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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 07/31/20 06:56 PM
Who are the Top 10 2023 grads on LI?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/02/20 01:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the Top 10 2023 grads on LI?

Already stirring the pot...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/02/20 11:49 PM
Dad,

Just post your list with the name of your kids club at the top. The kids going into 10th grade are too old for this nonsense. The top 5 teams are known (interchangeable in that tops 5 depending who your kid plays for). Focus on your kid and his team. If you are still jockeying for position at this point you have issues!

Signed,

The lax parents not living vicariously through their kid
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/09/20 03:26 PM
Who are the top 5?...new to all of this
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/09/20 06:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who are the top 5?...new to all of this

"new to all of this". Yeah, right. We're not taking your bait lost.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/09/20 09:46 PM
Which teams have tryouts for 2023 this year.? My son has played for one of those top teams for a few years. And I say played in theory. Hasn’t seen many minutes and while he likes his teammates and practices he doesn’t get much time in game unless it’s a real blowout early. I can’t see how he’s going to have a highlight video. Please hold the rude comments. I just want to know where he can tryout this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/09/20 10:14 PM
I would contact the organization you’re interested in. Most would find a spot for someone who will make their team better. Definitely need to get playing time in front of college coaches this year, playing for the “top team “ is great, but you also need to be seen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/09/20 11:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which teams have tryouts for 2023 this year.? My son has played for one of those top teams for a few years. And I say played in theory. Hasn’t seen many minutes and while he likes his teammates and practices he doesn’t get much time in game unless it’s a real blowout early. I can’t see how he’s going to have a highlight video. Please hold the rude comments. I just want to know where he can tryout this year.


Best thing to do is call a club that you think he will get play time on. We have all seen or heard about every club in this age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 12:08 AM
Paul Rabil
Matt Kavanaugh
Grant ament
Tom Schreiber
Trevor Baptiste


Jack a--
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 11:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which teams have tryouts for 2023 this year.? My son has played for one of those top teams for a few years. And I say played in theory. Hasn’t seen many minutes and while he likes his teammates and practices he doesn’t get much time in game unless it’s a real blowout early. I can’t see how he’s going to have a highlight video. Please hold the rude comments. I just want to know where he can tryout this year.


Best thing to do is call a club that you think he will get play time on. We have all seen or heard about every club in this age group.

I think the majority of the clubs will have some sort of tryout shortly. Before you jump ship, if you haven't done so already, have a conversation with the coach/director and discuss the concerns you have. I would think hard about leaving your current club.Think outside the box, not one size fits all. In the end, money is the root of all evil!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 02:31 PM
Thank you. But I’m looking for a new club. I’ve received lots of promises from this club. My son may not be as good as the starters but he’s still a strong and fast player just undersized. I’m ok with less playing time but 2 mins is a joke. And every time there’s a new excuse. Now the director has offered to move him to the B team which is fine. But i think it’s better to be on the top or only team of a club. I can’t find which clubs have tryouts posted and I don’t know any other coaches to call
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you. But I’m looking for a new club. I’ve received lots of promises from this club. My son may not be as good as the starters but he’s still a strong and fast player just undersized. I’m ok with less playing time but 2 mins is a joke. And every time there’s a new excuse. Now the director has offered to move him to the B team which is fine. But i think it’s better to be on the top or only team of a club. I can’t find which clubs have tryouts posted and I don’t know any other coaches to call

Promises, Promises...May find yourself in the same situation with a new team. Hypothetical; lets say whatever club you land with (A Team), your son get an offer to play for "X" school which is D1. Your kid accepts and settles on a major that he has no interest in, just to play lacrosse. OR, he narrows it down to a couple of schools that offer majors he interested in and may be a D1/D2 school. Hence, he attends (on his own) the prospect camps conducted by either of the schools and receives an offer. Think out side the box. And don't let anyone tell you, you can't.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you. But I’m looking for a new club. I’ve received lots of promises from this club. My son may not be as good as the starters but he’s still a strong and fast player just undersized. I’m ok with less playing time but 2 mins is a joke. And every time there’s a new excuse. Now the director has offered to move him to the B team which is fine. But i think it’s better to be on the top or only team of a club. I can’t find which clubs have tryouts posted and I don’t know any other coaches to call

What makes you think any other A team will be different? Every A team has a bottom half. Most of these kids don’t play but stick with A team status. I would rather my kid be #1 on a B team then the bottom of an A and never play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 05:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you. But I’m looking for a new club. I’ve received lots of promises from this club. My son may not be as good as the starters but he’s still a strong and fast player just undersized. I’m ok with less playing time but 2 mins is a joke. And every time there’s a new excuse. Now the director has offered to move him to the B team which is fine. But i think it’s better to be on the top or only team of a club. I can’t find which clubs have tryouts posted and I don’t know any other coaches to call

You are correct. Keep off B teams from any club. They are not looked at seriously by colleges. If a coach does call the director about your son the director will be most likely steer the collage coach to an uncommitted kid on the top team, Is a B team worth it? All you have to do is look at 91, Igloo and Express B team commits for 2021. Very few commits and you decide how good the colleges are. Great advice by somebody here who said find a team he will play on. You are looking for the clubs that get in the best tournaments and where he will play. My son is D1 commit to a top academic and lacrosse college and never tried out for any of those big clubs that everyone seems to want to be apart of. So you don't need to be on the top or best club to be seen and recruited but you do have to be on the field at the correct events. The 2021 clubs (top teams only) that have a lot of D1 and D3 commits for great lacrosse and academic schools are in no order: Legacy, 91, Express, Rebels and FLG. S2S does not have a 2021 team but the guys who run that organization have many college connections and will get their kids in top schools when they get to the recruiting ages. All the other clubs on Long Island are far behind the ones just mentioned. Good luck.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 06:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you. But I’m looking for a new club. I’ve received lots of promises from this club. My son may not be as good as the starters but he’s still a strong and fast player just undersized. I’m ok with less playing time but 2 mins is a joke. And every time there’s a new excuse. Now the director has offered to move him to the B team which is fine. But i think it’s better to be on the top or only team of a club. I can’t find which clubs have tryouts posted and I don’t know any other coaches to call
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you. But I’m looking for a new club. I’ve received lots of promises from this club. My son may not be as good as the starters but he’s still a strong and fast player just undersized. I’m ok with less playing time but 2 mins is a joke. And every time there’s a new excuse. Now the director has offered to move him to the B team which is fine. But i think it’s better to be on the top or only team of a club. I can’t find which clubs have tryouts posted and I don’t know any other coaches to call



Your situation is similar to the one I had with my middle son I dropped him to the B team on his club. It helped. His confidence went up because he was playing a lot. Entering sophomore year I had him try out for a recruiting team. He was excepted and had a great experience. He starts college in a few days. It’s not for everyone and all they players are not equal. Only a few made D1 most go D2 or D3 (mine is D3) Most importantly he is going to a very good school and he will be playing LAX.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you. But I’m looking for a new club. I’ve received lots of promises from this club. My son may not be as good as the starters but he’s still a strong and fast player just undersized. I’m ok with less playing time but 2 mins is a joke. And every time there’s a new excuse. Now the director has offered to move him to the B team which is fine. But i think it’s better to be on the top or only team of a club. I can’t find which clubs have tryouts posted and I don’t know any other coaches to call

You are correct. Keep off B teams from any club. They are not looked at seriously by colleges. If a coach does call the director about your son the director will be most likely steer the collage coach to an uncommitted kid on the top team, Is a B team worth it? All you have to do is look at 91, Igloo and Express B team commits for 2021. Very few commits and you decide how good the colleges are. Great advice by somebody here who said find a team he will play on. You are looking for the clubs that get in the best tournaments and where he will play. My son is D1 commit to a top academic and lacrosse college and never tried out for any of those big clubs that everyone seems to want to be apart of. So you don't need to be on the top or best club to be seen and recruited but you do have to be on the field at the correct events. The 2021 clubs (top teams only) that have a lot of D1 and D3 commits for great lacrosse and academic schools are in no order: Legacy, 91, Express, Rebels and FLG. S2S does not have a 2021 team but the guys who run that organization have many college connections and will get their kids in top schools when they get to the recruiting ages. All the other clubs on Long Island are far behind the ones just mentioned. Good luck.

Left off Igloo with almost the entire team committed. That was by accident.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 06:35 PM
I'm so sorry you think I was joking or baiting....Just wanted information.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 06:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you. But I’m looking for a new club. I’ve received lots of promises from this club. My son may not be as good as the starters but he’s still a strong and fast player just undersized. I’m ok with less playing time but 2 mins is a joke. And every time there’s a new excuse. Now the director has offered to move him to the B team which is fine. But i think it’s better to be on the top or only team of a club. I can’t find which clubs have tryouts posted and I don’t know any other coaches to call

You are correct. Keep off B teams from any club. They are not looked at seriously by colleges. If a coach does call the director about your son the director will be most likely steer the collage coach to an uncommitted kid on the top team, Is a B team worth it? All you have to do is look at 91, Igloo and Express B team commits for 2021. Very few commits and you decide how good the colleges are. Great advice by somebody here who said find a team he will play on. You are looking for the clubs that get in the best tournaments and where he will play. My son is D1 commit to a top academic and lacrosse college and never tried out for any of those big clubs that everyone seems to want to be apart of. So you don't need to be on the top or best club to be seen and recruited but you do have to be on the field at the correct events. The 2021 clubs (top teams only) that have a lot of D1 and D3 commits for great lacrosse and academic schools are in no order: Legacy, 91, Express, Rebels and FLG. S2S does not have a 2021 team but the guys who run that organization have many college connections and will get their kids in top schools when they get to the recruiting ages. All the other clubs on Long Island are far behind the ones just mentioned. Good luck.

Just curious... Can you give a list of the schools S2S kids went to? i know i've seen their field trip to NC, but i do not recall any of their guys (aside from the director's kid) going to the next levels.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 07:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you. But I’m looking for a new club. I’ve received lots of promises from this club. My son may not be as good as the starters but he’s still a strong and fast player just undersized. I’m ok with less playing time but 2 mins is a joke. And every time there’s a new excuse. Now the director has offered to move him to the B team which is fine. But i think it’s better to be on the top or only team of a club. I can’t find which clubs have tryouts posted and I don’t know any other coaches to call

You are correct. Keep off B teams from any club. They are not looked at seriously by colleges. If a coach does call the director about your son the director will be most likely steer the collage coach to an uncommitted kid on the top team, Is a B team worth it? All you have to do is look at 91, Igloo and Express B team commits for 2021. Very few commits and you decide how good the colleges are. Great advice by somebody here who said find a team he will play on. You are looking for the clubs that get in the best tournaments and where he will play. My son is D1 commit to a top academic and lacrosse college and never tried out for any of those big clubs that everyone seems to want to be apart of. So you don't need to be on the top or best club to be seen and recruited but you do have to be on the field at the correct events. The 2021 clubs (top teams only) that have a lot of D1 and D3 commits for great lacrosse and academic schools are in no order: Legacy, 91, Express, Rebels and FLG. S2S does not have a 2021 team but the guys who run that organization have many college connections and will get their kids in top schools when they get to the recruiting ages. All the other clubs on Long Island are far behind the ones just mentioned. Good luck.

There is no kid that is on top club B team, other than by a weird choice, that is a D1 talent. Even the top A teams will not place every player in D1. Your kid needs to play period. If you are on an A team and sit, guess what, no looks = no recruitment. You dont get better by sitting...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/10/20 11:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you. But I’m looking for a new club. I’ve received lots of promises from this club. My son may not be as good as the starters but he’s still a strong and fast player just undersized. I’m ok with less playing time but 2 mins is a joke. And every time there’s a new excuse. Now the director has offered to move him to the B team which is fine. But i think it’s better to be on the top or only team of a club. I can’t find which clubs have tryouts posted and I don’t know any other coaches to call

You are correct. Keep off B teams from any club. They are not looked at seriously by colleges. If a coach does call the director about your son the director will be most likely steer the collage coach to an uncommitted kid on the top team, Is a B team worth it? All you have to do is look at 91, Igloo and Express B team commits for 2021. Very few commits and you decide how good the colleges are. Great advice by somebody here who said find a team he will play on. You are looking for the clubs that get in the best tournaments and where he will play. My son is D1 commit to a top academic and lacrosse college and never tried out for any of those big clubs that everyone seems to want to be apart of. So you don't need to be on the top or best club to be seen and recruited but you do have to be on the field at the correct events. The 2021 clubs (top teams only) that have a lot of D1 and D3 commits for great lacrosse and academic schools are in no order: Legacy, 91, Express, Rebels and FLG. S2S does not have a 2021 team but the guys who run that organization have many college connections and will get their kids in top schools when they get to the recruiting ages. All the other clubs on Long Island are far behind the ones just mentioned. Good luck.

Just curious... Can you give a list of the schools S2S kids went to? i know i've seen their field trip to NC, but i do not recall any of their guys (aside from the director's kid) going to the next levels.

S2S is a new program and have not had a team old enough to be recruited. I know those guys and they have connections and when the time comes the kids they have will be recruited. Great program. FLG is great with college connections. They get their kids recruited and go to schools they are probably not good enough but the directors know all the college coaches. Rebels director and his father got a lot of Outlaw kids recruited before starting this club and the 2021s is his first recruiting year and he is doing well getting the kids looks and recruited. They get into the best recruitment events and have enough connections to make it work. Legacy gets into the best events and have a lot of connections. Igloo, Express and 91 (top teams only not B teams) kids get recruited but they have kids that attend top lacrosse HS. They go to top events and know all the college coaches. Great connections. No club will get a kid recruited who does not belong. Each kid takes a different path to college. It is a combo of being seen at the right events, being on the field, attending the prospect camps and playing for a respected club team. These clubs listed here top teams should be on everyone's list so long as they play at least half the game. If your kid is not playing move him to a team where he plays but try to stay on one of these clubs listed here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/11/20 03:08 AM
What about Turtles ? I know they had success in the past .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/11/20 09:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What about Turtles ? I know they had success in the past .

Their time has gone away. we played them at the last tournament, although we won, they have issues that need to be addressed on their sideline.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/11/20 10:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What about Turtles ? I know they had success in the past .

Their time has gone away. we played them at the last tournament, although we won, they have issues that need to be addressed on their sideline.

Thank you turtle parent. How would you know they have issues need to be addressed on sideline from opposite team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/11/20 10:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What about Turtles ? I know they had success in the past .

Their time has gone away. we played them at the last tournament, although we won, they have issues that need to be addressed on their sideline.

Thank you turtle parent. How would you know they have issues need to be addressed on sideline from opposite team.

How do I know? Turtle parents complaining to us during and after the game. That's how I know.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/11/20 12:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What about Turtles ? I know they had success in the past .

I don't know about the turtles so I will not comment. If you list the tournaments the 2023 team attends I can tell you if those are good recruiting tournaments. The teams I listed in other posts Rebels, Legacy, Igloo, 91, Express all go to top recruiting tournament, have college connections and have had success in recruiting. Just look at the 2021 recruits for those programs. FLG attends weaker tournaments and has weaker teams in general but makes it up with great college connections. However, they do go to enough strong tournaments. S2S I know has connections and will be a great spot to go to too for recruiting. I'm sure they will get into the top tournaments and they have great colleges connections that will help all kids. Like I said I will not comment on the turtles because I do I don't know enough.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/11/20 02:10 PM
Has anybody received an update about whether the UA Long Island Command tryouts are going to be able to happen? Every region except LI and Upstate have had their tryouts. Just lists “Postponed” on the website still.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/11/20 02:28 PM
Email the Coaches, there's a good chance they already know who they're picking.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/11/20 07:08 PM
It's usually not by some 'weird' choice, but since you're labelling...

Being a stud on a B team is usually the fault of all the Parasitic Parents, ParochialBS, Politics, Primadonnas, Prep PG & Pre-K, Payola, Player Propaganda for biased rankings from IL or LILJ Periodicals, and finally, all those parents partaking in coaches pilfering pockets, cause they're too paranoid to let the boys PLAY. 'Cause that would only result in their boys being put in their place. Instead, progenitors choose to put boys on a pedestal and become prognosticators of who is worthy of D1 concluding nobody is capable of playing at such a level unless they are on an A team. So now let's say you take the P's out. That leaves A,B,C,D and Door_Open_And, but many of the A team boys can't make the Door_Open_And grade cause 'lax is life', unless of course the parents bring the P back, paying the parochial professor $600 or a private tutor appointment just to get a B. Meanwhile the B team stud has been studying the whole time with a focus on As and playing the game the way it was meant to be played. He's going to A.) NESCAC, Ivy, or other high end schools B.) knowing there's no future in lacrosse, C.) all while the A team parents pine away with a lax version of PTSD D.) trying to figure out how the weird choice worked. Fact is if you actually used your pea-brain and knew the answer was E.) all of the above, and paid attention you wouldn't be posting such pointless garbage. If you just let the kid go to the library, improvise in the back yard, and do pick-up you'd get a free lesson that paying 30-50k to pad the egos of travel team owners is just not worth it because there are other important things in life.

My boy's wicked smaart. Not a '23, but he's committed D1. Go figure, we made the weird choice. Plus, as of July 15th, NCAA D1 is now allowing equivalency sports the ability to stack merit aid with athletic and need based aid. Who's on the A team now? Pop....hmmm, must be the sound of your head deflating. Good Luck Hunting for what's best for you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/11/20 09:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's usually not by some 'weird' choice, but since you're labelling...

