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Posted By: B_O_T_C Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/29/15 01:49 PM
BOTC is opening our Fall 2015 through Summer 2016 thread covering the Girls 2019-9th Grade age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/01/15 11:29 AM
I'll kick off the 2019 thread with a question.

Does anyone find it CRAZY that our daughters who have not started high school are being recruited for college?

Mine is likely not in the first wave of recruiting that has already started, but my guess is she will be getting offers next summer given what has happened with some her 2018 friends of similar ability.

With the early recruiting happening earlier and earlier, there is already a lot of pressure on girls and their families in the 2019 class. At our club there are already some with "offers" and we are being told that we need to be proactive now with our daughter.

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it and think we are doing our daughters a disservice by allowing this process to get out of hand. We are going to try to wait as long as possible and also try to take as much pressure off of her as possible, but it's hard. What was supposed to be a sport played for the love of the game, feels like it is becoming a job at way too young an age.

Posted By: Anonymous Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/01/15 12:32 PM
Let your daughter set the pace - talk to her about colleges and in general schools that she realistically wants to go to and play for. Let her take ownership of as much of the process as possible - don't try to shelter her from it. Let her embrace it on her own - don't force it on her. Remember - they cannot contact you - if you are not interested in the recruiting thing just let it happen and don't do anything. You are still in control - people keep forgetting that. Don't let what you hear from the outside world about so and so getting a full ride to Syracuse, Northwestern or to whatever influence your actions. My daughter is not in that top tier of players either - but, she is all set and is locked and loaded to take this on when it comes. "Prepare your child for the road, not the road for your child."
Posted By: Anonymous Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/01/15 08:52 PM
Wow. What club?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 08:36 PM
Does anyone know which teams will be going to the Chesapeake Invitational in November?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/04/15 11:49 PM
Several ages from Integrity.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/05/15 01:14 PM
What is Integrity? Odd name for a travel lax program? Director must have a lot to live up to.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/05/15 03:14 PM
have fun with it go to the schools and check them out. Make fun weekends out of it. Enjoy the ride
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/12/15 02:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
have fun with it go to the schools and check them out. Make fun weekends out of it. Enjoy the ride

I know that I will probably get slammed for this - but, yes, FUN. It's almost too easy to lose sight of that with this totally hypercompetitive "college scholarship" thing on most peoples' minds. I feel truly blessed that my daughter totally loves it and has fun every time she picks up her lacrosse stick. I cherish those times more and more now when she asks me to throw the ball around with her. I have flashbacks of the little tiny thing years ago - spending more time doing ground balls then catching. Now - I need to pay attention or she'll take my head off. Yes, make it fun!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/13/15 10:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Integrity? Odd name for a travel lax program? Director must have a lot to live up to.

The director has a resume' a mile long, from high school, summer club to Naval Academy club coach to NCAA coach at division 1 and 2. Integrity is a club team based in Anne Arundel county Maryland, near Annapolis. They're really good, and well known down here. Their 2019 teams and their 2020 team are VERY good. 202's lost one game all summer, in all A brackets (if there is such a thing at the 2020 level).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/14/15 12:47 AM
He or she is correct. They are the 4th or 5th best team in md. Good program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 12:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Integrity? Odd name for a travel lax program? Director must have a lot to live up to.

The director has a resume' a mile long, from high school, summer club to Naval Academy club coach to NCAA coach at division 1 and 2. Integrity is a club team based in Anne Arundel county Maryland, near Annapolis. They're really good, and well known down here. Their 2019 teams and their 2020 team are VERY good. 202's lost one game all summer, in all A brackets (if there is such a thing at the 2020 level).


Yeah but they are one of the clubs whose drop off from their A team to B team is dramatic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 03:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Integrity? Odd name for a travel lax program? Director must have a lot to live up to.

The director has a resume' a mile long, from high school, summer club to Naval Academy club coach to NCAA coach at division 1 and 2. Integrity is a club team based in Anne Arundel county Maryland, near Annapolis. They're really good, and well known down here. Their 2019 teams and their 2020 team are VERY good. 202's lost one game all summer, in all A brackets (if there is such a thing at the 2020 level).


Who did 2020 lose to this summer?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 10:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Integrity? Odd name for a travel lax program? Director must have a lot to live up to.


It would only have been funnier and ironic if a club like Elevate named their club Integrity. Elevate my ego, elevate my wallet.....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 10:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Integrity? Odd name for a travel lax program? Director must have a lot to live up to.


It would only have been funnier and ironic if a club like Elevate named their club Integrity. Elevate my ego, elevate my wallet.....


People are catching on to how Elevate is run and operated. I saw and spoke with many people that are fed up, mostly with the lack of ethics and respect Elevate displays towards their own families.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/17/15 10:58 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Integrity? Odd name for a travel lax program? Director must have a lot to live up to.

The director has a resume' a mile long, from high school, summer club to Naval Academy club coach to NCAA coach at division 1 and 2. Integrity is a club team based in Anne Arundel county Maryland, near Annapolis. They're really good, and well known down here. Their 2019 teams and their 2020 team are VERY good. 202's lost one game all summer, in all A brackets (if there is such a thing at the 2020 level).


Who did 2020 lose to this summer?

Better question - who did their 2020 team play last summer? Or where did they play last summer? I did not see them at Rock The Fields, Lax For The Cure, or G8. Besides - I thought this was the 2019 forum - how did their 2019 team do?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 09:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Integrity? Odd name for a travel lax program? Director must have a lot to live up to.

The director has a resume' a mile long, from high school, summer club to Naval Academy club coach to NCAA coach at division 1 and 2. Integrity is a club team based in Anne Arundel county Maryland, near Annapolis. They're really good, and well known down here. Their 2019 teams and their 2020 team are VERY good. 202's lost one game all summer, in all A brackets (if there is such a thing at the 2020 level).


True, haven't seen them in the top brackets yet and we play almost all the major tourneys.

Who did 2020 lose to this summer?

Better question - who did their 2020 team play last summer? Or where did they play last summer? I did not see them at Rock The Fields, Lax For The Cure, or G8. Besides - I thought this was the 2019 forum - how did their 2019 team do?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 10:26 PM
What is your opinion of New Jersey girls' lacrosse, 2019?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 10:49 PM
I had an AWESOME experience with Elevate for the past 3 years. I have no complaints. My daughter has fun every time she steps on the field and she learns a lot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/19/15 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Integrity? Odd name for a travel lax program? Director must have a lot to live up to.

The director has a resume' a mile long, from high school, summer club to Naval Academy club coach to NCAA coach at division 1 and 2. Integrity is a club team based in Anne Arundel county Maryland, near Annapolis. They're really good, and well known down here. Their 2019 teams and their 2020 team are VERY good. 202's lost one game all summer, in all A brackets (if there is such a thing at the 2020 level).


True, haven't seen them in the top brackets yet and we play almost all the major tourneys.

Who did 2020 lose to this summer?

Better question - who did their 2020 team play last summer? Or where did they play last summer? I did not see them at Rock The Fields, Lax For The Cure, or G8. Besides - I thought this was the 2019 forum - how did their 2019 team do?


The 2019's and 2020's are VERY good teams. My daughter is a 2016 so I'm not intimately familiar with these two teams. But, at a couple of tournaments, I did sit and watch them play a few games and came away VERY impressed. The 2019's a BIG group, tall and fast. The 2020's are skilled for such a young group. They've played and beaten Top Guns Black, SJS Pink, Heros, etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 12:27 AM
Why is elevate no longer playing at cash??????????????
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 01:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is elevate no longer playing at cash??????????????


New Board of Education rules.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 01:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is elevate no longer playing at cash??????????????


Yeah I just saw that elevate posted tryouts on here and not at cold spring. In addition to the failed CSH relationship, they are no longer welcome at the HUB I just found out. I think they will end up practicing in an abandoned parking lot at this point. Karma!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 01:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I had an AWESOME experience with Elevate for the past 3 years. I have no complaints. My daughter has fun every time she steps on the field and she learns a lot.


Thanks DK I am happy to hear your daughter had a great summer!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 01:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is elevate no longer playing at cash??????????????


Yeah I just saw that elevate posted tryouts on here and not at cold spring. In addition to the failed CSH relationship, they are no longer welcome at the HUB I just found out. I think they will end up practicing in an abandoned parking lot at this point. Karma!


Absolutely untrue!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 02:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is elevate no longer playing at cash??????????????


Yeah I just saw that elevate posted tryouts on here and not at cold spring. In addition to the failed CSH relationship, they are no longer welcome at the HUB I just found out. I think they will end up practicing in an abandoned parking lot at this point. Karma!


Absolutely untrue!


Tryouts are at cold spring?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 04:25 PM
sorry we don't allow for these type of attacks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 04:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is Integrity? Odd name for a travel lax program? Director must have a lot to live up to.

The director has a resume' a mile long, from high school, summer club to Naval Academy club coach to NCAA coach at division 1 and 2. Integrity is a club team based in Anne Arundel county Maryland, near Annapolis. They're really good, and well known down here. Their 2019 teams and their 2020 team are VERY good. 202's lost one game all summer, in all A brackets (if there is such a thing at the 2020 level).


True, haven't seen them in the top brackets yet and we play almost all the major tourneys.

Who did 2020 lose to this summer?

Better question - who did their 2020 team play last summer? Or where did they play last summer? I did not see them at Rock The Fields, Lax For The Cure, or G8. Besides - I thought this was the 2019 forum - how did their 2019 team do?


The 2019's and 2020's are VERY good teams. My daughter is a 2016 so I'm not intimately familiar with these two teams. But, at a couple of tournaments, I did sit and watch them play a few games and came away VERY impressed. The 2019's a BIG group, tall and fast. The 2020's are skilled for such a young group. They've played and beaten Top Guns Black, SJS Pink, Heros, etc.


Integrity 2020 was 7-3-2 in the spring in MD. Getting crushed twice by M&D. Not sure what tournaments they played in this summer, but it certainly wasn't any that the other top clubs were at.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 05:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is elevate no longer playing at cash??????????????


Yeah I just saw that elevate posted tryouts on here and not at cold spring. In addition to the failed CSH relationship, they are no longer welcome at the HUB I just found out. I think they will end up practicing in an abandoned parking lot at this point. Karma!


Anybody know how much the Elevate pre-tryout camp costs next week? The website doesn't say (or at least I couldn't find it) until you set up an account with all your info. Thanks
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is elevate no longer playing at cash??????????????


Yeah I just saw that elevate posted tryouts on here and not at cold spring. In addition to the failed CSH relationship, they are no longer welcome at the HUB I just found out. I think they will end up practicing in an abandoned parking lot at this point. Karma!


Anybody know how much the Elevate pre-tryout camp costs next week? The website doesn't say (or at least I couldn't find it) until you set up an account with all your info. Thanks


I will contact them for you.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is elevate no longer playing at cash??????????????


Yeah I just saw that elevate posted tryouts on here and not at cold spring. In addition to the failed CSH relationship, they are no longer welcome at the HUB I just found out. I think they will end up practicing in an abandoned parking lot at this point. Karma!


Anybody know how much the Elevate pre-tryout camp costs next week? The website doesn't say (or at least I couldn't find it) until you set up an account with all your info. Thanks


Contact Dave dk@teamelevatelax.com
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 07:18 PM
$240 for 2 days or $150 for single day
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$240 for 2 days or $150 for single day


Wow! Thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 08/20/15 08:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
$240 for 2 days or $150 for single day


Wow! Thanks.


but you get a pinnie that you can keep forever!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/05/15 03:43 PM
2019 topic, didn't see any threads. What should we expect from a travel club regarding 2019 Girls. I'm pretty tuned into the boys side but my daughters team is a very good team from PA and it doesn't seem that her club is doing anything regarding exposure and college guidance. Does it just start later for girls? What are the best showcase events. Team or individual?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/05/15 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 topic, didn't see any threads. What should we expect from a travel club regarding 2019 Girls. I'm pretty tuned into the boys side but my daughters team is a very good team from PA and it doesn't seem that her club is doing anything regarding exposure and college guidance. Does it just start later for girls? What are the best showcase events. Team or individual?

Please don't count on your club to be the best advocate for your kid! Put a list of schools together that she might be interested in and do 1-2 camps with them ,find out what tournaments they will be at in the summer and see if your club will be at any of them. You need to be very proactive for your daughter, clubs are not all that interested in your kid after the check clears, unless they're top of the line blue chip player that they can use to advertise on the website as an early recruit to a top 10 program. there's lots of information on this site and others regarding the recruitting process - good luck
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 01:52 PM
2019 a very quiet thread.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 03:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 a very quiet thread.


Maybe that's a sign that this particular class, for whatever reason, has more sane parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/06/15 11:53 PM
don't let that fool you, plenty of crazy here...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/10/15 03:16 PM
What is going on with 2019? Many TG and YJ and [****] girls at Liberty tryouts last weekend. Will the top girls jump ship? Why?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with 2019? Many TG and YJ and [****] girls at Liberty tryouts last weekend. Will the top girls jump ship? Why?


Maybe many people are beginning to discover that some of these clubs are not as advertised and if your child is in the majority of players that actually will benefit from training and there is a lack of it then they move on. Going to practice once a week and not playing much in tournaments is NOT what travel lax is supposed to be.
Some clubs seem to favor the win at all costs and play the same few kids even if you travel out of state and foot the bill for it.
Some clubs are excellent at training and building an all around player. Some are all about getting D1 commits to put on their website.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/12/15 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by The Hop
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with 2019? Many TG and YJ and [****] girls at Liberty tryouts last weekend. Will the top girls jump ship? Why?


Maybe many people are beginning to discover that some of these clubs are not as advertised and if your child is in the majority of players that actually will benefit from training and there is a lack of it then they move on. Going to practice once a week and not playing much in tournaments is NOT what travel lax is supposed to be.
Some clubs seem to favor the win at all costs and play the same few kids even if you travel out of state and foot the bill for it.
Some clubs are excellent at training and building an all around player. Some are all about getting D1 commits to put on their website.


Well said. In fact, M&D took their commits off the website and haven't updated championships in over a year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/12/15 01:56 PM
Originally Posted by The Hop
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is going on with 2019? Many TG and YJ and [****] girls at Liberty tryouts last weekend. Will the top girls jump ship? Why?


Maybe many people are beginning to discover that some of these clubs are not as advertised and if your child is in the majority of players that actually will benefit from training and there is a lack of it then they move on. Going to practice once a week and not playing much in tournaments is NOT what travel lax is supposed to be.
Some clubs seem to favor the win at all costs and play the same few kids even if you travel out of state and foot the bill for it.
Some clubs are excellent at training and building an all around player. Some are all about getting D1 commits to put on their website.


Some clubs are good at both. They aren't mutually exclusive.

This is why they make vanilla and chocolate ice cream. Different strokes for different folks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/16/15 04:10 PM
Liberty 2019 Black has the best of the nassau players, many from the Long Island All American roster from this past summer, a great coaching staff and is looking real good going into the recruiting circuit this fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/16/15 04:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Liberty 2019 Black has the best of the nassau players, many from the Long Island All American roster from this past summer, a great coaching staff and is looking real good going into the recruiting circuit this fall.


Um, congratulations?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/18/15 08:15 PM
Liberty you serious or being sarcastic I can't tell
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/18/15 10:08 PM
my 2019 girls travel lacrosse team is better than yours....and we have better tents and more expensive swag too...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 11:59 AM
Are some 2019s already verbally committing or just being looked at?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are some 2019s already verbally committing or just being looked at?


There are already 2019 girls committing
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are some 2019s already verbally committing or just being looked at?


There are already 2019 girls committing


Read that IWLCA is proposing to NCAA rules changes to eliminate early recruitment. No communication at all with athletes until Sep 1 of junior year. Athletes can be evaluated prior at tournaments or showcases but no contact until 11th grade.

Not sure when it would be imlpemented (needs to be voted and approved first by the NCAA) but at least it is a right step in the right direction to eliminate 9th graders worrying about college. It is being put forth by the college coaches themselves so hopefully it has some legs.
agree completely...boys and girls who have not even hit puberty in some cases should never have the pressure of a college decision at that age....sounds simple, but let them enjoy being a kid...plenty of life changing decisions await them w/out the bs of recruiting at that age....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 03:45 PM
I agree but how do they even implement it , do the verbal commitments that are in effect at the time for say a 10th grader get tossed out the window ?
I imagine that they would grandfather already recruited kids...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 04:43 PM
there is nothing to grandfather a verbal means nothing to the NCAA or the universities. Just a conversation between a coach and a student athlete
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/22/15 11:30 PM
Grandfathered? Until you sign NLI for your sport its anyones spot, and I would bet there are 5+/- kids per position per recruiting cycle a coach is chasing. Everyone is replaceable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 12:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Grandfathered? Until you sign NLI for your sport its anyones spot, and I would bet there are 5+/- kids per position per recruiting cycle a coach is chasing. Everyone is replaceable.


A kid should only worry if he doesn't keep playing at the level he was recruited at. They need to keep working as hard or harder and things will most likely work out. It's the slackers that could be bumped. Only kids I know that are not actually going to their commitment are those who traded up, or did make grades and had to trade down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 12:40 AM
The only losers that i can see from the proposal are the club directors who r lining their pockets w 9th grade recruiting camps etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 01:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are some 2019s already verbally committing or just being looked at?


There are already 2019 girls committing


Read that IWLCA is proposing to NCAA rules changes to eliminate early recruitment. No communication at all with athletes until Sep 1 of junior year. Athletes can be evaluated prior at tournaments or showcases but no contact until 11th grade.

Not sure when it would be imlpemented (needs to be voted and approved first by the NCAA) but at least it is a right step in the right direction to eliminate 9th graders worrying about college. It is being put forth by the college coaches themselves so hopefully it has some legs.


It has legs but it isn't quite so clear cut ... It says no "direct communication" between coach and recruit. It seems to leave the loophole of indirect contact (thru club coach for example).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 01:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are some 2019s already verbally committing or just being looked at?


There are already 2019 girls committing
I know of one who committed to Northwestern. do you really know of others? If so, how many? I highly doubt there are many 2019 commits at this point.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 01:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Grandfathered? Until you sign NLI for your sport its anyones spot, and I would bet there are 5+/- kids per position per recruiting cycle a coach is chasing. Everyone is replaceable.
It really seems like you guys don't know what you are talking about or haven't gone through the process with your kids yet. Other than for grades, getting in trouble for something reasonably serious, or career-ending injuries, coaches honor their verbal commitments and their is still a lot of honor in the game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/23/15 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The only losers that i can see from the proposal are the club directors who r lining their pockets w 9th grade recruiting camps etc.
really? This would be better for the club directors. Longer to keep hold over the kids for the dream of committing somewhere. If a kid commits as a freshman or sophomore, harder to get them to show up to club events/camps in the older years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 09/25/15 01:53 PM
What is the expected timing on the vote and/or approval by the NCAA of the IWLCA proposals regarding early recruiting rules and restrictions?

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/05/15 04:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The only losers that i can see from the proposal are the club directors who r lining their pockets w 9th grade recruiting camps etc.

Does the contact affect the coaches talking to the kids when they show up at the camps? How is this rule going to be enforced? It's going to be the same loopholes.
And with Instagram, Snapchat and what ever else is out there - direct contact can easily be avoided.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 01:47 AM
question does anyone know any LI 2019's that have verbally committed already?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 11:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question does anyone know any LI 2019's that have verbally committed already?


Know some outside of LI. The 2019s are in full swing a good 6-9 months ahead of here the 2018s were last year. It has not only not slowed down, it's accelerated again!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 11:59 AM
Originally Posted by anonomous
agree completely...boys and girls who have not even hit puberty in some cases should never have the pressure of a college decision at that age....sounds simple, but let them enjoy being a kid...plenty of life changing decisions await them w/out the bs of recruiting at that age....

Hitting puberty? What are you talking about? There are some teams from Maryland that have girls on their 2019 teams who are already driving...
Hitting puberty is no longer an issue. eek
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/14/15 02:14 PM
I know four 2019's that have offers all D1 but didn't commit yet all from Long island. No one saws you have to commit to your first offer unless its your dream.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question does anyone know any LI 2019's that have verbally committed already?


Know some outside of LI. The 2019s are in full swing a good 6-9 months ahead of here the 2018s were last year. It has not only not slowed down, it's accelerated again!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/15/15 12:16 PM
What club do they play for?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I know four 2019's that have offers all D1 but didn't commit yet all from Long island. No one saws you have to commit to your first offer unless its your dream.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question does anyone know any LI 2019's that have verbally committed already?


Know some outside of LI. The 2019s are in full swing a good 6-9 months ahead of here the 2018s were last year. It has not only not slowed down, it's accelerated again!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/17/15 11:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question does anyone know any LI 2019's that have verbally committed already?


Know some outside of LI. The 2019s are in full swing a good 6-9 months ahead of here the 2018s were last year. It has not only not slowed down, it's accelerated again!

please tell us a few of the schools who these 19 kids have committed to
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/18/15 12:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question does anyone know any LI 2019's that have verbally committed already?


Know some outside of LI. The 2019s are in full swing a good 6-9 months ahead of here the 2018s were last year. It has not only not slowed down, it's accelerated again!

please tell us a few of the schools who these 19 kids have committed to


Maryland, Northwestern, UNC, Ohio State just to name a few ... offers have been extended to many that have not committed yet as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/18/15 01:37 PM
It seems like a really big risk to be extending an offer to high school freshman before seeing what their first quarter/semester grades look like. This is lacrosse, I was always under the impression that coaches would wait to see how a player was doing academically before making any serious "moves". I am fully expecting the first wave of commits to happen about two weeks after the first quarter/semester grades come out. I think it was right around mid-November last year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/18/15 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
question does anyone know any LI 2019's that have verbally committed already?


Know some outside of LI. The 2019s are in full swing a good 6-9 months ahead of here the 2018s were last year. It has not only not slowed down, it's accelerated again!

please tell us a few of the schools who these 19 kids have committed to


Maryland, Northwestern, UNC, Ohio State just to name a few ... offers have been extended to many that have not committed yet as well.
There will be a very small percentage of girls committing this school year. This gets the parents all excited, but it's top D1 only. If your daughter is D2 or D3 caliber, the commits start happening junior and senior year, so don't worry, it's no rush for most of the girls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/18/15 10:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It seems like a really big risk to be extending an offer to high school freshman before seeing what their first quarter/semester grades look like. This is lacrosse, I was always under the impression that coaches would wait to see how a player was doing academically before making any serious "moves". I am fully expecting the first wave of commits to happen about two weeks after the first quarter/semester grades come out. I think it was right around mid-November last year


Well unfortunately that is not true. And the process has accelerated 6+ months from last year for sure. I am not advocating it, just stating the facts. And yes it is just the first wave, which is top teams and top tier kids. But it is much quicker and more widespread this year than last.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 01:31 PM
I just heard about Maryland getting commitments from several 2019's. Is that just rumor?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just heard about Maryland getting commitments from several 2019's. Is that just rumor?


No, a whole bunch of 2019 girls from MD committed this weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 05:50 PM
Really to where???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just heard about Maryland getting commitments from several 2019's. Is that just rumor?


No, a whole bunch of 2019 girls from MD committed this weekend.


Oh boy now the pressure is on !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really to where???


Syracuse, Northwestern. Hofstra. Traditional Long Island strongholds.

MD is taking over.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 06:39 PM
Couple to Stony Brook too. Unreal.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 06:48 PM
Makes sense most of those players are already 16.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/28/15 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Makes sense most of those players are already 16.


It was just a matter of time. You do realize that holdbacks are a boys lacrosse issue for the most part right? Girls don't switch schools to repeat 8th grade like the boys do. If a girl is older, it' because she went to prefirst which is a very, very small percentage of girls. Some of the girls that committed this week just turned 15 in the last month.

Maybe the coaches have seen the YJ 2019 Blue team and decided there is no one there worth offering yet.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Makes sense most of those players are already 16.


It was just a matter of time. You do realize that holdbacks are a boys lacrosse issue for the most part right? Girls don't switch schools to repeat 8th grade like the boys do. If a girl is older, it' because she went to prefirst which is a very, very small percentage of girls. Some of the girls that committed this week just turned 15 in the last month.

Maybe the coaches have seen the YJ 2019 Blue team and decided there is no one there worth offering yet.


I knew a girl who did just that, switched schools to reclassify. Not lacrosse, but it happens. And I thought from reading here that it happens more in MD where everyone goes to private schools. Maybe I'm misremembering.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 02:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just heard about Maryland getting commitments from several 2019's. Is that just rumor?


No, a whole bunch of 2019 girls from MD committed this weekend.


How do you find this stuff out?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 02:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I just heard about Maryland getting commitments from several 2019's. Is that just rumor?


No, a whole bunch of 2019 girls from MD committed this weekend.


How do you find this stuff out?


Because I have a 2019 son that is friends with them. They all post their commitments on Instagram. I know of at least 5 2019 M&D and Skywalkers girls that committed to MD this week.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 11:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Makes sense most of those players are already 16.


It was just a matter of time. You do realize that holdbacks are a boys lacrosse issue for the most part right? Girls don't switch schools to repeat 8th grade like the boys do. If a girl is older, it' because she went to prefirst which is a very, very small percentage of girls. Some of the girls that committed this week just turned 15 in the last month.

Maybe the coaches have seen the YJ 2019 Blue team and decided there is no one there worth offering yet.


What is "PREFIRST"? Sorry, I'm old school - isn't that normally kindergarten? I'm not surprised that it's mainly the private school girls doing it - that's an extra year of tuition that they are squeezing out of the parents. The public schools just seem to want to get people through the system and graduated.
Have any public school players from Maryland committed?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 12:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Makes sense most of those players are already 16.


It was just a matter of time. You do realize that holdbacks are a boys lacrosse issue for the most part right? Girls don't switch schools to repeat 8th grade like the boys do. If a girl is older, it' because she went to prefirst which is a very, very small percentage of girls. Some of the girls that committed this week just turned 15 in the last month.

Maybe the coaches have seen the YJ 2019 Blue team and decided there is no one there worth offering yet.


What is "PREFIRST"? Sorry, I'm old school - isn't that normally kindergarten? I'm not surprised that it's mainly the private school girls doing it - that's an extra year of tuition that they are squeezing out of the parents. The public schools just seem to want to get people through the system and graduated.
Have any public school players from Maryland committed?


Yes. A couple of them were public school girls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 05:18 PM
East Islip (Long Island for the out of towners) 2019 committed to UNC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 05:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Makes sense most of those players are already 16.


It was just a matter of time. You do realize that holdbacks are a boys lacrosse issue for the most part right? Girls don't switch schools to repeat 8th grade like the boys do. If a girl is older, it' because she went to prefirst which is a very, very small percentage of girls. Some of the girls that committed this week just turned 15 in the last month.

Maybe the coaches have seen the YJ 2019 Blue team and decided there is no one there worth offering yet.


What is "PREFIRST"? Sorry, I'm old school - isn't that normally kindergarten? I'm not surprised that it's mainly the private school girls doing it - that's an extra year of tuition that they are squeezing out of the parents. The public schools just seem to want to get people through the system and graduated.
Have any public school players from Maryland committed?


Prefirst is where some private schools put kids that have late spring or summer birthdays so that they are not so young entering first grade. Again, done more often with boys as they develop slower and may not be ready for 1st grade when they just turn 5.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 05:48 PM
Hope these parents know what they are doing. could be a long 4 years for a kid in the wrong place. Coaches have nothing to lose
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 09:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East Islip (Long Island for the out of towners) 2019 committed to UNC.

That is sad on so many levels
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 09:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Makes sense most of those players are already 16.


It was just a matter of time. You do realize that holdbacks are a boys lacrosse issue for the most part right? Girls don't switch schools to repeat 8th grade like the boys do. If a girl is older, it' because she went to prefirst which is a very, very small percentage of girls. Some of the girls that committed this week just turned 15 in the last month.

Maybe the coaches have seen the YJ 2019 Blue team and decided there is no one there worth offering yet.


What is "PREFIRST"? Sorry, I'm old school - isn't that normally kindergarten? I'm not surprised that it's mainly the private school girls doing it - that's an extra year of tuition that they are squeezing out of the parents. The public schools just seem to want to get people through the system and graduated.
Have any public school players from Maryland committed?

In state tuition for Maryland kids is very cheap (probably 1/3 the cost of Northwestern or Notre Dame), so they don't have to eat up a lot of scholarship money on local players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 10:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East Islip (Long Island for the out of towners) 2019 committed to UNC.

That is sad on so many levels


This has been happening for a number of years, girls committing before ever playing varsity. I hope it works out for each of them no! need to be negative. If this isn't what works for you then go ahead and do what works best for you and your family
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/29/15 11:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East Islip (Long Island for the out of towners) 2019 committed to UNC.

That is sad on so many levels


Good for her! Congratulations to the girl and her parents. I do not think it is sad at all in fact I think it's great!

Do you have any idea of how difficult it is to get into UNC? US News ranks UNC 30!
Do you have any idea of the caliber of athlete UNC recruits?

Why should she wait? What school should she hold out for? If something changes on either side (coach or player) she will have a ton of options. If UNC recruited her I can guarantee that just about every other coach would be happy to have her.

Great Job and I wish this young lady all the best and future success in all that
she does.

Congrats again
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 11:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East Islip (Long Island for the out of towners) 2019 committed to UNC.

That is sad on so many levels


This has been happening for a number of years, girls committing before ever playing varsity. I hope it works out for each of them no! need to be negative. If this isn't what works for you then go ahead and do what works best for you and your family


There's a good chance she has at least 1 (probably 2) years of varsity experience already. Girls on LI can play as early as 7th grade.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 01:26 PM
Congratulations to her! She is a good player on a below average HS team, so yes, she played varsity as a Middle schooler. According to MSG Varsity she had 19 goals and 12 assists as an 8th grader, however, it should be noted that 6 of those points (5Gs, 1A) were against a far inferior team from Moriches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East Islip (Long Island for the out of towners) 2019 committed to UNC.


Where do you find this info?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East Islip (Long Island for the out of towners) 2019 committed to UNC.


Where do you find this info?


Twitter
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 03:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East Islip (Long Island for the out of towners) 2019 committed to UNC.

That is sad on so many levels


Good for her! Congratulations to the girl and her parents. I do not think it is sad at all in fact I think it's great!

Do you have any idea of how difficult it is to get into UNC? US News ranks UNC 30!
Do you have any idea of the caliber of athlete UNC recruits?

Why should she wait? What school should she hold out for? If something changes on either side (coach or player) she will have a ton of options. If UNC recruited her I can guarantee that just about every other coach would be happy to have her.

Great Job and I wish this young lady all the best and future success in all that
she does.

Congrats again


First off ,its sad in that everyone including the coaches involved and the parents know that this is too young. Go ahead ask the coaches. Its also sad in that you are going to get a lot of disappointed coaches and kids .Unless some kid is a freak athlete how do the coaches know what these kids will turn into.In this case I know that this early commitment has raised a lot of eye brows of those familiar with the player as UNC has in the recent past taken a pass on very athletic kids (AA caliber) who were highly regarded by both their peers and other coaches.So yes I think overall its sad that this process is so sped up. But yes congrats to this young lady and I hope it works out for her and her future coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East Islip (Long Island for the out of towners) 2019 committed to UNC.

That is sad on so many levels


Good for her! Congratulations to the girl and her parents. I do not think it is sad at all in fact I think it's great!

Do you have any idea of how difficult it is to get into UNC? US News ranks UNC 30!
Do you have any idea of the caliber of athlete UNC recruits?

Why should she wait? What school should she hold out for? If something changes on either side (coach or player) she will have a ton of options. If UNC recruited her I can guarantee that just about every other coach would be happy to have her.

Great Job and I wish this young lady all the best and future success in all that
she does.

Congrats again


First off ,its sad in that everyone including the coaches involved and the parents know that this is too young. Go ahead ask the coaches. Its also sad in that you are going to get a lot of disappointed coaches and kids .Unless some kid is a freak athlete how do the coaches know what these kids will turn into.In this case I know that this early commitment has raised a lot of eye brows of those familiar with the player as UNC has in the recent past taken a pass on very athletic kids (AA caliber) who were highly regarded by both their peers and other coaches.So yes I think overall its sad that this process is so sped up. But yes congrats to this young lady and I hope it works out for her and her future coaches.


Why is it too young? Girls who are the best athletes in the 9th and 10th grade are most likely to be at the top in 11th and 12th grade as well. College coaches have been watching 8th, 9th, and 10th grade girls for a long time. They know that most of the girls who excel at that age are the ones who will excel in college.

There are no guarantees in life, first round NFL picks don't always work out. Some early commits will become college All Americans some will stop playing. There is no way to make sure that everything will be a good fit. There is no right time. If a college coach likes the player and the player and the parents feel that the school will be a good fit why should they not commit?

Lots of jealous parents out there.

I am very happy for the girl and the parents.

The only thing that is sad are the jealous parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 04:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
East Islip (Long Island for the out of towners) 2019 committed to UNC.

That is sad on so many levels


This has been happening for a number of years, girls committing before ever playing varsity. I hope it works out for each of them no! need to be negative. If this isn't what works for you then go ahead and do what works best for you and your family


High School Lacrosse is not important with regard to the recruiting process. Boys and girls are recruited through their club team. College coaches are able to watch the best players from all over the country compete against each other on the tournament circuit.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 04:54 PM
The process is SAD because they are way to young and this all consuming craziness to verbal robs kids their time of being kids.

I hope this new proposed ncaa guideline on no signings until 11th grade go through. This early signing crap continues to erode this great game. PAL sidelines are a mess at 2nd, 3rd 4th grade because everyone is already playing selfishly looking towards college recruitment. Sideline jealousy in lacrosse is second to none. No other sport has these toxic sidelines.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 05:12 PM
it's sad and wrong because the only one that can lose is the student. Do you think for one minute it matters to a coach if a player doesn't pan out ? Some of these teams have 45 roster spots, so if they miss ,no big deal. a 2019 is closer to being an elementary school student then she is to being a college freshman. If she is a can't miss type of player she probably will remain so, unless she grows, doesn't grow, loses interest, meets a boy, or God forbid gets injured.

I do congratulate this young lady and all the others that share this type of talent, but why rush such a big decision ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 05:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The process is SAD because they are way to young and this all consuming craziness to verbal robs kids their time of being kids.

I hope this new proposed ncaa guideline on no signings until 11th grade go through. This early signing crap continues to erode this great game. PAL sidelines are a mess at 2nd, 3rd 4th grade because everyone is already playing selfishly looking towards college recruitment. Sideline jealousy in lacrosse is second to none. No other sport has these toxic sidelines.


I agree with you in hoping that the proposed NCCA guideline goes through. I have to wonder about it. The ones proposing it are the same ones doing the early recruiting. Kind of like having the fox guard the henhouse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 07:59 PM
Engaging in early recruiting while advocating the newly proposed "September 1 of junior year" rule is not inconsistent at all.

These coaches are hired to win, and in this recruiting environment, if one of the top d1 schools were to hold back until the beginning of junior year on principle, it would suffer a significant competitive disadvantage.

The current reality is that most top recruits are not waiting until junior year to commit, certainly not in this environment, with the exception of the Ivies and a handful of others, and coaches know that.

The proposed rule would change the current situation for the better - a uniform date for all to be guided by. Until then, the overarching principle will be to recruit the best class possible - regardless of recruitment age.

Let's hope the proposal passes - it makes sense and hurts no one in the process. Apparently, 85% of college coaches support it. Every school gets to reach out at the same time, and the recruits will be that much more mature, both physically and emotionally.

I only hope that it becomes effective for a specific class year that has not begun the recruiting process, to avoid confusion.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 08:20 PM
In the meantime my 2020 YJ is trying to be the first one in her group. Doesn't matter that she is trick or treating tomorrow she is clearly mature enough to know what she wants to do for the rest of her life.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 09:19 PM
Please tell me again why it is bad for 9th or 10th grade boy or girl to accept an offer from:

North Carolina, Northwestern, Duke, Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State, USC, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Boston College, Virginia, Georgetown, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Cornell Etc...



Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 09:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please tell me again why it is bad for 9th or 10th grade boy or girl to accept an offer from:

North Carolina, Northwestern, Duke, Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State, USC, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Boston College, Virginia, Georgetown, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Cornell Etc...





Penn State and Syracuse might be great lax schools but not top academic schools
Originally Posted by Anonymous
it's sad and wrong because the only one that can lose is the student. Do you think for one minute it matters to a coach if a player doesn't pan out ? Some of these teams have 45 roster spots, so if they miss ,no big deal. a 2019 is closer to being an elementary school student then she is to being a college freshman. If she is a can't miss type of player she probably will remain so, unless she grows, doesn't grow, loses interest, meets a boy, or God forbid gets injured.

I do congratulate this young lady and all the others that share this type of talent, but why rush such a big decision ?


Agree. What child, because that's what she is, knows how to weigh her options and wisely choose? Face it, even the seniors who choose a college and major very often change their minds.

Plus, IME, a girl's body in 9th grade is not what her body will be in 12th grade. What you see at 13 or 14 is not what you get at 18. There's no guarantee that super-speedy player will have that speed and agility in four years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/30/15 11:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Please tell me again why it is bad for 9th or 10th grade boy or girl to accept an offer from:

North Carolina, Northwestern, Duke, Maryland, Hopkins, Penn State, USC, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Boston College, Virginia, Georgetown, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Cornell Etc...







Penn State and Syracuse might be great lax schools but not top academic schools


I would say all of the schools listed are top academic schools .

You must be another one of the jealous haters that troll this site.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 03:16 AM
then do some homework and quit drinking your directors kool aid
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 12:01 PM
Lots of bitterness, jealousy and hate on here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 10/31/15 08:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lots of bitterness, jealousy and hate on here.


system is totally broken and parents are nuts
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 04:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to her! She is a good player on a below average HS team, so yes, she played varsity as a Middle schooler. According to MSG Varsity she had 19 goals and 12 assists as an 8th grader, however, it should be noted that 6 of those points (5Gs, 1A) were against a far inferior team from Moriches.


Another success story from someone who left the top guns program
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to her! She is a good player on a below average HS team, so yes, she played varsity as a Middle schooler. According to MSG Varsity she had 19 goals and 12 assists as an 8th grader, however, it should be noted that 6 of those points (5Gs, 1A) were against a far inferior team from Moriches.


Another success story from someone who left the top guns program


Or another poaching success by acquiring talent instead of developing it? A 5th grader could coach these girls. Roll out the balls and stay out of the way
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/01/15 09:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to her! She is a good player on a below average HS team, so yes, she played varsity as a Middle schooler. According to MSG Varsity she had 19 goals and 12 assists as an 8th grader, however, it should be noted that 6 of those points (5Gs, 1A) were against a far inferior team from Moriches.


Another success story from someone who left the top guns program


Or another poaching success by acquiring talent instead of developing it? A 5th grader could coach these girls. Roll out the balls and stay out of the way


No offense but kid was moved to second TG team so she left . 2019 YJ team may actually be more successful if coached by a 5th grader .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/02/15 12:00 AM
Verdict is in. Mnd 1. Heroes 2a. YJ 2b. Then the rest. Mnd dads win for most coaching during a game. Embarrassing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/02/15 12:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Verdict is in. Mnd 1. Heroes 2a. YJ 2b. Then the rest. Mnd dads win for most coaching during a game. Embarrassing.


Sorry, I would have to disagree with you about the MnD dads - TLC Red moms and dads have them beat hands down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/02/15 12:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to her! She is a good player on a below average HS team, so yes, she played varsity as a Middle schooler. According to MSG Varsity she had 19 goals and 12 assists as an 8th grader, however, it should be noted that 6 of those points (5Gs, 1A) were against a far inferior team from Moriches.


Another success story from someone who left the top guns program


Or another poaching success by acquiring talent instead of developing it? A 5th grader could coach these girls. Roll out the balls and stay out of the way


No offense but kid was moved to second TG team so she left . 2019 YJ team may actually be more successful if coached by a 5th grader .


I believe you are mistaken on how that went down. She played up in age on the top team, when she was supposed to drop down to her own age group she left. She would have been one of the top girls on black in her own age but walked away. Just as many of the top girls from 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 walked away. I have yet to see that happen going the other way . I find it so sad that I have to come on here to defend some little girl because people make sh@t up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/02/15 12:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to her! She is a good player on a below average HS team, so yes, she played varsity as a Middle schooler. According to MSG Varsity she had 19 goals and 12 assists as an 8th grader, however, it should be noted that 6 of those points (5Gs, 1A) were against a far inferior team from Moriches.


Another success story from someone who left the top guns program


Or another poaching success by acquiring talent instead of developing it? A 5th grader could coach these girls. Roll out the balls and stay out of the way


No offense but kid was moved to second TG team so she left . 2019 YJ team may actually be more successful if coached by a 5th grader .


I believe you are mistaken on how that went down. She played up in age on the top team, when she was supposed to drop down to her own age group she left. She would have been one of the top girls on black in her own age but walked away. Just as many of the top girls from 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 walked away. I have yet to see that happen going the other way . I find it so sad that I have to come on here to defend some little girl because people make sh@t up.


She played on TG 2019 black for one season and then felt the need to leave...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/02/15 03:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Congratulations to her! She is a good player on a below average HS team, so yes, she played varsity as a Middle schooler. According to MSG Varsity she had 19 goals and 12 assists as an 8th grader, however, it should be noted that 6 of those points (5Gs, 1A) were against a far inferior team from Moriches.


Another success story from someone who left the top guns program


Or another poaching success by acquiring talent instead of developing it? A 5th grader could coach these girls. Roll out the balls and stay out of the way


No offense but kid was moved to second TG team so she left . 2019 YJ team may actually be more successful if coached by a 5th grader .


I believe you are mistaken on how that went down. She played up in age on the top team, when she was supposed to drop down to her own age group she left. She would have been one of the top girls on black in her own age but walked away. Just as many of the top girls from 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 walked away. I have yet to see that happen going the other way . I find it so sad that I have to come on here to defend some little girl because people make sh@t up.


She played on TG 2019 black for one season and then felt the need to leave...


Or she was enticed to leave with an offer (aka stolen, aka poached aka hijacked)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/02/15 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Congratulations to her! She is a good player on a below average HS team, so yes, she played varsity as a Middle schooler. According to MSG Varsity she had 19 goals and 12 assists as an 8th grader, however, it should be noted that 6 of those points (5Gs, 1A) were against a far inferior team from Moriches.


Another success story from someone who left the top guns program


Or another poaching success by acquiring talent instead of developing it? A 5th grader could coach these girls. Roll out the balls and stay out of the way


No offense but kid was moved to second TG team so she left . 2019 YJ team may actually be more successful if coached by a 5th grader .


I believe you are mistaken on how that went down. She played up in age on the top team, when she was supposed to drop down to her own age group she left. She would have been one of the top girls on black in her own age but walked away. Just as many of the top girls from 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021 walked away. I have yet to see that happen going the other way . I find it so sad that I have to come on here to defend some little girl because people make sh@t up.


I find it sad you feel the need to defend the truth with made up nonsense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/02/15 03:04 PM
Early verbals and recruiting are terrible for the sport and hopefully it changes soon!

Congrats to this early signing but all it does is motivate the other crazy parents that share the sidelines to now hurry up and get their daughter verbaled asap.

One of the worst places on earth is a travel lacrosse sideline from 8th-11th grade. By end of 11th and 12th the girls are just back to playing for fun and all the college BS is forgotten.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/02/15 03:33 PM
I have taken to sitting by my lonesome at games--far away from the parents...just to get away from the selfishness and petty comments that are spewed all day long during the games..everyone's daughter is a D1 prospect and should get every goal during the games... are right though, no worse place to be ...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/06/15 09:51 AM
Looks like the weather is going to be nice this weekend. It should be a nice weekend for some top level lacrosse. Quite a few teams will be heading down the turnpike to MD. The girls should represent well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/06/15 07:59 PM
How is TG black this fall?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/07/15 05:58 AM
Dope
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/09/15 12:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is TG black this fall?


Hard to tell this weekend. Too early to tell.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/09/15 01:08 PM
Went 2-2 at the Ches Invitational.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/09/15 01:45 PM
How did YJ Blue do against M&D Black on Saturday at the prime time?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/09/15 03:17 PM
Capital 2019 beat TG 2019 in a fairly close game on Saturday--good level of skill all around.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/09/15 05:22 PM
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Capital 2019 beat TG 2019 in a fairly close game on Saturday--good level of skill all around.

Who did they beat and who else did they lose to? Did they get to see MnD or Skywalkers?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/09/15 06:01 PM
Capital did not lose in 6 games over weekend--beat TG, TLC (very strong team) Phantastix out of Philly (always strong), Team 180 from CO and 2 others....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/09/15 06:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Capital did not lose in 6 games over weekend--beat TG, TLC (very strong team) Phantastix out of Philly (always strong), Team 180 from CO and 2 others....


MnD, Heros, Sky Walkers or YJ? Any of those? What about MDU, or Integrity? That Capital/Stars 2019 team is good, just trying to get a gauge of where they are this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/09/15 07:56 PM
I would not refer to Capital as a "Stars" team since 2019 Capital has a number of players who did not play on Stars. They have beaten Sky Walkers twice this fall but have yet to play the others....best team thye have played to date is TLC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/09/15 10:12 PM
How did MnD and Heros do this weekend? The Chesapeake Invitation has only some scores listed and the Prime Time didn't have any on their website.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/10/15 12:04 AM
Md United was NOT INVITED, at any age level, to the Chesapeake Invitational.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/10/15 12:28 AM
Both went 4-0
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/10/15 12:38 AM
Thanks! Not a surprise, they both went undefeated as both are great teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/11/15 01:22 AM
Anyone know anything about Salt City? We are playing their 2019 this weekend.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/11/15 03:40 AM
they are pretty solid team from the Syracuse area.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/11/15 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone know anything about Salt City? We are playing their 2019 this weekend.


How about Mass Elite 2019s ... Playing them at Lax for the Cure. They r in top bracket with us. Never played them. Assume they r from Massachusetts. Any good?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 02:01 AM
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 02:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 02:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


What town is she from? Or, where can we find this info?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 03:56 AM
Daddy should be bragging good for him. That said wth is going on , these kids are way to young . Not this kid as I don't know who it is but I got to watch a prior 2019 recruit to arguably the most sort after school and it was comical . I get sometimes college coaches see things in a player that nobody else does but when you are recruiting 14 y. o. Kids one would think the kid would be arguably one of the better players on the field , athletic , or at least not argue w refs . Good luck w that one .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 04:03 AM
Three or four heros committed already. Top schools obviously.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 04:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...


Sorry Dad - way too young.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 10:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...


I'll second that! I would be bragging too, if I were pretty well done with the recruiting process. Definitely jealous, probably has not gotten a single sniff yet. Any info on which school the YJ girl has committed to?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 10:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...


Sorry Dad - way too young.


Yet all the top college coaches disagree with you. All of them actively recruit the incoming 9th graders. I guess you know more than all the best coaches in the country? You should maybe quit your day job and take your armchair recruiting gig to the next level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 12:51 PM
This commit scored 9 goals and had 3 assists as an 8th grader for Rocky Point last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 01:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...


I'll second that! I would be bragging too, if I were pretty well done with the recruiting process. Definitely jealous, probably has not gotten a single sniff yet. Any info on which school the YJ girl has committed to?


the sport is broken and the sidelines are toxic
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 01:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...


Sorry Dad - way too young.


Yet all the top college coaches disagree with you. All of them actively recruit the incoming 9th graders. I guess you know more than all the best coaches in the country? You should maybe quit your day job and take your armchair recruiting gig to the next level.


