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Posted By: A Holl High School Lax - 01/06/15 03:45 PM
Does anyone know where I can find the Pre Season Conference/Division seedings?

Thank you!
Posted By: Anonymous Sayville Varsity coach - 10/02/15 09:58 PM
Does anyone have an update on the status of the Sayville varsity head coach? The Board of Education did not reinstate him and now the program is in limbo.

Any updates would be appreciated.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/03/15 01:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have an update on the status of the Sayville varsity head coach? The Board of Education did not reinstate him and now the program is in limbo.

Any updates would be appreciated.


That guy was such a tool. Good riddance. The program will be fine.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/03/15 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have an update on the status of the Sayville varsity head coach? The Board of Education did not reinstate him and now the program is in limbo.

Any updates would be appreciated.


That guy was such a tool. Good riddance. The program will be fine.

He will be back. No one has applied for the position.
Posted By: Gg1j18 Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/03/15 07:50 PM
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/04/15 03:08 AM
Originally Posted by Gg1j18
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/04/15 12:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Gg1j18
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.

If that is true I hope they find someone good to replace him. It's a pretty good program and you can't have some B of E, hand picked tool come in. (SWR 2 years ago). Going to be tough to get another coach to come in after the current coach was forced out.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/04/15 04:24 PM
He has built a pretty good program. A couple of county championships and a Long Island championship. They are always in the mix. How is he a tool?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/05/15 12:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Gg1j18
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.

If that is true I hope they find someone good to replace him. It's a pretty good program and you can't have some B of E, hand picked tool come in. (SWR 2 years ago). Going to be tough to get another coach to come in after the current coach was forced out.

Not really that hard. This is LI. It's not hard to find someone who knows the game. I don't really care because my son is a senior and he, along with many of the team, didn't like playing for him.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/05/15 01:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Gg1j18
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.

If that is true I hope they find someone good to replace him. It's a pretty good program and you can't have some B of E, hand picked tool come in. (SWR 2 years ago). Going to be tough to get another coach to come in after the current coach was forced out.

Not really that hard. This is LI. It's not hard to find someone who knows the game. I don't really care because my son is a senior and he, along with many of the team, didn't like playing for him.

No doubt there are plenty of guys that know the game, but you need to find one that has the time and schedule availability, to coach a HS team all year round. A 9-5 guy won't work.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/05/15 01:41 AM
No coach can make everyone happy! I know a lot of kids who loved him. He has been successful. I'm sure the kids who've won championships liked him and the many kids playing in college do too. What makes him a tool? Please don't say because he only plays his favorites because his favorites produce and that would be EVERY High School coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/05/15 01:50 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He has built a pretty good program. A couple of county championships and a Long Island championship. They are always in the mix. How is he a tool?


Exactly. Person calling him a tool probably has a kid that didn't get enough playing time!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/05/15 10:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He has built a pretty good program. A couple of county championships and a Long Island championship. They are always in the mix. How is he a tool?


Exactly. Person calling him a tool probably has a kid that didn't get enough playing time!


Most people in Sayville think very little of him. The exception being the starters on the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 01:27 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No coach can make everyone happy! I know a lot of kids who loved him. He has been successful. I'm sure the kids who've won championships liked him and the many kids playing in college do too. What makes him a tool? Please don't say because he only plays his favorites because his favorites produce and that would be EVERY High School coach.


Easy there, CD. Go have a few more drinks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 02:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He has built a pretty good program. A couple of county championships and a Long Island championship. They are always in the mix. How is he a tool?


Exactly. Person calling him a tool probably has a kid that didn't get enough playing time!


Most people in Sayville think very little of him. The exception being the starters on the team.


Einstein. If your son isn't starting or playing, obviously you're not going to be happy. Blame the coach, not your son of course or your DNA.

If you polled the alumni, I know they would have only good things to say about him. I'm one of them. I was challenged to be better than I thought I could be and its benefitted me in my post-athletics career. Losing someone who is so dedicated and driven to mold boys into men would be a real shame. Sayville.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 02:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Gg1j18
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.


What does a BoE know about coaching lacrosse?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 02:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Gg1j18
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.

If that is true I hope they find someone good to replace him. It's a pretty good program and you can't have some B of E, hand picked tool come in. (SWR 2 years ago). Going to be tough to get another coach to come in after the current coach was forced out.

Not really that hard. This is LI. It's not hard to find someone who knows the game. I don't really care because my son is a senior and he, along with many of the team, didn't like playing for him.


Knowing the game is 20% of the job if that much. You have to be committed. I didn't like my college coach when I played for him, he was tough, but I respected him and realized years later that he made me a better person. Lacrosse is not lollipops and gum drops and neither is the real world. The sooner kids learn this, the better off they will be.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 02:58 AM
No Mike....your son is junior...not a senior
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 05:20 AM
The exception being the starters on the team? Really the kids who aren't good enough and their parents don't like him? Here's a tip if they aren't good enough to start on a High School team they aren't very good! Sayville while a good program is a small school and has a small gene pool. Imagine if your non starter went to Ward Melville or Sachem. I guess that those coaches are tools too!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 11:08 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Gg1j18
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.


What does a BoE know about coaching lacrosse?


Not sure, but their responsibility goes beyond a mediocre lacrosse program. His actions repeatedly put the district in a bad position.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 11:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Gg1j18
So why will he be back?
If board choose not to reinstate him
Why would they change there minds


He won't be back. He essentially told the town that the board and superintendent were liars. They are steadfast in their refusal to bend on their stance.


What does a BoE know about coaching lacrosse?


Not sure, but their responsibility goes beyond a mediocre lacrosse program. His actions repeatedly put the district in a bad position.


How did his actions put the district in a "bad position"?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 02:50 PM
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.
Posted By: jackstraw Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 03:34 PM
What about the PW coach? Why did he leave?? Who is going to take his spot??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 03:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


I see that as acting as a member of the community for the community. What would you expect a committed coach to do. I applaud his stance. A lesser coach would have coward under the pressure.

I see the BOE as acting bad, if this is all the case. Shame on them!

Like a prior post said you cant make everyone happy but you need to see the leadership role he is trying to take. but he must remember you can only bite the hand that feeds you so many times!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 05:23 PM
Originally Posted by jackstraw
What about the PW coach? Why did he leave?? Who is going to take his spot??


Assuming part of it is to avoid coaching against his own kids at Syosset who are approaching the age to be on varsity in the next few years. Conflict of interest., etc etc
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by jackstraw
What about the PW coach? Why did he leave?? Who is going to take his spot??


Assuming part of it is to avoid coaching against his own kids at Syosset who are approaching the age to be on varsity in the next few years. Conflict of interest., etc etc


Where did this Port W news get announced?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 07:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.


Most have more then 1 assistant.
Posted By: jackstraw Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by jackstraw
What about the PW coach? Why did he leave?? Who is going to take his spot??


Assuming part of it is to avoid coaching against his own kids at Syosset who are approaching the age to be on varsity in the next few years. Conflict of interest., etc etc


Where did this Port W news get announced?


Grapevine. It's true though.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 10/06/15 07:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.


Wow. There seems to be some strong feelings on both sides of this one. For what it's worth, he's not a bad guy. He just comes across as being an arrogant guy, but when he gets to know you that falls away. As far as his coaching goes, he's coached my son in PAL for the last few years. I think he puts people in the best position to do well, but he doesn't really coach in a traditional sense. He doesn't stop and teach kids what they're doing wrong, just basically tells them they're doing something wrong and expects them to fix it themselves. The BOEs problem with him had nothing to do with with that though. If we're being completely honest, he had been getting under their skin for awhile. Many people complained to the board for years that they thought they were bullied into playing on that God-awful Spartans team he ran. Word got out that if kids didn't play Spartans they would never start in HS. Trust me, my guy played for 3 years and finished last year. It was a money grab sham. No need to go into anymore detail, but most parents felt the same way. People have also been saying that there was also issues with him using the gyms and school grounds for non-school training without permits. That puts the district in a liability issue. I think the last straw was the meeting about the asst. coach. When the budget went down the year before, the board had to make some serious cuts. They told all of the varsity coaches that assistant coaches would be cut the following year and gave them plenty of time to find raise to keep them. Most of the other coaches did that. I guess he forgot and, at the last minute, told the town that he just found out. It was kind of sleezy and everyone showed up and made a classless scene. That's the main deal. Like I said, I don't have a problem with him. He coached my son and my son likes him. But a lot of what's been written here is not really truthful.
Posted By: The Hop High School Lax - 10/06/15 08:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.


Wow. There seems to be some strong feelings on both sides of this one. For what it's worth, he's not a bad guy. He just comes across as being an arrogant guy, but when he gets to know you that falls away. As far as his coaching goes, he's coached my son in PAL for the last few years. I think he puts people in the best position to do well, but he doesn't really coach in a traditional sense. He doesn't stop and teach kids what they're doing wrong, just basically tells them they're doing something wrong and expects them to fix it themselves. The BOEs problem with him had nothing to do with with that though. If we're being completely honest, he had been getting under their skin for awhile. Many people complained to the board for years that they thought they were bullied into playing on that God-awful Spartans team he ran. Word got out that if kids didn't play Spartans they would never start in HS. Trust me, my guy played for 3 years and finished last year. It was a money grab sham. No need to go into anymore detail, but most parents felt the same way. People have also been saying that there was also issues with him using the gyms and school grounds for non-school training without permits. That puts the district in a liability issue. I think the last straw was the meeting about the asst. coach. When the budget went down the year before, the board had to make some serious cuts. They told all of the varsity coaches that assistant coaches would be cut the following year and gave them plenty of time to find raise to keep them. Most of the other coaches did that. I guess he forgot and, at the last minute, told the town that he just found out. It was kind of sleezy and everyone showed up and made a classless scene. That's the main deal. Like I said, I don't have a problem with him. He coached my son and my son likes him. But a lot of what's been written here is not really truthful.


Informative post. Thank you.
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 10/07/15 03:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.


Wow. There seems to be some strong feelings on both sides of this one. For what it's worth, he's not a bad guy. He just comes across as being an arrogant guy, but when he gets to know you that falls away. As far as his coaching goes, he's coached my son in PAL for the last few years. I think he puts people in the best position to do well, but he doesn't really coach in a traditional sense. He doesn't stop and teach kids what they're doing wrong, just basically tells them they're doing something wrong and expects them to fix it themselves. The BOEs problem with him had nothing to do with with that though. If we're being completely honest, he had been getting under their skin for awhile. Many people complained to the board for years that they thought they were bullied into playing on that God-awful Spartans team he ran. Word got out that if kids didn't play Spartans they would never start in HS. Trust me, my guy played for 3 years and finished last year. It was a money grab sham. No need to go into anymore detail, but most parents felt the same way. People have also been saying that there was also issues with him using the gyms and school grounds for non-school training without permits. That puts the district in a liability issue. I think the last straw was the meeting about the asst. coach. When the budget went down the year before, the board had to make some serious cuts. They told all of the varsity coaches that assistant coaches would be cut the following year and gave them plenty of time to find raise to keep them. Most of the other coaches did that. I guess he forgot and, at the last minute, told the town that he just found out. It was kind of sleezy and everyone showed up and made a classless scene. That's the main deal. Like I said, I don't have a problem with him. He coached my son and my son likes him. But a lot of what's been written here is not really truthful.


As a Sayville resident and parent of kids in the program, I take offense to your declarative post. You make a lot of supposedly factual claims. As it was explained to me, the Spartans Lacrosse club was supposed to mimic Three Village (Ward Melville) and West Islip providing a program where the Sayville kids could play together and build chemistry and gel at all levels. It works for Ward Melville and West Islip. You can't be serious with the statement "It was a money grab sham.." Compare the pricing with LI Express and Team 91, the math is simple.

"Word got out that if kids didn't play Spartans they would never start in HS..." Again, you really can't be serious. Anyone who has kids involved in the program knows FACTUALLY that your statement is inaccurate. Just look at the roster last season.

Regarding the budget cuts, there was nothing "sleazy" done by the coach. I was one of the parents who helped organize a retort to the inane "justification" for cutting the few thousand dollars required to pay an assistant coach. Getting organized and presenting an opposing view was not a "classless scene". If you know the facts, you know I am right and our reasoning was also valid.

Once again, the majority of parents and players think the coach has done a phenomenal job over the past 15+ years and a few malcontents complain enough to force change when change is not necessary nor will it benefit the program. Mark my words.
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 10/07/15 05:16 PM
since we are talking about high school lax can anyone let me know what new rules will be in forced this year in the girls game. i know the shot clock is not one of them but is the new 3 sec rule? what about doing away with the throw on offsetting fouls? there are a few others as well. also i was told there is a new division alignment for the girls is there a new breakout?
thanks for the help
Posted By: The Hop High School Lax - 10/07/15 07:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.


Wow. There seems to be some strong feelings on both sides of this one. For what it's worth, he's not a bad guy. He just comes across as being an arrogant guy, but when he gets to know you that falls away. As far as his coaching goes, he's coached my son in PAL for the last few years. I think he puts people in the best position to do well, but he doesn't really coach in a traditional sense. He doesn't stop and teach kids what they're doing wrong, just basically tells them they're doing something wrong and expects them to fix it themselves. The BOEs problem with him had nothing to do with with that though. If we're being completely honest, he had been getting under their skin for awhile. Many people complained to the board for years that they thought they were bullied into playing on that God-awful Spartans team he ran. Word got out that if kids didn't play Spartans they would never start in HS. Trust me, my guy played for 3 years and finished last year. It was a money grab sham. No need to go into anymore detail, but most parents felt the same way. People have also been saying that there was also issues with him using the gyms and school grounds for non-school training without permits. That puts the district in a liability issue. I think the last straw was the meeting about the asst. coach. When the budget went down the year before, the board had to make some serious cuts. They told all of the varsity coaches that assistant coaches would be cut the following year and gave them plenty of time to find raise to keep them. Most of the other coaches did that. I guess he forgot and, at the last minute, told the town that he just found out. It was kind of sleezy and everyone showed up and made a classless scene. That's the main deal. Like I said, I don't have a problem with him. He coached my son and my son likes him. But a lot of what's been written here is not really truthful.


As a Sayville resident and parent of kids in the program, I take offense to your declarative post. You make a lot of supposedly factual claims. As it was explained to me, the Spartans Lacrosse club was supposed to mimic Three Village (Ward Melville) and West Islip providing a program where the Sayville kids could play together and build chemistry and gel at all levels. It works for Ward Melville and West Islip. You can't be serious with the statement "It was a money grab sham.." Compare the pricing with LI Express and Team 91, the math is simple.

"Word got out that if kids didn't play Spartans they would never start in HS..." Again, you really can't be serious. Anyone who has kids involved in the program knows FACTUALLY that your statement is inaccurate. Just look at the roster last season.

Regarding the budget cuts, there was nothing "sleazy" done by the coach. I was one of the parents who helped organize a retort to the inane "justification" for cutting the few thousand dollars required to pay an assistant coach. Getting organized and presenting an opposing view was not a "classless scene". If you know the facts, you know I am right and our reasoning was also valid.

Once again, the majority of parents and players think the coach has done a phenomenal job over the past 15+ years and a few malcontents complain enough to force change when change is not necessary nor will it benefit the program. Mark my words.


Unfortunately the malcontents have power nowadays for some reason. Their voice seems to be worth more than the majority.
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 10/07/15 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.


Wow. There seems to be some strong feelings on both sides of this one. For what it's worth, he's not a bad guy. He just comes across as being an arrogant guy, but when he gets to know you that falls away. As far as his coaching goes, he's coached my son in PAL for the last few years. I think he puts people in the best position to do well, but he doesn't really coach in a traditional sense. He doesn't stop and teach kids what they're doing wrong, just basically tells them they're doing something wrong and expects them to fix it themselves. The BOEs problem with him had nothing to do with with that though. If we're being completely honest, he had been getting under their skin for awhile. Many people complained to the board for years that they thought they were bullied into playing on that God-awful Spartans team he ran. Word got out that if kids didn't play Spartans they would never start in HS. Trust me, my guy played for 3 years and finished last year. It was a money grab sham. No need to go into anymore detail, but most parents felt the same way. People have also been saying that there was also issues with him using the gyms and school grounds for non-school training without permits. That puts the district in a liability issue. I think the last straw was the meeting about the asst. coach. When the budget went down the year before, the board had to make some serious cuts. They told all of the varsity coaches that assistant coaches would be cut the following year and gave them plenty of time to find raise to keep them. Most of the other coaches did that. I guess he forgot and, at the last minute, told the town that he just found out. It was kind of sleezy and everyone showed up and made a classless scene. That's the main deal. Like I said, I don't have a problem with him. He coached my son and my son likes him. But a lot of what's been written here is not really truthful.


As a Sayville resident and parent of kids in the program, I take offense to your declarative post. You make a lot of supposedly factual claims. As it was explained to me, the Spartans Lacrosse club was supposed to mimic Three Village (Ward Melville) and West Islip providing a program where the Sayville kids could play together and build chemistry and gel at all levels. It works for Ward Melville and West Islip. You can't be serious with the statement "It was a money grab sham.." Compare the pricing with LI Express and Team 91, the math is simple.

"Word got out that if kids didn't play Spartans they would never start in HS..." Again, you really can't be serious. Anyone who has kids involved in the program knows FACTUALLY that your statement is inaccurate. Just look at the roster last season.

Regarding the budget cuts, there was nothing "sleazy" done by the coach. I was one of the parents who helped organize a retort to the inane "justification" for cutting the few thousand dollars required to pay an assistant coach. Getting organized and presenting an opposing view was not a "classless scene". If you know the facts, you know I am right and our reasoning was also valid.

Once again, the majority of parents and players think the coach has done a phenomenal job over the past 15+ years and a few malcontents complain enough to force change when change is not necessary nor will it benefit the program. Mark my words.


Someone's been drinking way too much purple Kool Aid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/09/15 01:42 AM
How could Spartans be a Money grab when it cost less than $800 including tournament fees, and when 91 came calling and offered him big $$ to buy him out 7 years ago and let him continue to run it for a salary he declined.

Also how could he not start a kid for not playing Spartans when he has like 16-18 kids on the varsity team the last 2 years?

Many of the people who are angry with are the Sayville "royalty" who have grown up in Sayville and are used to getting their way, and when their kids where asked to play in their appropriate age group or their kid got the appropriate playing time they cried and complained that he wasn't fair because it wasn't tilted in their kids favor (the only way these "Sayville Royalty" people see things as being fair)

** Sayville Royalty are the self entitled people who grew up in Sayville and their parents did something special in Sayville so they think that everything in Sayville should revolve around them and they and their kids should be put on a pedestal like they were when they were children in school. They think it is OK to storm onto football fields during HS football games to scream at coaches and challenge coaches and scheme behind peoples back to get them fired.
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 10/09/15 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.


Wow. There seems to be some strong feelings on both sides of this one. For what it's worth, he's not a bad guy. He just comes across as being an arrogant guy, but when he gets to know you that falls away. As far as his coaching goes, he's coached my son in PAL for the last few years. I think he puts people in the best position to do well, but he doesn't really coach in a traditional sense. He doesn't stop and teach kids what they're doing wrong, just basically tells them they're doing something wrong and expects them to fix it themselves. The BOEs problem with him had nothing to do with with that though. If we're being completely honest, he had been getting under their skin for awhile. Many people complained to the board for years that they thought they were bullied into playing on that God-awful Spartans team he ran. Word got out that if kids didn't play Spartans they would never start in HS. Trust me, my guy played for 3 years and finished last year. It was a money grab sham. No need to go into anymore detail, but most parents felt the same way. People have also been saying that there was also issues with him using the gyms and school grounds for non-school training without permits. That puts the district in a liability issue. I think the last straw was the meeting about the asst. coach. When the budget went down the year before, the board had to make some serious cuts. They told all of the varsity coaches that assistant coaches would be cut the following year and gave them plenty of time to find raise to keep them. Most of the other coaches did that. I guess he forgot and, at the last minute, told the town that he just found out. It was kind of sleezy and everyone showed up and made a classless scene. That's the main deal. Like I said, I don't have a problem with him. He coached my son and my son likes him. But a lot of what's been written here is not really truthful.

They actually did tell him that they JV coach was cut and that coach was informed months before. The Varsity asst. was a decision made in January early febraury of '15 and the coach was told in early Feb. When the budget was review the Varsity Asst. coach was in fact list in the budget, and should not of been cut. The animosity at the board meeting grew from the Superintendent for Business Rolling his eyes at the parent who pointed this out to him and calling him out on it. At that point it got ugly. The business super inflamed the situation with is attitude and led to the ugliness that ensued.
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 10/09/15 12:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He put the BOE in a bad position by sending out emails to the lacrosse community when they tried to cut his and the JV assistant coach positions. The community turned out in force to the BOE meeting. They were definitely pissed off at that but reinstated the coaches for the season. After taking the team to the county final he was let go for ambiguous reasons. Everyone knows it's because he stood up to the BOE! Please correct me if I am wrong but that's NOT putting the District in a bad position.


The BOE put coach D, the lacrosse program and the community in a "bad position" by trying to force him to coach a top level Varsity team without assistant coaches. The BOE should be ashamed. Name another LI program that doesn't have an assistant coach? I think the Board forgot who they serve-the Sayville community.


Wow. There seems to be some strong feelings on both sides of this one. For what it's worth, he's not a bad guy. He just comes across as being an arrogant guy, but when he gets to know you that falls away. As far as his coaching goes, he's coached my son in PAL for the last few years. I think he puts people in the best position to do well, but he doesn't really coach in a traditional sense. He doesn't stop and teach kids what they're doing wrong, just basically tells them they're doing something wrong and expects them to fix it themselves. The BOEs problem with him had nothing to do with with that though. If we're being completely honest, he had been getting under their skin for awhile. Many people complained to the board for years that they thought they were bullied into playing on that God-awful Spartans team he ran. Word got out that if kids didn't play Spartans they would never start in HS. Trust me, my guy played for 3 years and finished last year. It was a money grab sham. No need to go into anymore detail, but most parents felt the same way. People have also been saying that there was also issues with him using the gyms and school grounds for non-school training without permits. That puts the district in a liability issue. I think the last straw was the meeting about the asst. coach. When the budget went down the year before, the board had to make some serious cuts. They told all of the varsity coaches that assistant coaches would be cut the following year and gave them plenty of time to find raise to keep them. Most of the other coaches did that. I guess he forgot and, at the last minute, told the town that he just found out. It was kind of sleezy and everyone showed up and made a classless scene. That's the main deal. Like I said, I don't have a problem with him. He coached my son and my son likes him. But a lot of what's been written here is not really truthful.

They actually did tell him that they JV coach was cut and that coach was informed months before. The Varsity asst. was a decision made in January early febraury of '15 and the coach was told in early Feb. When the budget was review the Varsity Asst. coach was in fact list in the budget, and should not of been cut. The animosity at the board meeting grew from the Superintendent for Business Rolling his eyes at the parent who pointed this out to him and calling him out on it. At that point it got ugly. The business super inflamed the situation with is attitude and led to the ugliness that ensued.


The real shame is you people won't help your kids by forcing a coaches removal. When they get to the real world, Mommy and Daddy won't be able to manipulate work place situations. Too many kids come into my firm with a sense of entitlement, they don't last long. We actually received a phone call from a father who wanted to know why his son was let go. He was told employment issues are not discussed with parents. Sad.

Do your son a favor and encourage him to work harder, get in top physical condition and strive to be the best player and person he can be. If he still falls short and doesn't start, so be it. Let him learn to cope and mature by experiencing failure. Its good for him in the long run. In the mean time, you and the other tar and feather parents have damaged the Sayville lacrosse experience for all of the other players on the team this year and in the future.

Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 10/09/15 12:33 PM
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/09/15 01:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/09/15 01:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Nothing brings you more joy than watching kids get dominated? You have no soul.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/09/15 02:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/09/15 03:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.


Listen Mr. M, we're on the same side of the fence on this one. I never asked for, or even thought about, the coach being removed. But calling out people just because their family has strong roots in the community is just plain stupid. I fall into that category. So do many of my friends and our children. I've never, ever, exhibited the aforementioned characteristics and take great offense to them. If you're going to throw stones, be careful that your aim is good or you may alienate yourself even more.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/09/15 06:18 PM
I have been watching this post with some interest as I am a Sayville resident. My son has not played for Coach D yet as he is in Middle School. My son has gone to some of the clinics and Coach has been nothing but nice to him and to me for that matter.My son plays for a very competitive travel team which pulls kids from all over the island, we even have a kid from NJ playing with us. Coach asked us to play for the Spartans and we declined. I told him my son will play for you someday and you will get a better player if he's playing with and against better competition. He agreed but still breaks chops when I run into him in town. Sayville is a great little town with great sports programs across the board. There's nothing wrong with being proud of that. Is there a little bit of I'm a native and you're not? Sure but all in good fun and if your kid can play believe me,they will gladly cheer for him (HS QB). I don't know the mans coaching style. I do think that he cares about the kids and the program has been successful. There will always be people that are unhappy with a coach especially if their kid's not playing. That happens everywhere. I went to Smithtown East and played lax there. It's a big school they graduate around 750 kids a year. Last year the lacrosse team had 14 D1 commits. Ten kids start. That means four backups are going to D1. Never mind the kids who are D2 or 3 caliber. Be happy that you live in a small nice little town and your kid ( who wouldn't see the field some places) gets to compete in a game he loves for a while longer. I don't think that a coach should lose his job over something like annoying a school board.IMHO
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/09/15 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.


Listen Mr. M, we're on the same side of the fence on this one. I never asked for, or even thought about, the coach being removed. But calling out people just because their family has strong roots in the community is just plain stupid. I fall into that category. So do many of my friends and our children. I've never, ever, exhibited the aforementioned characteristics and take great offense to them. If you're going to throw stones, be careful that your aim is good or you may alienate yourself even more.


Really? Then who will stand up for Coach D and the program?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/09/15 06:27 PM
Will Sayville be the next.... SWR or ESM from years past!?!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/09/15 11:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.


Listen Mr. M, we're on the same side of the fence on this one. I never asked for, or even thought about, the coach being removed. But calling out people just because their family has strong roots in the community is just plain stupid. I fall into that category. So do many of my friends and our children. I've never, ever, exhibited the aforementioned characteristics and take great offense to them. If you're going to throw stones, be careful that your aim is good or you may alienate yourself even more.


Really? Then who will stand up for Coach D and the program?


Is there any chance Coach D will be rehired?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/10/15 11:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Sayville be the next.... SWR or ESM from years past!?!


What do you mean by that? Slipping into mediocrity?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/13/15 12:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.


Listen Mr. M, we're on the same side of the fence on this one. I never asked for, or even thought about, the coach being removed. But calling out people just because their family has strong roots in the community is just plain stupid. I fall into that category. So do many of my friends and our children. I've never, ever, exhibited the aforementioned characteristics and take great offense to them. If you're going to throw stones, be careful that your aim is good or you may alienate yourself even more.


If you never even thought of Coach D being removed and after careful consideration, its agreed he is the best man for the job, how do we get him reinstated? As far as I know, a new coach hasn't been chosen so we don't have to skip a beat. I think we all know what's going on here, culpability. Who is to blame for the situation in which we find ourselves. We had opposing egos butt heads and the Superintendent and Board wanted to flex their muscles. We all get it. Now its time to do what's right for the program and our kids. Bill Tierney is not walking through the door so reinstate Coach D.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/13/15 01:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will Sayville be the next.... SWR or ESM from years past!?!


What do you mean by that? Slipping into mediocrity?


Turning BOTC into your forum to let the LI community know what the community is like. Do it the right way Sayville.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/14/15 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.


Listen Mr. M, we're on the same side of the fence on this one. I never asked for, or even thought about, the coach being removed. But calling out people just because their family has strong roots in the community is just plain stupid. I fall into that category. So do many of my friends and our children. I've never, ever, exhibited the aforementioned characteristics and take great offense to them. If you're going to throw stones, be careful that your aim is good or you may alienate yourself even more.


If you never even thought of Coach D being removed and after careful consideration, its agreed he is the best man for the job, how do we get him reinstated? As far as I know, a new coach hasn't been chosen so we don't have to skip a beat. I think we all know what's going on here, culpability. Who is to blame for the situation in which we find ourselves. We had opposing egos butt heads and the Superintendent and Board wanted to flex their muscles. We all get it. Now its time to do what's right for the program and our kids. Bill Tierney is not walking through the door so reinstate Coach D.


Pal, none of these people will rally to support Coach D, they like to complain, [lacrosse] and moan all behind closed doors. "My son doesn't start, its' the coaches fault...." You must be new to this lacrosse scene. Or you are a rational person who sees what is right and wrong and feel the need to post.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/15/15 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.


Listen Mr. M, we're on the same side of the fence on this one. I never asked for, or even thought about, the coach being removed. But calling out people just because their family has strong roots in the community is just plain stupid. I fall into that category. So do many of my friends and our children. I've never, ever, exhibited the aforementioned characteristics and take great offense to them. If you're going to throw stones, be careful that your aim is good or you may alienate yourself even more.


If you never even thought of Coach D being removed and after careful consideration, its agreed he is the best man for the job, how do we get him reinstated? As far as I know, a new coach hasn't been chosen so we don't have to skip a beat. I think we all know what's going on here, culpability. Who is to blame for the situation in which we find ourselves. We had opposing egos butt heads and the Superintendent and Board wanted to flex their muscles. We all get it. Now its time to do what's right for the program and our kids. Bill Tierney is not walking through the door so reinstate Coach D.


I'm pretty certain that his replacement has been found. I assume it will be announced at the next board meeting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/15/15 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.


Listen Mr. M, we're on the same side of the fence on this one. I never asked for, or even thought about, the coach being removed. But calling out people just because their family has strong roots in the community is just plain stupid. I fall into that category. So do many of my friends and our children. I've never, ever, exhibited the aforementioned characteristics and take great offense to them. If you're going to throw stones, be careful that your aim is good or you may alienate yourself even more.


If you never even thought of Coach D being removed and after careful consideration, its agreed he is the best man for the job, how do we get him reinstated? As far as I know, a new coach hasn't been chosen so we don't have to skip a beat. I think we all know what's going on here, culpability. Who is to blame for the situation in which we find ourselves. We had opposing egos butt heads and the Superintendent and Board wanted to flex their muscles. We all get it. Now its time to do what's right for the program and our kids. Bill Tierney is not walking through the door so reinstate Coach D.


I'm pretty certain that his replacement has been found. I assume it will be announced at the next board meeting.


How do know anything about this process? When is the next board meeting? I'll be in attendance and will certainly share my feelings on the matter.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/16/15 12:42 AM
who will win the girls A,b,c division this year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/16/15 11:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who will win the girls A,b,c division this year


Newfield
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/16/15 03:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who will win the girls A,b,c division this year


Sayville. They kept their girls coach!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/16/15 03:54 PM
MC
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/16/15 04:00 PM
Centereach
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/16/15 05:22 PM
Does anyone know if there are any schools that just have a Varsity Girls team? Our school probably wont have enough for 2 teams and I am wondering if they will try and keep just varsity and cancel JV
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/16/15 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know if there are any schools that just have a Varsity Girls team? Our school probably wont have enough for 2 teams and I am wondering if they will try and keep just varsity and cancel JV


They will probably pull up from MS to fill out jv
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/16/15 07:26 PM
Bayport
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/17/15 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.


Listen Mr. M, we're on the same side of the fence on this one. I never asked for, or even thought about, the coach being removed. But calling out people just because their family has strong roots in the community is just plain stupid. I fall into that category. So do many of my friends and our children. I've never, ever, exhibited the aforementioned characteristics and take great offense to them. If you're going to throw stones, be careful that your aim is good or you may alienate yourself even more.


Really? Then who will stand up for Coach D and the program?


Is there any chance Coach D will be rehired?


If enough people show up to the next Board of Ed meeting to voice their opinions, then the answer is yes. The Board should represent the citizens of the town/ district that employs them. If they need to hear from us, we need to show up and express our indignation with what has been done thus far and ensure the wrong is righted. Similar to the meeting before last spring season. I think they have dragged the process out over time expecting us to lose interest, well I have not lost interest. In fact, I am more emboldened to be as proactive as possible. I hope the people who caused this to happen in the first place show up and publicly express their opinions and wishes. But, we all know that will never happen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/17/15 07:42 PM
Bayport does look strong. Miller is fantastic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/17/15 09:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bayport does look strong. Miller is fantastic.


Class C, Bayport does look good, about the same as last year, the big change this year has more to do with Mt. Sinai, they have certainly weakened. Enough for Bayport to contend? Not so sure.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/20/15 04:43 PM
who is coaching port Washington HS now that Coach Rooney left for HHH?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/20/15 07:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is coaching port Washington HS now that Coach Rooney left for HHH?

West? Or East for Rooney?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/20/15 07:57 PM
West
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/20/15 08:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bayport does look strong. Miller is fantastic.


Class C, Bayport does look good, about the same as last year, the big change this year has more to do with Mt. Sinai, they have certainly weakened. Enough for Bayport to contend? Not so sure.


Thanks Bert!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/21/15 12:38 AM
Interested to know how many of you think your HS coach or athletic administration should be fired.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/21/15 11:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interested to know how many of you think your HS coach or athletic administration should be fired.


Yes, in our district AD and coaches should be fired.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/21/15 12:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interested to know how many of you think your HS coach or athletic administration should be fired.


Yes, in our district AD and coaches should be fired.

What district?? Reasons???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/21/15 12:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interested to know how many of you think your HS coach or athletic administration should be fired.


Yes, in our district AD and coaches should be fired.


Coach was fired a couple of years ago. AD is a zero, collecting a paycheck and fattening up his pension, much like his waistline... Our AD is absolutely useless. Tenure is an awful thing.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/21/15 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Interested to know how many of you think your HS coach or athletic administration should be fired.


Our district should get rid of the Ad and some other position which is like the head of Athletics. An Ad should make sure his house is in order. There are always two concerns when it comes to kids and sports winning on the field and winning in life.

As an AD you must first try to win on the field/court as an AD. If you can win on the field then you make sure your players are winners in life. If your players cannot win on the field and you are in one of the biggest districts on LI you need to be fired. You are doing something wrong.

Now if you have an Ad and another position which is in charge of sports and you are still losing in sports and your athletes are not the best of people, you don't twiddle your thumbs and say it is what it is. You work to make the community better by athletics. THATS YOUR JOB.

In my district, Both people need to be fired and the BOE needs to step in and be held accountable. In my district an athlete is going to die either on the field or off in the streets before it gets better.

In my day the AD was a friend a mentor and someone who you were scared $hitless of. The AD would also do anything for their athletes.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/21/15 06:25 PM
Should this be renamed the Sayville thread and open another one for HighSchool lax? San Andreas High School Football Rules!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville thread - 10/21/15 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should this be renamed the Sayville thread and open another one for HighSchool lax? San Andreas High School Football Rules!


Hows that. Anyone can change the thread name.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville thread - 10/21/15 07:42 PM
in January this was names High School Lax, then in Oct there came about some uneasiness at Sayville and the header Re: was changed to Sayville.

This thread should be used to bring up issues if they take a life of their own then they should branch out to a new thread.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/21/15 09:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Should this be renamed the Sayville thread and open another one for HighSchool lax? San Andreas High School Football Rules!


William S Preston Esquire and Theodore "Ted" Logan... The Wyld Stallians!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville thread - 10/22/15 01:16 AM
New coach at SJB?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville thread - 10/22/15 02:45 AM
What's the difference between a fully funded school and one that is not fully funded and how does it affect schorships? Thank you
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville thread - 10/22/15 02:58 AM
San Dimas High School Football rules, but thanks for the laugh
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville thread - 10/22/15 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
in January this was names High School Lax, then in Oct there came about some uneasiness at Sayville and the header Re: was changed to Sayville.

This thread should be used to bring up issues if they take a life of their own then they should branch out to a new thread.


The header was never changed until someone suggested it should (take a look) and you must be aware that acute issues will dominate this board when they flare up. Do you have an issue to vet or do you just want to take up space and whine?
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 10/22/15 03:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
in January this was names High School Lax, then in Oct there came about some uneasiness at Sayville and the header Re: was changed to Sayville.

This thread should be used to bring up issues if they take a life of their own then they should branch out to a new thread.


The header was never changed until someone suggested it should (take a look) and you must be aware that acute issues will dominate this board when they flare up. Do you have an issue to vet or do you just want to take up space and whine?


That was simple
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 10/22/15 05:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
in January this was names High School Lax, then in Oct there came about some uneasiness at Sayville and the header Re: was changed to Sayville.

This thread should be used to bring up issues if they take a life of their own then they should branch out to a new thread.


The header was never changed until someone suggested it should (take a look) and you must be aware that acute issues will dominate this board when they flare up. Do you have an issue to vet or do you just want to take up space and whine?


I guess whine. I needed a snickers! They asked to change the name. I did. proving it was a simple thing to do. But I also believe it should remain with the HS Lax header and the one offs should have their own thread if they take on a life of its own.
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 10/23/15 12:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
in January this was names High School Lax, then in Oct there came about some uneasiness at Sayville and the header Re: was changed to Sayville.

This thread should be used to bring up issues if they take a life of their own then they should branch out to a new thread.


The header was never changed until someone suggested it should (take a look) and you must be aware that acute issues will dominate this board when they flare up. Do you have an issue to vet or do you just want to take up space and whine?


I guess whine. I needed a snickers! They asked to change the name. I did. proving it was a simple thing to do. But I also believe it should remain with the HS Lax header and the one offs should have their own thread if they take on a life of its own.


I think the acute issues that flare up should remain on the HS thread so anyone interested in HS programs can follow the issues and learn what's happening outside their district. I have learned a lot by reading about others issues.

The Sayville issue is one I want to follow. What if my towns very popular and successful coach was targeted by the Board or a Board member? What recourse do I have as a resident? We are a few towns over but we know [lacrosse] successful the Sayville program has been. If that coach can be removed because of a disgruntled board member and the parents are powerless to stop it. It can happen to us.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/23/15 01:06 PM
Just look at one angry resident turned board member did over in SWR to Coach Rotanz. Doesn't matter how good your coach is, if you get one angry parent who can get enough people behind them they can destroy anything.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
in January this was names High School Lax, then in Oct there came about some uneasiness at Sayville and the header Re: was changed to Sayville.

This thread should be used to bring up issues if they take a life of their own then they should branch out to a new thread.


The header was never changed until someone suggested it should (take a look) and you must be aware that acute issues will dominate this board when they flare up. Do you have an issue to vet or do you just want to take up space and whine?


I guess whine. I needed a snickers! They asked to change the name. I did. proving it was a simple thing to do. But I also believe it should remain with the HS Lax header and the one offs should have their own thread if they take on a life of its own.


I think the acute issues that flare up should remain on the HS thread so anyone interested in HS programs can follow the issues and learn what's happening outside their district. I have learned a lot by reading about others issues.

The Sayville issue is one I want to follow. What if my towns very popular and successful coach was targeted by the Board or a Board member? What recourse do I have as a resident? We are a few towns over but we know [lacrosse] successful the Sayville program has been. If that coach can be removed because of a disgruntled board member and the parents are powerless to stop it. It can happen to us.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/23/15 01:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just look at one angry resident turned board member did over in SWR to Coach Rotanz. Doesn't matter how good your coach is, if you get one angry parent who can get enough people behind them they can destroy anything.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
in January this was names High School Lax, then in Oct there came about some uneasiness at Sayville and the header Re: was changed to Sayville.

This thread should be used to bring up issues if they take a life of their own then they should branch out to a new thread.


We have the opposite in our community. Very few if any players or parents are happy with the coaches. People are afraid to voice their concerns because they believe doing so will negatively impact their child. Many in the community wish the BOE step in and make some changes.

The header was never changed until someone suggested it should (take a look) and you must be aware that acute issues will dominate this board when they flare up. Do you have an issue to vet or do you just want to take up space and whine?


I guess whine. I needed a snickers! They asked to change the name. I did. proving it was a simple thing to do. But I also believe it should remain with the HS Lax header and the one offs should have their own thread if they take on a life of its own.


I think the acute issues that flare up should remain on the HS thread so anyone interested in HS programs can follow the issues and learn what's happening outside their district. I have learned a lot by reading about others issues.

The Sayville issue is one I want to follow. What if my towns very popular and successful coach was targeted by the Board or a Board member? What recourse do I have as a resident? We are a few towns over but we know [lacrosse] successful the Sayville program has been. If that coach can be removed because of a disgruntled board member and the parents are powerless to stop it. It can happen to us.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/23/15 01:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just look at one angry resident turned board member did over in SWR to Coach Rotanz. Doesn't matter how good your coach is, if you get one angry parent who can get enough people behind them they can destroy anything.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
in January this was names High School Lax, then in Oct there came about some uneasiness at Sayville and the header Re: was changed to Sayville.

This thread should be used to bring up issues if they take a life of their own then they should branch out to a new thread.


The header was never changed until someone suggested it should (take a look) and you must be aware that acute issues will dominate this board when they flare up. Do you have an issue to vet or do you just want to take up space and whine?


I guess whine. I needed a snickers! They asked to change the name. I did. proving it was a simple thing to do. But I also believe it should remain with the HS Lax header and the one offs should have their own thread if they take on a life of its own.


I think the acute issues that flare up should remain on the HS thread so anyone interested in HS programs can follow the issues and learn what's happening outside their district. I have learned a lot by reading about others issues.

The Sayville issue is one I want to follow. What if my towns very popular and successful coach was targeted by the Board or a Board member? What recourse do I have as a resident? We are a few towns over but we know [lacrosse] successful the Sayville program has been. If that coach can be removed because of a disgruntled board member and the parents are powerless to stop it. It can happen to us.


Coach Rotanz at SWR is a perfect example. Why are board members permitted to destroy programs for personal reasons without recourse? We as residents should be able to call for a resident vote when such issues are so obviously personal and contentious. Maybe an attorney can weigh in here?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/23/15 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just look at one angry resident turned board member did over in SWR to Coach Rotanz. Doesn't matter how good your coach is, if you get one angry parent who can get enough people behind them they can destroy anything.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
in January this was names High School Lax, then in Oct there came about some uneasiness at Sayville and the header Re: was changed to Sayville.

This thread should be used to bring up issues if they take a life of their own then they should branch out to a new thread.


The header was never changed until someone suggested it should (take a look) and you must be aware that acute issues will dominate this board when they flare up. Do you have an issue to vet or do you just want to take up space and whine?


I guess whine. I needed a snickers! They asked to change the name. I did. proving it was a simple thing to do. But I also believe it should remain with the HS Lax header and the one offs should have their own thread if they take on a life of its own.


I think the acute issues that flare up should remain on the HS thread so anyone interested in HS programs can follow the issues and learn what's happening outside their district. I have learned a lot by reading about others issues.

The Sayville issue is one I want to follow. What if my towns very popular and successful coach was targeted by the Board or a Board member? What recourse do I have as a resident? We are a few towns over but we know [lacrosse] successful the Sayville program has been. If that coach can be removed because of a disgruntled board member and the parents are powerless to stop it. It can happen to us.


Coach Rotanz at SWR is a perfect example. Why are board members permitted to destroy programs for personal reasons without recourse? We as residents should be able to call for a resident vote when such issues are so obviously personal and contentious. Maybe an attorney can weigh in here?


You do have a resident vote. You voted during school elections to give the board power to make decisions. You get the government you vote for and you have to live with it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/23/15 03:52 PM
Smithtown with its supposedly top notch program, no longer has a JV team!! What is that about? Can somebody please give insight? No notice was given so we could at least look for an outside team. It's so sad all these kids want to do is play. Now they are just brushed under the rug like they don't matter. Where are their HS memories?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/23/15 04:50 PM
I don't believe it is "supposedly top notch" when you look at the results and current players playing at the next level. Smithtown is a top notch program
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/23/15 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smithtown with its supposedly top notch program, no longer has a JV team!! What is that about? Can somebody please give insight? No notice was given so we could at least look for an outside team. It's so sad all these kids want to do is play. Now they are just brushed under the rug like they don't matter. Where are their HS memories?


Your talking about Team Smithtown not associated with the school.
Posted By: acblax Re: High School Lax - 10/23/15 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smithtown with its supposedly top notch program, no longer has a JV team!! What is that about? Can somebody please give insight? No notice was given so we could at least look for an outside team. It's so sad all these kids want to do is play. Now they are just brushed under the rug like they don't matter. Where are their HS memories?


Your talking about Team Smithtown.. Most of the kids already play on travel teams, so most kids didn't want to play on both. They also still have the school team and are doing tournaments with that.
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 10/24/15 10:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's the difference between a fully funded school and one that is not fully funded and how does it affect schorships? Thank you


Fully funded means the school "fully funds" the 12.5 full scholarships for the team. Assuming the school costs $50,000 per year. 12.5 x $50,000 = $625,000 in athletic money for 45 plus players per year. Approximately $14,000 per year per player, if distributed equally. Some will get $1,500 per year, others will get $25,000. With a school that isn't fully funded, it means there's just less money available.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/24/15 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's the difference between a fully funded school and one that is not fully funded and how does it affect schorships? Thank you


Fully funded means the school "fully funds" the 12.5 full scholarships for the team. Assuming the school costs $50,000 per year. 12.5 x $50,000 = $625,000 in athletic money for 45 plus players per year. Approximately $14,000 per year per player, if distributed equally. Some will get $1,500 per year, others will get $25,000. With a school that isn't fully funded, it means there's just less money available.


Thank you very much
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/25/15 12:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's the difference between a fully funded school and one that is not fully funded and how does it affect schorships? Thank you


Fully funded means the school "fully funds" the 12.5 full scholarships for the team. Assuming the school costs $50,000 per year. 12.5 x $50,000 = $625,000 in athletic money for 45 plus players per year. Approximately $14,000 per year per player, if distributed equally. Some will get $1,500 per year, others will get $25,000. With a school that isn't fully funded, it means there's just less money available.


Fully funded still carries an odd connotation. The cost of a scholarship to the school is not the actual tuition/room and board that they charge a student, there is a margin. The cost to the school would be the above line gross cost (COG). The school doesn't hand the student-athlete the money and bill the student for the tuition, etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/25/15 02:50 AM
There are tons of committed kids going to schools for essentially book money. Rosters are expanding and funding is going down.

Attendance for the final 4 has been down for 7 consecutive years after peaking in 2007 at 100k and ending up this year with just 50k. These numbers have everyone concerned and are directly tied to deciding who will continue to fully fund there programs. Great articles in the NY times talking about the only people that seem to care are the parents of players and recruits while the casual fan has been turned off from the game.

Growth rates are also down off the highs of 16% down to just 3.5% the last two years.

The game needs help expanding spectator interest.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/25/15 03:09 AM
Yeah you need more division 1 men's programs. You need some big schools like the PAC 10 getting men's lax programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/25/15 03:13 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's the difference between a fully funded school and one that is not fully funded and how does it affect schorships? Thank you


Fully funded means the school "fully funds" the 12.5 full scholarships for the team. Assuming the school costs $50,000 per year. 12.5 x $50,000 = $625,000 in athletic money for 45 plus players per year. Approximately $14,000 per year per player, if distributed equally. Some will get $1,500 per year, others will get $25,000. With a school that isn't fully funded, it means there's just less money available.


Fully funded still carries an odd connotation. The cost of a scholarship to the school is not the actual tuition/room and board that they charge a student, there is a margin. The cost to the school would be the above line gross cost (COG). The school doesn't hand the student-athlete the money and bill the student for the tuition, etc.


Ok there Price Waterhouse... Thanks for your inane clarification.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/25/15 03:37 AM
Stanford would be an ideal school to start a D1 team. Excellent academics and creates a base on the West Coast to bring in talent. Denver created the first push West with a high quality program and Stanford could do the same. They already run high quality D1 programs in football, basketball, etc.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/25/15 02:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smithtown with its supposedly top notch program, no longer has a JV team!! What is that about? Can somebody please give insight? No notice was given so we could at least look for an outside team. It's so sad all these kids want to do is play. Now they are just brushed under the rug like they don't matter. Where are their HS memories?


I assume that you are talking about a summer tournament team. I am sure that SE and SW will both field JV teams this spring.

I think the BOE and AD realized that there is a clear conflict of interest so they put an end to the BS.

I think you will see some other administrations follow and put an end to the collusion, coercion and extortion that has been going on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/25/15 08:09 PM
Who is John Glenn varsity lax coach
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/26/15 12:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are tons of committed kids going to schools for essentially book money. Rosters are expanding and funding is going down.

Attendance for the final 4 has been down for 7 consecutive years after peaking in 2007 at 100k and ending up this year with just 50k. These numbers have everyone concerned and are directly tied to deciding who will continue to fully fund there programs. Great articles in the NY times talking about the only people that seem to care are the parents of players and recruits while the casual fan has been turned off from the game.

Growth rates are also down off the highs of 16% down to just 3.5% the last two years.

The game needs help expanding spectator interest.


Nobody Cares But The Parents
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/26/15 05:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are tons of committed kids going to schools for essentially book money. Rosters are expanding and funding is going down.

Attendance for the final 4 has been down for 7 consecutive years after peaking in 2007 at 100k and ending up this year with just 50k. These numbers have everyone concerned and are directly tied to deciding who will continue to fully fund there programs. Great articles in the NY times talking about the only people that seem to care are the parents of players and recruits while the casual fan has been turned off from the game.

Growth rates are also down off the highs of 16% down to just 3.5% the last two years.

A good start would be airing more games on television. It is very annoying to see womens volleyball and softball get so mych more air time than lacrosse when it's the fastest growing sport!

The game needs help expanding spectator interest.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/26/15 06:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are tons of committed kids going to schools for essentially book money. Rosters are expanding and funding is going down.

Attendance for the final 4 has been down for 7 consecutive years after peaking in 2007 at 100k and ending up this year with just 50k. These numbers have everyone concerned and are directly tied to deciding who will continue to fully fund there programs. Great articles in the NY times talking about the only people that seem to care are the parents of players and recruits while the casual fan has been turned off from the game.

Growth rates are also down off the highs of 16% down to just 3.5% the last two years.

A good start would be airing more games on television. It is very annoying to see womens volleyball and softball get so mych more air time than lacrosse when it's the fastest growing sport!

The game needs help expanding spectator interest.


Fastest growing sport? The growth rate is at 3.5% and TV is down 50%!!! Just because some schools are adding teams doesn't mean anyone cares except for the players and their families
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/26/15 07:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who is John Glenn varsity lax coach

Boys- will be a new coach
Girls- will be tha same as last few years frown
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/26/15 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.


Listen Mr. M, we're on the same side of the fence on this one. I never asked for, or even thought about, the coach being removed. But calling out people just because their family has strong roots in the community is just plain stupid. I fall into that category. So do many of my friends and our children. I've never, ever, exhibited the aforementioned characteristics and take great offense to them. If you're going to throw stones, be careful that your aim is good or you may alienate yourself even more.



