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Use this thread to discuss lacrosse pertaining to Boys 2027 (7th Graders) for the Fall 2021/Summer 2022 season.
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What makes you think all of these kids are 7th graders or even 12?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What makes you think all of these kids are 7th graders or even 12?


😂😂 starting early are we
Cost of teams this year ? Lets hear it !!!
90 kids at Rebs today, time to get onboard
Originally Posted by Anonymous
90 kids at Rebs today, time to get onboard

Slight exaggeration but definitely around 60-70...still a good number and some good talent there.
90 plus let’s be real - wow
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
90 kids at Rebs today, time to get onboard

Slight exaggeration but definitely around 60-70...still a good number and some good talent there.


Rebels - Better to let performance results of the most recent year or ranking do the talking rather than try to drum up business by boasting how great tryouts are on every BOTC thread.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
90 kids at Rebs today, time to get onboard

Slight exaggeration but definitely around 60-70...still a good number and some good talent there.


Rebels - Better to let performance results of the most recent year or ranking do the talking rather than try to drum up business by boasting how great tryouts are on every BOTC thread.


I posted the "Slight exaggeration......" post and I realize you have to take my word for it but not affiliated with Rebels. However I know what you are saying so that is why I posted . I was there and wanted to challenge the 90 person exaggeration. But there was a good turnout amd in my opinion some very good talent. Not saying they will challenge the 91s or Express but maybe a step forward for that program
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cost of teams this year ? Lets hear it !!!

Express and 91 $4,300 plus
Rebels 4 k
Igloo 4k plus
Legacy $4,100
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90 plus let’s be real - wow

Yeah was probably around 75 or so on each field… not sure what age was on other field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cost of teams this year ? Lets hear it !!!

Express and 91 $4,300 plus
Rebels 4 k
Igloo 4k plus
Legacy $4,100


Rebels 3100 for 2027
Legacy 3800 for 2027
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cost of teams this year ? Lets hear it !!!

Express and 91 $4,300 plus
Rebels 4 k
Igloo 4k plus
Legacy $4,100


Rebels 3100 for 2027
Legacy 3800 for 2027

Express was $3400 according to the team invite
Rebels had sat and Sunday tryouts. Heard over 100 signed up but looked more like 75-80 each day
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had sat and Sunday tryouts. Heard over 100 signed up but looked more like 75-80 each day

Nope. It was just under 1,000 people each day. We’re looking so good the PLL asked us to enter a team next year into the league. Our expansion team will be called the Paul Rebels. Better get on board or you will miss out. We are so great.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had sat and Sunday tryouts. Heard over 100 signed up but looked more like 75-80 each day

Nope. It was just under 1,000 people each day. We’re looking so good the PLL asked us to enter a team next year into the league. Our expansion team will be called the Paul Rebels. Better get on board or you will miss out. We are so great.

Lol, clearly not someone with the Rebels.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had sat and Sunday tryouts. Heard over 100 signed up but looked more like 75-80 each day

It was under that amount of kids, but the talent was very good for both teams. Looks like they're replacing a kids with stronger talent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had sat and Sunday tryouts. Heard over 100 signed up but looked more like 75-80 each day

It was under that amount of kids, but the talent was very good for both teams. Looks like they're replacing a kids with stronger talent.


Was there. If some of the non-Rebels Helmet players join they will definitely take a huge step forward with the A.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had sat and Sunday tryouts. Heard over 100 signed up but looked more like 75-80 each day

It was under that amount of kids, but the talent was very good for both teams. Looks like they're replacing a kids with stronger talent.


Was there. If some of the non-Rebels Helmet players join they will definitely take a huge step forward with the A. My son will welcome it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had sat and Sunday tryouts. Heard over 100 signed up but looked more like 75-80 each day

It was under that amount of kids, but the talent was very good for both teams. Looks like they're replacing a kids with stronger talent.


Was there. If some of the non-Rebels Helmet players join they will definitely take a huge step forward with the A. My son will welcome it.
Had to add your son in there . Enough already Folks .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had sat and Sunday tryouts. Heard over 100 signed up but looked more like 75-80 each day

It was under that amount of kids, but the talent was very good for both teams. Looks like they're replacing a kids with stronger talent.


Was there. If some of the non-Rebels Helmet players join they will definitely take a huge step forward with the A. My son will welcome it.
Had to add your son in there . Enough already Folks .


My son was a top player on 91 Machine this past year, but seeing the magic happening at Rebels tryouts, we are going to make the move to Rebels. This is the best life decision we have ever had to make with our son. Can’t wait to get our new Rebels gear and the chance to be on the new Paul Rebels PLL expansion team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had sat and Sunday tryouts. Heard over 100 signed up but looked more like 75-80 each day

It was under that amount of kids, but the talent was very good for both teams. Looks like they're replacing a kids with stronger talent.


Was there. If some of the non-Rebels Helmet players join they will definitely take a huge step forward with the A. My son will welcome it.
Had to add your son in there . Enough already Folks .


My son was a top player on 91 Machine this past year, but seeing the magic happening at Rebels tryouts, we are going to make the move to Rebels. This is the best life decision we have ever had to make with our son. Can’t wait to get our new Rebels gear and the chance to be on the new Paul Rebels PLL expansion team.


I must have missed the board rules that you only discuss 91 teams here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had sat and Sunday tryouts. Heard over 100 signed up but looked more like 75-80 each day

It was under that amount of kids, but the talent was very good for both teams. Looks like they're replacing a kids with stronger talent.


Was there. If some of the non-Rebels Helmet players join they will definitely take a huge step forward with the A. My son will welcome it.
Had to add your son in there . Enough already Folks .


My son was a top player on 91 Machine this past year, but seeing the magic happening at Rebels tryouts, we are going to make the move to Rebels. This is the best life decision we have ever had to make with our son. Can’t wait to get our new Rebels gear and the chance to be on the new Paul Rebels PLL expansion team.


I must have missed the board rules that you only discuss 91 teams here.

Wrong. You missed listening to everyone ask you to please stop continuously marketing Rebels on every single age group thread. It’s exhausting and everyone sees through it.
Serious question. From Maryland and predators have started a club down here. How is there program up there ?
Machine take any new players ?
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Serious question. From Maryland and predators have started a club down here. How is there program up there ?

never heard of predators
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Serious question. From Maryland and predators have started a club down here. How is there program up there ?

never heard of predators

I believe they are in Westchester county but I know nothing about them .
Rising club
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebels had sat and Sunday tryouts. Heard over 100 signed up but looked more like 75-80 each day

It was under that amount of kids, but the talent was very good for both teams. Looks like they're replacing a kids with stronger talent.


Was there. If some of the non-Rebels Helmet players join they will definitely take a huge step forward with the A. My son will welcome it.
Had to add your son in there . Enough already Folks .
Why else would he be on this thread if his son wasn’t playing. Would be weird.
Igloo make any improvements. That team was hurting olaying in town tournament's .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo make any improvements. That team was hurting olaying in town tournament's .

Either your son is on the team and you could tell us if they got better and if not you are just trolling
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo make any improvements. That team was hurting olaying in town tournament's .

Either your son is on the team and you could tell us if they got better and if not you are just trolling
Doesn’t everyone troll on this forum ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cost of teams this year ? Lets hear it !!!

Express and 91 $4,300 plus
Rebels 4 k
Igloo 4k plus
Legacy $4,100


Rebels 3100 for 2027
Legacy 3800 for 2027

Express was $3400 according to the team invite

Some clubs price includes all and others have a low advertised price but piece meal it during the season. Ask questions,, for instance,, are fall/winter practices included in the price? How many tournaments and practices are included in the base prices? Do we have to purchase uniforms or is that included in the price?
Not to bash them but ,,,Don’t the Rebels play in lower end tournaments?
Are they attempting to move up? Why such a big turnout? Or is somebody trying to get some free advertising on this forum?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not to bash them but ,,,Don’t the Rebels play in lower end tournaments?
Are they attempting to move up? Why such a big turnout? Or is somebody trying to get some free advertising on this forum?

Rebels been trolling for weeks on this Forum with propaganda on there tryouts and what the teams going to be on every age group topic. So yes trying for some free add space .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not to bash them but ,,,Don’t the Rebels play in lower end tournaments?
Are they attempting to move up? Why such a big turnout? Or is somebody trying to get some free advertising on this forum?

Rebels been trolling for weeks on this Forum with propaganda on there tryouts and what the teams going to be on every age group topic. So yes trying for some free add space .

Don’t believe the Hype!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not to bash them but ,,,Don’t the Rebels play in lower end tournaments?
Are they attempting to move up? Why such a big turnout? Or is somebody trying to get some free advertising on this forum?

Rebels been trolling for weeks on this Forum with propaganda on there tryouts and what the teams going to be on every age group topic. So yes trying for some free add space .

Don’t believe the Hype!!

Tryouts are over. There's probably going to be less hype now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not to bash them but ,,,Don’t the Rebels play in lower end tournaments?
Are they attempting to move up? Why such a big turnout? Or is somebody trying to get some free advertising on this forum?

Rebels been trolling for weeks on this Forum with propaganda on there tryouts and what the teams going to be on every age group topic. So yes trying for some free add space .

Don’t believe the Hype!!

Tryouts are over. There's probably going to be less hype now.

Nothing said was a lie or hype. Rebels are a big talk among everyone right now (at least in my area) they have good coaches, practice and play a lot. Yes there were 75+ kids at each day of tryouts for the 2027s. What that means, I don’t know- but there were.

Maybe people are simply happy and understand what they are doing in their first 3 years is unheard of. Looks like they will have 20 teams this year. My only hope as a paying customer is they don’t grow too fast, but I am not really worried. Good people at the top.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not to bash them but ,,,Don’t the Rebels play in lower end tournaments?
Are they attempting to move up? Why such a big turnout? Or is somebody trying to get some free advertising on this forum?

Rebels been trolling for weeks on this Forum with propaganda on there tryouts and what the teams going to be on every age group topic. So yes trying for some free add space .

Don’t believe the Hype!!

Tryouts are over. There's probably going to be less hype now.

Nothing said was a lie or hype. Rebels are a big talk among everyone right now (at least in my area) they have good coaches, practice and play a lot. Yes there were 75+ kids at each day of tryouts for the 2027s. What that means, I don’t know- but there were.

Maybe people are simply happy and understand what they are doing in their first 3 years is unheard of. Looks like they will have 20 teams this year. My only hope as a paying customer is they don’t grow too fast, but I am not really worried. Good people at the top.


Be careful. Unless you speak of 91 and the 25-50 kids who play for them you open yourself to abuse. lmao. Pathetic.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not to bash them but ,,,Don’t the Rebels play in lower end tournaments?
Are they attempting to move up? Why such a big turnout? Or is somebody trying to get some free advertising on this forum?

Rebels been trolling for weeks on this Forum with propaganda on there tryouts and what the teams going to be on every age group topic. So yes trying for some free add space .

Don’t believe the Hype!!

Tryouts are over. There's probably going to be less hype now.

Nothing said was a lie or hype. Rebels are a big talk among everyone right now (at least in my area) they have good coaches, practice and play a lot. Yes there were 75+ kids at each day of tryouts for the 2027s. What that means, I don’t know- but there were.

Maybe people are simply happy and understand what they are doing in their first 3 years is unheard of. Looks like they will have 20 teams this year. My only hope as a paying customer is they don’t grow too fast, but I am not really worried. Good people at the top.

You think having 20 teams is a good thing??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not to bash them but ,,,Don’t the Rebels play in lower end tournaments?
Are they attempting to move up? Why such a big turnout? Or is somebody trying to get some free advertising on this forum?

Rebels been trolling for weeks on this Forum with propaganda on there tryouts and what the teams going to be on every age group topic. So yes trying for some free add space .

Don’t believe the Hype!!

Tryouts are over. There's probably going to be less hype now.

Nothing said was a lie or hype. Rebels are a big talk among everyone right now (at least in my area) they have good coaches, practice and play a lot. Yes there were 75+ kids at each day of tryouts for the 2027s. What that means, I don’t know- but there were.

Maybe people are simply happy and understand what they are doing in their first 3 years is unheard of. Looks like they will have 20 teams this year. My only hope as a paying customer is they don’t grow too fast, but I am not really worried. Good people at the top.

You think having 20 teams is a good thing??

A better question to ask is, since most clubs use B teams as a money maker and neglect these second teams, is there going to be any change to make the second teams better?
Any idea why try out results aren't posted for 91 yet? are other clubs not posting yet?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any idea why try out results aren't posted for 91 yet? are other clubs not posting yet?

call them your a customer !
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Got to adapt
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So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke
I agree with you statement. That's how Igloo used to be now; they are one of the most prominent money grab organizations.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

Really is a joke . Guess they don't have confidence in there 27 teams .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.
Igloo is a joke now.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

Only have to play in 2 events prior and live within 100 miles of teams home field . Probably how black ops got away with playing this year . Those kids are from multiple clubs
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

Only have to play in 2 events prior and live within 100 miles of teams home field . Probably how black ops got away with playing this year . Those kids are from multiple clubs

It’s smart. You go to this tourney to win. Might as well show up with the best team possible
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

Only have to play in 2 events prior and live within 100 miles of teams home field . Probably how black ops got away with playing this year . Those kids are from multiple clubs

It’s smart. You go to this tourney to win. Might as well show up with the best team possible


You have 2 -2027 teams why not use them?

Pro football has a trade and roster deadline so when a team makes thr playoffs they cannot just grab players of non playoff teams to make an allstar team.

Someone would say this is just 12-13 year old lax but it is essentially the same thing. Or if someone disagrees why have it under Igloo and not Team LI like True National does?? Would it really be an igloo team??
Did somebody just compare 7th grade lax to the NFL? If that’s the case “you play to win the games”… so put the best U13s you can find (which includes 8th graders) and have at it. 91 did it for the goalie, and they won.
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Did somebody just compare 7th grade lax to the NFL? If that’s the case “you play to win the games”… so put the best U13s you can find (which includes 8th graders) and have at it. 91 did it for the goalie, and they won.

Igloo just had tryouts. Couldn't come up with a team?

As well as kids just joined or rejoined teams. They will leave to play with Igloo. So say play with S2S or insert any team all season but play Igloo for WS?? Joke
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did somebody just compare 7th grade lax to the NFL? If that’s the case “you play to win the games”… so put the best U13s you can find (which includes 8th graders) and have at it. 91 did it for the goalie, and they won.

Igloo just had tryouts. Couldn't come up with a team?

As well as kids just joined or rejoined teams. They will leave to play with Igloo. So say play with S2S or insert any team all season but play Igloo for WS?? Joke

Why? Doesn’t the little league World Series do the same thing? It’s a tryout from each district made up of kids from several different teams. I hope they get a bunch of young 2026s as well. Legacy did an age appropriate team when the 2021s and took out the then better club teams in the final. Igloo Black Ice. If you are going find the best 24 players you can and win it. 91 is a favorite right now, why not put a team together to beat them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.
Igloo is a joke now.

Bigger joke is that their B team coach is the WS coach, hahahahaha.
Some teams hold open tryouts for the WSYL to fill in holes from hold backs who don’t qualify which is totally fine. But creating a whole new team specifically to compete in the tournament is against the rules on the website. Black Ops did exactly this for the U13 division. They took the best on age players from several clubs that didn’t have enough on age players to qualify on their own. The tournament allowed this for some reason. If the World Series doesn’t enforce their own rules then this will continue to happen, and in my opinion, it totally goes against the spirit of the tournament regardless of any rules that are In place.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.
Igloo is a joke now.

Bigger joke is that their B team coach is the WS coach, hahahahaha.

Is he not a good coach though?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some teams hold open tryouts for the WSYL to fill in holes from hold backs who don’t qualify which is totally fine. But creating a whole new team specifically to compete in the tournament is against the rules on the website. Black Ops did exactly this for the U13 division. They took the best on age players from several clubs that didn’t have enough on age players to qualify on their own. The tournament allowed this for some reason. If the World Series doesn’t enforce their own rules then this will continue to happen, and in my opinion, it totally goes against the spirit of the tournament regardless of any rules that are In place.

BBL does the same. Has a separate tryout for their WS team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some teams hold open tryouts for the WSYL to fill in holes from hold backs who don’t qualify which is totally fine. But creating a whole new team specifically to compete in the tournament is against the rules on the website. Black Ops did exactly this for the U13 division. They took the best on age players from several clubs that didn’t have enough on age players to qualify on their own. The tournament allowed this for some reason. If the World Series doesn’t enforce their own rules then this will continue to happen, and in my opinion, it totally goes against the spirit of the tournament regardless of any rules that are In place.

Nobody cares if it goes against the “spirit” of the games. If they accept these teams then it isn’t against the rules. If people don’t like it, they are free to not pay the money and not play in the tournament.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some teams hold open tryouts for the WSYL to fill in holes from hold backs who don’t qualify which is totally fine. But creating a whole new team specifically to compete in the tournament is against the rules on the website. Black Ops did exactly this for the U13 division. They took the best on age players from several clubs that didn’t have enough on age players to qualify on their own. The tournament allowed this for some reason. If the World Series doesn’t enforce their own rules then this will continue to happen, and in my opinion, it totally goes against the spirit of the tournament regardless of any rules that are In place.

Nobody cares if it goes against the “spirit” of the games. If they accept these teams then it isn’t against the rules. If people don’t like it, they are free to not pay the money and not play in the tournament.


So again just a few weeks ago tryouts were held for all 2027 LI teams. Now within a month or so there is a separate tryout again. What makes them think thise players will go to Igloo just for a WS team and not do their best with their current team? And how will those teams feel if player bails on their team to tryout for this Igloo team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some teams hold open tryouts for the WSYL to fill in holes from hold backs who don’t qualify which is totally fine. But creating a whole new team specifically to compete in the tournament is against the rules on the website. Black Ops did exactly this for the U13 division. They took the best on age players from several clubs that didn’t have enough on age players to qualify on their own. The tournament allowed this for some reason. If the World Series doesn’t enforce their own rules then this will continue to happen, and in my opinion, it totally goes against the spirit of the tournament regardless of any rules that are In place.

Nobody cares if it goes against the “spirit” of the games. If they accept these teams then it isn’t against the rules. If people don’t like it, they are free to not pay the money and not play in the tournament.


So again just a few weeks ago tryouts were held for all 2027 LI teams. Now within a month or so there is a separate tryout again. What makes them think thise players will go to Igloo just for a WS team and not do their best with their current team? And how will those teams feel if player bails on their team to tryout for this Igloo team?
How do you think those parents and players feel after being blindsided? As one of those parents we have already declined the invite after tryout. We may not make the WS with out current club but we'll take our chances playing as a team. What's next NLF only teams? WS only teams? This is everything that is wrong with youth lacrosse today.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some teams hold open tryouts for the WSYL to fill in holes from hold backs who don’t qualify which is totally fine. But creating a whole new team specifically to compete in the tournament is against the rules on the website. Black Ops did exactly this for the U13 division. They took the best on age players from several clubs that didn’t have enough on age players to qualify on their own. The tournament allowed this for some reason. If the World Series doesn’t enforce their own rules then this will continue to happen, and in my opinion, it totally goes against the spirit of the tournament regardless of any rules that are In place.

Nobody cares if it goes against the “spirit” of the games. If they accept these teams then it isn’t against the rules. If people don’t like it, they are free to not pay the money and not play in the tournament.


So again just a few weeks ago tryouts were held for all 2027 LI teams. Now within a month or so there is a separate tryout again. What makes them think thise players will go to Igloo just for a WS team and not do their best with their current team? And how will those teams feel if player bails on their team to tryout for this Igloo team?
How do you think those parents and players feel after being blindsided? As one of those parents we have already declined the invite after tryout. We may not make the WS with out current club but we'll take our chances playing as a team. What's next NLF only teams? WS only teams? This is everything that is wrong with youth lacrosse today.


Glad you stood your ground. I do not begrudge a program to be run like a business however parents need to act more like customers and less like sheep. Make more reasonable demands for your money or be willing to walk away.. So far that doesnt happen that often.
I thought BBl's tryout for the World Series team was limited to BBL players within the BBL organization?
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I thought BBl's tryout for the World Series team was limited to BBL players within the BBL organization?

Nope, they hold open tryouts.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

I agree. How do you then advertise hey we won the World Series but not really with our players??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

I agree. How do you then advertise hey we won the World Series but not really with our players??

Who was invited to this special Igloo tryout? And who made the WS team? I don’t see anything on their site?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

I agree. How do you then advertise hey we won the World Series but not really with our players??

I would also prefer my son to be coached by an A team coach, but not JC.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

I agree. How do you then advertise hey we won the World Series but not really with our players??

Who was invited to this special Igloo tryout? And who made the WS team? I don’t see anything on their site?

WORLD SERIES TRYOUTS
BEING HELD ON THE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10 AT CANTIAGUE PARK IN HICKSVILLE FROM 7PM TO 9PM! ITS OPEN TO ALL PLAYERS FROM ALL CLUBS WHOSE BIRTHDAYS FALL ON OR AFTER 9/1/2008!!!! YOU CAN ALSO REGISTER FOR THEM AT: http://igloolacrosse.sportssignup.com/site/
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

I agree. How do you then advertise hey we won the World Series but not really with our players??

Who was invited to this special Igloo tryout? And who made the WS team? I don’t see anything on their site?

WORLD SERIES TRYOUTS
BEING HELD ON THE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10 AT CANTIAGUE PARK IN HICKSVILLE FROM 7PM TO 9PM! ITS OPEN TO ALL PLAYERS FROM ALL CLUBS WHOSE BIRTHDAYS FALL ON OR AFTER 9/1/2008!!!! YOU CAN ALSO REGISTER FOR THEM AT: http://igloolacrosse.sportssignup.com/site/

You all know that winning the WSYL means nothing right? It is a cool experience and an over priced vacation for your family but in the grand scheme of things it means zero.
I would agree with everything you said. Although it might be a nice experience,,,WS is completely over rated and a money grab. It’s certainly not worth hurting your kids rep by playing for another’s teams WS team. I would assume most if not all organizations would frown upon you playing for another simultaneously. And never a good idea to be jumping around.
By making it or even winning is not going to assist your child getting a college scholarship In 5 years. Kids evolve and grow at different rates with some hitting puberty early while others hit late. So,,enjoy it if it’s there but don’t break the bank or ruin you rep by being ruthless.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

I agree. How do you then advertise hey we won the World Series but not really with our players??

Who was invited to this special Igloo tryout? And who made the WS team? I don’t see anything on their site?

WORLD SERIES TRYOUTS
BEING HELD ON THE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10 AT CANTIAGUE PARK IN HICKSVILLE FROM 7PM TO 9PM! ITS OPEN TO ALL PLAYERS FROM ALL CLUBS WHOSE BIRTHDAYS FALL ON OR AFTER 9/1/2008!!!! YOU CAN ALSO REGISTER FOR THEM AT: http://igloolacrosse.sportssignup.com/site/

You forgot to mention the amazing no name coaches.
This actually is a great idea. The bigger clubs have two to three teams at this age level. You might as well try out for this team because if your son is not on the the main A team for the club your not competing in the Tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

I agree. How do you then advertise hey we won the World Series but not really with our players??

Who was invited to this special Igloo tryout? And who made the WS team? I don’t see anything on their site?

WORLD SERIES TRYOUTS
BEING HELD ON THE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10 AT CANTIAGUE PARK IN HICKSVILLE FROM 7PM TO 9PM! ITS OPEN TO ALL PLAYERS FROM ALL CLUBS WHOSE BIRTHDAYS FALL ON OR AFTER 9/1/2008!!!! YOU CAN ALSO REGISTER FOR THEM AT: http://igloolacrosse.sportssignup.com/site/

You all know that winning the WSYL means nothing right? It is a cool experience and an over priced vacation for your family but in the grand scheme of things it means zero.


Only a marketing opportunity for the organization.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So your favorite penguin (Igloo) announced they are having a WSYL only team open to kids from any and all clubs. I assume that the result of this will be other club owners forbidding players from playing outside their club or following suit. This from a program who used to advertise themselves as the "anti travel" program, no more that 22 kids and only one team per age group.

Saw that email. I thought there was a WSYL rule about having to have played for the organization for a period of tine? If not this really will take away the legitimacy of the WS. I usually put them on a pedestal of verifying ages etc. Joke

I agree. How do you then advertise hey we won the World Series but not really with our players??

Who was invited to this special Igloo tryout? And who made the WS team? I don’t see anything on their site?

WORLD SERIES TRYOUTS
BEING HELD ON THE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10 AT CANTIAGUE PARK IN HICKSVILLE FROM 7PM TO 9PM! ITS OPEN TO ALL PLAYERS FROM ALL CLUBS WHOSE BIRTHDAYS FALL ON OR AFTER 9/1/2008!!!! YOU CAN ALSO REGISTER FOR THEM AT: http://igloolacrosse.sportssignup.com/site/

You forgot to mention the amazing no name coaches.
Anthony Alexander and Scott Snyder
WORLD SERIES TRYOUTS
BEING HELD ON THE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10 AT CANTIAGUE PARK IN HICKSVILLE FROM 7PM TO 9PM! ITS OPEN TO ALL PLAYERS FROM ALL CLUBS WHOSE BIRTHDAYS FALL ON OR AFTER 9/1/2008!!!! YOU CAN ALSO REGISTER FOR THEM AT: http://igloolacrosse.sportssignup.com/site/[/quote]

You forgot to mention the amazing no name coaches.[/quote]
Anthony Alexander and Scott Snyder[/quote]

NO THANKS. I would never have my kid tryout for those guys. Proof is in the pudding.
I believe the rosters from the little league World Series are made up of kids from different teams in each area. Same thing here, put the best in the district together and go play. I wish Maryland and Boston would do that and increase the competitiveness of the matchups.
I agree, an all-star team from the area would be good
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree, an all-star team from the area would be good

That would be cool, but it should be called the All-Star tournament.

And the World Series should prevent All-Star teams from competing in its tournament.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I believe the rosters from the little league World Series are made up of kids from different teams in each area. Same thing here, put the best in the district together and go play. I wish Maryland and Boston would do that and increase the competitiveness of the matchups.

Problem being is that they go with the banner of a particular club team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I believe the rosters from the little league World Series are made up of kids from different teams in each area. Same thing here, put the best in the district together and go play. I wish Maryland and Boston would do that and increase the competitiveness of the matchups.

Problem being is that they go with the banner of a particular club team.

But clubs like MDLX, Sweetlax, FCA etc all have national teams and do the same thing. Don’t understand the big deal.
Taking 3 kids from 8 different club teams to make up a super roster, defeats the purpose of the whole thing to begin with. Doing this and winning, isn’t so rewarding. The regional all star thing, making a different type of tournament, maybe. Although that was attempted with warrior a few years ago. That didn’t go so well either.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I believe the rosters from the little league World Series are made up of kids from different teams in each area. Same thing here, put the best in the district together and go play. I wish Maryland and Boston would do that and increase the competitiveness of the matchups.

Problem being is that they go with the banner of a particular club team.

But clubs like MDLX, Sweetlax, FCA etc all have national teams and do the same thing. Don’t understand the big deal.


Juat because they do it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. And if I am wrong than why do people give a garbage about rankings on these boards? Because if it is agreed that teams just cherry picking kids from all different orgamizations is OK then there definitely would be no credibility to rankings (even if there was now)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WORLD SERIES TRYOUTS
BEING HELD ON THE FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 10 AT CANTIAGUE PARK IN HICKSVILLE FROM 7PM TO 9PM! ITS OPEN TO ALL PLAYERS FROM ALL CLUBS WHOSE BIRTHDAYS FALL ON OR AFTER 9/1/2008!!!! YOU CAN ALSO REGISTER FOR THEM AT: http://igloolacrosse.sportssignup.com/site/

You forgot to mention the amazing no name coaches.[/quote]
Anthony Alexander and Scott Snyder[/quote]

NO THANKS. I would never have my kid tryout for those guys. Proof is in the pudding.[/quote]

Agreed. Both have developed their kids to be sub-par.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I believe the rosters from the little league World Series are made up of kids from different teams in each area. Same thing here, put the best in the district together and go play. I wish Maryland and Boston would do that and increase the competitiveness of the matchups.

Problem being is that they go with the banner of a particular club team.

But clubs like MDLX, Sweetlax, FCA etc all have national teams and do the same thing. Don’t understand the big deal.


Juat because they do it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. And if I am wrong than why do people give a garbage about rankings on these boards? Because if it is agreed that teams just cherry picking kids from all different orgamizations is OK then there definitely would be no credibility to rankings (even if there was now)

Rankings?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree, an all-star team from the area would be good

That would be cool, but it should be called the All-Star tournament.

And the World Series should prevent All-Star teams from competing in its tournament.

Absolutely
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree, an all-star team from the area would be good

That would be cool, but it should be called the All-Star tournament.

And the World Series should prevent All-Star teams from competing in its tournament.

Absolutely


There should be an All-star game that is played after the World Series. Two top kids from each team should be selected with campions getting to enter 3 kids. The coaches from the two teams in the WSYL championship game should be the coaches for the all-star game.

Only problem I see is that the daddy coaches shouldn’t be the ones to pick the top two kids from each team. Not sure how you get around that?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree, an all-star team from the area would be good

That would be cool, but it should be called the All-Star tournament.

And the World Series should prevent All-Star teams from competing in its tournament.

Absolutely


There should be an All-star game that is played after the World Series. Two top kids from each team should be selected with campions getting to enter 3 kids. The coaches from the two teams in the WSYL championship game should be the coaches for the all-star game.

Only problem I see is that the daddy coaches shouldn’t be the ones to pick the top two kids from each team. Not sure how you get around that?

I see your point. Could you imagine if the Igloo B coach puts his kid on the team. OMG
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree, an all-star team from the area would be good

That would be cool, but it should be called the All-Star tournament.

And the World Series should prevent All-Star teams from competing in its tournament.

Absolutely


There should be an All-star game that is played after the World Series. Two top kids from each team should be selected with campions getting to enter 3 kids. The coaches from the two teams in the WSYL championship game should be the coaches for the all-star game.

Only problem I see is that the daddy coaches shouldn’t be the ones to pick the top two kids from each team. Not sure how you get around that?

The all star teams are the top four teams at the wsyl. If you are not on those teams you are not an all star!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I agree, an all-star team from the area would be good

That would be cool, but it should be called the All-Star tournament.

And the World Series should prevent All-Star teams from competing in its tournament.

Why should they? People will obviously pay either way. There is no incentive to make any changes.
Kings - $800
Seems like the East Coast youth lax scene is exploiting the kids (and parents) for $$ gain. My son plays for the Kings and is coached by dads with college experience who are more invested in the boys and who don’t charge a dime to coach. The costs are $1500 or so for fall and summer, which includes tournament entry fees, practice field use and uniforms. Plus, there isn’t pushback from the organization if a player wants to play on a national team for a tournament or two. Tommyknockers are the same. These two organizations get the top players in Denver because they are all about the boys — not making $$ off them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Taking 3 kids from 8 different club teams to make up a super roster, defeats the purpose of the whole thing to begin with. Doing this and winning, isn’t so rewarding. The regional all star thing, making a different type of tournament, maybe. Although that was attempted with warrior a few years ago. That didn’t go so well either.

I think the Machine and Express parents are nervous !!!
Make a team and enter whats the problem ??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree, an all-star team from the area would be good

That would be cool, but it should be called the All-Star tournament.

And the World Series should prevent All-Star teams from competing in its tournament.

Absolutely


There should be an All-star game that is played after the World Series. Two top kids from each team should be selected with campions getting to enter 3 kids. The coaches from the two teams in the WSYL championship game should be the coaches for the all-star game.

Only problem I see is that the daddy coaches shouldn’t be the ones to pick the top two kids from each team. Not sure how you get around that?

The all star teams are the top four teams at the wsyl. If you are not on those teams you are not an all star!

Winner. Go play on the top 5 national ranked teams and you do not have to play for a national team. Your top 5 team will crush any national team and you save $$$. Only dingdongs play for multiple teams.
There should be an All-star game that is played after the World Series. Two top kids from each team should be selected with campions getting to enter 3 kids. The coaches from the two teams in the WSYL championship game should be the coaches for the all-star game.

Only problem I see is that the daddy coaches shouldn’t be the ones to pick the top two kids from each team. Not sure how you get around that?[/quote]

The all star teams are the top four teams at the wsyl. If you are not on those teams you are not an all star![/quote]

Winner. Go play on the top 5 national ranked teams and you do not have to play for a national team. Your top 5 team will crush any national team and you save $$$. Only dingdongs play for multiple teams.[/quote]

Clearly you have older sons like me, this is correct. Do not wast $ on national teams or showcases until sophomore and junior year. National teams lose to the top five and even ten best club teams. Just a money grab and no recruiting. And sc do very little. Go to college days hosted by the college in tenth grade. My oldest is playing mid level d1and all his friends too. Too many first time parents spend so much when all they have to do is have kid on best local club team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There should be an All-star game that is played after the World Series. Two top kids from each team should be selected with campions getting to enter 3 kids. The coaches from the two teams in the WSYL championship game should be the coaches for the all-star game.

Only problem I see is that the daddy coaches shouldn’t be the ones to pick the top two kids from each team. Not sure how you get around that?

The all star teams are the top four teams at the wsyl. If you are not on those teams you are not an all star![/quote]

Winner. Go play on the top 5 national ranked teams and you do not have to play for a national team. Your top 5 team will crush any national team and you save $$$. Only dingdongs play for multiple teams.[/quote]

Clearly you have older sons like me, this is correct. Do not wast $ on national teams or showcases until sophomore and junior year. National teams lose to the top five and even ten best club teams. Just a money grab and no recruiting. And sc do very little. Go to college days hosted by the college in tenth grade. My oldest is playing mid level d1and all his friends too. Too many first time parents spend so much when all they have to do is have kid on best local club team.[/quote]

Maybe you need to install some spell check but otherwise good advice for the novice parents.
91 charging almost 5K. I dare the Bearded one to prove me wrong. Team is good but overrated at this point.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 charging almost 5K. I dare the Bearded one to prove me wrong. Team is good but overrated at this point.

No seriously 5k ?? How much are others ? I know everyone by now knows the tuition cost let hear them !
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 charging almost 5K. I dare the Bearded one to prove me wrong. Team is good but overrated at this point.
Must offset for the 6 Daddy coaches Tuition free cost !!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There should be an All-star game that is played after the World Series. Two top kids from each team should be selected with campions getting to enter 3 kids. The coaches from the two teams in the WSYL championship game should be the coaches for the all-star game.

Only problem I see is that the daddy coaches shouldn’t be the ones to pick the top two kids from each team. Not sure how you get around that?

The all star teams are the top four teams at the wsyl. If you are not on those teams you are not an all star!

Winner. Go play on the top 5 national ranked teams and you do not have to play for a national team. Your top 5 team will crush any national team and you save $$$. Only dingdongs play for multiple teams.[/quote]

Clearly you have older sons like me, this is correct. Do not wast $ on national teams or showcases until sophomore and junior year. National teams lose to the top five and even ten best club teams. Just a money grab and no recruiting. And sc do very little. Go to college days hosted by the college in tenth grade. My oldest is playing mid level d1and all his friends too. Too many first time parents spend so much when all they have to do is have kid on best local club team.[/quote]

Maybe you need to install some spell check but otherwise good advice for the novice parents.[/quote]

Yup. Why so much competition to be on 91 and Express
The top clubs on Long Island - Express, S2S, 91, etc….$3,900.00 to $5,000.00
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 charging almost 5K. I dare the Bearded one to prove me wrong. Team is good but overrated at this point.

No seriously 5k ?? How much are others ? I know everyone by now knows the tuition cost let hear them !

CRICKETS 🦗
How much is the Igloo WS Tryout and is J.C the coach ?
S2S not even top five. Big step backward this year For all ages 91 and express are top. 3) No doubt Rebels- ever team has improved and the best deal around. They will dominate some younger ages and other will compete at AA level. 4) iglioo but have taken step back. 5) give to legacy because they have a few top teams test are B plus. They also play a cake schedule and tourneys they are involved in so they can make match ups. 6-7 S2S empire 8-10 true blue empire and turds
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 charging almost 5K. I dare the Bearded one to prove me wrong. Team is good but overrated at this point.

No seriously 5k ?? How much are others ? I know everyone by now knows the tuition cost let hear them !

CRICKETS 🦗



Who’s paying 5k lol that seems a bit high we aren’t paying close to that for 91 someone lied to you … maybe machine is 5k but not us
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 charging almost 5K. I dare the Bearded one to prove me wrong. Team is good but overrated at this point.

No seriously 5k ?? How much are others ? I know everyone by now knows the tuition cost let hear them !

CRICKETS 🦗



Who’s paying 5k lol that seems a bit high we aren’t paying close to that for 91 someone lied to you … maybe machine is 5k but not us

Hmm where all the Machine parents now ? You Say how they lose you hear them for 2 pages worth .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How much is the Igloo WS Tryout and is J.C the coach ?

No, they have their B team coach coaching. Total joke!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How much is the Igloo WS Tryout and is J.C the coach ?

No, they have their B team coach coaching. Total joke!!!!

Whats the cost of tryout ?
Free
Is 91 Machine 5K ? Any Machine parents here ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free

So I guess JC's team isn't good enough to enter. Might need to look for a coaching upgrade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free

So I guess JC's team isn't good enough to enter. Might need to look for a coaching upgrade.

Exactly, imagine being a igloo A player paying there rates for the team and this is proposed . Slap in the face . I would be looking for a new team ASAP .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free

So I guess JC's team isn't good enough to enter. Might need to look for a coaching upgrade.

Exactly, imagine being a igloo A player paying there rates for the team and this is proposed . Slap in the face . I would be looking for a new team ASAP .

Igloo is an embarrassment
Who would try out for that team? Aren't most of the best kids already on a team that is going to the world series qualifier? Curious who they think will be trying out for this team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free

So I guess JC's team isn't good enough to enter. Might need to look for a coaching upgrade.

Exactly, imagine being a igloo A player paying there rates for the team and this is proposed . Slap in the face . I would be looking for a new team ASAP .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who would try out for that team? Aren't most of the best kids already on a team that is going to the world series qualifier? Curious who they think will be trying out for this team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free

So I guess JC's team isn't good enough to enter. Might need to look for a coaching upgrade.

Exactly, imagine being a igloo A player paying there rates for the team and this is proposed . Slap in the face . I would be looking for a new team ASAP .

No most of the best kids are not already on World Series Qualifier teams . I know many the parents wont spend 4/5k plus thousands in traveling, hotels , tolls and food every weekend and live for it . Many are on other teams . There kids can hang and are better than those top team kids .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who would try out for that team? Aren't most of the best kids already on a team that is going to the world series qualifier? Curious who they think will be trying out for this team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free

So I guess JC's team isn't good enough to enter. Might need to look for a coaching upgrade.

Exactly, imagine being a igloo A player paying there rates for the team and this is proposed . Slap in the face . I would be looking for a new team ASAP .

Haha the biggest misconception that your son is on the “TOP” team that he is better than a kid on a low A or a B team . Parents are ridiculous.
Machine is a little over 4K, definitely not 5
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 charging almost 5K. I dare the Bearded one to prove me wrong. Team is good but overrated at this point.

No seriously 5k ?? How much are others ? I know everyone by now knows the tuition cost let hear them !

CRICKETS 🦗



Who’s paying 5k lol that seems a bit high we aren’t paying close to that for 91 someone lied to you … maybe machine is 5k but not us
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 charging almost 5K. I dare the Bearded one to prove me wrong. Team is good but overrated at this point.

No seriously 5k ?? How much are others ? I know everyone by now knows the tuition cost let hear them !

CRICKETS 🦗



Who’s paying 5k lol that seems a bit high we aren’t paying close to that for 91 someone lied to you … maybe machine is 5k but not us

I’m pretty sure that if 2027 A (Machine) is paying 5K, then B and C are also. The tuition is the same for the entire age group. They may not all get the same in regards to availability of fields and the indoor facility but they are all charged the same.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine is a little over 4K, definitely not 5

So your saying $4500 ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who would try out for that team? Aren't most of the best kids already on a team that is going to the world series qualifier? Curious who they think will be trying out for this team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Free

So I guess JC's team isn't good enough to enter. Might need to look for a coaching upgrade.

Exactly, imagine being a igloo A player paying there rates for the team and this is proposed . Slap in the face . I would be looking for a new team ASAP .

Haha the biggest misconception that your son is on the “TOP” team that he is better than a kid on a low A or a B team . Parents are ridiculous.

Another misconception is the coaches kid not being better than most others.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 charging almost 5K. I dare the Bearded one to prove me wrong. Team is good but overrated at this point.

No seriously 5k ?? How much are others ? I know everyone by now knows the tuition cost let hear them !

CRICKETS 🦗



Who’s paying 5k lol that seems a bit high we aren’t paying close to that for 91 someone lied to you … maybe machine is 5k but not us
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 charging almost 5K. I dare the Bearded one to prove me wrong. Team is good but overrated at this point.

No seriously 5k ?? How much are others ? I know everyone by now knows the tuition cost let hear them !

CRICKETS 🦗



Who’s paying 5k lol that seems a bit high we aren’t paying close to that for 91 someone lied to you … maybe machine is 5k but not us

I’m pretty sure that if 2027 A (Machine) is paying 5K, then B and C are also. The tuition is the same for the entire age group. They may not all get the same in regards to availability of fields and the indoor facility but they are all charged the same.

Exactly I know 91 is close to 4 grand but that’s it lol don’t know where this 5k came from
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Who would try out for that team? Aren't most of the best kids already on a team that is going to the world series qualifier? Curious who they think will be trying out for this team?
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Free

So I guess JC's team isn't good enough to enter. Might need to look for a coaching upgrade.

Exactly, imagine being a igloo A player paying there rates for the team and this is proposed . Slap in the face . I would be looking for a new team ASAP .

Haha the biggest misconception that your son is on the “TOP” team that he is better than a kid on a low A or a B team . Parents are ridiculous.

Another misconception is the coaches kid not being better than most others.
Thanks for your input AGAIN Rebels Dad! lmao
Anyone know how the Igloo World Series Tryouts go?
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Anyone know how the Igloo World Series Tryouts go?
Who cares.

What is more interesting is if there are any other clubs trying to create World Series teams with B team coaches taking spots from their A players.
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Anyone know how the Igloo World Series Tryouts go?

Worse business decision by an organization I ever saw. Have a tryout and then fee weeks later advertise anothe tryout.
I heard all the “A” players made the team and added some 2026 players. Plus, now there is an additional charge on top of the original tuition to be on the world series team - talk about double-dipping your players. What a joke, and highway robbery!
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Anyone know how the Igloo World Series Tryouts go?
Who cares.

What is more interesting is if there are any other clubs trying to create World Series teams with B team coaches taking spots from their A players.

Igloo really went downhill. Bad leadership.
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Anyone know how the Igloo World Series Tryouts go?
Who cares.

What is more interesting is if there are any other clubs trying to create World Series teams with B team coaches taking spots from their A players.

Igloo really went downhill. Bad leadership.

How would you like to be one of the 35 selected for an Igloo 2027 WSYL team from players all over LI. Keep in mind that the final roster only allows 24 kids. Oh wait, he did that to kids last year too. Now also keep in mind this is totally separate team and additional expense than the 2027 Igloo Kodiak Rush. Igloo can justify it any way they want, age eligible, other programs do it, Maryland does it, blah, blah, blah. For a program that used to advertise a different mission statement and being the anti-travel team. They are not anti anything. They are pro money, period. It begs the question is it really AA or does his advisory board have a financial stake in all these poor decisions. Sure seems like it.
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Anyone know how the Igloo World Series Tryouts go?
Who cares.

What is more interesting is if there are any other clubs trying to create World Series teams with B team coaches taking spots from their A players.

Igloo really went downhill. Bad leadership.

How would you like to be one of the 35 selected for an Igloo 2027 WSYL team from players all over LI. Keep in mind that the final roster only allows 24 kids. Oh wait, he did that to kids last year too. Now also keep in mind this is totally separate team and additional expense than the 2027 Igloo Kodiak Rush. Igloo can justify it any way they want, age eligible, other programs do it, Maryland does it, blah, blah, blah. For a program that used to advertise a different mission statement and being the anti-travel team. They are not anti anything. They are pro money, period. It begs the question is it really AA or does his advisory board have a financial stake in all these poor decisions. Sure seems like it.

AA is a banana. He's like Biden making all the wrong decisions over and over again.
Once any business puts money ahead of relationships, that is the beginning of the end.
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Anyone know how the Igloo World Series Tryouts go?
Who cares.

What is more interesting is if there are any other clubs trying to create World Series teams with B team coaches taking spots from their A players.

Igloo really went downhill. Bad leadership.

How would you like to be one of the 35 selected for an Igloo 2027 WSYL team from players all over LI. Keep in mind that the final roster only allows 24 kids. Oh wait, he did that to kids last year too. Now also keep in mind this is totally separate team and additional expense than the 2027 Igloo Kodiak Rush. Igloo can justify it any way they want, age eligible, other programs do it, Maryland does it, blah, blah, blah. For a program that used to advertise a different mission statement and being the anti-travel team. They are not anti anything. They are pro money, period. It begs the question is it really AA or does his advisory board have a financial stake in all these poor decisions. Sure seems like it.

Lack of ethical leadership. My guess is he's looking to boost numbers at all grades and cash out.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how the Igloo World Series Tryouts go?
Who cares.

What is more interesting is if there are any other clubs trying to create World Series teams with B team coaches taking spots from their A players.

Igloo really went downhill. Bad leadership.

How would you like to be one of the 35 selected for an Igloo 2027 WSYL team from players all over LI. Keep in mind that the final roster only allows 24 kids. Oh wait, he did that to kids last year too. Now also keep in mind this is totally separate team and additional expense than the 2027 Igloo Kodiak Rush. Igloo can justify it any way they want, age eligible, other programs do it, Maryland does it, blah, blah, blah. For a program that used to advertise a different mission statement and being the anti-travel team. They are not anti anything. They are pro money, period. It begs the question is it really AA or does his advisory board have a financial stake in all these poor decisions. Sure seems like it.

This is so sad. Nobody has integrity anymore. Are there any clubs that do it right??
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know how the Igloo World Series Tryouts go?
Who cares.

What is more interesting is if there are any other clubs trying to create World Series teams with B team coaches taking spots from their A players.

Igloo really went downhill. Bad leadership.

How would you like to be one of the 35 selected for an Igloo 2027 WSYL team from players all over LI. Keep in mind that the final roster only allows 24 kids. Oh wait, he did that to kids last year too. Now also keep in mind this is totally separate team and additional expense than the 2027 Igloo Kodiak Rush. Igloo can justify it any way they want, age eligible, other programs do it, Maryland does it, blah, blah, blah. For a program that used to advertise a different mission statement and being the anti-travel team. They are not anti anything. They are pro money, period. It begs the question is it really AA or does his advisory board have a financial stake in all these poor decisions. Sure seems like it.

This is so sad. Nobody has integrity anymore. Are there any clubs that do it right??

Yes, but definitely NOT Igloo. AA lost integrity a long time ago.
Rebels added 8 teams this year. Think about that for a while. It is a top all around program with the best communication, training, and practicing. Every team has min of 3 coaches. All teams at each age improved. Also had over 90 percent retention rate. Make your notIntelligent comments now. Better yet talk to parents that play with them. Hash tag ON THE RISE
Wake up Dorothy your not in Kansas!
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Rebels added 8 teams this year. Think about that for a while. It is a top all around program with the best communication, training, and practicing. Every team has min of 3 coaches. All teams at each age improved. Also had over 90 percent retention rate. Make your notIntelligent comments now. Better yet talk to parents that play with them. Hash tag ON THE RISE

Here we go again with Rebels posting rah rah on each grade thread
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Anyone know how the Igloo World Series Tryouts go?
Who cares.

What is more interesting is if there are any other clubs trying to create World Series teams with B team coaches taking spots from their A players.

Igloo really went downhill. Bad leadership.

How would you like to be one of the 35 selected for an Igloo 2027 WSYL team from players all over LI. Keep in mind that the final roster only allows 24 kids. Oh wait, he did that to kids last year too. Now also keep in mind this is totally separate team and additional expense than the 2027 Igloo Kodiak Rush. Igloo can justify it any way they want, age eligible, other programs do it, Maryland does it, blah, blah, blah. For a program that used to advertise a different mission statement and being the anti-travel team. They are not anti anything. They are pro money, period. It begs the question is it really AA or does his advisory board have a financial stake in all these poor decisions. Sure seems like it.

This is so sad. Nobody has integrity anymore. Are there any clubs that do it right??

Yes, but definitely NOT Igloo. AA lost integrity a long time ago.

So which clubs do it right??
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Rebels added 8 teams this year. Think about that for a while. It is a top all around program with the best communication, training, and practicing. Every team has min of 3 coaches. All teams at each age improved. Also had over 90 percent retention rate. Make your notIntelligent comments now. Better yet talk to parents that play with them. Hash tag ON THE RISE

Why is adding 8 teams a good thing??

I’m a believer in 1 team per age bracket. Clubs go off the rails when they start making AA, A, B ....
Your right losing teams is better. Turtles are where it’s at man. Only organization that owner looks like team name.
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Rebels added 8 teams this year. Think about that for a while. It is a top all around program with the best communication, training, and practicing. Every team has min of 3 coaches. All teams at each age improved. Also had over 90 percent retention rate. Make your notIntelligent comments now. Better yet talk to parents that play with them. Hash tag ON THE RISE

Here we go again with Rebels posting rah rah on each grade thread

Why do you care? Move on then.
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Rebels added 8 teams this year. Think about that for a while. It is a top all around program with the best communication, training, and practicing. Every team has min of 3 coaches. All teams at each age improved. Also had over 90 percent retention rate. Make your notIntelligent comments now. Better yet talk to parents that play with them. Hash tag ON THE RISE

Why is adding 8 teams a good thing??

I’m a believer in 1 team per age bracket. Clubs go off the rails when they start making AA, A, B ....

91, Express, etc have 2nd teams which can beat most teams anywhere in the USA.
91 does it right.
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Rebels added 8 teams this year. Think about that for a while. It is a top all around program with the best communication, training, and practicing. Every team has min of 3 coaches. All teams at each age improved. Also had over 90 percent retention rate. Make your notIntelligent comments now. Better yet talk to parents that play with them. Hash tag ON THE RISE

Thanks Rebels owner. How is that a good thing? All you did was add a bunch of B team coached by a group of part time wanna be coaches and Dads. Hashtag money grab.
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91 does it right.

They have the best 2nd team, then Express. Not sure who has the next best 2nd teams yet. There is a lot of parity now. @nd teams really can become top A teams as these kids get older. It all depends on how much emphasis the clubs put on training and getting better players.
Rebels coaching is great. Yes they added 2 Nd teams at all grades grade. Of coarse you will find something wrong with that. Every team practices/ trains 3-5 times a week. Again that has to be a negative. The Rebel owner works 16-18 hour days, no time for him to be posting.
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91 does it right.

They have the best 2nd team, then Express. Not sure who has the next best 2nd teams yet. There is a lot of parity now. @nd teams really can become top A teams as these kids get older. It all depends on how much emphasis the clubs put on training and getting better players.

Makes sense. Another factor for development is what top clubs with B teams have Daddy coaches? I would stay away from that situation. How are the coaches of the top 5: S2S, Express, 91, Rebels, Igloo
Rebels are top 5 ? I can’t wait until this season starts.
The Rebels just hosted the Blatant Fall Kick Off in DE last weekend. The 26 Rebels and 27 Rebels lost every single game. Despite having multiple teams and great coaches and being the team "on the rise" they went winless. Good luck with the whole top 5 thing.
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Rebels are top 5 ? I can’t wait until this season starts.
Who are the top 5 LI clubs in your opinion?
1 - 91 Machine
2 - Express Haugen

S2S, Igloo, Legacy, 91 Rage are all 2nd tier after those 2

then you have the Rebels.

Blatant had a tournament in DE this weekend and I believe the 26 rebels and the 27 rebels lost every game. somehow the results were deleted from tourney machine already.
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Rebels are top 5 ? I can’t wait until this season starts.
Who are the top 5 LI clubs in your opinion?

For this age I think it’s…

91
S2S
Legacy
Express
Rebels
Igloo

For general clubs I think it’s…

#1 91
Then 2-4 battles Express, Rebels, Igloo, Legacy
#6- S2S

Then everyone else
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91 does it right.

They have the best 2nd team, then Express. Not sure who has the next best 2nd teams yet. There is a lot of parity now. @nd teams really can become top A teams as these kids get older. It all depends on how much emphasis the clubs put on training and getting better players.

Makes sense. Another factor for development is what top clubs with B teams have Daddy coaches? I would stay away from that situation. How are the coaches of the top 5: S2S, Express, 91, Rebels, Igloo

Legacy is the only club listed above without a second team.
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1 - 91 Machine
2 - Express Haugen

S2S, Igloo, Legacy, 91 Rage are all 2nd tier after those 2

then you have the Rebels.

Blatant had a tournament in DE this weekend and I believe the 26 rebels and the 27 rebels lost every game. somehow the results were deleted from tourney machine already.

Who did they lose to if you were there?
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1 - 91 Machine
2 - Express Haugen

S2S, Igloo, Legacy, 91 Rage are all 2nd tier after those 2

then you have the Rebels.

Blatant had a tournament in DE this weekend and I believe the 26 rebels and the 27 rebels lost every game. somehow the results were deleted from tourney machine already.

Who did they lose to if you were there?

Believe rebels lost to jersey express by 1 or 2 and legacy by a few. Was good to get early games in, nothing to read into- these teams probably had a few practices each
How is Express Haugen listed as #2 ? They lost to Machine 11-2 last season.....
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How is Express Haugen listed as #2 ? They lost to Machine 11-2 last season.....

Because they likely have the best player in the grade and the best coaching, maybe…
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91 does it right.

They have the best 2nd team, then Express. Not sure who has the next best 2nd teams yet. There is a lot of parity now. @nd teams really can become top A teams as these kids get older. It all depends on how much emphasis the clubs put on training and getting better players.

Makes sense. Another factor for development is what top clubs with B teams have Daddy coaches? I would stay away from that situation. How are the coaches of the top 5: S2S, Express, 91, Rebels, Igloo

Legacy is the only club listed above without a second team.


They tried to form one after this tryout season
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 does it right.

They have the best 2nd team, then Express. Not sure who has the next best 2nd teams yet. There is a lot of parity now. @nd teams really can become top A teams as these kids get older. It all depends on how much emphasis the clubs put on training and getting better players.

Makes sense. Another factor for development is what top clubs with B teams have Daddy coaches? I would stay away from that situation. How are the coaches of the top 5: S2S, Express, 91, Rebels, Igloo

Legacy is the only club listed above without a second team.


They tried to form one after this tryout season

What happened? Weren't there plenty of kids at tryouts?
How many times a week is your son's 2027 team pacticing?
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How many times a week is your son's 2027 team pacticing?

Since it's football season we're only practicing 3x per week
Ranking 12 year old teams?? Lol Some of you guys need to do something for yourself. Sign up for a race 5k half marathon etc. Step away from the keyboard. Pathetic
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Ranking 12 year old teams?? Lol Some of you guys need to do something for yourself. Sign up for a race 5k half marathon etc. Step away from the keyboard. Pathetic

Good advice. Physical activity is important. Most people spend way too much time staring at a screen. Nothing wrong with a lacrosse chat though.
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91 does it right.

They have the best 2nd team, then Express. Not sure who has the next best 2nd teams yet. There is a lot of parity now. @nd teams really can become top A teams as these kids get older. It all depends on how much emphasis the clubs put on training and getting better players.

Makes sense. Another factor for development is what top clubs with B teams have Daddy coaches? I would stay away from that situation. How are the coaches of the top 5: S2S, Express, 91, Rebels, Igloo

Legacy is the only club listed above without a second team.


They tried to form one after this tryout season

What happened? Weren't there plenty of kids at tryouts?

Not for 2 teams.
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Ranking 12 year old teams?? Lol Some of you guys need to do something for yourself. Sign up for a race 5k half marathon etc. Step away from the keyboard. Pathetic
Be sure to check back in because, your not pathetic
It's very simple . If you want to avoid the sideline experts on this forum just go to the USCL website for the rankings . You won't have to come on here and listen to dads prop their sons teams up. If you do you'll see 91 machine and express as the top 2 teams . And yes, machine is the best team on long island by far at this time . The rankings seem to be pretty good in terms of strength of schedule score that taken into account etc....
Curious how the Igloo WSYL All Star tryout was. We already had our WSYL tryouts, it was our regular team, lol. Play with the guys you got. How is it that Igloo can get away with skirting the rules?
nobody going to be able to touch machine in wsyl.
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nobody going to be able to touch machine in wsyl.

Then why is my son's director telling us parents that we have a WSYL team and we're going to go and win?
Nobody is saying that. You want someone to ask who is that.
So Obvious, need to do better than that.
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nobody going to be able to touch machine in wsyl.

Then why is my son's director telling us parents that we have a WSYL team and we're going to go and win?

Which team?
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nobody going to be able to touch machine in wsyl.


Says the machine parent who has been talking about the wsyl for years now ...waiting to tell all of his family and friends that his son won the wsyl and is a reflection of his parents hahaha...get a life and stop living through your son
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nobody going to be able to touch machine in wsyl.

Then why is my son's director telling us parents that we have a WSYL team and we're going to go and win?

Which team?

Didn't the Kings beat up the machine in the summer?
Just like they were going to roll the NLF field! 😂
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nobody going to be able to touch machine in wsyl.

Then why is my son's director telling us parents that we have a WSYL team and we're going to go and win?

Which team?

Didn't the Kings beat up the machine in the summer?


Yes they absolutely did
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nobody going to be able to touch machine in wsyl.

Then why is my son's director telling us parents that we have a WSYL team and we're going to go and win?

You must be one of the 35 fools on Igloos everybody welcome regardless of affiliation all stars since they couldn't win with what they had in house. What happens they have to trim the all star roster to 24 kids? Will you get a refund? Will you try and move to another all star team? Igloo program has become everything that is wrong with youth lacrosse, especially on LI.
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nobody going to be able to touch machine in wsyl.

Then why is my son's director telling us parents that we have a WSYL team and we're going to go and win?

You must be one of the 35 fools on Igloos everybody welcome regardless of affiliation all stars since they couldn't win with what they had in house. What happens they have to trim the all star roster to 24 kids? Will you get a refund? Will you try and move to another all star team? Igloo program has become everything that is wrong with youth lacrosse, especially on LI.

Don't forget.... you get to be coached by the B team coach. Total joke of a program.
Then why is my son's director telling us parents that we have a WSYL team and we're going to go and win?[/quote]

You must be one of the 35 fools on Igloos everybody welcome regardless of affiliation all stars since they couldn't win with what they had in house. What happens they have to trim the all star roster to 24 kids? Will you get a refund? Will you try and move to another all star team? Igloo program has become everything that is wrong with youth lacrosse, especially on LI.[/quote]

Don't forget.... you get to be coached by the B team coach. Total joke of a program.[/quote]

Ha ha, that's exactly what I want for my son. Let's spend a few grand to go to WSYL which nobody cares about, and then get coached by that crew. NO THANKS.
Turtles losing 16-1 to a B team….. YIKES
Didnt Express have a lot of turnover from last years team
Favorite at Sweetlax tournament in DE this weekend ?
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Favorite at Sweetlax tournament in DE this weekend ?


Favorite to be the biggest lost parent at the tournament is definitely whoever is asking who will be the favorite at the tournament. Get a life or seek mental health please
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Favorite at Sweetlax tournament in DE this weekend ?


Favorite to be the biggest lost parent at the tournament is definitely whoever is asking who will be the favorite at the tournament. Get a life or seek mental health please

Seriously why would anyone come to a 2028 lax chat to discuss lax. lost. (Dripping in sarcasm)
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Favorite at Sweetlax tournament in DE this weekend ?


Favorite to be the biggest lost parent at the tournament is definitely whoever is asking who will be the favorite at the tournament. Get a life or seek mental health please

Seriously why would anyone come to a 2028 lax chat to discuss lax. lost. (Dripping in sarcasm)

Yes, please can we go back to notIntelligent rumors, private schools, slurping the Hoco and holdbacks, friggin clown
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Favorite at Sweetlax tournament in DE this weekend ?

Likely Express with what they added.
Roar!
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Roar!

hahahaha
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Favorite at Sweetlax tournament in DE this weekend ?


Favorite to be the biggest lost parent at the tournament is definitely whoever is asking who will be the favorite at the tournament. Get a life or seek mental health please

Seriously why would anyone come to a 2028 lax chat to discuss lax. lost. (Dripping in sarcasm)

Yes, please can we go back to notIntelligent rumors, private schools, slurping the Hoco and holdbacks, friggin clown

The irony of you coming back to read this board is completely lost on you isn’t it. Smh.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Favorite at Sweetlax tournament in DE this weekend ?


Favorite to be the biggest lost parent at the tournament is definitely whoever is asking who will be the favorite at the tournament. Get a life or seek mental health please

Seriously why would anyone come to a 2028 lax chat to discuss lax. lost. (Dripping in sarcasm)

Yes, please can we go back to notIntelligent rumors, private schools, slurping the Hoco and holdbacks, friggin clown

The irony of you coming back to read this board is completely lost on you isn’t it. Smh.

This from the guy who makes the same kind of inane comments on 5 different threads on this site, clown
What did Express add?
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What did Express add?

They added a 4th team at 2027 age group.
Anyone know if WSYL is still happening next summer? No qualifiers scheduled yet.
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Anyone know if WSYL is still happening next summer? No qualifiers scheduled yet.

I presume it is because it is all what LI Lax clubs talk about so they can boost marketing for the next year if they qualify and maybe 1 team has a chance to win it and maybe 3-4 a chance to qualify. Southern NY, CT, and MA teams will rain on the parade of a bunch of LI teams
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Anyone know if WSYL is still happening next summer? No qualifiers scheduled yet.

I presume it is because it is all what LI Lax clubs talk about so they can boost marketing for the next year if they qualify and maybe 1 team has a chance to win it and maybe 3-4 a chance to qualify. Southern NY, CT, and MA teams will rain on the parade of a bunch of LI teams

Isn’t the Igloo B WSYL team going to win it all? LMAO
Which teams NOT from LI are planning on going to the WSYL NORTH Qualifier?

I presume Eclipse, 2Way Primetime, Express North, Sweetlax, Laxachussetts?? Any others?
A womens lacrosse player lost her life in a "tragic accident" this week. Instead of bashing each other and worrying about the small stuff like rankings, etc... We should take a step back and remember what's truly important.
Would it be fair to say '27 LI pecking order is as follows:(?)
Machine
Rage
Express
Igloo

Thank you. Not a 27 parent asking the Q...
Remove rage and add Rebels at # 4
S2S is much better than Igloo or Rage. Rebels I almost died from laughter …please stop
2027 order:
Machine
S2S
Express
Rage
Legacy
Igloo
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2027 order:
Machine
S2S
Express
Rage
Legacy
Igloo

Have any kids committed to college yet?
Rage hasn't even played a tournament yet and they had 1/2 dozen kid turnover, how are they even in the conversation at this point? They may have gotten worse, they may have gotten better, no one knows except the Daddys on this site that go to the practices and drink the ponytail kool-aid.

Rebels are a joke. They tied Mooselax last week 4-4 and squeaked by Northport town team to "win" the tournament by a score of 5-4. Many of the NP good players were in Delaware at Sweetlax tourney, so Rebels beat a glorified PAL team by one goal. Please remove them from the conversation.

Legacy only beat the Rebels 4-3 on Columbus Day (we have already established what a joke the Rebels are) and they lost to 2Way Black in 2 games at that same tourney by a combined score of 25-3. Please remove them from the conversation.

Igloo Kodiak was terrible last year and lost several times to their own B team. They turned over some of that team, but the baseline stunk so odds are they may only be marginally better. For those of you that keep knocking the Igloo B team coach, he is hands down the best coach in this age group, and he coaches the B team because his son is a B team level player and he knows that (and he gives his son zero preferential treatment unlike the rest of these Daddy coaches). Full disclosure, I am NOT an Igloo parent.

The real order is Machine, S2S Grizzlies, Express Haugen where those teams were ranked last year and all either are status quo with their teams or added talent to get better. After that, the field on LI is wide open with some B teams even in the mix over some of the so-called A level teams as mentioned above.

