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UA Underclass - so Manhasset has an early exit from the NYS playoffs yet has 5 kids on the UA underclass team. WM and CSH win the states and only 1 kid from each of those squads are on the UA underclass roster. With more than 20% of the roster occupied with players from a team that made an early exit, why would anybody not expect a similar result from the UA squad?

UA Underclass - so Manhasset has an early exit from the NYS playoffs yet has 5 kids on the UA underclass team. WM and CSH win the states and only 1 kid from each of those squads are on the UA underclass roster. With more than 20% of the roster occupied with players from a team that made an early exit, why would anybody not expect a similar result from the UA squad?

Why July 1st?

You really have to be joking with this post. Unreal. Just STOP with the hyped tradition power HS programs. Those are SCHOOL TEAMS practicing for weeks & weeks everyday!! This was an all star team, huge difference. Your post is ridiculous, seriously.

these all star games are all about politics. Simple. The guys coaching these teams and picking these teams are club directors. Therefore business men also who have to protect there business. Plain and simple. It is what it is. The only way to shut people up is to win. Example the Suffolk Nassau game this year. Suffolk was run by Gongas. Team Long Island. The majority of the teams were team Long Island kids. A lot of people were complaining just like everyone else on here. They didn't pick the best 20 kids. Difference is Suffolk swept. End of discussion. It's a vicious cycle but this is the way it is. If you don't have a rabbi in the game save your money. Just my take on this

Brine, Empire State games, UA, Nassau Suffolk, all total scams... always have been, always will be. Do some kids just tryout and make these teams? Sure a few for each event. The rest are all great players, but were chosen before these tryouts ever occurred.

So if a player in his HS program hadn't gone deep in playoffs in Nassau or Suffolk than he doesn't belong on the UA team because he is a bad player? So you cannot be considered "elite" if your HS team doesn't go in LIC or deep in playoffs?

The point that is trying to be made is that many of the best high school players on some of the better high school teams do NOT try out for this sham of a team. Their coaches tell them to stir clear. So contrary to the bias opinions of a club team owner, Catholic school coaches and a retail apparel maker, this team is obviously not representative of the best talent on Long Island.

Right, so you would expect a high school team with 5 all stars to do much better than they did. You just proved his point for him. I think YOUR post is rediculous. You read posts on this thread all the time about certain high school teams that are stacked and people claiming they are the best team because of their great individual players. So now somebody points out that those players made UA over kids from other more successful teams and you don't think that's fair? Sorry buddy, can't have it both ways. Maybe some of those players are only great when they play club lacrosse with the other all stars.

Total disagree, BUDDY. But I'm sure you know much more than me about players, coaching, teams, top HS programs & lax in general.

Manhasset - 5
Smithtown East - 3
Chaminade - 3
Syosset - 2
Sachem N - 1
Dear Park - 1
Bay Shore - 1
St. Anthony's - 1
CHS - 1
Ward Melville - 1
Plainedge - 1
Staples CT - 1

Maybe I do or maybe I don't. It doesn't really matter in this case because it's just common sense. If a high school team has 5 kids on it that were chosen as better than everyone else then it should translate into wins and ultimately championships. Again we aren't talking 1or 2, it's 5. Half the kids on a field. If that doesn't translate then maybe there are other players out there who are better but haven't had the benefit of being connected to the right people or teams. Don't be so defensive. Just a discussion.

Any truth to the rumor. Calabria no longer coaching at Syosset.

Any truth to the rumor. Calabria no longer coaching at Syosset.

Shouldn't it be July 6 when the dead period ends?

Above list was wrong...

This is correct:

Manhasset - 5
Smithtown East - 3
Chaminade - 3
Syosset - 1
Sachem N - 1
Dear Park - 1
Bay Shore - 1
St. Anthony's - 1
CHS - 1
Ward Melville - 1
Plainedge - 1
Staples CT - 1
Mount Sinai - 1
Commack - 1

Let's not forget that the 5 Manhasset kids went to the NYS Championship game in 2015 and SE was in the LIC in 2015...

14 schools represented out of a roster of 22 is pretty good.

Never mind that how about:

18 of 22 kids current play for or have played for Express and one of the directors of the Express was one of the head evaluators. The discussion starts and stops there, but I guess it all depends on what side of the fence you sit on. If your kid was one of the chosen ones you think the tryout was fair and everything is rosy, if your kid went to the tryout and didnt get picked you are gonna tend to mistrust the process and call BS. Everyone knows the team was predetermined with the exception of a few spots so lets stop with the attempts to make it look better by pointing out what schools theyre from. The tryout was a farce, they would have been much better served just picking the team, announcing it and saving everyone the time, money and aggravation.

I wasn't being defensive at all until u came off with a tough guy disrespectful "buddy" tone.

QUESTION, do you know how MUCH those 5 MHS players played? Meaning, maybe a few of them didn't play much. Maybe injured or bad subbing etc.

Or are you just assuming they lived on the field at the SAME TIME?

Its an all star team. Stinks that your son wasn't picked (our son been there) but it happens sometimes.

Oh, and by the way...

Sometimes a good kid does not get recruited or selected for an all star event not because of there lack of skill and athletic ability, but rather because their parents are too involved and are always complaining.... You know the type... People who always complain about little Johnny's playing time, etc... Bitching about everything on BOTC...

Think about it....

Have a nice day.

As of now they are renewing his contract to coach any team in Syosset!

Another case of parents getting too involved and complaining to the AD, etc, because their prodigal son doesn't have the skills or work ethic to earn playing time on the team...

Congratulations! You should pat yourself on the back.... You are ruining an excellent program and throwing BS accusations against an excellent coach who has built a top notch program...

Remember, what comes around goes around and karma is a [lacrosse]....

Thanks for the 3 cliches
All things work out in the end.

Another case of parents getting too involved and complaining to the AD, etc, because their prodigal son doesn't have the skills or work ethic to earn playing time on the team...

Congratulations! You should pat yourself on the back.... You are ruining an excellent program and throwing BS accusations against an excellent coach who has built a top notch program...

Remember, what comes around goes around and karma is a [lacrosse]....

It went higher then the AD the board of education made the decision!

All things work out in the end.

Coaching high school lacrosse is a no win situation. This is so pathetic in so many ways. This a very good coach who has put a lot of time and energy into a program that is one of the best on Long Island. Very sad!!!

Coaching high school lacrosse is a no win situation. This is so pathetic in so many ways. This a very good coach who has put a lot of time and energy into a program that is one of the best on Long Island. Very sad!!!

Pathetic is a coach who would allow parents control what he does, it's a High School team, he is the coach, parents should not be influencing his decisions but apparently he did for several years and it has led to this outcome. Once you start catering to parents, you start going down the never ending deep dark place.