It's the start of the Fall 2016/Spring 2017 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group

So who are the top teams? Seems like YJ Wright, Igloo, and TG. Where is everyone trying out. It will begin to get serious for the girls this year!

All the top teams are in MD

Unfortunately, that's not an option if you live on LI. Which teams will develop the girls best here?

So Wright is officially the A team for YJ and Thorn is the B? Do you think they will mix them up at all after tryouts this year?

The Wright parents are definitely on here chest pounding, unfortunately I don't think in this case it is the B team is so good that you can consider them an A caliber team. What you have here is the A team is so bad, they should be considered a B team. Both of these teams got lumped up badly this summer. They should just lump em all together at tryouts and make the A team from scratch. Not sure they would put a team together that can get it done down in MD, but there should be some degree of separation between the two teams within the club.

There will be shakeups in YJ 2023 the A team losing to the B team is not acceptable. The A team needs talent.

YJ & TG will get things figured out and continue as tops on LI. All others are trailing. Igloo too new to be considered top....and will be surprised if igloo even enters strong tourneys this year. New program last year that entered weak to moderate tourneys

Igloo parents are tired of losing. The talent on the team is too good to be losing to TG and YJ every single time they play. Many of the girls outside of the Northshore core are looking at other teams, and I would be surprised if Igloo is intact next year.

The Thorn team has talent. What they need is a coach who isn't Thorn.

Igloo… same origins as fl$ and Elevate … daddy coaches who think they can do it better than the rest and want to be able to control their "stud" kids' playing time and position … so they don't want to have their kids play for one of core teams and risk not being highlighted the way they want their kids to be. Problem is, getting enough talent to follow them into the fire is tough.

Elevate is full of parent coaches, just look at the director. Along with the rest of the parent coaches! Just awful.

Kids from the elite empire 2023 at 91 tryouts. Guess they wanna play A tournaments. Lol

Honestly bunch of horse dung posted. The 2 YJ 20 23 teams are close in talent, I'm other factors came into play. if the tourney wins are up Thorn won 3 Wright 0. Wright has many great kids as well and this should be the year skill gets rewarded not politics and who knows who's older sister etc. they have 30 A players 20 B ones. At 10 and 11 please be quiet as its still a year or 2 before cream rises. Some seem great because above average stick but no physical or IQ. Some great PAL size warriors who dump out as others grow fixing size is issues and proving Goto Goal is junk. Some political, those well if kept A then A is A for Arse. A 4'6 good kid becomes a 5'6 stud by 13. A 5'4 PAL ball hog becomes 5'7 dud low IQ. Amazing the lack of knowledge in so many posts.

Igloo was good, Thorn beat them 3 out of 4 but the loss was bad. Igloo has some 5'5 monsters. Will their other skills develop? I MO if already there they wouldn't have lost. Fact is there are 100 or so above average 2023 girls. Next 2 years you see who grows and if the growers have sixe, skills and IQ. At this age Size can be enough. soon, no way. You need all 3, if not 2.75. Be happy LI has a good crop. But push your girls to be their best, all you can do unless politics rules. Then you on wrong team. Good luck all.

The Thorn team has talent. What they need is a coach who isn't Thorn.

If Thorn had talent you should be able to roll a ball out and they should be able to beat the B team easily.

Not when B team has close talent and on any given Sunday. But yes A trumps B but some years they stay close till end. Depends on how many A players and if any B / c or worse still on A, I'm not sure how that happens? Those 2 teams are razor close. Coaching, they both skilled that's why they are there. Read above post and educate yourself. YJ happens to be one franchise when B can beat A, wrong but doable at younger ages. if it continues past 6th grade, than something a foul.

Wright team plays to have fun, that's the difference. Don't underestimate those girls, they train hard and will get the job done. They ran faster, dodged better, defended fiercely, saved goals, and shot harder and more effeciently. Thorn had no answer. That's what a true team does, play together to win! Wright is the best coach for this age group, she makes every girl better, and happy to be a part of the team. Not one parent on that team would say otherwise.

I assume if picked for A in tryouts they will decline then? Anything possible as playing for a great coach who utilizes your abilities and playing with non ball hogs as well. Time will tell but really, the difference in talent is very close. that's good. Easy on bragging so hard if part of YJ family. Poor taste, poor tatse.

A forget it you'll take A slot if given, right? I mean earned.

Can you put in order the best Maryland clubs in order:

M&D
Skywalkers
Diamonds
C2
Redshirts
Heros
Coppermine

How many TG players will there be at YJ this year?

How many TG players will there be at YJ this year?

I'm sure plenty everyone knows YJ is the top program

How many TG players will there be at YJ this year?

Yj can use some of those players

I am hearing that it will be the other way around. YJ girls heading TG way this year in this age group.

If you can get on M&D, Heros or Skywalkers it always will end up being the best. Maybe not this year, but by the time they get to 7th grade or so they will always be the cream of the crop. Plus, it's easiest to make it at a young age and it's always easier to stay on the team then try to make it later.

YJ cant touch TG in this age group. Do not be surprised to see YJ players at TG tryouts.

Nice turnout at 91 tryout today

good luck with TG and college coaches with a roster of 25

good luck with TG and college coaches with a roster of 25

Andrew Smith is the 2023 black coach. YJ 2023 blue roster is 26 with a parent coach.

Hmmmm? These teams should be capped at 20-21 tops. Not fair to the girls. If my daughter was on the cusp, I would much rather her play on a B team with a smaller roster. It is a ridiculous money grab which hurts the girls, and coaches.

And the B teams aren't money grabs?

Not always, look at YJ. B team beat A and had fewer girls on roster.

Don't be surprised with TG girls at Liberty tryouts this year with the Wantagh HS coach now involved there. Could be lots of movement at this age as it starts to get a little more competitive.

If a B team is close to an A team
This year tryouts have to be a complete overhaul
I would go as far to say try outs should be run by impartial 3rd party with no ties to any of the players - coaches or families

Lol. You must be new here.

No just wishful thinking
Wouldn't want the correct hing to be done for all girls concerned

When are Yellow Jackets tryouts for the 2023 group. My daughter was not happy with her organization as a lot of practices were cancelled and it showed in the tournaments. She is an above average player would be a very good B player and a Mid level A player.

That south shore program has a very good varsity coach running the 2023's..Rosters will be no more than 22




Hmmmm? These teams should be capped at 20-21 tops. Not fair to the girls. If my daughter was on the cusp, I would much rather her play on a B team with a smaller roster. It is a ridiculous money grab which hurts the girls, and coaches. [/quote

"That south shore program has a very good varsity coach running the 2023's..Rosters will be no more than 22"

Nice try RG, No one cares to join your team or program. What's the matter, Not Enough BBP girls to pad your pockets?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahah. wake up man

Lots of YJ bags at leg tryout

Lots of Dbags at EVERY tryout..

Including yours?

I see what you did there.....

Crickets

No having a B or 2nd team is vital part of growing a program
It keeps players on A team striving to keep the spot they have and gives players on 2nd team something to push them to reach top team while staying in the same program
C&D teams are $ grabs

Thinking about moving my daughter to Legacy. How is RG working out as coach?

[quote=Anonymous]Thinking about moving my daughter to Legacy. How is RG working out as coach?

Awesome whats not to like about RG

Thanks RG!!

Very helpful

Actually RG and SL are both douches who have sold their souls. I would suggest you stay where you are as you are in for quite the surprise. If your kid is a A player then run far and fast, if your kid is a B or lower then its the right program for you.

Just curious about them being "douches who have sold their souls" - in what way? Not trying to stir the pot. Genuinely curious. Thanks!

Jealosy, pure jealosy. Sorry your kid got cut

Any teams going to the Fall Classic in PA this weekend?

Nobody decent is playing there and I am sure there will. W ZERO college coaches there

Doubt they cut any kids. It is a new program.

Actually RG and SL are both douches who have sold their souls. I would suggest you stay where you are as you are in for quite the surprise. If your kid is a A player then run far and fast, if your kid is a B or lower then its the right program for you.

Leg is very weak in this age group

RG doesn't develop players. By the time they get to his HS team most have been trained by the best. He rides the coat tails of other programs. He's just going to further weaken 2023.

Didn't some of the RG 2023 already bail on the program? Thats always a good sign.

You mean like YJ does?

Didn't some of the RG 2023 already bail on the program? Thats always a good sign.

They realized that leg is not a good program and RG is a mediocre coach. Leg was one of the weakest teams in the 23 age group last summer.

You are talking a lot of nonsense. The team picked up 3 of the best YJ B team players (who beat YJ A). This will be a strong team. Coach is excellent and with the new talent should have a great year.

You are talking a lot of nonsense. The team picked up 3 of the best YJ B team players (who beat YJ A). This will be a strong team. Coach is excellent and with the new talent should have a great year.

YJ B team will take a big step back. Their top player went to TG.

You are talking a lot of nonsense. The team picked up 3 of the best YJ B team players (who beat YJ A). This will be a strong team. Coach is excellent and with the new talent should have a great year.

Great? Those players better be great. Igloo dismantled Leg this past summer.

Really? The best "B" team players. HaHa .You must be a master evaluator. Send your resume to the ACC and Big 10. They obviously need your expertise.

YJ B will be Ok, They got back one of the better A players who was moved up last year. that girl was moved back to B. Not sure why? She is tall and athletic and will be a big asset to B who will be good as A. TG will be improved with the two YJ girls. Igloo will be good also. not sure about Liberty at this age. Should be a few competitive teams from LI at this age.

Really? The best "B" team players. HaHa .You must be a master evaluator. Send your resume to the ACC and Big 10. They obviously need your expertise. [/quote]

Well being that the B team beat the "A" team, I'll correct myself and say that 3 of the best YJ players went to leg. Best because they all were bIf contributors to a solid season.

As was your parenting skills and social life...grow up

Well being that the B team beat the "A" team, I'll correct myself and say that 3 of the best YJ players went to leg. Best because they all were bIf contributors to a solid season.[/quote]


Adults talking about youth sports?
this is such a joke...enjoy your families this holiday season and ask santa for a life

YJ B will be Ok, They got back one of the better A players who was moved up last year. that girl was moved back to B. Not sure why? She is tall and athletic and will be a big asset to B who will be good as A. TG will be improved with the two YJ girls. Igloo will be good also. not sure about Liberty at this age. Should be a few competitive teams from LI at this age.

There is no way the B team even challenges the A team when they play. The B team lost too much talent.

2023 seems to be a very down year for LI. YJ's always puts a top team together at every other age group that can beat or at least trade wins with the top 2-3 Md teams. Not this age group and the fact that the other LI clubs boast a team as good as the YJ for this age group still doesn't make them competitive with Md. It is entertaining to watch parents scurrying around, but still think YJ has the only real shot at putting a Md worthy together, it may just take a year or to for the talent to converge.

YJ aholes always have something to say. When they get called out, funny they have nothing to say!

[quote=Anonymous]2023 seems to be a very down year for LI. YJ's always puts a top team together at every other age group that can beat or at least trade wins with the top 2-3 Md teams. Not this age group and the fact that the other LI clubs boast a team as good as the YJ for this age group still doesn't make them competitive with Md. It is entertaining to watch parents scurrying around, but still think YJ has the only real shot at putting a Md worthy together, it may just take a year or to for the talent to converge.