If enough people show up to the next Board of Ed meeting to voice their opinions, then the answer is yes. The Board should represent the citizens of the town/ district that employs them. If they need to hear from us, we need to show up and express our indignation with what has been done thus far and ensure the wrong is righted. Similar to the meeting before last spring season. I think they have dragged the process out over time expecting us to lose interest, well I have not lost interest. In fact, I am more emboldened to be as proactive as possible. I hope the people who caused this to happen in the first place show up and publicly express their opinions and wishes. But, we all know that will never happen.


Who is the Sayville Boys lacrosse varsity coach? Varsity lax teams are preparing to begin indoor lax practices and we still don't have an answer. I keep hearing "Don't worry, they will bring back Coach D" but why haven't they already done it? A few disgruntled parents should NOT be allowed to ruin a program. Is anyone else from Sayville concerned?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 12:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.


Listen Mr. M, we're on the same side of the fence on this one. I never asked for, or even thought about, the coach being removed. But calling out people just because their family has strong roots in the community is just plain stupid. I fall into that category. So do many of my friends and our children. I've never, ever, exhibited the aforementioned characteristics and take great offense to them. If you're going to throw stones, be careful that your aim is good or you may alienate yourself even more.



If enough people show up to the next Board of Ed meeting to voice their opinions, then the answer is yes. The Board should represent the citizens of the town/ district that employs them. If they need to hear from us, we need to show up and express our indignation with what has been done thus far and ensure the wrong is righted. Similar to the meeting before last spring season. I think they have dragged the process out over time expecting us to lose interest, well I have not lost interest. In fact, I am more emboldened to be as proactive as possible. I hope the people who caused this to happen in the first place show up and publicly express their opinions and wishes. But, we all know that will never happen.


Who is the Sayville Boys lacrosse varsity coach? Varsity lax teams are preparing to begin indoor lax practices and we still don't have an answer. I keep hearing "Don't worry, they will bring back Coach D" but why haven't they already done it? A few disgruntled parents should NOT be allowed to ruin a program. Is anyone else from Sayville concerned?


The best available coach should be given the job, even if that coach is the guy they didn't allow to return. The superintendent and board of education need to make a decision based on available candidates since they decided this was the proper path to travel down.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 01:15 PM
Superintendents don't care about athletics. They want a steady no drama coach and if they win its a plus. Only the education matters. They want a coach that doesn't get them phone calls or surprise visits at board meetings. I love the fact that the parents on here can't name their kids 6 or 7 teachers during the SCHOOL DAY but know everything about coaches . Get your priorities straight people!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 01:19 PM
If school districts were to adhere to the rule of selecting the best available candidate (coach) a lot of incumbents would be out of a job.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Sayville Royalty post was spot on! These people consider anyone whose parents grew up outside of Sayville outsiders. They are cordial to their parents but do scheme against the kids. Nothing brings me more joy than to watch their children being dominated by such outsiders.Coach D is also considered an outsider and as such has never been liked by the Youth Lacrosse Board.They say he doesn't know about lacrosse...blah...blah..I tell them that you can't argue with success. They think that the Sayville boys are so talented that if we had a REAL coach we would win the County every year. Here's a tip our athletes are no better than the athletes in other towns! Some are great some are average and some are terrible. Just like everywhere else. It takes a good coach to recognize talent and to utilize it correctly in order to be successful. The man has been that! His crime was pissing off some suits on the school board because he stood up to them in the name of safety. I'll take a guy like that every time over some worm.


Sayville Royalty????? What the [lacrosse] are you clowns talking about? That may be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Posts like that make you look idiotic and ruin your credibility. These are the same kinds of statements and ideas that made you all come across as meatheads at the board meeting. I'm all for Coach getting his job back, but calling out a large percentage of the community like that is senseless and prejudicial.


The people causing the removal of Coach D should have been called out and if those statements are deemed prejudicial, maybe they are fitting. I still don't understand how a Board removes a coach because of the actions of parents. The decision was not intended to improve the program, it was an emotional reaction to a group of parents who fought for the benefit of the program.


Listen Mr. M, we're on the same side of the fence on this one. I never asked for, or even thought about, the coach being removed. But calling out people just because their family has strong roots in the community is just plain stupid. I fall into that category. So do many of my friends and our children. I've never, ever, exhibited the aforementioned characteristics and take great offense to them. If you're going to throw stones, be careful that your aim is good or you may alienate yourself even more.



If enough people show up to the next Board of Ed meeting to voice their opinions, then the answer is yes. The Board should represent the citizens of the town/ district that employs them. If they need to hear from us, we need to show up and express our indignation with what has been done thus far and ensure the wrong is righted. Similar to the meeting before last spring season. I think they have dragged the process out over time expecting us to lose interest, well I have not lost interest. In fact, I am more emboldened to be as proactive as possible. I hope the people who caused this to happen in the first place show up and publicly express their opinions and wishes. But, we all know that will never happen.


Who is the Sayville Boys lacrosse varsity coach? Varsity lax teams are preparing to begin indoor lax practices and we still don't have an answer. I keep hearing "Don't worry, they will bring back Coach D" but why haven't they already done it? A few disgruntled parents should NOT be allowed to ruin a program. Is anyone else from Sayville concerned?


His name escapes me. He's a local college assistant coach. HS and college playing experience and college level coaching experience. His credentials are sound and I would expect that he will be announced soon.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 03:58 PM
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 04:01 PM
Did SJB fill its spot yet. That could be a diamond in the rough for an experienced coach. Right in West Islip could be good for some who are familiar with the area.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 04:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Superintendents don't care about athletics. They want a steady no drama coach and if they win its a plus. Only the education matters. They want a coach that doesn't get them phone calls or surprise visits at board meetings. I love the fact that the parents on here can't name their kids 6 or 7 teachers during the SCHOOL DAY but know everything about coaches . Get your priorities straight people!


Only the education matters? Life lessons are learned in sports, not in classrooms. Education first, but athletics is a wonderful environment to learn about life. Too many maladjusted kids are leaving school without the ability to be a teammate, learn to contribute to a greater good, set goals and work hard to achieve them, etc. etc. Athletics taught me what it took to be a winner and that translated to life--college, then business. I learned how to be a winner playing lacrosse. Sorry, it's not just the education that matters.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 04:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 04:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Superintendents don't care about athletics. They want a steady no drama coach and if they win its a plus. Only the education matters. They want a coach that doesn't get them phone calls or surprise visits at board meetings. I love the fact that the parents on here can't name their kids 6 or 7 teachers during the SCHOOL DAY but know everything about coaches . Get your priorities straight people!


Only the education matters? Life lessons are learned in sports, not in classrooms. Education first, but athletics is a wonderful environment to learn about life. Too many maladjusted kids are leaving school without the ability to be a teammate, learn to contribute to a greater good, set goals and work hard to achieve them, etc. etc. Athletics taught me what it took to be a winner and that translated to life--college, then business. I learned how to be a winner playing lacrosse. Sorry, it's not just the education that matters.


You also need a coach who is going to demand your best, treat you like a man-not a child, set the winning tone and be an example to follow. We have that in Coach D, but some parents want special treatment and want their kids to be babied. Great lesson to teach your kids, Mom & Dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville


You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 04:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville


You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!


What college?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 05:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville


You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!


If you are referring to that titanic loser who interviewed, that is not an upgrade. I don't want a degenerate coaching my sons. God help us.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 05:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville


You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!


What college?

Please don't say Hartwick
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 06:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


Didn't say current. Former.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/28/15 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville


You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!


What college?

Please don't say Hartwick


If you were Sayville Royalty you would already know. Unfortunately, I can't share that info with outsiders. We live by a code that you'll never understand.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/29/15 01:45 PM
Most college D2 and D3 asst's barely make gas money. A HS gig at 5k+ will more than double their salary. Collage assts do it just for the resume boost
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/29/15 01:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville


You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!


What college?

Please don't say Hartwick


If you were Sayville Royalty you would already know. Unfortunately, I can't share that info with outsiders. We live by a code that you'll never understand.


And wouldn't want to.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/29/15 02:25 PM
who is the new boys varsity head coach
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/29/15 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville


You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!


What college?

Please don't say Hartwick


If you were Sayville Royalty you would already know. Unfortunately, I can't share that info with outsiders. We live by a code that you'll never understand.


Hey Royalty, when you try to shelter your young, they grow up unable to fend for themselves. Weak, clueless, and always looking to Mom & Dad for help. It never benefits the kids in the long run.

Remember how it ended for the Romanovs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/30/15 12:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who is the new boys varsity head coach


The varsity boys lacrosse coach at Sayville HS will be announced next week. Be careful what you wish for....
Posted By: Powderfinger Re: High School Lax - 10/30/15 01:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville


You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!


What college?

Please don't say Hartwick


If you were Sayville Royalty you would already know. Unfortunately, I can't share that info with outsiders. We live by a code that you'll never understand.


Hey Royalty, when you try to shelter your young, they grow up unable to fend for themselves. Weak, clueless, and always looking to Mom & Dad for help. It never benefits the kids in the long run.

Remember how it ended for the Romanovs. [/quote

Hear, hear!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/30/15 02:25 PM
Originally Posted by Powderfinger
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


What college?

Please don't say Hartwick


If you were Sayville Royalty you would already know. Unfortunately, I can't share that info with outsiders. We live by a code that you'll never understand.


Hey Royalty, when you try to shelter your young, they grow up unable to fend for themselves. Weak, clueless, and always looking to Mom & Dad for help. It never benefits the kids in the long run.

Remember how it ended for the Romanovs. [/quote

Hear, hear!


Are there any Bolsheviks in Sayville? Rise up!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/30/15 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville


You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!


Yes, of course he'd quit the college job. Can't do both.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/30/15 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville


You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!


Yes, of course he'd quit the college job. Can't do both.


Close to home and more money who wouldn't quit?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/30/15 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville


You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!


Yes, of course he'd quit the college job. Can't do both.


Close to home and more money who wouldn't quit?


This saga should be a Reality TV Show
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/30/15 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville

You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!

What college?

Please don't say Hartwick


If you were Sayville Royalty you would already know. Unfortunately, I can't share that info with outsiders. We live by a code that you'll never understand.


Hey Royalty, when you try to shelter your young, they grow up unable to fend for themselves. Weak, clueless, and always looking to Mom & Dad for help. It never benefits the kids in the long run.

Remember how it ended for the Romanovs.


You do realize that we're discussing high school lacrosse, right? Your implication that my son's future will be adversely affected because of a coaching change is ludicrous. Do you truly believe that he'll destined to sell hot dogs and invisible dogs at local parades for a living because of this?? You need to get over it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/30/15 05:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville

You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK OUT!!!

What college?

Please don't say Hartwick


If you were Sayville Royalty you would already know. Unfortunately, I can't share that info with outsiders. We live by a code that you'll never understand.


Hey Royalty, when you try to shelter your young, they grow up unable to fend for themselves. Weak, clueless, and always looking to Mom & Dad for help. It never benefits the kids in the long run.

Remember how it ended for the Romanovs.


You do realize that we're discussing high school lacrosse, right? Your implication that my son's future will be adversely affected because of a coaching change is ludicrous. Do you truly believe that he'll destined to sell hot dogs and invisible dogs at local parades for a living because of this?? You need to get over it.


A coach totally changed the course of my life, set me on the path to a great life. Fathers with weak wills and an overly protective approach to parenting can harm a young persons progression to manhood. Stop trying to be his buddy.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/31/15 09:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville

You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK

If you were Sayville Royalty you would already know. Unfortunately, I can't share that info with outsiders. We live by a code that you'll never understand.


Hey Royalty, when you try to shelter your young, they grow up unable to fend for themselves. Weak, clueless, and always looking to Mom & Dad for help. It never benefits the kids in the long run.

Remember how it ended for the Romanovs.


You do realize that we're discussing high school lacrosse, right? Your implication that my son's future will be adversely affected because of a coaching change is ludicrous. Do you truly believe that he'll destined to sell hot dogs and invisible dogs at local parades for a living because of this?? You need to get over it.


A coach totally changed the course of my life, set me on the path to a great life. Fathers with weak wills and an overly protective approach to parenting can harm a young persons progression to manhood. Stop trying to be his buddy.


This is exactly why there is a new coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 10/31/15 09:37 PM
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A coach totally changed the course of my life, set me on the path to a great life. Fathers with weak wills and an overly protective approach to parenting can harm a young persons progression to manhood. Stop trying to be his buddy.
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Spare the rod, spoil the child or The pain of discipline is nothing like the pain of disappointment....
Posted By: America's Game Re: High School Lax - 10/31/15 10:10 PM
This may not be a lacrosse story but my high school soccer coach influenced me and my life far beyond my years of playing for him. He is still a friend after almost 30 years. His words of encouragement and also constructive criticism echo in my head to this day. He grounded me at a time when I thought I was infallible and invincible. Thank you to those who feel its more than just a paycheck and take a vested interest in the young lives that they help mold.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/02/15 02:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville

You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK

If you were Sayville Royalty you would already know. Unfortunately, I can't share that info with outsiders. We live by a code that you'll never understand.


Hey Royalty, when you try to shelter your young, they grow up unable to fend for themselves. Weak, clueless, and always looking to Mom & Dad for help. It never benefits the kids in the long run.

Remember how it ended for the Romanovs.


You do realize that we're discussing high school lacrosse, right? Your implication that my son's future will be adversely affected because of a coaching change is ludicrous. Do you truly believe that he'll destined to sell hot dogs and invisible dogs at local parades for a living because of this?? You need to get over it.


A coach totally changed the course of my life, set me on the path to a great life. Fathers with weak wills and an overly protective approach to parenting can harm a young persons progression to manhood. Stop trying to be his buddy.


This is exactly why there is a new coach.


Care to elaborate?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/02/15 01:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
not from the town... but how can a current College asst be a HS head coach! There is not enough time in the day.


I think that person meant that he's a college asst coach now, but slated to take over at Sayville

You made that as clear as mud... Question is... will he quit his College post to coach Sayville. if not, LOOK

If you were Sayville Royalty you would already know. Unfortunately, I can't share that info with outsiders. We live by a code that you'll never understand.


Hey Royalty, when you try to shelter your young, they grow up unable to fend for themselves. Weak, clueless, and always looking to Mom & Dad for help. It never benefits the kids in the long run.

Remember how it ended for the Romanovs.


You do realize that we're discussing high school lacrosse, right? Your implication that my son's future will be adversely affected because of a coaching change is ludicrous. Do you truly believe that he'll destined to sell hot dogs and invisible dogs at local parades for a living because of this?? You need to get over it.


A coach totally changed the course of my life, set me on the path to a great life. Fathers with weak wills and an overly protective approach to parenting can harm a young persons progression to manhood. Stop trying to be his buddy.


This is exactly why there is a new coach.


Because a few parents are too involved and manipulative? Because a few parents will stop at nothing to get their son playing time? Because a few parents feel their son is not being treated fairly because he's not receiving special treatment? Once again, super lame. Bring in a sycophant who will bend to the will of the Board and Super who are absolutely clueless about coaching and mentoring kids. I want a coach who will help me develop my son into a well adjusted man, not a little boy who needs Mommy and Daddy to hold their hand through life. Truly pathetic behavior and the only people who will suffer are the kids.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/02/15 01:35 PM
Why would a HS coach ask if any kids play travel and for what team on the winter open gym sign up sheet? If you don't play travel you're no good? If you don't play for the right travel team you're penalized?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/02/15 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would a HS coach ask if any kids play travel and for what team on the winter open gym sign up sheet? If you don't play travel you're no good? If you don't play for the right travel team you're penalized?


Why must you jump to such a negative assumption. The reason could be one of many. I coach in Suffolk for a strong program and I inquire who is playing travel and where so I know what kids have may have conflicts. I also want to know who is playing where so I can give my feedback regarding that program to the parents and also if I know the coaches of the travel program, I can speak with them about how he is playing. There are money grabs out there and I want my kids to avoid them. Nothing nefarious and I agree with another poster. It is parents like you sir that ruin programs. We are not out to get you and your child. We do not invest 100's of hours over the course of a year to coach these kids because we are lavished with loads of cash. We love the sport and our reward is watching kids succeed on the field and in life. You can thank us with a hand shake as a show of appreciation, not a knife in the back. First and last time posting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/02/15 07:56 PM
-Started the program from nothing

-4 Suffolk County Championship Appearances

-2 Suffolk County Championships

-1 Long Island Championship

-All within a 15 year span since the program's inaugural season

-Nationally recognized program

-Numerous High School and College All Americans

-Has sent more student athletes to college to play lacrosse then all of the sports in Sayville combined.

-No other program in Suffolk County (which is one of the top hotbeds for lacrosse in the nation) has had the success of Sayville in the past decade other then West Islip.

These are just the facts. They are ruining something special that was only going to keep getting better. It's a sad state of affairs for High School Lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/02/15 09:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would a HS coach ask if any kids play travel and for what team on the winter open gym sign up sheet? If you don't play travel you're no good? If you don't play for the right travel team you're penalized?


Why must you jump to such a negative assumption. The reason could be one of many. I coach in Suffolk for a strong program and I inquire who is playing travel and where so I know what kids have may have conflicts. I also want to know who is playing where so I can give my feedback regarding that program to the parents and also if I know the coaches of the travel program, I can speak with them about how he is playing. There are money grabs out there and I want my kids to avoid them. Nothing nefarious and I agree with another poster. It is parents like you sir that ruin programs. We are not out to get you and your child. We do not invest 100's of hours over the course of a year to coach these kids because we are lavished with loads of cash. We love the sport and our reward is watching kids succeed on the field and in life. You can thank us with a hand shake as a show of appreciation, not a knife in the back. First and last time posting.


Never asked in any other sport so you have to ask why?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/02/15 09:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would a HS coach ask if any kids play travel and for what team on the winter open gym sign up sheet? If you don't play travel you're no good? If you don't play for the right travel team you're penalized?


Why must you jump to such a negative assumption. The reason could be one of many. I coach in Suffolk for a strong program and I inquire who is playing travel and where so I know what kids have may have conflicts. I also want to know who is playing where so I can give my feedback regarding that program to the parents and also if I know the coaches of the travel program, I can speak with them about how he is playing. There are money grabs out there and I want my kids to avoid them. Nothing nefarious and I agree with another poster. It is parents like you sir that ruin programs. We are not out to get you and your child. We do not invest 100's of hours over the course of a year to coach these kids because we are lavished with loads of cash. We love the sport and our reward is watching kids succeed on the field and in life. You can thank us with a hand shake as a show of appreciation, not a knife in the back. First and last time posting.


Never asked in any other sport so you have to ask why?


Please, you guys have learned how to turn something good into a negative. A coach wants to know what they have, wants to know where they're are at.

for each school that does this and I will give you 5 more that the parents wished their HS coaches did this. Delicate balance being a HS coach of a sport known in a specific region. ask any Florida or texas football coaches they'll say the same thing...

I just cant believe winning coaches are getting the axe especially when there are plenty of losing coaches or 500 coaches who should be dragged out of town.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/02/15 10:02 PM
This is so sad. Welcome to the New American Way. Punish those who succeed where you failed. I guess you have to fight for your kid, because you know deep down in side that their failure was yours.

My kids know only the best players play. They've know it from day 1. If they want to be the ones playing, THEY need to make that happen by being the best at their position, working well in the team and keeping the coach happy. Because the coach is the boss. And in the real world you need to keep the boss happy - by being the best at your position, working well in the team AND ... keeping the boss happy. Sound familiar? There is no secret ingredient except hard work and playing nicely with others. And maybe if you work hard and you work smart one day you'll be the boss.

If you didn't teach your kid that shame on you for your failure as a parent. As a parent, I don't give a crap what sport my kids play as long as they learn those 3 things.

So if you're so smart that you think the coach is wrong, well, the position is available so maybe you should apply? Oh, maybe you don't know [lacrosse] about parenting or lacrosse either? You're under qualified for both it seems. But go ahead and punish the guy who spent a big portion of his life building the program from nothing so you can feel better.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/02/15 10:28 PM
Guys I don't think this is a parent problem. It was an issue the BOE and superintendent had with the coach sticking up for his program. The JV assistant coach position was taken away early January while the guy thought he would be coaching already. Coach D was fighting for his position, not to mention Coach D coached the Varsity team by himself with NO assistant. .let's see some other guys try that. Coach D and the team end up beating the #1 seed in OT and lose in county finals by 1, yeah let's fire that guy. I really hope the boe can find some common ground and work something out. My son had an unbelievable experience with coach D and I want my little guy to have the same. Coach D is down to earth, totally approachable, honest and has to be one of the hardest working coaches around. He is involved top to bottom in the lax program, he is the program. Let's do the right thing or we will lose him .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 12:13 AM
Unfortunately the BOE have big egos. They would rather destroy the program than be perceived as weak. So we will get a new coach. I hope that he's good but am skeptical. Vw
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 12:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately the BOE have big egos. They would rather destroy the program than be perceived as weak. So we will get a new coach. I hope that he's good but am skeptical. Vw


Why is it suddenly acceptable to rollover and acquiesce to what the board wishes? The board serves us! We need to be heard in the loudest and clearest possible way. Just because the Super is sneaking out the back door and his final act is to can the best possible coach we could think of having for our kids does NOT mean we should allow it to happen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 02:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Unfortunately the BOE have big egos. They would rather destroy the program than be perceived as weak. So we will get a new coach. I hope that he's good but am skeptical. Vw


I bet they wouldn't do this to football, if the coach tried to do the best thing for his program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 02:46 AM
most BOE's could care less about sports you are giving them way too much credit
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 03:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would a HS coach ask if any kids play travel and for what team on the winter open gym sign up sheet? If you don't play travel you're no good? If you don't play for the right travel team you're penalized?


Why must you jump to such a negative assumption. The reason could be one of many. I coach in Suffolk for a strong program and I inquire who is playing travel and where so I know what kids have may have conflicts. I also want to know who is playing where so I can give my feedback regarding that program to the parents and also if I know the coaches of the travel program, I can speak with them about how he is playing. There are money grabs out there and I want my kids to avoid them. Nothing nefarious and I agree with another poster. It is parents like you sir that ruin programs. We are not out to get you and your child. We do not invest 100's of hours over the course of a year to coach these kids because we are lavished with loads of cash. We love the sport and our reward is watching kids succeed on the field and in life. You can thank us with a hand shake as a show of appreciation, not a knife in the back. First and last time posting.


Never asked in any other sport so you have to ask why?


Who never asked in any other sport?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 03:49 AM
I never said that we should just roll over but unfortunately it is the BOE who will make the decision. I doubt that they won't be reelected over a lacrosse coach. From what I've heard Dr.S actually relented and recommended Coach D's reinstatement. The board flipped out saying that they supported his removal on Dr.S's say so and now you can't just change your mind and make us look bad. POLITICS will be the downfall of the program!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 12:50 PM
It's lacrosse dad. Tell you kid to work on his STEM studies. I would guess about 90% of you guys arguing don't have a clue what that is without googling it. Sad dad, very sad.

And don't forget to vote. Only about 20% of LI's will vote today. I am guessing you are in the 80%.

But my kid gets his name in newsday when he scores a goal and some $55,000 a year liberal arts college that I never heard of wants to give him $7,500 to play so I couldn't be prouder.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 01:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I never said that we should just roll over but unfortunately it is the BOE who will make the decision. I doubt that they won't be reelected over a lacrosse coach. From what I've heard Dr.S actually relented and recommended Coach D's reinstatement. The board flipped out saying that they supported his removal on Dr.S's say so and now you can't just change your mind and make us look bad. POLITICS will be the downfall of the program!


That's a sad statement. If the BoE isn't making ALL decisions in the best interest of the community, they should be voted out. This entire situation has gone well beyond the pale of what is acceptable behavior. Stop pointing fingers and do the right thing by our kids and community.
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 11/03/15 01:23 PM
Originally Posted by jackstraw
What about the PW coach? Why did he leave?? Who is going to take his spot??


Port is still looking for a coach
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 01:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I never said that we should just roll over but unfortunately it is the BOE who will make the decision. I doubt that they won't be reelected over a lacrosse coach. From what I've heard Dr.S actually relented and recommended Coach D's reinstatement. The board flipped out saying that they supported his removal on Dr.S's say so and now you can't just change your mind and make us look bad. POLITICS will be the downfall of the program!


That's a sad statement. If the BoE isn't making ALL decisions in the best interest of the community, they should be voted out. This entire situation has gone well beyond the pale of what is acceptable behavior. Stop pointing fingers and do the right thing by our kids and community.


The reality is the BOE and 95% of the rest of any school district could care less about the lacrosse program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I never said that we should just roll over but unfortunately it is the BOE who will make the decision. I doubt that they won't be reelected over a lacrosse coach. From what I've heard Dr.S actually relented and recommended Coach D's reinstatement. The board flipped out saying that they supported his removal on Dr.S's say so and now you can't just change your mind and make us look bad. POLITICS will be the downfall of the program!



That's a sad statement. If the BoE isn't making ALL decisions in the best interest of the community, they should be voted out. This entire situation has gone well beyond the pale of what is acceptable behavior. Stop pointing fingers and do the right thing by our kids and community.


The reality is the BOE and 95% of the rest of any school district could care less about the lacrosse program.


95% of the town couldn't care less about the vast majority of issues considered by the BoE, but I still want them to represent my views and do what is in the best interest of our community on every single issues. No exceptions.

See you all Thursday evening.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I never said that we should just roll over but unfortunately it is the BOE who will make the decision. I doubt that they won't be reelected over a lacrosse coach. From what I've heard Dr.S actually relented and recommended Coach D's reinstatement. The board flipped out saying that they supported his removal on Dr.S's say so and now you can't just change your mind and make us look bad. POLITICS will be the downfall of the program!


That's a sad statement. If the BoE isn't making ALL decisions in the best interest of the community, they should be voted out. This entire situation has gone well beyond the pale of what is acceptable behavior. Stop pointing fingers and do the right thing by our kids and community.


In our district the question should be:

What if the Coaches are not making all decisions in the best interest of the players? Should they be removed?

Just like what was said above:

Stop pointing fingers and dividing the community and do what is best for the players. Not what is best for your bank account.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I never said that we should just roll over but unfortunately it is the BOE who will make the decision. I doubt that they won't be reelected over a lacrosse coach. From what I've heard Dr.S actually relented and recommended Coach D's reinstatement. The board flipped out saying that they supported his removal on Dr.S's say so and now you can't just change your mind and make us look bad. POLITICS will be the downfall of the program!


That's a sad statement. If the BoE isn't making ALL decisions in the best interest of the community, they should be voted out. This entire situation has gone well beyond the pale of what is acceptable behavior. Stop pointing fingers and do the right thing by our kids and community.


In our district the question should be:

What if the Coaches are not making all decisions in the best interest of the players? Should they be removed?

Just like what was said above:

Stop pointing fingers and dividing the community and do what is best for the players. Not what is best for your bank account.


That's a fair statement
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 03:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I never said that we should just roll over but unfortunately it is the BOE who will make the decision. I doubt that they won't be reelected over a lacrosse coach. From what I've heard Dr.S actually relented and recommended Coach D's reinstatement. The board flipped out saying that they supported his removal on Dr.S's say so and now you can't just change your mind and make us look bad. POLITICS will be the downfall of the program!



That's a sad statement. If the BoE isn't making ALL decisions in the best interest of the community, they should be voted out. This entire situation has gone well beyond the pale of what is acceptable behavior. Stop pointing fingers and do the right thing by our kids and community.


The reality is the BOE and 95% of the rest of any school district could care less about the lacrosse program.


95% of the town couldn't care less about the vast majority of issues considered by the BoE, but I still want them to represent my views and do what is in the best interest of our community on every single issues. No exceptions.

See you all Thursday evening.


Maybe you should go to more BOE meetings. Thursday will be your second. Hardly a credible voice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I never said that we should just roll over but unfortunately it is the BOE who will make the decision. I doubt that they won't be reelected over a lacrosse coach. From what I've heard Dr.S actually relented and recommended Coach D's reinstatement. The board flipped out saying that they supported his removal on Dr.S's say so and now you can't just change your mind and make us look bad. POLITICS will be the downfall of the program!



That's a sad statement. If the BoE isn't making ALL decisions in the best interest of the community, they should be voted out. This entire situation has gone well beyond the pale of what is acceptable behavior. Stop pointing fingers and do the right thing by our kids and community.


The reality is the BOE and 95% of the rest of any school district could care less about the lacrosse program.


95% of the town couldn't care less about the vast majority of issues considered by the BoE, but I still want them to represent my views and do what is in the best interest of our community on every single issues. No exceptions.

See you all Thursday evening.


Maybe you should go to more BOE meetings. Thursday will be your second. Hardly a credible voice.


You are either on the right side of an issue or the wrong side, regardless of how many BoE meetings have been attended. Someone said John Danowski isn't coming to coach Sayville lacrosse so stick with the guy who is a proven winner and from most accounts, a great mentor and influence for our kids.

BoE, have the guts to make the right call and set aside egos.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 06:45 PM
BOTC should offer up prizes for any of these dads that can name all of their kids teachers and not just their lacrosse coach.

Do well in school. Lacrosse is just a game. If playing professionally at $10,000 a year plus some summer coaching and maybe a varsity gig at $6,000 is what you want for your kids then keep up the fight LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 06:58 PM
The problem is Sayville BOE has never supported the lacrosse program nor has the administration and some how under Coach D the program has flourished. I see the guy at every LI lax event. He spends countless hours on the Sayville program. His peers coaching in Suffolk respect the heck out of him and what the program has accomplished. Please, somehow figure this out. We want X,Y and Z from you....is that too hard to figure out? Let the community vote on the issue. Put 5 different coaches and Coach D on a ballot. Let's see who the community chooses
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 07:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
BOTC should offer up prizes for any of these dads that can name all of their kids teachers and not just their lacrosse coach.

Do well in school. Lacrosse is just a game. If playing professionally at $10,000 a year plus some summer coaching and maybe a varsity gig at $6,000 is what you want for your kids then keep up the fight LOL


You obviously have no idea what your talking about and have zero interactions with actual good coaches. It's not about lacrosse jobs, college or $. It's about who I want my son with for 100's of hours a year. I want my son to be confident, comfortable, hard working, goal oriented. I want my son to have great life long experiences with the friends he has grown up with. Sayville is a special place. The lacrosse program has been a special program in our town. The reason we fight and are upset about this is because we know what we have, we know it's a proven formula, I know many kids that have graduated from Sayville and played for Coach D, they would run through walls for the guy and he probably the same. Mention Sayville lacrosse to any team in their league, nothing but respect. Even the parents of other teams make comments about how envious they are about the program. Please if you just trolling the message boards looking for nonsense to say, find a different topic.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 07:34 PM
Typical lacrosse parents they have a booster club of about 50 kids and they think everyone else cares about their sport. Other parents don't, BOE doesn't and Superintendent doesn't either. Sorry. You make it sound like a monster will get the team if your coach doesn't. Change happens everywhere everyday deal with it and move on. Will new coach be the same or better than the old? maybe, maybe not but its ok
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 07:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Typical lacrosse parents they have a booster club of about 50 kids and they think everyone else cares about their sport. Other parents don't, BOE doesn't and Superintendent doesn't either. Sorry. You make it sound like a monster will get the team if your coach doesn't. Change happens everywhere everyday deal with it and move on. Will new coach be the same or better than the old? maybe, maybe not but its ok


So let those who will be affected by who will be coaching make the decision--if no one cares. What a horrible attitude. Change happens when something isn't working, not when the situation is ideal, as is the case with the lacrosse program and Coach D.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 10:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Typical lacrosse parents they have a booster club of about 50 kids and they think everyone else cares about their sport. Other parents don't, BOE doesn't and Superintendent doesn't either. Sorry. You make it sound like a monster will get the team if your coach doesn't. Change happens everywhere everyday deal with it and move on. Will new coach be the same or better than the old? maybe, maybe not but its ok


So let those who will be affected by who will be coaching make the decision--if no one cares. What a horrible attitude. Change happens when something isn't working, not when the situation is ideal, as is the case with the lacrosse program and Coach D.


You may be the only one who though the situation was ideal,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 11:14 PM
Do we know who is getting job?? Why such a delay in announcing it?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/03/15 11:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Typical lacrosse parents they have a booster club of about 50 kids and they think everyone else cares about their sport. Other parents don't, BOE doesn't and Superintendent doesn't either. Sorry. You make it sound like a monster will get the team if your coach doesn't. Change happens everywhere everyday deal with it and move on. Will new coach be the same or better than the old? maybe, maybe not but its ok


So let those who will be affected by who will be coaching make the decision--if no one cares. What a horrible attitude. Change happens when something isn't working, not when the situation is ideal, as is the case with the lacrosse program and Coach D.


You may be the only one who though the situation was ideal,


Where have you been hiding? Why didn't you think the situation was ideal? You would have changed...? What exactly.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 01:22 AM
No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 01:33 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.


Ya never know. Look what happened at SWR!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 01:49 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.


Ya never know. Look what happened at SWR! [/quote

Yea, nice role model of cheating via holdbacks. Not a good person to advance the sport. I
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 02:12 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.


Ya never know. Look what happened at SWR!

Don't forget there was a year of disaster before the current guy took over.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 10:48 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.


Ya never know. Look what happened at SWR! [/quote

Yea, nice role model of cheating via holdbacks. Not a good person to advance the sport. I


He's a great person to advance the sport. Know all your facts before you come on here and lob criticisms.

SWR, Sayville, Huntington, Glenn- lots of coaches changing in recent years. Similar circumstances surrounding each. How soon till HS lax officially doesn't matter and the best kids only play "club"? Consider that a 7th grade game was on ESPN this past summer. When was the last HS lax game nationally televised? If ever
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 12:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.


Ya never know. Look what happened at SWR! [/quote

Yea, nice role model of cheating via holdbacks. Not a good person to advance the sport. I


He's a great person to advance the sport. Know all your facts before you come on here and lob criticisms.

SWR, Sayville, Huntington, Glenn- lots of coaches changing in recent years. Similar circumstances surrounding each. How soon till HS lax officially doesn't matter and the best kids only play "club"? Consider that a 7th grade game was on ESPN this past summer. When was the last HS lax game nationally televised? If ever


I think you're on to something here. Except for a few towns in either Nassau and Suffolk, along with a couple of the Catholics, the state of HS Lax is abysmal. Many of these HS coaches are completely clueless, about the evolution of the game, the recruiting process, training techniques, on and on. Most of these HS coaches constantly give the top travel kids aggravation about playing in top events. I feel like every season my son takes a step back playing the school season. I would love to see all school sports done away with. It's happening with soccer, where top kids forgo school to play on a an Elite Club. Further, every sport, for the most part can be played in the club circuit at a much higher level.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 12:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.


Ya never know. Look what happened at SWR! [/quote

Yea, nice role model of cheating via holdbacks. Not a good person to advance the sport. I


The coach you bash has an impressive résumé, including coaching a NCAA DII national championship team. He is a great coach and you'd know that if your kid was ever coached by him.
Holding a student back is not cheating, it is a decision parents make for their children. His personal choices where his son is concerned is simply none of your business.
The few holdbacks are a reality, deal with it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 12:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.


Ya never know. Look what happened at SWR! [/quote

Yea, nice role model of cheating via holdbacks. Not a good person to advance the sport. I


The coach you bash has an impressive résumé, including coaching a NCAA DII national championship team. He is a great coach and you'd know that if your kid was ever coached by him.
Holding a student back is not cheating, it is a decision parents make for their children. His personal choices where his son is concerned is simply none of your business.
The few holdbacks are a reality, deal with it.


You are wrong. Personal choices indicate a mans true character, good or bad. Also, the situation at SWR was absolutely NOT similar to our situation in Sayville.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 12:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.


Ya never know. Look what happened at SWR! [/quote

Yea, nice role model of cheating via holdbacks. Not a good person to advance the sport. I


The coach you bash has an impressive résumé, including coaching a NCAA DII national championship team. He is a great coach and you'd know that if your kid was ever coached by him.
Holding a student back is not cheating, it is a decision parents make for their children. His personal choices where his son is concerned is simply none of your business.
The few holdbacks are a reality, deal with it.


Do you feel the same about letting a kid play down a year without reclassing? You do realize this means a legit age kid gets cut. That is someone who should be respected.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.


Ya never know. Look what happened at SWR! [/quote

Yea, nice role model of cheating via holdbacks. Not a good person to advance the sport. I


The coach you bash has an impressive résumé, including coaching a NCAA DII national championship team. He is a great coach and you'd know that if your kid was ever coached by him.
Holding a student back is not cheating, it is a decision parents make for their children. His personal choices where his son is concerned is simply none of your business.
The few holdbacks are a reality, deal with it.


You are wrong. Personal choices indicate a mans true character, good or bad. Also, the situation at SWR was absolutely NOT similar to our situation in Sayville.


Actually the situations are very similar. A very good but outspoken coach given the axe because he pissed off the BOE.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 01:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.


Ya never know. Look what happened at SWR! [/quote

Yea, nice role model of cheating via holdbacks. Not a good person to advance the sport. I


He's a great person to advance the sport. Know all your facts before you come on here and lob criticisms.

SWR, Sayville, Huntington, Glenn- lots of coaches changing in recent years. Similar circumstances surrounding each. How soon till HS lax officially doesn't matter and the best kids only play "club"? Consider that a 7th grade game was on ESPN this past summer. When was the last HS lax game nationally televised? If ever


I think you're on to something here. Except for a few towns in either Nassau and Suffolk, along with a couple of the Catholics, the state of HS Lax is abysmal. Many of these HS coaches are completely clueless, about the evolution of the game, the recruiting process, training techniques, on and on. Most of these HS coaches constantly give the top travel kids aggravation about playing in top events. I feel like every season my son takes a step back playing the school season. I would love to see all school sports done away with. It's happening with soccer, where top kids forgo school to play on a an Elite Club. Further, every sport, for the most part can be played in the club circuit at a much higher level.


It's not a job dad and its not about your kid. Kids loving playing for their schools, not for the quality of play but for playing with their friends and representing the place the spent 12 years playing. You parents have got to relax on this world domination get recruited BS. Let the kids be kids
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 01:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]No qualified person will touch this job now. You will have to get someone new to coaching Varsity or some dad.


Ya never know. Look what happened at SWR! [/quote

Yea, nice role model of cheating via holdbacks. Not a good person to advance the sport. I


The coach you bash has an impressive résumé, including coaching a NCAA DII national championship team. He is a great coach and you'd know that if your kid was ever coached by him.
Holding a student back is not cheating, it is a decision parents make for their children. His personal choices where his son is concerned is simply none of your business.
The few holdbacks are a reality, deal with it.


You are wrong. Personal choices indicate a mans true character, good or bad. Also, the situation at SWR was absolutely NOT similar to our situation in Sayville.


Actually the situations are very similar. A very good but outspoken coach given the axe because he pissed off the BOE.


In that regard, you are 100% correct. I'd like to see that mistake not happen in Sayville. What did Coach D do to deserve losing his job?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 03:24 PM
Didn't the varsity coach at Sayville start their entire school program? We have had our boys program for over 40 years and have never been able to reach the consistent success level they have and we are same size school, same demographic of kids. Last season we played them, we had 4-5 coaches on the sideline and he was coaching by himself! We lost. My hats off to the guy! Whoever is listening? Figure it out and keep him!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 04:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't the varsity coach at Sayville start their entire school program? We have had our boys program for over 40 years and have never been able to reach the consistent success level they have and we are same size school, same demographic of kids. Last season we played them, we had 4-5 coaches on the sideline and he was coaching by himself! We lost. My hats off to the guy! Whoever is listening? Figure it out and keep him!


Amen. Workout the issues and keep Coach D.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 07:10 PM
Amen
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/04/15 11:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't the varsity coach at Sayville start their entire school program? We have had our boys program for over 40 years and have never been able to reach the consistent success level they have and we are same size school, same demographic of kids. Last season we played them, we had 4-5 coaches on the sideline and he was coaching by himself! We lost. My hats off to the guy! Whoever is listening? Figure it out and keep him!


Amen. Workout the issues and keep Coach D.


Be that as it may, you're all beating a dead horse. He's not being reinstated. Someone else has been selected to continue on the program. I'd say it would make sense to welcome him instead of burying him before his first practice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 11:51 AM
We will support and fight for Coach D. He taught and instilled in our kids to never give up, we will do the same!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 01:47 PM
Let go of the past, embrace the future.

Its over Johnny...NOTHING IS OVER!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 02:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't the varsity coach at Sayville start their entire school program? We have had our boys program for over 40 years and have never been able to reach the consistent success level they have and we are same size school, same demographic of kids. Last season we played them, we had 4-5 coaches on the sideline and he was coaching by himself! We lost. My hats off to the guy! Whoever is listening? Figure it out and keep him!


Amen. Workout the issues and keep Coach D.


Be that as it may, you're all beating a dead horse. He's not being reinstated. Someone else has been selected to continue on the program. I'd say it would make sense to welcome him instead of burying him before his first practice.


The BoE is completely out of control and have lost focus of their edict. They do not serve their egos, they serve the citizens of the school district. Do what's best for the kids and reinstate Coach D
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't the varsity coach at Sayville start their entire school program? We have had our boys program for over 40 years and have never been able to reach the consistent success level they have and we are same size school, same demographic of kids. Last season we played them, we had 4-5 coaches on the sideline and he was coaching by himself! We lost. My hats off to the guy! Whoever is listening? Figure it out and keep him!


Amen. Workout the issues and keep Coach D.


Be that as it may, you're all beating a dead horse. He's not being reinstated. Someone else has been selected to continue on the program. I'd say it would make sense to welcome him instead of burying him before his first practice.


The BoE is completely out of control and have lost focus of their edict. They do not serve their egos, they serve the citizens of the school district. Do what's best for the kids and reinstate Coach D


School district size is what? People who care about this is less than a 100. Can't fight city hall
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 04:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Didn't the varsity coach at Sayville start their entire school program? We have had our boys program for over 40 years and have never been able to reach the consistent success level they have and we are same size school, same demographic of kids. Last season we played them, we had 4-5 coaches on the sideline and he was coaching by himself! We lost. My hats off to the guy! Whoever is listening? Figure it out and keep him!


Amen. Workout the issues and keep Coach D.


Be that as it may, you're all beating a dead horse. He's not being reinstated. Someone else has been selected to continue on the program. I'd say it would make sense to welcome him instead of burying him before his first practice.


The BoE is completely out of control and have lost focus of their edict. They do not serve their egos, they serve the citizens of the school district. Do what's best for the kids and reinstate Coach D


School district size is what? People who care about this is less than a 100. Can't fight city hall


for those that care. FOIL the information. this is all public knowledge especially if they in fact hired a coach. if they did Id suggested you support the new guy for your kids sake and go after the BOE at the next election. You saw what happen in SWR.

Not for the Cosach there are plenty of spots rich with talent. SJB is just that place. You could make that HS the next Catholic school to be great. South Shore families are waiting for that school to explode with sports!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 04:29 PM
We know what we have with Coach D! We don't want to lose him!
He has been the coach for over 15 years. He started the program and has directed it very well thus far. We don't want him coaching anywhere but Sayville. What upsets me is this is NOT a coaching issue or a performance issue. He is personable, positive and encouraging to all grade levels and skill levels. He's highly involved and coaches 12 months out of the year. He cannot be replaced. Let the community vote or have a say!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 09:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We know what we have with Coach D! We don't want to lose him!
He has been the coach for over 15 years. He started the program and has directed it very well thus far. We don't want him coaching anywhere but Sayville. What upsets me is this is NOT a coaching issue or a performance issue. He is personable, positive and encouraging to all grade levels and skill levels. He's highly involved and coaches 12 months out of the year. He cannot be replaced. Let the community vote or have a say!


You let the community vote when you elected your BOE. Maybe your community will remember this when they vote for your next board
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 10:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We know what we have with Coach D! We don't want to lose him!
He has been the coach for over 15 years. He started the program and has directed it very well thus far. We don't want him coaching anywhere but Sayville. What upsets me is this is NOT a coaching issue or a performance issue. He is personable, positive and encouraging to all grade levels and skill levels. He's highly involved and coaches 12 months out of the year. He cannot be replaced. Let the community vote or have a say!


For me, this issue has gone well beyond the Board, the Superintendent, etc. I want to know why Coach D wasn't reinstated which is why we find ourselves in this situation. Please sir, don't post "its too late, move on" that's not how I was raised.....in Sayville. Parents resisted the removal of assistant coaches and somehow that was Coach D's fault? Somehow the reaction was fire him? That really can't be the reason.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 10:14 PM


Review the reinstatement petition posts. Far more than 100 people care about this issue.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 10:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous


Review the reinstatement petition posts. Far more than 100 people care about this issue.


Search: ipetition Sayville lax

439 signatures and over 150 comments

Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 10:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We know what we have with Coach D! We don't want to lose him!
He has been the coach for over 15 years. He started the program and has directed it very well thus far. We don't want him coaching anywhere but Sayville. What upsets me is this is NOT a coaching issue or a performance issue. He is personable, positive and encouraging to all grade levels and skill levels. He's highly involved and coaches 12 months out of the year. He cannot be replaced. Let the community vote or have a say!


You let the community vote when you elected your BOE. Maybe your community will remember this when they vote for your next board

Its time for the Superintendent to be removed. This comes from him. He led the board into a few situations in the last few years that made the BOE look bad and almost cost members their seats in recent elections to some radicals. The most recent besides this is the gross over estimate of expenditures to the tune of 30 million. The common thread in all these situations is that they lead to the eroding of public trust in the quality individuals who make up the board. He is their advisor.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We know what we have with Coach D! We don't want to lose him!
He has been the coach for over 15 years. He started the program and has directed it very well thus far. We don't want him coaching anywhere but Sayville. What upsets me is this is NOT a coaching issue or a performance issue. He is personable, positive and encouraging to all grade levels and skill levels. He's highly involved and coaches 12 months out of the year. He cannot be replaced. Let the community vote or have a say!


You let the community vote when you elected your BOE. Maybe your community will remember this when they vote for your next board

Its time for the Superintendent to be removed. This comes from him. He led the board into a few situations in the last few years that made the BOE look bad and almost cost members their seats in recent elections to some radicals. The most recent besides this is the gross over estimate of expenditures to the tune of 30 million. The common thread in all these situations is that they lead to the eroding of public trust in the quality individuals who make up the board. He is their advisor.


Agreed 100%. Reinstate Coach D and let the Super walk off into the sunset. DO THE RIGHT THING BY THE PROGRAM AND THE KIDS.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/05/15 11:37 PM
Does anyone know of GIRLS high school winter leagues on LI? Doesn't look like Sports Hub is doing a high school division this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 02:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We know what we have with Coach D! We don't want to lose him!
He has been the coach for over 15 years. He started the program and has directed it very well thus far. We don't want him coaching anywhere but Sayville. What upsets me is this is NOT a coaching issue or a performance issue. He is personable, positive and encouraging to all grade levels and skill levels. He's highly involved and coaches 12 months out of the year. He cannot be replaced. Let the community vote or have a say!


You let the community vote when you elected your BOE. Maybe your community will remember this when they vote for your next board

Its time for the Superintendent to be removed. This comes from him. He led the board into a few situations in the last few years that made the BOE look bad and almost cost members their seats in recent elections to some radicals. The most recent besides this is the gross over estimate of expenditures to the tune of 30 million. The common thread in all these situations is that they lead to the eroding of public trust in the quality individuals who make up the board. He is their advisor.


Agreed 100%. Reinstate Coach D and let the Super walk off into the sunset. DO THE RIGHT THING BY THE PROGRAM AND THE KIDS.


How did that BOE meeting go? None of you showed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 02:44 AM
Still going on, maybe?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 04:01 AM
The Sayville lacrosse community has been asked for months now to allow Coach D to follow the districts process. But I can tell you if he is not reinstated all heck will break loose.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 01:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does anyone know of GIRLS high school winter leagues on LI? Doesn't look like Sports Hub is doing a high school division this year.


Not sure, but I wasn't a fan of Hub. Not very organized.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 01:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville lacrosse community has been asked for months now to allow Coach D to follow the districts process. But I can tell you if he is not reinstated all heck will break loose.


With a 25 parent protest? LOL Move on my friend. Maybe if you took an interest in the total HS package of education, athletics and clubs and went to a few BOE meetings before all this you would have just a little credibility. Sadly you didn't so you get what you get.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 02:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville lacrosse community has been asked for months now to allow Coach D to follow the districts process. But I can tell you if he is not reinstated all heck will break loose.


With a 25 parent protest? LOL Move on my friend. Maybe if you took an interest in the total HS package of education, athletics and clubs and went to a few BOE meetings before all this you would have just a little credibility. Sadly you didn't so you get what you get.


Stop misdirecting the thread. This issue is about what is best for the lacrosse program, period. Why would the parents of the kid who plays trumpet in the band care? All it takes is one labor lawsuit and this issue blows up. Easily filed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 02:24 PM
Sorry, do not want to go back and read the entire thread. Can someone please give the reason for the coach being removed? Also, is the coach a teacher in the district?

Thanks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 03:21 PM
18 year teacher and coach at sayville. He started the boys program in 1997
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 04:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, do not want to go back and read the entire thread. Can someone please give the reason for the coach being removed? Also, is the coach a teacher in the district?

Thanks


Friend, your guess is as good as mine. From what I can gather, assistant coaches were axed for JV lacrosse. Parents responded by researching the insurance liability and found the increased exposure of only having one coach far outweighed the few thousand dollars in salary that was allocated for JV coaches. Somehow this became the fault of Coach D and it was decided not to bring him back. The Super blames the Board, the Board blames the Super.

Bottom line, this is all ego driven. The best man for the job is Coach D, he should be reinstated. The ONLY people who don't want him to return are those not involved with the program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 05:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville lacrosse community has been asked for months now to allow Coach D to follow the districts process. But I can tell you if he is not reinstated all heck will break loose.


With a 25 parent protest? LOL Move on my friend. Maybe if you took an interest in the total HS package of education, athletics and clubs and went to a few BOE meetings before all this you would have just a little credibility. Sadly you didn't so you get what you get.


what a misguided statement of the BOE process. You vote in a brd and you trust they will do what is right when you catch wind they do something against your wishes you raise the issue if not addressed to your liking you get involved.

Stop with the go to all meetings they are not dare i say convenient especially for those that give a lot to a community and donate their time elsewhere.

Now for those stating education vs sports and clubs. shame on you HS is the complete package once we realize this we will all be a bit better
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 05:29 PM
Think you have it bad, try living in sachem. North varsity coach just took a leave of absence to go coach at Stony Brook. East varsity coach wants nothing to do with anything other than his team and the budget is a mess.

