The Nassau County and Suffolk County boys lacrosse seasons are right around the corner. The preseason rankings are usually pretty good at predicting the eventual leaders. Every year however there are teams that surprise everyone and perform better than expected and teams that under achieve.
Who are those teams in 2015?
Mt Sinai will be a power!!
Suffolk B will have to go through the north shore again.Shoreham,MT.Sinia,Rocky Point and Miller Place
Mt Sinai will be a power!!
Saw them scrimmage Saturday against WM. Not a bad team but they need scoring. Defense and goalie looked strong but they need more shooters.
Suffolk A will be the usual suspects. SmE and W are always good with SME touted as being team to beat. WM, Sachem north, Northport all will be good. I have heard WI may have an off year, but they are always good so let's let them play before writing off.
Problem is that with the reshuffle of schedules, some of these teams won't even play each other until the playoffs...
Smithtown East, Ward Melville and Sachem will compete for County title. Smithtown East probably repeats. stacked squad and more importantly, good coaches.
Smithtown East, Ward Melville and Sachem will compete for County title. Smithtown East probably repeats. stacked squad and more importantly, good coaches.
How many D1 commits on that team will see little to no playing time?could lead to some jealousy and infighting about who deserves to be on the field!
no way will anyone complain. parents especially are so very supportive and realistic.
no way will anyone complain. parents especially are so very supportive and realistic.
Yes, and BOC reflects that level of support and understanding.
never a boast nor brag....always level headed , honest and respectful. truly inspiring....
Suffolk B will have to go through the north shore again.Shoreham,MT.Sinia,Rocky Point and Miller Place
I think you could see Sayville take the B title in Suffolk. Their young studs have another year of experience and their defense will be aggressive, large and nasty. I've seen them play a few times in the winter league at Bay Shore, they look VERY good.
Suffolk B will have to go through the north shore again.Shoreham,MT.Sinia,Rocky Point and Miller Place
I think you could see Sayville take the B title in Suffolk. Their young studs have another year of experience and their defense will be aggressive, large and nasty. I've seen them play a few times in the winter league at Bay Shore, they look VERY good.
Suffolk B is a "pick em" this year. Very good, too to bottom. SWR is interesting with a coach that will straighten things out. They could take it.
Usual powers in B this year, Sayville, Rocky Point, Miller Place etc....however my 2015 pick for sleeper is Hauppauge. Tough, hard nosed team that is going to surprise people. Typically would include SWR although they are still trying to right the ship from the Rotanz firing that was only exacerbated by the subsequent hiring and firing of Arini.
ESM could be on top Coach Huff has been building up Team ESM for several years.This could be the year it all comes together.
And maybe the jets will win the superbowl next yr.
That was a little uncalled for.
Let's keep it positive.
His 8th grade group has been beating everyone they play.
Future is bright.
That was a little uncalled for.
Let's keep it positive.
His 8th grade group has been beating everyone they play.
Future is bright.
You are on the wrong page, this is boys varsity. ESM's 8th graders are not winning the county championship. Come back on here in 2 years, then we'll talk.
no way will anyone complain. parents especially are so very supportive and realistic.
Hilarious! Your sarcasm is perfect.
That was a little uncalled for.
Let's keep it positive.
His 8th grade group has been beating everyone they play.
Future is bright.
You are on the wrong page, this is boys varsity. ESM's 8th graders are not winning the county championship. Come back on here in 2 years, then we'll talk.
2 years? Try 3 or 4 years. They aren't even a top team in their age group. What have you done lately?
That was a little uncalled for.
Let's keep it positive.
His 8th grade group has been beating everyone they play.
Future is bright.
You are on the wrong page, this is boys varsity. ESM's 8th graders are not winning the county championship. Come back on here in 2 years, then we'll talk.
In two years won't this group of 8th graders be in 9th grade
Almosy as good as the riverhead girls 8th graders playing varsity......Im told we cant understand.....its an East End thing.
ESM could be on top Coach Huff has been building up Team ESM for several years.This could be the year it all comes together.
Sounds like a disgruntled parent-go to St Anthony's please.
[quote=Anonymous]That was a little uncalled for.
Let's keep it positive.
His 8th grade group has been beating everyone they play.
Future is bright. [/quote
They don't play top teams. So please be realistic. And let's keep this a varsity thread please.
That was a little uncalled for.
Let's keep it positive.
His 8th grade group has been beating everyone they play.
Future is bright.
You are on the wrong page, this is boys varsity. ESM's 8th graders are not winning the county championship. Come back on here in 2 years, then we'll talk.
In two years won't this group of 8th graders be in 9th grade
THERE ARE LIMITED PLAYES ON LI WHO CAN PLAY JV AS AN 8TH GRADER THOSE ARE THE SAME PLAYERS THAT WILL MAKE A MARK ON VARSITY IN A FEW YEARS.
HOW WILL IT BE THAT IN TWO YEARS THE 8TH GRADE GROUP WILL BE IN 9TH GRADE. WHAT KIND OF MATH IS THAT? IF A MISTAKE WAS MADE AND MEANT 10TH GRADE SHOULDNT THOSE PLAYERS WHO GET SPRINKLED IN THEN BE LUCKY TO BE PLAYING VARSITY.
That was a little uncalled for.
Let's keep it positive.
His 8th grade group has been beating everyone they play.
Future is bright.
You are on the wrong page, this is boys varsity. ESM's 8th graders are not winning the county championship. Come back on here in 2 years, then we'll talk.
In two years won't this group of 8th graders be in 9th grade
THERE ARE LIMITED PLAYES ON LI WHO CAN PLAY JV AS AN 8TH GRADER THOSE ARE THE SAME PLAYERS THAT WILL MAKE A MARK ON VARSITY IN A FEW YEARS.
HOW WILL IT BE THAT IN TWO YEARS THE 8TH GRADE GROUP WILL BE IN 9TH GRADE. WHAT KIND OF MATH IS THAT? IF A MISTAKE WAS MADE AND MEANT 10TH GRADE SHOULDNT THOSE PLAYERS WHO GET SPRINKLED IN THEN BE LUCKY TO BE PLAYING VARSITY.
The reference to the boys being in 9th in 2yrs time was a bit of sarcasm. I.e. they will drop back a grade or hold back/pg.
Btw, I love the sarcasm:)
Suffolk B will have to go through the north shore again.Shoreham,MT.Sinia,Rocky Point and Miller Place
I think you could see Sayville take the B title in Suffolk. Their young studs have another year of experience and their defense will be aggressive, large and nasty. I've seen them play a few times in the winter league at Bay Shore, they look VERY good.
Watched Sayville beat West Islip this winter, they have large athletic defense and some slick mids and attack. Known for blue collar lacrosse, Sayville will be in the mix.
Just a congrats to Port Jeff which will field its first varsity team this year. Program has been building for years. Hope they do well.
Sprinkled in.
If you keep having boys play at a higher level you will never catch up.
Players will always drop out and give up before they mature with that mindset.
Truly successful programs will have 10 to 15 studs at every level.
Senior / Junior / Sophmore / Freshmen
Better to keep them together for the long haul, instead of always robbing from the bottom to fill the top.
If the glass has a hole at the bottom, it can truly never fill up.
As a result some schools will never be in the running.
Suffolk B will have to go through the north shore again.Shoreham,MT.Sinia,Rocky Point and Miller Place
I think you could see Sayville take the B title in Suffolk. Their young studs have another year of experience and their defense will be aggressive, large and nasty. I've seen them play a few times in the winter league at Bay Shore, they look VERY good.
West Islip A or B? They field 2 teams.
Watched Sayville beat West Islip this winter, they have large athletic defense and some slick mids and attack. Known for blue collar lacrosse, Sayville will be in the mix.
Massapequa v Chaminade 3/25. Winner of that game is No. 1 in my book. Smithtown East and Smithtown West plus St Anthony's round out the top 5.
Massapequa v Chaminade 3/25. Winner of that game is No. 1 in my book. Smithtown East and Smithtown West plus St Anthony's round out the top 5.
Smithtown East is pre-season No. 1 in my book
Massapequa v Chaminade 3/25. Winner of that game is No. 1 in my book. Smithtown East and Smithtown West plus St Anthony's round out the top 5.
Smithtown East is pre-season No. 1 in my book
Have to agree. East is loaded from last year, plus the incoming Freshman (3 studs at Middie) are off the charts good. I bet they will be preseason Top 5 in IL Top 25. They are that good.
Massapequa v Chaminade 3/25. Winner of that game is No. 1 in my book. Smithtown East and Smithtown West plus St Anthony's round out the top 5.
What about Nassau rankings?
Can we put this to rest once and for all.
NASSAU lacrosse blows Suffolk away!!!! Cant compare. We have GC and Manhasset for starters. Who does Suffolk have. NUTHIN'. Just saying.
Ward Melville, Sachem, HHH, Walt Whitman all more likely in Top 5 then Smithtown West. Smithtown East clear #1.
Can we put this to rest once and for all.
NASSAU lacrosse blows Suffolk away!!!! Cant compare. We have GC and Manhasset for starters. Who does Suffolk have. NUTHIN'. Just saying.
LMAO -
I hope a child wrote that last post.
Ward Melville, Sachem, HHH, Walt Whitman all more likely in Top 5 then Smithtown West. Smithtown East clear #1.
Agreed, plus west I, Northport and about 5-6 B Teams all better than SW
Sprinkled in.
If you keep having boys play at a higher level you will never catch up.
Players will always drop out and give up before they mature with that mindset.
Truly successful programs will have 10 to 15 studs at every level.
Senior / Junior / Sophmore / Freshmen
Better to keep them together for the long haul, instead of always robbing from the bottom to fill the top.
If the glass has a hole at the bottom, it can truly never fill up.
As a result some schools will never be in the running.
I respectfully disagree. If the glass never gets enough talent to fill 1/2 of the perverbial cup you need to pull up. Look at some of the div 1 teams Longwood Brentwood Patmed William Floyd then Middle Country Bay Shore Lindy That's 7 of the 13 in League 1. Would be interesting to see these schools rosters. I'd bet they'd be sprinkled with underclassman if anyone were true players.
you have schools like hills e with primo 2018 recruits. Hills West had a freshman starter last year. Smithtown west had another freshman playing. Etc. I think when you sprinkle in younger players it strengthens the program.
Who cares the grade of a player, if an underclassman player is your best option You move them up and play them. After the safety of the students, what is a coaches job? I hope it is to win. Then build character and teach the sport to the best of the athletes and coaches abilities.
I am sure all the big school coaches, and junior and senior D1 commits are worried about the 3 fgreshman kids.please this is big time varsity when you are talking about winning it all.
I am sure all the big school coaches, and junior and senior D1 commits are worried about the 3 fgreshman kids.please this is big time varsity when you are talking about winning it all.
You say worried, I say welcome those underclassman. If not for them then a lesser talented player gets the spot. And those D1 commits don't want that either.
A lesser talented kid that works is [lacrosse] off, but wasn't given the god given stuff,I think it is sad to take away that great experience of playing varsity high school lacrosse,from that kid, just to fill the ego of some parents.
not sure what your point is here. do you thin k if your kid doesn't have the talent to make team, he or she should be placed on team anyway and at expense of a better player so that he/she doesn't lose self esteem?
Varsity teams should always try and field the best team possible. In my community, the varsity coach would lose his position if he were not successful - a bad year or two is one thing but producing weak teams regularly would not be acceptable. I am not sure where parents come into the equation at all - it seems like parents of older kids that end up not playing much have much more problems with their egos being hurt - they seem to make all of the noise. I firmly believe in a meritocracy - particularly at the high school level. Start all seniors or start all freshmen - whatever gives your team the best chance to succeed. Not everyone gets a trophy at this age.
Varsity teams should always try and field the best team possible. In my community, the varsity coach would lose his position if he were not successful - a bad year or two is one thing but producing weak teams regularly would not be acceptable. I am not sure where parents come into the equation at all - it seems like parents of older kids that end up not playing much have much more problems with their egos being hurt - they seem to make all of the noise. I firmly believe in a meritocracy - particularly at the high school level. Start all seniors or start all freshmen - whatever gives your team the best chance to succeed. Not everyone gets a trophy at this age.
Agree with your point with only exception in that I find it is the parents of the younger kids egos being hurt - they were recruited early and maybe even committed but having hard time getting playing time due to older players who were late bloomers.
your h.s. coach would lose his job if they had 1 or 2 bad years?
CHALLENGE
I am saying they both are gonna sit the bench, but the junior or senior has no options, the 9th grader can play JV all game, wasting a year on the bench is stupid in my eyes, god have some fun.
I believe you misunderstood me - the hs coach would not lose his job for a couple of bad seasons but he most definitely be on the hot seat if it got to the 3-4 season period of poor performance - my point is that it is the coaches best interest to field his strongest team possible and the vast majority do ....
just because the last couple of years 9th and 10th graders have been committing does not mean they are better than kids who are class of 2015.
class of 2015 (definitely 2013/14) were not committing in 9th or 10th grade, but they are still on h.s. team . the culture may have changed but the game has not. with few exceptions , very few, in a strong h.s. program, the 11th and 12th graders are better off on the field. they have been playing in system and growing bigger and stronger ...and they waited their turn.
misunderstood what? read what you wrote. when was the last time a coach in even the best lacrosse program or community was deposed because of having even 4 average years? it doesn't happen.
it does not happen because the best programs remain the best each year - if a top hs program on LI reversed and it was because the coach was playing younger players then he would be gone
misunderstood what? read what you wrote. when was the last time a coach in even the best lacrosse program or community was deposed because of having even 4 average years? it doesn't happen.
Exactly, you're not taking things into account like, tenure and union membership... You don't lose a job in that environment for poor performance. Will take much more than that.
just because the last couple of years 9th and 10th graders have been committing does not mean they are better than kids who are class of 2015.
class of 2015 (definitely 2013/14) were not committing in 9th or 10th grade, but they are still on h.s. team . the culture may have changed but the game has not. with few exceptions , very few, in a strong h.s. program, the 11th and 12th graders are better off on the field. they have been playing in system and growing bigger and stronger ...and they waited their turn.
Very true post. Sad but true
just because the last couple of years 9th and 10th graders have been committing does not mean they are better than kids who are class of 2015.
class of 2015 (definitely 2013/14) were not committing in 9th or 10th grade, but they are still on h.s. team . the culture may have changed but the game has not. with few exceptions , very few, in a strong h.s. program, the 11th and 12th graders are better off on the field. they have been playing in system and growing bigger and stronger ...and they waited their turn.
How about a few uncommitted 9th graders playing pivotal roles on their teams last year. Can't wait to see their soph year.
Don't want to call their names out... If you know the sport you'll know whom
Very true post. Sad but true
A lesser talented kid that works is [lacrosse] off, but wasn't given the god given stuff,I think it is sad to take away that great experience of playing varsity high school lacrosse,from that kid, just to fill the ego of some parents.
Since this is varsity HS not pal or travel I will say. Are you @&$)(;:/- kidding me.
What kind of lesson do you send when a loser talented player plays over a talented kid. A lesser talented kid does not start unless there is an attitude problem from the talented player. Players get adequate time commiserate to their skill or team need.
Yes you reward hard work, but not over talent. You can work hard workers in. Again back to the subject, ask the talented senior or that jr waiting for that call, who they want next to them or in goal or on the x or wing. Their friend or the young kid who is better and has shown can help win.
I tell my son when you get older and work, you are only as good as the people you surround yourself with. Don't let jealousy or pride get in the way. Work smarter not harder.
Oy vey!!!!!!!!!
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How those 9th graders do in Long Island champ game? Be honest if you had another older player you would have won.
How those 9th graders do in Long Island champ game? Be honest if you had another older player you would have won.
I think we are overlooking the evolution of the game. Kids starting earlier, training getting better, stronger competition on clubs and town teams..........
The skill level of a talented 9th grader today is much higher than a 9th grader from even 3 or 4 years ago..
How those 9th graders do in Long Island champ game? Be honest if you had another older player you would have won.
How did some d1 bound Sr's do. Goes both ways.
So didn't both Smithtown teams start underclassman. Sure they didn't win it all. But that isn't the point. The point is playing those kids over others less talented (over just being older and working hard being on the team). Seems like the right choice was made to me it brought both so far. You know there can only be two teams in the Li championships. Doesn't diminish the others teams talent.
Hhh was another team with notable few young stud players no Champ game for them, not now at least, that team will be solid coming up. Right call playing those kids.
Some of those lower "seeded"team had freshman and sophomores playing parly that into a year or two when their 'mates catch up and look out. There are some soph who wish they had better Sr's.
The point is if teams had the upper classman that were more talented they would have played. They didn't. Hhh had some posts about this last year. I said more not equal. Bring it on here and say underclassman should wait.
I say not. If an underclassman is equal in talent and poise, the underclassman wins the minutes.
The real loss is not having budgets for freshman, JV and varsity teams. This was the best format to build a progression as well as expose players to HS sports/ lax. Doing it this strengthens a program...
Did u win states ? The answer is no. You will not win states with freshman
Did u win states ? The answer is no. You will not win states with freshman
But my son has to start as a freshman! He is the best player on his travel team! What's wrong with you people can't you see how great he is? I need him to start I mean he wants to start so badly.
his summer coach promised he would start at h.s. !!!
best players play - everyone loves to question the coaches and their motives - I think they do what they think is best for their program - you may not like it but in some cases freshman deserve to start - West Islip were pretty successful starting some freshman and that was already a few years back - kid from CSH started as an 8th grader - SE had an incredible year and I believe they started a couple of freshman - it is no the norm but to say it is wrong does not make any sense - coaches play the best
To be a HS coach is becoming a nightmare now with all the Summer recruiting crap. We all know HS coaches who are in a dilemma where a 9th or 10th grader is committed to big name ACC or Big 10 U but the Junior or Senior at the same position who is not recruited or going D3 is just as skilled and probably physically much stronger and gives the team a slightly better chance to win. Will be interesting to see what he does.
To be a HS coach is becoming a nightmare now with all the Summer recruiting crap. We all know HS coaches who are in a dilemma where a 9th or 10th grader is committed to big name ACC or Big 10 U but the Junior or Senior at the same position who is not recruited or going D3 is just as skilled and probably physically much stronger and gives the team a slightly better chance to win. Will be interesting to see what he does.
Stop making it a nightmare story. Freshman play because they are better. Coaches know it. I would not be surprised to se a 7th grader play varsity sometime this year. Ok you say a weaker school if you know but div 1 non the less. I am sure the players will welcome it and some May question it but see what happens.
You play the best you have and if any players skill and size fits the need nothing better who cares grade. If they care grade they should get fired!!!! Safety should be the only concerned
7th grader really, are you stupid.
7th grader really, are you stupid.
He's not stupid, just biased. It's his 9th grader and rising 6th grader he has in mind after all.
The lax world has gone looney tunes. This generation of high school and youth laxers will have a high price to pay for all of the rush-to-commit mindset that has developed around the game.
Show me a 10th grader that knows where he wants to go to college (i.e. the right/best school for the Profession he chooses), and I will show you a liar.
Okay, maybe the rare kid (holdbacks?), who has academics locked down and has matured ahead of his time is ready to commit to a college in 10th grade.
8th & 9th grade commits? Rubbish.
7th grader really, are you stupid.
He's not stupid, just biased. It's his 9th grader and rising 6th grader he has in mind after all.
The lax world has gone looney tunes. This generation of high school and youth laxers will have a high price to pay for all of the rush-to-commit mindset that has developed around the game.
Show me a 10th grader that knows where he wants to go to college (i.e. the right/best school for the Profession he chooses), and I will show you a liar.
Okay, maybe the rare kid (holdbacks?), who has academics locked down and has matured ahead of his time is ready to commit to a college in 10th grade.
8th & 9th grade commits? Rubbish.
Rubbish? Liar? Says the angry dad of a kid that has no chance of an early verbal
To be a HS coach is becoming a nightmare now with all the Summer recruiting crap. We all know HS coaches who are in a dilemma where a 9th or 10th grader is committed to big name ACC or Big 10 U but the Junior or Senior at the same position who is not recruited or going D3 is just as skilled and probably physically much stronger and gives the team a slightly better chance to win. Will be interesting to see what he does.
If the senior is as skilled and "probably" physically much stronger and gives the team a slightly better chance to win... the coach will play him. The coaches and EVERY kid on that field knows who should be playing. the only people that have problems with this are the dads in he stands! The anger and jealousy over early recruiting is worse than the early recruiting itself. "Show me a 10th grader that knows where he wants to go to college, and I will show you a liar"? Give me an 11th or 12th grader that knows any better. Most of these kids have been traveling and visiting schools for years. Parents are involved (sometimes overly) and guiding them. It actually gives most of these kids more drive and focus. There are definitely some concerns with the early recruiting but the anger and hatred towards these kids and their parents is ridiculous. Again, LAX 101...play your best players!!! You wouldn't "dumb down" your academics for a very hard working senior with a B average, so don't "dumb down" your athletic fields either!!
The best 17, 18 year olds would blow up any 9th grader, regardless of skill assuming the 9th grader is aged to his grade (14 turning 15 sometime in the calendar year after Jan 1st of 9th grade) the physical development in those years is enormous and it really shows up when there are rare events when a 15 year old gets on the field with 17, 18 year olds...some UA tryouts, the USA U-19 tryouts, etc. I'd say unless you are a goalie or a lightening quick FOGO, the physicality of every other position just smokes the young ones out. A 9th grader making an impact on a varsity team is explained mostly by those teams / leagues being weak. On LI there have been so few like Nicky Galasso, and I don't see any 8th or 9th grader that was freakishly advanced as he was in the recent year or two.
To be a HS coach is becoming a nightmare now with all the Summer recruiting crap. We all know HS coaches who are in a dilemma where a 9th or 10th grader is committed to big name ACC or Big 10 U but the Junior or Senior at the same position who is not recruited or going D3 is just as skilled and probably physically much stronger and gives the team a slightly better chance to win. Will be interesting to see what he does.
Stop making it a nightmare story. Freshman play because they are better. Coaches know it. I would not be surprised to se a 7th grader play varsity sometime this year. Ok you say a weaker school if you know but div 1 non the less. I am sure the players will welcome it and some May question it but see what happens.
You play the best you have and if any players skill and size fits the need nothing better who cares grade. If they care grade they should get fired!!!! Safety should be the only concerned
The Utopia team always plays the best players, hard to get on that team. I think it is not as simple as best players play - I do think that HS coaches will be under pressure to play early commits - How does a HS coach explain to a D1 coach that the kids he just sold him on is not playing? or a HS coach might think, wow Lax U coach thinks this kid is great, he must be so I am going to play him and find out.
7th grader really, are you stupid.
He's not stupid, just biased. It's his 9th grader and rising 6th grader he has in mind after all.
The lax world has gone looney tunes. This generation of high school and youth laxers will have a high price to pay for all of the rush-to-commit mindset that has developed around the game.
Show me a 10th grader that knows where he wants to go to college (i.e. the right/best school for the Profession he chooses), and I will show you a liar.
Okay, maybe the rare kid (holdbacks?), who has academics locked down and has matured ahead of his time is ready to commit to a college in 10th grade.
8th & 9th grade commits? Rubbish.
Rubbish? Liar? Says the angry dad of a kid that has no chance of an early verbal
Angry? No, just realistic. By the way, we'll pass on the early verbal (8th/9th/10th) if/when it comes. Entering 11th grade, probably more realistic our kids will have a solid idea of what they would like to do in life and what their major focus should be. If they don't know that, how could they possibly know what college is the best fit?
It's not about lax, it's about education. None of these kids will play in high school or college if they don't make the grades. So why rush the process?
If a kid is "all that", and a standout talent, the offers will stay on the table. And if he is borderline, or middle of the pack (which is more likely for most kids), then he is better served by taking the time to learn what he wants and finding the best college to fit those goals.
D1 benches are full of early commits, and so are the transfer wires.
Perhaps "liar" was too harsh, misguided might be better suited. Still adds up to rubbish.
The best 17, 18 year olds would blow up any 9th grader, regardless of skill assuming the 9th grader is aged to his grade (14 turning 15 sometime in the calendar year after Jan 1st of 9th grade) the physical development in those years is enormous and it really shows up when there are rare events when a 15 year old gets on the field with 17, 18 year olds...some UA tryouts, the USA U-19 tryouts, etc. I'd say unless you are a goalie or a lightening quick FOGO, the physicality of every other position just smokes the young ones out. A 9th grader making an impact on a varsity team is explained mostly by those teams / leagues being weak. On LI there have been so few like Nicky Galasso, and I don't see any 8th or 9th grader that was freakishly advanced as he was in the recent year or two.
What are all of you talking about, we are talking about LI Lax. Where in Div 1 you have brentwood Longwood Copiague Flyod Pat Med Bayshore lindy. I am not talking the best, the best 17 18 year olds lax players don't play there. Sr's at those schools may not be better than their underclassmen. Is that so incomprehensible. Get a grip, in some towns like 'Pequa it may not happen but even the S'towns who draw a large pool you saw underclassmen have pivotal roles. HHH will also be a contender coming up because of those underclassmen they have.
Stop making that all teams have great players that is not the reality. Some of these teams do need to be augmented by the younger players. be it Fresh Soph. I do think come playoff time you will see a few MS's get some time in a blow out.
I think all of you paranoid Jr and Sr's have it all reversed. The reality isnt because the are committed they are playing HS over another student. They are committed in college because they are good and have already proven it. In many cases in an environment much tougher than your HS team circle. Embrace it you may be surprised how they can help your son.
BTW I will agree a child may not have a clue what they want or where they should go but why not take the opportunity given especially at a strong academic institution. Many of these schools these kids are committing to are great schools or destination schools that are cant misses. Only time will tell if it was a hit whether 14 or 17.
To be a HS coach is becoming a nightmare now with all the Summer recruiting crap. We all know HS coaches who are in a dilemma where a 9th or 10th grader is committed to big name ACC or Big 10 U but the Junior or Senior at the same position who is not recruited or going D3 is just as skilled and probably physically much stronger and gives the team a slightly better chance to win. Will be interesting to see what he does.
Stop making it a nightmare story. Freshman play because they are better. Coaches know it. I would not be surprised to se a 7th grader play varsity sometime this year. Ok you say a weaker school if you know but div 1 non the less. I am sure the players will welcome it and some May question it but see what happens.
You play the best you have and if any players skill and size fits the need nothing better who cares grade. If they care grade they should get fired!!!! Safety should be the only concerned
The Utopia team always plays the best players, hard to get on that team. I think it is not as simple as best players play - I do think that HS coaches will be under pressure to play early commits - How does a HS coach explain to a D1 coach that the kids he just sold him on is not playing? or a HS coach might think, wow Lax U coach thinks this kid is great, he must be so I am going to play him and find out.
I donot believe that the HS coach gets the 8/9th grader the early commit the travel coach does, therefore not much of a quid pro quo. The early commit is a good player. Something you seem to be minimalizing for some reason.
I am sure there are schools that don't need that early commit to play they have strength in numbers and there are those schools that need that early commit to play and be a leader. Why cant you understand not all schools are loaded.
What is the avg size of a HS Lacrosse team.
Are the parameters a function of interest in a particular school and limited on the max end by how may fit on a bus due to budget reasons.
Any more to it.
What is the avg size of a HS Lacrosse team.
Are the parameters a function of interest in a particular school and limited on the max end by how may fit on a bus due to budget reasons.
Any more to it.
Most of the better LI high school Varsity teams have at least 50 players on the team. In my town it is always at least that many and no more than about 15 play in the games unless it's a 12-15 point blow out and even then it must he the 4th quarter.
What is the avg size of a HS Lacrosse team.
Are the parameters a function of interest in a particular school and limited on the max end by how may fit on a bus due to budget reasons.
Any more to it.
They put as many kids on the team that they have uniforms.
7th grader really, are you stupid.
He's not stupid, just biased. It's his 9th grader and rising 6th grader he has in mind after all.
The lax world has gone looney tunes. This generation of high school and youth laxers will have a high price to pay for all of the rush-to-commit mindset that has developed around the game.
Show me a 10th grader that knows where he wants to go to college (i.e. the right/best school for the Profession he chooses), and I will show you a liar.
Okay, maybe the rare kid (holdbacks?), who has academics locked down and has matured ahead of his time is ready to commit to a college in 10th grade.
8th & 9th grade commits? Rubbish.
Rubbish? Liar? Says the angry dad of a kid that has no chance of an early verbal
Angry? No, just realistic. By the way, we'll pass on the early verbal (8th/9th/10th) if/when it comes. Entering 11th grade, probably more realistic our kids will have a solid idea of what they would like to do in life and what their major focus should be. If they don't know that, how could they possibly know what college is the best fit?
It's not about lax, it's about education. None of these kids will play in high school or college if they don't make the grades. So why rush the process?
If a kid is "all that", and a standout talent, the offers will stay on the table. And if he is borderline, or middle of the pack (which is more likely for most kids), then he is better served by taking the time to learn what he wants and finding the best college to fit those goals.
D1 benches are full of early commits, and so are the transfer wires.
Perhaps "liar" was too harsh, misguided might be better suited. Still adds up to rubbish.
I call "Rubbish" to your post!! You are not realistic, you are angry and jealous. If Duke, JH, ND, UPenn, Harvard were ringing your phone you wouldn't pick up? You would have your child pass on an early verbal commitment to one of the most prestigious schools in the country? Many of these young commits had 5, 6, 7 of these schools calling at the same time because they are that good. I think you are misguided and would be a terrible parent not to give your child that chance. You are narcissistic to believe that you, anonymous Back of the Cage Poster, are more intelligent or better equipped to how to handle that situation. You truly believe 11th grade (16/17) is the "Magic year" to KNOW what they would like to do or focus on? That is ridiculous!! Every child is different. Many of these families, in this situation, have put many hours traveling, visiting schools, speaking with their children, teachers, school counselors, coaches, worrying, deliberating. It was a huge decision and not taken lightly. You actually think you know better?
D1 benches are full of early commits, late commits and walk ons. Transfers happen all of the time, for many reasons.
No one (I know) is "misguided" during this process. The situation was presented and these families did their best to do right by their children and now it is up to their children to do their best to meet their end of the verbal commitment.
Good luck to all of them and "rubbish" to your "we'll pass on the early verbal"
7th grader really, are you stupid.
He's not stupid, just biased. It's his 9th grader and rising 6th grader he has in mind after all.
The lax world has gone looney tunes. This generation of high school and youth laxers will have a high price to pay for all of the rush-to-commit mindset that has developed around the game.
Show me a 10th grader that knows where he wants to go to college (i.e. the right/best school for the Profession he chooses), and I will show you a liar.
Okay, maybe the rare kid (holdbacks?), who has academics locked down and has matured ahead of his time is ready to commit to a college in 10th grade.
8th & 9th grade commits? Rubbish.
Rubbish? Liar? Says the angry dad of a kid that has no chance of an early verbal
Angry? No, just realistic. By the way, we'll pass on the early verbal (8th/9th/10th) if/when it comes. Entering 11th grade, probably more realistic our kids will have a solid idea of what they would like to do in life and what their major focus should be. If they don't know that, how could they possibly know what college is the best fit?
It's not about lax, it's about education. None of these kids will play in high school or college if they don't make the grades. So why rush the process?
If a kid is "all that", and a standout talent, the offers will stay on the table. And if he is borderline, or middle of the pack (which is more likely for most kids), then he is better served by taking the time to learn what he wants and finding the best college to fit those goals.
D1 benches are full of early commits, and so are the transfer wires.
Perhaps "liar" was too harsh, misguided might be better suited. Still adds up to rubbish.
I call "Rubbish" to your post!! You are not realistic, you are angry and jealous. If Duke, JH, ND, UPenn, Harvard were ringing your phone you wouldn't pick up? You would have your child pass on an early verbal commitment to one of the most prestigious schools in the country? Many of these young commits had 5, 6, 7 of these schools calling at the same time because they are that good. I think you are misguided and would be a terrible parent not to give your child that chance. You are narcissistic to believe that you, anonymous Back of the Cage Poster, are more intelligent or better equipped to how to handle that situation. You truly believe 11th grade (16/17) is the "Magic year" to KNOW what they would like to do or focus on? That is ridiculous!! Every child is different. Many of these families, in this situation, have put many hours traveling, visiting schools, speaking with their children, teachers, school counselors, coaches, worrying, deliberating. It was a huge decision and not taken lightly. You actually think you know better?
D1 benches are full of early commits, late commits and walk ons. Transfers happen all of the time, for many reasons. If
No one (I know) is "misguided" during this process. The situation was presented and these families did their best to do right by their children and now it is up to their children to do their best to meet their end of the verbal commitment.
Good luck to all of them and "rubbish" to your "we'll pass on the early verbal"
My child is a girl, but the situation remains the same. If Duke, JH, ND, UPenn, Harvard were ringing my phone,and it wasn't the right fit for my kid, I would defiantly say no, no matter how prestigious they are. To accept an offer from any of those schools,just on a prestige factor, shows just how misguided you are. A lot of factors go into choosing a school, cost, will they graduate in 4 years, is academics the #1 goal or is lacrosse. pressure from coaches teachers and parents. Do I think all 7th 8th 9th graders want to play for those schools, yes, because of the "i want to win factor" of early adolescence. I think 10th 11th and 12th graders start to see the work that is actually required to achieve these goals, and maybe the education becomes more important tan the winning, at least it should if the kid has a decent parent that isn't pushing them into something that they want, like the bragging rights of an early commit, rather than their future. who is really misguided Mr. Anonymous poster. If you think your club or High School coach really cares about your kid, than you shouldn't have kids. They only care about earl commit lists on web sites
The Manhasset Goalie and midfield are great examples. Both positions with sophomore commitments to top 10 D1s but with several Seniors at both positions that are not committed but excellent nonetheless and probably better pound for pound given their prior varsity experience and difference in physical maturity. Do they play the recruited young guns against upper class laden opponents or go toe-to-toe using their own upper classmen? Will be interesting to watch. My bet is they go with the young guns until they prove that they aren't varsity ready yet.
7th grader really, are you stupid.
He's not stupid, just biased. It's his 9th grader and rising 6th grader he has in mind after all.
The lax world has gone looney tunes. This generation of high school and youth laxers will have a high price to pay for all of the rush-to-commit mindset that has developed around the game.
Show me a 10th grader that knows where he wants to go to college (i.e. the right/best school for the Profession he chooses), and I will show you a liar.
Okay, maybe the rare kid (holdbacks?), who has academics locked down and has matured ahead of his time is ready to commit to a college in 10th grade.
8th & 9th grade commits? Rubbish.
Rubbish? Liar? Says the angry dad of a kid that has no chance of an early verbal
Angry? No, just realistic. By the way, we'll pass on the early verbal (8th/9th/10th) if/when it comes. Entering 11th grade, probably more realistic our kids will have a solid idea of what they would like to do in life and what their major focus should be. If they don't know that, how could they possibly know what college is the best fit?
It's not about lax, it's about education. None of these kids will play in high school or college if they don't make the grades. So why rush the process?
If a kid is "all that", and a standout talent, the offers will stay on the table. And if he is borderline, or middle of the pack (which is more likely for most kids), then he is better served by taking the time to learn what he wants and finding the best college to fit those goals.
D1 benches are full of early commits, and so are the transfer wires.
Perhaps "liar" was too harsh, misguided might be better suited. Still adds up to rubbish.
I call "Rubbish" to your post!! You are not realistic, you are angry and jealous. If Duke, JH, ND, UPenn, Harvard were ringing your phone you wouldn't pick up? You would have your child pass on an early verbal commitment to one of the most prestigious schools in the country? Many of these young commits had 5, 6, 7 of these schools calling at the same time because they are that good. I think you are misguided and would be a terrible parent not to give your child that chance. You are narcissistic to believe that you, anonymous Back of the Cage Poster, are more intelligent or better equipped to how to handle that situation. You truly believe 11th grade (16/17) is the "Magic year" to KNOW what they would like to do or focus on? That is ridiculous!! Every child is different. Many of these families, in this situation, have put many hours traveling, visiting schools, speaking with their children, teachers, school counselors, coaches, worrying, deliberating. It was a huge decision and not taken lightly. You actually think you know better?
D1 benches are full of early commits, late commits and walk ons. Transfers happen all of the time, for many reasons. If
No one (I know) is "misguided" during this process. The situation was presented and these families did their best to do right by their children and now it is up to their children to do their best to meet their end of the verbal commitment.
Good luck to all of them and "rubbish" to your "we'll pass on the early verbal"
My child is a girl, but the situation remains the same. If Duke, JH, ND, UPenn, Harvard were ringing my phone,and it wasn't the right fit for my kid, I would defiantly say no, no matter how prestigious they are. To accept an offer from any of those schools,just on a prestige factor, shows just how misguided you are. A lot of factors go into choosing a school, cost, will they graduate in 4 years, is academics the #1 goal or is lacrosse. pressure from coaches teachers and parents. Do I think all 7th 8th 9th graders want to play for those schools, yes, because of the "i want to win factor" of early adolescence. I think 10th 11th and 12th graders start to see the work that is actually required to achieve these goals, and maybe the education becomes more important tan the winning, at least it should if the kid has a decent parent that isn't pushing them into something that they want, like the bragging rights of an early commit, rather than their future. who is really misguided Mr. Anonymous poster. If you think your club or High School coach really cares about your kid, than you shouldn't have kids. They only care about earl commit lists on web sites
Ok... Now go back and read the previous post...no mention of winning being more important than the right fit for each child. There is a lot more to committing early than bragging rights and I'm sorry, as I tried to explain in the previous post, most parents going through that with their children do know that. I'm not misguided at all. We (like most others we know) did our due diligence. You are an angry person with a warped idea of what most of these kids are about.
you are very disturbed, how do you conclude that I am angry. Please seek help
The Manhasset Goalie and midfield are great examples. Both positions with sophomore commitments to top 10 D1s but with several Seniors at both positions that are not committed but excellent nonetheless and probably better pound for pound given their prior varsity experience and difference in physical maturity. Do they play the recruited young guns against upper class laden opponents or go toe-to-toe using their own upper classmen? Will be interesting to watch. My bet is they go with the young guns until they prove that they aren't varsity ready yet.
Now way the Goalie starts on Varsity. He may not even be on the varsity roster. He got the D1 commitment through connections and from his father having played at the same school not based on pure skill. He's good but not great and probably the third best goalie in the Manhasset program right now.
you are very disturbed, how do you conclude that I am angry. Please seek help
I'm with you. This guy/gal seems to call anyone with a differing opinion angry or jealous. The poster seems to be frothing at the mouth. Definitely needs help.
you are very disturbed, how do you conclude that I am angry. Please seek help
I'm with you. This guy/gal seems to call anyone with a differing opinion angry or jealous. The poster seems to be frothing at the mouth. Definitely needs help.
Sounds like an Obama defending Democrat. They do the se thing if anyone has an opinion different than them.
3rd best still the best goalie in B division. their biggest rival is going to have a very difficult time in the cage.
you are very disturbed, how do you conclude that I am angry. Please seek help
I'm with you. This guy/gal seems to call anyone with a differing opinion angry or jealous. The poster seems to be frothing at the mouth. Definitely needs help.
Sounds like an Obama defending Democrat. They do the se thing if anyone has an opinion different than them.
Yes - great point, some anonymous tool makes a stupid post and you do your best Sean Hannity and blame it on Obama - that Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim who has underhandedly ruined your life. Unless of course you are a white upper middle class lacrosse daddy whose stock portfolio continue to do quite well under Obama. The Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index stood at 156 percent higher at the close on Jan. 8 than it did the day Obama took office. Other stock indexes show similarly robust gains. The Dow Jones Industrial Average also has more than doubled, rising 125 percent during Obama’s tenure, and the NASDAQ Composite index is up 229 percent, more than tripling during the same period. Obama that [lacrosse] ruining lives at country clubs all across Long Islands Gold Coast........Thanks Obama, oh wait, Thank you Mr. President
Why is that everyone assumes every lacrosse daddy on Long Island is a privileged rich person? Plenty of blue collar dads I know out there with kids playing lacrosse. Cops, firemen, teachers, heck even construction workers....imagine that!
you are very disturbed, how do you conclude that I am angry. Please seek help
I'm with you. This guy/gal seems to call anyone with a differing opinion angry or jealous. The poster seems to be frothing at the mouth. Definitely needs help.
There seems to be a few contributors here. I am the contributor who reiterates that not all schools are the same 'Pequa has strength in numbers and a few of the Div 1 Suffolk schools (weak or strong) need their underclassmen.
I also tried to understand why someone would have a position that the best 17 & 18 year olds will beat a 9th grader (of course they would) the best 17 & 18 years old will beat the worst 17 & 18 year olds. Stating no team has all of the best 17 & 18 year olds on each team. Some only have 2/3 leaving 9 spots open (F/O and LSM = 12 not 10 players). I was also scoffed at my insinuation of a 7th grader playing.
I wrote why cant some understand this. I think I wrote that eloquently enough. I enjoyed the write up on Manhasset as those are issues many coaches wish they had. I suspect the only way you can answer questions of who will play is through practice.
Practice, that is where the rubber meets the road. You never know how someone will play until you get them all out there. Again injury and time may also help others rise to the top throughout the season.
In my experience the players old and young all know each other a good coach makes it work.
you are very disturbed, how do you conclude that I am angry. Please seek help
I'm with you. This guy/gal seems to call anyone with a differing opinion angry or jealous. The poster seems to be frothing at the mouth. Definitely needs help.
Sounds like an Obama defending Democrat. They do the se thing if anyone has an opinion different than them.
Yes - great point, some anonymous tool makes a stupid post and you do your best Sean Hannity and blame it on Obama - that Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim who has underhandedly ruined your life. Unless of course you are a white upper middle class lacrosse daddy whose stock portfolio continue to do quite well under Obama. The Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index stood at 156 percent higher at the close on Jan. 8 than it did the day Obama took office. Other stock indexes show similarly robust gains. The Dow Jones Industrial Average also has more than doubled, rising 125 percent during Obama’s tenure, and the NASDAQ Composite index is up 229 percent, more than tripling during the same period. Obama that [lacrosse] ruining lives at country clubs all across Long Islands Gold Coast........Thanks Obama, oh wait, Thank you Mr. President
I'm an electrician, please before you go postal either at your financial firm or on the sidelines, seek a good shrink and get on some meds
you are very disturbed, how do you conclude that I am angry. Please seek help
I'm with you. This guy/gal seems to call anyone with a differing opinion angry or jealous. The poster seems to be frothing at the mouth. Definitely needs help.
Sounds like an Obama defending Democrat. They do the se thing if anyone has an opinion different than them.
Yes - great point, some anonymous tool makes a stupid post and you do your best Sean Hannity and blame it on Obama - that Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim who has underhandedly ruined your life. Unless of course you are a white upper middle class lacrosse daddy whose stock portfolio continue to do quite well under Obama. The Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index stood at 156 percent higher at the close on Jan. 8 than it did the day Obama took office. Other stock indexes show similarly robust gains. The Dow Jones Industrial Average also has more than doubled, rising 125 percent during Obama’s tenure, and the NASDAQ Composite index is up 229 percent, more than tripling during the same period. Obama that [lacrosse] ruining lives at country clubs all across Long Islands Gold Coast........Thanks Obama, oh wait, Thank you Mr. President
I'm an electrician, please before you go postal either at your financial firm or on the sidelines, seek a good shrink and get on some meds
Amen brother....
Why is that everyone assumes every lacrosse daddy on Long Island is a privileged rich person? Plenty of blue collar dads I know out there with kids playing lacrosse. Cops, firemen, teachers, heck even construction workers....imagine that!
Cops and Teachers are some of the highest paid people on Long Island! Them and the immigrants are the only people that will still be able to stay here in a few more years.
no politics, no socioeconomic statements just HS lacrosse. I do not want to be radical or say anything that might offend anybody but I do not think Oyster Bay can win the states this year
Why is that everyone assumes every lacrosse daddy on Long Island is a privileged rich person? Plenty of blue collar dads I know out there with kids playing lacrosse. Cops, firemen, teachers, heck even construction workers....imagine that!
Cops and Teachers are some of the highest paid people on Long Island! Them and the immigrants are the only people that will still be able to stay here in a few more years.
not to mention they are the ones who can generally attend and make the practices.
you are very disturbed, how do you conclude that I am angry. Please seek help
I'm with you. This guy/gal seems to call anyone with a differing opinion angry or jealous. The poster seems to be frothing at the mouth. Definitely needs help.
Sounds like an Obama defending Democrat. They do the se thing if anyone has an opinion different than them.
Yes - great point, some anonymous tool makes a stupid post and you do your best Sean Hannity and blame it on Obama - that Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim who has underhandedly ruined your life. Unless of course you are a white upper middle class lacrosse daddy whose stock portfolio continue to do quite well under Obama. The Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index stood at 156 percent higher at the close on Jan. 8 than it did the day Obama took office. Other stock indexes show similarly robust gains. The Dow Jones Industrial Average also has more than doubled, rising 125 percent during Obama’s tenure, and the NASDAQ Composite index is up 229 percent, more than tripling during the same period. Obama that [lacrosse] ruining lives at country clubs all across Long Islands Gold Coast........Thanks Obama, oh wait, Thank you Mr. President
Defend Obama somewhere else. You and your two friends with Obama/Biden stickers on your cars can go to Mexico and have a party. Or go play golf with our disgraced President while ISIS is killing Christians.
you are very disturbed, how do you conclude that I am angry. Please seek help
I'm with you. This guy/gal seems to call anyone with a differing opinion angry or jealous. The poster seems to be frothing at the mouth. Definitely needs help.
Sounds like an Obama defending Democrat. They do the se thing if anyone has an opinion different than them.
Yes - great point, some anonymous tool makes a stupid post and you do your best Sean Hannity and blame it on Obama - that Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim who has underhandedly ruined your life. Unless of course you are a white upper middle class lacrosse daddy whose stock portfolio continue to do quite well under Obama. The Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index stood at 156 percent higher at the close on Jan. 8 than it did the day Obama took office. Other stock indexes show similarly robust gains. The Dow Jones Industrial Average also has more than doubled, rising 125 percent during Obama’s tenure, and the NASDAQ Composite index is up 229 percent, more than tripling during the same period. Obama that [lacrosse] ruining lives at country clubs all across Long Islands Gold Coast........Thanks Obama, oh wait, Thank you Mr. President
Defend Obama somewhere else. You and your two friends with Obama/Biden stickers on your cars can go to Mexico and have a party. Or go play golf with our disgraced President while ISIS is killing Christians.
Hey Hop, are you the wise all knowing moderator or just another nut in the crowd? If you want to say no political discussion at all, then that works for me, but the continuation of this and letting us all know your opinion just doesn't seem to be right from the person doing this job.
Nut in the crowd? No. Just a voice of reason. You post and I'll approve or not. Sound good?
first date to scrimmage in Sect XI is a month away 3/18. Lets bring it back to field play and productive conversation about who will or wont do what.
Is there a team out there that is loaded with Sophmores? We talked about Freshman. But with the Turtles and the 2017 class they were a strong bunch what school has the best of the crop that will shine on their teams
Nut in the crowd? No. Just a voice of reason. You post and I'll approve or not. Sound good?
Actually it doesn't sound good. But it's your board. I'm out.
I know it's hard to imagine but we are less than two weeks from the start of the season. Orange balls I guess until the snow melts. Crazy!!
first date to scrimmage in Sect XI is a month away 3/18. Lets bring it back to field play and productive conversation about who will or wont do what.
Is there a team out there that is loaded with Sophmores? We talked about Freshman. But with the Turtles and the 2017 class they were a strong bunch what school has the best of the crop that will shine on their teams
Turtles or 2018's 2017's, 2016's, or 2015's who cares. If the player is good then they will play. If not, then they won't.
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get a life....
very ed grimly about how exciting it is that they can play in 2 weeks.
calm down ....you are a bit hysterical.
first date to scrimmage in Sect XI is a month away 3/18. Lets bring it back to field play and productive conversation about who will or wont do what.
Is there a team out there that is loaded with Sophmores? We talked about Freshman. But with the Turtles and the 2017 class they were a strong bunch what school has the best of the crop that will shine on their teams
Sec VIII starts about a week earlier (crazy) 3/14 first game Herricks v Hempstead and first big match up is 3/17 Syo v GC and then 3/18 CSH v Manhasset
I know it's hard to imagine but we are less than two weeks from the start of the season. Orange balls I guess until the snow melts. Crazy!!
45 degrees and rain on Sunday. That will get rid of a lot of the snow/ice.
I know it's hard to imagine but we are less than two weeks from the start of the season. Orange balls I guess until the snow melts. Crazy!!
45 degrees and rain on Sunday. That will get rid of a lot of the snow/ice.
yeha but the treand has been Tuesday snow and there is more precipitation called for Tuesday. lets just hope it is more rain to help wash away the remaining snow
play in the corners - it's 90 degrees there.
play in the corners - it's 90 degrees there.
BOOOOO!!!
Two publics, Pequa 12, SE 13, ranked above Chaminade 17, and st. Anthonys 20 in the national hs team ranking by USA today released today. 1st 11 schools all private.
Not so much LI love in the "National" rankings. But then again...done by Casey Vock of 3d...http://usatodayhss.com/2015/super-25-preseason-boys-lacrosse-rankings#sthash.MEmGdOtQ.uxfs
play in the corners - it's 90 degrees there.
BOOOOO!!!
Math humor? Way over the heads of many readers here.
NOT IF THEY WENT TO CHAMINADE.
yo ...its science beeeaaatch!!!
yo ...its science beeeaaatch!!!
That was a great (math/science) joke - then an even better comeback on the observation.
For those newbies who have not seen a game at Chaminade they cheaped out when they did the field and have to lay mats out on the track for the four corners of the playing field.
Hence there are no 4 corners at Chaminade. and cannot be as hot as 90*
Well played!
yo ...its science beeeaaatch!!!
No...it Geometry, dolt!
yo ...its science beeeaaatch!!!
No...it Geometry, dolt!
Great grammar, dunce!
You do know that math is a science don't you?
hahaha....awesome....this Rhodes scholar tried to correct a superb cultural reference (BB) with an incorrect observation that its math not science....classic...... yeah a dolt huh?
hahaha....awesome....this Rhodes scholar tried to correct a superb cultural reference (BB) with an incorrect observation that its math not science....classic...... yeah a dolt huh?
Are you a [lacrosse]? First the Ed Grimly comment. Then the beeeaaaach comment. Now the dolt comment.
This poster is a complete fool.
Two publics, Pequa 12, SE 13, ranked above Chaminade 17, and st. Anthonys 20 in the national hs team ranking by USA today released today. 1st 11 schools all private.
What happened to the LI privates ranked below public, interesting!
Surprised that the Owl's were not ranked by USA Today - they have the best cover d-man on LI and some offensive players back.......
Two publics, Pequa 12, SE 13, ranked above Chaminade 17, and st. Anthonys 20 in the national hs team ranking by USA today released today. 1st 11 schools all private.
What happened to the LI privates ranked below public, interesting!
Massapequa lost their entire starting defense, goalie and their best overall player at midfield. They will have to win high scoring games against Syosset in Nassau A.
With club lacrosse and all the show cases around, the best kids from non big time public lax programs have no need to go catholic.Chaminade is the only school worth the money.St Anthony's run is over in lax.
Keep repeating that to yourself and at some point you will believe it. Chaminade and St A along with the other Catholics provide a better environment to succeed in school. Keep your baggy a$$ pants and simple class subjects in public school.
FYI , my kid will be graduating a semester early from top school, because of all the public school BS classes, lol.
"Keep repeating that to yourself and at some point you will believe it. Chaminade and St A along with the other Catholics provide a better environment to succeed in school. Keep your baggy a$$ pants and simple class subjects in public school."
Obviously you didn't take the time to investigate what your local public high school offers - or you live in a town that doesn't have a sufficient tax base to support a strong public academic program.
I had sons in both environments so am able to compare. For u, the difference between Chaminade or other catholic schools is mostly cultural. The academics in the honors/AP classes at the public high school rival, and in most cases (AP) surpass what Chaminade offers. On the other hand, the lack of freedom to be an individual and the very strong alumni base at Chaminade far surpasses that of our local HS.
Did my son who went to the public HS, where baggy pants - no. But he did like the option of jeans and sweat pants. More importantly, he liked and took advantage of 8 AP classes, something he couldn't get at Chaminade - they don't offer any. Is the lax program better at Chaminade than what we have locally - no question, not even a debate. But for him, the strong academic offerings at the public school won over when deciding between the two schools. And, he did great with public HS and club lax and is now happy playing in college and getting an excellent education at a great academic institution.
To each his own, just know your kid and do your research.
Two publics, Pequa 12, SE 13, ranked above Chaminade 17, and st. Anthonys 20 in the national hs team ranking by USA today released today. 1st 11 schools all private.
What happened to the LI privates ranked below public, interesting!
Massapequa lost their entire starting defense, goalie and their best overall player at midfield. They will have to win high scoring games against Syosset in Nassau A.
I think Massapequa will be very good this year but not the best public school in the country or Long Island or even Nassau County (Lynbrook) so I think the list is kind of silly, they lost 118 goals and 96 assists to graduation from three players Kirby, Byrnes and Berge - that is a lot to make up and then add in new goalie and no returning starting defense and they have some work to do and they might get it done but to rank them as the best public school in the country is a little silly
With club lacrosse and all the show cases around, the best kids from non big time public lax programs have no need to go catholic.Chaminade is the only school worth the money.St Anthony's run is over in lax.
I think this message is a bit misguided. A run can start and stop at any time. For example, the classes of 2020 crush and 2021 igloo could very well decide to attend St A's and continue their rise in the . It is all to premature to declare a run over.
Run over...you can't be serious. Last year's St. Anthony's JV team beat
Chaminade, Delbarton, Haverford, Yorktown and Wilton.
Wow you sound like your kid just graduated and your worried that Mass could repeat without your little Timmy. Very sad,
Where's the tough guy with the wise [lacrosse] posts? Been pretty quiet. Cold in queens?
The Manhasset Goalie and midfield are great examples. Both positions with sophomore commitments to top 10 D1s but with several Seniors at both positions that are not committed but excellent nonetheless and probably better pound for pound given their prior varsity experience and difference in physical maturity. Do they play the recruited young guns against upper class laden opponents or go toe-to-toe using their own upper classmen? Will be interesting to watch. My bet is they go with the young guns until they prove that they aren't varsity ready yet.
Now way the Goalie starts on Varsity. He may not even be on the varsity roster. He got the D1 commitment through connections and from his father having played at the same school not based on pure skill. He's good but not great and probably the third best goalie in the Manhasset program right now.
A little bird says you may be surprised.
The Manhasset Goalie and midfield are great examples. Both positions with sophomore commitments to top 10 D1s but with several Seniors at both positions that are not committed but excellent nonetheless and probably better pound for pound given their prior varsity experience and difference in physical maturity. Do they play the recruited young guns against upper class laden opponents or go toe-to-toe using their own upper classmen? Will be interesting to watch. My bet is they go with the young guns until they prove that they aren't varsity ready yet.
Now way the Goalie starts on Varsity. He may not even be on the varsity roster. He got the D1 commitment through connections and from his father having played at the same school not based on pure skill. He's good but not great and probably the third best goalie in the Manhasset program right now.
A little bird says you may be surprised.
You obviously can't see the forest for the trees or have absolutely no idea what the goalie situation is there.
Interesting that USA today has Massapequa #12 in the Nation as well as the top rated public school in the nation, Joe Lombardi's Lax lessons does not have them in the top 25 in the metro area. IMHO Lynbrook is the top team in Nassau county.
USA Today national rankings
12 Massapequa
13 Smithtown East
17 Chaminade
18 Ward Melville
20 St Anthony's
22 Garden City
Lax Lessons tri-state rankings
1 Smithtown East
6 Chaminade
8 Garden City
11 Ward Melville
12 St Anthony's
19 Sachem North
20 Rocky Point
22 Lynbrook
23 HHH West
25 Syosset
Two publics, Pequa 12, SE 13, ranked above Chaminade 17, and st. Anthonys 20 in the national hs team ranking by USA today released today. 1st 11 schools all private.
What happened to the LI privates ranked below public, interesting!
Chaminade is playing Massapequa on 3/25 so maybe hold your gloating until you see who wins the game.
Two publics, Pequa 12, SE 13, ranked above Chaminade 17, and st. Anthonys 20 in the national hs team ranking by USA today released today. 1st 11 schools all private.
What happened to the LI privates ranked below public, interesting!
Chaminade is playing Massapequa on 3/25 so maybe hold your gloating until you see who wins the game.
Massapequa players all have great credentials, right down to their 2019 8th grade team.
Solid players, willing to work hard and challenge themselves daily both in the classroom and on the field.
It is going to be a great season, in spite of the weather.
Massapequa players all have great credentials, right down to their 2019 8th grade team.
Solid players, willing to work hard and challenge themselves daily both in the classroom and on the field.
It is going to be a great season, in spite of the weather.
This should give Massapequa a huge advantage over all those towns with weak 8th grade teams, players that don't work hard and do not challenge themselves in the classroom or on the field......
Two publics, Pequa 12, SE 13, ranked above Chaminade 17, and st. Anthonys 20 in the national hs team ranking by USA today released today. 1st 11 schools all private.
What happened to the LI privates ranked below public, interesting!
Chaminade is playing Massapequa on 3/25 so maybe hold your gloating until you see who wins the game.
I am looking forward to the Smithtown East HHH West game 3/27. Could be a great indication for both teams
Interesting that USA today has Massapequa #12 in the Nation as well as the top rated public school in the nation, Joe Lombardi's Lax lessons does not have them in the top 25 in the metro area. IMHO Lynbrook is the top team in Nassau county.
USA Today national rankings
12 Massapequa
13 Smithtown East
17 Chaminade
18 Ward Melville
20 St Anthony's
22 Garden City
Lax Lessons tri-state rankings
1 Smithtown East
6 Chaminade
8 Garden City
11 Ward Melville
12 St Anthony's
19 Sachem North
20 Rocky Point
22 Lynbrook
23 HHH West
25 Syosset
Mr Anonymous Suffolk Ranking Div 1 & 2.
Smithtown East 1
Smithtown West 2
Ward Melville 3
Sachem North 4
West Islip 5
HH Hills West 6
HH Hills East 7
Northport 8
Sachem East 9
Walt Whitman 10
East Islip 11
Bay Shore 12
Connetquot 13
Massapequa players all have great credentials, right down to their 2019 8th grade team.
Solid players, willing to work hard and challenge themselves daily both in the classroom and on the field.
It is going to be a great season, in spite of the weather.
This should give Massapequa a huge advantage over all those towns with weak 8th grade teams, players that don't work hard and do not challenge themselves in the classroom or on the field......
This is a Varsity spot give those boys time to enjoy 8th grade.
That said, you would be foolish not to know how strong the 'Pequa 2019 team is. Along with them are Garden City, Syosset, Ward Melville, Smithtown, West Islip, HHH and Bay Shore.
Those boys moving up to High school next year have Long Island lacrosse staying as a powerhouse. Just given them their time.
Stay off the big boy site, no one cares about 8th graders.
Don't hate. Obviously parenting in Pequa is far superior to other towns. No where else are kids challenged to work hard in the class room and on the field. In the words of Hans and Frans Pequa, "you are a bunch of flabby losers".
Stay off the big boy site, no one cares about 8th graders.
You may not care now, but those teams with talented 2017's playing varsity, they care and know who is coming up to help behind them.
Don't hate. Obviously parenting in Pequa is far superior to other towns. No where else are kids challenged to work hard in the class room and on the field. In the words of Hans and Frans Pequa, "you are a bunch of flabby losers".
You are not a nice person.
Don't hate. Obviously parenting in Pequa is far superior to other towns. No where else are kids challenged to work hard in the class room and on the field. In the words of Hans and Frans Pequa, "you are a bunch of flabby losers".
You are obviously a very disgruntled parent who is living in a depressed school district
or
You are a frustrated former HS lax player who could not keep up and now your son is on a team who cannot keep up
or
You are just an jerk.
Whatever the case may be, you are certainly challenged. The point the original poster was making was that Massapequa was looking forward to the upcoming game against Chaminade. The Massapequa players are just as focused as the Chaminade players, on and off the field. In fact, Massapequa has great players coming up in the ranks, ready to support the Varsity players. Many of the 2019's are siblings to the MHS Varsity players as well as siblings of the Chaminade players.
It is in the blood.
Get ready.
That is funny, I was told all the good Massapequa 8th graders are going to Catholic school.
That is funny, I was told all the good Massapequa 8th graders are going to Catholic school.
No secret that a lot of Pequa kids go to Catholics in the past. I think the poster is promoting the Junior High boys. He must have one. They are good players. Same as a few other towns. Several quality players scattered amongst several club teams. Where is the big deal ?
That is what they said when 5 Massapequa kids left for Catholic schools a few years back,class of 2014. Then Massapequa wins the state tournament in 2014. It must be a good sign. FYI, the people saying the better kids are leaving for Catholic schools are the parents of the players leaving.
Chaminade players all have great credentials, right down to the Massapequa 2019 8th grade team whose best players will be going to Chaminade next year.
Solid players, willing to work hard and challenge themselves daily in the classroom, in church and on the field.
It is going to be a great season, in spite of the weather.
Interesting that USA today has Massapequa #12 in the Nation as well as the top rated public school in the nation, Joe Lombardi's Lax lessons does not have them in the top 25 in the metro area. IMHO Lynbrook is the top team in Nassau county.
USA Today national rankings
12 Massapequa
13 Smithtown East
17 Chaminade
18 Ward Melville
20 St Anthony's
22 Garden City
Lax Lessons tri-state rankings
1 Smithtown East
6 Chaminade
8 Garden City
11 Ward Melville
12 St Anthony's
19 Sachem North
20 Rocky Point
22 Lynbrook
23 HHH West
25 Syosset
Mr Anonymous Suffolk Ranking Div 1 & 2.
Smithtown East 1
Smithtown West 2
Ward Melville 3
Sachem North 4
West Islip 5
HH Hills West 6
HH Hills East 7
Northport 8
Sachem East 9
Walt Whitman 10
East Islip 11
Bay Shore 12
Connetquot 13
League 1 (A) League 2 (A)
Ward Melville 1 Smithtown East 1
Sachem North 2 Smithtown West 2
Northport 3 West Islip 3
Sachem East 4 HH Hills West 4
Bay Shore 5 HH Hills East 5
Connetquot 6 Walt Whitman 6
Commack 7 East Islip 7
Lindenhurst 8 West Babylon 8
Middle Country 9 Riverhead 9
Patchogue-Medford10 Deer Park 10
William Floyd 11 Bellport 11
Longwood 12 North Babylon 12
Brentwood 13 Copiague 13
Can anyone give some valuable insight to the bottom half of the leagues. I figure 2-4 could be a crap shoot with any of those teams taking a different spot. Just as 5-8 could have movement. but does anyone think the bottom 1/4 as detailed should be moved up.
Can anyone give some insight to these teams.
League 1 (A) League 2 (A)
PatchogueMedford10 Deer Park 10
William Floyd 11 Bellport 11
Longwood 12 North Babylon 12
Brentwood 13 Copiague 13
Is it me, the younger parents can't wait to be in the spot light, lol.
That is funny, I was told all the good Massapequa 8th graders are going to Catholic school.
No secret that a lot of Pequa kids go to Catholics in the past. I think the poster is promoting the Junior High boys. He must have one. They are good players. Same as a few other towns. Several quality players scattered amongst several club teams. Where is the big deal ?
Chaminade players all have great credentials, right down to the Massapequa 2019 8th grade team whose best players will be going to Chaminade next year.
Solid players, willing to work hard and challenge themselves daily in the classroom, in church and on the field.
It is going to be a great season, in spite of the weather.
The top talent on the Muddogs 2019 will NOT BE ATTENDING CHAMINADE in September 2015.
FYI......Pequa 2019's have some lax players going to Chaminade. Are any of them considered to be the best players? NO!
The best 2019 Muddogs are NOT attending Chaminade in September.
Look at he roster of 2019 Muddogs:
Of the boys attending 8th grade at Catholic schools now, the best have turned down Chaminade.
Of the Berner 8th graders who play on Muddogs, the best players have also turned down Chaminade.
Bottom line is MHS has talent and they have the players ready to rise through the ranks over the next 2-3 years to remain a powerhouse.
It is a fact that the varsity players have younger brothers who are just as talented. In fact, some of the varisty Chaminade players have younger brothers who have opted to stay in Pequa.
Looking forward to ALL of the teams playing. Our Strong Island players are very talented. The best part is, holdbacks are not an issue here and ALL of our boys are good kids.
Wishing all of the players a healthy season!
Is it me, the younger parents can't wait to be in the spot light, lol.
They should be carefull what they wish for. Many sad faces on the sideline when junior doesn't see the field till 11th grade
interesting note. the starting goalie for pequa and the starting goalie for chaminade both pequa kids. I guess pequa didn't suffer too badly...won first state title. belies the contention that Top players all opt for chamninade
Is it me, the younger parents can't wait to be in the spot light, lol.
They should be carefull what they wish for. Many sad faces on the sideline when junior doesn't see the field till 11th grade
Are you even reading the posts????
No one is suggesting younger players be brought up. Happy to have the middle school, JVA's, B's out there working and playing the game.
It sounds to me that 'Pequa is looking forward the season beginning. Happy to match up with the best and compete.
As I am sure, all of the schools are.
Good bye to Old Man Winter.
Lax Bros are ready to take the field.
interesting note. the starting goalie for pequa and the starting goalie for chaminade both pequa kids. I guess pequa didn't suffer too badly...won first state title. belies the contention that Top players all opt for chamninade
Pequa has a history of tremendous goalies dating back to Draper. Doc Schneider-UMASS, his younger brother Eric was named Academic All American now captain of Hopkins, then Russo, Valdini was phenomenal in goal last season and the current senior keeper (injured) is signed. MHS has talent in the cage down to the MS all working and all proud to be Chiefs.
where did Valdini end up? he had a fantastic senior year in the cage
interesting note. the starting goalie for pequa and the starting goalie for chaminade both pequa kids. I guess pequa didn't suffer too badly...won first state title. belies the contention that Top players all opt for chamninade
Pequa has a history of tremendous goalies dating back to Draper. Doc Schneider-UMASS, his younger brother Eric was named Academic All American now captain of Hopkins, then Russo, Valdini was phenomenal in goal last season and the current senior keeper (injured) is signed. MHS has talent in the cage down to the MS all working and all proud to be Chiefs.
So who will between the pipes this year?
