you in fall, if you dare.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Fake news. Rebels parent pounding their chest over two brothers who are the whole team. The rest of the kids watch and don’t develop. Model doesn’t work and they will dismantle by next season. Going to be a tough year for the rebels.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Rebels parent pounding their chest over two brothers who are the whole team. The rest of the kids watch and don’t develop. Model doesn’t work and they will dismantle by next season. Going to be a tough year for the rebels.

Interesting take considering one of the twins was injured all summer. You couldn’t be farther from truth, the team is deep and wears other teams down. Played tournaments this summer missing keep players, and team did not miss a beat.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck!


Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!

You are saying the elite kids in 4th grade are a good predictor for the elite kids as juniors and seniors? Wow. Just wow. I guess your message to the kids is if you aren’t elite by 4th grade but you want to play high level college lacrosse you might as well give up. Good lesson for life. I’m going to go out on a limb and say skill level at the 4th grade level is a poor prognostic indicator of future success. That being said I also don’t agree that todays elites will plateau; some will go on to be very good.[/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck!


Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!

You are saying the elite kids in 4th grade are a good predictor for the elite kids as juniors and seniors? Wow. Just wow. I guess your message to the kids is if you aren’t elite by 4th grade but you want to play high level college lacrosse you might as well give up. Good lesson for life. I’m going to go out on a limb and say skill level at the 4th grade level is a poor prognostic indicator of future success. That being said I also don’t agree that todays elites will plateau; some will go on to be very good.[/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck!


Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!

You are saying the elite kids in 4th grade are a good predictor for the elite kids as juniors and seniors? Wow. Just wow. I guess your message to the kids is if you aren’t elite by 4th grade but you want to play high level college lacrosse you might as well give up. Good lesson for life. I’m going to go out on a limb and say skill level at the 4th grade level is a poor prognostic indicator of future success. That being said I also don’t agree that todays elites will plateau; some will go on to be very good.[/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck!


Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!

You are saying the elite kids in 4th grade are a good predictor for the elite kids as juniors and seniors? Wow. Just wow. I guess your message to the kids is if you aren’t elite by 4th grade but you want to play high level college lacrosse you might as well give up. Good lesson for life. I’m going to go out on a limb and say skill level at the 4th grade level is a poor prognostic indicator of future success. That being said I also don’t agree that todays elites will plateau; some will go on to be very good.[/quote]


4th/5th grade is a good indication. Not end all be all but definitely good indicator.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Rebels parent pounding their chest over two brothers who are the whole team. The rest of the kids watch and don’t develop. Model doesn’t work and they will dismantle by next season. Going to be a tough year for the rebels.

Interesting take considering one of the twins was injured all summer. You couldn’t be farther from truth, the team is deep and wears other teams down. Played tournaments this summer missing keep players, and team did not miss a beat.
Yes, Rebels have 2 sets of Sibling twins!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck!


Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!

You are saying the elite kids in 4th grade are a good predictor for the elite kids as juniors and seniors? Wow. Just wow. I guess your message to the kids is if you aren’t elite by 4th grade but you want to play high level college lacrosse you might as well give up. Good lesson for life. I’m going to go out on a limb and say skill level at the 4th grade level is a poor prognostic indicator of future success. That being said I also don’t agree that todays elites will plateau; some will go on to be very good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck!


Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!

You are saying the elite kids in 4th grade are a good predictor for the elite kids as juniors and seniors? Wow. Just wow. I guess your message to the kids is if you aren’t elite by 4th grade but you want to play high level college lacrosse you might as well give up. Good lesson for life. I’m going to go out on a limb and say skill level at the 4th grade level is a poor prognostic indicator of future success. That being said I also don’t agree that todays elites will plateau; some will go on to be very good.[/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck!


Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!

