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Information, discussions, and questions covering the teams, clubs, and players in the Girls 2016 age group can be posted here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by CageSage
Information, discussions, and questions covering the teams, clubs, and players in the Girls 2016 age group can be posted here.

May as well add threads for all the girls years at this point, 2017, 2018. Plus 2019 teams will be forming right now to play in next summer tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
The top teams in theis age group are???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
during this past tournament season I had the opportunity to see the following teams play:
Topguns 2016
Suffolk County Allstars 2016
LI Express 2016

I did not see the Yellow jackets 2016 although I saw the results of several top tournanments in which they finished on top.

Also I know tha the LI Express bet both the Topguns and Allstars at Best of the beach

Anyone know the results of a YJ and Express match-up?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
What about Liberty? Are they competitive in this age baracket?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Top teams in this age group wouold be
1) YJ blue have not lost to a team in their own age group in tournaments that have playoffs ie when teams are playing it to win.
2)Express, Suffolk county all-stars,Wantagh travel team, all are about on same level
3) yellow jackets gold, Top Guns,
4) Liberty
Yes Yellow jackets and express did play I believe it was at lax for the cure semi finals with YJ winning in a short game by about 3 goals
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
To the persons on the other threads declaring suffolk all-stars to be the best having beaten the yj blue 2x in the past year, give me a break. If you ever beat them in a championship tournament then I will give you some credit but when you played them at the draw you were shut out 0 goals. I do not think I have ever seen any Yj team get shut out. By the way how did you do this weekend at hofstra when you played a team made up of yj blue players in the last game of the day.By the way that team that beat you with ease had 0 subs (the same number of goals you had at the draw)and was missing many of their better players while you guys were at full strength.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To the persons on the other threads declaring suffolk all-stars to be the best having beaten the yj blue 2x in the past year, give me a break. If you ever beat them in a championship tournament then I will give you some credit but when you played them at the draw you were shut out 0 goals. I do not think I have ever seen any Yj team get shut out. By the way how did you do this weekend at hofstra when you played a team made up of yj blue players in the last game of the day.By the way that team that beat you with ease had 0 subs (the same number of goals you had at the draw)and was missing many of their better players while you guys were at full strength.


The YJs lost to Suffolk County All Stars, deal with it and stop with the excuses
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
To the persons on the other threads declaring suffolk all-stars to be the best having beaten the yj blue 2x in the past year, give me a break. If you ever beat them in a championship tournament then I will give you some credit but when you played them at the draw you were shut out 0 goals. I do not think I have ever seen any Yj team get shut out. By the way how did you do this weekend at hofstra when you played a team made up of yj blue players in the last game of the day.By the way that team that beat you with ease had 0 subs (the same number of goals you had at the draw)and was missing many of their better players while you guys were at full strength.


The YJs lost to Suffolk County All Stars, deal with it and stop with the excuses

The Yankees lost 2 games to the Mets this year! That doesn't mean the Mets are a better team! and I am a Met fan! Suffolk All stars are not as good as YJ blue, but they have some good players. Sometimes the better team doesn't win! Especially in Girls lax and the ultra subjective rules!but a win is a win. Congrats!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
"The YJs lost to Suffolk County All Stars, deal with it and stop with the excuses."
How did you do against yj at the national draw,how did you do against a team of Yj from only 2 towns this weekend at Hofstra.How did you do against the starting line of yj gold this past weekend I heard it was 4-o then they put in the back-ups. When you beat the YJ blue team where the kids from YJ playing out of position the whole game, I have yet to here one scas parent claim that the Yj players were not all out of position.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
congrats to 2016 Allstars, way to go
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
because yj blue dont play a lot of teams in there age, they usually play down when they play a long island team, they want to spare the embarassment if they lose. And everybody says this, this is not one persons opinion. at the tournaments the buzz is , what younger team is Yj blue beating up on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Not quite sure what you are talking about. I have never seen the yj blue teams play younger teams unless on occasion they play other yj teams who happen to be playing in older divisions.
I have a child who played for express and have played both yj blue and suffolk all-stars. We beat suffolk all-stars and we were beaten by yj blue . In my opinion the better players on yj blue were the more athletic and probably the best players I had seen in that age group. The all-stars may have been better coached running more plays etc. but would be surprised if all-stars would beat them if both teams going all-out.My mediocre town team beat the all-stars in the indoor league last winter but I would not assume the same would happen when all-stars are trying their hardest.Yj blue starters do seem to be physically larger and I have heard that a good number are hold backs but do not know that for a fact.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
First let me state some facts. I have a child on 2016 yj gold.Yes I watched the delaware game in which all-stars beat yj blue by 1 goal.Yes the yj played out of their normal positions the entire game ,defense playing attack ,attack playing defense, both goalies playing equal time etc..Yj down by 1 goal with short time not even pressuring ball.yes suffolk all-stars did beat yj blue,no yj blue did not put their best effort forward . Allstars keep claiming they are better do to this victory , only problem is I watched the two teams play at national draw when both teams were actually trying , all-stars got shut down and had trouble even getting shots off , complete domination score could have been even worse. In my opinion you should have enjoyed your so called victory with out gloating because now they may play to win at every game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
First let me state some facts. I have a child on 2016 yj gold.Yes I watched the delaware game in which all-stars beat yj blue by 1 goal.Yes the yj played out of their normal positions the entire game ,defense playing attack ,attack playing defense, both goalies playing equal time etc..Yj down by 1 goal with short time not even pressuring ball.yes suffolk all-stars did beat yj blue,no yj blue did not put their best effort forward . Allstars keep claiming they are better do to this victory , only problem is I watched the two teams play at national draw when both teams were actually trying , all-stars got shut down and had trouble even getting shots off , complete domination score could have been even worse. In my opinion you should have enjoyed your so called victory with out gloating because now they may play to win at every game.



YJ parents, you didn't hear? In the game where the YJs beat the AllStars, the AllStars were missing their two best players (they subbed into a Northwestern University scrimmage), one of their best defenders scraped her knee in the game before (which required a band-aid), and their goalie had a 98.8 degree fever (luckily, she did not require medical treatment). THAT'S why the AllStars lost to the YJs, the second game.

Kind of annoying, all these excuses, huh YJs? Now you know how everyone feels when they read your nonsense every time a YJ team loses. The AllStars beat the YJs, fair and square, the first time they played. Everyone saw it. Just wish them well and move on, please.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Still amazes me that not one person will state the yj team was not playing out of position in their loss to suffolk county all-stars.If you believe that they were not playing out of position then call the YJ posters out on it. You will not do it because you know its true. Such a big fan of all-stars then how did they do against express this year. How did they do this weekend against the yj blue players, I will let you know all-stars got it handed to them .Not sure but I heard all-stars got smoked by the wantagh town team.Keep dreaming unfortunately your team is just not very athletic.Have you guys ever won any tournament that actual scores are kept?
OMGosh, can you guys stop this bickering?

From what I've read here, All Stars beat a YJ team, YJ are claiming their team wasn't playing full strength. Does that sum it up? Can we move on now?

Maybe this winter those teams will play again and we can revisit this, and then we can revisit it during tournament season. The truth will emerge on the playing field, but for now, enough already. The two factions will never agree, so can you just agree to disagree and let it get settled in future competitions?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
"Kind of annoying, all these excuses, huh YJs? Now you know how everyone feels when they read your nonsense every time a YJ team loses."
The difference is you have made up obvious stories in order to be sarcastic but you have still not refuted the facts that the all-stars have not beaten the yj when actual scores are kept.By the way excellent use of the deputy to clear the ball did the girls learn that when they were playing for Northwestern or did their little sisters show them that one.
Originally Posted by Powderfinger
OMGosh, can you guys stop this bickering?