Good luck to Sachem Lacrosse. Houses are for sale in my district.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, do not want to go back and read the entire thread. Can someone please give the reason for the coach being removed? Also, is the coach a teacher in the district?

Thanks


Friend, your guess is as good as mine. From what I can gather, assistant coaches were axed for JV lacrosse. Parents responded by researching the insurance liability and found the increased exposure of only having one coach far outweighed the few thousand dollars in salary that was allocated for JV coaches. Somehow this became the fault of Coach D and it was decided not to bring him back. The Super blames the Board, the Board blames the Super.

Bottom line, this is all ego driven. The best man for the job is Coach D, he should be reinstated. The ONLY people who don't want him to return are those not involved with the program.


And if you believe that line I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you! The assistant coach was the straw that broke the camels back. He lied to the community about it and made the super/board look foolish. But before that, there were numerous complaints against him. Please don't believe the one guy posting all of the positive mumbo jumbo. His kid is a senior this year and he was expecting that he would play now. With a new coach there will be no promises of playing time. His kid will need to earn it like everyone else.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The Sayville lacrosse community has been asked for months now to allow Coach D to follow the districts process. But I can tell you if he is not reinstated all heck will break loose.


With a 25 parent protest? LOL Move on my friend. Maybe if you took an interest in the total HS package of education, athletics and clubs and went to a few BOE meetings before all this you would have just a little credibility. Sadly you didn't so you get what you get.


what a misguided statement of the BOE process. You vote in a brd and you trust they will do what is right when you catch wind they do something against your wishes you raise the issue if not addressed to your liking you get involved.

Stop with the go to all meetings they are not dare i say convenient especially for those that give a lot to a community and donate their time elsewhere.

Now for those stating education vs sports and clubs. shame on you HS is the complete package once we realize this we will all be a bit better


I agree that HS is the complete package. The lacrosse program is not going anywhere. It will just have a new coach. Clubs get new advisers, classes get taught by new teachers, teams get coaches by new coaches. Life goes on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, do not want to go back and read the entire thread. Can someone please give the reason for the coach being removed? Also, is the coach a teacher in the district?

Thanks


Friend, your guess is as good as mine. From what I can gather, assistant coaches were axed for JV lacrosse. Parents responded by researching the insurance liability and found the increased exposure of only having one coach far outweighed the few thousand dollars in salary that was allocated for JV coaches. Somehow this became the fault of Coach D and it was decided not to bring him back. The Super blames the Board, the Board blames the Super.

Bottom line, this is all ego driven. The best man for the job is Coach D, he should be reinstated. The ONLY people who don't want him to return are those not involved with the program.


And if you believe that line I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you! The assistant coach was the straw that broke the camels back. He lied to the community about it and made the super/board look foolish. But before that, there were numerous complaints against him. Please don't believe the one guy posting all of the positive mumbo jumbo. His kid is a senior this year and he was expecting that he would play now. With a new coach there will be no promises of playing time. His kid will need to earn it like everyone else.


Coach D's son is NOT a senior? You are posting lies. Numerous complaints? From whom and about what? I've been involved with the Sayville program via my kids for years and haven't heard a single complaint. Please elaborate and ask for your fictitious and slanderous post to be removed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 07:12 PM
Is there a booster club? they are the ones that usually cause the most problems after gaining access. And they are the ones who tend to get hurt during transitions
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sorry, do not want to go back and read the entire thread. Can someone please give the reason for the coach being removed? Also, is the coach a teacher in the district?

Thanks


Friend, your guess is as good as mine. From what I can gather, assistant coaches were axed for JV lacrosse. Parents responded by researching the insurance liability and found the increased exposure of only having one coach far outweighed the few thousand dollars in salary that was allocated for JV coaches. Somehow this became the fault of Coach D and it was decided not to bring him back. The Super blames the Board, the Board blames the Super.

Bottom line, this is all ego driven. The best man for the job is Coach D, he should be reinstated. The ONLY people who don't want him to return are those not involved with the program.


And if you believe that line I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you! The assistant coach was the straw that broke the camels back. He lied to the community about it and made the super/board look foolish. But before that, there were numerous complaints against him. Please don't believe the one guy posting all of the positive mumbo jumbo. His kid is a senior this year and he was expecting that he would play now. With a new coach there will be no promises of playing time. His kid will need to earn it like everyone else.


Coach D's son is NOT a senior? You are posting lies. Numerous complaints? From whom and about what? I've been involved with the Sayville program via my kids for years and haven't heard a single complaint. Please elaborate and ask for your fictitious and slanderous post to be removed.


I think he means you, not the coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 08:02 PM
It's been established that there had been an oversight about informing the coach about the JV assistant. The AD informed him sometime in January, even the AD can admit to that .Coach D son is still in the middle school 7th or 8th grade. Please if your here to stir the pot, take a walk
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 08:36 PM
Coach D just finalized adopting a 19 year old hold back from Maryland. It's supposed to be his secret weapon. Word got out and they board of Ed was angry because it threw the enrollment figures off. So the decided to fire him. C'mon, if you cared about education and went to a board meeting you would know this. You people are so out of touch. You must all be friends with that lady who's a shade of Aqua Blue in Sayville..... Lol crazy..
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 09:36 PM
How could anyone in the sayville lacrosse community have an issue with the Coach? Have you seen other programs? Have you watched the teams he's coached compete year after year? Let's consider ourselves fortunate and fight for Coach D to be reinstated! I've been waiting years for my son to be of age to be on his team. Was there any talk of the position at the board meeting?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 09:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It's been established that there had been an oversight about informing the coach about the JV assistant. The AD informed him sometime in January, even the AD can admit to that .Coach D son is still in the middle school 7th or 8th grade. Please if your here to stir the pot, take a walk


Stop drinking the purple cool aid. The board and AD vehemently deny that they withheld info from him. In fact, they are adamant about the fact that he WAS informed with the other coaches the prior spring. It was discussed at numerous meetings. I don't know where you're getting your info, but it's obviously coming from the coaches camp.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/06/15 10:32 PM
Why do you think you know so much? Why don't you ask the AD? You are obviously not a lax parent in the district but are close to the goings on? I've spoken to 3 of the coaches that were at that meeting. The all told me nothing was said about JV assistants being cut. One of the coaches was from the biggest program in town.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/07/15 04:44 AM
Funny just heard a certain town has almost bred the top goalies. 2016 top returner from 2015 2017 91 SJB 2018 express Cham. 2020 crush. 2021 express.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/08/15 12:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do you think you know so much? Why don't you ask the AD? You are obviously not a lax parent in the district but are close to the goings on? I've spoken to 3 of the coaches that were at that meeting. The all told me nothing was said about JV assistants being cut. One of the coaches was from the biggest program in town.


This situation is making our town's leaders look like petty egomaniacs. The coach works is tail off for the kids, is totally committed to getting the kids to be the best players and people they can be. My oldest son hardly played yet he always referred to coach CD in the warmest terms and repeated phrases he used to motivate the boys. He's obviously had a very positive impact on 100's of Sayville kids over the years. That's the guy I want influencing and shaping our kids. Bring back the guy who cares the most AND runs a highly successful program.
Posted By: Anonymous Spring Lacrosse - 11/08/15 01:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do you think you know so much? Why don't you ask the AD? You are obviously not a lax parent in the district but are close to the goings on? I've spoken to 3 of the coaches that were at that meeting. The all told me nothing was said about JV assistants being cut. One of the coaches was from the biggest program in town.


This situation is making our town's leaders look like petty egomaniacs. The coach works is tail off for the kids, is totally committed to getting the kids to be the best players and people they can be. My oldest son hardly played yet he always referred to coach CD in the warmest terms and repeated phrases he used to motivate the boys. He's obviously had a very positive impact on 100's of Sayville kids over the years. That's the guy I want influencing and shaping our kids. Bring back the guy who cares the most AND runs a highly successful program.


Let it go. Your repetitive complaints on a message board aren't going to change anything. This is getting old.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/08/15 09:29 PM
He left for personal/family reasons....went to HHH.

I heard one of the PW assistants is going to be the new Head. They lost a lot of guys from last year
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do you think you know so much? Why don't you ask the AD? You are obviously not a lax parent in the district but are close to the goings on? I've spoken to 3 of the coaches that were at that meeting. The all told me nothing was said about JV assistants being cut. One of the coaches was from the biggest program in town.


This situation is making our town's leaders look like petty egomaniacs. The coach works is tail off for the kids, is totally committed to getting the kids to be the best players and people they can be. My oldest son hardly played yet he always referred to coach CD in the warmest terms and repeated phrases he used to motivate the boys. He's obviously had a very positive impact on 100's of Sayville kids over the years. That's the guy I want influencing and shaping our kids. Bring back the guy who cares the most AND runs a highly successful program.


Let it go. Your repetitive complaints on a message board aren't going to change anything. This is getting old.


Whining parents doing anything to get their kids playing time is getting old.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 03:58 PM
The Sayville Varsity coach is unpolitical. He's not promising anyone playing time. They have always played the best kids. PERIOD! WOW this one guy has it out for coach D , what a shame. The varsity team and program will never be the same. And don't come back now and say "yeah it will get better". Open your eyes, look around at suffolk and Nassau, there are only a few programs in the top spots every year. It's no mistake Sayville has been in the County Championship 4x in 10 years and deep into the playoffs every year. They been running a great program for years. They can't pay any coach enough to do what Coach D has been doing. Why don't we ask the other teams in their league to evaluate the Sayville program? Coaches I've spoken to can't believe what's going on. It's no wonder most of the coaches in the league have contacted him to take their programs over. If we lose Coach D, we will never get him back. Hate to say this but I'm glad my son graduated and was fortunate to be coached by him. Sayville your making a huge mistake.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 04:02 PM
Lacrosse was a wonderful game from the 1970 - 2005. Now whining parents and possible scholarships create all this venom. I see club directors jumping in for the money (there was never money in lacrosse) people who never played bring coaching issues to school districts, "head" coaches looking for gigs in a district just so they can coach their kid and millions of other influences on the kids and the game. Sad to see. wish the kids could just play in the moment not deal with all the BS. If they are god enough they may play in college but all the garbage, whining and posturing will not matter then. Seen many great HS players become role players in top division 1 programs and if they cannot handle it, it is generally over for them. Live in the moment and enjoy. You can't get the time back
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 04:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do you think you know so much? Why don't you ask the AD? You are obviously not a lax parent in the district but are close to the goings on? I've spoken to 3 of the coaches that were at that meeting. The all told me nothing was said about JV assistants being cut. One of the coaches was from the biggest program in town.


This situation is making our town's leaders look like petty egomaniacs. The coach works is tail off for the kids, is totally committed to getting the kids to be the best players and people they can be. My oldest son hardly played yet he always referred to coach CD in the warmest terms and repeated phrases he used to motivate the boys. He's obviously had a very positive impact on 100's of Sayville kids over the years. That's the guy I want influencing and shaping our kids. Bring back the guy who cares the most AND runs a highly successful program.


Let it go. Your repetitive complaints on a message board aren't going to change anything. This is getting old.


Whining parents doing anything to get their kids playing time is getting old.


School administrators (and all employers) are not legally allowed to discuss personnel matters with the public. Additionally, they are also not allowed to discuss individual student matters with the public.

Consequently, the REAL reason for the termination could be justified. But even if it's not, the system is what it is. If you don't like the system, then vote out the Board of Education in your respective districts. Better yet - run for office and get your like-minded friends to do the same. Put your voting "money" where your mouth is.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do you think you know so much? Why don't you ask the AD? You are obviously not a lax parent in the district but are close to the goings on? I've spoken to 3 of the coaches that were at that meeting. The all told me nothing was said about JV assistants being cut. One of the coaches was from the biggest program in town.


This situation is making our town's leaders look like petty egomaniacs. The coach works is tail off for the kids, is totally committed to getting the kids to be the best players and people they can be. My oldest son hardly played yet he always referred to coach CD in the warmest terms and repeated phrases he used to motivate the boys. He's obviously had a very positive impact on 100's of Sayville kids over the years. That's the guy I want influencing and shaping our kids. Bring back the guy who cares the most AND runs a highly successful program.


Let it go. Your repetitive complaints on a message board aren't going to change anything. This is getting old.


Whining parents doing anything to get their kids playing time is getting old.


School administrators (and all employers) are not legally allowed to discuss personnel matters with the public. Additionally, they are also not allowed to discuss individual student matters with the public.

Consequently, the REAL reason for the termination could be justified. But even if it's not, the system is what it is. If you don't like the system, then vote out the Board of Education in your respective districts. Better yet - run for office and get your like-minded friends to do the same. Put your voting "money" where your mouth is.



There is no "real" reason and that fact is widely known and why we are in the predicament that we find ourselves in. I vote people into office who I think will honorably represent my views and ideals. My child is a hard working student athlete who has been looking forward to playing for Coach D for the last two years. I'm not going to shrug my shoulders and say "oh well", when everyone close to the situation knows this decision was borne from emotion and embarrassment brought on by well informed parents who refused to be treated like children. Swallow your pride and do what's in the best interest of the student athletes who want to have a great varsity lacrosse experience at Sayville and become part of the tradition.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 05:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why do you think you know so much? Why don't you ask the AD? You are obviously not a lax parent in the district but are close to the goings on? I've spoken to 3 of the coaches that were at that meeting. The all told me nothing was said about JV assistants being cut. One of the coaches was from the biggest program in town.


This situation is making our town's leaders look like petty egomaniacs. The coach works is tail off for the kids, is totally committed to getting the kids to be the best players and people they can be. My oldest son hardly played yet he always referred to coach CD in the warmest terms and repeated phrases he used to motivate the boys. He's obviously had a very positive impact on 100's of Sayville kids over the years. That's the guy I want influencing and shaping our kids. Bring back the guy who cares the most AND runs a highly successful program.


Let it go. Your repetitive complaints on a message board aren't going to change anything. This is getting old.


Whining parents doing anything to get their kids playing time is getting old.


School administrators (and all employers) are not legally allowed to discuss personnel matters with the public. Additionally, they are also not allowed to discuss individual student matters with the public.

Consequently, the REAL reason for the termination could be justified. But even if it's not, the system is what it is. If you don't like the system, then vote out the Board of Education in your respective districts. Better yet - run for office and get your like-minded friends to do the same. Put your voting "money" where your mouth is.



There is no "real" reason and that fact is widely known and why we are in the predicament that we find ourselves in. I vote people into office who I think will honorably represent my views and ideals. My child is a hard working student athlete who has been looking forward to playing for Coach D for the last two years. I'm not going to shrug my shoulders and say "oh well", when everyone close to the situation knows this decision was borne from emotion and embarrassment brought on by well informed parents who refused to be treated like children. Swallow your pride and do what's in the best interest of the student athletes who want to have a great varsity lacrosse experience at Sayville and become part of the tradition.


Sounds good in theory, but it doesn't change employment law. Good school administrators don't tell tales "out of school". The downside of having public meetings is that the full story is only known by one side. Board of Ed meetings are great places for parents to "vent" on PENDING issues, but the chances of getting someone reinstated are slim to none once the trigger has been pulled.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 05:30 PM

All this talk about not bringing back the coach but 0 talk of who is taking over. Almost seems like there is no one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 05:47 PM
Sayville Middle School parent here. I agree that coach should be reinstated. If it is a done deal though appoint the new coach already. Other teams are practicing. If my son was playing varsity now I would be pissed! Stop the nonsense and make a decision either way so that the team can get to work.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 05:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Why do you think you know so much? Why don't you ask the AD? You are obviously not a lax parent in the district but are close to the goings on? I've spoken to 3 of the coaches that were at that meeting. The all told me nothing was said about JV assistants being cut. One of the coaches was from the biggest program in town.


This situation is making our town's leaders look like petty egomaniacs. The coach works is tail off for the kids, is totally committed to getting the kids to be the best players and people they can be. My oldest son hardly played yet he always referred to coach CD in the warmest terms and repeated phrases he used to motivate the boys. He's obviously had a very positive impact on 100's of Sayville kids over the years. That's the guy I want influencing and shaping our kids. Bring back the guy who cares the most AND runs a highly successful program.


Whining parents doing anything to get their kids playing time is getting old.


School administrators (and all employers) are not legally allowed to discuss personnel matters with the public. Additionally, they are also not allowed to discuss individual student matters with the public.

Consequently, the REAL reason for the termination could be justified. But even if it's not, the system is what it is. If you don't like the system, then vote out the Board of Education in your respective districts. Better yet - run for office and get your like-minded friends to do the same. Put your voting "money" where your mouth is.



There is no "real" reason and that fact is widely known and why we are in the predicament that we find ourselves in. I vote people into office who I think will honorably represent my views and ideals. My child is a hard working student athlete who has been looking forward to playing for Coach D for the last two years. I'm not going to shrug my shoulders and say "oh well", when everyone close to the situation knows this decision was borne from emotion and embarrassment brought on by well informed parents who refused to be treated like children. Swallow your pride and do what's in the best interest of the student athletes who want to have a great varsity lacrosse experience at Sayville and become part of the tradition.


Sounds good in theory, but it doesn't change employment law. Good school administrators don't tell tales "out of school". The downside of having public meetings is that the full story is only known by one side. Board of Ed meetings are great places for parents to "vent" on PENDING issues, but the chances of getting someone reinstated are slim to none once the trigger has been pulled.


The Board is conducting an open search for the Varsity Lacrosse coaching position, is Coach D's name in the running? Pretty simple process to reinstate. If he is indeed the best candidate to fill the position, hire the guy and be done with it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous

All this talk about not bringing back the coach but 0 talk of who is taking over. Almost seems like there is no one.


arnt both answers just a "FOIL" away. Just submit paperwork.

When it comes to Public School employment I am close to certain the public is allowed to Know the reason someone is terminated. If a contract wasn't extended that is different.

If a new person is hired the public is also entitled to know who and for how much they were granted to fill the spot.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 06:10 PM
Is it true that Suffolk is going back to the old alignment?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 06:12 PM
Coaching is a year to year contract.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 06:19 PM
FOIL for a High School Lax coach???? I have never heard of a coach's name being withheld, for any reason. If Coach D is gone, people need to know who is going to take over. Off-season work has already started.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

All this talk about not bringing back the coach but 0 talk of who is taking over. Almost seems like there is no one.


arnt both answers just a "FOIL" away. Just submit paperwork.

When it comes to Public School employment I am close to certain the public is allowed to Know the reason someone is terminated. If a contract wasn't extended that is different.

If a new person is hired the public is also entitled to know who and for how much they were granted to fill the spot.


The Freedom of Information Law ("FOIL") does not give the public access to every bit of information inside an employee's personnel file. It can, however, provide very general information such as name, date of hire, initial position, starting salary, final position, date of separation, and ending salary, type of separation. There is no law that requires any employer to disclose the actual REASON for the separation.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 07:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
FOIL for a High School Lax coach???? I have never heard of a coach's name being withheld, for any reason. If Coach D is gone, people need to know who is going to take over. Off-season work has already started.


relax, our school has hired a coach a week before tryouts. Optional open gyms do not require a coach. Do you people read what you write? Anyone concerned about the SAT's this weekend? Its a game worry about the classroom because that is what your BOE is worried about
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

All this talk about not bringing back the coach but 0 talk of who is taking over. Almost seems like there is no one.


arnt both answers just a "FOIL" away. Just submit paperwork.

When it comes to Public School employment I am close to certain the public is allowed to Know the reason someone is terminated. If a contract wasn't extended that is different.

If a new person is hired the public is also entitled to know who and for how much they were granted to fill the spot.


The Freedom of Information Law ("FOIL") does not give the public access to every bit of information inside an employee's personnel file. It can, however, provide very general information such as name, date of hire, initial position, starting salary, final position, date of separation, and ending salary, type of separation. There is no law that requires any employer to disclose the actual REASON for the separation.


...with the exception of a subpoena, which has to be signed by a judge.

Now that we've beaten this horse to death, how about we all get back to the topic of high school lacrosse.
Posted By: B_O_T_C Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/09/15 07:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous

All this talk about not bringing back the coach but 0 talk of who is taking over. Almost seems like there is no one.


arnt both answers just a "FOIL" away. Just submit paperwork.

When it comes to Public School employment I am close to certain the public is allowed to Know the reason someone is terminated. If a contract wasn't extended that is different.

If a new person is hired the public is also entitled to know who and for how much they were granted to fill the spot.


The Freedom of Information Law ("FOIL") does not give the public access to every bit of information inside an employee's personnel file. It can, however, provide very general information such as name, date of hire, initial position, starting salary, final position, date of separation, and ending salary, type of separation. There is no law that requires any employer to disclose the actual REASON for the separation.


...with the exception of a subpoena, which has to be signed by a judge.

Now that we've beaten this horse to death, how about we all get back to the topic of high school lacrosse.


Yessssssss, please!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/10/15 03:06 PM
It is unfortunate but High School Lacrosse (boys and girls) has become a mess here on Long Island. Parents, High School Coaches, Club Directors and College coaches all contribute to the problems. The players are caught in the middle and even if they have grounded realistic parents it can be very stressful for the players.

Parents: Many of us are crazy and unrealistic. Many of us are bitter, jealous and hateful. Many of us create toxic and unpleasant sidelines. Not all are bad but there are a lot that cause all sorts of issues.

High School Coaches: There are some really good ones. There are also some really bad ones. There are incompetents and there are coaches who do not care. Some are misguided and there are bullies. There are coaches who allow a financial conflict of interest to influence their decisions. There are also plenty of arrogant coaches.

Club Directors: Some good, some bad but at the end of the day the parents can choose. The parent can choose what club to play for (as long as HS coach does not coerce the player). The player and parent can choose not to play club at all.

College Coaches: College coaches lining the sidelines of 9th and 10th grade games is great for the top players but it can negatively impact many of the players. It also fuels the fires of the crazy unrealistic parents. In some cases it also impacts the insecure HS coach, many do not like it when players are recruited before they play a varsity game.

High School sports are supposed to be about the players. Its not supposed to be about the coaches or the parents or getting recruited. My kids all play multiple sports and none of the other sports are anything like lacrosse in any way. Parents, High School Coaches, College Coaches and Club Owners all contribute to the mess known as Long Island Lacrosse. Forgot, some youth league directors and youth coaches are problems as well.

Good luck to all who try to navigate this crazy landscape.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/10/15 03:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is unfortunate but High School Lacrosse (boys and girls) has become a mess here on Long Island. Parents, High School Coaches, Club Directors and College coaches all contribute to the problems. The players are caught in the middle and even if they have grounded realistic parents it can be very stressful for the players.

Parents: Many of us are crazy and unrealistic. Many of us are bitter, jealous and hateful. Many of us create toxic and unpleasant sidelines. Not all are bad but there are a lot that cause all sorts of issues.

High School Coaches: There are some really good ones. There are also some really bad ones. There are incompetents and there are coaches who do not care. Some are misguided and there are bullies. There are coaches who allow a financial conflict of interest to influence their decisions. There are also plenty of arrogant coaches.

Club Directors: Some good, some bad but at the end of the day the parents can choose. The parent can choose what club to play for (as long as HS coach does not coerce the player). The player and parent can choose not to play club at all.

College Coaches: College coaches lining the sidelines of 9th and 10th grade games is great for the top players but it can negatively impact many of the players. It also fuels the fires of the crazy unrealistic parents. In some cases it also impacts the insecure HS coach, many do not like it when players are recruited before they play a varsity game.

High School sports are supposed to be about the players. Its not supposed to be about the coaches or the parents or getting recruited. My kids all play multiple sports and none of the other sports are anything like lacrosse in any way. Parents, High School Coaches, College Coaches and Club Owners all contribute to the mess known as Long Island Lacrosse. Forgot, some youth league directors and youth coaches are problems as well.

Good luck to all who try to navigate this crazy landscape.


All true. My bottom line is simple. I want what is best for our program and my kids, the interests are aligned. I want my kids playing varsity lacrosse at Sayville HS for Coach CD.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/10/15 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is unfortunate but High School Lacrosse (boys and girls) has become a mess here on Long Island. Parents, High School Coaches, Club Directors and College coaches all contribute to the problems. The players are caught in the middle and even if they have grounded realistic parents it can be very stressful for the players.

Parents: Many of us are crazy and unrealistic. Many of us are bitter, jealous and hateful. Many of us create toxic and unpleasant sidelines. Not all are bad but there are a lot that cause all sorts of issues.

High School Coaches: There are some really good ones. There are also some really bad ones. There are incompetents and there are coaches who do not care. Some are misguided and there are bullies. There are coaches who allow a financial conflict of interest to influence their decisions. There are also plenty of arrogant coaches.

Club Directors: Some good, some bad but at the end of the day the parents can choose. The parent can choose what club to play for (as long as HS coach does not coerce the player). The player and parent can choose not to play club at all.

College Coaches: College coaches lining the sidelines of 9th and 10th grade games is great for the top players but it can negatively impact many of the players. It also fuels the fires of the crazy unrealistic parents. In some cases it also impacts the insecure HS coach, many do not like it when players are recruited before they play a varsity game.

High School sports are supposed to be about the players. Its not supposed to be about the coaches or the parents or getting recruited. My kids all play multiple sports and none of the other sports are anything like lacrosse in any way. Parents, High School Coaches, College Coaches and Club Owners all contribute to the mess known as Long Island Lacrosse. Forgot, some youth league directors and youth coaches are problems as well.

Good luck to all who try to navigate this crazy landscape.


YOU ARE A 100% RIGHT! As a parent of multiple children who all play 3+ competitive sports a year, Lacrosse by far has the worst sidelines and sport tension. In every other sport we root for the team AND individual accomplishment. In Lax the parents, clubs, booster programs and recruiting make it so tough to enjoy. Parents don't talk, kids don't pass and everyone is playing for themselves. That's why in our town enrollment is dropping like a brick at the younger ages and its a shame
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/10/15 04:19 PM
How did Hofstra go this past weekend?

You want to take LI lacrosse lets talk these two events. I know HS football is still active so it these teams may be missing some key players, but you can still get a good look at some teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/10/15 05:04 PM
As bad as it is with the boys, I think it's even WORSE with girls. 10th graders are ready to quit the sport because they're not committed and not on the top travel team. It's just insane.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/10/15 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is unfortunate but High School Lacrosse (boys and girls) has become a mess here on Long Island. Parents, High School Coaches, Club Directors and College coaches all contribute to the problems. The players are caught in the middle and even if they have grounded realistic parents it can be very stressful for the players.

Parents: Many of us are crazy and unrealistic. Many of us are bitter, jealous and hateful. Many of us create toxic and unpleasant sidelines. Not all are bad but there are a lot that cause all sorts of issues.

High School Coaches: There are some really good ones. There are also some really bad ones. There are incompetents and there are coaches who do not care. Some are misguided and there are bullies. There are coaches who allow a financial conflict of interest to influence their decisions. There are also plenty of arrogant coaches.

Club Directors: Some good, some bad but at the end of the day the parents can choose. The parent can choose what club to play for (as long as HS coach does not coerce the player). The player and parent can choose not to play club at all.

College Coaches: College coaches lining the sidelines of 9th and 10th grade games is great for the top players but it can negatively impact many of the players. It also fuels the fires of the crazy unrealistic parents. In some cases it also impacts the insecure HS coach, many do not like it when players are recruited before they play a varsity game.

High School sports are supposed to be about the players. Its not supposed to be about the coaches or the parents or getting recruited. My kids all play multiple sports and none of the other sports are anything like lacrosse in any way. Parents, High School Coaches, College Coaches and Club Owners all contribute to the mess known as Long Island Lacrosse. Forgot, some youth league directors and youth coaches are problems as well.

Good luck to all who try to navigate this crazy landscape.


YOU ARE A 100% RIGHT! As a parent of multiple children who all play 3+ competitive sports a year, Lacrosse by far has the worst sidelines and sport tension. In every other sport we root for the team AND individual accomplishment. In Lax the parents, clubs, booster programs and recruiting make it so tough to enjoy. Parents don't talk, kids don't pass and everyone is playing for themselves. That's why in our town enrollment is dropping like a brick at the younger ages and its a shame
. And it starts and ends with the Parents attitudes!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/10/15 06:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
It is unfortunate but High School Lacrosse (boys and girls) has become a mess here on Long Island. Parents, High School Coaches, Club Directors and College coaches all contribute to the problems. The players are caught in the middle and even if they have grounded realistic parents it can be very stressful for the players.

Parents: Many of us are crazy and unrealistic. Many of us are bitter, jealous and hateful. Many of us create toxic and unpleasant sidelines. Not all are bad but there are a lot that cause all sorts of issues.

High School Coaches: There are some really good ones. There are also some really bad ones. There are incompetents and there are coaches who do not care. Some are misguided and there are bullies. There are coaches who allow a financial conflict of interest to influence their decisions. There are also plenty of arrogant coaches.

Club Directors: Some good, some bad but at the end of the day the parents can choose. The parent can choose what club to play for (as long as HS coach does not coerce the player). The player and parent can choose not to play club at all.

College Coaches: College coaches lining the sidelines of 9th and 10th grade games is great for the top players but it can negatively impact many of the players. It also fuels the fires of the crazy unrealistic parents. In some cases it also impacts the insecure HS coach, many do not like it when players are recruited before they play a varsity game.

High School sports are supposed to be about the players. Its not supposed to be about the coaches or the parents or getting recruited. My kids all play multiple sports and none of the other sports are anything like lacrosse in any way. Parents, High School Coaches, College Coaches and Club Owners all contribute to the mess known as Long Island Lacrosse. Forgot, some youth league directors and youth coaches are problems as well.

Good luck to all who try to navigate this crazy landscape.


YOU ARE A 100% RIGHT! As a parent of multiple children who all play 3+ competitive sports a year, Lacrosse by far has the worst sidelines and sport tension. In every other sport we root for the team AND individual accomplishment. In Lax the parents, clubs, booster programs and recruiting make it so tough to enjoy. Parents don't talk, kids don't pass and everyone is playing for themselves. That's why in our town enrollment is dropping like a brick at the younger ages and its a shame
. And it starts and ends with the Parents attitudes!


You are right but the parents don't want to be liked they want their kids called up, they want their kids name in Newsday and they want their kid to be the first to VERBAL that is why they are there. Not for the team, just for themselves.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/10/15 09:08 PM
7.4m high school athletes.
460,000 play in college
That is 6% of HS players continuing to play
Of the 6% about 2% get athletic money
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/11/15 01:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
7.4m high school athletes.
460,000 play in college
That is 6% of HS players continuing to play
Of the 6% about 2% get athletic money


That's not my focus. I want my sons to learn life lessons, like I did, while playing the sport. Learn that hard work will yield good results, learn what it means to be a good teammate, learn how to be a leader, learn how to listen and then mentor younger kids, learn self discipline..... I want my guys to learn these things in the environment that was created by the founder of the program, not some flunky the BoE finds on a coaching scrap heap and plugs in because they have a personal beef with the current coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/11/15 02:08 PM
And now fl$ wants to create a town championship tournament. From, get this, 2nd grade up. Can't imagine any towns going for this. PAL is for everyone. If you want more competition play club...in the summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/11/15 05:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
7.4m high school athletes.
460,000 play in college
That is 6% of HS players continuing to play
Of the 6% about 2% get athletic money


That's not my focus. I want my sons to learn life lessons, like I did, while playing the sport. Learn that hard work will yield good results, learn what it means to be a good teammate, learn how to be a leader, learn how to listen and then mentor younger kids, learn self discipline..... I want my guys to learn these things in the environment that was created by the founder of the program, not some flunky the BoE finds on a coaching scrap heap and plugs in because they have a personal beef with the current coach.


you are setting your kid up for failure if he is incapable of accepting change whether good or bad. Move on
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/11/15 05:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
7.4m high school athletes.
460,000 play in college
That is 6% of HS players continuing to play
Of the 6% about 2% get athletic money


That's not my focus. I want my sons to learn life lessons, like I did, while playing the sport. Learn that hard work will yield good results, learn what it means to be a good teammate, learn how to be a leader, learn how to listen and then mentor younger kids, learn self discipline..... I want my guys to learn these things in the environment that was created by the founder of the program, not some flunky the BoE finds on a coaching scrap heap and plugs in because they have a personal beef with the current coach.


you are setting your kid up for failure if he is incapable of accepting change whether good or bad. Move on


Great point.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/11/15 05:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
7.4m high school athletes.
460,000 play in college
That is 6% of HS players continuing to play
Of the 6% about 2% get athletic money


That's not my focus. I want my sons to learn life lessons, like I did, while playing the sport. Learn that hard work will yield good results, learn what it means to be a good teammate, learn how to be a leader, learn how to listen and then mentor younger kids, learn self discipline..... I want my guys to learn these things in the environment that was created by the founder of the program, not some flunky the BoE finds on a coaching scrap heap and plugs in because they have a personal beef with the current coach.


you are setting your kid up for failure if he is incapable of accepting change whether good or bad. Move on


Or he learns from his father that you fight for what you believe to be right. Accepting change? That's a weak line of reasoning. Are you a board member or a parent who is hoping they bring in a sycophant who will be led by the squeaky wheel parents?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/11/15 06:14 PM
This whole Sayville discussion is the very reason why I say: Get rid of all HS sports. You can play every sport imaginable in a club or travel setting at a much higher level. Your son will receive much better coaching, will play at his appropriate level, will get playing time at that level, and will get the looks from the college coaches commensurate with his play. Sorry, but this HS thing has just run its course, in most districts the school season is an utter waste of time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/11/15 07:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
7.4m high school athletes.
460,000 play in college
That is 6% of HS players continuing to play
Of the 6% about 2% get athletic money


That's not my focus. I want my sons to learn life lessons, like I did, while playing the sport. Learn that hard work will yield good results, learn what it means to be a good teammate, learn how to be a leader, learn how to listen and then mentor younger kids, learn self discipline..... I want my guys to learn these things in the environment that was created by the founder of the program, not some flunky the BoE finds on a coaching scrap heap and plugs in because they have a personal beef with the current coach.


you are setting your kid up for failure if he is incapable of accepting change whether good or bad. Move on


Or he learns from his father that you fight for what you believe to be right. Accepting change? That's a weak line of reasoning. Are you a board member or a parent who is hoping they bring in a sycophant who will be led by the squeaky wheel parents?


Amen. I'll see some of you tomorrow night.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/11/15 08:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This whole Sayville discussion is the very reason why I say: Get rid of all HS sports. You can play every sport imaginable in a club or travel setting at a much higher level. Your son will receive much better coaching, will play at his appropriate level, will get playing time at that level, and will get the looks from the college coaches commensurate with his play. Sorry, but this HS thing has just run its course, in most districts the school season is an utter waste of time.
OK Debbie Downer you go do that, while all your childs classmates, neighbors and friends are having a great experience playing school sports together, creating memories that last a lifetime. Way to have pride in your community.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/11/15 08:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
7.4m high school athletes.
460,000 play in college
That is 6% of HS players continuing to play
Of the 6% about 2% get athletic money


That's not my focus. I want my sons to learn life lessons, like I did, while playing the sport. Learn that hard work will yield good results, learn what it means to be a good teammate, learn how to be a leader, learn how to listen and then mentor younger kids, learn self discipline..... I want my guys to learn these things in the environment that was created by the founder of the program, not some flunky the BoE finds on a coaching scrap heap and plugs in because they have a personal beef with the current coach.


you are setting your kid up for failure if he is incapable of accepting change whether good or bad. Move on


Or he learns from his father that you fight for what you believe to be right. Accepting change? That's a weak line of reasoning. Are you a board member or a parent who is hoping they bring in a sycophant who will be led by the squeaky wheel parents?


Or he learns from his father how to beat a dead horse incessantly. You're so passionate but don't give a damn enough to to go to the BOE meeting to voice your support or displeasure. So what you're saying is that you will teach your son to [lacrosse] and moan only to people who can do nothing to help his cause. Nice job, Captain Life Lesson. You're like a faucet that won't stop dropping. Go away and find some constructive means to further your cause. Your banter has run its course here.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/11/15 10:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This whole Sayville discussion is the very reason why I say: Get rid of all HS sports. You can play every sport imaginable in a club or travel setting at a much higher level. Your son will receive much better coaching, will play at his appropriate level, will get playing time at that level, and will get the looks from the college coaches commensurate with his play. Sorry, but this HS thing has just run its course, in most districts the school season is an utter waste of time.


Many of these club coaches are HS coaches. And if club was the only option, only kids with money would play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 12:38 AM
Sayville BOE Meeting tomorrow 11/12--8pm
Let's tell the BOE how we feel about their horrible decision to get rid of the guy that started our boys Lacrosse program. Let's also let them know we will be systematically voting every member of the BOE off.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 12:54 AM
Does anyone think Connetquot will be able to start strong again this year? Or was that a perfect storm last season?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 12:54 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sayville BOE Meeting tomorrow 11/12--8pm
Let's tell the BOE how we feel about their horrible decision to get rid of the guy that started our boys Lacrosse program. Let's also let them know we will be systematically voting every member of the BOE off.


lol 10 people in a district of thousands. Its over Johnnie. No way any BOE admits a mistake and changes course
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 12:56 AM
Playing with your high school is a fun thing. Kids you grew up with, playing sports after school. Club teams are kids all over long island, fun, don't get me wrong, but its not the same as friends you grew up with. Man, I'm not saying a high school team is better talent than a top club. It isn't, I get it. Our kids aren't making a living playing this sport. Maybe if they are lucky, 10 grand a year pocket cash. In my opinion, playing high school football, basketball and lacrosse was one of the most enjoyable time in my life. My son is in 9th grade, gets very good grades, I hope he enjoys his 4 years of high school sports like I did.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 01:54 AM
We know it's probably over. We just want to make sure the BOE knows who we are. It's too bad your kid wasn't involved with the program . I'll see you at the BOE meeting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 03:07 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This whole Sayville discussion is the very reason why I say: Get rid of all HS sports. You can play every sport imaginable in a club or travel setting at a much higher level. Your son will receive much better coaching, will play at his appropriate level, will get playing time at that level, and will get the looks from the college coaches commensurate with his play. Sorry, but this HS thing has just run its course, in most districts the school season is an utter waste of time.




Many of these club coaches are HS coaches. And if club was the only option, only kids with money would play.


Some of the TOP programs coaches are club coaches not the rest... takes money for everything life.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 01:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We know it's probably over. We just want to make sure the BOE knows who we are. It's too bad your kid wasn't involved with the program . I'll see you at the BOE meeting.


We as taxpayers and the parents of kids who will be affected by this decision deserve to know why Coach D is being fired. I want to know how the Board and Superintendent arrived at this decision.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 04:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We know it's probably over. We just want to make sure the BOE knows who we are. It's too bad your kid wasn't involved with the program . I'll see you at the BOE meeting.


We as taxpayers and the parents of kids who will be affected by this decision deserve to know why Coach D is being fired. I want to know how the Board and Superintendent arrived at this decision.


Stop typing because you keep making yourself look more and more clueless. Obviously you have never been to a board meeting for anything. Personal files are never discussed, EVER. Sorry mr smith, employee records and files are confidential...but why was he let go? sorry mr smith we cant discuss the reasons behind our decision. Did he do something wrong does someone not like him? mr smith you are an idiot, please step away from the mic and do us a favor don't come back even for something more important than lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We know it's probably over. We just want to make sure the BOE knows who we are. It's too bad your kid wasn't involved with the program . I'll see you at the BOE meeting.


We as taxpayers and the parents of kids who will be affected by this decision deserve to know why Coach D is being fired. I want to know how the Board and Superintendent arrived at this decision.


Stop typing because you keep making yourself look more and more clueless. Obviously you have never been to a board meeting for anything. Personal files are never discussed, EVER. Sorry mr smith, employee records and files are confidential...but why was he let go? sorry mr smith we cant discuss the reasons behind our decision. Did he do something wrong does someone not like him? mr smith you are an idiot, please step away from the mic and do us a favor don't come back even for something more important than lacrosse.


When did I suggest the reason for the firing would be discussed at the BoE meeting? Get off your soap box and go back to mowing lawns.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We know it's probably over. We just want to make sure the BOE knows who we are. It's too bad your kid wasn't involved with the program . I'll see you at the BOE meeting.


We as taxpayers and the parents of kids who will be affected by this decision deserve to know why Coach D is being fired. I want to know how the Board and Superintendent arrived at this decision.


Stop typing because you keep making yourself look more and more clueless. Obviously you have never been to a board meeting for anything. Personal files are never discussed, EVER. Sorry mr smith, employee records and files are confidential...but why was he let go? sorry mr smith we cant discuss the reasons behind our decision. Did he do something wrong does someone not like him? mr smith you are an idiot, please step away from the mic and do us a favor don't come back even for something more important than lacrosse.


Its not a secret, there is no REAL reason Coach D wasn't brought back so none will ever be given regardless of forum. I have to send a big "Thank you Superintendent WS" for screwing over my kid as you sneak off into retirement.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 08:08 PM
No that guy don't cut lawns. That guy is closer to the action. But, he is good friends with him. That's why this thing got legs. He's very close to the action and must attend the board meetings.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 08:30 PM
No that guy don't cut lawns. That guy is closer to the action. But, he is good friends with him. That's why this thing got legs. He's very close to the action and must attend the board meetings.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 08:45 PM
You think the lawn guy likes coach??? That's funny!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 09:05 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No that guy don't cut lawns. That guy is closer to the action. But, he is good friends with him. That's why this thing got legs. He's very close to the action and must attend the board meetings.


You must be the guy mowing lawns---Slingblade. "That guy don't cut lawns..." Geez, I hope your not on the Board.

See you tonight.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/12/15 11:16 PM
Sure hope someone post what actually happened at the board meeting tonight.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 01:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sure hope someone post what actually happened at the board meeting tonight.


I was stuck in the office, can't make it. Someone please convey what transpires tonight. Thank you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 01:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You think the lawn guy likes coach??? That's funny!


You think he even gives a rats a$$ about lacrosse at this point?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 01:58 AM
War is over Johnny
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 02:20 AM
Thanks Bob. The sayville kids lose. Great job guys.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 03:01 AM
Did they name a new coach?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 03:39 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did they name a new coach?


Barney the Purple Dinosaur will be coaching Sayville. He's Board of Ed approved and the Super really enjoys his old TV shows.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 11:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks Bob. The sayville kids lose. Great job guys.
save the drama and support the new coach. Now let's move on to spring lacrosse talk.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 03:20 PM
Is this a Sayville thread? Who cares about this third rate program?
Posted By: B_O_T_C Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 03:22 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is this a Sayville thread? Who cares about this third rate program?


So talk about something else. You just kept it going with your snide remark.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thanks Bob. The sayville kids lose. Great job guys.
save the drama and support the new coach. Now let's move on to spring lacrosse talk.


Who is the new coach?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 03:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did they name a new coach?


Yes, but they only told Sayville Royalty. The rest will find out in the next week. It's someone who's been involved with the program so you can quit complaining.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 03:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is this a Sayville thread? Who cares about this third rate program?


Third rate? You really can't be serious. If you have a topic that you care to post about, no one is stopping you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 04:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did they name a new coach?


Yes, but they only told Sayville Royalty. The rest will find out in the next week. It's someone who's been involved with the program so you can quit complaining.


Does Sayville loose many good players to the Catholics?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 04:55 PM
They will start losing kids to catholic schools now.
The new coach is the guy Coach D was fired for trying to save his job last year. It's a mess. Can't make this stuff up. Third rate program? Sayville been in county finals more than any other suffolk "B" program the last 10 years. Hope the new coaches and program success. I'll still take in a game or two. I'm sure Coach D will still be working with the sayville kids. Glad my son was able to experience 3 years as his coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Sayville Varsity coach - 11/13/15 05:17 PM
With all of the great high school lacrosse on Long Island, 6 weeks of Sayville comments? At least the SWR saga with Rotanz was interesting. You'd think Sayville was Massapequa or Syosset or Ward Melville or West Islip. We will see how good Sayville football and lacrosse will be when a certain someone leaves to play football in college.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 05:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is this a Sayville thread? Who cares about this third rate program?


Third rate? You really can't be serious. If you have a topic that you care to post about, no one is stopping you.


Sayville is a strong sports town across the board in many/most sports. Sad they ran guy out, but Sayville will always be strong, kids and parents are very sports orientated, which in turn led to some of the success the coach realized.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did they name a new coach?


Yes, but they only told Sayville Royalty. The rest will find out in the next week. It's someone who's been involved with the program so you can quit complaining.


Does Sayville loose many good players to the Catholics?


No, they don't at all. Most that go to Catholics go for academics not athletics.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 06:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is this a Sayville thread? Who cares about this third rate program?


Third rate? You really can't be serious. If you have a topic that you care to post about, no one is stopping you.


Sayville is a strong sports town across the board in many/most sports. Sad they ran guy out, but Sayville will always be strong, kids and parents are very sports orientated, which in turn led to some of the success the coach realized.


My boys all played for Coach D, went on to play in college and he was a great role model for each of them. You pompous idiots who caused this to happen and are supporting it can make all the BS excuses you want, this is NOT good for the program.
Thanks Coach D for all you did for our family. You were there when we needed you, I am truly sorry this has happened. Wherever you continue your coaching career will be better off with you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 07:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They will start losing kids to catholic schools now.
The new coach is the guy Coach D was fired for trying to save his job last year. It's a mess. Can't make this stuff up. Third rate program? Sayville been in county finals more than any other suffolk "B" program the last 10 years. Hope the new coaches and program success. I'll still take in a game or two. I'm sure Coach D will still be working with the sayville kids. Glad my son was able to experience 3 years as his coach.


What Catholic schools would you be referring to?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 07:46 PM
I think an interesting story line is the Massapequa teacher and defense coach going to rival Syosset while remaining a teacher in the school. Now that's an interesting development. That should make for lively discussions in the phys ed office.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 07:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think an interesting story line is the Massapequa teacher and defense coach going to rival Syosset while remaining a teacher in the school. Now that's an interesting development. That should make for lively discussions in the phys ed office.


Has Port chosen a head coach yet?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 08:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is this a Sayville thread? Who cares about this third rate program?


Third rate? You really can't be serious. If you have a topic that you care to post about, no one is stopping you.


Sayville is a strong sports town across the board in many/most sports. Sad they ran guy out, but Sayville will always be strong, kids and parents are very sports orientated, which in turn led to some of the success the coach realized.


My boys all played for Coach D, went on to play in college and he was a great role model for each of them. You pompous idiots who caused this to happen and are supporting it can make all the BS excuses you want, this is NOT good for the program.
Thanks Coach D for all you did for our family. You were there when we needed you, I am truly sorry this has happened. Wherever you continue your coaching career will be better off with you.


He did a great job with the program. My question is, if he were such a great role model, leader, coach and maker of men, then why did so few come out in his defense? More people came out to get to get the asst coach back. His support of late is almost nothing. It just gives people the idea that just because there a 5 vocal supporters, most are fine with the decision.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 08:30 PM
The people at boe meeting were there for their kids the program and Coach D. Coach D had asked the community to stand down. The BOEs simple minds were made up and we all knew that. If supporters of Coach D asked the community to attend there would have been plenty.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 08:34 PM
And that certain someone that's gonna play football in college did nothing for the lacrosse program. Guy your so transparent it's ridiculous
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 08:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is this a Sayville thread? Who cares about this third rate program?


Third rate? You really can't be serious. If you have a topic that you care to post about, no one is stopping you.


Sayville is a strong sports town across the board in many/most sports. Sad they ran guy out, but Sayville will always be strong, kids and parents are very sports orientated, which in turn led to some of the success the coach realized.


My boys all played for Coach D, went on to play in college and he was a great role model for each of them. You pompous idiots who caused this to happen and are supporting it can make all the BS excuses you want, this is NOT good for the program.
Thanks Coach D for all you did for our family. You were there when we needed you, I am truly sorry this has happened. Wherever you continue your coaching career will be better off with you.


He did a great job with the program. My question is, if he were such a great role model, leader, coach and maker of men, then why did so few come out in his defense? More people came out to get to get the asst coach back. His support of late is almost nothing. It just gives people the idea that just because there a 5 vocal supporters, most are fine with the decision.


Simple answer to that question. If 150 parents showed up and made a scene like they did at SWR, would that have changed the outcome? That's not what Coach D wanted and his wishes were honored. "Most are fine with the decision" proves you are not involved in the program. Couldn't be further from the truth.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 09:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Is this a Sayville thread? Who cares about this third rate program?


Third rate? You really can't be serious. If you have a topic that you care to post about, no one is stopping you.


Sayville is a strong sports town across the board in many/most sports. Sad they ran guy out, but Sayville will always be strong, kids and parents are very sports orientated, which in turn led to some of the success the coach realized.


My boys all played for Coach D, went on to play in college and he was a great role model for each of them. You pompous idiots who caused this to happen and are supporting it can make all the BS excuses you want, this is NOT good for the program.
Thanks Coach D for all you did for our family. You were there when we needed you, I am truly sorry this has happened. Wherever you continue your coaching career will be better off with you.


He did a great job with the program. My question is, if he were such a great role model, leader, coach and maker of men, then why did so few come out in his defense? More people came out to get to get the asst coach back. His support of late is almost nothing. It just gives people the idea that just because there a 5 vocal supporters, most are fine with the decision.


Simple answer to that question. If 150 parents showed up and made a scene like they did at SWR, would that have changed the outcome? That's not what Coach D wanted and his wishes were honored. "Most are fine with the decision" proves you are not involved in the program. Couldn't be further from the truth.


My son's a senior so I know exactly what I'm talking about. A heck of a lot more than you apparently. And, you couldn't get 150 people there if you were giving out free wings and beer! That's a joke!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 09:18 PM
Can/do college coaches contactlayers that have given verbals? My daughter is going to a tournament next week and although committed would like to kmow what if any other schools show interest. Thank you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 09:37 PM
Buddy...there's like 3 seniors on the team. Obviously you son don't see the field, maybe this year with the new coaches
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/13/15 11:32 PM

Sayville is a strong sports town across the board in many/most sports. Sad they ran guy out, but Sayville will always be strong, kids and parents are very sports orientated, which in turn led to some of the success the coach realized. [/quote]

My boys all played for Coach D, went on to play in college and he was a great role model for each of them. You pompous idiots who caused this to happen and are supporting it can make all the BS excuses you want, this is NOT good for the program.
Thanks Coach D for all you did for our family. You were there when we needed you, I am truly sorry this has happened. Wherever you continue your coaching career will be better off with you. [/quote]

He did a great job with the program. My question is, if he were such a great role model, leader, coach and maker of men, then why did so few come out in his defense? More people came out to get to get the asst coach back. His support of late is almost nothing. It just gives people the idea that just because there a 5 vocal supporters, most are fine with the decision. [/quote]

Simple answer to that question. If 150 parents showed up and made a scene like they did at SWR, would that have changed the outcome? That's not what Coach D wanted and his wishes were honored. "Most are fine with the decision" proves you are not involved in the program. Couldn't be further from the truth. [/quote]

My son's a senior so I know exactly what I'm talking about. A heck of a lot more than you apparently. And, you couldn't get 150 people there if you were giving out free wings and beer! That's a joke! [/quote]

The assistant coach from years past without any assistants? That's the upgrade? I'm taking the under on this season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/15/15 01:22 AM
Who is the new Varsity coach at Sayville?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/15/15 11:26 PM
After all of the weeks of bickering, does anyone want to reveal the name of the new Sayville varsity lacrosse team? Signed, interested non-resident party.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/16/15 03:34 AM
Don Flemming. Consider yourself Sayville royalty.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/16/15 11:47 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don Flemming. Consider yourself Sayville royalty.