Only results of the next 6 weeks worth of tournaments can determine the Fall rankings heading into Spring. Trying to do it without any of the results of Fall 2021 tourney play is like me trying to convince my 2027 lax son that Santa still brings his presents on Christmas morning.

You all know I am right. You can try to tell me I am not because your son is the "star" on one of the teams that is NOT in the top 3, but you would be wrong, and you know it.
Talk about being full of themselves. Hey look it’s the lacrosse guru!!!
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Rage hasn't even played a tournament yet and they had 1/2 dozen kid turnover, how are they even in the conversation at this point? They may have gotten worse, they may have gotten better, no one knows except the Daddys on this site that go to the practices and drink the ponytail kool-aid.

Rebels are a joke. They tied Mooselax last week 4-4 and squeaked by Northport town team to "win" the tournament by a score of 5-4. Many of the NP good players were in Delaware at Sweetlax tourney, so Rebels beat a glorified PAL team by one goal. Please remove them from the conversation.

Legacy only beat the Rebels 4-3 on Columbus Day (we have already established what a joke the Rebels are) and they lost to 2Way Black in 2 games at that same tourney by a combined score of 25-3. Please remove them from the conversation.

Igloo Kodiak was terrible last year and lost several times to their own B team. They turned over some of that team, but the baseline stunk so odds are they may only be marginally better. For those of you that keep knocking the Igloo B team coach, he is hands down the best coach in this age group, and he coaches the B team because his son is a B team level player and he knows that (and he gives his son zero preferential treatment unlike the rest of these Daddy coaches). Full disclosure, I am NOT an Igloo parent.

The real order is Machine, S2S Grizzlies, Express Haugen where those teams were ranked last year and all either are status quo with their teams or added talent to get better. After that, the field on LI is wide open with some B teams even in the mix over some of the so-called A level teams as mentioned above.

Only results of the next 6 weeks worth of tournaments can determine the Fall rankings heading into Spring. Trying to do it without any of the results of Fall 2021 tourney play is like me trying to convince my 2027 lax son that Santa still brings his presents on Christmas morning.

You all know I am right. You can try to tell me I am not because your son is the "star" on one of the teams that is NOT in the top 3, but you would be wrong, and you know it.


You obviously have too much time on your hands to write this or think about it or your are a first class sandbagget at work.

You obviously must think that parents choose teams soley that they are top 3 or 4 or even 5 team. As if all players on those top teams are the best 25 players around. Many people care more about players developing than riding the bench to obscurity. I cant even explain it because I bet it won't register with you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rage hasn't even played a tournament yet and they had 1/2 dozen kid turnover, how are they even in the conversation at this point? They may have gotten worse, they may have gotten better, no one knows except the Daddys on this site that go to the practices and drink the ponytail kool-aid.

Rebels are a joke. They tied Mooselax last week 4-4 and squeaked by Northport town team to "win" the tournament by a score of 5-4. Many of the NP good players were in Delaware at Sweetlax tourney, so Rebels beat a glorified PAL team by one goal. Please remove them from the conversation.

Legacy only beat the Rebels 4-3 on Columbus Day (we have already established what a joke the Rebels are) and they lost to 2Way Black in 2 games at that same tourney by a combined score of 25-3. Please remove them from the conversation.

Igloo Kodiak was terrible last year and lost several times to their own B team. They turned over some of that team, but the baseline stunk so odds are they may only be marginally better. For those of you that keep knocking the Igloo B team coach, he is hands down the best coach in this age group, and he coaches the B team because his son is a B team level player and he knows that (and he gives his son zero preferential treatment unlike the rest of these Daddy coaches). Full disclosure, I am NOT an Igloo parent.

The real order is Machine, S2S Grizzlies, Express Haugen where those teams were ranked last year and all either are status quo with their teams or added talent to get better. After that, the field on LI is wide open with some B teams even in the mix over some of the so-called A level teams as mentioned above.

Only results of the next 6 weeks worth of tournaments can determine the Fall rankings heading into Spring. Trying to do it without any of the results of Fall 2021 tourney play is like me trying to convince my 2027 lax son that Santa still brings his presents on Christmas morning.

You all know I am right. You can try to tell me I am not because your son is the "star" on one of the teams that is NOT in the top 3, but you would be wrong, and you know it.


You can bash the guy who wrote this all day long to your hearts content but he is absolutely 100% correct.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rage hasn't even played a tournament yet and they had 1/2 dozen kid turnover, how are they even in the conversation at this point? They may have gotten worse, they may have gotten better, no one knows except the Daddys on this site that go to the practices and drink the ponytail kool-aid.

Rebels are a joke. They tied Mooselax last week 4-4 and squeaked by Northport town team to "win" the tournament by a score of 5-4. Many of the NP good players were in Delaware at Sweetlax tourney, so Rebels beat a glorified PAL team by one goal. Please remove them from the conversation.

Legacy only beat the Rebels 4-3 on Columbus Day (we have already established what a joke the Rebels are) and they lost to 2Way Black in 2 games at that same tourney by a combined score of 25-3. Please remove them from the conversation.

Igloo Kodiak was terrible last year and lost several times to their own B team. They turned over some of that team, but the baseline stunk so odds are they may only be marginally better. For those of you that keep knocking the Igloo B team coach, he is hands down the best coach in this age group, and he coaches the B team because his son is a B team level player and he knows that (and he gives his son zero preferential treatment unlike the rest of these Daddy coaches). Full disclosure, I am NOT an Igloo parent.

The real order is Machine, S2S Grizzlies, Express Haugen where those teams were ranked last year and all either are status quo with their teams or added talent to get better. After that, the field on LI is wide open with some B teams even in the mix over some of the so-called A level teams as mentioned above.

Only results of the next 6 weeks worth of tournaments can determine the Fall rankings heading into Spring. Trying to do it without any of the results of Fall 2021 tourney play is like me trying to convince my 2027 lax son that Santa still brings his presents on Christmas morning.

You all know I am right. You can try to tell me I am not because your son is the "star" on one of the teams that is NOT in the top 3, but you would be wrong, and you know it.

OK, how many holdbacks on the "Big 3" you have listed will be age eligible for the WSYL Qualifiers..i don't believe Machine has any but the other 2 it definitely will trim down their rosters.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rage hasn't even played a tournament yet and they had 1/2 dozen kid turnover, how are they even in the conversation at this point? They may have gotten worse, they may have gotten better, no one knows except the Daddys on this site that go to the practices and drink the ponytail kool-aid.

Rebels are a joke. They tied Mooselax last week 4-4 and squeaked by Northport town team to "win" the tournament by a score of 5-4. Many of the NP good players were in Delaware at Sweetlax tourney, so Rebels beat a glorified PAL team by one goal. Please remove them from the conversation.

Legacy only beat the Rebels 4-3 on Columbus Day (we have already established what a joke the Rebels are) and they lost to 2Way Black in 2 games at that same tourney by a combined score of 25-3. Please remove them from the conversation.

Igloo Kodiak was terrible last year and lost several times to their own B team. They turned over some of that team, but the baseline stunk so odds are they may only be marginally better. For those of you that keep knocking the Igloo B team coach, he is hands down the best coach in this age group, and he coaches the B team because his son is a B team level player and he knows that (and he gives his son zero preferential treatment unlike the rest of these Daddy coaches). Full disclosure, I am NOT an Igloo parent.

The real order is Machine, S2S Grizzlies, Express Haugen where those teams were ranked last year and all either are status quo with their teams or added talent to get better. After that, the field on LI is wide open with some B teams even in the mix over some of the so-called A level teams as mentioned above.

Only results of the next 6 weeks worth of tournaments can determine the Fall rankings heading into Spring. Trying to do it without any of the results of Fall 2021 tourney play is like me trying to convince my 2027 lax son that Santa still brings his presents on Christmas morning.

You all know I am right. You can try to tell me I am not because your son is the "star" on one of the teams that is NOT in the top 3, but you would be wrong, and you know it.

OK, how many holdbacks on the "Big 3" you have listed will be age eligible for the WSYL Qualifiers..i don't believe Machine has any but the other 2 it definitely will trim down their rosters.


Here we go, the 91 kool aid drinkers are alive and kicking. Worry about your own team not other teams . Already crying about holdbacks etc....get a grip .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rage hasn't even played a tournament yet and they had 1/2 dozen kid turnover, how are they even in the conversation at this point? They may have gotten worse, they may have gotten better, no one knows except the Daddys on this site that go to the practices and drink the ponytail kool-aid.

Rebels are a joke. They tied Mooselax last week 4-4 and squeaked by Northport town team to "win" the tournament by a score of 5-4. Many of the NP good players were in Delaware at Sweetlax tourney, so Rebels beat a glorified PAL team by one goal. Please remove them from the conversation.

Legacy only beat the Rebels 4-3 on Columbus Day (we have already established what a joke the Rebels are) and they lost to 2Way Black in 2 games at that same tourney by a combined score of 25-3. Please remove them from the conversation.

Igloo Kodiak was terrible last year and lost several times to their own B team. They turned over some of that team, but the baseline stunk so odds are they may only be marginally better. For those of you that keep knocking the Igloo B team coach, he is hands down the best coach in this age group, and he coaches the B team because his son is a B team level player and he knows that (and he gives his son zero preferential treatment unlike the rest of these Daddy coaches). Full disclosure, I am NOT an Igloo parent.

The real order is Machine, S2S Grizzlies, Express Haugen where those teams were ranked last year and all either are status quo with their teams or added talent to get better. After that, the field on LI is wide open with some B teams even in the mix over some of the so-called A level teams as mentioned above.

Only results of the next 6 weeks worth of tournaments can determine the Fall rankings heading into Spring. Trying to do it without any of the results of Fall 2021 tourney play is like me trying to convince my 2027 lax son that Santa still brings his presents on Christmas morning.

You all know I am right. You can try to tell me I am not because your son is the "star" on one of the teams that is NOT in the top 3, but you would be wrong, and you know it.

OK, how many holdbacks on the "Big 3" you have listed will be age eligible for the WSYL Qualifiers..i don't believe Machine has any but the other 2 it definitely will trim down their rosters.


I have never heard of a club that thinks they're the best (team 91) cry and whine so much about other teams . It's really sad .
Let’s see how many Machine kids play with Rage next week?
None, Machine will be playing in PA
Playing where, not on web site?
Rage needs some work to get back to where they were last year as a team...underwent some turnover and is a somewhat different team.
Why not play in your back yard, against the good competition???? Tell me - I do not understand that??? At least LIE plays the best around.
Who’s the best player you’re referring to??? Heard Express lost some talent from last years team.
Who has the LIE played that the Machine haven’t?
They could be playing good competition (LIE, Eclipse, BBL or S2S) this weekend, not travel but are instead going to play in PA. Why?!
Machine going to PA to play awful teams ....go see for yourself in tourney machine (Pennsylvania). That's their style , beat up on bad teams , then pat each other on the back and say " were the best we crush everyone" . Sad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who’s the best player you’re referring to??? Heard Express lost some talent from last years team.


Express lost one really good player but gained a few since you're interested in knowing about their roster . Sad 91 parents. Have fun playing the rebels and going to PA to play 91 Maryland lol
The best phrase I have heard from the 91 parents is " not our fault we are in weak brackets , other teams are afraid to play us and pull out of tournaments" lol.....that's classic .

The second best phrase is used when they lose a game " the other team has holdbacks , the kids drive themselves to the game"...hahaha
Do you even know how many games Machine has lost in their 4-5 year existence?

They have never lost to 2027 LIE, S2S, BBL, and Eclipse.
Fall ball time! The boards are heating up!
Sad your using words like awful to describe 12 year old kids…come on be better than that
[quote=Anonymous]Do you even know how many games Machine has lost in their 4-5 year existence?

They have never lost to 2027 LIE, S2S, BBL, and Eclipse.[/quote

Funny you mention that, I heard that the Machine kids can actually walk on water, that they pee excellence and every time they score a goal an angel gets their wings. Only a completely self obsessed 91 parent would think anyone is sitting around tracking that teams losses, you probably chart your kids stats on spreadsheet and stare at it like it’s Gisele Bundchen. Figure it out dude
Obviously you’re one of those pathetic parents that has beer muscles on the phone and only you’re input matters. Relax Count Chocula! Peter Pan!
Telephone tough guy telling someone to figure it out. Making assumptions regarding people posting on this site. Falsely accusing people of living vicariously through their offspring. While all along posting meritless propaganda about organizations they have never been a part of. Okay I’ll figure it out!
Just announced...the WSYL is done and will not happen in 2022.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just announced...the WSYL is done and will not happen in 2022.
So are the clubs that tried to put together superteams giving refunds?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just announced...the WSYL is done and will not happen in 2022.

Too bad....I still remember watching Team 91 won the 1st event - I could not believe how good the kids were. It was an eye opener for me.
The team you are referring to that won the inaugural event was 91 Crush '20. They were truly one of the best club teams ever. The only other team to this day as dominant (and perhaps more so) was the original Tenacious Turtles that reigned supreme pre WSL...
Turtle Man pops his ugly head out of shell again.
Face it Turtles are extinct
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just announced...the WSYL is done and will not happen in 2022.
So are the clubs that tried to put together superteams giving refunds?

How do those igloo parents feel now
They lost to the Kings 10-3 at NLF last summer. Didn’t even make the bracket. The game wasn’t even that close.
Just when a non-East Coast team was going to win (either the Colorado Kings or Texas Mustangs) they cancel the WSL. And the Nationals team (made up of Kings, Mustangs and a couple Hawks players) was kicked out of the Club Lacrosse Nationals by Madlax. Coincidence?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Telephone tough guy telling someone to figure it out. Making assumptions regarding people posting on this site. Falsely accusing people of living vicariously through their offspring. While all along posting meritless propaganda about organizations they have never been a part of. Okay I’ll figure it out!

Hahahaha, obviously touched a sore spot, it’s OK little snowflake, winter is almost here and your tender 91 sensibilities can go back to the island
The Mustangs are an embarrassment. Same with Nationals. Have not seen Kings.

Pathetic that USL or tourney organizers or club directors don’t mandate age requirements. The mustangs were not great - just 2 yrs older... but it all evens out over time and those kids playing down won’t benefit long term by beating up on their little brothers. 7 of 9 times, the young we bros end up tougher and more skilled.

That’s was what was nice about the wsyl.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Mustangs are an embarrassment. Same with Nationals. Have not seen Kings.

Pathetic that USL or tourney organizers or club directors don’t mandate age requirements. The mustangs were not great - just 2 yrs older... but it all evens out over time and those kids playing down won’t benefit long term by beating up on their little brothers. 7 of 9 times, the young we bros end up tougher and more skilled.

That’s was what was nice about the wsyl.

Kings are on age, had a WSYL team, had all their horses on that WSYL team and were going to win it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Mustangs are an embarrassment. Same with Nationals. Have not seen Kings.

Pathetic that USL or tourney organizers or club directors don’t mandate age requirements. The mustangs were not great - just 2 yrs older... but it all evens out over time and those kids playing down won’t benefit long term by beating up on their little brothers. 7 of 9 times, the young we bros end up tougher and more skilled.

That’s was what was nice about the wsyl.

Kings are on age, had a WSYL team, had all their horses on that WSYL team and were going to win it.

The Kings have several holdbacks dingbat. My son played on this team so don’t even go there. That’s laughable.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Mustangs are an embarrassment. Same with Nationals. Have not seen Kings.

Pathetic that USL or tourney organizers or club directors don’t mandate age requirements. The mustangs were not great - just 2 yrs older... but it all evens out over time and those kids playing down won’t benefit long term by beating up on their little brothers. 7 of 9 times, the young we bros end up tougher and more skilled.

That’s was what was nice about the wsyl.

Kings are on age, had a WSYL team, had all their horses on that WSYL team and were going to win it.

The Kings have several holdbacks dingbat. My son played on this team so don’t even go there. That’s laughable.

The colorado kings don’t have “several holdbacks”. Give it a rest. Just not true. Their best players are of age and were on the WSYL team that has been practicing for months. The roster hasn’t turned over so who exactly is your kid? Cause they don’t have kids “who played on the team”. Only kids “who play”. holdbacks aren’t a thing in colorado. And not sure I’ve heard anyone from colorado use the term “dingbat”. I think that’s reserved for the east coast.
Agreed. I believe the Kings have a few players born in July and August that wouldn’t be eligible for the WSYL but not the definition of a “holdback” as you do it out East. My son played against 15 and 16 year olds last year from Hawks and Sweetlax as a 2026. A full year or two older. That is a holdback. And the clown that said his kid played on the Kings is a troll. No kids have left the team.
Very difficult time for 91 machine parents....they're all depressed now . Talked about the wsyl to their friends and family for 5 years and now it's gone . Very sad time for the bling industry. No more orders for blinged out shirts
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Mustangs are an embarrassment. Same with Nationals. Have not seen Kings.

Pathetic that USL or tourney organizers or club directors don’t mandate age requirements. The mustangs were not great - just 2 yrs older... but it all evens out over time and those kids playing down won’t benefit long term by beating up on their little brothers. 7 of 9 times, the young we bros end up tougher and more skilled.

That’s was what was nice about the wsyl.

Kings are on age, had a WSYL team, had all their horses on that WSYL team and were going to win it.

The Kings have several holdbacks dingbat. My son played on this team so don’t even go there. That’s laughable.

The colorado kings don’t have “several holdbacks”. Give it a rest. Just not true. Their best players are of age and were on the WSYL team that has been practicing for months. The roster hasn’t turned over so who exactly is your kid? Cause they don’t have kids “who played on the team”. Only kids “who play”. holdbacks aren’t a thing in colorado. And not sure I’ve heard anyone from colorado use the term “dingbat”. I think that’s reserved for the east coast.


Don't worry about or respond to the 91 machine parents crying about kings . They got beat so they go to one excuse as always " holdbacks ". Same excuse different year . They just can't understand the fact that they're actually beatable when they play better teams . And the crying is actually coming from the 91 machine parents who for years walked around saying " we play up one year because we're too good for our own age bracket ". But then a team beats them and they cry " holdbacks ". Too brainless to understand what they're even saying . Sad
91 trashy parents with their bedazzled jerseys are gross. But holdbacks are even more pathetic. Funny to read from the kings parent how “their best players are of age” … sure not true but even so, why have them then ??? Because they improve your teams chances of winning… duhhhh
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 trashy parents with their bedazzled jerseys are gross. But holdbacks are even more pathetic. Funny to read from the kings parent how “their best players are of age” … sure not true but even so, why have them then ??? Because they improve your teams chances of winning… duhhhh

hi newbies. I have an older kid. heads up by the time this group reaches 9th grade almost the entire roster will be 2008 birthdays. Kids from out of state, guest players, etc. Care less about about winning games and focus solely on your kid getting better. And if your kid is spring/summer 2009 start thinking about holding back because you have a slim shot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]91 trashy parents with their bedazzled jerseys are gross. But holdbacks are even more pathetic. Funny to read from the kings parent how “their best players are of age” … sure not true but even so, why have them then ??? Because they improve your teams chances of winning… duhhhh

hi newbies. I have an older kid. heads up by the time this group reaches 9th grade almost the entire roster will be 2008 birthdays. Kids from out of state, guest players, etc. Care less about about winning games and focus solely on your kid getting better. And if your kid is spring/summer 2009 start thinking about holding back because you have a slim shot.

I agree 1000%, I’d hold my kid back 2 more times if I could, heck I’d like to see him drive to his first day of high school. Those of you that complain the most about holdbacks are definitely so angry for 2 reasons. One, your wife won’t let you and she keeps your stones in a jar on her night table. Two, you can’t afford the $5k for Catholic or cyber school to pull this off and you’re angry. But it’s OK, the view from your high horse makes you feel like more of a man I guess. Your BS sense of honor and $2 will get you a cup of coffee. Look for me showing up at the next tournament with my 27’ son driving me there in my $70k Jeep with his learners permit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just announced...the WSYL is done and will not happen in 2022.

What will people talk about now...bubble burst on Long Island
Is tristar happening this weekend?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]91 trashy parents with their bedazzled jerseys are gross. But holdbacks are even more pathetic. Funny to read from the kings parent how “their best players are of age” … sure not true but even so, why have them then ??? Because they improve your teams chances of winning… duhhhh

hi newbies. I have an older kid. heads up by the time this group reaches 9th grade almost the entire roster will be 2008 birthdays. Kids from out of state, guest players, etc. Care less about about winning games and focus solely on your kid getting better. And if your kid is spring/summer 2009 start thinking about holding back because you have a slim shot.

I agree 1000%, I’d hold my kid back 2 more times if I could, heck I’d like to see him drive to his first day of high school. Those of you that complain the most about holdbacks are definitely so angry for 2 reasons. One, your wife won’t let you and she keeps your stones in a jar on her night table. Two, you can’t afford the $5k for Catholic or cyber school to pull this off and you’re angry. But it’s OK, the view from your high horse makes you feel like more of a man I guess. Your BS sense of honor and $2 will get you a cup of coffee. Look for me showing up at the next tournament with my 27’ son driving me there in my $70k Jeep with his learners permit.

Gross! And, this is what’s wrong with this sport … parents like you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]91 trashy parents with their bedazzled jerseys are gross. But holdbacks are even more pathetic. Funny to read from the kings parent how “their best players are of age” … sure not true but even so, why have them then ??? Because they improve your teams chances of winning… duhhhh

hi newbies. I have an older kid. heads up by the time this group reaches 9th grade almost the entire roster will be 2008 birthdays. Kids from out of state, guest players, etc. Care less about about winning games and focus solely on your kid getting better. And if your kid is spring/summer 2009 start thinking about holding back because you have a slim shot.

I agree 1000%, I’d hold my kid back 2 more times if I could, heck I’d like to see him drive to his first day of high school. Those of you that complain the most about holdbacks are definitely so angry for 2 reasons. One, your wife won’t let you and she keeps your stones in a jar on her night table. Two, you can’t afford the $5k for Catholic or cyber school to pull this off and you’re angry. But it’s OK, the view from your high horse makes you feel like more of a man I guess. Your BS sense of honor and $2 will get you a cup of coffee. Look for me showing up at the next tournament with my 27’ son driving me there in my $70k Jeep with his learners permit.

Please tell me where I can get my kid into Catholic school for $5k these days! I can tell you it’s nowhere with decent lacrosse, so good luck, and that’s another reason you’ll need to hold your kid back a few times.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2027 order:
Machine
S2S
Express
Rage
Legacy
Igloo
It looks like many of these teams will be at NAL next weekend. So we’ll be able to determine the order then.
That was satire - couldn’t possibly be serious. I got faith…
What's the real story of why the WSYL was canceled?
NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?

That reminds me, heard Machine had to go to OT to get a win up in Philly last weekend. Not a full roster?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?

That reminds me, heard Machine had to go to OT to get a win up in Philly last weekend. Not a full roster?


How about they’re just beatable….got beat over the summer as well and cried of holdbacks when the other team only had one holdback. That’s what happens when they go out of “ my lollipop tournaments “ , they’re beatable . And apparently they don’t “ play up “ anymore aft they took a couple of beat downs from real 2026 A teams .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?

That reminds me, heard Machine had to go to OT to get a win up in Philly last weekend. Not a full roster?


How about they’re just beatable….got beat over the summer as well and cried of holdbacks when the other team only had one holdback. That’s what happens when they go out of “ my lollipop tournaments “ , they’re beatable . And apparently they don’t “ play up “ anymore aft they took a couple of beat downs from real 2026 A teams .

WE ARE NOT BEATABLE. It was a fluke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?

That reminds me, heard Machine had to go to OT to get a win up in Philly last weekend. Not a full roster?


How about they’re just beatable….got beat over the summer as well and cried of holdbacks when the other team only had one holdback. That’s what happens when they go out of “ my lollipop tournaments “ , they’re beatable . And apparently they don’t “ play up “ anymore aft they took a couple of beat downs from real 2026 A teams .

WE ARE NOT BEATABLE. It was a fluke.

Classic comment - hysterical!!
This board is great!

Like them or not, Machine is a great team that has kept it tight and honed their craft for many years. Got to respect that.

No affiliation with Machine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This board is great!

Like them or not, Machine is a great team that has kept it tight and honed their craft for many years. Got to respect that.

No affiliation with Machine.

Yeah OK Machine #1 dad

Who makes the pools for NAL? Machine gets the lollipop pool while they throw Hawks, Maddog, LIE and BBL in another to beat the garbage out of each other
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This board is great!

Like them or not, Machine is a great team that has kept it tight and honed their craft for many years. Got to respect that.

No affiliation with Machine.

Yeah OK Machine #1 dad

Who makes the pools for NAL? Machine gets the lollipop pool while they throw Hawks, Maddog, LIE and BBL in another to beat the garbage out of each other

Just play your schedule. Complaining gets you nothing.
I heard 91 machine parents can't get a refund for their pre ordered blinged out shirts (2027 wsyl champs ).........what a shame . It's ok you can still wear it we will all believe that you won it lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard 91 machine parents can't get a refund for their pre ordered blinged out shirts (2027 wsyl champs ).........what a shame . It's ok you can still wear it we will all believe that you won it lol

All the rankings show 91 is the best game in town. Up and down the age groups. Deal with it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This board is great!

Like them or not, Machine is a great team that has kept it tight and honed their craft for many years. Got to respect that.

No affiliation with Machine.

Yeah OK Machine #1 dad

Who makes the pools for NAL? Machine gets the lollipop pool while they throw Hawks, Maddog, LIE and BBL in another to beat the garbage out of each other

Just play your schedule. Complaining gets you nothing.

The irony in that statement is thicker than Niki Minaj’s backside, this whole site exists just for people to complain…holdbacks, coaches, private schools, club fees, parents etc…I agree with the point though. Shut up and play
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard 91 machine parents can't get a refund for their pre ordered blinged out shirts (2027 wsyl champs ).........what a shame . It's ok you can still wear it we will all believe that you won it lol

All the rankings show 91 is the best game in town. Up and down the age groups. Deal with it.

Not after next weekend! Hawks or MadDog will beat them in bracket play, provided they don’t miss bracket play like they did at NLF.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard 91 machine parents can't get a refund for their pre ordered blinged out shirts (2027 wsyl champs ).........what a shame . It's ok you can still wear it we will all believe that you won it lol

All the rankings show 91 is the best game in town. Up and down the age groups. Deal with it.


That's funny because according to the 91 founder/director himself " those rankings mean nothing " lol....just another 91 parents swallowing up the propoganda and paying a hefty fee to think he and his son are the next lol
They thought they had a cupcake pool at NLF until they lost 10-3 to the Kings and missed the bracket altogether. Lol. Turns out they got put in the pool with the eventual champion.
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They thought they had a cupcake pool at NLF until they lost 10-3 to the Kings and missed the bracket altogether. Lol. Turns out they got put in the pool with the eventual champion.


And then they cried " holdbacks, holdbacks "....oh wait didn't they always say they " played up " . How do you say you play up then cry " holdback". Oh , right when they played up they were in my lollipop tournaments that they controlled against horrible 2026 teams . Then they played a few of the top 2026 teams and got spanked . So they no longer play up and still got beat by a 2027 team but then cried about holdbacks . Typical 91 garbage
I heard 91 machine is having their own wsyl award ceremony in commacks ....circling the inside turf with the parents screaming " we are the champions " while they have a gold medal around their neck . The gold medal is the chocolate medal wrapped in gold foil .
CoachC taking a bunch of Haugen kids and coaching in jersey today…
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard 91 machine is having their own wsyl award ceremony in commacks ....circling the inside turf with the parents screaming " we are the champions " while they have a gold medal around their neck . The gold medal is the chocolate medal wrapped in gold foil .

Funny and probably partially true. At least the banter amongst the parents
Thanks for the info
How did 91 get themselves in the B bracket?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did 91 get themselves in the B bracket?

They learned their lesson at NLF. Gotta make bracket play this time or parents will lose it!
I can't believe the WSYL is dead and gone. How have the Machine parents not committed hari-kari? What about Rage? Are they Rage-ing? Igloo WSYL team? How does that work without a WSYL? How long until Dynamic Sports/91 create their own? Will it be a flop like Warrior All-American?

So many questions ...

Talk about a world-ending shock to the system!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I can't believe the WSYL is dead and gone. How have the Machine parents not committed hari-kari? What about Rage? Are they Rage-ing? Igloo WSYL team? How does that work without a WSYL? How long until Dynamic Sports/91 create their own? Will it be a flop like Warrior All-American?

So many questions ...

Talk about a world-ending shock to the system!

Totally funny! Igloo's super B team WSYL. Parents are [ChillLaxin]ed off. Hahaha
World Series of Money Grab...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I can't believe the WSYL is dead and gone. How have the Machine parents not committed hari-kari? What about Rage? Are they Rage-ing? Igloo WSYL team? How does that work without a WSYL? How long until Dynamic Sports/91 create their own? Will it be a flop like Warrior All-American?

So many questions ...

Talk about a world-ending shock to the system!


Anything dynamic sports/91 would create would be a complete disaster and not one respectable club would join any sham they try to put together. They can't even attract good teams to their 50 tournaments they put out each year . They just play and beat their own teams then tell everyone they blew everyone out lol... nobody would go to a sham 91 owned world series
So Rage doesn’t go to the NAL and the Machine can’t even put their name on Team 91? Is that so they can say it’s not the Machine when they lose in the B bracket this weekend? Rage-on dudes
Machine drops the name because they add older players to compete against out of region competition.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Rage doesn’t go to the NAL and the Machine can’t even put their name on Team 91? Is that so they can say it’s not the Machine when they lose in the B bracket this weekend? Rage-on dudes

They don't put Machine on the name if there's a chance they will lose because that would lower their ranking on US club lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So Rage doesn’t go to the NAL and the Machine can’t even put their name on Team 91? Is that so they can say it’s not the Machine when they lose in the B bracket this weekend? Rage-on dudes

They don't put Machine on the name if there's a chance they will lose because that would lower their ranking on US club lacrosse.

So who are the favorites at NAL this weekend?
Machine hands down
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NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?

That reminds me, heard Machine had to go to OT to get a win up in Philly last weekend. Not a full roster?


How about they’re just beatable….got beat over the summer as well and cried of holdbacks when the other team only had one holdback. That’s what happens when they go out of “ my lollipop tournaments “ , they’re beatable . And apparently they don’t “ play up “ anymore aft they took a couple of beat downs from real 2026 A teams .

WE ARE NOT BEATABLE. It was a fluke.

Wow!!
91 Machine nearly lost to Team Ten. I’m shocked. They were ranked 55 last year. Did they improve that much? Or is Machine starting to fade?
91 is in the way out. Couple years they will basically be extinct.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NAL schedule's out - any idea which T91 is showing?

That reminds me, heard Machine had to go to OT to get a win up in Philly last weekend. Not a full roster?


How about they’re just beatable….got beat over the summer as well and cried of holdbacks when the other team only had one holdback. That’s what happens when they go out of “ my lollipop tournaments “ , they’re beatable . And apparently they don’t “ play up “ anymore aft they took a couple of beat downs from real 2026 A teams .

WE ARE NOT BEATABLE. It was a fluke.

Wow!!
91 Machine nearly lost to Team Ten. I’m shocked. They were ranked 55 last year. Did they improve that much? Or is Machine starting to fade?

Who knows? Teams do tend to get better. 91 will come out of their Cupcake pool but they will not beat whoever comes out of Hawks, BBL, Mad Dog pool. If Hawks got better that’s scary and BBL looked real tough at Sweet 16.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very difficult time for 91 machine parents....they're all depressed now . Talked about the wsyl to their friends and family for 5 years and now it's gone . Very sad time for the bling industry. No more orders for blinged out shirts

You are very funny re: 91 and the blinged out shirts.

Despite the World Series being a well known money grab there were some things that we all looked forward to…
-Like a high level tournament with everyone on a level playing field regarding age. This is because there was some accountability. It would be nice if youth lacrosse followed what most of the other sports do and restrict players according to birth year and not grade. There is too much manipulating(cheating) going on. Unfair advantage and unsafe in some instances.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very difficult time for 91 machine parents....they're all depressed now . Talked about the wsyl to their friends and family for 5 years and now it's gone . Very sad time for the bling industry. No more orders for blinged out shirts

You are very funny re: 91 and the blinged out shirts.

Despite the World Series being a well known money grab there were some things that we all looked forward to…
-Like a high level tournament with everyone on a level playing field regarding age. This is because there was some accountability. It would be nice if youth lacrosse followed what most of the other sports do and restrict players according to birth year and not grade. There is too much manipulating(cheating) going on. Unfair advantage and unsafe in some instances.


I can agree with this. Stay on age not grade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very difficult time for 91 machine parents....they're all depressed now . Talked about the wsyl to their friends and family for 5 years and now it's gone . Very sad time for the bling industry. No more orders for blinged out shirts

You are very funny re: 91 and the blinged out shirts.

Despite the World Series being a well known money grab there were some things that we all looked forward to…
-Like a high level tournament with everyone on a level playing field regarding age. This is because there was some accountability. It would be nice if youth lacrosse followed what most of the other sports do and restrict players according to birth year and not grade. There is too much manipulating(cheating) going on. Unfair advantage and unsafe in some instances.


I can agree with this. Stay on age not grade.

It will take one bad/debilitating injury for US lacrosse to change the rules. The size differential is too broad for it to be safe play for a youth sport. holdbacks are fine for academics, but for sports- come on. Johnny should play with kids his own age.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very difficult time for 91 machine parents....they're all depressed now . Talked about the wsyl to their friends and family for 5 years and now it's gone . Very sad time for the bling industry. No more orders for blinged out shirts

You are very funny re: 91 and the blinged out shirts.

Despite the World Series being a well known money grab there were some things that we all looked forward to…
-Like a high level tournament with everyone on a level playing field regarding age. This is because there was some accountability. It would be nice if youth lacrosse followed what most of the other sports do and restrict players according to birth year and not grade. There is too much manipulating(cheating) going on. Unfair advantage and unsafe in some instances.


I can agree with this. Stay on age not grade.

It will take one bad/debilitating injury for US lacrosse to change the rules. The size differential is too broad for it to be safe play for a youth sport. holdbacks are fine for academics, but for sports- come on. Johnny should play with kids his own age.

You could go back to threads from 2018 saying the same thing. Injury. Insurance. Won’t ever change.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very difficult time for 91 machine parents....they're all depressed now . Talked about the wsyl to their friends and family for 5 years and now it's gone . Very sad time for the bling industry. No more orders for blinged out shirts

You are very funny re: 91 and the blinged out shirts.

Despite the World Series being a well known money grab there were some things that we all looked forward to…
-Like a high level tournament with everyone on a level playing field regarding age. This is because there was some accountability. It would be nice if youth lacrosse followed what most of the other sports do and restrict players according to birth year and not grade. There is too much manipulating(cheating) going on. Unfair advantage and unsafe in some instances.


I can agree with this. Stay on age not grade.

It will take one bad/debilitating injury for US lacrosse to change the rules. The size differential is too broad for it to be safe play for a youth sport. holdbacks are fine for academics, but for sports- come on. Johnny should play with kids his own age.

You could go back to threads from 2018 saying the same thing. Injury. Insurance. Won’t ever change.

I’m sorry but do any of your kids play any other sports? “Bad/debilitating injury” are you frickin kidding me? Do you know how big of a WUSSY you sound like?! Every football league my kids have ever played in has a 2 year age range, 9&10, 11&12. I don’t see kids getting carted off every other play because a 12yr old hit an 11yr old. You’re probably the same guys that cry about a legit body check because one kid is 130 and yours is 100, and also screams when little Johnny gets tapped on the helmet in any way. My kid started playing lax when he was 6 in rec leagues and they have always been 2yr age windows and guess what? I’ve never seen a debilitating injury, never heard of one. Not trying to sound like a tough guy but Jeezus, branch out a little man, there are much tougher sports out there and one year really isn’t that big of a deal unless of course we’re talking about a Long Island year….kids apparently become actual men in one year on the island
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very difficult time for 91 machine parents....they're all depressed now . Talked about the wsyl to their friends and family for 5 years and now it's gone . Very sad time for the bling industry. No more orders for blinged out shirts

You are very funny re: 91 and the blinged out shirts.

Despite the World Series being a well known money grab there were some things that we all looked forward to…
-Like a high level tournament with everyone on a level playing field regarding age. This is because there was some accountability. It would be nice if youth lacrosse followed what most of the other sports do and restrict players according to birth year and not grade. There is too much manipulating(cheating) going on. Unfair advantage and unsafe in some instances.


I can agree with this. Stay on age not grade.

It will take one bad/debilitating injury for US lacrosse to change the rules. The size differential is too broad for it to be safe play for a youth sport. holdbacks are fine for academics, but for sports- come on. Johnny should play with kids his own age.

You could go back to threads from 2018 saying the same thing. Injury. Insurance. Won’t ever change.

I’m sorry but do any of your kids play any other sports? “Bad/debilitating injury” are you frickin kidding me? Do you know how big of a WUSSY you sound like?! Every football league my kids have ever played in has a 2 year age range, 9&10, 11&12. I don’t see kids getting carted off every other play because a 12yr old hit an 11yr old. You’re probably the same guys that cry about a legit body check because one kid is 130 and yours is 100, and also screams when little Johnny gets tapped on the helmet in any way. My kid started playing lax when he was 6 in rec leagues and they have always been 2yr age windows and guess what? I’ve never seen a debilitating injury, never heard of one. Not trying to sound like a tough guy but Jeezus, branch out a little man, there are much tougher sports out there and one year really isn’t that big of a deal unless of course we’re talking about a Long Island year….kids apparently become actual men in one year on the island


Has to be a 91 parent crying about being on age etc....they're known as the cry babies of long island lacrosse ..always complaining about holdbacks etc....stink it up and play the game . What's the best is they claim some of their teams " play up " lol then they complain of holdbacks when they lose . 91 cry babies
Machine was awesome yesterday - congrats. You can detest the trashy parents all you want, they are gross - but their boys play the game the right way. Ball is always moving and they’re constantly making high effort plays.

Anyone who’s says different is just a hater, who’s insecure and can’t come to grips with the facts.
What are the top 5 times on Long Island ?

1. Machine
2.
3.
4.
5.
I agree! Machine is back and rolling on all pistons! New Fogo Middie was unstoppable! Denver will be trouble this summer.
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I agree! Machine is back and rolling on all pistons! New Fogo Middie was unstoppable! Denver will be trouble this summer.


Denver lol.....I guess this fool hasn't heard the wsyl is cancelled for good ? Hahaha, return the wsyl champions shirt
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I agree! Machine is back and rolling on all pistons! New Fogo Middie was unstoppable! Denver will be trouble this summer.


Denver lol.....I guess this fool hasn't heard the wsyl is cancelled for good ? Hahaha, return the wsyl champions shirt


Maybe they should still go to Denver and play the Colorado kings lol
Just another hater. Enough said!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo
How many times does each team practice in the winter (December-February?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo


Hahaha, this list is comical . Has to be a massapequa mom posting this list. Rage? Mohawks ? Hahahah, that's funny
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo


Once again ....don't listen to the massapequa/91 mom's on here ....go to the website USCL and look at the rankings . Those are pretty close to being tje most accurate you'll see anywhere. Rage is a B team , and the mohawks play once a year and play town teams . So go to the website and hey the real rankings . Don't listen to the fools from massapequa
This is a joke but I missed S2S earlier. They’re real just not elite.

Machine 1, Express 2, S2S 3…
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo


Once again ....don't listen to the massapequa/91 mom's on here ....go to the website USCL and look at the rankings . Those are pretty close to being tje most accurate you'll see anywhere. Rage is a B team , and the mohawks play once a year and play town teams . So go to the website and hey the real rankings . Don't listen to the fools from massapequa

Bling this…
S2S just beat Express and Mohawks beat S2S last fall and spring.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo


Once again ....don't listen to the massapequa/91 mom's on here ....go to the website USCL and look at the rankings . Those are pretty close to being tje most accurate you'll see anywhere. Rage is a B team , and the mohawks play once a year and play town teams . So go to the website and hey the real rankings . Don't listen to the fools from massapequa

Bling this…
S2S just beat Express and Mohawks beat S2S last fall and spring.


Hahaha, the mohawks .... have to give it to the massapequa mom's they're very entertaining. Working overtime today . Shouldn't you be at your Nassau community college alumni lunch ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo


Once again ....don't listen to the massapequa/91 mom's on here ....go to the website USCL and look at the rankings . Those are pretty close to being tje most accurate you'll see anywhere. Rage is a B team , and the mohawks play once a year and play town teams . So go to the website and hey the real rankings . Don't listen to the fools from massapequa

Bling this…
S2S just beat Express and Mohawks beat S2S last fall and spring.


Hahaha, the mohawks .... have to give it to the massapequa mom's they're very entertaining. Working overtime today . Shouldn't you be at your Nassau community college alumni lunch ?

Adelphi lunch.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo
What is going on with Igloo? Didn't they try to put together an additional all star squad to play at WSYL only? Now that the event folded did those outsiders leave or do they have a bloated roster of 40 plus like their older teams? Clearly that ship is sinking
Honestly would put Mohawks at #2. The team is basically split in half with machine and rage kids with a few other kids. In fact they beat every single team on this list over the last few years and never lost a game-both town games or in tourneys playing club teams. Stop it. If you know anything about this grade you know how good this team is.
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Honestly would put Mohawks at #2. The team is basically split in half with machine and rage kids with a few other kids. In fact they beat every single team on this list over the last few years and never lost a game-both town games or in tourneys playing club teams. Stop it. If you know anything about this grade you know how good this team is.

That’s funny
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo
What is going on with Igloo? Didn't they try to put together an additional all star squad to play at WSYL only? Now that the event folded did those outsiders leave or do they have a bloated roster of 40 plus like their older teams? Clearly that ship is sinking

AA is a joke now.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo
What is going on with Igloo? Didn't they try to put together an additional all star squad to play at WSYL only? Now that the event folded did those outsiders leave or do they have a bloated roster of 40 plus like their older teams? Clearly that ship is sinking

AA is a joke now.


Rage ? Hahahahah that's great 91 mom...go look at this weekend's tournaments and see who rage is playing . As has been mentioned before on this thread if you want a real rankings go to us club lax website . Don't listen to massapequa mom's . According to us club lax it's machine then express Haugen, s2s and a very very distant rage . They are a B team . But massapequa mom's are on here propping them up with the massapequa mohawks hahaha. Get a life
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo
What is going on with Igloo? Didn't they try to put together an additional all star squad to play at WSYL only? Now that the event folded did those outsiders leave or do they have a bloated roster of 40 plus like their older teams? Clearly that ship is sinking

AA is a joke now.


Rage ? Hahahahah that's great 91 mom...go look at this weekend's tournaments and see who rage is playing . As has been mentioned before on this thread if you want a real rankings go to us club lax website . Don't listen to massapequa mom's . According to us club lax it's machine then express Haugen, s2s and a very very distant rage . They are a B team . But massapequa mom's are on here propping them up with the massapequa mohawks hahaha. Get a life

OMG Rage!
What happened to them?
They played in their first tourney of the fall and struggled. They lost to Leading Edge 4-1…..
Who?!??
Last year they were ranked like 175.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo
What is going on with Igloo? Didn't they try to put together an additional all star squad to play at WSYL only? Now that the event folded did those outsiders leave or do they have a bloated roster of 40 plus like their older teams? Clearly that ship is sinking

AA is a joke now.


Rage ? Hahahahah that's great 91 mom...go look at this weekend's tournaments and see who rage is playing . As has been mentioned before on this thread if you want a real rankings go to us club lax website . Don't listen to massapequa mom's . According to us club lax it's machine then express Haugen, s2s and a very very distant rage . They are a B team . But massapequa mom's are on here propping them up with the massapequa mohawks hahaha. Get a life

OMG Rage!
What happened to them?
They played in their first tourney of the fall and struggled. They lost to Leading Edge 4-1…..
Who?!??
Last year they were ranked like 175.


Exactly , just another "my lollipop tournament", they beat the bad teams by 10 the face one decent team and lose . Think it's time to face the facts , not a good team. Not sure when 91 parents will realize what a waste of time it is to watch this nonsense every year
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine 1, Express 2 and that’s all that matters. Rest are really B teams who get beat by any decent comp.

1. 91 Machine
2. 91 Rage
3. Massapequa Mohawks
4. S2S
5. Express Haugan
6. Legacy
7. Igloo
What is going on with Igloo? Didn't they try to put together an additional all star squad to play at WSYL only? Now that the event folded did those outsiders leave or do they have a bloated roster of 40 plus like their older teams? Clearly that ship is sinking

AA is a joke now.


Rage ? Hahahahah that's great 91 mom...go look at this weekend's tournaments and see who rage is playing . As has been mentioned before on this thread if you want a real rankings go to us club lax website . Don't listen to massapequa mom's . According to us club lax it's machine then express Haugen, s2s and a very very distant rage . They are a B team . But massapequa mom's are on here propping them up with the massapequa mohawks hahaha. Get a life

OMG Rage!
What happened to them?
They played in their first tourney of the fall and struggled. They lost to Leading Edge 4-1…..
Who?!??
Last year they were ranked like 175.


Hahaha, rage is awful ....played horrible teams and blew them out then played one that was a little less horrible and lost . 91 owned tournaments are a joke .
Mean machine mean machine mean machine #1. Rage against the machine no where near #2
I think this conversation and fake rankings by the massapequa mom can now be put to rest

On long island it's machine at the top by a wide margin as of right now , with express Haugen and s2s basically even and then rage and igloo way way back from the pack....not even in the same conversation as the top 3
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think this conversation and fake rankings by the massapequa mom can now be put to rest

On long island it's machine at the top by a wide margin as of right now , with express Haugen and s2s basically even and then rage and igloo way way back from the pack....not even in the same conversation as the top 3

Igloos beat the team rage lost to
Rebels and Legacy aren’t as good as Machine, Express Or S2S but as better than igloo and Rage.
Based on results last summer/this fall

1. Machine
2/3. Haugen / S2S
4/5. Legacy/Rebels
6/7. Rage/Igloo
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think this conversation and fake rankings by the massapequa mom can now be put to rest

On long island it's machine at the top by a wide margin as of right now , with express Haugen and s2s basically even and then rage and igloo way way back from the pack....not even in the same conversation as the top 3

Igloos beat the team rage lost to
Rebels and Legacy aren’t as good as Machine, Express Or S2S but as better than igloo and Rage.



😭😭😂😂😂
Rebels please stop - they haven’t beaten anyone
when the Rebels beat one of the teams mentioned above, or play in a real AA tournament then you can start adding them to the bunch. until then, reBels are a B team
Wheres Machine FO from NJ ?
1. Machine
2. Mohawks
3/4. Haugen / S2S
5/6. Legacy/Rebels
7/8. Rage/Igloo
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1. Machine
2. Mohawks
3/4. Haugen / S2S
5/6. Legacy/Rebels
7/8. Rage/Igloo


I fixed it for you:
1. Machine (Mohawks)
2/3. Haugen / S2S
4/5. Legacy/Rebels
6. Rage/Igloo
N
O

WSYL

Hahahahhahahah!
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N
O

WSYL

Hahahahhahahah!

HAHAHHA I LOVE IT TOO !!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1. Machine
2. Mohawks
3/4. Haugen / S2S
5/6. Legacy/Rebels
7/8. Rage/Igloo


Legacy and Rebels definitely not 5/6 . Rage better than both .
If igloo wasn’t so expensive my son would be on that team .
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
1. Machine
2. Mohawks
3/4. Haugen / S2S
5/6. Legacy/Rebels
7/8. Rage/Igloo


Legacy and Rebels definitely not 5/6 . Rage better than both .
If igloo wasn’t so expensive my son would be on that team .

Your son couldn't make Igloo's WSYL B team.
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1. Machine
2. Mohawks
3/4. Haugen / S2S
5/6. Legacy/Rebels
7/8. Rage/Igloo


Legacy and Rebels definitely not 5/6 . Rage better than both .
If igloo wasn’t so expensive my son would be on that team .

How much is igloo tuition compared to 91?
Rage and Machine cost the same so it has to be around the same as igloo? No?
4K
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1. Machine
2. Mohawks
3/4. Haugen / S2S
5/6. Legacy/Rebels
7/8. Rage/Igloo


Legacy and Rebels definitely not 5/6 . Rage better than both .
If igloo wasn’t so expensive my son would be on that team .

How much is igloo tuition compared to 91?
Rage and Machine cost the same so it has to be around the same as igloo? No?


Wow the massapequa mom can't seem to lose mohawks off the list ...amazing . We get it your son is on rage , not machine and you're upset about that so you want to put mohawks up there because he play on the mohawks . The team plays once a year so relax with the mohawks . Sad
Very interesting news that the WS is back on. Must be taken over by the 91 Dynamic organization to make sure the Machine doesn’t lose out!
Just accept the fact that 91 is the best!
91 thought they were the best until they met the Kings.
Anyone know the deal with this rebooted World Series? North qualifier in Tinton Falls, NJ 3/12 and 3/13/22. Who is running it?
The Kings are clowns!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know the deal with this rebooted World Series? North qualifier in Tinton Falls, NJ 3/12 and 3/13/22. Who is running it?

Where did you see this?
There is an email circulating that some coaches received. I only have a screen shot, so I can’t copy and paste the text. No one can tell who is behind it, although the email says the new World Series is sponsored by New Balance. Email says the World Series tournament, like the old WSYL, is at the Maryland Soccer Complex from 6/30-7/3/22.
Looks like new Instagram page and website for the “World Series of Lacrosse.” Notice no “Youth” in the name - I’m guessing it’s a totally new group that didn’t buy the assets and couldn’t use the trademarked “WSYL” name.

https://instagram.com/world_series_of_youth_lacrosse?utm_medium=copy_link


http://worldseriesoflacrosse.com/
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like new Instagram page and website for the “World Series of Lacrosse.” Notice no “Youth” in the name - I’m guessing it’s a totally new group that didn’t buy the assets and couldn’t use the trademarked “WSYL” name.

https://instagram.com/world_series_of_youth_lacrosse?utm_medium=copy_link


http://worldseriesoflacrosse.com/

Interesting. Website had no content yet. Thanks
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.
Hope the World Series tournament somehow survives. Gives kids and teams a big goal to work toward and a great experience.

Also like the age aspect of the tournament to try and keep a level playing field. Opportunity still remains for improving and clarifying super team prevention policy.

One suggestion to improve roster policy could be that players must have played in x tournaments with the team within x months prior to roster submission, by say December 1st. Not sure how you work around injuries and players moving after December 1st., but policy around this needs to be clear too.

Most importantly, to keep the integrity of the tournament, enforcement of age, roster, and super team prevention policies in place should be the highest priority.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hope the World Series tournament somehow survives. Gives kids and teams a big goal to work toward and a great experience.

Also like the age aspect of the tournament to try and keep a level playing field. Opportunity still remains for improving and clarifying super team prevention policy.

One suggestion to improve roster policy could be that players must have played in x tournaments with the team within x months prior to roster submission, by say December 1st. Not sure how you work around injuries and players moving after December 1st., but policy around this needs to be clear too.

Most importantly, to keep the integrity of the tournament, enforcement of age, roster, and super team prevention policies in place should be the highest priority.

It's a huge waste of money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hope the World Series tournament somehow survives. Gives kids and teams a big goal to work toward and a great experience.

Also like the age aspect of the tournament to try and keep a level playing field. Opportunity still remains for improving and clarifying super team prevention policy.

One suggestion to improve roster policy could be that players must have played in x tournaments with the team within x months prior to roster submission, by say December 1st. Not sure how you work around injuries and players moving after December 1st., but policy around this needs to be clear too.

Most importantly, to keep the integrity of the tournament, enforcement of age, roster, and super team prevention policies in place should be the highest priority.

It's a huge waste of money.

Sour grapes much? It’s the only age based tournament this sport has and though there are some flaws, it was an amazing experience for my son.
I wonder if this World Series will be on age or grade.
It’s really absurd how the World Series is the only age-based lax tournament. This system based on school grade is so illogical and puts kids whose parents haven’t held them back and/or aren’t in a state with an early age cutoff at a huge disadvantage. We’ve all seen the huge size and speed disparities with teams at the middle school age.

Why can’t all tournaments be like the World Series? Why does lax do school year instead of age?
I thought the policy was that you have to play at least three tourneys with the WS roster….unless I understood wrong.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wonder if this World Series will be on age or grade.


The announcement said U13
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hope the World Series tournament somehow survives. Gives kids and teams a big goal to work toward and a great experience.

Also like the age aspect of the tournament to try and keep a level playing field. Opportunity still remains for improving and clarifying super team prevention policy.

One suggestion to improve roster policy could be that players must have played in x tournaments with the team within x months prior to roster submission, by say December 1st. Not sure how you work around injuries and players moving after December 1st., but policy around this needs to be clear too.

Most importantly, to keep the integrity of the tournament, enforcement of age, roster, and super team prevention policies in place should be the highest priority.

It's a huge waste of money.

Sour grapes much? It’s the only age based tournament this sport has and though there are some flaws, it was an amazing experience for my son.

Good for you preppy boy. Some people don't have the money.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought the policy was that you have to play at least three tourneys with the WS roster….unless I understood wrong.

“At a minimum, players must compete with their team/program for at least two events (outside of a WSYL event), which can consist of tournaments and/or seasonal leagues. These events do not need to precede the qualifier but must precede the Championship event.”

So essentially a player’s first time ever playing with a team could have been at the qualifiers.

In my opinion, rosters should be finalized immediately after the fall tournament season, when coaches had time to evaluate and make any necessary player and team chemistry adjustments.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hope the World Series tournament somehow survives. Gives kids and teams a big goal to work toward and a great experience.

Also like the age aspect of the tournament to try and keep a level playing field. Opportunity still remains for improving and clarifying super team prevention policy.

One suggestion to improve roster policy could be that players must have played in x tournaments with the team within x months prior to roster submission, by say December 1st. Not sure how you work around injuries and players moving after December 1st., but policy around this needs to be clear too.

Most importantly, to keep the integrity of the tournament, enforcement of age, roster, and super team prevention policies in place should be the highest priority.

It's a huge waste of money.

Sour grapes much? It’s the only age based tournament this sport has and though there are some flaws, it was an amazing experience for my son.

Good for you preppy boy. Some people don't have the money.

He said “huge waste of money.” That implies he had the money to waste. I never said it was cheap. Just a great experience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hope the World Series tournament somehow survives. Gives kids and teams a big goal to work toward and a great experience.

Also like the age aspect of the tournament to try and keep a level playing field. Opportunity still remains for improving and clarifying super team prevention policy.

One suggestion to improve roster policy could be that players must have played in x tournaments with the team within x months prior to roster submission, by say December 1st. Not sure how you work around injuries and players moving after December 1st., but policy around this needs to be clear too.

Most importantly, to keep the integrity of the tournament, enforcement of age, roster, and super team prevention policies in place should be the highest priority.

It's a huge waste of money.

Sour grapes much? It’s the only age based tournament this sport has and though there are some flaws, it was an amazing experience for my son.

Good for you preppy boy. Some people don't have the money.


You first say waste of money and then don’t have the money. Both of which are debatable.

Can you add more context about your personal and financial situation? Without seeing your financial situation, it’s quite possible you prioritize your eating and drinking over your kids experiences. (Tongue in cheek)

To each their own as to how they earn and spend.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point


Let's all sing some karaoke "heard it from a friend who , heard it from a friend who , heard you say the world series is back on " lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point

Least you can do is level with us. What are our chances, like one out of a hundred?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point

If you go back a page on this forum, there is a new Instagram page and a new website which are posted. The tournament is now being run by True Lacrosse, which also runs the Pinnacle tournaments. I just got an email last night from my 2027 son's club (not a Long Island-based club) confirming it. My understanding is that it is something of a "soft" reopening and that the IG page and website don't have full info yet, but it's confirmed that the North qualifier is at Cappelli Sports Complex in NJ on 3/12-3/13/22 and that the Mid-Atlantic qualifier is at the Delaware Turf Complex the same days.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point


If this is a joke it's being done by someone form Illinois. The Whois info is mostly hidden except that it was registered from Illinois
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point


If this is a joke it's being done by someone form Illinois. The Whois info is mostly hidden except that it was registered from Illinois

Good sleuthwork. I believe True Lacrosse is based in Illinois.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point

If you go back a page on this forum, there is a new Instagram page and a new website which are posted. The tournament is now being run by True Lacrosse, which also runs the Pinnacle tournaments. I just got an email last night from my 2027 son's club (not a Long Island-based club) confirming it. My understanding is that it is something of a "soft" reopening and that the IG page and website don't have full info yet, but it's confirmed that the North qualifier is at Cappelli Sports Complex in NJ on 3/12-3/13/22 and that the Mid-Atlantic qualifier is at the Delaware Turf Complex the same days.


All together now " I heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who ,says that people are messing around ....heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who said the works series is back on ".

Newsflash....nobody cares about the wsyl ...most people were happy to see it go away as it was a joke . Just another tournament at a different location . It's not national or world level because nobody outside of the northeast or maybe Colorado care about lacrosse, in fact the majority of the people in this country don't w en know what it is . So stop wishing for it to come back so that you can say your son " went to the world series " I know it might sound cool to say to your friends and family but it's a joke
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point

If you go back a page on this forum, there is a new Instagram page and a new website which are posted. The tournament is now being run by True Lacrosse, which also runs the Pinnacle tournaments. I just got an email last night from my 2027 son's club (not a Long Island-based club) confirming it. My understanding is that it is something of a "soft" reopening and that the IG page and website don't have full info yet, but it's confirmed that the North qualifier is at Cappelli Sports Complex in NJ on 3/12-3/13/22 and that the Mid-Atlantic qualifier is at the Delaware Turf Complex the same days.


Two things , if you're not from long island then from where do you hail most informative one ? Why so secretive? Are the lacrosse gods going to come down and kidnap you ? Also, if tru lacrosse is a lacrosse club then it shouldn't be running a world series tournament as that's a conflict of interest and its supposed to be independent of any clubs . Perhaps you should explain to your " source/coach" how that doesn't make any sense
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point

If you go back a page on this forum, there is a new Instagram page and a new website which are posted. The tournament is now being run by True Lacrosse, which also runs the Pinnacle tournaments. I just got an email last night from my 2027 son's club (not a Long Island-based club) confirming it. My understanding is that it is something of a "soft" reopening and that the IG page and website don't have full info yet, but it's confirmed that the North qualifier is at Cappelli Sports Complex in NJ on 3/12-3/13/22 and that the Mid-Atlantic qualifier is at the Delaware Turf Complex the same days.


All together now " I heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who ,says that people are messing around ....heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who said the works series is back on ".

Newsflash....nobody cares about the wsyl ...most people were happy to see it go away as it was a joke . Just another tournament at a different location . It's not national or world level because nobody outside of the northeast or maybe Colorado care about lacrosse, in fact the majority of the people in this country don't w en know what it is . So stop wishing for it to come back so that you can say your son " went to the world series " I know it might sound cool to say to your friends and family but it's a joke

True post. I think you made the 91 orange daddy's cry with your accurate post.
91 orange daddy's are upset
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point

If you go back a page on this forum, there is a new Instagram page and a new website which are posted. The tournament is now being run by True Lacrosse, which also runs the Pinnacle tournaments. I just got an email last night from my 2027 son's club (not a Long Island-based club) confirming it. My understanding is that it is something of a "soft" reopening and that the IG page and website don't have full info yet, but it's confirmed that the North qualifier is at Cappelli Sports Complex in NJ on 3/12-3/13/22 and that the Mid-Atlantic qualifier is at the Delaware Turf Complex the same days.


All together now " I heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who ,says that people are messing around ....heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who said the works series is back on ".

Newsflash....nobody cares about the wsyl ...most people were happy to see it go away as it was a joke . Just another tournament at a different location . It's not national or world level because nobody outside of the northeast or maybe Colorado care about lacrosse, in fact the majority of the people in this country don't w en know what it is . So stop wishing for it to come back so that you can say your son " went to the world series " I know it might sound cool to say to your friends and family but it's a joke

I don’t understand the hostility. This is a 2027 lacrosse forum and I’m posting info relating to the 2027 year. I thought readers of this forum might be interested; you aren’t, but I’m guessing others are. Have a nice day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point

If you go back a page on this forum, there is a new Instagram page and a new website which are posted. The tournament is now being run by True Lacrosse, which also runs the Pinnacle tournaments. I just got an email last night from my 2027 son's club (not a Long Island-based club) confirming it. My understanding is that it is something of a "soft" reopening and that the IG page and website don't have full info yet, but it's confirmed that the North qualifier is at Cappelli Sports Complex in NJ on 3/12-3/13/22 and that the Mid-Atlantic qualifier is at the Delaware Turf Complex the same days.


All together now " I heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who ,says that people are messing around ....heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who said the works series is back on ".

Newsflash....nobody cares about the wsyl ...most people were happy to see it go away as it was a joke . Just another tournament at a different location . It's not national or world level because nobody outside of the northeast or maybe Colorado care about lacrosse, in fact the majority of the people in this country don't w en know what it is . So stop wishing for it to come back so that you can say your son " went to the world series " I know it might sound cool to say to your friends and family but it's a joke

I don’t understand the hostility. This is a 2027 lacrosse forum and I’m posting info relating to the 2027 year. I thought readers of this forum might be interested; you aren’t, but I’m guessing others are. Have a nice day.

Ignore that hammerhead. The WSYL was a great experience for my kid and his teammates. Great venue (MD) with immaculate fields, mostly great completion, and above all, ON AGE players only.
I hope they have it again it will be another 91 victory!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point

If you go back a page on this forum, there is a new Instagram page and a new website which are posted. The tournament is now being run by True Lacrosse, which also runs the Pinnacle tournaments. I just got an email last night from my 2027 son's club (not a Long Island-based club) confirming it. My understanding is that it is something of a "soft" reopening and that the IG page and website don't have full info yet, but it's confirmed that the North qualifier is at Cappelli Sports Complex in NJ on 3/12-3/13/22 and that the Mid-Atlantic qualifier is at the Delaware Turf Complex the same days.


All together now " I heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who ,says that people are messing around ....heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who said the works series is back on ".

Newsflash....nobody cares about the wsyl ...most people were happy to see it go away as it was a joke . Just another tournament at a different location . It's not national or world level because nobody outside of the northeast or maybe Colorado care about lacrosse, in fact the majority of the people in this country don't w en know what it is . So stop wishing for it to come back so that you can say your son " went to the world series " I know it might sound cool to say to your friends and family but it's a joke

I don’t understand the hostility. This is a 2027 lacrosse forum and I’m posting info relating to the 2027 year. I thought readers of this forum might be interested; you aren’t, but I’m guessing others are. Have a nice day.

Ignore that hammerhead. The WSYL was a great experience for my kid and his teammates. Great venue (MD) with immaculate fields, mostly great completion, and above all, ON AGE players only.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point

If you go back a page on this forum, there is a new Instagram page and a new website which are posted. The tournament is now being run by True Lacrosse, which also runs the Pinnacle tournaments. I just got an email last night from my 2027 son's club (not a Long Island-based club) confirming it. My understanding is that it is something of a "soft" reopening and that the IG page and website don't have full info yet, but it's confirmed that the North qualifier is at Cappelli Sports Complex in NJ on 3/12-3/13/22 and that the Mid-Atlantic qualifier is at the Delaware Turf Complex the same days.


All together now " I heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who ,says that people are messing around ....heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who said the works series is back on ".

Newsflash....nobody cares about the wsyl ...most people were happy to see it go away as it was a joke . Just another tournament at a different location . It's not national or world level because nobody outside of the northeast or maybe Colorado care about lacrosse, in fact the majority of the people in this country don't w en know what it is . So stop wishing for it to come back so that you can say your son " went to the world series " I know it might sound cool to say to your friends and family but it's a joke

I don’t understand the hostility. This is a 2027 lacrosse forum and I’m posting info relating to the 2027 year. I thought readers of this forum might be interested; you aren’t, but I’m guessing others are. Have a nice day.

Ignore that hammerhead. The WSYL was a great experience for my kid and his teammates. Great venue (MD) with immaculate fields, mostly great completion, and above all, ON AGE players only.

Thanks for the info
Any updates would be appreciated
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope they have it again it will be another 91 victory!