From what I've read here, All Stars beat a YJ team, YJ are claiming their team wasn't playing full strength. Does that sum it up? Can we move on now?

Maybe this winter those teams will play again and we can revisit this, and then we can revisit it during tournament season. The truth will emerge on the playing field, but for now, enough already. The two factions will never agree, so can you just agree to disagree and let it get settled in future competitions?
Powderfinger is exactly right here and this argument is just another reason why the need for a premier league structure that we discussed in the Sage Advice : Crystal Ball Article will eventually be the required proving ground to rank the teams. Aside from a select few tournaments, there is just no clear competitive league forum where the need to play the best to remain in the league is set.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The difference is you have made up obvious stories in order to be sarcastic but you have still not refuted the facts that the all-stars have not beaten the yj when actual scores are kept.
If the Yellow Jackets used this particular game for DEVELOPMENT, why should the results bother a Yellow Jackets team member?

It is not a matter of setting parameters like "when actual scores are kept". A game was played, the All-Stars played to WIN THE GAME, the Yellow Jackets took a DEVELOPMENTAL APPROACH, and the result stands.

If the WIN actually matters, do not take the field with a DEVELOPMENTAL APPROACH.

Quite frankly, BOTC likes the fact that a developmental tactic was employed in this instance.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
All Stars is a very good team and the two coaches are dedicated great people, and should be commended for their team. They are all good athletes and should be proud of each game they play, as should all of these girls. Having said that, the YJ team that played all stars was comprised of players from Blue, Gold and Red. That's how YJ does it for the fall ball. The CGC team that played all stars at the end of the day was all Blue team players and were not playing the all stars with the yj team earlier in the day. Hofstra needed another team for the tourney so they put together Commack and Garden City girls and threw together a team CGC. Fall Ball should all be developmental. Not sure why everyone is getting so amped up over this. They're 13 year old girls and many of them are friends. It's a few crazy parents that take all of this to another level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
YJ 2016 blue parents, You have a very good team, stop making excuses for your losses. Every year its the same thing, EXCUSES. You lost to Allstars and thats it. Did the allstars make excuses when you beat them at National Draw? NO. did they have all there girls there? who knows and who cares. you won that one and they won the other. drop it already
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
who plays games to lose? "you play to win the game" Herm Edwards said. except for the YJ, they only play to win some of the time. that pathetic
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
you should pay more attention.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who plays games to lose? "you play to win the game" Herm Edwards said. except for the YJ, they only play to win some of the time. that pathetic
Last comment on this All Stars vs. Yellow Jacket one-game debate : no one plays to lose however there are times when a coach will play to develop different skills and perspectives on the field which seems to be the case here. Those revised positions are being attributed for the results in one particular game. Since the goal was to play in alternate positions, the end-results were less important than the development experience.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
give me a break
Your quoting herm edwards one of the worst jets coaches in history. Ask him if they played all of their preseason games to win , of course they did not.
" Aside from a select few tournaments,"
Cage which tournaments are you talking about, you seem to be level headed in regard to the question as to best travel team.If you were doing rankings would you take into account so called results from showcase tournaments,I say so called results because no score is actually kept so the outcome at these tournaments is sometimes the subject of debate.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
These tourneys are used to evaluate girls and their placement for the following summer. I wasnt making excuses, just giving some insight into how the organization is run. I am very close with a few of those all star players and their parents, as I have friends on other travel teams. The problem with these boards is its always hostile and at least on my part it is not my intention
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
My two cents on the Suffolk County All-stars 2016 team:
They have a pretty good core of 6 or 7 girls and then the drop off begins... They rely very heavily on their starters and do not substitute very often... leaving some very unhappy players on the sideline for most of the game. The bottom players are kinda disgruntled about making long drives and staying in hotels and not seeing much of the field.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
why does anyone care which is the best team in this age group? they are 13/14 year old girls - i like the line about backups being played - dont all the girls who make the team play equal?Why are they considered backups? I am sure the parents on the team like there kids to be called backups since they pay the same amount as the starters. Why pay the same amount as all the other girls and not play? If a girl is on the yj blue and does not play does that help her? I would rather my kid be on a different team and play then sit on the bench in 100 degree heat and watch other kids play - think about it. and why do the yj have so many differnt levels of teams only 1 is the best from what i hear. the rest is for what? Why have them?
[b]The top teams in theis age group are???
To answer the original question I will try to be impartial and back it up without the nonsense
1)YJ Blue Beat all-stars,and Express in championship format
Beat YJ gold in non championship format
Beat all-stars in last matchup-non championship
Only loss during summer in their age group was to allstars, have beaten them in 2 out of last 3 matchups
2)Express Beat all-stars, only loss I know of in age group was to YJ blue although seem to avoid the bigger tournaments
3) All-stars Beat yj blue non championship format
Lost to Express
Beat YJ gold non championship format
Lost to YJ Blue championship format
Seem able to keep majority of team together on year round basis
Feel free to pick it apart but at least support your reasons.That being said I also believe any of the above can beat each other on any given day but more often than not yj blue would be the team to beat right now.
















Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
you got your facts wrong...All stars smoked the wantagh town team by at least 7-8 goals. And in the game vs YJ Gold if you could see the way that coach was screaming it would be hard to believe after being up 4-0 that he put his back up players in for the balance.
Until lacrosse uses player cards like soccer to avoid moving players from teams to increase odds of winning there is no way to really know "who" is on the field.
All this back and forth is such nonsense. Why dont we all just agree that there is more competition out there in this age group which is a GOOD thing. It is ridiculous to believe that only ONE team is the best- Having many teams- YJ, top guns, Express, All stars etc provides more competition and opportunities/ choice for players to find the best fit both in terms of philosophy and coaching. Will YJ blue win more often then not- maybe but on any given day these other teams have the potential and have actually beat them- fair and square- score or no score.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
why does anyone care which is the best team in this age group? they are 13/14 year old girls - i like the line about backups being played - dont all the girls who make the team play equal?Why are they considered backups? I am sure the parents on the team like there kids to be called backups since they pay the same amount as the starters. Why pay the same amount as all the other girls and not play? If a girl is on the yj blue and does not play does that help her? I would rather my kid be on a different team and play then sit on the bench in 100 degree heat and watch other kids play - think about it. and why do the yj have so many differnt levels of teams only 1 is the best from what i hear. the rest is for what? Why have them?


People do care, The people who are involved in the very top teams- the players, the parents, the coaches, the college recruiters / coaches. If you tink no one is paying attention to the girls at this age you are dead wrong. The standouts from these teams are definately on the radar. It all depends on what your daughter aspires to. Of course sitting on the bench doesn't greatly help, but even those players will get playing time, so maybe its better than more playing time on a team with little expectations, maybe not. At bare minimum if your daughter has high expectations, she shuold be playing for one of the clubs at least in the conversation of being the best. As for the third and forth teams of yj, you have them because the girls still enjoy playing the sport and participating in tournaments. They will not be the girls going D1,and may not even want to play in college, but if they enjoy it, good for them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
"It is ridiculous to believe that only ONE team is the best"
BY best I do not believe they are talking about best fit so I would say that one team probably is the best team ,otherwise they should never do championship type tournaments.Section xi seems to have a reasonable take on the best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
to allstar parents: get your coach to do some real tournaments, then you will see how you stand up against real competition.
I do not think that is a fair statement in regards to all-stars after all they did attend the national draw.Just because they do not attend all the championship tournaments the yj do is no reason to knock them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Can someone from All Stars tell me where do your kids go to college from your program? Do you have an alumni list? Who is your recruiting liason?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone from All Stars tell me where do your kids go to college from your program? Do you have an alumni list? Who is your recruiting liason?