You are saying the elite kids in 4th grade are a good predictor for the elite kids as juniors and seniors? Wow. Just wow. I guess your message to the kids is if you aren’t elite by 4th grade but you want to play high level college lacrosse you might as well give up. Good lesson for life. I’m going to go out on a limb and say skill level at the 4th grade level is a poor prognostic indicator of future success. That being said I also don’t agree that todays elites will plateau; some will go on to be very good.[/quote]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Today’s elites will plateau and most will catch up or surpass them over the next 5 years. Puberty hits HARD, good or bad so thinking a 10 year old is an elite lax player or a subpar one is completely pointless. Everything changes, tons of team movement over the next several years so teams change constantly. If you think club is taking away the fun… I suggest you look for another club. He could also just play PAL and will still likely make the school team in a few years. It should be fun, hard work but still fun. Otherwise why spend the time & money? The kids with a love and passion for the sport will always come out on top. I will say that ANY kid who wants to play in college absolutely can. Between DI, DII, DIII, NAIA, JUCO and club, there is a place for every skill level. Kids have one childhood, make it an enjoyable one! Good luck!


Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!

You are saying the elite kids in 4th grade are a good predictor for the elite kids as juniors and seniors? Wow. Just wow. I guess your message to the kids is if you aren’t elite by 4th grade but you want to play high level college lacrosse you might as well give up. Good lesson for life. I’m going to go out on a limb and say skill level at the 4th grade level is a poor prognostic indicator of future success. That being said I also don’t agree that todays elites will plateau; some will go on to be very good.[/quote]


4th/5th grade is a good indication. Not end all be all but definitely good indicator.[/quote]

It’s a poor predictor. It s great running head start but some max out because they stopped growing. Puberty tends to be the great equalizer. And then there’s the burnout as plenty so as well. Would I rather be elite in 4th grade? Sure. Bu by no means does it have a good positive predictive value on one’s future.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Rebels parent pounding their chest over two brothers who are the whole team. The rest of the kids watch and don’t develop. Model doesn’t work and they will dismantle by next season. Going to be a tough year for the rebels.

You obviously haven’t seen them play much. The reason why they are successful is because they have depth. If the twins were the only reason they won it would be easy to put your best defenders on them and beat them. The people that are saying 91 and express are finished are silly. Those programs are top tier and will continue to be. It’s just at this particular age group the Rebels have a great team. That’s it. None of the top players left for other programs this year. Whether that continues remains to be seen. Best of luck to everyone this fall
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Where is everyone playing this fall?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Rebels have solid team probably best on Island. Be interesting to see who th ehhh add/lose. Same with Igloo, too team on island, one or two additions can make a big difference. 91 needs to be competitive and start playing better teams. Legacy , I don’t know why they are having such a hard time. Express East has some talent and very good coaching . Express goi g to get better as the kids get older but starting off on ground floor. S2S again has a lot of talent, not quite sure why they haven’t taken a step yet.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is everyone playing this fall?
anyone playing Fall NAL?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Rebels not invited to NAL. Another season of them skipping meaningful tourneys and bragging about beating igloo and the turtles.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
If NAL does not invite rebels, shame on them. They would win it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
They didn’t invite them because they cheat!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
That has to be densest post ever, got to have better than that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They didn’t invite them because they cheat!

Keep trying to spread nonsense
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If NAL does not invite rebels, shame on them. They would win it.
Don't know if they'd win it but they would have a good chance of making the first consolation bracket.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Rebels cheerleaders need a reality check. Hope they get invited to the spring NAL. DMV would rattle their cages.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
What does DMV have to do with NAL! These kids aren’t even old enough to drive yet!😂
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Your right, the DMV holdbacks do not get license till 9th Grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your right, the DMV holdbacks do not get license till 9th Grade.

All the "DMV" clubs are using the age rules. What's going to be the LI excuse now? Maybe LI clubs should create an Allstar team to compete with the HOCO teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
If your 4th grader is a good lacrosse player that’s great, now if you’re 5,7” and your wife is 5’0”, your kid is going to be a runt, and by the time he’s in 11th grade he will have been run out of the sport. Likewise if your kid is a bit chubby, he’ll probably balloon up and also be gone. Just facts people, nothing personal.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your 4th grader is a good lacrosse player that’s great, now if you’re 5,7” and your wife is 5’0”, your kid is going to be a runt, and by the time he’s in 11th grade he will have been run out of the sport. Likewise if your kid is a bit chubby, he’ll probably balloon up and also be gone. Just facts people, nothing personal.