Go beat the kings first lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point

If you go back a page on this forum, there is a new Instagram page and a new website which are posted. The tournament is now being run by True Lacrosse, which also runs the Pinnacle tournaments. I just got an email last night from my 2027 son's club (not a Long Island-based club) confirming it. My understanding is that it is something of a "soft" reopening and that the IG page and website don't have full info yet, but it's confirmed that the North qualifier is at Cappelli Sports Complex in NJ on 3/12-3/13/22 and that the Mid-Atlantic qualifier is at the Delaware Turf Complex the same days.


All together now " I heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who ,says that people are messing around ....heard it from a coach who heard it from a coach who said the works series is back on ".

Newsflash....nobody cares about the wsyl ...most people were happy to see it go away as it was a joke . Just another tournament at a different location . It's not national or world level because nobody outside of the northeast or maybe Colorado care about lacrosse, in fact the majority of the people in this country don't w en know what it is . So stop wishing for it to come back so that you can say your son " went to the world series " I know it might sound cool to say to your friends and family but it's a joke

My boys did not have a chance to play in it but everyone I know that had kids that played said it was really cool - overall a great experience. Watching the 1st WSYL on TV was eye opening for me. I had no idea 7th grade boys could be so skilled at lacrosse. I hope the new organizers continue with the age based structure. If it is on TV I will definitely watch it!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
An Instagram commenter says the new World Series is being run by True Lacrosse. No idea if true or not.


Sounds like a lot of hearsay for those if you who are hoping that the world series is back . There ha seen absolutely no mention of this by any club or coach . Sounds like fake news . " An email circulating " doesn't exactly mean that something is happening . So don't go cancel your travel plans because someone said that someone said that someone said and I heard from this one who heard from that one . Seriously, find a hobby . It's just wishful thinking at this point

It’s time has past like so many great events.
S2S beats 91 national… ok boys here we go
I’m sure S2Shas the Ref’s on the payroll,
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S beats 91 national… ok boys here we go

Not true!!! We're the best!
All know in-season is from March through early July, when it counts. Until then, keep grinding and getting better. Happy New Year.
That S2S score vs 91 has to be a typo.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That S2S score vs 91 has to be a typo.....

Not a typo- shore 2 shore beat 91 national which is supposedly their best players from across the country.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That S2S score vs 91 has to be a typo.....

Nope 8-3 win
91 also lost to West Coast Starz 10-4

S2S also lost 2x since their win

Shocking to me. I thought 91 was unbeatable?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That S2S score vs 91 has to be a typo.....

Not a typo- shore 2 shore beat 91 national which is supposedly their best players from across the country.

Wow 91 National has lost 2 times.
S2S beat 91 National pretty good but now has lost twice.
They are both out of the money and in the losers bracket.
Crazy- 3 2024 Long Island teams down at nationals and all are 2-2 at this point .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That S2S score vs 91 has to be a typo.....

Nope 8-3 win
91 also lost to West Coast Starz 10-4

S2S also lost 2x since their win

Shocking to me. I thought 91 was unbeatable?

91 falling in the ranks. Not so high on the totem pole anymore
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That S2S score vs 91 has to be a typo.....

Not a typo- shore 2 shore beat 91 national which is supposedly their best players from across the country.

Key word “supposedly”
Not a typo only three Machine players and one Rage player on the 91 National team out of 22 on the roster. Again not a typo, if Machine came to this tourney as their team they would have won the 2027 bracket hands down. Relax SRS parent!!!
2027 91 National team only had 3 Machine players and 1 Rage player out of 22 man roster. Relax S2S parent your team is no where closer to beating 91 Machine. As for the Kings, we will see if they even can field a on age team in the WSL!
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2027 91 National team only had 3 Machine players and 1 Rage player out of 22 man roster. Relax S2S parent your team is no where closer to beating 91 Machine. As for the Kings, we will see if they even can field a on age team in the WSL!


3 S2S players are world series ineligible making that spread even further between them and machine. Meanwhile the entire marching roster is eligible with a few being eligible for the 2028 year.
Every player will be eligible. Sounds like this tournament will be based on grade, not age. Basically, another tournament.
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Every player will be eligible. Sounds like this tournament will be based on grade, not age. Basically, another tournament.

Wrong. WSL will have same 9/1 cutoff as before with WSYL.
S2S not doing WSYL
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S2S not doing WSYL

Because they won’t qualify.
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2027 91 National team only had 3 Machine players and 1 Rage player out of 22 man roster. Relax S2S parent your team is no where closer to beating 91 Machine. As for the Kings, we will see if they even can field a on age team in the WSL!

Yawn. How many times do you need to be told. Kings has a WSYL team and all their kids are on it. Same kids who won club nationals today. What’s your next excuse?
Kings have dominant WSYL squad ready. Mad Dog National team that just won Club Lacrosse Nationals led by several of them.
91 parents seem a little hurted.
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91 parents seem a little hurted.

Legacy rocks baby!!!
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Kings have dominant WSYL squad ready. Mad Dog National team that just won Club Lacrosse Nationals led by several of them.

Where is Kings from? Do kids play on this team solely or are they on multiple travel teams? Sincerely curious if this is a “regional” super team?
91 National is a money grab joke. Machine would beat them handily.
It’s great to be a Outlaw!
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Kings have dominant WSYL squad ready. Mad Dog National team that just won Club Lacrosse Nationals led by several of them.

Where is Kings from? Do kids play on this team solely or are they on multiple travel teams? Sincerely curious if this is a “regional” super team?


They are out of south Denver. Multiple age groups and started 5-6 yrs ago. A Notre Dame guy started the club. Very strong at ‘26-31
Kings are a local south Denver team. Some of their studs play for regional/national teams like Mad Dog West, Mad Dog National, Nationals, WCS etc. in tournaments with regional/national teams (like Club Nationals). Come summer (NAL and NLF) it will be just Denver kids under the Kings banner
What is 91 national and where did this team come from ? Only 3 machine ? Dont get it . Who coached
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What is 91 national and where did this team come from ? Only 3 machine ? Dont get it . Who coached

They have a webpage. Coaches for all teams are clearly displayed for all to see.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is 91 national and where did this team come from ? Only 3 machine ? Dont get it . Who coached

They have a webpage. Coaches for all teams are clearly displayed for all to see.

When was tryouts and its a 91 team why only a couple Machine ? Couches kids i see .
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What is 91 national and where did this team come from ? Only 3 machine ? Dont get it . Who coached

They have a webpage. Coaches for all teams are clearly displayed for all to see.

Whats the price tag money grab on that team ?
Coaches kids I see. Love that typical response from an ignorant parent. Have you seen those coaches’ kids play? And if you did you would know that they deserved their spots in the roster if their National team.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is 91 national and where did this team come from ? Only 3 machine ? Dont get it . Who coached

They have a webpage. Coaches for all teams are clearly displayed for all to see.

When was tryouts and its a 91 team why only a couple Machine ? Couches kids i see .

Seems more likely the team was comprised of people willing and able to travel to Florida for the tournament. Right?
[quote=Anonymous]Coaches kids I see. Love that typical response from an ignorant parent. Have you seen those coaches’ kids play? And if you did you would know that they deserved their spots in the roster if their National team.

No never seen them play tell me about it PLEASE !!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2027 91 National team only had 3 Machine players and 1 Rage player out of 22 man roster. Relax S2S parent your team is no where closer to beating 91 Machine. As for the Kings, we will see if they even can field a on age team in the WSL!

There is a WSL?
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[quote=Anonymous]Coaches kids I see. Love that typical response from an ignorant parent. Have you seen those coaches’ kids play? And if you did you would know that they deserved their spots in the roster if their National team.

No never seen them play tell me about it PLEASE !!!


I have seen them play and daddy's boy...lefty attack is very average
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Coaches kids I see. Love that typical response from an ignorant parent. Have you seen those coaches’ kids play? And if you did you would know that they deserved their spots in the roster if their National team.


It's not a national team that had tryouts etc.....anybody can sign up and go . Don't be fooled by the name . Just another tournament that they tried to prop up to make sound like something that it's not . Any team and any player can go .
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
2027 91 National team only had 3 Machine players and 1 Rage player out of 22 man roster. Relax S2S parent your team is no where closer to beating 91 Machine. As for the Kings, we will see if they even can field a on age team in the WSL!

There is a WSL?

Is that more sour grapes I hear from a 91 parent because they got beat by the kings ? It never ends . The kinda will have a team for the wsyl. Stop being a ore lost beci you got beat in the summer
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2027 91 National team only had 3 Machine players and 1 Rage player out of 22 man roster. Relax S2S parent your team is no where closer to beating 91 Machine. As for the Kings, we will see if they even can field a on age team in the WSL!

There is a WSL?

Is that more sour grapes I hear from a 91 parent because they got beat by the kings ? It never ends . The kinda will have a team for the wsyl. Stop being a sore lost beci you got beat in the summer


Oh and as far as s2s goes , machine only beat them by a few goals last summer so relax 91 dad. Go tell your coach BS how great he is and how much you love him.
91 machine parents are the same people that would go around saying how their team “plays up”. Then they go back to the 2027 bracket, get beat and complain about holdbacks ? Yeah, that makes sense . But they’re not the only team that does that, the 91 cry babies do it for all of their teams, play in horrible tournaments, say they “ played up and blew teams out”…then when they get beat it’s always “ holdbacks, holdbacks, holdbacks” …same explanation, different team different year

You do realize that if you really “ played up “ against good teams ( I’m sure you never have ) then you wouldn’t be complaining about holdbacks . Oh and by the way, the kings have only one holdback. I guess you’re complaining about being beat by one kid ? Sad organization
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91 machine parents are the same people that would go around saying how their team “plays up”. Then they go back to the 2027 bracket, get beat and complain about holdbacks ? Yeah, that makes sense . But they’re not the only team that does that, the 91 cry babies do it for all of their teams, play in horrible tournaments, say they “ played up and blew teams out”…then when they get beat it’s always “ holdbacks, holdbacks, holdbacks” …same explanation, different team different year

You do realize that if you really “ played up “ against good teams ( I’m sure you never have ) then you wouldn’t be complaining about holdbacks . Oh and by the way, the kings have only one holdback. I guess you’re complaining about being beat by one kid ? Sad organization

Mic 🎤 drop !!!!
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91 machine parents are the same people that would go around saying how their team “plays up”. Then they go back to the 2027 bracket, get beat and complain about holdbacks ? Yeah, that makes sense . But they’re not the only team that does that, the 91 cry babies do it for all of their teams, play in horrible tournaments, say they “ played up and blew teams out”…then when they get beat it’s always “ holdbacks, holdbacks, holdbacks” …same explanation, different team different year

You do realize that if you really “ played up “ against good teams ( I’m sure you never have ) then you wouldn’t be complaining about holdbacks . Oh and by the way, the kings have only one holdback. I guess you’re complaining about being beat by one kid ? Sad organization

Mic 🎤 drop !!!!

Let’s hear what great program you play for. The jealousy is pretty apparent. 91 has the overwhelmingly best team on LI at 2030, 29, 28, 27, 25 and their HS teams are also 1 if not 2 at those ages.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 machine parents are the same people that would go around saying how their team “plays up”. Then they go back to the 2027 bracket, get beat and complain about holdbacks ? Yeah, that makes sense . But they’re not the only team that does that, the 91 cry babies do it for all of their teams, play in horrible tournaments, say they “ played up and blew teams out”…then when they get beat it’s always “ holdbacks, holdbacks, holdbacks” …same explanation, different team different year

You do realize that if you really “ played up “ against good teams ( I’m sure you never have ) then you wouldn’t be complaining about holdbacks . Oh and by the way, the kings have only one holdback. I guess you’re complaining about being beat by one kid ? Sad organization

Mic 🎤 drop !!!!

Let’s hear what great program you play for. The jealousy is pretty apparent. 91 has the overwhelmingly best team on LI at 2030, 29, 28, 27, 25 and their HS teams are also 1 if not 2 at those ages.

Yup....how could I forget that line too . When 91 gets beat everyone is just jealous if they state the facts . Same garbage different year . So why don't you save us the company lines . Here I'll say it for you .....anyone that doesn't play for 91 is jealous ,very jealous , our kids stink that's why they don't play for 91, 91 is the best hands down , nobody compares . Did I get that all right ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 machine parents are the same people that would go around saying how their team “plays up”. Then they go back to the 2027 bracket, get beat and complain about holdbacks ? Yeah, that makes sense . But they’re not the only team that does that, the 91 cry babies do it for all of their teams, play in horrible tournaments, say they “ played up and blew teams out”…then when they get beat it’s always “ holdbacks, holdbacks, holdbacks” …same explanation, different team different year

You do realize that if you really “ played up “ against good teams ( I’m sure you never have ) then you wouldn’t be complaining about holdbacks . Oh and by the way, the kings have only one holdback. I guess you’re complaining about being beat by one kid ? Sad organization

Mic 🎤 drop !!!!

Let’s hear what great program you play for. The jealousy is pretty apparent. 91 has the overwhelmingly best team on LI at 2030, 29, 28, 27, 25 and their HS teams are also 1 if not 2 at those ages.


91 cry babies lol
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 machine parents are the same people that would go around saying how their team “plays up”. Then they go back to the 2027 bracket, get beat and complain about holdbacks ? Yeah, that makes sense . But they’re not the only team that does that, the 91 cry babies do it for all of their teams, play in horrible tournaments, say they “ played up and blew teams out”…then when they get beat it’s always “ holdbacks, holdbacks, holdbacks” …same explanation, different team different year

You do realize that if you really “ played up “ against good teams ( I’m sure you never have ) then you wouldn’t be complaining about holdbacks . Oh and by the way, the kings have only one holdback. I guess you’re complaining about being beat by one kid ? Sad organization

Mic 🎤 drop !!!!

Let’s hear what great program you play for. The jealousy is pretty apparent. 91 has the overwhelmingly best team on LI at 2030, 29, 28, 27, 25 and their HS teams are also 1 if not 2 at those ages.
L O S E R
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 machine parents are the same people that would go around saying how their team “plays up”. Then they go back to the 2027 bracket, get beat and complain about holdbacks ? Yeah, that makes sense . But they’re not the only team that does that, the 91 cry babies do it for all of their teams, play in horrible tournaments, say they “ played up and blew teams out”…then when they get beat it’s always “ holdbacks, holdbacks, holdbacks” …same explanation, different team different year

You do realize that if you really “ played up “ against good teams ( I’m sure you never have ) then you wouldn’t be complaining about holdbacks . Oh and by the way, the kings have only one holdback. I guess you’re complaining about being beat by one kid ? Sad organization


Mic 🎤 drop !!!!

Let’s hear what great program you play for. The jealousy is pretty apparent. 91 has the overwhelmingly best team on LI at 2030, 29, 28, 27, 25 and their HS teams are also 1 if not 2 at those ages.



Yes, you got it. So jealous that I can’t sleep at night . I want to be a 91 trash bag
Enjoy it now 91, Everything has a Time span. Yours will start the down spiral very soon
Love the 91 haters.
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Love the 91 haters.


And we love the BS lovers ....what kind of shampoo do you use when you wash his hair ?
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Love the 91 haters.

91 wouldn't have so many haters if they just accepted losing gracefully instead of making excuses and crying like babies. Your sideline dads on this forum also have big mouths ....so trust me no one who hates 91 wants to play for 91 or is jealous of 91...they just don't like the trash that comes on this forum crying about holdbacks and how 91 is the best blah blah blah
How about when they have a Team(19) playing in MY Lax Tournaments, and they pull them last Minute because some better teams registered. Done all the time.
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How about when they have a Team(19) playing in MY Lax Tournaments, and they pull them last Minute because some better teams registered. Done all the time.


The best story I heard was when they were playing a two day tournament....lost the first day and decided to pack up their stuff and leave instead of playing the second day . As has been said on this forum before , 91 is a classless, trash filled organization
It's easy for 91 to call themselves the best when they control the tournaments that they play in and nobody goes to and they play garbage teams all the time . Then brag about blowouts ....sad
WOW now I’ve heard it all. Left a tournament after first day. What BS!!! And regarding complaining after losses and playing up years ago, the Machine lost to 2026 LI Express twice (who won the WSL) and Igloos 2026 A team twice besides beating all other 2026 teams they faced. Regarding playing in the 2027 bracket they have only lost to Hawks once while beating them twice and the Kings. Not bad two losses in the 2027 age group in their five years of existence. Get your facts straight if you want to continue to bash 91 Machine. One wonders, what cool aid did all you telephone tough guys and gals drink?!?!
You're right ...not bad . It's hard to lose when you play in my lollipop tournaments then say you only lost twice in 5 years . That's because you won't go out and play tournaments with the Hawks and kings in them more often . Too busy blowing out 91 tristate and the zingos . Stay strong buddy
Name any team in the top ten or top twenty of any 2027 National poll that the Machine haven’t beaten especially teams on the east coast due to geography? You probably can’t except the typical ignorant and apparent response, the Kings.
Name a team in the top ten that Machine hasn’t played or hasn’t beaten? Ya can’t because you have no idea what you’re talking about!
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You're right ...not bad . It's hard to lose when you play in my lollipop tournaments then say you only lost twice in 5 years . That's because you won't go out and play tournaments with the Hawks and kings in them more often . Too busy blowing out 91 tristate and the zingos . Stay strong buddy

Honest question. We all know the powerhouse teams from MD don’t come up here for the most part except for the NLF Championships.

Should Long Island teams be expected to travel out of state for every single tournament just to play Hawks, Madlax etc? Most teams play 5-7 tournaments in the spring/summer. Should they travel out of state every time? At some point travel/money has to be taken into account, regardless of competition.
How about the Texas Mustangs. They beat Hawks in pool play at NLF and lost to Kings in the semis in OT. Better than the Machine from what I saw
How about the Texas Mustangs. They beat Hawks in pool play at NLF and lost to Kings in the semis in OT. Better than the Machine from what I saw
91 wouldn’t have so many haters if they went so arrogant either. Marching out on the field at NLF with the goalie leading the way with an American flag and pulling a wagon with music blaring. So cocky. Then get pasted 10-3. Maybe some humble pie will be good for them.
Fair point. Hopefully the WSL does get going this year and hopefully they match up against each other. Would love to see it. Would love to see all top teams get after it against each other and let the chips fall where they may! Good for lacrosse in general!!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You're right ...not bad . It's hard to lose when you play in my lollipop tournaments then say you only lost twice in 5 years . That's because you won't go out and play tournaments with the Hawks and kings in them more often . Too busy blowing out 91 tristate and the zingos . Stay strong buddy

Honest question. We all know the powerhouse teams from MD don’t come up here for the most part except for the NLF Championships.

Should Long Island teams be expected to travel out of state for every single tournament just to play Hawks, Madlax etc? Most teams play 5-7 tournaments in the spring/summer. Should they travel out of state every time? At some point travel/money has to be taken into account, regardless of competition.


Really?

1. MD culture is lazy! Will take every shortcut not to travel. (A) holdback or create super teams to compete, (B) complain that WSYL was in Denver, etc.
2. LI desperately needs a facility with 10 plus turf fields with hotels and restaurants near.
3. 91, Express and Igloo to show up at meaningful tournaments together.
WHO ARE THE REBELS???
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WHO ARE THE REBELS???

You know who they are.
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Name a team in the top ten that Machine hasn’t played or hasn’t beaten? Ya can’t because you have no idea what you’re talking about!


Da kings, hawks ....boom. and again ...it's easy to beat every team when you play in your weak my lollipop tournaments
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You're right ...not bad . It's hard to lose when you play in my lollipop tournaments then say you only lost twice in 5 years . That's because you won't go out and play tournaments with the Hawks and kings in them more often . Too busy blowing out 91 tristate and the zingos . Stay strong buddy

Honest question. We all know the powerhouse teams from MD don’t come up here for the most part except for the NLF Championships.

Should Long Island teams be expected to travel out of state for every single tournament just to play Hawks, Madlax etc? Most teams play 5-7 tournaments in the spring/summer. Should they travel out of state every time? At some point travel/money has to be taken into account, regardless of competition.


Unfortunately yes you do have to travel out of state . Delaware , Maryland etc......to play the top teams . And yes the top teams are there . NAL is another top tournament that 91 shows up to just once in a while . They go to the NLF because it's their own tournament and even that has become watered down with B teams playing in it last year ,no hawks ,no kings etc.....then they go and say they are " national champs " lol. What a joke
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You're right ...not bad . It's hard to lose when you play in my lollipop tournaments then say you only lost twice in 5 years . That's because you won't go out and play tournaments with the Hawks and kings in them more often . Too busy blowing out 91 tristate and the zingos . Stay strong buddy

Honest question. We all know the powerhouse teams from MD don’t come up here for the most part except for the NLF Championships.

Should Long Island teams be expected to travel out of state for every single tournament just to play Hawks, Madlax etc? Most teams play 5-7 tournaments in the spring/summer. Should they travel out of state every time? At some point travel/money has to be taken into account, regardless of competition.


Unfortunately yes you do have to travel out of state . Delaware , Maryland etc......to play the top teams . And yes the top teams are there . NAL is another top tournament that 91 shows up to just once in a while . They go to the NLF because it's their own tournament and even that has become watered down with B teams playing in it last year ,no hawks ,no kings etc.....then they go and say they are " national champs " lol. What a joke

I think I have seen team 91 teams out of state pretty often but if I am not recalling correctly that's fine. I think they are pretty smart about how they do things. They play in lots of Long Island tournaments (which they run) so travel and summer weekends are pretty nice for their families. Whenever I see them it seems like they are doing really - be it on LI or out of state. I don't know if they are best nor do I really care but they seem to have a solid product. Their 2022 team and 2023 team are very good and have lots of kids going to incredible schools.
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You're right ...not bad . It's hard to lose when you play in my lollipop tournaments then say you only lost twice in 5 years . That's because you won't go out and play tournaments with the Hawks and kings in them more often . Too busy blowing out 91 tristate and the zingos . Stay strong buddy

Honest question. We all know the powerhouse teams from MD don’t come up here for the most part except for the NLF Championships.

Should Long Island teams be expected to travel out of state for every single tournament just to play Hawks, Madlax etc? Most teams play 5-7 tournaments in the spring/summer. Should they travel out of state every time? At some point travel/money has to be taken into account, regardless of competition.


Unfortunately yes you do have to travel out of state . Delaware , Maryland etc......to play the top teams . And yes the top teams are there . NAL is another top tournament that 91 shows up to just once in a while . They go to the NLF because it's their own tournament and even that has become watered down with B teams playing in it last year ,no hawks ,no kings etc.....then they go and say they are " national champs " lol. What a joke

I think I have seen team 91 teams out of state pretty often but if I am not recalling correctly that's fine. I think they are pretty smart about how they do things. They play in lots of Long Island tournaments (which they run) so travel and summer weekends are pretty nice for their families. Whenever I see them it seems like they are doing really - be it on LI or out of state. I don't know if they are best nor do I really care but they seem to have a solid product. Their 2022 team and 2023 team are very good and have lots of kids going to incredible schools.


That's wonderful...seems like you're a big fan . And correction , they have maybe one or two players going to " incredible" schools as you mention not lots ....the rest are average schools . Let's not forget there are a lot of Hofstra and adelphi alumni coaches at 91 so the bar isn't set very high in terms of college acceptance.
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You're right ...not bad . It's hard to lose when you play in my lollipop tournaments then say you only lost twice in 5 years . That's because you won't go out and play tournaments with the Hawks and kings in them more often . Too busy blowing out 91 tristate and the zingos . Stay strong buddy

Honest question. We all know the powerhouse teams from MD don’t come up here for the most part except for the NLF Championships.

Should Long Island teams be expected to travel out of state for every single tournament just to play Hawks, Madlax etc? Most teams play 5-7 tournaments in the spring/summer. Should they travel out of state every time? At some point travel/money has to be taken into account, regardless of competition.


Unfortunately yes you do have to travel out of state . Delaware , Maryland etc......to play the top teams . And yes the top teams are there . NAL is another top tournament that 91 shows up to just once in a while . They go to the NLF because it's their own tournament and even that has become watered down with B teams playing in it last year ,no hawks ,no kings etc.....then they go and say they are " national champs " lol. What a joke

I think I have seen team 91 teams out of state pretty often but if I am not recalling correctly that's fine. I think they are pretty smart about how they do things. They play in lots of Long Island tournaments (which they run) so travel and summer weekends are pretty nice for their families. Whenever I see them it seems like they are doing really - be it on LI or out of state. I don't know if they are best nor do I really care but they seem to have a solid product. Their 2022 team and 2023 team are very good and have lots of kids going to incredible schools.


If they aren't going to leave long island for big tournaments and want to have a nice weekend just play PAL and call it a day ...you'll have plenty of time at home .
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91 wouldn’t have so many haters if they went so arrogant either. Marching out on the field at NLF with the goalie leading the way with an American flag and pulling a wagon with music blaring. So cocky. Then get pasted 10-3. Maybe some humble pie will be good for them.


Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.

John Madden
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You're right ...not bad . It's hard to lose when you play in my lollipop tournaments then say you only lost twice in 5 years . That's because you won't go out and play tournaments with the Hawks and kings in them more often . Too busy blowing out 91 tristate and the zingos . Stay strong buddy

Honest question. We all know the powerhouse teams from MD don’t come up here for the most part except for the NLF Championships.

Should Long Island teams be expected to travel out of state for every single tournament just to play Hawks, Madlax etc? Most teams play 5-7 tournaments in the spring/summer. Should they travel out of state every time? At some point travel/money has to be taken into account, regardless of competition.


Unfortunately yes you do have to travel out of state . Delaware , Maryland etc......to play the top teams . And yes the top teams are there . NAL is another top tournament that 91 shows up to just once in a while . They go to the NLF because it's their own tournament and even that has become watered down with B teams playing in it last year ,no hawks ,no kings etc.....then they go and say they are " national champs " lol. What a joke

I think I have seen team 91 teams out of state pretty often but if I am not recalling correctly that's fine. I think they are pretty smart about how they do things. They play in lots of Long Island tournaments (which they run) so travel and summer weekends are pretty nice for their families. Whenever I see them it seems like they are doing really - be it on LI or out of state. I don't know if they are best nor do I really care but they seem to have a solid product. Their 2022 team and 2023 team are very good and have lots of kids going to incredible schools.


If they aren't going to leave long island for big tournaments and want to have a nice weekend just play PAL and call it a day ...you'll have plenty of time at home .


91 doesn't leave my lollipop tournaments or long island because they " own" those tournaments not bevo they're concerned about quality of life of the parents/kids. When they go out of my lollipop tournaments they have to pay a fee like every other team . That's what happens when you're owned by a corporation. The bottom line is all that matters and they're not going to pay for the big tournaments when they can stay in their own for free and beat weak teams .
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You're right ...not bad . It's hard to lose when you play in my lollipop tournaments then say you only lost twice in 5 years . That's because you won't go out and play tournaments with the Hawks and kings in them more often . Too busy blowing out 91 tristate and the zingos . Stay strong buddy

Honest question. We all know the powerhouse teams from MD don’t come up here for the most part except for the NLF Championships.

Should Long Island teams be expected to travel out of state for every single tournament just to play Hawks, Madlax etc? Most teams play 5-7 tournaments in the spring/summer. Should they travel out of state every time? At some point travel/money has to be taken into account, regardless of competition.


Unfortunately yes you do have to travel out of state . Delaware , Maryland etc......to play the top teams . And yes the top teams are there . NAL is another top tournament that 91 shows up to just once in a while . They go to the NLF because it's their own tournament and even that has become watered down with B teams playing in it last year ,no hawks ,no kings etc.....then they go and say they are " national champs " lol. What a joke

I think I have seen team 91 teams out of state pretty often but if I am not recalling correctly that's fine. I think they are pretty smart about how they do things. They play in lots of Long Island tournaments (which they run) so travel and summer weekends are pretty nice for their families. Whenever I see them it seems like they are doing really - be it on LI or out of state. I don't know if they are best nor do I really care but they seem to have a solid product. Their 2022 team and 2023 team are very good and have lots of kids going to incredible schools.


If they aren't going to leave long island for big tournaments and want to have a nice weekend just play PAL and call it a day ...you'll have plenty of time at home .


91 doesn't leave my lollipop tournaments or long island because they " own" those tournaments not bevo they're concerned about quality of life of the parents/kids. When they go out of my lollipop tournaments they have to pay a fee like every other team . That's what happens when you're owned by a corporation. The bottom line is all that matters and they're not going to pay for the big tournaments when they can stay in their own for free and beat weak teams .

Whatever they are doing seems to be working. They almost always kick the garbage out my kids teams (except the 2026 team - they are not great). There teams are all really good and they are not wasting time traveling to MD and where ever else you all think they should be traveling.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You're right ...not bad . It's hard to lose when you play in my lollipop tournaments then say you only lost twice in 5 years . That's because you won't go out and play tournaments with the Hawks and kings in them more often . Too busy blowing out 91 tristate and the zingos . Stay strong buddy

Honest question. We all know the powerhouse teams from MD don’t come up here for the most part except for the NLF Championships.

Should Long Island teams be expected to travel out of state for every single tournament just to play Hawks, Madlax etc? Most teams play 5-7 tournaments in the spring/summer. Should they travel out of state every time? At some point travel/money has to be taken into account, regardless of competition.


Unfortunately yes you do have to travel out of state . Delaware , Maryland etc......to play the top teams . And yes the top teams are there . NAL is another top tournament that 91 shows up to just once in a while . They go to the NLF because it's their own tournament and even that has become watered down with B teams playing in it last year ,no hawks ,no kings etc.....then they go and say they are " national champs " lol. What a joke

I always get a good laugh when I see the 16 daddy coaches pacing and screaming from the coaching sideline. Clown lacrosse. It's too funny.
It’s amazing that society dictates your animonsity towards devoted coaches who are passionate about developing young men like they were developed in their youth. I guess haters will be haters. By the way two of the three Hofstra alumn and coaches of Machine are well respected teachers in their communities and the other is an attorney. Relax bashing any degree one receives from a learning institution as they are all bs anyway. It’s who you know not what you know. Most hater posters on this site obviously are miserable because they don’t get that concept out of pure ignorance or simple laziness.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing that society dictates your animonsity towards devoted coaches who are passionate about developing young men like they were developed in their youth. I guess haters will be haters. By the way two of the three Hofstra alumn and coaches of Machine are well respected teachers in their communities and the other is an attorney. Relax bashing any degree one receives from a learning institution as they are all bs anyway. It’s who you know not what you know. Most hater posters on this site obviously are miserable because they don’t get that concept out of pure ignorance or simple laziness.

You confuse passion with emotion. I witnessed a lack of maturity and self control from coaches on the Machine coach sideline, more than once. One coach in particular. My guess is you are him. You are not respected. You need a short leash. If you are one of the Machine coaches, and you don’t know who I speak of, it’s you. If you don’t know, now you know.
What an assumption. Check coaches profiles on there site Columbo. I have watched many lax games over my life time. Get to know what teams are enjoyable to watch. Like to do my research on the teams that have enjoyed to watch. But those activities just spoken of probably escapes you because you focus on negativity to make yourself feel better. This site is all about negativity towards others. Very rarely see a positive post about anyone other than the posters team. Annoying!
I hope teams hold World Series tryouts. 2way announced theirs and posted some rules. 100 miles radius and open to all players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope teams hold World Series tryouts. 2way announced theirs and posted some rules. 100 miles radius and open to all players.

With regard to 2way, they sort of have to hold tryouts, given how many ineligible kids they have. Or I guess they can pull for their 2028 roster.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I hope teams hold World Series tryouts. 2way announced theirs and posted some rules. 100 miles radius and open to all players.

With regard to 2way, they sort of have to hold tryouts, given how many ineligible kids they have. Or I guess they can pull for their 2028 roster.

The Rules are restricting clubs from merging or renta player. Player has to play with the club. And only 4 coaches on the sidelines….
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 parents seem a little hurted.

Legacy rocks baby!!!
Puzzling. Rocks what?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 parents seem a little hurted.

Legacy rocks baby!!!
Puzzling. Rocks what?
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?

And the 9/1/08 cutoff will impact S2S and Express.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?

Just so i understand .

They have to be born on this date ot after to participate for 2022?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?

Just so i understand .

They have to be born on this date ot after to participate for 2022?

Yes, the player must be born on 9/1/08 or after to play.
Yes. All boys born before 9/1/2008 are too old. Same as it was in past years.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?

Just so i understand .

They have to be born on this date ot after to participate for 2022?

Yes. And Long Island Expresses table will be in the hallway so the parents don't insult the Native American kids and parents......AGAIN. That was sad
Where is the link?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?

Just so i understand .

They have to be born on this date ot after to participate for 2022?

Yes. And Long Island Expresses table will be in the hallway so the parents don't insult the Native American kids and parents......AGAIN. That was sad

How did they insult the Native Americans?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?

Just so i understand .

They have to be born on this date ot after to participate for 2022?

Yes. And Long Island Expresses table will be in the hallway so the parents don't insult the Native American kids and parents......AGAIN. That was sad

I think that one lady (not “the parents”) would have acted the same way to anyone sitting at that table that was meant and paid for , for their kids. If the pope himself was there, she would have done the same for little Johnny! So, stop with making it racial. It was a momma bear moment!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing that society dictates your animonsity towards devoted coaches who are passionate about developing young men like they were developed in their youth. I guess haters will be haters. By the way two of the three Hofstra alumn and coaches of Machine are well respected teachers in their communities and the other is an attorney. Relax bashing any degree one receives from a learning institution as they are all bs anyway. It’s who you know not what you know. Most hater posters on this site obviously are miserable because they don’t get that concept out of pure ignorance or simple laziness.

You confuse passion with emotion. I witnessed a lack of maturity and self control from coaches on the Machine coach sideline, more than once. One coach in particular. My guess is you are him. You are not respected. You need a short leash. If you are one of the Machine coaches, and you don’t know who I speak of, it’s you. If you don’t know, now you know.


Don't even bother trying to explain yourself to 91 coaches/parents....if you took the brain of every 91 coach and combined them they still wouldn't have a complete human brain . As you mentioned , complete lack of control and immature antics on the sideline all the time . Sad to see /watch .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing that society dictates your animonsity towards devoted coaches who are passionate about developing young men like they were developed in their youth. I guess haters will be haters. By the way two of the three Hofstra alumn and coaches of Machine are well respected teachers in their communities and the other is an attorney. Relax bashing any degree one receives from a learning institution as they are all bs anyway. It’s who you know not what you know. Most hater posters on this site obviously are miserable because they don’t get that concept out of pure ignorance or simple laziness.

You confuse passion with emotion. I witnessed a lack of maturity and self control from coaches on the Machine coach sideline, more than once. One coach in particular. My guess is you are him. You are not respected. You need a short leash. If you are one of the Machine coaches, and you don’t know who I speak of, it’s you. If you don’t know, now you know.


Don't even bother trying to explain yourself to 91 coaches/parents....if you took the brain of every 91 coach and combined them they still wouldn't have a complete human brain . As you mentioned , complete lack of control and immature antics on the sideline all the time . Sad to see /watch .



Watch out ....there is an attorney on the sideline . And we'll respected coaches/teachers . How about some of those well respected coaches aren't well respected at all by their peers . They are seen as trash for the way they carry themselves and their antics . Let's not forget the one who was the dirtiest player in mll history . Trash
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing that society dictates your animonsity towards devoted coaches who are passionate about developing young men like they were developed in their youth. I guess haters will be haters. By the way two of the three Hofstra alumn and coaches of Machine are well respected teachers in their communities and the other is an attorney. Relax bashing any degree one receives from a learning institution as they are all bs anyway. It’s who you know not what you know. Most hater posters on this site obviously are miserable because they don’t get that concept out of pure ignorance or simple laziness.

No really, you guys look like clowns. I'm not kidding. It's fun to watch.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing that society dictates your animonsity towards devoted coaches who are passionate about developing young men like they were developed in their youth. I guess haters will be haters. By the way two of the three Hofstra alumn and coaches of Machine are well respected teachers in their communities and the other is an attorney. Relax bashing any degree one receives from a learning institution as they are all bs anyway. It’s who you know not what you know. Most hater posters on this site obviously are miserable because they don’t get that concept out of pure ignorance or simple laziness.

No really, you guys look like clowns. I'm not kidding. It's fun to watch.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?

Just so i understand .

They have to be born on this date ot after to participate for 2022?

Yes. And Long Island Expresses table will be in the hallway so the parents don't insult the Native American kids and parents......AGAIN. That was sad

How did they insult the Native Americans?

Still waiting ….
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing that society dictates your animonsity towards devoted coaches who are passionate about developing young men like they were developed in their youth. I guess haters will be haters. By the way two of the three Hofstra alumn and coaches of Machine are well respected teachers in their communities and the other is an attorney. Relax bashing any degree one receives from a learning institution as they are all bs anyway. It’s who you know not what you know. Most hater posters on this site obviously are miserable because they don’t get that concept out of pure ignorance or simple laziness.

No really, you guys look like clowns. I'm not kidding. It's fun to watch.


That's their answer for everything..." Everyone is a hater and jealous of 91" lol.....simple question for the Hofstra lacrosse alumni . Did your coach at Hofstra act the way you do on the sideline ....I'll answer that for you . No, he was a class act and still is while he's coaching at Duke . He would probably be ashamed to be associated with any of you if he watched what you do on the sidelines . Case closed .
Can somebody tell the story how Native Americans were insulted at the World Series? I don’t care what club it was just tell the story.
It’s funny having older kids to see how hard express has fallen. They are now the 3rd or 4th best club on Long Island. Once the only snow in town is now a glorified B program. Many rich daddy’s that pay the bill tho believing it’s 2010 B program below average instruction
There is so much detest on this thread towards every club. We are all more alike than we like to admit. We want the best for our kids. Play a sport they love!!!! The club-style lacrosse, unfortunately, has turned into a money-grab. They all lost their way…it’s about the kids.

We are not innocent ether, please read these past posts and listen how petty everyone sounds, then remember the apple doesn’t fall from the tree.

Let the coaches do their thing, some clubs will win more than others that doesn’t make them better. Ask your kid, is he having fun, is he progressing as a player & Does he want to be there? Stop living through your kids. I bet Majority of you could not from from end-line to end-line without passing out. Stop being Monday morning quarterbacks and let the kids be kids.
They were not insulted, they were simply told they were sitting at the wrong table. The incident was exagerrated.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can somebody tell the story how Native Americans were insulted at the World Series? I don’t care what club it was just tell the story.

The whole thing is BS really. My information is 2nd hand but I'll share it anyway.

The problem was WSYL overbooked the room. Way overbooked it. So badly that there weren't even enough seats for the kids, let alone the parents who also paid to be there as well. The "dinner" is not free. It is not included. People bought tickets for their families, and there weren't enough seats, or even enough food.

The problem happened because the Native Americans were sitting at the table that was for Express. Whether the NA had a table of their own, or didn't, I do not know. I do know the table they were sitting at was Express's table. One of the Express moms asked them to move and it quickly went south from there.

Some clowns of course tried to make it racial. In the end, it was terrible or GREEDY planning by Body By Jake and a parent trying to get her kid a place to sit and eat that she paid for. I believe most parents would have done the same thing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can somebody tell the story how Native Americans were insulted at the World Series? I don’t care what club it was just tell the story.

The whole thing is BS really. My information is 2nd hand but I'll share it anyway.

The problem was WSYL overbooked the room. Way overbooked it. So badly that there weren't even enough seats for the kids, let alone the parents who also paid to be there as well. The "dinner" is not free. It is not included. People bought tickets for their families, and there weren't enough seats, or even enough food.

The problem happened because the Native Americans were sitting at the table that was for Express. Whether the NA had a table of their own, or didn't, I do not know. I do know the table they were sitting at was Express's table. One of the Express moms asked them to move and it quickly went south from there.

Some clowns of course tried to make it racial. In the end, it was terrible or GREEDY planning by Body By Jake and a parent trying to get her kid a place to sit and eat that she paid for. I believe most parents would have done the same thing.

Sorry to hear that. Was this past year when Express won?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 machine parents are the same people that would go around saying how their team “plays up”. Then they go back to the 2027 bracket, get beat and complain about holdbacks ? Yeah, that makes sense . But they’re not the only team that does that, the 91 cry babies do it for all of their teams, play in horrible tournaments, say they “ played up and blew teams out”…then when they get beat it’s always “ holdbacks, holdbacks, holdbacks” …same explanation, different team different year

You do realize that if you really “ played up “ against good teams ( I’m sure you never have ) then you wouldn’t be complaining about holdbacks . Oh and by the way, the kings have only one holdback. I guess you’re complaining about being beat by one kid ? Sad organization

Mic 🎤 drop !!!!

Let’s hear what great program you play for. The jealousy is pretty apparent. 91 has the overwhelmingly best team on LI at 2030, 29, 28, 27, 25 and their HS teams are also 1 if not 2 at those ages.
did they say 2030 lololol enough please . sound insane .
Which Teams having tryouts for world series ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which Teams having tryouts for world series ?

Tryouts? Aren’t clubs supposed to play with their teams from the season?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which Teams having tryouts for world series ?

Tryouts? Aren’t clubs supposed to play with their teams from the season?

They don't care about the kids. It's all about the ego of the club owner, and making a buck on kids.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s funny having older kids to see how hard express has fallen. They are now the 3rd or 4th best club on Long Island. Once the only snow in town is now a glorified B program. Many rich daddy’s that pay the bill tho believing it’s 2010 B program below average instruction


Lol...good one . 2026 just won the wsyl last summer.
What universe are you living in . 2027 top 3 on long island as well as the younger teams . Get a clue and a life
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s funny having older kids to see how hard express has fallen. They are now the 3rd or 4th best club on Long Island. Once the only snow in town is now a glorified B program. Many rich daddy’s that pay the bill tho believing it’s 2010 B program below average instruction


Lol...good one . 2026 just won the wsyl last summer.
What universe are you living in . 2027 top 3 on long island as well as the younger teams . Get a clue and a life

2026 did not win word series. 2025 did. 2026 team is not that good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s funny having older kids to see how hard express has fallen. They are now the 3rd or 4th best club on Long Island. Once the only snow in town is now a glorified B program. Many rich daddy’s that pay the bill tho believing it’s 2010 B program below average instruction


Lol...good one . 2026 just won the wsyl last summer.
What universe are you living in . 2027 top 3 on long island as well as the younger teams . Get a clue and a life

2026 did not win word series. 2025 did. 2026 team is not that good.

Guy please return to your basement….you have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re a sad and pathetic fool . You’re embarrassing yourself
Incorrect 91 win 2025 and LI Express won 2026.
2026 LI Express CoachC certainly did win the WSYL. They are currently ranked #1 in the 2026 division. Team 91 was 2025 age group.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about when they have a Team(19) playing in MY Lax Tournaments, and they pull them last Minute because some better teams registered. Done all the time.


The best story I heard was when they were playing a two day tournament....lost the first day and decided to pack up their stuff and leave instead of playing the second day . As has been said on this forum before , 91 is a classless, trash filled organization



😭😭😭 91 still top. Sorry you angry parents aren’t happy with lil
Johnny’s club but there’s always next year .. stop whining on a
Board for youth lacrosse go back to work and drink some coffee
Whatever stunad started saying Team 91 Machine went to a two day tournament and left before the second day had his/her facts wrong. Machine has finished every tournament that they ever signed up for. You want bash the organization or coaches that’s fine. Don’t post lies about the team in general or any team for that matter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about when they have a Team(19) playing in MY Lax Tournaments, and they pull them last Minute because some better teams registered. Done all the time.


The best story I heard was when they were playing a two day tournament....lost the first day and decided to pack up their stuff and leave instead of playing the second day . As has been said on this forum before , 91 is a classless, trash filled organization



😭😭😭 91 still top. Sorry you angry parents aren’t happy with lil
Johnny’s club but there’s always next year .. stop whining on a
Board for youth lacrosse go back to work and drink some coffee


Nobody whines better and louder than 91 parents....go buy some new bling for the spring .
So....for years it has been stated on this forum that team 91 has a " hand in the cookie jar" at USCL which is supposed to be independent of any clubs . So now , USCL takes over the wsyl ...the qualifiers were always in march in Delaware . All of a sudden USCL takes over the wsyl and qualifiers are in Tinton falls NJ at capelli? Guess who has all of their tournaments there ? Yup, you guessed it correctly, dynamic which also owns team 91. So I guess there really is a team 91/USCL connection . Can't wait to see the brackets at the team91/USCL world series.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s funny having older kids to see how hard express has fallen. They are now the 3rd or 4th best club on Long Island. Once the only snow in town is now a glorified B program. Many rich daddy’s that pay the bill tho believing it’s 2010 B program below average instruction

I don’t know about that. Their 2028’s are 2nd only to 91 venom
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?

Just so i understand .

They have to be born on this date ot after to participate for 2022?

Yes, the player must be born on 9/1/08 or after to play.

What website can I get this info from?
Same rules as all the other World Series lacrosse Games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How about when they have a Team(19) playing in MY Lax Tournaments, and they pull them last Minute because some better teams registered. Done all the time.


The best story I heard was when they were playing a two day tournament....lost the first day and decided to pack up their stuff and leave instead of playing the second day . As has been said on this forum before , 91 is a classless, trash filled organization



😭😭😭 91 still top. Sorry you angry parents aren’t happy with lil
Johnny’s club but there’s always next year .. stop whining on a
Board for youth lacrosse go back to work and drink some coffee


Nobody whines better and louder than 91 parents....go buy some new bling for the spring .


Awwww how cute ☺️
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So....for years it has been stated on this forum that team 91 has a " hand in the cookie jar" at USCL which is supposed to be independent of any clubs . So now , USCL takes over the wsyl ...the qualifiers were always in march in Delaware . All of a sudden USCL takes over the wsyl and qualifiers are in Tinton falls NJ at capelli? Guess who has all of their tournaments there ? Yup, you guessed it correctly, dynamic which also owns team 91. So I guess there really is a team 91/USCL connection . Can't wait to see the brackets at the team91/USCL world series.


That's a shame ....so basically taking something (world series ) which from what I heard was a joke to begin with and making it even worse now that it is being run by an organization that has ties to a lacrosse club ? Wow
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So....for years it has been stated on this forum that team 91 has a " hand in the cookie jar" at USCL which is supposed to be independent of any clubs . So now , USCL takes over the wsyl ...the qualifiers were always in march in Delaware . All of a sudden USCL takes over the wsyl and qualifiers are in Tinton falls NJ at capelli? Guess who has all of their tournaments there ? Yup, you guessed it correctly, dynamic which also owns team 91. So I guess there really is a team 91/USCL connection . Can't wait to see the brackets at the team91/USCL world series.

Ugh
"I don’t know about that. Their 2028’s are 2nd only to 91 venom"

Legacy would likely dispute the above claim...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?

Just so i understand .

They have to be born on this date ot after to participate for 2022?

Yes. And Long Island Expresses table will be in the hallway so the parents don't insult the Native American kids and parents......AGAIN. That was sad

I think that one lady (not “the parents”) would have acted the same way to anyone sitting at that table that was meant and paid for , for their kids. If the pope himself was there, she would have done the same for little Johnny! So, stop with making it racial. It was a momma bear moment!

If "momma bear" means you get to be a drunk butt who treats everyone like trash, sure.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?

Just so i understand .

They have to be born on this date ot after to participate for 2022?

Yes. And Long Island Expresses table will be in the hallway so the parents don't insult the Native American kids and parents......AGAIN. That was sad

I think that one lady (not “the parents”) would have acted the same way to anyone sitting at that table that was meant and paid for , for their kids. If the pope himself was there, she would have done the same for little Johnny! So, stop with making it racial. It was a momma bear moment!

If "momma bear" means you get to be a drunk butt who treats everyone like trash, sure.


It's funny how people keep talking about this ....meanwhile ..go to any 91 game and watch the parents on the sideline . I have witnessed it myself ,and if you really want to see trash week after week go take a look and listen to them . I have personally heard them belittle and trash talk other parents , things you wouldn't even imagine coming out of their mouths . Yet , people keep repeating am isolated incident for which there has been nothing but hearsay over and over
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great to see the World Series back. 9/1/2008 is the cutoff so that levels the playing field. All teams and tournaments should be based on age and not grade.
Looking forward to some good competition.
Only 4 coaches on the sidelines is going to affect one of the clubs that you love to bash. How will they decide who gets to stay?

Just so i understand .

They have to be born on this date ot after to participate for 2022?

Yes. And Long Island Expresses table will be in the hallway so the parents don't insult the Native American kids and parents......AGAIN. That was sad

I think that one lady (not “the parents”) would have acted the same way to anyone sitting at that table that was meant and paid for , for their kids. If the pope himself was there, she would have done the same for little Johnny! So, stop with making it racial. It was a momma bear moment!

If "momma bear" means you get to be a drunk butt who treats everyone like trash, sure.


It's funny how people keep talking about this ....meanwhile ..go to any 91 game and watch the parents on the sideline . I have witnessed it myself ,and if you really want to see trash week after week go take a look and listen to them . I have personally heard them belittle and trash talk other parents , things you wouldn't even imagine coming out of their mouths . Yet , people keep repeating am isolated incident for which there has been nothing but hearsay over and over


Not surprised ....91 is known to be trash from the top to bottom . Breads trash
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So....for years it has been stated on this forum that team 91 has a " hand in the cookie jar" at USCL which is supposed to be independent of any clubs . So now , USCL takes over the wsyl ...the qualifiers were always in march in Delaware . All of a sudden USCL takes over the wsyl and qualifiers are in Tinton falls NJ at capelli? Guess who has all of their tournaments there ? Yup, you guessed it correctly, dynamic which also owns team 91. So I guess there really is a team 91/USCL connection . Can't wait to see the brackets at the team91/USCL world series.

Ugh


As you pull up to the qualifiers you will see “ welcome to the 91 U.S. club lax World Series “ ……if I were teams I wouldn’t even go. Will be a joke
How many teams have registered for World Series Lacrosse?
National teams are just another way for organizations to " reach into the cookie" jar" for more of a money grab .nothing more,

But are the parents qho enable this worse?
Rebs 27 box 3-0 at NOTB. Bash all you want on this program they just keep building and improving.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebs 27 box 3-0 at NOTB. Bash all you want on this program they just keep building and improving.

3-1
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebs 27 box 3-0 at NOTB. Bash all you want on this program they just keep building and improving.

Who did they play?
Sorry to burst your bubble but nobody cares about box, it's for sloppy players that don't get enough playing time on their regular teams. Try winning a game on a real lacrosse field . Box.is a joke
Best team there was some team called Superstars from CT, 2027’s who played up in 7th / 8th grade group.
Okay, thanks MB!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebs 27 box 3-0 at NOTB. Bash all you want on this program they just keep building and improving.


Where do I sign up lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebs 27 box 3-0 at NOTB. Bash all you want on this program they just keep building and improving.

3-1

2027 Rebel team was not there.
On Rebels web site
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay, thanks MB!

I’m sure with all Rebels have going on MB spends his time on an anonymous messaging board!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"I don’t know about that. Their 2028’s are 2nd only to 91 venom"

Legacy would likely dispute the above claim...

Express has beaten Legacy the last 3 or so times they played
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"I don’t know about that. Their 2028’s are 2nd only to 91 venom"

Legacy would likely dispute the above claim...

Express has beaten Legacy the last 3 or so times they played


Legacy and rebels are a joke….on Long Island the only good teams for 2027 are 91, express and s2s…that’s it. The rest of you aren’t even in the conversation, don’t leave Long Island and are B level teams . Stop with the pipe dreams already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rebs 27 box 3-0 at NOTB. Bash all you want on this program they just keep building and improving.

Wasn't it an 8th grade team in the 7/8 division?
None of my son's friends on the 2027 team played in the tournament.
Rebels also had multiple 5th graders playing in the 3rd / 4th grade division. True class act organization.
Sorry, I just want to chime in - my son's team won the 3rd/4th grade bracket. Our entire team was only 3rd graders, not even one 4th grader; definitely no 5th graders. It was the Rebels 2031 Stealth team. We're very happy with our program.
2031 Rebels Lost to CSH 2030(Not all CSH , some extra Black Ice boys) In pool play 4-3
Then beat in Championship 3-1 with ZERO 2030 Kids. They could have, as it was a 2030/31 division
They actually have some 2032 kids on team.
Chew on that
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2031 Rebels Lost to CSH 2030(Not all CSH , some extra Black Ice boys) In pool play 4-3
Then beat in Championship 3-1 with ZERO 2030 Kids. They could have, as it was a 2030/31 division
They actually have some 2032 kids on team.
Chew on that

Thanks coach. But kudos to you, those little guys are fantastic and very unselfish. Hard to do that at that age. I actually think your second team could be our top team but don;t want to name bash our program as so many people do here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay, thanks MB!

I’m sure with all Rebels have going on MB spends his time on an anonymous messaging board!

This is Me
Mikey B
And When Im Free
I write Anonymously
ok, so specifically, the Rebels 30 Red Team in the OTHER bracket, not in the 31 stealth bracket, had multiple 5th graders playing. still lost
They Only had 8 Kids. How many were in 5th?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They Only had 8 Kids. How many were in 5th?

They had 8 kids. 1 5th grader. Coaches asked the tourney about the 1 kid since the 5th-grade rebels team was told they aren't playing that weekend, and were told its fine. This is on good authority, I know the 5th grader very well and was there.
This is a 7th grade site, not 1st through 6th.
The Rebels are a joke of a club ....they are and always will be a B level club playing on long island against town teams and other B teams ....so please can we move on from this joke of a discussion already and get back to some real lacrosse club talk ?
That's mean and unnecessary (no need to call me a cry baby - my feelings are not hurt by it.) We love our club and I hope you're happy with yours too. Best of luck.
Ha! The Rebels 27 United team (WS team) got hammered in the fall tourney at Deleware!! But a BOX championship is great for biz! Also mentioning your 2031 team on a 2027 thread gives you real credibility coach!
Bashing Rebels shows how insecure, and notIntelligent you are. Taking off like, well you'll see.
Rebels did not Bring up 2031, but thanks being the forum monitor.
REBELS SPACECRAFT (US 2022)! HOP ON THE SHUTTLE, EN-ROUTE TO THE MOON.
Rebels did not Bring up 2031, but thanks being the forum monitor.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ha! The Rebels 27 United team (WS team) got hammered in the fall tourney at Deleware!! But a BOX championship is great for biz! Also mentioning your 2031 team on a 2027 thread gives you real credibility coach!

How many 8th graders were on that bench?
Superstars is Roy Cosley's Box program. They're all Eclipse kids. Real good
Maybe Rebels can win a faceoff now with Greg Gurenlian lol... publicity stunt much?
The amount of detest/attention the Rebels get must mean they're onto something. Focus on your own kid and team. See you out there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe Rebels can win a faceoff now with Greg Gurenlian lol... publicity stunt much?

Enough with bashing everything rebels do.. good people doing a good thing. If you dont like them, dont try out .,.. but dont be salty!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Superstars is Roy Cosley's Box program. They're all Eclipse kids. Real good

They are good and there sure were a lot of them.....
Not publicly stunt it’s called progress,trending up,passing clubs by, getting stronger, advancing. Some people are so scared they rip them. Please send me a club with 10-20 full time employees. Not sure of exact number. My sons are on teams and nobody is better. Just keep it up, the more you poke a bear, the more you need to watch out.
I totally agree with never bashing a club. I also agree with not coming on here to continually promote your own club, on every thread, every other week……this is even more annoying. Just saying.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not publicly stunt it’s called progress,trending up,passing clubs by, getting stronger, advancing. Some people are so scared they rip them. Please send me a club with 10-20 full time employees. Not sure of exact number. My sons are on teams and nobody is better. Just keep it up, the more you poke a bear, the more you need to watch out.


Move along…..you’re a B level club that plays in B level tournaments and loses to town teams too. And when you play decent teams you get whipped . Now, get off the board and go promote your team to a different crowd that believes the garbage you spew.
How many days per week do most travel clubs practice at this time?
3-4 With Rebels all teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe Rebels can win a faceoff now with Greg Gurenlian lol... publicity stunt much?

LOL? That is so cool. Not possibly sure how you could knock that!! Greg is the Best!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many days per week do most travel clubs practice at this time?

91?
Express?
Igloo?
S2S?
Rebels?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many days per week do most travel clubs practice at this time?

91?
Express?
Igloo?
S2S?
Rebels?

Who cares….I know for a fact there are teams that practice once a week that smoke teams that are practicing 3 times per week so what is your point. If your kids team needs to practice 3 times per week in the winter that’s sad . Seems to be a lot of over compensating for those clubs . If your kid needs that much practice in 7th grade go find another sport . This isn’t developmental anymore .
My full time Rebel job is to come on BOTC and promote Rebels.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many days per week do most travel clubs practice at this time?

91?
Express?
Igloo?
S2S?
Rebels?

Who cares….I know for a fact there are teams that practice once a week that smoke teams that are practicing 3 times per week so what is your point. If your kids team needs to practice 3 times per week in the winter that’s sad . Seems to be a lot of over compensating for those clubs . If your kid needs that much practice in 7th grade go find another sport . This isn’t developmental anymore .

A lot of people care other than you sour laxers. Just because your kid can't get on a good club, it doesn't have anything to do with other people wanting to know facts to help them for tryouts in the summer.
Eight hours a day, seven days a week!
The insecurity of some of you is frightening. The Rebels are moving forward with hard work by all employees and dedication by parents and kids. Somethings evolve and others disappear. A few clubs will do both. Watch and when the smoke clears, Rebels will be King of the Hill. Does not happen over night, but it will.
What flavors does Rebels koolaid come in?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The insecurity of some of you is frightening. The Rebels are moving forward with hard work by all employees and dedication by parents and kids. Somethings evolve and others disappear. A few clubs will do both. Watch and when the smoke clears, Rebels will be King of the Hill. Does not happen over night, but it will.


We’ll see them at the NAL in June?
Not very Transparent, Mr Leg a C
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The insecurity of some of you is frightening. The Rebels are moving forward with hard work by all employees and dedication by parents and kids. Somethings evolve and others disappear. A few clubs will do both. Watch and when the smoke clears, Rebels will be King of the Hill. Does not happen over night, but it will.


We’ll see them at the NAL in June?

Well we know Mr.Legacy Spends time here!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many days per week do most travel clubs practice at this time?

91?
Express?
Igloo?
S2S?
Rebels?

Rebels 2 days speed, 2 days team, 1 day clinic, and Box
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many days per week do most travel clubs practice at this time?

91?
Express?
Igloo?
S2S?
Rebels?

Who cares….I know for a fact there are teams that practice once a week that smoke teams that are practicing 3 times per week so what is your point. If your kids team needs to practice 3 times per week in the winter that’s sad . Seems to be a lot of over compensating for those clubs . If your kid needs that much practice in 7th grade go find another sport . This isn’t developmental anymore .

A lot of people care other than you sour laxers. Just because your kid can't get on a good club, it doesn't have anything to do with other people wanting to know facts to help them for tryouts in the summer.

You're a brainless fool....go ahead and take your son to practice 3 days a week . Get on a good club ? Lol...my son is doing just great on one of the best teams on long island . So relax and hey your facts straight . Go drink the Kool aid at whatever club your kid is at who says it's great to be practicing 3 times per week . If the kid can't play the 3 times per week isn't changing anything. He will still be watching on the side in the spring .
When something or someone that was good and then is gone. What’s that called? Oh I know, it was a Legacy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many days per week do most travel clubs practice at this time?

91?
Express?
Igloo?
S2S?
Rebels?

Who cares….I know for a fact there are teams that practice once a week that smoke teams that are practicing 3 times per week so what is your point. If your kids team needs to practice 3 times per week in the winter that’s sad . Seems to be a lot of over compensating for those clubs . If your kid needs that much practice in 7th grade go find another sport . This isn’t developmental anymore .

A lot of people care other than you sour laxers. Just because your kid can't get on a good club, it doesn't have anything to do with other people wanting to know facts to help them for tryouts in the summer.

You're a brainless fool....go ahead and take your son to practice 3 days a week . Get on a good club ? Lol...my son is doing just great on one of the best teams on long island . So relax and hey your facts straight . Go drink the Kool aid at whatever club your kid is at who says it's great to be practicing 3 times per week . If the kid can't play the 3 times per week isn't changing anything. He will still be watching on the side in the spring .

So by this logic if you are good at something you don’t need to work as hard at it to “level up”

That’s the issue with some clubs, they focus on getting the best kids and then coaching them. They forget about the real development aspect that you are paying for. But hey as long as the teams talented, who cares about getting better.

Have that mindset in life there will be someone else working harder passing you buy…
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many days per week do most travel clubs practice at this time?

91?
Express?
Igloo?
S2S?
Rebels?

Who cares….I know for a fact there are teams that practice once a week that smoke teams that are practicing 3 times per week so what is your point. If your kids team needs to practice 3 times per week in the winter that’s sad . Seems to be a lot of over compensating for those clubs . If your kid needs that much practice in 7th grade go find another sport . This isn’t developmental anymore .

A lot of people care other than you sour laxers. Just because your kid can't get on a good club, it doesn't have anything to do with other people wanting to know facts to help them for tryouts in the summer.

You're a brainless fool....go ahead and take your son to practice 3 days a week . Get on a good club ? Lol...my son is doing just great on one of the best teams on long island . So relax and hey your facts straight . Go drink the Kool aid at whatever club your kid is at who says it's great to be practicing 3 times per week . If the kid can't play the 3 times per week isn't changing anything. He will still be watching on the side in the spring .

This guy touched a nerve. His kid must not be that good and is trying to keyboard muscle his son into thinking he's good at one day per week wall ball.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many days per week do most travel clubs practice at this time?

91?
Express?
Igloo?
S2S?
Rebels?

Who cares….I know for a fact there are teams that practice once a week that smoke teams that are practicing 3 times per week so what is your point. If your kids team needs to practice 3 times per week in the winter that’s sad . Seems to be a lot of over compensating for those clubs . If your kid needs that much practice in 7th grade go find another sport . This isn’t developmental anymore .

A lot of people care other than you sour laxers. Just because your kid can't get on a good club, it doesn't have anything to do with other people wanting to know facts to help them for tryouts in the summer.

You're a brainless fool....go ahead and take your son to practice 3 days a week . Get on a good club ? Lol...my son is doing just great on one of the best teams on long island . So relax and hey your facts straight . Go drink the Kool aid at whatever club your kid is at who says it's great to be practicing 3 times per week . If the kid can't play the 3 times per week isn't changing anything. He will still be watching on the side in the spring .

This guy touched a nerve. His kid must not be that good and is trying to keyboard muscle his son into thinking he's good at one day per week wall ball.


You're sad and pathetic just like your rebels club . Will always be a minor league lacrosse club
Your blatant tournaments are sad too ....all B teams and town teams . It's a shame that your rebels parents think you have good teams . Stay on long island and beat town teams son , that's what the rebels are known for . Let the big boys handle the rest .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Your blatant tournaments are sad too ....all B teams and town teams . It's a shame that your rebels parents think you have good teams . Stay on long island and beat town teams son , that's what the rebels are known for . Let the big boys handle the rest .

No one saying Rebels have the best teams at the older ages, younger ages do. People just saying they are trending in the right direction and doing things the right way.. its not that hard to see... also blatant does an awesome job with their tourneys.. its clear youre just simply a hater (or competitor lol)
Who are the big boys, according to your wife it’s not u
I liked the Blatant tournaments we didn’t have to travel off the island! I wish Mike had more of them so if you don’t like it then to bad!
Blatant probably does not to make same mistake my lacrosse tournaments/dynamic/92 did my having bad tournaments every weekend. Sending own teams and making schedules to benefit themselves.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When something or someone that was good and then is gone. What’s that called? Oh I know, it was a Legacy.

They used to be good. Toxic parents ruin everything.
You all bash organizations whether 91 Rebels legscy etc like your kids lax future solely rides on which team they play for. There are boys on top teams who have shortcomings and some great players athletes who choose to play on other teams that are not ranked very high who dont want the BS. Your son will have it or not. Some families cannot logistically deal with some teams regardless of rankings.
Well said
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many days per week do most travel clubs practice at this time?

91?
Express?
Igloo?
S2S?
Rebels?