YJ 23 kept too many friends and family look at the other rosters lots of siblings on the older teams that combined with a daddy coach leads to another poor season. This team didn't get the overhaul they needed.

Ha ha ha...yep. It's classic bully behavior, from classic a-hole bullies. And, the head bully directs it all...some guy named cr. Can't coach either. Ha ha ha ha ha...demise of yj can't arrive soon enough.

His top HS players came out of YJ - he had nothing to do with their development.

Bayport owes much of it success to YJs and even a little to TGs. They are obviously moving in a different direction going all in at Leggy sea. First it was a group of disgruntled players, then the varsity coach, now the young hopeful future players. I know there is already pressure that parents feel to play for them. I think it is actually bad for the program moving forward. Said club has one decent team at 2020, but the other age groups are super non competitive. We will see how awkward this situation becomes in the years to come, and how damaging harvesting from a non competitive club environment will be.

Small club...best off season system on LI!!! Those kids there are in trouble?
They won't grow as players...oh wait, that's the bigger clubs were that happens

If RG was half the coach you think he is, BBP would have won the state championships last year instead of falling to Mount Sinai, again, in the county championship. MS graduated most of their talent the year before and BBP had the #1 recruit in the country. RG still couldn't get it done. Yeah, I want that guy coaching my kid.

Yes, you have clearly been sold on it. And for nearly all the kids it maybe an okay option. But it will be a disservice for a few players here and there that have potential for better lacrosse. Training in a small pond with small fish, playing in small pond tournaments against other small pond teams. Teams will never sniff truely competitive lax. It puts a ceiling on a few kids who could otherwise rise to the top. I'm not trying to convince you, people in the know will agree, if you haven't gone through it yet, able to look back and reflect, you may argue. But most likely the top kids will opt out anyway, seems to be the case already.

opt out of what? Better training year round? No back stabbing non-sense! You all drink that kool aid and think it is the only way...And MS defense was superior athletically over BBP...# 1 Recruit is more of a defensive kid..kids played a little tight...happens
But you all seem to have superior knowledge to how this all works...

For whomever feels the need to try and bash RG, I know you are getting really nervous because RG is by far the top coach in the 2023 age group! You should be nervous! He is the most dedicated coach in Suffolk County to his girls. He works endlessly to train and develop them. Yes! Develop them! He starts working with them in 6th grade to get them ready for varsity level. He puts all of his own time into these girls. There is no one that puts the time and dedication that he puts in. Anyone who has otherwise to say has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Legacy is an up and coming program that is developing. They are training year round with top notch training. Of course they are not going to have all of the top teams because it just started a few years ago! It however has all of the makings to create the elite teams on long Island. They are taking all of the political bull [lacrosse] out of the club. What people should be looking for is a club that will make their child the best they can be. A club where their child walks out with a big smile on their face and where they just absorbed a crazy amount of information. A club where every player is treated like family! To those who think that colleges are not recruiting from other programs will soon see all of the d1 recruits coming out. That is what Legacy is and what players will soon realize when they stop playing into the yj bull [lacrosse]. Never have I ever posted on this stupid forum, everyone needs to get a grip. I couldn't handle the senseless bashing any longer.

My daughter plays for a different team, but I will have to agree with you. YJ thinks they have it all locked up. This age group may be different. I know the YJ girls that went over to Zum team, they are solid. Good things will happen and I am happy about that. it will be fun to see this age group be competitive with each other. And FYI, you will never shut up the Yellow [lacrosse] Stains. Can't wait to see their faces when you beat them!

Thanks RG. Where do I sign my daughter up?

legacy

Here's a fact; when they beat YJ which is a good possibility, CR will send out her scouting minions and the best girls will be playing for YJ. CR may not develop talent but she knows how to spot it.

And poach it.

My daughter plays for a different team, but I will have to agree with you. YJ thinks they have it all locked up. This age group may be different. I know the YJ girls that went over to Zum team, they are solid. Good things will happen and I am happy about that. it will be fun to see this age group be competitive with each other. And FYI, you will never shut up the Yellow [lacrosse] Stains. Can't wait to see their faces when you beat them!

There is no way Leg beats YJ. They are at best the 5th or 6th best team on Island in that age group.

I think I'm this age group Igloo and Top Guns are the top two. Jesters also has a solid team. Strong age group all around.

Ummm....TG already beat YJ, and YJ barely got by Igloo, sorry YJ mommy, do you have to be reminded again How you lost to your B team two years in a row, and still want to call yourself the best on LI?? Give me a break!

Ummm....TG already beat YJ, and YJ barely got by Igloo, sorry YJ mommy, do you have to be reminded again How you lost to your B team two years in a row, and still want to call yourself the best on LI?? Give me a break!

Please stop with the B team they won a couple of fluke games against us. Just to clarify we beat Igloo not once but twice and as far as TG they have a talented team that I'm sure CR will be recruiting in the near future.

YJ 2023 is 3-1 vs. Igloo and beat up Jesters twice in scrimmages played like games.

Top Guns has a nice team in 2023.

How is it a fluke? A convenient thing for a loser to say. YJ A only won by one goal at the last few seconds to Igloo, a game that could have easily gone either way. There are a few other solid 2023 teams on LI. We will see what happens when games are played. YJ A is just another team in the mix, and certainly not above any of the other good teams, can you just admit this?

"You" only played them twice and lost twice. Thats not a fluke girlfriend. It means either CR can't pick a team (not likely) or your coach sucks. I'm going to go with the latter. Why would the TG girls want to come over exactly? You are dreaming. I'll have what you're having! Happy New Year!

How is it a fluke? A convenient thing for a loser to say. YJ A only won by one goal at the last few seconds to Igloo, a game that could have easily gone either way. There are a few other solid 2023 teams on LI. We will see what happens when games are played. YJ A is just another team in the mix, and certainly not above any of the other good teams, can you just admit this?

I know that YJA will beat YJB and Igloo this summer no doubt about it.

The total opposite, very weak age group for LI. A whole bunch of mediocre teams and none of them can separate from low level. LI always has teams that can run with the top dogs in MD, not even close in 2023. "Go to Goal" play at its worst!

Let's slow down by including the Jesters as a top team.
Do they have a few strong players, yeah but by no means are they in the top ring. They have the potential to be very strong in the years to come, but not there yet. Overall, a very good 2nd level team. They do not play in strong tournaments. Don't think they've ever played TG and another poster references scrimmages vs YJ. Let's see them step up their competition this summer and see where they fit.
And as long as they keep 7th graders on the roster, they'll always be a joke.

The total opposite, very weak age group for LI. A whole bunch of mediocre teams and none of them can separate from low level. LI always has teams that can run with the top dogs in MD, not even close in 2023. "Go to Goal" play at its worst!

Go to Goal YJA training at its best.

Unfortunately, "go to goal" is what girls lacrosse has become. It's an awful game to watch. There is no team play anymore. Clubs want wins. Plain and simple. And when there's literally nothing stopping a girl from running right to the cage and shooting, coaches and teams are rewarding that behavior. As much as it may pain those of us who love the look and style of "real" team lax, we need to tell our daughters that if they want to score, or be noticed, then they need to become more of a ball hog and take it to the net. It's a shame, but no one notices the girls who grind it out, scoop gb's, cause to's or pass to the open girl. Those team players get the shaft because everyone talks about the girl who puts her head down and closes her eyes while running through 3 girls to get the free possession. The only way this will ever stop is if girls are called for charging, and we know how often that happens... never!

I say put them in gear and let them check those sticks more freely. That will stop it. Other than that, the only option is to teach your girl to go to abandon the team and attack the cage with True wreck less abandon.

Thats why they keep losing to B

Thats why they keep losing to B

Honestly the B team lost too much talent to be competitive

I completely agree. Girls lacrosse in it's current state is sad. No teamwork. All go to goal mentality. Parents support it and feed it. Even in their interaction with other parents and the coaches. Me me me. Many of the girls who are successful are selfish and where did they learn that? Their parents. So all the pettiness comes from them and is exhibited on the sidelines as well as the field. Girls lacrosse is the cesspool of the lacrosse world.

Now to the second part of the original post. You don't see nearly as much of the terrible behavior on the boys side. Barreling through 3 boys to get to the cage will get your son crushed and possibly (hopefully not) injured. Team play is a requirement because otherwise the players get HURT. Boys learn quickly that having the ball in their stick is not always a good thing. Many (but not all) parents encourage their boys to move the ball. The parents generally get along and there is a sense of team that extends not only with the players but the parents themselves. Overall, a much nicer environment.

So then the question - why two sports? The ice hockey ladies seem to manage with the same equipment and similar rules. Or even if you can't support that idea, why not let the girls at least stick check when they start playing in 2nd grade so girls learn to move the ball at an early age.

No 7th graders on roster, and no one from team came on here saying they were best team. They are competitive! That is where everyone should want to be.

No 7th graders on roster, and no one from team came on here saying they were best team. They are competitive! That is where everyone should want to be.

TG and Igloo both beat Jesters handily last summer at the Hofstra tournament.

SO????

RG never played a second of lacrosse in his life. You can have him lololol

You are right, GO TO GOAL girls, all of them. No teamwork, or selective teamwork ( I pass to you and you pass back to me). None of these girls will be able to play on a real team ever. Parents are sideline coaching them to behave this way, terrified of girls with raw talent. Terrified of someone better coming along. The problem is this 2023 year has BAD PARENTS turning out kids that can't be coached properly. Keep it up parents, you're making plenty of room for the kids that rise above this garbage. Kudos to them.

Yes you can have the gym teacher

Boohoo your kid didn't make the cut or was cut. Sorry but time to move on and enjoy your new club. This team will be just fine and remember there's YJA and everyone else!

Hahaha, YJ"A" has been beaten by the "B" team two years in a row, as well as by TG. Players are leaving that club due to the poor coaching. Looks like you are in the 'everyone else' group! No crying here, but will be funny to you cry again this summer after you drive to MD, watch you daughter ride pine, while the team takes beatdown after beatdown!

At least YJ smartened up this summer they will avoid the competition and go to the Allstar Express in Delaware rather than go to the Mid Atlantic Summer championship in Maryland. YJ is dominant in most age groups 2023 isn't one of them.

Igloo and Top Guns Black have the top talent in thus age group. YJ can not compete with them.

Again YJ is 3-1 vs. Igloo. Nice team though along with TG. 2023 has three competitive teams on Long Island. Not many other age groups can say that.

YJ has one fluke loss to Igloo. I don't need to see Igloo's summer schedule to know they'll avoid playing us.

YJ "A" picked up three legged dogs, so good luck there. You will be lucky to beat 2024, if that.

THREE LEGGED DOGS? You piece of dog [lacrosse] to say that about player. I have to say your post is something only a bottom feeder would say. You are no longer welcome here.

why was it a fluke? The next game was one goal in final seconds. Typical YJ [lacrosse] response. We know you joined YJ because you were a follower and everyone told you they're the bestest ever. You might try a little humility, looks like we are in for an interesting season. This is good for LI girls lax, I guess bad for you, because you are a pompous bully living though your daughter and teaching her the worst lessons of what it means to be an athlete!

