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question: My son is a very good player on his town team. I am considering having him try out for travel this fall. I like the 91 teams, of course being on Crush is his ultimate (I don't even know if they have tryouts), but I would be happy with Titanium or Express Terps. These seem to be the best, also possibly Legacy. What are the chances of a new kid making a team like Crush or Terps? Is it possible? Even Titanium and Legacy seem like they may be difficult even with a decent tryout. Any feedback would be appreciated

Originally Posted by Anonymous

question: My son is a very good player on his town team. I am considering having him try out for travel this fall. I like the 91 teams, of course being on Crush is his ultimate (I don't even know if they have tryouts), but I would be happy with Titanium or Express Terps. These seem to be the best, also possibly Legacy. What are the chances of a new kid making a team like Crush or Terps? Is it possible? Even Titanium and Legacy seem like they may be difficult even with a decent tryout. Any feedback would be appreciated

What town are you from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

question: My son is a very good player on his town team. I am considering having him try out for travel this fall. I like the 91 teams, of course being on Crush is his ultimate (I don't even know if they have tryouts), but I would be happy with Titanium or Express Terps. These seem to be the best, also possibly Legacy. What are the chances of a new kid making a team like Crush or Terps? Is it possible? Even Titanium and Legacy seem like they may be difficult even with a decent tryout. Any feedback would be appreciated

Unless spallina invited you zero shot for crush. Prob the same goes for channy and terps.

In all fairness if he has not been approached already he has no spot on these teams. If he is only entering club ball for the first time, pick another team. He has had no exposure or experience at the club level. Let him settle in. If he is as good as you think he will be approached and get invited by the mentioned teams. Otherwise he will be valued and grow within another organization. Its win win for all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

question: My son is a very good player on his town team. I am considering having him try out for travel this fall. I like the 91 teams, of course being on Crush is his ultimate (I don't even know if they have tryouts), but I would be happy with Titanium or Express Terps. These seem to be the best, also possibly Legacy. What are the chances of a new kid making a team like Crush or Terps? Is it possible? Even Titanium and Legacy seem like they may be difficult even with a decent tryout. Any feedback would be appreciated

Legacy would be the best bet.
What town are you from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

question: My son is a very good player on his town team. I am considering having him try out for travel this fall. I like the 91 teams, of course being on Crush is his ultimate (I don't even know if they have tryouts), but I would be happy with Titanium or Express Terps. These seem to be the best, also possibly Legacy. What are the chances of a new kid making a team like Crush or Terps? Is it possible? Even Titanium and Legacy seem like they may be difficult even with a decent tryout. Any feedback would be appreciated

What town are you from?

3V

Originally Posted by Anonymous

question: My son is a very good player on his town team. I am considering having him try out for travel this fall. I like the 91 teams, of course being on Crush is his ultimate (I don't even know if they have tryouts), but I would be happy with Titanium or Express Terps. These seem to be the best, also possibly Legacy. What are the chances of a new kid making a team like Crush or Terps? Is it possible? Even Titanium and Legacy seem like they may be difficult even with a decent tryout. Any feedback would be appreciated

What town are you from?

3V

3V 2020 plays together all summer. That would be a bold move to break away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

question: My son is a very good player on his town team. I am considering having him try out for travel this fall. I like the 91 teams, of course being on Crush is his ultimate (I don't even know if they have tryouts), but I would be happy with Titanium or Express Terps. These seem to be the best, also possibly Legacy. What are the chances of a new kid making a team like Crush or Terps? Is it possible? Even Titanium and Legacy seem like they may be difficult even with a decent tryout. Any feedback would be appreciated

What town are you from?

3V

Titanium just lost to town team in Stony Brook, and you are on a very good town team. Why would you spend a couple thousand dollars to be on a team that isn't much better than your Ward Melville team.

Titanium is a very strong team and if he shows well could be placed. Once he tries out and you find out what team he makes, ask around about the coach, playing time, practices etc. travel is a big commitment and you want to make sure you get a good first taste, because without doing your research, you can end up on a team or in a club that is not a good fit. He probably has friends that play travel- they may be able to help recommend a team or club. GL to your son.

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

Thanks for the comments. I know 3V is a great program, I just worry going into the recruiting years that they may not be competitive enough. Seems like the way the recruiting is done is changing. The good travel teams get much more high level exposure. I see that the kids committing this year 2017 grad year are pretty much all on travel teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

question: My son is a very good player on his town team. I am considering having him try out for travel this fall. I like the 91 teams, of course being on Crush is his ultimate (I don't even know if they have tryouts), but I would be happy with Titanium or Express Terps. These seem to be the best, also possibly Legacy. What are the chances of a new kid making a team like Crush or Terps? Is it possible? Even Titanium and Legacy seem like they may be difficult even with a decent tryout. Any feedback would be appreciated

Unless spallina invited you zero shot for crush. Prob the same goes for channy and terps.

Not 100% sure you are right on the Terps piece.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

So Legacy was great this year, but they want to change a "bunch" of players.
How do you know "many" Titanium kids are trying out for Legacy?
And in the Legacy/DD merger discussion, a dad says Zummo told him they have received so many calls from kids looking to come to them.
If you actually are a dad from the team, I guess you feel your kid has a secure spot and none of the players in this wave of kids that are supposedly coming to tryout will take his spot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

Titanium kids ARE NOT trying out for Legacy, unless they are the team scrubs. It would be taking a step backwards!

All teams will be rotating players this Fall. It happens EVERY SINGLE SEASON! If Titanium loses players to Legacy, they will just reload at tryouts. My suggestion to all families is go to multiple tryouts and make a determination of where you are getting the most bang for the buck. Obviously there are organizations that charge more than 2000+ per summer, and I would say the majority charge between 1000 - 2000. If you watch the tryouts carefully, you can easily figure out where your son would fit on the depth chart.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

Titanium kids ARE NOT trying out for Legacy, unless they are the team scrubs. It would be taking a step backwards!

Titanium just lost to a town team. If you were so great, how did that happen?
Stop talking like you are the Crush. And if you lose the big attackman to G.C., you will certainly drop.

When trying out for teams this fall- ask below
Bottom line is - Did your son improve as year progressed.
Did team improve as season progressed
Did team over achieve or under achieve compared to talent level.
That is what makes good coaching.
If you answer no to above find another team.
If your son is buried on depth chart on crush he is not improving.
Take it from experience- My older son play for a premier team but did not become a lacrosse player until he played for b+ team and became the player to get the ball too.
Best thing that happen was switching teams.
Funny thing is now they want him back( after cutting him) but he wants nothing to do with his old team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When trying out for teams this fall- ask below
Bottom line is - Did your son improve as year progressed.
Did team improve as season progressed
Did team over achieve or under achieve compared to talent level.
That is what makes good coaching.
If you answer no to above find another team.
If your son is buried on depth chart on crush he is not improving.
Take it from experience- My older son play for a premier team but did not become a lacrosse player until he played for b+ team and became the player to get the ball too.
Best thing that happen was switching teams.
Funny thing is now they want him back( after cutting him) but he wants nothing to do with his old team

What do you do if your kid is not the go to kid on B, ...Then what am I paying for..

If he is getting more playing time on b-team- bite the bullet forget about status symbol and have him play for b-team

I SAW THE TITANIUM "BIG ATTACKMAN" NOT IMPRESSE, SLOW AND CANT MOVE, THE OTHER QUCIK ATHLETIC ATTACKMAN SHOWED MORE TALENT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

Titanium kids ARE NOT trying out for Legacy, unless they are the team scrubs. It would be taking a step backwards!

Titanium just lost to a town team. If you were so great, how did that happen?
Stop talking like you are the Crush. And if you lose the big attackman to G.C., you will certainly drop.

We will see....

stop talking about kids directly. or tell us who your kid is so we can all discuss him since you are OK with people talking about 11 year olds on a website.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

question: My son is a very good player on his town team. I am considering having him try out for travel this fall. I like the 91 teams, of course being on Crush is his ultimate (I don't even know if they have tryouts), but I would be happy with Titanium or Express Terps. These seem to be the best, also possibly Legacy. What are the chances of a new kid making a team like Crush or Terps? Is it possible? Even Titanium and Legacy seem like they may be difficult even with a decent tryout. Any feedback would be appreciated

What town are you from?

3V

Rotanz is starting a travel group. Maybe go to that tryout.

Terps 2020 have and will add skilled players to improve their roster. If your son is very good, have him try out for this and other programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Terps 2020 have and will add skilled players to improve their roster. If your son is very good, have him try out for this and other programs.

Who are they getting rid of? Or are they going to try to beat 33 roster ed players on the other express team

The idiotic remarks don't benefit anybody. Most teams experience a level of attrition from one season to the next. My point was, don't assume a spot is not available on any team. Have your son try out for multiple teams. If he's that good, some program will make room. There's not a lot of downside, outside of the tryout fees.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Terps 2020 have and will add skilled players to improve their roster. If your son is very good, have him try out for this and other programs.

Who are they getting rid of? Or are they going to try to beat 33 roster ed players on the other express team

Your kid....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

stop talking about kids directly. or tell us who your kid is so we can all discuss him since you are OK with people talking about 11 year olds on a website.

Agree 100%.....too much of this nonsense on this site. Really gross to think of an adult anonymously bullying a 6th grader. Get a life!

I cannot believe my eyes when I read parents calling 11/12 year olds "scrubs" and talking about specific kids at their positions. Maybe that's why Titanium kids want to leave - Obviously not much team bonding over there.

Taking '91 and Express out of the conversation. Let's just assume they are the 2 best 2020 teams on the Island and leave that conversation to another topic (PLEASE!!!). Who do people rate #3 - #12 in this age group? Because I have no idea.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taking '91 and Express out of the conversation. Let's just assume they are the 2 best 2020 teams on the Island and leave that conversation to another topic (PLEASE!!!). Who do people rate #3 - #12 in this age group? Because I have no idea.

Legacy, 91 Titanium, and True Blue are the next 3. Don't think they have all played head to head but all 3 are A to A- teams. After them we are dipping into the B division.

so you are saying that your depth chart for 2020 would be

1-Crush
2-Express
3,4,5 (not in order) Legacy, 91 Titanium, True Blue

I would like other perspectives of the top 10 if anyone wants to jump in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so you are saying that your depth chart for 2020 would be

1-Crush
2-Express
3,4,5 (not in order) Legacy, 91 Titanium, True Blue

I would like other perspectives of the top 10 if anyone wants to jump in.

I agree with those 5, and that there is a pretty big drop to the next team or teams.
6-10 would include Express B, Outlaws A, Vipers, Jesters and maybe fl$ or Tomahawks.

I would say:

3)Legacy
4)Titanium
5)True Blue

Legacy went 2 and 1 against titanium. Very close

I thought 3V did not allow their boys to play club? Did that rule change?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so you are saying that your depth chart for 2020 would be

1-Crush
2-Express
3,4,5 (not in order) Legacy, 91 Titanium, True Blue

I would like other perspectives of the top 10 if anyone wants to jump in.

Are you actually serious about this? LOL

Yes, I would like to have my son tryout for 2 or 3 teams and it would be helpful

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought 3V did not allow their boys to play club? Did that rule change?

No, you must make a choice, can't do both.

That is not true. Their rules recently changed and have agreed to allow them to do both.

AT HS level, they allow. Before that , they do not allow.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That is not true. Their rules recently changed and have agreed to allow them to do both.

Some towns with strong high school programs start to put more pressure on kids to play with the town team in 7th grade. They bring the high school coach to help influence decisions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so you are saying that your depth chart for 2020 would be

1-Crush
2-Express
3,4,5 (not in order) Legacy, 91 Titanium, True Blue

I would like other perspectives of the top 10 if anyone wants to jump in.

Are you actually serious about this? LOL

Give it a try. This will take up 5 pages of responses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so you are saying that your depth chart for 2020 would be

1-Crush
2-Express
3,4,5 (not in order) Legacy, 91 Titanium, True Blue

I would like other perspectives of the top 10 if anyone wants to jump in.

Are you actually serious about this? LOL

If your son is that good, these are the clubs he should try out for- Express, 91, Legacy and True Blue. Pick 2 or 3 try outs and have fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so you are saying that your depth chart for 2020 would be

1-Crush
2-Express
3,4,5 (not in order) Legacy, 91 Titanium, True Blue

I would like other perspectives of the top 10 if anyone wants to jump in.

Are you actually serious about this? LOL

If your son is that good, these are the clubs he should try out for- Express, 91, Legacy and True Blue. Pick 2 or 3 try outs and have fun.

For this grade yes. It would be close to impossible to get on the Crush or Terps. I'm sure Legacy A, True Blue A and Titanium will look to add capable players. It sounds like Legacy and Titanium have mostly Suffolk players and TB has mostly Nassau players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so you are saying that your depth chart for 2020 would be

1-Crush
2-Express
3,4,5 (not in order) Legacy, 91 Titanium, True Blue

I would like other perspectives of the top 10 if anyone wants to jump in.

Are you actually serious about this? LOL

If your son is that good, these are the clubs he should try out for- Express, 91, Legacy and True Blue. Pick 2 or 3 try outs and have fun.

Or if you want to get on a solid 2020 B team there are the Outlaws, jesters, Vipers or Tomahawks. There also is a pretty good team out east called E3, if you out near the Hamptons.

I think you should check your facts. It's my understanding that the rules recently changed to allow them to play out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so you are saying that your depth chart for 2020 would be

1-Crush
2-Express
3,4,5 (not in order) Legacy, 91 Titanium, True Blue

I would like other perspectives of the top 10 if anyone wants to jump in.

Are you actually serious about this? LOL

So

If your son is that good, these are the clubs he should try out for- Express, 91, Legacy and True Blue. Pick 2 or 3 try outs and have fun.

Or if you want to get on a solid 2020 B team there are the Outlaws, jesters, Vipers or Tomahawks. There also is a pretty good team out east called E3, if you out near the Hamptons.

If they are all B , there are only 5 A teams on LI?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so you are saying that your depth chart for 2020 would be

1-Crush
2-Express
3,4,5 (not in order) Legacy, 91 Titanium, True Blue

I would like other perspectives of the top 10 if anyone wants to jump in.

Are you actually serious about this? LOL

So

If your son is that good, these are the clubs he should try out for- Express, 91, Legacy and True Blue. Pick 2 or 3 try outs and have fun.

Or if you want to get on a solid 2020 B team there are the Outlaws, jesters, Vipers or Tomahawks. There also is a pretty good team out east called E3, if you out near the Hamptons.

If they are all B , there are only 5 A teams on LI?

Yes- I would say there are really 5 TRUE A teams that can compete with one another. I think the first two are true AA teams and can take most AA, A teams from out of state as well. We are talking about 1 grade. I think to say we have 5 strong A is pretty good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so you are saying that your depth chart for 2020 would be

1-Crush
2-Express
3,4,5 (not in order) Legacy, 91 Titanium, True Blue

I would like other perspectives of the top 10 if anyone wants to jump in.

Are you actually serious about this? LOL

So

If your son is that good, these are the clubs he should try out for- Express, 91, Legacy and True Blue. Pick 2 or 3 try outs and have fun.

Or if you want to get on a solid 2020 B team there are the Outlaws, jesters, Vipers or Tomahawks. There also is a pretty good team out east called E3, if you out near the Hamptons.

If they are all B , there are only 5 A teams on LI?

Considering that most of the other teams enter B brackets, they answer that question themselves.

Ok, I think:
Crush: best in country
Terps: very competitive with top teams
All the other tip teams off LI
The rest (Legacy, titanium, etc) you need to play top competition like looneys, crabs. Then you can claim A status. We don't want to hear how you beat jesters and Outlaws

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, I think:
Crush: best in country
Terps: very competitive with top teams
All the other tip teams off LI
The rest (Legacy, titanium, etc) you need to play top competition like looneys, crabs. Then you can claim A status. We don't want to hear how you beat jesters and Outlaws

It was stated at the start that those 2 teams are obviously above the next group of teams on LI right now. No one is debating that. So those 2 teams are A, the next 3 teams are B and the rest are C or D. Does that make you feel better?

I think you might be able to consider titanium and legacy a teams. They just need to stop hiding. Especially legacy. Ignorance is not bliss in lax

fl$ entered A bracket in all four tournaments they played beating the Tomahawk purple (A) team to win Crimson Classic in Boston and finishing 3rd in MD 3D tournament behind Crush and Looney's who they lost to in a tight game. Other than Crush, and Terps only other team I thought better than them on LI was Legacy due to F/O player. By transitive property probably Titanium as we'll but who knows...season is over and all the decks are being reshuffled anyway... See you next year...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ entered A bracket in all four tournaments they played beating the Tomahawk purple (A) team to win Crimson Classic in Boston and finishing 3rd in MD 3D tournament behind Crush and Looney's who they lost to in a tight game. Other than Crush, and Terps only other team I thought better than them on LI was Legacy due to F/O player. By transitive property probably Titanium as we'll but who knows...season is over and all the decks are being reshuffled anyway... See you next year...

You lost to the Jesters who obviously are a B team in your own tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ entered A bracket in all four tournaments they played beating the Tomahawk purple (A) team to win Crimson Classic in Boston and finishing 3rd in MD 3D tournament behind Crush and Looney's who they lost to in a tight game. Other than Crush, and Terps only other team I thought better than them on LI was Legacy due to F/O player. By transitive property probably Titanium as we'll but who knows...season is over and all the decks are being reshuffled anyway... See you next year...

You lost to the Jesters who obviously are a B team in your own tournament.

Lol. Oh yea. And that tournament. Jesters were not bad team but certainly need to add that to resume when placing team with elite teams.

True. They played very poorly that morning. Agreed. A one goal loss to Patriot was another poor outing...

So on the season their losses were to Crush, looney's, Patriot, Legacy, and, um Jesters... 19-5 (no B brackets).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ entered A bracket in all four tournaments they played beating the Tomahawk purple (A) team to win Crimson Classic in Boston and finishing 3rd in MD 3D tournament behind Crush and Looney's who they lost to in a tight game. Other than Crush, and Terps only other team I thought better than them on LI was Legacy due to F/O player. By transitive property probably Titanium as we'll but who knows...season is over and all the decks are being reshuffled anyway... See you next year...

You lost to the Jesters who obviously are a B team in your own tournament.

Lol. Oh yea. And that tournament. Jesters were not bad team but certainly need to add that to resume when placing team with elite teams.

How many kids were on that team? It looked like there were around 15 players on their sideline during the game when we played them. That's a lot of kids to give playing time to.

24--equal rotation for all the lines, though shift duration sometimes varied due to circumstance of the game--no set m/u or m/d till the last two tournaments either. All kids learned which was positive--but could obviously affect results--18-24 not equal or even close to 1-6... Positive experience though a few less kids and a few more numbers would enhanced...kids were happy though so who is Dad to complain...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24--equal rotation for all the lines, though shift duration sometimes varied due to circumstance of the game--no set m/u or m/d till the last two tournaments either. All kids learned which was positive--but could obviously affect results--18-24 not equal or even close to 1-6... Positive experience though a few less kids and a few more numbers would enhanced...kids were happy though so who is Dad to complain...

Sounds like you feel your kid is in the 1-6 group.
Given how short these tournament games are, having that many kids on a team has to be rough. That's a lot of kids and parents to keep happy.

That's a great read, yes. At this stage both me and my son were content with it though. For the most part, nice kids and parents. Having been through this grind 9th grade is where org 1st and then team matters depending on what the realistic goals/aspirations/opportunities are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24--equal rotation for all the lines, though shift duration sometimes varied due to circumstance of the game--no set m/u or m/d till the last two tournaments either. All kids learned which was positive--but could obviously affect results--18-24 not equal or even close to 1-6... Positive experience though a few less kids and a few more numbers would enhanced...kids were happy though so who is Dad to complain...

Forgive me.....but do you mean there were a max of 6 quality players on the team and that everyone else was not equal or close? Or are you saying there were 6 strong, 6 very weak and then everyone else? Sorry for the inquisition, but thinking of having my kid try out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

24--equal rotation for all the lines, though shift duration sometimes varied due to circumstance of the game--no set m/u or m/d till the last two tournaments either. All kids learned which was positive--but could obviously affect results--18-24 not equal or even close to 1-6... Positive experience though a few less kids and a few more numbers would enhanced...kids were happy though so who is Dad to complain...

Sounds like you feel your kid is in the 1-6 group.
Given how short these tournament games are, having that many kids on a team has to be rough. That's a lot of kids and parents to keep happy.

20 to 24 is the deal anywhere. Come July you could use more when playing 4 games in 90 degree weather.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's a great read, yes. At this stage both me and my son were content with it though. For the most part, nice kids and parents. Having been through this grind 9th grade is where org 1st and then team matters depending on what the realistic goals/aspirations/opportunities are.

With the amount of money they get per player, I think they would make enough to survive if they kept 20 or 21 on a team. What did they have 10 middies?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's a great read, yes. At this stage both me and my son were content with it though. For the most part, nice kids and parents. Having been through this grind 9th grade is where org 1st and then team matters depending on what the realistic goals/aspirations/opportunities are.

With the amount of money they get per player, I think they would make enough to survive if they kept 20 or 21 on a team. What did they have 10 middies?

Forget the money. Can't play with 20 in summer.

2 goalie
9 middies
LSM
Fogo
5/6 attack
5/6 defense

23 to 24 is needed when they are older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's a great read, yes. At this stage both me and my son were content with it though. For the most part, nice kids and parents. Having been through this grind 9th grade is where org 1st and then team matters depending on what the realistic goals/aspirations/opportunities are.

With the amount of money they get per player, I think they would make enough to survive if they kept 20 or 21 on a team. What did they have 10 middies?

Forget the money. Can't play with 20 in summer.

2 goalie
9 middies
LSM
Fogo
5/6 attack
5/6 defense

23 to 24 is needed when they are older.

You do not need 3 lines of middies for 44 minute running time games. Especially if you use LSMs and gave a FOGO.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's a great read, yes. At this stage both me and my son were content with it though. For the most part, nice kids and parents. Having been through this grind 9th grade is where org 1st and then team matters depending on what the realistic goals/aspirations/opportunities are.

With the amount of money they get per player, I think they would make enough to survive if they kept 20 or 21 on a team. What did they have 10 middies?

Forget the money. Can't play with 20 in summer.

2 goalie
9 middies
LSM
Fogo
5/6 attack
5/6 defense

23 to 24 is needed when they are older.

You do not need 3 lines of middies for 44 minute running time games. Especially if you use LSMs and gave a FOGO.

Agree....look at some of the successful teams also. They often show up with significantly less than 24 kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's a great read, yes. At this stage both me and my son were content with it though. For the most part, nice kids and parents. Having been through this grind 9th grade is where org 1st and then team matters depending on what the realistic goals/aspirations/opportunities are.

With the amount of money they get per player, I think they would make enough to survive if they kept 20 or 21 on a team. What did they have 10 middies?

Forget the money. Can't play with 20 in summer.

2 goalie
9 middies
LSM
Fogo
5/6 attack
5/6 defense

23 to 24 is needed when they are older.

I totally disagree. We had 22 players on our 2020 A team team and with injuries played 19 or 20 players often. It was perfect. The tournament games are so short. Getting playing time for 24 or 25 kids in those running time games is crazy.

As a parent of a fl$ player I'm just curious why all the haters ? We had an up and down season but our boys had fun, grew as a team and individual players and while we may not have racked up numerous championships we played in the A brackets of every tournament we played in against the best competition available. There are issues with any team but people stay with fl$ for a reason. These are kids you are all talking about. Please don't forget it. Looking forward to tryouts. Good luck to everybody no matter what team you choose.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's a great read, yes. At this stage both me and my son were content with it though. For the most part, nice kids and parents. Having been through this grind 9th grade is where org 1st and then team matters depending on what the realistic goals/aspirations/opportunities are.

With the amount of money they get per player, I think they would make enough to survive if they kept 20 or 21 on a team. What did they have 10 middies?

Too many nmiddies. I wouldn't pay 3 plus thousand all in for short shifts. Also assume that man up unit is first line so even less playing time.

Forget the money. Can't play with 20 in summer.

2 goalie
9 middies
LSM
Fogo
5/6 attack
5/6 defense

23 to 24 is needed when they are older.

I totally disagree. We had 22 players on our 2020 A team team and with injuries played 19 or 20 players often. It was perfect. The tournament games are so short. Getting playing time for 24 or 25 kids in those running time games is crazy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a parent of a fl$ player I'm just curious why all the haters ? We had an up and down season but our boys had fun, grew as a team and individual players and while we may not have racked up numerous championships we played in the A brackets of every tournament we played in against the best competition available. There are issues with any team but people stay with fl$ for a reason. These are kids you are all talking about. Please don't forget it. Looking forward to tryouts. Good luck to everybody no matter what team you choose.

The conversation was about how many players are on a team. No one said anything negative about any kids. I am glad that fl$ works for you. However, I would bet most parents feel that 24 or 25 players on a team is too many to get ample playing time for everyone. In addition, the parents of the better kids on the team would be especially unhappy with that many.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a parent of a fl$ player I'm just curious why all the haters ? We had an up and down season but our boys had fun, grew as a team and individual players and while we may not have racked up numerous championships we played in the A brackets of every tournament we played in against the best competition available. There are issues with any team but people stay with fl$ for a reason. These are kids you are all talking about. Please don't forget it. Looking forward to tryouts. Good luck to everybody no matter what team you choose.

The conversation was about how many players are on a team. No one said anything negative about any kids. I am glad that fl$ works for you. However, I would bet most parents feel that 24 or 25 players on a team is too many to get ample playing time for everyone. In addition, the parents of the better kids on the team would be especially unhappy with that many.

That's why everyone is lucky the parents don't get to make roster sizes or decisions. 18 to 20 and you are in big trouble when you have 3 games on 95 degree day in July. Or if someone gets hurt. I good coach will figure out how to balance playing time and win games. Especially as they get older and you have specialist. Fogo, LSM etc

I totally agree being the parent of the post who enjoyed our 2020 fl$ season. 12 middies and a roster of 24 is a concern of all those that played last year. We al hope that issue will be addressed. The pros definitely outweighed the cons and look forward to another season of growth on a team with a great group of kids. Hope to make it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a parent of a fl$ player I'm just curious why all the haters ? We had an up and down season but our boys had fun, grew as a team and individual players and while we may not have racked up numerous championships we played in the A brackets of every tournament we played in against the best competition available. There are issues with any team but people stay with fl$ for a reason. These are kids you are all talking about. Please don't forget it. Looking forward to tryouts. Good luck to everybody no matter what team you choose.

The conversation was about how many players are on a team. No one said anything negative about any kids. I am glad that fl$ works for you. However, I would bet most parents feel that 24 or 25 players on a team is too many to get ample playing time for everyone. In addition, the parents of the better kids on the team would be especially unhappy with that many.

That's why everyone is lucky the parents don't get to make roster sizes or decisions. 18 to 20 and you are in big trouble when you have 3 games on 95 degree day in July. Or if someone gets hurt. I good coach will figure out how to balance playing time and win
games. Especially as they get older and you have specialist. Fogo, LSM etc

5 attack
7 middies(1 of them could also play some attack)
1 LSM
1 FOGO
5 defense
2 goalies
_________
21
You don't need more than the above.
The Crush plays with around 18 and 10 of them play 3 quarters of the game.

Crush could play with 13 because that's all they play anyway

Igloo is adding a 2020 team. Do people anticipate that team will be any good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is adding a 2020 team. Do people anticipate that team will be any good?

The pre tryout core is last years Express B team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is adding a 2020 team. Do people anticipate that team will be any good?

A bunch of kids from Express B are going there. That team was not strong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush could play with 13 because that's all they play anyway

Am I the only one who thinks Crush for as good as they are should break up where the better players get on 2019 teams. HS is coming close and many may and should get selectively classified for their districts JV teams this year. Let your tax $$ work for you now since most of the core will go private for HS.

Please do not POO POO the idea because you say why should a district train a player who may not play at that HS. Remember HS sports and specifically selection classification is for the particular student athlete (elite exceptional) making sure they are playing at the right level. Selection classification isn't to make a team better or a fill a roster spot but to ensure a student athlete is growing within the sport.

I am not saying this as a dig to the players just the opposite. Would any of the Crush players not only make 91 2019 orange but start? I only say this because JS has set the bar high with coaching and who can they go to where they feel they will be challenged grow and learn?

You are the best 2020 by a large margin, spread your wings challenge yourselves and let the rest of us battle it out for 2020.

2020 crush will not be same team 2-3 years from now if they want to compete it happens to all good young teams they will be luckily to have 5 kids form the original team

They will play a large majority of 2019 this coming year

I saw a bunch of fl$, 91 & express helmets at the clinic a few weeks ago. Lots of talent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush could play with 13 because that's all they play anyway

Am I the only one who thinks Crush for as good as they are should break up where the better players get on 2019 teams. HS is coming close and many may and should get selectively classified for their districts JV teams this year. Let your tax $$ work for you now since most of the core will go private for HS.

Please do not POO POO the idea because you say why should a district train a player who may not play at that HS. Remember HS sports and specifically selection classification is for the particular student athlete (elite exceptional) making sure they are playing at the right level. Selection classification isn't to make a team better or a fill a roster spot but to ensure a student athlete is growing within the sport.

I am not saying this as a dig to the players just the opposite. Would any of the Crush players not only make 91 2019 orange but start? I only say this because JS has set the bar high with coaching and who can they go to where they feel they will be challenged grow and learn?

You are the best 2020 by a large margin, spread your wings challenge yourselves and let the rest of us battle it out for 2020.

I dont see any real advantage to that as recruiting goes by age. Also most school districts do not bring kids up to JV at all. They go straight to varsity as 8th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush could play with 13 because that's all they play anyway

Am I the only one who thinks Crush for as good as they are should break up where the better players get on 2019 teams. HS is coming close and many may and should get selectively classified for their districts JV teams this year. Let your tax $$ work for you now since most of the core will go private for HS.

Please do not POO POO the idea because you say why should a district train a player who may not play at that HS. Remember HS sports and specifically selection classification is for the particular student athlete (elite exceptional) making sure they are playing at the right level. Selection classification isn't to make a team better or a fill a roster spot but to ensure a student athlete is growing within the sport.

I am not saying this as a dig to the players just the opposite. Would any of the Crush players not only make 91 2019 orange but start? I only say this because JS has set the bar high with coaching and who can they go to where they feel they will be challenged grow and learn?

You are the best 2020 by a large margin, spread your wings challenge yourselves and let the rest of us battle it out for 2020.

I dont see any real advantage to that as recruiting goes by age. Also most school districts do not bring kids up to JV at all. They go straight to varsity as 8th graders.

Seriously! Recruiting goes by age. Thought it was grade and if you can get to the recruiters before others in your grade i call that a leg up. Besides that, You see no advantage to the boys who could play 2019 to play 2019? Its called challenging the athletes. If you could play and start on a 2019 team that goes to top tournaments the recruiters will know. You dont think they want to see these kids playing up. Of course the do. They love it more than a holdback.

The topic of jv selective classification isnt meant to bring a 7th grader to varsity nor an 8th grader. it is however there to help exceptional student athletes bypass modified and go to a level commiserative to their talent level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is adding a 2020 team. Do people anticipate that team will be any good?

A bunch of kids from Express B are going there. That team was not strong.

Some 91 Titanium kids as well.

I anticipate the 2020 igloo team will be very good, not Crush or Terps good but very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is adding a 2020 team. Do people anticipate that team will be any good?

A bunch of kids from Express B are going there. That team was not strong.

Some 91 Titanium kids as well.

Heard they will be real good. Will have to wait and see. Rumors

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo is adding a 2020 team. Do people anticipate that team will be any good?

A bunch of kids from Express B are going there. That team was not strong.

Some 91 Titanium kids as well.

Heard they will be real good. Will have to wait and see. Rumors

How in the world would anyone know how good they will be.
A few kids from the B teams of Express and 91 will not make them "real good".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Igloo is adding a 2020 team. Do people anticipate that team will be any good?

A bunch of kids from Express B are going there. That team was not strong.

Some 91 Titanium kids as well.

Heard they will be real good. Will have to wait and see. Rumors

Heard from who? Team is not even picked yet. Unless they are picking up some kids from Crush or Terps they will not be a strong A team. Keep dreaming.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I anticipate the 2020 igloo team will be very good, not Crush or Terps good but very good.

You obviously have an interest in trying to get some good players to come tryout with that silly pontification.

R u saying someone on botc likes to hear themself speak? this is real news here, not op/ed stuff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I anticipate the 2020 igloo team will be very good, not Crush or Terps good but very good.

I agree, they will be like legacy, B+. A good place to start!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I anticipate the 2020 igloo team will be very good, not Crush or Terps good but very good.

I agree, they will be like legacy, B+. A good place to start!

Wonder where all the good kids who don't make the team they want end up?

don't confuse the '20 igloo free play session participants with who is actually trying out for Igloo... there are plenty of good players to go around but likely whoever winds up on that team might be good developing players but very few if any true current A players...

Don't confuse us with people who give a [****] what you have to say.

Uh, ok then. This is a forum for thoughts and opinions, no? I guess you care enough to read and respond though...I'm guessing you are a slight framed, little, angry man...we certainly know your angry about something, no confusion there...

2020 igloo will be very good, no doubt. Stick with your B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 igloo will be very good, no doubt. Stick with your B team.

Can you please elaborate on "Very Good".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 igloo will be very good, no doubt. Stick with your B team.

Can you please elaborate on "Very Good".

Will they be taking the 2020 player(s) that were on the 2021 team?

With tryouts so late, who will still be sitting around without a team? If you're a quality player, do you wait for Igloo? And if you don't make Igloo, what are your options? All the good teams will be full

igloo = express B plus a few fills in. Doesn't matter if the team is "good" they will be receiving good training and coaching and each indvidual will improve.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With tryouts so late, who will still be sitting around without a team? If you're a quality player, do you wait for Igloo? And if you don't make Igloo, what are your options? All the good teams will be full

Hearing lots of interest. Most "A" teams have their rosters set even before tryouts. Maybe they add 1 or 2 players. Really good players don't even get a look. Opportunity to get in and be the main focus.

morning ladies and gentlemen bumping this page up

I want to know how 91 let there top players on titanium leave and combine with legacy. Why would they let that happen? That team is now going to be up there with Terps and a tight game with crush. If this is true great job zummo. Way to get legacy on the map and hurt 91 at the same time. Can someone please confirm this one way or the other. My son plays for express wish I would of known this was coming he is really not happy there but I knew it was the best for him. Welcome the feedback.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I want to know how 91 let there top players on titanium leave and combine with legacy. Why would they let that happen? That team is now going to be up there with Terps and a tight game with crush. If this is true great job zummo. Way to get legacy on the map and hurt 91 at the same time. Can someone please confirm this one way or the other. My son plays for express wish I would of known this was coming he is really not happy there but I knew it was the best for him. Welcome the feedback.

91 has nothing to do about it.. If kids/families want to leave an organization they are free to do so.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I want to know how 91 let there top players on titanium leave and combine with legacy. Why would they let that happen? That team is now going to be up there with Terps and a tight game with crush. If this is true great job zummo. Way to get legacy on the map and hurt 91 at the same time. Can someone please confirm this one way or the other. My son plays for express wish I would of known this was coming he is really not happy there but I knew it was the best for him. Welcome the feedback.

Crush will still beat every local 2020 team by
A minimum of 10 to 15 plus goals on any given day in any given tournament . The Terps are clearly the next best team in 2020, and the games with crush have been at times competitive(within 5 goals) and at other times not so much. No doubt in the coming summer travel season Crush will still be head and shoulders above the rest in 2020 with Terps number 2.

so it is true? damn i wish i knew earlier would of liked to be a part of that!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so it is true? damn i wish i knew earlier would of liked to be a part of that!!!

How is the wolverines, I mean 2020 igloo team looking?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so it is true? damn i wish i knew earlier would of liked to be a part of that!!!

How is the wolverines, I mean 2020 igloo team looking?

Horrible.

True, Legacy getting Titanium top players. Will be a good team!
I would call Zummo if you are truly interested he left open a few spots. Hoping some kids may want to join!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I want to know how 91 let there top players on titanium leave and combine with legacy. Why would they let that happen? That team is now going to be up there with Terps and a tight game with crush. If this is true great job zummo. Way to get legacy on the map and hurt 91 at the same time. Can someone please confirm this one way or the other. My son plays for express wish I would of known this was coming he is really not happy there but I knew it was the best for him. Welcome the feedback.

Up there with Terps? Tight game with Crush? please Stop! It is Legacy and 91 B team that was Crush B team. Express and Crush both destroyed Legacy last year and if I remember correctly Crush beat Legacy 2019 by close to double digits.
Terps are 7plus better and Crush 10 plus probably cloer to 15. Tom should recruit from A teams instead of B

I heard some truth to the rumor, except it is lower level players from former 91 White team leaving Titanium. Seems a daddy coach is trying to move them. But still no team posted for Legacy, so we will see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, Legacy getting Titanium top players. Will be a good team!
I would call Zummo if you are truly interested he left open a few spots. Hoping some kids may want to join!

New kids will wreck havoc with the original team members. I expect infighting will lead to downfall when little Johnny doesn't start. Sad part is legacy 2020 was a solid team and did not need an infusion of more b level players. Should be interesting!

I heard face off, goalie and about 4 others

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard face off, goalie and about 4 others

Hope those kids are from Smithtown or they are really wasting their time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard face off, goalie and about 4 others

Hope those kids are from Smithtown or they are really wasting their time.

Legacy Taz was very good last year. are these players truly making the team or just displacing kids due to politics?

What happened to the 2020 hdd team? Where did those kids go?

If Legacy Taz so good how comes they didn't win Shamrock last year and let some team from PA beat them 8-1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the 2020 hdd team? Where did those kids go?

Keeping the kids together and going out on thier own. Wise choice. Legacy would just make them a c team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, Legacy getting Titanium top players. Will be a good team!
I would call Zummo if you are truly interested he left open a few spots. Hoping some kids may want to join!

New kids will wreck havoc with the original team members. I expect infighting will lead to downfall when little Johnny doesn't start. Sad part is legacy 2020 was a solid team and did not need an infusion of more b level players. Should be interesting!

I feel badly for the kids on Titanium. They are always called the B level players. Many of those kids are A level players and can compete with A teams. CRUSH is not your normal 2020 team. if they were to go off on their own, TItanium would be a solid A team, but because CRUSH is there- they lose kids that want to be on a known A team and also because they do not want to be second fiddle to another team. All understandable. However, the kids that do choose to play for Titanium are very good solid kids -definitely competitive with other A teams. I am not a Titanium parent- so no bashing... just an observation.

Legacy and Titanium were the number 3 and 4 team at age last year. Getting the best from both teams will make them much stronger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to the 2020 hdd team? Where did those kids go?

Keeping the kids together and going out on thier own. Wise choice. Legacy would just make them a c team.

Does anyone know if they are looking for players? how do you find them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy and Titanium were the number 3 and 4 team at age last year. Getting the best from both teams will make them much stronger.

Anyone who knows the groups being thrown together here knows they will be a talented group. How will they get all these kids on the field? Lot of $$ to play little minutes.

Will combining Legacy and Titanium make them stronger? Only time will tell as there are many things that could go wrong like the kids not liking each other so they don't play well together or the strengths of each team overlapping so the combination does nothing but frustrate some talented kids. It is also possible they become a much deeper, stronger team but with tournament games usually being so short and running time, not too much depth is needed so may not be a pronounced advantage. All that said, as a famous commentator once said, this is why you play the games. Let's at least let the kids play a game before we decide how any changes in the offseason have affected the teams.

Anyone who knows sports knows that NO MATTER how much [lacrosse] you kiss or who you know IT DOESNT MATTER we are getting into the true years now. This is the time when BOYS become MEN!!! and i dont care what anybody says SIZE DOES MATTER!!! you will start to see kids fall by the waist side now. kids are starting to go through puberty now. And there is no denying that size plays a major role. THE ONLY PARENTS WHO SAY SIZE DOESNT MATTER ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE SMALL KIDS!! check all the college rosters and you will see for yourself the stats are overwhelming..DONT BE AN [lacrosse] KISSER IN THE END IT WILL NOT MATTER!!!AND YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!

My son made the Outlaws Black but wasn't impressed with the talent at the tryout so he decided to stay with his current team. Does anyone know if that team, which I thought was a decent B team last year, lost players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, Legacy getting Titanium top players. Will be a good team!
I would call Zummo if you are truly interested he left open a few spots. Hoping some kids may want to join!

New kids will wreck havoc with the original team members. I expect infighting will lead to downfall when little Johnny doesn't start. Sad part is legacy 2020 was a solid team and did not need an infusion of more b level players. Should be interesting!

I feel badly for the kids on Titanium. They are always called the B level players. Many of those kids are A level players and can compete with A teams. CRUSH is not your normal 2020 team. if they were to go off on their own, TItanium would be a solid A team, but because CRUSH is there- they lose kids that want to be on a known A team and also because they do not want to be second fiddle to another team. All understandable. However, the kids that do choose to play for Titanium are very good solid kids -definitely competitive with other A teams. I am not a Titanium parent- so no bashing... just an observation.

Feel bad for titanium?!? how about 91 white 2019 who constantly got over shadowed by 2020 crush. That 2020 crush group is a good team. In the next few years there could be some ebbs and flows. Like when they played the men of Laxachuesetts. Lets see how the maturation years effect them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy and Titanium were the number 3 and 4 team at age last year. Getting the best from both teams will make them much stronger.

Anyone who knows the groups being thrown together here knows they will be a talented group. How will they get all these kids on the field? Lot of $$ to play little minutes.

Some will be favored due to their connections with the organization. I susspect some of the newbies will not be satisfied not being a starter. If the started with 91 and sit the bench on legacy while less talented kids stay in due to politics, dont see it going over well. Will be interesting!

Email legacy website

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, Legacy getting Titanium top players. Will be a good team!
I would call Zummo if you are truly interested he left open a few spots. Hoping some kids may want to join!

New kids will wreck havoc with the original team members. I expect infighting will lead to downfall when little Johnny doesn't start. Sad part is legacy 2020 was a solid team and did not need an infusion of more b level players. Should be interesting!

I feel badly for the kids on Titanium. They are always called the B level players. Many of those kids are A level players and can compete with A teams. CRUSH is not your normal 2020 team. if they were to go off on their own, TItanium would be a solid A team, but because CRUSH is there- they lose kids that want to be on a known A team and also because they do not want to be second fiddle to another team. All understandable. However, the kids that do choose to play for Titanium are very good solid kids -definitely competitive with other A teams. I am not a Titanium parent- so no bashing... just an observation.

Feel bad for titanium?!? how about 91 white 2019 who constantly got over shadowed by 2020 crush. That 2020 crush group is a good team. In the next few years there could be some ebbs and flows. Like when they played the men of Laxachuesetts. Lets see how the maturation years effect them.

I think Crush will end up playing more in their own division when on the road in states that tend to have older kids on their team. I think someone was saying that the 2019 Crabs have 7 hold backs this year. Playing up against kids that are in full blown puberty could be a safety factor. I think they are a talented team, but it would be a bad move to play up and have your players injured. The 2020 teams should be more competitive this year- some kids started puberty and some have just blossomed skill wise. I think the next two year will be fun to watch the 2020 boys as a whole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone who knows sports knows that NO MATTER how much [lacrosse] you kiss or who you know IT DOESNT MATTER we are getting into the true years now. This is the time when BOYS become MEN!!! and i dont care what anybody says SIZE DOES MATTER!!! you will start to see kids fall by the waist side now. kids are starting to go through puberty now. And there is no denying that size plays a major role. THE ONLY PARENTS WHO SAY SIZE DOESNT MATTER ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE SMALL KIDS!! check all the college rosters and you will see for yourself the stats are overwhelming..DONT BE AN [lacrosse] KISSER IN THE END IT WILL NOT MATTER!!!AND YOU ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!