Who cares….I know for a fact there are teams that practice once a week that smoke teams that are practicing 3 times per week so what is your point. If your kids team needs to practice 3 times per week in the winter that’s sad . Seems to be a lot of over compensating for those clubs . If your kid needs that much practice in 7th grade go find another sport . This isn’t developmental anymore .

A lot of people care other than you sour laxers. Just because your kid can't get on a good club, it doesn't have anything to do with other people wanting to know facts to help them for tryouts in the summer.

You're a brainless fool....go ahead and take your son to practice 3 days a week . Get on a good club ? Lol...my son is doing just great on one of the best teams on long island . So relax and hey your facts straight . Go drink the Kool aid at whatever club your kid is at who says it's great to be practicing 3 times per week . If the kid can't play the 3 times per week isn't changing anything. He will still be watching on the side in the spring .

This guy touched a nerve. His kid must not be that good and is trying to keyboard muscle his son into thinking he's good at one day per week wall ball.

He's probably short too.
frown
I heard Rebels were playing Riptide next week?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When something or someone that was good and then is gone. What’s that called? Oh I know, it was a Legacy.

They used to be good. Toxic parents ruin everything.

Toxic is right.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard Rebels were playing Riptide next week?


It’s actually a game the Rebels could win.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I heard Rebels were playing Riptide next week?


It’s actually a game the Rebels could win.


Feeling very rebellious
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When something or someone that was good and then is gone. What’s that called? Oh I know, it was a Legacy.

They used to be good. Toxic parents ruin everything.

Toxic is right.
Can't blame parents here for toxicity.
Parents definitely didn't destroy the potential that team had in this case.
What happened to Rush? I thought they were going to be the new hot club?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happened to Rush? I thought they were going to be the new hot club?

Who said that?
Legacy always tried running with the big clubs but never got there!
2 of 3 owners are great guys. Ones, well let’s just say does not fit that category. Most important thing to a man is his Word(the truth) someone over there never got that concept.
world series teams registered so far, only the top 7 advance.
less than a month away. predictions on the 7?

Igloo
team mass
express north
LI express
91 rage
91 machine
legacy
FCA
primetime
rebels
2way
albany power
cavalry
shore to shore
predators
orange crush
eclipse
Curious question because it relates to my son:
How many 2nd line players, in general, see the field at WSYL or other top tournaments?
How many of these 2nd line kids will move to other teams this summer after tryouts?
My son is second line on a AA team, but not sure if I should move him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2 of 3 owners are great guys. Ones, well let’s just say does not fit that category. Most important thing to a man is his Word(the truth) someone over there never got that concept.

C'mon you have got to give us more than that. Which one?
did the legacy/rush merge help the legacy gators? they weren't a strong team to begin with
Originally Posted by Anonymous
world series teams registered so far, only the top 7 advance.
less than a month away. predictions on the 7?

Igloo
team mass
express north
LI express
91 rage
91 machine
legacy
FCA
primetime
rebels
2way
albany power
cavalry
shore to shore
predators
orange crush
eclipse

Team Mass
LI Express
91 Machine
Rebels
2Way
Shore 2 Shore
Eclipse
If we’re to follow US Club Lacrosse National Rankings:
1. 91 machine (1)
2. 2way (6)
3. team mass (10)
4. shore to shore (11)
5. LI express (13)
6. FCA (30)
7. legacy (35)

But US Club rankings don’t take into account age eligibility and any stud acquisitions/losses. In addition these rankings include fall ball.

Also, a few clubs that entered are new which could be, and likely are, super teams in the making. Why else would they be entering this tournament as a new club? IMO, less than one year old clubs should not be allowed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If we’re to follow US Club Lacrosse National Rankings:
1. 91 machine (1)
2. 2way (6)
3. team mass (10)
4. shore to shore (11)
5. LI express (13)
6. FCA (30)
7. legacy (35)

But US Club rankings don’t take into account age eligibility and any stud acquisitions/losses. In addition these rankings include fall ball.

Also, a few clubs that entered are new which could be, and likely are, super teams in the making. Why else would they be entering this tournament as a new club? IMO, less than one year old clubs should not be allowed.


Eclipse is not in the rankings for whatever reason ..they are a top 10 team . Legacy is a joke . And s2s has two of their top players age out (goalie and beat defender) so these rankings mean nothing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If we’re to follow US Club Lacrosse National Rankings:
1. 91 machine (1)
2. 2way (6)
3. team mass (10)
4. shore to shore (11)
5. LI express (13)
6. FCA (30)
7. legacy (35)

But US Club rankings don’t take into account age eligibility and any stud acquisitions/losses. In addition these rankings include fall ball.

Also, a few clubs that entered are new which could be, and likely are, super teams in the making. Why else would they be entering this tournament as a new club? IMO, less than one year old clubs should not be allowed.


Eclipse is not in the rankings for whatever reason ..they are a top 10 team . Legacy is a joke . And s2s has two of their top players age out (goalie and beat defender) so these rankings mean nothing

Rankings are good directionally when one takes into account factors you raise. So what’s your ranking then?

1. 91 machine (1)
2. 2way (6)
3. team mass (10)
4. Eclipse
5. LI express (13)
6. shore to shore (11)
7. FCA (30)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2 of 3 owners are great guys. Ones, well let’s just say does not fit that category. Most important thing to a man is his Word(the truth) someone over there never got that concept.


Owners are good people they just let some coaches run amok or were just complicit in fixing it properly or just enabled it. There was so much potential lost.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If we’re to follow US Club Lacrosse National Rankings:
1. 91 machine (1)
2. 2way (6)
3. team mass (10)
4. shore to shore (11)
5. LI express (13)
6. FCA (30)
7. legacy (35)

But US Club rankings don’t take into account age eligibility and any stud acquisitions/losses. In addition these rankings include fall ball.

Also, a few clubs that entered are new which could be, and likely are, super teams in the making. Why else would they be entering this tournament as a new club? IMO, less than one year old clubs should not be allowed.


Eclipse is not in the rankings for whatever reason ..they are a top 10 team . Legacy is a joke . And s2s has two of their top players age out (goalie and beat defender) so these rankings mean nothing

Rankings are good directionally when one takes into account factors you raise. So what’s your ranking then?

1. 91 machine (1)
2. 2way (6)
3. team mass (10)
4. Eclipse
5. LI express (13)
6. shore to shore (11)
7. FCA (30)


I suppose that order seems ok except that as mentioned earlier s2s goalie and beat defender age out so who knows what that will mean for that team . Also , where is bbl? Is their team too old or just choosing not to go ? Bbl is another top 10 team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If we’re to follow US Club Lacrosse National Rankings:
1. 91 machine (1)
2. 2way (6)
3. team mass (10)
4. shore to shore (11)
5. LI express (13)
6. FCA (30)
7. legacy (35)

But US Club rankings don’t take into account age eligibility and any stud acquisitions/losses. In addition these rankings include fall ball.

Also, a few clubs that entered are new which could be, and likely are, super teams in the making. Why else would they be entering this tournament as a new club? IMO, less than one year old clubs should not be allowed.


Eclipse is not in the rankings for whatever reason ..they are a top 10 team . Legacy is a joke . And s2s has two of their top players age out (goalie and beat defender) so these rankings mean nothing

Rankings are good directionally when one takes into account factors you raise. So what’s your ranking then?

1. 91 machine (1)
2. 2way (6)
3. team mass (10)
4. Eclipse
5. LI express (13)
6. shore to shore (11)
7. FCA (30)


I suppose that order seems ok except that as mentioned earlier s2s goalie and beat defender age out so who knows what that will mean for that team . Also , where is bbl? Is their team too old or just choosing not to go ? Bbl is another top 10 team


BBL would compete in the Mid Atlantic Bracket if they enter.

And don’t count out the new super teams!
Please stop drinking and putting the Rebels in - too funny
re: Curious question because it relates to my son:
How many 2nd line players, in general, see the field at WSYL or other top tournaments?
How many of these 2nd line kids will move to other teams this summer after tryouts?
My son is second line on a AA team, but not sure if I should move him.

if the club's smart they get all their kids in but I want my kid playing, on the field. Even if it means he's on a lesser team. Kids do improve a bunch at practice but nothing like they would during games. Ego aside, find a team where he's playing, a contributor. my two cents.
this random dudes opinion -

1. 91 Machine - no question
2. Eclipse - didn't play enough fall games to "rank" but are real good and on age
3. LI Express - no question
4. S2S - should be there, they've played together long enough
5. Team Mass - big question bc they're not a real team but have to assume Mass will show up, they'll be good
6. 2way - team is mostly brunwick holdbacks who are not that good in the first place but also age out for the WS. shouldn't even be on the list but they have cool unis
7. 91 Rage - giving them the nod since they've been together a long time and play the right way!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
this random dudes opinion -

1. 91 Machine - no question
2. Eclipse - didn't play enough fall games to "rank" but are real good and on age
3. LI Express - no question
4. S2S - should be there, they've played together long enough
5. Team Mass - big question bc they're not a real team but have to assume Mass will show up, they'll be good
6. 2way - team is mostly brunwick holdbacks who are not that good in the first place but also age out for the WS. shouldn't even be on the list but they have cool unis
7. 91 Rage - giving them the nod since they've been together a long time and play the right way!

Good list
Sweetlax Upstate will be there too!
Sweetlax Upstate will be there too.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
this random dudes opinion -

1. 91 Machine - no question
2. Eclipse - didn't play enough fall games to "rank" but are real good and on age
3. LI Express - no question
4. S2S - should be there, they've played together long enough
5. Team Mass - big question bc they're not a real team but have to assume Mass will show up, they'll be good
6. 2way - team is mostly brunwick holdbacks who are not that good in the first place but also age out for the WS. shouldn't even be on the list but they have cool unis
7. 91 Rage - giving them the nod since they've been together a long time and play the right way!


Not far off but you're forgetting FCA and sweetlax. Also, go take a look at rages strength of schedule . They don't play any good teams and when they do they lose every time . Not sure they even crack the top 10. Rage and igloo haven't been in the conversation for a long time .
the WS website says that the top 7 will advance from each division. the divisions outside the east don't even have 7 teams registered yet? this is already turning into a joke. our kids are going to travel to maryland to play against each other again.
Can someone please share the link to the organization taking over the WS? Thank you! I can't find the site.
https://lacrosseworldserieschampionship.com/
Is there a reason why my posts don't go up ? This site is ridiculous . Becoming like twitter and Facebook
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the WS website says that the top 7 will advance from each division. the divisions outside the east don't even have 7 teams registered yet? this is already turning into a joke. our kids are going to travel to maryland to play against each other again.


Has always been a joke . Lacrosse is just no that popular across the country. Even in the northeast there are places that have no idea what lacrosse is . They keep saying it's the fastest growing sport but still not as popular as slow pitch softball and that's a fact . And the PLL can't even fill half of a stadium . What did you think would happen when USCL took it j we and expanses rosters to 30? Was always a joke and will always be a joke
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the WS website says that the top 7 will advance from each division. the divisions outside the east don't even have 7 teams registered yet? this is already turning into a joke. our kids are going to travel to maryland to play against each other again.


Has always been a joke . Lacrosse is just no that popular across the country. Even in the northeast there are places that have no idea what lacrosse is . They keep saying it's the fastest growing sport but still not as popular as slow pitch softball and that's a fact . And the PLL can't even fill half of a stadium . What did you think would happen when USCL took it j we and expanses rosters to 30? Was always a joke and will always be a joke


Even most of the kids could take it or leave it

Followed a bunch of them since kindergarten through now playing on various town and travel teams and they cared less until about 6 months ago when the travel management marketing team gets on coaches and then they get on parents and players about the illusion that the WSYL matters so maybe now they care a little because that is all they have heard forthe last9- 12 months
For ONE tournament, the playing field has been leveled, and you don’t like it. LMAO

All the detest for just ONE tournament in probably 100 plus tournaments our kids will play in before college.

Try not to be so obvious next time of the advantage you give your kid/team.
Yeah, I'm sure most of the kids had no interest in playing on ESPN last year - they could "take it or leave it". Because you can't use your age advantage, your teams are non-competitive . . . and therefore the tourney is notIntelligent and a joke.
Stop with the detest. It is ONE tournament in 100 plus. What are you getting so mad about?

It’s the only age based tournament around. Attend if you can/want, or don’t. Life goes on.

If you’re kid is going, great. Will see you there.
This board has become a joke, posts are now put up then taken down if someone doesn’t like them or not put up at all. Apparently the admin is biased and this forum has become just like Twitter and Facebook. If the admin and his/her friends font like adverse opinions they don’t share them . What a joke
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the WS website says that the top 7 will advance from each division. the divisions outside the east don't even have 7 teams registered yet? this is already turning into a joke. our kids are going to travel to maryland to play against each other again.


Each region has a different number of teams that qualify.
So whenever common sense rules apply, that you don’t like or try and violate, you classify it as a joke? I see the pattern here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yeah, I'm sure most of the kids had no interest in playing on ESPN last year - they could "take it or leave it". Because you can't use your age advantage, your teams are non-competitive . . . and therefore the tourney is notIntelligent and a joke.


Age advantage? Lol....you guys are too much . Must be a 91 parent , those are the only ones I have ever heard cry about age or anything else for that matter . Get a grip . The question was posted as to why no other regions many if any teams and the answer is lacrosse is only popular in the northeast . Only 2% participation rate across the country . It's not a main stream sport and never will be . So while you may think little johnny and his coach are a big deal , you're a small minority of the population who thinks so. Nobody else cares . That is why the northeast has many teams registered for the qualifiers and other regions do not . So go back to your coach and tell him to settle down because nobody knows who he is except for you and your kids .
I amend my list - making Sweetlax #4, bumping down the rest (sry Rage) and ahhhhh FCA stinks and is too old.
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

You’re exactly right….and proved the point being made . It’s just like any other tournament, not a big deal and will most likely have two Long Island teams in the final
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

You’re exactly right….and proved the point being made . It’s just like any other tournament, not a big deal and will most likely have two Long Island teams in the final

You are not right. My older son played a few years ago in Denver and it was a tournament like no other. Sad it is not around anymore.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

That's a pretty big corridor. 1900 miles and 110 million people. All we need is for Lia Thomas to kill Title IX or for major universities to finally form a different NCAA and lacrosse could finally grow.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

You’re exactly right….and proved the point being made . It’s just like any other tournament, not a big deal and will most likely have two Long Island teams in the final

You are not right. My older son played a few years ago in Denver and it was a tournament like no other. Sad it is not around anymore.


Congratulations...you and many other long islanders spent thousands to travel to Denver to play long island teams . And guess what ...nobody knows what even happened there because the majority of kids across the country don't play lacrosse. Money well spent lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

You’re exactly right….and proved the point being made . It’s just like any other tournament, not a big deal and will most likely have two Long Island teams in the final

You are not right. My older son played a few years ago in Denver and it was a tournament like no other. Sad it is not around anymore.


Congratulations...you and many other long islanders spent thousands to travel to Denver to play long island teams . And guess what ...nobody knows what even happened there because the majority of kids across the country don't play lacrosse. Money well spent lol

Says the chuckle head who spending his time on a youth lacrosse thread.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

You’re exactly right….and proved the point being made . It’s just like any other tournament, not a big deal and will most likely have two Long Island teams in the final

You are not right. My older son played a few years ago in Denver and it was a tournament like no other. Sad it is not around anymore.


Congratulations...you and many other long islanders spent thousands to travel to Denver to play long island teams . And guess what ...nobody knows what even happened there because the majority of kids across the country don't play lacrosse. Money well spent lol

Says the chuckle head who spending his time on a youth lacrosse thread.


I come on here to see how sad and pathetic some of you are posting on here and boy do you far exceed my expectations. I love it when some of the coaches get involved too to defend their clubs . Sorry pal but lacrosse just isn't that big of a deal and neither are you and your clubs . Stop living through your kids .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

You’re exactly right….and proved the point being made . It’s just like any other tournament, not a big deal and will most likely have two Long Island teams in the final

You are not right. My older son played a few years ago in Denver and it was a tournament like no other. Sad it is not around anymore.


Congratulations...you and many other long islanders spent thousands to travel to Denver to play long island teams . And guess what ...nobody knows what even happened there because the majority of kids across the country don't play lacrosse. Money well spent lol

Says the chuckle head who spending his time on a youth lacrosse thread.


I come on here to see how sad and pathetic some of you are posting on here and boy do you far exceed my expectations. I love it when some of the coaches get involved too to defend their clubs . Sorry pal but lacrosse just isn't that big of a deal and neither are you and your clubs . Stop living through your kids .

Seems to be a very big deal for you
Qualifiers are two weeks away. Time to see the brackets and who plays who.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

The old World Series had a little credibility. The final was on ESPN etc. I agree in the grand scheme of things it means nothing. It’s a tough sell to ask teams from Colorado, California etc to fly all the way out here to get crushed by Long Island teams. The last year of the tournament the other regions out west and south had very few teams enroll in the qualifier.

With the new event looking a lot less credible, I predict the will just become another east coast tournament.
Is everyone having a hard time finding lax cleats online? Looking for annything in size 5.5M/6.5 Women’s. Any favorite stores?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

The old World Series had a little credibility. The final was on ESPN etc. I agree in the grand scheme of things it means nothing. It’s a tough sell to ask teams from Colorado, California etc to fly all the way out here to get crushed by Long Island teams. The last year of the tournament the other regions out west and south had very few teams enroll in the qualifier.

With the new event looking a lot less credible, I predict the will just become another east coast tournament.


It already is an easy coast tournament...go look at the other regions . Almost no teams going to qualifier .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is everyone having a hard time finding lax cleats online? Looking for annything in size 5.5M/6.5 Women’s. Any favorite stores?

Dicks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

You’re exactly right….and proved the point being made . It’s just like any other tournament, not a big deal and will most likely have two Long Island teams in the final

You are not right. My older son played a few years ago in Denver and it was a tournament like no other. Sad it is not around anymore.


Congratulations...you and many other long islanders spent thousands to travel to Denver to play long island teams . And guess what ...nobody knows what even happened there because the majority of kids across the country don't play lacrosse. Money well spent lol

Sounds like the gentleman and his son had FUN which, last I checked, was what playing games is all about.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

You’re exactly right….and proved the point being made . It’s just like any other tournament, not a big deal and will most likely have two Long Island teams in the final

You are not right. My older son played a few years ago in Denver and it was a tournament like no other. Sad it is not around anymore.


Congratulations...you and many other long islanders spent thousands to travel to Denver to play long island teams . And guess what ...nobody knows what even happened there because the majority of kids across the country don't play lacrosse. Money well spent lol

Says the chuckle head who spending his time on a youth lacrosse thread.


I come on here to see how sad and pathetic some of you are posting on here and boy do you far exceed my expectations. I love it when some of the coaches get involved too to defend their clubs . Sorry pal but lacrosse just isn't that big of a deal and neither are you and your clubs . Stop living through your kids .

I also come on here to see how sad and pathetic people are. You fit right in (just like me)!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We get it already . . . the interest in lacrosse outside of the I-95 corridor is relatively small (but growing). What does that have to do with whether the WSYL was a worthwhile tournament? The same could be said about every youth lax tourney.

You’re exactly right….and proved the point being made . It’s just like any other tournament, not a big deal and will most likely have two Long Island teams in the final

You are not right. My older son played a few years ago in Denver and it was a tournament like no other. Sad it is not around anymore.


Congratulations...you and many other long islanders spent thousands to travel to Denver to play long island teams . And guess what ...nobody knows what even happened there because the majority of kids across the country don't play lacrosse. Money well spent lol

Hi Rage!
The " world series" hahaha...go look at the qualifier regions . About 90% of the country is sending 4 teams total and the northeast has about 16 teams . Stop calling it a world series ...rename it the "northeast lacrosse championship" because no one else plays lacrosse. Stop pretending that lacrosse is a big deal and spending thousands to say your son is on a "top team " and going to the world series .
It’s sad that society is just like this guy who posts only negative comments to make himself feel better. If you don’t like the game of lacrosse so be it, but no reason to bash the sport and it’s participants (parent and players) because they are passionate about the game. Whether it’s growing or not. If you did your homework then you would know that the sport has steadily grown the last 30 years.
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The " world series" hahaha...go look at the qualifier regions . About 90% of the country is sending 4 teams total and the northeast has about 16 teams . Stop calling it a world series ...rename it the "northeast lacrosse championship" because no one else plays lacrosse. Stop pretending that lacrosse is a big deal and spending thousands to say your son is on a "top team " and going to the world series .

Sorry your son’s Maryland club team isn’t competing this year because they weren’t competitive last year on age. Oh wait, even if your club entered you wouldn’t be able to play because your kid aged out. 🥲
[quote=Anonymous]It’s sad that society is just like this guy who posts only negative comments to make himself feel better. If you don’t like the game of lacrosse so be it, but no reason to bash the sport and it’s participants (parent and players) because they are passionate about the game. Whether it’s growing or not. If you did your homework then you would know that the sport has steadily grown the last 30 years.[/quote


Grown? Lol ....right . It has grown from 1% participation to 2% youth participation, go look it up . I guess that's growth of 100% hahaha
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s sad that society is just like this guy who posts only negative comments to make himself feel better. If you don’t like the game of lacrosse so be it, but no reason to bash the sport and it’s participants (parent and players) because they are passionate about the game. Whether it’s growing or not. If you did your homework then you would know that the sport has steadily grown the last 30 years.


Sorry snowflake ...maybe you can go to a safe space and you won't hear anything that will make you cry
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s sad that society is just like this guy who posts only negative comments to make himself feel better. If you don’t like the game of lacrosse so be it, but no reason to bash the sport and it’s participants (parent and players) because they are passionate about the game. Whether it’s growing or not. If you did your homework then you would know that the sport has steadily grown the last 30 years.


What's sad is a lacrosse director walking around saying he won 7 rings like tom Brady did hahaha...now that is sad . Comparing yourself to a football legend who played one of the most popular sports in the world to yourself who played lacrosse hahaha, now that's sad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s sad that society is just like this guy who posts only negative comments to make himself feel better. If you don’t like the game of lacrosse so be it, but no reason to bash the sport and it’s participants (parent and players) because they are passionate about the game. Whether it’s growing or not. If you did your homework then you would know that the sport has steadily grown the last 30 years.


What's sad is a lacrosse director walking around saying he won 7 rings like tom Brady did hahaha...now that is sad . Comparing yourself to a football legend who played one of the most popular sports in the world to yourself who played lacrosse hahaha, now that's sad


The only bigger lost than a person who reads, blogs and responds on a 7th grade lax message board is someone who reads blogs and responds on a 7th grade lax message board who doesn’t even like lacrosse. Must have a lot of time on your hands to read about a 7th grade sport that doesn’t matter to you. We love and are passionate about our game. Sometimes too passionate and super competitive. But at the end of the day at least we spend time doing what we and our kids love. Get out of here with all that detest. Love is Louder!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s sad that society is just like this guy who posts only negative comments to make himself feel better. If you don’t like the game of lacrosse so be it, but no reason to bash the sport and it’s participants (parent and players) because they are passionate about the game. Whether it’s growing or not. If you did your homework then you would know that the sport has steadily grown the last 30 years.


What's sad is a lacrosse director walking around saying he won 7 rings like tom Brady did hahaha...now that is sad . Comparing yourself to a football legend who played one of the most popular sports in the world to yourself who played lacrosse hahaha, now that's sad


The only bigger lost than a person who reads, blogs and responds on a 7th grade lax message board is someone who reads blogs and responds on a 7th grade lax message board who doesn’t even like lacrosse. Must have a lot of time on your hands to read about a 7th grade sport that doesn’t matter to you. We love and are passionate about our game. Sometimes too passionate and super competitive. But at the end of the day at least we spend time doing what we and our kids love. Get out of here with all that detest. Love is Louder!


Amen sista
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s sad that society is just like this guy who posts only negative comments to make himself feel better. If you don’t like the game of lacrosse so be it, but no reason to bash the sport and it’s participants (parent and players) because they are passionate about the game. Whether it’s growing or not. If you did your homework then you would know that the sport has steadily grown the last 30 years.


What's sad is a lacrosse director walking around saying he won 7 rings like tom Brady did hahaha...now that is sad . Comparing yourself to a football legend who played one of the most popular sports in the world to yourself who played lacrosse hahaha, now that's sad


The only bigger lost than a person who reads, blogs and responds on a 7th grade lax message board is someone who reads blogs and responds on a 7th grade lax message board who doesn’t even like lacrosse. Must have a lot of time on your hands to read about a 7th grade sport that doesn’t matter to you. We love and are passionate about our game. Sometimes too passionate and super competitive. But at the end of the day at least we spend time doing what we and our kids love. Get out of here with all that detest. Love is Louder!


Amen sista


Sounds like the lacrosse coaches need a safe space
Love it!!!
It's amazing how the coaches/directors can talk up their love for the game when they're costing families much per kid to play that same game . They also love to boast about how great they are etc.....but can't take any adverse opinions or criticism when someone tells it like it is .
Why the change of schedule FAVORING Legacy? Anyone know what happened?
Legacy? Check out Machine’s (#1) schedule.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why the change of schedule FAVORING Legacy? Anyone know what happened?


Playing eclipse and team mass is not what I would consider an easy schedule . S2S being changed however is a different story . They went from playing some good teams to a cupcake schedule today . Weird .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why the change of schedule FAVORING Legacy? Anyone know what happened?


Playing eclipse and team mass is not what I would consider an easy schedule . S2S being changed however is a different story . They went from playing some good teams to a cupcake schedule today . Weird .

Post a link to the schedule
Team Mass has too many age ineligible players I believe
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Team Mass has too many age ineligible players I believe


Incorrect...team mass is mash up of kids from laxachussetts and another team that are age eligible
We Shall see
Team Mass is made up of Laxachusetts, 4leaf and other area clubs - they'll be good im sure. Eclipse is a top 3/4 team at this qualifier overall. Legacy is going to have a tough road - good luck to'em.

Machine and S2S are playing 3 of the worst clubs in there. That's funny.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team Mass is made up of Laxachusetts, 4leaf and other area clubs - they'll be good im sure. Eclipse is a top 3/4 team at this qualifier overall. Legacy is going to have a tough road - good luck to'em.

Machine and S2S are playing 3 of the worst clubs in there. That's funny.

Like it or not Machine deserves the number 1 spot. S2S is a well known schedule complainer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team Mass is made up of Laxachusetts, 4leaf and other area clubs - they'll be good im sure. Eclipse is a top 3/4 team at this qualifier overall. Legacy is going to have a tough road - good luck to'em.

Machine and S2S are playing 3 of the worst clubs in there. That's funny.

Like it or not Machine deserves the number 1 spot. S2S is a well known schedule complainer.

Machine is not untouchable. S2S and Machine can run and hide on Saturday but Sunday is the day of reckoning. We will see then.
And Machine obviously controls the World Series scheduling moving teams around so they can cruise through to Sunday and changing times of there games from 8:30 in the morning to playing all 3 in the afternoon where as other teams have 3 and 4 hour waits between games and people no reason to even try and stick up for your boy he’s been doing this stuff for years who’s better then him
Machine is # 1 and if loses will be huge disappointment. The problem like the USA is politics behind closed doors. Legacy is about to crash, and pulling all strings to just make playoffs. Where afraid to play Rebels and had divisions changed. Just ask director(TZ) , it’s a fact/Jack. Snake Snake Snake. Out of all directors on island he’s the bottom rung. Feel bad for other two who are good guys. He’s not going to be able to manipulate in the future. Because legacy has no future
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And Machine obviously controls the World Series scheduling moving teams around so they can cruise through to Sunday and changing times of there games from 8:30 in the morning to playing all 3 in the afternoon where as other teams have 3 and 4 hour waits between games and people no reason to even try and stick up for your boy he’s been doing this stuff for years who’s better then him


As expected and already discussed on this board for weeks " welcome to the team 91 world series "...everyone knew they would work the schedule to their favor ..what a joke . Not sure why other teams would put up with this garbage , they should pull out of the biased tournament
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team Mass is made up of Laxachusetts, 4leaf and other area clubs - they'll be good im sure. Eclipse is a top 3/4 team at this qualifier overall. Legacy is going to have a tough road - good luck to'em.

Machine and S2S are playing 3 of the worst clubs in there. That's funny.

Like it or not Machine deserves the number 1 spot. S2S is a well known schedule complainer.

The Machine is a terrible team. Way overrated. Like it or not.
This bs will officially kill WS event. They said would be different and fair. It’s not.
You’re right, such BS. US Club Lacrosse is a joke. They have Machine and Express ranked in the top 10 in the country and give them both a cakewalk. The coaches have no balls and should be embarrassed. Machine and Express hiding from each other again, some things never change. Looks like Club Lacrosse has a couple of new donors/sponsors to keep their BS rank site up and running. Machine vs Calvary LC? Shore 2 Shore vs Calvary LC? JOKE. Calvary LOSS to Machine a few weeks ago, 18-0. World Series of BS Lacrosse.
Here’s the link for US Club Lacrosse to contact, https://www.USCL.com/contact-us It’s safe to say this will be the last year of this Series.
He gets away with it because everybody is afraid of him how do they let him throw 2027 S2S out of the NLF tournaments because this is the world you live in nobody has a pair anymore he’s the all powerful oz and he was a fake but everyone was afraid of him too
When someone says we'll see they obviously have no idea what they are talking about.
Who are you talking about?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When someone says we'll see they obviously have no idea what they are talking about.

We’ll see.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You’re right, such BS. US Club Lacrosse is a joke. They have Machine and Express ranked in the top 10 in the country and give them both a cakewalk. The coaches have no balls and should be embarrassed. Machine and Express hiding from each other again, some things never change. Looks like Club Lacrosse has a couple of new donors/sponsors to keep their BS rank site up and running. Machine vs Calvary LC? Shore 2 Shore vs Calvary LC? JOKE. Calvary LOSS to Machine a few weeks ago, 18-0. World Series of BS Lacrosse.


You're a brainless fool. Show me a sport where come playoff time the top ranked teams don't play the weaker teams in the fist round . In professional sports the top teams get byes and then there is seeding. #1 plays #8 etc.....so do yourself a favor and get a clue . You're juty upset because your son is not on a top team . If he was you wouldn't be crying . Unfortunately for you , rankings do matter for sports . If a team is good enough they don't cry they go and play and make it to the next round where nobody can hide and the bad teams are on their way home already . So relax and learn how sports work .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He gets away with it because everybody is afraid of him how do they let him throw 2027 S2S out of the NLF tournaments because this is the world you live in nobody has a pair anymore he’s the all powerful oz and he was a fake but everyone was afraid of him too


Agreed ....I guess when you have no skill you hack your way through your playing days and that could lead to a little intimidation lol but the car is out of the bag and that fool shouldnt be allowed to mess around with brackets and tell clubs who can go to which event or not . Sad .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He gets away with it because everybody is afraid of him how do they let him throw 2027 S2S out of the NLF tournaments because this is the world you live in nobody has a pair anymore he’s the all powerful oz and he was a fake but everyone was afraid of him too


It's all good though ....nine of his peers that played in that same time period respect him as a player . That's all that matters .
The time has come. Since perennial college lax powers haven't been able to do it and fill stadiums, these 7th graders , their parents and travel clubs will certainly take the sport to the next level with the WSYL!!! And make lacrosse relevant!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The time has come. Since perennial college lax powers haven't been able to do it and fill stadiums, these 7th graders , their parents and travel clubs will certainly take the sport to the next level with the WSYL!!! And make lacrosse relevant!!



Hahaha, that's funny
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He gets away with it because everybody is afraid of him how do they let him throw 2027 S2S out of the NLF tournaments because this is the world you live in nobody has a pair anymore he’s the all powerful oz and he was a fake but everyone was afraid of him too


It's all good though ....nine of his peers that played in that same time period respect him as a player . That's all that matters .

That was supposed to say " none " not nine. No one that played with that fool respects him as a player . Most penalized player in mll by a wide margin . Not exactly something to be proud of
Our club is pulling out Monday. The stuff that’s happening is BS. World Series RIP. Maybe next year someone else runs it and does a lottery for match ups.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Our club is pulling out Monday. The stuff that’s happening is BS. World Series RIP. Maybe next year someone else runs it and does a lottery for match ups.

Ok. Ill take the bait. Which team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Our club is pulling out Monday. The stuff that’s happening is BS. World Series RIP. Maybe next year someone else runs it and does a lottery for match ups.


Does your club have a name ? Just curious . Everyone will know regardless as the brackets have been up for a week. Good decision on your and your clubs part .
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Our club is pulling out Monday. The stuff that’s happening is BS. World Series RIP. Maybe next year someone else runs it and does a lottery for match ups.



BS is what happens when BS is running the brackets lololol
Must be nice to control the brackets . Welcome to the team 91 world series . Machine gets to sleep in and take.it easy with 3 afternoon games and no 3 hour gaps in between games . Wow
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Must be nice to control the brackets . Welcome to the team 91 world series . Machine gets to sleep in and take.it easy with 3 afternoon games and no 3 hour gaps in between games . Wow

Yes. Owner of US Club lax is also a director of Team 91 New Jersey. This is absolutely a 91 run event.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Must be nice to control the brackets . Welcome to the team 91 world series . Machine gets to sleep in and take.it easy with 3 afternoon games and no 3 hour gaps in between games . Wow

Yes. Owner of US Club lax is also a director of Team 91 New Jersey. This is absolutely a 91 run event.


Well that's not a biased tournament lol
Not sure why anyone would sign up for a sham works series run by a club that's playing in it . Remove your teams from this joke of a tournament. They managed to make it horrible
You are correct, Denis Noonan is a Team 91 NJ director and the owner of US Club Lacrosse. Unbelievable.
LOL, wait until you see Machine’s schedule at the World Series, that should be a tough line up.
This is only a warmup for Spalina watch the magic he pulls off in July.
he must have a friend or 2 at Shore 2 Shore as well considering how their schedule was changed to be just as easy as Machine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Our club is pulling out Monday. The stuff that’s happening is BS. World Series RIP. Maybe next year someone else runs it and does a lottery for match ups.


Does your club have a name ? Just curious . Everyone will know regardless as the brackets have been up for a week. Good decision on your and your clubs part .

Where are the schedules posted?
Tourney Machine
BOTC,
Why are you omitting certain posts? It’s all public knowledge, keep it real.
Because it was anti-91 most likely
I'm not sure why anyone is surprised about team 92 controlling the brackets. They are a trash organization always have been and always will be . They do it all the time with their " my lacrosse tournaments" and are doing it now with the works series . Complete trash
92 going down, enjoy your success. The public has figured out your gig. Play top kids, never develop. Throw big names around, and never deliver. Express and Rebels are by far top programs. Will say that DS and JS are decent people and good guys. JS also has whitest teeth of any director. But overweight ex goalie and the rest are just obnoxious out of touch ducks. They eat 2 hero’s at a time. That’s impressive
I don't think the brackets are fair but what's worse is Team 91 gets to sleep in and have all their games inside a bubble. The rankings in us club lax are a joke and not based on real stats. I hope they enjoy a good brunch before the games. 🤣
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Team Mass has too many age ineligible players I believe


Incorrect...team mass is mash up of kids from laxachussetts and another team that are age eligible

I thought they weren’t allowing mash up teams I thought you had to be on your club for x amount of time and had played a couple of tournaments together?
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Must be nice to control the brackets . Welcome to the team 91 world series . Machine gets to sleep in and take.it easy with 3 afternoon games and no 3 hour gaps in between games . Wow
Does it really matter? If your team is good and has good coaching it's motivation. If not it's excuses for why we lost or why we didn't play etc. The best teams will be in the top 8. regardless of where they start or what time. Afternoon games stink. Too much nervous energy expended waiting to play. How about this. Shut up and enjoy the time with your son and the other parents. Make it a positive experience and tell the kids to go play. Stop complaining and making problems. The sun comes up and the sun goes down. Games are played in between!
Curious to see the team that pulled out of the tournament.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Must be nice to control the brackets . Welcome to the team 91 world series . Machine gets to sleep in and take.it easy with 3 afternoon games and no 3 hour gaps in between games . Wow
Does it really matter? If your team is good and has good coaching it's motivation. If not it's excuses for why we lost or why we didn't play etc. The best teams will be in the top 8. regardless of where they start or what time. Afternoon games stink. Too much nervous energy expended waiting to play. How about this. Shut up and enjoy the time with your son and the other parents. Make it a positive experience and tell the kids to go play. Stop complaining and making problems. The sun comes up and the sun goes down. Games are played in between!

Thanks 91 Dad! Of course it matters if you get to sleep in and only have to be at the field for 4 hours but some other teams have to be there 8 hours. Legacy has 7:35min between their first game at 8:30am and last at 4:05pm. There are 18 teams so 9 games can happen at a given time but they are only using 3 fields?
I thought us club lax rankings algorithm was the same as the ncaa
Team 91 and their politics is ruining this sport.
If Machine coaches were such tough guys back in the day, maybe they should teach some toughness to their players and not look for the easy road brackets all the time.
In every sport, the playoff system always pairs top seeds with lower seeds. Why are so many people upset about Machine playing lower level teams? That's how playoffs work.
Would it be fair for the top teams to be beating the heck out of each other, to allow weaker teams to sneak through? Of course not.
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In every sport, the playoff system always pairs top seeds with lower seeds. Why are so many people upset about Machine playing lower level teams? That's how playoffs work.
Would it be fair for the top teams to be beating the heck out of each other, to allow weaker teams to sneak through? Of course not.

Stop making sense! There is absolutely no room for that on BOC.
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Curious to see the team that pulled out of the tournament.

You'll be waiting a long time.
They have early reservations at Tanning parlor, so asked for later games saturday.
92
Hey Mr sun comes sun goes down. guess you’ll be in the bubble with ponytail boy beating up town teams. while the rest of us play in 1/2 inch of rain and 40 mile an hour wind gust.
World Series of Youth Lacrosse out with a interesting statement on instagram
Re: Team mass... it isn't really a mash-up team. They formed the team a year ago specifically to participate in the WSYL and have been practicing together since then, and they played together in several tournaments. It just so happens that a bunch of their kids also play for laxachusetts. It's like Team PA from last year - most of their kids play for other clubs too.
Good post - I agree with this. Lets all take deep breath and enjoy our kids playing a wonderful game. Leave the drama alone! Good luck to eveyone competing this weekend
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World Series of Youth Lacrosse out with a interesting statement on instagram


Very interesting. That is the original world series owner . Basically saying that they know what a disaster it has now become and that is has no affiliation with the current world series and anyone running it . Amazing .
Wonder if the brainless fools running the world series will postpone it or let them play through the monsoon that's coming this weekend . I'm guessing they will let them play since everything they have done has been a disaster so far
Yeah no more involvement. That’s why the past owners are suing the new owners for trademark infringement. Regardless of their post on Instagram, they showed their true colors when filing that suit.
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Wonder if the brainless fools running the world series will postpone it or let them play through the monsoon that's coming this weekend . I'm guessing they will let them play since everything they have done has been a disaster so far


stunands for playing lax in the winter outdoors.
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Yeah no more involvement. That’s why the past owners are suing the new owners for trademark infringement. Regardless of their post on Instagram, they showed their true colors when filing that suit.


It's called business , thats what happens when former lacrosse players try to be smart . They find out really quickly how the real world works .
Who keeps talking Rebels- they are going 0-3. 91 - 2 teams, Express, ShoretoShore, Legacy and Igloo all have better teams. Rebels have never beaten ANYONE- so stop talking about them already.
Nope -- Team Mass is Laxachusetts and a few 3D kids
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Yeah no more involvement. That’s why the past owners are suing the new owners for trademark infringement. Regardless of their post on Instagram, they showed their true colors when filing that suit.
Not the same, it's a totally different event. The current ownership group is trying to capitalize on the previous events name.
Not sure why they decided to have the North Region play first, and the West Region (which plays in AZ) play in late April. Should have started in the South (GA) and West (AZ), and ended up with the North playing in April. Weird decision.
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Not sure why they decided to have the North Region play first, and the West Region (which plays in AZ) play in late April. Should have started in the South (GA) and West (AZ), and ended up with the North playing in April. Weird decision.


Very simple ....the people running it are not very bright .
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Not sure why they decided to have the North Region play first, and the West Region (which plays in AZ) play in late April. Should have started in the South (GA) and West (AZ), and ended up with the North playing in April. Weird decision.


As soon as people found out that us club lax was now running it they knew it would me made worse . And it has fat exceeded that expectation. It's being run horrible with brainless fools running it . Our kids could run it better
no on pulled out. Person who said that's team probably wasn't even involved.
Field 1 will be live streamed. I will give you one guess who is scheduled to have all of their Saturday cupcake games on field 1. This tournament is officially a joke. Enjoy it this year because their won’t be another year. You killed it 91.
Maybe i am a bit late but the Machine game schedule?? Ridiculous. Wimps
I understand... Machine is the #1 seed - they should have the easiest schedule. But getting the #16, #17, and #18 seeds? What a bunch of clowns
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I understand... Machine is the #1 seed - they should have the easiest schedule. But getting the #16, #17, and #18 seeds? What a bunch of clowns


And don't forget ,they're the only team being streamed . Oh no , this new format isn't biased . Not at all . Who would say such a crazy thing. This is just another "my lollipop tournament" . Nothing more .
It's also ridiculous that Machine will have all their games live-streamed. It's clearly NOT a neutral tournament. What a disappointment.
They didn’t even make the playoff round at NLF last year because they got paired in a bracket with a good team from Colorado who they didn’t think could beat them.
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They didn’t even make the playoff round at NLF last year because they got paired in a bracket with a good team from Colorado who they didn’t think could beat them.

no age restriction at NLF
That team from Colorado is slated to play in the Western qualifier so I guess they have plenty of kids that are age eligible.
so to sum it up:

91 Machine gets favorable time slots.
plays the 2 worst teams in the tournament.
plays all 3 games in a covered dome out of the monsoon like weather.
all their games will live streamed.

yeah, that's fair. Can't imagine anyone seeing the favoritism there.
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so to sum it up:

91 Machine gets favorable time slots.
plays the 2 worst teams in the tournament.
plays all 3 games in a covered dome out of the monsoon like weather.
all their games will live streamed.

yeah, that's fair. Can't imagine anyone seeing the favoritism there.

Just a thought - maybe some requested not to play certain teams.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
They didn’t even make the playoff round at NLF last year because they got paired in a bracket with a good team from Colorado who they didn’t think could beat them.

no age restriction at NLF


And ....cue the music (violin) please ....one holdback on the team from Colorado and all they talked about was " holdbacks, holdbacks ". Wait , you call yourself an " elite team" and have said that you " play up" but then cry after you get beat by a team with one holdback on it . Yeah that makes sense . Only the brainless at 91 could brag that they play up then complain about one holdback . Amazing . It's called a " reality check" when you cant beat a team . Stop with the lame excuses
Okay 91 ruined WS. Maybe look at the past fools that ran the tourney the last seven years and decided they were making enough profit so they pulled the plug screwing the kids. Regardless who is running the event now, at least there’s an event. But mindless stunands like this guy’s post is mostly negative propaganda about lacrosse in general. Must be watching too much CNN or FOX news within the coverage of the current debacle in Europe!
Funny how this forum won't post something about the Machine team/coaches when it factually shows them in a bad light.
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Okay 91 ruined WS. Maybe look at the past fools that ran the tourney the last seven years and decided they were making enough profit so they pulled the plug screwing the kids. Regardless who is running the event now, at least there’s an event. But mindless stunands like this guy’s post is mostly negative propaganda about lacrosse in general. Must be watching too much CNN or FOX news within the coverage of the current debacle in Europe!


Nah....you're just doing a great job all by yourself ruining the sport for the kids . And it does matter who is running the event . It was known as a great, organized , unforgettable experience for the kids that have gone in the past. Now it's just a money grab tournament that is poorly run and will never be the same experience as kids had in the past. There have been kids that have literally dropped off of the world series team willingly as it has become a bad joke
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Okay 91 ruined WS. Maybe look at the past fools that ran the tourney the last seven years and decided they were making enough profit so they pulled the plug screwing the kids. Regardless who is running the event now, at least there’s an event. But mindless stunands like this guy’s post is mostly negative propaganda about lacrosse in general. Must be watching too much CNN or FOX news within the coverage of the current debacle in Europe!


Right ....so now 91 is a hero ? Lol you guys are too much . You talk about screwing the kids? World series used to be an unbiased enjoyable event . Let's see what 91 did ....expanded the rosters to 30 so they can take in more money but less kids play , moved it to jersey from Delaware squeezing 18 teams on 4 fields and about to play in monsoon....and is live streaming their own team ...hahaha ...yes 91 you are a true hero
Will the moderator post all opinions or is this Russia ?
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Okay 91 ruined WS. Maybe look at the past fools that ran the tourney the last seven years and decided they were making enough profit so they pulled the plug screwing the kids. Regardless who is running the event now, at least there’s an event. But mindless stunands like this guy’s post is mostly negative propaganda about lacrosse in general. Must be watching too much CNN or FOX news within the coverage of the current debacle in Europe!

If the past event was profitable they never would have gotten rid of it. I guarantee is was bleeding money and a Long Island team winning every year was bad for business. The event had plenty of flaws but at least it wasn’t run by anyone that owned one of the teams competing in it. This event will eventually lose the teams not located in the hotbeds. Then it just becomes another east coast tournament.
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That team from Colorado is slated to play in the Western qualifier so I guess they have plenty of kids that are age eligible.

Just because they are competing doesn’t mean it’s the same team. A perfect example is 2026 Annapolis hawks. They dominated the age group at most tourneys. Then when they had to be age eligible for World Series they didn’t even sniff the finals.
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Okay 91 ruined WS. Maybe look at the past fools that ran the tourney the last seven years and decided they were making enough profit so they pulled the plug screwing the kids. Regardless who is running the event now, at least there’s an event. But mindless stunands like this guy’s post is mostly negative propaganda about lacrosse in general. Must be watching too much CNN or FOX news within the coverage of the current debacle in Europe!

It’s not the same event though, this is a My Lacrosse Tournament.
Where are the games being streamed?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
That team from Colorado is slated to play in the Western qualifier so I guess they have plenty of kids that are age eligible.

Just because they are competing doesn’t mean it’s the same team. A perfect example is 2026 Annapolis hawks. They dominated the age group at most tourneys. Then when they had to be age eligible for World Series they didn’t even sniff the finals.

It’s the same team. They just put a video out of one of their WSYL practice. Same guys that torched Machine 10-3 at NLF. Actually, they picked up some TommyKnocker kids in the off season so they have gotten better.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That team from Colorado is slated to play in the Western qualifier so I guess they have plenty of kids that are age eligible.

Just because they are competing doesn’t mean it’s the same team. A perfect example is 2026 Annapolis hawks. They dominated the age group at most tourneys. Then when they had to be age eligible for World Series they didn’t even sniff the finals.

It’s the same team. They just put a video out of one of their WSYL practice. Same guys that torched Machine 10-3 at NLF. Actually, they picked up some TommyKnocker kids in the off season so they have gotten better.

no need to explain, we all know the 91 motto "if we cant beat them , cry about holdbacks". sad, pathetic, cry baby organization
Agreed no organization with skin in the game should be running this type of tourney. Need the guise of objectivity or at least the appearance of, so naysayers can be muted!
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Field 1 will be live streamed. I will give you one guess who is scheduled to have all of their Saturday cupcake games on field 1. This tournament is officially a joke. Enjoy it this year because their won’t be another year. You killed it 91.

Where can you find stream link?
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Agreed no organization with skin in the game should be running this type of tourney. Need the guise of objectivity or at least the appearance of, so naysayers can be muted!

It’s very simple, if you don’t like a certain organization beat them on the field.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed no organization with skin in the game should be running this type of tourney. Need the guise of objectivity or at least the appearance of, so naysayers can be muted!

It’s very simple, if you don’t like a certain organization beat them on the field.

Oh don't worry. We all know the fix is in and you will play cupcake teams until the championship game. But this is when your excuses will run out.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
That team from Colorado is slated to play in the Western qualifier so I guess they have plenty of kids that are age eligible.

Just because they are competing doesn’t mean it’s the same team. A perfect example is 2026 Annapolis hawks. They dominated the age group at most tourneys. Then when they had to be age eligible for World Series they didn’t even sniff the finals.

They won the East qualifier and their bracket before losing in the quarters in OT to an all star team from the DMV, but keep being you.
We will beat them, while you beat yourself.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
That team from Colorado is slated to play in the Western qualifier so I guess they have plenty of kids that are age eligible.

Just because they are competing doesn’t mean it’s the same team. A perfect example is 2026 Annapolis hawks. They dominated the age group at most tourneys. Then when they had to be age eligible for World Series they didn’t even sniff the finals.

They won the East qualifier and their bracket before losing in the quarters in OT to an all star team from the DMV, but keep being you.

I was complementing how good the team was. Winning the east qualifier means nothing. Losing in the qaurterfinals is not good for a team who had dominated the age group. When they were on age they weren’t the same team. Doesn’t even bother me Maryland kids are older. Can’t be disputed that on age tournaments Long Island wins. That’s why a long island team was won this thing every year
Did the Rebels send United or the Red Raiders to Jersey today?
3 goals in 3 games.
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3 goals in 3 games.

oof
Igloo didn’t do much better
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
That team from Colorado is slated to play in the Western qualifier so I guess they have plenty of kids that are age eligible.

Just because they are competing doesn’t mean it’s the same team. A perfect example is 2026 Annapolis hawks. They dominated the age group at most tourneys. Then when they had to be age eligible for World Series they didn’t even sniff the finals.

They won the East qualifier and their bracket before losing in the quarters in OT to an all star team from the DMV, but keep being you.

I was complementing how good the team was. Winning the east qualifier means nothing. Losing in the qaurterfinals is not good for a team who had dominated the age group. When they were on age they weren’t the same team. Doesn’t even bother me Maryland kids are older. Can’t be disputed that on age tournaments Long Island wins. That’s why a long island team was won this thing every year

The results say yes. Also the top teams from other regions don’t bother building a team for one tourney. Some have in the past. Crabs went to the first one and got smacked on TV and haven’t been back. Sweet revenge for Crush after losing to the Crabs in Ocean City a month prior. The Crabs teams were obviously different. Look at Legacy they win the 2021 age group with an age built team and the Igloo parents went nuts. My point is…in a system that is grade based to have one carve seems like why?. The NLF summer championship is way more prestigious of a title.
Tough day for legacy and rebels
We are happy. We practice 4 times per week this winter. We have 8 full time staff. How many times did you practice this winter? We provide a greater value vs other clubs. You will be surprised this spring.
We will start hearing how this World Series is fake from the losing teams now
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We are happy. We practice 4 times per week this winter. We have 8 full time staff. How many times did you practice this winter? We provide a greater value vs other clubs. You will be surprised this spring.

Haha this is great
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We will start hearing how this World Series is fake from the losing teams now

I guess you haven’t been reading this for a while.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are happy. We practice 4 times per week this winter. We have 8 full time staff. How many times did you practice this winter? We provide a greater value vs other clubs. You will be surprised this spring.

Who cares about your full time staff?? Great your supporting them. Do u think other clubs don’t have staff??
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are happy. We practice 4 times per week this winter. We have 8 full time staff. How many times did you practice this winter? We provide a greater value vs other clubs. You will be surprised this spring.

Who cares about your full time staff?? Great your supporting them. Do u think other clubs don’t have staff??

You missed the sarcasm.
Same talking points in every age group here for Rebels and in the Maryland forum with Predators. Well we atleast know what 1/8 full time employs jobs is, BOTC rebels promoter. Rebels are expanding to Maryland, might they be buying the Predators 😂
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Tough day for legacy and rebels


Rebels, 3 year old program . Though a lot of banter here on botc expectations are lower and not rammed down the parents throats . Legacy on the other hand ,?WSYL is like the 24/7 talking point and duscussed very early... utter disappointment for -0-3 and essentially all tournaments underachieving. They hang all their rep on 1 year...Taz . Embarrassing.
No dog in this fight, but Legacy did lose 2 games by 1 goal, Rebels .. 28 goals against, 3 goals for. Yes they both went 0-3 but only 1 was competitive
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No dog in this fight, but Legacy did lose 2 games by 1 goal, Rebels .. 28 goals against, 3 goals for. Yes they both went 0-3 but only 1 was competitive

0-3 is 0-3. You draw that parallel in other sports? .
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No dog in this fight, but Legacy did lose 2 games by 1 goal, Rebels .. 28 goals against, 3 goals for. Yes they both went 0-3 but only 1 was competitive

I think it’s more difficult for teams to keep pace. Rush and Legacy my guess is they expand their 2025 experiment and put resources and players together across the board after the summer. 2025 was a success for them, two decent teams. Long Island is in need of further club compaction. These smaller clubs don’t seem to be sustainable. And as for the Rebels, they appear to run the business correctly. They just need to produce competitive A teams or risk the best talent leaving.
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Same talking points in every age group here for Rebels and in the Maryland forum with Predators. Well we atleast know what 1/8 full time employs jobs is, BOTC rebels promoter. Rebels are expanding to Maryland, might they be buying the Predators 😂
Wow, that would be interesting. Predators are very poorly run but Rebels are well run. Both teams are 4-5th choice in their market for the good players. Prebels National Team coming soon. Shiny helmet sh!tt e lax.
As expected, awful experience. Squeezing 18 teams on 3 fields . Monsoon like weather . Kids leaving the field shivering and sticks all Iced up . Congratulations team 91 , you really outside yourself this time. Low iq people running the show . Horrible .
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
No dog in this fight, but Legacy did lose 2 games by 1 goal, Rebels .. 28 goals against, 3 goals for. Yes they both went 0-3 but only 1 was competitive

I think it’s more difficult for teams to keep pace. Rush and Legacy my guess is they expand their 2025 experiment and put resources and players together across the board after the summer. 2025 was a success for them, two decent teams. Long Island is in need of further club compaction. These smaller clubs don’t seem to be sustainable. And as for the Rebels, they appear to run the business correctly. They just need to produce competitive A teams or risk the best talent leaving.


Fair enough. They did play each other last fall and it was a 1 goal differential
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As expected, awful experience. Squeezing 18 teams on 3 fields . Monsoon like weather . Kids leaving the field shivering and sticks all Iced up . Congratulations team 91 , you really outside yourself this time. Low iq people running the show . Horrible .

Agreed. Still winter. Pathetic tournament operations
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As expected, awful experience. Squeezing 18 teams on 3 fields . Monsoon like weather . Kids leaving the field shivering and sticks all Iced up . Congratulations team 91 , you really outside yourself this time. Low iq people running the show . Horrible .

Can’t tell if this is a rebel, igloo or legacy parent
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As expected, awful experience. Squeezing 18 teams on 3 fields . Monsoon like weather . Kids leaving the field shivering and sticks all Iced up . Congratulations team 91 , you really outside yourself this time. Low iq people running the show . Horrible .

Agreed. Yesterday was miserable. Good job 91
LI Express knocked off Machine 9-5 at the qualifier. Interesting...
Express over 91
91 Machine lost to Express, can’t wait to hear the excuses.
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91 Machine lost to Express, can’t wait to hear the excuses.

They will be abundant
WOW......the 91 machine is broken . Let's hear the excuses . And guess what , 91 being the trashy organization it is will now make sure that express has the most difficult bracket making the road very difficult to get to the finals in the world series . By now we know they are running the world series , will be very interesting to see the world series brackets when they come out later . At least we all know who will be pulling the strings .
Low IQ? You misspelled two words in your comment. Fix that!
Legacy, Rebels, Igloo (beat Prime Time 2x), Prime Time, Predators, Orange Crush ---> very poor showing.

S2S --> arguably the easiest schedule, and lost to LIE

91 Machine --> shocking loss

LIE --> where did they come from? they have not played this well in the past year.
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Express over 91

Bound to happen. Kids start to catch up. The gap always closes as kids get older.
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91 Machine lost to Express, can’t wait to hear the excuses.

I will say 91 played games without adversity, while every other team was challenged at least once in the early rounds. That makes a difference.The 2025 91 and 2026 Express team won last year because they were battle tested in bracket play and gained that valuable experience. This will no doubt serve them well in the summer.
Watch how 91 now messes around with the world series bracket to give express a hard road to the finals . Will be blatantly obvious ,wait and see .
Blaming 91 for the weather. Smh. In other news …wow eclipse takes it all!
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As expected, awful experience. Squeezing 18 teams on 3 fields . Monsoon like weather . Kids leaving the field shivering and sticks all Iced up . Congratulations team 91 , you really outside yourself this time. Low iq people running the show . Horrible .

Can’t tell if this is a rebel, igloo or legacy parent

Definitely one of them
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
We will start hearing how this World Series is fake from the losing teams now

I guess you haven’t been reading this for a while.

All of these tournaments are what you make them to be. You played the best teams in the north. You can’t dispute that. You may not like the results but I doubt a warm day would have changed the results.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tough day for legacy and rebels


Rebels, 3 year old program . Though a lot of banter here on botc expectations are lower and not rammed down the parents throats . Legacy on the other hand ,?WSYL is like the 24/7 talking point and duscussed very early... utter disappointment for -0-3 and essentially all tournaments underachieving. They hang all their rep on 1 year...Taz . Embarrassing.

True story
Where are the 91 parents with the excuses ? You wanted an on age tournament you got it , you wanted to run the brackets you got it , you wanted to start at 12:30 with no 3 hour breaks in between you got it , you wanted to be streamed and got that . So go ahead , let's hear why you lost . Just like when you lost last summer to the Colorado team I'm sure there are plenty of excuses for this one too.
The almighty 91 machine , going into the world series as the #3 seed . What a blow to the egos over there . Wow
Question.....was the express vs 91 machine game streamed ?
Eclipse came out on top definitely a talented squad express upsetting machine that was a surprise but good for them..
You have a lot of faith in the seeding I’m sure Machine will have this thing set up so they walk into championship and the rest of the good teams knock each other off. You don’t win all your games 18-0 because your that good it’s because you don’t play anybody
What did the kids say about the weekend? The weather was brutal but I would bet they all loved the experience, the format where you could lose 1 or even a few and still move on. Yes move it later in the year, yes get refs who understand they need to actually ref, but all the kids I saw and spoke to were having fun and excited to be there (minus the monsoon, hail storm and blizzard)
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What did the kids say about the weekend? The weather was brutal but I would bet they all loved the experience, the format where you could lose 1 or even a few and still move on. Yes move it later in the year, yes get refs who understand they need to actually ref, but all the kids I saw and spoke to were having fun and excited to be there (minus the monsoon, hail storm and blizzard)


That’s interesting, you must have been to a different tournament. Or your son played on machine and waltzed in at 12:30 because there were kids that were playing there while you were in your hotel , and some of them were literally in tears as they couldn’t feel their fingers and some were shivering. Kids also had iced up sticks by the late afternoon games . Couldn’t get the balls out easily. So nice try but it was a colossal disaster run by brainless fools .
Cant wait to see how 91 rigs the brackets for the World Series after todays embarrassment. They have been talking about the World Series for 5 years and didn’t make it to todays final. That will be taken out on the teams they perceive to be a threat when they make the brackets for July. Stay tuned should be very interesting
How did the Rebels do?
All that rebel talk the past yr . What happen to Igloo special team ? Legacy ? Who pays for this garbage product . I pay half the price, my sons team not even in this “World ego Series” for what ? Few kids on my sons team would make those teams alot better but being so greedy from the club not worth it .
And he’s talking about IQ. Imagine this poor guy???
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What did the kids say about the weekend? The weather was brutal but I would bet they all loved the experience, the format where you could lose 1 or even a few and still move on. Yes move it later in the year, yes get refs who understand they need to actually ref, but all the kids I saw and spoke to were having fun and excited to be there (minus the monsoon, hail storm and blizzard)

More Money Grab , ego beating cheat pounders
And it all means absolutely zero . $5 gas tolls hotels meals and 30 degrees no thx .
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You have a lot of faith in the seeding I’m sure Machine will have this thing set up so they walk into championship and the rest of the good teams knock each other off. You don’t win all your games 18-0 because your that good it’s because you don’t play anybody

The point is you want to lose, just win a lot more. The mentality of you can’t lose is what’s wrong with youth sports.
Making fun of 91 for losing one game seems a little over the top.
Express added age eligible ‘26 STUDS, making them a different team. We’ll done by them to circle the wagons.

91 Machine [I feel] is soft bc of them playing b tourneys/ less talented teams - and so they’re susceptible to getting punched in the mouth. Sad but true. They’re super talented but play b tournaments and manipulate things to breeze - and so when they show up to a real scrap - they not ready all the time. Still a great team but dads are making them fragile…

Eclispe is talented at every level - no joke. Congrats to them - battled, took their punches but made a statement at the end of the day.
Not a surprise actually. Express has super talented player(s), legendary coach and don’t get frazzled by the bs “the machine” nonsense we’ve all come to know, expect and loath.

Express is ALL class, I’m surprised they lost to Eclispe.
Lots of whining, but not sure about what. The weather was brutal, but our kids were proud to complete, showed a ton of grit playing through the tough conditions, and did well enough to qualify. It was a bare-bones tournament, but in my opinion, the organizers did a great job making sure that everyone followed the qualifying rules, got the seeding just about perfect, and ran a great format (up to 7 full-length games in 2 days). Our team wanted an opportunity to compete against the best teams in the east, and they got it. No complaints from us. Can't wait for Nationals.
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All that rebel talk the past yr . What happen to Igloo special team ? Legacy ? Who pays for this garbage product . I pay half the price, my sons team not even in this “World ego Series” for what ? Few kids on my sons team would make those teams alot better but being so greedy from the club not worth it .

We have played Legacy for a few years whether an actual tournament or play day scrimmage in CT. during covid. They used to be competitive. Not sure what is wrong with them.
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How did the Rebels do?

It's not good. They definitely need to cut a whole bunch of kids. Otherwise they don’t belong at these tournaments. I felt sorry watching them.
I think the teams that made the World Series were the exact teams that we thought would qualify. Enough with all of the grown men whining. The conditions were less than ideal. We would have prayed for a warmer day. I am not disappointed to see this bracket move on.
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All that rebel talk the past yr . What happen to Igloo special team ? Legacy ? Who pays for this garbage product . I pay half the price, my sons team not even in this “World ego Series” for what ? Few kids on my sons team would make those teams alot better but being so greedy from the club not worth it .

Sorry, you missed it. Whether you advanced or not, most if not all the games were competitive. Weather was brutal but it was fun and the boys will never forget.
The best teams on the northeast were there. Steel cuts steel so if you want your kid to evolve into a good player he has to play with and against the best!!
Maybe try to join one of these clubs next season. Hopeful your kid can play and we will all benefit.
Keep it in perspective. When your kid is looking to get recruited to college the WS means nothing. It would mean more for the kids resume if it was held when they were in 9th or 10th grade.
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All that rebel talk the past yr . What happen to Igloo special team ? Legacy ? Who pays for this garbage product . I pay half the price, my sons team not even in this “World ego Series” for what ? Few kids on my sons team would make those teams alot better but being so greedy from the club not worth it .

We have played Legacy for a few years whether an actual tournament or play day scrimmage in CT. during covid. They used to be competitive. Not sure what is wrong with them.

They were very competitive if you knew what you were talking about before commenting. They lost two games by one goal. The 1 goal “loss” vs Orange Crush was in overtime and Legacy actually scored the winning goal, however, the goal got called back due to someone saying there was a player in the crease. It was a controversial call. Legacy lost to predators 2-1. They lost to the team that won the whole 18 team tournament by one goal. If that’s not competitive I don’t know what is.
Team 91 is going to have a great time coming on this board in July if/when they win the big tournament. Essentially the competition will be the exact same with maybe 1 or 2 good teams from the rest of the country. The only competitive qualifier was the North.
Team PA had a great day at SpringThaw.
Biggest disappointment was The Machine, and tourney for playing in that weather.
Should have been changed, rescheduled. I hear it was not because MY LACROOSE TOURAMENT, is running one this coming weekend.
Talk about who runs this, soft schedule did not prepare them for Playoffs
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All that rebel talk the past yr . What happen to Igloo special team ? Legacy ? Who pays for this garbage product . I pay half the price, my sons team not even in this “World ego Series” for what ? Few kids on my sons team would make those teams alot better but being so greedy from the club not worth it .

We have played Legacy for a few years whether an actual tournament or play day scrimmage in CT. during covid. They used to be competitive. Not sure what is wrong with them.