YJ "A" picked up three legged dogs, so good luck there. You will be lucky to beat 2024, if that. [/quote]

Are we talking smack about 6th grade girls? I don't understand the passion filled venom spewed against this age group. Did one of the girls wrong you in some way? Did one the girls not invite your daughter to a Bday party?

Honestly I do not think this is a 2023 YJ parent, at least I hope not. This seems like a pot stirring post.

Are we talking smack about 6th grade girls? I don't understand the passion filled venom spewed against this age group. Did one of the girls wrong you in some way? Did one the girls not invite your daughter to a Bday party? [/quote]

Look at the way YJ parents talk about other clubs, bingo! Where the venom starts. Can dish it out but cry like babies when given back to them.

Look at the way YJ parents talk about other clubs, bingo! Where the venom starts. Can dish it out but cry like babies when given back to them. [/quote]

Great answer. It is one thing to dislike the parents, club, director, etc. quite another to attack a bunch of 11 year girls and wish and cheer on any struggles they may or may not have. I wish your daughter success this Spring and Summer. But you, I wish a flat tire on the way to work tomorrow.

The sad part of all this is the other clubs are not unusually strong at this age, YJ is unusually weak at this age. The end result sadly is ALL LI teams will be getting blown out by the better Maryland teams at this age group.

Well no shake up this year and Thorn is still the coach. Even if we beat B this year it won't be a result of good coaching. For what we pay, we should not have a daddy coach.

that is true..yj 2023 need to change ...looked from tournament schedule they merged the two teams. but then someone posted no. wonder if they will play in same brackets this year. the politics of it is a shame.

What should have happened is the coaches should have been switched. Wright is the better unbiased, positive, talented in getting the best out of players coach. Thorn and the friends and family are b team players and coaches.

Agree! Wright is the bomb. Great coach.

Agree! Wright is the bomb. Great coach.

Now that Wright has lost a lot of talent we will be able to see what a great coach she is.

Wright is a great coach. She teaches teamwork and really develops
Players . She's a great hs coach. Parents on that team don't want to leave unless it's that important to them to be on A. Some left not to be moved
To a team where there is no coaching. The girls learn how it's a strategic game and get So much from her. Anyone who has had an opportunity to be coached by her should consider themselves really lucky.

Yes Wright lost some talent, but really all those girls on that team are talented with great potential. They all were good athletes, positive and determined. That says a lot. Wrights team just gained some great players as well. They will once again be a really great team! With a great leader. There is no doubt if you are on this team...you are going places!

[quote=Anonymous]Yes Wright lost some talent, but really all those girls on that team are talented with great potential. They all were good athletes, positive and determined. That says a lot. Wrights team just gained some great players as well. They will once again be a really great team! With a great leader. There is no doubt if you are on this team...you are going places!

Where did all these great players come from?

The new players will be welcomed and become a part of the team immediately. This is why they will improve and perform. On the other hand, the new "A" players will be treated as second class citizens, and will soon learn that only the "mean girls club"play significant minutes, even when getting blown out.

Bitter much? The gap between these two teams is huge and this summer won't be close.

Nervous much? Nothing to be bitter about here

The girls who left yj and went to legs or tG were in the top 10 players for the yj 2023. They will be missed greatly! The A team parents will be grouchy and unsatisfied again this year.

lmao...there is no gap...One team has a coach the other zip...hopefully those poor thorn girls can really teach themselves the game this year..the girls who left who cares everyone is replaceable..

True, and with Wright, that team will be just fine. At this age, having the right coach makes all the difference!

Coaching makes all the difference. I feel bad for the 2021 team. They complained so much about the coach that she left and now CR is coaching! That woman is only good at counting money. She's an atrocious coach! Maybe she's just there to shut down the most offensive group of parents in the organization??? Be forewarned 2923's, that's going to be your fate next!

2023 TG Black was 27-3 last summer wth 5 tournament championships. 2-2 vs Maryland teams

Which MD teams?

Top Gun....get your own page..clearly unsure of your decision

Only lost one girl who was very talented. The others who left were on par with the rest of the team skill wise. No superstars who left and I have watched them play.

Simmer down Daddy coach. You are as poor a judge of talent as you are with your coaching. That explains your stellar record last year.

[quote=Anonymous] Only lost one girl who was very talented. The others who left were on par with the rest of the team skill wise. No superstars who left and I have watched them play.

From which team Wright or Thorn both teams lost girls

Thorn lost one of the better players, heard they were fed up with the coaching. Wright lost 3 of the top players who didn't want to be moved to A. Guess we will see this season who if any the superstars are. Looks like there will be a number of competitive teams on LI in this age group. Good for the sport, and will make ALL of the girls better for it! It will also be good for the parents, as we will have exciting games to watch! What teams are planning to go to SS this march?

Simmer down Daddy coach. You are as poor a judge of talent as you are with your coaching. That explains your stellar record last year.

Judge of talent ? Really we'll see when they play each other this summer. I know the Blue team is head and shoulders above the gold team and when they play this summer you'll know it too.

I think blue needs to be more worried about lgcy, TG, and Igloo!

Worried about Leg or Igloo, now that's laughable

Can you take the YJ talk to the YJ thread..... your ridiculousness will fit right in with the rest of they crazies!!

Sorry... what's SS

A march st, Pats tournament that's not allowed to be mentioned by name here😫

You must be kidding. The 3 Wright girls that left went to chase their town varsity coach in hopes that if they suck up for the next few years they might see the field before they graduate. Those girls were NEVER. NEVER. going to A. If it was offered it was because CR was playing games to keep those checks coming. They'd be back on B in a season once the parents burnt their bridges with Leg. YJ parents are so stupid.

You have no idea what you're talking about!

What about the A player moved down who was one of the better A girls? 3 B team players moved up. One left for TG. Good luck getting any playing time to the others especially since they now carry 3 goalies, ridiculous!. Few of the best B team players didn't go to tryouts because they joined Leg, very talented girls who contributed to B team success. Top A team player left for TG. Those are the facts.

[quote=Anonymous]What about the A player moved down who was one of the better A girls? 3 B team players moved up. One left for TG. Good luck getting any playing time to the others especially since they now carry 3 goalies, ridiculous!. Few of the best B team players didn't go to tryouts because they joined Leg, very talented girls who contributed to B team success. Top A team player left for TG. Those are the facts.

With Wright coaching no doubt who the A team will be this summer.

You must be kidding. The 3 Wright girls that left went to chase their town varsity coach in hopes that if they suck up for the next few years they might see the field before they graduate. Those girls were NEVER. NEVER. going to A. If it was offered it was because CR was playing games to keep those checks coming. They'd be back on B in a season once the parents burnt their bridges with Leg. YJ parents are so stupid.

Is Thorn really A team they lost to Wright 2 years in a row. Can't wait to make it 3years in row

Thorn is a B coach with mostly A players. Wright is an A coach with mostly B players. YJ at it's finest!

It's actually dilusional B team parents at its finest.

It's amazing how you keep saying B team is delusional when we beat you 2 years in a row?? Ignorant [lacrosse]! Last time I watched your team looked rather weak, like you

[quote=Anonymous]What about the A player moved down who was one of the better A girls? 3 B team players moved up. One left for TG. Good luck getting any playing time to the others especially since they now carry 3 goalies, ridiculous!. Few of the best B team players didn't go to tryouts because they joined Leg, very talented girls who contributed to B team success. Top A team player left for TG. Those are the facts.

There are only 2 goalies listed on the roster

How did these two teams do against other teams?

Why don't people stick to information they actually know about. Everyone on here clearly doesnt know a thing. Funny, these girls seem to be getting a lot of attention if they weren't good players. Also, one of the players that left was on the A team not the B team. A top goalie in our age group also went over. They left to get better training period. In the end they will be better players for it which is why we are seriously considering making the move next year. The parents on this forum are absolutely ridiculous. Putting a bad taste in my mouth about this club. The bickering back and forth between the A team and B team is absurd. Isn't everyone in the same club. Both teams have great players and both teams have bottom players. Why doesn't everyone go get a life until season actually starts.

Its an anonymous thread...

[quote=Anonymous]Why don't people stick to information they actually know about. Everyone on here clearly doesnt know a thing. Funny, these girls seem to be getting a lot of attention if they weren't good players. Also, one of the players that left was on the A team not the B team. A top goalie in our age group also went over. They left to get better training period. In the end they will be better players for it which is why we are seriously considering making the move next year. The parents on this forum are absolutely ridiculous. Putting a bad taste in my mouth about this club. The bickering back and forth between the A team and B team is absurd. Isn't everyone in the same club. Both teams have great players and both teams have bottom players. Why doesn't everyone go get a life until season actually starts.

You want to chase RG to Leg also. Good riddance. A lot of jealous parents that their daughter aren't on YJ A.

Who iare these great 2023 A team player who left

Not well. YJA lost every single game at one MD tournament

Why don't you just say most BBP girls left to go smoochie smoochie their varsity coach, RG? Not like they left because Thorn was so amazing or Wright was horrible. I bet he's planning on pulling them all up to varsity next year and your daughter is missing out!

Or not.

Instead of staying with the sub par ESM friends and family plan?? Think that was a wize choice considering the record of YJA

This idea of town based travel team is a good thing for the school team development, but doesn't make for a strong travel club experience. School coaches win, players looking to rise to the top level lose. Recruiting does not happen through school ball. Even the strongest age group at this club (2020)shows weak at tournaments with better competition, and the rest of the age groups are miles behind that. I get the better training aspect, but the elite teams need to cherry pick the top kids from various towns to be elite. Sorry but no amount of training is going to change the ceiling of ten kids of varying potential from the same town, doesn't work that way. Many or even most towns are lucky to even have a kid or two on the top clubs elite team. And I am not saying there are no elite talent capable kids in BBP, but when kids don't surround themselves with others as good or better they will not rise to the occasion. But not everybody is looking for the same goals in travel lacrosse, there is a team and fit for every player, this might be well suited for many, I just would not be happy if this was happening in my town and had to feel the pressure to play for a weak program to please the Coach.

Problem is YJ is a weak travel team at this age level, so there is nothing gained playing there.

And whoever said it was a town based travel team?

It's worse. It's a B club selling the dream of an A team.

Let me guess, your daughters are the top players on this new travel team, right? Aren't you so happy they've reached the pinancle of achievement at the young age of 6th grade? Amazing! You always knew in your heart they were misplaced. Good for you sticking by your ^H^H^H^H their dream.

I believe that "town based" travel team tied the YJ team, with the majority of "A "players on roster this past fall at the SB tournament 😜

I believe that "town based" travel team tied the YJ team, with the majority of "A "players on roster this past fall at the SB tournament

Lets see how your town team does in a full field game vs our YJ team Im sure the results will be very different.

There were girls from other towns on that team. Town(s) based travel team more like it. You people are really funny.

Does a competitive 2023 travel team exist that has minimal friends and family nonsense and decent (non-daddy) coaching? Just curious.

Regardless, YJ could not beat them.

Please - the 5'7" non-BBP, non-YJ, 7th-grade girl carried your whole team. Unless she's your daughter, your kid gets no credit for anything that team did. She did all the work. At least give her the credit.

Bitter [lacrosse] doesn't like to lose? Needs to make excuses? Going to be a long season for you!

