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I'm not in disagreement with you. I'm a big fan of KO. Love her style of play. Just saying, those who had the opportunity to make the selection probably weighed in strength of schedule. In all fairness I don't think you could pick wrong with either KO or ZS.

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If they choose and place my daughter on A team of 28 players, then they better damn well play her. otherwise make 2 teams of 14 and group the girls properly. Cant have it both ways when they are the evaluators


nobody ever talks about this because its indefensible

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over heard a couple of refs talking. Not sure where to go with this, Spallina is looking for a mens college job with a major college. Why ? Mens coaches make twice the money..

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If they choose and place my daughter on A team of 28 players, then they better damn well play her. otherwise make 2 teams of 14 and group the girls properly. Cant have it both ways when they are the evaluators


nobody ever talks about this because its indefensible


So, you would have 2 subs? good luck with that

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over heard a couple of refs talking. Not sure where to go with this, Spallina is looking for a mens college job with a major college. Why ? Mens coaches make twice the money..


Why would you need to go somewhere with it?

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She bought into the cocky approach like her coach and it hurt her. The Sportsmanship component was a very big component in this years vote.

Her coach and former director don't produce humble players!


You have no idea what you're talking about. Go ahead and hate on YJ and or hate on SB and or their coach. We all have our favorite teams. But Kylie is a great kid on and off the field. She deserved the award. Other players are great but none are a close second to Kylie. On another note, US Lacrosse made a dumb move cutting her from the team. Like it or not, she is clearly one of the best, if not the best in the game. Like it or not, she is the face of women lacrosse. Today's young players don't know a lick about any of the older players that made the team. Today's younger players would have followed Kylie and the US team. Now, not so much.
in your opinion


How many highlight reels did Stukenberg end up on? Did she make it onto ESPN's top 10 plays of the week? I don't think so. I'm sure she's a great player and an even better person but she's no Ohmiller.


Really, that's your criteria for player of the year? How old are you?


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hit to YJ with the Tewaarton going to MD player and not a NYer who deserved it. Nobody loves the LI attitude


Not sure it's LI hatred. It has gone to Maryland past 6 years which is wrong. Guess CR being on that committee is working. Thought KO as well as Hompe were most deserving


Not when you consider strength of schedule. Terps played the toughest schedule in the country. No question Stukenberg is definitely worthy of Tewaaraton. Also a great argument for Ohlmiller. She will have her chance again next year.Came down to tougher opponents.


This is absolutely true. KO is a great player. The points totals are not the whole story though. Last year's 100 goal scorer proves that. I don't think anyone would argue that CM should have been in the "best player in the game" argument last year. Now KO is different. She IS one of the best players in the game. But the point totals put up against a decent, but not great, schedule, should not be the only determinant.

Here is a breakdown. and yes this matters:

Stony Brook played 22 games. 12 of the games were against weaker opponents. Many ranked well down in the rankings. In those 12 games KO had 46 goals and 57 assists = 103 points = 8.6 points/game.

In the 10 games against tough opponents (including Albany twice which is a stretch), KO had 31 goals and 29 assists. still very, very good numbers, but the average drops to 6 points a game split evenly between goals and assists.

Now, if you compare the "tough games" by SB to a Maryland, UNC or NU schedule, for examples, the game quality still does not measure up. So there is still one more level of difficulty in schedule that KO still didn't play.

But extrapolating the 6 points a game for KO to a full schedule somewhat more representative of the #4 team in the country, KO still puts up an amazing 132 points. 68 goals and 64 assists. Fantastic numbers by anyone's account, but not record-breaking and now much more debatable relative to the Tewaaraton.

Add-in a Maryland schedule adjustment factor of say .85 to that final total to account for what is still a schedule difficulty disparity, and you end up at 112 points. 58 goals and 54 assists.

So there you have it, KO is a great player. she benefits statistically a great deal by playing a weaker schedule than top players on other teams. Fact, not opinion.


I could have told you that without all the babbling and numbers pretty obvious.