They were very competitive if you knew what you were talking about before commenting. They lost two games by one goal. The 1 goal “loss” vs Orange Crush was in overtime and Legacy actually scored the winning goal, however, the goal got called back due to someone saying there was a player in the crease. It was a controversial call. Legacy lost to predators 2-1. They lost to the team that won the whole 18 team tournament by one goal. If that’s not competitive I don’t know what is.

Legacy had a tough draw but so did most. It was a competitive tourney.
lost to Eclipse 2-1. They lost in OT to the Orange Crush who was solid. They beat the Predators. Got beat up but a very good Mass team who some feel was the 3rd or 4 best team at the event.
Eclipse was the best team and won it all. They blew out Express big time after express had smashed 91 Machine.
Thanks Team PA dad!!
My opinion… this was an Uber competitive tournament with the best teams from the Northeast.
If you want your kid to compete at a high level, you have to play and practice with the best.
The weather stunk and they probably should’ve rescheduled. But we played and all the teams did their best. It was crazy but we had fun.
But the World Series is overrated and the whole industry is blowing up with greedy folks trying to make money off of us. This is a tough time for kids because Some have hit puberty and others have not. Sometimes it comes down to which team has more kids with mustaches.
In the end this is only a game and this is still a youth sporting event. There will be a tremendous amount of peaks and valleys moving forward. Keep it fun and the kids will enjoy it.
Where is Eclipse from ?
Scorned Parents, BOTC should have a forum and offer therapy, it’s typically 95 % of parents with their 1st child playing. You should know that all coaches talk from other organizations, know your history because they did their homework, they run background checks on you lol. if you were a problem than you are a problem now. The 27 along with the 28 parents have a reputation of being the worst out there. The talent level at both age groups compared to past years is not even close.

Parents spend probably 5-10 times as much as their club tuition that they whine about a month. Some exceptions play on Machine and a few Express S2S.
To put in perspective Machine is no where near a 91 Crush, Smash, Bandits or Wolfpack, not even close. So if you aren’t on Machine and you think your kid is good and they don’t know about you or haven’t approached you, he isn’t.

If you team hop and run your gums to other parents bashing organizations you are a fool and everyone thinks your a fool.
Eclispe is from Fairfield county Connecticut. Darien New Canaan mostly, and surrounding areas.
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Scorned Parents, BOTC should have a forum and offer therapy, it’s typically 95 % of parents with their 1st child playing. You should know that all coaches talk from other organizations, know your history because they did their homework, they run background checks on you lol. if you were a problem than you are a problem now. The 27 along with the 28 parents have a reputation of being the worst out there. The talent level at both age groups compared to past years is not even close.

Parents spend probably 5-10 times as much as their club tuition that they whine about a month. Some exceptions play on Machine and a few Express S2S.
To put in perspective Machine is no where near a 91 Crush, Smash, Bandits or Wolfpack, not even close. So if you aren’t on Machine and you think your kid is good and they don’t know about you or haven’t approached you, he isn’t.

If you team hop and run your gums to other parents bashing organizations you are a fool and everyone thinks your a fool.

Great points, good years 2024, 26, not as good 2023, 25 (except 91MD which is really 23 and 24), 27, 28
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Scorned Parents, BOTC should have a forum and offer therapy, it’s typically 95 % of parents with their 1st child playing. You should know that all coaches talk from other organizations, know your history because they did their homework, they run background checks on you lol. if you were a problem than you are a problem now. The 27 along with the 28 parents have a reputation of being the worst out there. The talent level at both age groups compared to past years is not even close.

Parents spend probably 5-10 times as much as their club tuition that they whine about a month. Some exceptions play on Machine and a few Express S2S.
To put in perspective Machine is no where near a 91 Crush, Smash, Bandits or Wolfpack, not even close. So if you aren’t on Machine and you think your kid is good and they don’t know about you or haven’t approached you, he isn’t.

If you team hop and run your gums to other parents bashing organizations you are a fool and everyone thinks your a fool.

Great points, good years 2024, 26, not as good 2023, 25 (except 91MD which is really 23 and 24), 27, 28

I enjoy reading all opinions but need some clarity on a few things.

What do you mean about parents pay 5-10 times as much as their club tuition? Do you mean in lessons?

Can you really tell all of that now? Many of the 27 kids(at least the legit aged ones) have not hit puberty yet.
Bandits, Smash and Crush at 10 years old would have smoked the majority of these teams
In lessons and yes just watch wsyl last year and watch 25’s and 26’s.
26 express would beat 25 91
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Bandits, Smash and Crush at 10 years old would have smoked the majority of these teams

That’s a bold statement
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Bandits, Smash and Crush at 10 years old would have smoked the majority of these teams

10 yr olds no .Stop just Stop . Fake news . Best team ever 2017 Grad. Yr Turtles.
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Team PA had a great day at SpringThaw.
PA is a pit stop between MD and LI. So
What? They beat Hawks, Madlax and Nationals, report back after they play the Rebels.
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Bandits, Smash and Crush at 10 years old would have smoked the majority of these teams

That’s a bold statement

Smash was average. Until two years ago. They lost to town teams.
Rebels have 25 full time coaches and practice 9 days a week or so I’ve been told - legendary coaches and staff
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Bandits, Smash and Crush at 10 years old would have smoked the majority of these teams

That’s a bold statement

Smash was average. Until two years ago. They lost to town teams.


That's what happens when team 91 gets upset like they did this past weekend, they go to the history books . Sad
91 is going to be a dinosaur soon. Down down down. The only organization I would like to go away. Not good people
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Bandits, Smash and Crush at 10 years old would have smoked the majority of these teams

That’s a bold statement

Smash was average. Until two years ago. They lost to town teams.


That's what happens when team 91 gets upset like they did this past weekend, they go to the history books . Sad


Maybe Machine should bring in some different talent
then Massapequa PAL daddy friends lacrosse kids .
There is alot better talent players in the 2027 Dynamic umbrella teams and they know it .
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All that rebel talk the past yr . What happen to Igloo special team ? Legacy ? Who pays for this garbage product . I pay half the price, my sons team not even in this “World ego Series” for what ? Few kids on my sons team would make those teams alot better but being so greedy from the club not worth it .

We have played Legacy for a few years whether an actual tournament or play day scrimmage in CT. during covid. They used to be competitive. Not sure what is wrong with them.

They were very competitive if you knew what you were talking about before commenting. They lost two games by one goal. The 1 goal “loss” vs Orange Crush was in overtime and Legacy actually scored the winning goal, however, the goal got called back due to someone saying there was a player in the crease. It was a controversial call. Legacy lost to predators 2-1. They lost to the team that won the whole 18 team tournament by one goal. If that’s not competitive I don’t know what is.

Legacy had a tough draw but so did most. It was a competitive tourney.
lost to Eclipse 2-1. They lost in OT to the Orange Crush who was solid. They beat the Predators. Got beat up but a very good Mass team who some feel was the 3rd or 4 best team at the event.
Eclipse was the best team and won it all. They blew out Express big time after express had smashed 91 Machine.

If we were talking about Rebels Turtles Rush justifying competitiveness by losing to tournament champ by 1 i would get it. But legacy has higher expectations. But if talk like that or " we had a 2 goal lead till jesus himself stopped a few shots with 3 minutes to play makes you feel better have at it.
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Bandits, Smash and Crush at 10 years old would have smoked the majority of these teams

That’s a bold statement

Smash was average. Until two years ago. They lost to town teams.


That's what happens when team 91 gets upset like they did this past weekend, they go to the history books . Sad


Maybe Machine should bring in some different talent
then Massapequa PAL daddy friends lacrosse kids .
There is alot better talent players in the 2027 Dynamic umbrella teams and they know it .

As well as there is scattered talent amongst other organizations that parents choose not to be involved with them.
Sad to see grown ppl pile on when a group of 12 year olds lose a game to a very talented team. Enjoy to game boys and maybe look into therapy about your feelings of inadequacy. Or just grow up.
After this seasons ego heads will realize is it really worth 5k plus a yr 1. My team didnt make the World Series 2. My team didnt win the world series . If people didn't smartened up what greedy Clubs did to people durning covid season and didnt budge on refunds Etc…. Then your a Clown 🤡. Have a great day
Did T.Z coach the 2027 legacy team this tournament ?
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Sad to see grown ppl pile on when a group of 12 year olds lose a game to a very talented team. Enjoy to game boys and maybe look into therapy about your feelings of inadequacy. Or just grow up.


I agree with you , however, some context is needed . Team 91 parents/coaches and unfortunately the kids too have big mouths at games . They trash talk all game , it's disgusting . So unfortunately people are all too happy to watch then lose because they're not a civilized group of people and it's been going on for years . Very arrogant , trashy organization.
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In lessons and yes just watch wsyl last year and watch 25’s and 26’s.
26 express would beat 25 91

26 Express parent, here is some advice. Try and beat your own 2025 team first.
And Please
Stay off the Weeeeeeeed!
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Sad to see grown ppl pile on when a group of 12 year olds lose a game to a very talented team. Enjoy to game boys and maybe look into therapy about your feelings of inadequacy. Or just grow up.

<aybe machine parents should stop pounding their chests on here about how great they think they and and they wouldn't get dumped on when they get beat down.
No question Machine is a talented, hardworking and well coached team. Not easy to be top dog and hold that spot for as long as Machine has. Congrats to them on their long run, Respect.

Congrats to Express for shattering the glass ceiling in an undisputed game.

Stage should be set for fair seeding at WSL Championship. It’s now any given Sunday for top teams.
The issue is that every 91 team holds themselves to the standard that Crush set. And there will never be a team like that again. And it’s okay to lose, no big deal.
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Team PA had a great day at SpringThaw.
PA is a pit stop between MD and LI. So
What? They beat Hawks, Madlax and Nationals, report back after they play the Rebels.

I was there. Team PA was very well coached and have 1 outstanding player in which the team revolved around. Nationals struggled to field a full squad and many of their players were playing on their club teams this weekend. They had very little teamwork but that's to be expected based on the model. Hawks and Madlax are still very good local club teams and will win a lot of games against comparable teams.
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The issue is that every 91 team holds themselves to the standard that Crush set. And there will never be a team like that again. And it’s okay to lose, no big deal.

Rebels are going to crush them now. No pun intended.
Legacy doesn’t even qualify!! Wow
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Did T.Z coach the 2027 legacy team this tournament ?

Good question
That's fair (they do stink in a lot of ways) but to go down a level or two from there isnt right or helping ANYONE. Its probably amplified due to the anonymity but come on, we can do better!
Rebels Will blow by 91 The next couple years.
The Bus is Rolling down the Express way Looking for the Seaford Oyster Bay, so they can go Shore to Shore. Watch out or your legacy will get crushed.
Maybe move north into an Igloo

Fast Forward 2024
Express and Rebels by far best programs, rest will just try to survive, or they will be True Blue
Wow, your a poet and don’t know it! Every game will be won and you’ll have fun with 91!
91 Rage played terrible - #9 seed at the end. They "qualified". I bet if they were the 10 seed they still would've "qualified. Gotta keep those 91 parents happy.
In all fairness any team could have to taken that 9th spot and had a chance to do so . Had nothing to do with 91....but that being said the 9th seed is a joke. Shouldn't even be an option. .it's only an option because other regions don't have enough teams
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91 Rage played terrible - #9 seed at the end. They "qualified". I bet if they were the 10 seed they still would've "qualified. Gotta keep those 91 parents happy.


Upset much lol you guys spend to much time on here bashing and what not turn it into something positive for once …
You son, ma’am, sir are the definition of a Bozo
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91 Rage played terrible - #9 seed at the end. They "qualified". I bet if they were the 10 seed they still would've "qualified. Gotta keep those 91 parents happy.


Upset much lol you guys spend to much time on here bashing and what not turn it into something positive for once …


Agreed ...I don't defend 91 as they are a disgusting organization, however why get all hung up on someone making the 9th seed? Seriously . Those kids are probably very happy to have made it . And they did what they had to do to make the 9th seed. Any other team also has the same opportunity. So find something else to bash, you're not making any sense .
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In all fairness any team could have to taken that 9th spot and had a chance to do so . Had nothing to do with 91....but that being said the 9th seed is a joke. Shouldn't even be an option. .it's only an option because other regions don't have enough teams

I agree. The only I issue I had is that if you went 3-0 the first day and got a first round bye you automatically qualified. You should have to win at least one game the next day to qualify. In the end it didn’t make any difference but you shouldn’t receive an automatic bid based on first day. But if the the tourney was run the same way as last year rage would not have qualified
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91 Rage played terrible - #9 seed at the end. They "qualified". I bet if they were the 10 seed they still would've "qualified. Gotta keep those 91 parents happy.


Upset much lol you guys spend to much time on here bashing and what not turn it into something positive for once …


Agreed ...I don't defend 91 as they are a disgusting organization, however why get all hung up on someone making the 9th seed? Seriously . Those kids are probably very happy to have made it . And they did what they had to do to make the 9th seed. Any other team also has the same opportunity. So find something else to bash, you're not making any sense .

My sons team made it easily. 9th seed not needed. My question is I wonder if Rage was the 10th seed would they have qualified 10 teams? I say yes.
Rage should not accept. Sad part is watch draw, they will be given lollipop opponents. Then get beaten bad in playoffs. Lollipop tourney, gives easy schedule. Oh, I forgot 91 runs it. They should feel shane, go to box for 2 minutes. This just keeps bringing them down. They are too arrogant to realize, going to be great when they struggle to field teams. I do look forward to it.
I can’t wait to see USCL Rankings / WS Champions algorithm system after this weekend.
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Rage should not accept. Sad part is watch draw, they will be given lollipop opponents. Then get beaten bad in playoffs. Lollipop tourney, gives easy schedule. Oh, I forgot 91 runs it. They should feel shane, go to box for 2 minutes. This just keeps bringing them down. They are too arrogant to realize, going to be great when they struggle to field teams. I do look forward to it.

They weren’t given Lollipop opponents past weekend. They played their way in fairly. Just be happy for the kids
Did they announce before the North Qualifier how many teams would qualify? I looked at their website but couldn’t find the answer before it started. Do you know how many teams total qualify for World Series?
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Did they announce before the North Qualifier how many teams would qualify? I looked at their website but couldn’t find the answer before it started. Do you know how many teams total qualify for World Series?

Prior to the event starting, the North qualifier clearly stated that the 9th seed would qualify. They would need to win 3 games from the losers bracket to do so. Anyone in attendance saw that the competition was fierce and games were high level. Great lacrosse was played all weekend was played all weekend.
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Rage should not accept. Sad part is watch draw, they will be given lollipop opponents. Then get beaten bad in playoffs. Lollipop tourney, gives easy schedule. Oh, I forgot 91 runs it. They should feel shane, go to box for 2 minutes. This just keeps bringing them down. They are too arrogant to realize, going to be great when they struggle to field teams. I do look forward to it.

They weren’t given Lollipop opponents past weekend. They played their way in fairly. Just be happy for the kids


Stop it with the rage bashing ....they followed the format and won their way to the 9th sees fairly . Does a 9th seed make sense , no it doesn't but it is what it is and I'm sure they're very happy to be able to go . As discussed before on this thread , too many teams go from the north because nobody else plays lacrosse across the country . The participation rate is very low , embarrassingly low especially when you consider how coaches/directors on long island walk around and compare themselves to tom Brady lol. So while we don't agree with 9 teams going , rage did what they had to do to get in . No problem with that
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Did they announce before the North Qualifier how many teams would qualify? I looked at their website but couldn’t find the answer before it started. Do you know how many teams total qualify for World Series?

I’m no 91 fan. But the bracket that was published before the tournament clearly showed a 9th invitation in the bracket. If you want to criticize 9 invitations that’s fair. The conspiracy theory that is was created after the tourney started for rage isn’t true.
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Rage should not accept. Sad part is watch draw, they will be given lollipop opponents. Then get beaten bad in playoffs. Lollipop tourney, gives easy schedule. Oh, I forgot 91 runs it. They should feel shane, go to box for 2 minutes. This just keeps bringing them down. They are too arrogant to realize, going to be great when they struggle to field teams. I do look forward to it.


This is nothing but a pathetic post. I actually feel bad for you!
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Did they announce before the North Qualifier how many teams would qualify? I looked at their website but couldn’t find the answer before it started. Do you know how many teams total qualify for World Series?

No, it was not announced. In previous years it had been 6 from the north bracket. Last year they made it 7 after the bracket had concluded b/c a team in another bracket had to back out.
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Team PA had a great day at SpringThaw.
PA is a pit stop between MD and LI. So
What? They beat Hawks, Madlax and Nationals, report back after they play the Rebels.

I was there. Team PA was very well coached and have 1 outstanding player in which the team revolved around. Nationals struggled to field a full squad and many of their players were playing on their club teams this weekend. They had very little teamwork but that's to be expected based on the model. Hawks and Madlax are still very good local club teams and will win a lot of games against comparable teams.

PA is a “pit stop”? Lol, I guess if we had feelings here in PA they’d be hurt but luckily we don’t. Sounds like these young men played well and beat 3 of the better clubs in MD. I’m not familiar with Team PA as a club but seems like these kids can play a little bit.
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Did they announce before the North Qualifier how many teams would qualify? I looked at their website but couldn’t find the answer before it started. Do you know how many teams total qualify for World Series?

I’m no 91 fan. But the bracket that was published before the tournament clearly showed a 9th invitation in the bracket. If you want to criticize 9 invitations that’s fair. The conspiracy theory that is was created after the tourney started for rage isn’t true.

This is an accurate post. Bracket was clear and set up in advance of the event for all to see.
Competition was fierce and the best teams are from the northeast.
That doesn’t mean that a stacked team from one of the other regions can’t win.
Yeah - I wonder who they (Team PA) are???
Team PA is like last year’s Tigers. An all star team poached the best kid from different clubs. They’ll have big athletic kids
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Did they announce before the North Qualifier how many teams would qualify? I looked at their website but couldn’t find the answer before it started. Do you know how many teams total qualify for World Series?

I’m no 91 fan. But the bracket that was published before the tournament clearly showed a 9th invitation in the bracket. If you want to criticize 9 invitations that’s fair. The conspiracy theory that is was created after the tourney started for rage isn’t true.

This is an accurate post. Bracket was clear and set up in advance of the event for all to see.
Competition was fierce and the best teams are from the northeast.
That doesn’t mean that a stacked team from one of the other regions can’t win.

Question was not intended for any reason other than to ask if you know the total amount of teams that qualify for the World Series and how many for each Region? Congrats to Rage on making it, wasn’t asking for that reason. Do you only find out when they publish on tourney machine one region at a time?
Not a 91 parent. Much respect to Rage, they get the s$iT end of the stick all of the time and did what they had to do to qualify. As a parent from an organization that can’t stand 91 and all of their antics I’m happy for them. They will constantly have to work to keep their team together much like Warriors did.
Rage can probably beat or certainly be competitive with some of the other Long Island AA teams.
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Rage can probably beat or certainly be competitive with some of the other Long Island AA teams.

Have to think they take legacy, igloo and the rebels
Team PA is like last year’s Tigers. An all star team poached the best kid from different clubs. They’ll have big athletic kids
?? Isn't this what all of these teams are?
Enough talk about 91! How about Eclipse? Express? Massachusetts? Kings? I'm betting one of these teams takes it.
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Rage can probably beat or certainly be competitive with some of the other Long Island AA teams.

Have to think they take legacy, igloo and the rebels

I doubt they’d beat Legacy. Legacy lost to the tournament winner Eclipse by 1 goal. Legacy did better against Eclipse than any other team in the tournament. Legacy would smoke Rage.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rage should not accept. Sad part is watch draw, they will be given lollipop opponents. Then get beaten bad in playoffs. Lollipop tourney, gives easy schedule. Oh, I forgot 91 runs it. They should feel shane, go to box for 2 minutes. This just keeps bringing them down. They are too arrogant to realize, going to be great when they struggle to field teams. I do look forward to it.

They weren’t given Lollipop opponents past weekend. They played their way in fairly. Just be happy for the kids


Stop it with the rage bashing ....they followed the format and won their way to the 9th sees fairly . Does a 9th seed make sense , no it doesn't but it is what it is and I'm sure they're very happy to be able to go . As discussed before on this thread , too many teams go from the north because nobody else plays lacrosse across the country . The participation rate is very low , embarrassingly low especially when you consider how coaches/directors on long island walk around and compare themselves to tom Brady lol. So while we don't agree with 9 teams going , rage did what they had to do to get in . No problem with that

Why would any team that knows they can’t compete want to go? This isn’t March madness where a miracle upset can happen. Let’s spend a weekend in the summer to go play games with no chance of winning. Qualifier I get. Go see how you stack up, but question answered. Go hang out on the beach heading into 4th of July
Best thing about eclipse was they are not even ranked and they dont care. Just showed up and smoked everyone!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best thing about eclipse was they are not even ranked and they dont care. Just showed up and smoked everyone!

Says Eclipse. Welcome to crazy town Eclipse!! You had a great day and congrats on locking #1 seed from NE. But don’t be a fool.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rage can probably beat or certainly be competitive with some of the other Long Island AA teams.

Have to think they take legacy, igloo and the rebels

I doubt they’d beat Legacy. Legacy lost to the tournament winner Eclipse by 1 goal. Legacy did better against Eclipse than any other team in the tournament. Legacy would smoke Rage.




😭😭😂😂😂
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rage can probably beat or certainly be competitive with some of the other Long Island AA teams.

Have to think they take legacy, igloo and the rebels

I doubt they’d beat Legacy. Legacy lost to the tournament winner Eclipse by 1 goal. Legacy did better against Eclipse than any other team in the tournament. Legacy would smoke Rage.




😭😭😂😂😂


Enough already with the legacy talk ....you went 0-3 and got bounced out quickly . Shut up already
91 is going down.
Advance and the Texas Mustangs will be contenders as well.
91 is the biggest disappointment by far. Not legacy/Iglioo/Rebels. It’s the so called best team. Not that anymore and never again. Bye bye 91. Maybe that useless, bad 2029 coach JM can help with his holdbacks. Boo hoo 91 watch the door on the way out. You guys are the problem with youth lax. Thanks for the nightmares, see you, see you, would not want to be you.
Here’s a idea. Rage , legacy , Rebels and Igloo have a four way tourney. I would bet anything rage would be under over 1 win. My money on under. Of coarse they would try to bring Machine kids in. Let’s do it. Step up and say we are in. Then will set it. Let’s see who has it , and who does not. RAGE against the MACHiNE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rage can probably beat or certainly be competitive with some of the other Long Island AA teams.

Have to think they take legacy, igloo and the rebels

I doubt they’d beat Legacy. Legacy lost to the tournament winner Eclipse by 1 goal. Legacy did better against Eclipse than any other team in the tournament. Legacy would smoke Rage.




😭😭😂😂😂


Enough already with the legacy talk ....you went 0-3 and got bounced out quickly . Shut up already


That is the MO for that team as you read above in this thread. " we cant win a tournament of any significance but if ww lose by 1 we are good or we had a lead by 2 wirh 2 to go and if it wasn't for divine intervention we would have won.......obviously sarcasm but you get the idea. .
Average team at best.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a idea. Rage , legacy , Rebels and Igloo have a four way tourney. I would bet anything rage would be under over 1 win. My money on under. Of coarse they would try to bring Machine kids in. Let’s do it. Step up and say we are in. Then will set it. Let’s see who has it , and who does not. RAGE against the MACHiNE

Is this the Legacy parent that your kid plays for a new team every other year and 2nd time on Legacy ?
This may be the densest most immature post ever posted on BOTC.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 is the biggest disappointment by far. Not legacy/Iglioo/Rebels. It’s the so called best team. Not that anymore and never again. Bye bye 91. Maybe that useless, bad 2029 coach JM can help with his holdbacks. Boo hoo 91 watch the door on the way out. You guys are the problem with youth lax. Thanks for the nightmares, see you, see you, would not want to be you.



It gets better .... apparently machine players have been sharing a slogan on social media for everyone to see . Some of the kids are friends with kids from other clubs/live in the same town as them . They keep seeing on social media " revenge tour 2022" lol....so apparently the 91 machine coaches called an " emergency meeting " after the world series loss . Instead of trying to understand what went wrong and how to fix it they instead came up with a slogan " revenge tour 2022" in their typical low iq rah rah fashion . Is that supposed to scare other teams ? Lol....news flash..machine has been using intimidation tactics for years , coaches bumping chests while screaming " yeah, yeah, whoa, whoa" and kids talking trash while the goalie mouths off and bangs the pipes with his stick . Guess what ....you're not scaring anyone . Go back to the drawing board and figure out how to play . Your slogans and rah rah sideline don't work anymore . " Revenge tour 2022" hahaha, can't make this stuff up .
Little Jimmy, it’s time to go back to playing Fort Nite. You can play one more game and than it’s time for bed. You are not allowed to go on BOTC any more. This is for adults only
Revenge Tour 2022? I’m sure they’re still seeking revenge for the beat down they received from the Kings. I’m ok with the goalie banging pipes, I did not see their goalie waving at any Express players if a saved was made.
Revenge Tour 2022 part Deux... This time it's serious
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Revenge Tour 2022 part Deux... This time it's serious


Team 91 revenge , rage ,venom,storm.....they seem very very angry . Very scary . I'm sure everyone is afraid now lol
"revenge 2022" team 91 blinged out shirts coming soon to a sideline near you lol
Did CoachC take over the Express team for this grade?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did CoachC take over the Express team for this grade?

Just the WS team
I hope they march in formation in their blinged out shirts, carrying the American flag and blaring music. I hear that helps.
Have seen that kid wave at players after a save. Parenting for the win!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did CoachC take over the Express team for this grade?

Just the WS team

Either him or the regular coaches. The Express clearly has the best coaches at the age group.
Out all the posts, the one thing that isn’t talked about is the most relevant. The two final teams have one thing in common. The best coaching by far. No even close by comparison imho
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Out all the posts, the one thing that isn’t talked about is the most relevant. The two final teams have one thing in common. The best coaching by far. No even close by comparison imho

But do they have a “Revenge 2022” song being recorded and video being made ala the Chicago Bears 1985 “Super Bowl Shuffle” ?
CoachC is coaching the WS team bc Haguen’s kid is too old. Phenomenal coach OBV (!) but lookup Eclispe coaches on the WS IG post -- wow. Those kids could play but it’s no one’s tournament to lose. Machine was on top, but teams have caught up. Nothing against them - they’re still good - the gaps just narrowed. The fact that they’re so unlikable makes it fun for us to bash, but they play the right way. Hard and unselfish.
Rankings were a joke to all except those ranked at the top. Eclipse took care of business and made a statement considering.

It’s fun but imo - usclub lax should refrain if they’re not going to do their homework.
Not wrong
REVENGE TOUR 2022, brought to you by team 91machine.
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Watch out so scary
It’s sith CoachC
Coming to play your best 2026 “C” teams Long Island has to offer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s sith CoachC


What about my little pony with the ponytail lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s sith CoachC


How is my little pony doing with his ponytail
Originally Posted by Anonymous
REVENGE TOUR 2022, brought to you by team 91machine.
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Watch out so scary

Sums it up. Imho it’s disconcerting how youth sports has shifted to its current state.
Wow was that the worst so called tourney ever. Teams dropped out. Big time miss matches. Please everyone DO NOT play in the lollipop tourneys. How bad are they u ask. Well, where were 91 teams? They even know how bad it is. Scary part is they run it. Hash tag 91 done
First time checking in on BOTC this season…Bro’s c’mon! The last 4 pages have been nothing but you guys obsessing over 91 in some way or another. They live rent free in your head. Y’all remind me of the pack of teenage boys that all got dumped by the hottest chick in school so you just sit around talking smack on her.
Newest shoe in town ..." My little pony and the revenge tour 2022"
I'll withhold naming specific organizations( but we know who they are) but i wonder if those parents from li will wake up and avoid bei g sold a bill of goods on WSYL specialized teams, national teams or other false promises just to generate more revenue and allow parents to pound their chest watching their overhyped teams play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First time checking in on BOTC this season…Bro’s c’mon! The last 4 pages have been nothing but you guys obsessing over 91 in some way or another. They live rent free in your head. Y’all remind me of the pack of teenage boys that all got dumped by the hottest chick in school so you just sit around talking smack on her.

Dumped? So glad we refused years ago because if i saw my son pulling a cart with a boom box before a game it would have ended first time. Joke regardless of being a good or bad team .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First time checking in on BOTC this season…Bro’s c’mon! The last 4 pages have been nothing but you guys obsessing over 91 in some way or another. They live rent free in your head. Y’all remind me of the pack of teenage boys that all got dumped by the hottest chick in school so you just sit around talking smack on her.

Cmon bro. First time you checked it in months ? Yeah riiiiiiight.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First time checking in on BOTC this season…Bro’s c’mon! The last 4 pages have been nothing but you guys obsessing over 91 in some way or another. They live rent free in your head. Y’all remind me of the pack of teenage boys that all got dumped by the hottest chick in school so you just sit around talking smack on her.


Realest thing I’ve read
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First time checking in on BOTC this season…Bro’s c’mon! The last 4 pages have been nothing but you guys obsessing over 91 in some way or another. They live rent free in your head. Y’all remind me of the pack of teenage boys that all got dumped by the hottest chick in school so you just sit around talking smack on her.

You keep hitting the refresh button sissyboy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First time checking in on BOTC this season…Bro’s c’mon! The last 4 pages have been nothing but you guys obsessing over 91 in some way or another. They live rent free in your head. Y’all remind me of the pack of teenage boys that all got dumped by the hottest chick in school so you just sit around talking smack on her.


Realest thing I’ve read


Stay tuned for the " my little pony and his revenge tour 2022" . Will be amazing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First time checking in on BOTC this season…Bro’s c’mon! The last 4 pages have been nothing but you guys obsessing over 91 in some way or another. They live rent free in your head. Y’all remind me of the pack of teenage boys that all got dumped by the hottest chick in school so you just sit around talking smack on her.


Realest thing I’ve read


Stay tuned for the " my little pony and his revenge tour 2022" . Will be amazing


The detest is real lol stay behind your computers boys lol let the kids enjoy some lacrosse .. you guys have some sad sad lives
Where is my little pony bringing his revenge tour ,to my lollipop tournaments? That should be a good way to get revenge , go blow out some bad teams lol
Funny how the lacrosse world series championship Instagram page doesn't have any clips from express beating 91 machine . Biased much ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny how the lacrosse world series championship Instagram page doesn't have any clips from express beating 91 machine . Biased much ?

How dare you speak of that game!! Btw new USCL rankings out. No surprising to see the almighty (as their parents think) 91 drop lower in the rankings.
Good luck to all PAL kids starting tomorrow..
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to all PAL kids starting tomorrow..

Per the PAL rules every kid on the roster must play at least 6 minutes a half. Let’s see which coaches adhere. New rules stand up face ups. And now that this group is 7th grade, full 10/20 counts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to all PAL kids starting tomorrow..

Per the PAL rules every kid on the roster must play at least 6 minutes a half. Let’s see which coaches adhere. New rules stand up face ups. And now that this group is 7th grade, full 10/20 counts.


Isn't PAL done ? They're in 7th grade , playing jr high lacrosse. Are you saying they still have the same rules as PAL. That would be awful and a complete waste of time especially for boys who play travel lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to all PAL kids starting tomorrow..

Per the PAL rules every kid on the roster must play at least 6 minutes a half. Let’s see which coaches adhere. New rules stand up face ups. And now that this group is 7th grade, full 10/20 counts.

That’s the problem with PAL, baby ball. Should be playing HS rules, time to grow up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to all PAL kids starting tomorrow..

Per the PAL rules every kid on the roster must play at least 6 minutes a half. Let’s see which coaches adhere. New rules stand up face ups. And now that this group is 7th grade, full 10/20 counts.


Isn't PAL done ? They're in 7th grade , playing jr high lacrosse. Are you saying they still have the same rules as PAL. That would be awful and a complete waste of time especially for boys who play travel lacrosse.

Agreed - time to play real lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Good luck to all PAL kids starting tomorrow..

Per the PAL rules every kid on the roster must play at least 6 minutes a half. Let’s see which coaches adhere. New rules stand up face ups. And now that this group is 7th grade, full 10/20 counts.


Isn't PAL done ? They're in 7th grade , playing jr high lacrosse. Are you saying they still have the same rules as PAL. That would be awful and a complete waste of time especially for boys who play travel lacrosse.

Agreed - time to play real lacrosse.

7th and 8th grade PAL have modified rules and are on full counts and it’s mostly the same. But yes, Junior Lax and PAL lax makes no sense.
Any scores from PAL games yesterday? Be nice to share some information rather then bash kids and programs all day long.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from PAL games yesterday? Be nice to share some information rather then bash kids and programs all day long.


Not sure why you guys keep referring to 7th grade lacrosse as PAL. PAL for boys ends in 6th grade . Just an FYI this is a 2027 (7th grade ) thread . It is now jr high lacrosse and for most if not all schools they only started practicing last week/this week and have not played any games yet .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from PAL games yesterday? Be nice to share some information rather then bash kids and programs all day long.


Wow. Actually something useful on this message board. Please share any scores if you have them. The PAL website has never had scores or schedules updated.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from PAL games yesterday? Be nice to share some information rather then bash kids and programs all day long.


Wow. Actually something useful on this message board. Please share any scores if you have them. The PAL website has never had scores or schedules updated.

PAL 7th grade??? They are playing middle school 5 days per week, plus travel another two days per week. Nobody cares about PAL at this grade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from PAL games yesterday? Be nice to share some information rather then bash kids and programs all day long.


Wow. Actually something useful on this message board. Please share any scores if you have them. The PAL website has never had scores or schedules updated.

PAL 7th grade??? They are playing middle school 5 days per week, plus travel another two days per week. Nobody cares about PAL at this grade.

Not all of the kids play travel and PAL lacrosse opens the window for kids to play with their town. Chaminade & St. Anthony's can only take so many. The rest have to go play at their HS programs. Club has created such a toxic environment that people scoff at the new player trying lacrosse and label that kid as an outcast.

Little do all of you elitist know but there's a soccer or baseball kid that will pick up a stick in 7th or 8th grade that will make your kid look silly. Lacrosse is not a game of skill, it's an athlete sport. I'll take a kid that can run for days and is tough over the lazy slug that has great stick skills but can't get out of his own way.

PAL is where those kids have a chance to play. Some people can't afford to pay other peoples mortgages. Keep forking over the $$$$$ and get smoked everywhere you go. But hey, you have nice gear and great helmets. Unfortunately nobody will be real with you and tell you your kid stinks because you pay them.

If your kid is a lacrosse player he should be loyal to his town, his HS, and his buddies before his club. County titles and real championships mean much more than these useless T-shirts and 4k club fees.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from PAL games yesterday? Be nice to share some information rather then bash kids and programs all day long.


Wow. Actually something useful on this message board. Please share any scores if you have them. The PAL website has never had scores or schedules updated.

PAL 7th grade??? They are playing middle school 5 days per week, plus travel another two days per week. Nobody cares about PAL at this grade.

Not all of the kids play travel and PAL lacrosse opens the window for kids to play with their town. Chaminade & St. Anthony's can only take so many. The rest have to go play at their HS programs. Club has created such a toxic environment that people scoff at the new player trying lacrosse and label that kid as an outcast.

Little do all of you elitist know but there's a soccer or baseball kid that will pick up a stick in 7th or 8th grade that will make your kid look silly. Lacrosse is not a game of skill, it's an athlete sport. I'll take a kid that can run for days and is tough over the lazy slug that has great stick skills but can't get out of his own way.

PAL is where those kids have a chance to play. Some people can't afford to pay other peoples mortgages. Keep forking over the $$$$$ and get smoked everywhere you go. But hey, you have nice gear and great helmets. Unfortunately nobody will be real with you and tell you your kid stinks because you pay them.

If your kid is a lacrosse player he should be loyal to his town, his HS, and his buddies before his club. County titles and real championships mean much more than these useless T-shirts and 4k club fees.


Bravo. Well said. Only thing i would pull back on a bit is that largely you can't teach speed and athleticism a player is at a huge disadvantage/ learning curve if he only picks up stick in 7th-8tth grade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from PAL games yesterday? Be nice to share some information rather then bash kids and programs all day long.


Wow. Actually something useful on this message board. Please share any scores if you have them. The PAL website has never had scores or schedules updated.

PAL 7th grade??? They are playing middle school 5 days per week, plus travel another two days per week. Nobody cares about PAL at this grade.

Not all of the kids play travel and PAL lacrosse opens the window for kids to play with their town. Chaminade & St. Anthony's can only take so many. The rest have to go play at their HS programs. Club has created such a toxic environment that people scoff at the new player trying lacrosse and label that kid as an outcast.

Little do all of you elitist know but there's a soccer or baseball kid that will pick up a stick in 7th or 8th grade that will make your kid look silly. Lacrosse is not a game of skill, it's an athlete sport. I'll take a kid that can run for days and is tough over the lazy slug that has great stick skills but can't get out of his own way.

PAL is where those kids have a chance to play. Some people can't afford to pay other peoples mortgages. Keep forking over the $$$$$ and get smoked everywhere you go. But hey, you have nice gear and great helmets. Unfortunately nobody will be real with you and tell you your kid stinks because you pay them.

If your kid is a lacrosse player he should be loyal to his town, his HS, and his buddies before his club. County titles and real championships mean much more than these useless T-shirts and 4k club fees.


Bravo. Well said. Only thing i would pull back on a bit is that largely you can't teach speed and athleticism a player is at a huge disadvantage/ learning curve if he only picks up stick in 7th-8tth grade.


We know what PAL is but thanks for explaining . Nobody is disputing what PAL is , what was said is that PAL is now OVER. It is not jr high lacrosse . Yes, there will be kids playing for the first time and that's wonderful. However PAL for boys ends in 6th grade . They now have a junior high coach that is chosen through the school not a volunteer parent . And they will get on a bus when traveling to play other schools etc......so relax guy, understand what you're talking about before your spew things . I wish you the best , and hope your son has fun playing the sport .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from PAL games yesterday? Be nice to share some information rather then bash kids and programs all day long.


Wow. Actually something useful on this message board. Please share any scores if you have them. The PAL website has never had scores or schedules updated.

PAL 7th grade??? They are playing middle school 5 days per week, plus travel another two days per week. Nobody cares about PAL at this grade.

Not all of the kids play travel and PAL lacrosse opens the window for kids to play with their town. Chaminade & St. Anthony's can only take so many. The rest have to go play at their HS programs. Club has created such a toxic environment that people scoff at the new player trying lacrosse and label that kid as an outcast.

Little do all of you elitist know but there's a soccer or baseball kid that will pick up a stick in 7th or 8th grade that will make your kid look silly. Lacrosse is not a game of skill, it's an athlete sport. I'll take a kid that can run for days and is tough over the lazy slug that has great stick skills but can't get out of his own way.

PAL is where those kids have a chance to play. Some people can't afford to pay other peoples mortgages. Keep forking over the $$$$$ and get smoked everywhere you go. But hey, you have nice gear and great helmets. Unfortunately nobody will be real with you and tell you your kid stinks because you pay them.

If your kid is a lacrosse player he should be loyal to his town, his HS, and his buddies before his club. County titles and real championships mean much more than these useless T-shirts and 4k club fees.


Bravo. Well said. Only thing i would pull back on a bit is that largely you can't teach speed and athleticism a player is at a huge disadvantage/ learning curve if he only picks up stick in 7th-8tth grade.


We know what PAL is but thanks for explaining . Nobody is disputing what PAL is , what was said is that PAL is now OVER. It is not jr high lacrosse . Yes, there will be kids playing for the first time and that's wonderful. However PAL for boys ends in 6th grade . They now have a junior high coach that is chosen through the school not a volunteer parent . And they will get on a bus when traveling to play other schools etc......so relax guy, understand what you're talking about before your spew things . I wish you the best , and hope your son has fun playing the sport .

Incorrect...there is a 7/8 grade division in Nassau Suffolk PAL.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any scores from PAL games yesterday? Be nice to share some information rather then bash kids and programs all day long.


Wow. Actually something useful on this message board. Please share any scores if you have them. The PAL website has never had scores or schedules updated.

PAL 7th grade??? They are playing middle school 5 days per week, plus travel another two days per week. Nobody cares about PAL at this grade.

Not all of the kids play travel and PAL lacrosse opens the window for kids to play with their town. Chaminade & St. Anthony's can only take so many. The rest have to go play at their HS programs. Club has created such a toxic environment that people scoff at the new player trying lacrosse and label that kid as an outcast.

Little do all of you elitist know but there's a soccer or baseball kid that will pick up a stick in 7th or 8th grade that will make your kid look silly. Lacrosse is not a game of skill, it's an athlete sport. I'll take a kid that can run for days and is tough over the lazy slug that has great stick skills but can't get out of his own way.

PAL is where those kids have a chance to play. Some people can't afford to pay other peoples mortgages. Keep forking over the $$$$$ and get smoked everywhere you go. But hey, you have nice gear and great helmets. Unfortunately nobody will be real with you and tell you your kid stinks because you pay them.

If your kid is a lacrosse player he should be loyal to his town, his HS, and his buddies before his club. County titles and real championships mean much more than these useless T-shirts and 4k club fees.


Bravo. Well said. Only thing i would pull back on a bit is that largely you can't teach speed and athleticism a player is at a huge disadvantage/ learning curve if he only picks up stick in 7th-8tth grade.


We know what PAL is but thanks for explaining . Nobody is disputing what PAL is , what was said is that PAL is now OVER. It is not jr high lacrosse . Yes, there will be kids playing for the first time and that's wonderful. However PAL for boys ends in 6th grade . They now have a junior high coach that is chosen through the school not a volunteer parent . And they will get on a bus when traveling to play other schools etc......so relax guy, understand what you're talking about before your spew things . I wish you the best , and hope your son has fun playing the sport .

Actually there is 7th & 8th grade PAL lacrosse. Check the Nassau/Suffolk PAL page and understand what YOU'RE talking about before you spew your fake news wise guy.
We know what PAL is but thanks for explaining . Nobody is disputing what PAL is , what was said is that PAL is now OVER. It is not jr high lacrosse . Yes, there will be kids playing for the first time and that's wonderful. However PAL for boys ends in 6th grade . They now have a junior high coach that is chosen through the school not a volunteer parent . And they will get on a bus when traveling to play other schools etc......so relax guy, understand what you're talking about before your spew things . I wish you the best , and hope your son has fun playing the sport .[/quote]

Actually there is 7th & 8th grade PAL lacrosse. Check the Nassau/Suffolk PAL page and understand what YOU'RE talking about before you spew your fake news wise guy.[/quote]

The middle school and travel kids are not playing it except for a couple of towns.
Wow.....thats a nice long video of the 9th seed of the north qualifiers on Instagram .....I guess going to the final and ending as the #2 seed isn't enough for express to get any video time . Tournament directors are definitely not biased toward 91, not at all.
Would love to see a clip of my little pony watching the kids celebrate as express beat machine . Oh wait , we might have to creat a new platform for that to be seen . Definitely not going on the 91 run world series Instagram.
My Lacrosse Tournament World Series Edition
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow.....thats a nice long video of the 9th seed of the north qualifiers on Instagram .....I guess going to the final and ending as the #2 seed isn't enough for express to get any video time . Tournament directors are definitely not biased toward 91, not at all.

LMAOOOO not on the 91 world series. Partially stole a name and trying to run with it bc their little machine team thought they'd run away with it. Looks Like a few teams may have something to say about that though.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow.....thats a nice long video of the 9th seed of the north qualifiers on Instagram .....I guess going to the final and ending as the #2 seed isn't enough for express to get any video time . Tournament directors are definitely not biased toward 91, not at all.

LMAOOOO not on the 91 world series. Partially stole a name and trying to run with it bc their little machine team thought they'd run away with it. Looks Like a few teams may have something to say about that though.


Come on 91 world series directors , post some video of the machine game on Instagram . Let us see the unbiased footage . Let us see what sparked the revenge tour
There's gonna be a lot of revenge talk when 91 wins all their games this spring and summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's gonna be a lot of revenge talk when 91 wins all their games this spring and summer.


You are correct .... because they will be playing in " my lollipop tournaments".....even the NFL has become a joke but enjoy pounding your chests as you beat no name teams and call it a " national championship" lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's gonna be a lot of revenge talk when 91 wins all their games this spring and summer.


You are correct .... because they will be playing in " my lollipop tournaments".....even the NFL has become a joke but enjoy pounding your chests as you beat no name teams and call it a " national championship" lol

NLF is no joke, you sound clueless
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's gonna be a lot of revenge talk when 91 wins all their games this spring and summer.


You are correct .... because they will be playing in " my lollipop tournaments".....even the NFL has become a joke but enjoy pounding your chests as you beat no name teams and call it a " national championship" lol

NLF is no joke, you sound clueless


Last year's nlf opening in June was a joke . I was there . No Annapolis hawks , no eclipse , no bbl etc......there were only a few good teams there laxachussetts black, express , s2s and machine the rest were a joke . Now they also threw s2s out because someone at 91 threw a tantrum . So I do know what I'm talking about the opening nlf has become a watered down joke , the closing nlf had a lot of teams there and was good . So relax 91 dad, maybe your director should stop throwing tantrums and telling teams they're not invited to there is good competition, instead he chooses to throw teams out and have a watered down opening nlf and then when they win they call themselves national champs . More like national chumps .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Any scores from PAL games yesterday? Be nice to share some information rather then bash kids and programs all day long.


Wow. Actually something useful on this message board. Please share any scores if you have them. The PAL website has never had scores or schedules updated.

PAL 7th grade??? They are playing middle school 5 days per week, plus travel another two days per week. Nobody cares about PAL at this grade.

Not all of the kids play travel and PAL lacrosse opens the window for kids to play with their town. Chaminade & St. Anthony's can only take so many. The rest have to go play at their HS programs. Club has created such a toxic environment that people scoff at the new player trying lacrosse and label that kid as an outcast.

Little do all of you elitist know but there's a soccer or baseball kid that will pick up a stick in 7th or 8th grade that will make your kid look silly. Lacrosse is not a game of skill, it's an athlete sport. I'll take a kid that can run for days and is tough over the lazy slug that has great stick skills but can't get out of his own way.

PAL is where those kids have a chance to play. Some people can't afford to pay other peoples mortgages. Keep forking over the $$$$$ and get smoked everywhere you go. But hey, you have nice gear and great helmets. Unfortunately nobody will be real with you and tell you your kid stinks because you pay them.

If your kid is a lacrosse player he should be loyal to his town, his HS, and his buddies before his club. County titles and real championships mean much more than these useless T-shirts and 4k club fees.

Totally disagree. Your statement that soccer kid could pick up a lax stick in 7th and be good was true about 20 years ago. If a kid picks up a lacrosse stick for the first time in 7th he’s most likely way behind and will have a hard time catching up

To say lacrosse is not a game of skill is a silly statement. If a kid can’t catch and throw, switch hands, or dodge by 8th grade he won’t be crushing it in high school. All those skills take time to develop. No matter how athletic you are. If you can’t carry the ball without losing it and shoot effectively, you are liability.

Most kids who like lax are starting travel ball in 2nd/3rd grade. Very unlikely in todays day and age that a kid can pick up a stick for the first time in 8th and be very good. I think it’s insane, but it’s what we created.
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Wow.....thats a nice long video of the 9th seed of the north qualifiers on Instagram .....I guess going to the final and ending as the #2 seed isn't enough for express to get any video time . Tournament directors are definitely not biased toward 91, not at all.



Silence you cry baby 😭😭😂😂😂 ……
PAL 7th grade??? They are playing middle school 5 days per week, plus travel another two days per week. Nobody cares about PAL at this grade.[/quote]

Not all of the kids play travel and PAL lacrosse opens the window for kids to play with their town. Chaminade & St. Anthony's can only take so many. The rest have to go play at their HS programs. Club has created such a toxic environment that people scoff at the new player trying lacrosse and label that kid as an outcast.

Little do all of you elitist know but there's a soccer or baseball kid that will pick up a stick in 7th or 8th grade that will make your kid look silly. Lacrosse is not a game of skill, it's an athlete sport. I'll take a kid that can run for days and is tough over the lazy slug that has great stick skills but can't get out of his own way.

PAL is where those kids have a chance to play. Some people can't afford to pay other peoples mortgages. Keep forking over the $$$$$ and get smoked everywhere you go. But hey, you have nice gear and great helmets. Unfortunately nobody will be real with you and tell you your kid stinks because you pay them.

If your kid is a lacrosse player he should be loyal to his town, his HS, and his buddies before his club. County titles and real championships mean much more than these useless T-shirts and 4k club fees.[/quote]

Definitely agree school ball is very important. Not sure too many do play in 7th grade PAL.

PAL did post scores of games and had standings. They should post this year in this so called new and improved Nassau/Suffolk PAL.
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We know what PAL is but thanks for explaining . Nobody is disputing what PAL is , what was said is that PAL is now OVER. It is not jr high lacrosse . Yes, there will be kids playing for the first time and that's wonderful. However PAL for boys ends in 6th grade . They now have a junior high coach that is chosen through the school not a volunteer parent . And they will get on a bus when traveling to play other schools etc......so relax guy, understand what you're talking about before your spew things . I wish you the best , and hope your son has fun playing the sport .

Actually there is 7th & 8th grade PAL lacrosse. Check the Nassau/Suffolk PAL page and understand what YOU'RE talking about before you spew your fake news wise guy.[/quote]

The middle school and travel kids are not playing it except for a couple of towns.[/quote]

Exactly, there are a few towns that do it but most travel kids in 7th do not play PAL in my experience.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's gonna be a lot of revenge talk when 91 wins all their games this spring and summer.


You are correct .... because they will be playing in " my lollipop tournaments".....even the NFL has become a joke but enjoy pounding your chests as you beat no name teams and call it a " national championship" lol

NLF is no joke, you sound clueless


Last year's nlf opening in June was a joke . I was there . No Annapolis hawks , no eclipse , no bbl etc......there were only a few good teams there laxachussetts black, express , s2s and machine the rest were a joke . Now they also threw s2s out because someone at 91 threw a tantrum . So I do know what I'm talking about the opening nlf has become a watered down joke , the closing nlf had a lot of teams there and was good . So relax 91 dad, maybe your director should stop throwing tantrums and telling teams they're not invited to there is good competition, instead he chooses to throw teams out and have a watered down opening nlf and then when they win they call themselves national champs . More like national chumps .

NLF in July is a top national event
NAL has surpassed the NLF as the top summer tournament. Also, for the 91 " revenge" cheerleader....don't forget your my little pony and the revenge tour lost to the Colorado kings at last year's closing nlf. So I wouldn't get ahead of yourself saying that the revenge tour will win all spring and summer tournaments. I think you would know better by now .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's gonna be a lot of revenge talk when 91 wins all their games this spring and summer.


You are correct .... because they will be playing in " my lollipop tournaments".....even the NFL has become a joke but enjoy pounding your chests as you beat no name teams and call it a " national championship" lol

NLF is no joke, you sound clueless


Last year's nlf opening in June was a joke . I was there . No Annapolis hawks , no eclipse , no bbl etc......there were only a few good teams there laxachussetts black, express , s2s and machine the rest were a joke . Now they also threw s2s out because someone at 91 threw a tantrum . So I do know what I'm talking about the opening nlf has become a watered down joke , the closing nlf had a lot of teams there and was good . So relax 91 dad, maybe your director should stop throwing tantrums and telling teams they're not invited to there is good competition, instead he chooses to throw teams out and have a watered down opening nlf and then when they win they call themselves national champs . More like national chumps .

NLF in July is a top national event

NLF in June ,the opening week is a waste of time. Got watered down ....no top teams there anymore . Just another my lollipop tournament
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's gonna be a lot of revenge talk when 91 wins all their games this spring and summer.


Revenge tour rah rah rah....Revenge tour rah rah rah , have never heard of anything more ridiculous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's gonna be a lot of revenge talk when 91 wins all their games this spring and summer.


Revenge tour rah rah rah....Revenge tour rah rah rah , have never heard of anything more ridiculous

World series is nothing like the one my older son won,like 10% of former self, sad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's gonna be a lot of revenge talk when 91 wins all their games this spring and summer.


Revenge tour rah rah rah....Revenge tour rah rah rah , have never heard of anything more ridiculous

World series is nothing like the one my older son won,like 10% of former self, sad.


I don't have older kids but I heard the same thing. Kids looked forward to the world series and it was a well run event , kids were treated with class . As soon as the original world series owners announced it was over everyone was hoping that it wouldn't be ruined if someone else took it over . Then came word of the 30 kids rosters and some rumblings if who was involved with the new world series and it was all downhill . Very sad . Unfortunately anything that 91 touches becomes a horribly run money grab, complete trash .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There's gonna be a lot of revenge talk when 91 wins all their games this spring and summer.


Revenge tour rah rah rah....Revenge tour rah rah rah , have never heard of anything more ridiculous

World series is nothing like the one my older son won,like 10% of former self, sad.

Oh please enlighten us.
Is 2way a good program? Moving to CT and trying to figure it out. Seems the older teams are pretty bad but 27 team looks decent. Thoughts?
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Is 2way a good program? Moving to CT and trying to figure it out. Seems the older teams are pretty bad but 27 team looks decent. Thoughts?

2W is a good program.

My son is on a 2W Carolina (A) team, but the program does place a priority on their BLACK (AA) teams.

I still think PT has the best business model, with only one team per grade.
Those complaining that this year's World Series is not well run... I have no idea what you're talking about. Looks like almost all the best teams are participating, except the national teams that don't meet the geographic requirement. The regional tournaments have been really well run - the seedings have been right, and having teams play 6 games in a weekend makes sure the best teams advance. The communication has been great, and they're using NationalID to make sure everyone follows the rules.

Honestly, aside from the weather in the North and Central regions - everything seems just about perfect so far.

I have no idea what people are complaining about.

We'll see how the national tourney goes in June, but our experience so far has been great.
Perfect ?, lol. You brainless fools had the coldest regions play first in brutal snow, ice , rain ......and the warmest regions play last . You also have 9 teams going from one region , way too many . And expanded rosters to 30. Complete money grab . What a joke . In your alternate universe things might be perfect but from any parents point of view as well as the kids that had to play through the worst conditions they ever played in it has been an utter disaster . You also had cameras set up to live stream one field (team 91) with only team 91 playing there ....should I go on ?
I agree - they should have had the coldest regions play first, not last. Bad decision on their part. But your other complaints don't matter. 9 teams from the North? That makes sense, given that there were 18 teams in that region. Maybe it should have been 7 or 8 instead of 9, but that's a pretty minor point. The east had 7 teams, and 4 qualified. Effectively the same ratio, which is what matters.

And, who cares if they expanded the rosters to 30? Barely makes a difference, especially since most teams won't have nearly that many, and the ones that do won't have a meaningful advantage.

And, live-streaming just one field? Who cares?

So, all of the complaints you have seem like minor details.

The only things that really matter to the players...

1. Are the best teams competing? Yes, with the exception of national teams that can't (and shouldn't) qualify, and teams that have too many regarded (age-ineligible) kids
2. Are the regional tournaments well structured? Yes - the brackets are generally seeded correctly, and the teams play lots of games, to ensure that the teams that play the best move on
3. Are quality teams qualifying? Yes

These are the things that matter.

There are other great tournaments (NAL, Sandstorm, Club Nationals, etc.), but this is the best tournament I've seen with legit age-eligibility rules since the original WSYL.
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Those complaining that this year's World Series is not well run... I have no idea what you're talking about. Looks like almost all the best teams are participating, except the national teams that don't meet the geographic requirement. The regional tournaments have been really well run - the seedings have been right, and having teams play 6 games in a weekend makes sure the best teams advance. The communication has been great, and they're using NationalID to make sure everyone follows the rules.

Honestly, aside from the weather in the North and Central regions - everything seems just about perfect so far.

I have no idea what people are complaining about.

We'll see how the national tourney goes in June, but our experience so far has been great.

The complaints are most likely coming from parents of teams that were knocked out. Trying to downplay the World Series now so they don’t feel so bad.
Expanding rosters to 30 is a blatant money grab , taking money from kids/parents who probably won't see the field . Not necessary and don't say that those kids will be happy " just being there ". It's a shameful money grab and everyone knows it .
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Expanding rosters to 30 is a blatant money grab , taking money from kids/parents who probably won't see the field . Not necessary and don't say that those kids will be happy " just being there ". It's a shameful money grab and everyone knows it .

And it wasn't just streaming one field it was streaming one team . Team 91 machine ,so the people running the show had their bias exposed .
"Expanding rosters to 30 is a blatant money grab"... what a weak criticism.

It's an option the LWSC is **offering** for teams that want to bring more kids.

No team is FORCED to bring (or pay for) 30 kids. I'd bet most (maybe all) teams will have an appropriately sized roster. If a team decides to bring 30, but not play them all, that's on them, not the LWSC.

And the streaming? LWSC didn't promise streaming, our team didn't expect streaming, and no one cared that our games weren't streamed. Just doesn't matter at all.

Our kids care about playing good competition, playing lots of games, and a fair structure. LWSC has provided that so far. Your criticisms are irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is 2way a good program? Moving to CT and trying to figure it out. Seems the older teams are pretty bad but 27 team looks decent. Thoughts?

2W is a good program.

My son is on a 2W Carolina (A) team, but the program does place a priority on their BLACK (AA) teams.

I still think PT has the best business model, with only one team per grade.

It’s an ok program. Pulls mostly Brunswick hold backs but most of the best players in the area still migrate to PT or Eclipse. Guy who runs it doesn’t have much experience or connections. They generally play in weak tournaments which doesn’t matter now but will down the road.
Admin back on the 91 payroll ....won't allow any responses for the world series comments
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is 2way a good program? Moving to CT and trying to figure it out. Seems the older teams are pretty bad but 27 team looks decent. Thoughts?

2W is a good program.

My son is on a 2W Carolina (A) team, but the program does place a priority on their BLACK (AA) teams.

I still think PT has the best business model, with only one team per grade.

It’s an ok program. Pulls mostly Brunswick hold backs but most of the best players in the area still migrate to PT or Eclipse. Guy who runs it doesn’t have much experience or connections. They generally play in weak tournaments which doesn’t matter now but will down the road.

I would agree that they use holdbacks. But I think of the then as a boutique program. It’s not for everyone but if you are a top holdback there you tend to get in to very good schools. I think the 23 class has some IVys as well as Villanova Colgate and notre dame. Their tournaments are not as well known but the competition is really good.
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Admin back on the 91 payroll ....won't allow any responses for the world series comments

Funny I noticed the same thing multiple times.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Admin back on the 91 payroll ....won't allow any responses for the world series comments

Funny I noticed the same thing multiple times.


Really sad actually....then he/she will post this here just so everyone can see that they're being partial lol. Ridiculous. It's a shame that everything has become so biased that someone can't even post their opinion on a youth sports forum .
So let's recap ...team 91 has infiltrated the world series , this forums admin, and throws teams out of the NLF tournaments? What a sad, trashy organization.
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So let's recap ...team 91 has infiltrated the world series , this forums admin, and throws teams out of the NLF tournaments? What a sad, trashy organization.

The "Spullina" family owns this forum.
Don't knock a certain 91 founding family and you will be allowed to post whatever you want here.
Rebels train leaving soon. All aboard!! Hurry bc this team is legit and PB taking this team to promise land!!! We had a tough go w world series but still the team to beat, so please let's all join the Rebels train.
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Rebels train leaving soon. All aboard!! Hurry bc this team is legit and PB taking this team to promise land!!! We had a tough go w world series but still the team to beat, so please let's all join the Rebels train.

Non Rebels person trying to change the topic
the rebels comments just make 0 sense at this point...

91 machine and rage
express
S2S
legacy
igoo glaciers edge and kodiak rush
are all better than the 27 rebels A team.

come back when you beat someone other than mooselax, rush, turtles, a town team, or a 27/28 combo team
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the rebels comments just make 0 sense at this point...

91 machine and rage
express
S2S
legacy
igoo glaciers edge and kodiak rush
are all better than the 27 rebels A team.

come back when you beat someone other than mooselax, rush, turtles, a town team, or a 27/28 combo team

Glacier Edge is much better than Kodiak Rush by a large margin.
Mooselax/Outlaws should join with Turtles
RUSH should join with Legacy.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let's recap ...team 91 has infiltrated the world series , this forums admin, and throws teams out of the NLF tournaments? What a sad, trashy organization.

The "Spullina" family owns this forum.


My little pony and the revenge tour . Revenge for anyone who says anything against 91, you talk we throw you out of the NLF tournament, you keep going and we don't allow your comments here ....works series , yup we will have our way with the brackets there too . Sad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So let's recap ...team 91 has infiltrated the world series , this forums admin, and throws teams out of the NLF tournaments? What a sad, trashy organization.

The "Spullina" family owns this forum.


My little pony and the revenge tour . Revenge for anyone who says anything against 91, you talk we throw you out of the NLF tournament, you keep going and we don't allow your comments here ....works series , yup we will have our way with the brackets there too . Sad

Seems like they are very powerful to me. Not sad at all.
And you are perpetuating the myth!
Admin .....don't become sad and pathetic like your employer (team 91l . Allow all comments or find something else to do . It's amazing that this forum has become biased too . I think we see enough of that already in the media can't we have a fair forum ? Sad and ridiculous
You got blown out! How are you the team to beat?
2way is trash. 3rd in their region and t91 machine is clearly beatable. Should be fun summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2way is trash. 3rd in their region and t91 machine is clearly beatable. Should be fun summer.

agree on 2way.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2way is trash. 3rd in their region and t91 machine is clearly beatable. Should be fun summer.

"Clearly" I think they've lost maybe 3 games in 4-5 years. Good luck with that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2way is trash. 3rd in their region and t91 machine is clearly beatable. Should be fun summer.

"Clearly" I think they've lost maybe 3 games in 4-5 years. Good luck with that.


Only 3 games because they finally played some really teams no protection from sitting in " my lollipop tournaments" and blowing bad teams out 18-0. Good luck with the my little pony revenge tour
T91 machine is great. But Kings, Express and Eclipse are ELITE. BBL and the Texans are close but they also rely on kids playing down to compete.
So does express big time, your comment is irrelevant.
Last I checked the world series checks birth certificates and express smoked 91
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So does express big time, your comment is irrelevant.

Last time I checked ....the world series is an on age , birth certificate verified event and express beat down 91 badly
Admin, what's the problem ? We can't reply to the express comment ? Why isn't the post going up ?

I'll say it again ...the world series is an on age , birth certificate verified event . And express handed 91 a good beat down
I'll say it again. the WSYL is a defunct entity that closed its doors because of lawsuits held against their liabilities. This new event that you all seem to think is legitimate is also a sham. The only thing holding this event together is the fact that money is to be made off of people willing to spend recklessly. Inflation is at 8.5% which means that the mark up for this great sporting extravaganza is in the neighborhood of 40%+. Think about that as you hemorrhage money to travel to play the same competition you would most likely see in your region. Lacrosse will always be a hobby. Cricket gets more airtime on ESPN and every major college is looking to drop it. Truth. Lacrosse is a net negative except for folks like yourselves on this thread that think that it matters. Game on I say. Keep the gravy train flowing and the dreams high. They go nowhere fast.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'll say it again. the WSYL is a defunct entity that closed its doors because of lawsuits held against their liabilities. This new event that you all seem to think is legitimate is also a sham. The only thing holding this event together is the fact that money is to be made off of people willing to spend recklessly. Inflation is at 8.5% which means that the mark up for this great sporting extravaganza is in the neighborhood of 40%+. Think about that as you hemorrhage money to travel to play the same competition you would most likely see in your region. Lacrosse will always be a hobby. Cricket gets more airtime on ESPN and every major college is looking to drop it. Truth. Lacrosse is a net negative except for folks like yourselves on this thread that think that it matters. Game on I say. Keep the gravy train flowing and the dreams high. They go nowhere fast.

Wow, aren’t you a ray of sunshine! Do you want to weigh in on the existence of the Easter Bunny?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'll say it again. the WSYL is a defunct entity that closed its doors because of lawsuits held against their liabilities. This new event that you all seem to think is legitimate is also a sham. The only thing holding this event together is the fact that money is to be made off of people willing to spend recklessly. Inflation is at 8.5% which means that the mark up for this great sporting extravaganza is in the neighborhood of 40%+. Think about that as you hemorrhage money to travel to play the same competition you would most likely see in your region. Lacrosse will always be a hobby. Cricket gets more airtime on ESPN and every major college is looking to drop it. Truth. Lacrosse is a net negative except for folks like yourselves on this thread that think that it matters. Game on I say. Keep the gravy train flowing and the dreams high. They go nowhere fast.
This has been true forever.