Parents hold the cards yet feel the need to rush its insane. I guess if you don't commit your child in 9th grade you have failed
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 01:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...


Sorry Dad - way too young.


Yet all the top college coaches disagree with you. All of them actively recruit the incoming 9th graders. I guess you know more than all the best coaches in the country? You should maybe quit your day job and take your armchair recruiting gig to the next level.


And if Northwestern or whichever school is their top "dream school" comes calling? I also think 9th grade is young - but, I also don't know their situation. I also will not openly and loudly preach against early recruiting because I do not want to be labeled as a hypocrite on the off chance that certain schools do show up at our door. Frankly - how can you say that someone is making an uninformed decision if they choose a North Carolina or a Duke as their college?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 01:31 PM
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Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


Congratulations to the young lady and her parents.

It is unfortunate that there are so many jealous bitter people out there. It must be really tough on you when college coaches think that other players are better than your daughter.

To all of the parents who have unrealistic views of their kids abilities. Stop trying to come up with excuses as to why the offers are not rolling in. There is one reason a college coach does not make an offer. That reason is: "the coach does not think your daughter is better than the other players that the coach has watched". You can convince yourself that there are other reasons but there is only one. You can listen to the coach tell you "we have to wait", "we need to see her play again", "we need to see her grades and test scores", "we are taking our time" etc.. it is all BS. Coaches know what they like and when they see it and they will make an offer. The best coaches at the top programs are not afraid to pull the trigger if they like the player. Just be thankful the top players can only accept one offer. Also, there are great players who may not have the grades for every school that likes them. Keep the grades up and you will have more opportunities after the top tier kids are all committed. We are going through it now, mine is not a top tier player but we know that there will be more opportunity after the top kids commit.

Stop with the jealousy and hate. Be happy for the kids that have what it takes to be an early commit. Be hopeful and proud of your own. If they continue to work hard in the classroom and on the field things will work out.

Stop the hate and try to be as realistic as possible about your own kids ability.


Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 01:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...


I'll second that! I would be bragging too, if I were pretty well done with the recruiting process. Definitely jealous, probably has not gotten a single sniff yet. Any info on which school the YJ girl has committed to?


Maryland
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 02:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...


I'll second that! I would be bragging too, if I were pretty well done with the recruiting process. Definitely jealous, probably has not gotten a single sniff yet. Any info on which school the YJ girl has committed to?


Maryland


I think that makes it 3 for Maryland so far. One from MnD, Heros and YJ.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 05:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...


I'll second that! I would be bragging too, if I were pretty well done with the recruiting process. Definitely jealous, probably has not gotten a single sniff yet. Any info on which school the YJ girl has committed to?


the sport is broken and the sidelines are toxic


That is your experience and too bad for you and others that have had similar experiences. This however could not be any further from the experience I have had with my girls, all good stuff, and I know many others who feel the same as I do. Misery finds misery.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 07:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...


I'll second that! I would be bragging too, if I were pretty well done with the recruiting process. Definitely jealous, probably has not gotten a single sniff yet. Any info on which school the YJ girl has committed to?


the sport is broken and the sidelines are toxic


That is your experience and too bad for you and others that have had similar experiences. This however could not be any further from the experience I have had with my girls, all good stuff, and I know many others who feel the same as I do. Misery finds misery.


My daughter is a junior recruited by a mid-ranked D1 program with a very good academic reputation. She experienced some highs and lows in the recruiting process, but in the end is very happy with where she is going, the opportunity she will have there and the athletic money she's receiving. We've also met some really great people and made some good friends through lacrosse. We also met a bad apple or two, but were able to not let that get in the way of her love for playing lacrosse. I have to say that although lacrosse is a team sport, unlike almost every other team sport, it has some aspects that really breed a "me first" mentality which is reflected by the behavior on the sidelines. Notice I didn't say on the field - because that's not where the problem is.

Enjoy the next few years because they really do go by much too quickly.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another YJ 2019 committed today - Daddy will be bragging at the office tomorrow.


And your jealousy is shining through. Be happy for the girl, and her family. Dreams coming true...


I'll second that! I would be bragging too, if I were pretty well done with the recruiting process. Definitely jealous, probably has not gotten a single sniff yet. Any info on which school the YJ girl has committed to?


the sport is broken and the sidelines are toxic


That is your experience and too bad for you and others that have had similar experiences. This however could not be any further from the experience I have had with my girls, all good stuff, and I know many others who feel the same as I do. Misery finds misery.


My daughter is a junior recruited by a mid-ranked D1 program with a very good academic reputation. She experienced some highs and lows in the recruiting process, but in the end is very happy with where she is going, the opportunity she will have there and the athletic money she's receiving. We've also met some really great people and made some good friends through lacrosse. We also met a bad apple or two, but were able to not let that get in the way of her love for playing lacrosse. I have to say that although lacrosse is a team sport, unlike almost every other team sport, it has some aspects that really breed a "me first" mentality which is reflected by the behavior on the sidelines. Notice I didn't say on the field - because that's not where the problem is.

Enjoy the next few years because they really do go by much too quickly.


Well said and congratulations. Anyone who objectively doesn't say there is a me first attitude in the sport isn't paying attention.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 09:31 PM

I'll second that! I would be bragging too, if I were pretty well done with the recruiting process. Definitely jealous, probably has not gotten a single sniff yet. Any info on which school the YJ girl has committed to? [/quote]

the sport is broken and the sidelines are toxic [/quote]

That is your experience and too bad for you and others that have had similar experiences. This however could not be any further from the experience I have had with my girls, all good stuff, and I know many others who feel the same as I do. Misery finds misery.[/quote]

My daughter is a junior recruited by a mid-ranked D1 program with a very good academic reputation. She experienced some highs and lows in the recruiting process, but in the end is very happy with where she is going, the opportunity she will have there and the athletic money she's receiving. We've also met some really great people and made some good friends through lacrosse. We also met a bad apple or two, but were able to not let that get in the way of her love for playing lacrosse. I have to say that although lacrosse is a team sport, unlike almost every other team sport, it has some aspects that really breed a "me first" mentality which is reflected by the behavior on the sidelines. Notice I didn't say on the field - because that's not where the problem is.

Enjoy the next few years because they really do go by much too quickly. [/quote]

Well said and congratulations. Anyone who objectively doesn't say there is a me first attitude in the sport isn't paying attention. [/quote]

I feel that I am closer to my daughter than I would have been had it not been for the countless trips up and down the turnpike. I would not have met some "lifetime" friends after the various nights of bonding at the hotel bars. And let's not forget the future friends that we will be running into at our daughter's future colleges with a simple introduction of - "Hey, you look familiar - didn't your daughter play for (club name) at Lax For the Cure, Lax Inception or where ever." Those are just two of the positives that I am embracing and bringing up. There are a lot of positives, why focus only on the negatives.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/12/15 09:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'll second that! I would be bragging too, if I were pretty well done with the recruiting process. Definitely jealous, probably has not gotten a single sniff yet. Any info on which school the YJ girl has committed to?


the sport is broken and the sidelines are toxic [/quote]

That is your experience and too bad for you and others that have had similar experiences. This however could not be any further from the experience I have had with my girls, all good stuff, and I know many others who feel the same as I do. Misery finds misery.[/quote]

My daughter is a junior recruited by a mid-ranked D1 program with a very good academic reputation. She experienced some highs and lows in the recruiting process, but in the end is very happy with where she is going, the opportunity she will have there and the athletic money she's receiving. We've also met some really great people and made some good friends through lacrosse. We also met a bad apple or two, but were able to not let that get in the way of her love for playing lacrosse. I have to say that although lacrosse is a team sport, unlike almost every other team sport, it has some aspects that really breed a "me first" mentality which is reflected by the behavior on the sidelines. Notice I didn't say on the field - because that's not where the problem is.

Enjoy the next few years because they really do go by much too quickly. [/quote]

Well said and congratulations. Anyone who objectively doesn't say there is a me first attitude in the sport isn't paying attention. [/quote]

I feel that I am closer to my daughter than I would have been had it not been for the countless trips up and down the turnpike. I would not have met some "lifetime" friends after the various nights of bonding at the hotel bars. And let's not forget the future friends that we will be running into at our daughter's future colleges with a simple introduction of - "Hey, you look familiar - didn't your daughter play for (club name) at Lax For the Cure, Lax Inception or where ever." Those are just two of the positives that I am embracing and bringing up. There are a lot of positives, why focus only on the negatives. [/quote]

I couldn't agree with you more! We've made memories that will last forever. Another thing I love is when my daughter walks off the field at a tournament chatting with an opposing player - who she met at a camp or a clinic. She's met literally befriended a hundred or more girls she wouldn't have know otherwise.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/14/15 02:35 PM
Heros 9. Mnd 6
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/15/15 10:37 PM
How did YJ 2019s do at Lax For the Cure yesterday?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 12:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ 2019s do at Lax For the Cure yesterday?


Got the sideline report from several parents. They are living up to their reputation of being the worst YJ top team and the worst coached.Team has now become the worst sort of ball hogs with some of their so called top players picking up charges left and right. The good news is I hear they have a new player coach who tells the kids what position they can play and who is allowed on the draw circle .My guess is that team will not make it past this upcoming summer season as soon as kids commit they will abandon ship unless of course you are a coaches kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ 2019s do at Lax For the Cure yesterday?


Got the sideline report from several parents. They are living up to their reputation of being the worst YJ top team and the worst coached.Team has now become the worst sort of ball hogs with some of their so called top players picking up charges left and right. The good news is I hear they have a new player coach who tells the kids what position they can play and who is allowed on the draw circle .My guess is that team will not make it past this upcoming summer season as soon as kids commit they will abandon ship unless of course you are a coaches kid.


This sounds like a parent w a daughter on the team who must not be very good. Stop whining. They seemed to hold their own at the G8 this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 02:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ 2019s do at Lax For the Cure yesterday?


Got the sideline report from several parents. They are living up to their reputation of being the worst YJ top team and the worst coached.Team has now become the worst sort of ball hogs with some of their so called top players picking up charges left and right. The good news is I hear they have a new player coach who tells the kids what position they can play and who is allowed on the draw circle .My guess is that team will not make it past this upcoming summer season as soon as kids commit they will abandon ship unless of course you are a coaches kid.


This sounds like a parent w a daughter on the team who must not be very good. Stop whining. They seemed to hold their own at the G8 this summer.


Is this the YJ team from last summer? Did they lose any players? There is a lot of chatter about TG losing players - where did they end up? There is a lot of talk about no MD teams at Lax4Cure - is that really true? I was not paying attention.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 02:20 AM
Steps 2019 Blue beat YJ 2019 Blue and TG Black today at the Fall Face Off.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 02:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Steps 2019 Blue beat YJ 2019 Blue and TG Black today at the Fall Face Off.


That is surprising, because we played Steps yesterday and didn't think they were very good. Their parents thought they were, and weren't very happy that they didn't win all their games. Funny.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 12:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ 2019s do at Lax For the Cure yesterday?


Got the sideline report from several parents. They are living up to their reputation of being the worst YJ top team and the worst coached.Team has now become the worst sort of ball hogs with some of their so called top players picking up charges left and right. The good news is I hear they have a new player coach who tells the kids what position they can play and who is allowed on the draw circle .My guess is that team will not make it past this upcoming summer season as soon as kids commit they will abandon ship unless of course you are a coaches kid.


I didn't need a report as I was at the games. It appears as if your jealousy is getting the better of you ( oh that's right it was a sideline report from other parents) I would suggest you take ownership of your friend, relative, sibling or daughter and pass the message along that coaches don't care who your Father,Mother Sister or Brother is they want players not spectators. You see College coaches make their living based upon players performance. So time to pull on your big girl panties and show up. Enough excuses !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 12:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ 2019s do at Lax For the Cure yesterday?


Got the sideline report from several parents. They are living up to their reputation of being the worst YJ top team and the worst coached.Team has now become the worst sort of ball hogs with some of their so called top players picking up charges left and right. The good news is I hear they have a new player coach who tells the kids what position they can play and who is allowed on the draw circle .My guess is that team will not make it past this upcoming summer season as soon as kids commit they will abandon ship unless of course you are a coaches kid.


I didn't need a report as I was at the games. It appears as if your jealousy is getting the better of you ( oh that's right it was a sideline report from other parents) I would suggest you take ownership of your friend, relative, sibling or daughter and pass the message along that coaches don't care who your Father,Mother Sister or Brother is they want players not spectators. You see College coaches make their living based upon players performance. So time to pull on your big girl panties and show up. Enough excuses !


Does that mean that they got beat on as a team, but some girls impressed the coaches watching?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 01:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ 2019s do at Lax For the Cure yesterday?


Got the sideline report from several parents. They are living up to their reputation of being the worst YJ top team and the worst coached.Team has now become the worst sort of ball hogs with some of their so called top players picking up charges left and right. The good news is I hear they have a new player coach who tells the kids what position they can play and who is allowed on the draw circle .My guess is that team will not make it past this upcoming summer season as soon as kids commit they will abandon ship unless of course you are a coaches kid.


I didn't need a report as I was at the games. It appears as if your jealousy is getting the better of you ( oh that's right it was a sideline report from other parents) I would suggest you take ownership of your friend, relative, sibling or daughter and pass the message along that coaches don't care who your Father,Mother Sister or Brother is they want players not spectators. You see College coaches make their living based upon players performance. So time to pull on your big girl panties and show up. Enough excuses !


What???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ 2019s do at Lax For the Cure yesterday?


Got the sideline report from several parents. They are living up to their reputation of being the worst YJ top team and the worst coached.Team has now become the worst sort of ball hogs with some of their so called top players picking up charges left and right. The good news is I hear they have a new player coach who tells the kids what position they can play and who is allowed on the draw circle .My guess is that team will not make it past this upcoming summer season as soon as kids commit they will abandon ship unless of course you are a coaches kid.


I didn't need a report as I was at the games. It appears as if your jealousy is getting the better of you ( oh that's right it was a sideline report from other parents) I would suggest you take ownership of your friend, relative, sibling or daughter and pass the message along that coaches don't care who your Father,Mother Sister or Brother is they want players not spectators. You see College coaches make their living based upon players performance. So time to pull on your big girl panties and show up. Enough excuses !


Wow. Easy there coach...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ 2019s do at Lax For the Cure yesterday?


Got the sideline report from several parents. They are living up to their reputation of being the worst YJ top team and the worst coached.Team has now become the worst sort of ball hogs with some of their so called top players picking up charges left and right. The good news is I hear they have a new player coach who tells the kids what position they can play and who is allowed on the draw circle .My guess is that team will not make it past this upcoming summer season as soon as kids commit they will abandon ship unless of course you are a coaches kid.


Not a Coach, but I was watching with a couple of College coaches and they agreed with my thoughts. Reputation will get you a look, but performance will get you an offer !

I didn't need a report as I was at the games. It appears as if your jealousy is getting the better of you ( oh that's right it was a sideline report from other parents) I would suggest you take ownership of your friend, relative, sibling or daughter and pass the message along that coaches don't care who your Father,Mother Sister or Brother is they want players not spectators. You see College coaches make their living based upon players performance. So time to pull on your big girl panties and show up. Enough excuses !


Wow. Easy there coach...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 04:00 PM
this sounds spot on they looked lifeless. there we no college coaches scouting this game. were the top players there or playing soccer / basketball???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 04:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Steps 2019 Blue beat YJ 2019 Blue and TG Black today at the Fall Face Off.


And STEPS lost to T3 earlier..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 04:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ 2019s do at Lax For the Cure yesterday?


Got the sideline report from several parents. They are living up to their reputation of being the worst YJ top team and the worst coached.Team has now become the worst sort of ball hogs with some of their so called top players picking up charges left and right. The good news is I hear they have a new player coach who tells the kids what position they can play and who is allowed on the draw circle .My guess is that team will not make it past this upcoming summer season as soon as kids commit they will abandon ship unless of course you are a coaches kid.


This sounds like a parent w a daughter on the team who must not be very good. Stop whining. They seemed to hold their own at the G8 this summer.


Actually this seems to prove my point YJ top teams in the past were really not content to "hold their own". I guess they can now change the mantra from fear the bee to "we hold our own".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 04:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How did YJ 2019s do at Lax For the Cure yesterday?


Got the sideline report from several parents. They are living up to their reputation of being the worst YJ top team and the worst coached.Team has now become the worst sort of ball hogs with some of their so called top players picking up charges left and right. The good news is I hear they have a new player coach who tells the kids what position they can play and who is allowed on the draw circle .My guess is that team will not make it past this upcoming summer season as soon as kids commit they will abandon ship unless of course you are a coaches kid.


I didn't need a report as I was at the games. It appears as if your jealousy is getting the better of you ( oh that's right it was a sideline report from other parents) I would suggest you take ownership of your friend, relative, sibling or daughter and pass the message along that coaches don't care who your Father,Mother Sister or Brother is they want players not spectators. You see College coaches make their living based upon players performance. So time to pull on your big girl panties and show up. Enough excuses !


Trying to decipher exactly what you are trying to say, the only thing I get out of it is you have a lot of big girl panties( my guess size xxxl) around the house. On a serious note you are just ignorant. Not all coaches are looking for the same type player, yes some want the ball hog kid who takes it to goal everytime and gets 3 goals , 3 turnovers and 2 charges. Some want the kid who keeps her head up and plays the right way. What most of you fail to realize is that most if not all of these kids will end up at a good school so all of you need to relax, that includes the ball hog kids parents telling them go to goal every time and the parents complaining about ball hog kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 05:13 PM
but to someone's point earlier YJ blue smoked these girls last summer at G8 by double digit goals. what has happened in the space of a few months? cant start losing to 2nd and 3rd tier teams and keep the same reputation and brand people are paying for right??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
but to someone's point earlier YJ blue smoked these girls last summer at G8 by double digit goals. what has happened in the space of a few months? cant start losing to 2nd and 3rd tier teams and keep the same reputation and brand people are paying for right??


You do realize it's fall right? Not a full team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
but to someone's point earlier YJ blue smoked these girls last summer at G8 by double digit goals. what has happened in the space of a few months? cant start losing to 2nd and 3rd tier teams and keep the same reputation and brand people are paying for right??

Well, easy there - they did not exactly "smoke" everybody. They were 3-2, losing to MnD and Heros. The only ones who did any "smoking" was MnD. The closest they got to double digits was against Steps and that's not really much to brag about. So, in reality - the drop off has not been as big as people are making it out to be after all.
If they can stick to playing just the LI and NJ teams - maybe they can build up their brand again.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 05:43 PM
that's what I was wondering. I have a 2023 so I am pretty green with all this stuff. I wanted to get a look at the 19's(and the UNC commit in particular) and was stunned to see them playing like that. so they were missing some muscle from the summer team? that's a relief.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
but to someone's point earlier YJ blue smoked these girls last summer at G8 by double digit goals. what has happened in the space of a few months? cant start losing to 2nd and 3rd tier teams and keep the same reputation and brand people are paying for right??


You do realize it's fall right? Not a full team.


Then why bother showing up? Why spend the money on tolls, gas and hotels? If it's not a full team, why do some get a pass and others don't? Has anyone asked those questions? Why does it seem like all the MD teams are at full strength and bringing "it"?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
but to someone's point earlier YJ blue smoked these girls last summer at G8 by double digit goals. what has happened in the space of a few months? cant start losing to 2nd and 3rd tier teams and keep the same reputation and brand people are paying for right??


You do realize it's fall right? Not a full team.


Be careful. The Maryland folks don't like to hear that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 05:47 PM
This is silly- was at the steps/yj blue game. Yj did not play well and lost by 1 to steps. Congrats to steps. Yj finished strong, beating a very good T3 elite team by a whole bunch after that team beat steps by 3 earlier in the day. Congrats to all the girls- the great majority of them will do fine if they want to play at the next level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
that's what I was wondering. I have a 2023 so I am pretty green with all this stuff. I wanted to get a look at the 19's(and the UNC commit in particular) and was stunned to see them playing like that. so they were missing some muscle from the summer team? that's a relief.


all 3 of their committed players were on there..it was a full team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 06:01 PM
don't hit the panic button okay. there were at least 3 top girls that weren't there for the 19's. I know it seems bizarre to lose to a NJ team but next summer they will be right back under the thumb of YJ blue. bet the mortgage on it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 06:05 PM
Two out of the 3 "commits" were there (UNC and MD) ... the YJ bench was full and had at least 2 full lines ... No excuses. They lost the game. There is a lot more parity in the "A" bracket ... anything can happen on any given day. Yesterday, Steps prevailed and good for them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 06:10 PM
^^ regarding the banter posted above in the last day or so, don't forget as these girls enter the "recruiting age" these tournaments become less and less about wins and more about showcasing talent.. Everyone should be getting equal playing time, goalies switching at half etc.. Regardless of score.
As someone who has gone through it once and now on my second trip through, no one but the parents care who wins and loses. At some showcases there isnít even a scoreboard.. But the parents are keeping score.
Hopefully everyone had an opportunity to showcase their individual talent and left the field injury free.. And maybe an email will get forwarded to you from the club telling you a college coach reached out..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 06:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
but to someone's point earlier YJ blue smoked these girls last summer at G8 by double digit goals. what has happened in the space of a few months? cant start losing to 2nd and 3rd tier teams and keep the same reputation and brand people are paying for right??


You do realize it's fall right? Not a full team.


here we go w this nonsense again ... they had their top players there ... Maryland commit UNC commit etc. Stop it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 06:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
but to someone's point earlier YJ blue smoked these girls last summer at G8 by double digit goals. what has happened in the space of a few months? cant start losing to 2nd and 3rd tier teams and keep the same reputation and brand people are paying for right??


You do realize it's fall right? Not a full team.


Be careful. The Maryland folks don't like to hear that.


I posted it and I am a MD parent. People get too wrapped up in winning and losing these games. Once you get to high school, there aren't even playoffs in most tournaments so who cares who wins. The point is to be seen by college coaches. It's a shame that lacrosse ceases to be really fun for the girls after 8th grade, but in the current landscape, that's the truth. Thankful that my daughter is a 2021 and still have a couple years left before the insanity starts. Hopefully the rule is changed before then.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 06:32 PM
Healthy girls, Great weather, fun couple of weekends
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
this sounds spot on they looked lifeless. there we no college coaches scouting this game. were the top players there or playing soccer / basketball???


There were plenty of college coaches at the Cure on Saturday. UNC, Maryland, Northwestern, Penn State, Dartmouth, Harvard, Vanderbilt, USC and on and on. All of those mentioned, plus others, watched the top 2019 bracket all day. YJ, Mass Elite, Steps etc. I'm sure all were missing a player or two but generally I think they had a majority of their better players. I know our team had a couple varsity soccer players that could not attend. The results indicate a lot of parity w these teams. And yes there are a couple Maryland teams at this age group that are a couple goals better on average. So what. The vast majority of the girls on these teams will be playing D1 if they want(or choose D2, D3). The games were competitive and seemed like fun, and the college coaches watched some really good players do their thing. Seemed all good to me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 06:34 PM
I guess I better enjoy the next few seasons when teamwork, competition, and games that mean something are still the deal. is it still any fun to watch when all the players / parents care about is trying to get noticed by the people with the clipboards?? thanks for the warning..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
but to someone's point earlier YJ blue smoked these girls last summer at G8 by double digit goals. what has happened in the space of a few months? cant start losing to 2nd and 3rd tier teams and keep the same reputation and brand people are paying for right??


You do realize it's fall right? Not a full team.


here we go w this nonsense again ... they had their top players there ... Maryland commit UNC commit etc. Stop it.


Say what you want but those committed kids are not the top of the food chain on this YJ team,I am sure they are good players and all and have no idea if there best players were there but to assume that they are the best players on that team because they committed early is wrong
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 06:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
but to someone's point earlier YJ blue smoked these girls last summer at G8 by double digit goals. what has happened in the space of a few months? cant start losing to 2nd and 3rd tier teams and keep the same reputation and brand people are paying for right??


You do realize it's fall right? Not a full team.


here we go w this nonsense again ... they had their top players there ... Maryland commit UNC commit etc. Stop it.


Say what you want but those committed kids are not the top of the food chain on this YJ team,I am sure they are good players and all and have no idea if there best players were there but to assume that they are the best players on that team because they committed early is wrong


Wait. So you know who are the best players and who are not. You actually don't know if the committed players are good but think they must be. You don't actually know who was at the games and who wasn't. But somehow you feel like you can comment on this? Lets just assume that each team was missing one or two players that would have made some difference. Therefore the outcomes/competition was about what it would be. And it was pretty even. Rather than worry that it somehow makes YJ look bad, lets celebrate that girl's lax is becoming competitive across a broader region and that bodes well for the sport.

And to the post saying that winning and losing doesn't matter and only the parents care about that, I disagree. The girls care quite a bit, or at least the competitive ones do. But that doesn't mean shortening benches etc. Winning with your whole team playing is even more satisfying. I love watching these young women compete and work together for a common goal. The best teams let that happen. So if this 2019 YJ plays everyone equally, that is to be commended, not ridiculed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 07:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
^^ regarding the banter posted above in the last day or so, don't forget as these girls enter the "recruiting age" these tournaments become less and less about wins and more about showcasing talent.. Everyone should be getting equal playing time, goalies switching at half etc.. Regardless of score.
As someone who has gone through it once and now on my second trip through, no one but the parents care who wins and loses. At some showcases there isnít even a scoreboard.. But the parents are keeping score.
Hopefully everyone had an opportunity to showcase their individual talent and left the field injury free.. And maybe an email will get forwarded to you from the club telling you a college coach reached out..


Agreed...You hope games are evenly matched so all the girls (A,M,D, G) are all getting touches and getting looks by the coaches. Winning is fun but playing in competitive games is a lot better for all involved
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 07:59 PM
"And to the post saying that winning and losing doesn't matter and only the parents care about that, I disagree. The girls care quite a bit, or at least the competitive ones do."

In the moment the girls want to do their best and win.. ask them 5 minutes later and they probably won't remember the score.

As this recruiting train rolls on, you'll see girls from different states hugging it out on the field before and after games as they become friends with other players at College camps, clinics, prospect days, Under Armor Brine etc.
M&D, YJ, Stars, Steps all start to lose meaning as college allegiances build.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 08:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"And to the post saying that winning and losing doesn't matter and only the parents care about that, I disagree. The girls care quite a bit, or at least the competitive ones do."

In the moment the girls want to do their best and win.. ask them 5 minutes later and they probably won't remember the score.

As this recruiting train rolls on, you'll see girls from different states hugging it out on the field before and after games as they become friends with other players at College camps, clinics, prospect days, Under Armor Brine etc.
M&D, YJ, Stars, Steps all start to lose meaning as college allegiances build.


Don't disagree with any of that except they know who won and lost. And while they move on from it, as they should, they still care. I will agree that they don't care in the same way the wacko parents do, but in the way any competitors do. To say otherwise is to not give them enough credit. In a way, it's almost sexist. Because I doubt you would say that about the boys. The girls just show it differently. You see NFL players "hugging it out" on the field before and after games. I doubt you would say they are uncompetitive or don't care about the outcome. I think you are mixing several things up. But ultimately, if they are all having fun and reaching their personal goals, it's all good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 09:07 PM
I've been involved with the lax recruiting craziness for several years but my little laxer just signed her NLI last week so hopefully I'm done. But, I will offer a little perspective if you will allow me.
For my daughter's club team, I was the person that gave out the flyers to the college coaches. I've done it since the fall of 2013, and I've met and talked to over 100 coaches. I've asked about 100 of them if they knew the score of the game they were watching, because with my duties I couldn't keep track or see the little scores across the field. 99.99% did not know the score. 99.99% of the parents did. The coaches are there to watch the girls they are recruiting, not really the game as a whole. I'm sure they get a "feel" for the score or who is ahead, but it's mostly irrelevant to them. For the most part, parents "get it", and know that the important thing is how the girls play and perform. There are some club's parents out there that seem to live and die with the team's successes or failures (YJ), like it's the superbowl. Everyone wants to win, but as the girls get into the recruiting zone, winning and losing becomes a LOT less important and on-field performance takes precedent (except to YJ).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 09:56 PM
Spoken as a true loser
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 10:15 PM
Doesn't even sound like sports. Sounds like a talent show or a body building contest. But if your daughter is enjoying that's what counts ultimately.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 10:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've been involved with the lax recruiting craziness for several years but my little laxer just signed her NLI last week so hopefully I'm done. But, I will offer a little perspective if you will allow me.
For my daughter's club team, I was the person that gave out the flyers to the college coaches. I've done it since the fall of 2013, and I've met and talked to over 100 coaches. I've asked about 100 of them if they knew the score of the game they were watching, because with my duties I couldn't keep track or see the little scores across the field. 99.99% did not know the score. 99.99% of the parents did. The coaches are there to watch the girls they are recruiting, not really the game as a whole. I'm sure they get a "feel" for the score or who is ahead, but it's mostly irrelevant to them. For the most part, parents "get it", and know that the important thing is how the girls play and perform. There are some club's parents out there that seem to live and die with the team's successes or failures (YJ), like it's the superbowl. Everyone wants to win, but as the girls get into the recruiting zone, winning and losing becomes a LOT less important and on-field performance takes precedent (except to YJ).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've been involved with the lax recruiting craziness for several years but my little laxer just signed her NLI last week so hopefully I'm done. But, I will offer a little perspective if you will allow me.
For my daughter's club team, I was the person that gave out the flyers to the college coaches. I've done it since the fall of 2013, and I've met and talked to over 100 coaches. I've asked about 100 of them if they knew the score of the game they were watching, because with my duties I couldn't keep track or see the little scores across the field. 99.99% did not know the score. 99.99% of the parents did. The coaches are there to watch the girls they are recruiting, not really the game as a whole. I'm sure they get a "feel" for the score or who is ahead, but it's mostly irrelevant to them. For the most part, parents "get it", and know that the important thing is how the girls play and perform. There are some club's parents out there that seem to live and die with the team's successes or failures (YJ), like it's the superbowl. Everyone wants to win, but as the girls get into the recruiting zone, winning and losing becomes a LOT less important and on-field performance takes precedent (except to YJ).


You are once again mixing issues up. The fact that college coaches don't care what the score is is irrelelavent. That is true in all sports. They r recruiting individuals, not teams. So what? Therefore the players shouldn't care about the outcome? That's ridiculous. And quite frankly, women's lax is a little immature in its evaluation technique btw. I would advise coaches to think a little bit about the situations in games. Because ultimately they will make better recruiting decisions on kids if they are in the competitive context of a game. Which girl wants to take the game winning shot for example? Who makes the key plays in the key moments? It's what everyone missed w Tom Brady for example. Maybe they should start caring about the context of the game? Another discussion I guess.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 10:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've been involved with the lax recruiting craziness for several years but my little laxer just signed her NLI last week so hopefully I'm done. But, I will offer a little perspective if you will allow me.
For my daughter's club team, I was the person that gave out the flyers to the college coaches. I've done it since the fall of 2013, and I've met and talked to over 100 coaches. I've asked about 100 of them if they knew the score of the game they were watching, because with my duties I couldn't keep track or see the little scores across the field. 99.99% did not know the score. 99.99% of the parents did. The coaches are there to watch the girls they are recruiting, not really the game as a whole. I'm sure they get a "feel" for the score or who is ahead, but it's mostly irrelevant to them. For the most part, parents "get it", and know that the important thing is how the girls play and perform. There are some club's parents out there that seem to live and die with the team's successes or failures (YJ), like it's the superbowl. Everyone wants to win, but as the girls get into the recruiting zone, winning and losing becomes a LOT less important and on-field performance takes precedent (except to YJ).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've been involved with the lax recruiting craziness for several years but my little laxer just signed her NLI last week so hopefully I'm done. But, I will offer a little perspective if you will allow me.
For my daughter's club team, I was the person that gave out the flyers to the college coaches. I've done it since the fall of 2013, and I've met and talked to over 100 coaches. I've asked about 100 of them if they knew the score of the game they were watching, because with my duties I couldn't keep track or see the little scores across the field. 99.99% did not know the score. 99.99% of the parents did. The coaches are there to watch the girls they are recruiting, not really the game as a whole. I'm sure they get a "feel" for the score or who is ahead, but it's mostly irrelevant to them. For the most part, parents "get it", and know that the important thing is how the girls play and perform. There are some club's parents out there that seem to live and die with the team's successes or failures (YJ), like it's the superbowl. Everyone wants to win, but as the girls get into the recruiting zone, winning and losing becomes a LOT less important and on-field performance takes precedent (except to YJ).


You are once again mixing issues up. The fact that college coaches don't care what the score is is irrelelavent. That is true in all sports. They r recruiting individuals, not teams. So what? Therefore the players shouldn't care about the outcome? That's ridiculous. And quite frankly, women's lax is a little immature in its evaluation technique btw. I would advise coaches to think a little bit about the situations in games. Because ultimately they will make better recruiting decisions on kids if they are in the competitive context of a game. Which girl wants to take the game winning shot for example? Who makes the key plays in the key moments? It's what everyone missed w Tom Brady for example. Maybe they should start caring about the context of the game? Another discussion I guess.


I'm sure college coaches appreciate your recommendation on what they should be looking for.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/16/15 11:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've been involved with the lax recruiting craziness for several years but my little laxer just signed her NLI last week so hopefully I'm done. But, I will offer a little perspective if you will allow me.
For my daughter's club team, I was the person that gave out the flyers to the college coaches. I've done it since the fall of 2013, and I've met and talked to over 100 coaches. I've asked about 100 of them if they knew the score of the game they were watching, because with my duties I couldn't keep track or see the little scores across the field. 99.99% did not know the score. 99.99% of the parents did. The coaches are there to watch the girls they are recruiting, not really the game as a whole. I'm sure they get a "feel" for the score or who is ahead, but it's mostly irrelevant to them. For the most part, parents "get it", and know that the important thing is how the girls play and perform. There are some club's parents out there that seem to live and die with the team's successes or failures (YJ), like it's the superbowl. Everyone wants to win, but as the girls get into the recruiting zone, winning and losing becomes a LOT less important and on-field performance takes precedent (except to YJ).
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I've been involved with the lax recruiting craziness for several years but my little laxer just signed her NLI last week so hopefully I'm done. But, I will offer a little perspective if you will allow me.
For my daughter's club team, I was the person that gave out the flyers to the college coaches. I've done it since the fall of 2013, and I've met and talked to over 100 coaches. I've asked about 100 of them if they knew the score of the game they were watching, because with my duties I couldn't keep track or see the little scores across the field. 99.99% did not know the score. 99.99% of the parents did. The coaches are there to watch the girls they are recruiting, not really the game as a whole. I'm sure they get a "feel" for the score or who is ahead, but it's mostly irrelevant to them. For the most part, parents "get it", and know that the important thing is how the girls play and perform. There are some club's parents out there that seem to live and die with the team's successes or failures (YJ), like it's the superbowl. Everyone wants to win, but as the girls get into the recruiting zone, winning and losing becomes a LOT less important and on-field performance takes precedent (except to YJ).


You are once again mixing issues up. The fact that college coaches don't care what the score is is irrelelavent. That is true in all sports. They r recruiting individuals, not teams. So what? Therefore the players shouldn't care about the outcome? That's ridiculous. And quite frankly, women's lax is a little immature in its evaluation technique btw. I would advise coaches to think a little bit about the situations in games. Because ultimately they will make better recruiting decisions on kids if they are in the competitive context of a game. Which girl wants to take the game winning shot for example? Who makes the key plays in the key moments? It's what everyone missed w Tom Brady for example. Maybe they should start caring about the context of the game? Another discussion I guess.


I'm sure college coaches appreciate your recommendation on what they should be looking for.


So you disagree w the statement? Typical jackass non response. Do you believe that the context of the game can reveal something about a player or not? I do. How about you, jackass?

And do you really think that women's college lacrosse coaches are the pinnacle of coaching, and that there are not things that they can do better? If it is true that they care nothing about the context of games and how players play under different situations, then they have a lot to learn.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/17/15 03:50 AM
The colleges flock to the teams that they know are in the top of their class. I.e. Won the most games. Winning is importantant but maybe not in that particular game that they come to watch.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/17/15 03:53 AM
Another 2019 YJ commit, must be contagious. This time Navy, though I thought there was much more to the admissions process at the academy's - not sure how it works for athletes. Congrats to her.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/17/15 01:13 PM
I wonder if that 14 yr old girl truly understands the dedication and commitment it takes to not only be a Cadet but a naval officer for 7 yrs. Hope so. Good luck to her
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/17/15 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The colleges flock to the teams that they know are in the top of their class. I.e. Won the most games. Winning is importantant but maybe not in that particular game that they come to watch.


True. Looks to be the model that MnD follows - win in middle school. Have the "brand" - coaches will come. Repeat.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/17/15 02:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The colleges flock to the teams that they know are in the top of their class. I.e. Won the most games. Winning is importantant but maybe not in that particular game that they come to watch.


True. Looks to be the model that MnD follows - win in middle school. Have the "brand" - coaches will come. Repeat.


Then send kids to college for basket weaving.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/17/15 04:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The colleges flock to the teams that they know are in the top of their class. I.e. Won the most games. Winning is importantant but maybe not in that particular game that they come to watch.


True. Looks to be the model that MnD follows - win in middle school. Have the "brand" - coaches will come. Repeat.


Then send kids to college for basket weaving.


Why basket weaving? And MRS major is more lucrative.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/17/15 05:08 PM
that's lunacy! parents should be brought up on negligence charges. conscripting a 14 year old?? absurd
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/19/15 04:50 PM
Another umd commit from heros
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/19/15 11:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another umd commit from heros


What's that, two?
Wow. Coach Reese will be done with her 2019 class by spring. I wonder when the other programs will start going into "panic mode" and start pressuring.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/25/15 08:10 PM
If the IWLCA proposals don't get adopted by the NCAA, will their tournaments start having 9th grade divisions? There are so many committed girls playing in even the fall sophomore tournaments. Seems like the race to the bottom will continue and these tournaments will follow.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/26/15 01:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another umd commit from heros


What's that, two?
Wow. Coach Reese will be done with her 2019 class by spring. I wonder when the other programs will start going into "panic mode" and start pressuring.
colleges may move quickly on 2019s before the impending IWCLA proposals may pass so the best players can be locked down and grandfathered if the rules go in effect
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/26/15 05:16 PM
The "grandfathering" notion is interesting. It would be strange to have committed girls unable to communicate on campus w coaches. Wonder what the proposal is for that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/26/15 06:18 PM
Any one have any knowledge, as opposed to speculation, as to the earliest time that the new proposal will actually be considered?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/26/15 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any one have any knowledge, as opposed to speculation, as to the earliest time that the new proposal will actually be considered?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any one have any knowledge, as opposed to speculation, as to the earliest time that the new proposal will actually be considered?


Earliest will be 2017
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/26/15 07:50 PM
There will be no "grandfathering" as neither the NCAA or the institutions recognize verbals as anything more than a conversation with a coach
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 10:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any one have any knowledge, as opposed to speculation, as to the earliest time that the new proposal will actually be considered?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any one have any knowledge, as opposed to speculation, as to the earliest time that the new proposal will actually be considered?


Earliest will be 2017


If it's the fall of 2017 - the 2019's don't have to worry about it. In fact it should be a non-issue for the 2019's.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 12:50 PM
The more rules you put in place the more rules will be broken. Wake up people. There should be no restrictions on contacts. If parents and coaches want to communicate let it be. If a kid commits early so be it. There are plenty of spots in college womens lacrosse. Putting rules on it closes the curtain and causes all the rumor nonsense going on currently. Do you really think there will be no contact because some rule says so???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 01:07 PM
If this new rule is voted on and put in place it will start right away and there will not be any grandfathering period. All verbals will be just what they are a conversation that doesn't mean anything anymore. The process will start all over when the NCAA says it can .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If this new rule is voted on and put in place it will start right away and there will not be any grandfathering period. All verbals will be just what they are a conversation that doesn't mean anything anymore. The process will start all over when the NCAA says it can .


Um, that makes no sense. All the "verbals" will remain what they r, a handshake agreement. The process will not start all over when the NCAA says it can. The NCAA doesn't recognize the verbals now and they generally hold. Nothing will change for the already committed kids, other than they will not be allowed drect communication w coaches until junior year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 03:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The more rules you put in place the more rules will be broken. Wake up people. There should be no restrictions on contacts. If parents and coaches want to communicate let it be. If a kid commits early so be it. There are plenty of spots in college womens lacrosse. Putting rules on it closes the curtain and causes all the rumor nonsense going on currently. Do you really think there will be no contact because some rule says so???


Absolutely right. The NCAA needs to put some accountability where it belongs , on the coaches make the early verbal binding and limit the amount for each class.Do away with 50 player rosters this way when an early doesn't work out it is felt by the program. In this current recruiting climate a coach can scoop up all the "9th grade talent" without any care as to how the student athlete will develop over the next 3. Yrs. Their philosophy to bring in 12 - 15 recruits a class and hope 4 or 5 pan out because they have 50 player rosters may end if the NCAA can figure a way to limit the amount of recruits. Under the current trend the only ones that can lose are the girls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 04:28 PM
These proposals change nothing if accepted. You will have more closed window communication for juniors for a 2 week period in August and a couple days around holidays. Tournaments and recruiting events will still run the same. And the direct communication Sept 1st is basically the same as it is. Only change is the coaches will not want clubs to list verbal's, which are nothing anyway, and will now just be withheld from public posting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 04:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The more rules you put in place the more rules will be broken. Wake up people. There should be no restrictions on contacts. If parents and coaches want to communicate let it be. If a kid commits early so be it. There are plenty of spots in college womens lacrosse. Putting rules on it closes the curtain and causes all the rumor nonsense going on currently. Do you really think there will be no contact because some rule says so???


Absolutely right. The NCAA needs to put some accountability where it belongs , on the coaches make the early verbal binding and limit the amount for each class.Do away with 50 player rosters this way when an early doesn't work out it is felt by the program. In this current recruiting climate a coach can scoop up all the "9th grade talent" without any care as to how the student athlete will develop over the next 3. Yrs. Their philosophy to bring in 12 - 15 recruits a class and hope 4 or 5 pan out because they have 50 player rosters may end if the NCAA can figure a way to limit the amount of recruits. Under the current trend the only ones that can lose are the girls.


Explain to us how the girls can lose.



Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If this new rule is voted on and put in place it will start right away and there will not be any grandfathering period. All verbals will be just what they are a conversation that doesn't mean anything anymore. The process will start all over when the NCAA says it can .
Please stop spewing crap when you don't really know the answer. The coaches are very clear that the verbals will stick if this proposal goes through, except for normal issues like grades or something bad a kid does. Those provisions have nothing to do with this proposal. My daughter is committed and the coaches have been crystal clear about this when asked, including the coach at Penn who co-chairs the committee for this proposal. Facts not B.S. or speculation please.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 05:51 PM
All 50 girl rosters does is water down everyones award and protect the coach on bad recruits
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 08:15 PM
Yes the verbal will stand between coach and player but the will still have to abide by the no contact rule as proposed. Fact
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 08:26 PM
Explain ? Really ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 08:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes the verbal will stand between coach and player but the will still have to abide by the no contact rule as proposed. Fact
Agree, no one is debating this.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 09:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Explain ? Really ?


Yes, really.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/27/15 10:40 PM
Has anyone heard of any 2019 goalie commits?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 11/30/15 03:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anyone heard of any 2019 goalie commits?


Just SkyWalkers blue goalie to Maryland.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 02:58 AM
2019 commits keep coming. Several top teams have filled half their classes already. Congrats to the girls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 12:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 commits keep coming. Several top teams have filled half their classes already. Congrats to the girls.


I call BS on that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 commits keep coming. Several top teams have filled half their classes already. Congrats to the girls.


I call BS on that.
Second
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 03:11 PM
1/2 way sounds about right. northwestern just got a 2019 commit from my daughters club team. they told the family they have 4 at this point. does anyone have any hard info. on whether some of these top 10 have policies of not making the info public? clearly not UNC or MD, but what about the others??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 04:05 PM
I think half is good number right now. MD and UNC have many more than half at this time from what is being said. Even the top 2020 are being looked at, and spoken to as well-rumor has in the travel circuit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 04:17 PM
maybe this potential NCAA rule change has them moving even earlier than recent years to lock up these A level freshmen???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 05:54 PM
Where is the NOrthwestern commit from?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 commits keep coming. Several top teams have filled half their classes already. Congrats to the girls.


I call BS on that.
Second


So are you done calling BS? It is factual. 4-5 at least in the top 5 programs and several others ... Overall there are 2019 girls committed in the several dozen. It is what is going on. Only the top girls and the top programs, but in the spring it will move to the next tier.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 06:37 PM
philly..one of the Catholic schools
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 07:22 PM
Highly unlikely. 2019 talent in the Philly area isn't in the Catholic schools. It's in select publics in SE PA and the Inter-Ac schools. In that grouping a few of the elite girls are being actively recruited, but for most their time will start to come this summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
philly..one of the Catholic schools


Liar
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 07:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
philly..one of the Catholic schools


Liar
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
philly..one of the Catholic schools


Liar
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
philly..one of the Catholic schools


Liar


New England region
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 10:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is the NOrthwestern commit from?
Summit, NJ and STEPS Blue, she is a very good player. Her older sister who is an awesome player is committed their as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 commits keep coming. Several top teams have filled half their classes already. Congrats to the girls.


I call BS on that.
Second


So are you done calling BS? It is factual. 4-5 at least in the top 5 programs and several others ... Overall there are 2019 girls committed in the several dozen. It is what is going on. Only the top girls and the top programs, but in the spring it will move to the next tier.
You said filled their classes already which is just not true. Several dozen girls have indeed committed, but even top schools are not full.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 10:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 commits keep coming. Several top teams have filled half their classes already. Congrats to the girls.


I call BS on that.
Second


So are you done calling BS? It is factual. 4-5 at least in the top 5 programs and several others ... Overall there are 2019 girls committed in the several dozen. It is what is going on. Only the top girls and the top programs, but in the spring it will move to the next tier.
You said filled their classes already which is just not true. Several dozen girls have indeed committed, but even top schools are not full.


read the quote again ... it says HALF full.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/08/15 10:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where is the NOrthwestern commit from?
Summit, NJ and STEPS Blue, she is a very good player. Her older sister who is an awesome player is committed their as well.


well then they r up to 5 because there is a new england 2019 that just committed as well
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/09/15 01:03 AM
Most likely their all telling the truth .... Although NJ sounds like a stretch .. At summer tournaments their teams got mauled by jackets, Heros and M&D.. But maybe a stud turned some heads who knows..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/09/15 02:45 AM
The acc teams cannot be half full there's no way. If the best team -YJ - has what 3 or 4 girls and third tiers like steps and ultimate have 1(if that) then it just doesn't add up to a big number. How about Duke or BC? Any notice about commits from them?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/09/15 03:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The acc teams cannot be half full there's no way. If the best team -YJ - has what 3 or 4 girls and third tiers like steps and ultimate have 1(if that) then it just doesn't add up to a big number. How about Duke or BC? Any notice about commits from them?


no they're not likely. The post said 4 or 5 teams are half full. Seems like NU is. Maryland probably. UNC has at least a couple. Ohio State actually has a couple. As do others. Other kids have offers and haven't committed, but likely will soon. So it seems plausible that a handful of schools r around half done, a bunch have 1 or 2 commits, and many others none yet. All of this is 6-8 months earlier than last year though, which was 3-6 months earlier than the year before.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/09/15 03:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The acc teams cannot be half full there's no way. If the best team -YJ - has what 3 or 4 girls and third tiers like steps and ultimate have 1(if that) then it just doesn't add up to a big number. How about Duke or BC? Any notice about commits from them?