My son is on the taller side, but I have to disagree. There are some very tough small kids that run circles around some of their taller counterparts. Checking the rosters, although the majority hover near 6 foot, there are plenty of shorter kids who excel. Some of these small kids are muscular powerhouses with insane skill!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard face off, goalie and about 4 others

That's accurate. All very good players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son made the Outlaws Black but wasn't impressed with the talent at the tryout so he decided to stay with his current team. Does anyone know if that team, which I thought was a decent B team last year, lost players?

I think They got Rid of some weak kids and added better.

They are 12. You are contradicting yourself there are not many small players unless you are a Fogo. Don't kid yourself. 6 foot at least!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are 12. You are contradicting yourself there are not many small players unless you are a Fogo. Don't kid yourself. 6 foot at least!!!

Don't know about that. Most of the early commits are well under 6 foot. Height is more important for defense. Many of the best attackmen are around 5 8" . Stick handling/dodging skills, speed, are paramount. The majority of boys reach their adult height by 16, then they fill out. Will the schools decommit these kids if they don't grow? Ludacris!

they wont decommit those kids they just will never see the field...im sorry you have a small kid and take offense to the truth. you can get away being small and shifty when you are young. try that playing attack when puberty hits you will be looking out your ear hole. SIZE DOES MATTER.

rob pannell? jordan wolf? case maethis? matt kavanaugh? kevin rice?

should I keep going?

rob panell, will manny, mikey powell????

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son made the Outlaws Black but wasn't impressed with the talent at the tryout so he decided to stay with his current team. Does anyone know if that team, which I thought was a decent B team last year, lost players?

I think They got Rid of some weak kids and added better.

My son's team picked up their leading scorer from last year so I'd say they may have gotten rid of some weak kids but they lost at least some quality kids as well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they wont decommit those kids they just will never see the field...im sorry you have a small kid and take offense to the truth. you can get away being small and shifty when you are young. try that playing attack when puberty hits you will be looking out your ear hole. SIZE DOES MATTER.

Stupidity at its best! You should check facts before flapping your mouth hole! Plenty of standout college players under 5 10"

ok you are up to 8 with the thousands that play....and you are talking about the all americans(special players). the stats dont lie look up average size..im sorry you have a small kid if you are doing this for college GET A GRIP...SIZE DOES MATTER!!!

Just because you have a big meat head for a kid doesn't mean that he has any guarantee either. The point is all shapes and sizes have shot if you have speed, stick skills and grades. No doubt your kid has all three and he is a starter on terps or crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ok you are up to 8 with the thousands that play....and you are talking about the all americans(special players). the stats dont lie look up average size..im sorry you have a small kid if you are doing this for college GET A GRIP...SIZE DOES MATTER!!!

same post was talked about on 2017 last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ok you are up to 8 with the thousands that play....and you are talking about the all americans(special players). the stats dont lie look up average size..im sorry you have a small kid if you are doing this for college GET A GRIP...SIZE DOES MATTER!!!

Like I said, there are plenty of great players 5 10" and under. My son is not short, he is average height, as are his parents. I'm just wondering why you would bash the shorter players. So I guess what you are saying is that any kid not projected to be 5 11" or taller should just quit lax right now, as they have no chance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ok you are up to 8 with the thousands that play....and you are talking about the all americans(special players). the stats dont lie look up average size..im sorry you have a small kid if you are doing this for college GET A GRIP...SIZE DOES MATTER!!!

Is that what your wife told you?5

so far, the '20 thread has best avoided the gutter; lets keep it that way, no matter who you support. Keep it to lax.

The best attackman in college lax are all under 5'10 u morons. Wolf, kavanagh, Dionne Matheis, and sankey all under 5'8".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ok you are up to 8 with the thousands that play....and you are talking about the all americans(special players). the stats dont lie look up average size..im sorry you have a small kid if you are doing this for college GET A GRIP...SIZE DOES MATTER!!!

I find it interesting that Duke's (Nat champ last 2 years) 3 of the best attackmen were under 5 9", One coming in at 5 7" (According to 2014 stats). I'm talking scoring leaders here. And, you were saying???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

Titanium kids ARE NOT trying out for Legacy, unless they are the team scrubs. It would be taking a step backwards!

I guess you were wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

Titanium kids ARE NOT trying out for Legacy, unless they are the team scrubs. It would be taking a step backwards!

I guess you were wrong.

There is movement every year. We will see starting in June how it all plays out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

Titanium kids ARE NOT trying out for Legacy, unless they are the team scrubs. It would be taking a step backwards!

I guess you were wrong.

There is movement every year. We will see starting in June how it all plays out.

Movement yes, more than half of the team no.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

Titanium kids ARE NOT trying out for Legacy, unless they are the team scrubs. It would be taking a step backwards!

I guess you were wrong.

There is movement every year. We will see starting in June how it all plays out.

Movement yes, more than half of the team no.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

Titanium kids ARE NOT trying out for Legacy, unless they are the team scrubs. It would be taking a step backwards!

I guess you were wrong.

There is movement every year. We will see starting in June how it all plays out.

Movement yes, more than half of the team no.

I would hardly call it more than half the team.

the other kids went to igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

Titanium kids ARE NOT trying out for Legacy, unless they are the team scrubs. It would be taking a step backwards!

I guess you were wrong.

There is movement every year. We will see starting in June how it all plays out.

Movement yes, more than half of the team no.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy is looking to upgrade a bunch of positions this year. Many titanium kids coming to tryout for legacy. I would e mail legacy directly. I was in a similar situation last year and Zummo was very receptive.

Titanium kids ARE NOT trying out for Legacy, unless they are the team scrubs. It would be taking a step backwards!

I guess you were wrong.

There is movement every year. We will see starting in June how it all plays out.

Movement yes, more than half of the team no.

I would hardly call it more than half the team.

I would. 7 or 8 went to Legacy, a few went to Igloo and a couple defenseman went to Express B.

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If 7-8 went to legacy, how many did they cut from that supposed "great" team? Or are there now 30 B Players on that team?

Clearly your son got cut from the team. I am sorry to hear it

Not exactly 30 but I am hearing 24 - 25 on that roster. Parents will not be happy especially with playing time and they will be looking for other options by spring

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Clearly your son got cut from the team. I am sorry to hear it

NOT!! Stayed away from that train wreck HAHA

How many teams does 91 have at this age group? I thought there were 4 - as per the try out selections, but only 3 listed under tournament page.

Crush, Orangemen and Stampede.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, Orangemen and Stampede.

Titanium in a state of flux. Might not do fall ball. Mass exodus.

Heard Titanium and Cyclones combined to become Orangemen. through the rumor mill. Any truth?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Titanium and Cyclones combined to become Orangemen. through the rumor mill. Any truth?

It is true. 91 sent an email on it.

Took two strong teams Cyclones and titanium formed one. Another 91 B team that will beat a Legacy so called A. Kids left titanium because they realized they will never be an A kid at 91 or Express so now there will be a bunch of B talent claiming to be "A" at Legacy. Kids that left were average at best but very delusional parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Took two strong teams Cyclones and titanium formed one. Another 91 B team that will beat a Legacy so called A. Kids left titanium because they realized they will never be an A kid at 91 or Express so now there will be a bunch of B talent claiming to be "A" at Legacy. Kids that left were average at best but very delusional parents.

Ouch!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Took two strong teams Cyclones and titanium formed one. Another 91 B team that will beat a Legacy so called A. Kids left titanium because they realized they will never be an A kid at 91 or Express so now there will be a bunch of B talent claiming to be "A" at Legacy. Kids that left were average at best but very delusional parents.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh today.
The Cyclones were not "strong" and by far their best player
is now on the 91A team. They will lose to Legacy by double digits.

The organization takes over a 40k hit by losing a team - that must suck also

Did legacy name their team titanium or 91b

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Took two strong teams Cyclones and titanium formed one. Another 91 B team that will beat a Legacy so called A. Kids left titanium because they realized they will never be an A kid at 91 or Express so now there will be a bunch of B talent claiming to be "A" at Legacy. Kids that left were average at best but very delusional parents.

Thanks, I needed a good laugh today.
The Cyclones were not "strong" and by far their best player
is now on the 91A team. They will lose to Legacy by double digits.

Nice to hear they promoted from within- people say it never happens.

Just about time for the usual offseason nonsense of this team fell apart, that team picked up all these amazing players, blah blah blah to come to an end and start actually playing games again! I know Legacy Taz is playing Monday in their own tournament and the day after Thanksgiving in the Express tournament so we'll get a sense of how the team looks this year. I also know the Express is sending teams to the Columbus Day Legacy thing, the 91 Halloween Havoc and of course their own after Thanksgiving get together. I'm sure whoever loses this games will claim it's just fall ball, we haven't practiced much, we have new kids, kids were missing, blah blah blah. The bottom line is you show up and you play and leave the excuses out of it. Good luck to all, will be interesting to see how the fairly established pecking order of Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue, Titanium, Wolverines, Team LI, and NYC Express has changed from last season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just about time for the usual offseason nonsense of this team fell apart, that team picked up all these amazing players, blah blah blah to come to an end and start actually playing games again! I know Legacy Taz is playing Monday in their own tournament and the day after Thanksgiving in the Express tournament so we'll get a sense of how the team looks this year. I also know the Express is sending teams to the Columbus Day Legacy thing, the 91 Halloween Havoc and of course their own after Thanksgiving get together. I'm sure whoever loses this games will claim it's just fall ball, we haven't practiced much, we have new kids, kids were missing, blah blah blah. The bottom line is you show up and you play and leave the excuses out of it. Good luck to all, will be interesting to see how the fairly established pecking order of Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue, Titanium, Wolverines, Team LI, and NYC Express has changed from last season.

Well established? Didn't Titanium beat Legacy at their last meeting? And How did TB get in there? Who did they beat?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just about time for the usual offseason nonsense of this team fell apart, that team picked up all these amazing players, blah blah blah to come to an end and start actually playing games again! I know Legacy Taz is playing Monday in their own tournament and the day after Thanksgiving in the Express tournament so we'll get a sense of how the team looks this year. I also know the Express is sending teams to the Columbus Day Legacy thing, the 91 Halloween Havoc and of course their own after Thanksgiving get together. I'm sure whoever loses this games will claim it's just fall ball, we haven't practiced much, we have new kids, kids were missing, blah blah blah. The bottom line is you show up and you play and leave the excuses out of it. Good luck to all, will be interesting to see how the fairly established pecking order of Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue, Titanium, Wolverines, Team LI, and NYC Express has changed from last season.

Well established? Didn't Titanium beat Legacy at their last meeting? And How did TB get in there? Who did they beat?

Who cares what Titanium did? They don't exist anymore. And for that matter, why are you still talking about last year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just about time for the usual offseason nonsense of this team fell apart, that team picked up all these amazing players, blah blah blah to come to an end and start actually playing games again! I know Legacy Taz is playing Monday in their own tournament and the day after Thanksgiving in the Express tournament so we'll get a sense of how the team looks this year. I also know the Express is sending teams to the Columbus Day Legacy thing, the 91 Halloween Havoc and of course their own after Thanksgiving get together. I'm sure whoever loses this games will claim it's just fall ball, we haven't practiced much, we have new kids, kids were missing, blah blah blah. The bottom line is you show up and you play and leave the excuses out of it. Good luck to all, will be interesting to see how the fairly established pecking order of Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue, Titanium, Wolverines, Team LI, and NYC Express has changed from last season.

Well established? Didn't Titanium beat Legacy at their last meeting? And How did TB get in there? Who did they beat?

I'm more surprised at TLI being included. Did they actually play any LI teams last year. They have LI in their name but refuse to play here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just about time for the usual offseason nonsense of this team fell apart, that team picked up all these amazing players, blah blah blah to come to an end and start actually playing games again! I know Legacy Taz is playing Monday in their own tournament and the day after Thanksgiving in the Express tournament so we'll get a sense of how the team looks this year. I also know the Express is sending teams to the Columbus Day Legacy thing, the 91 Halloween Havoc and of course their own after Thanksgiving get together. I'm sure whoever loses this games will claim it's just fall ball, we haven't practiced much, we have new kids, kids were missing, blah blah blah. The bottom line is you show up and you play and leave the excuses out of it. Good luck to all, will be interesting to see how the fairly established pecking order of Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue, Titanium, Wolverines, Team LI, and NYC Express has changed from last season.

Well established? Didn't Titanium beat Legacy at their last meeting? And How did TB get in there? Who did they beat?

Who cares what Titanium did? They don't exist anymore. And for that matter, why are you still talking about last year?

Well you have to start somewhere so last year seemed like a good place to begin. By the way, True Blue beat the Wolverines at JDRF, again at the Forsberg and beat Team Long Island in the Big Time Shootout Championship game. As for Titanium or 91B, I assume they will be at the Halloween Havoc so we will find out very shortly what kind of team they have at the moment. Igloo also now has a 2020 team and I know they have some players off the Wolverines from last season so it will be interesting to see where they turn up and how they stack up with these other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just about time for the usual offseason nonsense of this team fell apart, that team picked up all these amazing players, blah blah blah to come to an end and start actually playing games again! I know Legacy Taz is playing Monday in their own tournament and the day after Thanksgiving in the Express tournament so we'll get a sense of how the team looks this year. I also know the Express is sending teams to the Columbus Day Legacy thing, the 91 Halloween Havoc and of course their own after Thanksgiving get together. I'm sure whoever loses this games will claim it's just fall ball, we haven't practiced much, we have new kids, kids were missing, blah blah blah. The bottom line is you show up and you play and leave the excuses out of it. Good luck to all, will be interesting to see how the fairly established pecking order of Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue, Titanium, Wolverines, Team LI, and NYC Express has changed from last season.

.....and fl$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just about time for the usual offseason nonsense of this team fell apart, that team picked up all these amazing players, blah blah blah to come to an end and start actually playing games again! I know Legacy Taz is playing Monday in their own tournament and the day after Thanksgiving in the Express tournament so we'll get a sense of how the team looks this year. I also know the Express is sending teams to the Columbus Day Legacy thing, the 91 Halloween Havoc and of course their own after Thanksgiving get together. I'm sure whoever loses this games will claim it's just fall ball, we haven't practiced much, we have new kids, kids were missing, blah blah blah. The bottom line is you show up and you play and leave the excuses out of it. Good luck to all, will be interesting to see how the fairly established pecking order of Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue, Titanium, Wolverines, Team LI, and NYC Express has changed from last season.

Well established? Didn't Titanium beat Legacy at their last meeting? And How did TB get in there? Who did they beat?

Who cares what Titanium did? They don't exist anymore. And for that matter, why are you still talking about last year?

Well you have to start somewhere so last year seemed like a good place to begin. By the way, True Blue beat the Wolverines at JDRF, again at the Forsberg and beat Team Long Island in the Big Time Shootout Championship game. As for Titanium or 91B, I assume they will be at the Halloween Havoc so we will find out very shortly what kind of team they have at the moment. Igloo also now has a 2020 team and I know they have some players off the Wolverines from last season so it will be interesting to see where they turn up and how they stack up with these other teams.

Exactly. Whole new year with roster changes all over. Let's have this discussion in July.

put a few other teams in there before fl$.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

put a few other teams in there before fl$.

The Jesters are going to surprise a lot of people this year. Let's face it, Crush, Terps , Legacy....and then everyone else.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

put a few other teams in there before fl$.

The Jesters are going to surprise a lot of people this year. Let's face it, Crush, Terps , Legacy....and then everyone else.

They said that last year too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

put a few other teams in there before fl$.

The Jesters are going to surprise a lot of people this year. Let's face it, Crush, Terps , Legacy....and then everyone else.

This should be renamed "Boys 2020, other than Crush". No other LI team is even remotely close to them. Why even have discussions of other teams until they close the gap a bit?

Crush Then distant second Terps Can NOT put Legacy a team that lost to B teams last year near the Terps. 5-6 goal Terp win over Legacy. Legacy lost last year to B teams and now replace their team with those B kids. YOU are not near Terps and I wont even include Crush

Where did the Jesters pull kids from that are going to make them suprise some teams ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where did the Jesters pull kids from that are going to make them suprise some teams ?

They had to have another round of tryouts to fill out their roster for 2020 which does not exactly portend big things for the coming year. Agree that tons of kids move around and rosters are substantially different on many teams.....so we will see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where did the Jesters pull kids from that are going to make them suprise some teams ?

They picked up twins that just moved to the area from upstate. A midfielder and an attack man. The midfielder will be one of the top f/o kids around, and the kid on attack (lefty) is quick and can rip it!

True Blue A is very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where did the Jesters pull kids from that are going to make them suprise some teams ?

They picked up twins that just moved to the area from upstate. A midfielder and an attack man. The midfielder will be one of the top f/o kids around, and the kid on attack (lefty) is quick and can rip it!

Believe it when we see it.

Are we allowed to talk about other teams here?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

put a few other teams in there before fl$.

The Jesters are going to surprise a lot of people this year. Let's face it, Crush, Terps , Legacy....and then everyone else.

This should be renamed "Boys 2020, other than Crush". No other LI team is even remotely close to them. Why even have discussions of other teams until they close the gap a bit?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are we allowed to talk about other teams here?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

put a few other teams in there before fl$.

The Jesters are going to surprise a lot of people this year. Let's face it, Crush, Terps , Legacy....and then everyone else.

This should be renamed "Boys 2020, other than Crush". No other LI team is even remotely close to them. Why even have discussions of other teams until they close the gap a bit?

Why should any of these kids even bother playing if they are not on Crush? Get off your high horse. Kids and their families leave that team voluntarily and there are others out there who are plenty good enough to be on Crush but prefer to play elsewhere because of.......wait for it......the Crush parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did legacy name their team titanium or 91b

Did your parents name you [lacrosse] or Dbag. Hahahahahaha. Go kick your dog. Adult loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just about time for the usual offseason nonsense of this team fell apart, that team picked up all these amazing players, blah blah blah to come to an end and start actually playing games again! I know Legacy Taz is playing Monday in their own tournament and the day after Thanksgiving in the Express tournament so we'll get a sense of how the team looks this year. I also know the Express is sending teams to the Columbus Day Legacy thing, the 91 Halloween Havoc and of course their own after Thanksgiving get together. I'm sure whoever loses this games will claim it's just fall ball, we haven't practiced much, we have new kids, kids were missing, blah blah blah. The bottom line is you show up and you play and leave the excuses out of it. Good luck to all, will be interesting to see how the fairly established pecking order of Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue, Titanium, Wolverines, Team LI, and NYC Express has changed from last season.

Well established? Didn't Titanium beat Legacy at their last meeting? And How did TB get in there? Who did they beat?

Who cares what Titanium did? They don't exist anymore. And for that matter, why are you still talking about last year?

Well you have to start somewhere so last year seemed like a good place to begin. By the way, True Blue beat the Wolverines at JDRF, again at the Forsberg and beat Team Long Island in the Big Time Shootout Championship game. As for Titanium or 91B, I assume they will be at the Halloween Havoc so we will find out very shortly what kind of team they have at the moment. Igloo also now has a 2020 team and I know they have some players off the Wolverines from last season so it will be interesting to see where they turn up and how they stack up with these other teams.

You (or B Type Parent) need to get a life. What and incredible loser to be analyzing 12-13 year old boys. Get a life B boy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If 7-8 went to legacy, how many did they cut from that supposed "great" team? Or are there now 30 B Players on that team?

It's loser B boy again. Keep commenting like a little B**ch. Most of these 12-13 year olds could put you in your place no doubt. Loser.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where did the Jesters pull kids from that are going to make them suprise some teams ?

They picked up twins that just moved to the area from upstate. A midfielder and an attack man. The midfielder will be one of the top f/o kids around, and the kid on attack (lefty) is quick and can rip it!

Enter A brackets this year and see who you "surprise".

JESTERS SUCK!! Bring it Back to reality�Stay in B, stop taking up space in the A brackets! Give that opportunity to quality teams.

Jesters will be very good this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JESTERS SUCK!! Bring it Back to reality�Stay in B, stop taking up space in the A brackets! Give that opportunity to quality teams.

Wow. Very mature. What A team does your son play on?

Does that mean they will start beating town teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JESTERS SUCK!! Bring it Back to reality�Stay in B, stop taking up space in the A brackets! Give that opportunity to quality teams.

Wow. Very mature. What A team does your son play on?

Maturity has nothing to do with it, horrible team with a crook for a leader. Does it truly matter where my son plays?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JESTERS SUCK!! Bring it Back to reality�Stay in B, stop taking up space in the A brackets! Give that opportunity to quality teams.

Wow. Very mature. What A team does your son play on?

Maturity has nothing to do with it, horrible team with a crook for a leader. Does it truly matter where my son plays?

What is your name, and where does your son play? Signed, Jack Mehauf.

2020 Jesters will be a decent team in the B brackets. The 2020 coach from last year is at 91 and more than half the team scattered. The coach left because he was not getting paid when he was supposed to and got jerked around by the Jesters. This is not hear say. I heard it first hand.
Don't come on here saying they will be a good team and will surprise people. A suprise would be if your program could keep coaches and a core group of players for more than one summer.
You know it is coming to an end when you can't even get players to a free clinic. This may be a good Legacy takeover.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

JESTERS SUCK!! Bring it Back to reality�Stay in B, stop taking up space in the A brackets! Give that opportunity to quality teams.

Wow. Very mature. What A team does your son play on?

Maturity has nothing to do with it, horrible team with a crook for a leader. Does it truly matter where my son plays?

m

Jesters suck?? Has everything to do with acting like an adult. And where your kid plays would certainly be a point of reference of what you believe "sucks". The leader of this team is a great coach. Not sure what crook reference is about. If you don't olay here, not even sure why you are taking shots at the kids who play here.

The 2020 Jesters coach from last year came on back of cage signed his name and stated he has received all money owed to him for last year and recived all money from previous year.
I far as this thread goes this has been started by a non-2020 jester player or parent. Info is not correct
Just to try and get the pot stirring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 Jesters will be a decent team in the B brackets. The 2020 coach from last year is at 91 and more than half the team scattered. The coach left because he was not getting paid when he was supposed to and got jerked around by the Jesters. This is not hear say. I heard it first hand.
Don't come on here saying they will be a good team and will surprise people. A suprise would be if your program could keep coaches and a core group of players for more than one summer.
You know it is coming to an end when you can't even get players to a free clinic. This may be a good Legacy takeover.

I you heard it from someone it is hearsay. Whether you heard it firsthand or secondhand it is still hearsay.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2020 Jesters will be a decent team in the B brackets. The 2020 coach from last year is at 91 and more than half the team scattered. The coach left because he was not getting paid when he was supposed to and got jerked around by the Jesters. This is not hear say. I heard it first hand.
Don't come on here saying they will be a good team and will surprise people. A suprise would be if your program could keep coaches and a core group of players for more than one summer.
You know it is coming to an end when you can't even get players to a free clinic. This may be a good Legacy takeover.

I you heard it from someone it is hearsay. Whether you heard it firsthand or secondhand it is still hearsay.

Good job counselor.

Time will tell if they are a good team. Odds are they will be a middle of the road B team just like the other handful of teams that the Jesters have left. Player and coaching retention have hurt their product.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time will tell if they are a good team. Odds are they will be a middle of the road B team just like the other handful of teams that the Jesters have left. Player and coaching retention have hurt their product.

Lol. Oh , ok.

2018, 2021 and 2022 will be a little better than OK! The others have a lot of new players I heard.

Maybe past coach selection was opportunity?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Time will tell if they are a good team. Odds are they will be a middle of the road B team just like the other handful of teams that the Jesters have left. Player and coaching retention have hurt their product.

Speaking of retention. How many players from last years core of 91 Titanium is still there?

This is for the poster that's oh so fixated on the 91 Titanium boys. I think I saw you at the video booth. Hahahahahaha

I like to dance and eat bagels. Thank you so much for the new slippers and Neosporin. It's the hunger that makes it vertical. Not the equator!!!!

Did anyone else get an invite to Jake Reed? Is it worth it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did anyone else get an invite to Jake Reed? Is it worth it?

They go out of their way to say it is not a recruiting event for 2020s.....so not worth it if that is your goal. Whether the instruction at the camp justifies a trip to Florida I guess is the real issue.

Anyone know who won 2020 A and B at HH? Who was in the finals?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know who won 2020 A and B at HH? Who was in the finals?

2020 only had one bracket at Halloween Havoc. The Express Wolverines beat NYC lacrosse 6-1 in the finals. NYC had beaten Sachem, Tomahawks and 91 Orangemen in round robin. Express beat Orangemen and Blue Sharks and lost to Sachem by 1 to be other team in finals. Sachem and Tomahawks tied each other when they played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know who won 2020 A and B at HH? Who was in the finals?

2020 only had one bracket at Halloween Havoc. The Express Wolverines beat NYC lacrosse 6-1 in the finals. NYC had beaten Sachem, Tomahawks and 91 Orangemen in round robin. Express beat Orangemen and Blue Sharks and lost to Sachem by 1 to be other team in finals. Sachem and Tomahawks tied each other when they played.

Express lost to Sachem?

What's up with the newly formed Igloo 2020 team? Are they doing any fall touraments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know who won 2020 A and B at HH? Who was in the finals?

2020 only had one bracket at Halloween Havoc. The Express Wolverines beat NYC lacrosse 6-1 in the finals. NYC had beaten Sachem, Tomahawks and 91 Orangemen in round robin. Express beat Orangemen and Blue Sharks and lost to Sachem by 1 to be other team in finals. Sachem and Tomahawks tied each other when they played.

Express lost to Sachem?

Yup, Sachem has good team (lost to NYC 6-3, tied Tomahawks) and Express played poorly so they lost. Express played tremendous game to dominate NYC in finals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone know who won 2020 A and B at HH? Who was in the finals?

2020 only had one bracket at Halloween Havoc. The Express Wolverines beat NYC lacrosse 6-1 in the finals. NYC had beaten Sachem, Tomahawks and 91 Orangemen in round robin. Express beat Orangemen and Blue Sharks and lost to Sachem by 1 to be other team in finals. Sachem and Tomahawks tied each other when they played.

Express lost to Sachem?

Yup, Sachem has good team (lost to NYC 6-3, tied Tomahawks) and Express played poorly so they lost. Express played tremendous game to dominate NYC in finals.

How did the Orangemen do overall?

Its an opportunity to at least get on the radar for future events and also gives your son an opportunity to see how the event is run.

its early for that express b team, they have turned over a lot of kids on that team so give them time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

its early for that express b team, they have turned over a lot of kids on that team so give them time.

They won the freakin' tournament so great job by the coaches integrating the new kids quickly and great job by the kids to play so hard and so well together. They will absolutely be getting better over time but they are pretty good right now!

wow someone's panties on too tight today. it was a reply to the Express lost to Sachem? questions. Nice win though, just be glad legacy wasn't there to spoil your day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow someone's panties on too tight today. it was a reply to the Express lost to Sachem? questions. Nice win though, just be glad legacy wasn't there to spoil your day.

Or the Jesters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow someone's panties on too tight today. it was a reply to the Express lost to Sachem? questions. Nice win though, just be glad legacy wasn't there to spoil your day.

Legacy parents getting a bit cocky. Your Taz Team is a stronger B team than the Wolverines. Big deal. Sounds like your proud of that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

wow someone's panties on too tight today. it was a reply to the Express lost to Sachem? questions. Nice win though, just be glad legacy wasn't there to spoil your day.

Or the Jesters

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

That club is such a mess we should leave them out of this discussion. Just for the record, do they even have a team is the 2020 age group ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Took two strong teams Cyclones and titanium formed one. Another 91 B team that will beat a Legacy so called A. Kids left titanium because they realized they will never be an A kid at 91 or Express so now there will be a bunch of B talent claiming to be "A" at Legacy. Kids that left were average at best but very delusional parents.

Sadly for you Mr. Big Talker, they actually play games and produce actual results. The 91 Orangemen team from Halloween Havoc was no match for the Express Wolverines or NYC. And Legacy had smoked the Wolverines on Columbus Day. So, safe to say, the Orangemen would be no match for Legacy and you should shut your pie hole!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Took two strong teams Cyclones and titanium formed one. Another 91 B team that will beat a Legacy so called A. Kids left titanium because they realized they will never be an A kid at 91 or Express so now there will be a bunch of B talent claiming to be "A" at Legacy. Kids that left were average at best but very delusional parents.

Sadly for you Mr. Big Talker, they actually play games and produce actual results. The 91 Orangemen team from Halloween Havoc was no match for the Express Wolverines or NYC. And Legacy had smoked the Wolverines on Columbus Day. So, safe to say, the Orangemen would be no match for Legacy and you should shut your pie hole!

Your correct. Legacy is by far the strongest B team on Long Island. I think we will all agree with that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Took two strong teams Cyclones and titanium formed one. Another 91 B team that will beat a Legacy so called A. Kids left titanium because they realized they will never be an A kid at 91 or Express so now there will be a bunch of B talent claiming to be "A" at Legacy. Kids that left were average at best but very delusional parents.

Sadly for you Mr. Big Talker, they actually play games and produce actual results. The 91 Orangemen team from Halloween Havoc was no match for the Express Wolverines or NYC. And Legacy had smoked the Wolverines on Columbus Day. So, safe to say, the Orangemen would be no match for Legacy and you should shut your pie hole!

Your correct. Legacy is by far the strongest B team on Long Island. I think we will all agree with that.

Who pissed in your Cheerios? So every tournament should have an A division for Crush and Terps and then a B and C and maybe D divisons for everyone else? Your a jack [lacrosse], we get it, your kid got cut by Legacy or didn't make Legacy so you have to put them down and say they stink. But let's give you a chance to make your point intelligently...if Legacy is the best B team on Long Island, what 2020 teams qualify as A teams in your mind?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Took two strong teams Cyclones and titanium formed one. Another 91 B team that will beat a Legacy so called A. Kids left titanium because they realized they will never be an A kid at 91 or Express so now there will be a bunch of B talent claiming to be "A" at Legacy. Kids that left were average at best but very delusional parents.

Sadly for you Mr. Big Talker, they actually play games and produce actual results. The 91 Orangemen team from Halloween Havoc was no match for the Express Wolverines or NYC. And Legacy had smoked the Wolverines on Columbus Day. So, safe to say, the Orangemen would be no match for Legacy and you should shut your pie hole!

Your correct. Legacy is by far the strongest B team on Long Island. I think we will all agree with that.

Who pissed in your Cheerios? So every tournament should have an A division for Crush and Terps and then a B and C and maybe D divisons for everyone else? Your a jack [lacrosse], we get it, your kid got cut by Legacy or didn't make Legacy so you have to put them down and say they stink. But let's give you a chance to make your point intelligently...if Legacy is the best B team on Long Island, what 2020 teams qualify as A teams in your mind?

My guess is that its a Terps dad. His team always gets beat by the Crush,so he needs to feel better about himself by saying how much better the Terps are than Legacy A.

so there are two A teams on LI and that is it? terps and crush? sad state of affairs if that is all you got at 2020.

Typical terps Daddy You can think whatever you want but we were close last year and we are better now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so there are two A teams on LI and that is it? terps and crush? sad state of affairs if that is all you got at 2020.

You have to love these posts. Everyone else but express and 91 should just shut there doors beacause no one else apparently is signficant. And the 91 parents wonder why everyone else cant stand them. Yes crush is far and above the best in the age group. If you can call it that as we all know how many holdbacks are on that team. Outside of crush there are quite a few very good teams in the age group. You have Express, Outlaws and True Blue has a very strong team at this age group last year.

SO keep up the bull crap 91 parents. Your the best of course. no one else relates.. and Now you understand why people cant stand all of you and sooner than later that will catch up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so there are two A teams on LI and that is it? terps and crush? sad state of affairs if that is all you got at 2020.

You have to love these posts. Everyone else but express and 91 should just shut there doors beacause no one else apparently is signficant. And the 91 parents wonder why everyone else cant stand them. Yes crush is far and above the best in the age group. If you can call it that as we all know how many holdbacks are on that team. Outside of crush there are quite a few very good teams in the age group. You have Express, Outlaws and True Blue has a very strong team at this age group last year.

SO keep up the bull crap 91 parents. Your the best of course. no one else relates.. and Now you understand why people cant stand all of you and sooner than later that will catch up!

Stop lumping in all parents together. 91 has crazies just like every other organization. They also have teams suitable for all types of players even developmental. So stop trying to knock an entire organization just because your dealing with a few crazy parents.

Outlaws in a conversation with Express and True Blue? Not sure I agree at the 2020 age group, not a bad team but cannot compete with 91/Express B teams or Legacy or True Blue or Igloo I imagine.

Love how the terps Dads put themselves above everyone else, while that team has never won anything!! Dont love the 91 parents either but at least that team has accomplishments. Legacy WILL catch the terps this year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Outlaws in a conversation with Express and True Blue? Not sure I agree at the 2020 age group, not a bad team but cannot compete with 91/Express B teams or Legacy or True Blue or Igloo I imagine.

Or Team Long Island or NYC Express or fl$ or Tomahawks or Cold Spring Harbor or Manhasset or Sachem...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Took two strong teams Cyclones and titanium formed one. Another 91 B team that will beat a Legacy so called A. Kids left titanium because they realized they will never be an A kid at 91 or Express so now there will be a bunch of B talent claiming to be "A" at Legacy. Kids that left were average at best but very delusional parents.

Sadly for you Mr. Big Talker, they actually play games and produce actual results. The 91 Orangemen team from Halloween Havoc was no match for the Express Wolverines or NYC. And Legacy had smoked the Wolverines on Columbus Day. So, safe to say, the Orangemen would be no match for Legacy and you should shut your pie hole!

Your correct. Legacy is by far the strongest B team on Long Island. I think we will all agree with that.

Who pissed in your Cheerios? So every tournament should have an A division for Crush and Terps and then a B and C and maybe D divisons for everyone else? Your a jack [lacrosse], we get it, your kid got cut by Legacy or didn't make Legacy so you have to put them down and say they stink. But let's give you a chance to make your point intelligently...if Legacy is the best B team on Long Island, what 2020 teams qualify as A teams in your mind?

I think the question is, Who pissed in your Cheerios? This obviously touched a nerve.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Took two strong teams Cyclones and titanium formed one. Another 91 B team that will beat a Legacy so called A. Kids left titanium because they realized they will never be an A kid at 91 or Express so now there will be a bunch of B talent claiming to be "A" at Legacy. Kids that left were average at best but very delusional parents.

Sadly for you Mr. Big Talker, they actually play games and produce actual results. The 91 Orangemen team from Halloween Havoc was no match for the Express Wolverines or NYC. And Legacy had smoked the Wolverines on Columbus Day. So, safe to say, the Orangemen would be no match for Legacy and you should shut your pie hole!

Your correct. Legacy is by far the strongest B team on Long Island. I think we will all agree with that.

Who pissed in your Cheerios? So every tournament should have an A division for Crush and Terps and then a B and C and maybe D divisons for everyone else? Your a jack [lacrosse], we get it, your kid got cut by Legacy or didn't make Legacy so you have to put them down and say they stink. But let's give you a chance to make your point intelligently...if Legacy is the best B team on Long Island, what 2020 teams qualify as A teams in your mind?

I think the question is, Who pissed in your Cheerios? This obviously touched a nerve.

Blatant stupidity always annoys me and you are lucky enough to have it in abundance if you wrote the original post about Legacy being a B team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so there are two A teams on LI and that is it? terps and crush? sad state of affairs if that is all you got at 2020.

You have to love these posts. Everyone else but express and 91 should just shut there doors beacause no one else apparently is signficant. And the 91 parents wonder why everyone else cant stand them. Yes crush is far and above the best in the age group. If you can call it that as we all know how many holdbacks are on that team. Outside of crush there are quite a few very good teams in the age group. You have Express, Outlaws and True Blue has a very strong team at this age group last year.

SO keep up the bull crap 91 parents. Your the best of course. no one else relates.. and Now you understand why people cant stand all of you and sooner than later that will catch up!

once again the age nonsense, its been talked about forever no "Holdbacks" on Crush, Mommies and daddies put away your Jelousy and insecurities they are just better, period. work hard, practice, train and catch up, instead of making all the excuses to make your kids and yourselves feel better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so there are two A teams on LI and that is it? terps and crush? sad state of affairs if that is all you got at 2020.

You have to love these posts. Everyone else but express and 91 should just shut there doors beacause no one else apparently is signficant. And the 91 parents wonder why everyone else cant stand them. Yes crush is far and above the best in the age group. If you can call it that as we all know how many holdbacks are on that team. Outside of crush there are quite a few very good teams in the age group. You have Express, Outlaws and True Blue has a very strong team at this age group last year.

SO keep up the bull crap 91 parents. Your the best of course. no one else relates.. and Now you understand why people cant stand all of you and sooner than later that will catch up!

Did you miss the first part of the comment- Terps were included in the A team lump. Why are you harping on 91? why not include Express? This could have very well been written by an Express parent.

MD guy here: 91 the best period. mD teams can't even come close, ie: crabs or looneys. 91 beats them by an average of 10 goals.
The rest on the island are average.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD guy here: 91 the best period. mD teams can't even come close, ie: crabs or looneys. 91 beats them by an average of 10 goals.
The rest on the island are average.

All of our "average" teams should add a bunch of hold back kids that are 13 years old already like Crush and Crabs have and maybe we would be above average.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD guy here: 91 the best period. mD teams can't even come close, ie: crabs or looneys. 91 beats them by an average of 10 goals.
The rest on the island are average.

All of our "average" teams should add a bunch of hold back kids that are 13 years old already like Crush and Crabs have and maybe we would be above average.

Check your birth certificates... You have them! Crabs and Crush have played Dicks TOC 10 mo ago with birth certificates. Those kids are age appropriate. Now check yours. Ignorance is bliss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

MD guy here: 91 the best period. mD teams can't even come close, ie: crabs or looneys. 91 beats them by an average of 10 goals.
The rest on the island are average.

All of our "average" teams should add a bunch of hold back kids that are 13 years old already like Crush and Crabs have and maybe we would be above average.

Check your birth certificates... You have them! Crabs and Crush have played Dicks TOC 10 mo ago with birth certificates. Those kids are age appropriate. Now check yours. Ignorance is bliss.

Crabs didn't attend [lacrosse]'s TOC, they don't play outside of their own tournaments because they can't meet the age requirements. They blatantly use older kids and don't apologize for it, it's a known fact. Crush is best, everyone knows that, they have the three best players at that "age" group, and then there's a number of teams that are A o Long Island, Philly, MD, and Upstate NY that all compete and have strong games against one another. Only teams on LI that can be considered A on Long Island are Express and Legacy, haven't seen any other team that can give either a game.

Ok Legacy representative You have globs of kids from different organizations
Please do not put yourself near the terps. Go play a few games first

Crabs will beat crush this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crabs will beat crush this year

Crabs 2020 team is now filled with even more kids who "reclassify" after transferring into BL. I guess it's within the rules but I would like to see some humility from the Crabs organization since they are technically playing against younger kids...didn't the Crabs lose to Annapolis Hawks a few weeks ago?

Maybe he's talking about the 2018 crabs. 2020 crabs won't beat terps or crush

Was the 91 Crush team that won [lacrosse]'s U11 at the end of 2012 really mostly 2020's, i.e., a year younger than most competing players?

2020 crabs beat terps last summer

Yes

Terps beat the Hawks 8-1 on Sunday.

Who else did terps play down here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else did terps play down here

Roughriders, Bethesda

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else did terps play down here

Plus Rising Sons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else did terps play down here

Plus Rising Sons

What were the scores? Who came out on top?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else did terps play down here

Plus Rising Sons

What were the scores? Who came out on top?

It's fall ball games, who cares...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who else did terps play down here

Plus Rising Sons

What were the scores? Who came out on top?

It's fall ball games, who cares...

New year- new blood- tells you something about competition- no??? That's why!

Terps went 5 and 0 over the weekend. 15-1 vs Uprising, 11-3 vs Rising Sons, 8-1 vs Hawks, 14-3 vs RoughRiders, 9-3 vs Bethesda.

Does it matter what happened in the Fall? Crush will beat everyone at 2020 level by at least 5 goals. Crabs will rule the MD circuit. Contenders Fca, breakers, Hawks.

The Sons didn't have any of their middies, all at football/soccer/hockey. They were up until 3 middies left after the first period. Those two teams are even steven

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Sons didn't have any of their middies, all at football/soccer/hockey. They were up until 3 middies left after the first period. Those two teams are even steven

And one of the Terps had a hang nail and another had the sniffles so blah blah blah...stop the excuses, you showed up, you played the game, you lost. End of story. The proper thing to do is to say well played, you got us this time, hopefully we'll win the next one. Excuses are just a crutch for losers, in sports and in life.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Sons didn't have any of their middies, all at football/soccer/hockey. They were up until 3 middies left after the first period. Those two teams are even steven

I was at the game and disagree, and i guess the score would indicate otherwise. I saw one kid leave early and he wasn't an impact player. Big, fast, uh, older (?) kid was there the entire game, who I think is new to your team. I thought Sons would've provided better competition as they got out to a quick 2 goal lead, but they couldn't keep up and Terps ran away with it. It's fall ball so who really cares, Terps were missing 4-5 kids also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Sons didn't have any of their middies, all at football/soccer/hockey. They were up until 3 middies left after the first period. Those two teams are even steven

Sons have a great middie, stand-out player, asked one of the parents from another Philly team what they thought and the response was "who, the 9th grader?"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it matter what happened in the Fall? Crush will beat everyone at 2020 level by at least 5 goals. Crabs will rule the MD circuit. Contenders Fca, breakers, Hawks.

Since the board is called Boys 2020 and not just Crush-GOAT, I think talking about other teams and their results isn't just allowed, it's kinda the whole point! So please ask Larry Miller to open a thread called Crush-Fawn over our Greatness so you can post there and leave the rest of us to discuss the rest of the 2020 teams who we know can't compete with your beloved Crush but still like to play lacrosse anyway!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Terps went 5 and 0 over the weekend. 15-1 vs Uprising, 11-3 vs Rising Sons, 8-1 vs Hawks, 14-3 vs RoughRiders, 9-3 vs Bethesda.

Not a Terp parent but nice to see a LI team do well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Sons didn't have any of their middies, all at football/soccer/hockey. They were up until 3 middies left after the first period. Those two teams are even steven

I guess their backup goalie played middie then. Come on man None of their middie's !

11-3 is now even steven? even with missing kids.

The Whining Sons middies were all taking their driving test

What tournament r we talking about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournament r we talking about?

No tourney, just informal games, but with refs, timed quarters/halves, etc.

I wish there was more of this type of lax just closer to LI.

Fca is weak at 2020. Breakers is good but not top tier yet. Crabs, looneys, hawks are the top. Roughriders, breakers, fca are next

there is a ton of this on long island. get your coach to organize or communicate. I saw Express 91 and some Maryland teams I think this past summer at Kellenberg.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it matter what happened in the Fall? Crush will beat everyone at 2020 level by at least 5 goals. Crabs will rule the MD circuit. Contenders Fca, breakers, Hawks.

Since the board is called Boys 2020 and not just Crush-GOAT, I think talking about other teams and their results isn't just allowed, it's kinda the whole point! So please ask Larry Miller to open a thread called Crush-Fawn over our Greatness so you can post there and leave the rest of us to discuss the rest of the 2020 teams who we know can't compete with your beloved Crush but still like to play lacrosse anyway!

