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Use this thread to discuss lacrosse pertaining to Girls 2027 (7th Graders) pertaining to the Fall 2021/Summer 2022 season.
Thoughts on Jesters for this year? Is it more for the average player? Who are the coaches?
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Thoughts on Jesters for this year? Is it more for the average player? Who are the coaches?

Not sure about coaches but their A team is pretty good and the B team isn’t. This is solely based on research I did on their results from tournaments this summer.
Is the Liberty B team walk on or do they actually make cuts? Nobody seems to mention this team.
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Thoughts on Jesters for this year? Is it more for the average player? Who are the coaches?

Not sure about coaches but their A team is pretty good and the B team isn’t. This is solely based on research I did on their results from tournaments this summer.

Their A team is past summer was not good at all!
Couldn’t compete with any decent teams.
Coaches are good. There are some good girls on that team
Look at the losses. Tied a few and lost an handful of 1 and 2 goal games. They played some good teams. Adding a few good players will make them stronger.
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Is the Liberty B team walk on or do they actually make cuts? Nobody seems to mention this team.

Liberty Red is a walk-on. If your kid is serious about lax, don’t waste your money. Find another club
Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.
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Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.
agreed
Girls 2028...Thoughts on Liberty, FLG, 91 & Recon. Recon is new to this age. What are your thoughts in joining a brand new team with a really talented player?
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Girls 2028...Thoughts on Liberty, FLG, 91 & Recon. Recon is new to this age. What are your thoughts in joining a brand new team with a really talented player?

Wrong thread buddy
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Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.

TG and Liberty are not even close to YG and FLG at this age. I would say the YJ “B” team is better than both TG and Liberty A teams.
So much movement this tryout season - but YJ B team was not very good as it was. Strong players not on YJ Grazzy or FLG are finding those other strong teams to push to the next level - heck even girls on those first two teams have switched around this year. Interesting to see where it all shakes out.
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Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.
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Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.

Top Guns didn’t win one thing all season and there coaching
Is horrible.
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Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.
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Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.

Top Guns didn’t win one thing all season and there coaching
Is horrible.

As horrible as your grammar? I guess you never learned the difference between their or there. Or they’re!
Top Guns 27 ascending.....
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Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.
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Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.

Top Guns didn’t win one thing all season and there coaching
Is horrible.
Agree the TG coaching is horrible and yes they didn't win one thing all season. But at least they entered some real tournaments. FLG only played in cupcake tournaments, it would be interesting to see how they would do if they actually played some real tournaments.
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So much movement this tryout season - but YJ B team was not very good as it was. Strong players not on YJ Grazzy or FLG are finding those other strong teams to push to the next level - heck even girls on those first two teams have switched around this year. Interesting to see where it all shakes out.

My kid didn’t try out for many teams. What movement did you see? Curious where girls from Grazzy or FLG would go. Any other team would be a step down.
To be accurate for this age group, it’s YJ Grazadei, flg Navy then a pretty big drop off, liberty black, empire, YJ gaghan, TG black then a drop off, elevate, YJ Palermo, legacy, jesters, then a drop off for anyone else like blue devils, 91bandits and the b teams. And tradition is prob in the second grouping, but not sure if they count bc they’re just GC. Will be interesting to see if pieces shuffled around this summer and any changes among the top teams. MY guess is grazadei gets stronger
Top Gun’s will be very good next year. They had a tough year because half of the team belonged on purple. This year they will have a purple team and their top team will be very strong.
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Top Gun’s will be very good next year. They had a tough year because half of the team belonged on purple. This year they will have a purple team and their top team will be very strong.
Top Guns 27 black will be fine lost to Grazzy 27 at Hofstra tournament 10-5 playing all their kids against the 14 kids Grazzy plays all the time anyway.
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Top Gun’s will be very good next year. They had a tough year because half of the team belonged on purple. This year they will have a purple team and their top team will be very strong.
Top Guns 27 black will be fine lost to Grazzy 27 at Hofstra tournament 10-5 playing all their kids against the 14 kids Grazzy plays all the time anyway.

What’s the word on Grazzy? Been hearing that parents of girls who never see field are fuming and looking elsewhere
YJ Graz did not play Hofstra
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YJ Graz did not play Hofstra

Top Guns did equal playing time the whole Hofstra tournament.
They are talking about the North Shore team made up of almost entirely YJ Graz players including the one player the entire team runs through
sure
yes. guess he didn't get asked
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.
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How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

YJ is a top notch club. If there was a problem they will fix it. Great training and best tournaments.
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How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.
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How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.
I've seen a lot of talk about the parent coaches on this team but I don't think they are the issue. The head coach, Grazadei, is not a parent coach, and quite honestly he is the issue. This team is very good and could be great if they had the right coach.
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How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.
I've seen a lot of talk about the parent coaches on this team but I don't think they are the issue. The head coach, Grazadei, is not a parent coach, and quite honestly he is the issue. This team is very good and could be great if they had the right coach.[/quote]


Is that what most of the team parents feel or a few disgruntled ones? What’s the big problem with his coaching style? Seems good coaching almost impossible to find for this age
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How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.
I've seen a lot of talk about the parent coaches on this team but I don't think they are the issue. The head coach, Grazadei, is not a parent coach, and quite honestly he is the issue. This team is very good and could be great if they had the right coach.


Is that what most of the team parents feel or a few disgruntled ones? What’s the big problem with his coaching style? Seems good coaching almost impossible to find for this age[/quote]
Of course the disgruntled ones(more than a few) but also from a few starters. His coaching style is too yell at the girls the whole game. Personally I think at this age they need to make mistake and learn from them. It's hard to think for yourself when he is screaming in your ear. Also if you want your daughter to get better don't expect to get it from his practices. There is way too much sitting around. FYI he will be more than happy to take your money to privately train your girl. Then you have his communication skills, the way he talks to the kids and parents is ridiculous. This is the YJ A team they will always be good, even if they had a parent coach who never played they would still be good. This is a special team and could be great, just need the right coach to take them to that level, and sorry it's not him.
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To be accurate for this age group, it’s YJ Grazadei, flg Navy then a pretty big drop off, liberty black, empire, YJ gaghan, TG black then a drop off, elevate, YJ Palermo, legacy, jesters, then a drop off for anyone else like blue devils, 91bandits and the b teams. And tradition is prob in the second grouping, but not sure if they count bc they’re just GC. Will be interesting to see if pieces shuffled around this summer and any changes among the top teams. MY guess is grazadei gets stronger


Genuine question as this is our first kid going through lax on LI (in a younger age group) If you are on GC tradition in the second grouping, is it worth trying to get on onto a YJ/ tier 1 team or is the name of the game playing time hoping for the coaches to get our team to big tournaments. Thanks!
Couple thoughts, 1. Your daughter is no longer going to be on that team so your taking your shot at the coach. Sad. Move on. 2. Your daughter will still be on that team, and you continue to bring her to a team with a coach that you say is so terrible. Sad. Move on.
We won’t know how teams shake out until after yj tryouts at the end of the month.
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To be accurate for this age group, it’s YJ Grazadei, flg Navy then a pretty big drop off, liberty black, empire, YJ gaghan, TG black then a drop off, elevate, YJ Palermo, legacy, jesters, then a drop off for anyone else like blue devils, 91bandits and the b teams. And tradition is prob in the second grouping, but not sure if they count bc they’re just GC. Will be interesting to see if pieces shuffled around this summer and any changes among the top teams. MY guess is grazadei gets stronger


Genuine question as this is our first kid going through lax on LI (in a younger age group) If you are on GC tradition in the second grouping, is it worth trying to get on onto a YJ/ tier 1 team or is the name of the game playing time hoping for the coaches to get our team to big tournaments. Thanks!

Name of the game at younger age is def. training, playing and finding joy in the game! If your daughter not happy on a team. Don’t stay!
You should start to know by 7/8th grade the ability and commitment level of your kid. If they are serious and committed, Try to position your daughter on a team that suits her abilities. Changing teams after 8th will only get harder. There is every type of team on LI for every level of player. The “best” is what’s best for your kid! smile Good luck!
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How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

YJ is a top notch club. If there was a problem they will fix it. Great training and best tournaments.

Training is meh. You can pay extra for private training with coach if you want to. Practices are very technical focused on offensive plays which don't really work and revolve around the best player. I think if you polled most parents of starters and bench warmers very few would say their daughter got better. Team camaraderie is good but there is a lot of smack talk on the sidelines about the poor coaching. Team is loaded with talent so they can win despite all of it but sort of a lost year. Problem is if you're on the team looking for an alternative there really isn't much out there. If you're thinking of coming, your daughter probably isn't an upgrade and starters not changing. And only starters play in the important games which is basically all the games in the elite summer tournaments.
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How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

YJ is a top notch club. If there was a problem they will fix it. Great training and best tournaments.

Training is meh. You can pay extra for private training with coach if you want to. Practices are very technical focused on offensive plays which don't really work and revolved around the best player. I think if you polled most parents of starters and bench warmers very few would say their daughter got better. Team camaraderie is good but there is a lot of smack talk on the sidelines about the poor coaching. Team is loaded with talent so they can win despite all of it but sort of a lost year. Problem is if you're on the team looking for an alternative there really isn't much out there. If you're thinking of coming, your daughter probably isn't an upgrade and starters not changing. And only starters play in the important games which is basically all the games in the elite summer tournaments.

Sounds like every club except for the highly competitive tournaments. Basically you train on your own and play on a team where you can compete. Find that and you’ve found the right team. No matter where you are you need to train on your own. Get better and build confidence. If you are good get on a team that actually competes in real tournaments. Enjoy the ride.
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How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

As long as she isn’t a middie you’re fine.
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How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

As long as she isn’t a middie you’re fine.

She’s actually attack. How are the odds there?
It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.
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It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.

My daughter is coming back to grazzy but I’m still hoping there is a coaching change. Team could be so much better.
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It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.
Your delusional if you think it's only one parent who is complaining about how bad the coaching is. You might be surprised who is complaining about the head coach, I just hope people actually have the balls to say something to CR. Nothing will change if everyone just sits back and says nothing.
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It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.

My daughter is coming back to grazzy but I’m still hoping there is a coaching change. Team could be so much better.


Its a top-5 team, hard to argue with results. So the issue with coaching is the kids aren't learning X & Os, the subbing, technical stuff, verbal abuse, or all of the above?
My daughters team played you guys, and won, but it was clear there was one main scorer and a few others but I saw a talented team that took poor shots and was out of control with checks (refs called it tight which hurt you guys).
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How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

As long as she isn’t a middie you’re fine.

She’s actually attack. How are the odds there?
Good if she is quick, team could use a couple in the attack position.
What clubs that previously only had one team now have 2? Where are all these kids coming from? Are they leaving existing teams or are new players emerging? I am amazed that some of these clubs can field a second team.
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What clubs that previously only had one team now have 2? Where are all these kids coming from? Are they leaving existing teams or are new players emerging? I am amazed that some of these clubs can field a second team.


They’ll keep fielding as many as they can as long as the money clears. Some kids and parents are fine to be on a B or C team. Not everyone is in this for the long run.
Wow, look at you big man...evaluating little girls and speaking about one little girl in particular? You should email that parent directly since you feel so strongly. Dare you. Because you seem to know a LOT about girls lacrosse. Doesn't know how to play the game or hustle? Calm down and focus on your own daughter. Or post her number so we can evaluate her play right back. And your commitment to 12 year old girls lacrosse makes ME laugh. Have a little humility (look that up) and realize that just b/c your daughter plays right now, doesn't mean she always will. She's TWELVE ...don't count your chickens before they hatch...it's a long road.
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How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

As long as she isn’t a middie you’re fine.

She’s actually attack. How are the odds there?
Good if she is quick, team could use a couple in the attack position.

And just a heads up she won’t learn much in actual practice but the coach sends around really useful YouTube videos as part of your tuition. Next best to having practice I guess.
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It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.

My daughter is coming back to grazzy but I’m still hoping there is a coaching change. Team could be so much better.

The big issue on Grazzy is that they had 22-23 girls last year and had a 14-15 girl rotation until garbage time. That means 8 or 9 girls aren't going to get meaningful game experience. You don't want to go to Grazzy as a fringe player. Better off for development playing on the B team -- Gaghan
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It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.

My daughter is coming back to grazzy but I’m still hoping there is a coaching change. Team could be so much better.

The big issue on Grazzy is that they had 22-23 girls last year and had a 14-15 girl rotation until garbage time. That means 8 or 9 girls aren't going to get meaningful game experience. You don't want to go to Grazzy as a fringe player. Better off for development playing on the B team -- Gaghan

That is typically the case with any team. You have to find the right team for your child. You never want to be at the bottom of a team.
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It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.

My daughter is coming back to grazzy but I’m still hoping there is a coaching change. Team could be so much better.

The big issue on Grazzy is that they had 22-23 girls last year and had a 14-15 girl rotation until garbage time. That means 8 or 9 girls aren't going to get meaningful game experience. You don't want to go to Grazzy as a fringe player. Better off for development playing on the B team -- Gaghan

That is typically the case with any team. You have to find the right team for your child. You never want to be at the bottom of a team.


Much worse at YJ than at other places. Many other top clubs here or in MD will give most if not all players some burn in pool play games. (Best player obv play more). Look at FLG, TG, Heros, STEPS, Aces, most players play in most non-playoff games.
Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?
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Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.
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Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.
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Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.

YJ used to hold tryouts in early December so they've gotten better
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Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.

They’ll take YJ spots 26+++. The YJ rosters are ridiculous. Total money grab.
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Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.

They’ll take YJ spots 26+++. The YJ rosters are ridiculous. Total money grab.

Says the parent who's daughter can't make their teams.
They are always the best, so detest all you want. It's pure jealously.
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Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.

They’ll take YJ spots 26+++. The YJ rosters are ridiculous. Total money grab.

Says the parent who's daughter can't make their teams.
They are always the best, so detest all you want. It's pure jealously.

What are the roster sizes on average on the YJ teams?
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Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.

They’ll take YJ spots 26+++. The YJ rosters are ridiculous. Total money grab.

Says the parent who's daughter can't make their teams.
They are always the best, so detest all you want. It's pure jealously.

What are the roster sizes on average on the YJ teams?

Last year's rosters are still on their website, you can see for yourself.
What is the Ohana lacrosse club? Is it brand new? Who runs it?
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What is the Ohana lacrosse club? Is it brand new? Who runs it?

Looks brand new on the girls side. I have never heard of it on the boys side either. I would have to do some more research. I wouldn’t necessarily count a new club out. S2S started with one boys team and in just a few short years have built that program out. Their girls side started with just 3 teams and now some of the years already have 2 teams. Pick an organization that fits your kid. Don’t be on an A team just to say she plays on an A team. If she doesn’t get to play that won’t help her improve. Some clubs are really hardcore. Will that incentivize her or burn her out? Do you want to travel off LI every weekend or are you good with more local tournaments. I have older kids so have been through this from start to finish. Understand your kids end game. Do they want to be a d1 commit? Or do you want them to be a d1 commit? Full rides are not a thing. If you are banking on a scholarship you may be disappointed. My daughter plays because she loves the game. We picked a team that matched her personality. If she plays in college because she wants to great. That will be up to her. Don’t let the crazy stink you in! Some of the parents are living vicariously through their kids.
I think it’s great we live in an area with so many options. There is a team out there for every type of kid and the type of player they want to be. If it’s for fun and making friends and doing something they enjoy without having to be over the top serious, that’s awesome! There’s a team for that.

Pick fun , Especially at the younger ages. Let them have fun and enjoy it, then go from there as they develop their game. See where “they” want to go with it. You will know if your daughter is truly enjoying it, if you don’t have to “make them go” to practice and games!
Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go
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Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.
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Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.
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Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

where did the girls who left black go?
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Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

Are you sure about that? Sounds off to me. Don’t think they’d take kids who’ve never played before. I heard they picked up some good players from other teams.
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Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

Are you sure about that? Sounds off to me. Don’t think they’d take kids who’ve never played before. I heard they picked up some good players from other teams.

100% sure as I know one. Picked up good players from where?
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Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

where did the girls who left black go?

At least 2 went to YJ.
YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.
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Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

where did the girls who left black go?

A couple to yj and a couple to others.
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Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

Are you sure about that? Sounds off to me. Don’t think they’d take kids who’ve never played before. I heard they picked up some good players from other teams.

Truth. Heard the same thing from someone on another team in the org. Widely known some crazy parents on that team, extra practices, drama. A bunch left. replacements lower level than who left including the previously said first timers. Don’t know anything about red other than they take anyone. Time will tell for all teams. As being said, find a good place for your kid where they can grow and are happy. Wins/losses overrated.
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YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.
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YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.
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YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Find a team that is a good fit for your daughter. Don’t go to a YJ team to just sit the bench! Your daughter will be miserable. Be honest about daughters abilities and access the situation clearly.

There are So many teams on LI! Find one where “she” can thrive and enjoy actually playing the game! You parents will not be happy traveling every weekend either, if your daughter only gets a few min. Of playing time! Plus, the way to get better is playing in actual games. Not just practices and scrimmages. Also, better for your daughters morale and happiness to actually be in the games.
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YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Find a team that is a good fit for your daughter. Don’t go to a YJ team to just sit the bench! Your daughter will be miserable. Be honest about daughters abilities and access the situation clearly.

There are So many teams on LI! Find one where “she” can thrive and enjoy actually playing the game! You parents will not be happy traveling every weekend either, if your daughter only gets a few min. Of playing time! Plus, the way to get better is playing in actual games. Not just practices and scrimmages. Also, better for your daughters morale and happiness to actually be in the games.

Or volunteer to be an assistant coach.
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YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Find a team that is a good fit for your daughter. Don’t go to a YJ team to just sit the bench! Your daughter will be miserable. Be honest about daughters abilities and access the situation clearly.

There are So many teams on LI! Find one where “she” can thrive and enjoy actually playing the game! You parents will not be happy traveling every weekend either, if your daughter only gets a few min. Of playing time! Plus, the way to get better is playing in actual games. Not just practices and scrimmages. Also, better for your daughters morale and happiness to actually be in the games.

Or volunteer to be an assistant coach.

That's funny because it's true.
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YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Team would be better if mommy was the head coach. At least she played at a high level. Unclear what experience the other two have
It's easy said than done to find a team that my girl is a good fit, right? You don't really know the organization and more importantly the team itself until you spend some time with them and then it's a whole year before the next try out for another team. And then even you hear the reputation about certain teams, but girls move around and the dynamics could be quite different.

Any suggestions how?
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YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Team would be better if mommy was the head coach. At least she played at a high level. Unclear what experience the other two have
Agree, she would be a better fit for this team, I think most parents feel this way. I don't get all the middle age men coaching girls lax. You would think a women run org would try to get more women coaches. I know people aren't a fan of parent coaches, but I think she would be great for this team.
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It's easy said than done to find a team that my girl is a good fit, right? You don't really know the organization and more importantly the team itself until you spend some time with them and then it's a whole year before the next try out for another team. And then even you hear the reputation about certain teams, but girls move around and the dynamics could be quite different.

Any suggestions how?

Talking to other parents who have been in lacrosse on LI. Also, knowing the level of player your daughter is and her commitment. How serious she wants to be and where she wants to go with Lacrosse. Most people I know did end up moving teams once or twice. Trying to find the right fit. That def. gets harder in JH and HS age level. Talk to LI people with girls in lacrosse. They know the organizations. Plus, you need to get in a team your daughter will actually play on.
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It's easy said than done to find a team that my girl is a good fit, right? You don't really know the organization and more importantly the team itself until you spend some time with them and then it's a whole year before the next try out for another team. And then even you hear the reputation about certain teams, but girls move around and the dynamics could be quite different.

Any suggestions how?

Since this year's team selection is mostly done, I'll give you some advice for next year. In late May or early June call a director of one of the clubs you're interested in. Tell them you're interested in coming to their club but you'd like your daughter to "work in" at a practice to get a feel for things. In my experience, Directors almost always say yes. Then you can see the other girls, the coaching, and how your daughter fits in.
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It's easy said than done to find a team that my girl is a good fit, right? You don't really know the organization and more importantly the team itself until you spend some time with them and then it's a whole year before the next try out for another team. And then even you hear the reputation about certain teams, but girls move around and the dynamics could be quite different.

Any suggestions how?

Since this year's team selection is mostly done, I'll give you some advice for next year. In late May or early June call a director of one of the clubs you're interested in. Tell them you're interested in coming to their club but you'd like your daughter to "work in" at a practice to get a feel for things. In my experience, Directors almost always say yes. Then you can see the other girls, the coaching, and how your daughter fits in.

I haven’t heard of this “work-in” tactic before, but I guess it’s worth a try. Another suggestion is to go to other clubs’ clinics and camps and get a feel for how they run things, get to know the coaches, girls, etc.
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YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Team would be better if mommy was the head coach. At least she played at a high level. Unclear what experience the other two have

Agree, she would be a better fit for this team, I think most parents feel this way. I don't get all the middle age men coaching girls lax. You would think a women run org would try to get more women coaches. I know people aren't a fan of parent coaches, but I think she would be great for this team.

Agreed. Just a matter of time. Grazzy will flame out and number 2 will follow his kid to B team eventually.
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It's easy said than done to find a team that my girl is a good fit, right? You don't really know the organization and more importantly the team itself until you spend some time with them and then it's a whole year before the next try out for another team. And then even you hear the reputation about certain teams, but girls move around and the dynamics could be quite different.

Any suggestions how?

Is your daughter on a team this year? I have older kids as well as one at this age and I can honestly say I learned a ton watching the games. Listening to the coaches of other teams. Watching how the girls treated one another on the field. I would catch parts of other teams playing in between my kids games. Watching a coach during the game shows you a ton. Do the same girls sit most of the game? Does the coach yell? Is the coach giving instruction and taking time to talk to the girls in real time during the game? You also have to know your kid. How hard core do they want to be? Do THEY (not you) want to play in college some day? The biggest mistake I think parents make is chasing the A team at any cost. All A teams are not created equal. Sometimes you are better off being the top player on a B team than being at the bottom of an A team. If she isn’t on a team yet and wants to play travel
I wouldn’t have her sit idle this year. Call some of the clubs and see if anyone has spots (may be on their B team) it will give you a chance to experience travel and see some of the teams in action.
If YJ was the biggest winner with all this movement, who were the biggest losers?
FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,
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FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,

I would take Jesters off of that (they gained) and add Elevate! They have been on decline for the last couple of years
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FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,

Nonsense. Top players from above teams aren’t going to YJ to be the next sheep to pay and sit the bench.
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FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,
Don’t think the FLG team would agree.
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FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,

Nonsense. Top players from above teams aren’t going to YJ to be the next sheep to pay and sit the bench.

So where do you think they went? The teams definitely lost some of their top talent.
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FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,

Nonsense. Top players from above teams aren’t going to YJ to be the next sheep to pay and sit the bench.

So where do you think they went? The teams definitely lost some of their top talent.

They stayed.
FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense
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FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.
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FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.

Liberty also definitely lost
Gains were greater than their losses - keep telling yourself that
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FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.
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FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.

From my count lost 4 to YJ picked up 5
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FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.
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FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.

From my count lost 4 to YJ picked up 5

welcome to YJ! someone has to pay for the coaches hotels.
Where did the top talent from liberty go?
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Where did the top talent from liberty go?

YJ
Does top talent from every team eventually end up at YJ?
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Does top talent from every team eventually end up at YJ?

There and TG.
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Does top talent from every team eventually end up at YJ?

In the past, due to getting their teams into top tournaments and attention for recruiting years. Although, I think that has changed in the past couple of years.

There are many very good LI clubs who go to the same tournaments and have had great success in getting their girls recruited! Lots of good team opportunities for LI girls. Find a team that your daughter will be happy on and actually play on in 7/8th/9th grade! Playing in the games in these years is crucial to get her better. Don’t go to a club for the name and sit the bench at tourneys! This def. will not help in recruiting come 10th grade
Yes and agree
What is the standard practice of paying for the club fees? When you were offered a spot on a team, you pay a certain amount of deposit to "commit" to a team. What if you got a better offer 2 weeks later from another team? Looks like you'd be out of luck with the deposit, but am I liable to pay the rest of the fee? TIA.
Bigger problem is YJ has part ownership of all the ‘top tournaments’ so people feel that they must play there to get in those tourneys, the last poster is right, a ton of good teams on LI and more and more teams getting in these ‘top tournaments’ , there are a ton of good tk tourneys out there but ultimately YJ just padding their pockets bc this false narrative! Go to a team where your daughter has a good coach and will play, I know the YJ A team only played about 12-14 girls at most tourneys with a roster of 24!!!! In this age group, Flg, liberty, and empire all have Good HS coaches there, as well as YJA and YJB, not sure of the coaches at other clubs, But it’s not worth being on a team if you’re on the bench at this age!
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What is the standard practice of paying for the club fees? When you were offered a spot on a team, you pay a certain amount of deposit to "commit" to a team. What if you got a better offer 2 weeks later from another team? Looks like you'd be out of luck with the deposit, but am I liable to pay the rest of the fee? TIA.

Did you sign a contract or anything ?
No further liability. You just lose your deposit. Did it once and was well worth it. I chose to lose my initial deposit rather than suffer through a summer where I would be pissed off.
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What is the standard practice of paying for the club fees? When you were offered a spot on a team, you pay a certain amount of deposit to "commit" to a team. What if you got a better offer 2 weeks later from another team? Looks like you'd be out of luck with the deposit, but am I liable to pay the rest of the fee? TIA.

Did you sign a contract or anything ?

Did not sign a contract but by accepting the position, certain "terms" were agreed. But the terms are clear on no refunds but not clear otherwise.
Did the terms have one payment to reserve a spot? Or was it a payment plan of consecutive payments?
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Did the terms have one payment to reserve a spot? Or was it a payment plan of consecutive payments?

You can choose either one of the two options. From the terms, it really wasn't well laid out, I'm curious what other people have experienced when they switched clubs, not just in my case.
If it’s a better opportunity then you have to do what’s best for your kid.
How are the teams after the A for YJ ?
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How are the teams after the A for YJ ?

And how many on YJ A and B rosters?
way too many
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way too many

26+?
one player?
If you switch clubs after you commit, you eat your down payment. I’ve never heard of anyone getting a refund…ever.
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way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.
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way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


They have the best model. Everyone makes a team. No cuts. Grazzy new girls in for a rude awakening traveling to DE turf for 3 games in Nov.
Best model to make a profit. 25 kids on a roster where you're playing games with 18 -22 minutes in a half = not much playing time for any kid.
Best roster size is 20...... 2 middie lines, 6 attack 6 defense and 2 goalies..
True. Especially since colleges are only taking 3-4 recruits from the latest classes, not the traditional 9-10. Money grab.
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Best roster size is 20...... 2 middie lines, 6 attack 6 defense and 2 goalies..
100%
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Best model to make a profit. 25 kids on a roster where you're playing games with 18 -22 minutes in a half = not much playing time for any kid.
There will be plenty of playing time for the starters. The issue is the big bench. They will have little or no playing time.
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Best roster size is 20...... 2 middie lines, 6 attack 6 defense and 2 goalies..

In perfect world, yes, but this doesn't leave a lot of room for injuries or multi sport athletes missing a fall tournament.
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way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.
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way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

Which is the C team? Looks like they moved up several girls from the B team. Sorry for all those girls who will realize quickly only a small group get the minutes and coaches kids get the other minutes.
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way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

Which is the C team? Looks like they moved up several girls from the B team. Sorry for all those girls who will realize quickly only a small group get the minutes and coaches kids get the other minutes.
Piscitelli is the C/Nassau Team. It looks like only a couple girls were moved up. Any girl that is highlighted is someone who was not a YJ last year.
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way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

Which is the C team? Looks like they moved up several girls from the B team. Sorry for all those girls who will realize quickly only a small group get the minutes and coaches kids get the other minutes.

Well the daddy and mommy are now the head coach and assistant and grazzy demoted to goalie coach? Lol. Sux for all those that kissed his Meanyand paid for those privates.
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way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

Which is the C team? Looks like they moved up several girls from the B team. Sorry for all those girls who will realize quickly only a small group get the minutes and coaches kids get the other minutes.

Well the daddy and mommy are now the head coach and assistant and grazzy demoted to goalie coach? Lol. Sux for all those that kissed his Meanyand paid for those privates.
Hopefully daddy & Mommy make some changes, also can't believe he is still sticking around to be a goalie coach, how insulting is that.
Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?
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way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

Which is the C team? Looks like they moved up several girls from the B team. Sorry for all those girls who will realize quickly only a small group get the minutes and coaches kids get the other minutes.

Well the daddy and mommy are now the head coach and assistant and grazzy demoted to goalie coach? Lol. Sux for all those that kissed his Meanyand paid for those privates.

Doesn’t seem to have deterred people from going to yellow jackets. Picking up 22 girls is a lot. Have any of the other clubs picked up that many? None have 3 teams. And some of the other teams seem to have very tight rosters and their B teams are on life support. Not a YJ parent but people seem to want to flock there. Looking at the numbers for the year up they didn’t seem to take as many new girls. Wonder why this age is so hot.
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Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
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Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
Mommy is Leonard, and agree with above , she should be head coach.
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.
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The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.
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Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
Mommy is Leonard, and agree with above , she should be head coach.

It's a girls team. Choose the qualified female coach with a very impressive background in the sport. It's actually insulting, especially coming from a female club owner. The daddy coach has zero lacrosse experience, not even a former mens player. What qualifies him? Not a great lesson for the girls.
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Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
Mommy is Leonard, and agree with above , she should be head coach.

It's a girls team. Choose the qualified female coach with a very impressive background in the sport. It's actually insulting, especially coming from a female club owner. The daddy coach has zero lacrosse experience, not even a former mens player. What qualifies him? Not a great lesson for the girls.

Before you go jumping on the Leonard band wagon. Find out why she was fired from Mount Sinai? I mean she brought them to the finals and out of nowhere gone after they lost…… Ohhhh don’t forget how she left the 2027 Team 91 girls team in shambles giving them a few hours notice before she bolted for YJ 2027 tryouts. Quality coaching at its best….. Team Grazzy all the way!
sounds like she'll fit right in over there
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Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
Mommy is Leonard, and agree with above , she should be head coach.

It's a girls team. Choose the qualified female coach with a very impressive background in the sport. It's actually insulting, especially coming from a female club owner. The daddy coach has zero lacrosse experience, not even a former mens player. What qualifies him? Not a great lesson for the girls.

Before you go jumping on the Leonard band wagon. Find out why she was fired from Mount Sinai? I mean she brought them to the finals and out of nowhere gone after they lost…… Ohhhh don’t forget how she left the 2027 Team 91 girls team in shambles giving them a few hours notice before she bolted for YJ 2027 tryouts. Quality coaching at its best….. Team Grazzy all the way!

Mommyball at its finest then. Sounds like she went where it was best for her kid, regardless of the impact on the team. Other parents should beware.
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Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
Mommy is Leonard, and agree with above , she should be head coach.

It's a girls team. Choose the qualified female coach with a very impressive background in the sport. It's actually insulting, especially coming from a female club owner. The daddy coach has zero lacrosse experience, not even a former mens player. What qualifies him? Not a great lesson for the girls.