We know it’s a hobby. And it’s one that us and our kids love.

People aren’t just doing this with visions of college scholarships or careers.Lots of us enjoy coaching for the friendships and competition and believe it or not, the kids play to have fun and compete with friends too.

Shocker!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'll say it again. the WSYL is a defunct entity that closed its doors because of lawsuits held against their liabilities. This new event that you all seem to think is legitimate is also a sham. The only thing holding this event together is the fact that money is to be made off of people willing to spend recklessly. Inflation is at 8.5% which means that the mark up for this great sporting extravaganza is in the neighborhood of 40%+. Think about that as you hemorrhage money to travel to play the same competition you would most likely see in your region. Lacrosse will always be a hobby. Cricket gets more airtime on ESPN and every major college is looking to drop it. Truth. Lacrosse is a net negative except for folks like yourselves on this thread that think that it matters. Game on I say. Keep the gravy train flowing and the dreams high. They go nowhere fast.


Thank you for your point of view.

Many families are looking forward to traveling to DC, explore the area and watch their son play competitive lacrosse with on age kids from around the country. Sham? Reckless? I don’t believe so. Experience and cost was provided and considered before we signed up.

The fact is that most believe lacrosse IS a hobby as well as an opportunity build great relationships, have great experiences, teach life values, etc.

Thank you again for your concern as to how many of us will invest our time and money. Please share with us your expenses so that we may illuminate for you shams and reckless choices you’re making.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'll say it again. the WSYL is a defunct entity that closed its doors because of lawsuits held against their liabilities. This new event that you all seem to think is legitimate is also a sham. The only thing holding this event together is the fact that money is to be made off of people willing to spend recklessly. Inflation is at 8.5% which means that the mark up for this great sporting extravaganza is in the neighborhood of 40%+. Think about that as you hemorrhage money to travel to play the same competition you would most likely see in your region. Lacrosse will always be a hobby. Cricket gets more airtime on ESPN and every major college is looking to drop it. Truth. Lacrosse is a net negative except for folks like yourselves on this thread that think that it matters. Game on I say. Keep the gravy train flowing and the dreams high. They go nowhere fast.

sorry your son's team didn't qualify
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'll say it again. the WSYL is a defunct entity that closed its doors because of lawsuits held against their liabilities. This new event that you all seem to think is legitimate is also a sham. The only thing holding this event together is the fact that money is to be made off of people willing to spend recklessly. Inflation is at 8.5% which means that the mark up for this great sporting extravaganza is in the neighborhood of 40%+. Think about that as you hemorrhage money to travel to play the same competition you would most likely see in your region. Lacrosse will always be a hobby. Cricket gets more airtime on ESPN and every major college is looking to drop it. Truth. Lacrosse is a net negative except for folks like yourselves on this thread that think that it matters. Game on I say. Keep the gravy train flowing and the dreams high. They go nowhere fast.

If lacrosse is such a dead end, what on earth are you doing trolling a lacrosse message board??!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last I checked the world series checks birth certificates and express smoked 91


Express had all legit age eligible kids. The reason for them seeming different is because most of the kids played for 2026 but are 2027s
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'll say it again. the WSYL is a defunct entity that closed its doors because of lawsuits held against their liabilities. This new event that you all seem to think is legitimate is also a sham. The only thing holding this event together is the fact that money is to be made off of people willing to spend recklessly. Inflation is at 8.5% which means that the mark up for this great sporting extravaganza is in the neighborhood of 40%+. Think about that as you hemorrhage money to travel to play the same competition you would most likely see in your region. Lacrosse will always be a hobby. Cricket gets more airtime on ESPN and every major college is looking to drop it. Truth. Lacrosse is a net negative except for folks like yourselves on this thread that think that it matters. Game on I say. Keep the gravy train flowing and the dreams high. They go nowhere fast.

sorry your son's team didn't qualify

Lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'll say it again. the WSYL is a defunct entity that closed its doors because of lawsuits held against their liabilities. This new event that you all seem to think is legitimate is also a sham. The only thing holding this event together is the fact that money is to be made off of people willing to spend recklessly. Inflation is at 8.5% which means that the mark up for this great sporting extravaganza is in the neighborhood of 40%+. Think about that as you hemorrhage money to travel to play the same competition you would most likely see in your region. Lacrosse will always be a hobby. Cricket gets more airtime on ESPN and every major college is looking to drop it. Truth. Lacrosse is a net negative except for folks like yourselves on this thread that think that it matters. Game on I say. Keep the gravy train flowing and the dreams high. They go nowhere fast.


Thank you for your point of view.

Many families are looking forward to traveling to DC, explore the area and watch their son play competitive lacrosse with on age kids from around the country. Sham? Reckless? I don’t believe so. Experience and cost was provided and considered before we signed up.

The fact is that most believe lacrosse IS a hobby as well as an opportunity build great relationships, have great experiences, teach life values, etc.

Thank you again for your concern as to how many of us will invest our time and money. Please share with us your expenses so that we may illuminate for you shams and reckless choices you’re making.

Omg these responses are gold
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last I checked the world series checks birth certificates and express smoked 91


Express had all legit age eligible kids. The reason for them seeming different is because most of the kids played for 2026 but are 2027s

Haha. Whatever you want to believe to help you sleep better at night, 91 parent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last I checked the world series checks birth certificates and express smoked 91


Express had all legit age eligible kids. The reason for them seeming different is because most of the kids played for 2026 but are 2027s

Haha. Whatever you want to believe to help you sleep better at night, 91 parent.



Does it feel good to have the normal players on the bench and while the 2026 kids do the work 😭😂
I think some are missing the point here, the Express 26's are on age and so hats off to them!

This is what makes the event really different / cool, I think. Watching kids compete in a fair environment regardless of manipulated their grade should be the norm. Watching overly competitive / wacko parents reclass or play Timmy down, so he can be the bright shining star is pathetic and compromises the spirit of competition. I'm hoping other organizers follow suit here but thats unlikely since they all run clubs who partake in the shenanigans...

OH also, my family are fine financially - thanks for your concern! 😉
"'Normal", these kids aren't aliens, they're on age... The Express WS team is not the Express '27 Haugen team which also has older kids.
attention attention (horn tooting)
the 91 machine revenge tour has started.
first stop, spring lax jam.

8th grade B teams and town teams better watch out
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last I checked the world series checks birth certificates and express smoked 91


Express had all legit age eligible kids. The reason for them seeming different is because most of the kids played for 2026 but are 2027s

Haha. Whatever you want to believe to help you sleep better at night, 91 parent.



Does it feel good to have the normal players on the bench and while the 2026 kids do the work 😭😂


What what what ...pathetic 91cry babies . There are 3 2026 kids on the world series . That's right , 3. So go back to commack and practice hard instead of making up meaningless mottos . We knew you would have en excuse , you're pathetic
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last I checked the world series checks birth certificates and express smoked 91


Express had all legit age eligible kids. The reason for them seeming different is because most of the kids played for 2026 but are 2027s

Haha. Whatever you want to believe to help you sleep better at night, 91 parent.



Does it feel good to have the normal players on the bench and while the 2026 kids do the work 😭😂


Seems like you were the ones watching express do all the work as they shoved the ball down your throat and my little pony stood there speechless . Back to the drawing board boys, revenge ,revenge, revenge lol...awesome
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last I checked the world series checks birth certificates and express smoked 91


Express had all legit age eligible kids. The reason for them seeming different is because most of the kids played for 2026 but are 2027s

Haha. Whatever you want to believe to help you sleep better at night, 91 parent.



Does it feel good to have the normal players on the bench and while the 2026 kids do the work 😭😂


Seems like you were the ones watching express do all the work as they shoved the ball down your throat and my little pony stood there speechless . Back to the drawing board boys, revenge ,revenge, revenge lol...awesome


Hi hater 😊sorry little Johnny’s team didn’t qualify
The " revenge tour " starts tomorrow with some serious matchups in another " my lollipop tournament" hahaha....yeah that's the way to get revenge. Good job boys
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The " revenge tour " starts tomorrow with some serious matchups in another " my lollipop tournament" hahaha....yeah that's the way to get revenge. Good job boys


Another sour apple 😭😂 grown men talking about a single team I’m sorry you had a rough child hood but it’s time to grow up 😭
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The " revenge tour " starts tomorrow with some serious matchups in another " my lollipop tournament" hahaha....yeah that's the way to get revenge. Good job boys


Another sour apple 😭😂 grown men talking about a single team I’m sorry you had a rough child hood but it’s time to grow up 😭


Thanks for the advice...I'll remember that as I watch the " grown men " on the machine sideline acting like they're in 3rd grade . Rah, rah, give me a chest bump and let's yell " revenge " .
My lax tourneys hit a new low. Just not good
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My lax tourneys hit a new low. Just not good


They have been getting progressively worse….and have been rebranded to “ my lollipop tournaments “…..they are now no different than a PAL team tournament. Sad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The " revenge tour " starts tomorrow with some serious matchups in another " my lollipop tournament" hahaha....yeah that's the way to get revenge. Good job boys


Another sour apple 😭😂 grown men talking about a single team I’m sorry you had a rough child hood but it’s time to grow up 😭


Thanks for the advice...I'll remember that as I watch the " grown men " on the machine sideline acting like they're in 3rd grade . Rah, rah, give me a chest bump and let's yell " revenge " .




😭😂 poor guy
Outsider looking in - let's ALL grow up a little. The "my little pony" talk makes me think that the haters are just as bad as the awful T91 parents...

Just saying... Lets enjoy watching out kids play this wonderul game!
Boooooooooooooooo
Wait...so trash 91 coaches and parents can act like juveniles at games but no one can come on here and call them out on it or stoop to their level ? When the day comes that trash 91 learns how to act there will be no more funny names on here anymore .
Doubt that will happen as that is the only way they know straight from the top of the organization. But willing to give it a shot lol
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Wait...so trash 91 coaches and parents can act like juveniles at games but no one can come on here and call them out on it or stoop to their level ? When the day comes that trash 91 learns how to act there will be no more funny names on here anymore .
Doubt that will happen as that is the only way they know straight from the top of the organization. But willing to give it a shot lol


I’ve seen several teams that weren’t 91 act like a bunch of babies so continue to tell us how 91 is the only club … hi haters
The tickets are punched for the LWSC, who are the top 3 favorites to take the coveted trophy?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The tickets are punched for the LWSC, who are the top 3 favorites to take the coveted trophy?


It’s gonna be tough I’m gonna go

1.kings
2.eclipse
3.machine
4.express
Good call, I’d place Express in the 3 slot and Machine 4.
Kings
Massachusetts
Eclipse
Express
Machine
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kings
Massachusetts
Eclipse
Express
Machine


Sounds pretty accurate we will see how mass holds up either way it’s going to be a good event look forward to seeing all the talent on the field
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kings
Massachusetts
Eclipse
Express
Machine


Sounds pretty accurate we will see how mass holds up either way it’s going to be a good event look forward to seeing all the talent on the field

The corrupt underbelly of club lacrosse will not allow talent to win. Talent will be recruited and poached to make sure the winners win and nobody else has a shot. Prove me wrong!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kings
Massachusetts
Eclipse
Express
Machine


Sounds pretty accurate we will see how mass holds up either way it’s going to be a good event look forward to seeing all the talent on the field

The corrupt underbelly of club lacrosse will not allow talent to win. Talent will be recruited and poached to make sure the winners win and nobody else has a shot. Prove me wrong!!

This sounds interesting are teams pulling kids from the free agent pool 🤔
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kings
Massachusetts
Eclipse
Express
Machine


Sounds pretty accurate we will see how mass holds up either way it’s going to be a good event look forward to seeing all the talent on the field

The corrupt underbelly of club lacrosse will not allow talent to win. Talent will be recruited and poached to make sure the winners win and nobody else has a shot. Prove me wrong!!

This sounds interesting are teams pulling kids from the free agent pool 🤔

I think it sounds like sour grapes
Here’s a peek of LWSC brackets

A
Eclipse
Express CoachC
Express North
Sweetlax
Team Massachusetts
Shore2Shore
Team 91 Rage
True IL
BBL
Kings


B
Machine
2 Way
True MI
Jersey Express
True Annapolis
3D Georgia
Stars and Stripes
Stealth Lacrosse
Team SoCal
Team PA
Eclipse beat Team Mass twice during qualifiers. I don't think either were really that close, they shouldn't be ahead of them.
1. Kings
2. Eclipse
3. Machine
4. Express
5. BBL
Express beat Machine. I think the your standings are off.
1. Eclipse
2. Kings
3. BBL
4. Express
BBL is not at that level without their holdbacks.
Very tight games I think
Rage looked good today at tournament losing to Legacy
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rage looked good today at tournament losing to Legacy
That's because Rage is a "B" team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rage looked good today at tournament losing to Legacy
That's because Rage is a "B" team.


Joke of a tournament. Forfeit for the Championship!?!?.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here’s a peek of LWSC brackets

A
Eclipse
Express CoachC
Express North
Sweetlax
Team Massachusetts
Shore2Shore
Team 91 Rage
True IL
BBL
Kings


B
Machine
2 Way
True MI
Jersey Express
True Annapolis
3D Georgia
Stars and Stripes
Stealth Lacrosse
Team SoCal
Team PA



Is that serious ?if it is don't even bother going ...what a joke .machine in a bracket with horrible teams and the other bracket is the death bracket with all of the top teams ? Basically a cake walk into the finals . Not one good team besides 2way in the machine bracket. Rigged once again . These people have no shame whatsoever
NLF schedule is up...as discussed here previously it's now a watered down tournament. Missing -annapolis hawks,bbl, eclipse , sweetlax, igloo , s2s.....the list goes on. And they call it "national " ....lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NLF schedule is up...as discussed here previously it's now a watered down tournament. Missing -annapolis hawks,bbl, eclipse , sweetlax, igloo , s2s.....the list goes on. And they call it "national " ....lol


Calm yourself; they’ll all be at the July one for the actual Championship.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NLF schedule is up...as discussed here previously it's now a watered down tournament. Missing -annapolis hawks,bbl, eclipse , sweetlax, igloo , s2s.....the list goes on. And they call it "national " ....lol


Calm yourself; they’ll all be at the July one for the actual Championship.


So this is the championship before the championship lol.... championship of what exactly. Stop making the NLF sound like a big deal when nobody goes to the opening tournament and teams keep getting thrown out when some directors "on the board" throw tantrums
and once again machine gets an easy schedule.
T
Originally Posted by Anonymous
and once again machine gets an easy schedule.

Easy? They will lose to Texas Nationals. Won’t be close.
Check the scores…
NAL is posted. 22 teams. Solid lineup.
Agreed. Texas nationals are a better more athletic team. Will be similar to the Kings game last summer. Machine coaches will be going mad on the sidelines replacing goalies after each goal as if it were something other than their team just getting beat.
I’m sure Texas is very athletic being the players are most likely grown men. Machine will never have a repeat game like they did against the Kings last summer. Machine now has one of the best pound for pound FOGOs/Middies in the circuit and will possess the ball 90 % of the game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m sure Texas is very athletic being the players are most likely grown men. Machine will never have a repeat game like they did against the Kings last summer. Machine now has one of the best pound for pound FOGOs/Middies in the circuit and will possess the ball 90 % of the game.

Funny how when he travels to md for hoco doesn't look so good.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m sure Texas is very athletic being the players are most likely grown men. Machine will never have a repeat game like they did against the Kings last summer. Machine now has one of the best pound for pound FOGOs/Middies in the circuit and will possess the ball 90 % of the game.

Yupp and all the other teams are standing still, not getting better!

Hope he’s worth 9 goals, cause that’s what u needed to beat the Kings. And sure hope the Kings haven’t gotten better. Heard they have!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m sure Texas is very athletic being the players are most likely grown men. Machine will never have a repeat game like they did against the Kings last summer. Machine now has one of the best pound for pound FOGOs/Middies in the circuit and will possess the ball 90 % of the game.

Funny how when he travels to md for hoco doesn't look so good.


Oh so now they have the best fogo and that will change everything? What happened at the world series qualifiers? You got spanked with that same fogo . What makes you think the kings or any other team for that matter can't handle you with that fogo? You're dreaming again . Have to love the machine parents , always a great explanation for losing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
and once again machine gets an easy schedule.


It's mind boggling to see these schedules and how machine gets cakewalk schedules. It's amazing . They're playing express north, mad lax and Bethesda . While teams like the Texas nationals and Annapolis hawks are in the same bracket . So machine gets a cakewalk I to the winners brackets while Annapolis and Texas nationals have to knock each other out . Amazing how they get away with this time and time again. .it's ok though because as you advance you will always have to play one of the big dogs .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
and once again machine gets an easy schedule.


It's mind boggling to see these schedules and how machine gets cakewalk schedules. It's amazing . They're playing express north, mad lax and Bethesda . While teams like the Texas nationals and Annapolis hawks are in the same bracket . So machine gets a cakewalk I to the winners brackets while Annapolis and Texas nationals have to knock each other out . Amazing how they get away with this time and time again. .it's ok though because as you advance you will always have to play one of the big dogs .


If they manage to get away with the cupcake schedule for summer tournaments I can't wait to see the world series brackets . Will be amazing to see how they're set up against the weak teams while some of the better clubs have to knock each other out . Disgusting that they could infiltrate and control brackets
Perhaps more often than not machine may have an easier schedule, but if you believe that is a cakewalk schedule, you are clueless.
the NAL tournament has top teams across the board no doubt, BUT, if you look at all the brackets, the Machine bracket is by far the easiest. After Machine, no team is in the top 20.
the other brackets are tougher, you can not argue that.
it was the same way for the WS. Machine had the easiest schedule by far, along with shore to shore
it's consistently happening now, and its a joke.
Their NLF schedule is also a joke.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Perhaps more often than not machine may have an easier schedule, but if you believe that is a cakewalk schedule, you are clueless.


Clueless ? Go look at the NLF scores today and then tell me who is clueless . Another joke of a tournament. You don't blow teams out because you're that good you blow then out because now the NLF is filled with bad B level teams . Sad. Like the person said here before NAL is a much better tournament and somehow the 91 cry babies pulled off another pay off there and got an easy schedule. But I could gaurantee they will.lose in the semis or finals . They will not beat the good teams that are left at the end . Promise you that
Talking about their NAL schedule, Genius.
The team from NorCal just beat Machine 5-3 in bracket play. Looks like Machine is one of six or seven 2027 teams that can win on any given day.
And the team from Texas beat them 6-5 in the consolation game. Parity is good. Should be an interesting NLF Finals in July with Kings and Hawks added to the mix.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’m sure Texas is very athletic being the players are most likely grown men. Machine will never have a repeat game like they did against the Kings last summer. Machine now has one of the best pound for pound FOGOs/Middies in the circuit and will possess the ball 90 % of the game.


You were saying ? ……..lol. Sounds like someone may want to correct their statement . Not only did machine get beat on face offs but they were outplayed in every facet of the game against California team. Back to the drawing board . And boy is it hard to try to watch a game with those loud mouth machine parents on the defensive side of the field , I feel embarrassed for them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The team from NorCal just beat Machine 5-3 in bracket play. Looks like Machine is one of six or seven 2027 teams that can win on any given day.

Hard to watch with all those coaches constantly barking. Don’t honestly believe the kids respond positively to that or hear them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The team from NorCal just beat Machine 5-3 in bracket play. Looks like Machine is one of six or seven 2027 teams that can win on any given day.
Nlf is a joke all 9th graders that come down and pound on younger kids and are happy with that. Texas team was a talented team they played well the Cali team was another bunch of holdbacks but played amazing lacrosse .. the mass team was full of tattooed 10th graders. Rage looked lost and confused lol..express played decent ball but apparently were missing all of their studs .machine as always got lined up with pretty easy teams untill Cali put them back in their place.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The team from NorCal just beat Machine 5-3 in bracket play. Looks like Machine is one of six or seven 2027 teams that can win on any given day.
Nlf is a joke all 9th graders that come down and pound on younger kids and are happy with that. Texas team was a talented team they played well the Cali team was another bunch of holdbacks but played amazing lacrosse .. the mass team was full of tattooed 10th graders. Rage looked lost and confused lol..express played decent ball but apparently were missing all of their studs .machine as always got lined up with pretty easy teams untill Cali put them back in their place.


Cali was on age , I know that's a common excuse on here .but talked to some dada and they are form northern Cali and all 7th graders. Regardless machine is broken
The teams out west are improving. A few (NorCal, Texas Nationals and Kings) have already caught up and are competing for championships in each tournament they enter. It’s good to see that good lax is not limited to one region.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams out west are improving. A few (NorCal, Texas Nationals and Kings) have already caught up and are competing for championships in each tournament they enter. It’s good to see that good lax is not limited to one region.

It’s sad for this sport really. Because too many teams now using the holdback loophole to be competitive. It’s plaguing this sport from youth through college. SMH
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams out west are improving. A few (NorCal, Texas Nationals and Kings) have already caught up and are competing for championships in each tournament they enter. It’s good to see that good lax is not limited to one region.

It’s sad for this sport really. Because too many teams now using the holdback loophole to be competitive. It’s plaguing this sport from youth through college. SMH

25 year olds playing for ncaa title; pathetic
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams out west are improving. A few (NorCal, Texas Nationals and Kings) have already caught up and are competing for championships in each tournament they enter. It’s good to see that good lax is not limited to one region.

It’s sad for this sport really. Because too many teams now using the holdback loophole to be competitive. It’s plaguing this sport from youth through college. SMH

And there is the 91 excuse , holdback...holdback. once again, the California team were on age and in 7th grade . Just because a kid is tall doesn't mean he's older . Get over it and work on making your team better . You got outplayed and from the looks of things your team is very beatable and this won't be your last loss . More coming up . So can cry or you can go and practice to get better . From the looks of things you need the practice
holdbacks aren’t a thing out west. Not like the private school loophole used in the east. A big kid doesn’t mean he is a holdback. Give the kids some credit rather than making excuses.
They are older, and that’s a distinct and real advantage. No question and it’s pathetic. Those kid could play but it’s fun be bigger faster stronger. Only reason at this point that the World Series is special.
Agree 100 percent. It’s the private schools that killed the sport of lacrosse. Again, it’s about money. Why are there 25 year olds playing in college?! They need to change the system - we don’t have these issues in football, soccer and wrestling.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams out west are improving. A few (NorCal, Texas Nationals and Kings) have already caught up and are competing for championships in each tournament they enter. It’s good to see that good lax is not limited to one region.

It’s sad for this sport really. Because too many teams now using the holdback loophole to be competitive. It’s plaguing this sport from youth through college. SMH

And there is the 91 excuse , holdback...holdback. once again, the California team were on age and in 7th grade . Just because a kid is tall doesn't mean he's older . Get over it and work on making your team better . You got outplayed and from the looks of things your team is very beatable and this won't be your last loss . More coming up . So can cry or you can go and practice to get better . From the looks of things you need the practice

Kings is the only team in your grouping that’s willing to walk the talk by playing in the WSL tournament. WSL is the only tournament that levels the playing field by keeping to on age kids and prevents teams from recruiting ringers from other regions.

Now, let’s hear those excuses for why your team is not participating in the WSL tournament…

1. The tournament is a joke
2. The competition is a joke
3. Five grand to play in one tournament is a joke
4. July 4th weekend tournament is a joke
5. Flying across the country to play lax is a joke

Did I miss any?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
holdbacks aren’t a thing out west. Not like the private school loophole used in the east. A big kid doesn’t mean he is a holdback. Give the kids some credit rather than making excuses.


That California team was smooth. Played excellent lacrosse they had a few tall kids again just tall kids.. the mass team that was full of high school kids clear as day. Machine has to oil back up because these west coast teams are coming to win. And What happens to rage and express both looked horrible.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams out west are improving. A few (NorCal, Texas Nationals and Kings) have already caught up and are competing for championships in each tournament they enter. It’s good to see that good lax is not limited to one region.

It’s sad for this sport really. Because too many teams now using the holdback loophole to be competitive. It’s plaguing this sport from youth through college. SMH

And there is the 91 excuse , holdback...holdback. once again, the California team were on age and in 7th grade . Just because a kid is tall doesn't mean he's older . Get over it and work on making your team better . You got outplayed and from the looks of things your team is very beatable and this won't be your last loss . More coming up . So can cry or you can go and practice to get better . From the looks of things you need the practice

Kings is the only team in your grouping that’s willing to walk the talk by playing in the WSL tournament. WSL is the only tournament that levels the playing field by keeping to on age kids and prevents teams from recruiting ringers from other regions.

Now, let’s hear those excuses for why your team is not participating in the WSL tournament…

1. The tournament is a joke
2. The competition is a joke
3. Five grand to play in one tournament is a joke
4. July 4th weekend tournament is a joke
5. Flying across the country to play lax is a joke

Did I miss any?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams out west are improving. A few (NorCal, Texas Nationals and Kings) have already caught up and are competing for championships in each tournament they enter. It’s good to see that good lax is not limited to one region.

It’s sad for this sport really. Because too many teams now using the holdback loophole to be competitive. It’s plaguing this sport from youth through college. SMH

And there is the 91 excuse , holdback...holdback. once again, the California team were on age and in 7th grade . Just because a kid is tall doesn't mean he's older . Get over it and work on making your team better . You got outplayed and from the looks of things your team is very beatable and this won't be your last loss . More coming up . So can cry or you can go and practice to get better . From the looks of things you need the practice

Kings is the only team in your grouping that’s willing to walk the talk by playing in the WSL tournament. WSL is the only tournament that levels the playing field by keeping to on age kids and prevents teams from recruiting ringers from other regions.

Now, let’s hear those excuses for why your team is not participating in the WSL tournament…

1. The tournament is a joke
2. The competition is a joke
3. Five grand to play in one tournament is a joke
4. July 4th weekend tournament is a joke
5. Flying across the country to play lax is a joke

Did I miss any?





Spot on
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams out west are improving. A few (NorCal, Texas Nationals and Kings) have already caught up and are competing for championships in each tournament they enter. It’s good to see that good lax is not limited to one region.

It’s sad for this sport really. Because too many teams now using the holdback loophole to be competitive. It’s plaguing this sport from youth through college. SMH

And there is the 91 excuse , holdback...holdback. once again, the California team were on age and in 7th grade . Just because a kid is tall doesn't mean he's older . Get over it and work on making your team better . You got outplayed and from the looks of things your team is very beatable and this won't be your last loss . More coming up . So can cry or you can go and practice to get better . From the looks of things you need the practice[/quote]

Kings is the only team in your grouping that’s willing to walk the talk by playing in the WSL tournament. WSL is the only tournament that levels the playing field by keeping to on age kids and prevents teams from recruiting ringers from other regions.

Now, let’s hear those excuses for why your team is not participating in the WSL tournament…

1. The tournament is a joke
2. The competition is a joke
3. Five grand to play in one tournament is a joke
4. July 4th weekend tournament is a joke
5. Flying across the country to play lax is a joke

Did I miss any?[/quote]





Spot on[/quote]


91 machine dad .....your team got beat badly in the world series qualifiers. And your second team that cries about holdbacks barely squeaked in with the 9 seed. Qualifiers we're on age with birth certificates. Stop your crying . Find some new excuses .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The teams out west are improving. A few (NorCal, Texas Nationals and Kings) have already caught up and are competing for championships in each tournament they enter. It’s good to see that good lax is not limited to one region.

It’s sad for this sport really. Because too many teams now using the holdback loophole to be competitive. It’s plaguing this sport from youth through college. SMH

And there is the 91 excuse , holdback...holdback. once again, the California team were on age and in 7th grade . Just because a kid is tall doesn't mean he's older . Get over it and work on making your team better . You got outplayed and from the looks of things your team is very beatable and this won't be your last loss . More coming up . So can cry or you can go and practice to get better . From the looks of things you need the practice

Kings is the only team in your grouping that’s willing to walk the talk by playing in the WSL tournament. WSL is the only tournament that levels the playing field by keeping to on age kids and prevents teams from recruiting ringers from other regions.

Now, let’s hear those excuses for why your team is not participating in the WSL tournament…

1. The tournament is a joke
2. The competition is a joke
3. Five grand to play in one tournament is a joke
4. July 4th weekend tournament is a joke
5. Flying across the country to play lax is a joke

Did I miss any?[/quote]





Spot on[/quote]


91 machine dad .....your team got beat badly in the world series qualifiers. And your second team that cries about holdbacks barely squeaked in with the 9 seed. Qualifiers we're on age with birth certificates. Stop your crying . Find some new excuses .[/quote]



There are no excuses when it’s 27 vs 27 when it’s 2025/26 it makes a world of difference.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
holdbacks aren’t a thing out west. Not like the private school loophole used in the east. A big kid doesn’t mean he is a holdback. Give the kids some credit rather than making excuses.

It is a thing everywhere in lacrosse! They will prob. Be doing it too, or prob not going to go D1! Look at D1 commits.
Did you see their birth certificates or are you just assuming based on their size and athleticism?
Looks like Express’ 26s weren’t there this weekend to save them. They looked average as usual
Watch the game (T91 vs ADVNC), it's on youtube, and you'll see that ADVNC level of play is not great - they are just simply bigger faster stronger. ZERO question on this. That said, the mighty Machine is not the invincible force they thought they were. They will run into this all summer bc kids naturally mature at different points and teams/ their parents are gross letting Petey punch down.

That said, there are a lot of dangerous teams – kudos to those who’re playing with kids who’re on age!
No reason to holdback in wrestling because wrestlers are matched by weight, or in football b/c of weight limits for skill position players pre-high school in many parts of the country. As for soccer, they go by birth year as far as I know, not graduation year. Lacrosse encourages it because of these national tournaments based on grad year only and b/c there are no size restrictions for any position. Also keep in mind that, at this point in development, a kid with an August or September 2008 birthday may be more developed than his peers, not because he is a "holdback" in the sense of a kid who is a full year older than his competition (i.e. a 2007 birthday). The Cali team has some big kids and the Laxachusetts team has some young men. Willing to give NorCal the benefit of the doubt that the reason they don't have a WSYL team is because the the 100 mile radius rule (which benefits the population dense east coast and I'm guessing is just big enough to cover the area the Machine draws from;). A 100 mile radius in many parts of the country covers a much smaller population than in LI/NYC. Wonder if the coaches for Machine have calmed down yet. Poor kids.
Just so you know both the machine games could have gone either way. Lost 6-5 to the TX team who scored both a goal at end of half with no time left and one at end of the game with no time left. Have never seen this happen before. The TX team lost the day before to them 7-2. The CA game with Adv also could have gone either way. 5-3 is close and it was back and forth. Both these out of state teams were crazy athletic especially on defense and in transition. Overall 3 very good teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No reason to holdback in wrestling because wrestlers are matched by weight, or in football b/c of weight limits for skill position players pre-high school in many parts of the country. As for soccer, they go by birth year as far as I know, not graduation year. Lacrosse encourages it because of these national tournaments based on grad year only and b/c there are no size restrictions for any position. Also keep in mind that, at this point in development, a kid with an August or September 2008 birthday may be more developed than his peers, not because he is a "holdback" in the sense of a kid who is a full year older than his competition (i.e. a 2007 birthday). The Cali team has some big kids and the Laxachusetts team has some young men. Willing to give NorCal the benefit of the doubt that the reason they don't have a WSYL team is because the the 100 mile radius rule (which benefits the population dense east coast and I'm guessing is just big enough to cover the area the Machine draws from;). A 100 mile radius in many parts of the country covers a much smaller population than in LI/NYC. Wonder if the coaches for Machine have calmed down yet. Poor kids.

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about in regards to wrestling. Holding back in wrestling is way more rampant than lacrosse, makes lax parents look like amateurs. I’d break it all down for you but the fact that you posted this tells me how little you know about elite level wrestling.
pound for pound??? Thats how we rank Fogo's. LOL
Thanks Machine fogo Dad
To the guy who said there were 25/26 players on the 27 teams ,must be a 91 machine dad looking for excuses. Just so you're aware , you're directors made it a point of letting all coaches know that they had to be " on grade " for the NLF. So everyone was a 27. Machines days of blowing out bad teams are over ....now the true colors come out . Just not a great team . Live with it .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like Express’ 26s weren’t there this weekend to save them. They looked average as usual


You sound like a very bitter 91 parent that still hasn't gotten over your " on age birth certificate approved" world series qualifiers loss ....sour grapes
Both Advc and Lax Black have a much of kids that are effectively 26s by age, regardless of what grade they're in. At this (6th/7th/8th) age group, that’s HUGE and so their success is compromised.

With respect to the “LI Express 26” player comment. LIE have a 26, who's age eligible for 27 and he appropriately played on their WS U13 team. ALL ABOVE BOARD. Grouping by grade, which is easily manipulated, is just notIntelligent and inferring LIE did something wrong (their at least) isn’t right.

Good on that kid for being a beast.
Where are the 91 machine parents? Last week they didn't even make the finals , this week they got smoked in the finals lol....once again...you can rig the first round but in the end you have to get through the big boys and you failed once again.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are the 91 machine parents? Last week they didn't even make the finals , this week they got smoked in the finals lol....once again...you can rig the first round but in the end you have to get through the big boys and you failed once again.

Aren’t kings one of the top teams? Unless your son plays for WCS can you really talk garbage.
Prediction.....A Long Island Team will not win the 2022 World Series Of Youth Lacrosse this July!!! The 2027 Long Island talent pool is average at best!
Kings are a good team, but you played them in a playoff bracket. The criticism of rigging the first round is valid. Bethesda LC, MadLax, and Express North are pretty bad in this age group. Those teams combined to score a whopping six goals total in four games against Machine. None of them are competitive on a national level.
5k club , $5 gallon fuel prices , Tolls , hotel , breakfast lunch diners and drive back at 2pm from Delaware really really worth it people ? Seriously Legacy stop going away and the rest of money hungry clubs . Had local Li tournaments this weekend and my son had a blast .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kings are a good team, but you played them in a playoff bracket. The criticism of rigging the first round is valid. Bethesda LC, MadLax, and Express North are pretty bad in this age group. Those teams combined to score a whopping six goals total in four games against Machine. None of them are competitive on a national level.


How do you rig the first round of a tournament not under your control? This was not a Dynamic event.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where are the 91 machine parents? Last week they didn't even make the finals , this week they got smoked in the finals lol....once again...you can rig the first round but in the end you have to get through the big boys and you failed once again.

Aren’t kings one of the top teams? Unless your son plays for WCS can you really talk garbage.


Whaa....whaa 91 machine cry baby . Thanks for letting us know the rules of engagement. Go back to beating bad teams . Let me guess ..the wcs had grown men playing for them right ? The kids drive their cars to the field ? Lol...you're sad
Every Tournament, Machine's 1st round is a joke, No way around it. They did beat Kings this weekend but give me a break on who they played on Saturday.
It might be time for Machine to go back and play 2026 B brackets to grab a t-shirt.
91 will always be relevant because you grown men can’t stop talking about them lol yes machine lost but still are a top team.. find something else to focus on. Are your lives that boring that you have to obsess over a 7th grade team. Move on
Tristar this weekend. Should be solid. They opened the 2027 AA bracket for clubs to bring age eligible kids as a tune up for the WSYL.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Kings are a good team, but you played them in a playoff bracket. The criticism of rigging the first round is valid. Bethesda LC, MadLax, and Express North are pretty bad in this age group. Those teams combined to score a whopping six goals total in four games against Machine. None of them are competitive on a national level.


How do you rig the first round of a tournament not under your control? This was not a Dynamic event.

Good question, and here is the answer:

(1) lacrosse is a small world and everyone who owns or runs the clubs, tournaments, vendors, etc. all know each other and are former teammates, drinking buddies, etc.
(2) there is a ton of economic cross pollination and people take care of each other business-wise - I am not talking about direct payoffs, but rather by attending tournaments, camps, showcases, buying merchandise, uniforms, video, etc.
(3) the results speak for themselves - the three teams in Machine's bracket were the three weakest in the overall field - none of them won a game except against each other, and MadLax, the team that emerged as the best of the three fillers, was blown out by a combined score of 16-1 by Machine in two games. Think about that, does a team that can't score more than 1 goal in two games belong at NAL, and MadLax was the BEST of those three. Machine got to 3-0 without breaking a sweat.
(4) coincidence or just a lucky draw? Maybe, but it seems to happen at all tournaments for certain programs.

Hope that helps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tristar this weekend. Should be solid. They opened the 2027 AA bracket for clubs to bring age eligible kids as a tune up for the WSYL.



Seems like they have a solid tourney every year. Stacked with talent
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tristar this weekend. Should be solid. They opened the 2027 AA bracket for clubs to bring age eligible kids as a tune up for the WSYL.



Seems like they have a solid tourney every year. Stacked with talent

They do. It’s not that 40 minute running, no time no nonsense. They actually try and structure real games. Just compare rule sets to the competing tourney this weekend. It’s like PAL vs HS. Only criticism in Tristar is schedule the older brackets. Mitchell has lights. Would love to see Express, Bandits and OGs battling it’s out. Especially since so many are teammates in the spring. I think a few college coaches would like to see that as well.
Who cares you obessed over weight hacks !!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tristar this weekend. Should be solid. They opened the 2027 AA bracket for clubs to bring age eligible kids as a tune up for the WSYL.



Seems like they have a solid tourney every year. Stacked with talent

They do. It’s not that 40 minute running, no time no nonsense. They actually try and structure real games. Just compare rule sets to the competing tourney this weekend. It’s like PAL vs HS. Only criticism in Tristar is schedule the older brackets. Mitchell has lights. Would love to see Express, Bandits and OGs battling it’s out. Especially since so many are teammates in the spring. I think a few college coaches would like to see that as well.


No they absolutely would not, lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tristar this weekend. Should be solid. They opened the 2027 AA bracket for clubs to bring age eligible kids as a tune up for the WSYL.



Seems like they have a solid tourney every year. Stacked with talent

They do. It’s not that 40 minute running, no time no nonsense. They actually try and structure real games. Just compare rule sets to the competing tourney this weekend. It’s like PAL vs HS. Only criticism in Tristar is schedule the older brackets. Mitchell has lights. Would love to see Express, Bandits and OGs battling it’s out. Especially since so many are teammates in the spring. I think a few college coaches would like to see that as well.


No they absolutely would not, lol

College coaches
Looking for a smaller club team i don't need this AA stuff . My son skills are not that Elite. Not looking for the 2nd or 3rd team to the big organizations prices and not traveling 40 mins to practice with fuel at $5 bucks a gallon . Looking to stay in local tournaments and not going 3 states from Li . Anyone play or no about East coast elite ? Is it Bayport area ? Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a smaller club team i don't need this AA stuff . My son skills are not that Elite. Not looking for the 2nd or 3rd team to the big organizations prices and not traveling 40 mins to practice with fuel at $5 bucks a gallon . Looking to stay in local tournaments and not going 3 states from Li . Anyone play or no about East coast elite ? Is it Bayport area ? Thanks
East Coast Elite is based out of Sayville.
Take a look at Rush they're based in Oakdale Bohemia area.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a smaller club team i don't need this AA stuff . My son skills are not that Elite. Not looking for the 2nd or 3rd team to the big organizations prices and not traveling 40 mins to practice with fuel at $5 bucks a gallon . Looking to stay in local tournaments and not going 3 states from Li . Anyone play or no about East coast elite ? Is it Bayport area ? Thanks

Something you don't see and read much on here . Telling the truth about skill level and doesn’t need the bling . Watch out for those kids 2 yrs those kids may emerge ! Seen it . Believe ECE is Sayville’s Varsity coach or the Director .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a smaller club team i don't need this AA stuff . My son skills are not that Elite. Not looking for the 2nd or 3rd team to the big organizations prices and not traveling 40 mins to practice with fuel at $5 bucks a gallon . Looking to stay in local tournaments and not going 3 states from Li . Anyone play or no about East coast elite ? Is it Bayport area ? Thanks

Ask about Team 24. They just won this weekend
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a smaller club team i don't need this AA stuff . My son skills are not that Elite. Not looking for the 2nd or 3rd team to the big organizations prices and not traveling 40 mins to practice with fuel at $5 bucks a gallon . Looking to stay in local tournaments and not going 3 states from Li . Anyone play or no about East coast elite ? Is it Bayport area ? Thanks

Ask about Team 24. They just won this weekend

Never heard of them ? Same as 24 east ? Idk looking in suffolk area
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looking for a smaller club team i don't need this AA stuff . My son skills are not that Elite. Not looking for the 2nd or 3rd team to the big organizations prices and not traveling 40 mins to practice with fuel at $5 bucks a gallon . Looking to stay in local tournaments and not going 3 states from Li . Anyone play or no about East coast elite ? Is it Bayport area ? Thanks

Ask about Team 24. They just won this weekend

Never heard of them ? Same as 24 east ? Idk looking in suffolk area


Yes same team think they practice out near port Jeff area
Who’s winning Tri Star this weekend???
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who’s winning Tri Star this weekend???


4 Leaf
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who’s winning Tri Star this weekend???


4 Leaf

Is 4 leaf full of reclassified kids ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who’s winning Tri Star this weekend???

CARES
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who’s winning Tri Star this weekend???


4 Leaf

Is 4 leaf full of reclassified kids ?

As long they are in 7th grade it is fine last I checked. I believe this they play lacrosse by grade year.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who’s winning Tri Star this weekend???


4 Leaf

Whoever said this was far off the mark. They had great uniforms though. Awesome uniforms.
9th graders on laxachusetts team def help them win 27 bracket
Originally Posted by Anonymous
9th graders on laxachusetts team def help them win 27 bracket


Lol every time they show up with 9th graders and all the dads beat their chests when they win 😂🤣
Lax Black’s 14/15yos just lost to a much much smaller but more skilled Eclispe team. While pushing Eclipse around at all levels, they were just not good not enough to move on. Thinking they should look to reclass this group another level before the NLF…

Also embarrassing that LI Express lost to their little brothers from up North after having a BIG lead.
Express 2027 has officially become daddy ball paradise ....that along with the grand wizard thinking he knows what he's doing has led to a disaster. Straighten it out or risk losing half the team before tryouts even get here . What a mess
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lax Black’s 14/15yos just lost to a much much smaller but more skilled Eclispe team. While pushing Eclipse around at all levels, they were just not good not enough to move on. Thinking they should look to reclass this group another level before the NLF…

Also embarrassing that LI Express lost to their little brothers from up North after having a BIG lead.

Eclipse is a super talented team. Express is mediocre.
Lol. Express parents are on here all week talking about how Machine gives themselves the easiest bracket and then gets crushed in bracket play. Express those were really tough play in games. Lol. Keep worrying about Trashing “B” teams
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lol. Express parents are on here all week talking about how Machine gives themselves the easiest bracket and then gets crushed in bracket play. Express those were really tough play in games. Lol. Keep worrying about Trashing “B” teams

😂😂😂😂
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lol. Express parents are on here all week talking about how Machine gives themselves the easiest bracket and then gets crushed in bracket play. Express those were really tough play in games. Lol. Keep worrying about Trashing “B” teams


Says the 91 parent that played at lax fest with 91 tri state among a bunch of other horrible teams ....wear the t shirt proudly with your finger in the air
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lol. Express parents are on here all week talking about how Machine gives themselves the easiest bracket and then gets crushed in bracket play. Express those were really tough play in games. Lol. Keep worrying about Trashing “B” teams

😂😂😂😂


Funny that you mention that fool....while you and your B team were playing against horrible B teams at snooze fest in farmingdale .....the real teams were playing in tri star (s2s,eclipse,lax black , express .....etc....) If and by the way express north won the whole thing . Get a clue
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lol. Express parents are on here all week talking about how Machine gives themselves the easiest bracket and then gets crushed in bracket play. Express those were really tough play in games. Lol. Keep worrying about Trashing “B” teams


Says the 91 parent that played at lax fest with 91 tri state among a bunch of other horrible teams ....wear the t shirt proudly with your finger in the air


Someone’s butt hurt 😢
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lol. Express parents are on here all week talking about how Machine gives themselves the easiest bracket and then gets crushed in bracket play. Express those were really tough play in games. Lol. Keep worrying about Trashing “B” teams

😂😂😂😂


Funny that you mention that fool....while you and your B team were playing against horrible B teams at snooze fest in farmingdale .....the real teams were playing in tri star (s2s,eclipse,lax black , express .....etc....) If and by the way express north won the whole thing . Get a clue

Think he was talking about li express 🤦‍♂️
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lol. Express parents are on here all week talking about how Machine gives themselves the easiest bracket and then gets crushed in bracket play. Express those were really tough play in games. Lol. Keep worrying about Trashing “B” teams

😂😂😂😂


Funny that you mention that fool....while you and your B team were playing against horrible B teams at snooze fest in farmingdale .....the real teams were playing in tri star (s2s,eclipse,lax black , express .....etc....) If and by the way express north won the whole thing . Get a clue

Think he was talking about li express 🤦‍♂️


Typical brainless 91 dads worrying about other teams while they play in minor league tournaments. I guess 91 machine needed a week off after a few consecutive disasters the past few weeks?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lol. Express parents are on here all week talking about how Machine gives themselves the easiest bracket and then gets crushed in bracket play. Express those were really tough play in games. Lol. Keep worrying about Trashing “B” teams

😂😂😂😂


Funny that you mention that fool....while you and your B team were playing against horrible B teams at snooze fest in farmingdale .....the real teams were playing in tri star (s2s,eclipse,lax black , express .....etc....) If and by the way express north won the whole thing . Get a clue

Think he was talking about li express 🤦‍♂️


Typical brainless 91 dads worrying about other teams while they play in minor league tournaments. I guess 91 machine needed a week off after a few consecutive disasters the past few weeks?

Did you say minor league 😂😂😂 brainless? 😭 get off the computer your not allowed on the internet anymore
We can admit we are a B team. We never claimed anything else. Don’t worry when you jump ship to your 5th team you you will trash that organization. Maybe it’s not the team, maybe it’s the player
👏👏👏impressive. You played prime time, Calvary and 2 other express teams. We play those same teams and We tied S2S a couple of weeks. Eclipse & the men from Boston are great. Don’t fool yourself about the difficulty of that tournament
Legacy 27 & 28 teams are mediocre, remember when they were a force to be reckoned not too long ago???
What happen to the Legacy Gators team 1-4 . My was considering trying out for them . Anyone know anything about that team ? Alot of change over on that team ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happen to the Legacy Gators team 1-4 . My was considering trying out for them . Anyone know anything about that team ? Alot of change over on that team ?

Practice in East islip , parents are frustrating, high tuition dont pro-form well .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happen to the Legacy Gators team 1-4 . My was considering trying out for them . Anyone know anything about that team ? Alot of change over on that team ?

Talented team but have been Underachieving for awhile now. Lots of turnover for last couple of years
Which Express team is the team that is going to the WS? There are so many Express teams its hard to keep track. Are they even playing any tournaments before the WS?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happen to the Legacy Gators team 1-4 . My was considering trying out for them . Anyone know anything about that team ? Alot of change over on that team ?


Tryouts are a joke. Team is already 98% set year to year. They cannot evaluate talent anyway. Hence Team has been mediocre at best.
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lol. Express parents are on here all week talking about how Machine gives themselves the easiest bracket and then gets crushed in bracket play. Express those were really tough play in games. Lol. Keep worrying about Trashing “B” teams

😂😂😂😂


Funny that you mention that fool....while you and your B team were playing against horrible B teams at snooze fest in farmingdale .....the real teams were playing in tri star (s2s,eclipse,lax black , express .....etc....) If and by the way express north won the whole thing . Get a clue

Think he was talking about li express 🤦‍♂️


Typical brainless 91 dads worrying about other teams while they play in minor league tournaments. I guess 91 machine needed a week off after a few consecutive disasters the past few weeks?

Did you say minor league 😂😂😂 brainless? 😭 get off the computer your not allowed on the internet anymore

You're*

Originally Posted by Anonymous
...Don’t worry when you jump ship to your 5th team you you will trash that organization. Maybe it’s not the team, maybe it’s the player

This is priceless....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
[quote=Anonymous]Lol. Express parents are on here all week talking about how Machine gives themselves the easiest bracket and then gets crushed in bracket play. Express those were really tough play in games. Lol. Keep worrying about Trashing “B” teams

😂😂😂😂


Funny that you mention that fool....while you and your B team were playing against horrible B teams at snooze fest in farmingdale .....the real teams were playing in tri star (s2s,eclipse,lax black , express .....etc....) If and by the way express north won the whole thing . Get a clue

Think he was talking about li express 🤦‍♂️


Typical brainless 91 dads worrying about other teams while they play in minor league tournaments. I guess 91 machine needed a week off after a few consecutive disasters the past few weeks?

Did you say minor league 😂😂😂 brainless? 😭 get off the computer your not allowed on the internet anymore

You're*

Originally Posted by Anonymous
...Don’t worry when you jump ship to your 5th team you you will trash that organization. Maybe it’s not the team, maybe it’s the player

This is priceless....[/quote]


You’re not supposed to be on the internet
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happen to the Legacy Gators team 1-4 . My was considering trying out for them . Anyone know anything about that team ? Alot of change over on that team ?


Tryouts are a joke. Team is already 98% set year to year. They cannot evaluate talent anyway. Hence Team has been mediocre at best.

Still Daddy coaching over there ? Use to be majority east end towns and islip . Delusional parents that hope around and come back . Good no one wants you .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What happen to the Legacy Gators team 1-4 . My was considering trying out for them . Anyone know anything about that team ? Alot of change over on that team ?


Tryouts are a joke. Team is already 98% set year to year. They cannot evaluate talent anyway. Hence Team has been mediocre at best.

Still Daddy coaching over there ? Use to be majority east end towns and islip . Delusional parents that hope around and come back . Good no one wants you .

Pretty much. But only One of them is the big problem. Not the other.
Looks like Kodiak Rush is making a run for their first championship of the season today. They are back on the map 👍.
by back on the map you must mean the B tournament map, where they belong.
Is that your thing?? You log on to this site to see if someone writes something positive about a 13 year old lacrosse team and then you try to belittle them? Man I hope your 13 year old AA player aspires to be just like his dad - bright future ahead!!
the truth stings huh?
Schedule is out for WS, Machine schedule is a joke....as predicted
Not really...we will be fine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like Kodiak Rush is making a run for their first championship of the season today. They are back on the map 👍.

Spare us please. The B team is better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
by back on the map you must mean the B tournament map, where they belong.


How many teams are truly AA on long island? Maybe 3? Machine S2S Express?? Legacy calls themselves that but other than a few exceptions lose all the time to top talent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
by back on the map you must mean the B tournament map, where they belong.


How many teams are truly AA on long island? Maybe 3? Machine S2S Express?? Legacy calls themselves that but other than a few exceptions lose all the time to top talent.

Maybe machine and s2s express got wiped again this past weekend not looking to good .. solid b+ team 😭
As I said several weeks ago! A Long Island Team Will Not Win This Years World Series Of Youth Lacrosse....Far too much talent from across the country. So forget about Express, Team 91, Rush, Legacy and the rest. None are contenders and will just qualify!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like Kodiak Rush is making a run for their first championship of the season today. They are back on the map 👍.

Spare us please. The B team is better.

Most accurate fact of the day.
Machine won in Maryland this past weekend, nice try.
Rage is going to get smoked, hopefully they purchased there WS gear before, it would stink to buy it there after you get hammered every game. Way to look out for your fellow team 91, only Machine gets a bye.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As I said several weeks ago! A Long Island Team Will Not Win This Years World Series Of Youth Lacrosse....Far too much talent from across the country. So forget about Express, Team 91, Rush, Legacy and the rest. None are contenders and will just qualify!

Did you just mention RUSH in a WSYL post?????
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As I said several weeks ago! A Long Island Team Will Not Win This Years World Series Of Youth Lacrosse....Far too much talent from across the country. So forget about Express, Team 91, Rush, Legacy and the rest. None are contenders and will just qualify!

Did you just mention RUSH in a WSYL post?????


😭😭😂😂
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rage is going to get smoked, hopefully they purchased there WS gear before, it would stink to buy it there after you get hammered every game. Way to look out for your fellow team 91, only Machine gets a bye.


We shall see we shall see the problem is machine gets the easy road than goes against solid teams and they flop should be a very interesting weekend but I’m calling eclipse taking it all
Where’d Machine play? Who’s they play??
Machine was at the Millon tourney in MD and didn't really play anyone of note except Team 10 which is half of team PA
Trash. T91 parents gotta start to realize… ur boys are real good, not great and their coaches are not god. Beating trash comp to build confidence land getting slapped when it matters. Something’s weird with this LI 27 group.
Naptown Championship tomorrow: BBL vs Team PA. Two excellent teams. Naptown had some very high quality teams. Possible preview to World Series.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Trash. T91 parents gotta start to realize… ur boys are real good, not great and their coaches are not god. Beating trash comp to build confidence land getting slapped when it matters. Something’s weird with this LI 27 group.

Are any of the coaches, just coaches? Or do they all have a son on the team?
Eclipse Machine Kings and BBL can ALL win it, it’s wide open. Express played their Curry hand early - teams adjusted. No one’s worried about one player. (Although he’s awesome!)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Eclipse Machine Kings and BBL can ALL win it, it’s wide open. Express played their Curry hand early - teams adjusted. No one’s worried about one player. (Although he’s awesome!)


Agreed . A live feed will be available to watch the championship
Good luck to all the boys playing in the WSL games this weekend.

May the best team win and I hope everyone stays positive and enjoys this special experience to make a wonderful memory.

Thank you to WSL for stepping in to give my son this age based experience.
Good luck to all the teams participating in the World Series .
For all you Team #91 fans, Day 1 of the WSYL:
Team #91 Rage 0-2
Team #91 Machine 1-2

Hopefully tomorrow is an easier day!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all you Team #91 fans, Day 1 of the WSYL:
Team #91 Rage 0-2
Team #91 Machine 1-2

Hopefully tomorrow is an easier day!

And Express 2-0!
Express is mediocre
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For all you Team #91 fans, Day 1 of the WSYL:
Team #91 Rage 0-2
Team #91 Machine 1-2

Hopefully tomorrow is an easier day!


Obsessed much 🤣🤣 relax jimmy
Let the boys enjoy the experience .. we know your angry about something but focus on the boys let them soak it all in and have a good time. May the best team win
Team Pa aka the small penis dad crew
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Let the boys enjoy the experience .. we know your angry about something but focus on the boys let them soak it all in and have a good time. May the best team win

You’ve finally calmed yourself down now that you see your team is very good but not dominant like you thought?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Let the boys enjoy the experience .. we know your angry about something but focus on the boys let them soak it all in and have a good time. May the best team win

You’ve finally calmed yourself down now that you see your team is very good but not dominant like you thought?


Negative never thought they were dominant but it’s easy for all you grown ups to get your undies in a bunch and it seems like all the teams are having a blast. Remember it’s about the kiddos so stop pounding your chests in here 😭
Sounds right
It would be very funny if the team pa small d line was from a 91 parent…
FYI - (laughable that you’re a moderator here) you were the first person to come in here as strong as possible and claim that 91 Machine was the best. Funny seeing you back your talk down now. Enjoy the tournament. Hopefully someone can offer you a good psychologist soon.
I’m super confused about the 91 / express debate. Seems like a person from NY arguing with a person from NJ about which one is better. Everyone knows which one is better.
Says the fonzanoon!
I have been following this from the Social Media side and it looks like US Club Lax has made the product better than it’s predecessors.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FYI - (laughable that you’re a moderator here) you were the first person to come in here as strong as possible and claim that 91 Machine was the best. Funny seeing you back your talk down now. Enjoy the tournament. Hopefully someone can offer you a good psychologist soon.


😭😭 well said Brad
well said Brad!?!?!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team Pa aka the small penis dad crew
Awww poor 91 dad upset your boy’s team got beat in the opening round! Can’t even use the holdback excuse this time…and to a team from PA no less. What will they say back on the Island LOL!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
well said Brad!?!?!

Karen?
Lets Go out of NY state team to WIN !!!
Future looks like this Rage team Will dismantle or wont be anything anymore. Movement to different cheaper more convenient teams locally. Why pay the 4k price tags for igloo 91 legacy and team not going anywhere. Parents that live Through their kids sorry the world series was a failure and money grab .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Future looks like this Rage team Will dismantle or wont be anything anymore. Movement to different cheaper more convenient teams locally. Why pay the 4k price tags for igloo 91 legacy and team not going anywhere. Parents that live Through their kids sorry the world series was a failure and money grab .



Are you upset lol kids are having a great time
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Future looks like this Rage team Will dismantle or wont be anything anymore. Movement to different cheaper more convenient teams locally. Why pay the 4k price tags for igloo 91 legacy and team not going anywhere. Parents that live Through their kids sorry the world series was a failure and money grab .



Are you upset lol kids are having a great time

How are you replying to posts that your are blocking???
Team Mass looked incredible the first two days. Does anyone know what club/clubs those kids are coming from?
Why you wanna leave Rage and be a distance player because your from L.i . Sorry folks Li lacrosse not the HOT BED you think it is .
T Mass is Laxachusetts and 4 Leaf mostly. Some others but that’s like 90% I understand.

Played Eclispe real close twice in the qualifier but lost both.
really your a parent with millennial lingo?!?! WOW
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team Pa aka the small penis dad crew

Hold on, what?
Bearded Kaos good hash tag for a stunad that just is seeking to agitate!!
WSL doing a fantastic job. Athletic fields, parking, officials and competition are the best I have ever seen. Everyone is very positive and enjoying the experience. This event has been amazing and I know will only get better. Thank you WSL.
They’re Laxachusetts and a few 3D NE players
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bearded Kaos good hash tag for a stunad that just is seeking to agitate!!

Why thank you 😊
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WSL doing a fantastic job. Athletic fields, parking, officials and competition are the best I have ever seen. Everyone is very positive and enjoying the experience. This event has been amazing and I know will only get better. Thank you WSL.


How it should be let the kids enjoy it
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WSL doing a fantastic job. Athletic fields, parking, officials and competition are the best I have ever seen. Everyone is very positive and enjoying the experience. This event has been amazing and I know will only get better. Thank you WSL.


How it should be let the kids enjoy it

Exactly. Tomorrow should be great. The best teams made it to quarters. I could see 6 different teams winning.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team Pa aka the small penis dad crew

Hold on, what?

Yeah can this be discussed?
Laxachusetts and 3D NE: no other clubs
How many Machine coaches aloud on sideline ? We know long hair and screaming Spitting dip loud mouth . Terrible people ..
The championship game is on the US Club Lax YouTube channel
The is championship is 100% here to stay. The best thing about this is that it is 100% fair…every kid is age appropriate. I LOVE THAT. Look at the parity and level of play. And how many teams can win this! I would say the ideal set up is age until U15, basically during the first year of HS level it goes grade. They are playing vs older kids and more mature physically. But will never happen on the club level, unless NLF steps up and shocks everyone. But my guess they aren’t messing with the business model and let the Wild West roll on. The PAL directors actually voted on it a few years back and it failed. SMH.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many Machine coaches aloud on sideline ? We know long hair and screaming Spitting dip loud mouth . Terrible people ..

And in your mug
I guess the haters need to pipe down now! Win lose or draw, this is a great event.
Wheres the Maryland Teams ?
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS
Let’s go Long Island 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼🏆🏆🏆
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS

Guess you should learn the difference between pool and bracket play.
Tie Breakers will be as follows,Within Pools: Record, Head to Head, Goals Allowed, Goal Differential, Goals Scored, Coin Flip
Tie Breakers within Divisions: Record, Pool Place, Goals Allowed, Goal Differential, Goals Scored, Coin Flip


How did team 91 get in the playoffs and pa did not?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS

Lol. It’s how a tournament works. You beat one team but lose to another you may not make the playoff bracket. Where is the BS?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS


😭😭😭😭
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS


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Classy, especially from a moderator
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tie Breakers will be as follows,Within Pools: Record, Head to Head, Goals Allowed, Goal Differential, Goals Scored, Coin Flip
Tie Breakers within Divisions: Record, Pool Place, Goals Allowed, Goal Differential, Goals Scored, Coin Flip


How did team 91 get in the playoffs and pa did not?

Three teams go 3-1 and all lost to one another. So you go to goals allowed. PA allowed most of the 3. So they are out
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS


😭😭😭😭


Classy, especially from a moderator
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS


😭😭😭😭


Classy, especially from a moderator


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Oh man, this board is going to be insufferable the next few days. Great game by both BBL and 91.
Hahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahaters!!!!
Congratulations 91 Machine
Wonder what will be said about 91 now 😭
It was a great game and kudos to bbl one heck of a team
LI 91 Machine Pony Tail Coach on field screaming and spitting. Disgusting Display. LI can't buy Class 🤣😂
LI 91 Machine Pony Tail Coach on field screaming and spitting. Disgusting Display. LI can't buy Class 🤣😂
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many Machine coaches aloud on sideline ? We know long hair and screaming Spitting dip loud mouth . Terrible people ..

And in your mug

Would you expect any less from LI 🤣😂
LI 91 Machine Pony Tail Coach on field screaming and spitting. Disgusting Display. LI can't buy Class 🤣😂
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many Machine coaches aloud on sideline ? We know long hair and screaming Spitting dip loud mouth . Terrible people ..

And in your mug

Would you expect any less from LI 🤣😂
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Wonder what will be said about 91 now 😭

Nothing hopefully. They earned it. And it was a great playoff bracket that any team could have one. They dug in and earned it. Goalie was amazing!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The is championship is 100% here to stay. The best thing about this is that it is 100% fair…every kid is age appropriate. I LOVE THAT. Look at the parity and level of play. And how many teams can win this! I would say the ideal set up is age until U15, basically during the first year of HS level it goes grade. They are playing vs older kids and more mature physically. But will never happen on the club level, unless NLF steps up and shocks everyone. But my guess they aren’t messing with the business model and let the Wild West roll on. The PAL directors actually voted on it a few years back and it failed. SMH.

100% agree. Congrats to WSL for doing an amazing job and to all the kids and teams who competed this weekend. Amazing memories we will carry with us for life. THANK YOU!

Congrats to Team 91 and LI. You truly earned it.
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
It was a great game and kudos to bbl one heck of a team

Was it televised?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI 91 Machine Pony Tail Coach on field screaming and spitting. Disgusting Display. LI can't buy Class 🤣😂
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many Machine coaches aloud on sideline ? We know long hair and screaming Spitting dip loud mouth . Terrible people ..

And in your mug

Would you expect any less from LI 🤣😂

Sure - whatever dude
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
It was a great game and kudos to bbl one heck of a team

Was it televised?

US Club LAX’s YouTube Channel had it live. Non 91 guy here but they own this tourney. They find a way to win it it seems. 20,23,24,25,27. Express has 22 and 26, and Legacy has ‘21. I honestly thought a non LI team would take it this year with all the parity at the top. I suspect a loaded Maryland team may finally show up next year.

This was far and away the most competitive year.
Now 91 is 6k a year next season !!! A big Thank you , Free for Machine
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
It was a great game and kudos to bbl one heck of a team

Was it televised?

US Club LAX’s YouTube Channel had it live. Non 91 guy here but they own this tourney. They find a way to win it it seems. 20,23,24,25,27. Express has 22 and 26, and Legacy has ‘21. I honestly thought a non LI team would take it this year with all the parity at the top. I suspect a loaded Maryland team may finally show up next year.

This was far and away the most competitive year.

Maryland teams tried last year; not the same when their age ineligible kids have to stand on the sidelines.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
LI 91 Machine Pony Tail Coach on field screaming and spitting. Disgusting Display. LI can't buy Class 🤣😂

Ahhh sounds like an express Dad that boughT CoachC Bucks BS Looossseerrr
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS


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Classy, especially from a moderator

Typical philly losers come in 11th place and complain about the Champs.
You've got to be kidding me! The competition at this years tournament was not even close to that of last years tournament! The teams were nothing more than average! Better talent in past years...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You've got to be kidding me! The competition at this years tournament was not even close to that of last years tournament! The teams were nothing more than average! Better talent in past years...