Funny. Let the 2019 YJ bashing begin smile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/09/15 03:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The acc teams cannot be half full there's no way. If the best team -YJ - has what 3 or 4 girls and third tiers like steps and ultimate have 1(if that) then it just doesn't add up to a big number. How about Duke or BC? Any notice about commits from them?


Hofstra has a couple lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/09/15 03:35 AM
heros will have 7-8 commits by the end of the year to big schools.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/09/15 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The acc teams cannot be half full there's no way. If the best team -YJ - has what 3 or 4 girls and third tiers like steps and ultimate have 1(if that) then it just doesn't add up to a big number. How about Duke or BC? Any notice about commits from them?


The best players on the top yellow jacket teams are always very very good. However, simply being on the best team does not make you one of the best players. Every year there are players from many of the other clubs who are stronger players and recruited over kids that play on the top YJ team. Also, remember that there is a big difference between being #1 or #2 recruit at a school and rest of the recruits. The best 25 players in the country do not play for the same club team. The top 10 - 20 colleges do for the most part recruit the same players. After the top prospects commit the flood gates open and it becomes a free-for-all. There are more spots available than there are quality players. The majority of the high end talent is scooped up by the top college programs but never forget that there are girls playing on teams that are not in the top 20 that are better than girls who are on the Maryland Roster.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/11/15 05:57 PM
just got some intel on Duke. my daughter's school has a big sister program and the girl that mentored her is now a junior defender on the Duke women's team. my daughter is more of a soccer player that is JV level lacrosse but they do talk about both sports. according to this girl they currently have 6 verbal commits in the 2019 class. to my knowledge they have made none of them public to toplaxrecuits or any of the other sites. Yah have to assume they have a policy against news releases right?? has anyone else seen any of them announced? maybe I am looking in the wrong place. is there a better place to look for this stuff????
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/11/15 06:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
just got some intel on Duke. my daughter's school has a big sister program and the girl that mentored her is now a junior defender on the Duke women's team. my daughter is more of a soccer player that is JV level lacrosse but they do talk about both sports. according to this girl they currently have 6 verbal commits in the 2019 class. to my knowledge they have made none of them public to toplaxrecuits or any of the other sites. Yah have to assume they have a policy against news releases right?? has anyone else seen any of them announced? maybe I am looking in the wrong place. is there a better place to look for this stuff????


Way to go [lacrosse] Tracy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/11/15 06:26 PM
if that's true, and that's a big if, how is it even possible they are ready to commit scholarship monies to this many kids so early on? if I'm the AD there I am asking how are you spending my cash this quick, 4 years from the time they need to be signed and you're blowing it all out already.. wth
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/11/15 06:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
just got some intel on Duke. my daughter's school has a big sister program and the girl that mentored her is now a junior defender on the Duke women's team. my daughter is more of a soccer player that is JV level lacrosse but they do talk about both sports. according to this girl they currently have 6 verbal commits in the 2019 class. to my knowledge they have made none of them public to toplaxrecuits or any of the other sites. Yah have to assume they have a policy against news releases right?? has anyone else seen any of them announced? maybe I am looking in the wrong place. is there a better place to look for this stuff????
that is 2018 girls not 2019, don't get everyone crazy on here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/11/15 07:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
if that's true, and that's a big if, how is it even possible they are ready to commit scholarship monies to this many kids so early on? if I'm the AD there I am asking how are you spending my cash this quick, 4 years from the time they need to be signed and you're blowing it all out already.. wth
true for 2018 class not 2019s, I assure you
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/11/15 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
just got some intel on Duke. my daughter's school has a big sister program and the girl that mentored her is now a junior defender on the Duke women's team. my daughter is more of a soccer player that is JV level lacrosse but they do talk about both sports. according to this girl they currently have 6 verbal commits in the 2019 class. to my knowledge they have made none of them public to toplaxrecuits or any of the other sites. Yah have to assume they have a policy against news releases right?? has anyone else seen any of them announced? maybe I am looking in the wrong place. is there a better place to look for this stuff????


Duke not recruiting until summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/14/15 01:40 AM
Hofstra has 2 2019 commits from what I hear
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/15/15 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
if that's true, and that's a big if, how is it even possible they are ready to commit scholarship monies to this many kids so early on? if I'm the AD there I am asking how are you spending my cash this quick, 4 years from the time they need to be signed and you're blowing it all out already.. wth

I heard that they gave Coach Reese a contract extension at Maryland for doing exactly that...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/19/15 06:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
if that's true, and that's a big if, how is it even possible they are ready to commit scholarship monies to this many kids so early on? if I'm the AD there I am asking how are you spending my cash this quick, 4 years from the time they need to be signed and you're blowing it all out already.. wth

I heard that they gave Coach Reese a contract extension at Maryland for doing exactly that...


So a guy at a party tonight said he doesn't think 2019s are committing. Maybe one or two, was his concession. From everything I've heard and seen, it's way more than that. I have what I believe to be fairly certain knowledge of ten or more girls at just a few schools that would lead me to believe there are closer to 30-50 2019s committed or at least w outstanding offers. What is the consensus on this board? Do u guys think it is closer two "just a couple" or 30-50? Or somewhere in between?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/19/15 12:40 PM
Oh it's at least 30 and likely a bunch more than that. NW has a handful, notre dame has 3 girls verballed from what I have been told-- obviously Maryland has almost a full class. This proposed rule change seems to be having the unintended consequence of pulling forward girls even faster and causing a rush to recruit. Like all brilliant ideas from the NCAA..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/19/15 01:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh it's at least 30 and likely a bunch more than that. NW has a handful, notre dame has 3 girls verballed from what I have been told-- obviously Maryland has almost a full class. This proposed rule change seems to be having the unintended consequence of pulling forward girls even faster and causing a rush to recruit. Like all brilliant ideas from the NCAA..


It is not the NCAA's idea. The same coaches who are doing the recruiting are the ones who came up with the idea.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/19/15 02:43 PM
Don't think it's quite that high on committed. Certainly MD and NW are active, and many of the top programs have a player or two verbaled, but it's not a super high number. The ND info is off, they along with the top academics have a slower process by design to look at academic info. ND's process is specific, and incorporates 1st year grades, etc to see if a player can even qualify.

If you are in MD or NY yes the top are verbaling, along with siblings in other states attending the same school as older sister. NJ, PA eyc the top have been identified and reached out to, but the process is still early.

Net net, it's always not as many as people would like to discuss, but if you're 2019 is a top player, she's been contacted by at least a few clubs by now. Doesn't mean it's late for anyone else, the process is fluid and you'll see much more conversation with a wider range of 2019's come spring and summer as evaluations continue.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/19/15 11:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't think it's quite that high on committed. Certainly MD and NW are active, and many of the top programs have a player or two verbaled, but it's not a super high number. The ND info is off, they along with the top academics have a slower process by design to look at academic info. ND's process is specific, and incorporates 1st year grades, etc to see if a player can even qualify.

If you are in MD or NY yes the top are verbaling, along with siblings in other states attending the same school as older sister. NJ, PA eyc the top have been identified and reached out to, but the process is still early.

Net net, it's always not as many as people would like to discuss, but if you're 2019 is a top player, she's been contacted by at least a few clubs by now. Doesn't mean it's late for anyone else, the process is fluid and you'll see much more conversation with a wider range of 2019's come spring and summer as evaluations continue.
agree with this. Probably 25 or so girls committed at this point in 2019 class best educated guess. Look at some of the club websites at you can get a sense plus from knowing a lot of lax families. In terms of Notre Dame, I highly doubt they have any 2019 commits. For the 2018s, they invited their top 9 recruits on September 5th of their sophomore year to visit for the weekend, including attending the Texas/ND football game. During the weekend, Coach Halphpenny made it very clear that these were their top recruits, they did not allow for commitments prior to this weekend as they wanted to watch all of the girls at least through the summer of their rising sophomore year and they wanted the recruits to have to come to campus for a entire weekend with their parents and spend a lot of time with the coaches, girls on the team, and with the other recruits. They said they realize many of their ACC competitors had already takend commits, but they felt this was the best approach for Ntore Dame. That is why I strongly don't think ND has taken any 2019s at this point. It goes against their philosophy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/20/15 02:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't think it's quite that high on committed. Certainly MD and NW are active, and many of the top programs have a player or two verbaled, but it's not a super high number. The ND info is off, they along with the top academics have a slower process by design to look at academic info. ND's process is specific, and incorporates 1st year grades, etc to see if a player can even qualify.

If you are in MD or NY yes the top are verbaling, along with siblings in other states attending the same school as older sister. NJ, PA eyc the top have been identified and reached out to, but the process is still early.

Net net, it's always not as many as people would like to discuss, but if you're 2019 is a top player, she's been contacted by at least a few clubs by now. Doesn't mean it's late for anyone else, the process is fluid and you'll see much more conversation with a wider range of 2019's come spring and summer as evaluations continue.
agree with this. Probably 25 or so girls committed at this point in 2019 class best educated guess. Look at some of the club websites at you can get a sense plus from knowing a lot of lax families. In terms of Notre Dame, I highly doubt they have any 2019 commits. For the 2018s, they invited their top 9 recruits on September 5th of their sophomore year to visit for the weekend, including attending the Texas/ND football game. During the weekend, Coach Halphpenny made it very clear that these were their top recruits, they did not allow for commitments prior to this weekend as they wanted to watch all of the girls at least through the summer of their rising sophomore year and they wanted the recruits to have to come to campus for a entire weekend with their parents and spend a lot of time with the coaches, girls on the team, and with the other recruits. They said they realize many of their ACC competitors had already takend commits, but they felt this was the best approach for Ntore Dame. That is why I strongly don't think ND has taken any 2019s at this point. It goes against their philosophy.


Disagree in that I know a 2019 with an offer from ND. She hasn't committed so technically you are correct at least in her case, but the ball is in her court. Things have accelerated meaningfully with the 2019s vs the 2018s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/20/15 04:06 AM
Difficult to believe. Not saying it's untrue, however would be very unlike ND.
In the past, and this year as well, they have wanted at least a semester of grades but really prefer a full year, along with psat/sat, and other info before a consideration would be made. And also pretty consistent that nothing happens until after freshman year.

If it's an offer great, but far too many times in the past people confuse interest with offer or impending offer, etc...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/20/15 04:28 AM
Why is it hard to believe? They have gotten potted plants into south bend to play football.. Now they are becoming somewhat legit in WLax, I mean they locked up Fortunato when she hadn't even gotten her braces on right? This in not Cal Poly here folks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/20/15 11:48 AM
I'm sorry but to say they have waited for SAT scores???? You're going back to wooden sticks, no goggles and natural boundaries on the field. Come on let's gets real now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/20/15 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Difficult to believe. Not saying it's untrue, however would be very unlike ND.
In the past, and this year as well, they have wanted at least a semester of grades but really prefer a full year, along with psat/sat, and other info before a consideration would be made. And also pretty consistent that nothing happens until after freshman year.

If it's an offer great, but far too many times in the past people confuse interest with offer or impending offer, etc...
ask the 2018 girls from the YJs who all committed after the September 5th recruit weekend at the beginning of their sophomore year to ND if it is true. I was there, I assure you it is true. Maybe ND changed its approach for recruting 2019s, but based on what they said during that weekend, I doubt it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/20/15 03:08 PM
Am agreeing with you, they haven't changed their approach at all. To the potted plant and wooden stick posters, you're just showing your lack of knowledge into the real process after being told from posters who have gone or are going thru their process. Too many stories floating that player x got an offer, Duke has their 2019 class almost filled, etc... Are there some schools being aggressive right now? Sure there are, and players are committing when it makes sense to them, Northwestern and MD being prime examples.
This isn't a revenue producing sport and grades and other intangibles count, frankly more programs should be like ND, Duke, and others and ensure the recruit can be successful at the school of choice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/20/15 04:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Difficult to believe. Not saying it's untrue, however would be very unlike ND.
In the past, and this year as well, they have wanted at least a semester of grades but really prefer a full year, along with psat/sat, and other info before a consideration would be made. And also pretty consistent that nothing happens until after freshman year.

If it's an offer great, but far too many times in the past people confuse interest with offer or impending offer, etc...
ask the 2018 girls from the YJs who all committed after the September 5th recruit weekend at the beginning of their sophomore year to ND if it is true. I was there, I assure you it is true. Maybe ND changed its approach for recruting 2019s, but based on what they said during that weekend, I doubt it.


I would not be surprised if ND has offered spots to one or two 2019's. The recruiting timeline has changed significantly over the past 18 months. There are a few schools ND being one of them who realize that they were not in the game with the top 2018's. It was not long ago that ND, Duke and others could Identify, track and recruit players as rising 9th graders without having to worry about pulling the trigger. Schools were able to build a pipeline without having to actually make an offer. Now however, coaches have to be ready to commit a kid in the 9th grade or risk falling behind their competition. Remember, not all recruits are created equal. The top programs are all chasing the same players. ND wants to be in the hunt with all of the top programs, they want to be able to land 1 or 2 of the top recruits in the country. If you do not get at least a couple of studs per year you will not be competitive. With other top academic schools willing to commit kids early ND is most likely willing to at least give give a wink.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/20/15 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why is it hard to believe? They have gotten potted plants into south bend to play football.. Now they are becoming somewhat legit in WLax, I mean they locked up Fortunato when she hadn't even gotten her braces on right? This in not Cal Poly here folks.


Obviously you were not smart enough to get in to ND. If you think they admit any football player, you are wrong. The average football player at ND is not as smart as the average student, but is there a school in the nation where that statement isn't true? They don't admit a single player who they don't think can graduate. Many players major in something soft, but so do many other students, right? Probably like you did, if I had to guess.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/20/15 07:52 PM
No confusion. A 2019 has an offer from ND. I'm sure you are correct about the 2018's. I'm also sure I'm correct about this offer to a '19. She is a top player and has offers outstanding from more than a few places, ND being one of them. ND wouldn't have a chance of getting her if they didn't offer her now. So, unfortunately, the process has accelerated yet again this year and given your knowledge of the situation w the 2018s, it appears ND has had to change with the times as well. What we all thought we could count on/knew from last year, seems to have gone by the wayside. At least for the early wave of recruits. Chances are the next wave will be earlier than last year as well, however.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/21/15 12:16 AM
not smart enough yes, plus I wanted to go to an SEC school for football. but my daughter is smart and probly headed for a Patriot league school or a service academy. all I know if this proposed moratorium on early recruiting is causing a feeding frenzy. time to get aggressive guys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/21/15 11:23 PM
So here's a legit question and not asking anyone to name clubs or do any club bashing but looking for feedback from people who have left a club and felt they made the right decision. Our daughter is a few years younger but looking for feedback from folks with a few more years under their belt. It would also help if you state why you left and if you found it someplace else. Would also like to hear if anyone regretted or returned to their former club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/21/15 11:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So here's a legit question and not asking anyone to name clubs or do any club bashing but looking for feedback from people who have left a club and felt they made the right decision. Our daughter is a few years younger but looking for feedback from folks with a few more years under their belt. It would also help if you state why you left and if you found it someplace else. Would also like to hear if anyone regretted or returned to their former club.


Not sure how this info will help you without naming names. Just wondering if the grass is greener? As I'm sure you realize, every situation is different.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So here's a legit question and not asking anyone to name clubs or do any club bashing but looking for feedback from people who have left a club and felt they made the right decision. Our daughter is a few years younger but looking for feedback from folks with a few more years under their belt. It would also help if you state why you left and if you found it someplace else. Would also like to hear if anyone regretted or returned to their former club.


I'll bite. My daughter played for a club for two years, when she was a rising 6th and a rising 7th grader. The first year was okay. The second year we had a new coach and even that was okay.

What changed was the entire roster except for my daughter. Okay, maybe three girls stayed. The rest were grandfathered in from another club and that was problem number one.

Problem number two was the atmosphere of the team. The grandfathered-in girls and their parents were chummy, and my daughter, practically the only original member of the team was suddenly an outsider, as was I. No one would pass her the ball, I'd try to chat with the parents and they'd respond politely but never innate any conversation. They included us in nothing, and how frigging awkward when you take your daughter to a local attraction and there's the team enjoying themselves. It was a clique and we were not in it.

The final straw was a complete lack of communication from the club directors and their apparent disinterest in the girls' side of the program. I touched base with parents from the first year and we moved on and had zero regrets.

What you need to look for as you shop around is partly the club specifics, how much, how far, what's included, which tournaments. But also very important is the age level and the team you expect her to play with. Are there girls your daughter knows? Do you know the parents? How well would the fit be?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/22/15 01:37 AM
Originally Posted by Powderfinger
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So here's a legit question and not asking anyone to name clubs or do any club bashing but looking for feedback from people who have left a club and felt they made the right decision. Our daughter is a few years younger but looking for feedback from folks with a few more years under their belt. It would also help if you state why you left and if you found it someplace else. Would also like to hear if anyone regretted or returned to their former club.


I'll bite. My daughter played for a club for two years, when she was a rising 6th and a rising 7th grader. The first year was okay. The second year we had a new coach and even that was okay.

What changed was the entire roster except for my daughter. Okay, maybe three girls stayed. The rest were grandfathered in from another club and that was problem number one.

Problem number two was the atmosphere of the team. The grandfathered-in girls and their parents were chummy, and my daughter, practically the only original member of the team was suddenly an outsider, as was I. No one would pass her the ball, I'd try to chat with the parents and they'd respond politely but never innate any conversation. They included us in nothing, and how frigging awkward when you take your daughter to a local attraction and there's the team enjoying themselves. It was a clique and we were not in it.

The final straw was a complete lack of communication from the club directors and their apparent disinterest in the girls' side of the program. I touched base with parents from the first year and we moved on and had zero regrets.

What you need to look for as you shop around is partly the club specifics, how much, how far, what's included, which tournaments. But also very important is the age level and the team you expect her to play with. Are there girls your daughter knows? Do you know the parents? How well would the fit be?


To the previous poster, yes I think it's more about is the grass greener someplace else.

I do get the clique thing for sure especially when you see a very close group of girls and parents all from the same town. I'm less worried about me but what my daughter to have a great experience. I appreciate the candid response.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/22/15 04:03 AM
Why can't lacrosse play by age-based divisions? What is it about this sport compared to others? It seems so simple and obvious to run things by age. I guess the rich folk like to buy their kids everything, including an expensive extra year of middle school so little Buffy can "compete" better. Pathetic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/22/15 01:31 PM
I regret being on team elevate I could not recommend this team in good conscience
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/22/15 03:20 PM
The most important consideration is finding a team for your duaghter where she can develop best as a lacrosse player. If she would be a starter on one team and the last sub in on another - choose starter. If team A has "stud" players but a lousy coach and team B has weaker players but a great coach - choose B. Find a team that practices together as often as possible - practice is just as important as play. Those are my opinions, so take them with a grain of salt.

NO team/club/coach/parent group is perfect, so you will always be weighing pros and cons rather than having a clear cut choice.

That being said, my daughter is entering her 5th season on the same LI team and she couldn't be happier. Many of her former teammates have moved on to other teams and they appear to be content as well. Some left to get more playing time, others left to play a different position and still others chose a new team because it was closer to home. All legitimate reasons.

At the end of the day, you will be spending a lot of money and a lot of time on travel lacrosse - make sure your daughter is enjoying herself and getting better as a player every year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/22/15 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I regret being on team elevate I could not recommend this team in good conscience


Why are you so disappointed with Elevate? Did you just move there from another team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/27/15 01:30 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself. I think that too often parents are more concerned about their own image i.e. my daughter plays on such and such team, rather than what's actually in the best interest of their child.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/30/15 03:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Couldn't have said it better myself. I think that too often parents are more concerned about their own image i.e. my daughter plays on such and such team, rather than what's actually in the best interest of their child.


Ok but let's say kid gets dropped to second team form club A but club B will gladly take her on their top team. Isn't it better to be on the top team regardless of club? Aren't the top teams given the most attention by club directors and usually have the best coaching?
All too often I see such a dramatic drop off from 1st to 2nd team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 12/31/15 06:20 PM
I'd leave the choice up to your daughter. If playing time doesn't matter to her and she's ok with minimal minutes, A team is the ticket. If she wants to play and improve, go with the B team. There will be a drop off in talent from top to bottom, but college coaches have said if a child has ability they will find them. Most clubs play their A and B teams in the same anyway. I know girls who have great skills that languish on the bench of an A team as the coach plays his/her horses almost the entire game in an attempt to win the tourney. Despite a drop in their confidence and happiness, they have opted to stay as it's important to them (or perhaps their parents) from a prestige level. There are many factors to weigh...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/01/16 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I regret being on team elevate I could not recommend this team in good conscience


Why are you so disappointed with Elevate? Did you just move there from another team?


Went to an Elevate clinic the other week. Had like 7 age groups combined. One woman coaching who seemed like she couldn't be less interested in being there. You know of any clubs taking girls this late? Need to get out before the summer!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/01/16 07:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I regret being on team elevate I could not recommend this team in good conscience


Why are you so disappointed with Elevate? Did you just move there from another team?


Went to an Elevate clinic the other week. Had like 7 age groups combined. One woman coaching who seemed like she couldn't be less interested in being there. You know of any clubs taking girls this late? Need to get out before the summer!


Unfortunately, if you have a pulse and the funds to cover the fee you are in. Better if you have someone on the A team to vouche for you and you are guarantee spot on top team site unseen. All with the promise to beat YJ this season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/01/16 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I regret being on team elevate I could not recommend this team in good conscience


Why are you so disappointed with Elevate? Did you just move there from another team?


Went to an Elevate clinic the other week. Had like 7 age groups combined. One woman coaching who seemed like she couldn't be less interested in being there. You know of any clubs taking girls this late? Need to get out before the summer!


Unfortunately, if you have a pulse and the funds to cover the fee you are in. Better if you have someone on the A team to vouche for you and you are guarantee spot on top team site unseen. All with the promise to beat YJ this season.


NO top Elevate team is beating a top YJ team in ANY age group. I think the top YJ team is comparable to the 3rd YJ team in each age group. Would you agree?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/01/16 09:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I regret being on team elevate I could not recommend this team in good conscience


Why are you so disappointed with Elevate? Did you just move there from another team?


Went to an Elevate clinic the other week. Had like 7 age groups combined. One woman coaching who seemed like she couldn't be less interested in being there. You know of any clubs taking girls this late? Need to get out before the summer!


Unfortunately, if you have a pulse and the funds to cover the fee you are in. Better if you have someone on the A team to vouche for you and you are guarantee spot on top team site unseen. All with the promise to beat YJ this season.


NO top Elevate team is beating a top YJ team in ANY age group. I think the top YJ team is comparable to the 3rd YJ team in each age group. Would you agree?


I think there's usually a ringleader in every age group trying to persuade disgruntled players to come aboard with visions of grandjuor. Club directors will make promises of playing time, allowing players to dictate positions and some will be happy others probably not. What most people fail to realize is these ringleaders of your so called friends are usually offered something in return for getting players in the form of "scholarships" or reduced club fees. Think about it why else would they be recruiting so hard? The unfortunate thing is for the ones that leave and end up unhappy, going back is not always an option.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/01/16 10:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I regret being on team elevate I could not recommend this team in good conscience


Why are you so disappointed with Elevate? Did you just move there from another team?


Went to an Elevate clinic the other week. Had like 7 age groups combined. One woman coaching who seemed like she couldn't be less interested in being there. You know of any clubs taking girls this late? Need to get out before the summer!


I think there's usually a ringleader in every age group trying to persuade disgruntled players to come aboard with visions of grandjuor. Club directors will make promises of playing time, allowing players to dictate positions and some will be happy others probably not. What most people fail to realize is these ringleaders of your so called friends are usually offered something in return for getting players in the form of "scholarships" or reduced club fees. Think about it why else would they be recruiting so hard? The unfortunate thing is for the ones that leave and end up unhappy, going back is not always an option.


Are you referring to the ringleaders at Elevate? We have one of those parents in my town? They are also the parent coaches at Elevate. Most non-parent coaches have left Elevate so that is all that is left.... parent coaches. I think most parents in the town are growing tired of Elevate and I think this persons association with Elevate is starting to damage their reputation within our town lax program as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/02/16 12:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I regret being on team elevate I could not recommend this team in good conscience


Why are you so disappointed with Elevate? Did you just move there from another team?


Went to an Elevate clinic the other week. Had like 7 age groups combined. One woman coaching who seemed like she couldn't be less interested in being there. You know of any clubs taking girls this late? Need to get out before the summer!


This is absolute BS. Just flat out untrue. Happy New Year keep stirring the crap.

We are very happy and our daughter loves the team and all the opportunities she has gotten. Sad that you need to come on here and make stuff up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/02/16 01:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]I regret being on team elevate I could not recommend this team in good conscience


Why are you so disappointed with Elevate? Did you just move there from another team?


Went to an Elevate clinic the other week. Had like 7 age groups combined. One woman coaching who seemed like she couldn't be less interested in being there. You know of any clubs taking girls this late? Need to get out before the summer! [/quote

This is absolute BS. Just flat out untrue. Happy New Year keep stirring the crap.

We are very happy and our daughter loves the team and all the opportunities she has gotten. Sad that you need to come on here and make stuff up.


So says one of the local ringleaders! Once you set the hook keep reeling in!! How many girls did you convince to come over?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/02/16 01:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I regret being on team elevate I could not recommend this team in good conscience


Why are you so disappointed with Elevate? Did you just move there from another team?


Went to an Elevate clinic the other week. Had like 7 age groups combined. One woman coaching who seemed like she couldn't be less interested in being there. You know of any clubs taking girls this late? Need to get out before the summer!




This is absolute BS. Just flat out untrue. Happy New Year keep stirring the crap.

We are very happy and our daughter loves the team and all the opportunities she has gotten. Sad that you need to come on here and make stuff up.


Could you expand on the opportunities your daughter was given? Are you a 2019?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/02/16 02:07 PM
The only competitive team Elevate has ever had is their 2017 team and they were never really a top team. Every year they claim to have the next best Elevate team only to be B-C level at best. If you are not looking for a highly competitive team then maybe they are the club for you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/03/16 06:25 PM
Elevate 2016Blue team was excellent Ö a lot of the girls going on to play lacrosse in college.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/03/16 08:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2016Blue team was excellent Ö a lot of the girls going on to play lacrosse in college.


Excellent is a bit of a stretch
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/04/16 05:55 PM
Thxs Dave.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/05/16 01:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2016Blue team was excellent Ö a lot of the girls going on to play lacrosse in college.


They had some very good players but were by no means an excellent team, had they ever won a competitive tournament .I know when they played YJ top team it was not competitive at all. To say that team was excellent just shows Elevate has never had a top team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/05/16 04:08 PM
Who cares about top team here top team there. Is your daughter happy? People who come on here and chest pump are usually the ones who never played and are living through their kids. My daughter has been with Elevate for 2 yrs now and I wouldn't change a thing. Folks there's a bigger picture out there then everyone fighting about who's team is the best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/05/16 07:49 PM
I'm happy your daughter is happy with elevate but it probably won't last with Dave running the show
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/05/16 08:07 PM
It's funny I keep on hearing about how bad this guy is. Sorry I don't see it. He is hands on with these girls and is always around. Can't say that about other club directors. And not for nothing he does alot for the girls on recruiting side of it. The right tournaments for your daughter to be seen. We aren't at that age yet but soon.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/05/16 08:42 PM
so let me ask you something..if you keep on hearing about how bad a guy he is, maybe, just maybe, there is a hint of truth to it?..cant be ALL bad folks posting..Have you looked into his past business dealings?...may open some eyes...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/05/16 09:18 PM
No I haven't. And that's none of my business about his past. As long as he is doing the right thing now that's all that matters. And keeps on doing right for the girls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/05/16 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about top team here top team there. Is your daughter happy? People who come on here and chest pump are usually the ones who never played and are living through their kids. My daughter has been with Elevate for 2 yrs now and I wouldn't change a thing. Folks there's a bigger picture out there then everyone fighting about who's team is the best.


Can I ask for some examples of why your so happy? Many people post how great and happy they are but never offer any specifics.
Did you start with this club or move from another and have something to compare it to?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/06/16 12:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
so let me ask you something..if you keep on hearing about how bad a guy he is, maybe, just maybe, there is a hint of truth to it?..cant be ALL bad folks posting..Have you looked into his past business dealings?...may open some eyes...


What kind of "dealings"?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/06/16 12:36 AM
Happy cause daughter loves her teammates and is enjoying herself. Meeting girls from many different towns and building many friendships. Yes and I like when Dave is there at clinics coaching the girls. My daughter plays better when he is around. He knows how to motivate them. Is that good enough for you?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/06/16 01:46 PM
Excellent advice on recruiting from former Tewaaraton winner, Katie Chrest Erbe - and not just for lacrosse:

So you want to play lacrosse in college? Well, Iím sure youíre already familiar with most of the fundamentals of recruiting: join a club team, attend camps of the schools youíre interested in, compile an academic and athletic resume, email college coaches and keep them abreast on where youíll be playing and when. These are all important parts of the recruiting process, but I wanted to bring attention to a few other, less talked about aspects that are actually a huge deal.

First, itís extremely important to honestly assess which schools and which level of lacrosse is the best fit for you or your daughter. Maryland, UNC, Northwestern bring in about 8-12 girls per year. So while lacrosse is certainly a sport with tons of opportunity, the sport has gotten much more competitive and the spots at those top schools and programs are more limited than ever. Those programs are looking for the cream of the crop, a chosen few. There are an incredible number of opportunities out there beyond the top 20 Division I schools. Now that Iím in the Midwest, Iíve begun to realize how many Division II and III programs exist that are dying for players. Keep in mind that, for the most part, lacrosse ends after college, so the education piece of your experience truly is the most important. Donít get caught up in the hoopla of where everyone else is going. Do whatís best for you.

Second, student athletes MUST lead their own recruiting process. There are a few things that cause sirens and alarms to go off for a college coach and turn them off to a kid, and a parent who is working harder than their child to get recruited makes that short list. Once a student-athlete arrives on campus, a multitude of responsibilities are heaped onto their lap. Being a good student, attending study hall hours, turning in assignments on time, managing time wisely, showing up to practice on time with all the correct gear and equipment, being socially responsible, hosting recruitsÖ the list goes on and on. Much of the recruiting process for a coach is feeling out a student-athlete to see if they are capable of shouldering these responsibilities. If a recruit isnít the one taking initiative in their recruiting process, itís going to be hard for the coach to believe she will have the life skills and wherewithal to be a reliable member of their team. The student-athlete will be the one attending school, dealing with the coach, etc. once she gets to school, so she needs to be the one doing the work in her recruiting process.

Going back to the sirens and alarms and red flagsÖ this brings me to my next point: making good decisions off the field. Whether itís at a tournament between games, on your weekends with friends, on a recruiting trip or on Twitter, social responsibility is absolutely essential. We are in a day and age where a 140-character post to social media by a teenager can cost a grown adult their entire career and livelihood. Many coaches have spent decades working their way into the job in which they now hold. This is why many coaches are incredibly cautious about recruits whose decisions surrounding their social lives and their social media usage appear risky. Coaches are finding more and more that taking a risk with a player whose social media is questionable just isnít worth it. Be smart, think before you post, and if you wouldnít hold the picture up in a personal meeting with the coach (or your parent for that matter) then donít post it!

Next, ACADEMICS, ACADEMICS, ACADEMICS! Iím talking to all you freshmen out there! With how competitive things are getting across the board with college acceptance, admission standards are higher than ever and are continuing to stiffen even more. Sometimes coaches have some wiggle room, but more and more college admissions offices are demanding that athletes make the cut prior to stepping foot on campus. In many cases a "C" on a report card, even if itís from your freshman year, is a big no-no. On top of stricter standards, recruiting is occurring much sooner these days so your freshmen transcripts may be what coaches are depending on when theyíre deciding if you can hack it academically at their school. Good grades often signify maturity, responsibility, hard work and attention to detail ó all qualities that coaches are looking for in their student-athletes.

Last of all, here's a little analogy that may help as you try to understand and navigate this process. Iíve often said that recruiting is a bit like dating. There are times when either party (college coach or student-athlete) really put themselves out there. There are times when youíre really feeling the love and times when youíre getting all kinds of weird signalsÖ or no signals at all. Here are a couple things to keep in mind. First, recruiting is just one job on the list of a coachís many responsibilities. Yes, itís a big part of their job, but theyíre also trying to manage 30 players, develop talent, build a solid lacrosse program, scout other teams, watch film, fundraise and keep on top of academics. Itís a HUGE job. With that said, itís important to understand that almost no college coaches are responding to every email they receive. They receive hundreds and hundreds of emails ó especially during tournament months. Also, they are most likely spending the majority of their recruiting time on the recruits they are very interested in. So, if you arenít getting anything back, it might be time to move on and take a look at another school. If youíre set on that particular school, it may be helpful to ask your club coach to contact the coach to see if theyíre interested. If they are not, you have two options: move on to another school or apply and try to get in on your own and ask if they will take walk-ons.

As you can see there is a lot more to getting recruited than playing on a good club team, scoring goals, making saves and getting ground balls. Make sure youíre taking care of life outside of lacrosse; itís as important as your on-field value. And, remember to read the signals as this can save you a lot of time and confusion.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/06/16 02:41 PM
Ugh. Have read so many of these posts about Dave, specifically, and feel like I need to respond. My daughter is in her 2nd year at Elevate. She is not 2019 -- in fact, she is much younger (2024). While everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, I can only say that Dave has changed the way that my daughter feels about lax. At practice, he encourages the girls, he motivates the girls, he has fun with the girls, he supports the girls. When my daughter does something well, he is there with a high five. When she makes a mistake, he says that it is great because it means that she is pushing herself to try new things. It is always positive and motivating. The girls all play better when he is there, and my daughter works harder at home (backyard) so that she can show him how much she has learned. Dave shows up to the younger kids' tournaments, he shows up to their practices, he is fully "in" when he doesn't have to be at a field for his older teams. And, these are not grades with his daughters, they are not recruiting age girls, they are little girls who are new to lax! He loves lax & he loves coaching these girls - it is evident every time I watch him. At the end-of year gala last year, when he was presenting the scholarship for a player, he couldn't get through his speech without tearing up. And the girls who spoke at the end -- the girls who were not coming back due to their graduation year, spoke of Elevate being their second family. I have no idea why so many people are concerned about Dave and his past, but if you're not part of Elevate then leave it alone. We, who are part of the team, are here for a very specific reason. My daughter will probably not play lax in college. That's OK. But she loves her team, she loves her coaches and she is very proud to say that she is part of this club.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/06/16 02:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Excellent advice on recruiting from former Tewaaraton winner, Katie Chrest Erbe - and not just for lacrosse:

So you want to play lacrosse in college? Well, Iím sure youíre already familiar with most of the fundamentals of recruiting: join a club team, attend camps of the schools youíre interested in, compile an academic and athletic resume, email college coaches and keep them abreast on where youíll be playing and when. These are all important parts of the recruiting process, but I wanted to bring attention to a few other, less talked about aspects that are actually a huge deal.

First, itís extremely important to honestly assess which schools and which level of lacrosse is the best fit for you or your daughter. Maryland, UNC, Northwestern bring in about 8-12 girls per year. So while lacrosse is certainly a sport with tons of opportunity, the sport has gotten much more competitive and the spots at those top schools and programs are more limited than ever. Those programs are looking for the cream of the crop, a chosen few. There are an incredible number of opportunities out there beyond the top 20 Division I schools. Now that Iím in the Midwest, Iíve begun to realize how many Division II and III programs exist that are dying for players. Keep in mind that, for the most part, lacrosse ends after college, so the education piece of your experience truly is the most important. Donít get caught up in the hoopla of where everyone else is going. Do whatís best for you.

Second, student athletes MUST lead their own recruiting process. There are a few things that cause sirens and alarms to go off for a college coach and turn them off to a kid, and a parent who is working harder than their child to get recruited makes that short list. Once a student-athlete arrives on campus, a multitude of responsibilities are heaped onto their lap. Being a good student, attending study hall hours, turning in assignments on time, managing time wisely, showing up to practice on time with all the correct gear and equipment, being socially responsible, hosting recruitsÖ the list goes on and on. Much of the recruiting process for a coach is feeling out a student-athlete to see if they are capable of shouldering these responsibilities. If a recruit isnít the one taking initiative in their recruiting process, itís going to be hard for the coach to believe she will have the life skills and wherewithal to be a reliable member of their team. The student-athlete will be the one attending school, dealing with the coach, etc. once she gets to school, so she needs to be the one doing the work in her recruiting process.

Going back to the sirens and alarms and red flagsÖ this brings me to my next point: making good decisions off the field. Whether itís at a tournament between games, on your weekends with friends, on a recruiting trip or on Twitter, social responsibility is absolutely essential. We are in a day and age where a 140-character post to social media by a teenager can cost a grown adult their entire career and livelihood. Many coaches have spent decades working their way into the job in which they now hold. This is why many coaches are incredibly cautious about recruits whose decisions surrounding their social lives and their social media usage appear risky. Coaches are finding more and more that taking a risk with a player whose social media is questionable just isnít worth it. Be smart, think before you post, and if you wouldnít hold the picture up in a personal meeting with the coach (or your parent for that matter) then donít post it!

Next, ACADEMICS, ACADEMICS, ACADEMICS! Iím talking to all you freshmen out there! With how competitive things are getting across the board with college acceptance, admission standards are higher than ever and are continuing to stiffen even more. Sometimes coaches have some wiggle room, but more and more college admissions offices are demanding that athletes make the cut prior to stepping foot on campus. In many cases a "C" on a report card, even if itís from your freshman year, is a big no-no. On top of stricter standards, recruiting is occurring much sooner these days so your freshmen transcripts may be what coaches are depending on when theyíre deciding if you can hack it academically at their school. Good grades often signify maturity, responsibility, hard work and attention to detail ó all qualities that coaches are looking for in their student-athletes.

Last of all, here's a little analogy that may help as you try to understand and navigate this process. Iíve often said that recruiting is a bit like dating. There are times when either party (college coach or student-athlete) really put themselves out there. There are times when youíre really feeling the love and times when youíre getting all kinds of weird signalsÖ or no signals at all. Here are a couple things to keep in mind. First, recruiting is just one job on the list of a coachís many responsibilities. Yes, itís a big part of their job, but theyíre also trying to manage 30 players, develop talent, build a solid lacrosse program, scout other teams, watch film, fundraise and keep on top of academics. Itís a HUGE job. With that said, itís important to understand that almost no college coaches are responding to every email they receive. They receive hundreds and hundreds of emails ó especially during tournament months. Also, they are most likely spending the majority of their recruiting time on the recruits they are very interested in. So, if you arenít getting anything back, it might be time to move on and take a look at another school. If youíre set on that particular school, it may be helpful to ask your club coach to contact the coach to see if theyíre interested. If they are not, you have two options: move on to another school or apply and try to get in on your own and ask if they will take walk-ons.

As you can see there is a lot more to getting recruited than playing on a good club team, scoring goals, making saves and getting ground balls. Make sure youíre taking care of life outside of lacrosse; itís as important as your on-field value. And, remember to read the signals as this can save you a lot of time and confusion.


Great post
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/06/16 03:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Excellent advice on recruiting from former Tewaaraton winner, Katie Chrest Erbe - and not just for lacrosse:

So you want to play lacrosse in college? Well, Iím sure youíre already familiar with most of the fundamentals of recruiting: join a club team, attend camps of the schools youíre interested in, compile an academic and athletic resume, email college coaches and keep them abreast on where youíll be playing and when. These are all important parts of the recruiting process, but I wanted to bring attention to a few other, less talked about aspects that are actually a huge deal.

First, itís extremely important to honestly assess which schools and which level of lacrosse is the best fit for you or your daughter. Maryland, UNC, Northwestern bring in about 8-12 girls per year. So while lacrosse is certainly a sport with tons of opportunity, the sport has gotten much more competitive and the spots at those top schools and programs are more limited than ever. Those programs are looking for the cream of the crop, a chosen few. There are an incredible number of opportunities out there beyond the top 20 Division I schools. Now that Iím in the Midwest, Iíve begun to realize how many Division II and III programs exist that are dying for players. Keep in mind that, for the most part, lacrosse ends after college, so the education piece of your experience truly is the most important. Donít get caught up in the hoopla of where everyone else is going. Do whatís best for you.

Second, student athletes MUST lead their own recruiting process. There are a few things that cause sirens and alarms to go off for a college coach and turn them off to a kid, and a parent who is working harder than their child to get recruited makes that short list. Once a student-athlete arrives on campus, a multitude of responsibilities are heaped onto their lap. Being a good student, attending study hall hours, turning in assignments on time, managing time wisely, showing up to practice on time with all the correct gear and equipment, being socially responsible, hosting recruitsÖ the list goes on and on. Much of the recruiting process for a coach is feeling out a student-athlete to see if they are capable of shouldering these responsibilities. If a recruit isnít the one taking initiative in their recruiting process, itís going to be hard for the coach to believe she will have the life skills and wherewithal to be a reliable member of their team. The student-athlete will be the one attending school, dealing with the coach, etc. once she gets to school, so she needs to be the one doing the work in her recruiting process.

Going back to the sirens and alarms and red flagsÖ this brings me to my next point: making good decisions off the field. Whether itís at a tournament between games, on your weekends with friends, on a recruiting trip or on Twitter, social responsibility is absolutely essential. We are in a day and age where a 140-character post to social media by a teenager can cost a grown adult their entire career and livelihood. Many coaches have spent decades working their way into the job in which they now hold. This is why many coaches are incredibly cautious about recruits whose decisions surrounding their social lives and their social media usage appear risky. Coaches are finding more and more that taking a risk with a player whose social media is questionable just isnít worth it. Be smart, think before you post, and if you wouldnít hold the picture up in a personal meeting with the coach (or your parent for that matter) then donít post it!

Next, ACADEMICS, ACADEMICS, ACADEMICS! Iím talking to all you freshmen out there! With how competitive things are getting across the board with college acceptance, admission standards are higher than ever and are continuing to stiffen even more. Sometimes coaches have some wiggle room, but more and more college admissions offices are demanding that athletes make the cut prior to stepping foot on campus. In many cases a "C" on a report card, even if itís from your freshman year, is a big no-no. On top of stricter standards, recruiting is occurring much sooner these days so your freshmen transcripts may be what coaches are depending on when theyíre deciding if you can hack it academically at their school. Good grades often signify maturity, responsibility, hard work and attention to detail ó all qualities that coaches are looking for in their student-athletes.

Last of all, here's a little analogy that may help as you try to understand and navigate this process. Iíve often said that recruiting is a bit like dating. There are times when either party (college coach or student-athlete) really put themselves out there. There are times when youíre really feeling the love and times when youíre getting all kinds of weird signalsÖ or no signals at all. Here are a couple things to keep in mind. First, recruiting is just one job on the list of a coachís many responsibilities. Yes, itís a big part of their job, but theyíre also trying to manage 30 players, develop talent, build a solid lacrosse program, scout other teams, watch film, fundraise and keep on top of academics. Itís a HUGE job. With that said, itís important to understand that almost no college coaches are responding to every email they receive. They receive hundreds and hundreds of emails ó especially during tournament months. Also, they are most likely spending the majority of their recruiting time on the recruits they are very interested in. So, if you arenít getting anything back, it might be time to move on and take a look at another school. If youíre set on that particular school, it may be helpful to ask your club coach to contact the coach to see if theyíre interested. If they are not, you have two options: move on to another school or apply and try to get in on your own and ask if they will take walk-ons.

As you can see there is a lot more to getting recruited than playing on a good club team, scoring goals, making saves and getting ground balls. Make sure youíre taking care of life outside of lacrosse; itís as important as your on-field value. And, remember to read the signals as this can save you a lot of time and confusion.


^^Bingo!!
Copied, pasted and sent to my already commited daughter, because it doesnt end with the NLI
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/07/16 06:26 PM
Did anyone go to that thing in PA last weekend? If you did - how was it? Did a lot of coaches show up?
Or should we just hold on to our money.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/07/16 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did anyone go to that thing in PA last weekend? If you did - how was it? Did a lot of coaches show up?
Or should we just hold on to our money.



Hold on to your money if what you are asking is: Is it worth it from a recruiting point of view?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/07/16 07:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did anyone go to that thing in PA last weekend? If you did - how was it? Did a lot of coaches show up?
Or should we just hold on to our money.



Hold on to your money if what you are asking is: Is it worth it from a recruiting point of view?


Yes, I'm wondering if it's worth it. And also wondering if we made a mistake. My daughter applied and was invited then changed her mind because her two BFF's have parents who are a little quicker on the up-take than I am and opted out. We therefore opted out. I was wondering if it was the right decision. From what I have heard so far - it was not impressive and did not meet the hype. Is that true? I don't think we will need to attend one of these next year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/07/16 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did anyone go to that thing in PA last weekend? If you did - how was it? Did a lot of coaches show up?
Or should we just hold on to our money.



Hold on to your money if what you are asking is: Is it worth it from a recruiting point of view?


Yes, I'm wondering if it's worth it. And also wondering if we made a mistake. My daughter applied and was invited then changed her mind because her two BFF's have parents who are a little quicker on the up-take than I am and opted out. We therefore opted out. I was wondering if it was the right decision. From what I have heard so far - it was not impressive and did not meet the hype. Is that true? I don't think we will need to attend one of these next year.


These things are a waste, generally speaking, from a recruiting point of view. I strongly believe, having had one kid go through the lax recruiting process recently and others through regular college searches, that the best way to do this is find a handful of schools that you think fit your daughter academically, socially and from a lax point of view. Do it just like you would with a non athlete. Put together a list of stretch, match and safety schools. It's a little more complicated in that one school might be a stretch for lax, but a match academically, as well as the other way around. So I would find a few in each category and start focusing in on those schools. Attend as many on campus clinics/camps as geographically and financially feasible. If you have crafted the list well, several of those situations will pay off. No money towards these other "recruiting camps" unless you have it to burn and you think your daughter will just "enjoy the experience".

The other point I would highlight is to try to get someone with influence (club coach, high school coach, former player) to help place your daughter in a top group at the college camp. If it is one of the bigger ones, there are definitely two tiers. One is for the "real" recruits, and the rest is for making money. If your daughter isn't in the group with the coaches from the target school, it probably also is a waste of time.

My 2 cents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/07/16 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did anyone go to that thing in PA last weekend? If you did - how was it? Did a lot of coaches show up?
Or should we just hold on to our money.



Hold on to your money if what you are asking is: Is it worth it from a recruiting point of view?


Yes, I'm wondering if it's worth it. And also wondering if we made a mistake. My daughter applied and was invited then changed her mind because her two BFF's have parents who are a little quicker on the up-take than I am and opted out. We therefore opted out. I was wondering if it was the right decision. From what I have heard so far - it was not impressive and did not meet the hype. Is that true? I don't think we will need to attend one of these next year.


These things are a waste, generally speaking, from a recruiting point of view. I strongly believe, having had one kid go through the lax recruiting process recently and others through regular college searches, that the best way to do this is find a handful of schools that you think fit your daughter academically, socially and from a lax point of view. Do it just like you would with a non athlete. Put together a list of stretch, match and safety schools. It's a little more complicated in that one school might be a stretch for lax, but a match academically, as well as the other way around. So I would find a few in each category and start focusing in on those schools. Attend as many on campus clinics/camps as geographically and financially feasible. If you have crafted the list well, several of those situations will pay off. No money towards these other "recruiting camps" unless you have it to burn and you think your daughter will just "enjoy the experience".