Yes Wright Yellow Jacket team...excellent coaching! No craziness! Just good lax with committed girls and coaches. BEST place to be! Other team is a joke and a half of crazies...bragging and looking down on the others .. its disgusting. They are not nice and the way they talk about players is terrible. Yes some girls were asked to go up and rather head to other leagues. its so sad ..

That's a funny lie! Typical YJ whiner!

That's a funny lie! Typical YJ whiner!

We'll show you what whiners we are at the March tournament you can't mention on this site or in April at the Stony Brook tournament.

Just one thing to keep in mind.... Just because someone says they are from YJ (or any club for that matter) in a post it does not mean they are. The above post screams of pot stirring!!

Does anybody know who Team Long Island or the Green Hornets are? Are they new clubs?

Team Long Island is a boys program not aware they a girls side? Maybe they started one recently.

Never heard of Green Hornets

Side tournament teams made up of girls from various clubs. Many times play in 7v7 tournaments or fall tournaments when their main club is not playing.

Team Long Island is mostly YJ girls.

YJ girls who left the program

Team Long island is a put together team of Mid County and BBP girls. There are a few other girls from other towns added to the team.

Team Long Island and the Rage consist of mainly YJ players they were both at the Stony Brook tournament last spring.

All the YJ players that played on team LI left for other programs. They played YJ last fall at SB and tied.

None of you have this correct. Stop being anonymous !!! I coach BBP & Tea, LI. There were NO 5'7" 7th graders on the team at Stony Brook. ALL 6th graders from a handful of towns as a make shift travel team. Many of the girls are Yellow Jackets and therefore we played a diluted YJ team. All got soaking wet and all had fun. What is this crap actually about. Oh, also...my name is Craig Clare !!!!!

Also, the girls that "carried" that team were Kate Timarky, Katie Clare, Mia Juvelier, Maggie Kennedy, Maddison Weybrecht, Haydin Eisfeld, Felicia Giglio, Olivia Annunziata, Juliana Spezial, Kaitlyn Ippolito, Liz Hanham, and a few others. In other words...the TEAM "carried" the team. STOP already. Craig Clare

5 Girls from Team LI left YJ but 12 from Team LI STILL play for YJ. No "Alternative facts" here !!
Craig Clare

Why are names being posted?? Not sure about that list???

NOT YJ girls who left the program. A few who left YJ and most who stayed with YJ. As I coach those who did leave, we respect every family's decision based upon what they each think is best for their daughter. Some might feel having the BBP Varsity coach gives their daughter and the program an advantage, some might not have been happy with how they felt their daughter was used or placed and others just might not have wanted to travel the NJ Turnpike as much. Whatever the reasons are...respect them. My daughter, Katie Clare and our family are extremely happy with YJ as look forward to our season. Another BBP girl stayed with YJ -A team as well. Let's ALL play lacrosse (wherever), have FUN, get better and outside the field, have a life !!! CRAIG Clare (Coach BBP 2023 & Team LI)

[quote=Anonymous]None of you have this correct. Stop being anonymous !!! I coach BBP & Tea, LI. There were NO 5'7" 7th graders on the team at Stony Brook. ALL 6th graders from a handful of towns as a make shift travel team. Many of the girls are Yellow Jackets and therefore we played a diluted YJ team. All got soaking wet and all had fun. What is this crap actually about. Oh, also...my name is Craig Clare !!!!!

Very diluted YJ team all the top players were playing for team li

Did you get the parents OK to put their daughters names on the web? Are you dumb? Or worse?

See your daughter carried the team, HAhaha

Coach is claiming his daughter carried the team? I'm claiming BS

Wow....you are one clever sleuth. I am neither dumb nor worse....Mr. or Mrs. Ananymous! I know these parents and proudly have bragged about them playing as a team! Considering the ripping of everyone that goes on here, compliments are a positive thing. I guess I will be the big person here and axknowlede that in the fiture I should consider your point. Thanks for helping me out. Craig Clare BBP

The Team carried the Team. This response does not make sense to me ???

Hi Craig!

First of all names of young girls should not be posted here, second Coach putting his own daughters name as a difference maker is absurd! Give me a break!

Really dumb or not, I named every girl I could remember as a difference maker so for you to infer or imply that i am naming my daughter as The differnce maker is made up crap for what was posted as a TEAM compliment when someone said we were carried by a 7th grader. Innever once said My daughter. You have made that up. Now your turn to put Your name. Craig Clare

The parents were the ones posting about the 5'7" girl cause she didnt pass their kids the ball on her way to GOAL!

So, TLI, made up of YJ b and Leg girls tied the YJ team, made up mostly YJ a players. Interesting. Will TLI be playing in the March tournament?

So, once again....misleading and inaccurate response. If one actauuly read the names (by the way...the parents have thanked me for complimenting their daughters and have nonproblem with my post) one would actually see that TLI had YJ a, YJ b and Leg girls playing together. "Getting soaking eet and having fun". That was my original post!!! To then mislead that YJ could only tie when again, they were " diluted" of the names of the players mentioned in ridiculous. "All got soaked and all had fun". The Team carried the Team. All positive comments for both teams that played.
Where does your anymosity begin and end? What is the point? You have been called to " come out" from be an anonymous negative poster. Come on out! Thought so !

Will the 5'7" girl be playing? Was she named yet?

Pretty sure he was listing his daughter as one of the many girls on the team that played a part in the teams success. Only a troll trying to stir the pot would make a comment like that.

Craig thank you for setting the record straight.

[quote=Anonymous]So, TLI, made up of YJ b and Leg girls tied the YJ team, made up mostly YJ a players. Interesting. Will TLI be playing in the March tournament?

Of course these girls should be playing together as much as possible.

[quote=Anonymous]So, once again....misleading and inaccurate response. If one actauuly read the names (by the way...the parents have thanked me for complimenting their daughters and have nonproblem with my post) one would actually see that TLI had YJ a, YJ b and Leg girls playing together. "Getting soaking eet and having fun". That was my original post!!! To then mislead that YJ could only tie when again, they were " diluted" of the names of the players mentioned in ridiculous. "All got soaked and all had fun". The Team carried the Team. All positive comments for both teams that played.
Where does your anymosity begin and end? What is the point? You have been called to " come out" from be an anonymous negative poster. Come on out! Thought so !

Animosity is based on being jealous that their daughters were not asked to play with TLI. End of story.

Thanks Craig for the refreshing post! Whoever this person is should be kicked off this site. Constantly putting a negative spin on every post on here kkand clearly just making s**t up!

And there is the problem.... whenever you cherry pick kids, your going to leave people out and [lacrosse] people off. And your 'my daughter was chosen and you are jealous' attitude will only make it worse.

Posting the names of girls because you remember them is just moronic. I don't care about the game or Craig Cartoons naming his own daughter, that's his own ignorance. But to name someone else It's just too stupid for words. And to keep proudly posting your own name to prove something means nothing. I will not post my name and I will certainly not post my kids name and certainly not the name of someone not involved in these ignorant debates.

Because I won't doesn't invalidate my opinion. It's clear Craig is just too stupid for words.

And I am referring to the idiot arguing with Craig

No one who's names were listed is upset. Everyone is fed up with your negative spin on every post!

I guess the "few others" weren't all that important since you can't remember their names or chose not to list them. Sorry "few others" you weren't as important as the "named" kids. Always a bad idea to name kids on here.

The rules of this forum prohibit posting the names of minors. It wasn't caught by the moderators , but that does not make it ok. And any parent that thinks it's fine that their daughter was mentioned by name is more of an idiot than the person who posts names.

The names shouldn't have been posted, however the point of the post was to say that the team plays like a "team". The point was to say that all of the players carry the team. Many of these players have been continuously been talked about on this site and I have to say that enough is enough. The point was to defend these girls that can't seem to get off being the topic of conversation. Frankly, all of the info stated was positive information, no bashing, and it was actually factual information unlike everything else posted on here. So am I mad, no. I'm not angry with someone who thinks the world of these kids and who couldn't handle reading the lies that are posted on here.

Exactly what "lies" have been posted? You sound like a real drama queen!

The Forum Board rules as directly copied from the home page:

"Named Individuals : Identifying youth players in a negative or attacking manner by name will not be permitted. Be mindful that such posts will be removed and/or editted by the BOTC Moderators. Identification of adults in posts should be accompanied with substantiated facts and details."

It is obvious that Coach Clare did nothing but Praise these girls for playing as a Team and never "identified youth players in a negative or attacking manner by name". He obviously cares about his players and was nothing but positive for them and the YJ team they played that day. On the other hand, this provocateur had refered to him as Craig Cartoons, moron, too stupid for words and idiot. One coach being pirely positive and one person stirring a pot for. O reason.
The lies I read in here are: 1., The rules of the website, 2. A 7th grader "carried that team" 3. Saying the coach named his daighter as carrying the team when he actauuly named 12 players, 4. That the team was. yJ b and Leg team that tied an YJ a team and 5. That this coach is too stupid for words.

That previous parent who rightfully praised coach is not a drama queen as much as this other person is [lacrosse] bent on being the only who knows everything !

Oh boy, this is going to be fun season! Good luck to ALL the girls!

Try saying something nice about your own kid on this site using her/his name, it will be deleted by a moderator. You can never sy something like " I just watched Sally Smith play, boy is she a fantastic player." again it will be deleted. I guess this coach is amune to the moderators scrutiny. But I'm sure that I will now be banned or scorned by them. As one of them once told me in an e mail this is there board and they will make up the rules or apply them as they want

A coach naming his own daughter, along with a few other "Difference makers", then saying the whole team carried the team, but can't remember the names of the other players would be a problem for me. He sure did remember to name his own daughter. This is why you don't post names.
1. Its sets the kids up for scrutiny. Since this is an anonymous forum that is easy to do and is inevitable.
2. It may be hurtful to others who may have been left out off the "list". These girls are only 11, and much will change.

I've seen this happen before on here and it always ends the same way....badly.
Although I believe the coach had good intentions, it backfired, better off leaving it alone, and realize that everything that is said on here must be taken with a grain of salt.

Says you, anonymous poster!

Craig Cartoon is a dope. Period.

I am Team LI and I approve this message.

I'll take being on Craig's team any day. They are really good, they have fun, they play as a team, they are constantly supported and congratulated by their coach and as already said...they have fun. With so many girls having played with this group in different tournaments at different times I would expect that when your daighter is one of the girls that will play with them at some time, you will find it a breath of fresh air.
Let's all have fun and watch our daughters play together, against each other, with each other again in a different group stting and keep letting them grow.
Shed the meanness, stop the name calling and chill. Girls are 11.

Exactly, they are 11, don't name them.....

Does a competitive 2023 travel team exist that has minimal friends and family nonsense and decent (non-daddy) coaching? Just curious.

Leg A cy has the best coach for 2023s and is not political. We are very happy. And...now wait for all of the negative comments! That's why we are where we are.

Is that why all the YJ / team LI girls left to join? Looks like YJ is unraveling.

Say what you want about YJ, just think the fun the BBP threads will be to read for the next 6 years when their girls are in MS/HS and they turn their negative threads on each other about playing tine, positions, and varsity/JV placement.

It's going to be great! Parents paying club fees for years thinking it guarantees their daughter a spot on varsity. Some stud kid is just going to roll in and crush it. The coach is caught wondering if all the Leg parents are going to grab him in an alligator like death roll as they all tear off chunks of his flesh. Man, I would pay to be a fly on that wall.