I doubt this. Yes the trend is to go with the bigger kids. But D1 lacrosse is filled with small guys. I will use the young man that just completed his freshman year at duke. I know the kid well. He is listed at 5-9. He is shorter than that. Maybe with his cleats and helmet he is 5-9. That kid was always the smallest kid on the field. As a freshman at Duke he started almost every game. Did very well for a freshman. They also have a midfielder from Long Island that was. Sophomore this past year. He is a hair taller than the freshman. Both are very successful. You can look at just about every roster. There is someone who is small that contributes. If you have stick skills and speed you will be fine. Don’t let this guy dictate what you become
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your 4th grader is a good lacrosse player that’s great, now if you’re 5,7” and your wife is 5’0”, your kid is going to be a runt, and by the time he’s in 11th grade he will have been run out of the sport. Likewise if your kid is a bit chubby, he’ll probably balloon up and also be gone. Just facts people, nothing personal.
And the award for the most insecure dad on the group goes to this guy^
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Size helps, of course. But strength and speed matter a lot. ALL HS and colleges puff up the size of their players. But for the record, Ryder Garnsey is 173lbs. Sowers is 168 lbs. Will Manny is 170lbs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Clarifying question- what if I’m 6’1” and my wife is 5’2” but a professional athlete? Should my kid just quit now? [Censored]…
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Where are Madax and Hawks this fall. Rebels are coming for U. No competition on Island. They got better and every kid is age eligible. Set up a 8 Team tourney with your best, 2 Way etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Maryland stop your talking and lets go.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are Madax and Hawks this fall. Rebels are coming for U. No competition on Island. They got better and every kid is age eligible. Set up a 8 Team tourney with your best, 2 Way etc.


It’s already set up. All Rebels have to do is show up to NAL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Rebels don’t get invited to top tourneys. If you want to play them you have to go to a B tourney in Long Island.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your 4th grader is a good lacrosse player that’s great, now if you’re 5,7” and your wife is 5’0”, your kid is going to be a runt, and by the time he’s in 11th grade he will have been run out of the sport. Likewise if your kid is a bit chubby, he’ll probably balloon up and also be gone. Just facts people, nothing personal.
And the award for the most insecure dad on the group goes to this guy^

Seems a nerve was struck, let me guess you’re 5”5”?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your 4th grader is a good lacrosse player that’s great, now if you’re 5,7” and your wife is 5’0”, your kid is going to be a runt, and by the time he’s in 11th grade he will have been run out of the sport. Likewise if your kid is a bit chubby, he’ll probably balloon up and also be gone. Just facts people, nothing personal.


I doubt this. Yes the trend is to go with the bigger kids. But D1 lacrosse is filled with small guys. I will use the young man that just completed his freshman year at duke. I know the kid well. He is listed at 5-9. He is shorter than that. Maybe with his cleats and helmet he is 5-9. That kid was always the smallest kid on the field. As a freshman at Duke he started almost every game. Did very well for a freshman. They also have a midfielder from Long Island that was. Sophomore this past year. He is a hair taller than the freshman. Both are very successful. You can look at just about every roster. There is someone who is small that contributes. If you have stick skills and speed you will be fine. Don’t let this guy dictate what you become

Filled? Hardly, the little guys are a dime a dozen. You can believe what makes you feel better, but the truth will set you free. Sorry for all you short fellas, but it’s facts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Clarifying question- what if I’m 6’1” and my wife is 5’2” but a professional athlete? Should my kid just quit now? [Censored]…

Yes
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your 4th grader is a good lacrosse player that’s great, now if you’re 5,7” and your wife is 5’0”, your kid is going to be a runt, and by the time he’s in 11th grade he will have been run out of the sport. Likewise if your kid is a bit chubby, he’ll probably balloon up and also be gone. Just facts people, nothing personal.


