Girls 2027-8th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023 - US Lacrosse Community Forum

Use this thread to discuss lacrosse pertaining to 8th Grade Girls (2027 Grads) for the Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Season.

Reposting last post from previous SY:

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hot take but yjb could easily be better then yj a. Watching their game against FLG proved it. They don't have the greatest players but make it work, good coaching. Their zone was very good and they worked as a team. They seem to have the things that yj a doesn't have. Next year they could definitely be top 15 if they get a few more good players and keep up with the coaching.

It wouldn’t be the first time YJB beat YJA, love to see that! Keeping grinding girls!

Assuming they keep their top players which is near inpossible for a B team.

Genuine question for some of the parents that have had older kids through the programs.
Does it make more sense to be one of the top player on a “B” team or to seek out an “A” team where they might not see much of the field? Some of these second teams have been doing very well and can argue with a few adjustments and the addition of a few stronger players they would be right there with the “A” teams.

Great question that we faced with our daughter who played on YJB, there were many talented girls on that team, and in fact they played the A team a couple times and beat them. So my daughter was asked to play on the A team, but we left for a different club, as did several others because of the YJ nonsense. We went to TG, which worked out well. YJA never beat them and they were always ranked higher. The problem with playing on a B team, is that you usually (not always) will not get the looks from the top schools. Look at B team commitment lists. I would definitely recommend playing for Legacy, TG, Jesters, or YJA, but only if your daughter is valued and gets decent playing time. Being a top player on B is not as good as being a mid level player on A. If you are on any team, and not seeing meaningful field time, that is definitely not good. It is definitely very stressful trying to make the right decision, Good luck!

Great post. From our experience, the bigger issue with a B teams, especially a YJ B team is that the top players never stick around year to year (until 9th grade). As a result, you never know how competitive the team will be. You can be a top 10 team one year and be lucky to be top 30 the next.

Let the craziness begin!!!!!

What clubs should you stay away from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the craziness begin!!!!!

Just wait until 9th grade when everyone starts becoming a lunatic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the craziness begin!!!!!

Just wait until 9th grade when everyone starts becoming a lunatic

Starts? Are you new here lol???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let the craziness begin!!!!!

Just wait until 9th grade when everyone starts becoming a lunatic

I actually expect a bit less movement on top teams than last year, especially if FLG stays together. Summer before 7th grade is always the biggest year for movement

Not a lot of talk about FLG getting more players, the girls will probably stay together because they all look very close much like aces. I expect a few more players to join the FLG team to make the 15 player roster bigger and possibly more deeper and more talented.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What clubs should you stay away from?

There are not clubs that are bad just some have very bad problems. Top guns has a crazy coach who seems to almost bully his players, his comments are mean but if your daughter can handle it top guns is good (do not compare to FLG YJA ). YJ has the mommy daddy coaching situation. Their roster is very big ( and super talented) but they only play 14-16 players, their coaching is not the greatest they seem to play almost dirty. Jesters is a good mid level club for this age however they do have a parent coach, which is not the worst if he doesn't favor his kid and is good, which looks like he is. FLG has very good coaching but their roster size is very small. Right now if your daughter wanted to join a good top team i would look at FLG because their roster is so small now your daughter will benefit and play. Also YJ B if they got a few more good players they could really be top15.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a lot of talk about FLG getting more players, the girls will probably stay together because they all look very close much like aces. I expect a few more players to join the FLG team to make the 15 player roster bigger and possibly more deeper and more talented.

Why does anyone think this? Not trying to stir it up but kids getting close to high school now. If your daughter is serious about playing lacrosse and wants to do so in college she needs to be at a club that is going to put them in the right tournaments and has a track record of recruiting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a lot of talk about FLG getting more players, the girls will probably stay together because they all look very close much like aces. I expect a few more players to join the FLG team to make the 15 player roster bigger and possibly more deeper and more talented.

Why does anyone think this? Not trying to stir it up but kids getting close to high school now. If your daughter is serious about playing lacrosse and wants to do so in college she needs to be at a club that is going to put them in the right tournaments and has a track record of recruiting.

Before you start saying stuff like this maybe you should see what tournaments FLG has played in this year. They played in big tournaments, and recruiters are not going to go to watch a team because of their club their going to go to a good team that has a good players. You don't need to be on YJ to go to collage for lacrosse. What happened in 2021 summer happened and FLG did not play in good tournaments. This year was different. Recruiters scout good teams and I'm pretty sure any top 10-15 team in the nation is good. Also do you know about LILJ, that is very big on the island. You know who runs it, the Winkoffs, who also run FLG. I'm pretty sure they run numerous events involved with collage coaches and recruiting. Girls on a GOOD flg team will have an advantage with the Winkoffs who have contact with many collage coaches, and the girls have first hand exposure to LILJ and their recruiting events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a lot of talk about FLG getting more players, the girls will probably stay together because they all look very close much like aces. I expect a few more players to join the FLG team to make the 15 player roster bigger and possibly more deeper and more talented.

Why does anyone think this? Not trying to stir it up but kids getting close to high school now. If your daughter is serious about playing lacrosse and wants to do so in college she needs to be at a club that is going to put them in the right tournaments and has a track record of recruiting.

Before you start saying stuff like this maybe you should see what tournaments FLG has played in this year. They played in big tournaments, and recruiters are not going to go to watch a team because of their club their going to go to a good team that has a good players. You don't need to be on YJ to go to collage for lacrosse. What happened in 2021 summer happened and FLG did not play in good tournaments. This year was different. Recruiters scout good teams and I'm pretty sure any top 10-15 team in the nation is good. Also do you know about LILJ, that is very big on the island. You know who runs it, the Winkoffs, who also run FLG. I'm pretty sure they run numerous events involved with collage coaches and recruiting. Girls on a GOOD flg team will have an advantage with the Winkoffs who have contact with many collage coaches, and the girls have first hand exposure to LILJ and their recruiting events.

FLG hasnt had a relevant girls team in years. If this team has finally had some good tourney results then congrats.
Regarding the LILJ that is the biggest joke on LI. NOBODY cares about that FLG slanted uninformed nonsense.
Regarding college contacts YJ, TG are way ahead. Just look at their commits over the years. Jesters has made some in roads with some of their commits lately.
Finally..... if your good..... college coaches will find you.

exactly, if you are good recruiters will find you, doesn't matter if your on a bad team or a good one, your club doesn't define how good you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

exactly, if you are good recruiters will find you, doesn't matter if your on a bad team or a good one, your club doesn't define how good you are.

If you say so

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]exactly, if you are good recruiters will find you, doesn't matter if your on a bad team or a good one, your club doesn't define how good you are.

The YJ sheep sitting the bench are the ones who will have the toughest time. Regardless who you play for need to be on the field

Lots of those “YJ sheep” playing big time college ball.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]exactly, if you are good recruiters will find you, doesn't matter if your on a bad team or a good one, your club doesn't define how good you are.

The YJ sheep sitting the bench are the ones who will have the toughest time. Regardless who you play for need to be on the field

Watch who works hard in the off season. It’s the girls who sat the bench this past season. Then watch who starts next year. This is still only 8th grade. A lot happens before recruiting age. Heck a lot happens before freshman year of HS. Work hard and have fun!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]exactly, if you are good recruiters will find you, doesn't matter if your on a bad team or a good one, your club doesn't define how good you are.

The YJ sheep sitting the bench are the ones who will have the toughest time. Regardless who you play for need to be on the field

Yes and no. Sitting for a great team won’t get you recruited. Dominating against a poor team won’t get you to a top college. People at a club like yj want to go to the best and are disappointed when they don’t call.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]exactly, if you are good recruiters will find you, doesn't matter if your on a bad team or a good one, your club doesn't define how good you are.

The YJ sheep sitting the bench are the ones who will have the toughest time. Regardless who you play for need to be on the field

Watch who works hard in the off season. It’s the girls who sat the bench this past season. Then watch who starts next year. This is still only 8th grade. A lot happens before recruiting age. Heck a lot happens before freshman year of HS. Work hard and have fun!

Remember thought that YJ will likely bring in some new players to address some of their team issues (speed at both midfield and D, draw circle). Reality is that many of the bench girls from this year will be playing on the B team or another club next season. Even some starters from this season will likely find playing time sparse come next summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]exactly, if you are good recruiters will find you, doesn't matter if your on a bad team or a good one, your club doesn't define how good you are.

The YJ sheep sitting the bench are the ones who will have the toughest time. Regardless who you play for need to be on the field

Watch who works hard in the off season. It’s the girls who sat the bench this past season. Then watch who starts next year. This is still only 8th grade. A lot happens before recruiting age. Heck a lot happens before freshman year of HS. Work hard and have fun!

You think the YJ starters aren't working hard too? YJ bench are as good as anyone. Sad they don't get any minutes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of those “YJ sheep” playing big time college ball.

spoken like a true sheep. keep telling yourself that

lots of people obsessing w yj. every travel team brings in new kids each year. lots of clubs on LI. figure out what is good for your kid....not you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]exactly, if you are good recruiters will find you, doesn't matter if your on a bad team or a good one, your club doesn't define how good you are.

The YJ sheep sitting the bench are the ones who will have the toughest time. Regardless who you play for need to be on the field

Watch who works hard in the off season. It’s the girls who sat the bench this past season. Then watch who starts next year. This is still only 8th grade. A lot happens before recruiting age. Heck a lot happens before freshman year of HS. Work hard and have fun!

Remember thought that YJ will likely bring in some new players to address some of their team issues (speed at both midfield and D, draw circle). Reality is that many of the bench girls from this year will be playing on the B team or another club next season. Even some starters from this season will likely find playing time sparse come next summer.

Does everyone who tries out for YJ just pay the deposit at the other clubs and then just leave? YJs tryouts are so much later.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]exactly, if you are good recruiters will find you, doesn't matter if your on a bad team or a good one, your club doesn't define how good you are.

The YJ sheep sitting the bench are the ones who will have the toughest time. Regardless who you play for need to be on the field

Watch who works hard in the off season. It’s the girls who sat the bench this past season. Then watch who starts next year. This is still only 8th grade. A lot happens before recruiting age. Heck a lot happens before freshman year of HS. Work hard and have fun!

Remember thought that YJ will likely bring in some new players to address some of their team issues (speed at both midfield and D, draw circle). Reality is that many of the bench girls from this year will be playing on the B team or another club next season. Even some starters from this season will likely find playing time sparse come next summer.

Does everyone who tries out for YJ just pay the deposit at the other clubs and then just leave? YJs tryouts are so much later.

Pretty much.
That $500 deposit you lose at other clubs is nothing compared to the training you will need to do to play for a team like YJ. Welcome to the sport where the wealthy kids succeed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]exactly, if you are good recruiters will find you, doesn't matter if your on a bad team or a good one, your club doesn't define how good you are.

The YJ sheep sitting the bench are the ones who will have the toughest time. Regardless who you play for need to be on the field

Watch who works hard in the off season. It’s the girls who sat the bench this past season. Then watch who starts next year. This is still only 8th grade. A lot happens before recruiting age. Heck a lot happens before freshman year of HS. Work hard and have fun!

You think the YJ starters aren't working hard too? YJ bench are as good as anyone. Sad they don't get any minutes.

Should go to a team on the rise. With their help could beat those keeping them on the bench

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]exactly, if you are good recruiters will find you, doesn't matter if your on a bad team or a good one, your club doesn't define how good you are.

The YJ sheep sitting the bench are the ones who will have the toughest time. Regardless who you play for need to be on the field

Watch who works hard in the off season. It’s the girls who sat the bench this past season. Then watch who starts next year. This is still only 8th grade. A lot happens before recruiting age. Heck a lot happens before freshman year of HS. Work hard and have fun!

You think the YJ starters aren't working hard too? YJ bench are as good as anyone. Sad they don't get any minutes.

Sad their parents don't get them on another team...

Heard numbers at Legacy tryouts were large. FLG is also tonight.

Legacy has a great deal 3 days for 75 bucks

Too bad so many good clubs are in suffolk county. Where do Nassau kids go? Besides Liberty, where do kids go?

Feedback on liberty? Both teams? Spare me the typical responses. How do they treat the girls side? How are the coaches? Don’t care about wins, are the girls learning and improving? Thanks

Our daughter has played on Liberty Black now for a few years and she could not be happier. The girls have a nice chemistry and you have seen some strong development on both sides of the ball. The team is made up of girls who play multiple sports but who have started to focus more on lacrosse. Danielle Gallagher's knowledge of the game is why so many girls come to Liberty and she is heavily involved in practices and winter clinics. Both Amanda Johansen and Danielle Etrasco are also involved in practice planning and winter clinics and have played the game at the highest level both playing for the USA and Professional teams. The 2027 Black team has two full-time coaches who the players love playing for. One of the coaches is a parent, but the girls love his energy and devotion to the team.

Reach out to any family or player and get their thoughts because 95% will have very positive things to say about their experience with Liberty. Liberty is a club that will be in all of the big tournaments going forward if that is something that you are focused on. And if your daughter is an A- or B+ player looking to take her game to the next level and get more playing time on the field, this is a great option. This team played M&D to a tie at half, tied FLG, and only lost to YJ A 8-5. Haters will point to bad loses against Eagle Stix and Aces, but those were outliers and not reflective of the season this team had.

If you want your daughter to learn from some of the best and have fun playing the game with a bunch of great girls, Liberty is definitely worth checking out.

Liberty Red gets to work with a lot of the same coaches, but plays in the appropriate tournaments and brackets for the their ability. If your daughter is newer to the game but wants to get better and have fun, this is also a great option. I like to judge it by how the girls on this team are always smiling and having fun with each other. And at the end of the day if lacrosse is not the end all be all for your daughter, shouldn't having fun be the main objective.

Liberty tryouts are this Friday, July 29th and definitely worth checking out for players who want to make a difference and contribute to a team that is on the rise and developing high level players.

Any feedback about Lax On, lots of kids at tryouts.
Program seems great, anyone have experience!

"And if your daughter is an A- or B+ player looking to take her game to the next level and get more playing time on the field, this is a great option."

Well said!

The best girls in Nassau play on TG. Last season, 5/9 NC All-Americans were TG players, four of which were only juniors. I know two of them left Liberty a few years ago because they were concerned their daughters were not being challenged and worried about recruiting.

Agree wholeheartedly! My daughter joined Black this year and she/we couldn’t be happier. Two of her good friends on Red since 5th grade and have been very pleased as well. Definitely worth going to the tryouts and getting a pulse on the teams.

Worried about recruiting in 4th grade? Wow!

4th grade turns into 8th grade real quick. Not easy to break an A team roster after middle school. It’s important to have a long term plan

You will get mixed answers. The Red team takes everyone. Anyone that says they don’t is lying. The A team has dropped in the rankings since last year and is a steep drop off from the A teams that get a lot of chatter on here. As for what the poster above said about playing top tournaments, they didn’t this summer. They played a few but plenty of lesser tournaments as well. Key for this team is keeping their top players. They lost a few last year and assume they will again this year. They definitely have girls that sit the bench most of the time even with the tight numbers on the roster. That said the coach is amazing and well regarded and definitely dedicated.

How about some feedback on empire? Both teams. Thanks

Empire 18th in NY and 96th in the country. 7-14 this season and hardly played anyone. What's your goal? To be on a team? Go for it

Empire a good program, off the radar with no politics.

Fear the Chartreuse!

How many does Empire carry on each roster?

20

FLG or YJ? Which is better, not talking about the club just talking about the team, YJ goes to a few mor tourneys, but FLG went to good ones this year, maybe more next year. If I put my daughter on one of those teams which will she play on and benefit more from.

Go back and read for pages on YJ and FLG. Are you talking A or B teams? YJ seems to play only the top few and the rest sit. FLG has a tighter roster and seems to play everyone. The debate on who’s better will go on forever. You will never get an unbiased answer here.

Talking about the A FLG and YJ teams, it used to be YJ is better by a long shot, FLG has gotten better, Right now they are pretty much neck to neck. But on YJ you will only benifit if you've been on the team for years, it is hard for new players to get a good spot on that team. FLG you would certainly be playing, and the coaching is most definitely better then YJ. If FLG can get a few more good players and keep their coach they could be much better then YJ. If YJ can get a better coaching staff they will be better ( that is a very big IF for yj). YJ carry's a great roster with many talented girls, if they had a coach like FLG they could really be top 4. FLG is also very talented I'm excited to see if they get a few more good players because they could truely be top 5 too.

For what it’s worth, my daughter is on a top 2 MD team, and we would take FLG every day over YJ.

Because they’re easier to play against for your daughter and her teammates!

I agree they are neck in neck, but if you want your daughter to play and get better I would chose FLG, for maybe any other age I would choose YJ over any LI team. FLG for this year is well coached, this girls are really close too. I assume the parent that wrote before is a YJ parent. I'm pretty sure they beat you not too long ago.

A good goalie can make any coach look good

And a good goalie needs good attackers who know how to ride properly, two way middies and a strong defense = TEAM PLAY!

New club named PLAY?

Anyone know if there was movement from the Empire white team to the green team?

Also, did they just take everyone that was at tryouts? The numbers weren’t huge at tryouts so I am curious.

Does everyone make a team at Liberty? How hard is it to make Black vs Red?

Who cares????? Tryouts have been very thin at a lot of clubs.

FLG has a great group of kids who get along and like each other. The difference is the coaching staff; they get the most out of each kid.

What are considered the top Fall Tournaments for 2027 girls? I am sure many girls play soccer or field hockey in the fall. Do teams have to start focusing on lacrosse at this age in the fall? Are there any true three sport athletes anymore?

Also a random question. How do you reply to threads and have them show up under a question? Some seem to be linked under a question. Other responses just seem to be a new thread.

Facts…. This team should stay together… however they should move collectively to a club such as YJ or Jesters that will pave a path forward. Add a few from their squad, get deeper in roster and go to bigger tourneys as the recruiting years are right the corner -

Most girls do play multiple sports, however, focus on lacrosse when there is a conflict. Reality is that most club team install their offenses in the fall and if you miss too many fall practices you will be behind.

Biggest fall tourneys are

Lax For The Cure (1-day)
Fall Draw (1-day)
Chespeake Invite
Mid Atlantic Fall
Live Love Lax

For high school aged girls, IWLCA in Dallas is a major recruiting event.

Lot of YJ girls at 91 tryouts. 91 does it right. They will be a force to reckone with

This has to be joke post. Team 91 played in one A level tourney [USA lax nationals) and got blown out in every game.

They are a C level club at best.

Do your own research. I saw the flg yja comments but when you do research you’ll see a major difference. Flg has one great win bs yja (which is awesome) but that’s it. Us club lacrosse shows the outcomes. Yja won the mid Atlantic club championships. They beat eagle sticks, alliance ca, and m&d in the SAME DAY. They also beat aces the weekend before. If you look deep they beat every top 10 team this summer except the Florida team who didn’t come up to play. Do read
This for info,but do your own DD to look at teams for your daughter. Somebody saying those two teams are even is fool.

Agreed..

Yes it is arguable that yj and flg are neck to neck, but it's hard to compare when flg has not had the chance to play these top teams yet expect for heros. Most definitely this coming year Flg will play these top teams more. This is what I think both teams have the edge in.

Coaching
Flg

Schedule
YJ, flg schedule could get better next szn

Playing (playing time)
Flg (easily)

Playing
Flg great team lacrosse

Roster
Yj easily, talented roster with lots of good players

Personally I would put my daughter on FLG if i wanted her to play and get better, I hope FLG gets a better schedule

FLG is a good team. But until they start playing (and beating) top teams, they will always be behind YJ

Agreed. This FLG team is special but still hasn’t grinded it out against as much top teams as YJA. But they are respected.

MD parent here, outside of the big three (Hero's M&D BLC) which MD team do you guys think is the best, which one do you think is the toughest to beat and why?
Interested to see if it varies from MD opinion.

MD parent here, outside of the big three (Hero's M&D BLC) which MD team do you guys think is the best, which one do you think is the toughest to beat and why?
Interested to see if it varies from MD opinion
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good question. I think NEMS is probably the most talented, but there are clearly a 3 or 4 girl team. In terms of the best "team", I would probably say MD United. They have no stars, but play really well together.

NEMS lost their top-3 players to M&D this summer, so NEMS may not be close to what they were before.

MDU seems to have any number of girls that can step up and score, hard to focus on any one player. They are well coached for sure, their ride is tough as well.

Agree FLG, TGB and YJB play so many lower ranked teams and blow them out, granted they play some good teams here and there and can definitely give those good teams a run for their money (and even beat them) but it's weird they choose to play in so many lower brackets. How does that all work? Is it all to boost their rankings? Just seems like a lot of the teams they play at tournaments are so far beneath them in capability...it seems like a waste of time and effort, unless it has to do with rankings I just don't get it?

The Jesters are an up and coming team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree FLG, TGB and YJB play so many lower ranked teams and blow them out, granted they play some good teams here and there and can definitely give those good teams a run for their money (and even beat them) but it's weird they choose to play in so many lower brackets. How does that all work? Is it all to boost their rankings? Just seems like a lot of the teams they play at tournaments are so far beneath them in capability...it seems like a waste of time and effort, unless it has to do with rankings I just don't get it?

I have spoken to FLG parents about this. The team wants top tourneys and top brackets but it’s on the club directors to make that happen.

FLG Parents may want it, but it is unlikely to happen at least for next year. Entries for all major tourneys are pretty much locked.

Live Love Lax Summer is the only major tourney they are in. They aren't in summer genesis, either Lax For the Cure or Maryland Cup.

These tourneys have often multi-year waitlists and it doesn't help to only have one competitive team.

This is the same poster on the rankings! Who gives a [Censored]! You’re the same present who stands around the water cooler bragging how my daughter is on the #x team and your daughter probably sits the bench!
What don’t you get. They set it up so you win some, compete some and see how you do against top competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This has to be joke post. Team 91 played in one A level tourney [USA lax nationals) and got blown out in every game.

They are a C level club at best.

You mean the club that had to change their girls side to 91 bandits from 91 and merge with another c level program to stay afloat ?

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The Jesters are an up and coming team

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The Jesters are an up and coming team

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The Jesters are an up and coming team

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The Jesters are an up and coming team

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The Jesters are an up and coming team

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The Jesters are an up and coming team

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The Jesters are an up and coming team

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Agree FLG, TGB and YJB play so many lower ranked teams and blow them out, granted they play some good teams here and there and can definitely give those good teams a run for their money (and even beat them) but it's weird they choose to play in so many lower brackets. How does that all work? Is it all to boost their rankings? Just seems like a lot of the teams they play at tournaments are so far beneath them in capability...it seems like a waste of time and effort, unless it has to do with rankings I just don't get it?

I have spoken to FLG parents about this. The team wants top tourneys and top brackets but it’s on the club directors to make that happen.

Jesters has a good team but the coaches aren’t the
best! Daddy coach, all about his daughter and his favorites.

Considering sending my daughter to Jesters. What’s the scoop on the coaches? Seems like the team had major improvement this year.

Liberty has to be one of the worst. They have zero clue how to hold a tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters has a good team but the coaches aren’t the
best! Daddy coach, all about his daughter and his favorites.

Seems to be the trend of this program among others. Jesters becoming very YJ like. Too many kids per age group at tryouts. 24 thread talking about how unhappy they were with their daddy coach as well and same complaint FAVORITISM to his kid and her buddies.

Jesters may be on the up and up, but if that means paralleling what. YJ does with parent coaches and abcdefg teams, what’s the point. Getting greedy with too many teams and not being willing to use the cashola from those teams to pay good coaches instead of parents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty has to be one of the worst. They have zero clue how to hold a tryout.

What do you mean? My daughter tried out and is seriously considering moving there

Jesters only carries 20-21 girls on their black teams. Far from the 25-27 carried by YJ, TG or Leagcy.

Not 100% sure about 27. But I watched the 28 Liberty tryouts and talked to parents about it. I think they did a fairly good job....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters only carries 20-21 girls on their black teams. Far from the 25-27 carried by YJ, TG or Leagcy.

This is because Jesters will gladly have b, c, d, and e teams in addition so long as the sheep pay...besides YJ you are also way overstating the roster size of other teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters only carries 20-21 girls on their black teams. Far from the 25-27 carried by YJ, TG or Leagcy.

This is because Jesters will gladly have b, c, d, and e teams in addition so long as the sheep pay...besides YJ you are also way overstating the roster size of other teams

Look if a parent is the head coach of the team. If so that should be your reason to go elsewhere

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty has to be one of the worst. They have zero clue how to hold a tryout.

The tryouts for Liberty (and most other top clubs) are really only for B teams and a revenue generator. Any girls serious about the top team has already worked in with them during the summer. Very very rare for someone the club has never seen before to come into a tryout cold and make the top team

It may be rare but word is that’s exactly what Liberty did. Dropped players after seeing brand new talent from other clubs show up at tryout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It may be rare but word is that’s exactly what Liberty did. Dropped players after seeing brand new talent from other clubs show up at tryout.

That’s because liberty isn’t a top club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It may be rare but word is that’s exactly what Liberty did. Dropped players after seeing brand new talent from other clubs show up at tryout.

They dropped girls from their A team? I know girls from their A team were at FLG and TG tryouts ([Censored] to get posted on their instagrams). Curious if you will see Liberty A girls at YJ tryouts.

No one was at FLG tryouts. Hence supplemental. Nice try.

I am from Heros, my daughter is on the team. This whole YJ and FLG debate will never go to rest. To me YJ is very good but their coaching is their downfall. They have great great players but most of them don't see the feild. When a team like YJ is forced into a settled offense it is hard for them to covert against another good defense because their offense isn't well coached , they run off of fast break and free pos. Yes FLG is very good and I would pick them over YJ everyday flg does not have a deep roster like them. FLG coaching is incredible and everyone plays, but I have not seen them play against other top 10 teams so it's hard to compare FLG and YJ. Now FLG is in better tournaments and are no longer playing these bad teams anymore. I hope to see them in good ones in the fall, i enjoy playing them, playing YJ is almost non enjoyable because they play very scrappy. FLG is very good they definitely deserve the top 10 ranking, if they get a few more solid players they could really be step up even more. If I was from LI i would put my daughter on FLG if I wanted her to grow and play, but YJ is a good option, I would just be scared about my kids playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am from Heros, my daughter is on the team. This whole YJ and FLG debate will never go to rest. To me YJ is very good but their coaching is their downfall. They have great great players but most of them don't see the feild. When a team like YJ is forced into a settled offense it is hard for them to covert against another good defense because their offense isn't well coached , they run off of fast break and free pos. Yes FLG is very good and I would pick them over YJ everyday flg does not have a deep roster like them. FLG coaching is incredible and everyone plays, but I have not seen them play against other top 10 teams so it's hard to compare FLG and YJ. Now FLG is in better tournaments and are no longer playing these bad teams anymore. I hope to see them in good ones in the fall, i enjoy playing them, playing YJ is almost non enjoyable because they play very scrappy. FLG is very good they definitely deserve the top 10 ranking, if they get a few more solid players they could really be step up even more. If I was from LI i would put my daughter on FLG if I wanted her to grow and play, but YJ is a good option, I would just be scared about my kids playing time.

Right I’m sure you’re from Hero’s…you just sound a little bit like a certain director of a certain club your clamoring on about

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It may be rare but word is that’s exactly what Liberty did. Dropped players after seeing brand new talent from other clubs show up at tryout.

They dropped girls from their A team? I know girls from their A team were at FLG and TG tryouts ([Censored] to get posted on their instagrams). Curious if you will see Liberty A girls at YJ tryouts.

Liberty doesn’t play in the right tournaments.
Who did they get from other clubs? Girls who didn’t make the A teams.

First time back on here in a while and unfortunately this forum has been hijacked by a few unhappy and uniformed parents. Reading the comments on Jesters Daddy coaches, Liberty Tryouts, B Teams, who are believed to be the better Clubs, and what is best for players makes you realize the best thing you can do is stay off this forum.

Go find someone you respect who you can talk to in person and who has played the game or has older kids who have already gone through the process. If you continue to go by what the few miserable parents whose daughter clearly isn't getting playing time or got cut this summer, you are hurting your daughter and family. Too many people on this 2027 forum who think they have a clue on the process. Forums are obviously all about opinions, but please don't base your daughters lacrosse development and happiness on anything in this one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am from Heros, my daughter is on the team. This whole YJ and FLG debate will never go to rest. To me YJ is very good but their coaching is their downfall. They have great great players but most of them don't see the feild. When a team like YJ is forced into a settled offense it is hard for them to covert against another good defense because their offense isn't well coached , they run off of fast break and free pos. Yes FLG is very good and I would pick them over YJ everyday flg does not have a deep roster like them. FLG coaching is incredible and everyone plays, but I have not seen them play against other top 10 teams so it's hard to compare FLG and YJ. Now FLG is in better tournaments and are no longer playing these bad teams anymore. I hope to see them in good ones in the fall, i enjoy playing them, playing YJ is almost non enjoyable because they play very scrappy. FLG is very good they definitely deserve the top 10 ranking, if they get a few more solid players they could really be step up even more. If I was from LI i would put my daughter on FLG if I wanted her to grow and play, but YJ is a good option, I would just be scared about my kids playing time.

Dont even know who Heros is, but you are giving an in-depth review of LI teams. Yea right. Sorry director.

Nope. It’s the age old argument on this forum. Stay and ride the bench on a better team or find a place to play and grow (and be happy). See below ⬇️ Some times it isn’t about the “rankings”. It’s about doing right by your own kid and not getting caught up in the drama and gossip. Too bad we aren’t teaching our kids to root for each other. I know I am.

Well said...don't listen to the disgruntled on here. I would suggest going to check out those coaches during a practice or tourney before you accept something written here by someone whose daughter simply isn't getting it done and wants to point the finger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am from Heros, my daughter is on the team. This whole YJ and FLG debate will never go to rest. To me YJ is very good but their coaching is their downfall. They have great great players but most of them don't see the feild. When a team like YJ is forced into a settled offense it is hard for them to covert against another good defense because their offense isn't well coached , they run off of fast break and free pos. Yes FLG is very good and I would pick them over YJ everyday flg does not have a deep roster like them. FLG coaching is incredible and everyone plays, but I have not seen them play against other top 10 teams so it's hard to compare FLG and YJ. Now FLG is in better tournaments and are no longer playing these bad teams anymore. I hope to see them in good ones in the fall, i enjoy playing them, playing YJ is almost non enjoyable because they play very scrappy. FLG is very good they definitely deserve the top 10 ranking, if they get a few more solid players they could really be step up even more. If I was from LI i would put my daughter on FLG if I wanted her to grow and play, but YJ is a good option, I would just be scared about my kids playing time.

Dont even know who Heros is, but you are giving an in-depth review of LI teams. Yea right. Sorry director.

Based on the quality of the writing.....I would assume this is a kid from a local L.I. team. If not, someone' needs needs to consider staying off the keyboard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am from Heros, my daughter is on the team. This whole YJ and FLG debate will never go to rest. To me YJ is very good but their coaching is their downfall. They have great great players but most of them don't see the feild. When a team like YJ is forced into a settled offense it is hard for them to covert against another good defense because their offense isn't well coached , they run off of fast break and free pos. Yes FLG is very good and I would pick them over YJ everyday flg does not have a deep roster like them. FLG coaching is incredible and everyone plays, but I have not seen them play against other top 10 teams so it's hard to compare FLG and YJ. Now FLG is in better tournaments and are no longer playing these bad teams anymore. I hope to see them in good ones in the fall, i enjoy playing them, playing YJ is almost non enjoyable because they play very scrappy. FLG is very good they definitely deserve the top 10 ranking, if they get a few more solid players they could really be step up even more. If I was from LI i would put my daughter on FLG if I wanted her to grow and play, but YJ is a good option, I would just be scared about my kids playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am from Heros, my daughter is on the team. This whole YJ and FLG debate will never go to rest. To me YJ is very good but their coaching is their downfall. They have great great players but most of them don't see the feild. When a team like YJ is forced into a settled offense it is hard for them to covert against another good defense because their offense isn't well coached , they run off of fast break and free pos. Yes FLG is very good and I would pick them over YJ everyday flg does not have a deep roster like them. FLG coaching is incredible and everyone plays, but I have not seen them play against other top 10 teams so it's hard to compare FLG and YJ. Now FLG is in better tournaments and are no longer playing these bad teams anymore. I hope to see them in good ones in the fall, i enjoy playing them, playing YJ is almost non enjoyable because they play very scrappy. FLG is very good they definitely deserve the top 10 ranking, if they get a few more solid players they could really be step up even more. If I was from LI i would put my daughter on FLG if I wanted her to grow and play, but YJ is a good option, I would just be scared about my kids playing time.

Dont even know who Heros is, but you are giving an in-depth review of LI teams. Yea right. Sorry director.

More likely a YJ parent.

Hero's parent, tell me the jersey number of the girl who left after fall tournament and where did she go to?

By favorites you must mean better players. These are competitive teams...of course the better players (aka favorites) play a large role. From youth through professional sports, there are main (star) players and role players. It has nothing to do with whether or not the coach is a parent coach. That only becomes an issue when the parent coaches kid clearly isn't a good player but is treated like one. Not the case at Jesters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am from Heros, my daughter is on the team. This whole YJ and FLG debate will never go to rest. To me YJ is very good but their coaching is their downfall. They have great great players but most of them don't see the feild. When a team like YJ is forced into a settled offense it is hard for them to covert against another good defense because their offense isn't well coached , they run off of fast break and free pos. Yes FLG is very good and I would pick them over YJ everyday flg does not have a deep roster like them. FLG coaching is incredible and everyone plays, but I have not seen them play against other top 10 teams so it's hard to compare FLG and YJ. Now FLG is in better tournaments and are no longer playing these bad teams anymore. I hope to see them in good ones in the fall, i enjoy playing them, playing YJ is almost non enjoyable because they play very scrappy. FLG is very good they definitely deserve the top 10 ranking, if they get a few more solid players they could really be step up even more. If I was from LI i would put my daughter on FLG if I wanted her to grow and play, but YJ is a good option, I would just be scared about my kids playing time.

Dont even know who Heros is, but you are giving an in-depth review of LI teams. Yea right. Sorry director.

Based on the quality of the writing.....I would assume this is a kid from a local L.I. team. If not, someone' needs needs to consider staying off the keyboard

LOL, agree. Has to be a kid. “ be scared about my kids playing time” . If not a kid, maybe an adult that had one too many adult beverages.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hero's parent, tell me the jersey number of the girl who left after fall tournament and where did she go to?

99, BLC. I AM a Heros parent, unlike the other one that posted above claiming to be one. YJ is the far better team, IMO (a probably most on the team). We have only played FLG once (I think?), and while they were decent, they did not really give our girls a problem. YJ Graz, on the other hand, is always a slug fest with us. Never know who is going to win that game on any given day.

Why all the FLG talk? Program blows except for one year (look up yearly rankings for each club) . In reality you have a better chance your kids getting looks on legacy for college if that’s what you’re going for….and that’s not saying much.

Are "B" Teams all about the money?

Lacrosse is certainly a business. But the second team in some Clubs is exactly what certain players need to build confidence. "But they aren't playing against the best of the best!" Maybe that is not what is best for every player at this point in time. GET ON THE FIELD and play at a Club at any level and where your daughter DEVELOPS and builds CONFIDENCE! If the player wants to get better and put in the time, find the right coaches putting in the time with their players.

The parents who can block out all the other noise are giving their daughter a major advantage in the away they approach this all.

#laxislife

Originally Posted by Anonymous

By favorites you must mean better players. These are competitive teams...of course the better players (aka favorites) play a large role. From youth through professional sports, there are main (star) players and role players. It has nothing to do with whether or not the coach is a parent coach. That only becomes an issue when the parent coaches kid clearly isn't a good player but is treated like one. Not the case at Jesters.

Well, hearing from parents on the dad coached Jesters team in question, It sounds fishy. Seems like it was more of a showcase team for the daddy coaches daughter? Maybe the other players did not get a fair shot?

It’s a shame as we know the girls and there is some very good players who got overlooked for “daddy’s girl” and all the plays that lead to her. It’s Too bad, could have been a much better, well rounded team without dad involved! When will the clubs learns learn the lesson of non parent coached teams are better and less toxic!?

Sounds like another parent whose kid couldn't make the team.

The parent coach with a daughter playing at a high level is an easy target to place blame on. Should consider spending less time here and more time working with your daughter. Good luck.

Is it possible that some times really good players get cut? That maybe one coach doesn’t see in them what another does? Maybe they haven’t hit their potential yet. Maybe a they aren’t mature enough yet, or haven’t committed completely to lacrosse and are playing multiple sports.They are 13-year-old girls and it’s very possible that the best player in college some day is sitting on a B team after being cut. Or maybe she hasn’t even made it to an A team yet because she just hasn’t bloomed. Is it possible that all you have this figured out and like to talk rankings, who isn’t getting playing time and who is getting cut have missed the bigger picture?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it possible that some times really good players get cut? That maybe one coach doesn’t see in them what another does? Maybe they haven’t hit their potential yet. Maybe a they aren’t mature enough yet, or haven’t committed completely to lacrosse and are playing multiple sports.They are 13-year-old girls and it’s very possible that the best player in college some day is sitting on a B team after being cut. Or maybe she hasn’t even made it to an A team yet because she just hasn’t bloomed. Is it possible that all you have this figured out and like to talk rankings, who isn’t getting playing time and who is getting cut have missed the bigger picture?

remember tryouts are ultimately one person's opinion and people can often disagree on talent and potential.

As you get closer to high school, though, one thing that starts to play a bigger factor in tryouts is recruit ability. This means some smaller girls (who don't have elite speed) may get passed over for some bigger ones who are more likely to be recruited by top teams.

Clubs know their ability to get girls recruited is their currency and they will often try to ensure they are carrying the most recruitable girls, even if they aren't currently the best players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it possible that some times really good players get cut? That maybe one coach doesn’t see in them what another does? Maybe they haven’t hit their potential yet. Maybe a they aren’t mature enough yet, or haven’t committed completely to lacrosse and are playing multiple sports.They are 13-year-old girls and it’s very possible that the best player in college some day is sitting on a B team after being cut. Or maybe she hasn’t even made it to an A team yet because she just hasn’t bloomed. Is it possible that all you have this figured out and like to talk rankings, who isn’t getting playing time and who is getting cut have missed the bigger picture?

I saw it on my older kid's team. The boy in question was good for 5 points a game but wasn't particularly flashy or overly athletic. His lax IQ was off the chart, and he was always in the right place at the right time and saw the plays developing before everyone else. There was a coaching change; the new coach cut him at tryouts. All the parents were speechless. So yes, it can and does happen.

At this age and above there should be no parents coaching, simple as that. The clubs at his level with dads coaching it is pretty obvious the favoritism. Early years is one thing but as high school approaches it just shouldn’t happen.

Anyone know what Jesters “blue” team is all about?

Good luck finding non parent coaches to coach the hundreds of club teams. The numbers needed doesn't exist...and certainly not quality ones. I will say this, outside of the A teams, the biggest turnover in coaching occurs with non parent coaches.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It may be rare but word is that’s exactly what Liberty did. Dropped players after seeing brand new talent from other clubs show up at tryout.

Isn't that what a tryout is supposed to accomplish?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At this age and above there should be no parents coaching, simple as that. The clubs at his level with dads coaching it is pretty obvious the favoritism. Early years is one thing but as high school approaches it just shouldn’t happen.

Someone said it earlier, but I think you need to look at every situation differently.

Our daughter was new to Liberty Black 2027 this past season and could not have had a better experience with our parent coach. You can see what energy and dedication can bring to a team and the girls respond well to him. No favoritism and he went above and beyond which benefited all of the girls and the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know what Jesters “blue” team is all about?

it is about money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know what Jesters “blue” team is all about?

it is about money.

It’s their A team. Black is AA blue is A

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know what Jesters “blue” team is all about?

it is about money.

It’s their A team. Black is AA blue is A

So they made up “AA” so they didn’t have to call the A team what it really is, a B team? Do they really think parents are so ignorant to believe this [Censored]. They shout be embarrassed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know what Jesters “blue” team is all about?

it is about money.

It’s their A team. Black is AA blue is A

Let’s call it what it is…blue is the B team they now have 4 teams at one age level which is wild

No favoritism?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At this age and above there should be no parents coaching, simple as that. The clubs at his level with dads coaching it is pretty obvious the favoritism. Early years is one thing but as high school approaches it just shouldn’t happen.

Someone said it earlier, but I think you need to look at every situation differently.

Our daughter was new to Liberty Black 2027 this past season and could not have had a better experience with our parent coach. You can see what energy and dedication can bring to a team and the girls respond well to him. No favoritism and he went above and beyond which benefited all of the girls and the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your mistake for thinking this is a showcase. It’s a championship tournament. Play the best to win. Cut roster down to 20 and 2 weaker players are gone. Makes everything easier. You play to win the game. The Grizzlies did.

Cut down roster? Be serious. That means less $$ for YJ/Steps.

I think the solution is capping # of girls per club.

And yes, this is a showcase. Like any lax tourney after spring of freshman year. Coaches who aren't showcasing players aren't doing anyone any favors.

AA, A, B, Black, Blue, etc., who cares, let’s see where these teams end up ranked and how the club experience is. I doubt the YJ second team thinks of themselves as a “B” team, they are really talented and can beat anyone on any given day. Some clubs could pull off 2 talented teams, by the looks of tryouts with tons of kids, the talent was there to have 2 talented teams. This is a strong age group, which is great for all the girls, lots of options for them to play and get better across Long Island.

Good for Jesters. 4 teams. Program is growing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know what Jesters “blue” team is all about?

it is about money.

It’s their A team. Black is AA blue is A

Let’s call it what it is…blue is the B team they now have 4 teams at one age level which is wild

They had enough girls at tryouts to make an entirely new team? Can’t imagine pink and whit will get any attention. Will be interesting to see how this works out. 4 teams is nuts and a complete money grab

I was at the jesters tryouts. I was shocked at how many girls were there, had to be 100. And also was very impressed at the talent. Do I think 4 teams can work? Honestly who knows, I personally doubt it but either way they had a ton of talent there.

Also why would they not keep the pink team as the b team? They had a full season this past year, unless they weren’t happy with the results and want to start over…

I was told that they are making a strong push for 2 A teams and they are taking a mix of black, pink and new players. Will blue be as good as black, obviously not. But based off tryouts alone, I would expect the Blue team to be pretty good. My info is coming from a parent of a black player who said this was a long
Time coming. They will only play in A tourneys. Obviously time will tell.

If you call taking one player from the black team a mix of black, sure !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was told that they are making a strong push for 2 A teams and they are taking a mix of black, pink and new players. Will blue be as good as black, obviously not. But based off tryouts alone, I would expect the Blue team to be pretty good. My info is coming from a parent of a black player who said this was a long
Time coming. They will only play in A tourneys. Obviously time will tell.

It’s a long time coming to have four teams??? All this is is a money grab cmon be honest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was told that they are making a strong push for 2 A teams and they are taking a mix of black, pink and new players. Will blue be as good as black, obviously not. But based off tryouts alone, I would expect the Blue team to be pretty good. My info is coming from a parent of a black player who said this was a long
Time coming. They will only play in A tourneys. Obviously time will tell.

May play in "A" tournaments. But will play in lowest brackets. How fun. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was told that they are making a strong push for 2 A teams and they are taking a mix of black, pink and new players. Will blue be as good as black, obviously not. But based off tryouts alone, I would expect the Blue team to be pretty good. My info is coming from a parent of a black player who said this was a long
Time coming. They will only play in A tourneys. Obviously time will tell.

May play in "A" tournaments. But will play in lowest brackets. How fun. Lol

This shows a basic lack of understanding of how tourneys work. Any tourney worth playing in is already full for fall and Summer. Jesters has one team in lax for the cure, one team in live love lax, one team in Chesapeake invite, one team in Mid Atlantic Summer (though they have a blue team in MD cup).

Whatever the second team is, will be playing a B or C schedule. Hopefully, they are honest with parents about this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was at the jesters tryouts. I was shocked at how many girls were there, had to be 100. And also was very impressed at the talent. Do I think 4 teams can work? Honestly who knows, I personally doubt it but either way they had a ton of talent there.

Lots of girls at those tryouts are on other teams and wouldn't accept a B team spot. Doubt they will have numbers to fill more than 2 teams.

Why does everyone care what other people do. If daughter is happy isn't that what matters, not the parents ability to say where and what team my daughter plays on.

Jesters, a lacrosse for profit business having 4 teams based on a great tryout turn out really triggered some people…. The more we’ll trained teams LI has the better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you call taking one player from the black team a mix of black, sure !

If they only took 1 girls from black then where did the rest of the team come from?

Not true...Jesters blue team is going to at least 3-4 legit tourneys that their black team plays in. Sure they will play in lower brackets. No different than other club's second teams.

There will not be a mix of anything. The Blue team is the B team and to top it off brought in a PAL dad coach to accommodate his daughter on that team. Bye

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you call taking one player from the black team a mix of black, sure !

If they only took 1 girls from black then where did the rest of the team come from?

New girls and the pink team from this past summer.
How many new girls made the black team?

Someone clearly isn’t happy getting cut from their Black team, look at the upside, less trips for you down the Jersey turnpike next summer.

Every year same thing all ages, unfortunately kids get cut from their team, the fool parents living through the kid takes an ego hit and [Censored] the program and spreads bad information. Luckily there are lots of lacrosse options for the girls that just want to play lacrosse.

Great time of year, the jilted parents take to the keyboards to release their frustrations. Enjoyable to read how fool some parents are, the clubs likely know who they are too….

7 or 8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not true...Jesters blue team is going to at least 3-4 legit tourneys that their black team plays in. Sure they will play in lower brackets. No different than other club's second teams.

which ones? They aren't in summer Lax For the Cure, Live Love Lax summer, Chesepeake, or Mid Atlantic.

The only "major" tourneys they are in is Live Love Lax fall, Lax For the Sea (hardly a major tourney) and Maryland Cup.

