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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 01:17 PM
Thoughts on Jesters for this year? Is it more for the average player? Who are the coaches?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thoughts on Jesters for this year? Is it more for the average player? Who are the coaches?

Not sure about coaches but their A team is pretty good and the B team isn’t. This is solely based on research I did on their results from tournaments this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 06:01 PM
Is the Liberty B team walk on or do they actually make cuts? Nobody seems to mention this team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 07:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thoughts on Jesters for this year? Is it more for the average player? Who are the coaches?

Not sure about coaches but their A team is pretty good and the B team isn’t. This is solely based on research I did on their results from tournaments this summer.

Their A team is past summer was not good at all!
Couldn’t compete with any decent teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 07:07 PM
Coaches are good. There are some good girls on that team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 07:46 PM
Look at the losses. Tied a few and lost an handful of 1 and 2 goal games. They played some good teams. Adding a few good players will make them stronger.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/02/21 08:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the Liberty B team walk on or do they actually make cuts? Nobody seems to mention this team.

Liberty Red is a walk-on. If your kid is serious about lax, don’t waste your money. Find another club
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/03/21 03:20 AM
Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/03/21 11:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/03/21 12:54 PM
agreed
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/03/21 01:39 PM
Girls 2028...Thoughts on Liberty, FLG, 91 & Recon. Recon is new to this age. What are your thoughts in joining a brand new team with a really talented player?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/03/21 02:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Girls 2028...Thoughts on Liberty, FLG, 91 & Recon. Recon is new to this age. What are your thoughts in joining a brand new team with a really talented player?

Wrong thread buddy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/03/21 06:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.

TG and Liberty are not even close to YG and FLG at this age. I would say the YJ “B” team is better than both TG and Liberty A teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/03/21 07:45 PM
So much movement this tryout season - but YJ B team was not very good as it was. Strong players not on YJ Grazzy or FLG are finding those other strong teams to push to the next level - heck even girls on those first two teams have switched around this year. Interesting to see where it all shakes out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 01:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.

Top Guns didn’t win one thing all season and there coaching
Is horrible.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 02:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.

Top Guns didn’t win one thing all season and there coaching
Is horrible.

As horrible as your grammar? I guess you never learned the difference between their or there. Or they’re!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 02:49 AM
Top Guns 27 ascending.....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 02:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Jesters 2027 A team is one of the weaker ‘A’ teams on the island and the B team is just stealing money from those parents. Jesters have some good teams in other ages, but this isn’t one of them.

Top teams in this age group are YJ Graz, FLG Navy, TG Black and Liberty Black.

Top Guns didn’t win one thing all season and there coaching
Is horrible.
Agree the TG coaching is horrible and yes they didn't win one thing all season. But at least they entered some real tournaments. FLG only played in cupcake tournaments, it would be interesting to see how they would do if they actually played some real tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 03:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So much movement this tryout season - but YJ B team was not very good as it was. Strong players not on YJ Grazzy or FLG are finding those other strong teams to push to the next level - heck even girls on those first two teams have switched around this year. Interesting to see where it all shakes out.

My kid didn’t try out for many teams. What movement did you see? Curious where girls from Grazzy or FLG would go. Any other team would be a step down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 03:57 AM
To be accurate for this age group, it’s YJ Grazadei, flg Navy then a pretty big drop off, liberty black, empire, YJ gaghan, TG black then a drop off, elevate, YJ Palermo, legacy, jesters, then a drop off for anyone else like blue devils, 91bandits and the b teams. And tradition is prob in the second grouping, but not sure if they count bc they’re just GC. Will be interesting to see if pieces shuffled around this summer and any changes among the top teams. MY guess is grazadei gets stronger
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 04:29 PM
Top Gun’s will be very good next year. They had a tough year because half of the team belonged on purple. This year they will have a purple team and their top team will be very strong.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Gun’s will be very good next year. They had a tough year because half of the team belonged on purple. This year they will have a purple team and their top team will be very strong.
Top Guns 27 black will be fine lost to Grazzy 27 at Hofstra tournament 10-5 playing all their kids against the 14 kids Grazzy plays all the time anyway.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 05:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Top Gun’s will be very good next year. They had a tough year because half of the team belonged on purple. This year they will have a purple team and their top team will be very strong.
Top Guns 27 black will be fine lost to Grazzy 27 at Hofstra tournament 10-5 playing all their kids against the 14 kids Grazzy plays all the time anyway.

What’s the word on Grazzy? Been hearing that parents of girls who never see field are fuming and looking elsewhere
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 06:54 PM
YJ Graz did not play Hofstra
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Graz did not play Hofstra

Top Guns did equal playing time the whole Hofstra tournament.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/04/21 08:01 PM
They are talking about the North Shore team made up of almost entirely YJ Graz players including the one player the entire team runs through
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/05/21 12:38 AM
sure
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/05/21 12:39 AM
yes. guess he didn't get asked
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/06/21 04:14 AM
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/06/21 10:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

YJ is a top notch club. If there was a problem they will fix it. Great training and best tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/06/21 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.
I've seen a lot of talk about the parent coaches on this team but I don't think they are the issue. The head coach, Grazadei, is not a parent coach, and quite honestly he is the issue. This team is very good and could be great if they had the right coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/06/21 03:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.
I've seen a lot of talk about the parent coaches on this team but I don't think they are the issue. The head coach, Grazadei, is not a parent coach, and quite honestly he is the issue. This team is very good and could be great if they had the right coach.[/quote]


Is that what most of the team parents feel or a few disgruntled ones? What’s the big problem with his coaching style? Seems good coaching almost impossible to find for this age
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/06/21 03:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.
I've seen a lot of talk about the parent coaches on this team but I don't think they are the issue. The head coach, Grazadei, is not a parent coach, and quite honestly he is the issue. This team is very good and could be great if they had the right coach.


Is that what most of the team parents feel or a few disgruntled ones? What’s the big problem with his coaching style? Seems good coaching almost impossible to find for this age[/quote]
Of course the disgruntled ones(more than a few) but also from a few starters. His coaching style is too yell at the girls the whole game. Personally I think at this age they need to make mistake and learn from them. It's hard to think for yourself when he is screaming in your ear. Also if you want your daughter to get better don't expect to get it from his practices. There is way too much sitting around. FYI he will be more than happy to take your money to privately train your girl. Then you have his communication skills, the way he talks to the kids and parents is ridiculous. This is the YJ A team they will always be good, even if they had a parent coach who never played they would still be good. This is a special team and could be great, just need the right coach to take them to that level, and sorry it's not him.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/06/21 05:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To be accurate for this age group, it’s YJ Grazadei, flg Navy then a pretty big drop off, liberty black, empire, YJ gaghan, TG black then a drop off, elevate, YJ Palermo, legacy, jesters, then a drop off for anyone else like blue devils, 91bandits and the b teams. And tradition is prob in the second grouping, but not sure if they count bc they’re just GC. Will be interesting to see if pieces shuffled around this summer and any changes among the top teams. MY guess is grazadei gets stronger


Genuine question as this is our first kid going through lax on LI (in a younger age group) If you are on GC tradition in the second grouping, is it worth trying to get on onto a YJ/ tier 1 team or is the name of the game playing time hoping for the coaches to get our team to big tournaments. Thanks!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/06/21 06:06 PM
Couple thoughts, 1. Your daughter is no longer going to be on that team so your taking your shot at the coach. Sad. Move on. 2. Your daughter will still be on that team, and you continue to bring her to a team with a coach that you say is so terrible. Sad. Move on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 01:43 PM
We won’t know how teams shake out until after yj tryouts at the end of the month.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To be accurate for this age group, it’s YJ Grazadei, flg Navy then a pretty big drop off, liberty black, empire, YJ gaghan, TG black then a drop off, elevate, YJ Palermo, legacy, jesters, then a drop off for anyone else like blue devils, 91bandits and the b teams. And tradition is prob in the second grouping, but not sure if they count bc they’re just GC. Will be interesting to see if pieces shuffled around this summer and any changes among the top teams. MY guess is grazadei gets stronger


Genuine question as this is our first kid going through lax on LI (in a younger age group) If you are on GC tradition in the second grouping, is it worth trying to get on onto a YJ/ tier 1 team or is the name of the game playing time hoping for the coaches to get our team to big tournaments. Thanks!

Name of the game at younger age is def. training, playing and finding joy in the game! If your daughter not happy on a team. Don’t stay!
You should start to know by 7/8th grade the ability and commitment level of your kid. If they are serious and committed, Try to position your daughter on a team that suits her abilities. Changing teams after 8th will only get harder. There is every type of team on LI for every level of player. The “best” is what’s best for your kid! smile Good luck!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 06:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

YJ is a top notch club. If there was a problem they will fix it. Great training and best tournaments.

Training is meh. You can pay extra for private training with coach if you want to. Practices are very technical focused on offensive plays which don't really work and revolve around the best player. I think if you polled most parents of starters and bench warmers very few would say their daughter got better. Team camaraderie is good but there is a lot of smack talk on the sidelines about the poor coaching. Team is loaded with talent so they can win despite all of it but sort of a lost year. Problem is if you're on the team looking for an alternative there really isn't much out there. If you're thinking of coming, your daughter probably isn't an upgrade and starters not changing. And only starters play in the important games which is basically all the games in the elite summer tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 08:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

YJ is a top notch club. If there was a problem they will fix it. Great training and best tournaments.

Training is meh. You can pay extra for private training with coach if you want to. Practices are very technical focused on offensive plays which don't really work and revolved around the best player. I think if you polled most parents of starters and bench warmers very few would say their daughter got better. Team camaraderie is good but there is a lot of smack talk on the sidelines about the poor coaching. Team is loaded with talent so they can win despite all of it but sort of a lost year. Problem is if you're on the team looking for an alternative there really isn't much out there. If you're thinking of coming, your daughter probably isn't an upgrade and starters not changing. And only starters play in the important games which is basically all the games in the elite summer tournaments.

Sounds like every club except for the highly competitive tournaments. Basically you train on your own and play on a team where you can compete. Find that and you’ve found the right team. No matter where you are you need to train on your own. Get better and build confidence. If you are good get on a team that actually competes in real tournaments. Enjoy the ride.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/07/21 08:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

As long as she isn’t a middie you’re fine.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/08/21 08:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

As long as she isn’t a middie you’re fine.

She’s actually attack. How are the odds there?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/09/21 04:11 AM
It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/09/21 09:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.

My daughter is coming back to grazzy but I’m still hoping there is a coaching change. Team could be so much better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/09/21 11:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.
Your delusional if you think it's only one parent who is complaining about how bad the coaching is. You might be surprised who is complaining about the head coach, I just hope people actually have the balls to say something to CR. Nothing will change if everyone just sits back and says nothing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/10/21 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.

My daughter is coming back to grazzy but I’m still hoping there is a coaching change. Team could be so much better.


Its a top-5 team, hard to argue with results. So the issue with coaching is the kids aren't learning X & Os, the subbing, technical stuff, verbal abuse, or all of the above?
My daughters team played you guys, and won, but it was clear there was one main scorer and a few others but I saw a talented team that took poor shots and was out of control with checks (refs called it tight which hurt you guys).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/10/21 09:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

As long as she isn’t a middie you’re fine.

She’s actually attack. How are the odds there?
Good if she is quick, team could use a couple in the attack position.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/11/21 12:13 AM
What clubs that previously only had one team now have 2? Where are all these kids coming from? Are they leaving existing teams or are new players emerging? I am amazed that some of these clubs can field a second team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/15/21 09:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What clubs that previously only had one team now have 2? Where are all these kids coming from? Are they leaving existing teams or are new players emerging? I am amazed that some of these clubs can field a second team.


They’ll keep fielding as many as they can as long as the money clears. Some kids and parents are fine to be on a B or C team. Not everyone is in this for the long run.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/15/21 09:18 PM
Wow, look at you big man...evaluating little girls and speaking about one little girl in particular? You should email that parent directly since you feel so strongly. Dare you. Because you seem to know a LOT about girls lacrosse. Doesn't know how to play the game or hustle? Calm down and focus on your own daughter. Or post her number so we can evaluate her play right back. And your commitment to 12 year old girls lacrosse makes ME laugh. Have a little humility (look that up) and realize that just b/c your daughter plays right now, doesn't mean she always will. She's TWELVE ...don't count your chickens before they hatch...it's a long road.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/15/21 09:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How bad is the daddy coaching situation at YJ? Thinking of having my daughter try out but sounds like drama.

As long as she isn’t a middie you’re fine.

She’s actually attack. How are the odds there?
Good if she is quick, team could use a couple in the attack position.

And just a heads up she won’t learn much in actual practice but the coach sends around really useful YouTube videos as part of your tuition. Next best to having practice I guess.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/16/21 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.

My daughter is coming back to grazzy but I’m still hoping there is a coaching change. Team could be so much better.

The big issue on Grazzy is that they had 22-23 girls last year and had a 14-15 girl rotation until garbage time. That means 8 or 9 girls aren't going to get meaningful game experience. You don't want to go to Grazzy as a fringe player. Better off for development playing on the B team -- Gaghan
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/16/21 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.

My daughter is coming back to grazzy but I’m still hoping there is a coaching change. Team could be so much better.

The big issue on Grazzy is that they had 22-23 girls last year and had a 14-15 girl rotation until garbage time. That means 8 or 9 girls aren't going to get meaningful game experience. You don't want to go to Grazzy as a fringe player. Better off for development playing on the B team -- Gaghan

That is typically the case with any team. You have to find the right team for your child. You never want to be at the bottom of a team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/16/21 03:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s amazing. One parent keeps complaining how bad yj is. Sorry... your kid isn’t good enough to play anymore. Two years ago she looked really good. It’s everyone else’s fault that she has not gotten better in two years ....and most other kids have. It’s the parent coaches fault that your kid doesn’t know how to play the game or doesn’t hustle. No one on high level teams pay for extra clinics/practices. It’s only YJ. You’re delusional. Good luck on a midlevel club beating up on bad travel teams. I look forward to more of your insightful travel posts in the future ...they make me laugh.

My daughter is coming back to grazzy but I’m still hoping there is a coaching change. Team could be so much better.

The big issue on Grazzy is that they had 22-23 girls last year and had a 14-15 girl rotation until garbage time. That means 8 or 9 girls aren't going to get meaningful game experience. You don't want to go to Grazzy as a fringe player. Better off for development playing on the B team -- Gaghan

That is typically the case with any team. You have to find the right team for your child. You never want to be at the bottom of a team.


Much worse at YJ than at other places. Many other top clubs here or in MD will give most if not all players some burn in pool play games. (Best player obv play more). Look at FLG, TG, Heros, STEPS, Aces, most players play in most non-playoff games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/16/21 08:46 PM
Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/17/21 02:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/17/21 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/17/21 08:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.

YJ used to hold tryouts in early December so they've gotten better
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/17/21 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.

They’ll take YJ spots 26+++. The YJ rosters are ridiculous. Total money grab.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/18/21 02:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.

They’ll take YJ spots 26+++. The YJ rosters are ridiculous. Total money grab.

Says the parent who's daughter can't make their teams.
They are always the best, so detest all you want. It's pure jealously.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/18/21 01:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.

They’ll take YJ spots 26+++. The YJ rosters are ridiculous. Total money grab.

Says the parent who's daughter can't make their teams.
They are always the best, so detest all you want. It's pure jealously.

What are the roster sizes on average on the YJ teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/18/21 04:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any truth that Liberty black lost a chunk of their top players?

to whom? hard to believe any movement is finalized until after YJ tryouts next week.

They have offered new girls spots, so they either know that girls are leaving or they are inflating the roster.

Amazes me that YJ holds their tryouts so late.

They’ll take YJ spots 26+++. The YJ rosters are ridiculous. Total money grab.

Says the parent who's daughter can't make their teams.
They are always the best, so detest all you want. It's pure jealously.

What are the roster sizes on average on the YJ teams?

Last year's rosters are still on their website, you can see for yourself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/18/21 06:39 PM
What is the Ohana lacrosse club? Is it brand new? Who runs it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/23/21 12:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the Ohana lacrosse club? Is it brand new? Who runs it?

Looks brand new on the girls side. I have never heard of it on the boys side either. I would have to do some more research. I wouldn’t necessarily count a new club out. S2S started with one boys team and in just a few short years have built that program out. Their girls side started with just 3 teams and now some of the years already have 2 teams. Pick an organization that fits your kid. Don’t be on an A team just to say she plays on an A team. If she doesn’t get to play that won’t help her improve. Some clubs are really hardcore. Will that incentivize her or burn her out? Do you want to travel off LI every weekend or are you good with more local tournaments. I have older kids so have been through this from start to finish. Understand your kids end game. Do they want to be a d1 commit? Or do you want them to be a d1 commit? Full rides are not a thing. If you are banking on a scholarship you may be disappointed. My daughter plays because she loves the game. We picked a team that matched her personality. If she plays in college because she wants to great. That will be up to her. Don’t let the crazy stink you in! Some of the parents are living vicariously through their kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/23/21 03:42 PM
I think it’s great we live in an area with so many options. There is a team out there for every type of kid and the type of player they want to be. If it’s for fun and making friends and doing something they enjoy without having to be over the top serious, that’s awesome! There’s a team for that.

Pick fun , Especially at the younger ages. Let them have fun and enjoy it, then go from there as they develop their game. See where “they” want to go with it. You will know if your daughter is truly enjoying it, if you don’t have to “make them go” to practice and games!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 03:46 PM
Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 06:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 09:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/24/21 11:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

where did the girls who left black go?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 01:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

Are you sure about that? Sounds off to me. Don’t think they’d take kids who’ve never played before. I heard they picked up some good players from other teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 03:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

Are you sure about that? Sounds off to me. Don’t think they’d take kids who’ve never played before. I heard they picked up some good players from other teams.

100% sure as I know one. Picked up good players from where?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 03:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

where did the girls who left black go?

At least 2 went to YJ.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 03:20 AM
YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 03:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

where did the girls who left black go?

A couple to yj and a couple to others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 03:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is anyone familiar with the Liberty program? Heard the 2026 Liberty Red team folded and their Black team may not have enough girls. Trying to make a decision where to go

Your kid made Liberty black or red? And coming from another team or first year playing club? Liberty’s black teams are usually pretty strong but red are a disaster.

The 2027 black team took kids this year that are playing lax for the first time this year. They also lost some of their top players. The Liberty Red team at this age isn’t that competitive. Hard to base things on the other years in an organization. Some years are just stronger than others. Liberty held tryouts weeks ago at this point. I would a little weary of them still offering spots, especially on their Black team.

Are you sure about that? Sounds off to me. Don’t think they’d take kids who’ve never played before. I heard they picked up some good players from other teams.

Truth. Heard the same thing from someone on another team in the org. Widely known some crazy parents on that team, extra practices, drama. A bunch left. replacements lower level than who left including the previously said first timers. Don’t know anything about red other than they take anyone. Time will tell for all teams. As being said, find a good place for your kid where they can grow and are happy. Wins/losses overrated.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 03:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 11:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Find a team that is a good fit for your daughter. Don’t go to a YJ team to just sit the bench! Your daughter will be miserable. Be honest about daughters abilities and access the situation clearly.

There are So many teams on LI! Find one where “she” can thrive and enjoy actually playing the game! You parents will not be happy traveling every weekend either, if your daughter only gets a few min. Of playing time! Plus, the way to get better is playing in actual games. Not just practices and scrimmages. Also, better for your daughters morale and happiness to actually be in the games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 01:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Find a team that is a good fit for your daughter. Don’t go to a YJ team to just sit the bench! Your daughter will be miserable. Be honest about daughters abilities and access the situation clearly.

There are So many teams on LI! Find one where “she” can thrive and enjoy actually playing the game! You parents will not be happy traveling every weekend either, if your daughter only gets a few min. Of playing time! Plus, the way to get better is playing in actual games. Not just practices and scrimmages. Also, better for your daughters morale and happiness to actually be in the games.

Or volunteer to be an assistant coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Find a team that is a good fit for your daughter. Don’t go to a YJ team to just sit the bench! Your daughter will be miserable. Be honest about daughters abilities and access the situation clearly.

There are So many teams on LI! Find one where “she” can thrive and enjoy actually playing the game! You parents will not be happy traveling every weekend either, if your daughter only gets a few min. Of playing time! Plus, the way to get better is playing in actual games. Not just practices and scrimmages. Also, better for your daughters morale and happiness to actually be in the games.

Or volunteer to be an assistant coach.

That's funny because it's true.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 07:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Team would be better if mommy was the head coach. At least she played at a high level. Unclear what experience the other two have
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 07:50 PM
It's easy said than done to find a team that my girl is a good fit, right? You don't really know the organization and more importantly the team itself until you spend some time with them and then it's a whole year before the next try out for another team. And then even you hear the reputation about certain teams, but girls move around and the dynamics could be quite different.

Any suggestions how?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 08:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Team would be better if mommy was the head coach. At least she played at a high level. Unclear what experience the other two have
Agree, she would be a better fit for this team, I think most parents feel this way. I don't get all the middle age men coaching girls lax. You would think a women run org would try to get more women coaches. I know people aren't a fan of parent coaches, but I think she would be great for this team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 08:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy said than done to find a team that my girl is a good fit, right? You don't really know the organization and more importantly the team itself until you spend some time with them and then it's a whole year before the next try out for another team. And then even you hear the reputation about certain teams, but girls move around and the dynamics could be quite different.

Any suggestions how?

Talking to other parents who have been in lacrosse on LI. Also, knowing the level of player your daughter is and her commitment. How serious she wants to be and where she wants to go with Lacrosse. Most people I know did end up moving teams once or twice. Trying to find the right fit. That def. gets harder in JH and HS age level. Talk to LI people with girls in lacrosse. They know the organizations. Plus, you need to get in a team your daughter will actually play on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 09:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy said than done to find a team that my girl is a good fit, right? You don't really know the organization and more importantly the team itself until you spend some time with them and then it's a whole year before the next try out for another team. And then even you hear the reputation about certain teams, but girls move around and the dynamics could be quite different.

Any suggestions how?

Since this year's team selection is mostly done, I'll give you some advice for next year. In late May or early June call a director of one of the clubs you're interested in. Tell them you're interested in coming to their club but you'd like your daughter to "work in" at a practice to get a feel for things. In my experience, Directors almost always say yes. Then you can see the other girls, the coaching, and how your daughter fits in.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/25/21 10:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy said than done to find a team that my girl is a good fit, right? You don't really know the organization and more importantly the team itself until you spend some time with them and then it's a whole year before the next try out for another team. And then even you hear the reputation about certain teams, but girls move around and the dynamics could be quite different.

Any suggestions how?

Since this year's team selection is mostly done, I'll give you some advice for next year. In late May or early June call a director of one of the clubs you're interested in. Tell them you're interested in coming to their club but you'd like your daughter to "work in" at a practice to get a feel for things. In my experience, Directors almost always say yes. Then you can see the other girls, the coaching, and how your daughter fits in.

I haven’t heard of this “work-in” tactic before, but I guess it’s worth a try. Another suggestion is to go to other clubs’ clinics and camps and get a feel for how they run things, get to know the coaches, girls, etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/26/21 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ big upgrades. The gap gets wider.

Hopefully whoever goes is happy. Hopefully girls left to find their place somewhere else. Hopefully parents do right by their kid.

Hopefully daddy and mommy can hold on for another year keeping their kids on the field.

Team would be better if mommy was the head coach. At least she played at a high level. Unclear what experience the other two have

Agree, she would be a better fit for this team, I think most parents feel this way. I don't get all the middle age men coaching girls lax. You would think a women run org would try to get more women coaches. I know people aren't a fan of parent coaches, but I think she would be great for this team.

Agreed. Just a matter of time. Grazzy will flame out and number 2 will follow his kid to B team eventually.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/26/21 12:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy said than done to find a team that my girl is a good fit, right? You don't really know the organization and more importantly the team itself until you spend some time with them and then it's a whole year before the next try out for another team. And then even you hear the reputation about certain teams, but girls move around and the dynamics could be quite different.

Any suggestions how?

Is your daughter on a team this year? I have older kids as well as one at this age and I can honestly say I learned a ton watching the games. Listening to the coaches of other teams. Watching how the girls treated one another on the field. I would catch parts of other teams playing in between my kids games. Watching a coach during the game shows you a ton. Do the same girls sit most of the game? Does the coach yell? Is the coach giving instruction and taking time to talk to the girls in real time during the game? You also have to know your kid. How hard core do they want to be? Do THEY (not you) want to play in college some day? The biggest mistake I think parents make is chasing the A team at any cost. All A teams are not created equal. Sometimes you are better off being the top player on a B team than being at the bottom of an A team. If she isn’t on a team yet and wants to play travel
I wouldn’t have her sit idle this year. Call some of the clubs and see if anyone has spots (may be on their B team) it will give you a chance to experience travel and see some of the teams in action.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 12:43 AM
If YJ was the biggest winner with all this movement, who were the biggest losers?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 01:44 AM
FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 03:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,

I would take Jesters off of that (they gained) and add Elevate! They have been on decline for the last couple of years
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 03:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,

Nonsense. Top players from above teams aren’t going to YJ to be the next sheep to pay and sit the bench.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 03:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,
Don’t think the FLG team would agree.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 05:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,

Nonsense. Top players from above teams aren’t going to YJ to be the next sheep to pay and sit the bench.