Get a life
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You've got to be kidding me! The competition at this years tournament was not even close to that of last years tournament! The teams were nothing more than average! Better talent in past years...

Competition wasn't that good . I coach a smaller LI organization club team and couple kids on my team has the skills to play with any Machine kid . If you see the Machine about 9/10 Massapequa kids on the team .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You've got to be kidding me! The competition at this years tournament was not even close to that of last years tournament! The teams were nothing more than average! Better talent in past years...

I’m starting to feel bad for you
Express is a decent club, 91 is better overall. Change my mind
Great comment, super smart & definitely not dense at all. Just stellar in the midst of todays events. Spot on!
Since you like to update the fans can you please enlighten us as to who won it all and who got smoked in the 1st round? Pls, it’s for the fans.
The only numbers relevant to express are not 22 & 26 but rather 50 & 99. 50 loudmouth, whiny parents yelling “give it to Brody(99)” And maybe 100+ for the amount incessant posts they make trying to discredit 91.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tie Breakers will be as follows,Within Pools: Record, Head to Head, Goals Allowed, Goal Differential, Goals Scored, Coin Flip
Tie Breakers within Divisions: Record, Pool Place, Goals Allowed, Goal Differential, Goals Scored, Coin Flip


How did team 91 get in the playoffs and pa did not?

Three teams go 3-1 and all lost to one another. So you go to goals allowed. PA allowed most of the 3. So they are out

Team PA should have been in main bracket total joke. Why only 2 teams just take top 10 teams with record, goals allowed. They had same record as Machine and beat them head to head. Definitely top 10 team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tie Breakers will be as follows,Within Pools: Record, Head to Head, Goals Allowed, Goal Differential, Goals Scored, Coin Flip
Tie Breakers within Divisions: Record, Pool Place, Goals Allowed, Goal Differential, Goals Scored, Coin Flip


How did team 91 get in the playoffs and pa did not?

Three teams go 3-1 and all lost to one another. So you go to goals allowed. PA allowed most of the 3. So they are out

Team PA should have been in main bracket total joke. Why only 2 teams just take top 10 teams with record, goals allowed. They had same record as Machine and beat them head to head. Definitely top 10 team.

Go look at the tiebreaker rules. They were explained earlier in this thread. Give it a rest already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express is a decent club, 91 is better overall. Change my mind


Express beat 91 machine 9-4 in the spring . Mind changed
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS


How about machine getting the cakewalk in playing true Annapolis lol....while express, bbl and eclipse had to play the game of knockout . BBL had to get through express and eclipse to get to the finals and we're spent . World series director stankiwoos in bed with 91. May as well not even played the final and handed 91 their medals and left.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The only numbers relevant to express are not 22 & 26 but rather 50 & 99. 50 loudmouth, whiny parents yelling “give it to Brody(99)” And maybe 100+ for the amount incessant posts they make trying to discredit 91.


How about the 91 coach using his typical stall tactic when 91 was losing against BBL? Start arguing with the ref and jumping up and down so the ref stops play for 2 minutes while he argues with you , try to intimidate 13 year olds and change the momentum of the game .typical 91 trash
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS


How about machine getting the cakewalk in playing true Annapolis lol....while express, bbl and eclipse had to play the game of knockout . BBL had to get through express and eclipse to get to the finals and we're spent . World series director stankiwoos in bed with 91. May as well not even played the final and handed 91 their medals and left.


another guy who can’t understand tiebreaker rules and how they affect seeding.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS


How about machine getting the cakewalk in playing true Annapolis lol....while express, bbl and eclipse had to play the game of knockout . BBL had to get through express and eclipse to get to the finals and we're spent . World series director stankiwoos in bed with 91. May as well not even played the final and handed 91 their medals and left.


another guy who can’t understand tiebreaker rules and how they affect seeding.


Genius, explain to us how bbl, express , and eclipse all had higher seeding than machine coming into the World Series but somehow machine gets to play true Annapolis in the first round while bbl has to play express and then eclipse ? You can say whatever you want about the rules …..but for a lower seed to be playing an even lower seed in the first round of the elimination games while two of the top seeds have to play each other and knock each other out makes no sense whatsoever
Hahaha I love this! 91 Machine is the best on age team in the World and the club is by far the best lacrosse program in the country! stink it! Tell little Timmy and the rest of those mutts to keep practicing! Crush, Bandits, Wolfpack, Shock and now Machine take there rightful place on top of the lacrosse mountain.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA beat Machine but not in Semis . Totally BS


How about machine getting the cakewalk in playing true Annapolis lol....while express, bbl and eclipse had to play the game of knockout . BBL had to get through express and eclipse to get to the finals and we're spent . World series director stankiwoos in bed with 91. May as well not even played the final and handed 91 their medals and left.


another guy who can’t understand tiebreaker rules and how they affect seeding.


Genius, explain to us how bbl, express , and eclipse all had higher seeding than machine coming into the World Series but somehow machine gets to play true Annapolis in the first round while bbl has to play express and then eclipse ? You can say whatever you want about the rules …..but for a lower seed to be playing an even lower seed in the first round of the elimination games while two of the top seeds have to play each other and knock each other out makes no sense whatsoever


Seeding for bracket play on day 3 (yesterday) was determined by pool play results on the previous 2 days, not some qualifiers back in march. Check your tiebreakers. Tourney machine has all the results from each day allowing you to do so. Check the Goals Allowed on each team. That’s the tiebreaker that put teams higher/lower than one would think.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha I love this! 91 Machine is the best on age team in the World and the club is by far the best lacrosse program in the country! stink it! Tell little Timmy and the rest of those mutts to keep practicing! Crush, Bandits, Wolfpack, Shock and now Machine take there rightful place on top of the lacrosse mountain.

Typical 91 parent. Maybe learn the difference between there and their instead of beating your chest over a 13 year old lacrosse game.
It's a bummer these kids didn't get the WSYL experience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express is a decent club, 91 is better overall. Change my mind

Don’t need to change your mind. They all offer the same product and all copycat one another. So what do you use to grade a club? Is it to be on the best team? Cost? Directors actually talk to the customers? Playing time? Roster size? College recruiting when ready? Because when you really look at the best clubs by HS grade on LI, which is when things level out..it is the 2023 S2S OGs, 2024 Legacy, 2025 91, 2026 Express. They all cost about the same, they all will have multiple recruits (S2S has 14 I think) and they all have great coaching. But that is just for the privileged A teams. For me, I think the best club is one that gives equal treatment to all their teams. In fact, because the big clubs have fallen down on that, we have 2nd tier clubs because they are B level, but sold as an A team. And second, I think a great club is one that sizes their roster correctly.
Wasn’t BBL up 5-0?

How about machine getting the cakewalk in playing true Annapolis lol....while express, bbl and eclipse had to play the game of knockout . BBL had to get through express and eclipse to get to the finals and we're spent . World series director stankiwoos in bed with 91. May as well not even played the final and handed 91 their medals and left.[/quote]
Team PA should have been in main bracket total joke. Why only 2 teams just take top 10 teams with record, goals allowed. They had same record as Machine and beat them head to head. Definitely top 10 team.[/quote]

Everyone had the same info handed out at the beginning, team pa should have brought a better d unit as goals allowed was the next tie breaker…. Give credit to team pa for being the only team that beat 91 but also give credit to 91, they won it all
Congratulations to the kids on team 91, seemed like a hard fought win in the end . As for the coaches and parents, they're still top of the heap trash bags....and trust me nobody wants to be you and nobody is jealous of you . You're a sad bunch of trashy adults . Kids won and they should be proud of that despite the trash bag parents and coaches .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA should have been in main bracket total joke. Why only 2 teams just take top 10 teams with record, goals allowed. They had same record as Machine and beat them head to head. Definitely top 10 team.

Everyone had the same info handed out at the beginning, team pa should have brought a better d unit as goals allowed was the next tie breaker…. Give credit to team pa for being the only team that beat 91 but also give credit to 91, they won it all[/quote]

PA had 7th fewest goals allowed in tourney and were in toughest bracket so that logic feeds in to why they should have been in. Only 2 from same division is not way to do it when they seed it by goals allowed. Would love to know what happened to them vs True makes zero sense. Beat Machine and 2Way very good teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA should have been in main bracket total joke. Why only 2 teams just take top 10 teams with record, goals allowed. They had same record as Machine and beat them head to head. Definitely top 10 team.

Everyone had the same info handed out at the beginning, team pa should have brought a better d unit as goals allowed was the next tie breaker…. Give credit to team pa for being the only team that beat 91 but also give credit to 91, they won it all

PA had 7th fewest goals allowed in tourney and were in toughest bracket so that logic feeds in to why they should have been in. Only 2 from same division is not way to do it when they seed it by goals allowed. Would love to know what happened to them vs True makes zero sense. Beat Machine and 2Way very good teams.[/quote]

1st tiebreaker for divisions was record. That gave 1 & 2 seed to Eclipse and Team MA, netting them opposite sides of bracket and a 1st round bye as well.

2nd tiebreaker was “Pool Place”. Team Pa finished 3rd in pool play which did them in and eliminated them for Bracket selection when there were only 10 teams in bracket play.


In regards to the pool to determine place:
1st tiebreaker was head to head. But top 3 teams beat each other, PA beat Machine, Machine beat Annapolis, Annapolis beat PA. That creates a never ending circle so here comes the 2nd tiebreaker: GOALS ALLOWED. Machine allowed 14, Annapolis allowed 20 and PA allowed 21. PA was put in 3rd place in pool play because they let up 1 more goal than Annapolis. It was that close.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team PA should have been in main bracket total joke. Why only 2 teams just take top 10 teams with record, goals allowed. They had same record as Machine and beat them head to head. Definitely top 10 team.

Everyone had the same info handed out at the beginning, team pa should have brought a better d unit as goals allowed was the next tie breaker…. Give credit to team pa for being the only team that beat 91 but also give credit to 91, they won it all

PA had 7th fewest goals allowed in tourney and were in toughest bracket so that logic feeds in to why they should have been in. Only 2 from same division is not way to do it when they seed it by goals allowed. Would love to know what happened to them vs True makes zero sense. Beat Machine and 2Way very good teams.[/quote]
If that was the structure of the tournament, that's the way it goes. taking the top 2 of each pool is how the World Cup is done as well. The only change Id Suggest is the top 10 ranked teams overall out of pool play. But youd have arguments of stronger versus weaker pools.

Win your games and control what you can. Everyone knew the format going in.
How did team 91 get in the playoffs and pa did not?[/quote]

Three teams go 3-1 and all lost to one another. So you go to goals allowed. PA allowed most of the 3. So they are out[/quote]

Team PA should have been in main bracket total joke. Why only 2 teams just take top 10 teams with record, goals allowed. They had same record as Machine and beat them head to head. Definitely top 10 team.[/quote]

Stop embarrassing yourself. Take the L, move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn’t BBL up 5-0?

How about machine getting the cakewalk in playing true Annapolis lol....while express, bbl and eclipse had to play the game of knockout . BBL had to get through express and eclipse to get to the finals and we're spent . World series director stankiwoos in bed with 91. May as well not even played the final and handed 91 their medals and left.
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Team 91 looks for the assist second half. BBL went to dodges and not looking for the assist. Ball moves faster than the player.
WSL was a great event. Outstanding experience with on age kids, great officials, and perfect facilities. Congrats to Team 91. You earned it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WSL was a great event. Outstanding experience with on age kids, great officials, and perfect facilities. Congrats to Team 91. You earned it.

WSL was fine. My older son played WSYL 2 years ago and younger son got to play this year. Overall experience was night and day and this year's event didn't come close. Hopefully WSYL returns with all the bells and whistles and sponsors. Or maybe folks get together and figure out a better way forward to give the 13us a first-class experience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WSL was a great event. Outstanding experience with on age kids, great officials, and perfect facilities. Congrats to Team 91. You earned it.

WSL was fine. My older son played WSYL 2 years ago and younger son got to play this year. Overall experience was night and day and this year's event didn't come close. Hopefully WSYL returns with all the bells and whistles and sponsors. Or maybe folks get together and figure out a better way forward to give the 13us a first-class experience.

If it wasn’t for WSL jumping in, my son would never have had the U13 experience of playing on age kids from all over the country. I’d also argue the competition was equally as good as years past, minus Maryland teams, given the many 3-1 records and one goal games. Not comparing to WSYL, but WSL was hands down the best tournament my kid has ever played in. I am sure WSL event will only get better. Be great to find some other tournaments with great competition and also the good vibes for the entire family.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express is a decent club, 91 is better overall. Change my mind

Don’t need to change your mind. They all offer the same product and all copycat one another. So what do you use to grade a club? Is it to be on the best team? Cost? Directors actually talk to the customers? Playing time? Roster size? College recruiting when ready? Because when you really look at the best clubs by HS grade on LI, which is when things level out..it is the 2023 S2S OGs, 2024 Legacy, 2025 91, 2026 Express. They all cost about the same, they all will have multiple recruits (S2S has 14 I think) and they all have great coaching. But that is just for the privileged A teams. For me, I think the best club is one that gives equal treatment to all their teams. In fact, because the big clubs have fallen down on that, we have 2nd tier clubs because they are B level, but sold as an A team. And second, I think a great club is one that sizes their roster correctly.

The best club is the one that fits your kids need. What’s good for one is not good for another. All players are different different skill level. Different personalities different students etc. the end game is not going to be the same for all the kids. You need to place your child in the best situation for their personal growth. For some that may be one of the lesser known clubs.
All the top clubs have double digit recruits each year. They also have kids that played on the those top teams that don’t get recruited. Don’t get blinded by the shiny name. That said the shiny name clubs may be the best fit for some and will help those kids tremendously. Choose carefully don’t worry about the name worry about what’s best for your kid
Congrats to Team PA beating 91 and half the cost of tuition . Team PA won great job boys !! Enough said
True Annapolis added kids from other clubs to fill out their roster, there were a variety of helmets on that team. Their only losses in the event were to BBL (twice) in the regional and Machine (twice) this weekend. Beating PA seems reasonable in that light. Seeding these teams for pool play seems very inexact given how different many of the rosters are from normal.
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.
If team pa just beat true during pool play, you would be in the champ bracket... You lost 7-1. Maybe you are the joke!
Loud mouth dip spitter wasn’t on the coaching staff so he couldn’t have been on the sidelines!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrats to Team PA beating 91 and half the cost of tuition . Team PA won great job boys !! Enough said


Words of a true sore lost 😂😂😂😂 try again o wait you can’t
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.

C’mon every club has this holdbacks. Including the major LI clubs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Loud mouth dip spitter wasn’t on the coaching staff so he couldn’t have been on the sidelines!

Use of tobacco by a coach or player of any kind is a penalty.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrats to Team PA beating 91 and half the cost of tuition . Team PA won great job boys !! Enough said

Jersey Express beat BBL in the pool play. Maybe the WSL should have skipped bracket play and just let those 2 play a title game….give it up already.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congrats to Team PA beating 91 and half the cost of tuition . Team PA won great job boys !! Enough said

Jersey Express beat BBL in the pool play. Maybe the WSL should have skipped bracket play and just let those 2 play a title game….give it up already.

Team PA did not understand rules obviously which is on them.
Now does Rage and Express players go elsewhere
because world series is done and disappointing performance ?
Congrats to Team PA beating 91 and half the cost of tuition . Team PA won great job boys !! Enough said[/quote]

Pretty sure I saw those team pa kids with a bunch of different helmets, I can only assume that they are paying for team pa and another team do your point is pointless
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now does Rage and Express players go elsewhere
because world series is done and disappointing performance ?


I wouldn't put rage and express in the same sentence. Rage squeaked in with a nine sead and went 0-4. Express was one of the top teams and lost to bbl (who went to the final )by one goal in the last minute of their game . Losing to bbl by one goal in the final minute while machine beat them by one goal in the final minute is hardly a disappointment that would have people running for the exits .

Rage on the other hand had their fogo taken from them two weeks before the qualifiers for machine . Machine really pissed a lot of rage parents off and there is no turning back. Things have gotten ugly and I would be surprised if they keep any if that team together.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now does Rage and Express players go elsewhere
because world series is done and disappointing performance ?

Chaos until tenth grade
Machine didn't take Rage F/O . That F/O main mission was crack that Machine Roster .
Guess he put himself on the roster?….Way to be a team player leaving 2 weeks before the start of Rages most important season…nothing but class in youth lax 😂😂😂
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine didn't take Rage F/O . That F/O main mission was crack that Machine Roster .


Should have cracked it at tryouts in July not two weeks before the world series qualifiers. Screwed rage and people were furious and rightfully so....let's see who has the courage to leave like they said they would.
Keep in mind that no one would dispute an organization like 91 would have a higher percentage of D1 recruits vs their total membership however many players from other organizations fill d1 rosters also. Not going into d2 3 etc. If your son is a ttemendous player he'll make it even if you choose a team with less fluff but maybe less headache
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep in mind that no one would dispute an organization like 91 would have a higher percentage of D1 recruits vs their total membership however many players from other organizations fill d1 rosters also. Not going into d2 3 etc. If your son is a ttemendous player he'll make it even if you choose a team with less fluff but maybe less headache


Sounds like the rebels are trying hard on here to recruit some unhappy people for tryouts lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine didn't take Rage F/O . That F/O main mission was crack that Machine Roster .


Should have cracked it at tryouts in July not two weeks before the world series qualifiers. Screwed rage and people were furious and rightfully so....let's see who has the courage to leave like they said they would.

Oh no they were so Furious . Furious to who ? With other parents and wont say a word to the Organization and directors because “YOU” dont wanna be “THAT” parent . All sideline talk to other parents . Buy YOU will tryout once again and once again have an increase for your B Team and pay 5k plus AGAIN !!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep in mind that no one would dispute an organization like 91 would have a higher percentage of D1 recruits vs their total membership however many players from other organizations fill d1 rosters also. Not going into d2 3 etc. If your son is a ttemendous player he'll make it even if you choose a team with less fluff but maybe less headache


Sounds like the rebels are trying hard on here to recruit some unhappy people for tryouts lol

No. The person said less headache.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Keep in mind that no one would dispute an organization like 91 would have a higher percentage of D1 recruits vs their total membership however many players from other organizations fill d1 rosters also. Not going into d2 3 etc. If your son is a ttemendous player he'll make it even if you choose a team with less fluff but maybe less headache

Who cares about college D1 lacrosse. Does anyone ? Barley any scholarship money that brings no fans to the game. Ever see a March April d1 game no one is in the stands and no one really cares about the dead end sport .

Sounds like you should not be in the stands then, leave the stands to the happy people we have. good plan.
Too much bitterness out there and on this thread . My son plays lacrosse because he loves it and I like it for him because it's a great supplement to his academics which will always be first . Along the way he is making friendships even across the field with opposing players . There is a mutual respect among some of the kids now and that's fun to see. Life is too short to be so bitter ,just do what makes your son happy regardless of where he plays . It's a simple thing to do ..just ask him " are you having fun "...if the answer is yes then continue as is if not then make a change . But still no reason to be so bitter . The bitter parents are obvious and it spills over to their kids . Sad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Keep in mind that no one would dispute an organization like 91 would have a higher percentage of D1 recruits vs their total membership however many players from other organizations fill d1 rosters also. Not going into d2 3 etc. If your son is a ttemendous player he'll make it even if you choose a team with less fluff but maybe less headache

Anyone that has any knowledge at all about high level lacrosse ( D1, NESCAC, etc ) knows that lacrosse is a Very tight knit community. You may not be making millions after college, but you’ll set yourself up for a great career with the contacts you make from here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Guess he put himself on the roster?….Way to be a team player leaving 2 weeks before the start of Rages most important season…nothing but class in youth lax 😂😂😂


Too bad. Machine demoted a kid about 2 weeks before qualifier
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.

C’mon every club has this holdbacks. Including the major LI clubs.

Nope. Especially ot wsyl.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.


91 dominates what exactly? Winning by one goal in the last few seconds of a game is hardly dominating. They also got smoked weeks before at consecutive tournaments . So relax guy . Enjoy your wsyl moment that nobody will remember in a few weeks lol. And watch your players leave because they're not developing. Word on the street is some machine players are leaving regardless of winning wsyl. And rage is all leaving .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.


91 dominates what exactly? Winning by one goal in the last few seconds of a game is hardly dominating. They also got smoked weeks before at consecutive tournaments . So relax guy . Enjoy your wsyl moment that nobody will remember in a few weeks lol. And watch your players leave because they're not developing. Word on the street is some machine players are leaving regardless of winning wsyl. And rage is all leaving .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.


91 dominates what exactly? Winning by one goal in the last few seconds of a game is hardly dominating. They also got smoked weeks before at consecutive tournaments . So relax guy . Enjoy your wsyl moment that nobody will remember in a few weeks lol. And watch your players leave because they're not developing. Word on the street is some machine players are leaving regardless of winning wsyl. And rage is all leaving .


I don’t like 91 parents but that 27 team can pass and they value the assist. Your roster has to be full of kids that can catch and pass under duress. BBL didn’t have that. Team 91 can swing the rock better than most.
Parents are insane.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.


91 dominates what exactly? Winning by one goal in the last few seconds of a game is hardly dominating. They also got smoked weeks before at consecutive tournaments . So relax guy . Enjoy your wsyl moment that nobody will remember in a few weeks lol. And watch your players leave because they're not developing. Word on the street is some machine players are leaving regardless of winning wsyl. And rage is all leaving .

Where are they going? Who is better? Smh
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.

C’mon every club has this holdbacks. Including the major LI clubs.

Nope. Especially ot wsyl.

Look at the ranked players the last three years. All older and all from major clubs.
Parents and coaches on the 27 Machine are out of control. Rubs off on the kids too, as they are one of the worst trash taking teams I have seen. Need to be taught to win with class as they are going to lose a lot in the upcoming years and what goes around comes around. Two one goal wins, games could have gone either way, losses in the two previous tournaments and a hard road at NLF…Machine isn’t Gods gift to lacrosse like they think they are.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.

C’mon every club has this holdbacks. Including the major LI clubs.

Nope. Especially ot wsyl.

Look at the ranked players the last three years. All older and all from major clubs.

Of course the top ranked players come from the big clubs. The big clubs give them free tuition so they can be one of the top teams. Then they carry extra players to cover those kids free tuition. When the top team of an organization wins. They can charge the same amount for a second and third team. Make even more money
I can tell you for fact that the top 3-5 players are getting a free ride or reduce ride This also helps come recruiting time. The more D1 commits the better.
Demoted a kid? What does that mean?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Demoted a kid? What does that mean?


Moved from A to B calll it whatever u want
Kid wanted to go for more playing time!!!
kids wasn’t demoted he asked to play for Rage to get more playing. That stunad needs to get his facts straight.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.


91 dominates what exactly? Winning by one goal in the last few seconds of a game is hardly dominating. They also got smoked weeks before at consecutive tournaments . So relax guy . Enjoy your wsyl moment that nobody will remember in a few weeks lol. And watch your players leave because they're not developing. Word on the street is some machine players are leaving regardless of winning wsyl. And rage is all leaving .

Where are they going? Who is better? Smh


For your information I know of at least 3 kids leaving machine . One of which is one of their best players . Also, in the rumor mill is that machine isn't going to the NLF...one of the biggest tournaments of the season because they don't want to lose and have everyone wipe away their good memories from the world series . Amazing....a bunch of parents/coaches that talk tuff but behind the scenes are running scared of losing a tournament. Unbelievable but not surprised
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.


91 dominates what exactly? Winning by one goal in the last few seconds of a game is hardly dominating. They also got smoked weeks before at consecutive tournaments . So relax guy . Enjoy your wsyl moment that nobody will remember in a few weeks lol. And watch your players leave because they're not developing. Word on the street is some machine players are leaving regardless of winning wsyl. And rage is all leaving .

Where are they going? Who is better? Smh


You're a brainless fool ....nobody cares who won a tournament. The smarter parents are more concerned about development and playing time . And as such , more than a few machine players are leaving and that's a FACT
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.


91 dominates what exactly? Winning by one goal in the last few seconds of a game is hardly dominating. They also got smoked weeks before at consecutive tournaments . So relax guy . Enjoy your wsyl moment that nobody will remember in a few weeks lol. And watch your players leave because they're not developing. Word on the street is some machine players are leaving regardless of winning wsyl. And rage is all leaving .

Where are they going? Who is better? Smh


Why isn't machine going to the closing NLF....the biggest tournament of the season and a tournament for which they are a founding member ? Let's hear this great excuse lol
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.


91 dominates what exactly? Winning by one goal in the last few seconds of a game is hardly dominating. They also got smoked weeks before at consecutive tournaments . So relax guy . Enjoy your wsyl moment that nobody will remember in a few weeks lol. And watch your players leave because they're not developing. Word on the street is some machine players are
leaving regardless of winning wsyl. And rage is all leaving .

Especially the cost of that club and practice where in Nassau ? Families sit on the southern state and Lie $5 a gallon gas prices ? Many good well coached teams out east . To name a couple Empire , East Coast Elite .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.


91 dominates what exactly? Winning by one goal in the last few seconds of a game is hardly dominating. They also got smoked weeks before at consecutive tournaments . So relax guy . Enjoy your wsyl moment that nobody will remember in a few weeks lol. And watch your players leave because they're not developing. Word on the street is some machine players are
leaving regardless of winning wsyl. And rage is all leaving .

Especially the cost of that club and practice where in Nassau ? Families sit on the southern state and Lie $5 a gallon gas prices ? Many good well coached teams out east . To name a couple Empire , East Coast Elite .


Thank dynamic director for pushing your "other clubs " as options out east lol....cant make this stuff up
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.


91 dominates what exactly? Winning by one goal in the last few seconds of a game is hardly dominating. They also got smoked weeks before at consecutive tournaments . So relax guy . Enjoy your wsyl moment that nobody will remember in a few weeks lol. And watch your players leave because they're not developing. Word on the street is some machine players are leaving regardless of winning wsyl. And rage is all leaving .

Where are they going? Who is better? Smh


Why isn't machine going to the closing NLF....the biggest tournament of the season and a tournament for which they are a founding member ? Let's hear this great excuse lol


If this is true and they in fact miss the NLF which they have never missed before ...they would be known as the " world's weakest champion"
If it’s true it’s because they don’t want to end the summer getting kicked in the face again by the West Coast Stars
The winners of the World Series normally lose at the NLF. Shouldn’t be a surprise or even a let down. It’s just the way it is.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
91 dominates, Maryland are all double hold backs and you parents really need to get a life.


91 dominates what exactly? Winning by one goal in the last few seconds of a game is hardly dominating. They also got smoked weeks before at consecutive tournaments . So relax guy . Enjoy your wsyl moment that nobody will remember in a few weeks lol. And watch your players leave because they're not developing. Word on the street is some machine players are leaving regardless of winning wsyl. And rage is all leaving .

Where are they going? Who is better? Smh


You're a brainless fool ....nobody cares who won a tournament. The smarter parents are more concerned about development and playing time . And as such , more than a few machine players are leaving and that's a FACT

Is there any Machine players that didn’t see any playing time ? Remember when 2023 bandits were in the WS players went all the way to Denver and didnt see the field . Imagine that
Originally Posted by Anonymous
kids wasn’t demoted he asked to play for Rage to get more playing. That stunad needs to get his facts straight.

Oh thats just wonderful, so a kid leaves Machine and plays for rage . Now takes playing time from a committed Rage player. When are you people going to wake up from these clubs ?
You people are all nuts. These kids haven’t even hit puberty. All these studs who happen to be 5’7” now will wind up in the middle of the pack. I have seen it with my son. Kids that were rockstars 5-8th grade barely getting looks for recruiting. Other kids got bigger and stronger and gained skills along the way. You have a long way to go. Buckle up because for the next 3 years kids will be moving teams, rankings will change. Oh, and nobody cares or remembers who won the WSYL except the tools that are still pumping their chests over it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The winners of the World Series normally lose at the NLF. Shouldn’t be a surprise or even a let down. It’s just the way it is.


Just the way it is ? It's called " the world's weakest champion " lol
If kid that moved down is better than who’s on the roster why not. It’s called don’t be satisfied where you are now. Continue to progress in the right direction. Don’t cry bc your son is not turley better than the kid who went B team from A team. Keep complaining and making excuses for your kid. Maybe actually work with him outside of scheduled practices so he can improve even more. But I guess that too much for lazy millennial parents. Hashtag DO AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Also, in the rumor mill is that machine isn't going to the NLF...one of the biggest tournaments of the season because they don't want to lose and have everyone wipe away their good memories from the world series . Amazing....a bunch of parents/coaches that talk tuff but behind the scenes are running scared of losing a tournament. Unbelievable but not surprised


Looks like that didn’t age very well. May want to check your “rumor” sources.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If kid that moved down is better than who’s on the roster why not. It’s called don’t be satisfied where you are now. Continue to progress in the right direction. Don’t cry bc your son is not turley better than the kid who went B team from A team. Keep complaining and making excuses for your kid. Maybe actually work with him outside of scheduled practices so he can improve even more. But I guess that too much for lazy millennial parents. Hashtag DO AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE

Your ok with the kid that went down ?? Its Not his team
It’s not his team it’s not his team!!!! I’ll cry for you.

Just make sure your son still loves the game and treat him according to his desire to get better. If not there and just wants to part of a team so be it. If he has that rare desire to be a complete competitor, push him in the right direction. Don’t complain about roster spots of other kids on other teams. Just focus on yours. That’s the problem with society today, everyone is a know it all and want to know everyone’s business. Don’t be that guy or gal!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s not his team it’s not his team!!!! I’ll cry for you.

Just make sure your son still loves the game and treat him according to his desire to get better. If not there and just wants to part of a team so be it. If he has that rare desire to be a complete competitor, push him in the right direction. Don’t complain about roster spots of other kids on other teams. Just focus on yours. That’s the problem with society today, everyone is a know it all and want to know everyone’s business. Don’t be that guy or gal!!!

Saying the Guy or Gal writing all this
What does that even mean? Speak english! Say it and on it. Why do the people who read and write on this post have to decode pretzel responses!!!
Does anyone have a list of Try Out Dates or maybe the moderator can start a new thread. If you are not happy where you are at, this is always the year everyone moves! And if anyone tells you that this team or that team is FULL is WRONG. These teams would cut kids to pick up better players in any position in a second! Be educated, this age group is one of the weaker ones in past years, ask anyone that has a clue or has older kids 2027 and 2028 Long Island teams have average at best players, I have not seen 1 player that can change the outcome of a game , maybe FO Kid from Machine, they best tray that kid well and no I’m not his Dad, anyone with a brain can see. Hopefully they are all late bloomers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The winners of the World Series normally lose at the NLF. Shouldn’t be a surprise or even a let down. It’s just the way it is.

Excuses?
Sounds like if i lose election there musr have been fraud
The building is burning at the 91 facility in commack and people get get out fast enough
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have a list of Try Out Dates or maybe the moderator can start a new thread. If you are not happy where you are at, this is always the year everyone moves! And if anyone tells you that this team or that team is FULL is WRONG. These teams would cut kids to pick up better players in any position in a second! Be educated, this age group is one of the weaker ones in past years, ask anyone that has a clue or has older kids 2027 and 2028 Long Island teams have average at best players, I have not seen 1 player that can change the outcome of a game , maybe FO Kid from Machine, they best tray that kid well and no I’m not his Dad, anyone with a brain can see. Hopefully they are all late bloomers.

What are you saying ? You follow the F/O kid from 91 that much ? Very creepy and there is a ton of skill in 27/28’s . Now your the ESPN of Li youth lacrosse. Get a grip man .
Also the cost for the clubs this year can we post that too ?
Wake up count chocular, trix are for kids!!! Plenty of game changers in the 2027 grad year and yes some of those game changers haven’t even hit their growth spurts yet. Watch out for some movement that will certainly diminish top teams rosters while making next tier of teams even more competitive. We’ll just have to wait and see!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wake up count chocular, trix are for kids!!! Plenty of game changers in the 2027 grad year and yes some of those game changers haven’t even hit their growth spurts yet. Watch out for some movement that will certainly diminish top teams rosters while making next tier of teams even more competitive. We’ll just have to wait and see!!!


Yep. Some top players are having challenges now due to genetics and some have caught up to them. Next few years should be interesting
Club Prices hit 5k yet ??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too much bitterness out there and on this thread . My son plays lacrosse because he loves it and I like it for him because it's a great supplement to his academics which will always be first . Along the way he is making friendships even across the field with opposing players . There is a mutual respect among some of the kids now and that's fun to see. Life is too short to be so bitter ,just do what makes your son happy regardless of where he plays . It's a simple thing to do ..just ask him " are you having fun "...if the answer is yes then continue as is if not then make a change . But still no reason to be so bitter . The bitter parents are obvious and it spills over to their kids . Sad

Exactly this
Parent here not a affiliated with the Company but my son has played for the BIG known club in the past but the joy and fun with East Coast Elite out of Sayville Suffolk area was a Great experience all around. I know its part of dynamic but I wish It was it but the coaches hands down were Great . Local great experience.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Club Prices hit 5k yet ??

Of course they have .
Where did the FO from Machine come from? He wasn’t there last summer. Without him, they would not have a chance against some of the better 6v6 teams as they need a few pinch and pop goals to stay in games. you are right, they better treat him well because they won’t win another national tournament (NAL, NLF) without him.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Also, in the rumor mill is that machine isn't going to the NLF...one of the biggest tournaments of the season because they don't want to lose and have everyone wipe away their good memories from the world series . Amazing....a bunch of parents/coaches that talk tuff but behind the scenes are running scared of losing a tournament. Unbelievable but not surprised


Looks like that didn’t age very well. May want to check your “rumor” sources.


Lol....like I said ,the world's weakest champion has pulled out. If you know how to read you can go look at the NLF schedule yourself . You might want to finally take the dirty uniform off from the world series and wash it now . It's time
Get a life!!!
Not even close to why Machine has been successful. Once again not a fact an opinion you are trying to push on people that have no insight in regards to the Machine!
Hahahahaha!!! Machine out of NLF! Either their face off kid couldn’t make it/ went back to his original team or they don’t want to risk losing the glow of the WSYL by getting beat by WCS/Kings/Eclipse. No way they would have won NLF. Probably a good move on their part. They finally won something and took their ball home for the summer.
Bwahhha they are afraid of another 10 pt beat down by WCS!
The World Champions are afraid of no team. There is not a on age team that can compete with the Machine. Case closed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The World Champions are afraid of no team. There is not a on age team that can compete with the Machine. Case closed.

This is why they are the champs … everyone can keep
Bumping their gums all they want ….first it was they weren’t gonna win the World Series lol they did that now it’s they are scared … you guys needs a life if all you’re worried about is 1 team. Worry about little Johnny and his club 😭😭😭.
Dad can you give us some insight as to why a founding member would cancel the week of the tourney other than what is obvious to everyone else???? I think it has been implied that the world champions are scardy cats 🤔🤣
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The World Champions are afraid of no team. There is not a on age team that can compete with the Machine. Case closed.

Didn’t team PA just beat them?? And they were not undefeated this year so relax Francis
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dad can you give us some insight as to why a founding member would cancel the week of the tourney other than what is obvious to everyone else???? I think it has been implied that the world champions are scardy cats 🤔🤣


Here’s another one 😭😭😭
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dad can you give us some insight as to why a founding member would cancel the week of the tourney other than what is obvious to everyone else???? I think it has been implied that the world champions are scardy cats 🤔🤣


Here’s another one 😭😭😭

Just curious. Why pull out?
lol. People move on. Both sides of this machine arguement. They are a good team. There are other good teams also. Enjoy watching your kids.

And no it’s not the machine parents faults at this point. I read this thread enough to know.
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dad can you give us some insight as to why a founding member would cancel the week of the tourney other than what is obvious to everyone else???? I think it has been implied that the world champions are scardy cats 🤔🤣


Here’s another one 😭😭😭

I'm sure it's not the kids that are the other word for "scardy cats", but their coaches and administration. Im virtually positive the parents and kids want to be out playing. For sure the kids are ready to roll. Sad they won't be given the opportunity for the clubs reputation sake and money via dues and instagram fame just for the chance they may not win another championship. Should let the kids play...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The World Champions are afraid of no team. There is not a on age team that can compete with the Machine. Case closed.


There is no team that can compete with machine on age …lol. Is that what they went to OT with team PA and beat BBL in the last few seconds of that game . Right, no team can compete with them hahaha. How about they also cried to make sure that everyone at the NLF was “ on grade “ and got spanked there too. So that’s the new company line now “ nobody can beat us on age “? You’ll be saying he same thing two years from now . And guess what , nobody cares about the World Series, it’s over and nobody will remember it in two weeks. Teams will be wondering why they’re not at the NLF though lol….one of the founding clubs of NLF need a break lol. Sad
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dad can you give us some insight as to why a founding member would cancel the week of the tourney other than what is obvious to everyone else???? I think it has been implied that the world champions are scardy cats 🤔🤣


Here’s another one 😭😭😭

Relax bearded trash, your son doesn’t even play for machine. Your team is awful and falling apart . You’re nothing but a 91 boot licker
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dad can you give us some insight as to why a founding member would cancel the week of the tourney other than what is obvious to everyone else???? I think it has been implied that the world champions are scardy cats 🤔🤣


Here’s another one 😭😭😭

Relax bearded trash, your son doesn’t even play for machine. Your team is awful and falling apart . You’re nothing but a 91 boot licker


😭😭😭 trash 😭😭 move along now
[quote=Bearded_Kaos][quote=Anonymous]The World Champions are afraid of no team. There is not a on age team that can compete with the Machine. Case closed.

Not an on age team that can compete???? They lost to PA, won in OT against Kings in a game that they trailed most of (and won mainly because of their FOGO) and won vs BBL by a goal. All on-age teams. Those games could have gone either way.

We all know - and their coaches and admin know - that they would have gotten beaten handily again by West Coast Stars at NLF. Probably Kings too. So they elected to save face rather than competing like a true champion. All ego on the part of the adults running their program. Bet the kids would like to play.
East Coaat Elite is no longer under Dynamic. The Sayville coach is the director with great coaches .
Wait does bearded kid not play for Machine?? Why would he pound his chest if his kid wasn’t on the team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wait does bearded kid not play for Machine?? Why would he pound his chest if his kid wasn’t on the team?


Troll 🧌 😂
Imagine a bunch of adult men arguing about a little kids' game........sad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Machine dropped out because that team is already falling apart.
great player already left the team and not playing for them anymore. left right after the WS.
FOGO back to where ever he came from.
2 others i heard left already or are leaving.
multiple kids got thrown down to rage at the last minute to accommodate others. parents and kids furious.
S2S, Legacy, Express all going to pick up 91 kids. always alot of changes the summer going into 8th grade

that team was filled with poison but held it together to just win that WS.
it's a terrible organization that poaches players with free tuitions, supported by B teams with the hopes of moving up. and oh, you want help with recruiting into college, that's an extra charge. and you will be behind all the coaches kids and their friends. long term, 91 is a poor option.

imagine that, imagine your sons team wins the biggest tournament of the year, and then kids, parents, families just scatter. what does that tell you about the team?

Where is this info coming from 🤦‍♂️
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Imagine a bunch of adult men arguing about a little kids' game........sad
We don't have to. It's all here in black and white!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East Coaat Elite is no longer under Dynamic. The Sayville coach is the director with great coaches .

I have to agree . The 2 27’s coaches are great . Great club organization. Tired of your 4k plus team and going 3 states go 1-4 paying tolls gas hotels now your tution is 7k , Stay home and have fun playing Li teams on Li .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East Coaat Elite is no longer under Dynamic. The Sayville coach is the director with great coaches .

I have to agree . The 2 27’s coaches are great . Great club organization. Tired of your 4k plus team and going 3 states go 1-4 paying tolls gas hotels now your tution is 7k , Stay home and have fun playing Li teams on Li .

STOP TALKING TO YOURSELF
Forget all this talk about bashing 91. Let’s be honest with one another….all these clubs are a joke. They never put the kids first. It’s all about business, at least it is on Long Island. Can’t speak for other states. If these clubs would start focusing on the right coaches, not high profile coaches who have no idea how to coach at the youth level and spend more time on player development they all would have more success and a lot less BS.

Very interested to see what happens next week when LI clubs start having tryouts. So many people jumping from team to team. Let’s stop blaming the parents, maybe if these clubs provided a better product people would be loyal and stay.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Forget all this talk about bashing 91. Let’s be honest with one another….all these clubs are a joke. They never put the kids first. It’s all about business, at least it is on Long Island. Can’t speak for other states. If these clubs would start focusing on the right coaches, not high profile coaches who have no idea how to coach at the youth level and spend more time on player development they all would have more success and a lot less BS.

Very interested to see what happens next week when LI clubs start having tryouts. So many people jumping from team to team. Let’s stop blaming the parents, maybe if these clubs provided a better product people would be loyal and stay.

This is such a classic disenfranchised parent comment. Let me respond from a coaches perspective (and I am not affiliated with any of the programs discussed here. I no longer coach club ball mainly because of this toxicity).

You talk about complaining of cost and lack of player development but how many times did you go to practice and have half the team missing because of vacation/camp/other sports/birthday parties/"it's too hot?" How many times did you have your child not go to practice?
Is it a business? Yes, 100% but I can not tell you how many times parents said they would be at a tournament and at least 10-20% of them are no-shows and now instead of 18-20 players we have 14-16. So we pad the roster so when those 10-20% don't show up, you still have 18-20 players to play 3-4 games in 90 degree weather. Or we grab a guy from another team to fill out a position. You whine when we move a FOGO from one team to another, but you never have an issue when you grab a kid from another team to suppliment yours, do you?
You complain about cost, but after giving you a break and allowing you to pay in installments, EVERY one of your payments are late and we have to cahse you down, even though we've already paid the tournament costs and coaching salaries that your child has already played in. You want to win but you want your kid to play evenly even when he's the 6th best attackman of the 5 guys they really need. You are so hammered on a saturday tourney that I have to drive your car back to the hotel because you can barely stand up, even tho I have been there for 12 hours that day. You ask about our loyalty but you show up to a tourney playing for 2 teams.

What is it that you want?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Forget all this talk about bashing 91. Let’s be honest with one another….all these clubs are a joke. They never put the kids first. It’s all about business, at least it is on Long Island. Can’t speak for other states. If these clubs would start focusing on the right coaches, not high profile coaches who have no idea how to coach at the youth level and spend more time on player development they all would have more success and a lot less BS.

Very interested to see what happens next week when LI clubs start having tryouts. So many people jumping from team to team. Let’s stop blaming the parents, maybe if these clubs provided a better product people would be loyal and stay.

This is such a classic disenfranchised parent comment. Let me respond from a coaches perspective (and I am not affiliated with any of the programs discussed here. I no longer coach club ball mainly because of this toxicity).

You talk about complaining of cost and lack of player development but how many times did you go to practice and have half the team missing because of vacation/camp/other sports/birthday parties/"it's too hot?" How many times did you have your child not go to practice?
Is it a business? Yes, 100% but I can not tell you how many times parents said they would be at a tournament and at least 10-20% of them are no-shows and now instead of 18-20 players we have 14-16. So we pad the roster so when those 10-20% don't show up, you still have 18-20 players to play 3-4 games in 90 degree weather. Or we grab a guy from another team to fill out a position. You whine when we move a FOGO from one team to another, but you never have an issue when you grab a kid from another team to suppliment yours, do you?
You complain about cost, but after giving you a break and allowing you to pay in installments, EVERY one of your payments are late and we have to cahse you down, even though we've already paid the tournament costs and coaching salaries that your child has already played in. You want to win but you want your kid to play evenly even when he's the 6th best attackman of the 5 guys they really need. You are so hammered on a saturday tourney that I have to drive your car back to the hotel because you can barely stand up, even tho I have been there for 12 hours that day. You ask about our loyalty but you show up to a tourney playing for 2 teams.

What is it that you want?


So what's your explanation for charging people 5k when others can do it for $2500 or even less ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Forget all this talk about bashing 91. Let’s be honest with one another….all these clubs are a joke. They never put the kids first. It’s all about business, at least it is on Long Island. Can’t speak for other states. If these clubs would start focusing on the right coaches, not high profile coaches who have no idea how to coach at the youth level and spend more time on player development they all would have more success and a lot less BS.

Very interested to see what happens next week when LI clubs start having tryouts. So many people jumping from team to team. Let’s stop blaming the parents, maybe if these clubs provided a better product people would be loyal and stay.

This is such a classic disenfranchised parent comment. Let me respond from a coaches perspective (and I am not affiliated with any of the programs discussed here. I no longer coach club ball mainly because of this toxicity).

You talk about complaining of cost and lack of player development but how many times did you go to practice and have half the team missing because of vacation/camp/other sports/birthday parties/"it's too hot?" How many times did you have your child not go to practice?
Is it a business? Yes, 100% but I can not tell you how many times parents said they would be at a tournament and at least 10-20% of them are no-shows and now instead of 18-20 players we have 14-16. So we pad the roster so when those 10-20% don't show up, you still have 18-20 players to play 3-4 games in 90 degree weather. Or we grab a guy from another team to fill out a position. You whine when we move a FOGO from one team to another, but you never have an issue when you grab a kid from another team to suppliment yours, do you?
You complain about cost, but after giving you a break and allowing you to pay in installments, EVERY one of your payments are late and we have to cahse you down, even though we've already paid the tournament costs and coaching salaries that your child has already played in. You want to win but you want your kid to play evenly even when he's the 6th best attackman of the 5 guys they really need. You are so hammered on a saturday tourney that I have to drive your car back to the hotel because you can barely stand up, even tho I have been there for 12 hours that day. You ask about our loyalty but you show up to a tourney playing for 2 teams.

What is it that you want?


So what's your explanation for charging people 5k when others can do it for $2500 or even less ?

Not the guy from above. But that is an easy question.
FREE MARKET if you don’t want to pay the price go somewhere else no one is forcing anyone to pay anything. It’s 100%your choice if you do.not like the what you are buying do not buy it. If you can get a similar product for less money go for it. Id others have it at 1/2 the price take it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Forget all this talk about bashing 91. Let’s be honest with one another….all these clubs are a joke. They never put the kids first. It’s all about business, at least it is on Long Island. Can’t speak for other states. If these clubs would start focusing on the right coaches, not high profile coaches who have no idea how to coach at the youth level and spend more time on player development they all would have more success and a lot less BS.

Very interested to see what happens next week when LI clubs start having tryouts. So many people jumping from team to team. Let’s stop blaming the parents, maybe if these clubs provided a better product people would be loyal and stay.

This is such a classic disenfranchised parent comment. Let me respond from a coaches perspective (and I am not affiliated with any of the programs discussed here. I no longer coach club ball mainly because of this toxicity).

You talk about complaining of cost and lack of player development but how many times did you go to practice and have half the team missing because of vacation/camp/other sports/birthday parties/"it's too hot?" How many times did you have your child not go to practice?
Is it a business? Yes, 100% but I can not tell you how many times parents said they would be at a tournament and at least 10-20% of them are no-shows and now instead of 18-20 players we have 14-16. So we pad the roster so when those 10-20% don't show up, you still have 18-20 players to play 3-4 games in 90 degree weather. Or we grab a guy from another team to fill out a position. You whine when we move a FOGO from one team to another, but you never have an issue when you grab a kid from another team to suppliment yours, do you?
You complain about cost, but after giving you a break and allowing you to pay in installments, EVERY one of your payments are late and we have to cahse you down, even though we've already paid the tournament costs and coaching salaries that your child has already played in. You want to win but you want your kid to play evenly even when he's the 6th best attackman of the 5 guys they really need. You are so hammered on a saturday tourney that I have to drive your car back to the hotel because you can barely stand up, even tho I have been there for 12 hours that day. You ask about our loyalty but you show up to a tourney playing for 2 teams.

What is it that you want?


So what's your explanation for charging people 5k when others can do it for $2500 or even less ?

Not the guy from above. But that is an easy question.
FREE MARKET if you don’t want to pay the price go somewhere else no one is forcing anyone to pay anything. It’s 100%your choice if you do.not like the what you are buying do not buy it. If you can get a similar product for less money go for it. Id others have it at 1/2 the price take it.

I am the guy from the previous quote. This guy nails it.

Why do they charge it? Because people pay it. Tournament fees are not cheap and they're going up. You all want good coaches to give up half their summers AND have to deal with crazy parents? A couple of bucks and some free swag isn't cutting it anymore. This is now a market and an industry. It is NOT (in my opinion) in the best interests of the game, this is a business and you need to continue to grow to attract more investment. Growth means profits.

Can you get an equal if not, greater experience elsewhere where your kid gets treated well, he's coached up AND has a great experience? 100% If parents - and let's not kid ourselves THEY are the worst offenders in this - can give up the "keep up with the joneses/my kid is amazing" nonsense its entirely worth it. Right now, that is not where the dollars are going. The industry - and it IS an industry - is giving the parents exactly what they are asking for. NO ONE is forcing you to pay it.

Do yourselves a favor: calculate how much money from say, 5th to 12th grade you might spend on club travel chasing that schoalrship $ That's 7-8 years at a low, $2-$4k. Call it 3,000. That's $21,000-$24,000 in jus the costs to play. That's well more than you will ever hope to recoup in scholarship money.
If people are playing club sports just in hope for a scholarship, you are doing it for the wrong reason. I would hope it’s because your child loves the sport and wants to play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If people are playing club sports just in hope for a scholarship, you are doing it for the wrong reason. I would hope it’s because your child loves the sport and wants to play.


Agreed.... unfortunately a lot of people don't realize that . And/or you have parents living through their kids to satisfy their egos as well. Sad . I have seen it over and over and the kid would be much better served doing something else but the parents , mostly the dada ego gets in the way and the kids are forced to play lacrosse.
There will be a ton of movement this year due to greed of clubs to have more than 22 players on a roster and too many daddy ball coaches on each team. It’s all gotten out of hand and parents will send a message to clubs this year to bring balance.

The Clubs who proactively right size rosters and number of daddy coaches will retain the best talent, team chemistry and brand equity. Basic business principles.
People are sick and tired of daddy coaches. Time to put your kid in the situation to improve his overall game.
Rumor is that the best player on Machine for last five years (and not the F/O kid) is moving organizations so the kid gets different coaching with different voices in order to continue to develop his game. And that kid hasn’t even hit his growth spurt!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is that the best player on Machine for last five years (and not the F/O kid) is moving organizations so the kid gets different coaching with different voices in order to continue to develop his game. And that kid hasn’t even hit his growth spurt!!!


If this is true that says a lot about the environment at 91...you are with a team for 5 years , win the world series and can't run fast enough to another club ..good for the kid /parents...they probably had enough of that environment. Toxic, political etc......
The 2024 Wolfpack and 2025 Shock teams both had less than expected outcomes at NLF following the World Series, both didn’t make it past pool play and the 2024 I think actually left the tourney. So my guess, without knowing anything is…2027 is trying to avoid that.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is that the best player on Machine for last five years (and not the F/O kid) is moving organizations so the kid gets different coaching with different voices in order to continue to develop his game. And that kid hasn’t even hit his growth spurt!!!

Isnt that the kid his Dad one of the Machines Coaches that you can hear 200 yards away and spitting Tobacco ??
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is that the best player on Machine for last five years (and not the F/O kid) is moving organizations so the kid gets different coaching with different voices in order to continue to develop his game. And that kid hasn’t even hit his growth spurt!!!

Isnt that the kid his Dad one of the Machines Coaches that you can hear 200 yards away and spitting Tobacco ??


And that's relevant how ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is that the best player on Machine for last five years (and not the F/O kid) is moving organizations so the kid gets different coaching with different voices in order to continue to develop his game. And that kid hasn’t even hit his growth spurt!!!

Amazing How you know so much about the kid , his growth, yrs playing .
Anyone know who owns US club lax? Or multiple entities? Thx
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is that the best player on Machine for last five years (and not the F/O kid) is moving organizations so the kid gets different coaching with different voices in order to continue to develop his game. And that kid hasn’t even hit his growth spurt!!!

Isnt that the kid his Dad one of the Machines Coaches that you can hear 200 yards away and spitting Tobacco ??

Yup... Nasty thing
Top teams? Truthfully Express is a mid level AA team with flashes of greatness but they’re inconsistent. They didn’t even make the playoffs for this NLF.
Who are you kidding? Express has the same parents doing the same stuff except they do it while wearing polo shirts tucked into their short shorts which apparently makes them “classy.” Lipstick on a pig.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are you kidding? Express has the same parents doing the same stuff except they do it while wearing polo shirts tucked into their short shorts which apparently makes them “classy.” Lipstick on a pig.


🐽 💄
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are you kidding? Express has the same parents doing the same stuff except they do it while wearing polo shirts tucked into their short shorts which apparently makes them “classy.” Lipstick on a pig.


A lot of bitter 91 rage parents on here it seems . Stick to your losing team , it's about that time of year when you drink the Kool aid right before tryouts and stay with the same losing team . Same thing year after year . Next year will be " different" ...yeah I know . And as long as you have bearded trash on here as your spokesperson you shouldn't take it down a notch ....it's embarrassing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top teams? Truthfully Express is a mid level AA team with flashes of greatness but they’re inconsistent. They didn’t even make the playoffs for this NLF.

91 parents all proud about other teams not making playoffs etc....so sour and bitter over their own teams that they study tourney machine to see if other teams lose . By the way where was machine ? And rage was in the B bracket where they belong . Now go home and get ready for your tryouts ....you have a lot of work to do
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know who owns US club lax? Or multiple entities? Thx

Not sure who it is, but it the same group who owns US Lax Events, the #1 boys tourney promoter in the south and midwest.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are you kidding? Express has the same parents doing the same stuff except they do it while wearing polo shirts tucked into their short shorts which apparently makes them “classy.” Lipstick on a pig.


A lot of bitter 91 rage parents on here it seems . Stick to your losing team , it's about that time of year when you drink the Kool aid right before tryouts and stay with the same losing team . Same thing year after year . Next year will be " different" ...yeah I know . And as long as you have bearded trash on here as your spokesperson you shouldn't take it down a notch ....it's embarrassing


Keep crying 😭 😭😭
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are you kidding? Express has the same parents doing the same stuff except they do it while wearing polo shirts tucked into their short shorts which apparently makes them “classy.” Lipstick on a pig.


A lot of bitter 91 rage parents on here it seems . Stick to your losing team , it's about that time of year when you drink the Kool aid right before tryouts and stay with the same losing team . Same thing year after year . Next year will be " different" ...yeah I know . And as long as you have bearded trash on here as your spokesperson you shouldn't take it down a notch ....it's embarrassing


Keep crying 😭 😭😭


Bearded trash..... champion parent of the B league
With the way Express played this weekend they’ll be in the B bracket pretty soon.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are you kidding? Express has the same parents doing the same stuff except they do it while wearing polo shirts tucked into their short shorts which apparently makes them “classy.” Lipstick on a pig.


A lot of bitter 91 rage parents on here it seems . Stick to your losing team , it's about that time of year when you drink the Kool aid right before tryouts and stay with the same losing team . Same thing year after year . Next year will be " different" ...yeah I know . And as long as you have bearded trash on here as your spokesperson you shouldn't take it down a notch ....it's embarrassing


Keep crying 😭 😭😭


Bearded trash..... champion parent of the B league


Thank you 😃… my feelings will never be hurt but yours apparently are I’m sorry about that..one day you will become an adult untill than continue to be a 🤡 😭😭💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rumor is that the best player on Machine for last five years (and not the F/O kid) is moving organizations so the kid gets different coaching with different voices in order to continue to develop his game. And that kid hasn’t even hit his growth spurt!!!
You're definitely this "rumored" kids father posting this. Not hiding that very well at all. Nobody talks about other people's kids in such detail and mentions growth spurts with exclamation marks.
Express 2027 Haugen: 26-24-2

I wouldn’t go spracking off too much about “a losing team.” Sounds like you have some work to do yourself.
Express parent here. Agreed. The team has no heart, fire or fire to be good. Mid tier at best, but that seemed true of this years entire 2027 group.
Did anyone watch the 91 Fury parents this weekend how classless they were? It's embarrassing to Long Island.
Jesus this thread is a cesspool.... Do any of you realize that this is why LI Lacrosse parents have the stereotype they do? You've all clearly earned it....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
With the way Express played this weekend they’ll be in the B bracket pretty soon.

Where did they play this weekend ?
Who honestly would pay for a Express and 91 2nd and 3rd team of this age group ? Does anyone have a clue how much Tuition for teams this yr ? The big hidden secret untill they hit you with your son is accepted and 1st payment is due NOW please click enter . The QUESTION no one ever answer's on here .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesus this thread is a cesspool.... Do any of you realize that this is why LI Lacrosse parents have the stereotype they do? You've all clearly earned it....


There’s plenty of out of state teams that are just as bad 👍🏽
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did anyone watch the 91 Fury parents this weekend how classless they were? It's embarrassing to Long Island.

Who is Fury ? Long island team or Upstate ?
Nice to see the all the 15-year old kids on the Laxachusetts "27" team carry them to victory.
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesus this thread is a cesspool.... Do any of you realize that this is why LI Lacrosse parents have the stereotype they do? You've all clearly earned it....


There’s plenty of out of state teams that are just as bad 👍🏽

Ahh.. the ol' "well they're doing it, so...."
I guess that makes it okay.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who honestly would pay for a Express and 91 2nd and 3rd team of this age group ? Does anyone have a clue how much Tuition for teams this yr ? The big hidden secret untill they hit you with your son is accepted and 1st payment is due NOW please click enter . The QUESTION no one ever answer's on here .

BUMP
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who honestly would pay for a Express and 91 2nd and 3rd team of this age group ? Does anyone have a clue how much Tuition for teams this yr ? The big hidden secret untill they hit you with your son is accepted and 1st payment is due NOW please click enter . The QUESTION no one ever answer's on here .

BUMP

The question is always the coaches for 2nd teams. 91 has very good 2nd teams at 23, 27. 29 Express has very good 2nd teams at 23, 24, 25 and 26. It always the commitment made by the club that makes the difference.
So tired of watching my on age 2027's on-age team go up against multiple kids on multiple 2027 teams who are 6' 0" 180- (not many 13 y/olds I know that are that size). Aren't these older kids/parents embarrassed to be playing against kids half their size? Do they think that this is a true measure of their kid's athletic prowess? As lacrosse becomes more popular, and 1 and 2 year reclassing becomes the status quo, the on age kids from Long island while getting tougher, are getting the s@#t kicked out of them. Who is this benefiting? Not to mention, by high school there are so many kids that don't have the option to reclass, going up against 1 and 2 year reclasses, adding to what is already an exclusivity problem for the sport of lacrosse. Thanks to World Series for evening the playing field for at least 1 tournament this summer since US Lacrosse doesn't seem to want to.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Express parent here. Agreed. The team has no heart, fire or fire to be good. Mid tier at best, but that seemed true of this years entire 2027 group.


So is your son leaving ? Sounds like you can find that heart and fire somewhere else ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So tired of watching my on age 2027's on-age team go up against multiple kids on multiple 2027 teams who are 6' 0" 180- (not many 13 y/olds I know that are that size). Aren't these older kids/parents embarrassed to be playing against kids half their size? Do they think that this is a true measure of their kid's athletic prowess? As lacrosse becomes more popular, and 1 and 2 year reclassing becomes the status quo, the on age kids from Long island while getting tougher, are getting the s@#t kicked out of them. Who is this benefiting? Not to mention, by high school there are so many kids that don't have the option to reclass, going up against 1 and 2 year reclasses, adding to what is already an exclusivity problem for the sport of lacrosse. Thanks to World Series for evening the playing field for at least 1 tournament this summer since US Lacrosse doesn't seem to want to.


Been going on for years and won't be changing any time soon . And by the way nobody will remember the world series after this summer . So just deal with it ...may not be ideal but it's the way it is . No sense in crying about it
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So tired of watching my on age 2027's on-age team go up against multiple kids on multiple 2027 teams who are 6' 0" 180- (not many 13 y/olds I know that are that size). Aren't these older kids/parents embarrassed to be playing against kids half their size? Do they think that this is a true measure of their kid's athletic prowess? As lacrosse becomes more popular, and 1 and 2 year reclassing becomes the status quo, the on age kids from Long island while getting tougher, are getting the s@#t kicked out of them. Who is this benefiting? Not to mention, by high school there are so many kids that don't have the option to reclass, going up against 1 and 2 year reclasses, adding to what is already an exclusivity problem for the sport of lacrosse. Thanks to World Series for evening the playing field for at least 1 tournament this summer since US Lacrosse doesn't seem to want to.

detest to be the one to tell you this, but it isn't always just because of reclassing. The 7th to 8th grade window is where the biggest disparities happen because everyone is hitting puberty and major growth spurts at different times. I've seen 6'0 180lb kid going against a 5'4 120 pounder and the latter is a full year older.
Yes, reclass is partially an issue, but let's stop banging that drum like it is the only issue facing lacrosse right now.

Guess what, if you get to HS and even college, you might stay 5'4 and have to go against a 6'5 defenseman. Quit your whining, have your kid develop some toughness and thick skin and get out there and play. That's one of the beauties of this sport, all players of all sizes can be successful. Stop making excuses for why your kid isn't good enough and work with him so that he gets better.

Life isn't fair, sports aren't fair. This is a competition, we keep score. There are winners and losers and you are going to be one or the other at some point. The best thing you can teach your son is how to deal with both and move on to the next challenge.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So tired of watching my on age 2027's on-age team go up against multiple kids on multiple 2027 teams who are 6' 0" 180- (not many 13 y/olds I know that are that size). Aren't these older kids/parents embarrassed to be playing against kids half their size? Do they think that this is a true measure of their kid's athletic prowess? As lacrosse becomes more popular, and 1 and 2 year reclassing becomes the status quo, the on age kids from Long island while getting tougher, are getting the s@#t kicked out of them. Who is this benefiting? Not to mention, by high school there are so many kids that don't have the option to reclass, going up against 1 and 2 year reclasses, adding to what is already an exclusivity problem for the sport of lacrosse. Thanks to World Series for evening the playing field for at least 1 tournament this summer since US Lacrosse doesn't seem to want to.

detest to be the one to tell you this, but it isn't always just because of reclassing. The 7th to 8th grade window is where the biggest disparities happen because everyone is hitting puberty and major growth spurts at different times. I've seen 6'0 180lb kid going against a 5'4 120 pounder and the latter is a full year older.
Yes, reclass is partially an issue, but let's stop banging that drum like it is the only issue facing lacrosse right now.

Guess what, if you get to HS and even college, you might stay 5'4 and have to go against a 6'5 defenseman. Quit your whining, have your kid develop some toughness and thick skin and get out there and play. That's one of the beauties of this sport, all players of all sizes can be successful. Stop making excuses for why your kid isn't good enough and work with him so that he gets better.

Life isn't fair, sports aren't fair. This is a competition, we keep score. There are winners and losers and you are going to be one or the other at some point. The best thing you can teach your son is how to deal with both and move on to the next challenge.

Thanks holdback dad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So tired of watching my on age 2027's on-age team go up against multiple kids on multiple 2027 teams who are 6' 0" 180- (not many 13 y/olds I know that are that size). Aren't these older kids/parents embarrassed to be playing against kids half their size? Do they think that this is a true measure of their kid's athletic prowess? As lacrosse becomes more popular, and 1 and 2 year reclassing becomes the status quo, the on age kids from Long island while getting tougher, are getting the s@#t kicked out of them. Who is this benefiting? Not to mention, by high school there are so many kids that don't have the option to reclass, going up against 1 and 2 year reclasses, adding to what is already an exclusivity problem for the sport of lacrosse. Thanks to World Series for evening the playing field for at least 1 tournament this summer since US Lacrosse doesn't seem to want to.

detest to be the one to tell you this, but it isn't always just because of reclassing. The 7th to 8th grade window is where the biggest disparities happen because everyone is hitting puberty and major growth spurts at different times. I've seen 6'0 180lb kid going against a 5'4 120 pounder and the latter is a full year older.
Yes, reclass is partially an issue, but let's stop banging that drum like it is the only issue facing lacrosse right now.

Guess what, if you get to HS and even college, you might stay 5'4 and have to go against a 6'5 defenseman. Quit your whining, have your kid develop some toughness and thick skin and get out there and play. That's one of the beauties of this sport, all players of all sizes can be successful. Stop making excuses for why your kid isn't good enough and work with him so that he gets better.