Nike/LM Preseason High School Boys' Top 25
1. Gonzaga (D.C.)
2. Culver (Ind.)
3. Haverford School (Pa.)
4. St. Paul’s (Md.)
5. Darien (Conn.)
6. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
7. Boys’ Latin (Md.)
8. Chaminade (N.Y.)
9. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)
10. Landon (Md.)
11. Delbarton (N.J.)
12. Massapequa (N.Y.)
13. Greenwich (Conn.)
14. Paul VI (Va.)
15. McDonogh (Md.)
16. Bergen Catholic (N.J.)
17. Gilman (Md.)
18. Yorktown (N.Y.)
19. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
20. Cazenovia (N.Y.)
21. Lake Highland (Fla.)
22. Bronxville (N.Y.)
23. Ridgefield (Conn.)
24. Victor (N.Y.)
25. Foothill-Santa Ana (Calif.)
Nike/LM Preseason High School Boys' Top 25
1. Gonzaga (D.C.)
2. Culver (Ind.)
3. Haverford School (Pa.)
4. St. Paul’s (Md.)
5. Darien (Conn.)
6. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
7. Boys’ Latin (Md.)
8. Chaminade (N.Y.)
9. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)
10. Landon (Md.)
11. Delbarton (N.J.)
12. Massapequa (N.Y.)
13. Greenwich (Conn.)
14. Paul VI (Va.)
15. McDonogh (Md.)
16. Bergen Catholic (N.J.)
17. Gilman (Md.)
18. Yorktown (N.Y.)
19. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
20. Cazenovia (N.Y.)
21. Lake Highland (Fla.)
22. Bronxville (N.Y.)
23. Ridgefield (Conn.)
24. Victor (N.Y.)
25. Foothill-Santa Ana (Calif.)
Bottom line is MHS has talent and they have the players ready to rise through the ranks over the next 2-3 years to remain a powerhouse.
Dear Mr. Pequa - please tone it down a notch, It took Ward Melville, Garden City and Manhasset over 50 years of "Powerhouse" lacrosse for everybody to hate them, Massapequa has had an OK run the last 10 to 15 years and
you act as if you are "the Inventors" you are an OK team in an a weak conference, get over yourselves
That's only for football. For lax, the only field they care about, no corners cut.
Nike/LM Preseason High School Boys' Top 25
1. Gonzaga (D.C.)
2. Culver (Ind.)
3. Haverford School (Pa.)
4. St. Paul’s (Md.)
5. Darien (Conn.)
6. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
7. Boys’ Latin (Md.)
8. Chaminade (N.Y.)
9. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)
10. Landon (Md.)
11. Delbarton (N.J.)
12. Massapequa (N.Y.)
13. Greenwich (Conn.)
14. Paul VI (Va.)
15. McDonogh (Md.)
16. Bergen Catholic (N.J.)
17. Gilman (Md.)
18. Yorktown (N.Y.)
19. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
20. Cazenovia (N.Y.)
21. Lake Highland (Fla.)
22. Bronxville (N.Y.)
23. Ridgefield (Conn.)
24. Victor (N.Y.)
25. Foothill-Santa Ana (Calif.)
Silly list - IMHO I would have Smithtown East - Lynbrrok and Ward Melville all on that list over Massapequa unless this is a 2019 poll -
interesting note. the starting goalie for pequa and the starting goalie for chaminade both pequa kids. I guess pequa didn't suffer too badly...won first state title. belies the contention that Top players all opt for chamninade
Pequa has a history of tremendous goalies dating back to Draper. Doc Schneider-UMASS, his younger brother Eric was named Academic All American now captain of Hopkins, then Russo, Valdini was phenomenal in goal last season and the current senior keeper (injured) is signed. MHS has talent in the cage down to the MS all working and all proud to be Chiefs.
So who will between the pipes this year?
Isnt there a 2019 holdback Goalie going to Chaminade from 'pequa
I believe that there are 2 2018 goalies from Massapequa headed to Chaminade. One is there this year as a true 2018 and the other is repeating and will be a 2019.
interesting note. the starting goalie for pequa and the starting goalie for chaminade both pequa kids. I guess pequa didn't suffer too badly...won first state title. belies the contention that Top players all opt for chamninade
Pequa has a history of tremendous goalies dating back to Draper. Doc Schneider-UMASS, his younger brother Eric was named Academic All American now captain of Hopkins, then Russo, Valdini was phenomenal in goal last season and the current senior keeper (injured) is signed. MHS has talent in the cage down to the MS all working and all proud to be Chiefs.
So who will between the pipes this year?
Isnt there a 2019 holdback Goalie going to Chaminade from 'pequa
That is the question. They may have to pull up a keeper.
Get off the topic of these two goalies. Move on.
Nike/LM Preseason High School Boys' Top 25
1. Gonzaga (D.C.)
2. Culver (Ind.)
3. Haverford School (Pa.)
4. St. Paul’s (Md.)
5. Darien (Conn.)
6. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
7. Boys’ Latin (Md.)
8. Chaminade (N.Y.)
9. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)
10. Landon (Md.)
11. Delbarton (N.J.)
12. Massapequa (N.Y.)
13. Greenwich (Conn.)
14. Paul VI (Va.)
15. McDonogh (Md.)
16. Bergen Catholic (N.J.)
17. Gilman (Md.)
18. Yorktown (N.Y.)
19. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
20. Cazenovia (N.Y.)
21. Lake Highland (Fla.)
22. Bronxville (N.Y.)
23. Ridgefield (Conn.)
24. Victor (N.Y.)
25. Foothill-Santa Ana (Calif.)
Silly list - IMHO I would have Smithtown East - Lynbrrok and Ward Melville all on that list over Massapequa unless this is a 2019 poll -
I would also put Roslyn and Great Neck on the top list as well.
Bottom line is MHS has talent and they have the players ready to rise through the ranks over the next 2-3 years to remain a powerhouse.
Dear Mr. Pequa - please tone it down a notch, It took Ward Melville, Garden City and Manhasset over 50 years of "Powerhouse" lacrosse for everybody to hate them, Massapequa has had an OK run the last 10 to 15 years and
you act as if you are "the Inventors" you are an OK team in an a weak conference, get over yourselves
Mr. I thought I moved to a good school district but realized now that my son is trying to play lacrosse, I did not:
All I said was MHS has talent and that there is talent coming up. Powerhouse is used because:
#1-STATE CHAMPS, not by luck, so do not even go there
#2-The boys who can really play the game of lacrosse in Massapequa are on the top club teams, especially the younger players. However, it takes all levels of our talent working together which makes us a powerhouse. We love all of our players, the great and mighty, the meeker and bold. They all really work hard and really work well together.
So yes, Powerhouse is what 'Pequa is now and what we will strive to remain.
We are now dimming the lights on GC, Manhasset, WM.
Looking forward to the season beginning soon. Wishing all of our competitors well.
Bottom line is MHS has talent and they have the players ready to rise through the ranks over the next 2-3 years to remain a powerhouse.
Dear Mr. Pequa - please tone it down a notch, It took Ward Melville, Garden City and Manhasset over 50 years of "Powerhouse" lacrosse for everybody to hate them, Massapequa has had an OK run the last 10 to 15 years and
you act as if you are "the Inventors" you are an OK team in an a weak conference, get over yourselves
Sad that some people cannot be happy for another HS.
There is nothing to "get over ourselves" for.
Obviously, you have not been reading the posts.
MHS parents are proud of our players, at all levels.
We are sure happy to have JV and MS players primed and ready to play for their perspective teams and even happier to know they are really great lacrosse players, on top tier club teams, who are training to be the best Varsity players for MHS no matter when they are called upon.
Nothing was said in bad taste about another HS team.
Players were not singled out.
No where, in these the last few pages, has the tone been anything but upbeat and pleasant about facing competition in the 2015 season.
Looking forward to it. Wishing everyone well.
So, you, Mr. Coulda Shoulda Woulda get over yourself.
how does pequa stack up historically in the conference they are in? Are they considered the best program? Titles ect.?
Farmingdale by a wide margin has the best history in Nassau class A.
how does pequa stack up historically in the conference they are in? Are they considered the best program? Titles ect.?
The best program has traditionally been Farmingdale - not even close. But since they won the state title in 2011 the program has been mediocre for whatever reason. Just look at the history - Massapequa is good, Syosset ok.
Farmingdales youth teams are very poorly ran and fractured at best. Good talent but none of them play for F'dale anymore and it shows in the MS HS levels.
Can we please start a middle school thread for all this nonsense?
Can we please start a middle school thread for all this nonsense?
Yes you can. Simply register and create a thread of your choice.
Pequa and Farmingdale middle has a total of 18 d1 comitts. Clearmy better players
The Under Armour/IL National Power Rankings out today
1. Culver Academy Prep (Ind.)
2. Haverford School (Pa.)
3. McDonogh (Md.)
4. Gonzaga (D.C.)
5. Boys’ Latin (Md.)
6. Massapequa (N.Y.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
9. Chaminade (N.Y.)
10. Hill Academy (Ont.)
11. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
12. Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Darien (Conn.)
14. St. Paul’s (Md.)
15. Landon (Md.)
16. Delbarton (N.J.)
17. Greenwich (Conn.)
18. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)
19. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
20. Garden City (N.Y.)
21. Deerfield (Mass.)
22. Calvert Hall (Md.)
23. St. Mary’s (Md.)
24. Yorktown (N.Y.)
25. Pittsford (N.Y.)
The Under Armour/IL National Power Rankings and Regional Experts Poll will be published each Wednesday during the high school lacrosse season.
1. Culver Academy Prep (Ind.)
2. Haverford School (Pa.)
3. McDonogh (Md.)
4. Gonzaga (D.C.)
5. Boys’ Latin (Md.)
6. Massapequa (N.Y.)
7. Smithtown East (N.Y.)
8. Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
9. Chaminade (N.Y.)
10. Hill Academy (Ont.)
11. Malvern Prep (Pa.)
12. Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Darien (Conn.)
14. St. Paul’s (Md.)
15. Landon (Md.)
16. Delbarton (N.J.)
17. Greenwich (Conn.)
18. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.)
19. Georgetown Prep (Md.)
20. Garden City (N.Y.)
21. Deerfield (Mass.)
22. Calvert Hall (Md.)
23. St. Mary’s (Md.)
24. Yorktown (N.Y.)
25. Pittsford (N.Y.)
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03/26/14 CHIEFS at Chaminade L 4 – 7
03/29/14 chiefs at Garden City L 5 – 6 3OT
how does pequa stack up historically in the conference they are in? Are they considered the best program? Titles ect.?
The best program has traditionally been Farmingdale - not even close. But since they won the state title in 2011 the program has been mediocre for whatever reason. Just look at the history - Massapequa is good, Syosset ok.
totally agree with this assessment, Last 10 years
Massapequa 4 county champs, 1 Long Island champ and 1 State Champ
Syosset 3 county champs, 1 Long Island champ and 1 State runnerup
Farmingdale 2 County Champs, 1 Long Island and 1 State
Hicksville 1 Count Champ
All good but clearly no powerhouses among them
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03/26/14 CHIEFS at Chaminade L 4 – 7
03/29/14 chiefs at Garden City L 5 – 6 3OT
They may lose both games but nobody is holding that offense to 4 or 5 goals unless they stall - they have a crazy amount of talent on the offensive side of the field and if they let the dogs out they should average 10 - 12 goals a game
Yes, thank goodness for the Chiefs.
Be honest Garden city got. Very lucky . Sunny day mass would have kill them
Be honest Garden city got. Very lucky . Sunny day mass would have kill them
If Massapequa is or was that good then why would GC have needed luck? Shouldn't Massapequa have blown them out? Or at least won comfortably?
Be honest Garden city got. Very lucky . Sunny day mass would have kill them
If Massapequa is or was that good then why would GC have needed luck? Shouldn't Massapequa have blown them out? Or at least won comfortably?
Please stop now. Painful to read. It's a new year- let's see what shakes out. Don't emabarrass your team...
Be honest Garden city got. Very lucky . Sunny day mass would have kill them
Please explain how the weather adversely effected one team and not the other? a better argument might be that Massapequa jelled later in the year and in May they probably would have beaten GC. The Cheifs started the season 2-2 averaging a 8.75 goals per game - they then won their next 17 straight averaging 14.5 goals a game. and averaged 16.5 goals per game in the playoffs.
GC beats Syo 6-3 on 3/18 and Mass 6-5 a week later so based on that you would think Mass v. Syo would be a good game and it probably would have been a closer game in March but once the Chiefs went on their roll the beat Syosset by 9 and 7.
good points on this post. pequa was , at least last year a far better team. they could score in bunches. the other team averaged , I think 4 or 5 goals a game. that's counting several very lopsided high scoring games.
Be honest Garden city got. Very lucky . Sunny day mass would have kill them
luck had nothing to do with the Massapequa coach called a time out in overtime when his 50 goal scorer had the ball on the crease -
I am from pequa and watched them play a couple of games. I dont have any boys on the team as my kids are younger. I will tell you. I saw them play farmingdale last year and they won a very close but boring game where they went iso all the time and slowed the game down a lot. Fast forward a few wks later. Dont know what happened or what coach said but saw them play i guess their 2nd game against syosset and they won like 18 to 5. Completely diff team with tempo and how they moved and pushed the ball. Didnt look back since. Yes they went on a tear after. Dont think there was a team in the land that could have beat them imcluding boys latin. Sorry SE.
Pequa lost a lot to graduation. Who are going to be the starters for Pequa this year by position?
Pequa lost a lot to graduation. Who are going to be the starters for Pequa this year by position?
Mickey Mousr, Donald Duck, and Pluto on Attack
Larry, Mo, and Curley om Midfield
The father, son, and holy ghost on defense
goalie= santa clause
Very physical defense. Saw them play since 3rd grade. I believe they are all committed to play at the next level.
Enough about Massapequa...last year was their year...Decent lacrosse players this year but short on athletes--just look at their football, basketball, soccer and wrestling seasons. Syosset's year this year.
Edited for the anti semetic undertone.
You're right I heard they are putting the quarterback in goal.
Pequa lost a lot to graduation. Who are going to be the starters for Pequa this year by position?
Mickey Mousr, Donald Duck, and Pluto on Attack
Larry, Mo, and Curley om Midfield
The father, son, and holy ghost on defense
goalie= santa clause
Heard Santa Clause was hurt
Pequa lost a lot to graduation. Who are going to be the starters for Pequa this year by position?
Mickey Mousr, Donald Duck, and Pluto on Attack
Larry, Mo, and Curley om Midfield
The father, son, and holy ghost on defense
goalie= santa clause
hilarious!! it suits the comicle debate about "Pequa"
Santa hurt again. This guy cant stay on the field. Bring up the highly touted middle schoolers to help out the team
Wow !
Do any other teams on LI play a schedule against 5 or more other preseason national top 25 teams?
CHS and St A's do.
What a tough road ahead.
Please lets stick to lacrosse and not bring religion into this. We have enough other stuff to monitor on the site without this type of crap.
Where's Cage? Are there new sheriff's in town?
I think that reference was misinterpreted but I apologize nonetheless. Wouldn't Syosset fit the same description if not more so?? it was a play on words and not meant in the context you surmised it to be. To be honest, I did not know that about Massapequa--my ill informed stereotyope of the town was that it was majority Italian population. Hope that doesn't offend anyone.
I think that reference was misinterpreted but I apologize nonetheless. Wouldn't Syosset fit the same description if not more so?? it was a play on words and not meant in the context you surmised it to be. To be honest, I did not know that about Massapequa--my ill informed stereotyope of the town was that it was majority Italian population. Hope that doesn't offend anyone.
Just lets keep religion and politics off the site and things could actually be civil. Got enough religious stuff to worry about in this world we live in. Keep it to lacrosse.
[quote=Anonymous]Wow !
Do any other teams on LI play a schedule against 5 or more other preseason national top 25 teams?
CHS and St A's do.
What a tough road ahead.
According to LaxPower CHS plays 5 Top 25's; Only see 4 for St.A's unless it's a partial schedule (playing each other twice should only count as one.)
Will Syosset be having any mysterious players show up at there school and register right before the season starts ? Or do they only get football players shipped in
Breaking news:SW has no coach!
Will Syosset be having any mysterious players show up at there school and register right before the season starts ? Or do they only get football players shipped in
Someone sounds jealous
Don't worry Syosset has enough great athletes to make a winning team in any sport and if you're any athlete yourself you would know that one player can't possibly do everything and bring a team that far. It takes a team
Will Syosset be having any mysterious players show up at there school and register right before the season starts ? Or do they only get football players shipped in
With the port strike in LA finally over the new batch of athletes Syosset ordered should be delivered in plenty of time for the season. Thanks for asking.
[quote=Anonymous]Wow !
Do any other teams on LI play a schedule against 5 or more other preseason national top 25 teams?
CHS and St A's do.
What a tough road ahead.
According to LaxPower CHS plays 5 Top 25's; Only see 4 for St.A's unless it's a partial schedule (playing each other twice should only count as one.)
only a partial schedule so far for St.A's...but they almost always play Ytown and pick up another tough game from CT NJ PA or MD
would be nice to see them play Syosset or Smithtown East as nearby powerhouses, but that will probably only happen when GC and CHS play (never) so I suppose that is just a pipedream too.
Breaking news:SW has no coach!
Explain. Didn't they always have 3 head coaches.
Breaking news:SW has no coach!
Explain. Didn't they always have 3 head coaches.
Nobody knows whats going on , apparently it involves east too
Will Syosset be having any mysterious players show up at there school and register right before the season starts ? Or do they only get football players shipped in
Isn't it normal for a lot of districts to get kids that move in over the summer from out of state or out of town to start the school year in September ? What's so mysterious about a job transfer or change of residency especially over the summer months to make the transition smoother . Don't know what district you reside in but this hAppens often in desirable districts
Breaking news:SW has no coach!
Explain. Didn't they always have 3 head coaches.
Nobody knows whats going on , apparently it involves east too
Well, you got me hooked. Any details?
Will Syosset be having any mysterious players show up at there school and register right before the season starts ? Or do they only get football players shipped in
Isn't it normal for a lot of districts to get kids that move in over the summer from out of state or out of town to start the school year in September ? What's so mysterious about a job transfer or change of residency especially over the summer months to make the transition smoother . Don't know what district you reside in but this hAppens often in desirable districts
That's good, almost sound convincing.
Will Syosset be having any mysterious players show up at there school and register right before the season starts ? Or do they only get football players shipped in
Isn't it normal for a lot of districts to get kids that move in over the summer from out of state or out of town to start the school year in September ? What's so mysterious about a job transfer or change of residency especially over the summer months to make the transition smoother . Don't know what district you reside in but this hAppens often in desirable districts
That's good, almost sound convincing.
LI is a hot "transfer too" destination. The low taxes of Syosset is a big draw.
Will Syosset be having any mysterious players show up at there school and register right before the season starts ? Or do they only get football players shipped in
Isn't it normal for a lot of districts to get kids that move in over the summer from out of state or out of town to start the school year in September ? What's so mysterious about a job transfer or change of residency especially over the summer months to make the transition smoother . Don't know what district you reside in but this hAppens often in desirable districts
That's good, almost sound convincing.
LI is a hot "transfer too" destination. The low taxes of Syosset is a big draw.
Posters here do have a sense of humor. It is great that we can see the forest for the trees and not have to be nasty about it.
Will Syosset be having any mysterious players show up at there school and register right before the season starts ? Or do they only get football players shipped in
Isn't it normal for a lot of districts to get kids that move in over the summer from out of state or out of town to start the school year in September ? What's so mysterious about a job transfer or change of residency especially over the summer months to make the transition smoother . Don't know what district you reside in but this hAppens often in desirable districts
That's good, almost sound convincing.
LI is a hot "transfer too" destination. The low taxes of Syosset is a big draw.
Well sounds like you can't afford to live in syosset so go back to your low budget town!
Posters here do have a sense of humor. It is great that we can see the forest for the trees and not have to be nasty about it.
Northport would be happy to give SW their coach
Like I said earlier, you guys are great for a laugh. I truly laughed out loud. Thanks Northport. Here's to a better season.
Will Syosset be having any mysterious players show up at there school and register right before the season starts ? Or do they only get football players shipped in
Isn't it normal for a lot of districts to get kids that move in over the summer from out of state or out of town to start the school year in September ? What's so mysterious about a job transfer or change of residency especially over the summer months to make the transition smoother . Don't know what district you reside in but this hAppens often in desirable districts
That's good, almost sound convincing.
LI is a hot "transfer too" destination. The low taxes of Syosset is a big draw.
There's a reason the taxes are high in Syosset and it's the same reason that when people move to LI or decide to upgrade from elsewhere in the area that they choose high tax areas like Syosset, to have the top schools and great athletic programs ..... You get what you pay for . If you didn't then believe me we'd all choose to pay less in taxes. So again, as the other poster said, there's no mystery to getting new kids moving into a top district at beginning of school year . Parents did their homework and the "draw" was to get the best for their kids . And if they can afford it then who can blame them??
Speak for yourself Northport LOVES their coach and wouldn't trade him for anything,
Will Syosset be having any mysterious players show up at there school and register right before the season starts ? Or do they only get football players shipped in
Isn't it normal for a lot of districts to get kids that move in over the summer from out of state or out of town to start the school year in September ? What's so mysterious about a job transfer or change of residency especially over the summer months to make the transition smoother . Don't know what district you reside in but this hAppens often in desirable districts
That's good, almost sound convincing.
LI is a hot "transfer too" destination. The low taxes of Syosset is a big draw.
Well sounds like you can't afford to live in syosset so go back to your low budget town!
Posters here do have a sense of humor. It is great that we can see the forest for the trees and not have to be nasty about it.
Isn't there a trailer park in Syosset?
Pequa
A few ?s on the defensive end but looks pretty good to me for a repeat.
Unless you are the Head Coach with an official release from the school district let's keep the kids names off your list of probable starters.
No trailer parks in Pequa.
No trailer parks in Pequa.
Just low income housing!!!!
No multi-acre estates either... Hey, but its nice to always know what your neighbor is cooking on his BBQ... yeah baby south shore style...
No trailer parks in Manhasset.
No trailer parks in Northport.
no funny people in those places either evidentially
No multi-acre estates either... Hey, but its nice to always know what your neighbor is cooking on his BBQ... yeah baby south shore style...
That was actually funny
No trailer parks in Mastic either!
No more socioeconomic attacks please. This is a lacrosse forum. Kids read this and attacking where kids live and play will not be tolerated.
What a bunch of snobs.You sound like horrible people.
Just get on with the lax discussions already. Or we can simply shut down the thread.
If Smithtown is without a coach, what happens to all of the players who are in need of HS coach recommendations, etc?????
If Smithtown is without a coach, what happens to all of the players who are in need of HS coach recommendations, etc?????
What is the deal there? Is it public knowledge. Last year SWR was a hot mess over coach, this year ST has an issue and its mum the word.
If Smithtown is without a coach, what happens to all of the players who are in need of HS coach recommendations, etc?????
What is the deal there? Is it public knowledge. Last year SWR was a hot mess over coach, this year ST has an issue and its mum the word.
Why would anyone throw comments out to the world without any backup info, grade school is over. If there is info out there that can lead to a discussion and not a feeding frenzy on he said she said BS, then put it out there. Concerns about HS recommendations is a valid concern
Just get on with the lax discussions already. Or we can simply shut down the thread.
Shut the thread down? What's going on with this forum lately? Edited and deleted posts by the mods, censorship. What country are we living in?
No problem with reminding people to maintain a certain standard, but let Free Speech roll.
I hope you have the courage to let this post through, unlike the others that you've denied.
If Smithtown is without a coach, what happens to all of the players who are in need of HS coach recommendations, etc?????
What is the deal there? Is it public knowledge. Last year SWR was a hot mess over coach, this year ST has an issue and its mum the word.
two words to describe the difference "The Hop"
Just get on with the lax discussions already. Or we can simply shut down the thread.
Shut the thread down? What's going on with this forum lately? Edited and deleted posts by the mods, censorship. What country are we living in?
No problem with reminding people to maintain a certain standard, but let Free Speech roll.
I hope you have the courage to let this post through, unlike the others that you've denied.
Not sure what country you are living in but correct me if i am wrong...this is a privately owned forum which means abide by their rules not 'Merica's. Lighten up already! Semper Lax!
If Smithtown is without a coach, what happens to all of the players who are in need of HS coach recommendations, etc?????
What is the deal there? Is it public knowledge. Last year SWR was a hot mess over coach, this year ST has an issue and its mum the word.
two words to describe the difference "The Hop"
Agreed - this site has become a "state your opinion unless The Hop doesn't agree" bring back Larry
what happened to the Smithtown coach?
which Smithtown are you asking about - East or West and what are you referring too?
Lol. You people are CRAZY.
Your the same ones that threaten lawsuits because of cyber bullying and cry that it's so disrespectful and kids view these pages. DOUBLE STANDARD. These pages have not been moderated for so long that you think its ok to type pointless and juvenile words and get away with it. GROW UP. Have a debate without the childish attacks. WAY TO GO HOP! Keep it up
Thought I read that West has no coach so I was asking what happened.
Both coached were reinstated. drama over. Carry on! Good luck to all the boys playing this spring.
"Re-instated" what did they do to get "un-instated"?
If Smithtown is without a coach, what happens to all of the players who are in need of HS coach recommendations, etc?????
What is the deal there? Is it public knowledge. Last year SWR was a hot mess over coach, this year ST has an issue and its mum the word.
two words to describe the difference "The Hop"
That's right. So everyone knows your the same troll that goes from thread to thread starting trouble. Like a child you will be watched and edited until you realize the good people on these message boards want to talk respectfully about lacrosse. They have been tolerating maggots like you for too long that create and feed on controversy. Contribute or get lost.
If Smithtown is without a coach, what happens to all of the players who are in need of HS coach recommendations, etc?????
What is the deal there? Is it public knowledge. Last year SWR was a hot mess over coach, this year ST has an issue and its mum the word.
two words to describe the difference "The Hop"
That's right. So everyone knows your the same troll that goes from thread to thread starting trouble. Like a child you will be watched and edited until you realize the good people on these message boards want to talk respectfully about lacrosse. They have been tolerating maggots like you for too long that create and feed on controversy. Contribute or get lost.
Larry - you got to reel this guy in, this site needs moderators not an antagonist and censor.
What a bunch of snobs.You sound like horrible people.
Well Dicky Dunn. Your attempt to reel it in is inaccurate. The above post, preceded by several trailer park comments is the reason for the intervention comment by me. Once again....this is a lacrosse forum. Post away.
What a bunch of snobs.You sound like horrible people.
Well Dicky Dunn. Your attempt to reel it in is inaccurate. The above post, preceded by several trailer park comments is the reason for the intervention comment by me. Once again....this is a lacrosse forum. Post away.
Hop - Do you know what happen? If so can you print the facts. The issues surrounding some of these district effects many boys across the island not just the district in question.
What a bunch of snobs.You sound like horrible people.
Well Dicky Dunn. Your attempt to reel it in is inaccurate. The above post, preceded by several trailer park comments is the reason for the intervention comment by me. Once again....this is a lacrosse forum. Post away.
Hop - Do you know what happen? If so can you print the facts. The issues surrounding some of these district effects many boys across the island not just the district in question.
I am in contact as we speak with a few folks in the district. It appears there was an issue with the travel program they run but it has been resolved. I will let you know if I gather any more info but all appears Ok now.
If Smithtown is without a coach, what happens to all of the players who are in need of HS coach recommendations, etc?????
What is the deal there? Is it public knowledge. Last year SWR was a hot mess over coach, this year ST has an issue and its mum the word.
two words to describe the difference "The Hop"
That's right. So everyone knows your the same troll that goes from thread to thread starting trouble. Like a child you will be watched and edited until you realize the good people on these message boards want to talk respectfully about lacrosse. They have been tolerating maggots like you for too long that create and feed on controversy. Contribute or get lost.
everyone knows? I troll and get watched and edited like a child? Nice lie Hop. I think I got edited by Larry a long time ago, but never by you you lier. Watch all you want, but if I am not mistaken it was you trying to create controversy just the other day. Calling me a troll and maggot because you don't like my opinion is juvenile on your part don't you think, but then again so is lying about someone to make yourself look better.
If Smithtown is without a coach, what happens to all of the players who are in need of HS coach recommendations, etc?????
What is the deal there? Is it public knowledge. Last year SWR was a hot mess over coach, this year ST has an issue and its mum the word.
two words to describe the difference "The Hop"
That's right. So everyone knows your the same troll that goes from thread to thread starting trouble. Like a child you will be watched and edited until you realize the good people on these message boards want to talk respectfully about lacrosse. They have been tolerating maggots like you for too long that create and feed on controversy. Contribute or get lost.
everyone knows? I troll and get watched and edited like a child? Nice lie Hop. I think I got edited by Larry a long time ago, but never by you you lier. Watch all you want, but if I am not mistaken it was you trying to create controversy just the other day. Calling me a troll and maggot because you don't like my opinion is juvenile on your part don't you think, but then again so is lying about someone to make yourself look better.
Can't accuse me of censorship. I let this post through. However misguided it may be.
How about getting back to the topic this thread was created for. Good day and thanks for your participation.
If Smithtown is without a coach, what happens to all of the players who are in need of HS coach recommendations, etc?????
What is the deal there? Is it public knowledge. Last year SWR was a hot mess over coach, this year ST has an issue and its mum the word.
two words to describe the difference "The Hop"
That's right. So everyone knows your the same troll that goes from thread to thread starting trouble. Like a child you will be watched and edited until you realize the good people on these message boards want to talk respectfully about lacrosse. They have been tolerating maggots like you for too long that create and feed on controversy. Contribute or get lost.
everyone knows? I troll and get watched and edited like a child? Nice lie Hop. I think I got edited by Larry a long time ago, but never by you you lier. Watch all you want, but if I am not mistaken it was you trying to create controversy just the other day. Calling me a troll and maggot because you don't like my opinion is juvenile on your part don't you think, but then again so is lying about someone to make yourself look better.
Your anonymous. Who cares. Don't be a whiner. Move on and stop crying.
**ALERT***New school district lacrosse budget item passed by BOE. Snow Shovels. To be issued at beginning of practice to clear fields and improve upper body strength.
Great idea!!
take up a collection from parents for new shovels
**ALERT***New school district lacrosse budget item passed by BOE. Snow Shovels. To be issued at beginning of practice to clear fields and improve upper body strength.
Great idea!!
Get use to it! In college, many times the BOYS have to shovel the field when it can't be plowed! Not a joke.
**ALERT***New school district lacrosse budget item passed by BOE. Snow Shovels. To be issued at beginning of practice to clear fields and improve upper body strength.
Great idea!!
Get use to it! In college, many times the BOYS have to shovel the field when it can't be plowed! Not a joke.
Absolutely great idea, until Little Johnnies mommy calls AD complaining that her boy has to shovel.....he never has to do that !!
**ALERT***New school district lacrosse budget item passed by BOE. Snow Shovels. To be issued at beginning of practice to clear fields and improve upper body strength.
Great idea!!
Get use to it! In college, many times the BOYS have to shovel the field when it can't be plowed! Not a joke.
Absolutely great idea, until Little Johnnies mommy calls AD complaining that her boy has to shovel.....he never has to do that !!
There's always one miserable sort to try and bring down the good vibes! It's ok though cause it's our job to tolerate them. It's that or they kick their dog!! We are saving dogs by tolerating the DOWNERS on this site. Long live dogs!!!!!!
**ALERT***New school district lacrosse budget item passed by BOE. Snow Shovels. To be issued at beginning of practice to clear fields and improve upper body strength.
Great idea!!
Get use to it! In college, many times the BOYS have to shovel the field when it can't be plowed! Not a joke.
That is funny....got a good laugh...thanks
Absolutely great idea, until Little Johnnies mommy calls AD complaining that her boy has to shovel.....he never has to do that !!
There's always one miserable sort to try and bring down the good vibes! It's ok though cause it's our job to tolerate them. It's that or they kick their dog!! We are saving dogs by tolerating the DOWNERS on this site. Long live dogs!!!!!!
let the kiss A$$ booster club leaders do it. They can earn some extra face time with the coach.
then take a picture of the shovelers and put it in local newspaper.
As a wise man once said "If Dicky Dunn wrote it, it's got to be true!"
What a bunch of snobs.You sound like horrible people.
Well Dicky Dunn. Your attempt to reel it in is inaccurate. The above post, preceded by several trailer park comments is the reason for the intervention comment by me. Once again....this is a lacrosse forum. Post away.
let the MS call ups shovel
let the MS call ups shovel
how 1980"S of you in 2015 they call that hazing and you would be sent to jail
let the MS call ups shovel
how 1980"S of you in 2015 they call that hazing and you would be sent to jail
Yep, Im stuck in the 80's, are you (Dickie Dunn) stuck in the 70's. Listen, I have a deal for you in Sunny Florida, you interested wanna get away from the snow.
Hazing, really, I wrote it prior and I have a boy who was called up. Guess I wouldnt win any father of the year awards.
You call it hazing I call it paying your dues or paying your respect and giving back. I wish we would go back to a little more of the 80's.
let the MS call ups shovel
how 1980"S of you in 2015 they call that hazing and you would be sent to jail
Yep, Im stuck in the 80's, are you (Dickie Dunn) stuck in the 70's. Listen, I have a deal for you in Sunny Florida, you interested wanna get away from the snow.
Hazing, really, I wrote it prior and I have a boy who was called up. Guess I wouldnt win any father of the year awards.
You call it hazing I call it paying your dues or paying your respect and giving back. I wish we would go back to a little more of the 80's.
Amen
let the MS call ups shovel
how 1980"S of you in 2015 they call that hazing and you would be sent to jail
Yep, Im stuck in the 80's, are you (Dickie Dunn) stuck in the 70's. Listen, I have a deal for you in Sunny Florida, you interested wanna get away from the snow.
Hazing, really, I wrote it prior and I have a boy who was called up. Guess I wouldnt win any father of the year awards.
You call it hazing I call it paying your dues or paying your respect and giving back. I wish we would go back to a little more of the 80's.
Duuuuuuude - it was sarcastic - I would love to have my kids up at the field with a shovel in there hands and I don't have a problem with a coach kicking my kid in the a$$ if he deserves it, it was meant as a sarcastic statement on society and how the PC police have changed everything and not for the better......and I was really just trying to suck up to The Hop
Seems like St Anthony's only has 11 regular season games on the schedule, which is a bit light compared to most teams with roughly 13-16 regular season games. What gives with so many high quality teams in their own back yard.
Seems like St Anthony's only has 11 regular season games on the schedule, which is a bit light compared to most teams with roughly 13-16 regular season games. What gives with so many high quality teams in their own back yard.
don't go by what's on the school website just yet. It also shows no games until March 31. There are about 5 empty slots. I have to believe that they are still working out some of the scheduling. Using your approach then the JV team is playing no games this year and the freshman team is going back in time and playing in 2014
in my district the daddies come down and shovel
do they make sure to wear kids names on back of sweatshirts?
can I send those men who do my landscaping down to field? they do so much need the extra money.
Seems like St Anthony's only has 11 regular season games on the schedule, which is a bit light compared to most teams with roughly 13-16 regular season games. What gives with so many high quality teams in their own back yard.
don't go by what's on the school website just yet. It also shows no games until March 31. There are about 5 empty slots. I have to believe that they are still working out some of the scheduling. Using your approach then the JV team is playing no games this year and the freshman team is going back in time and playing in 2014
Laxpower also has the same schedule as the St A's website. Not sure why they don't have their act together and what the procrastination with the schedule is all about - it's not like the season just mysteriously appeared without warning and caught them by surprise. Why leave the scheduling to the last minute? Will be impossible for other schools to fit them in their schedules that have already been baked for at least a month or two. And it's not like they have to look far for good games - There are a dozen worthy opponents within a 20 mile radius - c'mon St A's - get it together already!
Seems like St Anthony's only has 11 regular season games on the schedule, which is a bit light compared to most teams with roughly 13-16 regular season games. What gives with so many high quality teams in their own back yard.
don't go by what's on the school website just yet. It also shows no games until March 31. There are about 5 empty slots. I have to believe that they are still working out some of the scheduling. Using your approach then the JV team is playing no games this year and the freshman team is going back in time and playing in 2014
Laxpower also has the same schedule as the St A's website. Not sure why they don't have their act together and what the procrastination with the schedule is all about - it's not like the season just mysteriously appeared without warning and caught them by surprise. Why leave the scheduling to the last minute? Will be impossible for other schools to fit them in their schedules that have already been baked for at least a month or two. And it's not like they have to look far for good games - There are a dozen worthy opponents within a 20 mile radius - c'mon St A's - get it together already!
nice first week of lax and there you go.
I am quite sure many schools do not have their full schedule up it is a shame St A's doesn't. but look int a few other teams and you will see holes too. So coaches on lax power aren't even correct.
Dropping some knowledge........
Since 2010, there are only 31 teams that have finished ranked nationally in the top 150(Laxpower)in each of the past 5 years... a true mark of consistency.
5 teams come from CT,
1 team each from NJ and PA.
2 teams from Upstate NY.
4 teams come from MD.
Of those 31 teams, 7 come from Long Island-
(2 Catholic's, 1 Nassau and 4 Suffolk).
Chaminade
Garden City
St Anthony's
Ward Melville
Smithtown West
Comsewogue
Shoreham-Wading River
Only 1 team in the Nation has a better 5 year national average ranking than Chaminade.... and that team is.... Haverford.
If that list of teams ranked in the top 150 is expanded to teams ranked in 4 out of the past 5 years (still a mark of consistency) the list doubles to 65 teams nationally.
From LI, that would bring Massapequa and West Islip back into the discussion.
Notable team not making the cut: Manhassett, Northport, Smithtown East, Syosett, CSH.
My question... What teams will become the next consistent models of excellence over the next 5 years?
will the catholics fall off the list?
[quote=Anonymous]Dropping some knowledge........
Since 2010, there are only 31 teams that have finished ranked nationally in the top 150(Laxpower)in each of the past 5 years... a true mark of consistency.
5 teams come from CT,
1 team each from NJ and PA.
2 teams from Upstate NY.
4 teams come from MD.
Of those 31 teams, 7 come from Long Island-
(2 Catholic's, 1 Nassau and 4 Suffolk).
Chaminade
Garden City
St Anthony's
Ward Melville
Smithtown West
Comsewogue
Shoreham-Wading River
Only 1 team in the Nation has a better 5 year national average ranking than Chaminade.... and that team is.... Haverford.
If that list of teams ranked in the top 150 is expanded to teams ranked in 4 out of the past 5 years (still a mark of consistency) the list doubles to 65 teams nationally.
From LI, that would bring Massapequa and West Islip back into the discussion.
Notable team not making the cut: Manhassett, Northport, Smithtown East, Syosett, CSH.
My question... What teams will become the next consistent models of excellence over the next 5 years?
will the catholics fall off the list?
past performance is not an indicator of future results... times they are a changing
past performance is not an indicator of future results... times they are a changing [/quote]
responder is probably from Smithtown East or Northport.... we've been hearing it for years.
past performance may not be an indicator of current results....
and current results may not be in line with historical performance,
but...
I'd make the bet that Coaches that have delivered regularly superior results and schools with consistent coaching and supportive programs will have a better chance of achievement longer term (even if there is a "trip up year").
Great example of this is West Islip... very likely to remain a strong program with coach Craig.
Whats going on with farmingdale? There used to be no lax conversation that did not involve them. Will they come back to prominence or is it gettig bad over there in Daler country
Whats going on with farmingdale? There used to be no lax conversation that did not involve them. Will they come back to prominence or is it gettig bad over there in Daler country
The head coach should have retired already. They lost all of there good assistant coaches over the last few years and have a head assistant now that was the sole reason 11 players including 5 starters quit the team last year. This guy should not have been able to keep his job this year.
As a Daler I think the program is in terrible shape because of the way it's being run. But with that said they as always have talent including one of the top goalies on the island who is only a junior.
If you let the kid quit over a coach, what next you don't like your teacher drop out, your boss is mean so quit, my son hated his coach but loved playing. So he adjusted
If you let the kid quit over a coach, what next you don't like your teacher drop out, your boss is mean so quit, my son hated his coach but loved playing. So he adjusted
First HS kids are old enough to make there own decision whether or not to play. Second HS kids should not be forced to be abused by "coaches" that should not be around student athletes.
it was great to see the boys back on the field - they looked pretty good considering they only had one day on the field before the scrimmage. it's going to be a good year
Whats going on with farmingdale? There used to be no lax conversation that did not involve them. Will they come back to prominence or is it gettig bad over there in Daler country
Besides the head coach being way to old a big issue with the dalers is that there is zero communication between the JV and Varsity coaches. Last year the Varsity moved a player up during the middle of the season and this player wasn't even a starter on the JV and didn't make an impact on any games. He also didn't see the field on Varsity either. The Varsity coaches don't ask the opinion of the JV coaches that work with the players everyday. The JV coaches call out names for attendance of players that got called up because they don't even get a courtesy notification.
. how in the world would YOU know what conversations take place among coaches?
. how in the world would YOU know what conversations take place among coaches?
Because the JV coach has told the parents and players this on numerous occasions every single year!
. how in the world would YOU know what conversations take place among coaches?
Because the JV coach has told the parents and players this on numerous occasions every single year!
JV coach should be fired for insubordination if he is talking behind the back of the varsity coach - this would never happen in Hewlett
. how in the world would YOU know what conversations take place among coaches?
Because the JV coach has told the parents and players this on numerous occasions every single year!
JV coach should be fired for insubordination if he is talking behind the back of the varsity coach - this would never happen in Hewlett
Almost everyone in Farmingdale would disagree and say that the Varsity coach should be forced to retire as he did 20 years ago from teaching. My son shouldn't be playing for the same coach that I played for in the 90's when that coach was old back then.
agree. every single year? really? why would jv coach share that ?
Well said - kids have to adjust to the coaches, not the other way around
your son shouldn't be playing for same coach you played for? I'm sure that you are aware that several school districts , at least one very very prominent football and lacrosse programs have coaches who have coached for many years.football coach been there for over 40 yrs and is so old his team won LIC 2 yrs ago. lax coach has a stellar reputation and played there ... its a thrill to have your son play for your old coach. its a rare privilege and a testament to consistent program.
an agreement or agreement can be made that some coaches should still coach as long as they can and some others should hang up the whistle no matter how long they've coached.
I would also say a record is not always an indication. Some take weak teams further than expected some do not take teams as far as they should. (regardless of longevity)
Why not List the coaches years of service and record and playoff appearances.
Personally, I will say the coach shouldn't be someone the players grandfather went to college with.
an agreement or agreement can be made that some coaches should still coach as long as they can and some others should hang up the whistle no matter how long they've coached.
I would also say a record is not always an indication. Some take weak teams further than expected some do not take teams as far as they should. (regardless of longevity)
Why not List the coaches years of service and record and playoff appearances.
Personally, I will say the coach shouldn't be someone the players grandfather went to college with.
The Farmingdale coach has been the head coach there since the 60's and Farmingdale has always been one of the strongest programs in Nassau yet he has won only 1 state title in 2011 and that was with the assistants that have since left doing all of the actual coaching. He's just a figure head at this point which is bad because of the lack of ability of the head assistants.
so the varsity assistants aren't up to snuff, the jv coaches go crying to the mommies, what else? this is so silly
an agreement or agreement can be made that some coaches should still coach as long as they can and some others should hang up the whistle no matter how long they've coached.
I would also say a record is not always an indication. Some take weak teams further than expected some do not take teams as far as they should. (regardless of longevity)
Why not List the coaches years of service and record and playoff appearances.
Personally, I will say the coach shouldn't be someone the players grandfather went to college with.
The Farmingdale coach has been the head coach there since the 60's and Farmingdale has always been one of the strongest programs in Nassau yet he has won only 1 state title in 2011 and that was with the assistants that have since left doing all of the actual coaching. He's just a figure head at this point which is bad because of the lack of ability of the head assistants.
Welcome to PAL
an agreement or agreement can be made that some coaches should still coach as long as they can and some others should hang up the whistle no matter how long they've coached.
I would also say a record is not always an indication. Some take weak teams further than expected some do not take teams as far as they should. (regardless of longevity)
Why not List the coaches years of service and record and playoff appearances.
Personally, I will say the coach shouldn't be someone the players grandfather went to college with.
He and Teddy Roosevelt were excellent lacrosse players.
You people are blaming a man who has coached a very successful program for over 40 years. Probobly longer than most of you pussies are alive. He's coached plenty of players that have gone on to play at the highest levels. Don't blame the coach if the talent isn't there right now. Let's move onto another topic . This sounds like a few angry Daler parents who's kid don't get asked to play Varsity. Maybe he's not as good as you think.
You people are blaming a man who has coached a very successful program for over 40 years. Probobly longer than most of you pussies are alive. He's coached plenty of players that have gone on to play at the highest levels. Don't blame the coach if the talent isn't there right now. Let's move onto another topic . This sounds like a few angry Daler parents who's kid don't get asked to play Varsity. Maybe he's not as good as you think.
No dalers that went on to play at college received any help from the head coach. There has always until 2012 been great assistants that help the players and the club coaches in recent years too.
Teddy Roosevelt held back in 8th grade.
You people are blaming a man who has coached a very successful program for over 40 years. Probobly longer than most of you pussies are alive. He's coached plenty of players that have gone on to play at the highest levels. Don't blame the coach if the talent isn't there right now. Let's move onto another topic . This sounds like a few angry Daler parents who's kid don't get asked to play Varsity. Maybe he's not as good as you think.
No dalers that went on to play at college received any help from the head coach. There has always until 2012 been great assistants that help the players and the club coaches in recent years too.
Any I assume you were one of those ? No. I went to a D1 school and he helped a lot. Sorry your kid isn't skilled enough to get moved up. Don't take it out on the coach
You people are blaming a man who has coached a very successful program for over 40 years. Probobly longer than most of you pussies are alive. He's coached plenty of players that have gone on to play at the highest levels. Don't blame the coach if the talent isn't there right now. Let's move onto another topic . This sounds like a few angry Daler parents who's kid don't get asked to play Varsity. Maybe he's not as good as you think.
No dalers that went on to play at college received any help from the head coach. There has always until 2012 been great assistants that help the players and the club coaches in recent years too.
Any I assume you were one of those ? No. I went to a D1 school and he helped a lot. Sorry your kid isn't skilled enough to get moved up. Don't take it out on the coach
My son is on Varsity and nobody said anything about anyone not getting moved up. These days the head coach isn't involved in those choices anyway! Just stating the overwhelming feelings within the town.
You people are blaming a man who has coached a very successful program for over 40 years. Probobly longer than most of you pussies are alive. He's coached plenty of players that have gone on to play at the highest levels. Don't blame the coach if the talent isn't there right now. Let's move onto another topic . This sounds like a few angry Daler parents who's kid don't get asked to play Varsity. Maybe he's not as good as you think.
No dalers that went on to play at college received any help from the head coach. There has always until 2012 been great assistants that help the players and the club coaches in recent years too.
Any I assume you were one of those ? No. I went to a D1 school and he helped a lot. Sorry your kid isn't skilled enough to get moved up. Don't take it out on the coach
My son is on Varsity and nobody said anything about anyone not getting moved up. These days the head coach isn't involved in those choices anyway! Just stating the overwhelming feelings within the town.
Syosset beat chaminade 9-2 today!!!!!
Ok won't doubt it they played today!!!!! And don bosci
Teddy Roosevelt held back in 8th grade.
This is not true. Teddy was not held back, he was "re-classified" so that he would have a better chance of making varsity. He was an 1887 but was really a 1886 with the "re-classification."
You people are blaming a man who has coached a very successful program for over 40 years. Probobly longer than most of you pussies are alive. He's coached plenty of players that have gone on to play at the highest levels. Don't blame the coach if the talent isn't there right now. Let's move onto another topic . This sounds like a few angry Daler parents who's kid don't get asked to play Varsity. Maybe he's not as good as you think.
No dalers that went on to play at college received any help from the head coach. There has always until 2012 been great assistants that help the players and the club coaches in recent years too.
Any I assume you were one of those ? No. I went to a D1 school and he helped a lot. Sorry your kid isn't skilled enough to get moved up. Don't take it out on the coach
My son is on Varsity and nobody said anything about anyone not getting moved up. These days the head coach isn't involved in those choices anyway! Just stating the overwhelming feelings within the town.
Syosset beat chaminade 9-2 today!!!!!
Think the end score was syosset 7 - Chaminade 1
Chaminade definitely only had one goal
Syosset won against Don Bosco also about 12-2
But then lost to lynbrook by 1
Good day of lacrosse despite the weather
You people are blaming a man who has coached a very successful program for over 40 years. Probobly longer than most of you pussies are alive. He's coached plenty of players that have gone on to play at the highest levels. Don't blame the coach if the talent isn't there right now. Let's move onto another topic . This sounds like a few angry Daler parents who's kid don't get asked to play Varsity. Maybe he's not as good as you think.
No dalers that went on to play at college received any help from the head coach. There has always until 2012 been great assistants that help the players and the club coaches in recent years too.
Any I assume you were one of those ? No. I went to a D1 school and he helped a lot. Sorry your kid isn't skilled enough to get moved up. Don't take it out on the coach
How old are you 40
Teddy Roosevelt held back in 8th grade.
This is not true. Teddy was not held back, he was "re-classified" so that he would have a better chance of making varsity. He was an 1887 but was really a 1886 with the "re-classification."
He was highly criticized for it initially, he said at first it was a Rough Ride, but overall he was glad he did it
You are wasting perfectly good historical sarcasm, do you think the readers here are going to get it
Not familiar with the name. What team/region did he play for. Showcase???
You are wasting perfectly good historical sarcasm, do you think the readers here are going to get it
I would like to re-classify your post as condescending - we all got the historical reference, it just was funny enough to comment on - and I always assumed TR was a defensemen as it is well know that he talked softly but carried a big stick......that is an historical reference to TR's travels in West Africa and his quoting of the proverb.
you really need to get some books in Suffolk.
ok smarty pants...why did you end a sentence with a preposition?
nice work took you only 4 days to come up with that information.
Teddy Roosevelt held back in 8th grade.
This is not true. Teddy was not held back, he was "re-classified" so that he would have a better chance of making varsity. He was an 1887 but was really a 1886 with the "re-classification."
He was highly criticized for it initially, he said at first it was a Rough Ride, but overall he was glad he did it
What? You mean he plays for the Rough Riders? Dude, you shouldn't be calling out kids by name on a pubic forum!
ok smarty pants...why did you end a sentence with a preposition?
nice work took you only 4 days to come up with that information.
it took about 4 minutes not 4 days, some of us don't go to this site every day and i would not have ended on a preposition if I had any idea what that means or that I did it, I went to public school and we didn't learn good
Syosset beats GC easily. Nice job!
Syosset beats GC easily. Nice job!
9-7 is easily?
Gc has problem in all a aspects
Offense same as last year
Gc has problem in all a aspects
Offense same as last year
Syosset. Starting season real strong, beating chaminade and garden city!!!
Massapequa looks strong too.
I enjoyed your prediction, great read, very well informed and interesting detailed analysis of the two teams. is this Ty?
save the trash talk pequa...only hurts your towns image...just play and gloat after if you must.
Syosset beats GC easily. Nice job!
9-7 is easily?
easy enough
Gc has problem in all a aspects
Offense same as last year
Syosset. Starting season real strong, beating chaminade and garden city!!!
Weird, can't find that win over Chaminade anywhere!
It's almost like they're not even on each other's schedule.
But I'm sure that win counts somewhere.
I enjoyed your prediction, great read, very well informed and interesting detailed analysis of the two teams. is this Ty?
Actually not. I have a kid on the team. Here we talk about better teams , towns , where it counts. Not a 5th grade travel team. You people are crazy programmed zombies losing sleep over a club team that's making big $$$$ off of you .
CSH vs. manhasset looks like the big game on today's schedule...
Props to St. Anthony's for filling out their schedule with some tough teams.
They added the following:
2-Apr at Episcopal Academy (0-0)
4-Apr at Haverford School (2-0)
18-Apr Niskayuna (0-0)
27-Apr at Don Bosco Prep (0-0)
2-May at Brookfield (0-0)
Plus they already have the following already on the schedule
11-Apr Delbarton (0-0)
15-Apr at Chaminade (0-0)
25-Apr Wilton (0-0)
7-May Chaminade (0-0)
14-May Darien (0-0)
16-May New Canaan (0-0)
Another Gauntlet Schedule.
Does any big-time LI public school team have a tougher schedule than Chaminade or St. Anthony's?
Gc has problem in all a aspects
Offense same as last year
GC probably needs to get some sophs up on varsity and playing in order to get better in a hurry.
some really good early commits... but one d pole left to go to St. Ants (was he recruited?)
Props to St. Anthony's for filling out their schedule with some tough teams.
They added the following:
2-Apr at Episcopal Academy (0-0)
4-Apr at Haverford School (2-0)
18-Apr Niskayuna (0-0)
27-Apr at Don Bosco Prep (0-0)
2-May at Brookfield (0-0)
Plus they already have the following already on the schedule
11-Apr Delbarton (0-0)
15-Apr at Chaminade (0-0)
25-Apr Wilton (0-0)
7-May Chaminade (0-0)
14-May Darien (0-0)
16-May New Canaan (0-0)
Another Gauntlet Schedule.
Does any big-time LI public school team have a tougher schedule than Chaminade or St. Anthony's?
Chaminade has about 60% more boys than any other high school on Long Island, it's actually kind of lame that they're not better
Gc has problem in all a aspects
Offense same as last year
Syosset. Starting season real strong, beating chaminade and garden city!!!
Weird, can't find that win over Chaminade anywhere!
It's almost like they're not even on each other's schedule.
But I'm sure that win counts somewhere.
Exactly, not on schedules bc it was a scrimmage but definitely counts to anyone who thinks chaminade is the team to beat considering it was like chaminade wasn't even in the game . Syosset took their starters out early on and let everyone play (Syosset is deep with strong 2nd, 3rd lines that kept Chaminade tied up )bc it was so uncompetitive , can you imagine the score if Syosset didn't let up and went all out on this scrimmage that you say doesn't count ? Kind of goes to show that these pre-season rankings mean nothing . Can't make predictions until teams hit the fields and actually show what they're made of .
"scrimmage" is a misnomer… parents, players and coaches all know the score. or at least who had more goals, thus who "won" at the end. Playing all the kids just shows how deep the teams are. If Syosset played all of their players and still beat Chaminade's bench, then Syosset, at all levels was better on that day. Time will tell.
Gc has problem in all a aspects
Offense same as last year
Syosset. Starting season real strong, beating chaminade and garden city!!!
Weird, can't find that win over Chaminade anywhere!
It's almost like they're not even on each other's schedule.
But I'm sure that win counts somewhere.
Exactly, not on schedules bc it was a scrimmage but definitely counts to anyone who thinks chaminade is the team to beat considering it was like chaminade wasn't even in the game . Syosset took their starters out early on and let everyone play (Syosset is deep with strong 2nd, 3rd lines that kept Chaminade tied up )bc it was so uncompetitive , can you imagine the score if Syosset didn't let up and went all out on this scrimmage that you say doesn't count ? Kind of goes to show that these pre-season rankings mean nothing . Can't make predictions until teams hit the fields and actually show what they're made of .
right, and we're sure that the Terps Commit from Chaminade played in that scrimmage even though he just finished hoops season a few days ago while playing hurt.
Props to St. Anthony's for filling out their schedule with some tough teams.
They added the following:
2-Apr at Episcopal Academy (0-0)
4-Apr at Haverford School (2-0)
18-Apr Niskayuna (0-0)
27-Apr at Don Bosco Prep (0-0)
2-May at Brookfield (0-0)
Plus they already have the following already on the schedule
11-Apr Delbarton (0-0)
15-Apr at Chaminade (0-0)
25-Apr Wilton (0-0)
7-May Chaminade (0-0)
14-May Darien (0-0)
16-May New Canaan (0-0)
Another Gauntlet Schedule.
Does any big-time LI public school team have a tougher schedule than Chaminade or St. Anthony's?
Chaminade has about 60% more boys than any other high school on Long Island, it's actually kind of lame that they're not better
don't you mean that Brentwood should have the best team on Long Island because they actually have the most boys.
right, and using that logic...
Brooklyn Tech should be the best in the country because they are the biggest and have the most boys.
If not, what do you mean?
Props to St. Anthony's for filling out their schedule with some tough teams.
They added the following:
2-Apr at Episcopal Academy (0-0)
4-Apr at Haverford School (2-0)
18-Apr Niskayuna (0-0)
27-Apr at Don Bosco Prep (0-0)
2-May at Brookfield (0-0)
Plus they already have the following already on the schedule
11-Apr Delbarton (0-0)
15-Apr at Chaminade (0-0)
25-Apr Wilton (0-0)
7-May Chaminade (0-0)
14-May Darien (0-0)
16-May New Canaan (0-0)
Another Gauntlet Schedule.
Does any big-time LI public school team have a tougher schedule than Chaminade or St. Anthony's?
Chaminade has about 60% more boys than any other high school on Long Island, it's actually kind of lame that they're not better
don't you mean that Brentwood should have the best team on Long Island because they actually have the most boys.
right, and using that logic...
Brooklyn Tech should be the best in the country because they are the biggest and have the most boys.
If not, what do you mean?
yeah I think brentwood is better at the sports that pay for your college? I get it Soccer Basketball or lacrosse? Hmm
Is Chaminade doown this year?
they will be ok. too bad sophs don't play varsity thgere. they have a couple of very good seniors then....yikes
Gc has problem in all a aspects
Offense same as last year
Syosset. Starting season real strong, beating chaminade and garden city!!!
Weird, can't find that win over Chaminade anywhere!
It's almost like they're not even on each other's schedule.
But I'm sure that win counts somewhere.
Exactly, not on schedules bc it was a scrimmage but definitely counts to anyone who thinks chaminade is the team to beat considering it was like chaminade wasn't even in the game . Syosset took their starters out early on and let everyone play (Syosset is deep with strong 2nd, 3rd lines that kept Chaminade tied up )bc it was so uncompetitive , can you imagine the score if Syosset didn't let up and went all out on this scrimmage that you say doesn't count ? Kind of goes to show that these pre-season rankings mean nothing . Can't make predictions until teams hit the fields and actually show what they're made of .
right, and we're sure that the Terps Commit from Chaminade played in that scrimmage even though he just finished hoops season a few days ago while playing hurt.
right, and we're sure that the 3-4 D1 Syosset commits that are some of their best players didn't play either trying to rest their preseason injuries before their first scheduled games this week. Goes both ways but same outcome ... Really bad excuse
Gc has problem in all a aspects
Offense same as last year
Syosset. Starting season real strong, beating chaminade and garden city!!!
Weird, can't find that win over Chaminade anywhere!
It's almost like they're not even on each other's schedule.
But I'm sure that win counts somewhere.
Exactly, not on schedules bc it was a scrimmage but definitely counts to anyone who thinks chaminade is the team to beat considering it was like chaminade wasn't even in the game . Syosset took their starters out early on and let everyone play (Syosset is deep with strong 2nd, 3rd lines that kept Chaminade tied up )bc it was so uncompetitive , can you imagine the score if Syosset didn't let up and went all out on this scrimmage that you say doesn't count ? Kind of goes to show that these pre-season rankings mean nothing . Can't make predictions until teams hit the fields and actually show what they're made of .
right, and we're sure that the Terps Commit from Chaminade played in that scrimmage even though he just finished hoops season a few days ago while playing hurt.
No dog in this fight. However, Syosset has been practicing, I mean training, 3 days a week for months. Let's see what happens come may.
I was watching the scrimmage from start to finish. My kid was on another team there. I was on Chaminades sideline and it seemed to me their coach was playing kids that are not their starters from the start of the game trying to sort out players. The basketball star did not play and they were missing a few others that just finished hockey season. I asked a player how long have they been practicing and he said that it was the first week outside full filed as a team so that scrimmage to me meant nothing. Syosset was good but you could tell they were further along than anyone else at the 4 way scrimmage. Must say though not a fan of how the Syosset kids were acting on the sidelines. Coach needs to control them
Gc has problem in all a aspects
Offense same as last year
Syosset. Starting season real strong, beating chaminade and garden city!!!
Weird, can't find that win over Chaminade anywhere!
It's almost like they're not even on each other's schedule.
But I'm sure that win counts somewhere.
Exactly, not on schedules bc it was a scrimmage but definitely counts to anyone who thinks chaminade is the team to beat considering it was like chaminade wasn't even in the game . Syosset took their starters out early on and let everyone play (Syosset is deep with strong 2nd, 3rd lines that kept Chaminade tied up )bc it was so uncompetitive , can you imagine the score if Syosset didn't let up and went all out on this scrimmage that you say doesn't count ? Kind of goes to show that these pre-season rankings mean nothing . Can't make predictions until teams hit the fields and actually show what they're made of .
right, and we're sure that the Terps Commit from Chaminade played in that scrimmage even though he just finished hoops season a few days ago while playing hurt.
No dog in this fight. However, Syosset has been practicing, I mean training, 3 days a week for months. Let's see what happens come may.
don't expect a fight
chaminade will finish top 20 in the country again and Syosset will not finish in the top 100
Gc has problem in all a aspects
Offense same as last year
Syosset. Starting season real strong, beating chaminade and garden city!!!
Weird, can't find that win over Chaminade anywhere!
It's almost like they're not even on each other's schedule.
But I'm sure that win counts somewhere.
Exactly, not on schedules bc it was a scrimmage but definitely counts to anyone who thinks chaminade is the team to beat considering it was like chaminade wasn't even in the game . Syosset took their starters out early on and let everyone play (Syosset is deep with strong 2nd, 3rd lines that kept Chaminade tied up )bc it was so uncompetitive , can you imagine the score if Syosset didn't let up and went all out on this scrimmage that you say doesn't count ? Kind of goes to show that these pre-season rankings mean nothing . Can't make predictions until teams hit the fields and actually show what they're made of .
right, and we're sure that the Terps Commit from Chaminade played in that scrimmage even though he just finished hoops season a few days ago while playing hurt.
No dog in this fight. However, Syosset has been practicing, I mean training, 3 days a week for months. Let's see what happens come may.
Yea right along with Chaminade, CSH and port washington during their training
And many other varsity teams
right, and we're sure that the Terps Commit from Chaminade played in that scrimmage even though he just finished hoops season a few days ago while playing hurt.
Terp would be a 9th grader and would probably be on the Freshman team not Varsity as per their policy not because of injury. Chaminade has a few Extreme players committed but I do not think any of their terps are committed yet. The Chaminade 2018 class is going to be truly outstanding
If you a bragging about them beating GC you should be worried. GC is down, way down this year and years to come. Their attack is a mess and scored 4 of the 7 goals against syossets defense. Combined they weigh 200 lbs. One kid has blinders and just wants to score and the other 2 if hit will quit but draw penalties because the refs feel bad for them. Syosset needs to play a real schedule. GC is in for a long year.
The poster is referring to a 2016 graduate that is committed to University of Maryland...mascot name Terrapins aka Terps...not a club lacrosse team.
Props to St. Anthony's for filling out their schedule with some tough teams.
They added the following:
2-Apr at Episcopal Academy (0-0)
4-Apr at Haverford School (2-0)
18-Apr Niskayuna (0-0)
27-Apr at Don Bosco Prep (0-0)
2-May at Brookfield (0-0)
Plus they already have the following already on the schedule
11-Apr Delbarton (0-0)
15-Apr at Chaminade (0-0)
25-Apr Wilton (0-0)
7-May Chaminade (0-0)
14-May Darien (0-0)
16-May New Canaan (0-0)
Another Gauntlet Schedule.
Does any big-time LI public school team have a tougher schedule than Chaminade or St. Anthony's?
Chaminade has about 60% more boys than any other high school on Long Island, it's actually kind of lame that they're not better
don't you mean that Brentwood should have the best team on Long Island because they actually have the most boys.
right, and using that logic...
Brooklyn Tech should be the best in the country because they are the biggest and have the most boys.
If not, what do you mean?
i looked at the same report you obviously referenced. There are a bunch of city schools that are bigger, but of the schools that actually play serious lacrosse, Chaminade is substantially bigger and recruits kids to the school...don't think Brentwood has that luxury or the reputation for investing in their lacrosse program. The only other schools that have strong lax programs on that list and have anywhere close to the number of boys that Chaminade has is Sachem. Did you say any others genius?
CORRECTION TO THE LAST POSTER HE IS A 2015 COMMIT TO MARYLAND THAT IS THE BASKETBALL STANDOUT. All around very good 3 sport athlete.
so your kid didn't play ? that is too bad. keep complaining on this site and bashing the starters. that will make you feel good , won't change things , but you will feel great and you stay anonymous!!!
that's in response to the fair and balanced take on the Syosset vs garden city game
If you a bragging about them beating GC you should be worried. GC is down, way down this year and years to come. Their attack is a mess and scored 4 of the 7 goals against syossets defense. Combined they weigh 200 lbs. One kid has blinders and just wants to score and the other 2 if hit will quit but draw penalties because the refs feel bad for them. Syosset needs to play a real schedule. GC is in for a long year.
get the 2017's out there on the GC squad help is on the way
Sorry if you took it that way CAPS LOCK WAS ON WASNT YELLING. Not my kid but will tell you he will be ready to go in a couple of weeks. Big part of offense that is still looking for players to step up. Maryland connection to Chaminade moved to Loyola.
Props to St. Anthony's for filling out their schedule with some tough teams.
They added the following:
2-Apr at Episcopal Academy (0-0)
4-Apr at Haverford School (2-0)
18-Apr Niskayuna (0-0)
27-Apr at Don Bosco Prep (0-0)
2-May at Brookfield (0-0)
Plus they already have the following already on the schedule
11-Apr Delbarton (0-0)
15-Apr at Chaminade (0-0)
25-Apr Wilton (0-0)
7-May Chaminade (0-0)
14-May Darien (0-0)
16-May New Canaan (0-0)
Another Gauntlet Schedule.
Does any big-time LI public school team have a tougher schedule than Chaminade or St. Anthony's?
Chaminade has about 60% more boys than any other high school on Long Island, it's actually kind of lame that they're not better
don't you mean that Brentwood should have the best team on Long Island because they actually have the most boys.
right, and using that logic...
Brooklyn Tech should be the best in the country because they are the biggest and have the most boys.
If not, what do you mean?
i looked at the same report you obviously referenced. There are a bunch of city schools that are bigger, but of the schools that actually play serious lacrosse, Chaminade is substantially bigger and recruits kids to the school...don't think Brentwood has that luxury or the reputation for investing in their lacrosse program. The only other schools that have strong lax programs on that list and have anywhere close to the number of boys that Chaminade has is Sachem. Did you say any others genius?
Never referenced a report...
Chaminade does not recruit. Academics are first at Chaminade. Do well on the test and the student is accepted.
Responded to a false statement that Chaminade has 60% more boys than any other LI HS... fact checked and debunked.
There is the fact that Chaminade, over the past 5 years, has the second best average national ranking in the country. Only Haverford can claim better.
So, you who thinks Chaminade is lame because they are not better apparently can only turn to disparaging remarks rather than appreciating team excellence and consistency. You also obviously have a strong disdain for the facts.
St Anthony's is a sports machine, Chaminade is an academic machine. Don't fool yourself given the 2 choices you would be crazy not to send your son to Chaminade. They take care of their own especially with internships and employment opportunities after college
Looks like GC in another "rebuild year". Roster includes some young (small) talent...(2017&2018) ..perhaps senior d1 commits could be playing larger role.....