Before you go jumping on the Leonard band wagon. Find out why she was fired from Mount Sinai? I mean she brought them to the finals and out of nowhere gone after they lost…… Ohhhh don’t forget how she left the 2027 Team 91 girls team in shambles giving them a few hours notice before she bolted for YJ 2027 tryouts. Quality coaching at its best….. Team Grazzy all the way!
Quality and Grazzy should not be in the same sentence.
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses
You can see the rankings/record here for last year....https://www.USCL.com/rank?y=2020&alpha=N&v=2027
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As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

I wouldn’t base my decision on an organization solely based on wins and losses. There was a lot of movement this year so some of the teams that are on that list will get better & some will be worse and teams that aren’t on the list yet may make it this year. Take everything on this page with a grain of salt. Lots of smack talk and disgruntled parents. Invest time in going to see some games. Talk to parents with kids on the team. Being a bench player on an A team isn’t worth the time and money. Being on a B team isn’t always bad. You want your kid to get better year over year and get time on the field. YJ has some strong teams. But at what cost? They seem to only play their top 14 or so and carry 24 on a roster. FLG is the same. Sure they both win a lot but half the team sits. Liberty was next in the ranks but lost a lot of top talent this year because of nonsense that went on. Empire and Elevate added talent because people have had enough of the nonsense in other organizations. Jesters has 3 teams. 2 which some will say aren’t competitive and are straight money grabs. S2S is new to the arena but went from 1 2027 team to 2. They added some solid coaches and seem to be up and coming. Pick what fits your kid and your lifestyle. Is she a 1 sport kid? Does she want to be at lax practice 4 days a week? Do you want to pay extra for “voluntary” practices. Are you ok with tournaments away every weekend in the summer? Do the research.
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.
Anyone know what happened to the YJ B team player whose Dad is a cop, crazy on the sidelines? Looks like they are not on the new YJ rosters. Wonder if the Dad had anything to do with that or they left voluntarily?
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.
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As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.
FLG carries 18 and they all play and play multiple positions.
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

Maybe but the point is you now have the north shore and manhasset varsity coaches there. If you don’t think that’s going to draw those girls in you are crazy. But time will tell right? Seems like every year is going to be the year of a lot of kids moving and that always seems to fall apart. Obviously still multiple yj teams and flg navy. The rest will play itself out.
S2S will be mediocre for years. you kind of need a superteam to make a splash. they had that on the boys side and it attracted a lot of kids. Girls.....let's hope that its not just a money grab and their kids actually improve.
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S2S will be mediocre for years. you kind of need a superteam to make a splash. they had that on the boys side and it attracted a lot of kids. Girls.....let's hope that its not just a money grab and their kids actually improve.

How many boys clubs have been able to build a top notch girls program that got girls recruited into top schools? Express? FLG? 91? Girls teams are a total money grab for these clubs, hs coach or not.
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

Volume does not equal quality. You have to look at the level of the play and what kind of girls they’re drawing in. I know a large number of them never played club or lax for that matter. That doesn’t mean it’s not a valuable opp for those girls. But it won’t be a legit club for a while, if it gets there.
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

If the top players left, it’s an indicator that the parents didn’t see the team going anywhere. Parents leave when they know their kids can do better. Not a good sign for Liberty.
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

Volume does not equal quality. You have to look at the level of the play and what kind of girls they’re drawing in. I know a large number of them never played club or lax for that matter. That doesn’t mean it’s not a valuable opp for those girls. But it won’t be a legit club for a while, if it gets there.

You know the large number of girls never played how? Liberty just took some that have never played before on their A team. So did Empire. What does it say for those established clubs? I think if you can come off a 1st season with a terrible record and still attract girls to a club it says something. The liberty B team is walk on and has been around awhile and still didn’t get a lot of girls to sign up this year. Speaks volumes. My kid doesn’t play for S2S so I guess this season will tell if they improved or not. I think the amount of movement seen this years shows that people aren’t happy and will go elsewhere.
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

If the top players left, it’s an indicator that the parents didn’t see the team going anywhere. Parents leave when they know their kids can do better. Not a good sign for Liberty.

Agree but also there a decent amount of delusional parents out there that think the grass is greener, my kid is better than that kid, etc. don’t know who or why people left. I did hear 2 or 3 age groups at liberty that rosters bordering on not enough kids.
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

If the top players left, it’s an indicator that the parents didn’t see the team going anywhere. Parents leave when they know their kids can do better. Not a good sign for Liberty.

Agree but also there a decent amount of delusional parents out there that think the grass is greener, my kid is better than that kid, etc. don’t know who or why people left. I did hear 2 or 3 age groups at liberty that rosters bordering on not enough kids.

The Liberty 2024 team did pick up some very good players. That team will be very strong and perhaps could help the clubs reputation ?
You mean big draw from the prints hoping said coach give their daughter an advantage when they make varsity, most 7th grade girls not know about the varsity coaches yet.

Btw who coaches the 2027 S2S teams?

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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.
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You mean big draw from the prints hoping said coach give their daughter an advantage when they make varsity, most 7th grade girls not know about the varsity coaches yet.

Btw who coaches the 2027 S2S teams?

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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

You seem angry about this. I think many parents are aware of who coaches at their high schools. Some may have older daughters. Doesn’t mean you get an advantage when they get to high school per se but learning from someone who will be your future coach isn’t a bad thing. All the coaches are listed on their Instagram. I think the biggest take away is that S2S staffed up with quality coaches. People that do this for a living. Not just people that played in college. May mean nothing for them but it may work out. Time will tell.
We don’t play for Liberty but am in Central nassau and did go to there summer lacrosse clinics that DG organizes. Most of the girls we played with during the clinics played on Liberty and were friendly with my kid. They also had a couple of BC players there from championship team and cuse players ad well. Both were running some of the clinic. Don’t think they have parent coaching either so may transition to them next year. Am intrigued by S2S given the coaching but not sure where they practice. Want to avoid going to North Shore or Glen Head etc for practice. Would be great is someone knows the general location of practices (am near Mineola)
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We don’t play for Liberty but am in Central nassau and did go to there summer lacrosse clinics that DG organizes. Most of the girls we played with during the clinics played on Liberty and were friendly with my kid. They also had a couple of BC players there from championship team and cuse players ad well. Both were running some of the clinic. Don’t think they have parent coaching either so may transition to them next year. Am intrigued by S2S given the coaching but not sure where they practice. Want to avoid going to North Shore or Glen Head etc for practice. Would be great is someone knows the general location of practices (am near Mineola)

Holy child in old westbury and some training sessions in port Washington. Winters are at the hub. Results aside (they were not good last year) my daughter enjoyed it and I thought the instruction and coaching was good. Looks like they made some good additions but we’ll see what happens this year.
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We don’t play for Liberty but am in Central nassau and did go to there summer lacrosse clinics that DG organizes. Most of the girls we played with during the clinics played on Liberty and were friendly with my kid. They also had a couple of BC players there from championship team and cuse players ad well. Both were running some of the clinic. Don’t think they have parent coaching either so may transition to them next year. Am intrigued by S2S given the coaching but not sure where they practice. Want to avoid going to North Shore or Glen Head etc for practice. Would be great is someone knows the general location of practices (am near Mineola)

S2S practices at old westbury
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We don’t play for Liberty but am in Central nassau and did go to there summer lacrosse clinics that DG organizes. Most of the girls we played with during the clinics played on Liberty and were friendly with my kid. They also had a couple of BC players there from championship team and cuse players ad well. Both were running some of the clinic. Don’t think they have parent coaching either so may transition to them next year. Am intrigued by S2S given the coaching but not sure where they practice. Want to avoid going to North Shore or Glen Head etc for practice. Would be great is someone knows the general location of practices (am near Mineola)

Where do you currently play and why are you looking to switch? Just curious, I'm doing research for my daughter too.
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We don’t play for Liberty but am in Central nassau and did go to there summer lacrosse clinics that DG organizes. Most of the girls we played with during the clinics played on Liberty and were friendly with my kid. They also had a couple of BC players there from championship team and cuse players ad well. Both were running some of the clinic. Don’t think they have parent coaching either so may transition to them next year. Am intrigued by S2S given the coaching but not sure where they practice. Want to avoid going to North Shore or Glen Head etc for practice. Would be great is someone knows the general location of practices (am near Mineola)

Where do you currently play and why are you looking to switch? Just curious, I'm doing research for my daughter too.

Icon lax because close to home and daughters best friend was in team. just looking for more practice time during week, skill development and better coaching like everyone else. Just need a step up.
I thought icon didn’t have a 27 team
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As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..
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I thought icon didn’t have a 27 team

We are younger just saw someone discuss Liberty in an earlier thread so jumped in
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As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?
Great merch
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[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

hahahh.

For those in Nassau, what clubs would you consider?
From various threads, I would gather Jesters, Liberty, Tradition is you live in GC? Any other clubs that I’m missing? TG and YJ suffolk seems a bit of a hike tbh. appreciate any insight. Thank you.
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[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

hahahh.

For those in Nassau, what clubs would you consider?
From various threads, I would gather Jesters, Liberty, Tradition is you live in GC? Any other clubs that I’m missing? TG and YJ suffolk seems a bit of a hike tbh. appreciate any insight. Thank you.

Jesters has put a lot of effort into growth and development lately. They offer a lot of training and non parent coaching. They look like a great option for Nassau people. The directors are very committed and roster sizes are smaller than YJs
In Nassau you also have Elevate, Empire and FLG, Suffolk your missing Legacy, Blue Devils and 91/Bandits. For the most part this is a pretty competitive age group, where YJ Graz and FLG are at the top currently.

Take it with a grain of salt, but looking at US Club Rankings for LI at end of last season, heres where the LI teams ended up in the top 100:
#6 YJ Graz
#9 FLG Navy
#20 Liberty Black
#30 Empire
#31 YJ Gaghan
#36 Top Gun
#45 Jesters
#46 Elevate
#70 Blue Devils
#71 YJ Palermo
#72 Legacy
#80 LI Rush
#86 FLG White
#90 91/Bandits

Knowing those teams, unless something changed from last year, YJ Graz, YJ Gaghan, FLG Navy, Liberty Black, and Empire all have current or former Varsity coaches coaching those teams. I'm unsure who coaches the other teams so I can't speak about them, but in all cases there are a ton of good girls at this age playing quality lacrosse, and that's a great thing!
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In Nassau you also have Elevate, Empire and FLG, Suffolk your missing Legacy, Blue Devils and 91/Bandits. For the most part this is a pretty competitive age group, where YJ Graz and FLG are at the top currently.

Take it with a grain of salt, but looking at US Club Rankings for LI at end of last season, heres where the LI teams ended up in the top 100:
#6 YJ Graz
#9 FLG Navy
#20 Liberty Black
#30 Empire
#31 YJ Gaghan
#36 Top Gun
#45 Jesters
#46 Elevate
#70 Blue Devils
#71 YJ Palermo
#72 Legacy
#80 LI Rush
#86 FLG White
#90 91/Bandits

Knowing those teams, unless something changed from last year, YJ Graz, YJ Gaghan, FLG Navy, Liberty Black, and Empire all have current or former Varsity coaches coaching those teams. I'm unsure who coaches the other teams so I can't speak about them, but in all cases there are a ton of good girls at this age playing quality lacrosse, and that's a great thing!


Ahh Thank you so much!!
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In Nassau you also have Elevate, Empire and FLG, Suffolk your missing Legacy, Blue Devils and 91/Bandits. For the most part this is a pretty competitive age group, where YJ Graz and FLG are at the top currently.

Take it with a grain of salt, but looking at US Club Rankings for LI at end of last season, heres where the LI teams ended up in the top 100:
#6 YJ Graz
#9 FLG Navy
#20 Liberty Black
#30 Empire
#31 YJ Gaghan
#36 Top Gun
#45 Jesters
#46 Elevate
#70 Blue Devils
#71 YJ Palermo
#72 Legacy
#80 LI Rush
#86 FLG White
#90 91/Bandits

Knowing those teams, unless something changed from last year, YJ Graz, YJ Gaghan, FLG Navy, Liberty Black, and Empire all have current or former Varsity coaches coaching those teams. I'm unsure who coaches the other teams so I can't speak about them, but in all cases there are a ton of good girls at this age playing quality lacrosse, and that's a great thing!

Thanks for the list. Nice to see teams in Nassau ranked. The trek to suffolk is rough
Can someone please explain the purpose of the 7v7 tournaments? Does it provide for a more high speed game? Numbers on rosters too low? or something else.
Why can’t we just play in regular tournaments with full rosters and players on field?
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Can someone please explain the purpose of the 7v7 tournaments? Does it provide for a more high speed game? Numbers on rosters too low? or something else.
Why can’t we just play in regular tournaments with full rosters and players on field?

Smaller fields, so they can be played at smaller venues... you can get 3 7v7 fields across one standard field. Its a location thing. Secondarily, the idea is for faster play and more touches considering there are less girls in smaller spaces.
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In Nassau you also have Elevate, Empire and FLG, Suffolk your missing Legacy, Blue Devils and 91/Bandits. For the most part this is a pretty competitive age group, where YJ Graz and FLG are at the top currently.

Take it with a grain of salt, but looking at US Club Rankings for LI at end of last season, heres where the LI teams ended up in the top 100:
#6 YJ Graz
#9 FLG Navy
#20 Liberty Black
#30 Empire
#31 YJ Gaghan
#36 Top Gun
#45 Jesters
#46 Elevate
#70 Blue Devils
#71 YJ Palermo
#72 Legacy
#80 LI Rush
#86 FLG White
#90 91/Bandits

Knowing those teams, unless something changed from last year, YJ Graz, YJ Gaghan, FLG Navy, Liberty Black, and Empire all have current or former Varsity coaches coaching those teams. I'm unsure who coaches the other teams so I can't speak about them, but in all cases there are a ton of good girls at this age playing quality lacrosse, and that's a great thing!

Thanks for the list. Nice to see teams in Nassau ranked. The trek to suffolk is rough
take the rankings with a gratin if salt. These will change up this year with all the movement.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone please explain the purpose of the 7v7 tournaments? Does it provide for a more high speed game? Numbers on rosters too low? or something else.
Why can’t we just play in regular tournaments with full rosters and players on field?

Smaller fields, so they can be played at smaller venues... you can get 3 7v7 fields across one standard field. Its a location thing. Secondarily, the idea is for faster play and more touches considering there are less girls in smaller spaces.

So, really it’s a method to get more teams playing and can make more $s? 7v7s seem like a waste for girls over 5th grade? It’s just quick to goal , seems to be no real game play? Field too small fur older girls…?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone please explain the purpose of the 7v7 tournaments? Does it provide for a more high speed game? Numbers on rosters too low? or something else.
Why can’t we just play in regular tournaments with full rosters and players on field?

Smaller fields, so they can be played at smaller venues... you can get 3 7v7 fields across one standard field. Its a location thing. Secondarily, the idea is for faster play and more touches considering there are less girls in smaller spaces.

So, really it’s a method to get more teams playing and can make more $s? 7v7s seem like a waste for girls over 5th grade? It’s just quick to goal , seems to be no real game play? Field too small fur older girls…?

Yes 7v7 is a bastardized version of the sport....
7v7 is good to teach quicker decision making, outside of that it's fairly awful. Most teams will split their rosters for 7v7. Some fall tourneys are full field normal games.
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7v7 is good to teach quicker decision making, outside of that it's fairly awful. Most teams will split their rosters for 7v7. Some fall tourneys are full field normal games.

I see the benefit for the younger girls. I think the Older more experienced girls should be full field, real game situations.
7v7 is for tournament directors to make $$ in the fall and for teams not to worry about missing players due to soccer and other fall sports.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

YJ is ranked #6 nationally, "they don't win"? Really?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

YJ is ranked #6 nationally, "they don't win"? Really?[/quote

They beat they #1, #2, and #3 teams in July. They win, people spread fake news
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone please explain the purpose of the 7v7 tournaments? Does it provide for a more high speed game? Numbers on rosters too low? or something else.
Why can’t we just play in regular tournaments with full rosters and players on field?

Smaller fields, so they can be played at smaller venues... you can get 3 7v7 fields across one standard field. Its a location thing. Secondarily, the idea is for faster play and more touches considering there are less girls in smaller spaces.

So, really it’s a method to get more teams playing and can make more $s? 7v7s seem like a waste for girls over 5th grade? It’s just quick to goal , seems to be no real game play? Field too small fur older girls…?

My youngest on a 4th grade team last year that had 19 girls in the team. We did the 7v7 in port washington. They did not split the roster and playing time was less than ideal. ugh!!!! Not a fan
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

YJ is ranked #6 nationally, "they don't win"? Really?[/quote

They beat they #1, #2, and #3 teams in July. They win, people spread fake news

national rankings. lol. And also lost to those teams all year plus several others.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

YJ is ranked #6 nationally, "they don't win"? Really?[/quote

They beat they #1, #2, and #3 teams in July. They win, people spread fake news

national rankings. lol. And also lost to those teams all year plus several others.

I think the original intention of that post was to provide for teams on LI and guide another poster to teams in Nassau (think they mentioned take with grain of salt). Otherwise, thanks to poster for posting rankings teams. Am now aware of other options in Nassau. Thank you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

YJ is ranked #6 nationally, "they don't win"? Really?[/quote

They beat they #1, #2, and #3 teams in July. They win, people spread fake news

national rankings. lol. And also lost to those teams all year plus several others.

Evidently you don't follow the 2027age group closely.

I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.
[

Evidently you don't follow the 2027age group closely.

I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.[/quote]

Who cares! All these girls are playing high level lacrosse and not playing video games or making out with dudes behind the local Stop and Shop! Many of you living vicariously through your 12 year old daughters are going to be miserable when you have driven your daughters away from an amazing sport. Sit back, eat a sandwich, just watch your kids play and shut your meat hole!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.
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way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

For the 9 that left, curious where they went? FLG?
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[

Evidently you don't follow the 2027age group closely.

I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.

Who cares! All these girls are playing high level lacrosse and not playing video games or making out with dudes behind the local Stop and Shop! Many of you living vicariously through your 12 year old daughters are going to be miserable when you have driven your daughters away from an amazing sport. Sit back, eat a sandwich, just watch your kids play and shut your meat hole![/quote]

Who cares about rankings? I'd imagine the type of people that go to a lacrosse forum on 12 yr old lacrosse players and read it.

I'm just responding to the post about how YJ 27 "don't win". If this isn't you, kindly move on from the topic, thanks.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[

Evidently you don't follow the 2027age group closely.

I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.

Who cares! All these girls are playing high level lacrosse and not playing video games or making out with dudes behind the local Stop and Shop! Many of you living vicariously through your 12 year old daughters are going to be miserable when you have driven your daughters away from an amazing sport. Sit back, eat a sandwich, just watch your kids play and shut your meat hole!

Who cares about rankings? I'd imagine the type of people that go to a lacrosse forum on 12 yr old lacrosse players and read it.

I'm just responding to the post about how YJ 27 "don't win". If this isn't you, kindly move on from the topic, thanks.[/quote]


It certainly isn't me !! I read this forum for the pure entertainment that it provides. Grown men talking about how good/bad their 12 year old daughters lacrosse team or competition is! It's comedy at its finest!
I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.[/quote]

Thanks for absolutely confirming you are a YJ parent....either that or it is insanely scary you know stats for a 12 year old lacrosse team and how it faired given you aren't even associated with them or live on LI.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.
I don't think anyone moved up on this team. They also gained a few girls from the A team. I think this team will be very competitive
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.

Thanks for absolutely confirming you are a YJ parent....either that or it is insanely scary you know stats for a 12 year old lacrosse team and how it faired given you aren't even associated with them or live on LI.[/quote]

It took all of one click if you go to

https://USCL.com/rank?y=2020&alpha=N&v=2027

Its all right there.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.

That may be a little unfair. They had 6-8 girls who could start for most NY/NY A teams. That said, they had 5-6 girls on the team who should have been playing rec. If they upgrade talent here, the team could be top 25 nationally
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.

That may be a little unfair. They had 6-8 girls who could start for most NY/NY A teams. That said, they had 5-6 girls on the team who should have been playing rec. If they upgrade talent here, the team could be top 25 nationally


This past year wasn’t indicative of how the teams will be this coming year. Some teams didn’t have tryouts last summer so they were based on when the girls tried out in 5th grade. There was a ton of movement across all the teams so it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. My guess is YJ A, YJ B, TG and FLG will be the strongest in this age group on LI.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.

That may be a little unfair. They had 6-8 girls who could start for most NY/NY A teams. That said, they had 5-6 girls on the team who should have been playing rec. If they upgrade talent here, the team could be top 25 nationally


This past year wasn’t indicative of how the teams will be this coming year. Some teams didn’t have tryouts last summer so they were based on when the girls tried out in 5th grade. There was a ton of movement across all the teams so it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. My guess is YJ A, YJ B, TG and FLG will be the strongest in this age group on LI.

Probably right. FLG losing their goalie to YJ A will be a big impact.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.

That may be a little unfair. They had 6-8 girls who could start for most NY/NY A teams. That said, they had 5-6 girls on the team who should have been playing rec. If they upgrade talent here, the team could be top 25 nationally


This past year wasn’t indicative of how the teams will be this coming year. Some teams didn’t have tryouts last summer so they were based on when the girls tried out in 5th grade. There was a ton of movement across all the teams so it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. My guess is YJ A, YJ B, TG and FLG will be the strongest in this age group on LI.

Probably right. FLG losing their goalie to YJ A will be a big impact.

For sure. YJA needed a goalie upgrade
Probably right. FLG losing their goalie to YJ A will be a big impact.[/quote]


Nope!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Probably right. FLG losing their goalie to YJ A will be a big impact.


Nope![/quote]

I don't think we need to callout 12 yr olds do we? You can talk up the FLG goalie all you want, but as adults with players on these teams, can we be better than this?

BTW, she's a solid player.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Probably right. FLG losing their goalie to YJ A will be a big impact.


Nope!

I don't think we need to callout 12 yr olds do we? You can talk up the FLG goalie all you want, but as adults with players on these teams, can we be better than this?

BTW, she's a solid player.[/quote]

Don't think anyone was trying to knock the goalie. If they have a second goalie how much of an impact would losing one make is what they were trying to say?
YJA needing a goalie upgrade. Now that's calling out a particular player!! Ridiculous!
She’s probably a great kid unlike all of you grown men talking about 7th grade lacrosse, get a life…
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

This is an honest, solid assessment of YJ. It’s a very specific model that doesn’t work for everyone. There is limited training (compare the clinics YJ offers vs any other club). You join for the brand and exposure but not development. And they will really only push the A team later on. The other teams are there to pad the accounts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

This is an honest, solid assessment of YJ. It’s a very specific model that doesn’t work for everyone. There is limited training (compare the clinics YJ offers vs any other club). You join for the brand and exposure but not development. And they will really only push the A team later on. The other teams are there to pad the accounts.

agreed with all of this. Most of the girls making the trip from Nassau to YJ have generally joined the team once they were above average lax players. Most mentioned skill development was lacking but 100% top exposure
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

This is an honest, solid assessment of YJ. It’s a very specific model that doesn’t work for everyone. There is limited training (compare the clinics YJ offers vs any other club). You join for the brand and exposure but not development. And they will really only push the A team later on. The other teams are there to pad the accounts.

agreed with all of this. Most of the girls making the trip from Nassau to YJ have generally joined the team once they were above average lax players. Most mentioned skill development was lacking but 100% top exposure

Which prob. Means some of the top players at YJ started somewhere else or went out and got their own training? So, if my daughter very young - I should start her with a club that has more development and training? See how that goes and possibly move later for the exposure?
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Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

This is an honest, solid assessment of YJ. It’s a very specific model that doesn’t work for everyone. There is limited training (compare the clinics YJ offers vs any other club). You join for the brand and exposure but not development. And they will really only push the A team later on. The other teams are there to pad the accounts.

agreed with all of this. Most of the girls making the trip from Nassau to YJ have generally joined the team once they were above average lax players. Most mentioned skill development was lacking but 100% top exposure

Which prob. Means some of the top players at YJ started somewhere else or went out and got their own training? So, if my daughter very young - I should start her with a club that has more development and training? See how that goes and possibly move later for the exposure?


Previous poster here. I wouldn't consider YJ for a good lacrosse playing girl under 8th or maybe 7th grade. Lots of teams out there will better instruction. (One key caveat is that YJ is much more accepting of multi sport athletes than other clubs -- they will never bench someone for missing a practice). You just don't want your daughter to be the best player on her team.

Challenge is that some of the better long island teams don't play outside NY until 7th or 8th grade. Top Guns play NGLL against top Westchester and Jersey teams which is some of the best competition. The shame is that the top 3 Westchester club programs do so much better than the LI ones on player development.

Empire and Liberty probably send the most middle school girls to YJ over time.
Empire does a great job developing girls, I have been with the club for the last 2 years and am very happy with them, the head coach is a varsity coach and also the director and my daughter loves playing for him!
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As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

Stop with the BS, this is a LI forum, Prime Time is an excellent program, but theyre in westchester. YJ teams are legit. The top team is very good, and their 2nd team would beat most A teams.

Jesters mentioned in this conversation is ridiculous, their 2027 team is average at best and can’t compete currently on LI let alone nationally.
At this age you should be watching to see if your kid is getting better. Travel lax isn’t cheap. Be on a team that is working on her skills. She doesn’t need exposure yet she is 12. If she develops the talent needed to play at the next level she will find a school to play at. If you need to pay for a ton of extra lessons on top of travel costs you should reevaluate the team she is on and what your end game will be. Not every kid is a rockstar.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

Stop with the BS, this is a LI forum, Prime Time is an excellent program, but theyre in westchester. YJ teams are legit. The top team is very good, and their 2nd team would beat most A teams.

Jesters mentioned in this conversation is ridiculous, their 2027 team is average at best and can’t compete currently on LI let alone nationally.

Rude. The earlier poster's comments are fair. He/she did not ever said YJ is not legit.
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At this age you should be watching to see if your kid is getting better. Travel lax isn’t cheap. Be on a team that is working on her skills. She doesn’t need exposure yet she is 12. If she develops the talent needed to play at the next level she will find a school to play at. If you need to pay for a ton of extra lessons on top of travel costs you should reevaluate the team she is on and what your end game will be. Not every kid is a rockstar.


Well said! Too many people get caught up in a name as opposed To what is actually going on with their daughter
YJA and FLG wouldn't be top two teams on Long Island without having the top goalies on Long Island. Both teams will be just fine.
Plenty of grown women in here too.
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YJA and FLG wouldn't be top two teams on Long Island without having the top goalies on Long Island. Both teams will be just fine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA and FLG wouldn't be top two teams on Long Island without having the top goalies on Long Island. Both teams will be just fine.

Seeing FLG just lost one of their goalies to YJ A not so sure they will be fine. The slow bleed continues….
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

Stop with the BS, this is a LI forum, Prime Time is an excellent program, but theyre in westchester. YJ teams are legit. The top team is very good, and their 2nd team would beat most A teams.

Jesters mentioned in this conversation is ridiculous, their 2027 team is average at best and can’t compete currently on LI let alone nationally.

This is a long island forum? I guess Northeast Lacrosse equals long island, then.

Also, the discussion was about player development, not the top teams. If Jesters and Empire are such bad programs why did YJ add 4 players to their 27 A team from them
Jesters, Empire and Legacy are awful. At this age group.
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.
Yesterday was a 7v7. Very possible they were not all that Grade.
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Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.
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Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.
4 yj teams, 3 flg, 2 S2s, 3 jesters teams. Where did all these teams come from?
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4 yj teams, 3 flg, 2 S2s, 3 jesters teams. Where did all these teams come from?


FLG only has 2 teams. Remember for 7v7 some clubs split their teams
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.

ok YJ Dad! thanks for letting us all know they are "second to none" multiple times....outside YJA I'm not really sure what the heck you are talking about
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4 yj teams, 3 flg, 2 S2s, 3 jesters teams. Where did all these teams come from?


FLG only has 2 teams. Remember for 7v7 some clubs split their teams

FLG has 3 teams entered in Queen of the Island on the 30th
Blue Devils, Navy and White. Not a 7v7 tourney
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.

ok YJ Dad! thanks for letting us all know they are "second to none" multiple times....outside YJA I'm not really sure what the heck you are talking about

Aces Elite is the best shooting team I've seen at 2027 level. #2 on Aces is a special talent.
YJ A right up there of course, though I think they tend to press.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
4 yj teams, 3 flg, 2 S2s, 3 jesters teams. Where did all these teams come from?


FLG only has 2 teams. Remember for 7v7 some clubs split their teams

FLG has 3 teams entered in Queen of the Island on the 30th
Blue Devils, Navy and White. Not a 7v7 tourney

They've done this before and referred to the "3rd" team as Carolina (in addition to Navy and White) but FLG only has two teams - they split them up to get additional play time in that tourney
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
4 yj teams, 3 flg, 2 S2s, 3 jesters teams. Where did all these teams come from?


FLG only has 2 teams. Remember for 7v7 some clubs split their teams

FLG has 3 teams entered in Queen of the Island on the 30th
Blue Devils, Navy and White. Not a 7v7 tourney

They've done this before and referred to the "3rd" team as Carolina (in addition to Navy and White) but FLG only has two teams - they split them up to get additional play time in that tourney


Interesting. How big are the rosters that they can afford to do this?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.

ok YJ Dad! thanks for letting us all know they are "second to none" multiple times....outside YJA I'm not really sure what the heck you are talking about



Hmmmm, reading comprehension problem? Obviously not a YJ dad. Maybe have a fourth grader read it for you. Geeez
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.

ok YJ Dad! thanks for letting us all know they are "second to none" multiple times....outside YJA I'm not really sure what the heck you are talking about



Hmmmm, reading comprehension problem? Obviously not a YJ dad. Maybe have a fourth grader read it for you. Geeez

clearly was referring to the two "second to none" follow up posts...not sure who has the reading comprehension problem but thanks for your two cents....
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.

ok YJ Dad! thanks for letting us all know they are "second to none" multiple times....outside YJA I'm not really sure what the heck you are talking about



Hmmmm, reading comprehension problem? Obviously not a YJ dad. Maybe have a fourth grader read it for you. Geeez

clearly was referring to the two "second to none" follow up posts...not sure who has the reading comprehension problem but thanks for your two cents....


So let me get this straight. Some folks have their panties in a bunch over a post saying YJ have the best shooters at this age level in long island.

Some folks just looking for a fight.
FLG has a 3rd team. They bought another club. Blur Devils I think.
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FLG has a 3rd team. They bought another club. Blur Devils I think.

Wasn't that 91?
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FLG has a 3rd team. They bought another club. Blur Devils I think.

Wasn't that 91?

FLG merged with Blue Devil. 91 merged with Bandit
91 bought the Brookhaven bandits
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.
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Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Liberty black is terrible
Flg has small roster 16-18 players
North Shore Elite is a pickup team consisting of a large group of yj kids, I believe.
Sounds like someone got cut/demoted from Liberty.
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Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Pick up team basically - lots of YJ
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Liberty black is terrible

That may be true and they seem to make sure they ply in tournaments they can win. Rumor I they pulled out of Queen of the Island. Don’t want to get showed up by YJ and FLG.

But you didn’t answer my question. Do you know who North Shore Elite is? have never heard of them. Was curious if anyone knew anything about them.
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Sounds like someone got cut/demoted from Liberty.


Can’t imagine they cut anyone. They are too busy plugging up the holes left by all the players leaving. Next year will be even worse.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Liberty black is terrible

That may be true and they seem to make sure they ply in tournaments they can win. Rumor I they pulled out of Queen of the Island. Don’t want to get showed up by YJ and FLG.

But you didn’t answer my question. Do you know who North Shore Elite is? have never heard of them. Was curious if anyone knew anything about them.

Answered a bunch of times already….
Showed up by flg? Fall Fray they beat them 11-2
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Liberty black is terrible

That may be true and they seem to make sure they ply in tournaments they can win. Rumor I they pulled out of Queen of the Island. Don’t want to get showed up by YJ and FLG.

But you didn’t answer my question. Do you know who North Shore Elite is? have never heard of them. Was curious if anyone knew anything about them.

Answered a bunch of times already….

Easy there. They all posted at the same time mine did.
Liberty not listed for Queen. Shocker.
Fall fray FLG team was the B squad....
Was that CT Grizzlies' B team at Fall Fray? Hard to believe their A team would lose to legacy?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Pick up team basically - lots of YJ

A bit more complicated -- its an all-star team across 4 or 5 rec leagues/teams. That said, i believe 12 or 13 players were YJ, mostly on the A team.
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Showed up by flg? Fall Fray they beat them 11-2

Easy Liberty dad. Face facts. The team isn’t what it was. Going to be a long year with lots of excuses and pumping yourselves up when you beat B teams. Queens of the B team bracket. Nothing wrong with that.
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Liberty not listed for Queen. Shocker.

Liberty dropped out and YJ Gaghan dropped to the B bracket. S2S has no shot to be competitive in that A bracket but at least they are willing to put themselves out there. Surprised YJ is willing to play their teams against one another.
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Showed up by flg? Fall Fray they beat them 11-2

Ummmmm pretty sure they meant FLG Navy….not White
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Was that CT Grizzlies' B team at Fall Fray? Hard to believe their A team would lose to legacy?