Life isn't fair, sports aren't fair. This is a competition, we keep score. There are winners and losers and you are going to be one or the other at some point. The best thing you can teach your son is how to deal with both and move on to the next challenge.

Thanks holdback dad.
Good try, but as usual: way wrong.
My kid is on age and I agree totally. Or you can just keep complaining.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So tired of watching my on age 2027's on-age team go up against multiple kids on multiple 2027 teams who are 6' 0" 180- (not many 13 y/olds I know that are that size). Aren't these older kids/parents embarrassed to be playing against kids half their size? Do they think that this is a true measure of their kid's athletic prowess? As lacrosse becomes more popular, and 1 and 2 year reclassing becomes the status quo, the on age kids from Long island while getting tougher, are getting the s@#t kicked out of them. Who is this benefiting? Not to mention, by high school there are so many kids that don't have the option to reclass, going up against 1 and 2 year reclasses, adding to what is already an exclusivity problem for the sport of lacrosse. Thanks to World Series for evening the playing field for at least 1 tournament this summer since US Lacrosse doesn't seem to want to.

detest to be the one to tell you this, but it isn't always just because of reclassing. The 7th to 8th grade window is where the biggest disparities happen because everyone is hitting puberty and major growth spurts at different times. I've seen 6'0 180lb kid going against a 5'4 120 pounder and the latter is a full year older.
Yes, reclass is partially an issue, but let's stop banging that drum like it is the only issue facing lacrosse right now.

Guess what, if you get to HS and even college, you might stay 5'4 and have to go against a 6'5 defenseman. Quit your whining, have your kid develop some toughness and thick skin and get out there and play. That's one of the beauties of this sport, all players of all sizes can be successful. Stop making excuses for why your kid isn't good enough and work with him so that he gets better.

Life isn't fair, sports aren't fair. This is a competition, we keep score. There are winners and losers and you are going to be one or the other at some point. The best thing you can teach your son is how to deal with both and move on to the next challenge.

Thanks holdback dad.


Stop crying 91 dad....nobody cares about the world series anymore . You can keep dodging big tournaments and crying about holdbacks but nothing is going to change . Grab a box of tissues it's going to be a long ride
Reclassing is an (embarrassing) part of youth lacrosse. We all know it's not going away any time soon.

To the on-age kids who can keep up - good for them. They're learning toughness, grit, and how to compete even when you're starting at a small disadvantage.

To the kids who reclass - they're letting their parents pay for an extra year of tuition so they can compete against younger kids. I don't know what they're learning. But I guess if that's your thing...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So tired of watching my on age 2027's on-age team go up against multiple kids on multiple 2027 teams who are 6' 0" 180- (not many 13 y/olds I know that are that size). Aren't these older kids/parents embarrassed to be playing against kids half their size? Do they think that this is a true measure of their kid's athletic prowess? As lacrosse becomes more popular, and 1 and 2 year reclassing becomes the status quo, the on age kids from Long island while getting tougher, are getting the s@#t kicked out of them. Who is this benefiting? Not to mention, by high school there are so many kids that don't have the option to reclass, going up against 1 and 2 year reclasses, adding to what is already an exclusivity problem for the sport of lacrosse. Thanks to World Series for evening the playing field for at least 1 tournament this summer since US Lacrosse doesn't seem to want to.

detest to be the one to tell you this, but it isn't always just because of reclassing. The 7th to 8th grade window is where the biggest disparities happen because everyone is hitting puberty and major growth spurts at different times. I've seen 6'0 180lb kid going against a 5'4 120 pounder and the latter is a full year older.
Yes, reclass is partially an issue, but let's stop banging that drum like it is the only issue facing lacrosse right now.

Guess what, if you get to HS and even college, you might stay 5'4 and have to go against a 6'5 defenseman. Quit your whining, have your kid develop some toughness and thick skin and get out there and play. That's one of the beauties of this sport, all players of all sizes can be successful. Stop making excuses for why your kid isn't good enough and work with him so that he gets better.

Life isn't fair, sports aren't fair. This is a competition, we keep score. There are winners and losers and you are going to be one or the other at some point. The best thing you can teach your son is how to deal with both and move on to the next challenge.

Thanks holdback dad.


Stop crying 91 dad....nobody cares about the world series anymore . You can keep dodging big tournaments and crying about holdbacks but nothing is going to change . Grab a box of tissues it's going to be a long ride

Haha so true no one really does care about the WS . Keep paying that 5k
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So tired of watching my on age 2027's on-age team go up against multiple kids on multiple 2027 teams who are 6' 0" 180- (not many 13 y/olds I know that are that size). Aren't these older kids/parents embarrassed to be playing against kids half their size? Do they think that this is a true measure of their kid's athletic prowess? As lacrosse becomes more popular, and 1 and 2 year reclassing becomes the status quo, the on age kids from Long island while getting tougher, are getting the s@#t kicked out of them. Who is this benefiting? Not to mention, by high school there are so many kids that don't have the option to reclass, going up against 1 and 2 year reclasses, adding to what is already an exclusivity problem for the sport of lacrosse. Thanks to World Series for evening the playing field for at least 1 tournament this summer since US Lacrosse doesn't seem to want to.

detest to be the one to tell you this, but it isn't always just because of reclassing. The 7th to 8th grade window is where the biggest disparities happen because everyone is hitting puberty and major growth spurts at different times. I've seen 6'0 180lb kid going against a 5'4 120 pounder and the latter is a full year older.
Yes, reclass is partially an issue, but let's stop banging that drum like it is the only issue facing lacrosse right now.

Guess what, if you get to HS and even college, you might stay 5'4 and have to go against a 6'5 defenseman. Quit your whining, have your kid develop some toughness and thick skin and get out there and play. That's one of the beauties of this sport, all players of all sizes can be successful. Stop making excuses for why your kid isn't good enough and work with him so that he gets better.

Life isn't fair, sports aren't fair. This is a competition, we keep score. There are winners and losers and you are going to be one or the other at some point. The best thing you can teach your son is how to deal with both and move on to the next challenge.

Thanks holdback dad.


Stop crying 91 dad....nobody cares about the world series anymore . You can keep dodging big tournaments and crying about holdbacks but nothing is going to change . Grab a box of tissues it's going to be a long ride

Haha so true no one really does care about the WS . Keep paying that 5k


The difference in a 19 to 21 year old is not even xlos to 13 to 15
Legacy tryouts this week anyone know anything about this team , coaches they travel alot and cost ? Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The difference in a 19 to 21 year old is not even xlos to 13 to 15
And since this is a 2027 forum, we're talking 11-13 which is even more of a disparity. But the salient point remains, if you are complaing now about kids not being on-age, HS and college are going to be a massive issue for you and your kid when he is going against kids 4-5 years age difference than him. Learn to deal with it.

This is the biggest overarching issue with lacrosse parents today: they want to plow an easier path for their kid than do the harder thing: help them deal with the issues when it isn't fair, they will play against better, stronger, older faster kids and (SHOCKING!) will lose some games they should otherwise win. The other side of that same arguement is they will also WIN some games they have no business otherwise winning. It is competition plain and simple. If you aren't big enough get better at another skill, become a better feeder or GB guy until your size catches up.

You can whine about it, or you can get better. Stop the sob stories; here and on the sideline. It won't help your kid get better. In fact, you are hurting him more than you're helping
It's all fun and games until your kid tears an MCL playing a kid 2 years older, 8 inches taller and 60 pounds heavier.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's all fun and games until your kid tears an MCL playing a kid 2 years older, 8 inches taller and 60 pounds heavier.

That will always stink, but what difference does it make when the same thing might happen in college? WIth the same disparity?
Did you really say this? A kid gets hurt in college, that is one thing, these are grown men. But a 11 year old getting lit up by a 13 year old 2 times his size is bs. It should not be happening. The clubs let it happen, for numerous, notIntelligent reasons. And it may not change. But to say it is whining to point it out is also bs. All people want is a fair and level playing field. The clubs do not. They and their holdbacks are abusing the system at the cost of all other players. Call them out. The holdback kids and parents are weak, kid cannot make it on age, holdback. Rather than play down, they can play on age with the girls and pull a Lia Thomas. These tough guys are tough, puff out their chest, makes them tougher to play out of age, all this nonsense. Just wait until it is their kid with a broken leg. I know, nobody on this board is like that (ha!ha!) Do me a favor if you are so proud, put you kids name and age out their when he plays down. Actually, it does not matter. All the kids, parents, and coaches know anyway. So when your little unathletic Johnny scores 5 goals against kids 2 years younger and you think wow, he is great, the rest of us know your kid is just a big unathletic Lia Thomas.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's all fun and games until your kid tears an MCL playing a kid 2 years older, 8 inches taller and 60 pounds heavier.

That will always stink, but what difference does it make when the same thing might happen in college? WIth the same disparity?


Exactly....stop the whining and play ball . Nothing is changing so deal with it .
There is a difference between this type of injury happening when you’re in early adolescence versus when you’re a mostly grown young man. The procedure to correct may cause a growth abnormality leading to leg length inequality, or to angulatory deformity at the knee.
All the people saying deal with it are parents of a holdback 😭😭😭
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
All the people saying deal with it are parents of a holdback 😭😭😭


I suppose he doesn't even know that his son's club , team 91s top recruit going to Syracuse is a ......holdback . 19 years old .
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.

GREAT post! And no my kids are not holdbacks.
People really think that a 20 year old vs 24 is the same as 11vs 15? Or pick any similar age range. If you dont understand the difference you need to stick to other conversations and take some A & P classes before you return
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People really think that a 20 year old vs 24 is the same as 11vs 15? Or pick any similar age range. If you dont understand the difference you need to stick to other conversations and take some A & P classes before you return


Thank you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.


Dear LT,

No matter how you try to justify it and rationalize it, and twist and turn into saying it is ok, you condone unfair play. If you really are a coach, you know this holdback situation benefits the few and puts others at injury risk and give them an unfair advantage. Do not accuse anyone of whining when you are too weak to even take a stand on something so obviously wrong. You are part of the problem.
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People really think that a 20 year old vs 24 is the same as 11vs 15? Or pick any similar age range. If you dont understand the difference you need to stick to other conversations and take some A & P classes before you return


Thank you
Show me where that is happening on a regular basis. 11yo vs. 15yo, It's not. Let's not take the extreme examples of the one time you heard about a team where they might have done that once and positing that it is a nefarious issue across all of 2027 lacrosse tournaments - you can't because it doesn't happen. We're talking players that should be maybe rising sophomores who are playing vs. rising 7th graders.

C'mon man
Dear LT,

No matter how you try to justify it and rationalize it, and twist and turn into saying it is ok, you condone unfair play. If you really are a coach, you know this holdback situation benefits the few and puts others at injury risk and give them an unfair advantage. Do not accuse anyone of whining when you are too weak to even take a stand on something so obviously wrong. You are part of the problem.[/quote]

What are you doing to "take a stand"? Is whining about it on a web forum considered "taking a stand"?

Most honest people agree that holdbacks are unfair. Most would also agree that it is not likely to change in the near future. The question you need to ask yourself is what do you do about it? Will complaining about it on BOTC will affect change? Will complaining about it in front of your kid will make them a better player or better prepare them for unfair situations in the real world?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People really think that a 20 year old vs 24 is the same as 11vs 15? Or pick any similar age range. If you dont understand the difference you need to stick to other conversations and take some A & P classes before you return


Thank you
Show me where that is happening on a regular basis. 11yo vs. 15yo, It's not. Let's not take the extreme examples of the one time you heard about a team where they might have done that once and positing that it is a nefarious issue across all of 2027 lacrosse tournaments - you can't because it doesn't happen. We're talking players that should be maybe rising sophomores who are playing vs. rising 7th graders.

C'mon man


Play fair, head-ups, on age, and there is no issue. Start to move off of that, there are always those lurking in the shadows to abuse. That is why we have the problem now. The slippery slope has attracted the unethical, and if US Lax and/or the clubs will not fix it, call out the abusers.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.


Dear LT,

No matter how you try to justify it and rationalize it, and twist and turn into saying it is ok, you condone unfair play. If you really are a coach, you know this holdback situation benefits the few and puts others at injury risk and give them an unfair advantage. Do not accuse anyone of whining when you are too weak to even take a stand on something so obviously wrong. You are part of the problem.

Please show me where I have said it is ok? I haven't. I am also not justifying it. What I am doing is showing you that this is the reality. You are complaining about the following:

"unfair play" - It's called sports, everything about it is unfair. You put your best against my best and see what the outcome is. Everything about this is unfair by design, it's why we keep score. When was the last time you won a game and said it was unfair? you're smaller than them, find a solution to overcome it. Do you complain it's unfair when another team runs a scheme you've never see before? Or that your FO guy is winning 80% - that's unfair too.

"unfair advantage" - put your big boy pants on, some teams are going to have bigger, better and sometimes older players. Yes, it's unfair - there is a score, everything about sports and competition is unfair. There are winners and there are losers.

"puts others at injury risk" - This is a contact sport, you are at a risk of injury every time you step on the field. heck,you can hurt yourself getting out of bed in the morning. If you are THAT worried about injury, stay off the field.

EVERYTHING you are arguing just solidifies what I said previously. This is the same type of position that says, "well, we wold have won, but out best player was injured/our goalie had a bad game/the FO guy broke up with his girlfriend last night/Seniors had prom last night/the refs stink

The entirety of my point was that you can make excuses and cry that it exists, or you can deal with what the reality is and overcome the adversity. What is your son learning when he hears nothing but whining from the adults in the room about how everything is unfair when you lose, but when you beat those same teams it suddenly not an issue? They're sure as heck not learning how to deal with adversity, overcoming failure and finding ways to win when the chips are stacked against you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dear LT,

No matter how you try to justify it and rationalize it, and twist and turn into saying it is ok, you condone unfair play. If you really are a coach, you know this holdback situation benefits the few and puts others at injury risk and give them an unfair advantage. Do not accuse anyone of whining when you are too weak to even take a stand on something so obviously wrong. You are part of the problem.

What are you doing to "take a stand"? Is whining about it on a web forum considered "taking a stand"?

Most honest people agree that holdbacks are unfair. Most would also agree that it is not likely to change in the near future. The question you need to ask yourself is what do you do about it? Will complaining about it on BOTC will affect change? Will complaining about it in front of your kid will make them a better player or better prepare them for unfair situations in the real world?[/quote]

Yes, complaining here may help, particularly if the abusers are listed. Are we going to have 13 year olds playing in a 5th grade division? If the clubs will not self-regulate, they need pressure to get it right. One thing you cannot do is hide your head in the sand and not acknowledge the problem. Yes, I will tell my kid to fight through it, but I will not be silent for an unfair advantage and then try to bully everyone and calling them whiners. Why don't you man up and see if your kid can compete on age, and if he cannot make it, try golf.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People really think that a 20 year old vs 24 is the same as 11vs 15? Or pick any similar age range. If you dont understand the difference you need to stick to other conversations and take some A & P classes before you return


Thank you
Show me where that is happening on a regular basis. 11yo vs. 15yo, It's not. Let's not take the extreme examples of the one time you heard about a team where they might have done that once and positing that it is a nefarious issue across all of 2027 lacrosse tournaments - you can't because it doesn't happen. We're talking players that should be maybe rising sophomores who are playing vs. rising 7th graders.

C'mon man


Play fair, head-ups, on age, and there is no issue.

High school ball and beyond is going to blow your mind.....
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People really think that a 20 year old vs 24 is the same as 11vs 15? Or pick any similar age range. If you dont understand the difference you need to stick to other conversations and take some A & P classes before you return


Thank you
Show me where that is happening on a regular basis. 11yo vs. 15yo, It's not. Let's not take the extreme examples of the one time you heard about a team where they might have done that once and positing that it is a nefarious issue across all of 2027 lacrosse tournaments - you can't because it doesn't happen. We're talking players that should be maybe rising sophomores who are playing vs. rising 7th graders.

C'mon man


Play fair, head-ups, on age, and there is no issue. Start to move off of that, there are always those lurking in the shadows to abuse. That is why we have the problem now. The slippery slope has attracted the unethical, and if US Lax and/or the clubs will not fix it, call out the abusers.
,


Hold backs will never go away. The Clubs are in the recruiting business, they want to get kids recruited to the highest possible level. College coaches want the best athletes and lacrosse players. They will always recruit the best kid which happens to be the holdbacks most of the time. One thing that is going to happen and is already happening to some degree is many of the holdbacks are not getting recruited or are not getting recruited to the schools they thought they would. On the other hand the top 2022 and 2023 holdbacks still would have been the top tier recruits if they didn't hold back. Its either you are good or you are not. Youth lacrosse really should be aged base until HS then go by recruiting years at that point. that's always been my opinion.
Nobody else on here complaining about holdbacks except 91 parents. It's their mantra ...they're just setting up the excuses for next season . They have been doing it for years ....crying about holdbacks even when there are no holdbacks on a team . It's justifies their losing . Now they will keep saying " when we were on age we won the world series"....nobody cares ....move on . You'll always have a new excuse and a new complaint , sour grapes .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Bearded_Kaos
Originally Posted by Anonymous
People really think that a 20 year old vs 24 is the same as 11vs 15? Or pick any similar age range. If you dont understand the difference you need to stick to other conversations and take some A & P classes before you return


Thank you
Show me where that is happening on a regular basis. 11yo vs. 15yo, It's not. Let's not take the extreme examples of the one time you heard about a team where they might have done that once and positing that it is a nefarious issue across all of 2027 lacrosse tournaments - you can't because it doesn't happen. We're talking players that should be maybe rising sophomores who are playing vs. rising 7th graders.

C'mon man

Someone above tried to draw a parallel that if yout kid is not facing it now ( going vs orhers 4 years older)They will in college. 11 vs 15 is just arbitrary numbers
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody else on here complaining about holdbacks except 91 parents. It's their mantra ...they're just setting up the excuses for next season . They have been doing it for years ....crying about holdbacks even when there are no holdbacks on a team . It's justifies their losing . Now they will keep saying " when we were on age we won the world series"....nobody cares ....move on . You'll always have a new excuse and a new complaint , sour grapes .

This has nothing to do with 91. Has everything to do with holdback dads, like you, pretending to be a big tough guy - telling others to stop whining, when your kid is so weak he cannot play on age. If you want an unfair advantage, go play on age on the girls side. That is better than this holdback garbage. Man up and play on age or clam up and take the rightful beating that you deserve.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody else on here complaining about holdbacks except 91 parents. It's their mantra ...they're just setting up the excuses for next season . They have been doing it for years ....crying about holdbacks even when there are no holdbacks on a team . It's justifies their losing . Now they will keep saying " when we were on age we won the world series"....nobody cares ....move on . You'll always have a new excuse and a new complaint , sour grapes .

This has nothing to do with 91. Has everything to do with holdback dads, like you, pretending to be a big tough guy - telling others to stop whining, when your kid is so weak he cannot play on age. If you want an unfair advantage, go play on age on the girls side. That is better than this holdback garbage. Man up and play on age or clam up and take the rightful beating that you deserve.

Thanks for the advice
You people are stunads. The holdback thing while the parent is telling their kid they are not good enough to play on age so play down an age which to me is an insult to your kid. Best part even the on age players actually continue to develop while hold backs got already got caught up to in size while they had been already surpassed in skill by the smaller player that wasn’t re-classed that had to only relying on their skill.
Hashtag Dis-service to your kid!!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody else on here complaining about holdbacks except 91 parents. It's their mantra ...they're just setting up the excuses for next season . They have been doing it for years ....crying about holdbacks even when there are no holdbacks on a team . It's justifies their losing . Now they will keep saying " when we were on age we won the world series"....nobody cares ....move on . You'll always have a new excuse and a new complaint , sour grapes .

This has nothing to do with 91. Has everything to do with holdback dads, like you, pretending to be a big tough guy - telling others to stop whining, when your kid is so weak he cannot play on age. If you want an unfair advantage, go play on age on the girls side. That is better than this holdback garbage. Man up and play on age or clam up and take the rightful beating that you deserve.

Thanks for the advice


Sounds about right always make it about something else.. poor little Johnny is beating on his chest in high school telling his friends they beat every team they played ima 2027 bracket . Huge joke it’s embarrassing for the child and the parents . But continue 🤡
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people are stunads. The holdback thing while the parent is telling their kid they are not good enough to play on age so play down an age which to me is an insult to your kid. Best part even the on age players actually continue to develop while hold backs got already got caught up to in size while they had been already surpassed in skill by the smaller player that wasn’t re-classed that had to only relying on their skill.
Hashtag Dis-service to your kid!!!!



Agree with this .
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nobody else on here complaining about holdbacks except 91 parents. It's their mantra ...they're just setting up the excuses for next season . They have been doing it for years ....crying about holdbacks even when there are no holdbacks on a team . It's justifies their losing . Now they will keep saying " when we were on age we won the world series"....nobody cares ....move on . You'll always have a new excuse and a new complaint , sour grapes .

This has nothing to do with 91. Has everything to do with holdback dads, like you, pretending to be a big tough guy - telling others to stop whining, when your kid is so weak he cannot play on age. If you want an unfair advantage, go play on age on the girls side. That is better than this holdback garbage. Man up and play on age or clam up and take the rightful beating that you deserve.

Can we please take this to the holdback forum? My kid is not a holdback and I’m tired of hearing about it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.

You are correct. People will have to fight adversity their whole lives but it doesn’t need to start at this age group. Kids should be playing kids their own age. That’s final. When they get to high school where no one actually should care about club anymore, let them reclass to their hearts delight when they can’t hack it against their own age group. But in the mean time let kids be kids and they let them play for the fun of the game before you introduce the Hunger Games aspect into their lacrosse lives.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.

You are correct. People will have to fight adversity their whole lives but it doesn’t need to start at this age group. Kids should be playing kids their own age. That’s final. When they get to high school where no one actually should care about club anymore, let them reclass to their hearts delight when they can’t hack it against their own age group. But in the mean time let kids be kids and they let them play for the fun of the game before you introduce the Hunger Games aspect into their lacrosse lives.

We’re talking about rising 8th graders so one year away from high school. Let it go.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.

You are correct. People will have to fight adversity their whole lives but it doesn’t need to start at this age group. Kids should be playing kids their own age. That’s final. When they get to high school where no one actually should care about club anymore, let them reclass to their hearts delight when they can’t hack it against their own age group. But in the mean time let kids be kids and they let them play for the fun of the game before you introduce the Hunger Games aspect into their lacrosse lives.

We’re talking about rising 8th graders so one year away from high school. Let it go.

NO! It shouldn’t happen anytime before High-school!! Period!! Let the hunger games begin in HS! Until then, let the kids develop all in fairness of “on age”!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.

You are correct. People will have to fight adversity their whole lives but it doesn’t need to start at this age group. Kids should be playing kids their own age. That’s final. When they get to high school where no one actually should care about club anymore, let them reclass to their hearts delight when they can’t hack it against their own age group. But in the mean time let kids be kids and they let them play for the fun of the game before you introduce the Hunger Games aspect into their lacrosse lives.

We’re talking about rising 8th graders so one year away from high school. Let it go.

Terrible that my kid will be in HS next year and need to compete with some kids 4 to 5 years older. Joke. HS doesn’t level the playing field so stop with that excuse. Just look at the ages of top ten recruits from last 5 years and you will see that the majority are holdbacks. I’ll never stop talking holdbacks until something is done about it. holdback parents and reclassified kids should be ashamed and embarrassed. I hope my kid overcomes and puts your kid on the bench.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.

You are correct. People will have to fight adversity their whole lives but it doesn’t need to start at this age group. Kids should be playing kids their own age. That’s final. When they get to high school where no one actually should care about club anymore, let them reclass to their hearts delight when they can’t hack it against their own age group. But in the mean time let kids be kids and they let them play for the fun of the game before you introduce the Hunger Games aspect into their lacrosse lives.
Well, it's final. I guess no one else gets to have an opinion.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.

You are correct. People will have to fight adversity their whole lives but it doesn’t need to start at this age group. Kids should be playing kids their own age. That’s final. When they get to high school where no one actually should care about club anymore, let them reclass to their hearts delight when they can’t hack it against their own age group. But in the mean time let kids be kids and they let them play for the fun of the game before you introduce the Hunger Games aspect into their lacrosse lives.

We’re talking about rising 8th graders so one year away from high school. Let it go.

Terrible that my kid will be in HS next year and need to compete with some kids 4 to 5 years older. Joke. HS doesn’t level the playing field so stop with that excuse. Just look at the ages of top ten recruits from last 5 years and you will see that the majority are holdbacks. I’ll never stop talking holdbacks until something is done about it. holdback parents and reclassified kids should be ashamed and embarrassed. I hope my kid overcomes and puts your kid on the bench.

No one can stop you from constantly complaining on anonymous lacrosse forums but based on your own admission about the age of college athletes, you’ll be complaining a long time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.

You are correct. People will have to fight adversity their whole lives but it doesn’t need to start at this age group. Kids should be playing kids their own age. That’s final. When they get to high school where no one actually should care about club anymore, let them reclass to their hearts delight when they can’t hack it against their own age group. But in the mean time let kids be kids and they let them play for the fun of the game before you introduce the Hunger Games aspect into their lacrosse lives.

We’re talking about rising 8th graders so one year away from high school. Let it go.

NO! It shouldn’t happen anytime before High-school!! Period!! Let the hunger games begin in HS! Until then, let the kids develop all in fairness of “on age”!

That's one way to look at it.
But, as I alluded to in a previous post - speaking from a Club and HS coach's perspective: every single parent/player/family that has had this mindset going into HS is also the ones that are most astonished when the player suddenly can't handle facing players a few years older. Those parents are also the single most vocal ones who go to the coach, AD and administration whining about why their kid isn't playing/starting/on varsity and the player has little to know tools in their arsenal to deal with adversity. And why should they? All they've learned is that when there is a perceived unfairness. Their parents will complain to someone and get it fixed for them.

Your son should leave each spring and club season already prepared for the next season and if he wants to be at the truly high level, even beyond that. Do you honestly think that he's suddenly going to figure it out the second he hits high school? No way. You are already creating a situation where your son is unprepared to handle it once he gets there.

Your son - regardless what age he is playing at - will 100% face opponents who are bigger, better, stronger and more skilled than him. It wont be all the time, but it will happen. If he does not have the skills to adapt to this, he isn't going to suddenly manifest it out of thin air just because he's suddenly a 9th grader.
Can we please get back to how great 91 Machine is and how even though they stopped playing at the end of the season, they would have beaten the 2026 Lax Black team in the 2027 NLF?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.

You are correct. People will have to fight adversity their whole lives but it doesn’t need to start at this age group. Kids should be playing kids their own age. That’s final. When they get to high school where no one actually should care about club anymore, let them reclass to their hearts delight when they can’t hack it against their own age group. But in the mean time let kids be kids and they let them play for the fun of the game before you introduce the Hunger Games aspect into their lacrosse lives.

We’re talking about rising 8th graders so one year away from high school. Let it go.

NO! It shouldn’t happen anytime before High-school!! Period!! Let the hunger games begin in HS! Until then, let the kids develop all in fairness of “on age”!

That's one way to look at it.
But, as I alluded to in a previous post - speaking from a Club and HS coach's perspective: every single parent/player/family that has had this mindset going into HS is also the ones that are most astonished when the player suddenly can't handle facing players a few years older. Those parents are also the single most vocal ones who go to the coach, AD and administration whining about why their kid isn't playing/starting/on varsity and the player has little to know tools in their arsenal to deal with adversity. And why should they? All they've learned is that when there is a perceived unfairness. Their parents will complain to someone and get it fixed for them.

Your son should leave each spring and club season already prepared for the next season and if he wants to be at the truly high level, even beyond that. Do you honestly think that he's suddenly going to figure it out the second he hits high school? No way. You are already creating a situation where your son is unprepared to handle it once he gets there.

Your son - regardless what age he is playing at - will 100% face opponents who are bigger, better, stronger and more skilled than him. It wont be all the time, but it will happen. If he does not have the skills to adapt to this, he isn't going to suddenly manifest it out of thin air just because he's suddenly a 9th grader.

well holdback dad,

Rather than playing against older/stronger kids to get better in club, you play down against smaller less developed players. You cannot have it both ways. High schools have freshman, JV and varsity programs to sort this all out. Club is supposed to sort it out by grade, but there are too many fools out there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
well holdback dad,

Rather than playing against older/stronger kids to get better in club, you play down against smaller less developed players. You cannot have it both ways. High schools have freshman, JV and varsity programs to sort this all out. Club is supposed to sort it out by grade, but there are too many fools out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.

You are correct. People will have to fight adversity their whole lives but it doesn’t need to start at this age group. Kids should be playing kids their own age. That’s final. When they get to high school where no one actually should care about club anymore, let them reclass to their hearts delight when they can’t hack it against their own age group. But in the mean time let kids be kids and they let them play for the fun of the game before you introduce the Hunger Games aspect into their lacrosse lives.

We’re talking about rising 8th graders so one year away from high school. Let it go.

NO! It shouldn’t happen anytime before High-school!! Period!! Let the hunger games begin in HS! Until then, let the kids develop all in fairness of “on age”!

That's one way to look at it.
But, as I alluded to in a previous post - speaking from a Club and HS coach's perspective: every single parent/player/family that has had this mindset going into HS is also the ones that are most astonished when the player suddenly can't handle facing players a few years older. Those parents are also the single most vocal ones who go to the coach, AD and administration whining about why their kid isn't playing/starting/on varsity and the player has little to know tools in their arsenal to deal with adversity. And why should they? All they've learned is that when there is a perceived unfairness. Their parents will complain to someone and get it fixed for them.

Your son should leave each spring and club season already prepared for the next season and if he wants to be at the truly high level, even beyond that. Do you honestly think that he's suddenly going to figure it out the second he hits high school? No way. You are already creating a situation where your son is unprepared to handle it once he gets there.

Your son - regardless what age he is playing at - will 100% face opponents who are bigger, better, stronger and more skilled than him. It wont be all the time, but it will happen. If he does not have the skills to adapt to this, he isn't going to suddenly manifest it out of thin air just because he's suddenly a 9th grader.

well holdback dad,

Rather than playing against older/stronger kids to get better in club, you play down against smaller less developed players. You cannot have it both ways. High schools have freshman, JV and varsity programs to sort this all out. Club is supposed to sort it out by grade, but there are too many fools out there.

Once again, not a dad of any club kids yet. Just a club/HS coach trying to help the otherwise under-informed.
You are only proving the point I continue to make.

There's 2 sides to this:
1. the ones that complain their kid has to play older/stronger/better kids. I've gone to some length on this already so I will keep it simple: Your sone is a 7th or 8th grader. You WILL see this for the rest of your playing days. The earlier you get used it, gain some experience with it, the better off you will eventually be.

To the parent of those kids: Stop trying to plow an easier path forward for them because you are doing them far more long-term damage than good. I see this all the time when these parents hit HS they can not handle the fact their son is not yet prepared to take on kids that are older/stronger/better.

2. The kids that are playing down against younger/weaker/lesser kids: You aren't helping yourself either because in the next year or two, instead of dominating weaker players and teams you are now getting the ball stripped from you before your third step and you have no skills to deal with it because you've been used to running through 3 defenders with ole' checks and scoring 7 goals a game.

Parents of THOSE: See point one. It isn't helping your son develop. I see THIS all the time too. You've dominated youth and club ball in 7th and 8th grade and you play the same towns and teams in HS and get your rears handed to you because - you haven't been challenged and you haven't grown past this stage.

In summation: within the next 1-2 years you will NEVER play against only on-age players ever again. So, quit the whining, accept the reality for what it is - no it should not be that way, but it is - and develop yourself into a better player equipped to handle the challenges you are 100% going to face for the rest of your playing days.
I appreciate your perspective coach. But you can get down off your soap box on parenting techniques.

What I don't appreciate is people saying - "It is what it is it, and it isn't going to change".

Why isn't it going to change?? It is getting more out of control every year. When is it too much?

As lacrosse becomes more popular, and more nationally competitive, this becomes a bigger and more obvious issue. Back when my '21 was a rising 8th grader, there were some holdbacks, and of course kids who had grown and kids who hadn't but now it is the majority of the kids on the more competitive 2027 teams. With the addition of "national" teams into the mix, they are recruiting blindly so size plays an even bigger factor, and more and more kids are being forced to reclass if they want to keep up. So tired of seeing my team getting injured by kids that have 60 lbs on them. It's boys against men and it's not safe. 2 ER visits after our last tournament. Anyone that is telling me to quit whining either has a holdback or has a kid on a b team where this is not as much of an issue. Clearly size and strength is becoming more important than ever in the game. Barely any kids under 6' on most of the D1 rosters, and very few that are "on age". It doesn't have to start in middle school.
Once again, not a dad of any club kids yet. Just a club/HS coach trying to help the otherwise under-informed.
You are only proving the point I continue to make.

There's 2 sides to this:
1. the ones that complain their kid has to play older/stronger/better kids. I've gone to some length on this already so I will keep it simple: Your sone is a 7th or 8th grader. You WILL see this for the rest of your playing days. The earlier you get used it, gain some experience with it, the better off you will eventually be.

To the parent of those kids: Stop trying to plow an easier path forward for them because you are doing them far more long-term damage than good. I see this all the time when these parents hit HS they can not handle the fact their son is not yet prepared to take on kids that are older/stronger/better.

2. The kids that are playing down against younger/weaker/lesser kids: You aren't helping yourself either because in the next year or two, instead of dominating weaker players and teams you are now getting the ball stripped from you before your third step and you have no skills to deal with it because you've been used to running through 3 defenders with ole' checks and scoring 7 goals a game.

Parents of THOSE: See point one. It isn't helping your son develop. I see THIS all the time too. You've dominated youth and club ball in 7th and 8th grade and you play the same towns and teams in HS and get your rears handed to you because - you haven't been challenged and you haven't grown past this stage.

In summation: within the next 1-2 years you will NEVER play against only on-age players ever again. So, quit the whining, accept the reality for what it is - no it should not be that way, but it is - and develop yourself into a better player equipped to handle the challenges you are 100% going to face for the rest of your playing days.[/quote]


Coach,

You are a major part of the problem. The fact you come and here and try to justify 13 year olds beating up on 11 year olds (you are not saying that directly, but that is where your thinking goes) is laughable before you even say it. Again, do not ignore this point, high school sorts this out with freshman, JV and varsity programs. Every other sport in the US has figured it out but somehow lacrosse cannot. Could you imagine a bunch of AAU basketball 11 year olds trying to compete with 13 year olds? The only reason players are held back is to gain an unfair competitive advantage.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Once again, not a dad of any club kids yet. Just a club/HS coach trying to help the otherwise under-informed.
You are only proving the point I continue to make.

There's 2 sides to this:
1. the ones that complain their kid has to play older/stronger/better kids. I've gone to some length on this already so I will keep it simple: Your sone is a 7th or 8th grader. You WILL see this for the rest of your playing days. The earlier you get used it, gain some experience with it, the better off you will eventually be.

To the parent of those kids: Stop trying to plow an easier path forward for them because you are doing them far more long-term damage than good. I see this all the time when these parents hit HS they can not handle the fact their son is not yet prepared to take on kids that are older/stronger/better.

2. The kids that are playing down against younger/weaker/lesser kids: You aren't helping yourself either because in the next year or two, instead of dominating weaker players and teams you are now getting the ball stripped from you before your third step and you have no skills to deal with it because you've been used to running through 3 defenders with ole' checks and scoring 7 goals a game.

Parents of THOSE: See point one. It isn't helping your son develop. I see THIS all the time too. You've dominated youth and club ball in 7th and 8th grade and you play the same towns and teams in HS and get your rears handed to you because - you haven't been challenged and you haven't grown past this stage.

In summation: within the next 1-2 years you will NEVER play against only on-age players ever again. So, quit the whining, accept the reality for what it is - no it should not be that way, but it is - and develop yourself into a better player equipped to handle the challenges you are 100% going to face for the rest of your playing days.


Coach,

You are a major part of the problem. The fact you come and here and try to justify 13 year olds beating up on 11 year olds (you are not saying that directly, but that is where your thinking goes) is laughable before you even say it. Again, do not ignore this point, high school sorts this out with freshman, JV and varsity programs. Every other sport in the US has figured it out but somehow lacrosse cannot. Could you imagine a bunch of AAU basketball 11 year olds trying to compete with 13 year olds? The only reason players are held back is to gain an unfair competitive advantage.[/quote]

Ummm......a lot of AAU and rec basktball leagues ARE grade based. There are also some youth Football leagues that are grade based. There are some age perimeters with these grade based leagues but they are pretty liberal and allow 1-2 year variances.
I am not holdback dad or a coach. I am parent of an on age 2027 who is a a starter on a top 5 team. I agree with the coach. My son was lucky enough to play for a middle school team and when he was in 6th grade he struggled playing 8th graders but it was a blessing for him because it pushed him to get better.That was the message I got from the previous poster’s response.

I understand that you are frustrated with the system as it stands but most of the people on this forum probably aren’t even holdback parents. So I’m not quite sure your message is getting to the intended targets.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Once again, not a dad of any club kids yet. Just a club/HS coach trying to help the otherwise under-informed.
You are only proving the point I continue to make.

There's 2 sides to this:
1. the ones that complain their kid has to play older/stronger/better kids. I've gone to some length on this already so I will keep it simple: Your sone is a 7th or 8th grader. You WILL see this for the rest of your playing days. The earlier you get used it, gain some experience with it, the better off you will eventually be.

To the parent of those kids: Stop trying to plow an easier path forward for them because you are doing them far more long-term damage than good. I see this all the time when these parents hit HS they can not handle the fact their son is not yet prepared to take on kids that are older/stronger/better.

2. The kids that are playing down against younger/weaker/lesser kids: You aren't helping yourself either because in the next year or two, instead of dominating weaker players and teams you are now getting the ball stripped from you before your third step and you have no skills to deal with it because you've been used to running through 3 defenders with ole' checks and scoring 7 goals a game.

Parents of THOSE: See point one. It isn't helping your son develop. I see THIS all the time too. You've dominated youth and club ball in 7th and 8th grade and you play the same towns and teams in HS and get your rears handed to you because - you haven't been challenged and you haven't grown past this stage.

In summation: within the next 1-2 years you will NEVER play against only on-age players ever again. So, quit the whining, accept the reality for what it is - no it should not be that way, but it is - and develop yourself into a better player equipped to handle the challenges you are 100% going to face for the rest of your playing days.


Coach,

You are a major part of the problem. The fact you come and here and try to justify 13 year olds beating up on 11 year olds (you are not saying that directly, but that is where your thinking goes) is laughable before you even say it. Again, do not ignore this point, high school sorts this out with freshman, JV and varsity programs. Every other sport in the US has figured it out but somehow lacrosse cannot. Could you imagine a bunch of AAU basketball 11 year olds trying to compete with 13 year olds? The only reason players are held back is to gain an unfair competitive advantage.

Ummm......a lot of AAU and rec basktball leagues ARE grade based. There are also some youth Football leagues that are grade based. There are some age perimeters with these grade based leagues but they are pretty liberal and allow 1-2 year variances.[/quote]

I'm not justifying it. I've said now multiple times, it should not be this way, but it IS this way. Deal with reality as it is not the pretend utopia we all wish is were.
Should the club teams until HS play on age? Yes. Do some take advantage? Yes. Should they be allowed? No. Until the collective lacrosse minds get together it is unlikely to change soon so maybe *MAYBE* we also figure out a way to make it to our advantage instead of blindly tilting at windmills all the time.

BUT at the 7th and 8th grade level it is not nearly the end of the world situation people are making it out to be for one and for another, you are completely ignorant of the gigantic advantage it *could* give your son but providing them the tools to deal with it now so WHEN it gets sorted in HS his expectation levels aren't completely off-kilter.

You are taking it to the extreme to try and undermine what I am saying. This is a 2027 forum we're talking kids that are 1-2 years away from HS. We aren't talking about 11 vs. 13 year olds. we are talking kids that are about to or hitting puberty and about to hit HS level.

Big difference.

Does HS sort that out between Varsity JV and Freshman. Yes it does as it should. And if you're truly reading what I am saying - WHEN that happens, because it does as a natural course of progression, the kids that haven't faced the adversity ever because mommy and daddy like to smooth the path for them are ill equipped to handle this. Further, those Parents are far and away the biggest complainers to coaches, ADs and Administrators about playing time, not making the "right" team, etc. Often they place the blame where? On the coaches who they claim don't know what they are doing.

Is that pattern sounding familiar?
When my sons play youth football, we have to submit a birth certificate. Each age has a November 30 birthday cutoff. Additionally they also have maximum weights for Roster (beginning of season) and Game. Kids were weighed before each game. There are NO exceptions to Roster or Game weight. Heavy kids can move up one year if they can make that weight limit.
Love the comments but accepting won’t make the hold back situation!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Once again, not a dad of any club kids yet. Just a club/HS coach trying to help the otherwise under-informed.
You are only proving the point I continue to make.

There's 2 sides to this:
1. the ones that complain their kid has to play older/stronger/better kids. I've gone to some length on this already so I will keep it simple: Your sone is a 7th or 8th grader. You WILL see this for the rest of your playing days. The earlier you get used it, gain some experience with it, the better off you will eventually be.

To the parent of those kids: Stop trying to plow an easier path forward for them because you are doing them far more long-term damage than good. I see this all the time when these parents hit HS they can not handle the fact their son is not yet prepared to take on kids that are older/stronger/better.

2. The kids that are playing down against younger/weaker/lesser kids: You aren't helping yourself either because in the next year or two, instead of dominating weaker players and teams you are now getting the ball stripped from you before your third step and you have no skills to deal with it because you've been used to running through 3 defenders with ole' checks and scoring 7 goals a game.

Parents of THOSE: See point one. It isn't helping your son develop. I see THIS all the time too. You've dominated youth and club ball in 7th and 8th grade and you play the same towns and teams in HS and get your rears handed to you because - you haven't been challenged and you haven't grown past this stage.

In summation: within the next 1-2 years you will NEVER play against only on-age players ever again. So, quit the whining, accept the reality for what it is - no it should not be that way, but it is - and develop yourself into a better player equipped to handle the challenges you are 100% going to face for the rest of your playing days.


Coach,

You are a major part of the problem. The fact you come and here and try to justify 13 year olds beating up on 11 year olds (you are not saying that directly, but that is where your thinking goes) is laughable before you even say it. Again, do not ignore this point, high school sorts this out with freshman, JV and varsity programs. Every other sport in the US has figured it out but somehow lacrosse cannot. Could you imagine a bunch of AAU basketball 11 year olds trying to compete with 13 year olds? The only reason players are held back is to gain an unfair competitive advantage.

Ummm......a lot of AAU and rec basktball leagues ARE grade based. There are also some youth Football leagues that are grade based. There are some age perimeters with these grade based leagues but they are pretty liberal and allow 1-2 year variances.

I'm not justifying it. I've said now multiple times, it should not be this way, but it IS this way. Deal with reality as it is not the pretend utopia we all wish is were.
Should the club teams until HS play on age? Yes. Do some take advantage? Yes. Should they be allowed? No. Until the collective lacrosse minds get together it is unlikely to change soon so maybe *MAYBE* we also figure out a way to make it to our advantage instead of blindly tilting at windmills all the time.

BUT at the 7th and 8th grade level it is not nearly the end of the world situation people are making it out to be for one and for another, you are completely ignorant of the gigantic advantage it *could* give your son but providing them the tools to deal with it now so WHEN it gets sorted in HS his expectation levels aren't completely off-kilter.

You are taking it to the extreme to try and undermine what I am saying. This is a 2027 forum we're talking kids that are 1-2 years away from HS. We aren't talking about 11 vs. 13 year olds. we are talking kids that are about to or hitting puberty and about to hit HS level.

Big difference.

Does HS sort that out between Varsity JV and Freshman. Yes it does as it should. And if you're truly reading what I am saying - WHEN that happens, because it does as a natural course of progression, the kids that haven't faced the adversity ever because mommy and daddy like to smooth the path for them are ill equipped to handle this. Further, those Parents are far and away the biggest complainers to coaches, ADs and Administrators about playing time, not making the "right" team, etc. Often they place the blame where? On the coaches who they claim don't know what they are doing.

Is that pattern sounding familiar?[/quote]


Coach, First I appreciate the level-headed discussion, but we just fundamentally disagree. To sum it up, your position is that you do not condone it and it is not right, but it is actually beneficial for the on-age player to play against an older player. I think that may be true for a very few on-age players, but for many on age players it is just getting outmatched physically by an older larger kid. And what happens if one holdback per team turns into 10, which is happening. Sure we can teach lessons about hard work and life not being fair, but that does not justify the situation. Maybe the holdback players should play up a year, rather than down a year, so they can experience the same type of character building you are claiming to be so important for the on-age players. Or maybe the on-age kid that thinks all this character building is important can play up an age so they can learn against bigger players. But in no universe should the player be held back, it is unfair and the holdback player is not learning all the valuable lessons that you claim are so important for the on-age player to learn.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is where the issue is with everyone complaining about playing against other teams that aren't on age. I'm coming from the perspective of a travel and HS coach with multiple years of experience. My kids are young and just starting to play, so to head off the obvious retort: no, not a parent of a holdback player.

1. you can complain about it all you want, but your son is hearing it. So all they are learning that it is something out of their control and not their fault so when they lose or can't beat a better, older player it's because the system is rigged, not because they need to put more work in to get better.
2. Those kids then get to high school and SHOCKER they are now playing against kids 3-5 years age difference - which will be true for the rest of their playing days.
3. almost universally, every parent that sees their special little boy score 100 goals a year in youth an club ball suddenly can't break the lineup on JV and god-forbid they aren't on the varsity team freshman year because they can't beat out kids who are 3-5 years older than them. The conversation EVERY TIME: Well my son is a starter on his club team and he's done this and this, and his club coach tells us how great he is. That's all great, but in practice, he can't get past my 6th defenseman and has no off-hand and every time he tries to run through the entire defense he gets put on his butt and the ball's going the other way.
4. those same kids can't handle the adversity because they've never had to face it before. Mommy and Daddy have been paving the way for so long that now when it is up to them, they don't have the skills and experience to face it and they fold.
5. You can complain all you want, but that isn't changing it. This is the reality. Is it fair? Should it be this way? Probably not, but its the way it is. So when all your whining and complaining is done, your son still has to go out and face it and he is doing it without any experience or tools to handle it. How about you expend that energy working with your son to get through it and handle the adversity and prepare them for it because he WILL face it in the future.

I have heard this year in and year out and the only thing that changes is there are more people to have the same conversation with.

You are correct. People will have to fight adversity their whole lives but it doesn’t need to start at this age group. Kids should be playing kids their own age. That’s final. When they get to high school where no one actually should care about club anymore, let them reclass to their hearts delight when they can’t hack it against their own age group. But in the mean time let kids be kids and they let them play for the fun of the game before you introduce the Hunger Games aspect into their lacrosse lives.
Well, it's final. I guess no one else gets to have an opinion.

Says the passive aggressive holdback dad living his dreams through their kid.

Yeah. You are right. Let set the cutoff at seventh grade because they are only two years from high school. Or why not third grade because they are only 6 years from high school. Better yet let’s set it at kindergarten because they are only 9 yeas from high school. We must teach them adversity now!!

It should be an 8th grade cutoff where the age disparity actually makes a bigger difference. If a parent is shocked when they hit high school that there is an age and size difference then that’s on them. And then I would argue the exact opposite: kids should be playing up and not play down as a holdback. If it is truly about getting “better” all the holdback parents have it backwards. Play up and get your butt kicked to get better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Once again, not a dad of any club kids yet. Just a club/HS coach trying to help the otherwise under-informed.
You are only proving the point I continue to make.

There's 2 sides to this:
1. the ones that complain their kid has to play older/stronger/better kids. I've gone to some length on this already so I will keep it simple: Your sone is a 7th or 8th grader. You WILL see this for the rest of your playing days. The earlier you get used it, gain some experience with it, the better off you will eventually be.

To the parent of those kids: Stop trying to plow an easier path forward for them because you are doing them far more long-term damage than good. I see this all the time when these parents hit HS they can not handle the fact their son is not yet prepared to take on kids that are older/stronger/better.

2. The kids that are playing down against younger/weaker/lesser kids: You aren't helping yourself either because in the next year or two, instead of dominating weaker players and teams you are now getting the ball stripped from you before your third step and you have no skills to deal with it because you've been used to running through 3 defenders with ole' checks and scoring 7 goals a game.

Parents of THOSE: See point one. It isn't helping your son develop. I see THIS all the time too. You've dominated youth and club ball in 7th and 8th grade and you play the same towns and teams in HS and get your rears handed to you because - you haven't been challenged and you haven't grown past this stage.

In summation: within the next 1-2 years you will NEVER play against only on-age players ever again. So, quit the whining, accept the reality for what it is - no it should not be that way, but it is - and develop yourself into a better player equipped to handle the challenges you are 100% going to face for the rest of your playing days.


Coach,

You are a major part of the problem. The fact you come and here and try to justify 13 year olds beating up on 11 year olds (you are not saying that directly, but that is where your thinking goes) is laughable before you even say it. Again, do not ignore this point, high school sorts this out with freshman, JV and varsity programs. Every other sport in the US has figured it out but somehow lacrosse cannot. Could you imagine a bunch of AAU basketball 11 year olds trying to compete with 13 year olds? The only reason players are held back is to gain an unfair competitive advantage.

Ummm......a lot of AAU and rec basktball leagues ARE grade based. There are also some youth Football leagues that are grade based. There are some age perimeters with these grade based leagues but they are pretty liberal and allow 1-2 year variances.

I'm not justifying it. I've said now multiple times, it should not be this way, but it IS this way. Deal with reality as it is not the pretend utopia we all wish is were.
Should the club teams until HS play on age? Yes. Do some take advantage? Yes. Should they be allowed? No. Until the collective lacrosse minds get together it is unlikely to change soon so maybe *MAYBE* we also figure out a way to make it to our advantage instead of blindly tilting at windmills all the time.

BUT at the 7th and 8th grade level it is not nearly the end of the world situation people are making it out to be for one and for another, you are completely ignorant of the gigantic advantage it *could* give your son but providing them the tools to deal with it now so WHEN it gets sorted in HS his expectation levels aren't completely off-kilter.

You are taking it to the extreme to try and undermine what I am saying. This is a 2027 forum we're talking kids that are 1-2 years away from HS. We aren't talking about 11 vs. 13 year olds. we are talking kids that are about to or hitting puberty and about to hit HS level.

Big difference.

Does HS sort that out between Varsity JV and Freshman. Yes it does as it should. And if you're truly reading what I am saying - WHEN that happens, because it does as a natural course of progression, the kids that haven't faced the adversity ever because mommy and daddy like to smooth the path for them are ill equipped to handle this. Further, those Parents are far and away the biggest complainers to coaches, ADs and Administrators about playing time, not making the "right" team, etc. Often they place the blame where? On the coaches who they claim don't know what they are doing.

Is that pattern sounding familiar?


Coach, First I appreciate the level-headed discussion, but we just fundamentally disagree. To sum it up, your position is that you do not condone it and it is not right, but it is actually beneficial for the on-age player to play against an older player. I think that may be true for a very few on-age players, but for many on age players it is just getting outmatched physically by an older larger kid. And what happens if one holdback per team turns into 10, which is happening. Sure we can teach lessons about hard work and life not being fair, but that does not justify the situation. Maybe the holdback players should play up a year, rather than down a year, so they can experience the same type of character building you are claiming to be so important for the on-age players. Or maybe the on-age kid that thinks all this character building is important can play up an age so they can learn against bigger players. But in no universe should the player be held back, it is unfair and the holdback player is not learning all the valuable lessons that you claim are so important for the on-age player to learn.[/quote]

Agree with this guy. Play up or playing on age if you really want your kid to get better. And the coach keeps saying that 7th and 8th graders are close enough to high school and should have hit puberty so their growth curve is already closely aligned with high schoolers? Yeah. No. Whoever said 8th grade should be the cut off and no holdbacks before 8th grade and that’s final; I think that’s perfectly reasonable. That’s what they have multiple teams in high school to sort it out. And the argument that the 9th graders are going to be shell shocked by the sudden size difference and not figure it out in 9th grade? I’ll argue they wouldn’t have been ready anyways. And if you are that worried about it then play UP before you get to high school. Playing down achieves nothin prior to high school.
The problem that exists is with the parents that have held their kid back prior to high school and don’t embrace/admit it. Those parents that get over passionate on the sidelines knowing their kid is older than most of the other kids on the field. Just admit it, give the courteous golf clap and accept the fact you had to hold your kid back to win and/or compete. As a parent of an on age 2027 I thank you for making my kid better. And in 2 or 3 years better than your kid. And when I then reclass my kid, I will keep my head down, acknowledge he is a repeat and internally smile as he kicks the garbage out of younger kids on the club circuit.
Any cost of clubs can anyone share this season ?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Once again, not a dad of any club kids yet. Just a club/HS coach trying to help the otherwise under-informed.
You are only proving the point I continue to make.

There's 2 sides to this:
1. the ones that complain their kid has to play older/stronger/better kids. I've gone to some length on this already so I will keep it simple: Your sone is a 7th or 8th grader. You WILL see this for the rest of your playing days. The earlier you get used it, gain some experience with it, the better off you will eventually be.

To the parent of those kids: Stop trying to plow an easier path forward for them because you are doing them far more long-term damage than good. I see this all the time when these parents hit HS they can not handle the fact their son is not yet prepared to take on kids that are older/stronger/better.

2. The kids that are playing down against younger/weaker/lesser kids: You aren't helping yourself either because in the next year or two, instead of dominating weaker players and teams you are now getting the ball stripped from you before your third step and you have no skills to deal with it because you've been used to running through 3 defenders with ole' checks and scoring 7 goals a game.

Parents of THOSE: See point one. It isn't helping your son develop. I see THIS all the time too. You've dominated youth and club ball in 7th and 8th grade and you play the same towns and teams in HS and get your rears handed to you because - you haven't been challenged and you haven't grown past this stage.

In summation: within the next 1-2 years you will NEVER play against only on-age players ever again. So, quit the whining, accept the reality for what it is - no it should not be that way, but it is - and develop yourself into a better player equipped to handle the challenges you are 100% going to face for the rest of your playing days.


Coach,

You are a major part of the problem. The fact you come and here and try to justify 13 year olds beating up on 11 year olds (you are not saying that directly, but that is where your thinking goes) is laughable before you even say it. Again, do not ignore this point, high school sorts this out with freshman, JV and varsity programs. Every other sport in the US has figured it out but somehow lacrosse cannot. Could you imagine a bunch of AAU basketball 11 year olds trying to compete with 13 year olds? The only reason players are held back is to gain an unfair competitive advantage.

Ummm......a lot of AAU and rec basktball leagues ARE grade based. There are also some youth Football leagues that are grade based. There are some age perimeters with these grade based leagues but they are pretty liberal and allow 1-2 year variances.

I'm not justifying it. I've said now multiple times, it should not be this way, but it IS this way. Deal with reality as it is not the pretend utopia we all wish is were.
Should the club teams until HS play on age? Yes. Do some take advantage? Yes. Should they be allowed? No. Until the collective lacrosse minds get together it is unlikely to change soon so maybe *MAYBE* we also figure out a way to make it to our advantage instead of blindly tilting at windmills all the time.

BUT at the 7th and 8th grade level it is not nearly the end of the world situation people are making it out to be for one and for another, you are completely ignorant of the gigantic advantage it *could* give your son but providing them the tools to deal with it now so WHEN it gets sorted in HS his expectation levels aren't completely off-kilter.

You are taking it to the extreme to try and undermine what I am saying. This is a 2027 forum we're talking kids that are 1-2 years away from HS. We aren't talking about 11 vs. 13 year olds. we are talking kids that are about to or hitting puberty and about to hit HS level.

Big difference.

Does HS sort that out between Varsity JV and Freshman. Yes it does as it should. And if you're truly reading what I am saying - WHEN that happens, because it does as a natural course of progression, the kids that haven't faced the adversity ever because mommy and daddy like to smooth the path for them are ill equipped to handle this. Further, those Parents are far and away the biggest complainers to coaches, ADs and Administrators about playing time, not making the "right" team, etc. Often they place the blame where? On the coaches who they claim don't know what they are doing.

Is that pattern sounding familiar?


Coach, First I appreciate the level-headed discussion, but we just fundamentally disagree. To sum it up, your position is that you do not condone it and it is not right, but it is actually beneficial for the on-age player to play against an older player. I think that may be true for a very few on-age players, but for many on age players it is just getting outmatched physically by an older larger kid. And what happens if one holdback per team turns into 10, which is happening. Sure we can teach lessons about hard work and life not being fair, but that does not justify the situation. Maybe the holdback players should play up a year, rather than down a year, so they can experience the same type of character building you are claiming to be so important for the on-age players. Or maybe the on-age kid that thinks all this character building is important can play up an age so they can learn against bigger players. But in no universe should the player be held back, it is unfair and the holdback player is not learning all the valuable lessons that you claim are so important for the on-age player to learn.

Agree with this guy. Play up or playing on age if you really want your kid to get better. And the coach keeps saying that 7th and 8th graders are close enough to high school and should have hit puberty so their growth curve is already closely aligned with high schoolers? Yeah. No. Whoever said 8th grade should be the cut off and no holdbacks before 8th grade and that’s final; I think that’s perfectly reasonable. That’s what they have multiple teams in high school to sort it out. And the argument that the 9th graders are going to be shell shocked by the sudden size difference and not figure it out in 9th grade? I’ll argue they wouldn’t have been ready anyways. And if you are that worried about it then play UP before you get to high school. Playing down achieves nothin prior to high school.[/quote]


Here is the ironic thing about holdbacks and reclasses....if your son is such a fool shouldn't he be a game changer at his age level ? I don't care what anyone does out of state . If your son is really that special he should be a game changer at his age group and should have no problem when playing teams with holdbacks etc....so I guess he's not that good?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Once again, not a dad of any club kids yet. Just a club/HS coach trying to help the otherwise under-informed.
You are only proving the point I continue to make.

There's 2 sides to this:
1. the ones that complain their kid has to play older/stronger/better kids. I've gone to some length on this already so I will keep it simple: Your sone is a 7th or 8th grader. You WILL see this for the rest of your playing days. The earlier you get used it, gain some experience with it, the better off you will eventually be.

To the parent of those kids: Stop trying to plow an easier path forward for them because you are doing them far more long-term damage than good. I see this all the time when these parents hit HS they can not handle the fact their son is not yet prepared to take on kids that are older/stronger/better.

2. The kids that are playing down against younger/weaker/lesser kids: You aren't helping yourself either because in the next year or two, instead of dominating weaker players and teams you are now getting the ball stripped from you before your third step and you have no skills to deal with it because you've been used to running through 3 defenders with ole' checks and scoring 7 goals a game.

Parents of THOSE: See point one. It isn't helping your son develop. I see THIS all the time too. You've dominated youth and club ball in 7th and 8th grade and you play the same towns and teams in HS and get your rears handed to you because - you haven't been challenged and you haven't grown past this stage.

In summation: within the next 1-2 years you will NEVER play against only on-age players ever again. So, quit the whining, accept the reality for what it is - no it should not be that way, but it is - and develop yourself into a better player equipped to handle the challenges you are 100% going to face for the rest of your playing days.


Coach,

You are a major part of the problem. The fact you come and here and try to justify 13 year olds beating up on 11 year olds (you are not saying that directly, but that is where your thinking goes) is laughable before you even say it. Again, do not ignore this point, high school sorts this out with freshman, JV and varsity programs. Every other sport in the US has figured it out but somehow lacrosse cannot. Could you imagine a bunch of AAU basketball 11 year olds trying to compete with 13 year olds? The only reason players are held back is to gain an unfair competitive advantage.

Ummm......a lot of AAU and rec basktball leagues ARE grade based. There are also some youth Football leagues that are grade based. There are some age perimeters with these grade based leagues but they are pretty liberal and allow 1-2 year variances.

I'm not justifying it. I've said now multiple times, it should not be this way, but it IS this way. Deal with reality as it is not the pretend utopia we all wish is were.
Should the club teams until HS play on age? Yes. Do some take advantage? Yes. Should they be allowed? No. Until the collective lacrosse minds get together it is unlikely to change soon so maybe *MAYBE* we also figure out a way to make it to our advantage instead of blindly tilting at windmills all the time.

BUT at the 7th and 8th grade level it is not nearly the end of the world situation people are making it out to be for one and for another, you are completely ignorant of the gigantic advantage it *could* give your son but providing them the tools to deal with it now so WHEN it gets sorted in HS his expectation levels aren't completely off-kilter.

You are taking it to the extreme to try and undermine what I am saying. This is a 2027 forum we're talking kids that are 1-2 years away from HS. We aren't talking about 11 vs. 13 year olds. we are talking kids that are about to or hitting puberty and about to hit HS level.

Big difference.

Does HS sort that out between Varsity JV and Freshman. Yes it does as it should. And if you're truly reading what I am saying - WHEN that happens, because it does as a natural course of progression, the kids that haven't faced the adversity ever because mommy and daddy like to smooth the path for them are ill equipped to handle this. Further, those Parents are far and away the biggest complainers to coaches, ADs and Administrators about playing time, not making the "right" team, etc. Often they place the blame where? On the coaches who they claim don't know what they are doing.

Is that pattern sounding familiar?


Coach, First I appreciate the level-headed discussion, but we just fundamentally disagree. To sum it up, your position is that you do not condone it and it is not right, but it is actually beneficial for the on-age player to play against an older player. I think that may be true for a very few on-age players, but for many on age players it is just getting outmatched physically by an older larger kid. And what happens if one holdback per team turns into 10, which is happening. Sure we can teach lessons about hard work and life not being fair, but that does not justify the situation. Maybe the holdback players should play up a year, rather than down a year, so they can experience the same type of character building you are claiming to be so important for the on-age players. Or maybe the on-age kid that thinks all this character building is important can play up an age so they can learn against bigger players. But in no universe should the player be held back, it is unfair and the holdback player is not learning all the valuable lessons that you claim are so important for the on-age player to learn.[/quote]

I agree with you on the level-headed discussion. Happy to have it and while i concede I am in a narrow band of focus, it also ins't a be all/end all position either. I fully appreciate that there are always outliers and it is an increasingly problematic issue. As a coach, I am always looking for ways to maximize opportunity for my current and future players as well.
Here is the ironic thing about holdbacks and reclasses....if your son is such a fool shouldn't he be a game changer at his age level ? I don't care what anyone does out of state . If your son is really that special he should be a game changer at his age group and should have no problem when playing teams with holdbacks etc....so I guess he's not that good?[/quote]

This is not a very smart comment. Is your point the on-age kid is not good because he cannot beat an older kid? What does that say about your kid holdback dad?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here is the ironic thing about holdbacks and reclasses....if your son is such a fool shouldn't he be a game changer at his age level ? I don't care what anyone does out of state . If your son is really that special he should be a game changer at his age group and should have no problem when playing teams with holdbacks etc....so I guess he's not that good?

This is not a very smart comment. Is your point the on-age kid is not good because he cannot beat an older kid? What does that say about your kid holdback dad?[/quote]

You have misinterpreted everything I just said ....it's quite the opposite of what you have understood . What I am saying is against holdbacks and reclasses not for them . I was saying that if you're son is such a stud then why hold him back or reclass him ...if he is a stud then he should be able to stay on age and be dominant.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Here is the ironic thing about holdbacks and reclasses....if your son is such a fool shouldn't he be a game changer at his age level ? I don't care what anyone does out of state . If your son is really that special he should be a game changer at his age group and should have no problem when playing teams with holdbacks etc....so I guess he's not that good?

This is not a very smart comment. Is your point the on-age kid is not good because he cannot beat an older kid? What does that say about your kid holdback dad?

You have misinterpreted everything I just said ....it's quite the opposite of what you have understood . What I am saying is against holdbacks and reclasses not for them . I was saying that if you're son is such a stud then why hold him back or reclass him ...if he is a stud then he should be able to stay on age and be dominant.[/quote]

Check out the D1 commits to top lacrosse schools! How many on age? Just curious? It’s the nature of the beast now, if your kid wants to play in a top D1 program. Just the reality of the game now.

So, parents do the holdback thing as early as possible!! More time to develop and will dominate early. Sorry, it’s just what the game is kind of requiring now. SAD but true.
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