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If they choose and place my daughter on A team of 28 players, then they better damn well play her. otherwise make 2 teams of 14 and group the girls properly. Cant have it both ways when they are the evaluators


nobody ever talks about this because its indefensible


So, you would have 2 subs? good luck with that



Yep, my daughter is a starter and prefers to stay in the whole game. It's an hour at most. Ya wusses that need constant breaks are soft!

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KO is a good player, but nowhere near the level of the top girls playing the top competition. This is why she didn't win....does not take a brain surgeon to figure out.

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looking for a 2025 goalie? How can that be?

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She bought into the cocky approach like her coach and it hurt her. The Sportsmanship component was a very big component in this years vote.

Her coach and former director don't produce humble players!


You have no idea what you're talking about. Go ahead and hate on YJ and or hate on SB and or their coach. We all have our favorite teams. But Kylie is a great kid on and off the field. She deserved the award. Other players are great but none are a close second to Kylie. On another note, US Lacrosse made a dumb move cutting her from the team. Like it or not, she is clearly one of the best, if not the best in the game. Like it or not, she is the face of women lacrosse. Today's young players don't know a lick about any of the older players that made the team. Today's younger players would have followed Kylie and the US team. Now, not so much.
in your opinion


How many highlight reels did Stukenberg end up on? Did she make it onto ESPN's top 10 plays of the week? I don't think so. I'm sure she's a great player and an even better person but she's no Ohmiller.




most where dangerous shots. if you shoot w/o regard for the players around you its dangerous. Refs are not calling it!!!
Some where def. legit great plays with in the rules, however, a lot were not!

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over heard a couple of refs talking. Not sure where to go with this, Spallina is looking for a mens college job with a major college. Why ? Mens coaches make twice the money..
Old news, Michigan job, would never move his family to a non lacrosse hot-bed. His kids lax games would suffer too much and he is to involved in coaching their programs to start over there.

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over heard a couple of refs talking. Not sure where to go with this, Spallina is looking for a mens college job with a major college. Why ? Mens coaches make twice the money..
Old news, Michigan job, would never move his family to a non lacrosse hot-bed. His kids lax games would suffer too much and he is to involved in coaching their programs to start over there.



He could easily slide across the hallway at SB and coach the Men's team!

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over heard a couple of refs talking. Not sure where to go with this, Spallina is looking for a mens college job with a major college. Why ? Mens coaches make twice the money..
Old news, Michigan job, would never move his family to a non lacrosse hot-bed. His kids lax games would suffer too much and he is to involved in coaching their programs to start over there.



Can you say Team 91 Michigan?

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Like any other parent he works to support his family and a change in location is always a possibility if a job that offers him a package that can provide them with a better life style
Then like the rest of us - I'm sure it will get consideration

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over heard a couple of refs talking. Not sure where to go with this, Spallina is looking for a mens college job with a major college. Why ? Mens coaches make twice the money..
Old news, Michigan job, would never move his family to a non lacrosse hot-bed. His kids lax games would suffer too much and he is to involved in coaching their programs to start over there.



He could easily slide across the hallway at SB and coach the Men's team!


Why bother? It's a public school. The money is in private institutions.

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looking for a 2025 goalie? How can that be?


What do you care?! Interesting in applying?

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looking for a 2025 goalie? How can that be?


What do you care?! Interesting in applying?


English, please.

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What happened to the goalie?

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What happened to the goalie?


She was kidnapped in an Express line at the market by a guy who was with Recon on a 24 hour Liberty dressed as a Jester wearing a yellow jacket driving a 91 Legacy

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over heard a couple of refs talking. Not sure where to go with this, Spallina is looking for a mens college job with a major college. Why ? Mens coaches make twice the money..
Old news, Michigan job, would never move his family to a non lacrosse hot-bed. His kids lax games would suffer too much and he is to involved in coaching their programs to start over there.



He could easily slide across the hallway at SB and coach the Men's team!


Why bother? It's a public school. The money is in private institutions.