The other point I would highlight is to try to get someone with influence (club coach, high school coach, former player) to help place your daughter in a top group at the college camp. If it is one of the bigger ones, there are definitely two tiers. One is for the "real" recruits, and the rest is for making money. If your daughter isn't in the group with the coaches from the target school, it probably also is a waste of time.

My 2 cents.
The Elite 120 is worth it in my opinion. My daughter is committed to a top 10 program and that is where she was first noticed by several schools in January of her freshman year. Well attended by coaches, established now, and top players attending for the most part (if they have not already committed).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/07/16 08:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did anyone go to that thing in PA last weekend? If you did - how was it? Did a lot of coaches show up?
Or should we just hold on to our money.



Hold on to your money if what you are asking is: Is it worth it from a recruiting point of view?


Yes, I'm wondering if it's worth it. And also wondering if we made a mistake. My daughter applied and was invited then changed her mind because her two BFF's have parents who are a little quicker on the up-take than I am and opted out. We therefore opted out. I was wondering if it was the right decision. From what I have heard so far - it was not impressive and did not meet the hype. Is that true? I don't think we will need to attend one of these next year.


These things are a waste, generally speaking, from a recruiting point of view. I strongly believe, having had one kid go through the lax recruiting process recently and others through regular college searches, that the best way to do this is find a handful of schools that you think fit your daughter academically, socially and from a lax point of view. Do it just like you would with a non athlete. Put together a list of stretch, match and safety schools. It's a little more complicated in that one school might be a stretch for lax, but a match academically, as well as the other way around. So I would find a few in each category and start focusing in on those schools. Attend as many on campus clinics/camps as geographically and financially feasible. If you have crafted the list well, several of those situations will pay off. No money towards these other "recruiting camps" unless you have it to burn and you think your daughter will just "enjoy the experience".

The other point I would highlight is to try to get someone with influence (club coach, high school coach, former player) to help place your daughter in a top group at the college camp. If it is one of the bigger ones, there are definitely two tiers. One is for the "real" recruits, and the rest is for making money. If your daughter isn't in the group with the coaches from the target school, it probably also is a waste of time.

My 2 cents.
The Elite 120 is worth it in my opinion. My daughter is committed to a top 10 program and that is where she was first noticed by several schools in January of her freshman year. Well attended by coaches, established now, and top players attending for the most part (if they have not already committed).


Fair enough. That's why I said generally. I think most are not worth it. And while there will be anecdotes of "success stories" from these events, the hit rate I believe is quite low. I think you have a much better percentage return on money spent going the route I suggested in my last post. It certainly is not to say that it is the only way to do it. If you have a harder time figuring out the target schools and are taking a more "shotgun" approach to the process, then these larger recruiting events may have more value as well I suppose.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/07/16 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did anyone go to that thing in PA last weekend? If you did - how was it? Did a lot of coaches show up?
Or should we just hold on to our money.



Hold on to your money if what you are asking is: Is it worth it from a recruiting point of view?


Yes, I'm wondering if it's worth it. And also wondering if we made a mistake. My daughter applied and was invited then changed her mind because her two BFF's have parents who are a little quicker on the up-take than I am and opted out. We therefore opted out. I was wondering if it was the right decision. From what I have heard so far - it was not impressive and did not meet the hype. Is that true? I don't think we will need to attend one of these next year.


These things are a waste, generally speaking, from a recruiting point of view. I strongly believe, having had one kid go through the lax recruiting process recently and others through regular college searches, that the best way to do this is find a handful of schools that you think fit your daughter academically, socially and from a lax point of view. Do it just like you would with a non athlete. Put together a list of stretch, match and safety schools. It's a little more complicated in that one school might be a stretch for lax, but a match academically, as well as the other way around. So I would find a few in each category and start focusing in on those schools. Attend as many on campus clinics/camps as geographically and financially feasible. If you have crafted the list well, several of those situations will pay off. No money towards these other "recruiting camps" unless you have it to burn and you think your daughter will just "enjoy the experience".

The other point I would highlight is to try to get someone with influence (club coach, high school coach, former player) to help place your daughter in a top group at the college camp. If it is one of the bigger ones, there are definitely two tiers. One is for the "real" recruits, and the rest is for making money. If your daughter isn't in the group with the coaches from the target school, it probably also is a waste of time.

My 2 cents.
The Elite 120 is worth it in my opinion. My daughter is committed to a top 10 program and that is where she was first noticed by several schools in January of her freshman year. Well attended by coaches, established now, and top players attending for the most part (if they have not already committed).


I'll bet since she is a strong enough player to commit to a top 10 program, she didn't need to be at the elite 120 to be noticed. My bet is she could have ended up in the same place having not spent the money on Elite 120. Not saying it was a waste of money, but I don't think it is the reason your daughter ended up where she did.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/07/16 10:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did anyone go to that thing in PA last weekend? If you did - how was it? Did a lot of coaches show up?
Or should we just hold on to our money.



Hold on to your money if what you are asking is: Is it worth it from a recruiting point of view?


Yes, I'm wondering if it's worth it. And also wondering if we made a mistake. My daughter applied and was invited then changed her mind because her two BFF's have parents who are a little quicker on the up-take than I am and opted out. We therefore opted out. I was wondering if it was the right decision. From what I have heard so far - it was not impressive and did not meet the hype. Is that true? I don't think we will need to attend one of these next year.


These things are a waste, generally speaking, from a recruiting point of view. I strongly believe, having had one kid go through the lax recruiting process recently and others through regular college searches, that the best way to do this is find a handful of schools that you think fit your daughter academically, socially and from a lax point of view. Do it just like you would with a non athlete. Put together a list of stretch, match and safety schools. It's a little more complicated in that one school might be a stretch for lax, but a match academically, as well as the other way around. So I would find a few in each category and start focusing in on those schools. Attend as many on campus clinics/camps as geographically and financially feasible. If you have crafted the list well, several of those situations will pay off. No money towards these other "recruiting camps" unless you have it to burn and you think your daughter will just "enjoy the experience".

The other point I would highlight is to try to get someone with influence (club coach, high school coach, former player) to help place your daughter in a top group at the college camp. If it is one of the bigger ones, there are definitely two tiers. One is for the "real" recruits, and the rest is for making money. If your daughter isn't in the group with the coaches from the target school, it probably also is a waste of time.

My 2 cents.
The Elite 120 is worth it in my opinion. My daughter is committed to a top 10 program and that is where she was first noticed by several schools in January of her freshman year. Well attended by coaches, established now, and top players attending for the most part (if they have not already committed).


I'll bet since she is a strong enough player to commit to a top 10 program, she didn't need to be at the elite 120 to be noticed. My bet is she could have ended up in the same place having not spent the money on Elite 120. Not saying it was a waste of money, but I don't think it is the reason your daughter ended up where she did.
To be honest, that is probably true. I do agree with most of the original post and as that posted stated, there is no one route. Be targeted and bottom line the kid has to play well consistently and be very athletic which seems to be the biggest common denominator in who gets recruited.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/08/16 03:25 AM
Every girl has a different path. To say one way is definitively better makes you sound foolish. We chose the wait and see who is interested first method and went to ua and going to 120. Although basically ready to decide, we never traveled to all the camps because there was no way to know if they were even interested. We wanted to visit schools that were interested and also fit for academics and lax. Different strokes for different folks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/08/16 10:00 PM
Dave DELETED

I have no issue with your feelings until you drag the kids into it!!

Knock it off, idiot!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/09/16 02:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Every girl has a different path. To say one way is definitively better makes you sound foolish. We chose the wait and see who is interested first method and went to ua and going to 120. Although basically ready to decide, we never traveled to all the camps because there was no way to know if they were even interested. We wanted to visit schools that were interested and also fit for academics and lax. Different strokes for different folks.


I'm sure I'm foolish because my wife says I'm an idiot several times a day. I didn't say there was a "definitively better way". I did say that, in my opinion ("my two cents" means that from a fool), approaching the challenge of recruiting in much the same way as a "regular" college search makes sense. You can do whatever you want, that's the beauty of a free country.

Basically ready to decide what?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/18/16 08:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about top team here top team there. Is your daughter happy? People who come on here and chest pump are usually the ones who never played and are living through their kids. My daughter has been with Elevate for 2 yrs now and I wouldn't change a thing. Folks there's a bigger picture out there then everyone fighting about who's team is the best.


Can I ask for some examples of why your so happy? Many people post how great and happy they are but never offer any specifics.
Did you start with this club or move from another and have something to compare it to?


We were told when we joined Elevate, they had a lot of year round training and were in winter leagues, etc. There is nothing and I mean nothing. the only time you see anything they do in the off season is on social media when DK posts a picture of him and 5 kids off somewhere you we weren't asked to go. This club has been a huge disappointment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/18/16 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about top team here top team there. Is your daughter happy? People who come on here and chest pump are usually the ones who never played and are living through their kids. My daughter has been with Elevate for 2 yrs now and I wouldn't change a thing. Folks there's a bigger picture out there then everyone fighting about who's team is the best.


Can I ask for some examples of why your so happy? Many people post how great and happy they are but never offer any specifics.
Did you start with this club or move from another and have something to compare it to?


We were told when we joined Elevate, they had a lot of year round training and were in winter leagues, etc. There is nothing and I mean nothing. the only time you see anything they do in the off season is on social media when DK posts a picture of him and 5 kids off somewhere you we weren't asked to go. This club has been a huge disappointment.


We hear nothing from Elevate any more. There is little or no communication. We asked about opportunities but heard nothing. We are looking into opportunities with other clubs for clinics and leagues especially with season starting in the not so distance future.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/18/16 10:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about top team here top team there. Is your daughter happy? People who come on here and chest pump are usually the ones who never played and are living through their kids. My daughter has been with Elevate for 2 yrs now and I wouldn't change a thing. Folks there's a bigger picture out there then everyone fighting about who's team is the best.


Can I ask for some examples of why your so happy? Many people post how great and happy they are but never offer any specifics.
Did you start with this club or move from another and have something to compare it to?


We were told when we joined Elevate, they had a lot of year round training and were in winter leagues, etc. There is nothing and I mean nothing. the only time you see anything they do in the off season is on social media when DK posts a picture of him and 5 kids off somewhere you we weren't asked to go. This club has been a huge disappointment.


We hear nothing from Elevate any more. There is little or no communication. We asked about opportunities but heard nothing. We are looking into opportunities with other clubs for clinics and leagues especially with season starting in the not so distance future.


I don't think this is just Elevate and we are not with this club so can't comment on what you were promised but I have yet to hear about any club that offers true year round playing? Sure all the clubs offer clinics but they are mostly geared toward the younger players. As far as winter leagues, they seem to be very hit or miss and mostly miss! I think part of the problem is it's very expensive to rent quality indoor space and if there isnt enough demand and clubs can't make enough money they won't do it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/19/16 12:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about top team here top team there. Is your daughter happy? People who come on here and chest pump are usually the ones who never played and are living through their kids. My daughter has been with Elevate for 2 yrs now and I wouldn't change a thing. Folks there's a bigger picture out there then everyone fighting about who's team is the best.


Can I ask for some examples of why your so happy? Many people post how great and happy they are but never offer any specifics.
Did you start with this club or move from another and have something to compare it to?


We were told when we joined Elevate, they had a lot of year round training and were in winter leagues, etc. There is nothing and I mean nothing. the only time you see anything they do in the off season is on social media when DK posts a picture of him and 5 kids off somewhere you we weren't asked to go. This club has been a huge disappointment.


We hear nothing from Elevate any more. There is little or no communication. We asked about opportunities but heard nothing. We are looking into opportunities with other clubs for clinics and leagues especially with season starting in the not so distance future.


Call around to other clubs they would be happy to have you play for them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/19/16 03:40 PM
How does Elevate compare to Others ?
The cost is 2200.00 per season and that just pays for tournament fee's. No winter clinics, no indoor leagues -

Why is it so much money ???

Do the math - TEAM ELEVATE is making a LOT of money on selling little girls a dream of playing college sports. ITS A CRIME !!!








Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/19/16 04:33 PM
By far and away, no fan of Dave K.--in fact, I KNOW he is a certified crook..but, their costs are prob right in line with most/all clubs nowadays...we play with Another club and they charge slightly less but do get winter practices...but hey, I am DK will make it up to you somehow...and he does have a lot of followers on FaceBook so that must be worth it, right?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/20/16 09:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How does Elevate compare to Others ?
The cost is 2200.00 per season and that just pays for tournament fee's. No winter clinics, no indoor leagues -

Why is it so much money ???

Do the math - TEAM ELEVATE is making a LOT of money on selling little girls a dream of playing college sports. ITS A CRIME !!!

WE ARE FAMILY !







Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/21/16 12:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about top team here top team there. Is your daughter happy? People who come on here and chest pump are usually the ones who never played and are living through their kids. My daughter has been with Elevate for 2 yrs now and I wouldn't change a thing. Folks there's a bigger picture out there then everyone fighting about who's team is the best.


Can I ask for some examples of why your so happy? Many people post how great and happy they are but never offer any specifics.
Did you start with this club or move from another and have something to compare it to?


We were told when we joined Elevate, they had a lot of year round training and were in winter leagues, etc. There is nothing and I mean nothing. the only time you see anything they do in the off season is on social media when DK posts a picture of him and 5 kids off somewhere you we weren't asked to go. This club has been a huge disappointment.


We hear nothing from Elevate any more. There is little or no communication. We asked about opportunities but heard nothing. We are looking into opportunities with other clubs for clinics and leagues especially with season starting in the not so distance future.


I think the fact that you are hearing nothing from elevate is due to the fact that the administrators who were running the club both left. Many coaches have left as well. We don't even know who our daughters coach will be this summer. I know many coaches listed on the elevate website are no longer there. We too are concerned about the summer and disappointed that the entire off season has been a bust. We had better expectations based on last year and what we were told this year. No winter clinics, no leagues, etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/22/16 10:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares about top team here top team there. Is your daughter happy? People who come on here and chest pump are usually the ones who never played and are living through their kids. My daughter has been with Elevate for 2 yrs now and I wouldn't change a thing. Folks there's a bigger picture out there then everyone fighting about who's team is the best.


Can I ask for some examples of why your so happy? Many people post how great and happy they are but never offer any specifics.
Did you start with this club or move from another and have something to compare it to?


We were told when we joined Elevate, they had a lot of year round training and were in winter leagues, etc. There is nothing and I mean nothing. the only time you see anything they do in the off season is on social media when DK posts a picture of him and 5 kids off somewhere you we weren't asked to go. This club has been a huge disappointment.


We hear nothing from Elevate any more. There is little or no communication. We asked about opportunities but heard nothing. We are looking into opportunities with other clubs for clinics and leagues especially with season starting in the not so distance future.


I think the fact that you are hearing nothing from elevate is due to the fact that the administrators who were running the club both left. Many coaches have left as well. We don't even know who our daughters coach will be this summer. I know many coaches listed on the elevate website are no longer there. We too are concerned about the summer and disappointed that the entire off season has been a bust. We had better expectations based on last year and what we were told this year. No winter clinics, no leagues, etc.


Here's a suggestion, if your not happy leave but truth is its no better anyplace else.
Winter leagues - there are none to join. You want to train, get a bunch of your daughters friends of equal ability and or teammates and find a good trainer to do a small group lesson. There's no silver bullet out there and many of the top kids are training year round. The difference is they are not sitting home waiting for a tweet or email from the club director.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/22/16 11:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about top team here top team there. Is your daughter happy? People who come on here and chest pump are usually the ones who never played and are living through their kids. My daughter has been with Elevate for 2 yrs now and I wouldn't change a thing. Folks there's a bigger picture out there then everyone fighting about who's team is the best.


Can I ask for some examples of why your so happy? Many people post how great and happy they are but never offer any specifics.
Did you start with this club or move from another and have something to compare it to?


We hear nothing from Elevate any more. There is little or no communication. We asked about opportunities but heard nothing. We are looking into opportunities with other clubs for clinics and leagues especially with season starting in the not so distance future.


I think the fact that you are hearing nothing from elevate is due to the fact that the administrators who were running the club both left. Many coaches have left as well. We don't even know who our daughters coach will be this summer. I know many coaches listed on the elevate website are no longer there. We too are concerned about the summer and disappointed that the entire off season has been a bust. We had better expectations based on last year and what we were told this year. No winter clinics, no leagues, etc.


Here's a suggestion, if your not happy leave but truth is its no better anyplace else.
Winter leagues - there are none to join. You want to train, get a bunch of your daughters friends of equal ability and or teammates and find a good trainer to do a small group lesson. There's no silver bullet out there and many of the top kids are training year round. The difference is they are not sitting home waiting for a tweet or email from the club director.


Here's another suggestion, don;t believe all the BS that these people post. So much of the stuff on here is complete BS from disgruntled parents who never played the game and are now living through their children's lacrosse lives. It amazes me how "caught up" these people are. Go out and have a catch with your own kid - even if you have to use a baseball/softball glove because you never played.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/23/16 01:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about top team here top team there. Is your daughter happy? People who come on here and chest pump are usually the ones who never played and are living through their kids. My daughter has been with Elevate for 2 yrs now and I wouldn't change a thing. Folks there's a bigger picture out there then everyone fighting about who's team is the best.


Can I ask for some examples of why your so happy? Many people post how great and happy they are but never offer any specifics.
Did you start with this club or move from another and have something to compare it to?


We hear nothing from Elevate any more. There is little or no communication. We asked about opportunities but heard nothing. We are looking into opportunities with other clubs for clinics and leagues especially with season starting in the not so distance future.


I think the fact that you are hearing nothing from elevate is due to the fact that the administrators who were running the club both left. Many coaches have left as well. We don't even know who our daughters coach will be this summer. I know many coaches listed on the elevate website are no longer there. We too are concerned about the summer and disappointed that the entire off season has been a bust. We had better expectations based on last year and what we were told this year. No winter clinics, no leagues, etc.


Here's a suggestion, if your not happy leave but truth is its no better anyplace else.
Winter leagues - there are none to join. You want to train, get a bunch of your daughters friends of equal ability and or teammates and find a good trainer to do a small group lesson. There's no silver bullet out there and many of the top kids are training year round. The difference is they are not sitting home waiting for a tweet or email from the club director.


Here's another suggestion, don;t believe all the BS that these people post. So much of the stuff on here is complete BS from disgruntled parents who never played the game and are now living through their children's lacrosse lives. It amazes me how "caught up" these people are. Go out and have a catch with your own kid - even if you have to use a baseball/softball glove because you never played.
Wow, how profound
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/23/16 04:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Who cares about top team here top team there. Is your daughter happy? People who come on here and chest pump are usually the ones who never played and are living through their kids. My daughter has been with Elevate for 2 yrs now and I wouldn't change a thing. Folks there's a bigger picture out there then everyone fighting about who's team is the best.


Can I ask for some examples of why your so happy? Many people post how great and happy they are but never offer any specifics.
Did you start with this club or move from another and have something to compare it to?


We hear nothing from Elevate any more. There is little or no communication. We asked about opportunities but heard nothing. We are looking into opportunities with other clubs for clinics and leagues especially with season starting in the not so distance future.


I think the fact that you are hearing nothing from elevate is due to the fact that the administrators who were running the club both left. Many coaches have left as well. We don't even know who our daughters coach will be this summer. I know many coaches listed on the elevate website are no longer there. We too are concerned about the summer and disappointed that the entire off season has been a bust. We had better expectations based on last year and what we were told this year. No winter clinics, no leagues, etc.


Here's a suggestion, if your not happy leave but truth is its no better anyplace else.
Winter leagues - there are none to join. You want to train, get a bunch of your daughters friends of equal ability and or teammates and find a good trainer to do a small group lesson. There's no silver bullet out there and many of the top kids are training year round. The difference is they are not sitting home waiting for a tweet or email from the club director.


Here's another suggestion, don;t believe all the BS that these people post. So much of the stuff on here is complete BS from disgruntled parents who never played the game and are now living through their children's lacrosse lives. It amazes me how "caught up" these people are. Go out and have a catch with your own kid - even if you have to use a baseball/softball glove because you never played.


Just to clarify, which information about Elevate are you calling BS?
1) that there are no winter leagues/clinics?
2) that directors and coaches have left?
3) that the club has lost access to the Sports Hub for indoor training?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/25/16 03:27 PM
or that Elevate lost access to CSH school fields because DK was running a biz on taxpayer dime?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/25/16 03:40 PM
Impressive you know all the Dave k facts I'm surprised he is still around
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/25/16 06:14 PM
kool aid will run out soon...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/25/16 06:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
kool aid will run out soon...


I agree. I think elevate has been exposed for what it is. I think that people have figured this out and will move on. The few people I know that are left at elevate are not happy and looking at all of their options.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/25/16 09:18 PM
Not happy about what? You people are starting to have myself second guess staying with this program? Why such hate? My experience has been good. DK works with the girls real well. What do you want him to do? Only thing I don't like are parent coaches that's it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/26/16 01:01 AM
You are new to elevate we were happy once I wish I left sooner than I did Dave cannot be trusted he will lie straight to your face and put your money in his pocketI do not really like saying bad things about people but I don't want other girls getting blindsided by Dave. I should have left sooner. There are a lot of honest travel teams on Long Island that really care about the girls look for them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/26/16 12:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are new to elevate we were happy once I wish I left sooner than I did Dave cannot be trusted he will lie straight to your face and put your money in his pocketI do not really like saying bad things about people but I don't want other girls getting blindsided by Dave. I should have left sooner. There are a lot of honest travel teams on Long Island that really care about the girls look for them

Really?? Can you please tell me where the Honest Travel Teams are? I think every team I know of is bashed on here. Is YJ, TG, TE, 91, Express honest? Every one of them is bashed terribly on this site and all their directors should be in jail according to posters.
It is a free market, if you are not happy, move on. But buyer beware. Do your research.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/26/16 04:34 PM
Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls smile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/26/16 10:52 PM
I could not have said it better myself. Dave k preaches bs and lies straight to your face any club is better than ekevate
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/26/16 11:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls smile


Your post sounds too rationale to call BS. Sounds like you weren't happy, moved on and seem better off. I think everyone's experience and expectations are different and maybe some just don't know any better?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/27/16 11:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls smile

Sounds like an honest, non-bomb throwing assessment. We are making a move for my younger daughter next year if things don't improve with her current team, and (if you feel comfortable with it) could you share what team you chose that is better than Elevate? (If not, I understand not wanting to create a SH*& storm on the thread). I was looking into Elevate, YJ or maybe Legacy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/27/16 12:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls smile

Sounds like an honest, non-bomb throwing assessment. We are making a move for my younger daughter next year if things don't improve with her current team, and (if you feel comfortable with it) could you share what team you chose that is better than Elevate? (If not, I understand not wanting to create a SH*& storm on the thread). I was looking into Elevate, YJ or maybe Legacy.


Every club charges extra for clinics, their end-of-year club-wide parties and clinics. Not sure why Elevate is being singled out. Do you think YJ runs their weekend clinics or mid-week leagues for free? No. Those activities are all optional and "extras". What is wrong with you people? Do you give away your services for free? I am in healthcare...dont give away my expertise for free. Do mechanics fix your car for free? Do teachers tutor for free? NO. I have been to this rodeo before with two different clubs....they are all essentially the same. This is their business and it is treated as such. Get real.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/27/16 03:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls smile

Sounds like an honest, non-bomb throwing assessment. We are making a move for my younger daughter next year if things don't improve with her current team, and (if you feel comfortable with it) could you share what team you chose that is better than Elevate? (If not, I understand not wanting to create a SH*& storm on the thread). I was looking into Elevate, YJ or maybe Legacy.


Every club charges extra for clinics, their end-of-year club-wide parties and clinics. Not sure why Elevate is being singled out. Do you think YJ runs their weekend clinics or mid-week leagues for free? No. Those activities are all optional and "extras". What is wrong with you people? Do you give away your services for free? I am in healthcare...dont give away my expertise for free. Do mechanics fix your car for free? Do teachers tutor for free? NO. I have been to this rodeo before with two different clubs....they are all essentially the same. This is their business and it is treated as such. Get real.


You are correct about everyone charging for the extras. However when Dave started his own team after leaving Express he bashed that club to anyone who would listen. Fast forward to today and Elevate has become everything he was.criticizing his daughter's former team and YJ's for being. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/27/16 03:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls smile

Sounds like an honest, non-bomb throwing assessment. We are making a move for my younger daughter next year if things don't improve with her current team, and (if you feel comfortable with it) could you share what team you chose that is better than Elevate? (If not, I understand not wanting to create a SH*& storm on the thread). I was looking into Elevate, YJ or maybe Legacy.


Every club charges extra for clinics, their end-of-year club-wide parties and clinics. Not sure why Elevate is being singled out. Do you think YJ runs their weekend clinics or mid-week leagues for free? No. Those activities are all optional and "extras". What is wrong with you people? Do you give away your services for free? I am in healthcare...dont give away my expertise for free. Do mechanics fix your car for free? Do teachers tutor for free? NO. I have been to this rodeo before with two different clubs....they are all essentially the same. This is their business and it is treated as such. Get real.


I think you are spot on and if you ask two people at the same club their opinion you will get two different answers. I think it also depends on what team you are on within the club. Most of the unhappy people are not on the top teams or were former top team players that got demoted. I would also venture that many of the unhappy parents don't have a realistic view of their childs ability and as badly as they want the next superstar for many it's not in the cards.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/27/16 05:16 PM
Dk took a 1000 dollars from me and will not give a refund. He said the money is non-refundable !
Can I sue him in small claims court ?
Is Elevate a corporation or a non-profit ?
I checked the NYS corp website and its not listed ?

Does anyone have information that may help?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/27/16 05:44 PM
We should take a class action suit he took money from me as well
Not for anything and DK and I are not "special" friends as many of you think BUT, you guys call him out by name and yet you remain nameless. How much credibility do you think you deserve? In my book, unless you sign your name to each and everything you write, you are nothing but a troll and can spew all of the bull you want. That is just not even odds.. Just sayin!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/27/16 06:43 PM
i would hope that requirement would go for ANY director mentioned by name....so Shannon Smith will get the same treatment?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
i would hope that requirement would go for ANY director mentioned by name....so Shannon Smith will get the same treatment?


I gave those trolls no credibility either and personally think that situation was a bunch of loose cannon entitled parents. Again, throw out someone's name and add yours too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/28/16 07:28 PM
Question. And yes there is no "right" answer. But if your daughter could likely see the field at any college lax program in the country, where would you want her to attend?

I know everyone can answer "wherever the best fit is ... wherever she is comfortable ... wherever she'd be happy if lax weren't in the equation etc."

Putting aside those boiler plate answers, pick a school. Would it have the balance of a potential National Championship and great academics, would it have the absolute best academics with likely no/small chance at winning it all? Would it be best lax program bar none? Just curious.

My daughter likely doesn't have this luxury, but I was just curious what people think.

I think I would say Duke, Northwestern ...but then I think, could you really say no to Princeton, Stanford or Harvard? And then I wonder what the awesome experience at a Maryland or UNC must be like for those girls and I go in circles.

What do you say?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/28/16 07:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question. And yes there is no "right" answer. But if your daughter could likely see the field at any college lax program in the country, where would you want her to attend?

I know everyone can answer "wherever the best fit is ... wherever she is comfortable ... wherever she'd be happy if lax weren't in the equation etc."

Putting aside those boiler plate answers, pick a school. Would it have the balance of a potential National Championship and great academics, would it have the absolute best academics with likely no/small chance at winning it all? Would it be best lax program bar none? Just curious.

My daughter likely doesn't have this luxury, but I was just curious what people think.

I think I would say Duke, Northwestern ...but then I think, could you really say no to Princeton, Stanford or Harvard? And then I wonder what the awesome experience at a Maryland or UNC must be like for those girls and I go in circles.

What do you say?


I would say it's not your decision...it is your daughters. Visit the school multiple times and have her make the choice. All the schools mentioned are great, but it has to be the right fit for your daughter athletically and more important academically. Let's not forget socially either, the feel and the atmosphere has to feel right for her. She can visit many times before making a decision. Good luck to her!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/28/16 07:59 PM
USC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/28/16 08:24 PM
I second that
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/28/16 09:14 PM
If I could've picked For my daughter I think I would've been happy if a school like Rollins offered her and she picked them. D2, Florida, high academics. As it turned out she picked a D1 school in the CAA. But, I think a high academic D2 school is an almost perfect situation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/28/16 09:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question. And yes there is no "right" answer. But if your daughter could likely see the field at any college lax program in the country, where would you want her to attend?

I know everyone can answer "wherever the best fit is ... wherever she is comfortable ... wherever she'd be happy if lax weren't in the equation etc."

Putting aside those boiler plate answers, pick a school. Would it have the balance of a potential National Championship and great academics, would it have the absolute best academics with likely no/small chance at winning it all? Would it be best lax program bar none? Just curious.

My daughter likely doesn't have this luxury, but I was just curious what people think.

I think I would say Duke, Northwestern ...but then I think, could you really say no to Princeton, Stanford or Harvard? And then I wonder what the awesome experience at a Maryland or UNC must be like for those girls and I go in circles.

What do you say?


I would say it's not your decision...it is your daughters. Visit the school multiple times and have her make the choice. All the schools mentioned are great, but it has to be the right fit for your daughter athletically and more important academically. Let's not forget socially either, the feel and the atmosphere has to feel right for her. She can visit many times before making a decision. Good luck to her!


You're an [lacrosse]. if you think for a minute you have no part in the decision you are wrong. You still paying! It has to be a good fit for the person yes but the poster clearly asks put all of those in a vacuum answers away and give an answer.

STAN UNC DUKE USC (warm weather for us). Notre Dame Any Ivy Lousiville.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 12:22 AM
Jj
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls smile


I am most curious what club you moved to. It seems you are happy now and so this is good information to know. Thankyou.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 12:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question. And yes there is no "right" answer. But if your daughter could likely see the field at any college lax program in the country, where would you want her to attend?

I know everyone can answer "wherever the best fit is ... wherever she is comfortable ... wherever she'd be happy if lax weren't in the equation etc."

Putting aside those boiler plate answers, pick a school. Would it have the balance of a potential National Championship and great academics, would it have the absolute best academics with likely no/small chance at winning it all? Would it be best lax program bar none? Just curious.

My daughter likely doesn't have this luxury, but I was just curious what people think.

I think I would say Duke, Northwestern ...but then I think, could you really say no to Princeton, Stanford or Harvard? And then I wonder what the awesome experience at a Maryland or UNC must be like for those girls and I go in circles.

What do you say?


I would say it's not your decision...it is your daughters. Visit the school multiple times and have her make the choice. All the schools mentioned are great, but it has to be the right fit for your daughter athletically and more important academically. Let's not forget socially either, the feel and the atmosphere has to feel right for her. She can visit many times before making a decision. Good luck to her!


You're an [lacrosse]. if you think for a minute you have no part in the decision you are wrong. You still paying! It has to be a good fit for the person yes but the poster clearly asks put all of those in a vacuum answers away and give an answer.

STAN UNC DUKE USC (warm weather for us). Notre Dame Any Ivy Lousiville.


3 USC's and a Stanford. Sounds like Cali is on the rise. Interesting that no one has picked Northwestern yet. Is it weather? Or do you think the Amonte magic is gone?

I enjoy a discussion like this much more than the nasty stuff. Anyone with daughters at any of these places? What's the actual experience?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 01:17 AM
Weather, big time sports, and a program on the rise
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Weather, big time sports, and a program on the rise


And "straight outa Compton"!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 12:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dk took a 1000 dollars from me and will not give a refund. He said the money is non-refundable !
Can I sue him in small claims court ?
Is Elevate a corporation or a non-profit ?
I checked the NYS corp website and its not listed ?

Does anyone have information that may help?


Is it true DK was hired to coach a HS team? If so, does that mean he can no longer hang around our HS games and berate the coaches and program? Any truth to this?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 02:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Weather, big time sports, and a program on the rise


And "straight outa Compton"!


Liberal nirvana.......and on other side of country. No thanks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question. And yes there is no "right" answer. But if your daughter could likely see the field at any college lax program in the country, where would you want her to attend?

I know everyone can answer "wherever the best fit is ... wherever she is comfortable ... wherever she'd be happy if lax weren't in the equation etc."

Putting aside those boiler plate answers, pick a school. Would it have the balance of a potential National Championship and great academics, would it have the absolute best academics with likely no/small chance at winning it all? Would it be best lax program bar none? Just curious.

My daughter likely doesn't have this luxury, but I was just curious what people think.

I think I would say Duke, Northwestern ...but then I think, could you really say no to Princeton, Stanford or Harvard? And then I wonder what the awesome experience at a Maryland or UNC must be like for those girls and I go in circles.

What do you say?


I would say it's not your decision...it is your daughters. Visit the school multiple times and have her make the choice. All the schools mentioned are great, but it has to be the right fit for your daughter athletically and more important academically. Let's not forget socially either, the feel and the atmosphere has to feel right for her. She can visit many times before making a decision. Good luck to her!


You're an [lacrosse]. if you think for a minute you have no part in the decision you are wrong. You still paying! It has to be a good fit for the person yes but the poster clearly asks put all of those in a vacuum answers away and give an answer.

STAN UNC DUKE USC (warm weather for us). Notre Dame Any Ivy Lousiville.


3 USC's and a Stanford. Sounds like Cali is on the rise. Interesting that no one has picked Northwestern yet. Is it weather? Or do you think the Amonte magic is gone?

I enjoy a discussion like this much more than the nasty stuff. Anyone with daughters at any of these places? What's the actual experience?


Other programs have caught up and Northwestern has a reputation of only allowing girls to take certain majors and the weather is chilly!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 05:31 PM
Doubtful that a school district would hire DK
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 05:37 PM
UNC, no brainer

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 05:46 PM
Holy trinity in hicshvilke
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 05:47 PM
Holy Trinity just did
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 05:57 PM
Girls or boys lax?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 06:16 PM
they will regret that hire soon enough!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 06:33 PM
Head Coach for Girls Varsity???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 07:50 PM
they churn through coaches pretty quick. They don't pay and all the athletes are at the other catholics
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 08:12 PM
if true.... if anyone can sell a program, its DK so for that purpose alone, its a home run for Holy Trinity...works for him too as he will get full use of a private school facility to run Elevate and his various $$programs...if it were a public school, he would have problems getting facility for his exclusive use...nice work, DK
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 11:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
if true.... if anyone can sell a program, its DK so for that purpose alone, its a home run for Holy Trinity...works for him too as he will get full use of a private school facility to run Elevate and his various $$programs...if it were a public school, he would have problems getting facility for his exclusive use...nice work, DK


And add on the $$$$s he will make from the HT kids that will join Elevate so they get playing time at HT. Money, money, money! He could take that job for free just given the fields they will give him for elevate which he will make money off of and the additional kids that will join elevate.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 01/29/16 11:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question. And yes there is no "right" answer. But if your daughter could likely see the field at any college lax program in the country, where would you want her to attend?

I know everyone can answer "wherever the best fit is ... wherever she is comfortable ... wherever she'd be happy if lax weren't in the equation etc."

Putting aside those boiler plate answers, pick a school. Would it have the balance of a potential National Championship and great academics, would it have the absolute best academics with likely no/small chance at winning it all? Would it be best lax program bar none? Just curious.

My daughter likely doesn't have this luxury, but I was just curious what people think.

I think I would say Duke, Northwestern ...but then I think, could you really say no to Princeton, Stanford or Harvard? And then I wonder what the awesome experience at a Maryland or UNC must be like for those girls and I go in circles.

What do you say?


I would say it's not your decision...it is your daughters. Visit the school multiple times and have her make the choice. All the schools mentioned are great, but it has to be the right fit for your daughter athletically and more important academically. Let's not forget socially either, the feel and the atmosphere has to feel right for her. She can visit many times before making a decision. Good luck to her!


You're an [lacrosse]. if you think for a minute you have no part in the decision you are wrong. You still paying! It has to be a good fit for the person yes but the poster clearly asks put all of those in a vacuum answers away and give an answer.

STAN UNC DUKE USC (warm weather for us). Notre Dame Any Ivy Lousiville.


3 USC's and a Stanford. Sounds like Cali is on the rise. Interesting that no one has picked Northwestern yet. Is it weather? Or do you think the Amonte magic is gone?

I enjoy a discussion like this much more than the nasty stuff. Anyone with daughters at any of these places? What's the actual experience?


Other programs have caught up and Northwestern has a reputation of only allowing girls to take certain majors and the weather is chilly!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question. And yes there is no "right" answer. But if your daughter could likely see the field at any college lax program in the country, where would you want her to attend?

I know everyone can answer "wherever the best fit is ... wherever she is comfortable ... wherever she'd be happy if lax weren't in the equation etc."

Putting aside those boiler plate answers, pick a school. Would it have the balance of a potential National Championship and great academics, would it have the absolute best academics with likely no/small chance at winning it all? Would it be best lax program bar none? Just curious.

My daughter likely doesn't have this luxury, but I was just curious what people think.

I think I would say Duke, Northwestern ...but then I think, could you really say no to Princeton, Stanford or Harvard? And then I wonder what the awesome experience at a Maryland or UNC must be like for those girls and I go in circles.

What do you say?


I would say it's not your decision...it is your daughters. Visit the school multiple times and have her make the choice. All the schools mentioned are great, but it has to be the right fit for your daughter athletically and more important academically. Let's not forget socially either, the feel and the atmosphere has to feel right for her. She can visit many times before making a decision. Good luck to her!


You're an [lacrosse]. if you think for a minute you have no part in the decision you are wrong. You still paying! It has to be a good fit for the person yes but the poster clearly asks put all of those in a vacuum answers away and give an answer.

STAN UNC DUKE USC (warm weather for us). Notre Dame Any Ivy Lousiville.


3 USC's and a Stanford. Sounds like Cali is on the rise. Interesting that no one has picked Northwestern yet. Is it weather? Or do you think the Amonte magic is gone?

I enjoy a discussion like this much more than the nasty stuff. Anyone with daughters at any of these places? What's the actual experience?


Other programs have caught up and Northwestern has a reputation of only allowing girls to take certain majors and the weather is chilly!


Roster majors don't seem to be that way ... See a few Pre-med and few engineers, including a player who started every game. Seems like most top places r like that. Just looked at Stanford too. Only a couple "real" majors there. Other than Ivies, who doesn't steer majors?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/02/16 10:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls smile

Sounds like an honest, non-bomb throwing assessment. We are making a move for my younger daughter next year if things don't improve with her current team, and (if you feel comfortable with it) could you share what team you chose that is better than Elevate? (If not, I understand not wanting to create a SH*& storm on the thread). I was looking into Elevate, YJ or maybe Legacy.
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Heard the Elevate college bus tour was like a mini van tour as there were no girls. Heard they had like 7 or 8 kids. That is a far cry from where they were 2 years ago. Amazing how far they have fallen!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/02/16 11:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls smile

Sounds like an honest, non-bomb throwing assessment. We are making a move for my younger daughter next year if things don't improve with her current team, and (if you feel comfortable with it) could you share what team you chose that is better than Elevate? (If not, I understand not wanting to create a SH*& storm on the thread). I was looking into Elevate, YJ or maybe Legacy.
0

Heard the Elevate college bus tour was like a mini van tour as there were no girls. Heard they had like 7 or 8 kids. That is a far cry from where they were 2 years ago. Amazing how far they have fallen!


Why do you care? Strange that you obsess about a group of girls going to vis it colleges. Worry about your own kids business!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/03/16 01:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls smile

Sounds like an honest, non-bomb throwing assessment. We are making a move for my younger daughter next year if things don't improve with her current team, and (if you feel comfortable with it) could you share what team you chose that is better than Elevate? (If not, I understand not wanting to create a SH*& storm on the thread). I was looking into Elevate, YJ or maybe Legacy.
0

Heard the Elevate college bus tour was like a mini van tour as there were no girls. Heard they had like 7 or 8 kids. That is a far cry from where they were 2 years ago. Amazing how far they have fallen!


Why do you care? Strange that you obsess about a group of girls going to vis it colleges. Worry about your own kids business!


Would have to agree, what does it matter to you? Don't play for elevate but I think that's a great idea and probably a lot of fun. Sounds like a great way to expose even younger age girls to college campuses. Not sure what your beef is with these guys but I think it's time to move on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/04/16 12:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls smile

Sounds like an honest, non-bomb throwing assessment. We are making a move for my younger daughter next year if things don't improve with her current team, and (if you feel comfortable with it) could you share what team you chose that is better than Elevate? (If not, I understand not wanting to create a SH*& storm on the thread). I was looking into Elevate, YJ or maybe Legacy.


Heard the Elevate college bus tour was like a mini van tour as there were no girls. Heard they had like 7 or 8 kids. That is a far cry from where they were 2 years ago. Amazing how far they have fallen!


Soooooo funny. I have a picture in my mind of DK pulling up with a few girls to a major college with the minivan all decked out in Elevate colors, bumper stickers and the Elevate logo on the side of the van. In all seriousness, a lot of people have dropped Elevate for various reasons. It will be a challenge to rebuild what they had a couple of years back. Not sure what changed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/04/16 02:12 PM
Karma. In life you get what you deserve
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/04/16 02:54 PM
Numbers are down everywhere in travel lacrosse. Seems to have peaked about 2 years ago. Parents are on to the next hot thing
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/04/16 03:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Numbers are down everywhere in travel lacrosse. Seems to have peaked about 2 years ago. Parents are on to the next hot thing


Not sure I would agree that overall numbers are down but there are more clubs and startups then ever before.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/04/16 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Numbers are down everywhere in travel lacrosse. Seems to have peaked about 2 years ago. Parents are on to the next hot thing


Not sure I would agree that overall numbers are down but there are more clubs and startups then ever before.


definitely a better more competitive landscape on LI a year or 2 ago
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/04/16 04:32 PM
Competitive on LI. Name one club from 17s down to 22s that can beat YJ ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/04/16 05:03 PM
Grrrr...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/04/16 09:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Numbers are down everywhere in travel lacrosse. Seems to have peaked about 2 years ago. Parents are on to the next hot thing


Not sure I would agree that overall numbers are down but there are more clubs and startups then ever before.


definitely a better more competitive landscape on LI a year or 2 ago


To clarify, I don't think the landscape on LI is more competitive than 2 years ago. I think the competition for business for directors of girls lax clubs is more competitive. I think the competition has been watered down. So clubs like Elevate are not only losing girls to other clubs like Icon, Legacy, Igloo, etc. who are new, but Elevate has to settle for less skilled players just to fill the rosters and keep the $$$$ coming in.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/05/16 04:21 PM
Name the top 5 2019 teams you have seen.

Here are mine:

M&D
Hero's
Skywalkers
Yellow Jackets
Mass Elite
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/05/16 08:36 PM
NO You are so wrong. Don't you Know it is

1)YJ 1
2)YJ 2
3)YJ 3
4)YJ 4

5) Everyone else

You clearly have not been paying attention
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/05/16 11:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
NO You are so wrong. Don't you Know it is

1)YJ 1
2)YJ 2
3)YJ 3
4)YJ 4

5) Everyone else

You clearly have not been paying attention


That's correct for Long Island, but poster is correct when you include the rest of the northeast.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/06/16 01:01 AM
Can't call it a fluke when they beat em back to back....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/11/16 07:47 PM
I would include Capital on this list. Best team in DMV and a number of commits already...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/11/16 09:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would include Capital on this list. Best team in DMV and a number of commits already...


Ok fair enough. Any others want to chime in?

Where would you slot Capital among the Maryland teams?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/11/16 10:12 PM
M&D
Capital
TLC or Skywalkers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/11/16 10:12 PM
Add Integrity Green to the list. I saw them play a little last summer and they are legit. Right on the heels of M&D and Heros. Very good team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 01:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
M&D
Capital
TLC or Skywalkers


no Heroes? I thought in the 2019s they were pretty strong.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 02:29 AM
Anyone out there that left their club but returned the following season?
We made a move this season but begining to regret our decision but concerned how we will we viewed if we want to return?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone out there that left their club but returned the following season?
We made a move this season but begining to regret our decision but concerned how we will we viewed if we want to return?


Why are you regretting your decision to leave?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 03:52 AM
Mnd
Heros
Yj
Sw
Integrity-capital-tlc. All the same

Anything different and you haven't watched the last two years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 03:54 AM
And I think I saw that heros dominated mnd at full strength at the end of last season. But not enough to get them into 1.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 03:56 AM
Capital is only some parent putting them in there. Good but not top 5. Let's be real. Got demolished by heros.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 10:23 AM
Something is going on at SW. Teams not as strong as in the past. I would remove them from this discussion. I would put Capital and SW and TLC behind Integrity.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 12:16 PM
Don't disagree w that. Integrity is very good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't disagree w that. Integrity is very good.


I'm throwing Mass Elite back in the mix. And before you bash me, my daughter plays for YJ. My guess would be that they are maybe only really strong at this age group, because my older daughter has played them before and it wasn't very close.

We played them at LFTC (we were down one of our better players but still) and they were impressive. We pulled out a 1 goal win in the last second.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 02:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't disagree w that. Integrity is very good.


I'm throwing Mass Elite back in the mix. And before you bash me, my daughter plays for YJ. My guess would be that they are maybe only really strong at this age group, because my older daughter has played them before and it wasn't very close.

We played them at LFTC (we were down one of our better players but still) and they were impressive. We pulled out a 1 goal win in the last second.


Appreciate you recognizing another team, but had to laugh that you couldn't get through it without throwing in the "missing one of our better players" excuse. On a 12 player team, one "better" player shouldn't make that much of a difference.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone out there that left their club but returned the following season?
We made a move this season but begining to regret our decision but concerned how we will we viewed if we want to return?


I would imagine it wouldn't be too difficult if you didn't burn any bridges when you left, but I have no experience with this.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 02:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't disagree w that. Integrity is very good.

but lost twice to TG last summer..so go figure
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't disagree w that. Integrity is very good.

but lost twice to TG last summer..so go figure


Ouch
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't disagree w that. Integrity is very good.

but lost twice to TG last summer..so go figure

That was the 2nd team Integrity, nice try though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 03:06 PM
Steps beat the yj 1 team this fall
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 04:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't disagree w that. Integrity is very good.

but lost twice to TG last summer..so go figure

That was the 2nd team Integrity, nice try though.

Integrity "A" team is Green and "B" team is Blue. Blue lost to TG.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 04:17 PM
in a recruiting tournament...pretty much the same as preseason in the nfl
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don't disagree w that. Integrity is very good.

but lost twice to TG last summer..so go figure

That was the 2nd team Integrity, nice try though.

Integrity "A" team is Green and "B" team is Blue. Blue lost to TG.

Integrity Green lost TG Black
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 06:42 PM
Twice
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 06:45 PM
Stop the excuses they are all recruiting tournaments
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 09:06 PM
Look at where Capital is sending girls---top academics/top teams....they are certainly a top 5 program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 09:24 PM
Are we talking about 2019s?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/12/16 09:27 PM
Originally Posted by The Hop
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anyone out there that left their club but returned the following season?
We made a move this season but begining to regret our decision but concerned how we will we viewed if we want to return?


Why are you regretting your decision to leave?


Kid got demoted made a knee jerk decision based on some others and probably let emotions get in the way. Been to a few clinics with the new club and not sure team is what it was cracked up to be. Will stick it out and hope for the best obviously have not seen the entire team together but feeling a little buyers remorse. Didn't make any noise when we left just didn't accept the spot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/13/16 03:10 AM
Capital is good at this age just outside top 5 tho. Maybe in a tie for 5th I'll give you that.