It would be great to see the parents stop bashing on the 2020 age group. There are a lot of strong teams, yes Crush is the best by a fairly wide margin, but below them there are 5-8 teams that can all really play. Why the hate? It's fine to be competitive, passionate and care about your team but there's no reason to bash other teams unless they show bad sportsmanship or cheat.

That is obviously a MD person posting. Not taking the bait LI

Looks like Team Igloo is making their first appearance, playing in the Fall Finale Classic in New Jersey next weekend. Play Outlaws Black, Jersey Thunder, and Westchester Predators so not the stiffest competition but will provide a measuring stick of sorts. Other side of the bracket has Igloo 2021 team and Express Wolverines in addition to Brotherhood and NJ Riot so much tougher side. My guess is the 2 Igloos meet in the finals with 2021 Black Ice winning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Team Igloo is making their first appearance, playing in the Fall Finale Classic in New Jersey next weekend. Play Outlaws Black, Jersey Thunder, and Westchester Predators so not the stiffest competition but will provide a measuring stick of sorts. Other side of the bracket has Igloo 2021 team and Express Wolverines in addition to Brotherhood and NJ Riot so much tougher side. My guess is the 2 Igloos meet in the finals with 2021 Black Ice winning.

Please tell me they don't call themselves Black Ice. CHEESY!

black ice? is that the 2021 team. Fancy.

Outlaws Black is now called Outlaws Orange as the coach heard Orange is the New Black so he changed the name!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Team Igloo is making their first appearance, playing in the Fall Finale Classic in New Jersey next weekend. Play Outlaws Black, Jersey Thunder, and Westchester Predators so not the stiffest competition but will provide a measuring stick of sorts. Other side of the bracket has Igloo 2021 team and Express Wolverines in addition to Brotherhood and NJ Riot so much tougher side. My guess is the 2 Igloos meet in the finals with 2021 Black Ice winning.

Please tell me they don't call themselves Black Ice. CHEESY!

I like it and my son is not in that grade or organization!

Crabs and looneys overrated in Maryland. Daddy ball

Is the mighty crush going to [lacrosse]'s this year?

I don't think they would win it this year. No size. Md teams adding older and bigger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Team Igloo is making their first appearance, playing in the Fall Finale Classic in New Jersey next weekend. Play Outlaws Black, Jersey Thunder, and Westchester Predators so not the stiffest competition but will provide a measuring stick of sorts. Other side of the bracket has Igloo 2021 team and Express Wolverines in addition to Brotherhood and NJ Riot so much tougher side. My guess is the 2 Igloos meet in the finals with 2021 Black Ice winning.

Where is the schedule posted?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think they would win it this year. No size. Md teams adding older and bigger.

Like which ones? Crush has already beaten all of them easily!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like Team Igloo is making their first appearance, playing in the Fall Finale Classic in New Jersey next weekend. Play Outlaws Black, Jersey Thunder, and Westchester Predators so not the stiffest competition but will provide a measuring stick of sorts. Other side of the bracket has Igloo 2021 team and Express Wolverines in addition to Brotherhood and NJ Riot so much tougher side. My guess is the 2 Igloos meet in the finals with 2021 Black Ice winning.

Any results?

Igloo has two teams in 2021. The 2021 Team Igloo Avalanche is playing in the 6th grade bracket and 2021 Team Igloo Black Ice Team is playing in the 7th Grade A Division. That is according to the schedule posted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think they would win it this year. No size. Md teams adding older and bigger.

Are they going? I think most of the teams in the U13 age group down there will be 2019s, maybe they feel they would lose?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo has two teams in 2021. The 2021 Team Igloo Avalanche is playing in the 6th grade bracket and 2021 Team Igloo Black Ice Team is playing in the 7th Grade A Division. That is according to the schedule posted.

1 Team in 2021 - Avalanche "A"

2 Teams in 7th Grade Division - Black Ice (7th Grade Team) & Team Igloo 2021 "AA"

They won it the past two years once young once on age and play 2019 more often than not . One thing about that group is they challenge themselves like them or not .

Is it true Legacy Taz dropped out of the fl$ tournament in Maryland because Crush is playing in it?

fl$ played in Sweet lax tournament at Cornell:
Beat sweet lax, Edge Ontario, Leading Edge (NJ) then lost to Edge Ontario in final.

Edge Ontario was physically far bigger then fl$ and used it to their in advantage in the final...

the fall foliage must have been awesome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo has two teams in 2021. The 2021 Team Igloo Avalanche is playing in the 6th grade bracket and 2021 Team Igloo Black Ice Team is playing in the 7th Grade A Division. That is according to the schedule posted.

1 Team in 2021 - Avalanche "A"

2 Teams in 7th Grade Division - Black Ice (7th Grade Team) & Team Igloo 2021 "AA"

While there are a number of 2021 A and 2021 AA players that are really 2020 and they may play up in the 2020 division, Igloo is a 2021 team, please keep them out of 2020 thread and post in the Igloo or 2021 thread

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo has two teams in 2021. The 2021 Team Igloo Avalanche is playing in the 6th grade bracket and 2021 Team Igloo Black Ice Team is playing in the 7th Grade A Division. That is according to the schedule posted.

1 Team in 2021 - Avalanche "A"

2 Teams in 7th Grade Division - Black Ice (7th Grade Team) & Team Igloo 2021 "AA"

While there are a number of 2021 A and 2021 AA players that are really 2020 and they may play up in the 2020 division, Igloo is a 2021 team, please keep them out of 2020 thread and post in the Igloo or 2021 thread

So there are no kids on Igloo 2021 that are currently in 7th grade?

There are, but they qualify by birthday guidleines for 2021 (somehow, due to bizarre rules, and the coach exploits that loophole as I imagine others could).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are, but they qualify by birthday guidleines for 2021 (somehow, due to bizarre rules, and the coach exploits that loophole as I imagine others could).

Revenge also does that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are, but they qualify by birthday guidleines for 2021 (somehow, due to bizarre rules, and the coach exploits that loophole as I imagine others could).

WHAT, 2019 HERE. IF THE TOURNAMENT IS GRADE BASED NO, YOU ARE WRONG. A 2020 STUDENT DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR A 2021 BRACKET (A 2021 BRACKTE MEANS GRADE BASED - SURE YOU CAN BE OLDER AND IN THE GRADE - BUT YOU CANT BE IN A GRADE OLDER) UNLESS YOU GET SPECIAL PERMISSION FROM ORGANIZERS.

THE ONLY TIME A 2020 STUDENT CAN PLAY ON A 2021 TEAM IS WHEN IT GOES BY u/AGE DESIGNATION. THAT IS IT OUTSIDE OF THAT YOU ARE CHEATING.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the fall foliage must have been awesome.

It was

Who is the head coach of the Igloo 2020 team?

Head Coach Ron Nadar, Assistant Coach Keith Cromwell - Thanks Google.

This post was on 2019 thread relating to Express/Dukes fall ball games yesterday. Worth highlighting here on 2020.

Thank you Duke's lacrosse for making the trip and providing us with some fun, competitive lacrosse. A belated thank you to the PA and MD teams that hosted our Express 2020 team last week. The coaches, kids and parents were class acts and it's a wonderful reminder that there is such a thing as competitive lacrosse in a non-hostile environment.
Express parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They won it the past two years once young once on age and play 2019 more often than not . One thing about that group is they challenge themselves like them or not .

So, are they playing at Dicks this year?

Where is Crush playing this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They won it the past two years once young once on age and play 2019 more often than not . One thing about that group is they challenge themselves like them or not .

So, are they playing at Dicks this year?

No, won easily past two years. Would again. No LI teams are doing Dicks this year from what I hear

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where is Crush playing this weekend?

Check the Crush website

2020 Jesters are looking for one defensemen and one midfielder for their 2020 team.
If interested contact the Jesters club

nothing is on the 91 website that says where Crush is playing this weekend. 2019 orange, yes, crush, no

Originally Posted by Anonymous

nothing is on the 91 website that says where Crush is playing this weekend. 2019 orange, yes, crush, no

Crush is not playing this weekend

Looks like legacy is playing 2020b teams at the mayflower this weekend. The a teams are all playing each other but legacy appears to not be in that grouping. Wonder why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like legacy is playing 2020b teams at the mayflower this weekend. The a teams are all playing each other but legacy appears to not be in that grouping. Wonder why?

Are they playing the NH Tomahawks?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like legacy is playing 2020b teams at the mayflower this weekend. The a teams are all playing each other but legacy appears to not be in that grouping. Wonder why?

Why would they enter in the b division after all that bragging about being a "true" a team? Unbelievable!

You two are cowards. Pussies really.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You two are cowards. Pussies really.

Why is that? Hit a nerve? Mad cause reality just smacked you in the face? B team king

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You two are cowards. Pussies really.

Why is that? Hit a nerve? Mad cause reality just smacked you in the face? B team king

Getting sick of losers like you hammering 12 year olds you [lacrosse].
As you said "smacked me in the face". Really. The kids play NOT YOU or I so not sure wth your talking about when you say "hitting a nerve". Everyone knows your a loser living through your young child and talking [lacrosse] because your a [lacrosse]. Good luck. Hope you don't F up your kid too bad.
Now put your iPad away, pull up your pants and act like an adult.

It could be possible the directors of the tournament put them there and they had no say. Also, possible they want to play some easier opponents in the fall since fall ball is practice based anyway before the spring and summer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It could be possible the directors of the tournament put them there and they had no say. Also, possible they want to play some easier opponents in the fall since fall ball is practice based anyway before the spring and summer.

Hahaha, yea right, quality b parent

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like legacy is playing 2020b teams at the mayflower this weekend. The a teams are all playing each other but legacy appears to not be in that grouping. Wonder why?

Why would they enter in the b division after all that bragging about being a "true" a team? Unbelievable!

Let's look at some facts about this tournament. There is no A or B division, only one 2020 division. 4 teams play morning games including Legacy, Penguins Royal, Wolfgang and Next Level. 6 teams play afternoon games including NH Tomahawks, SweetLax, Warrior Elite, VS Necks, 3d NE and 3d TriState. I have never heard of most of these teams and I doubt most people have so which ones are good would be a wild guess. Also, since this is a festival without a championship, there is nothing to be gained, no cheap B divison Tshirt or photo so you seem to be really reaching to try and put Legacy down. I know Legacy is going to the Express Thanksgiving thing. Since Express makes the schedule, if they want the Terps to play Legacy, it will happen. So back off the Legacy are wimps stuff for now. It may be true but simply does not fit at the moment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like legacy is playing 2020b teams at the mayflower this weekend. The a teams are all playing each other but legacy appears to not be in that grouping. Wonder why?

Why would they enter in the b division after all that bragging about being a "true" a team? Unbelievable!

Let's look at some facts about this tournament. There is no A or B division, only one 2020 division. 4 teams play morning games including Legacy, Penguins Royal, Wolfgang and Next Level. 6 teams play afternoon games including NH Tomahawks, SweetLax, Warrior Elite, VS Necks, 3d NE and 3d TriState. I have never heard of most of these teams and I doubt most people have so which ones are good would be a wild guess. Also, since this is a festival without a championship, there is nothing to be gained, no cheap B divison Tshirt or photo so you seem to be really reaching to try and put Legacy down. I know Legacy is going to the Express Thanksgiving thing. Since Express makes the schedule, if they want the Terps to play Legacy, it will happen. So back off the Legacy are wimps stuff for now. It may be true but simply does not fit at the moment.

The quality teams playing are tomahawks, SweetLax they will give good competition. The rest, not so much. A waste of time and money. A shame the boys have to miss Halloween for that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like legacy is playing 2020b teams at the mayflower this weekend. The a teams are all playing each other but legacy appears to not be in that grouping. Wonder why?

Why would they enter in the b division after all that bragging about being a "true" a team? Unbelievable!

Let's look at some facts about this tournament. There is no A or B division, only one 2020 division. 4 teams play morning games including Legacy, Penguins Royal, Wolfgang and Next Level. 6 teams play afternoon games including NH Tomahawks, SweetLax, Warrior Elite, VS Necks, 3d NE and 3d TriState. I have never heard of most of these teams and I doubt most people have so which ones are good would be a wild guess. Also, since this is a festival without a championship, there is nothing to be gained, no cheap B divison Tshirt or photo so you seem to be really reaching to try and put Legacy down. I know Legacy is going to the Express Thanksgiving thing. Since Express makes the schedule, if they want the Terps to play Legacy, it will happen. So back off the Legacy are wimps stuff for now. It may be true but simply does not fit at the moment.

Why the attack on Legacy? From what I've heard they put together a good team that is definitely in the top 3-4 on Long Island. I can't imagine that anyone affiliated with Express has a grudge or issue with Legacy, played them multiple times and there's never been any conflicts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like legacy is playing 2020b teams at the mayflower this weekend. The a teams are all playing each other but legacy appears to not be in that grouping. Wonder why?

Why would they enter in the b division after all that bragging about being a "true" a team? Unbelievable!

Let's look at some facts about this tournament. There is no A or B division, only one 2020 division. 4 teams play morning games including Legacy, Penguins Royal, Wolfgang and Next Level. 6 teams play afternoon games including NH Tomahawks, SweetLax, Warrior Elite, VS Necks, 3d NE and 3d TriState. I have never heard of most of these teams and I doubt most people have so which ones are good would be a wild guess. Also, since this is a festival without a championship, there is nothing to be gained, no cheap B divison Tshirt or photo so you seem to be really reaching to try and put Legacy down. I know Legacy is going to the Express Thanksgiving thing. Since Express makes the schedule, if they want the Terps to play Legacy, it will happen. So back off the Legacy are wimps stuff for now. It may be true but simply does not fit at the moment.

The quality teams playing are tomahawks, SweetLax they will give good competition. The rest, not so much. A waste of time and money. A shame the boys have to miss Halloween for that

We're up in the Boston area. My son's team played Legacy Taz last summer at the Sweetlax tournament in NJ. They handily beat us. We're playing them again this weekend at this tournament (he's on a different team this year) but his team has played the other two teams Taz will play (means I've seen all four teams in that mini bracket) and I fully expect Taz to run over these three teams, unless they are using the same Taz name with a different set of kids for the fall. I believe Taz was their top 2020 team this past summer.

the other bracket, 3d-tri state, 3d NE, NH Tomahawks, Warrior Elite, Little Necks, Sweetlax should be the tougher tournament. I'm thinking Warrior Elite will take that bracket. I'll try to get the scores and results posted, to see how close I was. Have a great weeekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like legacy is playing 2020b teams at the mayflower this weekend. The a teams are all playing each other but legacy appears to not be in that grouping. Wonder why?

Why would they enter in the b division after all that bragging about being a "true" a team? Unbelievable!

Let's look at some facts about this tournament. There is no A or B division, only one 2020 division. 4 teams play morning games including Legacy, Penguins Royal, Wolfgang and Next Level. 6 teams play afternoon games including NH Tomahawks, SweetLax, Warrior Elite, VS Necks, 3d NE and 3d TriState. I have never heard of most of these teams and I doubt most people have so which ones are good would be a wild guess. Also, since this is a festival without a championship, there is nothing to be gained, no cheap B divison Tshirt or photo so you seem to be really reaching to try and put Legacy down. I know Legacy is going to the Express Thanksgiving thing. Since Express makes the schedule, if they want the Terps to play Legacy, it will happen. So back off the Legacy are wimps stuff for now. It may be true but simply does not fit at the moment.

Why the attack on Legacy? From what I've heard they put together a good team that is definitely in the top 3-4 on Long Island. I can't imagine that anyone affiliated with Express has a grudge or issue with Legacy, played them multiple times and there's never been any conflicts.

Simply meant Legacy could not duck Terps as other posters implied they do with A teams in general. Did not mean to imply any bad blood between Express and Legacy, just to refute the postings about Legacy always looking for weak competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like legacy is playing 2020b teams at the mayflower this weekend. The a teams are all playing each other but legacy appears to not be in that grouping. Wonder why?

Why would they enter in the b division after all that bragging about being a "true" a team? Unbelievable!

Let's look at some facts about this tournament. There is no A or B division, only one 2020 division. 4 teams play morning games including Legacy, Penguins Royal, Wolfgang and Next Level. 6 teams play afternoon games including NH Tomahawks, SweetLax, Warrior Elite, VS Necks, 3d NE and 3d TriState. I have never heard of most of these teams and I doubt most people have so which ones are good would be a wild guess. Also, since this is a festival without a championship, there is nothing to be gained, no cheap B divison Tshirt or photo so you seem to be really reaching to try and put Legacy down. I know Legacy is going to the Express Thanksgiving thing. Since Express makes the schedule, if they want the Terps to play Legacy, it will happen. So back off the Legacy are wimps stuff for now. It may be true but simply does not fit at the moment.

The quality teams playing are tomahawks, SweetLax they will give good competition. The rest, not so much. A waste of time and money. A shame the boys have to miss Halloween for that

We're up in the Boston area. My son's team played Legacy Taz last summer at the Sweetlax tournament in NJ. They handily beat us. We're playing them again this weekend at this tournament (he's on a different team this year) but his team has played the other two teams Taz will play (means I've seen all four teams in that mini bracket) and I fully expect Taz to run over these three teams, unless they are using the same Taz name with a different set of kids for the fall. I believe Taz was their top 2020 team this past summer.

the other bracket, 3d-tri state, 3d NE, NH Tomahawks, Warrior Elite, Little Necks, Sweetlax should be the tougher tournament. I'm thinking Warrior Elite will take that bracket. I'll try to get the scores and results posted, to see how close I was. Have a great weeekend.

Joke is on the Legacy parents, waste of a weekend and $$$

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like legacy is playing 2020b teams at the mayflower this weekend. The a teams are all playing each other but legacy appears to not be in that grouping. Wonder why?

Why would they enter in the b division after all that bragging about being a "true" a team? Unbelievable!

Let's look at some facts about this tournament. There is no A or B division, only one 2020 division. 4 teams play morning games including Legacy, Penguins Royal, Wolfgang and Next Level. 6 teams play afternoon games including NH Tomahawks, SweetLax, Warrior Elite, VS Necks, 3d NE and 3d TriState. I have never heard of most of these teams and I doubt most people have so which ones are good would be a wild guess. Also, since this is a festival without a championship, there is nothing to be gained, no cheap B divison Tshirt or photo so you seem to be really reaching to try and put Legacy down. I know Legacy is going to the Express Thanksgiving thing. Since Express makes the schedule, if they want the Terps to play Legacy, it will happen. So back off the Legacy are wimps stuff for now. It may be true but simply does not fit at the moment.

The quality teams playing are tomahawks, SweetLax they will give good competition. The rest, not so much. A waste of time and money. A shame the boys have to miss Halloween for that

We're up in the Boston area. My son's team played Legacy Taz last summer at the Sweetlax tournament in NJ. They handily beat us. We're playing them again this weekend at this tournament (he's on a different team this year) but his team has played the other two teams Taz will play (means I've seen all four teams in that mini bracket) and I fully expect Taz to run over these three teams, unless they are using the same Taz name with a different set of kids for the fall. I believe Taz was their top 2020 team this past summer.

the other bracket, 3d-tri state, 3d NE, NH Tomahawks, Warrior Elite, Little Necks, Sweetlax should be the tougher tournament. I'm thinking Warrior Elite will take that bracket. I'll try to get the scores and results posted, to see how close I was. Have a great weeekend.

Joke is on the Legacy parents, waste of a weekend and $$$

Whats the weather going to be like. Anyone else heard there could be some snow

I heard nasty, cold and rainy, good times!!

Tired of hearing how legacy will beat the terps this year please stop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they wont decommit those kids they just will never see the field...im sorry you have a small kid and take offense to the truth. you can get away being small and shifty when you are young. try that playing attack when puberty hits you will be looking out your ear hole. SIZE DOES MATTER. Oh

Stupidity at its best! You should check facts before flapping your mouth hole! Plenty of standout college players under 5 10"

5'4" Turtle just committed to Cornell. Looks like size is not a dealbreaker! Congrats to the kid for living up to his club name, tenacious!

I hear that looneys team didn't look so good down in pa this past weekend. They beat an average team in the final by a couple.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they wont decommit those kids they just will never see the field...im sorry you have a small kid and take offense to the truth. you can get away being small and shifty when you are young. try that playing attack when puberty hits you will be looking out your ear hole. SIZE DOES MATTER. Oh

Stupidity at its best! You should check facts before flapping your mouth hole! Plenty of standout college players under 5 10"

5'4" Turtle just committed to Cornell. Looks like size is not a dealbreaker! Congrats to the kid for living up to his club name, tenacious!

That's good news for the little bro

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they wont decommit those kids they just will never see the field...im sorry you have a small kid and take offense to the truth. you can get away being small and shifty when you are young. try that playing attack when puberty hits you will be looking out your ear hole. SIZE DOES MATTER. Oh

Stupidity at its best! You should check facts before flapping your mouth hole! Plenty of standout college players under 5 10"

5'4" Turtle just committed to Cornell. Looks like size is not a dealbreaker! Congrats to the kid for living up to his club name, tenacious!

That's good news for the little bro

. Did little bro repeat yet? this is 2020's section. Isn't that just a matter of time

few teams in action this weekend for '20s,

http://www.rumblelax.com/Assets/2014+Rumble+Schedule.pdf

http://www.fallfinaleclassic.com/

https://3dlacrosse.com/events/tournaments/mayflower-invitational/mayflower-invitational-schedule

Originally Posted by Anonymous

few teams in action this weekend for '20s,

http://www.rumblelax.com/Assets/2014+Rumble+Schedule.pdf

http://www.fallfinaleclassic.com/

https://3dlacrosse.com/events/tournaments/mayflower-invitational/mayflower-invitational-schedule

Terps in VA, Legacy in MA, Wolves, Igloo and Outlaws in NJ...too bad they couldn't just stay on Long Island and have their own tourney. Terps vs. Legacy would be great to see as would Wolves vs. Igloo and then the players from all 4 of those teams who don't see the field much in those games could get tons of playing time against the Outlaws!

How many of these teams will be attending yale

Total waste of Legacy's time.

First Game - 22-0 Legacy over Next Level (who in the spirit of long island excuse makers everywhere, had no subs, 3 of their best players weren't there, and the goalie was the one kid who normally played defense, but they stuck him in next as the regular goalie wasn't there) (actually this is all true)

Second game against Penguins - 14ish -2.

third game - 8 goal win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total waste of Legacy's time.

First Game - 22-0 Legacy over Next Level (who in the spirit of long island excuse makers everywhere, had no subs, 3 of their best players weren't there, and the goalie was the one kid who normally played defense, but they stuck him in next as the regular goalie wasn't there) (actually this is all true)

Second game against Penguins - 14ish -2.

third game - 8 goal win.

Congratulations to the b team champs. When will you play some real competition?

Legacy Moms definitely are A team. Way hot!
The poster fixated with the B team posts is most certainly either a fat Mom or a loser married to one. Lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total waste of Legacy's time.

First Game - 22-0 Legacy over Next Level (who in the spirit of long island excuse makers everywhere, had no subs, 3 of their best players weren't there, and the goalie was the one kid who normally played defense, but they stuck him in next as the regular goalie wasn't there) (actually this is all true)

Second game against Penguins - 14ish -2.

third game - 8 goal win.

Congratulations to the b team champs. When will you play some real competition?

Both Legacy and Terps will be at Express Thanksgiving thing at Hofstra. Since Legacy does not control that schedule, they could (and should) end up playing the Terps. Would that be soon enough for you? By the way, Terps won their Richmond Rumble, going 6-0 and outscoring opponents 78-6.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total waste of Legacy's time.

First Game - 22-0 Legacy over Next Level (who in the spirit of long island excuse makers everywhere, had no subs, 3 of their best players weren't there, and the goalie was the one kid who normally played defense, but they stuck him in next as the regular goalie wasn't there) (actually this is all true)

Second game against Penguins - 14ish -2.

third game - 8 goal win.

Congratulations to the b team champs. When will you play some real competition?

Both Legacy and Terps will be at Express Thanksgiving thing at Hofstra. Since Legacy does not control that schedule, they could (and should) end up playing the Terps. Would that be soon enough for you? By the way, Terps won their Richmond Rumble, going 6-0 and outscoring opponents 78-6.

Why drive all the way down there for that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Total waste of Legacy's time.

First Game - 22-0 Legacy over Next Level (who in the spirit of long island excuse makers everywhere, had no subs, 3 of their best players weren't there, and the goalie was the one kid who normally played defense, but they stuck him in next as the regular goalie wasn't there) (actually this is all true)

Second game against Penguins - 14ish -2.

third game - 8 goal win.

Congratulations to the b team champs. When will you play some real competition?

Both Legacy and Terps will be at Express Thanksgiving thing at Hofstra. Since Legacy does not control that schedule, they could (and should) end up playing the Terps. Would that be soon enough for you? By the way, Terps won their Richmond Rumble, going 6-0 and outscoring opponents 78-6.

Why drive all the way down there for that?

Why, does it make more sense to drive to Boston and blow out b teams? At least it was a legit tournament!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Moms definitely are A team. Way hot!
The poster fixated with the B team posts is most certainly either a fat Mom or a loser married to one. Lol.

Thanks Legacy Moms! We appreciate you promoting yourself!
Really?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Moms definitely are A team. Way hot!
The poster fixated with the B team posts is most certainly either a fat Mom or a loser married to one. Lol.

Thanks Legacy Moms! We appreciate you promoting yourself!
Really?

Not written by a Mom Mrs Nostradamus. Must be cool thinking you know everything you [lacrosse]. You're really not that smart. Probably not that easy on the eyes either. Just a guess.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Moms definitely are A team. Way hot!
The poster fixated with the B team posts is most certainly either a fat Mom or a loser married to one. Lol.

Thanks Legacy Moms! We appreciate you promoting yourself!
Really?

Not written by a Mom Mrs Nostradamus. Must be cool thinking you know everything you [lacrosse]. You're really not that smart. Probably not that easy on the eyes either. Just a guess.

Can we all grow up and stop acting like children? This place has really sunk to new lows. It's a shame 2020 parents couldn't stop themselves from joining in on the trash talk. Hot moms, fat moms, loser dads- seriously? Who cares? Worse than 3rd grade spats.

Does anyone know if 91 Crush is playing at Yale this weekend? If so are they playing 2019 or 2020?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know if 91 Crush is playing at Yale this weekend? If so are they playing 2019 or 2020?

There is a team listed in in the 2019 division just labelled at 91 Crush. I assume that is them.

[quote=Anonymous]Does anyone know if 91 Crush is playing at Yale this weekend? If so are they playing 2019 or 2020? [/quote

You most likely already know and just want to bring attention to it. If it's that important to you why don't you to to the website and pull the information down or perhaps JS sent you the information this morning in an email

I know the Princeton tournament last weekend was a horrible waste of time but curious how the new Igloo 2020 team looked. They beat the Outlaws Black 8-4 in the one game that got played. Score alone seems to mean they are no where near the Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue level and probably means just below next tier of Wolverines, NYC Express, Team Long Island and Tomahawks. Anyone who was there care to chime in?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know the Princeton tournament last weekend was a horrible waste of time but curious how the new Igloo 2020 team looked. They beat the Outlaws Black 8-4 in the one game that got played. Score alone seems to mean they are no where near the Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue level and probably means just below next tier of Wolverines, NYC Express, Team Long Island and Tomahawks. Anyone who was there care to chime in?

Igloo is a brand new team and been together a month. Wait until July to categorize them. Long way to go.

they will be good, some very talented kids on the Igloo 2020 team. If the coaching is good they will be one of the better teams behind Crush and Terps.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they will be good, some very talented kids on the Igloo 2020 team. If the coaching is good they will be one of the better teams behind Crush and Terps.

They played one game and beat one mediocre team...get real. I love how everyone comes on here and tries to make like their team is going to be Verrry good...right behind Crush and Terps. Like the previous poster said...igloo has been together 1 month and played 1 game..seriously!

From my understanding the 2020 Igloo team consists of mostly kids from Express and 91B teams, which were/are very good teams.. so why not think these kids will continue to play good lacrosse? Confused? or are you just looking for a fight? if so we can fight, I like fighting it makes me happy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From my understanding the 2020 Igloo team consists of mostly kids from Express and 91B teams, which were/are very good teams.. so why not think these kids will continue to play good lacrosse? Confused? or are you just looking for a fight? if so we can fight, I like fighting it makes me happy.

Again, they played 1 game! Get over yourself! Stop trying to make a "buzz" about nothing. Grow up...or give the ipad back to Daddy...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From my understanding the 2020 Igloo team consists of mostly kids from Express and 91B teams, which were/are very good teams.. so why not think these kids will continue to play good lacrosse? Confused? or are you just looking for a fight? if so we can fight, I like fighting it makes me happy.

Again, they played 1 game! Get over yourself! Stop trying to make a "buzz" about nothing. Grow up...or give the ipad back to Daddy...

Legacy is the team to watch in 2020 age group...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From my understanding the 2020 Igloo team consists of mostly kids from Express and 91B teams, which were/are very good teams.. so why not think these kids will continue to play good lacrosse? Confused? or are you just looking for a fight? if so we can fight, I like fighting it makes me happy.

Again, they played 1 game! Get over yourself! Stop trying to make a "buzz" about nothing. Grow up...or give the ipad back to Daddy...

Legacy is the team to watch in 2020 age group...

Why don't you wait till you actually play in am a level tournament before you get so ahead of yourselves. It's embarrassing to your team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From my understanding the 2020 Igloo team consists of mostly kids from Express and 91B teams, which were/are very good teams.. so why not think these kids will continue to play good lacrosse? Confused? or are you just looking for a fight? if so we can fight, I like fighting it makes me happy.

Again, they played 1 game! Get over yourself! Stop trying to make a "buzz" about nothing. Grow up...or give the ipad back to Daddy...

Legacy is the team to watch in 2020 age group...

Why don't you wait till you actually play in am a level tournament before you get so ahead of yourselves. It's embarrassing to your team.

91 crush is overrated. Take it from the MD circuit. Looneys, fca, hawks are better

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 crush is overrated. Take it from the MD circuit. Looneys, fca, hawks are better

Why did Crush blow out Looneys at crabfest?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 crush is overrated. Take it from the MD circuit. Looneys, fca, hawks are better

Ha ha ha ha ha hee here hee hahaha hee hee hee! Ha ha ha hee hee!

Go back to MD board stop stirring up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 crush is overrated. Take it from the MD circuit. Looneys, fca, hawks are better

I have seen that 2020 Crush team play and I am pretty sure thet could beat my son's 2019 team and most of the other 2019 teams in and around Baltimore. They are exceptional and I wish they would play up sometimes.

Any updates from yale?

Crush won 2019a

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

What are you talking about. There were 6 brackets of 4 treams in th 2019a. There was no championships in any age bracket. . You played 3 games and than they seed you against one of the other brackets. 1 played 1, 2 played 2 and so on. There was no playofff. Stop the chest thumping. It is ridiculous. 3 teams could claim to of won the a bracket. This why people hate you. Cant you have a bit of humilty

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

What are you talking about. There were 6 brackets of 4 treams in th 2019a. There was no championships in any age bracket. . You played 3 games and than they seed you against one of the other brackets. 1 played 1, 2 played 2 and so on. There was no playofff. Stop the chest thumping. It is ridiculous. 3 teams could claim to of won the a bracket. This why people hate you. Cant you have a bit of humilty

Read the schedule- north and south #1 played and east and west #1 played-
Crush won north south game. Was only one other winner- east and west game winner- not four overall winners. There were 4 brackets for 2019 red. The other bracket was mixed teams 2020/2019- yellow. Good games today. Good tournament. Congrats to both 2019 A winners, both should be proud.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

Did not know there were A/B brackets? We were told differently. Your team must be special.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

What are you talking about. There were 6 brackets of 4 treams in th 2019a. There was no championships in any age bracket. . You played 3 games and than they seed you against one of the other brackets. 1 played 1, 2 played 2 and so on. There was no playofff. Stop the chest thumping. It is ridiculous. 3 teams could claim to of won the a bracket. This why people hate you. Cant you have a bit of humilty

Read the schedule- north and south #1 played and east and west #1 played-
Crush won north south game. Was only one other winner- east and west game winner- not four overall winners. There were 4 brackets for 2019 red. The other bracket was mixed teams 2020/2019- yellow. Good games today. Good tournament. Congrats to both 2019 A winners, both should be proud.

Ok so lets go with what you say. There were 4 divisions, And now I guess 2 winners So exactly how did crush win 2019a as they original poster stated. . Oh they did not. It was just an assanine crush parent pounding there chest. again you wonder why people hate you.

It was a 4 game play day everyone relax Regardless they played up this is a 2020 thread-management

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

What are you talking about. There were 6 brackets of 4 treams in th 2019a. There was no championships in any age bracket. . You played 3 games and than they seed you against one of the other brackets. 1 played 1, 2 played 2 and so on. There was no playofff. Stop the chest thumping. It is ridiculous. 3 teams could claim to of won the a bracket. This why people hate you. Cant you have a bit of humilty

Read the schedule- north and south #1 played and east and west #1 played-
Crush won north south game. Was only one other winner- east and west game winner- not four overall winners. There were 4 brackets for 2019 red. The other bracket was mixed teams 2020/2019- yellow. Good games today. Good tournament. Congrats to both 2019 A winners, both should be proud.

Ok so lets go with what you say. There were 4 divisions, And now I guess 2 winners So exactly how did crush win 2019a as they original poster stated. . Oh they did not. It was just an assanine crush parent pounding there chest. again you wonder why people hate you.

I don't know who the original poster is, nor why that was posted. I would guess it was not a Crush parent, as they would know they won their N/S division in the 2019 bracket. However, someone else, not in the know may have heard they won or watched the game and assumed there was only one division and responded. I would guess it was someone similar to yourself that was not in the know which is why you made an innocent mistake thinking there were 4 overall winners and 6 brackets. People make innocent mistakes, no? Seeing the glass half full is a better way to live. Congrats to both 2019 winners.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

Did not know there were A/B brackets? We were told differently. Your team must be special.

Actually I appoligize I posted that after hearing they won all 4 games just figured there was one. Actually was not present

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

Did not know there were A/B brackets? We were told differently. Your team must be special.

Actually I appoligize I posted that after hearing they won all 4 games just figured there was one. Actually was not present

Thank you for a simple explanation. Maybe the posters having heart attacks can breathe easier now that they know this was the case.

Play in a real tourney, playing up against average talent means nothing. Luck of the clover

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Play in a real tourney, playing up against average talent means nothing. Luck of the clover

Where was your team? Or do you like to insult the organizations that beat you playing in your own age group? Are you kidding?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Play in a real tourney, playing up against average talent means nothing. Luck of the clover

Wow- someone is bitter. Great job to all the 91 teams- good showing in a good tournament!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Play in a real tourney, playing up against average talent means nothing. Luck of the clover

Wether you like Crush or hate them, one thing that absolutely can't be denied is that they are always willing to challenge themselves and get better. If they decided to play in 2020 only, they would consistantly beat MOST if not All 2020 teams by at least 10 to 15 plus goals. If they did that everyone would scream they should be playing up. I am the parent of a committed 2016 and a current 2018, and they are by a wide margin some of the most talented kids I have seen for their age since I started to pay attention to this game 10 years ago, with 4 or 5 of them being out right exceptional. Wether they continue to have success depends on many things, but at least be honest and put aside the jelousy and excuses, for now in 2020 there is no one close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

Very Nice. Any scores of their games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Play in a real tourney, playing up against average talent means nothing. Luck of the clover

Wether you like Crush or hate them, one thing that absolutely can't be denied is that they are always willing to challenge themselves and get better. If they decided to play in 2020 only, they would consistantly beat MOST if not All 2020 teams by at least 10 to 15 plus goals. If they did that everyone would scream they should be playing up. I am the parent of a committed 2016 and a current 2018, and they are by a wide margin some of the most talented kids I have seen for their age since I started to pay attention to this game 10 years ago, with 4 or 5 of them being out right exceptional. Wether they continue to have success depends on many things, but at least be honest and put aside the jelousy and excuses, for now in 2020 there is no one close.

Not a true "team" though - if you watch them play you'll notice 3-5 kids do all the work, score all the goals, get all the playing time and take all the glory. You could take those kids only and put them on any other team and then that team would be the best. Will be tough for the other kids to get recruited, coaches don't look for kids that aren't allowed to dodge, run with the ball or shoot.

(I just want my kid to play and have fun while growing as a player - with a bunch of kids he likes, oh yea and get good grades in school)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Play in a real tourney, playing up against average talent means nothing. Luck of the clover

Wether you like Crush or hate them, one thing that absolutely can't be denied is that they are always willing to challenge themselves and get better. If they decided to play in 2020 only, they would consistantly beat MOST if not All 2020 teams by at least 10 to 15 plus goals. If they did that everyone would scream they should be playing up. I am the parent of a committed 2016 and a current 2018, and they are by a wide margin some of the most talented kids I have seen for their age since I started to pay attention to this game 10 years ago, with 4 or 5 of them being out right exceptional. Wether they continue to have success depends on many things, but at least be honest and put aside the jelousy and excuses, for now in 2020 there is no one close.

Not a true "team" though - if you watch them play you'll notice 3-5 kids do all the work, score all the goals, get all the playing time and take all the glory. You could take those kids only and put them on any other team and then that team would be the best. Will be tough for the other kids to get recruited, coaches don't look for kids that aren't allowed to dodge, run with the ball or shoot.

Crush D is nothing special either....probably because they get little work with the ball down in the other team's zone most of the time. You cannot convince me those players are any better than the D units on the other top 2020 teams. Crush is an offensive juggernaut powered by a small number of very, very talented kids. Agree that it is not a team made up of top players at every position.

What 2020 teams are playing this weekend

Lets just say the D is not as good as you say. Playing vs older Bigger players will help elevate them, honestly wish more teams 2020 would challenge themselves playing up. We drove to Virginia two weeks ago to play weak 2020 teams while playing 19's would help our team improve

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets just say the D is not as good as you say. Playing vs older Bigger players will help elevate them, honestly wish more teams 2020 would challenge themselves playing up. We drove to Virginia two weeks ago to play weak 2020 teams while playing 19's would help our team improve

Not necessarily....older and bigger doesn't mean "better." When they play better players who bring tight games then the D will have to step up and will get valuable experience. Believe it or not, D kids have left offensive powerhouses (e.g. Turtles) because they weren't getting enough action!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Play in a real tourney, playing up against average talent means nothing. Luck of the clover

Wether you like Crush or hate them, one thing that absolutely can't be denied is that they are always willing to challenge themselves and get better. If they decided to play in 2020 only, they would consistantly beat MOST if not All 2020 teams by at least 10 to 15 plus goals. If they did that everyone would scream they should be playing up. I am the parent of a committed 2016 and a current 2018, and they are by a wide margin some of the most talented kids I have seen for their age since I started to pay attention to this game 10 years ago, with 4 or 5 of them being out right exceptional. Wether they continue to have success depends on many things, but at least be honest and put aside the jelousy and excuses, for now in 2020 there is no one close.

Not a true "team" though - if you watch them play you'll notice 3-5 kids do all the work, score all the goals, get all the playing time and take all the glory. You could take those kids only and put them on any other team and then that team would be the best. Will be tough for the other kids to get recruited, coaches don't look for kids that aren't allowed to dodge, run with the ball or shoot.

You could say the same about the turtles, and 90% are recruited to top programs. Every kid on Crush is a talented player who would easily make any other top team. Playing time is not equal on any team, but I would rather my son be on the number one team and play a little less, while receiving top coaching and skill development. Moving forward, the showcases will separate the kids according to skill and impact. Wishing all the boys success, it is a very talented age group and many boys are just beginning to show their potential.

What was Crush score vs Little necks in their last game?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets just say the D is not as good as you say. Playing vs older Bigger players will help elevate them, honestly wish more teams 2020 would challenge themselves playing up. We drove to Virginia two weeks ago to play weak 2020 teams while playing 19's would help our team improve

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets just say the D is not as good as you say. Playing vs older Bigger players will help elevate them, honestly wish more teams 2020 would challenge themselves playing up. We drove to Virginia two weeks ago to play weak 2020 teams while playing 19's would help our team improve

Is that so Crush daddy? Is your son one of the boys that rides the bench?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets just say the D is not as good as you say. Playing vs older Bigger players will help elevate them, honestly wish more teams 2020 would challenge themselves playing up. We drove to Virginia two weeks ago to play weak 2020 teams while playing 19's would help our team improve

If you were in Virginia you would have known that this was a U13, U15, U17 bracket tournament. Stepping up to U15 playing potential 9th graders is not a wise decision.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush won 2019a

What are you talking about. There were 6 brackets of 4 treams in th 2019a. There was no championships in any age bracket. . You played 3 games and than they seed you against one of the other brackets. 1 played 1, 2 played 2 and so on. There was no playofff. Stop the chest thumping. It is ridiculous. 3 teams could claim to of won the a bracket. This why people hate you. Cant you have a bit of humilty

Read the schedule- north and south #1 played and east and west #1 played-
Crush won north south game. Was only one other winner- east and west game winner- not four overall winners. There were 4 brackets for 2019 red. The other bracket was mixed teams 2020/2019- yellow. Good games today. Good tournament. Congrats to both 2019 A winners, both should be proud.

Ok so lets go with what you say. There were 4 divisions, And now I guess 2 winners So exactly how did crush win 2019a as they original poster stated. . Oh they did not. It was just an assanine crush parent pounding there chest. again you wonder why people hate you.

Why do you care so much? Getting all worked up about what? That there were two division champions? Crush won their playoff game 9-0. Nobody was pounding there chest. A question was asked and answered. Crush was the winner of 2019, and yes there was another winner as well. You need a life!

The great thing is many if these kids will be teammates in college. The best players and teams are Still on long island

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Play in a real tourney, playing up against average talent means nothing. Luck of the clover

Wether you like Crush or hate them, one thing that absolutely can't be denied is that they are always willing to challenge themselves and get better. If they decided to play in 2020 only, they would consistantly beat MOST if not All 2020 teams by at least 10 to 15 plus goals. If they did that everyone would scream they should be playing up. I am the parent of a committed 2016 and a current 2018, and they are by a wide margin some of the most talented kids I have seen for their age since I started to pay attention to this game 10 years ago, with 4 or 5 of them being out right exceptional. Wether they continue to have success depends on many things, but at least be honest and put aside the jelousy and excuses, for now in 2020 there is no one close.

Not a true "team" though - if you watch them play you'll notice 3-5 kids do all the work, score all the goals, get all the playing time and take all the glory. You could take those kids only and put them on any other team and then that team would be the best. Will be tough for the other kids to get recruited, coaches don't look for kids that aren't allowed to dodge, run with the ball or shoot.

You could say the same about the turtles, and 90% are recruited to top programs. Every kid on Crush is a talented player who would easily make any other top team. Playing time is not equal on any team, but I would rather my son be on the number one team and play a little less, while receiving top coaching and skill development. Moving forward, the showcases will separate the kids according to skill and impact. Wishing all the boys success, it is a very talented age group and many boys are just beginning to show their potential.

Agree, many talented kids playing 2020, will be interesting to watch the group. It does seem help to be on a highly regarded team when entering the recruiting years as poster suggested was true for the Turtles. LI definatley has some major talent and many of these boys will be at college together!

3 in md....fl$ in 3d, hogan fall brawl, aloha npyll autumn classic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3 in md....fl$ in 3d, hogan fall brawl, aloha npyll autumn classic

Which teams are going where?