Glad to see someone gets it, it does not matter where they play as long as they are HAPPY first and foremost. If they are good they will play allot, if they are team oriented they may or may not play allot but they are happy. High School and showcase are important and yes club play and A Tourny's will come into play. However if the girl wants to continue playing Lax so be it let it be, one day the over consumed parent may get disappointed and must face reality that the girl is only playing because of friends, likes playing but not driven and may just walk away all together. Just let the young girls be happy and play the game, if they want to stay with a club let them stay, If they complain about playing time or coaching ask the Girl what she would like to do and let them decide. Be a parent and a friend first and listen before making a move every year and worry about who's the best club with the best name and where will they get more playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Glad to see someone gets it, it does not matter where they play as long as they are HAPPY first and foremost. If they are good they will play allot, if they are team oriented they may or may not play allot but they are happy. High School and showcase are important and yes club play and A Tourny's will come into play. However if the girl wants to continue playing Lax so be it let it be, one day the over consumed parent may get disappointed and must face reality that the girl is only playing because of friends, likes playing but not driven and may just walk away all together. Just let the young girls be happy and play the game, if they want to stay with a club let them stay, If they complain about playing time or coaching ask the Girl what she would like to do and let them decide. Be a parent and a friend first and listen before making a move every year and worry about who's the best club with the best name and where will they get more playing time.

Agree with all that. However, if you believe everything on this thread. If sounds like jesters are making some empty promises about the schedule for the blue team.

If a girl is happy there, then great. But if she expects to be playing in all the top summer tourneys, then she (and her paying parents) are in for a rude awakening.

Well said... this forum is therapy for the parents, hope this makes them feel better. The sad part is that the parent's ego hurts more than their respective daughter's. Move on with your negativity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There will not be a mix of anything. The Blue team is the B team and to top it off brought in a PAL dad coach to accommodate his daughter on that team. Bye

When will they announce who the coach is? What does Jesters have to gain from bringing in a PAL coach? Did the guy bring girls with him? Seems odd.

Moving the conversation in a different direction, we are looking at getting a new sports camera for the team. We have used Veo in the past. Its not bad, but the upload time and editing is not the greatest. Does anyone have experience with Trace? Their wearable chip for player motion/ identification seems really cool.

Really strange behavior for an adult to list out all girl tourneys and then dictate who “A” teams are by which tourney they attend. The parent must really want all the tourney lanyards. Tryout season taking its toll

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moving the conversation in a different direction, we are looking at getting a new sports camera for the team. We have used Veo in the past. Its not bad, but the upload time and editing is not the greatest. Does anyone have experience with Trace? Their wearable chip for player motion/ identification seems really cool.

Trace is easier to use and edit and has a ton of bells and whistles like the wearable chip. That said, if there is a team warming up behind one of the goals, it will upset the AI motion sensing technology and you could lose some game footage.

So did Jesters actually fill 4 teams? Did people accept?

Jesters' are not on the radar she is very happy where she is and it was her choice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters' are not on the radar she is very happy where she is and it was her choice.

Huh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Glad to see someone gets it, it does not matter where they play as long as they are HAPPY first and foremost. If they are good they will play allot, if they are team oriented they may or may not play allot but they are happy. High School and showcase are important and yes club play and A Tourny's will come into play. However if the girl wants to continue playing Lax so be it let it be, one day the over consumed parent may get disappointed and must face reality that the girl is only playing because of friends, likes playing but not driven and may just walk away all together. Just let the young girls be happy and play the game, if they want to stay with a club let them stay, If they complain about playing time or coaching ask the Girl what she would like to do and let them decide. Be a parent and a friend first and listen before making a move every year and worry about who's the best club with the best name and where will they get more playing time.

Agree with all that. However, if you believe everything on this thread. If sounds like jesters are making some empty promises about the schedule for the blue team.

If a girl is happy there, then great. But if she expects to be playing in all the top summer tourneys, then she (and her paying parents) are in for a rude awakening.

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Let’s move on from all this Jesters talk!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let’s move on from all this Jesters talk!

Why? It is a hot topic since they seem to have made some major gains this year. If you don’t like a post keep on scrolling. Feel free to post your own question.

Yes, let’s all go back to the usual YJ vs flg talk. It’s so much more fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let’s move on from all this Jesters talk!

What would you like to talk about

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did Jesters actually fill 4 teams? Did people accept?

Why do you care so much? Is your daughter playing on Jesters?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did Jesters actually fill 4 teams? Did people accept?

Why do you care so much? Is your daughter playing on Jesters?

Why can’t this be a curious question? If they were somehow able to field a whole team of “A” or “AA” team it would likely mean that another higher level team suffered a big loss. If you don’t have the new roster for your daughters team you won’t know if it impacted her team.

It is also an interesting thing. New A teams don’t just form out of nowhere. Sheer curiosity. Do you think those talking about who’s better FLG or YJ are only parents of players on that team. It is a forum to discuss lax stuff. What topics should we be talking about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So did Jesters actually fill 4 teams? Did people accept?

Why do you care so much? Is your daughter playing on Jesters?

Why can’t this be a curious question? If they were somehow able to field a whole team of “A” or “AA” team it would likely mean that another higher level team suffered a big loss. If you don’t have the new roster for your daughters team you won’t know if it impacted her team.

It is also an interesting thing. New A teams don’t just form out of nowhere. Sheer curiosity. Do you think those talking about who’s better FLG or YJ are only parents of players on that team. It is a forum to discuss lax stuff. What topics should we be talking about?

First of all, there is no such thing as an AA team. A marketing ploy. Lots of smoke and mirrors in that organization.

Lots of clubs, boys and girls, have 2 strong teams, one always stronger, but most would be happy to be on either. Don’t get caught up in AA vs A vs B, etc. Is your kid happy, most importantly, being trained the right way and around good people.

YJB should be much improved this year as a few quality non-YJ girls are set to join and about 4-5 YJA girls dropping down. Eventually will be similar to 2025 Spallina and 2025 Janelli.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJB should be much improved this year as a few quality non-YJ girls are set to join and about 4-5 YJA girls dropping down. Eventually will be similar to 2025 Spallina and 2025 Janelli.

Not sure about YJA girls dropping down. A few non-starters already moved to Jesters.

A few?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJB should be much improved this year as a few quality non-YJ girls are set to join and about 4-5 YJA girls dropping down. Eventually will be similar to 2025 Spallina and 2025 Janelli.

Not sure about YJA girls dropping down. A few non-starters already moved to Jesters.

Is that how they made this 4th team? Took a group from YJ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJB should be much improved this year as a few quality non-YJ girls are set to join and about 4-5 YJA girls dropping down. Eventually will be similar to 2025 Spallina and 2025 Janelli.

Not sure about YJA girls dropping down. A few non-starters already moved to Jesters.

Is that how they made this 4th team? Took a group from YJ?

Only know of 2 who moved from YJA and one from YJB. All moved to top jesters team (black).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]YJB should be much improved this year as a few quality non-YJ girls are set to join and about 4-5 YJA girls dropping down. Eventually will be similar to 2025 Spallina and 2025 Janelli.

Not sure about YJA girls dropping down. A few non-starters already moved to Jesters.

Is that how they made this 4th team? Took a group from YJ?

Only know of 2 who moved from YJA and one from YJB. All moved to top jesters team (black).

Incorrect

No one knows anything. All speculation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one knows anything. All speculation.

Even if some things are true. We all know everything will chance once YJ tryouts are done.

Who is the top “B” teams? Do they accept most kids that tryout?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is the top “B” teams? Do they accept most kids that tryout?

YJ and FLG are probably the most selective with B teams. Most others don’t make cuts. Clubs like Jesters with multiple teams will gladly take your check and put your kid on a team. Even YJ has a C team for overflow.

Yes clubs like FLG are so selective that they don't even have a 26' team..selective, ha. All clubs make the best A team, followed by the best B team and so on. C teams or even D teams exist for a reason, there is a demand for it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes clubs like FLG are so selective that they don't even have a 26' team..selective, ha. All clubs make the best A team, followed by the best B team and so on. C teams or even D teams exist for a reason, there is a demand for it.

I am not an FLG parent but I think it is safe to say that their B team can beat most other B teams. Having a ‘26 team has nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes clubs like FLG are so selective that they don't even have a 26' team..selective, ha. All clubs make the best A team, followed by the best B team and so on. C teams or even D teams exist for a reason, there is a demand for it.

I am not an FLG parent but I think it is safe to say that their B team can beat most other B teams. Having a ‘26 team has nothing to do with it.

This is a joke right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes clubs like FLG are so selective that they don't even have a 26' team..selective, ha. All clubs make the best A team, followed by the best B team and so on. C teams or even D teams exist for a reason, there is a demand for it.

I am not an FLG parent but I think it is safe to say that their B team can beat most other B teams. Having a ‘26 team has nothing to do with it.

This is a joke right?

Nope

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes clubs like FLG are so selective that they don't even have a 26' team..selective, ha. All clubs make the best A team, followed by the best B team and so on. C teams or even D teams exist for a reason, there is a demand for it.

I am not an FLG parent but I think it is safe to say that their B team can beat most other B teams. Having a ‘26 team has nothing to do with it.

This is a joke right?

What part do you think is a joke? Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes clubs like FLG are so selective that they don't even have a 26' team..selective, ha. All clubs make the best A team, followed by the best B team and so on. C teams or even D teams exist for a reason, there is a demand for it.

I am not an FLG parent but I think it is safe to say that their B team can beat most other B teams. Having a ‘26 team has nothing to do with it.

This is a joke right?

What part do you think is a joke? Just my opinion.

FLG has never been a top club. Extremely overpriced, and they do not deliver on commitments. No way an FLG B team is beating other B teams. Don’t even think their A team would.

FLG is a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes clubs like FLG are so selective that they don't even have a 26' team..selective, ha. All clubs make the best A team, followed by the best B team and so on. C teams or even D teams exist for a reason, there is a demand for it.

I am not an FLG parent but I think it is safe to say that their B team can beat most other B teams. Having a ‘26 team has nothing to do with it.

This is a joke right?

What part do you think is a joke? Just my opinion.

FLG has never been a top club. Extremely overpriced, and they do not deliver on commitments. No way an FLG B team is beating other B teams. Don’t even think their A team would.

I think the YJ “B” team either beat the FLG “A” team or tied them at one of the tournaments this summer.

FLGs B team is not very strong, wouldn't say their A team is a joke though 8th in the country... not bad.

How was the turnout at YJ tryouts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How was the turnout at YJ tryouts?

Decent amount, but felt like less than last year. If I had to guess i'd say 110ish, but at least 20 of them had no legit chance to make any team.

For me, it was more about who wasn't there than who was. A couple of the better B girls and 1 or 2 A girls didn't even try out.

How is that possible when 2027 tryouts have been postponed until tomorrow???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How was the turnout at YJ tryouts?

Decent amount, but felt like less than last year. If I had to guess i'd say 110ish, but at least 20 of them had no legit chance to make any team.

For me, it was more about who wasn't there than who was. A couple of the better B girls and 1 or 2 A girls didn't even try out.

I thought tryouts were moved until Wednesday? Are you just making this up?

Yes there were YJ, Jesters, FLG, Legacy ...... trying out for other teams who cares it's about the girls not the Clubs.

This is why u can not believe half of what is written its all

Let's get back to the real purpose of this page the 13yr old girls playing a came they enjoy and just might want to continue playing through College if they are good enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes there were YJ, Jesters, FLG, Legacy ...... trying out for other teams who cares it's about the girls not the Clubs.

This is why u can not believe half of what is written its all

Let's get back to the real purpose of this page the 13yr old girls playing a came they enjoy and just might want to continue playing through College if they are good enough.

Exactly. This plus some parents still need to understand that results in travel lax don't matter. Who cares about ClubLax or Inside Lacrosse rankings?

Reality is that some girls on YJA won't get D1 offers, but some kids on Legacy and other "second tier" clubs will. Travel should be 100% about development and showcasing your skills.

Fall Draw schedules out today. FLG playing in a C group against 3 teams ranked outside top-50.

Not sure how 3 12-goal wins is going to make that team better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall Draw schedules out today. FLG playing in a C group against 3 teams ranked outside top-50.

Not sure how 3 12-goal wins is going to make that team better.

12 goal wins keep them in the top 10

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall Draw schedules out today. FLG playing in a C group against 3 teams ranked outside top-50.

Not sure how 3 12-goal wins is going to make that team better.

it won't....same old story can't/won't get them into consistently good tournaments - wins don't matter, consistently playing top competition does

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall Draw schedules out today. FLG playing in a C group against 3 teams ranked outside top-50.

Not sure how 3 12-goal wins is going to make that team better.

12 goal wins keep them in the top 10

Because 8th grade computerized lax rankings are meaningful.

I get it if they don't want to play in the top group. But to play one group below Legacy White, really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fall Draw schedules out today. FLG playing in a C group against 3 teams ranked outside top-50.

Not sure how 3 12-goal wins is going to make that team better.

12 goal wins keep them in the top 10

Because 8th grade computerized lax rankings are meaningful.

I get it if they don't want to play in the top group. But to play one group below Legacy White, really?

Where is the Fall draw info? Can you post the link please?

Who cares about FLG. It’s Lax On’s year. Feel the Teal!

I think this person is looking at 2021. i do not believe any of the fall tourny's have posted their schedules. Please Fact not Fiction

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Fall Draw schedules out today. FLG playing in a C group against 3 teams ranked outside top-50.

Not sure how 3 12-goal wins is going to make that team better.

12 goal wins keep them in the top 10

Because 8th grade computerized lax rankings are meaningful.

I get it if they don't want to play in the top group. But to play one group below Legacy White, really?[/quote

Why wouldn’t they want to play in too group? Nonsense.

Sorry TSIC has the schedule up for the Fall Draw

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think this person is looking at 2021. i do not believe any of the fall tourny's have posted their schedules. Please Fact not Fiction

Go to the fall draw website. FLG is playing Philly Blast, CLC C team, Jersey Shore Select

Legacy Blue playing Eagle Stix A, Steps A, Sound

Liberty playing Steps A, CLC, Sound

Legacy White playing CLC B, Snipers, ASK

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think this person is looking at 2021. i do not believe any of the fall tourny's have posted their schedules. Please Fact not Fiction

Go to the fall draw website. FLG is playing Philly Blast, CLC C team, Jersey Shore Select

Legacy Blue playing Eagle Stix A, Steps A, Sound

Liberty playing Steps A, CLC, Sound

Legacy White playing CLC B, Snipers, ASK

How does a team ranked 8th nationally get placed in such a weak bracket?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think this person is looking at 2021. i do not believe any of the fall tourny's have posted their schedules. Please Fact not Fiction

Go to the fall draw website. FLG is playing Philly Blast, CLC C team, Jersey Shore Select

Legacy Blue playing Eagle Stix A, Steps A, Sound

Liberty playing Steps A, CLC, Sound

Legacy White playing CLC B, Snipers, ASK

How does a team ranked 8th nationally get placed in such a weak bracket?

When you sign up for the tournaments, you choose your bracket -- Very competitive -- Elite, Highly competitive, or Competitive.

The top brackets likely picked Elite, the next two picked Highly competitive and the rest (including FLG) picked competitive. FLG is in the best group of the "competitive" teams.

What complicates this tourney a bit is that you can also choose preferred slot if you want (morning or afternoon). Most tourney directors will guarantee morning slots to teams with long journeys (who are likely flying) like Eagle Stix, Steps California and Team One.

That said, if FLG requested Elite, they would at a minimum be in one of the top two brackets and have 3 very good games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think this person is looking at 2021. i do not believe any of the fall tourny's have posted their schedules. Please Fact not Fiction

Go to the fall draw website. FLG is playing Philly Blast, CLC C team, Jersey Shore Select

Legacy Blue playing Eagle Stix A, Steps A, Sound

Liberty playing Steps A, CLC, Sound

Legacy White playing CLC B, Snipers, ASK

How does a team ranked 8th nationally get placed in such a weak bracket?

When you sign up for the tournaments, you choose your bracket -- Very competitive -- Elite, Highly competitive, or Competitive.

The top brackets likely picked Elite, the next two picked Highly competitive and the rest (including FLG) picked competitive. FLG is in the best group of the "competitive" teams.

What complicates this tourney a bit is that you can also choose preferred slot if you want (morning or afternoon). Most tourney directors will guarantee morning slots to teams with long journeys (who are likely flying) like Eagle Stix, Steps California and Team One.

That said, if FLG requested Elite, they would at a minimum be in one of the top two brackets and have 3 very good games.

This seems strange. I've never known FLG to duck anyone. Especially top competition. lol

Fact - FLG parents had a meeting with the owners at the end of last season and demanded better tourneys/competition going forward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fact - FLG parents had a meeting with the owners at the end of last season and demanded better tourneys/competition going forward.

Does it matter if they play in better tournaments if they don't play in top brackets?

The only top tourney they played in last year was fall Live Love Lax, they played in a middle brackets against the likes of TLC and AIM. Seems like they have the same strategy this year.

Looks like they're off to a good start

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think this person is looking at 2021. i do not believe any of the fall tourny's have posted their schedules. Please Fact not Fiction

Go to the fall draw website. FLG is playing Philly Blast, CLC C team, Jersey Shore Select

Legacy Blue playing Eagle Stix A, Steps A, Sound

Liberty playing Steps A, CLC, Sound

Legacy White playing CLC B, Snipers, ASK

How does a team ranked 8th nationally get placed in such a weak bracket?

When you sign up for the tournaments, you choose your bracket -- Very competitive -- Elite, Highly competitive, or Competitive.

The top brackets likely picked Elite, the next two picked Highly competitive and the rest (including FLG) picked competitive. FLG is in the best group of the "competitive" teams.

What complicates this tourney a bit is that you can also choose preferred slot if you want (morning or afternoon). Most tourney directors will guarantee morning slots to teams with long journeys (who are likely flying) like Eagle Stix, Steps California and Team One.

That said, if FLG requested Elite, they would at a minimum be in one of the top two brackets and have 3 very good games.

This seems strange. I've never known FLG to duck anyone. Especially top competition. lol

If your strategy is to maximize your US club lax ranking, this is exactly what you do. Play mostly teams ranked 40-70 in the country.

If it much easier to beat the #50 team by 8 then to simply beat a top 10 team. The way rankings work, beating the #50 team in the country by 8 will usually get you more points than tying the #10 team.

These can’t be YJA, Jesters Black and TG parents saying all this about FLG. I bet if you ask them they would say that FLG belongs among the top teams in the country. 8. 15. 20. 25. Who cares where they are ranked. The team is great. The coaches are great. The kids are happy. The parents are happy. That’s 4 for 4. So why do you care who they play or where they play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These can’t be YJA, Jesters Black and TG parents saying all this about FLG. I bet if you ask them they would say that FLG belongs among the top teams in the country. 8. 15. 20. 25. Who cares where they are ranked. The team is great. The coaches are great. The kids are happy. The parents are happy. That’s 4 for 4. So why do you care who they play or where they play.

It's more than likely FLG parents. FLG ownership has been trying to convince parents that they are trying to get better competition for their 27 team. This schedule is just another example about how its all talk.

YJ and TG parents are more than happy to see these girls lag behind in development from not playing top competition.

“Lag behind in development” = a laughable statement

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These can’t be YJA, Jesters Black and TG parents saying all this about FLG. I bet if you ask them they would say that FLG belongs among the top teams in the country. 8. 15. 20. 25. Who cares where they are ranked. The team is great. The coaches are great. The kids are happy. The parents are happy. That’s 4 for 4. So why do you care who they play or where they play.

It's more than likely FLG parents. FLG ownership has been trying to convince parents that they are trying to get better competition for their 27 team. This schedule is just another example about how its all talk.

YJ and TG parents are more than happy to see these girls lag behind in development from not playing top competition.

The way girl's tournaments work, and I have this from a director who struggled through the process years ago, is that clubs who attend a tournament have first pick to attend the following year. Of course, the established clubs usually continue to go to the better tournaments, effectively locking out newer clubs.

If you're a new(er) club, you have to wait on the standby list until a spot opens. If it doesn't open, you don't get in. If it does open, you'll get in and be guaranteed an opportunity for the following year.

This process is well established, making it much harder for newer clubs to get into the best tournaments. Eventually, they do, but at that point, they're not new anymore. It is a process that takes time.

For us girls lacrosse parents; a new club equals crappy tournaments; an established club equals good tournaments. It's as simple as that.

To boil it down further, if you like your club and have a young daughter, you have time to wait it out, and eventually, they'll be able to get into good tournaments so you can stay put. If your daughter is near recruiting age, you're much better off at an established club that is already going to the top tournaments where your daughter is going to be seen. Even "crappy" tournaments can have good teams to play against. What they don't have, is college coaches lining the sideline during your daughter's recruiting years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These can’t be YJA, Jesters Black and TG parents saying all this about FLG. I bet if you ask them they would say that FLG belongs among the top teams in the country. 8. 15. 20. 25. Who cares where they are ranked. The team is great. The coaches are great. The kids are happy. The parents are happy. That’s 4 for 4. So why do you care who they play or where they play.

It's more than likely FLG parents. FLG ownership has been trying to convince parents that they are trying to get better competition for their 27 team. This schedule is just another example about how its all talk.

YJ and TG parents are more than happy to see these girls lag behind in development from not playing top competition.

Now that is a classless post! Why would you be more than happy to see young girls “lag behind”?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These can’t be YJA, Jesters Black and TG parents saying all this about FLG. I bet if you ask them they would say that FLG belongs among the top teams in the country. 8. 15. 20. 25. Who cares where they are ranked. The team is great. The coaches are great. The kids are happy. The parents are happy. That’s 4 for 4. So why do you care who they play or where they play.

It's more than likely FLG parents. FLG ownership has been trying to convince parents that they are trying to get better competition for their 27 team. This schedule is just another example about how its all talk.

YJ and TG parents are more than happy to see these girls lag behind in development from not playing top competition.

The way girl's tournaments work, and I have this from a director who struggled through the process years ago, is that clubs who attend a tournament have first pick to attend the following year. Of course, the established clubs usually continue to go to the better tournaments, effectively locking out newer clubs.

If you're a new(er) club, you have to wait on the standby list until a spot opens. If it doesn't open, you don't get in. If it does open, you'll get in and be guaranteed an opportunity for the following year.

This process is well established, making it much harder for newer clubs to get into the best tournaments. Eventually, they do, but at that point, they're not new anymore. It is a process that takes time.

For us girls lacrosse parents; a new club equals crappy tournaments; an established club equals good tournaments. It's as simple as that.

To boil it down further, if you like your club and have a young daughter, you have time to wait it out, and eventually, they'll be able to get into good tournaments so you can stay put. If your daughter is near recruiting age, you're much better off at an established club that is already going to the top tournaments where your daughter is going to be seen. Even "crappy" tournaments can have good teams to play against. What they don't have, is college coaches lining the sideline during your daughter's recruiting years.

Well said. I’d also add that if your club isn’t in a top tournament by 8th, they are likely never getting into it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These can’t be YJA, Jesters Black and TG parents saying all this about FLG. I bet if you ask them they would say that FLG belongs among the top teams in the country. 8. 15. 20. 25. Who cares where they are ranked. The team is great. The coaches are great. The kids are happy. The parents are happy. That’s 4 for 4. So why do you care who they play or where they play.

It's more than likely FLG parents. FLG ownership has been trying to convince parents that they are trying to get better competition for their 27 team. This schedule is just another example about how its all talk.

YJ and TG parents are more than happy to see these girls lag behind in development from not playing top competition.

Are girls sitting the bench at YJ and TG getting "development" against the top teams? I guess they get to watch them play which is something....

Newbie parents....

Generally, college coaches at most tournaments don't watch
more than 10-15 minutes of a game unless they’re there
specifically for a certain player or players. It's a fact that they
don't have enough time to view multiple games across a
restricted time schedule. While a coach is at a game there
is no guarantee that they see your daughter play if she's on the
bench, or if the ball is in the opposite field of play. A good or great
player will always get noticed. Most of those and all other players
will need to get noticed by attending college camps and clinics of
specific schools as well as showcases where the team rosters are
limited to a low number of players wherein it guarantees all players play significant minutes of field time to be seen and evaluated.

Outliers, that Aces team is good and they lost 14-3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Outliers, that Aces team is good and they lost 14-3.

what is this in reference to?

Just saw YJ website saying they are looking for 5 field players for 27s and 28s. Does this mean they will have 4 teams this year for middle school age groups?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Outliers, that Aces team is good and they lost 14-3.

what is this in reference to?

I think LI Liberty, who lost to Aces 3-14 over summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Outliers, that Aces team is good and they lost 14-3.

what is this in reference to?

I think LI Liberty, who lost to Aces 3-14 over summer.

random...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think this person is looking at 2021. i do not believe any of the fall tourny's have posted their schedules. Please Fact not Fiction

Go to the fall draw website. FLG is playing Philly Blast, CLC C team, Jersey Shore Select

Legacy Blue playing Eagle Stix A, Steps A, Sound

Liberty playing Steps A, CLC, Sound

Legacy White playing CLC B, Snipers, ASK

How does a team ranked 8th nationally get placed in such a weak bracket?

Schedule on TSIC has FLG in top bracket and not playing any of those teams mentioned above.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think this person is looking at 2021. i do not believe any of the fall tourny's have posted their schedules. Please Fact not Fiction

Go to the fall draw website. FLG is playing Philly Blast, CLC C team, Jersey Shore Select

Legacy Blue playing Eagle Stix A, Steps A, Sound

Liberty playing Steps A, CLC, Sound

Legacy White playing CLC B, Snipers, ASK

How does a team ranked 8th nationally get placed in such a weak bracket?

Schedule on TSIC has FLG in top bracket and not playing any of those teams mentioned above.

That’s a change then. Previous poster was correct at the time. Guess the Winks read forums

If your strategy is to maximize your US club lax ranking, this is exactly what you do. Play mostly teams ranked 40-70 in the country.

If it much easier to beat the #50 team by 8 then to simply beat a top 10 team. The way rankings work, beating the #50 team in the country by 8 will usually get you more points than tying the #10 team.[/quote]

Starting to believe this is really the case! When you look at teams like FLG and Top Guns, it seems the strategy is to play in lower brackets and against lower teams for most of the season until the final few summer tournaments of the year. But how can you blame them when all of us are on here talking about rankings.

Flg is playing in a bracket with the number 4 team in the country and purposely got moved there. I don't think it's the clubs fault more of the tournaments because flg is a small club. Last year if I'm correct played aces, pride, yj, and heros. I don't have a problem with their team, but many parents here seem to be so disturbed by them.

[quote=Anonymous]Flg is playing in a bracket with the number 4 team in the country and purposely got moved there. I don't think it's the clubs fault more of the tournaments because flg is a small club. Last year if I'm correct played aces, pride, yj, and heros. I don't have a problem with their team, but many parents here seem to be so disturbed by them.
[/quote

Few, not many. They just post often.

Anyone have any idea about the APEX Girls Futures next month?
Quality
Cost
College Coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just saw YJ website saying they are looking for 5 field players for 27s and 28s. Does this mean they will have 4 teams this year for middle school age groups?

Looking at the YJ website, they need these players for their third team. Looks like they lost quite few girls' at this age.

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any idea about the APEX Girls Futures next month?
Quality
Cost
College Coaches

money grab - no college coaches are looking at 27's yet and definitely won't be there

Have done a couple of extra things. Some voluntary some invite. All money grabs so far. 10th grade is a different story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

where did this add come from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

where did this add come from?

Came from FLG. Her older sister is the star at Stony Brook.

I am more curious what happened to Gaghan. Looks like their 4 or 5 of their best players are all gone. I know one got promoted to Graz. Any idea where the rest went?

No FLG pick ups this year on YJ A

Came from FLG. Her older sister is the star at Stony Brook.

Fake news. YJ did not add an FLG kid. They all returned to FLG.

A lot of rubbish posted here. Who is the “star player” on Stony Brook? Gaghan lost none of their top players other than the one girl who was moved to A.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

where did this add come from?

Came from FLG. Her older sister is the star at Stony Brook.

I am more curious what happened to Gaghan. Looks like their 4 or 5 of their best players are all gone. I know one got promoted to Graz. Any idea where the rest went?

You have no idea what you are talking about, only 1 Gaghan player moved up to Graz/Stadler. Also I think one moved down. Just look at the rosters from this year and compared to LY. Do a little research before you make incorrect statements. Also I think Graz lost a player that has been on team from the beginning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

where did this add come from?

Came from FLG. Her older sister is the star at Stony Brook.

I am more curious what happened to Gaghan. Looks like their 4 or 5 of their best players are all gone. I know one got promoted to Graz. Any idea where the rest went?

Is Graz still the A team coach? Seems they are going by Stadler now.

As for Gaghan, 2 from YJ A, 1 from Top Guns, a few others I am unsure of where they came from.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

where did this add come from?

Came from FLG. Her older sister is the star at Stony Brook.

I am more curious what happened to Gaghan. Looks like their 4 or 5 of their best players are all gone. I know one got promoted to Graz. Any idea where the rest went?

You have no idea what you are talking about, only 1 Gaghan player moved up to Graz/Stadler. Also I think one moved down. Just look at the rosters from this year and compared to LY. Do a little research before you make incorrect statements. Also I think Graz lost a player that has been on team from the beginning.

They made three cuts. Probably should have made at least three more. Basically the same team -- except it will go from 8 girls not playings to 5 girls not playing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

where did this add come from?

Came from FLG. Her older sister is the star at Stony Brook.

I am more curious what happened to Gaghan. Looks like their 4 or 5 of their best players are all gone. I know one got promoted to Graz. Any idea where the rest went?

You have no idea what you are talking about, only 1 Gaghan player moved up to Graz/Stadler. Also I think one moved down. Just look at the rosters from this year and compared to LY. Do a little research before you make incorrect statements. Also I think Graz lost a player that has been on team from the beginning.

They made three cuts. Probably should have made at least three more. Basically the same team -- except it will go from 8 girls not playings to 5 girls not playing

Why do you care, Is your daughter on the team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

where did this add come from?

Came from FLG. Her older sister is the star at Stony Brook.

I am more curious what happened to Gaghan. Looks like their 4 or 5 of their best players are all gone. I know one got promoted to Graz. Any idea where the rest went?

You have no idea what you are talking about, only 1 Gaghan player moved up to Graz/Stadler. Also I think one moved down. Just look at the rosters from this year and compared to LY. Do a little research before you make incorrect statements. Also I think Graz lost a player that has been on team from the beginning.

They made three cuts. Probably should have made at least three more. Basically the same team -- except it will go from 8 girls not playings to 5 girls not playing

Don't worry they willl go next year when they start bringing in out of state players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

where did this add come from?

Came from FLG. Her older sister is the star at Stony Brook.

I am more curious what happened to Gaghan. Looks like their 4 or 5 of their best players are all gone. I know one got promoted to Graz. Any idea where the rest went?

You have no idea what you are talking about, only 1 Gaghan player moved up to Graz/Stadler. Also I think one moved down. Just look at the rosters from this year and compared to LY. Do a little research before you make incorrect statements. Also I think Graz lost a player that has been on team from the beginning.

They made three cuts. Probably should have made at least three more. Basically the same team -- except it will go from 8 girls not playings to 5 girls not playing

Don't worry they willl go next year when they start bringing in out of state players

Would love to hear who will go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Considering sending my daughter to Jesters. What’s the scoop on the coaches? Seems like the team had major improvement this year.

Jesters program growing but only a handful of non parent coaches who are any good. If you can get one of the girls who don’t have a kid on the team. They should do what YJ does and have their coaches who are stronger without kids on the team take over once they hit 9th grade. Gives the better coaches a year with them to get to know them and then during their Highschool recruiting years they have a group of coaches who are used to putting kids through the recruiting process. Nothing worse than dad or mom coaches who have no college coach connections or understanding of it giving bad advice or not helping at all

Another pointless post. That's what directors are for...very few if any club coaches are the connection. The directors develop relationships with colleges and assist with recruiting.

The program/directors have the relationships and help navigate recruiting years, most know this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Considering sending my daughter to Jesters. What’s the scoop on the coaches? Seems like the team had major improvement this year.

Jesters program growing but only a handful of non parent coaches who are any good. If you can get one of the girls who don’t have a kid on the team. They should do what YJ does and have their coaches who are stronger without kids on the team take over once they hit 9th grade. Gives the better coaches a year with them to get to know them and then during their Highschool recruiting years they have a group of coaches who are used to putting kids through the recruiting process. Nothing worse than dad or mom coaches who have no college coach connections or understanding of it giving bad advice or not helping at all

Such a dense post. The Jesters put their first team who are now seniors through the process and look how many D-1 commits from that 2023 team. "So the nothing worse than Dad or mom coaches" quote was theory? Certainly not reality. In any good organization whether boys or girls, its the directors that are assisting through the recruiting process. Worry more if your daughter is good enough and most certainly fast enough and not the mom or dad coaches holding back their "D-1" ability. And by the way, most of the girls that don't have a kid on the team are still playing and miss many practices anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

where did this add come from?

Came from FLG. Her older sister is the star at Stony Brook.

I am more curious what happened to Gaghan. Looks like their 4 or 5 of their best players are all gone. I know one got promoted to Graz. Any idea where the rest went?

You have no idea what you are talking about, only 1 Gaghan player moved up to Graz/Stadler. Also I think one moved down. Just look at the rosters from this year and compared to LY. Do a little research before you make incorrect statements. Also I think Graz lost a player that has been on team from the beginning.

They made three cuts. Probably should have made at least three more. Basically the same team -- except it will go from 8 girls not playings to 5 girls not playing

Don't worry they willl go next year when they start bringing in out of state players

Would love to hear who will go.

take your pick out of any of the girls who barely played last summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

where did this add come from?

Came from FLG. Her older sister is the star at Stony Brook.

I am more curious what happened to Gaghan. Looks like their 4 or 5 of their best players are all gone. I know one got promoted to Graz. Any idea where the rest went?

You have no idea what you are talking about, only 1 Gaghan player moved up to Graz/Stadler. Also I think one moved down. Just look at the rosters from this year and compared to LY. Do a little research before you make incorrect statements. Also I think Graz lost a player that has been on team from the beginning.

They made three cuts. Probably should have made at least three more. Basically the same team -- except it will go from 8 girls not playings to 5 girls not playing

Don't worry they willl go next year when they start bringing in out of state players

Would love to hear who will go.

take your pick out of any of the girls who barely played last summer.

So you must be a parent on the team to have all this information.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Yellow Jackets A trimmed down to 22 players.

Moved one player up from B.

And the FLG girl is a quality add and will start at middie from day one.

Still didn't really address their challenges at D and overall lack of speed. Hopefully they will move one of their backup middies to D to help shore it up.

where did this add come from?

Came from FLG. Her older sister is the star at Stony Brook.

I am more curious what happened to Gaghan. Looks like their 4 or 5 of their best players are all gone. I know one got promoted to Graz. Any idea where the rest went?

You have no idea what you are talking about, only 1 Gaghan player moved up to Graz/Stadler. Also I think one moved down. Just look at the rosters from this year and compared to LY. Do a little research before you make incorrect statements. Also I think Graz lost a player that has been on team from the beginning.

They made three cuts. Probably should have made at least three more. Basically the same team -- except it will go from 8 girls not playings to 5 girls not playing

Don't worry they willl go next year when they start bringing in out of state players

Would love to hear who will go.

take your pick out of any of the girls who barely played last summer.

So you must be a parent on the team to have all this information.

Or anyone who watched them play more than one game

YJ happy. Sounds like other people are not.

Same nonsense. New year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ happy. Sounds like other people are not.

Same nonsense. New year

I don't understand why size of YJA rosters matter, regardless of year. Very rare for more than 16 girls to play in meaningful games. Who cares if they carry 20, 22 or 25?

Exactly. If the players and parents are “all in” then why do so many care that certain number of girls on any team play or don’t play?

You have parents with old grudges or current axes to grind. Trying to put down a program that is highly successful every year looks petty and foolish. Maybe spend more time trying to help your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ happy. Sounds like other people are not.

Same nonsense. New year

I don't understand why size of YJA rosters matter, regardless of year. Very rare for more than 16 girls to play in meaningful games. Who cares if they carry 20, 22 or 25?

If you are player 15-25 you should care a lot. You are subsidizing the rest of the team and coaches. Wake up! Hi if my daughter wasn’t playing at least a third of the time, we would be home. Wake up and open your eyes!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ happy. Sounds like other people are not.

Same nonsense. New year

I don't understand why size of YJA rosters matter, regardless of year. Very rare for more than 16 girls to play in meaningful games. Who cares if they carry 20, 22 or 25?

If you are player 15-25 you should care a lot. You are subsidizing the rest of the team and coaches. Wake up! Hi if my daughter wasn’t playing at least a third of the time, we would be home. Wake up and open your eyes!

Most of the YJ girls who don't play have been on the team for multiple years. Its not like they are shocked, they knew what they signed up for.

to add to this comment, normally tournaments want multiple teams from a club not just one team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

to add to this comment, normally tournaments want multiple teams from a club not just one team

to add to what comment?

Normally tournies want multiple teams

YJ is doing good. Development is why girls stay. Also the amount of development. Practices, scrimmages, inter squad, the way it should be. There is a system and it produces.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ is doing good. Development is why girls stay. Also the amount of development. Practices, scrimmages, inter squad, the way it should be. There is a system and it produces.

thank you for your opinion YJ dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ is doing good. Development is why girls stay. Also the amount of development. Practices, scrimmages, inter squad, the way it should be. There is a system and it produces.

There's no development for the girls who aren't playing. There's opportunities to pay more for training with some good coaches who do good jobs one on one(they love taking your money). As far as staying you guys stay because it's YJ(#3 in the nation blah blah blah). Your afraid to go somewhere else, girls are comfortable sitting on the bench and keeping quiet, you have to consistently give them the talk on the jersey turnpike!
What they should really do is cut the roster size in half, no more than 18 but she wont!

Someone woke up angry

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ is doing good. Development is why girls stay. Also the amount of development. Practices, scrimmages, inter squad, the way it should be. There is a system and it produces.

YJ practices dramatically less than other top clubs (Grizzlies, M&D, Heros, Steps). This, combined with not having tryouts after 7th grade, is why Grizzlies almost always has the best recruiting classes in the country.

They one thing YJ has going for it, is that it does practice more the TG (and brings in fewer out of state players).

Grizzlies? I would put them well behind M&D and YJ in terms of recruiting. What's going on the Grizzles at 2027 level? 56th in nation last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Grizzlies? I would put them well behind M&D and YJ in terms of recruiting. What's going on the Grizzles at 2027 level? 56th in nation last year?

Maybe over the past 6 year. However, if you look at the 23 and 24 classes. Grizzlies is clearly top -- M&D is the only one who could even argue for the top spot

here is a list of 24 commits to date. 6 Ivies, 7 perennial top 10 teams. Name another club that is even close.

Dartmouth
UConn
Princeton
Dartmouth
Michigan
Yale
Cornell
Maryland
Brown
Syracuse
Duke
Notre Dame
UNC
Boston College
Duke
Penn
Michigan

Regarding their 27 team. It will be a top 10 team in 2-3 years when it matters. Part of the reason they struggle a bit at lower levels is that they focus on bringing in athletes, not already polished lax players and then develop them.

Grizzlies?????? Did they legalize weed in Ct.

You’re 100% correct. YJ is awful. Doing it all wrong. Don’t practice enough. Horrific amount of college commits again this year. Failed experiment.

Heros, M&D, Steps...see the reclassified talk. These clubs have players a year or two older. They should be at the top.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Grizzlies?????? Did they legalize weed in Ct.

You’re 100% correct. YJ is awful. Doing it all wrong. Don’t practice enough. Horrific amount of college commits again this year. Failed experiment.

The Grizzly’s definitely seem to be doing all the right things in player development! It Will be the top program, if not already. YJs just doing same ol’ thing and not improving. They will slowly move down the ranks as other clubs do the right things at the developmental ages. YJs depend way too much on parents doing the training and coaching.

It doesn’t hurt how deep the Grizzly parents pockets are as well. You know some of those commits are not only connected, but also probably had no issues with paying full tuition to the schools. So, they were able to get committed very quickly. Not to take anything from the girls, they are all very good. It just makes for a much easier and faster recruiting process when $s/scholarships are not an issue.

Grizzles will top a Top-10 team in 2-3 years? How, where will they pull these players?

M&D
Hero's Green
Yellow Jackets
Capital
Aces
Eaglestix

Take those teams to the bank for remaining in top-10. You prob have another MD team that can pull from other MD teams to form another top-10. My guess is Skywalkers or MD United being that one.

Grizzles will need to take best players on Gold Coast, Prime Time and develop and maybe it can work out, but prob not. Long island going to get another team in that conversation, FLG perhaps if they can maintain talent.

Grizzlies at other age groups are good. 27’s are awful

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Grizzles will top a Top-10 team in 2-3 years? How, where will they pull these players?

M&D
Hero's Green
Yellow Jackets
Capital
Aces
Eaglestix

Take those teams to the bank for remaining in top-10. You prob have another MD team that can pull from other MD teams to form another top-10. My guess is Skywalkers or MD United being that one.

Grizzles will need to take best players on Gold Coast, Prime Time and develop and maybe it can work out, but prob not. Long island going to get another team in that conversation, FLG perhaps if they can maintain talent.

Remember. Grizzlies don't have tryouts after 7th grade. So their team this upcoming fall is pretty much their team throughout recruiting unless someone gets promoted from the B team.

I watched them play one game last summer. Here is a quick take on them. Their stick skills are nowhere near the top 3 clubs or so and they have a few players who are very undersized. They also had pretty even playing time which likely contributed to some loses. Its pretty clear the coaches were taking a long-term view when making the team.

All that being said, they were more athletic than any 27 team on the Island - FLG is the only club that's even close.

If they can develop these athletes, they will be a top 15 club sooner rather than later. Will they eventually pass YJA, probably not. But will they likely hold their own in the top A brackets within a couple year? very likely.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Grizzles will top a Top-10 team in 2-3 years? How, where will they pull these players?

M&D
Hero's Green
Yellow Jackets
Capital
Aces
Eaglestix

Take those teams to the bank for remaining in top-10. You prob have another MD team that can pull from other MD teams to form another top-10. My guess is Skywalkers or MD United being that one.

Grizzles will need to take best players on Gold Coast, Prime Time and develop and maybe it can work out, but prob not. Long island going to get another team in that conversation, FLG perhaps if they can maintain talent.

Remember. Grizzlies don't have tryouts after 7th grade. So their team this upcoming fall is pretty much their team throughout recruiting unless someone gets promoted from the B team.

I watched them play one game last summer. Here is a quick take on them. Their stick skills are nowhere near the top 3 clubs or so and they have a few players who are very undersized. They also had pretty even playing time which likely contributed to some loses. Its pretty clear the coaches were taking a long-term view when making the team.

All that being said, they were more athletic than any 27 team on the Island - FLG is the only club that's even close.

If they can develop these athletes, they will be a top 15 club sooner rather than later. Will they eventually pass YJA, probably not. But will they likely hold their own in the top A brackets within a couple year? very likely.

Of course they will pass or be on par most teams including YJA. This is one of the wealthiest areas in the country where lacrosse is used to get into the top colleges. These girls will be trained and coached by the best and their commits will be top tier. Rich preppy stereotypical lax players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Grizzles will top a Top-10 team in 2-3 years? How, where will they pull these players?

M&D
Hero's Green
Yellow Jackets
Capital
Aces
Eaglestix

Take those teams to the bank for remaining in top-10. You prob have another MD team that can pull from other MD teams to form another top-10. My guess is Skywalkers or MD United being that one.

Grizzles will need to take best players on Gold Coast, Prime Time and develop and maybe it can work out, but prob not. Long island going to get another team in that conversation, FLG perhaps if they can maintain talent.

Remember. Grizzlies don't have tryouts after 7th grade. So their team this upcoming fall is pretty much their team throughout recruiting unless someone gets promoted from the B team.

I watched them play one game last summer. Here is a quick take on them. Their stick skills are nowhere near the top 3 clubs or so and they have a few players who are very undersized. They also had pretty even playing time which likely contributed to some loses. Its pretty clear the coaches were taking a long-term view when making the team.

All that being said, they were more athletic than any 27 team on the Island - FLG is the only club that's even close.

If they can develop these athletes, they will be a top 15 club sooner rather than later. Will they eventually pass YJA, probably not. But will they likely hold their own in the top A brackets within a couple year? very likely.

Of course they will pass or be on par most teams including YJA. This is one of the wealthiest areas in the country where lacrosse is used to get into the top colleges. These girls will be trained and coached by the best and their commits will be top tier. Rich preppy stereotypical lax players

This. Don't overlook the impact of no tryouts after 7th grade. Allows coaches to focus on development and potential instead of who is the best player in 8th grade. I can name many top Long Island girls now who likely won't be top players in 3 years since they have either 1) already physically peaked or 2) just don't have the athleticism that high end D-1 girls lax requires.

Who is Capital?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is Capital?

Top club in DC area, starts in 9th — takes best players from Pride, Stars, BLC and a few others.

Why is FLG no longer playing Live Love Lax this fall? They were in and seemed to have dropped out

Fake news. Teams don't drop from tournies

Not fake news……..

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

WHO CARES.......Let's get back to Grizzlies talk. Another relevant team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is FLG no longer playing Live Love Lax this fall? They were in and seemed to have dropped out

downside of one goalie and two subs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Grizzlies at other age groups are good. 27’s are awful

starting next year they go to one team with 35 girls and rotate who attends per tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Grizzlies at other age groups are good. 27’s are awful

starting next year they go to one team with 35 girls and rotate who attends per tournament

Not true. They will have two teams -- Navy and Yellow at the 25-27 age groups. Only age group with one team is 24s and that is because many of the committed girls no longer want to focus on club.

Where can I see results for Stick for Suzanne?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where can I see results for Stick for Suzanne?

Wasn't it a 7v7? Or did they go full-field this year?

Some sick people sitting home desperately trying to find results for a laid back charity tournament they weren’t at!!

12 on 12 this year. But in reality. It’s fall ball. Who cares. The kids played and had fun

Great day, great tourney. YJ beat Jesters but close game. Liberty black backed out so teams only had 2 games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some sick people sitting home desperately trying to find results for a laid back charity tournament they weren’t at!!

Why is that sick? I asked because I would like to follow a certain team that we are considering moving my daughter to. Seems like I struck a nerve.

Stinks when a team backs out. Glad it was a success.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Agreed. If my daughter was on that team and we backed out of one of the biggest fall tourneys, I would be beyond pissed. Curious if they will back out of Fall Draw the weekend before as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day, great tourney. YJ beat Jesters but close game. Liberty black backed out so teams only had 2 games.

“Liberty Black backed out” OR had previous commitments by their players and were NEVER signed up. So played a game that evening.

