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Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018

Posted By: TM@BOTC

Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 08/01/17 01:01 PM

It's the start of the Fall 2017/Summer 2018 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/05/17 02:23 PM

Come on 2020 Parents where are you?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/05/17 11:32 PM

Gag order!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 12:22 PM

I'm not one to post on this site, especially about another kid, but the things you guys were saying about the St.Ants kid is absolute crap. That kid is great! She was at Elite 80 yesterday and she looked good! She got recognition from many coaches and she seems like a nice girl, as I saw her smiling and joking around with my kid and the other players. Stop making this kid seem like something she is not... Very quick player and a great shooter. If I was a coach that would be a commit right on the spot.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not one to post on this site, especially about another kid, but the things you guys were saying about the St.Ants kid is absolute crap. That kid is great! She was at Elite 80 yesterday and she looked good! She got recognition from many coaches and she seems like a nice girl, as I saw her smiling and joking around with my kid and the other players. Stop making this kid seem like something she is not... Very quick player and a great shooter. If I was a coach that would be a commit right on the spot.

Right. Looks like kid already has a good relationship with the coaches. Never gives any kid another chance to shine... I’m not hating but it’s a good thing the kid and her parents are humble and don’t look for attention.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 03:36 PM

While all the other 2020 kids were not there. Nobody in that age group that is decent Lax player was not on LI yesterday
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 05:39 PM

Dad, is that you?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
While all the other 2020 kids were not there. Nobody in that age group that is decent Lax player was not on LI yesterday


I agree. The timing of the LI Elite 80 makes no sense. Why have this in the middle of one of the biggest Fall Tournament Weekend? All the top teams were at one of the tournaments in Maryland this weekend. So the talent level had to be pretty low at this event.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While all the other 2020 kids were not there. Nobody in that age group that is decent Lax player was not on LI yesterday


I agree. The timing of the LI Elite 80 makes no sense. Why have this in the middle of one of the biggest Fall Tournament Weekend? All the top teams were at one of the tournaments in Maryland this weekend. So the talent level had to be pretty low at this event.


It was a great event, Well organized and put together, with 14 top D-1 Head Coaches right here on Long Island giving hands on personal attention. All the girls had a wonderful time and so did the coaches. whether the talent was high/low it was a much better option staying home with access to all those coaches rather than being in Maryland playing for no coaches as they were all here.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While all the other 2020 kids were not there. Nobody in that age group that is decent Lax player was not on LI yesterday


I agree. The timing of the LI Elite 80 makes no sense. Why have this in the middle of one of the biggest Fall Tournament Weekend? All the top teams were at one of the tournaments in Maryland this weekend. So the talent level had to be pretty low at this event.


Silly Goose, bet you're kicking yourself. You missed out on all those coaches and instead played for Asst's. I'm guessing your kid is really so talented, that you would rather they play for Asst's than actual head coaches. Trying to be insulting but in facet you both sound so stupid.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 08:47 PM

What coaches were at this event?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
What coaches were at this event?


Maryland – Cathy Reese
Hopkins – Janine Tucker
Stony Brook – Joe Spallina
Syracuse – Gary Gait
Oregon – Katrina Dowd
Yale – Erica Lagrow
Georgetown – Ricky Fried
Florida – Amanda O’Leary
Notre Dame – Christine Halfpenny
Stanford – Amy Bokker
Penn State – Missy Doherty
Loyola – Jen Adams
Dartmouth – Danielle Spencer
Hofstra – Shannon Smith
UPENN – Karin Brower Corbett

and YES they all were in attendance.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 09:22 PM

LOL $595! good value on top of your club fees....The asst coaches(divide and conquer) make recommendations and get a lot of the initial looks...you think its one look and done? wake up ..they watch most kids 3, 4, and sometimes 5 times before the call is set up...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While all the other 2020 kids were not there. Nobody in that age group that is decent Lax player was not on LI yesterday


I agree. The timing of the LI Elite 80 makes no sense. Why have this in the middle of one of the biggest Fall Tournament Weekend? All the top teams were at one of the tournaments in Maryland this weekend. So the talent level had to be pretty low at this event.


Silly Goose, bet you're kicking yourself. You missed out on all those coaches and instead played for Asst's. I'm guessing your kid is really so talented, that you would rather they play for Asst's than actual head coaches. Trying to be insulting but in facet you both sound so stupid.


LOL. Who do you think does the actual recruiting for these schools? You paid a bunch of money for a clinic. Plus Igloo paid those coaches a bunch of money to be there. Money Grab if there ever was one.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What coaches were at this event?


Maryland – Cathy Reese
Hopkins – Janine Tucker
Stony Brook – Joe Spallina
Syracuse – Gary Gait
Oregon – Katrina Dowd
Yale – Erica Lagrow
Georgetown – Ricky Fried
Florida – Amanda O’Leary
Notre Dame – Christine Halfpenny
Stanford – Amy Bokker
Penn State – Missy Doherty
Loyola – Jen Adams
Dartmouth – Danielle Spencer
Hofstra – Shannon Smith
UPENN – Karin Brower Corbett

and YES they all were in attendance.
when was this event? Sounds like a great showcase
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What coaches were at this event?


Maryland – Cathy Reese
Hopkins – Janine Tucker
Stony Brook – Joe Spallina
Syracuse – Gary Gait
Oregon – Katrina Dowd
Yale – Erica Lagrow
Georgetown – Ricky Fried
Florida – Amanda O’Leary
Notre Dame – Christine Halfpenny
Stanford – Amy Bokker
Penn State – Missy Doherty
Loyola – Jen Adams
Dartmouth – Danielle Spencer
Hofstra – Shannon Smith
UPENN – Karin Brower Corbett

and YES they all were in attendance.
Shannon smith was in Maryland
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While all the other 2020 kids were not there. Nobody in that age group that is decent Lax player was not on LI yesterday


I agree. The timing of the LI Elite 80 makes no sense. Why have this in the middle of one of the biggest Fall Tournament Weekend? All the top teams were at one of the tournaments in Maryland this weekend. So the talent level had to be pretty low at this event.


Silly Goose, bet you're kicking yourself. You missed out on all those coaches and instead played for Asst's. I'm guessing your kid is really so talented, that you would rather they play for Asst's than actual head coaches. Trying to be insulting but in facet you both sound so stupid.


LOL. Who do you think does the actual recruiting for these schools? You paid a bunch of money for a clinic. Plus Igloo paid those coaches a bunch of money to be there. Money Grab if there ever was one.


And you paid tolls, hotel, tourney fee, and meals for your kid to play for NO ONE. I'm done...no point in arguing with fools, you win.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While all the other 2020 kids were not there. Nobody in that age group that is decent Lax player was not on LI yesterday


I agree. The timing of the LI Elite 80 makes no sense. Why have this in the middle of one of the biggest Fall Tournament Weekend? All the top teams were at one of the tournaments in Maryland this weekend. So the talent level had to be pretty low at this event.


Silly Goose, bet you're kicking yourself. You missed out on all those coaches and instead played for Asst's. I'm guessing your kid is really so talented, that you would rather they play for Asst's than actual head coaches. Trying to be insulting but in facet you both sound so stupid.


LOL. Who do you think does the actual recruiting for these schools? You paid a bunch of money for a clinic. Plus Igloo paid those coaches a bunch of money to be there. Money Grab if there ever was one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
LOL $595! good value on top of your club fees....The asst coaches(divide and conquer) make recommendations and get a lot of the initial looks...you think its one look and done? wake up ..they watch most kids 3, 4, and sometimes 5 times before the call is set up...


Yawn!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 10:38 PM

Shannon Smith was 99.9999% at this event.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 10:57 PM

This event was everything it was advertised to be and more. every coach listed was there! and it wasn't a showcase, these coaches were on the fields coaching every moment. it was costly but not when you look at what you got, instruction from the top coaches in the country.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
While all the other 2020 kids were not there. Nobody in that age group that is decent Lax player was not on LI yesterday


I agree. The timing of the LI Elite 80 makes no sense. Why have this in the middle of one of the biggest Fall Tournament Weekend? All the top teams were at one of the tournaments in Maryland this weekend. So the talent level had to be pretty low at this event.


Silly Goose, bet you're kicking yourself. You missed out on all those coaches and instead played for Asst's. I'm guessing your kid is really so talented, that you would rather they play for Asst's than actual head coaches. Trying to be insulting but in facet you both sound so stupid.


LOL. Who do you think does the actual recruiting for these schools? You paid a bunch of money for a clinic. Plus Igloo paid those coaches a bunch of money to be there. Money Grab if there ever was one.


And you paid tolls, hotel, tourney fee, and meals for your kid to play for NO ONE. I'm done...no point in arguing with fools, you win.


Ok. Those programs have tons of kids on their roster from the B team clubs who weren't playing in Maryland this weekend and were able to attend. If only we could have a list of girls that were there and look back in 3 years and see that this was all just a waste of time and money. Hate to break it to you, but there were a TON of coaches at the Maryland events that were there to watch the actual top players in each class. So you go ahead and think that just because one of those coaches saw your daughter who couldn't even make the YJ C team that she's getting that big scholarship...Meanwhile the talent was a few hours south with hundreds of coaches that were there to actually find players for their programs.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/06/17 11:24 PM

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Ok. Those programs have tons of kids on their roster from the B team clubs who weren't playing in Maryland this weekend and were able to attend. If only we could have a list of girls that were there and look back in 3 years and see that this was all just a waste of time and money. Hate to break it to you, but there were a TON of coaches at the Maryland events that were there to watch the actual top players in each class. So you go ahead and think that just because one of those coaches saw your daughter who couldn't even make the YJ C team that she's getting that big scholarship...Meanwhile the talent was a few hours south with hundreds of coaches that were there to actually find players for their programs.


You're stupid!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What coaches were at this event?


Maryland – Cathy Reese
Hopkins – Janine Tucker
Stony Brook – Joe Spallina
Syracuse – Gary Gait
Oregon – Katrina Dowd
Yale – Erica Lagrow
Georgetown – Ricky Fried
Florida – Amanda O’Leary
Notre Dame – Christine Halfpenny
Stanford – Amy Bokker
Penn State – Missy Doherty
Loyola – Jen Adams
Dartmouth – Danielle Spencer
Hofstra – Shannon Smith
UPENN – Karin Brower Corbett

and YES they all were in attendance.



And NO, none of the top players were in attendance.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
This event was everything it was advertised to be and more. every coach listed was there! and it wasn't a showcase, these coaches were on the fields coaching every moment. it was costly but not when you look at what you got, instruction from the top coaches in the country.


You got a CLINIC for $600! Thats what you got. If you think that is a deal I have a bridge I am selling for 50% off but you must act NOW!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 01:20 AM

There were many coaches in Maryland from all divisions. Who care what others choose to spend their money on. Grow up
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This event was everything it was advertised to be and more. every coach listed was there! and it wasn't a showcase, these coaches were on the fields coaching every moment. it was costly but not when you look at what you got, instruction from the top coaches in the country.


You got a CLINIC for $600! Thats what you got. If you think that is a deal I have a bridge I am selling for 50% off but you must act NOW!


Reading comp might not be your thing, I said it was costly, not a deal. we all spend a ton more than that on tourneys with no coaching from the best! so I'll spend my money the way I want to and I thought this was well worth it and so did my daughter
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This event was everything it was advertised to be and more. every coach listed was there! and it wasn't a showcase, these coaches were on the fields coaching every moment. it was costly but not when you look at what you got, instruction from the top coaches in the country.


You got a CLINIC for $600! Thats what you got. If you think that is a deal I have a bridge I am selling for 50% off but you must act NOW!


Reading comp might not be your thing, I said it was costly, not a deal. we all spend a ton more than that on tourneys with no coaching from the best! so I'll spend my money the way I want to and I thought this was well worth it and so did my daughter


And you get to say she is one of the tops 80 players in the country that wasn’t playing with the other top 400 kids in the country in Maryland.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 02:25 AM

Not at all. I don't say anything. You bunch of empty barrels are the ones who need other people's approval.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This event was everything it was advertised to be and more. every coach listed was there! and it wasn't a showcase, these coaches were on the fields coaching every moment. it was costly but not when you look at what you got, instruction from the top coaches in the country.


You got a CLINIC for $600! Thats what you got. If you think that is a deal I have a bridge I am selling for 50% off but you must act NOW!


Reading comp might not be your thing, I said it was costly, not a deal. we all spend a ton more than that on tourneys with no coaching from the best! so I'll spend my money the way I want to and I thought this was well worth it and so did my daughter


And you get to say she is one of the tops 80 players in the country that wasn’t playing with the other top 400 kids in the country in Maryland.



My daughter was there as well. We will definitely be doing it again next year. We left Maryland early to attend and it was so worth it. The coaches were up close and very hands on, much better than I anticipated. Let these people mouthing off on something they weren't involved in, speculate negatively all they want, we don't want them in on it anyway.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 12:43 PM

Only way any of kids at igloo thing on Sunday get in to any of those schools is academically. Never for Lacrosse
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This event was everything it was advertised to be and more. every coach listed was there! and it wasn't a showcase, these coaches were on the fields coaching every moment. it was costly but not when you look at what you got, instruction from the top coaches in the country.


You got a CLINIC for $600! Thats what you got. If you think that is a deal I have a bridge I am selling for 50% off but you must act NOW!


Reading comp might not be your thing, I said it was costly, not a deal. we all spend a ton more than that on tourneys with no coaching from the best! so I'll spend my money the way I want to and I thought this was well worth it and so did my daughter


And you get to say she is one of the tops 80 players in the country that wasn’t playing with the other top 400 kids in the country in Maryland.



My daughter was there as well. We will definitely be doing it again next year. We left Maryland early to attend and it was so worth it. The coaches were up close and very hands on, much better than I anticipated. Let these people mouthing off on something they weren't involved in, speculate negatively all they want, we don't want them in on it anyway.


You do realize these are money grabs? have you noticed how many of these venues are out there now after the recruiting rule change? If your kid plays for a good club team they will find her... and btw the assistants were in Maryland...if they like your kid's play they will put you on a watch list....so keep spending the extra $ the head coaches are thanking you at Christmas time!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 04:11 PM

Blah, Blah, Blah...Why do you care so much what others do with their money? Money grab or not, it's MY money and I decide what I do with it. Just as you chose to waste YOURS in Maryland or wherever you were this weekend. I chose to spend MINE where I chose....Club lacrosse is the ultimate money grab and waste, and we all still pay it, but you don't hear me lecturing you about it. So just shut up ad go away! Sorry you couldn't pull the funds together to send your kid. We get it, your kid wasn't there so you're annoyed and can't let it go. 2 days of talking about this is tiring.. Let's talk about all the coaches that saw your kid in this weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 04:37 PM

And let me guess! The club programs are not, thanking you @ Christmas time lol. Oh I get it my little Suzy is committed,or maybe not but still pays for tryouts, for the same team they been playing with for over a decade. Oh I get it. My little Suzy is so good she does “NOT” attend anything without the other club girls because the directors told us not too. And this line, all the good girls only play for YJ. Well you should have attended Sunday’s Elite 80 and look at the 3 girls that stood out, and the coaches were going crazy for. All great shooters, field awareness, stick work, and one who would run circles around most kids on YJ. If they are not committed as of yet! They diffently left a great impression on the coaches in attendance. As some of the coaches gave special attention on field #2 to numbers 7,46, and #54 that kid is something to watch. And my daughters A team TG coach was there, a bit surprising but still an excellent event.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 05:23 PM

I wish I wasted my money at the clinic in LI verses driving to Maryland watching my daughter's YJ team get beat by a Florida team.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wish I wasted my money at the clinic in LI verses driving to Maryland watching my daughter's YJ team get beat by a Florida team.

College coaches don't keep score and or care what the score is. Way too many parents get caught up in wins and loses. It's no wonder kids today are considered the "Entitlement" generation. It's not their fault, it's the parents. Obviously we hope they train hard and play hard for the win. But you can't win them all. Your whining is not helping them. Teach them how to handle losing. Life's going to throw them curve balls and unless you prepare them now, they'll be whiners just like you.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 06:35 PM

beat by the florida team?? the studs got smoked.. funny it is supposed to be a recruiting tournament and YJ had a short bench all weekend.. haaaaaaaaaaa suckers..
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Blah, Blah, Blah...Why do you care so much what others do with their money? Money grab or not, it's MY money and I decide what I do with it. Just as you chose to waste YOURS in Maryland or wherever you were this weekend. I chose to spend MINE where I chose....Club lacrosse is the ultimate money grab and waste, and we all still pay it, but you don't hear me lecturing you about it. So just shut up ad go away! Sorry you couldn't pull the funds together to send your kid. We get it, your kid wasn't there so you're annoyed and can't let it go. 2 days of talking about this is tiring.. Let's talk about all the coaches that saw your kid in this weekend.


Hmm..shes already done ..so it doesn't matter...but once again im sure their all thankful for your generous donation. Christmas came early for them
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
And let me guess! The club programs are not, thanking you @ Christmas time lol. Oh I get it my little Suzy is committed,or maybe not but still pays for tryouts, for the same team they been playing with for over a decade. Oh I get it. My little Suzy is so good she does “NOT” attend anything without the other club girls because the directors told us not too. And this line, all the good girls only play for YJ. Well you should have attended Sunday’s Elite 80 and look at the 3 girls that stood out, and the coaches were going crazy for. All great shooters, field awareness, stick work, and one who would run circles around most kids on YJ. If they are not committed as of yet! They diffently left a great impression on the coaches in attendance. As some of the coaches gave special attention on field #2 to numbers 7,46, and #54 that kid is something to watch. And my daughters A team TG coach was there, a bit surprising but still an excellent event.



TG parent says it all...Could be the rudest, me me ball , parents out there...and Im not from LI..we do spank you every year though..ding ding $595.00 please ..thank you for shopping!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 08:05 PM

Unc
USC
Fl
Yale
MD
JMU
SB
Plus many others were at prime time
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 08:46 PM

And a couple others as well to be fair. But those girls, I apologize in advance if I’m wrong one kid was from YJ, and the other kid was from an Out of town program “Sound Lacrosse” and the very fast and versatile kid I think plays For Saint A’s no club affiliation on the roster. This is a joke right?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 10:06 PM

Left Maryland last weekend to attend Sunday night and well worth it. Prime time and Lax Clash were a waste. Especially Lax Clash, No competition to speak of. Rather have my kid one of 80 in front of 15 head coaches then 1 of several hundred in front of assistants that spend more time on their phone than watching. Although previous poster was correct that many of best players did not attend, a few did shine .Coaches know what they are looking for. Speaking of a Florida Team beating YJ's, a 2020 goalie from Florida was at showcase and was insanely good. good as any I have seen in the class.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/07/17 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This event was everything it was advertised to be and more. every coach listed was there! and it wasn't a showcase, these coaches were on the fields coaching every moment. it was costly but not when you look at what you got, instruction from the top coaches in the country.


You got a CLINIC for $600! Thats what you got. If you think that is a deal I have a bridge I am selling for 50% off but you must act NOW!


Money is not a problem for me. I don't even think twice about it. Im not stressed about a scholarship. My daughter had a great experience.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Left Maryland last weekend to attend Sunday night and well worth it. Prime time and Lax Clash were a waste. Especially Lax Clash, No competition to speak of. Rather have my kid one of 80 in front of 15 head coaches then 1 of several hundred in front of assistants that spend more time on their phone than watching. Although previous poster was correct that many of best players did not attend, a few did shine .Coaches know what they are looking for. Speaking of a Florida Team beating YJ's, a 2020 goalie from Florida was at showcase and was insanely good. good as any I have seen in the class.



Originally Posted by Anonymous
beat by the florida team?? the studs got smoked.. funny it is supposed to be a recruiting tournament and YJ had a short bench all weekend.. haaaaaaaaaaa suckers..


The score wasn't posted?
Posted By: Alwayslaxin

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 02:42 AM

8-2

My daughter told me that Florida Select has a handful is 2021s out there as well.

YJ Blue held to just 2 goals.

Wow
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
And let me guess! The club programs are not, thanking you @ Christmas time lol. Oh I get it my little Suzy is committed,or maybe not but still pays for tryouts, for the same team they been playing with for over a decade. Oh I get it. My little Suzy is so good she does “NOT” attend anything without the other club girls because the directors told us not too. And this line, all the good girls only play for YJ. Well you should have attended Sunday’s Elite 80 and look at the 3 girls that stood out, and the coaches were going crazy for. All great shooters, field awareness, stick work, and one who would run circles around most kids on YJ. If they are not committed as of yet! They diffently left a great impression on the coaches in attendance. As some of the coaches gave special attention on field #2 to numbers 7,46, and #54 that kid is something to watch. And my daughters A team TG coach was there, a bit surprising but still an excellent event.


Of course SS was there, for $5,000 she will also come to your house for three hours
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Left Maryland last weekend to attend Sunday night and well worth it. Prime time and Lax Clash were a waste. Especially Lax Clash, No competition to speak of. Rather have my kid one of 80 in front of 15 head coaches then 1 of several hundred in front of assistants that spend more time on their phone than watching. Although previous poster was correct that many of best players did not attend, a few did shine .Coaches know what they are looking for. Speaking of a Florida Team beating YJ's, a 2020 goalie from Florida was at showcase and was insanely good. good as any I have seen in the class.


You're new to this aren't you? The assistants are looking at the tournament rosters on their phone and taking notes. There are others with tablets if they prefer to carry the extra device. But, there are very few that carry the big binders around in their hands. Those are usually in their backpacks or they just opt not to get one. The coaches that do receive programs/rosters from some teams at fields will usually use those to jot down notes or check to see who is committed because the rosters passed out by the teams are up to date. If you think those assistants that are sitting near you are not paying attention and just texting away to their buddies - you are probably one of those parents spouting off constantly at the refs and trying to coach your kid from the sidelines. We are on our third and last kid in this process/game - the coaches don't need to watch for too long and they also are not concerned about how good your kid is dodging around cones or picking up ground balls at a clinic. They want to see how your kid performs against the Maryland kids or deals with adversity while getting beat by a Maryland team. If your team just rolled over the competition - good, then I hope your daughter won with grace and showed sportsmanship.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And let me guess! The club programs are not, thanking you @ Christmas time lol. Oh I get it my little Suzy is committed,or maybe not but still pays for tryouts, for the same team they been playing with for over a decade. Oh I get it. My little Suzy is so good she does “NOT” attend anything without the other club girls because the directors told us not too. And this line, all the good girls only play for YJ. Well you should have attended Sunday’s Elite 80 and look at the 3 girls that stood out, and the coaches were going crazy for. All great shooters, field awareness, stick work, and one who would run circles around most kids on YJ. If they are not committed as of yet! They diffently left a great impression on the coaches in attendance. As some of the coaches gave special attention on field #2 to numbers 7,46, and #54 that kid is something to watch. And my daughters A team TG coach was there, a bit surprising but still an excellent event.


Of course SS was there, for $5,000 she will also come to your house for three hours
i dont kno why you're singling SS out. They all out the money in their pockets fool
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Left Maryland last weekend to attend Sunday night and well worth it. Prime time and Lax Clash were a waste. Especially Lax Clash, No competition to speak of. Rather have my kid one of 80 in front of 15 head coaches then 1 of several hundred in front of assistants that spend more time on their phone than watching. Although previous poster was correct that many of best players did not attend, a few did shine .Coaches know what they are looking for. Speaking of a Florida Team beating YJ's, a 2020 goalie from Florida was at showcase and was insanely good. good as any I have seen in the class.


You're new to this aren't you? The assistants are looking at the tournament rosters on their phone and taking notes. There are others with tablets if they prefer to carry the extra device. But, there are very few that carry the big binders around in their hands. Those are usually in their backpacks or they just opt not to get one. The coaches that do receive programs/rosters from some teams at fields will usually use those to jot down notes or check to see who is committed because the rosters passed out by the teams are up to date. If you think those assistants that are sitting near you are not paying attention and just texting away to their buddies - you are probably one of those parents spouting off constantly at the refs and trying to coach your kid from the sidelines. We are on our third and last kid in this process/game - the coaches don't need to watch for too long and they also are not concerned about how good your kid is dodging around cones or picking up ground balls at a clinic. They want to see how your kid performs against the Maryland kids or deals with adversity while getting beat by a Maryland team. If your team just rolled over the competition - good, then I hope your daughter won with grace and showed sportsmanship.


The girls,in general, show more Grace and sportsmanship than 90 % of the posters here. Each kid is different each person's process is different. Show some of that Grace and sportsmanship and allow others to do as they see fit without your expert knowledge. If you went to MD this weekend and your kids found it valuable awesome! If you went to the igloo event and your kid found it valuable awesome. To each their own
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
beat by the florida team?? the studs got smoked.. funny it is supposed to be a recruiting tournament and YJ had a short bench all weekend.. haaaaaaaaaaa suckers..


KARMA
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Alwayslaxin
8-2

My daughter told me that Florida Select has a handful is 2021s out there as well.

YJ Blue held to just 2 goals.