Blatant Fall Jam has Outlaws Black, 3 Village, Legacy Ravage and Ghost 2020 in what I guess passes for the A bracket and Outlaws Silver, Hitmen, Express North, and Breakers in the other bracket. Does anyone know anything about Ghost? This is likely the best chance Outlaws Black will ever have to win a tourney going against a true B team, a town team and an unknown team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant Fall Jam has Outlaws Black, 3 Village, Legacy Ravage and Ghost 2020 in what I guess passes for the A bracket and Outlaws Silver, Hitmen, Express North, and Breakers in the other bracket. Does anyone know anything about Ghost? This is likely the best chance Outlaws Black will ever have to win a tourney going against a true B team, a town team and an unknown team.

If they win then good for them. Outlaws don't control who signs up for their tournaments. You play whoever is there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant Fall Jam has Outlaws Black, 3 Village, Legacy Ravage and Ghost 2020 in what I guess passes for the A bracket and Outlaws Silver, Hitmen, Express North, and Breakers in the other bracket. Does anyone know anything about Ghost? This is likely the best chance Outlaws Black will ever have to win a tourney going against a true B team, a town team and an unknown team.

If they win then good for them. Outlaws don't control who signs up for their tournaments. You play whoever is there.

One, this is a Blatant tournament, not Outlaws but close enough. Two, yes, if they win, good for them. But if they can't even win this then boy are they quickly headed in the same direction as another once proud franchise that also has Silver and Black as their colors...the winless and hopeless Oakland Raiders!

Where are all the teams playing this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are all the teams playing this weekend?

Are there any lacrosse players that still play football anymore?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are all the teams playing this weekend?

On the lacrosse field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where are all the teams playing this weekend?

On the lacrosse field

Jackass comment , know exactly which team you are from traveling far from home to play b level competition once again! Pathetic

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant Fall Jam has Outlaws Black, 3 Village, Legacy Ravage and Ghost 2020 in what I guess passes for the A bracket and Outlaws Silver, Hitmen, Express North, and Breakers in the other bracket. Does anyone know anything about Ghost? This is likely the best chance Outlaws Black will ever have to win a tourney going against a true B team, a town team and an unknown team.

If they win then good for them. Outlaws don't control who signs up for their tournaments. You play whoever is there.

One, this is a Blatant tournament, not Outlaws but close enough. Two, yes, if they win, good for them. But if they can't even win this then boy are they quickly headed in the same direction as another once proud franchise that also has Silver and Black as their colors...the winless and hopeless Oakland Raiders!

Outlaws 2020 Black go 1-2 and lose to the B team of Legacy. Their only win is against
Express Team 2 who lost all of their games and go 0-3. Lots of money being spent to be on these teams that will have to enter B brackets in the spring/summer to get some wins.

Outlaws 2020 has just had some bad luck. Heard they lost two strong players due to other sports. They're a good team that just needs to sink in with a lot of new players. Trust me by the summer they might be right behind legacy A. They only lost to Express Terps 5-0 last weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Outlaws 2020 has just had some bad luck. Heard they lost two strong players due to other sports. They're a good team that just needs to sink in with a lot of new players. Trust me by the summer they might be right behind legacy A. They only lost to Express Terps 5-0 last weekend.

So they lose to Legacy B and a town team, but they will be right behind Legacy A.
Cmon dude, that's comical. Please stop with the predictable missing strong players excuse. So they were only team missing kids, correct?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant Fall Jam has Outlaws Black, 3 Village, Legacy Ravage and Ghost 2020 in what I guess passes for the A bracket and Outlaws Silver, Hitmen, Express North, and Breakers in the other bracket. Does anyone know anything about Ghost? This is likely the best chance Outlaws Black will ever have to win a tourney going against a true B team, a town team and an unknown team.

If they win then good for them. Outlaws don't control who signs up for their tournaments. You play whoever is there.

One, this is a Blatant tournament, not Outlaws but close enough. Two, yes, if they win, good for them. But if they can't even win this then boy are they quickly headed in the same direction as another once proud franchise that also has Silver and Black as their colors...the winless and hopeless Oakland Raiders!

Outlaws 2020 Black go 1-2 and lose to the B team of Legacy. Their only win is against
Express Team 2 who lost all of their games and go 0-3. Lots of money being spent to be on these teams that will have to enter B brackets in the spring/summer to get some wins.

Are you sure, i was at the Express game and they were down 6-0 in the first half. They were being dominated. Can't believe that they won that game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant Fall Jam has Outlaws Black, 3 Village, Legacy Ravage and Ghost 2020 in what I guess passes for the A bracket and Outlaws Silver, Hitmen, Express North, and Breakers in the other bracket. Does anyone know anything about Ghost? This is likely the best chance Outlaws Black will ever have to win a tourney going against a true B team, a town team and an unknown team.

So much for that. They had a losing record.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant Fall Jam has Outlaws Black, 3 Village, Legacy Ravage and Ghost 2020 in what I guess passes for the A bracket and Outlaws Silver, Hitmen, Express North, and Breakers in the other bracket. Does anyone know anything about Ghost? This is likely the best chance Outlaws Black will ever have to win a tourney going against a true B team, a town team and an unknown team.

If they win then good for them. Outlaws don't control who signs up for their tournaments. You play whoever is there.

One, this is a Blatant tournament, not Outlaws but close enough. Two, yes, if they win, good for them. But if they can't even win this then boy are they quickly headed in the same direction as another once proud franchise that also has Silver and Black as their colors...the winless and hopeless Oakland Raiders!

Outlaws 2020 Black go 1-2 and lose to the B team of Legacy. Their only win is against
Express Team 2 who lost all of their games and go 0-3. Lots of money being spent to be on these teams that will have to enter B brackets in the spring/summer to get some wins.

Are you sure, i was at the Express game and they were down 6-0 in the first half. They were being dominated. Can't believe that they won that game.

It says Outlaws 6 Express 5 on the website.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant Fall Jam has Outlaws Black, 3 Village, Legacy Ravage and Ghost 2020 in what I guess passes for the A bracket and Outlaws Silver, Hitmen, Express North, and Breakers in the other bracket. Does anyone know anything about Ghost? This is likely the best chance Outlaws Black will ever have to win a tourney going against a true B team, a town team and an unknown team.

If they win then good for them. Outlaws don't control who signs up for their tournaments. You play whoever is there.

One, this is a Blatant tournament, not Outlaws but close enough. Two, yes, if they win, good for them. But if they can't even win this then boy are they quickly headed in the same direction as another once proud franchise that also has Silver and Black as their colors...the winless and hopeless Oakland Raiders!

Outlaws 2020 Black go 1-2 and lose to the B team of Legacy. Their only win is against
Express Team 2 who lost all of their games and go 0-3. Lots of money being spent to be on these teams that will have to enter B brackets in the spring/summer to get some wins.

For the record, the Blatant site was wrong. That was Express Team 3, not Team 2, which means Outlaws lost to a town team, a B team and beat a C team by 1 goal. Oh yeah, they will end up the year right behind Legacy A. The only way that happens is if they list teams alphabetically and forget all the M's and N's.

Legacy played well in md. Congrats to the start ups

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blatant Fall Jam has Outlaws Black, 3 Village, Legacy Ravage and Ghost 2020 in what I guess passes for the A bracket and Outlaws Silver, Hitmen, Express North, and Breakers in the other bracket. Does anyone know anything about Ghost? This is likely the best chance Outlaws Black will ever have to win a tourney going against a true B team, a town team and an unknown team.

If they win then good for them. Outlaws don't control who signs up for their tournaments. You play whoever is there.

One, this is a Blatant tournament, not Outlaws but close enough. Two, yes, if they win, good for them. But if they can't even win this then boy are they quickly headed in the same direction as another once proud franchise that also has Silver and Black as their colors...the winless and hopeless Oakland Raiders!

Outlaws 2020 Black go 1-2 and lose to the B team of Legacy. Their only win is against
Express Team 2 who lost all of their games and go 0-3. Lots of money being spent to be on these teams that will have to enter B brackets in the spring/summer to get some wins.

For the record, the Blatant site was wrong. That was Express Team 3, not Team 2, which means Outlaws lost to a town team, a B team and beat a C team by 1 goal. Oh yeah, they will end up the year right behind Legacy A. The only way that happens is if they list teams alphabetically and forget all the M's and N's.

Express teams 2 and 3 have the same coach who is glad to get 2 paychecks. By the spring it will be a Chinese fire drill with kids playing on both teams.

That's not the C team donkey, that was the eight grade B team which was only playing because Ghost 2020 dropped out.

And 3 Village is just as good as most of the travel teams on LI so shut your mouth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's not the C team donkey, that was the eight grade B team which was only playing because Ghost 2020 dropped out.

There isn't a Ghost 2020 team. That was a name the tournament used until they got another team to fill in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And 3 Village is just as good as most of the travel teams on LI so shut your mouth.

You shouldn't tell people to shut their mouth when you lose to the Legacy B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's not the C team donkey, that was the eight grade B team which was only playing because Ghost 2020 dropped out.

There isn't a Ghost 2020 team. That was a name the tournament used until they got another team to fill in.

So you're saying the Express 2019 team played down?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And 3 Village is just as good as most of the travel teams on LI so shut your mouth.

LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Outlaws 2020 has just had some bad luck. Heard they lost two strong players due to other sports. They're a good team that just needs to sink in with a lot of new players. Trust me by the summer they might be right behind legacy A. They only lost to Express Terps 5-0 last weekend.

This game was not against the Express 2020 A Team (fka "Terps"), must've been against one of the other Express 2020 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And 3 Village is just as good as most of the travel teams on LI so shut your mouth.

LOL

3V is a very good town team. Definitely could be considered a B to B+ club team

3v is B- club Good town

Easy 3V. Try beating little Manhasset and CSH before you go spouting off...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Easy 3V. Try beating little Manhasset and CSH before you go spouting off...

And Port Washington

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Easy 3V. Try beating little Manhasset and CSH before you go spouting off...

And Port Washington

All good teams, let's stop the nonsense...

2019 played down because they needed another team in 2020 North so they filled in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2019 played down because they needed another team in 2020 North so they filled in.

Were the 2020 teams told they were playing an older group of kids? Didn't this happen last year at this tournament too? An older Express team playing two divisions?

Finally get a chance to see Legacy against the Terps. Game is scheduled at 2 pm this Friday. We'll see how much, if any, ground they gained since last year with the Titanium kids they added. My guess is Terps win a competitive game about 6-4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally get a chance to see Legacy against the Terps. Game is scheduled at 2 pm this Friday. We'll see how much, if any, ground they gained since last year with the Titanium kids they added. My guess is Terps win a competitive game about 6-4.

Get a life...predicting scores for a fall ball 12 year old lacrosse game?

Ground gained? No, ground lost. Terps got better. laying 5...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally get a chance to see Legacy against the Terps. Game is scheduled at 2 pm this Friday. We'll see how much, if any, ground they gained since last year with the Titanium kids they added. My guess is Terps win a competitive game about 6-4.

Did you mean 16-4?

Not sure express got better. Adding a Def and a kid Crush didn't want Legacy will own the face off X win by two. Legacy better in the goal as well. Heard it here first. Year of the Taz

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure express got better. Adding a Def and a kid Crush didn't want Legacy will own the face off X win by two. Legacy better in the goal as well. Heard it here first. Year of the Taz

Express is a much more solid team. Not sure how you figure Legacy will own the x? Terps have one of the best, even 50/50 would be a stretch. Anxious to see how it all plays out!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally get a chance to see Legacy against the Terps. Game is scheduled at 2 pm this Friday. We'll see how much, if any, ground they gained since last year with the Titanium kids they added. My guess is Terps win a competitive game about 6-4.

Get a life...predicting scores for a fall ball 12 year old lacrosse game?

Sorry to have offended you, oh wise message board blow hole...if you don't like a discussion about 12 year old lacrosse teams, don't read a message board about 12 year old lacrosse teams!

That's why they you play the game I guess. Maybe I'm wrong with my express pick then. Please post the score, will be interested to see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure express got better. Adding a Def and a kid Crush didn't want Legacy will own the face off X win by two. Legacy better in the goal as well. Heard it here first. Year of the Taz

Sounds like Legacy is better at every position then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure express got better. Adding a Def and a kid Crush didn't want Legacy will own the face off X win by two. Legacy better in the goal as well. Heard it here first. Year of the Taz

You're a typical DB lacrosse parent, who would call out 12 year old kids like you just did? Anything can happen in youth sports, but I sincerely hope your team gets their arses kicked on Friday...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure express got better. Adding a Def and a kid Crush didn't want Legacy will own the face off X win by two. Legacy better in the goal as well. Heard it here first. Year of the Taz

Sounds like Legacy is better at every position then.

hahahahahaha, can't wait to hear the excuses flow Friday night!

Legacy vs. Terps? Terps playing 8th grade bracket is TAZ also playing? is the schedule updated?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finally get a chance to see Legacy against the Terps. Game is scheduled at 2 pm this Friday. We'll see how much, if any, ground they gained since last year with the Titanium kids they added. My guess is Terps win a competitive game about 6-4.

Any other express teams playing? is this a friendly or a tournament somewhere? any other grades playing at this?

Anyone want to share their thoughts about the Jake Reed camps for the 2020's. They seem very expensive and I feel like it would be a big waste of money for a few hours of teaming. Just wondering what others think!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy vs. Terps? Terps playing 8th grade bracket is TAZ also playing? is the schedule updated?

What other teams are playing in the 8th grade bracket?

LI EXPRESS 2018 Himberger
20
LI EXPRESS 2020 Team 1
21
Team 91 2019 Stampede Black
22
Team 91 2018 Stampede
23
Li Express North 2019
24
LI EXPRESS 2019 Team 1
25
LI EXPRESS 2018 Team 2

Can you give me a list of 2020 teams that competed at the MLK Tourney last year? Thinking about registering but want to see what type of competition will be there.

It's Express Team 2 (the Wolves last year) who's playing Taz. The Terps are playing up. Legacy will definetely beat Express Team 2 by a couple of goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's Express Team 2 (the Wolves last year) who's playing Taz. The Terps are playing up. Legacy will definetely beat Express Team 2 by a couple of goals.

Legacy plays both Epress 1 and 2.
Express 1 is playing older teams in their first 2 games, but is playing against Legacy 2020 in their last game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's Express Team 2 (the Wolves last year) who's playing Taz. The Terps are playing up. Legacy will definetely beat Express Team 2 by a couple of goals.

Legacy plays both Epress 1 and 2.
Express 1 is playing older teams in their first 2 games, but is playing against Legacy 2020 in their last game.

Score?

7-5 I think

Who won Express North or Express Terps 2020?

What was legacy's record? Scores?

Express Terps beat Legacy 7-5, Express without their face off

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who won Express North or Express Terps 2020?

Express Terps beat Legacy TAZ 7 5
Very evenly matched game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express Terps beat Legacy TAZ 7 5
Very evenly matched game

Haha, Terps fogo out, would be different game

How about express team 2 against legacy taz?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express Terps beat Legacy TAZ 7 5
Very evenly matched game

Haha, Terps fogo out, would be different game

Stupid comment. Legacy goalie out. So what.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about express team 2 against legacy taz?

3-1 taz, seems like the teams are pretty much the same as last year

How did Express 1 do overall?

How did Express 2 do overall?

Are these teams close in talent? I heard Express 2 had some improvement this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express Terps beat Legacy TAZ 7 5
Very evenly matched game

Haha, Terps fogo out, would be different game

Stupid comment. Legacy goalie out. So what.

Actually Legacy's only good goalie was there, or else the score would have been worse!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express Terps beat Legacy TAZ 7 5
Very evenly matched game

Haha, Terps fogo out, would be different game

Stupid comment. Legacy goalie out. So what.

If they played 10x express would win all ten, faceoff x was only reason game was even close

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express Terps beat Legacy TAZ 7 5
Very evenly matched game

Haha, Terps fogo out, would be different game

Stupid comment. Legacy goalie out. So what.

Actually Legacy's only good goalie was there, or else the score would have been worse!

Really? Nice try goalie Dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express Terps beat Legacy TAZ 7 5
Very evenly matched game

Haha, Terps fogo out, would be different game

Stupid comment. Legacy goalie out. So what.

If they played 10x express would win all ten, faceoff x was only reason game was even close

That's really giving a lot of credit to one player and saying all the other players there were on par with Legacy. Not an Express parent, nor Legacy, but I know the Express team is really good. Give credit to more players and props to two really good teams. Why can't it be that teams are becoming more skilled? I know FOGO is important, but then you are saying the middies, defense and goalies just couldn't stop Legacy enough times to widen the gap. Let's call it a really good game between two teams and be happy LI is producing top 2020 teams. I'm sure they will meet up again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express Terps beat Legacy TAZ 7 5
Very evenly matched game

Haha, Terps fogo out, would be different game

Stupid comment. Legacy goalie out. So what.

If they played 10x express would win all ten, faceoff x was only reason game was even close

That's really giving a lot of credit to one player and saying all the other players there were on par with Legacy. Not an Express parent, nor Legacy, but I know the Express team is really good. Give credit to more players and props to two really good teams. Why can't it be that teams are becoming more skilled? I know FOGO is important, but then you are saying the middies, defense and goalies just couldn't stop Legacy enough times to widen the gap. Let's call it a really good game between two teams and be happy LI is producing top 2020 teams. I'm sure they will meet up again.

Very well said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express Terps beat Legacy TAZ 7 5
Very evenly matched game

Haha, Terps fogo out, would be different game

Stupid comment. Legacy goalie out. So what.

If they played 10x express would win all ten, faceoff x was only reason game was even close

That's really giving a lot of credit to one player and saying all the other players there were on par with Legacy. Not an Express parent, nor Legacy, but I know the Express team is really good. Give credit to more players and props to two really good teams. Why can't it be that teams are becoming more skilled? I know FOGO is important, but then you are saying the middies, defense and goalies just couldn't stop Legacy enough times to widen the gap. Let's call it a really good game between two teams and be happy LI is producing top 2020 teams. I'm sure they will meet up again.

Actually, it shows what an impact the faceoff had on a game - think faceoffs were 13-1 in favor of Legacy, that allowed them to control the ball a lot more. They had a lot more possessions and only scored 5 goals while Express scored almost every time they had there ball, so it does give credit to the entire team - your argument doesn't make much sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express Terps beat Legacy TAZ 7 5
Very evenly matched game

Haha, Terps fogo out, would be different game

Stupid comment. Legacy goalie out. So what.

If they played 10x express would win all ten, faceoff x was only reason game was even close

That's really giving a lot of credit to one player and saying all the other players there were on par with Legacy. Not an Express parent, nor Legacy, but I know the Express team is really good. Give credit to more players and props to two really good teams. Why can't it be that teams are becoming more skilled? I know FOGO is important, but then you are saying the middies, defense and goalies just couldn't stop Legacy enough times to widen the gap. Let's call it a really good game between two teams and be happy LI is producing top 2020 teams. I'm sure they will meet up again.

Actually, it shows what an impact the faceoff had on a game - think faceoffs were 13-1 in favor of Legacy, that allowed them to control the ball a lot more. They had a lot more possessions and only scored 5 goals while Express scored almost every time they had there ball, so it does give credit to the entire team - your argument doesn't make much sense.

Next time they play and Express wins all the draws, Legacy will go down hard!

Legacy also beat the crabs a couple weeks ago. Sounds like they are in the mix.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy also beat the crabs a couple weeks ago. Sounds like they are in the mix.

We need more games like this - keep lax on Long Island!

If you want to discuss every possession and score don't leave out the fact that most of Express goals were scored while Legacy was man down, had a hard time against legacy defense.

The other goalie is way better

Outlaws 2020 Black headed in the right direction, 2-1 but unfortunately losing the last game. They really came to play today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you want to discuss every possession and score don't leave out the fact that most of Express goals were scored while Legacy was man down, had a hard time against legacy defense.

Stop the nonsense

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The other goalie is way better

Singling out individuals is weak...for both positive and negative reasons. It's a team sport and it was a good game, would be great to have more stronger teams on LI.

I haven't read much about the LI Express North 2020 team. I'm sure if they are recruiting from Western CT, all of Westchester, etc they have a pretty darn good roster.

Has anyone seen them play? What did you see?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The other goalie is way better

I believe that is called an excuse. To be expected!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy also beat the crabs a couple weeks ago. Sounds like they are in the mix.

Got lucky after the Crabs destroyed them in first game. Won't happen again, especially with our new Reclassed players!

Excuses excuses. That was the same goalie they had last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The other goalie is way better

What games have you been watching? Percentages, baby!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The other goalie is way better

I believe that is called an excuse. To be expected!

Nah. No excuse. Just answering the goalies Dad saying his kid is better than the one not present. That's all.
There's never an excuse for a loss and all the smack talking is worthless when the players take the field.

Summer is what matters. Guess we will see who performs and who doesn't. Guess we will see who is still on the team and who isn't.

I have to say that the Outlaws 2020 Black team looked pretty darn good today. They obviously arent as good as the Terps, Crush, and Taz but they're headed in the right direction. They beat Jesters 12-4 today, beat Legacy Ravage and lost to West Islip when missing 5 players with only two subs,

Legacy nipping at the heels of the express ! Soon enough

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have to say that the Outlaws 2020 Black team looked pretty darn good today. They obviously arent as good as the Terps, Crush, and Taz but they're headed in the right direction. They beat Jesters 12-4 today, beat Legacy Ravage and lost to West Islip when missing 5 players with only two subs,

So they beat two B level teams and lost to a town team, and they are headed in the right direction? You certainly are a glass half full person.
And didn't they lose to the new Igloo 2020 team in Jersey?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have to say that the Outlaws 2020 Black team looked pretty darn good today. They obviously arent as good as the Terps, Crush, and Taz but they're headed in the right direction. They beat Jesters 12-4 today, beat Legacy Ravage and lost to West Islip when missing 5 players with only two subs,

Outlaws score vs Jesters was 7 4, and lost to a town team. Good team, don't exaggerate. Relax!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Outlaws 2020 Black headed in the right direction, 2-1 but unfortunately losing the last game. They really came to play today.

By the right direction, you mean into B tournaments where they belong? The Black could have played at the Mayflower and played Terps, Taz and Wolverines but better to duck the true A teams and enter tournaments with their Silver team, the Legacy B team, the Express C team and a town team and they still couldn't win. Oh yeah, Coach, your team is headed in the right direction...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy nipping at the heels of the express ! Soon enough

That's what Express said about Crush not too long ago, and.......

I'm so glad we live in PA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm so glad we live in PA

That makes two of you. Hahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer is what matters. Guess we will see who performs and who doesn't. Guess we will see who is still on the team and who isn't.

Summer only matter because you lost! Too funny!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Summer is what matters. Guess we will see who performs and who doesn't. Guess we will see who is still on the team and who isn't.

Summer only matter because you lost! Too funny!

Wasn't there. You think your smarter than you are. Good try. Your lame posts are funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy nipping at the heels of the express ! Soon enough

True, great win over express team 2, 3-1, and they should've beat you...

I guess we have our top 3 LI 2020
Crush
Express
Legacy

Next teams trail far behind

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy nipping at the heels of the express ! Soon enough

True, great win over express team 2, 3-1, and they should've beat you...

How did express 2 do against other two teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess we have our top 3 LI 2020
Crush
Express
Legacy

Next teams trail far behind

If your going to list laughable Legacy because they only lost by 2 to terps then you should have express B listed because Legacy only beat them by 2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess we have our top 3 LI 2020
Crush
Express
Legacy

Next teams trail far behind

If your going to list laughable Legacy because they only lost by 2 to terps then you should have express B listed because Legacy only beat them by 2

How many Express boys played on both teams yesterday? Goalie & the defense?!?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess we have our top 3 LI 2020
Crush
Express
Legacy

Next teams trail far behind

If your going to list laughable Legacy because they only lost by 2 to terps then you should have express B listed because Legacy only beat them by 2

Relax dude. Why are you so threatened by any success Legacy has? Remember they are young boys playing a game. Not a professional sport with Vegas odds and high priced contracts. Take a Valium and calm down. It'll be ok.

Express had 8 kids from Terps play with B team. Come on give credit where credit is due. No one is saying legacy is better then Terps. Just saying they are not to far behind just ask the boys from the Terps they think legacy is a tough team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express had 8 kids from Terps play with B team. Come on give credit where credit is due. No one is saying legacy is better then Terps. Just saying they are not to far behind just ask the boys from the Terps they think legacy is a tough team.

It was actually two. You are right, Legacy is a little better than Express 2, not close to Terps, have a long way to go before that would be true. They have a false sense without Terps Fogo, who would have gone at least 80% against Legacy. And as for the nonsense about Legacy goalie being out, Legacy has two good goalies who are equal. Not taking anything away from legacy, they are good, about the same as last year. The rankings of 1,2, and 3 (Crush, Terps, Legacy) have large gaps in between with many other teams close behind Legacy.

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

Outlaws Black really? I would put West Islip 3Village and Manhasset 32 in the mix too (Maybe CSH and Port Washington too). How are the 91 Orangemen?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

True Blue A beat Express B twice last year and one of those times Express B brought Terps to help including their fogo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

Igloo beat Outlaws Black last month

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

Add Viper between True Blue A and Outlaws black

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

I would put True Blue A in front of Express 2. And where are igloo and fl$?

How did the West Islip team do?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

I would put True Blue A in front of Express 2. And where are igloo and fl$?

You people are crazy!!

That guy was wrong I think this is the order:
Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
True Blue A
Express Team 2
Igloo
Outlaws Black
fl$
Viper A
These are the best TRAVEL teams not town teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

True Blue A beat Express B twice last year and one of those times Express B brought Terps to help including their fogo.

Exactly. Express 2 cheated by bringing kids from the A team down to play true blue and still lost. Get a grip and stop the BS. That team should not be in this list. True blue 2020 is one of the top teams after crush and express 1.

Outlaws is a good B team at best.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

Nice try Outlaws coach/parent but reality is closer to this:
1) Crush
2) Terps
3) Legacy Taz
4) Wolverines
5) True Blue
6) Team LI
7) NYC - used to Express NYC
8) Tomahawks
9) fl$
10) Igloo
11) 91 Orangemen
12) Vipers
13) Legacy Ravage
14) Outlaws
15) Jesters
True Blue was better than Wolves last year but Wolves have already had solid results and True Blue has not yet appeared so they flip flopped. Igloo and 91 Orange will likely move up during spring/summer as they are new or basically new teams. Outlaws are behind Legacy Ravage as Ravage made Blatant finals and Outlaws did not so Friday's win did not change order.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

Nice try Outlaws coach/parent but reality is closer to this:
1) Crush
2) Terps
3) Legacy Taz
4) Wolverines
5) True Blue
6) Team LI
7) NYC - used to Express NYC
8) Tomahawks
9) fl$
10) Igloo
11) 91 Orangemen
12) Vipers
13) Legacy Ravage
14) Outlaws
15) Jesters
True Blue was better than Wolves last year but Wolves have already had solid results and True Blue has not yet appeared so they flip flopped. Igloo and 91 Orange will likely move up during spring/summer as they are new or basically new teams. Outlaws are behind Legacy Ravage as Ravage made Blatant finals and Outlaws did not so Friday's win did not change order.

The real reality is ....what are your qualifications that enable YOU to be the EXPERT on youth lacrosse rankings. You seem very sour about one teams "rankings" over another, these are only kids, yes KIDS, let them play learn and have fun

Team LI, Legacy Ravage, Tomahawks, 91 Orangemen nor viper aren't that good this is reality:
Crush
Terps
Taz
True Blue A
LIE Team 2
NYC
fl$
Igloo
91 Orangemen
Outlaws
Legacy Ravage

Viper
Tomahawks
Jesters
Outlaws was moved up because they beat Legacy Ravage yesterday. fl$ is better than igloo because they've added some players from the Terps. True Blue A is better than Express team 2 because they beat them twice last year. I would like to see how the rankings will change over the course of the season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

Nice try Outlaws coach/parent but reality is closer to this:
1) Crush
2) Terps
3) Legacy Taz
4) Wolverines
5) True Blue
6) Team LI
7) NYC - used to Express NYC
8) Tomahawks
9) fl$
10) Igloo
11) 91 Orangemen
12) Vipers
13) Legacy Ravage
14) Outlaws
15) Jesters
True Blue was better than Wolves last year but Wolves have already had solid results and True Blue has not yet appeared so they flip flopped. Igloo and 91 Orange will likely move up during spring/summer as they are new or basically new teams. Outlaws are behind Legacy Ravage as Ravage made Blatant finals and Outlaws did not so Friday's win did not change order.

The real reality is ....what are your qualifications that enable YOU to be the EXPERT on youth lacrosse rankings. You seem very sour about one teams "rankings" over another, these are only kids, yes KIDS, let them play learn and have fun

Dude they are ranking 3rd and 4th grade teams on this site. You can't be surprised that they are doing it for 7th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

Nice try Outlaws coach/parent but reality is closer to this:
1) Crush
2) Terps
3) Legacy Taz
4) Wolverines
5) True Blue
6) Team LI
7) NYC - used to Express NYC
8) Tomahawks
9) fl$
10) Igloo
11) 91 Orangemen
12) Vipers
13) Legacy Ravage
14) Outlaws
15) Jesters
True Blue was better than Wolves last year but Wolves have already had solid results and True Blue has not yet appeared so they flip flopped. Igloo and 91 Orange will likely move up during spring/summer as they are new or basically new teams. Outlaws are behind Legacy Ravage as Ravage made Blatant finals and Outlaws did not so Friday's win did not change order.

Tomahawks are way too high. fl$ would beat them easily this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

Nice try Outlaws coach/parent but reality is closer to this:
1) Crush
2) Terps
3) Legacy Taz
4) Wolverines
5) True Blue
6) Team LI
7) NYC - used to Express NYC
8) Tomahawks
9) fl$
10) Igloo
11) 91 Orangemen
12) Vipers
13) Legacy Ravage
14) Outlaws
15) Jesters
True Blue was better than Wolves last year but Wolves have already had solid results and True Blue has not yet appeared so they flip flopped. Igloo and 91 Orange will likely move up during spring/summer as they are new or basically new teams. Outlaws are behind Legacy Ravage as Ravage made Blatant finals and Outlaws did not so Friday's win did not change order.

Didn't the West Islip 2020 team take Legacy to the finals yesterday?

fl$ replaced 1/3 of the 2020 team with new kids and beat some legit teams at Sweetlax. They look to have improved....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

Someone from Outlaws 2020 feels the need to project their team in a non-realistic spot. They aren't in the top 12.

Just an FYI...Outlaws Black did NOT beat Legacy Ravage yesterday...they tied. Ravage also beat them in the Blatant tournament. Get your facts straight!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just an FYI...Outlaws Black did NOT beat Legacy Ravage yesterday...they tied. Ravage also beat them in the Blatant tournament. Get your facts straight!

Who cares. Both are irrelevant as are the sad sack parents arguing about them.

Maybe CSH??? Dude, the only other town team that can give them a game when fully stocked is Manhasset. But, I think this is more of a travel team ranking than town team ranking forum as many of the players play on both...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to cause trouble but right now I think this is the ranking of the team
Team 91 Crush
Express Team 1
Legacy Taz
Express Team 2
True Blue A
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
Tomahawks
Of course between all of these teams there are big gaps in terms of whose better but right now this is how it is.

Someone from Outlaws 2020 feels the need to project their team in a non-realistic spot. They aren't in the top 12.

OK so we can see that your son didnt make the outlaw team so move on a grow up...

CSH. Awful

yeah maybe CSH when they are stacked with their 8th graders.

there are no good 8th graders to stack the team with...

"yeah maybe CSH when they are stacked with their 8th graders."

The above is a curious statement. I never saw that all last spring or summer...sour grapes from somewhere...

Saw them in PAL.....I thought CSH was a good team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw them in PAL.....I thought CSH was a good team.

CSH has one of the best Attackman/Middie on Long Island. Team is built around him.

Their Defense are all studs...

Land of the pycho dads... They are definitely one of if not the best '20 town teams around, but I predict CSH will become less relevant as they age...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Saw them in PAL.....I thought CSH was a good team.

CSH has one of the best Attackman/Middie on Long Island. Team is built around him.

ok dad

I think his name is Scott...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think his name is Scott...

Great job posting names. What's yours?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think his name is Scott...

who cares

Is this the same CSH team that the MOM keeps stats of her kid !!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome show those numbers to the Duke Coach

Please don't tell me that the stud mid/attack is the kid on crush. Please don't go there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please don't tell me that the stud mid/attack is the kid on crush. Please don't go there.

Yep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please don't tell me that the stud mid/attack is the kid on crush. Please don't go there.

Yep.

Appalling to call out a 12 year old....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please don't tell me that the stud mid/attack is the kid on crush. Please don't go there.

Yep.

Appalling to call out a 12 year old....

Next topic please.

Jesters are top 10 in the age group. Handled fl$ everytime they played last year.

jesters top 10 in every age group

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters are top 10 in the age group. Handled fl$ everytime they played last year.

....and Jesters themselves got "handled" by Garden City at the fl$ summer tournament. So either GC 34 is top 10 or you are way off on your assessment of the Jesters.

If your touting Jesters you better have more than just that one outlier win against fl$ in your cap... What is the rest of Jesters body of work? Actually, scratch that question. It doesn't matter; new season...good luck this Spring, many good teams and games to come. I think it will still be Crush, gap, Terps, gap, then everyone else jumbled between 3-10 depending on the day...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters are top 10 in the age group. Handled fl$ everytime they played last year.

But they just lost fairly convincingly to Outlaws Black at Fall Brawl and split games with them last year so they were ranked behind the Outlaws. Perhaps fl$ is too high but don't have any recent results on which to base a move up or down for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters are top 10 in the age group. Handled fl$ everytime they played last year.

....and Jesters themselves got "handled" by Garden City at the fl$ summer tournament. So either GC 34 is top 10 or you are way off on your assessment of the Jesters.

Then went on to make the finals (GC did not) and lost to Express North by 1 goal in OT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

jesters top 10 in every age group

Top 3 in 2018

If you are going to tout the Jesters you better have another data point than their one outlier victory over fl$... What is the rest of their body of work? Actually, scratch that, it doesn't mattter. New season, pletny of good teams and games soon to come in the Spring and Summer. Good luck. I think it will still be Crush, gap, Terps, gap and any number of teams 3-10 depending on the day...

Question: Is my sone getting good coaching.

Question: Is my son improving

Question: Is my son having fun and enjoying the sport

To me, those are the only questions I care about. Not who is #1,2,3,- 10 Not who beat who by home many goals. These are kids for gods sake. Let them have fun, kearn the game and get better. The rest is total BS with a whole bunch of you losers living vicariously through their kids Get a life

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question: Is my sone getting good coaching.

Question: Is my son improving

Question: Is my son having fun and enjoying the sport

To me, those are the only questions I care about. Not who is #1,2,3,- 10 Not who beat who by home many goals. These are kids for gods sake. Let them have fun, kearn the game and get better. The rest is total BS with a whole bunch of you losers living vicariously through their kids Get a life

thats what its all about well said

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters are top 10 in the age group. Handled fl$ everytime they played last year.

....and Jesters themselves got "handled" by Garden City at the fl$ summer tournament. So either GC 34 is top 10 or you are way off on your assessment of the Jesters.

Then went on to make the finals (GC did not) and lost to Express North by 1 goal in OT.

Give it a rest with this....you will never resolve anything by arguing over a Top 10 List in December. Let the season get going and then things will work themselves out. Until then it is just noise...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question: Is my sone getting good coaching.

Question: Is my son improving

Question: Is my son having fun and enjoying the sport

To me, those are the only questions I care about. Not who is #1,2,3,- 10 Not who beat who by home many goals. These are kids for gods sake. Let them have fun, kearn the game and get better. The rest is total BS with a whole bunch of you losers living vicariously through their kids Get a life

I am with you for 6th grade and under. However, by 7th grade it starts getting more serious for the better players as they try to position themselves for the early recruiting which is not far off. And while it may be too early for most, 8th-9th grade is when these kids and their club teams are ramping up for recruiting. Anyone with a kid on Crush, Terps, etc. who says it is "all about his kid having fun" etc. is full of crap. On the most competitive 2020 teams they are already thinking HS and far beyond....So these may be the only questions you are interested in, which is fine, but I am sure you do not represent the majority view of parents whose kids are top players in the 7th grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you are going to tout the Jesters you better have another data point than their one outlier victory over fl$... What is the rest of their body of work? Actually, scratch that, it doesn't mattter. New season, pletny of good teams and games soon to come in the Spring and Summer. Good luck. I think it will still be Crush, gap, Terps, gap and any number of teams 3-10 depending on the day...

Crush? wrong age group. Maybe you mean Extreme? In the fall beat fl$, tied 3D Colorado and gave Sweetlax a good game. Rolled over everyone at UPLAX and Fall Classic and did real well in Varsity bracket of Hofstra and Rutgers with all true 2018 players. 10 3 and 2 overall. Only loses to Sweetlax 2018, LB3 2017/16 and Bergan Catholic Varsity Team. That is all just in November. 1 and 2 in league of their own. 3 to 5 similar. Not 6 through 10.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question: Is my sone getting good coaching.

Question: Is my son improving

Question: Is my son having fun and enjoying the sport

To me, those are the only questions I care about. Not who is #1,2,3,- 10 Not who beat who by home many goals. These are kids for gods sake. Let them have fun, kearn the game and get better. The rest is total BS with a whole bunch of you losers living vicariously through their kids Get a life

If that is all you care about, why are you reading this message board? Are you looking for an opinion on whether your son is getting good coaching or enjoying the sport? Of course not. What you are is a typical holier than thou, I am better than all of you losers who post on this board hypocrite who should just shut the [lacrosse] up with your insults and stop pretending this is all beneath someone of your "quality". If that were really true, you wouldn't be on here at all so either live up to the values you claim to hold dear and disappear or drop the hypocrisy.

Let's be real...parents don't travle with their kids up and down the eastern seaboard from Massachussets to Florida and spend thousands on countless other trips, equipment and lessons primarily because it is "fun." It may be fun, but when people are investing that time and money it is because they believe their kid has the skills to potentially give him some type of lacrosse future...however that is defined. I suggest that belief is the primary reason for the lottery we have all entered. You have a kid who likes lax and has some talent and you are trying to help him everyway you can. End of story. Agree with the other poster that the "holier than thou" moral superiority thing is tired when talking about this age group.

7th grade people some of u are insane

Originally Posted by Anonymous

7th grade people some of u are insane

If you are on the site in the middle of the work day you are one of us insane ones my friend....welcome to the club.

How can you say Jesters 2020 are top 10. Did they even win a game last weekend ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can you say Jesters 2020 are top 10. Did they even win a game last weekend ?

yes they did. Beat express bad. Lost close game with outlaws black. Not sure how they did in 3rd game.

Jesters played a C Express team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters are top 10 in the age group. Handled fl$ everytime they played last year.

They won't be a top 15 team this year. They would have trouble cracking the top 10 if you compared them to the top 2020 town teams. They are still looking for players to fill out their roster. They were easily beat by the Outlaws and they aren't in the top 10.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How can you say Jesters 2020 are top 10. Did they even win a game last weekend ?

yes they did. Beat express bad. Lost close game with outlaws black. Not sure how they did in 3rd game.

Outlaw game was 8-3 not do close

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters played a C Express team

That seems correct by what I saw. Didn't know they had 3 2020 teams though?

8-3 isnt close and Outlaws dominated the game. Nice try

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters played a C Express team

Jesters lost to Outlaws who lost to west islip. Do the math.

Hahahahahahaha close game with Outlaws Black. The final score was 8-4. Outlaws completely dominated the second half with jesters getting the ball twice in their offensive zone.

Final score was 7-4
And game was not dominated by either team it was a good game

recuiting, scholarships are all taken already at this age by the crush all else are playing for fun face it and enjoy

I couldn't agree more. Most of the posters probably didn't even play sport or got overlooked.

Hi spilanna

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hi spilanna

At least spell the dudes name right you schmuck.

Jester team that played last week was the 2020 B team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters played a C Express team

Jesters lost to Outlaws who lost to west islip. Do the math.

Are you trying to defend losing to a town team?

And it doesn't always work that way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters are top 10 in the age group. Handled fl$ everytime they played last year.

They won't be a top 15 team this year. They would have trouble cracking the top 10 if you compared them to the top 2020 town teams. They are still looking for players to fill out their roster. They were easily beat by the Outlaws and they aren't in the top 10.

I believe they will be at and around the top ten probably 6-7 on LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hahahahahahaha close game with Outlaws Black. The final score was 8-4. Outlaws completely dominated the second half with jesters getting the ball twice in their offensive zone.

It's embarrassing for all these clubs to have you pathetic parents on here rating teams and kids, talking about dominating a fall game , who's cheating Etc. Not one parent who played any sport at any competitive level would ever resort to this type of behavior. I would guarantee you that you embarrass your kid on a daily basis and are incapable of even having a catch with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

recuiting, scholarships are all taken already at this age by the crush all else are playing for fun face it and enjoy

only 3 or 4 kids touch the ball on that team so if you're one of them you'll get a great look, others are interchangeable with just good players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jester team that played last week was the 2020 B team.

They don't have a 2020 B team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters are top 10 in the age group. Handled fl$ everytime they played last year.

They won't be a top 15 team this year. They would have trouble cracking the top 10 if you compared them to the top 2020 town teams. They are still looking for players to fill out their roster. They were easily beat by the Outlaws and they aren't in the top 10.

I believe they will be at and around the top ten probably 6-7 on LI

You must be on some type of medication.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hahahahahahaha close game with Outlaws Black. The final score was 8-4. Outlaws completely dominated the second half with jesters getting the ball twice in their offensive zone.

It's embarrassing for all these clubs to have you pathetic parents on here rating teams and kids, talking about dominating a fall game , who's cheating Etc. Not one parent who played any sport at any competitive level would ever resort to this type of behavior. I would guarantee you that you embarrass your kid on a daily basis and are incapable of even having a catch with them.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jesters played a C Express team

Jesters lost to Outlaws who lost to west islip. Do the math.

Are you trying to defend losing to a town team?

And it doesn't always work that way.

I think this means that neither the Jesters or Outlaws are B+ teams.

That was a 2021 Express team they lost to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That was a 2021 Express team they lost to.

That who lost to?

But the fact remains, if your son has talent, he'll be found. It doesn't matter if he is on the #1 team or the #10 team. If he is playing and he is good they will find him. So the pissing match about who beat who is just that. Read Starsia's recent letter on USLacrosse.

He says it doesn't matter who you play for, just be good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

But the fact remains, if your son has talent, he'll be found. It doesn't matter if he is on the #1 team or the #10 team. If he is playing and he is good they will find him. So the pissing match about who beat who is just that. Read Starsia's recent letter on USLacrosse.

He says it doesn't matter who you play for, just be good.

You're delusional

Originally Posted by Anonymous

But the fact remains, if your son has talent, he'll be found. It doesn't matter if he is on the #1 team or the #10 team. If he is playing and he is good they will find him. So the pissing match about who beat who is just that. Read Starsia's recent letter on USLacrosse.

He says it doesn't matter who you play for, just be good.

You're delusional

He is full of sh**! Look at who he recruits and where they play. Please!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That was a 2021 Express team they lost to.

No it wasn't. Knew kids on the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

But the fact remains, if your son has talent, he'll be found. It doesn't matter if he is on the #1 team or the #10 team. If he is playing and he is good they will find him. So the pissing match about who beat who is just that. Read Starsia's recent letter on USLacrosse.

He says it doesn't matter who you play for, just be good.

You're delusional

He is full of sh**! Look at who he recruits and where they play. Please!