I'm not involved with the all-stars at all, but this info was easily available so I figured I would help you out. It's an impressive list. Currently I recognize that Erin Fitzgerald is on the list, she plays for 6 or seven time(forget how many titles they have at this point) NCAA DivI champs- Northwestern and is the second leading goal and points scorer on that team behind Shannon Smith, who lead the nation in all those catagories. (see alumni list below)


All Star
College
High School

Kristen Anderson
Rutgers University
Shoreham Wading River HS

Liz Fey
Duquesne University/Adelphi
Kings Park HS

Lindsay Daly
Stevens Institute of Technology
St Anthony's HS

Stephanie Anderson
Rutgers University
Shoreham Wading River HS

Christine Eichner
Stevens Institute of Technology
Kings Park HS

Tina Fey
UMASS Amherst
Kings Park HS

Erin Fitzgerald
Northwestern University
Mt Sinai HS

Lizzie Martin
Stevens Institute of Technology
Smithtown HS West

Alycia Caravousanos
Pfeiffer University St Anthony's HS
Kelly Dean
Sacred Heart University
Westhampton HS

Samantha Donaghy
Smithtown HS West

Rebecca Durkin
Islip HS

Shannon Fabiani
Bayport-Blue Point HS

Kellyn Tramposch
Islip HS

Kirsten Tramposch
Islip HS

Alexandra Franck
Muhlenberg
Shoreham Wading River HS

Brie Claire Drost
C. W. Post
Shoreham Wading River HS

Brittany Davis
Delaware/Rutgers
Shoreham Wading River HS

Brittany DeLea
Yale
Shoreham Wading River HS

Erica DeVito
Adelphi
Shoreham Wading River HS

Jane Moldovan
Quinnipiac
Shoreham Wading River HS

Kaitlin Rochler
Oregon/Sacred Heart
Shoreham Wading River HS

Kathleen Wallace
Dartmouth
Shoreham Wading River HS

Rachel Wiederkuhr
Ohio State
Shoreham Wading River

Chelsea Malloy
Central Conneticut
Kings Park HS

Courtney Acker
Adelphi
Bayport HS

Emily Cilla
Lock Haven
Kings Park HS

Gabby Wiegand
Richmond
Bay Shore HS

Jamie Romano
Marist
Kings Park HS

Nicole Moran
Stony Brook
Lindenhurst HS

Kerry Stoothoff
Loyola
Bayport HS

Kim Sandtory
Albany
Centereach HS

Mackenzie Baker
Bryant
Bayport HS

Morgan O'Reilly
UCONN
Sayville HS

Nan Mayott
C. W. Post
Islip HS

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
what are you talking about? Do you have a clue?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
who cares its youth lacrosse !!!!!!!! My son whet to a top 20 univeresity never played a day in his life. Do u really think that what club your daughter plays with is going to determine where she goes to college. let the kids play for fun and study for college
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
the list is short.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
the list is completely false and LOADED WITH YJ PLAYERS when did they play for you in 3rd grade!! THEY HAVE EXPRESS kids on this list too. WHAT A JOKE

You should be ashamed of yourself!!

THIS IS WHY YOU ONLY HAD 49 KIDS AT YOUR TRYOUT

BOTH ANDERSONS EXPRESS
FEY EXPRESS
WIEDERKUHR EXPRESS

SEVERAL MORE NO SURE

FITZGERALD YELLOW JACKETS
LIZZIE MARTIN YELLOW JACKET FOLKS OWNERS KID
BRITTANY DAVIS YELLOW JACKETS
BRITTANY DELEA YELLOW JACKETS
KAITLIN ROCHLER YELLOW JACKETS
GABI WEIGAND YELLOW JACKETS
NAN MAYOTT YELLOW JACKETS


SO AFTER WE TAKE OFF HALF THE LIST YOU HAVE NOT MUCH TO SPEAK ABOUT
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the list is completely false and LOADED WITH YJ PLAYERS when did they play for you in 3rd grade!! THEY HAVE EXPRESS kids on this list too. WHAT A JOKE

You should be ashamed of yourself!!

THIS IS WHY YOU ONLY HAD 49 KIDS AT YOUR TRYOUT

BOTH ANDERSONS EXPRESS
FEY EXPRESS
WIEDERKUHR EXPRESS

SEVERAL MORE NO SURE

FITZGERALD YELLOW JACKETS
LIZZIE MARTIN YELLOW JACKET FOLKS OWNERS KID
BRITTANY DAVIS YELLOW JACKETS
BRITTANY DELEA YELLOW JACKETS
KAITLIN ROCHLER YELLOW JACKETS
GABI WEIGAND YELLOW JACKETS
NAN MAYOTT YELLOW JACKETS


SO AFTER WE TAKE OFF HALF THE LIST YOU HAVE NOT MUCH TO SPEAK ABOUT


Not ashamed of myself one bit. I told you, My daughter does't belong to allstars, don't know much about them. All I provided was a cut and paste list from the allstar website. How they came up with that list I haven't a clue. I think you as a yellow jacket supporter need to relax, it's that aggressive yj parent attitude that is so prevalent on these message boards that give you guys a bad reputation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
THE TRUTH IS HARD TO SWALLOW I AM EXPRESS NOT YJ YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A CLUE
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
THE TRUTH IS HARD TO SWALLOW I AM EXPRESS NOT YJ YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A CLUE


Why is hard to swollow? I could care less. Just scratch out "yj parent" in the comment and insert your name and your all set.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
to allstar parents: get your coach to do some real tournaments, then you will see how you stand up against real competition.


To YJ parents: the allstars do go to "real tournaments", and when your team sees the allstars again, my guess is the YJs will lose.....again. Good luck.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the list is completely false and LOADED WITH YJ PLAYERS when did they play for you in 3rd grade!! THEY HAVE EXPRESS kids on this list too. WHAT A JOKE

You should be ashamed of yourself!!