But like most posts on this site, just make up whatever fits your agenda and go with it. Once again, this site is GREAT for entertainment, but if you are a parent or player looking for guidance on what is good for your future, find people you respect who have been through the process and talk with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Grizzlies at other age groups are good. 27’s are awful

starting next year they go to one team with 35 girls and rotate who attends per tournament

Not true. They will have two teams -- Navy and Yellow at the 25-27 age groups. Only age group with one team is 24s and that is because many of the committed girls no longer want to focus on club.

From their website genius….”NOTE: 2027's will be going to 1 rotating rosters of 30 - 32 players for the 2024 Summer Season**

Didn’t half of Liberty Black’s team leave?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day, great tourney. YJ beat Jesters but close game. Liberty black backed out so teams only had 2 games.

“Liberty Black backed out” OR had previous commitments by their players and were NEVER signed up. So played a game that evening.

But like most posts on this site, just make up whatever fits your agenda and go with it. Once again, this site is GREAT for entertainment, but if you are a parent or player looking for guidance on what is good for your future, find people you respect who have been through the process and talk with them.

Honestly, I think everyone has a bias (positive or negative). Looking at game results and catching a game or even a practice if you can is the best way to get a feel for a team. People on here get weird about answering simple questions. If the results are listed online what’s the harm
In answering where someone can see it? There have been a ton of questions about Jesters and if they were able to field 4 full teams. Nobody would answer. If a club is growing getting that info out there should be important. If I went by the website for Jestwrs they only have 3 2027 teams. People need to be less sensitive.

Ummm…nope. A few cuts were made and a few players were picked up. Solid, very athletic team. Thx ex-Liberty parent for stirring the pot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Agreed. If my daughter was on that team and we backed out of one of the biggest fall tourneys, I would be beyond pissed. Curious if they will back out of Fall Draw the weekend before as well.

FLG has at least 3-4 girls that play varsity basketball and another 3-4 that will be playing JV basketball. First practice for JV and Varsity is November 19 and the girls need a specified number of practices to play in first game. They are in a Fall league and playing 2 other tournaments which should be enough for 12 and 13 year old girls that are not of recruiting age and play other sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Agreed. If my daughter was on that team and we backed out of one of the biggest fall tourneys, I would be beyond pissed. Curious if they will back out of Fall Draw the weekend before as well.

FLG has at least 3-4 girls that play varsity basketball and another 3-4 that will be playing JV basketball. First practice for JV and Varsity is November 19 and the girls need a specified number of practices to play in first game. They are in a Fall league and playing 2 other tournaments which should be enough for 12 and 13 year old girls that are not of recruiting age and play other sports.

Don’t they have to try out first?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Agreed. If my daughter was on that team and we backed out of one of the biggest fall tourneys, I would be beyond pissed. Curious if they will back out of Fall Draw the weekend before as well.

FLG has at least 3-4 girls that play varsity basketball and another 3-4 that will be playing JV basketball. First practice for JV and Varsity is November 19 and the girls need a specified number of practices to play in first game. They are in a Fall league and playing 2 other tournaments which should be enough for 12 and 13 year old girls that are not of recruiting age and play other sports.

As long as that is what was committed to players and parents when they paid their $$. What it sounds like though is that FLG leadership originally committed to more high quality events to ameliorate parents. If that is true, parents have a legit concern and should be demanding that the club brings in some quality guest players.

Hopefully, FLG is almost telling any of these players who are skipping fall tourneys that once recruiting starts in high school, that fall tourneys are no longer optional.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Agreed. If my daughter was on that team and we backed out of one of the biggest fall tourneys, I would be beyond pissed. Curious if they will back out of Fall Draw the weekend before as well.

FLG has at least 3-4 girls that play varsity basketball and another 3-4 that will be playing JV basketball. First practice for JV and Varsity is November 19 and the girls need a specified number of practices to play in first game. They are in a Fall league and playing 2 other tournaments which should be enough for 12 and 13 year old girls that are not of recruiting age and play other sports.

We talking about practice not a game not a game not a game we talking about practice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Agreed. If my daughter was on that team and we backed out of one of the biggest fall tourneys, I would be beyond pissed. Curious if they will back out of Fall Draw the weekend before as well.

FLG has at least 3-4 girls that play varsity basketball and another 3-4 that will be playing JV basketball. First practice for JV and Varsity is November 19 and the girls need a specified number of practices to play in first game. They are in a Fall league and playing 2 other tournaments which should be enough for 12 and 13 year old girls that are not of recruiting age and play other sports.

Don’t they have to try out first?

Apparently not!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Agreed. If my daughter was on that team and we backed out of one of the biggest fall tourneys, I would be beyond pissed. Curious if they will back out of Fall Draw the weekend before as well.

FLG has at least 3-4 girls that play varsity basketball and another 3-4 that will be playing JV basketball. First practice for JV and Varsity is November 19 and the girls need a specified number of practices to play in first game. They are in a Fall league and playing 2 other tournaments which should be enough for 12 and 13 year old girls that are not of recruiting age and play other sports.

Don’t they have to try out first?

Apparently not!!!

To be fair, with all the summer league basketball games (with full coaching). Tryouts are pretty irrevelevant. Coaches know who they want on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Agreed. If my daughter was on that team and we backed out of one of the biggest fall tourneys, I would be beyond pissed. Curious if they will back out of Fall Draw the weekend before as well.

FLG has at least 3-4 girls that play varsity basketball and another 3-4 that will be playing JV basketball. First practice for JV and Varsity is November 19 and the girls need a specified number of practices to play in first game. They are in a Fall league and playing 2 other tournaments which should be enough for 12 and 13 year old girls that are not of recruiting age and play other sports.

Don’t they have to try out first?

Apparently not!!!

To be fair, with all the summer league basketball games (with full coaching). Tryouts are pretty irrevelevant. Coaches know who they want on the team.

They have some tall athletic girls on that team, can see a few playing high school hoops but half the roster?

Who cares about what other kids or flg is doing, worry about your own kids and team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Agreed. If my daughter was on that team and we backed out of one of the biggest fall tourneys, I would be beyond pissed. Curious if they will back out of Fall Draw the weekend before as well.

FLG has at least 3-4 girls that play varsity basketball and another 3-4 that will be playing JV basketball. First practice for JV and Varsity is November 19 and the girls need a specified number of practices to play in first game. They are in a Fall league and playing 2 other tournaments which should be enough for 12 and 13 year old girls that are not of recruiting age and play other sports.

Don’t they have to try out first?

Apparently not!!!

To be fair, with all the summer league basketball games (with full coaching). Tryouts are pretty irrevelevant. Coaches know who they want on the team.

They have some tall athletic girls on that team, can see a few playing high school hoops but half the roster?

It only takes 3 or so kids who can't play a tourney when the roster is a short as that one is and then you can't field a team....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day, great tourney. YJ beat Jesters but close game. Liberty black backed out so teams only had 2 games.

Which Jesters team? I can’t find info if they were able to
field the 4 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn’t half of Liberty Black’s team leave?

Or not a single player left the team from their own decision! Know a few new players who joined this year as well.

Liberty Black seems to be another team out there that girls love playing for. An athletic group that seem to be getting better and better.

Similar with FLG it seems where the team just enjoys playing with each other and avoids a lot of the drama.

Jesters black

What’s going on with Empire????? I have a void in my soul.

Empire is so last year. You gotta Feel the Teal!!!!!

quick poll for all folks with kids at LI clubs

How often during the fall does your club actually practice? And what % of the team actually attends?

Trying to see if our club is the normal or not

Originally Posted by Anonymous

quick poll for all folks with kids at LI clubs

How often during the fall does your club actually practice? And what % of the team actually attends?

Trying to see if our club is the normal or not

Twice a week and only a few no shows per practice

Once and few to none no shows. Sowing practices will go to twice a week.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

quick poll for all folks with kids at LI clubs

How often during the fall does your club actually practice? And what % of the team actually attends?

Trying to see if our club is the normal or not

Find a team that matches your daughter's desire. If your daughter only wants to play lacrosse, find a team that practices two to three times in the fall and all of the girls are committed to that as well.

If your daughter enjoys playing multiple sports and her practice time in the Fall of 8th grade for lacrosse is only one day a week and her teammates have similar schedules, there is nothing wrong with that. In fact some may argue for injury prevention and lack of burn out, that playing other sports is more beneficial.

So some Clubs practice as much as three days in the Fall and some only one, but most competitive programs ramp up in the Spring and expect full participation multiple days a week. But then also remember that most girls in the Spring have a stick in their hand SEVEN days a week with school ball as well.

Don’t always have to buy into more is better. You know your daughter better than anyone. Don’t worry what others are doing.

Boring….BE MORE FUNNY!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Agreed. If my daughter was on that team and we backed out of one of the biggest fall tourneys, I would be beyond pissed. Curious if they will back out of Fall Draw the weekend before as well.

FLG has at least 3-4 girls that play varsity basketball and another 3-4 that will be playing JV basketball. First practice for JV and Varsity is November 19 and the girls need a specified number of practices to play in first game. They are in a Fall league and playing 2 other tournaments which should be enough for 12 and 13 year old girls that are not of recruiting age and play other sports.

Don’t they have to try out first?

Apparently not!!!

To be fair, with all the summer league basketball games (with full coaching). Tryouts are pretty irrevelevant. Coaches know who they want on the team.

They have some tall athletic girls on that team, can see a few playing high school hoops but half the roster?

High school Winter season starts Nov 14 and it’s a 6 day a week commitment. Will be difficult for middle schoolers playing up to attend a Saturday tourney after that date.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Probably a roster issue. The week of LLL is the week that jv/v basketball starts. Assuming a few players from their already small roster are playing up. I know their head coach coaches varsity. Team probably did not want to go with little players/no subs. This has to be an issue for many teams.

Not really all teams go with small rosters, Really feel bad for the kids that are all in on that team, they should move on.

Agreed. If my daughter was on that team and we backed out of one of the biggest fall tourneys, I would be beyond pissed. Curious if they will back out of Fall Draw the weekend before as well.

FLG has at least 3-4 girls that play varsity basketball and another 3-4 that will be playing JV basketball. First practice for JV and Varsity is November 19 and the girls need a specified number of practices to play in first game. They are in a Fall league and playing 2 other tournaments which should be enough for 12 and 13 year old girls that are not of recruiting age and play other sports.

Don’t they have to try out first?

Apparently not!!!

To be fair, with all the summer league basketball games (with full coaching). Tryouts are pretty irrevelevant. Coaches know who they want on the team.

They have some tall athletic girls on that team, can see a few playing high school hoops but half the roster?

High school Winter season starts Nov 14 and it’s a 6 day a week commitment. Will be difficult for middle schoolers playing up to attend a Saturday tourney after that date.

How many lax tournaments are after Nov 14th?

lots of travel kids play varsity sports. It all works out somehow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

quick poll for all folks with kids at LI clubs

How often during the fall does your club actually practice? And what % of the team actually attends?

Trying to see if our club is the normal or not

Find a team that matches your daughter's desire. If your daughter only wants to play lacrosse, find a team that practices two to three times in the fall and all of the girls are committed to that as well.

If your daughter enjoys playing multiple sports and her practice time in the Fall of 8th grade for lacrosse is only one day a week and her teammates have similar schedules, there is nothing wrong with that. In fact some may argue for injury prevention and lack of burn out, that playing other sports is more beneficial.

So some Clubs practice as much as three days in the Fall and some only one, but most competitive programs ramp up in the Spring and expect full participation multiple days a week. But then also remember that most girls in the Spring have a stick in their hand SEVEN days a week with school ball as well.

Don’t always have to buy into more is better. You know your daughter better than anyone. Don’t worry what others are doing.

As someone who has been through the process, I will sat this.

Once you get past 7th or 8th grade, team practices have less and less impact. Girls get much better from small group lessons and clinics.

I guarantee you that girls who are on clubs like YJ who barely practice once a week will usually be getting more reps a week than many girls on clubs who practice 2-3x a week due to private training for both stick work and speed/strength.

Queen of the Island fall 2022 for 2027 goes to non LI teams…how embarrassing!! Top LI teams drop out/don’t atrend and then stack lower teams and still can’t get it done. At least Legacy represented in their division . Sad day for LI 2027 girls lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Queen of the Island fall 2022 for 2027 goes to non LI teams…how embarrassing!! Top LI teams drop out/don’t atrend and then stack lower teams and still can’t get it done. At least Legacy represented in their division . Sad day for LI 2027 girls lacrosse.

is it really though? the Top LI teams at this age will be just fine and have all their much more meaningful (if any in the fall are) tournaments over the next few weekends

Queen is a local fun tourney. ….although…overall comp was better this year. Real ones start soon…but…still fall ball people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Queen is a local fun tourney. ….although…overall comp was better this year. Real ones start soon…but…still fall ball people.

I know most of you commenting this is your oldest daughter. I can’t help but laugh. You’ll see very soon the wins/losses mean nothing. Most of your competition will be players on your own team for spots at the best showcases. The director/coach can only promote so many players. Maybe you’re lucky and at a top high school program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Queen of the Island fall 2022 for 2027 goes to non LI teams…how embarrassing!! Top LI teams drop out/don’t atrend and then stack lower teams and still can’t get it done. At least Legacy represented in their division . Sad day for LI 2027 girls lacrosse.

is it really though? the Top LI teams at this age will be just fine and have all their much more meaningful (if any in the fall are) tournaments over the next few weekends

If anything, this is a positive for the tourney-- competition level was as high as its ever been. Maybe if this keeps up, top LI teams would start playing in it.

But does anyone here seriously think that YJA or FLG wouldn't have easily gone undefeated if they entered?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Queen of the Island fall 2022 for 2027 goes to non LI teams…how embarrassing!! Top LI teams drop out/don’t atrend and then stack lower teams and still can’t get it done. At least Legacy represented in their division . Sad day for LI 2027 girls lacrosse.

What do you mean “stack lower teams”?

is it really though? the Top LI teams at this age will be just fine and have all their much more meaningful (if any in the fall are) tournaments over the next few weekends

How does Jesters compare to Legacy, Top Guns, Empire, etc at the 2027 level?

Looking at their scores from 21-22, lots of big improvement from fall to summer.

TG, Jesters A teams are pretty equal empire is a bit behind talent wise but people do seem to like how it that organization is run..
Once you get to the secondary teams, (Jesters AA team no idea what that is about) TG Purple teams are better than most of the other clubs second teams... aside from Yellow Jackets for the 27 level

Jesters 27 black team is solid. Way better than empire. Legacy is ok. Both jesters and legacy have improved over last few years. Top gun is a very good program every year. 27 team will be better this year. They were good last year.

Jesters is not as good as TG, but at the same level or a bit better than Liberty. Also probably pretty close to YJB.

Legacy doesn't have the talent, but is very well coached. They also run a zone alot which can disrupt teams who have never seen it. Their best performance last year was a 1-goal loss to Eagle Stix.

Empire is well below every other club mentioned here, at least at the 27 level.

If I had to guess, here is where these teams will end this years rankings.

YJ A -- Top 5
TG A -- Around 15
Jesters -- Around 20
YJB -- mid 20s
Liberty -- high 20s, low 30s
Legacy -- top 40
Empire -- 70s or 80s

Based on your assessment and analysis you must have FLG Navy outside the top 100.

Do they have a 27 team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on your assessment and analysis you must have FLG Navy outside the top 100.

No. They should be somewhere between 10-15 by end of year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on your assessment and analysis you must have FLG Navy outside the top 100.

No. They should be somewhere between 10-15 by end of year.

I think 9-10 this year and next year 3-4

Jesters 27' will finish top 12. Not as good as YJ A but not far behind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on your assessment and analysis you must have FLG Navy outside the top 100.

No. They should be somewhere between 10-15 by end of year.

I think 9-10 this year and next year 3-4

At 3-4, are you saying they are jumping Aces, YJ, M&D, Hero's Eaglestix....teams like that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on your assessment and analysis you must have FLG Navy outside the top 100.

No. They should be somewhere between 10-15 by end of year.

I think 9-10 this year and next year 3-4

At 3-4, are you saying they are jumping Aces, YJ, M&D, Hero's Eaglestix....teams like that?

Yes

So jesters bought Liberty?

Whoever omitted them from the earlier rankings just doesn’t know any better, but to be in the top three or four also seems like a reach. More likely than that they will be in the 8 to 15 slot by the end of the year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters 27' will finish top 12. Not as good as YJ A but not far behind.

This is nonsense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So jesters bought Liberty?

they did?

Jesters are top 3 on LI behind yj and flg

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do they have a 27 team?

Is your head in the sand?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on your assessment and analysis you must have FLG Navy outside the top 100.

No. They should be somewhere between 10-15 by end of year.

I think 9-10 this year and next year 3-4

At 3-4, are you saying they are jumping Aces, YJ, M&D, Hero's Eaglestix....teams like that?

Yes

This is the funniest thing I’ve ever read but when you play in bad tournaments vs teams ranked in the 100s and win by 10-20 goals maybe your team will be ranked 3-4.

Yes Jesters did buy liberty. It seems hush hush for now but we have been told by multiple sources involved in the deal including danielle.

The original poster and some others seem to be non FLG people who are trying to stir things up. FLG Navy will do just fine in the rankings wherever they finish. It’s about time they get some recognition and respect amongst the top teams as they can hang with all of them - not necessarily beat them, but will be very competitive.

Empire is playing this weekend!!!!! Hi Oh!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters 27' will finish top 12. Not as good as YJ A but not far behind.

This is nonsense

Well, Jesters beat Hero’s Green today, so they must be halfway decent.

They had a great day and great lax.

Congrats. Great win

Nonsense?! Apparently not.

Liberty parent and have been hearing Danielle trying to sell for two years now, so everyone knew it was coming. But how exactly does this unfold now?

Jesters bought liberty?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters bought liberty?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty parent and have been hearing Danielle trying to sell for two years now, so everyone knew it was coming. But how exactly does this unfold now?

Most clubs when they merge let the other club keep its name and teams. They may bring in a new director....but honestly given how checked out libertys management is itll be great for the girls. Any predictions who will take over?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters bought liberty?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty parent and have been hearing Danielle trying to sell for two years now, so everyone knew it was coming. But how exactly does this unfold now?

Most clubs when they merge let the other club keep its name and teams. They may bring in a new director....but honestly given how checked out libertys management is itll be great for the girls. Any predictions who will take over?

The real question is, do they try to create a mega team between the two clubs? If they do, would the Nassau girls want to travel to Suffolk to practice?

Jesters is Nassau based

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters 27' will finish top 12. Not as good as YJ A but not far behind.

This is nonsense

Well, Jesters beat Hero’s Green today, so they must be halfway decent.

Saw them play, they have size, play hard, and get to the FP line. They are dependent on how refs will call the game, they def get yellow cards with aggressive style but it wasn't out of control. They very much belong in the top-10 conversation and I think they could beat YJ A on the right day.

Their pressure defense caused issues for all teams they played today.

Power move by Jesters and with their showing this weekend, they will be overtaking FLG Navy and quite possibly YJA by end of summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Power move by Jesters and with their showing this weekend, they will be overtaking FLG Navy and quite possibly YJA by end of summer.

...and so the fall ball overreactions begin!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters 27' will finish top 12. Not as good as YJ A but not far behind.

This is nonsense

Well, Jesters beat Hero’s Green today, so they must be halfway decent.

Saw them play, they have size, play hard, and get to the FP line. They are dependent on how refs will call the game, they def get yellow cards with aggressive style but it wasn't out of control. They very much belong in the top-10 conversation and I think they could beat YJ A on the right day.

Their pressure defense caused issues for all teams they played today.

Interesting because they are one of the smallest teams...definitely aggressive but under control. Aren't all teams impacted by how the game is called and FP's?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Power move by Jesters and with their showing this weekend, they will be overtaking FLG Navy and quite possibly YJA by end of summer.

...and so the fall ball overreactions begin!!

Jesters is not as good as TG, but at the same level or a bit better than Liberty. Also probably pretty close to YJB.

Legacy doesn't have the talent, but is very well coached. They also run a zone alot which can disrupt teams who have never seen it. Their best performance last year was a 1-goal loss to Eagle Stix.

Empire is well below every other club mentioned here, at least at the 27 level.

If I had to guess, here is where these teams will end this years rankings.

YJ A -- Top 5
TG A -- Around 15
Jesters -- Around 20
YJB -- mid 20s
Liberty -- high 20s, low 30s
Legacy -- top 40
Empire -- 70s or 80s

Looking forward to revisiting this after the summer!

Again, I assume FLG is a 80 or above team based in your observations.

Lax On should be on this list. Have a few d1 commits this year.

Yes. Definitely rank them lower than Empire.

Bottom line is that there are definitely 3 top teams in the 27' group on Long Island. Then 2-3 second tier ones.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Power move by Jesters and with their showing this weekend, they will be overtaking FLG Navy and quite possibly YJA by end of summer.

...and so the fall ball overreactions begin!!

Jesters is not as good as TG, but at the same level or a bit better than Liberty. Also probably pretty close to YJB.

Legacy doesn't have the talent, but is very well coached. They also run a zone alot which can disrupt teams who have never seen it. Their best performance last year was a 1-goal loss to Eagle Stix.

Empire is well below every other club mentioned here, at least at the 27 level.

If I had to guess, here is where these teams will end this years rankings.

YJ A -- Top 5
TG A -- Around 15
Jesters -- Around 20
YJB -- mid 20s
Liberty -- high 20s, low 30s
Legacy -- top 40
Empire -- 70s or 80s

Looking forward to revisiting this after the summer!

Jesters is by far better than Top Guns, not even debatable.

They just beat the #2 team from last year and took it to the #13 team in MDU that beat TG twice by wide margins over summer.

Jesters is a top-10 team until they prove otherwise.

Yes and the top 3 teams will finish in the Top 10 nationally but in NY in this order:

1) YJA
2) Jesters
3) TG

Lots of great teams in NY. Remember, they’re in 8th grade.

Should be a fun few weekends to end the fall season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bottom line is that there are definitely 3 top teams in the 27' group on Long Island. Then 2-3 second tier ones.

thanks for your enlightened observation based on one tournament of fall ball

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and the top 3 teams will finish in the Top 10 nationally but in NY in this order:

1) YJA
2) Jesters
3) TG

Aces? FLG? FLG wiped the floor with TG and handily beat YJ last time they played. Jesters and FLG are the best coached teams around. That will be difference in the spring.

FLG?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and the top 3 teams will finish in the Top 10 nationally but in NY in this order:

1) YJA
2) Jesters
3) TG

Can we just agree that this is one of the strongest grad years on LI in a long time - so many strong teams it's great for all the girls

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and the top 3 teams will finish in the Top 10 nationally but in NY in this order:

1) YJA
2) Jesters
3) TG

Can we just agree that this is one of the strongest grad years on LI in a long time - so many strong teams it's great for all the girls

Its a very strong year for sure. I'd argue the 26 year is a bit stronger, especially if you start looking at recruitability (size, athleticism, speed). There are several top players on YJ and TG who have great stick skills

FLG too...

Flg hanging onto one top 10 win. Ever. YJb has to be ahead. They beat flg and hero’s. That’s two top 10 Wins. YJA had 5 top 10 wins in one week.

Jesters will be in trouble when they play on a field with competent refs who understand the 3 second rule, until then they should do what they do and mess up these offenses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters will be in trouble when they play on a field with competent refs who understand the 3 second rule, until then they should do what they do and mess up these offenses.

Ha..learn the game.. checking in and out of the 8m is called good defense. We can revisit this so called trouble at the end of the summer.

[quote=Anonymous]Flg hanging onto one top 10 win. Ever. YJb has to be ahead. They beat flg and hero’s. That’s two top 10 Wins. YJA had 5 top 10 wins in one week.

Yes and the top 3 teams will finish in the Top 10 nationally but in NY in this order:

1) YJA
2) Jesters
3) TG

Flg has beaten all 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters will be in trouble when they play on a field with competent refs who understand the 3 second rule, until then they should do what they do and mess up these offenses.

They will be in more trouble when they play refs who don’t know the rules (Eg in MD and Delaware) and call too many 3 seconds and shooting spaces

Tradition should be around 20

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters will be in trouble when they play on a field with competent refs who understand the 3 second rule, until then they should do what they do and mess up these offenses.

They will be in more trouble when they play refs who don’t know the rules (Eg in MD and Delaware) and call too many 3 seconds and shooting spaces

Grasping when you have to criticize referees to feel better about yourself

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Flg hanging onto one top 10 win. Ever. YJb has to be ahead. They beat flg and hero’s. That’s two top 10 Wins. YJA had 5 top 10 wins in one week.

Yes and the top 3 teams will finish in the Top 10 nationally but in NY in this order:

1) YJA
2) Jesters
3) TG

Flg has beaten all 3

Last season. Teams either get better, worse or stay the same every new season. Ask yourself which one is you

Seems like they are growing.

This weekend will be great. Everyone plays, finally start getting some meaningful games on the board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters will be in trouble when they play on a field with competent refs who understand the 3 second rule, until then they should do what they do and mess up these offenses.

Ha..learn the game.. checking in and out of the 8m is called good defense. We can revisit this so called trouble at the end of the summer.

You don’t even need to leave the 8M just get into a sticks length. I watched multiple games, they were moving enough, Refs there wouldn’t track and got away with it often.

Not a foul if refs don’t see it, including the checks to the head.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters will be in trouble when they play on a field with competent refs who understand the 3 second rule, until then they should do what they do and mess up these offenses.

They will be in more trouble when they play refs who don’t know the rules (Eg in MD and Delaware) and call too many 3 seconds and shooting spaces

Grasping when you have to criticize referees to feel better about yourself

No I'm complementing them on their defense. My point is most backer zone teams struggle in MD, where ref quality is much lower. That's just reality

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters will be in trouble when they play on a field with competent refs who understand the 3 second rule, until then they should do what they do and mess up these offenses.

Ha..learn the game.. checking in and out of the 8m is called good defense. We can revisit this so called trouble at the end of the summer.

You don’t even need to leave the 8M just get into a sticks length. I watched multiple games, they were moving enough, Refs there wouldn’t track and got away with it often.

Not a foul if refs don’t see it, including the checks to the head.

Love when I read, "I watched multiple games" So either you are a disgruntled parent on the team, a stalker, a scout or a liar. Are there many professional scouts watching 8th graders these days?? Hmmm

Very strong class. YJA played Lax for the Cure this weekend but were not matched up against Eagle Stix for some reason. At least they get Hero’s Green next weekend at LLL. If you’re gonna go play in Delaware, might as well play the best. Wish Aces and M&D were there too.

Eaglestix is done. Maybe ranked 8 this year

How many 2027 teams does Eagle Stix have and which is the A team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters will be in trouble when they play on a field with competent refs who understand the 3 second rule, until then they should do what they do and mess up these offenses.

Ha..learn the game.. checking in and out of the 8m is called good defense. We can revisit this so called trouble at the end of the summer.

You don’t even need to leave the 8M just get into a sticks length. I watched multiple games, they were moving enough, Refs there wouldn’t track and got away with it often.

Not a foul if refs don’t see it, including the checks to the head.

Love when I read, "I watched multiple games" So either you are a disgruntled parent on the team, a stalker, a scout or a liar. Are there many professional scouts watching 8th graders these days?? Hmmm

Or the team tent was said up on the hill above the field where I spent 4 hours of my day at where Jesters played.

You’ve never watched other games between your kids? Do you go to your car?

No way a parent could watch multiple games right?

These forum would be so much better if they had emojis. That crying one could be I served every post.

Eagle stix usually has 2 teams per grade. Blue is A team. Grey is B team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is done. Maybe ranked 8 this year

That doesn't sit well for FLG. Who Eagle Stix best 9-4. (and the game really wasn't even that close).7

I watched this game. First time I saw FLG play. Some really athletic girls and very strong on draw circle.

But stick skills while strong, just aren't in the same league of the top 7 or 8 clubs nationally. Too many passes dropped by wide open cutters. A couple of their starting defenders really don't have a left hand of the lax IQ knowing when to swing the ball.

They are probably still a top 15 team and have some of the best players on the island. But comparisons to the top teams in the country at this point really aren't fair. However, their middle line and a couple of their attackers are outstanding. If they can add 4 or 5 players, especially on the D side, they can be elite.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is done. Maybe ranked 8 this year

That doesn't sit well for FLG. Who Eagle Stix best 9-4. (and the game really wasn't even that close).7

I watched this game. First time I saw FLG play. Some really athletic girls and very strong on draw circle.

But stick skills while strong, just aren't in the same league of the top 7 or 8 clubs nationally. Too many passes dropped by wide open cutters. A couple of their starting defenders really don't have a left hand of the lax IQ knowing when to swing the ball.

They are probably still a top 15 team and have some of the best players on the island. But comparisons to the top teams in the country at this point really aren't fair. However, their middle line and a couple of their attackers are outstanding. If they can add 4 or 5 players, especially on the D side, they can be elite.

FLG will be top 3 by end of the summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eaglestix is done. Maybe ranked 8 this year

That doesn't sit well for FLG. Who Eagle Stix best 9-4. (and the game really wasn't even that close).7

I watched this game. First time I saw FLG play. Some really athletic girls and very strong on draw circle.

But stick skills while strong, just aren't in the same league of the top 7 or 8 clubs nationally. Too many passes dropped by wide open cutters. A couple of their starting defenders really don't have a left hand of the lax IQ knowing when to swing the ball.

They are probably still a top 15 team and have some of the best players on the island. But comparisons to the top teams in the country at this point really aren't fair. However, their middle line and a couple of their attackers are outstanding. If they can add 4 or 5 players, especially on the D side, they can be elite.

FLG will be top 3 by end of the summer

Top 3 on Long island? I may buy that. Without a roster upgrade, they will struggle with against any top 10 teams.

Ok FLG dad. You guys have a great team. Girls seem happy! Enjoy it. But top 3, no. big loss against a top 10 team yesterday. Could be a bad game. Could be refs. Who knows…but definitely not a top 3 team. Yesterdays scores show another LI teams came closer to eagle sticks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok FLG dad. You guys have a great team. Girls seem happy! Enjoy it. But top 3, no. big loss against a top 10 team yesterday. Could be a bad game. Could be refs. Who knows…but definitely not a top 3 team. Yesterdays scores show another LI teams came closer to eagle sticks.

FLG had a 3-2 halftime lead. Got dominated in the draw circle in the second half. Barely had possession. FLG is definitely top 3 on LI. YJA, FLG, and Jesters are the top 3 and can each beat the others on any given day. The good news is that there are probably 6 teams on the island that will be in the top 25. Now that is something to celebrate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok FLG dad. You guys have a great team. Girls seem happy! Enjoy it. But top 3, no. big loss against a top 10 team yesterday. Could be a bad game. Could be refs. Who knows…but definitely not a top 3 team. Yesterdays scores show another LI teams came closer to eagle sticks.

FLG had a 3-2 halftime lead. Got dominated in the draw circle in the second half. Barely had possession. FLG is definitely top 3 on LI. YJA, FLG, and Jesters are the top 3 and can each beat the others on any given day. The good news is that there are probably 6 teams on the island that will be in the top 25. Now that is something to celebrate.

Which 6 ?

Empire!

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

You know who thinks fall wins and losses don't matter? The teams that lose in the fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters will be in trouble when they play on a field with competent refs who understand the 3 second rule, until then they should do what they do and mess up these offenses.

Ha..learn the game.. checking in and out of the 8m is called good defense. We can revisit this so called trouble at the end of the summer.

You don’t even need to leave the 8M just get into a sticks length. I watched multiple games, they were moving enough, Refs there wouldn’t track and got away with it often.

Not a foul if refs don’t see it, including the checks to the head.

Love when I read, "I watched multiple games" So either you are a disgruntled parent on the team, a stalker, a scout or a liar. Are there many professional scouts watching 8th graders these days?? Hmmm

You know lots of parents watch other games when their daughters aren't playing. Beats vaping in the parking lots like dads of a certain LI club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

You know who thinks fall wins and losses don't matter? The teams that lose in the fall.

Wins and losses in the summer don't matter either. Club is about developmen, visibility, and exposure to top competition. Wins and losses matter at the high school varsity level.

While it it is great for girls to win and get an occasional backpack, if that is your club director's first priority, then find a new club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

Tell the to the girls who quit the team last year before the season was over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

Tell the to the girls who quit the team last year before the season was over.

Nobody quit mid season last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

What top level team is known for that? None that I've seen (Aces, YJ, TG, Jesters). Nor should it be at the top level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

What top level team is known for that? None that I've seen (Aces, YJ, TG, Jesters). Nor should it be at the top level.

YJ had close to even PT at Lax for the Cure. Not sure if it was intentional or not since none of the games were close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

What top level team is known for that? None that I've seen (Aces, YJ, TG, Jesters). Nor should it be at the top level.

YJ had close to even PT at Lax for the Cure. Not sure if it was intentional or not since none of the games were close.

Yes, sometimes the competition or lack thereof allows for more even PT. Certainly the case for
YJ in that tourney.

YJ and FLG, both dominate lower level teams this fall but no big wins.

[quote=Anonymous]YJ and FLG, both dominate lower level teams this fall but no big wins.

Is there a point you are trying to make here?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

What top level team is known for that? None that I've seen (Aces, YJ, TG, Jesters). Nor should it be at the top level.

Great question. What are people’s thoughts on equal playing time in 8th grade 2027 summer tournaments? Are we past it at this level? Should parents be able to complain for top level teams or just expect the better players to see the field more.

And since when is Top Guns a top level team in 2027? They seem to play well against lower competition, but seem to struggle against the better teams. Jesters Black really seems to be on the right trajectory playing well as a team and showing they can compete with anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

What top level team is known for that? None that I've seen (Aces, YJ, TG, Jesters). Nor should it be at the top level.

Great question. What are people’s thoughts on equal playing time in 8th grade 2027 summer tournaments? Are we past it at this level? Should parents be able to complain for top level teams or just expect the better players to see the field more.

And since when is Top Guns a top level team in 2027? They seem to play well against lower competition, but seem to struggle against the better teams. Jesters Black really seems to be on the right trajectory playing well as a team and showing they can compete with anyone.

At the highest level of 8th grade you will certainly not see equal playing time. That's why they are top teams. Equal playing time is seen more in the B and C levels.

More equitable playing time starts around 10th grade for top teams.

TG Black lost to YJs 3rd team yesterday. Enough said

TG didn’t lose to the YJS 3rd team. YLJ Stadoer who they played is the ylj’s A team. Maybe do some research before posting fake news.

They lost to YJ A team 8-4, but also beat MD united who beat the YJ team. TG 27 team is not deep but a good squad. It hurt missing 2 top middies this weekend. Its fall see you in the spring, but get your facts straight.

Who did they pick up. Didn’t they drop a bunch of girls from last years team

Apparently you keep commenting without doing your homework. Try not to speak on issues you don't know about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

What top level team is known for that? None that I've seen (Aces, YJ, TG, Jesters). Nor should it be at the top level.

Great question. What are people’s thoughts on equal playing time in 8th grade 2027 summer tournaments? Are we past it at this level? Should parents be able to complain for top level teams or just expect the better players to see the field more.

And since when is Top Guns a top level team in 2027? They seem to play well against lower competition, but seem to struggle against the better teams. Jesters Black really seems to be on the right trajectory playing well as a team and showing they can compete with anyone.

At the highest level of 8th grade you will certainly not see equal playing time. That's why they are top teams. Equal playing time is seen more in the B and C levels.

More equitable playing time starts around 10th grade for top teams.

Ewww. You said the "E" word on a sports forum.

Has anyone played in the LILJ winter league? If so, what’s the feedback?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

You know who thinks fall wins and losses don't matter? The teams that lose in the fall.

Wins and losses in the summer don't matter either. Club is about developmen, visibility, and exposure to top competition. Wins and losses matter at the high school varsity level.

While it it is great for girls to win and get an occasional backpack, if that is your club director's first priority, then find a new club.

Not completely true.. are college coaches watching the number 90 ranked team or the top 10? Are those same coaches forming relationships with bottom or top clubs? Rankings do matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One thing flg is not known for is equal pt for all but yesterday the bench played a lot. Did it hurt them? Probably. Do wins and losses in the Fall matter? Probably not.

You know who thinks fall wins and losses don't matter? The teams that lose in the fall.

Wins and losses in the summer don't matter either. Club is about developmen, visibility, and exposure to top competition. Wins and losses matter at the high school varsity level.

While it it is great for girls to win and get an occasional backpack, if that is your club director's first priority, then find a new club.

Not completely true.. are college coaches watching the number 90 ranked team or the top 10? Are those same coaches forming relationships with bottom or top clubs? Rankings do matter.

Rankings matter as the better teams will be playing the better teams in tournaments and showcases. You can still get noticed and recruited from your high school but coaches all showing up on the sideline of a matchup of top teams at a tournament is a lot easier.

A lot of early fall chatter on where LI teams would rank. Overall it looks like a few LI clubs met those expectations. Looking forward to the summer.

Jesters really took a leap from last fall to this fall.

A YJ vs Jesters matchup would be fun to see. Hopefully FLG can get into more top brackets in big tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters really took a leap from last fall to this fall.

A YJ vs Jesters matchup would be fun to see. Hopefully FLG can get into more top brackets in big tournaments.

They played this fall at a jesters event. 7-4 YJ

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters really took a leap from last fall to this fall.

A YJ vs Jesters matchup would be fun to see. Hopefully FLG can get into more top brackets in big tournaments.

They played this fall at a jesters event. 7-4 YJ

Interesting, as Jesters is ranked above them. Wonder if that was tight and then fell off late or if YJ controlled the game.

The method of rankings many times does not make any logical sense especially during fall ball.

Rankings didn’t include the game. That tourney never reported it’s scores. Rankings only really matter at the end of the year. Too many games in spring to change them.

Was a very tight game. Jesters missing a few starters.

Jesters talking very confidant. Make sure it continues into summer. My guess it’s not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rankings didn’t include the game. That tourney never reported it’s scores. Rankings only really matter at the end of the year. Too many games in spring to change them.

Plenty of games to change rankings, but for most part, it matches generally last's year end of season rankings. It honestly is pretty accurate imo. Some teams get bumped up beating up on weak teams. A few games a little skewed because they were 22 min long playoff games, and just couldn't have the margin of victory.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was a very tight game. Jesters missing a few starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters talking very confidant. Make sure it continues into summer. My guess it’s not.

Where are jesters talking confident? More like other clubs sweating it out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was a very tight game. Jesters missing a few starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters talking very confidant. Make sure it continues into summer. My guess it’s not.

Where are jesters talking confident? More like other clubs sweating it out.

Jesters is all talk no actions. Club is falling apart at it’s seems with unhappy families at every age group. Stop bragging about yourself on an anonymous forum and work on fixing your issues first

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was a very tight game. Jesters missing a few starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters talking very confidant. Make sure it continues into summer. My guess it’s not.

Where are jesters talking confident? More like other clubs sweating it out.

Jesters is all talk no actions. Club is falling apart at it’s seems with unhappy families at every age group. Stop bragging about yourself on an anonymous forum and work on fixing your issues first

Where is the bragging? Unhappy families? That's everywhere, every club and in every facet of life. But thank you for bringing attention to it YJ parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was a very tight game. Jesters missing a few starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters talking very confidant. Make sure it continues into summer. My guess it’s not.

Where are jesters talking confident? More like other clubs sweating it out.

Jesters is all talk no actions. Club is falling apart at it’s seems with unhappy families at every age group. Stop bragging about yourself on an anonymous forum and work on fixing your issues first

To be fair, the 27 and 28s teams are much happier with club than older teams. Completely agree that 23-25 teams were a complete S$#@ show.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was a very tight game. Jesters missing a few starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters talking very confidant. Make sure it continues into summer. My guess it’s not.

Where are jesters talking confident? More like other clubs sweating it out.

Jesters is all talk no actions. Club is falling apart at it’s seems with unhappy families at every age group. Stop bragging about yourself on an anonymous forum and work on fixing your issues first

Fake news

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was a very tight game. Jesters missing a few starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters talking very confidant. Make sure it continues into summer. My guess it’s not.

Where are jesters talking confident? More like other clubs sweating it out.

Jesters is all talk no actions. Club is falling apart at its seems with unhappy families at every age group. Stop bragging about yourself on an anonymous forum and work on fixing your issues first

Sorry that you’re not happy over at mommy and daddy ball, I’m sure we will be getting more great players from the bench that the coaches won’t play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was a very tight game. Jesters missing a few starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters talking very confidant. Make sure it continues into summer. My guess it’s not.

Where are jesters talking confident? More like other clubs sweating it out.

Jesters is all talk no actions. Club is falling apart at its seems with unhappy families at every age group. Stop bragging about yourself on an anonymous forum and work on fixing your issues first

Sorry that you’re not happy over at mommy and daddy ball, I’m sure we will be getting more great players from the bench that the coaches won’t play.

Falling apart? Their results (team's success, tryout turnouts etc.) show otherwise...should be more concerned that you are commenting about another club. You clearly must be unhappy with your own. But let's not forget, every year every family has a choice as to where they play.

FLG defense looks sound, vs TG today in a 7v7 a one sided game.

TG missing many of their key players. Would be a different outcome and it’s still not even prime season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG defense looks sound, vs TG today in a 7v7 a one sided game.

TG missing a lot of key players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG defense looks sound, vs TG today in a 7v7 a one sided game.

TG missing a lot of key players

7 v 7? That's not a real lacrosse game. It's fun fast paced pick up lacrosse that has nothing to do with a 12v12 game.

You serious, 7 v 7 in a hockey rink isn't real lax. Just people getting rich off FOMO.

Keep knocking Jesters but when the DMV board is discussing them, then you know that they have established themselves as a top threat and competitive team. Happy and healthy 2023 to all and hopefully the LI teams continue to improve and make their mark nationally.

Why would the dmv be discussing jesters? Don’t they only handle licenses? Silly people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You serious, 7 v 7 in a hockey rink isn't real lax. Just people getting rich off FOMO.

LILJ does a nice job with the winter box. The standings and stats are a nice touch and the kids love it. Relax. It’s an opportunity for kids to compete in the winter and stay sharp. Nobody is taking it too serious and the kids are having fun. Do you have a better option?

Boys forums seem to love LILJ as well....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You serious, 7 v 7 in a hockey rink isn't real lax. Just people getting rich off FOMO.

It's fun for the girls which is great. But if the purpose is to get better, spending some $$ on private lessons is probably a better idea.

which teams are doing NGLL this spring? I know Tradition, Jesters, and Legacy are. Any others?

Liberty , Shore 2 Shore, Empire, Igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty , Shore 2 Shore, Empire, Igloo

????? All the bottom teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty , Shore 2 Shore, Empire, Igloo

????? All the bottom teams?

What team do you play fortv2UZT

Jesters should be in conversation for best team on LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters should be in conversation for best team on LI

That’s hilarious

It is along with YJA, FLG Navy and then possibly TG Black

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boys forums seem to love LILJ as well....

No they don't ....lilj is irrelevant for boys . It's a joke . Stop making stuff up .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters should be in conversation for best team on LI

who said they weren't - but please stop it's January....we'll talk after the summer and see where all the teams stack at that point

Why didn’t jesters post their tourney loss in fall to YJ? Hmmmmmm.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why didn’t jesters post their tourney loss in fall to YJ? Hmmmmmm.

Because the tourney didn’t put results on a website. You need verification of results for US Club Lax to accept

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why didn’t jesters post their tourney loss in fall to YJ? Hmmmmmm.

It's January 23rd...you just found this out? It wasn't a sanctioned tourney. Scores weren't kept throughout the day (no scorers table). Although a competitive game, everyone on here knows YJ won by a few.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why didn’t jesters post their tourney loss in fall to YJ? Hmmmmmm.

Because the tourney didn’t put results on a website. You need verification of results for US Club Lax to accept

Or because these are 8th grade girls and it doesn't mean anything?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why didn’t jesters post their tourney loss in fall to YJ? Hmmmmmm.

Because the tourney didn’t put results on a website. You need verification of results for US Club Lax to accept

Or because these are 8th grade girls and it doesn't mean anything?

Does anything mean anything then?

Lists mean everything

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lists mean everything

Jesters on the list #3 in country

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lists mean everything

Go home and hug your daughter

Jesters is very good, but they are a little overrrated at #3.

They are in the top-10 conversation for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters is very good, but they are a little overrrated at #3.

They are in the top-10 conversation for sure.

Rankings are definitely fun for players/parents. But at the end of the day, the goal should be developing players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is along with YJA, FLG Navy and then possibly TG Black

What is this post referring to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is along with YJA, FLG Navy and then possibly TG Black

What is this post referring to?

Earlier jesters post relating to where they stack up with other LI clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters is very good, but they are a little overrrated at #3.

They are in the top-10 conversation for sure.

Rankings are definitely fun for players/parents. But at the end of the day, the goal should be developing players.

Very true but they are semi-related. You need to retain top players and recruit top players in order to get better so girls can develop. Rankings are a big part of both aspects. They aren't 100% accurate of course, but pretty close to it, especially end of year rankings after each club has played over 25 games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters is very good, but they are a little overrrated at #3.

They are in the top-10 conversation for sure.

Rankings are definitely fun for players/parents. But at the end of the day, the goal should be developing players.

Very true but they are semi-related. You need to retain top players and recruit top players in order to get better so girls can develop. Rankings are a big part of both aspects. They aren't 100% accurate of course, but pretty close to it, especially end of year rankings after each club has played over 25 games.

The Fall rankings seem accurate too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters is very good, but they are a little overrrated at #3.

They are in the top-10 conversation for sure.

Rankings are definitely fun for players/parents. But at the end of the day, the goal should be developing players.

Very true but they are semi-related. You need to retain top players and recruit top players in order to get better so girls can develop. Rankings are a big part of both aspects. They aren't 100% accurate of course, but pretty close to it, especially end of year rankings after each club has played over 25 games.

The Fall rankings seem accurate too

they absolutely aren't...look at some of the clubs appearing in the Top 25 from out west out of nowhere after playing a ton of games against nobody for example - they will be long down the list come summer...plus rosters not having kids with other commitments in the fall etc. Some teams that were ranked Top 10 (FLG) barely played and didn't play enough games to be ranked for example.