Wow


You do realize YJ Blue is the lower team they use for the Fall? We spanked their older Blue team 11-1...I knew right away that wasnt their committed team as i know most of them...So dont go out there boasting it was a scrub team!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Left Maryland last weekend to attend Sunday night and well worth it. Prime time and Lax Clash were a waste. Especially Lax Clash, No competition to speak of. Rather have my kid one of 80 in front of 15 head coaches then 1 of several hundred in front of assistants that spend more time on their phone than watching. Although previous poster was correct that many of best players did not attend, a few did shine .Coaches know what they are looking for. Speaking of a Florida Team beating YJ's, a 2020 goalie from Florida was at showcase and was insanely good. good as any I have seen in the class.


You're new to this aren't you? The assistants are looking at the tournament rosters on their phone and taking notes. There are others with tablets if they prefer to carry the extra device. But, there are very few that carry the big binders around in their hands. Those are usually in their backpacks or they just opt not to get one. The coaches that do receive programs/rosters from some teams at fields will usually use those to jot down notes or check to see who is committed because the rosters passed out by the teams are up to date. If you think those assistants that are sitting near you are not paying attention and just texting away to their buddies - you are probably one of those parents spouting off constantly at the refs and trying to coach your kid from the sidelines. We are on our third and last kid in this process/game - the coaches don't need to watch for too long and they also are not concerned about how good your kid is dodging around cones or picking up ground balls at a clinic. They want to see how your kid performs against the Maryland kids or deals with adversity while getting beat by a Maryland team. If your team just rolled over the competition - good, then I hope your daughter won with grace and showed sportsmanship.


The girls,in general, show more Grace and sportsmanship than 90 % of the posters here. Each kid is different each person's process is different. Show some of that Grace and sportsmanship and allow others to do as they see fit without your expert knowledge. If you went to MD this weekend and your kids found it valuable awesome! If you went to the igloo event and your kid found it valuable awesome. To each their own


And I don't quite get the money thing. What does it cost to go to a tournament? Hotel/Meals/Milage & gas/tournament fee ... most of the time it approaches $400-$600 anyway, right?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 02:52 PM

Several key 2020 kids not there since it was a fall tournament but there is still enough talent to be more competitive. M&D also lost a few games for the same reason
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
beat by the florida team?? the studs got smoked.. funny it is supposed to be a recruiting tournament and YJ had a short bench all weekend.. haaaaaaaaaaa suckers..


KARMA



Im not a YJ Fan nor am I from LI..but the YJ Blue teams were not their top team by any stretch! That was a C or D team ...so dont get too excited
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Left Maryland last weekend to attend Sunday night and well worth it. Prime time and Lax Clash were a waste. Especially Lax Clash, No competition to speak of. Rather have my kid one of 80 in front of 15 head coaches then 1 of several hundred in front of assistants that spend more time on their phone than watching. Although previous poster was correct that many of best players did not attend, a few did shine .Coaches know what they are looking for. Speaking of a Florida Team beating YJ's, a 2020 goalie from Florida was at showcase and was insanely good. good as any I have seen in the class.


You're new to this aren't you? The assistants are looking at the tournament rosters on their phone and taking notes. There are others with tablets if they prefer to carry the extra device. But, there are very few that carry the big binders around in their hands. Those are usually in their backpacks or they just opt not to get one. The coaches that do receive programs/rosters from some teams at fields will usually use those to jot down notes or check to see who is committed because the rosters passed out by the teams are up to date. If you think those assistants that are sitting near you are not paying attention and just texting away to their buddies - you are probably one of those parents spouting off constantly at the refs and trying to coach your kid from the sidelines. We are on our third and last kid in this process/game - the coaches don't need to watch for too long and they also are not concerned about how good your kid is dodging around cones or picking up ground balls at a clinic. They want to see how your kid performs against the Maryland kids or deals with adversity while getting beat by a Maryland team. If your team just rolled over the competition - good, then I hope your daughter won with grace and showed sportsmanship.


The girls,in general, show more Grace and sportsmanship than 90 % of the posters here. Each kid is different each person's process is different. Show some of that Grace and sportsmanship and allow others to do as they see fit without your expert knowledge. If you went to MD this weekend and your kids found it valuable awesome! If you went to the igloo event and your kid found it valuable awesome. To each their own


And I don't quite get the money thing. What does it cost to go to a tournament? Hotel/Meals/Milage & gas/tournament fee ... most of the time it approaches $400-$600 anyway, right?


For all you newbies to the process: An Elite Camp/Event is when you are chosen and invited. IE: The Elite 120 which truly was with some exceptions the Best of the East Coast top clubs. After the new rule these are money grabs. Notice how many have popped up in the last year? If you r club is on the weaker side I guess spend the money if you think Sally is going to work hard and shine. Otherwise the coaches say Thank you for Shopping...Elite 80? really? I would love to know the make up of that group. Look up the definition of Elite- The Elite 120 was ELITE. Some of the folks who have older kids know what I'm talking about.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 03:10 PM

Yes your right....2 commits did not attend.....the other 12 commits were there with others from their A Team. A far cry from a 'scrub' team buddy...stop the excuses....they got beat...no big deal.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 03:53 PM

And how do you think that differs from yet another drive down 95? Tournament organizers and club teams say "thanks for shopping".
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 04:20 PM

The 2020 YJ blue team this past weekend had 18 blue roster players. They were missing 3 girls only. It was YJ’s top 2020 team hands down.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 05:52 PM

The Florida team you are talking about is the real deal. Seen them many times . At least 1/3 of team are 21's and believe the kid who committed to Syracuse as an 8th grader is on team . Could be best 2020 in country.They are ballers and not surprised they showed up to beat YJ's.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 06:45 PM

well said.......Parents are the problem in most sports
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 06:50 PM

YJ got beat a Florida Team.......wow....what was the score?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 06:57 PM

8-2 is more than a beating, if that was the score.......good for that Florida Team
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 06:59 PM

I will look for them this week. I saw they are at Mid Atlantic.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Florida team you are talking about is the real deal. Seen them many times . At least 1/3 of team are 21's and believe the kid who committed to Syracuse as an 8th grader is on team . Could be best 2020 in country.They are ballers and not surprised they showed up to beat YJ's.


I thought the 2020 Syracuse commit was a YJ player? They are on the YJ commit list?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 10:40 PM

2020 Syracuse girl may be best in her class in Florida but not the country. I'm told she was about #6 on depth chart when she played with YJ. Great kid and very good player but not best in the country. Who the heck knows (or cares) who is best in the country anyway with girls playing in every state.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 10:45 PM

I honestly do not get why people think winnng games in showcase fall tournaments is some big deal. My older kid played YJ years ago and the fall showcase tournament were all about getting kids recruited , no stalling ,play equal time , even kids playing out of normal position at times because a college coach wanted to get a look at them playing a certain position . The same dopes would come on here claiming some kids did not get in the game blah blah.My younger one does not play YJ for many reasons but go win a championship tournament and then you can brag all you want . We played M&D this fall and I will be the first to say it was not the same team that destroyed us over the summer .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/08/17 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And let me guess! The club programs are not, thanking you @ Christmas time lol. Oh I get it my little Suzy is committed,or maybe not but still pays for tryouts, for the same team they been playing with for over a decade. Oh I get it. My little Suzy is so good she does “NOT” attend anything without the other club girls because the directors told us not too. And this line, all the good girls only play for YJ. Well you should have attended Sunday’s Elite 80 and look at the 3 girls that stood out, and the coaches were going crazy for. All great shooters, field awareness, stick work, and one who would run circles around most kids on YJ. If they are not committed as of yet! They diffently left a great impression on the coaches in attendance. As some of the coaches gave special attention on field #2 to numbers 7,46, and #54 that kid is something to watch. And my daughters A team TG coach was there, a bit surprising but still an excellent event.


Of course SS was there, for $5,000 she will also come to your house for three hours
i dont kno why you're singling SS out. They all out the money in their pockets fool


Original post said they were surprised to see her there that's why she was referenced, obviously the $5,000 was more important then coaching her TG teams in Maryland that day...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 03:19 AM

when did she play with YJ? I heard it was 3-4 years ago.........who cares what she was on the depth chart there at that time.... are you kidding me.......i agree it doesnt matter who the best in the country is.......but she was the best on the fields for the 2020s this last weekend..........I officiated there. I watched the YJ game against the Florida team.....YJ was outplayed on every facet of the game..........every position..........YJ was missing two players ....that's it.......Florida Select was the better team. Sorry.......
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 05:38 AM

Played YJ two years ago
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
when did she play with YJ? I heard it was 3-4 years ago.........who cares what she was on the depth chart there at that time.... are you kidding me.......i agree it doesnt matter who the best in the country is.......but she was the best on the fields for the 2020s this last weekend..........I officiated there. I watched the YJ game against the Florida team.....YJ was outplayed on every facet of the game..........every position..........YJ was missing two players ....that's it.......Florida Select was the better team. Sorry.......


The dream team just isn't that good. Over hyped and do not play as a team.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And let me guess! The club programs are not, thanking you @ Christmas time lol. Oh I get it my little Suzy is committed,or maybe not but still pays for tryouts, for the same team they been playing with for over a decade. Oh I get it. My little Suzy is so good she does “NOT” attend anything without the other club girls because the directors told us not too. And this line, all the good girls only play for YJ. Well you should have attended Sunday’s Elite 80 and look at the 3 girls that stood out, and the coaches were going crazy for. All great shooters, field awareness, stick work, and one who would run circles around most kids on YJ. If they are not committed as of yet! They diffently left a great impression on the coaches in attendance. As some of the coaches gave special attention on field #2 to numbers 7,46, and #54 that kid is something to watch. And my daughters A team TG coach was there, a bit surprising but still an excellent event.


Of course SS was there, for $5,000 she will also come to your house for three hours
i dont kno why you're singling SS out. They all out the money in their pockets fool


Original post said they were surprised to see her there that's why she was referenced, obviously the $5,000 was more important then coaching her TG teams in Maryland that day...

Maryland tournament got delayed and then canceled on Sunday.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 08:04 PM

YJ 2020 dream team has handful of exceptional players and that is it. Mostly average players and below average coaching.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ 2020 dream team has handful of exceptional players and that is it. Mostly average players and below average coaching.



YJ coaching on both 2020 teams has always been lacking. They have some great talent but should do more with what they have. The coaches in that group expect for the TG transfer are all inner circle YJ minions that have played and been with CR fro decades. No way its ever changing. They have made CR a ton of cash
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 10:11 PM

Are all the girls on this team legit 2020 kids?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/09/17 10:24 PM

Which team? YJ or the team from Florida?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 02:19 AM

Team from Florida has about 7-8 2021's on the roster. They have only 1 team. no A or B. select group of kids. Florida is starting to produce a lot of D1 talent
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are all the girls on this team legit 2020 kids?


The Cuse commit is a holdback for sure, played with them on the Under Armour team this summer. Many of the GA and FL girls were older for 2020 and 2021.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 01:02 PM

Hahaha YJ. I know in showcases it’s not about winning or losing. But to lose to a team with 7-8 21s on the Florida team. HSF
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are all the girls on this team legit 2020 kids?


The Cuse commit is a holdback for sure, played with them on the Under Armour team this summer. Many of the GA and FL girls were older for 2020 and 2021.


Everyone outside of LI is a holdback. Where have you been?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 01:13 PM

Lol.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 01:21 PM

And they are probably on HGH.....lol. Must be the reason YJ lost.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha YJ. I know in showcases it’s not about winning or losing. But to lose to a team with 7-8 21s on the Florida team. HSF


Shes a holdback should be with 2019's!!!! Everyone knows it! And that YJ team is not their real team you idiots...and im not a YJ fan
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hahaha YJ. I know in showcases it’s not about winning or losing. But to lose to a team with 7-8 21s on the Florida team. HSF


Shes a holdback should be with 2019's!!!! Everyone knows it! And that YJ team is not their real team you idiots...and im not a YJ fan


Does it really matter now? Who cares if the holdbacks have their advantage now - the at-age girls will catch up when it matters most. When they are in college this supposed advantage will not matter anymore. We'll see who's getting the Tewaaraton awards.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 02:39 PM

I don't know it.......Please send me a copy of the birth certificate.......
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 03:40 PM

i think she was born in KENYA
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 04:23 PM

JAJA
JEJE
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
i think she was born in KENYA


Covfefe.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 07:09 PM

Any parent that holds their kid back for, wait for it... women's lacrosse, should really be looked in to. Its a dead end sport that no one really cares about except us parents of players.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any parent that holds their kid back for, wait for it... women's lacrosse, should really be looked in to. Its a dead end sport that no one really cares about except us parents of players.



The same goes for every other college sport. So whats your point.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 09:59 PM

So I hear this hold back conversation. What is considered a holdback?

1) A kid when she is 6 starts kindergarten late when a parent has no clue if he/she will be a dancer/athlete/musician?

2) A kid who's parents hold them back when they are 6-7th grade to possibly gain a in sports or any other activity.

I can see a little frustration by parents on two. But on one I really don't see how you can the kid was held back on purpose by parent.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 11:17 PM

Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 11:17 PM

First of all if she was held back, you have no idea why she was (and if she even was). I know people that have held their kid back because they were the youngest in the grade (based on the cutoff). The kid was a genius Got a full academic ride for school. Double major and now is off to get his masters. Boy can you believe it. The horror.

The hate on this site is crazy. As a HS soccer coach (and no, I do not coach my kids) the parents push their kids out of sports. I was at CI this last weekend and parents make this more important than it is. Kids are kids. Stop pretending this is about them when you parents are living through them.

It really is embarrassing to see parents at all of these showcases. My favorite is when I see parents laying into their kids at the parking lot after the game.

I am on my way to the mid Atlantic and I will go watch this Florida team to see what their story is. And if they are the real deal, I will report back.



Coach Anonymous
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/10/17 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
So I hear this hold back conversation. What is considered a holdback?

1) A kid when she is 6 starts kindergarten late when a parent has no clue if he/she will be a dancer/athlete/musician?

2) A kid who's parents hold them back when they are 6-7th grade to possibly gain a in sports or any other activity.

I can see a little frustration by parents on two. But on one I really don't see how you can the kid was held back on purpose by parent.






3) A parent who holds their kid back knowing it’s an advantage both in the classroom and athletic field who had no other reason to do so at the time ie kid was meeting all physical and mental mile stones.

Yes the Florida kid is a holdback being more than a full year older than many of the other 2020 players , that said YJ should keep their mouths shut as they have a few also.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/11/17 12:21 AM

Good for that parent.

Haters gonna hate hate hate hate
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/11/17 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?



Skywalkers also lost to TG 11-7
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/11/17 03:30 AM

I guess I have never heard of a parent say that kid is a holdback that is why he is smarter than my kid. LOL.

You would think we would hear that a lot as academics and grades are much more important than your lax ability. Except of course here on Long Island.

I hope people can enjoy the game there kids are playing,stop bashing others and make sure they do their homework in between games as that is what matters.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/11/17 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any parent that holds their kid back for, wait for it... women's lacrosse, should really be looked in to. Its a dead end sport that no one really cares about except us parents of players.



The same goes for every other college sport. So whats your point.


There is some money to be made in men's football, basketball and baseball and maybe a little soccer for those 1 in a million players.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/11/17 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any parent that holds their kid back for, wait for it... women's lacrosse, should really be looked in to. Its a dead end sport that no one really cares about except us parents of players.



The same goes for every other college sport. So whats your point.


There is some money to be made in men's football, basketball and baseball and maybe a little soccer for those 1 in a million players.


Really.....lets take a look,

Since BOTC is always fact based lets see the facts. % o college players turning pro

**M Baseball-9%-Caveat is minor leagues are considered pro ball
M Basketball-1%
W Basketball-1%
Football-1.5%
MHockey-5.6%-Caveat is minor league hockey is considered pro
M Soccer-1.5%
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/11/17 09:21 PM

First you need to consider how few kids even make it to D-1 college sports.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/12/17 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any parent that holds their kid back for, wait for it... women's lacrosse, should really be looked in to. Its a dead end sport that no one really cares about except us parents of players.



The same goes for every other college sport. So whats your point.


There is some money to be made in men's football, basketball and baseball and maybe a little soccer for those 1 in a million players.


Really.....lets take a look,

Since BOTC is always fact based lets see the facts. % o college players turning pro

**M Baseball-9%-Caveat is minor leagues are considered pro ball
M Basketball-1%
W Basketball-1%
Football-1.5%
MHockey-5.6%-Caveat is minor league hockey is considered pro
M Soccer-1.5%



I think it said 1 in a million players so that ties to your percentages above but no matter how you slice it there is no real women' professional lacrosse league. There is a league that pays them gas money but that's about it. So holdback for what? Anybody can be a high school of club summer coach if that is your dream.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any parent that holds their kid back for, wait for it... women's lacrosse, should really be looked in to. Its a dead end sport that no one really cares about except us parents of players.



The same goes for every other college sport. So whats your point.


There is some money to be made in men's football, basketball and baseball and maybe a little soccer for those 1 in a million players.


Really.....lets take a look,

Since BOTC is always fact based lets see the facts. % o college players turning pro

**M Baseball-9%-Caveat is minor leagues are considered pro ball
M Basketball-1%
W Basketball-1%
Football-1.5%
MHockey-5.6%-Caveat is minor league hockey is considered pro
M Soccer-1.5%



I think it said 1 in a million players so that ties to your percentages above but no matter how you slice it there is no real women' professional lacrosse league. There is a league that pays them gas money but that's about it. So holdback for what? Anybody can be a high school of club summer coach if that is your dream.


Holdback so my daughter has a better shot at Harvard and will be on a better track for life than yours
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 01:17 AM

Si. JAJA.

WHO CARES ?????? At the end of the day.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 03:47 AM

So how was the mid Atlantic? What teams did well? How was the showcase?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?



Skywalkers also lost to TG 11-7


And Liberty took down TG 2020 Black this weekend
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?



Skywalkers also lost to TG 11-7


And Liberty took down TG 2020 Black this weekend


Not only did Liberty take down 2020 Black the Liberty 2019 Team took down TG 2019 Black 14-2. My daughter plays for another LI club (Elevate) and I watched parts of both of these games as I like to watch the LI teams play. Liberty is a very well coached club and now doubt falls right behind YJ in many age groups.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 02:09 PM

YJ Curcio still a nightmare, picture has gotten much clearer. Parents out weigh coach I guess, the lynch mob that went to CR got their way. Studs only play and we play to win regardless that its a showcase or championship formats.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?



Skywalkers also lost to TG 11-7


And Liberty took down TG 2020 Black this weekend


Not only did Liberty take down 2020 Black the Liberty 2019 Team took down TG 2019 Black 14-2. My daughter plays for another LI club (Elevate) and I watched parts of both of these games as I like to watch the LI teams play. Liberty is a very well coached club and now doubt falls right behind YJ in many age groups.


Liberty is such a great program with such great coaching that it can't even fill 2 teams per grade/year!! Players have given up with this club. Especially the negativity of DG. just terrible.,
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?



Skywalkers also lost to TG 11-7


And Liberty took down TG 2020 Black this weekend


Not only did Liberty take down 2020 Black the Liberty 2019 Team took down TG 2019 Black 14-2. My daughter plays for another LI club (Elevate) and I watched parts of both of these games as I like to watch the LI teams play. Liberty is a very well coached club and now doubt falls right behind YJ in many age groups.


Liberty is such a great program with such great coaching that it can't even fill 2 teams per grade/year!! Players have given up with this club. Especially the negativity of DG. just terrible.,
Let let you in on a secret about Liberty, D.G., To my knowledge, never wanted to to field even a second team. She wants to concentrate on a single team per age group. My daughter came up through Liberty, and I don't know a single parent that has, or had a daughter play for liberty, that will say D.G has a negative tendencies . To say that she is unfair because she has a lot of girls from 'set is the same as saying that Bertalone is unfair because he take a lot of girls from M.S.or rose is unfair because she takes a lot of girls from N.P.or that Thorn is unfair because she takes a lot from ESM. Yes she pushed for her 'set girls more actively, but that is understandable because she's also there H.S. coach. Why don't you Y.J. drones say the same about the afore mentioned Y.J. coaches, they do the same thing? Her help for my daughter went beyond anything I ever imagined a club coach would do for her and believe me, we don't live in 'set. Stop spreading misinformation about a club and coach your daughter obviesoly never played for. And HA HA YOU GOT BEAT BY THEM
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any parent that holds their kid back for, wait for it... women's lacrosse, should really be looked in to. Its a dead end sport that no one really cares about except us parents of players.



The same goes for every other college sport. So whats your point.


There is some money to be made in men's football, basketball and baseball and maybe a little soccer for those 1 in a million players.


Really.....lets take a look,

Since BOTC is always fact based lets see the facts. % o college players turning pro

**M Baseball-9%-Caveat is minor leagues are considered pro ball
M Basketball-1%
W Basketball-1%
Football-1.5%
MHockey-5.6%-Caveat is minor league hockey is considered pro
M Soccer-1.5%



I think it said 1 in a million players so that ties to your percentages above but no matter how you slice it there is no real women' professional lacrosse league. There is a league that pays them gas money but that's about it. So holdback for what? Anybody can be a high school of club summer coach if that is your dream.


Holdback so my daughter has a better shot at Harvard and will be on a better track for life than yours


Funny! Most crazy holdback parents are worried about sending their kids to powerhouse lacrosse programs, not powerhouse academic institutions. I don't know the answer to this but how do ivies view holdbacks? I would think they would like 16 year doogie howsers doctors over lacrosse players
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Curcio still a nightmare, picture has gotten much clearer. Parents out weigh coach I guess, the lynch mob that went to CR got their way. Studs only play and we play to win regardless that its a showcase or championship formats.


No different at TG!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 10:22 PM

well said....that is all that matters....i agree
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/13/17 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Curcio still a nightmare, picture has gotten much clearer. Parents out weigh coach I guess, the lynch mob that went to CR got their way. Studs only play and we play to win regardless that its a showcase or championship formats.


You are either a troll trying to start trouble or a completely ill informed flaccid looser. Lynch mob that went to CR , please tell us about that and what was said , you really are a loser .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Curcio still a nightmare, picture has gotten much clearer. Parents out weigh coach I guess, the lynch mob that went to CR got their way. Studs only play and we play to win regardless that its a showcase or championship formats.


You are either a troll trying to start trouble or a completely ill informed flaccid looser. Lynch mob that went to CR , please tell us about that and what was said , you really are a loser .


I guess that you were not part of the mob that informed CR that they still want to win at all costs and that equal playing time wasn't an option - I guess we know where your kid is in the pecking order
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?



Skywalkers also lost to TG 11-7


And Liberty took down TG 2020 Black this weekend


Not only did Liberty take down 2020 Black the Liberty 2019 Team took down TG 2019 Black 14-2. My daughter plays for another LI club (Elevate) and I watched parts of both of these games as I like to watch the LI teams play. Liberty is a very well coached club and now doubt falls right behind YJ in many age groups.




Stop that was not TG 2019 Black at T3
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 02:23 AM

so i got to see that Florida team play........wow....great chemistry....very impressed.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]YJ Curcio still a nightmare, picture has gotten much clearer. Parents out weigh coach I guess, the lynch mob that went to CR got their way. Studs only play and we play to win regardless that its a showcase or championship formats.


You are either a troll trying to start trouble or a completely ill informed flaccid looser. Lynch mob that went to CR , please tell us about that and what was said , you really are a loser .


I guess that you were not part of the mob that informed CR that they still want to win at all costs and that equal playing time wasn't an option - I guess we know
where your kid is in the pecking order[/quot

So what your saying is several parents went to CR to complain about your kid playing and you knew about it and your such a placid loser you say nothing to these people . Not sure what’s worse that you make up this story with no facts or you portray yourself as such a loser who refuses to advocate for your kid when she is being treated like a doormat , what a loser either way.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?



Skywalkers also lost to TG 11-7


And Liberty took down TG 2020 Black this weekend


Not only did Liberty take down 2020 Black the Liberty 2019 Team took down TG 2019 Black 14-2. My daughter plays for another LI club (Elevate) and I watched parts of both of these games as I like to watch the LI teams play. Liberty is a very well coached club and now doubt falls right behind YJ in many age groups.




Stop that was not TG 2019 Black at T3

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?



Skywalkers also lost to TG 11-7


And Liberty took down TG 2020 Black this weekend


Not only did Liberty take down 2020 Black the Liberty 2019 Team took down TG 2019 Black 14-2. My daughter plays for another LI club (Elevate) and I watched parts of both of these games as I like to watch the LI teams play. Liberty is a very well coached club and now doubt falls right behind YJ in many age groups.




Stop that was not TG 2019 Black at T3


That was definitely the Purple team. Waste of time for both teams.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?



Skywalkers also lost to TG 11-7


And Liberty took down TG 2020 Black this weekend


Not only did Liberty take down 2020 Black the Liberty 2019 Team took down TG 2019 Black 14-2. My daughter plays for another LI club (Elevate) and I watched parts of both of these games as I like to watch the LI teams play. Liberty is a very well coached club and now doubt falls right behind YJ in many age groups.




Stop that was not TG 2019 Black at T3

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?



Skywalkers also lost to TG 11-7


And Liberty took down TG 2020 Black this weekend


Not only did Liberty take down 2020 Black the Liberty 2019 Team took down TG 2019 Black 14-2. My daughter plays for another LI club (Elevate) and I watched parts of both of these games as I like to watch the LI teams play. Liberty is a very well coached club and now doubt falls right behind YJ in many age groups.