THIS IS WHY YOU ONLY HAD 49 KIDS AT YOUR TRYOUT

BOTH ANDERSONS EXPRESS
FEY EXPRESS
WIEDERKUHR EXPRESS

SEVERAL MORE NO SURE

FITZGERALD YELLOW JACKETS
LIZZIE MARTIN YELLOW JACKET FOLKS OWNERS KID
BRITTANY DAVIS YELLOW JACKETS
BRITTANY DELEA YELLOW JACKETS
KAITLIN ROCHLER YELLOW JACKETS
GABI WEIGAND YELLOW JACKETS
NAN MAYOTT YELLOW JACKETS


SO AFTER WE TAKE OFF HALF THE LIST YOU HAVE NOT MUCH TO SPEAK ABOUT



No need to yell, YJ parent. You are getting WAY too excited. I can only imagine what you are like on the sideline when your team is losing. And you wonder why the YJs have their reputation? Just look at the way the (some, not all)parents act on the board.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
is allstars a fraud?
"Do u really think that what club your daughter plays with is going to determine where she goes to college"
You would be foolish to think if your daughter planned on playing lax in college that who she plays for would not have an impact on where she would go to college. The exposure and ability to play with girls of differing abilities from club to club varies greatly.Yes scholarships are more scarce than most seem to believe however there are many who thru the help of interested coaches have gotten into schools they may not have.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
sectionxi,
I do understand that players of a high level must play at that level to both improve and enhance their chances of playing at the next level. With that said a D1 player is a D1 player regardless of which club they represent. I have a hard time believing that these type of players will not end up where they want regardless of if they play for yj or any of the other quality clubs.
No need to yell, YJ parent. You are getting WAY too excited
If what they are asserting is true and the all-star website is misleading at best then they should be yelling.Not saying that what they are accusing all-stars of is true I have no first hand knowledge of such.
I guess we will just agree to disagree.I do not believe that a D1 player is Born but is made . A part of the making is seeking the best competition ,getting good training, self motivation etc...Further being part of an organization that may have more college contacts then the others will definately help with some schools . It may even work in the opposite in that there may be schools that with everything else being equal would prefer a kid from one organization and not others.
Originally Posted by sectionxi
I do not believe that a D1 player is Born but is made.
At some point, there is both inate athletic ability and training that hones that ability. Successful NCAA Division I players usually have both attributes.
Originally Posted by sectionxi
A part of the making is seeking the best competition ,getting good training, self motivation etc...Further being part of an organization that may have more college contacts then the others will definately help with some schools.
Contacting college coaches proactively and inviting them to see you play at a showcase event is substantially more important to recruitment success than waiting on the club's reputation to attract coaches to the field. One obvious flaw in depending on the club exclusively for recruitment is revealed when your interest list universities do not see you play at an event as you did not invite them and show personal interest in that college's program.
Originally Posted by sectionxi
It may even work in the opposite in that there may be schools that with everything else being equal would prefer a kid from one organization and not others.
College coaches will NEVER choose a player based on the club team for which that player plays. While a club recommendation might get a coach to the field to see a player, that player will always be evaluated in their own context, not within the team's context. Regadless of NCAA sport, state, region, or affiliation : college coaches evaluate players since come August/September after your High School Graduation, everything else is history including your club experiences.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone from All Stars tell me where do your kids go to college from your program? Do you have an alumni list? Who is your recruiting liason?


I'm not involved with the all-stars at all, but this info was easily available so I figured I would help you out. It's an impressive list. Currently I recognize that Erin Fitzgerald is on the list, she plays for 6 or seven time(forget how many titles they have at this point) NCAA DivI champs- Northwestern and is the second leading goal and points scorer on that team behind Shannon Smith, who lead the nation in all those catagories. (see alumni list below)


All Star
College
High School

Kristen Anderson
Rutgers University
Shoreham Wading River HS

Liz Fey
Duquesne University/Adelphi
Kings Park HS

Lindsay Daly
Stevens Institute of Technology
St Anthony's HS

Stephanie Anderson
Rutgers University
Shoreham Wading River HS

Christine Eichner
Stevens Institute of Technology
Kings Park HS

Tina Fey
UMASS Amherst
Kings Park HS

Erin Fitzgerald
Northwestern University
Mt Sinai HS

Lizzie Martin
Stevens Institute of Technology
Smithtown HS West

Alycia Caravousanos
Pfeiffer University St Anthony's HS
Kelly Dean
Sacred Heart University
Westhampton HS

Samantha Donaghy
Smithtown HS West

Rebecca Durkin
Islip HS

Shannon Fabiani
Bayport-Blue Point HS

Kellyn Tramposch
Islip HS

Kirsten Tramposch
Islip HS

Alexandra Franck
Muhlenberg
Shoreham Wading River HS

Brie Claire Drost
C. W. Post
Shoreham Wading River HS

Brittany Davis
Delaware/Rutgers
Shoreham Wading River HS

Brittany DeLea
Yale
Shoreham Wading River HS

Erica DeVito
Adelphi
Shoreham Wading River HS

Jane Moldovan
Quinnipiac
Shoreham Wading River HS

Kaitlin Rochler
Oregon/Sacred Heart
Shoreham Wading River HS

Kathleen Wallace
Dartmouth
Shoreham Wading River HS

Rachel Wiederkuhr
Ohio State
Shoreham Wading River

Chelsea Malloy
Central Conneticut
Kings Park HS

Courtney Acker
Adelphi
Bayport HS

Emily Cilla
Lock Haven
Kings Park HS

Gabby Wiegand
Richmond
Bay Shore HS

Jamie Romano
Marist
Kings Park HS

Nicole Moran
Stony Brook
Lindenhurst HS

Kerry Stoothoff
Loyola
Bayport HS

Kim Sandtory
Albany
Centereach HS

Mackenzie Baker
Bryant
Bayport HS

Morgan O'Reilly
UCONN
Sayville HS

Nan Mayott
C. W. Post
Islip HS

There are more coming out in the next few weeks as 5-6 have verbally committed to colleges. More to come after the 5-6 as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the list is completely false and LOADED WITH YJ PLAYERS when did they play for you in 3rd grade!! THEY HAVE EXPRESS kids on this list too. WHAT A JOKE

You should be ashamed of yourself!!

THIS IS WHY YOU ONLY HAD 49 KIDS AT YOUR TRYOUT

BOTH ANDERSONS EXPRESS
FEY EXPRESS
WIEDERKUHR EXPRESS

SEVERAL MORE NO SURE

FITZGERALD YELLOW JACKETS
LIZZIE MARTIN YELLOW JACKET FOLKS OWNERS KID
BRITTANY DAVIS YELLOW JACKETS
BRITTANY DELEA YELLOW JACKETS
KAITLIN ROCHLER YELLOW JACKETS
GABI WEIGAND YELLOW JACKETS
NAN MAYOTT YELLOW JACKETS


SO AFTER WE TAKE OFF HALF THE LIST YOU HAVE NOT MUCH TO SPEAK ABOUT


If you knew any of these girls personally, and I know you don't, they may have started with those clubs...but LEFT because of people like you and the attitudes you have. Those "other clubs" like to play mind games and pit people against each other. So, you leave and have a great experience over at brand X.
They were and are great players with or without your club.!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the list is completely false and LOADED WITH YJ PLAYERS when did they play for you in 3rd grade!! THEY HAVE EXPRESS kids on this list too. WHAT A JOKE

You should be ashamed of yourself!!

THIS IS WHY YOU ONLY HAD 49 KIDS AT YOUR TRYOUT

BOTH ANDERSONS EXPRESS
FEY EXPRESS
WIEDERKUHR EXPRESS

SEVERAL MORE NO SURE

FITZGERALD YELLOW JACKETS
LIZZIE MARTIN YELLOW JACKET FOLKS OWNERS KID
BRITTANY DAVIS YELLOW JACKETS
BRITTANY DELEA YELLOW JACKETS
KAITLIN ROCHLER YELLOW JACKETS
GABI WEIGAND YELLOW JACKETS
NAN MAYOTT YELLOW JACKETS


SO AFTER WE TAKE OFF HALF THE LIST YOU HAVE NOT MUCH TO SPEAK ABOUT


If you knew any of these girls personally, and I know you don't, they may have started with those clubs...but LEFT because of people like you and the attitudes you have. Those "other clubs" like to play mind games and pit people against each other. So, you leave and have a great experience over at brand X.
They were and are great players with or without your club.!