I doubt this. Yes the trend is to go with the bigger kids. But D1 lacrosse is filled with small guys. I will use the young man that just completed his freshman year at duke. I know the kid well. He is listed at 5-9. He is shorter than that. Maybe with his cleats and helmet he is 5-9. That kid was always the smallest kid on the field. As a freshman at Duke he started almost every game. Did very well for a freshman. They also have a midfielder from Long Island that was. Sophomore this past year. He is a hair taller than the freshman. Both are very successful. You can look at just about every roster. There is someone who is small that contributes. If you have stick skills and speed you will be fine. Don’t let this guy dictate what you become


There will always be little guys that succeed but it is not usually the norm, at least at the very highest levels of d1. There’s a few small standouts and a lot more small role players but size and speed seems to be the small majority of the sport. Especially at the dpole position. People will point to Adler saying that small guys can play but not a lot of alders out there.

That being sad don’t give up. There may be a role for your smallish guy on a top team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your 4th grader is a good lacrosse player that’s great, now if you’re 5,7” and your wife is 5’0”, your kid is going to be a runt, and by the time he’s in 11th grade he will have been run out of the sport. Likewise if your kid is a bit chubby, he’ll probably balloon up and also be gone. Just facts people, nothing personal.


You are messed up and seriously scary being a parent. Coming from a parent of tall athletes, one being a D1 commit, there are incredible college lacrosse athletes on the shorter side. Having speed and great stick skills wins out in the end. Advice to poster - get therapy now so you don’t further mess up your kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
“Bit Chubby!” That’s aggressive, fat shaming kids on BOTC. Let’s keep it classy San Diego.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your 4th grader is a good lacrosse player that’s great, now if you’re 5,7” and your wife is 5’0”, your kid is going to be a runt, and by the time he’s in 11th grade he will have been run out of the sport. Likewise if your kid is a bit chubby, he’ll probably balloon up and also be gone. Just facts people, nothing personal.


You are messed up and seriously scary being a parent. Coming from a parent of tall athletes, one being a D1 commit, there are incredible college lacrosse athletes on the shorter side. Having speed and great stick skills wins out in the end. Advice to poster - get therapy now so you don’t further mess up your kids.

All good on my end friend, but doubting your “tall tale” more than likely you’re a tad under the average size of an American male and have no D1 children. But thanks for your concern shorty.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your 4th grader is a good lacrosse player that’s great, now if you’re 5,7” and your wife is 5’0”, your kid is going to be a runt, and by the time he’s in 11th grade he will have been run out of the sport. Likewise if your kid is a bit chubby, he’ll probably balloon up and also be gone. Just facts people, nothing personal.
And the award for the most insecure dad on the group goes to this guy^

Seems a nerve was struck, let me guess you’re 5”5”?
No nerve struck. I'm just able to pinpoint insecure losers. And you my friend, are the definition. Probably been a huge BadPerson your whole life. How bout you worry less about the short guys out-working, out-hustling your kid and be a better example for your own. Dads who focus on a 10 year old's height or weight must've been severely unloved as a child themselves. We can all read this, and see what a joke you are dude. And you know what, I'll take a bet your giant of a son is a BadPerson just like you. There will come a time when your son is sitting on the bench, and a short king takes his spot. Not because of size, because of attitude.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
This sounds like a disgruntled rebels parent who needs a pair of stilettos to see over the players. Grow up Napoleon .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This sounds like a disgruntled rebels parent who needs a pair of stilettos to see over the players. Grow up Napoleon .
How so?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your 4th grader is a good lacrosse player that’s great, now if you’re 5,7” and your wife is 5’0”, your kid is going to be a runt, and by the time he’s in 11th grade he will have been run out of the sport. Likewise if your kid is a bit chubby, he’ll probably balloon up and also be gone. Just facts people, nothing personal.
And the award for the most insecure dad on the group goes to this guy^

Seems a nerve was struck, let me guess you’re 5”5”?
No nerve struck. I'm just able to pinpoint insecure losers. And you my friend, are the definition. Probably been a huge BadPerson your whole life. How bout you worry less about the short guys out-working, out-hustling your kid and be a better example for your own. Dads who focus on a 10 year old's height or weight must've been severely unloved as a child themselves. We can all read this, and see what a joke you are dude. And you know what, I'll take a bet your giant of a son is a BadPerson just like you. There will come a time when your son is sitting on the bench, and a short king takes his spot. Not because of size, because of attitude.