So where do you think they went? The teams definitely lost some of their top talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG, Liberty, Empire, Jesters,

Nonsense. Top players from above teams aren’t going to YJ to be the next sheep to pay and sit the bench.

So where do you think they went? The teams definitely lost some of their top talent.

They stayed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 05:59 PM
FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 08:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.

Liberty also definitely lost
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 09:29 PM
Gains were greater than their losses - keep telling yourself that
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/28/21 09:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.

From my count lost 4 to YJ picked up 5
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/29/21 12:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG most definitely lost some talent - anyone saying otherwise is speaking nonsense

Their gains were greater than their losses.

From my count lost 4 to YJ picked up 5

welcome to YJ! someone has to pay for the coaches hotels.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/30/21 11:54 PM
Where did the top talent from liberty go?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 01:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where did the top talent from liberty go?

YJ
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 02:04 AM
Does top talent from every team eventually end up at YJ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 11:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does top talent from every team eventually end up at YJ?

There and TG.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 12:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does top talent from every team eventually end up at YJ?

In the past, due to getting their teams into top tournaments and attention for recruiting years. Although, I think that has changed in the past couple of years.

There are many very good LI clubs who go to the same tournaments and have had great success in getting their girls recruited! Lots of good team opportunities for LI girls. Find a team that your daughter will be happy on and actually play on in 7/8th/9th grade! Playing in the games in these years is crucial to get her better. Don’t go to a club for the name and sit the bench at tourneys! This def. will not help in recruiting come 10th grade
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 08/31/21 02:16 PM
Yes and agree
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 01:45 AM
What is the standard practice of paying for the club fees? When you were offered a spot on a team, you pay a certain amount of deposit to "commit" to a team. What if you got a better offer 2 weeks later from another team? Looks like you'd be out of luck with the deposit, but am I liable to pay the rest of the fee? TIA.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 02:56 AM
Bigger problem is YJ has part ownership of all the ‘top tournaments’ so people feel that they must play there to get in those tourneys, the last poster is right, a ton of good teams on LI and more and more teams getting in these ‘top tournaments’ , there are a ton of good tk tourneys out there but ultimately YJ just padding their pockets bc this false narrative! Go to a team where your daughter has a good coach and will play, I know the YJ A team only played about 12-14 girls at most tourneys with a roster of 24!!!! In this age group, Flg, liberty, and empire all have Good HS coaches there, as well as YJA and YJB, not sure of the coaches at other clubs, But it’s not worth being on a team if you’re on the bench at this age!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 03:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the standard practice of paying for the club fees? When you were offered a spot on a team, you pay a certain amount of deposit to "commit" to a team. What if you got a better offer 2 weeks later from another team? Looks like you'd be out of luck with the deposit, but am I liable to pay the rest of the fee? TIA.

Did you sign a contract or anything ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 10:24 AM
No further liability. You just lose your deposit. Did it once and was well worth it. I chose to lose my initial deposit rather than suffer through a summer where I would be pissed off.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 03:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is the standard practice of paying for the club fees? When you were offered a spot on a team, you pay a certain amount of deposit to "commit" to a team. What if you got a better offer 2 weeks later from another team? Looks like you'd be out of luck with the deposit, but am I liable to pay the rest of the fee? TIA.

Did you sign a contract or anything ?

Did not sign a contract but by accepting the position, certain "terms" were agreed. But the terms are clear on no refunds but not clear otherwise.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 03:31 PM
Did the terms have one payment to reserve a spot? Or was it a payment plan of consecutive payments?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 03:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the terms have one payment to reserve a spot? Or was it a payment plan of consecutive payments?

You can choose either one of the two options. From the terms, it really wasn't well laid out, I'm curious what other people have experienced when they switched clubs, not just in my case.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 04:54 PM
If it’s a better opportunity then you have to do what’s best for your kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 06:18 PM
How are the teams after the A for YJ ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are the teams after the A for YJ ?

And how many on YJ A and B rosters?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 06:51 PM
way too many
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/01/21 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
way too many

26+?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/03/21 07:03 PM
one player?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/09/21 09:06 PM
If you switch clubs after you commit, you eat your down payment. I’ve never heard of anyone getting a refund…ever.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/11/21 11:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 01:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


They have the best model. Everyone makes a team. No cuts. Grazzy new girls in for a rude awakening traveling to DE turf for 3 games in Nov.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 03:27 AM
Best model to make a profit. 25 kids on a roster where you're playing games with 18 -22 minutes in a half = not much playing time for any kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 10:56 AM
Best roster size is 20...... 2 middie lines, 6 attack 6 defense and 2 goalies..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 12:11 PM
True. Especially since colleges are only taking 3-4 recruits from the latest classes, not the traditional 9-10. Money grab.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 07:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best roster size is 20...... 2 middie lines, 6 attack 6 defense and 2 goalies..
100%
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/13/21 11:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best model to make a profit. 25 kids on a roster where you're playing games with 18 -22 minutes in a half = not much playing time for any kid.
There will be plenty of playing time for the starters. The issue is the big bench. They will have little or no playing time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/14/21 11:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Best roster size is 20...... 2 middie lines, 6 attack 6 defense and 2 goalies..

In perfect world, yes, but this doesn't leave a lot of room for injuries or multi sport athletes missing a fall tournament.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/14/21 11:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 01:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

Which is the C team? Looks like they moved up several girls from the B team. Sorry for all those girls who will realize quickly only a small group get the minutes and coaches kids get the other minutes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/15/21 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

Which is the C team? Looks like they moved up several girls from the B team. Sorry for all those girls who will realize quickly only a small group get the minutes and coaches kids get the other minutes.
Piscitelli is the C/Nassau Team. It looks like only a couple girls were moved up. Any girl that is highlighted is someone who was not a YJ last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/18/21 03:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

Which is the C team? Looks like they moved up several girls from the B team. Sorry for all those girls who will realize quickly only a small group get the minutes and coaches kids get the other minutes.

Well the daddy and mommy are now the head coach and assistant and grazzy demoted to goalie coach? Lol. Sux for all those that kissed his Meanyand paid for those privates.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/18/21 04:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

Which is the C team? Looks like they moved up several girls from the B team. Sorry for all those girls who will realize quickly only a small group get the minutes and coaches kids get the other minutes.

Well the daddy and mommy are now the head coach and assistant and grazzy demoted to goalie coach? Lol. Sux for all those that kissed his Meanyand paid for those privates.
Hopefully daddy & Mommy make some changes, also can't believe he is still sticking around to be a goalie coach, how insulting is that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/18/21 10:24 PM
Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/18/21 11:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

Which is the C team? Looks like they moved up several girls from the B team. Sorry for all those girls who will realize quickly only a small group get the minutes and coaches kids get the other minutes.

Well the daddy and mommy are now the head coach and assistant and grazzy demoted to goalie coach? Lol. Sux for all those that kissed his Meanyand paid for those privates.

Doesn’t seem to have deterred people from going to yellow jackets. Picking up 22 girls is a lot. Have any of the other clubs picked up that many? None have 3 teams. And some of the other teams seem to have very tight rosters and their B teams are on life support. Not a YJ parent but people seem to want to flock there. Looking at the numbers for the year up they didn’t seem to take as many new girls. Wonder why this age is so hot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/18/21 11:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/19/21 01:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
Mommy is Leonard, and agree with above , she should be head coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/19/21 12:33 PM
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/19/21 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/20/21 02:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
Mommy is Leonard, and agree with above , she should be head coach.

It's a girls team. Choose the qualified female coach with a very impressive background in the sport. It's actually insulting, especially coming from a female club owner. The daddy coach has zero lacrosse experience, not even a former mens player. What qualifies him? Not a great lesson for the girls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
Mommy is Leonard, and agree with above , she should be head coach.

It's a girls team. Choose the qualified female coach with a very impressive background in the sport. It's actually insulting, especially coming from a female club owner. The daddy coach has zero lacrosse experience, not even a former mens player. What qualifies him? Not a great lesson for the girls.

Before you go jumping on the Leonard band wagon. Find out why she was fired from Mount Sinai? I mean she brought them to the finals and out of nowhere gone after they lost…… Ohhhh don’t forget how she left the 2027 Team 91 girls team in shambles giving them a few hours notice before she bolted for YJ 2027 tryouts. Quality coaching at its best….. Team Grazzy all the way!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 05:09 PM
sounds like she'll fit right in over there
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/21/21 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
Mommy is Leonard, and agree with above , she should be head coach.

It's a girls team. Choose the qualified female coach with a very impressive background in the sport. It's actually insulting, especially coming from a female club owner. The daddy coach has zero lacrosse experience, not even a former mens player. What qualifies him? Not a great lesson for the girls.

Before you go jumping on the Leonard band wagon. Find out why she was fired from Mount Sinai? I mean she brought them to the finals and out of nowhere gone after they lost…… Ohhhh don’t forget how she left the 2027 Team 91 girls team in shambles giving them a few hours notice before she bolted for YJ 2027 tryouts. Quality coaching at its best….. Team Grazzy all the way!

Mommyball at its finest then. Sounds like she went where it was best for her kid, regardless of the impact on the team. Other parents should beware.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/22/21 12:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the “Mommy” and “Daddy” YJ coaches?

YJ Stads now. Aka daddy. Mommy is the assistant but should be head coach. At least she played a high level.
Mommy is Leonard, and agree with above , she should be head coach.

It's a girls team. Choose the qualified female coach with a very impressive background in the sport. It's actually insulting, especially coming from a female club owner. The daddy coach has zero lacrosse experience, not even a former mens player. What qualifies him? Not a great lesson for the girls.

Before you go jumping on the Leonard band wagon. Find out why she was fired from Mount Sinai? I mean she brought them to the finals and out of nowhere gone after they lost…… Ohhhh don’t forget how she left the 2027 Team 91 girls team in shambles giving them a few hours notice before she bolted for YJ 2027 tryouts. Quality coaching at its best….. Team Grazzy all the way!
Quality and Grazzy should not be in the same sentence.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 02:07 AM
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 12:03 PM
You can see the rankings/record here for last year....https://www.USCL.com/rank?y=2020&alpha=N&v=2027
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

I wouldn’t base my decision on an organization solely based on wins and losses. There was a lot of movement this year so some of the teams that are on that list will get better & some will be worse and teams that aren’t on the list yet may make it this year. Take everything on this page with a grain of salt. Lots of smack talk and disgruntled parents. Invest time in going to see some games. Talk to parents with kids on the team. Being a bench player on an A team isn’t worth the time and money. Being on a B team isn’t always bad. You want your kid to get better year over year and get time on the field. YJ has some strong teams. But at what cost? They seem to only play their top 14 or so and carry 24 on a roster. FLG is the same. Sure they both win a lot but half the team sits. Liberty was next in the ranks but lost a lot of top talent this year because of nonsense that went on. Empire and Elevate added talent because people have had enough of the nonsense in other organizations. Jesters has 3 teams. 2 which some will say aren’t competitive and are straight money grabs. S2S is new to the arena but went from 1 2027 team to 2. They added some solid coaches and seem to be up and coming. Pick what fits your kid and your lifestyle. Is she a 1 sport kid? Does she want to be at lax practice 4 days a week? Do you want to pay extra for “voluntary” practices. Are you ok with tournaments away every weekend in the summer? Do the research.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 07:15 PM
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 07:40 PM
Anyone know what happened to the YJ B team player whose Dad is a cop, crazy on the sidelines? Looks like they are not on the new YJ rosters. Wonder if the Dad had anything to do with that or they left voluntarily?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 08:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 08:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 09:35 PM
FLG carries 18 and they all play and play multiple positions.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/23/21 11:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

Maybe but the point is you now have the north shore and manhasset varsity coaches there. If you don’t think that’s going to draw those girls in you are crazy. But time will tell right? Seems like every year is going to be the year of a lot of kids moving and that always seems to fall apart. Obviously still multiple yj teams and flg navy. The rest will play itself out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 02:11 AM
S2S will be mediocre for years. you kind of need a superteam to make a splash. they had that on the boys side and it attracted a lot of kids. Girls.....let's hope that its not just a money grab and their kids actually improve.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 11:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
S2S will be mediocre for years. you kind of need a superteam to make a splash. they had that on the boys side and it attracted a lot of kids. Girls.....let's hope that its not just a money grab and their kids actually improve.

How many boys clubs have been able to build a top notch girls program that got girls recruited into top schools? Express? FLG? 91? Girls teams are a total money grab for these clubs, hs coach or not.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 11:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

Volume does not equal quality. You have to look at the level of the play and what kind of girls they’re drawing in. I know a large number of them never played club or lax for that matter. That doesn’t mean it’s not a valuable opp for those girls. But it won’t be a legit club for a while, if it gets there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

If the top players left, it’s an indicator that the parents didn’t see the team going anywhere. Parents leave when they know their kids can do better. Not a good sign for Liberty.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 01:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

Volume does not equal quality. You have to look at the level of the play and what kind of girls they’re drawing in. I know a large number of them never played club or lax for that matter. That doesn’t mean it’s not a valuable opp for those girls. But it won’t be a legit club for a while, if it gets there.

You know the large number of girls never played how? Liberty just took some that have never played before on their A team. So did Empire. What does it say for those established clubs? I think if you can come off a 1st season with a terrible record and still attract girls to a club it says something. The liberty B team is walk on and has been around awhile and still didn’t get a lot of girls to sign up this year. Speaks volumes. My kid doesn’t play for S2S so I guess this season will tell if they improved or not. I think the amount of movement seen this years shows that people aren’t happy and will go elsewhere.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 02:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

If the top players left, it’s an indicator that the parents didn’t see the team going anywhere. Parents leave when they know their kids can do better. Not a good sign for Liberty.

Agree but also there a decent amount of delusional parents out there that think the grass is greener, my kid is better than that kid, etc. don’t know who or why people left. I did hear 2 or 3 age groups at liberty that rosters bordering on not enough kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

If the top players left, it’s an indicator that the parents didn’t see the team going anywhere. Parents leave when they know their kids can do better. Not a good sign for Liberty.

Agree but also there a decent amount of delusional parents out there that think the grass is greener, my kid is better than that kid, etc. don’t know who or why people left. I did hear 2 or 3 age groups at liberty that rosters bordering on not enough kids.

The Liberty 2024 team did pick up some very good players. That team will be very strong and perhaps could help the clubs reputation ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 05:57 PM
You mean big draw from the prints hoping said coach give their daughter an advantage when they make varsity, most 7th grade girls not know about the varsity coaches yet.

Btw who coaches the 2027 S2S teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/24/21 07:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You mean big draw from the prints hoping said coach give their daughter an advantage when they make varsity, most 7th grade girls not know about the varsity coaches yet.

Btw who coaches the 2027 S2S teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

You seem angry about this. I think many parents are aware of who coaches at their high schools. Some may have older daughters. Doesn’t mean you get an advantage when they get to high school per se but learning from someone who will be your future coach isn’t a bad thing. All the coaches are listed on their Instagram. I think the biggest take away is that S2S staffed up with quality coaches. People that do this for a living. Not just people that played in college. May mean nothing for them but it may work out. Time will tell.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 12:42 AM
We don’t play for Liberty but am in Central nassau and did go to there summer lacrosse clinics that DG organizes. Most of the girls we played with during the clinics played on Liberty and were friendly with my kid. They also had a couple of BC players there from championship team and cuse players ad well. Both were running some of the clinic. Don’t think they have parent coaching either so may transition to them next year. Am intrigued by S2S given the coaching but not sure where they practice. Want to avoid going to North Shore or Glen Head etc for practice. Would be great is someone knows the general location of practices (am near Mineola)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 02:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We don’t play for Liberty but am in Central nassau and did go to there summer lacrosse clinics that DG organizes. Most of the girls we played with during the clinics played on Liberty and were friendly with my kid. They also had a couple of BC players there from championship team and cuse players ad well. Both were running some of the clinic. Don’t think they have parent coaching either so may transition to them next year. Am intrigued by S2S given the coaching but not sure where they practice. Want to avoid going to North Shore or Glen Head etc for practice. Would be great is someone knows the general location of practices (am near Mineola)

Holy child in old westbury and some training sessions in port Washington. Winters are at the hub. Results aside (they were not good last year) my daughter enjoyed it and I thought the instruction and coaching was good. Looks like they made some good additions but we’ll see what happens this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 03:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We don’t play for Liberty but am in Central nassau and did go to there summer lacrosse clinics that DG organizes. Most of the girls we played with during the clinics played on Liberty and were friendly with my kid. They also had a couple of BC players there from championship team and cuse players ad well. Both were running some of the clinic. Don’t think they have parent coaching either so may transition to them next year. Am intrigued by S2S given the coaching but not sure where they practice. Want to avoid going to North Shore or Glen Head etc for practice. Would be great is someone knows the general location of practices (am near Mineola)

S2S practices at old westbury
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 03:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We don’t play for Liberty but am in Central nassau and did go to there summer lacrosse clinics that DG organizes. Most of the girls we played with during the clinics played on Liberty and were friendly with my kid. They also had a couple of BC players there from championship team and cuse players ad well. Both were running some of the clinic. Don’t think they have parent coaching either so may transition to them next year. Am intrigued by S2S given the coaching but not sure where they practice. Want to avoid going to North Shore or Glen Head etc for practice. Would be great is someone knows the general location of practices (am near Mineola)

Where do you currently play and why are you looking to switch? Just curious, I'm doing research for my daughter too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/25/21 09:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We don’t play for Liberty but am in Central nassau and did go to there summer lacrosse clinics that DG organizes. Most of the girls we played with during the clinics played on Liberty and were friendly with my kid. They also had a couple of BC players there from championship team and cuse players ad well. Both were running some of the clinic. Don’t think they have parent coaching either so may transition to them next year. Am intrigued by S2S given the coaching but not sure where they practice. Want to avoid going to North Shore or Glen Head etc for practice. Would be great is someone knows the general location of practices (am near Mineola)

Where do you currently play and why are you looking to switch? Just curious, I'm doing research for my daughter too.

Icon lax because close to home and daughters best friend was in team. just looking for more practice time during week, skill development and better coaching like everyone else. Just need a step up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/26/21 12:24 AM
I thought icon didn’t have a 27 team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/26/21 12:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/26/21 12:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought icon didn’t have a 27 team

We are younger just saw someone discuss Liberty in an earlier thread so jumped in
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/26/21 02:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/27/21 01:28 AM
Great merch
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/27/21 11:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

hahahh.

For those in Nassau, what clubs would you consider?
From various threads, I would gather Jesters, Liberty, Tradition is you live in GC? Any other clubs that I’m missing? TG and YJ suffolk seems a bit of a hike tbh. appreciate any insight. Thank you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/27/21 11:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

hahahh.

For those in Nassau, what clubs would you consider?
From various threads, I would gather Jesters, Liberty, Tradition is you live in GC? Any other clubs that I’m missing? TG and YJ suffolk seems a bit of a hike tbh. appreciate any insight. Thank you.

Jesters has put a lot of effort into growth and development lately. They offer a lot of training and non parent coaching. They look like a great option for Nassau people. The directors are very committed and roster sizes are smaller than YJs
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/27/21 01:39 PM
In Nassau you also have Elevate, Empire and FLG, Suffolk your missing Legacy, Blue Devils and 91/Bandits. For the most part this is a pretty competitive age group, where YJ Graz and FLG are at the top currently.

Take it with a grain of salt, but looking at US Club Rankings for LI at end of last season, heres where the LI teams ended up in the top 100:
#6 YJ Graz
#9 FLG Navy
#20 Liberty Black
#30 Empire
#31 YJ Gaghan
#36 Top Gun
#45 Jesters
#46 Elevate
#70 Blue Devils
#71 YJ Palermo
#72 Legacy
#80 LI Rush
#86 FLG White
#90 91/Bandits

Knowing those teams, unless something changed from last year, YJ Graz, YJ Gaghan, FLG Navy, Liberty Black, and Empire all have current or former Varsity coaches coaching those teams. I'm unsure who coaches the other teams so I can't speak about them, but in all cases there are a ton of good girls at this age playing quality lacrosse, and that's a great thing!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/27/21 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In Nassau you also have Elevate, Empire and FLG, Suffolk your missing Legacy, Blue Devils and 91/Bandits. For the most part this is a pretty competitive age group, where YJ Graz and FLG are at the top currently.

Take it with a grain of salt, but looking at US Club Rankings for LI at end of last season, heres where the LI teams ended up in the top 100:
#6 YJ Graz
#9 FLG Navy
#20 Liberty Black
#30 Empire
#31 YJ Gaghan
#36 Top Gun
#45 Jesters
#46 Elevate
#70 Blue Devils
#71 YJ Palermo
#72 Legacy
#80 LI Rush
#86 FLG White
#90 91/Bandits

Knowing those teams, unless something changed from last year, YJ Graz, YJ Gaghan, FLG Navy, Liberty Black, and Empire all have current or former Varsity coaches coaching those teams. I'm unsure who coaches the other teams so I can't speak about them, but in all cases there are a ton of good girls at this age playing quality lacrosse, and that's a great thing!


Ahh Thank you so much!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/27/21 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In Nassau you also have Elevate, Empire and FLG, Suffolk your missing Legacy, Blue Devils and 91/Bandits. For the most part this is a pretty competitive age group, where YJ Graz and FLG are at the top currently.

Take it with a grain of salt, but looking at US Club Rankings for LI at end of last season, heres where the LI teams ended up in the top 100:
#6 YJ Graz
#9 FLG Navy
#20 Liberty Black
#30 Empire
#31 YJ Gaghan
#36 Top Gun
#45 Jesters
#46 Elevate
#70 Blue Devils
#71 YJ Palermo
#72 Legacy
#80 LI Rush
#86 FLG White
#90 91/Bandits

Knowing those teams, unless something changed from last year, YJ Graz, YJ Gaghan, FLG Navy, Liberty Black, and Empire all have current or former Varsity coaches coaching those teams. I'm unsure who coaches the other teams so I can't speak about them, but in all cases there are a ton of good girls at this age playing quality lacrosse, and that's a great thing!

Thanks for the list. Nice to see teams in Nassau ranked. The trek to suffolk is rough
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/27/21 08:39 PM
Can someone please explain the purpose of the 7v7 tournaments? Does it provide for a more high speed game? Numbers on rosters too low? or something else.
Why can’t we just play in regular tournaments with full rosters and players on field?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/27/21 09:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone please explain the purpose of the 7v7 tournaments? Does it provide for a more high speed game? Numbers on rosters too low? or something else.
Why can’t we just play in regular tournaments with full rosters and players on field?

Smaller fields, so they can be played at smaller venues... you can get 3 7v7 fields across one standard field. Its a location thing. Secondarily, the idea is for faster play and more touches considering there are less girls in smaller spaces.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/27/21 10:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
In Nassau you also have Elevate, Empire and FLG, Suffolk your missing Legacy, Blue Devils and 91/Bandits. For the most part this is a pretty competitive age group, where YJ Graz and FLG are at the top currently.

Take it with a grain of salt, but looking at US Club Rankings for LI at end of last season, heres where the LI teams ended up in the top 100:
#6 YJ Graz
#9 FLG Navy
#20 Liberty Black
#30 Empire
#31 YJ Gaghan
#36 Top Gun
#45 Jesters
#46 Elevate
#70 Blue Devils
#71 YJ Palermo
#72 Legacy
#80 LI Rush
#86 FLG White
#90 91/Bandits

Knowing those teams, unless something changed from last year, YJ Graz, YJ Gaghan, FLG Navy, Liberty Black, and Empire all have current or former Varsity coaches coaching those teams. I'm unsure who coaches the other teams so I can't speak about them, but in all cases there are a ton of good girls at this age playing quality lacrosse, and that's a great thing!

Thanks for the list. Nice to see teams in Nassau ranked. The trek to suffolk is rough
take the rankings with a gratin if salt. These will change up this year with all the movement.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/27/21 11:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone please explain the purpose of the 7v7 tournaments? Does it provide for a more high speed game? Numbers on rosters too low? or something else.
Why can’t we just play in regular tournaments with full rosters and players on field?

