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If your kid is going to a school that wants a 400 math and 400 verbal sat maybe your kid should have spent less time on the wall and more time studying meatheads


Dude, you have to find a new more entertaining terminology, you've used the meathead line at least four previous times. Come on, it's BOTC, originality counts.


Other than BOTC, the only other place regular use of the term "meathead" was All in the Family. . .seems strangely appropriate in this case, right?

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If your kid is going to a school that wants a 400 math and 400 verbal sat maybe your kid should have spent less time on the wall and more time studying meatheads


Dude, you have to find a new more entertaining terminology, you've used the meathead line at least four previous times. Come on, it's BOTC, originality counts.


Other than BOTC, the only other place regular use of the term "meathead" was All in the Family. . .seems strangely appropriate in this case, right?


HAHAHA, are you calling this guy Archie Bunker? A great show by the way.

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I will box my bet: Chemotti, DeLuca, and Petro. Pressler hasn't done anything recently. Tierney (Hofstra) not there yet. Dino too old. Michigan does nothing small. They will put the peddle down and go big, spend big. First million dollar signing bonus in D1 college lacrosse and $400 a year. EOS.

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If your kid is going to a school that wants a 400 math and 400 verbal sat maybe your kid should have spent less time on the wall and more time studying meatheads


Dude, you have to find a new more entertaining terminology, you've used the meathead line at least four previous times. Come on, it's BOTC, originality counts.


Other than BOTC, the only other place regular use of the term "meathead" was All in the Family. . .seems strangely appropriate in this case, right?


HAHAHA, are you calling this guy Archie Bunker? A great show by the way.


If the plaid coat fits. . .LOL. Yes, great show. This is what happens when you're priced out of Queens and have to move out on the Island.

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I will box my bet: Chemotti, DeLuca, and Petro. Pressler hasn't done anything recently. Tierney (Hofstra) not there yet. Dino too old. Michigan does nothing small. They will put the peddle down and go big, spend big. First million dollar signing bonus in D1 college lacrosse and $400 a year. EOS.


Richmond locks down Chemotti with five year extension. Writing was on the wall!

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I will box my bet: Chemotti, DeLuca, and Petro. Pressler hasn't done anything recently. Tierney (Hofstra) not there yet. Dino too old. Michigan does nothing small. They will put the peddle down and go big, spend big. First million dollar signing bonus in D1 college lacrosse and $400 a year. EOS.


What you been smoking? This isnt Basketball or Football. No big bonus or huge salary. Be comparable to other BIG TEN schools with lacrosse.

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How much do college D1 coaches make ??

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How much do college D1 coaches make ??

John Paul's salary was 115K

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How much do college D1 coaches make ??


Outside of the top 25 many most make around $50-$70k, top assistant $20-40k all other assistants are volunteer or gas money

In NY
Stony Brook pays the HC $170, associate coach $15k, asst coach 11k
Albany HC $95 associate $55k
Binghampton HC $75k

Sport doesn't generate any money so unless you are the top of the top with results and longevity it doesn't pay very well. That's why they all do camps and clinics using the colleges facilities to supplement their pay. Same thing in Soccer. It also explains why they is so much coaching turnover because these coaches like everyone else aspire to more than $50k a year

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I will box my bet: Chemotti, DeLuca, and Petro. Pressler hasn't done anything recently. Tierney (Hofstra) not there yet. Dino too old. Michigan does nothing small. They will put the peddle down and go big, spend big. First million dollar signing bonus in D1 college lacrosse and $400 a year. EOS.


This could be a new contender for the most moronic post on botc this year. No grasp on how unimportant lax is in the whole scheme of things. Lol, huge signing bonus and $400 k per. Awesome!

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How much do college D1 coaches make ??


Outside of the top 25 many most make around $50-$70k, top assistant $20-40k all other assistants are volunteer or gas money

In NY
Stony Brook pays the HC $170, associate coach $15k, asst coach 11k
Albany HC $95 associate $55k
Binghampton HC $75k

Sport doesn't generate any money so unless you are the top of the top with results and longevity it doesn't pay very well. That's why they all do camps and clinics using the colleges facilities to supplement their pay. Same thing in Soccer. It also explains why they is so much coaching turnover because these coaches like everyone else aspire to more than $50k a year


Lack of qualified coaches in addition to players is tough on the women's sport. Colleges want Head Coaching experience, a master's degree, and every summer and weekend of the year. then they think that 35-45K is more than fair for all of that because its D1 you know. And then they want coaches to move halfway across the country and get $10k to hire 2 assistants. THATS why they cant get and retain good coaches because of the pay, relocation, pressure and lost weekends.


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Any thoughts on who Michigan may be looking at on the women's side of coaching? Will the assistants be retained?

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So a certain HS teacher, who also coaches and then owns a club is making many many many times more than these college coaches. Shows you where the power is

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How much do college D1 coaches make ??