You have got to be a really short chubby dude, you’re way to angry. But calling a kid a BadPerson is pretty weak. Who’s the shining example of fatherhood here? Nice job there short and fat, keep being classy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This sounds like a disgruntled rebels parent who needs a pair of stilettos to see over the players. Grow up Napoleon .
How so?

Because he’s either really really small or really fat to be so insanely defensive. It’s an uncomfortable truth that the coaches are going to look past your small or overweight kid at the taller kids. It’s a fact, HS coaches want bigger kids, college coaches aren’t recruiting 5’5” players unless they’re unbelievably talented. Do you really believe once kids get into HS and college your cute little “Rudy” moment is going to mean anything? Your undersized kid is going to get smoked, and the coach is taking him off the field. Sorry, but it’s true. That’s why so angry and calling kids names, you’re facing a very difficult truth.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This sounds like a disgruntled rebels parent who needs a pair of stilettos to see over the players. Grow up Napoleon .
How so?

Because he’s either really really small or really fat to be so insanely defensive. It’s an uncomfortable truth that the coaches are going to look past your small or overweight kid at the taller kids. It’s a fact, HS coaches want bigger kids, college coaches aren’t recruiting 5’5” players unless they’re unbelievably talented. Do you really believe once kids get into HS and college your cute little “Rudy” moment is going to mean anything? Your undersized kid is going to get smoked, and the coach is taking him off the field. Sorry, but it’s true. That’s why so angry and calling kids names, you’re facing a very difficult truth.

No [Censored], how is it that you say it’s a rebel parent? All rebels parents are small? I’m lost lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!

lmao
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!

lmao

I know right? Good to know everyone’s destiny has been decided. Anyone not elite at this age, put down the stick and find a different sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Couldn’t disagree with this take anymore. Great athletes don’t pop up out of the blue. This isn’t football where puberty/size might make a big difference. The ELITE kids now will absolutely be the top kids 7/8 years from now!

lmao

I know right? Good to know everyone’s destiny has been decided. Anyone not elite at this age, put down the stick and find a different sport.

Just wait until Sophmore/Junior year when football kids are recruited for lax by the varsity coach and take over the field.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
By sophomore year the rebels 2031 team will be the best in the country. They are all elite athletes now and that won’t change in 5 years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Yeah right! Like their 2022 team and all those kids rode the bench their first college season!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Wait and see. This Rebels 31 team is special. World Series in two years will be a layup victory for them. Mark my words
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wait and see. This Rebels 31 team is special. World Series in two years will be a layup victory for them. Mark my words

Rebels parents and coaches have been popping their jerseys across all age groups for years now. Rebels fill a nice niche of that B+ club ball but please, for goodness sake, win something, in any age group, before anyone posts how great they are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wait and see. This Rebels 31 team is special. World Series in two years will be a layup victory for them. Mark my words

Rebels parents and coaches have been popping their jerseys across all age groups for years now. Rebels fill a nice niche of that B+ club ball but please, for goodness sake, win something, in any age group, before anyone posts how great they are.

Rebels are happy being the Rebels. Leave it be.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Why are parents so obsessed with other clubs? I can see if you have actually played on said other clubs not just vs them. IMO this should be LI VS here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Team 91!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yeah right! Like their 2022 team and all those kids rode the bench their first college season!

Ahhhhh, the dude who knows nothing about college athletics has put his opinion out there. As everyone knows, opinions are like…….
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
East is Daddy ball 100#. A coaches kid is always on the field. They are not coached to win. If they were coached effectively they could given stealth a run for their $. They carried 14 midfielders and recruited 2 PAL midfielders.

In doing so, they eventually pissed the 5 kids down the the B team and succeeded in kissing off Al the B team in June with the former AA kids. The guy lies incessantly, a nice guy though. All the parents wonder every game is he going to do what he says…he never does. Waste of time!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East is Daddy ball 100#. A coaches kid is always on the field. They are not coached to win. If they were coached effectively they could given stealth a run for their $. They carried 14 midfielders and recruited 2 PAL midfielders.