Legacy is a brand new team with an amazing new coach, playing in their first 12v12 tournament. There is a lot of room for improvement but they got better with every game. They practice 2-3 times per week, have actual winter training and box lacrosse. With a few additions, by next year, they'll be one of the top teams.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was that CT Grizzlies' B team at Fall Fray? Hard to believe their A team would lose to legacy?

Legacy is a brand new team with an amazing new coach, playing in their first 12v12 tournament. There is a lot of room for improvement but they got better with every game. They practice 2-3 times per week, have actual winter training and box lacrosse. With a few additions, by next year, they'll be one of the top teams.

Not sure they will be a top team by fall, but they will be much improved. Liberty's record on player development on the island is as good as any. Biggest problem for the club, though, is preventing its top players from going to YJ or TG
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was that CT Grizzlies' B team at Fall Fray? Hard to believe their A team would lose to legacy?

Legacy is a brand new team with an amazing new coach, playing in their first 12v12 tournament. There is a lot of room for improvement but they got better with every game. They practice 2-3 times per week, have actual winter training and box lacrosse. With a few additions, by next year, they'll be one of the top teams.

Not sure they will be a top team by fall, but they will be much improved. Liberty's record on player development on the island is as good as any. Biggest problem for the club, though, is preventing its top players from going to YJ or TG

same problem for every club as they get older
How much training does your daughter do outside of club practices and her own workouts? Privates? Groups? Clinics? Pick up leagues? Many of the clinics out there seem like money grabs and half the time is spent waiting around. Trying to figure out the ideal mix at this age.
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How much training does your daughter do outside of club practices and her own workouts? Privates? Groups? Clinics? Pick up leagues? Many of the clinics out there seem like money grabs and half the time is spent waiting around. Trying to figure out the ideal mix at this age.

my take from a father who has had two daughters go on to next level (1 top 25 D1, another top NESCAC) and a highly rated 24.

Lots will depend on your club team and how much they practice Obv some teams practice much more than others. Beyond that, most important is to get wall ball nearly every day engrained (at least 4 days per week; 30-40 minutes per session).

Beyond that I would focus on stick work and agility training, depending on your daughters needs. (skip agility if she plays multiple sports). Ideally stick work should be position-based but this gets more important later. If she take the draw, some dedicated draw work is important too. Biggest goal at this level should be 1) ability to shoot and pass on multiple levels (high,middle,low) 2) no difference between right and left hands and 3) footwork on (a variety of) dodges

Personally think most clinics and pickup leagues are wastes of time developmentally, but your daughter enjoys them don't stop her.

From what i've seen, its the agility part, where i've seen lots of LI girls get behind. Though there are plenty of exceptions, i think defensive footwork at the top LI clubs is a well behind that at the top MD clubs.

Hope this helps.
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How much training does your daughter do outside of club practices and her own workouts? Privates? Groups? Clinics? Pick up leagues? Many of the clinics out there seem like money grabs and half the time is spent waiting around. Trying to figure out the ideal mix at this age.

my take from a father who has had two daughters go on to next level (1 top 25 D1, another top NESCAC) and a highly rated 24.

Lots will depend on your club team and how much they practice Obv some teams practice much more than others. Beyond that, most important is to get wall ball nearly every day engrained (at least 4 days per week; 30-40 minutes per session).

Beyond that I would focus on stick work and agility training, depending on your daughters needs. (skip agility if she plays multiple sports). Ideally stick work should be position-based but this gets more important later. If she take the draw, some dedicated draw work is important too. Biggest goal at this level should be 1) ability to shoot and pass on multiple levels (high,middle,low) 2) no difference between right and left hands and 3) footwork on (a variety of) dodges

Personally think most clinics and pickup leagues are wastes of time developmentally, but your daughter enjoys them don't stop her.

From what i've seen, its the agility part, where i've seen lots of LI girls get behind. Though there are plenty of exceptions, i think defensive footwork at the top LI clubs is a well behind that at the top MD clubs.

Hope this helps.

Super helpful info, thank you. Advice makes so much sense. Wall ball does make all the difference. Trick is making it a habit nearly every day.
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How much training does your daughter do outside of club practices and her own workouts? Privates? Groups? Clinics? Pick up leagues? Many of the clinics out there seem like money grabs and half the time is spent waiting around. Trying to figure out the ideal mix at this age.

my take from a father who has had two daughters go on to next level (1 top 25 D1, another top NESCAC) and a highly rated 24.

Lots will depend on your club team and how much they practice Obv some teams practice much more than others. Beyond that, most important is to get wall ball nearly every day engrained (at least 4 days per week; 30-40 minutes per session).

Beyond that I would focus on stick work and agility training, depending on your daughters needs. (skip agility if she plays multiple sports). Ideally stick work should be position-based but this gets more important later. If she take the draw, some dedicated draw work is important too. Biggest goal at this level should be 1) ability to shoot and pass on multiple levels (high,middle,low) 2) no difference between right and left hands and 3) footwork on (a variety of) dodges

Personally think most clinics and pickup leagues are wastes of time developmentally, but your daughter enjoys them don't stop her.

From what i've seen, its the agility part, where i've seen lots of LI girls get behind. Though there are plenty of exceptions, i think defensive footwork at the top LI clubs is a well behind that at the top MD clubs.

Hope this helps.

Super helpful info, thank you. Advice makes so much sense. Wall ball does make all the difference. Trick is making it a habit nearly every day.


Glad you found it helpful. One more point about wall ball. have your daughter focus on quality not quanity.

Too much wall ball is about getting max reps in a minute, 5 minutes, etc. The result is lots of flat footed reps with no football.

Focus on getting good footwork on every rep. 100 high quality reps are better than 1000 flat footed ones.
Is Empire Green or White the top team?
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Is Empire Green or White the top team?

Green
And we know who it is
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And we know who it is

?
No surprise here…YJ A and B go undefeated at Queen. And B shutout flg navy? I guess this is what happens when your best players leave.
FLG Navy v. YJ B cancelled. Dope.
YJ A 6 - FLG Navy 5. I guess that’s what happens when your best players have no loyalty.
lost
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YJ A 6 - FLG Navy 5. I guess that’s what happens when your best players have no loyalty.
Is it the players or parents that have no loyalty?
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YJ A 6 - FLG Navy 5. I guess that’s what happens when your best players have no loyalty.
Is it the players or parents that have no loyalty?

Watched this game. very good lacrosse. Both should be top 10 nationally.

YJ clearly more talented, but didn't really have any ideas on offense other than some set plays, 2-man games, iso. FLG playing more team lacrosse and looked better in settled play. YJ bigger and physical in midfield and that was the difference
Is it the parents or kids that are CRAZY......
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
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YJ A 6 - FLG Navy 5. I guess that’s what happens when your best players have no loyalty.
Is it the players or parents that have no loyalty?

Watched this game. very good lacrosse. Both should be top 10 nationally.

YJ clearly more talented, but didn't really have any ideas on offense other than some set plays, 2-man games, iso. FLG playing more team lacrosse and looked better in settled play. YJ bigger and physical in midfield and that was the difference

YJ could be so much better. Coaching continues to be terrible and toxic sideline. I’m hopefully they finally make a permanent coaching change for next season.
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FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.

This is spot on. The fact these parents are ‘loyal’ is only going to hurt those kids when they get to recruiting years and are playing in garbage tournaments all the time.
Agreed. What stunad seriously thinks a girls tourney49
Minute game ends 0-0. Try the game didn’t happen. Omg…. Would not be that result!!!
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FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.

Why do you say that? They can stay together as a team and do very well. It doesn’t matter what the other teams at FLG are doing. As long as they get put in the right tournaments and brackets. (Need to demand management does that for them) They can win and get recognized for it. If they go to the other big name teams on LI, may never see the field when it counts. Way the risk and rewards. May be better to stay together and kill it??
Best players still on FLG Navy with some amazing new additions. Not missing a beat. Coming together for great TEAM play and not just a top line playing game. Depth …. Great group of young athletes too committed to a team they love and don’t fear the slide to the B or the C slide YJ is famous for.
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FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.
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FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
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FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.

This is spot on. The fact these parents are ‘loyal’ is only going to hurt those kids when they get to recruiting years and are playing in garbage tournaments all the time.

They Need to speak up to ownership and demand more for their team!! Better tournaments and commitment!! If don’t get it, start looking to move …
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FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
They played Pride and Aces Elite.
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FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??

Flg navy in last month played Aces, Pride, Yj
All highly competitive games. Why leave a team who can play with anyone in the country just because some of the club’s other teams aren’t great. Makes no sense.
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FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
Pride and Aces Elite. Pride being the better of the 2.
Do we not realize that there are over 550 college lacrosse NCAA women’s programs? Are we seriously to think that only 24 YJA girls are going to play college lacrosse!!!! Ludicrous thinking. Your athlete needs to practice, play, lead their team and be HAPPY… they will be seen at showcases, games-both HS and Club, and need to not ride the sidelines for years just to have a team name. Loyalty to a program who cares about your daughter individually= college recruiting … get serious. There is not only one 24 girl roster team that feeds colleges! C”mon!!
Heard flg never subbed the bench in vs YJ A
FLG gear seems nicer and the moms are hotter
My daughter is on YJ. Let me tell you it’s a disfunctional mess. Parents only confide in their small circles but there are many small groups dissing coaches, players, second guessing. Parent coaches kids start and never come off. Everyone eye rolls especially if you’re a left attacker or a midfielder. The assistant now head coach is looking over his shoulder at the former head coach, now the assistant. The now head coach spent the last year calling parents to make his case. Now he has the top job. Nice guy but a daddy first and lacrosse coach second. We have too many girls on the team. Pressure will build to win at all costs which means 15 girls will barely see the field come next summer. It’s only October and the sideline has the pressure cooker feeling of a recruiting event in July. I (and several others) secretly hope for the team to lose so there is a clean sweep of the coaching staff. Good group of girls but drama drama drama.
Empire is the program of the future.
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My daughter is on YJ. Let me tell you it’s a disfunctional mess. Parents only confide in their small circles but there are many small groups dissing coaches, players, second guessing. Parent coaches kids start and never come off. Everyone eye rolls especially if you’re a left attacker or a midfielder. The assistant now head coach is looking over his shoulder at the former head coach, now the assistant. The now head coach spent the last year calling parents to make his case. Now he has the top job. Nice guy but a daddy first and lacrosse coach second. We have too many girls on the team. Pressure will build to win at all costs which means 15 girls will barely see the field come next summer. It’s only October and the sideline has the pressure cooker feeling of a recruiting event in July. I (and several others) secretly hope for the team to lose so there is a clean sweep of the coaching staff. Good group of girls but drama drama drama.

They need to do away with the parent coaching and 28 girl rosters !!! If that’s the type of club you are on… and not one of the top 12 players…. Get off of it, and find another team where your daughter will be happy and actually play! There are plenty of opportunities and clubs.
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My daughter is on YJ. Let me tell you it’s a disfunctional mess. Parents only confide in their small circles but there are many small groups dissing coaches, players, second guessing. Parent coaches kids start and never come off. Everyone eye rolls especially if you’re a left attacker or a midfielder. The assistant now head coach is looking over his shoulder at the former head coach, now the assistant. The now head coach spent the last year calling parents to make his case. Now he has the top job. Nice guy but a daddy first and lacrosse coach second. We have too many girls on the team. Pressure will build to win at all costs which means 15 girls will barely see the field come next summer. It’s only October and the sideline has the pressure cooker feeling of a recruiting event in July. I (and several others) secretly hope for the team to lose so there is a clean sweep of the coaching staff. Good group of girls but drama drama drama.

A word of advice - don't hold your breath waiting for that coaching change. YJ has nearly destroyed blue teams rather than change coaches. CR knows most kids will stay no matter what the coaching situation is. The ones that leave will be replaced with another paying body. It doesn't have to be someone better, just a girl whose parents will cut the check. The brand attracts talent and CRs connections keep the college commitments coming. The coach is irrelevant for her purposes.

The coaching will not change.

Your daughter can change teams. If you are going to do that, it is best to do it before high school. Basically, this coming summer or it gets much harder and you're likely to be stuck there until it's all over. Good luck to you and your daughter.
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Empire is the program of the future.

Just because you say it out loud doesn’t mean it will be true. It will be ok Empire dad.
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Empire is the program of the future.

says nobody except you Empire dad.
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My daughter is on YJ. Let me tell you it’s a disfunctional mess. Parents only confide in their small circles but there are many small groups dissing coaches, players, second guessing. Parent coaches kids start and never come off. Everyone eye rolls especially if you’re a left attacker or a midfielder. The assistant now head coach is looking over his shoulder at the former head coach, now the assistant. The now head coach spent the last year calling parents to make his case. Now he has the top job. Nice guy but a daddy first and lacrosse coach second. We have too many girls on the team. Pressure will build to win at all costs which means 15 girls will barely see the field come next summer. It’s only October and the sideline has the pressure cooker feeling of a recruiting event in July. I (and several others) secretly hope for the team to lose so there is a clean sweep of the coaching staff. Good group of girls but drama drama drama.

Will be interesting to see what happens at Lax for the Cure after YJ gets rolled in the first game by Eagle Stix. Get ready for some sideline drama.
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Heard flg never subbed the bench in vs YJ A

Which clown did you hear that from? FLG Navy plays all its players and significant minutes across the board regardless of the opponent.
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FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
Pride and Aces Elite. Pride being the better of the 2.

Did they play head to head? My daughter's team has played both and I'd say Aces is better by a good margin. Maybe something changed in Fall?

Over summer, the final rankings were Aces #3 and Pride #10.
Empire subs their players.
Which clown did you hear that from? FLG Navy plays all its players and significant minutes across the board regardless of the opponent.


Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep better at night
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
Pride and Aces Elite. Pride being the better of the 2.

Did they play head to head? My daughter's team has played both and I'd say Aces is better by a good margin. Maybe something changed in Fall?

Over summer, the final rankings were Aces #3 and Pride #10.

As someone who has a daughter who has battled both teams many times, I can tell you for sure Aces is better. Pride is a really good team. But on their best days, Aces can be as strong as M&D, Hero's and Eagle Stix. Pride is a notch below
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FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
Pride and Aces Elite. Pride being the better of the 2.

Did they play head to head? My daughter's team has played both and I'd say Aces is better by a good margin. Maybe something changed in Fall?

Over summer, the final rankings were Aces #3 and Pride #10.

As someone who has a daughter who has battled both teams many times, I can tell you for sure Aces is better. Pride is a really good team. But on their best days, Aces can be as strong as M&D, Hero's and Eagle Stix. Pride is a notch below

!00% accurate.
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Which clown did you hear that from? FLG Navy plays all its players and significant minutes across the board regardless of the opponent.


Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep better at night

You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.
You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.


I watched because it’s the two best clubs on LI and I even noticed FLG never subbed that game 3-5 kids stood on the sidelines but subbed against us, Flg only has one FO girl who’s really tall better hope she doesn’t miss a game she’s the offense.
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You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.


I watched because it’s the two best clubs on LI and I even noticed FLG never subbed that game 3-5 kids stood on the sidelines but subbed against us, Flg only has one FO girl who’s really tall better hope she doesn’t miss a game she’s the offense.

What is an FO girl?
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You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.


I watched because it’s the two best clubs on LI and I even noticed FLG never subbed that game 3-5 kids stood on the sidelines but subbed against us, Flg only has one FO girl who’s really tall better hope she doesn’t miss a game she’s the offense.
Except for the fact that 4 different girls scored the five goals for FLG.
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You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.


I watched because it’s the two best clubs on LI and I even noticed FLG never subbed that game 3-5 kids stood on the sidelines but subbed against us, Flg only has one FO girl who’s really tall better hope she doesn’t miss a game she’s the offense.

That’s a bit of a low blow but you’re shocked she’s not on yj, I get it.
FLG doesn’t sub in big games?
Nope
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You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.


I watched because it’s the two best clubs on LI and I even noticed FLG never subbed that game 3-5 kids stood on the sidelines but subbed against us, Flg only has one FO girl who’s really tall better hope she doesn’t miss a game she’s the offense.

What is an FO girl?


Face Off, which I think they meant DC in this case.
Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?
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Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.
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Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.

Do they promote from within or are b kids stuck on b like yj?
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Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.

Do they promote from within or are b kids stuck on b like yj?
They brought 3 girls from White to Navy I believe this year and a few last year.
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Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.

Do they promote from within or are b kids stuck on b like yj?
They brought 3 girls from White to Navy I believe this year and a few last year.


Ok so there are opportunities to move up. I wonder if A team made cuts to bring up girls from B.
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Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.

Do they promote from within or are b kids stuck on b like yj?
They brought 3 girls from White to Navy I believe this year and a few last year.


Ok so there are opportunities to move up. I wonder if A team made cuts to bring up girls from B.
Doesn’t mean you will play. You my go from being the rockstar on B to riding the bench on A. Choose wisely and don’t just chase the A team title.
FLG Navy has a total team roster of 16 girls and that includes the one goalie…. Even when the entire team is there which is not all the time, that means there are literally only FOUR girls on the sidelines The FLG squad sideline could not field a whole second team the way most programs do with 24-28 girl rosters. Please don’t tell me that most competitive club sports squads do not play their best girls when they are up against their biggest competition for a single game. Happens all the time for maybe one tournament game. Maybe even more Luckily FLG is fair in the numbers they keep on a team roster so all girls get lots of play time throughout the tournament season
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FLG Navy has a total team roster of 16 girls and that includes the one goalie…. Even when the entire team is there which is not all the time, that means there are literally only FOUR girls on the sidelines The FLG squad sideline could not field a whole second team the way most programs do with 24-28 girl rosters. Please don’t tell me that most competitive club sports squads do not play their best girls when they are up against their biggest competition for a single game. Happens all the time for maybe one tournament game. Maybe even more Luckily FLG is fair in the numbers they keep on a team roster so all girls get lots of play time throughout the tournament season

Please… don’t think the Winkoff’s would cram more girls onto that team if they could? $$$$
Empire doesn't cram kids on teams
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Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.

What happened to the 27 Elevate team? Looked like a 26/27 combo at QOTI.
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To be accurate for this age group, it’s YJ Grazadei, flg Navy then a pretty big drop off, liberty black, empire, YJ gaghan, TG black then a drop off, elevate, YJ Palermo, legacy, jesters, then a drop off for anyone else like blue devils, 91bandits and the b teams. And tradition is prob in the second grouping, but not sure if they count bc they’re just GC. Will be interesting to see if pieces shuffled around this summer and any changes among the top teams. MY guess is grazadei gets stronger

Still hard to tell but Grazadei and Flg looked real strong at Queen. Possible they both got better even after all the movement. Not sure about the others. Elevate off the grid.
Who did top guns pick up? How are they at this age level?
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Who did top guns pick up? How are they at this age level?

We will find out this weekend. More than half of their team is new. They are looking to be number 1.
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Who did top guns pick up? How are they at this age level?

We will find out this weekend. More than half of their team is new. They are looking to be number 1.

That seat’s taken
these YJ stazidei practices....smh. This team wins despite these coaches. Is it too much to ask to have coaches with lax experience beyond training their daughters
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

What tourney?
Who ever is talking badly about a yj team practice has serious mental issues. It’s practice. Empire parents don’t do that.
The 2021 Northeast Showcase
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Who ever is talking badly about a yj team practice has serious mental issues. It’s practice. Empire parents don’t do that.

Lol
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

What tourney?
Tough teams but they will get there. Great players. They just need some time playing together. Huge improvement from last year.
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.
What are the problems?
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that same zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)


YJ will get Heros and Aces at Live Love Lax. and Prime Time will get YJ B.
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)

Ugh, dreading the stazidei sidelines. I hope the coaches play to win during the eagle stix game at least. Last time they played everyone we almost lost to lame FLG.
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)


YJ will get Heros and Aces at Live Love Lax. and Prime Time will get YJ B.

PT is playing Eagle Stix and YJA on Saturday - not sure what you're looking at
Empire plays everyone. Plenty of spots open if you’re not happy with the coaching or playing time.
I heard they are cram free
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Empire plays everyone. Plenty of spots open if you’re not happy with the coaching or playing time.

There is a reason why spots are open…..
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Empire plays everyone. Plenty of spots open if you’re not happy with the coaching or playing time.

There is a reason why spots are open…..

Guess you're new here.....Empire parents get sarcasm...
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)

Ugh, dreading the stazidei sidelines. I hope the coaches play to win during the eagle stix game at least. Last time they played everyone we almost lost to lame FLG.
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)

Ugh, dreading the stazidei sidelines. I hope the coaches play to win during the eagle stix game at least. Last time they played everyone we almost lost to lame FLG.

My god. So much whining. If it is so bad, why do you willingly fork over money to play there? Talk with your feet instead of being a sheep.
"My god. So much whining. If it is so bad, why do you willingly fork over money to play there? Talk with your feet instead of being a sheep".

LOL....I'm stealing that one.
Lots of teams play equally in the fall, in order to validate talent level of each kid.

MY daughters team was down at half to two different top-5 teams a few weeks ago, ended up losing by 5-7 goals as we rotated all in the game equally.

spring/summer is the time to really pull out the stops.
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)

Ugh, dreading the stazidei sidelines. I hope the coaches play to win during the eagle stix game at least. Last time they played everyone we almost lost to lame FLG.
"We" almost lost to FLG?? So you were out there playing? Your would probably pass out with one run up the field. Give me a break, it's fall lax. Once spring comes the same 12-14 girls will play the whole game, and your precious daughter will get her playing time or will she? A lot of new girls maybe she will be one of them on the bench, also your boy is not the head coach anymore. Should start sucking up to the new head coach(I'm guessing you have)
YJ situation headed into first real tourney. Grazzy butt kissers rooting for failure, bench warmers rooting for failure, staddy has his wife and daughter rooting for him but that’s it. New girls feeling optimistic and excited but that will get crushed before thanksgiving. I’ll try and report live from jersey but don’t want to get busted. Must win game vs. eagle stix.
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YJ situation headed into first real tourney. Grazzy butt kissers rooting for failure, bench warmers rooting for failure, staddy has his wife and daughter rooting for him but that’s it. New girls feeling optimistic and excited but that will get crushed before thanksgiving. I’ll try and report live from jersey but don’t want to get busted. Must win game vs. eagle stix.

What tourney is YJ playing? My daughter is at Fall Draw today and they aren’t playing but Eagle Stix Is.
Lax for the cure at New Egypt HS.
All this drama. What I really need to know.....is how long till people move to a slightly competitive cram free club.
What happened to Elevate?
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Lots of teams play equally in the fall, in order to validate talent level of each kid.

MY daughters team was down at half to two different top-5 teams a few weeks ago, ended up losing by 5-7 goals as we rotated all in the game equally.

spring/summer is the time to really pull out the stops.


Equal play in fall is driven more by clubs afraid that families of kids who don't play in the fall won't make their second installment of fees for the spring and summer.
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I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)


YJ will get Heros and Aces at Live Love Lax. and Prime Time will get YJ B.


Prime Time parent here. Lost by 1 to YJ yesterday. Will fully admit YJ had 10 of the 12 best players on the field. Their skill sticks and athleticism were at a different level. That said, they had no real ideas on offense other than a few isolation plays. Don't know much about the program but it seems like at least one of the following was true. 1) the team never practices 2) there is no real coaching going on or 3) the players just reject the coaching and do as they please.

This surprised me because I also have a daughter at a higher age level and would never say this about older YJ teams.

Have to believe that if nothing improves they would be rolled by top Maryland teams against whom they don't have a big talent advantage.


I would freely admit if coaching were switched and they played to win they would probably win 14-1.
Ok as the YJ parent who posts here often I’ll tell you we practice quite often. Friday nights, weekends. Throw in a scrimmage against the 26 team. So our issue isn’t lack of practice. Personally I think the team is evolving. The daddy and mommy coaches trying to keep their daughters front and center. That creates issues as some of the talent needs to get moved to accommodate. Meanwhile with grazzy everything ran through our star and now staddy trying to change that but unfortunately his knowledge of the game comes from YouTube. The talent level is so good we can still win most games despite this but agree as they get older will be a problem. CR is aware of all this but at this point just in wait and see mode for this year.
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Prime Time parent here. Lost by 1 to YJ yesterday. Will fully admit YJ had 10 of the 12 best players on the field. Their skill sticks and athleticism were at a different level. That said, they had no real ideas on offense other than a few isolation plays. Don't know much about the program but it seems like at least one of the following was true. 1) the team never practices 2) there is no real coaching going on or 3) the players just reject the coaching and do as they please.

This surprised me because I also have a daughter at a higher age level and would never say this about older YJ teams.

Have to believe that if nothing improves they would be rolled by top Maryland teams against whom they don't have a big talent advantage.


I would freely admit if coaching were switched and they played to win they would probably win 14-1.[/quote]

Impressive result for Prime Time. Did you guys add more talent? Girls clicking? We played you multiple times last year. You def have 2-3 real good players who seem to be able to score at will.
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Prime Time parent here. Lost by 1 to YJ yesterday. Will fully admit YJ had 10 of the 12 best players on the field. Their skill sticks and athleticism were at a different level. That said, they had no real ideas on offense other than a few isolation plays. Don't know much about the program but it seems like at least one of the following was true. 1) the team never practices 2) there is no real coaching going on or 3) the players just reject the coaching and do as they please.

This surprised me because I also have a daughter at a higher age level and would never say this about older YJ teams.

Have to believe that if nothing improves they would be rolled by top Maryland teams against whom they don't have a big talent advantage.


I would freely admit if coaching were switched and they played to win they would probably win 14-1.

Impressive result for Prime Time. Did you guys add more talent? Girls clicking? We played you multiple times last year. You def have 2-3 real good players who seem to be able to score at will.[/quote]

We had some upgrades on the back end of the roster, but the core of the team is the same. We implemented our motion offense and defensive principles last year and the girls didn't really get it or ran away from it when it got tough. As a result, we had a few very good performances and but were mostly mediocre. Our biggest improvements has been on settled play defense and getting transition opportunities on the clear.
So we are definitely seeing the playing field change. Prime Time has stepped up. Top Guns will be a wait and see as the team hasn’t had a chance to help yet. Dare I say Liberty has fallen? Not a great showing this weekend. The spring will be a deciding factor for many teams. Those that don’t play will jump ship. Teams that aren’t used to losing will also lose top
talent. Where they wind up will be the question. Teams are starting to demand that kids show up to everything and are frowning on kids playing other sports that create conflicts. That will change the dynamic as well.
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Prime Time parent here. Lost by 1 to YJ yesterday. Will fully admit YJ had 10 of the 12 best players on the field. Their skill sticks and athleticism were at a different level. That said, they had no real ideas on offense other than a few isolation plays. Don't know much about the program but it seems like at least one of the following was true. 1) the team never practices 2) there is no real coaching going on or 3) the players just reject the coaching and do as they please.

This surprised me because I also have a daughter at a higher age level and would never say this about older YJ teams.

Have to believe that if nothing improves they would be rolled by top Maryland teams against whom they don't have a big talent advantage.


I would freely admit if coaching were switched and they played to win they would probably win 14-1.

Impressive result for Prime Time. Did you guys add more talent? Girls clicking? We played you multiple times last year. You def have 2-3 real good players who seem to be able to score at will.[/quote]


Core group of girls is the same, a few nice additions but the top scorers are the same.. Last summer we had a couple good games and lots of mediocre ones where we played well for 15 minutes and let it get away.

Biggest change is more time with the motion offense and more comfort with defensive principles, especially trapping in the ride. We put in a complicated offense which never consistently performed.
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Ok as the YJ parent who posts here often I’ll tell you we practice quite often. Friday nights, weekends. Throw in a scrimmage against the 26 team. So our issue isn’t lack of practice. Personally I think the team is evolving. The daddy and mommy coaches trying to keep their daughters front and center. That creates issues as some of the talent needs to get moved to accommodate. Meanwhile with grazzy everything ran through our star and now staddy trying to change that but unfortunately his knowledge of the game comes from YouTube. The talent level is so good we can still win most games despite this but agree as they get older will be a problem. CR is aware of all this but at this point just in wait and see mode for this year.

YJ has mature, athletic players. That won't mean a thing in two years when all the girls have gone through puberty.
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Can’t wait for this weekend. All the competitive teams from Long Island in Delaware. It’s going to be great!
So many games this weekend. So much playing time. Let’s go Empire!
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question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.
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question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.
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question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.

YJ B team will be surprising teams come the spring - they finally have a goalie to back up that tough d and by end of summer will definitely be considered in the “A” conversation.
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question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.

Lol. Hit a nerve bench warmer?
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question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.

Lol. Hit a nerve bench warmer?
Lol. Hit a nerve girl who didn’t make either team
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question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.

Cannot comment on the 27 team specifically but if you looked at past YJ college commitments, there were definitely several girls each year who committed to top programs while not the whole A team commit. So, I would say yes generally. If you are on the bench in the A team, college coaches can't evaluate you.
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question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.

Lol. Hit a nerve bench warmer?
Lol. Hit a nerve girl who didn’t make either team

Making the team and playing are 2 very different things. If your kid doesn’t play they aren’t getting better. I would take being the top player on a B team over not playing in the A any day.
I wish more parents thought like this........the girls would be so much better off
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question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.

Even if it wasn't by choice - this happens pretty much every year. I think most YJ B teams have some players who are more talented than some of the back ups on A. Playing time, preferred position, friends on the team, better rapport with B team coach are all factors. Politics, certain school districts may also be a factor too, but I don't think a major factor. The point of the A teams is to win - so the very best players are always on A no matter what. The back ups on A and the starters on B - there is a gray area, especially as they get older.
I’ve made a huge mistake …
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I’ve made a huge mistake …

Do tell.
I haven’t.
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I’ve made a huge mistake …

Do tell.


Long ride home from Delaware with an upset daughter? That was my day as well.
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I’ve made a huge mistake …

Do tell.


Long ride home from Delaware with an upset daughter? That was my day as well.

What team?
This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.
Terrible fall for YJ 27A. All wins and 3 ties. Everyone played

That’s a hot mess. I mean right…….
On lack of scoring

As an observer. You can’t really blame the coaches. When the players constantly hit the goalie, shoot into the goalies stick, hit the post or miss the net.
Maybe they should change up the shooters
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Terrible fall for YJ 27A. All wins and 3 ties. Everyone played

That’s a hot mess. I mean right…….

With the talent on that team?? Tying town teams? Nah.
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question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.

Played the Gaghan team this weekend in Delaware. Having lost to the A team by one in the past we thought we would easily handle the B team. Have to say, the girls had their hands full the whole game and wound up in a tie. Is this the same team from last year or did they get a bunch of new players?
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This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.


For me, its not about the lack of goals, its that the goals they do get all come from turnovers and transition opps or free positions. Very goals for open, settled play and almost all of those were from 1 on 1 play.

Even in games we won by 9+ goals, we still barely had any assists.
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question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.

Played the Gaghan team this weekend in Delaware. Having lost to the A team by one in the past we thought we would easily handle the B team. Have to say, the girls had their hands full the whole game and wound up in a tie. Is this the same team from last year or did they get a bunch of new players?


Similar team. A few girls dropped down from A team, but those aren't the best players. Also dropped about 6 or7 girls from bottom of roster, who were either in over their heads or focused on other sports. Gaghan doing a very good job executing the offense, arguably better than YJ A. Upgraded goalie position too. Still too many turnovers and transition D needs lots of work. For the summer, I think some backup middies will become defenders.
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This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.

Change coaches or reduce number of Northport girls on the A team?
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Terrible fall for YJ 27A. All wins and 3 ties. Everyone played

That’s a hot mess. I mean right…….

With the talent on that team?? Tying town teams? Nah.

Just to say that town team ranked higher than many reputable LI club teams. So, please don't trash two teams at once.
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This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.

Change coaches or reduce number of Northport girls on the A team?

The team has talent, I agree. What the team lacks is Lax IQ. "Fear the Bee" does not mean run around in circles.
You want Lax IQ, you need to be on the premiere club. Give you one Hint. Ends with and E.
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This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.