It's about time. Any info on him? I know he was JV coach for a bit.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/16/15 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don Flemming. Consider yourself Sayville royalty.


It's about time. Any info on him? I know he was JV coach for a bit.


He was the asst varsity coach. Former coach at Calhoun. Nothing is going to change.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/16/15 02:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don Flemming. Consider yourself Sayville royalty.


It's about time. Any info on him? I know he was JV coach for a bit.


He was the asst varsity coach. Former coach at Calhoun. Nothing is going to change.


You can't be serious, so I'll assume you're someone with an agenda. My agenda? What's best for my child and the program, this is NOT an upgrade. Spin it however you want.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/16/15 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don Flemming. Consider yourself Sayville royalty.


It's about time. Any info on him? I know he was JV coach for a bit.


He was the asst varsity coach. Former coach at Calhoun. Nothing is going to change.


Fleming is an unknown, two years at Calhoun with a 14-20 record is not someone you trade for Coach D. Hope is not a sound plan for success, but I will cross my fingers because this is a done deal. Great work by the Superintendent and Board of Ed. You pushed out a winning coach who was 100% dedicated to the town and program and the kids loved.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/16/15 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don Flemming. Consider yourself Sayville royalty.


It's about time. Any info on him? I know he was JV coach for a bit.


He was the asst varsity coach. Former coach at Calhoun. Nothing is going to change.


"Nothing is going to change" Wow, you are deluded beyond belief. We had a guy who founded the program, won 2 or 3 Suffolk County Championships, a LI Championship, coach of the year a bunch of times, etc. No complaints, no issues. It's really scary when you think a few malcontents can have such a huge impact on a program. I too will support coach Fleming, we don't have a choice. One question-- will our new Varsity coach be allowed to have assistant coaches (budget question)?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/16/15 06:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Don Flemming. Consider yourself Sayville royalty.


It's about time. Any info on him? I know he was JV coach for a bit.


He was the asst varsity coach. Former coach at Calhoun. Nothing is going to change.


"Nothing is going to change" Wow, you are deluded beyond belief. We had a guy who founded the program, won 2 or 3 Suffolk County Championships, a LI Championship, coach of the year a bunch of times, etc. No complaints, no issues. It's really scary when you think a few malcontents can have such a huge impact on a program. I too will support coach Fleming, we don't have a choice. One question-- will our new Varsity coach be allowed to have assistant coaches (budget question)?


Yes. From what I understand, the reason he was hired back last year had little to do with public outcry and more to do with lacrosse being a collision sport. The board had it's eyes opened to the legality of not having an assistant coach and it made the proper correction.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/16/15 07:59 PM
John Verschure will be the Varsity Assistant. He has been JV coach for years and has worked with Doller for years. Wow. Sayville really "went in a new direction " such BS. Coach Doller will be fine, looks like he will be at Farmingdale College for the season. Good luck Coach Doller! I'll always be proud to refer to you as my HS coach! Thanks for everything you did for me and I'm only where I am in life bc you pushed and always believed in all of us!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/16/15 08:14 PM
Has anyone heard anything about Sachem North? from what I heard the coach is taking a leave of absence? Sounds like he is fleeing the coup. Must be bad over there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 12:02 AM
Took the Volunteer Assistant position at Stony Brook. Program is in good hands.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 04:57 AM
who should handle the recruiting of your child? high school coach or club coach. does it make a difference? what happens when your high school coach and your club coach don't see eye to eye. its happening and don't know what direction to go. looking for some solid input on this situation. thanks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 12:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who should handle the recruiting of your child? high school coach or club coach. does it make a difference? what happens when your high school coach and your club coach don't see eye to eye. its happening and don't know what direction to go. looking for some solid input on this situation. thanks


What is the reason the coaches see eye to eye? or about.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 12:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who should handle the recruiting of your child? high school coach or club coach. does it make a difference? what happens when your high school coach and your club coach don't see eye to eye. its happening and don't know what direction to go. looking for some solid input on this situation. thanks


With the exception of top 10 schools, high school coaches are becoming a much smaller part of the recruiting process each year. College coaches are no longer traveling to HS to watch a child play lacrosse. When the best/most serious kids are playing club ball, it makes more sense for a recruiter to go to a club tourney/showcase and watch 150 players. HS teams are becoming more like PAL. They provide an opportunity for kids to play with their friends. For example, your son might be lighting it up on his HS team, but you play in a B or C level division with no legitimate competition. How is a coach going to truly evaluate your son or daughter? Conversely, if your child is playing at a showcase down in Maryland against some of the top players in the country, a recruiter can see your child play against quality opponents AND recruit the other players at the same time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 12:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who should handle the recruiting of your child? high school coach or club coach. does it make a difference? what happens when your high school coach and your club coach don't see eye to eye. its happening and don't know what direction to go. looking for some solid input on this situation. thanks


Not sure that I understand the question.

Have college coaches watched your child play?

Have college coaches reached out to either your HS or club coach/director?

What year is your child?

Is your child a boy or a girl?

What is it that the club and HS coach do not see eye to eye on?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 02:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who should handle the recruiting of your child? high school coach or club coach. does it make a difference? what happens when your high school coach and your club coach don't see eye to eye. its happening and don't know what direction to go. looking for some solid input on this situation. thanks


With the exception of top 10 schools, high school coaches are becoming a much smaller part of the recruiting process each year. College coaches are no longer traveling to HS to watch a child play lacrosse. When the best/most serious kids are playing club ball, it makes more sense for a recruiter to go to a club tourney/showcase and watch 150 players. HS teams are becoming more like PAL. They provide an opportunity for kids to play with their friends. For example, your son might be lighting it up on his HS team, but you play in a B or C level division with no legitimate competition. How is a coach going to truly evaluate your son or daughter? Conversely, if your child is playing at a showcase down in Maryland against some of the top players in the country, a recruiter can see your child play against quality opponents AND recruit the other players at the same time.


Agree that high school lacrosse (boys and girls) is mostly noncompetitive. However, Colleges coaches will reach out to High School coaches to try and get a feel for what type of person the player is (more on the boys side). It is unfortunate but there are some HS coaches who do not like the fact that the top college coaches are evaluating and recruiting players before they ever play a varsity game. They do not like the fact that they are out of the loop in terms of (giving their opinion of the players ability). HS coaches now have their ability to evaluate talent challenged.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 02:31 PM
On the recruiting front here is my perspective. For the record, I have a son playing in high school, coach a varsity team and a travel team. The two questions I have are these. How good is your son? Objectively, how good? Because the truth is, if he is that good he will be recruited by top schools regardless of his travel team. He will be known through his high school, his stats, his reputation. It just happens to be that many kids in this category also happen to play on travel teams. So of course the travel teams want and take credit, as listed on their website (as a selling point) of where all their players are committed to. All of the early commits contacted the Dukes and Johns Hopkins and UVAs. Thats the only way it can work under NCAA guidelines. So don't think these coaches aren't looking at last name when deciding on an early commit. Either its a coach's son or older brothers played D-1 lacrosse. Then there is the height, weight and athleticism. My second question, is your son's high school in the upper tier, middle tier or lower tier? If it's the lower tier, you may need a travel team for exposure and potentially have the travel coach be the person you have help you with recruiting. If its an upper tier program and your HS coach is well respected, I would go that route. In some instances the travel team is a necessary evil, but when in doubt, I would defer to the HS coach. And keep in mind one thing Seth Tierney and John Danowski preach all the time. If your son is a true D-1 player we will find him. And one last thing, I know there will be plenty of comments about how their son was the exception to all of the above. I get it. But just be mindful of the fact that for the most part, this travel team hysteria is a total money grab. I know. I get paid very well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 03:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
who should handle the recruiting of your child? high school coach or club coach. does it make a difference? what happens when your high school coach and your club coach don't see eye to eye. its happening and don't know what direction to go. looking for some solid input on this situation. thanks


With the exception of top 10 schools, high school coaches are becoming a much smaller part of the recruiting process each year. College coaches are no longer traveling to HS to watch a child play lacrosse. When the best/most serious kids are playing club ball, it makes more sense for a recruiter to go to a club tourney/showcase and watch 150 players. HS teams are becoming more like PAL. They provide an opportunity for kids to play with their friends. For example, your son might be lighting it up on his HS team, but you play in a B or C level division with no legitimate competition. How is a coach going to truly evaluate your son or daughter? Conversely, if your child is playing at a showcase down in Maryland against some of the top players in the country, a recruiter can see your child play against quality opponents AND recruit the other players at the same time.



I would give it the top 20 LI programs

With more High School coaches getting involved in club, the answer can be muddled.
That said, after a player is "noticed" be it at a club event, school event, prospect camp or showcase, a college coach will look for the player that can help him keep his job by helping him win and staying out of trouble. They are well aware that club coaches/ directors are paid advocates looking to boast their recruitment rate to get more club member$, while HS coaches have less skin in the game, they see your kid 3 hours a day 5-6 days a week for the 10-12 week school season. They typically work for the school district, know your kids teachers, know your kids other coaches (multiple sports), know your kids acedemic standing, know your kids disciplinary record, and if your schools program is established he will know how good a player your kid is. Keep in mind this is only relevant for recruitment after 9th grade. Before that club is your only real choice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 03:33 PM
well said. h.s. coach and AD can also give insight as to parents who make it more painful
than its worth to recruit a kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 03:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On the recruiting front here is my perspective. For the record, I have a son playing in high school, coach a varsity team and a travel team. The two questions I have are these. How good is your son? Objectively, how good? Because the truth is, if he is that good he will be recruited by top schools regardless of his travel team. He will be known through his high school, his stats, his reputation. It just happens to be that many kids in this category also happen to play on travel teams. So of course the travel teams want and take credit, as listed on their website (as a selling point) of where all their players are committed to. All of the early commits contacted the Dukes and Johns Hopkins and UVAs. Thats the only way it can work under NCAA guidelines. So don't think these coaches aren't looking at last name when deciding on an early commit. Either its a coach's son or older brothers played D-1 lacrosse. Then there is the height, weight and athleticism. My second question, is your son's high school in the upper tier, middle tier or lower tier? If it's the lower tier, you may need a travel team for exposure and potentially have the travel coach be the person you have help you with recruiting. If its an upper tier program and your HS coach is well respected, I would go that route. In some instances the travel team is a necessary evil, but when in doubt, I would defer to the HS coach. And keep in mind one thing Seth Tierney and John Danowski preach all the time. If your son is a true D-1 player we will find him. And one last thing, I know there will be plenty of comments about how their son was the exception to all of the above. I get it. But just be mindful of the fact that for the most part, this travel team hysteria is a total money grab. I know. I get paid very well.


Word
Posted By: acblax Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 08:08 PM
Spring section xi schedules are posted.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On the recruiting front here is my perspective. For the record, I have a son playing in high school, coach a varsity team and a travel team. The two questions I have are these. How good is your son? Objectively, how good? Because the truth is, if he is that good he will be recruited by top schools regardless of his travel team. He will be known through his high school, his stats, his reputation. It just happens to be that many kids in this category also happen to play on travel teams. So of course the travel teams want and take credit, as listed on their website (as a selling point) of where all their players are committed to. All of the early commits contacted the Dukes and Johns Hopkins and UVAs. Thats the only way it can work under NCAA guidelines. So don't think these coaches aren't looking at last name when deciding on an early commit. Either its a coach's son or older brothers played D-1 lacrosse. Then there is the height, weight and athleticism. My second question, is your son's high school in the upper tier, middle tier or lower tier? If it's the lower tier, you may need a travel team for exposure and potentially have the travel coach be the person you have help you with recruiting. If its an upper tier program and your HS coach is well respected, I would go that route. In some instances the travel team is a necessary evil, but when in doubt, I would defer to the HS coach. And keep in mind one thing Seth Tierney and John Danowski preach all the time. If your son is a true D-1 player we will find him. And one last thing, I know there will be plenty of comments about how their son was the exception to all of the above. I get it. But just be mindful of the fact that for the most part, this travel team hysteria is a total money grab. I know. I get paid very well.


Thank you. Great post.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/17/15 09:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On the recruiting front here is my perspective. For the record, I have a son playing in high school, coach a varsity team and a travel team. The two questions I have are these. How good is your son? Objectively, how good? Because the truth is, if he is that good he will be recruited by top schools regardless of his travel team. He will be known through his high school, his stats, his reputation. It just happens to be that many kids in this category also happen to play on travel teams. So of course the travel teams want and take credit, as listed on their website (as a selling point) of where all their players are committed to. All of the early commits contacted the Dukes and Johns Hopkins and UVAs. Thats the only way it can work under NCAA guidelines. So don't think these coaches aren't looking at last name when deciding on an early commit. Either its a coach's son or older brothers played D-1 lacrosse. Then there is the height, weight and athleticism. My second question, is your son's high school in the upper tier, middle tier or lower tier? If it's the lower tier, you may need a travel team for exposure and potentially have the travel coach be the person you have help you with recruiting. If its an upper tier program and your HS coach is well respected, I would go that route. In some instances the travel team is a necessary evil, but when in doubt, I would defer to the HS coach. And keep in mind one thing Seth Tierney and John Danowski preach all the time. If your son is a true D-1 player we will find him. And one last thing, I know there will be plenty of comments about how their son was the exception to all of the above. I get it. But just be mindful of the fact that for the most part, this travel team hysteria is a total money grab. I know. I get paid very well.


That whole "they will find him thing" is such poor advise, you should really know better if you are who you purport to be. The amount of talent out there has now reached an astronomical level. Granted, if you are a top 50 kid in any given class, yes, maybe they will find you. However, for the average D1 recruit it is without question a marketing and sales job. If your son is not at key events, and tournaments playing at the highest level possible, he will not get seen. It takes money, time and effort from the family. Again, after the top 50 recruits there are about 700 D1 spot left for everyone else every year. With where the talent level is from across the country, there are easily 3,500 kids that could take one of those spots. With that said, it takes a concerted effort to garner one of those spots.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/18/15 04:02 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On the recruiting front here is my perspective. For the record, I have a son playing in high school, coach a varsity team and a travel team. The two questions I have are these. How good is your son? Objectively, how good? Because the truth is, if he is that good he will be recruited by top schools regardless of his travel team. He will be known through his high school, his stats, his reputation. It just happens to be that many kids in this category also happen to play on travel teams. So of course the travel teams want and take credit, as listed on their website (as a selling point) of where all their players are committed to. All of the early commits contacted the Dukes and Johns Hopkins and UVAs. Thats the only way it can work under NCAA guidelines. So don't think these coaches aren't looking at last name when deciding on an early commit. Either its a coach's son or older brothers played D-1 lacrosse. Then there is the height, weight and athleticism. My second question, is your son's high school in the upper tier, middle tier or lower tier? If it's the lower tier, you may need a travel team for exposure and potentially have the travel coach be the person you have help you with recruiting. If its an upper tier program and your HS coach is well respected, I would go that route. In some instances the travel team is a necessary evil, but when in doubt, I would defer to the HS coach. And keep in mind one thing Seth Tierney and John Danowski preach all the time. If your son is a true D-1 player we will find him. And one last thing, I know there will be plenty of comments about how their son was the exception to all of the above. I get it. But just be mindful of the fact that for the most part, this travel team hysteria is a total money grab. I know. I get paid very well.


That whole "they will find him thing" is such poor advise, you should really know better if you are who you purport to be. The amount of talent out there has now reached an astronomical level. Granted, if you are a top 50 kid in any given class, yes, maybe they will find you. However, for the average D1 recruit it is without question a marketing and sales job. If your son is not at key events, and tournaments playing at the highest level possible, he will not get seen. It takes money, time and effort from the family. Again, after the top 50 recruits there are about 700 D1 spot left for everyone else every year. With where the talent level is from across the country, there are easily 3,500 kids that could take one of those spots. With that said, it takes a concerted effort to garner one of those spots.


You think you as a parent are going to do a sales and marketing job on a college coach? The point above was about travel teams. You can get on the radar at showcases and prospect camps without spending all of that $$ on the coaches and uniforms and helmets and gloves. Because unless you are the turtles or crush or whoever the elite teams are anymore, these coaches could care less about your travel team. Know how many college coaches were at the Yale Fall Classic this weekend? I'd say none, unless of course they were disguised as parents on the sidelines. You can do all the sales and marketing you want, when push comes to shove, they are going to want to get some input from the HS coach. Know where the most college coaches were? The UA tryouts. And you didn't need a travel team to be there. I'm sick of these travel teams selling a dream to parents. The kids on their top teams are getting recruited anyway. So pathetic to travel to UMASS or Delaware or PA or Maryland and see one coach sitting in a chair on the sidelines, from some school we've never heard of. The madness has to stop.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/18/15 05:03 AM
I have a question maybe someone can answer. I have a sophomore who will play J.V. again this spring for a top public program. He will not be playing club this year and will just play with H.S. summer team and do prospect days/showcases. As far as recruiting goes, should he list the varsity coach or J.V. coach as a contact ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/18/15 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a question maybe someone can answer. I have a sophomore who will play J.V. again this spring for a top public program. He will not be playing club this year and will just play with H.S. summer team and do prospect days/showcases. As far as recruiting goes, should he list the varsity coach or J.V. coach as a contact ?


Varsity
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/18/15 11:57 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On the recruiting front here is my perspective. For the record, I have a son playing in high school, coach a varsity team and a travel team. The two questions I have are these. How good is your son? Objectively, how good? Because the truth is, if he is that good he will be recruited by top schools regardless of his travel team. He will be known through his high school, his stats, his reputation. It just happens to be that many kids in this category also happen to play on travel teams. So of course the travel teams want and take credit, as listed on their website (as a selling point) of where all their players are committed to. All of the early commits contacted the Dukes and Johns Hopkins and UVAs. Thats the only way it can work under NCAA guidelines. So don't think these coaches aren't looking at last name when deciding on an early commit. Either its a coach's son or older brothers played D-1 lacrosse. Then there is the height, weight and athleticism. My second question, is your son's high school in the upper tier, middle tier or lower tier? If it's the lower tier, you may need a travel team for exposure and potentially have the travel coach be the person you have help you with recruiting. If its an upper tier program and your HS coach is well respected, I would go that route. In some instances the travel team is a necessary evil, but when in doubt, I would defer to the HS coach. And keep in mind one thing Seth Tierney and John Danowski preach all the time. If your son is a true D-1 player we will find him. And one last thing, I know there will be plenty of comments about how their son was the exception to all of the above. I get it. But just be mindful of the fact that for the most part, this travel team hysteria is a total money grab. I know. I get paid very well.


That whole "they will find him thing" is such poor advise, you should really know better if you are who you purport to be. The amount of talent out there has now reached an astronomical level. Granted, if you are a top 50 kid in any given class, yes, maybe they will find you. However, for the average D1 recruit it is without question a marketing and sales job. If your son is not at key events, and tournaments playing at the highest level possible, he will not get seen. It takes money, time and effort from the family. Again, after the top 50 recruits there are about 700 D1 spot left for everyone else every year. With where the talent level is from across the country, there are easily 3,500 kids that could take one of those spots. With that said, it takes a concerted effort to garner one of those spots.


You think you as a parent are going to do a sales and marketing job on a college coach? The point above was about travel teams. You can get on the radar at showcases and prospect camps without spending all of that $$ on the coaches and uniforms and helmets and gloves. Because unless you are the turtles or crush or whoever the elite teams are anymore, these coaches could care less about your travel team. Know how many college coaches were at the Yale Fall Classic this weekend? I'd say none, unless of course they were disguised as parents on the sidelines. You can do all the sales and marketing you want, when push comes to shove, they are going to want to get some input from the HS coach. Know where the most college coaches were? The UA tryouts. And you didn't need a travel team to be there. I'm sick of these travel teams selling a dream to parents. The kids on their top teams are getting recruited anyway. So pathetic to travel to UMASS or Delaware or PA or Maryland and see one coach sitting in a chair on the sidelines, from some school we've never heard of. The madness has to stop.


You are bitter and uninformed. Your product is your son, your job is to "market" him in front of as many coaches as you can, invest in quality video, and have him do as many high end events as you can. His job is to "sell" himself by playing at his very best. Clearly, you picked a club that went to poorly attended events. I can tell you, at a tournament in Del. this past weekend there were over 25 D1 coaches at my son's games. He played to the best of his ability and "sold" himself. Sorry things are not working for you, not every kid is a D1 recruit, all of mine weren't! However, the concept doesn't change for the D2 or D3 athlete. One of my other son's had 44 D2 and D3 schools contact him the summer between Jr and Sr year. Believe me, he played non-stop and "sold" himself to those coaches with his play on the fields, up and down the east coast. He was recruited by a great D3 school, got excellent academic and merit money, and is working very hard. Know your kids talent level, it will make this process easier on everyone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/18/15 12:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have a question maybe someone can answer. I have a sophomore who will play J.V. again this spring for a top public program. He will not be playing club this year and will just play with H.S. summer team and do prospect days/showcases. As far as recruiting goes, should he list the varsity coach or J.V. coach as a contact ?


Ask the coaches. Most Varsity head Coaches deal with recruitment.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/18/15 12:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On the recruiting front here is my perspective. For the record, I have a son playing in high school, coach a varsity team and a travel team. The two questions I have are these. How good is your son? Objectively, how good? Because the truth is, if he is that good he will be recruited by top schools regardless of his travel team. He will be known through his high school, his stats, his reputation. It just happens to be that many kids in this category also happen to play on travel teams. So of course the travel teams want and take credit, as listed on their website (as a selling point) of where all their players are committed to. All of the early commits contacted the Dukes and Johns Hopkins and UVAs. Thats the only way it can work under NCAA guidelines. So don't think these coaches aren't looking at last name when deciding on an early commit. Either its a coach's son or older brothers played D-1 lacrosse. Then there is the height, weight and athleticism. My second question, is your son's high school in the upper tier, middle tier or lower tier? If it's the lower tier, you may need a travel team for exposure and potentially have the travel coach be the person you have help you with recruiting. If its an upper tier program and your HS coach is well respected, I would go that route. In some instances the travel team is a necessary evil, but when in doubt, I would defer to the HS coach. And keep in mind one thing Seth Tierney and John Danowski preach all the time. If your son is a true D-1 player we will find him. And one last thing, I know there will be plenty of comments about how their son was the exception to all of the above. I get it. But just be mindful of the fact that for the most part, this travel team hysteria is a total money grab. I know. I get paid very well.


That whole "they will find him thing" is such poor advise, you should really know better if you are who you purport to be. The amount of talent out there has now reached an astronomical level. Granted, if you are a top 50 kid in any given class, yes, maybe they will find you. However, for the average D1 recruit it is without question a marketing and sales job. If your son is not at key events, and tournaments playing at the highest level possible, he will not get seen. It takes money, time and effort from the family. Again, after the top 50 recruits there are about 700 D1 spot left for everyone else every year. With where the talent level is from across the country, there are easily 3,500 kids that could take one of those spots. With that said, it takes a concerted effort to garner one of those spots.


You think you as a parent are going to do a sales and marketing job on a college coach? The point above was about travel teams. You can get on the radar at showcases and prospect camps without spending all of that $$ on the coaches and uniforms and helmets and gloves. Because unless you are the turtles or crush or whoever the elite teams are anymore, these coaches could care less about your travel team. Know how many college coaches were at the Yale Fall Classic this weekend? I'd say none, unless of course they were disguised as parents on the sidelines. You can do all the sales and marketing you want, when push comes to shove, they are going to want to get some input from the HS coach. Know where the most college coaches were? The UA tryouts. And you didn't need a travel team to be there. I'm sick of these travel teams selling a dream to parents. The kids on their top teams are getting recruited anyway. So pathetic to travel to UMASS or Delaware or PA or Maryland and see one coach sitting in a chair on the sidelines, from some school we've never heard of. The madness has to stop.


Where should a kid play? Only PAL, only for their JHS, only their HS team? Only in the spring? Then go to a prospect camp?

I don't think that you have any Idea of what is going on in the world of lacrosse.

Why are you so bitter about the club teams? If there was not a market for them they would not exist. Nobody tries to force kids to play for a club team.

The class of 2018 has about 300 kids committed to play D1 lacrosse just about all of them play for club teams many of them have not played a varsity game. They play for top club teams and they compete against each other at the top tournaments. College coaches flock to the tournaments that they play in. Once they are committed their future college coaches are suggesting that they continue to play for their club team in the summer and fall (if they do not play a fall sport). The college coaches want their recruits competing with the best so that they can develop and be as prepared as possible when they arrive on campus.

Not only does playing for a top club team help the player gain exposure to the top college coaches it helps the player develop.

If you do not want to have your child play club lacrosse then don't. Not everyone thinks it is madness. Nobody is forcing anyone to play for a club team.

What makes you so bitter?


Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 11/18/15 01:07 PM
My only beef with club is it has turned HS teams inside out. Every other HS team accepts that a few will play in college but the entire roster is accepted regardless if they are playing travel or AAU somewhere. In lacrosse if you don't play club you are shunned while playing HS. Congratulations to all club players on their success and journey but if my kid is the starting point guard or quarterback they have a little athletic ability now pass them the lacrosse ball. And its worse with the girls!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/18/15 01:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
My only beef with club is it has turned HS teams inside out. Every other HS team accepts that a few will play in college but the entire roster is accepted regardless if they are playing travel or AAU somewhere. In lacrosse if you don't play club you are shunned while playing HS. Congratulations to all club players on their success and journey but if my kid is the starting point guard or quarterback they have a little athletic ability now pass them the lacrosse ball. And its worse with the girls!


What is your point?
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 11/18/15 02:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On the recruiting front here is my perspective. For the record, I have a son playing in high school, coach a varsity team and a travel team. The two questions I have are these. How good is your son? Objectively, how good? Because the truth is, if he is that good he will be recruited by top schools regardless of his travel team. He will be known through his high school, his stats, his reputation. It just happens to be that many kids in this category also happen to play on travel teams. So of course the travel teams want and take credit, as listed on their website (as a selling point) of where all their players are committed to. All of the early commits contacted the Dukes and Johns Hopkins and UVAs. Thats the only way it can work under NCAA guidelines. So don't think these coaches aren't looking at last name when deciding on an early commit. Either its a coach's son or older brothers played D-1 lacrosse. Then there is the height, weight and athleticism. My second question, is your son's high school in the upper tier, middle tier or lower tier? If it's the lower tier, you may need a travel team for exposure and potentially have the travel coach be the person you have help you with recruiting. If its an upper tier program and your HS coach is well respected, I would go that route. In some instances the travel team is a necessary evil, but when in doubt, I would defer to the HS coach. And keep in mind one thing Seth Tierney and John Danowski preach all the time. If your son is a true D-1 player we will find him. And one last thing, I know there will be plenty of comments about how their son was the exception to all of the above. I get it. But just be mindful of the fact that for the most part, this travel team hysteria is a total money grab. I know. I get paid very well.


That whole "they will find him thing" is such poor advise, you should really know better if you are who you purport to be. The amount of talent out there has now reached an astronomical level. Granted, if you are a top 50 kid in any given class, yes, maybe they will find you. However, for the average D1 recruit it is without question a marketing and sales job. If your son is not at key events, and tournaments playing at the highest level possible, he will not get seen. It takes money, time and effort from the family. Again, after the top 50 recruits there are about 700 D1 spot left for everyone else every year. With where the talent level is from across the country, there are easily 3,500 kids that could take one of those spots. With that said, it takes a concerted effort to garner one of those spots.


You think you as a parent are going to do a sales and marketing job on a college coach? The point above was about travel teams. You can get on the radar at showcases and prospect camps without spending all of that $$ on the coaches and uniforms and helmets and gloves. Because unless you are the turtles or crush or whoever the elite teams are anymore, these coaches could care less about your travel team. Know how many college coaches were at the Yale Fall Classic this weekend? I'd say none, unless of course they were disguised as parents on the sidelines. You can do all the sales and marketing you want, when push comes to shove, they are going to want to get some input from the HS coach. Know where the most college coaches were? The UA tryouts. And you didn't need a travel team to be there. I'm sick of these travel teams selling a dream to parents. The kids on their top teams are getting recruited anyway. So pathetic to travel to UMASS or Delaware or PA or Maryland and see one coach sitting in a chair on the sidelines, from some school we've never heard of. The madness has to stop.


Where should a kid play? Only PAL, only for their JHS, only their HS team? Only in the spring? Then go to a prospect camp?

I don't think that you have any Idea of what is going on in the world of lacrosse.

Why are you so bitter about the club teams? If there was not a market for them they would not exist. Nobody tries to force kids to play for a club team.

The class of 2018 has about 300 kids committed to play D1 lacrosse just about all of them play for club teams many of them have not played a varsity game. They play for top club teams and they compete against each other at the top tournaments. College coaches flock to the tournaments that they play in. Once they are committed their future college coaches are suggesting that they continue to play for their club team in the summer and fall (if they do not play a fall sport). The college coaches want their recruits competing with the best so that they can develop and be as prepared as possible when they arrive on campus.

Not only does playing for a top club team help the player gain exposure to the top college coaches it helps the player develop.

If you do not want to have your child play club lacrosse then don't. Not everyone thinks it is madness. Nobody is forcing anyone to play for a club team.

What makes you so bitter?

Funniest thing is many many college coaches will tell you they hate the club teams. Hate the early recruiting. Hypocritical? You bet. And no doubt that the 300 D1 kids play club. But I submit, they would be playing D1 lacrosse regardless of the club. What did colleges do 20 years ago without club teams? They actually went out and recruited. They actually went out and recruited Juniors and Seniors. The club teams have perverted the entire process. Sure, now college coaches can go to one event rather than multiple high school games. Easy for them to now have access to 7th and 8th graders. But is this good for the overall health of the game? The only benefit I see is for exposure for kids from non-hotbed areas. This cycle is madness. Pushing 3rd and 4th graders to play year round. Camps, clinics; fall ball, winter league etc. Because if you don't he won't be on the "A" team. And if he's not on the "A" team, he will won't be seen at tournaments. And if he's not seen at tournaments, he can't play D1. And so it goes. Parents chase the dream and the directors laugh, watching parents chase their tails, as they make yet another large deposit in their bank.


Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/18/15 06:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
On the recruiting front here is my perspective. For the record, I have a son playing in high school, coach a varsity team and a travel team. The two questions I have are these. How good is your son? Objectively, how good? Because the truth is, if he is that good he will be recruited by top schools regardless of his travel team. He will be known through his high school, his stats, his reputation. It just happens to be that many kids in this category also happen to play on travel teams. So of course the travel teams want and take credit, as listed on their website (as a selling point) of where all their players are committed to. All of the early commits contacted the Dukes and Johns Hopkins and UVAs. Thats the only way it can work under NCAA guidelines. So don't think these coaches aren't looking at last name when deciding on an early commit. Either its a coach's son or older brothers played D-1 lacrosse. Then there is the height, weight and athleticism. My second question, is your son's high school in the upper tier, middle tier or lower tier? If it's the lower tier, you may need a travel team for exposure and potentially have the travel coach be the person you have help you with recruiting. If its an upper tier program and your HS coach is well respected, I would go that route. In some instances the travel team is a necessary evil, but when in doubt, I would defer to the HS coach. And keep in mind one thing Seth Tierney and John Danowski preach all the time. If your son is a true D-1 player we will find him. And one last thing, I know there will be plenty of comments about how their son was the exception to all of the above. I get it. But just be mindful of the fact that for the most part, this travel team hysteria is a total money grab. I know. I get paid very well.


That whole "they will find him thing" is such poor advise, you should really know better if you are who you purport to be. The amount of talent out there has now reached an astronomical level. Granted, if you are a top 50 kid in any given class, yes, maybe they will find you. However, for the average D1 recruit it is without question a marketing and sales job. If your son is not at key events, and tournaments playing at the highest level possible, he will not get seen. It takes money, time and effort from the family. Again, after the top 50 recruits there are about 700 D1 spot left for everyone else every year. With where the talent level is from across the country, there are easily 3,500 kids that could take one of those spots. With that said, it takes a concerted effort to garner one of those spots.


You think you as a parent are going to do a sales and marketing job on a college coach? The point above was about travel teams. You can get on the radar at showcases and prospect camps without spending all of that $$ on the coaches and uniforms and helmets and gloves. Because unless you are the turtles or crush or whoever the elite teams are anymore, these coaches could care less about your travel team. Know how many college coaches were at the Yale Fall Classic this weekend? I'd say none, unless of course they were disguised as parents on the sidelines. You can do all the sales and marketing you want, when push comes to shove, they are going to want to get some input from the HS coach. Know where the most college coaches were? The UA tryouts. And you didn't need a travel team to be there. I'm sick of these travel teams selling a dream to parents. The kids on their top teams are getting recruited anyway. So pathetic to travel to UMASS or Delaware or PA or Maryland and see one coach sitting in a chair on the sidelines, from some school we've never heard of. The madness has to stop.


Where should a kid play? Only PAL, only for their JHS, only their HS team? Only in the spring? Then go to a prospect camp?

I don't think that you have any Idea of what is going on in the world of lacrosse.

Why are you so bitter about the club teams? If there was not a market for them they would not exist. Nobody tries to force kids to play for a club team.

The class of 2018 has about 300 kids committed to play D1 lacrosse just about all of them play for club teams many of them have not played a varsity game. They play for top club teams and they compete against each other at the top tournaments. College coaches flock to the tournaments that they play in. Once they are committed their future college coaches are suggesting that they continue to play for their club team in the summer and fall (if they do not play a fall sport). The college coaches want their recruits competing with the best so that they can develop and be as prepared as possible when they arrive on campus.

Not only does playing for a top club team help the player gain exposure to the top college coaches it helps the player develop.

If you do not want to have your child play club lacrosse then don't. Not everyone thinks it is madness. Nobody is forcing anyone to play for a club team.

What makes you so bitter?

Funniest thing is many many college coaches will tell you they hate the club teams. Hate the early recruiting. Hypocritical? You bet. And no doubt that the 300 D1 kids play club. But I submit, they would be playing D1 lacrosse regardless of the club. What did colleges do 20 years ago without club teams? They actually went out and recruited. They actually went out and recruited Juniors and Seniors. The club teams have perverted the entire process. Sure, now college coaches can go to one event rather than multiple high school games. Easy for them to now have access to 7th and 8th graders. But is this good for the overall health of the game? The only benefit I see is for exposure for kids from non-hotbed areas. This cycle is madness. Pushing 3rd and 4th graders to play year round. Camps, clinics; fall ball, winter league etc. Because if you don't he won't be on the "A" team. And if he's not on the "A" team, he will won't be seen at tournaments. And if he's not seen at tournaments, he can't play D1. And so it goes. Parents chase the dream and the directors laugh, watching parents chase their tails, as they make yet another large deposit in their bank.


I as a parent of a middle school student who plays club ball look at it as an investment in his adolecence. Not to get a Division 1 scholarship but in giving him something to strive for. To play against other talented kids and for him to push himself and have a good work ethic. For my son who is an average A team player it is a way to expose him to the best players. In school ball he is the man and the other team has only a couple of those top caliber kids. In club he's on the field against 10 top players. He strives to excel. If it helps keep him out of trouble during those difficult teenage years then it is money well spent. Everything else is gravy!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/18/15 07:00 PM
Hooray for your son. And by the way. No indictment on the club teams or directors. They are more than happy to receive your $$. It's the parents that drove this. PAL wasn't good enough. Middle school wasn't good enough. HS not good enough. And the unintended consequences? Kids playing year round. And you can say it's voluntary, but parents don't want their son to fall behind. So the best kids move in a certain direction and the masses follow. Are you saying the recruiting of 9th graders is a positive thing? Are you saying parents with limited resources have to pay thousands of dollars a year to just keep up with his teammates? I'm making a broader argument, and those with tunnel vision talk about their own son. My son is done. Graduated college. Played lower Division 1. He has said to me he probably won't let his son play lacrosse. And if he does, there is no way he is going to spend every summer, traversing the east coast tournament circuit. I guess if there is any silver lining, his education and experience has given him perspective, many of us have lost.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/18/15 07:51 PM
of the 2015 playoff teams in A last year who is primed to make it back.
Quot had a great run and some young guns
Northport fell a little short
Ward Melville never count them out
Smith west and East seem to always be in the thick of it reload
Half Hallow East and West have solid young squads
West Islip who knows what you will get outside of a good game
Sachem's seem stout
Bayshore remind me how they got in again
Walt Whit
Middle Country happy to be mentioned
Riverhead were they a playoff team or was that a late game they had with WM


Bellport and West Bab out now for goodness sake take brentwood, longwood, Pat Med, WFlyod copaigue and deer park out of A. if the playoffs mandate you need to be 500. here are 6 teams which an avg team should beat wins.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/18/15 10:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hooray for your son. And by the way. No indictment on the club teams or directors. They are more than happy to receive your $$. It's the parents that drove this. PAL wasn't good enough. Middle school wasn't good enough. HS not good enough. And the unintended consequences? Kids playing year round. And you can say it's voluntary, but parents don't want their son to fall behind. So the best kids move in a certain direction and the masses follow. Are you saying the recruiting of 9th graders is a positive thing? Are you saying parents with limited resources have to pay thousands of dollars a year to just keep up with his teammates? I'm making a broader argument, and those with tunnel vision talk about their own son. My son is done. Graduated college. Played lower Division 1. He has said to me he probably won't let his son play lacrosse. And if he does, there is no way he is going to spend every summer, traversing the east coast tournament circuit. I guess if there is any silver lining, his education and experience has given him perspective, many of us have lost.


If you want to talk equality, there is none and never will be. Get over it. Even in a socialist society, like the former USSR and China, there are haves and have nots. There is no equality in sports either. Some kids are born with more talent than others. There is no equality, thats just crap.

Club teams are what you make of them. PAL is obligatory if you value your community. My kid hates PAL but does it because it is the right thing to do. Club lax is what she likes and has fun doing. As a family, we enjoy the travel and going to places we might not have otherwise ever been to. It is a good experience and everyone has fun.

If a child feels like they NEED to play club maybe there something wrong with the big picture? Why NEED? Why do they feel it is forced? To be competitive? To get recruited? For what end? A scholarship - anyone who doesn't know those are mostly pipe dreams is an idiot. Or because they want to be the best they can be at the sport they hopefully love? That is a want, not a need. If you WANT to do it, it is not forced. So do it. It sounds to me like parents bitching that they need to cut back on some things they want in order to pay for something their kids want. Tough shiat. Shouldn't have had a kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/19/15 12:23 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hooray for your son. And by the way. No indictment on the club teams or directors. They are more than happy to receive your $$. It's the parents that drove this. PAL wasn't good enough. Middle school wasn't good enough. HS not good enough. And the unintended consequences? Kids playing year round. And you can say it's voluntary, but parents don't want their son to fall behind. So the best kids move in a certain direction and the masses follow. Are you saying the recruiting of 9th graders is a positive thing? Are you saying parents with limited resources have to pay thousands of dollars a year to just keep up with his teammates? I'm making a broader argument, and those with tunnel vision talk about their own son. My son is done. Graduated college. Played lower Division 1. He has said to me he probably won't let his son play lacrosse. And if he does, there is no way he is going to spend every summer, traversing the east coast tournament circuit. I guess if there is any silver lining, his education and experience has given him perspective, many of us have lost.


If you want to talk equality, there is none and never will be. Get over it. Even in a socialist society, like the former USSR and China, there are haves and have nots. There is no equality in sports either. Some kids are born with more talent than others. There is no equality, thats just crap.

Club teams are what you make of them. PAL is obligatory if you value your community. My kid hates PAL but does it because it is the right thing to do. Club lax is what she likes and has fun doing. As a family, we enjoy the travel and going to places we might not have otherwise ever been to. It is a good experience and everyone has fun.

If a child feels like they NEED to play club maybe there something wrong with the big picture? Why NEED? Why do they feel it is forced? To be competitive? To get recruited? For what end? A scholarship - anyone who doesn't know those are mostly pipe dreams is an idiot. Or because they want to be the best they can be at the sport they hopefully love? That is a want, not a need. If you WANT to do it, it is not forced. So do it. It sounds to me like parents bitching that they need to cut back on some things they want in order to pay for something their kids want. Tough shiat. Shouldn't have had a kid.


My daughter is doing travel because she wants to go D1. She is in 6th. She knows what she wants and will hopefully follow in the footsteps of her brothers. There is a goal. There is talent, and we will do what we need to as a family to ger there. If it doesn't work out, which is unlikely, at least she is smart and excells at other sports as well. What is meant to be will be!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/19/15 12:08 PM
I have to share this age story I heard yesterday about this crazy game of Lacrosse. I will preface what I say here with the fact that the story comes second hand from 15 and 16 year old kids. With that said, some boys recently played in the 2017 bracket at a well known tournament in Del. last weekend. Again, allegedly this IMG team from Florida had multiple kids 19 and 20 years old. One kid (man) had his THREE YEAR OLD SON there watching him play. Another man had a Duck Dynasty beard and admitted to the LI kids he was already 21. Again, I heard this second or third hand, but if it's even remotely true...
Is it not time to move this now completely bastardized sport to an age based system? How is this allowed to continue?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/19/15 01:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have to share this age story I heard yesterday about this crazy game of Lacrosse. I will preface what I say here with the fact that the story comes second hand from 15 and 16 year old kids. With that said, some boys recently played in the 2017 bracket at a well known tournament in Del. last weekend. Again, allegedly this IMG team from Florida had multiple kids 19 and 20 years old. One kid (man) had his THREE YEAR OLD SON there watching him play. Another man had a Duck Dynasty beard and admitted to the LI kids he was already 21. Again, I heard this second or third hand, but if it's even remotely true...
Is it not time to move this now completely bastardized sport to an age based system? How is this allowed to continue?

21 is a stretch. 18 or 19 is more like it. IMG has a PG team they travel around with. That's basically a college freshman team. The 3 year old kid thing, I have no answer for that one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/19/15 01:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have to share this age story I heard yesterday about this crazy game of Lacrosse. I will preface what I say here with the fact that the story comes second hand from 15 and 16 year old kids. With that said, some boys recently played in the 2017 bracket at a well known tournament in Del. last weekend. Again, allegedly this IMG team from Florida had multiple kids 19 and 20 years old. One kid (man) had his THREE YEAR OLD SON there watching him play. Another man had a Duck Dynasty beard and admitted to the LI kids he was already 21. Again, I heard this second or third hand, but if it's even remotely true...
Is it not time to move this now completely bastardized sport to an age based system? How is this allowed to continue?


I can tell you that my sons club team played them this past Sunday. They were playing in the 2016/2017 Varsity division as we were. They are not the most talented of teams but one of the most polished and disciplined teams I have ever watched. I was speaking with one of the fathers who's son plays on IMG, he was saying the ages range between 17 to 20 years old. Many are there for multiple PG years, in the end they are a varsity team playing varsity teams. Yes there were full beards and mustaches!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/19/15 01:53 PM
sure....your 6th grader is dedicated to playing D1 lax. you are really not serious are you?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/19/15 01:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
of the 2015 playoff teams in A last year who is primed to make it back.
Quot had a great run and some young guns
Northport fell a little short
Ward Melville never count them out
Smith west and East seem to always be in the thick of it reload
Half Hallow East and West have solid young squads
West Islip who knows what you will get outside of a good game
Sachem's seem stout
Bayshore remind me how they got in again
Walt Whit
Middle Country happy to be mentioned
Riverhead were they a playoff team or was that a late game they had with WM


Bellport and West Bab out now for goodness sake take brentwood, longwood, Pat Med, WFlyod copaigue and deer park out of A. if the playoffs mandate you need to be 500. here are 6 teams which an avg team should beat wins.



Making the playoffs is nothing to brag about. Winning it is something to be proud of. Usually only two to four team league.

Quot : has put out some great players and they have some talent this year but I don't think they have enough to win it just yet.

Northport: Blew it last year, let WM beat them. I think last year was their best chance to win it. They should be strong enough to compete and make it to the final four.

Ward Melville: Lots of questions marks. Attack? Midfield? Coaching? D is OK I think and they return the goalie. Do not know much about the rest. Surprised if they are not in the final four but not sure they can win it.

Smithtown West and East: East beats West and could win the county championship again. Very talented on O. Will win a lot of the FO's. Other teams will need to find a way to get the ball in order to beat them.

HHH East and West: New Sherif in town at West. Neither team has the depth to win it but West should be better than last year.

West Islip: Will be average again this year. They have had a rough go the past three years. Some good players here and there but not the depth they had during their run. Could surprise someone in the playoffs. Will play tough and if they get to the final four could win. Tough kids + a stud or two + good coaching = a chance to win it.

Sachem: I don't think so but you never know. Who is the coach at North?

Bayshore: ???

Walt Whitman, Middle Country, Riverhead: Too many teams make the playoffs. I know that on any given day... but do the bottom half teams in the bracket have a realistic chance at beating the top half? The history of this league says no.

Final Four Teams:

Smithtown East
Ward Melville
Northport
?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 02:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think an interesting story line is the Massapequa teacher and defense coach going to rival Syosset while remaining a teacher in the school. Now that's an interesting development. That should make for lively discussions in the phys ed office.


Has Port chosen a head coach yet?



----They have. Isaac Neal, he was the Defense Assistant for the last 5-6 years. played at Hofstra. From what I have heard people are happy. Port lost a lot of guys though, I wonder if he will be able to help them rebuild
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 03:11 PM
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 04:43 PM
Where do you see 300 2018 commits ? I see about 50 on all recruiting sites.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.


If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 05:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.


If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO


Sometimes the coaches think it's the pros and not high school. They take liberties that they shouldn't.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 05:28 PM
examples?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.


If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO


Sometimes the coaches think it's the pros and not high school. They take liberties that they shouldn't.


Parents are way too involved with the management side of HS sports. When a coach has invest 10+ years in a winning program and is beloved by the vast majority of players, a few parents of kids who are unhappy their kid isn't playing should NOT be able to cause the removal of said coach. Parents really need to stand up and support the great, committed coaches because they deserve our support.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 05:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.


If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO


Sometimes the coaches think it's the pros and not high school. They take liberties that they shouldn't.


Please define the "liberties that they shouldn't". Thanks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Where do you see 300 2018 commits ? I see about 50 on all recruiting sites.


Inside lacrosse has 2018 list.

Probably closer to 350 in the 2018 group and that number will jump in the next few weeks once fall recruiting season wraps up. Should be big weekend in PA.

Good luck to all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 05:46 PM
Town summer programs they turn into personal businesses abusing their position of authority and forcing kids to join as opposed to letting kids choose what they want to do over the summer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.


If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO


I would imagine that it takes a lot more than two or three parents complaining. I would also like to believe that the complaints must have some merit. Parents saying "My son should be starting" is not going to get a coach removed. Bullying, abusive behavior, financial conflicts of interest or impropriety. Conduct unbecoming, legal issues etc...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 06:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.


If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO


Sometimes the coaches think it's the pros and not high school. They take liberties that they shouldn't.


Parents are way too involved with the management side of HS sports. When a coach has invest 10+ years in a winning program and is beloved by the vast majority of players, a few parents of kids who are unhappy their kid isn't playing should NOT be able to cause the removal of said coach. Parents really need to stand up and support the great, committed coaches because they deserve our support.


That may have helped in a recent situation, but only 3 did.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Town summer programs they turn into personal businesses abusing their position of authority and forcing kids to join as opposed to letting kids choose what they want to do over the summer.


That's one of them, for sure. Very common practice now amongst HS coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.


If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO


I would imagine that it takes a lot more than two or three parents complaining. I would also like to believe that the complaints must have some merit. Parents saying "My son should be starting" is not going to get a coach removed. Bullying, abusive behavior, financial conflicts of interest or impropriety. Conduct unbecoming, legal issues etc...


You're exactly correct. A handful of parents could never have a coach removed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.


If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO


I would imagine that it takes a lot more than two or three parents complaining. I would also like to believe that the complaints must have some merit. Parents saying "My son should be starting" is not going to get a coach removed. Bullying, abusive behavior, financial conflicts of interest or impropriety. Conduct unbecoming, legal issues etc...


Wrong. All it takes is someone who has a personal relationship with a board member. Most board members know nothing about athletics, coaches, etc and simply follow another board member's lead. SWR is a perfect example
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 06:54 PM
And don't forget one other aspect. It's not just 2-3 parents complaining. Don't think that there is always loyalty throughout the program. The assistant coach who feels he knows more or does more and doesn't get the credit. The JV coach the same way. A lot of these coaches are teachers. They are in school all day with each other. Don't think for a minute school politics don't come into play. People are in the AD's ear constantly. Once read advice about hiring assistant coaches that they should be your brother, or father or relative because there is a good chance, at some point, they might turn on you.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 06:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.


If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO


I would imagine that it takes a lot more than two or three parents complaining. I would also like to believe that the complaints must have some merit. Parents saying "My son should be starting" is not going to get a coach removed. Bullying, abusive behavior, financial conflicts of interest or impropriety. Conduct unbecoming, legal issues etc...


Wrong. All it takes is someone who has a personal relationship with a board member. Most board members know nothing about athletics, coaches, etc and simply follow another board member's lead. SWR is a perfect example


That may be true for SWR, but it's a total blanket statement that isn't applicable anywhere else.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.


If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO


I would imagine that it takes a lot more than two or three parents complaining. I would also like to believe that the complaints must have some merit. Parents saying "My son should be starting" is not going to get a coach removed. Bullying, abusive behavior, financial conflicts of interest or impropriety. Conduct unbecoming, legal issues etc...


Wrong. All it takes is someone who has a personal relationship with a board member. Most board members know nothing about athletics, coaches, etc and simply follow another board member's lead. SWR is a perfect example


That may be true for SWR, but it's a total blanket statement that isn't applicable anywhere else.

Not a single one of the coaches above were let go because of a mass protest against them. Also, only a few HS coaches do year round travel teams like Sachem North or the Smithtowns. Probably 7 or 8 out of 49 teams in suffolk. Not talking about going to a few fall tournaments, but teams that actually ask for the commitment of a travel program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.