In doing so, they eventually pissed the 5 kids down the the B team and succeeded in kissing off Al the B team in June with the former AA kids. The guy lies incessantly, a nice guy though. All the parents wonder every game is he going to do what he says…he never does. Waste of time!
What club team is this?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East is Daddy ball 100#. A coaches kid is always on the field. They are not coached to win. If they were coached effectively they could given stealth a run for their $. They carried 14 midfielders and recruited 2 PAL midfielders.

In doing so, they eventually pissed the 5 kids down the the B team and succeeded in kissing off Al the B team in June with the former AA kids. The guy lies incessantly, a nice guy though. All the parents wonder every game is he going to do what he says…he never does. Waste of time!
What club team is this?

Express East. Sounds like this is a parent of a kid who was sent down to the B team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Express East
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Definitely not, unfortunately for my time expenditure my kids HS is not Ward Melville: yet another nonsensical aspect to east.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East is Daddy ball 100#. A coaches kid is always on the field. They are not coached to win. If they were coached effectively they could given stealth a run for their $. They carried 14 midfielders and recruited 2 PAL midfielders.

In doing so, they eventually pissed the 5 kids down the the B team and succeeded in kissing off Al the B team in June with the former AA kids. The guy lies incessantly, a nice guy though. All the parents wonder every game is he going to do what he says…he never does. Waste of time!
What club team is this?

Express East. Sounds like this is a parent of a kid who was sent down to the B team.

A teAms B teams, who cares none of it matters at this age. It will all change as the kids develop physically. The little kids playing A will be second string on their HS team and never play in college.
Who's playing at the Colombus Day Invitational?
Not sure what Rebels team is being watched are talked about. That Stealth team has at least 12 studs on it that can come over to any team and take your sons position. Sadly if you think the twins are best players on the team apparently you haven’t really watched this team play. Very deep with a lot talent from top to bottom. Only one way to see what happens. Wish you all good luck on your upcoming season. Let’s Go Red!!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East is Daddy ball 100#. A coaches kid is always on the field. They are not coached to win. If they were coached effectively they could given stealth a run for their $. They carried 14 midfielders and recruited 2 PAL midfielders.

In doing so, they eventually pissed the 5 kids down the the B team and succeeded in kissing off Al the B team in June with the former AA kids. The guy lies incessantly, a nice guy though. All the parents wonder every game is he going to do what he says…he never does. Waste of time!

Daddy ball? Dude these are little kids, who is coaching them if not dads? What I’m the world is your expectations?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East is Daddy ball 100#. A coaches kid is always on the field. They are not coached to win. If they were coached effectively they could given stealth a run for their $. They carried 14 midfielders and recruited 2 PAL midfielders.

In doing so, they eventually pissed the 5 kids down the the B team and succeeded in kissing off Al the B team in June with the former AA kids. The guy lies incessantly, a nice guy though. All the parents wonder every game is he going to do what he says…he never does. Waste of time!
What club team is this?

Express East. Sounds like this is a parent of a kid who was sent down to the B team.

A teAms B teams, who cares none of it matters at this age. It will all change as the kids develop physically. The little kids playing A will be second string on their HS team and never play in college.

Here’s some facts, only1 in 7 HS kids play in college. Not D1, but at any level. So most of you better get your kid a tutor, because lacrosse ain’t it!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Wrong chat…2031 Boys has been renamed…
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Twins are the only players on the team. Once they leave to 91 Stealth becomes hydra and the aces, irrelevant
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2031 4th Grade Summer 2023 -
Originally Posted by Smiley1618
Not sure what Rebels team is being watched are talked about. That Stealth team has at least 12 studs on it that can come over to any team and take your sons position. Sadly if you think the twins are best players on the team apparently you haven’t really watched this team play. Very deep with a lot talent from top to bottom. Only one way to see what happens. Wish you all good luck on your upcoming season. Let’s Go Red!!!!!

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