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No it was not summer for everyone- the LI kids were all still in school for another few weeks and were current 7th graders, not yet rising 8th graders. PLUS, those kids that choose to repeat a grade and play down with the 2020 team had never officially entered a repeated grade. Anyone could say they were repeating a grade- but until the kid takes a step into the school and the same grade again (quite ridiculous), it is not official. Maybe this will be the next trend to manipulate a system- who is to stop kids from gaming the system in the summer and saying they are going to repeat a grade? You can even register a kid and they can back out right before September. Would not put it past a certain club to do so.

Again, another thing other sports get right- you cannot add kids here and there for any game or tourney- a roster is set until next year's try outs.

I can name your 12 holdbacks with initials if you'd like. Nah..no need to resort to your lows. Cheating or bending rules is part of sports. Eventually some coach or organization goes to far and then penalties roll down. Look at UNC basketball. They've been violating NCAA rules for years. Most don't know anything about it until it hits the press. UNC is about to get crushed with penalties. CRABS is youth lax that wants to keep the reputation of being best MD lax club. They are driving holdbacks to increase their chances.

I love how everyone brushes over the 19-8 win by 91 Crush on national TV. The win is important do to the fact it was a tournament and game where birth certificates were checked and verified. When you consider that, awful showing for the crabs.

Unfortunately, what you are whining about is not the facts.

You can hate the Crabs (we have nothing to do with them), but that is not rule breaking. Why not direct your attention at the other 20+ teams that have holdbacks?

Funny how nobody from Madlax is refuting that they used a 2019 player last weekend on their 2020 team. That is big time cheating.

Funny how nobody from Madlax is refuting that they used a 2019 player last weekend on their 2020 team. That is big time cheating.

Unfortunately, what you are whining about is not the facts.

You can hate the Crabs (we have nothing to do with them), but that is not rule breaking. Why not direct your attention at the other 20+ teams that have holdbacks?

I love how everyone points to that game as if it somehow defines the Crabs 2020 team. (A true sign of jealousy by the way) Since they started the team in 6th grade they have played every great team multiple times (unlike others who pop off on this forum) and are probably something like 60-5 overall....By the way, college coaches wont give a s*it this summer how old anyone is. Only the jealous dads of other teams care about this.

You should try to ease up on the hyperbole. It might give you a wee bit of credibility. It currently sounds like you are a jealous white trash parent who's kid got cut from the crabs.

. Really, white trash, that's really over the top. There is no exaggeration about Crabs of what was stated about their operation. They are an organization that goes way beyond what is ethical in youth lacrosse. For your info my son plays for an elite 2020, has never tried out for Crabs, has no desire to but they would love to have him, and he is not a holdback. As for being white trash, I guess I could say it takes one to know one, but that would be too childish, You have clearly demonstrated your low life status so keep trying. What time do you start work in the morning at your minimum pay job. In the final analysis you have shown you have no clue.

Love the dads who say "Crabs wants my son but he has no desire to play for them". Yeah Righttttt. Calling BS on that one...

Final standings are in
Crabs 6-0 10 holdbacks
Fca 5-1 5 holdbacks
Looneys 4-2 6 holdbacks
Hawks 3-3 none
Rising cheats 2-4 4 holdbacks at least
91 2-4 5 holdbacks
NL 0-6 doesn't matter

Love the dads who say "Crabs wants my son but he has no desire to play for them". Yeah Righttttt. Calling BS on that one...

wrong.... 1 repeat from FCA, not 5. due to academics.

I love how everyone points to that game as if it somehow defines the Crabs 2020 team. (A true sign of jealousy by the way) Since they started the team in 6th grade they have played every great team multiple times (unlike others who pop off on this forum) and are probably something like 60-5 overall....By the way, college coaches wont give a s*it this summer how old anyone is. Only the jealous dads of other teams care about this.

FCA has at least one pre-first kid. Also, who knows how old the 6'4" 195lb kid from Alabama is. His website claims DOB 12-9-2001

Unfortunately "that game" makes the ENTIRE POINT, it defines exactly what the crabs are. When forced to play age appropriate not nearly as competitive.

wrong.... 1 repeat from FCA, not 5. due to academics.