Jesters may have a lot of teams but the quality of the training and coaching staff is going downhill. We have never been as dissapointed with winter training as we have this year. Where is Esposido whose in charge of this according to what we were told. The training seems like she rolled out of bed, made some shooting drills up, and prayed no one noticed that our kids were partner passing standing still for 30 minutes between warmups and one of the so called drills. Pathetic waste of time and money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters may have a lot of teams but the quality of the training and coaching staff is going downhill. We have never been as dissapointed with winter training as we have this year. Where is Esposido whose in charge of this according to what we were told. The training seems like she rolled out of bed, made some shooting drills up, and prayed no one noticed that our kids were partner passing standing still for 30 minutes between warmups and one of the so called drills. Pathetic waste of time and money.

Is your daughter a 27'? I personally haven't witnessed 30 min of partner passing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters may have a lot of teams but the quality of the training and coaching staff is going downhill. We have never been as dissapointed with winter training as we have this year. Where is Esposido whose in charge of this according to what we were told. The training seems like she rolled out of bed, made some shooting drills up, and prayed no one noticed that our kids were partner passing standing still for 30 minutes between warmups and one of the so called drills. Pathetic waste of time and money.

This is such a cop out post. Instead of coming on here and griping about lack of /poor training and drills, talk to her directly. Who on here is going to solve that issue for you? Wo/Man up and go directly to her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters may have a lot of teams but the quality of the training and coaching staff is going downhill. We have never been as dissapointed with winter training as we have this year. Where is Esposido whose in charge of this according to what we were told. The training seems like she rolled out of bed, made some shooting drills up, and prayed no one noticed that our kids were partner passing standing still for 30 minutes between warmups and one of the so called drills. Pathetic waste of time and money.

This is such a cop out post. Instead of coming on here and griping about lack of /poor training and drills, talk to her directly. Who on here is going to solve that issue for you? Wo/Man up and go directly to her.

Not to mention that if your kid was partner passing, they clearly need the work. The game can't be played without throwing and catching. Perhaps you should get an honest assessment of where your kid stands. The training takes into account the age and ability.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters is very good, but they are a little overrrated at #3.

They are in the top-10 conversation for sure.

Rankings are definitely fun for players/parents. But at the end of the day, the goal should be developing players.

Very true but they are semi-related. You need to retain top players and recruit top players in order to get better so girls can develop. Rankings are a big part of both aspects. They aren't 100% accurate of course, but pretty close to it, especially end of year rankings after each club has played over 25 games.

The Fall rankings seem accurate too

they absolutely aren't...look at some of the clubs appearing in the Top 25 from out west out of nowhere after playing a ton of games against nobody for example - they will be long down the list come summer...plus rosters not having kids with other commitments in the fall etc. Some teams that were ranked Top 10 (FLG) barely played and didn't play enough games to be ranked for example.

Very true. With all due respect to "Boulder Rainbows", beating them by 10 should not get you the same points as beating #1 Hero's by 1.

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Yes, because if a team isn't from Long Island or Maryland, they must not be any good.

No team on Long Island has a starting lineup that is even close to the quality of Alliance National. Are they deeper? probably, but if Alliance only plays its starters, they would win many more than they would lose against any of the top LI teams.

And before someone says that YJ beat Alliance 3-2 at MidAtlantic last summer, about half of Alliance's team from last summer got cut from this summer's team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters may have a lot of teams but the quality of the training and coaching staff is going downhill. We have never been as dissapointed with winter training as we have this year. Where is Esposido whose in charge of this according to what we were told. The training seems like she rolled out of bed, made some shooting drills up, and prayed no one noticed that our kids were partner passing standing still for 30 minutes between warmups and one of the so called drills. Pathetic waste of time and money.

Fake news. No parents are inside during training so I guess you have x-ray vision through bubble. Watch the instagram post videos. I seem to have missed all the supposed 30 minute partner passing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Yes, because if a team isn't from Long Island or Maryland, they must not be any good.

No team on Long Island has a starting lineup that is even close to the quality of Alliance National. Are they deeper? probably, but if Alliance only plays its starters, they would win many more than they would lose against any of the top LI teams.

And before someone says that YJ beat Alliance 3-2 at MidAtlantic last summer, about half of Alliance's team from last summer got cut from this summer's team.

Alliance Dad has entered the chat!!.....absolutely wild comments above

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Yes, because if a team isn't from Long Island or Maryland, they must not be any good.

No team on Long Island has a starting lineup that is even close to the quality of Alliance National. Are they deeper? probably, but if Alliance only plays its starters, they would win many more than they would lose against any of the top LI teams.

And before someone says that YJ beat Alliance 3-2 at MidAtlantic last summer, about half of Alliance's team from last summer got cut from this summer's team.

Alliance Dad has entered the chat!!.....absolutely wild comments above

Ha, Alliance is an all star team. Why are we comparing them to individual club teams? Those types of teams shouldn't even be a part of rankings.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Yes, because if a team isn't from Long Island or Maryland, they must not be any good.

No team on Long Island has a starting lineup that is even close to the quality of Alliance National. Are they deeper? probably, but if Alliance only plays its starters, they would win many more than they would lose against any of the top LI teams.

And before someone says that YJ beat Alliance 3-2 at MidAtlantic last summer, about half of Alliance's team from last summer got cut from this summer's team.

Alliance Dad has entered the chat!!.....absolutely wild comments above

One thing we can all agree on is that YJA and Jesters are the class of Long Island and would put them up against any team in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Yes, because if a team isn't from Long Island or Maryland, they must not be any good.

No team on Long Island has a starting lineup that is even close to the quality of Alliance National. Are they deeper? probably, but if Alliance only plays its starters, they would win many more than they would lose against any of the top LI teams.

And before someone says that YJ beat Alliance 3-2 at MidAtlantic last summer, about half of Alliance's team from last summer got cut from this summer's team.

Alliance Dad has entered the chat!!.....absolutely wild comments above

Ha, Alliance is an all star team. Why are we comparing them to individual club teams? Those types of teams shouldn't even be a part of rankings.

Bingo! Imagine central MD or Long Island picked the top kids and enrolled them into a tournament, of course they would dominant, but Alliance didn't even play in a big tournament (fun but not good).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Yes, because if a team isn't from Long Island or Maryland, they must not be any good.

No team on Long Island has a starting lineup that is even close to the quality of Alliance National. Are they deeper? probably, but if Alliance only plays its starters, they would win many more than they would lose against any of the top LI teams.

And before someone says that YJ beat Alliance 3-2 at MidAtlantic last summer, about half of Alliance's team from last summer got cut from this summer's team.

Alliance Dad has entered the chat!!.....absolutely wild comments above

One thing we can all agree on is that YJA and Jesters are the class of Long Island and would put them up against any team in the country.

You mean a combo? I may put Hero's/M&D combo above them, would be good game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Yes, because if a team isn't from Long Island or Maryland, they must not be any good.

No team on Long Island has a starting lineup that is even close to the quality of Alliance National. Are they deeper? probably, but if Alliance only plays its starters, they would win many more than they would lose against any of the top LI teams.

And before someone says that YJ beat Alliance 3-2 at MidAtlantic last summer, about half of Alliance's team from last summer got cut from this summer's team.

Alliance Dad has entered the chat!!.....absolutely wild comments above

and just imagine if Long Island or Maryland created an "Alliance" team of just their best players....cmon

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Yes, because if a team isn't from Long Island or Maryland, they must not be any good.

No team on Long Island has a starting lineup that is even close to the quality of Alliance National. Are they deeper? probably, but if Alliance only plays its starters, they would win many more than they would lose against any of the top LI teams.

And before someone says that YJ beat Alliance 3-2 at MidAtlantic last summer, about half of Alliance's team from last summer got cut from this summer's team.

Alliance Dad has entered the chat!!.....absolutely wild comments above

One thing we can all agree on is that YJA and Jesters are the class of Long Island and would put them up against any team in the country.

haha no we definitely do NOT all agree on this....not even close. going to be a fun summer!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Yes, because if a team isn't from Long Island or Maryland, they must not be any good.

No team on Long Island has a starting lineup that is even close to the quality of Alliance National. Are they deeper? probably, but if Alliance only plays its starters, they would win many more than they would lose against any of the top LI teams.

And before someone says that YJ beat Alliance 3-2 at MidAtlantic last summer, about half of Alliance's team from last summer got cut from this summer's team.

Alliance Dad has entered the chat!!.....absolutely wild comments above

Ha, Alliance is an all star team. Why are we comparing them to individual club teams? Those types of teams shouldn't even be a part of rankings.

Bingo! Imagine central MD or Long Island picked the top kids and enrolled them into a tournament, of course they would dominant, but Alliance didn't even play in a big tournament (fun but not good).

You don’t follow boys Lacrosse much then. Half of the top ten are either national teams or have out of state players from multiple states.

Like it or not, this will be the norm in girls Lacrosse within four or five years.

Well, the boys have it wrong and its a shame the girls game is going into that direction. I get why its happening and its not in the best interest of the players, but rather a way to make money and gives certain clubs another carrot to dangle in front of would be customers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Yes, because if a team isn't from Long Island or Maryland, they must not be any good.

No team on Long Island has a starting lineup that is even close to the quality of Alliance National. Are they deeper? probably, but if Alliance only plays its starters, they would win many more than they would lose against any of the top LI teams.

And before someone says that YJ beat Alliance 3-2 at MidAtlantic last summer, about half of Alliance's team from last summer got cut from this summer's team.

Alliance Dad has entered the chat!!.....absolutely wild comments above

One thing we can all agree on is that YJA and Jesters are the class of Long Island and would put them up against any team in the country.

Does anyone know FLG's summer schedule? Are they playing in any top tourneys?

YJ Dad here.

We played them in a 20 minute game last summer. In terms of talent, they were probably better than us at 7 or 8 positions. However, their entire offense was 2 or 3 man games and there really wasn't much "flow".

Looking at their results so far this year. They have played in 2 west coast tourneys this year and won... ZERO of them.

Until they play as a team, I don't see this changing. I could see them beating a top 5 club as a one off, but tough to win a tourney.

However, if they every start to play as a team...

I can see this being the type of team that never wins anything but has college coaches drooling because of all the raw talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ Dad here.

We played them in a 20 minute game last summer. In terms of talent, they were probably better than us at 7 or 8 positions. However, their entire offense was 2 or 3 man games and there really wasn't much "flow".

Looking at their results so far this year. They have played in 2 west coast tourneys this year and won... ZERO of them.

Until they play as a team, I don't see this changing. I could see them beating a top 5 club as a one off, but tough to win a tourney.

However, if they every start to play as a team...

I can see this being the type of team that never wins anything but has college coaches drooling because of all the raw talent.

Unless the players on these types of national teams leave their current clubs (which they won't), this will not become a big part of the girl's side. There's only so many good tourneys outside the big ones that it's not even worth playing for one of these teams since all you will see is inferior competition. Outside mid-atlantic, I've never seen Alliance at another decent tourney. West Coast tourneys aren't something to brag about and as YJ Dad stated, they didn't even win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ Dad here.

We played them in a 20 minute game last summer. In terms of talent, they were probably better than us at 7 or 8 positions. However, their entire offense was 2 or 3 man games and there really wasn't much "flow".

Looking at their results so far this year. They have played in 2 west coast tourneys this year and won... ZERO of them.

Until they play as a team, I don't see this changing. I could see them beating a top 5 club as a one off, but tough to win a tourney.

However, if they every start to play as a team...

I can see this being the type of team that never wins anything but has college coaches drooling because of all the raw talent.

Unless the players on these types of national teams leave their current clubs (which they won't), this will not become a big part of the girl's side. There's only so many good tourneys outside the big ones that it's not even worth playing for one of these teams since all you will see is inferior competition. Outside mid-atlantic, I've never seen Alliance at another decent tourney. West Coast tourneys aren't something to brag about and as YJ Dad stated, they didn't even win.

On the boys side, it isn't take kids leaving their clubs. It's about creating an additional A+ team to elevate competition for certain tourneys. Look at Team 91 or MadLax for boys. For team 91 national, about 10-12 kids are from the Team 91 plus they add 8 other studs from across the country. I don't know numbers on MadLax but assume it is pretty much the same model

I think it will happen slowly over time and the top 10 clubs probably won't be impacted for a while and it definitely won't impact the 2027s in the next three years .

There is a team called Maryland select which is an all-star team from 3 or 4 mid-tier Maryland clubs which will play in a few tourneys as well this summer. Last year at AU Futures my LI daughter was asked if she wanted to play on that team.

Currently on the girls side, Mad Dog Elite is also a national team, which while not great is probably a legit top 40 national team.

However, to your point before, most of the girls on Alliance National and HHH National play on other clubs. Actually there are more Mass Elite girls on HHH National than HHH girls.

Team 91 is working harder to create girls national teams as well. Could impact 29s or 30s where they actually have a decent core of talent.

What does dodging high and shooting low exactly mean?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does dodging high and shooting low exactly mean?

I think you mean, faking high and shooting low. It just means that shooting need to throw in some fakes to make it harder for goalies to save. This is something good shooting do and average shooters don't

Thanks. I agree with you on that -- the deception of shooting on goal, but I actually messed up the question . Was just corrected by my daughter that the coach at a clinic she attended said. The coach said she needed attackers who can dodge high and feed low. Everyone seemed to nod their head, and but she didn't know what she meant by that. So I'm asking here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On the boys side, it isn't take kids leaving their clubs. It's about creating an additional A+ team to elevate competition for certain tourneys. Look at Team 91 or MadLax for boys. For team 91 national, about 10-12 kids are from the Team 91 plus they add 8 other studs from across the country. I don't know numbers on MadLax but assume it is pretty much the same model

I think it will happen slowly over time and the top 10 clubs probably won't be impacted for a while and it definitely won't impact the 2027s in the next three years .

There is a team called Maryland select which is an all-star team from 3 or 4 mid-tier Maryland clubs which will play in a few tourneys as well this summer. Last year at AU Futures my LI daughter was asked if she wanted to play on that team.

Currently on the girls side, Mad Dog Elite is also a national team, which while not great is probably a legit top 40 national team.

However, to your point before, most of the girls on Alliance National and HHH National play on other clubs. Actually there are more Mass Elite girls on HHH National than HHH girls.

Team 91 is working harder to create girls national teams as well. Could impact 29s or 30s where they actually have a decent core of talent.

That's not how it works with 91 Long Island. The 91 LI A teams have nothing to do with the 91 "National" team. They generally don't participate, they don't play, nothing. 91's National Team is a money grab, and nothing more, just like 91 Girls. 91 Boys LI 2025 Shock has players from out of state, not a bunch, but some. Some boys clubs do have real national teams, like True, Madlax, Mad Dog (not really a national team, just CA and NJ).

Unless you live in areas where there isn't much lacrosse, and everything is very spread out, national teams are just an expensive money grab.

A far better experience is something like Inside Lacrosse's IDX event where your daughter gets to play with top girls from all over, against top girls from all over. The completion is good, the experience is even better. With UA/AS, the girls don't get to play with girls from outside their region.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thanks. I agree with you on that -- the deception of shooting on goal, but I actually messed up the question . Was just corrected by my daughter that the coach at a clinic she attended said. The coach said she needed attackers who can dodge high and feed low. Everyone seemed to nod their head, and but she didn't know what she meant by that. So I'm asking here.

She likely means she wants attackers that are comfortable dodging from the top of the 8m arc and also can operate from behind the cage (feed cutters).

She means she wants players who can dodge from up top but keep their head up so they can feed low attackers on the crease when the slide comes. It’s called being a triple threat….ability to dodge, shoot or pass….this is what the elite players can do

Makes alot of sense to be a true triple threat. Dodging above the 8m and drawing the slide, only to feed low attackers. It's not all about going to goal. What threw me off was the asking of someone to actually feed it low (versus to a low attacker). What do you know, words mean something! Thanks for clearing this up.

Question about the LILJ winter box league in Bethpage. I noticed there were a few 27 club teams in the high school division. What's the competition level? Would it be too high for an 8th grade PAL team? Would they be better off in the middle school division?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question about the LILJ winter box league in Bethpage. I noticed there were a few 27 club teams in the high school division. What's the competition level? Would it be too high for an 8th grade PAL team? Would they be better off in the middle school division?

Pretty decent skilled, but more physical than anything else. Lots of 1:1 play. More cardio than any real lax development.

Wouldn't consider a PAL team unless almost your entire roster plays on a A level club. Even the middle school division could be tough.

The girls should be required to wear helmets and equipment just like a box lacrosse setting. Very physical and many players getting smashed into the boards.

Jeez. Are there a lot of injuries?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jeez. Are there a lot of injuries?

Haven't seen many serious injuries, but with the physical play and hands-off reffing its only a matter of time.

Bigger, stronger girls tend to dominate in that setting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bigger, stronger girls tend to dominate in that setting

Small space leads to the bigger kids crushing it

Thoughts on Excelsior games? Anyone do it last year?

This is the first year for them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on Excelsior games? Anyone do it last year?

It was fun, but the competition was subpar at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jeez. Are there a lot of injuries?

Haven't seen many serious injuries, but with the physical play and hands-off reffing its only a matter of time.

Play box or don't play box. If they aren't wearing equipment, it's not box, it is dangerous and notIntelligent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on Excelsior games? Anyone do it last year?

It was fun, but the competition was subpar at best.

Yes, 1st for 27', was there for 26'. Not good competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on Excelsior games? Anyone do it last year?

It was fun, but the competition was subpar at best.

Suffolk teams tend to be very good with most YJ players. Nassau teams decent with a good mix between clubs. Upstate teams tend not to send their best players so lots of very uneven games.

Same time as Goaliesmith, so should be good for offensive players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thoughts on Excelsior games? Anyone do it last year?

It was fun, but the competition was subpar at best.

Suffolk teams tend to be very good with most YJ players. Nassau teams decent with a good mix between clubs. Upstate teams tend not to send their best players so lots of very uneven games.

Heard there was a smaller than expected YJ and FLG turnout for Suffolk. Did they go with one team or two?

Surprised to hear that as apparently it’s run by YJ and FLG.

Non-LI parent here, is it true LI 8th graders can play for their High School? Is this typical or just superstars or places where depth is an issue?
Is this what the 8th graders mostly do in Spring?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

You can take out Alliance Cal and HHH Nationals from the list. Jesters and YJ A both belong in top-10 as they are, but i expect Jesters to dip down into back top-10.

Yes, because if a team isn't from Long Island or Maryland, they must not be any good.

No team on Long Island has a starting lineup that is even close to the quality of Alliance National. Are they deeper? probably, but if Alliance only plays its starters, they would win many more than they would lose against any of the top LI teams.

And before someone says that YJ beat Alliance 3-2 at MidAtlantic last summer, about half of Alliance's team from last summer got cut from this summer's team.

Alliance Dad has entered the chat!!.....absolutely wild comments above

One thing we can all agree on is that YJA and Jesters are the class of Long Island and would put them up against any team in the country.

Does anyone know FLG's summer schedule? Are they playing in any top tourneys?

lax by sea, LLL, genesis, MD cup

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Non-LI parent here, is it true LI 8th graders can play for their High School? Is this typical or just superstars or places where depth is an issue?
Is this what the 8th graders mostly do in Spring?

Most public school kids who play on an A level club team play with their high school team. A majority on JV and a few stars on varsity. Will obviously depends on the quality of program. There are even some 7th grades who will play

A few school districts have rules against 8th graders playing, but that is truly the exception.

Also, unlike most other states, there are no rules in place to prevent a kid from playing or practicing with their club team on Sundays and playing with their school team during the week. (I think this is insane, but it is what it is. Luckily our high school coach does not permit it, but many/most do).

Has anyone seen the schedule for the LI Elite Spring league? What a complete joke. Not even sure I understand the point. YJA will probably win every game by 15+ if they want to.

From a club perspective, why on earth would you want your 28 B team playing your 27A team?

Whaaaaaat? The league is amazing. Jealous h8teraid!

I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could at least play Jester, Liberty and Tradition. heck, even Legacy is better than the teams they are playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

We were told that no age group will have more than two teams this year and lower ages could potentially only have one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could at least play Jester, Liberty and Tradition. heck, even Legacy is better than the teams they are playing.

What clubs are playing the spring league this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could at least play Jester, Liberty and Tradition. heck, even Legacy is better than the teams they are playing.

What clubs are playing the spring league this year?

YJ Spring League

YJA
YJB
Igloo
YJ Carrante (2028 B)

NGLL
Jesters
Tradition
Legacy
LIberty
Lax On
Empire

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

Untrue...My older daughter (not YJ) played last year and got the same amount of time as everyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

Asked anyone who played last summer. Most coaches have 14-15 field players in their roation, unless it is a blowout. Some coaches will give bench players a few minutes per game, but rarely much more. While watching the 26s last year, Maryland was the only team I saw that gave decent PT to the entire roster.

Do you really think a YJ coach will play someone from a competitive team over someone from his/her program?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

Was true on top team last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could at least play Jester, Liberty and Tradition. heck, even Legacy is better than the teams they are playing.

What clubs are playing the spring league this year?

YJ Spring League

YJA
YJB
Igloo
YJ Carrante (2028 B)

NGLL
Jesters
Tradition
Legacy
LIberty
Lax On
Empire

Why aren't YJ teams doing NGLL?
Answer: Carol doesn't own it and can't profit over it.

Single handily destroys events.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

Untrue...My older daughter (not YJ) played last year and got the same amount of time as everyone else.

One of the very few non YJ players to probably make it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could at least play Jester, Liberty and Tradition. heck, even Legacy is better than the teams they are playing.

What clubs are playing the spring league this year?

YJ Spring League

YJA
YJB
Igloo
YJ Carrante (2028 B)

NGLL
Jesters
Tradition
Legacy
LIberty
Lax On
Empire

Why aren't YJ teams doing NGLL?
Answer: Carol doesn't own it and can't profit over it.

Single handily destroys events.

what is NGLL?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

Was true on top team last year.

Was definitely true on top 24 and 26 teams last year for field players. Goalies shared time. Core rotation for 26 Black was 5 middies, 4 D and 5 attack. rest of roster got minimal minutes in first half (though still played) of competitive games and then more minutes in [Censored] time. Very little play for bench players in playoff games.

To be fair, there was a Jesters girl who played over a YJ girl

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

Untrue...My older daughter (not YJ) played last year and got the same amount of time as everyone else.

One of the very few non YJ players to probably make it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could at least play Jester, Liberty and Tradition. heck, even Legacy is better than the teams they are playing.

What clubs are playing the spring league this year?

YJ Spring League

YJA
YJB
Igloo
YJ Carrante (2028 B)

NGLL
Jesters
Tradition
Legacy
LIberty
Lax On
Empire

Why aren't YJ teams doing NGLL?
Answer: Carol doesn't own it and can't profit over it.

Single handily destroys events.

what is NGLL?

National Girls Lacrosse League. Its a series of local league who has the national championship to coincide with final four.

Typically one of the top fields of any tourneys. A bracket will likely feature

MD Champ (likely Heros or M&D)
Eagle Stix
MadSkillz
PA Champ (probably NXT)
Upstate NY Champ (probably Aces)

Assuming Jesters wins Long Island, you will have 5 of top 7 games in the country.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

American Select (or All American for that matter) are not showcases and don't claim to be. Why shouldn't best players play? No different than any high-level club event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

Untrue...My older daughter (not YJ) played last year and got the same amount of time as everyone else.

One of the very few non YJ players to probably make it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could at least play Jester, Liberty and Tradition. heck, even Legacy is better than the teams they are playing.

What clubs are playing the spring league this year?

YJ Spring League

YJA
YJB
Igloo
YJ Carrante (2028 B)

NGLL
Jesters
Tradition
Legacy
LIberty
Lax On
Empire

Why aren't YJ teams doing NGLL?
Answer: Carol doesn't own it and can't profit over it.

Single handily destroys events.

what is NGLL?

National Girls Lacrosse League. Its a series of local league who has the national championship to coincide with final four.

Typically one of the top fields of any tourneys. A bracket will likely feature

MD Champ (likely Heros or M&D)
Eagle Stix
MadSkillz
PA Champ (probably NXT)
Upstate NY Champ (probably Aces)

Assuming Jesters wins Long Island, you will have 5 of top 7 games in the country.

aside from Jesters those teams aren't very strong (from LI)

Clearly, you missed the point. I know it might come as a shock, but there are plenty of talented players who don't play for YJ! And those players might not see a field at American Select because it is tied so closely to YJ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

Untrue...My older daughter (not YJ) played last year and got the same amount of time as everyone else.

One of the very few non YJ players to probably make it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t have a high demand of teams signing up. They have to merge years and brackets. Sort of waste of time. PAL would be better.

Or just playing NGLL where they could at least play Jester, Liberty and Tradition. heck, even Legacy is better than the teams they are playing.

What clubs are playing the spring league this year?

YJ Spring League

YJA
YJB
Igloo
YJ Carrante (2028 B)

NGLL
Jesters
Tradition
Legacy
LIberty
Lax On
Empire

Why aren't YJ teams doing NGLL?
Answer: Carol doesn't own it and can't profit over it.

Single handily destroys events.

what is NGLL?

National Girls Lacrosse League. Its a series of local league who has the national championship to coincide with final four.

Typically one of the top fields of any tourneys. A bracket will likely feature

MD Champ (likely Heros or M&D)
Eagle Stix
MadSkillz
PA Champ (probably NXT)
Upstate NY Champ (probably Aces)

Assuming Jesters wins Long Island, you will have 5 of top 7 games in the country.

Aces isn’t doing it. Too many players that will be tied up with sectionals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly, you missed the point. I know it might come as a shock, but there are plenty of talented players who don't play for YJ! And those players might not see a field at American Select because it is tied so closely to YJ.

Are all the AS teams coached by YJ coaches only?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly, you missed the point. I know it might come as a shock, but there are plenty of talented players who don't play for YJ! And those players might not see a field at American Select because it is tied so closely to YJ.

Are all the AS teams coached by YJ coaches only?

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly, you missed the point. I know it might come as a shock, but there are plenty of talented players who don't play for YJ! And those players might not see a field at American Select because it is tied so closely to YJ.

Are all the AS teams coached by YJ coaches only?

Yes

Just in case anyone had any ill conceived notion it wasn't a wee bit biased

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

American Select (or All American for that matter) are not showcases and don't claim to be. Why shouldn't best players play? No different than any high-level club event.

THIS!! Teams play to win. The playing time you get is the playing time you get.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

American Select (or All American for that matter) are not showcases and don't claim to be. Why shouldn't best players play? No different than any high-level club event.

THIS!! Teams play to win. The playing time you get is the playing time you get.

Completely agree. However, I would be upset if my daughter never even got a chance to impress coaches. If she isn't good enough, so be it. However, to never get a chance in something else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

American Select (or All American for that matter) are not showcases and don't claim to be. Why shouldn't best players play? No different than any high-level club event.

THIS!! Teams play to win. The playing time you get is the playing time you get.

Completely agree. However, I would be upset if my daughter never even got a chance to impress coaches. If she isn't good enough, so be it. However, to never get a chance in something else.

If she isn't good enough, don't put her on the team! How can you charge 700 for a team that is supposedly made up of ALL elite players (so some parity is assumed) and have girls who rarely get to play? If this is the case, why would anyone pay this much money knowing their daughter might not get significant playing time? Especially at this age when coaches aren't watching anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

American Select (or All American for that matter) are not showcases and don't claim to be. Why shouldn't best players play? No different than any high-level club event.

THIS!! Teams play to win. The playing time you get is the playing time you get.

Completely agree. However, I would be upset if my daughter never even got a chance to impress coaches. If she isn't good enough, so be it. However, to never get a chance in something else.

If she isn't good enough, don't put her on the team! How can you charge 700 for a team that is supposedly made up of ALL elite players (so some parity is assumed) and have girls who rarely get to play? If this is the case, why would anyone pay this much money knowing their daughter might not get significant playing time? Especially at this age when coaches aren't watching anymore.

Well, this is a fundamental problem when the people picking the team are different than the people coaching the team.

However, I have no problem with this as as long as girls are given a shot. This is actually good prep for future showcases/teams where girls need to impress a coach they may not know well or are a backup and get limited reps which they need to maximize.

In terms of $$, this is where girls needs to be honest with themselves. Would you join a club team where you are one of the bottom players on the roster? Same applies here. If a girl thinks she is at the bottom of the roster, she should only accept the spot knowing she may not play much.

The positive thing about the LI team is that they are talented enough that there should be a couple of blowouts so bench players can get more PT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Don't do it if you don't already play for YJ. You will never see the field no matter how good you are.

Hope that is not true

American Select (or All American for that matter) are not showcases and don't claim to be. Why shouldn't best players play? No different than any high-level club event.

THIS!! Teams play to win. The playing time you get is the playing time you get.

Completely agree. However, I would be upset if my daughter never even got a chance to impress coaches. If she isn't good enough, so be it. However, to never get a chance in something else.

If she isn't good enough, don't put her on the team! How can you charge 700 for a team that is supposedly made up of ALL elite players (so some parity is assumed) and have girls who rarely get to play? If this is the case, why would anyone pay this much money knowing their daughter might not get significant playing time? Especially at this age when coaches aren't watching anymore.

If you want guaranteed playing time, sign up for a showcase instead. There are plentry of those around.

What I am gleaning from this thread is that if your kid plays for a club other than YJ and makes the top team, she must be a student. However, it does not guarantee she will play much. Not very encouraging.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I am gleaning from this thread is that if your kid plays for a club other than YJ and makes the top team, she must be a student. However, it does not guarantee she will play much. Not very encouraging.

Yup. To be fair, the All American team is equally biased (if not more) to Jesters players. Its the reality of these all star events.

That being said, when the girls get older, these events have very little impact in recruiting. Girls who play for any of the top 4 LI clubs will have no problem getting exposure in front of the top coaches. Playing with your club, invite-only showcases, prospect days will all much bigger role in getting exposure.

These events are really only helpful for kids from non-core areas (think west coast and midwest) who don't play on top teams and have trouble getting exposure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I am gleaning from this thread is that if your kid plays for a club other than YJ and makes the top team, she must be a student. However, it does not guarantee she will play much. Not very encouraging.

*student not student

Yup. To be fair, the All American team is equally biased (if not more) to Jesters players. Its the reality of these all star events.

That being said, when the girls get older, these events have very little impact in recruiting. Girls who play for any of the top 4 LI clubs will have no problem getting exposure in front of the top coaches. Playing with your club, invite-only showcases, prospect days will all much bigger role in getting exposure.

These events are really only helpful for kids from non-core areas (think west coast and midwest) who don't play on top teams and have trouble getting exposure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I am gleaning from this thread is that if your kid plays for a club other than YJ and makes the top team, she must be a student. However, it does not guarantee she will play much. Not very encouraging.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Coaches have already been release, just not assigned to teams.

Looks like 3 teams for 25,27,28 and 4 teams for 26s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I am gleaning from this thread is that if your kid plays for a club other than YJ and makes the top team, she must be a student. However, it does not guarantee she will play much. Not very encouraging.

*student not student

Yup. To be fair, the All American team is equally biased (if not more) to Jesters players. Its the reality of these all star events.

That being said, when the girls get older, these events have very little impact in recruiting. Girls who play for any of the top 4 LI clubs will have no problem getting exposure in front of the top coaches. Playing with your club, invite-only showcases, prospect days will all much bigger role in getting exposure.

These events are really only helpful for kids from non-core areas (think west coast and midwest) who don't play on top teams and have trouble getting exposure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I am gleaning from this thread is that if your kid plays for a club other than YJ and makes the top team, she must be a student. However, it does not guarantee she will play much. Not very encouraging.

Much of all american for 25/26 group was YJ last year, so not biased.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I am gleaning from this thread is that if your kid plays for a club other than YJ and makes the top team, she must be a student. However, it does not guarantee she will play much. Not very encouraging.

*student not student

Yup. To be fair, the All American team is equally biased (if not more) to Jesters players. Its the reality of these all star events.

That being said, when the girls get older, these events have very little impact in recruiting. Girls who play for any of the top 4 LI clubs will have no problem getting exposure in front of the top coaches. Playing with your club, invite-only showcases, prospect days will all much bigger role in getting exposure.

These events are really only helpful for kids from non-core areas (think west coast and midwest) who don't play on top teams and have trouble getting exposure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I am gleaning from this thread is that if your kid plays for a club other than YJ and makes the top team, she must be a student. However, it does not guarantee she will play much. Not very encouraging.

Much of all american for 25/26 group was YJ last year, so not biased.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AS had big turnout for 27’s today. Looks like they could have 3 teams. Does anyone know who will be coaching these teams?

Coaches have already been release, just not assigned to teams.

Looks like 3 teams for 25,27,28 and 4 teams for 26s.

Save your money beyond the top team...not worth the $700 and Carol will be ok without it

invites out-- lets whining begin.

For reference

Black - A Team
Grey - B Team
Red -- C Team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

invites out-- lets whining begin.

For reference

Black - A Team
Grey - B Team
Red -- C Team

Incorrect
Red B
Grey C

Curious if any non YJ made Black

My daughter made red. Red is B. She is non YJ. Also curious if any non YJ made black.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious if any non YJ made Black

2 from FLG at the minimum

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter made red. Red is B. She is non YJ. Also curious if any non YJ made black.

Is she actually going to do it? No judgement at all. Just curious. Heard through the grapevine lots of girls who didn't make top team won't go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter made red. Red is B. She is non YJ. Also curious if any non YJ made black.

Is she actually going to do it? No judgement at all. Just curious. Heard through the grapevine lots of girls who didn't make top team won't go.

She is going to do it with some other friends from her club who made it.

Actually, grey is b. Spoke to American select for clarification.

Look at previous years. Don’t get caught up. Lots of girls on red and grey rosters in the past have since committed to play D1. And by the looks of it, red and grey seem very equal. Black is the best YJ girls and one or two others. The tryout was obvious. It was intentionally set up with YJ girls - and then the others, who were barely watched. But maybe at this age, it’s about the experience. These girls have a lot of playing in front of them and lots will change in hs.

Multiple kids from other clubs made black

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter made red. Red is B. She is non YJ. Also curious if any non YJ made black.

Is she actually going to do it? No judgement at all. Just curious. Heard through the grapevine lots of girls who didn't make top team won't go.

She is going to do it with some other friends from her club who made it.

Heard there are a bunch of YJB and Legacy girls on the Red team.

Why in the website for American Select the Rosters are listed as Black, Red & Grey. Meaning if Grey was the B Team wouldn’t they be 2nd in the list of rosters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at previous years. Don’t get caught up. Lots of girls on red and grey rosters in the past have since committed to play D1. And by the looks of it, red and grey seem very equal. Black is the best YJ girls and one or two others. The tryout was obvious. It was intentionally set up with YJ girls - and then the others, who were barely watched. But maybe at this age, it’s about the experience. These girls have a lot of playing in front of them and lots will change in hs.

Great post - and very accurate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter made red. Red is B. She is non YJ. Also curious if any non YJ made black.

Is she actually going to do it? No judgement at all. Just curious. Heard through the grapevine lots of girls who didn't make top team won't go.

She is going to do it with some other friends from her club who made it.

Heard there are a bunch of YJB and Legacy girls on the Red team.

what's the Legacy connection to YJ....that team at this age is not very strong - I think in the 50's last time I looked at USCL rankings

Look at years past an you will see. Grey is not C.

This debate over Red and Grey B vs C team is really much ado about nothing.

Both teams will have many declined invites so American Select will go to the alternate list and fill them. (They won't promote girls from one team to another). As a result, there will be lots of alternates on both squads.

Looking at current sign ups, it looks like only 12 girls have signed up for Red and 5 for Grey so it looks like almost half of red and a majority of Grey will eventually be alternates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at years past an you will see. Grey is not C.

Last year Red and Black played in the A groups at American Select (3 teams to playoffs) and Grey teams played in B groups (1 team)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This debate over Red and Grey B vs C team is really much ado about nothing.

Both teams will have many declined invites so American Select will go to the alternate list and fill them. (They won't promote girls from one team to another). As a result, there will be lots of alternates on both squads.

Looking at current sign ups, it looks like only 12 girls have signed up for Red and 5 for Grey so it looks like almost half of red and a majority of Grey will eventually be alternates.

Where can you see current signups?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Actually, grey is b. Spoke to American select for clarification.

Grey is not the B the team. Red is always the B team. If they told you that they are misleading you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at previous years. Don’t get caught up. Lots of girls on red and grey rosters in the past have since committed to play D1. And by the looks of it, red and grey seem very equal. Black is the best YJ girls and one or two others. The tryout was obvious. It was intentionally set up with YJ girls - and then the others, who were barely watched. But maybe at this age, it’s about the experience. These girls have a lot of playing in front of them and lots will change in hs.

This is very accurate and last years grey/c team for the 2024’s almost all those girls are committed to D1 schools. They had the same amount of exposure as all the other girls at the event. As far as 2027’s there will not be one college coach watching these games so if that is your end game and to be on a higher team re think it. This is a glorified tournament at this age level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at years past an you will see. Grey is not C.

This statement is completely false. The Red team was the B team and the Black team was the A for the 2024 girls. Most the red team was made up of YJ A and B players and Legacy A players.

My kid made the brown team. Is that good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at previous years. Don’t get caught up. Lots of girls on red and grey rosters in the past have since committed to play D1. And by the looks of it, red and grey seem very equal. Black is the best YJ girls and one or two others. The tryout was obvious. It was intentionally set up with YJ girls - and then the others, who were barely watched. But maybe at this age, it’s about the experience. These girls have a lot of playing in front of them and lots will change in hs.

This is very accurate and last years grey/c team for the 2024’s almost all those girls are committed to D1 schools. They had the same amount of exposure as all the other girls at the event. As far as 2027’s there will not be one college coach watching these games so if that is your end game and to be on a higher team re think it. This is a glorified tournament at this age level.

It's a glorified tournament at every age level. Those kids who committed were incredibly talented. I have yet to see a single kid get an offer because she was noticed at American Select / Under Armour. Its pretty much just an expensive beach trip to Delaware.

Most kids have a ton of fun at the tourney and if you can afford it, by all means. However, even as you get to recruiting age, you are much better off spending money on prospect days, multi-school camps than dropping 2 grand for this event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at previous years. Don’t get caught up. Lots of girls on red and grey rosters in the past have since committed to play D1. And by the looks of it, red and grey seem very equal. Black is the best YJ girls and one or two others. The tryout was obvious. It was intentionally set up with YJ girls - and then the others, who were barely watched. But maybe at this age, it’s about the experience. These girls have a lot of playing in front of them and lots will change in hs.

This is very accurate and last years grey/c team for the 2024’s almost all those girls are committed to D1 schools. They had the same amount of exposure as all the other girls at the event. As far as 2027’s there will not be one college coach watching these games so if that is your end game and to be on a higher team re think it. This is a glorified tournament at this age level.

It's a glorified tournament at every age level. Those kids who committed were incredibly talented. I have yet to see a single kid get an offer because she was noticed at American Select / Under Armour. Its pretty much just an expensive beach trip to Delaware.

Most kids have a ton of fun at the tourney and if you can afford it, by all means. However, even as you get to recruiting age, you are much better off spending money on prospect days, multi-school camps than dropping 2 grand for this event.

VERY TRUE !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at previous years. Don’t get caught up. Lots of girls on red and grey rosters in the past have since committed to play D1. And by the looks of it, red and grey seem very equal. Black is the best YJ girls and one or two others. The tryout was obvious. It was intentionally set up with YJ girls - and then the others, who were barely watched. But maybe at this age, it’s about the experience. These girls have a lot of playing in front of them and lots will change in hs.

This is very accurate and last years grey/c team for the 2024’s almost all those girls are committed to D1 schools. They had the same amount of exposure as all the other girls at the event. As far as 2027’s there will not be one college coach watching these games so if that is your end game and to be on a higher team re think it. This is a glorified tournament at this age level.

It's a glorified tournament at every age level. Those kids who committed were incredibly talented. I have yet to see a single kid get an offer because she was noticed at American Select / Under Armour. Its pretty much just an expensive beach trip to Delaware.

Most kids have a ton of fun at the tourney and if you can afford it, by all means. However, even as you get to recruiting age, you are much better off spending money on prospect days, multi-school camps than dropping 2 grand for this event.

VERY TRUE !

Well said. To add something else, which I believe has been mentioned before.

The big recruiting value for these all star events are for kids who are underexposed. If you play for any team ranked in the top 40 nationally, your kids will play dozens on games in front of every D1 program who matters. On the girls side, it is rare for a girl from Long Island to be underexposed. If you play one of the top 6 club -- YJ, Jesters, TG, Legacy, Liberty, Tradition and for 27s FLG -- you will get great exposure based on your normal tourney schedule.

As an example, last year for the 24s, the biggest crowd of coaches I saw at a pool play game was at a game in the bottom bracket between Ohio and Midwest, close to 40 coaches. Both teams apparently had a couple of top 50 players, but they aren't playing for clubs who play in the top brackets of the top tourneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at previous years. Don’t get caught up. Lots of girls on red and grey rosters in the past have since committed to play D1. And by the looks of it, red and grey seem very equal. Black is the best YJ girls and one or two others. The tryout was obvious. It was intentionally set up with YJ girls - and then the others, who were barely watched. But maybe at this age, it’s about the experience. These girls have a lot of playing in front of them and lots will change in hs.

Great post - and very accurate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter made red. Red is B. She is non YJ. Also curious if any non YJ made black.

Is she actually going to do it? No judgement at all. Just curious. Heard through the grapevine lots of girls who didn't make top team won't go.

She is going to do it with some other friends from her club who made it.

Heard there are a bunch of YJB and Legacy girls on the Red team.

what's the Legacy connection to YJ....that team at this age is not very strong - I think in the 50's last time I looked at USCL rankings

YJ partners with 1 or 2 clubs/directors from each region for AS. These clubs run tryouts, promote the event, provide coaches, "encourage" their players to attend, etc. I assume there is some financial incentive for the clubs, but I don't know for sure.

For LI YJ was never going to partner with TG, so I guess Legacy was next choice.

24 girls signed up for Long Island 27 Black.

Clearly, 2 of Carol's key players didn't make the team the first time. Would be quite upset if I was one of the other 22 on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24 girls signed up for Long Island 27 Black.

Clearly, 2 of Carol's key players didn't make the team the first time. Would be quite upset if I was one of the other 22 on the team.

How do you know this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24 girls signed up for Long Island 27 Black.

Clearly, 2 of Carol's key players didn't make the team the first time. Would be quite upset if I was one of the other 22 on the team.

How do you know this.

Know that there are 24 girls. The roster summery page. Invites were capped at 22 so any more were director adds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24 girls signed up for Long Island 27 Black.

Clearly, 2 of Carol's key players didn't make the team the first time. Would be quite upset if I was one of the other 22 on the team.

How do you know this.

Know that there are 24 girls. The roster summery page. Invites were capped at 22 so any more were director adds.

25 now.

26 girls now on the 2026 Black team.

Really wouldn't want to be a non-YJ player on those teams now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid made the brown team. Is that good?

My favorite post all year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at previous years. Don’t get caught up. Lots of girls on red and grey rosters in the past have since committed to play D1. And by the looks of it, red and grey seem very equal. Black is the best YJ girls and one or two others. The tryout was obvious. It was intentionally set up with YJ girls - and then the others, who were barely watched. But maybe at this age, it’s about the experience. These girls have a lot of playing in front of them and lots will change in hs.

Great post - and very accurate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter made red. Red is B. She is non YJ. Also curious if any non YJ made black.

Is she actually going to do it? No judgement at all. Just curious. Heard through the grapevine lots of girls who didn't make top team won't go.

She is going to do it with some other friends from her club who made it.

Heard there are a bunch of YJB and Legacy girls on the Red team.

what's the Legacy connection to YJ....that team at this age is not very strong - I think in the 50's last time I looked at USCL rankings

YJ partners with 1 or 2 clubs/directors from each region for AS. These clubs run tryouts, promote the event, provide coaches, "encourage" their players to attend, etc. I assume there is some financial incentive for the clubs, but I don't know for sure.

For LI YJ was never going to partner with TG, so I guess Legacy was next choice.

Why wouldn’t YJ partner with with TG?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at previous years. Don’t get caught up. Lots of girls on red and grey rosters in the past have since committed to play D1. And by the looks of it, red and grey seem very equal. Black is the best YJ girls and one or two others. The tryout was obvious. It was intentionally set up with YJ girls - and then the others, who were barely watched. But maybe at this age, it’s about the experience. These girls have a lot of playing in front of them and lots will change in hs.

Great post - and very accurate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter made red. Red is B. She is non YJ. Also curious if any non YJ made black.

Is she actually going to do it? No judgement at all. Just curious. Heard through the grapevine lots of girls who didn't make top team won't go.

She is going to do it with some other friends from her club who made it.

Heard there are a bunch of YJB and Legacy girls on the Red team.

what's the Legacy connection to YJ....that team at this age is not very strong - I think in the 50's last time I looked at USCL rankings

YJ partners with 1 or 2 clubs/directors from each region for AS. These clubs run tryouts, promote the event, provide coaches, "encourage" their players to attend, etc. I assume there is some financial incentive for the clubs, but I don't know for sure.

For LI YJ was never going to partner with TG, so I guess Legacy was next choice.

Why wouldn’t YJ partner with with TG?

Plenty of threads about that on this board. Safe to say it would be the LAST club on the island YJ would consider partnering with.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at previous years. Don’t get caught up. Lots of girls on red and grey rosters in the past have since committed to play D1. And by the looks of it, red and grey seem very equal. Black is the best YJ girls and one or two others. The tryout was obvious. It was intentionally set up with YJ girls - and then the others, who were barely watched. But maybe at this age, it’s about the experience. These girls have a lot of playing in front of them and lots will change in hs.

Great post - and very accurate

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter made red. Red is B. She is non YJ. Also curious if any non YJ made black.

Is she actually going to do it? No judgement at all. Just curious. Heard through the grapevine lots of girls who didn't make top team won't go.

She is going to do it with some other friends from her club who made it.

Heard there are a bunch of YJB and Legacy girls on the Red team.

what's the Legacy connection to YJ....that team at this age is not very strong - I think in the 50's last time I looked at USCL rankings

YJ partners with 1 or 2 clubs/directors from each region for AS. These clubs run tryouts, promote the event, provide coaches, "encourage" their players to attend, etc. I assume there is some financial incentive for the clubs, but I don't know for sure.

For LI YJ was never going to partner with TG, so I guess Legacy was next choice.

Why wouldn’t YJ partner with with TG?

A story old as time

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24 girls signed up for Long Island 27 Black.