[quote=Anonymous]Leg A cy has the best coach for 2023s and is not political. We are very happy. And...now wait for all of the negative comments! That's why we are where we are.

Please don't even get me started with RG

NO CARES WHAT A NARP LIKE YOU HAS TO SAY!

Lets wait and see how the best 2023 coach does this summer.

NARPS..none cares about you

It takes more than a few months to build a team

1st - Top Gun
2nd - Igloo
3rd - Yellow Jackets
4th - Jesters
5th - 91 Kiera Strong
6th - Liberty

LI Girls 2023 team Rankings (Until it's proven otherwise)

TG Black
YJ B
YJ A
Igloo
Leg

Everyone else

In two years it will be YJA and everyone else just like it has been for ever. Half the current YJA team will be gone and replaced with girls from these other clubs.

[quote=Anonymous]1st - Top Gun
2nd - Igloo
3rd - Yellow Jackets
4th - Jesters
5th - 91 Kiera Strong
6th - Liberty

Yellow Jackets have beat Igloo more than once. How can they be ranked lower?

last time they played, Igloo lost by a goal in final seconds, so they could easily move up the rankings this year after they get the win. For now YJ is above them.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1st - Top Gun
2nd - Igloo
3rd - Yellow Jackets
4th - Jesters
5th - 91 Kiera Strong
6th - Liberty

Yellow Jackets have beat Igloo more than once. How can they be ranked lower?



last time they played, Igloo lost by a goal in final seconds, so they could easily move up the rankings this year after they get the win. For now YJ is above them.

Does anybody know what tournaments Igloo will be in this summer? YJ and Igloo may not face each other

yes there is an 7th grade 5'7 girl coming from fl$

To what team?

YJ would be better off staying back on LI and playing TG, Igloo, Leg, Liberty, etc. Those would be much better games to watch and learn from. Whats the point of driving to MD to get your [lacrosse] kicked, losing all the games you play? That's not fun, and doesn't make the team better like CR suggests, otherwise they would be a the top of the ranking. It would save the families a lot of time and money. I think CR believes the competition on LI isn't that good, but this is clearly not the case for the 2023s

CR doesn't make any money off the LI tournaments. Don't be naive. It has nothing to do with competition, only money.

YJ would be better off staying back on LI and playing TG, Igloo, Leg, Liberty, etc. Those would be much better games to watch and learn from. Whats the point of driving to MD to get your [lacrosse] kicked, losing all the games you play? That's not fun, and doesn't make the team better like CR suggests, otherwise they would be a the top of the ranking. It would save the families a lot of time and money. I think CR believes the competition on LI isn't that good, but this is clearly not the case for the 2023s

YJ will be better this summer and in order to get to the next level we have to compete with the MD teams to see where we measure up.

How will they will be better when they lost the best players and gained nothing? They will be destroyed again by MD, Heros, etc. Maybe if they got an actual coach, things could look up.

I do not have a daughter on this team, but have watched the team play many times. While I do see some talented kids on the team, there is a completely broken mentality on this team. There is so little transition, ball movement, cutting and feeding, etc.... It seems the entire game plan is isolation and go to goal. I would have to say the coaches need to drastically change the playing style of these girls because the team will only be less competitive playing this style as they get older, and they can't afford to be any less competitive than they are now. It is great a kid can go to goal and score some goals in a game, but a team may actually be better off without that 'take it to goal with my head down' mentality. Like I said they have the talent, the coach needs to change the culture, good luck to them!

You only get better by playing the best. Only a loser would suggest not traveling to play MD to play their teams. I hope your daughter is not on the team and you are not passing on that losing attitude to your daughter.

If the traveling and cost is too much for you there are plenty of clubs on LI you and your daughter can join. Win or loss I look forward to traveling to MD this summer and playing MD's best.

The only looser is you. Both figuratively and literally. You think the team gets better going to MD and getting blown out? meanwhile they can't even beat / or barely beat other LI teams? You are delusional and probably the coach. Wake up and realize what's going on. The team is not up to par with MD and losing every game is not helping, especially when coach plays the "favorites" who are really just the [lacrosse] kissers who can't perform when needed.

The only looser is you. Both figuratively and literally. You think the team gets better going to MD and getting blown out? meanwhile they can't even beat / or barely beat other LI teams? You are delusional and probably the coach. Wake up and realize what's going on. The team is not up to par with MD and losing every game is not helping, especially when coach plays the "favorites" who are really just the [lacrosse] kissers who can't perform when needed.

You don't get better by losing to MD teams but you won't get better not challenging the girls either. The girls need to get motivated to work harder so they don't get blown out by any team. Playing soft teams won't help. The team has talent and with hard work will improve those girls that don't want to work will weed themselves out.

I agree with that, and the other LI teams are not soft, otherwise YJs would be blowing them out, or at the least be beating them by more that a goal or two.

We played the other LI teams last year and your right TG had a couple of girls that were great, Igloo had good players also but I have faith that YJ have more depth than those teams and will have an excellent season. Stay positive.

YJA has been training hard, clearly has the top talent and is going to open a can of whoop @ss this summer. The haters are always going to hate. Sorry but would rather be on the "lowly" YJA team then a "stud" on some startup.

You could always play up for better competition instead of leaving LI to take a shlacking. YJ can practice "hard" all they want. Bottom line, they don't have the talent or the coaches.

How do you "clearly" have the best talent when you lost to your B team two years in a row and the best girls left that team became they didn't want to play for your coach? Should make you scratch you head, ehh? No hate, just facts.

It would be great to have a club league on Long Island like they have in Maryland unfortunately there are to many personalities at the top of these clubs for it to ever happen.

Some of the 2024 teams are playing against each other indoors. No reason why the 2023's cant.

Interesting- which 2024 teams are playing each other?

An outdoor league would be much more useful. You can only get so much out of indoor.

Leg 24, YJ 24 A/B YJ 25 A/B

The "Best" girls did not leave YJ-A. Two to Four of the BEST 2023 players are still in that team. A BBP girl in the top 10 left and an attacker. Where someone keeps saying "The Best" players left is from Mars !!!

A team will be fine, more talent left the B team and that team is going to be in for a rough summer. Nobody reading these post actually believes the "best" A team girls left except for the parent posting this nonsense.

BEST 2-4 girls still on the "A" team but they lost, twice to the B team......doesn't add up.

[quote=Anonymous]The "Best" girls did not leave YJ-A. Two to Four of the BEST 2023 players are still in that team. A BBP girl in the top 10 left and an attacker. Where someone keeps saying "The Best" players left is from Mars !!

Or you may evaluate talent as well as the YJ directors that's why the A team lost two years in a row to the B team. That's embarrassing to the organization.

http://www.backofthecage.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6#Post6
There is a dedicated thread to take this mindless YJ babble. Use it. Nobody cares about this crap except you losers.

Sorry, to be considered one of the best, you need to prove that in games, those girls unfortunately were not able to consistently do that. The best girls are the ones who win games for their team. Don't recall many of the "A" team girls who stepped up when the team needed them to, as pointed out A team lost to B team. They were also blown out time after time in MD. Where were those "best" girls then? Now moving forward, many of the girls who produced for their YJ teams ,mostly B players and one A have left. So the YJ A vs B battle is not the same anymore as the teams have changed. We all need to focus on our new teams and we will see how the pecking order pans out. But for the poster who claims the best girls are on the A team sounds like a mommy with Rose colored glasses on! ( pun intended)

2023 is a very down year for LI. Couple that with the worst group of parents "ever for any age group" shooting their mouths off, it is sad to watch. Yes there are some talented players, I think the parents and mindset of this age group ruins it for all. Many kids will make it to top colleges and will be fine, but you parents are ruining the fun experience travel lax should be, RELAX.

I guess time will tell how "down" this age group is. As far as parents, it is aways only a few that can ruin it for everyone. The negativity, at least on BOC recently, seems to be coming from the cut, moved on, dropped, and jilted. As far as ruining the fun experience, I hope most of the girls are immune to the constant negativity on this thread. With the great weather today, my kids were itching for the season to start.

Or maybe from parents who are sick of the elite attitude coming from a team that is not.

as a coach you shouldn't be on here. Really. and you shouldn't name players. its unethical even positive spins. a good coach would never engage on a site like this, name players and talk about their skills. I understand you are trying to stop the negativity but you should recheck yourself. This is way uncool.

yellow jackets A she will certainly help the team she will be their go to goal girl for sure

actually there are 2 coming from fl$ 2021 team to play yellow jackets 2023

So will the team have 26 girls now? Some new pine riders? You are saying YJ is joining the holdback movement? Wouldn't surprise me!

no they are already on the team. sounds like yes the hold back movement unless they played up for fl$

That's messed up Is that even allowed?

Were they at tryouts? Because there were no new girls standing out there, so good luck with that!

So will the team have 26 girls now? Some new pine riders? You are saying YJ is joining the holdback movement? Wouldn't surprise me!

"Only" 25 girls on the A team 27 on the B team

They probably didn't have to try out. They prob have some sort of connection to RG.

[quote=Anonymous]actually there are 2 coming from fl$ 2021 team to play yellow jackets 2023

The girls red shirted for 2 years they still have 2023 eligibility.

The team will still suck

don't get it...they get to play for both teams? they are still on both rosters or are they just fillers like fake players? seems a bit shady ... what is the purpose?

what red shirt they played last year for fl$

YJ not looking to good today?

Give it a rest. Anyone can have a bad day at the office. No one ever said they are infallible. And no, my daughter does not play on their team.

What happened?

Per a prior post.... 'YJA has been training hard, clearly has the top talent and is going to open a can of whoop @ss this summer.'

Sounds like with all the training and top talent, there is no bad day at the office

losing two games to a pick up team is not a good sign for YJ blue

Ah thank you... for the pot stirring.

Having 6 girls as a "pick up" YJ group does not represent the "tram" just as the "pick up team" Green Hornets of TG players does not represent the whole TG team. To make any judgments at all about either TEAM from a 4 v 4 with a few girls on either side is utterly absurd.

Did the 2 coming from FL$ 2021 team to play yellow jackets 2023 play in this "pick up" game?

You could always play up for better competition instead of leaving LI to take a shlacking. YJ can practice "hard" all they want. Bottom line, they don't have the talent or the coaches.

What's even funnier look at the applied teams for the National Tournament in July. Four teams out of eight are from Long Island. Traveling 8 hours to Virginia to play Long Island teams is absurd.

Oh, must be because the friends and family plan bench girls were playing! Team of is not deep with talent and bottom half are b to c team level players. Let's see what happens when the good players show up!

Oh, must be because the friends and family plan bench girls were playing! Team of is not deep with talent and bottom half are b to c team level players. Let's see what happens when the good players show up!

Looks like a divided team studs and f&f. Hopefully Thorn gets the most out of this team or it's going to be a long season

As a matter of fact. 2 kids did decline

[quote=Anonymous]As a matter of fact. 2 kids did decline

2 kids declined what?

They made the A team and left for other clubs. Additionally another member asked to be put back on B. And we all know why.

L-o-s-e-r-s !!!!! Go to sleep and wake up with a life.

Why so angry about this team? I also thought that in order to decline something an actual offer had to be made? A few girls left before tryouts but I don't recall anyone on the roster walking away?