If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO


I would imagine that it takes a lot more than two or three parents complaining. I would also like to believe that the complaints must have some merit. Parents saying "My son should be starting" is not going to get a coach removed. Bullying, abusive behavior, financial conflicts of interest or impropriety. Conduct unbecoming, legal issues etc...


Wrong. All it takes is someone who has a personal relationship with a board member. Most board members know nothing about athletics, coaches, etc and simply follow another board member's lead. SWR is a perfect example


That may be true for SWR, but it's a total blanket statement that isn't applicable anywhere else.

Not a single one of the coaches above were let go because of a mass protest against them. Also, only a few HS coaches do year round travel teams like Sachem North or the Smithtowns. Probably 7 or 8 out of 49 teams in suffolk. Not talking about going to a few fall tournaments, but teams that actually ask for the commitment of a travel program.


Regarding the travel programs, I think that is the exact point of contention. Some coaches ask for year round commitments. Others take the money and run with a weak summer-only program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/19/15 08:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sachem has an assistant taking over. They say seamless transition but that is just someone saying it. Lets see what happens this year.


Why are districts so willing to push out coaches that have great track records and are so dedicated to the program? I look at Sayville and have to cross my fingers and hope that doesn't happen in my district.


If 2 or 3 people complain enough, skittish AD's and superintendents will cave to the pressure. High School lax is crazy now. Look at the last few years....SWR, Sayville, Glenn, Sachem North, Huntington, HHHW, and a don't forget Smithtown West a bunch of years ago. Not one of these coaches deserved to be out of a job. These were coaches that put in a huge amount of time for their programs, but were treated poorly. It's HS not the pros. IMHO


I would imagine that it takes a lot more than two or three parents complaining. I would also like to believe that the complaints must have some merit. Parents saying "My son should be starting" is not going to get a coach removed. Bullying, abusive behavior, financial conflicts of interest or impropriety. Conduct unbecoming, legal issues etc...


Wrong. All it takes is someone who has a personal relationship with a board member. Most board members know nothing about athletics, coaches, etc and simply follow another board member's lead. SWR is a perfect example


That may be true for SWR, but it's a total blanket statement that isn't applicable anywhere else.


I believe Sayville is another one that can be cited.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 02:25 AM
No it can't. That is so far from the case of what happened in Sayville it's amazing. Maybe 4 people in the entire town believe that story.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 12:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No it can't. That is so far from the case of what happened in Sayville it's amazing. Maybe 4 people in the entire town believe that story.


What happened in Sayville?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No it can't. That is so far from the case of what happened in Sayville it's amazing. Maybe 4 people in the entire town believe that story.


What happened in Sayville?


I would rather hear the story that the four people believed happened in Sayville???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 06:49 PM
tell the story without names. please
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 08:30 PM
Ok. And let's move on just as Coach Doller has. The whole thing was wrong from the beginning. This had nothing to to do with "coaching" it had very little to do with parents or players. You would be hard pressed to find a handful of families to complain about Coach from his HS teams over the past 15+ years.

Last season the district took away varsity assistants across the board. The varsity assistant position was in the middle of a coaching change, well after the loss of the paid position the varsity coach could not find anyone. Coach Doller coached the varsity team by himself to the county championship. Nobody talks about that. He never said a word about it or complained, guess he just coached his a$$ off.
In January before the season started the AD told Coach D that there would be no JV assistant either. It was never mentioned before this nor is it listed in the districts budget cuts. The superintendent stood his ground while knowing that the had made a mistake or they never told him bc they DID NOT take the JV Football assistant away. Coach D let his parents know what the district had done, they went to the boe meeting with valid points and the JV assistant was reinstated. That evening behind closed doors coach D was fired for telling the parents to go to a boe meeting to fight for the lacrosse program. Not one of the BOE members is connected to lacrosse nor does any of their kids play? Its no secret that sayville is still a big football town, every member of the boe is connected to the football program and they have never supported the lacrosse program, it's a shame. At the end of the lax season Coach Doller was given a letter saying he would not be reinstated for the 2016 season. That's it. There was some backing by the quarterbacks dad bc he is very friendly with kohlar on the board. I think it was over the fact that he didn't receive all the awards he wanted at the end of the season?
Coach D worked with the Boe and superintendent all summer to try and resolve the situation. No dice

The boe is so small minded, short sighted and insecure. Why couldn't they admit their wrongs and work it out? Or point out ways Coach could improve his relationship with the boe? So who losses? Our kids and the sayville lacrosse program and I would guess Coach D, as I know he was not ready to hang it up.

I've watched and experience the lax program in our town grow and mature into something everyone involved could be proud of, It just got sent back 10 years. The BOE, superintendent and AD sold be ashamed.
Just saw a post on FB that Coach Doller will be an assistant at Farmingdale college. Congrats Coach, I wish you all the best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 08:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok. And let's move on just as Coach Doller has. The whole thing was wrong from the beginning. This had nothing to to do with "coaching" it had very little to do with parents or players. You would be hard pressed to find a handful of families to complain about Coach from his HS teams over the past 15+ years.

Last season the district took away varsity assistants across the board. The varsity assistant position was in the middle of a coaching change, well after the loss of the paid position the varsity coach could not find anyone. Coach Doller coached the varsity team by himself to the county championship. Nobody talks about that. He never said a word about it or complained, guess he just coached his a$$ off.
In January before the season started the AD told Coach D that there would be no JV assistant either. It was never mentioned before this nor is it listed in the districts budget cuts. The superintendent stood his ground while knowing that the had made a mistake or they never told him bc they DID NOT take the JV Football assistant away. Coach D let his parents know what the district had done, they went to the boe meeting with valid points and the JV assistant was reinstated. That evening behind closed doors coach D was fired for telling the parents to go to a boe meeting to fight for the lacrosse program. Not one of the BOE members is connected to lacrosse nor does any of their kids play? Its no secret that sayville is still a big football town, every member of the boe is connected to the football program and they have never supported the lacrosse program, it's a shame. At the end of the lax season Coach Doller was given a letter saying he would not be reinstated for the 2016 season. That's it. There was some backing by the quarterbacks dad bc he is very friendly with kohlar on the board. I think it was over the fact that he didn't receive all the awards he wanted at the end of the season?
Coach D worked with the Boe and superintendent all summer to try and resolve the situation. No dice

The boe is so small minded, short sighted and insecure. Why couldn't they admit their wrongs and work it out? Or point out ways Coach could improve his relationship with the boe? So who losses? Our kids and the sayville lacrosse program and I would guess Coach D, as I know he was not ready to hang it up.

I've watched and experience the lax program in our town grow and mature into something everyone involved could be proud of, It just got sent back 10 years. The BOE, superintendent and AD sold be ashamed.
Just saw a post on FB that Coach Doller will be an assistant at Farmingdale college. Congrats Coach, I wish you all the best.


That could have been written by the captain of the Lithuanian bobsled team. Virtually every thing that was written is wrong. I'm not even exaggerating. That entire novel contained nothing but lies and opinions. Absolutely incredible. Well, not every thing was a lie. Coach Doller WAS the coach. That's true.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 09:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok. And let's move on just as Coach Doller has. The whole thing was wrong from the beginning. This had nothing to to do with "coaching" it had very little to do with parents or players. You would be hard pressed to find a handful of families to complain about Coach from his HS teams over the past 15+ years.

Last season the district took away varsity assistants across the board. The varsity assistant position was in the middle of a coaching change, well after the loss of the paid position the varsity coach could not find anyone. Coach Doller coached the varsity team by himself to the county championship. Nobody talks about that. He never said a word about it or complained, guess he just coached his a$$ off.
In January before the season started the AD told Coach D that there would be no JV assistant either. It was never mentioned before this nor is it listed in the districts budget cuts. The superintendent stood his ground while knowing that the had made a mistake or they never told him bc they DID NOT take the JV Football assistant away. Coach D let his parents know what the district had done, they went to the boe meeting with valid points and the JV assistant was reinstated. That evening behind closed doors coach D was fired for telling the parents to go to a boe meeting to fight for the lacrosse program. Not one of the BOE members is connected to lacrosse nor does any of their kids play? Its no secret that sayville is still a big football town, every member of the boe is connected to the football program and they have never supported the lacrosse program, it's a shame. At the end of the lax season Coach Doller was given a letter saying he would not be reinstated for the 2016 season. That's it. There was some backing by the quarterbacks dad bc he is very friendly with kohlar on the board. I think it was over the fact that he didn't receive all the awards he wanted at the end of the season?
Coach D worked with the Boe and superintendent all summer to try and resolve the situation. No dice

The boe is so small minded, short sighted and insecure. Why couldn't they admit their wrongs and work it out? Or point out ways Coach could improve his relationship with the boe? So who losses? Our kids and the sayville lacrosse program and I would guess Coach D, as I know he was not ready to hang it up.

I've watched and experience the lax program in our town grow and mature into something everyone involved could be proud of, It just got sent back 10 years. The BOE, superintendent and AD sold be ashamed.
Just saw a post on FB that Coach Doller will be an assistant at Farmingdale college. Congrats Coach, I wish you all the best.


That could have been written by the captain of the Lithuanian bobsled team. Virtually every thing that was written is wrong. I'm not even exaggerating. That entire novel contained nothing but lies and opinions. Absolutely incredible. Well, not every thing was a lie. Coach Doller WAS the coach. That's true.


What was untrue?? I think that pretty much sums it up. The only thing that was untrue was that Coach D did have an assistant this year. It's the current coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 09:19 PM
Wow. It's all true. Go find Coach D and tell him to his face that everything that has gone on is a lie. I've been very close to the situation for years. And you obviously have an ax to grind and probably don't have a kid even playing lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 09:25 PM
I wonder why this guy feels compelled to stand up for the BOE? Hmmmm
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 09:36 PM
No he was the JV assistant, he only got him half the games. All I know is every home game I saw Doller was by himself. Islip, Huntington
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 09:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow. It's all true. Go find Coach D and tell him to his face that everything that has gone on is a lie. I've been very close to the situation for years. And you obviously have an ax to grind and probably don't have a kid even playing lacrosse.


You've been lied to for years.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/20/15 09:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok. And let's move on just as Coach Doller has. The whole thing was wrong from the beginning. This had nothing to to do with "coaching" it had very little to do with parents or players. You would be hard pressed to find a handful of families to complain about Coach from his HS teams over the past 15+ years.

Last season the district took away varsity assistants across the board. The varsity assistant position was in the middle of a coaching change, well after the loss of the paid position the varsity coach could not find anyone. Coach Doller coached the varsity team by himself to the county championship. Nobody talks about that. He never said a word about it or complained, guess he just coached his a$$ off.
In January before the season started the AD told Coach D that there would be no JV assistant either. It was never mentioned before this nor is it listed in the districts budget cuts. The superintendent stood his ground while knowing that the had made a mistake or they never told him bc they DID NOT take the JV Football assistant away. Coach D let his parents know what the district had done, they went to the boe meeting with valid points and the JV assistant was reinstated. That evening behind closed doors coach D was fired for telling the parents to go to a boe meeting to fight for the lacrosse program. Not one of the BOE members is connected to lacrosse nor does any of their kids play? Its no secret that sayville is still a big football town, every member of the boe is connected to the football program and they have never supported the lacrosse program, it's a shame. At the end of the lax season Coach Doller was given a letter saying he would not be reinstated for the 2016 season. That's it. There was some backing by the quarterbacks dad bc he is very friendly with kohlar on the board. I think it was over the fact that he didn't receive all the awards he wanted at the end of the season?
Coach D worked with the Boe and superintendent all summer to try and resolve the situation. No dice

The boe is so small minded, short sighted and insecure. Why couldn't they admit their wrongs and work it out? Or point out ways Coach could improve his relationship with the boe? So who losses? Our kids and the sayville lacrosse program and I would guess Coach D, as I know he was not ready to hang it up.

I've watched and experience the lax program in our town grow and mature into something everyone involved could be proud of, It just got sent back 10 years. The BOE, superintendent and AD sold be ashamed.
Just saw a post on FB that Coach Doller will be an assistant at Farmingdale college. Congrats Coach, I wish you all the best.


That could have been written by the captain of the Lithuanian bobsled team. Virtually every thing that was written is wrong. I'm not even exaggerating. That entire novel contained nothing but lies and opinions. Absolutely incredible. Well, not every thing was a lie. Coach Doller WAS the coach. That's true.


What was untrue?? I think that pretty much sums it up. The only thing that was untrue was that Coach D did have an assistant this year. It's the current coach.


Not sure who you are but you just proved how distant you are from the lacrosse program and the axe you have to grind is gigantic. The JV assistant was hired to replace coach Doller. Last season coach Doller did indeed coach the team to the counties BY HIMSELF. If the prior post about what actually transpired is full of lies, please tell us your version of what happened.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/21/15 12:22 PM
The Sayville situation is an embarrassment for the entire town. When would any organization push out a leader with the record of Coach Doller and replace him with someone with a record of failure like Don Fleming? It would never happen in the real world, only in the inbred world of town politics. Score one for the Board of Ed and especially our wonderful Superintendent who spearheaded this witch hunt.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/21/15 05:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok. And let's move on just as Coach Doller has. The whole thing was wrong from the beginning. This had nothing to to do with "coaching" it had very little to do with parents or players. You would be hard pressed to find a handful of families to complain about Coach from his HS teams over the past 15+ years.

Last season the district took away varsity assistants across the board. The varsity assistant position was in the middle of a coaching change, well after the loss of the paid position the varsity coach could not find anyone. Coach Doller coached the varsity team by himself to the county championship. Nobody talks about that. He never said a word about it or complained, guess he just coached his a$$ off.
In January before the season started the AD told Coach D that there would be no JV assistant either. It was never mentioned before this nor is it listed in the districts budget cuts. The superintendent stood his ground while knowing that the had made a mistake or they never told him bc they DID NOT take the JV Football assistant away. Coach D let his parents know what the district had done, they went to the boe meeting with valid points and the JV assistant was reinstated. That evening behind closed doors coach D was fired for telling the parents to go to a boe meeting to fight for the lacrosse program. Not one of the BOE members is connected to lacrosse nor does any of their kids play? Its no secret that sayville is still a big football town, every member of the boe is connected to the football program and they have never supported the lacrosse program, it's a shame. At the end of the lax season Coach Doller was given a letter saying he would not be reinstated for the 2016 season. That's it. There was some backing by the quarterbacks dad bc he is very friendly with kohlar on the board. I think it was over the fact that he didn't receive all the awards he wanted at the end of the season?
Coach D worked with the Boe and superintendent all summer to try and resolve the situation. No dice

The boe is so small minded, short sighted and insecure. Why couldn't they admit their wrongs and work it out? Or point out ways Coach could improve his relationship with the boe? So who losses? Our kids and the sayville lacrosse program and I would guess Coach D, as I know he was not ready to hang it up.

I've watched and experience the lax program in our town grow and mature into something everyone involved could be proud of, It just got sent back 10 years. The BOE, superintendent and AD sold be ashamed.
Just saw a post on FB that Coach Doller will be an assistant at Farmingdale college. Congrats Coach, I wish you all the best.


That could have been written by the captain of the Lithuanian bobsled team. Virtually every thing that was written is wrong. I'm not even exaggerating. That entire novel contained nothing but lies and opinions. Absolutely incredible. Well, not every thing was a lie. Coach Doller WAS the coach. That's true.

Not sure about the quaterback thing (just don't have any info there, but everything else is spot on) but every other word of the original statement is true. What wasn't mentioned is that Superintendent hasn't been a fan of Coach D for years and has been waiting for a situation to burn him. He got his chance minutes after the board just took another beating from the public from the lax parents that night in February, (might I add another black eye brought on by the Superintendent upon which he has made the board look stupid and weak several times in the last two years). The board was angry and Super immediately put coach d's firing to a vote immediately after this meeting. It was approved at this meeting. So this all was done in the same night of that meeting. The BOE has had so many black eyes and looked so flip-floppy weak they couldn't back down on this one, to the detriment of our kids. Time for Super to go. #FWS

The only embarrassment here is the Super. The community has nothing to be ashamed of. Coach D. is well on his way to much more lucrative pastures in his new partnerships, and will be better off financially ten-fold to what he lost on a silly coaching salary. He will still have a positive impact on our community, and help out young lacrosse players. It will just be on his terms and will cost more to be a part of his program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/21/15 07:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Ok. And let's move on just as Coach Doller has. The whole thing was wrong from the beginning. This had nothing to to do with "coaching" it had very little to do with parents or players. You would be hard pressed to find a handful of families to complain about Coach from his HS teams over the past 15+ years.

Last season the district took away varsity assistants across the board. The varsity assistant position was in the middle of a coaching change, well after the loss of the paid position the varsity coach could not find anyone. Coach Doller coached the varsity team by himself to the county championship. Nobody talks about that. He never said a word about it or complained, guess he just coached his a$$ off.
In January before the season started the AD told Coach D that there would be no JV assistant either. It was never mentioned before this nor is it listed in the districts budget cuts. The superintendent stood his ground while knowing that the had made a mistake or they never told him bc they DID NOT take the JV Football assistant away. Coach D let his parents know what the district had done, they went to the boe meeting with valid points and the JV assistant was reinstated. That evening behind closed doors coach D was fired for telling the parents to go to a boe meeting to fight for the lacrosse program. Not one of the BOE members is connected to lacrosse nor does any of their kids play? Its no secret that sayville is still a big football town, every member of the boe is connected to the football program and they have never supported the lacrosse program, it's a shame. At the end of the lax season Coach Doller was given a letter saying he would not be reinstated for the 2016 season. That's it. There was some backing by the quarterbacks dad bc he is very friendly with kohlar on the board. I think it was over the fact that he didn't receive all the awards he wanted at the end of the season?
Coach D worked with the Boe and superintendent all summer to try and resolve the situation. No dice

The boe is so small minded, short sighted and insecure. Why couldn't they admit their wrongs and work it out? Or point out ways Coach could improve his relationship with the boe? So who losses? Our kids and the sayville lacrosse program and I would guess Coach D, as I know he was not ready to hang it up.

I've watched and experience the lax program in our town grow and mature into something everyone involved could be proud of, It just got sent back 10 years. The BOE, superintendent and AD sold be ashamed.
Just saw a post on FB that Coach Doller will be an assistant at Farmingdale college. Congrats Coach, I wish you all the best.


That could have been written by the captain of the Lithuanian bobsled team. Virtually every thing that was written is wrong. I'm not even exaggerating. That entire novel contained nothing but lies and opinions. Absolutely incredible. Well, not every thing was a lie. Coach Doller WAS the coach. That's true.

Not sure about the quaterback thing (just don't have any info there, but everything else is spot on) but every other word of the original statement is true. What wasn't mentioned is that Superintendent hasn't been a fan of Coach D for years and has been waiting for a situation to burn him. He got his chance minutes after the board just took another beating from the public from the lax parents that night in February, (might I add another black eye brought on by the Superintendent upon which he has made the board look stupid and weak several times in the last two years). The board was angry and Super immediately put coach d's firing to a vote immediately after this meeting. It was approved at this meeting. So this all was done in the same night of that meeting. The BOE has had so many black eyes and looked so flip-floppy weak they couldn't back down on this one, to the detriment of our kids. Time for Super to go. #FWS

The only embarrassment here is the Super. The community has nothing to be ashamed of. Coach D. is well on his way to much more lucrative pastures in his new partnerships, and will be better off financially ten-fold to what he lost on a silly coaching salary. He will still have a positive impact on our community, and help out young lacrosse players. It will just be on his terms and will cost more to be a part of his program.


Go Fighting Ducks!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/22/15 10:23 PM
Any report from farmingdale
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/22/15 11:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any report from farmingdale


He's coaching at farmingdale. Is that what you meant?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 03:55 AM
No what HS teams did well?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 11:13 AM
Go on the website. All
Results posted. Many teams went 3-0. St Anthony's, Masapequa, Smithtown East. And a bunch from out is state.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 01:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No what HS teams did well?


None, too many teams missing too many players. Not a good environment to judge a Team. Close to home and if you are not on the recruiting trail it is fine.

Not a bad day of lacrosse but they really need to stop billing this as a top recruiting event. Just call it a "Tournament". Not very competitive and very few college coaches in attendance.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No what HS teams did well?


None, too many teams missing too many players. Not a good environment to judge a Team. Close to home and if you are not on the recruiting trail it is fine.

Not a bad day of lacrosse but they really need to stop billing this as a top recruiting event. Just call it a "Tournament". Not very competitive and very few college coaches in attendance.

Strange comment. Did you see the list of teams there? And well over 100 college coaches there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 03:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No what HS teams did well?


None, too many teams missing too many players. Not a good environment to judge a Team. Close to home and if you are not on the recruiting trail it is fine.

Not a bad day of lacrosse but they really need to stop billing this as a top recruiting event. Just call it a "Tournament". Not very competitive and very few college coaches in attendance.

Strange comment. Did you see the list of teams there? And well over 100 college coaches there.


Not strange at all. Just pointing out that it is not indicative of most HS Teams. Many of the teams are missing players and many of the kids have been playing a fall sport. None of the teams did "well" relative to where they will be in the spring.

for the 17's who are still trying to find a home and for the 18's in the middle of the recruiting process and certainly for the 19's this is not a "premier recruiting event". That is how the organizers market this tournament.

There is nothing wrong with the event but to say that it is a big time recruiting tournament is misleading.

Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 04:13 PM
Hate to break it to you all but an asst coach at Farmingdale will make probably half of what a HS coach makes. Then they have to travel and work like crazy. Most people go the asst route when they are building a resume that's whay all these college teams have 5 or more assts
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No what HS teams did well?


None, too many teams missing too many players. Not a good environment to judge a Team. Close to home and if you are not on the recruiting trail it is fine.

Not a bad day of lacrosse but they really need to stop billing this as a top recruiting event. Just call it a "Tournament". Not very competitive and very few college coaches in attendance.

Strange comment. Did you see the list of teams there? And well over 100 college coaches there.


Not strange at all. Just pointing out that it is not indicative of most HS Teams. Many of the teams are missing players and many of the kids have been playing a fall sport. None of the teams did "well" relative to where they will be in the spring.

for the 17's who are still trying to find a home and for the 18's in the middle of the recruiting process and certainly for the 19's this is not a "premier recruiting event". That is how the organizers market this tournament.

There is nothing wrong with the event but to say that it is a big time recruiting tournament is misleading.



My son got about good 10 calls from this event last year. He eventually chose another school, but it was a very good recruiting even for us.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 08:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hate to break it to you all but an asst coach at Farmingdale will make probably half of what a HS coach makes. Then they have to travel and work like crazy. Most people go the asst route when they are building a resume that's whay all these college teams have 5 or more assts


Do you really think he was coaching for the money? Get real. By the way, as the program declines over the coming years, please don't be the guy whining.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 08:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No what HS teams did well?


None, too many teams missing too many players. Not a good environment to judge a Team. Close to home and if you are not on the recruiting trail it is fine.

Not a bad day of lacrosse but they really need to stop billing this as a top recruiting event. Just call it a "Tournament". Not very competitive and very few college coaches in attendance.

Strange comment. Did you see the list of teams there? And well over 100 college coaches there.


Not strange at all. Just pointing out that it is not indicative of most HS Teams. Many of the teams are missing players and many of the kids have been playing a fall sport. None of the teams did "well" relative to where they will be in the spring.

for the 17's who are still trying to find a home and for the 18's in the middle of the recruiting process and certainly for the 19's this is not a "premier recruiting event". That is how the organizers market this tournament.

There is nothing wrong with the event but to say that it is a big time recruiting tournament is misleading.



My son got about good 10 calls from this event last year. He eventually chose another school, but it was a very good recruiting even for us.


What grade was he in at the time, and were the calls a result of the individual event?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 08:53 PM
There were college coaches everywhere. A lot of high school teams chose to leave their committed senors home, so other kids would get a look.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 09:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hate to break it to you all but an asst coach at Farmingdale will make probably half of what a HS coach makes. Then they have to travel and work like crazy. Most people go the asst route when they are building a resume that's whay all these college teams have 5 or more assts

Hate to break it to you, but the lure of the job isn't the salary. It is the access to the facilities for his club. The club and the clinics is where the cash is at. But obviously you are a short sighted fool so you can't see that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/23/15 09:23 PM
My son is a 2019. College coaches approached his HS coach at the field yesterday
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/24/15 02:18 AM
Any predictions for Suffolk Girls A,B,C?
Will 631 sweep LI again?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/24/15 02:51 PM
We have an assistant coach exhibiting disturbing behavior... what a nut... professional help may be required...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/24/15 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any predictions for Suffolk Girls A,B,C?
Will 631 sweep LI again?


Another Suffolk sweep, but scratch Mt.Sinai, enter Bayport/Blue Point.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/24/15 03:59 PM
What about the A and B Divisions
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/24/15 04:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What about the A and B Divisions


West Islip. ESM not so sure about
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/24/15 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hate to break it to you all but an asst coach at Farmingdale will make probably half of what a HS coach makes. Then they have to travel and work like crazy. Most people go the asst route when they are building a resume that's whay all these college teams have 5 or more assts

Hate to break it to you, but the lure of the job isn't the salary. It is the access to the facilities for his club. The club and the clinics is where the cash is at. But obviously you are a short sighted fool so you can't see that.


Doesn't the head coach have another travel club affiliation? Will he let his asst have the access he is looking for to support the competition?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/24/15 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
No what HS teams did well?


None, too many teams missing too many players. Not a good environment to judge a Team. Close to home and if you are not on the recruiting trail it is fine.

Not a bad day of lacrosse but they really need to stop billing this as a top recruiting event. Just call it a "Tournament". Not very competitive and very few college coaches in attendance.

Strange comment. Did you see the list of teams there? And well over 100 college coaches there.


Not strange at all. Just pointing out that it is not indicative of most HS Teams. Many of the teams are missing players and many of the kids have been playing a fall sport. None of the teams did "well" relative to where they will be in the spring.

for the 17's who are still trying to find a home and for the 18's in the middle of the recruiting process and certainly for the 19's this is not a "premier recruiting event". That is how the organizers market this tournament.

There is nothing wrong with the event but to say that it is a big time recruiting tournament is misleading.



My son got about good 10 calls from this event last year. He eventually chose another school, but it was a very good recruiting even for us.


What grade was he in at the time, and were the calls a result of the individual event?

10th. The regular HS games.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/24/15 07:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Hate to break it to you all but an asst coach at Farmingdale will make probably half of what a HS coach makes. Then they have to travel and work like crazy. Most people go the asst route when they are building a resume that's whay all these college teams have 5 or more assts

Hate to break it to you, but the lure of the job isn't the salary. It is the access to the facilities for his club. The club and the clinics is where the cash is at. But obviously you are a short sighted fool so you can't see that.


Doesn't the head coach have another travel club affiliation? Will he let his asst have the access he is looking for to support the competition?

I am sure there is common thread between the two clubs. Otherwise the two coaches wouldn't be coaching together.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/24/15 10:04 PM
158 coaches. Not a great turnout at all
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/25/15 01:32 AM
Question. When are college coaches able to contact players? I though it wasn't until Jr year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Spring Lacrosse - 11/25/15 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question. When are college coaches able to contact players? I though it wasn't until Jr year.


The game is simple. The college coach contacts the HS or club coach and asks him to pass along his phone number to the player/parent to call the college coach. There is no rule against kid/parent contacting the college coach. Also, they will contact kids via e-mail. They send an e-mail in which they write "we are unable to contact you about recruiting...." attached will be a questionnaire with a special code.
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 11/25/15 01:18 PM
Will the dominance of Wantagh, Manhasset and GC continue on the girls side? Does anyone else have even a punchers chance?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/25/15 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will the dominance of Wantagh, Manhasset and GC continue on the girls side? Does anyone else have even a punchers chance?

You're referring to inside Nassau County only I assume.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/26/15 03:32 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will the dominance of Wantagh, Manhasset and GC continue on the girls side? Does anyone else have even a punchers chance?

You're referring to inside Nassau County only I assume.


no, westchester
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 11/26/15 05:54 PM
go watch the Danowski "Parents are crazy you tube video from laxcon"

Says some interesting things-
Fall tournaments are a joke, kids are freezing and everyone is just showing off
They practice 350 days and only play games 15 days
Lacrosse is the #1 sport for recreational drug use
Final 4 TV and game attendance is plummeting
Said he never got a video of a goalie letting one in
Never got a video of a lost draw
Says parents are insane with staying to watch practices
social media can kill careers and programs
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/01/15 04:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
go watch the Danowski "Parents are crazy you tube video from laxcon"

Says some interesting things-
Fall tournaments are a joke, kids are freezing and everyone is just showing off
They practice 350 days and only play games 15 days
Lacrosse is the #1 sport for recreational drug use
Final 4 TV and game attendance is plummeting
Said he never got a video of a goalie letting one in
Never got a video of a lost draw
Says parents are insane with staying to watch practices
social media can kill careers and programs


What is so interesting?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/01/15 02:16 PM
Not very flattering news or thoughts on the game
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/02/15 02:29 PM
So, how did things get settled regarding the head coach job in Sayville boys? Curious.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/02/15 05:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, how did things get settled regarding the head coach job in Sayville boys? Curious.


Head Coach was not asked to return. The Assistant Coach will be taking over.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/02/15 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, how did things get settled regarding the head coach job in Sayville boys? Curious.


Head Coach was not asked to return. The Assistant Coach will be taking over.


The JV coach is taking over at Sayville. Since my kids compete against Sayville, I couldn't be happier.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/02/15 06:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
go watch the Danowski "Parents are crazy you tube video from laxcon"

Says some interesting things-
Fall tournaments are a joke, kids are freezing and everyone is just showing off
They practice 350 days and only play games 15 days
Lacrosse is the #1 sport for recreational drug use
Final 4 TV and game attendance is plummeting
Said he never got a video of a goalie letting one in
Never got a video of a lost draw
Says parents are insane with staying to watch practices
social media can kill careers and programs


And he and other coaches are recruiting 12 and 13 year olds, driving much of the insanity. Why doesn't he start the process of "cleaning up" the situation. His hypocrisy is what is most interesting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/03/15 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
go watch the Danowski "Parents are crazy you tube video from laxcon"

Says some interesting things-
Fall tournaments are a joke, kids are freezing and everyone is just showing off
They practice 350 days and only play games 15 days
Lacrosse is the #1 sport for recreational drug use
Final 4 TV and game attendance is plummeting
Said he never got a video of a goalie letting one in
Never got a video of a lost draw
Says parents are insane with staying to watch practices
social media can kill careers and programs


And he and other coaches are recruiting 12 and 13 year olds, driving much of the insanity. Why doesn't he start the process of "cleaning up" the situation. His hypocrisy is what is most interesting.


100% correct. He complains about the problem that he helped to create.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/03/15 02:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, how did things get settled regarding the head coach job in Sayville boys? Curious.


Head Coach was not asked to return. The Assistant Coach will be taking over.


The JV coach is taking over at Sayville. Since my kids compete against Sayville, I couldn't be happier.


Says the unhappy Sayville parent
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/03/15 06:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
So, how did things get settled regarding the head coach job in Sayville boys? Curious.


Head Coach was not asked to return. The Assistant Coach will be taking over.


The JV coach is taking over at Sayville. Since my kids compete against Sayville, I couldn't be happier.


Nope, just an Islip Dad who knows some Sayville lax people. The true lax people in Sayville loved coach Dollar, the pretenders didn't like his style. Soft, weak parents with sheltered kids who couldn't cut it without Mommas help. You get what you deserve.
Says the unhappy Sayville parent
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/03/15 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]So, how did things get settled regarding the head coach job in Sayville boys? Curious.


Head Coach was not asked to return. The Assistant Coach will be taking over.


The JV coach is taking over at Sayville. Since my kids compete against Sayville, I couldn't be happier.


Nope, just an Islip Dad who knows some Sayville lax people. The true lax people in Sayville loved coach Dollar, the pretenders didn't like his style. Soft, weak parents with sheltered kids who couldn't cut it without Mommas help. You get what you deserve.


Let's hope so. You're not from Islip, but if you were, you would only have the side of coach's camp. That happens to be the side with less facts. Besides, since when does SAyville need a good coach to beat Islip??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/03/15 09:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]So, how did things get settled regarding the head coach job in Sayville boys? Curious.


Head Coach was not asked to return. The Assistant Coach will be taking over.


The JV coach is taking over at Sayville. Since my kids compete against Sayville, I couldn't be happier.


Nope, just an Islip Dad who knows some Sayville lax people. The true lax people in Sayville loved coach Dollar, the pretenders didn't like his style. Soft, weak parents with sheltered kids who couldn't cut it without Mommas help. You get what you deserve.


Let's hope so. You're not from Islip, but if you were, you would only have the side of coach's camp. That happens to be the side with less facts. Besides, since when does SAyville need a good coach to beat Islip??


Didn't know there were sides to the removal of the coach. I was told administration didn't like the coach and parents embarrassed them at a board meeting. So the coach got the axe. I'm assume you have a different version of the truth but I don't care. Looking forward to kicking some soft Sayville butt this season. BTW, my buddy said they won't make it to the county championship like last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/03/15 11:38 PM
Sayville may not make playoffs. Their wont even have any all-county players on the team this season when they vote on the awards at the end. Sayville is officially a non-issue in Suffolk County.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/04/15 01:52 AM
Sayville would win more than the lose with me coaching them. Give the boys some credit
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/04/15 11:37 PM
How will MC girls lacrosse be/ I think West Islip will have a good shot and wardmelville will have a good shot
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/04/15 11:39 PM
WHO WILL WIN SUFFOLK GIRLS MELVILLE,NORTHPORT,WI,MC, SMITHEAST,SMITHWEST
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/06/15 02:31 AM
If the WM coach can stay out of the way and let the kids play they should have a good season. She's clueless when it comes to any aspect of coaching high school girls. Team management, X's and O's, who and where to play kids are completely lost on her.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/06/15 04:52 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sayville would win more than the lose with me coaching them. Give the boys some credit


So now the bar is set so low that winning more than losing is okay?
Good luck you soft Sayville losers. Islip has tougher kids, bigger hearts and supportive
parents. We will beat Sayville.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/06/15 01:43 PM
The boys lacrosse program at sayville is done! The mentality that the team played with was a tough, aggressive,confident, winning mentality that was projected from the head coach. That guy was everywhere for his program and I KNOW the parents and players loved the guy. I know there is one poster on here that will completely disagree but he don't even have a kid on the program. If he did he would upset at what the boe has done.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/06/15 01:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sayville would win more than the lose with me coaching them. Give the boys some credit


So now the bar is set so low that winning more than losing is okay?
Good luck you soft Sayville losers. Islip has tougher kids, bigger hearts and supportive
parents. We will beat Sayville.


Keep dreaming. That's funny an Islip guy calling Sayvile people losers!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/06/15 06:02 PM
WI and MC should be tough. Maybe Northport. Should be a good year, I don't think anyone is the clear favorite this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/07/15 04:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sayville would win more than the lose with me coaching them. Give the boys some credit


So now the bar is set so low that winning more than losing is okay?
Good luck you soft Sayville losers. Islip has tougher kids, bigger hearts and supportive
parents. We will beat Sayville.


Keep dreaming. That's funny an Islip guy calling Sayvile people losers!


Sayville Dad here. Every program around us has been getting stronger and I have to
believe we will take a step backwards. FWIW, I still can't figure out why coach Doller wasn't brought back. It's truly baffling and I don't think administration should make
personnel decisions without providing reasons for major changes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/07/15 05:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sayville would win more than the lose with me coaching them. Give the boys some credit


So now the bar is set so low that winning more than losing is okay?
Good luck you soft Sayville losers. Islip has tougher kids, bigger hearts and supportive
parents. We will beat Sayville.


Keep dreaming. That's funny an Islip guy calling Sayvile people losers!


Sayville Dad here. Every program around us has been getting stronger and I have to
believe we will take a step backwards. FWIW, I still can't figure out why coach Doller wasn't brought back. It's truly baffling and I don't think administration should make
personnel decisions without providing reasons for major changes.


It's against policy to comment on personnel issues (zero accountability) until elections. I agree, we should be made aware why decisions are being made, especially under these circumstances.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/07/15 08:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sayville would win more than the lose with me coaching them. Give the boys some credit


So now the bar is set so low that winning more than losing is okay?
Good luck you soft Sayville losers. Islip has tougher kids, bigger hearts and supportive
parents. We will beat Sayville.


Keep dreaming. That's funny an Islip guy calling Sayvile people losers!


Sayville Dad here. Every program around us has been getting stronger and I have to
believe we will take a step backwards. FWIW, I still can't figure out why coach Doller wasn't brought back. It's truly baffling and I don't think administration should make
personnel decisions without providing reasons for major changes.


It's against policy to comment on personnel issues (zero accountability) until elections. I agree, we should be made aware why decisions are being made, especially under these circumstances.


It's also illegal.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/07/15 08:50 PM
We have been over this many times. Parents stood up for the lax program last February and made them loom bad. The coach was fired bc he let the parents know what was going on. So the coach that started the program and has directed for 15+ years was fired. Correct, the lax community will speak up come election time. They will be picked off one at a time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/07/15 08:51 PM
Haven't been on this board in weeks and holy sh*t, we are still talking about Sayville?? Geez.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/07/15 09:32 PM
You new here...

Better than SWR
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haven't been on this board in weeks and holy sh*t, we are still talking about Sayville?? Geez.


We were looking forward to our son playing for coach Doller, now because of some hurt feelings or bruised egos that will not happen. BOE should not allow ego or emotion to enter decision making process. Can anyone really declare the best guy for the job will be coaching our team this year? Glad someone stepped in but the JV coach is absolutely not an upgrade to coach Doller. So then why make the change? I will ask at the next BOE meeting and its not a "personnel" query.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 03:16 PM
care factor about Sayville? ZERO
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 03:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
care factor about Sayville? ZERO


Idiot, your post raises the care factor up from zero. Sayville people care, many Suffolk lax people care.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 03:48 PM
been meaning to ask, is the moderator checking to see if the poster name for this thread (A Holl) really something else if you spell it hole?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 04:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haven't been on this board in weeks and holy sh*t, we are still talking about Sayville?? Geez.


We were looking forward to our son playing for coach Doller, now because of some hurt feelings or bruised egos that will not happen. BOE should not allow ego or emotion to enter decision making process. Can anyone really declare the best guy for the job will be coaching our team this year? Glad someone stepped in but the JV coach is absolutely not an upgrade to coach Doller. So then why make the change? I will ask at the next BOE meeting and its not a "personnel" query.


Good lord, let it go. No one has said anything in his defense at a board meeting yet. You're definitely not going to start now, after all is said and done. The board had numerous reasons for their decision. The program will be just fine. It's about the kids, not the coach (at least it has been in Sayville, historically).
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 06:03 PM
Newsday website has a listing of 2016 Divison one commitments by sport:
see link: http://sports.newsday.com/long-island/data/high-school/college-commitments-2016/

#1 girls lacrosse = 54
#2 boys lacrosse = 36

* zero for football
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 06:33 PM
When is sayville football coach getting fired. Looks like the quarterback didn't get Hansen award.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haven't been on this board in weeks and holy sh*t, we are still talking about Sayville?? Geez.


We were looking forward to our son playing for coach Doller, now because of some hurt feelings or bruised egos that will not happen. BOE should not allow ego or emotion to enter decision making process. Can anyone really declare the best guy for the job will be coaching our team this year? Glad someone stepped in but the JV coach is absolutely not an upgrade to coach Doller. So then why make the change? I will ask at the next BOE meeting and its not a "personnel" query.


It's Division III lacrosse. They have an incredibly weak schedule of opponents. If they have 3 kids on the team that played travel for a few years they'll make the county championship. And that's if my grandmother is coaching.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haven't been on this board in weeks and holy sh*t, we are still talking about Sayville?? Geez.


We were looking forward to our son playing for coach Doller, now because of some hurt feelings or bruised egos that will not happen. BOE should not allow ego or emotion to enter decision making process. Can anyone really declare the best guy for the job will be coaching our team this year? Glad someone stepped in but the JV coach is absolutely not an upgrade to coach Doller. So then why make the change? I will ask at the next BOE meeting and its not a "personnel" query.


Good lord, let it go. No one has said anything in his defense at a board meeting yet. You're definitely not going to start now, after all is said and done. The board had numerous reasons for their decision. The program will be just fine. It's about the kids, not the coach (at least it has been in Sayville, historically).


The BOE had numerous reasons to replace the long time successful coach with a JV flunky? Are you serious? Where outside of inbred Sayville BOE is that an acceptable rationale decision?

If its about the kids more than the coach (its a combo obviously) than we should in the Suffolk County championship this season, but my bet is we don't make it that far.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 07:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haven't been on this board in weeks and holy sh*t, we are still talking about Sayville?? Geez.


We were looking forward to our son playing for coach Doller, now because of some hurt feelings or bruised egos that will not happen. BOE should not allow ego or emotion to enter decision making process. Can anyone really declare the best guy for the job will be coaching our team this year? Glad someone stepped in but the JV coach is absolutely not an upgrade to coach Doller. So then why make the change? I will ask at the next BOE meeting and its not a "personnel" query.


It's Division III lacrosse. They have an incredibly weak schedule of opponents. If they have 3 kids on the team that played travel for a few years they'll make the county championship. And that's if my grandmother is coaching.

Lots of wrong statements in this post. Sayville is Class B in lax not Div III. And way off on the schedule as well. SWR, Comsewogue, Miller Place, ESM, and on and on.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haven't been on this board in weeks and holy sh*t, we are still talking about Sayville?? Geez.


We were looking forward to our son playing for coach Doller, now because of some hurt feelings or bruised egos that will not happen. BOE should not allow ego or emotion to enter decision making process. Can anyone really declare the best guy for the job will be coaching our team this year? Glad someone stepped in but the JV coach is absolutely not an upgrade to coach Doller. So then why make the change? I will ask at the next BOE meeting and its not a "personnel" query.


Good lord, let it go. No one has said anything in his defense at a board meeting yet. You're definitely not going to start now, after all is said and done. The board had numerous reasons for their decision. The program will be just fine. It's about the kids, not the coach (at least it has been in Sayville, historically).


The BOE had numerous reasons to replace the long time successful coach with a JV flunky? Are you serious? Where outside of inbred Sayville BOE is that an acceptable rationale decision?


Yes, they had multiple reasons. I think that has been clearly established. You keep saying the same thing over and over but you are not equipped with the actual facts. You just keep repeating what has been told to you by lackies. It had virtually nothing to do with the events last spring about the asst coach and the fact that you base your argument on that shows how truly uninformed and disconnected you are. As the old saying goes, the loudest voice is often not the correct one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 08:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Newsday website has a listing of 2016 Divison one commitments by sport:
see link: http://sports.newsday.com/long-island/data/high-school/college-commitments-2016/

#1 girls lacrosse = 54
#2 boys lacrosse = 36

* zero for football


not so sure this is accurate. Chaminade cant just have 2 and Syosset 10.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 08:24 PM
In looking at the new 2016 schedules does the league or coaches ever look at who played at which HS the prior year. I know there have been realignment but it doesnt take to much to make sure you dont get a few years of home games against certain opponents.

I see many school having another home game verses a team they did last year. How can that be. In HS home field is a great advantage no bus ride among the biggest.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 08:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Newsday website has a listing of 2016 Divison one commitments by sport:
see link: http://sports.newsday.com/long-island/data/high-school/college-commitments-2016/

#1 girls lacrosse = 54
#2 boys lacrosse = 36

* zero for football


not so sure this is accurate. Chaminade cant just have 2 and Syosset 10.


Not a full list, that is why that have a link at the top to add more commits.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 08:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Newsday website has a listing of 2016 Divison one commitments by sport:
see link: http://sports.newsday.com/long-island/data/high-school/college-commitments-2016/

#1 girls lacrosse = 54
#2 boys lacrosse = 36

* zero for football


not so sure this is accurate. Chaminade cant just have 2 and Syosset 10.


This Newsday list is self reported. It's not official.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 08:45 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haven't been on this board in weeks and holy sh*t, we are still talking about Sayville?? Geez.


We were looking forward to our son playing for coach Doller, now because of some hurt feelings or bruised egos that will not happen. BOE should not allow ego or emotion to enter decision making process. Can anyone really declare the best guy for the job will be coaching our team this year? Glad someone stepped in but the JV coach is absolutely not an upgrade to coach Doller. So then why make the change? I will ask at the next BOE meeting and its not a "personnel" query.


Good lord, let it go. No one has said anything in his defense at a board meeting yet. You're definitely not going to start now, after all is said and done. The board had numerous reasons for their decision. The program will be just fine. It's about the kids, not the coach (at least it has been in Sayville, historically).


The BOE had numerous reasons to replace the long time successful coach with a JV flunky? Are you serious? Where outside of inbred Sayville BOE is that an acceptable rationale decision?


Yes, they had multiple reasons. I think that has been clearly established. You keep saying the same thing over and over but you are not equipped with the actual facts. You just keep repeating what has been told to you by lackies. It had virtually nothing to do with the events last spring about the asst coach and the fact that you base your argument on that shows how truly uninformed and disconnected you are. As the old saying goes, the loudest voice is often not the correct one.


What were the reasons? Educate me, please.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 10:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Newsday website has a listing of 2016 Divison one commitments by sport:
see link: http://sports.newsday.com/long-island/data/high-school/college-commitments-2016/

#1 girls lacrosse = 54
#2 boys lacrosse = 36

* zero for football


not so sure this is accurate. Chaminade cant just have 2 and Syosset 10.


I looked litle deeper and there is area for self reporting, so I guess take this data with a grain of salt, as I'm sure there are many missing kids and schools from this list.
the list includes D1 and D2
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 10:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Haven't been on this board in weeks and holy sh*t, we are still talking about Sayville?? Geez.


We were looking forward to our son playing for coach Doller, now because of some hurt feelings or bruised egos that will not happen. BOE should not allow ego or emotion to enter decision making process. Can anyone really declare the best guy for the job will be coaching our team this year? Glad someone stepped in but the JV coach is absolutely not an upgrade to coach Doller. So then why make the change? I will ask at the next BOE meeting and its not a "personnel" query.


Good lord, let it go. No one has said anything in his defense at a board meeting yet. You're definitely not going to start now, after all is said and done. The board had numerous reasons for their decision. The program will be just fine. It's about the kids, not the coach (at least it has been in Sayville, historically).


The BOE had numerous reasons to replace the long time successful coach with a JV flunky? Are you serious? Where outside of inbred Sayville BOE is that an acceptable rationale decision?


Yes, they had multiple reasons. I think that has been clearly established. You keep saying the same thing over and over but you are not equipped with the actual facts. You just keep repeating what has been told to you by lackies. It had virtually nothing to do with the events last spring about the asst coach and the fact that you base your argument on that shows how truly uninformed and disconnected you are. As the old saying goes, the loudest voice is often not the correct one.


What were the reasons? Educate me, please.


There were a litany of reasons posted earlier on in this thread. Look it up. Then let it go.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/08/15 10:38 PM
As the old saying goes, the loudest voice is often not the correct one.

You have been the loudest detractor the whole time. We have been consistent.
99.9 % of the sayville and LI lax community are great supporters of Coach D. The entire LI lax community is baffled by the BOE in sayville. While no longer involved as a parent, I am and will always be a supporter of Coach D. When you see a coach for over 15 years giving the time he did for hundreds of kids, always on the fields for all the kids from 5 year olds to former now college players, dropping apparel off at homes the day before xmas so kids are happy the next day, he made time for everyone and was the most approachable guy for any reason, your extremely upset with a district. You can hide behind "they had many reasons" I have people on the inside, I know what went on. The BOE should have been bigger about it and worked it out. The lowest levels in our company work out differences and problems. The district is now an embarrassment
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/09/15 01:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As the old saying goes, the loudest voice is often not the correct one.

You have been the loudest detractor the whole time. We have been consistent.
99.9 % of the sayville and LI lax community are great supporters of Coach D. The entire LI lax community is baffled by the BOE in sayville. While no longer involved as a parent, I am and will always be a supporter of Coach D. When you see a coach for over 15 years giving the time he did for hundreds of kids, always on the fields for all the kids from 5 year olds to former now college players, dropping apparel off at homes the day before xmas so kids are happy the next day, he made time for everyone and was the most approachable guy for any reason, your extremely upset with a district. You can hide behind "they had many reasons" I have people on the inside, I know what went on. The BOE should have been bigger about it and worked it out. The lowest levels in our company work out differences and problems. The district is now an embarrassment


Did you or your husband go to any BOE meetings? No. Conversation over. And, for the record, you have no one inside. That much is obvious.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/09/15 03:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As the old saying goes, the loudest voice is often not the correct one.

You have been the loudest detractor the whole time. We have been consistent.
99.9 % of the sayville and LI lax community are great supporters of Coach D. The entire LI lax community is baffled by the BOE in sayville. While no longer involved as a parent, I am and will always be a supporter of Coach D. When you see a coach for over 15 years giving the time he did for hundreds of kids, always on the fields for all the kids from 5 year olds to former now college players, dropping apparel off at homes the day before xmas so kids are happy the next day, he made time for everyone and was the most approachable guy for any reason, your extremely upset with a district. You can hide behind "they had many reasons" I have people on the inside, I know what went on. The BOE should have been bigger about it and worked it out. The lowest levels in our company work out differences and problems. The district is now an embarrassment

So true!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/09/15 04:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As the old saying goes, the loudest voice is often not the correct one.

You have been the loudest detractor the whole time. We have been consistent.
99.9 % of the sayville and LI lax community are great supporters of Coach D. The entire LI lax community is baffled by the BOE in sayville. While no longer involved as a parent, I am and will always be a supporter of Coach D. When you see a coach for over 15 years giving the time he did for hundreds of kids, always on the fields for all the kids from 5 year olds to former now college players, dropping apparel off at homes the day before xmas so kids are happy the next day, he made time for everyone and was the most approachable guy for any reason, your extremely upset with a district. You can hide behind "they had many reasons" I have people on the inside, I know what went on. The BOE should have been bigger about it and worked it out. The lowest levels in our company work out differences and problems. The district is now an embarrassment


Amen. Unfortunately the kids will suffer and the weasels who supported this will remain in hiding.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/09/15 07:38 PM
Oh get over it already!!!! Dollar bill is gone and there is nothing you can do about it. Move on. Sayville has great athletes which has been proven for years with Dollar bills sub par coaching. The program will continue to do well and will prob do better now that there is a coach who knows the game. STOP YOUR WHINING!!!!
Posted By: B_O_T_C Re: High School Lax - 12/09/15 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh get over it already!!!! Dollar bill is gone and there is nothing you can do about it. Move on. Sayville has great athletes which has been proven for years with Dollar bills sub par coaching. The program will continue to do well and will prob do better now that there is a coach who knows the game. STOP YOUR WHINING!!!!