Clearly, 2 of Carol's key players didn't make the team the first time. Would be quite upset if I was one of the other 22 on the team.

How do you know this.

Know that there are 24 girls. The roster summery page. Invites were capped at 22 so any more were director adds.

25 now.

26 girls now on the 2026 Black team.

Really wouldn't want to be a non-YJ player on those teams now.

Up to 26 now. Come on Carol, let's go for 30.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24 girls signed up for Long Island 27 Black.

Clearly, 2 of Carol's key players didn't make the team the first time. Would be quite upset if I was one of the other 22 on the team.

How do you know this.

Know that there are 24 girls. The roster summery page. Invites were capped at 22 so any more were director adds.

25 now.

26 girls now on the 2026 Black team.

Really wouldn't want to be a non-YJ player on those teams now.

Up to 26 now. Come on Carol, let's go for 30.

where are you seeing the number of rostered kids?

Please sure how to find these roster numbers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24 girls signed up for Long Island 27 Black.

Clearly, 2 of Carol's key players didn't make the team the first time. Would be quite upset if I was one of the other 22 on the team.

How do you know this.

Know that there are 24 girls. The roster summery page. Invites were capped at 22 so any more were director adds.

25 now.

26 girls now on the 2026 Black team.

Really wouldn't want to be a non-YJ player on those teams now.

Up to 26 now. Come on Carol, let's go for 30.

where are you seeing the number of rostered kids?

Instead of fear mongering, offer up some proof, drop a link. Please and thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24 girls signed up for Long Island 27 Black.

Clearly, 2 of Carol's key players didn't make the team the first time. Would be quite upset if I was one of the other 22 on the team.

How do you know this.

Know that there are 24 girls. The roster summery page. Invites were capped at 22 so any more were director adds.

25 now.

26 girls now on the 2026 Black team.

Really wouldn't want to be a non-YJ player on those teams now.

Up to 26 now. Come on Carol, let's go for 30.

where are you seeing the number of rostered kids?

Instead of fear mongering, offer up some proof, drop a link. Please and thank you.

BOTC doesn't allow links. However its on the TSI site used to register for the event.

How was turnout for Nassau Excelsior tryouts?

What were the numbers like at Excelsior tryouts today?

Noticing a large number of middle schoolers playing varsity lacrosse. Is this a new trend? It was not like this when I was growing up.

A good number of schools just don’t have the turnout of players or quality players that were prevalent in years past.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A good number of schools just don’t have the turnout of players or quality players that were prevalent in years past.

It's pretty much always been the case once you get past the top 10-12 schools in Suffolk county. Heck, there are some schools where JV teams are half 7th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A good number of schools just don’t have the turnout of players or quality players that were prevalent in years past.

Yes, it’s not a fun sport for most girls. The majority of teams revolve around two or three girls. The rest are told not to shoot, and to pass the ball immediately after (if) they catch it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A good number of schools just don’t have the turnout of players or quality players that were prevalent in years past.

Yes, it’s not a fun sport for most girls. The majority of teams revolve around two or three girls. The rest are told not to shoot, and to pass the ball immediately after (if) they catch it.

Curious is these middle schoolers are getting any playing time...

Many starting and playing significant roles

27's are a hard working and talented class!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

27's are a hard working and talented class!

Hard working without a doubt. Talented, time will tell on that.

For TG, Legacy and YJ, at least, their 27s are nowhere close to where their 26s and 25s were at the same age group. Jesters are pretty similar.

Big difference in this class though is FLG, which has spread the talent around a bit more, giving more opportunities to play on A teams, but lowered the overall quality of these top teams.

I agree with the first statement as for the 27's are a hard working and talented class.

As for the second comment I don't agree with there are 26 and 25 players that are not as god as some of the 27 players that have been moved up, the 27 Class is so large and because of the explosion of Women's/Girls Lax over the last few years that first time players are coming out of the woodwork. You have Clubs now that have three and four teams per age group, YJ alone has at least 5 Teams between Suffolk and Nassau County there must be at least 100-120 girls and Clubs like FLG, TG, Liberty, Tradition, and the Jesters are not far behind.

Most of the A and B Teams are built around two or three Offensive players a few strong defenders and a decent goalie everyone else is a fill in.

In regards to 28's playing JV and 27's playing JV and Varsity it all depends on the HS Coach. There are HS such as Ward Melville who does not allow 7th and 8th to play up while others like Northport allow playing up even at the Varsity level. Playing time is also in the hands of the JV and Varsity Coaches. From what I have seen this season there are of non-HS age girls getting allot of playing time. Mostly because their Lacrosse IQ seems high, they know when to pass to move the ball around while looking for the open player and when to go to goal. They can catch, pass and shoot with either hand. Sometimes its not how many goals you can score but how you can be a team player and make the other players on your team better. These players are making an impact on and off the field with their teams. These girls are the 28 and 27 Club players, there are others who are playing that are walk-ons and picking up a stick for the first time.

There are Directors and Coaches of Clubs that have dedicated themselves to training these players both on and off the field all year round. Most of these players may not be in the top of the 27 class but they play hard, know the game and are team players. There is not One player that can win the game by themselves.

Surprisingly, Ward Melville and Northport have some 8th graders on varsity. They probably don’t need them but they are on the roster. Not sure how much of an impact they will have though. Some coaches don’t have a choice however. There are many schools that need 8th graders to compete because their numbers are simply not there and these girls are making quite an impact.

Curious for those playing in NGLL today.

How strong a team are you sending? Did the girls who are playing varsity play?

The 2027 group

Jesters Black, Liberty Black and Tradition seem to be very strong and would not be surprised if some of the girls are playing for Varsity.

Legacy Blue a little behind the top 3

Empire and Laxon seems to be substituting allot. Laxon used three different goalies in each of the two games they played.

Which clubs are playing NGLL?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2027 group

Jesters Black, Liberty Black and Tradition seem to be very strong and would not be surprised if some of the girls are playing for Varsity.

Legacy Blue a little behind the top 3

Empire and Laxon seems to be substituting allot. Laxon used three different goalies in each of the two games they played.

Saw the results on tourney machine. Kinda surprised Legacy beat Liberty. Not knowing anything else, I would assume Liberty was down a few girls.

No yj, flg, tg?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No yj, flg, tg?

YJ has their own spring league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2027 group

Jesters Black, Liberty Black and Tradition seem to be very strong and would not be surprised if some of the girls are playing for Varsity.

Legacy Blue a little behind the top 3

Empire and Laxon seems to be substituting allot. Laxon used three different goalies in each of the two games they played.

Assuming Jesters wins, I'm curious if they would bring a full roster down to Nationals. I'd assume most of their girls on varsity would be busy will sectionals and not available.

Empire always in the mix! It’s lax season baby!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2027 group

Jesters Black, Liberty Black and Tradition seem to be very strong and would not be surprised if some of the girls are playing for Varsity.

Legacy Blue a little behind the top 3

Empire and Laxon seems to be substituting allot. Laxon used three different goalies in each of the two games they played.

Assuming Jesters wins, I'm curious if they would bring a full roster down to Nationals. I'd assume most of their girls on varsity would be busy will sectionals and not available.

Most of the Jesters girls playing varsity are on teams who won't likely make sectional finals. Can't say for sure but I would expect a strong team in NC for NGLL nationals, if they win.

Can someone please explain what the LILJ all long island games are? Was there a tryout for this event and if so when? Also, what does "wave one" mean? Assuming there will be a wave two tryout? Where can I find more information on this? Thank you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please explain what the LILJ all long island games are? Was there a tryout for this event and if so when? Also, what does "wave one" mean? Assuming there will be a wave two tryout? Where can I find more information on this? Thank you!

Its a cash grab from LILJ where you get a photo shoot and get to play in a game or two against your teammates.

It may be a cash grab, but they do a great job of covering HS lax games as well as promoting players on social media and the overwhelming majority are players that are not even affiliated with LILJ’s ownership. The athletes appear to enjoy playing in the games as well as being covered on their social media. They have fun and it’s a good departure from the stressful season of travel and HS.

How do players get selected? Is there a tryout?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do players get selected? Is there a tryout?

Participate in any of the LILJ camps/clinics or play for FLG. Or have participated in their events in years past.

That is an incorrect statement. Many of the players selected have never played in anything sponsored by FLG or LILJ. If your daughter is selected then you should decline her invitation if it’s not worth it in your esteemed opinion.

I guess it’s official. Jesters bought liberty.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is an incorrect statement. Many of the players selected have never played in anything sponsored by FLG or LILJ. If your daughter is selected then you should decline her invitation if it’s not worth it in your esteemed opinion.

this is just not correct...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please explain what the LILJ all long island games are? Was there a tryout for this event and if so when? Also, what does "wave one" mean? Assuming there will be a wave two tryout? Where can I find more information on this? Thank you!

giant cash grab and FOMO play....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 2027 group

Jesters Black, Liberty Black and Tradition seem to be very strong and would not be surprised if some of the girls are playing for Varsity.

Legacy Blue a little behind the top 3

Empire and Laxon seems to be substituting allot. Laxon used three different goalies in each of the two games they played.

Legacy behind the top 3? They beat Liberty and had a better GD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do players get selected? Is there a tryout?

Participate in any of the LILJ camps/clinics or play for FLG. Or have participated in their events in years past.

That's not entirely accurate. If you look at other years, there are very few FLG players selected for these LILJ games. The 27 group is well represented but that's it. And they don't seem to have more or less players selected than YJ and Jesters.

Has anyone's daughter played this game in the past or is this the first year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is an incorrect statement. Many of the players selected have never played in anything sponsored by FLG or LILJ. If your daughter is selected then you should decline her invitation if it’s not worth it in your esteemed opinion.

this is just not correct...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please explain what the LILJ all long island games are? Was there a tryout for this event and if so when? Also, what does "wave one" mean? Assuming there will be a wave two tryout? Where can I find more information on this? Thank you!

giant cash grab and FOMO play....

Not a cash grab or fomo play, it’s the best kids on LI.

You mean it’s the kids that pay to play in their league, camps, or clinics. There are many kids that don’t make that list and are much better players but are not on list bc they don’t pay to participate in those camps etc.
Absolutely not the best on the island. And everyone knows it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is an incorrect statement. Many of the players selected have never played in anything sponsored by FLG or LILJ. If your daughter is selected then you should decline her invitation if it’s not worth it in your esteemed opinion.

this is just not correct...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please explain what the LILJ all long island games are? Was there a tryout for this event and if so when? Also, what does "wave one" mean? Assuming there will be a wave two tryout? Where can I find more information on this? Thank you!

giant cash grab and FOMO play....

Not a cash grab or fomo play, it’s the best kids on LI.

hahahahah you're funny (and also insane if you think that is true)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is an incorrect statement. Many of the players selected have never played in anything sponsored by FLG or LILJ. If your daughter is selected then you should decline her invitation if it’s not worth it in your esteemed opinion.

this is just not correct...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please explain what the LILJ all long island games are? Was there a tryout for this event and if so when? Also, what does "wave one" mean? Assuming there will be a wave two tryout? Where can I find more information on this? Thank you!

giant cash grab and FOMO play....

Not a cash grab or fomo play, it’s the best kids on LI.

Not even close to the best on the Island. Have an open tryout if you want to represent something that way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is an incorrect statement. Many of the players selected have never played in anything sponsored by FLG or LILJ. If your daughter is selected then you should decline her invitation if it’s not worth it in your esteemed opinion.

this is just not correct...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please explain what the LILJ all long island games are? Was there a tryout for this event and if so when? Also, what does "wave one" mean? Assuming there will be a wave two tryout? Where can I find more information on this? Thank you!

giant cash grab and FOMO play....

Not a cash grab or fomo play, it’s the best kids on LI.

It’s the definition of pay to play lol It’s an expensive Instagram post and phot shoot

The selection does not represent the top 27’s but most of those selected are in the upper tier of talent for the 27’s and from various travel clubs. If those talented players believe that it’s a waste for them to play and be a part of the game etc., then they should just not participate. LILJ is doing a very good job and is getting better each year with its coverage of games and athletes, etc.. All the players enjoy being part of the coverage and hoopla.

LFTC brackets are out. It's clear that YJ runs this tourney.

YJA and YJB should cruise to the knockout round. Jeters and Liberty have a good shot at moving on. TG in a tougher bracket than YJA and will likely go 0-4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LFTC brackets are out. It's clear that YJ runs this tourney.

YJA and YJB should cruise to the knockout round. Jeters and Liberty have a good shot at moving on. TG in a tougher bracket than YJA and will likely go 0-4.

Heros
Jesters
MD United
TG
Primetime

same bracket

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LFTC brackets are out. It's clear that YJ runs this tourney.

YJA and YJB should cruise to the knockout round. Jeters and Liberty have a good shot at moving on. TG in a tougher bracket than YJA and will likely go 0-4.

Where does FLG fall in there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LFTC brackets are out. It's clear that YJ runs this tourney.

YJA and YJB should cruise to the knockout round. Jeters and Liberty have a good shot at moving on. TG in a tougher bracket than YJA and will likely go 0-4.

Where are you seeing the brackets?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LFTC brackets are out. It's clear that YJ runs this tourney.

YJA and YJB should cruise to the knockout round. Jeters and Liberty have a good shot at moving on. TG in a tougher bracket than YJA and will likely go 0-4.

Where does FLG fall in there?

they aren't in the tourney. they are playing Live Love Lax and MD Cup though which is better competition than they have had in the past.

Can someone post all the brackets?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You mean it’s the kids that pay to play in their league, camps, or clinics. There are many kids that don’t make that list and are much better players but are not on list bc they don’t pay to participate in those camps etc.
Absolutely not the best on the island. And everyone knows it.

Of those selected for the first wave about 90% of them are playing varsity lacrosse. How about you pit those that are on the first wave list against a list of kids that you think are so much better and have them play one another. Knowing most of the kids on that list you will most likely not like the outcome of that game. Have a wonderful season and hopefully your bitterness about your daughter not making the so called "money grab" doesnt make you [Censored] hurt.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LFTC brackets are out. It's clear that YJ runs this tourney.

YJA and YJB should cruise to the knockout round. Jeters and Liberty have a good shot at moving on. TG in a tougher bracket than YJA and will likely go 0-4.

YJB will not cruise in their bracket

Of those selected for the first wave about 90% of them are playing varsity lacrosse. How about you pit those that are on the first wave list against a list of kids that you think are so much better and have them play one another. Knowing most of the kids on that list you will most likely not like the outcome of that game. Have a wonderful season and hopefully your bitterness about your daughter not making the so called "money grab" doesnt make you [Censored] hurt.

If it’s the best on the island why not have open try outs. Instead you have to pay to play in their camps clinics or club as a team in their league. PAY TO PLAY.

Why does YJ move their try out dates earlier this year? And separate dates for Suffolk and Nassau? Anyone knows why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LFTC brackets are out. It's clear that YJ runs this tourney.

YJA and YJB should cruise to the knockout round. Jeters and Liberty have a good shot at moving on. TG in a tougher bracket than YJA and will likely go 0-4.

YJB will not cruise in their bracket

Two teams will likely make playoffs in that bracket, meaning they need to go 3-1.

They play Integrity, SJ Select, HHH and Sound. Who beats them once, let alone twice?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of those selected for the first wave about 90% of them are playing varsity lacrosse. How about you pit those that are on the first wave list against a list of kids that you think are so much better and have them play one another. Knowing most of the kids on that list you will most likely not like the outcome of that game. Have a wonderful season and hopefully your bitterness about your daughter not making the so called "money grab" doesnt make you [Censored] hurt.

If it’s the best on the island why not have open try outs. Instead you have to pay to play in their camps clinics or club as a team in their league. PAY TO PLAY.

American Select is an open tryout. There are many events with open tryouts. Look at those rosters and you will see many of the same names. There are however some girls not on the list that probably deserve to be. No system is perfect.

This board has been slow late, so adding a successful thread from the MD board

Summer team rankings by position

Total TeamRankings
1. YJA
2. Jesters
3. FLG

Goalkeeper

1. YJA
2. FLG
3. TG

Defense

1. Jesters
2. TG
3. YJA

Midfield
1. FLG
2. Jester
3. YJA

Attack
1. YJA
2. Jesters
3. FLG

Bench
1. Jesters
2. YJA
3. Tradition

Coaching
1. Jesters
2. FLG
3. Tradition

Way to weighted toward jesters all around. Tradition as a town team doesn’t have depth as you think. YJA by a decent stretch on defense. Look at America select black roster. All those girls are varsity starters at bigger programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Way to weighted toward jesters all around. Tradition as a town team doesn’t have depth as you think. YJA by a decent stretch on defense. Look at America select black roster. All those girls are varsity starters at bigger programs.

Hmmm. I’d actually argue that legacy defense is as good if not better than the ones mentioned except jesters who is clearly the best with their disciplined zone. Folks will laugh at that since this board loves YJ.

The fact was American select teams is a criteria shows that that folks either don’t watch YJ or just drink the koolaid. they have some big strong girls but they really don’t move well and get exposed by good teams who know how to isolate them. Can’t count number of times they have been bailed out by their goalie

Honestly if YJ has a roster which better geared for some. Surprised they don’t play it more

The one thing exception is the shorter blonde girl who I would admit is one of the best defender at this age group

American select is a joke

Good one! Agree on team rankings, goal keeper and coaching

Defense
1. YJA
2. Jesters
3. FLG

Midfield
1. YJA
2. Tradition
3. Jesters

Attack
1. FLG
2. YJA
3. Jesters

Bench
1. YJA
2. Jesters
3. Tradition

Athletically no one can compete with YJ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Athletically no one can compete with YJ.

Have you seen FLG play? I'd agree that YJ is a better team, but FLG's athleticism especially at midfield and attack is clearly top on the island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Athletically no one can compete with YJ.

Have you seen FLG play? I'd agree that YJ is a better team, but FLG's athleticism especially at midfield and attack is clearly top on the island.

Don’t forget the coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Athletically no one can compete with YJ.

Have you seen FLG play? I'd agree that YJ is a better team, but FLG's athleticism especially at midfield and attack is clearly top on the island.

Don’t forget the coaching.

The 27 age group in general has some good coaches.

Top on the island? I don't know about that. I've watched both teams play, against each other and against other teams. YJ is bigger, stronger and faster than FLG at every position except maybe attack. YJ has more athletes top to bottom than any team I've seen. Agree on the coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Athletically no one can compete with YJ.

Have you seen FLG play? I'd agree that YJ is a better team, but FLG's athleticism especially at midfield and attack is clearly top on the island.

Don’t forget the coaching.

The 27 age group in general has some good coaches.

Agreed. Ironically, the best team probably has the worst coach of all the "big" teams

Agreed. YJA is the deepest and most athletic overall team. I would say that they’re even with FLG at attack and with the middies with a slight edge at defense and goalie. Definitely deeper and better bench.

June 10 the island will know who’s better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

June 10 the island will know who’s better.

Which tourney is June 10?

They should have been playing each other at queen of the island

This is becoming like pro wrestling

Queen of the Island lol Joke tourney

They play in first game of live love lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should have been playing each other at queen of the island

Why? Both FLG and YJ will have multiple starters out due to high school conflict.

Love BOTC. Can go on any age group and it’s the same arguments throughout.

Any Queen of the island predictions for this 27 group?

Who cares. Best 2 teams on LI are not playing in it. Jesters and YJA.

And no Empire. Not a real tournament.

I guess the other teams should just drop out because it’s obviously not worth their time playing without YJA and Jesters 🙄

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any Queen of the island predictions for this 27 group?

FLG probably wins, but they won't have a couple of their top players due to high school. Not even really sure why to have a 27 division at this event, other than the obvious ($$$)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any Queen of the island predictions for this 27 group?

FLG probably wins, but they won't have a couple of their top players due to high school. Not even really sure why to have a 27 division at this event, other than the obvious ($$$)

What high schools their top players at?

Connetquot #29

Empire lol, joke team

What programs are liking their 2027 experience ? We are not trusting the jesters merger. The pro of where we are is distance but willing to drive to avoid the merger. Would love honest advice on the matter

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What programs are liking their 2027 experience ? We are not trusting the jesters merger. The pro of where we are is distance but willing to drive to avoid the merger. Would love honest advice on the matter

you've come to the very wrong place for honest answers....talk to parents that you know who have kids at other clubs and you'll get the honest answer you are looking for. There is no perfect club....they ALL have their pros/cons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire lol, joke team

That’s a disgusting comment. Not every player, parent or team is striving to be a top D1 recruit or play in the PLL. There are players out there who have a serious passion for the game and have the most amazing travel experiences with a B or C team. Comment is unnecessary and I guarantee that team couldn’t care less that a NOBODY thinks they’re a joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire lol, joke team

That’s a disgusting comment. Not every player, parent or team is striving to be a top D1 recruit or play in the PLL. There are players out there who have a serious passion for the game and have the most amazing travel experiences with a B or C team. Comment is unnecessary and I guarantee that team couldn’t care less that a NOBODY thinks they’re a joke.

Agree! And, that NOBODIES kid is probably going to ride the bench all 4 years in college because they HAD to have the kid play D1! That’s a joke!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire lol, joke team

That’s a disgusting comment. Not every player, parent or team is striving to be a top D1 recruit or play in the PLL. There are players out there who have a serious passion for the game and have the most amazing travel experiences with a B or C team. Comment is unnecessary and I guarantee that team couldn’t care less that a NOBODY thinks they’re a joke.

Agree! And, that NOBODIES kid is probably going to ride the bench all 4 years in college because they HAD to have the kid play D1! That’s a joke!

True story

That NOBODIES kid definitely not a D1 prospect to anyone other than that NOBODY.

Obi Won Kenobody! Get it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What programs are liking their 2027 experience ? We are not trusting the jesters merger. The pro of where we are is distance but willing to drive to avoid the merger. Would love honest advice on the matter

Trusting what?

Who is jesters merging with?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is jesters merging with?

They aren't merging with anyone...they bought Liberty

It sounds like LaxOn is losing a lot of players at this grade. That's too bad, the more teams the better I think. Are they going to be able to field a team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It sounds like LaxOn is losing a lot of players at this grade. That's too bad, the more teams the better I think. Are they going to be able to field a team?

Are they leaving midyear? Where are they going? They have 3 or 4 really good players who would have many choices if they want to leave.

The two YJA girls on Farmingdale have to be the best at their positions. Watched at the county semis.

Thanks Mom!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The two YJA girls on Farmingdale have to be the best at their positions. Watched at the county semis.

If you say so Dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The two YJA girls on Farmingdale have to be the best at their positions. Watched at the county semis.

Farmingdale has a lacrosse team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The two YJA girls on Farmingdale have to be the best at their positions. Watched at the county semis.

Farmingdale has a lacrosse team?

Will be interesting to see if they can show up to the Pequa game!

Let’s see how they do against an actual defense

Great start to summer season by Jesters. Went 7-0 and only real competitive game was a 3-1 playoff game against Steps.

Convincing wins against FLG, Blast and Top guns.

Their defense has always been solid, looking like their offense has finally caught up. Will be a tough out for anyone this summer.

There was no competition for them! Their only thing that’s holds them together in defense is the goalie.

Aside from a few key players FLG looked out of sync, not a good day for them. Jesters looked to be in mid-season form and steam rolled everyone.

Two nice wins for Top Guns against Pride and FLG, Navy

The goalie?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great start to summer season by Jesters. Went 7-0 and only real competitive game was a 3-1 playoff game against Steps.

Convincing wins against FLG, Blast and Top guns.

Their defense has always been solid, looking like their offense has finally caught up. Will be a tough out for anyone this summer.

Thanks dad, you must be so proud! Will it be tough for HG who beat them by 6 at NGLL?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great start to summer season by Jesters. Went 7-0 and only real competitive game was a 3-1 playoff game against Steps.

Convincing wins against FLG, Blast and Top guns.

Their defense has always been solid, looking like their offense has finally caught up. Will be a tough out for anyone this summer.

Is a 5-2 win over FLG in their first games together this season a really "convincing" win? Sounds like a pretty good game. I heard FLG coach wasn't coaching them that game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great start to summer season by Jesters. Went 7-0 and only real competitive game was a 3-1 playoff game against Steps.

Convincing wins against FLG, Blast and Top guns.

Their defense has always been solid, looking like their offense has finally caught up. Will be a tough out for anyone this summer.

Is a 5-2 win over FLG in their first games together this season a really "convincing" win? Sounds like a pretty good game. I heard FLG coach wasn't coaching them that game.

Is FLG making a coaching change?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great start to summer season by Jesters. Went 7-0 and only real competitive game was a 3-1 playoff game against Steps.

Convincing wins against FLG, Blast and Top guns.

Their defense has always been solid, looking like their offense has finally caught up. Will be a tough out for anyone this summer.

Is a 5-2 win over FLG in their first games together this season a really "convincing" win? Sounds like a pretty good game. I heard FLG coach wasn't coaching them that game.

Well next weekend is put up or shut up for FLG. They play M&D, Jesters, YJA and BLC. Let's see what they can do once they finally play in a decent bracket.

If they win 3 games or more, their parents can talk all they went. If they go 0-4 or 1-3, then we can start talking about who their top players will play for next year.

FLG without players and without their coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG without players and without their coach

Then they shouldn't have played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great start to summer season by Jesters. Went 7-0 and only real competitive game was a 3-1 playoff game against Steps.

Convincing wins against FLG, Blast and Top guns.

Their defense has always been solid, looking like their offense has finally caught up. Will be a tough out for anyone this summer.

Is a 5-2 win over FLG in their first games together this season a really "convincing" win? Sounds like a pretty good game. I heard FLG coach wasn't coaching them that game.

Well next weekend is put up or shut up for FLG. They play M&D, Jesters, YJA and BLC. Let's see what they can do once they finally play in a decent bracket.

If they win 3 games or more, their parents can talk all they went. If they go 0-4 or 1-3, then we can start talking about who their top players will play for next year.

Disagree. Win lose no matter. You make good fight, earn respect, then nobody bother.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great start to summer season by Jesters. Went 7-0 and only real competitive game was a 3-1 playoff game against Steps.

Convincing wins against FLG, Blast and Top guns.

Their defense has always been solid, looking like their offense has finally caught up. Will be a tough out for anyone this summer.

Is a 5-2 win over FLG in their first games together this season a really "convincing" win? Sounds like a pretty good game. I heard FLG coach wasn't coaching them that game.

Well next weekend is put up or shut up for FLG. They play M&D, Jesters, YJA and BLC. Let's see what they can do once they finally play in a decent bracket.

If they win 3 games or more, their parents can talk all they went. If they go 0-4 or 1-3, then we can start talking about who their top players will play for next year.

Disagree. Win lose no matter. You make good fight, earn respect, then nobody bother.

well played Miyagi-san

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG without players and without their coach

stop being lame

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is FLG making a coaching change?

Sounds like it.

Reality is that FLG no longer focuses on their teams, it’s a lacrosse media company now, not sure why any of their top players would stay there, especially those looking to play at the next level, plenty of top teams would be happy to have them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great start to summer season by Jesters. Went 7-0 and only real competitive game was a 3-1 playoff game against Steps.

Convincing wins against FLG, Blast and Top guns.

Their defense has always been solid, looking like their offense has finally caught up. Will be a tough out for anyone this summer.

defense has always been solid/ - since when 5th grade

this site offers some of the best comical insights.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reality is that FLG no longer focuses on their teams, it’s a lacrosse media company now, not sure why any of their top players would stay there, especially those looking to play at the next level, plenty of top teams would be happy to have them.

You think so? Rosters are basically set at this point. Hard to break in to a top team and earn real playing time. They have some nice players but so does every other team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reality is that FLG no longer focuses on their teams, it’s a lacrosse media company now, not sure why any of their top players would stay there, especially those looking to play at the next level, plenty of top teams would be happy to have them.

You think so? Rosters are basically set at this point. Hard to break in to a top team and earn real playing time. They have some nice players but so does every other team.

YJA has a smaller than normal roster. I would expect them to add 2-3 girls this summer. I know there are rumors about 1 or 2 of the stars from Aces moving to them, but not sure I believe that. If one of the 2 FLG stars wanted to move to YJ, I know Carol would find the a spot.

There are players on FLG that any top team would welcome. They are a talented group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reality is that FLG no longer focuses on their teams, it’s a lacrosse media company now, not sure why any of their top players would stay there, especially those looking to play at the next level, plenty of top teams would be happy to have them.

You think so? Rosters are basically set at this point. Hard to break in to a top team and earn real playing time. They have some nice players but so does every other team.

YJA has a smaller than normal roster. I would expect them to add 2-3 girls this summer. I know there are rumors about 1 or 2 of the stars from Aces moving to them, but not sure I believe that. If one of the 2 FLG stars wanted to move to YJ, I know Carol would find the a spot.

Why would you leave Aces and all their training for a team ranked lower?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reality is that FLG no longer focuses on their teams, it’s a lacrosse media company now, not sure why any of their top players would stay there, especially those looking to play at the next level, plenty of top teams would be happy to have them.

You think so? Rosters are basically set at this point. Hard to break in to a top team and earn real playing time. They have some nice players but so does every other team.

YJA has a smaller than normal roster. I would expect them to add 2-3 girls this summer. I know there are rumors about 1 or 2 of the stars from Aces moving to them, but not sure I believe that. If one of the 2 FLG stars wanted to move to YJ, I know Carol would find the a spot.

Why would you leave Aces and all their training for a team ranked lower?

Because they have no recruiting track record and their recruiting directors is a personal trainer who has never played lacrosse and a young coach who was recently fired from Butler.

They have already lost several of their top 25s and 26s to Monster, their big competitor. However, Monster 27 is not a top club and several of the top 27s came from Monster which makes them leaving for Monster less likely.

I agree that leaving for YJ is not the most likely outcome, but I will be shocked if all of their key players are still on their roster come October.

Is it true tournaments are canceled this weekend because if air quality?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true tournaments are canceled this weekend because if air quality?

What’s worse the air quality or flg?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true tournaments are canceled this weekend because if air quality?

No

Wow. Parents are mean

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true tournaments are canceled this weekend because if air quality?

No

They should cancel them. Terrible to have them play in this air quality! All money driven. Just terrible! It’s so dangerous!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true tournaments are canceled this weekend because if air quality?

No

They should cancel them. Terrible to have them play in this air quality! All money driven. Just terrible! It’s so dangerous!

supposed to clear by tomorrow - why would they cancel if air quality is forecasted to improve?? The summer season is so short as it is and impossible to reschedule any tournaments

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true tournaments are canceled this weekend because if air quality?

No

They should cancel them. Terrible to have them play in this air quality! All money driven. Just terrible! It’s so dangerous!

supposed to clear by tomorrow - why would they cancel if air quality is forecasted to improve?? The summer season is so short as it is and impossible to reschedule any tournaments

It's the first recruiting weekend, the games will go on. Plus the smoke should be out of northern MD by midday Friday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true tournaments are canceled this weekend because if air quality?

No

They should cancel them. Terrible to have them play in this air quality! All money driven. Just terrible! It’s so dangerous!

supposed to clear by tomorrow - why would they cancel if air quality is forecasted to improve?? The summer season is so short as it is and impossible to reschedule any tournaments

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true tournaments are canceled this weekend because if air quality?

No

They should cancel them. Terrible to have them play in this air quality! All money driven. Just terrible! It’s so dangerous!

What is so dangerous ? Its a little air quality issue. Its not the end of the world.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reality is that FLG no longer focuses on their teams, it’s a lacrosse media company now, not sure why any of their top players would stay there, especially those looking to play at the next level, plenty of top teams would be happy to have them.

You think so? Rosters are basically set at this point. Hard to break in to a top team and earn real playing time. They have some nice players but so does every other team.

YJA has a smaller than normal roster. I would expect them to add 2-3 girls this summer. I know there are rumors about 1 or 2 of the stars from Aces moving to them, but not sure I believe that. If one of the 2 FLG stars wanted to move to YJ, I know Carol would find the a spot.

Why would you leave Aces and all their training for a team ranked lower?

Because they have no recruiting track record and their recruiting directors is a personal trainer who has never played lacrosse and a young coach who was recently fired from Butler.

They have already lost several of their top 25s and 26s to Monster, their big competitor. However, Monster 27 is not a top club and several of the top 27s came from Monster which makes them leaving for Monster less likely.

I agree that leaving for YJ is not the most likely outcome, but I will be shocked if all of their key players are still on their roster come October.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reality is that FLG no longer focuses on their teams, it’s a lacrosse media company now, not sure why any of their top players would stay there, especially those looking to play at the next level, plenty of top teams would be happy to have them.

You think so? Rosters are basically set at this point. Hard to break in to a top team and earn real playing time. They have some nice players but so does every other team.

YJA has a smaller than normal roster. I would expect them to add 2-3 girls this summer. I know there are rumors about 1 or 2 of the stars from Aces moving to them, but not sure I believe that. If one of the 2 FLG stars wanted to move to YJ, I know Carol would find the a spot.

Why would you leave Aces and all their training for a team ranked lower?

Because they have no recruiting track record and their recruiting directors is a personal trainer who has never played lacrosse and a young coach who was recently fired from Butler.

They have already lost several of their top 25s and 26s to Monster, their big competitor. However, Monster 27 is not a top club and several of the top 27s came from Monster which makes them leaving for Monster less likely.

I agree that leaving for YJ is not the most likely outcome, but I will be shocked if all of their key players are still on their roster come October.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reality is that FLG no longer focuses on their teams, it’s a lacrosse media company now, not sure why any of their top players would stay there, especially those looking to play at the next level, plenty of top teams would be happy to have them.

You think so? Rosters are basically set at this point. Hard to break in to a top team and earn real playing time. They have some nice players but so does every other team.

YJA has a smaller than normal roster. I would expect them to add 2-3 girls this summer. I know there are rumors about 1 or 2 of the stars from Aces moving to them, but not sure I believe that. If one of the 2 FLG stars wanted to move to YJ, I know Carol would find the a spot.

Why would you leave Aces and all their training for a team ranked lower?

Because they have no recruiting track record and their recruiting directors is a personal trainer who has never played lacrosse and a young coach who was recently fired from Butler.

They have already lost several of their top 25s and 26s to Monster, their big competitor. However, Monster 27 is not a top club and several of the top 27s came from Monster which makes them leaving for Monster less likely.

I agree that leaving for YJ is not the most likely outcome, but I will be shocked if all of their key players are still on their roster come October.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Reality is that FLG no longer focuses on their teams, it’s a lacrosse media company now, not sure why any of their top players would stay there, especially those looking to play at the next level, plenty of top teams would be happy to have them.

You think so? Rosters are basically set at this point. Hard to break in to a top team and earn real playing time. They have some nice players but so does every other team.

YJA has a smaller than normal roster. I would expect them to add 2-3 girls this summer. I know there are rumors about 1 or 2 of the stars from Aces moving to them, but not sure I believe that. If one of the 2 FLG stars wanted to move to YJ, I know Carol would find the a spot.

Why would you leave Aces and all their training for a team ranked lower?

Because they have no recruiting track record and their recruiting directors is a personal trainer who has never played lacrosse and a young coach who was recently fired from Butler.

They have already lost several of their top 25s and 26s to Monster, their big competitor. However, Monster 27 is not a top club and several of the top 27s came from Monster which makes them leaving for Monster less likely.

I agree that leaving for YJ is not the most likely outcome, but I will be shocked if all of their key players are still on their roster come October.

Aces didn’t lose anyone from 26’ to Monster, nor are any 27’s leaving a legit team. As for FLG, they have a top 10 team with solid coaching and players. Not sure why the constant knocks.

Can’t wait to hear from Jester’s Dad…..

What happened?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened?

YJ 9 FLG 3
FLG 5 Jesters 3
M&D 5 Jesters 4

FLG coach is always yelling

So we confirmed what everyone knows, YJ is the best team on the Island by a wide margin. Way too many holes in some of the other teams to be consistent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So we confirmed what everyone knows, YJ is the best team on the Island by a wide margin. Way too many holes in some of the other teams to be consistent

Instead of being a nozzle and patting your little Sally on the back for being on a great team, why not congratulate all the Long Island teams for their performances this weekend. FLG 2-2 losing a tight one to M and D Black. Jesters 1-3 and in every game. Overall a great showing by the 3 main Long Island teams.

Lots of anonymous chest pounding on botc! I don't think anyone names their kid Sally anymore but well said. YJ had the best showing this weekend, they are a talented bunch with very few, if any, holes. Their coaching was stellar too. All 3 teams represented well overall. 7-5 record over 12 games against some of the best teams in country.

Lots of great talent on LI....Nice to see them represent...especially with Maryland refs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG coach is always yelling

FLG needs a new coach before recruiting starts for this reason. Many coaches don't want to get anyone near a kid from that type of culture.

That makes no sense. They are recruiting the kid not the coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of great talent on LI....Nice to see them represent...especially with Maryland refs

refs played a huge part on LI success, they were tired and just stopped calling 3 seconds (if they even knew what that was) and other crosschecks. It played a big role in all ages.

I'm not sure why more MD teams don't adopt the backer zone for this reason.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That makes no sense. They are recruiting the kid not the coach.

Clearly you are new to lax recruiting . They are recruiting culture first and foremost. Same reason colleges don't want to recruit any player on teams with out of control parents. Some college may make exceptions for players who are top-25 in their recruiting class but that usually backfires.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of great talent on LI....Nice to see them represent...especially with Maryland refs

refs played a huge part on LI success, they were tired and just stopped calling 3 seconds (if they even knew what that was) and other crosschecks. It played a big role in all ages.

I'm not sure why more MD teams don't adopt the backer zone for this reason.

Because it makes it harder to showcase talented defenders for coaches. It will win you games at this level without a doubt, but makes it harder to your defenders to showcase their 1:1 defending skills, lax IQ, etc.

This doesn't mean superstar defenders wont get noticed; it just makes it harder for the next tier to showcase their skills

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of great talent on LI....Nice to see them represent...especially with Maryland refs

refs played a huge part on LI success, they were tired and just stopped calling 3 seconds (if they even knew what that was) and other crosschecks. It played a big role in all ages.

I'm not sure why more MD teams don't adopt the backer zone for this reason.

Please, just stop.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG coach is always yelling

She’s a great person and coach, flg will miss her

Curious how the players feel about the FLG coaching change

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Curious how the players feel about the FLG coaching change

Who is the new coach?

FLG coaching change is not a surprise, she rubs off as a bit of a control freak when coaching. When watching their attack their girls don’t get one second to play for themselves she calls out everything they do. Probably what separates them from teams like YJ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of great talent on LI....Nice to see them represent...especially with Maryland refs

refs played a huge part on LI success, they were tired and just stopped calling 3 seconds (if they even knew what that was) and other crosschecks. It played a big role in all ages.

I'm not sure why more MD teams don't adopt the backer zone for this reason.

Please, just stop.

Absolute terrible officiating, ironic you LI folks think you won games despite the refs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of great talent on LI....Nice to see them represent...especially with Maryland refs

refs played a huge part on LI success, they were tired and just stopped calling 3 seconds (if they even knew what that was) and other crosschecks. It played a big role in all ages.

I'm not sure why more MD teams don't adopt the backer zone for this reason.

Because it makes it harder to showcase talented defenders for coaches. It will win you games at this level without a doubt, but makes it harder to your defenders to showcase their 1:1 defending skills, lax IQ, etc.

This doesn't mean superstar defenders wont get noticed; it just makes it harder for the next tier to showcase their skills

Fair point, unless your the backer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of great talent on LI....Nice to see them represent...especially with Maryland refs

refs played a huge part on LI success, they were tired and just stopped calling 3 seconds (if they even knew what that was) and other crosschecks. It played a big role in all ages.

I'm not sure why more MD teams don't adopt the backer zone for this reason.

Because it makes it harder to showcase talented defenders for coaches. It will win you games at this level without a doubt, but makes it harder to your defenders to showcase their 1:1 defending skills, lax IQ, etc.

This doesn't mean superstar defenders wont get noticed; it just makes it harder for the next tier to showcase their skills

Fair point, unless your the backer.

And in most cases, the superstar is the backer. The format makes it really hard for the other defenders or middies who project to D at next level to stand out since they are rarely playing one on one defense.

No college coaches want to go to watch teams play backer. Teams hide w backer to win T shirts. Play man well and a college coach can teach you zone or backer.

FLG coach is great. She wins w a mediocre team. FLG in big trouble next year. Enjoy the success while it lasts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No college coaches want to go to watch teams play backer. Teams hide w backer to win T shirts. Play man well and a college coach can teach you zone or backer.

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK.

I have no issue with a team occasionally going to a backer to give a different look or showcase one of their backers. But playing it 90% of the time isn't helping your defenders or middies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG coach is great. She wins w a mediocre team. FLG in big trouble next year. Enjoy the success while it lasts.

Someone woke up on the on the angry side of the bed this morning. Man if you are getting this worked up over a team having fun, playing great lacrosse and finding success I can only imagine what you are like on the sidelines during your precious little pumpkins games! Maybe you are just upset that you are not having the same experiences with the families and players on your little cherubs team as these families and players seem to be having.

YJ only plays man to man and went 4-0.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ only plays man to man and went 4-0.

which is also why they get all the top defenders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ only plays man to man and went 4-0.

which is also why they get all the top defenders.

All those girls could be top mids on other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ only plays man to man and went 4-0.

which is also why they get all the top defenders.

Hardest position in lax to find is really good defenders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ only plays man to man and went 4-0.

which is also why they get all the top defenders.

Hardest position in lax to find is really good defenders.

YJ's defenders are different class than pretty much any other team in this age group in the country. The only time they struggle is if a bad ref doesn't allow any contact on cutters.

If you want to score on YJ, you better do it in transition, because it is really hard in settled play (at least against the starters)

FLG looks lifeless when they play, it’s a good group of girls wonder why they went 1-3 against subpar teams. I think the coaching change is smart.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG looks lifeless when they play, it’s a good group of girls wonder why they went 1-3 against subpar teams. I think the coaching change is smart.

To be fair, this is the first year they have chosen to play against top competition week in, week out. Even harder as they get older since there will rarely be blowouts as kids get older and defense gets better.

It's tough to adjust to playing at that level every game. I would expect to see improvement as the year goes on.

Anyone have insights on how the liberty/Jester merger will work with tryouts. They seem to be staying “separate” but I would think the top girls on the Liberty black team would want to try and get in the Jester Black team. Will they be looking to create “super” teams.

My daughter needs a change. Looking for suggestions on a Long Island club that plays in good tourneys and good for recruiting.

Assum

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My daughter needs a change. Looking for suggestions on a Long Island club that plays in good tourneys and good for recruiting.

Hard to say without having more info. The 27 clubs with the best recruiting records are YJ and TJs, followed by Jesters. FLG is also well connected and strong at this age group. They all play in good tourneys.

However, I'd say 90% of the girls on the rosters of their top teams have D1 talent/potential. If your daughter isn't even better than that, then her chances of making those team are probably remote. Also, if she is good enough, those clubs would likely know who she is.

If she is really interested, I'd recommend that she drop in on a practice with any potential teams before tryouts.

FLG is no longer with the same coach I heard they switched coaches early.

True that FLG parted ways with 2027 Navy coach !! Those guys are true fools

Who is the new coach?

I think it’s the Mercy head coach and the St Johns coach. Don’t think it’s a foolish decision… a collage coach coaching you daughter is definitely an upgrade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think it’s the Mercy head coach and the St Johns coach. Don’t think it’s a foolish decision… a collage coach coaching you daughter is definitely an upgrade.

It’s the way they went about it…

What happened with 2027 Top Guns coach? Heard he has asked to leave by the parents mid game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened with 2027 Top Guns coach? Heard he has asked to leave by the parents mid game?

Lol why?

Didn't happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True that FLG parted ways with 2027 Navy coach !! Those guys are true fools

Most of the team are very unhappy, I wouldn’t be surprised if the top players leave.

Bafoon

Empire always looking for more kids!

No need for foul language on this positive website!

You guys say this every year. With the coaching change I’m sure FLG will be even better than before. When watching then I always thought their coaching was holding them back .

Ha. Thanks for the opinion FLG owners.

Correct. Current coach top 15. New coach rank over 102. Makes complete sense.

Regardless of the quality of the coach, a coaching change at this point in the season rarely helps and hurts more often than not.

Let's be honest, at this point in the season for any high level team, there is very limited "coaching" going on. Teams aren't putting in new offenses or changing strategy. Player development isn't really happening either.

The only adjustments that can be made are changes in substitution patterns. And anyone who has watched FLG play know that isn't their issue -- their best players are almost always on the field.

From what I've seen their biggest challenge is patience on both ends of the field -- not fouling when not necessarily on defense and not trying to always push it on offense. Improvement in those areas come with experience and lots of game action, I don't think a panic change at coaching will help.

Maybe the new coach will have a big impact, but if so, it likely won't happened until September/October.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened with 2027 Top Guns coach? Heard he has asked to leave by the parents mid game?

I walked by one of their Lax for the cure games and watched about 5 minutes. Something is clearly wrong beyond the play. Looks like a majority of those girls didn't watch to be there and there was zero energy. (Keep in mind this was 8 minutes into a game where they were still competitive)

Hope FLG gets it together, when they play it looks like something is off . I would like to see three top LI teams in HS.

Big issue with them the past 2 years and not many if any outsiders know is that a few of their top players play with the 2024 team in the same tournament weekend and they don’t have the energy to play after playing in consecutive and double the amount of games with heavy minutes. That’s the real back story with that team. Hurts the current team and girls as well as parents with wasted expenses to try and help a few 24’s who haven’t committed yet.

Next year it won’t be a problem. There are many talented girls on the team. I could definitely see then getting better.But also if they loose a few of their good players it would be very bad because their bench is weak. Hopefully They stay together.

Empire doesn’t allow double rostering.

This is wrong I think their old coach has been with them for every tournament/game this year, the new one only came in AFTER summer Genesis.

Not true

There is so much here that is not true. Please be specific.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True that FLG parted ways with 2027 Navy coach !! Those guys are true fools

Most of the team are very unhappy, I wouldn’t be surprised if the top players leave.

Not sure why they would stay, they can move to clubs that will get them recruited.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hope FLG gets it together, when they play it looks like something is off . I would like to see three top LI teams in HS.

Is it true that FLG merged with Team Elevate? Or rumor?

This gets better and better…..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hope FLG gets it together, when they play it looks like something is off . I would like to see three top LI teams in HS.