I think two did. We're on roster then disappeared, maybe that made room for the Fl$ girls.

You think....

What does FL$ or FI$ stand for. Don't know of that organization.

You're one of the lucky ones!!

Yes. There were2

defintely 2 did

They left because the coaches suck and play daddy ball and lose every game to good teams

they were smart too much drama and favoritism with that group, people declaring their kids the best on nonsense websites.... nothing good can come of that ...

I agree.

YJ blue has some talented players but that team cant match up to igloo or tg black. it will be a fun summer watching these teams.

[quote=Anonymous]YJ blue has some talented players but that team cant match up to igloo or tg black. it will be a fun summer watching these teams.

We'll see at the National Championship this summer all 3 teams will be there

Yj blue has 3 studs and that's it. They also have a daddy coaches daughter who plays over them. They have 2 underwhelming b players that were brought up this year. Everybody else is an average player. The coaches will be shortening the bench all summer to compete. Parents and kids will be upset and complaining about traveling to Maryland and Virginia to get minimal to no playing time. But the yellow pissed stains will still be signing checks to cr and brag about their kids playing on yj blue. Bahhhhhhhh...

CR is smart she'll bring in a new coach that will draw talent from other clubs.

When you say "they" have....it must be that you are not part of them. How is it determined that the 2 players brought up from B are "underwhelming"? I certainly would not be able to know who is good, bad or indifferent from a different organizations B team. How is this tracked?

cr should have done it already. if they havent done it yet I doubt they will. it really doesnt matter...so many people are on to it ..in the long run it won't matter. It will just hurt those girls on that team. There is a reason why girls walked away from placement on that team ...the coaches...

I would have to agree with this. They are not at all deep, and no one exciting has been added for this year. It will be the same, maybe worse this year. Don't believe the rumors of a new coach, it will be the studs getting frustrated playing with friends and family once again, plus the bench riders on board to fund the team and supply snacks for the tailgate.

Which goalie will start? This should be interesting!

Did you sleep better calling 11 yr old girls underwhelming? I have no connection to this age group but for a team that is supposedly so horrible why is it the only team people are talking about?

Where are all the 11yr old studs if not here?

So Mr underwhelming, why dont you share your daughters club and her number so we can evaluate her at the next practice, seems fair?

Which goalie will start? This should be interesting!

Goalie is the least of our problems.

The coach knows those 2 "underwhelming players" aren't studs. I hope they prove everyone wrong and light up the field this summer!
You're talking about kids dreams here, give them the chance to succeed.

So what does everyone think of the brine tryouts coming up? Do you think it will be a fair tryout with fresh eyes? I heard that alot of girls picked have older siblings that have been or are in D1 schools..

[quote=Anonymous]So what does everyone think of the brine tryouts coming up? Do you think it will be a fair tryout with fresh eyes? I heard that alot of girls picked have older siblings that have been or are in D1 schools..

Big Money Grab

You always have the option to leave and go somewhere else.
Why would you expect things to be different? Want to see things change, and this goes for all clubs, stop paying!

Not likely.

The coach knows those 2 "underwhelming players" aren't studs. I hope they prove everyone wrong and light up the field this summer!
You're talking about kids dreams here, give them the chance to succeed.


Kids dreams or parents

Brine is a joke, Last year in 2020-21 division, it was mostly girls from the evaluator's schools. One 2021 made the team who was like a 2nd or 3rd team player from Top Guns. But her MS teacher/HS coach was the person running the tryout.

Who is Brine?

[quote=Anonymous]Who is Brine?

Exactly

2 2023 YJ B team girls are moving to A. It's official. Poor kids.

Parents should buy them a cushion, bench gets hard after a while

I guess your daughter isn't one of them?

[quote=Anonymous]2 2023 YJ B team girls are moving to A. It's official. Poor kids.

That's awesome 27 girls will result in more sideline parents fueding and less playing time. Where do I send my check?

Moving B girls up? Be careful what you wish for. You're trading a team where you would probably be a starter and have a great coach who will develop you for a seat on the bench. Heard one of the girls was moved down and then back up, what an insult! Terrible! "We only want you because we didn't get the girls we really wanted, and we'll send you back down in a heartbeat when someone better comes along, sucker "

Cry baby. Wa wa wa. You little be'atch.

[quote=Anonymous]Moving B girls up? Be careful what you wish for. You're trading a team where you would probably be a starter and have a great coach who will develop you for a seat on the bench. Heard one of the girls was moved down and then back up, what an insult! Terrible! "We only want you because we didn't get the girls we really wanted, and we'll send you back down in a heartbeat when someone better comes along, sucker "

News Flash YJ isn't the only lax club if you don't like it don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Parents should buy them a cushion, bench gets hard after a while

These girls are not moving up to sit on the bench.

Ok mom, going to be a long summer for you. Do you suddenly think your daughter magically improved enough to get playing time when she couldn't even make the team a couple months ago? Comical. You'll be complaining like the rest soon enough!

Ok mom, going to be a long summer for you. Do you suddenly think your daughter magically improved enough to get playing time when she couldn't even make the team a couple months ago? Comical. You'll be complaining like the rest soon enough!

Please stop with your jealous attitude.

Jealous of what exactly? Just feel bad for you thinking that your daughter is something she's not.

Make the team? Oh you must mean be one of the ESM kiss asses (parents)? Kiss the coach or the Dean, your choice. Politics at its best!

You people are hilarious . Don't pretend that if your kid was asked to move up to the top team you would not . You can't have it both ways if these kids were moved up because of politics then they will play for the same reason . If they were moved up because they deserve it then they will play because they deserve it . Is what it is now move on or move clubs but stop acting like cowardly losers posting about it .

When are these two new mysterious players going to show up to make the roster 27????

They may "move up" but won't play. There are a handful of girls that play significant minutes, this will not change, this is because the team is not deep in talent to begin with, and adding b players is not what the team needs. However, someone needs to provide snacks for the tailgates!

We'll said COACH

I was told "when April practices begin".

The A team has been practicing every Sunday so why would they make them wait?

Because all of this is BOC BS.... there are no new girls coming.

The A team has been practicing every Sunday so why would they make them wait?

They'll be playing in the March tournament

omg you people are nuts! Clearly people are going to get into fist fights on the sidelines. Its so funny!! Is there anything positive to say about these poor 11/12 year old girls? There is no new coach, no players moving up or down. Where do you get your information from? Looks like people just trying to stir the pot for fun. The players are all about the same on a and b except for a few. Give me a break. There is no superhuman child on either of these teams ...settle down! Its a joke! Let the girls play and have fun. A or B! Who the heck cares!

You should ask the coaches and CR that question. Why are you so concerned anyway.

Yes they are coming. I heard that also from one of the parents who's kid is being brought up

One of the new girls is coming from TG

One of the new girls is coming from TG

In program promotions. I'm sure it'll be the TG girls in the near future.

This is getting stupid. Post agin when they show up.

#notmyAteam

No they are both from the B. Verified

Heard they took a TG girl demoted to B team and was mad. Nice recruiting jobYJ!

Great communication between the club and the paying parents.... why not carry 30 girls. Starting to doubt this program, they have strong reputation but lots of new choices over the last 5 years.

Two B girls moving up with a new a TG girl.

2 of them

[quote=Anonymous]Two B girls moving up with a new a TG girl.

Adding 3 girls will put the roster at 28 and push some parents over the edge.

I think they are trying to get a few more players and will then break up into (2) true A teams and (1) B team

They split them at tryouts. All the good B players left Wright's team and they are now a true B team.

I heard their agents have been contacted and a deal is close to bring them back.

They were the real A team with your daughter on it, right? Now that she's gone the whole team will go to crap. Like your dreams of being a "true" A team on Leg-A-C.

YJ has never had a true A team in this age group. It's been a mess for years. Although there are 3-4 very good players, the team has been polluted by friends and family. CR should have stepped in 2 years ago. Now better girls are leaving the program and mid level b players are being brought up. The best girls will be more frustrated than ever while the bottom tier (majority) will sit bench. Recipe for disaster. They girls who can play will not be happy when the others can't catch and throw!! Meanwhile mommies will be crying pass the ball despite when they do their daughters turn it over.

The Good girls left wright? Someone is delusional and We know who you are. Get a grip.

[quote=Anonymous]The Good girls left wright? Someone is delusional and We know who you are. Get a grip.

Delusional? The girls that left weren't the best on Wrights team? Lets see how the summer unfolds I'm sure Wright's team will struggle and Thorn's team will regret not bringing these girls up before they left.

Don't be mad that your daughter didn't move up, tell her to work harder! Or kiss up to CR a little better

No one will even know you're gone. Go over to the varsity thread and find out why girls are quitting RG's varsity team.

Girls are quitting because they're not helping the program and don't want sit the bench, won't be missed. The same reason more girls will be leaving YJ after this summer, Not enough talent left to be competitive anymore. Those MD tournaments will be a disaster. Better ask to play in the C division

What tournys and at what level of play will these other clubs be attending this summer?

Sounds like someone is a bit nervous they plucked their kid off yj. you are thinking you made a big mistake...especially since the kid will never make it again. so sorry. stop whining ... go to your new league and play... you made your daughters choice ..we see right through your jealous tirades...gross Wrights team will be fine and so will Thorns..

Your daughter will always be a b teamer like you, deal with it. YJ at the 2023 age group is a disaster! Keep paying for the brand and the 26 girl roster. We'll hear the crying in a couple months when you can't hang with the big girls!

Sounds like someone is a bit nervous they plucked their kid off yj. you are thinking you made a big mistake...especially since the kid will never make it again. so sorry. stop whining ... go to your new league and play... you made your daughters choice ..we see right through your jealous tirades...gross Wrights team will be fine and so will Thorns..

We'll see how fine you'll be when you visit MD for the first time in June.

Isn't there a separate YJ thread, why not take the drama there.
Let's talk lax. Does anyone think with all these new "club" teams/programs forming this may result in the talent on Long Island becoming diluted. Instead of having a couple of top clubs, where all the talent ultimately go, you end up with weaker teams? Thoughts?

Or the better girls who have gone to different teams can be leaders on their new teams, making their teammates better in the process. It will be fun watching competitive games right here on LI.

I think this is an anomaly hitting the 2023 age group alone. 2022 has a strong YJ team and so does 2024 and 2025. In 2023 the talent is spread across multiple clubs but these same clubs are much weaker in the other grad years. Leg-a-C has a strong 2024 team that competes with YJ but the other 2024 teams are weak. Case in point, most LI 2024 teams except Leg and YJ have been beaten by the 2025 YJ team. How that will play out in the long run only time will tell. In summary, 2022 strongly concentrated in YJ, 2023 spread out between TG, YJ and Igloo (and maybe Leg but they have to prove themselves), 2024 YJ and Leg, 2025 is just YJ.

The dilution anomaly in 2023, in my opinion, is mostly caused by coaching and politics. A good coach creates a winning team and talent gravitates to it. Those teams get stronger and stronger every year as word gets out. YJ has a leg up on this because of branding so they start out with a good number of girls to pick from but if you have a crappy, disinterested coach the branding only goes so far. In year one, if Thorn had actually coached, the YJ team probably could have established itself as the leader and talent would have concentrated there like in prior years and the grad years after. That wasn't the case so the talent has gone to other clubs and diluted the age group.