Smaller fields, so they can be played at smaller venues... you can get 3 7v7 fields across one standard field. Its a location thing. Secondarily, the idea is for faster play and more touches considering there are less girls in smaller spaces.

So, really it’s a method to get more teams playing and can make more $s? 7v7s seem like a waste for girls over 5th grade? It’s just quick to goal , seems to be no real game play? Field too small fur older girls…?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/28/21 12:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone please explain the purpose of the 7v7 tournaments? Does it provide for a more high speed game? Numbers on rosters too low? or something else.
Why can’t we just play in regular tournaments with full rosters and players on field?

Smaller fields, so they can be played at smaller venues... you can get 3 7v7 fields across one standard field. Its a location thing. Secondarily, the idea is for faster play and more touches considering there are less girls in smaller spaces.

So, really it’s a method to get more teams playing and can make more $s? 7v7s seem like a waste for girls over 5th grade? It’s just quick to goal , seems to be no real game play? Field too small fur older girls…?

Yes 7v7 is a bastardized version of the sport....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/28/21 01:18 AM
7v7 is good to teach quicker decision making, outside of that it's fairly awful. Most teams will split their rosters for 7v7. Some fall tourneys are full field normal games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/28/21 01:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
7v7 is good to teach quicker decision making, outside of that it's fairly awful. Most teams will split their rosters for 7v7. Some fall tourneys are full field normal games.

I see the benefit for the younger girls. I think the Older more experienced girls should be full field, real game situations.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/28/21 02:41 AM
7v7 is for tournament directors to make $$ in the fall and for teams not to worry about missing players due to soccer and other fall sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/28/21 12:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

YJ is ranked #6 nationally, "they don't win"? Really?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/28/21 02:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

YJ is ranked #6 nationally, "they don't win"? Really?[/quote

They beat they #1, #2, and #3 teams in July. They win, people spread fake news
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/28/21 03:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone please explain the purpose of the 7v7 tournaments? Does it provide for a more high speed game? Numbers on rosters too low? or something else.
Why can’t we just play in regular tournaments with full rosters and players on field?

Smaller fields, so they can be played at smaller venues... you can get 3 7v7 fields across one standard field. Its a location thing. Secondarily, the idea is for faster play and more touches considering there are less girls in smaller spaces.

So, really it’s a method to get more teams playing and can make more $s? 7v7s seem like a waste for girls over 5th grade? It’s just quick to goal , seems to be no real game play? Field too small fur older girls…?

My youngest on a 4th grade team last year that had 19 girls in the team. We did the 7v7 in port washington. They did not split the roster and playing time was less than ideal. ugh!!!! Not a fan
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 01:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

YJ is ranked #6 nationally, "they don't win"? Really?[/quote

They beat they #1, #2, and #3 teams in July. They win, people spread fake news

national rankings. lol. And also lost to those teams all year plus several others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 10:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

YJ is ranked #6 nationally, "they don't win"? Really?[/quote

They beat they #1, #2, and #3 teams in July. They win, people spread fake news

national rankings. lol. And also lost to those teams all year plus several others.

I think the original intention of that post was to provide for teams on LI and guide another poster to teams in Nassau (think they mentioned take with grain of salt). Otherwise, thanks to poster for posting rankings teams. Am now aware of other options in Nassau. Thank you
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 02:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

If true then why do people stay? Just for the name?

YJ is ranked #6 nationally, "they don't win"? Really?[/quote

They beat they #1, #2, and #3 teams in July. They win, people spread fake news

national rankings. lol. And also lost to those teams all year plus several others.

Evidently you don't follow the 2027age group closely.

I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 03:18 PM
[

Evidently you don't follow the 2027age group closely.

I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.[/quote]

Who cares! All these girls are playing high level lacrosse and not playing video games or making out with dudes behind the local Stop and Shop! Many of you living vicariously through your 12 year old daughters are going to be miserable when you have driven your daughters away from an amazing sport. Sit back, eat a sandwich, just watch your kids play and shut your meat hole!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 03:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 03:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
way too many

26+?

The YJ rosters are posted online. They have 3 teams of 25, 25, and 24. Looks like across the 3 teams they picked up 22 new players. No clue where they all came from but that is a lot of movement.


Looking at Graz, 9 girls did not return, either left YJ or in many cases, are now on B or C team.

For the 9 that left, curious where they went? FLG?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 03:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[

Evidently you don't follow the 2027age group closely.

I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.

Who cares! All these girls are playing high level lacrosse and not playing video games or making out with dudes behind the local Stop and Shop! Many of you living vicariously through your 12 year old daughters are going to be miserable when you have driven your daughters away from an amazing sport. Sit back, eat a sandwich, just watch your kids play and shut your meat hole![/quote]

Who cares about rankings? I'd imagine the type of people that go to a lacrosse forum on 12 yr old lacrosse players and read it.

I'm just responding to the post about how YJ 27 "don't win". If this isn't you, kindly move on from the topic, thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 04:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[

Evidently you don't follow the 2027age group closely.

I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.

Who cares! All these girls are playing high level lacrosse and not playing video games or making out with dudes behind the local Stop and Shop! Many of you living vicariously through your 12 year old daughters are going to be miserable when you have driven your daughters away from an amazing sport. Sit back, eat a sandwich, just watch your kids play and shut your meat hole!

Who cares about rankings? I'd imagine the type of people that go to a lacrosse forum on 12 yr old lacrosse players and read it.

I'm just responding to the post about how YJ 27 "don't win". If this isn't you, kindly move on from the topic, thanks.[/quote]


It certainly isn't me !! I read this forum for the pure entertainment that it provides. Grown men talking about how good/bad their 12 year old daughters lacrosse team or competition is! It's comedy at its finest!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 04:23 PM
I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.[/quote]

Thanks for absolutely confirming you are a YJ parent....either that or it is insanely scary you know stats for a 12 year old lacrosse team and how it faired given you aren't even associated with them or live on LI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 04:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.
I don't think anyone moved up on this team. They also gained a few girls from the A team. I think this team will be very competitive
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 05:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not a YJ parent, Im not even a Long Island parent, but beating a M&D team that went 44-5 or beating a Hero's team (TWICE) that went 42-6, is a heck of an accomplishment.
They lost 4 times all year to teams at the 2027 level. To say "they don't win" is absurdity.

Thanks for absolutely confirming you are a YJ parent....either that or it is insanely scary you know stats for a 12 year old lacrosse team and how it faired given you aren't even associated with them or live on LI.[/quote]

It took all of one click if you go to

https://USCL.com/rank?y=2020&alpha=N&v=2027

Its all right there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.

That may be a little unfair. They had 6-8 girls who could start for most NY/NY A teams. That said, they had 5-6 girls on the team who should have been playing rec. If they upgrade talent here, the team could be top 25 nationally
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/29/21 11:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.

That may be a little unfair. They had 6-8 girls who could start for most NY/NY A teams. That said, they had 5-6 girls on the team who should have been playing rec. If they upgrade talent here, the team could be top 25 nationally


This past year wasn’t indicative of how the teams will be this coming year. Some teams didn’t have tryouts last summer so they were based on when the girls tried out in 5th grade. There was a ton of movement across all the teams so it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. My guess is YJ A, YJ B, TG and FLG will be the strongest in this age group on LI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/30/21 01:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.

That may be a little unfair. They had 6-8 girls who could start for most NY/NY A teams. That said, they had 5-6 girls on the team who should have been playing rec. If they upgrade talent here, the team could be top 25 nationally


This past year wasn’t indicative of how the teams will be this coming year. Some teams didn’t have tryouts last summer so they were based on when the girls tried out in 5th grade. There was a ton of movement across all the teams so it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. My guess is YJ A, YJ B, TG and FLG will be the strongest in this age group on LI.

Probably right. FLG losing their goalie to YJ A will be a big impact.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/30/21 03:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The 27 year is very talented across the board on multiple clubs on the island. Much more so than 2026 for some reason.


There is a steep drop off in the 27 year right now. FLG/YJ and the. Everyone else. Liberty was at the top of that everyone else but their team took a big hit this year so it will be interesting to see how the rest group looks at the end of next summer.

As for the differences between years, that always happens. Maybe the 26 year is a big soccer year.

With all the “optional” trainings that really aren’t optional makes it hard to play multiple travel sports. Kids are sadly being forced to choose.

I watched YJ 27 B team last year (Gaghan) and it was a 2 girl teams. Assuming both girls moved either to A team or somewhere else, i can't see this team being competitive at all. Not sure I see the depth at the 27 level.

That may be a little unfair. They had 6-8 girls who could start for most NY/NY A teams. That said, they had 5-6 girls on the team who should have been playing rec. If they upgrade talent here, the team could be top 25 nationally


This past year wasn’t indicative of how the teams will be this coming year. Some teams didn’t have tryouts last summer so they were based on when the girls tried out in 5th grade. There was a ton of movement across all the teams so it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. My guess is YJ A, YJ B, TG and FLG will be the strongest in this age group on LI.

Probably right. FLG losing their goalie to YJ A will be a big impact.

For sure. YJA needed a goalie upgrade
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/30/21 09:38 AM
Probably right. FLG losing their goalie to YJ A will be a big impact.[/quote]


Nope!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/30/21 05:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Probably right. FLG losing their goalie to YJ A will be a big impact.


Nope![/quote]

I don't think we need to callout 12 yr olds do we? You can talk up the FLG goalie all you want, but as adults with players on these teams, can we be better than this?

BTW, she's a solid player.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/30/21 06:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Probably right. FLG losing their goalie to YJ A will be a big impact.


Nope!

I don't think we need to callout 12 yr olds do we? You can talk up the FLG goalie all you want, but as adults with players on these teams, can we be better than this?

BTW, she's a solid player.[/quote]

Don't think anyone was trying to knock the goalie. If they have a second goalie how much of an impact would losing one make is what they were trying to say?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/30/21 06:49 PM
YJA needing a goalie upgrade. Now that's calling out a particular player!! Ridiculous!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 09/30/21 06:58 PM
She’s probably a great kid unlike all of you grown men talking about 7th grade lacrosse, get a life…
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/08/21 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/08/21 06:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

This is an honest, solid assessment of YJ. It’s a very specific model that doesn’t work for everyone. There is limited training (compare the clinics YJ offers vs any other club). You join for the brand and exposure but not development. And they will really only push the A team later on. The other teams are there to pad the accounts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/08/21 07:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

This is an honest, solid assessment of YJ. It’s a very specific model that doesn’t work for everyone. There is limited training (compare the clinics YJ offers vs any other club). You join for the brand and exposure but not development. And they will really only push the A team later on. The other teams are there to pad the accounts.

agreed with all of this. Most of the girls making the trip from Nassau to YJ have generally joined the team once they were above average lax players. Most mentioned skill development was lacking but 100% top exposure
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/08/21 08:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

This is an honest, solid assessment of YJ. It’s a very specific model that doesn’t work for everyone. There is limited training (compare the clinics YJ offers vs any other club). You join for the brand and exposure but not development. And they will really only push the A team later on. The other teams are there to pad the accounts.

agreed with all of this. Most of the girls making the trip from Nassau to YJ have generally joined the team once they were above average lax players. Most mentioned skill development was lacking but 100% top exposure

Which prob. Means some of the top players at YJ started somewhere else or went out and got their own training? So, if my daughter very young - I should start her with a club that has more development and training? See how that goes and possibly move later for the exposure?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/08/21 09:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

This is an honest, solid assessment of YJ. It’s a very specific model that doesn’t work for everyone. There is limited training (compare the clinics YJ offers vs any other club). You join for the brand and exposure but not development. And they will really only push the A team later on. The other teams are there to pad the accounts.

agreed with all of this. Most of the girls making the trip from Nassau to YJ have generally joined the team once they were above average lax players. Most mentioned skill development was lacking but 100% top exposure

Which prob. Means some of the top players at YJ started somewhere else or went out and got their own training? So, if my daughter very young - I should start her with a club that has more development and training? See how that goes and possibly move later for the exposure?


Previous poster here. I wouldn't consider YJ for a good lacrosse playing girl under 8th or maybe 7th grade. Lots of teams out there will better instruction. (One key caveat is that YJ is much more accepting of multi sport athletes than other clubs -- they will never bench someone for missing a practice). You just don't want your daughter to be the best player on her team.

Challenge is that some of the better long island teams don't play outside NY until 7th or 8th grade. Top Guns play NGLL against top Westchester and Jersey teams which is some of the best competition. The shame is that the top 3 Westchester club programs do so much better than the LI ones on player development.

Empire and Liberty probably send the most middle school girls to YJ over time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/09/21 02:54 AM
Empire does a great job developing girls, I have been with the club for the last 2 years and am very happy with them, the head coach is a varsity coach and also the director and my daughter loves playing for him!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/09/21 02:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

Stop with the BS, this is a LI forum, Prime Time is an excellent program, but theyre in westchester. YJ teams are legit. The top team is very good, and their 2nd team would beat most A teams.

Jesters mentioned in this conversation is ridiculous, their 2027 team is average at best and can’t compete currently on LI let alone nationally.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/09/21 01:19 PM
At this age you should be watching to see if your kid is getting better. Travel lax isn’t cheap. Be on a team that is working on her skills. She doesn’t need exposure yet she is 12. If she develops the talent needed to play at the next level she will find a school to play at. If you need to pay for a ton of extra lessons on top of travel costs you should reevaluate the team she is on and what your end game will be. Not every kid is a rockstar.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/09/21 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

Stop with the BS, this is a LI forum, Prime Time is an excellent program, but theyre in westchester. YJ teams are legit. The top team is very good, and their 2nd team would beat most A teams.

Jesters mentioned in this conversation is ridiculous, their 2027 team is average at best and can’t compete currently on LI let alone nationally.

Rude. The earlier poster's comments are fair. He/she did not ever said YJ is not legit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/09/21 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At this age you should be watching to see if your kid is getting better. Travel lax isn’t cheap. Be on a team that is working on her skills. She doesn’t need exposure yet she is 12. If she develops the talent needed to play at the next level she will find a school to play at. If you need to pay for a ton of extra lessons on top of travel costs you should reevaluate the team she is on and what your end game will be. Not every kid is a rockstar.


Well said! Too many people get caught up in a name as opposed To what is actually going on with their daughter
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/09/21 08:25 PM
YJA and FLG wouldn't be top two teams on Long Island without having the top goalies on Long Island. Both teams will be just fine.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/09/21 08:28 PM
Plenty of grown women in here too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/09/21 11:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA and FLG wouldn't be top two teams on Long Island without having the top goalies on Long Island. Both teams will be just fine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA and FLG wouldn't be top two teams on Long Island without having the top goalies on Long Island. Both teams will be just fine.

Seeing FLG just lost one of their goalies to YJ A not so sure they will be fine. The slow bleed continues….
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/10/21 07:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

YJ talent is off the charts. The fact they don’t win is a reflection directly on the coaching. Just look at all these pickup teams full of YJ girls coached by volunteers. They rarely lose. Just imagine if this team had qualified coaches…..

Its less about having quality coaches and more about how the team is managed. For better or worse, most YJ program past 5th grade operate like a traditional high school club program where there is minimal practice and practices are focused on set plays, defense rotations and not much on core skill development.

This makes sense for them since almost all of the girls (on the A team at least) have outside coaches. This is one of the key reasons their B teams at the middle school level often struggle across a season and girls who get added to the team each year usually come from other clubs.

There are lots of 5-star recruits who started club lacrosse as average lacrosse player with unreal athleticism. And then the club team develops you. This rarely happens at YJ. If you look at the top MD clubs, they promote multiple players from their B team nearly every year.

If you are looking for skill development, YJ is probably not the best club. If you are looking for exposure, it is. In terms of top NY clubs, Prime Time and Jesters are the one who probably place the most emphasis on player development, especially at the youth level.

Please keep in mind I am not a YJ hater. I just think parents who are new to the sport or have kids in other sports need to understand how the model works.

Stop with the BS, this is a LI forum, Prime Time is an excellent program, but theyre in westchester. YJ teams are legit. The top team is very good, and their 2nd team would beat most A teams.

Jesters mentioned in this conversation is ridiculous, their 2027 team is average at best and can’t compete currently on LI let alone nationally.

This is a long island forum? I guess Northeast Lacrosse equals long island, then.

Also, the discussion was about player development, not the top teams. If Jesters and Empire are such bad programs why did YJ add 4 players to their 27 A team from them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/11/21 11:21 PM
Jesters, Empire and Legacy are awful. At this age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/12/21 03:44 PM
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/12/21 05:04 PM
Yesterday was a 7v7. Very possible they were not all that Grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/13/21 04:02 PM
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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/13/21 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/13/21 09:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/14/21 02:41 AM
4 yj teams, 3 flg, 2 S2s, 3 jesters teams. Where did all these teams come from?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/14/21 09:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
4 yj teams, 3 flg, 2 S2s, 3 jesters teams. Where did all these teams come from?


FLG only has 2 teams. Remember for 7v7 some clubs split their teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/14/21 11:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/14/21 12:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.

ok YJ Dad! thanks for letting us all know they are "second to none" multiple times....outside YJA I'm not really sure what the heck you are talking about
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/14/21 12:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
4 yj teams, 3 flg, 2 S2s, 3 jesters teams. Where did all these teams come from?


FLG only has 2 teams. Remember for 7v7 some clubs split their teams

FLG has 3 teams entered in Queen of the Island on the 30th
Blue Devils, Navy and White. Not a 7v7 tourney
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/14/21 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.

ok YJ Dad! thanks for letting us all know they are "second to none" multiple times....outside YJA I'm not really sure what the heck you are talking about

Aces Elite is the best shooting team I've seen at 2027 level. #2 on Aces is a special talent.
YJ A right up there of course, though I think they tend to press.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/14/21 02:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
4 yj teams, 3 flg, 2 S2s, 3 jesters teams. Where did all these teams come from?


FLG only has 2 teams. Remember for 7v7 some clubs split their teams

FLG has 3 teams entered in Queen of the Island on the 30th
Blue Devils, Navy and White. Not a 7v7 tourney

They've done this before and referred to the "3rd" team as Carolina (in addition to Navy and White) but FLG only has two teams - they split them up to get additional play time in that tourney
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/14/21 02:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
4 yj teams, 3 flg, 2 S2s, 3 jesters teams. Where did all these teams come from?


FLG only has 2 teams. Remember for 7v7 some clubs split their teams

FLG has 3 teams entered in Queen of the Island on the 30th
Blue Devils, Navy and White. Not a 7v7 tourney

They've done this before and referred to the "3rd" team as Carolina (in addition to Navy and White) but FLG only has two teams - they split them up to get additional play time in that tourney


Interesting. How big are the rosters that they can afford to do this?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/14/21 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.

ok YJ Dad! thanks for letting us all know they are "second to none" multiple times....outside YJA I'm not really sure what the heck you are talking about



Hmmmm, reading comprehension problem? Obviously not a YJ dad. Maybe have a fourth grader read it for you. Geeez
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/14/21 04:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.

ok YJ Dad! thanks for letting us all know they are "second to none" multiple times....outside YJA I'm not really sure what the heck you are talking about



Hmmmm, reading comprehension problem? Obviously not a YJ dad. Maybe have a fourth grader read it for you. Geeez

clearly was referring to the two "second to none" follow up posts...not sure who has the reading comprehension problem but thanks for your two cents....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/14/21 09:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Watching YJ A play my daughter's team yesterday, the biggest thing I noticed was not stick-skills, IQ or coaching (I'm not saying they didn't have talent, they did).

It was physical maturity. In 7th grade, some girls are girls and some are young women. YJ had a lot of young women and the difference was very obvious.


Agreed. What usually sets youth YJ teams apart is physical maturity, speed and shooting abiilty. Lots of team have really good stickwork, but no youth teams shoot like YJ.

I dont think the 27s have the speed of past YJ youth teams, but there size (especially in midfield) and shooting ability is second to none. Not as much speed on this team. Not to say they are slow, but the last two YJ A teams could just fly past opponents when they were in 7th grade.


YJ teams have the physically mature teams and No youth teams shoot like YJ. They are second to none. Is this your first go-round in wlax?? Cmon man!!! Are you serious ?? This will be a fun thread to watch in the future.

ok YJ Dad! thanks for letting us all know they are "second to none" multiple times....outside YJA I'm not really sure what the heck you are talking about



Hmmmm, reading comprehension problem? Obviously not a YJ dad. Maybe have a fourth grader read it for you. Geeez

clearly was referring to the two "second to none" follow up posts...not sure who has the reading comprehension problem but thanks for your two cents....


So let me get this straight. Some folks have their panties in a bunch over a post saying YJ have the best shooters at this age level in long island.

Some folks just looking for a fight.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/16/21 01:52 PM
FLG has a 3rd team. They bought another club. Blur Devils I think.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/16/21 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG has a 3rd team. They bought another club. Blur Devils I think.

Wasn't that 91?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/16/21 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG has a 3rd team. They bought another club. Blur Devils I think.

Wasn't that 91?

FLG merged with Blue Devil. 91 merged with Bandit
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/16/21 06:05 PM
91 bought the Brookhaven bandits
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/16/21 08:54 PM
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 12:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Liberty black is terrible
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 01:52 AM
Flg has small roster 16-18 players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 01:58 AM
North Shore Elite is a pickup team consisting of a large group of yj kids, I believe.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 02:22 AM
Sounds like someone got cut/demoted from Liberty.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 02:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Pick up team basically - lots of YJ
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 02:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Liberty black is terrible

That may be true and they seem to make sure they ply in tournaments they can win. Rumor I they pulled out of Queen of the Island. Don’t want to get showed up by YJ and FLG.

But you didn’t answer my question. Do you know who North Shore Elite is? have never heard of them. Was curious if anyone knew anything about them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds like someone got cut/demoted from Liberty.


Can’t imagine they cut anyone. They are too busy plugging up the holes left by all the players leaving. Next year will be even worse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 03:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Liberty black is terrible

That may be true and they seem to make sure they ply in tournaments they can win. Rumor I they pulled out of Queen of the Island. Don’t want to get showed up by YJ and FLG.

But you didn’t answer my question. Do you know who North Shore Elite is? have never heard of them. Was curious if anyone knew anything about them.

Answered a bunch of times already….
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 05:30 PM
Showed up by flg? Fall Fray they beat them 11-2
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Liberty black is terrible

That may be true and they seem to make sure they ply in tournaments they can win. Rumor I they pulled out of Queen of the Island. Don’t want to get showed up by YJ and FLG.

But you didn’t answer my question. Do you know who North Shore Elite is? have never heard of them. Was curious if anyone knew anything about them.

Answered a bunch of times already….

Easy there. They all posted at the same time mine did.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 11:09 PM
Liberty not listed for Queen. Shocker.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/17/21 11:13 PM
Fall fray FLG team was the B squad....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/18/21 12:45 AM
Was that CT Grizzlies' B team at Fall Fray? Hard to believe their A team would lose to legacy?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/18/21 12:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is North Shore Elite? They beat all 3 teams they played at Fall Fray today including Liberty Black.

Pick up team basically - lots of YJ

A bit more complicated -- its an all-star team across 4 or 5 rec leagues/teams. That said, i believe 12 or 13 players were YJ, mostly on the A team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/18/21 02:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Showed up by flg? Fall Fray they beat them 11-2

Easy Liberty dad. Face facts. The team isn’t what it was. Going to be a long year with lots of excuses and pumping yourselves up when you beat B teams. Queens of the B team bracket. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/18/21 02:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Liberty not listed for Queen. Shocker.

Liberty dropped out and YJ Gaghan dropped to the B bracket. S2S has no shot to be competitive in that A bracket but at least they are willing to put themselves out there. Surprised YJ is willing to play their teams against one another.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/18/21 02:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Showed up by flg? Fall Fray they beat them 11-2

Ummmmm pretty sure they meant FLG Navy….not White
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/19/21 01:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was that CT Grizzlies' B team at Fall Fray? Hard to believe their A team would lose to legacy?

Legacy is a brand new team with an amazing new coach, playing in their first 12v12 tournament. There is a lot of room for improvement but they got better with every game. They practice 2-3 times per week, have actual winter training and box lacrosse. With a few additions, by next year, they'll be one of the top teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/19/21 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was that CT Grizzlies' B team at Fall Fray? Hard to believe their A team would lose to legacy?

Legacy is a brand new team with an amazing new coach, playing in their first 12v12 tournament. There is a lot of room for improvement but they got better with every game. They practice 2-3 times per week, have actual winter training and box lacrosse. With a few additions, by next year, they'll be one of the top teams.

Not sure they will be a top team by fall, but they will be much improved. Liberty's record on player development on the island is as good as any. Biggest problem for the club, though, is preventing its top players from going to YJ or TG
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/19/21 07:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was that CT Grizzlies' B team at Fall Fray? Hard to believe their A team would lose to legacy?