You would think so but they don't respect the seniors to the extent that they consider their last year as an earned opportunity. Hopefully they give them a chance to enjoy some meaningfull time especially since they Arent in national top ranking this year
Love chaminades model
No freshmen or sophs play varsity
They seem to do well
Love chaminades model
No freshmen or sophs play varsity
They seem to do well
I don't understand why you would limit fresh/soph to JV team's. I think the best players should play in High School.
Any scores from todays games?
Love chaminades model
No freshmen or sophs play varsity
They seem to do well
I don't understand why you would limit fresh/soph to JV team's. I think the best players should play in High School.
go play for public school if that's what you are looking for.
Love chaminades model
No freshmen or sophs play varsity
They seem to do well
I don't understand why you would limit fresh/soph to JV team's. I think the best players should play in High School.
go play for public school if that's what you are looking for.
Chaminade is about education first and age appropriate development in the classroom and on the field. What you don't realize is Chaminades kids and parents #1 goal is not to coach summer lacrosse after college like most travel parents want for their kids!
Love chaminades model
No freshmen or sophs play varsity
They seem to do well
I don't understand why you would limit fresh/soph to JV team's. I think the best players should play in High School.
go play for public school if that's what you are looking for.
Chaminade is about education first and age appropriate development in the classroom and on the field. What you don't realize is Chaminades kids and parents #1 goal is not to coach summer lacrosse after college like most travel parents want for their kids!
My question was not intended to put down private schools or somehow get into bashing summer lacrosse coaches, I was simply asking why even in an academic first institution you would limit someone's athletic development. If they are physically better and more skilled than a junior or senior why would they not be allowed to play. I read and understand academics first, but athletics is part of the package of being a well rounded, adjusted college ready young adult upon graduation. What is age appropriate, one year, two years, how do we determine that exactly? If it is one year, why can't a sophomore play with a junior? How can a junior possibly compete with a senior? What message is being sent to the junior or senior that is first string even though there might be better players on the JV.
Love chaminades model
No freshmen or sophs play varsity
They seem to do well
I don't understand why you would limit fresh/soph to JV team's. I think the best players should play in High School.
go play for public school if that's what you are looking for.
Chaminade is about education first and age appropriate development in the classroom and on the field. What you don't realize is Chaminades kids and parents #1 goal is not to coach summer lacrosse after college like most travel parents want for their kids!
I hear your arguement. It was well put. However, riddle me this one Batman....
If we are going with your theory, why is it that this institution would allow a student who already was accepted as a Class of 2019 grad to reapply as a Class of 2018 student?
Please speak to the question.
Love chaminades model
No freshmen or sophs play varsity
They seem to do well
I don't understand why you would limit fresh/soph to JV team's. I think the best players should play in High School.
go play for public school if that's what you are looking for.
Chaminade is about education first and age appropriate development in the classroom and on the field. What you don't realize is Chaminades kids and parents #1 goal is not to coach summer lacrosse after college like most travel parents want for their kids!
Why is it OK for you to speak disparagingly about travel parents?
No one had an ill thing to say about you, your son, his school, etc. Your son is a travel player. That makes you a travel parent.
Because you chose to send your son to Chaminade, does not give you the right to put down others choices.
It most certainly does not give you the right to speak for what "travel" parents want, need, expect, etc.
Shame on you for thinking/writing about what travel parents want more for their sons.
Please speak for your son and what you want for your son.
Love chaminades model
No freshmen or sophs play varsity
They seem to do well
I don't understand why you would limit fresh/soph to JV team's. I think the best players should play in High School.
go play for public school if that's what you are looking for.
Chaminade is about education first and age appropriate development in the classroom and on the field. What you don't realize is Chaminades kids and parents #1 goal is not to coach summer lacrosse after college like most travel parents want for their kids!
My question was not intended to put down private schools or somehow get into bashing summer lacrosse coaches, I was simply asking why even in an academic first institution you would limit someone's athletic development. If they are physically better and more skilled than a junior or senior why would they not be allowed to play. I read and understand academics first, but athletics is part of the package of being a well rounded, adjusted college ready young adult upon graduation. What is age appropriate, one year, two years, how do we determine that exactly? If it is one year, why can't a sophomore play with a junior? How can a junior possibly compete with a senior? What message is being sent to the junior or senior that is first string even though there might be better players on the JV.
Don't dignify the prior poster's comment. Chaminade parents are generally insecure so they need to pump up the institution to justify why they send their sons there. I can't figure it out, a catholic high school and they act like their kids go to a high school Harvard equivalent. Most, if not all, Chaminade lacrosse players are on travel teams and these catholic school families from Chaminade and St. A's take lax as seriously as any other people on LI. More often than not, you see these Chaminade posts touting their superiority but that's a clear sign the parents are insecure and are lacking something else in their lives to be proud of.
Love chaminades model
No freshmen or sophs play varsity
They seem to do well
I don't understand why you would limit fresh/soph to JV team's. I think the best players should play in High School.
go play for public school if that's what you are looking for.
Chaminade is about education first and age appropriate development in the classroom and on the field. What you don't realize is Chaminades kids and parents #1 goal is not to coach summer lacrosse after college like most travel parents want for their kids!
My question was not intended to put down private schools or somehow get into bashing summer lacrosse coaches, I was simply asking why even in an academic first institution you would limit someone's athletic development. If they are physically better and more skilled than a junior or senior why would they not be allowed to play. I read and understand academics first, but athletics is part of the package of being a well rounded, adjusted college ready young adult upon graduation. What is age appropriate, one year, two years, how do we determine that exactly? If it is one year, why can't a sophomore play with a junior? How can a junior possibly compete with a senior? What message is being sent to the junior or senior that is first string even though there might be better players on the JV.
Why is the concept of waiting your turn so hard to grasp? Every boy going to Chaminade is fully aware of the policy, and still they go. It's having respect for the system, and your elders/upperclassmen. All of the parents crying about how much better there Freshman son is, are full of crap. They might have a better stick but the physical and mental development isn't there (unless your the kid thats cheating by doing 8th grade over, personally, Cham is lowering it's standards by allowing that kid enrollment). Very rarely does a underclassmen actually lead there kid to a championship, usually they are just another number on the field, and a reason for mommy and daddy to brag. Unless a team is in desperate need for players because they don't have enough kids to field a team, 7th, 8th,and 9th, graders should never be on a varsity squad, and only the truly exceptional 10th graders should be allowed, if there are enough upperclassmen available. Cham is doing the right thing, if you don't like the right thing stay in your public and cry to your coach, you'll get what you want
Props to St. Anthony's for filling out their schedule with some tough teams.
They added the following:
2-Apr at Episcopal Academy (0-0)
4-Apr at Haverford School (2-0)
18-Apr Niskayuna (0-0)
27-Apr at Don Bosco Prep (0-0)
2-May at Brookfield (0-0)
Plus they already have the following already on the schedule
11-Apr Delbarton (0-0)
15-Apr at Chaminade (0-0)
25-Apr Wilton (0-0)
7-May Chaminade (0-0)
14-May Darien (0-0)
16-May New Canaan (0-0)
Another Gauntlet Schedule.
Does any big-time LI public school team have a tougher schedule than Chaminade or St. Anthony's?
Chaminade has about 60% more boys than any other high school on Long Island, it's actually kind of lame that they're not better
don't you mean that Brentwood should have the best team on Long Island because they actually have the most boys.
right, and using that logic...
Brooklyn Tech should be the best in the country because they are the biggest and have the most boys.
If not, what do you mean?
i looked at the same report you obviously referenced. There are a bunch of city schools that are bigger, but of the schools that actually play serious lacrosse, Chaminade is substantially bigger and recruits kids to the school...don't think Brentwood has that luxury or the reputation for investing in their lacrosse program. The only other schools that have strong lax programs on that list and have anywhere close to the number of boys that Chaminade has is Sachem. Did you say any others genius?
Never referenced a report...
Chaminade does not recruit. Academics are first at Chaminade. Do well on the test and the student is accepted.
Responded to a false statement that Chaminade has 60% more boys than any other LI HS... fact checked and debunked.
There is the fact that Chaminade, over the past 5 years, has the second best average national ranking in the country. Only Haverford can claim better.
So, you who thinks Chaminade is lame because they are not better apparently can only turn to disparaging remarks rather than appreciating team excellence and consistency. You also obviously have a strong disdain for the facts.
1. Chaminade does recruit to say they don't is just not true.
2. The school has 1,700 boys, that's equivalent to Brentwood and if that's who you want to compare yourself to then that's lame too. Just shut up and let Chaminade stand on its own accomplishments, no need to come websites and constantly have to tell everyone how great the school is. Do you see any other high school patting itself on the back as much as Chaminade?
So why did they let the cheater in ?
Love chaminades model
No freshmen or sophs play varsity
They seem to do well
I don't understand why you would limit fresh/soph to JV team's. I think the best players should play in High School.
go play for public school if that's what you are looking for.
Chaminade is about education first and age appropriate development in the classroom and on the field. What you don't realize is Chaminades kids and parents #1 goal is not to coach summer lacrosse after college like most travel parents want for their kids!
My question was not intended to put down private schools or somehow get into bashing summer lacrosse coaches, I was simply asking why even in an academic first institution you would limit someone's athletic development. If they are physically better and more skilled than a junior or senior why would they not be allowed to play. I read and understand academics first, but athletics is part of the package of being a well rounded, adjusted college ready young adult upon graduation. What is age appropriate, one year, two years, how do we determine that exactly? If it is one year, why can't a sophomore play with a junior? How can a junior possibly compete with a senior? What message is being sent to the junior or senior that is first string even though there might be better players on the JV.
Why is the concept of waiting your turn so hard to grasp? Every boy going to Chaminade is fully aware of the policy, and still they go. It's having respect for the system, and your elders/upperclassmen. All of the parents crying about how much better there Freshman son is, are full of crap. They might have a better stick but the physical and mental development isn't there (unless your the kid thats cheating by doing 8th grade over, personally, Cham is lowering it's standards by allowing that kid enrollment). Very rarely does a underclassmen actually lead there kid to a championship, usually they are just another number on the field, and a reason for mommy and daddy to brag. Unless a team is in desperate need for players because they don't have enough kids to field a team, 7th, 8th,and 9th, graders should never be on a varsity squad, and only the truly exceptional 10th graders should be allowed, if there are enough upperclassmen available. Cham is doing the right thing, if you don't like the right thing stay in your public and cry to your coach, you'll get what you want
OMG, totally missed the point again, I don't have a dog in the fight, don't have an agenda, don't have a clue why 7th, 8th graders and holdbacks would be entered into the conversation. It was a simple question, if you do have that rare 9th or 10th grader who can step in and play right away(they are physically and mentally ready to play) why should they be limited because of their age or grade. If it is something the school has always done, I guess that will have to be reason enough, since no one wants to explain why it is that way. Just because someone asks a question that differs from your point of view, that doesn't make them wrong.
So why did they let the cheater in ?
Please speak to the question.
The short answer is: because they recruit.
I guess you didn't read the part about respecting upperclassmen/elders, waiting your turn, respect for the system, things you obviously do not posses.
OMG, totally missed the point again, I don't have a dog in the fight, don't have an agenda, don't have a clue why 7th, 8th graders and holdbacks would be entered into the conversation. It was a simple question, if you do have that rare 9th or 10th grader who can step in and play right away(they are physically and mentally ready to play) why should they be limited because of their age or grade. If it is something the school has always done, I guess that will have to be reason enough, since no one wants to explain why it is that way. Just because someone asks a question that differs from your point of view, that doesn't make them wrong.
My kids go to public schools and i love what Chaminade does, everybody knows the policy going in and I think it shows that Chaminade is not all about championships. By having the freshman play together they are bonding as a team since they all came from different towns and different club team same as the 10th graders - if they did move up the younger kids it might help them win more but at the expense of an older kids playing time. I feel Chaminade is a total four year experience not a one season experience. It was not the route my kids wanted to take but a great option for those that do. And again everybody knows the deal when they sign up
aren't they physically and mentally ready to play with kids the same age? why don't you simply call the school, ask for the A.D. and ask the question?
aren't they physically and mentally ready to play with kids the same age? why don't you simply call the school, ask for the A.D. and ask the question?
If they are physically and mentally ready to play at the Varsity level as a freshman, they would be physically and mentally ready to play with freshmen and sophomores on the JV, I think that goes without saying, but thank you Mr. Obvious.
Don't need to call the A.D., just figured with the wealth of knowledge and expertise on this site, someone would answer other than "they have always done it that way"
Maintaining the status quo is what shaped America
So is this thread about 2015 spring lacrosse? Really? There is a reason when I go to this website I get disgusted at the mentality. Just enjoy the game and your kids.
CSH 9--Manhasset 7 uhoh. Indians fading??
I guess you didn't read the part about respecting upperclassmen/elders, waiting your turn, respect for the system, things you obviously do not posses.
Looks like YOU do not posses those qualities.
Sir, speak to the question, please.
CSH 9--Manhasset 7 uhoh. Indians fading??
Fading? Don't know if you can say that after 1 game? See where they are, or any team for that matter after 5 games.
Manhasset could not win a face off...
If telling a kid we want you to take and entrance exam and do well enough to be accepted and then do 3 hours of homework every night and you may or may not make the team is considered recruiting then yes they recruit.
Most of the people complaining are those whos kids took the exam and did not get in and when mommy and daddy called to complain and tried to get them accepted and were told get lost by the Brothers who can care less about winning any game. BUT THEY KEPT IT ALL A SECRET from anyone else in their town just in case they didn't get in. Then they run around bashing.
WM scrimmaged miller place yesterday. Cold but WM looked pretty good.
WM first real test Saturday morning against Chaminade...
If telling a kid we want you to take and entrance exam and do well enough to be accepted and then do 3 hours of homework every night and you may or may not make the team is considered recruiting then yes they recruit.
Most of the people complaining are those whos kids took the exam and did not get in and when mommy and daddy called to complain and tried to get them accepted and were told get lost by the Brothers who can care less about winning any game. BUT THEY KEPT IT ALL A SECRET from anyone else in their town just in case they didn't get in. Then they run around bashing.
Now only Chaminade kids do homework? Hysterical
[quote=Anonymous]I guess you didn't read the part about respecting upperclassmen/elders, waiting your turn, respect for the system, things you obviously do not posses.
Maintaining the status quo is what shaped America. Just because something works doesn't mean it can't be improved upon. I do have respect for systems and I can also spell possess.
If telling a kid we want you to take and entrance exam and do well enough to be accepted and then do 3 hours of homework every night and you may or may not make the team is considered recruiting then yes they recruit.
Most of the people complaining are those whos kids took the exam and did not get in and when mommy and daddy called to complain and tried to get them accepted and were told get lost by the Brothers who can care less about winning any game. BUT THEY KEPT IT ALL A SECRET from anyone else in their town just in case they didn't get in. Then they run around bashing.
Now only Chaminade kids do homework? Hysterical
Chaminade is the best, by far, the best, in every respect
CSH 9--Manhasset 7 uhoh. Indians fading??
Fading? Don't know if you can say that after 1 game? See where they are, or any team for that matter after 5 games.
As usual the past couple of years, Set will beat the Roslyns and Hewlets easily but will struggle to win any games against more disciplined and athletic teams. They have enough fluff in the schedule to finish above 500 but with none or very few high quality wins.
[quote=tennesseejed]CSH 9--Manhasset 7 uhoh. Indians fading??
Fading? Don't know if you can say that after 1 game? See where they are, or any team for that matter after 5 games.
As usual the past couple of years, Set will beat the Roslyns and Hewlets easily but will struggle to win any games against more disciplined and athletic teams. They have enough fluff in the schedule to finish above 500 but with none or very few high quality wins.
Guess you haven't seen this year's schedule.
They are best in all respects, plus they have the hottest girls, oops! My bad. That social part of high school not happening. But they do have 3 hrs of homework every night and great lax.
Looking to all of you Varsity parents who have been around the block a few times. I have heard on the sidelines talk of showcases that did not cut it. It is obvious to me, a parent of a JV player, that you have all figured out the hard way, which showcases your son should have applied for and which ones he played in and were just not what you thought they would be.
Your opinions please on:
Fab Frosh vs. U15 National Championships
We all know Chaminade kids (and parents) are far superior to the rest of LI. Get over it and deal with defeat.
Looking to all of you Varsity parents who have been around the block a few times. I have heard on the sidelines talk of showcases that did not cut it. It is obvious to me, a parent of a JV player, that you have all figured out the hard way, which showcases your son should have applied for and which ones he played in and were just not what you thought they would be.
Your opinions please on:
Fab Frosh vs. U15 National Championships
They are all a joke unless you have made contact with coaches before attending
Looking to all of you Varsity parents who have been around the block a few times. I have heard on the sidelines talk of showcases that did not cut it. It is obvious to me, a parent of a JV player, that you have all figured out the hard way, which showcases your son should have applied for and which ones he played in and were just not what you thought they would be.
Your opinions please on:
Fab Frosh vs. U15 National Championships
They are all a joke unless you have made contact with coaches before attending
Not true! My son was recruited by several top D1 programs out of Maverick. Was on Varsity, but hardly stepped on the field
[quote=tennesseejed]CSH 9--Manhasset 7 uhoh. Indians fading??
Fading? Don't know if you can say that after 1 game? See where they are, or any team for that matter after 5 games.
As usual the past couple of years, Set will beat the Roslyns and Hewlets easily but will struggle to win any games against more disciplined and athletic teams. They have enough fluff in the schedule to finish above 500 but with none or very few high quality wins.
Guess you haven't seen this year's schedule.
Let me define flufff. North shore, friends, Hewlett, Roslyn, plainedge, southside, bethpage. If these are not 10 goal wins then the RIP set lax. Regardless of the fact that these are required matches in the weak Nassau B conference, that's 7 automatic wins out of 15 games on the schedule. That's fluff. The rest of the match ups are high quality but that's only half the schedule.
You tell me one public school on LI just one that does the workload Chaminade does ??? And by the way you do bad in a class you fail no matter how good you are in a sport or how friendly your parents are with the teachers. They don't push you through or pad grades so they can get an award or win games
Please take your chaminade (king of all things) conversation elsewhere. It has no place on a lax site, lets get back to lax.
St Anthony's is a sports machine, Chaminade is an academic machine. Don't fool yourself given the 2 choices you would be crazy not to send your son to Chaminade. They take care of their own especially with internships and employment opportunities after college
St A's academics are as good if not better and their football and lax is always better.
I agree take it out of here. no one gives a rats [lacrosse]
You tell me one public school on LI just one that does the workload Chaminade does ??? And by the way you do bad in a class you fail no matter how good you are in a sport or how friendly your parents are with the teachers. They don't push you through or pad grades so they can get an award or win games
Overall the curriculum is weak at Chaminade. They create a rigorous schedule but its not challenging at all and does in no way prepare you for the rigorous college curriculum you face at some the elite schools. Many students who take AP in public schools will actually be using the same text books as they do in college. There are plenty of schools on LI that offer a much more difficult and advanced education experience. Jericho, Manhasset, Wheatly, Syosset, and Great Neck South, and CSH just to name a few. Look at graduating class and the numbers that go to Ivy and Elite institutions. Remember they are working with the pool of students that is dealt them based on the boundaries of their borders. Unlike the Catholics like Chaminade that have the luxury of having students from all over attend. Chaminade isn't for everyone and either are publics. To stand on a podium and try and preach how elite your school just exposes and allows for people to use facts and data to back up what they are saying.
St Anthony's is a sports machine, Chaminade is an academic machine. Don't fool yourself given the 2 choices you would be crazy not to send your son to Chaminade. They take care of their own especially with internships and employment opportunities after college
St A's academics are as good if not better and their football and lax is always better.
Anyone who believes that their academics is better is a parent of a student who goes there. As a former student of St A I can assure you that they are more concerned with the sports program. There's nothing wrong with that. You just need to be properly informed before you attend
you fail to mention the kids who do not pass the test but after after a quick parent call are somehow magically accepted to the call..happens for a FACT..the holier than thou mantra is an illusion at best
Do you know how to get a St. A's grad off of your front porch?
An oldie but goodie...Pay for the pizza...
Ok. Enough with Chaminade and SA. They are both great and alway will be. Let's move onto other topics. There's dozens of other schools .
Games Canceled for tomorrow yet?????
Today's game was just canceled.
St Anthony's is a sports machine, Chaminade is an academic machine. Don't fool yourself given the 2 choices you would be crazy not to send your son to Chaminade. They take care of their own especially with internships and employment opportunities after college
St A's academics are as good if not better and their football and lax is always better.
Anyone who believes that their academics is better is a parent of a student who goes there. As a former student of St A I can assure you that they are more concerned with the sports program. There's nothing wrong with that. You just need to be properly informed before you attend
I completely disagree with your "There's nothing wrong with that" conclusion. It's supposed to be an academic instituion first and foremost, not a sports academy ala IMG. If what you say is true about the priority of sports over academics, then there is everything wrong about that.
Ok. Enough with Chaminade and SA. They are both great and alway will be. Let's move onto other topics. There's dozens of other schools .
There are no other schools - everything else is "noise" if your kid goes to St. A's or Chaminade.
you fail to mention the kids who do not pass the test but after after a quick parent call are somehow magically accepted to the call..happens for a FACT..the holier than thou mantra is an illusion at best
I think Chaminade produces perfectly average young men
Last winter I watched Sayville not beat WI. I don't think the score was even close. WI does field a B team. My be they beat the B team.
you fail to mention the kids who do not pass the test but after after a quick parent call are somehow magically accepted to the call..happens for a FACT..the holier than thou mantra is an illusion at best
I think Chaminade produces perfectly average young men
What else would an average man say. It's not a matter of if you go to college, it's where you go to college. Can't say that about half the public schools on the island. Ours is vamping up its vocational courses for that reason alone. Nothing wrong with either but I beg to differ on the average remark. Most of them are above average academically.
you fail to mention the kids who do not pass the test but after after a quick parent call are somehow magically accepted to the call..happens for a FACT..the holier than thou mantra is an illusion at best
I think Chaminade produces perfectly average young men
What else would an average man say. It's not a matter of if you go to college, it's where you go to college. Can't say that about half the public schools on the island. Ours is vamping up its vocational courses for that reason alone. Nothing wrong with either but I beg to differ on the average remark. Most of them are above average academically.
Eh. Seen better, seen worse. Nothing special. Plenty of better schools on the Island - athletically and academically.
you fail to mention the kids who do not pass the test but after after a quick parent call are somehow magically accepted to the call..happens for a FACT..the holier than thou mantra is an illusion at best
I think Chaminade produces perfectly average young men
What else would an average man say. It's not a matter of if you go to college, it's where you go to college. Can't say that about half the public schools on the island. Ours is vamping up its vocational courses for that reason alone. Nothing wrong with either but I beg to differ on the average remark. Most of them are above average academically.
Eh. Seen better, seen worse. Nothing special. Plenty of better schools on the Island - athletically and academically.
you obviously haven't seen much. Nothing beats Chaminade academically but you can keep telling yourself that.
you fail to mention the kids who do not pass the test but after after a quick parent call are somehow magically accepted to the call..happens for a FACT..the holier than thou mantra is an illusion at best
I think Chaminade produces perfectly average young men
What else would an average man say. It's not a matter of if you go to college, it's where you go to college. Can't say that about half the public schools on the island. Ours is vamping up its vocational courses for that reason alone. Nothing wrong with either but I beg to differ on the average remark. Most of them are above average academically.
Eh. Seen better, seen worse. Nothing special. Plenty of better schools on the Island - athletically and academically.
what's better than Chaminade academically?
you fail to mention the kids who do not pass the test but after after a quick parent call are somehow magically accepted to the call..happens for a FACT..the holier than thou mantra is an illusion at best
I think Chaminade produces perfectly average young men
What else would an average man say. It's not a matter of if you go to college, it's where you go to college. Can't say that about half the public schools on the island. Ours is vamping up its vocational courses for that reason alone. Nothing wrong with either but I beg to differ on the average remark. Most of them are above average academically.
Eh. Seen better, seen worse. Nothing special. Plenty of better schools on the Island - athletically and academically.
what's better than Chaminade academically?
We all get it. You love Chaminade. Feel free to start a Chaminade thread and talk it up all you want. This thread will get back to the 2015 Boys lacrosse season.
you fail to mention the kids who do not pass the test but after after a quick parent call are somehow magically accepted to the call..happens for a FACT..the holier than thou mantra is an illusion at best
I think Chaminade produces perfectly average young men
What else would an average man say. It's not a matter of if you go to college, it's where you go to college. Can't say that about half the public schools on the island. Ours is vamping up its vocational courses for that reason alone. Nothing wrong with either but I beg to differ on the average remark. Most of them are above average academically.
Eh. Seen better, seen worse. Nothing special. Plenty of better schools on the Island - athletically and academically.
what's better than Chaminade academically?
We all get it. You love Chaminade. Feel free to start a Chaminade thread and talk it up all you want. This thread will get back to the 2015 Boys lacrosse season.
I beat you to it. Chaminade has it's own dedicated thread. Take your Flyers conversations there.
Quite honestly, most Catholic schools are weak academically. Inflated GPAs with weak SATs show that. Give lip service to academics, but put money behind sports.
A public school guy, but Chaminade is a great school. For anyone to say their academics is weak is jealous or just doesn't know what they are talking about. Every boy and I mean every boy that I know that went to Chaminade was a great kid. Not to say that there are not bad apples that went through there, but all the kids that I know personally were great kids.
I know less kids that went to St. Anthony's (not all of them were on the same level as the kids I know that went to Chaminade) but for what it is worth I had a cousin that transfered from Huntingon to St. A's than back to Huntington. She told me there was the same problems at St. As that there was at Huntington and her classes at Huntington were harder and more rigorous.
I think we are lucky on Long Island that most of our public schools have the offerings of a great education. It is really you get what you put into it.
No one is saying anything about the quality of the young men. Its the quality of the education that is lacking. No jealousy here. My son is on the track to attend an Ivy on academics alone and yes from a public school. As for not knowing what I am talking about, I can actually give you facts and data to back what I am saying.
Its not about trying to defend the decision of sending my child to an institution that has inferior academics like many parents of Chaminade students do. Its about making those who are constantly preaching how good their school is without facts understand that the school their child attends is not infallible and Ivory towers do come tumbling down.
With staggeringly low acceptance rates at the Ivys, I don't think anyone can say they are on track to go to an Ivy. Plenty of straight A, perfect SATs get rejected.
Actually someone can say they are on track if they have sat in front of admissions director and an academic adviser and taken their PSAT as a freshman to create an AI. Happens a lot and those who are in the process can attest to it.
You said academics only. Why would an ivy admissions officer speak with an underclass man about AI?
You said academics only. Why would an ivy admissions officer speak with an underclass man about AI?
Duh, maybe the kid is a standout lax player that the coach is recruiting.
You said academics only. Why would an ivy admissions officer speak with an underclass man about AI?
To clarify my earlier comment, my kid is in the process with a few Ivys and has had the AI conversation. So I'm familiar with the athlete/academic connection at those schools. But I wouldn't say my kid is on track "on academics alone" when I know that athletics is giving them an edge. When I read the original comment l took it to mean "my kid can get into Ivys without any athletic edge" and my point was with admit rates hovering near 10% for traditional applicants - that's not a realistic statement.
Guess you never have been involved in the process. As for my son's academics they are higher than a 4.0 and include many honors classes. Academically he is on track to attend an Ivy or even a NESCAC. What is so difficult about that. We have many friends who's children have attended elite schools and we have modeled the path my son is on after their children's. It helps he is an excellent lacrosse player so the process has been accelerated.
At the One Love Foundation Tournament on the St. Paul's campus in Maryland Garden City beats #12 ranked St. Paul's 12-11 in a hard fought back and forth battle in Maryland. Great job GC.
Guess you never have been involved in the process. As for my son's academics they are higher than a 4.0 and include many honors classes. Academically he is on track to attend an Ivy or even a NESCAC. What is so difficult about that. We have many friends who's children have attended elite schools and we have modeled the path my son is on after their children's. It helps he is an excellent lacrosse player so the process has been accelerated.
This post occurred at about the same time as your explanation to first hand knowledge of the process. I should have been clearer on the fact that lacrosse is in the mix regarding his admissions process.
Guess you never have been involved in the process. As for my son's academics they are higher than a 4.0 and include many honors classes. Academically he is on track to attend an Ivy or even a NESCAC. What is so difficult about that. We have many friends who's children have attended elite schools and we have modeled the path my son is on after their children's. It helps he is an excellent lacrosse player so the process has been accelerated.
That's my exact point. I am deep in the process at similar schools so I know very well what you are talking about. But I would never boast that my child is "on track for academics alone" when I know they are getting better treatment because of their athletics. I know too many non-recruits with great academic stats who get denied. IMO to not acknowledge the advantage an athlete with good grades has is a disservice to those kids.
Just saw your post. Seems like we r in agreement. Best of luck to your kid. Hope they get their dream school and can enjoy the rest of their high school career. I'm sure he's earned it!
With staggeringly low acceptance rates at the Ivys, I don't think anyone can say they are on track to go to an Ivy. Plenty of straight A, perfect SATs get rejected.
Rejection rate sky rockets, especially if your a White or Asian male. Ivies are all about race. It trumps everything. Best and brightest do not get in.
With staggeringly low acceptance rates at the Ivys, I don't think anyone can say they are on track to go to an Ivy. Plenty of straight A, perfect SATs get rejected.
Rejection rate sky rockets, especially if your a White or Asian male. Ivies are all about race. It trumps everything. Best and brightest do not get in.
the repression of the white male has gone on for too long - hang in there you white males, we shall overcome some day
Manhasset down by 1 to Boys Latin 5 to 4 at the start of 2nd half.
CSH 9--Manhasset 7 uhoh. Indians fading??
Fading? Don't know if you can say that after 1 game? See where they are, or any team for that matter after 5 games.
As usual the past couple of years, Set will beat the Roslyns and Hewlets easily but will struggle to win any games against more disciplined and athletic teams. They have enough fluff in the schedule to finish above 500 but with none or very few high quality wins.
Spot on. Set loses to boys Latin. Can't win the quality games. Move Tyler Dunne back to lefty attack where he'll score 4 or 5 goals a game. He's being wasted at middle.
Manhasset loses to Boys Latin 8 to 6. That's not bad since BL is considered one the best boys teams in the country
Manhasset loses to Boys Latin 8 to 6. That's not bad since BL is considered one the best boys teams in the country
BL way down this year. However, I do respect Manhasset for playing them, the game was not a blowout and although BL is no Haveford, the close score is definitely telling that Manhasset has a good team.
Any other scores today or were most games cancelled ? Wm-Chaminade, Smithtown East-Locust Valley, etc.
You people all need to get a life. You are clueless as to what your children really want to do.
Manhasset loses to Boys Latin 8 to 6. That's not bad since BL is considered one the best boys teams in the country
BL way down this year. However, I do respect Manhasset for playing them, the game was not a blowout and although BL is no Haveford, the close score is definitely telling that Manhasset has a good team.
Is it me? Or are these MIAA teams highly over-rated? These private schools pull/recruit the best players from all over the DMV area. Are loaded with re-class and hold backs and they can barely beat or lose to small LI public schools? How is that even possible? Garden City, a school with about 140 boys a grade, pulling from a small defined geographic area,beats St. Pauls. Sachem destroys Archbishop Spalding and Manhassett a school with about a 100 boys per grade,loses by two to BL? No disrespect to GC or Set, but they both lost recently to other LI publics. I think a little more attention should be paid to the LI publics. As a whole, this is where the best Lacrosse in the nation is being played.
Manhasset loses to Boys Latin 8 to 6. That's not bad since BL is considered one the best boys teams in the country
BL way down this year. However, I do respect Manhasset for playing them, the game was not a blowout and although BL is no Haveford, the close score is definitely telling that Manhasset has a good team.
Is it me? Or are these MIAA teams highly over-rated? These private schools pull/recruit the best players from all over the DMV area. Are loaded with re-class and hold backs and they can barely beat or lose to small LI public schools? How is that even possible? Garden City, a school with about 140 boys a grade, pulling from a small defined geographic area,beats St. Pauls. Sachem destroys Archbishop Spalding and Manhassett a school with about a 100 boys per grade,loses by two to BL? No disrespect to GC or Set, but they both lost recently to other LI publics. I think a little more attention should be paid to the LI publics. As a whole, this is where the best Lacrosse in the nation is being played.
The people who watch the sport for a living and make the polls don't back your assertions. The great majority of ranked high schools nationally are private schools. If Set had played BL last year, the score would have been 20-2 BL. Set was "lucky" to have missed that freight train by scheduling them this year after a ton of D1 committs had already graduated including Shack Stanwick - you may have heard of him. This year BL is way down and still managed a win against a Set team that should be better than last year. Nice try.
Manhasset loses to Boys Latin 8 to 6. That's not bad since BL is considered one the best boys teams in the country
BL way down this year. However, I do respect Manhasset for playing them, the game was not a blowout and although BL is no Haveford, the close score is definitely telling that Manhasset has a good team.
Is it me? Or are these MIAA teams highly over-rated? These private schools pull/recruit the best players from all over the DMV area. Are loaded with re-class and hold backs and they can barely beat or lose to small LI public schools? How is that even possible? Garden City, a school with about 140 boys a grade, pulling from a small defined geographic area,beats St. Pauls. Sachem destroys Archbishop Spalding and Manhassett a school with about a 100 boys per grade,loses by two to BL? No disrespect to GC or Set, but they both lost recently to other LI publics. I think a little more attention should be paid to the LI publics. As a whole, this is where the best Lacrosse in the nation is being played.
The people who watch the sport for a living and make the polls don't back your assertions. The great majority of ranked high schools nationally are private schools. If Set had played BL last year, the score would have been 20-2 BL. Set was "lucky" to have missed that freight train by scheduling them this year after a ton of D1 committs had already graduated including Shack Stanwick - you may have heard of him. This year BL is way down and still managed a win against a Set team that should be better than last year. Nice try.
Manhasset has a decent team, but certainly not the best the LI publics have to offer. WM,Syosset, SE and a few others would easily beat BL this year, the WM of two years ago would have been evenly matched with last year's BL. Easy there before you count LI publics out!
Manhasset loses to Boys Latin 8 to 6. That's not bad since BL is considered one the best boys teams in the country
BL way down this year. However, I do respect Manhasset for playing them, the game was not a blowout and although BL is no Haveford, the close score is definitely telling that Manhasset has a good team.
Is it me? Or are these MIAA teams highly over-rated? These private schools pull/recruit the best players from all over the DMV area. Are loaded with re-class and hold backs and they can barely beat or lose to small LI public schools? How is that even possible? Garden City, a school with about 140 boys a grade, pulling from a small defined geographic area,beats St. Pauls. Sachem destroys Archbishop Spalding and Manhassett a school with about a 100 boys per grade,loses by two to BL? No disrespect to GC or Set, but they both lost recently to other LI publics. I think a little more attention should be paid to the LI publics. As a whole, this is where the best Lacrosse in the nation is being played.
The people who watch the sport for a living and make the polls don't back your assertions. The great majority of ranked high schools nationally are private schools. If Set had played BL last year, the score would have been 20-2 BL. Set was "lucky" to have missed that freight train by scheduling them this year after a ton of D1 committs had already graduated including Shack Stanwick - you may have heard of him. This year BL is way down and still managed a win against a Set team that should be better than last year. Nice try.
nobody watches boys high school lacrosse for a living, they are hacks trying to make a name for themselves by tweeting BS about the schools they know or have heard of and to discount this years results because in your opinion last year would have been a blow out is silly, the point the original poster was making is still valid, how can these schools with such large areas to pull from always be ranked so highly and then look so bad when up against public schools. Just because Ty and Casey say something does not make it a fact.
Manhasset loses to Boys Latin 8 to 6. That's not bad since BL is considered one the best boys teams in the country
BL way down this year. However, I do respect Manhasset for playing them, the game was not a blowout and although BL is no Haveford, the close score is definitely telling that Manhasset has a good team.
Is it me? Or are these MIAA teams highly over-rated? These private schools pull/recruit the best players from all over the DMV area. Are loaded with re-class and hold backs and they can barely beat or lose to small LI public schools? How is that even possible? Garden City, a school with about 140 boys a grade, pulling from a small defined geographic area,beats St. Pauls. Sachem destroys Archbishop Spalding and Manhassett a school with about a 100 boys per grade,loses by two to BL? No disrespect to GC or Set, but they both lost recently to other LI publics. I think a little more attention should be paid to the LI publics. As a whole, this is where the best Lacrosse in the nation is being played.
The people who watch the sport for a living and make the polls don't back your assertions. The great majority of ranked high schools nationally are private schools. If Set had played BL last year, the score would have been 20-2 BL. Set was "lucky" to have missed that freight train by scheduling them this year after a ton of D1 committs had already graduated including Shack Stanwick - you may have heard of him. This year BL is way down and still managed a win against a Set team that should be better than last year. Nice try.
nobody watches boys high school lacrosse for a living, they are hacks trying to make a name for themselves by tweeting BS about the schools they know or have heard of and to discount this years results because in your opinion last year would have been a blow out is silly, the point the original poster was making is still valid, how can these schools with such large areas to pull from always be ranked so highly and then look so bad when up against public schools. Just because Ty and Casey say something does not make it a fact.
Why do you think St Pauls and Boys Latin draw from a huge geographic region? They are both day schools like Chaminade or St. Anthony's. At the very most, probably a 15-20 mile radius. I could see your point for some of the prep boarding schools where they do draw nationally but not the day schools. I think you are exaggerating their reach because you are unfamiliar with the differences between boarding schools and private day schools.
Game of the Week on kudda.com Manhasset v. Boys Latin
Manhasset loses to Boys Latin 8 to 6. That's not bad since BL is considered one the best boys teams in the country
BL way down this year. However, I do respect Manhasset for playing them, the game was not a blowout and although BL is no Haveford, the close score is definitely telling that Manhasset has a good team.
Is it me? Or are these MIAA teams highly over-rated? These private schools pull/recruit the best players from all over the DMV area. Are loaded with re-class and hold backs and they can barely beat or lose to small LI public schools? How is that even possible? Garden City, a school with about 140 boys a grade, pulling from a small defined geographic area,beats St. Pauls. Sachem destroys Archbishop Spalding and Manhassett a school with about a 100 boys per grade,loses by two to BL? No disrespect to GC or Set, but they both lost recently to other LI publics. I think a little more attention should be paid to the LI publics. As a whole, this is where the best Lacrosse in the nation is being played.
The people who watch the sport for a living and make the polls don't back your assertions. The great majority of ranked high schools nationally are private schools. If Set had played BL last year, the score would have been 20-2 BL. Set was "lucky" to have missed that freight train by scheduling them this year after a ton of D1 committs had already graduated including Shack Stanwick - you may have heard of him. This year BL is way down and still managed a win against a Set team that should be better than last year. Nice try.
nobody watches boys high school lacrosse for a living, they are hacks trying to make a name for themselves by tweeting BS about the schools they know or have heard of and to discount this years results because in your opinion last year would have been a blow out is silly, the point the original poster was making is still valid, how can these schools with such large areas to pull from always be ranked so highly and then look so bad when up against public schools. Just because Ty and Casey say something does not make it a fact.
Why do you think St Pauls and Boys Latin draw from a huge geographic region? They are both day schools like Chaminade or St. Anthony's. At the very most, probably a 15-20 mile radius. I could see your point for some of the prep boarding schools where they do draw nationally but not the day schools. I think you are exaggerating their reach because you are unfamiliar with the differences between boarding schools and private day schools.
thank you for the definition on a day school, the condescending explanation was appreciated. public schools can draw from kids within their boarders not whomever wants to go there.
If you knew anything about private schools, you would know that not everybody who wants to go, can go. There are admissions tests, interviews, tuition etc. It's not just a grab bag. Plus, in the Baltimore area (MIAA) there are about a dozen great private schools within a 25 mile radius competing for the same talent and in the process diluting the talent pool for any individual school. So, think about a dozen Chaminades in Nassau and Western Suffolk competing for the talent. Point being that the MIAA privates don't have it so easy in terms of assembling talent - they are just good at developing and coaching the talent that they get and 99 times out of 100 will beat any NY public despite their challenges of putting teams together. You can say what you want about the NY publics but they can't match up with the upper echelon of the MIAA. The only league that can possibly compare is the NE West 1 - another private league with Deerfield, Brunswick, Avon and Salisbury. The NY publics couldn't compete with those schools either - trust me on that.
CSH 9--Manhasset 7 uhoh. Indians fading??
Fading? Don't know if you can say that after 1 game? See where they are, or any team for that matter after 5 games.
As usual the past couple of years, Set will beat the Roslyns and Hewlets easily but will struggle to win any games against more disciplined and athletic teams. They have enough fluff in the schedule to finish above 500 but with none or very few high quality wins.
Spot on. Set loses to boys Latin. Can't win the quality games. Move Tyler Dunne back to lefty attack where he'll score 4 or 5 goals a game. He's being wasted at middle.
sad but true, until Set makes fundamental changes in the program they will wrestle with mediocrity. The dream of coaching your son and his classmates will become a nightmare.
If you knew anything about private schools, you would know that not everybody who wants to go, can go. There are admissions tests, interviews, tuition etc. It's not just a grab bag. Plus, in the Baltimore area (MIAA) there are about a dozen great private schools within a 25 mile radius competing for the same talent and in the process diluting the talent pool for any individual school. So, think about a dozen Chaminades in Nassau and Western Suffolk competing for the talent. Point being that the MIAA privates don't have it so easy in terms of assembling talent - they are just good at developing and coaching the talent that they get and 99 times out of 100 will beat any NY public despite their challenges of putting teams together. You can say what you want about the NY publics but they can't match up with the upper echelon of the MIAA. The only league that can possibly compare is the NE West 1 - another private league with Deerfield, Brunswick, Avon and Salisbury. The NY publics couldn't compete with those schools either - trust me on that.
Thank you again for your clarity - 99 times out of 100 except LI went 2 out of 3 yesterday - and yes I can imagine a dozen Chaminade's in Nassau especially if there were no competitive public school leagues in Nassau County.
If Baltimore had great public schools and very high property taxes I am sure that the public schools down there would be a more viable options but it is what it is, low property taxes private school options and OK lacrosse.
If you knew anything about private schools, you would know that not everybody who wants to go, can go. There are admissions tests, interviews, tuition etc. It's not just a grab bag. Plus, in the Baltimore area (MIAA) there are about a dozen great private schools within a 25 mile radius competing for the same talent and in the process diluting the talent pool for any individual school. So, think about a dozen Chaminades in Nassau and Western Suffolk competing for the talent. Point being that the MIAA privates don't have it so easy in terms of assembling talent - they are just good at developing and coaching the talent that they get and 99 times out of 100 will beat any NY public despite their challenges of putting teams together. You can say what you want about the NY publics but they can't match up with the upper echelon of the MIAA. The only league that can possibly compare is the NE West 1 - another private league with Deerfield, Brunswick, Avon and Salisbury. The NY publics couldn't compete with those schools either - trust me on that.
Well 99 out of 100 nearly happened 3 times this weekend... Too funny.
Manhasset loses to Boys Latin 8 to 6. That's not bad since BL is considered one the best boys teams in the country
BL way down this year. However, I do respect Manhasset for playing them, the game was not a blowout and although BL is no Haveford, the close score is definitely telling that Manhasset has a good team.
Is it me? Or are these MIAA teams highly over-rated? These private schools pull/recruit the best players from all over the DMV area. Are loaded with re-class and hold backs and they can barely beat or lose to small LI public schools? How is that even possible? Garden City, a school with about 140 boys a grade, pulling from a small defined geographic area,beats St. Pauls. Sachem destroys Archbishop Spalding and Manhassett a school with about a 100 boys per grade,loses by two to BL? No disrespect to GC or Set, but they both lost recently to other LI publics. I think a little more attention should be paid to the LI publics. As a whole, this is where the best Lacrosse in the nation is being played.
The people who watch the sport for a living and make the polls don't back your assertions. The great majority of ranked high schools nationally are private schools. If Set had played BL last year, the score would have been 20-2 BL. Set was "lucky" to have missed that freight train by scheduling them this year after a ton of D1 committs had already graduated including Shack Stanwick - you may have heard of him. This year BL is way down and still managed a win against a Set team that should be better than last year. Nice try.
Who is it that watches HS lax for a living exactly? Relax, your MIAA school nearly got beat by a very small public school, that recently was beaten by an even smaller public school. Pound for pound the MIAA isn't even close, your "power house private school" should be beating these little public schools by 20, year in and year out. Please.
Spalding losing to any decent team is to be expected, they are a B school playing in the A conference because 15 years ago they had two exceptional offensive players and a decent basketball team and wanted to expand facilities. They should not be in this discussion. Most of the MIAA schools are very small also, would be classed 1A or 2A if they were public schools. It sounds like there were two good early season games. New [lacrosse] won a close one, Maryland won a close one. Why can't that be enough?
Spalding losing to any decent team is to be expected, they are a B school playing in the A conference because 15 years ago they had two exceptional offensive players and a decent basketball team and wanted to expand facilities. They should not be in this discussion. Most of the MIAA schools are very small also, would be classed 1A or 2A if they were public schools. It sounds like there were two good early season games. New [lacrosse] won a close one, Maryland won a close one. Why can't that be enough?
Not sure if you are the same poster or another pathetic MIAA apologist but you went from sublime to silly. MIAA can not lose to LI teams until they do and then the excuses. silly boy
If you knew anything about private schools, you would know that not everybody who wants to go, can go. There are admissions tests, interviews, tuition etc. It's not just a grab bag. Plus, in the Baltimore area (MIAA) there are about a dozen great private schools within a 25 mile radius competing for the same talent and in the process diluting the talent pool for any individual school. So, think about a dozen Chaminades in Nassau and Western Suffolk competing for the talent. Point being that the MIAA privates don't have it so easy in terms of assembling talent - they are just good at developing and coaching the talent that they get and 99 times out of 100 will beat any NY public despite their challenges of putting teams together. You can say what you want about the NY publics but they can't match up with the upper echelon of the MIAA. The only league that can possibly compare is the NE West 1 - another private league with Deerfield, Brunswick, Avon and Salisbury. The NY publics couldn't compete with those schools either - trust me on that.
Well 99 out of 100 nearly happened 3 times this weekend... Too funny.
And most of those private school teams are stacked with 19 year olds.
GC 12, St Paul's 11 ... I'm curious if this clown from last week would like to share more of his brilliant predictions/ insight.
If you a bragging about them beating GC you should be worried. GC is down, way down this year and years to come. Their attack is a mess and scored 4 of the 7 goals against syossets defense. Combined they weigh 200 lbs. One kid has blinders and just wants to score and the other 2 if hit will quit but draw penalties because the refs feel bad for them. Syosset needs to play a real schedule. GC is in for a long year.
GC 12, St Paul's 11 ... I'm curious if this clown from last week would like to share more of his brilliant predictions/ insight.
If you a bragging about them beating GC you should be worried. GC is down, way down this year and years to come. Their attack is a mess and scored 4 of the 7 goals against syossets defense. Combined they weigh 200 lbs. One kid has blinders and just wants to score and the other 2 if hit will quit but draw penalties because the refs feel bad for them. Syosset needs to play a real schedule. GC is in for a long year.
News of GC's demise seems a bit premature.
I heard Northport beat up on HHH and Kellenberg on Saturday
GC 12, St Paul's 11 ... I'm curious if this clown from last week would like to share more of his brilliant predictions/ insight.
If you a bragging about them beating GC you should be worried. GC is down, way down this year and years to come. Their attack is a mess and scored 4 of the 7 goals against syossets defense. Combined they weigh 200 lbs. One kid has blinders and just wants to score and the other 2 if hit will quit but draw penalties because the refs feel bad for them. Syosset needs to play a real schedule. GC is in for a long year.
GC with a nice win. Looks like the young guys can play. Don't count them just yet. Others should take notice. The younger players belong . Think twice before you make predictions after 1 game.
Off the Island, heard Darien HS lost to Deerfield in a game situation scrimmage at Darien yesterday.
Duke, Brown and Princeton think the young guys can play too as evidenced by their early commits!
Duke, Brown and Princeton think the young guys can play too as evidenced by their early commits!
The Syosset D thinks they can"t as evident by the score
Off the Island, heard Darien HS lost to Deerfield in a game situation scrimmage at Darien yesterday.
Again as they should Prep school vs public HS.
This is like Chris Rock Special where we are praising things that should happen and not just the 'pectacular
I am sick to the stomach after reading that article.
Spalding losing to any decent team is to be expected, they are a B school playing in the A conference because 15 years ago they had two exceptional offensive players and a decent basketball team and wanted to expand facilities. They should not be in this discussion. Most of the MIAA schools are very small also, would be classed 1A or 2A if they were public schools. It sounds like there were two good early season games. New [lacrosse] won a close one, Maryland won a close one. Why can't that be enough?
Not sure if you are the same poster or another pathetic MIAA apologist but you went from sublime to silly. MIAA can not lose to LI teams until they do and then the excuses. silly boy
I am neither, I live in Maryland, but my kids attend public school, I was just trying to ingest some logic into the conversation, something that is sorely missing.
I am sick to the stomach after reading that article.
just read the article for the first time and I am so confused. Are kids really allowed to repeat 8th grade and then play against kids a year younger then them? It doesn't seem fair, why don't people say anything about this????
I am sick to the stomach after reading that article.
The average D1 boy RECEIVING money in college is getting about $15,000. SO you spend $35,000 for an extra year in HS to get $60,000k in college? don't forget that he will be going to a $50k school and you probably have invested 10 years of travel at $3,500 a year which is another $35k so net net you get NO ATHLETIC money in college?
I am sick to the stomach after reading that article.
I would personally shun a player who has engaged in this practice....pathetic!
Where is the shame of these parents?
Can there really a new crop of parents at this age group who have no clue about the reclass craze?
oh my goodness...you would shun them!!! pretty sure they wouldn't know you or anyone else existed
Can there really a new crop of parents at this age group who have no clue about the reclass craze?
Can there really a new crop of parents at this age group who have no clue about the reclass craze?
New to the club lacrosse scene but I am a veteran of the club soccer scene.
This is a real eye opener and as an outsider looking in, I am really scared for you lacrosse parents. I am sure Larry or Larry can attest to this....right La-La?!?!
Can there really a new crop of parents at this age group who have no clue about the reclass craze?
Can there really a new crop of parents at this age group who have no clue about the reclass craze?
New to the club lacrosse scene but I am a veteran of the club soccer scene.
This is a real eye opener and as an outsider looking in, I am really scared for you lacrosse parents. I am sure Larry or Larry can attest to this....right La-La?!?!
Different sport , same scenario.
I heard Northport beat up on HHH and Kellenberg on Saturday
They also lost.
The average D1 boy RECEIVING money in college is getting about $15,000. SO you spend $35,000 for an extra year in HS to get $60,000k in college? don't forget that he will be going to a $50k school and you probably have invested 10 years of travel at $3,500 a year which is another $35k so net net you get NO ATHLETIC money in college?
you would be spending the money somewhere if not on lacrosse - a kid that decided to not go to sleep away camp to stay home and play travel lacrosse saves $10,000 - $15,000 a year so the net savings is $6,500 - $11,500 over 10 years that is some real money. My family and I have loved the summer lacrosse circuit and would do it again over a couple of trips to Disney, Europe or cruises that would all have cost us the same as a year of travel. I doubt anybody has said " we are not going to play travel lacrosse" and then put that money in the college fund.
Most people chasing the dream are doing it for admissions to a college that they might not be able to get into without the support of the lacrosse coach and probably could not have gotten into even if all the money was spent on tutors. I would bet that the additional earnings over the lifetime of the kid that gets into an Ivy league over a very good school would more then make up for the cost spent on summer travel if it was lacrosse that put them over the top to be admitted. Any parent that would not do anything (including reclassifying) to help their kid get into a better school is crazy. IMHO
I heard Northport beat up on HHH and Kellenberg on Saturday
They also lost.
Hhh e or w and who won/lost?
Northport changed their attack line this week so they should have better results. Hard for them to replace their UNC attackman.
Northport changed their attack line this week so they should have better results. Hard for them to replace their UNC attackman.
I heard Northport changed their parents this week so their crowd at their game should have better results. See how it sounds.
Northport changed their attack line this week so they should have better results. Hard for them to replace their UNC attackman.
I heard Northport changed their parents this week so their crowd at their game should have better results. See how it sounds.
confused by the first post, how do you change up your attack if you have not played a game yet? and confused by the second post as well, NP parents don't seem to be any worse then the rest of us
I'll explain the second post.
It's not cool to say the attack basically sucked and will be replaced. Those kids will catch wind and as I said 1000 times this forum is not about singling out individuals. I wanted the poster to see how that type of post can be hurtful. Probably why you felt the need to defend the NP parents because it's disparaging.
Perfect, cannot agree more. STOP picking on kids. With all the anti bullying nonsense out there some people just can't stop. Didn't your mom ever tell you "if you have nothing to say, say nothing"
Pequa v. Cham today ... any predictions?
should be another great one!
Pequa v. Cham today ... any predictions?
should be another great one!
Pequa by 10
Pequa v. Cham today ... any predictions?
should be another great one!
Pequa by 10
2010 03/24 CHS W 9 – 5 Massapequa
2011 03/23 CHS W 14 – 8 Massapequa
2012 03/21 CHS W 10 – 9 OT Massapequa
2013 03/21 CHS W 9 – 5 Massapequa
2014 03/26 CHS W 7 – 4 Massapequa (Pequa = State Champs)
2015 More of the same
Who is the FOGO for Chaminade ?
Pequa v. Cham today ... any predictions?
should be another great one!
Pequa by 10
2010 03/24 CHS W 9 – 5 Massapequa
2011 03/23 CHS W 14 – 8 Massapequa
2012 03/21 CHS W 10 – 9 OT Massapequa
2013 03/21 CHS W 9 – 5 Massapequa
2014 03/26 CHS W 7 – 4 Massapequa (Pequa = State Champs)
2015 More of the same
Will be interesting. Pequa down from last year. If they beat Cham. It will be very telling of the quality of the 2015 Cham team, especially given the past record. With all the Cham bragging that's been going on, they better win, or else there will be a lot of groveling.
Who is the FOGO for Chaminade ?
Game live on msg varsity 2-0 pequa, who are looking dominant
Massapequa 11
Chaminade 9
Recruit all over long island and still cantbeat pequa
Was not even as close as score pequa dominated
pequa was the difference.
Massapequa has 9 player up on varsity for jv team
[quote=Anonymous]/quote]
Sure it was a team effort.
Sachem East can be dangerous, game was closer than score indicated.
Who is the FOGO for Chaminade ?
For the 1001st time we do not allow players to be singled out.
hop,
i do not understand the edit on Sach East goalie play, kid was great,
i did not mention his name.....why the edit?
hop,
i do not understand the edit on Sach East goalie play, kid was great,
i did not mention his name.....why the edit?
Because someone on here will say he sucks and is over rated and the fight begins.
If you would review this thread you will see BOTC moderators do our best to prevent players being involved in the childish back and forth that is usually between adults.
Do not single out a player period.
hop,
i do not understand the edit on Sach East goalie play, kid was great,
i did not mention his name.....why the edit?
Also, parents are most times to blame for posting about their kids when they do good only to get that kid hammered by posters who thrive on negativity like vultures. So don't post about your own kid if you care for him.
I wanted pequa and happy they won - dominated first half but Flyers had a solid 2nd half - pequa real deal
Who is the FOGO for Chaminade ?
For the 1001st time we do not allow players to be singled out.
You did on the boys varsity where someone said pequa fogo was the difference in chaminade game
Who is the FOGO for Chaminade ?
For the 1001st time we do not allow players to be singled out.
You did on the boys varsity where someone said pequa fogo was the difference in chaminade game
Can't catch em all. But that was already edited.
But I'll be on the look out for you now. Just grow up and don't single out a kid.
do you put a flag on the IP address and always have an edit on it.
I have never called out a player and you have my post marked with Edited and most always never have a comment deleted. what gives.
do you put a flag on the IP address and always have an edit on it.
I have never called out a player and you have my post marked with Edited and most always never have a comment deleted. what gives.
The post you commented on was edited not yours.
do you put a flag on the IP address and always have an edit on it.
I have never called out a player and you have my post marked with Edited and most always never have a comment deleted. what gives.
The post you commented on was edited not yours.
I just hit quick reply in the subject title. But there have constantly been edited by Hop on the bottom of my post the last few weeks.
do you put a flag on the IP address and always have an edit on it.
I have never called out a player and you have my post marked with Edited and most always never have a comment deleted. what gives.
The post you commented on was edited not yours.
I just hit quick reply in the subject title. But there have constantly been edited by Hop on the bottom of my post the last few weeks.
Bull.
Your last post listed below was not edited. Go look. If others were they were justified. Stop wasting our time.
#107949 - 03/23/15 04:43 PM Re: 2015 Spring Boys Varsity Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]
hop,
i do not understand the edit on Sach East goalie play, kid was great,
i did not mention his name.....why the edit?
Because someone on here will say he sucks and is over rated and the fight begins.
If you would review this thread you will see BOTC moderators do our best to prevent players being involved in the childish back and forth that is usually between adults.
Do not single out a player period.
Why not allow posts that praise a worthy player by name and edit/delete the negative bashing that follows?
Huge game today one school is playing another and their are a number of key match ups - the first team has a player at an important position that has not played against another team with a player as good as him and it should be interesting to see how he does. The other school has more then a few players in grades not normally associated with varsity player it will be interesting to see how they do (I wonder how old they are and if they really should be in that grade) and last but not least is the two players at that really important position with them both going to a college next year it should be a great afternoon of lacrosse. hope the kids can handle playing in this heat
Classic? How about Coward. Dude posts anonymous but wants moderator to allow kids to be singled out and set up for attacks we all have seen on here. KEEP IT UP BOTC MODERATORS. THANK YOU!
Did Manhasset play Boy's Latin? I don't see a box score.
do you put a flag on the IP address and always have an edit on it.
I have never called out a player and you have my post marked with Edited and most always never have a comment deleted. what gives.
The post you commented on was edited not yours.
I just hit quick reply in the subject title. But there have constantly been edited by Hop on the bottom of my post the last few weeks.
Ok people we try and keep kids from getting singled out and attacked. Hop and I do our best.
People also need learn how to post when quoting and quick quoting. You must go to the end of the last post. If you don't it is very difficult for people to follow the post. So at he end hit enter and make your comment regarding the post and it will be easy to follow.
do you put a flag on the IP address and always have an edit on it.
I have never called out a player and you have my post marked with Edited and most always never have a comment deleted. what gives.
The post you commented on was edited not yours.
I just hit quick reply in the subject title. But there have constantly been edited by
XXX on the bottom of my post the last few weeks.
Ok people we try and keep kids from getting singled out and attacked. Hop and I do our best.
People also need learn how to post when quoting and quick quoting. You must go to the end of the last post. If you don't it is very difficult for people to follow the post. So at he end hit enter and make your comment regarding the post and it will be easy to follow.
edited by anonymous - please don't include monitors names lest they be subject to ridicule
do you put a flag on the IP address and always have an edit on it.
I have never called out a player and you have my post marked with Edited and most always never have a comment deleted. what gives.
The post you commented on was edited not yours.
I just hit quick reply in the subject title. But there have constantly been edited by
XXX on the bottom of my post the last few weeks.
Ok people we try and keep kids from getting singled out and attacked. Hop and I do our best.
People also need learn how to post when quoting and quick quoting. You must go to the end of the last post. If you don't it is very difficult for people to follow the post. So at he end hit enter and make your comment regarding the post and it will be easy to follow.
edited by anonymous - please don't include monitors names lest they be subject to ridicule
You apparently don't get it. Good luck.
Looks like another tough year for NP. I thought they would play Syosset to a 1 goal game
[quote=Anonymous]Did Manhasset play Boy's Latin? I don't see a box score.
Manhasset played Boys Latin last weekend at One Love Springfest at St. Paul's in Maryland. GC also played against St. Paul's. The GC box score is on MSG Varsity and Newsday. The Manhasset game is not listed in their schedule on MSG or Newsday and no box score.
Looks like another tough year for NP. I thought they would play Syosset to a 1 goal game
I am not sure how to write this without getting censored but I will try,
You should have tried harder. The poster from Syosset continues to single out individual players.
Looks like another tough year for NP. I thought they would play Syosset to a 1 goal game
I am not sure how to write this without getting censored but I will try,
Pequa is a dynasty, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Pequa is a dynasty, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Dynasty after 1 good year?
Anyone have local scores from yesterday?
Looks like another tough year for NP. I thought they would play Syosset to a 1 goal game
I am not sure how to write this without getting censored but I will try,
You should have tried harder. The poster from Syosset continues to single out individual players.
Never mentioned the player or the position so I am not sure why you refuse to allow a post about the game and how can you discuss a game without the fact that a difference maker for one of the teams did not play? It would be like not allowing us to say the weather was a factor because you don't want to single out mother nature
Pequa is a dynasty, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Dynasty after 1 good year?
I am not from Massapequa, but will question those who are on here. Are you questioning the probability that Massapequa cant become a dynasty? Which year in the next few years are they soft, where do you see a down trotted year where they may not continue to rise for the next few years.
I also know this is a Varsity thread, I also know your Varsity program is only as good as those that are coming down the pipe. That pipeline looks god for Massapequa
Off the island a little north of us.
Bronxville v Mamaroneck Bronxville wins big Mamaroneck coming across the bridge this weekend.
John Jay vs Lakeland was a one goal game Hornet Rebels win. Next up for John Jay is Yorktown.
Yorktown has Jay then the 'Pac
Lakeland has a break till the play Shenedahowa
Further north
West Gennee vs Penfield Sat.
Nisky, Shenedahowa Shaker yet to play
Pequa is a dynasty, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Dynasty after 1 good year?
I am not from Massapequa, but will question those who are on here. Are you questioning the probability that Massapequa cant become a dynasty? Which year in the next few years are they soft, where do you see a down trotted year where they may not continue to rise for the next few years.
I also know this is a Varsity thread, I also know your Varsity program is only as good as those that are coming down the pipe. That pipeline looks god for Massapequa
If you saw the St Anthonys scrimmage they do not look like a dynasty
Looks like another tough year for NP. I thought they would play Syosset to a 1 goal game
I am not sure how to write this without getting censored but I will try,
You should have tried harder. The poster from Syosset continues to single out individual players.
Never mentioned the player or the position so I am not sure why you refuse to allow a post about the game and how can you discuss a game without the fact that a difference maker for one of the teams did not play? It would be like not allowing us to say the weather was a factor because you don't want to single out mother nature
Completely ridiculous comparison. These kids are minors and protected by the law and the BOTC moderators.
For everyone who wants to discuss players by name, go to the laxpower boys lacrosse forums.
Pequa is a dynasty, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Dynasty after 1 good year?
I am not from Massapequa, but will question those who are on here. Are you questioning the probability that Massapequa cant become a dynasty? Which year in the next few years are they soft, where do you see a down trotted year where they may not continue to rise for the next few years.
I also know this is a Varsity thread, I also know your Varsity program is only as good as those that are coming down the pipe. That pipeline looks
god for Massapequa
Massapequa will be more then a Dynasty with "GOD" in the pipeline
Looks like another tough year for NP. I thought they would play Syosset to a 1 goal game
I am not sure how to write this without getting censored but I will try,
You should have tried harder. The poster from Syosset continues to single out individual players.
It has become impossible to discuss any game, boys or girls. I understand not using players names outright, I see the point in not using players numbers or initials, but not being able to discuss positions they play makes it imposable. I read that post about N-port before the raping of it and there was nothing wrong with what the poster said. This site has become ridicules
Never mentioned the player or the position so I am not sure why you refuse to allow a post about the game and how can you discuss a game without the fact that a difference maker for one of the teams did not play? It would be like not allowing us to say the weather was a factor because you don't want to single out mother nature
Completely ridiculous comparison. These kids are minors and protected by the law and the BOTC moderators.
Pequa is a dynasty, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Dynasty after 1 good year?
I am not from Massapequa, but will question those who are on here. Are you questioning the probability that Massapequa cant become a dynasty? Which year in the next few years are they soft, where do you see a down trotted year where they may not continue to rise for the next few years.
I also know this is a Varsity thread, I also know your Varsity program is only as good as those that are coming down the pipe. That pipeline looks
god for Massapequa
Massapequa will be more then a Dynasty with "GOD" in the pipeline
I thought God was on Chaminade's side, well the juniors and seniors anyway.
Whitman goalie off the charts good today
Whitman goalie off the charts good today
Looks like someone was just singled out??
Whitman goalie off the charts good today
Looks like someone was just singled out??
After discussions with our registered users it is their opinion that positive comments should be allowed. The moderators agreed to proceed allowing such posts. We will see how it goes.
Whitman goalie off the charts good today
Looks like someone was just singled out??
After discussions with our registered users it is their opinion that positive comments should be allowed. The moderators agreed to proceed allowing such posts. We will see how it goes.
Like that!
Whitman goalie off the charts good today
Looks like someone was just singled out??
After discussions with our registered users it is their opinion that positive comments should be allowed. The moderators agreed to proceed allowing such posts. We will see how it goes.
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Pequa is a dynasty, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Dynasty after 1 good year?
I am not from Massapequa, but will question those who are on here. Are you questioning the probability that Massapequa cant become a dynasty? Which year in the next few years are they soft, where do you see a down trotted year where they may not continue to rise for the next few years.
I also know this is a Varsity thread, I also know your Varsity program is only as good as those that are coming down the pipe. That pipeline looks
god for Massapequa
Massapequa will be more then a Dynasty with "GOD" in the pipeline
I thought God was on Chaminade's side, well the juniors and seniors anyway.
who does God route for when Chammy plays SA?
It's pretty inappropriate for any of you to be bringing religion into this. Very unnecessary.
It's pretty inappropriate for any of you to be bringing religion into this. Very unnecessary.
Religion was not bought into this, G*D was - two different concepts. It was because of a typo in the original post an O was left out of good. All in good fun. good luck to all the boys playing in the winter wonderland today
It's pretty inappropriate for any of you to be bringing religion into this. Very unnecessary.
ha, I wrote it and am a SA parent. It was a joke based on the typo. no one was bashing God or religion. Was actually trying to lighten up some of often negative bashing and have a laugh with the original poster. Sorry if we all somehow offended you but you really need to take things a little less serious
Which games were canceled is wi chammy on.
Which games were canceled is wi chammy on.
Syosset game was played. Syosset 10 Farmingdale 1
Hopefully all games on turf fields will be played, it was cold but fine to play
Which games were canceled is wi chammy on.
yes
Which games were canceled is wi chammy on.
yes
Heard it was canceled did they actually play
Cham won 8-5. See replay on MSG Varsity
Close game today Mamaroneck home against Wantagh. 11-10 Wantagh final.
Cham won 8-5. See replay on MSG Varsity
Interesting that Chaminade had such a close game with WI. Kind of what I figured.