So then can we expect to see him at some BS town tournament on LI this summer looking for that undiscovered gem of a player? Give me a break. Top college coaches go to the best tournamnents and showcases to watch the best teams play because they figure that is where they are most likely to find the best players. I think what he really means is if you are really good you will eventually get yourself onto a better team or into a showcase where he will find you. That is very different from telling people that being the best player on your 9th grade C team is going to get you noticed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

But the fact remains, if your son has talent, he'll be found. It doesn't matter if he is on the #1 team or the #10 team. If he is playing and he is good they will find him. So the pissing match about who beat who is just that. Read Starsia's recent letter on USLacrosse.

He says it doesn't matter who you play for, just be good.

You're delusional

He is full of sh**! Look at who he recruits and where they play. Please!

So then can we expect to see him at some BS town tournament on LI this summer looking for that undiscovered gem of a player? Give me a break. Top college coaches go to the best tournamnents and showcases to watch the best teams play because they figure that is where they are most likely to find the best players. I think what he really means is if you are really good you will eventually get yourself onto a better team or into a showcase where he will find you. That is very different from telling people that being the best player on your 9th grade C team is going to get you noticed.

starsia or the original poster aren't saying best players on long island or MD C teams are going to get early D1 offers. But just because you're kid is on crush, terps, crabs, looneys, rising sons or whatever the top 2020 teams are - doesn't mean coaches will be lining up for every one of them. Be an impact player when they're watching. If you're a 3rd line player for a team that wins 15-8 you won't get recruited over the kid who went 3-2 for the losing team. Also there are kids that play in non hotbed areas that are straight up athletes but their teams are weak compared to top teams in northeast. UVA might not be the best example looking at their roster

Originally Posted by Anonymous

But the fact remains, if your son has talent, he'll be found. It doesn't matter if he is on the #1 team or the #10 team. If he is playing and he is good they will find him. So the pissing match about who beat who is just that. Read Starsia's recent letter on USLacrosse.

He says it doesn't matter who you play for, just be good.

You're delusional

He is full of sh**! Look at who he recruits and where they play. Please!

So then can we expect to see him at some BS town tournament on LI this summer looking for that undiscovered gem of a player? Give me a break. Top college coaches go to the best tournamnents and showcases to watch the best teams play because they figure that is where they are most likely to find the best players. I think what he really means is if you are really good you will eventually get yourself onto a better team or into a showcase where he will find you. That is very different from telling people that being the best player on your 9th grade C team is going to get you noticed.

starsia or the original poster aren't saying best players on long island or MD C teams are going to get early D1 offers. But just because you're kid is on crush, terps, crabs, looneys, rising sons or whatever the top 2020 teams are - doesn't mean coaches will be lining up for every one of them. Be an impact player when they're watching. If you're a 3rd line player for a team that wi7ns 15-8 you won't get recruited over the kid who went 3-2 for the losing team. Also there are kids that play in non hotbed areas that are straight up athletes but their teams are weak compared to top teams in northeast. UVA might not be the best example looking at their roster

Keep telling yourself that, see where it gets you. ha

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where are most of crush kids from ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where are most of crush kids from ?

8th grade

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where are most of crush kids from ?

8th grade

thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where are most of crush kids from ?

So many snarky remarks immediately come to mind....but alas I will refrain.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where are most of crush kids from ?

8th grade

thank you

careful, your jealousy is showing. All Crush boys are in 7th, except for one 5th grade. They are from all over Long Island and Westchester.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where are most of crush kids from ?

8th grade

thank you

careful, your jealousy is showing. All Crush boys are in 7th, except for one 5th grade. They are from all over Long Island and Westchester.

And the one 5th grader also playes down on the 4th grade team also....

And he's probably old enough to be in 7th

Is that like a double negative? Also plays 4th also. Does that mean he doesn't?

Starsia is one of the biggest offenders to early recruiting

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

How about... Congrats! Job well done. Way to represent Strong Island on the left coast.

That would be great if that happened, but it very rarely ever does.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

How about... Congrats! Job well done. Way to represent Strong Island on the left coast.

Nice job, now let's face it, a long way to travel for weak competition. Let's see what you can do agsinst the real teams! Then we can talk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

How about... Congrats! Job well done. Way to represent Strong Island on the left coast.

Nice job, now let's face it, a long way to travel for weak competition. Let's see what you can do agsinst the real teams! Then we can talk

Ok well you being the authority on "real" teams, how about you post a list of the teams you feel are up to snuff?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

How about... Congrats! Job well done. Way to represent Strong Island on the left coast.

Nice job, now let's face it, a long way to travel for weak competition. Let's see what you can do agsinst the real teams! Then we can talk

I agree. Nice job on the wins but a long way to travel for weak competition .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

San Diego? What did that set you back?

Nice Job!! Great accomplishment. Go LI!! The TRUE hotbed

Hey just Curious why Crush was not present? I know JS was working on his tan down in Fla at 3D but cmon man , are they slacking ? they do not allow another organization to get any glory,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

come on man JS has a tanning booth in his house.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

What happened to the commandos? Didn't they go too?

Spray Booth , and lifetime supply of Got 2 Be Glued hair gel !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

come on man JS has a tanning booth in his house.

So Legacy flew to California to play a C tournament and people beat up on true Blue? We may be a B squad but Legacy is a double B team . Funny how this thread has been quiet til Legacy flies to San Diego so they can win a tournament . Legacy at best 4th best 2020 on LI

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

San Diego? What did that set you back?

Think Griswald family vacation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Legacy flew to California to play a C tournament and people beat up on true Blue? We may be a B squad but Legacy is a double B team . Funny how this thread has been quiet til Legacy flies to San Diego so they can win a tournament . Legacy at best 4th best 2020 on LI

Let's all wait and see what happens at Laxfest this year. That will put all of this to rest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is that like a double negative? Also plays 4th also. Does that mean he doesn't?

6th grade age, held back so he plays in 5th. 4th grade team plays up in 5th grade bracket so apparently it's ok. By the way, JS coaches both teams and the 5th grader is his kid so both of them play on the 4th grade team. I'm going to put my 5th grader on a 3rd grade team next year and dominate!

They play lacrosse in San Diego???? Competition must have been incredible. Who goes to San Diego to play lacrosse? especially youth lacrosse. Geeez. Come On Man!

nothing wrong with going to SAN Diego in Decemeber. I applaud a team that can get the commitment to do this.

Yes because express won't be there (headed to vail) and in years past Crush plays up. So yes it will be put to rest. Just embrace being who you are you will never beat Terps it was only as close as it was because our faceoff man was not healthy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Legacy flew to California to play a C tournament and people beat up on true Blue? We may be a B squad but Legacy is a double B team . Funny how this thread has been quiet til Legacy flies to San Diego so they can win a tournament . Legacy at best 4th best 2020 on LI

True Blue from Long Island did not play in San Diego.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Legacy flew to California to play a C tournament and people beat up on true Blue? We may be a B squad but Legacy is a double B team . Funny how this thread has been quiet til Legacy flies to San Diego so they can win a tournament . Legacy at best 4th best 2020 on LI

I think that True Blue is from Michigan

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes because express won't be there (headed to vail) and in years past Crush plays up. So yes it will be put to rest. Just embrace being who you are you will never beat Terps it was only as close as it was because our faceoff man was not healthy

Close game. You won. Remember, All of Express's goals were scored when they were man-up. Couldn't score on Legacy Defense. Looking forward to the rematch.

Yes, Commandos AA team went to San Diego and didn't even make the semis. So if it was a C level tournament, what level does that make them now?

Didn't crabs send players to SD with the select team ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

Who was the main competition?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes because express won't be there (headed to vail) and in years past Crush plays up. So yes it will be put to rest. Just embrace being who you are you will never beat Terps it was only as close as it was because our faceoff man was not healthy

Close game. You won. Remember, All of Express's goals were scored when they were man-up. Couldn't score on Legacy Defense. Looking forward to the rematch.

^^That's not true. I think they did score almost every time they had the ball though...face-offs were dominated by Legacy and therefore they had the ball the bulk of the game. Express was also missing one of their top middies (not the faceoff kid).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

Who was the main competition?

There was none, no good teams there. Why would they go to San Diego?

The San Diego tournament had over 100 teams. Here is an excerpt from the website:

"2015 Adrln Challenge: Sunday Recap
Six different club programs from three different state and Canada took home a championship title this weekend, with ADVNC (2), RC (3), and Seattle Starz (2) walking away with multiple trophies. Legacy TAZ 2020 will head back to New [lacrosse] having absolutely dominated their division.
Congratulations to our 2014 Adrenaline Challenge Division Champions!"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes because express won't be there (headed to vail) and in years past Crush plays up. So yes it will be put to rest. Just embrace being who you are you will never beat Terps it was only as close as it was because our faceoff man was not healthy

Close game. You won. Remember, All of Express's goals were scored when they were man-up. Couldn't score on Legacy Defense. Looking forward to the rematch.

I'm sure Express too is looking forward to the rematch. With all the Express boys dressed up next go around it will be a much bigger win for Express. Legacy is a good team, lots of new kids. They just do not have the depth that Express has. At least not right now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The San Diego tournament had over 100 teams. Here is an excerpt from the website:

"2015 Adrln Challenge: Sunday Recap
Six different club programs from three different state and Canada took home a championship title this weekend, with ADVNC (2), RC (3), and Seattle Starz (2) walking away with multiple trophies. Legacy TAZ 2020 will head back to New [lacrosse] having absolutely dominated their division.
Congratulations to our 2014 Adrenaline Challenge Division Champions!"

That would be a meaningful quote if any of those teams were any good. Let's face it, you went to San Diego to play a B/C level tournament. Trust me, nobody is impressed!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The San Diego tournament had over 100 teams. Here is an excerpt from the website:

"2015 Adrln Challenge: Sunday Recap
Six different club programs from three different state and Canada took home a championship title this weekend, with ADVNC (2), RC (3), and Seattle Starz (2) walking away with multiple trophies. Legacy TAZ 2020 will head back to New [lacrosse] having absolutely dominated their division.
Congratulations to our 2014 Adrenaline Challenge Division Champions!"

Legacy won all 6 games they played by a combined score of 83-12 so there was not much, if any, competition in the tournament. Also means Legacy played well and did what they likely should have done by pounding weaker teams. But without any known opponent for a frame of reference, for comparison purposes against the other top LI teams, the wins mean very little. I'm sure Legacy, Terps and Crush will meet at some point in the spring/summer and we can see how they stack up. And please people stop with the this kid was missing or that kid had the flu...you show up with what you have and you play the game. Do the Steelers get a do over because LaVeon Bell was hurt when they lost to the Ravens? Nope, you show up with what you have and you get the result. End of story.

It was definitely a B-C Tournament but San Diego was beautiful...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was definitely a B-C Tournament but San Diego was beautiful...

Aahh the insanity of youth lacrosse....traveling 3,000 miles for a B-C lacrosse tournament. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

As far as teams that were there. I see the Atlantic coast stars which is a crabs team was there at the u15 level. They lost to rc last year . So I think the good west coast clubs are competitive. Rc has a '21 team that gave igloo '21 a run for their money over the summer at Hofstra . So I think like any tourney competitive teams and not so competitive.

RC is a west coast team
The Seattle all stars looked pretty good at most levels

What is insane about
1. Great town
2. Great schools to look at ucsd scripps Claremont
3. Time with your son doing what they love to do

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is insane about
1. Great town
2. Great schools to look at ucsd scripps Claremont
3. Time with your son doing what they love to do

Well said and agree 100% from a non-Legacy parent! (except that Claremont is really the only great school you mention...)

Terps w a full squad 10 better

What would be better is if we had more solid teams on LI so we didn't have to travel off island for competition...I hope Legacy keeps getting better, other teams improve and we all attend the local tourneys.

take the 4 or 5 best kids from all the b teams out there and you can come up with 2 or 3 more good A teams. it wont happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What would be better is if we had more solid teams on LI so we didn't have to travel off island for competition...I hope Legacy keeps getting better, other teams improve and we all attend the local tourneys.

We do have a few solid teams on Long Island. Not every team can be a A or AA level squad.

FYI Atlantic Coast Starz U15 (2nd seeded)also didn't make the finals who were Crabs,FCA and breakers players. Commandos were seeded 1st going into playoffs on sunday but lost to RC U15 7 to 4. We blew it no excuses but ended up with 5 wins and 1 loss over the 3 days of play. Great trip and experience for our kids and we had great time in Cali.. Commando dad.
Taylor still getting to know who is who and making adjustments every game and will have it dialed in soon. See you at the next Tournament when we bring our "A" game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, Commandos AA team went to San Diego and didn't even make the semis. So if it was a C level tournament, what level does that make them now?

I watched several TAZ games and they are a legit team very aggressive players.. Dominated all weekend long.
They will beat most 2020 teams here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

How about... Congrats! Job well done. Way to represent Strong Island on the left coast.

Nice job, now let's face it, a long way to travel for weak competition. Let's see what you can do agsinst the real teams! Then we can talk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched several TAZ games and they are a legit team very aggressive players.. Dominated all weekend long.
They will beat most 2020 teams here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

How about... Congrats! Job well done. Way to represent Strong Island on the left coast.

Nice job, now let's face it, a long way to travel for weak competition. Let's see what you can do agsinst the real teams! Then we can talk

Legacy will always be the third wheel here on LI. Awkward

Such crap in lax world. My son is a 2020.. He is 12... born in 2002. U15 Starz in 2020 grad year... 16yr olds?
my son hasnt a hair on his ---- yet. Stupid

Yes they were called Atlantic Starz

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Didn't crabs send players to SD with the select team ?

West Coast teams come to Long Island all the time so why can't we go there ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They play lacrosse in San Diego???? Competition must have been incredible. Who goes to San Diego to play lacrosse? especially youth lacrosse. Geeez. Come On Man!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched several TAZ games and they are a legit team very aggressive players.. Dominated all weekend long.
They will beat most 2020 teams here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

How about... Congrats! Job well done. Way to represent Strong Island on the left coast.

Nice job, now let's face it, a long way to travel for weak competition. Let's see what you can do agsinst the real teams! Then we can talk

Legacy will always be the third wheel here on LI. Awkward

Considering that the 2 teams ahead of them are #1 and 2 in the country that isn't so bad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched several TAZ games and they are a legit team very aggressive players.. Dominated all weekend long.
They will beat most 2020 teams here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

How about... Congrats! Job well done. Way to represent Strong Island on the left coast.

Nice job, now let's face it, a long way to travel for weak competition. Let's see what you can do agsinst the real teams! Then we can talk

Legacy will always be the third wheel here on LI. Awkward

Considering that the 2 teams ahead of them are #1 and 2 in the country that isn't so bad

You are right about the #1. There is no way Express is #2 in the "country".

^^^

And then i guess it's not totally accurate to say that about #1 "team" (misnomer) either then, yes, they have the 3 best players in the age group that never leave the field or pass the ball, rest of the team is on par with the #2 and #3 teams on LI...

Put the top 4 kids from Crush on Legacy and you have a new #1 team in the country...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I watched several TAZ games and they are a legit team very aggressive players.. Dominated all weekend long.
They will beat most 2020 teams here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy Taz wins it all in San Diego!! Let the jealous bashing begin.

How about... Congrats! Job well done. Way to represent Strong Island on the left coast.

Nice job, now let's face it, a long way to travel for weak competition. Let's see what you can do agsinst the real teams! Then we can talk

Legacy will always be the third wheel here on LI. Awkward

What makes you think they will "always" be 3rd in LI. They have been here for 2 years. This year they basically took 91 Titanium players to be any good. They can't poach forever. I doubt the team has the staying power to be consistently good for many years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

^^^

And then i guess it's not totally accurate to say that about #1 "team" (misnomer) either then, yes, they have the 3 best players in the age group that never leave the field or pass the ball, rest of the team is on par with the #2 and #3 teams on LI...

The rest is on par with Express. They would beat Legacy easily without their best 3.

Legacy split with the crabs and lost to the Terps by a couple goals. I would say they are in the mix as a solid 2020 team.

Every kid on legacy was cut from crush because it was the titanium team That is the truth like it or not. Yes we beat you by a couple goals missing important pieces full squad terps by 7/8 over legacy Legacy will get better but it's still titanium with a different name

Legacy is getting better but relax, Terps are a much better team, and until Crush loses to a team in their age lets focus on other things. Looneys beat legacy IMO Sons about even . Very similar to titanium but improving

My son has never tried out for crush. Ever. Never been part of the 91 organization. Ever. Now he plays for legacy. Sorry, there goes your theory.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put the top 4 kids from Crush on Legacy and you have a new #1 team in the country...

to bad they wouldn't play 2020 if they ever left crush

Poaching ? 91 has been poaching goalies for years

Legacy will beat Terps it is only a matter of time . We were close the last time and express knows it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Put the top 4 kids from Crush on Legacy and you have a new #1 team in the country...

Kind of a ridiculous comment if you took the top 4 offensive players off any team it would change the team.
It will be fun to watch how this Legacy Express rivalry evolves. Will express attend the same tournaments as us ? My observation was express team seeming stale while Legacy seemed hungry.

[quote=Anonymous]Legacy will beat Terps it is only a matter of time . We were close the last time and express knows it [/quote

"We were close" ? Hopefully you are a child and not stupid parent who thinks they are on the team

Not an express dad. But your comments are so stupid needed to post. "We were close last time". Are you kidding me - any given day a team can be beat - also if you play them enough times a team can be beat. Worry about your kids development and stop trying to create these "rivalries". The funniest part is your kid is probably not the best on the team. But you are the one shooting your mouth off. Got to love stupid lacrosse dads

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Put the top 4 kids from Crush on Legacy and you have a new #1 team in the country...

Kind of a ridiculous comment if you took the top 4 offensive players off any team it would change the team.
It will be fun to watch how this Legacy Express rivalry evolves. Will express attend the same tournaments as us ? My observation was express team seeming stale while Legacy seemed hungry.

I think the poster was saying Crush does not necessarilly have the 20+ best kids in this age group. They probably have the best 4 and then everyone else could be swapped out for similar very talented players on one of the other top club teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Legacy will beat Terps it is only a matter of time . We were close the last time and express knows it [/quote

"We were close" ? Hopefully you are a child and not stupid parent who thinks they are on the team

Talk to some of your other dads on your Legacy teams that know the Express team and see what they say. Won't be close next time.

The comical my son's team will beat yours exemplifies the ignorance of all of the sorry [lacrosse] dads living vicariously thru their kids in this sport.
Get your kid on a team that plays and competes in A brackets in the right tournaments the next couple years and that's all that matters. College coaches recruit players not teams.

"I think the poster was saying Crush does not necessarilly have the 20+ best kids in this age group. They probably have the best 4 and then everyone else could be swapped out for similar very talented players on one of the other top club teams."

I think this statement is 100% accurate and I agree. That being said--Crush is a finally tuned machine in which every kid on the field has a role and executes it well. They work and practice more than any other team on LI and their performance on the field shows. I am a parent of a player from another '20 program and I respect the position they have earned through their work...

excuse me, finely.

Can someone please give me an idea of who the top three 2020 teams might be in Maryland?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please give me an idea of who the top three 2020 teams might be in Maryland?

Crabs
Looneys
?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please give me an idea of who the top three 2020 teams might be in Maryland?

Looneys, Annapolis Hawks, Crabs. FCA, Breakers, Roughriders good too

Any idea which one of those teams is the best?

Roughriders, from my limited exposure, does not belong on that list. fl$ beat them pretty handily... and fl$ is middle of the pack of the good LI teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any idea which one of those teams is the best?

Looney's or Hawks. Not sure how many times they've played each other. I know Hawks won at beachlax last summer in close game

Loonies last Summer although Breakers beat loonies indoor

Looneys is on top from summer and fall. Crabs is right there with them. Hawks probably third, then fca, then breakers. Lots of quality teams in 2020

Thanks for the feedback it's much appreciated...

where are the top L.I. Clubs playing this summer?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys is on top from summer and fall. Crabs is right there with them. Hawks probably third, then fca, then breakers. Lots of quality teams in 2020

except Crabs team changes constantly depending on the hold back kids who typically repeat 7th or 8th grade and then play against younger kids...doesn't seem like Looney's or Hawks deploys the same cheating/scumbag strategy...

Are colleges cheating when they redshirt a player ? NO

That "middle of the pack" fl$ 2020 team your talking about beat three quality teams at Cornell this fall and lost in the Championship to Edge from Ontario who they beat earlier in the day. Wasn't sure where you were putting them in the middle ?

Crush
Loonies
Express
Sons
Crabs
Legacy
Breakers
fl$
FCA
Hawks
Sweetlax
NH Tomahawks

Not sure why all the discussion and negativity concerning hold backs/red shirts. Why is the practice looked down upon when it is quite beneficial for the hold back and the ones choosing to stay on grade as it increases the competition level. Seems to be a win win. Thoughts??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Loonies
Express
Sons
Crabs
Legacy
Breakers
fl$
FCA
Hawks
Sweetlax
NH Tomahawks

fl$ has to win some games this spring/summer to be this high. No one cares about 7th grade fall lacrosse wins in upstate N.Y. They lost to the Jesters last year and they were not good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys is on top from summer and fall. Crabs is right there with them. Hawks probably third, then fca, then breakers. Lots of quality teams in 2020

Looneys, Breakers, Hawks based on records last spring, fall and most recently indoor box. Looneys lead with Breakers and Hawks splitting their games last spring and tourneys. Breakers beat Hawks and Looneys in indoor box this winter. FCA not overly strong at 2020 and have been beaten by all three above. Crabs would definitely be in the mix as number 1 or 2 yet a bit distorted as more than half the team are holdbacks and at this age, the extra year makes a difference and the other three do not have holdbacks. Should even out in high school. Roughriders next tier down.

Your right about last years 2020 fl$ team and look forward to the Spring/Summer with 7 new players on the team and that same team that lost to the Jesters early in the year beat a tough NH Tomahawks team at Harvard lost to the Looneys by 2 in a real close game , beat FCA, lost to a very good Legacy team and beat SweetLax this fall. Should be better and ready to compete in 2015

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are colleges cheating when they redshirt a player ? NO

It is not the same, cut the BS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are colleges cheating when they redshirt a player ? NO

That's completely different than an eighth grader playing a tenth grader. Give me a break.

You cant count box when teams aren't at full strength. Also, fca smacked breakers pretty good this fall. 9 to 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your right about last years 2020 fl$ team and look forward to the Spring/Summer with 7 new players on the team and that same team that lost to the Jesters early in the year beat a tough NH Tomahawks team at Harvard lost to the Looneys by 2 in a real close game , beat FCA, lost to a very good Legacy team and beat SweetLax this fall. Should be better and ready to compete in 2015

Wow, the north shore dad is chomping at the bit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are colleges cheating when they redshirt a player ? NO

no but by college hopefully all the kids have reached puberty...look at the AA teams and see who they're comprised of, almost all upper classmen, with a few exceptions.

Originally Posted by The Hop

Not sure why all the discussion and negativity concerning hold backs/red shirts. Why is the practice looked down upon when it is quite beneficial for the hold back and the ones choosing to stay on grade as it increases the competition level. Seems to be a win win. Thoughts??

This is likely the dumbest comment i've witnessed on BOTC and i've read a lot of dumb posts. Holding a kid back benefits only the holdback. There is no logical reason to hold a kid back, this is a relatively new phenomenon that is highly controversial for a reason...it's wrong!

I'm totally against it, but, as big a deal as it is in jr high/9th--its a non factor by the time the kids are seniors--seen it play out over and over. and why kids are committing as freshman and sophomores to middle tier academic and athletic schools fairfield,bryant, marquette is beyond me--delusional--its all for the parents ego... Really you gave up everything to sign early for that... system is flawed... no offense to those schools as they are good schools it was not my point to denigrate them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Loonies
Express
Sons
Crabs
Legacy
Breakers
fl$
FCA
Hawks
Sweetlax
NH Tomahawks

fl$ has to win some games this spring/summer to be this high. No one cares about 7th grade fall lacrosse wins in upstate N.Y. They lost to the Jesters last year and they were not good.

Back off the Jesters. They did not put themselves on this self serving BS, made up list!! They lost in OT of championship of that tournament.

I stand corrected on fl$. They had the one outlier loss and have had some good wins. When I saw them play the had some very talented players but seemed to drop off after a few good kids... they have an army of kids on the sideline...

True Blue should be above fl$. Also watch out for Igloo, new team but they will beat some of the teams on this list. Also Express team 2 is very good.

How about Madlax 2020?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Blue should be above fl$. Also watch out for Igloo, new team but they will beat some of the teams on this list. Also Express team 2 is very good.

Agreed- Express 2 and True Blue should be in middle of the pack. Strong starters, but not as much depth as better teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Blue should be above fl$. Also watch out for Igloo, new team but they will beat some of the teams on this list. Also Express team 2 is very good.

Did Express 2 get a bunch of new players? They had to drop down to B brackets last summer because they couldn't win any games in A brackets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Blue should be above fl$. Also watch out for Igloo, new team but they will beat some of the teams on this list. Also Express team 2 is very good.

Did Express 2 get a bunch of new players? They had to drop down to B brackets last summer because they couldn't win any games in A brackets.

Express 2 got beat up by B teams in Turkey shootout!

True blue- this is only good team they have in entire system. But until they play they better teams in real tournaments , they can't be on list with other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Loonies
Express
Sons
Crabs
Legacy
Breakers
fl$
FCA
Hawks
Sweetlax
NH Tomahawks

fl$ has to win some games this spring/summer to be this high. No one cares about 7th grade fall lacrosse wins in upstate N.Y. They lost to the Jesters last year and they were not good.

Back off the Jesters. They did not put themselves on this self serving BS, made up list!! They lost in OT of championship of that tournament.

And they lost to a town team in that tournament. We've been through this already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Loonies
Express
Sons
Crabs
Legacy
Breakers
fl$
FCA
Hawks
Sweetlax
NH Tomahawks

fl$ has to win some games this spring/summer to be this high. No one cares about 7th grade fall lacrosse wins in upstate N.Y. They lost to the Jesters last year and they were not good.

Back off the Jesters. They did not put themselves on this self serving BS, made up list!! They lost in OT of championship of that tournament.

And they lost to a town team in that tournament. We've been through this already.

They did. But still beat fl$ easily and went to championship. What's your point?

The point is Jesters are not being defined by that one win and fl$ is not being defined by that loss. Commenting here on each's body of work over the season and making a judgement based on that. Who cares. Let it go. New season awaits. (and they both lose to 91 by double digits are are in the mix with every other LI program)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point is Jesters are not being defined by that one win and fl$ is not being defined by that loss. Commenting here on each's body of work over the season and making a judgement based on that. Who cares. Let it go. New season awaits. (and they both lose to 91 by double digits are are in the mix with every other LI program)

Stop the nonsense, Jesters aren't "in the mix with ever other LI program" - they'd lose by 10+ to the top 5 teams on LI and 20+ to Crush.

I was being kind...does it matter. Give him a break--now we'll get the defense on why that is not the case...some things are better left unsaid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point is Jesters are not being defined by that one win and fl$ is not being defined by that loss. Commenting here on each's body of work over the season and making a judgement based on that. Who cares. Let it go. New season awaits. (and they both lose to 91 by double digits are are in the mix with every other LI program)

Stop the nonsense, Jesters aren't "in the mix with ever other LI program" - they'd lose by 10+ to the top 5 teams on LI and 20+ to Crush.

Except fl$ that they won, and the OT lose in the finals?

Except fl$ that they won, and the OT lose in the finals? - Drunk again Mister?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Loonies
Express
Sons
Crabs
Legacy
Breakers
fl$
FCA
Hawks
Sweetlax
NH Tomahawks

fl$ has to win some games this spring/summer to be this high. No one cares about 7th grade fall lacrosse wins in upstate N.Y. They lost to the Jesters last year and they were not good.

Back off the Jesters. They did not put themselves on this self serving BS, made up list!! They lost in OT of championship of that tournament.

And they lost to a town team in that tournament. We've been through this already.

The mighty GC 34!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except fl$ that they won, and the OT lose in the finals? - Drunk again Mister?

Was that hard for you to comprehend ?

You need me to slow down mister? ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Loonies
Express
Sons
Crabs
Legacy
Breakers
fl$
FCA
Hawks
Sweetlax
NH Tomahawks

fl$ has to win some games this spring/summer to be this high. No one cares about 7th grade fall lacrosse wins in upstate N.Y. They lost to the Jesters last year and they were not good.

Back off the Jesters. They did not put themselves on this self serving BS, made up list!! They lost in OT of championship of that tournament.

And they lost to a town team in that tournament. We've been through this already.

The mighty GC 34!!!!

Mighty? Were they 1-7 or 2-6 in the 6th grade A division of PAL last year? I think there only win was against Bayville.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except fl$ that they won, and the OT lose in the finals? - Drunk again Mister?

Was that hard for you to comprehend ?

You need me to slow down mister? ??

What does "and the OT lose" mean? Was that supposed to be OT loss?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except fl$ that they won, and the OT lose in the finals? - Drunk again Mister?

Was that hard for you to comprehend ?

You need me to slow down mister? ??

What does "and the OT lose" mean? Was that supposed to be OT loss?

Didn't write it , but that would make sense. Stop looking for grammatical and spelling errors and spend some time with your kids or shoveling.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except fl$ that they won, and the OT lose in the finals? - Drunk again Mister?

Was that hard for you to comprehend ?

You need me to slow down mister? ??

Tell me slowly who else you beat. Name one quality team. Just one. You hang your hat on that one win - and you won, everyone knows that. Give us one more quality win. Just one. Don't come on here and yada, yada, yada we only lost by one it o/t or we almost beat so and so. Remember, just one.

Maybe you will get a chance to play them again at Laxfest if you come out of the B Division.

Stop with the nonsense and quit while you are ahead.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except fl$ that they won, and the OT lose in the finals? - Drunk again Mister?

Was that hard for you to comprehend ?

You need me to slow down mister? ??

What does "and the OT lose" mean? Was that supposed to be OT loss?

Didn't write it , but that would make sense. Stop looking for grammatical and spelling errors and spend some time with your kids or shoveling.

And are spending time with your kids while you are writing on here telling me to stop looking for errors? Comically hypocritical.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except fl$ that they won, and the OT lose in the finals? - Drunk again Mister?

Was that hard for you to comprehend ?

You need me to slow down mister? ??

What does "and the OT lose" mean? Was that supposed to be OT loss?

Didn't write it , but that would make sense. Stop looking for grammatical and spelling errors and spend some time with your kids or shoveling.

And are spending time with your kids while you are writing on here telling me to stop looking for errors? Comically hypocritical.

This whole conversation needs a time out!!!

Originally Posted by The Hop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except fl$ that they won, and the OT lose in the finals? - Drunk again Mister?

Was that hard for you to comprehend ?

You need me to slow down mister? ??

What does "and the OT lose" mean? Was that supposed to be OT loss?

Didn't write it , but that would make sense. Stop looking for grammatical and spelling errors and spend some time with your kids or shoveling.

And are spending time with your kids while you are writing on here telling me to stop looking for errors? Comically hypocritical.

This whole conversation needs a time out!!!

Boys... You look like idiots, both of you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except fl$ that they won, and the OT lose in the finals? - Drunk again Mister?

Was that hard for you to comprehend ?

You need me to slow down mister? ??

What does "and the OT lose" mean? Was that supposed to be OT loss?

Didn't write it , but that would make sense. Stop looking for grammatical and spelling errors and spend some time with your kids or shoveling.

And are spending time with your kids while you are writing on here telling me to stop looking for errors? Comically hypocritical.

This has to be a kid?!

I'm not from GC, but in defense of their PAL Division A team going 1-7 in the division; yes this is true but a number of their studs Did not play on that team due to their program politics and commitments to outside teams. Twop best middies and best D man for starters were not on that PAL squad--I'm sure there are others as well...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm not from GC, but in defense of their PAL Division A team going 1-7 in the division; yes this is true but a number of their studs Did not play on that team due to their program politics and commitments to outside teams. Twop best middies and best D man for starters were not on that PAL squad--I'm sure there are others as well...

You know an awful lot about the program for someone who supposedly doesn't live in GC. By the way, the "mighty GC 34" comment was sarcasm.

My team was in the division and I know the players Mr. Skeptical.

You men are all whiney bitches on this site. Not just this thread all over. No tough guys here. All tanned , nice clothes , big $$ , bitches. Comparing 12/13 year old teams . How embarrassing . Yor own kids probobly hate you and you don't even know it. Hahaha.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You men are all whiney bitches on this site. Not just this thread all over. No tough guys here. All tanned , nice clothes , big $$ , bitches. Comparing 12/13 year old teams . How embarrassing . Yor own kids probobly hate you and you don't even know it. Hahaha.

Just so I understand. According to you there are no "tough guys" here besides you right?
Everyone else is:
-tanned
-has nice clothes
-has big money
-takes interest in their kids lacrosse teams

Hmmm.....I'll take everyone else and you can go back to your trailer!

Lol. Unfortunately, I'm not tan...

I bet that's a Moms post. Her husband is probably a tough guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I bet that's a Moms post. Her husband is probably a tough guy.

On a lighter note. What teams are doing Shamrock?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True Blue should be above fl$. Also watch out for Igloo, new team but they will beat some of the teams on this list. Also Express team 2 is very good.

Did Express 2 get a bunch of new players? They had to drop down to B brackets last summer because they couldn't win any games in A brackets.

Express 2 got beat up by B teams in Turkey shootout!

True blue- this is only good team they have in entire system. But until they play they better teams in real tournaments , they can't be on list with other teams.

True Blue has their tournaments posted. 2020 is playing in fl$, L.I. Laxfest, Madlax in Md. and NXT in Philly.
Those aren't real tournaments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys is on top from summer and fall. Crabs is right there with them. Hawks probably third, then fca, then breakers. Lots of quality teams in 2020

Looneys, Breakers, Hawks based on records last spring, fall and most recently indoor box. Looneys lead with Breakers and Hawks splitting their games last spring and tourneys. Breakers beat Hawks and Looneys in indoor box this winter. FCA not overly strong at 2020 and have been beaten by all three above. Crabs would definitely be in the mix as number 1 or 2 yet a bit distorted as more than half the team are holdbacks and at this age, the extra year makes a difference and the other three do not have holdbacks. Should even out in high school. Roughriders next tier down.

Where area are the Hawks based out of?

What area that is

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys is on top from summer and fall. Crabs is right there with them. Hawks probably third, then fca, then breakers. Lots of quality teams in 2020

Looneys, Breakers, Hawks based on records last spring, fall and most recently indoor box. Looneys lead with Breakers and Hawks splitting their games last spring and tourneys. Breakers beat Hawks and Looneys in indoor box this winter. FCA not overly strong at 2020 and have been beaten by all three above. Crabs would definitely be in the mix as number 1 or 2 yet a bit distorted as more than half the team are holdbacks and at this age, the extra year makes a difference and the other three do not have holdbacks. Should even out in high school. Roughriders next tier down.

Where area are the Hawks based out of?

Annapolis

Looneys are looney!!!!! Could never even walk on the same field as Crush.

No 2020 team can walk on the field with crush. Most 2019 can't

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No 2020 team can walk on the field with crush. Most 2019 can't

Crush is the best team to be sure, but most 2020 players want to play them. No one fears Crush anymore. The kids have adjusted to the fact that Crush has recruited the biggest and best players. But now as all the boys begin to grow, the fear factor is gone. Let's hope Crush plays more at 2020 this year. It will make all the teams better.

Not to sound rude or belittling but We get it! Crush is the best team - most people including Express parents can agree, try to keep the conversation productive. No need for the "no team can walk on the field with Crush" comments its silly and a waste of space. You are entitled to be proud of your sons but don't waste our time here. I come here to try and understand the landscape in my son's year. These comments are helpful - but not to your cause. I met a guy last week who was a really nice guy then he told me his son played on Crush and I immediately started to have second thoughts about the guy. Don't reinforce the stereotype that most Long Island parents have of you please!

"Can't we all just get along?" (author unknown)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not to sound rude or belittling but We get it! Crush is the best team - most people including Express parents can agree, try to keep the conversation productive. No need for the "no team can walk on the field with Crush" comments its silly and a waste of space. You are entitled to be proud of your sons but don't waste our time here. I come here to try and understand the landscape in my son's year. These comments are helpful - but not to your cause. I met a guy last week who was a really nice guy then he told me his son played on Crush and I immediately started to have second thoughts about the guy. Don't reinforce the stereotype that most Long Island parents have of you please!

"Can't we all just get along?" (author unknown)

The comment was probably from someone trying to stir things up. Judge those by what you see, not what you've heard. Most of the families on Crush and other top teams that I have met are not crazies, it's just people talking cr@p about them. Of course there is always a bad apple here and there that can ruin it for everyone.

It is becoming quite clear that the Maryland crazies have inundated this board . So let it be clear down in MARY land. Crush is 12 plus goals better than all Maryland squads and the terps are 7plus better and soon Legacy will be as well. Soooooo to sum it all up the three top 2020 teams are from Long Island

Loonies will be at Rising Sons Spring Event, we will see then where Express and Legacy stack up. March 22 @ The Hill
Loonies, Crabs, Sons, Express, fl$, Legacy- 2020's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonies will be at Rising Sons Spring Event, we will see then where Express and Legacy stack up. March 22 @ The Hill
Loonies, Crabs, Sons, Express, fl$, Legacy- 2020's

That sounds like a great day- I still think you will see Express come out on top- but all games should be competitive. Hopefully the weather cooperates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Loonies will be at Rising Sons Spring Event, we will see then where Express and Legacy stack up. March 22 @ The Hill
Loonies, Crabs, Sons, Express, fl$, Legacy- 2020's

That sounds like a great day- I still think you will see Express come out on top- but all games should be competitive. Hopefully the weather cooperates.

Crabs and Sons will stack their teams with older kids like they normally do.

I can't speak for the Crabs but we know the Sons guys really well, their roster is legit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can't speak for the Crabs but we know the Sons guys really well, their roster is legit.

Ask the other coaches from the philly area if the sons' roster is legit...unfortunately they seem to populating the squad with holdbacks. simple system that goes by calendar year birthdates would fix all this debate, and then go to age-based play in HS when most kids will have gone through puberty.

Nope but like anything else no one is changing anyone's mind. They only have 1 or 2 kids that even go to a prep school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope but like anything else no one is changing anyone's mind. They only have 1 or 2 kids that even go to a prep school.

Actually, wouldn't it be great if coaches had their kids bring their birth certificates? Then there can be no excuses- you lose to Team A- the loss is a loss and not because it was because of holdbacks. Personally, I think if your team is good enough and you have nothing to hide- you'd want to flaunt your on age team's success. You'd have to go by US LAX age guidelines- born after August 31st, and not LI's age cut off of Dec 1st.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope but like anything else no one is changing anyone's mind. They only have 1 or 2 kids that even go to a prep school.

Actually, wouldn't it be great if coaches had their kids bring their birth certificates? Then there can be no excuses- you lose to Team A- the loss is a loss and not because it was because of holdbacks. Personally, I think if your team is good enough and you have nothing to hide- you'd want to flaunt your on age team's success. You'd have to go by US LAX age guidelines- born after August 31st, and not LI's age cut off of Dec 1st.

Well said

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope but like anything else no one is changing anyone's mind. They only have 1 or 2 kids that even go to a prep school.

Actually, wouldn't it be great if coaches had their kids bring their birth certificates? Then there can be no excuses- you lose to Team A- the loss is a loss and not because it was because of holdbacks. Personally, I think if your team is good enough and you have nothing to hide- you'd want to flaunt your on age team's success. You'd have to go by US LAX age guidelines- born after August 31st, and not LI's age cut off of Dec 1st.

Well said

I say get vynl decals for the back of the helmet with m/yr. similar to those hit man football disks on the football helmets. I would love to applaud those who play up...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope but like anything else no one is changing anyone's mind. They only have 1 or 2 kids that even go to a prep school.

Actually, wouldn't it be great if coaches had their kids bring their birth certificates? Then there can be no excuses- you lose to Team A- the loss is a loss and not because it was because of holdbacks. Personally, I think if your team is good enough and you have nothing to hide- you'd want to flaunt your on age team's success. You'd have to go by US LAX age guidelines- born after August 31st, and not LI's age cut off of Dec 1st.

Well said

I say get vynl decals for the back of the helmet with m/yr. similar to those hit man football disks on the football helmets. I would love to applaud those who play up...

Get a life already....They are 12 year old playing a sport. They don't need anymore recognition

Why no Express or Crush at Philadelphia Box Championships? Rising Sons won their division, we can't let that happen. Strong Island needs to send teams and win everything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why no Express or Crush at Philadelphia Box Championships? Rising Sons won their division, we can't let that happen. Strong Island needs to send teams and win everything.

How about instead a family winter vacation with no sports in warm weather.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why no Express or Crush at Philadelphia Box Championships? Rising Sons won their division, we can't let that happen. Strong Island needs to send teams and win everything.

How about instead a family winter vacation with no sports in warm weather.

It does not matter- they would be playing in the A division.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nope but like anything else no one is changing anyone's mind. They only have 1 or 2 kids that even go to a prep school.

Actually, wouldn't it be great if coaches had their kids bring their birth certificates? Then there can be no excuses- you lose to Team A- the loss is a loss and not because it was because of holdbacks. Personally, I think if your team is good enough and you have nothing to hide- you'd want to flaunt your on age team's success. You'd have to go by US LAX age guidelines- born after August 31st, and not LI's age cut off of Dec 1st.

Well said

I say get vynl decals for the back of the helmet with m/yr. similar to those hit man football disks on the football helmets. I would love to applaud those who play up...

Get a life already....They are 12 year old playing a sport. They don't need anymore recognition

Not really for recognition but validation.

Is there any way to get 2020 teams on the island to play each other outside of tournaments? It does not seem like there are a lot of "friendlys" to use a soccer term. Are the directors so adverse to playing one on one games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is there any way to get 2020 teams on the island to play each other outside of tournaments? It does not seem like there are a lot of "friendlys" to use a soccer term. Are the directors so adverse to playing one on one games?

Those games are typically set up by the head coaches.
I agree that it's a good idea. Play one good full game with 12 minute quarters, time outs, regular man-up, man-down.

Yeah yeah, MD teams big deal

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah yeah, MD teams big deal

What does this mean or refer to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah yeah, MD teams big deal

What does this mean or refer to?

We heard your big clubs FCA and Breakers got smoked by the Sons. Haha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah yeah, MD teams big deal

What does this mean or refer to?

We heard your big clubs FCA and Breakers got smoked by the Sons. Haha

Didn't Express play the Sons in the fall?

2020 Travel Team Goalie Needed
For more information, please email laxwall2020@gmail.com
thanks

Looks like express Terps are still looking for a goaltender. At least it's no longer just whispers

Thanks, I am reclassing my 2019 goalie so I will be in touch

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah yeah, MD teams big deal

What does this mean or refer to?

We heard your big clubs FCA and Breakers got smoked by the Sons. Haha

Neither FCA or Breakers are close to being the best 2020 teams in MD, so not sure what your point is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like express Terps are still looking for a
goaltender. At least it's no longer just whispers

Comment makes no sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like express Terps are still looking for a
goaltender. At least it's no longer just whispers

Comment makes no sense.

My thoughts exactly. Two awesome goalies on that team. No need to look elsewhere.

Your wrong but the order is as follows.
Crabs,Hawks,FCA,breakers,looneys In order from left to right.

Not sure where you get your info from. Looneys has beaten all of these teams for the past couple years and as recently as this fall. Crabs has beaten all others for the past few years, fca crushed breakers this fall...hawks beat breakers
Order is more like, looneys, crabs, hawks, fca, breakers

As a long islander weighing in based on results over the past year vs. my sons team I concur with the above rankings.