Stop that was not TG 2019 Black at T3


That was definitely the Purple team. Waste of time for both teams.
that was the purple team with a few uncommitted black. The purple team cannot compete with the teams they faced in the fall. Too high level for them
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 12:12 PM

what was sad about the Curcio team is that she played the studs when the non committed players sat on the sidelines while college coaches watched the game, which most left at halftime as there was not need to watch the game knowing she was playing a short bench... and her team still lost to M&D Black again. The formula of playing kids out of position is not working. They beat the average team but will lost to the top teams. It has been this way for 2 years now and there is no light at the end of the tunnel.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 12:56 PM

You were told this in a massive group me message the day another summer season went in the crapper.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 01:22 PM

yes, and the point was.. 2 years ago when Curcio played all the girls equally, they use to beat up on M&D Black.. now with her new " coaching" philosophy of play to win at all cost.. they have not won anything or beaten a meaningful team in 2 years . While all the other teams sub out, you have to see the gassed middies not being able to get back and help on defense which puts the defense in a bad situation .. then switch middies with attack and defense.. not realizing that attack players cant man up and defend, don't know now to slide or communicate on defense.. they only know how to ride... M&D embarrassed them again.. they seem to have it right.. they play everyone equally. and in the last game on Sunday.. which was a SHOWCASE game.. M&D played their backup goalie who was not committed 3/4 of the game to get her looks.. that is what a real organization who cares about their players do... gets all the kids looks.. Good luck with the summer of 2018.. wont be any different than the summer of 2016 or 2017. Oh and can't wait for certain girls who wont show up to the " mandatory " winter practices.. while Curcio said if you don't show up you wont play.. how she will enforce that??? she didn't enforce it this weekend I can tell you that.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Of course it's the real YJ team. Look online at the tourney roster and the team roster. There may be a few other girls on the tourney roste but mainly the full yjA roster! they got crushed. Maybe they had a bad day , maybe they just got beat by a better team. . FL beat skywalkers as well. FL girls are holdbacjs too?



Skywalkers also lost to TG 11-7


And Liberty took down TG 2020 Black this weekend


Not only did Liberty take down 2020 Black the Liberty 2019 Team took down TG 2019 Black 14-2. My daughter plays for another LI club (Elevate) and I watched parts of both of these games as I like to watch the LI teams play. Liberty is a very well coached club and now doubt falls right behind YJ in many age groups.


Liberty is such a great program with such great coaching that it can't even fill 2 teams per grade/year!! Players have given up with this club. Especially the negativity of DG. just terrible.,
Let let you in on a secret about Liberty, D.G., To my knowledge, never wanted to to field even a second team. She wants to concentrate on a single team per age group. My daughter came up through Liberty, and I don't know a single parent that has, or had a daughter play for liberty, that will say D.G has a negative tendencies . To say that she is unfair because she has a lot of girls from 'set is the same as saying that Bertalone is unfair because he take a lot of girls from M.S.or rose is unfair because she takes a lot of girls from N.P.or that Thorn is unfair because she takes a lot from ESM. Yes she pushed for her 'set girls more actively, but that is understandable because she's also there H.S. coach. Why don't you Y.J. drones say the same about the afore mentioned Y.J. coaches, they do the same thing? Her help for my daughter went beyond anything I ever imagined a club coach would do for her and believe me, we don't live in 'set. Stop spreading misinformation about a club and coach your daughter obviesoly never played for. And HA HA YOU GOT BEAT BY THEM


"Let let you in on a secret about Liberty, D.G., To my knowledge, never wanted to field even a second team. She wants to concentrate on a single team per age group. "

So..what does that say about DG?...that she is duplicitous in fielding 2 teams at multiple age groups, when according to you, she just wants to concentrate on ONE team per age group? So all these years, we have been duped....hmmmm
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes, and the point was.. 2 years ago when Curcio played all the girls equally, they use to beat up on M&D Black.. now with her new " coaching" philosophy of play to win at all cost.. they have not won anything or beaten a meaningful team in 2 years . While all the other teams sub out, you have to see the gassed middies not being able to get back and help on defense which puts the defense in a bad situation .. then switch middies with attack and defense.. not realizing that attack players cant man up and defend, don't know now to slide or communicate on defense.. they only know how to ride... M&D embarrassed them again.. they seem to have it right.. they play everyone equally. and in the last game on Sunday.. which was a SHOWCASE game.. M&D played their backup goalie who was not committed 3/4 of the game to get her looks.. that is what a real organization who cares about their players do... gets all the kids looks.. Good luck with the summer of 2018.. wont be any different than the summer of 2016 or 2017. Oh and can't wait for certain girls who wont show up to the " mandatory " winter practices.. while Curcio said if you don't show up you wont play.. how she will enforce that??? she didn't enforce it this weekend I can tell you that.


Nobody cares in that group, that whole me first group is committed. They paid into the devil, they had bad coaching, the parents are terrible to be around but at the end they all got exactly what they wanted, a verbal commitment. Good for the girls but its still toxic club and hideous parents. Those parents embrace being disliked
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes, and the point was.. 2 years ago when Curcio played all the girls equally, they use to beat up on M&D Black.. now with her new " coaching" philosophy of play to win at all cost.. they have not won anything or beaten a meaningful team in 2 years . While all the other teams sub out, you have to see the gassed middies not being able to get back and help on defense which puts the defense in a bad situation .. then switch middies with attack and defense.. not realizing that attack players cant man up and defend, don't know now to slide or communicate on defense.. they only know how to ride... M&D embarrassed them again.. they seem to have it right.. they play everyone equally. and in the last game on Sunday.. which was a SHOWCASE game.. M&D played their backup goalie who was not committed 3/4 of the game to get her looks.. that is what a real organization who cares about their players do... gets all the kids looks.. Good luck with the summer of 2018.. wont be any different than the summer of 2016 or 2017. Oh and can't wait for certain girls who wont show up to the " mandatory " winter practices.. while Curcio said if you don't show up you wont play.. how she will enforce that??? she didn't enforce it this weekend I can tell you that.


Here is the problem with your nonsense, you obviously are just some douchie pot stirrer with no kid on the team , if you had a kid on the team you would realize that they beat MD last weekend so they have traded wins vs MD in the fall. When you get that basic fact wrong everything else you say is just obviously bs. Go back to the hole you crawled out of.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes, and the point was.. 2 years ago when Curcio played all the girls equally, they use to beat up on M&D Black.. now with her new " coaching" philosophy of play to win at all cost.. they have not won anything or beaten a meaningful team in 2 years . While all the other teams sub out, you have to see the gassed middies not being able to get back and help on defense which puts the defense in a bad situation .. then switch middies with attack and defense.. not realizing that attack players cant man up and defend, don't know now to slide or communicate on defense.. they only know how to ride... M&D embarrassed them again.. they seem to have it right.. they play everyone equally. and in the last game on Sunday.. which was a SHOWCASE game.. M&D played their backup goalie who was not committed 3/4 of the game to get her looks.. that is what a real organization who cares about their players do... gets all the kids looks.. Good luck with the summer of 2018.. wont be any different than the summer of 2016 or 2017. Oh and can't wait for certain girls who wont show up to the " mandatory " winter practices.. while Curcio said if you don't show up you wont play.. how she will enforce that??? she didn't enforce it this weekend I can tell you that.


Here is the problem with your nonsense, you obviously are just some douchie pot stirrer with no kid on the team , if you had a kid on the team you would realize that they beat MD last weekend so they have traded wins vs MD in the fall. When you get that basic fact wrong everything else you say is just obviously bs. Go back to the hole you crawled out of.


I don't have a dog in this but if someone is quoting "mandatory" winter practices and other information it sounds like its coming from your own team. So calling someone a childish name kind of puts you on that same level. Maybe its just as simple as other teams are better or perhaps the poster is correct the new coaching philosophy doesn't work. Facts are your "team" doesn't win nearly as much as they used too, the philosophy was in the past was somewhat of a "team" defenders played defense, middies played midfield and attackers played attack. Now you have attackers that can't score or feed, middies who are gassed and defenders who well God only knows, I don't even want to get into your goalie situation. So have fun killing each other and yes your star parents have made a stink to both your coach and CR its not a secret....... its not working but its not a secret
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes, and the point was.. 2 years ago when Curcio played all the girls equally, they use to beat up on M&D Black.. now with her new " coaching" philosophy of play to win at all cost.. they have not won anything or beaten a meaningful team in 2 years . While all the other teams sub out, you have to see the gassed middies not being able to get back and help on defense which puts the defense in a bad situation .. then switch middies with attack and defense.. not realizing that attack players cant man up and defend, don't know now to slide or communicate on defense.. they only know how to ride... M&D embarrassed them again.. they seem to have it right.. they play everyone equally. and in the last game on Sunday.. which was a SHOWCASE game.. M&D played their backup goalie who was not committed 3/4 of the game to get her looks.. that is what a real organization who cares about their players do... gets all the kids looks.. Good luck with the summer of 2018.. wont be any different than the summer of 2016 or 2017. Oh and can't wait for certain girls who wont show up to the " mandatory " winter practices.. while Curcio said if you don't show up you wont play.. how she will enforce that??? she didn't enforce it this weekend I can tell you that.


Here is the problem with your nonsense, you obviously are just some douchie pot stirrer with no kid on the team , if you had a kid on the team you would realize that they beat MD last weekend so they have traded wins vs MD in the fall. When you get that basic fact wrong everything else you say is just obviously bs. Go back to the hole you crawled out of.


I don't have a dog in this but if someone is quoting "mandatory" winter practices and other information it sounds like its coming from your own team. So calling someone a childish name kind of puts you on that same level. Maybe its just as simple as other teams are better or perhaps the poster is correct the new coaching philosophy doesn't work. Facts are your "team" doesn't win nearly as much as they used too, the philosophy was in the past was somewhat of a "team" defenders played defense, middies played midfield and attackers played attack. Now you have attackers that can't score or feed, middies who are gassed and defenders who well God only knows, I don't even want to get into your goalie situation. So have fun killing each other and yes your star parents have made a stink to both your coach and CR its not a secret....... its not working but its not a secret


For someone who does not have a dog in this fight you sure pretend to know way too much which makes you a bit of a stalker or just a liar. The poster was called douchie because they are just flat out making up nonsense. Wow they split games with MD in fall showcase tournaments and you are acting like its some horrible team. Honestly if Curcio told them at the end of last season what to expect moving forward and she has stuck to her word then good for her . If that is the case they should shut their mouths because they were told what was to come. If she went back on her word than people would have something to complain about. That said I watched them play last week and in no way did they seem to be playing to win at all costs so this seems to be a couple disgruntled parents acting like cowards instead of speaking directly with the coach.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 05:27 PM

2020's with CR Curcio and Jones have rode the gravy train for almost 9-10 years with this group. If I was part of that group and still not committed I would be screaming my head off because wins don't matter at this point but playing time does as kids try to get college looks.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes, and the point was.. 2 years ago when Curcio played all the girls equally, they use to beat up on M&D Black.. now with her new " coaching" philosophy of play to win at all cost.. they have not won anything or beaten a meaningful team in 2 years . While all the other teams sub out, you have to see the gassed middies not being able to get back and help on defense which puts the defense in a bad situation .. then switch middies with attack and defense.. not realizing that attack players cant man up and defend, don't know now to slide or communicate on defense.. they only know how to ride... M&D embarrassed them again.. they seem to have it right.. they play everyone equally. and in the last game on Sunday.. which was a SHOWCASE game.. M&D played their backup goalie who was not committed 3/4 of the game to get her looks.. that is what a real organization who cares about their players do... gets all the kids looks.. Good luck with the summer of 2018.. wont be any different than the summer of 2016 or 2017. Oh and can't wait for certain girls who wont show up to the " mandatory " winter practices.. while Curcio said if you don't show up you wont play.. how she will enforce that??? she didn't enforce it this weekend I can tell you that.


Here is the problem with your nonsense, you obviously are just some douchie pot stirrer with no kid on the team , if you had a kid on the team you would realize that they beat MD last weekend so they have traded wins vs MD in the fall. When you get that basic fact wrong everything else you say is just obviously bs. Go back to the hole you crawled out of.


I don't have a dog in this but if someone is quoting "mandatory" winter practices and other information it sounds like its coming from your own team. So calling someone a childish name kind of puts you on that same level. Maybe its just as simple as other teams are better or perhaps the poster is correct the new coaching philosophy doesn't work. Facts are your "team" doesn't win nearly as much as they used too, the philosophy was in the past was somewhat of a "team" defenders played defense, middies played midfield and attackers played attack. Now you have attackers that can't score or feed, middies who are gassed and defenders who well God only knows, I don't even want to get into your goalie situation. So have fun killing each other and yes your star parents have made a stink to both your coach and CR its not a secret....... its not working but its not a secret


For someone who does not have a dog in this fight you sure pretend to know way too much which makes you a bit of a stalker or just a liar. The poster was called douchie because they are just flat out making up nonsense. Wow they split games with MD in fall showcase tournaments and you are acting like its some horrible team. Honestly if Curcio told them at the end of last season what to expect moving forward and she has stuck to her word then good for her . If that is the case they should shut their mouths because they were told what was to come. If she went back on her word than people would have something to complain about. That said I watched them play last week and in no way did they seem to be playing to win at all costs so this seems to be a couple disgruntled parents acting like cowards instead of speaking directly with the coach.

Excuse me but aren't you doing the same thing as the "dog fighter" how would you know its "nonsense" you are commenting like you are not on the team; and yes you have many disgruntled parents on that team including "stud" parents as well as parents of "uncommitted". You and your parents are the problem big mouths and you go spewing your stories all over YJ period. So stop talking the high road big mouths from immature parents and club owner and coach who have there priorities in the wrong places.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 06:36 PM

"Excuse me but aren't you doing the same thing as the "dog fighter" how would you know its "nonsense" you are commenting like you are not on the team; and yes you have many disgruntled parents on that team including "stud" parents as well as parents of "uncommitted". You and your parents are the problem big mouths and you go spewing your stories all over YJ period. So stop talking the high road big mouths from immature parents and club owner and coach who have there priorities in the wrong places."

Actually I was just going on the info on this site and the 20 minutes of a game I watched while my daughters team warmed up. I know its nonsense because I know they beat MD this fall so after that anything that poster says has to be considered unreliable at best. I think its hilarious that some of you morons just don't see how ridiculous your comments are. Say what you want but looking at their list of commits tells me that in getting kids committed there is no better team in the age group so the way Curcio is running the team is working out just fine for the kids on the team, results don't lie. You all come on with subjective criticism and nothing concrete that can actually be checked but when you look at the facts its trolls that team is doing great.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 07:09 PM

6 years moron
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Excuse me but aren't you doing the same thing as the "dog fighter" how would you know its "nonsense" you are commenting like you are not on the team; and yes you have many disgruntled parents on that team including "stud" parents as well as parents of "uncommitted". You and your parents are the problem big mouths and you go spewing your stories all over YJ period. So stop talking the high road big mouths from immature parents and club owner and coach who have there priorities in the wrong places."

Actually I was just going on the info on this site and the 20 minutes of a game I watched while my daughters team warmed up. I know its nonsense because I know they beat MD this fall so after that anything that poster says has to be considered unreliable at best. I think its hilarious that some of you morons just don't see how ridiculous your comments are. Say what you want but looking at their list of commits tells me that in getting kids committed there is no better team in the age group so the way Curcio is running the team is working out just fine for the kids on the team, results don't lie. You all come on with subjective criticism and nothing concrete that can actually be checked but when you look at the facts its trolls that team is doing great.



Dont you two idiots get it? it doesnt matter who won or lost in these games!!!! the Coaches dont care! The coaches are coming to these better teams games to watch individual players!! who gives a rats [lacrosse] who wins! I get it... you like to wear your kids club teams sweatshirts around and pound your chests at the bar! In the end all that matters is are the coaches coming to watch your team! Then its up to Sally to perform as a team player!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
what was sad about the Curcio team is that she played the studs when the non committed players sat on the sidelines while college coaches watched the game, which most left at halftime as there was not need to watch the game knowing she was playing a short bench... and her team still lost to M&D Black again. The formula of playing kids out of position is not working. They beat the average team but will lost to the top teams. It has been this way for 2 years now and there is no light at the end of the tunnel.


the light at the end of the tunnel is that you have one more year after this to act like an [lacrosse] and then you can troll college teams and coaches
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Anonymous
yes, and the point was.. 2 years ago when Curcio played all the girls equally, they use to beat up on M&D Black.. now with her new " coaching" philosophy of play to win at all cost.. they have not won anything or beaten a meaningful team in 2 years . While all the other teams sub out, you have to see the gassed middies not being able to get back and help on defense which puts the defense in a bad situation .. then switch middies with attack and defense.. not realizing that attack players cant man up and defend, don't know now to slide or communicate on defense.. they only know how to ride... M&D embarrassed them again.. they seem to have it right.. they play everyone equally. and in the last game on Sunday.. which was a SHOWCASE game.. M&D played their backup goalie who was not committed 3/4 of the game to get her looks.. that is what a real organization who cares about their players do... gets all the kids looks.. Good luck with the summer of 2018.. wont be any different than the summer of 2016 or 2017. Oh and can't wait for certain girls who wont show up to the " mandatory " winter practices.. while Curcio said if you don't show up you wont play.. how she will enforce that??? she didn't enforce it this weekend I can tell you that.


Here is the problem with your nonsense, you obviously are just some douchie pot stirrer with no kid on the team , if you had a kid on the team you would realize that they beat MD last weekend so they have traded wins vs MD in the fall. When you get that basic fact wrong everything else you say is just obviously bs. Go back to the hole you crawled out of.


I don't have a dog in this but if someone is quoting "mandatory" winter practices and other information it sounds like its coming from your own team. So calling someone a childish name kind of puts you on that same level. Maybe its just as simple as other teams are better or perhaps the poster is correct the new coaching philosophy doesn't work. Facts are your "team" doesn't win nearly as much as they used too, the philosophy was in the past was somewhat of a "team" defenders played defense, middies played midfield and attackers played attack. Now you have attackers that can't score or feed, middies who are gassed and defenders who well God only knows, I don't even want to get into your goalie situation. So have fun killing each other and yes your star parents have made a stink to both your coach and CR its not a secret....... its not working but its not a secret


For someone who does not have a dog in this fight you sure pretend to know way too much which makes you a bit of a stalker or just a liar. The poster was called douchie because they are just flat out making up nonsense. Wow they split games with MD in fall showcase tournaments and you are acting like its some horrible team. Honestly if Curcio told them at the end of last season what to expect moving forward and she has stuck to her word then good for her . If that is the case they should shut their mouths because they were told what was to come. If she went back on her word than people would have something to complain about. That said I watched them play last week and in no way did they seem to be playing to win at all costs so this seems to be a couple disgruntled parents acting like cowards instead of speaking directly with the coach.

Excuse me but aren't you doing the same thing as the "dog fighter" how would you know its "nonsense" you are commenting like you are not on the team; and yes you have many disgruntled parents on that team including "stud" parents as well as parents of "uncommitted". You and your parents are the problem big mouths and you go spewing your stories all over YJ period. So stop talking the high road big mouths from immature parents and club owner and coach who have there priorities in the wrong places.


you actually have a parent recruiting (or attempting to) for his kids college team so that she will have some "decent pieces" around her, that's how crazy the dynamic is with this team
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
6 years moron
?? No one but you have any idea what this is in response to. What college has a recruit parent recruiting for them or is this just some more made up nonsense.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 08:37 PM

The YJ team and its coach are in a difficult spot with so many girls committed and wanting to compete at a high level, while still having a handful of kids mostly on defense still trying to get seen and committed. I don't envy the position the coach is in. For every player and family that is happy there are several that are disappointed and I don't see that ever changing. There has to be a better way of doing things if they really care about the kids. Why not limit fall events to kids not committed from various YJ teams. Do the committed kids really need to play in fall tournaments.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
The YJ team and its coach are in a difficult spot with so many girls committed and wanting to compete at a high level, while still having a handful of kids mostly on defense still trying to get seen and committed. I don't envy the position the coach is in. For every player and family that is happy there are several that are disappointed and I don't see that ever changing. There has to be a better way of doing things if they really care about the kids. Why not limit fall events to kids not committed from various YJ teams. Do the committed kids really need to play in fall tournaments.


Because then you would not have enough kids to form a team and if you then just put them with jones team no one would be happy. Its an impossible situation because there are several reasons that kids play travel . On one hand kids are playing hoping to get recruited and on the other hand you have recruited kids looking to play in competitive games. I have a suggestion that I have not heard before. Make the games two 25 minute halves, the first half no score is kept and play mostly non recruited kids the second half score is kept and teams play to win.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 09:08 PM

dg
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
6 years moron
?? No one but you have any idea what this is in response to. What college has a recruit parent recruiting for them or is this just some more made up nonsense.


its pretty common knowledge what he's trying to do, i'm sure the college coach has no idea
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/14/17 10:47 PM

You would think the coaches and teammates would spread the minutes and the ball around during the fall tournaments to those who haven't verbaled but the coaches are weak and the players are incapable of being good teammates because their parents would make them walk home if they didn't go to goal.

So sad. Nobody gets it
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 12:21 PM

I heard that the 2019 YJ team that played down in MD the past weekends is all the uncommitted girls. They did not shine against the MD teams in general, but, they all got looks. How are the MD teams able to have their committed girls play? Do these MD girls do lacrosse all year, even the high school juniors?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 12:57 PM

curcio's formula of putting the " best team " on the field and win at all costs is not working.. if you look back 2 years ago, they were beating everyone all while playing everyone equally.. nothing will change next year.. tight bench, parents will [lacrosse], and they still will not win a meaningful game.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 02:07 PM

Common Sense .....not so common.............why play girls equally when you think you have to win every time.......[lacrosse] with the girls that are not committed yet....... screw the college coaches that come out to watch the girls that arent commtiied. screw the parents whose kids don't get decent looks........

screw me? screw everybody
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 03:03 PM

I saw them too......unbelievable team. i agree on the chemistry....stick skills and ball movement were a pleasure to watch.........
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
curcio's formula of putting the " best team " on the field and win at all costs is not working.. if you look back 2 years ago, they were beating everyone all while playing everyone equally.. nothing will change next year.. tight bench, parents will [lacrosse], and they still will not win a meaningful game.


You people are ridiculous . The posts about Curcios team are either a team parent who is being deliberately misleading or someone who does not have a player on the team and is just ignorant ,either way they are just trying to build up their kid by knocking others down. In reality Curcios team has beaten many top teams MD, Heroes etc this fall. Playing time last summer was essentially equal and and a little less this fall. To say they are playing to win at all cost is ridiculous , the generally considered best player on the team ( UNC commit) by the coach has not started many of the fall games .Whats worse is if this is a parent of one of the players stop being a coward and have a discussion with Curcio or go to another club and if this is some troll from another club grow up and at least get your facts straight.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 05:41 PM

I am not referring to any specific clubs.......could care less if it is YJ or Skywalkers or M&D (or any other club)........at showcases play the kids more that are not committed......
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 10:15 PM

The solution for the 2020s and 2019s is simple but perhaps unpalatable to money hungry club directors...split teams into "committed" and "uncommitted." The committed players can continue honing their skills, which is presumably why they continue to play club ball. The uncommitted players can focus on developing and showcasing. Place teams in brackets where they will be challenged because no college coach will value watching a blowout. Forget about the scores. Clubs will be evaluated by how well they do in positioning their players for the next level, not on any meaningless championship trophies.

Maybe clubs won't max out profits with this approach, but they would have a lot more satisfied customers.

I can dream, can't I?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/15/17 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
The solution for the 2020s and 2019s is simple but perhaps unpalatable to money hungry club directors...split teams into "committed" and "uncommitted." The committed players can continue honing their skills, which is presumably why they continue to play club ball. The uncommitted players can focus on developing and showcasing. Place teams in brackets where they will be challenged because no college coach will value watching a blowout. Forget about the scores. Clubs will be evaluated by how well they do in positioning their players for the next level, not on any meaningless championship trophies.

Maybe clubs won't max out profits with this approach, but they would have a lot more satisfied customers.

I can dream, can't I?



Yeah ok.... Club lacrosse is the most corrupt money hungry group out there. They are so powerful they render US Lacrosse almost powerless
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/16/17 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am not referring to any specific clubs.......could care less if it is YJ or Skywalkers or M&D (or any other club)........at showcases play the kids more that are not committed......


How about at championship tournaments
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/16/17 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The solution for the 2020s and 2019s is simple but perhaps unpalatable to money hungry club directors...split teams into "committed" and "uncommitted." The committed players can continue honing their skills, which is presumably why they continue to play club ball. The uncommitted players can focus on developing and showcasing. Place teams in brackets where they will be challenged because no college coach will value watching a blowout. Forget about the scores. Clubs will be evaluated by how well they do in positioning their players for the next level, not on any meaningless championship trophies.

Maybe clubs won't max out profits with this approach, but they would have a lot more satisfied customers.

I can dream, can't I?