If you knew anything about private schools, you would know that not everybody who wants to go, can go. There are admissions tests, interviews, tuition etc. It's not just a grab bag. Plus, in the Baltimore area (MIAA) there are about a dozen great private schools within a 25 mile radius competing for the same talent and in the process diluting the talent pool for any individual school. So, think about a dozen Chaminades in Nassau and Western Suffolk competing for the talent. Point being that the MIAA privates don't have it so easy in terms of assembling talent - they are just good at developing and coaching the talent that they get and 99 times out of 100 will beat any NY public despite their challenges of putting teams together. You can say what you want about the NY publics but they can't match up with the upper echelon of the MIAA. The only league that can possibly compare is the NE West 1 - another private league with Deerfield, Brunswick, Avon and Salisbury. The NY publics couldn't compete with those schools either - trust me on that.
Well 99 out of 100 nearly happened 3 times this weekend... Too funny.
And most of those private school teams are stacked with 19 year olds.
Looks Port Washington, another LI public gave Calvert Hall all they could handle in a close one. I guess LI publics can and do compete well with the Mighty MIAA.
If you knew anything about private schools, you would know that not everybody who wants to go, can go. There are admissions tests, interviews, tuition etc. It's not just a grab bag. Plus, in the Baltimore area (MIAA) there are about a dozen great private schools within a 25 mile radius competing for the same talent and in the process diluting the talent pool for any individual school. So, think about a dozen Chaminades in Nassau and Western Suffolk competing for the talent. Point being that the MIAA privates don't have it so easy in terms of assembling talent - they are just good at developing and coaching the talent that they get and 99 times out of 100 will beat any NY public despite their challenges of putting teams together. You can say what you want about the NY publics but they can't match up with the upper echelon of the MIAA. The only league that can possibly compare is the NE West 1 - another private league with Deerfield, Brunswick, Avon and Salisbury. The NY publics couldn't compete with those schools either - trust me on that.
Well 99 out of 100 nearly happened 3 times this weekend... Too funny.
And most of those private school teams are stacked with 19 year olds.
Looks Port Washington, another LI public gave Calvert Hall all they could handle in a close one. I guess LI publics can and do compete well with the Mighty MIAA.
Still not beating the MIAA though.
If you knew anything about private schools, you would know that not everybody who wants to go, can go. There are admissions tests, interviews, tuition etc. It's not just a grab bag. Plus, in the Baltimore area (MIAA) there are about a dozen great private schools within a 25 mile radius competing for the same talent and in the process diluting the talent pool for any individual school. So, think about a dozen Chaminades in Nassau and Western Suffolk competing for the talent. Point being that the MIAA privates don't have it so easy in terms of assembling talent - they are just good at developing and coaching the talent that they get and 99 times out of 100 will beat any NY public despite their challenges of putting teams together. You can say what you want about the NY publics but they can't match up with the upper echelon of the MIAA. The only league that can possibly compare is the NE West 1 - another private league with Deerfield, Brunswick, Avon and Salisbury. The NY publics couldn't compete with those schools either - trust me on that.
Well 99 out of 100 nearly happened 3 times this weekend... Too funny.
And most of those private school teams are stacked with 19 year olds.
Looks Port Washington, another LI public gave Calvert Hall all they could handle in a close one. I guess LI publics can and do compete well with the Mighty MIAA.
Still not beating the MIAA though.
There were four games I'm aware of between LI publics and MIAA teams. 2 wins and 2 loses for each. Usually when a team loses it means that the team that won "beat" the other team. With that said, these games shouldn't even be close. MIAA schools recruit players, and are loaded with re-class, holdbacks and 19 year olds. (LI publics have nearly zero 19 year olds) LI publics have to assemble a team from the kids that live in a small geographic area. In many cases a few square miles. MIAA teams should be winning these games by 10 plus goals. Perhaps the MIAA is just a tad bit overrated...
If you knew anything about private schools, you would know that not everybody who wants to go, can go. There are admissions tests, interviews, tuition etc. It's not just a grab bag. Plus, in the Baltimore area (MIAA) there are about a dozen great private schools within a 25 mile radius competing for the same talent and in the process diluting the talent pool for any individual school. So, think about a dozen Chaminades in Nassau and Western Suffolk competing for the talent. Point being that the MIAA privates don't have it so easy in terms of assembling talent - they are just good at developing and coaching the talent that they get and 99 times out of 100 will beat any NY public despite their challenges of putting teams together. You can say what you want about the NY publics but they can't match up with the upper echelon of the MIAA. The only league that can possibly compare is the NE West 1 - another private league with Deerfield, Brunswick, Avon and Salisbury. The NY publics couldn't compete with those schools either - trust me on that.
Well 99 out of 100 nearly happened 3 times this weekend... Too funny.
And most of those private school teams are stacked with 19 year olds.
Looks Port Washington, another LI public gave Calvert Hall all they could handle in a close one. I guess LI publics can and do compete well with the Mighty MIAA.
Still not beating the MIAA though.
There were four games I'm aware of between LI publics and MIAA teams. 2 wins and 2 loses for each. Usually when a team loses it means that the team that won "beat" the other team. With that said, these games shouldn't even be close. MIAA schools recruit players, and are loaded with re-class, holdbacks and 19 year olds. (LI publics have nearly zero 19 year olds) LI publics have to assemble a team from the kids that live in a small geographic area. In many cases a few square miles. MIAA teams should be winning these games by 10 plus goals. Perhaps the MIAA is just a tad bit overrated...
Agreed! Would love to see some of the other top LI public progrsms play the MIAA
There were four games I'm aware of between LI publics and MIAA teams. 2 wins and 2 loses for each. Usually when a team loses it means that the team that won "beat" the other team. With that said, these games shouldn't even be close. MIAA schools recruit players, and are loaded with re-class, holdbacks and 19 year olds. (LI publics have nearly zero 19 year olds) LI publics have to assemble a team from the kids that live in a small geographic area. In many cases a few square miles. MIAA teams should be winning these games by 10 plus goals. Perhaps the MIAA is just a tad bit overrated...
Don't get confused by scores, logic or facts MIAA is better then everybody else, not because they can draw from a larger area, not because their kids are a year older it is because they are better then everybody else, always have been always will be......just ask them
If you knew anything about private schools, you would know that not everybody who wants to go, can go. There are admissions tests, interviews, tuition etc. It's not just a grab bag. Plus, in the Baltimore area (MIAA) there are about a dozen great private schools within a 25 mile radius competing for the same talent and in the process diluting the talent pool for any individual school. So, think about a dozen Chaminades in Nassau and Western Suffolk competing for the talent. Point being that the MIAA privates don't have it so easy in terms of assembling talent - they are just good at developing and coaching the talent that they get and 99 times out of 100 will beat any NY public despite their challenges of putting teams together. You can say what you want about the NY publics but they can't match up with the upper echelon of the MIAA. The only league that can possibly compare is the NE West 1 - another private league with Deerfield, Brunswick, Avon and Salisbury. The NY publics couldn't compete with those schools either - trust me on that.
Well 99 out of 100 nearly happened 3 times this weekend... Too funny.
And most of those private school teams are stacked with 19 year olds.
Looks Port Washington, another LI public gave Calvert Hall all they could handle in a close one. I guess LI publics can and do compete well with the Mighty MIAA.
Watched Port in several winter league games and came away extremely impressed with their speed and transitions. They will be a force to be reckoned with (from a GC guy)
Whitman beats Pat Med 8-2- not impressive.
Goalie with 21 saves 2 goals against, thats impressive.
This should surprise anyone. LI dominates the college scene. About 15% of all D1 mens lacrosse players are from LI. The only thing that I saw as a college player that made the Balti teams better was superior coaching and long standing lacrosse traditions. Long Island has more kids and better athletes. Plus, Long Island kids are not afraid to take the body!! The club scene has helped to make our HS programs stronger.
I've got to think God roots for Chaminade being that the St. A's boys have been inappropriately taught to pray in a three-point stance as opposed traditional kneeling preached at Chaminade...
Whitman beats Pat Med 8-2- not impressive.
Goalie with 21 saves 2 goals against, thats impressive.
lets talk about Whitman after they play East (Smithtown and Hills)
Their schedule is full of Jv caliber teams. 8 of the 13 games left should not be a challenge. (Your season comes down to Smtithown East / west, Hills East, WI, Northport not your fault sect 11's)
This should surprise anyone. LI dominates the college scene. About 15% of all D1 mens lacrosse players are from LI. The only thing that I saw as a college player that made the Balti teams better was superior coaching and long standing lacrosse traditions. Long Island has more kids and better athletes. Plus, Long Island kids are not afraid to take the body!! The club scene has helped to make our HS programs stronger.
Where did you find this stat Jed, would be interesting to see how the game is spreading at the college level
I've got to think God roots for Chaminade being that the St. A's boys have been inappropriately taught to pray in a three-point stance as opposed traditional kneeling preached at Chaminade...
That was cute
I like that!
Hey Anon, I got it from InsideLacrosse. It has been posted on here as well.
[url=http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/coughlin-2014-analysis-of-lacrosse-s-hotbeds-and-geography/28964][/url]
What's wrong with Smithtown West and their schedule?
They seem to be ducking some of the early heavyweights on their schedule(Bronxville & Garden City)...maybe they are not ready.
I know snow, cold, locusts, fire, etc. Some day they gotta play and show what they have.
Keep on playing the cupcakes - then claim to be the best.
What's wrong with Smithtown West and their schedule?
They seem to be ducking some of the early heavyweights on their schedule(Bronxville & Garden City)...maybe they are not ready.
I know snow, cold, locusts, fire, etc. Some day they gotta play and show what they have.
Keep on playing the cupcakes - then claim to be the best.
Which teams are on your list for quality competition? Who are they playing in the near future that will test them?
Well thought out post on Smithtown West. I like the insight and analysis. Thank you
Syosset beats Port in an amazing game played by both teams 12 to 11
Score of Syosset vs Port Washington was 11 to 10.
Syosset - regular season lion, playoff lamb. Will be interesting to see if this year is different or more of the same.
Good matchup thursday- Massapequa plays GC
Syosset - regular season lion, playoff lamb. Will be interesting to see if this year is different or more of the same.
not sure what you are talking about? they are not regular season lions or playoff lambs - they generally finish the playoffs about where you would expect them, two upset losses and one upset win in the recent past - the rest were about were you would expect them. in the last 10 years they average 12.4 wins and 5.6 losses, they play a pretty strong out of league schedule and the in league schedule is what it is. In the last 10 years they have won 4 county championships and were state runner ups once. By no means a dynasty but also not chumps. you are what your record says you are and they are on average a 12 win 5 loss team.
i am not a syosset fan but they are playing well and only have pequa to beat until the playoffs (which is a free for all)- their parents are probably a bit too excited but let them enjoy the moment - i really doubt u want to be undefeated heading into playoffs - imo suffolk has the the best teams but they tend to choke - i think the owls are legit and csh has no one to play until the state finals so who cares about C - we need a super league because outside of 1 or 2 league games and OOC games the season is a waste of time until the playoffs ...
i am not a syosset fan but they are playing well and only have pequa to beat until the playoffs (which is a free for all)- their parents are probably a bit too excited but let them enjoy the moment - i really doubt u want to be undefeated heading into playoffs - imo suffolk has the the best teams but they tend to choke - i think the owls are legit and csh has no one to play until the state finals so who cares about C - we need a super league because outside of 1 or 2 league games and OOC games the season is a waste of time until the playoffs ...
Agreed! Nassau A never has more than 4 decent teams and at least 6 horrendous teams. Super LI league would be great.
Look out for Calhoun. There is a new team in the mix.
Good for the Colts...but ease down a bit, Wantagh seems to have fallen off the map since their 2012 year...
WM beat up on Sachem North last night...16-7
Wantagh lost one of the islands best attack players ever to graduation. don't know how he's doing down in philly but he's HOF
by any measurement
Pequa 6 GC 3. Pequa D and goalie were exceptional.
West Islip lost to Carey 7-6 (2 OT)
O fers.
Of the 5 teams that have not recorded their first win which team has the best chance to make the playoffs.
copiague
brentwood
deer park
pat med
West bab
anyone surprised with any of the 6 undefeated teams.
WM
Smit E
Smit W
Quot
Hills East
Whit
I think the o-fers in Nassau are just about right. No surprises there. Wasn't sure with Suffolk.
West Islip lost to Carey 7-6 (2 OT)
WHERE IS Carey?
Carey is in Franklin Square
West Islip lost to Carey 7-6 (2 OT)
WHERE IS Carey?
If wise [lacrosse] comment really, if off island Closer to queens than Garden City.
West islip lost 2 early game last year and a few others and still was able to make it far.
Wouldhave been nie to see Hewlett and Carey play in season.
West Islip lost to Carey 7-6 (2 OT)
WHERE IS Carey?
If wise [lacrosse] comment really, if off island Closer to queens than Garden City.
West islip lost 2 early game last year and a few others and still was able to make it far.
Wouldhave been nie to see Hewlett and Carey play in season.
It's hard to convey your thoughts when you can't come close to having a basic command of the English language.
West Islip lost to Carey 7-6 (2 OT)
WHERE IS Carey?
If wise [lacrosse] comment really, if off island Closer to queens than Garden City.
West islip lost 2 early game last year and a few others and still was able to make it far.
Wouldhave been nie to see Hewlett and Carey play in season.
Lighten up Francis!!
Carey is the football town slowly learning to play lacrosse
They got some athletes. Haven't lost a football game in 2 years
Will that 2021 Franklin Square team go to Carey. They had been pretty good on the town circuit. That gives the School some promise in the future. up and coming
What happened to HS sports. In my district you pay your coaches to play on a travel team during the summer and in return they play 9th graders in the last few minutes of a game over upper classman who have waited for their opportunity to play. Coaches of today want loyalty, but perhaps they should remember to return that loyalty to their players. What happened to waiting your turn or earning your spot. I have no problem with young players playing if they are truly better then the older ones, but let the kids play when the time is right!!
What happened to HS sports. In my district you pay your coaches to play on a travel team during the summer and in return they play 9th graders in the last few minutes of a game over upper classman who have waited for their opportunity to play. Coaches of today want loyalty, but perhaps they should remember to return that loyalty to their players. What happened to waiting your turn or earning your spot. I have no problem with young players playing if they are truly better then the older ones, but let the kids play when the time is right!!
Regarding playing time...many dos and do nots regarding addressing this topic with coach. Any suggestions re asking why play time diminishing when being replaced by players with less results in game ( number of teammates questioned sidelined player about why not starting...are you injured, sick, miss practice?). Any suggestions for the player (other than work harder etc) ? best way to approach coach?
So someone just came on here to give props to the 2021 franklin square team? Dad you know they are going to Carey. Lol you people are a joke on this site.
What happened to HS sports. In my district you pay your coaches to play on a travel team during the summer and in return they play 9th graders in the last few minutes of a game over upper classman who have waited for their opportunity to play. Coaches of today want loyalty, but perhaps they should remember to return that loyalty to their players. What happened to waiting your turn or earning your spot. I have no problem with young players playing if they are truly better then the older ones, but let the kids play when the time is right!!
Amen brother. HS lax should to at least some degree be about creating memories, especially for the Seniors who have toiled away for years with very little reward. In a game already decided, would it kill a coach to get his bench riding seniors a couple of thrills for the years of commitment? Especially the Seniors who have been loyal to the coach's summer program when there are so many better club options that he could have played for. The 9th graders have plenty of time left and I have yet to see too many 9th graders who are better than seniors.
So someone just came on here to give props to the 2021 franklin square team? Dad you know they are going to Carey. Lol you people are a joke on this site.
Not a joke looks into the future. Wish more HS coaches did that. Not from FS either but another town that played them
speaking of future ,.....and I know its off subject ........ will the people who insist on saying that their kid is being recruited when they go to a prospect camp, please be honest. its a chance to see a school, play a little lax and say hello to coach. just because you were invited to a prospect day means nada. its a group mailing from some list you are on and that's it. seriously, not to burst your bubble but maybe its time.
speaking of future ,.....and I know its off subject ........ will the people who insist on saying that their kid is being recruited when they go to a prospect camp, please be honest. its a chance to see a school, play a little lax and say hello to coach. just because you were invited to a prospect day means nada. its a group mailing from some list you are on and that's it. seriously, not to burst your bubble but maybe its time.
ok
speaking of future ,.....and I know its off subject ........ will the people who insist on saying that their kid is being recruited when they go to a prospect camp, please be honest. its a chance to see a school, play a little lax and say hello to coach. just because you were invited to a prospect day means nada. its a group mailing from some list you are on and that's it. seriously, not to burst your bubble but maybe its time.
You speak the truth! It's those same parents that will say that there son got a full ride to a D1 school when in reality they are paying full freight for there kid to go there so it's a no risk option for the coach to put him on the roster.
Not the same. Being on a roster is something that occurs for real, paying or not. Cocktail party talk about kid being recruited is before that occurs. I may add that you hear that the coach says at end of prospect day " you did well" . What else would he/she say? "you looked horrendous, thanks for the $150-200"?
It is like anything else...when you are being recruited, you know it. We always treated prospect days as an opportunity to do so well that the coach then started recruiting you...
Prospect days can be a great resource but they are, by far, the easiest money-maker for college coaches. In my experience, if a coach has a real interest in a player, they will usually reach out to your club or high school coaches and ask if you can attend one of their prospect weekends. They typically have 10 or 15 players that they saw in the summer and wanted to get another look. Otherwise, unless you're an astounding player, it will be difficult to get noticed. Do not be lured in by the "Dear X, Congratulations on being selected to attend our Prospect Day" You are most likely 1 out of 300 in a group email. However, if you think your son had a decent showing, have your club coach call the college coach to get their evaluation and ask if they should follow up. If they tell him, they like you but want to see you play some more .... move on.
True . "send us your h.s. schedule we will try to get to game"
uh uh....not recruiting ...
So true know a player who got invite to prospect day letter read "we saw you play at xyz. He was nt even at that tourney
Ok, so scores? Anyone.....
I left at 4-1, GC offensively challenged this year. Solid D, as usual. Program in a downswing currently. We'll see for how long.
Other Nassau teams better at this moment
they are vested in future. last year they basically tanked to bring along the freshmen "recruits" . see playoff loss personnel.
I left at 4-1, GC offensively challenged this year. Solid D, as usual. Program in a downswing currently. We'll see for how long.
Other Nassau teams better at this moment
Like Who?? In "B" is going to beat GC
This year Lynbrook, Hewlett, Manhasset are better
how about Carey? they are very good this year.
they are vested in future. last year they basically tanked to bring along the freshmen "recruits" . see playoff loss personnel.
one of those "recruits" got recruited away to St. Ants
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or transferred because he was not one of the chosen?
Prospect days can be a great resource but they are, by far, the easiest money-maker for college coaches. In my experience, if a coach has a real interest in a player, they will usually reach out to your club or high school coaches and ask if you can attend one of their prospect weekends. They typically have 10 or 15 players that they saw in the summer and wanted to get another look. Otherwise, unless you're an astounding player, it will be difficult to get noticed. Do not be lured in by the "Dear X, Congratulations on being selected to attend our Prospect Day" You are most likely 1 out of 300 in a group email. However, if you think your son had a decent showing, have your club coach call the college coach to get their evaluation and ask if they should follow up. If they tell him, they like you but want to see you play some more .... move on.
Yup
Overheard a conversation end of last summer between two dudes at a pizzeria and they were discussing the windfall of cash that the local university's prospect camp was generating for the HC of the schools Lax program. Curious as to who they were. I googled the schools Lax coaching staff and confirmed 1 was assistant to HC and other was his college buddy. Assistant was amazed that haul was in excess of 40k for the 1 or 2 day camp, less expenses!
or transferred because he was not one of the chosen?
4-5 GC kids on Chaminade freshman team.
There is a trend here.
Its about time this stuff is being discussed on this site.
between educating the naïve parents who fool themselves (and look foolish to those in the know) about what they desperately want to call being recruited, and in addition putting a spotlight on the Prospect Camp invite business. Its not a scam ..its just what it is... a well marketed business with an audience.
Its about time this stuff is being discussed on this site.
between educating the naïve parents who fool themselves (and look foolish to those in the know) about what they desperately want to call being recruited, and in addition putting a spotlight on the Prospect Camp invite business. Its not a scam ..its just what it is... a well marketed business with an audience.
A fine line between good marketing and a scam.
One needs to proceed with eyes wide-open.
Its about time this stuff is being discussed on this site.
between educating the naïve parents who fool themselves (and look foolish to those in the know) about what they desperately want to call being recruited, and in addition putting a spotlight on the Prospect Camp invite business. Its not a scam ..its just what it is... a well marketed business with an audience.
This is very true, but the process isn't without merit for would-be recruits.
Only attend prospect days at schools of interest. It's an opportunity to get in front of the coaches at your target schools and it also lets them know you're interested. Perform well, get noticed and follow up with the coaches after the event. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
If anything, prospect days allow players to gain some control of the recruiting process, visit the campus, get to the know the coaches and learn a little about their system for the day. As for the coaches, they get to evaluate players on their turf and on their terms and divert some of revenue away from the tournaments and showcases.
trend???? WISE up!!!!!
Every year G.C parents have sent their sons to Chaminade . Average is 5 to 18 kids a year . Just as Manhasset parents have done for years. And all will tell you it was not just for sports.
2-3 GC kids on Chaminade J V lacrosse team
2-4 GC kids on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are juniors
3-5 GC KIDS on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are seniors
And Garden City high school has always had great lacrosse program . And will continue to have strong lacrosse program.
trend???? WISE up!!!!!
Every year G.C parents have sent their sons to Chaminade . Average is 5 to 18 kids a year . Just as Manhasset parents have done for years. And all will tell you it was not just for sports.
2-3 GC kids on Chaminade J V lacrosse team
2-4 GC kids on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are juniors
3-5 GC KIDS on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are seniors
And Garden City high school has always had great lacrosse program . And will continue to have strong lacrosse program.
actually 6 on JV this year
or transferred because he was not one of the chosen?
Ivy commit.... had already been "chosen"
strong just not dominate.this year and last year
Carey? Isn't that a football school?
It is so disappointing to see this year's league alignments in suffolk county varsity boys lacrosse. By splitting the A 's into 2 leagues it has watered down the play so much. I just left a game where the half time score was 19-2. This is not unusual for so many of the games this year. It is a disservice to the team winning and even more so for the losing team. No one gains from this experience. Last year each and every game was a challenge and required thoughtful play by the athletes and creative coaching by the staff. Not so much this year.
trend???? WISE up!!!!!
Every year G.C parents have sent their sons to Chaminade . Average is 5 to 18 kids a year . Just as Manhasset parents have done for years. And all will tell you it was not just for sports.
2-3 GC kids on Chaminade J V lacrosse team
2-4 GC kids on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are juniors
3-5 GC KIDS on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are seniors
And Garden City high school has always had great lacrosse program . And will continue to have strong lacrosse program.
One of the issues is that GC the youth organization and parents(politics) and the HS coaches(politics) buy into the "committed" idea at 3rd & 4th grade. How many kids develop after age 9? Right! But somehow the GC system has already culled the herd and determined who'll be the 24 next great players 7 years later. They do not develop the majority of "un-chosen" players early on in the process, thus loosing many of the kids. Then when it comes to going to HS they will loose 4-6 of the "committed" players to other schools.
The talent pool is in GC deep but they only focus on the few way too early.
It is so disappointing to see this year's league alignments in suffolk county varsity boys lacrosse. By splitting the A 's into 2 leagues it has watered down the play so much. I just left a game where the half time score was 19-2. This is not unusual for so many of the games this year. It is a disservice to the team winning and even more so for the losing team. No one gains from this experience. Last year each and every game was a challenge and required thoughtful play by the athletes and creative coaching by the staff. Not so much this year.
You are correct about Suffolk A this year. Seems as if there are about 5 competitive teams in each league. 3 games you don't know what you'll get and 3 wins/losses by 5 or so goals and about 5 games which will be dreaded blow outs.
Carey? Isn't that a football school?
PAL program started in Fr Sq a decade or so ago.
Starting to bear fruit now.
trend???? WISE up!!!!!
Every year G.C parents have sent their sons to Chaminade . Average is 5 to 18 kids a year . Just as Manhasset parents have done for years. And all will tell you it was not just for sports.
2-3 GC kids on Chaminade J V lacrosse team
2-4 GC kids on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are juniors
3-5 GC KIDS on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are seniors
And Garden City high school has always had great lacrosse program . And will continue to have strong lacrosse program.
One of the issues is that GC the youth organization and parents(politics) and the HS coaches(politics) buy into the "committed" idea at 3rd & 4th grade. How many kids develop after age 9? Right! But somehow the GC system has already culled the herd and determined who'll be the 24 next great players 7 years later. They do not develop the majority of "un-chosen" players early on in the process, thus loosing many of the kids. Then when it comes to going to HS they will loose 4-6 of the "committed" players to other schools.
The talent pool is in GC deep but they only focus on the few way too early.
Totally disagree. There are more than 300+ boys playing in the GC youth program between grades 3-6, 78 alone in the 6th grade. So how are we not developing the un-chosen players so early on? Please explain.
Prospect days can be a great resource but they are, by far, the easiest money-maker for college coaches. In my experience, if a coach has a real interest in a player, they will usually reach out to your club or high school coaches and ask if you can attend one of their prospect weekends. They typically have 10 or 15 players that they saw in the summer and wanted to get another look. Otherwise, unless you're an astounding player, it will be difficult to get noticed. Do not be lured in by the "Dear X, Congratulations on being selected to attend our Prospect Day" You are most likely 1 out of 300 in a group email. However, if you think your son had a decent showing, have your club coach call the college coach to get their evaluation and ask if they should follow up. If they tell him, they like you but want to see you play some more .... move on.
Yup
Overheard a conversation end of last summer between two dudes at a pizzeria and they were discussing the windfall of cash that the local university's prospect camp was generating for the HC of the schools Lax program. Curious as to who they were. I googled the schools Lax coaching staff and confirmed 1 was assistant to HC and other was his college buddy. Assistant was amazed that haul was in excess of 40k for the 1 or 2 day camp, less expenses!
my 2018 has gone to 5 prospect camps and his HS coach got calls within 24 hours from 3 of the 5 schools, We then set up visits and went back to meet with the coaches and tour the schools. He has not gone to the prospect days to any of the schools he has no interest in, it is all a matter of being realistic about your kids ability and picking the right schools, I think it is way way better then the camps and fall tournaments at least for my son. As far as them being money grabs I don't see that at all. 80 to 100 kids at $150 ea. is $1200 to $1500 gross - they have some expenses (Refs, pinnies, trainers and I am not sure if they are allowed to give money to the kids on the team that help out) so maybe at the end of the day the coaching staff nets $10,000 and in my opinion this is the best money you can spend on your sons recruiting just pick the right ones and don't go to everything.
within 24 hours ? wow...must be some special talent. anyone else have this experience?
Prospect days can be a great resource but they are, by far, the easiest money-maker for college coaches. In my experience, if a coach has a real interest in a player, they will usually reach out to your club or high school coaches and ask if you can attend one of their prospect weekends. They typically have 10 or 15 players that they saw in the summer and wanted to get another look. Otherwise, unless you're an astounding player, it will be difficult to get noticed. Do not be lured in by the "Dear X, Congratulations on being selected to attend our Prospect Day" You are most likely 1 out of 300 in a group email. However, if you think your son had a decent showing, have your club coach call the college coach to get their evaluation and ask if they should follow up. If they tell him, they like you but want to see you play some more .... move on.
Yup
Overheard a conversation end of last summer between two dudes at a pizzeria and they were discussing the windfall of cash that the local university's prospect camp was generating for the HC of the schools Lax program. Curious as to who they were. I googled the schools Lax coaching staff and confirmed 1 was assistant to HC and other was his college buddy. Assistant was amazed that haul was in excess of 40k for the 1 or 2 day camp, less expenses!
my 2018 has gone to 5 prospect camps and his HS coach got calls within 24 hours from 3 of the 5 schools, We then set up visits and went back to meet with the coaches and tour the schools. He has not gone to the prospect days to any of the schools he has no interest in, it is all a matter of being realistic about your kids ability and picking the right schools, I think it is way way better then the camps and fall tournaments at least for my son. As far as them being money grabs I don't see that at all. 80 to 100 kids at $150 ea. is $1200 to $1500 gross - they have some expenses (Refs, pinnies, trainers and I am not sure if they are allowed to give money to the kids on the team that help out) so maybe at the end of the day the coaching staff nets $10,000 and in my opinion this is the best money you can spend on your sons recruiting just pick the right ones and don't go to everything.
Just stating the facts as I heard them from the horses mouth.
prospect camps are better than tournaments if you are going to see a school your kid wants to attend. If you do get a call from the coach it is great. If you go to camps because of an invite you are wasting your time and money. Most coaches that want to see you at their camp will have already been communicating with you before his camp.
trend???? WISE up!!!!!
Every year G.C parents have sent their sons to Chaminade . Average is 5 to 18 kids a year . Just as Manhasset parents have done for years. And all will tell you it was not just for sports.
2-3 GC kids on Chaminade J V lacrosse team
2-4 GC kids on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are juniors
3-5 GC KIDS on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are seniors
And Garden City high school has always had great lacrosse program . And will continue to have strong lacrosse program.
One of the issues is that GC the youth organization and parents(politics) and the HS coaches(politics) buy into the "committed" idea at 3rd & 4th grade. How many kids develop after age 9? Right! But somehow the GC system has already culled the herd and determined who'll be the 24 next great players 7 years later. They do not develop the majority of "un-chosen" players early on in the process, thus loosing many of the kids. Then when it comes to going to HS they will loose 4-6 of the "committed" players to other schools.
The talent pool is in GC deep but they only focus on the few way too early.
Totally disagree. There are more than 300+ boys playing in the GC youth program between grades 3-6, 78 alone in the 6th grade. So how are we not developing the un-chosen players so early on? Please explain.
I'll answer by asking some questions...
How many kids get to play in 7th grade? Big drop off, yes?
Does that 6th grade A team play more games/ scrimmages, practice more (indoor & outdoor), and play better tournaments than the other 6th grade teams?
Do you just disagree about the kids developing or do you also disagree about the politics?
trend???? WISE up!!!!!
Every year G.C parents have sent their sons to Chaminade . Average is 5 to 18 kids a year . Just as Manhasset parents have done for years. And all will tell you it was not just for sports.
2-3 GC kids on Chaminade J V lacrosse team
2-4 GC kids on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are juniors
3-5 GC KIDS on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are seniors
And Garden City high school has always had great lacrosse program . And will continue to have strong lacrosse program.
One of the issues is that GC the youth organization and parents(politics) and the HS coaches(politics) buy into the "committed" idea at 3rd & 4th grade. How many kids develop after age 9? Right! But somehow the GC system has already culled the herd and determined who'll be the 24 next great players 7 years later. They do not develop the majority of "un-chosen" players early on in the process, thus loosing many of the kids. Then when it comes to going to HS they will loose 4-6 of the "committed" players to other schools.
The talent pool is in GC deep but they only focus on the few way too early.
Totally disagree. There are more than 300+ boys playing in the GC youth program between grades 3-6, 78 alone in the 6th grade. So how are we not developing the un-chosen players so early on? Please explain.
I'll answer by asking some questions...
How many kids get to play in 7th grade? Big drop off, yes?
Does that 6th grade A team play more games/ scrimmages, practice more (indoor & outdoor), and play better tournaments than the other 6th grade teams?
Do you just disagree about the kids developing or do you also disagree about the politics?
7th grade school team, 35-40 maybe, eliminated the combo team to allow another 35 to continue playing
5th and 6th grade A teams get far more attention than the B team or lower. Oddly enough, if enough kids play B instead of A, the directors purposefully neglect the B
Politics are rampant.
trend???? WISE up!!!!!
Every year G.C parents have sent their sons to Chaminade . Average is 5 to 18 kids a year . Just as Manhasset parents have done for years. And all will tell you it was not just for sports.
2-3 GC kids on Chaminade J V lacrosse team
2-4 GC kids on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are juniors
3-5 GC KIDS on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are seniors
And Garden City high school has always had great lacrosse program . And will continue to have strong lacrosse program.
One of the issues is that GC the youth organization and parents(politics) and the HS coaches(politics) buy into the "committed" idea at 3rd & 4th grade. How many kids develop after age 9? Right! But somehow the GC system has already culled the herd and determined who'll be the 24 next great players 7 years later. They do not develop the majority of "un-chosen" players early on in the process, thus loosing many of the kids. Then when it comes to going to HS they will loose 4-6 of the "committed" players to other schools.
The talent pool is in GC deep but they only focus on the few way too early.
Totally disagree. There are more than 300+ boys playing in the GC youth program between grades 3-6, 78 alone in the 6th grade. So how are we not developing the un-chosen players so early on? Please explain.
I'll answer by asking some questions...
How many kids get to play in 7th grade? Big drop off, yes?
Does that 6th grade A team play more games/ scrimmages, practice more (indoor & outdoor), and play better tournaments than the other 6th grade teams?
Do you just disagree about the kids developing or do you also disagree about the politics?
7th grade school team, 35-40 maybe, eliminated the combo team to allow another 35 to continue playing
5th and 6th grade A teams get far more attention than the B team or lower. Oddly enough, if enough kids play B instead of A, the directors purposefully neglect the B
Politics are rampant.
That may have been the case in the past, but that is definitely not the case with the 4th and 5th grade teams now and their directors.
trend???? WISE up!!!!!
Every year G.C parents have sent their sons to Chaminade . Average is 5 to 18 kids a year . Just as Manhasset parents have done for years. And all will tell you it was not just for sports.
2-3 GC kids on Chaminade J V lacrosse team
2-4 GC kids on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are juniors
3-5 GC KIDS on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are seniors
And Garden City high school has always had great lacrosse program . And will continue to have strong lacrosse program.
One of the issues is that GC the youth organization and parents(politics) and the HS coaches(politics) buy into the "committed" idea at 3rd & 4th grade. How many kids develop after age 9? Right! But somehow the GC system has already culled the herd and determined who'll be the 24 next great players 7 years later. They do not develop the majority of "un-chosen" players early on in the process, thus loosing many of the kids. Then when it comes to going to HS they will loose 4-6 of the "committed" players to other schools.
The talent pool is in GC deep but they only focus on the few way too early.
Totally disagree. There are more than 300+ boys playing in the GC youth program between grades 3-6, 78 alone in the 6th grade. So how are we not developing the un-chosen players so early on? Please explain.
I'll answer by asking some questions...
How many kids get to play in 7th grade? Big drop off, yes?
Does that 6th grade A team play more games/ scrimmages, practice more (indoor & outdoor), and play better tournaments than the other 6th grade teams?
Do you just disagree about the kids developing or do you also disagree about the politics?
7th grade school team, 35-40 maybe, eliminated the combo team to allow another 35 to continue playing
5th and 6th grade A teams get far more attention than the B team or lower. Oddly enough, if enough kids play B instead of A, the directors purposefully neglect the B
Politics are rampant.
Helped with that point, thanks.
If the GC powers concentrated on developing MOST or a majority of the kids at young ages (not just the select 20-24) It would likely help the overall strength of the HS program too.
There are many talented kids that don't get the attention in the early years. Some kids will develop on their own and crack the roster, but I think it would be far better (and advantageous) to try to equally manage 2 or 3 quality "A" teams in a deeply talented area such as GC and help kids keep playing longer.
It really would be advantageous because after 8th grade GC will loose 20% of the "A" kids won't go to GCHS anyway.
Parents and coaches don't want this because they want their kids to be the "elite" 10 year old... which in the end can help with a roster spot in HS. If the kid is part of the remaining 18 - 19 kids from the select team it is almost a lay up. That is why politics come into play.
It is so disappointing to see this year's league alignments in suffolk county varsity boys lacrosse. By splitting the A 's into 2 leagues it has watered down the play so much. I just left a game where the half time score was 19-2. This is not unusual for so many of the games this year. It is a disservice to the team winning and even more so for the losing team. No one gains from this experience. Last year each and every game was a challenge and required thoughtful play by the athletes and creative coaching by the staff. Not so much this year.
Agreed, way too many blowouts already. The top teams should not have to wait till playoffs to see each other. This is bad for everyone!
It is so disappointing to see this year's league alignments in suffolk county varsity boys lacrosse. By splitting the A 's into 2 leagues it has watered down the play so much. I just left a game where the half time score was 19-2. This is not unusual for so many of the games this year. It is a disservice to the team winning and even more so for the losing team. No one gains from this experience. Last year each and every game was a challenge and required thoughtful play by the athletes and creative coaching by the staff. Not so much this year.
Agreed, way too many blowouts already. The top teams should not have to wait till playoffs to see each other. This is bad for everyone!
The blow out issue is a problem in both Nassau and Suffolk. Everyone knows who the strong programs are and they should play in the same conference regardless of size of the school. 10+ goal margins are way to common and nobody benefits from those games.
What about the seniors who broke their back to play 4 years at school and get sent in for last few minutes while the parents of the freshmen head for the parking lot congratulating one another for all that they are. that's a total thrill .
What about the seniors who broke their back to play 4 years at school and get sent in for last few minutes while the parents of the freshmen head for the parking lot congratulating one another for all that they are. that's a total thrill .
That's not right, should be the other way around. Can't imagine freshman being better than uperclassman, expect maybe very rare instances. Maybe when it happens to them they will realize why it's not best practice.
It is so disappointing to see this year's league alignments in suffolk county varsity boys lacrosse. By splitting the A 's into 2 leagues it has watered down the play so much. I just left a game where the half time score was 19-2. This is not unusual for so many of the games this year. It is a disservice to the team winning and even more so for the losing team. No one gains from this experience. Last year each and every game was a challenge and required thoughtful play by the athletes and creative coaching by the staff. Not so much this year.
Agreed, way too many blowouts already. The top teams should not have to wait till playoffs to see each other. This is bad for everyone!
The blow out issue is a problem in both Nassau and Suffolk. Everyone knows who the strong programs are and they should play in the same conference regardless of size of the school. 10+ goal margins are way to common and nobody benefits from those games.
Another blowout just in features HHHW. This needs to change!
It is so disappointing to see this year's league alignments in suffolk county varsity boys lacrosse. By splitting the A 's into 2 leagues it has watered down the play so much. I just left a game where the half time score was 19-2. This is not unusual for so many of the games this year. It is a disservice to the team winning and even more so for the losing team. No one gains from this experience. Last year each and every game was a challenge and required thoughtful play by the athletes and creative coaching by the staff. Not so much this year.
Agreed, way too many blowouts already. The top teams should not have to wait till playoffs to see each other. This is bad for everyone!
The blow out issue is a problem in both Nassau and Suffolk. Everyone knows who the strong programs are and they should play in the same conference regardless of size of the school. 10+ goal margins are way to common and nobody benefits from those games.
Another blowout just in features HHHW. This needs to change!
And another few HHHE, SE,NP,WM
stop the bleeding, not good for anyone!
Watched a game last week, the ball never went past the face off line. The conferences need to be realigned based on strength of programs. 18-0 is a waste of everyone's time.
I disagree - I believe that kids should develop by skill level - balance teams ends up having top few players getting all of the touches and not sharing the ball well and the weaker players never get any meaningful action and it will drive better players to leave which will in turn push more players out - the attrition rate for lacrosse is probably the same as all sports in all towns - in matter of fact rosters in GC are too large and should be closer to 18 per team - as for politics, go to most club team on LI and you will be in awe of the politics, recruiting and win at all cost attitude that take place for 3rd graders and up - GC is not perfect but it is better then most - Finally, I really doubt that the youth program has anything to do with boys deciding on Chaminade, if so that is pretty sad.
trend???? WISE up!!!!!
Every year G.C parents have sent their sons to Chaminade . Average is 5 to 18 kids a year . Just as Manhasset parents have done for years. And all will tell you it was not just for sports.
2-3 GC kids on Chaminade J V lacrosse team
2-4 GC kids on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are juniors
3-5 GC KIDS on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are seniors
And Garden City high school has always had great lacrosse program . And will continue to have strong lacrosse program.
One of the issues is that GC the youth organization and parents(politics) and the HS coaches(politics) buy into the "committed" idea at 3rd & 4th grade. How many kids develop after age 9? Right! But somehow the GC system has already culled the herd and determined who'll be the 24 next great players 7 years later. They do not develop the majority of "un-chosen" players early on in the process, thus loosing many of the kids. Then when it comes to going to HS they will loose 4-6 of the "committed" players to other schools.
The talent pool is in GC deep but they only focus on the few way too early.
Totally disagree. There are more than 300+ boys playing in the GC youth program between grades 3-6, 78 alone in the 6th grade. So how are we not developing the un-chosen players so early on? Please explain.
I'll answer by asking some questions...
How many kids get to play in 7th grade? Big drop off, yes?
Does that 6th grade A team play more games/ scrimmages, practice more (indoor & outdoor), and play better tournaments than the other 6th grade teams?
Do you just disagree about the kids developing or do you also disagree about the politics?
7th grade school team, 35-40 maybe, eliminated the combo team to allow another 35 to continue playing
5th and 6th grade A teams get far more attention than the B team or lower. Oddly enough, if enough kids play B instead of A, the directors purposefully neglect the B
Politics are rampant.
Helped with that point, thanks.
If the GC powers concentrated on developing MOST or a majority of the kids at young ages (not just the select 20-24) It would likely help the overall strength of the HS program too.
There are many talented kids that don't get the attention in the early years. Some kids will develop on their own and crack the roster, but I think it would be far better (and advantageous) to try to equally manage 2 or 3 quality "A" teams in a deeply talented area such as GC and help kids keep playing longer.
It really would be advantageous because after 8th grade GC will loose 20% of the "A" kids won't go to GCHS anyway.
Parents and coaches don't want this because they want their kids to be the "elite" 10 year old... which in the end can help with a roster spot in HS. If the kid is part of the remaining 18 - 19 kids from the select team it is almost a lay up. That is why politics come into play.
If any GC people are un-Happy you can always move to Garden City South and go to Carey !
Look in Newsday at the scores from yesterday's games in both Nassau and Suffolk. Disgusting amount of blow outs. It's bad for both teams and it part of the reason so many teams bring up underclassman that never play in meaningful games. They know the schedule has more than half of it's games as 10+ goal difference games.
C'mon guys, GC has won two state championships in the last three seasons. How many towns can say that?? Most traditional programs all have rebuilding periods (WIslip, Manhasset, CSH, etc.). GC presently has a lot of talented underclassmen starting and obviously not all of them are quite ready for prime time. As in any sport, it's tough to win a superbowl every year.
Nobody cares about GC except GC. Take it to your own thread!
If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions.
If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions.
Wow, by 5th grade? That's harsh! Some of the top performers on my son's team were not the best back then. In fact some hardly saw the field. Many of the "best" in 5th grade are now playing 2nd and 3rd line if at all.
If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions.
" identify kids no later than fifth-grade", That is ridiculous. Some kids fourth fifth and sixth grade still like playing other sports. Maybe they haven't even picked up a lacrosse stick yet. and some of your young stars will burn out. Let the kids compete. There are numerous college studs making impact in Division I who are late bloomers and did not pick up a lacrosse stick until much later. Let the kids compete. Stop trying controlling things for your kids. Just let the kids play let them compete let them earn their spots as they go through high school. You might be surprised by how good they become and how much better off the high school team is
The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions.
Yeah, why should kids play sports for fun. Let them go sit inside and play video games if all the want is to have fun with their friends. Doesn't everyone realize that the world revolves around me, I mean, my 9 yr old that I live through vicariously! /s
If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions.
At 5th grader my son was not one of the "identified" kids. Today he is the only one the group going to a top D 1. Real grateful this j@ck@ss isn't in charge.
If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions.
THIS - is the biggest problem with youth sports in particular, but it doesn't stop there. Putting people into "buckets" just goes against the human spirit.
C'mon guys, GC has won two state championships in the last three seasons. How many towns can say that?? Most traditional programs all have rebuilding periods (WIslip, Manhasset, CSH, etc.). GC presently has a lot of talented underclassmen starting and obviously not all of them are quite ready for prime time. As in any sport, it's tough to win a superbowl every year.
Their stellar youth program is not the reason for that success. Start with the fact that it is a lax town and many who played come back to raise their families there. Then add in that most have the resources to throw money at lax from day one via tournaments, the best equipment, camps, clinics, private coaches, participation on mulitple teams, etc. That is why they succeed. By the time these kids get to HS
the parentshave spend thousands to provide the coaches with a top quality product. It sure isn't happening on the youth program alone. There you have rampant politics, arbitrary decisions galore. My son also got completely hosed in youth lacrosse in GC and now is doing well at a HS level.
when did your son start playing ?
And the blowouts continue on Thursday. Is there even a goalie in the cage!!
The tool who said kids should be indentified in 5th grade must be one of those whose son is a super star now, but sees all the other boys catching up to his son and will pass him by real soon.
If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions.
Paul Rabil started playing lax when he was 13... you are a fool and know absolutely nothing about the development of children, most specifically, boys.
Garden City with a big rebound effort this weekend against Duxbury. Anyone think the trojans can bounce back and make a late season push for states?
Each game has a goalie, bad point!
Garden City with a big rebound effort this weekend against Duxbury. Anyone think the trojans can bounce back and make a late season push for states?
They better beat Duxbury....they are a better team. They can win the "B" conference in Nassau, I think it is up in the air with maybe Lynbrook the favorite
Duxbury is no indication. gc beats them by 10 every year. gc offense may get their 10 against them but...probably give up 12
It's a high school game...why not let the kids play the game w/o the disgruntled parent predicting a loss!
And the blowouts continue on Thursday. Is there even a goalie in the cage!!
There are shots a Goalie is suppose to stop there are some they will never stop. There are also six other players on that side of the field who should be playing defense. If you don't have the Balls to stand in front of a shot you have no right to comment on any Goalie.
ding dig ding we have a winner, I made the original post to reflect they way lacrosse is treated in my town, not the way it should be treated but the way it is treated. the HS team is OK but who knows how much better it could be if some of those "B and C" players were not turned off by the coddling of the 5th grade superstars.
I am also pleased by all the negative replys it got.
Garden City with a big rebound effort this weekend against Duxbury. Anyone think the trojans can bounce back and make a late season push for states?
What's the story at face off for GC?
GC should sweep thru their conference even though they are a little weaker than usual.
GC should sweep thru their conference even though they are a little weaker than usual.
Hello Anonymous, I would like you to meet Lynbrook, Lynbrook say hello to Anonymous and introduce yoursself
And the blowouts continue on Thursday. Is there even a goalie in the cage!!
There are shots a Goalie is suppose to stop there are some they will never stop. There are also six other players on that side of the field who should be playing defense. If you don't have the Balls to stand in front of a shot you have no right to comment on any Goalie.
Hear, Hear!
Hopefully some better games today. I saw Manhasset beat Smith town West by a goal. today SME plays whitman-should be a competitive game and not a blow out. Same goes for WM playing conetquot today and then yorkville tomorrow...
And the blowouts continue on Thursday. Is there even a goalie in the cage!!
who even says something like this?????????
Smithtown East plays Greenwich Saturday in Smithtown. Should be a very competitive game.
And the blowouts continue on Thursday. Is there even a goalie in the cage!!
There are shots a Goalie is suppose to stop there are some they will never stop. There are also six other players on that side of the field who should be playing defense. If you don't have the Balls to stand in front of a shot you have no right to comment on any Goalie.
Hear, Hear!
Absolutely! Obviously someone has never stood in a cage or taken a shot on the knee. Give it a try and come back and tell us how you did. From our youngest goalies to our HS kids- you've got my admiration.
GC should sweep thru their conference even though they are a little weaker than usual.
can you say Carey?
Smithtown East plays Greenwich Saturday in Smithtown. Should be a very competitive game.
I would love to be in the stands with the Greenwich upper crusty folks when the calls and score starts to go against SE. Those Smithtonian parents are sure to put on show that will leave the visiting team parents in awe....
Whitman Middle of road team, Only one senior starts. But SE is lights out. SE By 10. Connetquot can hang with WM , but Melville by 4
Do you mean same Carey that lost to Pequa by 10 goals? Just checking
GC should sweep thru their conference even though they are a little weaker than usual.
can you say Carey?
The question was regarding Conference 2.. Pequa and Syosset clearly the top 2 in Conf A
just so you know. A is not superior to B. its school size. clearly.
"I would love to be in the stands with the Greenwich upper crusty folks when the calls and score starts to go against SE. Those Smithtonian parents are sure to put on show that will leave the visiting team parents in awe...."
Game is at SE not SW....
Better yet address the "a little weaker" GC team. They are no where near last years team and will be on the down swing for the next few years. Nothing coming up through the ranks to brag about. Now the best player face off specialist is out as well. Coach has to play the kids he made promises to so they wouldn't think about going somewhere else to play so be prepared to be subpar for a while.
Winning their conference is no big deal. Watch out not only for Carey but there is Calhoun playing well on their schedule. Calhoun goalie could be if not is one of the best out there. And they are a young team that like to battle
Smithtown east up 8-6 over Whitman at mid 3rd qtr. Not blowout yet as previous poster predicted.
"I would love to be in the stands with the Greenwich upper crusty folks when the calls and score starts to go against SE. Those Smithtonian parents are sure to put on show that will leave the visiting team parents in awe...."
Game is at SE not SW....
Don't kid yourself, one in the same....
the expression is one and the same
..The expression is one and the same. please refrain from mangling idioms. thank you.
..The expression is one and the same. please refrain from mangling idioms. thank you.
I like "one in the same". However, thanks for the eloquent retort. By the way, you left out a comma, and the T should capitalized in Thank you.
cant go a whole competitive games without hearing smithtown east parents complain
How'd Whitman look against East?
How'd Whitman look against East?
Ok at times. Were actually tied at one point. East pulled ahead quickly winning most of the possesions.
How 'bout that WM upset??
"I would love to be in the stands with the Greenwich upper crusty folks when the calls and score starts to go against SE. Those Smithtonian parents are sure to put on show that will leave the visiting team parents in awe...."
Game is at SE not SW....
Don't kid yourself, one in the same....
Lol totally agree. Either way Greenwich parents will be shocked by the behavior and bad sportsmanship in the stands. Most times Smithtown mothers are even worse than the dads. Whether they're winning or losing it's never pretty , both East and West.
How'd Whitman look against East?
brennan had 21 saves and not one of them cheap , keep them in game , played awesome
Hey, layoff the Smithtown East parents! Their kids are perfect and the sooner you all realize that, the better off we will all be. Coach is a total prince and and is on the short list for the Nobel prize!
Whitman Middle of road team, Only one senior starts. But SE is lights out. SE By 10. Connetquot can hang with WM , but Melville by 4
Connetquot beat Ward Melville 10-9 in double overtime.
Greenwich folks will totally feel the warmth os SE creatures!
"I would love to be in the stands with the Greenwich upper crusty folks when the calls and score starts to go against SE. Those Smithtonian parents are sure to put on show that will leave the visiting team parents in awe...."
Game is at SE not SW....
Don't kid yourself, one in the same....
Lol totally agree. Either way Greenwich parents will be shocked by the behavior and bad sportsmanship in the stands. Most times Smithtown mothers are even worse than the dads. Whether they're winning or losing it's never pretty , both East and West.
Why all the hate? East has a great day planned for the visitors including a post game bbq. Will be a great day of lacrosse, lighten up francis!
Whitman Middle of road team, Only one senior starts. But SE is lights out. SE By 10. Connetquot can hang with WM , but Melville by 4
Connetquot beat Ward Melville 10-9 in double overtime.
F/O a factor in both games
Why all the hate? You tell me.
Greewich would not want to break bread with you whiners. Would be suprised if any of them hang around if you display the arrogance that has become commomplace in smithtown.
so true. They would rather eat at Peter Lugers rather than listen to your dribble while eating Costco burgers.
Hey, layoff the Smithtown East parents! Their kids are perfect and the sooner you all realize that, the better off we will all be. Coach is a total prince and and is on the short list for the Nobel prize!
I thought Chaminad got its own thread
Whitman Middle of road team, Only one senior starts. But SE is lights out. SE By 10. Connetquot can hang with WM , but Melville by 4
Connetquot beat Ward Melville 10-9 in double overtime.
Connetquot/WM game probably the worst officiating I have witnessd in 20 years of watching high school lacrosse. But even worse the behavior of parents on both sides....perhaps reason for bad officiating?? Neither set can lose or win with dignity.....embarrassing
Whitman Middle of road team, Only one senior starts. But SE is lights out. SE By 10. Connetquot can hang with WM , but Melville by 4
Connetquot beat Ward Melville 10-9 in double overtime.
Connetquot/WM game probably the worst officiating I have witnessd in 20 years of watching high school lacrosse. But even worse the behavior of parents on both sides....perhaps reason for bad officiating?? Neither set can lose or win with dignity.....embarrassing
A lot of officiating is bad. Throw the flag for a penalty. To many use the cop out of play on.
One official had the audacity to say a push can't happen when a player is going down for a ground ball. When in fact it a cross check could have been called. I've been to about 14 games this season. The boys have played but the refs in a 1/4 determined the out come.
Been around for a long time. I'll agree our parents are not model citizens. I've found WM parents to be the bottom of the barrel closely followed by Connetquot.
Chaminade beat Manhasset 8-4 today.
"I would love to be in the stands with the Greenwich upper crusty folks when the calls and score starts to go against SE. Those Smithtonian parents are sure to put on show that will leave the visiting team parents in awe...."
Game is at SE not SW....
Don't kid yourself, one in the same....
Lol totally agree. Either way Greenwich parents will be shocked by the behavior and bad sportsmanship in the stands. Most times Smithtown mothers are even worse than the dads. Whether they're winning or losing it's never pretty , both East and West.
Great day of lax over at SE today. After a nice statement win, both teams enjoyed meeting each other over a great post game lunch . The way it should be.
WM parent here, not sure i understand your bottom of the barrel comment as i was at the game at conetquat...
like every other team, we have a few parents that scream and yell, but nothing disrespectful. If you don't want passion, go watch fencing, WM great at that also.
By the way, beat Yorktown pretty good today...
Also wm parent...beat yorktown very good, even with a 3 minute un-releasable stick penalty for a stick they checked up front...
Refs are hating wm very early in season. gave the game to and tried to give it to yorktown...
WM, pretty good, look forward to playoffs.
Also wm parent...beat yorktown very good, even with a 3 minute un-releasable stick penalty for a stick they checked up front...
Refs are hating wm very early in season. gave the game to and tried to give it to yorktown...
WM, pretty good, look forward to playoffs.
So is Connequot , NP and East. This is not the 2013 team ... Good luck
I was at a double secret refs meeting, it's was agreed, we all hate WM. All calls will go against WM. The kids are great, we hate the parents.
The Ref
I was at a double secret refs meeting, it's was agreed, we all hate WM. All calls will go against WM. The kids are great, we hate the parents.
The Ref
It was supposed to be a secret - (not the meeting just about hating the parents)
Why all the hate? You tell me.
Synonym for hate = envy. But not sure why anyone even envious. How many state (or even L.I.) championship trophies does SE have in the case? They are the Syosset of Suffolk. All bluster with no hardware.
Why all the hate for SE? Somebody afraid their team aint gonna get by em?
yet again we get the Whitman goalies stats. Thanks for the update coach.
Why all the hate? You tell me.
Synonym for hate = envy. But not sure why anyone even envious. How many state (or even L.I.) championship trophies does SE have in the case? They are the Syosset of Suffolk. All bluster with no hardware.
Syosset has a LI Championship and you are a _ _ _ _
A county championship in the countties toughest league is a big acomplishment. You have to start somewhere and build from there. Remember, you are only as good as your last game.
A county championship in the countties toughest league is a big acomplishment. You have to start somewhere and build from there. Remember, you are only as good as your last game.
If you can't get off the Island and win a state, a county is nice but nothing close to the hubris and bluster blowing out of SE that would make you think they were some kind of dynasty. Hardly that. Lets stay a little modest and humble until they fill a case with multiple pieces of State hardware (ala WM, WI, GC, Manhasset).
A county championship in the countties toughest league is a big acomplishment. You have to start somewhere and build from there. Remember, you are only as good as your last game.
If you can't get off the Island and win a state, a county is nice but nothing close to the hubris and bluster blowing out of SE that would make you think they were some kind of dynasty. Hardly that. Lets stay a little modest and humble until they fill a case with multiple pieces of State hardware (ala WM, WI, GC, Manhasset).
Stop living in the past! Every year is different. Great to see talent emerging from programs nobody noticed in the past. Face facts, GC, Manhasset, WI weak. Lynbrook Connetquot and a few other lesser known programs looking powerful. Nobody cares about your past championships except those that won. Everyone loves an underdog! Who wants it?
Chaminade beat Manhasset 8-4 today.
Changes coming on O
One of Manhasset's top attackmen went down late in game. Any one know how serious??
Greewich would not want to break bread with you whiners. Would be suprised if any of them hang around if you display the arrogance that has become commomplace in smithtown.
then you need to explain who all those people were in the parking lot after the game and why the Greenwich bus was there so late
A county championship in the countties toughest league is a big acomplishment. You have to start somewhere and build from there. Remember, you are only as good as your last game.
If you can't get off the Island and win a state, a county is nice but nothing close to the hubris and bluster blowing out of SE that would make you think they were some kind of dynasty. Hardly that. Lets stay a little modest and humble until they fill a case with multiple pieces of State hardware (ala WM, WI, GC, Manhasset).
Stop living in the past! Every year is different. Great to see talent emerging from programs nobody noticed in the past. Face facts, GC, Manhasset, WI weak. Lynbrook Connetquot and a few other lesser known programs looking powerful. Nobody cares about your past championships except those that won. Everyone loves an underdog! Who wants it?
Port Washington might raise a few eyebrows this year
Great job by Connetquot, beating Ward Melville, for the first time in program history!
Port Washington might raise a few eyebrows this year
then again they might not, good team, third best in Nassau A's but I don't expect any eyebrow to be raised, maybe a head nod or a wink but certainly not a raised eyebrow
What makes Connetquot so good this year?
What makes Connetquot so good this year?
Returned a strong attack and are playing very disciplined smart lacrosse. Go watch a game, I did and they are quite impressive
Standings For BOYS LACROSSE
Last Tally Date : 4/13/2015 3:39:46 PM
Team Name League Record Overall Record Total Points
LEAGUE I (contest details)
Ward Melville 3-1-0 4-1-0 125.000
Northport 5-0-0 5-1-0 123.900
Connetquot 5-0-0 6-0-0 120.100
Sachem East 3-1-0 4-1-0 119.000
Bay Shore 3-1-0 4-2-0 108.100
Commack HS 2-3-0 3-3-0 107.500
Sachem North 3-2-0 6-2-0 103.700
Lindenhurst 3-2-0 4-3-0 99.900
Middle Country 2-3-0 2-4-0 99.200
William Floyd 1-4-0 1-6-0 94.200
Longwood 0-4-0 1-6-0 93.700
Brentwood 0-4-0 0-5-0 89.700
Pate-Medford 0-5-0 1-6-0 83.700
LEAGUE II (contest details)
Smithtown East 5-0-0 6-0-0 125.900
Smithtown West 5-0-0 6-1-0 123.200
West Islip 3-0-0 4-2-0 117.200
H H Hills East 4-0-0 7-0-0 114.900
H H Hills West 3-2-0 4-2-0 113.700
Walt Whitman 3-1-0 5-1-0 110.400
Riverhead 2-2-0 4-3-0 103.700
East Islip 1-4-0 1-4-0 102.200
Bellport 1-3-0 2-4-0 100.200
North Babylon 1-3-0 3-3-0 93.700
West Babylon 0-5-0 0-6-0 92.700
Deer Park 0-4-0 0-5-0 90.200
Copiague 0-4-0 0-5-0 80.700
LEAGUE III (contest details)
Shoreham WR 5-1-0 5-1-0 133.000
Harborfields 4-1-0 4-1-0 122.330
Miller Place 4-2-0 4-2-0 120.000
Islip 3-2-0 3-3-0 114.000
Sayville 3-2-0 3-2-0 112.000
Comsewogue 3-2-0 3-2-0 111.000
Hauppauge 3-2-0 3-3-0 106.870
Elwood/J Glenn 3-2-0 3-3-0 106.530
Mt. Sinai 2-3-0 2-3-0 106.000
Bayport-Blue Pt 3-3-0 3-3-0 101.870
Eastport/SManor 2-3-0 2-3-0 99.670
Rocky Point 2-3-0 2-3-0 98.200
Huntington 2-3-0 2-3-0 96.200
Westhampton 2-3-0 2-3-0 94.530
Kings Park 1-4-0 1-5-0 90.000
EH/BH/PIER 0-6-0 1-6-0 69.200
LEAGUE IV (contest details)
Matt/Gpt/Shld 3-0-0 3-1-0 118.530
Babylon 2-0-0 3-1-0 118.330
Port Jefferson 2-2-0 2-3-0 110.200
Center Moriches 1-2-0 2-2-0 108.330
McGann-Mercy 0-2-0 0-2-0 95.200
Hampton Bays 2-2-0 2-2-0 93.730
Southampton/Ross 0-2-0 0-3-0 90.200
NON LEAGUE (contest details)
SAINT JOSEPH 0-0-0 0-1-0 100.000
How do they determine points?
What makes Connetquot so good this year?
Returned a strong attack and are playing very disciplined smart lacrosse. Go watch a game, I did and they are quite impressive
Looking forward to the Connetquot Northport game i hope they both head in undefeated in legaue 1.
'Quot has Sachems and HHW
Nport has Sachems SE and WM
Northport has a home advantage for that stretch; Connetquot is mostly away. Not sure home field means much but i would say going deep into the season could be a factor.
What makes Connetquot so good this year?
Returned a strong attack and are playing very disciplined smart lacrosse. Go watch a game, I did and they are quite impressive
Looking forward to the Connetquot Northport game i hope they both head in undefeated in legaue 1.
'Quot has Sachems and HHW
Nport has Sachems SE and WM
Northport has a home advantage for that stretch; Connetquot is mostly away. Not sure home field means much but i would say going deep into the season could be a factor.
In between the 'Quot/NP matchup and now, check out the Quot/HW game next week. Coaches both coach 91 and sons play on their team. Bragging rights for the summer!
After today, good test coming up for Smithtown West. If you assume today will be their 7th win of year vs deer park, the win loss records of their opponents in their 7 wins is 12-26 combined. They have HHE, Whitman and Smithtown East beginning Thurs. Their combined win loss records are 18-1.
Great job by Connetquot, beating Ward Melville, for the first time in program history!
WM was just simply out coached
Port Washington might raise a few eyebrows this year
then again they might not, good team, third best in Nassau A's but I don't expect any eyebrow to be raised, maybe a head nod or a wink but certainly not a raised eyebrow
Any results for Farmingdale vs Port today?
Port Washington might raise a few eyebrows this year
then again they might not, good team, third best in Nassau A's but I don't expect any eyebrow to be raised, maybe a head nod or a wink but certainly not a raised eyebrow
Any results for Farmingdale vs Port today?
Port won 14 to 5
Great job by Connetquot, beating Ward Melville, for the first time in program history!
WM was just simply out coached
Not the first time last year saw it several times how about the stall that was called vs Sachem North in the 4th up 3 with 6 minutes left and dominating play...oy vay
What makes Connetquot so good this year?
Returned a strong attack and are playing very disciplined smart lacrosse. Go watch a game, I did and they are quite impressive
Looking forward to the Connetquot Northport game i hope they both head in undefeated in legaue 1.
'Quot has Sachems and HHW
Nport has Sachems SE and WM
Northport has a home advantage for that stretch; Connetquot is mostly away. Not sure home field means much but i would say going deep into the season could be a factor.
In between the 'Quot/NP matchup and now, check out the Quot/HW game next week. Coaches both coach 91 and sons play on their team. Bragging rights for the summer!
'Quot the [lacrosse] are you talking about?
Did Mineola and Cold Spring Harbor play last night? Anyone know the outcome?
Did Mineola and Cold Spring Harbor play last night? Anyone know the outcome?
CSH won
Thank you. Score? Mineola has a few good players and seems to be much improved. Just curious how they measured up,
11-5
Thank you. Score? Mineola has a few good players and seems to be much improved. Just curious how they measured up,
Dad I think you know how it ended up. No one giving props to your minneola kid.
Umm no. CSH resident. Could not find the score in Newsday or Laxpower. Don't think Mineola has been at all relevant since the days of Beresheim Flynn and the Lowe's though. Why not Keep it positive...
Does anyone know what the playoff requirements are for Suffolk A Boys. Now that there are two leagues are the two leagues merged for the playoffs and the points system from Sect ix will determine a team's Seeding. The tentative brackets show 13 teams would make the playoffs
Someone else told me any team with 6 league wins gets in. I am aware of the old "Sachem" rule but that doesn't sound right in this day and age.
Dad I think you know how it ended up. No one giving props to your minneola kid.
Actually I was interested as well so thank you and I am a Suffolk guy.
Umm no. CSH resident. Could not find the score in Newsday or Laxpower. Don't think Mineola has been at all relevant since the days of Beresheim Flynn and the Lowe's though. Why not Keep it positive...
There's some names from the past. Wonder if any of them have kids playing now.
Umm no. CSH resident. Could not find the score in Newsday or Laxpower. Don't think Mineola has been at all relevant since the days of Beresheim Flynn and the Lowe's though. Why not Keep it positive...
There's some names from the past. Wonder if any of them have kids playing now.
Grandkids
easy on the grandkids...not quite yet...
Looks like Suffolk B is a death match every single game. One team is struggling, but every other team is going toe to toe in every game. Should be very interesting to see who's left standing at the end. Word is, 8 wins in conference and your in the playoffs. These teams will either be battle tested or beaten up. Only time will tell.
this new Suffolk schedule really sucks...
Most powerful schools have had only one or two real games thus far and 5 that weren't good for anyone.
Worse, JV hasn't had any real games...
10 plus goals in first half mean starters are pulled and benches are cleared, no way to prepare for the SME, SMW, WM Masapequa, syosset...
Would much prefer to have a record of 4 and 4 against tough teams than undefeated or 1 loss at this stage.
Forget about national rankings, they are a load of crap. In suffolk at least, the objective is to win states. Can't push your team to play under pressure if every game is 13-2...
this new Suffolk schedule really sucks...
Most powerful schools have had only one or two real games thus far and 5 that weren't good for anyone.
Worse, JV hasn't had any real games...
10 plus goals in first half mean starters are pulled and benches are cleared, no way to prepare for the SME, SMW, WM Masapequa, syosset...
Would much prefer to have a record of 4 and 4 against tough teams than undefeated or 1 loss at this stage.
Forget about national rankings, they are a load of crap. In suffolk at least, the objective is to win states. Can't push your team to play under pressure if every game is 13-2...
Unfortunately high school lacrosse is not very competitive. Every conference on Long Island has a few strong teams but that is about it. There needs to be a Long Island Power Conference. At the very least, teams should be able to schedule more non-league games.
this new Suffolk schedule really sucks...
Most powerful schools have had only one or two real games thus far and 5 that weren't good for anyone.
Worse, JV hasn't had any real games...
10 plus goals in first half mean starters are pulled and benches are cleared, no way to prepare for the SME, SMW, WM Masapequa, syosset...
Would much prefer to have a record of 4 and 4 against tough teams than undefeated or 1 loss at this stage.
Forget about national rankings, they are a load of crap. In suffolk at least, the objective is to win states. Can't push your team to play under pressure if every game is 13-2...