Legacy is a brand new team with an amazing new coach, playing in their first 12v12 tournament. There is a lot of room for improvement but they got better with every game. They practice 2-3 times per week, have actual winter training and box lacrosse. With a few additions, by next year, they'll be one of the top teams.

Not sure they will be a top team by fall, but they will be much improved. Liberty's record on player development on the island is as good as any. Biggest problem for the club, though, is preventing its top players from going to YJ or TG

same problem for every club as they get older
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/22/21 01:47 PM
How much training does your daughter do outside of club practices and her own workouts? Privates? Groups? Clinics? Pick up leagues? Many of the clinics out there seem like money grabs and half the time is spent waiting around. Trying to figure out the ideal mix at this age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/22/21 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How much training does your daughter do outside of club practices and her own workouts? Privates? Groups? Clinics? Pick up leagues? Many of the clinics out there seem like money grabs and half the time is spent waiting around. Trying to figure out the ideal mix at this age.

my take from a father who has had two daughters go on to next level (1 top 25 D1, another top NESCAC) and a highly rated 24.

Lots will depend on your club team and how much they practice Obv some teams practice much more than others. Beyond that, most important is to get wall ball nearly every day engrained (at least 4 days per week; 30-40 minutes per session).

Beyond that I would focus on stick work and agility training, depending on your daughters needs. (skip agility if she plays multiple sports). Ideally stick work should be position-based but this gets more important later. If she take the draw, some dedicated draw work is important too. Biggest goal at this level should be 1) ability to shoot and pass on multiple levels (high,middle,low) 2) no difference between right and left hands and 3) footwork on (a variety of) dodges

Personally think most clinics and pickup leagues are wastes of time developmentally, but your daughter enjoys them don't stop her.

From what i've seen, its the agility part, where i've seen lots of LI girls get behind. Though there are plenty of exceptions, i think defensive footwork at the top LI clubs is a well behind that at the top MD clubs.

Hope this helps.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/22/21 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How much training does your daughter do outside of club practices and her own workouts? Privates? Groups? Clinics? Pick up leagues? Many of the clinics out there seem like money grabs and half the time is spent waiting around. Trying to figure out the ideal mix at this age.

my take from a father who has had two daughters go on to next level (1 top 25 D1, another top NESCAC) and a highly rated 24.

Lots will depend on your club team and how much they practice Obv some teams practice much more than others. Beyond that, most important is to get wall ball nearly every day engrained (at least 4 days per week; 30-40 minutes per session).

Beyond that I would focus on stick work and agility training, depending on your daughters needs. (skip agility if she plays multiple sports). Ideally stick work should be position-based but this gets more important later. If she take the draw, some dedicated draw work is important too. Biggest goal at this level should be 1) ability to shoot and pass on multiple levels (high,middle,low) 2) no difference between right and left hands and 3) footwork on (a variety of) dodges

Personally think most clinics and pickup leagues are wastes of time developmentally, but your daughter enjoys them don't stop her.

From what i've seen, its the agility part, where i've seen lots of LI girls get behind. Though there are plenty of exceptions, i think defensive footwork at the top LI clubs is a well behind that at the top MD clubs.

Hope this helps.

Super helpful info, thank you. Advice makes so much sense. Wall ball does make all the difference. Trick is making it a habit nearly every day.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/22/21 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How much training does your daughter do outside of club practices and her own workouts? Privates? Groups? Clinics? Pick up leagues? Many of the clinics out there seem like money grabs and half the time is spent waiting around. Trying to figure out the ideal mix at this age.

my take from a father who has had two daughters go on to next level (1 top 25 D1, another top NESCAC) and a highly rated 24.

Lots will depend on your club team and how much they practice Obv some teams practice much more than others. Beyond that, most important is to get wall ball nearly every day engrained (at least 4 days per week; 30-40 minutes per session).

Beyond that I would focus on stick work and agility training, depending on your daughters needs. (skip agility if she plays multiple sports). Ideally stick work should be position-based but this gets more important later. If she take the draw, some dedicated draw work is important too. Biggest goal at this level should be 1) ability to shoot and pass on multiple levels (high,middle,low) 2) no difference between right and left hands and 3) footwork on (a variety of) dodges

Personally think most clinics and pickup leagues are wastes of time developmentally, but your daughter enjoys them don't stop her.

From what i've seen, its the agility part, where i've seen lots of LI girls get behind. Though there are plenty of exceptions, i think defensive footwork at the top LI clubs is a well behind that at the top MD clubs.

Hope this helps.

Super helpful info, thank you. Advice makes so much sense. Wall ball does make all the difference. Trick is making it a habit nearly every day.


Glad you found it helpful. One more point about wall ball. have your daughter focus on quality not quanity.

Too much wall ball is about getting max reps in a minute, 5 minutes, etc. The result is lots of flat footed reps with no football.

Focus on getting good footwork on every rep. 100 high quality reps are better than 1000 flat footed ones.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/25/21 02:54 PM
Is Empire Green or White the top team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/25/21 03:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is Empire Green or White the top team?

Green
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/28/21 02:08 PM
And we know who it is
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/28/21 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And we know who it is

?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/30/21 07:31 PM
No surprise here…YJ A and B go undefeated at Queen. And B shutout flg navy? I guess this is what happens when your best players leave.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/30/21 08:21 PM
FLG Navy v. YJ B cancelled. Dope.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/30/21 08:25 PM
YJ A 6 - FLG Navy 5. I guess that’s what happens when your best players have no loyalty.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/30/21 11:18 PM
lost
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/30/21 11:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ A 6 - FLG Navy 5. I guess that’s what happens when your best players have no loyalty.
Is it the players or parents that have no loyalty?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 12:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ A 6 - FLG Navy 5. I guess that’s what happens when your best players have no loyalty.
Is it the players or parents that have no loyalty?

Watched this game. very good lacrosse. Both should be top 10 nationally.

YJ clearly more talented, but didn't really have any ideas on offense other than some set plays, 2-man games, iso. FLG playing more team lacrosse and looked better in settled play. YJ bigger and physical in midfield and that was the difference
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 01:23 AM
Is it the parents or kids that are CRAZY......
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 02:09 AM
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 11:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ A 6 - FLG Navy 5. I guess that’s what happens when your best players have no loyalty.
Is it the players or parents that have no loyalty?

Watched this game. very good lacrosse. Both should be top 10 nationally.

YJ clearly more talented, but didn't really have any ideas on offense other than some set plays, 2-man games, iso. FLG playing more team lacrosse and looked better in settled play. YJ bigger and physical in midfield and that was the difference

YJ could be so much better. Coaching continues to be terrible and toxic sideline. I’m hopefully they finally make a permanent coaching change for next season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.

This is spot on. The fact these parents are ‘loyal’ is only going to hurt those kids when they get to recruiting years and are playing in garbage tournaments all the time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 02:44 PM
Agreed. What stunad seriously thinks a girls tourney49
Minute game ends 0-0. Try the game didn’t happen. Omg…. Would not be that result!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 02:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.

Why do you say that? They can stay together as a team and do very well. It doesn’t matter what the other teams at FLG are doing. As long as they get put in the right tournaments and brackets. (Need to demand management does that for them) They can win and get recognized for it. If they go to the other big name teams on LI, may never see the field when it counts. Way the risk and rewards. May be better to stay together and kill it??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 02:57 PM
Best players still on FLG Navy with some amazing new additions. Not missing a beat. Coming together for great TEAM play and not just a top line playing game. Depth …. Great group of young athletes too committed to a team they love and don’t fear the slide to the B or the C slide YJ is famous for.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 05:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 06:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.

This is spot on. The fact these parents are ‘loyal’ is only going to hurt those kids when they get to recruiting years and are playing in garbage tournaments all the time.

They Need to speak up to ownership and demand more for their team!! Better tournaments and commitment!! If don’t get it, start looking to move …
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
They played Pride and Aces Elite.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 07:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??

Flg navy in last month played Aces, Pride, Yj
All highly competitive games. Why leave a team who can play with anyone in the country just because some of the club’s other teams aren’t great. Makes no sense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 07:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
Pride and Aces Elite. Pride being the better of the 2.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 09:25 PM
Do we not realize that there are over 550 college lacrosse NCAA women’s programs? Are we seriously to think that only 24 YJA girls are going to play college lacrosse!!!! Ludicrous thinking. Your athlete needs to practice, play, lead their team and be HAPPY… they will be seen at showcases, games-both HS and Club, and need to not ride the sidelines for years just to have a team name. Loyalty to a program who cares about your daughter individually= college recruiting … get serious. There is not only one 24 girl roster team that feeds colleges! C”mon!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 10:27 PM
Heard flg never subbed the bench in vs YJ A
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 10:30 PM
FLG gear seems nicer and the moms are hotter
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 10:51 PM
My daughter is on YJ. Let me tell you it’s a disfunctional mess. Parents only confide in their small circles but there are many small groups dissing coaches, players, second guessing. Parent coaches kids start and never come off. Everyone eye rolls especially if you’re a left attacker or a midfielder. The assistant now head coach is looking over his shoulder at the former head coach, now the assistant. The now head coach spent the last year calling parents to make his case. Now he has the top job. Nice guy but a daddy first and lacrosse coach second. We have too many girls on the team. Pressure will build to win at all costs which means 15 girls will barely see the field come next summer. It’s only October and the sideline has the pressure cooker feeling of a recruiting event in July. I (and several others) secretly hope for the team to lose so there is a clean sweep of the coaching staff. Good group of girls but drama drama drama.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 10/31/21 11:07 PM
Empire is the program of the future.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 02:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter is on YJ. Let me tell you it’s a disfunctional mess. Parents only confide in their small circles but there are many small groups dissing coaches, players, second guessing. Parent coaches kids start and never come off. Everyone eye rolls especially if you’re a left attacker or a midfielder. The assistant now head coach is looking over his shoulder at the former head coach, now the assistant. The now head coach spent the last year calling parents to make his case. Now he has the top job. Nice guy but a daddy first and lacrosse coach second. We have too many girls on the team. Pressure will build to win at all costs which means 15 girls will barely see the field come next summer. It’s only October and the sideline has the pressure cooker feeling of a recruiting event in July. I (and several others) secretly hope for the team to lose so there is a clean sweep of the coaching staff. Good group of girls but drama drama drama.

They need to do away with the parent coaching and 28 girl rosters !!! If that’s the type of club you are on… and not one of the top 12 players…. Get off of it, and find another team where your daughter will be happy and actually play! There are plenty of opportunities and clubs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 02:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter is on YJ. Let me tell you it’s a disfunctional mess. Parents only confide in their small circles but there are many small groups dissing coaches, players, second guessing. Parent coaches kids start and never come off. Everyone eye rolls especially if you’re a left attacker or a midfielder. The assistant now head coach is looking over his shoulder at the former head coach, now the assistant. The now head coach spent the last year calling parents to make his case. Now he has the top job. Nice guy but a daddy first and lacrosse coach second. We have too many girls on the team. Pressure will build to win at all costs which means 15 girls will barely see the field come next summer. It’s only October and the sideline has the pressure cooker feeling of a recruiting event in July. I (and several others) secretly hope for the team to lose so there is a clean sweep of the coaching staff. Good group of girls but drama drama drama.

A word of advice - don't hold your breath waiting for that coaching change. YJ has nearly destroyed blue teams rather than change coaches. CR knows most kids will stay no matter what the coaching situation is. The ones that leave will be replaced with another paying body. It doesn't have to be someone better, just a girl whose parents will cut the check. The brand attracts talent and CRs connections keep the college commitments coming. The coach is irrelevant for her purposes.

The coaching will not change.

Your daughter can change teams. If you are going to do that, it is best to do it before high school. Basically, this coming summer or it gets much harder and you're likely to be stuck there until it's all over. Good luck to you and your daughter.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 02:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire is the program of the future.

Just because you say it out loud doesn’t mean it will be true. It will be ok Empire dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire is the program of the future.

says nobody except you Empire dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 02:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter is on YJ. Let me tell you it’s a disfunctional mess. Parents only confide in their small circles but there are many small groups dissing coaches, players, second guessing. Parent coaches kids start and never come off. Everyone eye rolls especially if you’re a left attacker or a midfielder. The assistant now head coach is looking over his shoulder at the former head coach, now the assistant. The now head coach spent the last year calling parents to make his case. Now he has the top job. Nice guy but a daddy first and lacrosse coach second. We have too many girls on the team. Pressure will build to win at all costs which means 15 girls will barely see the field come next summer. It’s only October and the sideline has the pressure cooker feeling of a recruiting event in July. I (and several others) secretly hope for the team to lose so there is a clean sweep of the coaching staff. Good group of girls but drama drama drama.

Will be interesting to see what happens at Lax for the Cure after YJ gets rolled in the first game by Eagle Stix. Get ready for some sideline drama.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard flg never subbed the bench in vs YJ A

Which clown did you hear that from? FLG Navy plays all its players and significant minutes across the board regardless of the opponent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
Pride and Aces Elite. Pride being the better of the 2.

Did they play head to head? My daughter's team has played both and I'd say Aces is better by a good margin. Maybe something changed in Fall?

Over summer, the final rankings were Aces #3 and Pride #10.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 03:45 PM
Empire subs their players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 04:22 PM
Which clown did you hear that from? FLG Navy plays all its players and significant minutes across the board regardless of the opponent.


Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep better at night
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 04:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
Pride and Aces Elite. Pride being the better of the 2.

Did they play head to head? My daughter's team has played both and I'd say Aces is better by a good margin. Maybe something changed in Fall?

Over summer, the final rankings were Aces #3 and Pride #10.

As someone who has a daughter who has battled both teams many times, I can tell you for sure Aces is better. Pride is a really good team. But on their best days, Aces can be as strong as M&D, Hero's and Eagle Stix. Pride is a notch below
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 05:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a great team but that’s the last competitive game they will see for a while where that organization plays in garbage events all year.

I get the team is very good, but they are the only girls team in the organization who can catch and throw so I would recommend getting out of there before the high school years.
Well winter is on its way so you are correct there. They have played 3 top 10 teams in the last month and lost all 3 by a combined 4 goals. Not a bad stretch of competitive games. I think they’ll be ok. They are 12, happy and playing great lacrosse. If they are good enough to play at the next and if they actually want to play at the next level they will be found regardless of what club they play for.

Besides YJA do tell who the 3 top 10 teams were??
Pride and Aces Elite. Pride being the better of the 2.

Did they play head to head? My daughter's team has played both and I'd say Aces is better by a good margin. Maybe something changed in Fall?

Over summer, the final rankings were Aces #3 and Pride #10.

As someone who has a daughter who has battled both teams many times, I can tell you for sure Aces is better. Pride is a really good team. But on their best days, Aces can be as strong as M&D, Hero's and Eagle Stix. Pride is a notch below

!00% accurate.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 07:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which clown did you hear that from? FLG Navy plays all its players and significant minutes across the board regardless of the opponent.


Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep better at night

You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 09:15 PM
You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.


I watched because it’s the two best clubs on LI and I even noticed FLG never subbed that game 3-5 kids stood on the sidelines but subbed against us, Flg only has one FO girl who’s really tall better hope she doesn’t miss a game she’s the offense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 10:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.


I watched because it’s the two best clubs on LI and I even noticed FLG never subbed that game 3-5 kids stood on the sidelines but subbed against us, Flg only has one FO girl who’s really tall better hope she doesn’t miss a game she’s the offense.

What is an FO girl?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/01/21 11:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.


I watched because it’s the two best clubs on LI and I even noticed FLG never subbed that game 3-5 kids stood on the sidelines but subbed against us, Flg only has one FO girl who’s really tall better hope she doesn’t miss a game she’s the offense.
Except for the fact that 4 different girls scored the five goals for FLG.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/02/21 12:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.


I watched because it’s the two best clubs on LI and I even noticed FLG never subbed that game 3-5 kids stood on the sidelines but subbed against us, Flg only has one FO girl who’s really tall better hope she doesn’t miss a game she’s the offense.

That’s a bit of a low blow but you’re shocked she’s not on yj, I get it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/02/21 01:12 AM
FLG doesn’t sub in big games?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/02/21 11:43 AM
Nope
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/02/21 11:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You should take your own advice. Plain and simple fact that all girls on FLG played significant minutes. Can’t say the same for YJA.


I watched because it’s the two best clubs on LI and I even noticed FLG never subbed that game 3-5 kids stood on the sidelines but subbed against us, Flg only has one FO girl who’s really tall better hope she doesn’t miss a game she’s the offense.

What is an FO girl?


Face Off, which I think they meant DC in this case.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/02/21 01:47 PM
Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/02/21 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/02/21 02:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.

Do they promote from within or are b kids stuck on b like yj?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/02/21 03:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.

Do they promote from within or are b kids stuck on b like yj?
They brought 3 girls from White to Navy I believe this year and a few last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/02/21 04:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.

Do they promote from within or are b kids stuck on b like yj?
They brought 3 girls from White to Navy I believe this year and a few last year.


Ok so there are opportunities to move up. I wonder if A team made cuts to bring up girls from B.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/02/21 04:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.

Do they promote from within or are b kids stuck on b like yj?
They brought 3 girls from White to Navy I believe this year and a few last year.


Ok so there are opportunities to move up. I wonder if A team made cuts to bring up girls from B.
Doesn’t mean you will play. You my go from being the rockstar on B to riding the bench on A. Choose wisely and don’t just chase the A team title.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/02/21 09:47 PM
FLG Navy has a total team roster of 16 girls and that includes the one goalie…. Even when the entire team is there which is not all the time, that means there are literally only FOUR girls on the sidelines The FLG squad sideline could not field a whole second team the way most programs do with 24-28 girl rosters. Please don’t tell me that most competitive club sports squads do not play their best girls when they are up against their biggest competition for a single game. Happens all the time for maybe one tournament game. Maybe even more Luckily FLG is fair in the numbers they keep on a team roster so all girls get lots of play time throughout the tournament season
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/03/21 12:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG Navy has a total team roster of 16 girls and that includes the one goalie…. Even when the entire team is there which is not all the time, that means there are literally only FOUR girls on the sidelines The FLG squad sideline could not field a whole second team the way most programs do with 24-28 girl rosters. Please don’t tell me that most competitive club sports squads do not play their best girls when they are up against their biggest competition for a single game. Happens all the time for maybe one tournament game. Maybe even more Luckily FLG is fair in the numbers they keep on a team roster so all girls get lots of play time throughout the tournament season

Please… don’t think the Winkoff’s would cram more girls onto that team if they could? $$$$
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/03/21 01:25 AM
Empire doesn't cram kids on teams
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/03/21 09:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does FLG have A and B team or just the one?

They have a white team only on the 27 level.

Pretty much rec level. didnt win a game at lowest group at QOTI.

What happened to the 27 Elevate team? Looked like a 26/27 combo at QOTI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/03/21 09:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To be accurate for this age group, it’s YJ Grazadei, flg Navy then a pretty big drop off, liberty black, empire, YJ gaghan, TG black then a drop off, elevate, YJ Palermo, legacy, jesters, then a drop off for anyone else like blue devils, 91bandits and the b teams. And tradition is prob in the second grouping, but not sure if they count bc they’re just GC. Will be interesting to see if pieces shuffled around this summer and any changes among the top teams. MY guess is grazadei gets stronger

Still hard to tell but Grazadei and Flg looked real strong at Queen. Possible they both got better even after all the movement. Not sure about the others. Elevate off the grid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/04/21 12:16 AM
Who did top guns pick up? How are they at this age level?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/05/21 09:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who did top guns pick up? How are they at this age level?

We will find out this weekend. More than half of their team is new. They are looking to be number 1.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/06/21 01:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who did top guns pick up? How are they at this age level?

We will find out this weekend. More than half of their team is new. They are looking to be number 1.

That seat’s taken
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/06/21 07:32 PM
these YJ stazidei practices....smh. This team wins despite these coaches. Is it too much to ask to have coaches with lax experience beyond training their daughters
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/06/21 09:35 PM
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/07/21 01:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

What tourney?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/07/21 01:13 AM
Who ever is talking badly about a yj team practice has serious mental issues. It’s practice. Empire parents don’t do that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/07/21 01:40 PM
The 2021 Northeast Showcase
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/08/21 01:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who ever is talking badly about a yj team practice has serious mental issues. It’s practice. Empire parents don’t do that.

Lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/08/21 08:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

What tourney?
Tough teams but they will get there. Great players. They just need some time playing together. Huge improvement from last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/09/21 02:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/11/21 12:11 PM
What are the problems?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/11/21 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/11/21 07:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that same zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/11/21 07:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/11/21 08:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)


YJ will get Heros and Aces at Live Love Lax. and Prime Time will get YJ B.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/11/21 11:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)

Ugh, dreading the stazidei sidelines. I hope the coaches play to win during the eagle stix game at least. Last time they played everyone we almost lost to lame FLG.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/11/21 11:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)


YJ will get Heros and Aces at Live Love Lax. and Prime Time will get YJ B.

PT is playing Eagle Stix and YJA on Saturday - not sure what you're looking at
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/12/21 01:17 AM
Empire plays everyone. Plenty of spots open if you’re not happy with the coaching or playing time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/12/21 02:52 AM
I heard they are cram free
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/12/21 03:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire plays everyone. Plenty of spots open if you’re not happy with the coaching or playing time.

There is a reason why spots are open…..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/12/21 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire plays everyone. Plenty of spots open if you’re not happy with the coaching or playing time.

There is a reason why spots are open…..

Guess you're new here.....Empire parents get sarcasm...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/12/21 01:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)

Ugh, dreading the stazidei sidelines. I hope the coaches play to win during the eagle stix game at least. Last time they played everyone we almost lost to lame FLG.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)

Ugh, dreading the stazidei sidelines. I hope the coaches play to win during the eagle stix game at least. Last time they played everyone we almost lost to lame FLG.

My god. So much whining. If it is so bad, why do you willingly fork over money to play there? Talk with your feet instead of being a sheep.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/12/21 03:03 PM
"My god. So much whining. If it is so bad, why do you willingly fork over money to play there? Talk with your feet instead of being a sheep".

LOL....I'm stealing that one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/12/21 03:51 PM
Lots of teams play equally in the fall, in order to validate talent level of each kid.

MY daughters team was down at half to two different top-5 teams a few weeks ago, ended up losing by 5-7 goals as we rotated all in the game equally.

spring/summer is the time to really pull out the stops.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/12/21 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)

Ugh, dreading the stazidei sidelines. I hope the coaches play to win during the eagle stix game at least. Last time they played everyone we almost lost to lame FLG.
"We" almost lost to FLG?? So you were out there playing? Your would probably pass out with one run up the field. Give me a break, it's fall lax. Once spring comes the same 12-14 girls will play the whole game, and your precious daughter will get her playing time or will she? A lot of new girls maybe she will be one of them on the bench, also your boy is not the head coach anymore. Should start sucking up to the new head coach(I'm guessing you have)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/13/21 04:39 AM
YJ situation headed into first real tourney. Grazzy butt kissers rooting for failure, bench warmers rooting for failure, staddy has his wife and daughter rooting for him but that’s it. New girls feeling optimistic and excited but that will get crushed before thanksgiving. I’ll try and report live from jersey but don’t want to get busted. Must win game vs. eagle stix.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/13/21 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ situation headed into first real tourney. Grazzy butt kissers rooting for failure, bench warmers rooting for failure, staddy has his wife and daughter rooting for him but that’s it. New girls feeling optimistic and excited but that will get crushed before thanksgiving. I’ll try and report live from jersey but don’t want to get busted. Must win game vs. eagle stix.

What tourney is YJ playing? My daughter is at Fall Draw today and they aren’t playing but Eagle Stix Is.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/13/21 03:42 PM
Lax for the cure at New Egypt HS.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/14/21 03:48 AM
All this drama. What I really need to know.....is how long till people move to a slightly competitive cram free club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/14/21 02:46 PM
What happened to Elevate?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/14/21 11:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of teams play equally in the fall, in order to validate talent level of each kid.

MY daughters team was down at half to two different top-5 teams a few weeks ago, ended up losing by 5-7 goals as we rotated all in the game equally.

spring/summer is the time to really pull out the stops.


Equal play in fall is driven more by clubs afraid that families of kids who don't play in the fall won't make their second installment of fees for the spring and summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/14/21 11:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I don’t know how top guns is gonna do this season. They went 0-3 at the tourney today. They were playing pretty good teams though so it could be that

They didn't play a team within the top-14 based on this summer's rankings.

Prime Time is solid team, Monster is okay. I would put Top Guns around 25-35, they were 36th last season.

Of course, Fall Ball means equal playing time, kids missing for soccer, etc, so take scores with a grain of salt.