Is it true that FLG merged with Team Elevate? Or rumor?

apparently not a rumor

True

Doesn’t help the 27s

FLG Navy now entering lower brackets in MD Cup. Something must be wrong over there. Didn’t show well in a soft Hershey tournament and now finish their season in a B/C bracket?

Who cares

MD CUP Schedule is out and there only appears to be on Bracket with YJ A and B teams listed. FLG has a team entered as "FLG ALL LONG ISLAND" possibly a combo team of FLG NAVY and Elevates better players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD CUP Schedule is out and there only appears to be on Bracket with YJ A and B teams listed. FLG has a team entered as "FLG ALL LONG ISLAND" possibly a combo team of FLG NAVY and Elevates better players

Lots of teams traveling to Maryland. And hardly any Maryland teams? Am I missing something?

Other than YJ, no top teams committed? Disappointing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD CUP Schedule is out and there only appears to be on Bracket with YJ A and B teams listed. FLG has a team entered as "FLG ALL LONG ISLAND" possibly a combo team of FLG NAVY and Elevates better players

Lots of teams traveling to Maryland. And hardly any Maryland teams? Am I missing something?

Other than YJ, no top teams committed? Disappointing

That's interesting because at the 25 and 26 levels, the MD Cup field is much strong.

12 of top 15 2025 teams playing in MD Cup

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD CUP Schedule is out and there only appears to be on Bracket with YJ A and B teams listed. FLG has a team entered as "FLG ALL LONG ISLAND" possibly a combo team of FLG NAVY and Elevates better players

Also 5 brackets and only 4 teams make playoffs. Not sure how that will work.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD CUP Schedule is out and there only appears to be on Bracket with YJ A and B teams listed. FLG has a team entered as "FLG ALL LONG ISLAND" possibly a combo team of FLG NAVY and Elevates better players

Lots of teams traveling to Maryland. And hardly any Maryland teams? Am I missing something?

Other than YJ, no top teams committed? Disappointing

To be fair, with 3 tourneys in 8 days, YJ could end up playing 16 games in that time. Those girls will be fried by Maryland Cup, especially if starters are getting 90% of minutes at G8 and Youth Nationals.

Mid Atlantic same week has Jesters plus M&D Black, Eagle Stix, FL Select and Aces. Way, way better. YJA needs the challenge if they’re gonna travel this far!

FLG ALL LONG ISLAND team is not a combo it’s the same roster from every tournament this year, elevate doesn’t even have a 2027 team.

So why the new name for FLG and why play in softer brackets?

OK, However they are not listed by US Club Lacrosse so whatever games they have played in Tournaments have not been entered. what Tournaments have they played in.

Elevate lost all their better players to Jesters a few years ago, since then they have had a 26/27 combo team with mostly 26s

Yes don't know how its going to work either.
There are 34 Teams entered 17 in the top 100 and 17 above the 100 ranking w/ 7 YJ teams entered.
The groupings are set up pretty much by rankings 4 - 30, 14 - 58, 49 - 120, 101 -168 and 107 and up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes don't know how its going to work either.
There are 34 Teams entered 17 in the top 100 and 17 above the 100 ranking w/ 7 YJ teams entered.
The groupings are set up pretty much by rankings 4 - 30, 14 - 58, 49 - 120, 101 -168 and 107 and up

If they just flipped FLG and Top Guns, no one would be complaining about the brackets. As It is right now, FLG probably has an even easier path to playoffs then YJ

Why wouldn’t 14 be with 4-30 group? Who is 14?

#14 FLG NAVY, there is no ranking for FLG ALL Long Island

#21 YJ Gaghan B Team

#29 Team 180

FLG Navy is FLG All Long Island they are the same team and the games they play will still be put under FLG Navy on Us Club Lax and there are no new girls.

What I don't understand is why so many clubs send their recruiting age teams to MD Cup, but younger teams to Mid Atlantic.

Examples
- Aces
- Heros
- Steps
- Capital (tbf they don't have youth teams)
- Skywalkers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What I don't understand is why so many clubs send their recruiting age teams to MD Cup, but younger teams to Mid Atlantic.

Examples
- Aces
- Heros
- Steps
- Capital (tbf they don't have youth teams)
- Skywalkers

Follow the money…..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

#14 FLG NAVY, there is no ranking for FLG ALL Long Island

#21 YJ Gaghan B Team

#29 Team 180

And FLG isn't playing either of those teams. Best team they play is #43 Bay State Bullets, who best win was against #73 CT Grizzlies.

Does anyone know how MD Cup playoffs will work? 5 groups and only 4 teams make playoffs. Meaning with YJB and FLG could go undefeated if only one team per group gets through.

Would really [Censored] for FLG to go all the way to MD, blow out 4 b

next year almost everyone goes to Maryland cup. maybe its a better venue for coaches to recruit at....who knows.

All the 26's are there...except MD Black

FLG girls on the move looking for a better path to recruiting….

Originally Posted by Anonymous

next year almost everyone goes to Maryland cup. maybe its a better venue for coaches to recruit at....who knows.

All the 26's are there...except MD Black

NO there are other top 26 teams at Mid Atlantic- including two teams ranked above M&D and Eagle Stix

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG Navy now entering lower brackets in MD Cup. Something must be wrong over there. Didn’t show well in a soft Hershey tournament and now finish their season in a B/C bracket?

This is what happens when you fire the coach.

Any of you ladies or gents having your kid tryout for YJ, TG, Jesters given tryouts are in 2 weeks or so u think rosters are set by this age?

In summer Genesis they still had their old coach their new coach only came in last week…

Rosters for travel teams are always fluid.

It's unfortunate for all the 2027 teams heading to the MD CUP this year. It appears that only the STEVENSON group will be involved in a playoff all other teams play four games and head home. The same thing happened last year which is why allot of the better teams are going to the MID ATLANTIC the same weekend

STEVENSON GROUP
#3 YJ Stadler
#14 Steps California
#15 Prime Time
#25 Monster Elite Purple
#26 Team 1 Wildcats
#28 LI Top Gun Black

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's unfortunate for all the 2027 teams heading to the MD CUP this year. It appears that only the STEVENSON group will be involved in a playoff all other teams play four games and head home. The same thing happened last year which is why allot of the better teams are going to the MID ATLANTIC the same weekend

STEVENSON GROUP
#3 YJ Stadler
#14 Steps California
#15 Prime Time
#25 Monster Elite Purple
#26 Team 1 Wildcats
#28 LI Top Gun Black

That doesn't feel right to me. I'd think YJ would at least give a path for YJB to make playoffs. Maybe 3 from top group and 1 from second.

Also last year, 2 team from top group made playoffs and 1 team from next two.

Anyone have a link STEVENSON Group merch?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's unfortunate for all the 2027 teams heading to the MD CUP this year. It appears that only the STEVENSON group will be involved in a playoff all other teams play four games and head home. The same thing happened last year which is why allot of the better teams are going to the MID ATLANTIC the same weekend

STEVENSON GROUP
#3 YJ Stadler
#14 Steps California
#15 Prime Time
#25 Monster Elite Purple
#26 Team 1 Wildcats
#28 LI Top Gun Black

Why is FLG ranked #12 in B bracket?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's unfortunate for all the 2027 teams heading to the MD CUP this year. It appears that only the STEVENSON group will be involved in a playoff all other teams play four games and head home. The same thing happened last year which is why allot of the better teams are going to the MID ATLANTIC the same weekend

STEVENSON GROUP
#3 YJ Stadler
#14 Steps California
#15 Prime Time
#25 Monster Elite Purple
#26 Team 1 Wildcats
#28 LI Top Gun Black

Why is FLG ranked #12 in B bracket?

Curious what everyone considers an A team or B team? Is top 20 considered A and the next 20 considered B?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's unfortunate for all the 2027 teams heading to the MD CUP this year. It appears that only the STEVENSON group will be involved in a playoff all other teams play four games and head home. The same thing happened last year which is why allot of the better teams are going to the MID ATLANTIC the same weekend

STEVENSON GROUP
#3 YJ Stadler
#14 Steps California
#15 Prime Time
#25 Monster Elite Purple
#26 Team 1 Wildcats
#28 LI Top Gun Black

Why is FLG ranked #12 in B bracket?

Curious what everyone considers an A team or B team? Is top 20 considered A and the next 20 considered B?

I would think top 20 would be a good marking point. But in reality, the 20th best "A" team is light years behind the top 3 or 4 teams. But you have to start the A conversation somewhere. So 20 sounds about right

Top 20 based on what? Hopefully parents aren’t taking the US Club rankings all that serious. College evaluators don’t pay attention to them…..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's unfortunate for all the 2027 teams heading to the MD CUP this year. It appears that only the STEVENSON group will be involved in a playoff all other teams play four games and head home. The same thing happened last year which is why allot of the better teams are going to the MID ATLANTIC the same weekend

STEVENSON GROUP
#3 YJ Stadler
#14 Steps California
#15 Prime Time
#25 Monster Elite Purple
#26 Team 1 Wildcats
#28 LI Top Gun Black

Why is FLG ranked #12 in B bracket?

Curious what everyone considers an A team or B team? Is top 20 considered A and the next 20 considered B?

I would think top 20 would be a good marking point. But in reality, the 20th best "A" team is light years behind the top 3 or 4 teams. But you have to start the A conversation somewhere. So 20 sounds about right

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's unfortunate for all the 2027 teams heading to the MD CUP this year. It appears that only the STEVENSON group will be involved in a playoff all other teams play four games and head home. The same thing happened last year which is why allot of the better teams are going to the MID ATLANTIC the same weekend

STEVENSON GROUP
#3 YJ Stadler
#14 Steps California
#15 Prime Time
#25 Monster Elite Purple
#26 Team 1 Wildcats
#28 LI Top Gun Black

Why is FLG ranked #12 in B bracket?

Curious what everyone considers an A team or B team? Is top 20 considered A and the next 20 considered B?

I would think top 20 would be a good marking point. But in reality, the 20th best "A" team is light years behind the top 3 or 4 teams. But you have to start the A conversation somewhere. So 20 sounds about right

From my perspective, the top 7 are A-plus and the 8-30 are A. And there is a major gap between them.

you can’t convince me there is any material difference
between the 30th ranked team and the 8th or 9th.

For instance if #11 Steps beat #5 eagle stix, it would be a major upset. But if #29 Team 180 beat #11 steps, it would be a minor upset at best.

This is why the second bracket in tourneys is usually the most competitive because anyone can beat anyone else.

Look at MD Cup, with the exception of YJ North, any team in the MD bracket can beat anyone else. I highly doubt anyone goes 4-0.

FLG got put into the STEVENSON bracket playing yj a, monster, prime time, and top guns

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 20 based on what? Hopefully parents aren’t taking the US Club rankings all that serious. College evaluators don’t pay attention to them…..

not completely true. College coaches don't care if a team is #5 or #20. But they do care if a team is #20 or #90.

Ranking are probably most meaningful for clubs (especially outside the east coast) outside of the traditional top 20.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG got put into the STEVENSON bracket playing yj a, monster, prime time, and top guns

Why are there no MD teams playing in the MD Cup? Seems a waste to be playing LI Westchester and Upstate teams in Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG got put into the STEVENSON bracket playing yj a, monster, prime time, and top guns

Glad they are driving to Maryland to play them. Could have held that bracket in Westchester county and saved everyone some travel and hotels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG got put into the STEVENSON bracket playing yj a, monster, prime time, and top guns

Why are there no MD teams playing in the MD Cup? Seems a waste to be playing LI Westchester and Upstate teams in Maryland.

Because Maryland clubs have tryouts next week. M&D is the only top MD/VA club even playing in Mid-Atlantic. Heros/Pride/BLC/SW/Coppermine will end their season this weekend or are already done.

And M&D will likely be short any girls who will be cut or demoted next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG got put into the STEVENSON bracket playing yj a, monster, prime time, and top guns

Why are there no MD teams playing in the MD Cup? Seems a waste to be playing LI Westchester and Upstate teams in Maryland.

Because Maryland clubs have tryouts next week. M&D is the only top MD/VA club even playing in Mid-Atlantic. Heros/Pride/BLC/SW/Coppermine will end their season this weekend or are already done.

And M&D will likely be short any girls who will be cut or demoted next year.

Rosters for M&D won't be released until after the tournament. They will be there with complete team

I guess with all the back and forth about the MD Cup it appears they have changed the Playoff Bracket from just the Stevenson Bracket to an 8 team format
1q vs 8q, 2q vs 7q, 3q vs 6q and 4q vs 5q but they do not indicate how the brackets are broken down.

Just a guess:

Stevenson 3
Maryland 2
Goucher/Hopkins/Loyola 1 each

That’s how I would do it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just a guess:

Stevenson 3
Maryland 2
Goucher/Hopkins/Loyola 1 each

That’s how I would do it

Thanks probably most likely. Kinda surprised they didn't make Stevenson the 8 team groups, which is how most YJ/Steps tourneys work.

Will likely be seeded

1. Stevenson 1
2. Stevenson 2
3. Maryland 1
4. Maryland 2
5. Stevenson 3
6. Loyola 1
7. Goucher 1
8. Hopkins 1

Who cares

Not a bad Idea
But to keep it balanced they should create a two Division format based on their level of play.
Each Division would have the typical four groups of four teams (except two of them would have 5 teams or 1 with six teams).
Best record of each group moves on
Same amount of Qualifying teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess with all the back and forth about the MD Cup it appears they have changed the Playoff Bracket from just the Stevenson Bracket to an 8 team format
1q vs 8q, 2q vs 7q, 3q vs 6q and 4q vs 5q but they do not indicate how the brackets are broken down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess with all the back and forth about the MD Cup it appears they have changed the Playoff Bracket from just the Stevenson Bracket to an 8 team format
1q vs 8q, 2q vs 7q, 3q vs 6q and 4q vs 5q but they do not indicate how the brackets are broken down.

Maybe the tourney organizers read this forum

M9

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a bad Idea
But to keep it balanced they should create a two Division format based on their level of play.
Each Division would have the typical four groups of four teams (except two of them would have 5 teams or 1 with six teams).
Best record of each group moves on
Same amount of Qualifying teams

The better solution is to move all YJ/Steps tourneys into AA and A brackets with their own playoffs. This prevents teams from playing in a [Censored] bracket just to make playoffs.

For MD Cup, team in top 2 brackets should basically be in their own tourney. (Maybe sub HHH and Sound for YJ North). The teams in bottom brackets should be in their

Well the MD Cup updated the playoff schedule

2 Teams each from Stevenson, Maryland and Loyola
1 Team from Hopkins and Goucher

That’s funny.

You might want to watch the Florida Select Defenders if you believe that. Just sayin…

Context please

Jesters lose by 3 today to FL Select and by 4 to Eagle Stix. Super solid team with a great defense. Just not sure they will ever score enough to consistently with the top 5 or 6 teams. Still proud for a LI team to be top 10 other than YJA. And others close behind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters lose by 3 today to FL Select and by 4 to Eagle Stix. Super solid team with a great defense. Just not sure they will ever score enough to consistently with the top 5 or 6 teams. Still proud for a LI team to be top 10 other than YJA. And others close behind.

Good team. Although they did well to avoid Aces and M&D yesterday. Aces played well early. And M&D was hot.

Now with summer tourneys done, we can move on to what's important

1) speculating on who is moving to what team in tryouts
2) talking about how a massive cash grab American Select is and how the team selection process is unfair

Carry on

FLG, Liberty and Tradition girls on the move.

Where are they moving

everyone's moving to Florida

Congrats to Aces on their Mid Atlantic Title. They were clearly given the hardest route to the bracket and managed to pull out the win. Some great teams in that pool!

How many girls have go on to different travel teams after being with their original ones for some time? All the signs (no playing time, lack of feedback, etc) are there to go but nervous for my daughter and future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Aces on their Mid Atlantic Title. They were clearly given the hardest route to the bracket and managed to pull out the win. Some great teams in that pool!

Seems like they trade wins back and forth with M&D. Good games. Congrats to them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many girls have go on to different travel teams after being with their original ones for some time? All the signs (no playing time, lack of feedback, etc) are there to go but nervous for my daughter and future.

Same situation here! My daughter is trying out for other clubs. It’s hard to break that cycle but being a bench player with limited feedback isn’t good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many girls have go on to different travel teams after being with their original ones for some time? All the signs (no playing time, lack of feedback, etc) are there to go but nervous for my daughter and future.

Is she on a reputable A team? Does she play for a B team? You may want to start by being completely honest about her skill level. Why do you think she doesn’t play? Is she the 22nd girl on an A team? What are her aspirations for playing in college? At this age if they aren’t playing on the top team in any club then they it may not be worth it. Clubs that have multiple teams are definitely a money grab. The B teams (Nevermind) the teams below that, rarely get the quality coaching or attention. If your daughter loves the game and just wants to play then maybe she is better on a lower level team where she will see the field. Nobody is getting recruited because the stand nicely on the sideline. My advice when she gets to the right age is attend prospect days or camps at colleges she is interested in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many girls have go on to different travel teams after being with their original ones for some time? All the signs (no playing time, lack of feedback, etc) are there to go but nervous for my daughter and future.

Generally, after 8th grade season, most top teams will cut/demote 4-5 girls and replace them with better players. However after this year, there is much more roster stability. Team may add but they rarely cut.

Mid-tier teams have much less stability since they pick up new players from less teams, pick up new players from better teams, cut underperformers and lose top players to better team.

To Florida Select?

Lax On Elite 2027 has spots and a fantastic Head Coach. They did really well at Nationals against top teams.

Are they looking for attackers at Lax on? I am sure my daughter will lose her spot on an A team. Where are they located?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax On Elite 2027 has spots and a fantastic Head Coach. They did really well at Nationals against top teams.

Ummm.. They lost to the Monster by 15 and lost to a very bad Steps B team. Their only win was against a team of mostly 28s from Wyoming (and they didn't even blow them out).

Lots of girls at Top Guns tryouts. And no mommy/Daddy coaches in sight!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lax On Elite 2027 has spots and a fantastic Head Coach. They did really well at Nationals against top teams.

Ummm.. They lost to the Monster by 15 and lost to a very bad Steps B team. Their only win was against a team of mostly 28s from Wyoming (and they didn't even blow them out).

Who did your daughters team lose to

Let’s all go to TG and watch our girls get verbally abused by the coach with no children. Yeh, that’s the move!

Just the usual TG degrading psycho coaches….great!!!

Mommy/Daddy coaches mostly work in the teams favor. On my third go round with travel lax and I must say there’s a much deeper devotion to a team with a parent coach.

Top Guns a terrible destination - coach is fool. Many better options out there

How strict are the big/ medium size clubs with this 48 hour deadline to make a decision?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of girls at Top Guns tryouts. And no mommy/Daddy coaches in sight!

Great club with a proven track record of getting girls recruited to the most sought after schools. Have you see the list of recruits headed to college this fall? No club is perfect, and if you’re crying because your daughter was “yelled at” you and her better toughen up bit. If the goal is to play in college, better get used to some yelling. It’s when you don’t get yelled at is when you should be worried! Ask yourself why your daughter was yelled at. She probably wasn’t hustling or making the plays she needed to to win games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How strict are the big/ medium size clubs with this 48 hour deadline to make a decision?

Depends how good you are.. But often at the 48 hour mark, offers are made to wait list / B team girls.

If you need more time, just ask. Depending on your daughter's skill, they may say yes to a reasonable amount of time. However, no team will likely give you until YJ tryouts if that is what you are asking.

Many parents will put down the deposit and then leave if you have a better offer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top Guns a terrible destination - coach is fool. Many better options out there

TG has a great reputation if you are one of top 14 or 15 girls on the roster.

However, compare the recruiting results for the bottom third of the TG roster and bottom third of YJ roster. YJ gets its backups into much better schools.

Are the YJ backups that much better, maybe? But Carol focuses much more onA team backups (and even B team starters) than TG.

Interesting at the Nationals they lost to LI Jesters Black a top 10 team by 3, Steps Carolina a top 40 team by 2 and lost to Monster Purple a top 30 team by 15 with 12 field players due to injuries to top players that did not play.
The Organization and the 2027 team is in its 2 yr. of existence, and considering YJ, Jesters, FLG, TG, Liberty etc have been around for years and it's taken some time to get where they are. Most parents tend to go to the established teams,
However Lax On Elite has a TOP notch woman Director and Fantastic womens Coaches and treat the girls that play for them as if they were their own. What they say about teaching these young ladies on and off the field is true. There is only 1 team per age group, year round training and development.
There will be life after Lacrosse once these girls finish playing in Tournaments, and for High School. Some of these young girls will go on to play in College either way the will be prepared for what may happen on or off the field as young Ladies in the real world. That will make up for the wins and losses along the way.

The team is located in Suffolk County. Port Jeff area.

They have tryouts coming up this week and they are looking for Midfielders.

Thanks Lax On Director, very informative

Tradition and FLG consolidating talent?

Didn’t that TOP notch director get fired from her head coach position at Wantagh?

Feel the Teal!

Any truth to jesters and TG recruiting some some solid talent this tryout season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tradition and FLG consolidating talent?

What a complete fumbling of the bag by tradition. Should have opened up the club to non residents years ago. Would have at least gotten the Libertylax crowd

They really have only one issue and he will be the downfall of TopGuns. The brother/coach should not be around children.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They really have only one issue and he will be the downfall of TopGuns. The brother/coach should not be around children.

Wow! Your jealousy is embarrassing! TG is and always have been the second (next to YJ), and in some cases the best team on LI. Excellent recruiting record. AS is a great coach. Very hardworking and honest. If you have a problem with him, did you speak to him about it? Of course you didn’t. Instead, come on here and make up a bunch of nonsense. Sorry your daughter was cut. Maybe spend less time complaining and more time practicing with her?

Jesters got a lot of new talent this year.

Is Tradition done?

Empire tryout was a disappointment

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They really have only one issue and he will be the downfall of TopGuns. The brother/coach should not be around children.

Wow! Your jealousy is embarrassing! TG is and always have been the second (next to YJ), and in some cases the best team on LI. Excellent recruiting record. AS is a great coach. Very hardworking and honest. If you have a problem with him, did you speak to him about it? Of course you didn’t. Instead, come on here and make up a bunch of nonsense. Sorry your daughter was cut. Maybe spend less time complaining and more time practicing with her?

Have you heard the brother /coach on the sidelines..??? Embarrassing to say the least. The man should not be coaching girls’ lacrosse. Screaming, jumping and berating girls will not make them better. Doesnt seem like a man who will have a adult conversation when you tell him to stop acting a fool and represent the club with some class

Get your facts straight,

1. She is not the Director
2. She was let go from Wantagh because a HS staff person applied for the Coaches position and for no other reason.

Not a director or a parent.

Just stating what is right, if you wish to report things here and help these young girls along try not to be so negative and be a little more supportive, informative and helpful.

Are Liberty girls coming back after the merger or are they moving on?

Why are some of you being negative about a club clearly your daughters don't intend to play for. Elites mindset? Looking up schedules and results! Clearly the team made some improvements this year as any team should. And yes players who are not seeing the field much, and there are many who can play very well given the chance, should be considering a club li!e this. Maybe the joy of lacrosse would come back to them, instead of driving to practice and putting in the work for maybe ten minutes in a game! You al! Know those trips home on the turnpike are no fun for you and your daughter. Take a shot, remember this is for your daughter not you! See the joy on her face! Your never going to be happy anyway, whether it's playing time or coaches attitudes or the screaming etc, might as well not be happy but your daughter is on the field in games getting better and happy
My 2 cents

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Get your facts straight,

1. She is not the Director
2. She was let go from Wantagh because a HS staff person applied for the Coaches position and for no other reason.

RE: #2 the new coach is a WHS staff? Or are you saying a staff person applied and she was let go bc of that? Sorry doesnt add up

When laxon uses ChatGPT for BOTC

Sadly, Any of the better liberty /tradition players likely won’t see much play time on a higher ranked team with an even bigger roster than before. Are FLG and Tradition officially done for this age group? Top Guns coach crosses the line of toughness-from the opposing sidelines he just sounds unnecessarily degrading. There’s a big difference from being yelled at and what he’s doing

With all the negative talk about the TG coach you would think kids would be leaving the team after a season if it was that bad. Is this the case?

People talk bad about their team/coach because they don’t want others to take their spot on that team. Ignore. Form your own opinion.

YJ Piscatelli

if those girls enjoy 8-10mins of play and 30mins of being yelled at then no need to rock the boat. Curious why no one talks about YJ B team here. Are those girls happy? No change in roster? Seems like a solid group and no parent drama on this forum

Lax On directors trying too hard to be relevant

The top guns coach has the worst reputation at the 2027 age, some families will continue to send their kids their to get verbally abused so the parents can say their kid is on an A team. Smarten up families and put your kids in good situations

Admin/mods - is there something wrong with the girls 2026 9th grade thread? We cant even get to it FYI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The top guns coach has the worst reputation at the 2027 age, some families will continue to send their kids their to get verbally abused so the parents can say their kid is on an A team. Smarten up families and put your kids in good situations

Yes, they will continue to stay on the team because their girls will have great recruiting opportunities come recruiting year. That sounds pretty smart. TG coaches have been around for many years and know the game and process better than many other coaches. They have a proven track record. You are greatly exaggerating the “abuse” and just sound like a disgruntled parent whose daughter was cut or benched.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The top guns coach has the worst reputation at the 2027 age, some families will continue to send their kids their to get verbally abused so the parents can say their kid is on an A team. Smarten up families and put your kids in good situations

Yes, they will continue to stay on the team because their girls will have great recruiting opportunities come recruiting year. That sounds pretty smart. TG coaches have been around for many years and know the game and process better than many other coaches. They have a proven track record. You are greatly exaggerating the “abuse” and just sound like a disgruntled parent whose daughter was cut or benched.

I don't have a kid on a LI team but we've played TG 27 a few teams, the coach is out of control and shouldn't be around those kids. Just my perspective from watching him put his own girls in tears during games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The top guns coach has the worst reputation at the 2027 age, some families will continue to send their kids their to get verbally abused so the parents can say their kid is on an A team. Smarten up families and put your kids in good situations

Yes, they will continue to stay on the team because their girls will have great recruiting opportunities come recruiting year. That sounds pretty smart. TG coaches have been around for many years and know the game and process better than many other coaches. They have a proven track record. You are greatly exaggerating the “abuse” and just sound like a disgruntled parent whose daughter was cut or benched.

I don't have a kid on a LI team but we've played TG 27 a few teams, the coach is out of control and shouldn't be around those kids. Just my perspective from watching him put his own girls in tears during games.

Lol, make up another story. Just unbelievable! Let it go! Be happy on your new team and stop obsessing over TG.

What is the deal with the cartoon font on the Liberty tryouts pinny? Guess that's the Jesters' influence...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The top guns coach has the worst reputation at the 2027 age, some families will continue to send their kids their to get verbally abused so the parents can say their kid is on an A team. Smarten up families and put your kids in good situations

Yes, they will continue to stay on the team because their girls will have great recruiting opportunities come recruiting year. That sounds pretty smart. TG coaches have been around for many years and know the game and process better than many other coaches. They have a proven track record. You are greatly exaggerating the “abuse” and just sound like a disgruntled parent whose daughter was cut or benched.

I don't have a kid on a LI team but we've played TG 27 a few teams, the coach is out of control and shouldn't be around those kids. Just my perspective from watching him put his own girls in tears during games.

Lol, make up another story. Just unbelievable! Let it go! Be happy on your new team and stop obsessing over TG.

Make up another story? Are you a TG parent? If so, you know the behavior, its on for display. No one obsessing over TG, esp those not in LI.

Agree with thr coach yelling…the team is notorious for yelling coaches. Every age group unfortunately.

I was a topguns parent. It was the best thing to happen to my daughter. I can’t say enough good things about tue organization. Every coach has been amazing and Shannon Smith runs the best club on Long Island hands down. That doesn’t take away from the fact that AS should not be around young children. It is not healthy for young girls to be verbally beat down all season. That is a fact.

The coach is trying to make the girls the best. The negative comments on this site about him have to be from other teams not wanting to lose players. The team is good. The coach is tough but a great coach. If you want someone not giving your kids any feedback or pushing them I’m sure there are plenty of other teams out there for them.

plenty of great teams with positive coaching that will get these girls opportunities to play in college if they want to. Most of these girls can careless if they play college lacrosse, it’s the parents pushing it for them to help with their country club poolside conversations. The ones that really want to play in college know their worth and likely left that poor environment, also know it’s not acceptable in life to be treated that way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The coach is trying to make the girls the best. The negative comments on this site about him have to be from other teams not wanting to lose players. The team is good. The coach is tough but a great coach. If you want someone not giving your kids any feedback or pushing them I’m sure there are plenty of other teams out there for them.

My older daughter had AS as a coach. He was great! His toughness inspired my daughter to play better and led to her having lots of recruiting choices and ability to play for her #1 choice. TG as an organization is awesome as long as your daughter is willing to be coachable and give 100%

Comparing of Tuitions for 23/24 Clubs Season
Including Fall,Winter Training and Summer

LI Top Guns
LI Yellow Jackets
Legacy
Jesters
Liberty
Elevate

feel free to add on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Comparing of Tuitions for 23/24 Clubs Season
Including Fall,Winter Training and Summer

LI Top Guns
LI Yellow Jackets
Legacy
Jesters
Liberty
Elevate

feel free to add on

Hard to do apples to apples comparison. several clubs do fall a la carte. others have winter training a la carte. some do 3 summer tourneys, others do as many as 6.

Apples to Oranges works also.
2 Fall - 4 to 5 Summer tourneys

Elevate is obsolete

If you’re shopping clubs going into 9th grade good luck.

Lots of movement on the island though… Jesters got very good players from FLG, tradition, and liberty.

Agreed. Jesters looking strongest

Every team has try outs Al the way up to 2025. Please stop.

How many girls are going to be on the roster at Jesters?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Jesters looking strongest

Meh not so sure about that

OK, How about what is club, what is included and how much?

YJ still the cream of the crop in NY hands down.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Jesters looking strongest

Meh not so sure about that

LOL. Lost 3-2 to the YJ and beat Aces in 2022. Now they have the goalie. From what I heard the one that never should have left in the first place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Jesters looking strongest

Meh not so sure about that

LOL. Lost 3-2 to the YJ and beat Aces in 2022. Now they have the goalie. From what I heard the one that never should have left in the first place.

Who did jesters get from flg other than goalie? Positionally

Has to be 25 or 26

Seems like all talented girls from Tradition and FLG moved to Jesters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ still the cream of the crop in NY hands down.

Haha. YJA tried to recruit all the talent that went to Jesters and failed. Jesters stronger than ever. Will be interesting year to say the least.

If lots of FLG and tradition went to jesters…..where did all the jesters A kids go? I guess they got moved down.

Jesters get 2 mids and 1 attack from FLG all played varsity last year, 2 mids from Tradition, and the star liberty girl.

Think players and families realize what yellow jackets are all about, makes sense that they would choose Jesters. Bringing 8 or 9 great players aboard at this age is impressive. Also, FLG should have focused on their coaching, going to be a shell of what they were. Did Tradition fold at this age? What happened? Always viewed them as a strong team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has to be 25 or 26

why is it so hard to hit 'quote' before you reply so we know what you are talking about....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters get 2 mids and 1 attack from FLG all played varsity last year, 2 mids from Tradition, and the star liberty girl.

On Liberty dad. Hope you got it in writing how much playing time your star will get. She may not be the star on Jesters. I am sure the liberty parents are happy to see her go.

Where did FLG backfill its roster from? Will it still be an A team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where did FLG backfill its roster from? Will it still be an A team?

It will be called an A team. But as the top girls from each team move to the stronger club all the 2nd teams get worse. This is when the B (C and D for Jesters) become nothing more than a cash cow for the club. Those teams get so so coaching and enter crappy tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where did FLG backfill its roster from? Will it still be an A team?

How many players did they lose?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where did FLG backfill its roster from? Will it still be an A team?

very unlikely

]Where did FLG backfill its roster from? Will it still be an A team?

It will be called an A team. But as the top girls from each team move to the stronger club all the 2nd teams get worse. This is when the B (C and D for Jesters) become nothing more than a cash cow for the club. Those teams get so so coaching and enter crappy tournaments.[/quote]

Why would anyone think the jesters Blue- B teams are above any other B team. The 27’s are ranked in the 90’s. The 28’s are ranked in the 130’s which is significantly lower than many B teams who’s club only has 2 teams not 4 like the jesters!

Jesters Blue picked up some quality players because of all the movement

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters Blue picked up some quality players because of all the movement

Hoping there is more of a focus on developing these Blue teams… they now have Blue teams for:

2026
2027
2028
2029
2030

2 or 3 of these are new I believe. YJ B teams are typically better than average and given that some of these years are bigger classes than most, would think that a few of these blue teams would be good. I can see the argument of Jesters being a cash cow given the amount of teams… but can also see the argument, maybe I’m being optimistic, of them developing girls on Blue to move to Black ( and white, pink to blue and black. Think they are trending upward… so much so that girls from lax towns have made the move… hopefully they don’t fumble some of the goodwill they seem to be building.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Jesters looking strongest

Meh not so sure about that

LOL. Lost 3-2 to the YJ and beat Aces in 2022. Now they have the goalie. From what I heard the one that never should have left in the first place.

Who did jesters get from flg other than goalie? Positionally

Why did so many leave flg? Top 15 team, small roster, lots of playing time. Doesn’t make sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Jesters looking strongest

Meh not so sure about that

LOL. Lost 3-2 to the YJ and beat Aces in 2022. Now they have the goalie. From what I heard the one that never should have left in the first place.

Who did jesters get from flg other than goalie? Positionally

Why did so many leave flg? Top 15 team, small roster, lots of playing time. Doesn’t make sense.

jesters Tier 1 tournaments most likely

Players liked coach. Club replaced coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed. Jesters looking strongest

Meh not so sure about that

LOL. Lost 3-2 to the YJ and beat Aces in 2022. Now they have the goalie. From what I heard the one that never should have left in the first place.

Who did jesters get from flg other than goalie? Positionally

Why did so many leave flg? Top 15 team, small roster, lots of playing time. Doesn’t make sense.

Pretty simple. They don't play in big recruiting tourneys -- Chesapeake, Lax For the Cure, G8, Summer Genesis, etc.. Surprised it took this long.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters Blue picked up some quality players because of all the movement

Hoping there is more of a focus on developing these Blue teams… they now have Blue teams for:

2026
2027
2028
2029
2030

2 or 3 of these are new I believe. YJ B teams are typically better than average and given that some of these years are bigger classes than most, would think that a few of these blue teams would be good. I can see the argument of Jesters being a cash cow given the amount of teams… but can also see the argument, maybe I’m being optimistic, of them developing girls on Blue to move to Black ( and white, pink to blue and black. Think they are trending upward… so much so that girls from lax towns have made the move… hopefully they don’t fumble some of the goodwill they seem to be building.

The problem with Jesters Blue teams (and top guns purple) is that they play in the lowest possible division in tourneys. usually blow out glorified rec teams then lose 8-0 in playoffs to the #1 seed in a 20 minute game.

If Jesters was smart, they would play these division in more competitive division to let the girls get exposed to better competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters get 2 mids and 1 attack from FLG all played varsity last year, 2 mids from Tradition, and the star liberty girl.

On Liberty dad. Hope you got it in writing how much playing time your star will get. She may not be the star on Jesters. I am sure the liberty parents are happy to see her go.

So anyone have a guess to what will happen to the Liberty teams with the buyout? $3200-$3700 sounds like alot to pay going into some uncertainty with new owners. What, if anything, have people been told/reassured? Recruiting year not to far away. What will Danielle G's involvement be moving forward?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters Blue picked up some quality players because of all the movement

Hoping there is more of a focus on developing these Blue teams… they now have Blue teams for:

2026
2027
2028
2029
2030

2 or 3 of these are new I believe. YJ B teams are typically better than average and given that some of these years are bigger classes than most, would think that a few of these blue teams would be good. I can see the argument of Jesters being a cash cow given the amount of teams… but can also see the argument, maybe I’m being optimistic, of them developing girls on Blue to move to Black ( and white, pink to blue and black. Think they are trending upward… so much so that girls from lax towns have made the move… hopefully they don’t fumble some of the goodwill they seem to be building.

They aren’t investing in developing teams that are ranked 90 or 120. These teams will never get into a competitive division. Kids can find a team to play on in college from one of these teams if they want to but it won’t be a high D1 program. Evaluate what you are hoping to get out of it. Will be interesting if they demoted girls on the blue team. If your kid didn’t play much last year and they picked up talent this year prepare for your daughter to ride the bench!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ still the cream of the crop in NY hands down.

Haha. YJA tried to recruit all the talent that went to Jesters and failed. Jesters stronger than ever. Will be interesting year to say the least.

Says who? Any of your daughters would love to be on YJA. Best players and coaches

most kids don’t want the high end D1 exposure that these so called elite clubs are chasing, most just want to be kids, not spending every weekend in June and July on the field. Many great players will decide D2, D3, lower D1, club or not to play in college, this is reality. If the team is a good fit, stop focusing on the club rankings and focus on your daughters happiness/development, these are critical years. The parents want this more than the kid for their ego, these fool parents know who they are.

Black, Blue, Purple, A, B, C…. Go tell the 2nd Yellow Jackets team that they are a B team, they will beat most easily. I’d guess Top Guns and Jesters pushing for similar success with their 2nd teams.

[quote=Anonymous]Players liked coach. Club replaced coach.

Regardless if all, many, or some of the players liked the coach that coach and style of play was doing a disservice to the players and a D2 college coach was called on as the replacement which was a good move for those on the outside looking in. There must be some other reasons including not playing in a majority of the important recruiting tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters Blue picked up some quality players because of all the movement

Hoping there is more of a focus on developing these Blue teams… they now have Blue teams for:

2026
2027
2028
2029
2030

2 or 3 of these are new I believe. YJ B teams are typically better than average and given that some of these years are bigger classes than most, would think that a few of these blue teams would be good. I can see the argument of Jesters being a cash cow given the amount of teams… but can also see the argument, maybe I’m being optimistic, of them developing girls on Blue to move to Black ( and white, pink to blue and black. Think they are trending upward… so much so that girls from lax towns have made the move… hopefully they don’t fumble some of the goodwill they seem to be building.

They aren’t investing in developing teams that are ranked 90 or 120. These teams will never get into a competitive division. Kids can find a team to play on in college from one of these teams if they want to but it won’t be a high D1 program. Evaluate what you are hoping to get out of it. Will be interesting if they demoted girls on the blue team. If your kid didn’t play much last year and they picked up talent this year prepare for your daughter to ride the bench!

Still 13 years old at this point….

Yellow Jacket coaches out in force on this site

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ still the cream of the crop in NY hands down.

Haha. YJA tried to recruit all the talent that went to Jesters and failed. Jesters stronger than ever. Will be interesting year to say the least.

Says who? Any of your daughters would love to be on YJA. Best players and coaches

best coaches....that's hilarious

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Black, Blue, Purple, A, B, C…. Go tell the 2nd Yellow Jackets team that they are a B team, they will beat most easily. I’d guess Top Guns and Jesters pushing for similar success with their 2nd teams.

This seems to be the goal as they have made a clear effort with this Blue team designation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters Blue picked up some quality players because of all the movement

Hoping there is more of a focus on developing these Blue teams… they now have Blue teams for:

2026
2027
2028
2029
2030

2 or 3 of these are new I believe. YJ B teams are typically better than average and given that some of these years are bigger classes than most, would think that a few of these blue teams would be good. I can see the argument of Jesters being a cash cow given the amount of teams… but can also see the argument, maybe I’m being optimistic, of them developing girls on Blue to move to Black ( and white, pink to blue and black. Think they are trending upward… so much so that girls from lax towns have made the move… hopefully they don’t fumble some of the goodwill they seem to be building.

They aren’t investing in developing teams that are ranked 90 or 120. These teams will never get into a competitive division. Kids can find a team to play on in college from one of these teams if they want to but it won’t be a high D1 program. Evaluate what you are hoping to get out of it. Will be interesting if they demoted girls on the blue team. If your kid didn’t play much last year and they picked up talent this year prepare for your daughter to ride the bench!

Still 13 years old at this point….

Yes, but recruiting starts in 2 years. If your daughters goal is to play in college then they should be on a team with good training and coaches. They shouldn’t be riding the bench.

So now that tryouts are over, which clubs were the biggest winners/losers?

Who stayed/ left on Liberty with all the uncertainty in that program?

I’m told a few girls on FLG loved the coach however others really disliked her. The coach had a huge almost unprofessional problem with favoritism. Most girls left because they weren’t winning, they were in top tournaments and brackets but in the last two tournaments they went 1-3 in both tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So now that tryouts are over, which clubs were the biggest winners/losers?

YJA-- Pretty much status quo, will still be the team to beat on LI and top 5 nationally.
Jesters Black -- biggest winners probably, lots of good pickups, definite a top 2 team going forward; will be interested to see how some new additions fit into their scheme, especially those who have never played zone before
Top Guns -- Picked up a few nice girls from Liberty, Tradition, YJB; probably the 3 club going forward
Liberty -- picked up some nice girls, probably best of best
YJB -- lost best player, but pretty much the same team.
FLG -- biggest lost by far; picked a couple liberty girls but didn't come close to closing the gap, probably won't even be top 40 next year
Tradition -- lost some top talent , definitely a net lost.
Jesters Blue -- definitely a winner. not sure how high is high, but petty much turned over 75% of roster. has potential to be top 40-50 nationally

Amazing how one person knows every teams roster, impressive

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Amazing how one person knows every teams roster, impressive

You do realize that before a girl accepts an offer on a new team, the girls and parents talk amongst themselves to see who will be there, who is leaving, etc.

I may have missed some moves, but feeling like the summary above is pretty on the money.

Person above predicting ranking, amazing skills. Expert above is curious how new Jesters Black girls fit into their zone…. Lol… How about they picked up great players that will improve the team, let’s assume they know how to play zone if that’s they D played. FLG picked up more than a few Liberty girls, the expert above though knows all the talent and said it won’t be enough to close the gap….. Expert above says YJB lost their best player but the same team?? Ok. Tradition net loss, well yeah of course; Jesters Blue 75% turn? They have the roster? Look forward to hearing more from the 2027 Girls expert

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So now that tryouts are over, which clubs were the biggest winners/losers?

YJA-- Pretty much status quo, will still be the team to beat on LI and top 5 nationally.
Jesters Black -- biggest winners probably, lots of good pickups, definite a top 2 team going forward; will be interested to see how some new additions fit into their scheme, especially those who have never played zone before
Top Guns -- Picked up a few nice girls from Liberty, Tradition, YJB; probably the 3 club going forward
Liberty -- picked up some nice girls, probably best of best
YJB -- lost best player, but pretty much the same team.
FLG -- biggest lost by far; picked a couple liberty girls but didn't come close to closing the gap, probably won't even be top 40 next year
Tradition -- lost some top talent , definitely a net lost.
Jesters Blue -- definitely a winner. not sure how high is high, but petty much turned over 75% of roster. has potential to be top 40-50 nationally

2031 parent here. So this is 8th going into 9th grade I believe? Is this pretty much last year that for this much roster shifting? Just trying to figure out when the best time to make a move

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So now that tryouts are over, which clubs were the biggest winners/losers?

YJA-- Pretty much status quo, will still be the team to beat on LI and top 5 nationally.
Jesters Black -- biggest winners probably, lots of good pickups, definite a top 2 team going forward; will be interested to see how some new additions fit into their scheme, especially those who have never played zone before
Top Guns -- Picked up a few nice girls from Liberty, Tradition, YJB; probably the 3 club going forward
Liberty -- picked up some nice girls, probably best of best
YJB -- lost best player, but pretty much the same team.
FLG -- biggest lost by far; picked a couple liberty girls but didn't come close to closing the gap, probably won't even be top 40 next year
Tradition -- lost some top talent , definitely a net lost.
Jesters Blue -- definitely a winner. not sure how high is high, but petty much turned over 75% of roster. has potential to be top 40-50 nationally

Where did Jesters blue get all these new talented girls from? Where did the girls that left go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So now that tryouts are over, which clubs were the biggest winners/losers?

YJA-- Pretty much status quo, will still be the team to beat on LI and top 5 nationally.
Jesters Black -- biggest winners probably, lots of good pickups, definite a top 2 team going forward; will be interested to see how some new additions fit into their scheme, especially those who have never played zone before
Top Guns -- Picked up a few nice girls from Liberty, Tradition, YJB; probably the 3 club going forward
Liberty -- picked up some nice girls, probably best of best
YJB -- lost best player, but pretty much the same team.
FLG -- biggest lost by far; picked a couple liberty girls but didn't come close to closing the gap, probably won't even be top 40 next year
Tradition -- lost some top talent , definitely a net lost.
Jesters Blue -- definitely a winner. not sure how high is high, but petty much turned over 75% of roster. has potential to be top 40-50 nationally

Where did Jesters blue get all these new talented girls from? Where did the girls that left go?

Mostly cuts from A level teams

How is Empire? Where do they practice?

Jesters is a real good team, esp defense with their zone certainly messes up offense, but imo their biggest need was more offensive weapons.

They picked up offensive weapons- Tradition players as well as Libertys best player among others

Picked up FLG’s best players also. Going to be a difficult squad to coach. Parents counting the minutes of playing time on the sideline for sure.

So how many of last seasons jesters black got cut or moved to a different club? Sounds like they are a team of rockstars. Parents and new star players will not be happy with playing time if they didn’t get rid of a lot of the original team? From these comments it sounds like they added 10 new superstars

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picked up FLG’s best players also. Going to be a difficult squad to coach. Parents counting the minutes of playing time on the sideline for sure.

I'm a YJ parent , but Jesters have a great coach. probably best on LI at this age group. Understands the game, treats girls well and most importantly doesn't take [Censored] from anyone.

Believe me, the first parent to complain about playing time will likely see their daughter on the bench for some time.

They will likely make sure everyone plays in 2 years during recruiting, however, next year there will definitely be some girls, including new ones, on the outside looking in.

They carry 21 total.

Jesters imploding this year will be entertaining

So they only cut a few, picked up a lot and only carry 21?

A lot of parent egos on one team to manage

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picked up FLG’s best players also. Going to be a difficult squad to coach. Parents counting the minutes of playing time on the sideline for sure.

FLG’s best players remained with FLG.

Where did the Tradition girls are 2 coaches go? Do they still have a team?