Ah 13-2 (try 14 or 15 to 2) but I say why a power conference? Imagine if there was a power conference would you have put Connetiquot there. If they didn't make it into the power conference they would be undefeated and everyone would question their accomplishments.
Maybe try this on for size; each conference has 12 or so teams. 4 teams in each are very good 4 will give each other good games and 4 others will be the door mats.
Take 2 of those 4 door mats off the schedule and replace them with 2 non conference "challenge" games.
Since you mentioned Suffolk
Does Northport, Connetiquot (not a surprise to me), Ward Melville really need to play Brentwood or Longwood. No! That game doesn't help either team. But you and I both know you put those 3 teams into a power conference the bitching starts why can we have a safe game... blah blah blah
Honestly since you mentioned states how much do you know about the rest of the state? There are powder puff games in all of the NY sections 8, 1, 9, 2, 4, 5, 6,3, 7, 10. Brentwood/Longwood, East Islip/West Babylon or Baldwin/Valley Stream would be better than 500 clubs looking at a playoff spot.
Many of the public school sections (in and out of the state) are broken up in 1/3 just like Suffolk; the good, the bad, and the ugly.
this new Suffolk schedule really sucks...
Most powerful schools have had only one or two real games thus far and 5 that weren't good for anyone.
Worse, JV hasn't had any real games...
10 plus goals in first half mean starters are pulled and benches are cleared, no way to prepare for the SME, SMW, WM Masapequa, syosset...
Would much prefer to have a record of 4 and 4 against tough teams than undefeated or 1 loss at this stage.
Forget about national rankings, they are a load of crap. In suffolk at least, the objective is to win states. Can't push your team to play under pressure if every game is 13-2...
Ah 13-2 (try 14 or 15 to 2) but I say why a power conference? Imagine if there was a power conference would you have put Connetiquot there. If they didn't make it into the power conference they would be undefeated and everyone would question their accomplishments.
Maybe try this on for size; each conference has 12 or so teams. 4 teams in each are very good 4 will give each other good games and 4 others will be the door mats.
Take 2 of those 4 door mats off the schedule and replace them with 2 non conference "challenge" games.
Since you mentioned Suffolk
Does Northport, Connetiquot (not a surprise to me), Ward Melville really need to play Brentwood or Longwood. No! That game doesn't help either team. But you and I both know you put those 3 teams into a power conference the bitching starts why can we have a safe game... blah blah blah
Honestly since you mentioned states how much do you know about the rest of the state? There are powder puff games in all of the NY sections 8, 1, 9, 2, 4, 5, 6,3, 7, 10. Brentwood/Longwood, East Islip/West Babylon or Baldwin/Valley Stream would be better than 500 clubs looking at a playoff spot.
Many of the public school sections (in and out of the state) are broken up in 1/3 just like Suffolk; the good, the bad, and the ugly.
You are very correct about section 8 having terrible games just like section 11. Section 8 A has Freeport, Hempstead, Valley Stream, Uniondale, and Plainview. That's 5 teams that lose by at least 10 to everyone else in the conference except each other.
this new Suffolk schedule really sucks...
Most powerful schools have had only one or two real games thus far and 5 that weren't good for anyone.
Worse, JV hasn't had any real games...
10 plus goals in first half mean starters are pulled and benches are cleared, no way to prepare for the SME, SMW, WM Masapequa, syosset...
Would much prefer to have a record of 4 and 4 against tough teams than undefeated or 1 loss at this stage.
Forget about national rankings, they are a load of crap. In suffolk at least, the objective is to win states. Can't push your team to play under pressure if every game is 13-2...
Ah 13-2 (try 14 or 15 to 2) but I say why a power conference? Imagine if there was a power conference would you have put Connetiquot there. If they didn't make it into the power conference they would be undefeated and everyone would question their accomplishments.
Maybe try this on for size; each conference has 12 or so teams. 4 teams in each are very good 4 will give each other good games and 4 others will be the door mats.
Take 2 of those 4 door mats off the schedule and replace them with 2 non conference "challenge" games.
Since you mentioned Suffolk
Does Northport, Connetiquot (not a surprise to me), Ward Melville really need to play Brentwood or Longwood. No! That game doesn't help either team. But you and I both know you put those 3 teams into a power conference the bitching starts why can we have a safe game... blah blah blah
Honestly since you mentioned states how much do you know about the rest of the state? There are powder puff games in all of the NY sections 8, 1, 9, 2, 4, 5, 6,3, 7, 10. Brentwood/Longwood, East Islip/West Babylon or Baldwin/Valley Stream would be better than 500 clubs looking at a playoff spot.
Many of the public school sections (in and out of the state) are broken up in 1/3 just like Suffolk; the good, the bad, and the ugly.
You are very correct about section 8 having terrible games just like section 11. Section 8 A has Freeport, Hempstead, Valley Stream, Uniondale, and Plainview. That's 5 teams that lose by at least 10 to everyone else in the conference except each other.
Section 1 and 9 are no better.
Port Wash vs 'Pequa good name today. lets celebrate the good ones. is weather a factor
West Islip vs Ward Melville Saturday another good one this weekend.
this new Suffolk schedule really sucks...
Most powerful schools have had only one or two real games thus far and 5 that weren't good for anyone.
Worse, JV hasn't had any real games...
10 plus goals in first half mean starters are pulled and benches are cleared, no way to prepare for the SME, SMW, WM Masapequa, syosset...
Would much prefer to have a record of 4 and 4 against tough teams than undefeated or 1 loss at this stage.
Forget about national rankings, they are a load of crap. In suffolk at least, the objective is to win states. Can't push your team to play under pressure if every game is 13-2...
Ah 13-2 (try 14 or 15 to 2) but I say why a power conference? Imagine if there was a power conference would you have put Connetiquot there. If they didn't make it into the power conference they would be undefeated and everyone would question their accomplishments.
Maybe try this on for size; each conference has 12 or so teams. 4 teams in each are very good 4 will give each other good games and 4 others will be the door mats.
Take 2 of those 4 door mats off the schedule and replace them with 2 non conference "challenge" games.
Since you mentioned Suffolk
Does Northport, Connetiquot (not a surprise to me), Ward Melville really need to play Brentwood or Longwood. No! That game doesn't help either team. But you and I both know you put those 3 teams into a power conference the bitching starts why can we have a safe game... blah blah blah
Honestly since you mentioned states how much do you know about the rest of the state? There are powder puff games in all of the NY sections 8, 1, 9, 2, 4, 5, 6,3, 7, 10. Brentwood/Longwood, East Islip/West Babylon or Baldwin/Valley Stream would be better than 500 clubs looking at a playoff spot.
Many of the public school sections (in and out of the state) are broken up in 1/3 just like Suffolk; the good, the bad, and the ugly.
You are very correct about section 8 having terrible games just like section 11. Section 8 A has Freeport, Hempstead, Valley Stream, Uniondale, and Plainview. That's 5 teams that lose by at least 10 to everyone else in the conference except each other.
Section 1 and 9 are no better.
Section 2 may have the best parity but still top heavy. You say prep for states, they way to prep for states is cross section games. Drop 2 league games and play out of conference.
Lets see how Darian Manhasset goes and we will see how Sect 2 is
Pequa by double digits today?
Pequa by double digits today?
NO way!
Pequa by double digits today?
NO way!
Port gave Syossett a run for their money - should be a close game today
Pequa by double digits today?
NO way!
Port gave Syossett a run for their money - should be a close game today
16-6 final, and Pequa pumped the brakes.
Pequa by double digits today?
NO way!
Port gave Syossett a run for their money - should be a close game today
16-6 final, and Pequa pumped the brakes.
Impressive win, thought it would be closer. Looking forward to Syosset next week.
Pequa by double digits today?
NO way!
Port gave Syossett a run for their money - should be a close game today
16-6 final, and Pequa pumped the brakes.
Impressive win, thought it would be closer. Looking forward to Syosset next week.
Thought Port would give Pequa a much tougher game.
I think many thought 'port would give a better game. Let's see if my latest prediction which throws Suffolk A into a tizzy comes through. Both Ward Melville at Northport win against league 2 foes.
Big game in Nassau 4/24... Strap them up boys. Playoffs are coming, this is the part of the season keep your bodies healthy and jump on your study's early in the last qtr. Leave it all on the field everyday.
Pequa by double digits today?
NO way!
Port gave Syossett a run for their money - should be a close game today
16-6 final, and Pequa pumped the brakes.
You're such a loser
Northport, 16 v. Smithtown East, 10
At Northport today
Northport, 16 v. Smithtown East, 10
At Northport today
Did anyone see that coming? Haven't been following NP too closely were they missing any players early in the season?
that guy that posted at 10am saw it coming predicted both WM and Northtport wins...
nice picks.
Northport, 16 v. Smithtown East, 10
At Northport today
What was the face off battle like, between two of the best in the country?
that guy that posted at 10am saw it coming predicted both WM and Northtport wins...
nice picks.
Thanks. I've been talking about Northport a while now. Unfortunately I am not a fan of theirs because of one middie but think their poles are very good. Not enough to make up for their cheap [lacrosse] middie.
I also called the Carey season. Saw them last year tare apart a team I thought was good from west/put. Although not a fan.
Like 'Pequa not so much a Syosett fan. But that will be a good game. If Pequa rips up Syosett suffolk has a lot to worry about. But then again that is why tHey play
Northport, 16 v. Smithtown East, 10
At Northport today
Did anyone see that coming? Haven't been following NP too closely were they missing any players early in the season?
What are you talking about? You sound like they were 3-4 heading into the game. They were 7-1 with a 5 game (now 6) game win streak and have been destroying everybody.
What's up with Manhasset and GC? They are a combined 8-9 with only 3 wins between the two them against better than .500 teams. Has the lax world shifted that much?
Nassau B is a mess. The usual top teams floundering. Some rebuilding others praying.
Northport, 16 v. Smithtown East, 10
At Northport today
Did anyone see that coming? Haven't been following NP too closely were they missing any players early in the season?
What are you talking about? You sound like they were 3-4 heading into the game. They were 7-1 with a 5 game (now 6) game win streak and have been destroying everybody.
You should work on your reading comprehension. I asked a simple question. I also stated that I had not been following NP. I knew they lost by 9 goals to a team from Nassau County early in the season. I did not make it sound like anything.
I questioned if they were missing players early in the season because the loss early on does not make sense to me due to the fact that they have been doing so well.
I suspect neither of those schools are happy with their records but I would not be surprised to see either one of them to make a nice run in the playoffs. Both have played pretty challenging schedules and Set beat a solid SW team and GC beat a strong St Paul's squad. I believe Set plays Lynbrook and GC plays Carey this week. Those games will provide a lot of color regarding Nassau B. It's nice to see this dogfight expand to some other schools.
I suspect neither of those schools are happy with their records but I would not be surprised to see either one of them to make a nice run in the playoffs. Both have played pretty challenging schedules and Set beat a solid SW team and GC beat a strong St Paul's squad. I believe Set plays Lynbrook and GC plays Carey this week. Those games will provide a lot of color regarding Nassau B. It's nice to see this dogfight expand to some other schools.
GC will get on a bus and go 3 hours south to play St. Paul's. They could practically walk to Chaminade and play them instead. They clearly want no part of the Flyers.
How about you just be grateful for the players who leave GC to play for your precious Flyers. You wouldn't be nearly the program without them
I suspect neither of those schools are happy with their records but I would not be surprised to see either one of them to make a nice run in the playoffs. Both have played pretty challenging schedules and Set beat a solid SW team and GC beat a strong St Paul's squad. I believe Set plays Lynbrook and GC plays Carey this week. Those games will provide a lot of color regarding Nassau B. It's nice to see this dogfight expand to some other schools.
GC will get on a bus and go 3 hours south to play St. Paul's. They could practically walk to Chaminade and play them instead. They clearly want no part of the Flyers.
How about you just be grateful for the players who leave GC to play for your precious Flyers. You wouldn't be nearly the program without them
I suspect neither of those schools are happy with their records but I would not be surprised to see either one of them to make a nice run in the playoffs. Both have played pretty challenging schedules and Set beat a solid SW team and GC beat a strong St Paul's squad. I believe Set plays Lynbrook and GC plays Carey this week. Those games will provide a lot of color regarding Nassau B. It's nice to see this dogfight expand to some other schools.
GC will get on a bus and go 3 hours south to play St. Paul's. They could practically walk to Chaminade and play them instead. They clearly want no part of the Flyers.
You're ducking the issue....
Thanks to GC virtually forbidding kids from playing for club teams outside the select town team , the program is suffering a downtrade, maybe temporary, but we shall see. In the past kids played PAL on one of 4 equally talented teams. In addition, some kids played on summer tryout club teams. This approach provided a pretty good feeder system for the h.s. team, the results are in black and white. Now part of the deal seems to be an implicit deal that you must play for asst. coaches in summer or have no chance to play as a h.s. kid. freshmen get promoted to varsity etc.
Nassau B is a mess. The usual top teams floundering. Some rebuilding others praying.
It's not a mess. The traditional powerhouse programs are in the twilight of their dominance as youth lacrosse has spread like wildfire across the landscape. PAL programs founded in last 7-10 years are now starting to produce fruit which has leveled the playing field and upset the concentration of power and dominance of those programs.
HHHW vs. Connetquot should be a great game today. Predictions?
Today Lynbrook vs Carey 4:45pm lets see what happens
Today Lynbrook vs Carey 4:45pm lets see what happens
This is the Nassau B showdown.
Today Lynbrook vs Carey 4:45pm lets see what happens
Does Lynbrook still have grass fields?
If so, it's gonna be a mess of a game.
Nassau B is a mess. The usual top teams floundering. Some rebuilding others praying.
It's not a mess. The traditional powerhouse programs are in the twilight of their dominance as youth lacrosse has spread like wildfire across the landscape. PAL programs founded in last 7-10 years are now starting to produce fruit which has leveled the playing field and upset the concentration of power and dominance of those programs.
Well said, Connetquot is a prime example of a product of a stronger youth league, leading them to the top of the standings. The traditional towns definitely have more competition.
Nassau B is a mess. The usual top teams floundering. Some rebuilding others praying.
It's not a mess. The traditional powerhouse programs are in the twilight of their dominance as youth lacrosse has spread like wildfire across the landscape. PAL programs founded in last 7-10 years are now starting to produce fruit which has leveled the playing field and upset the concentration of power and dominance of those programs.
Well said, Connetquot is a prime example of a product of a stronger youth league, leading them to the top of the standings. The traditional towns definitely have more competition.
Club teams have also played a major role in helping kids from non traditional powe programs.
Thanks to GC virtually forbidding kids from playing for club teams outside the select town team , the program is suffering a downtrade, maybe temporary, but we shall see. In the past kids played PAL on one of 4 equally talented teams. In addition, some kids played on summer tryout club teams. This approach provided a pretty good feeder system for the h.s. team, the results are in black and white. Now part of the deal seems to be an implicit deal that you must play for asst. coaches in summer or have no chance to play as a h.s. kid. freshmen get promoted to varsity etc.
Self Dealing and conflicts of interest like this are what is ruining lacrosse. The best kids should play regardless of where they play or who they play for. HS sports should be about one thing and one thing only - the kids.
HHHW vs. Connetquot should be a great game today. Predictions?
I like 'Quot but the weather is a factor. Since Both have very good offenses. it is whomever handles the weather best. Some club talk in this one, but record wise and barn yard talk between league 1 & 2 it would have made it more interesting if it was HHHE. Leaving only 1 undefeated team in A for Suffolk. Who knows but still may wind up that way, I think Quot will find a way.
Nassau B is a mess. The usual top teams floundering. Some rebuilding others praying.
It's not a mess. The traditional powerhouse programs are in the twilight of their dominance as youth lacrosse has spread like wildfire across the landscape. PAL programs founded in last 7-10 years are now starting to produce fruit which has leveled the playing field and upset the concentration of power and dominance of those programs.
Well said, Connetquot is a prime example of a product of a stronger youth league, leading them to the top of the standings. The traditional towns definitely have more competition.
Club teams have also played a major role in helping kids from non traditional powe programs.
I would agree and Say Club over town help connetquot.
Nassau B is a mess. The usual top teams floundering. Some rebuilding others praying.
It's not a mess. The traditional powerhouse programs are in the twilight of their dominance as youth lacrosse has spread like wildfire across the landscape. PAL programs founded in last 7-10 years are now starting to produce fruit which has leveled the playing field and upset the concentration of power and dominance of those programs.
Well said, Connetquot is a prime example of a product of a stronger youth league, leading them to the top of the standings. The traditional towns definitely have more competition.
Club teams have also played a major role in helping kids from non traditional powe programs.
I would agree and Say Club over town help connetquot.
Club Teams have helped all programs.
Nassau B is a mess. The usual top teams floundering. Some rebuilding others praying.
It's not a mess. The traditional powerhouse programs are in the twilight of their dominance as youth lacrosse has spread like wildfire across the landscape. PAL programs founded in last 7-10 years are now starting to produce fruit which has leveled the playing field and upset the concentration of power and dominance of those programs.
Well said, Connetquot is a prime example of a product of a stronger youth league, leading them to the top of the standings. The traditional towns definitely have more competition.
Club teams have also played a major role in helping kids from non traditional powe programs.
No doubt.
Nassau B is a mess. The usual top teams floundering. Some rebuilding others praying.
It's not a mess. The traditional powerhouse programs are in the twilight of their dominance as youth lacrosse has spread like wildfire across the landscape. PAL programs founded in last 7-10 years are now starting to produce fruit which has leveled the playing field and upset the concentration of power and dominance of those programs.
Well said, Connetquot is a prime example of a product of a stronger youth league, leading them to the top of the standings. The traditional towns definitely have more competition.
Club teams have also played a major role in helping kids from non traditional powe programs.
I would agree and Say Club over town help connetquot.
I agree, but more kids get a taste of lax at the town level first, then decide to try out for club.
Thanks to GC virtually forbidding kids from playing for club teams outside the select town team , the program is suffering a downtrade, maybe temporary, but we shall see. In the past kids played PAL on one of 4 equally talented teams. In addition, some kids played on summer tryout club teams. This approach provided a pretty good feeder system for the h.s. team, the results are in black and white. Now part of the deal seems to be an implicit deal that you must play for asst. coaches in summer or have no chance to play as a h.s. kid. freshmen get promoted to varsity etc.
Self Dealing and conflicts of interest like this are what is ruining lacrosse. The best kids should play regardless of where they play or who they play for. HS sports should be about one thing and one thing only - the kids.
This is a real problem for GC, losing more kids than ever before to other high school options. Also creates a less cohesive environment as kids and families are pitched against one another as well as the program.
Nassau B is a mess. The usual top teams floundering. Some rebuilding others praying.
It's not a mess. The traditional powerhouse programs are in the twilight of their dominance as youth lacrosse has spread like wildfire across the landscape. PAL programs founded in last 7-10 years are now starting to produce fruit which has leveled the playing field and upset the concentration of power and dominance of those programs.
Well said, Connetquot is a prime example of a product of a stronger youth league, leading them to the top of the standings. The traditional towns definitely have more competition.
Club teams have also played a major role in helping kids from non traditional powe programs.
I would agree and Say Club over town help connetquot.
Club Teams have helped all programs.
Without question, club exposure at a younger age has made some great players. These kids had access to a much higher level of coaching and the level of competition at a young age was much more intense. If you look at most (but not all) of the younger kids up on Varsity, they are highly skilled and talented from their club experiences. They may only be getting scrap time in some cases as freshmen, but you can tell they will be major players as sophs, Jrs and Srs.
Thanks to GC virtually forbidding kids from playing for club teams outside the select town team , the program is suffering a downtrade, maybe temporary, but we shall see. In the past kids played PAL on one of 4 equally talented teams. In addition, some kids played on summer tryout club teams. This approach provided a pretty good feeder system for the h.s. team, the results are in black and white. Now part of the deal seems to be an implicit deal that you must play for asst. coaches in summer or have no chance to play as a h.s. kid. freshmen get promoted to varsity etc.
Self Dealing and conflicts of interest like this are what is ruining lacrosse. The best kids should play regardless of where they play or who they play for. HS sports should be about one thing and one thing only - the kids.
This is a real problem for GC, losing more kids than ever before to other high school options. Also creates a less cohesive environment as kids and families are pitched against one another as well as the program.
No I don't live there. However, in most cases your are dealing with parents of very substantial means. If they feel the deck is being stacked against their children, they will reshuffle it. I'm sure the privates here on LI as well as the Boarding schools to the North will be happy to accommodate good students. Students who are also great Lacrosse players, that happen to come from families with deep pockets. Bye, bye, public school coach...
Thanks to GC virtually forbidding kids from playing for club teams outside the select town team , the program is suffering a downtrade, maybe temporary, but we shall see. In the past kids played PAL on one of 4 equally talented teams. In addition, some kids played on summer tryout club teams. This approach provided a pretty good feeder system for the h.s. team, the results are in black and white. Now part of the deal seems to be an implicit deal that you must play for asst. coaches in summer or have no chance to play as a h.s. kid. freshmen get promoted to varsity etc.
Self Dealing and conflicts of interest like this are what is ruining lacrosse. The best kids should play regardless of where they play or who they play for. HS sports should be about one thing and one thing only - the kids.
This is a real problem for GC, losing more kids than ever before to other high school options. Also creates a less cohesive environment as kids and families are pitched against one another as well as the program.
No I don't live there. However, in most cases your are dealing with parents of very substantial means. If they feel the deck is being stacked against their children, they will reshuffle it. I'm sure the privates here on LI as well as the Boarding schools to the North will be happy to accommodate good students. Students who are also great Lacrosse players, that happen to come from families with deep pockets. Bye, bye, public school coach...
The private school route is no guarantee of more playing time and in fact is a much tougher route given that the private schools have talent from all over the county and the boarding schools are drawing great talent from all over the country. Go ahead, give it a try but you are risking a lot of after tax money for a much tougher road to the field. I've seen kids that are committed to high D1s ride the bench at private schools.
Nassau B is a mess. The usual top teams floundering. Some rebuilding others praying.
It's not a mess. The traditional powerhouse programs are in the twilight of their dominance as youth lacrosse has spread like wildfire across the landscape. PAL programs founded in last 7-10 years are now starting to produce fruit which has leveled the playing field and upset the concentration of power and dominance of those programs.
Well said, Connetquot is a prime example of a product of a stronger youth league, leading them to the top of the standings. The traditional towns definitely have more competition.
Club teams have also played a major role in helping kids from non traditional powe programs.
I would agree and Say Club over town help connetquot.
I agree, but more kids get a taste of lax at the town level first, then decide to try out for club.
lets be real - isn't today a game of who's balls are bigger on 91.
CLUB HELPED! So did familiar linuage
Didn't connetquot play Hills east today, one of the last undefeated. Didn't see a box score
Didn't connetquot play Hills east today, one of the last undefeated. Didn't see a box score
Connetquot won 15-11
Didn't connetquot play Hills east today, one of the last undefeated. Didn't see a box score
Connetquot won 15-11
Wow, nice. They're rolling!
Didn't connetquot play Hills east today, one of the last undefeated. Didn't see a box score
Connetquot won 15-11
Wow, nice. They're rolling!
Don't get your nickers in a twist just yet - they beat Hills West, not Hills East. Hills East is a different animal.
Virtually Forbidding???? Kids leave GC program all the time for club and end up playing for GCHS. I would think GC is no different then any club (91/Express) in that they want to keep their best players. My take is that GC is good enough to field a solid club team and give kids significant rolls where it is less mercenary and a win at all cost attitude. That said, playing for clubs teams does help some kids get exposure to playing with top notch players but in club a lot of really solid players end up sitting on the bench and or getting their playing time in non meaningful games - less so in GC IMO
Virtually Forbidding???? Kids leave GC program all the time for club and end up playing for GCHS. I would think GC is no different then any club (91/Express) in that they want to keep their best players. My take is that GC is good enough to field a solid club team and give kids significant rolls where it is less mercenary and a win at all cost attitude. That said, playing for clubs teams does help some kids get exposure to playing with top notch players but in club a lot of really solid players end up sitting on the bench and or getting their playing time in non meaningful games - less so in GC IMO
All true. However you're leaving out one key element. The level of competition. Come grades 7,8,9 there is no way GC is fielding a team that can play against top level clubs here or elsewhere. No way you're competing against Crabs, Dukes, FCA, Laxachusettes, WCS, 3D, etc... That's where your theory loses steam. In order to be the best, you must play with and compete against the best. Not happening with your GC travel team. Not putting down your team or town. However, it is the very reason why the best kids from your town and other top Lax towns will play on the top travel teams.
Didn't connetquot play Hills east today, one of the last undefeated. Didn't see a box score
Connetquot won 15-11
Wow, nice. They're rolling!
Don't get your nickers in a twist just yet - they beat Hills West, not Hills East. Hills East is a different animal.
Early in the season HHHW lost by 2 to SE and 1 to SW. I think it is a good win.
HHHE beat WW and SW handily, ask them who was tougher WB or SW. WI is in for a fight today with WB. Suffolk isn't as bad as people think.
I hope the 'Pequa Syo game lives up to the hype.
Didn't connetquot play Hills east today, one of the last undefeated. Didn't see a box score
Connetquot won 15-11
Wow, nice. They're rolling!
Don't get your nickers in a twist just yet - they beat Hills West, not Hills East. Hills East is a different animal.
lets see if you say the same thing Sat evening May 9th! and a big question I have is why is that game at 4pm.
YES I would agree .... hearing TWO 8 th graders looking at going to HILL academy instead of Garden City hs or Chaminade..
Virtually Forbidding???? Kids leave GC program all the time for club and end up playing for GCHS. I would think GC is no different then any club (91/Express) in that they want to keep their best players. My take is that GC is good enough to field a solid club team and give kids significant rolls where it is less mercenary and a win at all cost attitude. That said, playing for clubs teams does help some kids get exposure to playing with top notch players but in club a lot of really solid players end up sitting on the bench and or getting their playing time in non meaningful games - less so in GC IMO
I believe that is entirely wrong.
Less mercenary, ha! The GC club teams forbid anyone that does not (or will not) be part of the HS future.
Recently, only a select group of emails were sent to the middle school kids inviting them to tryout fro the GC club teams. By excluding other kids from the invite, how does that seem like a fair tryout? Who calls those shots? Is it the A parents or the HS Coaches?
By the looks of it, some folks (with select players) are fed up with the BS and you can see on the rosters of fl$, 91, Express, Revolution, and TB etc.
YES I would agree .... hearing TWO 8 th graders looking at going to HILL academy instead of Garden City hs or Chaminade..
Since the conversation brought up the future of LI HS Lax (7th - 9th).
If you have played on the travel circuit you know the reason why any LI town team cant win a travel summer game at the highest level. Whether it be (some of the bigger youth programs) Massapequa, Garden City, Syosset, CSH, Manhasset, Smithtowns, Ward Melville, SWR, ESM, Bay Shore, West Islip... the list goes on and on...
The biggest obstacle to towns playing travel is the reclass issue. I have been fortunate enough to have candid conversations, with Sweetlax, Laxachusetts, Crabs and Dukes parents. They reclassify to get their child the edge. To me each parent I spoke to had a very good player but on age they might just be okay. Not trying to make this a reclass thing of right or wrong. It is what it is and unless in a private school you will not see it so prevalent. So LI public schools don't stand much of a chance out there. a Diamond in the rough sure. but not like days of yesteryear.
HOWEVER THOSE THAT TRY CHALLENGING THEMSELVES WILL BE MUCH BETTER FOR DOING IT. YOU MAY NOT WIN, BUT IS IT ONLY ABOUT WINNING IN THE SUMMER?.
True. they exclude people very early on and there is no repercussion. Also, regarding their "elite" summer team(s) they cherry pick easiest tournaments beat up on easier opponents then put a two page spread in the local newspaper....sad and deluded .
You just said GC kids are leaving to go to other club teams - that is exactly my point - kids can play where they want - there are kids on GCHS that play within GC and some players for other outside clubs
Virtually Forbidding???? Kids leave GC program all the time for club and end up playing for GCHS. I would think GC is no different then any club (91/Express) in that they want to keep their best players. My take is that GC is good enough to field a solid club team and give kids significant rolls where it is less mercenary and a win at all cost attitude. That said, playing for clubs teams does help some kids get exposure to playing with top notch players but in club a lot of really solid players end up sitting on the bench and or getting their playing time in non meaningful games - less so in GC IMO
I have to agree. If a child can develop and progress at a rate that is close enough to a top club program and do this in a town environment like GC for example, and do it at a fraction of the cost compared to an over priced, high pressure club environment, then why not?
Virtually Forbidding???? Kids leave GC program all the time for club and end up playing for GCHS. I would think GC is no different then any club (91/Express) in that they want to keep their best players. My take is that GC is good enough to field a solid club team and give kids significant rolls where it is less mercenary and a win at all cost attitude. That said, playing for clubs teams does help some kids get exposure to playing with top notch players but in club a lot of really solid players end up sitting on the bench and or getting their playing time in non meaningful games - less so in GC IMO
All true. However you're leaving out one key element. The level of competition. Come grades 7,8,9 there is no way GC is fielding a team that can play against top level clubs here or elsewhere. No way you're competing against Crabs, Dukes, FCA, Laxachusettes, WCS, 3D, etc... That's where your theory loses steam. In order to be the best, you must play with and compete against the best. Not happening with your GC travel team. Not putting down your team or town. However, it is the very reason why the best kids from your town and other top Lax towns will play on the top travel teams.
Does it really matter? All this wheel spinning, cash burning, chasing the carrot .......for what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships spread across a roster of 45?
That's the reality of it!
I agree with that 100% that very strong town teams will rarely beat a top club but my point is not so much about winning but player development. Some of these elite teams have lots of great players but "win" with only a couple of even better players - so I agree w/ you that to be the best, you need to play the best but all too often clubs stockpile talent and only a few actually play against the best and contribute while the rest get to watch a great game... just my observation - if your HS has weak teams or plan on going to private/Catholic school then I believe you should go big club
YES I would agree .... hearing TWO 8 th graders looking at going to HILL academy instead of Garden City hs or Chaminade..
Since the conversation brought up the future of LI HS Lax (7th - 9th).
If you have played on the travel circuit you know the reason why any LI town team cant win a travel summer game at the highest level. Whether it be (some of the bigger youth programs) Massapequa, Garden City, Syosset, CSH, Manhasset, Smithtowns, Ward Melville, SWR, ESM, Bay Shore, West Islip... the list goes on and on...
The biggest obstacle to towns playing travel is the reclass issue. I have been fortunate enough to have candid conversations, with Sweetlax, Laxachusetts, Crabs and Dukes parents. They reclassify to get their child the edge. To me each parent I spoke to had a very good player but on age they might just be okay. Not trying to make this a reclass thing of right or wrong. It is what it is and unless in a private school you will not see it so prevalent. So LI public schools don't stand much of a chance out there. a Diamond in the rough sure. but not like days of yesteryear.
HOWEVER THOSE THAT TRY CHALLENGING THEMSELVES WILL BE MUCH BETTER FOR DOING IT. YOU MAY NOT WIN, BUT IS IT ONLY ABOUT WINNING IN THE SUMMER?.
They reclassify to get an edge......an edge on what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships, that's what!!!
Amazing!!!
YES I would agree .... hearing TWO 8 th graders looking at going to HILL academy instead of Garden City hs or Chaminade..
Since the conversation brought up the future of LI HS Lax (7th - 9th).
If you have played on the travel circuit you know the reason why any LI town team cant win a travel summer game at the highest level. Whether it be (some of the bigger youth programs) Massapequa, Garden City, Syosset, CSH, Manhasset, Smithtowns, Ward Melville, SWR, ESM, Bay Shore, West Islip... the list goes on and on...
The biggest obstacle to towns playing travel is the reclass issue. I have been fortunate enough to have candid conversations, with Sweetlax, Laxachusetts, Crabs and Dukes parents. They reclassify to get their child the edge. To me each parent I spoke to had a very good player but on age they might just be okay. Not trying to make this a reclass thing of right or wrong. It is what it is and unless in a private school you will not see it so prevalent. So LI public schools don't stand much of a chance out there. a Diamond in the rough sure. but not like days of yesteryear.
HOWEVER THOSE THAT TRY CHALLENGING THEMSELVES WILL BE MUCH BETTER FOR DOING IT. YOU MAY NOT WIN, BUT IS IT ONLY ABOUT WINNING IN THE SUMMER?.
They reclassify to get an edge......an edge on what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships, that's what!!!
Amazing!!!
Are you trying to say LI public school kids don't reclass?? Seriously?
YES I would agree .... hearing TWO 8 th graders looking at going to HILL academy instead of Garden City hs or Chaminade..
Since the conversation brought up the future of LI HS Lax (7th - 9th).
If you have played on the travel circuit you know the reason why any LI town team cant win a travel summer game at the highest level. Whether it be (some of the bigger youth programs) Massapequa, Garden City, Syosset, CSH, Manhasset, Smithtowns, Ward Melville, SWR, ESM, Bay Shore, West Islip... the list goes on and on...
The biggest obstacle to towns playing travel is the reclass issue. I have been fortunate enough to have candid conversations, with Sweetlax, Laxachusetts, Crabs and Dukes parents. They reclassify to get their child the edge. To me each parent I spoke to had a very good player but on age they might just be okay. Not trying to make this a reclass thing of right or wrong. It is what it is and unless in a private school you will not see it so prevalent. So LI public schools don't stand much of a chance out there. a Diamond in the rough sure. but not like days of yesteryear.
HOWEVER THOSE THAT TRY CHALLENGING THEMSELVES WILL BE MUCH BETTER FOR DOING IT. YOU MAY NOT WIN, BUT IS IT ONLY ABOUT WINNING IN THE SUMMER?.
They reclassify to get an edge......an edge on what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships, that's what!!!
Amazing!!!
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Some of this isn't about the money but the prestige of the University their children get into. Many of these parents have the money, sure they would like not to spend it, but they see the opportunity that is ahead of their child after college.
Me, I put my child into travel so by the time he was HS ready he wouldn't leave the field. Call it selfish or egocentric but the results proved worthy and at first it was a conversation of where he would go to HS now the conversation shifted to the colleges interested in him.
The biggest obstacle to towns playing travel is the reclass issue. I have been fortunate enough to have candid conversations, with Sweetlax, Laxachusetts, Crabs and Dukes parents. They reclassify to get their child the edge. To me each parent I spoke to had a very good player but on age they might just be okay. Not trying to make this a reclass thing of right or wrong. It is what it is and unless in a private school you will not see it so prevalent. So LI public schools don't stand much of a chance out there. a Diamond in the rough sure. but not like days of yesteryear.
HOWEVER THOSE THAT TRY CHALLENGING THEMSELVES WILL BE MUCH BETTER FOR DOING IT. YOU MAY NOT WIN, BUT IS IT ONLY ABOUT WINNING IN THE SUMMER?.
They reclassify to get an edge......an edge on what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships, that's what!!!
Amazing!!!!!
Does it really matter? All this wheel spinning, cash burning, chasing the carrot .......for what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships spread across a roster of 45?
That's the reality of it!
my kid with his 95 average and 27 ACT could not think about an Ivy but my lacrosse playing kid with a 95 average and 27 ACT can. That is the reality of it! not trying to get $5,000 from Maryland
Didn't connetquot play Hills east today, one of the last undefeated. Didn't see a box score
Connetquot won 15-11
Wow, nice. They're rolling!
That record is very deceptive. They have only played 2 teams with winning records and Islip, Longwood, Brentwood, Pat Med, Floyd and Middle Country have combined for a grand total of 8 wins. WM was a big win. But it took 2 OT's. Let's see how they look after the bottom end of their schedule.
In looking at Lax power it leads me to ask. Do the services that rank the school schedules SOS reevaluate the SOS through out the season. I hope so.
In week #1, history of LY has something to do with your rank. 4 weeks in or 10 games for some, they've played out a good portion of the season and you would think settled the level play to really see whose SOS is stronger.
WM and Chammy are 1 & 2 in NYS, they have single digit SOS with one loss. Meanwhile the teams that beat them (gave them that loss) are undefeated ('Pequa 'Quot ) sitting at 3 and 6.
Yorktown Kennedy and Fordham Prep should be below Lynbrook HHHE and even SE.
I don't get the rankings they use
Didn't connetquot play Hills east today, one of the last undefeated. Didn't see a box score
Connetquot won 15-11
Wow, nice. They're rolling!
That record is very deceptive. They have only played 2 teams with winning records and Islip, Longwood, Brentwood, Pat Med, Floyd and Middle Country have combined for a grand total of 8 wins. WM was a big win. But it took 2 OT's. Let's see how they look after the bottom end of their schedule.
they should be able to handle their schedule at the end. ill go backwards. they look good for senior day! have a tough road game at northport. Should win their next 3 but anything is possible. The Lindy game is the trap game depends on Lindy's F/O.
Now SE played EI, DP, Bport, copague and WB how many wins do those 5 have. Wow 8, same as you noted before. Next HHHE 7 of their opponents have 14 wins take away the 500 club and 6 teams with 10 wins.
Don't diminish Northport or Connetquot. Remember SE beat SW last year would you be that surprised if SW beat SE this year. HHHE and HHHW play each other as cross town rivals last game of season for East .
All good stuff!
Does it really matter? All this wheel spinning, cash burning, chasing the carrot .......for what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships spread across a roster of 45?
That's the reality of it!
my kid with his 95 average and 27 ACT could not think about an Ivy but my lacrosse playing kid with a 95 average and 27 ACT can. That is the reality of it! not trying to get $5,000 from Maryland
I'd be worried about any kid with a 27 on the ACT at an Ivy, lacrosse or not. Getting in is one thing, but staying in is another.
Does it really matter? All this wheel spinning, cash burning, chasing the carrot .......for what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships spread across a roster of 45?
That's the reality of it!
my kid with his 95 average and 27 ACT could not think about an Ivy but my lacrosse playing kid with a 95 average and 27 ACT can. That is the reality of it! not trying to get $5,000 from Maryland
I'd be worried about any kid with a 27 on the ACT at an Ivy, lacrosse or not. Getting in is one thing, but staying in is another.
Some kids just do not test well. If the kid gets in, then he will have to prove himself. Kudos to any kid that gets recruited for an ivy.
Does it really matter? All this wheel spinning, cash burning, chasing the carrot .......for what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships spread across a roster of 45?
That's the reality of it!
my kid with his 95 average and 27 ACT could not think about an Ivy but my lacrosse playing kid with a 95 average and 27 ACT can. That is the reality of it! not trying to get $5,000 from Maryland
And what kind of an experience will he have in college with the rest the student body that have 34–35 ACTs and 105 averages. Be careful for what you wish for. Is it what you want or what your kid wants. What if lacrosse doesn't work out. Is he in a place where he will be happy
I'd be worried about any kid with a 27 on the ACT at an Ivy, lacrosse or not. Getting in is one thing, but staying in is another.
Some kids just do not test well. If the kid gets in, then he will have to prove himself. Kudos to any kid that gets recruited for an ivy.
Does it really matter? All this wheel spinning, cash burning, chasing the carrot .......for what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships spread across a roster of 45?
That's the reality of it!
my kid with his 95 average and 27 ACT could not think about an Ivy but my lacrosse playing kid with a 95 average and 27 ACT can. That is the reality of it! not trying to get $5,000 from Maryland
I'd be worried about any kid with a 27 on the ACT at an Ivy, lacrosse or not. Getting in is one thing, but staying in is another.
Some kids just do not test well. If the kid gets in, then he will have to prove himself. Kudos to any kid that gets recruited for an ivy.
Ivy League schools have a very low drop out rate - get in and if you work hard you will graduate
Does it really matter? All this wheel spinning, cash burning, chasing the carrot .......for what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships spread across a roster of 45?
That's the reality of it!
my kid with his 95 average and 27 ACT could not think about an Ivy but my lacrosse playing kid with a 95 average and 27 ACT can. That is the reality of it! not trying to get $5,000 from Maryland
I'd be worried about any kid with a 27 on the ACT at an Ivy, lacrosse or not. Getting in is one thing, but staying in is another.
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I agree with that 100% that very strong town teams will rarely beat a top club but my point is not so much about winning but player development. Some of these elite teams have lots of great players but "win" with only a couple of even better players - so I agree w/ you that to be the best, you need to play the best but all too often clubs stockpile talent and only a few actually play against the best and contribute while the rest get to watch a great game... just my observation - if your HS has weak teams or plan on going to private/Catholic school then I believe you should go big club
How about getting outside your comfort zone? How about making new friends? How about playing with different kids? How about playing for a different coach? How about playing a different role than the one you play on your town/school team? How about changing things up and having fun? How about making new connections? How about playing with better players? How about competing at the highest level that you are capable of competing at?
Does it really matter? All this wheel spinning, cash burning, chasing the carrot .......for what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships spread across a roster of 45?
That's the reality of it!
my kid with his 95 average and 27 ACT could not think about an Ivy but my lacrosse playing kid with a 95 average and 27 ACT can. That is the reality of it! not trying to get $5,000 from Maryland
Yes!
A moment of lucidity.
Rare 'round these parts.
I agree with that 100% that very strong town teams will rarely beat a top club but my point is not so much about winning but player development. Some of these elite teams have lots of great players but "win" with only a couple of even better players - so I agree w/ you that to be the best, you need to play the best but all too often clubs stockpile talent and only a few actually play against the best and contribute while the rest get to watch a great game... just my observation - if your HS has weak teams or plan on going to private/Catholic school then I believe you should go big club
How about getting outside your comfort zone? How about making new friends? How about playing with different kids? How about playing for a different coach? How about playing a different role than the one you play on your town/school team? How about changing things up and having fun? How about making new connections? How about playing with better players? How about competing at the highest level that you are capable of competing at?
How about .....none of this really matters because Lax ends after college!?!?
Hardest part is getting into an Ivy, staying in is relatively easy (for an above average student) depending on your major. Trust me, been there done that.
Does it really matter? All this wheel spinning, cash burning, chasing the carrot .......for what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships spread across a roster of 45?
That's the reality of it!
my kid with his 95 average and 27 ACT could not think about an Ivy but my lacrosse playing kid with a 95 average and 27 ACT can. That is the reality of it! not trying to get $5,000 from Maryland
I'd be worried about any kid with a 27 on the ACT at an Ivy, lacrosse or not. Getting in is one thing, but staying in is another.
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High minded BOTC discussion at its best.
here comes G.C. !!! back to back dominant performances.
Hardest part is getting into an Ivy, staying in is relatively easy (for an above average student) depending on your major. Trust me, been there done that.
Agree.
Calc 1 is Calc 1 whether it's at Cornell or Nassau Community College.
I agree with that 100% that very strong town teams will rarely beat a top club but my point is not so much about winning but player development. Some of these elite teams have lots of great players but "win" with only a couple of even better players - so I agree w/ you that to be the best, you need to play the best but all too often clubs stockpile talent and only a few actually play against the best and contribute while the rest get to watch a great game... just my observation - if your HS has weak teams or plan on going to private/Catholic school then I believe you should go big club
How about getting outside your comfort zone? How about making new friends? How about playing with different kids? How about playing for a different coach? How about playing a different role than the one you play on your town/school team? How about changing things up and having fun? How about making new connections? How about playing with better players? How about competing at the highest level that you are capable of competing at?
How about .....none of this really matters because Lax ends after college!?!?
How about that was the point. Sports are about helping a child develop and prepare for life.
Virtually Forbidding???? Kids leave GC program all the time for club and end up playing for GCHS. I would think GC is no different then any club (91/Express) in that they want to keep their best players. My take is that GC is good enough to field a solid club team and give kids significant rolls where it is less mercenary and a win at all cost attitude. That said, playing for clubs teams does help some kids get exposure to playing with top notch players but in club a lot of really solid players end up sitting on the bench and or getting their playing time in non meaningful games - less so in GC IMO
All true. However you're leaving out one key element. The level of competition. Come grades 7,8,9 there is no way GC is fielding a team that can play against top level clubs here or elsewhere. No way you're competing against Crabs, Dukes, FCA, Laxachusettes, WCS, 3D, etc... That's where your theory loses steam. In order to be the best, you must play with and compete against the best. Not happening with your GC travel team. Not putting down your team or town. However, it is the very reason why the best kids from your town and other top Lax towns will play on the top travel teams.
Does it really matter? All this wheel spinning, cash burning, chasing the carrot .......for what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships spread across a roster of 45?
That's the reality of it!
You're uninformed. My son plays at a great D3 school. Got 30+ percent for academic and merit money. The Coach pushed his application through, had his acceptance in 1 DAY!!! Lax made the college acceptance process a breeze, and they found him plenty of money. Will save us nearly $75k. Oh yeah, money was locked in whether or not he ever stepped foot on the field. Not a bad deal, and the school is easily a better academic choice than many of the D1 schools. It's not all about D1... It's about education and leveraging your sport.
I agree with that 100% that very strong town teams will rarely beat a top club but my point is not so much about winning but player development. Some of these elite teams have lots of great players but "win" with only a couple of even better players - so I agree w/ you that to be the best, you need to play the best but all too often clubs stockpile talent and only a few actually play against the best and contribute while the rest get to watch a great game... just my observation - if your HS has weak teams or plan on going to private/Catholic school then I believe you should go big club
How about getting outside your comfort zone? How about making new friends? How about playing with different kids? How about playing for a different coach? How about playing a different role than the one you play on your town/school team? How about changing things up and having fun? How about making new connections? How about playing with better players? How about competing at the highest level that you are capable of competing at?
How about .....none of this really matters because Lax ends after college!?!?
totally agree, this is why kids should only play tennis and golf because that is for the most part the only sports they will play once they graduate college and start working in the real world (for those that are a little to literal, that was sarcastic) the points that the two posts were mentioning were all about things that matter and things that they will take with them long after their playing careers are over
Virtually Forbidding???? Kids leave GC program all the time for club and end up playing for GCHS. I would think GC is no different then any club (91/Express) in that they want to keep their best players. My take is that GC is good enough to field a solid club team and give kids significant rolls where it is less mercenary and a win at all cost attitude. That said, playing for clubs teams does help some kids get exposure to playing with top notch players but in club a lot of really solid players end up sitting on the bench and or getting their playing time in non meaningful games - less so in GC IMO
All true. However you're leaving out one key element. The level of competition. Come grades 7,8,9 there is no way GC is fielding a team that can play against top level clubs here or elsewhere. No way you're competing against Crabs, Dukes, FCA, Laxachusettes, WCS, 3D, etc... That's where your theory loses steam. In order to be the best, you must play with and compete against the best. Not happening with your GC travel team. Not putting down your team or town. However, it is the very reason why the best kids from your town and other top Lax towns will play on the top travel teams.
Does it really matter? All this wheel spinning, cash burning, chasing the carrot .......for what?
12.9 equivalent scholarships spread across a roster of 45?
That's the reality of it!
You're uninformed. My son plays at a great D3 school. Got 30+ percent for academic and merit money. The Coach pushed his application through, had his acceptance in 1 DAY!!! Lax made the college acceptance process a breeze, and they found him plenty of money. Will save us nearly $75k. Oh yeah, money was locked in whether or not he ever stepped foot on the field. Not a bad deal, and the school is easily a better academic choice than many of the D1 schools. It's not all about D1... It's about education and leveraging your sport.
Based on your understanding of the process, I commend you on your strategy and approach.
However, you were not the audience I was targeting with my post.
You're uninformed. My son plays at a great D3 school. Got 30+ percent for academic and merit money. The Coach pushed his application through, had his acceptance in 1 DAY!!! Lax made the college acceptance process a breeze, and they found him plenty of money. Will save us nearly $75k. Oh yeah, money was locked in whether or not he ever stepped foot on the field. Not a bad deal, and the school is easily a better academic choice than many of the D1 schools. It's not all about D1... It's about education and leveraging your sport. [/quote]
I agree 100%. I played D3 football it you are not playing for OSU, Oregon, Alabama, etc there is not that much of a difference in the experience. It is still high quality college athletics played at smaller venues.
It is even less a difference in College lacrosse. You can't tell me a kid playing at St. John's, Hofstra, Towson or even Stony Brook has a much better experience than a kid going to Salisbury, Cortland, Stevenson, Post, Aldephi, etc. Unless you are going to Duke, NC, Hopkins, Syracuse, Va, IVY etc. What is the difference? The elite kids go to elite schools. The rest?? Go for the education and college experience.
Any ivy junior prospect day will tell u straight 2100 as a recruit is what they want. ACT of 27 is = 1800-1850. So I guess the kids at the junuir recruit day were lied to?
I suppose if your Rabil with a 27, ivy may swing down to 300 points.
Any ivy junior prospect day will tell u straight 2100 as a recruit is what they want. ACT of 27 is = 1800-1850. So I guess the kids at the junuir recruit day were lied to?
I suppose if your Rabil with a 27, ivy may swing down to 300 points.
yes - that is what they tell you they "want" - they have slots that they have to fill and they do need 31+ ACT kids to offset the 27 ACT kids but I know that there are plenty of kids playing lacrosse and other sports at Ivy League schools with under 29 ACT's
Any ivy junior prospect day will tell u straight 2100 as a recruit is what they want. ACT of 27 is = 1800-1850. So I guess the kids at the junuir recruit day were lied to?
I suppose if your Rabil with a 27, ivy may swing down to 300 points.
yes - that is what they tell you they "want" - they have slots that they have to fill and they do need 31+ ACT kids to offset the 27 ACT kids but I know that there are plenty of kids playing lacrosse and other sports at Ivy League schools with under 29 ACT's
When a player is “Recruited” they are in a separate category.
If you or your Club/HS coach are making outbound calls to college coaches or you are going to prospect days , showcase events or camps trying to get seen you are probably not in that category. (yet, you might someday be).
When the College Coach contacts the players Club/HS Coach and says they are very interested after watching the player compete that is a different story.
When The Head Coach makes contact and invites the player and parents to visit and makes an offer the (at an Ivy the offer is a roster spot and help with admissions) required curriculum, grades and test score will all be explained. They will all be different from what is told to the general population.
You're uninformed. My son plays at a great D3 school. Got 30+ percent for academic and merit money. The Coach pushed his application through, had his acceptance in 1 DAY!!! Lax made the college acceptance process a breeze, and they found him plenty of money. Will save us nearly $75k. Oh yeah, money was locked in whether or not he ever stepped foot on the field. Not a bad deal, and the school is easily a better academic choice than many of the D1 schools. It's not all about D1... It's about education and leveraging your sport.
And then the real special kids go to one of the military academies. Less then 10percent acceptance rate. But you have to give them 5 years and a lot of kids don't want to do that.
I agree 100%. I played D3 football it you are not playing for OSU, Oregon, Alabama, etc there is not that much of a difference in the experience. It is still high quality college athletics played at smaller venues.
It is even less a difference in College lacrosse. You can't tell me a kid playing at St. John's, Hofstra, Towson or even Stony Brook has a much better experience than a kid going to Salisbury, Cortland, Stevenson, Post, Aldephi, etc. Unless you are going to Duke, NC, Hopkins, Syracuse, Va, IVY etc. What is the difference? The elite kids go to elite schools. The rest?? Go for the education and college experience. [/quote]
unless you went to Chaminade!!!!
Lacrosse is a tool that the fortunate few are able to use to get something or somewhere they would not have gotten without it. Nothing more. Just need to remember to have some fun occasionally.
Lacrosse is a tool that the fortunate few are able to use to get something or somewhere they would not have gotten without it. Nothing more. need to remember to have some fun occasionally.
Some parents would benefit by repeating the above post in their heads on a daily basis.
It's also important as a 1st time parent of a college bound student athlete to keep their expectations realistic. There are a lot of hucksters out there making some big money by marketing some path to the scholarship promise land to these starry-eyed 1st timers. Choose wisely.
The rest of us who are veterans of this process know differently.
During the process of weeding out your schools. Ask your child if on the first day of practice you had a career ending injury would you still want to go to (fill in blank name of school) and not play lacrosse.
perfect example. School over lax. very few will feed a family playing lax.
WM, I assume. Refs have been horrible in general this year. Very inconsistent and not enforcing rules amicably.
Northport beats WM.. Great finish & Sat beat smithtown E ...Go Tigers!!
Lacrosse is a tool that the fortunate few are able to use to get something or somewhere they would not have gotten without it. Nothing more. Just need to remember to have some fun occasionally.
Absolutely spot on. Great way to sum it up. Went thru the recruiting process with my son with realistic expectations. Leave your ego and dreams of full rides at the curb. If you could help your mediocre student child get into a top school, using lacrosse, while getting some money off tuition you have done well.
Northport beats WM.. Great finish & Sat beat smithtown E ...Go Tigers!!
stay fired up don't let WW be a trap game.
WM, I assume. Refs have been horrible in general this year. Very inconsistent and not enforcing rules amicably.
More so with VM.
Is it officially a written rule now that if ANY kind of contact makes a player fall down a flag must be thrown? What has always been a 100% clean hit is called every time for a penalty today. I can't find anything about the rules being changed online. Anyone know?
Is it officially a written rule now that if ANY kind of contact makes a player fall down a flag must be thrown? What has always been a 100% clean hit is called every time for a penalty today. I can't find anything about the rules being changed online. Anyone know?
yes there are some calls that are changed. defensless and if they travel and go out of the way for the hit. Flag! Also about me some slashes get called. they game has changed since the 80's good bad or indifferent. Not sure the game you are taking about but I have seen some missed calls too. It happens, it has always happened.
Which game: from 1 goal games.
np wm
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But send us a link of the game let the boc fans be judge and jury. That's is what you are asking. To answer you're question yes a few changes were rule implemented but not every hit No, some yes. Send us a link and let us see for ourselves. But be careful The jury of popular opinion may lead to "good hit" if even illegal.
What you dream as 100% clean I would love to see to,judge. What game and send us a link so,we can be the judge and jury, after all isn't that what you want isn't that why you are posting it here.
WM, I assume. Refs have been horrible in general this year. Very inconsistent and not enforcing rules amicably.
Help me understand "amicably". Are they nasty about it
Please stop blaming the officials.
Did the officials screw WM in the Connetquot game? How about last year? Did WM get screwed by officials all year in 2014? Is that why WM had their worst season in school history? What about 2013? Were the officials against WM when they went undefeated and won the NY State Championship?
Please do not disrespect a great program by whining about the refs.
During the process of weeding out your schools. Ask your child if on the first day of practice you had a career ending injury would you still want to go to (fill in blank name of school) and not play lacrosse.
I understand the question but a lot of kids transfer schools that never picked up a lacrosse stick - I think lacrosse is a big part of the equation for many kids but if lacrosse is taken away they can always transfer as many many non lacrosse players do
Please stop blaming the officials.
Did the officials screw WM in the Connetquot game? How about last year? Did WM get screwed by officials all year in 2014? Is that why WM had their worst season in school history? What about 2013? Were the officials against WM when they went undefeated and won the NY State Championship?
Please do not disrespect a great program by whining about the refs.
I was not at the game but spoke to a WM parent and he had a lot of reasons for the loss but in a 5 min conversation never once mentioned the refs, more about not being able to hold the lead and not capitalizing on enough opportunities - i will ask him what he thought about the reffing next time i speak to him
Is it officially a written rule now that if ANY kind of contact makes a player fall down a flag must be thrown? What has always been a 100% clean hit is called every time for a penalty today. I can't find anything about the rules being changed online. Anyone know?
yes there are some calls that are changed. defensless and if they travel and go out of the way for the hit. Flag! Also about me some slashes get called. they game has changed since the 80's good bad or indifferent. Not sure the game you are taking about but I have seen some missed calls too. It happens, it has always happened.
Which game: from 1 goal games.
np wm
Lindy mc
Beth lawr
Ss ns
But send us a link of the game let the boc fans be judge and jury. That's is what you are asking. To answer you're question yes a few changes were rule implemented but not every hit No, some yes. Send us a link and let us see for ourselves. But be careful The jury of popular opinion may lead to "good hit" if even illegal.
What you dream as 100% clean I would love to see to,judge. What game and send us a link so,we can be the judge and jury, after all isn't that what you want isn't that why you are posting it here.
I wasn't talking about a specific game. Just in general every HS game I watch if there is any contact and a kid falls down a flag is thrown. I'm not comparing today's game to the 80's or 90's when it was still a contact sport. I'm comparing today's game to 5 years ago when some hitting and contact was still allowed.
I was just wondering if the rules were actually changed or not. Since I can't find any evidence that they were changed I am guessing that officials take it among themselves to not call the rules as written but instead to call them the way the mommies want them called.
No one from WM complaining about the refs, calls go both ways. They were beat by quot and NP in two very great games. it is as simple as that. WM will be fine and compete in the playoffs at a very high level.
They are not a national championship caliber team but they are very strong. Losing a few games is not a bad thing and it is certainly not like they were blown out. Both games down to the wire and WM just couldn't close...
No one from WM complaining about the refs, calls go both ways. They were beat by quot and NP in two very great games. it is as simple as that. WM will be fine and compete in the playoffs at a very high level.
They are not a national championship caliber team but they are very strong. Losing a few games is not a bad thing and it is certainly not like they were blown out. Both games down to the wire and WM just couldn't close...
The post said - "Refs screwed WM again"
If not someone from WM where are they from?
No one from WM complaining about the refs, calls go both ways. They were beat by quot and NP in two very great games. it is as simple as that. WM will be fine and compete in the playoffs at a very high level.
They are not a national championship caliber team but they are very strong. Losing a few games is not a bad thing and it is certainly not like they were blown out. Both games down to the wire and WM just couldn't close...
The post said - "Refs screwed WM again"
If not someone from WM where are they from?
Actually, the post said VM--a few posts later, the person again said VM. No idea what they are referring too, but assure you that WM parents (at least this parent) not complaining about ref calls. Every game has good and bad calls, these are HS refs picking up some extra income...bad calls every week at college level also, just have to take the good ones with the bad and move on.
that isnt true. Ivy's use the academic index for student athletes and a 27 ACT and a 95 average show an index of 191, well above the minimum 171 needed for Ivy acceptance.
During the process of weeding out your schools. Ask your child if on the first day of practice you had a career ending injury would you still want to go to (fill in blank name of school) and not play lacrosse.
Great question to ask. Just remember that the kids are caught up in the euphoria when you ask them that question. you won't know the answer until after the injury or the realization that playing time will only occur in blowouts.
Please stop blaming the officials.
Did the officials screw WM in the Connetquot game? How about last year? Did WM get screwed by officials all year in 2014? Is that why WM had their worst season in school history? What about 2013? Were the officials against WM when they went undefeated and won the NY State Championship?
Please do not disrespect a great program by whining about the refs.
Wouldn't say refs but there has been a change in coaching since national championship team. Just a thought....
Please stop blaming the officials.
Did the officials screw WM in the Connetquot game? How about last year? Did WM get screwed by officials all year in 2014? Is that why WM had their worst season in school history? What about 2013? Were the officials against WM when they went undefeated and won the NY State Championship?
Please do not disrespect a great program by whining about the refs.
Wouldn't say refs but there has been a change in coaching since national championship team. Just a thought....
stop crying like a baby. you lost. if you were the clear cut better team, the refs wouldn't be able to influence the outcome. Take the loss like a winner looking to build on it not a loser pointing fingers that it must be somebody elses fault.
Northport is really looking good after the last two wins over very talented teams. I was surprised at their depth. They obviously have a huge advantage at the x against most teams such as the WM game. But SE couldn't even handle them even after being dominant at x. They are going to be tough to get past. Looking forward to the Connetquot match up next week.
Please stop blaming the officials.
Did the officials screw WM in the Connetquot game? How about last year? Did WM get screwed by officials all year in 2014? Is that why WM had their worst season in school history? What about 2013? Were the officials against WM when they went undefeated and won the NY State Championship?
Please do not disrespect a great program by whining about the refs.
Wouldn't say refs but there has been a change in coaching since national championship team. Just a thought....
stop crying like a baby. you lost. if you were the clear cut better team, the refs wouldn't be able to influence the outcome. Take the loss like a winner looking to build on it not a loser pointing fingers that it must be somebody elses fault.
You have it all wrong, no one here is crying...did you read the rest of the page?
This last guy didn't even blame refs, he blamed the coach...
Northport is really looking good after the last two wins over very talented teams. I was surprised at their depth. They obviously have a huge advantage at the x against most teams such as the WM game. But SE couldn't even handle them even after being dominant at x. They are going to be tough to get past. Looking forward to the Connetquot match up next week.
Yes, that fogo won the game yesterday...good player for sure. Was surprised WM didn't put in a long pole or another kid at that stage of the game.
Whose excited for Pequa vs Syosset tomorrow. Hoping for Syosset!
Whose excited for Pequa vs Syosset tomorrow. Hoping for Syosset!
I am ad me too on Syo
Syosset will not have the ball enough to hang with the Chiefs. F/O will go 80% to the Chiefs. Chiefs win pulling away.
Syosset will not have the ball enough to hang with the Chiefs. F/O will go 80% to the Chiefs. Chiefs win pulling away.
Guess we'll have to see about that! Athough f/o are certainty important, they don't always win games. And although Pequa has done well in that dept. They have really not faced anyone elite yet, which could happen in the LI championship who could produce several in that dept! Go Syosset!!
Syosset will not have the ball enough to hang with the Chiefs. F/O will go 80% to the Chiefs. Chiefs win pulling away.
Guess we'll have to see about that! Athough f/o are certainty important, they don't always win games. And although Pequa has done well in that dept. They have really not faced anyone elite yet, which could happen in the LI championship who could produce several in that dept! Go Syosset!!
Sloppy game. Massapequa won in OT.
Sachem East 28 Brentwood 1 What's with this score. I guess Sachem East coach has no mirrors at his house! Let me guess did Brentwood run up the score on sachem this past basketball or soccer season? Next time take the high road Sachem!!!
Whitman upsets West Islip 6-5 what a game
Who is for a Nassau super class? Let's put all the top teams in one division Pequa, Syo, port, lynbrook, GC, manhasset, LB , CSH, Carey, wantagh and Hicksville. Each year a couple of teams could shifted In Or out based on their record. I think this is similar to what they do in European soccer. It will give each team 10 meaningful games and still allow them to have non league games against the Catholics, Suffolk teams etc. tired of watching three teams duke it out in Nassau class A. Non super league teams would have something to work towards as well. Thoughts? PS if I left out your team I mean no offense.
Who is for a Nassau super class? Let's put all the top teams in one division Pequa, Syo, port, lynbrook, GC, manhasset, LB , CSH, Carey, wantagh and Hicksville. Each year a couple of teams could shifted In Or out based on their record. I think this is similar to what they do in European soccer. It will give each team 10 meaningful games and still allow them to have non league games against the Catholics, Suffolk teams etc. tired of watching three teams duke it out in Nassau class A. Non super league teams would have something to work towards as well. Thoughts? PS if I left out your team I mean no offense.
I wrote against a super in Suffolk where the same thing happens. Look at Connectquot they would have been left out. Instead of a super conference don't have all of the better team play all the weaker teams. They are 4 good 4 medium and 4 bad.. And this goes for most of the states sections. There are plenty of weaker teams for them to play.
Make all the good play each other plus all mediums teams and 2 badsthen add 2 Nassau 2 west 3 split with ct/nj/pa/md. (This has the medium teams doing the same. Just schedule it in a way that there is crossover.
In reality LI lax is much better than the rest of the state our boys get royaly screwed not playing for a state championship against each other.
Catholic is no different, catholic conference games at best have 3 other schools but mainly Chamy and StA but they go out and play various teams. Imagine if publics did that. St As and Chammy would Lose the strangle hold on getting top players. I know you go for the school. Yadda yadda yadda.
Suffolk needs to do the same-sex
Sachem east has not not had any coaching since the sachems split.take a close look at the games they lost wm winning into fouth quarter.sachem north ahead by three in fourth. Loss to nortport in ot.ahead against astrong conn team in fourth.everyone makes adjustments. Sachem coaches say try harder. The talent is there they need help.
Sachem east has not not had any coaching since the sachems split.take a close look at the games they lost wm winning into fouth quarter.sachem north ahead by three in fourth. Loss to nortport in ot.ahead against astrong conn team in fourth.everyone makes adjustments. Sachem coaches say try harder. The talent is there they need help.
I like them too, Depending how they come out of the Bay Shore game will put them where the belong.
One week will tell
Sounds like at least a few quot posters have an insecurity complex. WM will be fine, not paying attention to these ridiculous mid season rankings...lets see what happens in the playoffs.
Scoring 28 vs. Brentwood is a disgrace. No other Team did that. Coach should be suspended. Bad sportsmanship. Those Boys from Brentwood are trying. I hope the Sachem East AD had a talk with that Coach.
Our coach would be dead set against a super team conference. He likes his 6 or 7 garbage wins to pad his record. Do that for enough years and you become a garbage team. Credit to GC playing a good non league schedule. Even when they are down they play the best.
The reason it is not a great idea is state championships. Everyone will knock each other out of the box. The LI rep for states will not be the best team.
GC beat Carey 11-8
Carey had 'em 6-5 after 3 qtr
Carey em and lost their mojo late!!!
Old boys club coaches stick up for ad . Ad sticks up for coaches Its been that way for years. Nothing will happen to either. And you are correct that was embarassing.
No talk about the Pequa Syosset game ?
We had senior night at my son's school, he is a freshman and I am not familiar with what is normal for lacrosse, as my daughter played volleyball. There were 15 seniors this year. The coach lined them up and had them appear from least playing time to most (or I suppose least valuable to most valuable). It was obvious and the players knew it, and seemed surprised, this was new this year. It seemed very odd to me, as in a girl's sport players are typically honored on this night just for being in the program and graduating, and the team banquet is used to honor special accomplishment. Parents were very upset as this was different from previous years, where players were honored by jersey number. I think the boys already know if they are the team star, not every kid is, and it seemed almost sadistic for the coach rub it in, it ruined the night for some of the parents. Is this common in boys HS sports, or is the coach really as crazy as the other parents think.
Half these coaches are egotistical do nothing morons. Our high school coach is the joke of the high school lacrosse community. He does nothing for the boys and they get worse year after year.
No talk about the Pequa Syosset game ?
Pequa was lucky to win, had it not been for an off sides in ot. Hope it ends different next time!
Pequa got lucky when Syosset hired Calabria.
2 great teams. Played 1 great game and could have gone either way
Playoff game will be just as good
Not much more to say
Pequa got lucky when Syosset hired Calabria.
The only HS coaches that have done more for their teams i the last 20 years are Craig in WI and Rotanz in SWR and that is because it was/is their home town and they were involved in the youth programs. Calabria (like or hate his methods ad most people hate them) he is involved 12 months a year, summer team, fall tournaments winter training and 6am's - he has worked with the youth leagues for years and his summer camps help introduce the sport to many kids in town. And no HS coach works harder in helping kids through the recruiting process.
And I would love the above poster to say if he has a kid o the team ad if his kid plays because playing time usually is a direct correlation to Calabria bashing.
So, parents keep complaining, keep getting drunk before the games, Keep throwing punches in the stands and keep $upporting your coach until your kids not playing the whole game and then, and only then, show you are real BRAVE and make an anonymous post about your coach on BOTC .