Being a stud on a B team is usually the fault of all the Parasitic Parents, ParochialBS, Politics, Primadonnas, Prep PG & Pre-K, Payola, Player Propaganda for biased rankings from IL or LILJ Periodicals, and finally, all those parents partaking in coaches pilfering pockets, cause they're too paranoid to let the boys PLAY. 'Cause that would only result in their boys being put in their place. Instead, progenitors choose to put boys on a pedestal and become prognosticators of who is worthy of D1 concluding nobody is capable of playing at such a level unless they are on an A team. So now let's say you take the P's out. That leaves A,B,C,D and Door_Open_And, but many of the A team boys can't make the Door_Open_And grade cause 'lax is life', unless of course the parents bring the P back, paying the parochial professor $600 or a private tutor appointment just to get a B. Meanwhile the B team stud has been studying the whole time with a focus on As and playing the game the way it was meant to be played. He's going to A.) NESCAC, Ivy, or other high end schools B.) knowing there's no future in lacrosse, C.) all while the A team parents pine away with a lax version of PTSD D.) trying to figure out how the weird choice worked. Fact is if you actually used your pea-brain and knew the answer was E.) all of the above, and paid attention you wouldn't be posting such pointless garbage. If you just let the kid go to the library, improvise in the back yard, and do pick-up you'd get a free lesson that paying 30-50k to pad the egos of travel team owners is just not worth it because there are other important things in life.

My boy's wicked smaart. Not a '23, but he's committed D1. Go figure, we made the weird choice. Plus, as of July 15th, NCAA D1 is now allowing equivalency sports the ability to stack merit aid with athletic and need based aid. Who's on the A team now? Pop....hmmm, must be the sound of your head deflating. Good Luck Hunting for what's best for you.

I disagree. The Ivy league, NESCAC and other top academic schools are not taking B team players. Most players are going to those schools come from AA teams. Also, the Ivy league, NESCAC and other top academic schools do not offer academic money. So the stacking of money does not apply to a student who has top grades and a great lacrosse player unless they down grade to a school that is below what they would get in for academics alone. Most kids get into better schools with lacrosse than they would have got in without lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/12/20 12:33 AM
They are taking B team players, not a load, but they are taking them. So it's not right to say they don't take B team players. It's also not right to say don't play for a B team...might as well say give up before the go through puberty, That would be great for the sport! Players develop and many families don't want to deal with the BS mentioned above. You are correct that Ivy and NESCAC don't offer academic money, but there are other nationally ranked (academic and athletic) schools where the stacking works, especially if a specific type of major is available and it may very well rank higher than the Ivys. Plus, there are some Ivy's like the one in upstate NY with a tag line that says 'Any student. Any study.' But that is false, because it is known the coaches let travel coaches know they don't want the kid majoring in 'x' no matter how good the player is...or they admit the player and work hard to get the kid to change his major. In regard to NESCAC, many accredited majors aren't offered and the choice is liberal arts or business. Point is, you've gotta do your homework, know the goal, make it as fun and financially rewarding as possible.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/13/20 07:49 PM
How many Bandits suited up for the Warriors today at Blatant? 4 or 5? Typical 91 shenanigans. Why do parents put up with that?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/13/20 08:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How many Bandits suited up for the Warriors today at Blatant? 4 or 5? Typical 91 shenanigans. Why do parents put up with that?
More fake news.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/13/20 09:12 PM
Filled out the on-line eval. request for the Turtles. Heard mix reviews about them. How many do they carry on the team, and do they attend worthy tournaments. I have not seen them around.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/13/20 09:36 PM
Not fake news. The SWR kid was there and 6-7’others. You can’t hide it anymore. The kids all now each other by now. It was also video taped by the tournament. Can always check for yourself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/13/20 09:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not fake news. The SWR kid was there and 6-7’others. You can’t hide it anymore. The kids all now each other by now. It was also video taped by the tournament. Can always check for yourself.

You’ll be unhappy to know that the entire team that was there today were all Warriors. You can check the films yourself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/13/20 10:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not fake news. The SWR kid was there and 6-7’others. You can’t hide it anymore. The kids all now each other by now. It was also video taped by the tournament. Can always check for yourself.

Top recruit at this age plus 5 others were needed to beat the Rebels, True Blue, and Igloo? Really?!? And the response was, "Fake News". Warrior parents are getting played, big time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/13/20 10:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not fake news. The SWR kid was there and 6-7’others. You can’t hide it anymore. The kids all now each other by now. It was also video taped by the tournament. Can always check for yourself.

Top recruit at this age plus 5 others were needed to beat the Rebels, True Blue, and Igloo? Really?!? And the response was, "Fake News". Warrior parents are getting played, big time.

No Bandits. That’s just a silly statement. The Warriors did not have to bring in additional players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/13/20 10:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not fake news. The SWR kid was there and 6-7’others. You can’t hide it anymore. The kids all now each other by now. It was also video taped by the tournament. Can always check for yourself.

Top recruit at this age plus 5 others were needed to beat the Rebels, True Blue, and Igloo? Really?!? And the response was, "Fake News". Warrior parents are getting played, big time.
Warriors did not need a stacked team to outplay these three teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/14/20 12:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not fake news. The SWR kid was there and 6-7’others. You can’t hide it anymore. The kids all now each other by now. It was also video taped by the tournament. Can always check for yourself.

Top recruit at this age plus 5 others were needed to beat the Rebels, True Blue, and Igloo? Really?!? And the response was, "Fake News". Warrior parents are getting played, big time.
Warriors did not need a stacked team to outplay these three teams.

Lol come on bro. You probably didn’t realize because you were asked to stay home for the bandits to use your spot. Truth hurts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/14/20 02:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not fake news. The SWR kid was there and 6-7’others. You can’t hide it anymore. The kids all now each other by now. It was also video taped by the tournament. Can always check for yourself.

Top recruit at this age plus 5 others were needed to beat the Rebels, True Blue, and Igloo? Really?!? And the response was, "Fake News". Warrior parents are getting played, big time.

No dog in the fight so let's get real - why would the Warriors need anyone to beat Rebels, True Blue, and Igloo? That's laughable on face value alone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/14/20 11:38 PM
I saw a few sad hatchlings walking back to their cars with their parents. Got a little too warm for shells today!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/15/20 10:00 AM
No dog in the fight so let's get real - why would the Warriors need anyone to beat Rebels, True Blue, and Igloo? That's laughable on face value alone.[/quote]

What’s laughable is the 20 kids they had on the sideline - how does it feel to pay 4K to watch other kids take all your kid’s playing time? Is that 91 sticker on your car worth that much?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/15/20 10:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No dog in the fight so let's get real - why would the Warriors need anyone to beat Rebels, True Blue, and Igloo? That's laughable on face value alone.

What’s laughable is the 20 kids they had on the sideline - how does it feel to pay 4K to watch other kids take all your kid’s playing time? Is that 91 sticker on your car worth that much?[/quote]

It's the same political non-sense here in Smithtown. Dealing with many coaches and board members at times is impossible.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/15/20 12:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No dog in the fight so let's get real - why would the Warriors need anyone to beat Rebels, True Blue, and Igloo? That's laughable on face value alone.

What’s laughable is the 20 kids they had on the sideline - how does it feel to pay 4K to watch other kids take all your kid’s playing time? Is that 91 sticker on your car worth that much?[/quote]


Every time a team gets beat by one of the B teams of a big club. The excuse is they had their best players from the top team. Just face the facts that your kids team lost your team is not that good. Really if the best players from the bandits were there the scores would have been much higher
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/15/20 05:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No dog in the fight so let's get real - why would the Warriors need anyone to beat Rebels, True Blue, and Igloo? That's laughable on face value alone.

What’s laughable is the 20 kids they had on the sideline - how does it feel to pay 4K to watch other kids take all your kid’s playing time? Is that 91 sticker on your car worth that much?

It's the same political non-sense here in Smithtown. Dealing with many coaches and board members at times is impossible.[/quote]

The Smithtown lax is total chaos.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/16/20 04:43 PM
Conservatively there are 5-6 potential D1 players on the 91 Warriors but they are not a typical B team. Too bad they didn’t get a chance to show it this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/16/20 05:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Conservatively there are 5-6 potential D1 players on the 91 Warriors but they are not a typical B team. Too bad they didn’t get a chance to show it this year.

Every year 91 has the best B team and I agree every year those teams have many D1 players. However, when it comes time for recruiting those kids go to low level D2 and low level D3 schools. A couple each year will make a decent academic school. It is rare 91 B team players go D1 or go to a great school. Just look at the history. Every year the parents think their team is the exception. They find out they are wrong when it is too late. 2021 Ambush 91 is very good. Handful of commits all d2 and most schools people never heard of. 2020 and 2019 same thing. Great b teams with D1 players but 91 could not place many at a D1 or decent school. Rebels , Legacy and FLG placing many D1s for 2021. Parents have to look at the end game. Check your ego at the door, Trust me your ego will feel a lot better when you say your kid played for the Rebels or FLG but are playing D1 or at a great academic school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/16/20 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Conservatively there are 5-6 potential D1 players on the 91 Warriors but they are not a typical B team. Too bad they didn’t get a chance to show it this year.

Every year 91 has the best B team and I agree every year those teams have many D1 players. However, when it comes time for recruiting those kids go to low level D2 and low level D3 schools. A couple each year will make a decent academic school. It is rare 91 B team players go D1 or go to a great school. Just look at the history. Every year the parents think their team is the exception. They find out they are wrong when it is too late. 2021 Ambush 91 is very good. Handful of commits all d2 and most schools people never heard of. 2020 and 2019 same thing. Great b teams with D1 players but 91 could not place many at a D1 or decent school. Rebels , Legacy and FLG placing many D1s for 2021. Parents have to look at the end game. Check your ego at the door, Trust me your ego will feel a lot better when you say your kid played for the Rebels or FLG but are playing D1 or at a great academic school.

Best humbling post ever to 91 ego maniac parents. Their kids will ultimately be working for my kid from one of theses so called "B" teams!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/16/20 09:06 PM
Your bias against the 91 program is so obvious
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/16/20 09:30 PM
I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/16/20 10:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/17/20 12:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/17/20 02:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/17/20 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?



1) maybe his is not as good as he thinks he is
2) maybe his sons choice was based on what major he wants
3) maybe his sons choice was based on comfort with the school and fit on the team
3) maybe his just fell in love with the choice he made and feels this is where he wants to be and it’s just not all about lacrosse
His choice. Why do you care.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/17/20 02:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?

That school is a middle level D1 school and good academics. 5 wins and 1 loss before the season was shortened. It is moving up as its academic ranking has moved up over the last few years. They are getting better players. A 500 team the past few years. I would not call it low level. Some D1 players choose a school for major, money or fit. He had other options. An offer from a middle level D1 school usually means the kid had other offers. There are 74 D1 schools. Think of the odds of going D1. Approximately 65 - 80 goalies and FOGOs, 150 to 225 attack and defensemen and 500 to 750 middies each year are taken for D1. 2021 year the numbers will be lower because of school budgets and NCAA allowing a 5th year of eligibility. Being one of those 150 - 225 attack taken is a great accomplishment even if it is a middle level school. With all the AA teams in the country and players being taken from Canada it is very hard to get a D1 offer. That's why the B teams from 91, Igloo and Express are not getting D1 players recruited. If the top team has 25 players that means the B team players are ranked 25 - 50 in that one club. The AA team does not have 100 percent D1 players and some don't ever get an offer. The chances are very low for a D1 player to be on the B team and getting a D1 offer when all the AA players do not all get D1 offers. The colleges know those kids are ranked low on the club and look elsewhere. They know that many clubs including Long Island clubs , have top players that would be ranked in the top 25 for Igloo, Express and 91. That explains why FLG, Rebels, Legacy and even the Outlaws players get offers before the big clubs bottom AA team players and B team. Add to the mix B teams play in lesser tournaments and against lesser players so it is hard to read how good those players are.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/17/20 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?

Because owners are smarter than the rest of us consumers. He probably sat his son down and gave him the same talk that parents give kids about santa clause but instead with LAX. There is no future in LAX son so lets use your talent to pay for as much school as possible. You can go to top D1 school and come out with 200,000 in student loans or go to smaller D1 school and come out with 50,000 in student loans. More importantly get that Business degree for as little as possible and spend the rest of your life teaching kids to play lacrosse for 3-5k a year. Set for life working in the sport you love.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/17/20 04:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?



1) maybe his is not as good as he thinks he is
2) maybe his sons choice was based on what major he wants
3) maybe his sons choice was based on comfort with the school and fit on the team
3) maybe his just fell in love with the choice he made and feels this is where he wants to be and it’s just not all about lacrosse
His choice. Why do you care.

It shows the real answer about these club owners who preach about how they are going to get their players in the best lacrosse colleges. It's all a money scam. Any "B" or "C" player can get into that college and play lax. You don't need to be on Igloo/91/Express "A" team. Save your money.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/17/20 04:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?

With all the notIntelligent comments on this site, this is top 5.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/17/20 06:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?



1) maybe his is not as good as he thinks he is
2) maybe his sons choice was based on what major he wants
3) maybe his sons choice was based on comfort with the school and fit on the team
3) maybe his just fell in love with the choice he made and feels this is where he wants to be and it’s just not all about lacrosse
His choice. Why do you care.

It shows the real answer about these club owners who preach about how they are going to get their players in the best lacrosse colleges. It's all a money scam. Any "B" or "C" player can get into that college and play lax. You don't need to be on Igloo/91/Express "A" team. Save your money.

Not any B or C player can get a spot at that school. Be fair. It is a good school that gets better every year in lacrosse and academics. All commits for that program for 2021 came from AA teams. 225 attack players will be lucky enough to get a D1 spot for 2021. This is a top 40 lacrosse school. I wish the kid well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/17/20 07:29 PM
It shows the real answer about these club owners who preach about how they are going to get their players in the best lacrosse colleges. It's all a money scam. Any "B" or "C" player can get into that college and play lax. You don't need to be on Igloo/91/Express "A" team. Save your money.[/quote]

Not any B or C player can get a spot at that school. Be fair. It is a good school that gets better every year in lacrosse and academics. All commits for that program for 2021 came from AA teams. 225 attack players will be lucky enough to get a D1 spot for 2021. This is a top 40 lacrosse school. I wish the kid well.[/quote]

Stop being biased, and it's an analogy that any good player can play at that school. There are kids all over the country not on AA clubs who are playing D1. Igloo/91/Express are a money grab.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/17/20 10:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It shows the real answer about these club owners who preach about how they are going to get their players in the best lacrosse colleges. It's all a money scam. Any "B" or "C" player can get into that college and play lax. You don't need to be on Igloo/91/Express "A" team. Save your money.

Not any B or C player can get a spot at that school. Be fair. It is a good school that gets better every year in lacrosse and academics. All commits for that program for 2021 came from AA teams. 225 attack players will be lucky enough to get a D1 spot for 2021. This is a top 40 lacrosse school. I wish the kid well.[/quote]

Stop being biased, and it's an analogy that any good player can play at that school. There are kids all over the country not on AA clubs who are playing D1. Igloo/91/Express are a money grab.[/quote]


You are correct. Any good player could play there if they get an offer. Problem is only kids from AA teams get offers. All Providence 2021 Commits come from the following clubs all are AA :

Fighting Clams AA

Igloo Black Ice

91 Blaze

Coyotes Blue

Leading Edge AA

Laxachusetts Black

2 Way

Express Schreiber


All AA teams.

No Bias here, just facts
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 01:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It shows the real answer about these club owners who preach about how they are going to get their players in the best lacrosse colleges. It's all a money scam. Any "B" or "C" player can get into that college and play lax. You don't need to be on Igloo/91/Express "A" team. Save your money.

Not any B or C player can get a spot at that school. Be fair. It is a good school that gets better every year in lacrosse and academics. All commits for that program for 2021 came from AA teams. 225 attack players will be lucky enough to get a D1 spot for 2021. This is a top 40 lacrosse school. I wish the kid well.

Stop being biased, and it's an analogy that any good player can play at that school. There are kids all over the country not on AA clubs who are playing D1. Igloo/91/Express are a money grab.[/quote]


You are correct. Any good player could play there if they get an offer. Problem is only kids from AA teams get offers. All Providence 2021 Commits come from the following clubs all are AA :

Fighting Clams AA

Igloo Black Ice

91 Blaze

Coyotes Blue

Leading Edge AA

Laxachusetts Black

2 Way

Express Schreiber


All AA teams.

No Bias here, just facts[/quote]

8 kids only?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 02:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It shows the real answer about these club owners who preach about how they are going to get their players in the best lacrosse colleges. It's all a money scam. Any "B" or "C" player can get into that college and play lax. You don't need to be on Igloo/91/Express "A" team. Save your money.

Not any B or C player can get a spot at that school. Be fair. It is a good school that gets better every year in lacrosse and academics. All commits for that program for 2021 came from AA teams. 225 attack players will be lucky enough to get a D1 spot for 2021. This is a top 40 lacrosse school. I wish the kid well.

Stop being biased, and it's an analogy that any good player can play at that school. There are kids all over the country not on AA clubs who are playing D1. Igloo/91/Express are a money grab.


You are correct. Any good player could play there if they get an offer. Problem is only kids from AA teams get offers. All Providence 2021 Commits come from the following clubs all are AA :

Fighting Clams AA

Igloo Black Ice

91 Blaze

Coyotes Blue

Leading Edge AA

Laxachusetts Black

2 Way

Express Schreiber


All AA teams.

No Bias here, just facts[/quote]

8 kids only?[/quote]

There are 14. Igloo, leading Edge and Laxachusetts have multiple players going.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 02:49 AM
Not a great academic school. Period.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 02:53 AM
Not only are the Division 1 colleges looking for top players and not players from B teams but the the majority of players taken by Division 1 are prep or Parochial school kids. Public School kids are at a big disadvantage even if on a top club. I think a 91 goalie recently made a top D1 team playing on 91 B team so It does happen but it is rare.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 10:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not only are the Division 1 colleges looking for top players and not players from B teams but the the majority of players taken by Division 1 are prep or Parochial school kids. Public School kids are at a big disadvantage even if on a top club. I think a 91 goalie recently made a top D1 team playing on 91 B team so It does happen but it is rare.

Totally agree. Top D1 programs are typically more selective schools. Kids going to D1 programs also have to be academically similar to the other incoming freshmen. They can't be way below the average. A D1 coach doesn't want to battle the admissions office to explain why his recruits can't hang in the classroom. A coach has less risk recruiting kids from more academically challenging private schools. Public schools just don't prepare students for top schools - there are exceptions, however, but not many.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 11:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a great academic school. Period.