Well that puts Michigan out since it's also a public university

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What happened to the goalie?


She was kidnapped in an Express line at the market by a guy who was with Recon on a 24 hour Liberty dressed as a Jester wearing a yellow jacket driving a 91 Legacy


That is awesome. You win the best post on BOTC award for today.

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What happened to the goalie?


She was kidnapped in an Express line at the market by a guy who was with Recon on a 24 hour Liberty dressed as a Jester wearing a yellow jacket driving a 91 Legacy


That is awesome. You win the best post on BOTC award for today.


That just made me LOL!!!

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What the heck is going on with the 2023 age group?? An embarrassment to the brand!

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What the heck is going on with the 2023 age group?? An embarrassment to the brand!
tell those rising 7th graders they are an embarrassment. Wow, let them be kids and calm down. Several years away from recruiting years when it counts. Take a deep breath.

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What the heck is going on with the 2023 age group?? An embarrassment to the brand!



Would you care to add a little narrative as to why 2023 " is a embarrassment to the brand"???


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What the heck is going on with the 2023 age group?? An embarrassment to the brand!



Would you care to add a little narrative as to why 2023 " is a embarrassment to the brand"???



What do you mean? 2023 Wright took down Steps Blue for the big win!!!!! Why is that an embarrassment? So confused????

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Agree completely. This person is tryingnto spin that because team Thorn 2023 went 3-1 in the A division that this grade is an "embarrassment" to he brand. Team wright 2023 won the whole thing in their division. Great day for them all. No embarrassment. Just another organization parent hating on this grade because they are praying for failure. Helps them justify not being on YJ if YJ does not go undefeated.

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What the heck is going on with the 2023 age group?? An embarrassment to the brand!



Would you care to add a little narrative as to why 2023 " is a embarrassment to the brand"???



What do you mean? 2023 Wright took down Steps Blue for the big win!!!!! Why is that an embarrassment? So confused????


1st they be at Ultimate(who beat Thorn) then beat Steps for championship.

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Thorn was not in A division..

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Congrats to both teams. I'm sure both teams played hard and represented YJ with some great lax.

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YJ younger teams win championships class of 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 at Lax By The Sea!! Congrats to all the teams and players.

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[quote=Anonymous]Thorn was not in A division..

Thorn's team is improving why so negative. She's doing the best she can with the available talent in the age group.

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What the heck is going on with the 2023 age group?? An embarrassment to the brand!



Would you care to add a little narrative as to why 2023 " is a embarrassment to the brand"???



What do you mean? 2023 Wright took down Steps Blue for the big win!!!!! Why is that an embarrassment? So confused????


1st they be at Ultimate(who beat Thorn) then beat Steps for championship.




It's an embarrassment for two reasons:

1. YJ is playing weak tournaments
2. 2023 B team is still beating A

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The girl who was playing goalie for the team named Spallina has decided to play goalie for a boys 91 team for the summer.

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The girl who was playing goalie for the team named Spallina has decided to play goalie for a boys 91 team for the summer.


Thanks Dad

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What the heck is going on with the 2023 age group?? An embarrassment to the brand!



Would you care to add a little narrative as to why 2023 " is a embarrassment to the brand"???



What do you mean? 2023 Wright took down Steps Blue for the big win!!!!! Why is that an embarrassment? So confused????


1st they be at Ultimate(who beat Thorn) then beat Steps for championship.




It's an embarrassment for two reasons:

1. YJ is playing weak tournaments
2. 2023 B team is still beating A

Guess your daughter must be on the B team, get over it and tell her to work a little harder

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[quote=Anonymous]The girl who was playing goalie for the team named Spallina has decided to play goalie for a boys 91 team for the summer.

More suspense than the Lebron James decision, now I can sleep at night

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With their fresh victory in the Lax by the Sea tournament,The 2022's, 2023's get to start playing the top teams in Maryland. Not going to turn out well.just my opinion!

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Um, parent of a teammate. Someone asked and you got an answer without any attitude. Just an informative answer.

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