Yeah ok.... Club lacrosse is the most corrupt money hungry group out there. They are so powerful they render US Lacrosse almost powerless


You are forgetting about another group out there that is now making a big move to get a slice of that pie. Have you noticed how many more college clinics and etc are going on. There are a handful of clinics or showcases now scheduled around the Florida money grab. Now, they will have 2 extra years to siphon money off of you and still cannot talk to you. Before, it was only primarily the commits or players being recruited to specific schools that were attending the camps and clinics after freshman year or so in high school. Has anyone else noticed this?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/16/17 01:56 PM

You are forgetting about another group out there that is now making a big move to get a slice of that pie. Have you noticed how many more college clinics and etc are going on. There are a handful of clinics or showcases now scheduled around the Florida money grab. Now, they will have 2 extra years to siphon money off of you and still cannot talk to you. Before, it was only primarily the commits or players being recruited to specific schools that were attending the camps and clinics after freshman year or so in high school. Has anyone else noticed this?

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You are spot on. College coaches are raking in money from camps and clinics.

However, let me make one contrast...

If you sign your kid up for a college camp/clinic, you are pretty well assured that she will be "seen" by a particular coach at a particular school your kid likes.

On the other hand, when you sign up for a club team and their tournaments, you are HOPING that the college coach your kid emailed will show up to watch her play AND that the club coach will put her on the field.

We'll only know on 9/1/2018 whether the choices we made for our daughters were the right ones. 289 days and counting...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/16/17 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The solution for the 2020s and 2019s is simple but perhaps unpalatable to money hungry club directors...split teams into "committed" and "uncommitted." The committed players can continue honing their skills, which is presumably why they continue to play club ball. The uncommitted players can focus on developing and showcasing. Place teams in brackets where they will be challenged because no college coach will value watching a blowout. Forget about the scores. Clubs will be evaluated by how well they do in positioning their players for the next level, not on any meaningless championship trophies.

Maybe clubs won't max out profits with this approach, but they would have a lot more satisfied customers.

I can dream, can't I?



Yeah ok.... Club lacrosse is the most corrupt money hungry group out there. They are so powerful they render US Lacrosse almost powerless


You are forgetting about another group out there that is now making a big move to get a slice of that pie. Have you noticed how many more college clinics and etc are going on. There are a handful of clinics or showcases now scheduled around the Florida money grab. Now, they will have 2 extra years to siphon money off of you and still cannot talk to you. Before, it was only primarily the commits or players being recruited to specific schools that were attending the camps and clinics after freshman year or so in high school. Has anyone else noticed this?



Couldn't agree more. The delay to junior year has these college coaches foaming at the mouth for the reasons you listed above. Most coaches are only making $40-$70k per year (outside of the top lacrosse programs). These camps and clinics are helping them line their pockets and increase their total comp. These coaches hated that they had to kiss the asses of club directors making twice what they made as a college coach
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/16/17 07:12 PM

I said at Showcases ........but i do think non committed players should get decent playing time still..... because at the end of the day nobody cares who wins a tournament 10 years ago.........and the best advertising for any club isnt just championships but more importantly.....how many kids get committed is more important
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/16/17 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I said at Showcases ........but i do think non committed players should get decent playing time still..... because at the end of the day nobody cares who wins a tournament 10 years ago.........and the best advertising for any club isnt just championships but more importantly.....how many kids get committed is more important


So there is no where for kids to go and play highly competitive games and learn that hard work pays off in this politically correct world .10 years from now no one is going to care what school your kid committed to play lacrosse .My kids have played multiple sports on travel teams and lacrosse is the only one where parents expect all kids to get equal playing time. If your kid is not getting the playing time you want them to get you have options ,move to another club,stay with the same club but move down to a lower team , or work harder.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/16/17 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I said at Showcases ........but i do think non committed players should get decent playing time still..... because at the end of the day nobody cares who wins a tournament 10 years ago.........and the best advertising for any club isnt just championships but more importantly.....how many kids get committed is more important


So there is no where for kids to go and play highly competitive games and learn that hard work pays off in this politically correct world .10 years from now no one is going to care what school your kid committed to play lacrosse .My kids have played multiple sports on travel teams and lacrosse is the only one where parents expect all kids to get equal playing time. If your kid is not getting the playing time you want them to get you have options ,move to another club,stay with the same club but move down to a lower team , or work harder.


I agree but I have a problem with these directors loading the rosters with 26 kids and then not playing them. If the kid is good enough to make the team, the kid should be good enough to play otherwise put 20 on the team and move #21-26 to another team. The director can't take the money and then not expect the valid criticism.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/16/17 08:45 PM

I kindly disagree.......more people are interested in kids getting committed to good colleges and getting great educations.......but if winning tournaments is the only thing that is important to you and your daughter...so be it ..... I am not judging. I am guessing every club would rather have all girls committed to go to college then a trophy....and if that isnt true....shame on that club. If there is a club that only cares about winning.....good for them....bad for the girls. you are right the girls can go somewhere else.... I don't disagree.

And i don't agree with equal playing time....the better girls get more time, that is they way it goes sometimes....but it is the clubs responsibility to get the non committed girls good playing time in showcases. But if the club would rather go 4-0 in a showcase and only play their committed players most......doesnt make much sense does it? After all, the college coaches could care less about them if they are already committed.

That being said....if you are playing in other tournaments and you want to win the trophy, as most teams want to, their best players see more time. But, hopefully that changes when a team goes to a showcase....if it doesnt then something is horribly wrong.

My initial post said showcases
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/16/17 08:48 PM

and more......at showcases....I think it is the committed players responsibility to let the non committed players shine in games....... that doesnt mean the committed players don't score ....it means they do less.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/16/17 08:49 PM

20 is plenty....26 is out of line

i agree
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/16/17 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
and more......at showcases....I think it is the committed players responsibility to let the non committed players shine in games....... that doesnt mean the committed players don't score ....it means they do less.


Respectfully disagree , if you are going to play they should play the right way not try to "do less". I also do not get why you would distinguish who should play "more" because one tourney is championship and the other is showcase.If you start with the idea that the main purpose of these travel teams is to get as many kids recruited as possible , you have college coaches at both types of tournaments , so why treat them differently. If your coach or club tells you the majority of playing time will go to the starters and you stay with that team knowing this it's on you . Still waiting to hear where kids who want to play competitive lacrosse both in terms of competing for your spot on a team and playing against other teams is supposed to go .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/17/17 01:00 AM

That is the question I want answered as well. If you are one of the stronger players, what do you do to get better, play competitive games and compete at a high level. Those kids participate in travel lacrosse for those reasons but when you have a roster of 24 and everyone is jockeying for commitments if makes for a terrible environment for all of the players. There is no reason to have rosters of that size - rather than have 3 teams of 24 players, have 4 teams of 18. Parents would even pay more to be part of a smaller roster.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/17/17 10:54 AM

i appreciate the response....there is a difference in showcases....showcases are for all the kids ....once they are committed, it becomes for the non committed to get time. Do you really think the college coaches want to watch a team full of committed players? I am not saying they don't play....that would be silly.....but the non committed players need to get good playing time. for the better players to get better.....they have options. They can play on an older team against older competition. wouldnt this be a better solution if you wanted your daughter (player) to get a better?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/17/17 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
20 is plenty....26 is out of line

i agree


Do the math. Look at how much it costs to register a team for tournaments - the costs are available. Add up the total costs of all the tournaments for the year for that team, add in the practice field costs, and all the expenses. Then look at how much it costs per girl to play. For a bunch of clubs out there - the first 18 cover the costs for the year. Anything after that generally goes to paying coaches - then the club owner's pockets. If you can get 26 parents to buy into paying the money to be on a team - why stop at 18?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/17/17 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
20 is plenty....26 is out of line

i agree


Do the math. Look at how much it costs to register a team for tournaments - the costs are available. Add up the total costs of all the tournaments for the year for that team, add in the practice field costs, and all the expenses. Then look at how much it costs per girl to play. For a bunch of clubs out there - the first 18 cover the costs for the year. Anything after that generally goes to paying coaches - then the club owner's pockets. If you can get 26 parents to buy into paying the money to be on a team - why stop at 18?



Finally someone looking at the math. Club lacrosse is about making money for these directors it isn't charity. Many of these clubs make $50-$100k just running tryouts. They are all very smart. They know up to 28 on a team is an absolute joke but they do it for the cash. They all know a dedicated team of 18 is all they need. East to sub, easy to have like ability kids, easy everything. 26-28 is good for only one thing making them rich. And most of these clubs don't pay their coaches much. Its all going in the directors pockets. I think that's why you are seeing the C and D teams disappearing. People know its an absolute scam. And don't forget that these same directors run the tournaments, direct their teams there and then double dip!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/17/17 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
20 is plenty....26 is out of line

i agree


Do the math. Look at how much it costs to register a team for tournaments - the costs are available. Add up the total costs of all the tournaments for the year for that team, add in the practice field costs, and all the expenses. Then look at how much it costs per girl to play. For a bunch of clubs out there - the first 18 cover the costs for the year. Anything after that generally goes to paying coaches - then the club owner's pockets. If you can get 26 parents to buy into paying the money to be on a team - why stop at 18?



Finally someone looking at the math. Club lacrosse is about making money for these directors it isn't charity. Many of these clubs make $50-$100k just running tryouts. They are all very smart. They know up to 28 on a team is an absolute joke but they do it for the cash. They all know a dedicated team of 18 is all they need. East to sub, easy to have like ability kids, easy everything. 26-28 is good for only one thing making them rich. And most of these clubs don't pay their coaches much. Its all going in the directors pockets. I think that's why you are seeing the C and D teams disappearing. People know its an absolute scam. And don't forget that these same directors run the tournaments, direct their teams there and then double dip!


And it will only get worse since the girls have an extra few years added to the "recruiting time". Extra time for the clubs to dangle that carrot in front of the parents.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/17/17 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
20 is plenty....26 is out of line

i agree


Do the math. Look at how much it costs to register a team for tournaments - the costs are available. Add up the total costs of all the tournaments for the year for that team, add in the practice field costs, and all the expenses. Then look at how much it costs per girl to play. For a bunch of clubs out there - the first 18 cover the costs for the year. Anything after that generally goes to paying coaches - then the club owner's pockets. If you can get 26 parents to buy into paying the money to be on a team - why stop at 18?



Finally someone looking at the math. Club lacrosse is about making money for these directors it isn't charity. Many of these clubs make $50-$100k just running tryouts. They are all very smart. They know up to 28 on a team is an absolute joke but they do it for the cash. They all know a dedicated team of 18 is all they need. East to sub, easy to have like ability kids, easy everything. 26-28 is good for only one thing making them rich. And most of these clubs don't pay their coaches much. Its all going in the directors pockets. I think that's why you are seeing the C and D teams disappearing. People know its an absolute scam. And don't forget that these same directors run the tournaments, direct their teams there and then double dip!


And it will only get worse since the girls have an extra few years added to the "recruiting time". Extra time for the clubs to dangle that carrot in front of the parents.



With the new paradigm you are nuts if you start playing travel lax before 7th grade, college coaches, who have their own agenda, have said as much
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/17/17 08:20 PM

If you are not getting better by playing travel lax (roster of 24-26) you are also nuts if you keep playing after being committed.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 04:18 PM

How was the President's Cup? how did your teams do?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 06:14 PM

[quote=Anonymous]How was the President's Cup? how did your teams do?[/quote

Nobody cares about the outcome of the games. My kid played great and was in front of 100's of coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 07:01 PM

lol ... i didnt ask for the outcomes ..... I asked how they did............answer could be "they played well, lots of coaches there".........
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
lol ... i didnt ask for the outcomes ..... I asked how they did............answer could be "they played well, lots of coaches there".........

or better yet......my daughter played well........or our team looked like crap......but my daughter was a stud
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
and more......at showcases....I think it is the committed players responsibility to let the non committed players shine in games....... that doesnt mean the committed players don't score ....it means they do less.

if the committed players parents are paying the same amount to attend showcase and hotels etc, then that player should get equal time. period. if the club wants the committed/better players there to help the uncommitted shine, then the club should waive the tournament fee for those players. But that will never happen, as it its always about the money. don't fool yourself
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are not getting better by playing travel lax (roster of 24-26) you are also nuts if you keep playing after being committed.
unfortunately thats incorrect. Even if a girls committed, they still need to play. A verbal isn't worth the paper its not written on. The college coaches come to see their commits play. at the same time, a commitment can be pulled. Then if you have stopped attending, your name is not still out there. Furthermore, there is always the possibility of another school being interested and making a better offer
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]How was the President's Cup? how did your teams do?[/quote

Nobody cares about the outcome of the games. My kid played great and was in front of 100's of coaches.


Which of the 100 colleges did your daughter decide on this weekend? Where will she be taking her talents?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are not getting better by playing travel lax (roster of 24-26) you are also nuts if you keep playing after being committed.
unfortunately thats incorrect. Even if a girls committed, they still need to play. A verbal isn't worth the paper its not written on. The college coaches come to see their commits play. at the same time, a commitment can be pulled. Then if you have stopped attending, your name is not still out there. Furthermore, there is always the possibility of another school being interested and making a better offer


Please tell us the coach that did not honor the verbal agreement they made with a player and not the usual "I heard" of a kid nonsense.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are not getting better by playing travel lax (roster of 24-26) you are also nuts if you keep playing after being committed.
unfortunately thats incorrect. Even if a girls committed, they still need to play. A verbal isn't worth the paper its not written on. The college coaches come to see their commits play. at the same time, a commitment can be pulled. Then if you have stopped attending, your name is not still out there. Furthermore, there is always the possibility of another school being interested and making a better offer


Please tell us the coach that did not honor the verbal agreement they made with a player and not the usual "I heard" of a kid nonsense.
mochigan fired their coach and new coach did not honor verbals. Don't think it doesn't happen
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are not getting better by playing travel lax (roster of 24-26) you are also nuts if you keep playing after being committed.
unfortunately thats incorrect. Even if a girls committed, they still need to play. A verbal isn't worth the paper its not written on. The college coaches come to see their commits play. at the same time, a commitment can be pulled. Then if you have stopped attending, your name is not still out there. Furthermore, there is always the possibility of another school being interested and making a better offer


Please tell us the coach that did not honor the verbal agreement they made with a player and not the usual "I heard" of a kid nonsense.

i heard of a guy that heard of a kid.........
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are not getting better by playing travel lax (roster of 24-26) you are also nuts if you keep playing after being committed.
unfortunately thats incorrect. Even if a girls committed, they still need to play. A verbal isn't worth the paper its not written on. The college coaches come to see their commits play. at the same time, a commitment can be pulled. Then if you have stopped attending, your name is not still out there. Furthermore, there is always the possibility of another school being interested and making a better offer


Please tell us the coach that did not honor the verbal agreement they made with a player and not the usual "I heard" of a kid nonsense.
mochigan fired their coach and new coach did not honor verbals. Don't think it doesn't happen

is that near Michigan? Never heard of it.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
and more......at showcases....I think it is the committed players responsibility to let the non committed players shine in games....... that doesnt mean the committed players don't score ....it means they do less.

if the committed players parents are paying the same amount to attend showcase and hotels etc, then that player should get equal time. period. if the club wants the committed/better players there to help the uncommitted shine, then the club should waive the tournament fee for those players. But that will never happen, as it its always about the money. don't fool yourself

I agree...... they should get playing time.......at showcases.....should be equal......I don't disagree
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]How was the President's Cup? how did your teams do?[/quote

Nobody cares about the outcome of the games. My kid played great and was in front of 100's of coaches.


Which of the 100 colleges did your daughter decide on this weekend? Where will she be taking her talents?

my daughter held court and coaches had to sign up for appt times..........dab
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are not getting better by playing travel lax (roster of 24-26) you are also nuts if you keep playing after being committed.
unfortunately thats incorrect. Even if a girls committed, they still need to play. A verbal isn't worth the paper its not written on. The college coaches come to see their commits play. at the same time, a commitment can be pulled. Then if you have stopped attending, your name is not still out there. Furthermore, there is always the possibility of another school being interested and making a better offer


Please tell us the coach that did not honor the verbal agreement they made with a player and not the usual "I heard" of a kid nonsense.
mochigan fired their coach and new coach did not honor verbals. Don't think it doesn't happen

anyone that thinks Verbal Commits aren't ever broken then ......dont know what to tell you.........
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 10:51 PM

I heard Bucknell did same as well.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are not getting better by playing travel lax (roster of 24-26) you are also nuts if you keep playing after being committed.
unfortunately thats incorrect. Even if a girls committed, they still need to play. A verbal isn't worth the paper its not written on. The college coaches come to see their commits play. at the same time, a commitment can be pulled. Then if you have stopped attending, your name is not still out there. Furthermore, there is always the possibility of another school being interested and making a better offer


Please tell us the coach that did not honor the verbal agreement they made with a player and not the usual "I heard" of a kid nonsense.
mochigan fired their coach and new coach did not honor verbals. Don't think it doesn't happen

I said the verbal agreement they made not that someone else made, just does not happen . Just because no one wanted your kid enough to make a verbal does not mean you have to spread [lacrosse] rumors.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/20/17 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are not getting better by playing travel lax (roster of 24-26) you are also nuts if you keep playing after being committed.
unfortunately thats incorrect. Even if a girls committed, they still need to play. A verbal isn't worth the paper its not written on. The college coaches come to see their commits play. at the same time, a commitment can be pulled. Then if you have stopped attending, your name is not still out there. Furthermore, there is always the possibility of another school being interested and making a better offer


Please tell us the coach that did not honor the verbal agreement they made with a player and not the usual "I heard" of a kid nonsense.
mochigan fired their coach and new coach did not honor verbals. Don't think it doesn't happen

I said the verbal agreement they made not that someone else made, just does not happen . Just because no one wanted your kid enough to make a verbal does not mean you have to spread [lacrosse] rumors.

So you think all verbal commits are honored?
Posted By: Powderfinger

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you are not getting better by playing travel lax (roster of 24-26) you are also nuts if you keep playing after being committed.
unfortunately thats incorrect. Even if a girls committed, they still need to play. A verbal isn't worth the paper its not written on. The college coaches come to see their commits play. at the same time, a commitment can be pulled. Then if you have stopped attending, your name is not still out there. Furthermore, there is always the possibility of another school being interested and making a better offer


Please tell us the coach that did not honor the verbal agreement they made with a player and not the usual "I heard" of a kid nonsense.
mochigan fired their coach and new coach did not honor verbals. Don't think it doesn't happen

I said the verbal agreement they made not that someone else made, just does not happen . Just because no one wanted your kid enough to make a verbal does not mean you have to spread [lacrosse] rumors.

So you think all verbal commits are honored?


Verbals have been pulled when the kid's academics don't cut it.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 01:53 AM



Please tell us the coach that did not honor the verbal agreement they made with a player and not the usual "I heard" of a kid nonsense.
[/quote]mochigan fired their coach and new coach did not honor verbals. Don't think it doesn't happen
[/quote]
I said the verbal agreement they made not that someone else made, just does not happen . Just because no one wanted your kid enough to make a verbal does not mean you have to spread [lacrosse] rumors.[/quote]
So you think all verbal commits are honored?[/quote]

Verbals have been pulled when the kid's academics don't cut it.[/quote]

Again that means the player has broken the verbal most times. In general most verbals are given with some basic benchmarks that need to be met ie. gpa in a range ; sat in a range , stay out of trouble ; don’t be an [lacrosse] on social media etc. I have been around girls lacrosse a long time and have not heard of a coach rescinding on their verbal .Has it ever happened ,probably,but acting like a verbal means nothing usually comes from someone who is just bitter their kid does not have one. If you know of coaches who have done it let’s hear who.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous


Please tell us the coach that did not honor the verbal agreement they made with a player and not the usual "I heard" of a kid nonsense.
mochigan fired their coach and new coach did not honor verbals. Don't think it doesn't happen
[/quote]
I said the verbal agreement they made not that someone else made, just does not happen . Just because no one wanted your kid enough to make a verbal does not mean you have to spread [lacrosse] rumors.[/quote]
So you think all verbal commits are honored?[/quote]

Verbals have been pulled when the kid's academics don't cut it.[/quote]

Again that means the player has broken the verbal most times. In general most verbals are given with some basic benchmarks that need to be met ie. gpa in a range ; sat in a range , stay out of trouble ; don’t be an [lacrosse] on social media etc. I have been around girls lacrosse a long time and have not heard of a coach rescinding on their verbal .Has it ever happened ,probably,but acting like a verbal means nothing usually comes from someone who is just bitter their kid does not have one. If you know of coaches who have done it let’s hear who.[/quote]

All i asked if you think all verbals are honored........I didnt say they didnt mean anything......they mean the college/university sees your daughter at the institution......but that can change for a variety of reasons.......whether you agree of disagree is unimoirtant....the fact is not all verbals are honored..... for one reason or another.


Maybe they committed to the kid at too young of an age,,,,and saw what an [lacrosse] they have become....or now they are a pothead...... or of various other reasons......it happens with all sports in college.......
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 03:23 AM

do you honestly think that if a coach leaves and/or gets fired, that the new coach automatically keeps the commits from the prior coach??
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
do you honestly think that if a coach leaves and/or gets fired, that the new coach automatically keeps the commits from the prior coach??



He is not talking about if a coach leaves or gets fired.

But I agree with you personally.

If a kid gains 15lbs and the coach sees it, the scholarship will be taken away.

If a coach gets a better player to come in your position, the coach will take it away and so on and so on ....


Doesn’t matter whether I can name an instance of whether it has happened or not. It happens ..... I am not saying a lot. But if I came up with a statistic, I would say 15-20% of verbal commits are taken away by the active coach ....either because someone better came along or they realized this kid just isn’t what we thought she would become. Either way it doesn’t matter....what the reason is. A verbal commitment is meaningless until the contract is signed.

With the new rule of recruiting, it is a lot better for the players and the coaches. They can actually see more of the player and personality and the kid can make a better decision on whether going to a certain school.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
do you honestly think that if a coach leaves and/or gets fired, that the new coach automatically keeps the commits from the prior coach??



He is not talking about if a coach leaves or gets fired.

But I agree with you personally.

If a kid gains 15lbs and the coach sees it, the scholarship will be taken away.

If a coach gets a better player to come in your position, the coach will take it away and so on and so on ....


Doesn’t matter whether I can name an instance of whether it has happened or not. It happens ..... I am not saying a lot. But if I came up with a statistic, I would say 15-20% of verbal commits are taken away by the active coach ....either because someone better came along or they realized this kid just isn’t what we thought she would become. Either way it doesn’t matter....what the reason is. A verbal commitment is meaningless until the contract is signed.

With the new rule of recruiting, it is a lot better for the players and the coaches. They can actually see more of the player and personality and the kid can make a better decision on whether going to a certain school.




Yup, the coaches love the new rules. They get two extra years of large numbers of camp attendees as opposed to just the commits and uninformed after freshman year.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 02:45 PM

You people seem desperate. First you have the poster asking if a coach has ever gone back on their verbal as if this would make all existing verbals worthless.Then you have the clown reporting fake statistics of 15-20 percent when he cannot name one single instance of it ever happening. Now you have the other ill informed poster saying if a kid gains 20 lbs the verbal is gone, I can name multiple coaches who have honored their verbal commitment when a player has gained weight, blown out a knee, blown out the other knee, blown out the same knee again, had a kid get kicked out of school, had a kid get arrested and on and on. These players that they have honored their verbals with are not even the top of the food chain , these coaches include. NW, PSU,UNC, Cuse, MD, UVA, Duke.They honored these verbals when they easily could have said sorry you did not hold up your end of the bargain. Again you have not named one coach or one instance of them pulling their verbal . We get it your kid did not commit somewhere because " you wanted to wait and verbals mean nothing", sure.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people seem desperate. First you have the poster asking if a coach has ever gone back on their verbal as if this would make all existing verbals worthless.Then you have the clown reporting fake statistics of 15-20 percent when he cannot name one single instance of it ever happening. Now you have the other ill informed poster saying if a kid gains 20 lbs the verbal is gone, I can name multiple coaches who have honored their verbal commitment when a player has gained weight, blown out a knee, blown out the other knee, blown out the same knee again, had a kid get kicked out of school, had a kid get arrested and on and on. These players that they have honored their verbals with are not even the top of the food chain , these coaches include. NW, PSU,UNC, Cuse, MD, UVA, Duke.They honored these verbals when they easily could have said sorry you did not hold up your end of the bargain. Again you have not named one coach or one instance of them pulling their verbal . We get it your kid did not commit somewhere because " you wanted to wait and verbals mean nothing", sure.


Verbals mean nothing. Until the LI is signed, a verbal is nothing more than a “let’s hope it all works out”
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people seem desperate. First you have the poster asking if a coach has ever gone back on their verbal as if this would make all existing verbals worthless.Then you have the clown reporting fake statistics of 15-20 percent when he cannot name one single instance of it ever happening. Now you have the other ill informed poster saying if a kid gains 20 lbs the verbal is gone, I can name multiple coaches who have honored their verbal commitment when a player has gained weight, blown out a knee, blown out the other knee, blown out the same knee again, had a kid get kicked out of school, had a kid get arrested and on and on. These players that they have honored their verbals with are not even the top of the food chain , these coaches include. NW, PSU,UNC, Cuse, MD, UVA, Duke.They honored these verbals when they easily could have said sorry you did not hold up your end of the bargain. Again you have not named one coach or one instance of them pulling their verbal . We get it your kid did not commit somewhere because " you wanted to wait and verbals mean nothing", sure.