This is a shame because once you get down to the 410 the girls are older and bigger, the officials have it in for the "dirty NY lacrosse" and you really need a team with great skills and teamwork to overcome the size/age difference and officiating bias. Hopefully sometime soon one of the LI teams will be able to concentrate enough talent to head down to MD and give them a good spanking. TG is looking like the leading contender from LI, maybe some YJ people will get off the Cool-Aide and take the plunge for the good of Long Island lacrosse.

Finally...A truthful, unbiased, and intelligent post. Very refreshing on this page!

You are correct about the talent being spread across multiple clubs. But you are so off base about playing older girls in MD. No girls play down in MD, boys playing down in MD is a different story.

If parents would concentrate more on the coaching and the strength of the teams as a whole, instead of the individuality or "my kid has to be the star on the team" mentality, then talented teams could be created. These clubs are a business, making money off YOU, let's not forget that. These new clubs are forming because of unsatisfied parents who think their kid is not getting enough playing time/ exposure, etc. You can always find good trainers for extra help with stick work etc. But, solid clubs who are able to develop your kids talent, as well as, the team as a whole should be more of the focus. A talented athletic kid only gets better playing with other talented kids, striving to be better. But, unfortunately, in this age group this is not the focus. I have a feeling there will be a lot of jumping ship next year as well. The talent will become more diluted. And, the teams in this age group will not gel or develop as a contending team because of this. Sad.

hahahahahahah. Let's go to Leg where there are no tryouts. Didn't see anyone trying out for Igloo or TG with the exception of 1 from A 1from B

Maybe jumping ship on your team (yj) that seems to be the only team with unhappy kids and parents.

This has only ever happened once before in LI lax where YJ did not have the top team for and age group. When the 2020s first formed the TG team was better. Fast forward, not anymore, not even close. The big diffence then was the two 2020 teams were very good and could and did beat top Maryland teams. These 2023 teams are a completely different story. Right now, no LI team at 2023 is competitive. All the LI clubs seem so excited because they have a team that is finally near competitive with YJ top team. But it is not because they have a competitive team, it is because the YJs do not have a competitive team.

This is one wacky age group! But mark my word in 2 years there will be YJA and everyone else! All these other teams will be competing at Hofstra for a tee shirt. The best of the best who are serious about playing at the next level will find their way to YJ one way or another.

Unlikely! The funny thing is that people think being on these mediocre YJ teams are going to get them recruited! Ha

I'm not saying the MD girls play down. Their school year is different thus some are older and it does make a difference. Whether there are some holdbacks or not would be impossible for me to know. I do know they are bigger. Maybe it's something in the water ;-)

Maybe the 2023 top YJ team is mediocre, but they will benefit from the club name and will get recruited before all other teams, like all the other top YJ teams. Look at the prime classes being recruited right now, 2020 and 2021. They have more than double the recruits of all the other LI clubs combine. Over the years and every year they are the most highly recruited club in the nation, fact. If you've been in the sport for any length of time you know this, always been that way. So even if the 2023 team is only as good as the other clubs in LI, they still are at a huge advantage over the other clubs. I like the idea of chasing rainbows at other clubs, know many people who have followed that path. Has worked out for some, but most have come to recognize it is a much hard path to recruitment. Good luck whatever path you choose.

Coaches recruit on talent. Good luck with your philosophy. It's not a huge advantage when you are losing every game. The team has a been the laughing stock of the YJ organization and getting worse. Hiding on a bad team is not a good thing, and certainly not a path to recuitment!

I don't tend to play...ha..you on the other hand are living a little to vicariously through your child

Except all the other options on LI are no better.

I agree.

Regardless of where your daughter plays YJ, TG or any other travel club and your daughter wants to play college lax you will be doing the leg work by attending their camps and clinics. Don't be fooled thinking just because your daughter wears a certain piney college coaches will be flocking to your daughter? Have your daughter play where she develops best.

Thank you! The best thing said in a while.

Thank you! Finally! Good luck to all!

Thanks RG. Where do I sign her up or do I have to move to some dump of a house on the south shore first?

Thanks RG. Where do I sign her up or do I have to move to some dump of a house on the south shore first?

No you can continue to live in your trailer park.

As usual, a [lacrosse] response to a positive post.

As a parent of an older girl, much of your daughter's progress is dictated by what she does in training outside the club, season and summer season. Be an advocate and well informed parent. Find clinics and training opportunities for her. Get her involved in speed training and strength training (If old enough). If you with club A don't be afraid of training with girls from club b in the off season. Get together in groups and get the stick in their hands. Try to help the entire team better. Better the talent around your daughter the faster she will progress. Be proactive. Use these boards for more than just bitching and complaining.

Where is there speed and agility training opportunities. That is something my daughter could benefit from! Any suggestions? Thanks!

I think that what team you are on does play a roll in recruiting at team events. It doesn't make a difference at individual prospect.
1. When a coach sees you at team event and your on a very good team those around you make you look better. If on a weak team but a great player there is only so much you can do without over extending yourself ie. Physically and mentally.

2. When you are at an individual prospect day your play is your play and you can not hide or be hidden.

One other factor is your coaches ability to pick up the phone and call college coaches on your behalf. If there are 2 players that are close in talent and a club coach who has a reputation for producing great players calls a college coach and promotes their players odds are college coaches listen to that club coach.

None of that matters if you're sitting on the bench, which is what many girls on Thorn's team do. Oh, and they are not a very good team in their age group, in case you haven't noticed.

None of that matters if you're sitting on the bench, which is what many girls on Thorn's team do. Oh, and they are not a very good team in their age group, in case you haven't noticed.

If you don't want your daughter on the bench have her work harder or move to the right town.

Will we be seeing"Team LI" the go to goal girl drive herself to the SB play day this weekend to smash through 3 defenders?

Stupid post coming from an adult trying to stir the pot about a 6th grade girl. Loser!

What a loser! Must of been picked on as a child.

Solid post!

Looking at the Lax for the Cure schedule it looks like Wright's team is in a tougher bracket than Thorn's team.

It does, because they don't want the Thorn team to be eliminated, so they throw Wright under the bus. Thorn plays Elevate level teams while Wright plays M&D Black?? Sounds like someone is hiding! Smoke and mirrors for YJ. Guess they don't want the parents to complain that they're losing all the games so they are driving interstate to play weak teams and call themselves winners. Ha!

They put YJ blue and M&D black in opposing brackets as the most likely to advance out and play each other in the finals. Or tell yourself whatever you need to feel better.

Haha, just like they did last year, right??? Too funny

That is crazy!

Do not worry. YJ Thorn team won't win the bracket.

Why? It's not like they have to play the YJ Wright team they always lose to. The real A team will play M&D in pool play.

If Thorn doesn't win that bracket that would be hysterical. They are playing it "safe" They are playing clubs that aren't competitive. Everyone knows whats going on. Its ridiculous.

Wusses. Parents keep drinking that Koolaid!!

Big talker. Talk about Thorne, talk about YJ. You say Thorne is playing Elevate type teams while you play town teams and lose to Kobra Kai. Sounds like a competive summer for YOU. Ha !!!!

Thorn is the A team. They should be playing in the top bracket. Stop trying to hide.

[quote=Anonymous]Big talker. Talk about Thorne, talk about YJ. You say Thorne is playing Elevate type teams while you play town teams and lose to Kobra Kai. Sounds like a competive summer for YOU. Ha !!!!

Wright girls left and went to leg they beat Thorn last summer no reason to believe anything has changed except Thorn lost players and those Wright girls are wearing a different color piney.

5'7" girl last year, now at TG and draw girl previous year, still on Wright did all the scoring in the 2 games Wright beat Thorne. Thorne lost 2 girls but gained 4 excellent players. While girls that left for leg are very good, not a factor in those wins. Along for the ride. Bye

Ok so let me get this straight, the 5"7 girl that is still on wright's team.. that single handedly beat thorns team the previous year. Is good enough to beat thorns team but not good enough to be on thorns team ? As they dropped her back down like a bad habit. Huh... gonna be fun watching this girl run all over you guys again this summer. Another ignorant post from a yj A parent who has no clue how to play the game of lacrosse!

I read this silly posts and it is so hard not to comment. it will be fun watching Wrights team play. The top girls on that team are all TEAM players. Passing and working together. That is the only difference between Thorn and Wright. No one on Wrights team is playing for themselves. There is no favoritism. That's why Wrights team has more success. Thorn and the other coach is not vested in that team at all. Its all about a couple of girls and that's it. Wrights team is getting awesome training and a true understanding of the fundamentals of the game. No drama, all the girls get to play. This is what the sport should be about. This is why some girls CHOSE not to go to Thorns team. Just so you get the facts "straight"

Wright is by far the better coach. It is hard to even call Thorn a coach. Fact.

You must mean the bracket in the Sachem tourney.

Are there are lax programs in between rec league and elite? looking for a program for a multi sport girl. not interested in driving to all kinds of tournaments across the u.s. daughter is very athletic and wants to improve, but not enough opportunities in games & scrimmages (middies here only pass to each other, attack & defense don't touch the ball).

There are some in-between clubs depending on your area. Blue Devils in eastern Suffolk comes to mind. Maybe FL$ in Nassau? I'm really not sure of others. Girls at all levels are horrific ball hogs unless it is beaten out of them by the coach.

They only pass to girls they know can catch and throw the ball. That only happens when they are athletic (like you say your daughter is) AND committed to putting the time in, otherwise you are wasting your time. There is a reason girls don't pass to your daughter.

Typical excuse of a ball hog parent. My daughter is the best blah blah blah. The reason they don't pass is because you and your crappy coach don't force them to.

The ball should do the work. Pass the ball if it is the right play. If the girl doesn't/can't catch it, thats on them. The girls will figure it out quickly enough that they're the weak link.

It's not a that I think my daughter is the best. The fact is she can catch throw and shoot. It didn't happen by accident. My daughter loves to pass the ball to other girls who are similar. Sadly, there are too many girls on the field that make way to many mistakes. If your daughter is wide open and nobody passes to her, it's probably because she will likely miss the pass, drop the ball, or be intercepted. It's a lot of work to gain possession of the ball, it must be valued.

No, the ball should be passed to her if it's the right play. If she drops it, it's on her. Girls are mean. She'll get the message pretty quickly that she needs to step up her game. Also, most girls this age are hypercritical of themselves so she'll know darn well it's her fault. Parents talking to the girls parents will usually add to the pressure "Oh ... it would have been great if little Suzzie had caught that pass!" Trading a short term over a better long term fix is being short sighted. A win in 6th grade means less than nothing.

"They never pass me the ball."

"The girls pass me the ball but I don't catch it."

Which statement gets you a better player in the long run? The answer is obvious. If little Suzzie gets better the whole team gets better and teams win games.

The problem is...there are too many little Suzies who don't put the time in, and not enough girls who are skilled and consistent. That's why Maryland teams are better. The girls are much more dedicated as a whole. And I disagree that 6th-grade games don't matter. Winning games in 6th sets the tone and reveals difference makers. 8th grade comes around real fast, and that is recruiting year. Many of the better girls are also hoping to play Varsity in 8th grade, so 6th grade matters a lot!

what did the coach form South Carolina say? Kids are not different, they haven't changed, its the parents, they are teaching their kids all the wrong things. ITS ON ALL OF US, they are your kids, they are not adults and you are the parents and a 6th grader who is still your responsibility to mold/push/change your kid or not.

