US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums National Premier Youth Lacrosse League - Spring 2014

If you say HOCO you are nuts. LOL

Hoco league better at younger teams. Npyll better at older teams

I think NYPLL has better teams overall, but that doesn't mean that HOCO doesnt have some darn good teams also. just not as many. Also do think NPYLL is stronger at top ages/grades

HoCo younger champs-

2023 zingos
2022 rough riders (did not have good results at GT against NPYLL teams)
2021 crabs (moving to NPYLL)

This is a question about the NYPLL rules. According to the League constitution, article VIII, a player shall not be eligible to play in the league regardless of grade or age if they "have or are currently playing for a high [school] team."

I would have to imagine that most of the kids playing U15 or graduating in 2019 will be playing for a High School JV program this spring. Does the rule implicitly exempt JV programs? If not, is the rule actually enforced?

2019 is 8th grade - JV starts in 9th grade

2019 is 8th grade. most would not be playing jv even if allowed

I think it is permissible throughout most of northern Virginia for 8th graders to be eligible for playing JV lacrosse (someone please correct me if I am wrong); perhaps the prevalence of NPYLL kids trying out and/or making their local public school team is less than what I initially imagined.

I think there is only one or two countys in VA that allow 8th graders to play JV lacrosse in the public schools. As for the Private schools I have no idea I think its a school by school thing. So some kids might be getting bump up the depth chart this spring if the kid ahead of them makes his JV team.

the rule is likely to prevent kids playing in HS. ie 9th graders age eligible for u15 or 8th graders playing up to be ringers for Sunday youth games

Well there really should not be a Ringer in the NPYLL because they say/are the premier league in the area. I think a 8th grader who plays with his high school JV team should be alound to play with his club on sundays. But what I think the issue is how would the high school coach feel about his player playing a game on sunday?

How npyll teams playing indoor leagues

Cannons, Hawks, Bethesda in MMILL. (Outdoor lax indoor)

Hawks doing true Box also.

Madlax running true Box league also.

Bethsada looked good in indoor

Week 1 results for NPYLL teams:
U9
Bethesda LC 2024 Blue 23 SWARM 6

U11 A
Bethesda LC 2022 Blue 14 Cannons 15
FCA 2022 10 Hawks 2022 22
FCA U11 7 Hawks 2023 14

U13 A
Hawks 2020 Black 37 Zingos 12
Cannons 23 Bethesda LC 2021 Blue 20

U15
Bulldogs 20 Zingos 2019 9

JV
Rockfish Purple 22 Cannons Gold 32

Hawks

Hawks

Hawks

6th grade Bethesda team lost to 7th grade cannons team by 3 - impressive

Is that the same cannons team that is going to Tampa? They may not win a game in Tampa. Why go?

Who is going to Tampa?

Rumor has it Connons, Madlax, and Diamonbacks are all sending teams.

Madlax and Cannons are sending teams, the website lists who is going

Maryland Extreme is sending a U13 team, it doesn't get worse than that

I thought you had to win a qualifying tournament (aloha tournament?) to go. I know there are tons of them, but which tourney did Xtreme win?

They always enter the 'B' brackets of tournaments so they likely beat a few rec teams to get the invite

Bethesda 2021 team may be 2nd best 2021 team in the land, so that's not a suprise. Good for them.

As folks probably already know. [lacrosse]'s has so much geographic diversity that it looks like the top third may be elite, the middle third not elite but good teams and the bottom third not as good. Here's list as of 12/4

11 Division - 18 teams
757 Ironclads Select (VA)
Atlanta Empire (GA)
Cannons Select (MD)
Cherokee Xtreme (GA)
Cyclones Lacrosse Club (NC)
Edge Elite 2021 (ON)
FCA South Florida (FL)
Georgia Blue Jays (GA)
Heat Lacrosse (MI)
Kahnawake Warriors (QC)
Madlax Nationals (NAT)
Pasco Lions (FL)
Palm Beach Revolution (FL)
Rising Sons (PA)
Six Nations Royal Reds (ON)
Team Atlanta (GA)
Team Igloo (NY)
Valley Select 2021 (VA)