Correct. and this is the problem with these club owners like AA coming on here and justifying his sons acceptance to this low ranked academic and D1 team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 01:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not only are the Division 1 colleges looking for top players and not players from B teams but the the majority of players taken by Division 1 are prep or Parochial school kids. Public School kids are at a big disadvantage even if on a top club. I think a 91 goalie recently made a top D1 team playing on 91 B team so It does happen but it is rare.

So many of you talk about boys who are on B teams at 13, 14 & 15 years old as if they are talentless bums. First off, do you have any idea how much politics takes place in the formation of these A teams? Every A team has at least one coach's kid who shouldn't be on the team, then there are the friends and family of the coaches and directors, or what about when there are a bunch of kids from the same town so that the 'stud' player has someone to carpool with. Are you completely unaware of the parents who slip an extra envelope to the director to get their son onto one of these 'A' teams? Oh yeah, that happens. Go through 91, Express, Igloo and S2S and there are 8-10 boys on each A team roster who barely get into games or strategically play vs lousy teams. I'm not saying there are 8-10 boys on each B team who could take their spots but there are easily 2-3 boys on these B teams who could compete at the A level if they could break through the nonsense. I've seen situations where a 'B' player is a starter on their high school team over an 'A' team player from the same club. I'd take the high school coach's evaluation over the club director's any day in that situation.

Secondly, do you realize that every kid develops at their own pace? Some are early bloomers, some are undersized throughout grade school and then spring up in 9th grade after all these teams have been selected (try breaking onto one of these clubs for the first time in high school). Even professional sports teams misevaluate players and make terrible mistakes, that's how you get busts like Sam Bowie going over MJ just to name the most famous. Bet you haven't heard that Tom Brady was a sixth rounder! Mike Piazza was taken in the last round of the MLB draft. 13 NBA teams passed on Giannis and he's about to win his 2nd consecutive MVP. What makes you think a random club lacrosse coach or director makes all the right decisions?

Finally, with two boys going through the club scene over the last 10 years, I've seen plenty of "A" players come down to fill out their club's B team for a random tournament and do absolutely nothing and I've seen "B" players step up to fill in for an injured "A" player and dominate like they should have been there the whole time. 'A' rankings and 'B' rankings are fluid terms and subject to change. Take a look at the ebb and flow of some of these top LI teams for 2023, one in particular has fallen off significantly b/c they held on too long to a core that was strong in 2016 & 2017 and haven't made the difficult decision of telling some of their 'A' players the truth.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 02:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a great academic school. Period.

Wait are you saying that Providence is not a great academic school, if you mean not "great" as compared to an ivy or NESCAC school, I get it, but Providence is a good school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not only are the Division 1 colleges looking for top players and not players from B teams but the the majority of players taken by Division 1 are prep or Parochial school kids. Public School kids are at a big disadvantage even if on a top club. I think a 91 goalie recently made a top D1 team playing on 91 B team so It does happen but it is rare.

So many of you talk about boys who are on B teams at 13, 14 & 15 years old as if they are talentless bums. First off, do you have any idea how much politics takes place in the formation of these A teams? Every A team has at least one coach's kid who shouldn't be on the team, then there are the friends and family of the coaches and directors, or what about when there are a bunch of kids from the same town so that the 'stud' player has someone to carpool with. Are you completely unaware of the parents who slip an extra envelope to the director to get their son onto one of these 'A' teams? Oh yeah, that happens. Go through 91, Express, Igloo and S2S and there are 8-10 boys on each A team roster who barely get into games or strategically play vs lousy teams. I'm not saying there are 8-10 boys on each B team who could take their spots but there are easily 2-3 boys on these B teams who could compete at the A level if they could break through the nonsense. I've seen situations where a 'B' player is a starter on their high school team over an 'A' team player from the same club. I'd take the high school coach's evaluation over the club director's any day in that situation.

Secondly, do you realize that every kid develops at their own pace? Some are early bloomers, some are undersized throughout grade school and then spring up in 9th grade after all these teams have been selected (try breaking onto one of these clubs for the first time in high school). Even professional sports teams misevaluate players and make terrible mistakes, that's how you get busts like Sam Bowie going over MJ just to name the most famous. Bet you haven't heard that Tom Brady was a sixth rounder! Mike Piazza was taken in the last round of the MLB draft. 13 NBA teams passed on Giannis and he's about to win his 2nd consecutive MVP. What makes you think a random club lacrosse coach or director makes all the right decisions?

Finally, with two boys going through the club scene over the last 10 years, I've seen plenty of "A" players come down to fill out their club's B team for a random tournament and do absolutely nothing and I've seen "B" players step up to fill in for an injured "A" player and dominate like they should have been there the whole time. 'A' rankings and 'B' rankings are fluid terms and subject to change. Take a look at the ebb and flow of some of these top LI teams for 2023, one in particular has fallen off significantly b/c they held on too long to a core that was strong in 2016 & 2017 and haven't made the difficult decision of telling some of their 'A' players the truth.

This guy nailed it on the head! Complete accuracy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 02:42 PM
Yes. The 91 goalie made a solid D1 program from their B team... the A team goalies were set before he joined the 91 program.

Yet, he was seen at his HS game ( against another player who was already committed to said school ) where he “stood on his head“ and the Assistant coach of that school was in attendance.

Can a player be recruited to a top school playing for a B team? Absolutely. Is it undoubtedly harder to be seen by college coaches on a B team? Absolutely, and for a multitude of reasons. Coaches can only see a finite number of games when attending tournaments since multiple games are going on at the same time. They want to see players playing against other high level teams bc A.) They get to see multiple recruitable players in a game and B.) If a player stands out, you know that it isn’t bc they are playing against a sub par team.

Bottom line is you have to do what is best for your kid and there is no wrong answer as to where you both decide where you want to play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 03:40 PM
This is complete BS. Those public school kids still have to pass Admissions, still have to have the grades, still have to be NCAA eligible with a pairing of GPA and test scores to make them eligible. Those public school kids work very hard to get where they are going in D1, mostly in non-hot bed areas where they have spent their entire childhoods working on their own and putting in the time on the field and in the classroom. These kids are the very definition of hard work.
Maybe historically East coast prep schools sent the most kids to play D1, but times are changing and athletes are coming from all over the country ready to compete with any kid in college. To say that public school kids are not “prepared” to go to college because their parents can’t afford more than the average US citizens yearly take home pay in tuition is the most privileged statement I have ever heard. And the LAX community wonders why our sport is looked down upon by being a white rich kid sport. Stop perpetuating the idea that you have to be a prep school kid to be a successful athlete in college, that myth is debunked by every student athlete that graduates every year despite their parents income tax bracket and despite their high school.
Nothing is absolute, just like all the kids in prep schools who pay $65k a year that don’t get into a top level D1 programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 04:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes. The 91 goalie made a solid D1 program from their B team... the A team goalies were set before he joined the 91 program.

Yet, he was seen at his HS game ( against another player who was already committed to said school ) where he “stood on his head“ and the Assistant coach of that school was in attendance.

Can a player be recruited to a top school playing for a B team? Absolutely. Is it undoubtedly harder to be seen by college coaches on a B team? Absolutely, and for a multitude of reasons. Coaches can only see a finite number of games when attending tournaments since multiple games are going on at the same time. They want to see players playing against other high level teams bc A.) They get to see multiple recruitable players in a game and B.) If a player stands out, you know that it isn’t bc they are playing against a sub par team.

Bottom line is you have to do what is best for your kid and there is no wrong answer as to where you both decide where you want to play.

My older son got recruited from going to a prospect camp. He was on a AA team in HS. The varsity coach was more beneficial to him than the thousands of dollars I spent on his travel team. Oh, and he was a starter.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/18/20 07:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is complete BS. Those public school kids still have to pass Admissions, still have to have the grades, still have to be NCAA eligible with a pairing of GPA and test scores to make them eligible. Those public school kids work very hard to get where they are going in D1, mostly in non-hot bed areas where they have spent their entire childhoods working on their own and putting in the time on the field and in the classroom. These kids are the very definition of hard work.
Maybe historically East coast prep schools sent the most kids to play D1, but times are changing and athletes are coming from all over the country ready to compete with any kid in college. To say that public school kids are not “prepared” to go to college because their parents can’t afford more than the average US citizens yearly take home pay in tuition is the most privileged statement I have ever heard. And the LAX community wonders why our sport is looked down upon by being a white rich kid sport. Stop perpetuating the idea that you have to be a prep school kid to be a successful athlete in college, that myth is debunked by every student athlete that graduates every year despite their parents income tax bracket and despite their high school.
Nothing is absolute, just like all the kids in prep schools who pay $65k a year that don’t get into a top level D1 programs.

The prep school truther apparently hasn't looked at a college lacrosse roster recently. Go pull up any Ivy, Big East, Big Ten or ACC roster, they're littered with kids who graduated from CSH, Garden City, Manhasset, Ward Melville, SWR, John Jay, Yorktown, Bronxville, Darien, Greenwich, etc...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/19/20 03:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is complete BS. Those public school kids still have to pass Admissions, still have to have the grades, still have to be NCAA eligible with a pairing of GPA and test scores to make them eligible. Those public school kids work very hard to get where they are going in D1, mostly in non-hot bed areas where they have spent their entire childhoods working on their own and putting in the time on the field and in the classroom. These kids are the very definition of hard work.
Maybe historically East coast prep schools sent the most kids to play D1, but times are changing and athletes are coming from all over the country ready to compete with any kid in college. To say that public school kids are not “prepared” to go to college because their parents can’t afford more than the average US citizens yearly take home pay in tuition is the most privileged statement I have ever heard. And the LAX community wonders why our sport is looked down upon by being a white rich kid sport. Stop perpetuating the idea that you have to be a prep school kid to be a successful athlete in college, that myth is debunked by every student athlete that graduates every year despite their parents income tax bracket and despite their high school.
Nothing is absolute, just like all the kids in prep schools who pay $65k a year that don’t get into a top level D1 programs.

The prep school truther apparently hasn't looked at a college lacrosse roster recently. Go pull up any Ivy, Big East, Big Ten or ACC roster, they're littered with kids who graduated from CSH, Garden City, Manhasset, Ward Melville, SWR, John Jay, Yorktown, Bronxville, Darien, Greenwich, etc...
Some of the richest parts on Li and Connecticut schools .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/19/20 12:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is complete BS. Those public school kids still have to pass Admissions, still have to have the grades, still have to be NCAA eligible with a pairing of GPA and test scores to make them eligible. Those public school kids work very hard to get where they are going in D1, mostly in non-hot bed areas where they have spent their entire childhoods working on their own and putting in the time on the field and in the classroom. These kids are the very definition of hard work.
Maybe historically East coast prep schools sent the most kids to play D1, but times are changing and athletes are coming from all over the country ready to compete with any kid in college. To say that public school kids are not “prepared” to go to college because their parents can’t afford more than the average US citizens yearly take home pay in tuition is the most privileged statement I have ever heard. And the LAX community wonders why our sport is looked down upon by being a white rich kid sport. Stop perpetuating the idea that you have to be a prep school kid to be a successful athlete in college, that myth is debunked by every student athlete that graduates every year despite their parents income tax bracket and despite their high school.
Nothing is absolute, just like all the kids in prep schools who pay $65k a year that don’t get into a top level D1 programs.

The prep school truther apparently hasn't looked at a college lacrosse roster recently. Go pull up any Ivy, Big East, Big Ten or ACC roster, they're littered with kids who graduated from CSH, Garden City, Manhasset, Ward Melville, SWR, John Jay, Yorktown, Bronxville, Darien, Greenwich, etc...
Some of the richest parts on Li and Connecticut schools .


Less than 25 percent of college rosters come from public schools including the ones you mention. Much harder to get a D1 offer for a public school kid. One reason for this is public school kids are more likely to be the proper age. If you are the proper age and get a D1 offer it is a special accomplishment but if you are from a public school and are proper age you beat all odds and have to be proud.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/19/20 01:00 PM
It still does happen for Public School kids but there is no doubt it is a harder road. Prep kids are more prepared for college is ever aspect and the coaches know that going into it and if it came down to a public or prep kid they will take the prep kid . Go to any founders league game in May it is loaded with ever Div 1 coach you do not see that anymore with the Public schools
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/19/20 09:12 PM
Ok I don’t want to get into a war of words here but my kid plays club in Baltimore. Very
private school heavy as well. Our team is all private but maybe 5. No one on our team is going Div 1. There are major wannabes, but they are just that, wannabes.
I came here to say that these public school educators have had all of the Covid-time in the world to create ways to keep these kids playing and busy but haven’t lifted a finger because THEY JUST DON’T HAVE TO. That is where the wheat separates. The private coaches their job depends on it and kids come to them. Their livelihood depends on it.
Public school coaches don’t.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/19/20 10:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It still does happen for Public School kids but there is no doubt it is a harder road. Prep kids are more prepared for college is ever aspect and the coaches know that going into it and if it came down to a public or prep kid they will take the prep kid . Go to any founders league game in May it is loaded with ever Div 1 coach you do not see that anymore with the Public schools

The Nassau and Suffolk public school regional team tryouts had every D1 Coach (some multiple) and all the D3 coaches that the kids would want to go to. All coaches went to the tournament also.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/23/20 04:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]It still does happen for Public School kids but there is no doubt it is a harder road. Prep kids are more prepared for college is ever aspect and the coaches know that going into it and if it came down to a public or prep kid they will take the prep kid . Go to any founders league game in May it is loaded with ever Div 1 coach you do not see that anymore with the Public schools

Prep programs are like colleges were in the 80's and early 90's. They have recruiting lists, several coaches, funds for trips, alumni outreach programs, offseason programs, gym times, on and on. Public HS who compete and thrive on national level with grassroots efforts and local community (Darien, Yorktown, Duxbury, Manhasset, GC) deserve medals.

I'm sick of lacrosse media putting public and private into the same bucket to rank and judge them.

By the way, the prep surge is a recent phenomenon. Most of the New England preps were not generating many D1 lacrosse players until surge in the 2000's. The prep league with the PG's definitely cranked up their programs-- they used tons of cash, recruited players, and turned into lax factories (Taft, Culver, Brunswick, St Sebastians, etc.) because, like D1 football and hoops, it boosts alumni giving and creates demand from rich local clients (students).

Its pathetic and backwards that lacrosse recruiting to bigtime college programs is so concentrated in such few HS and club programs. With lacrosse growing in popularity across the country, its amazing how such few programs dominate the top recruiting scene. As if the 18th kid on Taft is better than the entire state of Minnesota or Georgia. Please.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/23/20 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Conservatively there are 5-6 potential D1 players on the 91 Warriors but they are not a typical B team. Too bad they didn’t get a chance to show it this year.

Every year 91 has the best B team and I agree every year those teams have many D1 players. However, when it comes time for recruiting those kids go to low level D2 and low level D3 schools. A couple each year will make a decent academic school. It is rare 91 B team players go D1 or go to a great school. Just look at the history. Every year the parents think their team is the exception. They find out they are wrong when it is too late. 2021 Ambush 91 is very good. Handful of commits all d2 and most schools people never heard of. 2020 and 2019 same thing. Great b teams with D1 players but 91 could not place many at a D1 or decent school. Rebels , Legacy and FLG placing many D1s for 2021. Parents have to look at the end game. Check your ego at the door, Trust me your ego will feel a lot better when you say your kid played for the Rebels or FLG but are playing D1 or at a great academic school.


Why would a college coach take a player from one of these teams (Rebels, FLG ect.) over a player that is better but is on 91 B team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/23/20 09:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Conservatively there are 5-6 potential D1 players on the 91 Warriors but they are not a typical B team. Too bad they didn’t get a chance to show it this year.

Every year 91 has the best B team and I agree every year those teams have many D1 players. However, when it comes time for recruiting those kids go to low level D2 and low level D3 schools. A couple each year will make a decent academic school. It is rare 91 B team players go D1 or go to a great school. Just look at the history. Every year the parents think their team is the exception. They find out they are wrong when it is too late. 2021 Ambush 91 is very good. Handful of commits all d2 and most schools people never heard of. 2020 and 2019 same thing. Great b teams with D1 players but 91 could not place many at a D1 or decent school. Rebels , Legacy and FLG placing many D1s for 2021. Parents have to look at the end game. Check your ego at the door, Trust me your ego will feel a lot better when you say your kid played for the Rebels or FLG but are playing D1 or at a great academic school.


Why would a college coach take a player from one of these teams (Rebels, FLG ect.) over a player that is better but is on 91 B team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/24/20 01:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Conservatively there are 5-6 potential D1 players on the 91 Warriors but they are not a typical B team. Too bad they didn’t get a chance to show it this year.

Every year 91 has the best B team and I agree every year those teams have many D1 players. However, when it comes time for recruiting those kids go to low level D2 and low level D3 schools. A couple each year will make a decent academic school. It is rare 91 B team players go D1 or go to a great school. Just look at the history. Every year the parents think their team is the exception. They find out they are wrong when it is too late. 2021 Ambush 91 is very good. Handful of commits all d2 and most schools people never heard of. 2020 and 2019 same thing. Great b teams with D1 players but 91 could not place many at a D1 or decent school. Rebels , Legacy and FLG placing many D1s for 2021. Parents have to look at the end game. Check your ego at the door, Trust me your ego will feel a lot better when you say your kid played for the Rebels or FLG but are playing D1 or at a great academic school.


Why would a college coach take a player from one of these teams (Rebels, FLG ect.) over a player that is better but is on 91 B team.