For me, its not about the lack of goals, its that the goals they do get all come from turnovers and transition opps or free positions. Very goals for open, settled play and almost all of those were from 1 on 1 play.

Even in games we won by 9+ goals, we still barely had any assists.

You nailed it
Fear the B ….team.
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This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.


For me, its not about the lack of goals, its that the goals they do get all come from turnovers and transition opps or free positions. Very goals for open, settled play and almost all of those were from 1 on 1 play.

Even in games we won by 9+ goals, we still barely had any assists.


This was perfectly illustrated in the Eagle Stix game. YJ arguably were more talented at every field position (ES goalie was probably better) and the game ended in a tie. The difference -- Eagle Stix runs a precision offense where everyone know their roles and they share the ball.

YJ pass around waiting for a defensive mistake or get tired and try to get a 1:1. The best offense was turning it over and then getting a turnover on the ride. (not a joke). At some point, once YJ is playing teams who are equally physical or know how to play the ball backwards and clear the ball, we will be in trouble.

The only real improvement I have seen is that our clears are much better this year and we are working the ball up the field as a team with much less one on one play.
Fear the upset parent
Looked at TSIC app, Heroes green scored 3 goals vs YJA and aces scored 4 goals vs YJA. Is the YJ defense that good? Do those teams have an offensive issue too or is it that at top level 2027 games goals are tough to score.
And I’ll guess that PT was made up in game 3 if the scores are correct. (3rd daughter through this)
It’s a hot toxic mess over here at YJ. But we’re through the fall. Now we plow through winter trainings and bitterness will fade, optimism will rise until the June tourney run. At that point it’s a tournament every weekend so it will go by fast. The best players on this team won’t change. Anybody new who cracks the starting lineup will be from out of state. The rest are role players getting little minutes and that group will turn over every year. Sad part for the talented players is they will get better despite the coaching on this team. Such a waste.
YJA vs. YJB set it up and share the results
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a hot toxic mess over here at YJ. But we’re through the fall. Now we plow through winter trainings and bitterness will fade, optimism will rise until the June tourney run. At that point it’s a tournament every weekend so it will go by fast. The best players on this team won’t change. Anybody new who cracks the starting lineup will be from out of state. The rest are role players getting little minutes and that group will turn over every year. Sad part for the talented players is they will get better despite the coaching on this team. Such a waste.
How are the new players
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a hot toxic mess over here at YJ. But we’re through the fall. Now we plow through winter trainings and bitterness will fade, optimism will rise until the June tourney run. At that point it’s a tournament every weekend so it will go by fast. The best players on this team won’t change. Anybody new who cracks the starting lineup will be from out of state. The rest are role players getting little minutes and that group will turn over every year. Sad part for the talented players is they will get better despite the coaching on this team. Such a waste.

sounds great!
Empire is no toxic hot mess, I assure you
Fear the Forum
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA vs. YJB set it up and share the results

Wouldn't prove much. YJB would play all its players and the back half of that roster is very challenged.

That said, if you watched the game you would see much better offensive execution from YJB.

Also, this would NEVER happen. Would quadruple parential anxiety and angst.


The real test would be to switch the coaches between the two sides for a tourney
Empire, anxiety and angst free. No parents on Xanax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire, anxiety and angst free. No parents on Xanax.

Empire is a hot mess in the older grades not a good idea for younger kids they'll have no one leadin the pack
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire, anxiety and angst free. No parents on Xanax.

Empire is a second tier club. Continually posting about it isn’t going to change that so please stop.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA vs. YJB set it up and share the results

Wouldn't prove much. YJB would play all its players and the back half of that roster is very challenged.

That said, if you watched the game you would see much better offensive execution from YJB.

Also, this would NEVER happen. Would quadruple parential anxiety and angst.


The real test would be to switch the coaches between the two sides for a tourney
Switching coaches for a tournament would be a big disadvantage to the YJB. Also YJA might get confused, have to learn to play offense.
Second tier? How dare you besmirch another club. Empire parents don’t besmirch. You ma’am…sound like you may be on Xanax.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire, anxiety and angst free. No parents on Xanax.

Empire is a second tier club. Continually posting about it isn’t going to change that so please stop.

Agree Empire is a second tier club. However, their coaching and player development is as good as any. Top clubs in long island are filled with quality players who started at Empire in grade school
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.

What are their big wins?

I saw them at LLL, solid team but I wouldn’t put them in top 10 (I realize US Club has them there but it’s very premature in fall.
Impressive jump in the rankings for that team.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.
They are legit with stable coaching and no drama. They will be considered the “A” if they keep this up.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are legit with stable coaching and no drama. They will be considered the “A” if they keep this up.
Easy now. It's nice for the girls to see. It's obvious that they are not in the right spot in the rankings. Wouldn't it be nice if the A and B teams rooted for each other. They are in the same organization. You parents are creating this rivalry thing already.
Ha
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.

What are their big wins?

I saw them at LLL, solid team but I wouldn’t put them in top 10 (I realize US Club has them there but it’s very premature in fall.

None really. Their best performance was a tie against Prime Time. That said, team is much improved. Will be interesting to see how they perform if they get to play top MD teams this summer. Heros playday in the spring should reveal a lot
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are legit with stable coaching and no drama. They will be considered the “A” if they keep this up.
Easy now. It's nice for the girls to see. It's obvious that they are not in the right spot in the rankings. Wouldn't it be nice if the A and B teams rooted for each other. They are in the same organization. You parents are creating this rivalry thing already.

YJA has to have the worst coaches in the age group. With the talent on that team they should never lose. Any person reading this could not do worse than the current coaches. A golf coach could win games with that team. Just imagine if they had a real coaching staff....Btw, all you need to do is look to some of the pickup teams loaded with YJ girls. They win by even bigger margins.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are legit with stable coaching and no drama. They will be considered the “A” if they keep this up.

It's the YJ parents' dream come true! I'm sorry to tell you this, but it is the same story for every grad year. You won't get there. It never happens. Even if it *could* happen, CR won't let it happen. Just let it go and enjoy the journey.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA has to have the worst coaches in the age group. With the talent on that team they should never lose. Any person reading this could not do worse than the current coaches. A golf coach could win games with that team. Just imagine if they had a real coaching staff....Btw, all you need to do is look to some of the pickup teams loaded with YJ girls. They win by even bigger margins.

So your logic is that these pickup YJ teams that play B and C level teams is a measure of better coaching??? No one can take anything you say seriously after that golden nugget of wisdom.
“Every Rose has its thorn……”. No thorns on Empire.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA has to have the worst coaches in the age group. With the talent on that team they should never lose. Any person reading this could not do worse than the current coaches. A golf coach could win games with that team. Just imagine if they had a real coaching staff....Btw, all you need to do is look to some of the pickup teams loaded with YJ girls. They win by even bigger margins.

So your logic is that these pickup YJ teams that play B and C level teams is a measure of better coaching??? No one can take anything you say seriously after that golden nugget of wisdom.

The original poster is correct. Anyone who has watched them play a game this year knows they have no plan on offense. Almost all of their goals came from transition off caused turnovers, 2-man games, hot swapping defenders for middies and a random free position here and there.
Just like every night has its dawn
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA has to have the worst coaches in the age group. With the talent on that team they should never lose. Any person reading this could not do worse than the current coaches. A golf coach could win games with that team. Just imagine if they had a real coaching staff....Btw, all you need to do is look to some of the pickup teams loaded with YJ girls. They win by even bigger margins.

So your logic is that these pickup YJ teams that play B and C level teams is a measure of better coaching??? No one can take anything you say seriously after that golden nugget of wisdom.

Hardly...The pickup teams have tied aces elite, beat tradition (which i point out YJA tied last week), Legacy, Jesters, BBL
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.

Can they beat Liberty Black?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.

Can they beat Liberty Black?

yup i think the only teams they wouldnt beat are yjA and flg blue, but again thats not saying much, the level after those is a huge drop off right now
By spring/summer they should be able to beat either of those teams or at least keep it close throughout.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.

Can they beat Liberty Black?

they would roll them by at least 8, probably closer to 10 or 12 if they played hard to the whistle.
Maybe they should play in a real bracket, Queen tournament they moved down, thanks for making us all laugh.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe they should play in a real bracket, Queen tournament they moved down, thanks for making us all laugh.

Seriously enough with this - let's revisit and talk at the end of next summer - they are YJB for a reason
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe they should play in a real bracket, Queen tournament they moved down, thanks for making us all laugh.


Don't think Primetime was laughing
The empire support is hilarious
I've watched this team last 2 years and they are essentially a different team from last year and are very solid, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. The spring will tell the tale. These girls haven't played together other than a few games and it will take time to develop a flow and when it does they will be able to hang with some of the better teams. I do hear the coaching is very good so time will tell, but the potential is there.
Parents should not be trying to build a negative rivalry between A and B as many of those girls are very good friends and it would be a shame to put any negative spin on the game they enjoy. I understand friendly competition but they are from the same organization and should root each other on both as friends and players.
Why YJ B will not ever amount to much:

1) Your best players will move to A
2) You will get A's bottom players, some who are disgruntled, the others not as good as the players who moved up.
3) Players/parents who think should be on A will leave.
4) Your roster will be filled in with new players to make the numbers work. The new players then have to acclimate, regardless of talent. By the time they do, the season will be over and you go back to step #1.

As I said, enjoy the ride. Be happy your kid is playing and hopefully getting better. How your team is ranked means nothing.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've watched this team last 2 years and they are essentially a different team from last year and are very solid, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. The spring will tell the tale. These girls haven't played together other than a few games and it will take time to develop a flow and when it does they will be able to hang with some of the better teams. I do hear the coaching is very good so time will tell, but the potential is there.
Parents should not be trying to build a negative rivalry between A and B as many of those girls are very good friends and it would be a shame to put any negative spin on the game they enjoy. I understand friendly competition but they are from the same organization and should root each other on both as friends and players.

Let's be honest same organization or not - most of these kids across multiple teams/clubs at this age group are friends, all know each other, play on various pick up teams together....it's only the lost dads on here who try to pound their chest about the rankings of 12 year old girls. You'll all find out in a few more years that none of that matters.
No one is trying to build a negative rivalry. Just making an observation that the YJB will be giving both YJA and FLG Navy a run for their money by the summer and going forward. As far as any negative spin is concerned, it’s a fact and it continues that the majority of YJA parents at all age groups are condescending to all others below and many of their daughters follow their lead.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe they should play in a real bracket, Queen tournament they moved down, thanks for making us all laugh.


Don't think Primetime was laughing


I saw both Prime Time and YJB. Prime Time is the better team, I know the game ended in a tie, Im just going off of what I seen.

Prime Time has two girls who can score, I'd guess they are 75% of their offense, which isn't unusual at this age based on what Ive seen.



YJB is a solid team though. Always hard to compete as a B, if a girl starts to stand out, good chance A team moves her up in offseason. Also take these fall scores with grain of salt, lots of teams missing players due to soccer, field hockey and also playing the roster evenly which won't happen come Summer tournaments.
The brackets weren't really a thing at Queen of the Island. YJ B was playing FLG navy but was canceled due to the rain. YJ B has also played good completion in both tournaments after that. They are right there with the top teams. They are still a step behind YJ A and FLG but they are definitely ahead of the rest of the LI teams.
No chest pounding Dad's on Empire
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The brackets weren't really a thing at Queen of the Island. YJ B was playing FLG navy but was canceled due to the rain. YJ B has also played good completion in both tournaments after that. They are right there with the top teams. They are still a step behind YJ A and FLG but they are definitely ahead of the rest of the LI teams.

it's the Fall relax YJB dad....time will tell
can't we all just get along
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The brackets weren't really a thing at Queen of the Island. YJ B was playing FLG navy but was canceled due to the rain. YJ B has also played good completion in both tournaments after that. They are right there with the top teams. They are still a step behind YJ A and FLG but they are definitely ahead of the rest of the LI teams.

it's the Fall relax YJB dad....time will tell

When you are good, other people will say it for you. If you have to tell people, it sounds like there may be some insecurity.
Heard top guns got smacked by a pick up team over the weekend
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard top guns got smacked by a pick up team over the weekend

By who? Its pickup so it in meaningless.
Empire never plays in useless pick up games....too much nonsense.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire never plays in useless pick up games....too much nonsense.

You are a hammerhead!
A cool deadly animal…thanks! I’m picking up what you’re putting down.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire never plays in useless pick up games....too much nonsense.

You are a hammerhead!
can't we all just get along
can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents...
What’s wrong with us…
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.

We will see who the “real fools” are when Jesters is giving the recruiting help that is needed to get into college! Seems like many other LI programs are not that helpful! I think Jester girls are very lucky to be part of such a program. Let’s see who gets the real help in recruiting when it matters.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.

We will see who the “real fools” are when Jesters is giving the recruiting help that is needed to get into college! Seems like many other LI programs are not that helpful! I think Jester girls are very lucky to be part of such a program. Let’s see who gets the real help in recruiting when it matters.

Let's see how many currently rosters Jesters are on Jesters when recruiting matters, four years from now. Same goes for YJ, and any other club.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.

We will see who the “real fools” are when Jesters is giving the recruiting help that is needed to get into college! Seems like many other LI programs are not that helpful! I think Jester girls are very lucky to be part of such a program. Let’s see who gets the real help in recruiting when it matters.
So do tell what they do differently
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.

We will see who the “real fools” are when Jesters is giving the recruiting help that is needed to get into college! Seems like many other LI programs are not that helpful! I think Jester girls are very lucky to be part of such a program. Let’s see who gets the real help in recruiting when it matters.
So do tell what they do differently

They Care about individual girls and their individual abilities and goals. Supports them in trying to reach those goals.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.

We will see who the “real fools” are when Jesters is giving the recruiting help that is needed to get into college! Seems like many other LI programs are not that helpful! I think Jester girls are very lucky to be part of such a program. Let’s see who gets the real help in recruiting when it matters.
So do tell what they do differently

They Care about individual girls and their individual abilities and goals. Supports them in trying to reach those goals.

As a parent of an older jesters player I can tell you that the recruiting help is unparalleled in comparison to other clubs our family friends are on.
As a parent of a former jesters player I can tell you that I am happy I am not a jesters parent any longer...
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent of a former jesters player I can tell you that I am happy I am not a jesters parent any longer...

Would you mind sharing why? Not a jesters parent but it’s always interesting to hear how people can have such different opinions on their clubs based on their own experience
absolutely - coaching was a carousel from tourney to tourney, watched certain directors make multiple 9 year old girls cry, practices were combined with either older and younger age groups at all times
Originally Posted by Anonymous
absolutely - coaching was a carousel from tourney to tourney, watched certain directors make multiple 9 year old girls cry, practices were combined with either older and younger age groups at all times

When was that? They have new directors/leadership in the last year. When was your kid there. They have dedicated coaching
Former Jesters parent here for a girl who is now a 24.

I think the Jesters leadership honestly cared which is more than i can say for some other LI clubs. Their supplement programming is as good as any club on the island and close to the level that you see in the top WestChester / CT and Upstate programs.

The challenge with the club is that it is incredibly decentralized at the team level. Every coach is empowered to do with own thing and there is no consistancy between teams even at the same age group. As a result, whenever coaches changed you were going back to ground zero. Top girls from B teams would get promoted and be lost in the offense.

Out only other challenge was roster size. They intentionally pick more girls than needed because they know they will lose some to other clubs, usually YJ. So one year we ended up with 25 on the roster, another year we had 17 or 18.

We left 2 years ago but honestly wish the club nothing but the best. I think if their leadership got more hands on in the operations of the teams, installed a similar offense and defense strategy across all teams, this team could consistently compete with YJ and TG.
Why is there always so much talk about Jesters on this site? Who even cares.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is there always so much talk about Jesters on this site? Who even cares.

There is talk about every club on this site
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.
They have lost to YJA by a combined 4 goals the last three times they played them. Don’t think that’s a team that most would consider overrated. And who cares. They play great lacrosse and seem to be having fun together.
They’re no Empire, that’s for sure.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.

Pride Red is out of Northern VA, they are pretty strong team, top-5 in MD area.

But I agree FLG is overrated.

YJ A is top-10 nationally, could say top-5.

Also take fall scores with grain of salt, my DD team beat a top-5 one weekend and lost the next terribly to teams outsude the top-40 due to missing 9 players for fall sports.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.
They have lost to YJA by a combined 4 goals the last three times they played them. Don’t think that’s a team that most would consider overrated. And who cares. They play great lacrosse and seem to be having fun together.
FLG is a great team and so is YJA so who cares about rankings, girls are having fun
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.
FLG will win the next time they play YJA
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is there always so much talk about Jesters on this site? Who even cares.

Because when posts are anonymous, it’s an easy way to spread false info about your club to make things sound better than they are, truth of the matter is all clubs are basically the same
Except Jesters
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is there always so much talk about Jesters on this site? Who even cares.

Because when posts are anonymous, it’s an easy way to spread false info about your club to make things sound better than they are, truth of the matter is all clubs are basically the same

There is good and bad spread on here about every club let’s be real
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.
FLG will win the next time they play YJA
No chance YJ A loses to any LI team.
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Miss of death. Why would you ever post that. Even if you think it you should never lost it. I wonder how it this is a bunch of 12 yr old girls post I g on here
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Miss of death. Why would you ever post that. Even if you think it you should never lost it. I wonder how it this is a bunch of 12 yr old girls post I g on here

Funny reading post of parents who have never been through this before. News flash, wins/losses don't matter. Very soon its about whether your daughter is getting the looks for UA, Nike All star, America select, etc. Only a few per team. The evaluators aren't looking at tourney machine. Focus on your daughter getting better so she is prepared for those evaluations.

PS, the girls don't care 5 minutes after the game is done. Its the dads/moms that care too much.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Miss of death. Why would you ever post that. Even if you think it you should never lost it. I wonder how it this is a bunch of 12 yr old girls post I g on here

Funny reading post of parents who have never been through this before. News flash, wins/losses don't matter. Very soon its about whether your daughter is getting the looks for UA, Nike All star, America select, etc. Only a few per team. The evaluators aren't looking at tourney machine. Focus on your daughter getting better so she is prepared for those evaluations.

PS, the girls don't care 5 minutes after the game is done. Its the dads/moms that care too much.


So true!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Miss of death. Why would you ever post that. Even if you think it you should never lost it. I wonder how it this is a bunch of 12 yr old girls post I g on here

Funny reading post of parents who have never been through this before. News flash, wins/losses don't matter. Very soon its about whether your daughter is getting the looks for UA, Nike All star, America select, etc. Only a few per team. The evaluators aren't looking at tourney machine. Focus on your daughter getting better so she is prepared for those evaluations.

PS, the girls don't care 5 minutes after the game is done. Its the dads/moms that care too much.

Well, win losses do matter in some way, you want your kid on the best teams and teams that lose also lose their talent and teams that win retain talent and bring talent in.

My kid is a goalie and I honestly want a good team around her but not a great team. I want her seeing action, not watching her team dominant draws and watch but also not getting shelled because the defense can't keep up.

You are right though, getting seen the key which means you want to play in A brackets and in "big games" against top teams, which will have eyes on them.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Miss of death. Why would you ever post that. Even if you think it you should never lost it. I wonder how it this is a bunch of 12 yr old girls post I g on here

Funny reading post of parents who have never been through this before. News flash, wins/losses don't matter. Very soon its about whether your daughter is getting the looks for UA, Nike All star, America select, etc. Only a few per team. The evaluators aren't looking at tourney machine. Focus on your daughter getting better so she is prepared for those evaluations.

PS, the girls don't care 5 minutes after the game is done. Its the dads/moms that care too much.

Well, win losses do matter in some way, you want your kid on the best teams and teams that lose also lose their talent and teams that win retain talent and bring talent in.

My kid is a goalie and I honestly want a good team around her but not a great team. I want her seeing action, not watching her team dominant draws and watch but also not getting shelled because the defense can't keep up.

You are right though, getting seen the key which means you want to play in A brackets and in "big games" against top teams, which will have eyes on them.

If your daughter doesn't care whether they win / lose.....then I would assume that the team she plays for isn't that competitive or your daughter isn't that competitive. And there is nothing wrong if that gene isn't in her. It doesn't always have to be. There is nothing wrong with playing for the love of the game.

But the best players absolutely care about winning. That is why they play on the best teams. Because if you are not worried about winning and you play on a top team, you won't last long.
Does anyone know what happened to elevate?
They have an older team. Not sure about 27
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know what happened to elevate?

All the teams are going down the drain. Had two sophomore teams and they dissolved into one very mediocre team. Pretty sure the younger teams aren’t far behind.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.
There can only be one club on LI that starts with an E and ends with an E.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.

Lack of focus and management by ownership. They used to be very reputable and over the last few years just haven’t done what they need to do to stay competitive. Sad, because it was a very good, well run club in the past. Maybe they should merge with another club? Liberty? That’s a Nassau club too.
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There can only be one club on LI that starts with an E and ends with an E.

I thought East Coast Elite dropped their girls program?
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They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.

Lack of focus and management by ownership. They used to be very reputable and over the last few years just haven’t done what they need to do to stay competitive. Sad, because it was a very good, well run club in the past. Maybe they should merge with another club? Liberty? That’s a Nassau club too.

Liberty at this age is in trouble. You may see that team fall apart after the spring. They are no longer a top team and the girls that are good will be leaving for stronger teams.
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They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.

Lack of focus and management by ownership. They used to be very reputable and over the last few years just haven’t done what they need to do to stay competitive. Sad, because it was a very good, well run club in the past. Maybe they should merge with another club? Liberty? That’s a Nassau club too.

Liberty at this age is in trouble. You may see that team fall apart after the spring. They are no longer a top team and the girls that are good will be leaving for stronger teams.

Yes lots of movement this past tryout period as girls move to the stronger clubs ahead of high school - agree one more round of that coming up
overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.
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overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.

curious what makes you say this
Overall numbers down?????? There’s more girls playing travel now than ever. Some clubs are just a money grab, so people move on. It happens in all travel sports.
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overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.

that's just wrong....the movement is normal around these grades - just the normal movement where some girls move to more competitive teams and some go the other way - but there are more travel teams than ever that's its actually diluting the talent pool
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They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.
Bad program, Bad coaching
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They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.
Bad program, Bad coaching

I'm curious to understand what happens to elevate too. I have a 29 and was looking for a good nassau club for training. Elevate seems to have some good older teams and some good commit but saw their 28 at Queen of the island, which look rather weak.
YJ for all real competitive teams. Most years you can’t go wrong.
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overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.
LI 2027 teams:
3 YJ
2 TG
2 Legacy
2 FLG
2 Empire
2 Liberty
2 Jesters(maybe 3?)
1 Tradition
1 91
1 Lax on
1 elevate??
Am I missing anyone?

Seems like a lot of teams on the island, so i think the claim numbers down is a bit off
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overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.
LI 2027 teams:
3 YJ
2 TG
2 Legacy
2 FLG
2 Empire
2 Liberty
2 Jesters(maybe 3?)
1 Tradition
1 91
1 Lax on
1 elevate??
Am I missing anyone?

Seems like a lot of teams on the island, so i think the claim numbers down is a bit off

S2S has 2 teams as well
Updated standings and FLG Navy clinging (but not for long) the 10th spot - probably will drop to high teens or low 20’s after this summer and YJB out as well.
So…..about 15 teams that are money grabs. Happy holidays.
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Updated standings and FLG Navy clinging (but not for long) the 10th spot - probably will drop to high teens or low 20’s after this summer and YJB out as well.

You really have a thing for Navy. Was your daughter cut?
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Updated standings and FLG Navy clinging (but not for long) the 10th spot - probably will drop to high teens or low 20’s after this summer and YJB out as well.

You really have a thing for Navy. Was your daughter cut?
Great question
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.
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Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers
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Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite
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Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

Anecdotal evidence only.

Coppermine for example: A&B teams for 2023, 2024, 2025, 2028, 2029, (A only for 26 & 27)
MD United A&B teams for 2022, 2023, 2025, 2028, 2029 (A only for 24, 26, 27)
M&D just created B team for 2027 level after not having one last year
A few others as well.

May also be, for MD anyways, 2027 seemed to be the last year that club teams for most part started after 3rd grade. Now you see club teams with 3rd grade teams across the board, some with 2nd grade teams, not just your M&D and Hero's, but B clubs.


When my 2027 was in 4th grade, there were 9 teams in NGLL. This year's 4th grade there are currently 18.
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overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.

curious what makes you say this


PAL numbers over the past 3 to 4 years. 27s have always been lower than comparably other years.
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Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Is playing soccer or Lacrosse going to help open doors for college? Maybe they should play field hockey ?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Girls are being forced to specialize at younger and younger ages -in my opinion t's terrible and is a result of $$ infiltrating everything that has to do with youth sports
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Is playing soccer or Lacrosse going to help open doors for college? Maybe they should play field hockey ?

Soccer? That’s an uphill battle, unless you are at elite level, you are competing against international kids.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Is playing soccer or Lacrosse going to help open doors for college? Maybe they should play field hockey ?

Soccer? That’s an uphill battle, unless you are at elite level, you are competing against international kids.



In some ways, soccer is driving more girls to speciallize in lax earlier. The two top LI girls clubs -- East Meadow and SUSA (Smithtown) both require specialization starting I believe at age 13. As a result many girls who play both are picking one of the other in early middle school.
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Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Is playing soccer or Lacrosse going to help open doors for college? Maybe they should play field hockey ?

FH opps from LI are few and far between, unfortunately. LI is far behind other regions wheee FH is very strong. It’s a great sport that could open doors, but not really from here
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Is playing soccer or Lacrosse going to help open doors for college? Maybe they should play field hockey ?

FH opps from LI are few and far between, unfortunately. LI is far behind other regions wheee FH is very strong. It’s a great sport that could open doors, but not really from here

The same could be said for soccer on Long Island. A ton of girls play it, but even SUSA and East Meadow are only good on Long Island.
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.
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Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator
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Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Sold to whom?
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Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty
No one.... I mean no one...is buying Empire. Grass is a lime yellow green
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.


Parents of younger teams have been tryout out for other clubs all month
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.


Parents of younger teams have been tryout out for other clubs all month

Were they informed? And younger as in how young?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.


Parents of younger teams have been tryout out for other clubs all month

Tryouts in December?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.


Parents of younger teams have been tryout out for other clubs all month

Tryouts in December?

If Liberty news true, would stink as one of the reputable clubs in nassau
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.

It’s real. Not announced yet but done. Btw this isn’t a bad thing. Everything stays in place so as a parent nothing changes. If anything it should improve the comms, logistics, gear package, etc.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.

It’s real. Not announced yet but done. Btw this isn’t a bad thing. Everything stays in place so as a parent nothing changes. If anything it should improve the comms, logistics, gear package, etc.

Who bought them? Not sure I agree your club getting sold is a “good” thing…
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.

It’s real. Not announced yet but done. Btw this isn’t a bad thing. Everything stays in place so as a parent nothing changes. If anything it should improve the comms, logistics, gear package, etc.

Who bought them? Not sure I agree your club getting sold is a “good” thing…

Doesn’t matter for the Liberty Black ‘27 team. There will be a mass exodus come spring. If the top players are smart they talking to YJ/FLG trying to get picked before spring (and yes for talented players they do this)
Another club gone? Empire keeps climbing the rankings!!!
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.

Does liberty even play a spring schedule?
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.
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It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!
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It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
What list and who made this list?
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What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
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What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
So this is a money grab again from LILJ
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
What list and who made this list?

The “list” is extremely political. Many deserving girls left off, and some real head scratchers. This organization is for profit (who isn’t in lax?). Overall I think they do a decent job, but they should try to be less bias’s towards pay to play events. They are heavily promoting these “best of LI games” charging $300 a pop for a made up event. I get it’s a business, and everyone wants to be on these lists, but try not to get caught up in it. It’s no Under Armour! For the record, my daughter has always been on the “list”
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What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
So this is a money grab again from LILJ

Precisely.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
So this is a money grab again from LILJ

Precisely.

And since there are multiple rounds of the list, if you attend some winter events maybe you will have a chance to make the next round.
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What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
So this is a money grab again from LILJ

Precisely.

No point in doing these list for the younger age groups.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
So this is a money grab again from LILJ

Precisely.

No point in doing these list for the younger age groups.


Actually the younger age groups are much more likely to participate in the event. Most older girls are going to various camps and prospect days when the actual tournament is.

Remember this is a cash grab. No more no less
Who are you using for training outside of your team?
Private lessons, clinics.
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Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!

What names do you hear?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!


We like GLE for the strength training and agility. Not as much for the actual lacrosse side of things. (at least for more advanced players, would be fine for younger/rec players trying to get more reps.)
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!


We like GLE for the strength training and agility. Not as much for the actual lacrosse side of things. (at least for more advanced players, would be fine for younger/rec players trying to get more reps.)
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It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
What list and who made this list?

The “list” is extremely political. Many deserving girls left off, and some real head scratchers. This organization is for profit (who isn’t in lax?). Overall I think they do a decent job, but they should try to be less bias’s towards pay to play events. They are heavily promoting these “best of LI games” charging $300 a pop for a made up event. I get it’s a business, and everyone wants to be on these lists, but try not to get caught up in it. It’s no Under Armour! For the record, my daughter has always been on the “list”

I don't see the list as political but more the top players from the top teams. 80% are from YJ and FLG. It makes sense.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.

Where can I find this list
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!


We like GLE for the strength training and agility. Not as much for the actual lacrosse side of things. (at least for more advanced players, would be fine for younger/rec players trying to get more reps.)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
What list and who made this list?

The “list” is extremely political. Many deserving girls left off, and some real head scratchers. This organization is for profit (who isn’t in lax?). Overall I think they do a decent job, but they should try to be less bias’s towards pay to play events. They are heavily promoting these “best of LI games” charging $300 a pop for a made up event. I get it’s a business, and everyone wants to be on these lists, but try not to get caught up in it. It’s no Under Armour! For the record, my daughter has always been on the “list”

I don't see the list as political but more the top players from the top teams. 80% are from YJ and FLG. It makes sense.
So what expert picked the names on the list.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!


We like GLE for the strength training and agility. Not as much for the actual lacrosse side of things. (at least for more advanced players, would be fine for younger/rec players trying to get more reps.)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
What list and who made this list?

The “list” is extremely political. Many deserving girls left off, and some real head scratchers. This organization is for profit (who isn’t in lax?). Overall I think they do a decent job, but they should try to be less bias’s towards pay to play events. They are heavily promoting these “best of LI games” charging $300 a pop for a made up event. I get it’s a business, and everyone wants to be on these lists, but try not to get caught up in it. It’s no Under Armour! For the record, my daughter has always been on the “list”

I don't see the list as political but more the top players from the top teams. 80% are from YJ and FLG. It makes sense.

Since when is FLG a top team?? Just lost me!
at the 27 level, FLG is clear #2 team. YJ B (Gaghan) is the only other team that's even close.
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at the 27 level, FLG is clear #2 team. YJ B (Gaghan) is the only other team that's even close.

That’s great to hear that FLG has a relevant team. Hopefully they can stay together and maintain. 7th grade is pretty young and there is traditionally much movement at this age. Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out by 9th grade
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Who are you using for training outside of your team?

GLE
FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.
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at the 27 level, FLG is clear #2 team. YJ B (Gaghan) is the only other team that's even close.

That’s great to hear that FLG has a relevant team. Hopefully they can stay together and maintain. 7th grade is pretty young and there is traditionally much movement at this age. Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out by 9th grade
FLG 27 navy is a great team with a great coach, that team doesn’t run the offense around the same 2 kids.
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FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.

That may be true, but who would want to live in or near that cesspool?
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FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.
FLG has played every team they have lost to within a goal or 2. Aces, Pride and YJ. They seem to play a great team game of lacrosse and are very well coached. Doesn't seem to be any drama within the team either.
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FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.
FLG has played every team they have lost to within a goal or 2. Aces, Pride and YJ. They seem to play a great team game of lacrosse and are very well coached. Doesn't seem to be any drama within the team either.

all the FLG parents out in full force
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FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.

That may be true, but who would want to live in or near that cesspool?

Baltimore? You've been watching too much of The Wire.