I agree, looneys and crabs are the best in md. Others listed are competitive

Should be an interesting day next Sunday for Terps, Legacy and fl$ as they play these teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be an interesting day next Sunday for Terps, Legacy and fl$ as they play these teams.

Best guess is that Terps and Legacy both go undefeated and fl$ plays 3 close games but loses 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be an interesting day next Sunday for Terps, Legacy and fl$ as they play these teams.

Best guess is that Terps and Legacy both go undefeated and fl$ plays 3 close games but loses 2.

That outcome depends on how many 2019 and older kids the Sons and Crabs bring down to play with their 2020 boys. Should be a good day of lacrosse either way.

How come Crush isn't playing in this tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be an interesting day next Sunday for Terps, Legacy and fl$ as they play these teams.

Best guess is that Terps and Legacy both go undefeated and fl$ plays 3 close games but loses 2.

That outcome depends on how many 2019 and older kids the Sons and Crabs bring down to play with their 2020 boys. Should be a good day of lacrosse either way.

Attaboy, get those excuses out there early.

Sons do not have any 2019's or hold backs or reclassed. Zero.

Heard Loonies will have the best face off kid there.

Oh really Dad!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Loonies will have the best face off kid there.

Didn't look that way at crabfest last summer! But he could hang, just not the elite.

Nothing real interesting on the hill. This warm up proves nothing.

Looney picked up a fla kid for face offs. I was down in Florida to watch him destroy the crush fogo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney picked up a fla kid for face offs. I was down in Florida to watch him destroy the crush fogo

When was a crush fogo in Florida?

Looney trash talk is entertainment at its finest. Mr looney fogo dad dismiss yourself Looneys will start losing players to crabs soon

Heard the same

How about everyone just appreciates there is talent on all of these teams. Should be a fun year to watch some good 2020 games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about everyone just appreciates there is talent on all of these teams. Should be a fun year to watch some good 2020 games

Exactly. The mission should not be championship chasing, thats silly. Focus on getting the kids to be the best players on and off the field that they can be. These events only help some of the top players play against the best out there. Kids, and parents, should leave these events regardless of win/loss and see what they need to work on.

Proof will be on the field. I say Express takes all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney picked up a fla kid for face offs. I was down in Florida to watch him destroy the crush fogo

Flying a kid in from Florida to win face-offs at a Spring Play Day? Please tell me you are kidding....

is it the '19 kid?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney picked up a fla kid for face offs. I was down in Florida to watch him destroy the crush fogo

Flying a kid in from Florida to win face-offs at a Spring Play Day? Please tell me you are kidding....

family moved to md

If SO, HOW COULD THAT BE?????? It's a'20 playdate? why would anyone allow that--the tournament organizers or the opponents for that matter?? Hopefully just heresay and pititful slandering. I can't imagine anyone bringing an older kid down to play.

Florida Fogo is a 2020 and usually plays 2019, 2018 and 2017... He's joining the Looney organization as a full time member and will be attending all tournaments Spring and Summer with the 2020 Looneys... He is age appropriate and always plays up... He's a competitive Fogo and just looking to test himself against kids his own age, no claims that he's better than any of the kids in NY and Maryland but should be interesting to see how he measures up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Florida Fogo is a 2020 and usually plays 2019, 2018 and 2017... He's joining the Looney organization as a full time member and will be attending all tournaments Spring and Summer with the 2020 Looneys... He is age appropriate and always plays up... He's a competitive Fogo and just looking to test himself against kids his own age, no claims that he's better than any of the kids in NY and Maryland but should be interesting to see how he measures up.

Define age appropriate. not sure what that means any more.

cool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney picked up a fla kid for face offs. I was down in Florida to watch him destroy the crush fogo

Flying a kid in from Florida to win face-offs at a Spring Play Day? Please tell me you are kidding....

family moved to md

Congratulations, you just put a lot of pressure on this poor kid, hope he produces!

Family did not move to Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney picked up a fla kid for face offs. I was down in Florida to watch him destroy the crush fogo

Flying a kid in from Florida to win face-offs at a Spring Play Day? Please tell me you are kidding....

family moved to md

Congratulations, you just put a lot of pressure on this poor kid, hope he produces!

I'm not sure what fogo or .tournament your talking about cause the Looney's didn't make it pass LI Express to ever play 91 Crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney picked up a fla kid for face offs. I was down in Florida to watch him destroy the crush fogo

Flying a kid in from Florida to win face-offs at a Spring Play Day? Please tell me you are kidding....

family moved to md

Congratulations, you just put a lot of pressure on this poor kid, hope he produces!

I'm not sure what fogo or .tournament your talking about cause the Looney's didn't make it pass LI Express to ever play 91 Crush.

Looneya lost badly to Crush last summer at crabfest championship game, crush fogo dominant. Just the facts

What year is that fogo kid from fla? There was a fogo last year from fla that flew up to play at jesters.

have you guys seen the fogo kid from Cuba? Working on his papers right now, if they go through we are all in trouble.

lol

Looking at a fogo from B.C. Too. Monster. Let's win

Hello rg

Madlax tweeted about a win for Madlax 2020 vs LI Express yesterday. Is this true? If so, what happened to LI Express? Madlax 2020 lost 16-3 to the Baltimore Breakers earlier in the day and are likely to finish in the bottom half of the NPYLL this Spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Family did not move to Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Family did not move to Maryland.

He is playing with their 2020s on weekends so is he flying up every weekend? Amazing that at 12 and 13 a team would put this much focus on a fogo rather than continue his development as a more diverse player and that of the rest of the team. Good strategy for winning but feel for the kids having a different experience than most of their peers.

Heard it was some kind of all star team mad lax put together and not their real 7th grade team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax tweeted about a win for Madlax 2020 vs LI Express yesterday. Is this true? If so, what happened to LI Express? Madlax 2020 lost 16-3 to the Baltimore Breakers earlier in the day and are likely to finish in the bottom half of the NPYLL this Spring.

Mid-Atlantic Madness is this weekend with Express, Legacy and fl$ playing Bucks, Looneys and Rising Sons so it will be very easy to tell if Express is still #2 on the Island and likely in the country based on how this weekend goes. So just relax and take a deep breath and come back off the ledge.

Looks like the weather is going to be perfect for this weekend. Looking forward to seeing how our teams from Strong Island do. Should all be strong games. My guess LI goes 6-3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax tweeted about a win for Madlax 2020 vs LI Express yesterday. Is this true? If so, what happened to LI Express? Madlax 2020 lost 16-3 to the Baltimore Breakers earlier in the day and are likely to finish in the bottom half of the NPYLL this Spring.

Mid-Atlantic Madness is this weekend with Express, Legacy and fl$ playing Bucks, Looneys and Rising Sons so it will be very easy to tell if Express is still #2 on the Island and likely in the country based on how this weekend goes. So just relax and take a deep breath and come back off the ledge.

And likely the country? Lighten up on the hyperbole.

Rising sons, express, then looneys In order on how they finish.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax tweeted about a win for Madlax 2020 vs LI Express yesterday. Is this true? If so, what happened to LI Express? Madlax 2020 lost 16-3 to the Baltimore Breakers earlier in the day and are likely to finish in the bottom half of the NPYLL this Spring.

Mid-Atlantic Madness is this weekend with Express, Legacy and fl$ playing Bucks, Looneys and Rising Sons so it will be very easy to tell if Express is still #2 on the Island and likely in the country based on how this weekend goes. So just relax and take a deep breath and come back off the ledge.

I hope the Bucks 2020 team improved. They were a B team last year and I'm surprised to see them playing with these teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax tweeted about a win for Madlax 2020 vs LI Express yesterday. Is this true? If so, what happened to LI Express? Madlax 2020 lost 16-3 to the Baltimore Breakers earlier in the day and are likely to finish in the bottom half of the NPYLL this Spring.

Mid-Atlantic Madness is this weekend with Express, Legacy and fl$ playing Bucks, Looneys and Rising Sons so it will be very easy to tell if Express is still #2 on the Island and likely in the country based on how this weekend goes. So just relax and take a deep breath and come back off the ledge.

And likely the country? Lighten up on the hyperbole.

Who would be better? And please put some facts behind your opinion like Terps lost to such and such team by this score at this tournament. Not the typical Rising Sons would destroy them nonsense. If you don't have any facts, consider your opinion like your butt hole, every knows you have one but no one wants to hear it!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax tweeted about a win for Madlax 2020 vs LI Express yesterday. Is this true? If so, what happened to LI Express? Madlax 2020 lost 16-3 to the Baltimore Breakers earlier in the day and are likely to finish in the bottom half of the NPYLL this Spring.

Mid-Atlantic Madness is this weekend with Express, Legacy and fl$ playing Bucks, Looneys and Rising Sons so it will be very easy to tell if Express is still #2 on the Island and likely in the country based on how this weekend goes. So just relax and take a deep breath and come back off the ledge.

And likely the country? Lighten up on the hyperbole.

Who would be better? And please put some facts behind your opinion like Terps lost to such and such team by this score at this tournament. Not the typical Rising Sons would destroy them nonsense. If you don't have any facts, consider your opinion like your butt hole, every knows you have one but no one wants to hear it!

They were beaten by Crabs and Sweetlax last summer at the crabfest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax tweeted about a win for Madlax 2020 vs LI Express yesterday. Is this true? If so, what happened to LI Express? Madlax 2020 lost 16-3 to the Baltimore Breakers earlier in the day and are likely to finish in the bottom half of the NPYLL this Spring.

Mid-Atlantic Madness is this weekend with Express, Legacy and fl$ playing Bucks, Looneys and Rising Sons so it will be very easy to tell if Express is still #2 on the Island and likely in the country based on how this weekend goes. So just relax and take a deep breath and come back off the ledge.

And likely the country? Lighten up on the hyperbole.

Who would be better? And please put some facts behind your opinion like Terps lost to such and such team by this score at this tournament. Not the typical Rising Sons would destroy them nonsense. If you don't have any facts, consider your opinion like your butt hole, every knows you have one but no one wants to hear it!

Have you seen all the best 7th grade teams in Ohio, Michigan, California or any of the other states that play lacrosse now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax tweeted about a win for Madlax 2020 vs LI Express yesterday. Is this true? If so, what happened to LI Express? Madlax 2020 lost 16-3 to the Baltimore Breakers earlier in the day and are likely to finish in the bottom half of the NPYLL this Spring.

Mid-Atlantic Madness is this weekend with Express, Legacy and fl$ playing Bucks, Looneys and Rising Sons so it will be very easy to tell if Express is still #2 on the Island and likely in the country based on how this weekend goes. So just relax and take a deep breath and come back off the ledge.

And likely the country? Lighten up on the hyperbole.

Who would be better? And please put some facts behind your opinion like Terps lost to such and such team by this score at this tournament. Not the typical Rising Sons would destroy them nonsense. If you don't have any facts, consider your opinion like your butt hole, every knows you have one but no one wants to hear it!

They were beaten by Crabs and Sweetlax last summer at the crabfest.

And in that same tournament the Crabs were beaten by Rising Sons who were beaten by the Terps and Sweetlax was crushed by Looney's who lost to NH Tomahawks who were beaten by the Terps. Sweetlax was a bad loss even though it was 7-6 but every team in that tournament (except for Crush) lost at least one game to a team other than the Crush. To me, that proves there is no clear cut #2 so the Terps definitely belong in the conversation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax tweeted about a win for Madlax 2020 vs LI Express yesterday. Is this true? If so, what happened to LI Express? Madlax 2020 lost 16-3 to the Baltimore Breakers earlier in the day and are likely to finish in the bottom half of the NPYLL this Spring.

Mid-Atlantic Madness is this weekend with Express, Legacy and fl$ playing Bucks, Looneys and Rising Sons so it will be very easy to tell if Express is still #2 on the Island and likely in the country based on how this weekend goes. So just relax and take a deep breath and come back off the ledge.

And likely the country? Lighten up on the hyperbole.

Who would be better? And please put some facts behind your opinion like Terps lost to such and such team by this score at this tournament. Not the typical Rising Sons would destroy them nonsense. If you don't have any facts, consider your opinion like your butt hole, every knows you have one but no one wants to hear it!

They were beaten by Crabs and Sweetlax last summer at the crabfest.

And in that same tournament the Crabs were beaten by Rising Sons who were beaten by the Terps and Sweetlax was crushed by Looney's who lost to NH Tomahawks who were beaten by the Terps. Sweetlax was a bad loss even though it was 7-6 but every team in that tournament (except for Crush) lost at least one game to a team other than the Crush. To me, that proves there is no clear cut #2 so the Terps definitely belong in the conversation.

Crabs were not beat by sons, they were beat by loonies, who beat sweetlax and then went on to be crushed by Crush.

Who would be better? And please put some facts behind your opinion like Terps lost to such and such team by this score at this tournament. Not the typical Rising Sons would destroy them nonsense. If you don't have any facts, consider your opinion like your butt hole, every knows you have one but no one wants to hear it!
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They were beaten by Crabs and Sweetlax last summer at the crabfest. [/quote]

And in that same tournament the Crabs were beaten by Rising Sons who were beaten by the Terps and Sweetlax was crushed by Looney's who lost to NH Tomahawks who were beaten by the Terps. Sweetlax was a bad loss even though it was 7-6 but every team in that tournament (except for Crush) lost at least one game to a team other than the Crush. To me, that proves there is no clear cut #2 so the Terps definitely belong in the conversation. [/quote]

Crabs were not beat by sons, they were beat by loonies, who beat sweetlax and then went on to be crushed by Crush. [/quote]

Rising Sons beat the Crabs 7-5 in the round robin portion of the tournament. Looneys beat the Crabs in one semifinal and the Crush hammered Sweet Lax in the other semifinal before destroying Looneys 15-0 in the Championship game. Please don't bother just throwing things out there unless you actually have some actual facts to back them up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who would be better? And please put some facts behind your opinion like Terps lost to such and such team by this score at this tournament. Not the typical Rising Sons would destroy them nonsense. If you don't have any facts, consider your opinion like your butt hole, every knows you have one but no one wants to hear it!

They were beaten by Crabs and Sweetlax last summer at the crabfest. [/quote]

And in that same tournament the Crabs were beaten by Rising Sons who were beaten by the Terps and Sweetlax was crushed by Looney's who lost to NH Tomahawks who were beaten by the Terps. Sweetlax was a bad loss even though it was 7-6 but every team in that tournament (except for Crush) lost at least one game to a team other than the Crush. To me, that proves there is no clear cut #2 so the Terps definitely belong in the conversation. [/quote]

Crabs were not beat by sons, they were beat by loonies, who beat sweetlax and then went on to be crushed by Crush. [/quote]

Rising Sons beat the Crabs 7-5 in the round robin portion of the tournament. Looneys beat the Crabs in one semifinal and the Crush hammered Sweet Lax in the other semifinal before destroying Looneys 15-0 in the Championship game. Please don't bother just throwing things out there unless you actually have some actual facts to back them up. [/quote]

OK, so how is Express up for the number 2 in the country when the weren't even in the semis?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who would be better? And please put some facts behind your opinion like Terps lost to such and such team by this score at this tournament. Not the typical Rising Sons would destroy them nonsense. If you don't have any facts, consider your opinion like your butt hole, every knows you have one but no one wants to hear it!

They were beaten by Crabs and Sweetlax last summer at the crabfest.

And in that same tournament the Crabs were beaten by Rising Sons who were beaten by the Terps and Sweetlax was crushed by Looney's who lost to NH Tomahawks who were beaten by the Terps. Sweetlax was a bad loss even though it was 7-6 but every team in that tournament (except for Crush) lost at least one game to a team other than the Crush. To me, that proves there is no clear cut #2 so the Terps definitely belong in the conversation. [/quote]

Crabs were not beat by sons, they were beat by loonies, who beat sweetlax and then went on to be crushed by Crush. [/quote]

Rising Sons beat the Crabs 7-5 in the round robin portion of the tournament. Looneys beat the Crabs in one semifinal and the Crush hammered Sweet Lax in the other semifinal before destroying Looneys 15-0 in the Championship game. Please don't bother just throwing things out there unless you actually have some actual facts to back them up. [/quote]

OK, so how is Express up for the number 2 in the country when the weren't even in the semis? [/quote]

Looneys made the finals but lost earlier in the tournament to NH Tomahawks. Crabs made the semifinals but lost earlier in the tournament to Rising Sons. SweetLax made the semifinals but earlier lost to Looneys who had lost their previous game to NH Tomahawks as stated in the prior sentence. Terps beat Sons 6-3 and destroyed Tomahawks 10-2. They had their bad loss to Sweetlax in the quarterfinal play in game. So they did not make semifinals but none of the teams who did stands out as a clear #2 so yeah, Terps are in the mix. And since they'll be playing Looneys and Rising Sons this weekend, they'll have a chance to make their case on the field as it should be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Madlax tweeted about a win for Madlax 2020 vs LI Express yesterday. Is this true? If so, what happened to LI Express? Madlax 2020 lost 16-3 to the Baltimore Breakers earlier in the day and are likely to finish in the bottom half of the NPYLL this Spring.

Mid-Atlantic Madness is this weekend with Express, Legacy and fl$ playing Bucks, Looneys and Rising Sons so it will be very easy to tell if Express is still #2 on the Island and likely in the country based on how this weekend goes. So just relax and take a deep breath and come back off the ledge.

I hope the Bucks 2020 team improved. They were a B team last year and I'm surprised to see them playing with these teams.

It appears Crabs were originally scheduled but had to back out for whatever reason so Bucks are filling in. Agree they were not up to the level of these teams last year but kudos to them for agreeing to fill in and hopefully they will make a decent showing.

And to top it all off, Sons beat Looney's this Spring already. This is a great class with anything happening on a given day as evidence of the previous reports. There at least 12 2020 teams that can compete at the highest level. You don't find that at other classes.

It will change again next year when kids in Maryland jump clubs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will change again next year when kids in Maryland jump clubs

Also, teams like Madlax, FCA, 3D, Sweet Lax will recruit nationally. This will make it much more difficult for the true regionals to complete. LIke it or not, it's what's coming. Whatever it takes to win!

Big day at the Hill. All this chatter about who is number 2. Does it really matter. When teams fly in kids to play in a play day round robin. 7th graders. Coaches have lost sight.

How are the LI teams doing? Hope to hear they each had a strong showing! Go LI!

Legacy beat Looneys, Bucks Select and Rising Sons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy beat Looneys, Bucks Select and Rising Sons.

Two 5-4 games. Teams must have very even.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy beat Looneys, Bucks Select and Rising Sons.

Two 5-4 games. Teams must have very even.

Nice wins for Legacy, what were the Express scores? Which teams had the top Fogo, goalie, attack in the tourney ?

Express Beat Sons 9-7, Express beat Loonies 7-3

Great day for Strong Island. Played some very tough teams. Gotta give the Rising Sons some credit, they are a tough bunch and probably should have beaten Legacy. They controlled 70% of the game. They just can't win a face off. They pushed us to our limit and played us two a 9-7 game. JB won all but 3 face offs for Express. Great day of lax made for an easier ride home.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising sons, express, then looneys In order on how they finish.

Lol. Remove foot from mouth.

Great job Express and Legacy!

Are you saying Express won all but three face offs in all three games played or they won all but three face offs against just the Rising Sons team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day for Strong Island. Played some very tough teams. Gotta give the Rising Sons some credit, they are a tough bunch and probably should have beaten Legacy. They controlled 70% of the game. They just can't win a face off. They pushed us to our limit and played us two a 9-7 game. JB won all but 3 face offs for Express. Great day of lax made for an easier ride home.

How did fl$ 2020 do?

fl$ for playing their first games of the season went 1 and 3. Lost to rising sons 10 to 5 beat bucks select and lost to Looneys 8 to 2. Tough start to season against top notch competiton.

Express beat looneys 11-3. I guess crabs will have open arms for some of their players next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great day for Strong Island. Played some very tough teams. Gotta give the Rising Sons some credit, they are a tough bunch and probably should have beaten Legacy. They controlled 70% of the game. They just can't win a face off. They pushed us to our limit and played us two a 9-7 game. JB won all but 3 face offs for Express. Great day of lax made for an easier ride home.

Rising Sons should have won, they had older kids. Confirmed by kids on the Team. Let's hear it parents, "we dont have any older kids on our Team". That's BS! Some kids even had 2019 on their shorts. Are you trying to keep up with the Crabs? Guess you'll have to bring up more kids next time to be Legacy. So now let's hear your excuses.....

Congrats to Legacy. Looks like they are right in the mix with some of the best 2020 programs in the country.

Express 7_ looneys 3. Fyi.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 7_ looneys 3. Fyi.

Bunch of the scores cited above are wrong. Express looked good, so did Legacy, they're a legit A-level team, right there with all the other strong club teams. Not sure why Sons' coach feels need to bring 2019 kids onto his team, goalie was definitely 2019 team goalie and one of their other 2020 goalies was already there. Bunch of other "new" kids on that team that were huge. Sons coach: play kids Born after 9/1/02 and stop the cheating.

Saw a lot of the teams play. Express looked the most consistent. Others were up and down

Btw who cares who is number 2. Just go out and try to be number 1. Legacy parent told me that there team has only been together since October of last year. That is pretty impressive to me no matter what the scores were. They have a bunch of tough hard playing kids that know the game. Good luck legacy...you guys will be a challenge to whoever you play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 7_ looneys 3. Fyi.

Bunch of the scores cited above are wrong. Express looked good, so did Legacy, they're a legit A-level team, right there with all the other strong club teams. Not sure why Sons' coach feels need to bring 2019 kids onto his team, goalie was definitely 2019 team goalie and one of their other 2020 goalies was already there. Bunch of other "new" kids on that team that were huge. Sons coach: play kids Born after 9/1/02 and stop the cheating.

2020 is legitimately 9/1/2001 and after if you had to try and put an age to the class year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Btw who cares who is number 2. Just go out and try to be number 1. Legacy parent told me that there team has only been together since October of last year. That is pretty impressive to me no matter what the scores were. They have a bunch of tough hard playing kids that know the game. Good luck legacy...you guys will be a challenge to whoever you play.

Did the parent also tell you about the holdbacks on Legacy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 7_ looneys 3. Fyi.

Bunch of the scores cited above are wrong. Express looked good, so did Legacy, they're a legit A-level team, right there with all the other strong club teams. Not sure why Sons' coach feels need to bring 2019 kids onto his team, goalie was definitely 2019 team goalie and one of their other 2020 goalies was already there. Bunch of other "new" kids on that team that were huge. Sons coach: play kids Born aifter 9/1/02 and stop the cheating.

2020 is legitimately 9/1/2001 and after if you had to try and put an age to the class year.

Well you can't really accuse Sons for cheating, as other teams such as Legacy have hold backs. Fact, as they probably all do. So stop trying to make excuses and play lacrosse!

Two kids were wearing 2019 shorts because they went to florida with the 2019's. The coach who took the 2019's down took his son to play with them. There are no hold backs on that team, none. The goalie was the same goalie that played last summer. There are a few taller kids but all of age/grade. Quit crying crypes, you won every face off you don't here us parents crying that its not fair that we give up 12-15 extra possessions a game and still compete. Be happy with don't have your face off guys you would never beat us.

11-5

U guys would be average at best without deleted on express he is your whole team by winning those face offs and getting possesion other kids on team don't impress me. You better hope he stays or doesn't get hurt or you can turn out the lights the party will be over your other face off kids are terrible

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U guys would be average at best without deleted on express he is your whole team by winning those face offs and getting possesion other kids on team don't impress me. You better hope he stays or doesn't get hurt or you can turn out the lights the party will be over your other face off kids are terrible

Funny thing is that face off performance for Legacy struggled big time against Looneys, so it's all relative. Looks like Son's need to recruit a f/o stud and they will be tough to beat!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 7_ looneys 3. Fyi.

Bunch of the scores cited above are wrong. Express looked good, so did Legacy, they're a legit A-level team, right there with all the other strong club teams. Not sure why Sons' coach feels need to bring 2019 kids onto his team, goalie was definitely 2019 team goalie and one of their other 2020 goalies was already there. Bunch of other "new" kids on that team that were huge. Sons coach: play kids Born after 9/1/02 and stop the cheating.

Don't you mean play kids born after 9/1/01?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U guys would be average at best without deleted on express he is your whole team by winning those face offs and getting possesion other kids on team don't impress me. You better hope he stays or doesn't get hurt or you can turn out the lights the party will be over your other face off kids are terrible

All relative. Even that kid struggles to go 50/50 with the better f/o kids. Seen express smoked at x more than once! Even so, congratulations to him because you really are only as good as your last performance!

Sounds like a little jealousy to me...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 7_ looneys 3. Fyi.

Bunch of the scores cited above are wrong. Express looked good, so did Legacy, they're a legit A-level team, right there with all the other strong club teams. Not sure why Sons' coach feels need to bring 2019 kids onto his team, goalie was definitely 2019 team goalie and one of their other 2020 goalies was already there. Bunch of other "new" kids on that team that were huge. Sons coach: play kids Born aifter 9/1/02 and stop the cheating.

2020 is legitimately 9/1/2001 and after if you had to try and put an age to the class year.

Well you can't really accuse Sons for cheating, as other teams such as Legacy have hold backs. Fact, as they probably all do. So stop trying to make excuses and play lacrosse!

Nobodys making excuses. Rising Sons lost to both Express and Legacy. Looks like you may need to bring a few more boys down and hopefully get the win you are looking for.

you guys are talking about one of the nicest hard working kids around, keep it positive please. The best F/O guys in the country don't win them all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you guys are talking about one of the nicest hard working kids around, keep it positive please. The best F/O guys in the country don't win them all.

Agreed, he is one of the elite, and and on any given day one of about 5 2020 boys will have a battle, and no clear "best"! Point is there is group that can hang with each other. Wish them all great things moving forward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express 7_ looneys 3. Fyi.

Bunch of the scores cited above are wrong. Express looked good, so did Legacy, they're a legit A-level team, right there with all the other strong club teams. Not sure why Sons' coach feels need to bring 2019 kids onto his team, goalie was definitely 2019 team goalie and one of their other 2020 goalies was already there. Bunch of other "new" kids on that team that were huge. Sons coach: play kids Born aifter 9/1/02 and stop the cheating.

2020 is legitimately 9/1/2001 and after if you had to try and put an age to the class year.

Well you can't really accuse Sons for cheating, as other teams such as Legacy have hold backs. Fact, as they probably all do. So stop trying to make excuses and play lacrosse!

Nobodys making excuses. Rising Sons lost to both Express and Legacy. Looks like you may need to bring a few more boys down and hopefully get the win you are looking for.

You are mistaken-not all teams have hold backs. It is just another way the teams that do have hold backs try to justify what they are doing.

Sons do not have hold backs. Period. If they did they would say it, they may someday just not now. And when they do they will not hide it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Btw who cares who is number 2. Just go out and try to be number 1. Legacy parent told me that there team has only been together since October of last year. That is pretty impressive to me no matter what the scores were. They have a bunch of tough hard playing kids that know the game. Good luck legacy...you guys will be a challenge to whoever you play.

Did the parent also tell you about the holdbacks on Legacy?

how many hold backs and are we talking legit age after 9/1/01 or not available for u13. if available for u13 then whats your gripe. if not available for u13, legacy why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Btw who cares who is number 2. Just go out and try to be number 1. Legacy parent told me that there team has only been together since October of last year. That is pretty impressive to me no matter what the scores were. They have a bunch of tough hard playing kids that know the game. Good luck legacy...you guys will be a challenge to whoever you play.

Did the parent also tell you about the holdbacks on Legacy?

Or the fact Legacy is actually 91 titanium.? Maybe he meant under Legacy lolollool
Legacy Castoffs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons do not have hold backs. Period. If they did they would say it, they may someday just not now. And when they do they will not hide it.

Sorry mommy, you do and you were caught. Sons are cheaters!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons do not have hold backs. Period. If they did they would say it, they may someday just not now. And when they do they will not hide it.

so all those kids are born after 9/1/01? if so, that's great and those kids have real potential to get even bigger. if not, just say it, it's just an excuse, not going to change the team you put out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U guys would be average at best without deleted on express he is your whole team by winning those face offs and getting possesion other kids on team don't impress me. You better hope he stays or doesn't get hurt or you can turn out the lights the party will be over your other face off kids are terrible

All relative. Even that kid struggles to go 50/50 with the better f/o kids. Seen express smoked at x more than once! Even so, congratulations to him because you really are only as good as your last performance!

Rest of the kids aren't average at best. This team has been one of the best in the age group for years. Demonstrated a great team effort this weekend as they had multiple kids scoring in each game and playing time was largely even for everyone that attended. Does the team have a strong face off guy, absolutely, but the Looney's FOGO (Express face off guy isn't a FOGO), Legacy had a great face-off kid, etc. Sons scored some late goals to make the score look closer than the game actually was with Express. Both Long Island teams (Express and Legacy) were the best of the day by a good margin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U guys would be average at best without deleted on express he is your whole team by winning those face offs and getting possesion other kids on team don't impress me. You better hope he stays or doesn't get hurt or you can turn out the lights the party will be over your other face off kids are terrible

All relative. Even that kid struggles to go 50/50 with the better f/o kids. Seen express smoked at x more than once! Even so, congratulations to him because you really are only as good as your last performance!

Rest of the kids aren't average at best. This team has been one of the best in the age group for years. Demonstrated a great team effort this weekend as they had multiple kids scoring in each game and playing time was largely even for everyone that attended. Does the team have a strong face off guy, absolutely, but the Looney's FOGO (Express face off guy isn't a FOGO), Legacy had a great face-off kid, etc. Sons scored some late goals to make the score look closer than the game actually was with Express. Both Long Island teams (Express and Legacy) were the best of the day by a good margin.

So late goals are worth less than early goals? The score is the score and they all count. I watched the game....it was no thumping by Express. It was actually pretty even.

Annapolis Hawks 2020 had a win against Legacy last weekend at the Hopkins Tournament. More Maryland teams playing strong against Long Island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

U guys would be average at best without deleted on express he is your whole team by winning those face offs and getting possesion other kids on team don't impress me. You better hope he stays or doesn't get hurt or you can turn out the lights the party will be over your other face off kids are terrible

All relative. Even that kid struggles to go 50/50 with the better f/o kids. Seen express smoked at x more than once! Even so, congratulations to him because you really are only as good as your last performance!

Rest of the kids aren't average at best. This team has been one of the best in the age group for years. Demonstrated a great team effort this weekend as they had multiple kids scoring in each game and playing time was largely even for everyone that attended. Does the team have a strong face off guy, absolutely, but the Looney's FOGO (Express face off guy isn't a FOGO), Legacy had a great face-off kid, etc. Sons scored some late goals to make the score look closer than the game actually was with Express. Both Long Island teams (Express and Legacy) were the best of the day by a good margin.

So late goals are worth less than early goals? The score is the score and they all count. I watched the game....it was no thumping by Express. It was actually pretty even.

Nobody called it a thumping, and no, late goals don't count less than early goals, it was a good game, but to say that it was all due to faceoff edge is incorrect. It was a great day of competitive lacrosse. The two long island teams each won all three of their games, against what are supposed to be the best teams in the Philly and Baltimore areas. All these teams should do more events like this so the kids get great competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Annapolis Hawks 2020 had a win against Legacy last weekend at the Hopkins Tournament. More Maryland teams playing strong against Long Island.

They should be, most of your roster is comprised of older kids...

All true 7th graders with no hold backs.

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All true 7th graders with no hold backs.

Not sure what that means anymore. Give me birthdate compliance - any born pre-9/1/01? If not, nice job.

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Annapolis Hawks 2020 had a win against Legacy last weekend at the Hopkins Tournament. More Maryland teams playing strong against Long Island.

They should be, most of your roster is comprised of older kids...

Legacy has hold backs as well. As do all the teams (it counts if you started kindergarten late). Face it, all the teams have some older than normal kids. Stop complaining and play lax!

The US Lacrosse 9/1 cutoff date isn't realistic for large parts of the US. Where I live, as a practical matter all of the private schools will insist that boys with summer birthdays start school later so the true school cutoff is probably May. One tournament uses 8/1. The Warrior Worlds Series of Lacrosse is using 5/1. People will always argue any date you choose, but 9/1 isn't representative of where we are as a society. I has an October birthday and went to college when I was 17. Times change and if I had a son with an October birthday I would have him start school later than I did.

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U guys would be average at best without deleted on express he is your whole team by winning those face offs and getting possesion other kids on team don't impress me. You better hope he stays or doesn't get hurt or you can turn out the lights the party will be over your other face off kids are terrible

All relative. Even that kid struggles to go 50/50 with the better f/o kids. Seen express smoked at x more than once! Even so, congratulations to him because you really are only as good as your last performance!

Rest of the kids aren't average at best. This team has been one of the best in the age group for years. Demonstrated a great team effort this weekend as they had multiple kids scoring in each game and playing time was largely even for everyone that attended. Does the team have a strong face off guy, absolutely, but the Looney's FOGO (Express face off guy isn't a FOGO), Legacy had a great face-off kid, etc. Sons scored some late goals to make the score look closer than the game actually was with Express. Both Long Island teams (Express and Legacy) were the best of the day by a good margin.

So late goals are worth less than early goals? The score is the score and they all count. I watched the game....it was no thumping by Express. It was actually pretty even.

Nobody called it a thumping, and no, late goals don't count less than early goals, it was a good game, but to say that it was all due to faceoff edge is incorrect. It was a great day of competitive lacrosse. The two long island teams each won all three of their games, against what are supposed to be the best teams in the Philly and Baltimore areas. All these teams should do more events like this so the kids get great competition.

Yeah but you implied that Express rolled big and there were a few garbage goals at the end that made it look closer than it was. That is not true. It was a close game all the way. I am not a Sons parent, but watched the game and they hung with Express all the way. Whether Sons looked a whole lot older than 13 is another issue...but the game was close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Annapolis Hawks 2020 had a win against Legacy last weekend at the Hopkins Tournament. More Maryland teams playing strong against Long Island.

What were the Legacy scores from the prior weekend?

Legacy over Rock by at least 10
Hawks over Turnpike by at least 12
Hawks over Legacy 4-3 or 5-4 (one goal game)

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Legacy over Rock by at least 10
Hawks over Turnpike by at least 12
Hawks over Legacy 4-3 or 5-4 (one goal game)

I thought Legacy played the Crabs too?

Don't toot your horn legacy was without 4 or 5 of there better players that could not make it

Legacy lost to Hawks lolollool

Let me guess, they were without their face-off guy and look what happened...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me guess, they were without their face-off guy and look what happened...

Kid is very good, he's an impact player and not a FOGO. Having a great face off guys is critical to a team's success

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me guess, they were without their face-off guy and look what happened...

Kid is very good, he's an impact player and not a FOGO. Having a great face off guys is critical to a team's success

Ok dad!

The kid is a decent all around player, but the BEST F/o guy. Difference maker for that team is a dramatic understatement...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The US Lacrosse 9/1 cutoff date isn't realistic for large parts of the US. Where I live, as a practical matter all of the private schools will insist that boys with summer birthdays start school later so the true school cutoff is probably May. One tournament uses 8/1. The Warrior Worlds Series of Lacrosse is using 5/1. People will always argue any date you choose, but 9/1 isn't representative of where we are as a society. I has an October birthday and went to college when I was 17. Times change and if I had a son with an October birthday I would have him start school later than I did.

So let's not have cut offs at all and let your son play down and beat on younger kids. Problem solved!

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The kid is a decent all around player, but the BEST F/o guy. Difference maker for that team is a dramatic understatement...

What team? Because every f/o kid there can't get by the best. Can only hope to go 50/50 if lucky. I've seen every one of those kids struggle at times. Just because you had a good day against a team without an elite fogo does not make you one. Be happy you did well in SOME games, and try being a little humble. sounds to me like a daddy is doing a lot of bragging!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The US Lacrosse 9/1 cutoff date isn't realistic for large parts of the US. Where I live, as a practical matter all of the private schools will insist that boys with summer birthdays start school later so the true school cutoff is probably May. One tournament uses 8/1. The Warrior Worlds Series of Lacrosse is using 5/1. People will always argue any date you choose, but 9/1 isn't representative of where we are as a society. I has an October birthday and went to college when I was 17. Times change and if I had a son with an October birthday I would have him start school later than I did.

Hockey does not seem to have an issue. They set the cut off date at 12/31. You play according to the cut off date- no waivers, no holdbacks nothing. It is the way it is and it works for youth hockey.

Maybe an easy fix would to set a birthdate year of 7/1 so it encompasses the late starts. And hold that date, do checks at tournaments and these parents who want to hold back or reclass can send their kids to showcase events at their reclassed ages.

Why don't we all have our kids start two years behind schedule so we can look really smart and really athletic. That would solve the problem...insert sarcasm.

There are legitimate reasons to start a child with a summer birthday a year later. The problem with the current cutoff date is it is close to a school year cutoff date but not inclusive enough that it is enforceable. The reality is that most kids want to play with their friends and most of their friends are in their grade. Making teams grade based with a maximum age makes sense. Using a 12/31 cutoff and not making any effort to make it grade based makes sense. Using at 9/1 date as a proxy for grade based leads to a system where everyone decides to go grade based instead and then you have no maximum age and extreme hold backs have way too much advantage. We have ended up with the worst of both options.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There are legitimate reasons to start a child with a summer birthday a year later. The problem with the current cutoff date is it is close to a school year cutoff date but not inclusive enough that it is enforceable. The reality is that most kids want to play with their friends and most of their friends are in their grade. Making teams grade based with a maximum age makes sense. Using a 12/31 cutoff and not making any effort to make it grade based makes sense. Using at 9/1 date as a proxy for grade based leads to a system where everyone decides to go grade based instead and then you have no maximum age and extreme hold backs have way too much advantage. We have ended up with the worst of both options.

While there are legitimate "hold back" reasons, it is too prevalent and not always for the right reasons. Educational evidence shows holding back a child with learning delays only masks their need for intervention services. If they had started school "on time" they would receive the services they need. Sometimes hospitalizations or sicknesses where children miss months of school happens; certainly this is a legitimate reason. But all too often, parents hold their child back to get an edge. Let's stop catering to this group. Either of your options would work. However, one would have to be chosen and implemented. Ultimately, it would only apply in youth sports because once you are in high school it is a melting pot.

9/1 should be the date. period. same as school. if you chose to hold you kid back for perceived/real/necessary reasons/advantages, no problem, but if he is going to compete in youth sports, especially contact sports, he should compete with and against kids his own age. Tough to have it both ways--advantages of being older but forever competing with and against kids not necessarily his friends in school because he is in a different grade--well, something to consider with your next child then... it does all work itself out once they are in college and have all matured and grown but not at the youth level--there is a DISTINCT advantage in prepubescent and pubescent years for kids that are older--even 9 months--forget about 18 months. Its just not right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

9/1 should be the date. period. same as school. if you chose to hold you kid back for perceived/real/necessary reasons/advantages, no problem, but if he is going to compete in youth sports, especially contact sports, he should compete with and against kids his own age. Tough to have it both ways--advantages of being older but forever competing with and against kids not necessarily his friends in school because he is in a different grade--well, something to consider with your next child then... it does all work itself out once they are in college and have all matured and grown but not at the youth level--there is a DISTINCT advantage in prepubescent and pubescent years for kids that are older--even 9 months--forget about 18 months. Its just not right.

Our school cutoff is in December. Other than that, I completely agree with you. If you are going to make the choice to hold your child back, don't do it at my child's expense physically...live with your choice - good and bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

9/1 should be the date. period. same as school. if you chose to hold you kid back for perceived/real/necessary reasons/advantages, no problem, but if he is going to compete in youth sports, especially contact sports, he should compete with and against kids his own age. Tough to have it both ways--advantages of being older but forever competing with and against kids not necessarily his friends in school because he is in a different grade--well, something to consider with your next child then... it does all work itself out once they are in college and have all matured and grown but not at the youth level--there is a DISTINCT advantage in prepubescent and pubescent years for kids that are older--even 9 months--forget about 18 months. Its just not right.

Now will someone please do something about this! I for one refused to renew my son's US Lacrosse membership. They sent me a questioneer asking why. I said I was appalled and disappointed that they refuse to address age appropriate competition as my reason. I'm "opting out"!

That's the appropriate move. USL continues to ignore this issue, in spite of the fact that they are very much aware of it. They will not do anything to jeopordize the growth of the sport, and have the convenient defense that it's the travel organizations controlling this. It is very easy to go on USL's website and voice your concern.

I have also corresponded with USL on this very subject, as recently as February. They said they are developing a sanctioning model, in addition to an age verification program. I have not heard anything since, but will be reaching out to them for an update. I'll post their response.

It goes to reinforce lax is not a real sport, just a glorified club sport. This age stuff absolutely doesn't happen in youth hockey, baseball or football. Hey lax, stop being archaic and tighten up your rules. get real. (and I am a lax guy, so save it).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's the appropriate move. USL continues to ignore this issue, in spite of the fact that they are very much aware of it. They will not do anything to jeopordize the growth of the sport, and have the convenient defense that it's the travel organizations controlling this. It is very easy to go on USL's website and voice your concern.

guys, some of the people who have a say (or influence) in change (in MD); have kids who have been holdbacks, aint changing it till their kids are out of HS or committed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have also corresponded with USL on this very subject, as recently as February. They said they are developing a sanctioning model, in addition to an age verification program. I have not heard anything since, but will be reaching out to them for an update. I'll post their response.

Thanks for pursuing this! Will look forward to your post. I'll do the same

This will never happen. They can't force privately run tournaments so comply. It is America and the people who run these tourneys can structure the tourney however they want.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will never happen. They can't force privately run tournaments so comply. It is America and the people who run these tourneys can structure the tourney however they want.

The only way this changes is if insurance companies refuse to underwrite policies for teams and tournaments that do not have a good age based rule in place. If that happens, change will occur because insurance is needed to get the field space. Make it about the money and operation of teams and tournaments, then maybe some change will occur. worry about safety of players and nobody with any authority will change.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will never happen. They can't force privately run tournaments so comply. It is America and the people who run these tourneys can structure the tourney however they want.

The only way this changes is if insurance companies refuse to underwrite policies for teams and tournaments that do not have a good age based rule in place. If that happens, change will occur because insurance is needed to get the field space. Make it about the money and operation of teams and tournaments, then maybe some change will occur. worry about safety of players and nobody with any authority will change.

From the 2021 string, but worth noting here too since it involves 7th graders, and a club that denies it has older kids playing on each team...

The Advisory Board of the Mid-Atlantic Spring League recently determined that the Rising Sons 6th grade team had been playing this entire spring with two 7th graders on their roster. The rules of Mid-Atlantic Spring League strictly prohibit players from competing in divisions below their grade level The rule on this point was made clear to all clubs multiple times prior to the beginning of league play this Spring. First, the rule was set forth in the initial email welcoming teams into the league. Second, League Directors reviewed the rule on a conference call with all coaches, refs, and club directors participating in the Spring League. And, finally, the rule was reiterated in an email from the League Director in the week before the league initiated on March 15th.

Accordingly, we have determined that the conduct of the Rising Sons 6th grade team constitutes a flagrant violation of clearly communicated league rules. When directly asked about the situation, the Rising Sons club director confirmed the violation.

In response the league will take the following measures:

1. The Mid-Atlantic Spring League does not crown champions, and is more about player development than winning, but as a matter of principle the Rising Sons 6th grade team will forfeit all wins in the league in which ineligible players participated. Those games will be scored as 1-0 defeats per Federation rules.