Prime Time gets YJ and Eagle stix this weekend. We will understand how good they are after this weekend.

They aren’t in that zip code. They would have their hands full with YJ B.

Shame no Maryland teams are playing. I think they have a tournament too. Hero's and M&D would have been a nice tournament with Eagle and YJ. Would have been fun to watch up here.......Good luck to everyone this weekend (especially our local teams)


YJ will get Heros and Aces at Live Love Lax. and Prime Time will get YJ B.


Prime Time parent here. Lost by 1 to YJ yesterday. Will fully admit YJ had 10 of the 12 best players on the field. Their skill sticks and athleticism were at a different level. That said, they had no real ideas on offense other than a few isolation plays. Don't know much about the program but it seems like at least one of the following was true. 1) the team never practices 2) there is no real coaching going on or 3) the players just reject the coaching and do as they please.

This surprised me because I also have a daughter at a higher age level and would never say this about older YJ teams.

Have to believe that if nothing improves they would be rolled by top Maryland teams against whom they don't have a big talent advantage.


I would freely admit if coaching were switched and they played to win they would probably win 14-1.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/15/21 04:53 AM
Ok as the YJ parent who posts here often I’ll tell you we practice quite often. Friday nights, weekends. Throw in a scrimmage against the 26 team. So our issue isn’t lack of practice. Personally I think the team is evolving. The daddy and mommy coaches trying to keep their daughters front and center. That creates issues as some of the talent needs to get moved to accommodate. Meanwhile with grazzy everything ran through our star and now staddy trying to change that but unfortunately his knowledge of the game comes from YouTube. The talent level is so good we can still win most games despite this but agree as they get older will be a problem. CR is aware of all this but at this point just in wait and see mode for this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/15/21 01:32 PM
[/quote]
Prime Time parent here. Lost by 1 to YJ yesterday. Will fully admit YJ had 10 of the 12 best players on the field. Their skill sticks and athleticism were at a different level. That said, they had no real ideas on offense other than a few isolation plays. Don't know much about the program but it seems like at least one of the following was true. 1) the team never practices 2) there is no real coaching going on or 3) the players just reject the coaching and do as they please.

This surprised me because I also have a daughter at a higher age level and would never say this about older YJ teams.

Have to believe that if nothing improves they would be rolled by top Maryland teams against whom they don't have a big talent advantage.


I would freely admit if coaching were switched and they played to win they would probably win 14-1.[/quote]

Impressive result for Prime Time. Did you guys add more talent? Girls clicking? We played you multiple times last year. You def have 2-3 real good players who seem to be able to score at will.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/15/21 04:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[/quote]
Prime Time parent here. Lost by 1 to YJ yesterday. Will fully admit YJ had 10 of the 12 best players on the field. Their skill sticks and athleticism were at a different level. That said, they had no real ideas on offense other than a few isolation plays. Don't know much about the program but it seems like at least one of the following was true. 1) the team never practices 2) there is no real coaching going on or 3) the players just reject the coaching and do as they please.

This surprised me because I also have a daughter at a higher age level and would never say this about older YJ teams.

Have to believe that if nothing improves they would be rolled by top Maryland teams against whom they don't have a big talent advantage.


I would freely admit if coaching were switched and they played to win they would probably win 14-1.

Impressive result for Prime Time. Did you guys add more talent? Girls clicking? We played you multiple times last year. You def have 2-3 real good players who seem to be able to score at will.[/quote]

We had some upgrades on the back end of the roster, but the core of the team is the same. We implemented our motion offense and defensive principles last year and the girls didn't really get it or ran away from it when it got tough. As a result, we had a few very good performances and but were mostly mediocre. Our biggest improvements has been on settled play defense and getting transition opportunities on the clear.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/15/21 05:46 PM
So we are definitely seeing the playing field change. Prime Time has stepped up. Top Guns will be a wait and see as the team hasn’t had a chance to help yet. Dare I say Liberty has fallen? Not a great showing this weekend. The spring will be a deciding factor for many teams. Those that don’t play will jump ship. Teams that aren’t used to losing will also lose top
talent. Where they wind up will be the question. Teams are starting to demand that kids show up to everything and are frowning on kids playing other sports that create conflicts. That will change the dynamic as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/15/21 06:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Prime Time parent here. Lost by 1 to YJ yesterday. Will fully admit YJ had 10 of the 12 best players on the field. Their skill sticks and athleticism were at a different level. That said, they had no real ideas on offense other than a few isolation plays. Don't know much about the program but it seems like at least one of the following was true. 1) the team never practices 2) there is no real coaching going on or 3) the players just reject the coaching and do as they please.

This surprised me because I also have a daughter at a higher age level and would never say this about older YJ teams.

Have to believe that if nothing improves they would be rolled by top Maryland teams against whom they don't have a big talent advantage.


I would freely admit if coaching were switched and they played to win they would probably win 14-1.

Impressive result for Prime Time. Did you guys add more talent? Girls clicking? We played you multiple times last year. You def have 2-3 real good players who seem to be able to score at will.[/quote]


Core group of girls is the same, a few nice additions but the top scorers are the same.. Last summer we had a couple good games and lots of mediocre ones where we played well for 15 minutes and let it get away.

Biggest change is more time with the motion offense and more comfort with defensive principles, especially trapping in the ride. We put in a complicated offense which never consistently performed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/15/21 11:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok as the YJ parent who posts here often I’ll tell you we practice quite often. Friday nights, weekends. Throw in a scrimmage against the 26 team. So our issue isn’t lack of practice. Personally I think the team is evolving. The daddy and mommy coaches trying to keep their daughters front and center. That creates issues as some of the talent needs to get moved to accommodate. Meanwhile with grazzy everything ran through our star and now staddy trying to change that but unfortunately his knowledge of the game comes from YouTube. The talent level is so good we can still win most games despite this but agree as they get older will be a problem. CR is aware of all this but at this point just in wait and see mode for this year.

YJ has mature, athletic players. That won't mean a thing in two years when all the girls have gone through puberty.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/18/21 09:07 PM
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/19/21 01:46 AM
Can’t wait for this weekend. All the competitive teams from Long Island in Delaware. It’s going to be great!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/19/21 02:18 AM
So many games this weekend. So much playing time. Let’s go Empire!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/19/21 02:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/19/21 03:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.

YJ B team will be surprising teams come the spring - they finally have a goalie to back up that tough d and by end of summer will definitely be considered in the “A” conversation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/19/21 04:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.

Lol. Hit a nerve bench warmer?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/19/21 12:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.

Lol. Hit a nerve bench warmer?
Lol. Hit a nerve girl who didn’t make either team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/19/21 01:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.

Cannot comment on the 27 team specifically but if you looked at past YJ college commitments, there were definitely several girls each year who committed to top programs while not the whole A team commit. So, I would say yes generally. If you are on the bench in the A team, college coaches can't evaluate you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/19/21 03:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.
Says the yj B team parent who’s girl didn’t make the A team.

Lol. Hit a nerve bench warmer?
Lol. Hit a nerve girl who didn’t make either team

Making the team and playing are 2 very different things. If your kid doesn’t play they aren’t getting better. I would take being the top player on a B team over not playing in the A any day.
I wish more parents thought like this........the girls would be so much better off
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/19/21 04:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.

Even if it wasn't by choice - this happens pretty much every year. I think most YJ B teams have some players who are more talented than some of the back ups on A. Playing time, preferred position, friends on the team, better rapport with B team coach are all factors. Politics, certain school districts may also be a factor too, but I don't think a major factor. The point of the A teams is to win - so the very best players are always on A no matter what. The back ups on A and the starters on B - there is a gray area, especially as they get older.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/21/21 01:50 AM
I’ve made a huge mistake …
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/21/21 02:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve made a huge mistake …

Do tell.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/21/21 02:43 AM
I haven’t.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/21/21 04:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve made a huge mistake …

Do tell.


Long ride home from Delaware with an upset daughter? That was my day as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/21/21 06:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I’ve made a huge mistake …

Do tell.


Long ride home from Delaware with an upset daughter? That was my day as well.

What team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/21/21 07:24 PM
This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/22/21 12:12 AM
Terrible fall for YJ 27A. All wins and 3 ties. Everyone played

That’s a hot mess. I mean right…….
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/22/21 12:17 AM
On lack of scoring

As an observer. You can’t really blame the coaches. When the players constantly hit the goalie, shoot into the goalies stick, hit the post or miss the net.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/22/21 01:19 PM
Maybe they should change up the shooters
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/22/21 01:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terrible fall for YJ 27A. All wins and 3 ties. Everyone played

That’s a hot mess. I mean right…….

With the talent on that team?? Tying town teams? Nah.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/22/21 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.

Played the Gaghan team this weekend in Delaware. Having lost to the A team by one in the past we thought we would easily handle the B team. Have to say, the girls had their hands full the whole game and wound up in a tie. Is this the same team from last year or did they get a bunch of new players?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/22/21 09:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.


For me, its not about the lack of goals, its that the goals they do get all come from turnovers and transition opps or free positions. Very goals for open, settled play and almost all of those were from 1 on 1 play.

Even in games we won by 9+ goals, we still barely had any assists.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/22/21 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question for YJ parents -- did some girls choose to play on the B team instead of the A team to get more playing time? Saw both teams play at LFTC and I could pick our 3 or 4 players on Gaghan who were head and shoulders better than some of the bench players on the Grassy.

Played the Gaghan team this weekend in Delaware. Having lost to the A team by one in the past we thought we would easily handle the B team. Have to say, the girls had their hands full the whole game and wound up in a tie. Is this the same team from last year or did they get a bunch of new players?


Similar team. A few girls dropped down from A team, but those aren't the best players. Also dropped about 6 or7 girls from bottom of roster, who were either in over their heads or focused on other sports. Gaghan doing a very good job executing the offense, arguably better than YJ A. Upgraded goalie position too. Still too many turnovers and transition D needs lots of work. For the summer, I think some backup middies will become defenders.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/22/21 09:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.

Change coaches or reduce number of Northport girls on the A team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/22/21 09:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Terrible fall for YJ 27A. All wins and 3 ties. Everyone played

That’s a hot mess. I mean right…….

With the talent on that team?? Tying town teams? Nah.

Just to say that town team ranked higher than many reputable LI club teams. So, please don't trash two teams at once.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/22/21 10:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.

Change coaches or reduce number of Northport girls on the A team?

The team has talent, I agree. What the team lacks is Lax IQ. "Fear the Bee" does not mean run around in circles.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/22/21 11:55 PM
You want Lax IQ, you need to be on the premiere club. Give you one Hint. Ends with and E.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 12:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.


For me, its not about the lack of goals, its that the goals they do get all come from turnovers and transition opps or free positions. Very goals for open, settled play and almost all of those were from 1 on 1 play.

Even in games we won by 9+ goals, we still barely had any assists.

You nailed it
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 01:11 AM
Fear the B ….team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 01:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This stazidei coaching is really top notch. Offense is humming. Now with my sarcasm out of the way...seriously when will CR make a change. Our team scored a whopping 13 goals in 3 games. Assisted goals? Not so much. Such bad lacrosse.


For me, its not about the lack of goals, its that the goals they do get all come from turnovers and transition opps or free positions. Very goals for open, settled play and almost all of those were from 1 on 1 play.

Even in games we won by 9+ goals, we still barely had any assists.


This was perfectly illustrated in the Eagle Stix game. YJ arguably were more talented at every field position (ES goalie was probably better) and the game ended in a tie. The difference -- Eagle Stix runs a precision offense where everyone know their roles and they share the ball.

YJ pass around waiting for a defensive mistake or get tired and try to get a 1:1. The best offense was turning it over and then getting a turnover on the ride. (not a joke). At some point, once YJ is playing teams who are equally physical or know how to play the ball backwards and clear the ball, we will be in trouble.

The only real improvement I have seen is that our clears are much better this year and we are working the ball up the field as a team with much less one on one play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 01:35 AM
Fear the upset parent
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 01:56 AM
Looked at TSIC app, Heroes green scored 3 goals vs YJA and aces scored 4 goals vs YJA. Is the YJ defense that good? Do those teams have an offensive issue too or is it that at top level 2027 games goals are tough to score.
And I’ll guess that PT was made up in game 3 if the scores are correct. (3rd daughter through this)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 05:34 AM
It’s a hot toxic mess over here at YJ. But we’re through the fall. Now we plow through winter trainings and bitterness will fade, optimism will rise until the June tourney run. At that point it’s a tournament every weekend so it will go by fast. The best players on this team won’t change. Anybody new who cracks the starting lineup will be from out of state. The rest are role players getting little minutes and that group will turn over every year. Sad part for the talented players is they will get better despite the coaching on this team. Such a waste.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 12:45 PM
YJA vs. YJB set it up and share the results
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 01:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a hot toxic mess over here at YJ. But we’re through the fall. Now we plow through winter trainings and bitterness will fade, optimism will rise until the June tourney run. At that point it’s a tournament every weekend so it will go by fast. The best players on this team won’t change. Anybody new who cracks the starting lineup will be from out of state. The rest are role players getting little minutes and that group will turn over every year. Sad part for the talented players is they will get better despite the coaching on this team. Such a waste.
How are the new players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 01:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a hot toxic mess over here at YJ. But we’re through the fall. Now we plow through winter trainings and bitterness will fade, optimism will rise until the June tourney run. At that point it’s a tournament every weekend so it will go by fast. The best players on this team won’t change. Anybody new who cracks the starting lineup will be from out of state. The rest are role players getting little minutes and that group will turn over every year. Sad part for the talented players is they will get better despite the coaching on this team. Such a waste.

sounds great!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 02:10 PM
Empire is no toxic hot mess, I assure you
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 02:43 PM
Fear the Forum
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA vs. YJB set it up and share the results

Wouldn't prove much. YJB would play all its players and the back half of that roster is very challenged.

That said, if you watched the game you would see much better offensive execution from YJB.

Also, this would NEVER happen. Would quadruple parential anxiety and angst.


The real test would be to switch the coaches between the two sides for a tourney
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 07:03 PM
Empire, anxiety and angst free. No parents on Xanax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 07:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire, anxiety and angst free. No parents on Xanax.

Empire is a hot mess in the older grades not a good idea for younger kids they'll have no one leadin the pack
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire, anxiety and angst free. No parents on Xanax.

Empire is a second tier club. Continually posting about it isn’t going to change that so please stop.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 07:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA vs. YJB set it up and share the results

Wouldn't prove much. YJB would play all its players and the back half of that roster is very challenged.

That said, if you watched the game you would see much better offensive execution from YJB.

Also, this would NEVER happen. Would quadruple parential anxiety and angst.


The real test would be to switch the coaches between the two sides for a tourney
Switching coaches for a tournament would be a big disadvantage to the YJB. Also YJA might get confused, have to learn to play offense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/23/21 11:58 PM
Second tier? How dare you besmirch another club. Empire parents don’t besmirch. You ma’am…sound like you may be on Xanax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/24/21 04:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire, anxiety and angst free. No parents on Xanax.

Empire is a second tier club. Continually posting about it isn’t going to change that so please stop.

Agree Empire is a second tier club. However, their coaching and player development is as good as any. Top clubs in long island are filled with quality players who started at Empire in grade school
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/27/21 03:41 AM
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/27/21 01:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.

What are their big wins?

I saw them at LLL, solid team but I wouldn’t put them in top 10 (I realize US Club has them there but it’s very premature in fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/27/21 02:19 PM
Impressive jump in the rankings for that team.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/27/21 08:50 PM
They are legit with stable coaching and no drama. They will be considered the “A” if they keep this up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/27/21 10:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are legit with stable coaching and no drama. They will be considered the “A” if they keep this up.
Easy now. It's nice for the girls to see. It's obvious that they are not in the right spot in the rankings. Wouldn't it be nice if the A and B teams rooted for each other. They are in the same organization. You parents are creating this rivalry thing already.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/27/21 10:07 PM
Ha
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/27/21 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.

What are their big wins?

I saw them at LLL, solid team but I wouldn’t put them in top 10 (I realize US Club has them there but it’s very premature in fall.

None really. Their best performance was a tie against Prime Time. That said, team is much improved. Will be interesting to see how they perform if they get to play top MD teams this summer. Heros playday in the spring should reveal a lot
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/28/21 03:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are legit with stable coaching and no drama. They will be considered the “A” if they keep this up.
Easy now. It's nice for the girls to see. It's obvious that they are not in the right spot in the rankings. Wouldn't it be nice if the A and B teams rooted for each other. They are in the same organization. You parents are creating this rivalry thing already.

YJA has to have the worst coaches in the age group. With the talent on that team they should never lose. Any person reading this could not do worse than the current coaches. A golf coach could win games with that team. Just imagine if they had a real coaching staff....Btw, all you need to do is look to some of the pickup teams loaded with YJ girls. They win by even bigger margins.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/28/21 04:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are legit with stable coaching and no drama. They will be considered the “A” if they keep this up.

It's the YJ parents' dream come true! I'm sorry to tell you this, but it is the same story for every grad year. You won't get there. It never happens. Even if it *could* happen, CR won't let it happen. Just let it go and enjoy the journey.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/28/21 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA has to have the worst coaches in the age group. With the talent on that team they should never lose. Any person reading this could not do worse than the current coaches. A golf coach could win games with that team. Just imagine if they had a real coaching staff....Btw, all you need to do is look to some of the pickup teams loaded with YJ girls. They win by even bigger margins.

So your logic is that these pickup YJ teams that play B and C level teams is a measure of better coaching??? No one can take anything you say seriously after that golden nugget of wisdom.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/28/21 03:29 PM
“Every Rose has its thorn……”. No thorns on Empire.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/28/21 08:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA has to have the worst coaches in the age group. With the talent on that team they should never lose. Any person reading this could not do worse than the current coaches. A golf coach could win games with that team. Just imagine if they had a real coaching staff....Btw, all you need to do is look to some of the pickup teams loaded with YJ girls. They win by even bigger margins.

So your logic is that these pickup YJ teams that play B and C level teams is a measure of better coaching??? No one can take anything you say seriously after that golden nugget of wisdom.

The original poster is correct. Anyone who has watched them play a game this year knows they have no plan on offense. Almost all of their goals came from transition off caused turnovers, 2-man games, hot swapping defenders for middies and a random free position here and there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/28/21 09:23 PM
Just like every night has its dawn
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/29/21 12:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJA has to have the worst coaches in the age group. With the talent on that team they should never lose. Any person reading this could not do worse than the current coaches. A golf coach could win games with that team. Just imagine if they had a real coaching staff....Btw, all you need to do is look to some of the pickup teams loaded with YJ girls. They win by even bigger margins.

So your logic is that these pickup YJ teams that play B and C level teams is a measure of better coaching??? No one can take anything you say seriously after that golden nugget of wisdom.

Hardly...The pickup teams have tied aces elite, beat tradition (which i point out YJA tied last week), Legacy, Jesters, BBL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/29/21 06:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.

Can they beat Liberty Black?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/29/21 06:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.

Can they beat Liberty Black?

yup i think the only teams they wouldnt beat are yjA and flg blue, but again thats not saying much, the level after those is a huge drop off right now
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/29/21 07:51 PM
By spring/summer they should be able to beat either of those teams or at least keep it close throughout.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/29/21 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJB making big moves. I was certain that this team would be in the top 10 conversation by the summer but they made huge strides already. YJA…..lookout.

Can they beat Liberty Black?

they would roll them by at least 8, probably closer to 10 or 12 if they played hard to the whistle.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/29/21 09:58 PM
Maybe they should play in a real bracket, Queen tournament they moved down, thanks for making us all laugh.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/29/21 10:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe they should play in a real bracket, Queen tournament they moved down, thanks for making us all laugh.

Seriously enough with this - let's revisit and talk at the end of next summer - they are YJB for a reason
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/29/21 11:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe they should play in a real bracket, Queen tournament they moved down, thanks for making us all laugh.


Don't think Primetime was laughing
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/30/21 12:02 AM
The empire support is hilarious
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/30/21 12:16 AM
I've watched this team last 2 years and they are essentially a different team from last year and are very solid, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. The spring will tell the tale. These girls haven't played together other than a few games and it will take time to develop a flow and when it does they will be able to hang with some of the better teams. I do hear the coaching is very good so time will tell, but the potential is there.
Parents should not be trying to build a negative rivalry between A and B as many of those girls are very good friends and it would be a shame to put any negative spin on the game they enjoy. I understand friendly competition but they are from the same organization and should root each other on both as friends and players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/30/21 12:22 AM
Why YJ B will not ever amount to much:

1) Your best players will move to A
2) You will get A's bottom players, some who are disgruntled, the others not as good as the players who moved up.
3) Players/parents who think should be on A will leave.
4) Your roster will be filled in with new players to make the numbers work. The new players then have to acclimate, regardless of talent. By the time they do, the season will be over and you go back to step #1.

As I said, enjoy the ride. Be happy your kid is playing and hopefully getting better. How your team is ranked means nothing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/30/21 12:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've watched this team last 2 years and they are essentially a different team from last year and are very solid, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. The spring will tell the tale. These girls haven't played together other than a few games and it will take time to develop a flow and when it does they will be able to hang with some of the better teams. I do hear the coaching is very good so time will tell, but the potential is there.
Parents should not be trying to build a negative rivalry between A and B as many of those girls are very good friends and it would be a shame to put any negative spin on the game they enjoy. I understand friendly competition but they are from the same organization and should root each other on both as friends and players.

Let's be honest same organization or not - most of these kids across multiple teams/clubs at this age group are friends, all know each other, play on various pick up teams together....it's only the lost dads on here who try to pound their chest about the rankings of 12 year old girls. You'll all find out in a few more years that none of that matters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/30/21 12:45 AM
No one is trying to build a negative rivalry. Just making an observation that the YJB will be giving both YJA and FLG Navy a run for their money by the summer and going forward. As far as any negative spin is concerned, it’s a fact and it continues that the majority of YJA parents at all age groups are condescending to all others below and many of their daughters follow their lead.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/30/21 12:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Maybe they should play in a real bracket, Queen tournament they moved down, thanks for making us all laugh.


Don't think Primetime was laughing


I saw both Prime Time and YJB. Prime Time is the better team, I know the game ended in a tie, Im just going off of what I seen.

Prime Time has two girls who can score, I'd guess they are 75% of their offense, which isn't unusual at this age based on what Ive seen.



YJB is a solid team though. Always hard to compete as a B, if a girl starts to stand out, good chance A team moves her up in offseason. Also take these fall scores with grain of salt, lots of teams missing players due to soccer, field hockey and also playing the roster evenly which won't happen come Summer tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/30/21 12:49 AM
The brackets weren't really a thing at Queen of the Island. YJ B was playing FLG navy but was canceled due to the rain. YJ B has also played good completion in both tournaments after that. They are right there with the top teams. They are still a step behind YJ A and FLG but they are definitely ahead of the rest of the LI teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/30/21 01:00 AM
No chest pounding Dad's on Empire
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/30/21 01:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The brackets weren't really a thing at Queen of the Island. YJ B was playing FLG navy but was canceled due to the rain. YJ B has also played good completion in both tournaments after that. They are right there with the top teams. They are still a step behind YJ A and FLG but they are definitely ahead of the rest of the LI teams.

it's the Fall relax YJB dad....time will tell
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/30/21 02:03 AM
can't we all just get along
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 11/30/21 01:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The brackets weren't really a thing at Queen of the Island. YJ B was playing FLG navy but was canceled due to the rain. YJ B has also played good completion in both tournaments after that. They are right there with the top teams. They are still a step behind YJ A and FLG but they are definitely ahead of the rest of the LI teams.

it's the Fall relax YJB dad....time will tell

When you are good, other people will say it for you. If you have to tell people, it sounds like there may be some insecurity.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/01/21 02:29 AM
Heard top guns got smacked by a pick up team over the weekend
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/01/21 02:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard top guns got smacked by a pick up team over the weekend

By who? Its pickup so it in meaningless.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/03/21 01:34 AM
Empire never plays in useless pick up games....too much nonsense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/03/21 04:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire never plays in useless pick up games....too much nonsense.

You are a hammerhead!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/03/21 05:07 PM
A cool deadly animal…thanks! I’m picking up what you’re putting down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/03/21 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Empire never plays in useless pick up games....too much nonsense.

You are a hammerhead!
can't we all just get along
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/07/21 12:55 AM
can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/07/21 03:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents...
What’s wrong with us…
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/07/21 03:35 AM
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/07/21 03:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.

We will see who the “real fools” are when Jesters is giving the recruiting help that is needed to get into college! Seems like many other LI programs are not that helpful! I think Jester girls are very lucky to be part of such a program. Let’s see who gets the real help in recruiting when it matters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/07/21 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.