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend driving around the city but there is some of the wealthiest areas in the nation 30 min outside the city.


Pride is a top-15 nationally team, no doubt about it. You got Hero's M&D, Aces, YJs then a gap with a bunch of good teams.
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FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.
FLG has played every team they have lost to within a goal or 2. Aces, Pride and YJ. They seem to play a great team game of lacrosse and are very well coached. Doesn't seem to be any drama within the team either.

all the FLG parents out in full force

Cant wait for the video commercial after all this written press...
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FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.

That may be true, but who would want to live in or near that cesspool?

Baltimore? You've been watching too much of The Wire.

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend driving around the city but there is some of the wealthiest areas in the nation 30 min outside the city.


Pride is a top-15 nationally team, no doubt about it. You got Hero's M&D, Aces, YJs then a gap with a bunch of good teams.

As someone who lives near Baltimore I am offended. Lol. Not really.

Baltimore is a cesspool. But not the surrounding areas. Which is where almost all of the players come from.

And as for FLG competing with the top teams from the "cesspool "......um, not likely. Spend a weekend with Hero's Green or M&D.

Of course Aces and YJ are tough, so maybe you would do ok after competing against them.
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FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.


true but they are still the 2nd best team on the island. Probably same level as prime time if you are looking at metro NY.
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.
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wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
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wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.

Completely meaningless. Short-handed indoor games with goalie restarts don't predict how teams will do in real lacrosse games.

For example, last year Stars beat M&D.
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wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.

Completely meaningless. Short-handed indoor games with goalie restarts don't predict how teams will do in real lacrosse games.

For example, last year Stars beat M&D.

It is somewhat meaningless. But you can still tell skill levels, speed and overall talent. What is meaningless is play calling and game planning.
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Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
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Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.

Completely meaningless. Short-handed indoor games with goalie restarts don't predict how teams will do in real lacrosse games.

For example, last year Stars beat M&D.

It is somewhat meaningless. But you can still tell skill levels, speed and overall talent. What is meaningless is play calling and game planning.

Scores are meaningless for indoors, that's the point I think.

Some teams will have the goalie clear to midfield to try and score quick. Teams that are trying to get better will have their goalies move around or dump off to the side, forcing their defender to work on clearing it out.

My daughter played against Top Guns in the fall, they are solid. A few good scorers. I think they are improved from last year and I expect them to be in that 15-25 range at end of summer.
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Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.

UNC sent out email yesterday. I can repost here if you aren't on the list. Daughters (24 and 27) went to UNC winter camp and both said it was the best camp they had ever been to by a mile
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Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.


We went to AU Select. Agree it was very good, not great. That said, I think they need to get away from the region nature of it, at least at the youth levels. Two dominant teams last year (one NY, one MD) and they other teams were pretty overmatched.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.


We went to AU Select. Agree it was very good, not great. That said, I think they need to get away from the region nature of it, at least at the youth levels. Two dominant teams last year (one NY, one MD) and they other teams were pretty overmatched.

Who runs AU Select, and how political do you think tryouts will be?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.


We went to AU Select. Agree it was very good, not great. That said, I think they need to get away from the region nature of it, at least at the youth levels. Two dominant teams last year (one NY, one MD) and they other teams were pretty overmatched.

Who runs AU Select, and how political do you think tryouts will be?

Its run by the league itself. AU players are supposedly doing the assessment. Assume LI tryouts will have Kylie, Kerrigan and other local stars judging tryouts
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Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.


We went to AU Select. Agree it was very good, not great. That said, I think they need to get away from the region nature of it, at least at the youth levels. Two dominant teams last year (one NY, one MD) and they other teams were pretty overmatched.

AU select you mean Athletes Unlimited Features? There was two dominant teams at 2027 level, both MD. Ended up playing each other in championship, neither team lost a game other than to themselves.
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Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.

UNC sent out email yesterday. I can repost here if you aren't on the list. Daughters (24 and 27) went to UNC winter camp and both said it was the best camp they had ever been to by a mile

Yes, please!
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wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.

Completely meaningless. Short-handed indoor games with goalie restarts don't predict how teams will do in real lacrosse games.

For example, last year Stars beat M&D.

It is somewhat meaningless. But you can still tell skill levels, speed and overall talent. What is meaningless is play calling and game planning.

Scores are meaningless for indoors, that's the point I think.

Some teams will have the goalie clear to midfield to try and score quick. Teams that are trying to get better will have their goalies move around or dump off to the side, forcing their defender to work on clearing it out.

My daughter played against Top Guns in the fall, they are solid. A few good scorers. I think they are improved from last year and I expect them to be in that 15-25 range at end of summer.

They better improve by a lot if they expect to be top 20. On a regular outdoor field, they frequently lost to top teams by 10-15
Fake news. Had a nice fall.
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Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Congrats. 5-5 against C competition. Way to reach for the stars
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Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4
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Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

This is basically a collection of rec teams. Anybody, including TG at the 27' age group would lose to any top 10 A team by a lot
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Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4


That Colorado Team is pretty good, beat Heros White. Would give problems to a lot of good teams too.
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Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

They are a solid team this year. The tournament where they went 0-3 was their first tournament together. The team is half new. The only person writing negatively is the one who’s daughter didn’t make it this year. The previous year everyone just made the team due to COVID. Watch and see. They are good.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

This is basically a collection of rec teams. Anybody, including TG at the 27' age group would lose to any top 10 A team by a lot

Steps is generally a good program, but they split their 2 teams relatively evenly at this age group for some reason.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.

UNC sent out email yesterday. I can repost here if you aren't on the list. Daughters (24 and 27) went to UNC winter camp and both said it was the best camp they had ever been to by a mile

Yes, please!

BOTC wouldn't let me post full note, but youth camp is June 13-14 with elite camp for 24s and 25s the week after.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.

UNC sent out email yesterday. I can repost here if you aren't on the list. Daughters (24 and 27) went to UNC winter camp and both said it was the best camp they had ever been to by a mile

Yes, please!

BOTC wouldn't let me post full note, but youth camp is June 13-14 with elite camp for 24s and 25s the week after.

Went to site, thanks!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

This is basically a collection of rec teams. Anybody, including TG at the 27' age group would lose to any top 10 A team by a lot

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

They are a solid team this year. The tournament where they went 0-3 was their first tournament together. The team is half new. The only person writing negatively is the one who’s daughter didn’t make it this year. The previous year everyone just made the team due to COVID. Watch and see. They are good.

They are good and other than YJ A top guns can beat any LI team right now
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

This is basically a collection of rec teams. Anybody, including TG at the 27' age group would lose to any top 10 A team by a lot

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

They are a solid team this year. The tournament where they went 0-3 was their first tournament together. The team is half new. The only person writing negatively is the one who’s daughter didn’t make it this year. The previous year everyone just made the team due to COVID. Watch and see. They are good.

They are good and other than YJ A top guns can beat any LI team right now


Good luck to them this weekend. I hope they bring home the championship
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

This is basically a collection of rec teams. Anybody, including TG at the 27' age group would lose to any top 10 A team by a lot

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

They are a solid team this year. The tournament where they went 0-3 was their first tournament together. The team is half new. The only person writing negatively is the one who’s daughter didn’t make it this year. The previous year everyone just made the team due to COVID. Watch and see. They are good.

They are good and other than YJ A top guns can beat any LI team right now


Agree they are a good (maybe very good) team. That said, I watched one of their games at Live Love Lax and unless they were missing several key players, FLG and YJ B would both beat them by at least 5.
Flg is overrated
Anyone see this come out? Looks like a two day event similar to the AU Futures. So many camps and clinics nowadays, hard to tell which are legit. and which are not.

https://www.apexlacrosseevents.com/girlsyouthgames
Would be nice if they took the top “x” players from all over, then jumbled them up so Maryland kids could play with LI kids, could play with Colorado kids etc. Great way to make friends and learn different styles of lacrosse.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone see this come out? Looks like a two day event similar to the AU Futures. So many camps and clinics nowadays, hard to tell which are legit. and which are not.

https://www.apexlacrosseevents.com/girlsyouthgames

Never heard of this event. But the events they run for boys are very well organized and attracted top MD talent.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone see this come out? Looks like a two day event similar to the AU Futures. So many camps and clinics nowadays, hard to tell which are legit. and which are not.

https://www.apexlacrosseevents.com/girlsyouthgames

Never heard of this event. But the events they run for boys are very well organized and attracted top MD talent.

It doesn’t even have the price in the registration form. Anything like that is a total money grab.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.


Top Guns did well, went 1-2 but were within 3-5 goals (beat MDU by 5, lost to LBC by 3) of everyone but BLC who is a top-5 team.

Watching them, I think they have very good scorers, really could change the plane of the shot, used a lot of bounces on the turf. Fields were very narrow, teams that are physical have advantage.

I would put them in front of Monster by a small margin, slightly behind Prime Time.

Hard to say how they translate to outdoor, but shooting is their strength. Emma Ward is going to be a fabulous HC one day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Flg is overrated
Who says?
Everyone…..I mean everyone.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Flg is overrated
Who says?

Lots of FLG haters. Why?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Flg is overrated
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Flg is overrated

Still a better option than ninety one
At least 91 has a competitive program overall.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At least 91 has a competitive program overall.


at least?? Really haven't seen much on the girl side.
Hope FLG gets to play YJ B sometime soon so we can put some of these debates to bed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hope FLG gets to play YJ B sometime soon so we can put some of these debates to bed.
FLG would win
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hope FLG gets to play YJ B sometime soon so we can put some of these debates to bed.
FLG would win

My daughter's team played flg 27 in summer league. Game was extremely competitive and flg was playing up a division. They are smaller in size but move the ball well and make very few mistakes.

Are comments here directed at girls program as a whole? I know their older teams are not very strong but this team can play.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hope FLG gets to play YJ B sometime soon so we can put some of these debates to bed.
FLG would win

My daughter's team played flg 27 in summer league. Game was extremely competitive and flg was playing up a division. They are smaller in size but move the ball well and make very few mistakes.

Are comments here directed at girls program as a whole? I know their older teams are not very strong but this team can play.

Definitely stop judging younger FLG teams by what the older teams are doing. Clubs can get stronger. Maybe younger team has a more dedicated coach and more dedicated kids? Things change …
This FLG team is well balanced with all their girls in top shape. Had a real good team with a great middie and great goalie. They lost 2 good players to YJ and picked up two real good YJ players in return. If this team sticks together, picks up 1 or 2 more players to round off a short roster, they will be a force for several years.
Why is FLG and YJB being discussed again? Who’s starting an issue with these 2 teams when there shouldn’t be? Is it YJ A trying to cause a rivalry with those teams, which both by summer will be right on YJ A.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This FLG team is well balanced with all their girls in top shape. Had a real good team with a great middie and great goalie. They lost 2 good players to YJ and picked up two real good YJ players in return. If this team sticks together, picks up 1 or 2 more players to round off a short roster, they will be a force for several years.
Once they see that the middie doesn’t play because of mommy and daddy they will also leave, doesn’t matter if the kids great she won’t get playing time.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This FLG team is well balanced with all their girls in top shape. Had a real good team with a great middie and great goalie. They lost 2 good players to YJ and picked up two real good YJ players in return. If this team sticks together, picks up 1 or 2 more players to round off a short roster, they will be a force for several years.

Big IF in my opinion. if I was a parent on FLG I'd start to demand that you play in better tournaments and against better competition consistently. The rest of the club is very weak so it's challenging. Playing in these cupcake tournaments beating up on much lower level competition proves nothing and will be tough to hold that team together unless that changes
Where is the list of FLG college commitments on the girls side? Can’t seem to find that anywhere
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is the list of FLG college commitments on the girls side? Can’t seem to find that anywhere

These girls are in 7th grade, generally they wait until junior year to commit. Come back in 4 years.
So …..is there a list? Most competitive programs have one on boys and girls side. I realize they are in 7th grade. But there is a reason some programs are very successful and some aren’t.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is the list of FLG college commitments on the girls side? Can’t seem to find that anywhere

These girls are in 7th grade, generally they wait until junior year to commit. Come back in 4 years.

The poster was saying a committed list from older players
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At least 91 has a competitive program overall.

YJ A and Top Guns are legit in this age group. 91 and LaxOn are definitely much better than they used to be.....the rest are still building and developing
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At least 91 has a competitive program overall.

YJ A and Top Guns are legit in this age group. 91 and LaxOn are definitely much better than they used to be.....the rest are still building and developing

So YJ A and Top Guns are 1, 2 on LI at this age group?
Clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the teams.
[quote=Anonymous]Clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the teams.[/quote

They are better but not as wide of a margin that most people think.
You’re delusional TG Daddy. Top Guns is below YJ B as well as FLG Navy.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You’re delusional TG Daddy. Top Guns is below YJ B as well as FLG Navy.

We played both Top Guns and YJ B, Top Guns is the better team based on what I saw personally.

Better shooters, granted, one was indoor, one was field.
[quote=Anonymous]You’re delusional TG Daddy. Top Guns is below YJ B as well as FLG Navy.[/quote

TG daddy not me. Just being honest with my OPINION
The real top squad is Empire!
Empire has a list of commits! Go chartreuce!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At least 91 has a competitive program overall.

YJ A and Top Guns are legit in this age group. 91 and LaxOn are definitely much better than they used to be.....the rest are still building and developing

l o l
People don’t understand your binary codes!!!!!!
Prime Time currently ranked #5, is that legit or overrated? Having played them four times since June, I'm going to say overrated, though they do have two really good scorers.

Based on the math, their two best games was a 17-6 win over HHH National and a 12-2 win over MD United.
I would put YJ A and Top Guns ahead of them, can't speak to FLG as Ive never seen them.

Should be noted they tied YL B team 8-8 in fall.
Is tg doing the spring league. If so many of your questions will be answered
Yj A
Flg
Jesters
Yj B
Anyone know who else?
Only a month and a half away!!
Prime time is somewhere from 10-15. Basically 2 very good players. Well coached. They’re not a top tier team at this age, but can play competitively with some of the clubs on any given day.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is tg doing the spring league. If so many of your questions will be answered
Yj A
Flg
Jesters
Yj B
Anyone know who else?
Only a month and a half away!!

Empire doesn't need any questions answered
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is tg doing the spring league. If so many of your questions will be answered
Yj A
Flg
Jesters
Yj B
Anyone know who else?
Only a month and a half away!!

What spring league are you referring to?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is tg doing the spring league. If so many of your questions will be answered
Yj A
Flg
Jesters
Yj B
Anyone know who else?
Only a month and a half away!!

what spring league? probably another LILJ money grab based on the clubs listed
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is tg doing the spring league. If so many of your questions will be answered
Yj A
Flg
Jesters
Yj B
Anyone know who else?
Only a month and a half away!!

what spring league? probably another LILJ money grab based on the clubs listed
LOL, Everyone sees it
You can tell everyone on here has a ton of passion for this game. But you can also tell from the threads who has never played a team sport before. There are some great posts with perspective from parents who have been through this before. They seem to resonate most about what to look for in a Team.

Those around 2027 Girls Lacrosse on Long Island are extremely fortunate. We are all treated to watching a very high level of ball. Not to mention these girls are in 7th Grade. The participation at the age is incredible from the PAL level all the way up to the amount of Club Teams we have in the area. If you are new to the area and your daughter has a passion for team sports, it is never too late. And there are really no mistakes given all of the options in the area. Just talk to families within each program and you will know what makes most sense for your daughter.

The Spring-Summer 2021/2022 Club Season is going to be a fun one. You can already feel the energy from the posts in these chats.

In order of where the Teams “ranked” on USCL.com at the end of the 2021 Summer Season. Because players and parents will say they don’t care about rankings, but there are a ton of people who can’t wait for when they get updated every week. Just another question to honestly ask your daughter and family if that means something to them and will it mean something for recruiting down the line.

#6 YELLOW JACKETS– STADLER-STADLER-GRAZIDEI (Fall 2021 #6)
Picks up another great goalie, which was already a strength of the team, and has picked up strong athletes as they always do. Stress levels seem high, but the parents want to see their daughters compete against the best of the best. And they did just that last year showing they could beat anyone when it counted in the Mid-Atlantic. You have to route for this team to do well because it highlights the quality of players we have in this area. You have to feel sorry for the coaches after reading these forums though. But that is the stress when every family expects their daughter to play at a top college program coming off this Team. For those who always ask who is North Shore Elite, they get the majority of their players from this Team and play in tournaments where it is an off weekend for Yellow Jackets. Fear the Bee and many fear battling Carol Rose’s program.

Cons: Constant stress level between parents, players, coaches, etc. When you have so many of the best players on Long Island, you are expected to not only win, but take the game to the next level. Playing time will also be an issue for some who want to play in all of the big games. But you could say that about any Club and that is why it is so important to find a Club where your daughter will play in those big moments. Regardless if they are at the top level of talent or not. That is where they will build confidence.

#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

#20 LIBERTY BLACK (Fall 2021 #27) Lost one very good middie to Yellow Jackets Stadler and the forum erupted especially after losing another top player to YJ Grazidei in 2020. Players who want to play against the best of the best are commonly lured to YJA as the best team on Long Island for 2027. Yet when you talk to families with daughters on this Team, they all seem to be incredibly happy with the coaching and the experience their daughters are getting. We have all read in the forum there seemed to be some perceived drama last season with this Team, but it sounds like people have moved on for various different reasons and there is a good vibe internally with the Team this season. Liberty Lacrosse has been around forever and some will argue they have not been the same since they lost their pipeline from Manhasset, but this is not Danielle Gallagher’s first rodeo and she has produced some incredible Liberty teams through the years. They have two of the best coaches/players in Danielle Gallagher and Amanda Johansen bringing their knowledge of the game through different lenses and different eras. It sounds like this 2027 team gets their time in both clinics and team practices with both. The starters on this Team seem to go about their business with a chip on their shoulder. Highlighted by their battle with North Shore Elite in the Championship Game of the 2021 Lacrosse by 3 Hofstra Summer Tournament, losing by a goal in the final minute and taking out Top Guns Black & Tradition in the same tournament. The Team seems to have two full time coaches with a lot of experience in the game and parents and players alike seem very happy. But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

CONS: According to the forum, the Club “has been sold to a sports aggregator”. That uncertainty is not great but with everything being anonymous in these forums, how much weight should a family place on that. But if true, families need to worry about the Club’s strongest asset in Danielle Gallagher checking out. But in a world where Clubs can make a lot of money, I guess we could all be worried about that with any Club if the price was right! Doubters will point to beatdowns this Fall against Eagle Stix, which was the #1 ranked team at the end of the 2021 season. Yellow Jackets Stadler tied that team this fall, which highlights to people the caliber of athletes at both those programs and questions whether Liberty will ever be able to compete. This team has also been knocked as a team of girls that play soccer, which gets them taking hits for missing fall tournaments like Queen of the Island because of prior soccer commitments. But some will say it is better for girls to be more well-rounded athletes and every college coach looks for the three sport athlete. However, it is important with any of these Clubs that you communicate your daughter’s dedication to each sport and match it with the Club.

#31 Yellow Jackets – Gaghan (Fall Season #12)
Don’t look now but there is a lot of energy and positivity coming out of this team in the Fall. Making a huge jump in the rankings and feeling confident about running with anyone on the Island. Doubters will point to all their better players ultimately getting nabbed by Stadler’s YJ Team, but we have already seen that with all of the other programs. While I think some parents are hoping they can run with YJ Stadler, it is going to be a lot more fun watching what they can do against FLG, Top Guns, & Liberty Black. It sets up for some battles to start the Club Season at the Spring Queen of the Island.

Cons: Turnover has been a real issue with this team, but something easily solved with a strong Spring-Summer season. You will always have to hear about “your older sister” in YJA, but for those who are strong enough to block that out, you are getting a ton of playing time in all the same tournaments that Carol Rose will get YJA into. But if the positive energy fades because of losses against Maryland teams and top Long Island teams, parents and players may look to move out of the shadow into other programs in the Top 5.

#36 Top Gun Blacks (Fall Season 2021 #21)
A ton of buzz coming out of the Shannon Smith led Top Guns Black team already this year. This team is coached by Shannon’s brother and Emma Ward, who is always swarmed at tournaments by girls of all ages. They attracted a ton of great players who wanted playing time and were confident that Top Guns would put them in all the right tournaments. Playing time in top tournaments is important and it has allowed this team to attract even more talent in the off-season. People knock them for loses like the game against Liberty Black in the Hofstra tournament last fall, but this is a different team and have high aspirations. Top Guns could see an influx of even more top players with a great season in 2022.

CONS: Parents have complained about coaching and some sideline antics, but not sure if there has been much attrition of players so it seems like noise that is common in this forum for all Clubs.

#30 Empire (Fall Season #63)
You have to LOVE the enthusiasm out of the Empire posts. Pure positivity from someone passionately believing in their Team. Likely will not compete with any of the Teams above, but for many does it even matter if their daughters are having a blast playing the game with friends. It sounds like a nice place for a lot of players on the Island. And the joy they will have if they were able to beat any of the teams above!


I hope this helps those who were new to the area or those who’s daughter might be looking for something better suited to her ability and desire. Let the debating begin. But regardless of your thoughts, everyone will agree that there is some great lacrosse ahead of us this season and we are fortunate to watch it and the girls are blessed to play it.


#takeareport
Empire 4 Life!
To summarize that very well thought out long post. Find what’s best for your kid. Not you….your kid.

Ps. There’s also some other good travel teams around. Rankings aren’t everything. Well, sometimes they are.
Some doesn’t have a job.
You know way too much about 12 year old girls lacrosse.
[quote=Anonymous]You can tell everyone on here has a ton of passion for this game. But you can also tell from the threads who has never played a team sport before. There are some great posts with perspective from parents who have been through this before. They seem to resonate most about what to look for in a Team.

Those around 2027 Girls Lacrosse on Long Island are extremely fortunate. We are all treated to watching a very high level of ball. Not to mention these girls are in 7th Grade. The participation at the age is incredible from the PAL level all the way up to the amount of Club Teams we have in the area. If you are new to the area and your daughter has a passion for team sports, it is never too late. And there are really no mistakes given all of the options in the area. Just talk to families within each program and you will know what makes most sense for your daughter.

The Spring-Summer 2021/2022 Club Season is going to be a fun one. You can already feel the energy from the posts in these chats.

In order of where the Teams “ranked” on USCL.com at the end of the 2021 Summer Season. Because players and parents will say they don’t care about rankings, but there are a ton of people who can’t wait for when they get updated every week. Just another question to honestly ask your daughter and family if that means something to them and will it mean something for recruiting down the line.

#6 YELLOW JACKETS– STADLER-STADLER-GRAZIDEI (Fall 2021 #6)
Picks up another great goalie, which was already a strength of the team, and has picked up strong athletes as they always do. Stress levels seem high, but the parents want to see their daughters compete against the best of the best. And they did just that last year showing they could beat anyone when it counted in the Mid-Atlantic. You have to route for this team to do well because it highlights the quality of players we have in this area. You have to feel sorry for the coaches after reading these forums though. But that is the stress when every family expects their daughter to play at a top college program coming off this Team. For those who always ask who is North Shore Elite, they get the majority of their players from this Team and play in tournaments where it is an off weekend for Yellow Jackets. Fear the Bee and many fear battling Carol Rose’s program.

Cons: Constant stress level between parents, players, coaches, etc. When you have so many of the best players on Long Island, you are expected to not only win, but take the game to the next level. Playing time will also be an issue for some who want to play in all of the big games. But you could say that about any Club and that is why it is so important to find a Club where your daughter will play in those big moments. Regardless if they are at the top level of talent or not. That is where they will build confidence.

#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

#20 LIBERTY BLACK (Fall 2021 #27) Lost one very good middie to Yellow Jackets Stadler and the forum erupted especially after losing another top player to YJ Grazidei in 2020. Players who want to play against the best of the best are commonly lured to YJA as the best team on Long Island for 2027. Yet when you talk to families with daughters on this Team, they all seem to be incredibly happy with the coaching and the experience their daughters are getting. We have all read in the forum there seemed to be some perceived drama last season with this Team, but it sounds like people have moved on for various different reasons and there is a good vibe internally with the Team this season. Liberty Lacrosse has been around forever and some will argue they have not been the same since they lost their pipeline from Manhasset, but this is not Danielle Gallagher’s first rodeo and she has produced some incredible Liberty teams through the years. They have two of the best coaches/players in Danielle Gallagher and Amanda Johansen bringing their knowledge of the game through different lenses and different eras. It sounds like this 2027 team gets their time in both clinics and team practices with both. The starters on this Team seem to go about their business with a chip on their shoulder. Highlighted by their battle with North Shore Elite in the Championship Game of the 2021 Lacrosse by 3 Hofstra Summer Tournament, losing by a goal in the final minute and taking out Top Guns Black & Tradition in the same tournament. The Team seems to have two full time coaches with a lot of experience in the game and parents and players alike seem very happy. But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

CONS: According to the forum, the Club “has been sold to a sports aggregator”. That uncertainty is not great but with everything being anonymous in these forums, how much weight should a family place on that. But if true, families need to worry about the Club’s strongest asset in Danielle Gallagher checking out. But in a world where Clubs can make a lot of money, I guess we could all be worried about that with any Club if the price was right! Doubters will point to beatdowns this Fall against Eagle Stix, which was the #1 ranked team at the end of the 2021 season. Yellow Jackets Stadler tied that team this fall, which highlights to people the caliber of athletes at both those programs and questions whether Liberty will ever be able to compete. This team has also been knocked as a team of girls that play soccer, which gets them taking hits for missing fall tournaments like Queen of the Island because of prior soccer commitments. But some will say it is better for girls to be more well-rounded athletes and every college coach looks for the three sport athlete. However, it is important with any of these Clubs that you communicate your daughter’s dedication to each sport and match it with the Club.

#31 Yellow Jackets – Gaghan (Fall Season #12)
Don’t look now but there is a lot of energy and positivity coming out of this team in the Fall. Making a huge jump in the rankings and feeling confident about running with anyone on the Island. Doubters will point to all their better players ultimately getting nabbed by Stadler’s YJ Team, but we have already seen that with all of the other programs. While I think some parents are hoping they can run with YJ Stadler, it is going to be a lot more fun watching what they can do against FLG, Top Guns, & Liberty Black. It sets up for some battles to start the Club Season at the Spring Queen of the Island.

Cons: Turnover has been a real issue with this team, but something easily solved with a strong Spring-Summer season. You will always have to hear about “your older sister” in YJA, but for those who are strong enough to block that out, you are getting a ton of playing time in all the same tournaments that Carol Rose will get YJA into. But if the positive energy fades because of losses against Maryland teams and top Long Island teams, parents and players may look to move out of the shadow into other programs in the Top 5.

#36 Top Gun Blacks (Fall Season 2021 #21)
A ton of buzz coming out of the Shannon Smith led Top Guns Black team already this year. This team is coached by Shannon’s brother and Emma Ward, who is always swarmed at tournaments by girls of all ages. They attracted a ton of great players who wanted playing time and were confident that Top Guns would put them in all the right tournaments. Playing time in top tournaments is important and it has allowed this team to attract even more talent in the off-season. People knock them for loses like the game against Liberty Black in the Hofstra tournament last fall, but this is a different team and have high aspirations. Top Guns could see an influx of even more top players with a great season in 2022.

CONS: Parents have complained about coaching and some sideline antics, but not sure if there has been much attrition of players so it seems like noise that is common in this forum for all Clubs.

#30 Empire (Fall Season #63)
You have to LOVE the enthusiasm out of the Empire posts. Pure positivity from someone passionately believing in their Team. Likely will not compete with any of the Teams above, but for many does it even matter if their daughters are having a blast playing the game with friends. It sounds like a nice place for a lot of players on the Island. And the joy they will have if they were able to beat any of the teams above!


I hope this helps those who were new to the area or those who’s daughter might be looking for something better suited to her ability and desire. Let the debating begin. But regardless of your thoughts, everyone will agree that there is some great lacrosse ahead of us this season and we are fortunate to watch it and the girls are blessed to play it.


#takeareport[/quote

Wow not even a mention of Jesters….the disrespect.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can tell everyone on here has a ton of passion for this game. But you can also tell from the threads who has never played a team sport before. There are some great posts with perspective from parents who have been through this before. They seem to resonate most about what to look for in a Team.

Those around 2027 Girls Lacrosse on Long Island are extremely fortunate. We are all treated to watching a very high level of ball. Not to mention these girls are in 7th Grade. The participation at the age is incredible from the PAL level all the way up to the amount of Club Teams we have in the area. If you are new to the area and your daughter has a passion for team sports, it is never too late. And there are really no mistakes given all of the options in the area. Just talk to families within each program and you will know what makes most sense for your daughter.

The Spring-Summer 2021/2022 Club Season is going to be a fun one. You can already feel the energy from the posts in these chats.

In order of where the Teams “ranked” on USCL.com at the end of the 2021 Summer Season. Because players and parents will say they don’t care about rankings, but there are a ton of people who can’t wait for when they get updated every week. Just another question to honestly ask your daughter and family if that means something to them and will it mean something for recruiting down the line.

#6 YELLOW JACKETS– STADLER-STADLER-GRAZIDEI (Fall 2021 #6)
Picks up another great goalie, which was already a strength of the team, and has picked up strong athletes as they always do. Stress levels seem high, but the parents want to see their daughters compete against the best of the best. And they did just that last year showing they could beat anyone when it counted in the Mid-Atlantic. You have to route for this team to do well because it highlights the quality of players we have in this area. You have to feel sorry for the coaches after reading these forums though. But that is the stress when every family expects their daughter to play at a top college program coming off this Team. For those who always ask who is North Shore Elite, they get the majority of their players from this Team and play in tournaments where it is an off weekend for Yellow Jackets. Fear the Bee and many fear battling Carol Rose’s program.

Cons: Constant stress level between parents, players, coaches, etc. When you have so many of the best players on Long Island, you are expected to not only win, but take the game to the next level. Playing time will also be an issue for some who want to play in all of the big games. But you could say that about any Club and that is why it is so important to find a Club where your daughter will play in those big moments. Regardless if they are at the top level of talent or not. That is where they will build confidence.

#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

#20 LIBERTY BLACK (Fall 2021 #27) Lost one very good middie to Yellow Jackets Stadler and the forum erupted especially after losing another top player to YJ Grazidei in 2020. Players who want to play against the best of the best are commonly lured to YJA as the best team on Long Island for 2027. Yet when you talk to families with daughters on this Team, they all seem to be incredibly happy with the coaching and the experience their daughters are getting. We have all read in the forum there seemed to be some perceived drama last season with this Team, but it sounds like people have moved on for various different reasons and there is a good vibe internally with the Team this season. Liberty Lacrosse has been around forever and some will argue they have not been the same since they lost their pipeline from Manhasset, but this is not Danielle Gallagher’s first rodeo and she has produced some incredible Liberty teams through the years. They have two of the best coaches/players in Danielle Gallagher and Amanda Johansen bringing their knowledge of the game through different lenses and different eras. It sounds like this 2027 team gets their time in both clinics and team practices with both. The starters on this Team seem to go about their business with a chip on their shoulder. Highlighted by their battle with North Shore Elite in the Championship Game of the 2021 Lacrosse by 3 Hofstra Summer Tournament, losing by a goal in the final minute and taking out Top Guns Black & Tradition in the same tournament. The Team seems to have two full time coaches with a lot of experience in the game and parents and players alike seem very happy. But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

CONS: According to the forum, the Club “has been sold to a sports aggregator”. That uncertainty is not great but with everything being anonymous in these forums, how much weight should a family place on that. But if true, families need to worry about the Club’s strongest asset in Danielle Gallagher checking out. But in a world where Clubs can make a lot of money, I guess we could all be worried about that with any Club if the price was right! Doubters will point to beatdowns this Fall against Eagle Stix, which was the #1 ranked team at the end of the 2021 season. Yellow Jackets Stadler tied that team this fall, which highlights to people the caliber of athletes at both those programs and questions whether Liberty will ever be able to compete. This team has also been knocked as a team of girls that play soccer, which gets them taking hits for missing fall tournaments like Queen of the Island because of prior soccer commitments. But some will say it is better for girls to be more well-rounded athletes and every college coach looks for the three sport athlete. However, it is important with any of these Clubs that you communicate your daughter’s dedication to each sport and match it with the Club.