Verbals mean nothing. Until the LI is signed, a verbal is nothing more than a “let’s hope it all works out”


And yet that's how every single commitment starts! At least all the priority recruiting gets done exactly like that. So in essence it mean everything, unless you don't get one, then yes it means nothing.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 03:43 PM

The coaches reputation is on the line - that is why they are extremely reluctant to de-commit a player. I have been around girls lacrosse for a long time and I do not know of anyone losing their verbal commitment and that includes lots of girls getting injured. gaining weight and not improving as players etc. The original post that started this silly talk said "why continue to play travel lax if you have a roster of 24-26 and it is not helping you get better". There are better ways to improve your lax ability - 7v7's, 5v5's, stick work training, speed and conditioning, even playing other sports etc. In my experience college coaches do not care if you continue to play travel lacrosse once you are committed.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 04:15 PM

What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year there is a much better chance the coach that recruits your daughter will still be there.

From experience, coaches almost always honor the commits they inherit but then find ways to get out of and push or force inherited players out of the program to free up those scholarship slots year 2 and 3. They make it miserable for girls they don't want around
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people seem desperate. First you have the poster asking if a coach has ever gone back on their verbal as if this would make all existing verbals worthless.Then you have the clown reporting fake statistics of 15-20 percent when he cannot name one single instance of it ever happening. Now you have the other ill informed poster saying if a kid gains 20 lbs the verbal is gone, I can name multiple coaches who have honored their verbal commitment when a player has gained weight, blown out a knee, blown out the other knee, blown out the same knee again, had a kid get kicked out of school, had a kid get arrested and on and on. These players that they have honored their verbals with are not even the top of the food chain , these coaches include. NW, PSU,UNC, Cuse, MD, UVA, Duke.They honored these verbals when they easily could have said sorry you did not hold up your end of the bargain. Again you have not named one coach or one instance of them pulling their verbal . We get it your kid did not commit somewhere because " you wanted to wait and verbals mean nothing", sure.


Verbals mean nothing. Until the LI is signed, a verbal is nothing more than a “let’s hope it all works out”


This is so precious - it really made my day to see how people are so unenlightened when it comes to this recruiting game. I have a feeling that you must be a used car salesman or a timeshare pitchman since you put so little value on a person's word or credibility. It is also fairly obvious that this is your first kid through the process and it's not working out well for them. But, don't worry, in case you missed it - nobody is going to be talking to your kid for a few more months. And don't believe the people when they say that their daughter did a triple secret wink, wink, commitment and then were dropped. If I believed every single one of those parents then that mean Levy and Reese would be dropping about a dozen commits every year.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people seem desperate. First you have the poster asking if a coach has ever gone back on their verbal as if this would make all existing verbals worthless.Then you have the clown reporting fake statistics of 15-20 percent when he cannot name one single instance of it ever happening. Now you have the other ill informed poster saying if a kid gains 20 lbs the verbal is gone, I can name multiple coaches who have honored their verbal commitment when a player has gained weight, blown out a knee, blown out the other knee, blown out the same knee again, had a kid get kicked out of school, had a kid get arrested and on and on. These players that they have honored their verbals with are not even the top of the food chain , these coaches include. NW, PSU,UNC, Cuse, MD, UVA, Duke.They honored these verbals when they easily could have said sorry you did not hold up your end of the bargain. Again you have not named one coach or one instance of them pulling their verbal . We get it your kid did not commit somewhere because " you wanted to wait and verbals mean nothing", sure.


http://www.diycollegerankings.com/need-know-verbal-commitments/6296/
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people seem desperate. First you have the poster asking if a coach has ever gone back on their verbal as if this would make all existing verbals worthless.Then you have the clown reporting fake statistics of 15-20 percent when he cannot name one single instance of it ever happening. Now you have the other ill informed poster saying if a kid gains 20 lbs the verbal is gone, I can name multiple coaches who have honored their verbal commitment when a player has gained weight, blown out a knee, blown out the other knee, blown out the same knee again, had a kid get kicked out of school, had a kid get arrested and on and on. These players that they have honored their verbals with are not even the top of the food chain , these coaches include. NW, PSU,UNC, Cuse, MD, UVA, Duke.They honored these verbals when they easily could have said sorry you did not hold up your end of the bargain. Again you have not named one coach or one instance of them pulling their verbal . We get it your kid did not commit somewhere because " you wanted to wait and verbals mean nothing", sure.


Verbals mean nothing. Until the LI is signed, a verbal is nothing more than a “let’s hope it all works out”

correct......
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people seem desperate. First you have the poster asking if a coach has ever gone back on their verbal as if this would make all existing verbals worthless.Then you have the clown reporting fake statistics of 15-20 percent when he cannot name one single instance of it ever happening. Now you have the other ill informed poster saying if a kid gains 20 lbs the verbal is gone, I can name multiple coaches who have honored their verbal commitment when a player has gained weight, blown out a knee, blown out the other knee, blown out the same knee again, had a kid get kicked out of school, had a kid get arrested and on and on. These players that they have honored their verbals with are not even the top of the food chain , these coaches include. NW, PSU,UNC, Cuse, MD, UVA, Duke.They honored these verbals when they easily could have said sorry you did not hold up your end of the bargain. Again you have not named one coach or one instance of them pulling their verbal . We get it your kid did not commit somewhere because " you wanted to wait and verbals mean nothing", sure.


Verbals mean nothing. Until the LI is signed, a verbal is nothing more than a “let’s hope it all works out”


And yet that's how every single commitment starts! At least all the priority recruiting gets done exactly like that. So in essence it mean everything, unless you don't get one, then yes it means nothing.

It means what it means ...........I knew a kid Jake V. is A D1 football player plays Tight end at UNC.......originally he had verbal commit from Michigan but they (the school) backed away for no apparent reason........it happens....that's all
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people seem desperate. First you have the poster asking if a coach has ever gone back on their verbal as if this would make all existing verbals worthless.Then you have the clown reporting fake statistics of 15-20 percent when he cannot name one single instance of it ever happening. Now you have the other ill informed poster saying if a kid gains 20 lbs the verbal is gone, I can name multiple coaches who have honored their verbal commitment when a player has gained weight, blown out a knee, blown out the other knee, blown out the same knee again, had a kid get kicked out of school, had a kid get arrested and on and on. These players that they have honored their verbals with are not even the top of the food chain , these coaches include. NW, PSU,UNC, Cuse, MD, UVA, Duke.They honored these verbals when they easily could have said sorry you did not hold up your end of the bargain. Again you have not named one coach or one instance of them pulling their verbal . We get it your kid did not commit somewhere because " you wanted to wait and verbals mean nothing", sure.


Verbals mean nothing. Until the LI is signed, a verbal is nothing more than a “let’s hope it all works out”


And yet that's how every single commitment starts! At least all the priority recruiting gets done exactly like that. So in essence it mean everything, unless you don't get one, then yes it means nothing.

It means what it means ...........I knew a kid Jake V. is A D1 football player plays Tight end at UNC.......originally he had verbal commit from Michigan but they (the school) backed away for no apparent reason........it happens....that's all


from USAToday April 2017

Does a verbal commitment guarantee a scholarship?

Verbal commitments do not guarantee a scholarship, as they are unofficial verbal contracts between the athlete and coach. The NCAA does not recognize or even track verbal commitments between athletes and colleges. The only time an athlete can officially commit to a college is during the signing period, when they sign their national letter of intent. Any story you see of an athlete getting an offer or committing to a school before the signing period their senior year is unofficial.

Does a college have to honor a verbal commitment?

The short answer is no, but it is very uncommon for a school to just pull their offer. That said, there have been athletes who committed to a school, and when signing day came, they didn’t end up receiving an official offer. Here are a few of the common scenarios in which that might happen:

There is a coaching change – When there is a coaching change at a school, it is up to the incoming coach to decide whether they want to honor the verbal commitments of the previous coach or not.
The school has a history of oversigning – While the NCAA is cracking down on the practice of over-signing, a school can sign more athletes than they need on their team.
There was never actually a verbal offer made – Occasionally, there are stories of athletes who were confused about the nature of their recruitment from a particular school, and they mistook general recruiting interest as a verbal commitment, without actually being extended an offer.
Why do athletes verbally commit to a college?

Athletes commit to colleges early because it can simplify their recruiting process. By making an early commitment, athletes signify to other coaches and their peers they are done looking at potential schools. For most sports, this means college coaches will stop recruiting them, and they can focus on finishing out their high school career without worrying about the recruiting process.

Another reason an athlete might commit to a school is because the coach has extended an offer and given them a limited amount of time to accept. For example, coaches might say, “I would like to offer you a scholarship, and I need to know if you will accept in the next two weeks.” Coaches do this because they are under pressure to lock down recruits ahead of other programs.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people seem desperate. First you have the poster asking if a coach has ever gone back on their verbal as if this would make all existing verbals worthless.Then you have the clown reporting fake statistics of 15-20 percent when he cannot name one single instance of it ever happening. Now you have the other ill informed poster saying if a kid gains 20 lbs the verbal is gone, I can name multiple coaches who have honored their verbal commitment when a player has gained weight, blown out a knee, blown out the other knee, blown out the same knee again, had a kid get kicked out of school, had a kid get arrested and on and on. These players that they have honored their verbals with are not even the top of the food chain , these coaches include. NW, PSU,UNC, Cuse, MD, UVA, Duke.They honored these verbals when they easily could have said sorry you did not hold up your end of the bargain. Again you have not named one coach or one instance of them pulling their verbal . We get it your kid did not commit somewhere because " you wanted to wait and verbals mean nothing", sure.


http://www.diycollegerankings.com/need-know-verbal-commitments/6296/



Coaches can also withdraw their commitments, but there are a few reasons that they would stay loyal to a recruit they offered a scholarship to:
•The PR of withdrawing a spot from a committed player is tough to overcome, especially with the athlete’s high school. It may take a college coach a long time to heal that wound.
•Other college coaches might use it against them as long as it is effective, saying that a player can’t trust the coach’s word, which is huge in recruiting.

For many coaches, when they offer a scholarship, nothing short of legal problems, a major violation of high school rules or academic failures would be cause for rescinding a committed player’s scholarship. Open communication with a coach or program is the best way to avoid any unpleasant surprises… on either end!

The above is from the same website. it just does not happen especially in girls lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 06:59 PM

If you and your daughter put as much effort into their academics as you do on your forum posts, y'all be just fine.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
If you and your daughter put as much effort into their academics as you do on your forum posts, y'all be just fine.

lol
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year there is a much better chance the coach that recruits your daughter will still be there.

From experience, coaches almost always honor the commits they inherit but then find ways to get out of and push or force inherited players out of the program to free up those scholarship slots year 2 and 3. They make it miserable for girls they don't want around


Verbals are honored and then they make you hate it if they want you gone
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/21/17 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year there is a much better chance the coach that recruits your daughter will still be there.

From experience, coaches almost always honor the commits they inherit but then find ways to get out of and push or force inherited players out of the program to free up those scholarship slots year 2 and 3. They make it miserable for girls they don't want around


Not all scholarships are guaranteed for four years, plenty of schools it changes from year to year
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year there is a much better chance the coach that recruits your daughter will still be there.

From experience, coaches almost always honor the commits they inherit but then find ways to get out of and push or force inherited players out of the program to free up those scholarship slots year 2 and 3. They make it miserable for girls they don't want around


Not all scholarships are guaranteed for four years, plenty of schools it changes from year to year


Scholarships are year to year ....... you are correct.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year there is a much better chance the coach that recruits your daughter will still be there.

From experience, coaches almost always honor the commits they inherit but then find ways to get out of and push or force inherited players out of the program to free up those scholarship slots year 2

and 3. They make it miserable for girls they don't want around


Not all scholarships are guaranteed for four years, plenty of schools it changes from year to year


Scholarships are year to year ....... you are correct.


Some are some are not .Have never heard of the let's make life miserable thing , again let's hear the coaches who have supposedly done this .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year there is a much better chance the coach that recruits your daughter will still be there.

From experience, coaches almost always honor the commits they inherit but then find ways to get out of and push or force inherited players out of the program to free up those scholarship slots year 2

and 3. They make it miserable for girls they don't want around


Not all scholarships are guaranteed for four years, plenty of schools it changes from year to year


Scholarships are year to year ....... you are correct.


Some are some are not .Have never heard of the let's make life miserable thing , again let's hear the coaches who have supposedly done this .


All athletic scholarships are year to year
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 05:05 PM

"All athletic scholarships are year to year"

Why post if you have no idea what you are talking about. You are either just trying to scare people or just completely ignorant .Some scholarships are guaranteed for all 4 years and it is spelled out in their NLI and is something you should have discussed with your future coach.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
"All athletic scholarships are year to year"

Why post if you have no idea what you are talking about. You are either just trying to scare people or just completely ignorant .Some scholarships are guaranteed for all 4 years and it is spelled out in their NLI and is something you should have discussed with your future coach.



“It really is not an issue either way, though,” Saban said. “A player’s on a one-year scholarship and it’s automatically renewable. It’s not like you can just take it away. And if he’s on a four-year scholarship and does something in violation of university policy or athletic policy, you can still take it away. It really is insignificant.”
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"All athletic scholarships are year to year"

Why post if you have no idea what you are talking about. You are either just trying to scare people or just completely ignorant .Some scholarships are guaranteed for all 4 years and it is spelled out in their NLI and is something you should have discussed with your future coach.



“It really is not an issue either way, though,” Saban said. “A player’s on a one-year scholarship and it’s automatically renewable. It’s not like you can just take it away. And if he’s on a four-year scholarship and does something in violation of university policy or athletic policy, you can still take it away. It really is insignificant.”


Your point being ?? Yes any scholarship can be taken away for a violation of university policy etc even a one year scholarship can be taken away at any time if the player does not live up to their obligations ie GPA etc. The point is that many schools are guaranteeing the scholarship for all 4 years if you stay within the guidelines and this is something you should ask about when an offer is made not when you arrive on campus.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"All athletic scholarships are year to year"

Why post if you have no idea what you are talking about. You are either just trying to scare people or just completely ignorant .Some scholarships are guaranteed for all 4 years and it is spelled out in their NLI and is something you should have discussed with your future coach.



“It really is not an issue either way, though,” Saban said. “A player’s on a one-year scholarship and it’s automatically renewable. It’s not like you can just take it away. And if he’s on a four-year scholarship and does something in violation of university policy or athletic policy, you can still take it away. It really is insignificant.”


Your point being ?? Yes any scholarship can be taken away for a violation of university policy etc even a one year scholarship can be taken away at any time if the player does not live up to their obligations ie GPA etc. The point is that many schools are guaranteeing the scholarship for all 4 years if you stay within the guidelines and this is something you should ask about when an offer is made not when you arrive on campus.


That is just my point .........it is not guarunteed.......guarunteed means guarunteed no matter what.......I agree though that most are honored because most kids are good kids and follow the guidelines.....that's all.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year there is a much better chance the coach that recruits your daughter will still be there.

From experience, coaches almost always honor the commits they inherit but then find ways to get out of and push or force inherited players out of the program to free up those scholarship slots year 2

and 3. They make it miserable for girls they don't want around


Not all scholarships are guaranteed for four years, plenty of schools it changes from year to year


Scholarships are year to year ....... you are correct.


Some are some are not .Have never heard of the let's make life miserable thing , again let's hear the coaches who have supposedly done this .


All athletic scholarships are year to year


Wrong. They can be year to year and they can be for the four. It is a contract, tell them the terms you need. If they really want you they will meet your demands. And yes they will meet four year demands if they are confident you are a can't miss pick. And yes all these terms should be spelled out in the verbal negotiation. Take detailed notes for reference and go over them with coach to make sure you are on the same page when it comes time to nail it down later. And to another poster, when a coach over extends on the scholarship and the athelete under performs, they will honor the commitment, and yes it often becomes a ugly, miserable position for a player to be in, with the coach hoping the player bails. I have seen this many times and players often transfer or just stop playing and have to take out additional loans to replace the scholarship money and finish the basket weaving major at an overpriced school. Incredible amount of stress to perform on these student athletes.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"All athletic scholarships are year to year"

Why post if you have no idea what you are talking about. You are either just trying to scare people or just completely ignorant .Some scholarships are guaranteed for all 4 years and it is spelled out in their NLI and is something you should have discussed with your future coach.



“It really is not an issue either way, though,” Saban said. “A player’s on a one-year scholarship and it’s automatically renewable. It’s not like you can just take it away. And if he’s on a four-year scholarship and does something in violation of university policy or athletic policy, you can still take it away. It really is insignificant.”


Your point being ?? Yes any scholarship can be taken away for a violation of university policy etc even a one year scholarship can be taken away at any time if the player does not live up to their obligations ie GPA etc. The point is that many schools are guaranteeing the scholarship for all 4 years if you stay within the guidelines and this is something you should ask about when an offer is made not when you arrive on campus.


That is just my point .........it is not guarunteed.......guarunteed means guarunteed no matter what.......I agree though that most are honored because most kids are good kids and follow the guidelines.....that's all.


Thanks for that eye opening bit of nonsense. There is not one parent that thinks their kid can never go to class, fail every test, drug test etc. and keep their scholarship . So it seems your point was to waste everyones time. When you said all scholarships are year to year you obviously were clueless, now that you realize you should have asked the coach before little Susie committed it seems like you want to act like it does not matter.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year there is a much better chance the coach that recruits your daughter will still be there.

From experience, coaches almost always honor the commits they inherit but then find ways to get out of and push or force inherited players out of the program to free up those scholarship slots year 2

and 3. They make it miserable for girls they don't want around


Not all scholarships are guaranteed for four years, plenty of schools it changes from year to year


Scholarships are year to year ....... you are correct.


Some are some are not .Have never heard of the let's make life miserable thing , again let's hear the coaches who have supposedly done this .


All athletic scholarships are year to year


Wrong. They can be year to year and they can be for the four. It is a contract, tell them the terms you need. If they really want you they will meet your demands. And yes they will meet four year demands if they are confident you are a can't miss pick. And yes all these terms should be spelled out in the verbal negotiation. Take detailed notes for reference and go over them with coach to make sure you are on the same page when it comes time to nail it down later. And to another poster, when a coach over extends on the scholarship and the athelete under performs, they will honor the commitment, and yes it often becomes a ugly, miserable position for a player to be in, with the coach hoping the player bails. I have seen this many times and players often transfer or just stop playing and have to take out additional loans to replace the scholarship money and finish the basket weaving major at an overpriced school. Incredible amount of stress to perform on these student athletes.


thanks
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"All athletic scholarships are year to year"

Why post if you have no idea what you are talking about. You are either just trying to scare people or just completely ignorant .Some scholarships are guaranteed for all 4 years and it is spelled out in their NLI and is something you should have discussed with your future coach.



“It really is not an issue either way, though,” Saban said. “A player’s on a one-year scholarship and it’s automatically renewable. It’s not like you can just take it away. And if he’s on a four-year scholarship and does something in violation of university policy or athletic policy, you can still take it away. It really is insignificant.”


Your point being ?? Yes any scholarship can be taken away for a violation of university policy etc even a one year scholarship can be taken away at any time if the player does not live up to their obligations ie GPA etc. The point is that many schools are guaranteeing the scholarship for all 4 years if you stay within the guidelines and this is something you should ask about when an offer is made not when you arrive on campus.


That is just my point .........it is not guarunteed.......guarunteed means guarunteed no matter what.......I agree though that most are honored because most kids are good kids and follow the guidelines.....that's all.


Thanks for that eye opening bit of nonsense. There is not one parent that thinks their kid can never go to class, fail every test, drug test etc. and keep their scholarship . So it seems your point was to waste everyones time. When you said all scholarships are year to year you obviously were clueless, now that you realize you should have asked the coach before little Susie committed it seems like you want to act like it does not matter.


You assume way to much ......
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
"All athletic scholarships are year to year"

Why post if you have no idea what you are talking about. You are either just trying to scare people or just completely ignorant .Some scholarships are guaranteed for all 4 years and it is spelled out in their NLI and is something you should have discussed with your future coach.



I don't think anyone is getting scared because of this persons posts. I think we all understand that scholarships are guaranteed if the college athlete fulfills his/her end of the bargain. From what I am reading from this person.....who posts it is common sense that they are not guaranteed if the athlete is an issue for one of various reasons....
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year there is a much better chance the coach that recruits your daughter will still be there.

From experience, coaches almost always honor the commits they inherit but then find ways to get out of and push or force inherited players out of the program to free up those scholarship slots year 2

and 3. They make it miserable for girls they don't want around


Not all scholarships are guaranteed for four years, plenty of schools it changes from year to year


Scholarships are year to year ....... you are correct.


Some are some are not .Have never heard of the let's make life miserable thing , again let's hear the coaches who have supposedly done this .


All athletic scholarships are year to year


This may be true on one level. We had many offers outlining each of the four years of partial scholarships with the open end of adding additional based on performance. But the minimum was guaranteed. It has to be, how else can you plan?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year there is a much better chance the coach that recruits your daughter will still be there.

From experience, coaches almost always honor the commits they inherit but then find ways to get out of and push or force inherited players out of the program to free up those scholarship slots year 2

and 3. They make it miserable for girls they don't want around


Not all scholarships are guaranteed for four years, plenty of schools it changes from year to year


Scholarships are year to year ....... you are correct.


Some are some are not .Have never heard of the let's make life miserable thing , again let's hear the coaches who have supposedly done this .


All athletic scholarships are year to year


This may be true on one level. We had many offers outlining each of the four years of partial scholarships with the open end of adding additional based on performance. But the minimum was guaranteed. It has to be, how else can you plan?


great post
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 09:53 PM

You are wrong! Athletic Scholarships are not year to year at all schools. Big ten guarantees in writing the Athletic Scholarship for 4 years. Clearly, this is your first rodeo.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are wrong! Athletic Scholarships are not year to year at all schools. Big ten guarantees in writing the Athletic Scholarship for 4 years. Clearly, this is your first rodeo.


I guess Nick Saban hasnt been to the rodeo either.......

“It really is not an issue either way, though,” Saban said. “A player’s on a one-year scholarship and it’s automatically renewable. It’s not like you can just take it away. And if he’s on a four-year scholarship and does something in violation of university policy or athletic policy, you can still take it away. It really is insignificant.”
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 10:55 PM

That is correct, have a son at a B1G School on scholarship, not a lax player. Signed a B1G Letter of intent as well as for the school. Indiana was the first school to make this policy and rest of conference followed.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct, have a son at a B1G School on scholarship, not a lax player. Signed a B1G Letter of intent as well as for the school. Indiana was the first school to make this policy and rest of conference followed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
That is correct, have a son at a B1G School on scholarship, not a lax player. Signed a B1G Letter of intent as well as for the school. Indiana was the first school to make this policy and rest of conference followed.


Sounds good. Let’s move on
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/22/17 11:32 PM

Yes you are correct a school can offer 4 yr scholarships but they are virtually non existent, especially in Lacrosse . So I will stick to may post that they are year to year.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/23/17 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are wrong! Athletic Scholarships are not year to year at all schools. Big ten guarantees in writing the Athletic Scholarship for 4 years. Clearly, this is your first rodeo.


I guess Nick Saban hasnt been to the rodeo either.......

“It really is not an issue either way, though,” Saban said. “A player’s on a one-year scholarship and it’s automatically renewable. It’s not like you can just take it away. And if he’s on a four-year scholarship and does something in violation of university policy or athletic policy, you can still take it away. It really is insignificant.”


It’s actually very significant. It’s extremely rare for a kid to lose their scholarship. If they do, it’s because they probably just don’t want to play anymore. I have two at a big ten, and there scholarships are secure for the 4years. This is a big bonus and relief for us as we don’t have to worry about the scholarship changing. You are a dope to think otherwise.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/23/17 12:44 AM

Mine is in year 4 of a guaranteed 50% at a Big Ten. The scholarship amount has never been a concern. People on this board are clearly uninformed.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/23/17 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes you are correct a school can offer 4 yr scholarships but they are virtually non existent, especially in Lacrosse . So I will stick to may post that they are year to year.


You really are dense , just because you did not discuss it or they were not willing to offer it to your kid multi year offers are common place in lacrosse so again stop posting when you are clueless.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/23/17 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes you are correct a school can offer 4 yr scholarships but they are virtually non existent, especially in Lacrosse . So I will stick to may post that they are year to year.


The Big 10 guarantees all athletic scholarships in all sports for four years. It was part of the settlement reached after the Northwestern football players threatened to unionize. The Pac 12 followed shortly after. So they r not virtually non-existent.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/23/17 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes you are correct a school can offer 4 yr scholarships but they are virtually non existent, especially in Lacrosse . So I will stick to may post that they are year to year.


You really are dense , just because you did not discuss it or they were not willing to offer it to your kid multi year offers are common place in lacrosse so again stop posting when you are clueless.


i didnt post this but, again, you definitely ASSUME way too much...you have no idea who this guy is.....but one thing is clear ....


btw HAPPY THANKSGIVING everyone
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/23/17 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes you are correct a school can offer 4 yr scholarships but they are virtually non existent, especially in Lacrosse . So I will stick to may post that they are year to year.