We will see who the “real fools” are when Jesters is giving the recruiting help that is needed to get into college! Seems like many other LI programs are not that helpful! I think Jester girls are very lucky to be part of such a program. Let’s see who gets the real help in recruiting when it matters.

Let's see how many currently rosters Jesters are on Jesters when recruiting matters, four years from now. Same goes for YJ, and any other club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/07/21 04:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.

We will see who the “real fools” are when Jesters is giving the recruiting help that is needed to get into college! Seems like many other LI programs are not that helpful! I think Jester girls are very lucky to be part of such a program. Let’s see who gets the real help in recruiting when it matters.
So do tell what they do differently
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/07/21 05:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.

We will see who the “real fools” are when Jesters is giving the recruiting help that is needed to get into college! Seems like many other LI programs are not that helpful! I think Jester girls are very lucky to be part of such a program. Let’s see who gets the real help in recruiting when it matters.
So do tell what they do differently

They Care about individual girls and their individual abilities and goals. Supports them in trying to reach those goals.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/08/21 01:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]can we all agree.....at least we aren't Jesters parents..

Worst name for a young women’s sports program award goes to….

//jester//
a professional joker or “fool” at a medieval court, typically wearing a cap with bells on it and carrying a mock scepter.

We will see who the “real fools” are when Jesters is giving the recruiting help that is needed to get into college! Seems like many other LI programs are not that helpful! I think Jester girls are very lucky to be part of such a program. Let’s see who gets the real help in recruiting when it matters.
So do tell what they do differently

They Care about individual girls and their individual abilities and goals. Supports them in trying to reach those goals.

As a parent of an older jesters player I can tell you that the recruiting help is unparalleled in comparison to other clubs our family friends are on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/08/21 04:30 PM
As a parent of a former jesters player I can tell you that I am happy I am not a jesters parent any longer...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/08/21 05:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a parent of a former jesters player I can tell you that I am happy I am not a jesters parent any longer...

Would you mind sharing why? Not a jesters parent but it’s always interesting to hear how people can have such different opinions on their clubs based on their own experience
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/08/21 05:11 PM
absolutely - coaching was a carousel from tourney to tourney, watched certain directors make multiple 9 year old girls cry, practices were combined with either older and younger age groups at all times
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/08/21 07:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
absolutely - coaching was a carousel from tourney to tourney, watched certain directors make multiple 9 year old girls cry, practices were combined with either older and younger age groups at all times

When was that? They have new directors/leadership in the last year. When was your kid there. They have dedicated coaching
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/08/21 08:20 PM
Former Jesters parent here for a girl who is now a 24.

I think the Jesters leadership honestly cared which is more than i can say for some other LI clubs. Their supplement programming is as good as any club on the island and close to the level that you see in the top WestChester / CT and Upstate programs.

The challenge with the club is that it is incredibly decentralized at the team level. Every coach is empowered to do with own thing and there is no consistancy between teams even at the same age group. As a result, whenever coaches changed you were going back to ground zero. Top girls from B teams would get promoted and be lost in the offense.

Out only other challenge was roster size. They intentionally pick more girls than needed because they know they will lose some to other clubs, usually YJ. So one year we ended up with 25 on the roster, another year we had 17 or 18.

We left 2 years ago but honestly wish the club nothing but the best. I think if their leadership got more hands on in the operations of the teams, installed a similar offense and defense strategy across all teams, this team could consistently compete with YJ and TG.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/11/21 06:03 AM
Why is there always so much talk about Jesters on this site? Who even cares.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/11/21 11:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is there always so much talk about Jesters on this site? Who even cares.

There is talk about every club on this site
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/11/21 03:14 PM
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/11/21 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.
They have lost to YJA by a combined 4 goals the last three times they played them. Don’t think that’s a team that most would consider overrated. And who cares. They play great lacrosse and seem to be having fun together.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/11/21 05:09 PM
They’re no Empire, that’s for sure.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/11/21 05:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.

Pride Red is out of Northern VA, they are pretty strong team, top-5 in MD area.

But I agree FLG is overrated.

YJ A is top-10 nationally, could say top-5.

Also take fall scores with grain of salt, my DD team beat a top-5 one weekend and lost the next terribly to teams outsude the top-40 due to missing 9 players for fall sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/11/21 05:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.
They have lost to YJA by a combined 4 goals the last three times they played them. Don’t think that’s a team that most would consider overrated. And who cares. They play great lacrosse and seem to be having fun together.
FLG is a great team and so is YJA so who cares about rankings, girls are having fun
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/11/21 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.
FLG will win the next time they play YJA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/11/21 06:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is there always so much talk about Jesters on this site? Who even cares.

Because when posts are anonymous, it’s an easy way to spread false info about your club to make things sound better than they are, truth of the matter is all clubs are basically the same
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/11/21 08:17 PM
Except Jesters
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/11/21 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is there always so much talk about Jesters on this site? Who even cares.

Because when posts are anonymous, it’s an easy way to spread false info about your club to make things sound better than they are, truth of the matter is all clubs are basically the same

There is good and bad spread on here about every club let’s be real
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/14/21 03:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG is a bit overrated. Went down to Maryland and lost to a mid-tier Baltimore team (Pride Red). YJ A is legit.
FLG will win the next time they play YJA
No chance YJ A loses to any LI team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/14/21 05:03 AM
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/14/21 11:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Miss of death. Why would you ever post that. Even if you think it you should never lost it. I wonder how it this is a bunch of 12 yr old girls post I g on here
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/14/21 12:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Miss of death. Why would you ever post that. Even if you think it you should never lost it. I wonder how it this is a bunch of 12 yr old girls post I g on here

Funny reading post of parents who have never been through this before. News flash, wins/losses don't matter. Very soon its about whether your daughter is getting the looks for UA, Nike All star, America select, etc. Only a few per team. The evaluators aren't looking at tourney machine. Focus on your daughter getting better so she is prepared for those evaluations.

PS, the girls don't care 5 minutes after the game is done. Its the dads/moms that care too much.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/14/21 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Miss of death. Why would you ever post that. Even if you think it you should never lost it. I wonder how it this is a bunch of 12 yr old girls post I g on here

Funny reading post of parents who have never been through this before. News flash, wins/losses don't matter. Very soon its about whether your daughter is getting the looks for UA, Nike All star, America select, etc. Only a few per team. The evaluators aren't looking at tourney machine. Focus on your daughter getting better so she is prepared for those evaluations.

PS, the girls don't care 5 minutes after the game is done. Its the dads/moms that care too much.


So true!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/14/21 03:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Miss of death. Why would you ever post that. Even if you think it you should never lost it. I wonder how it this is a bunch of 12 yr old girls post I g on here

Funny reading post of parents who have never been through this before. News flash, wins/losses don't matter. Very soon its about whether your daughter is getting the looks for UA, Nike All star, America select, etc. Only a few per team. The evaluators aren't looking at tourney machine. Focus on your daughter getting better so she is prepared for those evaluations.

PS, the girls don't care 5 minutes after the game is done. Its the dads/moms that care too much.

Well, win losses do matter in some way, you want your kid on the best teams and teams that lose also lose their talent and teams that win retain talent and bring talent in.

My kid is a goalie and I honestly want a good team around her but not a great team. I want her seeing action, not watching her team dominant draws and watch but also not getting shelled because the defense can't keep up.

You are right though, getting seen the key which means you want to play in A brackets and in "big games" against top teams, which will have eyes on them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/14/21 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG will NEVER beat YJ A. Get over it and move on.
Miss of death. Why would you ever post that. Even if you think it you should never lost it. I wonder how it this is a bunch of 12 yr old girls post I g on here

Funny reading post of parents who have never been through this before. News flash, wins/losses don't matter. Very soon its about whether your daughter is getting the looks for UA, Nike All star, America select, etc. Only a few per team. The evaluators aren't looking at tourney machine. Focus on your daughter getting better so she is prepared for those evaluations.

PS, the girls don't care 5 minutes after the game is done. Its the dads/moms that care too much.

Well, win losses do matter in some way, you want your kid on the best teams and teams that lose also lose their talent and teams that win retain talent and bring talent in.

My kid is a goalie and I honestly want a good team around her but not a great team. I want her seeing action, not watching her team dominant draws and watch but also not getting shelled because the defense can't keep up.

You are right though, getting seen the key which means you want to play in A brackets and in "big games" against top teams, which will have eyes on them.

If your daughter doesn't care whether they win / lose.....then I would assume that the team she plays for isn't that competitive or your daughter isn't that competitive. And there is nothing wrong if that gene isn't in her. It doesn't always have to be. There is nothing wrong with playing for the love of the game.

But the best players absolutely care about winning. That is why they play on the best teams. Because if you are not worried about winning and you play on a top team, you won't last long.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/16/21 05:34 PM
Does anyone know what happened to elevate?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/16/21 11:43 PM
They have an older team. Not sure about 27
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 12:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know what happened to elevate?

All the teams are going down the drain. Had two sophomore teams and they dissolved into one very mediocre team. Pretty sure the younger teams aren’t far behind.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 01:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 03:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 12:24 PM
There can only be one club on LI that starts with an E and ends with an E.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 01:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 03:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.

Lack of focus and management by ownership. They used to be very reputable and over the last few years just haven’t done what they need to do to stay competitive. Sad, because it was a very good, well run club in the past. Maybe they should merge with another club? Liberty? That’s a Nassau club too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 05:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There can only be one club on LI that starts with an E and ends with an E.

I thought East Coast Elite dropped their girls program?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 06:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.

Lack of focus and management by ownership. They used to be very reputable and over the last few years just haven’t done what they need to do to stay competitive. Sad, because it was a very good, well run club in the past. Maybe they should merge with another club? Liberty? That’s a Nassau club too.

Liberty at this age is in trouble. You may see that team fall apart after the spring. They are no longer a top team and the girls that are good will be leaving for stronger teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.

Lack of focus and management by ownership. They used to be very reputable and over the last few years just haven’t done what they need to do to stay competitive. Sad, because it was a very good, well run club in the past. Maybe they should merge with another club? Liberty? That’s a Nassau club too.

Liberty at this age is in trouble. You may see that team fall apart after the spring. They are no longer a top team and the girls that are good will be leaving for stronger teams.

Yes lots of movement this past tryout period as girls move to the stronger clubs ahead of high school - agree one more round of that coming up
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 07:13 PM
overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.

curious what makes you say this
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 08:43 PM
Overall numbers down?????? There’s more girls playing travel now than ever. Some clubs are just a money grab, so people move on. It happens in all travel sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 09:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.

that's just wrong....the movement is normal around these grades - just the normal movement where some girls move to more competitive teams and some go the other way - but there are more travel teams than ever that's its actually diluting the talent pool
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 10:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.
Bad program, Bad coaching
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 10:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have an older team. Not sure about 27


Strange. They brought a 26, 28 and 29 to queen of the island.

2027 imploded.

Yep basically 2027 team all left for other teams at once which left no 2027 team.
Bad program, Bad coaching

I'm curious to understand what happens to elevate too. I have a 29 and was looking for a good nassau club for training. Elevate seems to have some good older teams and some good commit but saw their 28 at Queen of the island, which look rather weak.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/17/21 11:56 PM
YJ for all real competitive teams. Most years you can’t go wrong.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/18/21 05:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.
LI 2027 teams:
3 YJ
2 TG
2 Legacy
2 FLG
2 Empire
2 Liberty
2 Jesters(maybe 3?)
1 Tradition
1 91
1 Lax on
1 elevate??
Am I missing anyone?

Seems like a lot of teams on the island, so i think the claim numbers down is a bit off
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/18/21 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.
LI 2027 teams:
3 YJ
2 TG
2 Legacy
2 FLG
2 Empire
2 Liberty
2 Jesters(maybe 3?)
1 Tradition
1 91
1 Lax on
1 elevate??
Am I missing anyone?

Seems like a lot of teams on the island, so i think the claim numbers down is a bit off

S2S has 2 teams as well
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/19/21 12:03 AM
Updated standings and FLG Navy clinging (but not for long) the 10th spot - probably will drop to high teens or low 20’s after this summer and YJB out as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/19/21 12:16 AM
So…..about 15 teams that are money grabs. Happy holidays.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/19/21 01:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Updated standings and FLG Navy clinging (but not for long) the 10th spot - probably will drop to high teens or low 20’s after this summer and YJB out as well.

You really have a thing for Navy. Was your daughter cut?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/19/21 04:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Updated standings and FLG Navy clinging (but not for long) the 10th spot - probably will drop to high teens or low 20’s after this summer and YJB out as well.

You really have a thing for Navy. Was your daughter cut?
Great question
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/19/21 05:12 PM
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/19/21 10:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/20/21 12:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/20/21 01:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

Anecdotal evidence only.

Coppermine for example: A&B teams for 2023, 2024, 2025, 2028, 2029, (A only for 26 & 27)
MD United A&B teams for 2022, 2023, 2025, 2028, 2029 (A only for 24, 26, 27)
M&D just created B team for 2027 level after not having one last year
A few others as well.

May also be, for MD anyways, 2027 seemed to be the last year that club teams for most part started after 3rd grade. Now you see club teams with 3rd grade teams across the board, some with 2nd grade teams, not just your M&D and Hero's, but B clubs.


When my 2027 was in 4th grade, there were 9 teams in NGLL. This year's 4th grade there are currently 18.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/21/21 01:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
overall numbers across the island are down in the 27 class. Means room for fewer travel teams.

curious what makes you say this


PAL numbers over the past 3 to 4 years. 27s have always been lower than comparably other years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/21/21 01:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/21/21 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Is playing soccer or Lacrosse going to help open doors for college? Maybe they should play field hockey ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/21/21 02:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Girls are being forced to specialize at younger and younger ages -in my opinion t's terrible and is a result of $$ infiltrating everything that has to do with youth sports
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/21/21 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Is playing soccer or Lacrosse going to help open doors for college? Maybe they should play field hockey ?

Soccer? That’s an uphill battle, unless you are at elite level, you are competing against international kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/21/21 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Is playing soccer or Lacrosse going to help open doors for college? Maybe they should play field hockey ?

Soccer? That’s an uphill battle, unless you are at elite level, you are competing against international kids.



In some ways, soccer is driving more girls to speciallize in lax earlier. The two top LI girls clubs -- East Meadow and SUSA (Smithtown) both require specialization starting I believe at age 13. As a result many girls who play both are picking one of the other in early middle school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/21/21 04:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Is playing soccer or Lacrosse going to help open doors for college? Maybe they should play field hockey ?

FH opps from LI are few and far between, unfortunately. LI is far behind other regions wheee FH is very strong. It’s a great sport that could open doors, but not really from here
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/21/21 05:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh yeah S2S has 2 and FLG-Blue Devils, so essentially 20 teams in this age group on the island which is a good amount.

We were just discussing this in MD, the 2027 age just doesn’t have as many B C teams nationally, one person pointed out the downturn in economy in 2007-2008, people actively held off having kids, so less born in fall 2008, 2009. Not sure I buy it but interesting thoughts none the less.

Quality seems as high as any year just not the total numbers

Where is this coming from?? Has someone done a census for the number of 2027 girls playing lax? I think we’ve already put to bed that there are probably way TOO many teams not the opposite

I posted the original comment. I was referred to rec not travel. My point is that fewer girls playing rec means fewer potential travel players.

I also think some changes in travel soccer where more top clubs are requiring girls to specialize is playing a role too.

Is playing soccer or Lacrosse going to help open doors for college? Maybe they should play field hockey ?

FH opps from LI are few and far between, unfortunately. LI is far behind other regions wheee FH is very strong. It’s a great sport that could open doors, but not really from here

The same could be said for soccer on Long Island. A ton of girls play it, but even SUSA and East Meadow are only good on Long Island.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/23/21 05:58 PM
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/23/21 11:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/24/21 03:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Sold to whom?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/24/21 03:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/24/21 04:48 AM
No one.... I mean no one...is buying Empire. Grass is a lime yellow green
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/24/21 02:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/24/21 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.


Parents of younger teams have been tryout out for other clubs all month
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/24/21 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.


Parents of younger teams have been tryout out for other clubs all month

Were they informed? And younger as in how young?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/24/21 07:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.


Parents of younger teams have been tryout out for other clubs all month

Tryouts in December?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/26/21 04:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.


Parents of younger teams have been tryout out for other clubs all month

Tryouts in December?

If Liberty news true, would stink as one of the reputable clubs in nassau
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/26/21 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.

It’s real. Not announced yet but done. Btw this isn’t a bad thing. Everything stays in place so as a parent nothing changes. If anything it should improve the comms, logistics, gear package, etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/26/21 08:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.

It’s real. Not announced yet but done. Btw this isn’t a bad thing. Everything stays in place so as a parent nothing changes. If anything it should improve the comms, logistics, gear package, etc.

Who bought them? Not sure I agree your club getting sold is a “good” thing…
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/27/21 01:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.

It’s real. Not announced yet but done. Btw this isn’t a bad thing. Everything stays in place so as a parent nothing changes. If anything it should improve the comms, logistics, gear package, etc.

Who bought them? Not sure I agree your club getting sold is a “good” thing…

Doesn’t matter for the Liberty Black ‘27 team. There will be a mass exodus come spring. If the top players are smart they talking to YJ/FLG trying to get picked before spring (and yes for talented players they do this)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/29/21 09:23 PM
Another club gone? Empire keeps climbing the rankings!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/30/21 12:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not sure if everyone saw, but M&D/Robinson sports were sold to 3 Step who own many lax teams, NGLL and tourney groups.

Wonder the potential implication to YJ/Steps tourneys going forward. Assume no changes this year, but may see some exodus in numbers from the YJ/Steps events.

Liberty also getting sold to a youth sports aggregator

Where did you see the Liberty

And how do you know this? Could be fake news as this rumor has been circulating for months.

Does liberty even play a spring schedule?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/30/21 01:39 PM
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/30/21 04:46 PM
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/30/21 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/30/21 05:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/30/21 06:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
What list and who made this list?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/30/21 10:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/30/21 10:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
So this is a money grab again from LILJ
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/30/21 10:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
What list and who made this list?

The “list” is extremely political. Many deserving girls left off, and some real head scratchers. This organization is for profit (who isn’t in lax?). Overall I think they do a decent job, but they should try to be less bias’s towards pay to play events. They are heavily promoting these “best of LI games” charging $300 a pop for a made up event. I get it’s a business, and everyone wants to be on these lists, but try not to get caught up in it. It’s no Under Armour! For the record, my daughter has always been on the “list”
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/30/21 10:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
So this is a money grab again from LILJ

Precisely.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/31/21 12:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
So this is a money grab again from LILJ

Precisely.

And since there are multiple rounds of the list, if you attend some winter events maybe you will have a chance to make the next round.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/31/21 02:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
So this is a money grab again from LILJ

Precisely.

No point in doing these list for the younger age groups.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/31/21 06:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.
So this is a money grab again from LILJ

Precisely.

No point in doing these list for the younger age groups.


Actually the younger age groups are much more likely to participate in the event. Most older girls are going to various camps and prospect days when the actual tournament is.

Remember this is a cash grab. No more no less
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 12/31/21 05:19 PM
Who are you using for training outside of your team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/01/22 12:39 AM
Private lessons, clinics.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/01/22 02:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/01/22 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!

What names do you hear?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/02/22 06:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!


We like GLE for the strength training and agility. Not as much for the actual lacrosse side of things. (at least for more advanced players, would be fine for younger/rec players trying to get more reps.)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/04/22 02:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!


We like GLE for the strength training and agility. Not as much for the actual lacrosse side of things. (at least for more advanced players, would be fine for younger/rec players trying to get more reps.)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
What list and who made this list?

The “list” is extremely political. Many deserving girls left off, and some real head scratchers. This organization is for profit (who isn’t in lax?). Overall I think they do a decent job, but they should try to be less bias’s towards pay to play events. They are heavily promoting these “best of LI games” charging $300 a pop for a made up event. I get it’s a business, and everyone wants to be on these lists, but try not to get caught up in it. It’s no Under Armour! For the record, my daughter has always been on the “list”

I don't see the list as political but more the top players from the top teams. 80% are from YJ and FLG. It makes sense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/04/22 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is this LILJ all Long Island list that came out? No idea how they landed on a bunch of those names seems a bunch of kids missing that would be much more deserving


This is based on kids who attend their events and clinics (including Queen of the Island). That said, I'd argue most of the names are spot on, those a couple top YJ players are missing-- likely because they don't attend all of the LILJ events.

Where can I find this list
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/04/22 08:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!


We like GLE for the strength training and agility. Not as much for the actual lacrosse side of things. (at least for more advanced players, would be fine for younger/rec players trying to get more reps.)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
What list and who made this list?

The “list” is extremely political. Many deserving girls left off, and some real head scratchers. This organization is for profit (who isn’t in lax?). Overall I think they do a decent job, but they should try to be less bias’s towards pay to play events. They are heavily promoting these “best of LI games” charging $300 a pop for a made up event. I get it’s a business, and everyone wants to be on these lists, but try not to get caught up in it. It’s no Under Armour! For the record, my daughter has always been on the “list”

I don't see the list as political but more the top players from the top teams. 80% are from YJ and FLG. It makes sense.
So what expert picked the names on the list.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 12:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Private lessons, clinics.

But who are you using? I know there are a few names I hear often that people enjoy but would love some recommendations!


We like GLE for the strength training and agility. Not as much for the actual lacrosse side of things. (at least for more advanced players, would be fine for younger/rec players trying to get more reps.)
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s a list your daughter is not on. Get over it. They’re 12 and 13. It’s a little nice thing for the kids. Let them be motivated to try to see their names.

How are they determining this list in 7th grade? Kind of young? Shouldn’t this be HS age girls with established history in LI lacrosse. It’s probably based on girls playing in events that the guys who are choosing this list runs? Don’t let your daughter get caught up in these list. Especially so young. Keep her training hard and staying focused on the upcoming tournaments. If she’s one of the better players , she will get recognized by college coaches when it’s time. Forget list in 7th grade!

Exactly. Good for the girls on the list - but let's be honest, it's based on who paid to attend a camp run by this group. There will be plenty of time for this in a few more years when the girls hit HS and recruiting - ridiculous that they are putting out lists as young as sixth graders based upon absolutely nothing.
What list and who made this list?

The “list” is extremely political. Many deserving girls left off, and some real head scratchers. This organization is for profit (who isn’t in lax?). Overall I think they do a decent job, but they should try to be less bias’s towards pay to play events. They are heavily promoting these “best of LI games” charging $300 a pop for a made up event. I get it’s a business, and everyone wants to be on these lists, but try not to get caught up in it. It’s no Under Armour! For the record, my daughter has always been on the “list”

I don't see the list as political but more the top players from the top teams. 80% are from YJ and FLG. It makes sense.

Since when is FLG a top team?? Just lost me!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 02:20 AM
at the 27 level, FLG is clear #2 team. YJ B (Gaghan) is the only other team that's even close.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 12:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
at the 27 level, FLG is clear #2 team. YJ B (Gaghan) is the only other team that's even close.

That’s great to hear that FLG has a relevant team. Hopefully they can stay together and maintain. 7th grade is pretty young and there is traditionally much movement at this age. Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out by 9th grade
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 12:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are you using for training outside of your team?

GLE
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 12:49 PM
FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
at the 27 level, FLG is clear #2 team. YJ B (Gaghan) is the only other team that's even close.

That’s great to hear that FLG has a relevant team. Hopefully they can stay together and maintain. 7th grade is pretty young and there is traditionally much movement at this age. Will be interesting to see how it all shakes out by 9th grade
FLG 27 navy is a great team with a great coach, that team doesn’t run the offense around the same 2 kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.

That may be true, but who would want to live in or near that cesspool?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 05:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.
FLG has played every team they have lost to within a goal or 2. Aces, Pride and YJ. They seem to play a great team game of lacrosse and are very well coached. Doesn't seem to be any drama within the team either.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 06:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.
FLG has played every team they have lost to within a goal or 2. Aces, Pride and YJ. They seem to play a great team game of lacrosse and are very well coached. Doesn't seem to be any drama within the team either.

all the FLG parents out in full force
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 07:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.

That may be true, but who would want to live in or near that cesspool?

Baltimore? You've been watching too much of The Wire.

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend driving around the city but there is some of the wealthiest areas in the nation 30 min outside the city.


Pride is a top-15 nationally team, no doubt about it. You got Hero's M&D, Aces, YJs then a gap with a bunch of good teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 07:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.
FLG has played every team they have lost to within a goal or 2. Aces, Pride and YJ. They seem to play a great team game of lacrosse and are very well coached. Doesn't seem to be any drama within the team either.

all the FLG parents out in full force

Cant wait for the video commercial after all this written press...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 07:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.

That may be true, but who would want to live in or near that cesspool?