Clearly top 3 are:

MnD
Heros
YJ

At this age group. Then I think you can make an argument for the others.

One mnd and and three heros going to umd. Another to psu and another to unc and several more not allowed to commit yet but will go to top 5 school
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/13/16 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Capital is good at this age just outside top 5 tho. Maybe in a tie for 5th I'll give you that.

Clearly top 3 are:

MnD
Heros
YJ

At this age group. Then I think you can make an argument for the others.

One mnd and and three heros going to umd. Another to psu and another to unc and several more not allowed to commit yet but will go to top 5 school


YJ 2019 would lose to some 2020 teams, including yj 2020
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/24/16 03:44 PM
after the 2020 commit I was expecting a flood of 2019 ladies to start jumping. Any news/movement?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/24/16 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Capital is good at this age just outside top 5 tho. Maybe in a tie for 5th I'll give you that.

Clearly top 3 are:

MnD
Heros
YJ

At this age group. Then I think you can make an argument for the others.

One mnd and and three heros going to umd. Another to psu and another to unc and several more not allowed to commit yet but will go to top 5 school


YJ 2019 would lose to some 2020 teams, including yj 2020


Interesting, what LI club had the dominate 2019 team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/24/16 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Capital is good at this age just outside top 5 tho. Maybe in a tie for 5th I'll give you that.

Clearly top 3 are:

MnD
Heros
YJ

At this age group. Then I think you can make an argument for the others.

One mnd and and three heros going to umd. Another to psu and another to unc and several more not allowed to commit yet but will go to top 5 school


YJ 2019 would lose to some 2020 teams, including yj 2020


Interesting, what LI club had the dominate 2019 team?


None , YJ has the best 2019 team on long island but they are not a very good team( worst top team of any YJ age). Its not a lack of talent its more the coaching. The actual coach is a good coach but I believe is rarely there and a few years ago they added a homer coach to the ranks and the team has been a mess since then .The homer coach brought several kids from his hometown with him and has no idea what he is doing .The reason he was promoted is simple he will kiss as much butt as necessary and he was the only coach in the YJ organization that the actual coach could stand behind and still see the field.Will be very interesting this summer as team 2 YJ may surpass team 1.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 03:10 AM
Yj is surprisingly week at this age group. That being said they have high standards so they are still a top 5 team in the country. With heros crushing mnd at full strength at the end of last year, there may be a shakeup in the top programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 03:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
after the 2020 commit I was expecting a flood of 2019 ladies to start jumping. Any news/movement?


If dad had a relationship with gary gait they would have "jumped" already
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 03:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Capital is good at this age just outside top 5 tho. Maybe in a tie for 5th I'll give you that.

Clearly top 3 are:

MnD
Heros
YJ

At this age group. Then I think you can make an argument for the others.

One mnd and and three heros going to umd. Another to psu and another to unc and several more not allowed to commit yet but will go to top 5 school


YJ 2019 would lose to some 2020 teams, including yj 2020


Interesting, what LI club had the dominate 2019 team?


None , YJ has the best 2019 team on long island but they are not a very good team( worst top team of any YJ age). Its not a lack of talent its more the coaching. The actual coach is a good coach but I believe is rarely there and a few years ago they added a homer coach to the ranks and the team has been a mess since then .The homer coach brought several kids from his hometown with him and has no idea what he is doing .The reason he was promoted is simple he will kiss as much butt as necessary and he was the only coach in the YJ organization that the actual coach could stand behind and still see the field.Will be very interesting this summer as team 2 YJ may surpass team 1.


How many times have they beat TG or Liberty?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 12:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Capital is good at this age just outside top 5 tho. Maybe in a tie for 5th I'll give you that.

Clearly top 3 are:

MnD
Heros
YJ

At this age group. Then I think you can make an argument for the others.

One mnd and and three heros going to umd. Another to psu and another to unc and several more not allowed to commit yet but will go to top 5 school


YJ 2019 would lose to some 2020 teams, including yj 2020


Interesting, what LI club had the dominate 2019 team?


None , YJ has the best 2019 team on long island but they are not a very good team( worst top team of any YJ age). Its not a lack of talent its more the coaching. The actual coach is a good coach but I believe is rarely there and a few years ago they added a homer coach to the ranks and the team has been a mess since then .The homer coach brought several kids from his hometown with him and has no idea what he is doing .The reason he was promoted is simple he will kiss as much butt as necessary and he was the only coach in the YJ organization that the actual coach could stand behind and still see the field.Will be very interesting this summer as team 2 YJ may surpass team 1.


Your continued attacks against this teams coaches are fairly transparent. As a former bench warmer one would think that you would be prepared for a similar situation to transpire with your daughter. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Capital is good at this age just outside top 5 tho. Maybe in a tie for 5th I'll give you that.

Clearly top 3 are:

MnD
Heros
YJ


Would Elevate be in the top 5 in this age group?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 01:41 PM
Liberty 19's have to be considered right there...YJ still team to beat, but others like Liberty nipping at their heals...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Capital is good at this age just outside top 5 tho. Maybe in a tie for 5th I'll give you that.

Clearly top 3 are:

MnD
Heros
YJ


Would Elevate be in the top 5 in this age group?


HAHAHAHA!!! Good one. First of all, YJ isn't top 3, certainly not clearly, in this age group. Elevate is nowhere near YJ. So lets be a little logical here, please. Just to begin with here is a list of teams WAY better than Elevate 2019 ... M&D, Heros, YJ, TLC, Mass Elite, Steps, Skywalkers, Capital. I'm sure you guys can come up with more. These Elevate people are FUNNY!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 02:30 PM
Really? What are you basing that on? Also, please tell me who else is nipping at their heals.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 03:40 PM

"Your continued attacks against this teams coaches are fairly transparent. As a former bench warmer one would think that you would be prepared for a similar situation to transpire with your daughter. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!"

Couple questions for you ? Why do you think the team has been relatively unsuccessful , certainly less successful than other top YJ teams. Is it lack of talent or something else. I am basing my statement on what I have seen, heard and results. Coach is a nightmare in his hometown with many top players and parents getting as far away as they can causing the same divide he does at travel. You obviously feel you know who I am so grow a set and contact me. Benchwarmer ,maybe, maybe not, depends on the sport. I will be waiting for your call, email, or dare I say face to face conversation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 05:37 PM
grrrr..cat fight!...you will be the guy in the IROC right?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Your continued attacks against this teams coaches are fairly transparent. As a former bench warmer one would think that you would be prepared for a similar situation to transpire with your daughter. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!"

Couple questions for you ? Why do you think the team has been relatively unsuccessful , certainly less successful than other top YJ teams. Is it lack of talent or something else. I am basing my statement on what I have seen, heard and results. Coach is a nightmare in his hometown with many top players and parents getting as far away as they can causing the same divide he does at travel. You obviously feel you know who I am so grow a set and contact me. Benchwarmer ,maybe, maybe not, depends on the sport. I will be waiting for your call, email, or dare I say face to face conversation.
Love it. If you guys (or girls) fight let us know when and where so we can all watch. Nothing like lax parents mixing it up. Represent!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/25/16 11:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really? What are you basing that on? Also, please tell me who else is nipping at their heals.


Do you mean YJ? A few examples ... G8 last summer. YJ 3-2 in 5 games. There were 5 teams with at least 3-2 records or better. Lax For The Cure, YJ lost to Steps and beat Mass Elite by 1. I would say they are in a group with 3-5 teams behind the top couple in the age group. They r fine. They just aren't "Clearly" one of the top 3 teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/26/16 11:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Your continued attacks against this teams coaches are fairly transparent. As a former bench warmer one would think that you would be prepared for a similar situation to transpire with your daughter. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!"

Couple questions for you ? Why do you think the team has been relatively unsuccessful , certainly less successful than other top YJ teams. Is it lack of talent or something else. I am basing my statement on what I have seen, heard and results. Coach is a nightmare in his hometown with many top players and parents getting as far away as they can causing the same divide he does at travel. You obviously feel you know who I am so grow a set and contact me. Benchwarmer ,maybe, maybe not, depends on the sport. I will be waiting for your call, email, or dare I say face to face conversation.


I find it quite interesting and highly hypocritical that you are interested in having a " phone conversation, email or God forbid a face to face. It really sucks to have someone speak poorly of you behind the veil of anonymity. Here's a thought how about having the same one on one conversation you are requesting of me ,with your coaches who you continue to besmirch . For the record I never singled anyone out but it appears as if you felt the need to defend yourself from anonymous attacks. I am sure you felt the need to defend your position just as the recipients of your attacks most certainly do as well. It's time for you to make a phone call. MAN UP !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/26/16 02:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Your continued attacks against this teams coaches are fairly transparent. As a former bench warmer one would think that you would be prepared for a similar situation to transpire with your daughter. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!"

Couple questions for you ? Why do you think the team has been relatively unsuccessful , certainly less successful than other top YJ teams. Is it lack of talent or something else. I am basing my statement on what I have seen, heard and results. Coach is a nightmare in his hometown with many top players and parents getting as far away as they can causing the same divide he does at travel. You obviously feel you know who I am so grow a set and contact me. Benchwarmer ,maybe, maybe not, depends on the sport. I will be waiting for your call, email, or dare I say face to face conversation.


I find it quite interesting and highly hypocritical that you are interested in having a " phone conversation, email or God forbid a face to face. It really sucks to have someone speak poorly of you behind the veil of anonymity. Here's a thought how about having the same one on one conversation you are requesting of me ,with your coaches who you continue to besmirch . For the record I never singled anyone out but it appears as if you felt the need to defend yourself from anonymous attacks. I am sure you felt the need to defend your position just as the recipients of your attacks most certainly do as well. It's time for you to make a phone call. MAN UP !


You two A-holes realize you're fighting over 14 year old girls lacrosse right?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/26/16 03:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Your continued attacks against this teams coaches are fairly transparent. As a former bench warmer one would think that you would be prepared for a similar situation to transpire with your daughter. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!"

Couple questions for you ? Why do you think the team has been relatively unsuccessful , certainly less successful than other top YJ teams. Is it lack of talent or something else. I am basing my statement on what I have seen, heard and results. Coach is a nightmare in his hometown with many top players and parents getting as far away as they can causing the same divide he does at travel. You obviously feel you know who I am so grow a set and contact me. Benchwarmer ,maybe, maybe not, depends on the sport. I will be waiting for your call, email, or dare I say face to face conversation.


I find it quite interesting and highly hypocritical that you are interested in having a " phone conversation, email or God forbid a face to face. It really sucks to have someone speak poorly of you behind the veil of anonymity. Here's a thought how about having the same one on one conversation you are requesting of me ,with your coaches who you continue to besmirch . For the record I never singled anyone out but it appears as if you felt the need to defend yourself from anonymous attacks. I am sure you felt the need to defend your position just as the recipients of your attacks most certainly do as well. It's time for you to make a phone call. MAN UP !


You two A-holes realize you're fighting over 14 year old girls lacrosse right?


If you don't stop being mean, I'll scratch your eyes out and pull your hair! LMAO
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/26/16 06:59 PM
that's a long list of teams and some are real soft.. a guy on my desk daughter plays for steps out of NJ. he is crushed every Monday morning, according to him they have never beaten any LI team, even elevate.... don't know much about mass elite either
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/26/16 07:03 PM
what team are you watching? we have never lost to steps and have probably played them 10 times in this division. get the facts.. wth man?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/26/16 07:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what team are you watching? we have never lost to steps and have probably played them 10 times in this division. get the facts.. wth man?


First off, I believe Steps beat YJ at Lax for the cure. Doesn't matter tho. Was not saying Steps is as good as YJ. Was just saying YJ is not clearly in the top 3 in 2019. They are in a pack of 3 or 4 teams that are a SMALL step down from M&D at least and probably Heros. That group of 3 or 4 is up for debate but at least includes Skywalkers and a few others. As far as Mass Elite, they lost to YJ by one at the buzzer the only time they have played, so MIGHT suggest they are at least in the ballpark? And Mass Elite handily dismissed Elevate at that same tournament. Was not even a game. So there are two conclusions I am making. 1. YJ is very good, just not clearly one of the top 3 in the age. Might be, but it's not clear. They maybe in a tie for 3rd w several other teams, how's that? Elevate is not in the same league as at least 8 programs, maybe more.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/26/16 09:37 PM
There is a rabid Elevate supporter on several age group threads demanding proof that Elevate is not considered as one of the top clubs. Has some of their teams taken a game from some top teams once in a while? yes. But honestly across all age groups there is no way you can consider this club the top tier, not even in a single age group. I know you will point to some random win over anther club here or there as proof, but big picture, I am sure if you asked any and all the people from the top clubs if they thought Elevate was top tier, you would hear a resounding NO. Top tier meaning they have a team in every age group at or near the top five. That list is short and Elevate is not remotely close. Even on long Island the may not even be in top 3.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/26/16 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Capital is good at this age just outside top 5 tho. Maybe in a tie for 5th I'll give you that.

Clearly top 3 are:

MnD
Heros
YJ

At this age group. Then I think you can make an argument for the others.

One mnd and and three heros going to umd. Another to psu and another to unc and several more not allowed to commit yet but will go to top 5 school


YJ 2019 would lose to some 2020 teams, including yj 2020


Interesting, what LI club had the dominate 2019 team?


None , YJ has the best 2019 team on long island but they are not a very good team( worst top team of any YJ age). Its not a lack of talent its more the coaching. The actual coach is a good coach but I believe is rarely there and a few years ago they added a homer coach to the ranks and the team has been a mess since then .The homer coach brought several kids from his hometown with him and has no idea what he is doing .The reason he was promoted is simple he will kiss as much butt as necessary and he was the only coach in the YJ organization that the actual coach could stand behind and still see the field.Will be very interesting this summer as team 2 YJ may surpass team 1.


Your continued attacks against this teams coaches are fairly transparent. As a former bench warmer one would think that you would be prepared for a similar situation to transpire with your daughter. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!


I think the question was how many times have they beat TG and Liberty?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/26/16 10:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is a rabid Elevate supporter on several age group threads demanding proof that Elevate is not considered as one of the top clubs. Has some of their teams taken a game from some top teams once in a while? yes. But honestly across all age groups there is no way you can consider this club the top tier, not even in a single age group. I know you will point to some random win over anther club here or there as proof, but big picture, I am sure if you asked any and all the people from the top clubs if they thought Elevate was top tier, you would hear a resounding NO. Top tier meaning they have a team in every age group at or near the top five. That list is short and Elevate is not remotely close. Even on long Island the may not even be in top 3.


Topguns has taken a large step down in recent years but still edges out Elevate. The debate begins between Elevate and Liberty to round out top three on LI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/27/16 04:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Your continued attacks against this teams coaches are fairly transparent. As a former bench warmer one would think that you would be prepared for a similar situation to transpire with your daughter. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!"

Couple questions for you ? Why do you think the team has been relatively unsuccessful , certainly less successful than other top YJ teams. Is it lack of talent or something else. I am basing my statement on what I have seen, heard and results. Coach is a nightmare in his hometown with many top players and parents getting as far away as they can causing the same divide he does at travel. You obviously feel you know who I am so grow a set and contact me. Benchwarmer ,maybe, maybe not, depends on the sport. I will be waiting for your call, email, or dare I say face to face conversation.


I find it quite interesting and highly hypocritical that you are interested in having a " phone conversation, email or God forbid a face to face. It really sucks to have someone speak poorly of you behind the veil of anonymity. Here's a thought how about having the same one on one conversation you are requesting of me ,with your coaches who you continue to besmirch . For the record I never singled anyone out but it appears as if you felt the need to defend yourself from anonymous attacks. I am sure you felt the need to defend your position just as the recipients of your attacks most certainly do as well. It's time for you to make a phone call. MAN UP !


Thanks for not saying why this YJ team is the worst top YJ team , don't worry everyone knows the answer as to why this age group is not even in the discussion as top team in the age group. Actually you attempted to single out a child when in fact I was just singling out the butt kissing [lacrosse] that pretends to be a coach. Could be wrong but I have heard this same [lacrosse] may be breaking some rules in regard to school district residency to up the anty on butt kissing . Feel free to disparage a kid again but that will make yours free game .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/27/16 04:31 AM
Md seems so civilized now!! Thanks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/27/16 12:44 PM
It's not important who is the top team in Long Island as much as the girls are happy and having fun
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 02/29/16 11:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There is a rabid Elevate supporter on several age group threads demanding proof that Elevate is not considered as one of the top clubs. Has some of their teams taken a game from some top teams once in a while? yes. But honestly across all age groups there is no way you can consider this club the top tier, not even in a single age group. I know you will point to some random win over anther club here or there as proof, but big picture, I am sure if you asked any and all the people from the top clubs if they thought Elevate was top tier, you would hear a resounding NO. Top tier meaning they have a team in every age group at or near the top five. That list is short and Elevate is not remotely close. Even on long Island the may not even be in top 3.


Topguns has taken a large step down in recent years but still edges out Elevate. The debate begins between Elevate and Liberty to round out top three on LI.


Don't have a daughter on either of the 2019 teams but having seen them both play I would take liberty black over elevate blue for sure. Liberty is a much better team. Elevate has a few good players but do not play as a team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/01/16 03:25 PM
Steps beat YJ 1 and Top guns in back to back Games to end the fall Season!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/01/16 04:42 PM
Congrats, 2 great wins. You must have gone 4-0 at that tournament, right?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/03/16 12:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is a rabid Elevate supporter on several age group threads demanding proof that Elevate is not considered as one of the top clubs. Has some of their teams taken a game from some top teams once in a while? yes. But honestly across all age groups there is no way you can consider this club the top tier, not even in a single age group. I know you will point to some random win over anther club here or there as proof, but big picture, I am sure if you asked any and all the people from the top clubs if they thought Elevate was top tier, you would hear a resounding NO. Top tier meaning they have a team in every age group at or near the top five. That list is short and Elevate is not remotely close. Even on long Island the may not even be in top 3.


Elevate is very weak compared to top teams in the 2019 and 2020 age groups and I think that would hold true for other age groups as well. Have mostly seen them in the 2019 and 2020 groups and I believe other younger ages are pretty much the same. They do not draw the same talent other clubs draw so its hard for them to compete at a high level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/03/16 02:47 PM
yeah sure they did. those rich kids with their 25 kid rosters from NJ.. the profits that club generates make CR look like a non profit volunteer rec coach
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/03/16 03:02 PM
You talking about Steps 19?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/03/16 03:04 PM
Elevate 2020 Blue is a very solid team. Not exactly at the point of a YJ Blue, but I would consider them top 3 on LI absolutely.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/03/16 04:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You talking about Steps 19?



ahh yeah. what other team shows up with 15 subs all lined up waiting to play? feel bad for those kids
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/03/16 04:09 PM
What towns will feel the hit of the girls going to the private schools
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/03/16 04:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate 2020 Blue is a very solid team. Not exactly at the point of a YJ Blue, but I would consider them top 3 on LI absolutely.


Uh...No. Maybe #5. YJ Blue, Leg Blue, TG Black, YJ Gold
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/03/16 06:55 PM
TG black. Stop
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/03/16 08:02 PM
Elevate Blue tied Legacy and YJ Gold last summer so not sure why they are behind both and TG Black lost their star player so I certainly would have them below all three of these teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/03/16 09:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Elevate Blue tied Legacy and YJ Gold last summer so not sure why they are behind both and TG Black lost their star player so I certainly would have them below all three of these teams.


Why r u guys talking about 2020 teams in 2019 thread? Go there please. Now back to our originally scheduled programing ...

How's the recruiting road treating everyone? The timelines moved up again this year. Does it seem like it's slowed down a bit now that teams are in season?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/06/16 03:37 AM
Seems like it slowed down a bit. Yj had a couple kids commit last week, i guess it just depends on the schools.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/06/16 04:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like it slowed down a bit. Yj had a couple kids commit last week, i guess it just depends on the schools.


where r they going?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/06/16 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like it slowed down a bit. Yj had a couple kids commit last week, i guess it just depends on the schools.


where r they going?
I think 2 recently committed to Notre Dame and Maryland. Others listed on YJs website. Most other programs do not have as many 2019s committed yet. Not a statement about JYs (and it is not a race), just based on what is on websites.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/09/16 02:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like it slowed down a bit. Yj had a couple kids commit last week, i guess it just depends on the schools.


where r they going?
I think 2 recently committed to Notre Dame and Maryland. Others listed on YJs website. Most other programs do not have as many 2019s committed yet. Not a statement about JYs (and it is not a race), just based on what is on websites.


They must have heard you - two more this week, Delaware and Penn State.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/09/16 07:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like it slowed down a bit. Yj had a couple kids commit last week, i guess it just depends on the schools.


where r they going?
I think 2 recently committed to Notre Dame and Maryland. Others listed on YJs website. Most other programs do not have as many 2019s committed yet. Not a statement about JYs (and it is not a race), just based on what is on websites.


They must have heard you - two more this week, Delaware and Penn State.


thank you coach sausage
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/09/16 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Seems like it slowed down a bit. Yj had a couple kids commit last week, i guess it just depends on the schools.


where r they going?
I think 2 recently committed to Notre Dame and Maryland. Others listed on YJs website. Most other programs do not have as many 2019s committed yet. Not a statement about JYs (and it is not a race), just based on what is on websites.


They must have heard you - two more this week, Delaware and Penn State.


thank you coach sausage


Nope, not even close - was just following up on a question that was asked. And I only know the sausage reference from reading it on here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/09/16 09:53 PM
The "dark horse" at this age is the "A" team for Integrity.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 01:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "dark horse" at this age is the "A" team for Integrity.


Ranking according to a top D1 Assistant coach (not a full ranking but during recruiting said these were the top 3 teams they had seen at this age).

M&D
Mass Elite
Heros

I was surprised. My Daughter plays for a different Maryland team and I can understand M&D and Heros. Surprised by Mass Elite. We have never played them but what about YJ?

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 01:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "dark horse" at this age is the "A" team for Integrity.


Ranking according to a top D1 Assistant coach (not a full ranking but during recruiting said these were the top 3 teams they had seen at this age).

M&D
Mass Elite
Heros

I was surprised. My Daughter plays for a different Maryland team and I can understand M&D and Heros. Surprised by Mass Elite. We have never played them but what about YJ?



YJ 2020 would beat 19 blue
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 02:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "dark horse" at this age is the "A" team for Integrity.


Ranking according to a top D1 Assistant coach (not a full ranking but during recruiting said these were the top 3 teams they had seen at this age).

M&D
Mass Elite
Heros

I was surprised. My Daughter plays for a different Maryland team and I can understand M&D and Heros. Surprised by Mass Elite. We have never played them but what about YJ?



YJ 2020 would beat 19 blue


Easily
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 02:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "dark horse" at this age is the "A" team for Integrity.


Ranking according to a top D1 Assistant coach (not a full ranking but during recruiting said these were the top 3 teams they had seen at this age).

M&D
Mass Elite
Heros

I was surprised. My Daughter plays for a different Maryland team and I can understand M&D and Heros. Surprised by Mass Elite. We have never played them but what about YJ?



YJ 2020 would beat 19 blue


Keep hearing that. Is it really true? Saw them both play at a tournament in the fall. Not sure I would go that far.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 02:49 AM
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 03:08 AM
Heros also lost to Yj by 4 in a game last summer
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 03:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


Nope. Not a parent. Just reporting what I was told. Out of curiosity, why do you doubt the statement?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 03:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 12:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".


Wrong. That may be the case on the boys side, but for girls it is not. I've been in the game a long time and I do not know even one girl who was "held back".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 01:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".


Wrong. That may be the case on the boys side, but for girls it is not. I've been in the game a long time and I do not know even one girl who was "held back".


Maybe that's wrong in MD, but it goes on in Nassau County? I easily thought of 4 girls - all HS players who were holdbacks with fall birthdays
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".


Wrong. That may be the case on the boys side, but for girls it is not. I've been in the game a long time and I do not know even one girl who was "held back".


I have never heard of anyone intentionally holding girls back but I can tell you this is impacting soccer with US soccer moving to calendar year age groups. Will certainly see some changes to many travel clubs and is going to make for an interesting year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 05:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The "dark horse" at this age is the "A" team for Integrity.


Ranking according to a top D1 Assistant coach (not a full ranking but during recruiting said these were the top 3 teams they had seen at this age).

M&D
Mass Elite
Heros

I was surprised. My Daughter plays for a different Maryland team and I can understand M&D and Heros. Surprised by Mass Elite. We have never played them but what about YJ?



As a reminder, just when things start to get interesting in travel lacrosse and teams begin to gel and skills really peak... these tournaments turn into all showcase formats, you play 4 games and go home.. equal playing time ( as it should be in a showcase) wins don't matter, top teams in different brackets etc etc.. was a little frustrating because you think your kid is on a really good squad.. but those big time match-up showdowns never materialize..
it's all good in the end when the commitments start to pile up, and you see the kids from rival clubs are applying to the same schools as your daughter and they are more interested in hugs for their friends on the other team after the game then who won
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 05:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".


Wrong. That may be the case on the boys side, but for girls it is not. I've been in the game a long time and I do not know even one girl who was "held back".


I have never heard of anyone intentionally holding girls back but I can tell you this is impacting soccer with US soccer moving to calendar year age groups. Will certainly see some changes to many travel clubs and is going to make for an interesting year.


Then you probably don't live in a wealthy Nassau County school district.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 05:49 PM
Great post, I agree 100%. Priorities change for the best
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 07:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".


Wrong. That may be the case on the boys side, but for girls it is not. I've been in the game a long time and I do not know even one girl who was "held back".


I have never heard of anyone intentionally holding girls back but I can tell you this is impacting soccer with US soccer moving to calendar year age groups. Will certainly see some changes to many travel clubs and is going to make for an interesting year.


Then you probably don't live in a wealthy Nassau County school district.


Not following you? Please expand on your thought. Are you saying wealthy families are intentionally holding girls back, especially in NC?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 08:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".


Wrong. That may be the case on the boys side, but for girls it is not. I've been in the game a long time and I do not know even one girl who was "held back".


I have never heard of anyone intentionally holding girls back but I can tell you this is impacting soccer with US soccer moving to calendar year age groups. Will certainly see some changes to many travel clubs and is going to make for an interesting year.


Then you probably don't live in a wealthy Nassau County school district.


Not following you? Please expand on your thought. Are you saying wealthy families are intentionally holding girls back, especially in NC?


I don't know if it happens especially in Nassau County, but our school has several girls who are holdbacks. It's rampant with the boys too . Girls are more fall days but boys born in the summer are held back from starting shook based on age guidelines
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".


Wrong. That may be the case on the boys side, but for girls it is not. I've been in the game a long time and I do not know even one girl who was "held back".


I don't believe you. I'm sure there are a few when they switch from public to private repeat a year. But the real issue is that I believe the girls start school later in MD. Particularly in the private school systems. The MD club teams don't participate in age-based tournaments (see U15 Nationals) because their teams don't qualify. Produce the birth certificates. I will bet that there are a number of girls on M&D 2019s that were born in 2000. To be "on age" and in 2019's you should be born in 2001.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".


Wrong. That may be the case on the boys side, but for girls it is not. I've been in the game a long time and I do not know even one girl who was "held back".


I don't believe you. I'm sure there are a few when they switch from public to private repeat a year. But the real issue is that I believe the girls start school later in MD. Particularly in the private school systems. The MD club teams don't participate in age-based tournaments (see U15 Nationals) because their teams don't qualify. Produce the birth certificates. I will bet that there are a number of girls on M&D 2019s that were born in 2000. To be "on age" and in 2019's you should be born in 2001.


BTW easy solution. Lets go to age-based divisions, like every other sport. Can anyone tell me a REAL reason that shouldn't be done? The college recruiting thing is ridiculous. EVERY other sport can recruit while playing age-based divisions. The only reason I can come up with is that rich people (a lot in lax) want to be able to buy an advantage for their kid. Anyone have a better reason??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 09:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".


Wrong. That may be the case on the boys side, but for girls it is not. I've been in the game a long time and I do not know even one girl who was "held back".


I don't believe you. I'm sure there are a few when they switch from public to private repeat a year. But the real issue is that I believe the girls start school later in MD. Particularly in the private school systems. The MD club teams don't participate in age-based tournaments (see U15 Nationals) because their teams don't qualify. Produce the birth certificates. I will bet that there are a number of girls on M&D 2019s that were born in 2000. To be "on age" and in 2019's you should be born in 2001.


Believe it. I said, I do not know of any girls who have been "held back". Is it possible that a few have, sure but I've never heard of any. As far as starting later here in MD, if it's true then that's not the fault of the girl. As far as Public vs Private, I cannot answer that. My daughter is a current senior at a public school. She has a friend that is the "star" at McDonogh and that girl was not held back. As far as "producing birth certificates"...that's ridiculous. I think even if a girl is "on age" in your opinion, it would depend on when in the calendar year she was born, wouldn't it?
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Believe it. I said, I do not know of any girls who have been "held back". Is it possible that a few have, sure but I've never heard of any. As far as starting later here in MD, if it's true then that's not the fault of the girl. As far as Public vs Private, I cannot answer that. My daughter is a current senior at a public school. She has a friend that is the "star" at McDonogh and that girl was not held back. As far as "producing birth certificates"...that's ridiculous. I think even if a girl is "on age" in your opinion, it would depend on when in the calendar year she was born, wouldn't it?


In soccer, birth certificates are presented to the coach or club director (I forget which) and player cards are assigned and shown to the ref at every game. No card, no play. Soccer plays by birth year, not school year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 10:30 PM
Originally Posted by Powderfinger
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Believe it. I said, I do not know of any girls who have been "held back". Is it possible that a few have, sure but I've never heard of any. As far as starting later here in MD, if it's true then that's not the fault of the girl. As far as Public vs Private, I cannot answer that. My daughter is a current senior at a public school. She has a friend that is the "star" at McDonogh and that girl was not held back. As far as "producing birth certificates"...that's ridiculous. I think even if a girl is "on age" in your opinion, it would depend on when in the calendar year she was born, wouldn't it?


In soccer, birth certificates are presented to the coach or club director (I forget which) and player cards are assigned and shown to the ref at every game. No card, no play. Soccer plays by birth year, not school year.


This is the first year of birth year for soccer and the mandate goes into effect in August/16
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 10:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".


Wrong. That may be the case on the boys side, but for girls it is not. I've been in the game a long time and I do not know even one girl who was "held back".


I don't believe you. I'm sure there are a few when they switch from public to private repeat a year. But the real issue is that I believe the girls start school later in MD. Particularly in the private school systems. The MD club teams don't participate in age-based tournaments (see U15 Nationals) because their teams don't qualify. Produce the birth certificates. I will bet that there are a number of girls on M&D 2019s that were born in 2000. To be "on age" and in 2019's you should be born in 2001.


BTW easy solution. Lets go to age-based divisions, like every other sport. Can anyone tell me a REAL reason that shouldn't be done? The college recruiting thing is ridiculous. EVERY other sport can recruit while playing age-based divisions. The only reason I can come up with is that rich people (a lot in lax) want to be able to buy an advantage for their kid. Anyone have a better reason??


Rich people buying an advantage by holding kids back? I got news for you, the rich people are more focused on the right education their kids get and can afford college. Trust me, they are not doing it for the slim chance of some academic aide.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 11:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite?? Obv a parent. Heros and mnd yes. Integrity is also very good. Heros hab yj 8-3 in tourney last year only to end up 9-6. Should be a fun few years now that the girls have lacrosse every day.


What is the estimate of the average age of the MD teams? Bet at least half have birthdays in 2000. They are a year older. If they played true to age, they would not be nearly as "good".


Wrong. That may be the case on the boys side, but for girls it is not. I've been in the game a long time and I do not know even one girl who was "held back".


I don't believe you. I'm sure there are a few when they switch from public to private repeat a year. But the real issue is that I believe the girls start school later in MD. Particularly in the private school systems. The MD club teams don't participate in age-based tournaments (see U15 Nationals) because their teams don't qualify. Produce the birth certificates. I will bet that there are a number of girls on M&D 2019s that were born in 2000. To be "on age" and in 2019's you should be born in 2001.


BTW easy solution. Lets go to age-based divisions, like every other sport. Can anyone tell me a REAL reason that shouldn't be done? The college recruiting thing is ridiculous. EVERY other sport can recruit while playing age-based divisions. The only reason I can come up with is that rich people (a lot in lax) want to be able to buy an advantage for their kid. Anyone have a better reason??


Rich people buying an advantage by holding kids back? I got news for you, the rich people are more focused on the right education their kids get and can afford college. Trust me, they are not doing it for the slim chance of some academic aide.


Meant athletic aide
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/10/16 11:23 PM
Who cares how old your opponent is ? once you get to High school you play against girls of all ages for the rest of your playing career. If it's a tournament championship you seek, go buy your kid a trophy and stop complaining
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Powderfinger
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Believe it. I said, I do not know of any girls who have been "held back". Is it possible that a few have, sure but I've never heard of any. As far as starting later here in MD, if it's true then that's not the fault of the girl. As far as Public vs Private, I cannot answer that. My daughter is a current senior at a public school. She has a friend that is the "star" at McDonogh and that girl was not held back. As far as "producing birth certificates"...that's ridiculous. I think even if a girl is "on age" in your opinion, it would depend on when in the calendar year she was born, wouldn't it?


In soccer, birth certificates are presented to the coach or club director (I forget which) and player cards are assigned and shown to the ref at every game. No card, no play. Soccer plays by birth year, not school year.


This is the first year of birth year for soccer and the mandate goes into effect in August/16


Well, my kids started playing before the new millennium and birth year was how it was done then, so I'm not sure what has changed or what your saying. Or did they change the cut-off date? Is that what you're saying? It used to be August 1.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/11/16 01:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares how old your opponent is ? once you get to High school you play against girls of all ages for the rest of your playing career. If it's a tournament championship you seek, go buy your kid a trophy and stop complaining


Um because people get on here and pound their chests about how good such and such team is etc. And if you've got a group of 15 year olds playing a group of 14 year olds, one would hope they would be "better". As a separate issue, as early recruiting has gotten younger and younger, it is starting to bleed into the growth years for these girls. Being a year older in 8th and 9th grade makes a huge difference physically. Not so much later on. These Maryland teams don't pass the eye test on that. They are definitely older. As far the rich people, they don't do it for athletic money, they do it to get their kid into a better school through athletics. Sure beats having to get 1600s and 4.0 in all AP classes right?

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/11/16 01:16 AM
Originally Posted by Powderfinger
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Powderfinger
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Believe it. I said, I do not know of any girls who have been "held back". Is it possible that a few have, sure but I've never heard of any. As far as starting later here in MD, if it's true then that's not the fault of the girl. As far as Public vs Private, I cannot answer that. My daughter is a current senior at a public school. She has a friend that is the "star" at McDonogh and that girl was not held back. As far as "producing birth certificates"...that's ridiculous. I think even if a girl is "on age" in your opinion, it would depend on when in the calendar year she was born, wouldn't it?


In soccer, birth certificates are presented to the coach or club director (I forget which) and player cards are assigned and shown to the ref at every game. No card, no play. Soccer plays by birth year, not school year.


This is the first year of birth year for soccer and the mandate goes into effect in August/16


Well, my kids started playing before the new millennium and birth year was how it was done then, so I'm not sure what has changed or what your saying. Or did they change the cut-off date? Is that what you're saying? It used to be August 1.


From US Soccer;


As previously announced in September 2015, US Club Soccer will be implementing the U.S. Soccer Federationís birth-year registration mandates on Aug. 1, 2016.

This means that all youth competitions beginning Aug. 1, 2016 will be based on age group cut-offs of January 1 for each age group. Due to additional interpretative changes by U.S. Soccer since this announcement in how competition age groups are labeled, US Club Soccer and other sanctioning bodies are now clarifying the age group structures for the 2016-2017 season.

Beginning Aug. 1, 2016, all youth soccer sanctioning organizations will form competitions based on birth-year age groups.
Beginning Aug. 1, 2016, US Club Soccer will be using the following birth-year ďlabelsĒ for competition, based upon the season in which competition ends. For example:
Players born from January 1, 1998 Ė December 31, 1998 will be labeled as Under-19s.
Players born from January 1, 1999 Ė December 31, 1999 will be labeled as Under-18s.
Players born from January 1, 2000 Ė December 31, 2000 will be labeled as Under-17s.
For any birth year, the age group ďlabelĒ will be determined by subtracting the year in which the players participating in the competition were born from the year in which competition ends.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/11/16 02:32 AM
Can lax please follow? Anyone want to argue against? Hockey does same thing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/11/16 02:47 AM
From a recruiters point of view it would be more interesting to see them play in proper age group. Then the extra year is an added bonus, not the reason they r playing better than the competition.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/11/16 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares how old your opponent is ? once you get to High school you play against girls of all ages for the rest of your playing career. If it's a tournament championship you seek, go buy your kid a trophy and stop complaining


Um because people get on here and pound their chests about how good such and such team is etc. And if you've got a group of 15 year olds playing a group of 14 year olds, one would hope they would be "better". As a separate issue, as early recruiting has gotten younger and younger, it is starting to bleed into the growth years for these girls. Being a year older in 8th and 9th grade makes a huge difference physically. Not so much later on. These Maryland teams don't pass the eye test on that. They are definitely older. As far the rich people, they don't do it for athletic money, they do it to get their kid into a better school through athletics. Sure beats having to get 1600s and 4.0 in all AP classes right?


This is too funny - my daughter plays on one of those top two Maryland teams and the parents on that team pretty well feel the same way. That there is no need to beat our chests when others talk about us enough. Regarding the ages of the girls whether held back or not - that advantage seems to wane after 8th grade. Besides - when a 9th grader is on the varsity squad - I don't think she is concerned about how old that 12th grader is coming up on her 6.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/11/16 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares how old your opponent is ? once you get to High school you play against girls of all ages for the rest of your playing career. If it's a tournament championship you seek, go buy your kid a trophy and stop complaining


Um because people get on here and pound their chests about how good such and such team is etc. And if you've got a group of 15 year olds playing a group of 14 year olds, one would hope they would be "better". As a separate issue, as early recruiting has gotten younger and younger, it is starting to bleed into the growth years for these girls. Being a year older in 8th and 9th grade makes a huge difference physically. Not so much later on. These Maryland teams don't pass the eye test on that. They are definitely older. As far the rich people, they don't do it for athletic money, they do it to get their kid into a better school through athletics. Sure beats having to get 1600s and 4.0 in all AP classes right?


This is too funny - my daughter plays on one of those top two Maryland teams and the parents on that team pretty well feel the same way. That there is no need to beat our chests when others talk about us enough. Regarding the ages of the girls whether held back or not - that advantage seems to wane after 8th grade. Besides - when a 9th grader is on the varsity squad - I don't think she is concerned about how old that 12th grader is coming up on her 6.


I would definitely agree. You see the biggest physical change from 7 to 8th . By 8/9 most girls have peaked and any advantage is a mute point. When the girls were 4,5 and 6 the advantage was clear and we saw it in both soccer, town and club lax. By 7th grade they were no longer the tallest, fastest and biggest and all of a sudden they just blended in. By 8th grade many of the older kids just got flat out passed by. Its much easier to be a stud in grade school when you have 25lbs and 6-10 inches of height. Those kids were just more aggressive, physical and weren't intimated. It's almost comical now because they still think they can run through 3 girls and go to go and now 9 times out of 10 lose the ball. With all that said, I don't believe any of them were intentionally held back for the athletic advantage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/11/16 03:38 PM
I doesn't really matter whether the kid was held back intentionally for sports, or for some other reason. who cares. the best way to compare two things(obviously these are young people don't get the wrong idea) is on an apples to apples basis. soccer and hockey are spot on and lacrosse should get with the program.

an added benefit is it will be safer to play against girls closer in age than not..

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares how old your opponent is ? once you get to High school you play against girls of all ages for the rest of your playing career. If it's a tournament championship you seek, go buy your kid a trophy and stop complaining


Um because people get on here and pound their chests about how good such and such team is etc. And if you've got a group of 15 year olds playing a group of 14 year olds, one would hope they would be "better". As a separate issue, as early recruiting has gotten younger and younger, it is starting to bleed into the growth years for these girls. Being a year older in 8th and 9th grade makes a huge difference physically. Not so much later on. These Maryland teams don't pass the eye test on that. They are definitely older. As far the rich people, they don't do it for athletic money, they do it to get their kid into a better school through athletics. Sure beats having to get 1600s and 4.0 in all AP classes right?


This is too funny - my daughter plays on one of those top two Maryland teams and the parents on that team pretty well feel the same way. That there is no need to beat our chests when others talk about us enough. Regarding the ages of the girls whether held back or not - that advantage seems to wane after 8th grade. Besides - when a 9th grader is on the varsity squad - I don't think she is concerned about how old that 12th grader is coming up on her 6.


I would definitely agree. You see the biggest physical change from 7 to 8th . By 8/9 most girls have peaked and any advantage is a mute point. When the girls were 4,5 and 6 the advantage was clear and we saw it in both soccer, town and club lax. By 7th grade they were no longer the tallest, fastest and biggest and all of a sudden they just blended in. By 8th grade many of the older kids just got flat out passed by. Its much easier to be a stud in grade school when you have 25lbs and 6-10 inches of height. Those kids were just more aggressive, physical and weren't intimated. It's almost comical now because they still think they can run through 3 girls and go to go and now 9 times out of 10 lose the ball. With all that said, I don't believe any of them were intentionally held back for the athletic advantage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/12/16 09:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares how old your opponent is ? once you get to High school you play against girls of all ages for the rest of your playing career. If it's a tournament championship you seek, go buy your kid a trophy and stop complaining


Um because people get on here and pound their chests about how good such and such team is etc. And if you've got a group of 15 year olds playing a group of 14 year olds, one would hope they would be "better". As a separate issue, as early recruiting has gotten younger and younger, it is starting to bleed into the growth years for these girls. Being a year older in 8th and 9th grade makes a huge difference physically. Not so much later on. These Maryland teams don't pass the eye test on that. They are definitely older. As far the rich people, they don't do it for athletic money, they do it to get their kid into a better school through athletics. Sure beats having to get 1600s and 4.0 in all AP classes right?


This is too funny - my daughter plays on one of those top two Maryland teams and the parents on that team pretty well feel the same way. That there is no need to beat our chests when others talk about us enough. Regarding the ages of the girls whether held back or not - that advantage seems to wane after 8th grade. Besides - when a 9th grader is on the varsity squad - I don't think she is concerned about how old that 12th grader is coming up on her 6.


Ok so it sounds like you are admitting that the girls are older. Thank You. We are not talking about high school lax, we are talking about single year, club lax. But while we are on the subject of high school lax, if McDonogh's players are 15-19 and are playing 14-18 year olds, hmmm, that might explain some things out of region ... in region maybe many schools have the same age drift.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/12/16 09:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares how old your opponent is ? once you get to High school you play against girls of all ages for the rest of your playing career. If it's a tournament championship you seek, go buy your kid a trophy and stop complaining


Um because people get on here and pound their chests about how good such and such team is etc. And if you've got a group of 15 year olds playing a group of 14 year olds, one would hope they would be "better". As a separate issue, as early recruiting has gotten younger and younger, it is starting to bleed into the growth years for these girls. Being a year older in 8th and 9th grade makes a huge difference physically. Not so much later on. These Maryland teams don't pass the eye test on that. They are definitely older. As far the rich people, they don't do it for athletic money, they do it to get their kid into a better school through athletics. Sure beats having to get 1600s and 4.0 in all AP classes right?


This is too funny - my daughter plays on one of those top two Maryland teams and the parents on that team pretty well feel the same way. That there is no need to beat our chests when others talk about us enough. Regarding the ages of the girls whether held back or not - that advantage seems to wane after 8th grade. Besides - when a 9th grader is on the varsity squad - I don't think she is concerned about how old that 12th grader is coming up on her 6.


Please ... the advantage doesn't wane in 8th grade. By that logic, since all age advantage goes away in 9th grade, a high school team should beat a college team, a typical freshman in high school will have no physical disadvantage to a senior etc. Stop trying to justify it. Lets go to age-based divisions in club lax, just like other sports have done. Thank you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/13/16 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares how old your opponent is ? once you get to High school you play against girls of all ages for the rest of your playing career. If it's a tournament championship you seek, go buy your kid a trophy and stop complaining


Um because people get on here and pound their chests about how good such and such team is etc. And if you've got a group of 15 year olds playing a group of 14 year olds, one would hope they would be "better". As a separate issue, as early recruiting has gotten younger and younger, it is starting to bleed into the growth years for these girls. Being a year older in 8th and 9th grade makes a huge difference physically. Not so much later on. These Maryland teams don't pass the eye test on that. They are definitely older. As far the rich people, they don't do it for athletic money, they do it to get their kid into a better school through athletics. Sure beats having to get 1600s and 4.0 in all AP classes right?


This is too funny - my daughter plays on one of those top two Maryland teams and the parents on that team pretty well feel the same way. That there is no need to beat our chests when others talk about us enough. Regarding the ages of the girls whether held back or not - that advantage seems to wane after 8th grade. Besides - when a 9th grader is on the varsity squad - I don't think she is concerned about how old that 12th grader is coming up on her 6.


Please ... the advantage doesn't wane in 8th grade. By that logic, since all age advantage goes away in 9th grade, a high school team should beat a college team, a typical freshman in high school will have no physical disadvantage to a senior etc. Stop trying to justify it. Lets go to age-based divisions in club lax, just like other sports have done. Thank you.


I think you are missing their point and forgetting about the extra four years of experience and skills development that a college player has over a high school player. And since you did bring it up - I think that McDonogh can probably beat quite a few of the college teams out there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/13/16 07:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who cares how old your opponent is ? once you get to High school you play against girls of all ages for the rest of your playing career. If it's a tournament championship you seek, go buy your kid a trophy and stop complaining


Um because people get on here and pound their chests about how good such and such team is etc. And if you've got a group of 15 year olds playing a group of 14 year olds, one would hope they would be "better". As a separate issue, as early recruiting has gotten younger and younger, it is starting to bleed into the growth years for these girls. Being a year older in 8th and 9th grade makes a huge difference physically. Not so much later on. These Maryland teams don't pass the eye test on that. They are definitely older. As far the rich people, they don't do it for athletic money, they do it to get their kid into a better school through athletics. Sure beats having to get 1600s and 4.0 in all AP classes right?


This is too funny - my daughter plays on one of those top two Maryland teams and the parents on that team pretty well feel the same way. That there is no need to beat our chests when others talk about us enough. Regarding the ages of the girls whether held back or not - that advantage seems to wane after 8th grade. Besides - when a 9th grader is on the varsity squad - I don't think she is concerned about how old that 12th grader is coming up on her 6.


Please ... the advantage doesn't wane in 8th grade. By that logic, since all age advantage goes away in 9th grade, a high school team should beat a college team, a typical freshman in high school will have no physical disadvantage to a senior etc. Stop trying to justify it. Lets go to age-based divisions in club lax, just like other sports have done. Thank you.


I think you are missing their point and forgetting about the extra four years of experience and skills development that a college player has over a high school player. And since you did bring it up - I think that McDonogh can probably beat quite a few of the college teams out there.


I think you are making my point. Each year of physical and skill development does matter. Therefore the extra year keeps being an advantage and does not end in 8th grade as posited above. There is no sensible reason not to go to age-based divisions for club lacrosse. And there are many reasons to do it. The only people who argue against it are the ones whose kids are older and gain an undeserved advantage.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/14/16 05:31 PM
A lot of 2019 recent commits to top ten schools for such a horrible team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/14/16 05:51 PM
How's all the recruiting going for the 19s? Lot of talent in this age group. Any helpful tips would be appreciated.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/14/16 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A lot of 2019 recent commits to top ten schools for such a horrible team?