You really are dense , just because you did not discuss it or they were not willing to offer it to your kid multi year offers are common place in lacrosse so again stop posting when you are clueless.


i didnt post this but, again, you definitely ASSUME way too
much...you have no idea who this guy is.....but one thing is clear ....


btw HAPPY THANKSGIVING everyone


The only thing that is clear by your "cryptic" post is you think you are smarter than you are. When someone posts completely incorrect info and they are called clueless it is not assuming too much even if you capitalize ASSUME like a child shouting for attention.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/23/17 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes you are correct a school can offer 4 yr scholarships but they are virtually non existent, especially in Lacrosse . So I will stick to may post that they are year to year.


You really are dense , just because you did not discuss it or they were not willing to offer it to your kid multi year offers are common place in lacrosse so again stop posting when you are clueless.


i didnt post this but, again, you definitely ASSUME way too
much...you have no idea who this guy is.....but one thing is clear ....


btw HAPPY THANKSGIVING everyone


The only thing that is clear by your "cryptic" post is you think you are smarter than you are. When someone posts completely incorrect info and they are called clueless it is not assuming too much even if you capitalize ASSUME like a child shouting for attention.


Your the only ANGRY one on here. You ASSUME and you belittle people.

Your the bully of the board ....CONGRATS.....you did it
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/23/17 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes you are correct a school can offer 4 yr scholarships but they are virtually non existent, especially in Lacrosse . So I will stick to may post that they are year to year.


You really are dense , just because you did not discuss it or they were not willing to offer it to your kid multi year offers are common place in lacrosse so again stop posting when you are clueless.


i didnt post this but, again, you definitely ASSUME way too
much...you have no idea who this guy is.....but one thing is clear ....


btw HAPPY THANKSGIVING everyone


The only thing that is clear by your "cryptic" post is you think you are smarter than you are. When someone posts completely incorrect info and they are called clueless it is not assuming too much even if you capitalize ASSUME like a child shouting for attention.


The TRULY only thing that is CLEAR about you, is that you are ANGRY and you love to belittle anyone. I guess THEY would call that PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE. Again, you assume way too much and your responses just come across as the BULLY of the board.

You need to keep calling people names....and making judgements against people you don’t know.

Would hate to be your kid ...... “I said get back on the wall and do 1000 ....what are you dense?”

Btw .....Happy Thanksgiving
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/23/17 04:30 PM

The TRULY only thing that is CLEAR about you, is that you are ANGRY and you love to belittle anyone. I guess THEY would call that PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE. Again, you assume way too much and your responses just come across as the BULLY of the board.

You need to keep calling people names....and making judgements against people you don’t know.

Would hate to be your kid ...... “I said get back on the wall and do 1000 ....what are you dense?”

Btw .....Happy Thanksgiving

What's funny is you are doing the same exact thing you are saying this poster does. Curious if you believe using capitals is passive aggressive. I also dislike when posters put info out that is incorrect but generally just try to correct it and not call them names. In this case scholarships are given out that include multiple years ,case closed.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/23/17 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
The TRULY only thing that is CLEAR about you, is that you are ANGRY and you love to belittle anyone. I guess THEY would call that PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE. Again, you assume way too much and your responses just come across as the BULLY of the board.

You need to keep calling people names....and making judgements against people you don’t know.

Would hate to be your kid ...... “I said get back on the wall and do 1000 ....what are you dense?”

Btw .....Happy Thanksgiving

What's funny is you are doing the same exact thing you are saying this poster does. Curious if you believe using capitals is passive aggressive. I also dislike when posters put info out that is incorrect but generally just try to correct it and not call them names. In this case scholarships are given out that include multiple years ,case closed.


I am not the same poster that is why I said you assumed. The capitals were on purpose the second time.

Let’s move on and move passed this topic and quit going back an forth. It really is silly by both of us.

Anyway......

Everyone enjoy your thanksgiving.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/23/17 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The TRULY only thing that is CLEAR about you, is that you are ANGRY and you love to belittle anyone. I guess THEY would call that PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE. Again, you assume way too much and your responses just come across as the BULLY of the board.

You need to keep calling people names....and making judgements against people you don’t know.

Would hate to be your kid ...... “I said get back on the wall and do 1000 ....what are you dense?”


Btw .....Happy Thanksgiving

What's funny is you are doing the same exact thing you are saying this poster does. Curious if you believe using capitals is passive aggressive. I also dislike when posters put info out that is incorrect but generally just try to correct it and not call them names. In this case scholarships are given out that include multiple years ,case closed.


I am not the same poster that is why I said you assumed. The capitals were on purpose the second time.

Let’s move on and move passed this topic and quit going back an forth. It really is silly by both of us.

Anyway......

Everyone enjoy your thanksgiving.



Did not assume anything , you seem clueless just like the original poster.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/25/17 01:17 PM

The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so. All other conferences are year to year, if anybody listened to the news, or actually did a little research you would know. I found out by listening to news radio about 2 years ago.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/25/17 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so. All other conferences are year to year, if anybody listened to the news, or actually did a little research you would know. I found out by listening to news radio about 2 years ago.


Maybe you should have listened to the news a little more yourself, your wrong.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/26/17 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so. All other conferences are year to year, if anybody listened to the news, or actually did a little research you would know. I found out by listening to news radio about 2 years ago.


Maybe you should have listened to the news a little more yourself, your wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so. All other conferences are year to year, if anybody listened to the news, or actually did a little research you would know. I found out by listening to news radio about 2 years ago.


Maybe you should have listened to the news a little more yourself, your wrong.
no I'm not... https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/29/...hips-reflects-players-growing-power.html copy and paste and read for yourself, it took me 2 minutes too find it
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/26/17 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so. All other conferences are year to year, if anybody listened to the news, or actually did a little research you would know. I found out by listening to news radio about 2 years ago.


Maybe you should have listened to the news a little more yourself, your wrong.
Or how about this one , it explains it a little better for a wise [lacrosse] like yourself, but to dumb it down for you they both say that NCAA rules changed a rule that started in '71 and lasted to 2012 saying schools can only offer 1 year at a time to multi year deals, but most schools do not , only the big 10, at this point, makes all offers 4 year mandatory..... but please tell me I'm wrong again to prove how stupid you sound
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/26/17 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so. All other conferences are year to year, if anybody listened to the news, or actually did a little research you would know. I found out by listening to news radio about 2 years ago.


Maybe you should have listened to the news a little more yourself, your wrong.


About what? I’m a different poster, and my child is at a big ten with an athletic scholarship which is guaranteed in writing for all four years.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/26/17 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so. All other conferences are year to year, if anybody listened to the news, or actually did a little research you would know. I found out by listening to news radio about 2 years ago.


Maybe you should have listened to the news a little more yourself, your wrong.
Or how about this one , it explains it a little better for a wise [lacrosse] like yourself, but to dumb it down for you they both say that NCAA rules changed a rule that started in '71 and lasted to 2012 saying schools can only offer 1 year at a time to multi year deals, but most schools do not , only the big 10, at this point, makes all offers 4 year mandatory..... but please tell me I'm wrong again to prove how stupid you sound


So just to be clear, you are saying only big 10 schools give out 4 year deals?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/26/17 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so. All other conferences are year to year, if anybody listened to the news, or actually did a little research you would know. I found out by listening to news radio about 2 years ago.


Maybe you should have listened to the news a little more yourself, your wrong.
Or how about this one , it explains it a little better for a wise [lacrosse] like yourself, but to dumb it down for you they both say that NCAA rules changed a rule that started in '71 and
lasted to 2012 saying schools can only offer 1 year at a time to multi year deals, but most schools do not , only the big 10, at this point, makes all offers 4 year mandatory..... but please tell me I'm wrong again to prove how stupid you sound


So just to be clear, you are saying only big 10 schools give out 4 year deals?


That is what he originally said but is now trying to back track on because he was wrong . Big 10 is only conference that mandates all offers be guaranteed for 4 years , all non big ten schools can offer multi year scholarships but are not mandated to do so . My daughter received offers from schools from several different conferences and all were guaranteed for 4 years as long as she remained academically eligible .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/26/17 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so. All other conferences are year to year, if anybody listened to the news, or actually did a little research you would know. I found out by listening to news radio about 2 years ago.


Maybe you should have listened to the news a little more yourself, your wrong.
Or how about this one , it explains it a little better for a wise [lacrosse] like yourself, but to dumb it down for you they both say that NCAA rules changed a rule that started in '71 and
lasted to 2012 saying schools can only offer 1 year at a time to multi year deals, but most schools do not , only the big 10, at this point, makes all offers 4 year mandatory..... but please tell me I'm wrong again to prove how stupid you sound


So just to be clear, you are saying only big 10 schools give out 4 year deals?


That is what he originally said but is now trying to back track on because he was wrong . Big 10 is only conference that mandates all offers be guaranteed for 4 years , all non big ten schools can offer multi year scholarships but are not mandated to do so . My daughter received offers from schools from several different conferences and all were guaranteed for 4 years as long as she remained academically eligible .
Honestly, you people are either very dumb, Or are so afraid of being proven wrong that you will twist anything to suit your case, this is my original posts first sentence..."The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so." What is so confusing about that? where do you see me backtracking ?what your daughter received was an offer (and seeing as you're this dumb, I'm sure you tell everyone it's a "full ride") for 1 year that Her coach will honor for all four years, but the coach is not obligated, in any way, to honor that commitment next year unless she is in the big 10. If your daughter gets arrested, or hurt to where she can not play, or her play falls off for any reason, or if the coach leaves the program and a new coach decides to not renew the next year, your daughters offer is done. Neither the school or by any other conference rules do they have to honor the scholarship. That is the meaning of a Guaranteed 4 year offer, you get that amount no matter what happens except failing grades.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/26/17 11:06 PM

WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/27/17 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .



Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/27/17 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so. All other conferences are year to year, if anybody listened to the news, or actually did a little research you would know. I found out by listening to news radio about 2 years ago.


Maybe you should have listened to the news a little more yourself, your wrong.
Or how about this one , it explains it a little better for a wise [lacrosse] like yourself, but to dumb it down for you they both say that NCAA rules changed a rule that started in '71 and
lasted to 2012 saying schools can only offer 1 year at a time to multi year deals, but most schools do not , only the big 10, at this point, makes all offers 4 year mandatory..... but please tell me I'm wrong again to prove how stupid you sound


So just to be clear, you are saying only big 10 schools give out 4 year deals?


That is what he originally said but is now trying to back track on because he was wrong . Big 10 is only conference that mandates all offers be guaranteed for 4 years , all non big ten schools can offer multi year scholarships but are not mandated to do so . My daughter received offers from schools from several different conferences and all were guaranteed for 4 years as long as she remained academically eligible .
Honestly, you people are either very dumb, Or are so afraid of being proven wrong that you will twist anything to suit your case, this is my original posts first sentence..."The big 10 rules state that all scholarships must be 4 year offers, it is the only conference to do so." What is so confusing about that? where do you see me backtracking ?what your daughter received was an offer (and seeing as you're this dumb, I'm sure you tell everyone it's a "full ride") for 1 year that Her coach will honor for all four years, but the coach is not obligated, in any way, to honor that commitment next year unless she is in the big 10. If your daughter gets arrested, or hurt to where she can not play, or her play falls off for any reason, or if the coach leaves the program and a new coach decides to not renew the next year, your daughters offer is done. Neither the school or by any other conference rules do they have to honor the scholarship. That is the meaning of a Guaranteed 4 year offer, you get that amount no matter what happens except failing grades.


DUMB DUMB. That article is from 2014. The Big 10 is no longer the only conference that guarantees athletic scholarships for 4 years. The Pac 12 does as well and there may be others.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/27/17 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .



Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.

It has nothing to do with this graduation year its related to when you have an ill informed poster stating things that are completely false. Its not a lets agree to disagree situation as its not an opinion or interpretation of rules. The reason some find it so annoying is it may cause people to stress out such as the player who has verballed but now reads this type of uneducated post and is now concerned that what their future coach told them is wrong.
"With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. "
This is directly from the NCAA website. Its fairly easy to understand yet when you have someone who refuses to accept the information they are putting out there is incorrect it gets frustrating. In the end the lesson seems to be educate yourself so your child is in position to make the best choices.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/27/17 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .



Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.

It has nothing to do with this graduation year its related to when you have an ill informed poster stating things that are completely false. Its not a lets agree to disagree situation as its not an opinion or interpretation of rules. The reason some find it so annoying is it may cause people to stress out such as the player who has verballed but now reads this type of uneducated post and is now concerned that what their future coach told them is wrong.
"With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. "
This is directly from the NCAA website. Its fairly easy to understand yet when you have someone who refuses to accept the information they are putting out there is incorrect it gets frustrating. In the end the lesson seems to be educate yourself so your child is in position to make the best choices.



I was speaking on behalf of the people that read this thread.

And yes I am on different graduation year threads..... this one exudes anger.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/27/17 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .



Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.

It has nothing to do with this graduation year its related to when you have an ill informed poster stating things that are completely false. Its not a lets agree to disagree situation as its not an opinion or interpretation of rules. The reason some find it so annoying is it may cause people to stress out such as the player who has verballed but now reads this type of uneducated post and is now concerned that what their future coach told them is wrong.
"With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. "
This is directly from the NCAA website. Its fairly easy to understand yet when you have someone who refuses to accept the information they are putting out there is incorrect it gets frustrating. In the end the lesson seems to be educate yourself so your child is in position to make the best choices.



I was speaking on behalf of the people that read this thread.

And yes I am on different graduation year threads..... this one exudes anger.



2020 is the second worst age group of all time. It used to be the worst, now it is eclipsed in a huge way by 2023.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/27/17 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .



Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.

It has nothing to do with this graduation year its related to when you have an ill informed poster stating things that are completely false. Its not a lets agree to disagree situation as its not an opinion or interpretation of rules. The reason some find it so annoying is it may cause people to stress out such as the player who has verballed but now reads this type of uneducated post and is now concerned that what their future coach told them is wrong.
"With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. "
This is directly from the NCAA website. Its fairly easy to understand yet when you have someone who refuses to accept the information they are putting out there is incorrect it gets frustrating. In the end the lesson seems to be educate yourself so your child is in position to make the best choices.



I was speaking on behalf of the people that read this thread.

And yes I am on different graduation year threads..... this one exudes anger.


Don't want to seem angry but how do you know who is reading this thread. My kid is a college freshman and I read this thread and sometimes post on it. Seems to me there is a lot of anger on many of the threads.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/28/17 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .



Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.

It has nothing to do with this graduation year its related to when you have an ill informed poster stating things that are completely false. Its not a lets agree to disagree situation as its not an opinion or interpretation of rules. The reason some find it so annoying is it may cause people to stress out such as the player who has verballed but now reads this type of uneducated post and is now concerned that what their future coach told them is wrong.
"With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. "
This is directly from the NCAA website. Its fairly easy to understand yet when you have someone who refuses to accept the information they are putting out there is incorrect it gets frustrating. In the end the lesson seems to be educate yourself so your child is in position to make the best choices.



I was speaking on behalf of the people that read this thread.

And yes I am on different graduation year threads..... this one exudes anger.



2020 is the second worst age group of all time. It used to be the worst, now it is eclipsed in a huge way by 2023.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .



Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.

It has nothing to do with this graduation year its related to when you have an ill informed poster stating things that are completely false. Its not a lets agree to disagree situation as its not an opinion or interpretation of rules. The reason some find it so annoying is it may cause people to stress out such as the player who has verballed but now reads this type of uneducated post and is now concerned that what their future coach told them is wrong.
"With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. "
This is directly from the NCAA website. Its fairly easy to understand yet when you have someone who refuses to accept the information they are putting out there is incorrect it gets frustrating. In the end the lesson seems to be educate yourself so your child is in position to make the best choices.



I was speaking on behalf of the people that read this thread.

And yes I am on different graduation year threads..... this one exudes anger.



2020 is the second worst age group of all time. It used to be the worst, now it is eclipsed in a huge way by 2023.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .



Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.

It has nothing to do with this graduation year its related to when you have an ill informed poster stating things that are completely false. Its not a lets agree to disagree situation as its not an opinion or interpretation of rules. The reason some find it so annoying is it may cause people to stress out such as the player who has verballed but now reads this type of uneducated post and is now concerned that what their future coach told them is wrong.
"With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. "
This is directly from the NCAA website. Its fairly easy to understand yet when you have someone who refuses to accept the information they are putting out there is incorrect it gets frustrating. In the end the lesson seems to be educate yourself so your child is in position to make the best choices.



I was speaking on behalf of the people that read this thread.

And yes I am on different graduation year threads..... this one exudes anger.



2020 is the second worst age group of all time. It used to be the worst, now it is eclipsed in a huge way by 2023.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .



Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.

It has nothing to do with this graduation year its related to when you have an ill informed poster stating things that are completely false. Its not a lets agree to disagree situation as its not an opinion or interpretation of rules. The reason some find it so annoying is it may cause people to stress out such as the player who has verballed but now reads this type of uneducated post and is now concerned that what their future coach told them is wrong.
"With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. "
This is directly from the NCAA website. Its fairly easy to understand yet when you have someone who refuses to accept the information they are putting out there is incorrect it gets frustrating. In the end the lesson seems to be educate yourself so your child is in position to make the best choices.



I was speaking on behalf of the people that read this thread.

And yes I am on different graduation year threads..... this one exudes anger.



2020 is the second worst age group of all time. It used to be the worst, now it is eclipsed in a huge way by 2023.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .



Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.

It has nothing to do with this graduation year its related to when you have an ill informed poster stating things that are completely false. Its not a lets agree to disagree situation as its not an opinion or interpretation of rules. The reason some find it so annoying is it may cause people to stress out such as the player who has verballed but now reads this type of uneducated post and is now concerned that what their future coach told them is wrong.
"With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. "
This is directly from the NCAA website. Its fairly easy to understand yet when you have someone who refuses to accept the information they are putting out there is incorrect it gets frustrating. In the end the lesson seems to be educate yourself so your child is in position to make the best choices.



I was speaking on behalf of the people that read this thread.

And yes I am on different graduation year threads..... this one exudes anger.



2020 is the second worst age group of all time. It used to be the worst, now it is eclipsed in a huge way by 2023.



Lol. Will have to check it out.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/28/17 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW ,you really have something wrong with you . Try to understand this , schools outside the big ten can and do make multi year scholarship offers that are as binding and even more so in some cases than are mandated by the big ten . The terms are generally spelled out in their NLI. Because you felt the need to bring my daughter into this her scholarship is guaranteed for all 4 years as long as she is academically eligible . Again because you brought it up it covers 100 percent of her tuition and fees . She has to pay her roomand board costs . Again you are wrong in what you originally said and continue to be wrong .



Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.

It has nothing to do with this graduation year its related to when you have an ill informed poster stating things that are completely false. Its not a lets agree to disagree situation as its not an opinion or interpretation of rules. The reason some find it so annoying is it may cause people to stress out such as the player who has verballed but now reads this type of uneducated post and is now concerned that what their future coach told them is wrong.
"With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. "
This is directly from the NCAA website. Its fairly easy to understand yet when you have someone who refuses to accept the information they are putting out there is incorrect it gets frustrating. In the end the lesson seems to be educate yourself so your child is in position to make the best choices.



I was speaking on behalf of the people that read this thread.

And yes I am on different graduation year threads..... this one exudes anger.


Don't want to seem angry but how do you know who is reading this thread. My kid is a college freshman and I read this thread and sometimes post on it. Seems to me there is a lot of anger on many of the threads.


Your probably correct. All I see here is name calling. People calling people [lacrosse]. Who gives a crap what someone posts anonymously. To call people [lacrosse], morons and clueless is silly. Whomever is responding is responding to an anonymous person. Who cares.

Regardless (I want to say irregardless but that is not a word......please don’t argue that).....it’s a chat board...people have opinions and some are wrong but to get belligerent about it is not only not appropriate but immature.

I am not speaking to you directly. I am referring to the board. I am sure on this thread someone will come at me for this.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/29/17 07:34 AM

Move on, Jesus Christ everyone’s a google expert. Forum was actually having a good discussion and the last 4 pages of I’m right your wrong about scholarships is ridiculous. Let’s get back to either the YJ bashing or the showcase equal playing time discussion.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/29/17 07:53 AM

I just can’t wait until next year when the coaches start calling my daughter and the lil b&@ches and their mother’s from her team start crying because their no talent private school girl daughters’ who have zero skill or speed aren’t getting a single call. We were at the President Cup and I literally heard a mother say about a opponent we were playing “ I really don’t know how that girl is committed to Penn State, she’s not that good” the parent goggles these people have are unreal. I watched the girl for 2 minutes during warmups and could tell she was good. Big, fast and great stick skills. There’s a reason the girls are already committed, and the top reason is they are athletic. But half of the parents on my daughters team don’t get it.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/29/17 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just can’t wait until next year when the coaches start calling my daughter and the lil b&@ches and their mother’s from her team start crying because their no talent private school girl daughters’ who have zero skill or speed aren’t getting a single call. We were at the President Cup and I literally heard a mother say about a opponent we were playing “ I really don’t know how that girl is committed to Penn State, she’s not that good” the parent goggles these people have are unreal. I watched the girl for 2 minutes during warmups and could tell she was good. Big, fast and great stick skills. There’s a reason the girls are already committed, and the top reason is they are athletic. But half of the parents on my daughters team don’t get it.


I love these guys who are top talent evaluators. They know EVERYTHING. "The top reason is they are athletic." Pure genius. They are being recruited for a sport, one would assume that being athletic is a big part of that? Hmmm. But lets dig a little deeper into his psyche. Because it is clear that his daughter was not an early 2020 commit. But he likes to emphasize big, fast. So we know his daughter's type. Not a very good lacrosse player, but an "athlete". She will have a place for sure in college lax, but she will be a defender/defensive middie. Dime a dozen.

Want some other reasons why girls get recruited first? #1 lax IQ/Field vision = can't teach it. #2 Quickness, not just straight line speed #3 Stick skills (which he thankfully mentions w the Penn St. recruit because most of the 'big, fast' promoters think that stick skills just come along) #4 lax IQ/Field Vision #5 Lax IQ/Field vision. Get it????
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/29/17 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just can’t wait until next year when the coaches start calling my daughter and the lil b&@ches and their mother’s from her team start crying because their no talent private school girl daughters’ who have zero skill or speed aren’t getting a single call. We were at the President Cup and I literally heard a mother say about a opponent we were playing “ I really don’t know how that girl is committed to Penn State, she’s not that good” the parent goggles these people have are unreal. I watched the girl for 2 minutes during warmups and could tell she was good. Big, fast and great stick skills. There’s a reason the girls are already committed, and the top reason is they are athletic. But half of the parents on my daughters team don’t get it.


I love these guys who are top talent evaluators. They know EVERYTHING. "The top reason is they are athletic." Pure genius. They are being recruited for a sport, one would assume that being athletic is a big part of that? Hmmm. But lets dig a little deeper into his psyche. Because it is clear that his daughter was not an early 2020 commit. But he likes to emphasize big, fast. So we know his daughter's type. Not a very good lacrosse player, but an "athlete". She will have a place for sure in college lax, but she will be a defender/defensive middie. Dime a dozen.

Want some other reasons why girls get recruited first? #1 lax IQ/Field vision = can't teach it. #2 Quickness, not just straight line speed #3 Stick skills (which he thankfully mentions w the Penn St. recruit because most of the 'big, fast' promoters think that stick skills just come along) #4 lax IQ/Field Vision #5 Lax IQ/Field vision. Get it????



You must be one of those to talent evaluators who you love so much.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/29/17 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year

Scholarships are year to year ....... you are correct.


Some are some are not .Have never heard of the let's make life miserable thing , again let's hear the coaches who have supposedly done this .


All athletic scholarships are year to year

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What people fail to remember once you get outside the top 15 schools or so these coaches are leaving or getting fired all the time. They don't make that much avg $40k+ so for many its not a lifelong job. When kids were verbaling in 8th grade you were hoping the coach was there 5 years later. With the move to junior year there is a much better chance the coach that recruits your daughter will still be there.

From experience, coaches almost always honor the commits they inherit but then find ways to get out of and push or force inherited players out of the program to free up those scholarship slots year 2

and 3. They make it miserable for girls they don't want around


Not all scholarships are guaranteed for four years, plenty of schools it changes from year to year


Scholarships are year to year ....... you are correct.


Some are some are not .Have never heard of the let's make life miserable thing , again let's hear the coaches who have supposedly done this .


All athletic scholarships are year to year


Where did you go ?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/29/17 06:19 PM


Not all scholarships are guaranteed for four years, plenty of schools it changes from year to year[/quote]

Scholarships are year to year ....... you are correct. [/quote]

Some are some are not .Have never heard of the let's make life miserable thing , again let's hear the coaches who have supposedly done this . [/quote]

All athletic scholarships are year to year
[/quote]

Where did you go ? [/quote]

The Big 5--SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big 12 and Pac 12--guarantee scholarships. Know first hand. They start low (and guaranteed for four years) for freshman year, then go up based upon effort, performance, leadership, etc. You don't want to commit 50% for four years and then have a kid decide not to play. . .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/29/17 06:43 PM

Enough already. Who gives a crap!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/29/17 08:45 PM

What is everyone's opinion on summer coaches coaching varsity teams with some of their summer players on the team? Seems like a pay to play conflict. There is a reason most schools won't let classroom teachers tutor the kids in their class
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/29/17 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough already. Who gives a crap!!