Baltimore? You've been watching too much of The Wire.

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend driving around the city but there is some of the wealthiest areas in the nation 30 min outside the city.


Pride is a top-15 nationally team, no doubt about it. You got Hero's M&D, Aces, YJs then a gap with a bunch of good teams.

As someone who lives near Baltimore I am offended. Lol. Not really.

Baltimore is a cesspool. But not the surrounding areas. Which is where almost all of the players come from.

And as for FLG competing with the top teams from the "cesspool "......um, not likely. Spend a weekend with Hero's Green or M&D.

Of course Aces and YJ are tough, so maybe you would do ok after competing against them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FLG would be mid tier in Baltimore. Pride beat them by a couple and Pride is still a level below Hero’s and M&D.


true but they are still the 2nd best team on the island. Probably same level as prime time if you are looking at metro NY.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 08:26 PM
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/05/22 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 01:29 AM
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 02:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 01:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.

Completely meaningless. Short-handed indoor games with goalie restarts don't predict how teams will do in real lacrosse games.

For example, last year Stars beat M&D.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 02:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.

Completely meaningless. Short-handed indoor games with goalie restarts don't predict how teams will do in real lacrosse games.

For example, last year Stars beat M&D.

It is somewhat meaningless. But you can still tell skill levels, speed and overall talent. What is meaningless is play calling and game planning.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 03:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.

Completely meaningless. Short-handed indoor games with goalie restarts don't predict how teams will do in real lacrosse games.

For example, last year Stars beat M&D.

It is somewhat meaningless. But you can still tell skill levels, speed and overall talent. What is meaningless is play calling and game planning.

Scores are meaningless for indoors, that's the point I think.

Some teams will have the goalie clear to midfield to try and score quick. Teams that are trying to get better will have their goalies move around or dump off to the side, forcing their defender to work on clearing it out.

My daughter played against Top Guns in the fall, they are solid. A few good scorers. I think they are improved from last year and I expect them to be in that 15-25 range at end of summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 03:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.

UNC sent out email yesterday. I can repost here if you aren't on the list. Daughters (24 and 27) went to UNC winter camp and both said it was the best camp they had ever been to by a mile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 03:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.


We went to AU Select. Agree it was very good, not great. That said, I think they need to get away from the region nature of it, at least at the youth levels. Two dominant teams last year (one NY, one MD) and they other teams were pretty overmatched.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 05:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.


We went to AU Select. Agree it was very good, not great. That said, I think they need to get away from the region nature of it, at least at the youth levels. Two dominant teams last year (one NY, one MD) and they other teams were pretty overmatched.

Who runs AU Select, and how political do you think tryouts will be?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 05:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.


We went to AU Select. Agree it was very good, not great. That said, I think they need to get away from the region nature of it, at least at the youth levels. Two dominant teams last year (one NY, one MD) and they other teams were pretty overmatched.

Who runs AU Select, and how political do you think tryouts will be?

Its run by the league itself. AU players are supposedly doing the assessment. Assume LI tryouts will have Kylie, Kerrigan and other local stars judging tryouts
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.


We went to AU Select. Agree it was very good, not great. That said, I think they need to get away from the region nature of it, at least at the youth levels. Two dominant teams last year (one NY, one MD) and they other teams were pretty overmatched.

AU select you mean Athletes Unlimited Features? There was two dominant teams at 2027 level, both MD. Ended up playing each other in championship, neither team lost a game other than to themselves.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.

UNC sent out email yesterday. I can repost here if you aren't on the list. Daughters (24 and 27) went to UNC winter camp and both said it was the best camp they had ever been to by a mile

Yes, please!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.

Completely meaningless. Short-handed indoor games with goalie restarts don't predict how teams will do in real lacrosse games.

For example, last year Stars beat M&D.

It is somewhat meaningless. But you can still tell skill levels, speed and overall talent. What is meaningless is play calling and game planning.

Scores are meaningless for indoors, that's the point I think.

Some teams will have the goalie clear to midfield to try and score quick. Teams that are trying to get better will have their goalies move around or dump off to the side, forcing their defender to work on clearing it out.

My daughter played against Top Guns in the fall, they are solid. A few good scorers. I think they are improved from last year and I expect them to be in that 15-25 range at end of summer.

They better improve by a lot if they expect to be top 20. On a regular outdoor field, they frequently lost to top teams by 10-15
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 08:18 PM
Fake news. Had a nice fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/06/22 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Congrats. 5-5 against C competition. Way to reach for the stars
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/07/22 12:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/07/22 01:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

This is basically a collection of rec teams. Anybody, including TG at the 27' age group would lose to any top 10 A team by a lot
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/07/22 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4


That Colorado Team is pretty good, beat Heros White. Would give problems to a lot of good teams too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/07/22 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

They are a solid team this year. The tournament where they went 0-3 was their first tournament together. The team is half new. The only person writing negatively is the one who’s daughter didn’t make it this year. The previous year everyone just made the team due to COVID. Watch and see. They are good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/07/22 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

This is basically a collection of rec teams. Anybody, including TG at the 27' age group would lose to any top 10 A team by a lot

Steps is generally a good program, but they split their 2 teams relatively evenly at this age group for some reason.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/07/22 02:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.

UNC sent out email yesterday. I can repost here if you aren't on the list. Daughters (24 and 27) went to UNC winter camp and both said it was the best camp they had ever been to by a mile

Yes, please!

BOTC wouldn't let me post full note, but youth camp is June 13-14 with elite camp for 24s and 25s the week after.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/07/22 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Have you started thinking about post-season summer lax stuff? My Daughter wants to do athletes unlimited camp and BC camp.

We did AU last year, it was good, not great coaching time, but great experience and the games were fun. Now that they will have tryouts, it will be a lot more talent I think, rather than last year where most girls were accepted.

I am awaiting the dates of UNC and Duke camps.

UNC sent out email yesterday. I can repost here if you aren't on the list. Daughters (24 and 27) went to UNC winter camp and both said it was the best camp they had ever been to by a mile

Yes, please!

BOTC wouldn't let me post full note, but youth camp is June 13-14 with elite camp for 24s and 25s the week after.

Went to site, thanks!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/07/22 05:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

This is basically a collection of rec teams. Anybody, including TG at the 27' age group would lose to any top 10 A team by a lot

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

They are a solid team this year. The tournament where they went 0-3 was their first tournament together. The team is half new. The only person writing negatively is the one who’s daughter didn’t make it this year. The previous year everyone just made the team due to COVID. Watch and see. They are good.

They are good and other than YJ A top guns can beat any LI team right now
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/07/22 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

This is basically a collection of rec teams. Anybody, including TG at the 27' age group would lose to any top 10 A team by a lot

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

They are a solid team this year. The tournament where they went 0-3 was their first tournament together. The team is half new. The only person writing negatively is the one who’s daughter didn’t make it this year. The previous year everyone just made the team due to COVID. Watch and see. They are good.

They are good and other than YJ A top guns can beat any LI team right now


Good luck to them this weekend. I hope they bring home the championship
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/07/22 06:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

This is basically a collection of rec teams. Anybody, including TG at the 27' age group would lose to any top 10 A team by a lot

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Fake news. Had a nice fall.

Find me a performance that says, this is a top 20 team. Best performance was probably a 3 goal loss to prime time. Sorry but you can't be losing to Virginia and Colorado teams and say this is a top team. They were in an A bracket once and went 0-3.


Date Time Opponent Event Result Fix
2021-11-06 08:45 Big 4 HHH (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 6 - 7
2021-11-06 10:15 Prime Time (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 5 - 8
2021-11-06 11:45 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 Northeast Showcase- 2027 Class 3 - 7
2021-11-13 12:00 3D Colorado AA (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 6 - 2
2021-11-13 14:15 Monster Purple (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 5
2021-11-13 15:45 Team 180 (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 7 - 9
2021-11-14 10:30 TLC Red (2027) 2021 MidAtlantic Showcase: Girls 2027 10 - 1
2021-11-20 12:15 Cav Lax Elite (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 7 - 8
2021-11-20 13:45 STARS Light Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 5 - 1
2021-11-20 15:15 STEPS Elite NJ Blue (2027) LIVE LOVE LAX:GIRLS YOUTH FALL 2021: Healthy 2027 6 - 4

They are a solid team this year. The tournament where they went 0-3 was their first tournament together. The team is half new. The only person writing negatively is the one who’s daughter didn’t make it this year. The previous year everyone just made the team due to COVID. Watch and see. They are good.

They are good and other than YJ A top guns can beat any LI team right now


Agree they are a good (maybe very good) team. That said, I watched one of their games at Live Love Lax and unless they were missing several key players, FLG and YJ B would both beat them by at least 5.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/08/22 03:28 AM
Flg is overrated
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/08/22 12:43 PM
Anyone see this come out? Looks like a two day event similar to the AU Futures. So many camps and clinics nowadays, hard to tell which are legit. and which are not.

https://www.apexlacrosseevents.com/girlsyouthgames
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/08/22 07:08 PM
Would be nice if they took the top “x” players from all over, then jumbled them up so Maryland kids could play with LI kids, could play with Colorado kids etc. Great way to make friends and learn different styles of lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/08/22 07:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone see this come out? Looks like a two day event similar to the AU Futures. So many camps and clinics nowadays, hard to tell which are legit. and which are not.

https://www.apexlacrosseevents.com/girlsyouthgames

Never heard of this event. But the events they run for boys are very well organized and attracted top MD talent.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/09/22 07:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone see this come out? Looks like a two day event similar to the AU Futures. So many camps and clinics nowadays, hard to tell which are legit. and which are not.

https://www.apexlacrosseevents.com/girlsyouthgames

Never heard of this event. But the events they run for boys are very well organized and attracted top MD talent.

It doesn’t even have the price in the registration form. Anything like that is a total money grab.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/10/22 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
wow. this debate has gotten off the rail. The initial question was why so many of the LILJ picks were YJ or FLG. Pretty simple answer is that those are the best 27 teams on the island.

Flg plays cupcake tournaments. Top Guns and YJ B play better comp and are on par with them.

We will see how Top Guns does this weekend.


Top Guns did well, went 1-2 but were within 3-5 goals (beat MDU by 5, lost to LBC by 3) of everyone but BLC who is a top-5 team.

Watching them, I think they have very good scorers, really could change the plane of the shot, used a lot of bounces on the turf. Fields were very narrow, teams that are physical have advantage.

I would put them in front of Monster by a small margin, slightly behind Prime Time.

Hard to say how they translate to outdoor, but shooting is their strength. Emma Ward is going to be a fabulous HC one day.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/12/22 11:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Flg is overrated
Who says?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/13/22 12:31 AM
Everyone…..I mean everyone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/13/22 12:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Flg is overrated
Who says?

Lots of FLG haters. Why?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/13/22 02:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Flg is overrated
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Flg is overrated

Still a better option than ninety one
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/13/22 02:43 AM
At least 91 has a competitive program overall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/13/22 01:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At least 91 has a competitive program overall.


at least?? Really haven't seen much on the girl side.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/13/22 03:21 PM
Hope FLG gets to play YJ B sometime soon so we can put some of these debates to bed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/13/22 03:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hope FLG gets to play YJ B sometime soon so we can put some of these debates to bed.
FLG would win
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/13/22 05:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hope FLG gets to play YJ B sometime soon so we can put some of these debates to bed.
FLG would win

My daughter's team played flg 27 in summer league. Game was extremely competitive and flg was playing up a division. They are smaller in size but move the ball well and make very few mistakes.

Are comments here directed at girls program as a whole? I know their older teams are not very strong but this team can play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/13/22 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hope FLG gets to play YJ B sometime soon so we can put some of these debates to bed.
FLG would win

My daughter's team played flg 27 in summer league. Game was extremely competitive and flg was playing up a division. They are smaller in size but move the ball well and make very few mistakes.

Are comments here directed at girls program as a whole? I know their older teams are not very strong but this team can play.

Definitely stop judging younger FLG teams by what the older teams are doing. Clubs can get stronger. Maybe younger team has a more dedicated coach and more dedicated kids? Things change …
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/14/22 02:27 AM
This FLG team is well balanced with all their girls in top shape. Had a real good team with a great middie and great goalie. They lost 2 good players to YJ and picked up two real good YJ players in return. If this team sticks together, picks up 1 or 2 more players to round off a short roster, they will be a force for several years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/14/22 02:31 AM
Why is FLG and YJB being discussed again? Who’s starting an issue with these 2 teams when there shouldn’t be? Is it YJ A trying to cause a rivalry with those teams, which both by summer will be right on YJ A.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/14/22 12:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This FLG team is well balanced with all their girls in top shape. Had a real good team with a great middie and great goalie. They lost 2 good players to YJ and picked up two real good YJ players in return. If this team sticks together, picks up 1 or 2 more players to round off a short roster, they will be a force for several years.
Once they see that the middie doesn’t play because of mommy and daddy they will also leave, doesn’t matter if the kids great she won’t get playing time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/14/22 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This FLG team is well balanced with all their girls in top shape. Had a real good team with a great middie and great goalie. They lost 2 good players to YJ and picked up two real good YJ players in return. If this team sticks together, picks up 1 or 2 more players to round off a short roster, they will be a force for several years.

Big IF in my opinion. if I was a parent on FLG I'd start to demand that you play in better tournaments and against better competition consistently. The rest of the club is very weak so it's challenging. Playing in these cupcake tournaments beating up on much lower level competition proves nothing and will be tough to hold that team together unless that changes
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/14/22 02:15 PM
Where is the list of FLG college commitments on the girls side? Can’t seem to find that anywhere
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/14/22 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is the list of FLG college commitments on the girls side? Can’t seem to find that anywhere

These girls are in 7th grade, generally they wait until junior year to commit. Come back in 4 years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/14/22 05:01 PM
So …..is there a list? Most competitive programs have one on boys and girls side. I realize they are in 7th grade. But there is a reason some programs are very successful and some aren’t.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/14/22 11:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is the list of FLG college commitments on the girls side? Can’t seem to find that anywhere

These girls are in 7th grade, generally they wait until junior year to commit. Come back in 4 years.

The poster was saying a committed list from older players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/15/22 11:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At least 91 has a competitive program overall.

YJ A and Top Guns are legit in this age group. 91 and LaxOn are definitely much better than they used to be.....the rest are still building and developing
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/18/22 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At least 91 has a competitive program overall.

YJ A and Top Guns are legit in this age group. 91 and LaxOn are definitely much better than they used to be.....the rest are still building and developing

So YJ A and Top Guns are 1, 2 on LI at this age group?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/18/22 08:52 PM
Clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/19/22 01:03 AM
[quote=Anonymous]Clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the teams.[/quote

They are better but not as wide of a margin that most people think.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/19/22 02:18 AM
You’re delusional TG Daddy. Top Guns is below YJ B as well as FLG Navy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/19/22 08:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You’re delusional TG Daddy. Top Guns is below YJ B as well as FLG Navy.

We played both Top Guns and YJ B, Top Guns is the better team based on what I saw personally.

Better shooters, granted, one was indoor, one was field.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/19/22 08:22 PM
[quote=Anonymous]You’re delusional TG Daddy. Top Guns is below YJ B as well as FLG Navy.[/quote

TG daddy not me. Just being honest with my OPINION
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/19/22 08:37 PM
The real top squad is Empire!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/20/22 03:45 AM
Empire has a list of commits! Go chartreuce!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/21/22 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
At least 91 has a competitive program overall.

YJ A and Top Guns are legit in this age group. 91 and LaxOn are definitely much better than they used to be.....the rest are still building and developing

l o l
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/21/22 05:40 PM
People don’t understand your binary codes!!!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/21/22 08:12 PM
Prime Time currently ranked #5, is that legit or overrated? Having played them four times since June, I'm going to say overrated, though they do have two really good scorers.

Based on the math, their two best games was a 17-6 win over HHH National and a 12-2 win over MD United.
I would put YJ A and Top Guns ahead of them, can't speak to FLG as Ive never seen them.

Should be noted they tied YL B team 8-8 in fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/21/22 08:57 PM
Is tg doing the spring league. If so many of your questions will be answered
Yj A
Flg
Jesters
Yj B
Anyone know who else?
Only a month and a half away!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/21/22 09:08 PM
Prime time is somewhere from 10-15. Basically 2 very good players. Well coached. They’re not a top tier team at this age, but can play competitively with some of the clubs on any given day.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/21/22 09:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is tg doing the spring league. If so many of your questions will be answered
Yj A
Flg
Jesters
Yj B
Anyone know who else?
Only a month and a half away!!

Empire doesn't need any questions answered
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/21/22 10:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is tg doing the spring league. If so many of your questions will be answered
Yj A
Flg
Jesters
Yj B
Anyone know who else?
Only a month and a half away!!

What spring league are you referring to?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/21/22 10:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is tg doing the spring league. If so many of your questions will be answered
Yj A
Flg
Jesters
Yj B
Anyone know who else?
Only a month and a half away!!

what spring league? probably another LILJ money grab based on the clubs listed
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/21/22 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is tg doing the spring league. If so many of your questions will be answered
Yj A
Flg
Jesters
Yj B
Anyone know who else?
Only a month and a half away!!

what spring league? probably another LILJ money grab based on the clubs listed
LOL, Everyone sees it
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/22/22 05:02 PM
You can tell everyone on here has a ton of passion for this game. But you can also tell from the threads who has never played a team sport before. There are some great posts with perspective from parents who have been through this before. They seem to resonate most about what to look for in a Team.

Those around 2027 Girls Lacrosse on Long Island are extremely fortunate. We are all treated to watching a very high level of ball. Not to mention these girls are in 7th Grade. The participation at the age is incredible from the PAL level all the way up to the amount of Club Teams we have in the area. If you are new to the area and your daughter has a passion for team sports, it is never too late. And there are really no mistakes given all of the options in the area. Just talk to families within each program and you will know what makes most sense for your daughter.

The Spring-Summer 2021/2022 Club Season is going to be a fun one. You can already feel the energy from the posts in these chats.

In order of where the Teams “ranked” on USCL.com at the end of the 2021 Summer Season. Because players and parents will say they don’t care about rankings, but there are a ton of people who can’t wait for when they get updated every week. Just another question to honestly ask your daughter and family if that means something to them and will it mean something for recruiting down the line.

#6 YELLOW JACKETS– STADLER-STADLER-GRAZIDEI (Fall 2021 #6)
Picks up another great goalie, which was already a strength of the team, and has picked up strong athletes as they always do. Stress levels seem high, but the parents want to see their daughters compete against the best of the best. And they did just that last year showing they could beat anyone when it counted in the Mid-Atlantic. You have to route for this team to do well because it highlights the quality of players we have in this area. You have to feel sorry for the coaches after reading these forums though. But that is the stress when every family expects their daughter to play at a top college program coming off this Team. For those who always ask who is North Shore Elite, they get the majority of their players from this Team and play in tournaments where it is an off weekend for Yellow Jackets. Fear the Bee and many fear battling Carol Rose’s program.

Cons: Constant stress level between parents, players, coaches, etc. When you have so many of the best players on Long Island, you are expected to not only win, but take the game to the next level. Playing time will also be an issue for some who want to play in all of the big games. But you could say that about any Club and that is why it is so important to find a Club where your daughter will play in those big moments. Regardless if they are at the top level of talent or not. That is where they will build confidence.

#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

#20 LIBERTY BLACK (Fall 2021 #27) Lost one very good middie to Yellow Jackets Stadler and the forum erupted especially after losing another top player to YJ Grazidei in 2020. Players who want to play against the best of the best are commonly lured to YJA as the best team on Long Island for 2027. Yet when you talk to families with daughters on this Team, they all seem to be incredibly happy with the coaching and the experience their daughters are getting. We have all read in the forum there seemed to be some perceived drama last season with this Team, but it sounds like people have moved on for various different reasons and there is a good vibe internally with the Team this season. Liberty Lacrosse has been around forever and some will argue they have not been the same since they lost their pipeline from Manhasset, but this is not Danielle Gallagher’s first rodeo and she has produced some incredible Liberty teams through the years. They have two of the best coaches/players in Danielle Gallagher and Amanda Johansen bringing their knowledge of the game through different lenses and different eras. It sounds like this 2027 team gets their time in both clinics and team practices with both. The starters on this Team seem to go about their business with a chip on their shoulder. Highlighted by their battle with North Shore Elite in the Championship Game of the 2021 Lacrosse by 3 Hofstra Summer Tournament, losing by a goal in the final minute and taking out Top Guns Black & Tradition in the same tournament. The Team seems to have two full time coaches with a lot of experience in the game and parents and players alike seem very happy. But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

CONS: According to the forum, the Club “has been sold to a sports aggregator”. That uncertainty is not great but with everything being anonymous in these forums, how much weight should a family place on that. But if true, families need to worry about the Club’s strongest asset in Danielle Gallagher checking out. But in a world where Clubs can make a lot of money, I guess we could all be worried about that with any Club if the price was right! Doubters will point to beatdowns this Fall against Eagle Stix, which was the #1 ranked team at the end of the 2021 season. Yellow Jackets Stadler tied that team this fall, which highlights to people the caliber of athletes at both those programs and questions whether Liberty will ever be able to compete. This team has also been knocked as a team of girls that play soccer, which gets them taking hits for missing fall tournaments like Queen of the Island because of prior soccer commitments. But some will say it is better for girls to be more well-rounded athletes and every college coach looks for the three sport athlete. However, it is important with any of these Clubs that you communicate your daughter’s dedication to each sport and match it with the Club.

#31 Yellow Jackets – Gaghan (Fall Season #12)
Don’t look now but there is a lot of energy and positivity coming out of this team in the Fall. Making a huge jump in the rankings and feeling confident about running with anyone on the Island. Doubters will point to all their better players ultimately getting nabbed by Stadler’s YJ Team, but we have already seen that with all of the other programs. While I think some parents are hoping they can run with YJ Stadler, it is going to be a lot more fun watching what they can do against FLG, Top Guns, & Liberty Black. It sets up for some battles to start the Club Season at the Spring Queen of the Island.

Cons: Turnover has been a real issue with this team, but something easily solved with a strong Spring-Summer season. You will always have to hear about “your older sister” in YJA, but for those who are strong enough to block that out, you are getting a ton of playing time in all the same tournaments that Carol Rose will get YJA into. But if the positive energy fades because of losses against Maryland teams and top Long Island teams, parents and players may look to move out of the shadow into other programs in the Top 5.

#36 Top Gun Blacks (Fall Season 2021 #21)
A ton of buzz coming out of the Shannon Smith led Top Guns Black team already this year. This team is coached by Shannon’s brother and Emma Ward, who is always swarmed at tournaments by girls of all ages. They attracted a ton of great players who wanted playing time and were confident that Top Guns would put them in all the right tournaments. Playing time in top tournaments is important and it has allowed this team to attract even more talent in the off-season. People knock them for loses like the game against Liberty Black in the Hofstra tournament last fall, but this is a different team and have high aspirations. Top Guns could see an influx of even more top players with a great season in 2022.

CONS: Parents have complained about coaching and some sideline antics, but not sure if there has been much attrition of players so it seems like noise that is common in this forum for all Clubs.

#30 Empire (Fall Season #63)
You have to LOVE the enthusiasm out of the Empire posts. Pure positivity from someone passionately believing in their Team. Likely will not compete with any of the Teams above, but for many does it even matter if their daughters are having a blast playing the game with friends. It sounds like a nice place for a lot of players on the Island. And the joy they will have if they were able to beat any of the teams above!


I hope this helps those who were new to the area or those who’s daughter might be looking for something better suited to her ability and desire. Let the debating begin. But regardless of your thoughts, everyone will agree that there is some great lacrosse ahead of us this season and we are fortunate to watch it and the girls are blessed to play it.


#takeareport
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/22/22 10:08 PM
Empire 4 Life!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/22/22 10:13 PM
To summarize that very well thought out long post. Find what’s best for your kid. Not you….your kid.

Ps. There’s also some other good travel teams around. Rankings aren’t everything. Well, sometimes they are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/22/22 10:16 PM
Some doesn’t have a job.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/22/22 10:23 PM
You know way too much about 12 year old girls lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/23/22 02:13 AM
[quote=Anonymous]You can tell everyone on here has a ton of passion for this game. But you can also tell from the threads who has never played a team sport before. There are some great posts with perspective from parents who have been through this before. They seem to resonate most about what to look for in a Team.

Those around 2027 Girls Lacrosse on Long Island are extremely fortunate. We are all treated to watching a very high level of ball. Not to mention these girls are in 7th Grade. The participation at the age is incredible from the PAL level all the way up to the amount of Club Teams we have in the area. If you are new to the area and your daughter has a passion for team sports, it is never too late. And there are really no mistakes given all of the options in the area. Just talk to families within each program and you will know what makes most sense for your daughter.