They would not. Ultimately it comes down to how good the player is. If they are not D1 they will not make a D1 school most of the time. BUT IF THEY ARE D1 THEY STILL MAY NOT MAKE D1. FLG and Rebels have legit D1 players for 2021. I think 91 B 2021 has a few too but 91B will almost never get a kid into D1. Those teams FLG and Rebels ( and Outlaws when the Rebels Directors were Outlaws Directors) always place D1 kids every year. 91 B and other big club B teams almost never do even though they have legit D1 players. So if a kid wants to go D1 or high level D3 he is better off going to FLG, Rebels etc. who have Directors with a history of placing kids at great schools rather that 91 B, Express B etc. who have a history of placing kids at schools people never heard of. This topic started with a 91 parent saying 2023 91B team has a bunch of D1 players. If they are smart they will go to FLG or Rebels. History is not kind to where legit D1 91 B team players go to college.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/26/20 02:54 PM
Hello. Quick question. My son is a 2024, so please humor me. He's going to be attending Showtime next summer but I wanted to get him used to the Showcase format. Are there any showcases that would be worthwhile to send my son as a 2024. Thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/26/20 05:04 PM
There probably aren't any worthwhile showcases for 2024. Most colleges aren't looking at that graduation year yet. My son went to Showtime last year ('23), and was scheduled for this year but due to COVID, he will go next summer. Great experience but college coaches are there mostly for older groups. I would recommend waiting till next year after Showtime to dabble into other showcases.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/26/20 05:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not only are the Division 1 colleges looking for top players and not players from B teams but the the majority of players taken by Division 1 are prep or Parochial school kids. Public School kids are at a big disadvantage even if on a top club. I think a 91 goalie recently made a top D1 team playing on 91 B team so It does happen but it is rare.

So many of you talk about boys who are on B teams at 13, 14 & 15 years old as if they are talentless bums. First off, do you have any idea how much politics takes place in the formation of these A teams? Every A team has at least one coach's kid who shouldn't be on the team, then there are the friends and family of the coaches and directors, or what about when there are a bunch of kids from the same town so that the 'stud' player has someone to carpool with. Are you completely unaware of the parents who slip an extra envelope to the director to get their son onto one of these 'A' teams? Oh yeah, that happens. Go through 91, Express, Igloo and S2S and there are 8-10 boys on each A team roster who barely get into games or strategically play vs lousy teams. I'm not saying there are 8-10 boys on each B team who could take their spots but there are easily 2-3 boys on these B teams who could compete at the A level if they could break through the nonsense. I've seen situations where a 'B' player is a starter on their high school team over an 'A' team player from the same club. I'd take the high school coach's evaluation over the club director's any day in that situation.

Secondly, do you realize that every kid develops at their own pace? Some are early bloomers, some are undersized throughout grade school and then spring up in 9th grade after all these teams have been selected (try breaking onto one of these clubs for the first time in high school). Even professional sports teams misevaluate players and make terrible mistakes, that's how you get busts like Sam Bowie going over MJ just to name the most famous. Bet you haven't heard that Tom Brady was a sixth rounder! Mike Piazza was taken in the last round of the MLB draft. 13 NBA teams passed on Giannis and he's about to win his 2nd consecutive MVP. What makes you think a random club lacrosse coach or director makes all the right decisions?

Finally, with two boys going through the club scene over the last 10 years, I've seen plenty of "A" players come down to fill out their club's B team for a random tournament and do absolutely nothing and I've seen "B" players step up to fill in for an injured "A" player and dominate like they should have been there the whole time. 'A' rankings and 'B' rankings are fluid terms and subject to change. Take a look at the ebb and flow of some of these top LI teams for 2023, one in particular has fallen off significantly b/c they held on too long to a core that was strong in 2016 & 2017 and haven't made the difficult decision of telling some of their 'A' players the truth.


My son used to play for Express. Two of his teammates were VERY good but could never get pulled up to the A team due to the political nonsense. They both ended up playing for other clubs. One got recruited to Maryland and the other is going to Denver.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/26/20 06:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There probably aren't any worthwhile showcases for 2024. Most colleges aren't looking at that graduation year yet. My son went to Showtime last year ('23), and was scheduled for this year but due to COVID, he will go next summer. Great experience but college coaches are there mostly for older groups. I would recommend waiting till next year after Showtime to dabble into other showcases.

Colleges aint look at anyone . Everything so F’*?k up at college level and recruiting now you will start seeing colleges get rid of the non revenue sports like lacrosse .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/26/20 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hello. Quick question. My son is a 2024, so please humor me. He's going to be attending Showtime next summer but I wanted to get him used to the Showcase format. Are there any showcases that would be worthwhile to send my son as a 2024. Thanks.
Doing the same with my '24. Not to catch the coaches eye but to get him used to the format. Due to schedule and location we landed on Apex Fall Showcase in October.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/26/20 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There probably aren't any worthwhile showcases for 2024. Most colleges aren't looking at that graduation year yet. My son went to Showtime last year ('23), and was scheduled for this year but due to COVID, he will go next summer. Great experience but college coaches are there mostly for older groups. I would recommend waiting till next year after Showtime to dabble into other showcases.

Colleges aint look at anyone . Everything so F’*?k up at college level and recruiting now you will start seeing colleges get rid of the non revenue sports like lacrosse .

Look at NYIT! Not good!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/27/20 12:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not only are the Division 1 colleges looking for top players and not players from B teams but the the majority of players taken by Division 1 are prep or Parochial school kids. Public School kids are at a big disadvantage even if on a top club. I think a 91 goalie recently made a top D1 team playing on 91 B team so It does happen but it is rare.

So many of you talk about boys who are on B teams at 13, 14 & 15 years old as if they are talentless bums. First off, do you have any idea how much politics takes place in the formation of these A teams? Every A team has at least one coach's kid who shouldn't be on the team, then there are the friends and family of the coaches and directors, or what about when there are a bunch of kids from the same town so that the 'stud' player has someone to carpool with. Are you completely unaware of the parents who slip an extra envelope to the director to get their son onto one of these 'A' teams? Oh yeah, that happens. Go through 91, Express, Igloo and S2S and there are 8-10 boys on each A team roster who barely get into games or strategically play vs lousy teams. I'm not saying there are 8-10 boys on each B team who could take their spots but there are easily 2-3 boys on these B teams who could compete at the A level if they could break through the nonsense. I've seen situations where a 'B' player is a starter on their high school team over an 'A' team player from the same club. I'd take the high school coach's evaluation over the club director's any day in that situation.

Secondly, do you realize that every kid develops at their own pace? Some are early bloomers, some are undersized throughout grade school and then spring up in 9th grade after all these teams have been selected (try breaking onto one of these clubs for the first time in high school). Even professional sports teams misevaluate players and make terrible mistakes, that's how you get busts like Sam Bowie going over MJ just to name the most famous. Bet you haven't heard that Tom Brady was a sixth rounder! Mike Piazza was taken in the last round of the MLB draft. 13 NBA teams passed on Giannis and he's about to win his 2nd consecutive MVP. What makes you think a random club lacrosse coach or director makes all the right decisions?

Finally, with two boys going through the club scene over the last 10 years, I've seen plenty of "A" players come down to fill out their club's B team for a random tournament and do absolutely nothing and I've seen "B" players step up to fill in for an injured "A" player and dominate like they should have been there the whole time. 'A' rankings and 'B' rankings are fluid terms and subject to change. Take a look at the ebb and flow of some of these top LI teams for 2023, one in particular has fallen off significantly b/c they held on too long to a core that was strong in 2016 & 2017 and haven't made the difficult decision of telling some of their 'A' players the truth.


My son used to play for Express. Two of his teammates were VERY good but could never get pulled up to the A team due to the political nonsense. They both ended up playing for other clubs. One got recruited to Maryland and the other is going to Denver.

That is the point everyone is trying to make. Had those players stayed on Express B they would not have played D1. The B teams from Express, Igloo and 91 all have D1 players but do not get the looks by top colleges. When a call does come in for one of them the club coach directs them to a kid on the top team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/27/20 01:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There probably aren't any worthwhile showcases for 2024. Most colleges aren't looking at that graduation year yet. My son went to Showtime last year ('23), and was scheduled for this year but due to COVID, he will go next summer. Great experience but college coaches are there mostly for older groups. I would recommend waiting till next year after Showtime to dabble into other showcases.

Colleges aint look at anyone . Everything so F’*?k up at college level and recruiting now you will start seeing colleges get rid of the non revenue sports like lacrosse .

Believe it some nuts parents out there . Believe it .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/27/20 03:12 PM
Anybody attend the UA All America tryout for the LI team yesterday?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/27/20 04:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody attend the UA All America tryout for the LI team yesterday?
yes, mostly 91 and express, some igloo. Same issue every year... kids were picked before heading to Jersey.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/27/20 04:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody attend the UA All America tryout for the LI team yesterday?
The great political spectacular! Just look at the coaches and you’ll be able to yell who made the team regardless of tryout performance. Framingdale kids just need to run up and down for show and they’ll make it. 91 Daddy coach is going to take care of his boys, and S2s director will make sure he’s represented so they can post that on the website.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/27/20 11:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody attend the UA All America tryout for the LI team yesterday?
yes, mostly 91 and express, some igloo. Same issue every year... kids were picked before heading to Jersey.
Best players from the best teams - makes sense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/28/20 12:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody attend the UA All America tryout for the LI team yesterday?
The great political spectacular! Just look at the coaches and you’ll be able to yell who made the team regardless of tryout performance. Framingdale kids just need to run up and down for show and they’ll make it. 91 Daddy coach is going to take care of his boys, and S2s director will make sure he’s represented so they can post that on the website.

Igloo director asked to evaluate and No showed so as mad as I will be if our boys don’t get picked most of my anger will go to our leader Of course people will take care of their own Where was TA or coavhes well we know why one wasn’t asked because he’s embarrassing
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/28/20 12:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody attend the UA All America tryout for the LI team yesterday?
The great political spectacular! Just look at the coaches and you’ll be able to yell who made the team regardless of tryout performance. Framingdale kids just need to run up and down for show and they’ll make it. 91 Daddy coach is going to take care of his boys, and S2s director will make sure he’s represented so they can post that on the website.

Igloo director asked to evaluate and No showed so as mad as I will be if our boys don’t get picked most of my anger will go to our leader Of course people will take care of their own Where was TA or coavhes well we know why one wasn’t asked because he’s embarrassing
1. So your son plays for igloo?
2. It’s ok for evaluators to self serve?
3. Or maybe, your just a troll from another club stirringly up again.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/28/20 01:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody attend the UA All America tryout for the LI team yesterday?
The great political spectacular! Just look at the coaches and you’ll be able to yell who made the team regardless of tryout performance. Framingdale kids just need to run up and down for show and they’ll make it. 91 Daddy coach is going to take care of his boys, and S2s director will make sure he’s represented so they can post that on the website.

Igloo director asked to evaluate and No showed so as mad as I will be if our boys don’t get picked most of my anger will go to our leader Of course people will take care of their own Where was TA or coavhes well we know why one wasn’t asked because he’s embarrassing

Igloo....They are done. TA cared about the 21s and 22s. the 2023 is decent. After that total train wreck. He just doesnt have the network to scale his business. He and Crommy should have put their names on more teams. Nobody does it as good as CoachC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/28/20 02:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody attend the UA All America tryout for the LI team yesterday?
yes, mostly 91 and express, some igloo. Same issue every year... kids were picked before heading to Jersey.
Best players from the best teams - makes sense.

Some of 91, igloo and express are the best. Yes without a doubt. But funny how some kids from some other Long Island clubs that are not igloo, express or 91 AA teams make Maverik showtime all star team ahead of those same 91, igloo and express kids that get picked for Nassau or Suffolk regional team and UA All American. Don’t fool yourself. Politics plays a big part in these teams selections on Long Island.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/28/20 01:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody attend the UA All America tryout for the LI team yesterday?
The great political spectacular! Just look at the coaches and you’ll be able to yell who made the team regardless of tryout performance. Framingdale kids just need to run up and down for show and they’ll make it. 91 Daddy coach is going to take care of his boys, and S2s director will make sure he’s represented so they can post that on the website.

Igloo director asked to evaluate and No showed so as mad as I will be if our boys don’t get picked most of my anger will go to our leader Of course people will take care of their own Where was TA or coavhes well we know why one wasn’t asked because he’s embarrassing

Igloo....They are done. TA cared about the 21s and 22s. the 2023 is decent. After that total train wreck. He just doesnt have the network to scale his business. He and Crommy should have put their names on more teams. Nobody does it as good as CoachC

TA should of been there. Every club is invited to evaluate
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/28/20 02:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody attend the UA All America tryout for the LI team yesterday?
The great political spectacular! Just look at the coaches and you’ll be able to yell who made the team regardless of tryout performance. Framingdale kids just need to run up and down for show and they’ll make it. 91 Daddy coach is going to take care of his boys, and S2s director will make sure he’s represented so they can post that on the website.

Igloo director asked to evaluate and No showed so as mad as I will be if our boys don’t get picked most of my anger will go to our leader Of course people will take care of their own Where was TA or coavhes well we know why one wasn’t asked because he’s embarrassing

Igloo....They are done. TA cared about the 21s and 22s. the 2023 is decent. After that total train wreck. He just doesnt have the network to scale his business. He and Crommy should have put their names on more teams. Nobody does it as good as CoachC

TA should of been there. Every club is invited to evaluate

Igloo definitely has been going downhill. Especially after their political games with coaching and selected players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/28/20 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody attend the UA All America tryout for the LI team yesterday?
The great political spectacular! Just look at the coaches and you’ll be able to yell who made the team regardless of tryout performance. Framingdale kids just need to run up and down for show and they’ll make it. 91 Daddy coach is going to take care of his boys, and S2s director will make sure he’s represented so they can post that on the website.

Igloo director asked to evaluate and No showed so as mad as I will be if our boys don’t get picked most of my anger will go to our leader Of course people will take care of their own Where was TA or coavhes well we know why one wasn’t asked because he’s embarrassing

Igloo....They are done. TA cared about the 21s and 22s. the 2023 is decent. After that total train wreck. He just doesnt have the network to scale his business. He and Crommy should have put their names on more teams. Nobody does it as good as CoachC

TA should of been there. Every club is invited to evaluate

Igloo definitely has been going downhill. Especially after their political games with coaching and selected players.

Cronyism. Option was there to pick better players/students in the past 4-5 years for '21-'23. It would have built the reputation in a different way. Chose to stick with friends and fill pocket from those who play the political game. At least six players from each age group shouldn't be on the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/28/20 04:31 PM
Cronyism. Option was there to pick better players/students in the past 4-5 years for '21-'23. It would have built the reputation in a different way. Chose to stick with friends and fill pocket from those who play the political game. At least six players from each age group shouldn't be on the team.[/quote]

I'll bet those 6 kids have super nice parents who don't spend their days on these boards.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/29/20 06:36 PM
Many of the 2023 kids that made UA are 2022 holdbacks. So lame. But their parents can brag about making UA even though they needed to hold little Johnny back to do it. None of those kids would have made it if they stayed at 2022. Its not fair to the 2023 kids that didn't make it because they are playing on age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/29/20 07:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Many of the 2023 kids that made UA are 2022 holdbacks. So lame. But their parents can brag about making UA even though they needed to hold little Johnny back to do it. None of those kids would have made it if they stayed at 2022. Its not fair to the 2023 kids that didn't make it because they are playing on age.

Are you really still talking about the holdback issue? The way the lax world works.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/29/20 08:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Many of the 2023 kids that made UA are 2022 holdbacks. So lame. But their parents can brag about making UA even though they needed to hold little Johnny back to do it. None of those kids would have made it if they stayed at 2022. Its not fair to the 2023 kids that didn't make it because they are playing on age.

Are you really still talking about the holdback issue? The way the lax world works.

Holdbacks will happening more and more with big college roster sizes due to corona virus
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/29/20 11:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Many of the 2023 kids that made UA are 2022 holdbacks. So lame. But their parents can brag about making UA even though they needed to hold little Johnny back to do it. None of those kids would have made it if they stayed at 2022. Its not fair to the 2023 kids that didn't make it because they are playing on age.

As "bad" as it was before its gonna be real bad now. For the record I don't think its bad and families do their own thing but I can say I have spoke to at least 1/2 a dozen to a dozen lacrosse friends who will be reclassifying their kids due to covid. About 4 just did it and they are going to schools in Conn and Mass and another 1/2 dozen are starting the application process for next year and ALL will be reclassifying. Many others will be taking PG years. Taft on their instagram page is touting 3 new boys who are PGs who have already committed going to Duke, NC and Michigan. This is the new norm and these are boys who are clearly excellent and D1. So for all those who say it ain't fair - just like face masks - its going to be the new normal. Fair or not fair it is what it is and if a boy cant hang with another boy a year or so older then they shouldn't be seeking to playing the game at a high level (UA tryouts). BTW my kid goes to public school so not held back and not TAFT and I really hope my sons team never plays TAFT!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/30/20 12:17 AM
Agreed. You have to stop complaining about the holdbacks. The boys are in high school now and they are playing against older kids. The holdback issue is valid in 3rd & 4th grade. At this point, it is just whining.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/30/20 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. You have to stop complaining about the holdbacks. The boys are in high school now and they are playing against older kids. The holdback issue is valid in 3rd & 4th grade. At this point, it is just whining.

I thought only the MD parents held their kids back? You FLIDs in on the act now too? Better not hear you whining on the sideline anymore - except in 3rd and 4th grade apparently.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/30/20 05:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. You have to stop complaining about the holdbacks. The boys are in high school now and they are playing against older kids. The holdback issue is valid in 3rd & 4th grade. At this point, it is just whining.


My older son plays D1 at a top program. He’s actually young for his Grade and was a varsity high school starter As a freshman.I have to disagree with you. In high school you have a mix of mostly 17 and 16-year-olds and sometimes younger. At least there is some older kids On the high school team. When you go to Maryland and play kids that are a year older or from Canada who are sometimes two years older than your entire team it is frustrating. However it made my kid a better player and we never complained. The ones I feel bad for are the kids that would have beenBeen a division one player but the holdbacks or reclass kids took their spots.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/31/20 12:42 PM
Its funny how parents are so angry at that those celebrities who paid for there kids to get into college yet this stuff goes on in youth lacrosse. Hypocrites.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/31/20 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Agreed. You have to stop complaining about the holdbacks. The boys are in high school now and they are playing against older kids. The holdback issue is valid in 3rd & 4th grade. At this point, it is just whining.