I have to wonder what makes you so bitter.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/09/15 08:45 PM
Wow this guy is scorned! Look we went through the same deal over here at SWR. There is no merit to calling the past Sayvile coach "sub par". Sayville has been our biggest rival the past 10 years. Sayville has good athletes but it's what the coach does with those athletes and what schemes the coach runs. Sayville has always been well coached and they always do very well come playoffs. We have always had nothing but respect for the Sayville coach. Sounds like this guy got what he wanted and it sounds like a new coach is in place. Let's just hope they are more successful than our first replacement. Big mistake by sayville boe. I have a feeling Sayville will take some lumps this year.Even if you think you brought in the best coach in the world, the adjustment is difficult
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/09/15 08:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh get over it already!!!! Dollar bill is gone and there is nothing you can do about it. Move on. Sayville has great athletes which has been proven for years with Dollar bills sub par coaching. The program will continue to do well and will prob do better now that there is a coach who knows the game. STOP YOUR WHINING!!!!


I would love to see this guy say this to Coach Doller. Wold NOT be pretty. Ha
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/09/15 09:10 PM
Let's see. He is absolutely in love with sayville and feels his son is a great athlete. Sounds like the entire town. The district screwed up. They had a nice lacrosse program "Had"
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/09/15 10:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh get over it already!!!! Dollar bill is gone and there is nothing you can do about it. Move on. Sayville has great athletes which has been proven for years with Dollar bills sub par coaching. The program will continue to do well and will prob do better now that there is a coach who knows the game. STOP YOUR WHINING!!!!


Sir, Coach Doller had a big impact on our team last year. We beat Harborfields and SWR because of the coaching moves made by Doller. We were the same team but we had a different plan, and we won. I played for Coach and am now a Freshman playing at the next level. You are really wrong about Coach and I wish people like you knew what he did for us. Why are you so mad and happy that he is gone?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/10/15 02:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh get over it already!!!! Dollar bill is gone and there is nothing you can do about it. Move on. Sayville has great athletes which has been proven for years with Dollar bills sub par coaching. The program will continue to do well and will prob do better now that there is a coach who knows the game. STOP YOUR WHINING!!!!


Sir, Coach Doller had a big impact on our team last year. We beat Harborfields and SWR because of the coaching moves made by Doller. We were the same team but we had a different plan, and we won. I played for Coach and am now a Freshman playing at the next level. You are really wrong about Coach and I wish people like you knew what he did for us. Why are you so mad and happy that he is gone?


From the mouths of babes. The venom being spewed is a very sad commentary on a community that loves sports but can be manipulated by a very small minority. Thanks for your dedication Mr. Dollar, you will be missed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/10/15 06:04 PM
Now to a topic that actually matters... do you think Ward Melville can avoid the slip-ups it had last year and contend this season? Or will Smithtown East get in their way?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/10/15 10:53 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now to a topic that actually matters... do you think Ward Melville can avoid the slip-ups it had last year and contend this season? Or will Smithtown East get in their way?


What slip ups? get in their way? what are you talking about?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 12:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now to a topic that actually matters... do you think Ward Melville can avoid the slip-ups it had last year and contend this season? Or will Smithtown East get in their way?


What slip ups? get in their way? what are you talking about?


Will be some great lax between these two big powerhouses. Looking forward to it!! Will be the best of the best of what LI has to offer!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 01:08 AM
Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh get over it already!!!! Dollar bill is gone and there is nothing you can do about it. Move on. Sayville has great athletes which has been proven for years with Dollar bills sub par coaching. The program will continue to do well and will prob do better now that there is a coach who knows the game. STOP YOUR WHINING!!!!


I have to wonder what makes you so bitter.


I'm in a neighboring town and still wondering why the guy was let go. Can anyone sum it up quickly?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 01:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now to a topic that actually matters... do you think Ward Melville can avoid the slip-ups it had last year and contend this season? Or will Smithtown East get in their way?


Who cares?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 02:14 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now to a topic that actually matters... do you think Ward Melville can avoid the slip-ups it had last year and contend this season? Or will Smithtown East get in their way?


Who cares?


Pretty much everyone who follows HS lax. What are you doing on HS lax forum if you don't care??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 04:21 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now to a topic that actually matters... do you think Ward Melville can avoid the slip-ups it had last year and contend this season? Or will Smithtown East get in their way?


Who cares?


These are legit lax programs that are being asked about. Most would consider them top 5 on the island, top 20 in the nation. The Sayville thing is done. It's over. There are relevant towns to discuss now.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 01:41 PM
Slip ups? WM played & lost to 2 very good teams during the season, Connt. & Nport. I wouldnt call them slip ups, both Connt. & Nport had better days, thats all. All 3 were pretty equal teams IMHO. Wm played really well through the playoffs & got to Cty final....& a great final it was! gthe 2 best teams in suffolk going toe to toe, cant ask for more than that. WM
graduates 2 all americans, will need to play a differnt style but will be a contender. Good luck to all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Now to a topic that actually matters... do you think Ward Melville can avoid the slip-ups it had last year and contend this season? Or will Smithtown East get in their way?


Who cares?


These are legit lax programs that are being asked about. Most would consider them top 5 on the island, top 20 in the nation. The Sayville thing is done. It's over. There are relevant towns to discuss now.


You're crazy if you think WM is top 20 in the country! Not this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 02:32 PM
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 02:59 PM
WI NO WAY
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 03:41 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Newsday website has a listing of 2016 Divison one commitments by sport:
see link: http://sports.newsday.com/long-island/data/high-school/college-commitments-2016/

#1 girls lacrosse = 54
#2 boys lacrosse = 36

* zero for football


not so sure this is accurate. Chaminade cant just have 2 and Syosset 10.


Its not accurate
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


I was a big supporters of theirs last year and I think they will be a good team but not have the run they did last year. Gone are the warm up games of Patmed, Floyd, Brentwood and LWood. Did you see their schedule. I think the other schools have better kids coming up the pipe top help their studs.

It was a great season last year no need to put the pressure on them to surpass it, I don't think they can. Id be happy with 6 maybe 7 wins.


Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 05:13 PM
Look at the schedules - I think Hills West and Smith West have the easiest go of it. Will Hills east and west play each other this year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 05:27 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Newsday website has a listing of 2016 Divison one commitments by sport:
see link: http://sports.newsday.com/long-island/data/high-school/college-commitments-2016/

#1 girls lacrosse = 54
#2 boys lacrosse = 36

* zero for football


not so sure this is accurate. Chaminade cant just have 2 and Syosset 10.


(And those two from Chaminade are baseball recruits.)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 05:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


No disrespect intended. Forgot to mention Connetquot. You are in the mix with the others trying to knock off Smithtown East. Actually, With the exception of West Islip and Smithtown West you have produced some of the best players in the country in recent years. Good luck this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 06:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


I was a big supporters of theirs last year and I think they will be a good team but not have the run they did last year. Gone are the warm up games of Patmed, Floyd, Brentwood and LWood. Did you see their schedule. I think the other schools have better kids coming up the pipe top help their studs.

It was a great season last year no need to put the pressure on them to surpass it, I don't think they can. Id be happy with 6 maybe 7 wins.




I agree with everything you said but I'm surprised that they get overlooked that's all. Even last year they didn't get much respect. Oh well, whatever.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


No disrespect intended. Forgot to mention Connetquot. You are in the mix with the others trying to knock off Smithtown East. Actually, With the exception of West Islip and Smithtown West you have produced some of the best players in the country in recent years. Good luck this year.


No problem, thanks, and good luck to you too this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh get over it already!!!! Dollar bill is gone and there is nothing you can do about it. Move on. Sayville has great athletes which has been proven for years with Dollar bills sub par coaching. The program will continue to do well and will prob do better now that there is a coach who knows the game. STOP YOUR WHINING!!!!


Sir, Coach Doller had a big impact on our team last year. We beat Harborfields and SWR because of the coaching moves made by Doller. We were the same team but we had a different plan, and we won. I played for Coach and am now a Freshman playing at the next level. You are really wrong about Coach and I wish people like you knew what he did for us. Why are you so mad and happy that he is gone?


What "coaching moves" did CD make that had such a big impact?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/11/15 09:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Oh get over it already!!!! Dollar bill is gone and there is nothing you can do about it. Move on. Sayville has great athletes which has been proven for years with Dollar bills sub par coaching. The program will continue to do well and will prob do better now that there is a coach who knows the game. STOP YOUR WHINING!!!!


Sir, Coach Doller had a big impact on our team last year. We beat Harborfields and SWR because of the coaching moves made by Doller. We were the same team but we had a different plan, and we won. I played for Coach and am now a Freshman playing at the next level. You are really wrong about Coach and I wish people like you knew what he did for us. Why are you so mad and happy that he is gone?


What "coaching moves" did CD make that had such a big impact?


The ones SWR's coach couldn't counter!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/12/15 01:37 AM
Does Sachem Notth have a new Coach heard Jay Mauro is gone ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/12/15 01:51 AM
How is Nassau looking? Seems as Syosset will be top dog. How are Set and GC looking?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/12/15 04:30 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


No disrespect intended. Forgot to mention Connetquot. You are in the mix with the others trying to knock off Smithtown East. Actually, With the exception of West Islip and Smithtown West you have produced some of the best players in the country in recent years. Good luck this year.


Sorry, I should have said, "in addition to" West Islip and Smithtown West , Connetquat has produced some of the best college players in the country.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/12/15 04:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


Conn. had a great season last year, no doubt; but, replicating great seasons are difficult to do in town that don't foster a lax culture. Most of the towns that are discussed have serious offseason programs and great coaching. IMO, Conn has neither. Their success is a product of a handful of very good players coached by their travel teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/12/15 05:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


Conn. had a great season last year, no doubt; but, replicating great seasons are difficult to do in town that don't foster a lax culture. Most of the towns that are discussed have serious offseason programs and great coaching. IMO, Conn has neither. Their success is a product of a handful of very good players coached by their travel teams.


will they still have their fogo?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/12/15 10:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


Conn. had a great season last year, no doubt; but, replicating great seasons are difficult to do in town that don't foster a lax culture. Most of the towns that are discussed have serious offseason programs and great coaching. IMO, Conn has neither. Their success is a product of a handful of very good players coached by their travel teams.


will they still have their fogo?


Yes, and they will have the majority of their starters from last year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/13/15 12:28 AM
Watch their attack, can not cover all
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/13/15 05:25 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


Conn. had a great season last year, no doubt; but, replicating great seasons are difficult to do in town that don't foster a lax culture. Most of the towns that are discussed have serious offseason programs and great coaching. IMO, Conn has neither. Their success is a product of a handful of very good players coached by their travel teams.



Are you a moron ? Lax culture? "serious offseason programs" wth are you talking about? great coaching? Are you serious? There is only one team in this league that has Leadership and great coaching. It Ain't your town.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/13/15 03:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


Conn. had a great season last year, no doubt; but, replicating great seasons are difficult to do in town that don't foster a lax culture. Most of the towns that are discussed have serious offseason programs and great coaching. IMO, Conn has neither. Their success is a product of a handful of very good players coached by their travel teams.



Are you a moron ? Lax culture? "serious offseason programs" wth are you talking about? great coaching? Are you serious? There is only one team in this league that has Leadership and great coaching. It Ain't your town.


You don't even know what town that guy is from so wth are you talking about?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/13/15 03:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


Conn. had a great season last year, no doubt; but, replicating great seasons are difficult to do in town that don't foster a lax culture. Most of the towns that are discussed have serious offseason programs and great coaching. IMO, Conn has neither. Their success is a product of a handful of very good players coached by their travel teams.



Are you a moron ? Lax culture? "serious offseason programs" wth are you talking about? great coaching? Are you serious? There is only one team in this league that has Leadership and great coaching. It Ain't your town.


Have another drink!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/13/15 03:15 PM
Smithtown East Vs West Islip in the County Finals.

Smithtown East by 5

Threepeat.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/14/15 01:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


Conn. had a great season last year, no doubt; but, replicating great seasons are difficult to do in town that don't foster a lax culture. Most of the towns that are discussed have serious offseason programs and great coaching. IMO, Conn has neither. Their success is a product of a handful of very good players coached by their travel teams.



Are you a moron ? Lax culture? "serious offseason programs" wth are you talking about? great coaching? Are you serious? There is only one team in this league that has Leadership and great coaching. It Ain't your town.


You don't even know what town that guy is from so wth are you talking about?


Seriously, not many great coaches that aren't young or past their prime. tell me you town. I am amazed how my town has amazing talent but never attends the schools.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/14/15 02:52 PM
What towns have great coaches and serious off season programs? Come on man...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/14/15 03:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What towns have great coaches and serious off season programs? Come on man...

IMHO, there are more good coaches than bad. Regardless of the coaching, you need good players to win. As far as offseason stuff, I would say at least half are working in the offseason, not sure I would call them "offseason Programs", like a college does. But open gym, winter leagues, and fall tournaments are common.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/14/15 04:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What towns have great coaches and serious off season programs? Come on man...

IMHO, there are more good coaches than bad. Regardless of the coaching, you need good players to win. As far as offseason stuff, I would say at least half are working in the offseason, not sure I would call them "offseason Programs", like a college does. But open gym, winter leagues, and fall tournaments are common.


That's almost the textbook definition of an off-season program. Having recently graduated college (where I played for 4 years) I think that the coaching doesn't really come into play at the HS level, with the exception of the topo teir programs that do the above. For the most part, HS coaches put their best players at the positions that give their team the best chance to win. They are teachers in the districs who happen to have played lax (most of the time). Travel coaches coach most of these boys for 10 months a year for years on end. I think if you look at Smithtown for example, they have those boys exclusively for the 10 months and those boys know that system inside and out. If you look at a team like Connetquot, they have some really great players that carry that team. I don't think the coach needs to do any more than put them in the right spot and feed them the rock. He did that last year and they were successful; however, last year was the exception, not the norm. His track record shows that. I only use those towns because they have been discussed earlier. The coach didn't make those players, he got them like that. Smithtown, WM, WI, Mannhasset, etc... those clubs make and develop their boys from day 1. I think that's the difference.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/14/15 04:39 PM
Off season programs are usually organized and run by seniors or captains, not coaches.

If the captains are engaged and committed, you will see very good off season programs. I know my son has been running three days a week and practicing a few days.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/14/15 05:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smithtown East Vs West Islip in the County Finals.

Smithtown East by 5

Threepeat.


then they lose again to Nassau threedefeatpeat
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/14/15 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What towns have great coaches and serious off season programs? Come on man...

IMHO, there are more good coaches than bad. Regardless of the coaching, you need good players to win. As far as offseason stuff, I would say at least half are working in the offseason, not sure I would call them "offseason Programs", like a college does. But open gym, winter leagues, and fall tournaments are common.


That's almost the textbook definition of an off-season program. Having recently graduated college (where I played for 4 years) I think that the coaching doesn't really come into play at the HS level, with the exception of the topo teir programs that do the above. For the most part, HS coaches put their best players at the positions that give their team the best chance to win. They are teachers in the districs who happen to have played lax (most of the time). Travel coaches coach most of these boys for 10 months a year for years on end. I think if you look at Smithtown for example, they have those boys exclusively for the 10 months and those boys know that system inside and out. If you look at a team like Connetquot, they have some really great players that carry that team. I don't think the coach needs to do any more than put them in the right spot and feed them the rock. He did that last year and they were successful; however, last year was the exception, not the norm. His track record shows that. I only use those towns because they have been discussed earlier. The coach didn't make those players, he got them like that. Smithtown, WM, WI, Mannhasset, etc... those clubs make and develop their boys from day 1. I think that's the difference.


Just about all of the Smithtown East kids play competitive club lacrosse. Pretty sure most of the Manhasset kids play club. From what I have seen many of the WI kids play club up until HS. WM has always been a mix of some playing club some not. Also, I think the coaches at the school that you mentioned also get a good crop of players handed to them every year. Whether they develop in the youth league or on the club circuit or a combination of both. The HS coaches at the most successful programs are very fortunate that they have so many boys who are dedicated to lacrosse from an early age.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/15/15 02:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smithtown East Vs West Islip in the County Finals.

Smithtown East by 5

Threepeat.


then they lose again to Nassau threedefeatpeat


Maybe but I don't think so this year but you never know.

What we do know is that that there is a lack of competition in both leagues.
Nassau is a little better than Suffolk.

Over the past 10 years it has for the most part been the same teams winning the county championships.

Nassau - Syosset 4, Massapequa 3, Farmingdale 2 Hicksville 1

Suffolk - West Islip 7, Smithtown East 2, Wardmelvile 1

Final four teams - Smithtown East, West Islip, Syosset, Massapequa

Good bet it will be Smithtown East Vs Syosset

Flip a coin.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/16/15 03:56 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How is Nassau looking? Seems as Syosset will be top dog. How are Set and GC looking?


And Syosset steals the Pequa D coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/16/15 12:46 PM
Keep him
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/16/15 11:13 PM
He is a traitor grew up in pequa, played for pequa and teaches in pequa.
Goes to Syosset- what a joke- an always preaching about being a team player.
He is a joke
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/17/15 01:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is a traitor grew up in pequa, played for pequa and teaches in pequa.
Goes to Syosset- what a joke- an always preaching about being a team player.
He is a joke


What was the reason for the move?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/17/15 01:37 PM
...Movin on up...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/17/15 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is a traitor grew up in pequa, played for pequa and teaches in pequa.
Goes to Syosset- what a joke- an always preaching about being a team player.
He is a joke


You can't be serious. If he was joke, you wouldn't be so upset. Why do you care so much about where he decides to do whatever he wants to do?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/17/15 03:01 PM
traitor? what are you 13 yrs old?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/17/15 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is a traitor grew up in pequa, played for pequa and teaches in pequa.
Goes to Syosset- what a joke- an always preaching about being a team player.
He is a joke


What was the reason for the move?


Another great program as he builds his resume like everyone else!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/17/15 04:04 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is a traitor grew up in pequa, played for pequa and teaches in pequa.
Goes to Syosset- what a joke- an always preaching about being a team player.
He is a joke

It's an interesting move. I'm sure there is more to it than we know.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/17/15 05:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is a traitor grew up in pequa, played for pequa and teaches in pequa.
Goes to Syosset- what a joke- an always preaching about being a team player.
He is a joke


If this is the guy I am thinking of he started coaching in Syosset over a decade ago before going to Massapequa

Syosset is becoming a breeding ground for coaches - Kings Point HC, Duke Asst. , HHHW HC,
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/17/15 06:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is a traitor grew up in pequa, played for pequa and teaches in pequa.
Goes to Syosset- what a joke- an always preaching about being a team player.
He is a joke


If this is the guy I am thinking of he started coaching in Syosset over a decade ago before going to Massapequa

Syosset is becoming a breeding ground for coaches - Kings Point HC, Duke Asst. , HHHW HC,


Maybe he didn't get enough credit, coaching for a guy that never played the game and is getting more money to boot. No brainer.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/17/15 08:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is a traitor grew up in pequa, played for pequa and teaches in pequa.
Goes to Syosset- what a joke- an always preaching about being a team player.
He is a joke


If this is the guy I am thinking of he started coaching in Syosset over a decade ago before going to Massapequa

Syosset is becoming a breeding ground for coaches - Kings Point HC, Duke Asst. , HHHW HC,


Maybe he didn't get enough credit, coaching for a guy that never played the game and is getting more money to boot. No brainer.


Sooooo, if you never played the game that means you are/will not be a good/great coach. Well....that's the stupidest thing I have read on this site so far !!!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/17/15 11:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is a traitor grew up in pequa, played for pequa and teaches in pequa.
Goes to Syosset- what a joke- an always preaching about being a team player.
He is a joke


If this is the guy I am thinking of he started coaching in Syosset over a decade ago before going to Massapequa

Syosset is becoming a breeding ground for coaches - Kings Point HC, Duke Asst. , HHHW HC,


Maybe he didn't get enough credit, coaching for a guy that never played the game and is getting more money to boot. No brainer.


Sooooo, if you never played the game that means you are/will not be a good/great coach. Well....that's the stupidest thing I have read on this site so far !!!!!!


Joe Spallina was not know for his lacrosee playing skills. But he sure can coach!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/18/15 01:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is a traitor grew up in pequa, played for pequa and teaches in pequa.
Goes to Syosset- what a joke- an always preaching about being a team player.
He is a joke


If this is the guy I am thinking of he started coaching in Syosset over a decade ago before going to Massapequa

Syosset is becoming a breeding ground for coaches - Kings Point HC, Duke Asst. , HHHW HC,


Maybe he didn't get enough credit, coaching for a guy that never played the game and is getting more money to boot. No brainer.


Sooooo, if you never played the game that means you are/will not be a good/great coach. Well....that's the stupidest thing I have read on this site so far !!!!!!


Joe Spallina was not know for his lacrosee playing skills. But he sure can coach!


He wasn't a terrible player, just didn't have the size and now he teaches the speed game that would have fit him when he was young. Let's see how that transition goes when the crush boys get to HS and College.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/18/15 02:02 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


Conn. had a great season last year, no doubt; but, replicating great seasons are difficult to do in town that don't foster a lax culture. Most of the towns that are discussed have serious offseason programs and great coaching. IMO, Conn has neither. Their success is a product of a handful of very good players coached by their travel teams.



Are you a moron ? Lax culture? "serious offseason programs" wth are you talking about? great coaching? Are you serious? There is only one team in this league that has Leadership and great coaching. It Ain't your town.


You don't even know what town that guy is from so wth are you talking about?


Yes I do. I also know wth I am taking about. Now go tell that guy to go and get his shine box.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/18/15 03:00 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As usual, this is a 3 maybe 4 team league. This could be another weak field like 2013 with only 1 or 2 strong teams. Smithtown East is the clear favorite but someone could surprise them. Not sure who will step up. Northport? Do they have another fogo? Melville? I think they lost a lot more than the 2 mentioned. SW? I don't think so. WI? Is this the year they make it back to the county finals? Sachem North? do they have the depth?

Odds are Smithtown East makes it 3 in a row. With the exception of West Islip do any of the other teams have good coaching? Without a bunch of studs I think Craig and the WI staff are the only ones who might have a chance.


Amazed by the lack of respect for Connetquot, even after last year.


Conn. had a great season last year, no doubt; but, replicating great seasons are difficult to do in town that don't foster a lax culture. Most of the towns that are discussed have serious offseason programs and great coaching. IMO, Conn has neither. Their success is a product of a handful of very good players coached by their travel teams.



Are you a moron ? Lax culture? "serious offseason programs" wth are you talking about? great coaching? Are you serious? There is only one team in this league that has Leadership and great coaching. It Ain't your town.


You don't even know what town that guy is from so wth are you talking about?


Yes I do. I also know wth I am taking about. Now go tell that guy to go and get his shine box.


You're the only one who knows wth you're talking about, and you don't know what town that guy is from...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/18/15 12:46 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
He is a traitor grew up in pequa, played for pequa and teaches in pequa.
Goes to Syosset- what a joke- an always preaching about being a team player.
He is a joke


If this is the guy I am thinking of he started coaching in Syosset over a decade ago before going to Massapequa

Syosset is becoming a breeding ground for coaches - Kings Point HC, Duke Asst. , HHHW HC,


Maybe he didn't get enough credit, coaching for a guy that never played the game and is getting more money to boot. No brainer.


Sooooo, if you never played the game that means you are/will not be a good/great coach. Well....that's the stupidest thing I have read on this site so far !!!!!!


Do you have ADHD? Didn't say you had to have played the game to be a great coach. Stating possible reasons that his assistant left his program. Oh and btw. I don't think he is a great coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/18/15 01:09 PM
Who will Suffolk send to the Long Island Championship? Smithtown East, West Islip, Northport or Connetquot ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/18/15 01:10 PM
Another super productive thread. Entertaining, but inane bickering at its best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/18/15 02:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who will Suffolk send to the Long Island Championship? Smithtown East, West Islip, Northport or Connetquot ?



boys or girls
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/18/15 03:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who will Suffolk send to the Long Island Championship? Smithtown East, West Islip, Northport or Connetquot ?


Easy money is on SE but you never know. Anyone know anything about the B or C boys divisions?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/18/15 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who will Suffolk send to the Long Island Championship? Smithtown East, West Islip, Northport or Connetquot ?



boys or girls


Boys.

I think Girls would be WI, MC, NP & SE
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/18/15 04:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who will Suffolk send to the Long Island Championship? Smithtown East, West Islip, Northport or Connetquot ?



boys or girls


Boys.

I think Girls would be WI, MC, NP & SE


SE = Smithtown East
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/18/15 11:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who will Suffolk send to the Long Island Championship? Smithtown East, West Islip, Northport or Connetquot ?



boys or girls


Boys.

I think Girls would be WI, MC, NP & SE


SE = Smithtown East


Girls I would watch for WM coming up this year. Could be the surprise underdog.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/19/15 12:35 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Who will Suffolk send to the Long Island Championship? Smithtown East, West Islip, Northport or Connetquot ?



boys or girls


Boys.

I think Girls would be WI, MC, NP & SE


SE = Smithtown East


Girls I would watch for WM coming up this year. Could be the surprise underdog.


Smithtown West will be in the mix as well
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/19/15 02:42 PM
Is it passible that Smithtown East could win both the boys and girls county championship? I do not know enough about who the competition is on the girls side.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/19/15 11:37 PM
MC GIRLS WILL BE STRONG
WI WILL BE IN MIX
WARDMELVILLE UNDERRATTED
NORTHPORT IS NOT GONNA BE GOOD ENOUGH
SMITH EAST AND WEST ARE GOING TO BE GOOD

PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS !!!!!!
SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON HERE HAVE NOT A CLUE
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/20/15 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC GIRLS WILL BE STRONG
WI WILL BE IN MIX
WARDMELVILLE UNDERRATTED
NORTHPORT IS NOT GONNA BE GOOD ENOUGH
SMITH EAST AND WEST ARE GOING TO BE GOOD

PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS !!!!!!
SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON HERE HAVE NOT A CLUE


What about Class B? Sayville and SWR should be battling for the crown again in Suffolk. Is Harborfields for real?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/20/15 10:27 PM
Rocky Point will be questing for the crown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC GIRLS WILL BE STRONG
WI WILL BE IN MIX
WARDMELVILLE UNDERRATTED
NORTHPORT IS NOT GONNA BE GOOD ENOUGH
SMITH EAST AND WEST ARE GOING TO BE GOOD

PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS !!!!!!
SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON HERE HAVE NOT A CLUE


What about Class B? Sayville and SWR should be battling for the crown again in Suffolk. Is Harborfields for real?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/21/15 01:14 AM
Is it true that Nassau girls will go to 2 divisions like Suffolk?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/21/15 01:41 PM
Along with the poison which comes with the package.


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rocky Point will be questing for the crown.

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
MC GIRLS WILL BE STRONG
WI WILL BE IN MIX
WARDMELVILLE UNDERRATTED
NORTHPORT IS NOT GONNA BE GOOD ENOUGH
SMITH EAST AND WEST ARE GOING TO BE GOOD

PLEASE SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS !!!!!!
SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON HERE HAVE NOT A CLUE


What about Class B? Sayville and SWR should be battling for the crown again in Suffolk. Is Harborfields for real?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/22/15 01:43 AM
wardmelville girls
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/22/15 02:19 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smithtown East Vs West Islip in the County Finals.

Smithtown East by 5

Threepeat.


All that matters is the State hardware. Nobody cares if it ends at the county. Last years' expectations were off the charts and it finished as a huge disappointment despite taking the county.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/22/15 02:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smithtown East Vs West Islip in the County Finals.

Smithtown East by 5

Threepeat.


All that matters is the State hardware. Nobody cares if it ends at the county. Last years' expectations were off the charts and it finished as a huge disappointment despite taking the county.


Looking forward not back. I don't think expectations were too high, thought by many to win the county (and won). Not many people thought they would beat Nassau (Syosset or Massapequa). Smithtown East returns some talent and they might just win the county championship again. Massapequa and Syosset are not as strong as last year so Suffolk Champ will have a better chance of getting off the Island.

Smithtown East is the favorite again. I'm not sure who will challenge. As you implied in your post, winning the County Championship is not much of an accomplishment. It's a weak league without a lot of competition and nobody cares who wins it. Only two or three teams have a shot (maybe 4). If I had to guess I would say:

1. Smithtown East
2. West Islip
3. Northport
4. Connetquot
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/22/15 04:20 PM
For those who have never coached or played a high school sport, I would like to clarify the statement "nobody cares if it ends at the county"... as a former all county player and coach of a county championship team- let me add not in lacrosse...Winning county titles is not something to look past or minimize...that is a huge accomplishment...especially in Suffolk Boys lacrosse...probably one of the top counties in the state even north east region given the national rankings many of the teams have had in recent past. So winning a county title is a huge accomplishment. Unfortunately, in the State competition Suffolk and Nassau are required to play each other before getting off the Island to complete the State Championship run. So realistically that is the State final game as evidence by all of the Sate Championship teams from Long Island. Being a two time county champ is incredible. Also remember that team did so with many underclassman on the field. The first title saw 3 freshman with significant contributions...the second saw a team with freshman and sophomore contributions...This year the team will be looking at the junior class to carry the burden...but who doesn't like the prospects when you have kids with 2 county championships already under their belt...I'd take that experience any day as a coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/22/15 04:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those who have never coached or played a high school sport, I would like to clarify the statement "nobody cares if it ends at the county"... as a former all county player and coach of a county championship team- let me add not in lacrosse...Winning county titles is not something to look past or minimize...that is a huge accomplishment...especially in Suffolk Boys lacrosse...probably one of the top counties in the state even north east region given the national rankings many of the teams have had in recent past. So winning a county title is a huge accomplishment. Unfortunately, in the State competition Suffolk and Nassau are required to play each other before getting off the Island to complete the State Championship run. So realistically that is the State final game as evidence by all of the Sate Championship teams from Long Island. Being a two time county champ is incredible. Also remember that team did so with many underclassman on the field. The first title saw 3 freshman with significant contributions...the second saw a team with freshman and sophomore contributions...This year the team will be looking at the junior class to carry the burden...but who doesn't like the prospects when you have kids with 2 county championships already under their belt...I'd take that experience any day as a coach.


I very much agree with this post. There Are 49 teams in Suffolk lax, I don't have the entire history of lax in front of me but it looks to be about 30+ teams that have never won a county title. So, as far as, 2 in a row, the list is very short. It is something to be very proud of.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/22/15 05:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those who have never coached or played a high school sport, I would like to clarify the statement "nobody cares if it ends at the county"... as a former all county player and coach of a county championship team- let me add not in lacrosse...Winning county titles is not something to look past or minimize...that is a huge accomplishment...especially in Suffolk Boys lacrosse...probably one of the top counties in the state even north east region given the national rankings many of the teams have had in recent past. So winning a county title is a huge accomplishment. Unfortunately, in the State competition Suffolk and Nassau are required to play each other before getting off the Island to complete the State Championship run. So realistically that is the State final game as evidence by all of the Sate Championship teams from Long Island. Being a two time county champ is incredible. Also remember that team did so with many underclassman on the field. The first title saw 3 freshman with significant contributions...the second saw a team with freshman and sophomore contributions...This year the team will be looking at the junior class to carry the burden...but who doesn't like the prospects when you have kids with 2 county championships already under their belt...I'd take that experience any day as a coach.


I very much agree with this post. There Are 49 teams in Suffolk lax, I don't have the entire history of lax in front of me but it looks to be about 30+ teams that have never won a county title. So, as far as, 2 in a row, the list is very short. It is something to be very proud of.


On any given year there are two strong teams in the league. Some years there are three or four teams with a legit chance at winning the championship. There are some good teams but competition beyond the top few is weak.

I actually do believe that winning the County Championship is a big deal because most years you have to beat at least one or two strong teams in the playoffs. I just do not believe that most regular season game are competitive. Would much rather see a smaller conference and allow more non league games.
It will never happen so we will do what we can with what we have.

Who has a legit shot at beating Smithown East?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/22/15 10:43 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those who have never coached or played a high school sport, I would like to clarify the statement "nobody cares if it ends at the county"... as a former all county player and coach of a county championship team- let me add not in lacrosse...Winning county titles is not something to look past or minimize...that is a huge accomplishment...especially in Suffolk Boys lacrosse...probably one of the top counties in the state even north east region given the national rankings many of the teams have had in recent past. So winning a county title is a huge accomplishment. Unfortunately, in the State competition Suffolk and Nassau are required to play each other before getting off the Island to complete the State Championship run. So realistically that is the State final game as evidence by all of the Sate Championship teams from Long Island. Being a two time county champ is incredible. Also remember that team did so with many underclassman on the field. The first title saw 3 freshman with significant contributions...the second saw a team with freshman and sophomore contributions...This year the team will be looking at the junior class to carry the burden...but who doesn't like the prospects when you have kids with 2 county championships already under their belt...I'd take that experience any day as a coach.


I very much agree with this post. There Are 49 teams in Suffolk lax, I don't have the entire history of lax in front of me but it looks to be about 30+ teams that have never won a county title. So, as far as, 2 in a row, the list is very short. It is something to be very proud of.


On any given year there are two strong teams in the league. Some years there are three or four teams with a legit chance at winning the championship. There are some good teams but competition beyond the top few is weak.

I actually do believe that winning the County Championship is a big deal because most years you have to beat at least one or two strong teams in the playoffs. I just do not believe that most regular season game are competitive. Would much rather see a smaller conference and allow more non league games.
It will never happen so we will do what we can with what we have.

Who has a legit shot at beating Smithown East?



Nobody, nada, zip. Not at least until they get into the states. But they are definitely LI Champs this year. Have you seen that roster????? Unreal talent. Best, most consistent program on LI.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 12:43 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those who have never coached or played a high school sport, I would like to clarify the statement "nobody cares if it ends at the county"... as a former all county player and coach of a county championship team- let me add not in lacrosse...Winning county titles is not something to look past or minimize...that is a huge accomplishment...especially in Suffolk Boys lacrosse...probably one of the top counties in the state even north east region given the national rankings many of the teams have had in recent past. So winning a county title is a huge accomplishment. Unfortunately, in the State competition Suffolk and Nassau are required to play each other before getting off the Island to complete the State Championship run. So realistically that is the State final game as evidence by all of the Sate Championship teams from Long Island. Being a two time county champ is incredible. Also remember that team did so with many underclassman on the field. The first title saw 3 freshman with significant contributions...the second saw a team with freshman and sophomore contributions...This year the team will be looking at the junior class to carry the burden...but who doesn't like the prospects when you have kids with 2 county championships already under their belt...I'd take that experience any day as a coach.


I very much agree with this post. There Are 49 teams in Suffolk lax, I don't have the entire history of lax in front of me but it looks to be about 30+ teams that have never won a county title. So, as far as, 2 in a row, the list is very short. It is something to be very proud of.


On any given year there are two strong teams in the league. Some years there are three or four teams with a legit chance at winning the championship. There are some good teams but competition beyond the top few is weak.

I actually do believe that winning the County Championship is a big deal because most years you have to beat at least one or two strong teams in the playoffs. I just do not believe that most regular season game are competitive. Would much rather see a smaller conference and allow more non league games.
It will never happen so we will do what we can with what we have.

Who has a legit shot at beating Smithown East?



Nobody, nada, zip. Not at least until they get into the states. But they are definitely LI Champs this year. Have you seen that roster????? Unreal talent. Best, most consistent program on LI.


I think you mean the most publicized group of players thanks to the Lax Unlimited dad who had Ty S write all those neat articles about them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 01:03 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those who have never coached or played a high school sport, I would like to clarify the statement "nobody cares if it ends at the county"... as a former all county player and coach of a county championship team- let me add not in lacrosse...Winning county titles is not something to look past or minimize...that is a huge accomplishment...especially in Suffolk Boys lacrosse...probably one of the top counties in the state even north east region given the national rankings many of the teams have had in recent past. So winning a county title is a huge accomplishment. Unfortunately, in the State competition Suffolk and Nassau are required to play each other before getting off the Island to complete the State Championship run. So realistically that is the State final game as evidence by all of the Sate Championship teams from Long Island. Being a two time county champ is incredible. Also remember that team did so with many underclassman on the field. The first title saw 3 freshman with significant contributions...the second saw a team with freshman and sophomore contributions...This year the team will be looking at the junior class to carry the burden...but who doesn't like the prospects when you have kids with 2 county championships already under their belt...I'd take that experience any day as a coach.


I very much agree with this post. There Are 49 teams in Suffolk lax, I don't have the entire history of lax in front of me but it looks to be about 30+ teams that have never won a county title. So, as far as, 2 in a row, the list is very short. It is something to be very proud of.


On any given year there are two strong teams in the league. Some years there are three or four teams with a legit chance at winning the championship. There are some good teams but competition beyond the top few is weak.

I actually do believe that winning the County Championship is a big deal because most years you have to beat at least one or two strong teams in the playoffs. I just do not believe that most regular season game are competitive. Would much rather see a smaller conference and allow more non league games.
It will never happen so we will do what we can with what we have.

Who has a legit shot at beating Smithown East?


Syosset can beat them. Will be great game!!


Nobody, nada, zip. Not at least until they get into the states. But they are definitely LI Champs this year. Have you seen that roster????? Unreal talent. Best, most consistent program on LI.


I think you mean the most publicized group of players thanks to the dad who had Ty S write all those neat articles about them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 01:25 AM
As a graduate of Smithtown East and a lacrosse program alumni nothing would please me more than a state championship. That being said I think they are a very talented team. I do have reservations about the coaching staff's ability to adjust during tight games. Take last year's County final for example. SE jumped out to a pretty good lead at the half. WM adjusted and tied it up to go to overtime. WM dominated in overtime and SE goalie stood on his head. SE scored and won it. Long Island championship pretty much the same thing but Syosset was overpowering and won it pretty handily. In both games SE didn't adjust to the other teams adjustment. It's a long road to the state title and you need more than talent to win it. I hope that I am wrong.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 02:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
As a graduate of Smithtown East and a lacrosse program alumni nothing would please me more than a state championship. That being said I think they are a very talented team. I do have reservations about the coaching staff's ability to adjust during tight games. Take last year's County final for example. SE jumped out to a pretty good lead at the half. WM adjusted and tied it up to go to overtime. WM dominated in overtime and SE goalie stood on his head. SE scored and won it. Long Island championship pretty much the same thing but Syosset was overpowering and won it pretty handily. In both games SE didn't adjust to the other teams adjustment. It's a long road to the state title and you need more than talent to win it. I hope that I am wrong.


Is the Smithtown East coaching staff great? I don't know but I would say they are pretty good. They have been able to win back to back county championships. The first one they were certainly not the favorite and they found a way to win. Last year people expected them to win and they found a way to get it done. I don't recall any big adjustments made by the other team in the final game. I know they had a few different players fogo and one kid won cleanly in OT but thats about it. WM had a Stud attackman but he was unable to finish on that day. I think across the board Smithtown East was the better team and they proved it by winning. The coaching staff has been able to win with a large number of underclassmen and they have been able to win when the odds were against them. I think those are two signs that they are decent coaches. West Islip is the only program in the league that has a stronger coaching staff.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 03:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
For those who have never coached or played a high school sport, I would like to clarify the statement "nobody cares if it ends at the county"... as a former all county player and coach of a county championship team- let me add not in lacrosse...Winning county titles is not something to look past or minimize...that is a huge accomplishment...especially in Suffolk Boys lacrosse...probably one of the top counties in the state even north east region given the national rankings many of the teams have had in recent past. So winning a county title is a huge accomplishment. Unfortunately, in the State competition Suffolk and Nassau are required to play each other before getting off the Island to complete the State Championship run. So realistically that is the State final game as evidence by all of the Sate Championship teams from Long Island. Being a two time county champ is incredible. Also remember that team did so with many underclassman on the field. The first title saw 3 freshman with significant contributions...the second saw a team with freshman and sophomore contributions...This year the team will be looking at the junior class to carry the burden...but who doesn't like the prospects when you have kids with 2 county championships already under their belt...I'd take that experience any day as a coach.


I very much agree with this post. There Are 49 teams in Suffolk lax, I don't have the entire history of lax in front of me but it looks to be about 30+ teams that have never won a county title. So, as far as, 2 in a row, the list is very short. It is something to be very proud of.


On any given year there are two strong teams in the league. Some years there are three or four teams with a legit chance at winning the championship. There are some good teams but competition beyond the top few is weak.

I actually do believe that winning the County Championship is a big deal because most years you have to beat at least one or two strong teams in the playoffs. I just do not believe that most regular season game are competitive. Would much rather see a smaller conference and allow more non league games.
It will never happen so we will do what we can with what we have.

Who has a legit shot at beating Smithown East?



Nobody, nada, zip. Not at least until they get into the states. But they are definitely LI Champs this year. Have you seen that roster????? Unreal talent. Best, most consistent program on LI.


Hey Mr. Nada, I think you forgot about Syosset, who will beat them again. Maybe you were thinking about Suffolk County...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 06:10 PM
Syosset may have the best attackman and middie in NC but perhaps the best team in the county will be CSH and of course Pequa will not rollover for anyway - should be fun .....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Smithtown East Vs West Islip in the County Finals.

Smithtown East by 5

Threepeat.


All that matters is the State hardware. Nobody cares if it ends at the county. Last years' expectations were off the charts and it finished as a huge disappointment despite taking the county.


I think that it was you who had off the chart unrealistic expectations. It was you that was hugely disappointed at the way the season ended. I think everyone associated with the Smithtown East Program is proud of all they have accomplished in 2014 and 2015. Looking ahead to 2016 with tremendous optimism knowing that the players will give all that they have and the coaches will provide great leadership. Not sure that you can say the same.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 07:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Syosset may have the best attackman and middie in NC but perhaps the best team in the county will be CSH and of course Pequa will not rollover for anyway - should be fun .....


Did you just say CSH is best team in county????????

They would get beat up by Pequa, Syosset and probably a few more. Good team. No way best team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 09:02 PM
Question for all you experts.....
Historically over the last say 25-30 years who are the best programs in Nassau conference A,B,C?
Suffolk A,B,C?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 10:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question for all you experts.....
Historically over the last say 25-30 years who are the best programs in Nassau conference A,B,C?
Suffolk A,B,C?


Who cares? I think it is much more important to look to the future and who looks to be dominant. Much more relevant to look at recent history say 5 or even 10 years. The Power Programs like West Islip and Garden City would be considered the Top Two Programs.

Suffolk A - West Islip
Nassau A - Syosset

Suffolk B - Huntington?
Nassau B - Garden City

Suffolk C - IDK?
Nassau C - Manhasset (when they were in it)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 11:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question for all you experts.....
Historically over the last say 25-30 years who are the best programs in Nassau conference A,B,C?
Suffolk A,B,C?


Who cares? I think it is much more important to look to the future and who looks to be dominant. Much more relevant to look at recent history say 5 or even 10 years. The Power Programs like West Islip and Garden City would be considered the Top Two Programs.

Suffolk A - West Islip
Nassau A - Syosset

Suffolk B - Huntington?
Nassau B - Garden City

Suffolk C - IDK?
Nassau C - Manhasset (when they were in it)


West Islip is done, they hardly have any college commits. dynasty over.
Top teams will be the two Smithtowns with East having an edge. WM will be strong, and connetquot could be up there too. Northport will struggle with their senior losses. Syosset will be the best team in NC, but by no means better than the top Suffolk teams.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/23/15 11:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Syosset may have the best attackman and middie in NC but perhaps the best team in the county will be CSH and of course Pequa will not rollover for anyway - should be fun .....


CSH? That's funny!!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/24/15 01:02 AM
Wow, impressive analysis on long island high school lacrosse. You sound like that kid ogilvee in the bad news bears.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/24/15 02:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question for all you experts.....
Historically over the last say 25-30 years who are the best programs in Nassau conference A,B,C?
Suffolk A,B,C?


Who cares? I think it is much more important to look to the future and who looks to be dominant. Much more relevant to look at recent history say 5 or even 10 years. The Power Programs like West Islip and Garden City would be considered the Top Two Programs.

Suffolk A - West Islip
Nassau A - Syosset

Suffolk B - Huntington?
Nassau B - Garden City

Suffolk C - IDK?
Nassau C - Manhasset (when they were in it)


West Islip is done, they hardly have any college commits. dynasty over.
Top teams will be the two Smithtowns with East having an edge. WM will be strong, and connetquot could be up there too. Northport will struggle with their senior losses. Syosset will be the best team in NC, but by no means better than the top Suffolk teams.


Have to disagree with your predictions for Suffolk A.

Final Four will be:

Smithtown East
West Islip
Northport
Connetquot

Merry Christmas
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/24/15 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question for all you experts.....
Historically over the last say 25-30 years who are the best programs in Nassau conference A,B,C?
Suffolk A,B,C?


Who cares? I think it is much more important to look to the future and who looks to be dominant. Much more relevant to look at recent history say 5 or even 10 years. The Power Programs like West Islip and Garden City would be considered the Top Two Programs.

Suffolk A - West Islip
Nassau A - Syosset

Suffolk B - Huntington?
Nassau B - Garden City

Suffolk C - IDK?
Nassau C - Manhasset (when they were in it)


West Islip is done, they hardly have any college commits. dynasty over.
Top teams will be the two Smithtowns with East having an edge. WM will be strong, and connetquot could be up there too. Northport will struggle with their senior losses. Syosset will be the best team in NC, but by no means better than the top Suffolk teams.


If the West Islip kids are not being recruited it might be because the recruiting paradigm has drastically changed over the past two or three years.

College Coaches are gathering in mass at 9th and 10th grade tournaments that host the top club teams in the country. If a player is not on one of the top club teams playing in these events that player will have a more difficult time getting recruited by the top college programs.

The college coaches have spoken with their actions. College coaches want to be able to recruit at a venue where they can watch the top talent in the country. When the top teams from 91 and Madlax (Crabs, Express, Laxachusetts, HHH etc...) play college coaches get to watch a minimum of 20 plus legitimate D1 players competing in the same game. (150-250 top players per grade at an event)

Like it or not you can not dispute the facts. Take a look at the 2018 ans 2019 commits. There are over 350 (2018's) committed and about 99% play Club.
I would say that 100% of the 50 plus 2019's play club.

I am 100% sure that there are many players who are not on a top club team that are better than the top recruits. However, it will be more difficult for those players to get recruited if they are not at the big recruiting events.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/24/15 04:29 PM
All of these hs coaches play a pathetically slow brand of lax and that dramatically increases the importance of the fogo - I believe Pequa and Syo graduated strong faceoff men - that will be interesting to see who they have to step up - if not SE will be the fav for LI in A....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/24/15 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
All of these hs coaches play a pathetically slow brand of lax and that dramatically increases the importance of the fogo - I believe Pequa and Syo graduated strong faceoff men - that will be interesting to see who they have to step up - if not SE will be the fav for LI in A....


Syosset still has their fogo. Probably the only decent one in NC. Suffolk has 3 teams with strong fogos S East, S West, and quot. S EAST and West also has major talent in that area coming down the pipeline. WM is in the mix in that area as well.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/24/15 09:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question for all you experts.....
Historically over the last say 25-30 years who are the best programs in Nassau conference A,B,C?
Suffolk A,B,C?


Who cares? I think it is much more important to look to the future and who looks to be dominant. Much more relevant to look at recent history say 5 or even 10 years. The Power Programs like West Islip and Garden City would be considered the Top Two Programs.

Suffolk A - West Islip
Nassau A - Syosset

Suffolk B - Huntington?
Nassau B - Garden City

Suffolk C - IDK?
Nassau C - Manhasset (when they were in it)


West Islip is done, they hardly have any college commits. dynasty over.
Top teams will be the two Smithtowns with East having an edge. WM will be strong, and connetquot could be up there too. Northport will struggle with their senior losses. Syosset will be the best team in NC, but by no means better than the top Suffolk teams.


If the West Islip kids are not being recruited it might be because the recruiting paradigm has drastically changed over the past two or three years.

College Coaches are gathering in mass at 9th and 10th grade tournaments that host the top club teams in the country. If a player is not on one of the top club teams playing in these events that player will have a more difficult time getting recruited by the top college programs.

The college coaches have spoken with their actions. College coaches want to be able to recruit at a venue where they can watch the top talent in the country. When the top teams from 91 and Madlax (Crabs, Express, Laxachusetts, HHH etc...) play college coaches get to watch a minimum of 20 plus legitimate D1 players competing in the same game. (150-250 top players per grade at an event)

Like it or not you can not dispute the facts. Take a look at the 2018 ans 2019 commits. There are over 350 (2018's) committed and about 99% play Club.
I would say that 100% of the 50 plus 2019's play club.

I am 100% sure that there are many players who are not on a top club team that are better than the top recruits. However, it will be more difficult for those players to get recruited if they are not at the big recruiting events.


Is the West Islip dynasty done ? - yes, but it won't be replaced either. Since their last titles in 2012 (county,LI,state ) only Ward Melville has done that. Smithtown East and West were supposed to replace WI, but for all the talent SW did NOTHING and SE has the last two county titles but can't get off the island. So gloat all you want about commitments Smithtown because you haven't put up any bragging rights for successor to WI or WM.
As far as college commitments, the post above has it right. Since 2012 the early recruiting has hurt the WI kids, as the program doesn't bring up too many underclassmen and most don't play club in high school in addition to summer school team. The program does have to remedy this somehow by placing the younger H.S. teams in better tournaments and being more hands on with the youth program and the younger summer h.s. teams. That being said WI did beat the much hyped SW and WM teams who had a lot more D1 commits in 2014 to get to another county title game with an overachieving group. The coaching and unselfish players made the difference. We will be fine.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/24/15 10:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question for all you experts.....
Historically over the last say 25-30 years who are the best programs in Nassau conference A,B,C?
Suffolk A,B,C?


Who cares? I think it is much more important to look to the future and who looks to be dominant. Much more relevant to look at recent history say 5 or even 10 years. The Power Programs like West Islip and Garden City would be considered the Top Two Programs.

Suffolk A - West Islip
Nassau A - Syosset

Suffolk B - Huntington?
Nassau B - Garden City

Suffolk C - IDK?
Nassau C - Manhasset (when they were in it)


West Islip is done, they hardly have any college commits. dynasty over.
Top teams will be the two Smithtowns with East having an edge. WM will be strong, and connetquot could be up there too. Northport will struggle with their senior losses. Syosset will be the best team in NC, but by no means better than the top Suffolk teams.


If the West Islip kids are not being recruited it might be because the recruiting paradigm has drastically changed over the past two or three years.

College Coaches are gathering in mass at 9th and 10th grade tournaments that host the top club teams in the country. If a player is not on one of the top club teams playing in these events that player will have a more difficult time getting recruited by the top college programs.