Outside of the top 25 many most make around $50-$70k, top assistant $20-40k all other assistants are volunteer or gas money

In NY
Stony Brook pays the HC $170, associate coach $15k, asst coach 11k
Albany HC $95 associate $55k
Binghampton HC $75k

Sport doesn't generate any money so unless you are the top of the top with results and longevity it doesn't pay very well. That's why they all do camps and clinics using the colleges facilities to supplement their pay. Same thing in Soccer. It also explains why they is so much coaching turnover because these coaches like everyone else aspire to more than $50k a year


Lack of qualified coaches in addition to players is tough on the women's sport. Colleges want Head Coaching experience, a master's degree, and every summer and weekend of the year. then they think that 35-45K is more than fair for all of that because its D1 you know. And then they want coaches to move halfway across the country and get $10k to hire 2 assistants. THATS why they cant get and retain good coaches because of the pay, relocation, pressure and lost weekends.


Another reason why stopping early recruiting makes sense because outside of the top 10 coaches are moving like crazy

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Tillman and Petro are great targets... why not? Two of the best in the biz. Petro and Danowski are in contract years btw... DeLuca to Duke n Danowski to Michigan? DeLuca to Michigan? Chemotti would be a good steal...


Petro's contract extended through 2020 back in 2015. I can see them going for an ACC coach like Danowski or pulling up an experienced assistant.


Petro? Come on. Guy can't win at Hopkins. Has had the top recruiting classes with all those 20 yo freshmen for years and can't even beat OSU. They got their asses handed to them last night in every facet of the game. Last years excuse was injuries, what's this years? Party is way over at Hopkins. Just like UVA. Two of the biggest offenders in ER and holdback recruiting. Those two programs wont be winning anything for years to come. Hop lucky to get an at large bid to tourney, which they really won't deserve, just like last year.

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UM women's -Dowd and Tumulo
UM Men's-Tierney leaves Denver or Tierney leaves Hofstra-one will get it.

They are putting big money into this job to get a winner in both...Big names.


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What about Delaware Men's

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Tillman and Petro are great targets... why not? Two of the best in the biz. Petro and Danowski are in contract years btw... DeLuca to Duke n Danowski to Michigan? DeLuca to Michigan? Chemotti would be a good steal...


Petro's contract extended through 2020 back in 2015. I can see them going for an ACC coach like Danowski or pulling up an experienced assistant.


Petro? Come on. Guy can't win at Hopkins. Has had the top recruiting classes with all those 20 yo freshmen for years and can't even beat OSU. They got their asses handed to them last night in every facet of the game. Last years excuse was injuries, what's this years? Party is way over at Hopkins. Just like UVA. Two of the biggest offenders in ER and holdback recruiting. Those two programs wont be winning anything for years to come. Hop lucky to get an at large bid to tourney, which they really won't deserve, just like last year.


True, the look on his face during the beat down yesterday was priceless.

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Tillman and Petro are great targets... why not? Two of the best in the biz. Petro and Danowski are in contract years btw... DeLuca to Duke n Danowski to Michigan? DeLuca to Michigan? Chemotti would be a good steal...


Petro's contract extended through 2020 back in 2015. I can see them going for an ACC coach like Danowski or pulling up an experienced assistant.


Petro? Come on. Guy can't win at Hopkins. Has had the top recruiting classes with all those 20 yo freshmen for years and can't even beat OSU. They got their asses handed to them last night in every facet of the game. Last years excuse was injuries, what's this years? Party is way over at Hopkins. Just like UVA. Two of the biggest offenders in ER and holdback recruiting. Those two programs wont be winning anything for years to come. Hop lucky to get an at large bid to tourney, which they really won't deserve, just like last year.


True, the look on his face during the beat down yesterday was priceless.


wasn't the score 15-13? wish it was a better game.

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Tillman and Petro are great targets... why not? Two of the best in the biz. Petro and Danowski are in contract years btw... DeLuca to Duke n Danowski to Michigan? DeLuca to Michigan? Chemotti would be a good steal...


Petro's contract extended through 2020 back in 2015. I can see them going for an ACC coach like Danowski or pulling up an experienced assistant.


Petro? Come on. Guy can't win at Hopkins. Has had the top recruiting classes with all those 20 yo freshmen for years and can't even beat OSU. They got their asses handed to them last night in every facet of the game. Last years excuse was injuries, what's this years? Party is way over at Hopkins. Just like UVA. Two of the biggest offenders in ER and holdback recruiting. Those two programs wont be winning anything for years to come. Hop lucky to get an at large bid to tourney, which they really won't deserve, just like last year.


True, the look on his face during the beat down yesterday was priceless.


wasn't the score 15-13? wish it was a better game.


Was much worse for Hopkins than it looked. They were deer in headlights.

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Tillman and Petro are great targets... why not? Two of the best in the biz. Petro and Danowski are in contract years btw... DeLuca to Duke n Danowski to Michigan? DeLuca to Michigan? Chemotti would be a good steal...