My older son plays D1 at a top program. He’s actually young for his Grade and was a varsity high school starter As a freshman.I have to disagree with you. In high school you have a mix of mostly 17 and 16-year-olds and sometimes younger. At least there is some older kids On the high school team. When you go to Maryland and play kids that are a year older or from Canada who are sometimes two years older than your entire team it is frustrating. However it made my kid a better player and we never complained. The ones I feel bad for are the kids that would have beenBeen a division one player but the holdbacks or reclass kids took their spots.

I feel badly for the kids at Taft who thought they would start/play this Spring only to learn 3 D1 commits are showing up. It's the nature of boarding schools but it's still a bummer to watch the PGs play from the bench.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 08/31/20 04:05 PM
My son reclassed this spring for non covid reasons as applications were due before any lockdowns were in place. I am not against or for reclassifying as kids do it for different reasons. My son for academic/ LD reasons others for athletic. Reality is he was shocked to find out this week there are multiple others in every grade who have reclassed and yes the Canadians are on grade but still as old or older. he is excited that there are 4 PG's on campus and 3-4 reclasses which will make the team better. he said no chance he makes varsity this season which is fine as he'll play much more on JV his freshman season. I was upset initially but he's fine with it so I have to be OK with all the reclasses. He just wants to play so who am I to judge.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/01/20 05:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My son reclassed this spring for non covid reasons as applications were due before any lockdowns were in place. I am not against or for reclassifying as kids do it for different reasons. My son for academic/ LD reasons others for athletic. Reality is he was shocked to find out this week there are multiple others in every grade who have reclassed and yes the Canadians are on grade but still as old or older. he is excited that there are 4 PG's on campus and 3-4 reclasses which will make the team better. he said no chance he makes varsity this season which is fine as he'll play much more on JV his freshman season. I was upset initially but he's fine with it so I have to be OK with all the reclasses. He just wants to play so who am I to judge.

Its so great when parents say they are reclassifying for academic reasons. How about drop the lacrosse for homework or tutoring. And Canadians start kindergarten at 5 years old just like the US so if they are the same age or older as your son then they are holdbacks as well. Probably have the same academic problems. How nice of some parents to keep paying to do the same private school grades over and over because of their kids learning disabilities.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/01/20 06:44 PM
So now w Covid, kids that have repeated early on are now going to PG too. So now my son who doesn't want to PG will need to compete against kids two years his age for College spots in a few years? When does this stop? Can they repeat twice and then PG too?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/02/20 04:23 PM
Showtime is a multi-day format which is much different than the single day showcases. Single day formats do not really allow the teams to get to know one another so players are bit more selfish with the ball or stand around waiting for the ball so he can make a dodge through multiple players. If you are prepping for Showtime then consider a multi-day prospect day which is more expensive but the kids develop a rapport with one another and play much better team ball. Not to exclude defensive players but slides happen more frequently and is just an all around better experience.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/03/20 08:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So now w Covid, kids that have repeated early on are now going to PG too. So now my son who doesn't want to PG will need to compete against kids two years his age for College spots in a few years? When does this stop? Can they repeat twice and then PG too?

As long as the sport openly encourages holding back players, it's going to keep surging. "Top 10" 2022 list including DOB shows everyone how rigged it all is. One kid is older than a freshman I have in college. The myth of #1 ranked player "playing up for 2 years" is burst.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/05/20 03:11 AM
I mean you’re not really “playing up” 2 years if you are the same age as the kids on the team your are playing up on? Are you? Just another ego inflating thing parents tell themselves. I would expect any kid to look like a super star against kids 2 years younger than them. My senior in high school right now is a 4/04 birthday. September 02 is way old for a junior no matter how you slice it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/05/20 11:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I mean you’re not really “playing up” 2 years if you are the same age as the kids on the team your are playing up on? Are you? Just another ego inflating thing parents tell themselves. I would expect any kid to look like a super star against kids 2 years younger than them. My senior in high school right now is a 4/04 birthday. September 02 is way old for a junior no matter how you slice it.

All true, but allow me to let you in on a little secret: not only do the the college coaches not care, they actually LOVE holdbacks. The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year. And yet, per the story in IL, his phone exploded at midnight on 9/1. He will have his pick of any school in the country. The only ones who care about holdbacks are other parents....You really, really need to understand that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/05/20 04:10 PM
It's a rigged game for families that can afford to have their kids repeat grades - with all the hype, am happy to see Ty Xanders finally beginning disclose age info. If these are high profile student athletes - how's that academic arrested development working?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/05/20 04:53 PM
There is actually nothing wrong with holdbacks. If someone wants to be 18 and a sophomore in HS, fine. But youth lacrosse should be organized by birth year, Hockey is a great example of how this can work. There, unless a kid is a Jack Eichel type phenom, the college coaches don't want him at 18 when he leaves HS. The large majority of freshman playing D1 hockey are 19-20 yo. For on age kids, the kids will play a year or two in juniors (or a top level 18U team) until they are ready.

Thus, club lacrosse should be age based through age 15. Starting at 16, there should be a junior system where the top 16-20 year olds not yet in college play - this should be a closed invite only league with only elite players. For every one else - it will continue age based through 18.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/05/20 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/05/20 07:56 PM
The double holdback is actually the #1 2021 kid. That kid should be starting his sophomore year in college. Instead he is a rising senior. Again, coaches don’t care. I was at 3d Blue Chip event years ago when several droned on about how they love holdbacks since they are bigger, stronger and more mature. I agree 100% that lax should be age based.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/05/20 08:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/06/20 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.
That's some good information, wonder if that double holdback status will be taken into account in recruiting reports and college coach's evals.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/08/20 02:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.
That's some good information, wonder if that double holdback status will be taken into account in recruiting reports and college coach's evals.

No it wont and why should it. A college coach generally has an athlete for 4 or 5 years and if you can get an athlete with 2 years additional years of maturation and strength that is who they will pick. The Hockey analogy a few posts ago nailed it on the head. Unlike professional sports where a coach or team can spend a couple of years waiting for the athlete to mature or grow, a college coach doesn't have that option. A coach wanting bigger and faster makes perfect sense and it won't change. Signed, Public school parent whose son turns 18 in May of senior year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/13/20 09:05 PM
Harvard just committed a 2022 rising junior goalie. The kid has a 2002 birthday which means he should be starting his freshman year in college. Let that sink in for people who think coaches care about birthdays or that there isn’t a huge upside to holding back your kid. Sad but undeniably true: CHEATING WORKS!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/15/20 10:26 AM
On the Harvard commit, chirps from the opposing attack during his senior year "hey can you buy us some beer after the game?" or "Is this 15th year of school going too fast for you?" or just segue into Good Will Hunting quips "Your folks just spent 150 grand on HS education you could have gotten for $1.50 in late fees at the public library"
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/15/20 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.

Hes not really going to be 18 in spring ? right? I'd believe 17 if he was a double hold back.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/15/20 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.
That's some good information, wonder if that double holdback status will be taken into account in recruiting reports and college coach's evals.

It will be taken into account when he is 30 years old going to his 1st job interview after he realized there is no money in lacrosse. So your 30 years old and spent 6 years in high school and 5 in college..... Great candidate to clean toilets.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/15/20 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.
That's some good information, wonder if that double holdback status will be taken into account in recruiting reports and college coach's evals.

It will be taken into account when he is 30 years old going to his 1st job interview after he realized there is no money in lacrosse. So your 30 years old and spent 6 years in high school and 5 in college..... Great candidate to clean toilets.

Why does anyone think this kid or any of the other reclassed kids are looking at a lacrosse career. If anyone looks at the 2022 list of committed schools I would say its well worth it. Some of the schools include Duke, Virginia, Princeton, Cornell, Yale, Notre Dame, Harvard, etc . . .While it is true that not all the schools are for boys who reclassed the point is that reclass or not the top boys are going to excellent academic institutions and if they graduate from these schools and work hard then they are good to go. Also, I am sure a few will seek the "pro" route (and hopefully one day a lifestyle can be made for others not named Rabil and Parnell) it would seem that playing lax is working so far.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/15/20 07:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.
That's some good information, wonder if that double holdback status will be taken into account in recruiting reports and college coach's evals.

It will be taken into account when he is 30 years old going to his 1st job interview after he realized there is no money in lacrosse. So your 30 years old and spent 6 years in high school and 5 in college..... Great candidate to clean toilets.

Why does anyone think this kid or any of the other reclassed kids are looking at a lacrosse career. If anyone looks at the 2022 list of committed schools I would say its well worth it. Some of the schools include Duke, Virginia, Princeton, Cornell, Yale, Notre Dame, Harvard, etc . . .While it is true that not all the schools are for boys who reclassed the point is that reclass or not the top boys are going to excellent academic institutions and if they graduate from these schools and work hard then they are good to go. Also, I am sure a few will seek the "pro" route (and hopefully one day a lifestyle can be made for others not named Rabil and Parnell) it would seem that playing lax is working so far.

Your exactly right. They love doing 8th grade math and english so much their parents are going to fork over the 10k private school tuition again and again. Lets spend $20k in EXTRA private school tuition to go on top of the already 40k so our son can get 20-30k in lacrosse scholarships. Surely nobody is that dense so they must be holding back for the love of math, english, science etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/17/20 01:25 PM
I commend the parents that notice their kids have "LEARNING DISABILITIES" and step up to give their kids the help they need...Maybe they got the extra help, and did their homework, maybe their school district couldn't connect or didn't care. But to say give up on the sport, is wrong. Physical ability is just has important has mental.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/18/20 03:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I commend the parents that notice their kids have "LEARNING DISABILITIES" and step up to give their kids the help they need...Maybe they got the extra help, and did their homework, maybe their school district couldn't connect or didn't care. But to say give up on the sport, is wrong. Physical ability is just has important has mental.

Your talking about lacrosse in his forum,not football or basketball. If your kid is 6ft 9 or taller then physical may be just as important. If your kid can't pass grade 8 then cut out the lacrosse until schooling gets on track. Your not going to make a financial career out of lacrosse. Unless you want to keep paying your kids rent for the rest of his life.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/18/20 07:05 PM
Sorry, if parents want smaller class size, and can afford it...hold them back, and get the best education...whats the problem...you're not paying for it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/18/20 08:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, if parents want smaller class size, and can afford it...hold them back, and get the best education...whats the problem...you're not paying for it.

LOL. You forgot to say - hold them back and get the best education...... but get them to play lacrosse with kids their own age and not the kids they are in class with. People on this forum aren't notIntelligent. Talent plays up with older kids to get better and lost parents hold their lost kids back to beat up on younger kids to inflate their own egos primarily and then to brag to their friends that little johnny scores 4 goals a game. Whats next, gender reassignment in 8th grade for boys so they can play with the girls that are 2 years younger?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/19/20 01:42 PM
Yeah. Life is not fair as we know. But it still stinks for your kid to not start or get cut because johnny repeated a grade or heldback. Why have age cutoffs if we are going to disregard them. Because my kid can't compete I should repeat and take opportunities from a younger kid? At the youth level it matters. High school is gloves off. But the holdback already stole 8 or 9 years of opportunities from other kids by the time 9th grade comes in lacrosse
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/19/20 04:43 PM
If you can get your kid into an IVY or Duke, ND, UVA, Hop, etc. you have given them a path to change their life trajectory. That's what this is about. Not scholarship money. BTW, all of the above school are very generous with need based grants.

If holding back helps your chances then the ends justify the means. I get it's not fair because holding back isn't an option for some. Consider a PG. Most prep schools will offer free ride
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/19/20 06:06 PM
Hockey does it right........travel hockey is grouped by birth year; you are born in 2008 you play with and against 08's whether you are in 7th grade or 5th.
The problem w/lacrosse being by grade is the 'cutoff' is different in every state and then the so called gray months become different as well. MD is Sept 1, so anyone born in the summer can choose to be the oldest in the class or go early and be the youngest. Long Island is Dec 1st, so their gray months become Sept, Oct and Nov. Irregardless when we give parents the option and age doesn't matter but rather grade, we will always get 12 year olds playing against 14 year olds.
HS kids should be graduating at 17/18, not 19, but if they allow it then parents will do it for any edge. It's the nature of the beast and we can complain all we want, but it's never going to change. FYI college coaches get you for 4 years, they would rather have you at 20, 21, 22 and 23, than 18, 19, 20 and 21.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/20/20 02:50 PM
Are we still arguing about this? Our boys are sophomores. They all understand the way the game is played. Most of our kids will just have to work harder to keep up with older kids on same grade club teams. If they don't become a famous lacrosse player but they learn ethics of hard work and teamwork they will be OK in life.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/22/20 05:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Harvard just committed a 2022 rising junior goalie. The kid has a 2002 birthday which means he should be starting his freshman year in college. Let that sink in for people who think coaches care about birthdays or that there isn’t a huge upside to holding back your kid. Sad but undeniably true: CHEATING WORKS!


Nope. Kid is from Ohio where Sept 1 is school cutoff day for starting school. He should be one of the older 21s. If repeating 9th grade a Culver would land my kid at Harvard and I could pay for all that, yeah I do it and so would you. detest on the kid or his parents for reclassing but don't make stuff up. Whomever posted that M kid turning 18 is also posting false info. He'll be 17 and yes he reclassed. Exaggerating weakens your argument.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/22/20 05:55 PM
Let's change the topic....Which clubs are going to September Shootout this weekend, and are college recruiters?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/22/20 06:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's change the topic....Which clubs are going to September Shootout this weekend, and are college recruiters?

All showcases, tourneys and recruitment events are coach/recruiter-free. Everything is done by video. So go buy a camera and start getting film on your kids, or purchase the game film if there is one available. There will be no in-person recruiting until Jan. 1 (at the earliest). Most, if not all, schools are focused on 2022's until they fill their rosters, which will take them into the new year. 23's are on the back burner until the 2021 summer and fall tourneys. What we should be doing at this point is getting film and a highlight reel together. We need to contact coaches of schools that our son's are interested in, relay that interest in their school and program, and inquire about their prospect camps. And, make sure our boys are hitting the gym and the books. That's how recruiting works these days if you're ranked outside the top 50.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/22/20 08:06 PM
If your kid is good enough to get into one of those ivy league schools to play lacrosse then there is no need to hold them back. What are they going to do when they are off to college and daddy isn't there to cheat for them? Probably fail.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/23/20 01:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your kid is good enough to get into one of those ivy league schools to play lacrosse then there is no need to hold them back. What are they going to do when they are off to college and daddy isn't there to cheat for them? Probably fail.

Probably not. Older and more mature. Probably succeed with little difficulty.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/23/20 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your kid is good enough to get into one of those ivy league schools to play lacrosse then there is no need to hold them back. What are they going to do when they are off to college and daddy isn't there to cheat for them? Probably fail.

Probably not. Older and more mature. Probably succeed with little difficulty.

My guess is they are hanging out at high school party's with duke lacrosse jackets on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/23/20 04:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If your kid is good enough to get into one of those ivy league schools to play lacrosse then there is no need to hold them back. What are they going to do when they are off to college and daddy isn't there to cheat for them? Probably fail.

This conversation is so dense. If you move out of NY most of the kids are older because school starts in Aug and quite a few of the kids do not start K when they should so they are naturally older. It's been proven time and time again that collage coaches want older kids on campus so again pointless argument.

I get it it's not right that some are able to do it but most 17 year old kids have difficulty adapting to school at that level so if you have the means why not give them the best chance to succeed. You really believe the people doing this and going to those schools are thinking (PLL or BUST) come on people. We get it it's not for you but most of these parents had a plan in mind and it had nothing to do with their kids turning pro in Lax. I know it stings to see the commits form the kids you know are older and think man if my son had a year more he could have been that kid. Well you have the choice spend the money and hold him/her back.

Next topic
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/23/20 05:29 PM
Holdbacks and reclassed kids - have fun graduating college at 25 years old. with
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/23/20 06:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This conversation is so dense. If you move out of NY most of the kids are older because school starts in Aug and quite a few of the kids do not start K when they should so they are naturally older. It's been proven time and time again that collage coaches want older kids on campus so again pointless argument.

I get it it's not right that some are able to do it but most 17 year old kids have difficulty adapting to school at that level so if you have the means why not give them the best chance to succeed. You really believe the people doing this and going to those schools are thinking (PLL or BUST) come on people. We get it it's not for you but most of these parents had a plan in mind and it had nothing to do with their kids turning pro in Lax. I know it stings to see the commits form the kids you know are older and think man if my son had a year more he could have been that kid. Well you have the choice spend the money and hold him/her back.

Next topic
This is the reason lacrosse will not grow beyond a certain point and can only flourish so much. The rich/poor divide will never allow the sport to rise in popularity to the level of football, basketball and soccer. If holdbacks are the way to succeed and you need money to holdback/post-grad a kid then you are cutting out a ton of the population. There is no reason lax needs to be a country club sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/23/20 07:33 PM
Every HS sport has holdbacks....all for same reason...BETTER CHANCE AT A SCHOLORSHIP...it just that simple.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/23/20 07:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Every HS sport has holdbacks....all for same reason...BETTER CHANCE AT A SCHOLORSHIP...it just that simple.
Maybe if you weren't held back you would know how to spell SCHOLARSHIP
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/23/20 10:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This conversation is so dense. If you move out of NY most of the kids are older because school starts in Aug and quite a few of the kids do not start K when they should so they are naturally older. It's been proven time and time again that collage coaches want older kids on campus so again pointless argument.

I get it it's not right that some are able to do it but most 17 year old kids have difficulty adapting to school at that level so if you have the means why not give them the best chance to succeed. You really believe the people doing this and going to those schools are thinking (PLL or BUST) come on people. We get it it's not for you but most of these parents had a plan in mind and it had nothing to do with their kids turning pro in Lax. I know it stings to see the commits form the kids you know are older and think man if my son had a year more he could have been that kid. Well you have the choice spend the money and hold him/her back.