U13 Division - 21 teams
3d New England Select (MA)
757 Ironclads Select (VA)
Atlanta Empire (GA)
C2C Dallas U13 (TX)
C2C Georgia (GA)
Cannons Select (MD)
Chupacabras (TX)
Defenders of Troy (GA)
Grand River Ironmen (ON)
Kooper's Lacrosse Club (MD)
Madlax Nationals (NAT)
Maryland Xtreme (MD)
Oneida Braves (ON)
Palm Beach Revolution 2019 (FL)
Palm Beach Revolution 2020 (FL)
Pasco Lions (FL)
Rising Sons (PA)
Shamrocks (MI)
SoCo Lacrosse (MD)
Team Atlanta (GA)
Team Florida (FL)

U15 Division - 28 teams
419 Lacrosse (OH)
Atlanta Crush (GA)
Atlanta Empire (GA)
Black Jack Elite (OH)
Brady's Bunch (CA)
C2C Georgia (GA)
Copperhead Orange (GA)
FCA Colorado (CO)
FCA Lacrosse (NAT)
Florida Elite (FL)
Grand River Ironmen (ON)
Hartland Heat (MI)
Madlax Nationals (NAT)
NU Thunder (UT)
NJ Emeralds (NJ)
Ottawa Nemesis (ON)
Power Play Titans (MI)
Rising Stars (MA)
Road Warriors (NC)
Seminole Select (VA)
Six Nation Royal Reds (ON)
Sweetlax National 2017 (NY)
Team Atlanta (GA)
Team ONE Thunderbirds (IL)
Third Coast Lacrosse (TX)
True PA 2018 (PA)
V3 Elite (VA)
West Florida (FL)

such lax parent snobbery on the site. So they aren't AA elite. my kid's team played them in the fall nypll and I thought they we good and well coached. they won the B bracket in that. they wouldn't beat the 91 crush, express, looney's AA, crabs of the world but pretty good for geography they pull from

"From the geography they pull from" - how snobbish!

So basically they are a good rec team?

What did the 11u cannons win? They finished 4 in the npyll

Team Igloo and Rising Sons in U11

Nobody else has a chance

I can see Madlax taking it also. This is their all star team.

They are missing a few of the kids that played in the summer and are filling out the roster with 'B' players

Why would anyone waste the money on airfare to go to that [lacrosse]'s tournament? Complete waste of money. A handful of good teams and a ton of bad ones that get pummeled.

Tampa weather way better than Mid Atlantic weather?

Not so sure the bad ones realize they are bad.

It's just an excuse to vacation in Florida when the weather up north sucks.

Furman, High Point, UNC, Duke, etc. should be required to have all home games until the middle of March.

Yeah, it would be great to have only the 2-4 top hotbed teams there for each division. Not. The reality is only the top hotbed teams have a chance and, yes, like in U11, unless you have played a AA hotbed team before, it is hard to appreciate how much better they are.

That said, Palm Beach Storm beat Rising Sons 2020 twice last year at [lacrosse]'s in close games and they have since merged with another program and gotten better. Which is not to say Rising Sons 2021 isn't much better than last year's team (though they only beat the Breakers this Fall 11-7, who were dominated by GT and Hawks). The Charlotte team only lost to Madlax 9-8 in a U11AA championship this Summer. 757 isn't far behind Charlotte. Cannons versus all those teams might be good games.

I expect Team Igloo will be the only untouchable team in U11, but we'll see. Non-hotbed teams are at least improving. At least [lacrosse]'s actually has age rules that are enforced, so don't have to worry about, or listen to complaining about, holdbacks.

[lacrosse]'s was one of the best tournaments we attended last year. Played teams from 7 states and Canada. Some overmatched teams, but decent competition in the playoffs. Nice fields. Well run tournament. Nice weather. Kid-friendly resort. In Florida. In December. No college coaches. No pressure. Just fun for family, friends and the kids.

Then your son plays in a bunch of crappy tournaments.

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It is one of the worst tournaments in the country.

Did the tournament have 'A' and 'B' brackets last year?

Attended all the best tournaments: Young Guns, Big 4, Greene Turtle, etc.

Sometimes, lacrosse for kids should be fun. Ask your kid, rather than judging for him or judging others.

Some sad people on this site.

Sorry, but it is called the Tournament of Champions, not "Tournament of Nice B teams with good coaching"

If they tournament is going to lower their standards, they should call it something else

be realistic. you'd never get the best teams in all age brackets every year. call it the "tournament of champions from all types of tournaments that also have whole teams of parents with time, money and willingness to spend their winter break at a lax tournament" For those that go hopefully they have a great time no matter how they do.