Petro's contract extended through 2020 back in 2015. I can see them going for an ACC coach like Danowski or pulling up an experienced assistant.


Petro? Come on. Guy can't win at Hopkins. Has had the top recruiting classes with all those 20 yo freshmen for years and can't even beat OSU. They got their asses handed to them last night in every facet of the game. Last years excuse was injuries, what's this years? Party is way over at Hopkins. Just like UVA. Two of the biggest offenders in ER and holdback recruiting. Those two programs wont be winning anything for years to come. Hop lucky to get an at large bid to tourney, which they really won't deserve, just like last year.


True, the look on his face during the beat down yesterday was priceless.


wasn't the score 15-13? wish it was a better game.


Hopkins was beat in first half. Made a little run at end. Wasnt ever in doubt

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So a certain HS teacher, who also coaches and then owns a club is making many many many times more than these college coaches. Shows you where the power is


there's also a certain womens college coach who owns a club, is that money train over with the new recruiting rules?

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Morning. My daughter saw on instagram that a 2020 posted yesterday that she committed to brown and another 2020 to notre dame. Do you think they were sitting on these offers? why post now?

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Both were CT girls...

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So a certain HS teacher, who also coaches and then owns a club is making many many many times more than these college coaches. Shows you where the power is


there's also a certain womens college coach who owns a club, is that money train over with the new recruiting rules?


New recruiting rules help the Clubs.

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So a certain HS teacher, who also coaches and then owns a club is making many many many times more than these college coaches. Shows you where the power is


there's also a certain womens college coach who owns a club, is that money train over with the new recruiting rules?


New recruiting rules help the Clubs.


keeps them on the hook longer

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What a year for St Johns U! Yikes!!

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So a certain HS teacher, who also coaches and then owns a club is making many many many times more than these college coaches. Shows you where the power is


there's also a certain womens college coach who owns a club, is that money train over with the new recruiting rules?


JS does not own a club. BS does.

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So a certain HS teacher, who also coaches and then owns a club is making many many many times more than these college coaches. Shows you where the power is


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So a certain HS teacher, who also coaches and then owns a club is making many many many times more than these college coaches. Shows you where the power is


there's also a certain womens college coach who owns a club, is that money train over with the new recruiting rules?


JS does not own a club. BS does.


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Don't know what the deal is for the 2020 Brown commit, but apparently the Notre Dame commit deal was sealed JUST before the new ruling was passed. . . . Posting has been out there for a few days, maybe Instagram is just making it more well known now that Brown commit is coming forward. . . .

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You do realize there is no "offer" from Brown right? No scholarships.

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Talking about verbal offer, not scholarship.
These offers must have been made just before the new ruling

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You do realize there is no "offer" from Brown right? No scholarships.


Yes, there is an offer. The offer is help with admission to the university and a roster spot.



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Cornell and Head Coach Kerwick parting ways. What does that mean for the commit's?

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Cornell and Head Coach Kerwick parting ways. What does that mean for the commit's?

Kerwick going to Michigan.

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Cornell and Head Coach Kerwick parting ways. What does that mean for the commit's?

Kerwick going to Michigan.


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This is perfect example of why early commits need to be careful. The commitments do not in anyway have to be honored by incoming coach.
In some cases AD will honor because Ivy they feel it is about the school not the sport. You don't hear about the kids getting the calls telling them sorry you are no longer wanted. Especially when a player tells a coach no not interested going somewhere else and then the head coach of where he thought he was going gets fired and the replacement is from a school he said no to.

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This is perfect example of why early commits need to be careful. The commitments do not in anyway have to be honored by incoming coach.
In some cases AD will honor because Ivy they feel it is about the school not the sport. You don't hear about the kids getting the calls telling them sorry you are no longer wanted. Especially when a player tells a coach no not interested going somewhere else and then the head coach of where he thought he was going gets fired and the replacement is from a school he said no to.



Outside of the top 25 many most make around $50-$70k, top assistant $20-40k all other assistants are volunteer or gas money. With so little money being made the coaches are always moving around outside the top 10

Sport doesn't generate any money so unless you are the top of the top with results and longevity it doesn't pay very well. That's why they all do camps and clinics using the colleges facilities to supplement their pay. Same thing in Soccer. It also explains why they is so much coaching turnover because these coaches like everyone else aspire to more than $50k a year

Lack of qualified coaches in addition to players is tough on the women's sport. Colleges want Head Coaching experience, a master's degree, and every summer and weekend of the year. then they think that 35-45K is more than fair for all of that because its D1 you know. And then they want coaches to move halfway across the country and get $10k to hire 2 assistants. THATS why they cant get and retain good coaches because of the pay, relocation, pressure and lost weekends

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As for Cornell, All 17's commits will be honored, after that I'd consider yourself to be back in the general recruiting pool (which you were already anyway, you just knew that someone kind of wanted you). Back to the prospect days and showcases...

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