Which team are u talking about?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/14/16 07:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How's all the recruiting going for the 19s? Lot of talent in this age group. Any helpful tips would be appreciated.


Yes on the talent. College coaches have said the 19's are extremely deep relative to a "normal" year and definitely relative to 18's. Many more commits at this time than at same time last year in 18's. Partly it's the talent and partly it's that the competition for players continues to push younger. Still the big wave of numbers will likely be over the summer into the fall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/15/16 12:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How's all the recruiting going for the 19s? Lot of talent in this age group. Any helpful tips would be appreciated.


Yes on the talent. College coaches have said the 19's are extremely deep relative to a "normal" year and definitely relative to 18's. Many more commits at this time than at same time last year in 18's. Partly it's the talent and partly it's that the competition for players continues to push younger. Still the big wave of numbers will likely be over the summer into the fall.


'20s much, much deeper group than 19's by far
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/15/16 01:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How's all the recruiting going for the 19s? Lot of talent in this age group. Any helpful tips would be appreciated.


Yes on the talent. College coaches have said the 19's are extremely deep relative to a "normal" year and definitely relative to 18's. Many more commits at this time than at same time last year in 18's. Partly it's the talent and partly it's that the competition for players continues to push younger. Still the big wave of numbers will likely be over the summer into the fall.


'20s much, much deeper group than 19's by far


Not sure about 2019 as a whole across the nation, but certainly the LI clubs top teams are off at this age group.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/15/16 01:48 AM
Yellow Jackets
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/15/16 02:08 AM
Oh yeah- you would know- guess you got out your slide rule and did a scientific regression analysis of 19s vs 20s - nice work!- as if there were a statistically significant variance between these two very large groups of players? Keep sippin
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/15/16 02:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How's all the recruiting going for the 19s? Lot of talent in this age group. Any helpful tips would be appreciated.


Yes on the talent. College coaches have said the 19's are extremely deep relative to a "normal" year and definitely relative to 18's. Many more commits at this time than at same time last year in 18's. Partly it's the talent and partly it's that the competition for players continues to push younger. Still the big wave of numbers will likely be over the summer into the fall.


'20s much, much deeper group than 19's by far


not according to D1 coaches. Not sure why u would think that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/15/16 02:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How's all the recruiting going for the 19s? Lot of talent in this age group. Any helpful tips would be appreciated.


Yes on the talent. College coaches have said the 19's are extremely deep relative to a "normal" year and definitely relative to 18's. Many more commits at this time than at same time last year in 18's. Partly it's the talent and partly it's that the competition for players continues to push younger. Still the big wave of numbers will likely be over the summer into the fall.


'20s much, much deeper group than 19's by far


Maybe on LI, but not nationally.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/15/16 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How's all the recruiting going for the 19s? Lot of talent in this age group. Any helpful tips would be appreciated.


Yes on the talent. College coaches have said the 19's are extremely deep relative to a "normal" year and definitely relative to 18's. Many more commits at this time than at same time last year in 18's. Partly it's the talent and partly it's that the competition for players continues to push younger. Still the big wave of numbers will likely be over the summer into the fall.


'20s much, much deeper group than 19's by far

The '20s are a much bigger group - numbers wise. But, it's watered down talent. I'm seeing whole 2019 teams being recruited by D1 programs - I don't see many 2020 teams where from #1 all the way to #24 on the depth chart are D1 players. If you look at the top 5 2019 club teams - that's the case. Besides - this is the 2019 forum - you can discuss how deep 2020 is on that forum.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/16/16 08:44 PM
Hallelujah!!! Age-based divisions!! Now how do we get the club world to follow??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/16/16 09:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hallelujah!!! Age-based divisions!! Now how do we get the club world to follow??


Where is this going on? Is this a bigger issue outside NY/LI because I don't see it and have been at this a long time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/17/16 12:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hallelujah!!! Age-based divisions!! Now how do we get the club world to follow??


Where is this going on? Is this a bigger issue outside NY/LI because I don't see it and have been at this a long time.


Well of course it is rampant on the boy's side, but it also happens in the girl's game. It will be interesting to see who is impacted most. I will venture that Maryland has the biggest problem because of their "pre-first" years that many on the private school side take. But I know of at least two girls on my daughter's team that are a year older than "normal" for 2019s. Good move by US Lax
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/17/16 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hallelujah!!! Age-based divisions!! Now how do we get the club world to follow??


Where is this going on? Is this a bigger issue outside NY/LI because I don't see it and have been at this a long time.


Well of course it is rampant on the boy's side, but it also happens in the girl's game. It will be interesting to see who is impacted most. I will venture that Maryland has the biggest problem because of their "pre-first" years that many on the private school side take. But I know of at least two girls on my daughter's team that are a year older than "normal" for 2019s. Good move by US Lax


You will see it impact the girls travel lax game this year at the national championships this year as they have gone to U15, U14 etc so some kids will not get to play with their teammates and will be forced to play age appropriate. Yes this goes on in LI also .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/17/16 05:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hallelujah!!! Age-based divisions!! Now how do we get the club world to follow??


Where is this going on? Is this a bigger issue outside NY/LI because I don't see it and have been at this a long time.


Well of course it is rampant on the boy's side, but it also happens in the girl's game. It will be interesting to see who is impacted most. I will venture that Maryland has the biggest problem because of their "pre-first" years that many on the private school side take. But I know of at least two girls on my daughter's team that are a year older than "normal" for 2019s. Good move by US Lax


You will see it impact the girls travel lax game this year at the national championships this year as they have gone to U15, U14 etc so some kids will not get to play with their teammates and will be forced to play age appropriate. Yes this goes on in LI also .


Do you know of front line tournaments that will have age based divisions?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/17/16 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hallelujah!!! Age-based divisions!! Now how do we get the club world to follow??


Where is this going on? Is this a bigger issue outside NY/LI because I don't see it and have been at this a long time.


Well of course it is rampant on the boy's side, but it also happens in the girl's game. It will be interesting to see who is impacted most. I will venture that Maryland has the biggest problem because of their "pre-first" years that many on the private school side take. But I know of at least two girls on my daughter's team that are a year older than "normal" for 2019s. Good move by US Lax


You will see it impact the girls travel lax game this year at the national championships this year as they have gone to U15, U14 etc so some kids will not get to play with their teammates and will be forced to play age appropriate. Yes this goes on in LI also .


Do you know of front line tournaments that will have age based divisions?


I don't know how they could for this summer. All the rosters should already be in including the "big" ones down in the Richmond area. I think everyone has already been getting the emails about the waivers and been booking their hotel rooms for the "big" tournaments. I've been hearing that this summer is the "major" ones for the 2019's - going from freshman year to sophomore year in high school. This will probably have more of an impact on the younger age groups.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/17/16 11:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hallelujah!!! Age-based divisions!! Now how do we get the club world to follow??


Where is this going on? Is this a bigger issue outside NY/LI because I don't see it and have been at this a long time.


Well of course it is rampant on the boy's side, but it also happens in the girl's game. It will be interesting to see who is impacted most. I will venture that Maryland has the biggest problem because of their "pre-first" years that many on the private school side take. But I know of at least two girls on my daughter's team that are a year older than "normal" for 2019s. Good move by US Lax


You will see it impact the girls travel lax game this year at the national championships this year as they have gone to U15, U14 etc so some kids will not get to play with their teammates and will be forced to play age appropriate. Yes this goes on in LI also .


Do you know of front line tournaments that will have age based divisions?


None. US Lax Championship at usually and that's it. Same as now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/18/16 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hallelujah!!! Age-based divisions!! Now how do we get the club world to follow??


Where is this going on? Is this a bigger issue outside NY/LI because I don't see it and have been at this a long time.


Well of course it is rampant on the boy's side, but it also happens in the girl's game. It will be interesting to see who is impacted most. I will venture that Maryland has the biggest problem because of their "pre-first" years that many on the private school side take. But I know of at least two girls on my daughter's team that are a year older than "normal" for 2019s. Good move by US Lax


You will see it impact the girls travel lax game this year at the national championships this year as they have gone to U15, U14 etc so some kids will not get to play with their teammates and will be forced to play age appropriate. Yes this goes on in LI also .


Do you know of front line tournaments that will have age based divisions?


None. US Lax Championship at usually and that's it. Same as now.


Probably true for this year, but I bet by next summer things will be changing ... Can't wait to watch all the crying by the people who thought they were giving their kid an advantage by holding them back or starting them late. Finally some sanity.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/18/16 09:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Where is this going on? Is this a bigger issue outside NY/LI because I don't see it and have been at this a long time.


Well of course it is rampant on the boy's side, but it also happens in the girl's game. It will be interesting to see who is impacted most. I will venture that Maryland has the biggest problem because of their "pre-first" years that many on the private school side take. But I know of at least two girls on my daughter's team that are a year older than "normal" for 2019s. Good move by US Lax


You will see it impact the girls travel lax game this year at the national championships this year as they have gone to U15, U14 etc so some kids will not get to play with their teammates and will be forced to play age appropriate. Yes this goes on in LI also .


Do you know of front line tournaments that will have age based divisions?


None. US Lax Championship at usually and that's it. Same as now.


Probably true for this year, but I bet by next summer things will be changing ... Can't wait to watch all the crying by the people who thought they were giving their kid an advantage by holding them back or starting them late. Finally some sanity.


I wonder how they are going to do it for the Brine and UA games. That should be interesting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/18/16 10:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]

Where is this going on? Is this a bigger issue outside NY/LI because I don't see it and have been at this a long time.


Well of course it is rampant on the boy's side, but it also happens in the girl's game. It will be interesting to see who is impacted most. I will venture that Maryland has the biggest problem because of their "pre-first" years that many on the private school side take. But I know of at least two girls on my daughter's team that are a year older than "normal" for 2019s. Good move by US Lax


You will see it impact the girls travel lax game this year at the national championships this year as they have gone to U15, U14 etc so some kids will not get to play with their teammates and will be forced to play age appropriate. Yes this goes on in LI also .


Do you know of front line tournaments that will have age based divisions?


None. US Lax Championship at usually and that's it. Same as now.


Probably true for this year, but I bet by next summer things will be changing ... Can't wait to watch all the crying by the people who thought they were giving their kid an advantage by holding them back or starting them late. Finally some sanity.


I wonder how they are going to do it for the Brine and UA games. That should be interesting.

It will be age based
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/18/16 12:35 PM
UA will remain the same. underclass is underclass no matter age. All American is All American no matter what age. People need to stop crying about this and let the girls play. The good ones could care less how old their opponent is as long as its competition. All thru High school, College and Life they will have to compete for things against all different types of competitive advantages. Age, race, religion, gender and social standing will be some of the obstacles they will face. They will manage, can you ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/18/16 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UA will remain the same. underclass is underclass no matter age. All American is All American no matter what age. People need to stop crying about this and let the girls play. The good ones could care less how old their opponent is as long as its competition. All thru High school, College and Life they will have to compete for things against all different types of competitive advantages. Age, race, religion, gender and social standing will be some of the obstacles they will face. They will manage, can you ?


Typical red herring argument. This is mainly about youth age groups, 14 and under. And it is important. Lit isn't about coddling kids, in fact it's the opposite. The people who hold back their kids for athletic advantage r the ones who don't know how to compete. Your logic, as always, is flawed. But keep on ranting. Nice job US Lax!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/18/16 06:32 PM
OK and why is it important ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/18/16 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK and why is it important ?


First of all, on the boys side, it's a big safety issue. You have 15 and 14 yr olds playing down w 13 and 12 yr olds. The disparity in sizes and physical development is large. Secondly, it stops people from gaming the system. I don't know how one can argue that that is a bad thing. If your argument is, it happens everywhere, this can now be one place where it doesn't. All the other youth sports have gone this way with great success. Why r the lax crazies the only ones that can't stand to see the playing field leveled? What is it that you are afraid of?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/18/16 06:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
OK and why is it important ?


I care because I coach at the youth level and I think it is the right thing to do for the sport. It has nothing to do w my own daughter. It has to do with the majority of kids out there. My daughter is "on age" for her grade and is committed to a D1 program. I could make the argument in her case that what's the big deal, she has to compete w older kids anyway etc. But I don't. I have a desire to make the game as safe as possible and I have a desire for the game to uphold an integrity and sense of fair competition that apparently you don't share. To each his own.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/18/16 07:21 PM
Why must you put in your post your daughter is a D1 commit? What does that have to do with anything?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/18/16 07:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
UA will remain the same. underclass is underclass no matter age. All American is All American no matter what age. People need to stop crying about this and let the girls play. The good ones could care less how old their opponent is as long as its competition. All thru High school, College and Life they will have to compete for things against all different types of competitive advantages. Age, race, religion, gender and social standing will be some of the obstacles they will face. They will manage, can you ?


Simple question for you, is you daughter/son playing in the age appropriate group based on the new guidelines?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/19/16 01:31 AM
Actually my daughter is a young HS sr who will not be 18 until December of her freshmen year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/19/16 01:42 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why must you put in your post your daughter is a D1 commit? What does that have to do with anything?


Because u r claiming that the reason people are complaining about the unfair advantage of older kids playing down is because their kids aren't good enough and can't compete. I am telling you I am complaining about the unfair advantage older kids playing down have, even though my kid could compete. Get it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/19/16 10:44 PM
I'm not claiming that at all. I'm good with you complaining about the unfair advantage, very noble and i agree, just tired of people coming on here having to tell us they have a D1 commit kid. We will never know if you have a D1 commit, its an anonymous site. Get it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/20/16 02:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not claiming that at all. I'm good with you complaining about the unfair advantage, very noble and i agree, just tired of people coming on here having to tell us they have a D1 commit kid. We will never know if you have a D1 commit, its an anonymous site. Get it?


Yes ... but there was a point to it. Don't HAVE to tell you that. It helped make my point. I shall recede into the anonymous background now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/21/16 01:35 PM
My daughter would like to be a D1 commit. But, I'll take the academics of a lot of D3 programs. Now that we have that out of the way:
She is in her first year in high school competing against girls who are a year to 3 years older than her. She's holding her own. I know that through the summer travel season - we played some club teams with a majority of players that were bigger and faster in general - but that seems to have been a few years back. Now, it looks like most club teams are about on par from a visual perspective. What I'm curious about is whether these club teams will now reshuffle their rosters to comply with the new rules.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/21/16 07:27 PM
My daughter plays D1 and never played travel. Starts as a freshman. Don't worry too much about club ball. If your daughter is a good player and has the academics then they will find her.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/21/16 08:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My daughter plays D1 and never played travel. Starts as a freshman. Don't worry too much about club ball. If your daughter is a good player and has the academics then they will find her.
Not sure this is the best advice. Kudos to your daughter but there are very few non-club players being recruited to top 20 lacrosse programs. And i think the "they will find them advice" also not great advice, particularly is the girl is not playing on a very competitive club team. Clearly can happen (see your daughter), but is not typical.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/21/16 09:26 PM
Did not see where the poster said anything about her daughter playing top 20 D1 . Reality is there are very few girls period, being recruited to play top 20
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/21/16 10:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm not claiming that at all. I'm good with you complaining about the unfair advantage, very noble and i agree, just tired of people coming on here having to tell us they have a D1 commit kid. We will never know if you have a D1 commit, its an anonymous site. Get it?


Yes ... but there was a point to it. Don't HAVE to tell you that. It helped make my point. I shall recede into the anonymous background now.


If you want to really see how bs are all these verbal commits that everyone likes to advertise can be go take a picture of the various list from 2013/14/15 and then go try and find them on that roster as freshman or sophs - I think you will be blown away at the amount that never get there or are gone after one year (for a variety of reasons)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/22/16 10:06 AM
She did a high school tournament and they were looking at another girl and saw her. They gave her money as well because of her academics. Very good athlete and scholar
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/22/16 01:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
She did a high school tournament and they were looking at another girl and saw her. They gave her money as well because of her academics. Very good athlete and scholar


Wow, if I were you - I would have bought a lottery ticket.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/22/16 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did not see where the poster said anything about her daughter playing top 20 D1 . Reality is there are very few girls period, being recruited to play top 20
about 200 to be precise assuming 20 teams x 10 recruits per school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/22/16 07:43 PM
Come on really. So that means one person that you don't know got into a D1 school. I guess it doesn't happen. Why would I lie. I'm proud to tell people that cause it just happened to work out that way. I guess she's very lucky.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/22/16 09:01 PM
Good for you and your daughter. Take the good luck when you can get it, plenty of times you get the bad luck. Not to get personnel, but can you give us the range of the D1 school(top 30/40) etc? Thanks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/23/16 10:08 AM
It's in the top 30. Could not be happier for her. All her hard work on and off the field payed off for her. Plus the fact that she plays is even better. I guess you can call it a fairytale ending. She got the best of both worlds. Just don't get caught up in the travel teams. Not saying they are bad but just pick and choose where you kid goes even if she gets mad at you. Be realistic in the evaluation of your child and things will work out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/23/16 02:27 PM
Just want to make sure i have the facts straight, before i quit travel lax. She didnt play travel, was playing at a hs tournament with her hs team and got academic and athletic money? Does she play for a really good hs team? Is she like a 100+ gpa/1600 sat kid? Like i said i'm on the fence about wasting a lot of money on travel lax with painful parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/23/16 03:10 PM
[quote=Anonymous]Just want to make sure i have the facts straight, before i quit travel lax. She didnt play travel, was playing at a hs tournament with her hs team and got academic and athletic money? Does she play for a really good hs team? Is she like a 100+ gpa/1600 sat kid? Like i said i'm on the fence about wasting a lot of money on travel lax with painful parents. [/quote

If you are on the fence and your kid could take or leave it I would quit and invest the money in tutoring, AP classes and focus on academics. Much better ROI in my opinion.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/23/16 11:18 PM
Yes big high school. Always in playoffs. But don't get me wrong I am not saying travel isn't good I'm just saying I know of alot of kids that didn't do travel that went to good D1 and D2 schools that are good local schools. I guess it depends on what you want to do for your child. I pulled my other kids out of travel and they now only play for the high school and I got them on a team that is doing some recruiting tournaments. You just have to really evaluate you child and do what you think is best for her or him. My other kids played travel for five years and now I took them out. I. Saving alot of money and the tournaments they are going to is reasonable. The best part is I have a life again.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/25/16 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did not see where the poster said anything about her daughter playing top 20 D1 . Reality is there are very few girls period, being recruited to play top 20



Maybe I am a whack job, but is anyone else out there trying to talk their daughter out of playing in college???? my 2019 looks borderline D1, more likely D3. but in either case working your butt off, all the early mornings, workouts, fall tournaments.. I just don't see the value... each your there's what 3 programs (MD, UNC, SU) that have a chance to win it all?? everyone else is playing exhibition lacrosse almost right?

why not enjoy college, get some great grades, make friends beyond the 35 girls on the roster, things like that. gonna be many years of getting up early and going off to work after school, in the real world..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/25/16 03:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did not see where the poster said anything about her daughter playing top 20 D1 . Reality is there are very few girls period, being recruited to play top 20



Maybe I am a whack job, but is anyone else out there trying to talk their daughter out of playing in college???? my 2019 looks borderline D1, more likely D3. but in either case working your butt off, all the early mornings, workouts, fall tournaments.. I just don't see the value... each your there's what 3 programs (MD, UNC, SU) that have a chance to win it all?? everyone else is playing exhibition lacrosse almost right?

why not enjoy college, get some great grades, make friends beyond the 35 girls on the roster, things like that. gonna be many years of getting up early and going off to work after school, in the real world..


All fair points, we know a handful of 2014's that quit after their freshman year. Most were in tough majors and couldn't handle the workload. None where top D1 though. A few who where considered studs in HS never saw the field in a game. I think a lot depends on the individual and situation. The girls we know where not getting any or little athletic money and felt it just wasn't worth it and were missing out.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/25/16 10:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did not see where the poster said anything about her daughter playing top 20 D1 . Reality is there are very few girls period, being recruited to play top 20



Maybe I am a whack job, but is anyone else out there trying to talk their daughter out of playing in college???? my 2019 looks borderline D1, more likely D3. but in either case working your butt off, all the early mornings, workouts, fall tournaments.. I just don't see the value... each your there's what 3 programs (MD, UNC, SU) that have a chance to win it all?? everyone else is playing exhibition lacrosse almost right?

why not enjoy college, get some great grades, make friends beyond the 35 girls on the roster, things like that. gonna be many years of getting up early and going off to work after school, in the real world..


I guess you don't see the value in competing and working toward common goals. It isn't for everyone. I played a D3 sport and those games/practices/bus rides and teammates are some of my best memories of college. I learned great life lessons and challenged myself. There was no national championship we were chasing, we just loved to compete. It's too bad that that is lost on people. And I really enjoyed college, got some good grades, made friends beyond the 22 on my roster and things like that. I went on to graduate school, have had a fulfilling career and a great family. And I know for sure my life would be less full without the friends and experiences I had playing college sports. Is it the end all be all, probably not, but it is a very great thing for very many and emphatically disagree with your construct that there is no value in it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/27/16 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did not see where the poster said anything about her daughter playing top 20 D1 . Reality is there are very few girls period, being recruited to play top 20



Maybe I am a whack job, but is anyone else out there trying to talk their daughter out of playing in college???? my 2019 looks borderline D1, more likely D3. but in either case working your butt off, all the early mornings, workouts, fall tournaments.. I just don't see the value... each your there's what 3 programs (MD, UNC, SU) that have a chance to win it all?? everyone else is playing exhibition lacrosse almost right?

why not enjoy college, get some great grades, make friends beyond the 35 girls on the roster, things like that. gonna be many years of getting up early and going off to work after school, in the real world..


I guess you don't see the value in competing and working toward common goals. It isn't for everyone. I played a D3 sport and those games/practices/bus rides and teammates are some of my best memories of college. I learned great life lessons and challenged myself. There was no national championship we were chasing, we just loved to compete. It's too bad that that is lost on people. And I really enjoyed college, got some good grades, made friends beyond the 22 on my roster and things like that. I went on to graduate school, have had a fulfilling career and a great family. And I know for sure my life would be less full without the friends and experiences I had playing college sports. Is it the end all be all, probably not, but it is a very great thing for very many and emphatically disagree with your construct that there is no value in it.

I think you both have some very valid points. And when I do mention considering D3 for my daughter - I am treated almost like a pariah by a bunch of parents from her club team. Also coming from a D3 school and then onto grad school - I still have not lost sight of nor forgotten about why I went to college. Well, after the parties and all that - there was the education. Putting the education below lacrosse on the schools' criteria list totally baffles me.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/28/16 02:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did not see where the poster said anything about her daughter playing top 20 D1 . Reality is there are very few girls period, being recruited to play top 20



Maybe I am a whack job, but is anyone else out there trying to talk their daughter out of playing in college???? my 2019 looks borderline D1, more likely D3. but in either case working your butt off, all the early mornings, workouts, fall tournaments.. I just don't see the value... each your there's what 3 programs (MD, UNC, SU) that have a chance to win it all?? everyone else is playing exhibition lacrosse almost right?

why not enjoy college, get some great grades, make friends beyond the 35 girls on the roster, things like that. gonna be many years of getting up early and going off to work after school, in the real world..


I guess you don't see the value in competing and working toward common goals. It isn't for everyone. I played a D3 sport and those games/practices/bus rides and teammates are some of my best memories of college. I learned great life lessons and challenged myself. There was no national championship we were chasing, we just loved to compete. It's too bad that that is lost on people. And I really enjoyed college, got some good grades, made friends beyond the 22 on my roster and things like that. I went on to graduate school, have had a fulfilling career and a great family. And I know for sure my life would be less full without the friends and experiences I had playing college sports. Is it the end all be all, probably not, but it is a very great thing for very many and emphatically disagree with your construct that there is no value in it.

I think you both have some very valid points. And when I do mention considering D3 for my daughter - I am treated almost like a pariah by a bunch of parents from her club team. Also coming from a D3 school and then onto grad school - I still have not lost sight of nor forgotten about why I went to college. Well, after the parties and all that - there was the education. Putting the education below lacrosse on the schools' criteria list totally baffles me.


oh so you ending up actually talking to some of the psycho lax parents?? sounds rough yeah. I bring my son and a football and steer clear of the cat fights..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/28/16 09:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did not see where the poster said anything about her daughter playing top 20 D1 . Reality is there are very few girls period, being recruited to play top 20



Maybe I am a whack job, but is anyone else out there trying to talk their daughter out of playing in college???? my 2019 looks borderline D1, more likely D3. but in either case working your butt off, all the early mornings, workouts, fall tournaments.. I just don't see the value... each your there's what 3 programs (MD, UNC, SU) that have a chance to win it all?? everyone else is playing exhibition lacrosse almost right?

why not enjoy college, get some great grades, make friends beyond the 35 girls on the roster, things like that. gonna be many years of getting up early and going off to work after school, in the real world..


I guess you don't see the value in competing and working toward common goals. It isn't for everyone. I played a D3 sport and those games/practices/bus rides and teammates are some of my best memories of college. I learned great life lessons and challenged myself. There was no national championship we were chasing, we just loved to compete. It's too bad that that is lost on people. And I really enjoyed college, got some good grades, made friends beyond the 22 on my roster and things like that. I went on to graduate school, have had a fulfilling career and a great family. And I know for sure my life would be less full without the friends and experiences I had playing college sports. Is it the end all be all, probably not, but it is a very great thing for very many and emphatically disagree with your construct that there is no value in it.

I think you both have some very valid points. And when I do mention considering D3 for my daughter - I am treated almost like a pariah by a bunch of parents from her club team. Also coming from a D3 school and then onto grad school - I still have not lost sight of nor forgotten about why I went to college. Well, after the parties and all that - there was the education. Putting the education below lacrosse on the schools' criteria list totally baffles me.


oh so you ending up actually talking to some of the psycho lax parents?? sounds rough yeah. I bring my son and a football and steer clear of the cat fights..



It's mostly YJ parents that look down on anyone who wants to play D3, did play D3 or just wants to play for fun. They are very shallow and can only have a meaningful life if Little YJ'er plays D1 for a top 1 team. To them, anything else is total failure and they are banished from the YJ community by CR herself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/28/16 11:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did not see where the poster said anything about her daughter playing top 20 D1 . Reality is there are very few girls period, being recruited to play top 20



Maybe I am a whack job, but is anyone else out there trying to talk their daughter out of playing in college???? my 2019 looks borderline D1, more likely D3. but in either case working your butt off, all the early mornings, workouts, fall tournaments.. I just don't see the value... each your there's what 3 programs (MD, UNC, SU) that have a chance to win it all?? everyone else is playing exhibition lacrosse almost right?

why not enjoy college, get some great grades, make friends beyond the 35 girls on the roster, things like that. gonna be many years of getting up early and going off to work after school, in the real world..


I guess you don't see the value in competing and working toward common goals. It isn't for everyone. I played a D3 sport and those games/practices/bus rides and teammates are some of my best memories of college. I learned great life lessons and challenged myself. There was no national championship we were chasing, we just loved to compete. It's too bad that that is lost on people. And I really enjoyed college, got some good grades, made friends beyond the 22 on my roster and things like that. I went on to graduate school, have had a fulfilling career and a great family. And I know for sure my life would be less full without the friends and experiences I had playing college sports. Is it the end all be all, probably not, but it is a very great thing for very many and emphatically disagree with your construct that there is no value in it.

I think you both have some very valid points. And when I do mention considering D3 for my daughter - I am treated almost like a pariah by a bunch of parents from her club team. Also coming from a D3 school and then onto grad school - I still have not lost sight of nor forgotten about why I went to college. Well, after the parties and all that - there was the education. Putting the education below lacrosse on the schools' criteria list totally baffles me.


oh so you ending up actually talking to some of the psycho lax parents?? sounds rough yeah. I bring my son and a football and steer clear of the cat fights..



It's mostly YJ parents that look down on anyone who wants to play D3, did play D3 or just wants to play for fun. They are very shallow and can only have a meaningful life if Little YJ'er plays D1 for a top 1 team. To them, anything else is total failure and they are banished from the YJ community by CR herself.


A very large amount of these kids (and more appropriately their parents) are being set up for a big disappointment
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/29/16 11:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did not see where the poster said anything about her daughter playing top 20 D1 . Reality is there are very few girls period, being recruited to play top 20



Maybe I am a whack job, but is anyone else out there trying to talk their daughter out of playing in college???? my 2019 looks borderline D1, more likely D3. but in either case working your butt off, all the early mornings, workouts, fall tournaments.. I just don't see the value... each your there's what 3 programs (MD, UNC, SU) that have a chance to win it all?? everyone else is playing exhibition lacrosse almost right?

why not enjoy college, get some great grades, make friends beyond the 35 girls on the roster, things like that. gonna be many years of getting up early and going off to work after school, in the real world..


I guess you don't see the value in competing and working toward common goals. It isn't for everyone. I played a D3 sport and those games/practices/bus rides and teammates are some of my best memories of college. I learned great life lessons and challenged myself. There was no national championship we were chasing, we just loved to compete. It's too bad that that is lost on people. And I really enjoyed college, got some good grades, made friends beyond the 22 on my roster and things like that. I went on to graduate school, have had a fulfilling career and a great family. And I know for sure my life would be less full without the friends and experiences I had playing college sports. Is it the end all be all, probably not, but it is a very great thing for very many and emphatically disagree with your construct that there is no value in it.

I think you both have some very valid points. And when I do mention considering D3 for my daughter - I am treated almost like a pariah by a bunch of parents from her club team. Also coming from a D3 school and then onto grad school - I still have not lost sight of nor forgotten about why I went to college. Well, after the parties and all that - there was the education. Putting the education below lacrosse on the schools' criteria list totally baffles me.


oh so you ending up actually talking to some of the psycho lax parents?? sounds rough yeah. I bring my son and a football and steer clear of the cat fights..



It's mostly YJ parents that look down on anyone who wants to play D3, did play D3 or just wants to play for fun. They are very shallow and can only have a meaningful life if Little YJ'er plays D1 for a top 1 team. To them, anything else is total failure and they are banished from the YJ community by CR herself.


Umm, not sure if you were aware of it but CR played D3 so I am not sure how much sense you are making. Nice try though !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/29/16 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]
why not enjoy college, get some great grades, make friends beyond the 35 girls on the roster, things like that. gonna be many years of getting up early and going off to work after school, in the real world..


I guess you don't see the value in competing and working toward common goals. It isn't for everyone. I played a D3 sport and those games/practices/bus rides and teammates are some of my best memories of college. I learned great life lessons and challenged myself. There was no national championship we were chasing, we just loved to compete. It's too bad that that is lost on people. And I really enjoyed college, got some good grades, made friends beyond the 22 on my roster and things like that. I went on to graduate school, have had a fulfilling career and a great family. And I know for sure my life would be less full without the friends and experiences I had playing college sports. Is it the end all be all, probably not, but it is a very great thing for very many and emphatically disagree with your construct that there is no value in it.

I think you both have some very valid points. And when I do mention considering D3 for my daughter - I am treated almost like a pariah by a bunch of parents from her club team. Also coming from a D3 school and then onto grad school - I still have not lost sight of nor forgotten about why I went to college. Well, after the parties and all that - there was the education. Putting the education below lacrosse on the schools' criteria list totally baffles me.


oh so you ending up actually talking to some of the psycho lax parents?? sounds rough yeah. I bring my son and a football and steer clear of the cat fights..



It's mostly YJ parents that look down on anyone who wants to play D3, did play D3 or just wants to play for fun. They are very shallow and can only have a meaningful life if Little YJ'er plays D1 for a top 1 team. To them, anything else is total failure and they are banished from the YJ community by CR herself.


Umm, not sure if you were aware of it but CR played D3 so I am not sure how much sense you are making. Nice try though !

yeah what are you thinking??? she couldn't be nicer, and more accepting of girls at any level.. she's all about lifting everyone up / never plays favorites. come on now!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/29/16 05:23 PM
CR played D3? Was that before or after she joined WCW as Dusty Rhodes?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/29/16 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
CR played D3? Was that before or after she joined WCW as Dusty Rhodes?



literally spit out my coffee when I read that.. dead ringer. maybe bigger calfs but other than that spot on..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 03/29/16 08:58 PM
play nice in the sand box!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/05/16 10:25 PM
any recruiting news? It really has been quiet around the circuit. Quiet before the storm I suppose.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/06/16 01:13 AM
Umd got two top players from Heros and mnd. Done w 19s I hear.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/06/16 02:26 AM
BC got two top players from YJ 19 and 20
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/06/16 05:11 PM
STEPS 2019s, one to Northwestern and one to Notre Dame
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/06/16 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
STEPS 2019s, one to Northwestern and one to Notre Dame


Northwestern one is a few months old, correct? How about the ND commitment? Seems like during the season, there has been a trickle, after quite a few earlier on. Does that jive with what everyone else is hearing/seeing? I would guess into the summer it will pick up quite quickly again with the next wave?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/06/16 11:53 PM
Yes NW commit is a few months old. ND commit within last two weeks. Agree with the rest of your assessment other than at YJs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/07/16 04:10 PM
there are many, many more verbals happening than get published on the various sites.

many schools keep them close to the vest. MD just happens to very open about it. ND commit a good example- see it on any sites?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/07/16 05:23 PM
Yes, Yellow Jackets.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/07/16 09:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
there are many, many more verbals happening than get published on the various sites.

many schools keep them close to the vest. MD just happens to very open about it. ND commit a good example- see it on any sites?


Have never seen a commit played close to the vest.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/08/16 02:05 AM
Close to the vest? Yeah right
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/12/16 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
there are many, many more verbals happening than get published on the various sites.

many schools keep them close to the vest. MD just happens to very open about it. ND commit a good example- see it on any sites?


Have never seen a commit played close to the vest.


well here's your chance! just look at the one a poster mentioned above. the ND commit he claims is from STEPS... her verbal is not on the club website. You think they wouldn't walk to crow about that?? if ND says 'don't go public with the news'- what do think the kid is going to call WaveOne and have them write it up???

there is not full transparency in this.. like most any business.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/13/16 12:01 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
there are many, many more verbals happening than get published on the various sites.

many schools keep them close to the vest. MD just happens to very open about it. ND commit a good example- see it on any sites?


Have never seen a commit played close to the vest.


well here's your chance! just look at the one a poster mentioned above. the ND commit he claims is from STEPS... her verbal is not on the club website. You think they wouldn't walk to crow about that?? if ND says 'don't go public with the news'- what do think the kid is going to call WaveOne and have them write it up???

there is not full transparency in this.. like most any business.
I assure you she is committed to ND. Don't know why it is not on website. Defender and very good player.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/13/16 12:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
there are many, many more verbals happening than get published on the various sites.

many schools keep them close to the vest. MD just happens to very open about it. ND commit a good example- see it on any sites?


Have never seen a commit played close to the vest.


well here's your chance! just look at the one a poster mentioned above. the ND commit he claims is from STEPS... her verbal is not on the club website. You think they wouldn't walk to crow about that?? if ND says 'don't go public with the news'- what do think the kid is going to call WaveOne and have them write it up???

there is not full transparency in this.. like most any business.


It was sent out on social media so I do not think it was played close to the vest. Just sayin
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/13/16 01:10 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
there are many, many more verbals happening than get published on the various sites.

many schools keep them close to the vest. MD just happens to very open about it. ND commit a good example- see it on any sites?


Have never seen a commit played close to the vest.


well here's your chance! just look at the one a poster mentioned above. the ND commit he claims is from STEPS... her verbal is not on the club website. You think they wouldn't walk to crow about that?? if ND says 'don't go public with the news'- what do think the kid is going to call WaveOne and have them write it up???

there is not full transparency in this.. like most any business.


It was sent out on social media so I do not think it was played close to the vest. Just sayin



Social Media??? are you following 16 year olds on instagram and snapchat? maybe a little creepy..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/13/16 01:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
there are many, many more verbals happening than get published on the various sites.

many schools keep them close to the vest. MD just happens to very open about it. ND commit a good example- see it on any sites?


Have never seen a commit played close to the vest.


well here's your chance! just look at the one a poster mentioned above. the ND commit he claims is from STEPS... her verbal is not on the club website. You think they wouldn't walk to crow about that?? if ND says 'don't go public with the news'- what do think the kid is going to call WaveOne and have them write it up???

there is not full transparency in this.. like most any business.
I assure you she is committed to ND. Don't know why it is not on website. Defender and very good player.


We got it proud club Dad. sure she is a terrific player. no one is dissing your player there..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/13/16 01:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
there are many, many more verbals happening than get published on the various sites.

many schools keep them close to the vest. MD just happens to very open about it. ND commit a good example- see it on any sites?


Have never seen a commit played close to the vest.


well here's your chance! just look at the one a poster mentioned above. the ND commit he claims is from STEPS... her verbal is not on the club website. You think they wouldn't walk to crow about that?? if ND says 'don't go public with the news'- what do think the kid is going to call WaveOne and have them write it up???

there is not full transparency in this.. like most any business.
I assure you she is committed to ND. Don't know why it is not on website. Defender and very good player.


We got it proud club Dad. sure she is a terrific player. no one is dissing your player there..
proud club Mom thank you anonymous hater
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/13/16 01:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
there are many, many more verbals happening than get published on the various sites.

many schools keep them close to the vest. MD just happens to very open about it. ND commit a good example- see it on any sites?


Have never seen a commit played close to the vest.



well its not on the club site. and clearly those folks think of themselves as a front line club, so they would obviously like to out in on the site. especially given they only have one 2019 commit listed. YJ has what 9??

well here's your chance! just look at the one a poster mentioned above. the ND commit he claims is from STEPS... her verbal is not on the club website. You think they wouldn't walk to crow about that?? if ND says 'don't go public with the news'- what do think the kid is going to call WaveOne and have them write it up???

there is not full transparency in this.. like most any business.


It was sent out on social media so I do not think it was played close to the vest. Just sayin
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/13/16 02:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
there are many, many more verbals happening than get published on the various sites.

many schools keep them close to the vest. MD just happens to very open about it. ND commit a good example- see it on any sites?


Have never seen a commit played close to the vest.


well here's your chance! just look at the one a poster mentioned above. the ND commit he claims is from STEPS... her verbal is not on the club website. You think they wouldn't walk to crow about that?? if ND says 'don't go public with the news'- what do think the kid is going to call WaveOne and have them write it up???

there is not full transparency in this.. like most any business.
I assure you she is committed to ND. Don't know why it is not on website. Defender and very good player.


We got it proud club Dad. sure she is a terrific player. no one is dissing your player there..
proud club Mom thank you anonymous hater


as I said, not dissing your player in any way. I'll step off club Mom..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/13/16 01:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
there are many, many more verbals happening than get published on the various sites.

many schools keep them close to the vest. MD just happens to very open about it. ND commit a good example- see it on any sites?


Have never seen a commit played close to the vest.


well here's your chance! just look at the one a poster mentioned above. the ND commit he claims is from STEPS... her verbal is not on the club website. You think they wouldn't walk to crow about that?? if ND says 'don't go public with the news'- what do think the kid is going to call WaveOne and have them write it up???

there is not full transparency in this.. like most any business.
I assure you she is committed to ND. Don't know why it is not on website. Defender and very good player.


We got it proud club Dad. sure she is a terrific player. no one is dissing your player there..
proud club Mom thank you anonymous hater


do NOT tangle with Lax Mom. like stumbling upon a hungry Grizzly bear with new cubs. gonna get your face ripped off at best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/15/16 02:50 AM
Heard another heros to unc. 2 umd and 2 unc I believe now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 04/15/16 01:31 PM
Also 1 to U of F and to Michigan from TG
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/24/16 05:09 PM
Is there a site that posts these 2019 committments
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/24/16 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there a site that posts these 2019 committments



suddenly these big hitters that saw it on "social media" go kind of quiet. just trying to rationalize the 3k they spend a year on Club I guess..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/24/16 07:11 PM
Heros are crushing the commitments.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/24/16 07:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heros are crushing the commitments.



heck yeah Lax Dad. heard they got like almost every 2019 tucked away at an ACC program.. just slayin it!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/24/16 08:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is there a site that posts these 2019 committments
Look at club websites. Many post their commitments like Yellow Jackets, M&D, STEPS, etc. Or look at laxpower.com although their data is a bit spotty.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/24/16 11:59 PM
Heros is a terrible organization. Parent coaches, total disaster. Amateur hour.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/25/16 04:18 PM
Either daughter got cut or you are sick and tired of losing to heros. First class organization!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/28/16 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heros is a terrible organization. Parent coaches, total disaster. Amateur hour.


LOL. Was your daughter on one of the teams that Hero's 2019 rolled over at Hofstra last summer? I caught part of one of their games - their parents looked mostly bored and their coaches did not seem interested in running up the score. So, what's your problem with Hero's 2019? What we were wondering about was why they would bother travelling up to the Island and not play YJ Blue. That is a game that we would have loved to watch.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/28/16 02:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heros are crushing the commitments.



heck yeah Lax Dad. heard they got like almost every 2019 tucked away at an ACC program.. just slayin it!!!!


Maryland is Big10.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/28/16 03:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heros is a terrible organization. Parent coaches, total disaster. Amateur hour.


LOL. Was your daughter on one of the teams that Hero's 2019 rolled over at Hofstra last summer? I caught part of one of their games - their parents looked mostly bored and their coaches did not seem interested in running up the score. So, what's your problem with Hero's 2019? What we were wondering about was why they would bother travelling up to the Island and not play YJ Blue. That is a game that we would have loved to watch.


TG & YJ top 2019 teams were both at U-15 last year, if you're planning to come to LI again this summer TG & YJ 2019 & 2020 wont be there, will be at U-15 again

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/28/16 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heros is a terrible organization. Parent coaches, total disaster. Amateur hour.


LOL. Was your daughter on one of the teams that Hero's 2019 rolled over at Hofstra last summer? I caught part of one of their games - their parents looked mostly bored and their coaches did not seem interested in running up the score. So, what's your problem with Hero's 2019? What we were wondering about was why they would bother travelling up to the Island and not play YJ Blue. That is a game that we would have loved to watch.

theyll be back for Hofstra
TG & YJ top 2019 teams were both at U-15 last year, if you're planning to come to LI again this summer TG & YJ 2019 & 2020 wont be there, will be at U-15 again

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/28/16 08:48 PM
Carro no match for heros nor is mnd. The rest who cares
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/29/16 12:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heros is a terrible organization. Parent coaches, total disaster. Amateur hour.


LOL. Was your daughter on one of the teams that Hero's 2019 rolled over at Hofstra last summer? I caught part of one of their games - their parents looked mostly bored and their coaches did not seem interested in running up the score. So, what's your problem with Hero's 2019? What we were wondering about was why they would bother travelling up to the Island and not play YJ Blue. That is a game that we would have loved to watch.


TG & YJ top 2019 teams were both at U-15 last year, if you're planning to come to LI again this summer TG & YJ 2019 & 2020 wont be there, will be at U-15 again



Think about that for a minute.......... The Hofstra women's coach runs a summer tournament, asking all these teams to come play, at the same time the TG director is sending her best teams/players out of town for the U15's. Would you be upset if you sent your club teams to drive up from MD to find uncompetitive games because many of the better teams are out of town?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/29/16 02:24 AM
Heros going to U15?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/29/16 12:44 PM
Do any of the top Maryland teams go to the U15?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/29/16 01:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Do any of the top Maryland teams go to the U15?


It would be too much effort. If the established graduating class teams were to go, too many players would be over the age limit, to put in an existing team they would have to reach down a graduating class and thus have a harder time competing. They could just have try outs and slap together the correct aged girls but then you lose all chemistry and hierarchy of team structure. It's a tough spot to be in, but would love for them to figure it out and represent themselves somehow.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/29/16 01:43 PM
U15 is a waste of time. Could have a local tournament w top md teams for national championship recognition if that's what parents cared about here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/29/16 03:34 PM
I understand that, but wouldn't the md teams want to shut everybody up once and for all?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/29/16 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
U15 is a waste of time. Could have a local tournament w top md teams for national championship recognition if that's what parents cared about here.


That's basically what happens during the un sanctioned summer tournaments, and the Maryland teams represent very well. But these tournaments use the US lacrosse rules very loosely ( including the age restrictions) because USLax has no teeth. The new age cutoff dates by US Lax are supposed to be adopted by all the summer tournaments running under the USL banner which includes the insurance for these tournaments. But they likely never will. I do notice over the many years how most tournaments rise and fall in and out of favor, but the U 13, U14, and U15's is the National governing body's Championship, and will remain. You can shy away from it all you want, but the club dominating it, likely would either way.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/29/16 05:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heros is a terrible organization. Parent coaches, total disaster. Amateur hour.


LOL. Was your daughter on one of the teams that Hero's 2019 rolled over at Hofstra last summer? I caught part of one of their games - their parents looked mostly bored and their coaches did not seem interested in running up the score. So, what's your problem with Hero's 2019? What we were wondering about was why they would bother travelling up to the Island and not play YJ Blue. That is a game that we would have loved to watch.


TG & YJ top 2019 teams were both at U-15 last year, if you're planning to come to LI again this summer TG & YJ 2019 & 2020 wont be there, will be at U-15 again



Think about that for a minute.......... The Hofstra women's coach runs a summer tournament, asking all these teams to come play, at the same time the TG director is sending her best teams/players out of town for the U15's. Would you be upset if you sent your club teams to drive up from MD to find uncompetitive games because many of the better teams are out of town?


TG and YJ summer tourneys on LI are nothing more than fund raisers for the clubs - absolutely no competitive games, most are TG vs TG and YJ vs YJ, why would anyone come from out of town for that?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/29/16 06:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Carro no match for heros nor is mnd. The rest who cares

Didn't Carro lose by a goal to Heros at G8?

That's no match?

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 01:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Carro no match for heros nor is mnd. The rest who cares


Why rest who cares? I think you are in for a surprise or two ... See you this summer ... btw, bring your daughters' birth certificates and we will bring ours, so when our girls beat yours w a 100pct on age team it will be even more embarrassing for you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 03:35 AM
When losses mount, pull out the old age excuse. Be glad to show birth certificates but not to someone trying to make excuses for their child's team. No girls in md doing this but glad it makes you feel better!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 07:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When losses mount, pull out the old age excuse. Be glad to show birth certificates but not to someone trying to make excuses for their child's team. No girls in md doing this but glad it makes you feel better!!


No girls in MD doing this? pre-first is a almost a requirement there for the privates. Come on man.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 07:55 PM
Last year at U15, Skywalkers 18 took 4th, losing to a year younger team. How is that possible? Rumor had it they didnt have all their big guns.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 09:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Last year at U15, Skywalkers 18 took 4th, losing to a year younger team. How is that possible? Rumor had it they didnt have all their big guns.


Because the committed girls didn't go. Waste of time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 09:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Carro no match for heros nor is mnd. The rest who cares

Didn't Carro lose by a goal to Heros at G8?

That's no match?



Did i miss when Heros 2019 beat M&D or YJ Blue in anything in the last couple years?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 09:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When losses mount, pull out the old age excuse. Be glad to show birth certificates but not to someone trying to make excuses for their child's team. No girls in md doing this but glad it makes you feel better!!


No girls in MD doing this? pre-first is a almost a requirement there for the privates. Come on man.


You're completely off base here. Pre-first is much more prevalent with the boys than the girls due to slower development. It is very rare when girls go to pre-first. All the boys schools have prefirst while the girls schools don't.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 09:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When losses mount, pull out the old age excuse. Be glad to show birth certificates but not to someone trying to make excuses for their child's team. No girls in md doing this but glad it makes you feel better!!