I can attest to this post.....been there myself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
I have to give credit to the all-stars at the 2016 age group they seem to play all- year together which I think gives them a big advantage come tournament season. Did not know the final outcome but it looked like they were handling a yj team at stony brook this weekend, I heard it was the blue yj team.That being said I think the top level travel teams should be playing at least 1 year up in age when playing against town or school teams ie 2016 travel teams should be playing jv division. I have seen the tg 2019 teams playing town teams at in line at their own age ,not competitive games at all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have to give credit to the all-stars at the 2016 age group they seem to play all- year together which I think gives them a big advantage come tournament season. Did not know the final outcome but it looked like they were handling a yj team at stony brook this weekend, I heard it was the blue yj team.That being said I think the top level travel teams should be playing at least 1 year up in age when playing against town or school teams ie 2016 travel teams should be playing jv division. I have seen the tg 2019 teams playing town teams at in line at their own age ,not competitive games at all.
Yellow jackets 2017 blue team beat all stars, not sure final score but I think Yj won by 2 or 3 points. So maybe they shouldn't Play up because that would mean playing teams like Yj 2015 blue or gold and that would be a slaughter
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
The all stars lost to the yj17 blue team. yj16 did not have a team entered and the yj17 team was split into two separate teams because of the 7 v 7 format. First half of the alphabet was one team and the second half was the second blue team. All stars played both teams and lost. Not sure how they did against the other teams. Not looking for an argument just stating what it was. It was a beautiful day for lacrosse...except for when the cops were called because some parents wanted charges brought against a varsity player for apparently elbowing their daughter in the face. Not sure of the outcome of that
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have to give credit to the all-stars at the 2016 age group they seem to play all- year together which I think gives them a big advantage come tournament season. Did not know the final outcome but it looked like they were handling a yj team at stony brook this weekend, I heard it was the blue yj team.That being said I think the top level travel teams should be playing at least 1 year up in age when playing against town or school teams ie 2016 travel teams should be playing jv division. I have seen the tg 2019 teams playing town teams at in line at their own age ,not competitive games at all.



The only YJ team All Stars Beat was YJ 2018 team, 2 years younger than them!! and they did not win by many
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
"The top teams in theis age group are???"
For all the all-star parents who were so vocal that a win is a win no matter what the format or what time of year it is that has to hurt just a little. Loosing to the younger divided yj team .....ouch! How come no one comes on here complaining that the all-stars are playing down in age if the yj 2016 gold team played that schedule they would have been ripped apart for it ,yes I realize they were actually playing age appropriate although it seems they did not play any teams their age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
2016 allstars lost to yj17 blue and yj17 blue twice???? allstar coach thinks he has a team, guess not
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
congrats to 16 allstars for beating the crap out of 17/18 topguns. way to go tomas
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
hey 16 allstars, there is a 3rd grade team from Speonk, that you might want to play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Wow- you people are pathetic. Nothing better to do but wait to pounce with your negativity. You should be ashamed of yourselves. From what I have heard that coach is a stand up guy who is nothing but positive with his team and his coaching.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow- you people are pathetic. Nothing better to do but wait to pounce with your negativity. You should be ashamed of yourselves. From what I have heard that coach is a stand up guy who is nothing but positive with his team and his coaching.
. Can't stand the heat don't post in first place.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Toomas is a great guy and does great things for those girls. I am a YJ parent and enjoy playing against his and Lisa's team. You really need to calm down people. And for the comment about playing up, down, sideways, whatever, the tourney would not allow ANY playing up. You played in your age group and there's was JH. Calm yourselves! Why attack Toomas? I assure you he's not on these boards bashing other teams, if you want to banter back and forth with the spirited parents that visit these boards, go right ahead, leave the coaches out of it
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
so lets go one step further.all stars 16 beat yj16 blue and just managed to beat yj18 blue so we can now say the yj18 blue team would beat the yj16 bl team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Toomas is a great guy and does great things for those girls. I am a YJ parent and enjoy playing against his and Lisa's team. You really need to calm down people. And for the comment about playing up, down, sideways, whatever, the tourney would not allow ANY playing up. You played in your age group and there's was JH. Calm yourselves! Why attack Toomas? I assure you he's not on these boards bashing other teams, if you want to banter back and forth with the spirited parents that visit these boards, go right ahead, leave the coaches out of it
I don't think anyone mentioned the coach u calm down we know he is a Saint relax.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
go back a couple of posts and you will see "Tomas" name and that is the only reason I posted about it. It's so negative all the time on here. doesn't anyone have anything positive to say about any thing. There is absolutely no respect for anyone and any team...very sad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
go back a couple of posts and you will see "Tomas" name and that is the only reason I posted about it. It's so negative all the time on here. doesn't anyone have anything positive to say about any thing. There is absolutely no respect for anyone and any team...very sad.
. Aww u are right. Let's all be friends!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
go back a couple of posts and you will see "Tomas" name and that is the only reason I posted about it. It's so negative all the time on here. doesn't anyone have anything positive to say about any thing. There is absolutely no respect for anyone and any team...very sad.
. Aww u are right. Let's all be friends!
Note that nothing posted from the moderators and most registered users will be negative - it might be forceful and bold, but certainly not negative on the kids or the sport itself. While folks do not want to think about the real issue, BOTC is a reflection of the attitudes and thoughts that exist among the parents on the sidelines of your weekend games. If you want to raise the overall game, become a registered user, develop a BOTC personality for being upbeat about the game, and over time, the emotion changes. All you have to do is become a registered user and start sharing your perspectives. It really is that simple.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Agreed that the coaches should not be specifically called out but I did not see any all-star parent state that when they go after the yj coaches .As far as not letting teams play up in age that is completly false, we played in the jv division with a team of 8th graders and a few 7th graders . What age did scas play keeping in mind that they played a 6th grade yj team who I do not believe are considered a junior high age group.Once again I do not place much importance to the outcomes of games unless it is a championship format during the travel season but if you are going to get all pumped up about a win in showcase events then you have to accept what comes when you loose to multiple younger teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
"so lets go one step further.all stars 16 beat yj16 blue and just managed to beat yj18 blue so we can now say the yj18 blue team would beat the yj16 bl team."
What exactly is the purpose of this nonsense. Lets just assume that the new 2016 all-stars team will be barely competitive even if they played down a year but would have a good chance if they dropped down 2 years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"The top teams in theis age group are???"
For all the all-star parents who were so vocal that a win is a win no matter what the format or what time of year it is that has to hurt just a little. Loosing to the younger divided yj team .....ouch! How come no one comes on here complaining that the all-stars are playing down in age if the yj 2016 gold team played that schedule they would have been ripped apart for it ,yes I realize they were actually playing age appropriate although it seems they did not play any teams their age.