Half these coaches are egotistical do nothing morons. Our high school coach is the joke of the high school lacrosse community. He does nothing for the boys and they get worse year after year.
Sachem East?
Pequa got lucky when Syosset hired Calabria.
The only HS coaches that have done more for their teams i the last 20 years are Craig in WI and Rotanz in SWR and that is because it was/is their home town and they were involved in the youth programs. Calabria (like or hate his methods ad most people hate them) he is involved 12 months a year, summer team, fall tournaments winter training and 6am's - he has worked with the youth leagues for years and his summer camps help introduce the sport to many kids in town. And no HS coach works harder in helping kids through the recruiting process.
And I would love the above poster to say if he has a kid o the team ad if his kid plays because playing time usually is a direct correlation to Calabria bashing.
So, parents keep complaining, keep getting drunk before the games, Keep throwing punches in the stands and keep $upporting your coach until your kids not playing the whole game and then, and only then, show you are real BRAVE and make an anonymous post about your coach on BOTC .
Exactly how many state trophies does Calabria have? He's average at best until he starts filling up the case. Until then don't even mention his name in the same post as Craig. Calabria has done nothing to this point.
Half these coaches are egotistical do nothing morons. Our high school coach is the joke of the high school lacrosse community. He does nothing for the boys and they get worse year after year.
Farmingdale
Pequa got lucky when Syosset hired Calabria.
The only HS coaches that have done more for their teams i the last 20 years are Craig in WI and Rotanz in SWR and that is because it was/is their home town and they were involved in the youth programs. Calabria (like or hate his methods ad most people hate them) he is involved 12 months a year, summer team, fall tournaments winter training and 6am's - he has worked with the youth leagues for years and his summer camps help introduce the sport to many kids in town. And no HS coach works harder in helping kids through the recruiting process.
And I would love the above poster to say if he has a kid o the team ad if his kid plays because playing time usually is a direct correlation to Calabria bashing.
So, parents keep complaining, keep getting drunk before the games, Keep throwing punches in the stands and keep $upporting your coach until your kids not playing the whole game and then, and only then, show you are real BRAVE and make an anonymous post about your coach on BOTC .
Exactly how many state trophies does Calabria have? He's average at best until he starts filling up the case. Until then don't even mention his name in the same post as Craig. Calabria has done nothing to this point.
Except continually lose to Pequa.
Pequa got lucky when Syosset hired Calabria.
The only HS coaches that have done more for their teams i the last 20 years are Craig in WI and Rotanz in SWR and that is because it was/is their home town and they were involved in the youth programs. Calabria (like or hate his methods ad most people hate them) he is involved 12 months a year, summer team, fall tournaments winter training and 6am's - he has worked with the youth leagues for years and his summer camps help introduce the sport to many kids in town. And no HS coach works harder in helping kids through the recruiting process.
And I would love the above poster to say if he has a kid o the team ad if his kid plays because playing time usually is a direct correlation to Calabria bashing.
So, parents keep complaining, keep getting drunk before the games, Keep throwing punches in the stands and keep $upporting your coach until your kids not playing the whole game and then, and only then, show you are real BRAVE and make an anonymous post about your coach on BOTC .
Exactly how many state trophies does Calabria have? He's average at best until he starts filling up the case. Until then don't even mention his name in the same post as Craig. Calabria has done nothing to this point.
Syosset better win something this year because once these Seniors leave we'll really see how good the coach is next year.
Syosset better win something this year because once these Seniors leave we'll really see how good the coach is next year.
you have no idea what you are talking about the Juniors are carrying this team. And everybody said they would never win after Jeff Cohen and then everybody said he would never win without TR but they have.
Except continually lose to Pequa.
except 06, twice in 07, 08, twice in 09, 12 and one coming up in 2015
Except continually lose to Pequa.
except 06, twice in 07, 08, twice in 09, 12 and one coming up in 2015
Worry about beating Port in the semi before get your chance at Massapequa first.
SYO and Pequa will play in the finals, both will cruise in.
Tired of hearing Seniors, juniors, this one that one carrying the team!!!!! What happened to WE ARE A TEAM???? Wake up people!!!! WIN as a TEAM lose as a TEAM! One for all and all for one! Whatever team shows up that day in the playoffs, wins. Realize it parents and stop being idiots!!!
Lucky Pequa had 3 three great looks before end of regulation- hit pipe once. than with 7 seconds derew up a play and almost scored.
What is with the Syosset coach screaming at refs and one time flowed a Massapequa players for 10 yards belittle him
Coach is out of control
Shoreham wading river team looks like the team to beat in the B division. The new coach Taylor has this team rolling!!
Tired of hearing Seniors, juniors, this one that one carrying the team!!!!! What happened to WE ARE A TEAM???? Wake up people!!!! WIN as a TEAM lose as a TEAM! One for all and all for one! Whatever team shows up that day in the playoffs, wins. Realize it parents and stop being idiots!!!
Could not agree more!!! So tired of hearing about seniors. It all about the TEAM. Put the best players on the field regardless of age to represent the town and win or lose as a TEAM. Everyone is accountable .
Tired of hearing Seniors, juniors, this one that one carrying the team!!!!! What happened to WE ARE A TEAM???? Wake up people!!!! WIN as a TEAM lose as a TEAM! One for all and all for one! Whatever team shows up that day in the playoffs, wins. Realize it parents and stop being idiots!!!
Could not agree more!!! So tired of hearing about seniors. It all about the TEAM. Put the best players on the field regardless of age to represent the town and win or lose as a TEAM. Everyone is accountable .
In high school or college it's always about Senior leadership, maturity and experience. When your son is a Senior I doubt you'll be advocating for an underclass kid to take your sons field time because some mommy or daddy Thinks their kid is better. The benefit of the doubt always goes to the Senior.
when do the teams start pulling up JV players to see if they can help for playoffs
Yorktown going on a 4 game losing streak. May win one of the 3.
white plains undefeated is a joke. You talk about LI and weak schedules. check theirs out.
white plains undefeated is a joke. You talk about LI and weak schedules. check theirs out.
Half these coaches are egotistical do nothing morons. Our high school coach is the joke of the high school lacrosse community. He does nothing for the boys and they get worse year after year.
For the most part, really awful people.
GC beat Carey 11-8
Carey had 'em 6-5 after 3 qtr
Carey em and lost their mojo late!!!
GC is starting to gain momentum. I think by the time the playoffs roll around they are going to be peaking. They have the best defense on the Island. Offense needs work but I think they can win low scoring games with the D.
GC beat Carey 11-8
Carey had 'em 6-5 after 3 qtr
Carey em and lost their mojo late!!!
GC is starting to gain momentum. I think by the time the playoffs roll around they are going to be peaking. They have the best defense on the Island. Offense needs work but I think they can win low scoring games with the D.
I agree with this. Don't count out GC.
GC beat Carey 11-8
Carey had 'em 6-5 after 3 qtr
Carey em and lost their mojo late!!!
GC is starting to gain momentum. I think by the time the playoffs roll around they are going to be peaking. They have the best defense on the Island. Offense needs work but I think they can win low scoring games with the D.
GAA
GC 6.27
Mass 6
Brook 5.83
SYO 5.5
He knows who he is. He should take his circus act and leave .Don't forget to take the [lacrosse] with you.
GC beat Carey 11-8
Carey had 'em 6-5 after 3 qtr
Carey em and lost their mojo late!!!
GC is starting to gain momentum. I think by the time the playoffs roll around they are going to be peaking. They have the best defense on the Island. Offense needs work but I think they can win low scoring games with the D.
GAA
GC 6.27
Mass 6
Brook 5.83
SYO 5.5
Not a meaningful difference when you factor in that GC has the toughest strength of schedule of these. Safe to say GC has among the best defenses on the island. Other teams are far more advanced offensively and possess the ball more which also accounts for differential.
GC beat Carey 11-8
Carey had 'em 6-5 after 3 qtr
Carey em and lost their mojo late!!!
GC is starting to gain momentum. I think by the time the playoffs roll around they are going to be peaking.
They have the best defense on the Island. Offense needs work but I think they can win low scoring games with the D.
GAA
GC 6.27
Mass 6
Brook 5.83
SYO 5.5
Not a meaningful difference when you factor in that GC has the toughest strength of schedule of these.
Safe to say GC has among the best defenses on the island. Other teams are far more advanced offensively and possess the ball more which also accounts for differential.
First post said best on LI the second post said among the best - that is why the guy posted the GAA, to say that yes they are good but a few teams could make the same argument
While GAA is a important measure of defense, there are a lot of stats that need to taken into account such as FO %, Save %, where are shots taken, groundball wins. Also, can your defense shut down the opposing teams best player. I am not sure it is possible to have a best D or O - most important to have a best team and that is easy - just win the last playoff game of the year.....
they (GC) may have among the best defense on LI, but you need more than 3 saves in the cage.
Strong schedule yes but they lost to most of those good schools. When you lose it means you did not play good defense. The only reason they are making a run is their conference is weak and that is who they are playing. They are only going to get weaker the next 3-4 years. Nothing in pipeline and those who are may leave for Chaminade unless coach makes promises of Varsity move up like he has done so many times in the past. A lot of unhappy people because of those promises and playing time.
Inmates running the asylum there? Not good.
In my town, parent wants to speak with the coach, no problem; assistants, parent and player must all be present. Good policy. Keeps everyone on the same page... And it was put in place because of the trending above referenced situation with all the Daddy Warbucks and their prodigy kids...
Strong schedule yes but they lost to most of those good schools. When you lose it means you did not play good defense. The only reason they are making a run is their conference is weak and that is who they are playing. They are only going to get weaker the next 3-4 years. Nothing in pipeline and those who are may leave for Chaminade unless coach makes promises of Varsity move up like he has done so many times in the past. A lot of unhappy people because of those promises and playing time.
I agree that there conference is really weak. Carey, Long Beach & Calhoun are the next best teams in that order. Wantagh is typically good but not this year. Not much talent on that team, which is really unusual? But none of these teams are at GC’s level. GC has played some tough teams within 3 goals. But they are not on the same level as the elite teams. Massapequa and Syosset.
Agree with the above. the sad thing is that it didn't have to be this way. The whole E.C. thing has ruined it all. look at attendance at home game vs next town rival.... where there used to be throngs of youngsters and fellow students, alumni, and parents you see about 100 fans there . I guess maybe parents and students are on to the system.
Why is nobody talking about Ward Melville v Chaminade tonight at 6:00pm?
Should be another good matchup
Agree with the above. the sad thing is that it didn't have to be this way. The whole E.C. thing has ruined it all. look at attendance at home game vs next town rival.... where there used to be throngs of youngsters and fellow students, alumni, and parents you see about 100 fans there . I guess maybe parents and students are on to the system.
This year Nassau Conference B1 could be the weakest conference in Nassau.
Why is nobody talking about Ward Melville v Chaminade tonight at 6:00pm?
Should be another good matchup
Dont think either want to jinx themselves. Hard to call this one. Ward Melville winning spins LI lax into a tizzy. Just as much as WQest beating East. I Still dint think WM doesnt jump ahead of Pequ or Syo in regional poles. Don't think they will jump ahead of Northport or Connetquot in Sect XI rankings either. Head to head means something.
GO PATRIOTS, COME OUT HUNGRY AND IT IS YOUR GAME!!!!
Agree with the above. the sad thing is that it didn't have to be this way. The whole E.C. thing has ruined it all. look at attendance at home game vs next town rival.... where there used to be throngs of youngsters and fellow students, alumni, and parents you see about 100 fans there . I guess maybe parents and students are on to the system.
Why does E.C. have anything to do with the popularity of a high school game? If anything I think it makes the games more exciting. Kids who are committed generally looking to win instead of playing for their stats.
Why is nobody talking about Ward Melville v Chaminade tonight at 6:00pm?
Should be another good matchup
Dont think either want to jinx themselves. Hard to call this one. Ward Melville winning spins LI lax into a tizzy. Just as much as WQest beating East. I Still dint think WM doesnt jump ahead of Pequ or Syo in regional poles. Don't think they will jump ahead of Northport or Connetquot in Sect XI rankings either. Head to head means something.
GO PATRIOTS, COME OUT HUNGRY AND IT IS YOUR GAME!!!!
Ward Melville wins LI lax officially in a tizzy lol WM 7-5
Wow, very interesting to see publics beating the Catholic powers. In the future we may see people moving to public hotbed rather than paying for private for a competitive lax experience coupled with a class a education.
I guess all of the good refs are in Suffolk "A" because Suffolk "B" has nothing but PAL officials. Just brutal to think these guys get paid
Wow, very interesting to see publics beating the Catholic powers. In the future we may see people moving to public hotbed rather than paying for private for a competitive lax experience coupled with a class a education.
Have you been living under a rock? Lacrosse people have been choosing to live in places like Garden City, Manhasset and Three Villeges (Ward Melville) because of the great lacrosse for years.
I guess all of the good refs are in Suffolk "A" because Suffolk "B" has nothing but PAL officials. Just brutal to think these guys get paid
What game??
Wow, very interesting to see publics beating the Catholic powers. In the future we may see people moving to public hotbed rather than paying for private for a competitive lax experience coupled with a class a education.
Have you been living under a rock? Lacrosse people have been choosing to live in places like Garden City, Manhasset and Three Villeges (Ward Melville) because of the great lacrosse for years.
No rock here! Just enjoying seeing the tide turning towards the top publics. Got tired of the pompous rich folk bragging about their teams. Right back atcha!
Wow blaming the refs. Of course it is always the refs.I sit and watch some of these games and hear the stuff said in the stands about the refs and laugh because the people don't know the rules. In the same game they are asking for pal rules and college rules.
Wow, very interesting to see publics beating the Catholic powers. In the future we may see people moving to public hotbed rather than paying for private for a competitive lax experience coupled with a class a education.
Have you been living under a rock? Lacrosse people have been choosing to live in places like Garden City, Manhasset and Three Villeges (Ward Melville) because of the great lacrosse for years.
No rock here! Just enjoying seeing the tide turning towards the top publics. Got tired of the pompous rich folk bragging about their teams. Right back atcha!
Are you saying that there are no pompous rich folk that live in The Three Villages, Manhasset, Garden City, Cold Spring Harbor, Massapequa, Syosset, Northport Smithtown ect...? If you do not live under a rock then you keep your head in the sand
We played Wantagh and I think they had some decent talent. Maybe not on par with previous years though. That seems to be the story throughout the conference. They always have players to reload every year but can't get over the hump (GC). How about LB only downed by one goal to GC.
Wow, very interesting to see publics beating the Catholic powers. In the future we may see people moving to public hotbed rather than paying for private for a competitive lax experience coupled with a class a education.
Have you been living under a rock? Lacrosse people have been choosing to live in places like Garden City, Manhasset and Three Villeges (Ward Melville) because of the great lacrosse for years.
No rock here! Just enjoying seeing the tide turning towards the top publics. Got tired of the pompous rich folk bragging about their teams. Right back atcha!
Nothing new here as it pertains to publics beating the Catholics. Historical perspective is important to understand stand. Oh, and paying $10k to send your kid to a catholic school is hardly the definition of rich. Get over it.
B1 is weak ? outside of top 3 teams in nassau A hicksville farmingdale oceanside etc have lost to multiple teams from conference b1 and 2
When playing in a mismatch, what obligation does the team with the lead have to make the game respectable?
The best I have heard is that if you have a large lead you should never put a 20th point on the board. I am specifically talking to the HS Varsity level. In the non-hot beds, there are plenty of mismatches and some coaches just don't see themselves as having a obligation to help grow the game. All thoughts are appreciated.
Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Varsity coaches try to avoid 20 goals. Sometimes it is hard but most will try and not score 20. And you never score that 20th with any starter in the game.
I don't think any coach is obligated to pull up to keep the score down. There are 2nd and 3rd string players that see their only play time in these lopsided games. If they get a chance to score, maybe the only time for them all season, take it. There is nothing better than a non starter making the box score with the little playtime he might get. The coach should just do his best to play the bench.
Do you really think people move to an area because of their lacrosse program? They are moving into great school districts for the education which just happen to have good lacrosse programs. Baldwin has good football and I don't see a line at the local realtors office.
Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Great question and a debatable issue for sure. Don't know what's worse, shooting and scoring or playing keep away for half the game. Both are demoralizing in their own way.
With shooting the losing team has a chance at regaining possession. At the very least, teams should go deep into their bench after securing a comfortable lead.
Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Playing keep away is unsportsmanlike.
Do you really think people move to an area because of their lacrosse program? They are moving into great school districts for the education which just happen to have good lacrosse programs. Baldwin has good football and I don't see a line at the local realtors office.
Yes, "Lacrosse People" will consider the strength of the lacrosse program when selecting a town to live in. Just like in college where some of the best Universities in the country also have strong lacrosse programs. Some of the best School Districts on the Island also have great lacrosse programs.
Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Playing keep away is unsportsmanlike.
I have seen coaches up by 10 or more with starters still in game, double teaming and pushing the offense. There is a right way to win and lose a game. The HS division should be broken down by talent so all teams have competitive games. It is not what either team wants with that big a gap in ability.
hows the lacrosse in Old Brookville or Sands Point? I know lots of "lacrosse people" who live there.
hows the lacrosse in Old Brookville or Sands Point? I know lots of "lacrosse people" who live there.
It's Very Rich
Do you really think people move to an area because of their lacrosse program? They are moving into great school districts for the education which just happen to have good lacrosse programs. Baldwin has good football and I don't see a line at the local realtors office.
Yes, "Lacrosse People" will consider the strength of the lacrosse program when selecting a town to live in. Just like in college where some of the best Universities in the country also have strong lacrosse programs. Some of the best School Districts on the Island also have great lacrosse programs.
Absolutely! Right or wrong, crazy or not, I live in GC and know first hand this to be the case (not me).
Why is nobody talking about Ward Melville v Chaminade tonight at 6:00pm?
Should be another good matchup
Dont think either want to jinx themselves. Hard to call this one. Ward Melville winning spins LI lax into a tizzy. Just as much as WQest beating East. I Still dint think WM doesnt jump ahead of Pequ or Syo in regional poles. Don't think they will jump ahead of Northport or Connetquot in Sect XI rankings either. Head to head means something.
GO PATRIOTS, COME OUT HUNGRY AND IT IS YOUR GAME!!!!
Ward Melville wins LI lax officially in a tizzy lol WM 7-5
Still didnt come out hungry. The real tizzy comes later today. Lots of games nobody's talking about.
This year Nassau Conference B1 could be the weakest conference in Nassau. Neither team very strong. Who has Carey beat?
This year Nassau Conference B1 could be the weakest conference in Nassau. Neither team very strong. Who has Carey beat?
Agreed, not the best lax being played in B1 this year. Very surprising? Typically very good.
Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Playing keep away is unsportsmanlike.
I have seen coaches up by 10 or more with starters still in game, double teaming and pushing the offense. There is a right way to win and lose a game. The HS division should be broken down by talent so all teams have competitive games. It is not what either team wants with that big a gap in ability.
To your first point I will say 10 goals in a lacrosse game can be made up quickly. It happens often so I understand keeping the pressure on at that point.
To your second point I will add there is no way to make all divisions competitive all the time. The team personnel change every year and in your scenario who would be evaluating the talent to determine placement? it's impossible to do as you described.
Finally I would say to the teams that struggle year in and year out that maybe it's time to evaluate the program a a whole. What I mean by that is take note of the HS teams that are "on top" every year and you will see good coaches and a strong youth program. If you want to change a losing tradition then simply get to work changing the youth program and varsity coaches. The AD and the BOE can handle the coaches and parents can handle the youth program. Get to work!!
Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Playing keep away is unsportsmanlike.
I have seen coaches up by 10 or more with starters still in game, double teaming and pushing the offense. There is a right way to win and lose a game. The HS division should be broken down by talent so all teams have competitive games. It is not what either team wants with that big a gap in ability.
To your first point I will say 10 goals in a lacrosse game can be made up quickly. It happens often so I understand keeping the pressure on at that point.
To your second point I will add there is no way to make all divisions competitive all the time. The team personnel change every year and in your scenario who would be evaluating the talent to determine placement? it's impossible to do as you described.
Finally I would say to the teams that struggle year in and year out that maybe it's time to evaluate the program a a whole. What I mean by that is take note of the HS teams that are "on top" every year and you will see good coaches and a strong youth program. If you want to change a losing tradition then simply get to work changing the youth program and varsity coaches. The AD and the BOE can handle the coaches and parents can handle the youth program. Get to work!!
Amen!
West has so much to gain from today's game and East has soooo much to loose. Actually League 2 as a whole has a lot to win or loose here. East wining helps League 2 as a whole. West winning hurts the whole league.
Expect East to win fairly big
East Defense can be exploited. the face off specialist covers up a lot of the problems.
Do you really think people move to an area because of their lacrosse program? They are moving into great school districts for the education which just happen to have good lacrosse programs. Baldwin has good football and I don't see a line at the local realtors office.
All things being equal and if I think my kid will be a lacrosse player I am moving to WM not SWR, Manhasset not North Shore and or Port Washington not GNN - just sayin'
No comments about WM beating Chaminade?
the issue becomes can west defense contain East offense.
Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Playing keep away is unsportsmanlike.
I have seen coaches up by 10 or more with starters still in game, double teaming and pushing the offense. There is a right way to win and lose a game. The HS division should be broken down by talent so all teams have competitive games. It is not what either team wants with that big a gap in ability.
To your first point I will say 10 goals in a lacrosse game can be made up quickly. It happens often so I understand keeping the pressure on at that point.
To your second point I will add there is no way to make all divisions competitive all the time. The team personnel change every year and in your scenario who would be evaluating the talent to determine placement? it's impossible to do as you described.
Finally I would say to the teams that struggle year in and year out that maybe it's time to evaluate the program a a whole. What I mean by that is take note of the HS teams that are "on top" every year and you will see good coaches and a strong youth program. If you want to change a losing tradition then simply get to work changing the youth program and varsity coaches. The AD and the BOE can handle the coaches and parents can handle the youth program. Get to work!!
Thanks for the speech HOp.
Do you really think people move to an area because of their lacrosse program? They are moving into great school districts for the education which just happen to have good lacrosse programs. Baldwin has good football and I don't see a line at the local realtors office.
All things being equal and if I think my kid will be a lacrosse player I am moving to WM not SWR, Manhasset not North Shore and or Port Washington not GNN - just sayin'
you probably can't afford to
Do you really think people move to an area because of their lacrosse program? They are moving into great school districts for the education which just happen to have good lacrosse programs. Baldwin has good football and I don't see a line at the local realtors office.
All things being equal and if I think my kid will be a lacrosse player I am moving to WM not SWR, Manhasset not North Shore and or Port Washington not GNN - just sayin'
you probably can't afford to
I started with "all things being equal" meaning same house prices, similar education ect. I would pick a lacrosse town over a o lacrosse town . All very good schools
I see your point but would you actually uproot your family and move to a district just for lacrosse. I think not. I was not able to evaluate my son when he was 4 years old. Luckily I bought my house where the lax is decent.
Nassau C is a mess. Used to be good. What happened?
Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Playing keep away is unsportsmanlike.
I have seen coaches up by 10 or more with starters still in game, double teaming and pushing the offense. There is a right way to win and lose a game. The HS division should be broken down by talent so all teams have competitive games. It is not what either team wants with that big a gap in ability.
To your first point I will say 10 goals in a lacrosse game can be made up quickly. It happens often so I understand keeping the pressure on at that point.
To your second point I will add there is no way to make all divisions competitive all the time. The team personnel change every year and in your scenario who would be evaluating the talent to determine placement? it's impossible to do as you described.
Finally I would say to the teams that struggle year in and year out that maybe it's time to evaluate the program a a whole. What I mean by that is take note of the HS teams that are "on top" every year and you will see good coaches and a strong youth program. If you want to change a losing tradition then simply get to work changing the youth program and varsity coaches. The AD and the BOE can handle the coaches and parents can handle the youth program. Get to work!!
Thanks for the speech HOp.
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Guess your one of the parents who needed the speech. You think you can write a schedule huh?
Ok then...As a board member of US Lacrosse LIMLF and 40 years of lacrosse experience I will certainly look you up and recommend you get involved in HS scheduling. Then you can get involved instead of posting ridiculous comments challenging me on a topic I have decades more experience than you do.
As far as moderating goes let me if you enjoy my moderation of your post. Good luck.
To our friends/competitors at quot--congrats on being number 13 this week! Hold on tight, the ride might get a little bumpy but you deserve the recognition.
WM will see you in the playoffs!
1. Haverford School (Pa.) 17-0
2. Massapequa (N.Y.) 12-0
3. Hill Academy (Ont.) 9-1
4. Hun School (N.J.) 11-0
5. Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-1
6. Georgetown Prep (Md.) 10-2
7. Darien (Conn.) 7-0
8. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.) 14-2
9. Syosset (N.Y.) 11-1
10. Landon (Md.) 16-2
11. Gonzaga (Md.) 14-3
12. St. Ignatius Prep (Calif.) 13-1
13. Connetqout (N.Y.) 11-0
14. Boys' Latin (Md.) 12-3
15. McDonogh (Md.) 10-4
16. Northport (N.Y.) 10-1
17. St. Augustine Prep (N.J.) 9-2
18. Ward Melville (N.Y.) 9-2
19. Smithtown East (N.Y.) 10-1
20. Chaminade (N.Y.) 9-2
21. Pittsford (N.Y.) 12-0
22. Brunswick (Conn.) 8-2
23. Calvert Hall (Md.) 11-3
24. St. Thomas Aquinas (Fla.) 20-0
25. Delbarton (N.J.) 9-1
the issue becomes can west defense contain East offense.
and the answer was - No
Friends and LV were flashes in the pan...Return to Status quo...CSH in Nassau C it would seem... though Seaford seems to be making consistent improvement each year... Where are all those Friends and LV fans from last year declaring CSH's reign being over?? still plenty of season left though...
Seriously, is there anything better in the entire Long Island if not national lacrose scene than the Woodstick?
To our friends/competitors at quot--congrats on being number 13 this week! Hold on tight, the ride might get a little bumpy but you deserve the recognition.
WM will see you in the playoffs!
1. Haverford School (Pa.) 17-0
2. Massapequa (N.Y.) 12-0
3. Hill Academy (Ont.) 9-1
4. Hun School (N.J.) 11-0
5. Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-1
6. Georgetown Prep (Md.) 10-2
7. Darien (Conn.) 7-0
8. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.) 14-2
9. Syosset (N.Y.) 11-1
10. Landon (Md.) 16-2
11. Gonzaga (Md.) 14-3
12. St. Ignatius Prep (Calif.) 13-1
13. Connetqout (N.Y.) 11-0
14. Boys' Latin (Md.) 12-3
15. McDonogh (Md.) 10-4
16. Northport (N.Y.) 10-1
17. St. Augustine Prep (N.J.) 9-2
18. Ward Melville (N.Y.) 9-2
19. Smithtown East (N.Y.) 10-1
20. Chaminade (N.Y.) 9-2
21. Pittsford (N.Y.) 12-0
22. Brunswick (Conn.) 8-2
23. Calvert Hall (Md.) 11-3
24. St. Thomas Aquinas (Fla.) 20-0
25. Delbarton (N.J.) 9-1
That didn't last long, will be out now after loss to Port. Hope they enjoyed the 15 min!
I would keep them in. Northport, WM and Quot are a push with anyone of them being able to beat the other on any given day. Nothing wrong with having a 9-8 loss to a very strong Northport squad.
I would keep them in. Northport, WM and Quot are a push with anyone of them being able to beat the other on any given day. Nothing wrong with having a 9-8 loss to a very strong Northport squad.
Good fight, but a loss is a loss, they are out! Almost isn't good enough
Seriously, is there anything better in the entire Long Island if not national lacrose scene than the Woodstick?
It is good as long as GC wins lol
I am not from SWR but from my view it goes to show how a good coach can make a big difference in a year for a good team. Last year SWR lost 5 games by (1) goal (2 of them ot) then their 6th loss was a 2 goal game. from all the crap spewed on here last year you would have thought the games wernt that close.
winners find a way to win.
To our friends/competitors at quot--congrats on being number 13 this week! Hold on tight, the ride might get a little bumpy but you deserve the recognition.
WM will see you in the playoffs!
1. Haverford School (Pa.) 17-0
2. Massapequa (N.Y.) 12-0
3. Hill Academy (Ont.) 9-1
4. Hun School (N.J.) 11-0
5. Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-1
6. Georgetown Prep (Md.) 10-2
7. Darien (Conn.) 7-0
8. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.) 14-2
9. Syosset (N.Y.) 11-1
10. Landon (Md.) 16-2
11. Gonzaga (Md.) 14-3
12. St. Ignatius Prep (Calif.) 13-1
13. Connetqout (N.Y.) 11-0
14. Boys' Latin (Md.) 12-3
15. McDonogh (Md.) 10-4
16. Northport (N.Y.) 10-1
17. St. Augustine Prep (N.J.) 9-2
18. Ward Melville (N.Y.) 9-2
19. Smithtown East (N.Y.) 10-1
20. Chaminade (N.Y.) 9-2
21. Pittsford (N.Y.) 12-0
22. Brunswick (Conn.) 8-2
23. Calvert Hall (Md.) 11-3
24. St. Thomas Aquinas (Fla.) 20-0
25. Delbarton (N.J.) 9-1
These rankings are based on reputation. I believe Smithtown East is seriously underrated. Their ability to dominate the face off has made them an offensive machine. Very hard to beat them when you don't have the ball. I would put them right there in the top 5 easily.
I agree. Smithtown East is a force. Their fogo is great. They should be below Northport this year. Let's see who it turns out in the playoffs.
Don't count out WM either...Beat a pretty good Ridgefield team last night 12-6...
This year alone WM played Ridgefield, Yorktown, WI and Chammy. More competition makes the team better come playoffs.
But, WM did lose to quot in double OT and northport in last minute...so, feel free to rank both northport and quot higher, playoofs should settle the rankings.
I am not from SWR but from my view it goes to show how a good coach can make a big difference in a year for a good team. Last year SWR lost 5 games by (1) goal (2 of them ot) then their 6th loss was a 2 goal game. from all the crap spewed on here last year you would have thought the games wernt that close.
winners find a way to win.
Not so much about being a winner as about coaching ability or lack there of. The new guy has an extensive lacrosse resume of successful coaching. He is getting the best out of his players talents. The best coaches "taylor" there game plan to most effectively use the talent he has. Clearly the man is doing it at a high level. No not an SWR parent, parent of a player from another town that played the team.
Don't count out WM either...Beat a pretty good Ridgefield team last night 12-6...
This year alone WM played Ridgefield, Yorktown, WI and Chammy. More competition makes the team better come playoffs.
But, WM did lose to quot in double OT and northport in last minute...so, feel free to rank both northport and quot higher, playoofs should settle the rankings.
Agreed
WM will blow both out just wait
To our friends/competitors at quot--congrats on being number 13 this week! Hold on tight, the ride might get a little bumpy but you deserve the recognition.
WM will see you in the playoffs!
1. Haverford School (Pa.) 17-0
2. Massapequa (N.Y.) 12-0
3. Hill Academy (Ont.) 9-1
4. Hun School (N.J.) 11-0
5. Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-1
6. Georgetown Prep (Md.) 10-2
7. Darien (Conn.) 7-0
8. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.) 14-2
9. Syosset (N.Y.) 11-1
10. Landon (Md.) 16-2
11. Gonzaga (Md.) 14-3
12. St. Ignatius Prep (Calif.) 13-1
13. Connetqout (N.Y.) 11-0
14. Boys' Latin (Md.) 12-3
15. McDonogh (Md.) 10-4
16. Northport (N.Y.) 10-1
17. St. Augustine Prep (N.J.) 9-2
18. Ward Melville (N.Y.) 9-2
19. Smithtown East (N.Y.) 10-1
20. Chaminade (N.Y.) 9-2
21. Pittsford (N.Y.) 12-0
22. Brunswick (Conn.) 8-2
23. Calvert Hall (Md.) 11-3
24. St. Thomas Aquinas (Fla.) 20-0
25. Delbarton (N.J.) 9-1
These rankings are based on reputation. I believe Smithtown East is seriously underrated. Their ability to dominate the face off has made them an offensive machine. Very hard to beat them when you don't have the ball. I would put them right there in the top 5 easily.
Reputation? Connetquot is not # 13 based on reputation!
Northport now No. 13, Connetquot not even in top 20.
Northport excellent season -a lot of unselfish seniors playing great together too bad their senior middie is out w injury:( Hope they go all the way in the play- offs it won't be easy- will be Looking forward to some awesome close games!
How is the Suffolk league 1&2 going to look? I'm assuming Northport and SE will be at the top and Get a by.
any predictions for County champ? I'm hoping Syosset wins Nassau, I think they are ready to do it!
Northport excellent season -a lot of unselfish seniors playing great together too bad their senior middie is out w injury:( Hope they go all the way in the play- offs it won't be easy- will be Looking forward to some awesome close games!
Hasn't connetquot been without their offensive super star.
Something tells me Northport and ward Melville will make it to Suffolk finals. When is the last regular season game is it Tuesday with WI and SW. Not sure you have to wait for that game to be done they are so closely ranked and both make the playoffs you can pencil a winner and loser of this game into their respective playoff slot. As wi/SW losser and wi/SW winner. And they would both be the higher ranked team.
Syosset V St A. today, XXXX won but it was only a scrimmage and when the starters where in YYYY was up and the back ups lost, both teams looked great but XXYY was the better team YYYY should not be so highly rated
I will fill in the blanks after they play
Syosset V St A. today, XXXX won but it was only a scrimmage and when the starters where in YYYY was up and the back ups lost, both teams looked great but XXYY was the better team YYYY should not be so highly rated
I will fill in the blanks after they play
Well?
Any predictions in Nassau B. Just the regulars or does anyone see a possible upset.
L Y N B R O O K - they are playing for second
L Y N B R O O K - they are playing for second
to clarify - everybody else is playing for second
Suffolk (potential look at playoff picture)
1 Northport 12-0 vs East Islip 6-5
8 Sachem East 8-4 vs H H Hills West 8-4
5 H H Hills East 10-2 vs Riverhead 6-6
4 Ward Melville 10-2 vs Commack HS 6-6
3 Connetquot 11-1 vs Middle Country 6-6
6 Smithtown West 9-2 vs Bay Shore 7-5
7 West Islip 9-2 vs Sachem North 8-4
2 Smithtown East 12-0 vs Walt Whitman 6-5
Some minor changes could happen. Sachems?? SW vs WI game??
Suffolk (potential look at playoff picture)
1 Northport 12-0 vs East Islip 6-5
8 Sachem East 8-4 vs H H Hills West 8-4
5 H H Hills East 10-2 vs Riverhead 6-6
4 Ward Melville 10-2 vs Commack HS 6-6
3 Connetquot 11-1 vs Middle Country 6-6
6 Smithtown West 9-2 vs Bay Shore 7-5
7 West Islip 9-2 vs Sachem North 8-4
2 Smithtown East 12-0 vs Walt Whitman 6-5
Some minor changes could happen. Sachems?? SW vs WI game??
Another good way to go would be to Switch Riverhead and Commack. this allows many of the games to be League I vs II. Something I think many wouldlike to see.
Syosset V St A. today, XXXX won but it was only a scrimmage and when the starters where in YYYY was up and the back ups lost, both teams looked great but XXYY was the better team YYYY should not be so highly rated
I will fill in the blanks after they play
Well?
Until they prove otherwise, Syosset is a wannabe.
Syosset V St A. today, XXXX won but it was only a scrimmage and when the starters where in YYYY was up and the back ups lost, both teams looked great but XXYY was the better team YYYY should not be so highly rated
I will fill in the blanks after they play
Well?
Until they prove otherwise, Syosset is a wannabe.
I don't seem to think you grasp things clearly.
How is Syo a wanna be. I see it this way; Syo beat Northport (be it in the beginning of the year) Northport beat Ward Melville and Connetquot and Smithtown east all in the heart of the season.
Syo only lost to Massapequa the #1 team. What are they, a #1 wanna be, which team isn't?
Now Please help me understand How Laxpower has Northport ranked below Smithtown East and Ward Melville. Are these ranking future predictions or a record of how they have done? How can a team with only one loss be ranked below other top teams they beat.
Stop all the whining and bickering! all the truth will come out in the next several weeks. Good luck to all, and then let the bragging rights begin!
Good luck to all the boys with NO injuries.
Good luck to all the boys with NO injuries.
What about the boys
with injuries? you don't wish them good luck?
The rankings are also based on strength of schedule, coaches poll, computer rating, goal, quality wins, record, ratings percentage index and other criteria. Laxpower gives an explanation of how the arrive at the rankings.
Suffolk (potential look at playoff picture)
1 Northport 12-0 vs East Islip 6-5
8 Sachem East 8-4 vs H H Hills West 8-4
5 H H Hills East 10-2 vs Riverhead 6-6
4 Ward Melville 10-2 vs Commack HS 6-6
3 Connetquot 11-1 vs Middle Country 6-6
6 Smithtown West 9-2 vs Bay Shore 7-5
7 West Islip 9-2 vs Sachem North 8-4
2 Smithtown East 12-0 vs Walt Whitman 6-5
Some minor changes could happen. Sachems?? SW vs WI game??
Another good way to go would be to Switch Riverhead and Commack. this allows many of the games to be League I vs II. Something I think many wouldlike to see.
Section Xi take note:
Below puts the top of each League against the bottom of the other. It also seems like it would be the first time these teams had played each other this year. Sure one team may want to be ranked higher but it is all splitting hairs and this philosophy can carry through the entire playoffs and potentially start a great history of a League 1 vs League 2 playoff system.
May 15th
Home League Away League
Northport 1 vs Riverhead 2
Smithtown East 2 vs Middle Country 1
Connetquot 1 vs East Islip 2
Ward Melville 1 vs Walt Whitman 2
H H Hills East 2 vs Commack HS 1
Smithtown West 2 vs Bay Shore 1
West Islip 2 vs Sachem North 1
Sachem East 1 vs H H Hills West 2
May 19th
Home League Away League
Northport 1 vs West Islip 2
Smithtown East 2 vs Sachem East 1
Connetquot 1 vs Smithtown West 2
Ward Melville 1 vs H H Hills East 2
Play for second who's in front of them?
Syosset V St A. today, XXXX won but it was only a scrimmage and when the starters where in YYYY was up and the back ups lost, both teams looked great but XXYY was the better team YYYY should not be so highly rated
I will fill in the blanks after they play
Well?
Until they prove otherwise, Syosset is a wannabe.
I don't seem to think you grasp things clearly.
How is Syo a wanna be. I see it this way; Syo beat Northport (be it in the beginning of the year) Northport beat Ward Melville and Connetquot and Smithtown east all in the heart of the season.
Syo only lost to Massapequa the #1 team. What are they, a #1 wanna be, which team isn't?
Now Please help me understand How Laxpower has Northport ranked below Smithtown East and Ward Melville. Are these ranking future predictions or a record of how they have done? How can a team with only one loss be ranked below other top teams they beat.
Syosset will be a wannabe until they win some State hardware.
Syosset V St A. today, XXXX won but it was only a scrimmage and when the starters where in YYYY was up and the back ups lost, both teams looked great but XXYY was the better team YYYY should not be so highly rated
I will fill in the blanks after they play
Well?
Until they prove otherwise, Syosset is a wannabe.
I don't seem to think you grasp things clearly.
How is Syo a wanna be. I see it this way; Syo beat Northport (be it in the beginning of the year) Northport beat Ward Melville and Connetquot and Smithtown east all in the heart of the season.
Syo only lost to Massapequa the #1 team. What are they, a #1 wanna be, which team isn't?
Now Please help me understand How Laxpower has Northport ranked below Smithtown East and Ward Melville. Are these ranking future predictions or a record of how they have done? How can a team with only one loss be ranked below other top teams they beat.
Syosset will be a wannabe until they win some State hardware.
Don't be bitter because SYO kids probably beat your son's team. They are an outstanding team and don't need to be belittled because they don't have any hardware. Each year is a new year and they have proven to be very impressive this year. Their offense is excellent, lead by two studs going to top D1 schools, and their goalie has been outstanding this year. Get over yourself with the wannabe BS. Jealously doesn't look good on you.
Syosset V St A. today, XXXX won but it was only a scrimmage and when the starters where in YYYY was up and the back ups lost, both teams looked great but XXYY was the better team YYYY should not be so highly rated
I will fill in the blanks after they play
Well?
Until they prove otherwise, Syosset is a wannabe.
I don't seem to think you grasp things clearly.
How is Syo a wanna be. I see it this way; Syo beat Northport (be it in the beginning of the year) Northport beat Ward Melville and Connetquot and Smithtown east all in the heart of the season.
Syo only lost to Massapequa the #1 team. What are they, a #1 wanna be, which team isn't?
Now Please help me understand How Laxpower has Northport ranked below Smithtown East and Ward Melville. Are these ranking future predictions or a record of how they have done? How can a team with only one loss be ranked below other top teams they beat.
Syosset will be a wannabe until they win some State hardware.
Don't be bitter because SYO kids probably beat your son's team. They are an outstanding team and don't need to be belittled because they don't have any hardware. Each year is a new year and they have proven to be very impressive this year. Their offense is excellent, lead by two studs going to top D1 schools, and their goalie has been outstanding this year. Get over yourself with the wannabe BS. Jealously doesn't look good on you.
Hardware or nowhere!
nobody beating Pequa, not Nassau not Suffolk. Get it through your thick heads.
nobody beating Pequa, not Nassau not Suffolk. Get it through your thick heads.
you better hope so, or all you get is tears. Win or go back to your shinebox.
nobody beating Pequa, not Nassau not Suffolk. Get it through your thick heads.
Massapequa is a nice team playing in a weak league in a down year. This team is not WM 2013 - or WI 2006, they are not even as good as Massapequa 2014. The best part of the team is the two ssdm's and ssdm's don't usually win championships, They beat Syosset in OT and should have a tough game against them again and then there are 2-3 Suffolk teams that could beat them. Good luck to the Chiefs, they have a great shot at winning the State Championship again and being undefeated but they have their hard work ahead of them not behind them.
Isn't the best player an attackmen. The goalie also has played very well being he was the back up.
Isn't the best player an attackmen. The goalie also has played very well being he was the back up.
They have a lot of very good players but IMHO #3 is the best athlete and best player on the field whenever he plays, he is a SSDM and won the offensive player of the game in the state championship game last year.
Isn't the best player an attackmen. The goalie also has played very well being he was the back up.
They have a lot of very good players but IMHO #3 is the best athlete and best player on the field whenever he plays, he is a SSDM and won the offensive player of the game in the state championship game last year.
Thanks for the update,dad.
The person who replied "thanks for the update,dad" should get there facts correct before attacking with hurt full comments. The player that you comment about lost his dad a while back and has been raised by a strong single mom. The player is an intelligent, hard working individual who will be attending Yale next year. If you knew anything about this player you wouldn't make the comments that you did. There's no better teammate then this player and he's the type of player that you build a team around. He's never about ME and will do whatever it takes to help his team win. Tired of all the negatives comments.
The person who replied "thanks for the update,dad" should get there facts correct before attacking with hurt full comments. The player that you comment about lost his dad a while back and has been raised by a strong single mom. The player is an intelligent, hard working individual who will be attending Yale next year. If you knew anything about this player you wouldn't make the comments that you did. There's no better teammate then this player and he's the type of player that you build a team around. He's never about ME and will do whatever it takes to help his team win. Tired of all the negatives comments.
Thank you for writing this. Comments like this are beyond hurtful and ridiculous. What do people gain from writing things like, "thanks for the update, dad."????? Stop being MEAN for no reason!!! Let's use this website to have healthy discussions and share opinions, but not to tear apart children, other high school and club teams, and each other.
Be more careful about what you post. I can't imagine how hurtful that post would be if the young man were to see it. Luckily this website is mainly filled with angry adults who care way too much about the negatives and don't focus enough on what is so great about this sport that our children seem to love.
does anyone know when suffolk county is publishing the playoff brackets and schedule?
The person who replied "thanks for the update,dad" should get there facts correct before attacking with hurt full comments. The player that you comment about lost his dad a while back and has been raised by a strong single mom. The player is an intelligent, hard working individual who will be attending Yale next year. If you knew anything about this player you wouldn't make the comments that you did. There's no better teammate then this player and he's the type of player that you build a team around. He's never about ME and will do whatever it takes to help his team win. Tired of all the negatives comments.
Thank you for writing this. Comments like this are beyond hurtful and ridiculous. What do people gain from writing things like, "thanks for the update, dad."????? Stop being MEAN for no reason!!! Let's use this website to have healthy discussions and share opinions, but not to tear apart children, other high school and club teams, and each other.
Be more careful about what you post. I can't imagine how hurtful that post would be if the young man were to see it. Luckily this website is mainly filled with angry adults who care way too much about the negatives and don't focus enough on what is so great about this sport that our children seem to love.
Easy there! On an anonymous forum where nobody even really knows which kid is being refered to, a comment of "thanks dad" is a figure of speech meant to imply , stop bragging about your own kid! Anyone who come on here saying so and so is the best player on the team. Lacrosse is a team sport and it is insulting to the other kids on the TEAM to say one is the best. Instead maybe try saying, "the middle has been playing really well this season"
The person who replied "thanks for the update,dad" should get there facts correct before attacking with hurt full comments. The player that you comment about lost his dad a while back and has been raised by a strong single mom. The player is an intelligent, hard working individual who will be attending Yale next year. If you knew anything about this player you wouldn't make the comments that you did. There's no better teammate then this player and he's the type of player that you build a team around. He's never about ME and will do whatever it takes to help his team win. Tired of all the negatives comments.
Thank you for writing this. Comments like this are beyond hurtful and ridiculous. What do people gain from writing things like, "thanks for the update, dad."????? Stop being MEAN for no reason!!! Let's use this website to have healthy discussions and share opinions, but not to tear apart children, other high school and club teams, and each other.
Be more careful about what you post. I can't imagine how hurtful that post would be if the young man were to see it. Luckily this website is mainly filled with angry adults who care way too much about the negatives and don't focus enough on what is so great about this sport that our children seem to love.
Easy there! On an anonymous forum where nobody even really knows which kid is being refered to, a comment of "thanks dad" is a figure of speech meant to imply , stop bragging about your own kid! Anyone who come on here saying so and so is the best player on the team. Lacrosse is a team sport and it is insulting to the other kids on the TEAM to say one is the best. Instead maybe try saying, "the middle has been playing really well this season"
thank you for you clarity - I had no idea what "thanks dad" meant or implied on an anonymous forum - I also agree that it is a TEAM sport, that is why I am against having All-County, All-American and POY awards because it is a team sport so why single out only certain players?
nobody beating Pequa, not Nassau not Suffolk. Get it through your thick heads.
where the heck is pequa? never heard of it
The person who replied "thanks for the update,dad" should get there facts correct before attacking with hurt full comments. The player that you comment about lost his dad a while back and has been raised by a strong single mom. The player is an intelligent, hard working individual who will be attending Yale next year. If you knew anything about this player you wouldn't make the comments that you did. There's no better teammate then this player and he's the type of player that you build a team around. He's never about ME and will do whatever it takes to help his team win. Tired of all the negatives comments.
Thank you for writing this. Comments like this are beyond hurtful and ridiculous. What do people gain from writing things like, "thanks for the update, dad."????? Stop being MEAN for no reason!!! Let's use this website to have healthy discussions and share opinions, but not to tear apart children, other high school and club teams, and each other.
Be more careful about what you post. I can't imagine how hurtful that post would be if the young man were to see it. Luckily this website is mainly filled with angry adults who care way too much about the negatives and don't focus enough on what is so great about this sport that our children seem to love.
Easy there! On an anonymous forum where nobody even really knows which kid is being refered to, a comment of "thanks dad" is a figure of speech meant to imply , stop bragging about your own kid! Anyone who come on here saying so and so is the best player on the team. Lacrosse is a team sport and it is insulting to the other kids on the TEAM to say one is the best. Instead maybe try saying, "the middle has been playing really well this season"
thank you for you clarity - I had no idea what "thanks dad" meant or implied on an anonymous forum - I also agree that it is a TEAM sport, that is why I am against having All-County, All-American and POY awards because it is a team sport so why single out only certain players?
Some kids are better then others. Not everyone gets a trophy. Little league is over. Some kids put in a lot of hard work and should be recognized for it. Just like the college level and pros.
[quote=Anonymous]The person who replied "thanks for the update,dad" should get there facts correct before attacking with hurt full comments. The player that you comment about lost his dad a while back and has been raised by a strong single mom. The player is an intelligent, hard working individual who will be attending Yale next year. If you knew anything about this player you wouldn't make the comments that you did. There's no better teammate then this player and he's the type of player that you build a team around. He's never about ME and will do whatever it takes to help his team win. Tired of all the negatives comments.
Thank you for writing this. Comments like this are beyond hurtful and ridiculous. What do people gain from writing things like, "thanks for the update, dad."????? Stop being MEAN for no reason!!! Let's use this website to have healthy discussions and share opinions, but not to tear apart children, other high school and club teams, and each other.
Be more careful about what you post. I can't imagine how hurtful that post would be if the young man were to see it. Luckily this website is mainly filled with angry adults who care way too much about the negatives and don't focus enough on what is so great about this sport that our children seem to love.
Easy there! On an anonymous forum where nobody even really knows which kid is being refered to, a comment of "thanks dad" is a figure of speech meant to imply , stop bragging about your own kid! Anyone who come on here saying so and so is the best player on the team. Lacrosse is a team sport and it is insulting to the other kids on the TEAM to say one is the best. Instead maybe try saying, "the middle has been playing really well this season"
thank you for you clarity - I had no idea what "thanks dad" meant or implied on an anonymous forum - I also agree that it is a TEAM sport, that is why I am against having All-County, All-American and POY awards because it is a team sport so why single out only certain players?
Some kids are better then others. Not everyone gets a trophy. Little league is over. Some kids put in a lot of hard work and should be recognized for it. Just like the college level and pros.
Here here. Agreed
Suffolk brackets up on section x1. Looks good
HHH west up to old tricks Jimmy Mule back on sidelines after getting thrown off Once again shakes up attack line up to fit in his 8th grade son Moved a senior attack man to midfield same thing he did when his other son was coming through Yes his other son deserves a spot but his first year playing there was a better attack man he moved to midfield Same story once again SMH Only in Dix Hills Hills west coach is cluless so he lets him bring on his 91 players where there are better players on roster Why is there a daddy coach in high school Does this happen anywhere else? He had zero interest in the program until his sons started playing. We thought we would escape it in hs as he messed up whole club program in the Hills When will it end
THE HILLS WEST COACH IS A COMPLETE DOUGHNUT HAS NO IDEA HOW TO COACH SO HE IS LOOKING FOR OUTSIDE HELP, HE DOES THE SAMETHING COACHING 2ND GRADERS .... IT IS A SHAME A HIGH SCHOOL COACH WOULD LET THAT HAPPEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HHH west up to old tricks Jimmy Mule back on sidelines after getting thrown off Once again shakes up attack line up to fit in his 8th grade son Moved a senior attack man to midfield same thing he did when his other son was coming through Yes his other son deserves a spot but his first year playing there was a better attack man he moved to midfield Same story once again SMH Only in Dix Hills Hills west coach is cluless so he lets him bring on his 91 players where there are better players on roster Why is there a daddy coach in high school Does this happen anywhere else? He had zero interest in the program until his sons started playing. We thought we would escape it in hs as he messed up whole club program in the Hills When will it end
HHHW Coach has his kid on 91 too. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
So true about hhh. When are they getting rid of both of these clowns.
HHHW is the worst coach out there that is why those kids go PRIVATE , they will never win with that guy at the HELM
THE HILLS WEST COACH IS A COMPLETE DOUGHNUT HAS NO IDEA HOW TO COACH SO HE IS LOOKING FOR OUTSIDE HELP, HE DOES THE SAMETHING COACHING 2ND GRADERS .... IT IS A SHAME A HIGH SCHOOL COACH WOULD LET THAT HAPPEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
who does same thing coaching 2d graders?
Any scores from this weeks playoff games.
ESM Boys getting better and stronger as season progressed.
Lots of 1 goal losses, they are going to be the team to beat.
Keep an eye on that program it's about to kick in the front door.
The only ones forced to come back are the ones who couldn't play private. His own team hates him too. And bringing in a daddy coach, no matter what his quals are, is just asking for trouble. Also favoritism shown bc moms run the booster club. Hhhw is pay to play
ESM Boys getting better and stronger as season progressed.
Lots of 1 goal losses, they are going to be the team to beat.
Keep an eye on that program it's about to kick in the front door.
Should be a good first round matchup vs Miller Place. ESM did beat MP earlier in the year but MP did make the County finals two years in a row
Who is the most likely to get upset in Suffolk A? Best match ups? Teams to watch for?
just because your a senior doesnt guarantee you get to play over an underclassman go back to SA where you would have rode the bench or not made the team at all. find a hobby instead of trashing your own program because your kid was moved to midfield
just because your a senior doesnt guarantee you get to play over an underclassman go back to SA where you would have rode the bench or not made the team at all. find a hobby instead of trashing your own program because your kid was moved to midfield
Manhasset over GC in the 128th Woodstock something like 8-6. Both teams peaking so will be interesting. Good luck and may the winner take it all the way.
Does anyone know if the MIAA championship is on TV or live streaming tonight? If so please provide info if you can.
Who is the most likely to get upset in Suffolk A? Best match ups? Teams to watch for?
Section xi changed their web site!?!
someone in Suffolk is going to be upset today who will it be?
Good games wouldn't call these an upset, rather a pick'em
9 v 8 - Hills west vs Sachem north great match up
7 v 10 - West Islip vs Sachem East another good match up
I like Northport vs Ward Melville as one side of the bracket. Cant figure out the other side. Although, I think this is where there will be some notable teams missing.
THIS IS WHY YOU PLAY THE GAMES!!! YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH THE PAPER THIS IS PRINTED ON!!! WIN OR GO HOME!!! GOOD HEALTH AND GOOD PLAY TO ALL THOSE PARTICIPATING...
Win or lose; Home teams celebrate your community, Visiting team respect your hosts; both teams "Act like champions"!
smithtown west. Bay Shore has hewlette and ilchuk who may be the most lethal players in 10th grade. they will play great today as well as the goalie. both glynns will play exceptional. COME ON BAY SHORE !
just because your a senior doesnt guarantee you get to play over an underclassman go back to SA where you would have rode the bench or not made the team at all. find a hobby instead of trashing your own program because your kid was moved to midfield
Manhasset over GC in the 128th Woodstock something like 8-6. Both teams peaking so will be interesting. Good luck and may the winner take it all the way.
Just doesn't seem right to be playing in the semis rather than the finals. Should be a bigger prize for this grand ole matchup.
just because your a senior doesnt guarantee you get to play over an underclassman go back to SA where you would have rode the bench or not made the team at all. find a hobby instead of trashing your own program because your kid was moved to midfield
Nice try. Never went to st ants. Just calling it out and you don't like it ! You really think a dad should coach his sons in high school? Come on. It's pretty basic. No matter what the credentials are, everyone has daddy goggles
just because your a senior doesnt guarantee you get to play over an underclassman go back to SA where you would have rode the bench or not made the team at all. find a hobby instead of trashing your own program because your kid was moved to midfield
Manhasset over GC in the 128th Woodstock something like 8-6. Both teams peaking so will be interesting. Good luck and may the winner take it all the way.
Just doesn't seem right to be playing in the semis rather than the finals. Should be a bigger prize for this grand ole matchup.
Have seen Brook, Set, and GC play this year & have to give edge to Brook based on consistency all season and W vs Set. Not an easy task for Set to have to beat GC a 2nd time but heard their O has increased due to having 2 key lefty A getting run at both A and M. Should Set beat GC, then pressure on Brook to beat Set twice. Should be a good semi and final regardless.
smithtown west. Bay Shore has hewlette and ilchuk who may be the most lethal players in 10th grade. they will play great today as well as the goalie. both glynns will play exceptional. COME ON BAY SHORE !
And we also have a 4th grade who is no question the next Lyle Thompson - John Grant - Dave Pietramala. He accepted a full ride at CUSE to play both offense and defense.
just because your a senior doesnt guarantee you get to play over an underclassman go back to SA where you would have rode the bench or not made the team at all. find a hobby instead of trashing your own program because your kid was moved to midfield
Manhasset over GC in the 128th Woodstock something like 8-6. Both teams peaking so will be interesting. Good luck and may the winner take it all the way.
Just doesn't seem right to be playing in the semis rather than the finals. Should be a bigger prize for this grand ole matchup.
Have seen Brook, Set, and GC play this year & have to give edge to Brook based on consistency all season and W vs Set. Not an easy task for Set to have to beat GC a 2nd time but heard their O has increased due to having 2 key lefty A getting run at both A and M. Should Set beat GC, then pressure on Brook to beat Set twice. Should be a good semi and final regardless.
Will you stop with the shortened versions of these towns names!
It sounds so stupid. Enough. Type it out!
just because your a senior doesnt guarantee you get to play over an underclassman go back to SA where you would have rode the bench or not made the team at all. find a hobby instead of trashing your own program because your kid was moved to midfield
Manhasset over GC in the 128th Woodstock something like 8-6. Both teams peaking so will be interesting. Good luck and may the winner take it all the way.
Just doesn't seem right to be playing in the semis rather than the finals. Should be a bigger prize for this grand ole matchup.
Have seen Brook, Set, and GC play this year & have to give edge to Brook based on consistency all season and W vs Set. Not an easy task for Set to have to beat GC a 2nd time but heard their O has increased due to having 2 key lefty A getting run at both A and M. Should Set beat GC, then pressure on Brook to beat Set twice. Should be a good semi and final regardless.
Will you stop with the shortened versions of these towns names!
It sounds so stupid. Enough. Type it out!
So sorry my abbreviated challenged friend: Brook = Lynbrook, Set = Manhasset, and GC = Garden City. Hopefully you won't have any trouble with this one as it applies to you - DBag.
[quote=Anonymous]smithtown west. Bay Shore has hewlette and ilchuk who may be the most lethal players in 10th grade. they will play great today as well as the goalie. both glynns will play exceptional. COME ON BAY SHORE !
BAY SHORE? Not very good. Has not beaten a top team. This should be over very fast!!
Yea over early! Bay Shore up all game and blew it
SW won 6-5
[quote=Anonymous]smithtown west. Bay Shore has hewlette and ilchuk who may be the most lethal players in 10th grade. they will play great today as well as the goalie. both glynns will play exceptional. COME ON BAY SHORE !
BAY SHORE? Not very good. Has not beaten a top team. This should be over very fast!!
Not that fast! They led the whole game, but sadly lost. Great job
Yea over early! Bay Shore up all game and blew it
SW won 6-5
A win is a win!!! A lose is still a lose!
Yea over early! Bay Shore up all game and blew it
SW won 6-5
A win is a win!!! A lose is still a lose!
True, hope you are ready for next round!!
Cerniello is that you? So funny how the biggest complainers at the games still feel like they have so much more to say. No one is listening to you at the games and no one is listening here.
Yea over early! Bay Shore up all game and blew it
SW won 6-5
A win is a win!!! A lose is still a lose!
That was 2 JV squads out there. Lots of underclassman. We should be seeing them over the years.
Lynbrook D looked great last night. Wantagh has a weak attack so maybe was not a good test but I don't see them getting a good game until Garden City. Pending a fluke upset.
Mr Owl - that makes no sense as Manhasset dominated GC during the regular season - would be a bit more concerned about the SS game....
Cerniello is that you? So funny how the biggest complainers at the games still feel like they have so much more to say. No one is listening to you at the games and no one is listening here.
Cerniello is that you? So funny how the biggest complainers at the games still feel like they have so much more to say. No one is listening to you at the games and no one is listening here.
Nah. Nice trying to divert attention. I calked you out on a truth. Don't want to face facts. One coach is guilty of knowing nothing about coaching lax. And the other is a dad with daddy goggles
Mr Owl - that makes no sense as Manhasset dominated GC during the regular season - would be a bit more concerned about the SS game....
Dominated??
Lynbrook D looked great last night. Wantagh has a weak attack so maybe was not a good test but I don't see them getting a good game until Garden City. Pending a fluke upset.
That was not a test for Lynbrook. Wantagh is not a strong team. Has a weak defense but good goalie. Lynbrook has only played one good team this season and that is Manhasset. Both GC & Manh are having a down year. Lynbrook could be done earlie this season????
[quote=Anonymous]Cerniello is that you? So funny how the biggest complainers at the games still feel like they have so much more to say. No one is listening to you at the games and no one is listening here.
Cerniello is that you? So funny how the biggest complainers at the games still feel like they have so much more to say. No one is listening to you at the games and no one is listening here.
Nah. Nice trying to divert attention. I calked you out on a truth. Don't want to face facts. One coach is guilty of knowing nothing about coaching lax. And the other is a dad with daddy goggles [/quote
Is the Daddy goggles guy with the 8th grader the same guy who is manipulating the Brine tryout where his kid didn't tryout but was awarded a spot anyway. 91 coach ? If this is same guy it's not goggles it's binoculars and all he sees is his kids and what's good for them.
Hello Moderator last post very dangerous and close to character assassination.
Much hate in the heart of the poster! No I don't have a horse in this race but it's easy to see when a thread is way too over the top. Parents need to recognize it about the kids that play lacrosse not about the parents!
Cerniello is that you? So funny how the biggest complainers at the games still feel like they have so much more to say. No one is listening to you at the games and no one is listening here.
Cerniello is that you? So funny how the biggest complainers at the games still feel like they have so much more to say. No one is listening to you at the games and no one is listening here.
Nah. Nice trying to divert attention. I calked you out on a truth. Don't want to face facts. One coach is guilty of knowing nothing about coaching lax. And the other is a dad with daddy goggles
Yes! That's him. Forgot about that
Class B semis today.
Going with #5 seed Sayville in the 4/5 game and favorites Mount Sinai and Miller Place is the other two.
Class B semis today.
Going with #5 seed Sayville in the 4/5 game and favorites Mount Sinai and Miller Place is the other two.
going with ESM today but agree with other 2
Any predictions for Nassau Class A tomorrow, who will Massapequa be playing next week?
Lynbrook D looked great last night. Wantagh has a weak attack so maybe was not a good test but I don't see them getting a good game until Garden City. Pending a fluke upset.
"getting a good game until Garden City"? You mean Manhasset
Any predictions for Nassau Class A tomorrow, who will Massapequa be playing next week?
port
port has as much chance to win as I do at winning mega millions tonight
port has as much chance to win as I do at winning mega millions tonight
It's why they play the game. Yes, Syosset is the favorite but they still need to play.
That is the question isn't it? The last two years the loser of the Wood Stick Classic has won the playoff rematch. We will see today...
Lynbrook D looked great last night. Wantagh has a weak attack so maybe was not a good test but I don't see them getting a good game until Garden City. Pending a fluke upset.
"getting a good game until Garden City"? You mean Manhasset
what does it matter? the real state and national championship is torrow. Chammy vs Ants.
what does it matter? the real state and national championship is torrow. Chammy vs Ants.
Nobody cares except for two schools. Yawn. When you join the rest of us like they do in Jersey then we'll care.
what does it matter? the real state and national championship is torrow. Chammy vs Ants.
Haha, they were both beat by publics! What a farce!
what does it matter? the real state and national championship is torrow. Chammy vs Ants.
Nobody cares except for two schools. Yawn. When you join the rest of us like they do in Jersey then we'll care.
Exactly!
The real farce is that they spent 40k on a high school education thinking it was better than public school. Just because Chaminade buries them with homework does not make it superior. All an illusion. St Anthony's is worse than most publics and they are undisciplined on the field.
Take all of your so called champions of all of these divisions. Big school, small school, the haves and have nots, A,B,C,D, E,F and put them all in a playoff with Chaminade and St Anthony's and lets see what happens. But if one of those 2 should win then you will complain that they are prep school and have kids from all over. There is no answer because it will never happen because nobody wants one champion.
Very nice dad,you should be very proud of yourself for calling other peoples'children names..You must ne very proud of yourself.
What LI public beat St.Ant's Varsity this season?
Exactly! They will always find something to complain about!
please, st a didnt come to WM or suffolk...just keep going to play lesser ct schools. At least chammy gave it a shot.
Set sports rolls GC.
GC down a bit last year and this talent wise
Unfamiliar territory
ok,Darien, New Caanen and Wilton are lesser schools,Thats laughable.
And they scrimmaged Massapequa and Syosset...
You can also say that WM,didnt come down the street to play St.Ants either.
Its a 2 way street.
And St Ants also beat GC early in the season in a scrimmage as well...I know its a Nassau team.
Absolutely the three ct schools you mentioned cannot play with wm, sme, northport...suffolk a is best in the country and you all know it...
check msg varsity, perhaps the independant judge of lax play can help you see the light
Ok quot, you had a pretty solid year. Really had to get by SMW though to have a really good year.
So we have Northport v WM and SME v SMW
next wednesday we have???
WM/Northport v SME
Sorry west, you have no shot this year.
Ok quot, you had a pretty solid year. Really had to get by SMW though to have a really good year.
So we have Northport v WM and SME v SMW
next wednesday we have???
WM/Northport v SME
Sorry west, you have no shot this year.
Why was quot f/o not playing today? cost them the game!
Take all of your so called champions of all of these divisions. Big school, small school, the haves and have nots, A,B,C,D, E,F and put them all in a playoff with Chaminade and St Anthony's and lets see what happens. But if one of those 2 should win then you will complain that they are prep school and have kids from all over. There is no answer because it will never happen because nobody wants one champion.
Everybody wants one champion, the current system is ridiculous. Everybody except oz behind the curtain.
Take all of your so called champions of all of these divisions. Big school, small school, the haves and have nots, A,B,C,D, E,F and put them all in a playoff with Chaminade and St Anthony's and lets see what happens. But if one of those 2 should win then you will complain that they are prep school and have kids from all over. There is no answer because it will never happen because nobody wants one champion.
Everybody wants one champion, the current system is ridiculous. Everybody except oz behind the curtain.
Agree! And it would certainly not be a Catholic! That's why we will never see it. They can barely stand it when they loose a non-leauge
Anybody know Manhasset - GC outcome/score?
Ok quot, you had a pretty solid year. Really had to get by SMW though to have a really good year.
So we have Northport v WM and SME v SMW
next wednesday we have???
WM/Northport v SME
Sorry west, you have no shot this year.
Why was quot f/o not playing today? cost them the game!
Ok quot, you had a pretty solid year. Really had to get by SMW though to have a really good year.
So we have Northport v WM and SME v SMW
next wednesday we have???
WM/Northport v SME
Sorry west, you have no shot this year.
Why was quot f/o not playing today? cost them the game!
Ok quot, you had a pretty solid year. Really had to get by SMW though to have a really good year.
So we have Northport v WM and SME v SMW
next wednesday we have???
WM/Northport v SME
Sorry west, you have no shot this year.
Why was quot f/o not playing today? cost them the game!