The college coaches have spoken with their actions. College coaches want to be able to recruit at a venue where they can watch the top talent in the country. When the top teams from 91 and Madlax (Crabs, Express, Laxachusetts, HHH etc...) play college coaches get to watch a minimum of 20 plus legitimate D1 players competing in the same game. (150-250 top players per grade at an event)

Like it or not you can not dispute the facts. Take a look at the 2018 ans 2019 commits. There are over 350 (2018's) committed and about 99% play Club.
I would say that 100% of the 50 plus 2019's play club.

I am 100% sure that there are many players who are not on a top club team that are better than the top recruits. However, it will be more difficult for those players to get recruited if they are not at the big recruiting events.


Is the West Islip dynasty done ? - yes, but it won't be replaced either. Since their last titles in 2012 (county,LI,state ) only Ward Melville has done that. Smithtown East and West were supposed to replace WI, but for all the talent SW did NOTHING and SE has the last two county titles but can't get off the island. So gloat all you want about commitments Smithtown because you haven't put up any bragging rights for successor to WI or WM.
As far as college commitments, the post above has it right. Since 2012 the early recruiting has hurt the WI kids, as the program doesn't bring up too many underclassmen and most don't play club in high school in addition to summer school team. The program does have to remedy this somehow by placing the younger H.S. teams in better tournaments and being more hands on with the youth program and the younger summer h.s. teams. That being said WI did beat the much hyped SW and WM teams who had a lot more D1 commits in 2014 to get to another county title game with an overachieving group. The coaching and unselfish players made the difference. We will be fine.


No one will match West Islip's record of college lacrosse presence when they had 50+ kids per year playing in D1/D2/D3 over a 4-5 span. NO ONE. That's the WI legacy and I highly doubt it will be matched.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/25/15 02:28 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question for all you experts.....
Historically over the last say 25-30 years who are the best programs in Nassau conference A,B,C?
Suffolk A,B,C?


Who cares? I think it is much more important to look to the future and who looks to be dominant. Much more relevant to look at recent history say 5 or even 10 years. The Power Programs like West Islip and Garden City would be considered the Top Two Programs.

Suffolk A - West Islip
Nassau A - Syosset

Suffolk B - Huntington?
Nassau B - Garden City

Suffolk C - IDK?
Nassau C - Manhasset (when they were in it)


West Islip is done, they hardly have any college commits. dynasty over.
Top teams will be the two Smithtowns with East having an edge. WM will be strong, and connetquot could be up there too. Northport will struggle with their senior losses. Syosset will be the best team in NC, but by no means better than the top Suffolk teams.


If the West Islip kids are not being recruited it might be because the recruiting paradigm has drastically changed over the past two or three years.

College Coaches are gathering in mass at 9th and 10th grade tournaments that host the top club teams in the country. If a player is not on one of the top club teams playing in these events that player will have a more difficult time getting recruited by the top college programs.

The college coaches have spoken with their actions. College coaches want to be able to recruit at a venue where they can watch the top talent in the country. When the top teams from 91 and Madlax (Crabs, Express, Laxachusetts, HHH etc...) play college coaches get to watch a minimum of 20 plus legitimate D1 players competing in the same game. (150-250 top players per grade at an event)

Like it or not you can not dispute the facts. Take a look at the 2018 ans 2019 commits. There are over 350 (2018's) committed and about 99% play Club.
I would say that 100% of the 50 plus 2019's play club.

I am 100% sure that there are many players who are not on a top club team that are better than the top recruits. However, it will be more difficult for those players to get recruited if they are not at the big recruiting events.


Is the West Islip dynasty done ? - yes, but it won't be replaced either. Since their last titles in 2012 (county,LI,state ) only Ward Melville has done that. Smithtown East and West were supposed to replace WI, but for all the talent SW did NOTHING and SE has the last two county titles but can't get off the island. So gloat all you want about commitments Smithtown because you haven't put up any bragging rights for successor to WI or WM.
As far as college commitments, the post above has it right. Since 2012 the early recruiting has hurt the WI kids, as the program doesn't bring up too many underclassmen and most don't play club in high school in addition to summer school team. The program does have to remedy this somehow by placing the younger H.S. teams in better tournaments and being more hands on with the youth program and the younger summer h.s. teams. That being said WI did beat the much hyped SW and WM teams who had a lot more D1 commits in 2014 to get to another county title game with an overachieving group. The coaching and unselfish players made the difference. We will be fine.


No one will match West Islip's record of college lacrosse presence when they had 50+ kids per year playing in D1/D2/D3 over a 4-5 span. NO ONE. That's the WI legacy and I highly doubt it will be matched.


They had a great run! It's all in the past now. Sad but true. My opinion is that is lack of development of the younger kids. Not playing club has hurt the program, maybe beyond repair.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/25/15 01:21 PM
You mean starting at age 5 is to late, and having a year round lax program is not enough?
And yes keeping the kids at home, not letting them play club hurts. It hurts the stars, but it strengthens the average players. The average players get better by playing with their team mates. The stars don't play against better competition or get seen at top recruiting events. Many programs have caught up, many more a catching up. WI will always be in the mix.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/26/15 03:20 AM
WI and Garden City have both tried to go the "in town" model - it has not worked the last couple of years for them - if it does not play out in the next couple of years I suspect all of the kids in those towns will start to jump to clubs - high school coaches are clearly losing impact in the recruiting process and despite most people's wishes I doubt highly that it will slow down anytime soon....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/26/15 03:59 AM
GC FO kid is a soph and a Maryland commit - I would say he's better than decent
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/26/15 04:02 AM
SF from GC more entrenched in recruiting than most club coaches - every big time program leans on him for input and he really takes care of his kids, regardless of what you hear (those parents are the rose colored glasses with unrealistic expectations)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/26/15 03:33 PM
And got recruited playing club lacrosse!! What is point?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/26/15 05:12 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Question for all you experts.....
Historically over the last say 25-30 years who are the best programs in Nassau conference A,B,C?
Suffolk A,B,C?


Who cares? I think it is much more important to look to the future and who looks to be dominant. Much more relevant to look at recent history say 5 or even 10 years. The Power Programs like West Islip and Garden City would be considered the Top Two Programs.

Suffolk A - West Islip
Nassau A - Syosset

Suffolk B - Huntington?
Nassau B - Garden City

Suffolk C - IDK?
Nassau C - Manhasset (when they were in it)


West Islip is done, they hardly have any college commits. dynasty over.
Top teams will be the two Smithtowns with East having an edge. WM will be strong, and connetquot could be up there too. Northport will struggle with their senior losses. Syosset will be the best team in NC, but by no means better than the top Suffolk teams.


If the West Islip kids are not being recruited it might be because the recruiting paradigm has drastically changed over the past two or three years.

College Coaches are gathering in mass at 9th and 10th grade tournaments that host the top club teams in the country. If a player is not on one of the top club teams playing in these events that player will have a more difficult time getting recruited by the top college programs.

The college coaches have spoken with their actions. College coaches want to be able to recruit at a venue where they can watch the top talent in the country. When the top teams from 91 and Madlax (Crabs, Express, Laxachusetts, HHH etc...) play college coaches get to watch a minimum of 20 plus legitimate D1 players competing in the same game. (150-250 top players per grade at an event)

Like it or not you can not dispute the facts. Take a look at the 2018 ans 2019 commits. There are over 350 (2018's) committed and about 99% play Club.
I would say that 100% of the 50 plus 2019's play club.

I am 100% sure that there are many players who are not on a top club team that are better than the top recruits. However, it will be more difficult for those players to get recruited if they are not at the big recruiting events.


Is the West Islip dynasty done ? - yes, but it won't be replaced either. Since their last titles in 2012 (county,LI,state ) only Ward Melville has done that. Smithtown East and West were supposed to replace WI, but for all the talent SW did NOTHING and SE has the last two county titles but can't get off the island. So gloat all you want about commitments Smithtown because you haven't put up any bragging rights for successor to WI or WM.
As far as college commitments, the post above has it right. Since 2012 the early recruiting has hurt the WI kids, as the program doesn't bring up too many underclassmen and most don't play club in high school in addition to summer school team. The program does have to remedy this somehow by placing the younger H.S. teams in better tournaments and being more hands on with the youth program and the younger summer h.s. teams. That being said WI did beat the much hyped SW and WM teams who had a lot more D1 commits in 2014 to get to another county title game with an overachieving group. The coaching and unselfish players made the difference. We will be fine.


Who are you referring to when you state "we will be fine"?

Please do not put wardmelville in the same class as West Islip. We all know that wm has a long history of great lacrosse but their dynasty was a long long time ago. They have won exactly 1 county championship in the past 15 years and everyone knows there is an asterisk next to it.

Please stop the backward thinking regarding HS summer teams. Not bringing underclassmen up to varsity has very little impact on recruiting. HS lacrosse has very little impact on recruiting.

Smithtown East has won back to back County Championships until they are beaten they are the new dynasty. West Islip has as good of a chance as anyone to knock them off.

West Islip needs to have their best players spend some time playing with the best.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/26/15 06:39 PM
what is the asterik you refer to for WM's 2013 county title?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/26/15 09:11 PM
I didn't connect or reply to the thread that said something along the lines of "syosset has only good FOGO in Nassau County" - which was my point, that the GC kid committed to Maryland is very good as well - and I would venture to say you have no idea how that kids recruiting process went. Let's just leave it at that.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/26/15 11:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I didn't connect or reply to the thread that said something along the lines of "syosset has only good FOGO in Nassau County" - which was my point, that the GC kid committed to Maryland is very good as well - and I would venture to say you have no idea how that kids recruiting process went. Let's just leave it at that.


Sounds like somebody didn't get invite to commit to Maryland. Sorry Daddy! Sour groups !
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 12:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I didn't connect or reply to the thread that said something along the lines of "syosset has only good FOGO in Nassau County" - which was my point, that the GC kid committed to Maryland is very good as well - and I would venture to say you have no idea how that kids recruiting process went. Let's just leave it at that.


Sounds like somebody didn't get invite to commit to Maryland. Sorry Daddy! Sour groups !


Maryland is quick to commit mediocre talent. They often take two a year. They have one guy that takes f/o the rest sit the bench. and get no money. Good luck with that! Like I said the only decent kid, not elite, but good, is the soyosset fogo, who will probably not play in college till his senior yesr (maybe) due to the elite northport kid who is there now and will most likely start. You people really have no clue!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 02:52 AM
You people either don't read the posts or just can't comprehend the point at hand. There are no sour grapes in reference to this commit - I was actually applauding his talent. The point being, and let me spell it out, that there is more than one decent faceoff kid in Nassau County - it's not just the kid from Syo - the kid from
GC is better than decent as well. I am sure there are more than two decent fogos in Nassau County as well, these aren't the only two.

Also lets take the Maryland FO kids from Northport, Syo, Commack, GC (in recruiting class order 2015-2018) and you have better than mediocre talent.

When has Maryland taken two true fogos in one of their top classes with Tillman?

They take 1 a year, and very good ones at that. But yet I have no clue ?

Don't be suprised of the GC kid plays offense eventually

Daddy's being Daddy's

Educating the field
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 03:30 AM
This guy may say that it was a weak year for LI lacrosse as some people have said in the past, or maybe he knows of some secret reason that he can't elaborate on. I have watched a lot of lax over the last 30 years and to say anything negative about that team would mean your an idiot who knows nothing about the game. That team was a buzz saw that was unbeatable that year. I would put them up against any one team over the last 10 years on LI and they would be the favorites. That includes the great WI teams which was a run that will probably not be seen anytime soon. As we all know LI high school lax can be a year to year sport and sometimes a town has a special group. Don't do a disservice to those kids by trying to come up with excuses why they were so good. The bottom line is sometimes a team really is that good. A thorough beat down of a good Massapequa team and Running time in state championship game should say it all.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 03:35 AM
Amen and well played! Great points all around.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people either don't read the posts or just can't comprehend the point at hand. There are no sour grapes in reference to this commit - I was actually applauding his talent. The point being, and let me spell it out, that there is more than one decent faceoff kid in Nassau County - it's not just the kid from Syo - the kid from
GC is better than decent as well. I am sure there are more than two decent fogos in Nassau County as well, these aren't the only two.

Also lets take the Maryland FO kids from Northport, Syo, Commack, GC (in recruiting class order 2015-2018) and you have better than mediocre talent.

When has Maryland taken two true fogos in one of their top classes with Tillman?

They take 1 a year, and very good ones at that. But yet I have no clue ?

Don't be suprised of the GC kid plays offense eventually

Daddy's being Daddy's

Educating the field


When it comes to a position like fogo, there is good, then there is elite. There is much more talent in Suffolk in this area. Last year and this year. These kids get better playing other top guys. In college they pretty much only play one kid. If you are going in behind a guy that is considered elite, you really don't have much of a chance to see the field until the other kid graduates or gets injured. And if there are other good kids in front of you that could work against you as well. Maryland will most likely start the same kid for the next 4 years. He is the one getting the big scholarship money. The rest ride the bench. Same kind of thing happens with with goalies. You really need to take into account who is ahead of you in the same position. I've even seen HS kids move to different districts because of this.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 02:58 PM
Let me get this straight, its a little early. Are you saying that you know people who moved out of high school districts because there was a better lacrosse player ahead of them. I don't believe any sane parent would do that. There has to be more to the story. Its not believable. The end of the lacrosse rainbow is what, making 700 dollars a game in the MLL, saving 10, 000 a year in college, or giving lessons making 50 bucks an hour. To uproot a family and go to another high school, because your current district has a better goalie or fogo, is just not believable.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You people either don't read the posts or just can't comprehend the point at hand. There are no sour grapes in reference to this commit - I was actually applauding his talent. The point being, and let me spell it out, that there is more than one decent faceoff kid in Nassau County - it's not just the kid from Syo - the kid from
GC is better than decent as well. I am sure there are more than two decent fogos in Nassau County as well, these aren't the only two.

Also lets take the Maryland FO kids from Northport, Syo, Commack, GC (in recruiting class order 2015-2018) and you have better than mediocre talent.

When has Maryland taken two true fogos in one of their top classes with Tillman?

They take 1 a year, and very good ones at that. But yet I have no clue ?

Don't be suprised of the GC kid plays offense eventually

Daddy's being Daddy's

Educating the field


Great. Thanks so much for educating everyone. When you say things like "let's just leave it like that", you are not being complimentary. You are pretending you know things you don't. Unless you are the Maryland coach, please stop with the unsolicited "education".
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 04:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let me get this straight, its a little early. Are you saying that you know people who moved out of high school districts because there was a better lacrosse player ahead of them. I don't believe any sane parent would do that. There has to be more to the story. Its not believable. The end of the lacrosse rainbow is what, making 700 dollars a game in the MLL, saving 10, 000 a year in college, or giving lessons making 50 bucks an hour. To uproot a family and go to another high school, because your current district has a better goalie or fogo, is just not believable.


This has definitely happened, and not just in lax. It usually happens by a kid living with a divorced parent other relative living in another district. If the family can afford it they may try the private school route. One prominent fogo, sophomore Hopkins commit from Suffolk just left his decent hs program where he was starting to attend private school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 04:08 PM
Not sure why I'm wasting time but "Let's just leave it at that" was in reference to no one knowing about how his recruiting process went / in no way is that insulting. Indeed you can't even understand in posts I'm sticking up for the kid and calling him a high quality player - read, comprehend and retain what is being said then make a statement don't just type to be heard

Still waiting for Tillmans top classes with two fogos a year?

Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 04:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure why I'm wasting time but "Let's just leave it at that" was in reference to no one knowing about how his recruiting process went / in no way is that insulting. Indeed you can't even understand in posts I'm sticking up for the kid and calling him a high quality player - read, comprehend and retain what is being said then make a statement don't just type to be heard

Still waiting for Tillmans top classes with two fogos a year?



For one, the 2016 grad year. They have one from Maryland and one from Syosset. Not sure,about other years, but I suspect there are more.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 09:12 PM
This is the decent fogo's dad ...... You know the kid who beat your elite Suffolk fogo's team in the LIC. All of you parents pop off and know zip about Recruiting, $ or Marylands mindset going forward as they attempt to win an NCAA ring. Let the refs ref, the coaches coach and the players play. And the over opinionated jerk off should stay off the booze when sitting in front of his computer screen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 09:24 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is the decent fogo's dad ...... You know the kid who beat your elite Suffolk fogo's team in the LIC. All of you parents pop off and know zip about Recruiting, $ or Marylands mindset going forward as they attempt to win an NCAA ring. Let the refs ref, the coaches coach and the players play. And the over opinionated jerk off should stay off the booze when sitting in front of his computer screen.



Calm down mom.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 09:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not sure why I'm wasting time but "Let's just leave it at that" was in reference to no one knowing about how his recruiting process went / in no way is that insulting. Indeed you can't even understand in posts I'm sticking up for the kid and calling him a high quality player - read, comprehend and retain what is being said then make a statement don't just type to be heard

Still waiting for Tillmans top classes with two fogos a year?




Let's pretend no one cares what you think or pretend to know. Then would you shut up and step away from the bottle and computer? Leave the kids alone.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 10:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is the decent fogo's dad ...... You know the kid who beat your elite Suffolk fogo's team in the LIC. All of you parents pop off and know zip about Recruiting, $ or Marylands mindset going forward as they attempt to win an NCAA ring. Let the refs ref, the coaches coach and the players play. And the over opinionated jerk off should stay off the booze when sitting in front of his computer screen.



Calm down mom.


Nah it's the Dad and you're still a jerk off
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 10:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is the decent fogo's dad ...... You know the kid who beat your elite Suffolk fogo's team in the LIC. All of you parents pop off and know zip about Recruiting, $ or Marylands mindset going forward as they attempt to win an NCAA ring. Let the refs ref, the coaches coach and the players play. And the over opinionated jerk off should stay off the booze when sitting in front of his computer screen.



Calm down mom.


Easy there! Actually he (your son) lost the majority if you want the stats. You need to calm down and get your facts strait. Your son did better than expected, let's leave it at that, still no state hardware ca me of it. There are a number of decent f/o kids on LI. They all work very hard and generally get along well with one another. It was actually your son that was identified as the best in NC. Best of luck to them all in the upcoming season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/27/15 10:37 PM
How are the goalies looking?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/28/15 12:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is the decent fogo's dad ...... You know the kid who beat your elite Suffolk fogo's team in the LIC. All of you parents pop off and know zip about Recruiting, $ or Marylands mindset going forward as they attempt to win an NCAA ring. Let the refs ref, the coaches coach and the players play. And the over opinionated jerk off should stay off the booze when sitting in front of his computer screen.



Calm down mom.











Nah it's the Dad and you're still a jerk off




Wow. U sound like a Whiney mom.......who makes believe that anyone cares
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/28/15 02:37 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is the decent fogo's dad ...... You know the kid who beat your elite Suffolk fogo's team in the LIC. All of you parents pop off and know zip about Recruiting, $ or Marylands mindset going forward as they attempt to win an NCAA ring. Let the refs ref, the coaches coach and the players play. And the over opinionated jerk off should stay off the booze when sitting in front of his computer screen.



Calm down mom.











Nah it's the Dad and you're still a jerk off




Wow. U sound like a Whiney mom.......who makes believe that anyone cares


Again your a jerk off and identify yourself but you won't because your a mutt
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/28/15 03:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let me get this straight, its a little early. Are you saying that you know people who moved out of high school districts because there was a better lacrosse player ahead of them. I don't believe any sane parent would do that. There has to be more to the story. Its not believable. The end of the lacrosse rainbow is what, making 700 dollars a game in the MLL, saving 10, 000 a year in college, or giving lessons making 50 bucks an hour. To uproot a family and go to another high school, because your current district has a better goalie or fogo, is just not believable.


This has definitely happened, and not just in lax. It usually happens by a kid living with a divorced parent other relative living in another district. If the family can afford it they may try the private school route. One prominent fogo, sophomore Hopkins commit from Suffolk just left his decent hs program where he was starting to attend private school.


There are plenty of school districts that lose their top players every year. Mainly to the privates. Let alone their middle of the road and bottom players. All things considered I am sure for all of them (since this is a lax site)Lacrosse is the last straw and deciding factor.

you may say parents are ridiculous for thinking this way, I say to each their own. 3 weeks before the next crop of athletes leave their districts for the privates. Good luck
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/28/15 06:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let me get this straight, its a little early. Are you saying that you know people who moved out of high school districts because there was a better lacrosse player ahead of them. I don't believe any sane parent would do that. There has to be more to the story. Its not believable. The end of the lacrosse rainbow is what, making 700 dollars a game in the MLL, saving 10, 000 a year in college, or giving lessons making 50 bucks an hour. To uproot a family and go to another high school, because your current district has a better goalie or fogo, is just not believable.


This has definitely happened, and not just in lax. It usually happens by a kid living with a divorced parent other relative living in another district. If the family can afford it they may try the private school route. One prominent fogo, sophomore Hopkins commit from Suffolk just left his decent hs program where he was starting to attend private school.


There are plenty of school districts that lose their top players every year. Mainly to the privates. Let alone their middle of the road and bottom players. All things considered I am sure for all of them (since this is a lax site)Lacrosse is the last straw and deciding factor.

you may say parents are ridiculous for thinking this way, I say to each their own. 3 weeks before the next crop of athletes leave their districts for the privates. Good luck


3 weeks before the 2020's find out if they will head off to the privates.

Which districts future was put on hold with the departure of their 2019/2018's. What schools felt the exodus prior, who are the "could have beens" if their 2017 2016 stayed in district?

2019?
2018?
2017?
2016?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/28/15 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is the decent fogo's dad ...... You know the kid who beat your elite Suffolk fogo's team in the LIC. All of you parents pop off and know zip about Recruiting, $ or Marylands mindset going forward as they attempt to win an NCAA ring. Let the refs ref, the coaches coach and the players play. And the over opinionated jerk off should stay off the booze when sitting in front of his computer screen.



Calm down mom.











Nah it's the Dad and you're still a jerk off




Wow. U sound like a Whiney mom.......who makes believe that anyone cares


Again your a jerk off and identify yourself but you won't because your a mutt


Let's start with your name and number. Tough gal. Otherwise you are just a fake.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/28/15 02:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is the decent fogo's dad ...... You know the kid who beat your elite Suffolk fogo's team in the LIC. All of you parents pop off and know zip about Recruiting, $ or Marylands mindset going forward as they attempt to win an NCAA ring. Let the refs ref, the coaches coach and the players play. And the over opinionated jerk off should stay off the booze when sitting in front of his computer screen.






Calm down mom.











Nah it's the Dad and you're still a jerk off




Wow. U sound like a Whiney mom.......who makes believe that anyone cares


Again your a jerk off and identify yourself but you won't because your a mutt


Let's start with your name and number. Tough gal. Otherwise you are just a fake.



ok..ok.. its Your Mama......
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/28/15 03:10 PM
I think Bay Shore could run into problems with kids leaving for privates. They looked real good this past fall. I hope the Coach has a chance to keep them all together.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/28/15 03:33 PM
Not a safe school . More important than lacrosse.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/28/15 04:37 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think Bay Shore could run into problems with kids leaving for privates. They looked real good this past fall. I hope the Coach has a chance to keep them all together.


Not sure about the rest of the positions but take a look at the goalies they put out. SJB, STA, CHAM, along with the one in the pipes at BS. All these Bay Shore boys will play at the next level.

They also have a very good 2020 goalie as well as a few 2021s.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/29/15 02:46 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a safe school . More important than lacrosse.


Every school has their issues, sex drugs violence, some more than others.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/29/15 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a safe school . More important than lacrosse.


Every school has their issues, sex drugs violence, some more than others.


There are many reasons why parents send their kid to private school. Over the years players from Wantagh, South Side, Massapequa, Syosset, Smithown, Ward melville, Garden City, Manhasset, Huntington, Cold Spring Harbor etc... have all opted to attend private school.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/29/15 01:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a safe school . More important than lacrosse.


Every school has their issues, sex drugs violence, some more than others.


Agree people need to embrace diversity. Bay Shore HS churns out great athletes AND academic kids. Do some research
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/29/15 05:43 PM
Bay Shore has a problem because their lacrosse is a team not a program. There is no coordination between youth, middle school and high school. The town definitely has talented kids that live there, its just that a good amount leave for Catholic schools for many different reasons. But I am sure it would make the decision to leave harder for them if things were more coordinated. The school is safe and the education is very good so that's not the reason. They have some good kids coming up so time will tell.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/29/15 11:48 PM
2019's have some really good goalies
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/30/15 01:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a safe school . More important than lacrosse.


Every school has their issues, sex drugs violence, some more than others.


Agree people need to embrace diversity. Bay Shore HS churns out great athletes AND academic kids. Do some research


I agree! Too bad everyones looking for greener grass. There is something to be said about town pride. Too bad Bay Shore is lacking there!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/30/15 02:31 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a safe school . More important than lacrosse.


Every school has their issues, sex drugs violence, some more than others.


There are many reasons why parents send their kid to private school. Over the years players from Wantagh, South Side, Massapequa, Syosset, Smithown, Ward melville, Garden City, Manhasset, Huntington, Cold Spring Harbor etc... have all opted to attend private school.


Every year the BS program loses students to the Catholic HS, Nothing new. The district also houses a big catholic school following which naturally funnels players to the catholic HS. Others find the value of a catholic environment and education for the secondary years. Then you have those which throw their hands up by the time they leave the MS.

In relation to Lacrosse it is very unfortunate the district loses (or never had) the top players in each grade. I am not sure this will change in the future. The impact of this affects the numbers and quality of depth. This is evident in their roster size they carry one of the smallest squads on LI. They are definitely one of the schools impacted by the catholic exodus.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/30/15 02:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Not a safe school . More important than lacrosse.


Every school has their issues, sex drugs violence, some more than others.


There are many reasons why parents send their kid to private school. Over the years players from Wantagh, South Side, Massapequa, Syosset, Smithown, Ward melville, Garden City, Manhasset, Huntington, Cold Spring Harbor etc... have all opted to attend private school.


Every year the BS program loses students to the Catholic HS, Nothing new. The district also houses a big catholic school following which naturally funnels players to the catholic HS. Others find the value of a catholic environment and education for the secondary years. Then you have those which throw their hands up by the time they leave the MS.

In relation to Lacrosse it is very unfortunate the district loses (or never had) the top players in each grade. I am not sure this will change in the future. The impact of this affects the numbers and quality of depth. This is evident in their roster size they carry one of the smallest squads on LI. They are definitely one of the schools impacted by the catholic exodus.


loosely based on what I witnessed during the fall tournaments, Bay Shore will field a reasonably strong team this coming season. After speaking with some of their parents, they seem to have a small squad (in numbers) and a young team (only 2 or 3 seniors). Their lefty attackman is a 2020 and off the charts, as big and as athletic and skilled as most seniors, and is reported to be the top lefty, if not the top player in the country in the 2020 year. Unfortunately depending heavily on an 8th grader does not paint a rosy picture for the program in the near future. This kid is also rumored to be heading to St A's or Chaminade next year. Good luck to all in the coming season.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/30/15 07:25 PM
how many other LI teams will have MS players or 9th graders play a pivotal role for the Varsity team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/30/15 07:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how many other LI teams will have MS players or 9th graders play a pivotal role for the Varsity team.


you will see more girls than boys. Less numbers
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/30/15 07:50 PM
If you are counting on a 9th grader your not good.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/30/15 08:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how many other LI teams will have MS players or 9th graders play a pivotal role for the Varsity team.


The Bay Shore boy would not play a pivotal role on the Varsity team. From the looks of things at the LI Classic, they have some work to do. This particular boy is good, but like all younger players, once you get in there with experienced varsity players, you don't look so good anymore. Besides, he's going to St A's. Good luck to Bay Shore, it would be nice if the home town boys would stick around!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/30/15 08:44 PM
A bit off topic, but in perusing these forums today, I came to appreciate that middle school teams are a thing in NY. In MD, outside of the private schools, no such animal exists. This probably explains the dearth of talent coming out of the Maryland publics when compared to those in NY.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/30/15 09:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how many other LI teams will have MS players or 9th graders play a pivotal role for the Varsity team.


The Bay Shore boy would not play a pivotal role on the Varsity team. From the looks of things at the LI Classic, they have some work to do. This particular boy is good, but like all younger players, once you get in there with experienced varsity players, you don't look so good anymore. Besides, he's going to St A's. Good luck to Bay Shore, it would be nice if the home town boys would stick around!


Enough about Bay Shore, what other teams are fortunate enough to have talented MSers 9th graders play up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/30/15 09:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
A bit off topic, but in perusing these forums today, I came to appreciate that middle school teams are a thing in NY. In MD, outside of the private schools, no such animal exists. This probably explains the dearth of talent coming out of the Maryland publics when compared to those in NY.


Long Island usually fields 7th and 8th grade MS teams but it just glorified rec ball / babysitting. Nothing really being taught but they do run thousands of shuttles so that's something I guess!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/30/15 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how many other LI teams will have MS players or 9th graders play a pivotal role for the Varsity team.


The Bay Shore boy would not play a pivotal role on the Varsity team. From the looks of things at the LI Classic, they have some work to do. This particular boy is good, but like all younger players, once you get in there with experienced varsity players, you don't look so good anymore. Besides, he's going to St A's. Good luck to Bay Shore, it would be nice if the home town boys would stick around!


Enough about Bay Shore, what other teams are fortunate enough to have talented MSers 9th graders play up.


Several 9th graders started last year or came in second. This happened in all the powerhouses.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/31/15 02:15 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how many other LI teams will have MS players or 9th graders play a pivotal role for the Varsity team.


The Bay Shore boy would not play a pivotal role on the Varsity team. From the looks of things at the LI Classic, they have some work to do. This particular boy is good, but like all younger players, once you get in there with experienced varsity players, you don't look so good anymore. Besides, he's going to St A's. Good luck to Bay Shore, it would be nice if the home town boys would stick around!


To say the player will not have a pivotal role is Rediculous. I am sure he will start and probably be one of the top point leaders. Bay Shore has an uncanny way of working underclassman in, much because of need but it works for them. Good luck to all the boys
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/31/15 03:09 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
how many other LI teams will have MS players or 9th graders play a pivotal role for the Varsity team.


The Bay Shore boy would not play a pivotal role on the Varsity team. From the looks of things at the LI Classic, they have some work to do. This particular boy is good, but like all younger players, once you get in there with experienced varsity players, you don't look so good anymore. Besides, he's going to St A's. Good luck to Bay Shore, it would be nice if the home town boys would stick around!


To say the player will not have a pivotal role is Rediculous. I am sure he will start and probably be one of the top point leaders. Bay Shore has an uncanny way of working underclassman in, much because of need but it works for them. Good luck to all the boys


First of all you can't play a pivotal role on a team you're not on because you decide to go private. Second, Bay Shore will not even be a threat for a county championship with or without an 8th grader. Funny! You are right about one thing, he'll start on a 9th grade team nobody cares about! And probably play a pivotal role!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/31/15 02:47 PM
"You are right about one thing, he'll start on a 9th grade team nobody cares about!"

Why will nobody care about it? Because YOU don't care about it? How about the players, coaches, parents, , etc. on that team and the teams they play against? How about the numerous college coaches who attend that 9th grade teams games? Yeah, I guess nobody cares because you don't care about it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/31/15 03:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"You are right about one thing, he'll start on a 9th grade team nobody cares about!"

Why will nobody care about it? Because YOU don't care about it? How about the players, coaches, parents, , etc. on that team and the teams they play against? How about the numerous college coaches who attend that 9th grade teams games? Yeah, I guess nobody cares because you don't care about it.


You are right, parents of the players care about 9th grade and JV games, nobody else cares! I dont see Newsday, MSG varsity, Tweets, etc. "Numerous college coaches" at a 9th grade game?? Don't worry when your son plays varsity, there will be time for that. Enjoy the ride, and yea, most people besides the players and parents could care less about non-varsity hs athletics.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/31/15 05:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Bay Shore has a problem because their lacrosse is a team not a program. There is no coordination between youth, middle school and high school. The town definitely has talented kids that live there, its just that a good amount leave for Catholic schools for many different reasons. But I am sure it would make the decision to leave harder for them if things were more coordinated. The school is safe and the education is very good so that's not the reason. They have some good kids coming up so time will tell.


Not the only town in this category. How about East Islip? Kids commuting all the way to Chaminade and Kellenberg and also to SJB.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/31/15 05:50 PM
I am not sure where the 9th grade game comment came from, does that even exists. Not even sure why you lumped JV in. IMHO I believe the post was about impactful players on varsity that happen to be 9th or younger.

Connetiquot and Smithtown had some high profile 9th graders last year. About 10 or so 8th graders played significant moments for their Varsity teams. What schools (outside of Bay Shore) have those young players filling roles this year.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/31/15 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I am not sure where the 9th grade game comment came from, does that even exists. Not even sure why you lumped JV in. IMHO I believe the post was about impactful players on varsity that happen to be 9th or younger.

Connetiquot and Smithtown had some high profile 9th graders last year. About 10 or so 8th graders played significant moments for their Varsity teams. What schools (outside of Bay Shore) have those young players filling roles this year.


The 9th grade comment was with respect to catholics who do not bring young players up the Varsity level regardless of their talent. These boys wind up playing on 9th grade teams that nobody cares about (except of course the players and their parents) As for any 9th or 8th graders playing pivotal roles on their top tier LI public teams, The answer is no. Some got in a bit, and learned a lot. Made some contributions. This would be the year they (sophomores ) will use that experience to be difference makers.IMHO
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/31/15 07:59 PM
The fact that this discussion has turned to what 8th and 9th graders will play significant roles on varsity teams speaks volumes to the fact that High School lacrosse on the Island is not very competitive (outside of the top 2 or three teams per league). Make a Power League already. As far as who cares about 9th grade lacrosse? I would say just about every major college coach in the country cares. 2018 and 2019 saw by far the most college coaches on their sidelines of any age groups this past fall and summer. The Top Club Teams draw an incredible amount of attention. Very few if any of the 2018's or 19" s would be able to compete with the top 2016 teams yet they are able to play major roles on varsity teams. An earlier post made reference to middle school lacrosse being a joke, well, most varsity programs are not much better. Same teams at the top year in and year out beating up on teams that have very few strong players and very limited depth. Even the top HS teams feel the need (for whateverreason) to bring up 9th graders. I think towns like Garden City, Syosset, Massapequa and Smithtown East could do just fine with out bringing up any 9th graders. Maybe the strong small schools do not have the depth.
Time for a Power League or smaller conferences so the teams can play more Non-League games against competitive teams. I bet that just about anyone who follows HS Lacrosse on the Island can predict the top 2 or three teams in each conference.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 12/31/15 08:34 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact that this discussion has turned to what 8th and 9th graders will play significant roles on varsity teams speaks volumes to the fact that High School lacrosse on the Island is not very competitive (outside of the top 2 or three teams per league). Make a Power League already. As far as who cares about 9th grade lacrosse? I would say just about every major college coach in the country cares. 2018 and 2019 saw by far the most college coaches on their sidelines of any age groups this past fall and summer. The Top Club Teams draw an incredible amount of attention. Very few if any of the 2018's or 19" s would be able to compete with the top 2016 teams yet they are able to play major roles on varsity teams. An earlier post made reference to middle school lacrosse being a joke, well, most varsity programs are not much better. Same teams at the top year in and year out beating up on teams that have very few strong players and very limited depth. Even the top HS teams feel the need (for whateverreason) to bring up 9th graders. I think towns like Garden City, Syosset, Massapequa and Smithtown East could do just fine with out bringing up any 9th graders. Maybe the strong small schools do not have the depth.
Time for a Power League or smaller conferences so the teams can play more Non-League games against competitive teams. I bet that just about anyone who follows HS Lacrosse on the Island can predict the top 2 or three teams in each conference.


Agree with what you say for the most part. Only when I talk about nobody caring about MS, 9th grade, and JV Lacrosse, you do realize I'm talking about school ball, not club, which is a completely different animal. In the publics the really good kids get brought up to varsity where many so care to watch and follow the sport. In the privates where they do not bring up kids, I maintain my position that nobody cares! And yes, I know many of these kids the been recruited through their club teams where there is much more interest to follow teams and kids. This is not just true of Lacrosse, but all varsity sports.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/01/16 08:05 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
The fact that this discussion has turned to what 8th and 9th graders will play significant roles on varsity teams speaks volumes to the fact that High School lacrosse on the Island is not very competitive (outside of the top 2 or three teams per league). Make a Power League already. As far as who cares about 9th grade lacrosse? I would say just about every major college coach in the country cares. 2018 and 2019 saw by far the most college coaches on their sidelines of any age groups this past fall and summer. The Top Club Teams draw an incredible amount of attention. Very few if any of the 2018's or 19" s would be able to compete with the top 2016 teams yet they are able to play major roles on varsity teams. An earlier post made reference to middle school lacrosse being a joke, well, most varsity programs are not much better. Same teams at the top year in and year out beating up on teams that have very few strong players and very limited depth. Even the top HS teams feel the need (for whateverreason) to bring up 9th graders. I think towns like Garden City, Syosset, Massapequa and Smithtown East could do just fine with out bringing up any 9th graders. Maybe the strong small schools do not have the depth.
Time for a Power League or smaller conferences so the teams can play more Non-League games against competitive teams. I bet that just about anyone who follows HS Lacrosse on the Island can predict the top 2 or three teams in each conference.


I disagree. I like to see the young guys play and have seen many act and play as mature smart players with IQ's as high as Jr's on the varsity field for the first time.

I don't see it as a trend that LI is on a down trend or the teams are watered down. I see it that there are diamonds in the rough who can play. I like to follow these guys through the years. I think the power conferences are a crock and server no purpose. Colleges have conferences and there are weak and strong teams there as well. Sure there should be more wiggle room for non league competitive play but leave the league games alone. Let the neighboring towns play each other, let Suffolk play more Nassu and let Li teams play Ct West and Nj PA MD VA teams.

Happy New years. West coast!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/01/16 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"You are right about one thing, he'll start on a 9th grade team nobody cares about!"

Why will nobody care about it? Because YOU don't care about it? How about the players, coaches, parents, , etc. on that team and the teams they play against? How about the numerous college coaches who attend that 9th grade teams games? Yeah, I guess nobody cares because you don't care about it.


My son may play Varsity as a 9th grader this year. What does it mean , not much in my eyes.Smsller school so the opportunity may present itself.Good for him if it happens but it doesn't mean he's the best out there
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/01/16 05:57 PM
We have D1 juniors fighting for playing time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/02/16 05:11 AM
." Let the neighboring towns play each other, let Suffolk play more Nassu and let Li teams play Ct West and Nj PA MD VA teams."

You do realize the coaches pick who they play non conference right? Nobody is stopping out of conference play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 10:59 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We have D1 juniors fighting for playing time.


Impossible..... What school ?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 01:01 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We have D1 juniors fighting for playing time.


Impossible..... What school ?


Completely accurate on the girls side at 2-3 nassau county schools
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 01:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We have D1 juniors fighting for playing time.


Impossible..... What school ?


Why would you say impossible? Do you think that all D1 commits are the same? Do you think all HS coaches are capable of identifying the best players?
Do you think that politics are absent from HS sports? Do you think HS coaches do not let their personal feelings influence their decisions? Do you think coaches who have a conflict of interest (financial interest / profit motive) are not influenced by their own greed?

Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We have D1 juniors fighting for playing time.


Impossible..... What school ?


Completely accurate on the girls side at 2-3 nassau county schools


There are plenty of boys in Suffolk that are D1 including Jrs and Srs. That are not starting or getting significant playing time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 01:46 PM
happens at G.C. and Manhassett more often than you would think
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 03:30 PM
yep...look at Chaminade
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 03:49 PM
Yes but for all the wrong reasons. GC does it so kids don't go to Chaminade. Every year GC Head Coach does his home visits and promises the parents the move up. Once the school year starts some do some dont get moved but now those kids are his. For some reason the parents fall for his story every year. Can't transfer into Chaminade once school starts. Also isn't there a rule on the books if you are moved up to Varsity as a freshmen you must play or be moved down to JV ???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 05:55 PM
Been scanning this thread and have a quick question regarding the Catholic schools. Someone said you can't play up. Does that mean a 9/10th grader can't play varsity? Or just that they can't take 8th graders (since most don't have an 8th grade).

Thanks in advance.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 06:09 PM
No not true. It is just that one chooses not to move any kids up and does not have the need to move kids up. Most if a player is good enough and will help the team do move kids up. Most publics do because of numbers.
The 2 top Catholic programs on LI get a very large turnout for tryouts when most publics have to work hard to get enough to be able to scrimmage in practice.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 06:40 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes but for all the wrong reasons. GC does it so kids don't go to Chaminade. Every year GC Head Coach does his home visits and promises the parents the move up. Once the school year starts some do some dont get moved but now those kids are his. For some reason the parents fall for his story every year. Can't transfer into Chaminade once school starts. Also isn't there a rule on the books if you are moved up to Varsity as a freshmen you must play or be moved down to JV ???


This is a town by town or district rule (on whether your on Varsity or JV) State used to set a max amount of games you can play (regular season only?, not sure). But the max is JV and Varsity combined Usually 16 league games not playoffs. You can play as many games on Jv or varsity as long as you don't go over that threshold (again I am not sure if this is regular games not playoffs) and as long as there is an overnight in between games. Cant leave the JV field toplay for varsity if you just played.

So you can be on the sideline for a varsity game but if you don't see the field it doesn't count. Remember playing time is the key.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 09:01 PM
only catholic school with that rule is Chammy. dom's , st Mary's , etc. all have freshman play
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 09:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
only catholic school with that rule is Chammy. dom's , st Mary's , etc. all have freshman play


And St. A too.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/04/16 11:17 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
only catholic school with that rule is Chammy. dom's , st Mary's , etc. all have freshman play


And St. A too.


And kellenberg
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 01:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We have D1 juniors fighting for playing time.


Impossible..... What school ?


Completely accurate on the girls side at 2-3 nassau county schools


Suffolk too - not always because the team is that good. More like the fact that just about anybody can give a verbal, doesn't mean they are one of the best players. Commits who barely see the field at mediocre programs.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 02:40 PM
THAT IS SPOT ON.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We have D1 juniors fighting for playing time.


Impossible..... What school ?


Completely accurate on the girls side at 2-3 nassau county schools


Suffolk too - not always because the team is that good. More like the fact that just about anybody can give a verbal, doesn't mean they are one of the best players. Commits who barely see the field at mediocre programs.



Sounds to me like someone is jealous. "Just about anybody can give a verbal", really? I don't think that you have any idea how the recruiting process works. I will say that not all kids that are committed to play in college are equal. College programs are not equal either. There is a big difference between a top 10 - 20 D1 program and a middle of the road D1 program or any DII or DIII program (there are some very good players everywhere but they are the exception).

Try calling a top 20 coach and saying "hey, my daughter wants to commit. I heard that you will commit just about anybody". Let us know how that goes.

The top programs recruit the top players. That is how they stay at the top.
After the top players commit the top programs look to fill their slots with the next tier of player and on and on it goes.

The next tier programs do not lock up many of the top recruits, especially early. For example, Villanova, George Washiton, Binghamton, Quinnipiac, Lafayette etc... do not compete with North Carolina, Maryland, Virginia, Northwestern, Duke, Syracuse etc... for the "Top Recruits".

If you would like to know where your daughter stands ask yourself the following questions:

In relation to others from around the country in the same grad year, When Did She Start Getting Recruited?

What schools "identified her and actively pursued and recruited her"? (what schools made offers)

When was an offer made, what was the offer and what caliber school made the offer?

Big difference between a kid who is recruited early and offered significant package by top 10 teams and a kid recruited by a mid tier program later in the process. There is eve a big difference in the top recruit at Maryland and the girl given the last spot in the same recruiting class.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We have D1 juniors fighting for playing time.


Impossible..... What school ?


Completely accurate on the girls side at 2-3 nassau county schools


Suffolk too - not always because the team is that good. More like the fact that just about anybody can give a verbal, doesn't mean they are one of the best players. Commits who barely see the field at mediocre programs.



Sounds to me like someone is jealous. "Just about anybody can give a verbal", really? I don't think that you have any idea how the recruiting process works. I will say that not all kids that are committed to play in college are equal. College programs are not equal either. There is a big difference between a top 10 - 20 D1 program and a middle of the road D1 program or any DII or DIII program (there are some very good players everywhere but they are the exception).

Try calling a top 20 coach and saying "hey, my daughter wants to commit. I heard that you will commit just about anybody". Let us know how that goes.

The top programs recruit the top players. That is how they stay at the top.
After the top players commit the top programs look to fill their slots with the next tier of player and on and on it goes.

The next tier programs do not lock up many of the top recruits, especially early. For example, Villanova, George Washiton, Binghamton, Quinnipiac, Lafayette etc... do not compete with North Carolina, Maryland, Virginia, Northwestern, Duke, Syracuse etc... for the "Top Recruits".

If you would like to know where your daughter stands ask yourself the following questions:

In relation to others from around the country in the same grad year, When Did She Start Getting Recruited?

What schools "identified her and actively pursued and recruited her"? (what schools made offers)

When was an offer made, what was the offer and what caliber school made the offer?

Big difference between a kid who is recruited early and offered significant package by top 10 teams and a kid recruited by a mid tier program later in the process. There is eve a big difference in the top recruit at Maryland and the girl given the last spot in the same recruiting class.


Relax early recruit dad. The comment was in response to "D1 juniors" - nobody said anything about top programs or top players. That's the whole point - and you helped to support the argument - that not all D1 recruits are created equal.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 03:44 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We have D1 juniors fighting for playing time.


Impossible..... What school ?


Completely accurate on the girls side at 2-3 nassau county schools


Suffolk too - not always because the team is that good. More like the fact that just about anybody can give a verbal, doesn't mean they are one of the best players. Commits who barely see the field at mediocre programs.



Sounds to me like someone is jealous. "Just about anybody can give a verbal", really? I don't think that you have any idea how the recruiting process works. I will say that not all kids that are committed to play in college are equal. College programs are not equal either. There is a big difference between a top 10 - 20 D1 program and a middle of the road D1 program or any DII or DIII program (there are some very good players everywhere but they are the exception).

Try calling a top 20 coach and saying "hey, my daughter wants to commit. I heard that you will commit just about anybody". Let us know how that goes.

The top programs recruit the top players. That is how they stay at the top.
After the top players commit the top programs look to fill their slots with the next tier of player and on and on it goes.

The next tier programs do not lock up many of the top recruits, especially early. For example, Villanova, George Washiton, Binghamton, Quinnipiac, Lafayette etc... do not compete with North Carolina, Maryland, Virginia, Northwestern, Duke, Syracuse etc... for the "Top Recruits".

If you would like to know where your daughter stands ask yourself the following questions:

In relation to others from around the country in the same grad year, When Did She Start Getting Recruited?

What schools "identified her and actively pursued and recruited her"? (what schools made offers)

When was an offer made, what was the offer and what caliber school made the offer?

Big difference between a kid who is recruited early and offered significant package by top 10 teams and a kid recruited by a mid tier program later in the process. There is eve a big difference in the top recruit at Maryland and the girl given the last spot in the same recruiting class.


It also matters what HS program you play for. There are D1 recruits at high to mid level programs at some schools who won't see much time until junior year. There are other D1 recruits to the same colleges who play for different HS, where lax isn't king, and those girls are starters from 8th grade and the star of the team.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 04:00 PM
What's wrong with going to quinnipiac Lafayette? You people are so hung up on having your kid on one of the top program rosters. You need to look at the big picture. What do they want and how much playing time will she get. My daughter wants Drexal because of their culinary program. I don't give a rats [lacrosse] about top lacrosse schools. She needs to be happy. But I forgot most people living through their kid.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 04:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
What's wrong with going to quinnipiac Lafayette? You people are so hung up on having your kid on one of the top program rosters. You need to look at the big picture. What do they want and how much playing time will she get. My daughter wants Drexal because of their culinary program. I don't give a rats [lacrosse] about top lacrosse schools. She needs to be happy. But I forgot most people living through their kid.


You miss the point. Nothing wrong with Drexel or any other school. I was only pointing out how somone was painting with a very broad brush. Making the comment that "anyone can give a verbal" implying that it is not indicative of the caliber of the player. I have one is not a big recruit, still trying to figure it all out but I am not worry about the studs. Good for the top players. Just can't stand listening to the bashing of the strong players and the early recruits. Most of the nonsense on here and on the sidelines is from jealous parents trying to trash others. I watch and I see who the strong players are good for them.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 05:04 PM
should an athlete take a DII significant offer over a DI low offer? Undecided major, wants the NYC location, first time away from home. Thanks
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 05:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
should an athlete take a DII significant offer over a DI low offer? Undecided major, wants the NYC location, first time away from home. Thanks


I think the right answer is to find the right school for your son or daughter rather than selecting a school based on lacrosse. Recognizing however that, if a school is offering substantial money, that is an important factor for many families and should clearly be a consideration.

Unfortunately, there are not many lacrosse programs in NYC itself: Manhattan and St. John's on the men's side and I think Manhattan plus Columbia on the women's side. In the NYC area there are many more options though.

With regard to major, I think most of us had no clue what our major would be when we were in college; maybe we knew that we were business, STEM, or liberal arts, but, very few knew precisely what our major would be. So I think it really comes down to academic fit, campus environment fit, location fit, size of class fit. The last, though not unimportant factor, should be lacrosse; not unimportant because this is the coach and group of people that your kid will establish their initial friendships in college and can influence your child's love or hate of the experience.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
should an athlete take a DII significant offer over a DI low offer? Undecided major, wants the NYC location, first time away from home. Thanks


I know you don't want to mention schools, but is there a big difference in academic reputation? If the money isn't make or break financially for you, I would go with the better academic school. Possible to name schools? From my point of view in the business world, many of the D2 schools don't hold up academically unless there is a specific program (nursing for example) where the school has a good reputation. Assume D1 school is not Columbia since they offer no academic money (and don't have a boy's program). I don't think D1 vs. D2 is the right dimension to think about this. I think it's which education can open more doors for your child in the future along with all the usual fit questions.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
only catholic school with that rule is Chammy. dom's , st Mary's , etc. all have freshman play


And St. A too.


And kellenberg


Just to clarify - St. A and Kellenberg do not allow freshmen?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
should an athlete take a DII significant offer over a DI low offer? Undecided major, wants the NYC location, first time away from home. Thanks


I know you don't want to mention schools, but is there a big difference in academic reputation? If the money isn't make or break financially for you, I would go with the better academic school. Possible to name schools? From my point of view in the business world, many of the D2 schools don't hold up academically unless there is a specific program (nursing for example) where the school has a good reputation. Assume D1 school is not Columbia since they offer no academic money (and don't have a boy's program). I don't think D1 vs. D2 is the right dimension to think about this. I think it's which education can open more doors for your child in the future along with all the usual fit questions.