Aaaaaaaaaaaa small fields, they would never keep up on a large 11 v 11 field. sorry
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Don't be sorry, I have no problem with people expressing an opinion . My problem is that if a yj parent states a fact about the format of a tournament and how they feel it impacted the outcome of a game they are making excuses but if any other club parent does this then its okay. Only a rumor but i hear that with all the clubs popping up it has not hurt the numbers trying out for yj at all this year and that at the 2016 age it will be a large number of girls trying out with some whole existing town teams trying out who have not done so in previous years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
just like you said, only a rumor genius. the numbers are actually down. shut up if you have know idea what your talking about. thankyou. no come back please, dont embarrass yourself any more
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
tomas is full of himself... get real
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Heis full of himself?!!!!! This coming from a yellow jacket clone!!! that is too funny.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Why so nasty could it be that your daughter plays for a travel team that is a joke. Their premier team loses to not only one but two teams who are a year younger and all the other age groups are completely non competitive. the parents from both sides felt bad about the team playing in the jv division, they are a local rec team at best .I actually saw the try-outs for the all-stars 2016 team , must have been at least 20 girls there,slim pickens at best .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why so nasty could it be that your daughter plays for a travel team that is a joke. Their premier team loses to not only one but two teams who are a year younger and all the other age groups are completely non competitive. the parents from both sides felt bad about the team playing in the jv division, they are a local rec team at best .I actually saw the try-outs for the all-stars 2016 team , must have been at least 20 girls there,slim pickens at best .


Its your attitude that is a joke, on display here for all to see.
this person is an [lacrosse]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why so nasty could it be that your daughter plays for a travel team that is a joke. Their premier team loses to not only one but two teams who are a year younger and all the other age groups are completely non competitive. the parents from both sides felt bad about the team playing in the jv division, they are a local rec team at best .I actually saw the try-outs for the all-stars 2016 team , must have been at least 20 girls there,slim pickens at best .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Yes that person was somewhat of an [lacrosse] ,yet you have no problem with a guy who posts assanine replies like" only a rumor genius. the numbers are actually down. shut up if you have know idea what your talking about. thankyou. no come back please, dont embarrass yourself any more " .All travel teams seem to have several of these types and I wonder if they post this stuff just to get a rise out of everyone. As far as the yj numbers from what I can tell more teams per age group equates to more kids trying out and at this point no other teams match the numbers they get at yj try-outs.Whether that results in their top level teams improving I have no idea.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
seems as if the clown who stated the numbers were down was very wrong, I heard they had over 130 at tryouts today. That being said i hear they are going to do the 2 blue team nonsense. should look great when one blue team is getting beat-up by some of the other travel teams seems silly and honestly i would not want my kid to make the so called blue team that way.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
the two blue teams isn't that big of a deal....think about the numbers, out of 130 girls I'm sure there were at least two teams worth of worthy blue players. Either way, it was a great turn out
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
the two blue teams isn't that big of a deal....think about the numbers, out of 130 girls I'm sure there were at least two teams worth of worthy blue players. Either way, it was a great turn out


Two team idea is a horrible idea. If you have 40 kids 20 are better than 20 others. Perhaps the top 5 could interchange with the bottom 5 from team to team. It a money thing, call kids blue they. Stay, drop em to gold, dop the gold down, then kids are looking to go elsewhere. It all about money.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
I guess we'll have to disagree, I think it's a great idea and I'm sure it will be a great summer. People still want to wear her jersey or they would go elsewhere
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
The two team idea is horrible ,you have one team that is going to be clearly better than the other and if they play each other it will be painfully obvious. Further when you have one of those teams losing to the other clubs top teams it will have an impact on the reputation of the yj blue. In actuality you may have 30 kids at most who "deserve" to be on the blue team with a significant drop-off in skill after that.What you will end up with is 10 -15 of the best kids being annoyed at the move.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
YJ Tryouts were very competative with alot of talent. Easily have 40 top kids
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The two team idea is horrible ,you have one team that is going to be clearly better than the other and if they play each other it will be painfully obvious. Further when you have one of those teams losing to the other clubs top teams it will have an impact on the reputation of the yj blue. In actuality you may have 30 kids at most who "deserve" to be on the blue team with a significant drop-off in skill after that.What you will end up with is 10 -15 of the best kids being annoyed at the move.


When do results come out?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The two team idea is horrible ,you have one team that is going to be clearly better than the other and if they play each other it will be painfully obvious. Further when you have one of those teams losing to the other clubs top teams it will have an impact on the reputation of the yj blue. In actuality you may have 30 kids at most who "deserve" to be on the blue team with a significant drop-off in skill after that.What you will end up with is 10 -15 of the best kids being annoyed at the move.


How do you know they won't be equal? With 22 girls on a roster you can hide 5 or 6 that maybe should be gold.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The two team idea is horrible ,you have one team that is going to be clearly better than the other and if they play each other it will be painfully obvious. Further when you have one of those teams losing to the other clubs top teams it will have an impact on the reputation of the yj blue. In actuality you may have 30 kids at most who "deserve" to be on the blue team with a significant drop-off in skill after that.What you will end up with is 10 -15 of the best kids being annoyed at the move.


Or maybe one team isn't better than the other. Maybe the talent gets split equal. But doing that means niether team is as good as it could be. it does seem like it could all be about the money. My daughter in not on the team they are doing this to, but I would be pissed, at least if she belonged on the better team. Of course I would have no problem if she would be called yellow otherwise. I'm sure its those parents who are okay with this nonsense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Maybe they should call the team Navy Blue and Baby Blue..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
"How do you know they won't be equal? With 22 girls on a roster you can hide 5 or 6 that maybe should be gold."
The rosters will not be that small and I think what they are going to do is elevate the old gold team to make the other so called blue but the better players will still be kept together.That being said I think both teams will be improved with some small roster changes but the former blue team will improve even more than the former gold team. Whwn these two teams played a 25 minute game against each other at the end of the season the score was something like 10 -0 ,so they are not even close.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"How do you know they won't be equal? With 22 girls on a roster you can hide 5 or 6 that maybe should be gold."
The rosters will not be that small and I think what they are going to do is elevate the old gold team to make the other so called blue but the better players will still be kept together.That being said I think both teams will be improved with some small roster changes but the former blue team will improve even more than the former gold team. Whwn these two teams played a 25 minute game against each other at the end of the season the score was something like 10 -0 ,so they are not even close.


If the one team is so inferior to the other (10-0 blow-out reference),then the worse team really should not be called a blue team. What a mess this is, you can't restructure all the girl's and teams down the line without ruffling massive feathers, so let's just call what should be the gold team the second blue team and so on down the line. Seriously the only people that should be happy here is everybody except the kids and parents on the real blue team. They should be very upset.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why so nasty could it be that your daughter plays for a travel team that is a joke. Their premier team loses to not only one but two teams who are a year younger and all the other age groups are completely non competitive. the parents from both sides felt bad about the team playing in the jv division, they are a local rec team at best .I actually saw the try-outs for the all-stars 2016 team , must have been at least 20 girls there,slim pickens at best .


NO its just a tough team to break onto. only a few slots open and only one team in each age group. not your typical money making system like other organizations. and people know it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
seems as if the clown who stated the numbers were down was very wrong, I heard they had over 130 at tryouts today. That being said i hear they are going to do the 2 blue team nonsense. should look great when one blue team is getting beat-up by some of the other travel teams seems silly and honestly i would not want my kid to make the so called blue team that way.


Dont worry about making it.....as long as you pay the rediculous cost.....you'll make it.!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
The dirty little secret is that there are more impact players in D1 lax from yj gold than blue - this is a fact
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
seems as if the clown who stated the numbers were down was very wrong, I heard they had over 130 at tryouts today. That being said i hear they are going to do the 2 blue team nonsense. should look great when one blue team is getting beat-up by some of the other travel teams seems silly and honestly i would not want my kid to make the so called blue team that way.