Keep telling yourself that FLG dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters imploding this year will be entertaining

What makes you say that? Team has improved year after year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picked up FLG’s best players also. Going to be a difficult squad to coach. Parents counting the minutes of playing time on the sideline for sure.

I'm a YJ parent , but Jesters have a great coach. probably best on LI at this age group. Understands the game, treats girls well and most importantly doesn't take [Censored] from anyone.

Believe me, the first parent to complain about playing time will likely see their daughter on the bench for some time.

They will likely make sure everyone plays in 2 years during recruiting, however, next year there will definitely be some girls, including new ones, on the outside looking in.

Sounds like that coach will have their work cut out for them managing the parents who want to control everything. If they picked up so many "amazing" players, where did half the Black team go?

Does anybody know where the results for the YJ tryouts are posted? Nassau tryouts were yesterday and trying to find out how we will be (or should have been) notified. I’m guessing e-mail?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is Empire? Where do they practice?

A or B? A team is fine not great . The B team is a mess with subpar coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picked up FLG’s best players also. Going to be a difficult squad to coach. Parents counting the minutes of playing time on the sideline for sure.

I'm a YJ parent , but Jesters have a great coach. probably best on LI at this age group. Understands the game, treats girls well and most importantly doesn't take [Censored] from anyone.

Believe me, the first parent to complain about playing time will likely see their daughter on the bench for some time.

They will likely make sure everyone plays in 2 years during recruiting, however, next year there will definitely be some girls, including new ones, on the outside looking in.

Sounds like that coach will have their work cut out for them managing the parents who want to control everything. If they picked up so many "amazing" players, where did half the Black team go?

Team has great parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know where the results for the YJ tryouts are posted? Nassau tryouts were yesterday and trying to find out how we will be (or should have been) notified. I’m guessing e-mail?

Email

Is the top guns b 2027 team any good?

How are the top guns 2027 goalies?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picked up FLG’s best players also. Going to be a difficult squad to coach. Parents counting the minutes of playing time on the sideline for sure.

I'm a YJ parent , but Jesters have a great coach. probably best on LI at this age group. Understands the game, treats girls well and most importantly doesn't take [Censored] from anyone.

Believe me, the first parent to complain about playing time will likely see their daughter on the bench for some time.

They will likely make sure everyone plays in 2 years during recruiting, however, next year there will definitely be some girls, including new ones, on the outside looking in.

Sounds like that coach will have their work cut out for them managing the parents who want to control everything. If they picked up so many "amazing" players, where did half the Black team go?

Team has great parents.

Great until you don’t play their daughter the entire game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picked up FLG’s best players also. Going to be a difficult squad to coach. Parents counting the minutes of playing time on the sideline for sure.

I'm a YJ parent , but Jesters have a great coach. probably best on LI at this age group. Understands the game, treats girls well and most importantly doesn't take [Censored] from anyone.

Believe me, the first parent to complain about playing time will likely see their daughter on the bench for some time.

They will likely make sure everyone plays in 2 years during recruiting, however, next year there will definitely be some girls, including new ones, on the outside looking in.

Sounds like that coach will have their work cut out for them managing the parents who want to control everything. If they picked up so many "amazing" players, where did half the Black team go?

Team has great parents.

Great until you don’t play their daughter the entire game

Always great when people comment about a team they know nothing about

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are the top guns 2027 goalies?

Two very solid goalies on black

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are the top guns 2027 goalies?

very good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are the top guns 2027 goalies?

very good

Thanks for answering your own question mom

Tradition coaches went to FLG?

Lots of talent spread out this tryout season, choosing playing time over sitting the bench on an AA team. You still have a handful of players on the top AA teams that will not see the field, but parents have AA team envy and choose that situation for their kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of talent spread out this tryout season, choosing playing time over sitting the bench on an AA team. You still have a handful of players on the top AA teams that will not see the field, but parents have AA team envy and choose that situation for their kid.

Most teams will go to equal playing time by Fall 2024 when recruiting starts. Even if you aren't playing much this year, getting on a high visibility club this year could be the right move.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of talent spread out this tryout season, choosing playing time over sitting the bench on an AA team. You still have a handful of players on the top AA teams that will not see the field, but parents have AA team envy and choose that situation for their kid.

no such thing as an AA team

TOP GUNS B TEAM IS VERY SOLID, WITH A GREAT GROUP OF GIRLS AND PARENTS,

That parent feels strongly, all caps! I’ve seen them play, seem solid. They are the Purple Team, not the B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of talent spread out this tryout season, choosing playing time over sitting the bench on an AA team. You still have a handful of players on the top AA teams that will not see the field, but parents have AA team envy and choose that situation for their kid.

Most teams will go to equal playing time by Fall 2024 when recruiting starts. Even if you aren't playing much this year, getting on a high visibility club this year could be the right move.

Which clubs are the high visibility clubs? And which clubd are not?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of talent spread out this tryout season, choosing playing time over sitting the bench on an AA team. You still have a handful of players on the top AA teams that will not see the field, but parents have AA team envy and choose that situation for their kid.

Most teams will go to equal playing time by Fall 2024 when recruiting starts. Even if you aren't playing much this year, getting on a high visibility club this year could be the right move.

Which clubs are the high visibility clubs? And which clubd are not?

The ones that play in top 3 brackets of big tourneys -- YJ, TG, Jesters and (in some years) Legacy.

Hahaha. More than the top 3 brackets get looks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where did FLG backfill its roster from? Will it still be an A team?

How many players did they lose?

9

FLG picked up plenty of talent

FLG new coach and improved talent,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG new coach and improved talent,

hahah they did not - stop

Does Tradition still exist at this age?

Tradition coaches” kids left for Jesters and YJA. Rest of the team had to find a new clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tradition coaches went to FLG?

Tradition needs a change in strategy and needs to open up the club to non GC residents. Still have great teams at each age group.

One Tradition coach joining the Jesters staff with a few of their best players. Should be an entertaining season. Top Guns team to beat this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One Tradition coach joining the Jesters staff with a few of their best players. Should be an entertaining season. Top Guns team to beat this year

Wonder how existing Jesters families feel about a new coach with players coming in ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One Tradition coach joining the Jesters staff with a few of their best players. Should be an entertaining season. Top Guns team to beat this year

Wonder how existing Jesters families feel about a new coach with players coming in ?

Same coach there. Who did TG pick up that makes them the team to beat?

Isn’t that normal in high level travel lacrosse?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Isn’t that normal in high level travel lacrosse?

hit the quote button so we know what you are talking about - isn't what normal?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lots of talent spread out this tryout season, choosing playing time over sitting the bench on an AA team. You still have a handful of players on the top AA teams that will not see the field, but parents have AA team envy and choose that situation for their kid.

Most teams will go to equal playing time by Fall 2024 when recruiting starts. Even if you aren't playing much this year, getting on a high visibility club this year could be the right move.

Which clubs are the high visibility clubs? And which clubd are not?

More important than high visibility tournaments, pick the schools of interest, let your recruiting director know early and go to prospect days.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One Tradition coach joining the Jesters staff with a few of their best players. Should be an entertaining season. Top Guns team to beat this year

Wonder how existing Jesters families feel about a new coach with players coming in ?

thank them for the early life lesson?

Why did so many kids leave?

Other clubs position them better for recruiting

So what’s everyone paying this year for club?

You people pay?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

One Tradition coach joining the Jesters staff with a few of their best players. Should be an entertaining season. Top Guns team to beat this year

Which team is he going to?

Haven’t paid in years, top kids don’t pay

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people pay?

You must coach your daughter’s team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Haven’t paid in years, top kids don’t pay

Ok troll

Empire people pay

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You people pay?

You must coach your daughter’s team

Ive heard lower tier clubs let their goalie play for free…thats prob what this parent referring to? Idk

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

Good luck. Great trainer. Terrible coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

so obviously stirring the pot....if you are new to TG talk to the parents on the team - don't post randomly on BOTC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.

They will if they follow the advice of the coach. Proven record of getting girls into top notch schools. Worked out great for my older daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.

They will if they follow the advice of the coach. Proven record of getting girls into top notch schools. Worked out great for my older daughter.

Genius !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.

They will if they follow the advice of the coach. Proven record of getting girls into top notch schools. Worked out great for my older daughter.

Ummm. did you see their 2024 commits?

Only 2 girls to top 25 schools -- Maryland and StonyBrook.

Most of the rest to lower tier schools both academically and athletically -- Hofstra, Elon, Wagner, FDU, Sacred Heart, FDU, LIU, Marist

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.

They will if they follow the advice of the coach. Proven record of getting girls into top notch schools. Worked out great for my older daughter.

Ummm. did you see their 2024 commits?

Only 2 girls to top 25 schools -- Maryland and StonyBrook.

Most of the rest to lower tier schools both academically and athletically -- Hofstra, Elon, Wagner, FDU, Sacred Heart, FDU, LIU, Marist

How do you find that out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.

They will if they follow the advice of the coach. Proven record of getting girls into top notch schools. Worked out great for my older daughter.

Ummm. did you see their 2024 commits?

Only 2 girls to top 25 schools -- Maryland and StonyBrook.

Most of the rest to lower tier schools both academically and athletically -- Hofstra, Elon, Wagner, FDU, Sacred Heart, FDU, LIU, Marist

Did you see there ‘23s heading to the best of the best in a couple weeks. AS the coach. Work hard, good things will happen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.

They will if they follow the advice of the coach. Proven record of getting girls into top notch schools. Worked out great for my older daughter.

Ummm. did you see their 2024 commits?

Only 2 girls to top 25 schools -- Maryland and StonyBrook.

Most of the rest to lower tier schools both academically and athletically -- Hofstra, Elon, Wagner, FDU, Sacred Heart, FDU, LIU, Marist

How do you find that out.

Its all Publix on lax numbers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.

They will if they follow the advice of the coach. Proven record of getting girls into top notch schools. Worked out great for my older daughter.

Ummm. did you see their 2024 commits?

Only 2 girls to top 25 schools -- Maryland and StonyBrook.

Most of the rest to lower tier schools both academically and athletically -- Hofstra, Elon, Wagner, FDU, Sacred Heart, FDU, LIU, Marist

How do you find that out.

Its all Publix on lax numbers

Yellow jackets commits are lackluster. I’m surprised. Maybe I’m missing something. Or site lists it under another name.

Top 10 programs warehouse kids w rosters of 40-50 who otherwise have productive careers at other schools. They don't want you to play somewhere else so sell u the name w little compensation. Don't be on the team, be able to say I play for..... don't get amazoned 😂😂

Agree and we are seeing it happen to too many players. My kid wants to play in college, not sit on the bench of a top 20 program and pretend she is happy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.

They will if they follow the advice of the coach. Proven record of getting girls into top notch schools. Worked out great for my older daughter.

Ummm. did you see their 2024 commits?

Only 2 girls to top 25 schools -- Maryland and StonyBrook.

Most of the rest to lower tier schools both academically and athletically -- Hofstra, Elon, Wagner, FDU, Sacred Heart, FDU, LIU, Marist

How do you find that out.

Its all Publix on lax numbers

Yellow jackets commits are lackluster. I’m surprised. Maybe I’m missing something. Or site lists it under another name.

they are li elite on that site

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.[/quote]

They will if they follow the advice of the coach. Proven record of getting girls into top notch schools. Worked out great for my older daughter.[/quote]

Ummm. did you see their 2024 commits?

Only 2 girls to top 25 schools -- Maryland and StonyBrook.

Most of the rest to lower tier schools both academically and athletically -- Hofstra, Elon, Wagner, FDU, Sacred Heart, FDU, LIU, Marist[/quote]

Did you see there ‘23s heading to the best of the best in a couple weeks. AS the coach. Work hard, good things will happen[/quote]

TG 2023 were the number 1 team in the country. Of course they were going to have girls going to the most Top 20 schools. The 2024’s barley could beat high level B teams and lost to any top ranked A team. There best 2024 on that team played on the 2023 team most of her club career till recruitment. The 2027 black team is on track to being a replica of the 24’s so please tell me how AS is gonna get them into top schools on the next level. As far as training he is a good coach but you pay him for all this training on the side. If your daughter can not handle constant yelling and being told after games that her team [Censored] and being berated for 20 minutes after every loss then you better rethink your choice. Don’t let these TG people tell you she’s going to a top school based on the 23’s success they were a special group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.

They will if they follow the advice of the coach. Proven record of getting girls into top notch schools. Worked out great for my older daughter.[/quote]

Ummm. did you see their 2024 commits?

Only 2 girls to top 25 schools -- Maryland and StonyBrook.

Most of the rest to lower tier schools both academically and athletically -- Hofstra, Elon, Wagner, FDU, Sacred Heart, FDU, LIU, Marist[/quote]

Did you see there ‘23s heading to the best of the best in a couple weeks. AS the coach. Work hard, good things will happen[/quote]

TG 2023 were the number 1 team in the country. Of course they were going to have girls going to the most Top 20 schools. The 2024’s barley could beat high level B teams and lost to any top ranked A team. There best 2024 on that team played on the 2023 team most of her club career till recruitment. The 2027 black team is on track to being a replica of the 24’s so please tell me how AS is gonna get them into top schools on the next level. As far as training he is a good coach but you pay him for all this training on the side. If your daughter can not handle constant yelling and being told after games that her team [Censored] and being berated for 20 minutes after every loss then you better rethink your choice. Don’t let these TG people tell you she’s going to a top school based on the 23’s success they were a special group.[/quote]

So what are you saying. TG 24’s were ranked around 20. You can’t get into a strong academic school playing lacrosse on a team ranked in the 20’s?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I’m new to TG and don’t really come on here much. I’m reading these posts about the coach. My daughter can handle yelling but killing confidence is different. Does he really belittle the girls?

No, pot stirrer whose daughter was cut and likes to exaggerate. If your daughter works hard and is coachable, she will do great. Pretty much like anywhere else. My daughter has been with TG for over five years. AS is her coach. He truly cares about the girls, and pretty much every girl on my daughters team is going to play in college at a great school. Keep in mind that there are unhappy people on all teams. Good luck!

You must be a lacrosse genius to be able to know already that the 13-14 yr olds on the team will all play college ball at a great school.

They will if they follow the advice of the coach. Proven record of getting girls into top notch schools. Worked out great for my older daughter.

Ummm. did you see their 2024 commits?

Only 2 girls to top 25 schools -- Maryland and StonyBrook.

Most of the rest to lower tier schools both academically and athletically -- Hofstra, Elon, Wagner, FDU, Sacred Heart, FDU, LIU, Marist[/quote]

Did you see there ‘23s heading to the best of the best in a couple weeks. AS the coach. Work hard, good things will happen[/quote]

TG 2023 were the number 1 team in the country. Of course they were going to have girls going to the most Top 20 schools. The 2024’s barley could beat high level B teams and lost to any top ranked A team. There best 2024 on that team played on the 2023 team most of her club career till recruitment. The 2027 black team is on track to being a replica of the 24’s so please tell me how AS is gonna get them into top schools on the next level. As far as training he is a good coach but you pay him for all this training on the side. If your daughter can not handle constant yelling and being told after games that her team [Censored] and being berated for 20 minutes after every loss then you better rethink your choice. Don’t let these TG people tell you she’s going to a top school based on the 23’s success they were a special group.[/quote]

So what are you saying. TG 24’s were ranked around 20. You can’t get into a strong academic school playing lacrosse on a team ranked in the 20’s?[/quote]

If history is a guide, for A teams ranked between 20 and 35 or so, these are what you typically see in terms of recruiting. I would expect TG to do similar for their 2027 team.

2-3 girls going to top 25 programs
5-7 girls going to next level 20-60 programs
2-3 girls going to low D1 programs (think MAC, Big South, Northeast)
3-4 girls going to NESCAC or high-quality D3
The rest going to D2 or lower level D3

Look at teams final rankings and it's pretty consistent.

Sometimes West coast, south or midwest clubs may have a few more towards the top and a few more who don't play at all since their rosters tend to be more top-heavy. CT clubs may do a little better since they often have mostly girls who aren't looking for any $$ at all.

B teams like YJB, Heros White, M&D Red may not have any top 25 girls, but will have lots of second-tier lacrosse schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Picked up FLG’s best players also. Going to be a difficult squad to coach. Parents counting the minutes of playing time on the sideline for sure.

FLG’s best players remained with FLG.

Simply not true. Lost top offensive and defensive weapons. Hopefully new coaching staff can turn things around for this group so they can remain competitive. We need more good teams on LI, not less.

Ummm. did you see their 2024 commits?

Only 2 girls to top 25 schools -- Maryland and StonyBrook.

Most of the rest to lower tier schools both academically and athletically -- Hofstra, Elon, Wagner, FDU, Sacred Heart, FDU, LIU, Marist[/quote]

Ummm. Ever think it was their choice to go to those “lower tier” schools for one reason or another? I can’t stand when people belittle college choices.

Best players according to their parents, reality FLG best offensive players stayed.

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If history is a guide, for A teams ranked between 20 and 35 or so, these are what you typically see in terms of recruiting. I would expect TG to do similar for their 2027 team.

2-3 girls going to top 25 programs
5-7 girls going to next level 20-60 programs
2-3 girls going to low D1 programs (think MAC, Big South, Northeast)
3-4 girls going to NESCAC or high-quality D3
The rest going to D2 or lower level D3

Look at teams final rankings and it's pretty consistent.

Sometimes West coast, south or midwest clubs may have a few more towards the top and a few more who don't play at all since their rosters tend to be more top-heavy. CT clubs may do a little better since they often have mostly girls who aren't looking for any $$ at all.

B teams like YJB, Heros White, M&D Red may not have any top 25 girls, but will have lots of second-tier lacrosse schools.

Just curious by your calculations/judgement on team ranking what would you expect generally speaking if team is in the 7-15 range?

Who cares about FLG. They are done.

Up and coming teams. Lax On

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares about FLG. They are done.

Up and coming teams. Lax On

Haha, lax on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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If history is a guide, for A teams ranked between 20 and 35 or so, these are what you typically see in terms of recruiting. I would expect TG to do similar for their 2027 team.

2-3 girls going to top 25 programs
5-7 girls going to next level 20-60 programs
2-3 girls going to low D1 programs (think MAC, Big South, Northeast)
3-4 girls going to NESCAC or high-quality D3
The rest going to D2 or lower level D3

Look at teams final rankings and it's pretty consistent.

Sometimes West coast, south or midwest clubs may have a few more towards the top and a few more who don't play at all since their rosters tend to be more top-heavy. CT clubs may do a little better since they often have mostly girls who aren't looking for any $$ at all.

B teams like YJB, Heros White, M&D Red may not have any top 25 girls, but will have lots of second-tier lacrosse schools.

Just curious by your calculations/judgement on team ranking what would you expect generally speaking if team is in the 7-15 range?

There is usually a pretty big gap between 7 and 15 in terms of recruiting. 7 are usually loaded across the entire roster while teams around 15 can be top heavy with a few stars or have talent more spread out with lots of depth.

That said, here is my take for an east coast team ranked in the middle of that range.

4-6 girls going to top 25 programs or Ivies
6-10 girls going to next level 25-60 programs
The rest of roster going to high D3 or low non-scholarship D1

Even the top teams only have 6-9 girls going to big time program. Great example is YJ Spallina, one of the best club teams in the past 5 years. They will still have some starters who don't go top 25.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best players according to their parents, reality FLG best offensive players stayed.

Isn’t it ironic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

. We need more good teams on LI, not less.

We need more good LI teams, not FEWER.

And apparently we need more good English teachers as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best players according to their parents, reality FLG best offensive players stayed.

Isn’t it ironic.

FLG will remain a top 10 team nationally. Ownership is committed to the program and the team. Those who left have already been replaced by equal or better players.

For reference, here is a list of commitments by club to top 25 clubs based on final rankings.

YJ 14
M&D 11
Capital 10
Monster 9
CT Grizzlies 9
Ultimate PA 8
Salt City Snipers 8
Mass Elite 7
Steps NJ 7
Big 4 HHH 7
Team 180 7
Phantastix 6
LI TopGuns 6
Steps CA 5
PrimeTime 5
SkyWalkers 5
Lakeshore 5
Laxachusetts 5
Team One 4
3D 4

Outside the top 5 or 6 clubs, it is pretty rare for a club to have more than a handful of girls sign to big time programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For reference, here is a list of commitments by club to top 25 clubs based on final rankings.

YJ 14
M&D 11
Capital 10
Monster 9
CT Grizzlies 9
Ultimate PA 8
Salt City Snipers 8
Mass Elite 7
Steps NJ 7
Big 4 HHH 7
Team 180 7
Phantastix 6
LI TopGuns 6
Steps CA 5
PrimeTime 5
SkyWalkers 5
Lakeshore 5
Laxachusetts 5
Team One 4
3D 4

Outside the top 5 or 6 clubs, it is pretty rare for a club to have more than a handful of girls sign to big time programs.

Expecting to see Jesters on that list in the coming year or two

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For reference, here is a list of commitments by club to top 25 clubs based on final rankings.

YJ 14
M&D 11
Capital 10
Monster 9
CT Grizzlies 9
Ultimate PA 8
Salt City Snipers 8
Mass Elite 7
Steps NJ 7
Big 4 HHH 7
Team 180 7
Phantastix 6
LI TopGuns 6
Steps CA 5
PrimeTime 5
SkyWalkers 5
Lakeshore 5
Laxachusetts 5
Team One 4
3D 4

Outside the top 5 or 6 clubs, it is pretty rare for a club to have more than a handful of girls sign to big time programs.

Expecting to see Jesters on that list in the coming year or two

I could see them breaking into the 4 or 5 range potentially with their 2026 class, but to be anywhere near the top of the list is pretty unlikely.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For reference, here is a list of commitments by club to top 25 clubs based on final rankings.

YJ 14
M&D 11
Capital 10
Monster 9
CT Grizzlies 9
Ultimate PA 8
Salt City Snipers 8
Mass Elite 7
Steps NJ 7
Big 4 HHH 7
Team 180 7
Phantastix 6
LI TopGuns 6
Steps CA 5
PrimeTime 5
SkyWalkers 5
Lakeshore 5
Laxachusetts 5
Team One 4
3D 4

Outside the top 5 or 6 clubs, it is pretty rare for a club to have more than a handful of girls sign to big time programs.

Need to remember that lots of girls on this list aren't receiving a dime of academic $$. I know for a fact many of those Capital and Grizzlies girls on top 25 teams are pretty much roster fillers. Lots of LI girls don't have the option to go to a top 25 school and pay full tuition. This is why CT and DC/MD schools will always do better on this list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For reference, here is a list of commitments by club to top 25 clubs based on final rankings.

YJ 14
M&D 11
Capital 10
Monster 9
CT Grizzlies 9
Ultimate PA 8
Salt City Snipers 8
Mass Elite 7
Steps NJ 7
Big 4 HHH 7
Team 180 7
Phantastix 6
LI TopGuns 6
Steps CA 5
PrimeTime 5
SkyWalkers 5
Lakeshore 5
Laxachusetts 5
Team One 4
3D 4

Outside the top 5 or 6 clubs, it is pretty rare for a club to have more than a handful of girls sign to big time programs.

Need to remember that lots of girls on this list aren't receiving a dime of academic $$. I know for a fact many of those Capital and Grizzlies girls on top 25 teams are pretty much roster fillers. Lots of LI girls don't have the option to go to a top 25 school and pay full tuition. This is why CT and DC/MD schools will always do better on this list.

Or…hide your money. If you can get your income down to about 120k, you will get about 60% at an Ivy or top 20 school with big endowment. I know of a few girls who turned down a decent athletic scholarship because they got way more going need based. You will also be a more desirable recruit because they can give the money to someone else. If you have more than one child in college at the same time, you will do even better. Keep in mind that financial aid looks back two years

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For reference, here is a list of commitments by club to top 25 clubs based on final rankings.

YJ 14
M&D 11
Capital 10
Monster 9
CT Grizzlies 9
Ultimate PA 8
Salt City Snipers 8
Mass Elite 7
Steps NJ 7
Big 4 HHH 7
Team 180 7
Phantastix 6
LI TopGuns 6
Steps CA 5
PrimeTime 5
SkyWalkers 5
Lakeshore 5
Laxachusetts 5
Team One 4
3D 4

Outside the top 5 or 6 clubs, it is pretty rare for a club to have more than a handful of girls sign to big time programs.

IS this only for 2024 class?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For reference, here is a list of commitments by club to top 25 clubs based on final rankings.

YJ 14
M&D 11
Capital 10
Monster 9
CT Grizzlies 9
Ultimate PA 8
Salt City Snipers 8
Mass Elite 7
Steps NJ 7
Big 4 HHH 7
Team 180 7
Phantastix 6
LI TopGuns 6
Steps CA 5
PrimeTime 5
SkyWalkers 5
Lakeshore 5
Laxachusetts 5
Team One 4
3D 4

Outside the top 5 or 6 clubs, it is pretty rare for a club to have more than a handful of girls sign to big time programs.

IS this only for 2024 class?

I just pulled data for 2024.

Here are the data for 23s. pretty consistent, except for M&D who only had 2 top 25 commits. (though to be fair, they sent 2 more to Duke)

YJ 11
MA Elite 8
Capital 8
Heros 8
Salt City Snipers 7
STEPS-NJ 7
Monster 7
Big 4 HHH 6
CT Grizzles 5
PrimeTime 5
LI TopGuns 5
NXT 5
Major Force 5
Team 180 4
Skywalkers 4
NH Tomahawks 4
VA Metro 4
Team One 4
Phantastix 4
LI Legacy 4

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For reference, here is a list of commitments by club to top 25 clubs based on final rankings.

YJ 14
M&D 11
Capital 10
Monster 9
CT Grizzlies 9
Ultimate PA 8
Salt City Snipers 8
Mass Elite 7
Steps NJ 7
Big 4 HHH 7
Team 180 7
Phantastix 6
LI TopGuns 6
Steps CA 5
PrimeTime 5
SkyWalkers 5
Lakeshore 5
Laxachusetts 5
Team One 4
3D 4

Outside the top 5 or 6 clubs, it is pretty rare for a club to have more than a handful of girls sign to big time programs.

Expecting to see Jesters on that list in the coming year or two

I could see them breaking into the 4 or 5 range potentially with their 2026 class, but to be anywhere near the top of the list is pretty unlikely.

YJ literally just released on instagram. 63 Commits to division 1… simply wow!

Oh yeah Flg had like 2 commits in 4 years! Jesters maybe has a few in 2 years. Igloo maybe in a decade. You’ll see!

You can get into a strong academic school being ranked 50th. If you’re willing to pay for it.

Jesters had their big run with there 23 class. 15 D1 from the Black team and 2 Ivy and a couple d3. There 27 team is next to watch

yeah, there 27 team sounds good over there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best players according to their parents, reality FLG best offensive players stayed.

Isn’t it ironic.

FLG will remain a top 10 team nationally. Ownership is committed to the program and the team. Those who left have already been replaced by equal or better players.

This poster is obviously disconnected from reality. How can you remain Top 10 nationally if you aren’t even in the Top 10? Using US Lacrosse rankings, lets look at the facts:

FLG is #13.(they dropped in case you missed that..even after all the hype around how great they were)

How did FLG do against the Top 10 who they, according to this poster, should be a part of? They went 2-6. meh.

How did they do against the other teams they played this year? 7-5 against non top 10 teams. More meh, or rather blah for a top 10 wannabe.

Who did they get their wins against in this non top 10 group? #19, #27, #33, #37, #44, #92, #107.

They were beaten by the #14, #16, #20, #21(twice) teams.

So they show up against some weaker teams, get wins against weaker teams….

Now FLG lost several starters and their goalie…be happy being a top 20 team(if you can stay there) and stop spouting nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters had their big run with there 23 class. 15 D1 from the Black team and 2 Ivy and a couple d3. There 27 team is next to watch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are the data for 23s. pretty consistent, except for M&D who only had 2 top 25 commits. (though to be fair, they sent 2 more to Duke)

YJ 11
MA Elite 8
Capital 8
Heros 8
Salt City Snipers 7
STEPS-NJ 7
Monster 7
Big 4 HHH 6
CT Grizzles 5
PrimeTime 5
LI TopGuns 5
NXT 5
Major Force 5
Team 180 4
Skywalkers 4
NH Tomahawks 4
VA Metro 4
Team One 4
Phantastix 4
LI Legacy 4

Where are jesters, they had none in 2023 class? Thought that was a strong team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters had their big run with there 23 class. 15 D1 from the Black team and 2 Ivy and a couple d3. There 27 team is next to watch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are the data for 23s. pretty consistent, except for M&D who only had 2 top 25 commits. (though to be fair, they sent 2 more to Duke)

YJ 11
MA Elite 8
Capital 8
Heros 8
Salt City Snipers 7
STEPS-NJ 7
Monster 7
Big 4 HHH 6
CT Grizzles 5
PrimeTime 5
LI TopGuns 5
NXT 5
Major Force 5
Team 180 4
Skywalkers 4
NH Tomahawks 4
VA Metro 4
Team One 4
Phantastix 4
LI Legacy 4

Where are jesters, they had none in 2023 class? Thought that was a strong team.

They had 3 top 25 commits in that class and 10 D1 commits overall. I cut off the list at 4.

Had commits to

Akron
Binghamton
Jacksonville
Lafayette
Loyola (MD)
Manhattan
Marist
Siena
Syracuse
Temple

Originally Posted by Anonymous

yeah, there 27 team sounds good over there

I sea what hue did their

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Best players according to their parents, reality FLG best offensive players stayed.

Isn’t it ironic.

FLG will remain a top 10 team nationally. Ownership is committed to the program and the team. Those who left have already been replaced by equal or better players.

This poster is obviously disconnected from reality. How can you remain Top 10 nationally if you aren’t even in the Top 10? Using US Lacrosse rankings, lets look at the facts:

FLG is #13.(they dropped in case you missed that..even after all the hype around how great they were)

How did FLG do against the Top 10 who they, according to this poster, should be a part of? They went 2-6. meh.

How did they do against the other teams they played this year? 7-5 against non top 10 teams. More meh, or rather blah for a top 10 wannabe.

Who did they get their wins against in this non top 10 group? #19, #27, #33, #37, #44, #92, #107.

They were beaten by the #14, #16, #20, #21(twice) teams.

So they show up against some weaker teams, get wins against weaker teams….

Now FLG lost several starters and their goalie…be happy being a top 20 team(if you can stay there) and stop spouting nonsense.

(Insert mic drop here)

Anyone know how much tuitions is at Jesters this year?

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For reference, here is a list of commitments by club to top 25 clubs based on final rankings.

YJ 14
M&D 11
Capital 10
Monster 9
CT Grizzlies 9
Ultimate PA 8
Salt City Snipers 8
Mass Elite 7
Steps NJ 7
Big 4 HHH 7
Team 180 7
Phantastix 6
LI TopGuns 6
Steps CA 5
PrimeTime 5
SkyWalkers 5
Lakeshore 5
Laxachusetts 5
Team One 4
3D 4

Outside the top 5 or 6 clubs, it is pretty rare for a club to have more than a handful of girls sign to big time programs.

Need to remember that lots of girls on this list aren't receiving a dime of academic $$. I know for a fact many of those Capital and Grizzlies girls on top 25 teams are pretty much roster fillers. Lots of LI girls don't have the option to go to a top 25 school and pay full tuition. This is why CT and DC/MD schools will always do better on this list.

Or…hide your money. If you can get your income down to about 120k, you will get about 60% at an Ivy or top 20 school with big endowment. I know of a few girls who turned down a decent athletic scholarship because they got way more going need based. You will also be a more desirable recruit because they can give the money to someone else. If you have more than one child in college at the same time, you will do even better. Keep in mind that financial aid looks back two years

Not sure how you can hide your money starting this year with FAFSA charges. Lots of loop holes closed and more middle class will be paying a lot more. Loss for middle class and a win for the really need based kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters had their big run with there 23 class. 15 D1 from the Black team and 2 Ivy and a couple d3. There 27 team is next to watch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are the data for 23s. pretty consistent, except for M&D who only had 2 top 25 commits. (though to be fair, they sent 2 more to Duke)

YJ 11
MA Elite 8
Capital 8
Heros 8
Salt City Snipers 7
STEPS-NJ 7
Monster 7
Big 4 HHH 6
CT Grizzles 5
PrimeTime 5
LI TopGuns 5
NXT 5
Major Force 5
Team 180 4
Skywalkers 4
NH Tomahawks 4
VA Metro 4
Team One 4
Phantastix 4
LI Legacy 4

Where are jesters, they had none in 2023 class? Thought that was a strong team.

They had 3 top 25 commits in that class and 10 D1 commits overall. I cut off the list at 4.

Had commits to

Akron
Binghamton
Jacksonville
Lafayette
Loyola (MD)
Manhattan
Marist
Siena
Syracuse
Temple

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters had their big run with there 23 class. 15 D1 from the Black team and 2 Ivy and a couple d3. There 27 team is next to watch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are the data for 23s. pretty consistent, except for M&D who only had 2 top 25 commits. (though to be fair, they sent 2 more to Duke)

YJ 11
MA Elite 8
Capital 8
Heros 8
Salt City Snipers 7
STEPS-NJ 7
Monster 7
Big 4 HHH 6
CT Grizzles 5
PrimeTime 5
LI TopGuns 5
NXT 5
Major Force 5
Team 180 4
Skywalkers 4
NH Tomahawks 4
VA Metro 4
Team One 4
Phantastix 4
LI Legacy 4

Where are jesters, they had none in 2023 class? Thought that was a strong team.

They had 3 top 25 commits in that class and 10 D1 commits overall. I cut off the list at 4.

Had commits to

Akron
Binghamton
Jacksonville
Lafayette
Loyola (MD)
Manhattan
Marist
Siena
Syracuse
Temple

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters had their big run with there 23 class. 15 D1 from the Black team and 2 Ivy and a couple d3. There 27 team is next to watch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are the data for 23s. pretty consistent, except for M&D who only had 2 top 25 commits. (though to be fair, they sent 2 more to Duke)

YJ 11
MA Elite 8
Capital 8
Heros 8
Salt City Snipers 7
STEPS-NJ 7
Monster 7
Big 4 HHH 6
CT Grizzles 5
PrimeTime 5
LI TopGuns 5
NXT 5
Major Force 5
Team 180 4
Skywalkers 4
NH Tomahawks 4
VA Metro 4
Team One 4
Phantastix 4
LI Legacy 4

Where are jesters, they had none in 2023 class? Thought that was a strong team.

They had 3 top 25 commits in that class and 10 D1 commits overall. I cut off the list at 4.

Had commits to

Akron
Binghamton
Jacksonville
Lafayette
Loyola (MD)
Manhattan
Marist
Siena
Syracuse
Temple

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters had their big run with there 23 class. 15 D1 from the Black team and 2 Ivy and a couple d3. There 27 team is next to watch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here are the data for 23s. pretty consistent, except for M&D who only had 2 top 25 commits. (though to be fair, they sent 2 more to Duke)

YJ 11
MA Elite 8
Capital 8
Heros 8
Salt City Snipers 7
STEPS-NJ 7
Monster 7
Big 4 HHH 6
CT Grizzles 5
PrimeTime 5
LI TopGuns 5
NXT 5
Major Force 5
Team 180 4
Skywalkers 4
NH Tomahawks 4
VA Metro 4
Team One 4
Phantastix 4
LI Legacy 4

Where are jesters, they had none in 2023 class? Thought that was a strong team.

They had 3 top 25 commits in that class and 10 D1 commits overall. I cut off the list at 4.

Had commits to

Akron
Binghamton
Jacksonville
Lafayette
Loyola (MD)
Manhattan
Marist
Siena
Syracuse
Temple

Bing
Jacksonville
Loyola
Marist
Siena
Syracuse
Boston College
MIT
UMass
Temple
Pace
Virginia Tech
Lafayette
Cortland
LIU Post
U of Chicago

Go through the list of commits, see how much they played.

2023 commits didn’t get to college yet Einstein

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go through the list of commits, see how much they played.

You go through them and get back to us in about 10 months

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go through the list of commits, see how much they played.

Revisit this next spring. I'm sure some 23s will play.

Daughter got invited to Best in Class event in Delaware in June. Have 72 hours to decide.

Is it worth going to for a 27?

It’s all a money grab - if you have nothing better to do than to travel to all of these pay for play events after the 4/5 travel tourneys, go for it….. college coaches earn an off-season living off the pay they get to attend these events.

Best in class, LILJ games, Excelsior, under armor, and so on, all formed to keep college coaches busy and paid during the off season. Kids get to advertise that they are playing in it, maybe the only worthwhile part of it.

Went to a few this summer because I felt we had to go to be seen. I have to say, never again. Was my daughter seen? Idk. We get emails saying they saw her. I feel maybe they are reaching out because they have her info on a list of attendees and not because they saw her. I am at a point that everything is a money grab. We are now focusing on specific prospect days at colleges and those cost money. And honestly, lots of those are money grabs as well. As someone mentioned, if you have the time and money, you can go to unlimited showcases, camps, clinics and prospect days. I can’t wait u til this is over lol. I told my husband I wish we never started pal and who knew it would lead to this insanity. And it is insanity.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Daughter got invited to Best in Class event in Delaware in June. Have 72 hours to decide.

Is it worth going to for a 27?

Like others have said, all of these are money grabs. However my 24 went to several of them including BIC, players open, etc. this was the best of the bunch in terms of recruiting and I know that the school she committed to saw her at this event.

At this point, the biggest value of the event is that if daughter plays well, it will get her an invite during her recruiting summer.

All are moneygrabs at this age. No one is looking at 2027s. Theyre not. Save your money.

Families continue to fall for these expensive lacrosse marketing ploys for the social media post

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Daughter got invited to Best in Class event in Delaware in June. Have 72 hours to decide.

Is it worth going to for a 27?

Like others have said, all of these are money grabs. However my 24 went to several of them including BIC, players open, etc. this was the best of the bunch in terms of recruiting and I know that the school she committed to saw her at this event.

At this point, the biggest value of the event is that if daughter plays well, it will get her an invite during her recruiting summer.

Good info however can you clarify…did Your 24 go as a junior, or sophmore or did you mean she went as a freshman? The original comment said their daughter is a 27 which would mean a freshman.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Daughter got invited to Best in Class event in Delaware in June. Have 72 hours to decide.

Is it worth going to for a 27?

Like others have said, all of these are money grabs. However my 24 went to several of them including BIC, players open, etc. this was the best of the bunch in terms of recruiting and I know that the school she committed to saw her at this event.

At this point, the biggest value of the event is that if daughter plays well, it will get her an invite during her recruiting summer.

Good info however can you clarify…did Your 24 go as a junior, or sophmore or did you mean she went as a freshman? The original comment said their daughter is a 27 which would mean a freshman.

The only reason to do any of these as a freshman is for fun. College coaches are not looking at these girls.

Not that poster but my daughter is a 25 and we didn’t start anything until this year. Anything before is a complete waste. I see thr 26-27 at these things and it’s insane….that thr parents waste the time and money and to thr coaches that promote it. Everything is split up once you get there by age. So the 26-27 aren’t even looked at because the coaches can completely avoid going to those fields. I’d you want experience of what to expect…go for it…once. At one that is close by so you don’t need to stay in a hotel and waste more money. Ans I say this as my child is a 2025 in the recruiting period. She isn’t going. Too 20 so maybe that matters…I don’t think so because we have friends whose kids are. And as others mentioned they know who they want already just by team, tournaments etc. just have your child be thr one emailing schools when it’s time, highlight video, etc. we are headed into the most important tournament season…fall of junior year president’s cup. Coaches will be there watching so we know this is super important. I will say, we know girls that didn’t commit to top schools until may of junior year….top 10 schools. There is no rhyme or reason to any or this. Sorry this sounds fool…the whole process is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Daughter got invited to Best in Class event in Delaware in June. Have 72 hours to decide.

Is it worth going to for a 27?

Like others have said, all of these are money grabs. However my 24 went to several of them including BIC, players open, etc. this was the best of the bunch in terms of recruiting and I know that the school she committed to saw her at this event.

At this point, the biggest value of the event is that if daughter plays well, it will get her an invite during her recruiting summer.

Good info however can you clarify…did Your 24 go as a junior, or sophmore or did you mean she went as a freshman? The original comment said their daughter is a 27 which would mean a freshman.

24 Daughter went last summer as a rising junior

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not that poster but my daughter is a 25 and we didn’t start anything until this year. Anything before is a complete waste. I see thr 26-27 at these things and it’s insane….that thr parents waste the time and money and to thr coaches that promote it. Everything is split up once you get there by age. So the 26-27 aren’t even looked at because the coaches can completely avoid going to those fields. I’d you want experience of what to expect…go for it…once. At one that is close by so you don’t need to stay in a hotel and waste more money. Ans I say this as my child is a 2025 in the recruiting period. She isn’t going. Too 20 so maybe that matters…I don’t think so because we have friends whose kids are. And as others mentioned they know who they want already just by team, tournaments etc. just have your child be thr one emailing schools when it’s time, highlight video, etc. we are headed into the most important tournament season…fall of junior year president’s cup. Coaches will be there watching so we know this is super important. I will say, we know girls that didn’t commit to top schools until may of junior year….top 10 schools. There is no rhyme or reason to any or this. Sorry this sounds fool…the whole process is.

detest to break it to you, but if you are targeting the top 2/3s of division 1, the summer was the most important tourney season. 90% of all spots at top 50 schools will be filled by November. They may add a girl or two as a preferred walk on, but their recruiting will likely be done by early November.

At Presidents Cups, LFTC, Chespeake Invite, most top college coaches will be focused on 26s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Daughter got invited to Best in Class event in Delaware in June. Have 72 hours to decide.

Is it worth going to for a 27?

Like others have said, all of these are money grabs. However my 24 went to several of them including BIC, players open, etc. this was the best of the bunch in terms of recruiting and I know that the school she committed to saw her at this event.

At this point, the biggest value of the event is that if daughter plays well, it will get her an invite during her recruiting summer.

Yup and if she turns it down, she won't get invited back next year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not that poster but my daughter is a 25 and we didn’t start anything until this year. Anything before is a complete waste. I see thr 26-27 at these things and it’s insane….that thr parents waste the time and money and to thr coaches that promote it. Everything is split up once you get there by age. So the 26-27 aren’t even looked at because the coaches can completely avoid going to those fields. I’d you want experience of what to expect…go for it…once. At one that is close by so you don’t need to stay in a hotel and waste more money. Ans I say this as my child is a 2025 in the recruiting period. She isn’t going. Too 20 so maybe that matters…I don’t think so because we have friends whose kids are. And as others mentioned they know who they want already just by team, tournaments etc. just have your child be thr one emailing schools when it’s time, highlight video, etc. we are headed into the most important tournament season…fall of junior year president’s cup. Coaches will be there watching so we know this is super important. I will say, we know girls that didn’t commit to top schools until may of junior year….top 10 schools. There is no rhyme or reason to any or this. Sorry this sounds fool…the whole process is.

detest to break it to you, but if you are targeting the top 2/3s of division 1, the summer was the most important tourney season. 90% of all spots at top 50 schools will be filled by November. They may add a girl or two as a preferred walk on, but their recruiting will likely be done by early November.

At Presidents Cups, LFTC, Chespeake Invite, most top college coaches will be focused on 26s.

100% not true. No one looking at 2026 yet. And if you reread what I posted, not looking at a top 10 school. It’s parents like you that cause the panic and promote the lies and nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

Going to be very hard losing 9 players… 7 of those were starters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

Going to be very hard losing 9 players… 7 of those were starters.

What clubs did the replacements come from? I heard 2 from Liberty but what about the rest?

The field players that left FLG will be depth players at the clubs they went to, playing time won’t be anything like it was at FLG, more playing time for those kids that stayed, not much of a drop off.

So what’s more important at this age. Child likes both coaches and players.

Better ranked team (30’s), 2nd string- unknown playing time, all the big tournaments. CLub fees cost less but a lot more money in travel.

Lower ranked team (60’s), starter with a ton of playing time, only 1 major tournament each season.

Impossible question to answer without name, only LI based teams in the 30s last year are Tradition and Liberty and won’t be the case this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not that poster but my daughter is a 25 and we didn’t start anything until this year. Anything before is a complete waste. I see thr 26-27 at these things and it’s insane….that thr parents waste the time and money and to thr coaches that promote it. Everything is split up once you get there by age. So the 26-27 aren’t even looked at because the coaches can completely avoid going to those fields. I’d you want experience of what to expect…go for it…once. At one that is close by so you don’t need to stay in a hotel and waste more money. Ans I say this as my child is a 2025 in the recruiting period. She isn’t going. Too 20 so maybe that matters…I don’t think so because we have friends whose kids are. And as others mentioned they know who they want already just by team, tournaments etc. just have your child be thr one emailing schools when it’s time, highlight video, etc. we are headed into the most important tournament season…fall of junior year president’s cup. Coaches will be there watching so we know this is super important. I will say, we know girls that didn’t commit to top schools until may of junior year….top 10 schools. There is no rhyme or reason to any or this. Sorry this sounds fool…the whole process is.

detest to break it to you, but if you are targeting the top 2/3s of division 1, the summer was the most important tourney season. 90% of all spots at top 50 schools will be filled by November. They may add a girl or two as a preferred walk on, but their recruiting will likely be done by early November.

At Presidents Cups, LFTC, Chespeake Invite, most top college coaches will be focused on 26s.

100% not true. No one looking at 2026 yet. And if you reread what I posted, not looking at a top 10 school. It’s parents like you that cause the panic and promote the lies and nonsense.

I think the original email was confusing.

If your goal is to go to a top-25 school, the summer before Junior year is critical. Sep-early Nov is when most of the talent will commit.

President's Cup, which is in Nov, is big for the 2026 class to get on the real radar of the top schools. Yes, some 2025s may catch the eye of coaches who are looking to fill out commits for sure but I'd say more important for 2026 this coming year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what’s more important at this age. Child likes both coaches and players.

Better ranked team (30’s), 2nd string- unknown playing time, all the big tournaments. CLub fees cost less but a lot more money in travel.

Lower ranked team (60’s), starter with a ton of playing time, only 1 major tournament each season.

what club only plays one tourney per season?

If your goal is exposure in high school, you need to be playing at least 3, ideally 4-5 tourneys.