No girls in MD doing this? pre-first is a almost a requirement there for the privates. Come on man.


You're completely off base here. Pre-first is much more prevalent with the boys than the girls due to slower development. It is very rare when girls go to pre-first. All the boys schools have prefirst while the girls schools don't.


Ok. So will you guys be following the US lax age-based divisions going forward?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 09:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When losses mount, pull out the old age excuse. Be glad to show birth certificates but not to someone trying to make excuses for their child's team. No girls in md doing this but glad it makes you feel better!!


No girls in MD doing this? pre-first is a almost a requirement there for the privates. Come on man.


You're completely off base here. Pre-first is much more prevalent with the boys than the girls due to slower development. It is very rare when girls go to pre-first. All the boys schools have prefirst while the girls schools don't.


What is McDonough? The #1 girl's program in the country right? They have pre-first, don't they? I'll answer for you ... YES
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 09:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When losses mount, pull out the old age excuse. Be glad to show birth certificates but not to someone trying to make excuses for their child's team. No girls in md doing this but glad it makes you feel better!!


No girls in MD doing this? pre-first is a almost a requirement there for the privates. Come on man.


You're completely off base here. Pre-first is much more prevalent with the boys than the girls due to slower development. It is very rare when girls go to pre-first. All the boys schools have prefirst while the girls schools don't.


Know plenty of girls that have switched to private and repeated 8th grade too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 09:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When losses mount, pull out the old age excuse. Be glad to show birth certificates but not to someone trying to make excuses for their child's team. No girls in md doing this but glad it makes you feel better!!


No girls in MD doing this? pre-first is a almost a requirement there for the privates. Come on man.


You're completely off base here. Pre-first is much more prevalent with the boys than the girls due to slower development. It is very rare when girls go to pre-first. All the boys schools have prefirst while the girls schools don't.


Then just answer this question: How many girls on your daughter's club team would not conform to the new age-based cutoffs? For 2019's that is birthdays between 9/01/2000-8/31/2001. You will say you don't know, but I promise you there are more than a couple. For our team there is exactly 1. She stayed back and repeated 8th grade when she transferred to private. M&D -- want to venture a guess? I would bet at least a third of the roster, and likely some of the "best" players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 10:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When losses mount, pull out the old age excuse. Be glad to show birth certificates but not to someone trying to make excuses for their child's team. No girls in md doing this but glad it makes you feel better!!


No girls in MD doing this? pre-first is a almost a requirement there for the privates. Come on man.


You're completely off base here. Pre-first is much more prevalent with the boys than the girls due to slower development. It is very rare when girls go to pre-first. All the boys schools have prefirst while the girls schools don't.


What is McDonough? The #1 girl's program in the country right? They have pre-first, don't they? I'll answer for you ... YES


You're right. McDonogh does have prefirst. That's my point. That is the only school that has prefirst for girls. For Boys, BL and Gilman and St. Pauls does as well.

There is not a single girl on M&D 2021 that went to prefirst. I can't speak for the 2019 team.

And the person that said they know plenty of girls that have repeated 8th grade is full of it. That is just not a common practice with girls. Not a single girl on M&D 2020 was a 2019 last year and not a single girl on M&D 2020 will be on M&D 2021 next year.

Someone has been feeding you all bad information. For boys you would be absolutely correct. For girls, you're just making excuses.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/30/16 11:23 PM
If it were happening on the girls side, which its not. What do you say in high school and college when a girl is not 3 months older than your daughter but 3 years. Do you still complain and moan?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/31/16 12:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If it were happening on the girls side, which its not. What do you say in high school and college when a girl is not 3 months older than your daughter but 3 years. Do you still complain and moan?


big difference during the growth years when recruiting has pushed down into those years. By college it is not an issue. But with 12 & 13 year olds it absolutely is. Why do you think people do it??

Why don't you guys put a U15 team into the US Lacrosse tournament?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/31/16 12:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If it were happening on the girls side, which its not. What do you say in high school and college when a girl is not 3 months older than your daughter but 3 years. Do you still complain and moan?


big difference during the growth years when recruiting has pushed down into those years. By college it is not an issue. But with 12 & 13 year olds it absolutely is. Why do you think people do it??

Why don't you guys put a U15 team into the US Lacrosse tournament?


Because we spend the summer playing in 5 tournaments full of top teams. Why go to Indiana to play a bunch of crappy teams? Not like we don't get to play YJ enough without going out there. There are no college coaches there so what's the point? I'm sure Indiana is beautiful in July, but I'll pass.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/31/16 12:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When losses mount, pull out the old age excuse. Be glad to show birth certificates but not to someone trying to make excuses for their child's team. No girls in md doing this but glad it makes you feel better!!


No girls in MD doing this? pre-first is a almost a requirement there for the privates. Come on man.


You're completely off base here. Pre-first is much more prevalent with the boys than the girls due to slower development. It is very rare when girls go to pre-first. All the boys schools have prefirst while the girls schools don't.


What is McDonough? The #1 girl's program in the country right? They have pre-first, don't they? I'll answer for you ... YES


You're right. McDonogh does have prefirst. That's my point. That is the only school that has prefirst for girls. For Boys, BL and Gilman and St. Pauls does as well.

There is not a single girl on M&D 2021 that went to prefirst. I can't speak for the 2019 team.

And the person that said they know plenty of girls that have repeated 8th grade is full of it. That is just not a common practice with girls. Not a single girl on M&D 2020 was a 2019 last year and not a single girl on M&D 2020 will be on M&D 2021 next year.

Someone has been feeding you all bad information. For boys you would be absolutely correct. For girls, you're just making excuses.


It's a 2019 thread. Why don't we hear about the 2019s then. Pretty sure there are several "older" girls on that squad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/31/16 12:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
If it were happening on the girls side, which its not. What do you say in high school and college when a girl is not 3 months older than your daughter but 3 years. Do you still complain and moan?


big difference during the growth years when recruiting has pushed down into those years. By college it is not an issue. But with 12 & 13 year olds it absolutely is. Why do you think people do it??

Why don't you guys put a U15 team into the US Lacrosse tournament?


Because we spend the summer playing in 5 tournaments full of top teams. Why go to Indiana to play a bunch of crappy teams? Not like we don't get to play YJ enough without going out there. There are no college coaches there so what's the point? I'm sure Indiana is beautiful in July, but I'll pass.


Fair enough. 5 years from now, this is going to be somewhat moot anyway, as California will begin to dominate both MD and LI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/31/16 01:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When losses mount, pull out the old age excuse. Be glad to show birth certificates but not to someone trying to make excuses for their child's team. No girls in md doing this but glad it makes you feel better!!


No girls in MD doing this? pre-first is a almost a requirement there for the privates. Come on man.


You're completely off base here. Pre-first is much more prevalent with the boys than the girls due to slower development. It is very rare when girls go to pre-first. All the boys schools have prefirst while the girls schools don't.


What is McDonough? The #1 girl's program in the country right? They have pre-first, don't they? I'll answer for you ... YES


You're right. McDonogh does have prefirst. That's my point. That is the only school that has prefirst for girls. For Boys, BL and Gilman and St. Pauls does as well.

There is not a single girl on M&D 2021 that went to prefirst. I can't speak for the 2019 team.

And the person that said they know plenty of girls that have repeated 8th grade is full of it. That is just not a common practice with girls. Not a single girl on M&D 2020 was a 2019 last year and not a single girl on M&D 2020 will be on M&D 2021 next year.

Someone has been feeding you all bad information. For boys you would be absolutely correct. For girls, you're just making excuses.


It's a 2019 thread. Why don't we hear about the 2019s then. Pretty sure there are several "older" girls on that squad.


Are you saying that there are zero "older" girls on LI? You know that is not the case so I hope not.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/31/16 02:09 AM
Because we play the top teams in the country all year round. No need to play a team from Colorado to say we are the best. U15 etc is worthless.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/31/16 02:56 AM
Are you saying that there are zero "older" girls on LI? You know that is not the case so I hope not.[/quote]

Not saying that. Both LI and MD have many older girls. Silly really. But it will all even out in the end. Other regions have far fewer girls that play down an age group. US Lax is doing the right thing w the age divisions. Too bad there doesn't seem to be any enforcement mechanism for them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 05/31/16 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Because we play the top teams in the country all year round. No need to play a team from Colorado to say we are the best. U15 etc is worthless.
Agree U15 championship is a waste of time/money. Many of the best teams don;t even attend. G8, Capital Cup, etc. a much better use of time and money.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/01/16 12:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Because we play the top teams in the country all year round. No need to play a team from Colorado to say we are the best. U15 etc is worthless.
Agree U15 championship is a waste of time/money. Many of the best teams don;t even attend. G8, Capital Cup, etc. a much better use of time and money.


Same could be said for the junior and senior national teams about time, money, coaches. Etc......Yet every girl who plays lax aspires to be on those teams, honored by the same organization who crown the national championship of each age group. Been to any and all tournaments mentioned as better, and have won at all of them. Yes some offer better competition, but none of them are more fun and thrilling for the girls, not even close.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/06/16 04:27 PM
How did the worst YJ top team do this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/06/16 05:00 PM
Which is the "Worst" team?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/06/16 05:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which is the "Worst" team?


All I know is, Elevate 2019 went into MD this weekend and took down some of the top teams in a big way to win the summer classic. This Elevate team is one of the top teams in the country. We beat every team by at least 8 goals. Good defense, potent offense and good goaltending. When we joined Elevate Dave said that this was one of the top teams in the country. I think he is wrong. I think this is THE top team in this age group. Next week we are off to New England to take down the top teams up north. I have a feeling this team may not lose a game this summer!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/06/16 05:59 PM
Hahaha
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/06/16 07:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which is the "Worst" team?


All I know is, Elevate 2019 went into MD this weekend and took down some of the top teams in a big way to win the summer classic. This Elevate team is one of the top teams in the country. We beat every team by at least 8 goals. Good defense, potent offense and good goaltending. When we joined Elevate Dave said that this was one of the top teams in the country. I think he is wrong. I think this is THE top team in this age group. Next week we are off to New England to take down the top teams up north. I have a feeling this team may not lose a game this summer!



Elevate was in the Mid Atlantic Spring Championships at McD this weekend???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/06/16 07:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which is the "Worst" team?


All I know is, Elevate 2019 went into MD this weekend and took down some of the top teams in a big way to win the summer classic. This Elevate team is one of the top teams in the country. We beat every team by at least 8 goals. Good defense, potent offense and good goaltending. When we joined Elevate Dave said that this was one of the top teams in the country. I think he is wrong. I think this is THE top team in this age group. Next week we are off to New England to take down the top teams up north. I have a feeling this team may not lose a game this summer!



Elevate was in the Mid Atlantic Spring Championships at McD this weekend???


Of course not. They were up the road with all the C teams at Summer Classic
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/06/16 07:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which is the "Worst" team?


All I know is, Elevate 2019 went into MD this weekend and took down some of the top teams in a big way to win the summer classic. This Elevate team is one of the top teams in the country. We beat every team by at least 8 goals. Good defense, potent offense and good goaltending. When we joined Elevate Dave said that this was one of the top teams in the country. I think he is wrong. I think this is THE top team in this age group. Next week we are off to New England to take down the top teams up north. I have a feeling this team may not lose a game this summer!


Is this for real?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/06/16 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which is the "Worst" team?


All I know is, Elevate 2019 went into MD this weekend and took down some of the top teams in a big way to win the summer classic. This Elevate team is one of the top teams in the country. We beat every team by at least 8 goals. Good defense, potent offense and good goaltending. When we joined Elevate Dave said that this was one of the top teams in the country. I think he is wrong. I think this is THE top team in this age group. Next week we are off to New England to take down the top teams up north. I have a feeling this team may not lose a game this summer!



Elevate was in the Mid Atlantic Spring Championships at McD this weekend???



That's a question I have too. On the Elevate forum someone claimed they went to MD and beat up on the MD teams, but the only tournament I'm aware of in MD this past weekend was the Mid-Atlantic. I don't see them listed on the schedule.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/06/16 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which is the "Worst" team?


All I know is, Elevate 2019 went into MD this weekend and took down some of the top teams in a big way to win the summer classic. This Elevate team is one of the top teams in the country. We beat every team by at least 8 goals. Good defense, potent offense and good goaltending. When we joined Elevate Dave said that this was one of the top teams in the country. I think he is wrong. I think this is THE top team in this age group. Next week we are off to New England to take down the top teams up north. I have a feeling this team may not lose a game this summer!



Elevate was in the Mid Atlantic Spring Championships at McD this weekend???



That's a question I have too. On the Elevate forum someone claimed they went to MD and beat up on the MD teams, but the only tournament I'm aware of in MD this past weekend was the Mid-Atlantic. I don't see them listed on the schedule.


They are coming up north to play and will absolutely, 100pct guarantee will lose a game. I will report back for you. Promise they will not win all their games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/06/16 10:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which is the "Worst" team?


All I know is, Elevate 2019 went into MD this weekend and took down some of the top teams in a big way to win the summer classic. This Elevate team is one of the top teams in the country. We beat every team by at least 8 goals. Good defense, potent offense and good goaltending. When we joined Elevate Dave said that this was one of the top teams in the country. I think he is wrong. I think this is THE top team in this age group. Next week we are off to New England to take down the top teams up north. I have a feeling this team may not lose a game this summer!



Elevate was in the Mid Atlantic Spring Championships at McD this weekend???



That's a question I have too. On the Elevate forum someone claimed they went to MD and beat up on the MD teams, but the only tournament I'm aware of in MD this past weekend was the Mid-Atlantic. I don't see them listed on the schedule.


They are coming up north to play and will absolutely, 100pct guarantee will lose a game. I will report back for you. Promise they will not win all their games.



Okay, I found where they went. They went to the Summer Classic. NO top teams there. I recognize two...API (sucks) and Bay Area (not good). The rest of the teams are unknown to me. "Congrats" Elevate.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/07/16 03:11 AM
Elevate may crack top 10 but that's a stretch
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/07/16 03:22 AM
Who won the mid Atlantic in the 19 age group?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/07/16 09:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Which is the "Worst" team?


All I know is, Elevate 2019 went into MD this weekend and took down some of the top teams in a big way to win the summer classic. This Elevate team is one of the top teams in the country. We beat every team by at least 8 goals. Good defense, potent offense and good goaltending. When we joined Elevate Dave said that this was one of the top teams in the country. I think he is wrong. I think this is THE top team in this age group. Next week we are off to New England to take down the top teams up north. I have a feeling this team may not lose a game this summer!



Elevate was in the Mid Atlantic Spring Championships at McD this weekend???



That's a question I have too. On the Elevate forum someone claimed they went to MD and beat up on the MD teams, but the only tournament I'm aware of in MD this past weekend was the Mid-Atlantic. I don't see them listed on the schedule.


They are coming up north to play and will absolutely, 100pct guarantee will lose a game. I will report back for you. Promise they will not win all their games.



Okay, I found where they went. They went to the Summer Classic. NO top teams there. I recognize two...API (sucks) and Bay Area (not good). The rest of the teams are unknown to me. "Congrats" Elevate.


Who did Elevate play? I thought all the Maryland teams were at the Mid-Atlantic. Well, at least the teams worth the $100 in tolls to play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/07/16 01:02 PM
YJ Carro must have had a tough weekend with all the good Maryland teams down at the Mid-Atlantic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/07/16 01:47 PM
Still waiting to hear who is the "worst" YJ team?
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still waiting to hear who is the "worst" YJ team?


You will be waiting a long time.. If someone answers your idiotic question, it won't get posted.. Don't you have anything in your life that brings you joy? Leave the kids alone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/07/16 02:00 PM
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still waiting to hear who is the "worst" YJ team?


You will be waiting a long time.. If someone answers your idiotic question, it won't get posted.. Don't you have anything in your life that brings you joy? Leave the kids alone.


I think that was a question, implying that it was answered over the weekend. I could be wrong though - hard to follow some of the asinine banter on here sometimes.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Still waiting to hear who is the "worst" YJ team?


You will be waiting a long time.. If someone answers your idiotic question, it won't get posted.. Don't you have anything in your life that brings you joy? Leave the kids alone.


I think that was a question, implying that it was answered over the weekend. I could be wrong though - hard to follow some of the asinine banter on here sometimes.


Really hard to follow sometimes. Your advantage is that you know the teams.. I have to work hard to figure it all out BUT I have also deleted a few of that type of post.. Someone trying to stir up garbage.

Thanks for your help, though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/07/16 02:48 PM
When multiple people said earlier "YJs worst team"...that's why I had asked. Obviously other teams are ranked A and B...YJ is just last names.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/07/16 03:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When multiple people said earlier "YJs worst team"...that's why I had asked. Obviously other teams are ranked A and B...YJ is just last names.


If your daughter's team has had the privilege of playing any of the YJ 2019 teams - you would not need to ask that question.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When multiple people said earlier "YJs worst team"...that's why I had asked. Obviously other teams are ranked A and B...YJ is just last names.


It is ugly and makes people feel bad.. No need for that at all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/07/16 03:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
When multiple people said earlier "YJs worst team"...that's why I had asked. Obviously other teams are ranked A and B...YJ is just last names.


I think that one was saying that YJ's top 2019 team is the weakest of the YJ top teams within their age group - that they don't stand out like some of the other graduation years.

When YJ first went from colors to names they listed the teams in order on their website - I think that's still the case.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/10/16 10:45 AM
Hero's got beat by Skywalkers and completely spanked by YJ.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/10/16 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hero's got beat by Skywalkers and completely spanked by YJ.


Is that the same heros team as last year? Did they lose any players?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/10/16 02:32 PM
Where is everyone going this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/10/16 06:06 PM
Summer genesis in PA. anyone familiar with this one??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/10/16 06:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Summer genesis in PA. anyone familiar with this one??
Yes, best tournament this weekend in terms of best teams/best college coaches for sure
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/10/16 07:49 PM
better than the Mass tourn?...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/10/16 08:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
better than the Mass tourn?...


That's a PAL event
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/11/16 01:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
better than the Mass tourn?...


That's a PAL event


For a PAL event sure are a lot of good college coaching staffs there ...
NU, BC, ND, Duke, Florida, USC, many of the Ivies and many more D1 schools along w most of the good D3 schools including just about every NESCAC school ... Must be a few good PAL teams there? What team does your kid play for?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/11/16 10:00 PM
Mass tournament is an IWLCA tournament. Just about every college has a coach here. Idiots.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/11/16 11:14 PM
Cheapest of cheap shots in heros yj game today. Teach a different game on LI
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/11/16 11:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cheapest of cheap shots in heros yj game today. Teach a different game on LI



By a YJ player or Hero's player? I see that Hero's won.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/11/16 11:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cheapest of cheap shots in heros yj game today. Teach a different game on LI


What happened
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 12:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Cheapest of cheap shots in heros yj game today. Teach a different game on LI


What happened



LI girls played like Hofstra in the summer that's what. NO CLASS.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 01:34 AM
Which game? YJ Mitchell got 5 yellows against Heros white. Tie 7-7
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 01:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass tournament is an IWLCA tournament. Just about every college has a coach here. Idiots.


That no team of any consequence attends - again any top PAL team would win this tourney easily
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 02:08 AM
Most talented girl but wastes it with dirty antics. Sad to see her parents or coach won't step in. Not naming anyone but on Carro. Embarrassed for the parents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 02:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass tournament is an IWLCA tournament. Just about every college has a coach here. Idiots.


That no team of any consequence attends - again any top PAL team would win this tourney easily


You sure? What team does your daughter play for?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 02:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass tournament is an IWLCA tournament. Just about every college has a coach here. Idiots.


That no team of any consequence attends - again any top PAL team would win this tourney easily


I think you will find the Mass Elite 2019 Red team to be a team of consequence. Now don't rush to look at the scores from this tournament and say they r not. The high school playoffs r still going on in Mass and a few very top end players are not there this weekend. You will get your chance to judge for yourself this summer. But this team can compete with the best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 02:43 AM
No one cares about mass tourney. Irrelevant.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 03:20 AM
Heros kills top guns, top guns beats yj, yj beat heros. All makes sense. Love this game!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 03:37 AM
Too programs in order:..

Mnd
Heros
Yj
Sky walkers
Integrity
Tlc
Topguns
Capital

Just thoughts
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 05:41 AM
Wrong YJ will move on to playoffs big win vs Heros
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 09:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too programs in order:..

Mnd
Heros
Yj
Sky walkers
Integrity
Tlc
Topguns
Capital

Just thoughts


Heros 2nd? Yeah, right. Good one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 11:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too programs in order:..

Mnd
Heros
Yj
Sky walkers
Integrity
Tlc
Topguns
Capital

Just thoughts


Where's Elevate?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too programs in order:..

Mnd
Heros
Yj
Sky walkers
Integrity
Tlc
Topguns
Capital

Just thoughts


Where's Elevate?


TG? They lose by double digits to the first five teams on that list
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 09:42 PM
Where's Liberty
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/12/16 11:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where's Liberty

On the list as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 12:05 AM
some facts by the numbers
long Island teams only
Y.J. sent a whopping 14 teams to tourney this weekend with a total 42% winning record
Liberty sent the least at 7 teams with a 55% winning record
T.G. sent 9 teams with a high of 66% winning record
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 12:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
some facts by the numbers
long Island teams only
Y.J. sent a whopping 14 teams to tourney this weekend with a total 42% winning record
Liberty sent the least at 7 teams with a 55% winning record
T.G. sent 9 teams with a high of 66% winning record


Lets narrow it down to wins in A bracket games against real competition and I think you will see the order reversed.

What significant wins did TG or Liberty have?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 01:00 AM
You are a loser for doing that kind of research. Get a life!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 01:27 AM
2019 black over 2019 blue. significant ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 01:32 AM
19 black beat the mighty yellow jackets
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 01:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
some facts by the numbers
long Island teams only
Y.J. sent a whopping 14 teams to tourney this weekend with a total 42% winning record
Liberty sent the least at 7 teams with a 55% winning record
T.G. sent 9 teams with a high of 66% winning record


Lets narrow it down to wins in A bracket games against real competition and I think you will see the order reversed.

I'm pretty sure TG black beat YJ Carro yesterday
What significant wins did TG or Liberty have?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 02:22 AM
How did TG black do in the playoffs?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 02:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too programs in order:..

Mnd
Heros
Yj
Sky walkers
Integrity
Tlc
Topguns
Liberty
Capital

Just thoughts


Where's Elevate?


Elevate was in MA. They didn't attend Summer Genesis with all of the teams listed above. Not sure why the wouldn't go to this tournament?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 02:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too programs in order:..

Mnd
Heros
Yj
Sky walkers
Integrity
Tlc
Topguns
Capital

Just thoughts


Where's Elevate?


TG? They lose by double digits to the first five teams on that list


Liberty beat Integrity and tied TLC I believe.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You are a loser for doing that kind of research. Get a life!
you're on a web site about girls lacrosse calling me a loser, I guess you're just as big a loser. What the matter do the numbers show that your "elite" teams are not so elite? Your clubs moniker isn't Only our A team is elite. No one " Fears the Bee " anymore
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 09:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too programs in order:..

Mnd
Heros
Yj
Sky walkers
Integrity
Tlc
Topguns
Capital

Just thoughts


Where's Elevate?


TG? They lose by double digits to the first five teams on that list


Liberty beat Integrity and tied TLC I believe.


Both Liberty 2019 teams were 1-3 in pool play this past weekend. Neither of them played Integrity, let alone beat them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 12:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too programs in order:..

Mnd
Heros
Yj
Sky walkers
Integrity
Tlc
Topguns
Liberty
Capital

Just thoughts


Where's Elevate?


Elevate was in MA. They didn't attend Summer Genesis with all of the teams listed above. Not sure why the wouldn't go to this tournament?


Same reason Elevate didn't got to Mid-Atlantic last weekend and play against real teams. As a parent of a 2019 I'd be pretty upset playing back to back weeks at tournaments with ZERO college coaches at them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 12:56 PM
Liberty 2018 3 wins 1 loss
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Liberty 2018 3 wins 1 loss


Put that in the 2018 forum. This is 2019. See, a "9" after the "1" makes it NINETEEN. An "8" after the "1" makes it EIGHTEEN. Straight?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 01:51 PM
I guess you got up on the wrong side of the bed
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/13/16 06:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Too programs in order:..

Mnd
Heros
Yj
Sky walkers
Integrity
Tlc
Topguns
Liberty
Capital

Just thoughts


Where's Elevate?


Elevate was in MA. They didn't attend Summer Genesis with all of the teams listed above. Not sure why the wouldn't go to this tournament?


Same reason Elevate didn't got to Mid-Atlantic last weekend and play against real teams. As a parent of a 2019 I'd be pretty upset playing back to back weeks at tournaments with ZERO college coaches at them.


That's an uninformed statement ... There were TONS of coaches at UMASS. NU, ND, UNC, Florida, Duke, Harvard, Dartmouth, UMASS, Richmond, BC, BU, Denver, Ohio State, Columbia, Yale ... and many many more D1 schools. Not to mention almost every NESCAC and many other great academic D3s. So what are u talking about?

As far as Elevate is concerned, as predicted they did not win all their games there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/14/16 05:58 PM
anybody know anything about fl$ Nassau?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/15/16 12:31 PM
How did YJ 19s do at Genesis?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/15/16 01:45 PM
Does anyone know where M&D, skywalkers, and tlc are going to be this weekend
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/15/16 04:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know where M&D, skywalkers, and tlc are going to be this weekend


With Elevate.

Psyche...

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/16/16 11:51 AM
National Draw this weekend seems to have a bit better coach lineup compared to previous years, despite the IWLCA tournament down in Richmond. Must be a function of 2019s being recruited now and the fact that there are several top tier 2019 teams there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/16/16 12:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
National Draw this weekend seems to have a bit better coach lineup compared to previous years, despite the IWLCA tournament down in Richmond. Must be a function of 2019s being recruited now and the fact that there are several top tier 2019 teams there.


Which top teams would that be?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/16/16 12:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
National Draw this weekend seems to have a bit better coach lineup compared to previous years, despite the IWLCA tournament down in Richmond. Must be a function of 2019s being recruited now and the fact that there are several top tier 2019 teams there.


Which top teams would that be?


Heros, YJ, Mass Elite
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/17/16 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
National Draw this weekend seems to have a bit better coach lineup compared to previous years, despite the IWLCA tournament down in Richmond. Must be a function of 2019s being recruited now and the fact that there are several top tier 2019 teams there.


Which top teams would that be?


Heros, YJ, Mass Elite


And let's not forget Top Guns.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/19/16 03:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
National Draw this weekend seems to have a bit better coach lineup compared to previous years, despite the IWLCA tournament down in Richmond. Must be a function of 2019s being recruited now and the fact that there are several top tier 2019 teams there.


Which top teams would that be?


Heros, YJ, Mass Elite


And let's not forget Top Guns.


And actually Salt City ... hadn't seen them play before but they r outstanding. From syracuse area. Two Northwestern commits and the 8th grader from Florida committed to Syracuse. She is special. I was skeptical, but got to see her play today and she is the real deal.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/19/16 03:41 AM
Thanks mom
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/19/16 06:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
National Draw this weekend seems to have a bit better coach lineup compared to previous years, despite the IWLCA tournament down in Richmond. Must be a function of 2019s being recruited now and the fact that there are several top tier 2019 teams there.


Which top teams would that be?


Heros, YJ, Mass Elite



And let's not forget Top Guns.


And actually Salt City ... hadn't seen them play before but they r outstanding. From syracuse area. Two Northwestern commits and the 8th grader from Florida committed to Syracuse. She is special. I was skeptical, but got to see her play today and she is the real deal.

Top guns parent here and yes she is ridiculously good. I actually looked her up in the program and couldn't believe she's a 2020. Great skill
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/19/16 08:12 PM
Saw her play this weekend as well. She has great skill, but also a great lax IQ. She knows the game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/19/16 11:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
National Draw this weekend seems to have a bit better coach lineup compared to previous years, despite the IWLCA tournament down in Richmond. Must be a function of 2019s being recruited now and the fact that there are several top tier 2019 teams there.


Which top teams would that be?


Heros, YJ, Mass Elite



And let's not forget Top Guns.


And actually Salt City ... hadn't seen them play before but they r outstanding. From syracuse area. Two Northwestern commits and the 8th grader from Florida committed to Syracuse. She is special. I was skeptical, but got to see her play today and she is the real deal.

Top guns parent here and yes she is ridiculously good. I actually looked her up in the program and couldn't believe she's a 2020. Great skill


LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/20/16 12:19 PM
Who won the ND this weekend?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/20/16 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who won the ND this weekend?


YJ Carro. Where you expecting anyone else.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/20/16 01:30 PM
"Were you expecting anyone else" - Who writes this? Definitely a drama seeker from another club trying to stir sh** up
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/20/16 01:44 PM
You act like it was a breeze... They squeezed by Heros. Barely.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/20/16 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You act like it was a breeze... They squeezed by Heros. Barely.



wow that's lame. taking a moral victory from the fact you played them close??

man up. yah lost
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/20/16 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You act like it was a breeze... They squeezed by Heros. Barely.



wow that's lame. taking a moral victory from the fact you played them close??

man up. yah lost


Heros is not that good anymore.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/20/16 05:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You act like it was a breeze... They squeezed by Heros. Barely.



wow that's lame. taking a moral victory from the fact you played them close??

man up. yah lost


Heros is not that good anymore.


who is then? Top 6 2019 teams r??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/20/16 06:05 PM
Skywalkers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/21/16 12:59 AM
Heros YJ skywalkers m&d ...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/21/16 01:01 AM
Omg that's pathetic. Listen to yourself! Moral victory man up you lost??? I'm sorry that I don't go home and have my daughters record on the fridge and keep tallies of championships. I want her to love the game and won't lost sleep at night if she knows her team played well. WOW I'm glad you weren't my dad growing up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/21/16 01:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heros YJ skywalkers m&d ...


M&D
Skywalkers
YJ
Heros
Mass Elite
Top Guns
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/21/16 01:46 AM
Mass Elite lost to Salt city I think this weekend. That is why we played Salt City in Championship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/21/16 02:19 AM
I'd put Salt city #5 then
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/21/16 02:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass Elite lost to Salt city I think this weekend. That is why we played Salt City in Championship.


Yes in OT w/out the #1/1A player on the team ... ND commit. Not an excuse, just a fact. She makes a big difference, however. I'm sure you would agree that any best player on most teams does. With her, likely beat Salt City and get to finals. Not saying ME wins against YJ. The one time ME played YJ (Lax for the cure) it was a one goal game won in the last second by YJ. So I would say ME 2019s, when all present, r competitive w best teams in country and deserve to be mentioned in that tier.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/21/16 09:56 AM
Add Integrity Green to the list, remove Top Guns.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/21/16 12:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Add Integrity Green to the list, remove Top Guns.

Nice try pal
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/21/16 10:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Add Integrity Green to the list, remove Top Guns.

Nice try pal


I've seen them play too and they are a very good TEAM. TEAM-first mentality, unlike a lot of LI teams. They're not quite in the same air as M&D Black, but they're surely in that second tier with Stars, Capital Blue, Hero's, etc. They're legit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/22/16 12:04 AM
how is it that we keep putting M&D Black on a this untouchable level? We quickly forget the LOST to Hero's 2 weeks ago...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/22/16 01:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how is it that we keep putting M&D Black on a this untouchable level? We quickly forget the LOST to Hero's 2 weeks ago...



Because, they're consistently the best. They probably have fewer losses against the top teams than any other club. End. Of. Story.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/22/16 03:31 AM
M&D lost to skywalkers at Genesis also
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/22/16 03:34 AM
ME has never beat a top team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/22/16 09:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
ME has never beat a top team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/22/16 09:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how is it that we keep putting M&D Black on a this untouchable level? We quickly forget the LOST to Hero's 2 weeks ago...



Because, they're consistently the best. They probably have fewer losses against the top teams than any other club. End. Of. Story.


Heros parents at every age group struggle with this. They are adorable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/22/16 10:18 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
ME has never beat a top team


Which ones have the 2019s played?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/22/16 02:17 PM
Capital
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/22/16 04:14 PM
M&D has been playing without 4 of their top players this summer. Tribute to their depth that they have done as well as they have.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/22/16 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Capital


No
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/22/16 05:40 PM
Is there somewhere that there's an updated of all girls 2019 commits. Just wondering thx
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/23/16 11:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how is it that we keep putting M&D Black on a this untouchable level? We quickly forget the LOST to Hero's 2 weeks ago...



Because, they're consistently the best. They probably have fewer losses against the top teams than any other club. End. Of. Story.


Heros parents at every age group struggle with this. They are adorable.


The heros parents at 2019 are at least mellower as a group, compared to the 2021's. The parents and coaches are more entertaining to watch then the action on the field.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/24/16 07:44 PM
Anyone have views on the UA tournament? How about the "uncommitted" game. Is the main tournament good? Is the uncommitted game worth the time and money?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/25/16 02:34 AM
No no and no. Just an opinion. If you want to be seen, play well in showcase formats. Everything else is $$$ grabs. I paid for it all last year and got noticed during a tourney game. I'm sure everyone has different perspectives but that was ours.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/25/16 06:41 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No no and no. Just an opinion. If you want to be seen, play well in showcase formats. Everything else is $$$ grabs. I paid for it all last year and got noticed during a tourney game. I'm sure everyone has different perspectives but that was ours.


How is UA a money grab if you make it onto a team? There is no additional fee right? Just the tryout fee? I mean i get it's a money thing for the tryouts, but the tournament itself seems like it would be a great thing?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/26/16 02:08 PM
Congrats to the Carro team who took the Lax for the Cure championship over M&D black! Let's also note that the "all and mighty" M&D barely squeeked by YJ Mitchell after some horrendous officiating...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/26/16 02:41 PM
The YJ-Mitchell vs. M&D Black game that is being referred to may very well be the worst officiated girls lacrosse game I have ever seen.

Back-to-back charges....called by the same official....neither of which were charges) including one that would have been the winning goal in an overtime playoff game was simply an embarrassment for the two-person officiating crew and the tourney as a whole.

M&D Black 2019 lost "before" they entered the championship. If that organization has a difficult time admitting that - they're in denial.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/27/16 02:39 PM
Stop your complaining, you lost, live with it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/27/16 03:20 PM
Bad officiating is part of playing in these summer tournaments. You have to be good enough to overcome it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/29/16 12:29 PM
Right now YJ Carro is the best 2019 tournament results show it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/29/16 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right now YJ Carro is the best 2019 tournament results show it.


What's really fun to watch with their good run this year is thinking back to last year. The parents were already scouting out a spot for him in the Pine Barrens. Right around the G8 tournament - I really thought he was going to "disappear" with the way people were talking. Well, good job coach. Yes, I am a Maryland parent and I love watching the way YJ Carro plays.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/29/16 07:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Right now YJ Carro is the best 2019 tournament results show it.


What's really fun to watch with their good run this year is thinking back to last year. The parents were already scouting out a spot for him in the Pine Barrens. Right around the G8 tournament - I really thought he was going to "disappear" with the way people were talking. Well, good job coach. Yes, I am a Maryland parent and I love watching the way YJ Carro plays.

Likely a Maryland parent, who knows about the Pine Barrens to dump a body...lol .... not. Just a YJ poser.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/30/16 01:47 AM
Carro has handed it to heros this year. No doubt. Heros parent
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/30/16 12:27 PM
Top Guns beat him
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/30/16 12:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Carro has handed it to heros this year. No doubt. Heros parent


How can a Heros parent know about the Pine Barrens - YJ kisser or maybe even Carro himself.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/30/16 01:06 PM
2019 YJ committed to Hofstra - a sign of the apocalypse??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/30/16 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 YJ committed to Hofstra - a sign of the apocalypse??


She will be shunned
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/30/16 03:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 YJ committed to Hofstra - a sign of the apocalypse??


She will be shunned


LOVE IT! I love it because the player and family made the decision THEY wanted and not what The Queen Bee wanted.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/30/16 03:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 YJ committed to Hofstra - a sign of the apocalypse??


She will be shunned


They have already probably burnt her at the stake.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/30/16 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 YJ committed to Hofstra - a sign of the apocalypse??


She will be shunned


They have already probably burnt her at the stake.


Current recruits have not been working out too well, need to try a new source of players to change the course.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/30/16 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 YJ committed to Hofstra - a sign of the apocalypse??


Wow, I guess we were not the only one's thinking about Hofstra.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/30/16 08:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
2019 YJ committed to Hofstra - a sign of the apocalypse??


Wow, I guess we were not the only one's thinking about Hofstra.



Here too. Great school. Potential for a very good team, young coach (in only her 4th year...jeez), fairly young team, good incoming class of 2016's and good ones on the horizon. I actually think good things are in store at Hempstead. Rumors are going around about the two new assistants...one is pretty well known and the other is very well known. I will not post what I heard...I'll wait for SS to make the announcement officially. But, if who I heard is coming to good ol' HU, things are definitely looking up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 06/30/16 11:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Carro has handed it to heros this year. No doubt. Heros parent


How can a Heros parent know about the Pine Barrens - YJ kisser or maybe even Carro himself.


Hey ignoramus look up the Pine Barrens and you will see that the PB's that most folks know about are in Southern Jersey, closer to MD than Suffolk County (there was even a Soprano episode called Pine Barrens) Carro has a good team and he is a good travel coach; as well as a good high school coach. Plus, he's not cray cray like some of the other QB coaches.
Signed
Ms C...oops I mean a disinterested third party
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/02/16 03:01 AM
Result from UA today:

New England 2019/20 12-6 over LI

Maybe now the 2019 Mass Elite girls that are a big part of this team will start getting respect?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/02/16 03:51 AM
Go beat m&d,Heros, skywalkers or YJ and then you'll get some respect...until then keep grasping for respect...you mass elite guys are really desperate
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/02/16 10:21 AM
See what they do at G8
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/02/16 03:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Go beat m&d,Heros, skywalkers or YJ and then you'll get some respect...until then keep grasping for respect...you mass elite guys are really desperate


Nope. Just having fun watching all u morons think the lacrosse universe revolves around you and your daughters. The Mass Elite team won't shorten it's bench at G8 so might not "win". But ask any major college coach that has seen the 2019 ME team play, and they will tell you 1-12 best team in the country. go ahead dare to ask. You might not like the answer, but at least you will know the truth.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/02/16 03:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Result from UA today:

New England 2019/20 12-6 over LI

Maybe now the 2019 Mass Elite girls that are a big part of this team will start getting respect?


True? What happened?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/02/16 06:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Result from UA today:

New England 2019/20 12-6 over LI

Maybe now the 2019 Mass Elite girls that are a big part of this team will start getting respect?


True? What happened?



Why is that when a LI team loses someone always wants to know..."What happened?" Why does something have to had happened? You know what happened? They lost. They got beat. Period. Maybe next time they will win, but yesterday they lost.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/03/16 12:32 AM
It looks like the Washington DC Command team and the Baltimore Command team are killing it at the UA All-American tournament. Both teams are mostly made up of Maryland players. They are a collective 8-0, while the collective LI/NJ/Upstate are a combined 4-8.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/03/16 03:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks like the Washington DC Command team and the Baltimore Command team are killing it at the UA All-American tournament. Both teams are mostly made up of Maryland players. They are a collective 8-0, while the collective LI/NJ/Upstate are a combined 4-8.


DC plays LI again tomorrow. Should be a good game. first one was 8-7.

Baltimore top seed by virtue of lowest goals against and they get bye.

Top scoring team, New England, w 66 goals in 4 games gets NJ for second time in tourney. Always tough to beat a team twice. See if NE is really any good.

Philly vs. West. Great showing by West so far.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/03/16 10:45 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks like the Washington DC Command team and the Baltimore Command team are killing it at the UA All-American tournament. Both teams are mostly made up of Maryland players. They are a collective 8-0, while the collective LI/NJ/Upstate are a combined 4-8.


What's your point . North senior girls beat south senior girls , game never really in doubt , so what .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/03/16 12:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks like the Washington DC Command team and the Baltimore Command team are killing it at the UA All-American tournament. Both teams are mostly made up of Maryland players. They are a collective 8-0, while the collective LI/NJ/Upstate are a combined 4-8.


What's your point . North senior girls beat south senior girls , game never really in doubt , so what .
several of the best NJ girls don't play as their HS coaches don't let them as tryouts are in the midst of the state tournament game. For example, there are no Ridgewood or Summit girls on the NJ UA high school team. Not an excuse just the facts. And there were two Summit and one Ridgewood girls in the UA All-American game last night, and none of them played in the underclass games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/03/16 03:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It looks like the Washington DC Command team and the Baltimore Command team are killing it at the UA All-American tournament. Both teams are mostly made up of Maryland players. They are a collective 8-0, while the collective LI/NJ/Upstate are a combined 4-8.


What's your point . North senior girls beat south senior girls , game never really in doubt , so what .


Many of the LI girls do not try out because they know the evaluation is bias
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/03/16 03:40 PM
Preach on brother (or sister).

Doesn't surprise me that the Long Island entry isn't killing it. Some of the best players from the tryouts weren't selected and others didn't show up at all.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/03/16 06:30 PM
Another LI-er excuse. Guess what...it's the same situation everywhere. In MD, it's the same thing...weaker favorites are picked over better players, some of the better players don't even try out because they have something else to do or they know they won't get picked because some other players coach is the evaluator, etc. So to say that the LI girls aren't doing well because some didn't show up or whatever is weak. My observation is that the MD girls who were picked are better than the LI girls who were picked.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/03/16 09:42 PM
Interesting how CR doesn't schedule Carro and Hero's in G8...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/03/16 10:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another LI-er excuse. Guess what...it's the same situation everywhere. In MD, it's the same thing...weaker favorites are picked over better players, some of the better players don't even try out because they have something else to do or they know they won't get picked because some other players coach is the evaluator, etc. So to say that the LI girls aren't doing well because some didn't show up or whatever is weak. My observation is that the MD girls who were picked are better than the LI girls who were picked.


And my observation in the Command Division was that the New England girls were better than all of them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/04/16 12:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another LI-er excuse. Guess what...it's the same situation everywhere. In MD, it's the same thing...weaker favorites are picked over better players, some of the better players don't even try out because they have something else to do or they know they won't get picked because some other players coach is the evaluator, etc. So to say that the LI girls aren't doing well because some didn't show up or whatever is weak. My observation is that the MD girls who were picked are better than the LI girls who were picked.


And my observation in the Command Division was that the New England girls were better than all of them.



And your observation would be correct...this time. Congrats to them for a great weekend. But as we all know, next time could be 180 degrees different,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/04/16 01:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Another LI-er excuse. Guess what...it's the same situation everywhere. In MD, it's the same thing...weaker favorites are picked over better players, some of the better players don't even try out because they have something else to do or they know they won't get picked because some other players coach is the evaluator, etc. So to say that the LI girls aren't doing well because some didn't show up or whatever is weak. My observation is that the MD girls who were picked are better than the LI girls who were picked.


And my observation in the Command Division was that the New England girls were better than all of them.



And your observation would be correct...this time. Congrats to them for a great weekend. But as we all know, next time could be 180 degrees different,


Agreed. That came off too strong. I am proud of our girls though. An unbelievable game w LI today. Some tough calls/situations in both directions. Ultimately a toss-up game that happened to go New England's way. Nice tournament by all the girls, safe travels and have a happy 4th. See you on the tournament circuit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/04/16 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting how CR doesn't schedule Carro and Hero's in G8...


They played each other four times this summer...all good games...isn't the worst thing playing other teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/04/16 06:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Preach on brother (or sister).

Doesn't surprise me that the Long Island entry isn't killing it. Some of the best players from the tryouts weren't selected and others didn't show up at all.



Sorry but it's the same nonsense every year with parents of kids who did not make a team complaining about how their little superstar did not make it so it must be political . The thing is the evaluators and their affiliations have changed multiple times over the years yet it's always the same whining .Get over it , your kid maybe had a bad tryout , it happens .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/04/16 06:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Preach on brother (or sister).

Doesn't surprise me that the Long Island entry isn't killing it. Some of the best players from the tryouts weren't selected and others didn't show up at all.



Sorry but it's the same nonsense every year with parents of kids who did not make a team complaining about how their little superstar did not make it so it must be political . The thing is the evaluators and their affiliations have changed multiple times over the years yet it's always the same whining .Get over it , your kid maybe had a bad tryout , it happens .


Yes strange that they couldn't win with commits to UVA (2), BC (2) Maryland, Duke, USC, OSU and Stony B. I would say they had a lot of good players on the team. The issue just might be that other teams have good players too? Imagine.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/04/16 10:59 PM
Great stick check call on NEs part...Team was very good...but take it easy with all the posts cutting on other teams....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/04/16 11:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Preach on brother (or sister).

Doesn't surprise me that the Long Island entry isn't killing it. Some of the best players from the tryouts weren't selected and others didn't show up at all.



Sorry but it's the same nonsense every year with parents of kids who did not make a team complaining about how their little superstar did not make it so it must be political . The thing is the evaluators and their affiliations have changed multiple times over the years yet it's always the same whining .Get over it , your kid maybe had a bad tryout , it happens .


Stop....it is political! You know it as well as everybody else does.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/05/16 12:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Preach on brother (or sister).

Doesn't surprise me that the Long Island entry isn't killing it. Some of the best players from the tryouts weren't selected and others didn't show up at all.



Sorry but it's the same nonsense every year with parents of kids who did not make a team complaining about how their little superstar did not make it so it must be political . The thing is the evaluators and their affiliations have changed multiple times over the years yet it's always the same whining .Get over it , your kid maybe had a bad tryout , it happens .


Stop....it is political! You know it as well as everybody else does.



It is political. When you see 1st team all-county (or similar) players getting passed over while players that don't even start for their JV team make it, what other conclusion could a reasonable person arrive at? By the way, my daughter was selected years ago, but we saw other deserving players not make it, while daddy-coach-evaluatpr's kid, who didn't even start on her JV team. made it. That was my daughter's only year to try out. We were all disenfranchised by the whole process. It's a b***s**t, fake, money-grab. Means nothing if you make it, means nothing if you don't.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/05/16 12:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Preach on brother (or sister).

Doesn't surprise me that the Long Island entry isn't killing it. Some of the best players from the tryouts weren't selected and others didn't show up at all.



Sorry but it's the same nonsense every year with parents of kids who did not make a team complaining about how their little superstar did not make it so it must be political . The thing is the evaluators and their affiliations have changed multiple times over the years yet it's always the same whining .Get over it , your kid maybe had a bad tryout , it happens .


Stop....it is political! You know it as well as everybody else does.



It is political. When you see 1st team all-county (or similar) players getting passed over while players that don't even start for their JV team make it, what other conclusion could a reasonable person arrive at? By the way, my daughter was selected years ago, but we saw other deserving players not make it, while daddy-coach-evaluatpr's kid, who didn't even start on her JV team. made it. That was my daughter's only year to try out. We were all disenfranchised by the whole process. It's a b***s**t, fake, money-grab. Means nothing if you make it, means nothing if you don't.


Angry much . Your argument is pathetically moronic . Talk about completely political , all-county is only based on your teams final placement in standings and who your coach picks which is many times based on what parent kisses the coaxes [lacrosse] the most . If you do not think a JV kid from a top program may have a better tryout than an all county kid from a bad program you are just ignorant . Every year some moron like you tries to come on here and say it's all based on politics blah blah but never give us the programs that benefitted from the politics so much . The fact that you state you were not at the tryouts yet you know politics were involved tells me all you need to know.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/05/16 02:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great stick check call on NEs part...Team was very good...but take it easy with all the posts cutting on other teams....