2. The two 7th graders in question will not be allowed to play in the 6th grade division for the remainder of the league

3. The Rising Sons 2021 coach is barred from coaching in the league for the remainder of the season.

The Mid-Atlantic Spring League was founded to give like-minded programs that focus on year-round player development an opportunity to play fair and competitive games against each other. This principle fails if clubs are not willing to follow the agreed-upon rules. The league will adopt a zero-tolerance policy towards intentional violations of the age rules going forward, and reserves the right to permanently ban any future violators.

Let's play the remainder of the season honoring the game, your opponent and the officials.

This shouldn't come as any surprise to any team that has played the Sons. They have done this stuff from the very beginning. Their 2020 team sticks 2019 players on it when convenient. They have a win at all costs mentality, even if that means cheating. Amazing that such a young organization have developed such a toxic reputation in such a short time. It's rewarding to see such a public comeuppance, that confirms what we all knew. The director was a frequent poster to this site in the beginning. Doesn't have much to say now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will never happen. They can't force privately run tournaments so comply. It is America and the people who run these tourneys can structure the tourney however they want.

The only way this changes is if insurance companies refuse to underwrite policies for teams and tournaments that do not have a good age based rule in place. If that happens, change will occur because insurance is needed to get the field space. Make it about the money and operation of teams and tournaments, then maybe some change will occur. worry about safety of players and nobody with any authority will change.

From the 2021 string, but worth noting here too since it involves 7th graders, and a club that denies it has older kids playing on each team...

The Advisory Board of the Mid-Atlantic Spring League recently determined that the Rising Sons 6th grade team had been playing this entire spring with two 7th graders on their roster. The rules of Mid-Atlantic Spring League strictly prohibit players from competing in divisions below their grade level The rule on this point was made clear to all clubs multiple times prior to the beginning of league play this Spring. First, the rule was set forth in the initial email welcoming teams into the league. Second, League Directors reviewed the rule on a conference call with all coaches, refs, and club directors participating in the Spring League. And, finally, the rule was reiterated in an email from the League Director in the week before the league initiated on March 15th.

Accordingly, we have determined that the conduct of the Rising Sons 6th grade team constitutes a flagrant violation of clearly communicated league rules. When directly asked about the situation, the Rising Sons club director confirmed the violation.

In response the league will take the following measures:

1. The Mid-Atlantic Spring League does not crown champions, and is more about player development than winning, but as a matter of principle the Rising Sons 6th grade team will forfeit all wins in the league in which ineligible players participated. Those games will be scored as 1-0 defeats per Federation rules.

2. The two 7th graders in question will not be allowed to play in the 6th grade division for the remainder of the league

3. The Rising Sons 2021 coach is barred from coaching in the league for the remainder of the season.

The Mid-Atlantic Spring League was founded to give like-minded programs that focus on year-round player development an opportunity to play fair and competitive games against each other. This principle fails if clubs are not willing to follow the agreed-upon rules. The league will adopt a zero-tolerance policy towards intentional violations of the age rules going forward, and reserves the right to permanently ban any future violators.

Let's play the remainder of the season honoring the game, your opponent and the officials.

Bravo Bravo!!!!! Would hope this type of stuff gets brought to peoples attention and the higher ups start reading the writing on the wall. Now lets say one of these players injured another younger player in a game. Can we say major lawsuit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This will never happen. They can't force privately run tournaments so comply. It is America and the people who run these tourneys can structure the tourney however they want.

The only way this changes is if insurance companies refuse to underwrite policies for teams and tournaments that do not have a good age based rule in place. If that happens, change will occur because insurance is needed to get the field space. Make it about the money and operation of teams and tournaments, then maybe some change will occur. worry about safety of players and nobody with any authority will change.

From the 2021 string, but worth noting here too since it involves 7th graders, and a club that denies it has older kids playing on each team...

The Advisory Board of the Mid-Atlantic Spring League recently determined that the Rising Sons 6th grade team had been playing this entire spring with two 7th graders on their roster. The rules of Mid-Atlantic Spring League strictly prohibit players from competing in divisions below their grade level The rule on this point was made clear to all clubs multiple times prior to the beginning of league play this Spring. First, the rule was set forth in the initial email welcoming teams into the league. Second, League Directors reviewed the rule on a conference call with all coaches, refs, and club directors participating in the Spring League. And, finally, the rule was reiterated in an email from the League Director in the week before the league initiated on March 15th.

Accordingly, we have determined that the conduct of the Rising Sons 6th grade team constitutes a flagrant violation of clearly communicated league rules. When directly asked about the situation, the Rising Sons club director confirmed the violation.

In response the league will take the following measures:

1. The Mid-Atlantic Spring League does not crown champions, and is more about player development than winning, but as a matter of principle the Rising Sons 6th grade team will forfeit all wins in the league in which ineligible players participated. Those games will be scored as 1-0 defeats per Federation rules.

2. The two 7th graders in question will not be allowed to play in the 6th grade division for the remainder of the league

3. The Rising Sons 2021 coach is barred from coaching in the league for the remainder of the season.

The Mid-Atlantic Spring League was founded to give like-minded programs that focus on year-round player development an opportunity to play fair and competitive games against each other. This principle fails if clubs are not willing to follow the agreed-upon rules. The league will adopt a zero-tolerance policy towards intentional violations of the age rules going forward, and reserves the right to permanently ban any future violators.

Let's play the remainder of the season honoring the game, your opponent and the officials.

It's all about winning for the director of Rising Sons and posting championship pictures on his Instagram account. Parents on their sideline confirm older kids yet the director denies it. Parents claim the were short handed. Same excuse last year yet they had 10 kids on the sideline. Just a thought, you may want to buy some extra 20020 shorts for the 2019 kids you bring to games. Having the boys wear their 2019 shorts is a dead giveaway.

Hats off to the league for calling them out. Are the wins in a sixth grade league really that important? Change the name of the team to "Cheating Parents". Also after the season they should teach all the kids how to cheat on the SATs and their taxes.

Excellent response from the Mid-Atlantic Spring League - if you do play in the league you should be glad the directors have the stones to respond like this and you should thank them.

And you have to remember Pa is an earlier cut off date so those 7 graders can be a lot older.
I play the rising sons team once I said to the coach these kids can not be the same age look at the physical maturity
This was 2020 team. a couple of years back.
I also played a Philadelphia team in a championship game that I lost to and the parents from the winning team told me the coach cheated took players from his older team

He has always done this and he is buddy's with looneys 2020. Hey but it doesn't really matter cause 91 crushes both of them.

Thank you Viper for hosting the three way day of scrimmage with express wolverines and igloo.

yes it was great day of lacrosse for our boys, 3 very good teams having a fun day. Too bad the 4th team backed out but nice format with the 30 minute runs.

3 very good teams!!! Please there is a reason why only those teams were invited. When the tournaments start we will all see how these 3 really good teams are. They are going to get blown out by crush Terps and legacy. Double digit losses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3 very good teams!!! Please there is a reason why only those teams were invited. When the tournaments start we will all see how these 3 really good teams are. They are going to get blown out by crush Terps and legacy. Double digit losses.

I'm not sure what your point is as I doubt you really have one except perhaps for the point on top of your head. Crush, Terps and Legacy are the top 3 teams in this age. I don't think anyone has argued about that for a couple of years now. If those teams want to scrimmage each other, I'm sure they could set it up quite easily. But they don't. So no one else in this age should be allowed to play since they aren't as good as the top 3?!? You are an idiot and should just stay in your mother's basement where you belong.

I agree - after the top 3 it seems like there are a 1/2 dozen teams that are all equally competitive.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3 very good teams!!! Please there is a reason why only those teams were invited. When the tournaments start we will all see how these 3 really good teams are. They are going to get blown out by crush Terps and legacy. Double digit losses.

He didn't say they were the best.....he said "very good" which they are. In your misguided world apparently Crush, Legacy and Terps are the only quality teams on LI. I don't think anyone would argue they aren't the top three. However, if we search really, really hard maybe, just maybe, we can find a few kids who aren't on those teams who have somehow learned to throw and catch.

Were birth certificates checked before the scrimmage? Would love to hear some parents cry today about "age appropriate" players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3 very good teams!!! Please there is a reason why only those teams were invited. When the tournaments start we will all see how these 3 really good teams are. They are going to get blown out by crush Terps and legacy. Double digit losses.

He didn't say they were the best.....he said "very good" which they are. In your misguided world apparently Crush, Legacy and Terps are the only quality teams on LI. I don't think anyone would argue they aren't the top three. However, if we search really, really hard maybe, just maybe, we can find a few kids who aren't on those teams who have somehow learned to throw and catch.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree - after the top 3 it seems like there are a 1/2 dozen teams that are all equally competitive.

After the top one there is a precipitous drop to numbers 2 and 3. Legacy would lose by double digits to Crush. The Legacy dad likes to put them in a group with Crush which is humorous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree - after the top 3 it seems like there are a 1/2 dozen teams that are all equally competitive.

After the top one there is a precipitous drop to numbers 2 and 3. Legacy would lose by double digits to Crush. The Legacy dad likes to put them in a group with Crush which is humorous.

Not as funny as you.....

Where does BBL stand/stack up vs. other jersey programs? save the bashing if that is your first inclination, unproductive.

Sons got caught with holdbacks....what do you have to say now?

The Coach at Malvern Prep and the Coach at Spring Ford were both aware of the cheating and were involved....not good examples

Does anyone know what teams are going to the World Series of Youth Lacrosse in Denver this July?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know what teams are going to the World Series of Youth Lacrosse in Denver this July?

Crush will be there, beyond that does not really matter.

Any non Crush parents care to respond?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any non Crush parents care to respond?

Heard nobody else from LI was invited.

Money grab again. Joke is on the parents

Teams I know of that are attending are Crush, crabs! west coast starz, Denver elite, laxachusetts, leading edge, Sons, Edge from Canada,. TZ tried but tournament did not allow them

Our Legacy boys were told by TZ we were attending then we heard it was invite and Legacy did not receive a bid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any non Crush parents care to respond?

I wrote the Crush comment and I am not a Crush parent, just giving the team their props. Double edged sword there - extremely talented, disciplined team but the most crass and obnoxious parents that I have ever seen.

Realistically, everyone else playing for second, so what's the point given that it's just a money grab anyway (as was pointed out by another poster)

How did Igloo '20 look/perform this past weekend? what teams did they play. Curious if this program blossoms beyond its marquee '21 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Igloo '20 look/perform this past weekend? what teams did they play. Curious if this program blossoms beyond its marquee '21 team.

They won both games vs Vipers & Express Wolverines

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Igloo '20 look/perform this past weekend? what teams did they play. Curious if this program blossoms beyond its marquee '21 team.

They won both games vs Vipers & Express Wolverines

Igloo must be very solid as I know Express Wolverines have many good players on the team. Was the score close or did Igloo pull away?

igloo beat Viper 10-7
not sure of exact express score

Originally Posted by Anonymous

igloo beat Viper 10-7
not sure of exact express score

Igloo beat Express 10-6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

igloo beat Viper 10-7
not sure of exact express score

Igloo beat Express 10-6

Viper beat Express 8-6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

igloo beat Viper 10-7
not sure of exact express score

Igloo beat Express 10-6

Viper beat Express 8-6

Did Express win any games? I didn't realize Viper was a solid team. Good for them. Nice to hear smaller clubs doing well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

igloo beat Viper 10-7
not sure of exact express score

Igloo beat Express 10-6

Viper beat Express 8-6

Did Express win any games? I didn't realize Viper was a solid team. Good for them. Nice to hear smaller clubs doing well.

these are combined scores from both games. Exprezs beat viper 5-4 and lost 4-1

games were 30 minutes, one team stayed on the field for 2 30 minute games and played the other 2 then rotated. For what it was worth the 3 teams all looked like they were testing things so to speak, moving kids around different lines etc. as it should be in a scrimmage. Good day of lacrosse though, all teams played good clean ball and the refs did a nice job of keeping the games moving.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

games were 30 minutes, one team stayed on the field for 2 30 minute games and played the other 2 then rotated. For what it was worth the 3 teams all looked like they were testing things so to speak, moving kids around different lines etc. as it should be in a scrimmage. Good day of lacrosse though, all teams played good clean ball and the refs did a nice job of keeping the games moving.

Do any other teams have plans for a similar setup for scrimmages coming up?

Are they any decent lacrosse summer camps people would recommend, local(meaning long island) or away ? please list what you think would be top five for each. Thank you

Sorry about the spelling above. I did not have my glasses on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Money grab again. Joke is on the parents

Look Everything about this sport has turned into being all about the money. Not to may people hold free clinics or tournaments just to teach the kids and make them better. Do you think most of these tournaments or clubs really care about the kids. One or two in each age group do but most don't. Most or all are making a living off this sport so they don't have to get real jobs. But I bet if your son or daughters team was invited to play then it would have been the real deal.

I agree about the money grab (Team 91 charging $450) but is there really something good for the children for skills ??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Money grab again. Joke is on the parents

Mostly everything about this sport is a money grab, which is why it has taken so long for lacrosse to move from a fringe club/prep school sport into the mainstream. Also one of the reasons why you have not seen the rapid expansion of Division 1 college programs as was predicted years ago. Lacrosse from youth club, to the highest levels is in no way revenue producing, point being with this sport in one way or the other its always about the money.

I wonder why they are charging $450? The tournament cost $275 per player and that includes, lots of gear, a nice dinner, ticket to a MLL game plus the games. I actually think it is VERY fairly priced. My son's team is going and we are turning it into a mini family vacation and totally looking forward to every second of it!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder why they are charging $450? The tournament cost $275 per player and that includes, lots of gear, a nice dinner, ticket to a MLL game plus the games. I actually think it is VERY fairly priced. My son's team is going and we are turning it into a mini family vacation and totally looking forward to every second of it!!

Which tournament is that?

Crabs 2020 will beat Li and legacy

Originally Posted by Youthlaxman

Crabs 2020 will beat Li and legacy

Where?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I wonder why they are charging $450? The tournament cost $275 per player and that includes, lots of gear, a nice dinner, ticket to a MLL game plus the games. I actually think it is VERY fairly priced. My son's team is going and we are turning it into a mini family vacation and totally looking forward to every second of it!!

Which tournament is that?

Denver

Get over it.

Crab 2020 Team. Best in the Country. Great day to be a Crab.

No way crabs beats crush

Crabs 2020 team is best 2018 team around Ha BIG OLE Ryan

The Warrior World Series of Lacrosse is for 2020 teams but also has an age limitation of 5/1/2001 which is 4 months older than US Lacrosse. How many of the Crabs 2020 players won't be able to play because of age?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Warrior World Series of Lacrosse is for 2020 teams but also has an age limitation of 5/1/2001 which is 4 months older than US Lacrosse. How many of the Crabs 2020 players won't be able to play because of age?

Some will borrow their little brothers ID. Whatever it takes to win!

Only one player can't go

Crush will beat them by 10 goals, 6 if they take the free clear.

What r they teams going to Denver

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Warrior World Series of Lacrosse is for 2020 teams but also has an age limitation of 5/1/2001 which is 4 months older than US Lacrosse. How many of the Crabs 2020 players won't be able to play because of age?

Some will borrow their little brothers ID. Whatever it takes to win!

5/1/2001. How was this determined?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Warrior World Series of Lacrosse is for 2020 teams but also has an age limitation of 5/1/2001 which is 4 months older than US Lacrosse. How many of the Crabs 2020 players won't be able to play because of age?

Some will borrow their little brothers ID. Whatever it takes to win!

5/1/2001. How was this determined?

It is their tournament, they can set the rules. I imagine they asked some of the clubs they wanted to attend what the cutoff would need to be. It is not a bad estimate for the private school cutoff for boys in my area.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Warrior World Series of Lacrosse is for 2020 teams but also has an age limitation of 5/1/2001 which is 4 months older than US Lacrosse. How many of the Crabs 2020 players won't be able to play because of age?

Some will borrow their little brothers ID. Whatever it takes to win!

5/1/2001. How was this determined?

They wanted to get as many players who should be in 2019 to play as possible, while still pretending they are 2020 teams

They should just say its u14. Lets be honest most of the really good teams have hold backs. So if you made it real 2020 kids a lot of teams would have to stay home.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Warrior World Series of Lacrosse is for 2020 teams but also has an age limitation of 5/1/2001 which is 4 months older than US Lacrosse. How many of the Crabs 2020 players won't be able to play because of age?

Some will borrow their little brothers ID. Whatever it takes to win!

5/1/2001. How was this determined?

Have to find a way to beat the LI team... Come on folks, we should know this by now...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should just say its u14. Lets be honest most of the really good teams have hold backs. So if you made it real 2020 kids a lot of teams would have to stay home.

Several teams may have 1-3 but few have as many as one particular team which claims to the best in Maryland 2020. Also for another top Maryland team that brings down boys from their 2019 who are holding back to play with their 2020 during tournaments because they will be holding back this year. The rest of us have no respect for those team - it is not the boy's fault - it is the parents and the culture of their clubs. My son's team has zero holdbacks and they are very competitive. We as a parent/coach group have discussed it and prefer it to remain that way and perhaps lose some games than to teach our sons that it is okay to bend the spirit of the rules to gain an advantage. To each their own.

If the World Series of Youth Lacrosse wants to be considered a legitimate tournament they should abide by US Lacrosse rules and age guidelines. Instead they ask the attending teams what age guidelines and rules to use and lose all their credibility. Thus, becoming just another youth lacrosse tournament. WSYL hold youself to a higher standard and set the right example for the kids.

In August/September begins our possible quest regarding travel clubs-tryouts. I have no idea if our son is legit or not. Some say he can play. I think he can but would like to find out. Who/what clubs do you tryout out for or is that also a pure money grab. Do these clubs really look at potential prospects ?

Where do you live?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In August/September begins our possible quest regarding travel clubs-tryouts. I have no idea if our son is legit or not. Some say he can play. I think he can but would like to find out. Who/what clubs do you tryout out for or is that also a pure money grab. Do these clubs really look at potential prospects ?

your son is 2020? do you want to know if he can roll with the very best? If you want to stack him up with those kind of players, go to the 91 tryout. And I would suggest he have a back up plan. Seriously.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will beat them by 10 goals, 6 if they take the free clear.

Since you are bragging about Crush, have you noticed certain current and former Crush players on their MS teams getting badly beaten by other MS teams made up of kids who play on clubs that are supposedly lame and irrelevant?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In August/September begins our possible quest regarding travel clubs-tryouts. I have no idea if our son is legit or not. Some say he can play. I think he can but would like to find out. Who/what clubs do you tryout out for or is that also a pure money grab. Do these clubs really look at potential prospects ?

your son is 2020? do you want to know if he can roll with the very best? If you want to stack him up with those kind of players, go to the 91 tryout. And I would suggest he have a back up plan. Seriously.

And they are all a money grab! So like a College application/entrance fee, choose a reach team and a safety team. The rest is how much $ and time you want to invest (50 to 100 each). Also you will need to have your calendar ready as many are two days and they overlap each other to weed out some tire kickers. Good luck, you will need it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will beat them by 10 goals, 6 if they take the free clear.

Since you are bragging about Crush, have you noticed certain current and former Crush players on their MS teams getting badly beaten by other MS teams made up of kids who play on clubs that are supposedly lame and irrelevant?

middle school lolol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush will beat them by 10 goals, 6 if they take the free clear.

Since you are bragging about Crush, have you noticed certain current and former Crush players on their MS teams getting badly beaten by other MS teams made up of kids who play on clubs that are supposedly lame and irrelevant?

middle school lolol

Everybody starts somewhere..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only one player can't go

Last week it was all of them that could go - next week it will be 2 and by the time Denver rolls around they will have brought up 1/2 dozen players from the "2021" to play.

hows the viper 2020 team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

hows the viper 2020 team?

pretty good. beat wolverines and played igloo close

What tournaments are Sat and Sun this week end. I know Blatant, Viperfest- anything else around?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournaments are Sat and Sun this week end. I know Blatant, Viperfest- anything else around?

Christian Koehler

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What tournaments are Sat and Sun this week end. I know Blatant, Viperfest- anything else around?

Chris Koehler in Suffolk

How does outlaws black look?

B team at best

Anyone seen the true blue 2020 teams? Heard they played a tournament yesterday

Heard Igloo played Terps this weekend and won the game. Does anyone know if this was part of a tournament or a scrimmage?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone seen the true blue 2020 teams? Heard they played a tournament yesterday

They did a play day with fl$ and a NYC team....Good tune up for all involved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Igloo played Terps this weekend and won the game. Does anyone know if this was part of a tournament or a scrimmage?

That would be a surprise.

A lot of talk here about the A teams but who would people rate as the better B teams in this age group?

A bit early to judge. There have been some scrimmages and spring tournaments but we will have a better picture after LI Laxfest. It also depends on what brackets teams play in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of talk here about the A teams but who would people rate as the better B teams in this age group?

You trying to make yourself feel better, make others feel worse or both?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of talk here about the A teams but who would people rate as the better B teams in this age group?

That would depend on how you define a B team. For example, last year Titanium was technically 91's B team but they were arguably the 3rd or 4th best team in this age. If you choose to go with AA as the best teams (Crush, Terps, Legacy) and A as the next tier (Igloo, True Blue, fl$, Wolverines, Team LI, Vipers) then the B teams would be next (Outlaws Black, 91 Orangemen, Legacy Ravage) and then there could even be a C tier (Outlaws Silver, 91 Stampede). And please refrain from the useless comments on how ridiculous it is to rank the teams, blah blah blah...if you are on this message board, you are interested in discussions like this so cut the holier than thou crap.

fl$ won both game 6 to 2.....good start to the spring despite the early rain. Was surprised about the NYC team. They were big and pretty solid.

Last week: Terps> Igloo
fl$> True Blue
fl$> EXPRESS NYC

well stated

Agreed on your view of the landscape...

BTW, what is the tuition for Express this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of talk here about the A teams but who would people rate as the better B teams in this age group?

That would depend on how you define a B team. For example, last year Titanium was technically 91's B team but they were arguably the 3rd or 4th best team in this age. If you choose to go with AA as the best teams (Crush, Terps, Legacy) and A as the next tier (Igloo, True Blue, fl$, Wolverines, Team LI, Vipers) then the B teams would be next (Outlaws Black, 91 Orangemen, Legacy Ravage) and then there could even be a C tier (Outlaws Silver, 91 Stampede). And please refrain from the useless comments on how ridiculous it is to rank the teams, blah blah blah...if you are on this message board, you are interested in discussions like this so cut the holier than thou crap.

Well done

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ won both game 6 to 2.....good start to the spring despite the early rain. Was surprised about the NYC team. They were big and pretty solid.

Then TB beat NYC by a wide margin. fl$ goalies played great. Very good scrimmages.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ won both game 6 to 2.....good start to the spring despite the early rain. Was surprised about the NYC team. They were big and pretty solid.

Then TB beat NYC by a wide margin. fl$ goalies played great. Very good scrimmages.

Is the Wolverines the team that they Call Express - team 2?

What is all greys 2020 like?

Yes and Barracudas are team 3

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of talk here about the A teams but who would people rate as the better B teams in this age group?

That would depend on how you define a B team. For example, last year Titanium was technically 91's B team but they were arguably the 3rd or 4th best team in this age. If you choose to go with AA as the best teams (Crush, Terps, Legacy) and A as the next tier (Igloo, True Blue, fl$, Wolverines, Team LI, Vipers) then the B teams would be next (Outlaws Black, 91 Orangemen, Legacy Ravage) and then there could even be a C tier (Outlaws Silver, 91 Stampede). And please refrain from the useless comments on how ridiculous it is to rank the teams, blah blah blah...if you are on this message board, you are interested in discussions like this so cut the holier than thou crap.

Agreed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ won both game 6 to 2.....good start to the spring despite the early rain. Was surprised about the NYC team. They were big and pretty solid.

Then TB beat NYC by a wide margin. fl$ goalies played great. Very good scrimmages.

Is the Wolverines the team that they Call Express - team 2?

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and Barracudas are team 3

Thanks

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

There are always spots available. 2-3 new kids a year due to adjustments both ways.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

There are always spots available. 2-3 new kids a year due to adjustments both ways.

But don't kid yourself, your son had better be the best! Crush is not for good or very good, only the absolute best (and a couple of kids that have dads who hang with the coach). And even the ones that don't belong are very good.

Thats great to know. I am holding back my 2019 goalie and plan on tryout for the team I have made the right phone calls should be fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thats great to know. I am holding back my 2019 goalie and plan on tryout for the team I have made the right phone calls should be fun.

He better be damn mf good. Really good, if he is getting held back for lax, something tells me he isn't good enough.

Moving to PA. PLENTY of spots for great players. Lower taxes and private school. Still cheaper with my commute 3x wk to NYC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

There are always spots available. 2-3 new kids a year due to adjustments both ways.

But don't kid yourself, your son had better be the best! Crush is not for good or very good, only the absolute best (and a couple of kids that have dads who hang with the coach). And even the ones that don't belong are very good.

There may be 2-3 spots a year on Crush which happens because kids leave when they don't play. So perhaps you can get your kid on the team by taking advantage of this phenomenon...but then he more than likely becomes the new kid who doesn't play. This is not unique to Crush, kids leave Terps and other top teams for the same reason. Great for Dad to brag about his son being on the team, but if the kid is not playing is there any point? Also, it is expensive to be on Crush or Terps. They travel all over the place constantly, which is great if your kid is part of it, getting better against top teams and having fun. Think about it, though, if you are going out of state every weekend to watch your kid get garbage time minutes. It can be very, very frustrating. Just go in with your eyes open....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moving to PA. PLENTY of spots for great players. Lower taxes and private school. Still cheaper with my commute 3x wk to NYC

You go ahead and enjoy that. And especially the neighbors with the missing teeth and the still out back making 'shine in the woods. No Thank You!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

There are always spots available. 2-3 new kids a year due to adjustments both ways.

But don't kid yourself, your son had better be the best! Crush is not for good or very good, only the absolute best (and a couple of kids that have dads who hang with the coach). And even the ones that don't belong are very good.

Get off your high horse. Their are 22 kids on that team. Only 13 see the field for significant playing time. Plenty of kids out their just as good as the Crush kids. Crush is fortunate to have 13 quality players on one team. That's hard to find with so many teams out there. They started early and did a nice job developing them over the Years

PA Home of the two time High School National Champions. Haverford, EA, Malvern all in a stones throw. Probably the hottest 20 square miles when it comes to lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PA Home of the two time High School National Champions. Haverford, EA, Malvern all in a stones throw. Probably the hottest 20 square miles when it comes to lacrosse.

Home of a few holdbacks too.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

There are always spots available. 2-3 new kids a year due to adjustments both ways.

But don't kid yourself, your son had better be the best! Crush is not for good or very good, only the absolute best (and a couple of kids that have dads who hang with the coach). And even the ones that don't belong are very good.

Get off your high horse. Their are 22 kids on that team. Only 13 see the field for significant playing time. Plenty of kids out their just as good as the Crush kids. Crush is fortunate to have 13 quality players on one team. That's hard to find with so many teams out there. They started early and did a nice job developing them over the Years

I would tend to agree with you, however from what I have always observed while watching that team there are probably 4 or 5 players on that Crush team who are true difference makers. They have 2 midfielders who are excellent and the left attack man who is absolutely exceptional. I agree That the first line of Crush is probably the best in the age, but kids are still developing and only time will tell if teams catch up or fall further behind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

There are always spots available. 2-3 new kids a year due to adjustments both ways.

But don't kid yourself, your son had better be the best! Crush is not for good or very good, only the absolute best (and a couple of kids that have dads who hang with the coach). And even the ones that don't belong are very good.

Get off your high horse. Their are 22 kids on that team. Only 13 see the field for significant playing time. Plenty of kids out their just as good as the Crush kids. Crush is fortunate to have 13 quality players on one team. That's hard to find with so many teams out there. They started early and did a nice job developing them over the Years

Plenty of kids just as good? Ya think? I don't. I think the view is nice from this saddle. Frankly, even a practice player on Crush is getting better than most of their peers. That is just the facts.

Unfortunately they are a small team in shear size and weight...When you start playing 15 and 16 year olds that have your kid by 50 or 60 pounds it ain't as easy as it used to be. Good luck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

There are always spots available. 2-3 new kids a year due to adjustments both ways.

But don't kid yourself, your son had better be the best! Crush is not for good or very good, only the absolute best (and a couple of kids that have dads who hang with the coach). And even the ones that don't belong are very good.

Get off your high horse. Their are 22 kids on that team. Only 13 see the field for significant playing time. Plenty of kids out their just as good as the Crush kids. Crush is fortunate to have 13 quality players on one team. That's hard to find with so many teams out there. They started early and did a nice job developing them over the Years

Plenty of kids just as good? Ya think? I don't. I think the view is nice from this saddle. Frankly, even a practice player on Crush is getting better than most of their peers. That is just the facts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

There are always spots available. 2-3 new kids a year due to adjustments both ways.

But don't kid yourself, your son had better be the best! Crush is not for good or very good, only the absolute best (and a couple of kids that have dads who hang with the coach). And even the ones that don't belong are very good.

Get off your high horse. Their are 22 kids on that team. Only 13 see the field for significant playing time. Plenty of kids out their just as good as the Crush kids. Crush is fortunate to have 13 quality players on one team. That's hard to find with so many teams out there. They started early and did a nice job developing them over the Years

Plenty of kids just as good? Ya think? I don't. I think the view is nice from this saddle. Frankly, even a practice player on Crush is getting better than most of their peers. That is just the facts.

Have yet to meet a kid who is happy just getting to practice but not play meaningful minutes, or at all, in the game. At the end of the day they are still kids....they all want to play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is all greys 2020 like?

...that good huh

need to know the right people, with any of these teams. as soon as they establish their cores its friends and family.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

There are always spots available. 2-3 new kids a year due to adjustments both ways.

But don't kid yourself, your son had better be the best! Crush is not for good or very good, only the absolute best (and a couple of kids that have dads who hang with the coach). And even the ones that don't belong are very good.

Get off your high horse. Their are 22 kids on that team. Only 13 see the field for significant playing time. Plenty of kids out their just as good as the Crush kids. Crush is fortunate to have 13 quality players on one team. That's hard to find with so many teams out there. They started early and did a nice job developing them over the Years

Plenty of kids just as good? Ya think? I don't. I think the view is nice from this saddle. Frankly, even a practice player on Crush is getting better than most of their peers. That is just the facts.

Have yet to meet a kid who is happy just getting to practice but not play meaningful minutes, or at all, in the game. At the end of the day they are still kids....they all want to play.

No good player wants to be a practice cone no matter how many t-shirts he gets.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

There are always spots available. 2-3 new kids a year due to adjustments both ways.

But don't kid yourself, your son had better be the best! Crush is not for good or very good, only the absolute best (and a couple of kids that have dads who hang with the coach). And even the ones that don't belong are very good.

Get off your high horse. Their are 22 kids on that team. Only 13 see the field for significant playing time. Plenty of kids out their just as good as the Crush kids. Crush is fortunate to have 13 quality players on one team. That's hard to find with so many teams out there. They started early and did a nice job developing them over the Years

Plenty of kids just as good? Ya think? I don't. I think the view is nice from this saddle. Frankly, even a practice player on Crush is getting better than most of their peers. That is just the facts.

No, that is opinion. There are plenty just as good. Saw players just as good at tryouts. Need to crack starting lineup to make team. Otherwise no reason for coach to change players where they have kids willing to ride the pine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the 2020 Crush Team locked down? I know they have been playing together for years(which is funny bec they are 7th gr) and want to know if a player can make it, if he is not a Duke coaches son.

This is a legit question. I believe the answer is No way is a spot available. But I thought I wd ask the 2020 parents.

There are always spots available. 2-3 new kids a year due to adjustments both ways.

But don't kid yourself, your son had better be the best! Crush is not for good or very good, only the absolute best (and a couple of kids that have dads who hang with the coach). And even the ones that don't belong are very good.

Get off your high horse. Their are 22 kids on that team. Only 13 see the field for significant playing time. Plenty of kids out their just as good as the Crush kids. Crush is fortunate to have 13 quality players on one team. That's hard to find with so many teams out there. They started early and did a nice job developing them over the Years

Plenty of kids just as good? Ya think? I don't. I think the view is nice from this saddle. Frankly, even a practice player on Crush is getting better than most of their peers. That is just the facts.

No, that is opinion. There are plenty just as good. Saw players just as good at tryouts. Need to crack starting lineup to make team. Otherwise no reason for coach to change players where they have kids willing to ride the pine.

Seems like a green eyed monster is rearing it's ugly head. Face it, your kid didn't make the best team in the country, because he is not at that level. Face facts!

From what u have read, and heard:

Fact of the matter is:

CRUSH is committed to its current players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what u have read, and heard:

Fact of the matter is:

CRUSH is committed to its current players.

Fact: and they are the best or close to it top to bottom. Even more of a fact, they are getting better.

Even better fact. The bench players never play in games and are convinced their kids are happy getting better in prax. All will change soon as they enter the recruiting window. Only so many will get the showcase invites. Non starters will start to look at other options. Tough entry point though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what u have read, and heard:

Fact of the matter is:

CRUSH is committed to its current players.

Fact: and they are the best or close to it top to bottom. Even more of a fact, they are getting better.

No doubt a great team.
However, there are plenty of kids just as good, and many will surpass crush players in the coming years.
Every year approximately 150-160 kids from LI's graduating class go off to play D-1 lacrosse. If all 24 players make D-1 on crush, and they won't, that leaves another 120-135 players that will also be D-1 recruits. Hence on the same level as those players, playing with and competing against those crush players at the highest levels.
These are indisputable facts. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. Try taking a bite of a little humble pie, it will do you some good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what u have read, and heard:

Fact of the matter is:

CRUSH is committed to its current players.

Fact: and they are the best or close to it top to bottom. Even more of a fact, they are getting better.

No doubt a great team.
However, there are plenty of kids just as good, and many will surpass crush players in the coming years.
Every year approximately 150-160 kids from LI's graduating class go off to play D-1 lacrosse. If all 24 players make D-1 on crush, and they won't, that leaves another 120-135 players that will also be D-1 recruits. Hence on the same level as those players, playing with and competing against those crush players at the highest levels.
These are indisputable facts. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. Try taking a bite of a little humble pie, it will do you some good.

Very well said.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what u have read, and heard:

Fact of the matter is:

CRUSH is committed to its current players.

Fact: and they are the best or close to it top to bottom. Even more of a fact, they are getting better.

No doubt a great team.
However, there are plenty of kids just as good, and many will surpass crush players in the coming years.
Every year approximately 150-160 kids from LI's graduating class go off to play D-1 lacrosse. If all 24 players make D-1 on crush, and they won't, that leaves another 120-135 players that will also be D-1 recruits. Hence on the same level as those players, playing with and competing against those crush players at the highest levels.
These are indisputable facts. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. Try taking a bite of a little humble pie, it will do you some good.

saying that they are the best is being humble in my book.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what u have read, and heard:

Fact of the matter is:

CRUSH is committed to its current players.

Fact: and they are the best or close to it top to bottom. Even more of a fact, they are getting better.

No doubt a great team.
However, there are plenty of kids just as good, and many will surpass crush players in the coming years.
Every year approximately 150-160 kids from LI's graduating class go off to play D-1 lacrosse. If all 24 players make D-1 on crush, and they won't, that leaves another 120-135 players that will also be D-1 recruits. Hence on the same level as those players, playing with and competing against those crush players at the highest levels.
These are indisputable facts. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. Try taking a bite of a little humble pie, it will do you some good.

saying that they are the best is being humble in my book.

Moving along, I see Forsberg schedule is out. Credit the directors for getting a schedule together and out so early. Terps are playing up, but 7A teams should make for good lacrosse.

Forsberg 7A has Vipers, Team LI, Outlaws Black and Three Village. Should all be competitive games. Based on last year, Team LI would be the team to beat but they haven't been seen yet this year so who knows how they are this year? Vipers seemed to have improved from last year. Three Village has won some tournaments against travel teams including the Outlaws Black so they'd be third and then would come the Outlaws. Regardless, will be good to see teams actually playing each other and also very nice job by Outlaws directors getting the schedule out so early. Hope other tournaments follow suit in the future!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forsberg 7A has Vipers, Team LI, Outlaws Black and Three Village. Should all be competitive games. Based on last year, Team LI would be the team to beat but they haven't been seen yet this year so who knows how they are this year? Vipers seemed to have improved from last year. Three Village has won some tournaments against travel teams including the Outlaws Black so they'd be third and then would come the Outlaws. Regardless, will be good to see teams actually playing each other and also very nice job by Outlaws directors getting the schedule out so early. Hope other tournaments follow suit in the future!

What did TLI do last year that they are the team to beat? I'm not familiar with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forsberg 7A has Vipers, Team LI, Outlaws Black and Three Village. Should all be competitive games. Based on last year, Team LI would be the team to beat but they haven't been seen yet this year so who knows how they are this year? Vipers seemed to have improved from last year. Three Village has won some tournaments against travel teams including the Outlaws Black so they'd be third and then would come the Outlaws. Regardless, will be good to see teams actually playing each other and also very nice job by Outlaws directors getting the schedule out so early. Hope other tournaments follow suit in the future!

Team LI will most likely show up with their U based team. Expect mostly 8th graders on that team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forsberg 7A has Vipers, Team LI, Outlaws Black and Three Village. Should all be competitive games. Based on last year, Team LI would be the team to beat but they haven't been seen yet this year so who knows how they are this year? Vipers seemed to have improved from last year. Three Village has won some tournaments against travel teams including the Outlaws Black so they'd be third and then would come the Outlaws. Regardless, will be good to see teams actually playing each other and also very nice job by Outlaws directors getting the schedule out so early. Hope other tournaments follow suit in the future!

Team LI will most likely show up with their U based team. Expect mostly 8th graders on that team.

It means the players are all 13 or younger as of Aug. 31, 2015.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forsberg 7A has Vipers, Team LI, Outlaws Black and Three Village. Should all be competitive games. Based on last year, Team LI would be the team to beat but they haven't been seen yet this year so who knows how they are this year? Vipers seemed to have improved from last year. Three Village has won some tournaments against travel teams including the Outlaws Black so they'd be third and then would come the Outlaws. Regardless, will be good to see teams actually playing each other and also very nice job by Outlaws directors getting the schedule out so early. Hope other tournaments follow suit in the future!

Team LI will most likely show up with their U based team. Expect mostly 8th graders on that team.

And like other U13 teams, they will still be younger than most teams they play this summer. Every team should be aged based until HS. But there's another thread for such talk.

I understand Outlaws are improved. Look forward to seeing them play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forsberg 7A has Vipers, Team LI, Outlaws Black and Three Village. Should all be competitive games. Based on last year, Team LI would be the team to beat but they haven't been seen yet this year so who knows how they are this year? Vipers seemed to have improved from last year. Three Village has won some tournaments against travel teams including the Outlaws Black so they'd be third and then would come the Outlaws. Regardless, will be good to see teams actually playing each other and also very nice job by Outlaws directors getting the
schedule out so early. Hope other tournaments follow suit in the future!

Team LI will most likely show up with their U based team. Expect mostly 8th graders on that team.

And like other U13 teams, they will still be younger than most teams they play this summer. Every team should be aged based until HS. But there's another thread for such talk.

I understand Outlaws are improved. Look forward to seeing them play.

Outlaws consistently lose to Legacy Ravage (their B team), the last time being just 2 weeks ago at the Blatant Spring Jam so to paraphrase the immortal Inigo Montoya...you use the word improved but I do not think it means what you think it means! Of course the proof is on the field and between the JDRF and this tournament, the question of whether the Outlaws have improved will be definitely answered.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what u have read, and heard:

Fact of the matter is:

CRUSH is committed to its current players.

Fact: and they are the best or close to it top to bottom. Even more of a fact, they are getting better.

No doubt a great team.
However, there are plenty of kids just as good, and many will surpass crush players in the coming years.
Every year approximately 150-160 kids from LI's graduating class go off to play D-1 lacrosse. If all 24 players make D-1 on crush, and they won't, that leaves another 120-135 players that will also be D-1 recruits. Hence on the same level as those players, playing with and competing against those crush players at the highest levels.
These are indisputable facts. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. Try taking a bite of a little humble pie, it will do you some good.

Very well said.....

This statement assumes that Crush players will not also continue to get better and continue to better their skills. Its like what I have seen on here a million times, "just wait until kids start hitting puberty, those Crush kids will start to loose and fall behind". I'm not a medical doctor nor am I a physiologist, but my basic understanding of Biology is that it is highly likely the Crush kids will also hit puberty at some point not just kids from every other team but Crush, then what will the excuses be ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what u have read, and heard:

Fact of the matter is:

CRUSH is committed to its current players.

Fact: and they are the best or close to it top to bottom. Even more of a fact, they are getting better.

No doubt a great team.
However, there are plenty of kids just as good, and many will surpass crush players in the coming years.
Every year approximately 150-160 kids from LI's graduating class go off to play D-1 lacrosse. If all 24 players make D-1 on crush, and they won't, that leaves another 120-135 players that will also be D-1 recruits. Hence on the same level as those players, playing with and competing against those crush players at the highest levels.
These are indisputable facts. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. Try taking a bite of a little humble pie, it will do you some good.

Very well said.....

This statement assumes that Crush players will not also continue to get better and continue to better their skills. Its like what I have seen on here a million times, "just wait until kids start hitting puberty, those Crush kids will start to loose and fall behind". I'm not a medical doctor nor am I a physiologist, but my basic understanding of Biology is that it is highly likely the Crush kids will also hit puberty at some point not just kids from every other team but Crush, then what will the excuses be ?

I think the point is that there are many other strong players on the island. Crush has the benefit of having 3-4 of the absolute clear best players, they're the difference makers. Not knocking the team or the other kids, who are all strong and would likely start on any other AA travel team, just stating a fact that they have a few dominant players that are true game changers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what u have read, and heard:

Fact of the matter is:

CRUSH is committed to its current players.

Fact: and they are the best or close to it top to bottom. Even more of a fact, they are getting better.

No doubt a great team.
However, there are plenty of kids just as good, and many will surpass crush players in the coming years.
Every year approximately 150-160 kids from LI's graduating class go off to play D-1 lacrosse. If all 24 players make D-1 on crush, and they won't, that leaves another 120-135 players that will also be D-1 recruits. Hence on the same level as those players, playing with and competing against those crush players at the highest levels.
These are indisputable facts. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. Try taking a bite of a little humble pie, it will do you some good.

Very well said.....

This statement assumes that Crush players will not also continue to get better and continue to better their skills. Its like what I have seen on here a million times, "just wait until kids start hitting puberty, those Crush kids will start to loose and fall behind". I'm not a medical doctor nor am I a physiologist, but my basic understanding of Biology is that it is highly likely the Crush kids will also hit puberty at some point not just kids from every other team but Crush, then what will the excuses be ?

I think the point is that there are many other strong players on the island. Crush has the benefit of having 3-4 of the absolute clear best players, they're the difference makers. Not knocking the team or the other kids, who are all strong and would likely start on any other AA travel team, just stating a fact that they have a few dominant players that are true game changers.

take the top 3-4 players off any team and they'll be knocked down a level

Crush is an offensive powerhouse. However, having watched them play, you cannot convince me their defense and goalies fall in that same uber elite category. They are very, very talented players, don't get me wrong, but if you switched them out for the goalies and defense from Terps, Legacy, etc. I believe Crush would keep rolling without missing a beat. Nor are they obviously playing all the kids evenly which also sort of argues against the notion that these are, without question, the top 24 kids in this age group on LI.