Next topic
This is the reason lacrosse will not grow beyond a certain point and can only flourish so much. The rich/poor divide will never allow the sport to rise in popularity to the level of football, basketball and soccer. If holdbacks are the way to succeed and you need money to holdback/post-grad a kid then you are cutting out a ton of the population. There is no reason lax needs to be a country club sport.

Nope. It's the cost of equipment, club teams, tournaments & recruiting events. The soccer club system also excludes poor kids. I agree that lacrosse should be by age until high school. But looky here our boys are in HS and still people blather on about this. If your kid is a top D1 talent he'll get found regardless of age/club/school. If he's on the margins maybe just pick a D3 that fits his academics and he'll get to actually play. Or go to a big football school and play MCLA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/24/20 01:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nope. It's the cost of equipment, club teams, tournaments & recruiting events. The soccer club system also excludes poor kids. I agree that lacrosse should be by age until high school. But looky here our boys are in HS and still people blather on about this. If your kid is a top D1 talent he'll get found regardless of age/club/school. If he's on the margins maybe just pick a D3 that fits his academics and he'll get to actually play. Or go to a big football school and play MCLA
Equipment is not expensive, club dues get compensated, its the parents like you that create the divide. I honestly have no idea what MCLA is, but I know my son loves lax and none of his friends have ever played as they see it as a rich white kids sport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/24/20 02:05 PM
Lacrosse .... where rich parents screw over poor kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/24/20 02:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nope. It's the cost of equipment, club teams, tournaments & recruiting events. The soccer club system also excludes poor kids. I agree that lacrosse should be by age until high school. But looky here our boys are in HS and still people blather on about this. If your kid is a top D1 talent he'll get found regardless of age/club/school. If he's on the margins maybe just pick a D3 that fits his academics and he'll get to actually play. Or go to a big football school and play MCLA
Equipment is not expensive, club dues get compensated, its the parents like you that create the divide. I honestly have no idea what MCLA is, but I know my son loves lax and none of his friends have ever played as they see it as a rich white kids sport.
You are spot on. $3000 club fees, $500 showcase fees, $35,000 to PG, and clubs convincing kids they can't succeed without them. The bar has been raised to benefit the rich and 99% white kids. The underprivileged don't even try anymore and that's showing up on LI big time. 7 of the top 10 boys in the class of 2021 are private school kids, schools that cost $25,000 plus. How is that possible? How does it happen in any sports that 7 of the top 10 players are rich and white?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/24/20 04:04 PM
Can anyone give any advice on these Fall showcases for the 2023s? Is there any value in attending if college coaches aren't there? Thinking about signing my son up for one but these things are $500 and take up a whole day. Other than "getting used to the experience" is there any point as far as recruiting?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/24/20 05:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone give any advice on these Fall showcases for the 2023s? Is there any value in attending if college coaches aren't there? Thinking about signing my son up for one but these things are $500 and take up a whole day. Other than "getting used to the experience" is there any point as far as recruiting?

No, its a waste of money at this age group unless you are going to a showcase for a specific college.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/24/20 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can anyone give any advice on these Fall showcases for the 2023s? Is there any value in attending if college coaches aren't there? Thinking about signing my son up for one but these things are $500 and take up a whole day. Other than "getting used to the experience" is there any point as far as recruiting?

Im not sure that anyone is looking at 2023's, but getting used to the experience is not a bad idea. It's also a great way to get film for his highlight reel that you'll need to send to coaches in the spring and summer. Get as much film as you possible can just in case the dead period extends again.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/25/20 08:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nope. It's the cost of equipment, club teams, tournaments & recruiting events. The soccer club system also excludes poor kids. I agree that lacrosse should be by age until high school. But looky here our boys are in HS and still people blather on about this. If your kid is a top D1 talent he'll get found regardless of age/club/school. If he's on the margins maybe just pick a D3 that fits his academics and he'll get to actually play. Or go to a big football school and play MCLA
Equipment is not expensive, club dues get compensated, its the parents like you that create the divide. I honestly have no idea what MCLA is, but I know my son loves lax and none of his friends have ever played as they see it as a rich white kids sport.

It's hilarious to see to see the expressions on some of these "Beachie Type, Karen Moms" when they walk on a field and see a team made up of majority of black kids. I wish there was more diversity...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/25/20 02:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nope. It's the cost of equipment, club teams, tournaments & recruiting events. The soccer club system also excludes poor kids. I agree that lacrosse should be by age until high school. But looky here our boys are in HS and still people blather on about this. If your kid is a top D1 talent he'll get found regardless of age/club/school. If he's on the margins maybe just pick a D3 that fits his academics and he'll get to actually play. Or go to a big football school and play MCLA
Equipment is not expensive, club dues get compensated, its the parents like you that create the divide. I honestly have no idea what MCLA is, but I know my son loves lax and none of his friends have ever played as they see it as a rich white kids sport.

It's hilarious to see to see the expressions on some of these "Beachie Type, Karen Moms" when they walk on a field and see a team made up of majority of black kids. I wish there was more diversity...

Huh??? Not sure where you were trying to go with this, but it seems your point may have been lost.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/25/20 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nope. It's the cost of equipment, club teams, tournaments & recruiting events. The soccer club system also excludes poor kids. I agree that lacrosse should be by age until high school. But looky here our boys are in HS and still people blather on about this. If your kid is a top D1 talent he'll get found regardless of age/club/school. If he's on the margins maybe just pick a D3 that fits his academics and he'll get to actually play. Or go to a big football school and play MCLA
Equipment is not expensive, club dues get compensated, its the parents like you that create the divide. I honestly have no idea what MCLA is, but I know my son loves lax and none of his friends have ever played as they see it as a rich white kids sport.
You are spot on. $3000 club fees, $500 showcase fees, $35,000 to PG, and clubs convincing kids they can't succeed without them. The bar has been raised to benefit the rich and 99% white kids. The underprivileged don't even try anymore and that's showing up on LI big time. 7 of the top 10 boys in the class of 2021 are private school kids, schools that cost $25,000 plus. How is that possible? How does it happen in any sports that 7 of the top 10 players are rich and white?

This is the definition of white privilege and systematic racism. Rich white parents gaming a system that ultimately takes opportunities away from the underprivileged.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/25/20 05:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nope. It's the cost of equipment, club teams, tournaments & recruiting events. The soccer club system also excludes poor kids. I agree that lacrosse should be by age until high school. But looky here our boys are in HS and still people blather on about this. If your kid is a top D1 talent he'll get found regardless of age/club/school. If he's on the margins maybe just pick a D3 that fits his academics and he'll get to actually play. Or go to a big football school and play MCLA
Equipment is not expensive, club dues get compensated, its the parents like you that create the divide. I honestly have no idea what MCLA is, but I know my son loves lax and none of his friends have ever played as they see it as a rich white kids sport.
You are spot on. $3000 club fees, $500 showcase fees, $35,000 to PG, and clubs convincing kids they can't succeed without them. The bar has been raised to benefit the rich and 99% white kids. The underprivileged don't even try anymore and that's showing up on LI big time. 7 of the top 10 boys in the class of 2021 are private school kids, schools that cost $25,000 plus. How is that possible? How does it happen in any sports that 7 of the top 10 players are rich and white?

This is the definition of white privilege and systematic racism. Rich white parents gaming a system that ultimately takes opportunities away from the underprivileged.

Not quite lost. I am a minority and my kids play the sport and there is no racism that I have ever encountered. I've actually been given more opportunities than my friends kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/25/20 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nope. It's the cost of equipment, club teams, tournaments & recruiting events. The soccer club system also excludes poor kids. I agree that lacrosse should be by age until high school. But looky here our boys are in HS and still people blather on about this. If your kid is a top D1 talent he'll get found regardless of age/club/school. If he's on the margins maybe just pick a D3 that fits his academics and he'll get to actually play. Or go to a big football school and play MCLA
Equipment is not expensive, club dues get compensated, its the parents like you that create the divide. I honestly have no idea what MCLA is, but I know my son loves lax and none of his friends have ever played as they see it as a rich white kids sport.
You are spot on. $3000 club fees, $500 showcase fees, $35,000 to PG, and clubs convincing kids they can't succeed without them. The bar has been raised to benefit the rich and 99% white kids. The underprivileged don't even try anymore and that's showing up on LI big time. 7 of the top 10 boys in the class of 2021 are private school kids, schools that cost $25,000 plus. How is that possible? How does it happen in any sports that 7 of the top 10 players are rich and white?

This is the definition of white privilege and systematic racism. Rich white parents gaming a system that ultimately takes opportunities away from the underprivileged.

I'd love to see a HBO sports or something like that about the white privilege lacrosse holdback system and how the other sports all go by year. Where and how it started and how people justify it. "I'm giving my son a better chance to get a college scholarship!". How about get your son to work harder like everyone else before you go the lori loughlin route.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/25/20 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nope. It's the cost of equipment, club teams, tournaments & recruiting events. The soccer club system also excludes poor kids. I agree that lacrosse should be by age until high school. But looky here our boys are in HS and still people blather on about this. If your kid is a top D1 talent he'll get found regardless of age/club/school. If he's on the margins maybe just pick a D3 that fits his academics and he'll get to actually play. Or go to a big football school and play MCLA
Equipment is not expensive, club dues get compensated, its the parents like you that create the divide. I honestly have no idea what MCLA is, but I know my son loves lax and none of his friends have ever played as they see it as a rich white kids sport.
You are spot on. $3000 club fees, $500 showcase fees, $35,000 to PG, and clubs convincing kids they can't succeed without them. The bar has been raised to benefit the rich and 99% white kids. The underprivileged don't even try anymore and that's showing up on LI big time. 7 of the top 10 boys in the class of 2021 are private school kids, schools that cost $25,000 plus. How is that possible? How does it happen in any sports that 7 of the top 10 players are rich and white?

This is the definition of white privilege and systematic racism. Rich white parents gaming a system that ultimately takes opportunities away from the underprivileged.

I'd love to see a HBO sports or something like that about the white privilege lacrosse holdback system and how the other sports all go by year. Where and how it started and how people justify it. "I'm giving my son a better chance to get a college scholarship!". How about get your son to work harder like everyone else before you go the lori loughlin route.

The difference is that what Lori Loughlin did was illegal. Some may question the ethics of the "holdback" but no law against it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/25/20 08:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is the definition of white privilege and systematic racism. Rich white parents gaming a system that ultimately takes opportunities away from the underprivileged.

As if black kids don't (1) get held back and (2) get scholarship money from private schools. This has zero to do with racism (pretend "systemic" or otherwise) and everything to do with what sports are popular with different kids in different areas. Is it "systemic racism" that gets great black basketball players recruited by top end prep schools in greater numbers than white kids?

Around here there are many black kids who grew up in the area where lacrosse is seen as "cool". Those kids play and are given every opportunity (plus some extras ones with programs meant to "grow the game").
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/25/20 08:39 PM
Age based youth lacrosse and holdbacks need not be thought of as mutually exclusive. I don't care what grade in school a kid is, or when he or she plans on graduating HS and/or entering college, so long as they play in youth events against kids their own age. College hockey at the D1 level, for instance, has mostly "older" student athletes, yet hockey at the youth level is competed on a BY basis.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/28/20 01:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Age based youth lacrosse and holdbacks need not be thought of as mutually exclusive. I don't care what grade in school a kid is, or when he or she plans on graduating HS and/or entering college, so long as they play in youth events against kids their own age. College hockey at the D1 level, for instance, has mostly "older" student athletes, yet hockey at the youth level is competed on a BY basis.

**yaaaaaawwwnnnnn

This is played out
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/28/20 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Age based youth lacrosse and holdbacks need not be thought of as mutually exclusive. I don't care what grade in school a kid is, or when he or she plans on graduating HS and/or entering college, so long as they play in youth events against kids their own age. College hockey at the D1 level, for instance, has mostly "older" student athletes, yet hockey at the youth level is competed on a BY basis.

**yaaaaaawwwnnnnn

This is played out

Played out is an under statement! If parents elect to hold their kids back in order to get a leg up in the lax recruiting circuit, more power to them. But leave the "dead horse" alone in it's grave, beating it any further will not change a thing. I've always said, lax parents an odd bunch
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/28/20 10:49 PM
What is going on with Under Armor on Oct 17/18. Does anyone know how they are doing this? Do i have it right that all regions except us have played?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/28/20 11:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This conversation is so dense. If you move out of NY most of the kids are older because school starts in Aug and quite a few of the kids do not start K when they should so they are naturally older. It's been proven time and time again that collage coaches want older kids on campus so again pointless argument.

I get it it's not right that some are able to do it but most 17 year old kids have difficulty adapting to school at that level so if you have the means why not give them the best chance to succeed. You really believe the people doing this and going to those schools are thinking (PLL or BUST) come on people. We get it it's not for you but most of these parents had a plan in mind and it had nothing to do with their kids turning pro in Lax. I know it stings to see the commits form the kids you know are older and think man if my son had a year more he could have been that kid. Well you have the choice spend the money and hold him/her back.

Next topic
This is the reason lacrosse will not grow beyond a certain point and can only flourish so much. The rich/poor divide will never allow the sport to rise in popularity to the level of football, basketball and soccer. If holdbacks are the way to succeed and you need money to holdback/post-grad a kid then you are cutting out a ton of the population. There is no reason lax needs to be a country club sport.

You are wrong. The reason lacrosse will never be more than a "country club sport" as you put it is there are no full scholarships. Most parents won't go in 100% for all the travel and club fees because a Football, Basketball player can get a full scholarship vs a few grand on average. On top of that there is the potential for careers on the sport as well as hockey so how is a sport with no financial future directly tied to play cutting out a ton of the population when they can play other sports and get free college if they are good enough.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/29/20 12:38 AM
The North regional will be played right there at the Final tourn before
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/29/20 04:25 PM
The reason lacrosse is a "country club sport" beside the lack of scholarships is that in the pal or towns team like football, most towns, you're given all the equipment to play when you sign up for a reasonable price. And travel cost 3K - 4K . Lacrosse, you have to supply the helmet, stick, the shoulder pads, elbow pads and any other equipment you need...HS gives you the helmet and a uniform. When my son started to play, there were only a few spots around me where I could get the equipment...now at least you can get starter at Dicks, even some Walmarts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/29/20 08:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The reason lacrosse is a "country club sport" beside the lack of scholarships is that in the pal or towns team like football, most towns, you're given all the equipment to play when you sign up for a reasonable price. And travel cost 3K - 4K . Lacrosse, you have to supply the helmet, stick, the shoulder pads, elbow pads and any other equipment you need...HS gives you the helmet and a uniform. When my son started to play, there were only a few spots around me where I could get the equipment...now at least you can get starter at Dicks, even some Walmarts.

The game must be grown to lower the cost of initiation agreed. Have to support those who are growing this great game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/30/20 05:16 PM
RE: UA. So we play two games on Saturday morning to decide the North winner and then winner moves on later on Saturday to play South East and West the same day? So strange, so 2020
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/30/20 06:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RE: UA. So we play two games on Saturday morning to decide the North winner and then winner moves on later on Saturday to play South East and West the same day? So strange, so 2020
No one cares!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/30/20 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RE: UA. So we play two games on Saturday morning to decide the North winner and then winner moves on later on Saturday to play South East and West the same day? So strange, so 2020
No one cares!

yeah, also they probably picked the kids through fake video submissions.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 09/30/20 08:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
RE: UA. So we play two games on Saturday morning to decide the North winner and then winner moves on later on Saturday to play South East and West the same day? So strange, so 2020
No one cares!

Grouchy - my son did not make it either smile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/01/20 02:18 AM
Tryouts this year were sham. 6-8 teams to evaluate. 30 guys on each team. just thrown together for games. no evaluations drills. head spinning...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/01/20 02:19 AM
Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?
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Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/05/20 08:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?

Has any coach given any real feedback regarding the Fall tourneys, showcases, etc . . My sons coach has said they they will have zero impact since coaches cant attend. Curious what others have been told.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/06/20 04:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?

Has any coach given any real feedback regarding the Fall tourneys, showcases, etc . . My sons coach has said they they will have zero impact since coaches cant attend. Curious what others have been told.

Any non-campus showcase is normally shaky. Now without coaches? A social media hype bubble.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/06/20 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?

Has any coach given any real feedback regarding the Fall tourneys, showcases, etc . . My sons coach has said they they will have zero impact since coaches cant attend. Curious what others have been told.

Any non-campus showcase is normally shaky. Now without coaches? A social media hype bubble.

My son's team is going down to Maryland for a recruiting tournament that's useless. More $$ to fork out during covid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/08/20 04:44 AM
Turtles look great !!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/08/20 11:42 AM
dense Meanyfocus on your own team and stop trying to find ways to make your soap opera life interesting
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/08/20 12:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
dense Meanyfocus on your own team and stop trying to find ways to make your soap opera life interesting
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?

Has any coach given any real feedback regarding the Fall tourneys, showcases, etc . . My sons coach has said they they will have zero impact since coaches cant attend. Curious what others have been told.

Any non-campus showcase is normally shaky. Now without coaches? A social media hype bubble.

My son's team is going down to Maryland for a recruiting tournament that's useless. More $$ to fork out during covid.

What LI teams are going down to Maryland tournaments?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/08/20 02:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
dense Meanyfocus on your own team and stop trying to find ways to make your soap opera life interesting
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?

Has any coach given any real feedback regarding the Fall tourneys, showcases, etc . . My sons coach has said they they will have zero impact since coaches cant attend. Curious what others have been told.

Any non-campus showcase is normally shaky. Now without coaches? A social media hype bubble.

My son's team is going down to Maryland for a recruiting tournament that's useless. More $$ to fork out during covid.

What LI teams are going down to Maryland tournaments?

The truth is that only D1 schools are not attending showcases in person, D2 and D3 are, so maybe not such a waste of time. Also the tournaments and showcases get you more opportunities for game film, which may be important for reaching out to D1 coaches. Also, if your kid is seriously considering college lacrosse, why would they ever want to turn down an opportunity to play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/08/20 02:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?