Dont worry about making it.....as long as you pay the rediculous cost.....you'll make it.!!!
. Everybody needs to calm down. It only affects 2014 blue. If your kid doesn't play for 2014 blue, gold or east then you don't need to worry about it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why so nasty could it be that your daughter plays for a travel team that is a joke. Their premier team loses to not only one but two teams who are a year younger and all the other age groups are completely non competitive. the parents from both sides felt bad about the team playing in the jv division, they are a local rec team at best .I actually saw the try-outs for the all-stars 2016 team , must have been at least 20 girls there,slim pickens at best .


NO its just a tough team to break onto. only a few slots open and only one team in each age group. not your typical money making system like other organizations. and people know it.


Yeah, its not the typical money making system, its the ultimate money making system. Two blue teams, thers a sucker born every minute.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
I do not understand the big deal ,the teams will need some distinguishing system ie blue 1 or blue A so really all that is being done is renaming the teams.You are still going to have a top team a number2 team etc and everyone will know the difference.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
seems as if the clown who stated the numbers were down was very wrong, I heard they had over 130 at tryouts today. That being said i hear they are going to do the 2 blue team nonsense. should look great when one blue team is getting beat-up by some of the other travel teams seems silly and honestly i would not want my kid to make the so called blue team that way.


Dont worry about making it.....as long as you pay the rediculous cost.....you'll make it.!!!
. Everybody needs to calm down. It only affects 2014 blue. If your kid doesn't play for 2014 blue, gold or east then you don't need to worry about it.


As a college coach reading this it does not matter to me what any of these club coaches name there teams. I am only looking for athletes that fit the mold for my program. So the team name means nothing. You are all missing the boat.




Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Hey coach, ther reality is you probably would never waste your time going to some of the tournaments that the C,D and E teams play in. YJ blue and gold play at all the top tournaments and the rest of the teams who knows ( I have never seen them)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
The last tourney I observed in MD was Primetime and YJ brought 5 Teams. All Named after Beaches. All kids were class of 2013-2014. All from What I can see as origional summer teams Blue, Gold, East, Green, black, purple, pink?

The YJ program showcases ALL kids in the best tourneys. These kids are out there and are noticed.

Dont really understand arguement. I witnessed first hand
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
blue, gold, east - the rest doesn't matter
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Sounds about right, 2013 Blue & Gold 2013/14 East and 2014 Blue & Gold, there's your five teams - no Black/Red/Green
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
if the coach is a d2 or d3 program they might see some of these teams, but i can't see a d1 coach scouting them
Originally Posted by Anonymous
if the coach is a d2 or d3 program they might see some of these teams, but i can't see a d1 coach scouting them
Coaches scout players - they do not scout teams. We can cover this in much more detail on the College Forum, but the point you raise is interesting. Given the respect afforded to the Yellow Jackets, do college coaches accept the ranking (Blue, Gold, Others) that has already been done within the program and depend on that ranking?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
not everyone that plays lacrosse wants D1
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sounds about right, 2013 Blue & Gold 2013/14 East and 2014 Blue & Gold, there's your five teams - no Black/Red/Green


Black and Green kids played with other kids in program for your information
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
if the coach is a d2 or d3 program they might see some of these teams, but i can't see a d1 coach scouting them
Coaches scout players - they do not scout teams. We can cover this in much more detail on the College Forum, but the point you raise is interesting. Given the respect afforded to the Yellow Jackets, do college coaches accept the ranking (Blue, Gold, Others) that has already been done within the program and depend on that ranking?


College coaches dont care what she calls the teams or ranks them. They look at kids and figure it out for themselves
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
if the coach is a d2 or d3 program they might see some of these teams, but i can't see a d1 coach scouting them
Coaches scout players - they do not scout teams. We can cover this in much more detail on the College Forum, but the point you raise is interesting. Given the respect afforded to the Yellow Jackets, do college coaches accept the ranking (Blue, Gold, Others) that has already been done within the program and depend on that ranking?


College coaches dont care what she calls the teams or ranks them. They look at kids and figure it out for themselves
We agree. [The question was rhetorical - the point was that since the Yellow Jackets teams are largely attending the same events, the color scheme is of little importance. Ultimately, it comes down to the player on the field being viewed by the college coach. Full stop.]
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
How does Team Elevate 2016 figure in the picture? The team finished as first runner up at the T3 fall face-off...losing to Steps by a goal or two.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
No disrespect ,they should be middle of the pack in this age group in my opinion. Would like to see them go against the top level teams and see how they stack up Until a team their age beats them at a championship tournament yj top team still the team to beat.Suffolk all stars , express next level then liberty t guns,yj blue2 ,and possibly elevate, IMO
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
With the summer season soon approaching what are the top teams, it seems the best tournament will be national draw for this age group
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
1. Suffolk county all-stars do not have the most individual talent but practice and work to get better good coach wants to win
2. YJ blue-2 Work very hard coach gets the most out of girls,have been playing and practicing together a lot
3. Yj blue1 Have the most individual talent of any of the teams, many of the girls have been playing varsity for their school teams
4. Top Guns honestly do not know much about them but have not been impressive in the past
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
What excuse will the YJ blue team come up with this year when the Suffolk county all- stars beat them again at the all- star express. Seems like that team is a mess already ,wait until they lose again and that team may implode.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -

HAHAHA....Serious??

SC ALLSTARS needs to play competitive teams if they are so impressive !
They always enter the same tournaments year after year and play the same teams year after year .. How about entering their whole program in true competitive only tournaments and get better by playing tougher teams not B and C teams which thats a YJ favorite. YJ is only one top entity and after awhile that too gets played out. Everyone always basis there program against YJ and Top Guns , get out of that slump goto maryland / Baltimore and play against there best see how you stack up, Its funny that the Top Long Island Girls Programs stay away from Complete Elite only tournaments where there is no set brackets.. Come On Down and see what you are all missing.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
What excuse will the YJ blue team come up with this year when the Suffolk county all- stars beat them again at the all- star express. Seems like that team is a mess already ,wait until they lose again and that team may implode.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -

HAHAHA....Serious??

SC ALLSTARS needs to play competitive teams if they are so impressive !
They always enter the same tournaments year after year and play the same teams year after year .. How about entering their whole program in true competitive only tournaments and get better by playing tougher teams not B and C teams which thats a YJ favorite. YJ is only one top entity and after awhile that too gets played out. Everyone always basis there program against YJ and Top Guns , get out of that slump goto maryland / Baltimore and play against there best see how you stack up, Its funny that the Top Long Island Girls Programs stay away from Complete Elite only tournaments where there is no set brackets.. Come On Down and see what you are
missing



Seriously are you that stupid , name the team that you feel is so good that the long island teams are avoiding.Get a clue
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Seriously are you a Yellow Jacket?? "how dare someone accuses a long island team no less a high paying snobbish rover "oh" and cant forget Escalade driving yellow jacket of avoiding good competition"
Why have voids in consistant championships playing in better tournaments with a greater risk of losing.. thats not a very smart bizz move now is it !!
By the way is it true YJ pays 4 digits and SC Allstars Pays 3 digits and you both play in same tournaments?

Oh and they handed you last year? is that true?

Love the comments from you not very educated lax parents who get offended by the truth about who your daughter plays for , and as i read in another forum chances are you never knew squat about lacrosse until your daughter came home with a school fyer to play youth lacrosse.

Not stupid just very educated
Think about it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HAHAHA....Serious??