#31 Yellow Jackets – Gaghan (Fall Season #12)
Don’t look now but there is a lot of energy and positivity coming out of this team in the Fall. Making a huge jump in the rankings and feeling confident about running with anyone on the Island. Doubters will point to all their better players ultimately getting nabbed by Stadler’s YJ Team, but we have already seen that with all of the other programs. While I think some parents are hoping they can run with YJ Stadler, it is going to be a lot more fun watching what they can do against FLG, Top Guns, & Liberty Black. It sets up for some battles to start the Club Season at the Spring Queen of the Island.

Cons: Turnover has been a real issue with this team, but something easily solved with a strong Spring-Summer season. You will always have to hear about “your older sister” in YJA, but for those who are strong enough to block that out, you are getting a ton of playing time in all the same tournaments that Carol Rose will get YJA into. But if the positive energy fades because of losses against Maryland teams and top Long Island teams, parents and players may look to move out of the shadow into other programs in the Top 5.

#36 Top Gun Blacks (Fall Season 2021 #21)
A ton of buzz coming out of the Shannon Smith led Top Guns Black team already this year. This team is coached by Shannon’s brother and Emma Ward, who is always swarmed at tournaments by girls of all ages. They attracted a ton of great players who wanted playing time and were confident that Top Guns would put them in all the right tournaments. Playing time in top tournaments is important and it has allowed this team to attract even more talent in the off-season. People knock them for loses like the game against Liberty Black in the Hofstra tournament last fall, but this is a different team and have high aspirations. Top Guns could see an influx of even more top players with a great season in 2022.

CONS: Parents have complained about coaching and some sideline antics, but not sure if there has been much attrition of players so it seems like noise that is common in this forum for all Clubs.

#30 Empire (Fall Season #63)
You have to LOVE the enthusiasm out of the Empire posts. Pure positivity from someone passionately believing in their Team. Likely will not compete with any of the Teams above, but for many does it even matter if their daughters are having a blast playing the game with friends. It sounds like a nice place for a lot of players on the Island. And the joy they will have if they were able to beat any of the teams above!


I hope this helps those who were new to the area or those who’s daughter might be looking for something better suited to her ability and desire. Let the debating begin. But regardless of your thoughts, everyone will agree that there is some great lacrosse ahead of us this season and we are fortunate to watch it and the girls are blessed to play it.


#takeareport

Oh lord. You must be the same lost who was posting these breakdowns on the boys page. Get a life creep
Some great content in the long post and I agree with 90% of it.

The big point where I disagree is around around tournament selection.

The top tourneys (lax for the cure, Live Love Lax and a couple others) already have waitlists. If you aren't playing in these tourneys as a 7th grader, there is very little change your club will get in by the time it matters. You will see several clubs with uncompetitive middle school teams register for this reason. They know if they aren't in now, they will never get in.

That pretty leaves G8 (which is invite only) and Mid Atlantic Summer championship) as the only potential summer tourneys. This is not a small deal and will hurt any chance FLG and to a lesser extent Tradition have at retaining their top players. This is not a small deal. This is the reason you always see the same teams compile talent by 9th grade.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can tell everyone on here has a ton of passion for this game. But you can also tell from the threads who has never played a team sport before. There are some great posts with perspective from parents who have been through this before. They seem to resonate most about what to look for in a Team.

Those around 2027 Girls Lacrosse on Long Island are extremely fortunate. We are all treated to watching a very high level of ball. Not to mention these girls are in 7th Grade. The participation at the age is incredible from the PAL level all the way up to the amount of Club Teams we have in the area. If you are new to the area and your daughter has a passion for team sports, it is never too late. And there are really no mistakes given all of the options in the area. Just talk to families within each program and you will know what makes most sense for your daughter.

The Spring-Summer 2021/2022 Club Season is going to be a fun one. You can already feel the energy from the posts in these chats.

In order of where the Teams “ranked” on USCL.com at the end of the 2021 Summer Season. Because players and parents will say they don’t care about rankings, but there are a ton of people who can’t wait for when they get updated every week. Just another question to honestly ask your daughter and family if that means something to them and will it mean something for recruiting down the line.

#6 YELLOW JACKETS– STADLER-STADLER-GRAZIDEI (Fall 2021 #6)
Picks up another great goalie, which was already a strength of the team, and has picked up strong athletes as they always do. Stress levels seem high, but the parents want to see their daughters compete against the best of the best. And they did just that last year showing they could beat anyone when it counted in the Mid-Atlantic. You have to route for this team to do well because it highlights the quality of players we have in this area. You have to feel sorry for the coaches after reading these forums though. But that is the stress when every family expects their daughter to play at a top college program coming off this Team. For those who always ask who is North Shore Elite, they get the majority of their players from this Team and play in tournaments where it is an off weekend for Yellow Jackets. Fear the Bee and many fear battling Carol Rose’s program.

Cons: Constant stress level between parents, players, coaches, etc. When you have so many of the best players on Long Island, you are expected to not only win, but take the game to the next level. Playing time will also be an issue for some who want to play in all of the big games. But you could say that about any Club and that is why it is so important to find a Club where your daughter will play in those big moments. Regardless if they are at the top level of talent or not. That is where they will build confidence.

#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

#20 LIBERTY BLACK (Fall 2021 #27) Lost one very good middie to Yellow Jackets Stadler and the forum erupted especially after losing another top player to YJ Grazidei in 2020. Players who want to play against the best of the best are commonly lured to YJA as the best team on Long Island for 2027. Yet when you talk to families with daughters on this Team, they all seem to be incredibly happy with the coaching and the experience their daughters are getting. We have all read in the forum there seemed to be some perceived drama last season with this Team, but it sounds like people have moved on for various different reasons and there is a good vibe internally with the Team this season. Liberty Lacrosse has been around forever and some will argue they have not been the same since they lost their pipeline from Manhasset, but this is not Danielle Gallagher’s first rodeo and she has produced some incredible Liberty teams through the years. They have two of the best coaches/players in Danielle Gallagher and Amanda Johansen bringing their knowledge of the game through different lenses and different eras. It sounds like this 2027 team gets their time in both clinics and team practices with both. The starters on this Team seem to go about their business with a chip on their shoulder. Highlighted by their battle with North Shore Elite in the Championship Game of the 2021 Lacrosse by 3 Hofstra Summer Tournament, losing by a goal in the final minute and taking out Top Guns Black & Tradition in the same tournament. The Team seems to have two full time coaches with a lot of experience in the game and parents and players alike seem very happy. But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

CONS: According to the forum, the Club “has been sold to a sports aggregator”. That uncertainty is not great but with everything being anonymous in these forums, how much weight should a family place on that. But if true, families need to worry about the Club’s strongest asset in Danielle Gallagher checking out. But in a world where Clubs can make a lot of money, I guess we could all be worried about that with any Club if the price was right! Doubters will point to beatdowns this Fall against Eagle Stix, which was the #1 ranked team at the end of the 2021 season. Yellow Jackets Stadler tied that team this fall, which highlights to people the caliber of athletes at both those programs and questions whether Liberty will ever be able to compete. This team has also been knocked as a team of girls that play soccer, which gets them taking hits for missing fall tournaments like Queen of the Island because of prior soccer commitments. But some will say it is better for girls to be more well-rounded athletes and every college coach looks for the three sport athlete. However, it is important with any of these Clubs that you communicate your daughter’s dedication to each sport and match it with the Club.

#31 Yellow Jackets – Gaghan (Fall Season #12)
Don’t look now but there is a lot of energy and positivity coming out of this team in the Fall. Making a huge jump in the rankings and feeling confident about running with anyone on the Island. Doubters will point to all their better players ultimately getting nabbed by Stadler’s YJ Team, but we have already seen that with all of the other programs. While I think some parents are hoping they can run with YJ Stadler, it is going to be a lot more fun watching what they can do against FLG, Top Guns, & Liberty Black. It sets up for some battles to start the Club Season at the Spring Queen of the Island.

Cons: Turnover has been a real issue with this team, but something easily solved with a strong Spring-Summer season. You will always have to hear about “your older sister” in YJA, but for those who are strong enough to block that out, you are getting a ton of playing time in all the same tournaments that Carol Rose will get YJA into. But if the positive energy fades because of losses against Maryland teams and top Long Island teams, parents and players may look to move out of the shadow into other programs in the Top 5.

#36 Top Gun Blacks (Fall Season 2021 #21)
A ton of buzz coming out of the Shannon Smith led Top Guns Black team already this year. This team is coached by Shannon’s brother and Emma Ward, who is always swarmed at tournaments by girls of all ages. They attracted a ton of great players who wanted playing time and were confident that Top Guns would put them in all the right tournaments. Playing time in top tournaments is important and it has allowed this team to attract even more talent in the off-season. People knock them for loses like the game against Liberty Black in the Hofstra tournament last fall, but this is a different team and have high aspirations. Top Guns could see an influx of even more top players with a great season in 2022.

CONS: Parents have complained about coaching and some sideline antics, but not sure if there has been much attrition of players so it seems like noise that is common in this forum for all Clubs.

#30 Empire (Fall Season #63)
You have to LOVE the enthusiasm out of the Empire posts. Pure positivity from someone passionately believing in their Team. Likely will not compete with any of the Teams above, but for many does it even matter if their daughters are having a blast playing the game with friends. It sounds like a nice place for a lot of players on the Island. And the joy they will have if they were able to beat any of the teams above!


I hope this helps those who were new to the area or those who’s daughter might be looking for something better suited to her ability and desire. Let the debating begin. But regardless of your thoughts, everyone will agree that there is some great lacrosse ahead of us this season and we are fortunate to watch it and the girls are blessed to play it.


#takeareport

Oh lord. You must be the same lost who was posting these breakdowns on the boys page. Get a life creep

OMFG. Psycho YJ daddy. We all know you post on here and the same creepy level of detail you post you also say the same garbage at a winter indoor practice. Wow.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some great content in the long post and I agree with 90% of it.

The big point where I disagree is around around tournament selection.

The top tourneys (lax for the cure, Live Love Lax and a couple others) already have waitlists. If you aren't playing in these tourneys as a 7th grader, there is very little change your club will get in by the time it matters. You will see several clubs with uncompetitive middle school teams register for this reason. They know if they aren't in now, they will never get in.

That pretty leaves G8 (which is invite only) and Mid Atlantic Summer championship) as the only potential summer tourneys. This is not a small deal and will hurt any chance FLG and to a lesser extent Tradition have at retaining their top players. This is not a small deal. This is the reason you always see the same teams compile talent by 9th grade.

With all the showcases now, summer tourneys are hardly the best all end all. America Select, Nike, under armor, etc. Those matter more than club tourneys.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some great content in the long post and I agree with 90% of it.

The big point where I disagree is around around tournament selection.

The top tourneys (lax for the cure, Live Love Lax and a couple others) already have waitlists. If you aren't playing in these tourneys as a 7th grader, there is very little change your club will get in by the time it matters. You will see several clubs with uncompetitive middle school teams register for this reason. They know if they aren't in now, they will never get in.

That pretty leaves G8 (which is invite only) and Mid Atlantic Summer championship) as the only potential summer tourneys. This is not a small deal and will hurt any chance FLG and to a lesser extent Tradition have at retaining their top players. This is not a small deal. This is the reason you always see the same teams compile talent by 9th grade.

With all the showcases now, summer tourneys are hardly the best all end all. America Select, Nike, under armor, etc. Those matter more than club tourneys.

If this was a Colorado or Virginia forum, I would agree. Reality though is that there are many D1-caliber LI players who won't make those teams and need exposure. Lets also remember the politics that go into selection. Will be very few spots for girls who don't play for YJ or TG.

Also based on experience with my oldest daughter. The most recruiters I ever saw at a single game was during the YJ / SW Blue game at Lax for the cure last year. At least 50 coaches 3 deep at that game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some great content in the long post and I agree with 90% of it.

The big point where I disagree is around around tournament selection.

The top tourneys (lax for the cure, Live Love Lax and a couple others) already have waitlists. If you aren't playing in these tourneys as a 7th grader, there is very little change your club will get in by the time it matters. You will see several clubs with uncompetitive middle school teams register for this reason. They know if they aren't in now, they will never get in.

That pretty leaves G8 (which is invite only) and Mid Atlantic Summer championship) as the only potential summer tourneys. This is not a small deal and will hurt any chance FLG and to a lesser extent Tradition have at retaining their top players. This is not a small deal. This is the reason you always see the same teams compile talent by 9th grade.

With all the showcases now, summer tourneys are hardly the best all end all. America Select, Nike, under armor, etc. Those matter more than club tourneys.

Keep telling yourself that FLG dad
Tournaments are more important than these All Star team showcases, for a number of reasons.
Tournaments and showcases are equally important but for different reasons. If you’re playing on a top level team and you’re in the main rotation, tournaments provide you great exposure. If you’re on top teams and you’re riding the bench and getting limited playing time, the tournaments provide no exposure and that also holds true if you’re not in the top two brackets especially for girls. If your club team is in lower bracket in these tournaments, few if any coaches come to watch those games. On the other hand, showcases provide more exposure to those individual players because the teams are smaller coached by current college coaches and plenty of coaches attending these events.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Tournaments and showcases are equally important but for different reasons. If you’re playing on a top level team and you’re in the main rotation, tournaments provide you great exposure. If you’re on top teams and you’re riding the bench and getting limited playing time, the tournaments provide no exposure and that also holds true if you’re not in the top two brackets especially for girls. If your club team is in lower bracket in these tournaments, few if any coaches come to watch those games. On the other hand, showcases provide more exposure to those individual players because the teams are smaller coached by current college coaches and plenty of coaches attending these events.

Very well said! Identify where your daughter fits into this scenario. It’s great advice! College coaches definitely attend many of the showcases. They need to fill their rosters as well. Also, have your daughter go to specific college camps, clinics and prospect days that may be of interest. She Can “get seen” more there among less players than at a showcase.
College coaches aren’t even thinking about 2027’s. Some of these kids won’t even play in high school. Another bunch won’t want to play in college or will have picked their other sport. Let’s them be 12/13. Enjoy the game and get better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
College coaches aren’t even thinking about 2027’s. Some of these kids won’t even play in high school. Another bunch won’t want to play in college or will have picked their other sport. Let’s them be 12/13. Enjoy the game and get better.

Totally! The place to spending $s for 27s is on training and not wasting time/$s at showcase stuff! Save that for 9/10th grade. (10th grade the most important for that). Until then, train on skills and have fun playing on a team. See where your kid is at in 2 years.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
College coaches aren’t even thinking about 2027’s. Some of these kids won’t even play in high school. Another bunch won’t want to play in college or will have picked their other sport. Let’s them be 12/13. Enjoy the game and get better.

Like the old saying goes, you can't get recruited in middle school, but you can very easily get UNrecruited by what you do in middle school.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can tell everyone on here has a ton of passion for this game. But you can also tell from the threads who has never played a team sport before. There are some great posts with perspective from parents who have been through this before. They seem to resonate most about what to look for in a Team.

Those around 2027 Girls Lacrosse on Long Island are extremely fortunate. We are all treated to watching a very high level of ball. Not to mention these girls are in 7th Grade. The participation at the age is incredible from the PAL level all the way up to the amount of Club Teams we have in the area. If you are new to the area and your daughter has a passion for team sports, it is never too late. And there are really no mistakes given all of the options in the area. Just talk to families within each program and you will know what makes most sense for your daughter.

The Spring-Summer 2021/2022 Club Season is going to be a fun one. You can already feel the energy from the posts in these chats.

In order of where the Teams “ranked” on USCL.com at the end of the 2021 Summer Season. Because players and parents will say they don’t care about rankings, but there are a ton of people who can’t wait for when they get updated every week. Just another question to honestly ask your daughter and family if that means something to them and will it mean something for recruiting down the line.

#6 YELLOW JACKETS– STADLER-STADLER-GRAZIDEI (Fall 2021 #6)
Picks up another great goalie, which was already a strength of the team, and has picked up strong athletes as they always do. Stress levels seem high, but the parents want to see their daughters compete against the best of the best. And they did just that last year showing they could beat anyone when it counted in the Mid-Atlantic. You have to route for this team to do well because it highlights the quality of players we have in this area. You have to feel sorry for the coaches after reading these forums though. But that is the stress when every family expects their daughter to play at a top college program coming off this Team. For those who always ask who is North Shore Elite, they get the majority of their players from this Team and play in tournaments where it is an off weekend for Yellow Jackets. Fear the Bee and many fear battling Carol Rose’s program.

Cons: Constant stress level between parents, players, coaches, etc. When you have so many of the best players on Long Island, you are expected to not only win, but take the game to the next level. Playing time will also be an issue for some who want to play in all of the big games. But you could say that about any Club and that is why it is so important to find a Club where your daughter will play in those big moments. Regardless if they are at the top level of talent or not. That is where they will build confidence.

#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

#20 LIBERTY BLACK (Fall 2021 #27) Lost one very good middie to Yellow Jackets Stadler and the forum erupted especially after losing another top player to YJ Grazidei in 2020. Players who want to play against the best of the best are commonly lured to YJA as the best team on Long Island for 2027. Yet when you talk to families with daughters on this Team, they all seem to be incredibly happy with the coaching and the experience their daughters are getting. We have all read in the forum there seemed to be some perceived drama last season with this Team, but it sounds like people have moved on for various different reasons and there is a good vibe internally with the Team this season. Liberty Lacrosse has been around forever and some will argue they have not been the same since they lost their pipeline from Manhasset, but this is not Danielle Gallagher’s first rodeo and she has produced some incredible Liberty teams through the years. They have two of the best coaches/players in Danielle Gallagher and Amanda Johansen bringing their knowledge of the game through different lenses and different eras. It sounds like this 2027 team gets their time in both clinics and team practices with both. The starters on this Team seem to go about their business with a chip on their shoulder. Highlighted by their battle with North Shore Elite in the Championship Game of the 2021 Lacrosse by 3 Hofstra Summer Tournament, losing by a goal in the final minute and taking out Top Guns Black & Tradition in the same tournament. The Team seems to have two full time coaches with a lot of experience in the game and parents and players alike seem very happy. But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

CONS: According to the forum, the Club “has been sold to a sports aggregator”. That uncertainty is not great but with everything being anonymous in these forums, how much weight should a family place on that. But if true, families need to worry about the Club’s strongest asset in Danielle Gallagher checking out. But in a world where Clubs can make a lot of money, I guess we could all be worried about that with any Club if the price was right! Doubters will point to beatdowns this Fall against Eagle Stix, which was the #1 ranked team at the end of the 2021 season. Yellow Jackets Stadler tied that team this fall, which highlights to people the caliber of athletes at both those programs and questions whether Liberty will ever be able to compete. This team has also been knocked as a team of girls that play soccer, which gets them taking hits for missing fall tournaments like Queen of the Island because of prior soccer commitments. But some will say it is better for girls to be more well-rounded athletes and every college coach looks for the three sport athlete. However, it is important with any of these Clubs that you communicate your daughter’s dedication to each sport and match it with the Club.

#31 Yellow Jackets – Gaghan (Fall Season #12)
Don’t look now but there is a lot of energy and positivity coming out of this team in the Fall. Making a huge jump in the rankings and feeling confident about running with anyone on the Island. Doubters will point to all their better players ultimately getting nabbed by Stadler’s YJ Team, but we have already seen that with all of the other programs. While I think some parents are hoping they can run with YJ Stadler, it is going to be a lot more fun watching what they can do against FLG, Top Guns, & Liberty Black. It sets up for some battles to start the Club Season at the Spring Queen of the Island.

Cons: Turnover has been a real issue with this team, but something easily solved with a strong Spring-Summer season. You will always have to hear about “your older sister” in YJA, but for those who are strong enough to block that out, you are getting a ton of playing time in all the same tournaments that Carol Rose will get YJA into. But if the positive energy fades because of losses against Maryland teams and top Long Island teams, parents and players may look to move out of the shadow into other programs in the Top 5.

#36 Top Gun Blacks (Fall Season 2021 #21)
A ton of buzz coming out of the Shannon Smith led Top Guns Black team already this year. This team is coached by Shannon’s brother and Emma Ward, who is always swarmed at tournaments by girls of all ages. They attracted a ton of great players who wanted playing time and were confident that Top Guns would put them in all the right tournaments. Playing time in top tournaments is important and it has allowed this team to attract even more talent in the off-season. People knock them for loses like the game against Liberty Black in the Hofstra tournament last fall, but this is a different team and have high aspirations. Top Guns could see an influx of even more top players with a great season in 2022.

CONS: Parents have complained about coaching and some sideline antics, but not sure if there has been much attrition of players so it seems like noise that is common in this forum for all Clubs.

#30 Empire (Fall Season #63)
You have to LOVE the enthusiasm out of the Empire posts. Pure positivity from someone passionately believing in their Team. Likely will not compete with any of the Teams above, but for many does it even matter if their daughters are having a blast playing the game with friends. It sounds like a nice place for a lot of players on the Island. And the joy they will have if they were able to beat any of the teams above!


I hope this helps those who were new to the area or those who’s daughter might be looking for something better suited to her ability and desire. Let the debating begin. But regardless of your thoughts, everyone will agree that there is some great lacrosse ahead of us this season and we are fortunate to watch it and the girls are blessed to play it.


#takeareport
Ok what team is your daughter on.
Team is obvious if you read it.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
College coaches aren’t even thinking about 2027’s. Some of these kids won’t even play in high school. Another bunch won’t want to play in college or will have picked their other sport. Let’s them be 12/13. Enjoy the game and get better.

Like the old saying goes, you can't get recruited in middle school, but you can very easily get UNrecruited by what you do in middle school.

This is not an old saying….nobody has said this except you
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team is obvious if you read it.
So Empire
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Team is obvious if you read it.
So Empire
Not Empire guess again lady
Empire is FO REAL!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can tell everyone on here has a ton of passion for this game. But you can also tell from the threads who has never played a team sport before. There are some great posts with perspective from parents who have been through this before. They seem to resonate most about what to look for in a Team.

Those around 2027 Girls Lacrosse on Long Island are extremely fortunate. We are all treated to watching a very high level of ball. Not to mention these girls are in 7th Grade. The participation at the age is incredible from the PAL level all the way up to the amount of Club Teams we have in the area. If you are new to the area and your daughter has a passion for team sports, it is never too late. And there are really no mistakes given all of the options in the area. Just talk to families within each program and you will know what makes most sense for your daughter.

The Spring-Summer 2021/2022 Club Season is going to be a fun one. You can already feel the energy from the posts in these chats.

In order of where the Teams “ranked” on USCL.com at the end of the 2021 Summer Season. Because players and parents will say they don’t care about rankings, but there are a ton of people who can’t wait for when they get updated every week. Just another question to honestly ask your daughter and family if that means something to them and will it mean something for recruiting down the line.

#6 YELLOW JACKETS– STADLER-STADLER-GRAZIDEI (Fall 2021 #6)
Picks up another great goalie, which was already a strength of the team, and has picked up strong athletes as they always do. Stress levels seem high, but the parents want to see their daughters compete against the best of the best. And they did just that last year showing they could beat anyone when it counted in the Mid-Atlantic. You have to route for this team to do well because it highlights the quality of players we have in this area. You have to feel sorry for the coaches after reading these forums though. But that is the stress when every family expects their daughter to play at a top college program coming off this Team. For those who always ask who is North Shore Elite, they get the majority of their players from this Team and play in tournaments where it is an off weekend for Yellow Jackets. Fear the Bee and many fear battling Carol Rose’s program.

Cons: Constant stress level between parents, players, coaches, etc. When you have so many of the best players on Long Island, you are expected to not only win, but take the game to the next level. Playing time will also be an issue for some who want to play in all of the big games. But you could say that about any Club and that is why it is so important to find a Club where your daughter will play in those big moments. Regardless if they are at the top level of talent or not. That is where they will build confidence.

#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

#20 LIBERTY BLACK (Fall 2021 #27) Lost one very good middie to Yellow Jackets Stadler and the forum erupted especially after losing another top player to YJ Grazidei in 2020. Players who want to play against the best of the best are commonly lured to YJA as the best team on Long Island for 2027. Yet when you talk to families with daughters on this Team, they all seem to be incredibly happy with the coaching and the experience their daughters are getting. We have all read in the forum there seemed to be some perceived drama last season with this Team, but it sounds like people have moved on for various different reasons and there is a good vibe internally with the Team this season. Liberty Lacrosse has been around forever and some will argue they have not been the same since they lost their pipeline from Manhasset, but this is not Danielle Gallagher’s first rodeo and she has produced some incredible Liberty teams through the years. They have two of the best coaches/players in Danielle Gallagher and Amanda Johansen bringing their knowledge of the game through different lenses and different eras. It sounds like this 2027 team gets their time in both clinics and team practices with both. The starters on this Team seem to go about their business with a chip on their shoulder. Highlighted by their battle with North Shore Elite in the Championship Game of the 2021 Lacrosse by 3 Hofstra Summer Tournament, losing by a goal in the final minute and taking out Top Guns Black & Tradition in the same tournament. The Team seems to have two full time coaches with a lot of experience in the game and parents and players alike seem very happy. But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

CONS: According to the forum, the Club “has been sold to a sports aggregator”. That uncertainty is not great but with everything being anonymous in these forums, how much weight should a family place on that. But if true, families need to worry about the Club’s strongest asset in Danielle Gallagher checking out. But in a world where Clubs can make a lot of money, I guess we could all be worried about that with any Club if the price was right! Doubters will point to beatdowns this Fall against Eagle Stix, which was the #1 ranked team at the end of the 2021 season. Yellow Jackets Stadler tied that team this fall, which highlights to people the caliber of athletes at both those programs and questions whether Liberty will ever be able to compete. This team has also been knocked as a team of girls that play soccer, which gets them taking hits for missing fall tournaments like Queen of the Island because of prior soccer commitments. But some will say it is better for girls to be more well-rounded athletes and every college coach looks for the three sport athlete. However, it is important with any of these Clubs that you communicate your daughter’s dedication to each sport and match it with the Club.

#31 Yellow Jackets – Gaghan (Fall Season #12)
Don’t look now but there is a lot of energy and positivity coming out of this team in the Fall. Making a huge jump in the rankings and feeling confident about running with anyone on the Island. Doubters will point to all their better players ultimately getting nabbed by Stadler’s YJ Team, but we have already seen that with all of the other programs. While I think some parents are hoping they can run with YJ Stadler, it is going to be a lot more fun watching what they can do against FLG, Top Guns, & Liberty Black. It sets up for some battles to start the Club Season at the Spring Queen of the Island.

Cons: Turnover has been a real issue with this team, but something easily solved with a strong Spring-Summer season. You will always have to hear about “your older sister” in YJA, but for those who are strong enough to block that out, you are getting a ton of playing time in all the same tournaments that Carol Rose will get YJA into. But if the positive energy fades because of losses against Maryland teams and top Long Island teams, parents and players may look to move out of the shadow into other programs in the Top 5.

#36 Top Gun Blacks (Fall Season 2021 #21)
A ton of buzz coming out of the Shannon Smith led Top Guns Black team already this year. This team is coached by Shannon’s brother and Emma Ward, who is always swarmed at tournaments by girls of all ages. They attracted a ton of great players who wanted playing time and were confident that Top Guns would put them in all the right tournaments. Playing time in top tournaments is important and it has allowed this team to attract even more talent in the off-season. People knock them for loses like the game against Liberty Black in the Hofstra tournament last fall, but this is a different team and have high aspirations. Top Guns could see an influx of even more top players with a great season in 2022.

CONS: Parents have complained about coaching and some sideline antics, but not sure if there has been much attrition of players so it seems like noise that is common in this forum for all Clubs.

#30 Empire (Fall Season #63)
You have to LOVE the enthusiasm out of the Empire posts. Pure positivity from someone passionately believing in their Team. Likely will not compete with any of the Teams above, but for many does it even matter if their daughters are having a blast playing the game with friends. It sounds like a nice place for a lot of players on the Island. And the joy they will have if they were able to beat any of the teams above!


I hope this helps those who were new to the area or those who’s daughter might be looking for something better suited to her ability and desire. Let the debating begin. But regardless of your thoughts, everyone will agree that there is some great lacrosse ahead of us this season and we are fortunate to watch it and the girls are blessed to play it.


#takeareport
Ok what team is your daughter on.
Thanks for the history lesson liberty dad
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

LIBERTY

But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

Here in lies the problem with Liberty. They aren't playing in top tournaments this summer and the talent flow won't stop until they do. They lost their best player in the offseason to YJ, who likely won't come close to seeing the field in a competitive game without a position change.

Here is their summer schedule for their A team.

Live Love Lax
Summer Bolt
Summer Genesis Origins
Top Threat



Live Love Lax is the only A tourney. Origins could be decent if they placed in the A bracket (which is unlikely). The other two tourneys are B/C tourneys at best.


Compare to Top Guns who is playing

Live Love Lax
Summer Genesis Origins
Lax For the Cure
MD Cup
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

LIBERTY

But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

Here in lies the problem with Liberty. They aren't playing in top tournaments this summer and the talent flow won't stop until they do. They lost their best player in the offseason to YJ, who likely won't come close to seeing the field in a competitive game without a position change.

Here is their summer schedule for their A team.

Live Love Lax
Summer Bolt
Summer Genesis Origins
Top Threat



Live Love Lax is the only A tourney. Origins could be decent if they placed in the A bracket (which is unlikely). The other two tourneys are B/C tourneys at best.


Compare to Top Guns who is playing

Live Love Lax
Summer Genesis Origins
Lax For the Cure
MD Cup


Summer Genesis Origins is an A Tournament, M&D, Aces, MDU, Prime Time all played in it last year, a win against any of those teams would go a long way for them.
Empire has a lot of energy too!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire has a lot of energy too!!!
I wish my wife had Empires energy
#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

Lax by the sea
Live Love Lax
Maryland Cup
Northern Rise

Team got better, tourneys got better.
Empire loves Northern Rise. Great tourney.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

Lax by the sea
Live Love Lax
Maryland Cup
Northern Rise

Team got better, tourneys got better.
Please explain how the team got better.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

Lax by the sea
Live Love Lax
Maryland Cup
Northern Rise

Team got better, tourneys got better.

They did??
The new players that they picked up especially the 2 that left the YJ organization far surpass and makeup any of the girls who left their team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The new players that they picked up especially the 2 that left the YJ organization far surpass and makeup any of the girls who left their team.
Just curious are you a new parent on the team or a returning parent.
Ha. Wow. People have lost their minds.
Neither but my daughter plays on the Blue Devils.
Wow. 2027 girls is on par with 2023 and 2025 for looney parents. I think it must be the *odd* years where they come out.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the girls who left their team.

and barely play for YJ
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. 2027 girls is on par with 2023 and 2025 for looney parents. I think it must be the *odd* years where they come out.

Same parents! Multiple girls that play!
And the parents that post non stop
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And the parents that post non stop

Does anyone know who is playing in Cantiague spring league other than YJ?
Can’t wait for PAL to start. Games are electric!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The new players that they picked up especially the 2 that left the YJ organization far surpass and makeup any of the girls who left their team.
Just curious are you a new parent on the team or a returning parent.

And the little attacker on bench last year is better than one that left
Jesters with the impressive game last night. Another team on the way up.
Updated results - last night YJA destroyed Gaghan and FLG Navy almost lost to Jesters Black. Mind you that FLG had only 2 subs they almost blew game down the stretch and got lucky that time ran out. Just saying…….
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Jesters with the impressive game last night. Another team on the way up.

🤣 who did they play. Jesters aren’t even relevant. Maybe you should be friends with the Empire dad.
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Jesters with the impressive game last night. Another team on the way up.
Jesters stock went way up, YJB stock way down
FLG didn't almost lose, but the game was competitive.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters with the impressive game last night. Another team on the way up.
Jesters stock went way up, YJB stock way down

You are all tools. Thanks for the updated rankings as of March 7th
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters with the impressive game last night. Another team on the way up.
Jesters stock went way up, YJB stock way down

Jesters 27 are on the up and up. They weren’t that great in the past but have stepped up this year.
You rang???????? Empire is going to dominate this year!!!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters with the impressive game last night. Another team on the way up.
Jesters stock went way up, YJB stock way down

Jesters 27 are on the up and up. They weren’t that great in the past but have stepped up this year.