If you are good enough to start for a team in the 60s, then you are probably good enough to start for a team in the 60s which plays more tourneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not that poster but my daughter is a 25 and we didn’t start anything until this year. Anything before is a complete waste. I see thr 26-27 at these things and it’s insane….that thr parents waste the time and money and to thr coaches that promote it. Everything is split up once you get there by age. So the 26-27 aren’t even looked at because the coaches can completely avoid going to those fields. I’d you want experience of what to expect…go for it…once. At one that is close by so you don’t need to stay in a hotel and waste more money. Ans I say this as my child is a 2025 in the recruiting period. She isn’t going. Too 20 so maybe that matters…I don’t think so because we have friends whose kids are. And as others mentioned they know who they want already just by team, tournaments etc. just have your child be thr one emailing schools when it’s time, highlight video, etc. we are headed into the most important tournament season…fall of junior year president’s cup. Coaches will be there watching so we know this is super important. I will say, we know girls that didn’t commit to top schools until may of junior year….top 10 schools. There is no rhyme or reason to any or this. Sorry this sounds fool…the whole process is.

detest to break it to you, but if you are targeting the top 2/3s of division 1, the summer was the most important tourney season. 90% of all spots at top 50 schools will be filled by November. They may add a girl or two as a preferred walk on, but their recruiting will likely be done by early November.

At Presidents Cups, LFTC, Chespeake Invite, most top college coaches will be focused on 26s.

100% not true. No one looking at 2026 yet. And if you reread what I posted, not looking at a top 10 school. It’s parents like you that cause the panic and promote the lies and nonsense.

I think the original email was confusing.

If your goal is to go to a top-25 school, the summer before Junior year is critical. Sep-early Nov is when most of the talent will commit.

President's Cup, which is in Nov, is big for the 2026 class to get on the real radar of the top schools. Yes, some 2025s may catch the eye of coaches who are looking to fill out commits for sure but I'd say more important for 2026 this coming year.

Its more than just top 25 schools, probably close to top 50 or 60.

Schools like Hofstra, Delaware, Cincinnati, Coastal Carolina, Va Tech, St. Joes will all have full recruiting classes before Presidents Cup.

The D1 schools who are actively looking at Presidents Cup are usually lower level conferences like MAC,Big South, Atlantic Sun, NEC.

Some big schools may "sign" someone post November but it is usually just a preferred walk-on offer. There may be exceptions due to a player recovering for an injury or a player who needed another semester of grades, but those are truly exceptions for the top 50 to 60 schools.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not that poster but my daughter is a 25 and we didn’t start anything until this year. Anything before is a complete waste. I see thr 26-27 at these things and it’s insane….that thr parents waste the time and money and to thr coaches that promote it. Everything is split up once you get there by age. So the 26-27 aren’t even looked at because the coaches can completely avoid going to those fields. I’d you want experience of what to expect…go for it…once. At one that is close by so you don’t need to stay in a hotel and waste more money. Ans I say this as my child is a 2025 in the recruiting period. She isn’t going. Too 20 so maybe that matters…I don’t think so because we have friends whose kids are. And as others mentioned they know who they want already just by team, tournaments etc. just have your child be thr one emailing schools when it’s time, highlight video, etc. we are headed into the most important tournament season…fall of junior year president’s cup. Coaches will be there watching so we know this is super important. I will say, we know girls that didn’t commit to top schools until may of junior year….top 10 schools. There is no rhyme or reason to any or this. Sorry this sounds fool…the whole process is.

detest to break it to you, but if you are targeting the top 2/3s of division 1, the summer was the most important tourney season. 90% of all spots at top 50 schools will be filled by November. They may add a girl or two as a preferred walk on, but their recruiting will likely be done by early November.

At Presidents Cups, LFTC, Chespeake Invite, most top college coaches will be focused on 26s.

100% not true. No one looking at 2026 yet. And if you reread what I posted, not looking at a top 10 school. It’s parents like you that cause the panic and promote the lies and nonsense.

Top schools absolutley will be looking at 26's this fall. Like the last poster stated 90% at top 50 schools will be filled by November (2025's). I have never seen a girl in May of Junior year get picked up by a top 10 school. Top schools will all be looking at 26's at Presdients cup FYI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not that poster but my daughter is a 25 and we didn’t start anything until this year. Anything before is a complete waste. I see thr 26-27 at these things and it’s insane….that thr parents waste the time and money and to thr coaches that promote it. Everything is split up once you get there by age. So the 26-27 aren’t even looked at because the coaches can completely avoid going to those fields. I’d you want experience of what to expect…go for it…once. At one that is close by so you don’t need to stay in a hotel and waste more money. Ans I say this as my child is a 2025 in the recruiting period. She isn’t going. Too 20 so maybe that matters…I don’t think so because we have friends whose kids are. And as others mentioned they know who they want already just by team, tournaments etc. just have your child be thr one emailing schools when it’s time, highlight video, etc. we are headed into the most important tournament season…fall of junior year president’s cup. Coaches will be there watching so we know this is super important. I will say, we know girls that didn’t commit to top schools until may of junior year….top 10 schools. There is no rhyme or reason to any or this. Sorry this sounds fool…the whole process is.

detest to break it to you, but if you are targeting the top 2/3s of division 1, the summer was the most important tourney season. 90% of all spots at top 50 schools will be filled by November. They may add a girl or two as a preferred walk on, but their recruiting will likely be done by early November.

At Presidents Cups, LFTC, Chespeake Invite, most top college coaches will be focused on 26s.

100% not true. No one looking at 2026 yet. And if you reread what I posted, not looking at a top 10 school. It’s parents like you that cause the panic and promote the lies and nonsense.

Top schools absolutley will be looking at 26's this fall. Like the last poster stated 90% at top 50 schools will be filled by November (2025's). I have never seen a girl in May of Junior year get picked up by a top 10 school. Top schools will all be looking at 26's at Presdients cup FYI.

100% wrong information

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not that poster but my daughter is a 25 and we didn’t start anything until this year. Anything before is a complete waste. I see thr 26-27 at these things and it’s insane….that thr parents waste the time and money and to thr coaches that promote it. Everything is split up once you get there by age. So the 26-27 aren’t even looked at because the coaches can completely avoid going to those fields. I’d you want experience of what to expect…go for it…once. At one that is close by so you don’t need to stay in a hotel and waste more money. Ans I say this as my child is a 2025 in the recruiting period. She isn’t going. Too 20 so maybe that matters…I don’t think so because we have friends whose kids are. And as others mentioned they know who they want already just by team, tournaments etc. just have your child be thr one emailing schools when it’s time, highlight video, etc. we are headed into the most important tournament season…fall of junior year president’s cup. Coaches will be there watching so we know this is super important. I will say, we know girls that didn’t commit to top schools until may of junior year….top 10 schools. There is no rhyme or reason to any or this. Sorry this sounds fool…the whole process is.

detest to break it to you, but if you are targeting the top 2/3s of division 1, the summer was the most important tourney season. 90% of all spots at top 50 schools will be filled by November. They may add a girl or two as a preferred walk on, but their recruiting will likely be done by early November.

At Presidents Cups, LFTC, Chespeake Invite, most top college coaches will be focused on 26s.

100% not true. No one looking at 2026 yet. And if you reread what I posted, not looking at a top 10 school. It’s parents like you that cause the panic and promote the lies and nonsense.

Top schools absolutley will be looking at 26's this fall. Like the last poster stated 90% at top 50 schools will be filled by November (2025's). I have never seen a girl in May of Junior year get picked up by a top 10 school. Top schools will all be looking at 26's at Presdients cup FYI.

100% wrong information

Wow how many more people have to post and tell you its compelety correct. Fall starts the recuriting year for 2026. I don't know why your club or coaches would tell you as a 2025 you are entering the most important tournament season-that was last fall and this past summer. Its literally a fact. I didnt pull this out of the sky its been communicated to families by the club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Not that poster but my daughter is a 25 and we didn’t start anything until this year. Anything before is a complete waste. I see thr 26-27 at these things and it’s insane….that thr parents waste the time and money and to thr coaches that promote it. Everything is split up once you get there by age. So the 26-27 aren’t even looked at because the coaches can completely avoid going to those fields. I’d you want experience of what to expect…go for it…once. At one that is close by so you don’t need to stay in a hotel and waste more money. Ans I say this as my child is a 2025 in the recruiting period. She isn’t going. Too 20 so maybe that matters…I don’t think so because we have friends whose kids are. And as others mentioned they know who they want already just by team, tournaments etc. just have your child be thr one emailing schools when it’s time, highlight video, etc. we are headed into the most important tournament season…fall of junior year president’s cup. Coaches will be there watching so we know this is super important. I will say, we know girls that didn’t commit to top schools until may of junior year….top 10 schools. There is no rhyme or reason to any or this. Sorry this sounds fool…the whole process is.

detest to break it to you, but if you are targeting the top 2/3s of division 1, the summer was the most important tourney season. 90% of all spots at top 50 schools will be filled by November. They may add a girl or two as a preferred walk on, but their recruiting will likely be done by early November.

At Presidents Cups, LFTC, Chespeake Invite, most top college coaches will be focused on 26s.

100% not true. No one looking at 2026 yet. And if you reread what I posted, not looking at a top 10 school. It’s parents like you that cause the panic and promote the lies and nonsense.

Top schools absolutley will be looking at 26's this fall. Like the last poster stated 90% at top 50 schools will be filled by November (2025's). I have never seen a girl in May of Junior year get picked up by a top 10 school. Top schools will all be looking at 26's at Presdients cup FYI.

100% wrong information

Wow how many more people have to post and tell you its compelety correct. Fall starts the recuriting year for 2026. I don't know why your club or coaches would tell you as a 2025 you are entering the most important tournament season-that was last fall and this past summer. It’s literally a fact. I didnt pull this out of the sky its been communicated to families by the club.[/quote

Just for clarity, you are saying Fall of 10th grade starts the recruiting year?

Also does anyone know the dates for fall queen of the island this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Not that poster but my daughter is a 25 and we didn’t start anything until this year. Anything before is a complete waste. I see thr 26-27 at these things and it’s insane….that thr parents waste the time and money and to thr coaches that promote it. Everything is split up once you get there by age. So the 26-27 aren’t even looked at because the coaches can completely avoid going to those fields. I’d you want experience of what to expect…go for it…once. At one that is close by so you don’t need to stay in a hotel and waste more money. Ans I say this as my child is a 2025 in the recruiting period. She isn’t going. Too 20 so maybe that matters…I don’t think so because we have friends whose kids are. And as others mentioned they know who they want already just by team, tournaments etc. just have your child be thr one emailing schools when it’s time, highlight video, etc. we are headed into the most important tournament season…fall of junior year president’s cup. Coaches will be there watching so we know this is super important. I will say, we know girls that didn’t commit to top schools until may of junior year….top 10 schools. There is no rhyme or reason to any or this. Sorry this sounds fool…the whole process is.

detest to break it to you, but if you are targeting the top 2/3s of division 1, the summer was the most important tourney season. 90% of all spots at top 50 schools will be filled by November. They may add a girl or two as a preferred walk on, but their recruiting will likely be done by early November.

At Presidents Cups, LFTC, Chespeake Invite, most top college coaches will be focused on 26s.

100% not true. No one looking at 2026 yet. And if you reread what I posted, not looking at a top 10 school. It’s parents like you that cause the panic and promote the lies and nonsense.

Top schools absolutley will be looking at 26's this fall. Like the last poster stated 90% at top 50 schools will be filled by November (2025's). I have never seen a girl in May of Junior year get picked up by a top 10 school. Top schools will all be looking at 26's at Presdients cup FYI.

100% wrong information

Wow how many more people have to post and tell you its compelety correct. Fall starts the recuriting year for 2026. I don't know why your club or coaches would tell you as a 2025 you are entering the most important tournament season-that was last fall and this past summer. It’s literally a fact. I didnt pull this out of the sky its been communicated to families by the club.[/quote

Just for clarity, you are saying Fall of 10th grade starts the recruiting year?

Also does anyone know the dates for fall queen of the island this year?

For most D1 schools, they start looking at kids in the Fall of their sophomore year. (There may be a few who are looking accidentally before then, but those are really exceptions and shouldn't be planned on).

Lax For the Cure, Fall Draw, Rivalry and Chesapeake are the biggest fall recruiting events for kids at top clubs. There were games this year at LFTC fall where YJ Spallina probably had 30-40 coaches PER HALF watching

Presidents Cup is a big event too. However, if you play for a top club you will likely get 2x more coaches watching you during the east coast fall events. If you are targeting D2 or D3 or don't play at a club which plays in the best events, Presidents Cup is probably the biggest fall event.

Based on these fall events, coaches often reach out to your recruiting director and "suggest" that you attend their winter or summer camps.

Ok well we can disagree. Not every girl is going to be recruited 9/1 by a top 20. This process takes time. Yes of course some girls are already unofficially committed. Thr vast majority are not. And I know for a fact girls go to top 10 way into the year whether you want to believe it not. Most schools aren’t worried about 2026’s yet. Still worrying about 24 (yep still trying to finish) and 2025.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The field players that left FLG will be depth players at the clubs they went to, playing time won’t be anything like it was at FLG, more playing time for those kids that stayed, not much of a drop off.

Did someone tell you that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

Going to be very hard losing 9 players… 7 of those were starters.

What clubs did the replacements come from? I heard 2 from Liberty but what about the rest?

They weren’t excellent last year (barely competitive) so how could they be excellent this upcoming year especially after losing one of the top goalies on east coast amongst others unless competition will be against teams that play in mid level B brackets or lower.

FLG will be fine but they are a B team. They don’t have a seat at the table.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

Going to be very hard losing 9 players… 7 of those were starters.

What clubs did the replacements come from? I heard 2 from Liberty but what about the rest?

They weren’t excellent last year (barely competitive) so how could they be excellent this upcoming year especially after losing one of the top goalies on east coast amongst others unless competition will be against teams that play in mid level B brackets or lower.

Goalie Dad did not enjoy his time with FLG

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

Going to be very hard losing 9 players… 7 of those were starters.

What clubs did the replacements come from? I heard 2 from Liberty but what about the rest?

They weren’t excellent last year (barely competitive) so how could they be excellent this upcoming year especially after losing one of the top goalies on east coast amongst others unless competition will be against teams that play in mid level B brackets or lower.

Goalie Dad did not enjoy his time with FLG

He wasn’t the only one. Great group of girls which is why the team stayed together as long as they did. But when the owner consistently over promises and underdelivers, it was a matter of time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok well we can disagree. Not every girl is going to be recruited 9/1 by a top 20. This process takes time. Yes of course some girls are already unofficially committed. Thr vast majority are not. And I know for a fact girls go to top 10 way into the year whether you want to believe it not. Most schools aren’t worried about 2026’s yet. Still worrying about 24 (yep still trying to finish) and 2025.

NO not every girl but most(going top D1). Verbal commits started rolling in last Fall around September 4th. My girls play for a club that has been around for years they post all there verbal commits. I have never seen in the last ten years a girl commiting to a top 10 or even a top 20 school past October.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok well we can disagree. Not every girl is going to be recruited 9/1 by a top 20. This process takes time. Yes of course some girls are already unofficially committed. Thr vast majority are not. And I know for a fact girls go to top 10 way into the year whether you want to believe it not. Most schools aren’t worried about 2026’s yet. Still worrying about 24 (yep still trying to finish) and 2025.

Most schools or top schools? Top schools have been done with 24's for the last year and are ready to start making offers to 25's September 1st. Thus will start to focus on the 26's come this November. Its the same thing every year..............................................

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok well we can disagree. Not every girl is going to be recruited 9/1 by a top 20. This process takes time. Yes of course some girls are already unofficially committed. Thr vast majority are not. And I know for a fact girls go to top 10 way into the year whether you want to believe it not. Most schools aren’t worried about 2026’s yet. Still worrying about 24 (yep still trying to finish) and 2025.

NO not every girl but most(going top D1). Verbal commits started rolling in last Fall around September 4th. My girls play for a club that has been around for years they post all their verbal commits. I have never seen in the last ten years a girl commiting to a top 10 or even a top 20 school past October.

You must be new to this. Keep an eye on IL commitment page, although it certainly slows down after October, there still a good number of girls who commit to top 25 schools after that. Been happening for years.

You must be new to this. Keep an eye on IL commitment page, although it certainly slows down after October, there still a good number of girls who commit to top 25 schools after that. Been happening for years.[/quote]

No not new. I have a 24 she verbally commited Septmebr 4th and her teammates going top 20 all by October. I also have a 26 and 27. YES they still come in past October- 90% by November. But girls are certainly not committing in May of Junior year to a top 10 or 20 per below comment .

[quote=Anonymous]Not that poster but my daughter is a 25 and we didn’t start anything until this year. Anything before is a complete waste. I see thr 26-27 at these things and it’s insane….that thr parents waste the time and money and to thr coaches that promote it. Everything is split up once you get there by age. So the 26-27 aren’t even looked at because the coaches can completely avoid going to those fields. I’d you want experience of what to expect…go for it…once. At one that is close by so you don’t need to stay in a hotel and waste more money. Ans I say this as my child is a 2025 in the recruiting period. She isn’t going. Too 20 so maybe that matters…I don’t think so because we have friends whose kids are. And as others mentioned they know who they want already just by team, tournaments etc. just have your child be thr one emailing schools when it’s time, highlight video, etc. we are headed into the most important tournament season…fall of junior year president’s cup. Coaches will be there watching so we know this is super important. I will say, we know girls that didn’t commit to top schools until may of junior year….top 10 schools. There is no rhyme or reason to any or this. Sorry this sounds fool…the whole process is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

Going to be very hard losing 9 players… 7 of those were starters.

What clubs did the replacements come from? I heard 2 from Liberty but what about the rest?

They weren’t excellent last year (barely competitive) so how could they be excellent this upcoming year especially after losing one of the top goalies on east coast amongst others unless competition will be against teams that play in mid level B brackets or lower.

Goalie Dad did not enjoy his time with FLG

He wasn’t the only one. Great group of girls which is why the team stayed together as long as they did. But when the owner consistently over promises and underdelivers, it was a matter of time.

Wink, wink

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

Going to be very hard losing 9 players… 7 of those were starters.

What clubs did the replacements come from? I heard 2 from Liberty but what about the rest?

They weren’t excellent last year (barely competitive) so how could they be excellent this upcoming year especially after losing one of the top goalies on east coast amongst others unless competition will be against teams that play in mid level B brackets or lower.

Goalie Dad did not enjoy his time with FLG

He wasn’t the only one. Great group of girls which is why the team stayed together as long as they did. But when the owner consistently over promises and underdelivers, it was a matter of time.

Wink, wink

I see what you did there.

So FLG Navy, the trophy of the FLG program is done? Also Tradition a shell of what they were last year? Where did all of these girls go? Girls choosing much less playing time for a better club experience it seems.

Lots and we of negativity here. It’s a shame. Kids going into HS. This will be great for most kids. Enjoy the ride. Most of you won’t experience it again. Be supportive.

And remember. Empire will be a contender this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

Going to be very hard losing 9 players… 7 of those were starters.

What clubs did the replacements come from? I heard 2 from Liberty but what about the rest?

They weren’t excellent last year (barely competitive) so how could they be excellent this upcoming year especially after losing one of the top goalies on east coast amongst others unless competition will be against teams that play in mid level B brackets or lower.

Goalie Dad did not enjoy his time with FLG

He wasn’t the only one. Great group of girls which is why the team stayed together as long as they did. But when the owner consistently over promises and underdelivers, it was a matter of time.

Wink, wink

I see what you did there.

Most of us can accept that FLG is done now so let’s talk about how the Tradition owner’s kid is now on YJ. Bye,bye Tradition when your founder deserts you. How can that founder and coach deal with inferior coaching?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

Going to be very hard losing 9 players… 7 of those were starters.

What clubs did the replacements come from? I heard 2 from Liberty but what about the rest?

They weren’t excellent last year (barely competitive) so how could they be excellent this upcoming year especially after losing one of the top goalies on east coast amongst others unless competition will be against teams that play in mid level B brackets or lower.

Goalie Dad did not enjoy his time with FLG

He wasn’t the only one. Great group of girls which is why the team stayed together as long as they did. But when the owner consistently over promises and underdelivers, it was a matter of time.

Wink, wink

I see what you did there.

Most of us can accept that FLG is done now so let’s talk about how the Tradition owner’s kid is now on YJ. Bye,bye Tradition when your founder deserts you. How can that founder and coach deal with inferior coaching?

Lots of girls have moved on from tradition after 7th or 8th grade. This really isn't new. Tradition is a nice middle school program with decent coaching. Not a place to showcase D1 talent for colleges. Never has been, never will.

Bigger question, though, is will the 2 traditional girls who left ever see the field next year? Both middies, which is YJ's deepest position by far and replacing 3 girls who never really played.

Most of us can accept that FLG is done now so let’s talk about how the Tradition owner’s kid is now on YJ. Bye,bye Tradition when your founder deserts you. How can that founder and coach deal with inferior coaching?[/quote]

Did all these FLG and Tradition players switch to YJ and Jesters A-Teams? That [Censored] for the players that got cut or demoted going in to high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of us can accept that FLG is done now so let’s talk about how the Tradition owner’s kid is now on YJ. Bye,bye Tradition when your founder deserts you. How can that founder and coach deal with inferior coaching?

Did all these FLG and Tradition players switch to YJ and Jesters A-Teams? That [Censored] for the players that got cut or demoted going in to high school.[/quote]

27’s aren’t recruitable until after their 9th year. Making changes after the 8th grade year isn’t uncommon, nor does it jeopardize their recruiting.

Did all these FLG and Tradition players switch to YJ and Jesters A-Teams? That [Censored] for the players that got cut or demoted going in to high school.[/quote]

A couple of the YJ A players and maybe one or two tradition /FLG Navy player supposedly moving to TG black.

Did one of the top Top Gun 27 players reclass to 2028 and go to YJ or was she playing up?

With so much movement to Jesters A did some of the A players get demoted which would then have bumped down some off the blue team?

What is happening to Liberty with the merger? Sounds like most of their top players left.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of us can accept that FLG is done now so let’s talk about how the Tradition owner’s kid is now on YJ. Bye,bye Tradition when your founder deserts you. How can that founder and coach deal with inferior coaching?

Did all these FLG and Tradition players switch to YJ and Jesters A-Teams? That [Censored] for the players that got cut or demoted going in to high school.

27’s aren’t recruitable until after their 9th year. Making changes after the 8th grade year isn’t uncommon, nor does it jeopardize their recruiting.[/quote]

When would making a change jeopardize recruiting? Making a change during 10th grade year?

A lot of time spent here by parents obsessing over a top 20 lacrosse offer, doubtful the kids want it, more of an obsession coming from parents. Truth be told, when you fully explain to a kid what the investment is, sacrifice, risk of not seeing the field and lack of payoff at the end of those 4 years of college are to play at that level, most would choose otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of us can accept that FLG is done now so let’s talk about how the Tradition owner’s kid is now on YJ. Bye,bye Tradition when your founder deserts you. How can that founder and coach deal with inferior coaching?

Did all these FLG and Tradition players switch to YJ and Jesters A-Teams? That [Censored] for the players that got cut or demoted going in to high school.

27’s aren’t recruitable until after their 9th year. Making changes after the 8th grade year isn’t uncommon, nor does it jeopardize their recruiting.

When would making a change jeopardize recruiting? Making a change during 10th grade year?[/quote]

Not all teams even have tryouts (at least public tryouts) after 9th grade season. Even if they do, movement, at least on A teams is quite infrequent.

It may not hurt a kid, but it's almost impossible to move unless you are truly elite. One of the reason you are seeing so many private tryouts going on right now as teams look to improve rosters post tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With so much movement to Jesters A did some of the A players get demoted which would then have bumped down some off the blue team?

What is happening to Liberty with the merger? Sounds like most of their top players left.

A few of them went to Legacy, who lost most of their top players to YJ. Their star went to YJA and 5 or 6 ore to YJB.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of time spent here by parents obsessing over a top 20 lacrosse offer, doubtful the kids want it, more of an obsession coming from parents. Truth be told, when you fully explain to a kid what the investment is, sacrifice, risk of not seeing the field and lack of payoff at the end of those 4 years of college are to play at that level, most would choose otherwise.

I dont think anyone is obsessing over that...at all. it was when that offer would come in (timeframe) and when schools start looking at player to recruit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of time spent here by parents obsessing over a top 20 lacrosse offer, doubtful the kids want it, more of an obsession coming from parents. Truth be told, when you fully explain to a kid what the investment is, sacrifice, risk of not seeing the field and lack of payoff at the end of those 4 years of college are to play at that level, most would choose otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of time spent here by parents obsessing over a top 20 lacrosse offer, doubtful the kids want it, more of an obsession coming from parents. Truth be told, when you fully explain to a kid what the investment is, sacrifice, risk of not seeing the field and lack of payoff at the end of those 4 years of college are to play at that level, most would choose otherwise.

Agree that some parents definitely care more.

However lots of kids (not sure if majority) but definitely more than a few just want to use lax to get in the best college they can and really don’t care if they ever see the field.

YJA got legacy star and tradition star?

The top end of Tradition went to Jesters A

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJA got legacy star and tradition star?

Whether they are stars, that is up for debate, but they added 4 girls.

- 1 promotion from B team
- 2 middies from Tradition
- 1 lefty low attack from Legacy

Not sure any of them are "stars", but they are all solid players. Hard to really know what you have from Legacy girl -- she probably has the most upside and the best physically, but hard to evaluate with so little talent around her.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJA got legacy star and tradition star?

Whether they are stars, that is up for debate, but they added 4 girls.

- 1 promotion from B team
- 2 middies from Tradition
- 1 lefty low attack from Legacy

Not sure any of them are "stars", but they are all solid players. Hard to really know what you have from Legacy girl -- she probably has the most upside and the best physically, but hard to evaluate with so little talent around her.

Lefty attack won’t see much field time.

Legacy doesn’t have talent? I get it, if your not a top 10 team, your talented, lots of clowns on this site.

Legacy girls was first team all star at American select as middie. And one gc girl is a tall right attackman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJA got legacy star and tradition star?

Whether they are stars, that is up for debate, but they added 4 girls.

- 1 promotion from B team
- 2 middies from Tradition
- 1 lefty low attack from Legacy

Not sure any of them are "stars", but they are all solid players. Hard to really know what you have from Legacy girl -- she probably has the most upside and the best physically, but hard to evaluate with so little talent around her.

Lefty attack won’t see much field time.

Legacy girl was first team all star at American select as a middie. And gc girl is a tall right attackman. Info seems off

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy doesn’t have talent? I get it, if your not a top 10 team, your talented, lots of clowns on this site.

Like the clown who, earlier this year, said that Aces players were transferring to YJA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy girls was first team all star at American select as middie. And one gc girl is a tall right attackman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJA got legacy star and tradition star?

Whether they are stars, that is up for debate, but they added 4 girls.

- 1 promotion from B team
- 2 middies from Tradition
- 1 lefty low attack from Legacy

Not sure any of them are "stars", but they are all solid players. Hard to really know what you have from Legacy girl -- she probably has the most upside and the best physically, but hard to evaluate with so little talent around her.

Lefty attack won’t see much field time.

Legacy girl was first team all star at American select as a middie. And gc girl is a tall right attackman. Info seems off

I don’t put much stock on the “all star” team from AS at this age. No colleges were looking at them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy girls was first team all star at American select as middie. And one gc girl is a tall right attackman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJA got legacy star and tradition star?

Whether they are stars, that is up for debate, but they added 4 girls.

- 1 promotion from B team
- 2 middies from Tradition
- 1 lefty low attack from Legacy

Not sure any of them are "stars", but they are all solid players. Hard to really know what you have from Legacy girl -- she probably has the most upside and the best physically, but hard to evaluate with so little talent around her.

Lefty attack won’t see much field time.

Legacy girl was first team all star at American select as a middie. And gc girl is a tall right attackman. Info seems off

I don’t put much stock on the “all star” team from AS at this age. No colleges were looking at them.

Not to take anything away from these girls who work hard but something I’ve learned about all star teams, having a 24 and 27, is that they seem to always be geared toward the players of the clubs who run the events. AS is one example, LILJ games is another (especially the 27s). While it is nice to be recognized, these lists can be bias and political and college coaches put zero stock into them.

Like someone said above, all these events are money grabs - parents want them in these pay to play events to pound their chest

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy girls was first team all star at American select as middie. And one gc girl is a tall right attackman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJA got legacy star and tradition star?

Whether they are stars, that is up for debate, but they added 4 girls.

- 1 promotion from B team
- 2 middies from Tradition
- 1 lefty low attack from Legacy

Not sure any of them are "stars", but they are all solid players. Hard to really know what you have from Legacy girl -- she probably has the most upside and the best physically, but hard to evaluate with so little talent around her.

Lefty attack won’t see much field time.

Legacy girl was first team all star at American select as a middie. And gc girl is a tall right attackman. Info seems off

I don’t put much stock on the “all star” team from AS at this age. No colleges were looking at them.

Not taking anything away from the kids who make all tourney team, but these awards are picking by the coaches based on finish. Eg winning team get 4 players, 2nd place get 3 players, etc.

How is the PT on Jesters? Was it even last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How is the PT on Jesters? Was it even last year?

For the black team, in most competitive games against to 10 teams, 13-15 field players would typically get in the game. Pretty similar to YJ or top MD teams.

Jesters plays a slower tempo which allows then to play their stars for 40 minutes, if needed. Bottom line-- if you aren't in the top 2/3 of the roster, don't expect much field time.

The good news is that when they get up by 5 or more goal, their coach will put in backups much earlier than other top teams will.

With the schedule of YJ, Jesters, TGs being among the toughest, they are rarely up by a lot,14 or so girls will dominate playing time, not leaving much playing time for 6-8 girls. Better shot if your a Middie, defense/attack typically doesn’t change much in those tight games. This is the case with all top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the schedule of YJ, Jesters, TGs being among the toughest, they are rarely up by a lot,14 or so girls will dominate playing time, not leaving much playing time for 6-8 girls. Better shot if your a Middie, defense/attack typically doesn’t change much in those tight games. This is the case with all top teams.

How do those top teams play their goalies?
Better of the pair starts or better of pair is 2nd half goalie?

YJ played close to equal time all last year. Not sure what games people are watching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the schedule of YJ, Jesters, TGs being among the toughest, they are rarely up by a lot,14 or so girls will dominate playing time, not leaving much playing time for 6-8 girls. Better shot if your a Middie, defense/attack typically doesn’t change much in those tight games. This is the case with all top teams.

How do those top teams play their goalies?
Better of the pair starts or better of pair is 2nd half goalie?

Usually rotate in pool play and play their #1 in playoffs. Sometimes if the last pool play game is must win they will play their #1 in that as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJ played close to equal time all last year. Not sure what games people are watching.

Ummm. I watched YJA play my nieces team. They were up comfortably most of the game but it wasn’t a blowout. They won by 5 or 6. About 5 or 6 girls didn’t get on the field until 5 or so minutes left.

YJB played most of the girls on its inflated roster when we played them. However they were pretty much eliminated from the tourney by the time we played them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the schedule of YJ, Jesters, TGs being among the toughest, they are rarely up by a lot,14 or so girls will dominate playing time, not leaving much playing time for 6-8 girls. Better shot if your a Middie, defense/attack typically doesn’t change much in those tight games. This is the case with all top teams.

How do those top teams play their goalies?
Better of the pair starts or better of pair is 2nd half goalie?

Usually you start your top kid, if they are lights out, you have option to keep them in or if backup struggles, putting them back in.

I know in summer, we rotated our goalies who started vs didn't because its a different situation.

MY kid is on a top-20 team, we had playing time as close to equal as possible all summer long. Even in short playoff games. Coaches want to prepare for recruiting time in HS.
Negative was it cost us a few tight games and kids don't really know where they stand if PT equal.

Positive I guess is less upset parents/kids.

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the schedule of YJ, Jesters, TGs being among the toughest, they are rarely up by a lot,14 or so girls will dominate playing time, not leaving much playing time for 6-8 girls. Better shot if your a Middie, defense/attack typically doesn’t change much in those tight games. This is the case with all top teams.

How do those top teams play their goalies?
Better of the pair starts or better of pair is 2nd half goalie?

Usually rotate in pool play and play their #1 in playoffs. Sometimes if the last pool play game is must win they will play their #1 in that as well.[/quote]

Yes but does the “#1” play first or second when rotating in pool play? What is the philosophy for goalie playing first vs second?

How do those top teams play their goalies?
Better of the pair starts or better of pair is 2nd half goalie?[/quote]

Usually rotate in pool play and play their #1 in playoffs. Sometimes if the last pool play game is must win they will play their #1 in that as well.[/quote]

Yes but does the “#1” play first or second when rotating in pool play? What is the philosophy for goalie playing first vs second?[/quote]

There is no hard fast rule. Some teams are strictly 50/50 and let the goalies decide, while others go with their top goalie for the vast majority of time and everything in between. Most important thing is for the team to be clear with their intentions and to let the goalies know where they stand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MY kid is on a top-20 team, we had playing time as close to equal as possible all summer long. Even in short playoff games. Coaches want to prepare for recruiting time in HS.
Negative was it cost us a few tight games and kids don't really know where they stand if PT equal.

Positive I guess is less upset parents/kids.

I assume your daughter played for FLG or YJ Gaghan. Only top teams which I have seen play close to even playing time.

No top 20 teams plays everyone equally

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MY kid is on a top-20 team, we had playing time as close to equal as possible all summer long. Even in short playoff games. Coaches want to prepare for recruiting time in HS.
Negative was it cost us a few tight games and kids don't really know where they stand if PT equal.

Positive I guess is less upset parents/kids.

umm.. equal playing time generally upsets many more parents than unequal playing time. Equal playing time will upset the parents of every starter and many rotation players who are upset that the team will likely lose more games than it should.

From my experience a 80/20 split in PT between starters and backups is the best way to keep everyone happy.

YJ played close to half. And were ranked #4. Keep trying to justify why your teams don’t sub.

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YJ played close to half. And were ranked #4. Keep trying to justify why your teams don’t sub.

No they didn’t, but there’s nothing wrong with stronger players playing more than weaker players. That’s the way it should be, especially in highly competitive matchups.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No top 20 teams plays everyone equally

Equally basically impossible unless someone has a stop watch and constant subs but we get to as close as possible. We might start our top 2 attack along with the 5 and 6. Or our top 2 middies with our 5th. That sort of thing, End of day, our top kids might play 60% of the minutes, and depending on the game, might play less than others.

Goalies 50/50 nearly all the time. It makes for big swings from one half or the other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With the schedule of YJ, Jesters, TGs being among the toughest, they are rarely up by a lot,14 or so girls will dominate playing time, not leaving much playing time for 6-8 girls. Better shot if your a Middie, defense/attack typically doesn’t change much in those tight games. This is the case with all top teams.

How do those top teams play their goalies?
Better of the pair starts or better of pair is 2nd half goalie?

Usually rotate in pool play and play their #1 in playoffs. Sometimes if the last pool play game is must win they will play their #1 in that as well.

Yes but does the “#1” play first or second when rotating in pool play? What is the philosophy for goalie playing first vs second?[/quote]

Depends on the team. I like starting my #1 in games I know will be the toughest because it gets us off on the right foot and we are less likely to have to come back. It also may mean more of a possession game in the 2nd half to limit the other team's opportunities to begin with.

And I tell my goalies from day 1 that if one of them is on fire, they stay in. It's best to be open with them from the get go - I have had this happen to both where one of them was just on and I could not pull them. I have also had to pull them mid half for not playing well.

Do the top teams in this age group go to the same tourneys during the recruiting years? How about this year, what Fall tourneys are teams attending?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do the top teams in this age group go to the same tourneys during the recruiting years? How about this year, what Fall tourneys are teams attending?

Teams can’t just go to the best tourneys… the better clubs get their teams at the right ones. It’s a reason people leave for better clubs, to ensure better/the right tourneys

If your daughter looking for a top 20/30 college lax program the best tourneys matter, otherwise lots of great options for those looking for lower D1, D2 and D3. Hitting prospect days and getting program support more important.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your daughter looking for a top 20/30 college lax program the best tourneys matter, otherwise lots of great options for those looking for lower D1, D2 and D3. Hitting prospect days and getting program support more important.

Exactly. And the more of the better tourneys you go to, the better your chances of being seen because there are more opportunities for the coaches to be at your games. We travel much more with DD now that she is in HS than we did in MS in order to be at these tourneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If your daughter looking for a top 20/30 college lax program the best tourneys matter, otherwise lots of great options for those looking for lower D1, D2 and D3. Hitting prospect days and getting program support more important.

Exactly. And the more of the better tourneys you go to, the better your chances of being seen because there are more opportunities for the coaches to be at your games. We travel much more with DD now that she is in HS than we did in MS in order to be at these tourneys.

Same here and the summer has more fun. Maybe it is the weather and the advice above is right on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do the top teams in this age group go to the same tourneys during the recruiting years? How about this year, what Fall tourneys are teams attending?

YJ pretty do the same tourneys as youth but add summer genesis and drop youth nationals.

Summer Genesis
Lax for the Cure
G8
Mid Atlantic

Those to me are the big tournaments of the summer.

Live love lax in that bucket too, the Nationals a waste of time, if your team is in a few of those, all good, more important next year that their in these tourneys.

What are the big fall tournys

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

FLG has lost good players in the past and have still remained top 15 nationally. What changed?

Battle of the bone heads!

YJA got Traditions best 2 players and Legacy’s best player, who left or did they continue to expand the roster?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG will still be very good with excellent talent.

FLG has lost good players in the past and have still remained top 15 nationally. What changed?

They never lost a top goalie without getting one in return and have not replaced others who came and brought them to a below top 10 team. That team had chemistry and talent.

And a coach

Not much chatter recently about TG at this age. How did their tryouts go? Expected to have a stronger season?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not much chatter recently about TG at this age. How did their tryouts go? Expected to have a stronger season?

This is the summer where it all starts to change. Look to your left, look to your right. Those girls are competition. Nobody cares about tourney titles. Limited fall and spring practices because of high school sports. Your coach can only recommend a certain amount of players for showcases. College coaches that call next year will want a small handful of names. Stop caring about the roster, winning and losing. It's all about your daughter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not much chatter recently about TG at this age. How did their tryouts go? Expected to have a stronger season?

This is the summer where it all starts to change. Look to your left, look to your right. Those girls are competition. Nobody cares about tourney titles. Limited fall and spring practices because of high school sports. Your coach can only recommend a certain amount of players for showcases. College coaches that call next year will want a small handful of names. Stop caring about the roster, winning and losing. It's all about your daughter.

Can you elaborate on coach recommend for showcases and college coaches asking for names?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And a coach

No way Carol lets that lunatic anywhere near this team's sidelines.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJA got legacy star and tradition star?

Whether they are stars, that is up for debate, but they added 4 girls.

- 1 promotion from B team
- 2 middies from Tradition
- 1 lefty low attack from Legacy

Not sure any of them are "stars", but they are all solid players. Hard to really know what you have from Legacy girl -- she probably has the most upside and the best physically, but hard to evaluate with so little talent around her.

The middle from Legacy is the best of the 4 new players by a decent amount, though I agree she is likely moved to attack at YJ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not much chatter recently about TG at this age. How did their tryouts go? Expected to have a stronger season?

This is the summer where it all starts to change. Look to your left, look to your right. Those girls are competition. Nobody cares about tourney titles. Limited fall and spring practices because of high school sports. Your coach can only recommend a certain amount of players for showcases. College coaches that call next year will want a small handful of names. Stop caring about the roster, winning and losing. It's all about your daughter.

Can you elaborate on coach recommend for showcases and college coaches asking for names?

For any of the big invite showcases, juniors open, UA 150, Best In Class, club directors pretty much decide who on their club goes. For Juniors open and BIC, club directors submit a ranked list; for UA150, after applications, club directors are asked to ranked everyone from their club based on their recruit ability.

For example (and Im making these numbers up), YJ may be 12 spots at an invite for , Heros may get 8, Steps may get 6 and Legacy may get 2, , etc. It's up to the director who gets the spots.

On Instagram, you have already seen some of the early invites for Best In Class and Juniors Open, those were the girls at the top of their clubs' lists.

Its not the end of the world not attending these events, but it you aren't a starter on a top team, you have pretty much no chance of ever getting invited.

What’s the difference between the Players Open in October and the Juniors Open in June? LILJ runs it now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s the difference between the Players Open in October and the Juniors Open in June? LILJ runs it now?

Money Grabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s the difference between the Players Open in October and the Juniors Open in June? LILJ runs it now?

Players Open is coached by college coaches so anyone can sign up. Juniors is invite-only with coaches watches but being coaches by mostly local coaches and current college players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJA got legacy star and tradition star?

Whether they are stars, that is up for debate, but they added 4 girls.

- 1 promotion from B team
- 2 middies from Tradition
- 1 lefty low attack from Legacy

Not sure any of them are "stars", but they are all solid players. Hard to really know what you have from Legacy girl -- she probably has the most upside and the best physically, but hard to evaluate with so little talent around her.

The middle from Legacy is the best of the 4 new players by a decent amount, though I agree she is likely moved to attack at YJ.

Debatable

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s the difference between the Players Open in October and the Juniors Open in June? LILJ runs it now?

Money Grabs.

No coaches are looking at this grade, even next summer. Good events if your daughter wants extra reps but that's all it is

YJA widens the talent gap on LI, with Too Guns and Jesters following far behind

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJA widens the talent gap on LI, with Too Guns and Jesters following far behind

Tell me you’re a YJ dad without telling me you’re a YJ dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

YJA widens the talent gap on LI, with Too Guns and Jesters following far behind

Ha…”Far behind”

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s the difference between the Players Open in October and the Juniors Open in June? LILJ runs it now?

Money Grabs.

No coaches are looking at this grade, even next summer. Good events if your daughter wants extra reps but that's all it is

Coaches aren't looking at them live, but they will look at film from this summer early next fall. If you regularly play on a top 10 team, you probably already have good film, but if you play on a lower level team or ride the bench on a top team, this is an opportunity to get some good film.

Also, playing well at one of these events pretty much guarantees you getting into it the following year for when it matters. Not a big deal for top players on top teams, but can help others.

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YJA widens the talent gap on LI, with Too Guns and Jesters following far behind

Disagree. YJA got 3 quality girls (I haven't seen the 4th play so I can't comment on here), but they are unlikely to be starters or play minutes in key games.

Jesters probably got 3 or 4 girls who move into starting lineup immediately.

While the YJA bench is head and shoulders better than anyone else, the gap between YJA starters and Jesters narrowed (though YJA still the most talented team).

Jesters got more talent this year than YJ though. The two other tradition stars, one of the best on liberty, star goalie from FLG with one of their main attackers, and two middies from FLG.

What do you mean?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do you mean?

Fave Justin Beiber song?

Anyone know why the 2025 girls team thread is not working? Today is 9/1 and the biggest day of the year, am I right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the 2025 girls team thread is not working? Today is 9/1 and the biggest day of the year, am I right?

Hasn’t worked in two months and this is o e of the worst lax forums In The few there are. If anyone is reading Monster attacker committed to Cuse already

They’ve also been informed of it for two months. Just don’t bother.

Ok, too bad to hear.. .. can you give me 1 or 2 other forums for good info? Don't know about Monster though. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know why the 2025 girls team thread is not working? Today is 9/1 and the biggest day of the year, am I right?

2026 thread is also not working

The reason they haven’t fixed it or started a new in has to be because a certain matinee idol of a coach’s daughter is a top recruit and they do t want to have to disapprove post after post. Come to think of it, I’d be surprised if they let this one through

Out of curiosity, what happened to Liberty during the tryout season? I know their star left, but did the rest of the key players stay around. They finished the summer pretty strong.

Liberty improved

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Out of curiosity, what happened to Liberty during the tryout season? I know their star left, but did the rest of the key players stay around. They finished the summer pretty strong.

Where did their “star” go?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s the difference between the Players Open in October and the Juniors Open in June? LILJ runs it now?

Players Open is coached by college coaches so anyone can sign up. Juniors is invite-only with coaches watches but being coaches by mostly local coaches and current college players.

I got an email for my daughter to APPLY for Juniors. I don’t think it’s invite only.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Liberty improved

Who did they get?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s the difference between the Players Open in October and the Juniors Open in June? LILJ runs it now?

Players Open is coached by college coaches so anyone can sign up. Juniors is invite-only with coaches watches but being coaches by mostly local coaches and current college players.

I got an email for my daughter to APPLY for Juniors. I don’t think it’s invite only.

They still need to invite you after you apply.

For anyone that has been to presidents cup previously with older daughter, does presidents cup use tourney machine? Or TSIC? and when do they typically post the game schedules? 2. Weeks out? 1 month out? Randomly? TYIA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For anyone that has been to presidents cup previously with older daughter, does presidents cup use tourney machine? Or TSIC? and when do they typically post the game schedules? 2. Weeks out? 1 month out? Randomly? TYIA

Presidents cup uses TSIC.

Schedules usually come out 3 weeks in advance, though they often change until the Wednesday of the week.

Also, the parking there usually involves shuttle buses. So you need to arrive at fields at least 90 minutes before the games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For anyone that has been to presidents cup previously with older daughter, does presidents cup use tourney machine? Or TSIC? and when do they typically post the game schedules? 2. Weeks out? 1 month out? Randomly? TYIA

Are you asking about Debut or Presidents Cup?

Debut is usually a smaller more management event with only about 50 teams and at a smaller facility (Sportsplex).

The main Presidents Cup are at other facilities around Tampa and are much more of a zoo. Another poster mentioned shuttle buses.

Supposedly, schedules will be posted by next Friday, however, schedules for these tourneys change a lot.

Which clubs are going to Pres cup at this age?

No reason for 2027 aged teams to attend presidents cup

The real question is who isn’t.

Team 91 and YJA and YJB.

Really good idea to bring them to debut tourney. Helps them get used to the unique surroundings of this tourney before it matters next year.

Also remember many of these LI girls have never played lax on Bermuda grass before which takes some getting used to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which clubs are going to Pres cup at this age?

none - the forums for the age groups that are seem to be broken

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which clubs are going to Pres cup at this age?

none - the forums for the age groups that are seem to be broken

No YJ and 91 are. It's called Presidents Cup Debut. Run at the same time in Tampa as the Presidents Cup

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No reason for 2027 aged teams to attend presidents cup

The reason is to prep for next year's presidents cup or other recruiting events in the south (eg Lax Masters). Many LI girls have never had to fly with a stick, never dealt with ground balls on Bermuda grass.

Guess who’s back….back again. Chartreuse’s back…tel a friend.