SC ALLSTARS needs to play competitive teams if they are so impressive !
They always enter the same tournaments year after year and play the same teams year after year .. How about entering their whole program in true competitive only tournaments and get better by playing tougher teams not B and C teams which thats a YJ favorite. YJ is only one top entity and after awhile that too gets played out. Everyone always basis there program against YJ and Top Guns , get out of that slump goto maryland / Baltimore and play against there best see how you stack up, Its funny that the Top Long Island Girls Programs stay away from Complete Elite only tournaments where there is no set brackets.. Come On Down and see what you are
missing



Seriously are you that stupid , name the team that you feel is so good that the long island teams are avoiding.Get a clue
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
I thought about it and have to go with the other guy, you are stupid. Just answer the question which team are they avoiding, name one,you can't , so either you are too stupid to name one or your original comments are ignorant. Try to back up your nonsense with a little common sense.I will make it simple for you , what club is it that any of the better long island travel clubs are avoiding?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -

Hi Carol..

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I thought about it and have to go with the other guy, you are stupid. Just answer the question which team are they avoiding, name one,you can't , so either you are too stupid to name one or your original comments are ignorant. Try to back up your nonsense with a little common sense.I will make it simple for you , what club is it that any of the better long island travel clubs are avoiding?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by ALLSTARS
Seriously are you a Yellow Jacket?? "how dare someone accuses a long island team no less a high paying snobbish rover "oh" and cant forget Escalade driving yellow jacket of avoiding good competition"
Why have voids in consistant championships playing in better tournaments with a greater risk of losing.. thats not a very smart bizz move now is it !!
By the way is it true YJ pays 4 digits and SC Allstars Pays 3 digits and you both play in same tournaments?

Oh and they handed you last year? is that true?

Love the comments from you not very educated lax parents who get offended by the truth about who your daughter plays for , and as i read in another forum chances are you never knew squat about lacrosse until your daughter came home with a school fyer to play youth lacrosse.

Not stupid just very educated
Think about it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

HAHAHA....Serious??

SC ALLSTARS needs to play competitive teams if they are so impressive !
They always enter the same tournaments year after year and play the same teams year after year .. How about entering their whole program in true competitive only tournaments and get better by playing tougher teams not B and C teams which thats a YJ favorite. YJ is only one top entity and after awhile that too gets played out. Everyone always basis there program against YJ and Top Guns , get out of that slump goto maryland / Baltimore and play against there best see how you stack up, Its funny that the Top Long Island Girls Programs stay away from Complete Elite only tournaments where there is no set brackets.. Come On Down and see what you are
missing



Seriously are you that stupid , name the team that you feel is so good that the long island teams are avoiding.Get a clue


I would not pay anything to play for SC ALL STARS mediocre teams and coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Actually not a YJ parent but original statement was "top long island programs" of which I consider my daughter to be a member of. If your intention is to go after YJ , go ahead but do not include the other programs. Still funny you were not able to name one team any of long islands clubs are avoiding.My guess your daughter plays for some wanna be program that no other club even wants to play because the competition would be pathetic. Still waiting for that team we on long island are too afraid to play. Also I am sure you can play as many YJ teams as you want in their end of year tournament on long island but you refuse to travel to long island to play,I wonder why.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
ewww My Daughter is a "MEMBER" of a top long island team... Wow...had to include that?
SERIOUSLY ?



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Actually not a YJ parent but original statement was "top long island programs" of which I consider my daughter to be a member of. If your intention is to go after YJ , go ahead but do not include the other programs. Still funny you were not able to name one team any of long islands clubs are avoiding.My guess your daughter plays for some wanna be program that no other club even wants to play because the competition would be pathetic. Still waiting for that team we on long island are too afraid to play. Also I am sure you can play as many YJ teams as you want in their end of year tournament on long island but you refuse to travel to long island to play,I wonder why.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Actually I said I consider her to be a member of one of the top long island programs of which there are quite a few.My guess is still your daughter is on a wanna be type team and it drives you crazy. Clubs like SC all- stars, Liberty, YJ,Express, TG,and many more can compete against any club yet you still show your ignorance by saying they avoid competition.Still waiting for you or one of your moronic friends to tell me who our long island clubs are avoiding.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
2016 allstars beat 2016 YJ blue (YJ best) and 2016 topguns crush 2016 allstars ... looks like at the 2016 age topguns are on top
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
topguns are the best at 2016 .... allstar express , they beat all LI teams convinceinly
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
All LI Teams...how many did TG play? How did they fair against Skywalkers?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
sc allstars need to play better competition to get better. Topguns through them a beating last week, they were outplayed and out coached.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
All star BEAT skywalkers

top gun LOST to skywalkers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
cage anyone take you up on that fundraising game at lax for backpacks, yj 2016 would love to help raise some funds and I am sure could get one of their 2016 teams to play either TG or scallstars. For all of TG talk about wanting to play YJ at these tournaments I do not see them too excited about the opportunity
Originally Posted by Anonymous
cage anyone take you up on that fundraising game at lax for backpacks, yj 2016 would love to help raise some funds and I am sure could get one of their 2016 teams to play either TG or scallstars. For all of TG talk about wanting to play YJ at these tournaments I do not see them too excited about the opportunity
Unfortunately, no one has moved to do a charity fundraiser event.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
tg beat express, liberty, wave, allstars (badly), YJ wont play this team. see what happens in florida next year.

lost to skywalkers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Whatever tou have won nothing to brag about
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
lost to sky walkers who YJ and allstars beat easily .As per your YJ will not play them go back and see for yourself YJ willing to play them at lax for back packs to help raise money for a good cause but top guns will not step up so it is obvious who won't play that game.Last time they played YJ gold handed them a beating.Add in that TG tied phantastix while YJ and all-stars won easily and it seems allstars may have had a major let down after beating the team they consider their only competition at that tournament.Step up and do the fundraiser game at lax for back packs or stop with the they won't play us nonsense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
The express team tg played was the blue team not orange. Tg did not play a tough round of games at allstar express. Until all the teams play each other stop your bragging and enjoy your wins.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The express team tg played was the blue team not orange. Tg did not play a tough round of games at allstar express. Until all the teams play each other stop your bragging and enjoy your wins.


The 2016's were scheduled to play the Orange team, but the Orange team didn't show... not sure why. Tournanmet placed a Gold YJ team in their place.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Is there an easy way to find out when tryouts are for all the 2016 girls teams. I went to individual team sites and they werent much help.looking for the easy way out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2016 Fall 2011/Spring 2012 -
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The express team tg played was the blue team not orange. Tg did not play a tough round of games at allstar express. Until all the teams play each other stop your bragging and enjoy your wins.


The 2016's were scheduled to play the Orange team, but the Orange team didn't show... not sure why. Tournanmet placed a Gold YJ team in their place.


TG 2016 Black had 27 wins and 4 losses this summer, they lost to M&D Black, Heros's twice and Skywalkers Blue. not to bad. once they figure out the Maryland teams they will be fine.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there an easy way to find out when tryouts are for all the 2016 girls teams. I went to individual team sites and they werent much help.looking for the easy way out.


Out Team Elevate 2016 Tryouts are Saturday September 8th and Saturday September 15th from 1:30-3pm at Cold Spring Harbor HS. You must register online at www.TeamElevateLax.com.

We have two Fall Tournaments, a winter league and weekly indoor training (all optional) besides our summer schedule. The summer schedule is posted as well for 2013.
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