Heis not interested in a career but which lacrosse school would afford him a better opportunity to be a summer club coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/05/16 09:43 PM
Thank you for your responses. Here is some more info: Adelphi/Mercy/Pace/Molloy have offered significant money and Pace/Mercy have new programs as well as fields and dorms. Coaches have been outstanding, and education based on students who attended are very good. Hofstra did not offer much but is DI, although the area looked scary and the coach was just ok. As far as education it seems ok, appears to be declining in recent years. Also dorms were very outdated. No interest in summer coaching, internship in NYC already lined up.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/06/16 01:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you for your responses. Here is some more info: Adelphi/Mercy/Pace/Molloy have offered significant money and Pace/Mercy have new programs as well as fields and dorms. Coaches have been outstanding, and education based on students who attended are very good. Hofstra did not offer much but is DI, although the area looked scary and the coach was just ok. As far as education it seems ok, appears to be declining in recent years. Also dorms were very outdated. No interest in summer coaching, internship in NYC already lined up.


Hofstra is definitely the most expensive but has the highest entry requirements. Then its Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and in last by a high margin is Mercy. It sounds like lacrosse might be swaying you to the 2 weakest schools.

Adelphi is always in the hunt for the D2 national championship while Hofstra is a top 50 D1 program. It really depends on what your kid wants academically, financially and athletically.

I am guessing your son could go to Molloy and Mercy for almost free, Adelphi and Pace would be in the middle and D1 Hofstra would still be the most expensive. If its not Hofstra I would go Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and then Mercy. Lacrosse level and acadmics line up in the same sequence.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/06/16 02:16 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you for your responses. Here is some more info: Adelphi/Mercy/Pace/Molloy have offered significant money and Pace/Mercy have new programs as well as fields and dorms. Coaches have been outstanding, and education based on students who attended are very good. Hofstra did not offer much but is DI, although the area looked scary and the coach was just ok. As far as education it seems ok, appears to be declining in recent years. Also dorms were very outdated. No interest in summer coaching, internship in NYC already lined up.


Hofstra is definitely the most expensive but has the highest entry requirements. Then its Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and in last by a high margin is Mercy. It sounds like lacrosse might be swaying you to the 2 weakest schools.

Adelphi is always in the hunt for the D2 national championship while Hofstra is a top 50 D1 program. It really depends on what your kid wants academically, financially and athletically.

I am guessing your son could go to Molloy and Mercy for almost free, Adelphi and Pace would be in the middle and D1 Hofstra would still be the most expensive. If its not Hofstra I would go Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and then Mercy. Lacrosse level and acadmics line up in the same sequence.


I think that advice has a LI slant to it. I think Pace is an excellent choice in this scenario. They have excellent business programs and connections in Westchester and NYC. They also have a vast amount of majors (Hofstra has more). I believe Pace graduation salaries are high than the LI's for one. Admittance might be slightly harder in the LI schools but end game is salary when you graduate

Pace Adelphi Hofstra Mercy (Molloy depends what you want)
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/06/16 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you for your responses. Here is some more info: Adelphi/Mercy/Pace/Molloy have offered significant money and Pace/Mercy have new programs as well as fields and dorms. Coaches have been outstanding, and education based on students who attended are very good. Hofstra did not offer much but is DI, although the area looked scary and the coach was just ok. As far as education it seems ok, appears to be declining in recent years. Also dorms were very outdated. No interest in summer coaching, internship in NYC already lined up.


Hofstra is definitely the most expensive but has the highest entry requirements. Then its Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and in last by a high margin is Mercy. It sounds like lacrosse might be swaying you to the 2 weakest schools.

Adelphi is always in the hunt for the D2 national championship while Hofstra is a top 50 D1 program. It really depends on what your kid wants academically, financially and athletically.

I am guessing your son could go to Molloy and Mercy for almost free, Adelphi and Pace would be in the middle and D1 Hofstra would still be the most expensive. If its not Hofstra I would go Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and then Mercy. Lacrosse level and acadmics line up in the same sequence.


I think that advice has a LI slant to it. I think Pace is an excellent choice in this scenario. They have excellent business programs and connections in Westchester and NYC. They also have a vast amount of majors (Hofstra has more). I believe Pace graduation salaries are high than the LI's for one. Admittance might be slightly harder in the LI schools but end game is salary when you graduate

Pace Adelphi Hofstra Mercy (Molloy depends what you want)

Pace is a big business school but they let in kids starting with a 900 sat score. If your kid wants business in NYC area there are a ton of better academic choices. Sounds like the only reason they are being considered is because of lacrosse and in most cases if you are picking based on a sport its the wrong choice unless its an elite program. We have lived it....good luck!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/06/16 10:28 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you for your responses. Here is some more info: Adelphi/Mercy/Pace/Molloy have offered significant money and Pace/Mercy have new programs as well as fields and dorms. Coaches have been outstanding, and education based on students who attended are very good. Hofstra did not offer much but is DI, although the area looked scary and the coach was just ok. As far as education it seems ok, appears to be declining in recent years. Also dorms were very outdated. No interest in summer coaching, internship in NYC already lined up.


Hofstra is definitely the most expensive but has the highest entry requirements. Then its Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and in last by a high margin is Mercy. It sounds like lacrosse might be swaying you to the 2 weakest schools.

Adelphi is always in the hunt for the D2 national championship while Hofstra is a top 50 D1 program. It really depends on what your kid wants academically, financially and athletically.

I am guessing your son could go to Molloy and Mercy for almost free, Adelphi and Pace would be in the middle and D1 Hofstra would still be the most expensive. If its not Hofstra I would go Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and then Mercy. Lacrosse level and acadmics line up in the same sequence.


I think that advice has a LI slant to it. I think Pace is an excellent choice in this scenario. They have excellent business programs and connections in Westchester and NYC. They also have a vast amount of majors (Hofstra has more). I believe Pace graduation salaries are high than the LI's for one. Admittance might be slightly harder in the LI schools but end game is salary when you graduate

Pace Adelphi Hofstra Mercy (Molloy depends what you want)

Pace is a big business school but they let in kids starting with a 900 sat score. If your kid wants business in NYC area there are a ton of better academic choices. Sounds like the only reason they are being considered is because of lacrosse and in most cases if you are picking based on a sport its the wrong choice unless its an elite program. We have lived it....good luck!!


Hate to break it to you, but you can get into Michigan with 2.7 and 900 on SAT as recruited Lax player. Much lower for Football and BBall.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/06/16 11:49 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you for your responses. Here is some more info: Adelphi/Mercy/Pace/Molloy have offered significant money and Pace/Mercy have new programs as well as fields and dorms. Coaches have been outstanding, and education based on students who attended are very good. Hofstra did not offer much but is DI, although the area looked scary and the coach was just ok. As far as education it seems ok, appears to be declining in recent years. Also dorms were very outdated. No interest in summer coaching, internship in NYC already lined up.


Hofstra is definitely the most expensive but has the highest entry requirements. Then its Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and in last by a high margin is Mercy. It sounds like lacrosse might be swaying you to the 2 weakest schools.

Adelphi is always in the hunt for the D2 national championship while Hofstra is a top 50 D1 program. It really depends on what your kid wants academically, financially and athletically.

I am guessing your son could go to Molloy and Mercy for almost free, Adelphi and Pace would be in the middle and D1 Hofstra would still be the most expensive. If its not Hofstra I would go Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and then Mercy. Lacrosse level and acadmics line up in the same sequence.


I think that advice has a LI slant to it. I think Pace is an excellent choice in this scenario. They have excellent business programs and connections in Westchester and NYC. They also have a vast amount of majors (Hofstra has more). I believe Pace graduation salaries are high than the LI's for one. Admittance might be slightly harder in the LI schools but end game is salary when you graduate

Pace Adelphi Hofstra Mercy (Molloy depends what you want)

Pace is a big business school but they let in kids starting with a 900 sat score. If your kid wants business in NYC area there are a ton of better academic choices. Sounds like the only reason they are being considered is because of lacrosse and in most cases if you are picking based on a sport its the wrong choice unless its an elite program. We have lived it....good luck!!


Hate to break it to you, but you can get into Michigan with 2.7 and 900 on SAT as recruited Lax player. Much lower for Football and BBall.


Huge difference. A stupid kid can get into a great college if they are athletically gifted (just watch final 4 press conferences). A regular student needs a 1300 for Michigan. But why in the world would a gifted athlete want to go to a school beneath them like Pace?

Athletics should get the athlete into a stretch school in a perfect world
Posted By: Anonymous High School Lax - 01/06/16 11:49 PM
Any projections on how massapequa will do this year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 12:24 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any projections on how massapequa will do this year?


They will be down, Syosset should easily win county
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 01:30 AM
Yes Pequa only has Tierney.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 02:38 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any projections on how massapequa will do this year?


They will be down, Syosset should easily win county


Smithtown East Vs West Islip

Syosset Vs Massapequa

Syosset Vs Smithtown East

Smithtown East
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Thank you for your responses. Here is some more info: Adelphi/Mercy/Pace/Molloy have offered significant money and Pace/Mercy have new programs as well as fields and dorms. Coaches have been outstanding, and education based on students who attended are very good. Hofstra did not offer much but is DI, although the area looked scary and the coach was just ok. As far as education it seems ok, appears to be declining in recent years. Also dorms were very outdated. No interest in summer coaching, internship in NYC already lined up.


Hofstra is definitely the most expensive but has the highest entry requirements. Then its Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and in last by a high margin is Mercy. It sounds like lacrosse might be swaying you to the 2 weakest schools.

Adelphi is always in the hunt for the D2 national championship while Hofstra is a top 50 D1 program. It really depends on what your kid wants academically, financially and athletically.

I am guessing your son could go to Molloy and Mercy for almost free, Adelphi and Pace would be in the middle and D1 Hofstra would still be the most expensive. If its not Hofstra I would go Adelphi, Molloy, Pace and then Mercy. Lacrosse level and acadmics line up in the same sequence.


I think that advice has a LI slant to it. I think Pace is an excellent choice in this scenario. They have excellent business programs and connections in Westchester and NYC. They also have a vast amount of majors (Hofstra has more). I believe Pace graduation salaries are high than the LI's for one. Admittance might be slightly harder in the LI schools but end game is salary when you graduate

Pace Adelphi Hofstra Mercy (Molloy depends what you want)

Pace is a big business school but they let in kids starting with a 900 sat score. If your kid wants business in NYC area there are a ton of better academic choices. Sounds like the only reason they are being considered is because of lacrosse and in most cases if you are picking based on a sport its the wrong choice unless its an elite program. We have lived it....good luck!!


Hate to break it to you, but you can get into Michigan with 2.7 and 900 on SAT as recruited Lax player. Much lower for Football and BBall.


Huge difference. A stupid kid can get into a great college if they are athletically gifted (just watch final 4 press conferences). A regular student needs a 1300 for Michigan. But why in the world would a gifted athlete want to go to a school beneath them like Pace?

Athletics should get the athlete into a stretch school in a perfect world


Actually, that's incredibly flawed thinking. You are really doing a kid a disservice by putting them in a situation where failure is nearly inevitable in a number of ways. Putting a student in an academic situation they are "stretching" to compete in, is never going to yield a positive result. Add a 30+ hr a week job into the mix (LAX) and that kid's in trouble. Further, the kid that stretches to get into MI, will never get into the Ross school of Business, you need to apply once admitted a year or two later. There's no way that kid will have the 3.9-4.0 needed. No special treatment for athletes. He will come out with a degree in Sociology or Poly Sci. Not very marketable, even with a Blue M on the degree. However, the Pace kid that comes out with Degree in Accounting will have a job before he Graduates. Accounting program has 100% placement. Bolstered by the huge non-athlete Alumni base in the NY area. Good Luck.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 03:29 PM
that is a well thought out and articulated post. compare to the previous a- hole who calls kids stupid if they have not too stellar grades. who the [lacrosse] are you to judge?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 03:43 PM
Why would anyone want to attend the 25th best national university in the country in Ann arbor with some of the best athletics across all sports vs going to Pace at #192 and getting in a minivan from downtown Manhatten to travel to Westchester to play. Although Pace is connected in NYC I'm pretty sure a Michigan graduate gets the same job
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 04:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would anyone want to attend the 25th best national university in the country in Ann arbor with some of the best athletics across all sports vs going to Pace at #192 and getting in a minivan from downtown Manhatten to travel to Westchester to play. Although Pace is connected in NYC I'm pretty sure a Michigan graduate gets the same job


Guess you didn't realize the campus on Westchester is pretty nice and not a bad college town during the year. Why are you so down on Pace?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 04:32 PM
We are actually headed back after visiting the schools. I know this may not be the popular answer and although no decision has been made Mercy is at the top of the list. The business program is amazing, and the vibe of this new school was very energetic. Gorgeous campus and beautiful safe town, train takes you from campus to grand central station. Pace was very nice as well and second choice at this point. As a parent I of course like the safest place and I see real potential in the school. 2 more schools to see in Jersey. Thanks for the interesting opinions, greatly appreciated
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 05:08 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
We are actually headed back after visiting the schools. I know this may not be the popular answer and although no decision has been made Mercy is at the top of the list. The business program is amazing, and the vibe of this new school was very energetic. Gorgeous campus and beautiful safe town, train takes you from campus to grand central station. Pace was very nice as well and second choice at this point. As a parent I of course like the safest place and I see real potential in the school. 2 more schools to see in Jersey. Thanks for the interesting opinions, greatly appreciated


I happen to like Mercy. They have grown so much. Have had friends who went there and are doing better then some who went to top schools (not a back handed statement) you get that anywhere; You get out what you put in. Does have nice views of the river, I am sure they/you will like it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 07:02 PM
If your kid is really serious about business drop lacrosse and try to get him into Fordham.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 08:13 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would anyone want to attend the 25th best national university in the country in Ann arbor with some of the best athletics across all sports vs going to Pace at #192 and getting in a minivan from downtown Manhatten to travel to Westchester to play. Although Pace is connected in NYC I'm pretty sure a Michigan graduate gets the same job


It's one thing to be "let into" MIchigan, it's entirely another to get out! That has to be earned in the classroom. The average kid non-athlete getting into that school has a 95-98 GPA and 2000+ sats.... If your kid is substantially below that, he will not survive academically.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would anyone want to attend the 25th best national university in the country in Ann arbor with some of the best athletics across all sports vs going to Pace at #192 and getting in a minivan from downtown Manhatten to travel to Westchester to play. Although Pace is connected in NYC I'm pretty sure a Michigan graduate gets the same job


It's one thing to be "let into" MIchigan, it's entirely another to get out! That has to be earned in the classroom. The average kid non-athlete getting into that school has a 95-98 GPA and 2000+ sats.... If your kid is substantially below that, he will not survive academically.


Not true ... I have a son who was a 80-85 high school student w 1800s. He went to a top 25 school and is doing just fine. There is a lot of support at these schools, and it is a lot harder getting in to these places than staying there. Not to mention that some kids mature academically later in terms of effort, time management etc. Certainly something to think about, but it is nowhere near as extreme as your post implies.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 09:02 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would anyone want to attend the 25th best national university in the country in Ann arbor with some of the best athletics across all sports vs going to Pace at #192 and getting in a minivan from downtown Manhatten to travel to Westchester to play. Although Pace is connected in NYC I'm pretty sure a Michigan graduate gets the same job


It's one thing to be "let into" MIchigan, it's entirely another to get out! That has to be earned in the classroom. The average kid non-athlete getting into that school has a 95-98 GPA and 2000+ sats.... If your kid is substantially below that, he will not survive academically.


Not true ... I have a son who was a 80-85 high school student w 1800s. He went to a top 25 school and is doing just fine. There is a lot of support at these schools, and it is a lot harder getting in to these places than staying there. Not to mention that some kids mature academically later in terms of effort, time management etc. Certainly something to think about, but it is nowhere near as extreme as your post implies.
Finally some sanity. I cant believe some nice schools like Mercy, Molloy and Pace are being compared to some of the top schools in the country. The other post was right look to Columbia, Fordham and Baruch if you wanta business school in the city
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/07/16 09:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would anyone want to attend the 25th best national university in the country in Ann arbor with some of the best athletics across all sports vs going to Pace at #192 and getting in a minivan from downtown Manhatten to travel to Westchester to play. Although Pace is connected in NYC I'm pretty sure a Michigan graduate gets the same job


It's one thing to be "let into" MIchigan, it's entirely another to get out! That has to be earned in the classroom. The average kid non-athlete getting into that school has a 95-98 GPA and 2000+ sats.... If your kid is substantially below that, he will not survive academically.


Not true ... I have a son who was a 80-85 high school student w 1800s. He went to a top 25 school and is doing just fine. There is a lot of support at these schools, and it is a lot harder getting in to these places than staying there. Not to mention that some kids mature academically later in terms of effort, time management etc. Certainly something to think about, but it is nowhere near as extreme as your post implies.
Finally some sanity. I cant believe some nice schools like Mercy, Molloy and Pace are being compared to some of the top schools in the country. The other post was right look to Columbia, Fordham and Baruch if you wanta business school in the city


Would you rather graduate with a business degree from Fordham or choose business at Mercy in order to play lax? To me those options are not even close.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/08/16 02:06 AM
I would rather kill myself, then read this topic anymore.
Posted By: B_O_T_C Re: High School Lax - 01/08/16 02:17 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would rather kill myself, then read this topic anymore.


tsk tsk
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/08/16 03:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I would rather kill myself, then read this topic anymore.


Poor chouce of words.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/08/16 12:03 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would anyone want to attend the 25th best national university in the country in Ann arbor with some of the best athletics across all sports vs going to Pace at #192 and getting in a minivan from downtown Manhatten to travel to Westchester to play. Although Pace is connected in NYC I'm pretty sure a Michigan graduate gets the same job


It's one thing to be "let into" MIchigan, it's entirely another to get out! That has to be earned in the classroom. The average kid non-athlete getting into that school has a 95-98 GPA and 2000+ sats.... If your kid is substantially below that, he will not survive academically.


Not true ... I have a son who was a 80-85 high school student w 1800s. He went to a top 25 school and is doing just fine. There is a lot of support at these schools, and it is a lot harder getting in to these places than staying there. Not to mention that some kids mature academically later in terms of effort, time management etc. Certainly something to think about, but it is nowhere near as extreme as your post implies.


Sure he is...
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/08/16 01:11 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why would anyone want to attend the 25th best national university in the country in Ann arbor with some of the best athletics across all sports vs going to Pace at #192 and getting in a minivan from downtown Manhatten to travel to Westchester to play. Although Pace is connected in NYC I'm pretty sure a Michigan graduate gets the same job


It's one thing to be "let into" MIchigan, it's entirely another to get out! That has to be earned in the classroom. The average kid non-athlete getting into that school has a 95-98 GPA and 2000+ sats.... If your kid is substantially below that, he will not survive academically.


Not true ... I have a son who was a 80-85 high school student w 1800s. He went to a top 25 school and is doing just fine. There is a lot of support at these schools, and it is a lot harder getting in to these places than staying there. Not to mention that some kids mature academically later in terms of effort, time management etc. Certainly something to think about, but it is nowhere near as extreme as your post implies.


Sure he is...


Everyone can thump their chests about how great these local schools are but in reality they are C+/B academic schools that people are pumping up so they feel good about going there to play lacrosse. It might be the perfect fit for some but don't try to make into what its not. There is a place for everyone to play.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/08/16 02:47 PM
Sorry, I hope no one took me serious?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/08/16 05:34 PM
I think a previous poster said it best, getting into a top academic school in ADDITION to keeping up with a 30+ hour a week athletic commitment is not something every student is capable of. Having been through the process with one of my own, I encourage looking at the last 3 years of student athlete graduation rate (the "newer" programs regardless of what division can be a great find) also look at retention of returning players. I did not see any chest thumping lol, but rather interesting, intelligent discussion about exploring all options. Job placement and internships are also huge-unless the student wants to spend summers as a lifeguard or lacrosse coach. Some of the D2 schools mentioned have excellent connections in the business arena.

Bottom line, students should take the time to visit schools, do overnights. Parents- allow your student to lead the way and use their instinct. THEY are the ones going to college, your job is to support and encourage them. There will always be the jealous nay sayer ("it's a low D1" or "it's not a good academic school") they are often the parents who shipped their kid around and did not get an offer, or got an offer and the kid will be back home with an excuse within a year.

Good luck to everyone, let's continue to support the sport and our student athletes.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/11/16 11:18 PM
Did Sayville ever fill the Varsity coaching vacancy? That was one heck of a cluster and dominated this board for two months. Rocky Point guy, just wondering who we'll be facing this year. Thanks.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/12/16 03:06 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did Sayville ever fill the Varsity coaching vacancy? That was one heck of a cluster and dominated this board for two months. Rocky Point guy, just wondering who we'll be facing this year. Thanks.


I think it said more than a few pages back that they promoted the assistant that the year before they were trying to get rid of because of budget cuts. Ironic that the coach who fought to keep the assistant gets replaced by the same. Thats politics for ya.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/12/16 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did Sayville ever fill the Varsity coaching vacancy? That was one heck of a cluster and dominated this board for two months. Rocky Point guy, just wondering who we'll be facing this year. Thanks.


I think it said more than a few pages back that they promoted the assistant that the year before they were trying to get rid of because of budget cuts. Ironic that the coach who fought to keep the assistant gets replaced by the same. Thats politics for ya.


Let sleeping dogs lie... that topic is dead and buried.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 02:35 PM
Any predictions on a Dark Horse in Suffolk A?

Smithtown East is the favorite. Northport, West Islip and Connetquot will challenge. Smithtown West and Ward Melville will struggle to make final four.

Can anyone surprise us this year?

Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 02:42 PM
Whitman will make final four . They have a great goalie.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 03:36 PM
Why West Islip?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 04:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why West Islip?


Maybe they were talking about the girls.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 05:06 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why West Islip?


Maybe they were talking about the girls.


Nope, talking boys.

Some good athletes and very good coaching will help WI be competitive.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 06:42 PM
I don't think so.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 07:04 PM
Why does the poster think Ward melville will struggle?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 08:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whitman will make final four . They have a great goalie.


"great" is thrown around too easily, last "great" goalie I saw on LI was Adam Ghitelman - lots and lots of good ones and the Whitman kid is one of them but I don't think he is good enough to make a good team a championship team
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 09:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whitman will make final four . They have a great goalie.


"great" is thrown around too easily, last "great" goalie I saw on LI was Adam Ghitelman - lots and lots of good ones and the Whitman kid is one of them but I don't think he is good enough to make a good team a championship team


What year is the Whitman goalie? How is his supporting cast? Can they compete with the top 3 or 4 teams in the league?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 09:47 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whitman will make final four . They have a great goalie.


"great" is thrown around too easily, last "great" goalie I saw on LI was Adam Ghitelman - lots and lots of good ones and the Whitman kid is one of them but I don't think he is good enough to make a good team a championship team


What year is the Whitman goalie? How is his supporting cast? Can they compete with the top 3 or 4 teams in the league?


Goalie is good. Too bad their fogo left for prep school! Key piece.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 09:58 PM
Whitman is NO ELITE TEAM. have A FEW VERY GOOD PLAYERS. I WOULD THINK GETTING TO QUARTERS IS GOAL, THEN MAYBE A UPSET. top 4 team they are not.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 10:01 PM
Any predictions on know who will be in the CHSAA AAA Championship game? LOL
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/16/16 10:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why does the poster think Ward melville will struggle?


Because they lost their best players. Still have some strong ones, just not too many elite.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/17/16 12:15 AM
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/17/16 12:20 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why does the poster think Ward melville will struggle?


Because they lost their best players. Still have some strong ones, just not too many elite.


Sometimes it's more about playing as a team than watching your "elite" players try and do it all!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/17/16 01:03 AM
Suffolk County B 2016

Any thoughts/opinions regarding how Suffolk B will shake out?

Seedings

1. SWR
2. Miller Place
3. Comsewogue
4. Mt Sinai
5. Sayville
6. ESM
7. Islip
8. Bayport-BP
9. Rocky Point
10. Kings Park
11. Harborfields
12. East Islip
13. Hauppague
14. Glenn
15. West Babylon
16. WestHampton
17. Bellport
18. EastHampton
19. Deer Park

Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/17/16 01:26 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any predictions on know who will be in the CHSAA AAA Championship game? LOL


Who cares, league is weak!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/17/16 03:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why does the poster think Ward melville will struggle?


Because they lost their best players. Still have some strong ones, just not too many elite.


Sometimes it's more about playing as a team than watching your "elite" players try and do it all!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why does the poster think Ward melville will struggle?


Because they lost their best players. Still have some strong ones, just not too many elite.


Sometimes it's more about playing as a team than watching your "elite" players try and do it all!!!


They didn't have any "elite" players before the 2013 season either because they didn't play on the "elite" club teams and get a lot of press. Not saying they will be a great team, but don't count them out. WM will be in the mix as usual. There are a lot of great players
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/17/16 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why does the poster think Ward melville will struggle?


Because they lost their best players. Still have some strong ones, just not too many elite.


Sometimes it's more about playing as a team than watching your "elite" players try and do it all!!!
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why does the poster think Ward melville will struggle?


Because they lost their best players. Still have some strong ones, just not too many elite.


Sometimes it's more about playing as a team than watching your "elite" players try and do it all!!!


They didn't have any "elite" players before the 2013 season either because they didn't play on the "elite" club teams and get a lot of press. Not saying they will be a great team, but don't count them out. WM will be in the mix as usual. There are a lot of great players
I agree there are a lot of great players that don't go to Jake Reed or get written up by Ty Xanders. Also, teams that play together often times beat teams with a collection of great individual players.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/17/16 04:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whitman will make final four . They have a great goalie.


"great" is thrown around too easily, last "great" goalie I saw on LI was Adam Ghitelman - lots and lots of good ones and the Whitman kid is one of them but I don't think he is good enough to make a good team a championship team


You mean the "great" goalie who when last played on LI cost his team a chance at the Steinfeld Cup this summer? - by himself shooting on Drew Adams, one of the best goalies in the MLL, when an attack man was right there to do the job right? That "great" goalie? Do these kids a favor and don't compare them to Ghitelman. He _cost_ his team a championship.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/18/16 12:51 AM
How will Locust Valley do this year?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/18/16 01:22 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How will Locust Valley do this year?


Who?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/18/16 02:16 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How will Locust Valley do this year?


Who?

Oh I know who they are

the team that lost to Mineola - the team that lost to cold spring harbor... who won states but... wait for it, lost to Syosset.

Seriously how will Locust Valley or Mineola be?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/18/16 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Whitman will make final four . They have a great goalie.


"great" is thrown around too easily, last "great" goalie I saw on LI was Adam Ghitelman - lots and lots of good ones and the Whitman kid is one of them but I don't think he is good enough to make a good team a championship team


You mean the "great" goalie who when last played on LI cost his team a chance at the Steinfeld Cup this summer? - by himself shooting on Drew Adams, one of the best goalies in the MLL, when an attack man was right there to do the job right? That "great" goalie? Do these kids a favor and don't compare them to Ghitelman. He _cost_ his team a championship.


really????? you are bringing up a beer league game?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/18/16 06:34 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any projections on how massapequa will do this year?


They will be down, Syosset should easily win county


Smithtown East Vs West Islip

Syosset Vs Massapequa

Syosset Vs Smithtown East

Smithtown East


Smithtown East are the 1990 version of the Buffalo Bills , always a brides maid never the bride. Syosset wins the Island again.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/18/16 03:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Any projections on how massapequa will do this year?


They will be down, Syosset should easily win county


Smithtown East Vs West Islip

Syosset Vs Massapequa

Syosset Vs Smithtown East

Smithtown East


Smithtown East are the 1990 version of the Buffalo Bills , always a brides maid never the bride. Syosset wins the Island again.


Don't get too cocky, I don't see Syosset on the state title list either. Talk about not showing up for the big game. Victor from Section 5 is going to win "A" anyway.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/18/16 08:29 PM
Nassau Class C predictions?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/18/16 09:25 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
How will Locust Valley do this year?


Who?

Oh I know who they are

the team that lost to Mineola - the team that lost to cold spring harbor... who won states but... wait for it, lost to Syosset.

Seriously how will Locust Valley or Mineola be?


CSH Mineola and LV could be the tops of Nas.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/18/16 09:32 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Nassau Class C predictions?


CSH will lose to Syosset in the regular season
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/18/16 11:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 01:17 PM
Heard differ
sounds like way above the level of Sayville coach will be brought in and the tree will be rattled , from youth to varsity .


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 01:48 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard differ
sounds like way above the level of Sayville coach will be brought in and the tree will be rattled , from youth to varsity .


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.


So??? Who then??
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 03:44 PM
They should bring the Sayville coach to Sachem East. Sounds like a bad situation between players and coaches.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard differ
sounds like way above the level of Sayville coach will be brought in and the tree will be rattled , from youth to varsity .


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.


So??? Who then??


Maybe a daddy who wants to bring up their middle school kid to varsity? Gotta whip that program into shape for the arrival of jr!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 03:59 PM
East just let the best coach they had go to North.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 04:21 PM
Coaches don't drive all over the island to coach for $6 grand. If its a convenient location then maybe.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 04:41 PM
Rotanz?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 04:52 PM
You may have hit it right on the head.. there will be a lot of cross contamination with kids from other schools suddenly appearing in RP. If you don't think this is possible think again.



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard differ
sounds like way above the level of Sayville coach will be brought in and the tree will be rattled , from youth to varsity .


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.


So??? Who then??


Maybe a daddy who wants to bring up their middle school kid to varsity? Gotta whip that program into shape for the arrival of jr!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
You may have hit it right on the head.. there will be a lot of cross contamination with kids from other schools suddenly appearing in RP. If you don't think this is possible think again.



Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Heard differ
sounds like way above the level of Sayville coach will be brought in and the tree will be rattled , from youth to varsity .


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.


So??? Who then??


Maybe a daddy who wants to bring up their middle school kid to varsity? Gotta whip that program into shape for the arrival of jr!


That is just not going to happen. You are kidding yourself. But it is a good try, I bet plenty of the folks on here will buy it.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 05:56 PM
I wouldn't count it out!

As long as his kid is playing at that school he will be on that sideline one way or another period! The only ones not buying it are the ones who pay for it on 91 !

Your kidding yourself if you think its not going to happen.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 06:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wouldn't count it out!

As long as his kid is playing at that school he will be on that sideline one way or another period! The only ones not buying it are the ones who pay for it on 91 !

Your kidding yourself if you think its not going to happen.


Really?? He's going to give up his D1 College Lacrosse job for a $6K HS job? You are a special kind of stupid!
If, and IF, they make a change, it would be Rotanz, since he works there.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 07:07 PM
Wasn't Rotanz just named Head Coach of the new men's lacrosse program at St. Joseph's college on L.I.? Why would he leave that program?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wouldn't count it out!

As long as his kid is playing at that school he will be on that sideline one way or another period! The only ones not buying it are the ones who pay for it on 91 !

Your kidding yourself if you think its not going to happen.


Really?? He's going to give up his D1 College Lacrosse job for a $6K HS job? You are a special kind of stupid!
If, and IF, they make a change, it would be Rotanz, since he works there.


Spallina doesn't have the time to coach a varsity program, nor would he want to. That's just silly. His kid doesn't even need to play varsity. Keep in mind, he still coaches his 2023 twins' 91 team and his daughters 2025 91 AND Yellow Jackets teams. Oh yeah, and a national top 10 girls D1 program AND the returning MLL champs. Lay off the pipe, bruh.

And Rotanz took the head coaching job at St. Joseph's college to start their lax program. He won't have the time either; especially since he's building the program from jumpstreet.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 07:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn't Rotanz just named Head Coach of the new men's lacrosse program at St. Joseph's college on L.I.? Why would he leave that program?


He was, my bad. I should check MY facts before calling someone else stupid! lol
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 07:23 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wouldn't count it out!

As long as his kid is playing at that school he will be on that sideline one way or another period! The only ones not buying it are the ones who pay for it on 91 !

Your kidding yourself if you think its not going to happen.


Really?? He's going to give up his D1 College Lacrosse job for a $6K HS job? You are a special kind of stupid!
If, and IF, they make a change, it would be Rotanz, since he works there.


Rumor had it that they were moving into Three Village school district so he could be closer to SB and it is a better overall lax program.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 07:25 PM
Really ? You seem to have all the answers,and a bit enthusiastic but your way off and really clueless, so clueless that your out of touch for a botc reader.
Rotanz has been retired from teaching, Google his name and you will see he is the st Josephs college head men's coach.
Get with the times. He's not giving up his D1 coaching job which in English it's a collegiate coaching career . Don't underestimate capabilities.


quote=Anonymous]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wouldn't count it out!

As long as his kid is playing at that school he will be on that sideline one way or another period! The only ones not buying it are the ones who pay for it on 91 !

Your kidding yourself if you think its not going to happen.


Really?? He's going to give up his D1 College Lacrosse job for a $6K HS job? You are a special kind of stupid!
If, and IF, they make a change, it would be Rotanz, since he works there.
[/quote]
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 07:33 PM
Rocky Point Eagles-OUT!!!!!
Rocky Point CRUSH-IN!!!!
Glad I don't live in that town-DAM IT!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 07:54 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rocky Point Eagles-OUT!!!!!
Rocky Point CRUSH-IN!!!!
Glad I don't live in that town-DAM IT!!


Unfortunately, RP can't even put together a 5th grade PAL team, and he's got two 5th grade kids! Sorry, don't see it happening.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 08:07 PM

That's Hilarious. . And in the workings, they do practice there often, so half the battle is done. Lol


Originally Posted by Anonymous
Rocky Point Eagles-OUT!!!!!
Rocky Point CRUSH-IN!!!!
Glad I don't live in that town-DAM IT!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 09:51 PM
The Westchester Varsity landscape will be wide open this year. Bronxville is back but a little weaker, Fox Lane has been improving each year, John Jay should be strong and Yorktown will likely see a drop off (although people have been saying that every few years since 1990)....

Any thoughts on Section finalists: A/B/C?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/19/16 10:08 PM
Bronxville Pleasantville Briarcliff will all be interesting.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/20/16 11:40 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really ? You seem to have all the answers,and a bit enthusiastic but your way off and really clueless, so clueless that your out of touch for a botc reader.
Rotanz has been retired from teaching, Google his name and you will see he is the st Josephs college head men's coach.
Get with the times. He's not giving up his D1 coaching job which in English it's a collegiate coaching career . Don't underestimate capabilities.


quote=Anonymous]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wouldn't count it out!

As long as his kid is playing at that school he will be on that sideline one way or another period! The only ones not buying it are the ones who pay for it on 91 !

Your kidding yourself if you think its not going to happen.


Really?? He's going to give up his D1 College Lacrosse job for a $6K HS job? You are a special kind of stupid!
If, and IF, they make a change, it would be Rotanz, since he works there.
[/quote]

Take it easy, professional BOTC poster. I said that "tongue and cheek" because the one poster wrote "Rotanz" just prior and the other said JS. Sorry to get you all excited!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/20/16 02:10 PM
I think we are seeing some of the down county programs getting much stronger. Could be a year where some of the perennially strong programs get challenged.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/20/16 02:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wouldn't count it out!

As long as his kid is playing at that school he will be on that sideline one way or another period! The only ones not buying it are the ones who pay for it on 91 !

Your kidding yourself if you think its not going to happen.


Wouldn't be the first time an RP daddy wormed his way onto the boys sideline to coach his kids. A couple years ago a certain former star player and current BOE member (and AD at a neighboring district - conflict of interest?) was a volunteer coach when his twins were seniors. Funny, don't think I saw him again after they graduated.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/20/16 05:52 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really ? You seem to have all the answers,and a bit enthusiastic but your way off and really clueless, so clueless that your out of touch for a botc reader.
Rotanz has been retired from teaching, Google his name and you will see he is the st Josephs college head men's coach.
Get with the times. He's not giving up his D1 coaching job which in English it's a collegiate coaching career . Don't underestimate capabilities.


quote=Anonymous]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wouldn't count it out!

As long as his kid is playing at that school he will be on that sideline one way or another period! The only ones not buying it are the ones who pay for it on 91 !

Your kidding yourself if you think its not going to happen.


Really?? He's going to give up his D1 College Lacrosse job for a $6K HS job? You are a special kind of stupid!
If, and IF, they make a change, it would be Rotanz, since he works there.


Take it easy, professional BOTC poster. I said that "tongue and cheek" because the one poster wrote "Rotanz" just prior and the other said JS. Sorry to get you all excited!
[/quote]

The correct term is "tongue IN cheek". There is nothing exciting about the use of bad grammar from a snarky lacrosse dad.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/20/16 06:33 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Really ? You seem to have all the answers,and a bit enthusiastic but your way off and really clueless, so clueless that your out of touch for a botc reader.
Rotanz has been retired from teaching, Google his name and you will see he is the st Josephs college head men's coach.
Get with the times. He's not giving up his D1 coaching job which in English it's a collegiate coaching career . Don't underestimate capabilities.


quote=Anonymous]
Originally Posted by Anonymous
I wouldn't count it out!

As long as his kid is playing at that school he will be on that sideline one way or another period! The only ones not buying it are the ones who pay for it on 91 !

Your kidding yourself if you think its not going to happen.


Really?? He's going to give up his D1 College Lacrosse job for a $6K HS job? You are a special kind of stupid!
If, and IF, they make a change, it would be Rotanz, since he works there.


Take it easy, professional BOTC poster. I said that "tongue and cheek" because the one poster wrote "Rotanz" just prior and the other said JS. Sorry to get you all excited!


The correct term is "tongue IN cheek". There is nothing exciting about the use of bad grammar from a snarky lacrosse dad. [/quote]
It got you fired up keyboard cowboy!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/20/16 10:54 PM
I think we should all meet out for a drink, that would be fun!! Keyboard Cowboy Lol that is a good one.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/20/16 11:26 PM
"tongue in cheek" is correct, but it is a colloquialism and not grammar. Also, it should be "poor grammar" not "bad grammar."
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/21/16 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"tongue in cheek" is correct, but it is a colloquialism and not grammar. Also, it should be "poor grammar" not "bad grammar."


Who says the people on this forum are not very smart. Will I see you at the next Mensa International Conference?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/21/16 08:08 PM
meet where??? what is Mensa?? is that a new team with 4 and 5 year hold backs from Baltimore???
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/21/16 09:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
meet where??? what is Mensa?? is that a new team with 4 and 5 year hold backs from Baltimore???


lets meet in one of the corners on Chaminade's field
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
meet where??? what is Mensa?? is that a new team with 4 and 5 year hold backs from Baltimore???


lets meet in one of the corners on Chaminade's field


Ummm. that's kinda weird...... Are we going to discuss the last Mensa meeting or have a pugilistic competition.......Mom
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 04:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.


I heard that Sayville Girls Varsity is bring up 2 7th graders. One of them being the deleted daughter! Talk about earning your spot! Bringing 7th graders up to varsity is a joke. That team is done!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.


I heard that Sayville Girls Varsity is bring up 2 7th graders. One of them being the Deleted! Talk about earning your spot! Bringing 7th graders up to varsity is a joke. That team is done!

How does a boys coaching rumor/question get turned into the bashing of two 12 year old girls? You're sick.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 05:18 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.


I heard that Sayville Girls Varsity is bring up 2 7th graders. One of them being the Deleted! Talk about earning your spot! Bringing 7th graders up to varsity is a joke. That team is done!

How does a boys coaching rumor/question get turned into the bashing of two 12 year old girls? You're sick.


That didn't sound like the poster was bashing specific girls. Maybe knocking the program for the decision though. It happens.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.


I heard that Sayville Girls Varsity is bring up 2 7th graders. One of them being the Deleted daughter! Talk about earning your spot! Bringing 7th graders up to varsity is a joke. That team is done!


This happens every year. Last year ESM was getting killed for bringing up girls, didn't seem to hurt them on the way to state champs. Why don't you go complain on the 2020 commits to Syracuse thread, at least that is a unique situation. Girls going to varsity happens all over all the time.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.


I heard that Sayville Girls Varsity is bring up 2 7th graders. One of them being the varsity football coach's daughter! Talk about earning your spot! Bringing 7th graders up to varsity is a joke. That team is done!

How does a boys coaching rumor/question get turned into the bashing of two 12 year old girls? You're sick.


That didn't sound like the poster was bashing specific girls. Maybe knocking the program for the decision though. It happens.


If its like the boys football program they will get all kinds of press for playing in Div 3 like the boys football team who plays nobody but is in Newsday everyday. Must have a tight connection with Newsday
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 06:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.


I heard that Sayville Girls Varsity is bring up 2 7th graders. One of them being the varsity football coach's daughter! Talk about earning your spot! Bringing 7th graders up to varsity is a joke. That team is done!


This happens every year. Last year ESM was getting killed for bringing up girls, didn't seem to hurt them on the way to state champs. Why don't you go complain on the 2020 commits to Syracuse thread, at least that is a unique situation. Girls going to varsity happens all over all the time.


The ESM kids went to JV not Varsity
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 06:35 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Dont know the truth of this but Hearing Rocky Point may have new high profile coach lined up on the boys side after this season. New AD coming in.


RP is hoping to bring in the former Sayville Head Coach.


I heard that Sayville Girls Varsity is bring up 2 7th graders. One of them being the varsity football coach's daughter! Talk about earning your spot! Bringing 7th graders up to varsity is a joke. That team is done!

How does a boys coaching rumor/question get turned into the bashing of two 12 year old girls? You're sick.


That didn't sound like the poster was bashing specific girls. Maybe knocking the program for the decision though. It happens.


If its like the boys football program they will get all kinds of press for playing in Div 3 like the boys football team who plays nobody but is in Newsday everyday. Must have a tight connection with Newsday

So your problem isn't really with the girl being brought up, you have a problem with the football program and Sayville getting ink in the paper so you would make a comment about the coaches daughter?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 06:55 PM
They have a great program and the best Long Island football prospect in a decade. That is why they are in Newsday!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 07:30 PM
Since tryouts aren't for another 2 months how would anyone know about 7th graders on varsity . Sounds like pot stirring to me. How about we don't attack or disparage 12 year old girls .
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 07:34 PM
Here'so a thought if your daughter gets beat out for a spot on varsity by a 7th grader maybe it's time to try softball
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/22/16 08:30 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
They have a great program and the best Long Island football prospect in a decade. That is why they are in Newsday!


Yea....ok....Dad. Im sure we will read about it in Newsday again and again
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/23/16 01:59 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
meet where??? what is Mensa?? is that a new team with 4 and 5 year hold backs from Baltimore???


lets meet in one of the corners on Chaminade's field


Ummm. that's kinda weird...... Are we going to discuss the last Mensa meeting or have a pugilistic competition.......Mom


Pugilistic , no rather a riddle like; Who says you can't cut corners at chaminade
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/23/16 04:20 PM
There are no "tryouts" for Varsity, the coaches have already identified which underclass athletes they are bringing up and notified them so they can work out with the team through the winter.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/23/16 05:06 PM
Why don't people just worry about themselves and their own kids. I personally think that most of the complaints and issues are driven by parents that have unmotivated kids, and they watch the competition move further and further away. Just love your kid...not bash others.

This is not just an athletic things...it is acedemically as well.

These are the same parents who were happy that every kid gets a medal at the end of the season. Because they can lie to there own kid that they were great. Then stop to get them a slurpie or ice cream cone for them on way home. How about start parenting with reality, not leading your kid down a blind hallway. Please read the book Outliers....it all happens for a
Reason...like 10,000 hours..

"High achievers don't want to be around low achievers,
And low achievers are terrified of high achievers" ...not just kids....but mainly PARENTS....
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/23/16 05:31 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Why don't people just worry about themselves and their own kids. I personally think that most of the complaints and issues are driven by parents that have unmotivated kids, and they watch the competition move further and further away. Just love your kid...not bash others.

This is not just an athletic things...it is acedemically as well.

These are the same parents who were happy that every kid gets a medal at the end of the season. Because they can lie to there own kid that they were great. Then stop to get them a slurpie or ice cream cone for them on way home. How about start parenting with reality, not leading your kid down a blind hallway. Please read the book Outliers....it all happens for a
Reason...like 10,000 hours..

"High achievers don't want to be around low achievers,
And low achievers are terrified of high achievers" ...not just kids....but mainly PARENTS....


Ok, so it sounds like you have everything all figured out. Must disagree with most of what you've said though. There is so much more involved with youth sports the's dsys. When you are a high achiever due to your hard work, you absolutely worry about your competition. That's how you prepare. I have also seen politics screw many fine, deserving athletes. Not my son, but others I know. Seen it happen many times.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/23/16 06:07 PM
High achievers are to be commended no doubt, but please remind your high achiever that their crap stinks like everyone elses and lacrosse like the workplace is a team game. Selfish me first people is not who you want to surround yourself with at work or on the field. High achievers should have people following them as they lead by example but nobody likes or follows a me first attitude, sorry
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/23/16 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
High achievers are to be commended no doubt, but please remind your high achiever that their crap stinks like everyone elses and lacrosse like the workplace is a team game. Selfish me first people is not who you want to surround yourself with at work or on the field. High achievers should have people following them as they lead by example but nobody likes or follows a me first attitude, sorry


Well, you definitely have it wrong again. My son ,although a high achiever is also very humble. Loves to hear people speak highly of him, but never brags and gets angry if any family members talk about how good he is. He, as well as many other top players I know, are fantastic leaders, but they also need to be educated as to who the competition is, and how to maintain their position in the pecking order and not become complacent. And as for the 10,000 hours, that was surpassed years ago!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/23/16 09:21 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
High achievers are to be commended no doubt, but please remind your high achiever that their crap stinks like everyone elses and lacrosse like the workplace is a team game. Selfish me first people is not who you want to surround yourself with at work or on the field. High achievers should have people following them as they lead by example but nobody likes or follows a me first attitude, sorry


Well, you definitely have it wrong again. My son ,although a high achiever is also very humble. Loves to hear people speak highly of him, but never brags and gets angry if any family members talk about how good he is. He, as well as many other top players I know, are fantastic leaders, but they also need to be educated as to who the competition is, and how to maintain their position in the pecking order and not become complacent. And as for the 10,000 hours, that was surpassed years ago!


If your kid practices 3 hours per day, 333 days a year(takes of every other Sunday) it adds up to 1000 hours in a year. They do this from age ten to age twenty they get to the outliers majic number of 10,000 hours. That is a ridiculous amount for anyone except much older professionals. Unless you son is now at the later stages of a college career the 10,000 hours surpassed long ago doesn't sound likely.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/23/16 09:50 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
High achievers are to be commended no doubt, but please remind your high achiever that their crap stinks like everyone elses and lacrosse like the workplace is a team game. Selfish me first people is not who you want to surround yourself with at work or on the field. High achievers should have people following them as they lead by example but nobody likes or follows a me first attitude, sorry


Well, you definitely have it wrong again. My son ,although a high achiever is also very humble. Loves to hear people speak highly of him, but never brags and gets angry if any family members talk about how good he is. He, as well as many other top players I know, are fantastic leaders, but they also need to be educated as to who the competition is, and how to maintain their position in the pecking order and not become complacent. And as for the 10,000 hours, that was surpassed years ago!


If your kid practices 3 hours per day, 333 days a year(takes of every other Sunday) it adds up to 1000 hours in a year. They do this from age ten to age twenty they get to the outliers majic number of 10,000 hours. That is a ridiculous amount for anyone except much older professionals. Unless you son is now at the later stages of a college career the 10,000 hours surpassed long ago doesn't sound likely.


Yep that's about right, put in a solid 5 today while others playing in snow!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/23/16 10:23 PM
Like my dad used to tell me there is a start
To perfection, but never an end...as no one is perfect.

He would say practice like your number 2 and you might some day be number one. Be humble...but be confident. There is a fine line to this...sometimes we are way to critical Of kids that have a little "edge" to them....sometimes viewed as cocky....personally I like the kids that have that confidence...but not a jerk...

Thoughts on this

Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/23/16 10:55 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Like my dad used to tell me there is a start
To perfection, but never an end...as no one is perfect.

He would say practice like your number 2 and you might some day be number one. Be humble...but be confident. There is a fine line to this...sometimes we are way to critical Of kids that have a little "edge" to them....sometimes viewed as cocky....personally I like the kids that have that confidence...but not a jerk...

Thoughts on this



Must agree! There is a lot of competition at the top. There will be good days and bad days. When my son has a bad day he doesn't cry and blame, he goes back to work. These kids learn to be humble and respect each other. This is good!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/23/16 11:58 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are no "tryouts" for Varsity, the coaches have already identified which underclass athletes they are bringing up and notified them so they can work out with the team through the winter.


There are tryouts for Varsity at my kids school. And all players 9-12 that want to tryout have been at the weekly practices since the fall and continue until tryouts.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/24/16 04:11 AM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
High achievers are to be commended no doubt, but please remind your high achiever that their crap stinks like everyone elses and lacrosse like the workplace is a team game. Selfish me first people is not who you want to surround yourself with at work or on the field. High achievers should have people following them as they lead by example but nobody likes or follows a me first attitude, sorry


Well, you definitely have it wrong again. My son ,although a high achiever is also very humble. Loves to hear people speak highly of him, but never brags and gets angry if any family members talk about how good he is. He, as well as many other top players I know, are fantastic leaders, but they also need to be educated as to who the competition is, and how to maintain their position in the pecking order and not become complacent. And as for the 10,000 hours, that was surpassed years ago!


If your kid practices 3 hours per day, 333 days a year(takes of every other Sunday) it adds up to 1000 hours in a year. They do this from age ten to age twenty they get to the outliers majic number of 10,000 hours. That is a ridiculous amount for anyone except much older professionals. Unless you son is now at the later stages of a college career the 10,000 hours surpassed long ago doesn't sound likely.


Yep that's about right, put in a solid 5 today while others playing in snow!


Liar, liar pants on fire! This pile of BS is bigger than the pile of snow in front of the house.

And if by some miracle this was even half true, you should be a parent and let the kid build a snow fort.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: High School Lax - 01/25/16 08:20 PM
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
There are no "tryouts" for Varsity, the coaches have already identified which underclass athletes they are bringing up and notified them so they can work out with the team through the winter.


There are tryouts for Varsity at my kids school. And all players 9-12 that want to tryout have been at the weekly practices since the fall and continue until tryouts.


I think there are tryouts at all schools. Whether you know it or not. The underclassmen and even MS are showing up to those winter workouts to display what they have and if they mesh with the upperclassmen.

I guess you will find out if there are tryouts when your son or daughter make JV or varsity. And if you are a MS player you will know by the 3rd or 5th day not sure which is it if you made a HS team or will head back down to MS.