Nobody is cutting on other teams (except maybe some Maryland guys before they lost). It was a great stick check. And lets not forget the game was already won once at the end of regulation before the refs decided to after-the-fact inform the 8-meter shooter the clock had been on zero. It was a great game all-around by both teams. Had some strange/crazy situations go for and against both teams. Based on the finals score (16-7 over Philly), it looks like it was the game that decided the winner. Congrats to LI and to all the other girls who made teams. These people on here saying it's a money grab (no fee for tournament just for try-out) are wrong. It is a highly competitive tournament, with many great players from all over the country. The point about the commits is just that. People are trying to say that that the reason LI didn't win is the try-out process is flawed. That's nonsense. It is ok to say that there sometimes are other good teams (as you did) and leave it at that. There doesn't always have to be an excuse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/05/16 09:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interesting how CR doesn't schedule Carro and Hero's in G8...


Instead, Hero's drives up to Jersey to play Sky Walkers and MD United. They also get to play Mass Elite for the first time. The G8 does not look the same as it did last year. It's more like the OK16. Next year will it be the *32?

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 12:06 AM
Can we pause the UA convo since this is the 19 board? Thanks. As for G8, it is a tournament designed specifically for exposure to coaches.... why wouldn't they want to have the best teams play each other? The 5 teams playing each other SHOULD be:
M&D vs Capital vs YJ vs M&D vs Skywalkers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 12:36 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great stick check call on NEs part...Team was very good...but take it easy with all the posts cutting on other teams....


Nobody is cutting on other teams (except maybe some Maryland guys before they lost). It was a great stick check. And lets not forget the game was already won once at the end of regulation before the refs decided to after-the-fact inform the 8-meter shooter the clock had been on zero. It was a great game all-around by both teams. Had some strange/crazy situations go for and against both teams. Based on the finals score (16-7 over Philly), it looks like it was the game that decided the winner. Congrats to LI and to all the other girls who made teams. These people on here saying it's a money grab (no fee for tournament just for try-out) are wrong. It is a highly competitive tournament, with many great players from all over the country. The point about the commits is just that. People are trying to say that that the reason LI didn't win is the try-out process is flawed. That's nonsense. It is ok to say that there sometimes are other good teams (as you did) and leave it at that. There doesn't always have to be an excuse.


Stick check is BS, more than half the sticks on the summer circuit are illegal, but there is no time to check every team before every game, that's a bush league move by someone desperate to win a game
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 12:41 AM
Funny...It's called the Great 8 but Md United is invited. Kind of discredits the whole "Great" part of the name. This should be their last year...they are imploding.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 01:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great stick check call on NEs part...Team was very good...but take it easy with all the posts cutting on other teams....


Nobody is cutting on other teams (except maybe some Maryland guys before they lost). It was a great stick check. And lets not forget the game was already won once at the end of regulation before the refs decided to after-the-fact inform the 8-meter shooter the clock had been on zero. It was a great game all-around by both teams. Had some strange/crazy situations go for and against both teams. Based on the finals score (16-7 over Philly), it looks like it was the game that decided the winner. Congrats to LI and to all the other girls who made teams. These people on here saying it's a money grab (no fee for tournament just for try-out) are wrong. It is a highly competitive tournament, with many great players from all over the country. The point about the commits is just that. People are trying to say that that the reason LI didn't win is the try-out process is flawed. That's nonsense. It is ok to say that there sometimes are other good teams (as you did) and leave it at that. There doesn't always have to be an excuse.


Stick check is BS, more than half the sticks on the summer circuit are illegal, but there is no time to check every team before every game, that's a bush league move by someone desperate to win a game


Nope not true. What's bush league is girl's huddling around a goal scorer while she frantically tries to tighten what she knows is an illegal stick which she had already scored several goals with. Total bush league, but taught well on LI. That is actually the definition of bush league and really pathetic actually.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 01:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can we pause the UA convo since this is the 19 board? Thanks. As for G8, it is a tournament designed specifically for exposure to coaches.... why wouldn't they want to have the best teams play each other? The 5 teams playing each other SHOULD be:
M&D vs Capital vs YJ vs M&D vs Skywalkers


Two things moron. 1) The UA tournament was a 2019 tournament (plus a few 2020's) so get a clue. 2) Typical Maryland/LI BS. Really? And M&D is so good that you list them twice?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 01:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great stick check call on NEs part...Team was very good...but take it easy with all the posts cutting on other teams....


Nobody is cutting on other teams (except maybe some Maryland guys before they lost). It was a great stick check. And lets not forget the game was already won once at the end of regulation before the refs decided to after-the-fact inform the 8-meter shooter the clock had been on zero. It was a great game all-around by both teams. Had some strange/crazy situations go for and against both teams. Based on the finals score (16-7 over Philly), it looks like it was the game that decided the winner. Congrats to LI and to all the other girls who made teams. These people on here saying it's a money grab (no fee for tournament just for try-out) are wrong. It is a highly competitive tournament, with many great players from all over the country. The point about the commits is just that. People are trying to say that that the reason LI didn't win is the try-out process is flawed. That's nonsense. It is ok to say that there sometimes are other good teams (as you did) and leave it at that. There doesn't always have to be an excuse.


Stick check is BS, more than half the sticks on the summer circuit are illegal, but there is no time to check every team before every game, that's a bush league move by someone desperate to win a game


Nope not true. What's bush league is girl's huddling around a goal scorer while she frantically tries to tighten what she knows is an illegal stick which she had already scored several goals with. Total bush league, but taught well on LI. That is actually the definition of bush league and really pathetic actually.



its very easy to tighten a stick if you know its illegal, most girls can do it within 3 seconds of shooting, if it was that important they should check them all before the game starts, summer sticks are a joke
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 01:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Great stick check call on NEs part...Team was very good...but take it easy with all the posts cutting on other teams....


Nobody is cutting on other teams (except maybe some Maryland guys before they lost). It was a great stick check. And lets not forget the game was already won once at the end of regulation before the refs decided to after-the-fact inform the 8-meter shooter the clock had been on zero. It was a great game all-around by both teams. Had some strange/crazy situations go for and against both teams. Based on the finals score (16-7 over Philly), it looks like it was the game that decided the winner. Congrats to LI and to all the other girls who made teams. These people on here saying it's a money grab (no fee for tournament just for try-out) are wrong. It is a highly competitive tournament, with many great players from all over the country. The point about the commits is just that. People are trying to say that that the reason LI didn't win is the try-out process is flawed. That's nonsense. It is ok to say that there sometimes are other good teams (as you did) and leave it at that. There doesn't always have to be an excuse.


Stick check is BS, more than half the sticks on the summer circuit are illegal, but there is no time to check every team before every game, that's a bush league move by someone desperate to win a game


Nope not true. What's bush league is girl's huddling around a goal scorer while she frantically tries to tighten what she knows is an illegal stick which she had already scored several goals with. Total bush league, but taught well on LI. That is actually the definition of bush league and really pathetic actually.



its very easy to tighten a stick if you know its illegal, most girls can do it within 3 seconds of shooting, if it was that important they should check them all before the game starts, summer sticks are a joke


Then why did she have so much trouble with it? She was trying mighty hard. Maybe your girl's "summer sticks" are a joke, but that is not true off the island my cheating friend. Also please explain why the "spring sticks" of LI girls are also necessary to tighten in the huddle during every Mt Sinai game?? Ah the YJ influence. You ain't tryin' if you ain't cheatin'. As far as checking before the game ... kind of goes against what you just tried to say, no? If it takes three seconds to tighten it, surely it takes 3 seconds on the sidelines after a stick check to loosen it, duh. I've got an idea, how about your girls play by the rules? What's so hard about that? And btw, you lost not once, but twice to that team. Here's what you say ... "Great job by a great bunch of girls that I didn't realize were so good. It surprised me, because I only thought there were good players on LI and in Maryland. Great to see other areas developing strong talent. It will be fun to watch our girls compete with them going forward." - Good night
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 03:29 AM
The UA tournament is a whole lot more than a 2019 thing. FYI. And M&D is listed twice because of both of their 2019 teams. They are both very competitive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 03:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Preach on brother (or sister).

Doesn't surprise me that the Long Island entry isn't killing it. Some of the best players from the tryouts weren't selected and others didn't show up at all.




Sorry but it's the same nonsense every year with parents of kids who did not make a team complaining about how their little superstar did not make it so it must be political . The thing is the evaluators and their affiliations have changed multiple times over the years yet it's always the same whining .Get over it , your kid maybe had a bad tryout , it happens .


Stop....it is political! You know it as well as everybody else does.



It is political. When you see 1st team all-county (or similar) players getting passed over while players that don't even start for their JV team make it, what other conclusion could a reasonable person arrive at? By the way, my daughter was selected years ago, but we saw other deserving players not make it, while daddy-coach-evaluatpr's kid, who didn't even start on her JV team. made it. That was my daughter's only year to try out. We were all disenfranchised by the whole process. It's a b***s**t, fake, money-grab. Means nothing if you make it, means nothing if you don't.


Angry much . Your argument is pathetically moronic . Talk about completely political , all-county is only based on your teams final placement in standings and who your coach picks which is many times based on what parent kisses the coaxes [lacrosse] the most . If you do not think a JV kid from a top program may have a better tryout than an all county kid from a bad program you are just ignorant . Every year some moron like you tries to come on here and say it's all based on politics blah blah but never give us the programs that benefitted from the politics so much . The fact that you state you were not at the tryouts yet you know politics were involved tells me all you need to know.


And every year people come on here trying to defend the political connections. Good for you, you kissed up to the right people, kept contacts with the right people from your college days of playing or just simply have a set and call in those favors. Bottom line is own it. LI did not produce on the girls or boys side. Can anyone guess the common denominator??? POLITICS
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 12:03 PM
I assume the selection process from other regions was politics-free?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I assume the selection process from other regions was politics-free?


You must be one of the chosen ones...defend it to the end as long as your kid benefits.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 01:31 PM

And every year people come on here trying to defend the political connections. Good for you, you kissed up to the right people, kept contacts with the right people from your college days of playing or just simply have a set and call in those favors. Bottom line is own it. LI did not produce on the girls or boys side. Can anyone guess the common denominator??? POLITICS

Every year its a new moronic conspiracy theory, past tears it was all about club and school affiliations .You have gone in another completely moronic direction of people who have kissed the right butts or have called in political favors. Get over it your kid did not get picked .Again cowards like yourself come onto this site to disparage kids but never actually have any facts. At least let us know the school or club some kid was from that had a lights out try out but got cut.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 01:45 PM
I said it on the 6th grade thread, and I'll say it here. On the girls side, for the first time I can remember, a L.I. Team didn't reach the finals in school girls because of all the parents and coaches using ther club affiliations to to advance the girls they deem worthy. For any parent to come on here and say that there is no politics involved, is the problem, and are usually the same parents you see screaming on the sideline for their kid to go to goal, and care about nothing but there kids stats. This unfortunately poisons their kid. If instead of coming on here pounding your chest about your kids club, and how your kid is more talented then every other kid, you should be encouraging your daughter to try to make the "weaker" kids stronger, no matter which, if f any club they play for. But because of you parents Long Island girls lacrosse as is slipping into mediocrity, and this age group is a major contributor. Yes the other regions got better, but not because they're better athletes, but because they play better lacrosse, not better me-crosse that we have started playing on the island. I said it before when I was a kid I was proud to play on L.I. Not for some greedy club director. What you people don't get why is if yore kid is really one of the best they need no club to get into school, and if your kid is average then the work it takes to get on a college team is the same no matter what club you play for. Congratulations this age group has started the slide into being the lacrosse footnote
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 02:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny...It's called the Great 8 but Md United is invited. Kind of discredits the whole "Great" part of the name. This should be their last year...they are imploding.


troll.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 02:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Funny...It's called the Great 8 but Md United is invited. Kind of discredits the whole "Great" part of the name. This should be their last year...they are imploding.


troll.
If you are going to complain about a really good tournament, then leave. STEPS and YJs don't want you anyway. Go complain somewhere else.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 03:54 PM
Why were more teams added???! Especially rebels...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I said it on the 6th grade thread, and I'll say it here. On the girls side, for the first time I can remember, a L.I. Team didn't reach the finals in school girls because of all the parents and coaches using ther club affiliations to to advance the girls they deem worthy. For any parent to come on here and say that there is no politics involved, is the problem, and are usually the same parents you see screaming on the sideline for their kid to go to goal, and care about nothing but there kids stats. This unfortunately poisons their kid. If instead of coming on here pounding your chest about your kids club, and how your kid is more talented then every other kid, you should be encouraging your daughter to try to make the "weaker" kids stronger, no matter which, if f any club they play for. But because of you parents Long Island girls lacrosse as is slipping into mediocrity, and this age group is a major contributor. Yes the other regions got better, but not because they're better athletes, but because they play better lacrosse, not better me-crosse that we have started playing on the island. I said it before when I was a kid I was proud to play on L.I. Not for some greedy club director. What you people don't get why is if yore kid is really one of the best they need no club to get into school, and if your kid is average then the work it takes to get on a college team is the same no matter what club you play for. Congratulations this age group has started the slide into being the lacrosse footnote


Your whole statement shows what a moron you truly are. First its the politics being the reason these teams did not win then its that other regions are better and play a better brand of lacrosse. Could it be that other regions have more kids playing the game than they used to and are actually getting more competitive. Again another moron claiming politics yet please tell us the group that benefitted from these politics.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 04:08 PM
what are you talking about ? LI Metro team 1 won Schoolgirls
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I said it on the 6th grade thread, and I'll say it here. On the girls side, for the first time I can remember, a L.I. Team didn't reach the finals in school girls because of all the parents and coaches using ther club affiliations to to advance the girls they deem worthy. For any parent to come on here and say that there is no politics involved, is the problem, and are usually the same parents you see screaming on the sideline for their kid to go to goal, and care about nothing but there kids stats. This unfortunately poisons their kid. If instead of coming on here pounding your chest about your kids club, and how your kid is more talented then every other kid, you should be encouraging your daughter to try to make the "weaker" kids stronger, no matter which, if f any club they play for. But because of you parents Long Island girls lacrosse as is slipping into mediocrity, and this age group is a major contributor. Yes the other regions got better, but not because they're better athletes, but because they play better lacrosse, not better me-crosse that we have started playing on the island. I said it before when I was a kid I was proud to play on L.I. Not for some greedy club director. What you people don't get why is if yore kid is really one of the best they need no club to get into school, and if your kid is average then the work it takes to get on a college team is the same no matter what club you play for. Congratulations this age group has started the slide into being the lacrosse footnote


Your whole statement shows what a moron you truly are. First its the politics being the reason these teams did not win then its that other regions are better and play a better brand of lacrosse. Could it be that other regions have more kids playing the game than they used to and are actually getting more competitive. Again another moron claiming politics yet please tell us the group that benefitted from these politics.
the 2 groups that lost at UA last week. But I he group that loses the most is the island as a whole because of nasty parents as yourself. You are the problem even more that the clubs and coaches, you're just to "moronic" to understand that
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
what are you talking about ? LI Metro team 1 won Schoolgirls
sorry I ment UA
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 05:21 PM
In regard to the other regions getting better, more kids are playing and they are def getting better every year. That NE command team was very good, with that being said and making no excuses, they had kids from 7 diff states on the team. LI is more concentrated though, like in hs lax, md,va,nj,pa,and li have better teams due to their depth. Not looking to start any fights, lot of good teams and players around the country, and its only going to get better. Enjoy the kids and the game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 05:58 PM
Lets not over-react. LI Command was a stick-check away from winning the entire tournament. There was mixed talent on the team but that is always the case. They played very well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/06/16 07:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Lets not over-react. LI Command was a stick-check away from winning the entire tournament. There was mixed talent on the team but that is always the case. They played very well.


No question. I was surprised by the leap the West made. They were much better in both age groups this year. In 5 years, look out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/07/16 12:28 PM
LI lost 3 games. They were inconsistent from game to game; too much me ball on offense (although lots of talent); mids and D didn't slide for each other and the goalies were just mediocre. No telling what would have happened if they hadn't been caught using an illegal stick. So let's not crown them champions but for the use of illegal equipment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/07/16 02:07 PM
Disagree. Had no idea how to play together since they only had one practice. Redeemed their first loss in the play-offs against a good DC team and should have redeemed their other loss to NE (eventual winner) when they were up by 2 with less than 2 minutes left. That game should have never gotten to an OT stick check, Do agree that there was mixed talent on the team and that hurts when you pretty much give everyone even playing time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/07/16 04:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Disagree. Had no idea how to play together since they only had one practice. Redeemed their first loss in the play-offs against a good DC team and should have redeemed their other loss to NE (eventual winner) when they were up by 2 with less than 2 minutes left. That game should have never gotten to an OT stick check, Do agree that there was mixed talent on the team and that hurts when you pretty much give everyone even playing time.
"Mixed talent" but let me guess, your kid was the best one, correct? The rest sucked.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/07/16 10:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Disagree. Had no idea how to play together since they only had one practice. Redeemed their first loss in the play-offs against a good DC team and should have redeemed their other loss to NE (eventual winner) when they were up by 2 with less than 2 minutes left. That game should have never gotten to an OT stick check, Do agree that there was mixed talent on the team and that hurts when you pretty much give everyone even playing time.
"Mixed talent" but let me guess, your kid was the best one, correct? The rest sucked.


How many YJs on the team? assume they knew how to play together? what teams had more than 1 practice? Why r there ALWAYS excuses? If you lose 3 of 6 games, and the eventual champion goes 7-0, beating you twice including one time that wasn't much of a game 12-6 and wasn't ever really in doubt (yes the semi-final game could have gone either way and yes the NE team came back with only a few minutes to go but don't they deserve some credit for that?) don't you just tip your cap and say at least for this tournament "the better team won"? I think you will find it's cathartic. Very likely, the next tournament a group of LI girls will win, because they are great players and great competitors. It just wasn't this week. It's ok.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/07/16 11:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why were more teams added???! Especially rebels...


remember it's always about the money and you won't have to ask so many questions - the answer is always the same
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/08/16 12:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Disagree. Had no idea how to play together since they only had one practice. Redeemed their first loss in the play-offs against a good DC team and should have redeemed their other loss to NE (eventual winner) when they were up by 2 with less than 2 minutes left. That game should have never gotten to an OT stick check, Do agree that there was mixed talent on the team and that hurts when you pretty much give everyone even playing time.


BTW, that good DC team that you split with 7-8 & 10-9, played 3 other games. Those scores: 10-9 over NJ, 13-8 over Midwest and 14-8 over Southwest. That team that LI I guess shouldn't have lost too, NE, also played those 3 teams. The scores you ask? 18-9 and then 17-5 against NJ, 17-5 over Midwest and 19-6 over Southwest. I think the NE team was pretty darn good. Going by all the scores, the aberration was actually the tight game between LI and NE the 2nd time. All the other scores, including the 12-6 drubbing earlier in the tournament, point to NE being the best team in the tournament. Watched the DC team play twice, against LI and against Midwest, didn't think they were as good as you say.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/10/16 03:30 AM
Mitchell took a beating today. 8-1... How's everyone else doing at G8?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/10/16 04:03 AM
Mass elite not so well
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/10/16 02:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mitchell took a beating today. 8-1... How's everyone else doing at G8?


Give them credit, the G8 has two top brackets in every age group, the Yellowjackets put all the B teams (Mitchell and other age groups) in top brackets. All the other clubs have their B teams in the B bracket.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/10/16 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite not so well


How is that possible? I thought after last week at UA this team was going to turn some heads as posted by their biggest fan last week.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/10/16 04:25 PM
Mass Elite a solid team. I saw them at National draw. But still a step behind the 3-5 top club teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/10/16 05:23 PM
Yes they did take a hit the first game but played very well the rest of the weekend if you wanted the update because you seem concerned enough to to post the result
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/10/16 11:32 PM
They probably had to because they have like 5 teams per age group!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/11/16 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mass elite not so well


How is that possible? I thought after last week at UA this team was going to turn some heads as posted by their biggest fan last week.


Um no. As stated, they were going to have bigger rosters and play everyone and therefore likely wouldn't beat the other top teams. Skywalkers and Heros -- 5 subs apiece and one goalie. Mass Elite, 21 players and 3 goalies. Different model. What happened to Heroes btw? lost to Maryland United and Steps Blue? Two teams Mass Elite beat. Strange. Maybe the top 3-5 teams aren't as good as you think? Anyone care to comment on the Yellow Jackets top team only going 2-1-2? With the only two wins against the Rebels and South Jersey select?

The only team that appears to have actually stood out this weekend was M&D. Kudos to them. The rest of your daughter's teams, not so much. a lot of parity. So I think I might tone down the chest pounding a little.

Hysterical listening to the Heroes parents after they lost handily to Maryland United. Goalie dad actually yelling at his daughter from the sidelines berating her for letting in a "soft" goal. Rather pathetic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/12/16 12:56 AM
Not as pathetic as posting at 1:38 am. Get a life.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/12/16 02:53 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not as pathetic as posting at 1:38 am. Get a life.


you had to take the time to write that? and you r questioning someone else's life? suppose you don't see the irony.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/12/16 03:40 AM
Too bad M&D didn't beat YJ in time to win backpacks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/12/16 10:55 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not as pathetic as posting at 1:38 am. Get a life.
You do know some people work at night, or work a swing shift at places like hospitals, firemen, police officers, or even as construction workers? Just because someone does not fit into one of your narrow minded little pigeon holes does not make them "pathetic", but your statement definitely makes you ignorant, and pathetic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/13/16 12:56 PM
Isn't BotC designed to talk about ALL ages of travel lax?...because a poster says something about girls lax, he is pathetic?....not the original poster, but cmon'..that's your best retort?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/15/16 09:19 PM
Looks like all the major teams are at the IWLCA STX Capital Cup in VA this weekend. Whoever comes out of this one with the 'ship is true champion.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/15/16 10:35 PM
It's a showcase
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/16/16 01:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like all the major teams are at the IWLCA STX Capital Cup in VA this weekend. Whoever comes out of this one with the 'ship is true champion.



No "'ship" in the Capital Cup. It's a showcase only...for recruitable aged players. LOTS of college coaches who DO NOT care who's winning or what the score is, as it should be.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/16/16 05:56 PM
Notre Dame has reall accelerated their recruting timeline even compared to last year. For the 2018s, they did not have their first commit by design (wouldn't take commits) before their big recruit weekend the first weekend of September of the girls sophomore year. As of today, they have at least 5 2019 commits that I know of and are published on club websites - 3 from STEPS (one not published yet), 1 from YJs, and one from BBL in NJ. Amazing how things have accelerated. Sure hope the proposed legislation gets passed to push back the timeline.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/17/16 10:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Notre Dame has reall accelerated their recruting timeline even compared to last year. For the 2018s, they did not have their first commit by design (wouldn't take commits) before their big recruit weekend the first weekend of September of the girls sophomore year. As of today, they have at least 5 2019 commits that I know of and are published on club websites - 3 from STEPS (one not published yet), 1 from YJs, and one from BBL in NJ. Amazing how things have accelerated. Sure hope the proposed legislation gets passed to push back the timeline.


Then there is 6 because possibly their best one is from Massachusetts
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/17/16 10:37 PM
My friend asked me and honestly I don't know as I don't have a daughter in this age group. Her daughter is on TG 2019 and is looking to switch. She said she was watching Liberty Black at Capital Cup and said they beat some good teams (NEMS, STEPS, etc.) and looked very good. How does Liberty Black 19 compare to YJ and other top teams in MD. She said Liberty 2019 is probably the 2nd best team on LI and was considering a move?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/18/16 12:26 AM
No way 2nd
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/18/16 12:38 AM
Thanks Liberty mom
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/18/16 02:34 PM
any team coached by one of the top 10 HS program coach's is probably a pretty decent travel team, no?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/18/16 03:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
any team coached by one of the top 10 HS program coach's is probably a pretty decent travel team, no?


Whether any program is right for you is a personal decision based on a lot of factors but Liberty was a great choice for us and our daughter. As far as coaching, DG is absolutely a top coach who is certainly more experienced and on top of the game than many college coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/18/16 04:31 PM
having DG as my daughters coach would be a godsend....our coach mailed it in this year...torture..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 03:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My friend asked me and honestly I don't know as I don't have a daughter in this age group. Her daughter is on TG 2019 and is looking to switch. She said she was watching Liberty Black at Capital Cup and said they beat some good teams (NEMS, STEPS, etc.) and looked very good. How does Liberty Black 19 compare to YJ and other top teams in MD. She said Liberty 2019 is probably the 2nd best team on LI and was considering a move?

Liberty was at capital cup? And what tg team? Black? Purple?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 05:45 PM
Integrity 10, YJ Gold(?) 6.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 07:10 PM
It's easy to see that CR has far reaching clout wherever she goes. 2019 blue team might have the easiest schedule ever given in this tournament. 3 teams that will not win a game. Next games opponent has lost 3 games by a combined score of 47-8. Tournament is a total joke.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 07:40 PM
Tell your friend to skip Liberty. Team is coached by 2 Mommy coaches and Danielle comes over for the games. Plus one player is her niece who seems to get preferential treatment on every team , camp and recruiting. Also, majority of the team is from manhasset. So if this is what your friend I looking for then go for it. Many better options elsewhere.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy to see that CR has far reaching clout wherever she goes. 2019 blue team might have the easiest schedule ever given in this tournament. 3 teams that will not win a game. Next games opponent has lost 3 games by a combined score of 47-8. Tournament is a total joke.


All while the MD girls are relaxing and enjoying at least part of their summer. I hear Indiana is beautiful this time of year though. But it will look good on the YJ website if they win.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy to see that CR has far reaching clout wherever she goes. 2019 blue team might have the easiest schedule ever given in this tournament. 3 teams that will not win a game. Next games opponent has lost 3 games by a combined score of 47-8. Tournament is a total joke.


All while the MD girls are relaxing and enjoying at least part of their summer. I hear Indiana is beautiful this time of year though. But it will look good on the YJ website if they win.



Plus, MD girls can't go. This is a true age based tourney (U15), not grad year based. Those MD teams would be a mess with all of the roster adjustments they'd have to make to qualify under these age rules. You'd have 2020's and 2021's playing in the U15 bracket. They don't want that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 08:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy to see that CR has far reaching clout wherever she goes. 2019 blue team might have the easiest schedule ever given in this tournament. 3 teams that will not win a game. Next games opponent has lost 3 games by a combined score of 47-8. Tournament is a total joke.


All while the MD girls are relaxing and enjoying at least part of their summer. I hear Indiana is beautiful this time of year though. But it will look good on the YJ website if they win.



Plus, MD girls can't go. This is a true age based tourney (U15), not grad year based. Those MD teams would be a mess with all of the roster adjustments they'd have to make to qualify under these age rules. You'd have 2020's and 2021's playing in the U15 bracket. They don't want that.


Of course this is the response. Even though it is not based in truth at all. Girls don't holdback like boys. And the tournament has a 9/1 cutoff date which is the same as MD schools. The simple fact is that the US Nationals are a complete waste of money. [lacrosse] poor competition with very little college coach exposure. The MD clubs don't find the need to force parents to pay the money and take the extra time out of summer to go to Indiana to play a bunch of B/C teams. We spend all spring/summer playing top competition.

Age has nothing to do with it. You keep buying what CR is selling. That's why your clubs cost over $3000 and ours cost less than $2000
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 08:26 PM
Go where you think is best for your daughter but at least have accurate information. The 2019 team is not coached by mommy parents. It's coached by MC who I believe is DG's director. Of course DG comes to the games, the team is in the middle of it's recruiting years and every college coach on the sideline knows her.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 08:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy to see that CR has far reaching clout wherever she goes. 2019 blue team might have the easiest schedule ever given in this tournament. 3 teams that will not win a game. Next games opponent has lost 3 games by a combined score of 47-8. Tournament is a total joke.


All while the MD girls are relaxing and enjoying at least part of their summer. I hear Indiana is beautiful this time of year though. But it will look good on the YJ website if they win.

On the contrary, there were many coaches there today. I wasn't really expecting any. And yes I saw cr and her coaches talking to the refs. Actually comical how far her pockets reach


Plus, MD girls can't go. This is a true age based tourney (U15), not grad year based. Those MD teams would be a mess with all of the roster adjustments they'd have to make to qualify under these age rules. You'd have 2020's and 2021's playing in the U15 bracket. They don't want that.


Of course this is the response. Even though it is not based in truth at all. Girls don't holdback like boys. And the tournament has a 9/1 cutoff date which is the same as MD schools. The simple fact is that the US Nationals are a complete waste of money. [lacrosse] poor competition with very little college coach exposure. The MD clubs don't find the need to force parents to pay the money and take the extra time out of summer to go to Indiana to play a bunch of B/C teams. We spend all spring/summer playing top competition.

Age has nothing to do with it. You keep buying what CR is selling. That's why your clubs cost over $3000 and ours cost less than $2000
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 08:53 PM
YJ out scored their opponents 69-2 in 3 games. They should be so proud. You can update the website with the headline of "Threepeat". Maybe even a ticker tape parade down main st in Northport.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 09:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No way 2nd


Why not? they have beaten tg many times and I'm sure that they can play with yj carro, who does that leave on LI?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 10:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy to see that CR has far reaching clout wherever she goes. 2019 blue team might have the easiest schedule ever given in this tournament. 3 teams that will not win a game. Next games opponent has lost 3 games by a combined score of 47-8. Tournament is a total joke.


All while the MD girls are relaxing and enjoying at least part of their summer. I hear Indiana is beautiful this time of year though. But it will look good on the YJ website if they win.



Plus, MD girls can't go. This is a true age based tourney (U15), not grad year based. Those MD teams would be a mess with all of the roster adjustments they'd have to make to qualify under these age rules. You'd have 2020's and 2021's playing in the U15 bracket. They don't want that.


Of course this is the response. Even though it is not based in truth at all. Girls don't holdback like boys. And the tournament has a 9/1 cutoff date which is the same as MD schools. The simple fact is that the US Nationals are a complete waste of money. [lacrosse] poor competition with very little college coach exposure. The MD clubs don't find the need to force parents to pay the money and take the extra time out of summer to go to Indiana to play a bunch of B/C teams. We spend all spring/summer playing top competition.

Age has nothing to do with it. You keep buying what CR is selling. That's why your clubs cost over $3000 and ours cost less than $2000



Yawn, typical MD response. Oh yea, the boys holdback but the girls don't? "The boys holdback but the girls don't"; "The boys holdback but the girls don't"; "The boys holdback but the girls don't". Boy, they beat that response into your heads down there. What's good for one is always good for the other in any organization. The world has been like that forever, except in Maryland girls lacrosse of course. They break the mold. OK.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/19/16 10:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy to see that CR has far reaching clout wherever she goes. 2019 blue team might have the easiest schedule ever given in this tournament. 3 teams that will not win a game. Next games opponent has lost 3 games by a combined score of 47-8. Tournament is a total joke.


All while the MD girls are relaxing and enjoying at least part of their summer. I hear Indiana is beautiful this time of year though. But it will look good on the YJ website if they win.



Plus, MD girls can't go. This is a true age based tourney (U15), not grad year based. Those MD teams would be a mess with all of the roster adjustments they'd have to make to qualify under these age rules. You'd have 2020's and 2021's playing in the U15 bracket. They don't want that.


Of course this is the response. Even though it is not based in truth at all. Girls don't holdback like boys. And the tournament has a 9/1 cutoff date which is the same as MD schools. The simple fact is that the US Nationals are a complete waste of money. [lacrosse] poor competition with very little college coach exposure. The MD clubs don't find the need to force parents to pay the money and take the extra time out of summer to go to Indiana to play a bunch of B/C teams. We spend all spring/summer playing top competition.

Age has nothing to do with it. You keep buying what CR is selling. That's why your clubs cost over $3000 and ours cost less than $2000



Yawn, typical MD response. Oh yea, the boys holdback but the girls don't? "The boys holdback but the girls don't"; "The boys holdback but the girls don't"; "The boys holdback but the girls don't". Boy, they beat that response into your heads down there. What's good for one is always good for the other in any organization. The world has been like that forever, except in Maryland girls lacrosse of course. They break the mold. OK.



There's one thing we don't have here in MD that there is a lot of in NY, and that is clubs that have a boys and girls team. I can think of only one...M&D for girls and Zingos for the boys. So, for the 1,000,000,000th time...girls do not hold back here in MD like they do in NY or on boy's teams. But, continue to drink the CR kool-aid of misinformation. It's one of her favorite ways to explain a loss to a MD team. She has two more losses to explain from today.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 12:59 AM
This is funny. LI thinks the only reason they get beat up on by MD teams is hold backs? Sooooo pathetic. Wah wah. My girl is the best on the island but gets stuffed every time in MD. That's ok because they are older. Loser!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 02:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is funny. LI thinks the only reason they get beat up on by MD teams is hold backs? Sooooo pathetic. Wah wah. My girl is the best on the island but gets stuffed every time in MD. That's ok because they are older. Loser!


Only YJ parents say that. Please don't lump the rest of LI in with them. Thank you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 02:44 AM
Point taken. Thanks for the clarification and it makes sense.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 03:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy to see that CR has far reaching clout wherever she goes. 2019 blue team might have the easiest schedule ever given in this tournament. 3 teams that will not win a game. Next games opponent has lost 3 games by a combined score of 47-8. Tournament is a total joke.


All while the MD girls are relaxing and enjoying at least part of their summer. I hear Indiana is beautiful this time of year though. But it will look good on the YJ website if they win.


If your kid does not enjoy playing lax and hanging out w her teamates then why do you force her to play at all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 03:14 AM
Just Curious then please explain all the hold acks on your MD and DC under armour teams . Are they from somewhere else ? Also which YJ team is it that needs to make excuses after losing to MD teams so much ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 12:21 PM
Must be missing something. Out of the MD and DC Under Armour teams, only one player with a mid August birthday, that could marginally be classified as a holdback? The rest are all Sept 2000 or later birthdays? Frankly if any of my daughters had a mid to late August birthday I'd consider placing them in a grade where they would be one of the oldest, not the youngest. So where are all these hold backs everyone keeps talking about? BTW, no dog in the fight. Not from LI or MD/DC.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 12:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Must be missing something. Out of the MD and DC Under Armour teams, only one player with a mid August birthday, that could marginally be classified as a holdback? The rest are all Sept 2000 or later birthdays? Frankly if any of my daughters had a mid to late August birthday I'd consider placing them in a grade where they would be one of the oldest, not the youngest. So where are all these hold backs everyone keeps talking about? BTW, no dog in the fight. Not from LI or MD/DC.



We're all missing something here, except for the LI people who have a misconception (fed to them by their club directors) that MD girls are held back a year so they can beat up on LI club teams. First of all, no one can actually find anyone who has been held back, except for the LI YJ lemmings who insist it happens all the time. Second, if it did happen, then doing it so your club team could have a better chance of beating a LI club team is ridiculous. What a stupid reason. Third, these lemmings on YJ will believe any excuse that CR tells them. Even if evidence shows it doesn't happen, if CR tells them it happens (usually right after a loss to a MD team) then they believe it. By the way, this is mostly a YJ issue. They are the most vocal when they get beaten.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 12:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just Curious then please explain all the hold acks on your MD and DC under armour teams . Are they from somewhere else ? Also which YJ team is it that needs to make excuses after losing to MD teams so much ?
Come on, I am a L.I. parent and the Y.J. do make excuses, just look back in any age group or your own thread. In late June it was that you had players in the N.Y. state tournament, then the holdback excuse. But lets be totally honest about the Md. people also, though I do not believe that the girls are being held back at any great rate, they are being drawn from an entire state, as opposed to L.I. and its 2 counties. Now I know that the M.D. parents will say the pull from only a a few mid Md. counties, but those counties include 2 major cities, Baltimore and Washington D.C. so the pool of players is much greater in M.D. the here on the island. T make it really equal we would need to pull from westchester and rockland to get the same number of perspective players. Before any Md. parents start claiming that we get players from NYC, we don't, lax is very small in the city unlike in Baltimore or Washington, as far as I know there are no city players on any L.I. team and no NYC clubs at all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 12:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's easy to see that CR has far reaching clout wherever she goes. 2019 blue team might have the easiest schedule ever given in this tournament. 3 teams that will not win a game. Next games opponent has lost 3 games by a combined score of 47-8. Tournament is a total joke.


All while the MD girls are relaxing and enjoying at least part of their summer. I hear Indiana is beautiful this time of year though. But it will look good on the YJ website if they win.




If your kid does not enjoy playing lax and hanging out w her teamates then why do you force her to play at all.


I don't force her to play. She loves lacrosse. She plays 10 months a year for club and school with this month off and a month off in December. Certainly think it's healthy to take a break now and then and you know...be a kid. And she's at the beach with two of her teammates.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just Curious then please explain all the hold acks on your MD and DC under armour teams . Are they from somewhere else ? Also which YJ team is it that needs to make excuses after losing to MD teams so much ?
Come on, I am a L.I. parent and the Y.J. do make excuses, just look back in any age group or your own thread. In late June it was that you had players in the N.Y. state tournament, then the holdback excuse. But lets be totally honest about the Md. people also, though I do not believe that the girls are being held back at any great rate, they are being drawn from an entire state, as opposed to L.I. and its 2 counties. Now I know that the M.D. parents will say the pull from only a a few mid Md. counties, but those counties include 2 major cities, Baltimore and Washington D.C. so the pool of players is much greater in M.D. the here on the island. T make it really equal we would need to pull from westchester and rockland to get the same number of perspective players. Before any Md. parents start claiming that we get players from NYC, we don't, lax is very small in the city unlike in Baltimore or Washington, as far as I know there are no city players on any L.I. team and no NYC clubs at all.


If you think there are a lot of lacrosse player in Baltimore City or Washington DC I don't know what to tell you. You've obviously not spent much time there if you feel that way.

It is true that probably 95% of the girls on M&D, Skywalkers and Heros are from Baltimore, Howard, Montgomery and Carroll counties. The combined population of those counties is far smaller than the population that the LI clubs draw from.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 02:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just Curious then please explain all the hold acks on your MD and DC under armour teams . Are they from somewhere else ? Also which YJ team is it that needs to make excuses after losing to MD teams so much ?


Just curious where you are coming up with the idea that there are a ton of holdbacks on the MD and DC teams. You do know that the school cutoff in MD is 9/1?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just Curious then please explain all the hold acks on your MD and DC under armour teams . Are they from somewhere else ? Also which YJ team is it that needs to make excuses after losing to MD teams so much ?
Come on, I am a L.I. parent and the Y.J. do make excuses, just look back in any age group or your own thread. In late June it was that you had players in the N.Y. state tournament, then the holdback excuse. But lets be totally honest about the Md. people also, though I do not believe that the girls are being held back at any great rate, they are being drawn from an entire state, as opposed to L.I. and its 2 counties. Now I know that the M.D. parents will say the pull from only a a few mid Md. counties, but those counties include 2 major cities, Baltimore and Washington D.C. so the pool of players is much greater in M.D. the here on the island. T make it really equal we would need to pull from westchester and rockland to get the same number of perspective players. Before any Md. parents start claiming that we get players from NYC, we don't, lax is very small in the city unlike in Baltimore or Washington, as far as I know there are no city players on any L.I. team and no NYC clubs at all.



MD parent here. I agree with a little, but I will do my best to dispel a misconception you guys may have. For the most part, there are no girls from Baltimore or Washington DC who play any significant lacrosse. True, there are quite a few private schools in Baltimore County (outside the city), but all those girls on all those teams are from the surrounding counties (Howard, Anne Arundel, etc...). They are not from Baltimore proper. Same for Washington DC. A few private schools that play some decent lacrosse, but none of the girls who play are from DC. There are only a few good teams in Northern Virginia that even play lax. My guess is that there are more girls in the LI counties who play lax than there are in the MD counties that play. You guys have a larger pool of quality players to choose from. Just my two cents.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 04:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just Curious then please explain all the hold acks on your MD and DC under armour teams . Are they from somewhere else ? Also which YJ team is it that needs to make excuses after losing to MD teams so much ?
Come on, I am a L.I. parent and the Y.J. do make excuses, just look back in any age group or your own thread. In late June it was that you had players in the N.Y. state tournament, then the holdback excuse. But lets be totally honest about the Md. people also, though I do not believe that the girls are being held back at any great rate, they are being drawn from an entire state, as opposed to L.I. and its 2 counties. Now I know that the M.D. parents will say the pull from only a a few mid Md. counties, but those counties include 2 major cities, Baltimore and Washington D.C. so the pool of players is much greater in M.D. the here on the island. T make it really equal we would need to pull from westchester and rockland to get the same number of perspective players. Before any Md. parents start claiming that we get players from NYC, we don't, lax is very small in the city unlike in Baltimore or Washington, as far as I know there are no city players on any L.I. team and no NYC clubs at all.



MD parent here. I agree with a little, but I will do my best to dispel a misconception you guys may have. For the most part, there are no girls from Baltimore or Washington DC who play any significant lacrosse. True, there are quite a few private schools in Baltimore County (outside the city), but all those girls on all those teams are from the surrounding counties (Howard, Anne Arundel, etc...). They are not from Baltimore proper. Same for Washington DC. A few private schools that play some decent lacrosse, but none of the girls who play are from DC. There are only a few good teams in Northern Virginia that even play lax. My guess is that there are more girls in the LI counties who play lax than there are in the MD counties that play. You guys have a larger pool of quality players to choose from. Just my two cents.


Agree w all of this. That is why if you have a daughter who is two or three years old, the argument won't be whether LI is better than Maryland etc, but instead it will be a discussion of longing for the old glory days when California, Florida, Texas etc were just pimples on the collective girl's lax map. It is quaint these LI/MD lax discussions, but is missing the bigger sea change.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 05:33 PM
YJ Gold beat TG Purple in the round of 16, 9-6. Looks like YJ Blue and TG Black will be meeting in the Semi's tomorrow.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 07:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Gold beat TG Purple in the round of 16, 9-6. Looks like YJ Blue and TG Black will be meeting in the Semi's tomorrow.


The TG purple team is mostly 2020 black players with 19 purple and a 2021 goalie
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 08:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
YJ Gold beat TG Purple in the round of 16, 9-6. Looks like YJ Blue and TG Black will be meeting in the Semi's tomorrow.


How did Liberty end up at the U15s?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 08:43 PM
just did some quick math
Nassau & Suffolk Counties combined is 2.8 million total pop.

The 4 Md. counties (Carroll, Montgomery, Baltimore, Howard) 2.3 million

I find it hard to believe that the Md. clubs are not pulling from Anne Arundel (Annapolis), Harford (bel Air) or Queen Anns (centerville) if added in Md pulling from 3.16 million

Pretty close in numbers though. But remember , just by geographical location L.I. does not pull from any other source because the city pretty much isolates it from every other place on earth, ( if you ever tried to get through it you know what I mean), where kids from the Northern Virginia and other Md. counties could make the drive, and I am sure they do
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 09:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
just did some quick math
Nassau & Suffolk Counties combined is 2.8 million total pop.

The 4 Md. counties (Carroll, Montgomery, Baltimore, Howard) 2.3 million

I find it hard to believe that the Md. clubs are not pulling from Anne Arundel (Annapolis), Harford (bel Air) or Queen Anns (centerville) if added in Md pulling from 3.16 million

Pretty close in numbers though. But remember , just by geographical location L.I. does not pull from any other source because the city pretty much isolates it from every other place on earth, ( if you ever tried to get through it you know what I mean), where kids from the Northern Virginia and other Md. counties could make the drive, and I am sure they do


At worst, the populations are pretty close. Point is, that with populations that close in size, MD is able to field 3 or 4 top teams at each grade, while LI seems to have one "Elite" team on the island. If the girls in MD all gravitated to one club as they do on LI, that would be quite a team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 09:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
just did some quick math
Nassau & Suffolk Counties combined is 2.8 million total pop.

The 4 Md. counties (Carroll, Montgomery, Baltimore, Howard) 2.3 million

I find it hard to believe that the Md. clubs are not pulling from Anne Arundel (Annapolis), Harford (bel Air) or Queen Anns (centerville) if added in Md pulling from 3.16 million

Pretty close in numbers though. But remember , just by geographical location L.I. does not pull from any other source because the city pretty much isolates it from every other place on earth, ( if you ever tried to get through it you know what I mean), where kids from the Northern Virginia and other Md. counties could make the drive, and I am sure they do



Very interesting. Here's some more info about the MD counties...most of the players come from Anne Arundel and Howard. Then, the rest...Carroll, Harford...step down to (maybe) Montgomery, Quenn Annes...way down to Baltimore. There just isn't much decent lax played, across the board, in counties other than Anne Arundel and Howard. All you have to do is look at the last 3A/4A public school state champions for the last 10-15 years. I use public schools as my measuring stick because they have to take the kids that are in the district. Tne privates down here can draw from any where...MD, DC and even a few from Northern Virginia. My guess is that the club with the most "reach" is M&D (Maryland & DC). TLC gets a lot of kids from north of Baltimore. CC Lax, Integrity, Md United draw almost exclusively from Anne Arundel. SkyWalkers and Heroes draw mostly from Montgomery and Howard. Capital draws from all of Northern Virginia. There is very little migration to far away club teams down here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 09:58 PM
Liberty undefeated after 2 days of play, 2ns seed.
Beat YJ MITCHEL/gold today to advance to semi game.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/20/16 11:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
just did some quick math
Nassau & Suffolk Counties combined is 2.8 million total pop.

The 4 Md. counties (Carroll, Montgomery, Baltimore, Howard) 2.3 million

I find it hard to believe that the Md. clubs are not pulling from Anne Arundel (Annapolis), Harford (bel Air) or Queen Anns (centerville) if added in Md pulling from 3.16 million

Pretty close in numbers though. But remember , just by geographical location L.I. does not pull from any other source because the city pretty much isolates it from every other place on earth, ( if you ever tried to get through it you know what I mean), where kids from the Northern Virginia and other Md. counties could make the drive, and I am sure they do



Very interesting. Here's some more info about the MD counties...most of the players come from Anne Arundel and Howard. Then, the rest...Carroll, Harford...step down to (maybe) Montgomery, Quenn Annes...way down to Baltimore. There just isn't much decent lax played, across the board, in counties other than Anne Arundel and Howard. All you have to do is look at the last 3A/4A public school state champions for the last 10-15 years. I use public schools as my measuring stick because they have to take the kids that are in the district. Tne privates down here can draw from any where...MD, DC and even a few from Northern Virginia. My guess is that the club with the most "reach" is M&D (Maryland & DC). TLC gets a lot of kids from north of Baltimore. CC Lax, Integrity, Md United draw almost exclusively from Anne Arundel. SkyWalkers and Heroes draw mostly from Montgomery and Howard. Capital draws from all of Northern Virginia. There is very little migration to far away club teams down here.


You're an idiot. Most of the top Baltimore County girls go to private schools. Just because Baltimore County publics don't dominate public school lacrosse means nothing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Girls 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016 - 07/21/16 02:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
just did some quick math
Nassau & Suffolk Counties combined is 2.8 million total pop.

The 4 Md. counties (Carroll, Montgomery, Baltimore, Howard) 2.3 million

I find it hard to believe that the Md. clubs are not pulling from Anne Arundel (Annapolis), Harford (bel Air) or Queen Anns (centerville) if added in Md pulling from 3.16 million

Pretty close in numbers though. But remember , just by geographical location L.I. does not pull from any other source because the city pretty much isolates it from every other place on earth, ( if yo