Shoulder injury. Go up and shake his hand, pushed thru to the end of the game .Yes this is a Connetquot Dad
Manhasset beats GC in overtime 8 to 7. [lacrosse] of a game played by both teams.
Anybody know Manhasset - GC outcome/score?
manhasset 8-7 over gc in it
2 yrs without making the B finals. Yup this GC core has been less than we are used to.
Absolutely the three ct schools you mentioned cannot play with wm, sme, northport...suffolk a is best in the country and you all know it...
check msg varsity, perhaps the independant judge of lax play can help you see the light
Suffolk A is a joke of a league as are all the leagues on Long Island.
There are two, maybe three really good teams in each league during any given year but thats about it.
WM just beat the # 5 seed 17 - 1. (WM goalie scored on himself)
WM is very good but the league is a joke.
How many different programs in Suffolk A have won a county championship over the past 40 years? My guess is 5. WM and WI probably have won 35 of them. Please stop with the toughest league BS.
WM will spank NP.
The real farce is that they spent 40k on a high school education thinking it was better than public school. Just because Chaminade buries them with homework does not make it superior. All an illusion. St Anthony's is worse than most publics and they are undisciplined xxxx xxxx on the field.
Spending $40k to avoid interaction with the likes of you and your offspring = PRICELESS
Quot had squat when it counted
what does it matter? the real state and national championship is torrow. Chammy vs Ants.
Nobody cares except for two schools. Yawn. When you join the rest of us like they do in Jersey then we'll care.
Exactly!
This 2 team league of its own is the epitome of absurdity. How long has this been in place? You mean to tell me that either team could go 0-15 and still play for a "championship"? C'mon, that doesn't even pass the laugh test. What a joke.
Absolutely the three ct schools you mentioned cannot play with wm, sme, northport...suffolk a is best in the country and you all know it...
check msg varsity, perhaps the independant judge of lax play can help you see the light
Suffolk A is a joke of a league as are all the leagues on Long Island.
There are two, maybe three really good teams in each league during any given year but thats about it.
WM just beat the # 5 seed 17 - 1. (WM goalie scored on himself)
WM is very good but the league is a joke.
How many different programs in Suffolk A have won a county championship over the past 40 years? My guess is 5. WM and WI probably have won 35 of them. Please stop with the toughest league BS.
WM will spank NP.
You might be right about WM/NP, but to call Suffolk A a joke is just stupid. NP, Quot, WI, WM, SME, SMW...Even HHE, WHitman, Sachem North and East can all play at a very high level.
We all know the better programs, but Suffolk A is the nations toughest public school division followed by MD privates, Philly privates and DC privates.
St A and chammy will always be good squads, but both are not having great years and the competition they played bears that out...
I don't know about your statement but we had alot of college coaches at our Suffolk A league playoffs yesterday. How many were at yours. I guess the lax D1 coaches don't feel that way, LOL.
The real farce is that they spent 40k on a high school education thinking it was better than public school. Just because Chaminade buries them with homework does not make it superior. All an illusion. St Anthony's is worse than most publics and they are undisciplined xxxx xxxx on the field.
Spending $40k to avoid interaction with the likes of you and your offspring = PRICELESS
Exactly!
Absolutely the three ct schools you mentioned cannot play with wm, sme, northport...suffolk a is best in the country and you all know it...
check msg varsity, perhaps the independant judge of lax play can help you see the light
Suffolk A is a joke of a league as are all the leagues on Long Island.
There are two, maybe three really good teams in each league during any given year but thats about it.
WM just beat the # 5 seed 17 - 1. (WM goalie scored on himself)
WM is very good but the league is a joke.
How many different programs in Suffolk A have won a county championship over the past 40 years? My guess is 5. WM and WI probably have won 35 of them. Please stop with the toughest league BS.
WM will spank NP.
In reflection of the league 1&2 I think many took the new breakout with a grain of salt. Then as some games were played you saw there were 3 tiers within each league. (The Good the Bad and the tweeners). Then the playoffs started and matched many L1 teams against L2 teams. Now headed into the semis you have 2 league 1 teams and 2 league 2 teams. Both leagues will be represented in the Suffolk Championships. Not to bad!
This year you saw teams within both leagues with very young players in impact spots. You saw as a whole the quality of the 2017 students athletes which means there is a few good years ahead of us. You also saw a few freshman go at lik last nights game and make a huge impact for their teams the whole season. Last week you even had an 8th grader show he belonged. Along with its constant seniors and steady jr's (who themselves had a few varsity years of experience); it seems Suffolk A always seems to find itself rising to the top, always back filling for players and teams regardless of who is lost to graduation.
Same can be said for Nassau and Catholics, we are all very lucky to have such a rich wide span of talent on LI.
Any predictions for Syo-PW tonight?
Any predictions for Syo-PW tonight?
Syo running away. Bench will be emptied for the 2nd half
Why did you allow a post that called the St. Anthony's team xxxx xxxx? Please read a little more carefully and exercise better discretion before giving the posts your blessing! The name calling is way out of hand. I was under the impression that you set up this site to be informational.
People are entitled to their opinions but I don't think name calling needs to be part of it.
Please remove it from the site; it would be the right thing to do.
Syosset will win easily, final margin will be 6-8 only because of some late PW goals. PW had a nice season but it ends tonight. Syo season ends next week.
Why did you allow a post that called the St. Anthony's team xxxx xxxx? Please read a little more carefully and exercise better discretion before giving the posts your blessing! The name calling is way out of hand. I was under the impression that you set up this site to be informational.
People are entitled to their opinions but I don't think name calling needs to be part of it.
Please remove it from the site; it would be the right thing to do.
Agreed!!!!
what does it matter? the real state and national championship is torrow. Chammy vs Ants.
Nobody cares except for two schools. Yawn. When you join the rest of us like they do in Jersey then we'll care.
Exactly!
This 2 team league of its own is the epitome of absurdity. How long has this been in place? You mean to tell me that either team could go 0-15 and still play for a "championship"? C'mon, that doesn't even pass the laugh test. What a joke.
This thing should be broken up with Chaminade should be in Nassau A and St. Anthonys in Suffolk A. Neither would make it out of the county this year.
My take on the Manhasset vs GC game. Game was evenly matched and could have gone either way. GC's only fault was their clearing game. They failed on many of their attempts. Manhasset won the face off match with #32. Who in my opinion was the best player on the field. He only had a goal and assist but GC had to be locked on him most of the game and that freed up other players. Could have been different if GC's fogo was healthy. Was limping around and battled his tail off. The fact that Manhasset won most of faceoffs and the score was not more lopsided is a credit to GC's defense. Freshman goalie for GC also played well. # 11 for Manhasset was also excellent off ball and created the winning goal with some nifty foot work behind the net in OT tying up his defensemen in the net and dishing the ball for the winning goal. Both teams played very well. Congrats to Manhasset and good luck vs the winner of Lynbrook and South Side.
Syosset will win easily, final margin will be 6-8 only because of some late PW goals. PW had a nice season but it ends tonight. Syo season ends next week.
Didn't Syosset only win by 1 last time?
The real farce is that they spent 40k on a high school education thinking it was better than public school. Just because Chaminade buries them with homework does not make it superior. All an illusion. St Anthony's is worse than most publics and they are undisciplined xxxx xxxx on the field.
Spending $40k to avoid interaction with the likes of you and your offspring = PRICELESS
Exactly!
Sounds like your kid didn't get in to these two catholic schools?
You should be thanking the catholics for taking 80-100 starting varsity players out of the public system. Your baggy pants wearing son would be riding the bench if these players stayed at their public school.
You should be thanking the catholics for taking 80-100 starting varsity players out of the public system. Your baggy pants wearing son would be riding the bench if these players stayed at their public school.
By baggy pants son smoked your son and his mediocre overrated team. FACT! Funny man!
you really think that ? not the case in GC. couple of kids would make varsity (a couple would star) but the others are average at best. be honest. no one bashing catholic teams, so don't make such an fair assumption.
80 to 100...you are delusional. Perhaps if you are lucky 10 to 20 and that is far from a guarantee. You really think you are that much better than the publics, you are sorely mistaken. Just ask Chaminade..
Absolutely the three ct schools you mentioned cannot play with wm, sme, northport...suffolk a is best in the country and you all know it...
check msg varsity, perhaps the independant judge of lax play can help you see the light
Suffolk A is a joke of a league as are all the leagues on Long Island.
There are two, maybe three really good teams in each league during any given year but thats about it.
WM just beat the # 5 seed 17 - 1. (WM goalie scored on himself)
WM is very good but the league is a joke.
How many different programs in Suffolk A have won a county championship over the past 40 years? My guess is 5. WM and WI probably have won 35 of them. Please stop with the toughest league BS.
WM will spank NP.
In reflection of the league 1&2 I think many took the new breakout with a grain of salt. Then as some games were played you saw there were 3 tiers within each league. (The Good the Bad and the tweeners). Then the playoffs started and matched many L1 teams against L2 teams. Now headed into the semis you have 2 league 1 teams and 2 league 2 teams. Both leagues will be represented in the Suffolk Championships. Not to bad!
This year you saw teams within both leagues with very young players in impact spots. You saw as a whole the quality of the 2017 students athletes which means there is a few good years ahead of us. You also saw a few freshman go at lik last nights game and make a huge impact for their teams the whole season. Last week you even had an 8th grader show he belonged. Along with its constant seniors and steady jr's (who themselves had a few varsity years of experience); it seems Suffolk A always seems to find itself rising to the top, always back filling for players and teams regardless of who is lost to graduation.
Same can be said for Nassau and Catholics, we are all very lucky to have such a rich wide span of talent on LI.
Some great players have come out of the league in recent years. West Islip, Connetquot and Smithtown West have produced some great college players recently and there have been some very good teams but the league as a whole is weak.
Most years there are between one and three teams that could win a championship thats it. Most of the teams are not very good.
Great players can come from any program and the league has produced a bunch but that does not make it a competitive league.
Unfortunately, High School Lacrosse is not competitive. That is not to say that there are no strong teams, it’s just that the best teams on the Island all play in different leagues.
Never realized just how inferior some of the public school parents feel.
Why all the animosity directed at families that choose to send their kid to a private school?
Why the need to gloat anytime a public school wins a game against a private school?
Why the concern about where and how other people choose to spend their money?
You do realize that when it comes to lacrosse, the “Public Schools” are not truly public. Many of the families move to towns like Garden City, Manhasset, Ward Melville etc… with lacrosse on the brain. Many former lacrosse players will not move to a town that has a weak lacrosse program.
Not sure what drives the haters. Not sure why they are so bitter. Perhaps they are jealous. Who knows?
People move to Manhasset and Garden City because they make a whole lot of money not because of lacrosse. When you thought you heard it all. Plus our season begins now and your season ends so enjoy your trophy and your Saint Anthonys education cause both aint worth much. Now you Chaminade guys got it going on great education and great athletic programs personally know many grads that print their own money.
Why every time we play a kid in my high school cyo program, you can see the Chaminade coming a mile away, he has his Chaminade hat, Chaminade Jacket on, then when he plays he has his Chaminade tee shirt on his Chaminade shorts on his Chaminade socks on , and then it's not hard to pick out his parents, they have all the athe Chaminade gear on , then let's not talk about the Car with all Chaminade stickers on it. Maybe when you stop thinking your only school in town people would stop hating you.
you really think that ? not the case in GC. couple of kids would make varsity (a couple would star) but the others are average at best. be honest. no one bashing catholic teams, so don't make such an fair assumption.
You are high! Some of the very best freshmen talent is playing for Chaminade this year. Significant defection of top talent....if you think otherwise you are either not paying attention or have an agenda that probably involves your kid playing on the GC team.
Why every time we play a kid in my high school cyo program, you can see the Chaminade coming a mile away, he has his Chaminade hat, Chaminade Jacket on, then when he plays he has his Chaminade tee shirt on his Chaminade shorts on his Chaminade socks on , and then it's not hard to pick out his parents, they have all the athe Chaminade gear on , then let's not talk about the Car with all Chaminade stickers on it. Maybe when you stop thinking your only school in town people would stop hating you.
Jealous much?
Why every time we play a kid in my high school cyo program, you can see the Chaminade coming a mile away, he has his Chaminade hat, Chaminade Jacket on, then when he plays he has his Chaminade tee shirt on his Chaminade shorts on his Chaminade socks on , and then it's not hard to pick out his parents, they have all the athe Chaminade gear on , then let's not talk about the Car with all Chaminade stickers on it. Maybe when you stop thinking your only school in town people would stop hating you.
if you were proud of the school system that you are in, you too would be proud to display the school colors. I see this with many Manhasset, Massapequa, GC, Syosset and even Wantagh players and parents. has nothing to do with showing off but the fact that a person can be proud and not afraid to show it by wearing the school swag.
Have you seen the 91 or Express players and parents.
Hey anyone catch Massapequa last night? Defending state champs...
Why did you allow a post that called the St. Anthony's team xxxx xxxx? Please read a little more carefully and exercise better discretion before giving the posts your blessing! The name calling is way out of hand. I was under the impression that you set up this site to be informational.
People are entitled to their opinions but I don't think name calling needs to be part of it.
Please remove it from the site; it would be the right thing to do.
Agreed!!!!
I would not be so sure, the history between the teams over the past few years shows that PW plays at a higher level against SYO. SYO only one by 1 in the last meeting. This, in my opinion, will go down to the last second, possibly double OT.
you really think that ? not the case in GC. couple of kids would make varsity (a couple would star) but the others are average at best. be honest. no one bashing catholic teams, so don't make such an fair assumption.
You are high! Some of the very best freshmen talent is playing for Chaminade this year. Significant defection of top talent....if you think otherwise you are either not paying attention or have an agenda that probably involves your kid playing on the GC team.
...Oh and I don't have a freshman on the Chaminade team either. Note also Chaminade varsity beat Manhasset handily and Manhasset beat GC. There is a reason GC never wants to play Chaminade and it has something to do with the long list of GC kids who have left to star at Chaminade. They don't want to worsen that problem by playing Chaminade and losing badly. So don't come on here talking about the GC kids who play for Chaminade as being ones who would be lucky to make varsity in GC. That is total BS.....
you really think that ? not the case in GC. couple of kids would make varsity (a couple would star) but the others are average at best. be honest. no one bashing catholic teams, so don't make such an fair assumption.
You are high! Some of the very best freshmen talent is playing for Chaminade this year. Significant defection of top talent....if you think otherwise you are either not paying attention or have an agenda that probably involves your kid playing on the GC team.
...Oh and I don't have a freshman on the Chaminade team either. Note also Chaminade varsity beat Manhasset handily and Manhasset beat GC. There is a reason GC never wants to play Chaminade and it has something to do with the long list of GC kids who have left to star at Chaminade. They don't want to worsen that problem by playing Chaminade and losing badly. So don't come on here talking about the GC kids who play for Chaminade as being ones who would be lucky to make varsity in GC. That is total BS.....
against manhasset it was a 2 goal game until the last few mins when Chaminade scored 2 more to make it a 4 goal game, think it was tied at halftime. Wouldn't say that they beat them "handidly" - school has 1,600 boys and is challenged by much smaller schools with a quarter of the kids to choose from.
The High School Lacrosse teams that are consistent and competitive are the ones with good youth programs in place. Despite some club teams attempting to change the face of youth lacrosse the towns with solid youth programs have competitive High school teams.
Why every time we play a kid in my high school cyo program, you can see the Chaminade coming a mile away, he has his Chaminade hat, Chaminade Jacket on, then when he plays he has his Chaminade tee shirt on his Chaminade shorts on his Chaminade socks on , and then it's not hard to pick out his parents, they have all the athe Chaminade gear on , then let's not talk about the Car with all Chaminade stickers on it. Maybe when you stop thinking your only school in town people would stop hating you.
if you were proud of the school system that you are in, you too would be proud to display the school colors. I see this with many Manhasset, Massapequa, GC, Syosset and even Wantagh players and parents. has nothing to do with showing off but the fact that a person can be proud and not afraid to show it by wearing the school swag.
Have you seen the 91 or Express players and parents.
There's town pride and then there's the Chaminade cult. The big red dadyjackets are too funny.
SYO beats PW easily 14-7. Good game boys!
Why every time we play a kid in my high school cyo program, you can see the Chaminade coming a mile away, he has his Chaminade hat, Chaminade Jacket on, then when he plays he has his Chaminade tee shirt on his Chaminade shorts on his Chaminade socks on , and then it's not hard to pick out his parents, they have all the athe Chaminade gear on , then let's not talk about the Car with all Chaminade stickers on it. Maybe when you stop thinking your only school in town people would stop hating you.
if you were proud of the school system that you are in, you too would be proud to display the school colors. I see this with many Manhasset, Massapequa, GC, Syosset and even Wantagh players and parents. has nothing to do with showing off but the fact that a person can be proud and not afraid to show it by wearing the school swag.
Have you seen the 91 or Express players and parents.
There's town pride and then there's the Chaminade cult. The big red dadyjackets are too funny.
Remember while celebrating your "championship "
You lost to LI publics, and are full of smoke and mirrors!
no double over time, syosset easy...
Why every time we play a kid in my high school cyo program, you can see the Chaminade coming a mile away, he has his Chaminade hat, Chaminade Jacket on, then when he plays he has his Chaminade tee shirt on his Chaminade shorts on his Chaminade socks on , and then it's not hard to pick out his parents, they have all the athe Chaminade gear on , then let's not talk about the Car with all Chaminade stickers on it. Maybe when you stop thinking your only school in town people would stop hating you.
if you were proud of the school system that you are in, you too would be proud to display the school colors. I see this with many Manhasset, Massapequa, GC, Syosset and even Wantagh players and parents. has nothing to do with showing off but the fact that a person can be proud and not afraid to show it by wearing the school swag.
Have you seen the 91 or Express players and parents.
There's town pride and then there's the Chaminade cult. The big red dadyjackets are too funny.
Some daddy's actually went to Chaminade....Crimson.& Gold baby!
If port did better on man up you would have lost
If port did better on man up you would have lost
But they didn't...
If port did better on man up you would have lost
I doubt it considering the game wasn't even close
Funny comments about the gear. We were at a 7 on 7 football tournament and we spotted dads with St. A's gear on. This was 3 states away. I really don't get why. I can understand the kids themselves but the dads?
You won the game- but you SYO people should be ashamed of your elementary school aged fans that were at the game. A total disgrace and embarrassment. Disgusting. Shouting obscenities at PW fans while buying tickets. Hanging out like a bunch of hoods in the curve of the bleachers just looking for trouble. Cursing and calling 6th grade girls sexually explicit names- and any other PW kids that walked around to buy food- and let's not forget running over to shout obscenities at the Vikings at the end of the game when they exited the field. What a great show of tasteless unsportsmanlike conduct before, during and after the game. Good going SYO. Hope you are proud of your kids. You're raising a [lacrosse] of a bunch of upstanding young people
This is the greatest comment of all time! LMAO
Watched the SYO/Port game on MSG, have to say Port is a much more classy team, some of the antics of a few SYO players was a bit unsportsmanlike, funny how the cameras catch everything one wouldn't see at a game.won't call anyone out, but living up to the rep of a typical Lax d….e, (and that does not spell dude.)
No worries Port, Pequa will hand it to them in the Finals.
Witnessed those kids myself. They cursed at me and my son and his friend on the way back from the concession. They weren't even there to watch the game. Just sitting and waiting to heckle port fans of all ages. Very disturbing
This is the greatest comment of all time! LMAO
What was the Lynbrook/South Side score?
Right the ship? 15-1 this season lost one game by 1 goal
You won the game- but you SYO people should be ashamed of your elementary school aged fans that were at the game. A total disgrace and embarrassment. Disgusting. Shouting obscenities at PW fans while buying tickets. Hanging out like a bunch of hoods in the curve of the bleachers just looking for trouble. Cursing and calling 6th grade girls sexually explicit names- and any other PW kids that walked around to buy food- and let's not forget running over to shout obscenities at the Vikings at the end of the game when they exited the field. What a great show of tasteless unsportsmanlike conduct before, during and after the game. Good going SYO. Hope you are proud of your kids. You're raising a [lacrosse] of a bunch of upstanding young people
goes both ways, unfortunately - 5th grade sister of a Syosset player was yelled at by PW mother and father because she was wearing her brothers jersey - no class is no class regardless of what color you wear
whether it is the school districts - Section 8 or Hofstra they have to do a better job keeping people in line at these games - fans and family yelling at opposing teams walking off the field to their bus - no school supervisors around to witness it, they should have to keep the yellow jackets on and "supervise" until the buses have left the school. It is a problem waiting to happen.
I was talking about the SYO players, and only a handful. On the video stream during play.
NOT showing your best side to the viewing public.
Good lax team, but that is Syosset town/peoplefor you...
Good lax team, but that is Syosset town/peoplefor you...
Eh. Syosset hasn't won anything yet. Lets see them get off the Island. Then we'll be impressed.
How's that prediction now for you? Massapequa will take care of the Syosset run. "If you aint first you're last"
You won the game- but you SYO people should be ashamed of your elementary school aged fans that were at the game. A total disgrace and embarrassment. Disgusting. Shouting obscenities at PW fans while buying tickets. Hanging out like a bunch of hoods in the curve of the bleachers just looking for trouble. Cursing and calling 6th grade girls sexually explicit names- and any other PW kids that walked around to buy food- and let's not forget running over to shout obscenities at the Vikings at the end of the game when they exited the field. What a great show of tasteless unsportsmanlike conduct before, during and after the game. Good going SYO. Hope you are proud of your kids. You're raising a [lacrosse] of a bunch of upstanding young people
goes both ways, unfortunately - 5th grade sister of a Syosset player was yelled at by PW mother and father because she was wearing her brothers jersey - no class is no class regardless of what color you wear
I am talking about
ongoing foul language and a general air that was shown by a rowdy group of young kids which was
ongoing throughout the entire game - Far from a single comment made and I am sure those parents did not curse at the "little girl". Our young Port kids stayed on their own side the entire game and cheered for their team and actually watched the game. Concession should be open on both sides of the bleachers in the future, although if people would just watch their kids and teach them some manners and morals, this wouldn't have to be of concern.
Unfortunately, You did not get the full Syosset experience:
It is worse trying to coach young kids against a group like that on the field. That's when the parents get into the act.
priceless!
Syosset players are a dirty bunch of players. they will try to hurt you when ref is not looking.
Low class team- period
That comes from head coaching- he argues every call and verbally abuses refs
Watched the SYO/Port game on MSG, have to say Port is a much more classy team, some of the antics of a few SYO players was a bit unsportsmanlike, funny how the cameras catch everything one wouldn't see at a game.won't call anyone out, but living up to the rep of a typical Lax d….e, (and that does not spell dude.)
No worries Port, Pequa will hand it to them in the Finals.
Doesn't surprise me, this shady stuff has been going on with their youth program for years.
You won the game- but you SYO people should be ashamed of your elementary school aged fans that were at the game. A total disgrace and embarrassment. Disgusting. Shouting obscenities at PW fans while buying tickets. Hanging out like a bunch of hoods in the curve of the bleachers just looking for trouble. Cursing and calling 6th grade girls sexually explicit names- and any other PW kids that walked around to buy food- and let's not forget running over to shout obscenities at the Vikings at the end of the game when they exited the field. What a great show of tasteless unsportsmanlike conduct before, during and after the game. Good going SYO. Hope you are proud of your kids. You're raising a [lacrosse] of a bunch of upstanding young people
goes both ways, unfortunately - 5th grade sister of a Syosset player was yelled at by PW mother and father because she was wearing her brothers jersey - no class is no class regardless of what color you wear
So full of it. Just trying to deflect. Your coaches all 11 of them were a disgrace. The play of your players was disgusting. The actions of your fans were ridiculous to say the least. A player jumping out of the bus to get in the face of a girl. Appple doesn't fall far from the treeon that one.The cheap shots with intent to injure on the field were rediculous. Relish the win but as individuals you handled yourselves like trash.You may havr won the game but the way your program carried itself during and afterwards truly defined who and what your about.
Blah Blah Blah - both sides were misbehaved - both teams were misbehaved and both coaching staffs were out of control - PW coaches did a great job of controlling their team at the end when the game was determined but the PW parents were pretty bad, at least the Syo parents had an excuse, they were tailgating since 9am so they were probably pretty lit by game time
Bob Hartranft
Hartranft will be inducted as a truly great coach. Still active, he recently completed his 48th season as head coach at Farmingdale (N.Y.) High School. Through the 2015 season, Hartranft has 694 wins, ranking third all-time among boys’ high school coaches. Hartranft led Farmingdale to the New [lacrosse] state championship in 2011, and also finished as state runner-up in 1978 and 2003. His teams have captured 13 Nassau County championships and made 37 consecutive playoff appearances. He has been selected as the conference coach of the year 10 times, and tabbed as the Nassau County coach of the year twice. In addition, Hartranft served as head coach of the U.S. Men’s Under-19 National Team in 1992 and led Team USA to the world championship. He was named winner of the US Lacrosse Gerry Carroll Award as the national coach of the year in 2013.
Congrats coach National Lacrosse HOF!
Live in the next town over from Syosset...residents are painful...and of the poor souls that work in the service industry within the town borders... I echo someones sentiments regarding the syosset youth program as well and the coaches/children/parents behavior in that circle as well. Go Pequa!
Live in the next town over from Syosset...residents are painful...and of the poor souls that work in the service industry within the town borders... I echo someones sentiments regarding the syosset youth program as well and the coaches/children/parents behavior in that circle as well. Go Pequa!
And the posts have begun .... Just change the towns name ... Every time a big game that the other team thought was going to be competitive is won all the haters come on and start ripping everyone apart , the coaches , parents, players, siblings, the town in general. Doesn't matter if their coaches, parents , players, siblings were acting the same way in the heat of the game they still are reeling from the loss and have to come on and spew hate and look for someone to take it out on . Funny thing is that PW's head coach is one of the exact people they are talking about , a Syosset person with kids in the stands and a player on the varsity sideline , he's a Syosset HS teacher and he's someone who coaches our youth lacrosse players and who previously coached our varsity team. If you're insulting syo, you're insulting him too, Just like any intense playoff game things got heated on both sides with no team or spectators being innocent . Syosset players got spit on and cursed at during halftime as they walked past PW youth in the bleachers to get to the sideline so it goes both ways with the ongoing stories . From now on after a heated playoff game Back of the Cage should just start a new thread where people can just randomly get all their hate and frustration out on losing by ripping apart the winning team/town like the kids do on twitter . It's so ridiculous and immature . Look in the mirror and make sure you're perfect before you rip everyone else apart.
You won the game- but you SYO people should be ashamed of your elementary school aged fans that were at the game. A total disgrace and embarrassment. Disgusting. Shouting obscenities at PW fans while buying tickets. Hanging out like a bunch of hoods in the curve of the bleachers just looking for trouble. Cursing and calling 6th grade girls sexually explicit names- and any other PW kids that walked around to buy food- and let's not forget running over to shout obscenities at the Vikings at the end of the game when they exited the field. What a great show of tasteless unsportsmanlike conduct before, during and after the game. Good going SYO. Hope you are proud of your kids. You're raising a [lacrosse] of a bunch of upstanding young people
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goes both ways, unfortunately - 5th grade sister of a Syosset player was yelled at by PW mother and father because she was wearing her brothers jersey - no class is no class regardless of what color you wear
So full of it. Just trying to deflect. Your coaches all 11 of them were a disgrace. The play of your players was disgusting. The actions of your fans were ridiculous to say the least. A player jumping out of the bus to get in the face of a girl. Appple doesn't fall far from the treeon that one.The cheap shots with intent to injure on the field were rediculous. Relish the win but as individuals you handled yourselves like trash.You may havr won the game but the way your program carried itself during and afterwards truly defined who and what your about.
Syosset tough guys ? Since when ? When time to rumble they jump in their BMWs and call their lawyers. Always were soft.
Bob Hartranft
Hartranft will be inducted as a truly great coach. Still active, he recently completed his 48th season as head coach at Farmingdale (N.Y.) High School. Through the 2015 season, Hartranft has 694 wins, ranking third all-time among boys’ high school coaches. Hartranft led Farmingdale to the New [lacrosse] state championship in 2011, and also finished as state runner-up in 1978 and 2003. His teams have captured 13 Nassau County championships and made 37 consecutive playoff appearances. He has been selected as the conference coach of the year 10 times, and tabbed as the Nassau County coach of the year twice. In addition, Hartranft served as head coach of the U.S. Men’s Under-19 National Team in 1992 and led Team USA to the world championship. He was named winner of the US Lacrosse Gerry Carroll Award as the national coach of the year in 2013.
Congrats coach National Lacrosse HOF!
Now if he would just retire to the program can regain it's past glory.
You won the game- but you SYO people should be ashamed of your elementary school aged fans that were at the game. A total disgrace and embarrassment. Disgusting. Shouting obscenities at PW fans while buying tickets. Hanging out like a bunch of hoods in the curve of the bleachers just looking for trouble. Cursing and calling 6th grade girls sexually explicit names- and any other PW kids that walked around to buy food- and let's not forget running over to shout obscenities at the Vikings at the end of the game when they exited the field. What a great show of tasteless unsportsmanlike conduct before, during and after the game. Good going SYO. Hope you are proud of your kids. You're raising a [lacrosse] of a bunch of upstanding young people
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goes both ways, unfortunately - 5th grade sister of a Syosset player was yelled at by PW mother and father because she was wearing her brothers jersey - no class is no class regardless of what color you wear
So full of it. Just trying to deflect. Your coaches all 11 of them were a disgrace. The play of your players was disgusting. The actions of your fans were ridiculous to say the least. A player jumping out of the bus to get in the face of a girl. Appple doesn't fall far from the treeon that one.The cheap shots with intent to injure on the field were rediculous. Relish the win but as individuals you handled yourselves like trash.You may havr won the game but the way your program carried itself during and afterwards truly defined who and what your about.
Syosset tough guys ? Since when ? When time to rumble they jump in their BMWs and call their lawyers. Always were soft.
From the tough guy who is hiding behind an anonymous name and calling out other people as soft. Just too funny. did not realize PW was such a tough neighborhood. Must be all the gang-wars their that made mr. anonymous here so tough.. HAHA, love these ridiculous posts.
Live in the next town over from Syosset...residents are painful...and of the poor souls that work in the service industry within the town borders... I echo someones sentiments regarding the syosset youth program as well and the coaches/children/parents behavior in that circle as well. Go Pequa!
I totally agree with your sentiment about the Syosset people, but, oh wait, did you hear that bell? that means a car just pulled up, so stop typing go to pump 3, fill er up, check the oil and clean the Syo lax sticker on the back of the Range Rover......go comets
You won the game- but you SYO people should be ashamed of your elementary school aged fans that were at the game. A total disgrace and embarrassment. Disgusting. Shouting obscenities at PW fans while buying tickets. Hanging out like a bunch of hoods in the curve of the bleachers just looking for trouble. Cursing and calling 6th grade girls sexually explicit names- and any other PW kids that walked around to buy food- and let's not forget running over to shout obscenities at the Vikings at the end of the game when they exited the field. What a great show of tasteless unsportsmanlike conduct before, during and after the game. Good going SYO. Hope you are proud of your kids. You're raising a [lacrosse] of a bunch of upstanding young people
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goes both ways, unfortunately - 5th grade sister of a Syosset player was yelled at by PW mother and father because she was wearing her brothers jersey - no class is no class regardless of what color you wear
So full of it. Just trying to deflect. Your coaches all 11 of them were a disgrace. The play of your players was disgusting. The actions of your fans were ridiculous to say the least. A player jumping out of the bus to get in the face of a girl. Appple doesn't fall far from the treeon that one.The cheap shots with intent to injure on the field were rediculous. Relish the win but as individuals you handled yourselves like trash.You may havr won the game but the way your program carried itself during and afterwards truly defined who and what your about.
Syosset tough guys ? Since when ? When time to rumble they jump in their BMWs and call their lawyers. Always were soft.
Tough and cheap shots are two different things. A clean body check is tough. Cross check to the neck from behind is a different story. That's what Syosset was doing. Then they got in the BMW and went home.
Live in the next town over from Syosset...residents are painful...and of the poor souls that work in the service industry within the town borders... I echo someones sentiments regarding the syosset youth program as well and the coaches/children/parents behavior in that circle as well. Go Pequa!
And the posts have begun .... Just change the towns name ... Every time a big game that the other team thought was going to be competitive is won all the haters come on and start ripping everyone apart , the coaches , parents, players, siblings, the town in general. Doesn't matter if their coaches, parents , players, siblings were acting the same way in the heat of the game they still are reeling from the loss and have to come on and spew hate and look for someone to take it out on . Funny thing is that PW's head coach is one of the exact people they are talking about , a Syosset person with kids in the stands and a player on the varsity sideline , he's a Syosset HS teacher and he's someone who coaches our youth lacrosse players and who previously coached our varsity team. If you're insulting syo, you're insulting him too, Just like any intense playoff game things got heated on both sides with no team or spectators being innocent . Syosset players got spit on and cursed at during halftime as they walked past PW youth in the bleachers to get to the sideline so it goes both ways with the ongoing stories . From now on after a heated playoff game Back of the Cage should just start a new thread where people can just randomly get all their hate and frustration out on losing by ripping apart the winning team/town like the kids do on twitter . It's so ridiculous and immature . Look in the mirror and make sure you're perfect before you rip everyone else apart.
Not exactly, do not see pages of posts between GC and Set parents and players...
Tough and cheap shots are two different things. A clean body check is tough. Cross check to the neck from behind is a different story. That's what Syosset was doing. Then they got in the BMW and went home.
In case you were wondering Dr. Obvious, a cross check from behind in the neck is a penalty, you go to the box for one minute and feel great shame and then they set you free. The Penalty was called and PW didn't make Syosset pay for their transgression by scoring on the man advantage - maybe PW should worry more about their EMO and less about what Car Syo parents drive and we would be having a different conversation today
Syosset players are a dirty bunch of players. they will try to hurt you when ref is not looking.
Low class team- period
That comes from head coaching- he argues every call and verbally abuses refs
I would LOVE to have JC coaching our varsity team!
Please, let's stop all this hatred! It shows how childish we (parents) are. It was a game that Syosset won. Both coaching staffs did what they had to do for their teams. Section 8 was there watching the coaches, the referees were there to call the game (and we may agree or not agree with all their calls) but it is us, the parents (on both sides) that need to re-examine our behavior and decide whether it was justified or not. We should all remember, that most of our boys are looking to continue their lacrosse career in college. I can't imagine what college coaches that attended (and we all know they talk to one another) though of our (parents) behavior. Remember the saying, "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!" Is it worth a coach passing on your son because of your behavior in the stands? Nothing is written in stone. I hope this was a lesson learned to all!
who coached Roosevelt's girls/boy's varsity lax teams? any good players?
Fast fast fast is all I can say about Roosevelt. If they had sticks in their hands as long as other districts kids do, they would be serious contenders. On the girls side coach is a guy , looks like teaching the boys game to the girls, so can be a rough game.
Sayville watched the game films and tore apart Shoreham's attack. Congratulations to Sayville Coach for correctly reading Shoreham's game.
Did Northport have 8th and 9th graders on the field today?
No. There were 2 10th graders.
Syosset players are a dirty bunch of players. they will try to hurt you when ref is not looking.
Low class team- period
That comes from head coaching- he argues every call and verbally abuses refs
I would LOVE to have JC coaching our varsity team!
Why? The guy has never won anything. Without the players he has now he would be just an ordinary yelling ref manipulator. let's see how good he is after these players move on.
Did Northport have 8th and 9th graders on the field today?
Why do you ask?
Ironic to read someone call out a community for being low class by writing about it annonomously. Hopefully it makes you feel better thinking you lost because the other team was dirty and little kids were talking trash . Fact is you lost to a much better team. Fact is PW had just as many players with cheap and dirty plays. Fact is you have just as many and probably more low life and classless people like yourself. Enjoy watching 2 better teams play next week. Better luck next year
Did Northport have 8th and 9th graders on the field today?
Why do you ask?
Because a couple of players looked younger than most of the other players.
" Fact is PW had just as many players with cheap and dirty plays. "
An obvious concession that Syo had multiple players commit multiple cheap and dirty plays. And bragging about it. Is this really what we have come to? So embarrassing to the syosset community. It is the same on the field and in the stands. I saw the dad complaining about playing time fight the kid in the stands at the Pequa game. How embarrassing. I heard the Students call that elementary school-aged girl from PW an offensive name (while parents looked on with grins on their faces). How embarrassing. Really takes away from great players/kids that are on the Syo roster.
Great game played yesterday. Northport v. Ward Melville. Northport lost by 1.
Ironic to read someone call out a community for being low class by writing about it annonomously. Hopefully it makes you feel better thinking you lost because the other team was dirty and little kids were talking trash . Fact is you lost to a much better team. Fact is PW had just as many players with cheap and dirty plays. Fact is you have just as many and probably more low life and classless people like yourself. Enjoy watching 2 better teams play next week. Better luck next year
Nice try at a jab. Got better things to do than watch games next week
Ironic to read someone call out a community for being low class by writing about it annonomously. Hopefully it makes you feel better thinking you lost because the other team was dirty and little kids were talking trash . Fact is you lost to a much better team. Fact is PW had just as many players with cheap and dirty plays. Fact is you have just as many and probably more low life and classless people like yourself. Enjoy watching 2 better teams play next week. Better luck next year
Please the play of Syosset was so dirty that the MSG Varsity announcers commented that a particular player was making more tackles on the lacrosse field than he did on the football field. Refs played too great a role in this game. Yes penalties are penalties but the dirty play by certain players was out of hand. I am all for tough physical play but slashes and cross checks to head and cheap shots after a goal to the assisting players was uncalled for and all to frequent. Head to head hits were very evident on the MSG broadcast of the game. The actions on the field and in the stands by fans really were beyond unacceptable. The refs sucked!!!
Syosset players are a dirty bunch of players. they will try to hurt you when ref is not looking.
Low class team- period
That comes from head coaching- he argues every call and verbally abuses refs
I would LOVE to have JC coaching our varsity team!
Why? The guy has never won anything. Without the players he has now he would be just an ordinary yelling ref manipulator. let's see how good he is after these players move on.
Hasn't won anything? He won a county championship, and they're good every year, even after top division 1 players have moved on. They'll be good again next year.
Syosset players are a dirty bunch of players. they will try to hurt you when ref is not looking.
Low class team- period
That comes from head coaching- he argues every call and verbally abuses refs
I would LOVE to have JC coaching our varsity team!
Why? The guy has never won anything. Without the players he has now he would be just an ordinary yelling ref manipulator. let's see how good he is after these players move on.
Hasn't won anything? He won a county championship, and they're good every year, even after top division 1 players have moved on. They'll be good again next year.
They are good but never great. when they get off the Island we'll stRt to take notice and when they win a State trophy we'll be impressed.
Syosset players are a dirty bunch of players. they will try to hurt you when ref is not looking.
Low class team- period
That comes from head coaching- he argues every call and verbally abuses refs
I would LOVE to have JC coaching our varsity team!
Why? The guy has never won anything. Without the players he has now he would be just an ordinary yelling ref manipulator. let's see how good he is after these players move on.
Hasn't won anything? He won a county championship, and they're good every year, even after top division 1 players have moved on. They'll be good again next year.
They are good but never great. when they get off the Island we'll stRt to take notice and when they win a State trophy we'll be impressed.
He actually won the LI championship, but I guess that isn't considered winning "anything?" Sorry you're so hard to impress, jackass. Like I said, I'll take him as a coach any day, even if you're only impressed by state championships...
STOP - Syosset people let it go it is time to get you Massapequa hate on ad Port people just go away
Looking forward to a great game weds night SE/WM! Would be great if both
towns would show up in big #'s! SB Stadium great place to play & watch a game. ** Youth league coordinators of both towns, tell all your "alpha male" daddy coaches to cancel practice on weds & get to this game! let the little guys see up close what they can strive for down the road....
Pack the house & good luck to both teams!
When is the Nassau A Championship game?
Looking forward to a great game weds night SE/WM! Would be great if both
towns would show up in big #'s! SB Stadium great place to play & watch a game. ** Youth league coordinators of both towns, tell all your "alpha male" daddy coaches to cancel practice on weds & get to this game! let the little guys see up close what they can strive for down the road....
Pack the house & good luck to both teams!
Given that SBU is about the midway point between the two schools no reason to expect that their wont be a lot of fans of both
Looking forward to a great game weds night SE/WM! Would be great if both
towns would show up in big #'s! SB Stadium great place to play & watch a game. ** Youth league coordinators of both towns, tell all your "alpha male" daddy coaches to cancel practice on weds & get to this game! let the little guys see up close what they can strive for down the road....
Pack the house & good luck to both teams!
Great to hear it's just not my town and the better HS have the same problem!
Nassau A is 6:00 Tuesday at Hofstra.
Any word of on Season honors for Nassau or Suffolk
Any word of on Season honors for Nassau or Suffolk
I think all-county awards have been chosen, I beleve they are based on the regular season and not playoffs. All long Island and All tri-State teams are picked after playoffs. Does anyone know if all-American selections have been made? I know last year kids were notified by phone.
Sayville watched the game films and tore apart Shoreham's attack. Congratulations to Sayville Coach for correctly reading Shoreham's game.
SWR showed no patience and the Sayville D was very disciplined. Good win, someone did their homework.
Any word of on Season honors for Nassau or Suffolk
I think all-county awards have been chosen, I beleve they are based on the regular season and not playoffs. All long Island and All tri-State teams are picked after playoffs. Does anyone know if all-American selections have been made? I know last year kids were notified by phone.
Is the list public? Will we know by weds night games?
Ok, here we go.
Mass V Sett tonight and SME V WM tomorrow night.
Assume LI championship will be on Saturday.
Any predictions?
Smithtown East over Massapequa
Manhasset over Sayville
Cold Spring Harbor over Bablyon
Hoping for a SE vs. Syosset for LI championship. Could easily go the other way too! Either way, great games will be played!
Ok, here we go.
Mass V Sett tonight and SME V WM tomorrow night.
Assume LI championship will be on Saturday.
Any predictions?
I predict that Mass will not play Sett tonight and the LI Championship will be on Saturday
tonight
A's - Mass over Syosset not even close
B's - Best team on LI over Manhasset
C's - who cares
Smithtown East over Massapequa
Manhasset over Sayville
Cold Spring Harbor over Bablyon
Manhasset better fear the Owls!
Ward Melville over Massapequa
Lynbrook over Sayville
Mineola over Babylon
Ward Melville state champs
Ward Melville state champs
unless they doing away with faceoffs for the rest of the tournament that is a bold(silly) prediction - Massapequa would beat them by 7 and Syosset by 4
Both WM and SE are better than mass or syosett bud just wait
Ward Melville state champs
unless they doing away with faceoffs for the rest of the tournament that is a bold(silly) prediction - Massapequa would beat them by 7 and Syosset by 4
FO has nothing to do with the team, but instead the stupid coach that puts in long poles the majority of the time if any kid losses one. He is trying to protect against fast breaks and routinely gives the other team the ball.
the 22 of 27 northport won were the direct result of the coach and that is why the score was so close. If he manages the game the same way against SME, they won't get the chance to play either massapequa or syosset (neither of which have a FO the quality of northport or SME)...
Ward Melville state champs
unless they doing away with faceoffs for the rest of the tournament that is a bold(silly) prediction - Massapequa would beat them by 7 and Syosset by 4
FO has nothing to do with the team, but instead the stupid coach that puts in long poles the majority of the time if any kid losses one. He is trying to protect against fast breaks and routinely gives the other team the ball.
the 22 of 27 northport won were the direct result of the coach and that is why the score was so close. If he manages the game the same way against SME, they won't get the chance to play either massapequa or syosset (neither of which have a FO the quality of northport or SME)...
just spit balling here but maybe the "stupid" coach won the game with that strategy? had they tried to contest the faceoffs and wound up giving away fast breaks they might have lost but perhaps the coach felt he had the better team and as long as they didn't give up fast breaks off the draw they would win.....and that is exactly what happened
Ward Melville state champs
unless they doing away with faceoffs for the rest of the tournament that is a bold(silly) prediction - Massapequa would beat them by 7 and Syosset by 4
FO has nothing to do with the team, but instead the stupid coach that puts in long poles the majority of the time if any kid losses one. He is trying to protect against fast breaks and routinely gives the other team the ball.
the 22 of 27 northport won were the direct result of the coach and that is why the score was so close. If he manages the game the same way against SME, they won't get the chance to play either massapequa or syosset (neither of which have a FO the quality of northport or SME)...
just spit balling here but maybe the "stupid" coach won the game with that strategy? had they tried to contest the faceoffs and wound up giving away fast breaks they might have lost but perhaps the coach felt he had the better team and as long as they didn't give up fast breaks off the draw they would win.....and that is exactly what happened
Yes, you are just spit balling, but no, each of the boys that FO at this level no how to stop fast breaks (especially on this team in this town).
But yes, having a long pole as an occasional change of pace makes good sense, having a long pole give the ball away every FO makes none. The goalie stood on his head to win that game with some really big saves, wouldn't of had to if the coach didn't give Nport the ball every time...
I view the opposite. The WM Coach and or Team is great to overcome that many losses. I found it impessive the can overcome those loses at the FO. I believe if this team had a little better FO game they would be unstopable. FO isn't bad but just can't compete vs the better FO Teams. Look at their results at the FO vs Northport,Connetquot,Commack. I fear the same result if not worse vs the best at SME. Unfortnaly this will catch up with them.
How is All County determined? By the individual Coach or does the Coach panel have to approve.
I view the opposite. The WM Coach and or Team is great to overcome that many losses. I found it impessive the can overcome those loses at the FO. I believe if this team had a little better FO game they would be unstopable. FO isn't bad but just can't compete vs the better FO Teams. Look at their results at the FO vs Northport,Connetquot,Commack. I fear the same result if not worse vs the best at SME. Unfortnaly this will catch up with them.
Their FO guys are fine, the losses will come, no one wins every one and there is always someone better. But to give away possession willingly without trying goes against common sense...He made the team overcome the losses by giving away possession and will do the same with SME
How is All County determined? By the individual Coach or does the Coach panel have to approve.
I believe coaches vote. All American (US Lacrosse) is chairmaned by Searing from Northport for this region.
didn't Syosset eat Chaminade's lunch earlier this year. I'd stop spouting off about Chaminade lax. 18-4 or something like that.
I view the opposite. The WM Coach and or Team is great to overcome that many losses. I found it impessive the can overcome those loses at the FO. I believe if this team had a little better FO game they would be unstopable. FO isn't bad but just can't compete vs the better FO Teams. Look at their results at the FO vs Northport,Connetquot,Commack. I fear the same result if not worse vs the best at SME. Unfortnaly this will catch up with them.
2 of the three kids were hurt/out for first northport game and commack game. At quot they used mostly long poles and a couple of middies that don't take FO...
they have plenty of options at FO, coach chooses not to use and will likely cost his team a chance at states.
What are you smoking. Syosset did not beat them by that much if at all. Why won't Syosset play them during the regular season?? Thats right Syosset coach won't. Keep playing all the lower teir teams that make up your division and then lose in the finals like every year. At least Mass has the guts to play a real game after Chaminade makes their cuts
2 of the three kids were hurt/out for first northport game and commack game. At quot they used mostly long poles and a couple of middies that don't take FO...
they have plenty of options at FO, coach chooses not to use and will likely cost his team a chance at states.
Top *sounds like the mommy of fo kid who is on the sideline for a reason. Maybe your son isnt as good as you think. This coach wants to win
as much as anyone, do you really think he leaves a talented fo guy on the sidelines? maybe your son should be honest with you & tell you he cant beat the other guys in practice...
Last wave of UA AA just out. No LI Catholics? who is picking this? 7 Chammy's on last years Underclass & now Zero on the senior AA team.
You internet tough guys all the same. When someone disagrees with strategy they are crying and their kids aren't good enough
Blah blah blah
Perhaps some valid criticism of poor coaching is warranted? Or perhaps you are the coach trying to defend you asinine decisions?
Maybe you should learn a little lax before you open your mouth.
Gotta love the downing of Pequa! Team was overrated all year. Glad they have finally been exposed! #notthatgood
Syosset 17-8. See ya pequa
2 of the three kids were hurt/out for first northport game and commack game. At quot they used mostly long poles and a couple of middies that don't take FO...
they have plenty of options at FO, coach chooses not to use and will likely cost his team a chance at states.
Top *sounds like the mommy of fo kid who is on the sideline for a reason. Maybe your son isnt as good as you think. This coach wants to win
as much as anyone, do you really think he leaves a talented fo guy on the sidelines? maybe your son should be honest with you & tell you he cant beat the other guys in practice...
Perhaps you are an [lacrosse]?
Clearly not a parent on the team, just another internet tough guy who knows nothing?
I really don't understand what is wrong with you, but i can guess. Your doc recently changed out your meds? Your wife leave you because your dense?
Syosset 17-8. See ya pequa
Awesome! Great job and another county championship for JC! Told ya I'd take him on my varsity team any day!
tonight
A's - Mass over Syosset not even close
B's - Best team on LI over Manhasset
C's - who cares
Syo beats Pequa 17-8...at least you were right when you said "not even close"
Ha! GO BRAVES
tonight
A's - Mass over Syosset not even close
B's - Best team on LI over Manhasset
C's - who cares
Syo beats Pequa 17-8...at least you were right when you said "not even close"
Ha! GO BRAVES
Pequa was exposed, looked terrible. Go Braves. Unfortunately, all good things come to an end! Even the overrated ones!
Watched the SYO/Port game on MSG, have to say Port is a much more classy team, some of the antics of a few SYO players was a bit unsportsmanlike, funny how the cameras catch everything one wouldn't see at a game.won't call anyone out, but living up to the rep of a typical Lax d….e, (and that does not spell dude.)
No worries Port, Pequa will hand it to them in the Finals.
What was that you were saying .....??? Pequa will hand syo what , the championship trophy ? 17-8 Syosset
Smithtown East over Massapequa
Manhasset over Sayville
Cold Spring Harbor over Bablyon
Sayville is on a roll. Defense shutting down an excellent SWR offense. Which team from the north plays the LI champ?
B's - Best team on LI over Manhasset ??? Say it with me folks, 18 & 1!
tonight
A's - Mass over Syosset not even close
B's - Best team on LI over Manhasset
C's - who cares
Syo beats Pequa 17-8...at least you were right when you said "not even close"
Ha! GO BRAVES
Manhasset played the Lynbrook Owls, is that supposed to be the best team on LI?
What time is ward Melville /SE game tonight
What time is ward Melville /SE game tonight
5:30 pm
Willets!
Great game. hats off to both teams. both played outstanding
Willets!
Great game. hats off to both teams. both played outstanding
What a game! Outstanding effort by both! Heartbreaking when you lose in double ot, but WM should be proud!
Willets!
Great game. hats off to both teams. both played outstanding
Score? Winner?
If he's got Willets! then it must have been SE.
SME won in double OT. Great game to watch and WM has nothing to be upset about.
Also, great job by the WM coach. Even though we lost the majority of the FOs, he let his FO guys play and they won two big ones it OT and double OT. Game could have went either way, but hats off to SME on a great game.
SME won in double OT. Great game to watch and WM has nothing to be upset about.
WM boys keep your heads up! That was an amazing fight last night coming back from 3 goal deficit at half time. You did not disappoint! Good luck to East all the way to states, bring it home!
What time is ward Melville /SE game tonight
5:30 pm
What were scores of B and C finals?
With the majority of points coming from underclassmen yesterday for Smithtown East it looks like they will be strong again next year. Seniors did all of the scoring for Melville yesterday.
What other teams return a lot of impact players for next near?
Will Smithtown East win three in a row?
With the majority of points coming from underclassmen yesterday for Smithtown East it looks like they will be strong again next year. Seniors did all of the scoring for Melville yesterday.
What other teams return a lot of impact players for next near?
Will Smithtown East win three in a row?
Lets see if they can beat Syosset first before declaring a dynasty
With the majority of points coming from underclassmen yesterday for Smithtown East it looks like they will be strong again next year. Seniors did all of the scoring for Melville yesterday.
What other teams return a lot of impact players for next near?
Will Smithtown East win three in a row?
Lets see if they can beat Syosset first before declaring a dynasty
Syosset in a romp 14-7.
With the majority of points coming from underclassmen yesterday for Smithtown East it looks like they will be strong again next year. Seniors did all of the scoring for Melville yesterday.
What other teams return a lot of impact players for next near?
Will Smithtown East win three in a row?
Lets see if they can beat Syosset first before declaring a dynasty
Syosset in a romp 14-7.
I see it the other way....
Nassau in a sweep and none of the games close.
[quote=Anonymous]Nassau in a sweep and none of the games close. [/quot
Doubt that. Syosset can't play with Suffolk..
How about we wish all the boys well for the hard fought accomplishments they have earned thus far. These are all tremendous teams who could win/lose the championship on any given day. Congratulations to all the teams playing!
How about we wish all the boys well for the hard fought accomplishments they have earned thus far. These are all tremendous teams who could win/lose the championship on any given day. Congratulations to all the teams playing!
Couldn't agree more!
[quote=Anonymous]Nassau in a sweep and none of the games close. [/quot
Doubt that. Syosset can't play with Suffolk..
Predictions for Manhasset/Mt Sinai?
How about we wish all the boys well for the hard fought accomplishments they have earned thus far. These are all tremendous teams who could win/lose the championship on any given day. Congratulations to all the teams playing!
you just don't get it do you?
Q - You know what they call the long Island Runner up?
A - Loser
This wonderful site is not for people looking to get participation medals - this is about my kid beating your kid - Champion or loser - competition is what made this country great and socialist like you are trying to destroy America with posts like that........shame on you and shame on Obama
If Syo plays like they did against Mass. it will be extremely tough for anyone to beat them.
Quarterfinals, May 30
Syosset vs. Smithtown East, Stony Brook University, 3:30 p.m.
If Syo plays like they did against Mass. it will be extremely tough for anyone to beat them.
Unless SE scores more goals then them
Syosset will step up and beat Smithtown East by 11-9. Whenever East has faced a team with a good offense they have given up lots of goals.
your a pleasure - if you're not cheating your not trying hard enough, right?- if winning is just the end score then your a very sorry person - these games and championships are all about educating boys to become men - wake up tough guy
my friend you couldn't have said it better. these days too many mommies involved in their son's sports lives. it's called competitive sports for a reason. and a championship game is played for a reason. it's not to crown second place. my old man used to say you know what second place is? the first loser. I've been coaching for twenty years. I'm so tired of the emails and the babying of boys and the moms sticking their nose in. it's a contact sport. bake cupcakes for the team mom. like ny mom did. that was the extent of her involvement. she handed out a few cupcakes after the game and said good job. she didn't talk to my coach or question him. but nowadays it's yay everyone gets a trophy. and yes that person probably dId vote for Obama. first he's trying to take heavy protective equipment from our nation's police departments. what's next eliminating championship games from scholastic sports. friggin liberals. ask the boys playing in that championship game how good they'll feel watching the champions raise the trophy. go bake cupcakes ladies
Nice amount of boys named to the US lacrosse U19 tryout. The whole list is stacked!
if your not first you last!
Thanks Archie Bunker! That was very motivational.
if your not first you last!
That's messed up! I hope your son is not on the same team as mine! Guess if you lose, and sombody will, the county championship means nothing? Be proud and happy for all you acomplish. I'm embarrassed for you!
[quote=Anonymous]Nassau in a sweep and none of the games close. [/quot
Doubt that. Syosset can't play with Suffolk..
Predictions for Manhasset/Mt Sinai?
Will be over after 10 min. Manhasset in a duouble digit blowout.
Archie Bunker......a great American thank you. and as for my son his lax playing career is long over. he coaches the sport in Canada
Nice amount of boys named to the US lacrosse U19 tryout. The whole list is stacked!
where is the list posted?
my friend you couldn't have said it better. these days too many mommies involved in their son's sports lives. it's called competitive sports for a reason. and a championship game is played for a reason. it's not to crown second place. my old man used to say you know what second place is? the first loser. I've been coaching for twenty years. I'm so tired of the emails and the babying of boys and the moms sticking their nose in. it's a contact sport. bake cupcakes for the team mom. like ny mom did. that was the extent of her involvement. she handed out a few cupcakes after the game and said good job. she didn't talk to my coach or question him. but nowadays it's yay everyone gets a trophy. and yes that person probably dId vote for Obama. first he's trying to take heavy protective equipment from our nation's police departments. what's next eliminating championship games from scholastic sports. friggin liberals. ask the boys playing in that championship game how good they'll feel watching the champions raise the trophy. go bake cupcakes ladies
Just how small is your brain?
Archie Bunker......a great American thank you. and as for my son his lax playing career is long over. he coaches the sport in Canada
So he had to leave the country to get away from you? Everyone reading your posts can understand that!
Nice amount of boys named to the US lacrosse U19 tryout. The whole list is stacked!
where is the list posted?
On the US lacrosse website
Nice amount of boys named to the US lacrosse U19 tryout. The whole list is stacked!
where is the list posted?
LI U19 tryout invites
(A) Tyler Dunn Manhasset 2015 Penn
(A) Ryan Tierney Massapequa 2017 Hofstra
(A) Ryan Bray SWR 2015 Cornell
(A) Brian Willetts Smithtown East 2015 Notre Dame
(A) Daniel Rooney Smithtown East 2016 Ohio State
(A) Alex Concannon Syosset 2015 Hopkins
(A) Macaire O'Keefe Syosset 2016 Penn State
(D) Jack Fowler Chaminade 2015 Duke
(D) Matthew Borges Garden City 2015 Ohio State
(D) Nicholas DiPietro-HHH East 2016 Syracuse
(D) Eddie Bouhall Lynbrook 2015 Lehigh
(D) Thomas Reilly Ward Melville 2015 Cornell
(F/O) James Sullivan Garden City 2015 Harvard
(F/O) Austin Henningsen Northport 2015 Maryland
(F/O) Gerard Arceri Smithtown East 2016 Penn State
(G) Jack Zullo Chaminade 2016 Notre Dame
(G) Jacob Giacolone Sachem North 2016 Hopkins
(LSM) Thomas Wright Garden City 2015 Penn State
(LSM) Blake Carrara Riverhead 2016 Maryland
(M) Jack Tigh Chaminade 2015 Yale
(M) Patrick McCormick Hicksville 2014 N Carolina*
(M) Nicholas Yevoli Massapequa 2015 Yale
(M) Joseph Froccaro Schreiber 2015 Princeton
(M) John Daniggelis Smithtown East 2015 Yale
(M) Connor DeSimone Smithtown East 2017 Hopkins
(M) Joseph Licciardi St Anthony's 2015 Penn
my friend you couldn't have said it better. these days too many mommies involved in their son's sports lives. it's called competitive sports for a reason. and a championship game is played for a reason. it's not to crown second place. my old man used to say you know what second place is? the first loser. I've been coaching for twenty years. I'm so tired of the emails and the babying of boys and the moms sticking their nose in. it's a contact sport. bake cupcakes for the team mom. like ny mom did. that was the extent of her involvement. she handed out a few cupcakes after the game and said good job. she didn't talk to my coach or question him. but nowadays it's yay everyone gets a trophy. and yes that person probably dId vote for Obama. first he's trying to take heavy protective equipment from our nation's police departments. what's next eliminating championship games from scholastic sports. friggin liberals. ask the boys playing in that championship game how good they'll feel watching the champions raise the trophy. go bake cupcakes ladies
Just how small is your brain?
Sounds like "Rudy" above never got a chance to play in the big game as a little boy... Good Lord, take a breath, can't argue the on the Political rant (kind of agree). However, sports on a whole "is" about the competition. It's about winning and losing. Only one team finishes on a win, One! By your absurd definition all the other kids are losers??? Really?
my friend you couldn't have said it better. these days too many mommies involved in their son's sports lives. it's called competitive sports for a reason. and a championship game is played for a reason. it's not to crown second place. my old man used to say you know what second place is? the first loser. I've been coaching for twenty years. I'm so tired of the emails and the babying of boys and the moms sticking their nose in. it's a contact sport. bake cupcakes for the team mom. like ny mom did. that was the extent of her involvement. she handed out a few cupcakes after the game and said good job. she didn't talk to my coach or question him. but nowadays it's yay everyone gets a trophy. and yes that person probably dId vote for Obama. first he's trying to take heavy protective equipment from our nation's police departments. what's next eliminating championship games from scholastic sports. friggin liberals. ask the boys playing in that championship game how good they'll feel watching the champions raise the trophy. go bake cupcakes ladies
Just how small is your brain?
And if your son is on the losing team he better had not eaten any of mommy's cupcakes because they are for winners only.
Right winners only like the previous gentleman said. go back to the vacuum lady really.
no champions in kitchen - just women and losers - or is that redundant?
Get it right. Everyone gets cupcakes. but sprinkles are for winners.
Total farce......a lot of these players are certainly deserving others are just hooked up and like always it's who you know or who you b#!w.
sprinkles are for winners that's right. Lmaaaaaooo no winners in the kitchen just women and losers. too many moms involved in the boys sports. annoying
With the majority of points coming from underclassmen yesterday for Smithtown East it looks like they will be strong again next year. Seniors did all of the scoring for Melville yesterday.
What other teams return a lot of impact players for next near?
Will Smithtown East win three in a row?
W
Lets see if they can beat Syosset first before declaring a dynasty
Syosset in a romp 14-7.
I see it the other way....
What happened to the dynasty? SME is getting romped by Syosset. I think they spoke to soon!!!!
With the majority of points coming from underclassmen yesterday for Smithtown East it looks like they will be strong again next year. Seniors did all of the scoring for Melville yesterday.
What other teams return a lot of impact players for next near?
Will Smithtown East win three in a row?
W
Lets see if they can beat Syosset first before declaring a dynasty
Syosset in a romp 14-7.
I see it the other way....
Syosset totally dominated the second half of the game. Smithtown did not score a goal.
Syosset LI CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!
What happened to the dynasty? SME is getting romped by Syosset. I think they spoke to soon!!!!
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]With the majority of points coming from underclassmen yesterday for Smithtown East it looks like they will be strong again next year. Seniors did all of the scoring for Melville yesterday.
What other teams return a lot of impact players for next near?
Will Smithtown East win three in a row?
Don't you have to win 1 first?? How can you be so arrogant??
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nassau in a sweep and none of the games close. [/quot
Doubt that. Syosset can't play with Suffolk..
Predictions for Manhasset/Mt Sinai?
I bet you eating your words now. Not only did Syosset win they dominated the 2nd half of the game. Not even close. This year Nassau had the better teams.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nassau in a sweep and none of the games close. [/quot
Doubt that. Syosset can't play with Suffolk..
Predictions for Manhasset/Mt Sinai?
I bet you eating your words now. Not only did Syosset win they dominated the 2nd half of the game. Not even close. This year Nassau had the better teams.
Suffolk overrated. Nassau dominates long island lax.
Nassau sweeps Suffolk...ouch.
Nassau sweeps Suffolk...ouch.
Yea booiiiii! Nassau proving again where the best HS lax in the country is played.
nobody beating Pequa, not Nassau not Suffolk. Get it through your thick heads.
Lmao, whatever happened to this guy ? Tool
Have a nice summer Suffolk.
if your not first you last!
That's messed up! I hope your son is not on the same team as mine! Guess if you lose, and sombody will, the county championship means nothing? Be proud and happy for all you acomplish. I'm embarrassed for you!
Your correct, County Champs means nothing. States. You think the Pats are happy with a divisional title? No, it's superbowl or bust.
With the majority of points coming from underclassmen yesterday for Smithtown East it looks like they will be strong again next year. Seniors did all of the scoring for Melville yesterday.
What other teams return a lot of impact players for next near?
Will Smithtown East win three in a row?
W
Lets see if they can beat Syosset first before declaring a dynasty
Syosset in a romp 14-7.
I see it the other way....
What happened to the dynasty? SME is getting romped by Syosset. I think they spoke to soon!!!!
Smithtown East believed the hype a little too much. The program does not have a history of winning championships. Still waiting...maybe next year but it feels like the window has closed with this Senior class leaving.
Smithtown East believed the hype a little too much. The program does not have a history of winning championships. Still waiting...maybe next year but it feels like the window has closed with this Senior class leaving.
Cant wait to see the rings they order for this years championship lol
With the majority of points coming from underclassmen yesterday for Smithtown East it looks like they will be strong again next year. Seniors did all of the scoring for Melville yesterday.
What other teams return a lot of impact players for next near?
Will Smithtown East win three in a row?
Lets see if they can beat Syosset first before declaring a dynasty
Syosset in a romp 14-7.
Not a bad guess. Who do you like in the Belmont?
Smithtown East believed the hype a little too much. The program does not have a history of winning championships. Still waiting...maybe next year but it feels like the window has closed with this Senior class leaving.
Cant wait to see the rings they order for this years championship lol
Smithtown East won back to back County championships. Thats very impressive and I think they have a good shot at a third next year. Smithtown East has a lot of players back next year. I think they will do very well in 2016.
Smithtown East believed the hype a little too much. The program does not have a history of winning championships. Still waiting...maybe next year but it feels like the window has closed with this Senior class leaving.
Cant wait to see the rings they order for this years championship lol
Two County Championships in a row. How many other teams in Suffolk "A" have done that in the past five or 10 years? Smithtown East has a lot of very good returning players, they could win the county championship again next year.
They won when nobody thought they could (2014) and they won when everybody said they were the team to beat (2015). That is more than just about every other program in the county has been able to do recently. That to me is impressive.
Until proven otherwise, Smithtown East is the Top Program in Suffolk A.
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Two County Championships in a row. How many other teams in Suffolk "A" have done that in the past five or 10 years? [/quote]
only one other team has been able to repeat in the last ten years but that was West Islip who repeated 7 times, was 5-2 in LIC and won 5e states. WM has not repeated as County Champs but they are 1-0 in LIC and also won the States -
Smithtown East believed the hype a little too much. The program does not have a history of winning championships. Still waiting...maybe next year but it feels like the window has closed with this Senior class leaving.
Cant wait to see the rings they order for this years championship lol
Two County Championships in a row. How many other teams in Suffolk "A" have done that in the past five or 10 years? Smithtown East has a lot of very good returning players, they could win the county championship again next year.
They won when nobody thought they could (2014) and they won when everybody said they were the team to beat (2015). That is more than just about every other program in the county has been able to do recently. That to me is impressive.
Until proven otherwise, Smithtown East is the Top Program in Suffolk A.
A little trivia for you; in the past there have been a number of school winning 2 or more in a row; West islip, WM, Northport. You barely squeaked out the win this year in counties and got demolished in the LIC. May want to reign in the rhetoric for a while and wait to see what comes next year first. Will be a good battle as always next year in Suffolk Class A. No clear dynasty yet!
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Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
To the haters and those who have difficulty with reading comprehension.
The post stated: “Two County Championships in a row” – the post did not mention the word dynasty.
The post asked: “How many teams have done that in the past five to 10 years?”. The post did not ask who won the county championship back in the days of short shorts, high socks, bucket helmets, no helmets or superlight II’s or wooden sticks.
The post did not mention Long Island or State Championships, It simply said until proven otherwise Smithtown East is the Top Team in Suffolk A.