The Spring-Summer 2021/2022 Club Season is going to be a fun one. You can already feel the energy from the posts in these chats.

In order of where the Teams “ranked” on USCL.com at the end of the 2021 Summer Season. Because players and parents will say they don’t care about rankings, but there are a ton of people who can’t wait for when they get updated every week. Just another question to honestly ask your daughter and family if that means something to them and will it mean something for recruiting down the line.

#6 YELLOW JACKETS– STADLER-STADLER-GRAZIDEI (Fall 2021 #6)
Picks up another great goalie, which was already a strength of the team, and has picked up strong athletes as they always do. Stress levels seem high, but the parents want to see their daughters compete against the best of the best. And they did just that last year showing they could beat anyone when it counted in the Mid-Atlantic. You have to route for this team to do well because it highlights the quality of players we have in this area. You have to feel sorry for the coaches after reading these forums though. But that is the stress when every family expects their daughter to play at a top college program coming off this Team. For those who always ask who is North Shore Elite, they get the majority of their players from this Team and play in tournaments where it is an off weekend for Yellow Jackets. Fear the Bee and many fear battling Carol Rose’s program.

Cons: Constant stress level between parents, players, coaches, etc. When you have so many of the best players on Long Island, you are expected to not only win, but take the game to the next level. Playing time will also be an issue for some who want to play in all of the big games. But you could say that about any Club and that is why it is so important to find a Club where your daughter will play in those big moments. Regardless if they are at the top level of talent or not. That is where they will build confidence.

#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

#20 LIBERTY BLACK (Fall 2021 #27) Lost one very good middie to Yellow Jackets Stadler and the forum erupted especially after losing another top player to YJ Grazidei in 2020. Players who want to play against the best of the best are commonly lured to YJA as the best team on Long Island for 2027. Yet when you talk to families with daughters on this Team, they all seem to be incredibly happy with the coaching and the experience their daughters are getting. We have all read in the forum there seemed to be some perceived drama last season with this Team, but it sounds like people have moved on for various different reasons and there is a good vibe internally with the Team this season. Liberty Lacrosse has been around forever and some will argue they have not been the same since they lost their pipeline from Manhasset, but this is not Danielle Gallagher’s first rodeo and she has produced some incredible Liberty teams through the years. They have two of the best coaches/players in Danielle Gallagher and Amanda Johansen bringing their knowledge of the game through different lenses and different eras. It sounds like this 2027 team gets their time in both clinics and team practices with both. The starters on this Team seem to go about their business with a chip on their shoulder. Highlighted by their battle with North Shore Elite in the Championship Game of the 2021 Lacrosse by 3 Hofstra Summer Tournament, losing by a goal in the final minute and taking out Top Guns Black & Tradition in the same tournament. The Team seems to have two full time coaches with a lot of experience in the game and parents and players alike seem very happy. But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

CONS: According to the forum, the Club “has been sold to a sports aggregator”. That uncertainty is not great but with everything being anonymous in these forums, how much weight should a family place on that. But if true, families need to worry about the Club’s strongest asset in Danielle Gallagher checking out. But in a world where Clubs can make a lot of money, I guess we could all be worried about that with any Club if the price was right! Doubters will point to beatdowns this Fall against Eagle Stix, which was the #1 ranked team at the end of the 2021 season. Yellow Jackets Stadler tied that team this fall, which highlights to people the caliber of athletes at both those programs and questions whether Liberty will ever be able to compete. This team has also been knocked as a team of girls that play soccer, which gets them taking hits for missing fall tournaments like Queen of the Island because of prior soccer commitments. But some will say it is better for girls to be more well-rounded athletes and every college coach looks for the three sport athlete. However, it is important with any of these Clubs that you communicate your daughter’s dedication to each sport and match it with the Club.

#31 Yellow Jackets – Gaghan (Fall Season #12)
Don’t look now but there is a lot of energy and positivity coming out of this team in the Fall. Making a huge jump in the rankings and feeling confident about running with anyone on the Island. Doubters will point to all their better players ultimately getting nabbed by Stadler’s YJ Team, but we have already seen that with all of the other programs. While I think some parents are hoping they can run with YJ Stadler, it is going to be a lot more fun watching what they can do against FLG, Top Guns, & Liberty Black. It sets up for some battles to start the Club Season at the Spring Queen of the Island.

Cons: Turnover has been a real issue with this team, but something easily solved with a strong Spring-Summer season. You will always have to hear about “your older sister” in YJA, but for those who are strong enough to block that out, you are getting a ton of playing time in all the same tournaments that Carol Rose will get YJA into. But if the positive energy fades because of losses against Maryland teams and top Long Island teams, parents and players may look to move out of the shadow into other programs in the Top 5.

#36 Top Gun Blacks (Fall Season 2021 #21)
A ton of buzz coming out of the Shannon Smith led Top Guns Black team already this year. This team is coached by Shannon’s brother and Emma Ward, who is always swarmed at tournaments by girls of all ages. They attracted a ton of great players who wanted playing time and were confident that Top Guns would put them in all the right tournaments. Playing time in top tournaments is important and it has allowed this team to attract even more talent in the off-season. People knock them for loses like the game against Liberty Black in the Hofstra tournament last fall, but this is a different team and have high aspirations. Top Guns could see an influx of even more top players with a great season in 2022.

CONS: Parents have complained about coaching and some sideline antics, but not sure if there has been much attrition of players so it seems like noise that is common in this forum for all Clubs.

#30 Empire (Fall Season #63)
You have to LOVE the enthusiasm out of the Empire posts. Pure positivity from someone passionately believing in their Team. Likely will not compete with any of the Teams above, but for many does it even matter if their daughters are having a blast playing the game with friends. It sounds like a nice place for a lot of players on the Island. And the joy they will have if they were able to beat any of the teams above!


I hope this helps those who were new to the area or those who’s daughter might be looking for something better suited to her ability and desire. Let the debating begin. But regardless of your thoughts, everyone will agree that there is some great lacrosse ahead of us this season and we are fortunate to watch it and the girls are blessed to play it.


#takeareport[/quote

Wow not even a mention of Jesters….the disrespect.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/23/22 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can tell everyone on here has a ton of passion for this game. But you can also tell from the threads who has never played a team sport before. There are some great posts with perspective from parents who have been through this before. They seem to resonate most about what to look for in a Team.

Those around 2027 Girls Lacrosse on Long Island are extremely fortunate. We are all treated to watching a very high level of ball. Not to mention these girls are in 7th Grade. The participation at the age is incredible from the PAL level all the way up to the amount of Club Teams we have in the area. If you are new to the area and your daughter has a passion for team sports, it is never too late. And there are really no mistakes given all of the options in the area. Just talk to families within each program and you will know what makes most sense for your daughter.

The Spring-Summer 2021/2022 Club Season is going to be a fun one. You can already feel the energy from the posts in these chats.

In order of where the Teams “ranked” on USCL.com at the end of the 2021 Summer Season. Because players and parents will say they don’t care about rankings, but there are a ton of people who can’t wait for when they get updated every week. Just another question to honestly ask your daughter and family if that means something to them and will it mean something for recruiting down the line.

#6 YELLOW JACKETS– STADLER-STADLER-GRAZIDEI (Fall 2021 #6)
Picks up another great goalie, which was already a strength of the team, and has picked up strong athletes as they always do. Stress levels seem high, but the parents want to see their daughters compete against the best of the best. And they did just that last year showing they could beat anyone when it counted in the Mid-Atlantic. You have to route for this team to do well because it highlights the quality of players we have in this area. You have to feel sorry for the coaches after reading these forums though. But that is the stress when every family expects their daughter to play at a top college program coming off this Team. For those who always ask who is North Shore Elite, they get the majority of their players from this Team and play in tournaments where it is an off weekend for Yellow Jackets. Fear the Bee and many fear battling Carol Rose’s program.

Cons: Constant stress level between parents, players, coaches, etc. When you have so many of the best players on Long Island, you are expected to not only win, but take the game to the next level. Playing time will also be an issue for some who want to play in all of the big games. But you could say that about any Club and that is why it is so important to find a Club where your daughter will play in those big moments. Regardless if they are at the top level of talent or not. That is where they will build confidence.

#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

#20 LIBERTY BLACK (Fall 2021 #27) Lost one very good middie to Yellow Jackets Stadler and the forum erupted especially after losing another top player to YJ Grazidei in 2020. Players who want to play against the best of the best are commonly lured to YJA as the best team on Long Island for 2027. Yet when you talk to families with daughters on this Team, they all seem to be incredibly happy with the coaching and the experience their daughters are getting. We have all read in the forum there seemed to be some perceived drama last season with this Team, but it sounds like people have moved on for various different reasons and there is a good vibe internally with the Team this season. Liberty Lacrosse has been around forever and some will argue they have not been the same since they lost their pipeline from Manhasset, but this is not Danielle Gallagher’s first rodeo and she has produced some incredible Liberty teams through the years. They have two of the best coaches/players in Danielle Gallagher and Amanda Johansen bringing their knowledge of the game through different lenses and different eras. It sounds like this 2027 team gets their time in both clinics and team practices with both. The starters on this Team seem to go about their business with a chip on their shoulder. Highlighted by their battle with North Shore Elite in the Championship Game of the 2021 Lacrosse by 3 Hofstra Summer Tournament, losing by a goal in the final minute and taking out Top Guns Black & Tradition in the same tournament. The Team seems to have two full time coaches with a lot of experience in the game and parents and players alike seem very happy. But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

CONS: According to the forum, the Club “has been sold to a sports aggregator”. That uncertainty is not great but with everything being anonymous in these forums, how much weight should a family place on that. But if true, families need to worry about the Club’s strongest asset in Danielle Gallagher checking out. But in a world where Clubs can make a lot of money, I guess we could all be worried about that with any Club if the price was right! Doubters will point to beatdowns this Fall against Eagle Stix, which was the #1 ranked team at the end of the 2021 season. Yellow Jackets Stadler tied that team this fall, which highlights to people the caliber of athletes at both those programs and questions whether Liberty will ever be able to compete. This team has also been knocked as a team of girls that play soccer, which gets them taking hits for missing fall tournaments like Queen of the Island because of prior soccer commitments. But some will say it is better for girls to be more well-rounded athletes and every college coach looks for the three sport athlete. However, it is important with any of these Clubs that you communicate your daughter’s dedication to each sport and match it with the Club.

#31 Yellow Jackets – Gaghan (Fall Season #12)
Don’t look now but there is a lot of energy and positivity coming out of this team in the Fall. Making a huge jump in the rankings and feeling confident about running with anyone on the Island. Doubters will point to all their better players ultimately getting nabbed by Stadler’s YJ Team, but we have already seen that with all of the other programs. While I think some parents are hoping they can run with YJ Stadler, it is going to be a lot more fun watching what they can do against FLG, Top Guns, & Liberty Black. It sets up for some battles to start the Club Season at the Spring Queen of the Island.

Cons: Turnover has been a real issue with this team, but something easily solved with a strong Spring-Summer season. You will always have to hear about “your older sister” in YJA, but for those who are strong enough to block that out, you are getting a ton of playing time in all the same tournaments that Carol Rose will get YJA into. But if the positive energy fades because of losses against Maryland teams and top Long Island teams, parents and players may look to move out of the shadow into other programs in the Top 5.

#36 Top Gun Blacks (Fall Season 2021 #21)
A ton of buzz coming out of the Shannon Smith led Top Guns Black team already this year. This team is coached by Shannon’s brother and Emma Ward, who is always swarmed at tournaments by girls of all ages. They attracted a ton of great players who wanted playing time and were confident that Top Guns would put them in all the right tournaments. Playing time in top tournaments is important and it has allowed this team to attract even more talent in the off-season. People knock them for loses like the game against Liberty Black in the Hofstra tournament last fall, but this is a different team and have high aspirations. Top Guns could see an influx of even more top players with a great season in 2022.

CONS: Parents have complained about coaching and some sideline antics, but not sure if there has been much attrition of players so it seems like noise that is common in this forum for all Clubs.

#30 Empire (Fall Season #63)
You have to LOVE the enthusiasm out of the Empire posts. Pure positivity from someone passionately believing in their Team. Likely will not compete with any of the Teams above, but for many does it even matter if their daughters are having a blast playing the game with friends. It sounds like a nice place for a lot of players on the Island. And the joy they will have if they were able to beat any of the teams above!


I hope this helps those who were new to the area or those who’s daughter might be looking for something better suited to her ability and desire. Let the debating begin. But regardless of your thoughts, everyone will agree that there is some great lacrosse ahead of us this season and we are fortunate to watch it and the girls are blessed to play it.


#takeareport

Oh lord. You must be the same lost who was posting these breakdowns on the boys page. Get a life creep
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/23/22 03:23 AM
Some great content in the long post and I agree with 90% of it.

The big point where I disagree is around around tournament selection.

The top tourneys (lax for the cure, Live Love Lax and a couple others) already have waitlists. If you aren't playing in these tourneys as a 7th grader, there is very little change your club will get in by the time it matters. You will see several clubs with uncompetitive middle school teams register for this reason. They know if they aren't in now, they will never get in.

That pretty leaves G8 (which is invite only) and Mid Atlantic Summer championship) as the only potential summer tourneys. This is not a small deal and will hurt any chance FLG and to a lesser extent Tradition have at retaining their top players. This is not a small deal. This is the reason you always see the same teams compile talent by 9th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/23/22 05:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You can tell everyone on here has a ton of passion for this game. But you can also tell from the threads who has never played a team sport before. There are some great posts with perspective from parents who have been through this before. They seem to resonate most about what to look for in a Team.

Those around 2027 Girls Lacrosse on Long Island are extremely fortunate. We are all treated to watching a very high level of ball. Not to mention these girls are in 7th Grade. The participation at the age is incredible from the PAL level all the way up to the amount of Club Teams we have in the area. If you are new to the area and your daughter has a passion for team sports, it is never too late. And there are really no mistakes given all of the options in the area. Just talk to families within each program and you will know what makes most sense for your daughter.

The Spring-Summer 2021/2022 Club Season is going to be a fun one. You can already feel the energy from the posts in these chats.

In order of where the Teams “ranked” on USCL.com at the end of the 2021 Summer Season. Because players and parents will say they don’t care about rankings, but there are a ton of people who can’t wait for when they get updated every week. Just another question to honestly ask your daughter and family if that means something to them and will it mean something for recruiting down the line.

#6 YELLOW JACKETS– STADLER-STADLER-GRAZIDEI (Fall 2021 #6)
Picks up another great goalie, which was already a strength of the team, and has picked up strong athletes as they always do. Stress levels seem high, but the parents want to see their daughters compete against the best of the best. And they did just that last year showing they could beat anyone when it counted in the Mid-Atlantic. You have to route for this team to do well because it highlights the quality of players we have in this area. You have to feel sorry for the coaches after reading these forums though. But that is the stress when every family expects their daughter to play at a top college program coming off this Team. For those who always ask who is North Shore Elite, they get the majority of their players from this Team and play in tournaments where it is an off weekend for Yellow Jackets. Fear the Bee and many fear battling Carol Rose’s program.

Cons: Constant stress level between parents, players, coaches, etc. When you have so many of the best players on Long Island, you are expected to not only win, but take the game to the next level. Playing time will also be an issue for some who want to play in all of the big games. But you could say that about any Club and that is why it is so important to find a Club where your daughter will play in those big moments. Regardless if they are at the top level of talent or not. That is where they will build confidence.

#9 FLG NAVY (Fall 2021 #8)
The 2027 Team carries this entire Club on it’s shoulders and they are doing an incredible job with it and are not phased. They have been very well coached for years. They have always played well as a Team and seem to show up in the big moments WHEN they are put in the right tournaments. Parents and doubters alike always question the tournament choices of this Club. It is always healthy though to see your daughter prove out the hard work and go win some tournaments. This Team has produced some great players and lost a few goods ones this year. The Team seemed to show up this Fall as strong as ever despite losing a top goalie and strong middie to YJA and a good attacker to Top Guns. They battled YJA hard this fall as they always do in Queen of the Island tournaments. It will be fun to see if they can pull off the upset in the Spring. Another positive and what lures some families, is the attachment to LILJ. LILJ has done a great job trying to get as much content as possible across all levels of the game on Long Island. Every parent and player likes to read about out their daughter/themselves in the local rags. Marketing is a key strength of this program. And they are now creating “Select” Teams that will mean something to a lot of people. But FLG has produced talent at this level. But we are fortunate to be able to say that about all of the top 6 Club Teams on Long Island.

Cons: Parents fearful they won’t play in the right tournaments when the girls are older. How much is that the case these days and do you have to worry about it when you have a really good Team? Are you telling me TRADITION 2027 won’t get into top tournaments in a few years. That Team has put a TON of hard work in this Fall Season and have looked aggressive and prepared every time they stepped on the field. The other complaint about FLG NAVY is who is actually coaching the players during the week. Is this really an issue when the Team always seems disciplined and strong when they are put in the “right” tournaments.

#20 LIBERTY BLACK (Fall 2021 #27) Lost one very good middie to Yellow Jackets Stadler and the forum erupted especially after losing another top player to YJ Grazidei in 2020. Players who want to play against the best of the best are commonly lured to YJA as the best team on Long Island for 2027. Yet when you talk to families with daughters on this Team, they all seem to be incredibly happy with the coaching and the experience their daughters are getting. We have all read in the forum there seemed to be some perceived drama last season with this Team, but it sounds like people have moved on for various different reasons and there is a good vibe internally with the Team this season. Liberty Lacrosse has been around forever and some will argue they have not been the same since they lost their pipeline from Manhasset, but this is not Danielle Gallagher’s first rodeo and she has produced some incredible Liberty teams through the years. They have two of the best coaches/players in Danielle Gallagher and Amanda Johansen bringing their knowledge of the game through different lenses and different eras. It sounds like this 2027 team gets their time in both clinics and team practices with both. The starters on this Team seem to go about their business with a chip on their shoulder. Highlighted by their battle with North Shore Elite in the Championship Game of the 2021 Lacrosse by 3 Hofstra Summer Tournament, losing by a goal in the final minute and taking out Top Guns Black & Tradition in the same tournament. The Team seems to have two full time coaches with a lot of experience in the game and parents and players alike seem very happy. But they have a challenge ahead of them playing in many of the top tournaments this season. They will have to prove they should be in the conversation behind YJ Stadler with FLG NAVY, Top Gun, and Yellow Jackets Gaghan. And if they perform well this Spring/Summer you will see good players, not getting to play in those big moments elsewhere, wanting to join the party.

CONS: According to the forum, the Club “has been sold to a sports aggregator”. That uncertainty is not great but with everything being anonymous in these forums, how much weight should a family place on that. But if true, families need to worry about the Club’s strongest asset in Danielle Gallagher checking out. But in a world where Clubs can make a lot of money, I guess we could all be worried about that with any Club if the price was right! Doubters will point to beatdowns this Fall against Eagle Stix, which was the #1 ranked team at the end of the 2021 season. Yellow Jackets Stadler tied that team this fall, which highlights to people the caliber of athletes at both those programs and questions whether Liberty will ever be able to compete. This team has also been knocked as a team of girls that play soccer, which gets them taking hits for missing fall tournaments like Queen of the Island because of prior soccer commitments. But some will say it is better for girls to be more well-rounded athletes and every college coach looks for the three sport athlete. However, it is important with any of these Clubs that you communicate your daughter’s dedication to each sport and match it with the Club.

#31 Yellow Jackets – Gaghan (Fall Season #12)
Don’t look now but there is a lot of energy and positivity coming out of this team in the Fall. Making a huge jump in the rankings and feeling confident about running with anyone on the Island. Doubters will point to all their better players ultimately getting nabbed by Stadler’s YJ Team, but we have already seen that with all of the other programs. While I think some parents are hoping they can run with YJ Stadler, it is going to be a lot more fun watching what they can do against FLG, Top Guns, & Liberty Black. It sets up for some battles to start the Club Season at the Spring Queen of the Island.

Cons: Turnover has been a real issue with this team, but something easily solved with a strong Spring-Summer season. You will always have to hear about “your older sister” in YJA, but for those who are strong enough to block that out, you are getting a ton of playing time in all the same tournaments that Carol Rose will get YJA into. But if the positive energy fades because of losses against Maryland teams and top Long Island teams, parents and players may look to move out of the shadow into other programs in the Top 5.

#36 Top Gun Blacks (Fall Season 2021 #21)
A ton of buzz coming out of the Shannon Smith led Top Guns Black team already this year. This team is coached by Shannon’s brother and Emma Ward, who is always swarmed at tournaments by girls of all ages. They attracted a ton of great players who wanted playing time and were confident that Top Guns would put them in all the right tournaments. Playing time in top tournaments is important and it has allowed this team to attract even more talent in the off-season. People knock them for loses like the game against Liberty Black in the Hofstra tournament last fall, but this is a different team and have high aspirations. Top Guns could see an influx of even more top players with a great season in 2022.

CONS: Parents have complained about coaching and some sideline antics, but not sure if there has been much attrition of players so it seems like noise that is common in this forum for all Clubs.

#30 Empire (Fall Season #63)
You have to LOVE the enthusiasm out of the Empire posts. Pure positivity from someone passionately believing in their Team. Likely will not compete with any of the Teams above, but for many does it even matter if their daughters are having a blast playing the game with friends. It sounds like a nice place for a lot of players on the Island. And the joy they will have if they were able to beat any of the teams above!


I hope this helps those who were new to the area or those who’s daughter might be looking for something better suited to her ability and desire. Let the debating begin. But regardless of your thoughts, everyone will agree that there is some great lacrosse ahead of us this season and we are fortunate to watch it and the girls are blessed to play it.


#takeareport

Oh lord. You must be the same lost who was posting these breakdowns on the boys page. Get a life creep

OMFG. Psycho YJ daddy. We all know you post on here and the same creepy level of detail you post you also say the same garbage at a winter indoor practice. Wow.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/23/22 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some great content in the long post and I agree with 90% of it.

The big point where I disagree is around around tournament selection.

The top tourneys (lax for the cure, Live Love Lax and a couple others) already have waitlists. If you aren't playing in these tourneys as a 7th grader, there is very little change your club will get in by the time it matters. You will see several clubs with uncompetitive middle school teams register for this reason. They know if they aren't in now, they will never get in.

That pretty leaves G8 (which is invite only) and Mid Atlantic Summer championship) as the only potential summer tourneys. This is not a small deal and will hurt any chance FLG and to a lesser extent Tradition have at retaining their top players. This is not a small deal. This is the reason you always see the same teams compile talent by 9th grade.

With all the showcases now, summer tourneys are hardly the best all end all. America Select, Nike, under armor, etc. Those matter more than club tourneys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/23/22 06:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some great content in the long post and I agree with 90% of it.

The big point where I disagree is around around tournament selection.

The top tourneys (lax for the cure, Live Love Lax and a couple others) already have waitlists. If you aren't playing in these tourneys as a 7th grader, there is very little change your club will get in by the time it matters. You will see several clubs with uncompetitive middle school teams register for this reason. They know if they aren't in now, they will never get in.

That pretty leaves G8 (which is invite only) and Mid Atlantic Summer championship) as the only potential summer tourneys. This is not a small deal and will hurt any chance FLG and to a lesser extent Tradition have at retaining their top players. This is not a small deal. This is the reason you always see the same teams compile talent by 9th grade.

With all the showcases now, summer tourneys are hardly the best all end all. America Select, Nike, under armor, etc. Those matter more than club tourneys.

If this was a Colorado or Virginia forum, I would agree. Reality though is that there are many D1-caliber LI players who won't make those teams and need exposure. Lets also remember the politics that go into selection. Will be very few spots for girls who don't play for YJ or TG.

Also based on experience with my oldest daughter. The most recruiters I ever saw at a single game was during the YJ / SW Blue game at Lax for the cure last year. At least 50 coaches 3 deep at that game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022 - 01/23/22 09:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Some great content in the long post and I agree with 90% of it.

The big point where I disagree is around around tournament selection.

The top tourneys (lax for the cure, Live Love Lax and a couple others) already have waitlists. If you aren't playing in these tourneys as a 7th grader, there is very little change your club will get in by the time it matters. You will see several clubs with uncompetitive middle school teams register for this reason. They know if they aren't in now, they will never get in.

That pretty leaves G8 (which is invite only) and Mid Atlantic Summer championship) as the only potential summer tourneys. This is not a small deal and will hurt any chance FLG and to a lesser extent Tradition have at retaining their top players. This is not a small deal. This is the reason you always see the same teams compile talent by 9th grade.

With all the showcases now, summer tourneys are hardly the best all end all. America Select, Nike, under armor, etc. Those matter more than club tourneys.

Keep telling yourself that FLG dad
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