Pre first and repeating 8th grade solely for lacrosse purposes are not the same thing.

Agreed. Pre First is set up for academic reasons. Same basic idea....older kids taking SATs, etc against younger kids reflects well on the school.

Are you that obtuse? "That game" wasn't played under the rules that the team was built under. Do you honestly think if Crabs had tryouts for 14u, 13u, 12u, etc that those teams wouldn't be at or near the top? Crabs certainly got along fine when it was age based.

Agreed. Pre First is set up for academic reasons. Same basic idea....older kids taking SATs, etc against younger kids reflects well on the school.

Many reasons for prefirst kids,,Some is academic for sure. Mnay schools almost demand summer birthday boys stay back, But some is strictly for Sports and to gain an advantage, dont fool yourselves if you dont think that. Private school parents arent dumb..They know the advantage of having an extra year over others. They dont want their child at a disadvantage...Go watch any MIAA playground in the lower schools..It is easy to spot the kids that are held back..Not all but many dominate on the playground. Think about when you were in elementary school..big difference between a 3rd grader and 4th grader..I dont like it a little but holding kids back works for for many.

OMG, the goalie from 2019 is a summer 2001 birthday
the "D" that came from 2019 should be 2019
at least 1 middie and at least 1 attack should also be 2019.

How many is that?

All I know my son is a straight A student and will get more money academically than your holdbacks. He also in the end will be more success in life because he worked hard to achieve without being held back. Life is hard and sports fade away. Academics take your further in the end. So stop the squabbling and put more money into getting that area then trying to get an athletic scholarship for something that last only a few years. At least I can sleep at night knowing that I have my priorities straight and my son too.

Agreed most pre first are kids that need the gift of time before they are ready to be in an academic classroom and the greater expected social and behavioral demands. So your kid needed time and you gave it to him. That has nothing to do with his chronological age in which his body will develop! Put the kids in sports based on birth year! Just because a kid can't sit still in kinder or first, they should now play sports with younger kids their whole life?!?? Ridiculous! Stop coddling kids, they are being weakened, Push your kid to play with their on aged peers, stop holding them back to play younger kids and teach them to work hard and challenge themselves. They don't need their classmates to be on their teams, broaden their horizons to meet kids of their own age and make new friends. I promise you, this will not break your kid. Rules need to be established for K-8 sports to go by birth year- period. Stop with these crazy moving cut offs. My son has made friends with tons of kids from all over in hockey and not being with grade level friends never hurt any of them.

Agreed most pre first are kids that need the gift of time before they are ready to be in an academic classroom and the greater expected social and behavioral demands. So your kid needed time and you gave it to him. That has nothing to do with his chronological age in which his body will develop! Put the kids in sports based on birth year! Just because a kid can't sit still in kinder or first, they should now play sports with younger kids their whole life?!?? Ridiculous! Stop coddling kids, they are being weakened, Push your kid to play with their on aged peers, stop holding them back to play younger kids and teach them to work hard and challenge themselves. They don't need their classmates to be on their teams, broaden their horizons to meet kids of their own age and make new friends. I promise you, this will not break your kid. Rules need to be established for K-8 sports to go by birth year- period. Stop with these crazy moving cut offs. My son has made friends with tons of kids from all over in hockey and not being with grade level friends never hurt any of them.

You sound like another grumpy Madlax Capital 2020 parent who still believes that Madlax can compete with the other HOCO elite teams. The results are in and Madlax got blown out by both NL and Hawks. Madlax also had a chance to compete for the last elite HOCO spot and didn't. NL isn't good? They won the Madlax fall tournament including beating 3D Pacific in the finals. NL beat MDX, Cannons in the HOCO play in and CB, fl$ and RR in a March tournament. You should stop trying to slam other 2020 clubs and take a hard look at the Madlax team. I know its hard to accept the reality of paying Madlax $$ with the promise of having an "elite" team. Maybe you should ask for a refund or have your kid try out for another team.