Depends on what you mean up and up. They are probably a top 35-40 national team instead of 60 so there is improvement. Do they have a realistic chance to beat any legit A team? (YJ A, FLG, even Top Guns). Not yet.
Top Guns? Really? Let's see by the end of the summer.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Updated results - last night YJA destroyed Gaghan and FLG Navy almost lost to Jesters Black. Mind you that FLG had only 2 subs they almost blew game down the stretch and got lucky that time ran out. Just saying…….

@ Jester's mom. What you can take from this is that your girls never gave up. Down 9-3 with 5 minutes left, they kept fighting. But I would stop short of saying that FLG got lucky.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Updated results - last night YJA destroyed Gaghan and FLG Navy almost lost to Jesters Black. Mind you that FLG had only 2 subs they almost blew game down the stretch and got lucky that time ran out. Just saying…….

@ Jester's mom. What you can take from this is that your girls never gave up. Down 9-3 with 5 minutes left, they kept fighting. But I would stop short of saying that FLG got lucky.

@FLG dad. What you can take from this is your team isn't what it once was.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Updated results - last night YJA destroyed Gaghan and FLG Navy almost lost to Jesters Black. Mind you that FLG had only 2 subs they almost blew game down the stretch and got lucky that time ran out. Just saying…….

Are these results posted anywhere? not on tourney machine
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Updated results - last night YJA destroyed Gaghan and FLG Navy almost lost to Jesters Black. Mind you that FLG had only 2 subs they almost blew game down the stretch and got lucky that time ran out. Just saying…….

@ Jester's mom. What you can take from this is that your girls never gave up. Down 9-3 with 5 minutes left, they kept fighting. But I would stop short of saying that FLG got lucky.

@FLG dad. What you can take from this is your team isn't what it once was.

i didnt see the 70s guy on the sideline

did they leave the team? maybe he just ODd
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters with the impressive game last night. Another team on the way up.
Jesters stock went way up, YJB stock way down

YJB will still roll them whenever they play
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Updated results - last night YJA destroyed Gaghan and FLG Navy almost lost to Jesters Black. Mind you that FLG had only 2 subs they almost blew game down the stretch and got lucky that time ran out. Just saying…….

Are these results posted anywhere? not on tourney machine

I’m surprised we aren’t getting the gripping play by play action recorded on LILJ
results on TSIC-Events app (another tourney machine type app)
The only constant which remains is that YJA is revving it up and it’s still not Spring!
No one is close to YJA on LI, yet... gap widens now that they have a few of FLGs better players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Updated results - last night YJA destroyed Gaghan and FLG Navy almost lost to Jesters Black. Mind you that FLG had only 2 subs they almost blew game down the stretch and got lucky that time ran out. Just saying…….

Are these results posted anywhere? not on tourney machine

I’m surprised we aren’t getting the gripping play by play action recorded on LILJ

not surprised its not their event.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No one is close to YJA on LI, yet... gap widens now that they have a few of FLGs better players.

Have they picked up any more since fall? I agree the goalie was a major pickup from last year.
YJA hasn’t picked up any new players from any team nor do they need to. No LI team will get close to them. Fall ball is over and soon so will the chatter here.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA hasn’t picked up any new players from any team nor do they need to. No LI team will get close to them. Fall ball is over and soon so will the chatter here.

not sure anyone ever thought they would. Question is how do they stack up against the best in the Country.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA hasn’t picked up any new players from any team nor do they need to. No LI team will get close to them. Fall ball is over and soon so will the chatter here.
Oooh very ominous….
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA hasn’t picked up any new players from any team nor do they need to. No LI team will get close to them. Fall ball is over and soon so will the chatter here.
Oooh very ominous….

Traditions beat YJA
Reality is that YJA won't play a competitive game in their age group until Lax by the Sea where they will likely play Heros twice. I know many parents wanted to play NGLL championship instead of queen of the hills, but as you need YJ and Robsinson Sports don't play well together.

Anything up until then is pretty much a practice. Maybe a team will stay within 4-5 goals but will likely be a results of an off-day or given more PT to backups.
Truly sad or remarkable that YJ A has to travel several states just to get some comp. Rest of talent on LI is diluted amongst the many programs.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA hasn’t picked up any new players from any team nor do they need to. No LI team will get close to them. Fall ball is over and soon so will the chatter here.
Oooh very ominous….

Traditions beat YJA

What are you talking about? Traditions 27 lost to YJA 28 by 1 pt.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Truly sad or remarkable that YJ A has to travel several states just to get some comp. Rest of talent on LI is diluted amongst the many programs.
Tied Tradition at Live Love Lax in November. Lost to FLG BY 1. I guess there is some competition around here.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Truly sad or remarkable that YJ A has to travel several states just to get some comp. Rest of talent on LI is diluted amongst the many programs.
Tied Tradition at Live Love Lax in November. Lost to FLG BY 1. I guess there is some competition around here.
Sorry beat FLG by one in an extremely competitive game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Truly sad or remarkable that YJ A has to travel several states just to get some comp. Rest of talent on LI is diluted amongst the many programs.

I think on the whole the talent level at the 27 level is lower than the previous few classes on LI, especially the 26s. This is not to say that they aren't great players on YJA and other top teams who will play D-1. There clearly are.

However, when you compare Top Guns Black and Jesters Black or even YJB their teams at the age level from the previous 2 years, it isn't close. For me this shows a lack of depth
Terrible talent. Empire is going to Dominate 2022!!!!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Truly sad or remarkable that YJ A has to travel several states just to get some comp. Rest of talent on LI is diluted amongst the many programs.

I think on the whole the talent level at the 27 level is lower than the previous few classes on LI, especially the 26s. This is not to say that they aren't great players on YJA and other top teams who will play D-1. There clearly are.

However, when you compare Top Guns Black and Jesters Black or even YJB their teams at the age level from the previous 2 years, it isn't close. For me this shows a lack of depth

This.

Most interesting game was LI Elite spring league will be YJB vs. YJ 28A. Heard the 28s beat them in a scrimmage in the fall. If they win, or even if it is a very competitive game, that says a ton about the depth of this class.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Truly sad or remarkable that YJ A has to travel several states just to get some comp. Rest of talent on LI is diluted amongst the many programs.
Tied Tradition at Live Love Lax in November. Lost to FLG BY 1. I guess there is some competition around here.
Sorry beat FLG by one in an extremely competitive game.

Game was competitive cause yj played everybody
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Truly sad or remarkable that YJ A has to travel several states just to get some comp. Rest of talent on LI is diluted amongst the many programs.
Tied Tradition at Live Love Lax in November. Lost to FLG BY 1. I guess there is some competition around here.
Sorry beat FLG by one in an extremely competitive game.

Game was competitive cause yj played everybody

Another example of the weakness in the 27 class. YJA's starters and 1 or 2 back-ups are outstanding. However, the back half of that lineup is nowhere near the quality of past 7th grade teams. Will be curious to see if top players from other programs try out for them next year.
That’s an odd response. If YJ A is such a dominant team their prime bench and end of the roster players should be able to come in and continue the dominant play as they would be starters on every other club on LI. Some of the other programs, including FLG Navy don’t have the depth on the sidelines as you will find on all of the YJ teams so they have no choice but to play whomever is available and in shape at any given tournament.
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That’s an odd response. If YJ A is such a dominant team their prime bench and end of the roster players should be able to come in and continue the dominant play as they would be starters on every other club on LI. Some of the other programs, including FLG Navy don’t have the depth on the sidelines as you will find on all of the YJ teams so they have no choice but to play whomever is available and in shape at any given tournament.

The point is the first 12-14 players on YJA are by far the class of the island. Really no difference between YJA Bench, TG starters, FLG starters, Jesters starters or any other team on the island.

I think the only other metro NYC team which could challenge them is Prime Time. However, prime time tends to start slow in the summer as a result of not playing as a unit in the spring.
Pretty comical response. There are several players scattered all over the other clubs on LI who are equal or much better than several YJA starters let alone their bench players. They just prefer to play on teams wit their friends and no drama.
So what does all of this mean for movement after this season? Top players from Top Guns, Jesters, Liberty have to be looking to move to more competitive teams. The Liberty especially. They aren’t even in the same league as these teams but have a few potentially strong girls.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what does all of this mean for movement after this season? Top players from Top Guns, Jesters, Liberty have to be looking to move to more competitive teams. The Liberty especially. They aren’t even in the same league as these teams but have a few potentially strong girls.

No it doesn’t mean that at all…many of us are just absolutely fine not being part of the YJ drama machine. To say that the top players don’t exist outside of the top 12-14 girls on YJA is wildly uninformed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what does all of this mean for movement after this season? Top players from Top Guns, Jesters, Liberty have to be looking to move to more competitive teams. The Liberty especially. They aren’t even in the same league as these teams but have a few potentially strong girls.

No it doesn’t mean that at all…many of us are just absolutely fine not being part of the YJ drama machine. To say that the top players don’t exist outside of the top 12-14 girls on YJA is wildly uninformed.

I didn’t say they don’t exist. I am wondering what happens to them. You want to be playing on a top team to be seen as they get older.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what does all of this mean for movement after this season? Top players from Top Guns, Jesters, Liberty have to be looking to move to more competitive teams. The Liberty especially. They aren’t even in the same league as these teams but have a few potentially strong girls.

No it doesn’t mean that at all…many of us are just absolutely fine not being part of the YJ drama machine. To say that the top players don’t exist outside of the top 12-14 girls on YJA is wildly uninformed.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what does all of this mean for movement after this season? Top players from Top Guns, Jesters, Liberty have to be looking to move to more competitive teams. The Liberty especially. They aren’t even in the same league as these teams but have a few potentially strong girls.

No it doesn’t mean that at all…many of us are just absolutely fine not being part of the YJ drama machine. To say that the top players don’t exist outside of the top 12-14 girls on YJA is wildly uninformed.

There are top players outside of YJA. But the reality is that FLG has about 5, TG and Jesters have about 3 and the rest don't have more than 2.

Will be interesting to see what happens. TGs likes to bring in out of town players to prop up teams and I expect to see some of that here, especially with the app to be coached by Emma Ward.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what does all of this mean for movement after this season? Top players from Top Guns, Jesters, Liberty have to be looking to move to more competitive teams. The Liberty especially. They aren’t even in the same league as these teams but have a few potentially strong girls.

No it doesn’t mean that at all…many of us are just absolutely fine not being part of the YJ drama machine. To say that the top players don’t exist outside of the top 12-14 girls on YJA is wildly uninformed.

I didn’t say they don’t exist. I am wondering what happens to them. You want to be playing on a top team to be seen as they get older.

Take a look at the latest recruiting class (2023’s)….get out of your YJ bubble. Congrats if your daughter rides the pine on YJA - it’s all meaningless in a few years and nobody will remember where your team was ranked except you dad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Truly sad or remarkable that YJ A has to travel several states just to get some comp. Rest of talent on LI is diluted amongst the many programs.

I think on the whole the talent level at the 27 level is lower than the previous few classes on LI, especially the 26s. This is not to say that they aren't great players on YJA and other top teams who will play D-1. There clearly are.

However, when you compare Top Guns Black and Jesters Black or even YJB their teams at the age level from the previous 2 years, it isn't close. For me this shows a lack of depth

This.

Most interesting game was LI Elite spring league will be YJB vs. YJ 28A. Heard the 28s beat them in a scrimmage in the fall. If they win, or even if it is a very competitive game, that says a ton about the depth of this class.


Well it was a 5-5 tie in a bit of a cold, ugly, slugfest. 28s arguably had the better of play but got pushed around a bit. This 28 team is really good. Can't wait to see what they do this summer against Heros and M&D
Fair analysis.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what does all of this mean for movement after this season? Top players from Top Guns, Jesters, Liberty have to be looking to move to more competitive teams. The Liberty especially. They aren’t even in the same league as these teams but have a few potentially strong girls.

No it doesn’t mean that at all…many of us are just absolutely fine not being part of the YJ drama machine. To say that the top players don’t exist outside of the top 12-14 girls on YJA is wildly uninformed.

I didn’t say they don’t exist. I am wondering what happens to them. You want to be playing on a top team to be seen as they get older.

Take a look at the latest recruiting class (2023’s)….get out of your YJ bubble. Congrats if your daughter rides the pine on YJA - it’s all meaningless in a few years and nobody will remember where your team was ranked except you dad.

My kid doesn’t play for YJ. She plays Liberty and the team is definitely not going in the right direction. My question was with so much talent on other teams it doesn’t leave room for much movement from other teams to get in better teams. I am not hung up on what team my kid plays for per se but lesser teams aren’t getting put into the best tourneys and won’t get as many looks from colleges. You do sound a little bitter over the YJ success. You can try and convince yourself that whatever team your kid is on will take them somewhere. That isn’t always the case. Training is always going to be better where the top teams are. And I mean that only the top teams are getting that attention. The YJ B and C team definitely doesn’t get as much attention as the A team.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what does all of this mean for movement after this season? Top players from Top Guns, Jesters, Liberty have to be looking to move to more competitive teams. The Liberty especially. They aren’t even in the same league as these teams but have a few potentially strong girls.

No it doesn’t mean that at all…many of us are just absolutely fine not being part of the YJ drama machine. To say that the top players don’t exist outside of the top 12-14 girls on YJA is wildly uninformed.

I didn’t say they don’t exist. I am wondering what happens to them. You want to be playing on a top team to be seen as they get older.

Yes, but the key word is PLAYING. You don't want to jump teams, burn a bridge only to have your daughter standing on the sidelines in key games.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So what does all of this mean for movement after this season? Top players from Top Guns, Jesters, Liberty have to be looking to move to more competitive teams. The Liberty especially. They aren’t even in the same league as these teams but have a few potentially strong girls.

No it doesn’t mean that at all…many of us are just absolutely fine not being part of the YJ drama machine. To say that the top players don’t exist outside of the top 12-14 girls on YJA is wildly uninformed.

I didn’t say they don’t exist. I am wondering what happens to them. You want to be playing on a top team to be seen as they get older.

Take a look at the latest recruiting class (2023’s)….get out of your YJ bubble. Congrats if your daughter rides the pine on YJA - it’s all meaningless in a few years and nobody will remember where your team was ranked except you dad.

My kid doesn’t play for YJ. She plays Liberty and the team is definitely not going in the right direction. My question was with so much talent on other teams it doesn’t leave room for much movement from other teams to get in better teams. I am not hung up on what team my kid plays for per se but lesser teams aren’t getting put into the best tourneys and won’t get as many looks from colleges. You do sound a little bitter over the YJ success. You can try and convince yourself that whatever team your kid is on will take them somewhere. That isn’t always the case. Training is always going to be better where the top teams are. And I mean that only the top teams are getting that attention. The YJ B and C team definitely doesn’t get as much attention as the A team.

Obviously every age group is a bit different. However in other years, besides YJ, the top talents from other clubs tend to gravitate to Jesters and TG, which tend to get better over time.
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So what does all of this mean for movement after this season? Top players from Top Guns, Jesters, Liberty have to be looking to move to more competitive teams. The Liberty especially. They aren’t even in the same league as these teams but have a few potentially strong girls.

No it doesn’t mean that at all…many of us are just absolutely fine not being part of the YJ drama machine. To say that the top players don’t exist outside of the top 12-14 girls on YJA is wildly uninformed.

I didn’t say they don’t exist. I am wondering what happens to them. You want to be playing on a top team to be seen as they get older.

Take a look at the latest recruiting class (2023’s)….get out of your YJ bubble. Congrats if your daughter rides the pine on YJA - it’s all meaningless in a few years and nobody will remember where your team was ranked except you dad.

My kid doesn’t play for YJ. She plays Liberty and the team is definitely not going in the right direction. My question was with so much talent on other teams it doesn’t leave room for much movement from other teams to get in better teams. I am not hung up on what team my kid plays for per se but lesser teams aren’t getting put into the best tourneys and won’t get as many looks from colleges. You do sound a little bitter over the YJ success. You can try and convince yourself that whatever team your kid is on will take them somewhere. That isn’t always the case. Training is always going to be better where the top teams are. And I mean that only the top teams are getting that attention. The YJ B and C team definitely doesn’t get as much attention as the A team.

Obviously every age group is a bit different. However in other years, besides YJ, the top talents from other clubs tend to gravitate to Jesters and TG, which tend to get better over time.

You forget tradition is starting to pull some better kids too
I thought Tradition was a GC only team
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I thought Tradition was a GC only team

they are
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought Tradition was a GC only team

they are

Yes but they have taken the strong gc kids who would usually be on other teams.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought Tradition was a GC only team

they are

Yes but they have taken the strong gc kids who would usually be on other teams.

yes and no. remember many of their players dual roster on other LI clubs.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought Tradition was a GC only team

they are

Yes but they have taken the strong gc kids who would usually be on other teams.

yes and no. remember many of their players dual roster on other LI clubs.

i don't think they do
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought Tradition was a GC only team

they are

Yes but they have taken the strong gc kids who would usually be on other teams.

yes and no. remember many of their players dual roster on other LI clubs.

no they don't - and at this level dual rostering on any legitimate club would be impossible anyway
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought Tradition was a GC only team

they are

Yes but they have taken the strong gc kids who would usually be on other teams.

yes and no. remember many of their players dual roster on other LI clubs.

no they don't - and at this level dual rostering on any legitimate club would be impossible anyway


Can't confirm if its is going on now, but have definitely been done in the past (2 years ago) , when tradition didn't play a full fall and summer schedule. To be fair, kids were dual rostering on lower level clubs like Legacy and Empire.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought Tradition was a GC only team

they are

Yes but they have taken the strong gc kids who would usually be on other teams.

yes and no. remember many of their players dual roster on other LI clubs.

no they don't - and at this level dual rostering on any legitimate club would be impossible anyway


Can't confirm if its is going on now, but have definitely been done in the past (2 years ago) , when tradition didn't play a full fall and summer schedule. To be fair, kids were dual rostering on lower level clubs like Legacy and Empire.

Many clubs have created a no double rostering rule now
Very quiet here lately. Everyone getting ready for PAL??? Can’t wait.
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Very quiet here lately. Everyone getting ready for PAL??? Can’t wait.

I think all the FLG parents are quiet after last sunday
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very quiet here lately. Everyone getting ready for PAL??? Can’t wait.

I think all the FLG parents are quiet after last sunday

What happened last sunday?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Very quiet here lately. Everyone getting ready for PAL??? Can’t wait.

I think all the FLG parents are quiet after last sunday

What happened last sunday?

got smoked by YJA when those games used to always be competitive. Guess that answers what direction FLG is headed....
I truly have to know what your day / life looks like that you bash 12 and 13 year old girls lacrosse. Please. Tell me. I seriously have to know what occupies your days and nights. Do tell. Do you seriously think this is healthy for you to be commenting like that? I have to know. Please for the love of god tell us how bad your life is.
No Drama at Empire. Drama free zone!
“Got smoked”? That’s laughable especially when their best 2 way player and one of the best on the Island wasn’t even there.
Spring League...YJA cruising, Jesters lost 8-7 to Tradition, then beat YJB 8-7
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Spring League...YJA cruising, Jesters lost 8-7 to Tradition, then beat YJB 8-7

Where are these scores posted?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Spring League...YJA cruising, Jesters lost 8-7 to Tradition, then beat YJB 8-7

Where are these scores posted?

TSIC app
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Spring League...YJA cruising, Jesters lost 8-7 to Tradition, then beat YJB 8-7

Just curious how much is YJA playing its starters? Feels like FLG was the only spring league game that will be even remotely competitive.
YJ was missing multiple starters for the FLG game. Played everyone about equal time.
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YJ was missing multiple starters for the FLG game. Played everyone about equal time.


Have to keep the YJ bench happy until June. Then they will become cheer leaders
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ was missing multiple starters for the FLG game. Played everyone about equal time.


Have to keep the YJ bench happy until June. Then they will become cheer leaders

YJ usually plays 15-16 girls in competitive full length games in the summer, which is more players than a lot of other top teams.
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Spring League...YJA cruising, Jesters lost 8-7 to Tradition, then beat YJB 8-7
Jesters are struggling, hopefully they have a great spring.
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YJ was missing multiple starters for the FLG game. Played everyone about equal time.


Have to keep the YJ bench happy until June. Then they will become cheer leaders

YJ usually plays 15-16 girls in competitive full length games in the summer, which is more players than a lot of other top teams.


Lol, no they don't. Come find me on Sunday night newbie and I will explain it to you.
Struggling? Far from it.
Curious if anyone went to AU Futures tryouts yesterday? How was competition level? How many girls were there?
Question : Has anyone gone to the games at BC lately?. How is the parking situation and how early do you need to get there? The information online seem to relate to football games. Looking to go during spring break. Any tips are appreciated.
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Question : Has anyone gone to the games at BC lately?. How is the parking situation and how early do you need to get there? The information online seem to relate to football games. Looking to go during spring break. Any tips are appreciated.


We always park in commonwealth avenue garage and never have issues. Not the closest to the field (12 minute walk) but in the center of campus and easier to get out of after the game.
Any recommendations for a good club team! Looking into making a switch at the end of the summer.
Drama free!!!!!! Mean Green Wrecking Machine
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Any recommendations for a good club team! Looking into making a switch at the end of the summer.

Are you new here? Go back a few pages. YJ and FLG and the. A huge drop off to everyone else.

That said what are you looking for in a club? Where does she play now and why are you leaving? There are lots of clubs at this age and a fit for everyone.
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Curious if anyone went to AU Futures tryouts yesterday? How was competition level? How many girls were there?

Stay away from the AU Futures. There last year with my older daughter and was absolutely worthless.
Someone’s kid didn’t make the AU team…
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Someone’s kid didn’t make the AU team…

Would be shocked by that. Don't even think there were 18 27s at the tryout.
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Someone’s kid didn’t make the AU team…

Yep. She didn’t make it. I was lying that we were there last year. You got me.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone’s kid didn’t make the AU team…

Would be shocked by that. Don't even think there were 18 27s at the tryout.

That would be because the 2025s and 2024s that went last year realized it was a total money grab. No coaching whatsoever. Good photo ops with the AU players. That’s about it. And they came back and told their clubs that.

But can’t give your opinion on this site without the usual sarcastic responses by the same keyboard warriors.
Keyboard god…thank you very much!
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone’s kid didn’t make the AU team…

Would be shocked by that. Don't even think there were 18 27s at the tryout.

That would be because the 2025s and 2024s that went last year realized it was a total money grab. No coaching whatsoever. Good photo ops with the AU players. That’s about it. And they came back and told their clubs that.

But can’t give your opinion on this site without the usual sarcastic responses by the same keyboard warriors.


By looking at the girls online who signed up, looks like about 1/3 TG, 1/3 YJ and one third girls who my daughter didn't recognize except for the star of Liberty.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone’s kid didn’t make the AU team…

Would be shocked by that. Don't even think there were 18 27s at the tryout.

That would be because the 2025s and 2024s that went last year realized it was a total money grab. No coaching whatsoever. Good photo ops with the AU players. That’s about it. And they came back and told their clubs that.

But can’t give your opinion on this site without the usual sarcastic responses by the same keyboard warriors.


By looking at the girls online who signed up, looks like about 1/3 TG, 1/3 YJ and one third girls who my daughter didn't recognize except for the star of Liberty.

Where can you see who signed up?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Someone’s kid didn’t make the AU team…

Would be shocked by that. Don't even think there were 18 27s at the tryout.

That would be because the 2025s and 2024s that went last year realized it was a total money grab. No coaching whatsoever. Good photo ops with the AU players. That’s about it. And they came back and told their clubs that.

But can’t give your opinion on this site without the usual sarcastic responses by the same keyboard warriors.


By looking at the girls online who signed up, looks like about 1/3 TG, 1/3 YJ and one third girls who my daughter didn't recognize except for the star of Liberty.

Where can you see who signed up?

After you sign up you are placed on the NY team in leagueapps and you can see other players.
Does anyone know anything about the LILJ Long Island Games. Is that a money grab?
It's all a money grab. Welcome to the stink
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Does anyone know anything about the LILJ Long Island Games. Is that a money grab?


Yes. its a way LILJ encourages kids to attends its clinics. It nominates the "best" players to play in this "select" tourney.
anyone know who was coaching NS Elite this weekend? Offense looked good, much better than the YJ offense that 2/3 of the team plays on.
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Any recommendations for a good club team! Looking into making a switch at the end of the summer.

We're very happy with Legacy. The 2027 coach is excellent. Lots of practices. We have room to grow.

Hope that helps.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any recommendations for a good club team! Looking into making a switch at the end of the summer.

We're very happy with Legacy. The 2027 coach is excellent. Lots of practices. We have room to grow.

Hope that helps.

Legacy has always been great at player development. Challenge is getting their top players to stay
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any recommendations for a good club team! Looking into making a switch at the end of the summer.

We're very happy with Legacy. The 2027 coach is excellent. Lots of practices. We have room to grow.

Hope that helps.

Legacy has always been great at player development. Challenge is getting their top players to stay

Agreed. But I think that has been trending downward these past few years with the younger teams. With 2027 specifically, I don't think it will be an issue. The Bayport assistant coach took over the team in the late fall and is super competitive. I think he'll do a good job of keeping the top tier parents and players happy.
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Does anyone know anything about the LILJ Long Island Games. Is that a money grab?

So how does it work? Your kid gets selected and you pay to play against other kids who were selected? How many kids/teams at each age level?
Your kid gets nominated. Most say yes, but with saying yes you are also paying more money to play into something else. It doesn't really matter, yet or at least at this age. It's kind of political, kids picked from all teams to keep all clubs happy, not necessarily the best players.

If you really don't know about travel, talk to the local parents in your town. See who plays where. If you are planning on starting travel now (7th going to 8th) it's going to to start getting a bit crazy. Parents are nuts. Find a club that is good for your kid.....or just get your kid private lessons and do lots of wall ball. If she can catch and throw very well, she'll play. There are way more school teams than travel teams, so the talent level really drops in school.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any recommendations for a good club team! Looking into making a switch at the end of the summer.

We're very happy with Legacy. The 2027 coach is excellent. Lots of practices. We have room to grow.

Hope that helps.

Legacy has always been great at player development. Challenge is getting their top players to stay

Agreed. But I think that has been trending downward these past few years with the younger teams. With 2027 specifically, I don't think it will be an issue. The Bayport assistant coach took over the team in the late fall and is super competitive. I think he'll do a good job of keeping the top tier parents and players happy.

Where does Legacy practice?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any recommendations for a good club team! Looking into making a switch at the end of the summer.

We're very happy with Legacy. The 2027 coach is excellent. Lots of practices. We have room to grow.

Hope that helps.

Legacy has always been great at player development. Challenge is getting their top players to stay

Agreed. But I think that has been trending downward these past few years with the younger teams. With 2027 specifically, I don't think it will be an issue. The Bayport assistant coach took over the team in the late fall and is super competitive. I think he'll do a good job of keeping the top tier parents and players happy.

Where does Legacy practice?

Varies a bit, but mostly fields in/around East Islip, Bay Shore
Does legacy only have 1 27 team now? Saw they are only entering white (B team i think) into Queen of the Island.
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Does legacy only have 1 27 team now? Saw they are only entering white (B team i think) into Queen of the Island.

Two teams. Blue and White. The blue team is doing all their tournaments off LI 🥲

Blue practices at the East Islip Marina and Bayport HS. I do not know where the white team practices but most teams practice at the marina.
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Does legacy only have 1 27 team now? Saw they are only entering white (B team i think) into Queen of the Island.

Two teams. Blue and White. The blue team is doing all their tournaments off LI 🥲

Blue practices at the East Islip Marina and Bayport HS. I do not know where the white team practices but most teams practice at the marina.

Why do all the good A teams only play off of LI when there are great A teams on LI. Couldn’t there be a compromise like half on LI, half off?
I think some of these teams coaches don’t want to play the other teams.
There’s not enough good competitive teams to just play on Long Island. Top teams need to travel. Even the Maryland teams will travel.
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There’s not enough good competitive teams to just play on Long Island. Top teams need to travel. Even the Maryland teams will travel.

Queen of the Island is this weekend. Both YJ teams will dominate.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There’s not enough good competitive teams to just play on Long Island. Top teams need to travel. Even the Maryland teams will travel.

Queen of the Island is this weekend. Both YJ teams will dominate.

Both?? Ugh here we go again
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There’s not enough good competitive teams to just play on Long Island. Top teams need to travel. Even the Maryland teams will travel.

Queen of the Island is this weekend. Both YJ teams will dominate.

somebody warm up cold takes exposed
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
There’s not enough good competitive teams to just play on Long Island. Top teams need to travel. Even the Maryland teams will travel.

Queen of the Island is this weekend. Both YJ teams will dominate.

Law of contrapositives states differently for the Gaghan squad.

If FLG beat Liberty Black then FLG is better.
If FLG beat Tradition then FLG is better.
If Tradition beat Gaghan then Tradition is better.
Therefore there is a high likelihood that Gaghan gets throttled by any team in the field.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There’s not enough good competitive teams to just play on Long Island. Top teams need to travel. Even the Maryland teams will travel.

Queen of the Island is this weekend. Both YJ teams will dominate.

Law of contrapositives states differently for the Gaghan squad.

If FLG beat Liberty Black then FLG is better.
If FLG beat Tradition then FLG is better.
If Tradition beat Gaghan then Tradition is better.
Therefore there is a high likelihood that Gaghan gets throttled by any team in the field.

By the way, Tradition also beat Stadler too.
It'll be
1. Stadler
2. Gaghan
3. FLG
4. Tradition
5. Liberty
Tradition didn’t beat Stadler
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There’s not enough good competitive teams to just play on Long Island. Top teams need to travel. Even the Maryland teams will travel.

Queen of the Island is this weekend. Both YJ teams will dominate.

Law of contrapositives states differently for the Gaghan squad.

If FLG beat Liberty Black then FLG is better.
If FLG beat Tradition then FLG is better.
If Tradition beat Gaghan then Tradition is better.
Therefore there is a high likelihood that Gaghan gets throttled by any team in the field.

By the way, Tradition also beat Stadler too.
It'll be
1. Stadler
2. Gaghan
3. FLG
4. Tradition
5. Liberty

Tradition did not beat YJA but they did tie them....
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There’s not enough good competitive teams to just play on Long Island. Top teams need to travel. Even the Maryland teams will travel.

Queen of the Island is this weekend. Both YJ teams will dominate.

Law of contrapositives states differently for the Gaghan squad.

If FLG beat Liberty Black then FLG is better.
If FLG beat Tradition then FLG is better.
If Tradition beat Gaghan then Tradition is better.
Therefore there is a high likelihood that Gaghan gets throttled by any team in the field.

By the way, Tradition also beat Stadler too.
It'll be
1. Stadler
2. Gaghan
3. FLG
4. Tradition
5. Liberty

Tradition did not beat YJA but they did tie them....

FLG beat Gaghan by 10 In The Spring league and has beaten Tradition every time they have played.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There’s not enough good competitive teams to just play on Long Island. Top teams need to travel. Even the Maryland teams will travel.

Queen of the Island is this weekend. Both YJ teams will dominate.

Law of contrapositives states differently for the Gaghan squad.

If FLG beat Liberty Black then FLG is better.
If FLG beat Tradition then FLG is better.
If Tradition beat Gaghan then Tradition is better.
Therefore there is a high likelihood that Gaghan gets throttled by any team in the field.


By the way, Tradition also beat Stadler too.
It'll be
1. Stadler
2. Gaghan
3. FLG
4. Tradition
5. Liberty


No will be

1. YJ A
2. FLG
3. Tradition
4. Liberty
5. YJ B

YJ B/Gaghan may beat Liberty, but would be shocked if the top 3 didn't finish in this order.
Has Liberty picked up some girls since the fall? They looked dramatically improved today.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has Liberty picked up some girls since the fall? They looked dramatically improved today.
Not enough to beat the YJ B team or FLG. Silly Liberty dad. Face it they aren’t the team they once were.
How Tradition vs YJ A team go?
YJB vastly improved.
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has Liberty picked up some girls since the fall? They looked dramatically improved today.
Not enough to beat the YJ B team or FLG. Silly Liberty dad. Face it they aren’t the team they once were.