Has any coach given any real feedback regarding the Fall tourneys, showcases, etc . . My sons coach has said they they will have zero impact since coaches cant attend. Curious what others have been told.

Any non-campus showcase is normally shaky. Now without coaches? A social media hype bubble.

My son's team is going down to Maryland for a recruiting tournament that's useless. More $$ to fork out during covid.

You forgot to mention the additional costs of hotel, eating out, gas, and most importantly it's going to be Virtual. I'm sure your kid is going to get a call from all the top D1 schools as a 10th grader.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/09/20 06:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?



My son's team is going down to Maryland for a recruiting tournament that's useless. More $$ to fork out during covid.

You forgot to mention the additional costs of hotel, eating out, gas, and most importantly it's going to be Virtual. I'm sure your kid is going to get a call from all the top D1 schools as a 10th grader.

1% is this weekend. Any feedback from prior attendees ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/14/20 02:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?



My son's team is going down to Maryland for a recruiting tournament that's useless. More $$ to fork out during covid.

You forgot to mention the additional costs of hotel, eating out, gas, and most importantly it's going to be Virtual. I'm sure your kid is going to get a call from all the top D1 schools as a 10th grader.

1% is this weekend. Any feedback from prior attendees ?

This was the first year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/14/20 11:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?

Has any coach given any real feedback regarding the Fall tourneys, showcases, etc . . My sons coach has said they they will have zero impact since coaches cant attend. Curious what others have been told.

I think it is about getting game film which you should use to create a highlight reel to send to college coaches going into the summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/14/20 12:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?

Has any coach given any real feedback regarding the Fall tourneys, showcases, etc . . My sons coach has said they they will have zero impact since coaches cant attend. Curious what others have been told.

I think it is about getting game film which you should use to create a highlight reel to send to college coaches going into the summer.
Yeah, I can't wait to go down to Maryland to get some game film. Coach is clueless.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/14/20 01:01 PM
Just my 2 cents as a 2022 parent in recruitment...

The Fall 2020 film for a 2023 recruit will not matter. College coaches won’t care about this film since it’ll be a year old once you enter recruitment. The coaches will go off of summer 2020 Under Armour Underclass attendees, their future camp/clinic attendees once the dead period is lifted and top club rosters to build their initial 2023 lists. And of course watching them play live whenever that will be able to occur again. For the 2022 class they did build these initial lists when they watched them live during the Fall of 2019 but these lists changed significantly by the time Sept came. They don’t ever look back at this old Fall film a year later. And who even knows what the recruit landscape will look like Sept 2021 if the current dead period continues into winter 2021 and if the spring 21 college season is altered. They will grant another year to current College players and even current 21 & 22 commits will be competing for spots and scholarship money. It’s been a very unusual recruiting season for the 22’s and I can’t imagine how it will be like for the 23’s. The biggest determining factor for the 2022 class commits has been the relationship your club recruiting Director or high school coach has with the individual college coaches. And of course where you stand with your club recruiting director or high school coach. Choose your club and high school very carefully.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/14/20 02:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just my 2 cents as a 2022 parent in recruitment...

The Fall 2020 film for a 2023 recruit will not matter. College coaches won’t care about this film since it’ll be a year old once you enter recruitment. The coaches will go off of summer 2020 Under Armour Underclass attendees, their future camp/clinic attendees once the dead period is lifted and top club rosters to build their initial 2023 lists. And of course watching them play live whenever that will be able to occur again. For the 2022 class they did build these initial lists when they watched them live during the Fall of 2019 but these lists changed significantly by the time Sept came. They don’t ever look back at this old Fall film a year later. And who even knows what the recruit landscape will look like Sept 2021 if the current dead period continues into winter 2021 and if the spring 21 college season is altered. They will grant another year to current College players and even current 21 & 22 commits will be competing for spots and scholarship money. It’s been a very unusual recruiting season for the 22’s and I can’t imagine how it will be like for the 23’s. The biggest determining factor for the 2022 class commits has been the relationship your club recruiting Director or high school coach has with the individual college coaches. And of course where you stand with your club recruiting director or high school coach. Choose your club and high school very carefully.

Don't disagree except for narrowing it down to UA. I think coaches are moving away from the event and moving towards Main Stage and Juniors Open. These events from 2020 had a massive impact for big time recruits in the 2022 class. I think these events in 2021 will be big for 2023.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/14/20 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just my 2 cents as a 2022 parent in recruitment...

The Fall 2020 film for a 2023 recruit will not matter. College coaches won’t care about this film since it’ll be a year old once you enter recruitment. The coaches will go off of summer 2020 Under Armour Underclass attendees, their future camp/clinic attendees once the dead period is lifted and top club rosters to build their initial 2023 lists. And of course watching them play live whenever that will be able to occur again. For the 2022 class they did build these initial lists when they watched them live during the Fall of 2019 but these lists changed significantly by the time Sept came. They don’t ever look back at this old Fall film a year later. And who even knows what the recruit landscape will look like Sept 2021 if the current dead period continues into winter 2021 and if the spring 21 college season is altered. They will grant another year to current College players and even current 21 & 22 commits will be competing for spots and scholarship money. It’s been a very unusual recruiting season for the 22’s and I can’t imagine how it will be like for the 23’s. The biggest determining factor for the 2022 class commits has been the relationship your club recruiting Director or high school coach has with the individual college coaches. And of course where you stand with your club recruiting director or high school coach. Choose your club and high school very carefully.

Don't disagree except for narrowing it down to UA. I think coaches are moving away from the event and moving towards Main Stage and Juniors Open. These events from 2020 had a massive impact for big time recruits in the 2022 class. I think these events in 2021 will be big for 2023.

Word is that coaches are really still focusing on 2021's. Then they still need to get to the bulk of the 2022's. Late summer and Fall 2021 will be key for 2023, not much until then. This virus has not been kind to these 3 recruiting classes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/20/20 08:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just my 2 cents as a 2022 parent in recruitment...

The Fall 2020 film for a 2023 recruit will not matter. College coaches won’t care about this film since it’ll be a year old once you enter recruitment. The coaches will go off of summer 2020 Under Armour Underclass attendees, their future camp/clinic attendees once the dead period is lifted and top club rosters to build their initial 2023 lists. And of course watching them play live whenever that will be able to occur again. For the 2022 class they did build these initial lists when they watched them live during the Fall of 2019 but these lists changed significantly by the time Sept came. They don’t ever look back at this old Fall film a year later. And who even knows what the recruit landscape will look like Sept 2021 if the current dead period continues into winter 2021 and if the spring 21 college season is altered. They will grant another year to current College players and even current 21 & 22 commits will be competing for spots and scholarship money. It’s been a very unusual recruiting season for the 22’s and I can’t imagine how it will be like for the 23’s. The biggest determining factor for the 2022 class commits has been the relationship your club recruiting Director or high school coach has with the individual college coaches. And of course where you stand with your club recruiting director or high school coach. Choose your club and high school very carefully.

Don't disagree except for narrowing it down to UA. I think coaches are moving away from the event and moving towards Main Stage and Juniors Open. These events from 2020 had a massive impact for big time recruits in the 2022 class. I think these events in 2021 will be big for 2023.

Word is that coaches are really still focusing on 2021's. Then they still need to get to the bulk of the 2022's. Late summer and Fall 2021 will be key for 2023, not much until then. This virus has not been kind to these 3 recruiting classes.

It looks some fall cancellations or adjustments are slowly being made and COVID is about to wreck havoc on October /November lax. Just received email re the ID experience and bc Maryland just added to travel ban from NY they are trying to find a way to move things. Oye, the fun is about to begin bc folks wont wear masks!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/21/20 11:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just my 2 cents as a 2022 parent in recruitment...

The Fall 2020 film for a 2023 recruit will not matter. College coaches won’t care about this film since it’ll be a year old once you enter recruitment. The coaches will go off of summer 2020 Under Armour Underclass attendees, their future camp/clinic attendees once the dead period is lifted and top club rosters to build their initial 2023 lists. And of course watching them play live whenever that will be able to occur again. For the 2022 class they did build these initial lists when they watched them live during the Fall of 2019 but these lists changed significantly by the time Sept came. They don’t ever look back at this old Fall film a year later. And who even knows what the recruit landscape will look like Sept 2021 if the current dead period continues into winter 2021 and if the spring 21 college season is altered. They will grant another year to current College players and even current 21 & 22 commits will be competing for spots and scholarship money. It’s been a very unusual recruiting season for the 22’s and I can’t imagine how it will be like for the 23’s. The biggest determining factor for the 2022 class commits has been the relationship your club recruiting Director or high school coach has with the individual college coaches. And of course where you stand with your club recruiting director or high school coach. Choose your club and high school very carefully.

Don't disagree except for narrowing it down to UA. I think coaches are moving away from the event and moving towards Main Stage and Juniors Open. These events from 2020 had a massive impact for big time recruits in the 2022 class. I think these events in 2021 will be big for 2023.

Word is that coaches are really still focusing on 2021's. Then they still need to get to the bulk of the 2022's. Late summer and Fall 2021 will be key for 2023, not much until then. This virus has not been kind to these 3 recruiting classes.

It looks some fall cancellations or adjustments are slowly being made and COVID is about to wreck havoc on October /November lax. Just received email re the ID experience and bc Maryland just added to travel ban from NY they are trying to find a way to move things. Oye, the fun is about to begin bc folks wont wear masks!

Wearing a mask is so easy, why not just do it? Too many macho men and women. Sad because we are screwing our own kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/21/20 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks some fall cancellations or adjustments are slowly being made and COVID is about to wreck havoc on October /November lax. Just received email re the ID experience and bc Maryland just added to travel ban from NY they are trying to find a way to move things. Oye, the fun is about to begin bc folks wont wear masks!

Was that email from the IL ID folks and was it just to NY invitees? We are coming from PA and have not seen that email. I wouldn't be surprised as they had to move the UA games...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/21/20 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks some fall cancellations or adjustments are slowly being made and COVID is about to wreck havoc on October /November lax. Just received email re the ID experience and bc Maryland just added to travel ban from NY they are trying to find a way to move things. Oye, the fun is about to begin bc folks wont wear masks!

Was that email from the IL ID folks and was it just to NY invitees? We are coming from PA and have not seen that email. I wouldn't be surprised as they had to move the UA games...

Good question. Don't know. We are from NY though so maybe that's the case.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/21/20 04:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just my 2 cents as a 2022 parent in recruitment...

The Fall 2020 film for a 2023 recruit will not matter. College coaches won’t care about this film since it’ll be a year old once you enter recruitment. The coaches will go off of summer 2020 Under Armour Underclass attendees, their future camp/clinic attendees once the dead period is lifted and top club rosters to build their initial 2023 lists. And of course watching them play live whenever that will be able to occur again. For the 2022 class they did build these initial lists when they watched them live during the Fall of 2019 but these lists changed significantly by the time Sept came. They don’t ever look back at this old Fall film a year later. And who even knows what the recruit landscape will look like Sept 2021 if the current dead period continues into winter 2021 and if the spring 21 college season is altered. They will grant another year to current College players and even current 21 & 22 commits will be competing for spots and scholarship money. It’s been a very unusual recruiting season for the 22’s and I can’t imagine how it will be like for the 23’s. The biggest determining factor for the 2022 class commits has been the relationship your club recruiting Director or high school coach has with the individual college coaches. And of course where you stand with your club recruiting director or high school coach. Choose your club and high school very carefully.

Don't disagree except for narrowing it down to UA. I think coaches are moving away from the event and moving towards Main Stage and Juniors Open. These events from 2020 had a massive impact for big time recruits in the 2022 class. I think these events in 2021 will be big for 2023.

Comments are not wholly incorrect but I think you are wrong that UA is the primary venue for D1 coaches given how poorly it has been run recently. I also think your wrong about granting another year of eligibility. I believe the NCAA has come to regret this decision and would unwind if they could. It has caused great consternation from coaches as they have bloated rosters. Coaches have a rhythm to recruiting and this has thrown things off. For a few programs it is a boon but it will bite some of them in the _ss because they may not get that stud freshman if he knows he has some uncertainty or has to wait another year to start. Film is a good thing and even if you have to update or give new film in the summer, it is a way of getting onto these college coaches depth chart without having been the stud player where not every college coach is marking his calendar for when your tournament is. One thing for sure is recruiting is changing and the past is not a predictor of the future.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/22/20 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks some fall cancellations or adjustments are slowly being made and COVID is about to wreck havoc on October /November lax. Just received email re the ID experience and bc Maryland just added to travel ban from NY they are trying to find a way to move things. Oye, the fun is about to begin bc folks wont wear masks!

Was that email from the IL ID folks and was it just to NY invitees? We are coming from PA and have not seen that email. I wouldn't be surprised as they had to move the UA games...

Good question. Don't know. We are from NY though so maybe that's the case.


Nothing that I have seen, would think it's too late to make a change now. So what happens, NYers need to decide if this is worth quarantining for 14 days when they get back or get a COVID test to clear themselves?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/22/20 03:04 PM
NY ers can stay in Pennsylvania
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/27/20 03:32 AM
2023 turtles still around ? Thats the oldest team in the program is the director setting them up ?? He has a-lot of juice hahhahah.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/27/20 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just my 2 cents as a 2022 parent in recruitment...

The Fall 2020 film for a 2023 recruit will not matter. College coaches won’t care about this film since it’ll be a year old once you enter recruitment. The coaches will go off of summer 2020 Under Armour Underclass attendees, their future camp/clinic attendees once the dead period is lifted and top club rosters to build their initial 2023 lists. And of course watching them play live whenever that will be able to occur again. For the 2022 class they did build these initial lists when they watched them live during the Fall of 2019 but these lists changed significantly by the time Sept came. They don’t ever look back at this old Fall film a year later. And who even knows what the recruit landscape will look like Sept 2021 if the current dead period continues into winter 2021 and if the spring 21 college season is altered. They will grant another year to current College players and even current 21 & 22 commits will be competing for spots and scholarship money. It’s been a very unusual recruiting season for the 22’s and I can’t imagine how it will be like for the 23’s. The biggest determining factor for the 2022 class commits has been the relationship your club recruiting Director or high school coach has with the individual college coaches. And of course where you stand with your club recruiting director or high school coach. Choose your club and high school very carefully.

Don't disagree except for narrowing it down to UA. I think coaches are moving away from the event and moving towards Main Stage and Juniors Open. These events from 2020 had a massive impact for big time recruits in the 2022 class. I think these events in 2021 will be big for 2023.

Word is that coaches are really still focusing on 2021's. Then they still need to get to the bulk of the 2022's. Late summer and Fall 2021 will be key for 2023, not much until then. This virus has not been kind to these 3 recruiting classes.

We're going to the Jersey NXT recruiting event. Is it a waste of time?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/27/20 05:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just my 2 cents as a 2022 parent in recruitment...

The Fall 2020 film for a 2023 recruit will not matter. College coaches won’t care about this film since it’ll be a year old once you enter recruitment. The coaches will go off of summer 2020 Under Armour Underclass attendees, their future camp/clinic attendees once the dead period is lifted and top club rosters to build their initial 2023 lists. And of course watching them play live whenever that will be able to occur again. For the 2022 class they did build these initial lists when they watched them live during the Fall of 2019 but these lists changed significantly by the time Sept came. They don’t ever look back at this old Fall film a year later. And who even knows what the recruit landscape will look like Sept 2021 if the current dead period continues into winter 2021 and if the spring 21 college season is altered. They will grant another year to current College players and even current 21 & 22 commits will be competing for spots and scholarship money. It’s been a very unusual recruiting season for the 22’s and I can’t imagine how it will be like for the 23’s. The biggest determining factor for the 2022 class commits has been the relationship your club recruiting Director or high school coach has with the individual college coaches. And of course where you stand with your club recruiting director or high school coach. Choose your club and high school very carefully.

Don't disagree except for narrowing it down to UA. I think coaches are moving away from the event and moving towards Main Stage and Juniors Open. These events from 2020 had a massive impact for big time recruits in the 2022 class. I think these events in 2021 will be big for 2023.

Word is that coaches are really still focusing on 2021's. Then they still need to get to the bulk of the 2022's. Late summer and Fall 2021 will be key for 2023, not much until then. This virus has not been kind to these 3 recruiting classes.

We're going to the Jersey NXT recruiting event. Is it a waste of time?



It depends on what is a waste of time to you. No coaches watching. Playing for the film. Like the above post. They are still filling out the 2021 spots and 2022.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/27/20 06:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just my 2 cents as a 2022 parent in recruitment...

The Fall 2020 film for a 2023 recruit will not matter. College coaches won’t care about this film since it’ll be a year old once you enter recruitment. The coaches will go off of summer 2020 Under Armour Underclass attendees, their future camp/clinic attendees once the dead period is lifted and top club rosters to build their initial 2023 lists. And of course watching them play live whenever that will be able to occur again. For the 2022 class they did build these initial lists when they watched them live during the Fall of 2019 but these lists changed significantly by the time Sept came. They don’t ever look back at this old Fall film a year later. And who even knows what the recruit landscape will look like Sept 2021 if the current dead period continues into winter 2021 and if the spring 21 college season is altered. They will grant another year to current College players and even current 21 & 22 commits will be competing for spots and scholarship money. It’s been a very unusual recruiting season for the 22’s and I can’t imagine how it will be like for the 23’s. The biggest determining factor for the 2022 class commits has been the relationship your club recruiting Director or high school coach has with the individual college coaches. And of course where you stand with your club recruiting director or high school coach. Choose your club and high school very carefully.

Don't disagree except for narrowing it down to UA. I think coaches are moving away from the event and moving towards Main Stage and Juniors Open. These events from 2020 had a massive impact for big time recruits in the 2022 class. I think these events in 2021 will be big for 2023.

Word is that coaches are really still focusing on 2021's. Then they still need to get to the bulk of the 2022's. Late summer and Fall 2021 will be key for 2023, not much until then. This virus has not been kind to these 3 recruiting classes.