Original poster -- eastern suffolk is too far....any suggestions for reasonably priced nassau would be great. daughter can catch, cradle and shoot. her left side is weak though. she scores when she picks up dropped ball. she plays other sports so understand that she's not at the level of a club/year round player.

Good Lord, your string of answers are a nightmare. The OP was speaking about a PAL league, new girls aren't supposed to join because they aren't good enough for your all-star? How are girls going to learn? Michael Jordan didn't play organized basketball until 9th grade. Maybe the new girls will put in the time and become great, but the key is giving them the time. Relax, your daughter will still get recruited in 8th grade. Her "go to goal" mentality, the one you instilled in her, will get her some goals. Unfortunately, they usually don't call charges on those kids, I really wish they would.

The girls in Maryland are older in 6th grade :-)

I'm was always referring to travel, not PAL which is a waste of time. Girls/woman's lacrosse is one of the most skilled and athletic sports out there. You need to be aggressive but also smart. The best girls know when they can go to goal and score but they need to be smart about it too. Getting stripped or taking a bad shot is just as bad as a weak girl missing her pass. Keep in mind that goals need to be scored to win games. I do agree that many of the rules in girls lax favor the aggressive girl, that's just the way it is. My aim is not to be condescending just telling it the way I see it. My daughter was the girl who couldn't catch the ball a couple years ago but has worked hard to get better because she saw how the better players were playing and wanted to be like them, and not sit on the bench. If you think ithings are any different in soccer or basketball you'd be fooling yourself. It is sad in a way that youth sports have become so complicated and competive that's why the majority of kids quit by the time they hit 9th grade.

Maryland lacrosse 6th grader = 8th grader everywhere else

That's not true, they just practice more. Boys hold back, not girls. They may have a few moths on NY girls because of a later cut off, but that's it. Keep making excuses!

You need to watch more sports... girls lacrosse is now THE WORST of all sports. Put your head down, run to the cage and take the free possession. A whistle every 10-20 second kills any transition game and excitement. I truly feel that it requires the least skill of any game I've ever watched or played. I have HS girls that will be playing in college, a middle school girl and a 5th grade boy and even 5th grade boys lax is 1000x more exciting and fun to watch. It tragic the way the sport has taken a nosedive in the last 5-10 years.

I thought I saw on this thread of b 2023 girls moving to A and some girls moving back to B. Did that happen? and did they get a new coach?

No new coach, no new team. Both still suck.

[quote=Anonymous]I thought I saw on this thread of b 2023 girls moving to A and some girls moving back to B. Did that happen? and did they get a new coach?

That didn't happen and won't happen. The A team consist of siblings of older yj already in the program and the B team lost players to other clubs and is a shell of what they were last year. New coach is not happening.

Blah blah blah, sorry she didn't get pulled up, glad you left, good luck with the new club!

It will always be YJA and everyone else.....

Thats too bad. I thought they would make a good decision finally. What about there was rumor that they took b players to A because no one wants to play on that team anymore. Did that happen?

Hahaha, hold your bragging until you actually win something. You are embarrassing yourself again! Maybe you should start preparing yourself for another disappointing summer ye arse!

Everyone else like TG who consistently whips YJA's butts?

Igloo is better than YJ no question about it.

TG better than Igloo

Contrary to the previous comments yes it did happen. Only thing that didn't was new A coach. I guess CR believes it's in the clubs best interest to have a daddy coach who's kid never come out of the game and ruin the YJ brand. Par for the course..... love the nepotism

With an even bigger A roster and a coaches kid who doesn't come out of games means less playing time for everyone else.

Sounds like good times!

Why the draw to such a crazy team? I can't even imagine what the sidelines look like. It sounds like everyone is unhappy there but I guess being on A is more important than anything else.

No draw, talented girls have already left because they're fed up. Girls that were moved up will be deer in headlights in a few weeks. Girls who just joined will be regretting their decision, and the better girls will be trying out for TG, Igloo, and Legacy next year due to a losing record. We are watching the implosion of the team due to favors, family, and friends, proven recipe for disaster. I have been enjoying my popcorn during the show!

My daughter knows the Thorn girls well. She says there are 2-3 girls who are great, the rest, not so much. Coach leaves the mediocre players, including the daughters, on the field thinking the good girls will carry them. Not working. The whole team not working. It's a shame. Toxic

Wow I'm impressed on how insightful your 11 year old daughter is to know so much about a team she doesn't even play on! Or maybe you are just a scorned daddy who's little superstar didn't make the cut?

That hit the nail on the head. For the record, YJA has beaten Igloo AND top gun. The scorned daddy (& mommy) who revel in Wright beating Thorn two times fails to remember they were beaten twice by Thorn. New team/club that is not YJ, TG or Igloo is the perfect place for daddy & mommy to feel their kid is finally the star. It is a shell of a C team. Other than 3 decent BBP girls and a goalie, there will be 8 other field players who couldn't make any of the clubs. This popcorn bowl is going to be so tastey fir years to come.

One of those BBP girls is worth something. The rest are just average.

[quote=Anonymous]That hit the nail on the head. For the record, YJA has beaten Igloo AND top gun. The scorned daddy (& mommy) who revel in Wright beating Thorn two times fails to remember they were beaten twice by Thorn. New team/club that is not YJ, TG or Igloo is the perfect place for daddy & mommy to feel their kid is finally the star. It is a shell of a C team. Other than 3 decent BBP girls and a goalie, there will be 8 other field players who couldn't make any of the clubs. This popcorn bowl is going to be so tastey fir years to come.

Not sure what record you are talking about TG played YJA once and beat them. Igloo also beat YJ. For the record.
[quote=Anonymous]That hit the nail on the head. For the record, YJA has beaten Igloo AND top gun. The scorned daddy (& mommy) who revel in Wright beating Thorn two times fails to remember they were beaten twice by Thorn. New team/club that is not YJ, TG or Igloo is the perfect place for daddy & mommy to feel their kid is finally the star. It is a shell of a C team. Other than 3 decent BBP girls and a goalie, there will be 8 other field players who couldn't make any of the clubs. This popcorn bowl is going to be so tastey fir years to come.

What tournament did YJ beat TG?

When did they beat Top Guns? My daughter has been on that team for years, and I don't recall that happening. I also know that YJ (a team beaten by their own B team 2X), squeaked out one goal in final seconds win against Igloo. I do enjoy the rivalry and think it's great that the 2023 age group is becoming much more competitive with each other on LI. I wish the new Leg team all the best, and hope to play some good games with them. We should all just try to get along and realize that there are lots of talented girls playing on many different teams. Many of them will play together later on. There is no dominant team in this age group, which makes things much more fun!

[quote=Anonymous]That hit the nail on the head. For the record, YJA has beaten Igloo AND top gun. The scorned daddy (& mommy) who revel in Wright beating Thorn two times fails to remember they were beaten twice by Thorn. New team/club that is not YJ, TG or Igloo is the perfect place for daddy & mommy to feel their kid is finally the star. It is a shell of a C team. Other than 3 decent BBP girls and a goalie, there will be 8 other field players who couldn't make any of the clubs. This popcorn bowl is going to be so tastey fir years to come.

Thats awesome a 2-2 record against the B team. Congrats

Thanks Mom/Dad! Would bet YJ is happy to be rid of you with a coment like that

yellow jackts A won't play B this year.

That should be a relief for Coach Thorn!

YJA and YJB play in all the same tournaments in championship format. Do you have a crystal ball to know they won't face each other in a playoff game or are you just flapping your gums?

they are putting them n dfferent brackets. wrights team is in harder brackets to hope for elimination. its all set up for thorn to win

That's not how it works. While every tournament is a little different, all clubs that I know of do the same exact thing. They tell the tournament director which team is number 1,2 etc. they are then placed in opposing brackets to better the chances for the club to appear in the finals. If both the A team and B team take care of business, they will play in the finals. Some tournaments place all the top A teams in one bracket, where the exiting team has an easy win in the playoffs. Some tournament spread the top teams out through the brackets, then you have blowout games in pool play. Let's be honest, some of the games at these tournaments are a complete waste of time. I personally like the invitational type of tournaments that are emerging, like the G8. Keeps the level of play much higher. The 2023 parents have a lot to learn. Funny part is to watch all the alternative clubs on LI so excited because they can actually compete with a YJ team (only at 2023). The honest truth is not that these alternative clubs are now "good", it's that the YJ team is as bad as the rest. Not up to par with the rest of the east coast. Can the talent level rise to the challenge for any LI team at 2023? T seems that the one or two girls spread out to other clubs has diluted the talent that would otherwise make YJ competitive.

Yes, the fact that some of the better girls (more than one or two) in the grade have decided to play clubs other than YJ makes things interesting. YJ still has a handful of the best in the grade, but the coaching has hurt them. This is why some girls left. looking forward to a summer that will clarify things a bit more. I agree that it is great for LI to have 3 teams that are competitive as I see it. YJA, TGB, Leg

Or instead of LI having one team that is a competitive A team -YJA,
You now have several less competitive B teams- YJA, TGB, LEG.
And are TG and YJ now being compared in the same sentence with LEG? Enough said!

Don't really see it as a bad team, nor are these "b" teams. Time will tell for that. Just more like boys side, where there are a few competitive teams. This is good for everyone.

Legacy? Stop it. How about igloo and Jesters and Elevate

Igloo, Jesters, and Elevate?.......sorry, you must have read the posts wrong......they were talking about quality clubs. To be honest, not sure how LEG got on that list either.
I would put Elevate over LEG all day long.

The problem is that these LI clubs rarely play in the same tournaments.

The traditional YJ tournament at the end of the season has been dropped, so the likelyhood of the YJA and YJB teams meeting up is gone. The teams will never meet up in the final of any regular summer tournament. The odds are just too stacked against both teams for that outcome to happen. It's not saying which team is better than the other, it's just unlikely both teams will make a run to the final game on the same weekend. It's a shame. I'd like to see that game played.

I agree, legs is a few good players away from competing with the top clubs. Great owner and coach but just don't have the talent yet. They're still building.

[quote=Anonymous]Igloo, Jesters, and Elevate?.......sorry, you must have read the posts wrong......they were talking about quality clubs. To be honest, not sure how LEG got on that list either.
I would put Elevate over LEG all day long.

The problem is that these LI clubs rarely play in the same tournaments.

The only tournament in which a few of these teams compete in is the TG tournament at the end of July.

This talk of B team beating the A team is absurd. B lost their best player to another club and will not beat the A team this year. I hope we do play B so we can shut everyone up about this and move on.

[quote=Anonymous]This talk of B team beating the A team is absurd. B lost their best player to another club and will not beat the A team this year. I hope we do play B so we can shut everyone up about this and move on.

For the B teams sake hopefully they don't play if they do A team by 10 goals.

YJ, Igloo, Legacy all played each other at Lax Blast last summer. Don't know about this summer.

Both teams have solid players with big rosters. The problem with A is they don't rotate players as much as the B. Too many on A sit the bench as B rotates every player. Coaching would decide the outcome of this game.

Scores?