FLG dad not liberty dad. That team was much improved.
Forfeited
Don't read too much into results. Girls who are still playing with their high school teams couldn't play. This is likely why some of the YJA games were closer than you would expect.
Ok anonymous ex-Liberty current YJ B parent!

The team rankings made on May 20th before the season are clear reasons why they play the games. But Liberty Black clearly was the upside surprise in the tournament and YJ-Stadler played the best team ball of the weekend.

Great day for Long Island lacrosse. And we all did not have to travel too far.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There’s not enough good competitive teams to just play on Long Island. Top teams need to travel. Even the Maryland teams will travel.

Queen of the Island is this weekend. Both YJ teams will dominate.

Law of contrapositives states differently for the Gaghan squad.

If FLG beat Liberty Black then FLG is better.
If FLG beat Tradition then FLG is better.
If Tradition beat Gaghan then Tradition is better.
Therefore there is a high likelihood that Gaghan gets throttled by any team in the field.

It doesn't work like that in sports. It's all about matchups. I'm not saying that will be the case with YJ Gaghan, but it happens more than you'd think. Plus, teams playing a team they think to be significantly weaker, often play sloppy. Not always, but enough that there can be some surprises.
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Ok anonymous ex-Liberty current YJ B parent!

The team rankings made on May 20th before the season are clear reasons why they play the games. But Liberty Black clearly was the upside surprise in the tournament and YJ-Stadler played the best team ball of the weekend.

Great day for Long Island lacrosse. And we all did not have to travel too far.

Ok anonymous Liberty black parent. Whatever makes you feel better. You will continue to lose your top players. They want to be on the best team and it isn’t Liberty. This is when those shifts start to happen. Liberty is no longer a top A team.
Ok YJA daddy. Your team wasn’t missing any of its top players so don’t make excuses. Also, since your team is so dominant and deep with talent, it shouldn’t really matter if you were missing any players.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't read too much into results. Girls who are still playing with their high school teams couldn't play. This is likely why some of the YJA games were closer than you would expect.

Lol. Stop trolling. YJ parent here and we had everyone. The games we played were close because they are 12.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok anonymous ex-Liberty current YJ B parent!

The team rankings made on May 20th before the season are clear reasons why they play the games. But Liberty Black clearly was the upside surprise in the tournament and YJ-Stadler played the best team ball of the weekend.

Great day for Long Island lacrosse. And we all did not have to travel too far.

Ok anonymous Liberty black parent. Whatever makes you feel better. You will continue to lose your top players. They want to be on the best team and it isn’t Liberty. This is when those shifts start to happen. Liberty is no longer a top A team.

Liberty tied FLG so they are right there
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't read too much into results. Girls who are still playing with their high school teams couldn't play. This is likely why some of the YJA games were closer than you would expect.

Lol. Stop trolling. YJ parent here and we had everyone. The games we played were close because they are 12.

12-14 on YJA
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't read too much into results. Girls who are still playing with their high school teams couldn't play. This is likely why some of the YJA games were closer than you would expect.

Lol. Stop trolling. YJ parent here and we had everyone. The games we played were close because they are 12.

So no girls on YJA are playing on their high school teams for playoffs?

Per NYSPHSAA rules, since they have played a club game during the high school season, their high school team would forfeit if they even dress for another game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't read too much into results. Girls who are still playing with their high school teams couldn't play. This is likely why some of the YJA games were closer than you would expect.

Lol. Stop trolling. YJ parent here and we had everyone. The games we played were close because they are 12.

So no girls on YJA are playing on their high school teams for playoffs?

Per NYSPHSAA rules, since they have played a club game during the high school season, their high school team would forfeit if they even dress for another game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't read too much into results. Girls who are still playing with their high school teams couldn't play. This is likely why some of the YJA games were closer than you would expect.

Lol. Stop trolling. YJ parent here and we had everyone. The games we played were close because they are 12.

So no girls on YJA are playing on their high school teams for playoffs?

Per NYSPHSAA rules, since they have played a club game during the high school season, their high school team would forfeit if they even dress for another game.


So if this is true then all the travel kids from last year and on , who played in several travel games , while in their HS season, they all had to forfeit those games, then a lot of good teams would of been knocked out of there playoffs then.
How come we do not include two way players.
Score goals ground balls and of course play defense.
Complete players
What does this mean even mean?
Huge fan of 5 took players!
Empire is going to have a wonderful tourney season!!!!
The surprise teams from last weekend and as has been posted here a few months ago……Liberty but more so YJ Gaghan.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The surprise teams from last weekend and as has been posted here a few months ago……Liberty but more so YJ Gaghan.

It's nice to see more parity amongst the 27's
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The surprise teams from last weekend and as has been posted here a few months ago……Liberty but more so YJ Gaghan.

It's nice to see more parity amongst the 27's

Agreed - lots of talent at this age group so let's for once be proud of LI lax instead of bashing kids. Should be a great summer
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The surprise teams from last weekend and as has been posted here a few months ago……Liberty but more so YJ Gaghan.

It's nice to see more parity amongst the 27's

Agreed - lots of talent at this age group so let's for once be proud of LI lax instead of bashing kids. Should be a great summer

Speaking of talent, does anyone have details on the LILJ Allstar game on June 15? Time/location/format?
Another joke, kids only picked if they did Yellow jacket or LILJ events.
Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.
dense question— does anyone know which of the steps teams is their A team? I thought it was blue but white was in a higher bracket at lax by the sea.
Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters
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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.
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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.


If their offense is designed to go 1 on 3 from top of the 12, then they executed quite well
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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

If a team plays a 2026 player should their opponent have the option of doing the same? Asking for a friend
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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

If a team plays a 2026 player should their opponent have the option of doing the same? Asking for a friend
They should be playing in a 26 division if they have a 26.
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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

If a team plays a 2026 player should their opponent have the option of doing the same? Asking for a friend
They should be playing in a 26 division if they have a 26.

I heard that happened too. It's not right and would detest to call out a team directly so I'll give a clue. "The transmission of customs or beliefs from generation to generation, or the fact of being passed on in this way." I hope playing ineligible players in sanctioned events doesn't become one of these.
Who had a 2026 player?
Sounds like tradition
Who cares then
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Who had a 2026 player?

Sounds like a certain team from Garden City
There are lots of teams the use the 2027 7th grade route while actually the girls age is that of the 2026 group, you can have 6 months to a year difference in some of the player and maybe more if the parents held the kids back.
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dense question— does anyone know which of the steps teams is their A team? I thought it was blue but white was in a higher bracket at lax by the sea.

After speaking with steps parents yesterday, it seems they split talent up equally. No A or B team. At least at 2027 and younger ages.
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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.
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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.


If their offense is designed to go 1 on 3 from top of the 12, then they executed quite well

Well, coaching is clearly a challenge for YJA, but I don't think it is the biggest challenge.

After watching them this Saturday and in the fall, for me the biggest challenge is roster composition. All of their starting attackers and middies (and several key backups) have incredibly individual talent -- probably the best on the island and some of the best in the nation.

Based on sum of talent, not sure any team in the country can compete. The problem is this -- every one of their 7 offensive starters in a ball dominant players, meaning they need the ball in their stick to be effective. They are at their best playing 1:1 and in a wide open game. the problem is that against any sophisticated and disciplined defense, this isn't enough.

You need people to cut off ball to strategically create space, you need to be able to feed effectively. Quite simply -- you need role players. If you watched YJB this weekend, you saw a completely different level of off-ball movement


YJA doesn't have them or at least doesn't have players willing to do this. With the current roster, this isn't a simple fix. Even if CR coached the team herself, while it would be much better, I am not sure they will win like they have in the past.

This doesn't mean they won't win any big games this summer. They defense is the strength of the team and their ride will create more than its fair share of turnovers -- which YJA can convert into scores as well as anyone. But stringing 5 or 6 games together to win tournaments will be tough.
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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

YJ A must have been missing some key players
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There are lots of teams the use the 2027 7th grade route while actually the girls age is that of the 2026 group, you can have 6 months to a year difference in some of the player and maybe more if the parents held the kids back.

Bringing a girl from the 2026 team to play while a goalie who is really a 2027 sits on the sideline because you don't think she's any good is a bit different.
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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

YJ A must have been missing some key players

nope
mommy & daddy ball issues raised to management

big changes this coming weekend
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mommy & daddy ball issues raised to management

big changes this coming weekend

Not sure that they have problems that one practice can solve
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Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Live from Jersey…..YJ parent tent calls an emergency Zoom meeting with carol to address daddy/mommy ball and for a tutorial on basic offensive concepts.


If their offense is designed to go 1 on 3 from top of the 12, then they executed quite well

Well, coaching is clearly a challenge for YJA, but I don't think it is the biggest challenge.

After watching them this Saturday and in the fall, for me the biggest challenge is roster composition. All of their starting attackers and middies (and several key backups) have incredibly individual talent -- probably the best on the island and some of the best in the nation.

Based on sum of talent, not sure any team in the country can compete. The problem is this -- every one of their 7 offensive starters in a ball dominant players, meaning they need the ball in their stick to be effective. They are at their best playing 1:1 and in a wide open game. the problem is that against any sophisticated and disciplined defense, this isn't enough.

You need people to cut off ball to strategically create space, you need to be able to feed effectively. Quite simply -- you need role players. If you watched YJB this weekend, you saw a completely different level of off-ball movement


YJA doesn't have them or at least doesn't have players willing to do this. With the current roster, this isn't a simple fix. Even if CR coached the team herself, while it would be much better, I am not sure they will win like they have in the past.

This doesn't mean they won't win any big games this summer. They defense is the strength of the team and their ride will create more than its fair share of turnovers -- which YJA can convert into scores as well as anyone. But stringing 5 or 6 games together to win tournaments will be tough.

LMAO. Has Jenn Levy reached out to your daughter yet regarding playing for UNC in 7 years yet?
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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

If a team plays a 2026 player should their opponent have the option of doing the same? Asking for a friend
They should be playing in a 26 division if they have a 26.

I heard that happened too. It's not right and would detest to call out a team directly so I'll give a clue. "The transmission of customs or beliefs from generation to generation, or the fact of being passed on in this way." I hope playing ineligible players in sanctioned events doesn't become one of these.


At lax by the sea tradition had some 26 kids moving between 3 rosters. Guess you have to do what you have to do to win and get your name out there
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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

If a team plays a 2026 player should their opponent have the option of doing the same? Asking for a friend
They should be playing in a 26 division if they have a 26.

I heard that happened too. It's not right and would detest to call out a team directly so I'll give a clue. "The transmission of customs or beliefs from generation to generation, or the fact of being passed on in this way." I hope playing ineligible players in sanctioned events doesn't become one of these.


At lax by the sea tradition had some 26 kids moving between 3 rosters. Guess you have to do what you have to do to win and get your name out there

Are you talking about 1 kid or multiple kids? How do you know? I have no problem of kids playing their own year and then help by playing up a grade, especially considering some of these teams roster are not that big and with injuries and conflicts, grabbing a kid or two from a year younger seems like a reasonable thing to do to let the kids play. For kids to play down a year though is not right.
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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

If a team plays a 2026 player should their opponent have the option of doing the same? Asking for a friend
They should be playing in a 26 division if they have a 26.

I heard that happened too. It's not right and would detest to call out a team directly so I'll give a clue. "The transmission of customs or beliefs from generation to generation, or the fact of being passed on in this way." I hope playing ineligible players in sanctioned events doesn't become one of these.


At lax by the sea tradition had some 26 kids moving between 3 rosters. Guess you have to do what you have to do to win and get your name out there


I know Tradition had at least 2 27s playing up on their 26s. Are you sure it wasn't those girls? Strong accusation to make without proof.
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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

Other than YJ B beating Heroes, none of this is surprising. YJ B finishing higher than YJ A is not apples to apples.
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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

Other than YJ B beating Heroes, none of this is surprising. YJ B finishing higher than YJ A is not apples to apples.

Heros Gaghan game was 20 minutes long.
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Get your popcorn ready. Should be a fun week at back of the cage

- YJ B finishes higher than YJ A
- FLG beats YJ A
- YJB Beats hero’s
- tradition beats jesters

If a team plays a 2026 player should their opponent have the option of doing the same? Asking for a friend
They should be playing in a 26 division if they have a 26.

I heard that happened too. It's not right and would detest to call out a team directly so I'll give a clue. "The transmission of customs or beliefs from generation to generation, or the fact of being passed on in this way." I hope playing ineligible players in sanctioned events doesn't become one of these.


At lax by the sea tradition had some 26 kids moving between 3 rosters. Guess you have to do what you have to do to win and get your name out there


I know Tradition had at least 2 27s playing up on their 26s. Are you sure it wasn't those girls? Strong accusation to make without proof.

I heard they even admitted to it. stinks not having a goalie but go find one in the right grade
Any word on the FLG dad who was kicked out of the game vs YJ?
Apparently he’s a problem everywhere he goes. Typical guy who has never been a part of real travel lax. Feel bad for him.
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Any word on the FLG dad who was kicked out of the game vs YJ?

Why was he kicked out?
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Any word on the FLG dad who was kicked out of the game vs YJ?

What did he do?
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Apparently he’s a problem everywhere he goes. Typical guy who has never been a part of real travel lax. Feel bad for him.
[ChillLaxin] stirrer! A typical troll who posted this and the statement couldn’t be further from the truth!
Another big weekend of lacrosse. Good luck to all the girls and teams!
Was told he was going crazy at the end of the game screaming at YJ patents when FLG was about to win talking trash. A director came over and escorted him out.
YJ Gaghan should do well again this weekend. They are the sleeper that has proven all the skeptics wrong.
The main issue is that you can't double roster players. The 26' goalie can't play for both 26 and 27 and shouldn't have played for the 27' team, considering they had a 27' goalie there.
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YJ Gaghan should do well again this weekend. They are the sleeper that has proven all the skeptics wrong.

Thanks Dad
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YJ Gaghan should do well again this weekend. They are the sleeper that has proven all the skeptics wrong.

You mean because they are playing in the 2nd weakest division in the whole tournament? I guess they should do well
I hope all the LI teams go down there tomorrow and kick butt. Who cares what bracket they’re in.
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I hope all the LI teams go down there tomorrow and kick butt. Who cares what bracket they’re in.

Amen - well said
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I hope all the LI teams go down there tomorrow and kick butt. Who cares what bracket they’re in.

Amen - well said

I hope stads, vin and ice queen don’t get paid by the win
smh
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YJ Gaghan should do well again this weekend. They are the sleeper that has proven all the skeptics wrong.

Watched them for a half on Saturday. Best coached YJ youth team i've ever seen. If they play a team with equivalent talent, they will win easily.

Challenge for them will be a lack of team speed and no top draw specialist. Will beat everyone below top 20 but can see them really struggling if they move up and play top teams.
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YJ Gaghan should do well again this weekend. They are the sleeper that has proven all the skeptics wrong.

Watched them for a half on Saturday. Best coached YJ youth team i've ever seen. If they play a team with equivalent talent, they will win easily.

Challenge for them will be a lack of team speed and no top draw specialist. Will beat everyone below top 20 but can see them really struggling if they move up and play top teams.

They need to be challenged to really improve, they should fight as much as possible to get to the best brackets.
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Ok anonymous ex-Liberty current YJ B parent!

The team rankings made on May 20th before the season are clear reasons why they play the games. But Liberty Black clearly was the upside surprise in the tournament and YJ-Stadler played the best team ball of the weekend.

Great day for Long Island lacrosse. And we all did not have to travel too far.

Ok anonymous Liberty black parent. Whatever makes you feel better. You will continue to lose your top players. They want to be on the best team and it isn’t Liberty. This is when those shifts start to happen. Liberty is no longer a top A team.

Liberty tied FLG so they are right there

Or not
Again to the ex liberty current YJB parent just move on already.
YJA - Most talented and deepest team……yes. Best team ball……not so sure.
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YJA - Most talented and deepest team……yes. Best team ball……not so sure.

They are as good as their draw team and their ride. When they create turnovers, they are nearly impossible to beat. When they get forced into a slow down settled play game, that is when they struggle.
Many of the top Maryland teams (M&D and BLC in particular) play a slower more controlled settled game - win the draw, slow it down and work it around for 10 minutes before shooting, so that doesn't bode well. Hero's plays more up tempo.
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Many of the top Maryland teams (M&D and BLC in particular) play a slower more controlled settled game - win the draw, slow it down and work it around for 10 minutes before shooting, so that doesn't bode well. Hero's plays more up tempo.


Very accurate. I missed the M&D YJA game, but evidently YJA scored with seconds remaining but the M&D successfully argued that the ball was late out of stick and refs overturned goal? Can anyone confirm?
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Many of the top Maryland teams (M&D and BLC in particular) play a slower more controlled settled game - win the draw, slow it down and work it around for 10 minutes before shooting, so that doesn't bode well. Hero's plays more up tempo.


Very accurate. I missed the M&D YJA game, but evidently YJA scored with seconds remaining but the M&D successfully argued that the ball was late out of stick and refs overturned goal? Can anyone confirm?

I watched the entire game. YJ was in control for most of it. Had a 3 goal lead with 10 minutes left and made some costly turnovers that led to M&D goals. As far as scoring with seconds remaining, the central horn clearly sounded before the shot.
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Many of the top Maryland teams (M&D and BLC in particular) play a slower more controlled settled game - win the draw, slow it down and work it around for 10 minutes before shooting, so that doesn't bode well. Hero's plays more up tempo.


Very accurate. I missed the M&D YJA game, but evidently YJA scored with seconds remaining but the M&D successfully argued that the ball was late out of stick and refs overturned goal? Can anyone confirm?

Horn sounded about 2 seconds before the shot. It was a faint noise because of the location. But shot shouldn't have counted. We were waiting to play next game and everyone was wondering if it was the horn or something else we heard. Guess it was the horn
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Was told he was going crazy at the end of the game screaming at YJ patents when FLG was about to win talking trash. A director came over and escorted him out.

Parents need to chill with all the sideline antics. We are losing officials because of it and that's just part of the problem. Cheer for the kids and cut out the nonsense.
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Many of the top Maryland teams (M&D and BLC in particular) play a slower more controlled settled game - win the draw, slow it down and work it around for 10 minutes before shooting, so that doesn't bode well. Hero's plays more up tempo.

M&D plays up tempo as well. Of all the top teams, Eagle Stix, BLC, Primate and LBC play the slowest tempos and would create the most matchup problems

On the flip side, Heros, MadSkillz and especially Aces tend to push it the most.
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Many of the top Maryland teams (M&D and BLC in particular) play a slower more controlled settled game - win the draw, slow it down and work it around for 10 minutes before shooting, so that doesn't bode well. Hero's plays more up tempo.


Very accurate. I missed the M&D YJA game, but evidently YJA scored with seconds remaining but the M&D successfully argued that the ball was late out of stick and refs overturned goal? Can anyone confirm?

I watched the entire game. YJ was in control for most of it. Had a 3 goal lead with 10 minutes left and made some costly turnovers that led to M&D goals. As far as scoring with seconds remaining, the central horn clearly sounded before the shot.

Saw the team pic on social. Saw only 17 kids including 2 goalies. Did a bunch of kids not even make the trip?
M&D has come back from 3 goal deficits halfway through 2nd in 3 of their last 6 wins.
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M&D has come back from 3 goal deficits halfway through 2nd in 3 of their last 6 wins.

Hard to make a living winning like that.
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M&D has come back from 3 goal deficits halfway through 2nd in 3 of their last 6 wins.

Hard to make a living winning like that.
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M&D has come back from 3 goal deficits halfway through 2nd in 3 of their last 6 wins.

I guess that’s why they are the #1 team in the rankings
They will struggle in tournaments (against top teams), depth not great for them and these games can really tire girls out with sometimes 3 games in 5 hours.
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They will struggle in tournaments (against top teams), depth not great for them and these games can really tire girls out with sometimes 3 games in 5 hours.

Funny considering they won the last 6 championship tournaments they played in and back to back Lax for the Cure
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They will struggle in tournaments (against top teams), depth not great for them and these games can really tire girls out with sometimes 3 games in 5 hours.

Funny considering they won the last 6 championship tournaments they played in and back to back Lax for the Cure

They were lucky to come from behind against BLC, Hero's and YJ the way they did. Point is, they aren't dominating, their lack of depth will hurt them against upper tier teams like this weekend,
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They will struggle in tournaments (against top teams), depth not great for them and these games can really tire girls out with sometimes 3 games in 5 hours.

Funny considering they won the last 6 championship tournaments they played in and back to back Lax for the Cure

They were lucky to come from behind against BLC, Hero's and YJ the way they did. Point is, they aren't dominating, their lack of depth will hurt them against upper tier teams like this weekend,

Doesn’t make a lot of sense. Maybe it’s their depth that wore teams down and that’s why they keep coming from behind and winning.
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They will struggle in tournaments (against top teams), depth not great for them and these games can really tire girls out with sometimes 3 games in 5 hours.

Funny considering they won the last 6 championship tournaments they played in and back to back Lax for the Cure

They were lucky to come from behind against BLC, Hero's and YJ the way they did. Point is, they aren't dominating, their lack of depth will hurt them against upper tier teams like this weekend,

Doesn’t make a lot of sense. Maybe it’s their depth that wore teams down and that’s why they keep coming from behind and winning.

We usually play them tough. But you can't argue with their success. They win most tournaments they enter.

They deserve respect. They play hard and clean for the most part. They aren't as flashy as most teams. But will always play hard until the end. Hopefully we play them in the final. You wanna beat the top dog. Right now they are on top.
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They will struggle in tournaments (against top teams), depth not great for them and these games can really tire girls out with sometimes 3 games in 5 hours.

Funny considering they won the last 6 championship tournaments they played in and back to back Lax for the Cure

They were lucky to come from behind against BLC, Hero's and YJ the way they did. Point is, they aren't dominating, their lack of depth will hurt them against upper tier teams like this weekend,

Doesn’t make a lot of sense. Maybe it’s their depth that wore teams down and that’s why they keep coming from behind and winning.

Those weren't tournaments, 2/3 were only game of day. Other was first of day. They could play their studs and not the bench. Same won't happen this weekend, when they play BLC as third game of the day.
Any predictions for this weekend at Lax for the Cure.

- Can YJ A win it all or at least make the semis?
- Will Top Guns or Gaghan win their group and make playoffs?
- WIll Legacy win a game?
- WIll it take more than an hour to find a parking spot mid-day Saturday?
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Any predictions for this weekend at Lax for the Cure.

- Can YJ A win it all or at least make the semis?
- Will Top Guns or Gaghan win their group and make playoffs?
- WIll Legacy win a game?
- WIll it take more than an hour to find a parking spot mid-day Saturday?

YJA at worst will be 2-2. BLC going to be a lot for them to handle. Hero's trying to beat them again is going to be tough.
Neither Top Guns (Coppermine or MDU) nor Gaghan (Pride) is going to win their group but both "could" make playoffs.
Legacy "could" beat TEAM ONE or TEAM 180 if things go right.
Parking is going to stink, as usual.
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Any predictions for this weekend at Lax for the Cure.

- Can YJ A win it all or at least make the semis?
- Will Top Guns or Gaghan win their group and make playoffs?
- WIll Legacy win a game?
- WIll it take more than an hour to find a parking spot mid-day Saturday?

YJA at worst will be 2-2. BLC going to be a lot for them to handle. Hero's trying to beat them again is going to be tough.
Neither Top Guns (Coppermine or MDU) nor Gaghan (Pride) is going to win their group but both "could" make playoffs.
Legacy "could" beat TEAM ONE or TEAM 180 if things go right.
Parking is going to stink, as usual.

Is FLG in this tourney? They could make a run.
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Any predictions for this weekend at Lax for the Cure.

- Can YJ A win it all or at least make the semis?
- Will Top Guns or Gaghan win their group and make playoffs?
- WIll Legacy win a game?
- WIll it take more than an hour to find a parking spot mid-day Saturday?

YJA at worst will be 2-2. BLC going to be a lot for them to handle. Hero's trying to beat them again is going to be tough.
Neither Top Guns (Coppermine or MDU) nor Gaghan (Pride) is going to win their group but both "could" make playoffs.
Legacy "could" beat TEAM ONE or TEAM 180 if things go right.
Parking is going to stink, as usual.

Is FLG in this tourney? They could make a run.

they are not
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Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Any new thoughts on Jester's A team? Are they still as bad as they were last summer or have they improved?
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Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Any new thoughts on Jester's A team? Are they still as bad as they were last summer or have they improved?

They have imrpoved !
They beat up Liberty pretty bad
Where can I track results from Summer Bolt tomorrow?
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Any predictions for this weekend at Lax for the Cure.

- Can YJ A win it all or at least make the semis?
- Will Top Guns or Gaghan win their group and make playoffs?
- WIll Legacy win a game?
- WIll it take more than an hour to find a parking spot mid-day Saturday?

YJA at worst will be 2-2. BLC going to be a lot for them to handle. Hero's trying to beat them again is going to be tough.
Neither Top Guns (Coppermine or MDU) nor Gaghan (Pride) is going to win their group but both "could" make playoffs.
Legacy "could" beat TEAM ONE or TEAM 180 if things go right.
Parking is going to stink, as usual.


Pretty nice picks

YJA looked strong in pool play. Surprisingly it was their defense that let them down in the playoffs against Steps CA

Nice call on Top Guns. Their defense and goalie looked awesome. They are two offensive players away from really being able to compete against anyone

YJB is probably the best coached team on the island. Truly greater than the sum of its parts. You watch them and don’t think they have a chance but don’t make mistakes, capitalize on opponent mistakes and don’t miss open shots

Legacy had no business playing in this group period. They thugged it up to keep some games relatively close but are nowhere near an A level team

Parked by the police department and got out in 20 minutes both days

Congrats to Aces. Their star #2 is the best 7th grader I have seen in many years. I bet YJA is doing everything they can to get her to move over.
how’s flg? heard it’s a small team but they have a few valuable players. thinking about getting my daughter to try out because of the coaching, been hearing it’s excellent.
My daughter plays FLG. the coaching is incredible. Non-stop all game every game. Cannot be happier with the staff and the leadership.
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Any predictions for this weekend at Lax for the Cure.

- Can YJ A win it all or at least make the semis?
- Will Top Guns or Gaghan win their group and make playoffs?
- WIll Legacy win a game?
- WIll it take more than an hour to find a parking spot mid-day Saturday?

YJA at worst will be 2-2. BLC going to be a lot for them to handle. Hero's trying to beat them again is going to be tough.
Neither Top Guns (Coppermine or MDU) nor Gaghan (Pride) is going to win their group but both "could" make playoffs.
Legacy "could" beat TEAM ONE or TEAM 180 if things go right.
Parking is going to stink, as usual.


Pretty nice picks

YJA looked strong in pool play. Surprisingly it was their defense that let them down in the playoffs against Steps CA

Nice call on Top Guns. Their defense and goalie looked awesome. They are two offensive players away from really being able to compete against anyone

YJB is probably the best coached team on the island. Truly greater than the sum of its parts. You watch them and don’t think they have a chance but don’t make mistakes, capitalize on opponent mistakes and don’t miss open shots

Legacy had no business playing in this group period. They thugged it up to keep some games relatively close but are nowhere near an A level team

Parked by the police department and got out in 20 minutes both days

Congrats to Aces. Their star #2 is the best 7th grader I have seen in many years. I bet YJA is doing everything they can to get her to move over.

From the M&D family. Congrats to Aces. Always a dogfight and today was no different. Congrats on grinding out the win and winning in OT. You guys were awesome.
And next week Aces and M&D will run it back in Hershey. Every game is a war. Both great teams. And winner next week will get Eagle Stix or Hero’s in bracket play. Another great weekend with mid-Atlantic close behind!
FLG is great. Look at all their college commits every year
is FLG best on the island? Some dads have been saying that they beat YJ pretty badly. I’ve watched their games, great coaching, all the girls look close, they definitely look to be in the deserving in the top 10 spot.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
is FLG best on the island? Some dads have been saying that they beat YJ pretty badly. I’ve watched their games, great coaching, all the girls look close, they definitely look to be in the deserving in the top 10 spot.

Are they the best? No. Can they beat YJA again? Yes. They are very well coached , but YJA's talent advantage is just too great.

From my Perspective, this is how 27 on the island stand up


YJA

FLG


TGA YJB
Jesters


Tradition


Liberty







Legacy TGB


Everyone else
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
is FLG best on the island? Some dads have been saying that they beat YJ pretty badly. I’ve watched their games, great coaching, all the girls look close, they definitely look to be in the deserving in the top 10 spot.

Are they the best? No. Can they beat YJA again? Yes. They are very well coached , but YJA's talent advantage is just too great.

From my Perspective, this is how 27 on the island stand up


YJA

FLG


TGA YJB
Jesters


Tradition


Liberty







Legacy TGB


Everyone else

Well coached? A draw girl and goalie can make any coach look like a genius.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
is FLG best on the island? Some dads have been saying that they beat YJ pretty badly. I’ve watched their games, great coaching, all the girls look close, they definitely look to be in the deserving in the top 10 spot.

Are they the best? No. Can they beat YJA again? Yes. They are very well coached , but YJA's talent advantage is just too great.

From my Perspective, this is how 27 on the island stand up


YJA

FLG


TGA YJB
Jesters


Tradition


Liberty







Legacy TGB


Everyone else

except FLG is not playing in half the tournaments the other top teams are
Well coached? A draw girl and goalie can make any coach look like a genius.[/quote]

Hysterical! Smart players that play together. Great (not goo) coaching. And a small roster where they can add a few girls and not cost players playing time. I’d say they will be ok!
if they can beat them why aren’t they the best, as a whole the team the team is very talented, that is the only thing that matters. Yes YJA has some incredible players but that does not matter if they can not work together.
Well coached? A draw girl and goalie can make any coach look like a genius.[/quote]

Well something has to be going right if the teams small roster can deliver them good wins against top 10 teams. YJA has absolutely phenomenal players on their team but still could not convert against FLG. Why? Because FLG coaching, I think that FLG really took time to realize what they need to beat them, that’s good coaching. YJA mommy and daddy coaching is not going to work in the near future, that is why they are struggling. Probably 15 players on play on that team and other girls (who are very good) ride the bench. FLG is definitely not made up of the one very good and tall draw girl and the goalie who is also very good. The team has a very good middie line and two great X attackers. The defense also seems to be solid.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
is FLG best on the island? Some dads have been saying that they beat YJ pretty badly. I’ve watched their games, great coaching, all the girls look close, they definitely look to be in the deserving in the top 10 spot.

Are they the best? No. Can they beat YJA again? Yes. They are very well coached , but YJA's talent advantage is just too great.

From my Perspective, this is how 27 on the island stand up


YJA

FLG


TGA YJB
Jesters


Tradition


Liberty







Legacy TGB


Everyone else

Well coached? A draw girl and goalie can make any coach look like a genius.

In comparison to YJA, every top team on the island (with the possible exception of TGA) is well coached.
Agreed.
If YJA gets it’s act together they have the deepest and most talented team. That’s a big “if”. Once they also begin to accept and respect that there are other quality teams, that may help them as a team in the long run.

FLG has a very talented and team oriented squad but not deep at all. If they add a few pieces and they continue to play as they do, they will always be in the conversation.

YJB continues to be the big surprise and continue to play extremely well and seem to be extremely well coached whether at tournaments or the prep going into tournaments.

Haven’t seen TG play at all this year. I’m sure they have a very good squad.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If YJA gets it’s act together they have the deepest and most talented team. That’s a big “if”. Once they also begin to accept and respect that there are other quality teams, that may help them as a team in the long run.

FLG has a very talented and team oriented squad but not deep at all. If they add a few pieces and they continue to play as they do, they will always be in the conversation.

YJB continues to be the big surprise and continue to play extremely well and seem to be extremely well coached whether at tournaments or the prep going into tournaments.

Haven’t seen TG play at all this year. I’m sure they have a very good squad.

TG is good this year but has the same problems with inconsistent coaching.