What would you rather discuss , which team won the showcase tournament that barely any of the committed kids show up at. Agreed with the previous poster except many of those schools do make considerable offers to their top recruits starting year 1. By considerable I mean over 50 percent of the cost of attendance .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/30/17 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough already. Who gives a crap!!


What would you rather discuss , which team won the showcase tournament that barely any of the committed kids show up at. Agreed with the previous poster except many of those schools do make considerable offers to their top recruits starting year 1. By considerable I mean over 50 percent of the cost of attendance .


LOL, right. . .let's talk about who's beating up who and which club stinks! OP, and yes, you're right. From what I've heard and "learned" from coaches, top 1-3 recruits incoming will get over 50 percent, then a drop down to 15 to 20 percent (per year guaranteed) to next group, then book money (1-2%), then nothing (which doesn't mean these aren't good players....they may be in state for state schools). A public school tuition like MD or UVA for even an out of stater is already half of a private. . .so many of the Big 5 can go low early and high later which makes the guarantee less odious. And this obviously is one hearsay story...each coach has a different MO. Of course, there's always that one parent whose kid got the FULL RIDE. . .and I believe it! </sarcasm>
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 11/30/17 03:53 AM

Your cost of going to a state school from out of state is not even close . Out of state at UVA cost of attendance is around 60 k, most private schools such as Duke are around 65k.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/06/17 08:37 AM

All quiet on the western front
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/06/17 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
All quiet on the western front


Winter is coming. Not much going on until the clinics start up in January.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/06/17 04:48 PM

Clinics. That’s hilarious
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All quiet on the western front


Winter is coming. Not much going on until the clinics start up in January.


The 'money-grabs' in January?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All quiet on the western front


Winter is coming. Not much going on until the clinics start up in January.


The 'money-grabs' in January?


Speaking of money grabs, does anyone have any thoughts to share on Nike Elite 120 in July? Worth it or not?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/07/17 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All quiet on the western front


Winter is coming. Not much going on until the clinics start up in January.


The 'money-grabs' in January?


Speaking of money grabs, does anyone have any thoughts to share on Nike Elite 120 in July? Worth it or not?


Last year no. They were inviting the age groups prior to the new NCAA contact rules. Historically this has been the richest coach per player ratio out there. But they also changed the time of year, so who knows what the turnout will be. But it will probably be good for 2020's, but not 21's.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/08/17 09:23 AM

No coaches were at event. UA 150 just as bad
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/08/17 11:43 AM

NCAA recruiting for lax is going to Change. NCAA not going to have individual rules for non revenue sports. US lax has article. Vote coming 4/1/18. Contact with PSA will be 9/1 of Sophomore year at clinics and camps of that school. Still no official visit until Junior year. I like official visit being moved up a year so kids can see schools and make better choice and not rush. Now they have to go on five official visits in Sept and Oct of senior year.

I like the NCAA proposal. It moves it up a year, but still respect time of not too soon.....and it is for ALL sports.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/08/17 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just can’t wait until next year when the coaches start calling my daughter and the lil b's and their mother’s from her team start crying because their no talent private school girl daughters’ who have zero skill or speed aren’t getting a single call. We were at the President Cup and I literally heard a mother say about a opponent we were playing “ I really don’t know how that girl is committed to Penn State, she’s not that good” the parent goggles these people have are unreal. I watched the girl for 2 minutes during warmups and could tell she was good. Big, fast and great stick skills. There’s a reason the girls are already committed, and the top reason is they are athletic. But half of the parents on my daughters team don’t get it.


I love these guys who are top talent evaluators. They know EVERYTHING. "The top reason is they are athletic." Pure genius. They are being recruited for a sport, one would assume that being athletic is a big part of that? Hmmm. But lets dig a little deeper into his psyche. Because it is clear that his daughter was not an early 2020 commit. But he likes to emphasize big, fast. So we know his daughter's type. Not a very good lacrosse player, but an "athlete". She will have a place for sure in college lax, but she will be a defender/defensive middie. Dime a dozen.

Want some other reasons why girls get recruited first? #1 lax IQ/Field vision = can't teach it. #2 Quickness, not just straight line speed #3 Stick skills (which he thankfully mentions w the Penn St. recruit because most of the 'big, fast' promoters think that stick skills just come along) #4 lax IQ/Field Vision #5 Lax IQ/Field vision. Get it????



You must be one of those to talent evaluators who you love so much.


In fact, yes. And won't be taking your daughter.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/09/17 06:13 PM

Coaches--both men and women are working to make sure Lacrosse is exempt from the new proposed legislation IF it gets passed. There are too many dates, much more confusing about what you can do and when. Sept 1 of junior year for everything is just simple and easier to regulate. Plus, lacrosse hasn't even had a chance to see how the new legislation is actually going to work. It will be 2-3 years before there is a better sense of how things will be moving forward.

Generally speaking, the NCAA is reactionary. The issue of early recruiting was not on their radar before the lacrosse coaches put it there. Likewise, the days of 'one size fits all' legislation are over. Field Hockey coaches were on board with the lacrosse concept but the Sept 1 date is not ideal for them or any fall sports for that matter due to the timing of their seasons. Coaching groups are scrambling right now to get what they want in place before the NCAA tries to impose it upon them. Stay tuned....
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/09/17 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just can’t wait until next year when the coaches start calling my daughter and the lil blank and their mother’s from her team start crying because their no talent private school girl daughters’ who have zero skill or speed aren’t getting a single call. We were at the President Cup and I literally heard a mother say about a opponent we were playing “ I really don’t know how that girl is committed to Penn State, she’s not that good” the parent goggles these people have are unreal. I watched the girl for 2 minutes during warmups and could tell she was good. Big, fast and great stick skills. There’s a reason the girls are already committed, and the top reason is they are athletic. But half of the parents on my
daughters team don’t get it.


I love these guys who are top talent evaluators. They know EVERYTHING. "The top reason is they are athletic." Pure genius. They are being recruited for a sport, one would assume that being athletic is a big part of that? Hmmm. But lets dig a little deeper into his psyche. Because it is clear that his daughter was not an early 2020 commit. But he likes to emphasize big, fast. So we know his daughter's type. Not a very good lacrosse player, but an "athlete". She will have a place for sure in college lax, but she will be a defender/defensive middie. Dime a dozen.

Want some other reasons why girls get recruited first? #1 lax IQ/Field vision = can't teach it. #2 Quickness, not just straight line speed #3 Stick skills (which he thankfully mentions w the Penn St. recruit because most of the 'big, fast' promoters think that stick skills just come along) #4 lax IQ/Field Vision #5 Lax IQ/Field vision. Get it????



You must be one of those to talent evaluators who you love so much.


In fact, yes. And won't be taking your daughter.


So witty ,only took you over a week to come up with that .Hopefully your daughters lax IQ is not related to your IQ.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just can’t wait until next year when the coaches start calling my daughter and the lil b and their mother’s from her team start crying because their no talent private school girl daughters’ who have zero skill or speed aren’t getting a single call. We were at the President Cup and I literally heard a mother say about a opponent we were playing “ I really don’t know how that girl is committed to Penn State, she’s not that good” the parent goggles these people have are unreal. I watched the girl for 2 minutes during warmups and could tell she was good. Big, fast and great stick skills. There’s a reason the girls are already committed, and the top reason is they are athletic. But half of the parents on my
daughters team don’t get it.


I love these guys who are top talent evaluators. They know EVERYTHING. "The top reason is they are athletic." Pure genius. They are being recruited for a sport, one would assume that being athletic is a big part of that? Hmmm. But lets dig a little deeper into his psyche. Because it is clear that his daughter was not an early 2020 commit. But he likes to emphasize big, fast. So we know his daughter's type. Not a very good lacrosse player, but an "athlete". She will have a place for sure in college lax, but she will be a defender/defensive middie. Dime a dozen.

Want some other reasons why girls get recruited first? #1 lax IQ/Field vision = can't teach it. #2 Quickness, not just straight line speed #3 Stick skills (which he thankfully mentions w the Penn St. recruit because most of the 'big, fast' promoters think that stick skills just come along) #4 lax IQ/Field Vision #5 Lax IQ/Field vision. Get it????



You must be one of those to talent evaluators who you love so much.


In fact, yes. And won't be taking your daughter.


So witty ,only took you over a week to come up with that .Hopefully your daughters lax IQ is not related to your IQ.


Anyone who writes "lil blank" in a girl's youth lax forum" should probably check themselves in to Bellevue.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 02:13 AM

Anyone who writes "lil Blank" in a girl's youth lax forum" should probably check themselves in to Bellevue.

I agree but that's a different person from the one who is making you look like a fool trying to be the know it all talent evaluator .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 12:36 PM

I agree but that's a different person from the one who is making you look like a fool trying to be the know it all talent evaluator .[/quote]

yeah ok. you just got called out for being a complete DB and now you r trying to run from it. So also a coward. Nice.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who writes lb" in a girl's youth lax forum" should probably check themselves in to Bellevue.

I agree but that's a different person from the one who is making you look like a fool trying to be the know it all talent evaluator .


yeah ok. you just got called out for being a complete blank and now you r trying to run from it. So also a coward. Nice.


Seems not only are you a terrible evaluator but also have zero concept that muntiple people actually post on this site .Lets "dig a little deeper " into your psyche, you think you know what all college coaches are looking for , your an internet tough guy , you cannot accept that multiple people on this site think your a fool. Essentially it's obvious that you are the protypical braggart lacrosse dad who everyone tolerates but cannot stand , sadly you know this but cannot help yourself on the sideline .Gotta love the internet fake tough guy anonymously calling others a coward , now go back to your evaluating of 12 -13 year old girls , creepy at best , illlegal at worst.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who writes "lil [ChillLaxin]" in a girl's youth lax forum" should probably check themselves in to Bellevue.

I agree but that's a different person from the one who is making you look like a fool trying to be the know it all talent evaluator .


yeah ok. you just got called out for being a complete DB and now you r trying to run from it. So also a coward. Nice.


Seems not only are you a terrible evaluator but also have zero concept that muntiple people actually post on this site .Lets "dig a little deeper " into your psyche, you think you know what all college coaches are looking for , your an internet tough guy , you cannot accept that multiple people on this site think your a fool. Essentially it's obvious that you are the protypical blowhard lacrosse dad who everyone tolerates but cannot stand , sadly you know this but cannot help yourself on the sideline .Gotta love the internet fake tough guy anonymously calling others a coward , now go back to your evaluating of 12 -13 year old girls , creepy at best , illlegal at worst.


Angry much. Terrible grammar and spelling. Look who's the "internet tough guy". And definitely same guy. Time for you to grow up. Your poor daughter.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who writes "lil [ChillLaxin]" in a girl's youth lax forum" should probably check themselves in to Bellevue.

I agree but that's a different person from the one who is making you look like a fool trying to be the know it all talent evaluator .


yeah ok. you just got called out for being a complete DB and now you r trying to run from it. So also a coward. Nice.


Seems not only are you a terrible evaluator but also have zero concept that muntiple people actually post on this site .Lets "dig a little deeper " into your psyche, you think you know what all college coaches are looking for , your an internet tough guy , you cannot accept that multiple people on this site think your a fool. Essentially it's obvious that you are the protypical blowhard lacrosse dad who everyone tolerates but cannot stand , sadly you know this but cannot help yourself on the sideline .Gotta love the internet fake tough guy anonymously calling others a coward , now go back to your evaluating of 12 -13 year old girls , creepy at best , illlegal at worst.


Angry much. Terrible grammar and spelling. Look who's the "internet tough guy". And definitely same guy. Time for you to grow up. Your poor daughter.


Why don't we try a new subject. Any predictions for top 5 in Women's NCAA this year? I say Neither UNC or Maryland win it this year. I'll go with a bit of a wildcard given the last few years, Northwestern.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who writes "lil b&@ches" in a girl's youth lax forum" should probably check themselves in to Bellevue.

I agree but that's a different person from the one who is making you look like a fool trying to be the know it all talent evaluator .


yeah ok. you just got called out for being a complete DB and now you r trying to run from it. So also a coward. Nice.


Seems not only are you a terrible evaluator but also have zero
concept that muntiple people actually post on this site .Lets "dig a little deeper " into your psyche, you think you know what all college coaches are looking for , your an internet tough guy , you cannot accept that multiple people on this site think your a fool. Essentially it's obvious that you are the protypical braggart lacrosse dad who everyone tolerates but cannot stand , sadly you know this but cannot help yourself on the sideline .Gotta love the internet fake tough guy anonymously calling others a coward , now go back to your evaluating of 12 -13 year old girls , creepy at best , illlegal at worst.


Angry much. Terrible grammar and spelling. Look who's the "internet tough guy". And definitely same guy. Time for you to grow up. Your poor daughter.


Seriously if you are going to write like you have calling someone out on their grammar is hilarious .Now go back to your 12-13 year old talent evaluation business ,I guess that's why your known as the HW of youth lacrosse , just creepy .You have been abused enough it's time to move on from your ignorance.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/10/17 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who writes "lil [ChillLaxin]" in a girl's youth lax forum" should probably check themselves in to Bellevue.

I agree but that's a different person from the one who is making you look like a fool trying to be the know it all talent evaluator .


yeah ok. you just got called out for being a complete DB and now you r trying to run from it. So also a coward. Nice.


Seems not only are you a terrible evaluator but also have zero
concept that muntiple people actually post on this site .Lets "dig a little deeper " into your psyche, you think you know what all college coaches are looking for , your an internet tough guy , you cannot accept that multiple people on this site think your a fool. Essentially it's obvious that you are the protypical blowhard lacrosse dad who everyone tolerates but cannot stand , sadly you know this but cannot help yourself on the sideline .Gotta love the internet fake tough guy anonymously calling others a coward , now go back to your evaluating of 12 -13 year old girls , creepy at best , illlegal at worst.


Angry much. Terrible grammar and spelling. Look who's the "internet tough guy". And definitely same guy. Time for you to grow up. Your poor daughter.


Seriously if you are going to write like you have calling someone out on their grammar is hilarious .Now go back to your 12-13 year old talent evaluation business ,I guess that's why your known as the Harvey Weinstein of youth lacrosse , just creepy .You have been abused enough it's time to move on from your ignorance.


Lay off the sauce, loser.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who writes "lil [ChillLaxin]" in a girl's youth lax forum" should probably check themselves in to Bellevue.

I agree but that's a different person from the one who is making you look like a fool trying to be the know it all talent evaluator .


yeah ok. you just got called out for being a complete DB and now you r trying to run from it. So also a coward. Nice.


Seems not only are you a terrible evaluator but also have zero concept that muntiple people actually post on this site .Lets "dig a little deeper " into your psyche, you think you know what all college coaches are looking for , your an internet tough guy , you cannot accept that multiple people on this site think your a fool. Essentially it's obvious that you are the protypical blowhard lacrosse dad who everyone tolerates but cannot stand , sadly you know this but cannot help yourself on the sideline .Gotta love the internet fake tough guy anonymously calling others a coward , now go back to your evaluating of 12 -13 year old girls , creepy at best , illlegal at worst.


Angry much. Terrible grammar and spelling. Look who's the "internet tough guy". And definitely same guy. Time for you to grow up. Your poor daughter.


Why don't we try a new subject. Any predictions for top 5 in Women's NCAA this year? I say Neither UNC or Maryland win it this year. I'll go with a bit of a wildcard given the last few years, Northwestern.


Could use a change in the conversation. So why Northwestern? They seem to be getting worse and worse every year, why this year? They seemed to have changed their recruiting philosophy and it has hurt them lately. KAH loves the idea of finding some out of the box player and turning them into All Americans. It worked on her first go round. But trying to turn Texas and Canada into the next Womens hotbed is a bit too far out of the box thinking. Actually the player from Canada may be from inside the box, lol.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 12:22 AM

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who writes "lil [ChillLaxin]" in a girl's youth lax forum" should probably check themselves in to Bellevue.

I agree but that's a different person from the one who is making you look like a fool trying to be the know it all talent evaluator .


yeah ok. you just got called out for being a complete DB and now you r trying to run from it. So also a coward. Nice.


Seems not only are you a terrible evaluator but also have zero concept that muntiple people actually post on this site .Lets "dig a little deeper " into your psyche, you think you know what all college coaches are looking for , your an internet tough guy , you cannot accept that multiple people on this site think your a fool. Essentially it's obvious that you are the protypical blowhard lacrosse dad who everyone tolerates but cannot stand , sadly you know this but cannot help yourself on the sideline .Gotta love the internet fake tough guy anonymously calling others a coward , now go back to your evaluating of 12 -13 year old girls , creepy at best , illlegal at worst.


Angry much. Terrible grammar and spelling. Look who's the "internet tough guy". And definitely same guy. Time for you to grow up. Your poor daughter.


Why don't we try a new subject. Any predictions for top 5 in Women's NCAA this year? I say Neither UNC or Maryland win it this year. I'll go with a bit of a wildcard given the last few years, Northwestern.


Could use a change in the conversation. So why Northwestern? They seem to be getting worse and worse every year, why this year? They seemed to have changed their recruiting philosophy and it has hurt them lately. KAH loves the idea of finding some out of the box player and turning them into All Americans. It worked on her first go round. But trying to turn Texas and Canada into the next Womens hotbed is a bit too far out of the box thinking. Actually the player from Canada may be from inside the box, lol.


Well. They got a lot better from beginning of last year to end. They lost Selena Lasota very early in the season. She is a very impactful player. One of their other top scorers, Danita Stroup, is back as a 5th year senior, and Shelby Fredericks might be the best draw player in the country. Their defense is physical and fast. Quinn and Copeland stand out at that end. I think they will be tough to play against if they stay healthy.

Didn't watch them play in the fall, but a friend did. Saw them play Notre Dame. Said NU dominated. Yes just fall ball. Doesn't mean a lot. But I think they will be back in the hunt this year and will not be a team you will want to face in the NCAAs if they are healthy at the end of the year.

Just trying to find someone other than Maryland and UNC that could have an outside chance. They'd be my bet.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 03:35 AM

The same 5 teams have won the championship for the last 25 years. This year won't be any different. The reason that any girl that wants to play in college can, is because there is a shortage of exceptional talent once you get outside the top 15 teams. I hope your right and we have new winners because that would be good for the sport.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/11/17 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
The same 5 teams have won the championship for the last 25 years. This year won't be any different. The reason that any girl that wants to play in college can, is because there is a shortage of exceptional talent once you get outside the top 15 teams. I hope your right and we have new winners because that would be good for the sport.


Not a fan and have no affiliation, but this could be the year for Stony Brook, they should have beaten Maryland last year in the semi's and they destroyed BC in fall ball, to the point of embarrassing them on the field - thoughts?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The same 5 teams have won the championship for the last 25 years. This year won't be any different. The reason that any girl that wants to play in college can, is because there is a shortage of exceptional talent once you get outside the top 15 teams. I hope your right and we have new winners because that would be good for the sport.


Not a fan and have no affiliation, but this could be the year for Stony Brook, they should have beaten Maryland last year in the semi's and they destroyed BC in fall ball, to the point of embarrassing them on the field - thoughts?


Very hard to root for stony brook and their coach who has always been a rule bender. He will be the reason all ladies are wearing helmets one day. Although his tactics win him a ton of games its tough to watch like the old hack the shaq days. At least the rest of the country can now do what SB and the rest of the LI club girls have always done, move after the whistle
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The same 5 teams have won the championship for the last 25 years. This year won't be any different. The reason that any girl that wants to play in college can, is because there is a shortage of exceptional talent once you get outside the top 15 teams. I hope your right and we have new winners because that would be good for the sport.


Not a fan and have no affiliation, but this could be the year for Stony Brook, they should have beaten Maryland last year in the semi's and they destroyed BC in fall ball, to the point of embarrassing them on the field - thoughts?


Very hard to root for stony brook and their coach who has always been a rule bender. He will be the reason all ladies are wearing helmets one day. Although his tactics win him a ton of games its tough to watch like the old hack the shaq days. At least the rest of the country can now do what SB and the rest of the LI club girls have always done, move after the whistle


No one goes by anything in the fall either, I watched Maryland lose to BC and Virginia last fall. Teams aren't the same in the fall. But I will say that SB is going to a contender this year and they finally decided to play a tough schedule, maybe Spallina realized the AE and Hopkins was not enough.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough already. Who gives a crap!!


What would you rather discuss , which team won the showcase tournament that barely any of the committed kids show up at. Agreed with the previous poster except many of those schools do make considerable offers to their top recruits starting year 1. By considerable I mean over 50 percent of the cost of attendance .


LOL, right. . .let's talk about who's beating up who and which club stinks! OP, and yes, you're right. From what I've heard and "learned" from coaches, top 1-3 recruits incoming will get over 50 percent, then a drop down to 15 to 20 percent (per year guaranteed) to next group, then book money (1-2%), then nothing (which doesn't mean these aren't good players....they may be in state for state schools). A public school tuition like MD or UVA for even an out of stater is already half of a private. . .so many of the Big 5 can go low early and high later which makes the guarantee less odious. And this obviously is one hearsay story...each coach has a different MO. Of course, there's always that one parent whose kid got the FULL RIDE. . .and I believe it! </sarcasm>


I know Boston College and Duke have alumni donate scholarships to sports, So they have those and then the ones the school offers
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The same 5 teams have won the championship for the last 25 years. This year won't be any different. The reason that any girl that wants to play in college can, is because there is a shortage of exceptional talent once you get outside the top 15 teams. I hope your right and we have new winners because that would be good for the sport.


Not a fan and have no affiliation, but this could be the year for Stony Brook, they should have beaten Maryland last year in the semi's and they destroyed BC in fall ball, to the point of embarrassing them on the field - thoughts?


Very hard to root for stony brook and their coach who has always been a rule bender. He will be the reason all ladies are wearing helmets one day. Although his tactics win him a ton of games its tough to watch like the old hack the shaq days. At least the rest of the country can now do what SB and the rest of the LI club girls have always done, move after the whistle


Agree with this. There is one simple reason SB will not win this year - the change back to the original 3-second rule. And thank god. They stuffed the 8-meter. Had like 31 3 second calls in that game against Maryland. It was silly when the NCAA changed the rule to a minor foul. There was no consequence. Now it is back to a major foul, and SB will pay if they play their illegal zone in the 8. Made for ugly lacrosse and bordered on cheating. But that's what you'd expect from them.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough already. Who gives a crap!!


What would you rather discuss , which team won the showcase tournament that barely any of the committed kids show up at. Agreed with the previous poster except many of those schools do make considerable offers to their top recruits starting year 1. By considerable I mean over 50 percent of the cost of attendance .


LOL, right. . .let's talk about who's beating up who and which club stinks! OP, and yes, you're right. From what I've heard and "learned" from coaches, top 1-3 recruits incoming will get over 50 percent, then a drop down to 15 to 20 percent (per year guaranteed) to next group, then book money (1-2%), then nothing (which doesn't mean these aren't good players....they may be in state for state schools). A public school tuition like MD or UVA for even an out of stater is already half of a private. . .so many of the Big 5 can go low early and high later which makes the guarantee less odious. And this obviously is one hearsay story...each coach has a different MO. Of course, there's always that one parent whose kid got the FULL RIDE. . .and I believe it! </sarcasm>


I know Boston College and Duke have alumni donate scholarships to sports, So they have those and then the ones the school offers


No. Well yes. That's how BC funds some of their scholarships. Assume u r correct about Duke. They are not in addition to "the ones the schools have to offer." Every school gets to offer 12 scholarships in women's lacrosse. Some schools aren't "fully funded" by their athletic department and don't actually offer 12. Some, get fully funded through their athletic department. And some, BC as an example, use a combination of athletic department budgeting and endowed scholarships from alumni. They still only offer 12 total. It's just a question of where the money comes from to fund them.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough already. Who gives a crap!!


What would you rather discuss , which team won the showcase tournament that barely any of the committed kids show up at. Agreed with the previous poster except many of those schools do make considerable offers to their top recruits starting year 1. By considerable I mean over 50 percent of the cost of attendance .


LOL, right. . .let's talk about who's beating up who and which club stinks! OP, and yes, you're right. From what I've heard and "learned" from coaches, top 1-3 recruits incoming will get over 50 percent, then a drop down to 15 to 20 percent (per year guaranteed) to next group, then book money (1-2%), then nothing (which doesn't mean these aren't good players....they may be in state for state schools). A public school tuition like MD or UVA for even an out of stater is already half of a private. . .so many of the Big 5 can go low early and high later which makes the guarantee less odious. And this obviously is one hearsay story...each coach has a different MO. Of course, there's always that one parent whose kid got the FULL RIDE. . .and I believe it! </sarcasm>


I know Boston College and Duke have alumni donate scholarships to sports, So they have those and then the ones the school offers


Completely illegal. If boosters could do that than every kid on every team at a big school would be on a full ride. Scholarships keep the playing field somewhat level however in lacrosse and soccer you will find a surprising amount of D1 schools that are not allowed to use their full NCAA scholarship allotment. Those are schools are only partially funded ie only get 8 scholarships
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/12/17 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enough already. Who gives a crap!!