We're going to the Jersey NXT recruiting event. Is it a waste of time?



It depends on what is a waste of time to you. No coaches watching. Playing for the film. Like the above post. They are still filling out the 2021 spots and 2022.

Total waste of money and time. Most teams are playing each other locally and filming the event for their kids recruiting sites. What club is going to NXT?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/29/20 07:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just my 2 cents as a 2022 parent in recruitment...

The Fall 2020 film for a 2023 recruit will not matter. College coaches won’t care about this film since it’ll be a year old once you enter recruitment. The coaches will go off of summer 2020 Under Armour Underclass attendees, their future camp/clinic attendees once the dead period is lifted and top club rosters to build their initial 2023 lists. And of course watching them play live whenever that will be able to occur again. For the 2022 class they did build these initial lists when they watched them live during the Fall of 2019 but these lists changed significantly by the time Sept came. They don’t ever look back at this old Fall film a year later. And who even knows what the recruit landscape will look like Sept 2021 if the current dead period continues into winter 2021 and if the spring 21 college season is altered. They will grant another year to current College players and even current 21 & 22 commits will be competing for spots and scholarship money. It’s been a very unusual recruiting season for the 22’s and I can’t imagine how it will be like for the 23’s. The biggest determining factor for the 2022 class commits has been the relationship your club recruiting Director or high school coach has with the individual college coaches. And of course where you stand with your club recruiting director or high school coach. Choose your club and high school very carefully.

Don't disagree except for narrowing it down to UA. I think coaches are moving away from the event and moving towards Main Stage and Juniors Open. These events from 2020 had a massive impact for big time recruits in the 2022 class. I think these events in 2021 will be big for 2023.

Word is that coaches are really still focusing on 2021's. Then they still need to get to the bulk of the 2022's. Late summer and Fall 2021 will be key for 2023, not much until then. This virus has not been kind to these 3 recruiting classes.

We're going to the Jersey NXT recruiting event. Is it a waste of time?



It depends on what is a waste of time to you. No coaches watching. Playing for the film. Like the above post. They are still filling out the 2021 spots and 2022.

Total waste of money and time. Most teams are playing each other locally and filming the event for their kids recruiting sites. What club is going to NXT?
Turtles
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/31/20 04:39 PM
Are the Turtles still up and running, are they worth looking into? Son plays LSM, didn't play travel last year, but plays on an average high school team. Don't see them listed on tourney machine.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 10/31/20 05:32 PM
Perfect set up for the turtle basher. Here we go let the childish bashing begin
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/01/20 03:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are the Turtles still up and running, are they worth looking into? Son plays LSM, didn't play travel last year, but plays on an average high school team. Don't see them listed on tourney machine.

How about look on there website and email them . Simple .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/01/20 09:49 PM
What showcase was this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/01/20 10:30 PM
Now do you find individual showcases and is there any coming up?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/02/20 12:00 PM
Saw S2S played in Md. Is playing 3 games considered passing through in course if travel? Do they need to quarantine? Nice win vs Crabs btw.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/02/20 01:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw S2S played in Md. Is playing 3 games considered passing through in course if travel? Do they need to quarantine? Nice win vs Crabs btw.
Covid is a witch and can't survive in the rain. So they are good!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/02/20 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw S2S played in Md. Is playing 3 games considered passing through in course if travel? Do they need to quarantine? Nice win vs Crabs btw.

Lacrosse tournaments are not considered passing through, but you already knew that.

I wouldn't put too much into a 1 goal victory in fall ball. Lots of teams haven't practiced much and many players are busy with football.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/02/20 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are the Turtles still up and running, are they worth looking into? Son plays LSM, didn't play travel last year, but plays on an average high school team. Don't see them listed on tourney machine.
Call them for your son. I'm sure they can use him. I don't think they've beaten any A teams from LI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/02/20 03:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw S2S played in Md. Is playing 3 games considered passing through in course if travel? Do they need to quarantine? Nice win vs Crabs btw.


Even the Governors imposed the quarantine requirements are admitting no one is really following them. It's just so they can say they are "doing something".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/02/20 04:05 PM
NY teams were in MD for less than 24 hours- It was a 1 day tourney.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Saw S2S played in Md. Is playing 3 games considered passing through in course if travel? Do they need to quarantine? Nice win vs Crabs btw.


Even the Governors imposed the quarantine requirements are admitting no one is really following them. It's just so they can say they are "doing something".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/02/20 10:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are the Turtles still up and running, are they worth looking into? Son plays LSM, didn't play travel last year, but plays on an average high school team. Don't see them listed on tourney machine.
Call them for your son. I'm sure they can use him. I don't think they've beaten any A teams from LI.

I did, the director said they are in need of a big LSM. Have a private tryout coming up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/02/20 11:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are the Turtles still up and running, are they worth looking into? Son plays LSM, didn't play travel last year, but plays on an average high school team. Don't see them listed on tourney machine.
Call them for your son. I'm sure they can use him. I don't think they've beaten any A teams from LI.

I did, the director said they are in need of a big LSM. Have a private tryout coming up.
Knew this guy would post something.... LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/03/20 02:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now do you find individual showcases and is there any coming up?

on hold because of covid
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/05/20 01:01 AM
Yeah, and then S to S got destroyed the last game Dad! B+ team, will never be the Bandits no matter how much money the parents have!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/05/20 04:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are the Turtles still up and running, are they worth looking into? Son plays LSM, didn't play travel last year, but plays on an average high school team. Don't see them listed on tourney machine.

How about look on there website and email them . Simple .

Almost as simple as spelling "their" correctly
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/05/20 09:32 PM
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/06/20 02:17 PM
Nothing elite about igloo
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/06/20 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.

Yes. Igloo is in it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/06/20 04:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.

Nope just igloo - guest players not able to show up
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/06/20 04:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.

Nope just igloo - guest players not able to show up

they just changed there name so it doesn't effect there ranking as #3.
plus the no parents allowed is even better. its a public park, how can they keep people out?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/06/20 04:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.

Nope just igloo - guest players not able to show up

they just changed there name so it doesn't effect there ranking as #3.
plus the no parents allowed is even better. its a public park, how can they keep people out?

What teams are playing in the 10th grade division?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/06/20 10:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.

Nope just igloo - guest players not able to show up

While I realize Igloo is not in Connecticut, Connecticut just listed Lacrosse as a High risk sport. Just received email from my sons coach that after this weekend the rest of fall is cancelled for his team. The "you know what" is about to hit the fan. My concern level for a real spring just elevated a bit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/07/20 01:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.

Nope just igloo - guest players not able to show up

While I realize Igloo is not in Connecticut, Connecticut just listed Lacrosse as a High risk sport. Just received email from my sons coach that after this weekend the rest of fall is cancelled for his team. The "you know what" is about to hit the fan. My concern level for a real spring just elevated a bit.

Don’t worry. Once biden takes over COVID will be gone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/07/20 04:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.

Nope just igloo - guest players not able to show up

While I realize Igloo is not in Connecticut, Connecticut just listed Lacrosse as a High risk sport. Just received email from my sons coach that after this weekend the rest of fall is cancelled for his team. The "you know what" is about to hit the fan. My concern level for a real spring just elevated a bit.

Don’t worry. Once biden takes over COVID will be gone.

Good. A new president and covid gone. great news!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/08/20 03:17 PM
What are you talking about? Trump already said many times that COVID-19 did NOT exist.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/08/20 03:42 PM
Igloo mixed nutz.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/09/20 04:02 AM
Where has the Turtles been ? They use to get alot of talk on here . They still exist?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/09/20 03:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where has the Turtles been ? They use to get alot of talk on here . They still exist?

Who? Distant memory of the team from many years ago. They're trying to ride on the coat tails of yesteryear.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/09/20 10:13 PM
Guy just answered his own question
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/10/20 02:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Guy just answered his own question

No i didnt Guy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/10/20 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.

Nope just igloo - guest players not able to show up

they just changed there name so it doesn't effect there ranking as #3.
plus the no parents allowed is even better. its a public park, how can they keep people out?

With tourneys being cancelled and travel getting harder can someone explain to me why we cant have (and never have had) a local tourney with Express LI (#18), 91 (#1), PT (#9), 2Way (#20), Eclipse (#16), Preds, Igloo (#3), Shore2Shore (#7), possibly even BBL (#21), Leading Edge or a cpl of other teams from NJ or even Upstate Sweetlax, Orange Crush. Call it the Tristate championships or something. I imagine its only bc PT or Express don't want to lose and then the other team has "bragging" rights. BTW, before someone says I am missing a great team or have rankings screwed up. I went by US Club Lax rankings.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/10/20 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.

Nope just igloo - guest players not able to show up

they just changed there name so it doesn't effect there ranking as #3.
plus the no parents allowed is even better. its a public park, how can they keep people out?

With tourneys being cancelled and travel getting harder can someone explain to me why we cant have (and never have had) a local tourney with Express LI (#18), 91 (#1), PT (#9), 2Way (#20), Eclipse (#16), Preds, Igloo (#3), Shore2Shore (#7), possibly even BBL (#21), Leading Edge or a cpl of other teams from NJ or even Upstate Sweetlax, Orange Crush. Call it the Tristate championships or something. I imagine its only bc PT or Express don't want to lose and then the other team has "bragging" rights. BTW, before someone says I am missing a great team or have rankings screwed up. I went by US Club Lax rankings.

Boring post
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/10/20 07:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.

Nope just igloo - guest players not able to show up

they just changed there name so it doesn't effect there ranking as #3.
plus the no parents allowed is even better. its a public park, how can they keep people out?

With tourneys being cancelled and travel getting harder can someone explain to me why we cant have (and never have had) a local tourney with Express LI (#18), 91 (#1), PT (#9), 2Way (#20), Eclipse (#16), Preds, Igloo (#3), Shore2Shore (#7), possibly even BBL (#21), Leading Edge or a cpl of other teams from NJ or even Upstate Sweetlax, Orange Crush. Call it the Tristate championships or something. I imagine its only bc PT or Express don't want to lose and then the other team has "bragging" rights. BTW, before someone says I am missing a great team or have rankings screwed up. I went by US Club Lax rankings.

Boring post
wouldn't that be the NLF event in NJ in a couple of weeks?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/10/20 08:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the LI elite Igloo tournament still on this weekend, heard teams are dropping out.

Nope just igloo - guest players not able to show up

they just changed there name so it doesn't effect there ranking as #3.
plus the no parents allowed is even better. its a public park, how can they keep people out?

With tourneys being cancelled and travel getting harder can someone explain to me why we cant have (and never have had) a local tourney with Express LI (#18), 91 (#1), PT (#9), 2Way (#20), Eclipse (#16), Preds, Igloo (#3), Shore2Shore (#7), possibly even BBL (#21), Leading Edge or a cpl of other teams from NJ or even Upstate Sweetlax, Orange Crush. Call it the Tristate championships or something. I imagine its only bc PT or Express don't want to lose and then the other team has "bragging" rights. BTW, before someone says I am missing a great team or have rankings screwed up. I went by US Club Lax rankings.

Boring post

HUH, maybe its my failure to note or understand sarcasm?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/12/20 05:21 PM
Is the NXT in NJ still going on this weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/12/20 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the NXT in NJ still going on this weekend.

Email them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/12/20 08:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the NXT in NJ still going on this weekend.

Don't know about this weekend but the event in Philly in 2 weeks is still on as of today.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/13/20 02:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the NXT in NJ still going on this weekend.

Don't know about this weekend but the event in Philly in 2 weeks is still on as of today.
Is that the Dominion tournament? I hear there's a lot of late entries looking to steal a win.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/17/20 02:02 PM
What match ups do you like in Jersey this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/17/20 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What match ups do you like in Jersey this weekend?
I've heard a lot about Twenty4 with their amazing coaching. Can't wait to see how developed the players will be.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/17/20 06:46 PM
cancelled
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/17/20 07:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
cancelled
Democrat
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/17/20 08:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What match ups do you like in Jersey this weekend?
I've heard a lot about Twenty4 with their amazing coaching. Can't wait to see how developed the players will be.


They are absolutely terrible
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/17/20 08:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is the NXT in NJ still going on this weekend.

Don't know about this weekend but the event in Philly in 2 weeks is still on as of today.

Sorry folks PA just came down new quarantine restrictions . Pa done need to be tested once you get there within 48 hours if not quarantine for two weeks . New yorkers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/17/20 10:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What match ups do you like in Jersey this weekend?
I've heard a lot about Twenty4 with their amazing coaching. Can't wait to see how developed the players will be.


They are absolutely terrible

They are exactly where they belong. Parent looking for greener pastures...Now blame yourself, not the coach who coached your kid the prior season, or the other kid that once played on the opposite side of your son. Our team is better off now, without certain parent complaining to the coach, his kid doesn't touch the ball enough. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/17/20 11:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What match ups do you like in Jersey this weekend?
I've heard a lot about Twenty4 with their amazing coaching. Can't wait to see how developed the players will be.


They are absolutely terrible

They are exactly where they belong. Parent looking for greener pastures...Now blame yourself, not the coach who coached your kid the prior season, or the other kid that once played on the opposite side of your son. Our team is better off now, without certain parent complaining to the coach, his kid doesn't touch the ball enough. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya!

Too bad the teams aren't matched up together. You are better off playing B teams. You might actually win a game.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What match ups do you like in Jersey this weekend?
I've heard a lot about Twenty4 with their amazing coaching. Can't wait to see how developed the players will be.


They are absolutely terrible

They are exactly where they belong. Parent looking for greener pastures...Now blame yourself, not the coach who coached your kid the prior season, or the other kid that once played on the opposite side of your son. Our team is better off now, without certain parent complaining to the coach, his kid doesn't touch the ball enough. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya!

Too bad the teams aren't matched up together. You are better off playing B teams. You might actually win a game.

We played them last weekend, it was a very difficult afternoon for them, from top to bottom. It didn't look as though the coach was close to having a cohesive group of kids out on the field. At this stage of the game, bad teams will remain at the bottom, middle of the road teams will be just that, and the the top tier teams will remain on top.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/18/20 02:51 AM
This grade is getting hosed the worst. Likely missing 2 seasons of high school lax. Need that vax ASAP.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/18/20 08:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This grade is getting hosed the worst. Likely missing 2 seasons of high school lax. Need that vax ASAP.
2022’s also
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/18/20 07:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This grade is getting hosed the worst. Likely missing 2 seasons of high school lax. Need that vax ASAP.
Everyone else is missing lax also. No college coaches are looking at this grade anyway.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/18/20 09:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This grade is getting hosed the worst. Likely missing 2 seasons of high school lax. Need that vax ASAP.
Everyone else is missing lax also. No college coaches are looking at this grade anyway.


Lacrosse scholarships will be thing of the past . Non revenue sports . Football and b-ball carry all other sports and colleges not making money like they use too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/19/20 03:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This grade is getting hosed the worst. Likely missing 2 seasons of high school lax. Need that vax ASAP.
Everyone else is missing lax also. No college coaches are looking at this grade anyway.

Not even talking about recruiting. High school lax some of the best years
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/19/20 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What match ups do you like in Jersey this weekend?
I've heard a lot about Twenty4 with their amazing coaching. Can't wait to see how developed the players will be.


They are absolutely terrible

They are exactly where they belong. Parent looking for greener pastures...Now blame yourself, not the coach who coached your kid the prior season, or the other kid that once played on the opposite side of your son. Our team is better off now, without certain parent complaining to the coach, his kid doesn't touch the ball enough. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya!
Much better coaching at Twenty4. Fact.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/19/20 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What match ups do you like in Jersey this weekend?
I've heard a lot about Twenty4 with their amazing coaching. Can't wait to see how developed the players will be.


They are absolutely terrible

They are exactly where they belong. Parent looking for greener pastures...Now blame yourself, not the coach who coached your kid the prior season, or the other kid that once played on the opposite side of your son. Our team is better off now, without certain parent complaining to the coach, his kid doesn't touch the ball enough. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya!
Much better coaching at Twenty4. Fact.
Glorified PAL team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/19/20 06:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This grade is getting hosed the worst. Likely missing 2 seasons of high school lax. Need that vax ASAP.
Everyone else is missing lax also. No college coaches are looking at this grade anyway.


Lacrosse scholarships will be thing of the past . Non revenue sports . Football and b-ball carry all other sports and colleges not making money like they use too.

Parents detest seeing post like these !!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/19/20 10:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What match ups do you like in Jersey this weekend?
I've heard a lot about Twenty4 with their amazing coaching. Can't wait to see how developed the players will be.


They are absolutely terrible

They are exactly where they belong. Parent looking for greener pastures...Now blame yourself, not the coach who coached your kid the prior season, or the other kid that once played on the opposite side of your son. Our team is better off now, without certain parent complaining to the coach, his kid doesn't touch the ball enough. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya!
Much better coaching at Twenty4. Fact.

One less parent chewing on our coaches ear about his son not getting enough touches. Fact
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/23/20 03:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are exactly where they belong. Parent looking for greener pastures...Now blame yourself, not the coach who coached your kid the prior season, or the other kid that once played on the opposite side of your son. Our team is better off now, without certain parent complaining to the coach, his kid doesn't touch the ball enough. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya!
Much better coaching at Twenty4. Fact.

One less parent chewing on our coaches ear about his son not getting enough touches. Fact[/quote]

Yeah one less parent chewing, but replaced with 22’s. Please explain to me how that helps?? Yes, exactly. No response. What a joke.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021 - 11/23/20 12:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They are exactly where they belong. Parent looking for greener pastures...Now blame yourself, not the coach who coached your kid the prior season, or the other kid that once played on the opposite side of your son. Our team is better off now, without certain parent complaining to the coach, his kid doesn't touch the ball enough. See ya, wouldn't want to be ya!
Much better coaching at Twenty4. Fact.

One less parent chewing on our coaches ear about his son not getting enough touches. Fact

Yeah one less parent chewing, but replaced with 22’s. Please explain to me how that helps?? Yes, exactly. No response. What a joke.[/quote]

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