The poster was not looking for ancient history.
In the past 5 years only two teams have won multiple or back to back Suffolk A Championships.
- Smithtown East and West Islip.
In the past 10 years only two teams have done it.
- Guess what, same two teams: - West Islip and Smithtown East.
Ancient History the past 15 years only three teams have won back to back or even multiple Suffolk A County Championships:
- Smithtown East , Northport and of course West Islip.
Congratulations again to Smithtown East on a great accomplishment.
Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
I would say Melville lucky to be in the game. Melville lucky to get by Northport. Melville Lucky to go to OT.
Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
I would have to agree. Great talent with fundamental discipline and "we" ball missing.
Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
Too many freelance all stars .
Can we all root for our Long Island teams 3 from Nassau and 3 Suffolk girls teams to have a strong showing in the states the more champions the better they all have their work cut out for them lets bring some trophies home!
Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
Two things to address; the light schedule this year and repeating next year.
Strength of league play/
I am not sure id say it was weak, if you do not subscribe to my point of view lets agree to disagree that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I see every conference as weak if Suffolk is weak. Would it be any different next year if all the Suffolk playoff teams were in one conference. Making a theoretical power conference of 16 team conference would you still consider it weak. But if that was done, only play 12 of those teams and open up the rest of the schedule to play 4 non conference games with 1 sect 8, 1 Sect 1, 1 NYS team (regardless of Level), 1 out of state team. This allows for a good comparison of teams across the state and Island before the playoffs.
Repeating has a lot to do with succession planning/
What team return 70% or more of their starters, of that what are the grad yrs. SE seems to of had plenty of jrs/sophs which would make you think they will be strong again. Without names can you run down the Grad years of the following 2015 Playoff teams (xx srs, xx jrs, xx soph, xx frosh, xx ms). I would do it but I cant find a reliable roster on line.
SE
WM
NP
SW
Quot
SN
HHE
WI
BS
HHW
SE
Mack
Rvr
WW
EI
MC
In the past 5 years only two teams have won multiple or back to back Suffolk A Championships.
- Smithtown East and West Islip.
Just to be clear - the most possible multiple or back to back championships in a 5 year period is 2
The only thing I really get from "Back of the Cage" is a good laugh. It is quite humorous at what anonymous people will write about; teams, players, posters, and even nothing just to see who will take offense to the posting. I thank you all for making my day a little brighter, humor does make life more simple and that is true about most of the people who post on here on "Back of the Cage", they are truly ordinary 'simple' people.
SE needs to beef up its regular season schedule if it's ever going to win a state championship. Playing a tough schedule forces you to play team ball and prepares you for the playoff grind. Easy competition only inflates individual stats and nothing else. You don't see any 70 goal scorers on Chaminade yet they keep winning championships.
The only thing I really get from "Back of the Cage" is a good laugh. It is quite humorous at what anonymous people will write about; teams, players, posters, and even nothing just to see who will take offense to the posting. I thank you all for making my day a little brighter, humor does make life more simple and that is true about most of the people who post on here on "Back of the Cage", they are truly ordinary 'simple' people.
Hey that's funny
And what makes you more than ordinary simple people?
SE needs to beef up its regular season schedule if it's ever going to win a state championship. Playing a tough schedule forces you to play team ball and prepares you for the playoff grind. Easy competition only inflates individual stats and nothing else. You don't see any 70 goal scorers on Chaminade yet they keep winning championships.
easy on the "keep winning championships" crap. A 2 team league.....
Chammy does play one of the toughest schedules in the tri state no doubt.
Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
Too many freelance all stars .
The younger SME kids are even more about me.
The only thing I really get from "Back of the Cage" is a good laugh. It is quite humorous at what anonymous people will write about; teams, players, posters, and even nothing just to see who will take offense to the posting. I thank you all for making my day a little brighter, humor does make life more simple and that is true about most of the people who post on here on "Back of the Cage", they are truly ordinary 'simple' people.
Thanks for contributing to the very BOTC that you say the simply ordinary frequent. You gave me a laugh.
Thanks again.
Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
Too many freelance all stars .
The younger SME kids are even more about me.
Wow, back to back county championships and the haters keep on hating . Maybe they should make your kid the quarterback of the offense and let you coach the team. I'm sure they would win the State Championship
Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
I agree these kids are very self absorbed. Yes they have some individual talent but so do many other teams. The reality is they had an outstanding set of FO guys and dominated a lot of teams because of that. When they played teams who could compete at that position it was a much different game for them
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
Too many freelance all stars .
The younger SME kids are even more about me.
Facts are facts.
Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
I agree these kids are very self absorbed. Yes they have some individual talent but so do many other teams. The reality is they had an outstanding set of FO guys and dominated a lot of teams because of that. When they played teams who could compete at that position it was a much different game for them
why are still talking about a team that is out? Move on
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
Too many freelance all stars .
The younger SME kids are even more about me.
Facts are facts.
Fish rots from head down. If coach doesnt set precedent then its a free for all. Same gig at CSH
My son's team had one kid who single handedly lost every single game due to his selfish play. Held the ball 70% of every possession, was completely ineffective, we had boys who had played box lax for a season, could've at least been competitive, just gave up even trying.
Makes sense the kid isn't committed to any school, who wants that?
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
Too many freelance all stars .
The younger SME kids are even more about me.
Facts are facts.
Fish rots from head down. If coach doesnt set precedent then its a free for all. Same gig at CSH
All true but it starts with the parents.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
Too many freelance all stars .
The younger SME kids are even more about me.
Facts are facts.
Fish rots from head down. If coach doesnt set precedent then its a free for all. Same gig at CSH
All true but it starts with the parents.
I have a kid on WM team. We know many of the boys and many of the parents from SME team due to summer ball. They are good kids and good parents and strong lax players.
The people commenting negatively are either jealous or have a kid on the team that doesn't get to play much. either way, the opinion that person is expressing is not the same as mine.
Good kids, good parents, they lost a game to a better club, end of story. Syosset had a great year, hats off to them.
Suffolk has the better players as is evidenced by the Nassau vs Suffolk showcase game results every year but Nassau has better teams that play team ball. A lot of these Suffolk super stars don't care about the team game just about stats and looking good.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
Too many freelance all stars .
The younger SME kids are even more about me.
Facts are facts.
Fish rots from head down. If coach doesnt set precedent then its a free for all. Same gig at CSH
All true but it starts with the parents.
I have a kid on WM team. We know many of the boys and many of the parents from SME team due to summer ball. They are good kids and good parents and strong lax players.
The people commenting negatively are either jealous or have a kid on the team that doesn't get to play much. either way, the opinion that person is expressing is not the same as mine.
Good kids, good parents, they lost a game to a better club, end of story. Syosset had a great year, hats off to them.
SE parent here, couldn't agree more. Two great programs with a lot of respect for each other. Both should be proud of their outstanding seasons. It was Syossets year to move on, and we wish them well. Wish everyone would stop bashing. We all want to win, but only one can. Lots of variables in lax . Most of the top teams could win/lose to each other on any given day. Just look at the College tournament. Makes the game exciting, because you never know which team will step up "click"
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Somehow winning a County championship seems unfulfilling given the expectations SE had. Perhaps playing a light schedule didn't prepare SE for a battle tested Syosset team. I agree they will be back next year but 2015 has to be considered a huge disappointment.
SE can easily be described by the following phrase " Too much me not enough we" . The talent level on this team was quite exceptional but the discipline was surely missing. Mental and physical discipline was sorely lacking and on display time after time. The coach missed his opportunity this was the year. SE was lucky to get by Melville.
Too many freelance all stars .
The younger SME kids are even more about me.
Facts are facts.
Fish rots from head down. If coach doesnt set precedent then its a free for all. Same gig at CSH
All true but it starts with the parents.
I have a kid on WM team. We know many of the boys and many of the parents from SME team due to summer ball. They are good kids and good parents and strong lax players.
The people commenting negatively are either jealous or have a kid on the team that doesn't get to play much. either way, the opinion that person is expressing is not the same as mine.
Good kids, good parents, they lost a game to a better club, end of story. Syosset had a great year, hats off to them.
Well said. Both teams did great getting there. Syosset had a great season and won. stop being a sore loser or rooting against the kids on the field and the coaches. show respect to the game, the players, and the coaches. lead by example instead of complaining like a baby
To the haters and those who have difficulty with reading comprehension.
The post stated: “Two County Championships in a row” – the post did not mention the word dynasty.
The post asked: “How many teams have done that in the past five to 10 years?”. The post did not ask who won the county championship back in the days of short shorts, high socks, bucket helmets, no helmets or superlight II’s or wooden sticks.
The post did not mention Long Island or State Championships, It simply said until proven otherwise Smithtown East is the Top Team in Suffolk A.
The poster was not looking for ancient history.
In the past 5 years only two teams have won multiple or back to back Suffolk A Championships.
- Smithtown East and West Islip.
In the past 10 years only two teams have done it.
- Guess what, same two teams: - West Islip and Smithtown East.
Ancient History the past 15 years only three teams have won back to back or even multiple Suffolk A County Championships:
- Smithtown East , Northport and of course West Islip.
Congratulations again to Smithtown East on a great accomplishment.
All but for a brief moment in time. The moment they lost started the conversation for 2016. If only the two LI conferences could play for a state title. Until then 2016 starts now.
What is the scope and make up of the Nassau teams. It seems as if Suffolk has a bunch of young guns how does Nassau look.
Good luck SYO, SET and CSH in the semis. Represent boys. 516 & 631!
To the haters and those who have difficulty with reading comprehension.
The post stated: “Two County Championships in a row” – the post did not mention the word dynasty.
The post asked: “How many teams have done that in the past five to 10 years?”. The post did not ask who won the county championship back in the days of short shorts, high socks, bucket helmets, no helmets or superlight II’s or wooden sticks.
The post did not mention Long Island or State Championships, It simply said until proven otherwise Smithtown East is the Top Team in Suffolk A.
The poster was not looking for ancient history.
In the past 5 years only two teams have won multiple or back to back Suffolk A Championships.
- Smithtown East and West Islip.
In the past 10 years only two teams have done it.
- Guess what, same two teams: - West Islip and Smithtown East.
Ancient History the past 15 years only three teams have won back to back or even multiple Suffolk A County Championships:
- Smithtown East , Northport and of course West Islip.
Congratulations again to Smithtown East on a great accomplishment.
All but for a brief moment in time. The moment they lost started the conversation for 2016. If only the two LI conferences could play for a state title. Until then 2016 starts now.
What is the scope and make up of the Nassau teams. It seems as if Suffolk has a bunch of young guns how does Nassau look.
Syosset is loaded again for next year and Pequa will be strong too. Farmingdale should have a strong team next year also in Nassau. That is A. In C it is always a one horse race with CSH and in B it will be GC or Manhasset as always.
Not sure that is true. Looking at the top 20 collegiate programs in the country. Rosters have way more Nassau County Players than Suffolk.
suffolk guys dominate the community college ranks though...
14-11 final Niskayuna over Syosset
14-11 final Niskayuna over Syosset
That's what happens when you get cocky SYO
Not really surprising at all! Where's the daddy now who was saying if you're not a Winner, go home? Eating his words instead of the winners cupcakes perhaps?
14-11 final Niskayuna over Syosset
That's what happens when you get cocky SYO
Not really surprising at all! Where's the daddy now who was saying if you're not a Winner, go home? Eating his words instead of the winners cupcakes perhaps?
Which team did your kid play for that syosset beat
14-11 final Niskayuna over Syosset
That's what happens when you get cocky SYO
Not really surprising at all! Where's the daddy now who was saying if you're not a Winner, go home? Eating his words instead of the winners cupcakes perhaps?
Which team did your kid play for that syosset beat
Doesn't matter really, we are both losers now! My point is to be humble, and it is not all abut the state championship. All steps count. It wasn't me coming on here claiming anyone who doesn't win is a loser. Now somebony needs to think about what they say and be happy for both the winners and "losers"!
Syosset still no state hardware. Nice program but always overrated by townie blowhards.
Syosset still no state hardware. Nice program but always overrated by townie blowhards.
"blowhards"? no need for name calling - these parents might be arrogant, loud, obnoxious self entitled drunks but to call them blowhards is just plain rude
Syosset still no state hardware. Nice program but always overrated by townie blowhards.
"blowhards"? no need for name calling - these parents might be arrogant, loud, obnoxious self entitled drunks but to call them blowhards is just plain rude
WM parent again. We also know many families on that Syosset team and none fit the description expressed above. Syosset parents. Don't take the bait offered by the small minded name callers--they are the same people we all knew in HS, just jealous and not happy with their lot in life so they pick on others wherever possible. Everyone knows a couple of these people...
Good year Syosset boys, sorry you didn't take it all.
Ew. I just threw up in my mouth
All of our boys that played hard with dedication are winners!! At the end of the day, there is only one state championship team, but it's about the journey. Congrats to all boys!!!!
The real blow hards are the people who make rude comments about a team that just won the County and Long Island Championships. Obviously jealous!
The real blow hards are the people who make rude comments about a team that just won the County and Long Island Championships. Obviously jealous!
hardly - would love to win but we would rather be us than win and be you
The real blow hards are the people who make rude comments about a team that just won the County and Long Island Championships. Obviously jealous!
Of what? They lost! Didn't show up for the second half of the game. Sad ending, same thing that happened to SE, kind of ironic
The real blow hards are the people who make rude comments about a team that just won the County and Long Island Championships. Obviously jealous!
Of what? They lost! Didn't show up for the second half of the game. Sad ending, same thing that happened to SE, kind of ironic
Oh well, good job SYO, you gave it a good run. Great players, ok coaching. A great coach can make good players great, great players only play at the level of the coaching.
Could Calabria have done a better job ? What do you mean by ok coaching ?
Could Calabria have done a better job ? What do you mean by ok coaching ?
who cares, syo is out, move on, set & csh still alive.
Can a Syosset Parent please tell us how many of the boys on the lacrosse also played varsity football for the Braves this past season?
Long Island Champions in two sports is a great accomplishment for a young athlete. Congrats to The Braves.
Can a Syosset Parent please tell us how many of the boys on the lacrosse also played varsity football for the Braves this past season?
Long Island Champions in two sports is a great accomplishment for a young athlete. Congrats to The Braves.
I think there was at least 5 starters that played on the football team!
Can a Syosset Parent please tell us how many of the boys on the lacrosse also played varsity football for the Braves this past season?
Long Island Champions in two sports is a great accomplishment for a young athlete. Congrats to The Braves.
Thank you and you're right it is a great accomplishment that the boys should be proud of . And since it's rare that people come on BOC to point out positive things about other teams /schools it is appreciated .
Almost half of our lacrosse team are also football players , there were about 20 players that were on both teams that won the LI Championships this year. Definitely a memorable year
Can a Syosset Parent please tell us how many of the boys on the lacrosse also played varsity football for the Braves this past season?
Long Island Champions in two sports is a great accomplishment for a young athlete. Congrats to The Braves.
Are you looking for to see your kids name ?
Could Calabria have done a better job ? What do you mean by ok coaching ?
He's "ohfa" when it comes to states. That's "ok" and will never be confused with greatness.
Can a Syosset Parent please tell us how many of the boys on the lacrosse also played varsity football for the Braves this past season?
Long Island Champions in two sports is a great accomplishment for a young athlete. Congrats to The Braves.
Thank you and you're right it is a great accomplishment that the boys should be proud of . And since it's rare that people come on BOC to point out positive things about other teams /schools it is appreciated .
Almost half of our lacrosse team are also football players , there were about 20 players that were on both teams that won the LI Championships this year. Definitely a memorable year
Great, fantastic and congrats to all the Syosset kids who also played soccer or x country or archery or bowling or checkers.... Now that that's out of the way and congrats to all, MOVE ON, Syo is out, csh and set are still in.
Yes your right CSH would kill Syosett
Can a Syosset Parent please tell us how many of the boys on the lacrosse also played varsity football for the Braves this past season?
Long Island Champions in two sports is a great accomplishment for a young athlete. Congrats to The Braves.
Thank you and you're right it is a great accomplishment that the boys should be proud of . And since it's rare that people come on BOC to point out positive things about other teams /schools it is appreciated .
Almost half of our lacrosse team are also football players , there were about 20 players that were on both teams that won the LI Championships this year. Definitely a memorable year
Great, fantastic and congrats to all the Syosset kids who also played soccer or x country or archery or bowling or checkers.... Now that that's out of the way and congrats to all, MOVE ON, Syo is out, csh and set are still in.
I am a proud Syosset Parent and I think my son was on both teams but I was so drunk at all the games I really don't remember- we tailgate harder then you play
classless stuckup csh parent. the remark about syossett out csh in lame. csh football players are soft
Yes your right CSH would kill Syosett
I don't think so!!!!! Syosset JV killed CSH team!!!!!
Sorry Syosset parent- your son wasnt on both teams, you dont remember because of other issues you have, you were not invited to any tailgates.
Shouldn't hate on the parents of the town because your kid didnt play.
How do you divine that it was a CSH parent that wrote that? The author simply mentioned the two LI teams that are moving on...Relax guy...go yell at one of the service providers in your wonderful village like the rest of your residents do...classless...I hate crossing the boarder. And, I don't think that any football players are "soft" you may just have more better players given your size. But pipe down...last Syosset football glory was the early 70's...this year was likely an outlier, continuing enjoying it until it fades away.
I doubt that, since to so many of you winning is everything. The minute you lose you can only poke at the teams who beat you rather than taking a long hard look at yourselves. GROW UP
As far as Syosset JV killing CSH jv...congrats, you are the JV champions. Make sure to frame it...there are about 12 fresh and sophs on the csh varsity actually playing...see you next year. I think syossset is about 3-7 vs CSH in the last 10 years...
I love a good rivalry, maybe better then the next guy... That is what makes sports grand! But I rather like it more to leave it all out on the field and be friends when we are done! Some of these kids will see each other the next few years after they are home from break and some may even become neighbors as they grow up and their kids will be friends... strange how this road of life twist and turns.
It was a great season with various teams in the mix. For those returning for 2016 the season is already a few weeks old!
Can anyone tell me why CSH which is in Suffolk is not in section 11? Farmingdale has a part of the town in Suffolk but most is in Nassau and they are in section 8 where they belong.
how would they do vs chaminade jv?
how would they do vs chaminade jv?
who cares!!!
As far as Syosset JV killing CSH jv...congrats, you are the JV champions. Make sure to frame it...there are about 12 fresh and sophs on the csh varsity actually playing...see you next year. I think syossset is about 3-7 vs CSH in the last 10 years...
If I remember correctly syosset beat CSH pretty bad this spring!!!!
CHS State Champs! Manhasset losing to Victor. Not a great year for LI, with the exception of CHS. My opinion, LI teams need to learn how to play a WHOLE game!
Where is the list of All county for Nassau and Suffolk
Where is the list of All county for Nassau and Suffolk
Seems like it is hidden this year
I also do not like all of these pictures that get posted of the Seniors only. Show me one team where the underclassmen didn't help the cause it any title run. It is a team thing...
Suffolk Dinner tonight - No Lists?
Suffolk Dinner tonight - No Lists?
The kids getting all county were told. The all- Americans will be announced tonight. Kids were told if they were finalists
Can anyone tell me why CSH which is in Suffolk is not in section 11? Farmingdale has a part of the town in Suffolk but most is in Nassau and they are in section 8 where they belong.
CSH district includes part of Laurel Hollow and Oyster Bay Cove which are both in Nassau County. A CSH elementary school is in Nassau County as well.
Does anyone know how honors are determined for the publics? Does the coach nominate and other coaches vote or based on teams record each coach can select who he deems. Just looking for a bit of clarification in the process. Thanks
Does anyone know how honors are determined for the publics? Does the coach nominate and other coaches vote or based on teams record each coach can select who he deems. Just looking for a bit of clarification in the process. Thanks
Transparency at its best! At this point who cares how...
Who made it, can anyone give any color to it. The shame of it is 1/2 of us want to know because we want to slam the kid who made it over ours. I also want to see who to congratulate any of the boys when we see them.
Is there a slot for each position, do they have a 2nd/3rd team or an honorable mention. Someone said there was a team for first time on Varsity (Rookie of the year). What other Awards are there.
AA: henningson NP
Sutherland NP
Bucaro WM
Mccullogh WM
Willets SE
Arciri SE
Danigilis SE
Bray SWR
Rookie of the year has been in place for awhile now. Didnt go this year but last year was like this.
All div
All county
Rookie of the year
For the first time last year they gave out awards to the top attack, midfield, defense and goalie. One of each for the A schools and one for the B/C schools which came with a $500 scholarship to the students charity of choice. Which was nice.
All american honarable mention 4 players
All american 9 players between A,B,C
All newsday team
The coaches get to nominate kids based on their seeding. Higher seed gets more spots than lower. Then the coaches vote on it.
thanks great list of players.
Under Armour LI looks like the Turtles
UA Long Island
Christopher Adamo
Gerard Arceri
James Avanzato
Matthew Benus
Lucas Capobianco-Hogan
Blake Carrara
Matt Chmil
Lucas Cotler
Connor Desimone
Lawrence Galizia
Matt Gavin
Jacob Giacalone
Andre Gomez
Jack Keogh
Matthew Licciardi
Brendan Luu
Kevin Mack
Jared Nugent
Ryan Poole
Daniel Rooney
Frankie Tangredi
Kyle Thornton
Wayne White
Jack Zullo
Congrats to all the kids that made it. Good luck
What a joke, one kid on my sons team did nothing.
Agreed but you know what you are in for going in. The road to the 44 I think was done well. After that nothing else mattered.
Good luck to the LI Boys they will need it with the coaching staff and roster they have
Agreed but you know what you are in for going in. The road to the 44 I think was done well. After that nothing else mattered.
Good luck to the LI Boys they will need it with the coaching staff and roster they have
Wait, let me guess. Your son made the final 44 not the final 22 so the selection for the 44 was fair but everything after that was pre-ordained.
Agreed but you know what you are in for going in. The road to the 44 I think was done well. After that nothing else mattered.
Good luck to the LI Boys they will need it with the coaching staff and roster they have
Wait, let me guess. Your son made the final 44 not the final 22 so the selection for the 44 was fair but everything after that was pre-ordained.
Roster is young, but talented. As usual, shennanigans going on, such as the placement of certain Kids on the same team so they wouldn't have to face each other with the intention of eliminating one. Overall better than last year, guess it will never be perfect. Best of luck to the team, they have their work cut out for them, as well as a poor track record to avenge!Go LI
Agreed but you know what you are in for going in. The road to the 44 I think was done well. After that nothing else mattered.
Good luck to the LI Boys they will need it with the coaching staff and roster they have
Wait, let me guess. Your son made the final 44 not the final 22 so the selection for the 44 was fair but everything after that was pre-ordained.
Roster is young, but talented. As usual, shennanigans going on, such as the placement of certain Kids on the same team so they wouldn't have to face each other with the intention of eliminating one. Overall better than last year, guess it will never be perfect. Best of luck to the team, they have their work cut out for them, as well as a poor track record to avenge!Go LI
Yup Sherlock made 44 not final. Play thru out the season and stats prove the difference. But we knew that going in
Agreed but you know what you are in for going in. The road to the 44 I think was done well. After that nothing else mattered.
Good luck to the LI Boys they will need it with the coaching staff and roster they have
Wait, let me guess. Your son made the final 44 not the final 22 so the selection for the 44 was fair but everything after that was pre-ordained.
This is where it has to stop. You know as well as everybody else the final picks have a lot to do with who you know. I am tired of hearing this you must be one of those not picked. Had no dog in the fight this year, but nothing has changed from years past. These things are all about who you know!
Suffolk Dinner tonight - No Lists?
The kids getting all county were told. The all- Americans will be announced tonight. Kids were told if they were finalists
Lex Lessons has the list of everything. My suspicions were confirmed and feel so bad for a deserved kid. I never believed his dad.
Suffolk Dinner tonight - No Lists?
The kids getting all county were told. The all- Americans will be announced tonight. Kids were told if they were finalists
Lex Lessons has the list of everything. My suspicions were confirmed and feel so bad for a deserved kid. I never believed his dad.
What team? Are you saying the kids that got honors were not deserving?
Take it for what it is. Its a good way for your son to show the college coaches his stuff and that's it. The fix is always in for who will advance. My son kicked off the recruiting process with a great showing as a rising junior and going to a top 20 program this fall. As much as I felt he got screwed and should have advanced it didn't really matter. The college coaches know the deal.
Take it for what it is. Its a good way for your son to show the college coaches his stuff and that's it. The fix is always in for who will advance. My son kicked off the recruiting process with a great showing as a rising junior and going to a top 20 program this fall. As much as I felt he got screwed and should have advanced it didn't really matter. The college coaches know the deal.
When this event first started I think it meant something. Too much politics have diluted it . Also the early recruiting has made the politics even more transparent. Your right the college coaches know the deal.
Big HS tourney at WM tomorrow. Alot of great HS teams traveling to us for a change...For us, no NJ turnpike this weekend!!!
Big HS tourney at WM tomorrow. Alot of great HS teams traveling to us for a change...For us, no NJ turnpike this weekend!!!
What LI schools playing?
Big HS tourney at WM tomorrow. Alot of great HS teams traveling to us for a change...For us, no NJ turnpike this weekend!!!
What LI schools playing?
California: (1)
La Costa Canyon (CA)
Delaware: (1)
Salesianum (DE)
Florida: (2)
St. Thomas Aquinas (FLA)
Saint Andrew's (FLA)
Georgia: (1)
Lambert (GA)
Indiana: (1)
Carmel (IN)
Long Island: (10)
Huntington (NY)
Smithtown Red (NY)
Shoreham Wading River (NY)
Northport (NY)
Garden City (NY)
Wantagh (NY)
Smithtown Blue (NY)
Massapequa (NY)
Syosset (NY)
Ward Melville (NY)
Missouri: (1)
MICDS (MO)
Nevada: (1)
Palo Verde (NV)
New Jersey: (5)
Mountain Lakes (NJ)
Bergen Catholic (NJ)
Glen Ridge (NJ)
Don Bosco (NJ)
Kinnelon (NJ)
New [lacrosse]: (2)
Yorktown (NY)
Bronxville (NY)
Ohio: (1)
Elder Cincinnati (OH)
Oregon: (2)
Lakeridge (OR)
Sunset (OR)
Pennsylvania: (1)
Garnet Valley (PA)
Texas: (1)
Westlake (TX)
Virginia: (1)
Yorktown (VA)
Washington: (1)
Bellevue (WA)
Wisconsin: (1)
Milwaukee Marquette (WI)
Great 2018 Nassau Suffolk game yesterday. Game ended in a tie. 9 to 9 ended after one overtime.
Long island teams were playing whole bench out of state teams bench was real short
Long island teams were playing whole bench out of state teams bench was real short
I guess your team lost to an out of state team.
Isn't that what the summer is for, for LI teams to see what you have. And for the out of states to see how you can best LI teams. I get it, good job by all.
Long island teams were playing whole bench out of state teams bench was real short
At $230 a player each team gave lots of playing time to all. The teams that traveled had smaller squads. Bellevue Washington beat wantaugh in the final. The out of state teams all had good disciplined teams.
Long island teams were playing whole bench out of state teams bench was real short
At $230 a player each team gave lots of playing time to all. The teams that traveled had smaller squads. Bellevue Washington beat wantaugh in the final. The out of state teams all had good disciplined teams.
I think the cost per player was north of $250.
WM tournament not worth the $$$ fee charged per player.
Went to NSCLA this weekend and it was great.
Have to congratulate my boys 2017 LI OUTLAWS team who went there missing 10 players , played with some last minute fill ins and didn't lose a game until the semi finals to the crabs 7-4.
Beat Madlax National, Mesa Fresh, Laxachusetts, Thunder
Good job boys!
what was missing at the WM tourney that you say wasnt worth the fee?
WM tournament not worth the $$$ fee charged per player.
completely agree
what was missing at the WM tourney that you say wasnt worth the fee?
One word.....COACHES!
Went to NSCLA this weekend and it was great.
Have to congratulate my boys 2017 LI OUTLAWS team who went there missing 10 players , played with some last minute fill ins and didn't lose a game until the semi finals to the crabs 7-4.
Beat Madlax National, Mesa Fresh, Laxachusetts, Thunder
Good job boys!
Missing 10 players?? They went down there with only 25 players? That's Crazy!!
what was missing at the WM tourney that you say wasnt worth the fee?
One word.....COACHES!
Very few coaches actually showed up.
16 kids went to NCSLA tournament with 2017 Outlaws Select. Great Job
what are the better Summer leagues the better LI HS teams are playing in. or do the better teams just do travel tournaments?
Now that 2015 is behind us? What could 2016 look like.
Anyone have any way of finding returning rosters for Suffolk county teams. I know from MSG Varsity that a decent number of players from Northport, Ward Melville, Smithtown(s) etc were graduating, but who has the best returning lineups?
Love this time of year, everyone is tied for first!
How often do they change the leagues and divisions. is this year by year or is there some consistency. for 2016 will there be another realignment of schools and divisions.
I never understood why there wasn't a good record of the players yrs. MSG varsity did a good job recording the goals and assits but would be great to have the players yrs.
16 kids went to NCSLA tournament with 2017 Outlaws Select. Great Job
And two 2018's also filled in. Imagine that? Playing up, go figure.
I think the Under Armour tryout process is somewhat of a commercial scam. I realize they can only accommodate so many kids. But it seems to have a feel of being pre picked. I have seen too many kids who have monster tryouts not get the call to think otherwise.
The problem with LI UA is the coaches. They pick kids that line their pockets within their summer programs and then go to MD and lose. Time to bring in some new coaches. 0 and 4 last year was impressive.
The problem with LI UA is the coaches. They pick kids that line their pockets within their summer programs and then go to MD and lose. Time to bring in some new coaches. 0 and 4 last year was impressive.
it is not just Long island it happens all over. I think when this event started it was interesting, but now I think people see it for what it is, a showcase event where you pay your 180 get seen by some college coaches and have a very small percentage chance of making the team. Nothing against the kids that make the team they are all quality. But it is really not a true tryout.
In line with that thought, why is it coached and evaluated by local club heads? Isn't there an inherent bias and conflict of interest there?
In line with that thought, why is it coached and evaluated by local club heads? Isn't there an inherent bias and conflict of interest there?
While I agree with you in principle I do not see a way to find independent evaluators, anybody with the knowledge and ability to evaluate and coach a team like this would also have a bias if you went with college coaches you have their bias if you bring in people from another region what is there incentive to pick the best team - also the tryouts are in a bunch of different locations all over the country so if you bring in outside coaches and evaluators the cost would be astronomical and this is after all a business, and lastly, IMHO if you bring in independent evaluators and they pick the best 24 out of 400 that tried out over two days you probably would not get the best team but merely the kids that tryout or tried out well.
The problem with LI UA is the coaches. They pick kids that line their pockets within their summer programs and then go to MD and lose. Time to bring in some new coaches. 0 and 4 last year was impressive.
Not sure that I totally agree, one of the coaches cut his own brother who is a very accomplished and deserving player
But isn't that the purpose of a tryout? Whomever tried out best on those 2 days. Otherwise, why have a tryout at all?
But isn't that the purpose of a tryout? Whomever tried out best on those 2 days. Otherwise, why have a tryout at all?
They should pick the boys based on their season and accomplishments, like they do for the seniors. But then they wouldn't make all that try-out fee money!
But isn't that the purpose of a tryout? Whomever tried out best on those 2 days. Otherwise, why have a tryout at all?
They should pick the boys based on their season and accomplishments, like they do for the seniors. But then they wouldn't make all that try-out fee money!
at least a tryout gives the allusion of fairness
Tryouts are critical because all are there and can see the action - season accomplishments quite often are folklore with kids padding their stats against weak teams - also tryouts demonstrate who are playing their best ball at the moment - no process is perfect when selecting teams so understand that when entering the tryout - lastly the UA selections should be conducted by coaches with not club affiliation if at all possible as that would most likely eliminate a decent amount of the concerns people have ....
youth coach here looking to some different things offensively. anyone familiar with cold spring harbor. what kind of offensive set are they using. it appears they aren't really running anything in particular. They just have great lacrosse players. almost looks like they keep the ball on the perimeter and rotate over a man and just look for a crack to dodge. am I correct here?
I'm not saying they aren't well coached because the head coach is excellent. I'm just wondering if he gives the boys some free reign
youth coach here looking to some different things offensively. anyone familiar with cold spring harbor. what kind of offensive set are they using. it appears they aren't really running anything in particular. They just have great lacrosse players. almost looks like they keep the ball on the perimeter and rotate over a man and just look for a crack to dodge. am I correct here?
high school coach, if you are looking to implement someone's offense and you don't like what they do I wouldn't use that offense, I would use something different, hope that helps
youth coach here looking to some different things offensively. anyone familiar with cold spring harbor. what kind of offensive set are they using. it appears they aren't really running anything in particular. They just have great lacrosse players. almost looks like they keep the ball on the perimeter and rotate over a man and just look for a crack to dodge. am I correct here?
high school coach, if you are looking to implement someone's offense and you don't like what they do I wouldn't use that offense, I would use something different, hope that helps
no I was actually very impressed with what They were doing. I just wanted to be sure of I was correct in what I observed with CSH offense before I implemented it. it obviously works
Why would they fill spots with 2018 boys when they are supposed to fill spots with 2017 Black? That was what the 2017 Black players were told when their checks were cashed. If select needs players, they will pull from black. Just asking.
This is in regards to outlaws select 2017 getting congratulations with the help of 2018 players because they were short. They are very good players but the problem is the 2017 black players were told they would be called if select needed players.
Why would they fill spots with 2018 boys when they are supposed to fill spots with 2017 Black? That was what the 2017 Black players were told when their checks were cashed. If select needs players, they will pull from black. Just asking.
I believe 2017 black was at another tournament and 2018 kids were at same tournament. Played in a couple of games, don't get excited.
It's true 2017 black was at another tournament, but their roster is heavy and not every kid goes to every tournament. I'm sure they knew ahead of time that select would be short. They could have sent an email out and I would bet a few kids from black would have changed plans just to have an opportunity to play with select at a high level tournament. With all of these clubs, the second team is always the red headed step child. The point is, it's just another promise made to get people to pay. With that said, if you're upset call the director and complain. If enough people get upset, and the word gets out, registration may go down. By the way, don't tell people not to get excited who paid a lot of money and aren't getting what they were told.
Kids were asked from Black, and 1 or 2 went, Know your facts before you make stupid statments
Kids were asked from Black, and 1 or 2 went, Know your facts before you make stupid statments
Obviously not all kids were asked.
It's true 2017 black was at another tournament, but their roster is heavy and not every kid goes to every tournament. I'm sure they knew ahead of time that select would be short. They could have sent an email out and I would bet a few kids from black would have changed plans just to have an opportunity to play with select at a high level tournament. With all of these clubs, the second team is always the red headed step child. The point is, it's just another promise made to get people to pay. With that said, if you're upset call the director and complain. If enough people get upset, and the word gets out, registration may go down. By the way, don't tell people not to get excited who paid a lot of money and aren't getting what they were told.
The Black team was also short that weekend (I was there). The Select actually took a kid from the Black to play, but would have crippled the black team down in Baltimore if they took anymore. Select team also very very good and cannot just take anyone, would not be fair. Like a poster previously said- there were some 2018s at the same tournament that helped for a few games. Relax.
It's true 2017 black was at another tournament, but their roster is heavy and not every kid goes to every tournament. I'm sure they knew ahead of time that select would be short. They could have sent an email out and I would bet a few kids from black would have changed plans just to have an opportunity to play with select at a high level tournament. With all of these clubs, the second team is always the red headed step child. The point is, it's just another promise made to get people to pay. With that said, if you're upset call the director and complain. If enough people get upset, and the word gets out, registration may go down. By the way, don't tell people not to get excited who paid a lot of money and aren't getting what they were told.
The Black team was also short that weekend (I was there). The Select actually took a kid from the Black to play, but would have crippled the black team down in Baltimore if they took anymore. Select team also very very good and cannot just take anyone, would not be fair. Like a poster previously said- there were some 2018s at the same tournament that helped for a few games. Relax.
Why are all their teams short? They have kids not playing certain tournaments but still short kids ?? That's confusing.
So they took one kid out of 30-35. Again, it's a large roster. If they really wanted to they could have taken a few more. Like I said, kids want to play with that team because they are good. The fact is they have a history of bringing guest players that aren't on the roster or a part of the Outlaws to backfill that team when needed instead of their own players who have paid. Now they back filled with younger kids( who are probably very good players). People know this and are upset when they've been told their kid will have the opportunity to fill in. The top team is always the marketing tool for the club and they need to do well so they can tell people how good the club is. Unfortunately sometimes that comes at the expense of the people who have actually paid. They shouldn't make statements they have no intention of following through with. I am relaxed.
You have to understand lacrosse has become one big money grab. There are no real men left any more ( maybe West Point) men with ethics and principles and a sense of doing the right thing are gone. Very sad
So they took one kid out of 30-35. Again, it's a large roster. If they really wanted to they could have taken a few more. Like I said, kids want to play with that team because they are good. The fact is they have a history of bringing guest players that aren't on the roster or a part of the Outlaws to backfill that team when needed instead of their own players who have paid. Now they back filled with younger kids( who are probably very good players). People know this and are upset when they've been told their kid will have the opportunity to fill in. The top team is always the marketing tool for the club and they need to do well so they can tell people how good the club is. Unfortunately sometimes that comes at the expense of the people who have actually paid. They shouldn't make statements they have no intention of following through with. I am relaxed.
Not practical to offer an opportunity to all 30+ "B team" players. Would have to be just 1-1 private invitation depending on position need and player capability. And even then, not all B-team players should be asked to fill-in as they may not be ready for the next step up in the eyes of the club director. Maybe there are some 2018 "A" players that are simply better than the 2017 B players.
Outlaws 2017 Select was short players a few weeks ago. Apparently some players were playing with their town teams at a different tournament. They asked a few 2017 Black players to play. This left the 2017 Black team short (they had some injuries and other commitments). Black had a difficult time fielding a competitive roster. Is that fair to the Black team? Does the Black team exist to support the Select team or are they a separate entity that is trying to compete at their own tournaments?
I don't blame a kid from the Black team for wanting to play on Select if asked. Who wouldn't? That's great for that individual player and they should take advantage of the opportunity. The problem is fielding a Select team at the expense of the Black team. That's not right. The organization needs to have a better contingency plan.
Your probably right.....Out of 35 players they couldn't possibly find a few position specific players that the black team coaches could recommend. And I do agree, There may be some 2018s that are better, but why would the club bring in guest players in the past when those 2018s were so good? Stop,with the BS. It is what it is and in the words of the previous poster..."lacrosse has become one big money grab, there are no real men left." Please give us another excuse why these kids couldn't fill in.
I do not know nor have any authority here but maybe just maybe they called in guest players because they also have a responsibility to the Elite players to make sure that team remains at a certain level.
It stinks yes but maybe a sign.
were the guest players head and shoulders above what could have been offered from their teams
I hear what you're saying and it's a valid point, but if that's going to be the argument then they should have a larger roster for select to begin with in order to avoid these issues. It's also their responsibility to ensure they have a big enough team for the summer. In addition, I'm sure the 2017 black parents who paid $2400 and were told their kid may have an opportunity to fill in don't want to hear that they had a responsibility to select kids to surround them with higher level players when other kids are brought in to play as guests. I may be wrong, but I would bet they didn't pay to play. Isn't there a responsibility to all the paying customers regardless of skill level.
These kids on black get more tournaments and better kids do get opurtunity to play with select -
These kids on black get more tournaments and better kids do get opurtunity to play with select -
Not sure this is "The Queen's English".
No point in more tournaments if they aren't the right tournaments. I'm not hearing very good arguments defending their behavior because there really aren't many reasons for it except to make the club look good with no regard for who gets screwed. Most clubs pull stuff like this with their top teams.
2017 Black(Not Select) Doing best of best Legacy and NXT next 10 days , Not too shabby for them
There were multiple kids from Black asked, but they did not want to cripple the black team playing in Baltimore.
There were MANY players who had a prior commitment to play with HS that weekend- which was why they were short. My kid was asked to play, but had a HS commitment so could not play with either (he is on black).
Also, maybe MB only thinks a few kids can play with the select and it would be a disservice to anyone to have other players not up to par play with the select.
This is a non-issue. Black getting a lot of exposure this summer, there simply aren't top D1 kids on the team.
There were multiple kids from Black asked, but they did not want to cripple the black team playing in Baltimore.
There were MANY players who had a prior commitment to play with HS that weekend- which was why they were short. My kid was asked to play, but had a HS commitment so could not play with either (he is on black).
Also, maybe MB only thinks a few kids can play with the select and it would be a disservice to anyone to have other players not up to par play with the select.
This is a non-issue. Black getting a lot of exposure this summer, there simply aren't top D1 kids on the team.
Ouch. no D1 kids on the team. His son must be special and committed to a top tier D1 team. So Special. Please your all reaching, all your kids are going to sit on the bench at D1 Program.
Can't wait for the community to wake up and realize this is all a scam. Make sure you pay for that special prospect camp as well. Lacrosse coaches are running to the bank.
Thanks for the input PB. Keep mixing the cool aid for everyone. There are plenty of people willing to drink it.
Not usually impressed by the individual showcases, but I have to say that national 175 Best of The Best was worth the fee. Many coaches in attendance. Wish they had 3 games instead of two, but still a good experience if you were 2016/17.
I figured most of coaches would be at jake reed? Or is it mostly division 3 coaches?
I'm sure there were a ton of coaches at JR, but there was a pretty good D1 presence at this event. Definitely a good mix of D1,D2 and D3. Both of my sons games had about 30 coaches watching.
I'm not really involved in this sport but from what it seems like this black team is getting screwed. First off, by you saying that there aren't any D1 players on that team is just throwing your son under the bus. Why don't you worry about your son getting recruited first and then you can comment on the other players. Second, who are you to say that they are not D1 players? Are you a top recruiter? Didn't think so.
why the recurrent notion that D1 is the only important type team on the next level? do they have a lot of experience with seeing D2 or D3 players in college games? doubtfull. many D3 players choose the D3 route for variety of reasons. more attractive school , good team, etc. look at any top 20-25 D3 program and you will find may, many kids who were recruited by D1. choosing not to go D1 isn't some sort of failure is it?
After hearing the time commitment to play D1, how a D1 team/coach even dictates what doctor you can go to while at home, my kid said no way. They OWN you, it is not for every kid. Pick the school, not the program.
I guess some of the posters may consider playing in front if anyone but D 1 coaches is beneath them. Wait till these same elite parents say "oh my kid can always play D2 or 3. Then they get a dose of reity when they try and walk on.
What happened to the LI Under Armour team? Won two the first day, including one against the tournament winner Philly. Then list several in a row by one point. Comes down to terrible coaching MC. Bad decisions cost you the tournament, sad for LI!
Let me guess the previous poster had a son that didn't make the LI Under Armour Team!!!
Let me guess the previous poster had a son that didn't make the LI Under Armour Team!!!
Let me guess your son did make it but didn't make it past first round in playoff bracket? Can anyone say POLITICS!!!
All boys chosen are great lacrosse players, but when 14 of the 24 come from MC's own club, doesn't pass the smell test. He is in charge of to much on LI. UA tryouts, Empire state tryouts, Nat175, Express. Way too much conflict of interest and self promotion. Need fresh evaluation crew. Same kids may make it again (and good for them), but MC is not the answer.
His coaching was the problem. He failed the team. They had the talent to win the whole thing (beat winner in pool play) comes down to poor coaching. Too much faith in his home boys who did not deliver. He should have made more adjustmentsense that's how quality coaches win games. He had no plan!
Mike c was the last coach to win in under armour. Last two years when it was coached by Long Island high school coaches they didn't win at all. One of last yea coaches had a kid who made the team but never showed up but I am sure that was mike c fault too. Give it a rest there was plenty of talent there boys need to take some responsibility too
His coaching was the problem. He failed the team. They had the talent to win the whole thing (beat winner in pool play) comes down to poor coaching. Too much faith in his home boys who did not deliver. He should have made more adjustmentsense that's how quality coaches win games. He had no plan!
When was the last time Mike C. actually ever won anything meaningful as a coach? Serious question. I can't recall anything. All I know him as is a continual runner-up on the club circuit (older grades - not the pee wees) and a JV coach who's schedule is meaningless and packed with a bunch of road kill "opponents". I say he's overrated and mediocre at best as a coach. If you expected him to be a coaching genius or something you've obviously drank too much Express/St. A's Cool Aid. He would be about 10th on the list of coaches that might be equipped for this. His only chance of winning is if he's handed a bunch of all-Americans to work with and even then it's not a lay up.
Dear Moderator of this site...not hard to figure out who the poster was referring to. There aren't that many middies on a team and also called out the town/school the player is from.
Why are we allowing writers of these posts to target and single out? I thought you had a policy against this.
Dear Moderator of this site...not hard to figure out who the poster was referring to. There aren't that many middies on a team and also called out the town/school the player is from.
Why are we allowing writers of these posts to target and single out? I thought you had a policy against this.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.. Every once in awhile crap (and I mean crap) gets through.
His coaching was the problem. He failed the team. They had the talent to win the whole thing (beat winner in pool play) comes down to poor coaching. Too much faith in his home boys who did not deliver. He should have made more adjustmentsense that's how quality coaches win games. He had no plan!
When was the last time Mike C. actually ever won anything meaningful as a coach? Serious question. I can't recall anything. All I know him as is a continual runner-up on the club circuit (older grades - not the pee wees) and a JV coach who's schedule is meaningless and packed with a bunch of road kill "opponents". I say he's overrated and mediocre at best as a coach. If you expected him to be a coaching genius or something you've obviously drank too much Express/St. A's Cool Aid. He would be about 10th on the list of coaches that might be equipped for this. His only chance of winning is if he's handed a bunch of all-Americans to work with and even then it's not a lay up.
I've heard him refer to some players as Stallions. Mike C is certainly not in the class of coaching Stallions. He's a dinasour and needs to step aside from coaching/selecting UA.
another MC quote. looks like Tarzan...plays like Jane
UA needs to pass on MC moving forward.........
UA needs to pass on MC moving forward.........
Why all the MC bashing, some like his style others don't. I don't think it matters who on LI is involved with UA, the results will be the same, nothing but whining and complaining. The only true way for such events like this to work is to have outside evaluators and there is no way that is going to happen, it would cost too much money to bring them in, house them and feed them. So, unless you are willing to spend your time in coordinating, evaluating, reviewing, setting up the practices and organizing the events, I suggest you keep quiet. I am not a real MC fan but cannot complain about his coaching methods, it works... sometimes.
UA needs to pass on MC moving forward.........
Why all the MC bashing, some like his style others don't. I don't think it matters who on LI is involved with UA, the results will be the same, nothing but whining and complaining. The only true way for such events like this to work is to have outside evaluators and there is no way that is going to happen, it would cost too much money to bring them in, house them and feed them. So, unless you are willing to spend your time in coordinating, evaluating, reviewing, setting up the practices and organizing the events, I suggest you keep quiet. I am not a real MC fan but cannot complain about his coaching methods, it works... sometimes.
Fyi, the older express team he is currently coaching also lost early on at Adrenalin a few weeks ago.
As for the inability of UA to bring in outside evaluators, they charge 180$ to try out! Are you kidding?
Yeah, not buying the BS that UA-LI should sit back and continue to roll out MC. He has been in charge of too much for too long and lacks results to boot. End the nepotism.
A fitting description many times in sports...
A fitting description many times in sports...
With the talent on the Island, if MC doesn't at least make it to the final game (win or lose), it should be handed to somebody else for the following year. Same bar for the next guy too!
Yeah, not buying the BS that UA-LI should sit back and continue to roll out MC. He has been in charge of too much for too long and lacks results to boot. End the nepotism.
anybody know in the last 5 years who the coaches have been? I do not think MC coached the last two years but am not positive and I think they were like 1-7 the last two years - this year was 2-3 with 3 one goal losses, I still find it crazy that LI continually has such bad showings but I believe it is a deeper problem then just one person
Yeah, not buying the BS that UA-LI should sit back and continue to roll out MC. He has been in charge of too much for too long and lacks results to boot. End the nepotism.
anybody know in the last 5 years who the coaches have been? I do not think MC coached the last two years but am not positive and I think they were like 1-7 the last two years - this year was 2-3 with 3 one goal losses, I still find it crazy that LI continually has such bad showings but I believe it is a deeper problem then just one person
The fish rots from the head down.
Yes they still pick the kids that were the best players in 5th grade.
another MC quote. looks like Tarzan...plays like Jane
Coaches like Jane.
Events like Empire and UA need to quietly move on from him. Let him run his Nat 175 and Club. He is good at it. But coaching and making impartial tryout picks for grander things is not in his DNA..........
What a bunch of cry babies...
Go back to your dull and sad lives and let others decide who coaches UA. Because you all clearly do not understand lax or coaching.
You are all the people that give LI lax a bad name
Which HS Varisty coaches would be considered elite? Also, are there any up and coming young promising lacrosse coaches in the area ready to take on a program on Long Island?
Ok keeping signing checks for your half [lacrosse] lax kid
I am sure MC will get hm on the next team.
What a bunch of cry babies...
Go back to your dull and sad lives and let others decide who coaches UA. Because you all clearly do not understand lax or coaching.
You are all the people that give LI lax a bad name
Ok Mr. High and Mighty. Sorry to burst your bubble but LI lax doesn't have a bad name.
What a bunch of cry babies...
Go back to your dull and sad lives and let others decide who coaches UA. Because you all clearly do not understand lax or coaching.
You are all the people that give LI lax a bad name
I guess your fine with the [lacrosse] hum outcome when expectations were to win it. Maybe when your son is involved you'll think differently about the coaching.
A fitting description many times in sports...
With the talent on the Island, if MC doesn't at least make it to the final game (win or lose), it should be handed to somebody else for the following year. Same bar for the next guy too!
News Flash
Last year a massapequa coach a sachem north coach a chaminade coach and a club coach not express went 0-4
The year before the same thing no mike c they only one 1 game
This year you had 5 kids on the team who were on last years team only one was express you keep blaming mike c he did better than others why don't you enlighten us with positions that were weak
It all starts with the DIRTY selection process. We are not sending the best lacrosse players, we are sending the best connected lacrosse players.
After watching youth lacrosse for 8/9 years up thru recruiting ages, I am convinced as kids age the focus becomes a "me" mentality, not team play, but showman performances in these events. If all are out for their own gain, they will not win, the coach can not change that behavior.
Lacrosse is the most individualized sport out there. It's the most disheartening aspect of this youth sport. Everyone is seen as a threat and everyone wants to get their numbers. All u hear from the sidelines are parents screaming at their sons to "go to cage" when they touch the ball. Times have cabbages and not for the better and I feel it's the parents that bread this type of behavior.
agree. its really sad that know nothing parents are such haters. also, no team spirit among parents. small pockets or cliques are the rule in my town and its not gonna change. ignorant parents will never think that the reality or end game doesn't apply to their son or daughter
A fitting description many times in sports...
With the talent on the Island, if MC doesn't at least make it to the final game (win or lose), it should be handed to somebody else for the following year. Same bar for the next guy too!
News Flash
Last year a massapequa coach a sachem north coach a chaminade coach and a club coach not express went 0-4
The year before the same thing no mike c they only one 1 game
This year you had 5 kids on the team who were on last years team only one was express you keep blaming mike c he did better than others why don't you enlighten us with positions that were weak
Don't you get it? Positions/kids not weak, coaching was! No plan or plays. No leadership. Kids were capable. They showed that by beating tournament winner in pool play!
A fitting description many times in sports...
With the talent on the Island, if MC doesn't at least make it to the final game (win or lose), it should be handed to somebody else for the following year. Same bar for the next guy too!
News Flash
Last year a massapequa coach a sachem north coach a chaminade coach and a club coach not express went 0-4
The year before the same thing no mike c they only one 1 game
This year you had 5 kids on the team who were on last years team only one was express you keep blaming mike c he did better than others why don't you enlighten us with positions that were weak
Don't you get it? Positions/kids not weak, coaching was! No plan or plays. No leadership. Kids were capable. They showed that by beating tournament winner in pool play!
So, in pool play it was "all" the kids that won the game and the coach had nothing to do with it? When they win its the kids and when they get beat its the coach, is that the way it works?
Who were the coaches in 2014 and 2013?
Below is from another thread: I Thought it might be applicable here too.
-{ "Wow, sounds like a bunch of jealous parents to me. I say congratulations to the kid and his family.
The rest of you need to get a grip and focus on your own kid and his/her deal..."}
--- "Couldn't agree more. The problem is that many parents refuse to honestly evaluate their children. Many become bitter and jealous and spew venom and hate at other children. They do it on this site, they do it on the sideline and they do it around town. When another child is having more success than their child they look to tear that child down anyway they can. Its ugly.
If the kid scores a lot of goals the jealous parents will call the player a "Ball Hog".
If the kid makes an "All Star / Elite / Top Club" team the bitter parents will say its only because his/her Dad knows the coaches.
If the kid commits to a Top 5 or 10 college the jealous parent will say the player will never get on the field.
If the kid commits to Harvard the bitter jealous parent will say my son/daughter doesn't want to go to an Ivy League School.
If the kid commits to a Big D-I School the jealous parents will say we are focusing on academics and looking at D-III schools.
If a kid is being actively recruited by a number of top programs the bitter jealous parents will say we are looking at ABC and XYZ and we visited XXX even though their kid is not being recruited by those schools.
It's never ending, on our sideline this past spring we had parents counting out loud the number of turnovers a player had. We have parents chirping loudly "Pass The Ball" however I never heard those words when the Jealous bitter parents child had the ball. If it were not so sad it would be funny.
Couple all of the hate and venom spewed with all of the [lacrosse] Kissing many of these parents do and you have a cesspool of a sideline. Does not matter if it is school or club, the [lacrosse] kissers are there. They will kiss the [lacrosse] of the coach, Club Director, AD, Assistant Coach, Spouse of the coach, Sibling of the coach, friend of the coach, anyone who they think can help. Have you ever noticed how certain parents always have a reason to talk to or email the coach? Even the ones who are bitter on the sideline, they make sure they put on the happy face just before their nose hits the coaches [lacrosse]. Love it when I see a kid who does not get the hype from the club or school get recruited (by top college programs) over the favored ones. All the [lacrosse] kissing from parents and the misguided efforts of a bad coach will not stop the college coaches from identifying the top athletes.
It's a mess. Hope your club and or town is different".
This is every club... The sport has become toxic.
Below is from another thread: I Thought it might be applicable here too.
-{ "Wow, sounds like a bunch of jealous parents to me. I say congratulations to the kid and his family.
The rest of you need to get a grip and focus on your own kid and his/her deal..."}
--- "Couldn't agree more. The problem is that many parents refuse to honestly evaluate their children. Many become bitter and jealous and spew venom and hate at other children. They do it on this site, they do it on the sideline and they do it around town. When another child is having more success than their child they look to tear that child down anyway they can. Its ugly.
If the kid scores a lot of goals the jealous parents will call the player a "Ball Hog".
If the kid makes an "All Star / Elite / Top Club" team the bitter parents will say its only because his/her Dad knows the coaches.
If the kid commits to a Top 5 or 10 college the jealous parent will say the player will never get on the field.
If the kid commits to Harvard the bitter jealous parent will say my son/daughter doesn't want to go to an Ivy League School.
If the kid commits to a Big D-I School the jealous parents will say we are focusing on academics and looking at D-III schools.
If a kid is being actively recruited by a number of top programs the bitter jealous parents will say we are looking at ABC and XYZ and we visited XXX even though their kid is not being recruited by those schools.
It's never ending, on our sideline this past spring we had parents counting out loud the number of turnovers a player had. We have parents chirping loudly "Pass The Ball" however I never heard those words when the Jealous bitter parents child had the ball. If it were not so sad it would be funny.
Couple all of the hate and venom spewed with all of the [lacrosse] Kissing many of these parents do and you have a cesspool of a sideline. Does not matter if it is school or club, the [lacrosse] kissers are there. They will kiss the [lacrosse] of the coach, Club Director, AD, Assistant Coach, Spouse of the coach, Sibling of the coach, friend of the coach, anyone who they think can help. Have you ever noticed how certain parents always have a reason to talk to or email the coach? Even the ones who are bitter on the sideline, they make sure they put on the happy face just before their nose hits the coaches [lacrosse]. Love it when I see a kid who does not get the hype from the club or school get recruited (by top college programs) over the favored ones. All the [lacrosse] kissing from parents and the misguided efforts of a bad coach will not stop the college coaches from identifying the top athletes.
It's a mess. Hope your club and or town is different".
This is massively defensive point of view that is completely off base for this discussion. The discussion is about the annual futility of the long island representive to the underclass games. Who's going to say that year in and year out the talent is better than long island. Answer: nobody. So it must be the coaching and selection process. The results speak volumes that something is very amiss - either the kids play selfishly or not coached properly or too much talent left at home or all of the above.
After watching youth lacrosse for 8/9 years up thru recruiting ages, I am convinced as kids age the focus becomes a "me" mentality, not team play, but showman performances in these events. If all are out for their own gain, they will not win, the coach can not change that behavior.
This is the best answer I've seen in this entire discussion. Couldn't agree more and makes sense why such great talent doesn't win. God forbid a kid doesn't "get his" while his top 10 college coach is watching. Warped. But at the same time its up to the coach to change that behavior and try different players if it's hurting the effort of the others on the team.
Below is from another thread: I Thought it might be applicable here too.
-{ "Wow, sounds like a bunch of jealous parents to me. I say congratulations to the kid and his family.
The rest of you need to get a grip and focus on your own kid and his/her deal..."}
--- "Couldn't agree more. The problem is that many parents refuse to honestly evaluate their children. Many become bitter and jealous and spew venom and hate at other children. They do it on this site, they do it on the sideline and they do it around town. When another child is having more success than their child they look to tear that child down anyway they can. Its ugly.
If the kid scores a lot of goals the jealous parents will call the player a "Ball Hog".
If the kid makes an "All Star / Elite / Top Club" team the bitter parents will say its only because his/her Dad knows the coaches.
If the kid commits to a Top 5 or 10 college the jealous parent will say the player will never get on the field.
If the kid commits to Harvard the bitter jealous parent will say my son/daughter doesn't want to go to an Ivy League School.
If the kid commits to a Big D-I School the jealous parents will say we are focusing on academics and looking at D-III schools.
If a kid is being actively recruited by a number of top programs the bitter jealous parents will say we are looking at ABC and XYZ and we visited XXX even though their kid is not being recruited by those schools.
It's never ending, on our sideline this past spring we had parents counting out loud the number of turnovers a player had. We have parents chirping loudly "Pass The Ball" however I never heard those words when the Jealous bitter parents child had the ball. If it were not so sad it would be funny.
Couple all of the hate and venom spewed with all of the [lacrosse] Kissing many of these parents do and you have a cesspool of a sideline. Does not matter if it is school or club, the [lacrosse] kissers are there. They will kiss the [lacrosse] of the coach, Club Director, AD, Assistant Coach, Spouse of the coach, Sibling of the coach, friend of the coach, anyone who they think can help. Have you ever noticed how certain parents always have a reason to talk to or email the coach? Even the ones who are bitter on the sideline, they make sure they put on the happy face just before their nose hits the coaches [lacrosse]. Love it when I see a kid who does not get the hype from the club or school get recruited (by top college programs) over the favored ones. All the [lacrosse] kissing from parents and the misguided efforts of a bad coach will not stop the college coaches from identifying the top athletes.
It's a mess. Hope your club and or town is different".
This is massively defensive point of view that is completely off base for this discussion. The discussion is about the annual futility of the long island representive to the underclass games. Who's going to say that year in and year out the talent is better than long island. Answer: nobody. So it must be the coaching and selection process. The results speak volumes that something is very amiss - either the kids play selfishly or not coached properly or too much talent left at home or all of the above.
How about there are very good players from all over the country. Not all the best players come from Long Island.
Who coached the 2014 and 2013 Long Island Under Arnour Teams?
Do you really think Long Island should win it every year?
Who Just won the High School Tournament at Ward Melville?
Where was the team from that beat WM twice in that tournament?
Neither team was from Long Island.
Long Island puts out more players than other areas because the population is much greater.
Long Island does not put out better players.
The above post was not defensive it is a pretty accurate statement of the current lacrosse environment on Long Island.
If your kid did not make the Under Armour Team it must be an unfair tryout.
Long Island dropping three one goal game is a clear indicator that the coach sucks or the selection process is corrupt.
There were many of LI top players that skipped the UA tryout because Channy was involved. They knew that nothing he is ever involved in is on the level.
There were many of LI top players that skipped the UA tryout because Channy was involved. They knew that nothing he is ever involved in is on the level.
Way too many selected from his own barracudas and turtles - inbreeding is not a recipe for winning.
There were many of LI top players that skipped the UA tryout because Channy was involved. They knew that nothing he is ever involved in is on the level.
Way too many selected from his own barracudas and turtles - inbreeding is not a recipe for winning.
If all of these LI Top Players did not show up at the tryouts who do you think will be selected? you can't have it both ways. Keep hating and complaining and not showing up for tryouts.
I notice that none of the questions have been addressed, always back to the same BS about you know who.
Let it go already.
If your kid shows up and plays better than most then you give the selectors no choice but to pick him. That is how it works.
The comment about not showing up is a joke.
Please that's not how it works on LI, my kid showed up
Out played kids and got put on B team. While kids that
Did not go to try outs make A team, (Brine)
No wonder LI can't go to the regional showcases or regional events and win, the parents are leaving the good players at home knowing that they will not make the team. Thank you for the clarification, I just thought the quality of players in other regions had gotten better, i now know and understand that it is the parents who are at fault.
2017 Black(Not Select) Doing best of best Legacy and NXT next 10 days , Not too shabby for them
Outlaw team showed up with 15 left with 14 and played hard all five games. After playing six games at Legacy on Saturday/Sunday.
Plenty of exposure for the boys. But maybe not the right exposure. Its a shame these kids were treated like 2nd class citizens. However I think that's the case for all the long island teams at this age group.As Team 91 had 12/13 kids. I would recommend parents pass on "b" team cash cows for these clubs. You deserve better for $2k, spend it on a vacation.
2017 Black(Not Select) Doing best of best Legacy and NXT next 10 days , Not too shabby for them
Outlaw team showed up with 15 left with 14 and played hard all five games. After playing six games at Legacy on Saturday/Sunday.
Plenty of exposure for the boys. But maybe not the right exposure. Its a shame these kids were treated like 2nd class citizens. However I think that's the case for all the long island teams at this age group.As Team 91 had 12/13 kids. I would recommend parents pass on "b" team cash cows for these clubs. You deserve better for $2k, spend it on a vacation.
Best of Best and Legacy both had a lot of coaches, kids not showing up or backing out shows more about their commitment not the teams. For a B team that Outlaws select team beat up on 91 Titanium and is playing in some great tournaments. No complaints here.
2017 Black(Not Select) Doing best of best Legacy and NXT next 10 days , Not too shabby for them
Outlaw team showed up with 15 left with 14 and played hard all five games. After playing six games at Legacy on Saturday/Sunday.
Plenty of exposure for the boys. But maybe not the right exposure. Its a shame these kids were treated like 2nd class citizens. However I think that's the case for all the long island teams at this age group.As Team 91 had 12/13 kids. I would recommend parents pass on "b" team cash cows for these clubs. You deserve better for $2k, spend it on a vacation.
Best of Best and Legacy both had a lot of coaches, kids not showing up or backing out shows more about their commitment not the teams. For a B team that Outlaws select team beat up on 91 Titanium and is playing in some great tournaments. No complaints here.
Disagree, I heard a speech from Outlaw management that they had a group of 30 kids to play in 9 tournaments so kids could feel free to play with the High School teams (Ward Melville, Smithtown East, etc. at key tournaments. So I had an expectation that this would be managed by Coach. The result is 14 kids in Baltimore, 14 kids in Massachusetts, 14 kids at Lehigh. 25 at Long Island tourney's. The model doesn't work. So Parents just warning you before you make the commitment this fall, talk to the club owners and make them give you a written commitment that they will give you the service you paid for. (Especially Professional Coaching).
Improvements are needed, strive for a better product from these clubs. Hold them accountable.
This is every club... The sport has become toxic.
Not just club, school ball as well.
Below is from another thread: I Thought it might be applicable here too.
-{ "Wow, sounds like a bunch of jealous parents to me. I say congratulations to the kid and his family.
The rest of you need to get a grip and focus on your own kid and his/her deal..."}
--- "Couldn't agree more. The problem is that many parents refuse to honestly evaluate their children. Many become bitter and jealous and spew venom and hate at other children. They do it on this site, they do it on the sideline and they do it around town. When another child is having more success than their child they look to tear that child down anyway they can. Its ugly.
If the kid scores a lot of goals the jealous parents will call the player a "Ball Hog".
If the kid makes an "All Star / Elite / Top Club" team the bitter parents will say its only because his/her Dad knows the coaches.
If the kid commits to a Top 5 or 10 college the jealous parent will say the player will never get on the field.
If the kid commits to Harvard the bitter jealous parent will say my son/daughter doesn't want to go to an Ivy League School.
If the kid commits to a Big D-I School the jealous parents will say we are focusing on academics and looking at D-III schools.
If a kid is being actively recruited by a number of top programs the bitter jealous parents will say we are looking at ABC and XYZ and we visited XXX even though their kid is not being recruited by those schools.
It's never ending, on our sideline this past spring we had parents counting out loud the number of turnovers a player had. We have parents chirping loudly "Pass The Ball" however I never heard those words when the Jealous bitter parents child had the ball. If it were not so sad it would be funny.
Couple all of the hate and venom spewed with all of the [lacrosse] Kissing many of these parents do and you have a cesspool of a sideline. Does not matter if it is school or club, the [lacrosse] kissers are there. They will kiss the [lacrosse] of the coach, Club Director, AD, Assistant Coach, Spouse of the coach, Sibling of the coach, friend of the coach, anyone who they think can help. Have you ever noticed how certain parents always have a reason to talk to or email the coach? Even the ones who are bitter on the sideline, they make sure they put on the happy face just before their nose hits the coaches [lacrosse]. Love it when I see a kid who does not get the hype from the club or school get recruited (by top college programs) over the favored ones. All the [lacrosse] kissing from parents and the misguided efforts of a bad coach will not stop the college coaches from identifying the top athletes.
It's a mess. Hope your club and or town is different".
This is massively defensive point of view that is completely off base for this discussion. The discussion is about the annual futility of the long island representive to the underclass games. Who's going to say that year in and year out the talent is better than long island. Answer: nobody. So it must be the coaching and selection process. The results speak volumes that something is very amiss - either the kids play selfishly or not coached properly or too much talent left at home or all of the above.
This is not a thread about UA it is a High School lacrosse thread so anybody can post anything they want, the moderators can decide what is and isn't appropriate and the original post was relevant and interesting and thank you for posting it.
Anyone have any idea what type of rules changes might be suggested for 2016 I'm the boys game? I'm hearing that high schools mist not be adopting the new face off rules.