What would you rather discuss , which team won the showcase tournament that barely any of the committed kids show up at. Agreed with the previous poster except many of those schools do make considerable offers to their top recruits starting year 1. By considerable I mean over 50 percent of the cost of attendance .


LOL, right. . .let's talk about who's beating up who and which club stinks! OP, and yes, you're right. From what I've heard and "learned" from coaches, top 1-3 recruits incoming will get over 50 percent, then a drop down to 15 to 20 percent (per year guaranteed) to next group, then book money (1-2%), then nothing (which doesn't mean these aren't good players....they may be in state for state schools). A public school tuition like MD or UVA for even an out of stater is already half of a private. . .so many of the Big 5 can go low early and high later which makes the guarantee less odious. And this obviously is one hearsay story...each coach has a different MO. Of course, there's always that one parent whose kid got the FULL RIDE. . .and I believe it! </sarcasm>


I know Boston College and Duke have alumni donate scholarships to sports, So they have those and then the ones the school offers


I am not sure what exactly you are trying to say. Just to be clear the maximum number of athletic scholarships a program can award is set by the NCAA, even if alumni donate that amount does not change.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The same 5 teams have won the championship for the last 25 years. This year won't be any different. The reason that any girl that wants to play in college can, is because there is a shortage of exceptional talent once you get outside the top 15 teams. I hope your right and we have new winners because that would be good for the sport.


Not a fan and have no affiliation, but this could be the year for Stony Brook, they should have beaten Maryland last year in the semi's and they destroyed BC in fall ball, to the point of embarrassing them on the field - thoughts?


Very hard to root for stony brook and their coach who has always been a rule bender. He will be the reason all ladies are wearing helmets one day. Although his tactics win him a ton of games its tough to watch like the old hack the shaq days. At least the rest of the country can now do what SB and the rest of the LI club girls have always done, move after the whistle


Was watching northwestern stall for the last 8-10 minutes of a game any better? Coaches all bend the rules when it suits them and complain when it works against them
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/13/17 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The same 5 teams have won the championship for the last 25 years. This year won't be any different. The reason that any girl that wants to play in college can, is because there is a shortage of exceptional talent once you get outside the top 15 teams. I hope your right and we have new winners because that would be good for the sport.


Not a fan and have no affiliation, but this could be the year for Stony Brook, they should have beaten Maryland last year in the semi's and they destroyed BC in fall ball, to the point of embarrassing them on the field - thoughts?


Very hard to root for stony brook and their coach who has always been a rule bender. He will be the reason all ladies are wearing helmets one day. Although his tactics win him a ton of games its tough to watch like the old hack the shaq days. At least the rest of the country can now do what SB and the rest of the LI club girls have always done, move after the whistle


Was watching northwestern stall for the last 8-10 minutes of a game any better? Coaches all bend the rules when it suits them and complain when it works against them


??? That was not bending the rules at all. It was just boring. The shot clock has been great. Free movement and quick restarts speed up game the game, too. Although the free movement with resetting the offensive player does not make sense as it rewards the D for fouling. Hopefully the repetitive foul green/yellow cards will be issued early to stop that. Because we know SB will push the limit if they can. Cheaters always wanna cheat.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 12/14/17 02:34 AM

A Progressive foul system like basketball would mean stony brook would need a roster of 50 to finish games. And yes I think it would be great to stop the hacking and needless fouls
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/02/18 12:25 PM

Anyone considering going to the Women’s Professional Lacrosse League Futures tryout this month at Hofstra ?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/02/18 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone considering going to the Women’s Professional Lacrosse League Futures tryout this month at Hofstra ?

This ones at Hofstra? Why’d a couple of LI kids go to Princeton ? Must’ve not known there was for New York. I’ll look in to it.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/02/18 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone considering going to the Women’s Professional Lacrosse League Futures tryout this month at Hofstra ?


you need to find something better to do with all your free time!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/02/18 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone considering going to the Women’s Professional Lacrosse League Futures tryout this month at Hofstra ?


you need to find something better to do with all your free time!



There is always someone willing to take your time, money or both
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/02/18 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone considering going to the Women’s Professional Lacrosse League Futures tryout this month at Hofstra ?


you need to find something better to do with all your free time!



There is always someone willing to take your time, money or both


I guess that the UWLX was so successful that someone decided they needed to start another women's pro lacrosse league...
Posted By: TM@BOTC

(NA) Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/02/18 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone considering going to the Women’s Professional Lacrosse League Futures tryout this month at Hofstra ?


you need to find something better to do with all your free time!



There is always someone willing to take your time, money or both


I guess that the UWLX was so successful that someone decided they needed to start another women's pro lacrosse league...


There was a difference of opinion with upper management so one of the co-founders I believe (or some executive) decided to compete with the league by starting their own league. The MLL (Major League Lacrosse for the Men's) is not profitable so I cannot see any of these leagues being 'profitable' but profitable doesn't necessarily mean successful...However, having 2 leagues is great for the sport and gives former collegiate players a way to earn some extra supplemental income for something that they love doing and for the top players, it gives them a chance to earn more money through endorsement deals.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/02/18 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The same 5 teams have won the championship for the last 25 years. This year won't be any different. The reason that any girl that wants to play in college can, is because there is a shortage of exceptional talent once you get outside the top 15 teams. I hope your right and we have new winners because that would be good for the sport.


Not a fan and have no affiliation, but this could be the year for Stony Brook, they should have beaten Maryland last year in the semi's and they destroyed BC in fall ball, to the point of embarrassing them on the field - thoughts?


Stony Brook was not in the semi's last year (or any year). Should have, could have, and would have but they didn't . Don't think they will win it this year either.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/02/18 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by TM@BOTC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone considering going to the Women’s Professional Lacrosse League Futures tryout this month at Hofstra ?


you need to find something better to do with all your free time!



There is always someone willing to take your time, money or both


I guess that the UWLX was so successful that someone decided they needed to start another women's pro lacrosse league...


There was a difference of opinion with upper management so one of the co-founders I believe (or some executive) decided to compete with the league by starting their own league. The MLL (Major League Lacrosse for the Men's) is not profitable so I cannot see any of these leagues being 'profitable' but profitable doesn't necessarily mean successful...However, having 2 leagues is great for the sport and gives former collegiate players a way to earn some extra supplemental income for something that they love doing and for the top players, it gives them a chance to earn more money through endorsement deals.


As the previous poster said there's always someone willing to take your money. My son did it for two years after college and it was crazy travel combined with no money and then you have to fill out tax returns for every state that you played in, as much as he loved the game it was a real headache
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/02/18 10:59 PM

WOW..... I am late to all of this but here is my thoughts.... it may take a bit.
As far as the Internet tough guy/evaluators.... concerning the 2015 class (the ones picked for the U.S U-19 team) as a control case.

one of the goalies picked for the U19 team (supposedly the best) has been benched and has not retained her spot (NU) he other has been replaced multiple times because of poor play(ND) meanwhile, goalies that got less press are on the #1(SB) and #2 (BC) teams in the country, and two of the best players in the country (Apuzzo and Leavy) were passed over for lesser players today (Ortega and Miller)So just maybe how you play when you're 13 or 14 doesn't really mean that much when your 20.

Seeing as this is a LI thread...... looking at Florida... it seems the "me first" "go to goal" play from the sisters from the YJ club do more to hurt them than help, while the real deal player (from Liberty, I know you YJ lovers will hate this, but it is true) is the only real Tewaaraton worthy player on the team. In reality, no YJ player is really worthy this year or next (Except maybe Ortega from UNC) but definitely players from TG and Lib are.

Fall ball means Nothing.... when your daughter gets to college you will realize this

All coaches (especially college coaches) are lying to you. unless you are in the top 1%........ and no your kid is not one of them.

Spallina is the worst thing to happen to woman lacrosse, but is a great coach

Northwestern only seems better because they are not playing the hardest schedule this year.... average at best. gets by on n name recognition ( but so does 'cuse
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/03/18 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by TM@BOTC
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone considering going to the Women’s Professional Lacrosse League Futures tryout this month at Hofstra ?


you need to find something better to do with all your free time!



There is always someone willing to take your time, money or both


I guess that the UWLX was so successful that someone decided they needed to start another women's pro lacrosse league...


There was a difference of opinion with upper management so one of the co-founders I believe (or some executive) decided to compete with the league by starting their own league. The MLL (Major League Lacrosse for the Men's) is not profitable so I cannot see any of these leagues being 'profitable' but profitable doesn't necessarily mean successful...However, having 2 leagues is great for the sport and gives former collegiate players a way to earn some extra supplemental income for something that they love doing and for the top players, it gives them a chance to earn more money through endorsement deals.


As the previous poster said there's always someone willing to take your money. My son did it for two years after college and it was crazy travel combined with no money and then you have to fill out tax returns for every state that you played in, as much as he loved the game it was a real headache


Not a Tax expert but I am calling BS on this one. People travel around the country for work everyday, they do not pay tax in every state that they work in. Could be wrong but this sounds like BS.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/03/18 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW..... I am late to all of this but here is my thoughts.... it may take a bit.
As far as the Internet tough guy/evaluators.... concerning the 2015 class (the ones picked for the U.S U-19 team) as a control case.

one of the goalies picked for the U19 team (supposedly the best) has been benched and has not retained her spot (NU) he other has been replaced multiple times because of poor play(ND) meanwhile, goalies that got less press are on the #1(SB) and #2 (BC) teams in the country, and two of the best players in the country (Apuzzo and Leavy) were passed over for lesser players today (Ortega and Miller)So just maybe how you play when you're 13 or 14 doesn't really mean that much when your 20.

Seeing as this is a LI thread...... looking at Florida... it seems the "me first" "go to goal" play from the sisters from the YJ club do more to hurt them than help, while the real deal player (from Liberty, I know you YJ lovers will hate this, but it is true) is the only real Tewaaraton worthy player on the team. In reality, no YJ player is really worthy this year or next (Except maybe Ortega from UNC) but definitely players from TG and Lib are.

Fall ball means Nothing.... when your daughter gets to college you will realize this

All coaches (especially college coaches) are lying to you. unless you are in the top 1%........ and no your kid is not one of them.

Spallina is the worst thing to happen to woman lacrosse, but is a great coach

Northwestern only seems better because they are not playing the hardest schedule this year.... average at best. gets by on n name recognition ( but so does 'cuse



Dude you seem to be the most uninformed know it all internet posting loser in a long time .You have no idea why the NW goalie lost her starting spot nor do you have a clue why the ND goalie has been replaced in certain games. The fact that a few goalies that got less press are on the top teams does not indicate they are the best goalies you dope. As much as I detest losers like you putting young girls names on the site to tear them down you show your ignorance as one of your “ lesser players today” is a mid season first team all American while one of your best players in the country is not team 1,2, or 3 . Keep your idiotic opinions to yourself as you obviously have some sort of strange crush on CR and it just makes you so angry she finds you effeminate.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/03/18 03:45 AM

So, how is the 2017 recruiting class from Long Island making out so far this season? How are the girls on some of the top teams doing? Any surprises in terms of the girls that are excelling, the ones getting playing time or surprises regarding the ones that are seeing much of the field? Just curious on everyone's thoughts.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/03/18 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW..... I am late to all of this but here is my thoughts.... it may take a bit.
As far as the Internet tough guy/evaluators.... concerning the 2015 class (the ones picked for the U.S U-19 team) as a control case.

one of the goalies picked for the U19 team (supposedly the best) has been benched and has not retained her spot (NU) he other has been replaced multiple times because of poor play(ND) meanwhile, goalies that got less press are on the #1(SB) and #2 (BC) teams in the country, and two of the best players in the country (Apuzzo and Leavy) were passed over for lesser players today (Ortega and Miller)So just maybe how you play when you're 13 or 14 doesn't really mean that much when your 20.

Seeing as this is a LI thread...... looking at Florida... it seems the "me first" "go to goal" play from the sisters from the YJ club do more to hurt them than help, while the real deal player (from Liberty, I know you YJ lovers will hate this, but it is true) is the only real Tewaaraton worthy player on the team. In reality, no YJ player is really worthy this year or next (Except maybe Ortega from UNC) but definitely players from TG and Lib are.

Fall ball means Nothing.... when your daughter gets to college you will realize this

All coaches (especially college coaches) are lying to you. unless you are in the top 1%........ and no your kid is not one of them.

Spallina is the worst thing to happen to woman lacrosse, but is a great coach

Northwestern only seems better because they are not playing the hardest schedule this year.... average at best. gets by on n name recognition ( but so does 'cuse


Agree YJ players are always about the "me"
Agree on Fall Ball
Agree about the LI delusion thinking they are ALL top 1 percenters
Agree Spallina is bad. Bad sportsman. Bad with rules. Bad with stat padding
Agree with a few teams holding on to their rankings based on reputation. Fact is there still is very little depth of teams to take their place
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/03/18 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW..... I am late to all of this but here is my thoughts.... it may take a bit.
As far as the Internet tough guy/evaluators.... concerning the 2015 class (the ones picked for the U.S U-19 team) as a control case.

one of the goalies picked for the U19 team (supposedly the best) has been benched and has not retained her spot (NU) he other has been replaced multiple times because of poor play(ND) meanwhile, goalies that got less press are on the #1(SB) and #2 (BC) teams in the country, and two of the best players in the country (Apuzzo and Leavy) were passed over for lesser players today (Ortega and Miller)So just maybe how you play when you're 13 or 14 doesn't really mean that much when your 20.

Seeing as this is a LI thread...... looking at Florida... it seems the "me first" "go to goal" play from the sisters from the YJ club do more to hurt them than help, while the real deal player (from Liberty, I know you YJ lovers will hate this, but it is true) is the only real Tewaaraton worthy player on the team. In reality, no YJ player is really worthy this year or next (Except maybe Ortega from UNC) but definitely players from TG and Lib are.

Fall ball means Nothing.... when your daughter gets to college you will realize this

All coaches (especially college coaches) are lying to you. unless you are in the top 1%........ and no your kid is not one of them.

Spallina is the worst thing to happen to woman lacrosse, but is a great coach

Northwestern only seems better because they are not playing the hardest schedule this year.... average at best. gets by on n name recognition ( but so does 'cuse


Agree YJ players are always about the "me"
Agree on Fall Ball
Agree about the LI delusion thinking they are ALL top 1 percenters
Agree Spallina is bad. Bad sportsman. Bad with rules. Bad with stat padding
Agree with a few teams holding on to their rankings based on reputation. Fact is there still is very little depth of teams to take their place


Agree you both are clowns
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/03/18 03:20 PM


[/quote]

Agree you both are clowns[/quote]

Another Parent of a 1 percenter. Congratulations
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 04/03/18 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous



Agree you both are clowns[/quote]

Another Parent of a 1 percenter. Congratulations[/quote]

Another know it all braggart
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/18/18 12:35 PM

1 Week in and can't wait for this summer season to be over
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/18/18 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW..... I am late to all of this but here is my thoughts.... it may take a bit.
As far as the Internet tough guy/evaluators.... concerning the 2015 class (the ones picked for the U.S U-19 team) as a control case.

one of the goalies picked for the U19 team (supposedly the best) has been benched and has not retained her spot (NU) he other has been replaced multiple times because of poor play(ND) meanwhile, goalies that got less press are on the #1(SB) and #2 (BC) teams in the country, and two of the best players in the country (Apuzzo and Leavy) were passed over for lesser players today (Ortega and Miller)So just maybe how you play when you're 13 or 14 doesn't really mean that much when your 20.

Seeing as this is a LI thread...... looking at Florida... it seems the "me first" "go to goal" play from the sisters from the YJ club do more to hurt them than help, while the real deal player (from Liberty, I know you YJ lovers will hate this, but it is true) is the only real Tewaaraton worthy player on the team. In reality, no YJ player is really worthy this year or next (Except maybe Ortega from UNC) but definitely players from TG and Lib are.

Fall ball means Nothing.... when your daughter gets to college you will realize this

All coaches (especially college coaches) are lying to you. unless you are in the top 1%........ and no your kid is not one of them.

Spallina is the worst thing to happen to woman lacrosse, but is a great coach

Northwestern only seems better because they are not playing the hardest schedule this year.... average at best. gets by on n name recognition ( but so does 'cuse



Dude you seem to be the most uninformed know it all internet posting loser in a long time .You have no idea why the NW goalie lost her starting spot nor do you have a clue why the ND goalie has been replaced in certain games. The fact that a few goalies that got less press are on the top teams does not indicate they are the best goalies you dope. As much as I detest losers like you putting young girls names on the site to tear them down you show your ignorance as one of your “ lesser players today” is a mid season first team all American while one of your best players in the country is not team 1,2, or 3 . Keep your idiotic opinions to yourself as you obviously have some sort of strange crush on CR and it just makes you so angry she finds you effeminate.



What happened to the original poster ? Could it be that YJ had 9-10 D1 AA, TG 2-3, Lib 2-3.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/27/18 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW..... I am late to all of this but here is my thoughts.... it may take a bit.
As far as the Internet tough guy/evaluators.... concerning the 2015 class (the ones picked for the U.S U-19 team) as a control case.

one of the goalies picked for the U19 team (supposedly the best) has been benched and has not retained her spot (NU) he other has been replaced multiple times because of poor play(ND) meanwhile, goalies that got less press are on the #1(SB) and #2 (BC) teams in the country, and two of the best players in the country (Apuzzo and Leavy) were passed over for lesser players today (Ortega and Miller)So just maybe how you play when you're 13 or 14 doesn't really mean that much when your 20.

Seeing as this is a LI thread...... looking at Florida... it seems the "me first" "go to goal" play from the sisters from the YJ club do more to hurt them than help, while the real deal player (from Liberty, I know you YJ lovers will hate this, but it is true) is the only real Tewaaraton worthy player on the team. In reality, no YJ player is really worthy this year or next (Except maybe Ortega from UNC) but definitely players from TG and Lib are.

Fall ball means Nothing.... when your daughter gets to college you will realize this

All coaches (especially college coaches) are lying to you. unless you are in the top 1%........ and no your kid is not one of them.

Spallina is the worst thing to happen to woman lacrosse, but is a great coach

Northwestern only seems better because they are not playing the hardest schedule this year.... average at best. gets by on n name recognition ( but so does 'cuse


I think Kelly Amonte is the worst thing to happen to girls lacrosse - watching all the smug fourth grade and up PAL and club coaches and every HS coach running a stall in every relatively competitive game has made it unwatchable, it has set the game back 20 years and it's not teaching young players a skill that is worth anything - need shot clock in HS now
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/28/18 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
WOW..... I am late to all of this but here is my thoughts.... it may take a bit.
As far as the Internet tough guy/evaluators.... concerning the 2015 class (the ones picked for the U.S U-19 team) as a control case.

one of the goalies picked for the U19 team (supposedly the best) has been benched and has not retained her spot (NU) he other has been replaced multiple times because of poor play(ND) meanwhile, goalies that got less press are on the #1(SB) and #2 (BC) teams in the country, and two of the best players in the country (Apuzzo and Leavy) were passed over for lesser players today (Ortega and Miller)So just maybe how you play when you're 13 or 14 doesn't really mean that much when your 20.

Seeing as this is a LI thread...... looking at Florida... it seems the "me first" "go to goal" play from the sisters from the YJ club do more to hurt them than help, while the real deal player (from Liberty, I know you YJ lovers will hate this, but it is true) is the only real Tewaaraton worthy player on the team. In reality, no YJ player is really worthy this year or next (Except maybe Ortega from UNC) but definitely players from TG and Lib are.

Fall ball means Nothing.... when your daughter gets to college you will realize this

All coaches (especially college coaches) are lying to you. unless you are in the top 1%........ and no your kid is not one of them.

Spallina is the worst thing to happen to woman lacrosse, but is a great coach

Northwestern only seems better because they are not playing the hardest schedule this year.... average at best. gets by on n name recognition ( but so does 'cuse
seriously, I encourage all Nassau girls to look at Liberty. We have great relationships with a few of the Ivies and top 10 Universities. You have the best of both worlds 1) the academic reputation of many Nassau schools and 2) competitive lacrosse!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/28/18 12:40 AM

And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/28/18 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/28/18 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .


Yes. Liberty 2021 beat YJ 2021 last season. The Yj then won at nationals (age based not grade) but they had their 2020 draw girl who they couldn’t have won without. (YJ can now dispute)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/28/18 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .


Yes. Liberty 2021 beat YJ 2021 last season. The Yj then won at nationals (age based not grade) but they had their 2020 draw girl who they couldn’t have won without. (YJ can now dispute)

This year Liberty tied Legacy, TG black. Stop living in the past.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/28/18 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .


Yes. Liberty 2021 beat YJ 2021 last season. The Yj then won at nationals (age based not grade) but they had their 2020 draw girl who they couldn’t have won without. (YJ can now dispute)

This year Liberty tied Legacy, TG black. Stop living in the past.


And YJ lost to steps B team. So about equal I would say.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/28/18 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .


Yes. Liberty 2021 beat YJ 2021 last season. The Yj then won at nationals (age based not grade) but they had their 2020 draw girl who they couldn’t have won without. (YJ can now dispute)

This year Liberty tied Legacy, TG black. Stop living in the past.


And YJ lost to steps B team. So about equal I would say.


20 minute game...
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/28/18 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .




what was the unethical behavior?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/28/18 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .


Yes. Liberty 2021 beat YJ 2021 last season. The Yj then won at nationals (age based not grade) but they had their 2020 draw girl who they couldn’t have won without. (YJ can now dispute)


I really hope you were not at the Nationals game, not sure how that could be your analysis. YJ played with a single 2020 player, she did not take the draw, she played on the draw circle. YJ ran two middie lines evenly throughout the event, including that game. the 2020 play half of the first half. She played a quarter of the second half as YJ played some of the girls at different positions to get more playing time for the entire second part of the second half. She did not even play half the game. You got beat badly, I would just take it and move on, does not diminish the game you won earlier in the season.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/28/18 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .


Yes. Liberty 2021 beat YJ 2021 last season. The Yj then won at nationals (age based not grade) but they had their 2020 draw girl who they couldn’t have won without. (YJ can now dispute)


I really hope you were not at the Nationals game, not sure how that could be your analysis. YJ played with a single 2020 player, she did not take the draw, she played on the draw circle. YJ ran two middie lines evenly throughout the event, including that game. the 2020 play half of the first half. She played a quarter of the second half as YJ played some of the girls at different positions to get more playing time for the entire second part of the second half. She did not even play half the game. You got beat badly, I would just take it and move on, does not diminish the game you won earlier in the season.



And yet she was your leading scorer and MVP of the game or something like that. She was the best player on your team and without her maybe the results are closer to what happened when you played without her .That said bravo to that kid as in this day and age of holdbacks it seems she had not needed that sort of a cheat to be good .
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/28/18 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .


Yes. Liberty 2021 beat YJ 2021 last season. The Yj then won at nationals (age based not grade) but they had their 2020 draw girl who they couldn’t have won without. (YJ can now dispute)

This year Liberty tied Legacy, TG black. Stop living in the past.


And YJ lost to steps B team. So about equal I would say.


20 minute game...


Couldnt handle a B team for 20 minutes? Wait they must have stalled! Your best player was sick or at a graduation? Didn’t try hard because you’re all committed? Always an excuse. You’re the best. No one cares but you. Feel better now?

Question was has liberty ever beaten yj. Answer is yes.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/29/18 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .


Yes. Liberty 2021 beat YJ 2021 last season. The Yj then won at nationals (age based not grade) but they had their 2020 draw girl who they couldn’t have won without. (YJ can now dispute)

This year

Question was has liberty ever beaten yj. Answer is yes.


The most recent relevant Win was at the girls lax Class B Long Island championships 😂😂😂😅😅😅😄😄😄🤣🤣🤣
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/29/18 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .


Yes. Liberty 2021 beat YJ 2021 last season. The Yj then won at nationals (age based not grade) but they had their 2020 draw girl who they couldn’t have won without. (YJ can now dispute)

This year Liberty tied Legacy, TG black. Stop living in the past.

Liberty 2020 black tied TG Black and Legacy Blue?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/29/18 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .


Yes. Liberty 2021 beat YJ 2021 last season. The Yj then won at nationals (age based not grade) but they had their 2020 draw girl who they couldn’t have won without. (YJ can now dispute)

This year Liberty tied Legacy, TG black. Stop living in the past.

Liberty 2020 black tied TG Black and Legacy Blue?

2021 wouldn't be so bad if it were 2020, but legacy 2021 is a struggling b team.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 06/30/18 10:59 AM

Liberty 2020 black did not tie legacy blue
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 07/15/18 03:29 PM

How are the LI teams doing at Mid-Atlantic?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 07/15/18 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
How are the LI teams doing at Mid-Atlantic?

Everyone is good except Leg and TG teams
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 07/16/18 07:19 PM

Getting close to getting this freak show of an age group fired up as they enter their jr year!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Girls 2020 - 10th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018 - 07/16/18 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
And boy did the YJs stink at LFTC


Liberty is over and done , now that DG got fired most likely for some unethical behavior there is no reason for the Manhasset spoiled brats to play Liberty .Has a liberty team ever beaten a YJ team , I think when YJ 2016 team beat the Liberty 2015 team was turning point and Leberty was never competitive again .


Son, as for Liberty vs YJ...didn't Manhasset send ESM home in LI championships like last month? have a seat will you.
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