Here is the difference. The Crush kids skill level doesn't have much room to grow. So what happens along with puberty is the other kids who don't have the skill set begin to develop it and it closes the gap.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush is an offensive powerhouse. However, having watched them play, you cannot convince me their defense and goalies fall in that same uber elite category. They are very, very talented players, don't get me wrong, but if you switched them out for the goalies and defense from Terps, Legacy, etc. I believe Crush would keep rolling without missing a beat. Nor are they obviously playing all the kids evenly which also sort of argues against the notion that these are, without question, the top 24 kids in this age group on LI.

Their defense is as good as anyone's - the difference makers are definitely their top two or three offensive players, who are phenomenal. But you can't knock this team at all, they work harder than any other team and the kids are incredibly committed.

I agree, have watched them play a few times and has a few great offensive players. Everyone is catching up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush is an offensive powerhouse. However, having watched them play, you cannot convince me their defense and goalies fall in that same uber elite category. They are very, very talented players, don't get me wrong, but if you switched them out for the goalies and defense from Terps, Legacy, etc. I believe Crush would keep rolling without missing a beat. Nor are they obviously playing all the kids evenly which also sort of argues against the notion that these are, without question, the top 24 kids in this age group on LI.

Who would want their kid as goalie for crush? I guess he sees the best in prax but yawn during the games

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forsberg 7A has Vipers, Team LI, Outlaws Black and Three Village. Should all be competitive games. Based on last year, Team LI would be the team to beat but they haven't been seen yet this year so who knows how they are this year? Vipers seemed to have improved from last year. Three Village has won some tournaments against travel teams including the Outlaws Black so they'd be third and then would come the Outlaws. Regardless, will be good to see teams actually playing each other and also very nice job by Outlaws directors getting the schedule out so early. Hope other tournaments follow suit in the future!

What did TLI do last year that they are the team to beat? I'm not familiar with them.

They made it to the final of the Maverick big time Shootout last year.

Take top 4 offensive players off the Crush and i agree there isn't a huge difference between them and other teams but take four top offensive kids off any team and there will be a difference . As someone who's son competes with this team consistently the two attackman and two midfielders are at a different level. Saw these boys at Blue chip in Florida up close and it was quite the spectical. Also saw some of their defense there and having watched Crush play so many times you don't really get to see their defense play much defense at blue chip they were impressive so playing vs the best in practice is beneficial. Think it's great for other 2020 teams to have a team to strive for, it will improve the grade level. Puberty will close the gap a little but hardly enough. I think the more pressing question is who rounds out the top 5 in 2020. Think my sons team has improved but time will tell we are not from the island and it's tough to measure up. My opinion
Crush
Looneys
Crabs
Express
Sons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take top 4 offensive players off the Crush and i agree there isn't a huge difference between them and other teams but take four top offensive kids off any team and there will be a difference . As someone who's son competes with this team consistently the two attackman and two midfielders are at a different level. Saw these boys at Blue chip in Florida up close and it was quite the spectical. Also saw some of their defense there and having watched Crush play so many times you don't really get to see their defense play much defense at blue chip they were impressive so playing vs the best in practice is beneficial. Think it's great for other 2020 teams to have a team to strive for, it will improve the grade level. Puberty will close the gap a little but hardly enough. I think the more pressing question is who rounds out the top 5 in 2020. Think my sons team has improved but time will tell we are not from the island and it's tough to measure up. My opinion
Crush
Looneys
Crabs
Express
Sons

Good points but Express beat Looney's by a decent margin a few weeks ago

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forsberg 7A has Vipers, Team LI, Outlaws Black and Three Village. Should all be competitive games. Based on last year, Team LI would be the team to beat but they haven't been seen yet this year so who knows how they are this year? Vipers seemed to have improved from last year. Three Village has won some tournaments against travel teams including the Outlaws Black so they'd be third and then would come the Outlaws. Regardless, will be good to see teams actually playing each other and also very nice job by Outlaws directors getting the schedule out so early. Hope other tournaments follow suit in the future!

What did TLI do last year that they are the team to beat? I'm not familiar with them.

They made it to the final of the Maverick big time Shootout last year.

Wow! They came in second in a tournament no one goes to! Impressive. And if in true TLI fashion, should have had older kids on team because ........that's what they do by consistantly playing by different age rules!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Take top 4 offensive players off the Crush and i agree there isn't a huge difference between them and other teams but take four top offensive kids off any team and there will be a difference . As someone who's son competes with this team consistently the two attackman and two midfielders are at a different level. Saw these boys at Blue chip in Florida up close and it was quite the spectical. Also saw some of their defense there and having watched Crush play so many times you don't really get to see their defense play much defense at blue chip they were impressive so playing vs the best in practice is beneficial. Think it's great for other 2020 teams to have a team to strive for, it will improve the grade level. Puberty will close the gap a little but hardly enough. I think the more pressing question is who rounds out the top 5 in 2020. Think my sons team has improved but time will tell we are not from the island and it's tough to measure up. My opinion
Crush
Looneys
Crabs
Express
Sons

Good points but Express beat Looney's by a decent margin a few weeks ago

Here is my list
Crush
Express
Crabs beat looneys,breakers, Hawks
Fca beat looneys twice but lost to breakers twice
Hawks beat breakers

They may have reloaded this year. See what happens.

And I think Sons and Crabs beat Looney's also

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And I think Sons and Crabs beat Looney's also

Sons are cheaters! Do not belong on the list.

The summer is a long season. We will know the top teams by the end.

Any thoughts as to why the Breakers can't seem to beat the Hawks? Match up issues?

Today's scores for JDRF 2020 A
Express Team 2 beat Outlaws Black 4-2 (Great game)
True Blue Blue beat Empire 10-1
True Blue Blue beat Outlaws Black 9-3
Express Team 2 beat Empire 6-2
True Blue beat Express Team 2 by 7 not exactly sure the exact score
Outlaws Black beat Empire 6-1
Really Impressed with all teams True Blue and Outlaws have definitely improved

Empire amd outlaws coukd have been in second bracket. Viper was ripped off by being in bracket 2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any thoughts as to why the Breakers can't seem to beat the Hawks? Match up issues?

Good question. A lot of talent on that team but they don't seem to be able to make the most of it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire amd outlaws coukd have been in second bracket. Viper was ripped off by being in bracket 2.

Mr. Viper Dad. Instead of bitching on here, maybe tell your coach to tell your directors to request they be placed in the top bracket. Why would anyone assume a Viper team should be in a top bracket without specifically requesting it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Today's scores for JDRF 2020 A
Express Team 2 beat Outlaws Black 4-2 (Great game)
True Blue Blue beat Empire 10-1
True Blue Blue beat Outlaws Black 9-3
Express Team 2 beat Empire 6-2
True Blue beat Express Team 2 by 7 not exactly sure the exact score
Outlaws Black beat Empire 6-1
Really Impressed with all teams True Blue and Outlaws have definitely improved

True Blue didn't play their starters the 2nd half against Outlaws.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire amd outlaws coukd have been in second bracket. Viper was ripped off by being in bracket 2.

Mr. Viper Dad. Instead of bitching on here, maybe tell your coach to tell your directors to request they be placed in the top bracket. Why would anyone assume a Viper team should be in a top bracket without specifically requesting it.

they did ut true blue makes the schedule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forsberg 7A has Vipers, Team LI, Outlaws Black and Three Village. Should all be competitive games. Based on last year, Team LI would be the team to beat but they haven't been seen yet this year so who knows how they are this year? Vipers seemed to have improved from last year. Three Village has won some tournaments against travel teams including the Outlaws Black so they'd be third and then would come the Outlaws. Regardless, will be good to see teams actually playing each other and also very nice job by Outlaws directors getting the
schedule out so early. Hope other tournaments follow suit in the future!

Team LI will most likely show up with their U based team. Expect mostly 8th graders on that team.

And like other U13 teams, they will still be younger than most teams they play this summer. Every team should be aged based until HS. But there's another thread for such talk.

I understand Outlaws are improved. Look forward to seeing them play.

Outlaws consistently lose to Legacy Ravage (their B team), the last time being just 2 weeks ago at the Blatant Spring Jam so to paraphrase the immortal Inigo Montoya...you use the word improved but I do not think it means what you think it means! Of course the proof is on the field and between the JDRF and this tournament, the question of whether the Outlaws have improved will be definitely answered.

Outlaws had a tough day today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire amd outlaws coukd have been in second bracket. Viper was ripped off by being in bracket 2.

Are the Vipers going to enter the A bracket at Laxfest?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire amd outlaws coukd have been in second bracket. Viper was ripped off by being in bracket 2.

Mr. Viper Dad. Instead of bitching on here, maybe tell your coach to tell your directors to request they be placed in the top bracket. Why would anyone assume a Viper team should be in a top bracket without specifically requesting it.

maybe they will match ul at lax fest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire amd outlaws coukd have been in second bracket. Viper was ripped off by being in bracket 2.

Are the Vipers going to enter the A bracket at Laxfest?

They have requested to be in the A bracket at Lax Fest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire amd outlaws coukd have been in second bracket. Viper was ripped off by being in bracket 2.

Mr. Viper Dad. Instead of bitching on here, maybe tell your coach to tell your directors to request they be placed in the top bracket. Why would anyone assume a Viper team should be in a top bracket without specifically requesting it.

they did ut true blue makes the schedule.

You obviously have a significant inferiority complex. The last time Vipers were in top bracket at JDRF they played TB 2020 and the score was around 16-2. It's nice to hear that your son's team has improved since then. It's great when smaller groups have teams that do well, and Tom Luzzi is a great guy. However, they didn't request to be in the top division last year or this year.
What is your email address? I will ask the woman who receives the registrations for JDRF to email you the Viper 2020 form, which didn't request to be in the A bracket. I just asked her to confirm that and make sure that you were full of it, which you are. It obviously means a lot that your son is on an "A" team. Enter the A bracket at Laxfest and that will give you that answer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire amd outlaws coukd have been in second bracket. Viper was ripped off by being in bracket 2.

Mr. Viper Dad. Instead of bitching on here, maybe tell your coach to tell your directors to request they be placed in the top bracket. Why would anyone assume a Viper team should be in a top bracket without specifically requesting it.

they did ut true blue makes the schedule.

You obviously have a significant inferiority complex. The last time Vipers were in top bracket at JDRF they played TB 2020 and the score was around 16-2. It's nice to hear that your son's team has improved since then. It's great when smaller groups have teams that do well, and Tom Luzzi is a great guy. However, they didn't request to be in the top division last year or this year.
What is your email address? I will ask the woman who receives the registrations for JDRF to email you the Viper 2020 form, which didn't request to be in the A bracket. I just asked her to confirm that and make sure that you were full of it, which you are. It obviously means a lot that your son is on an "A" team. Enter the A bracket at Laxfest and that will give you that answer.

If that is the case then we hopefully match up at Lax Fest. No inferiority complex. Just want to play better teams.

So your desire to play better teams made you state that your team was "ripped off" by a tournament that gives all money raised to help sick children? Then you lied and said your team requested to be in the A bracket, which they did not.
Are you going to go for one more ignorant statement for the trifecta?

Will blackwolf lacrosse be fielding a 2020 team next year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will blackwolf lacrosse be fielding a 2020 team next year

Where are they from?

Viper you need to get your parents under control on this site, after every tourney they blow up the site about how something went wrong or you were ripped off, this is not a good image for your club. No one is denying you have some decent teams, just control yourselves especially after a weekend like this. How did the team do in their bracket, assuming beat everyone by 10+ the way you are reacting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Viper you need to get your parents under control on this site, after every tourney they blow up the site about how something went wrong or you were ripped off, this is not a good image for your club. No one is denying you have some decent teams, just control yourselves especially after a weekend like this. How did the team do in their bracket, assuming beat everyone by 10+ the way you are reacting.

It has been addressed. Apologize for the ruckus. It was a great event for a good cause.

Hawks are a good team. Crabs edged them 8-7 yesterday in the NPYLL championship. Awesome game to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks are a good team. Crabs edged them 8-7 yesterday in the NPYLL championship. Awesome game to watch.

Looks like a rematch this Sunday if they both win their brackets at Beach Lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire amd outlaws coukd have been in second bracket. Viper was ripped off by being in bracket 2.

Are the Vipers going to enter the A bracket at Laxfest?

They have requested to be in the A bracket at Lax Fest.

How many brackets does Laxfest have? Never to sure what the bracket designation means anymore.

* A team who is an "A" team might be called a "B" team because it is the organizations 2nd or 3rd team.

* Then there are those organizations that have only one team so it is called an 'A" team when they are truly skillfully a "B" team.

what other teams are in the A bracket.

After this weekend we've really got a good idea where teams line up. Here they are:
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
True Blue Blue
Viper
fl$
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
NYC
Team 91 Orangemen
Jesters

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Today's scores for JDRF 2020 A
Express Team 2 beat Outlaws Black 4-2 (Great game)
True Blue Blue beat Empire 10-1
True Blue Blue beat Outlaws Black 9-3
Express Team 2 beat Empire 6-2
True Blue beat Express Team 2 by 7 not exactly sure the exact score
Outlaws Black beat Empire 6-1
Really Impressed with all teams True Blue and Outlaws have definitely improved

Ok, Outlaws dad/coach, we get that you are desperate to be considered competitive with true A teams. Instead of fudging scores to make the argument, your chance comes on the field this weekend with actual scores posted on website so everyone will see how you did against Vipers, Three Village and Team Long Island. If you can beat all 3 and take title, feel free to come back on here and crow about how much you've improved. But you should also be man enough if things don't go your way, to also come back on here, post the scores, and congratulate the other teams on their performance. I won't be holding my breath for that sort of display of humility, class and sportsmanship as it would be completely atypical but miracles do happen (see US Hockey Team 1980)

List is kind of funny. If you've read previous posts you would see some info that may change your mind. True Blue lost by 4 to fl$ a couple weeks ago. Season has started and questions will soon be answered. Just hope these teams that keep chirping on here enter the A brackets at some of the better tournaments. Good luck to all and just enjoy the chance to play.

Can the Jesters compete with True Blue and fl$ ? Seems they did well this weekend at JDRF

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can the Jesters compete with True Blue and fl$ ? Seems they did well this weekend at JDRF

Not in 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can the Jesters compete with True Blue and fl$ ? Seems they did well this weekend at JDRF

Not even close. By request, they played in the bottom bracket of travel teams at JDRF.They played against the True Blue B team.Tomahawks, Be the best and the Hitmen would beat the Jesters this year.

Anybody have any insight on what Head coaches and assistant coaches are making for some of the top LI clubs?
Head Coach?
Assistant Coach?
College player assisting?

Who cares what one guy ranks these teams at. Many will play each other over the next month and a half.

Plenty of tournaments in the coming weeks but yes, fl$ did beat True two weeks ago by 3-4 goals. No brash statement, just not much has been mentioned about them yet this spring and that is one data point vs. local competition. I think they beat someone else that same day but can't remember who it was...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can the Jesters compete with True Blue and fl$ ? Seems they did well this weekend at JDRF

Not even close. By request, they played in the bottom bracket of travel teams at JDRF.They played against the True Blue B team.Tomahawks, Be the best and the Hitmen would beat the Jesters this year.

Be the best??? They beat them by a dozen goals last year and took it easy on them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can the Jesters compete with True Blue and fl$ ? Seems they did well this weekend at JDRF

Not even close. By request, they played in the bottom bracket of travel teams at JDRF.They played against the True Blue B team.Tomahawks, Be the best and the Hitmen would beat the Jesters this year.

By request says who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can the Jesters compete with True Blue and fl$ ? Seems they did well this weekend at JDRF

Not even close. By request, they played in the bottom bracket of travel teams at JDRF.They played against the True Blue B team.Tomahawks, Be the best and the Hitmen would beat the Jesters this year.

By request says who?

Jesters are in the B division of Forsberg this weekend. That puts them with Legacy Ravage, Express 3 and some decent town teams among others. If anyone really thinks Jesters are on par with True Blue and fl$ then they will absolutely demolish their competition this weekend. When they don't (and they likely won't), you'll have your answer from results on the field instead of from postings on a message board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can the Jesters compete with True Blue and fl$ ? Seems they did well this weekend at JDRF

Not even close. By request, they played in the bottom bracket of travel teams at JDRF.They played against the True Blue B team.Tomahawks, Be the best and the Hitmen would beat the Jesters this year.

By request says who?

Jesters are in the B division of Forsberg this weekend. That puts them with Legacy Ravage, Express 3 and some decent town teams among others. If anyone really thinks Jesters are on par with True Blue and fl$ then they will absolutely demolish their competition this weekend. When they don't (and they likely won't), you'll have your answer from results on the field instead of from postings on a message board.

I didn't see anyone say Jesters were A team at this level?? Who cares about them if you don't play on team? Is it not OK to be a B team? Seems like there are a lot more B then A teams out there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody have any insight on what Head coaches and assistant coaches are making for some of the top LI clubs?
Head Coach?
Assistant Coach?
College player assisting?

whther you like it or not probably less than $10/hr that they put in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Today's scores for JDRF 2020 A
Express Team 2 beat Outlaws Black 4-2 (Great game)
True Blue Blue beat Empire 10-1
True Blue Blue beat Outlaws Black 9-3
Express Team 2 beat Empire 6-2
True Blue beat Express Team 2 by 7 not exactly sure the exact score
Outlaws Black beat Empire 6-1
Really Impressed with all teams True Blue and Outlaws have definitely improved

The Outlaws took their 2020 Black team out of the top division of Forsberg. I guess their coach doesn't think they've "definitely improved".

Norther Virginia bases of the st stephens school

Good Luck to all the 2020s heading to the beach this weekend! Play well and safe travels...see ya at the beach!

what ever happened to the Lehigh tournament? used to be a good tournament when our guys were 3rd 4th grade.

How's it going at the beach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's it going at the beach

91 is the only L.I. Team there. They will their division easily.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's it going at the beach

Crush is blowing out teams as usual. Will most likely vs. Crabs later today for championship

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's it going at the beach

Crush is blowing out teams as usual. Will most likely vs. Crabs later today for championship

Good luck boys win with class and spirit!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's it going at the beach

Crush is blowing out teams as usual. Will most likely vs. Crabs later today for championship

Good luck boys win with class and spirit!

They had two players ejected for fighting, I think that takes class out of the equation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's it going at the beach

Crush is blowing out teams as usual. Will most likely vs. Crabs later today for championship

Good luck boys win with class and spirit!

They had two players ejected for fighting, I think that takes class out of the equation.

Luckily they are deep with talent and didn't miss a beat without their "keys".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's it going at the beach

Crush is blowing out teams as usual. Will most likely vs. Crabs later today for championship

Good luck boys win with class and spirit!

They had two players ejected for fighting, I think that takes class out of the equation.

Point totally missed, no surprise there.

Luckily they are deep with talent and didn't miss a beat without their "keys".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire amd outlaws coukd have been in second bracket. Viper was ripped off by being in bracket 2.

Vipers lost twice to a town team today. They beat the Legacy B team by a goal.

Crush lost in overtime to the Crabs, will meet again in Colorado. Will be interesting to see if its the same team of 6 footers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush lost in overtime to the Crabs, will meet again in Colorado. Will be interesting to see if its the same team of 6 footers.

Crush has been playing with hold backs since their inception. They played another great team with hold backs and lost.

What an absolute disgrace. Outlaws put there A team-2020 in B bracket. Put there b team in c-bracket.
Organization is a complete joke.
Outlaws Grey-LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's it going at the beach

91 is the only L.I. Team there. They will their division easily.

Guess it wasn't too easy. Crabs beat Crush in OT. Thought they couldn't lose to another 7th grade team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's it going at the beach

Crush is blowing out teams as usual. Will most likely vs. Crabs later today for championship

Good luck boys win with class and spirit!

They had two players ejected for fighting, I think that takes class out of the equation.

Luckily they are deep with talent and didn't miss a beat without their "keys".

You were saying...

When 99% of Long Island roots for your team to lose to a team from Maryland it's prob time to start thinking about the problem

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's it going at the beach

Crush is blowing out teams as usual. Will most likely vs. Crabs later today for championship

Good luck boys win with class and spirit!

They had two players ejected for fighting, I think that takes class out of the equation.

Luckily they are deep with talent and didn't miss a beat without their "keys".

You were saying...

Full team for championship. No excuses, however it will be interesting to see the teams play each other in a couple weeks when birth certificates need to be produced!

Size and athleticism catches up.

And the complaining about "kids that are too old" will begin in 3, 2, 1...

The crabs goalie and fca goalie played awesome this weekend as well as the big attackman from 91

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush lost in overtime to the Crabs, will meet again in Colorado. Will be interesting to see if its the same team of 6 footers.

Crush has been playing with hold backs since their inception. They played another great team with hold backs and lost.

Well, All Crush players qualify for the World Series of Lacrosse 2020 Colorabo, via birth certificate, should be another close game if we can say the same for Crabs. Will be a great rematch!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Size and athleticism catches up.

Don't all athletic boys grow? Don't quite get your point?

Age makes a big difference too... congratulations to the champions! Great game, I am sure it will be again in Denver.

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Every dynasty comes to an end eventually

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The crabs goalie and fca goalie played awesome this weekend as well as the big attackman from 91

Opinion on face offs for tournament? Who were good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

That is funny... everyone knew they were reclassed, some 1 yr, some 2 years older-it was openly talked about, but it is what it is, that is their 2020 team now and it is the way the Crabs do it. You just have to play your best game. In a few years when true 2020 kids go through puberty it will not be an advantage to those that reclassed. In the mean time- all the true 2020 play hard.

So Aloha let that 91 kid play in the final? If so they should be ashamed. He punched a kid square in the face. Should have never seen the field again.

So what's a better lesson to teach kids? Letting older kids play down or letting 91 have their full team for the Final?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's it going at the beach

Crush is blowing out teams as usual. Will most likely vs. Crabs later today for championship

Good luck boys win with class and spirit!

Does class and spirit include two of their players being suspended from tourney? One for throwing his gloves to the ground and punching an opposing player and the other giving the f bomb to a referee? Very classy and definitely the team we have come to expect. Too bad because they could have said the Crabs were being bad sports by bringing 5 unrostered players down from their 2019 team to add to a team already loaded with holdbacks but instead both teams embarrassed and brought the sport to the gutter this weekend.

They all were pretty much even and all won their fair share but if a team got up by 4 there was no face off

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush lost in overtime to the Crabs, will meet again in Colorado. Will be interesting to see if its the same team of 6 footers.

Crabs will probably have to leave at least 6 of those "men" home but a bigger question is can Crush make it off their flight without starting a brawl that TSA will need to detain them and they will miss their games?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When 99% of Long Island roots for your team to lose to a team from Maryland it's prob time to start thinking about the problem

When other 91 coaches, directors and probably the coach's brother roots for your team to lose from a team from Maryland it's even more telling.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The crabs goalie and fca goalie played awesome this weekend as well as the big attackman from 91

[quote=Anonymous]

Except that the FCA goalie is their 2019 goalie guest appearing with the 2020 team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Aloha let that 91 kid play in the final? If so they should be ashamed. He punched a kid square in the face. Should have never seen the field again.

So what's a better lesson to teach kids? Letting older kids play down or letting 91 have their full team for the Final?

there was no punch to the face as you claim, but, as per tournament rules, 2 crush players were thrown out of that game and withheld from the next game, both boys were defending a teammate who was brutally hit and not being allowed back up by an opposing player and were not just starting trouble. There was only pushing from both teams and no punches thrown from either side. You should tell the whole story not just what you want people to think of a team you dislike, it's people like you who look to make 12 year olds look like thugs that disgust me.

World Series has 5/1 cutoff. Should be 7/1 in my view, but at least they will enforce.

PS - Punched square in face, meaning in the front of the helmet? Or was this off the field with no helmet? Difference between out of game and out of tournament, in my view, although always depends on the circumstances. I've seen some pretty nice kids take baseball swings with their sticks at the opponents midriffs when then got frustrated and only get 3m non-releasable (a gift).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They all were pretty much even and all won their fair share but if a team got up by 4 there was no face off

Even, not! Although certain Kids were clearly dominant it didn't show till the second day when they were not stifled by rules that should not exist at this age group. Loved watching 6 ft tall kids getting smoked by the little ones!

You really think that... Did you notice how short he was? hahahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series has 5/1 cutoff. Should be 7/1 in my view, but at least they will enforce.

PS - Punched square in face, meaning in the front of the helmet? Or was this off the field with no helmet? Difference between out of game and out of tournament, in my view, although always depends on the circumstances. I've seen some pretty nice kids take baseball swings with their sticks at the opponents midriffs when then got frustrated and only get 3m non-releasable (a gift).

5/1 cutoff when New [lacrosse] has a 12/1 cutoff for 2020. Why call it a 2020 tournament when the cutoff date is more than half a year away from a primary state's cutoff?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So Aloha let that 91 kid play in the final? If so they should be ashamed. He punched a kid square in the face. Should have never seen the field again.

So what's a better lesson to teach kids? Letting older kids play down or letting 91 have their full team for the Final?

there was no punch to the face as you claim, but, as per tournament rules, 2 crush players were thrown out of that game and withheld from the next game, both boys were defending a teammate who was brutally hit and not being allowed back up by an opposing player and were not just starting trouble. There was only pushing from both teams and no punches thrown from either side. You should tell the whole story not just what you want people to think of a team you dislike, it's people like you who look to make 12 year olds look like thugs that disgust me.

You're kidding, right? The kid that got kicked out got cross checked as he scored. He immediately turned around and punched the kid in the face. Yes, the kid had his helmet on. How does that change anything? The other 91 kid then followed that up by cross checking the same kid from behind. Don't come on here and lie. 91 had at least 2 dads video taping the game. Post it if you think your inaccurate view of events applies.

You morons love to talk about how the Crabs are teaching their kids wrong life lessons, and you're right. But somehow when the "rules" fit your situation you somehow forget the life lessons. Any coach concerned about developing young men would have sat the kid for the rest of the tournament regardless of rules. That was shameful. You're shameful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When 99% of Long Island roots for your team to lose to a team from Maryland it's prob time to start thinking about the problem

I root for them. They should be celebrated for their teamwork and work ethic. I point them out to my son whenever I can as an example of what hard work results in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Regardless of how/when he found it-he is right. My guess is a Maryland parent shared it with him as Crabs have embarrassed Maryland this weekend with blatant roster loading.

Easy to find the info. One player brought down to play 2020 with Crabs is listed in a private school 8th grade graduating class list and one forgot to change his recruiting profile page from 2019 to 2020 and is listed on another 8th grade private school graduating list. Not hard to find the info out there. Technically they are not 2020s yet as most of the 2020 teams are still in school attending 7th grade classes. Next year they can be fully embarrassed by having pre-1st years and holding back in 8th grade and try to look their opponents in the eye knowing they have manipulated the system. Shame on the parents and the organization.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Regardless of how/when he found it-he is right. My guess is a Maryland parent shared it with him as Crabs have embarrassed Maryland this weekend with blatant roster loading.

Easy to find the info. One player brought down to play 2020 with Crabs is listed in a private school 8th grade graduating class list and one forgot to change his recruiting profile page from 2019 to 2020 and is listed on another 8th grade private school graduating list. Not hard to find the info out there. Technically they are not 2020s yet as most of the 2020 teams are still in school attending 7th grade classes. Next year they can be fully embarrassed by having pre-1st years and holding back in 8th grade and try to look their opponents in the eye knowing they have manipulated the system. Shame on the parents and the organization.

Love it. Even the mighty crush are fading with reality of reclass.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

When 99% of Long Island roots for your team to lose to a team from Maryland it's prob time to start thinking about the problem

I root for them, you jealous [lacrosse]. They should be celebrated for their teamwork and work ethic. I point them out to my son whenever I can as an example of what hard work results in.

LOL! Only result here is that hold backs always win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The crabs goalie and fca goalie played awesome this weekend as well as the big attackman from 91

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except that the FCA goalie is their 2019 goalie guest appearing with the 2020 team.

You really think that... Did you notice how short he was? hahahaha

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Regardless of how/when he found it-he is right. My guess is a Maryland parent shared it with him as Crabs have embarrassed Maryland this weekend with blatant roster loading.

Easy to find the info. One player brought down to play 2020 with Crabs is listed in a private school 8th grade graduating class list and one forgot to change his recruiting profile page from 2019 to 2020 and is listed on another 8th grade private school graduating list. Not hard to find the info out there. Technically they are not 2020s yet as most of the 2020 teams are still in school attending 7th grade classes. Next year they can be fully embarrassed by having pre-1st years and holding back in 8th grade and try to look their opponents in the eye knowing they have manipulated the system. Shame on the parents and the organization.

So having many players that were held back early on your team like Crush has is ok, until they lose to team that has late hold backs on their team. Too funny!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You really think that... Did you notice how short he was? hahahaha

Did you notice how he smoked kids twice his size, hee hee. Pretty embarrassing for the holdback!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series has 5/1 cutoff. Should be 7/1 in my view, but at least they will enforce.

PS - Punched square in face, meaning in the front of the helmet? Or was this off the field with no helmet? Difference between out of game and out of tournament, in my view, although always depends on the circumstances. I've seen some pretty nice kids take baseball swings with their sticks at the opponents midriffs when then got frustrated and only get 3m non-releasable (a gift).

5/1 cutoff when New [lacrosse] has a 12/1 cutoff for 2020. Why call it a 2020 tournament when the cutoff date is more than half a year away from a primary state's cutoff?

lol, are you saying that since NY has a cutoff of 12/1 a tournament that invites a team from NY should go with that cutoff? You are funny! Most of the country have cutoffs of 9/1 and it is very common for boys with summer birthdays to start K when they just turned 6, instead of starting as a young 5 year old. NY is totally in the minority with the 12/1 cutoff

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Regardless of how/when he found it-he is right. My guess is a Maryland parent shared it with him as Crabs have embarrassed Maryland this weekend with blatant roster loading.

Easy to find the info. One player brought down to play 2020 with Crabs is listed in a private school 8th grade graduating class list and one forgot to change his recruiting profile page from 2019 to 2020 and is listed on another 8th grade private school graduating list. Not hard to find the info out there. Technically they are not 2020s yet as most of the 2020 teams are still in school attending 7th grade classes. Next year they can be fully embarrassed by having pre-1st years and holding back in 8th grade and try to look their opponents in the eye knowing they have manipulated the system. Shame on the parents and the organization.

Love it. Even the mighty crush are fading with reality of reclass.

Not so fast, it was an overtime loss. Next meeting will reveal the true champion. Can't wait to watch live on tv!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Regardless of how/when he found it-he is right. My guess is a Maryland parent shared it with him as Crabs have embarrassed Maryland this weekend with blatant roster loading.

Easy to find the info. One player brought down to play 2020 with Crabs is listed in a private school 8th grade graduating class list and one forgot to change his recruiting profile page from 2019 to 2020 and is listed on another 8th grade private school graduating list. Not hard to find the info out there. Technically they are not 2020s yet as most of the 2020 teams are still in school attending 7th grade classes. Next year they can be fully embarrassed by having pre-1st years and holding back in 8th grade and try to look their opponents in the eye knowing they have manipulated the system. Shame on the parents and the organization.

So having many players that were held back early on your team like Crush has is ok, until they lose to team that has late hold backs on their team. Too funny!

The same kids rostered on Crush' 2020 team will be going to Denver as age appropriate. At least 8 of the kids who played for Crabs 2020 this weekend at Beach Lax do not make the generous age cut off. They are pre 1st holdbacks and 8th grade holdbacks. In fact, several of their regular 2020 NYPLL roster do not make he age cut off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Regardless of how/when he found it-he is right. My guess is a Maryland parent shared it with him as Crabs have embarrassed Maryland this weekend with blatant roster loading.

Easy to find the info. One player brought down to play 2020 with Crabs is listed in a private school 8th grade graduating class list and one forgot to change his recruiting profile page from 2019 to 2020 and is listed on another 8th grade private school graduating list. Not hard to find the info out there. Technically they are not 2020s yet as most of the 2020 teams are still in school attending 7th grade classes. Next year they can be fully embarrassed by having pre-1st years and holding back in 8th grade and try to look their opponents in the eye knowing they have manipulated the system. Shame on the parents and the organization.

So having many players that were held back early on your team like Crush has is ok, until they lose to team that has late hold backs on their team. Too funny!

The same kids rostered on Crush' 2020 team will be going to Denver as age appropriate. At least 8 of the kids who played for Crabs 2020 this weekend at Beach Lax do not make the generous age cut off. They are pre 1st holdbacks and 8th grade holdbacks. In fact, several of their regular 2020 NYPLL roster do not make he age cut off.

If you factor in that NY cut off is 12//1 you will find many holdbacks on LI teams actually qualify for appropriate grade level in PA and MD. These kids in LI would not and should not be considered holdbacks unless they fall outside of the other states with earlier cut off dates. Having an Oct or Nov birthday woukd actually still make a kid young compared to Crab rules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Regardless of how/when he found it-he is right. My guess is a Maryland parent shared it with him as Crabs have embarrassed Maryland this weekend with blatant roster loading.

Easy to find the info. One player brought down to play 2020 with Crabs is listed in a private school 8th grade graduating class list and one forgot to change his recruiting profile page from 2019 to 2020 and is listed on another 8th grade private school graduating list. Not hard to find the info out there. Technically they are not 2020s yet as most of the 2020 teams are still in school attending 7th grade classes. Next year they can be fully embarrassed by having pre-1st years and holding back in 8th grade and try to look their opponents in the eye knowing they have manipulated the system. Shame on the parents and the organization.

Love it. Even the mighty crush are fading with reality of reclass.

There is no reAlity of holdbacks except to the idiot parents allowing their children to learn that academics are secondary to sports. The parents who are working hard to build morals in their children are being undercut by parents willing to put sports in front of academics. The majority of these holdback kids had grades that were above average yet their parents justify having them repeat grades. No glory in those wins. No reality of real life either. As others have said, just sad for the child and the parents who can not see what message they are sending.

I know many are happy to see Crush lose. They have nothing to be ashamed of, and fought a great game that could have gone either way. The bigger issue here is the cheating. All of the great top LI teams that play fair will have to deal with this. It is time to demand age regulation. Teams like Crush can still be competitive with the cheating holdbacks, but what about some of the other very good teams. Just not a true competition for either team. If you chose to play up, that is one thing, otherwise, it is not in the spirit of fair competition.Sad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Regardless of how/when he found it-he is right. My guess is a Maryland parent shared it with him as Crabs have embarrassed Maryland this weekend with blatant roster loading.

Easy to find the info. One player brought down to play 2020 with Crabs is listed in a private school 8th grade graduating class list and one forgot to change his recruiting profile page from 2019 to 2020 and is listed on another 8th grade private school graduating list. Not hard to find the info out there. Technically they are not 2020s yet as most of the 2020 teams are still in school attending 7th grade classes. Next year they can be fully embarrassed by having pre-1st years and holding back in 8th grade and try to look their opponents in the eye knowing they have manipulated the system. Shame on the parents and the organization.

Love it. Even the mighty crush are fading with reality of reclass.

The reality is that even with players brought down from 2019, Crabs had to win in overtime to two age appropriate teams. Pretty embarrassing when they brought a whole crew of 6''1" 180 pounds kids in to join already older kids and then need OT to win against the average size 13 year olds on Breakers and Crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Regardless of how/when he found it-he is right. My guess is a Maryland parent shared it with him as Crabs have embarrassed Maryland this weekend with blatant roster loading.

Easy to find the info. One player brought down to play 2020 with Crabs is listed in a private school 8th grade graduating class list and one forgot to change his recruiting profile page from 2019 to 2020 and is listed on another 8th grade private school graduating list. Not hard to find the info out there. Technically they are not 2020s yet as most of the 2020 teams are still in school attending 7th grade classes. Next year they can be fully embarrassed by having pre-1st years and holding back in 8th grade and try to look their opponents in the eye knowing they have manipulated the system. Shame on the parents and the organization.

So having many players that were held back early on your team like Crush has is ok, until they lose to team that has late hold backs on their team. Too funny!

The same kids rostered on Crush' 2020 team will be going to Denver as age appropriate. At least 8 of the kids who played for Crabs 2020 this weekend at Beach Lax do not make the generous age cut off. They are pre 1st holdbacks and 8th grade holdbacks. In fact, several of their regular 2020 NYPLL roster do not make he age cut off.

You must have a tremendous amount of free time, and your detailed knowledge about these boys is borderline disturbing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

World Series has 5/1 cutoff. Should be 7/1 in my view, but at least they will enforce.

PS - Punched square in face, meaning in the front of the helmet? Or was this off the field with no helmet? Difference between out of game and out of tournament, in my view, although always depends on the circumstances. I've seen some pretty nice kids take baseball swings with their sticks at the opponents midriffs when then got frustrated and only get 3m non-releasable (a gift).

5/1 cutoff when New [lacrosse] has a 12/1 cutoff for 2020. Why call it a 2020 tournament when the cutoff date is more than half a year away from a primary state's cutoff?

lol, are you saying that since NY has a cutoff of 12/1 a tournament that invites a team from NY should go with that cutoff? You are funny! Most of the country have cutoffs of 9/1 and it is very common for boys with summer birthdays to start K when they just turned 6, instead of starting as a young 5 year old. NY is totally in the minority with the 12/1 cutoff

You're right, as the 91 team is the only N.Y. Team attending the point is moot. They have more than enough players born before 12/1/2001 to even the playing field.

This will be the ride they will be rolling on the next few years. Wait until you see what some of the upstate Ny teams are doing. Not exclusive to those out of Ny

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Regardless of how/when he found it-he is right. My guess is a Maryland parent shared it with him as Crabs have embarrassed Maryland this weekend with blatant roster loading.

Easy to find the info. One player brought down to play 2020 with Crabs is listed in a private school 8th grade graduating class list and one forgot to change his recruiting profile page from 2019 to 2020 and is listed on another 8th grade private school graduating list. Not hard to find the info out there. Technically they are not 2020s yet as most of the 2020 teams are still in school attending 7th grade classes. Next year they can be fully embarrassed by having pre-1st years and holding back in 8th grade and try to look their opponents in the eye knowing they have manipulated the system. Shame on the parents and the organization.

So having many players that were held back early on your team like Crush has is ok, until they lose to team that has late hold backs on their team. Too funny!

The same kids rostered on Crush' 2020 team will be going to Denver as age appropriate. At least 8 of the kids who played for Crabs 2020 this weekend at Beach Lax do not make the generous age cut off. They are pre 1st holdbacks and 8th grade holdbacks. In fact, several of their regular 2020 NYPLL roster do not make he age cut off.

You must have a tremendous amount of free time, and your detailed knowledge about these boys is borderline disturbing.

Nothing to be disturbed about. The Crabs parents made no secret of the fact and the Maryland kids all know each other, they know who belongs and who doesn't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I have a lot of respect for Crush and was suprised to see the score, given Crabs beat Breakers 6-5 after Crush beat Breakers 9-1.

JS just tweeted "Note to kid laxers if your a 2018 and play 2020 DONT post it on your Instagram. That would be cheating"

And I thought my little town had lax drama!

Did JS check what 2018 kids posted on Instagram from his car on the way home?

Regardless of how/when he found it-he is right. My guess is a Maryland parent shared it with him as Crabs have embarrassed Maryland this weekend with blatant roster loading.

Easy to find the info. One player brought down to play 2020 with Crabs is listed in a private school 8th grade graduating class list and one forgot to change his recruiting profile page from 2019 to 2020 and is listed on another 8th grade private school graduating list. Not hard to find the info out there. Technically they are not 2020s yet as most of the 2020 teams are still in school attending 7th grade classes. Next year they can be fully embarrassed by having pre-1st years and holding back in 8th grade and try to look their opponents in the eye knowing they have manipulated the system. Shame on the parents and the organization.

So having many players that were held back early on your team like Crush has is ok, until they lose to team that has late hold backs on their team. Too funny!

The same kids rostered on Crush' 2020 team will be going to Denver as age appropriate. At least 8 of the kids who played for Crabs 2020 this weekend at Beach Lax do not make the generous age cut off. They are pre 1st holdbacks and 8th grade holdbacks. In fact, several of their regular 2020 NYPLL roster do not make he age cut off.

You must have a tremendous amount of free time, and your detailed knowledge about these boys is borderline disturbing.

Do not need a load of time to figure out that these boys were rostered last week as 2019 and this week as 2020. Stop trying to deflect the issue that your team is openly putting boys 1-2 years older on the field and hiding behind a pre-1st and 8th grade repeat year that makes them "eligible". When they step on the same fields as boys that have been in the same school with them for years and are suddenly playing 7th grade when they graduated from 8th grade last week at said school it is pretty obvious. Respect needs to be earned and Crabs can fool themselves all they want but nobody has respect for them regardless of how many ships they take home if they have to cheat to do it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know many are happy to see Crush lose. They have nothing to be ashamed of, and fought a great game that could have gone either way. The bigger issue here is the cheating. All of the great top LI teams that play fair will have to deal with this. It is time to demand age regulation. Teams like Crush can still be competitive with the cheating holdbacks, but what about some of the other very good teams. Just not a true competition for either team. If you chose to play up, that is one thing, otherwise, it is not in the spirit of fair competition.Sad!

Please do not paint all of the Maryland teams with the Crabs brush. There are more teams that are age appropriate and enjoy good classy competition than there are teams that cheat to win. Unfortunately, the current #1 team in Maryland is generating the most noise. The legitimate teams in Maryland are not supportive of the Crab's model and we are also confident that most NY teams do not throw punches on the field and say profanities to their opponent while cross checking them. We are no fan of Crushes field tactics and behavior, but they should not have lost the Championship to a team that had boys who finished 8th grade last week. Aloha should be doing the right thing and awarding the Championship to Crush and disqualifying the Crabs.

As much as people dislike the crush 15-year-olds playing against 12 and 13-year-olds is not okay on any level. This time it's Crush next time maybe it's my sons team. God for bid a boy is injured due to this type of thing. Probably more depressing for the crabs is that a team of eighth and ninth graders age wise could only be a seventh grade team by one in overtime

Expreess 2020 had a reality check at Forsberg this weekend .. Played well but were beaten by 2019 teams . Hard to play up and compete

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know many are happy to see Crush lose. They have nothing to be ashamed of, and fought a great game that could have gone either way. The bigger issue here is the cheating. All of the great top LI teams that play fair will have to deal with this. It is time to demand age regulation. Teams like Crush can still be competitive with the cheating holdbacks, but what about some of the other very good teams. Just not a true competition for either team. If you chose to play up, that is one thing, otherwise, it is not in the spirit of fair competition.Sad!

Please do not paint all of the Maryland teams with the Crabs brush. There are more teams that are age appropriate and enjoy good classy competition than there are teams that cheat to win. Unfortunately, the current #1 team in Maryland is generating the most noise. The legitimate teams in Maryland are not supportive of the Crab's model and we are also confident that most NY teams do not throw punches on the field and say profanities to their opponent while cross checking them. We are no fan of Crushes field tactics and behavior, but they should not have lost the Championship to a team that had boys who finished 8th grade last week. Aloha should be doing the right thing and awarding the Championship to Crush and disqualifying the Crabs.

Did the Crabs play with the same team the entire tourney or did they bring in older players just for the finals? Surprised by the result since the Crabs didn't seem to roll through the earlier games against teams that the Crush beat easily.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As much as people dislike the crush 15-year-olds playing against 12 and 13-year-olds is not okay on any level. This time it's Crush next time maybe it's my sons team. God for bid a boy is injured due to this type of thing. Probably more depressing for the crabs is that a team of eighth and ninth graders age wise could only be a seventh grade team by one in overtime

Add to their embarrassment that the same team of 8th and 9th graders only won by 1 in OT against a no hold back Breakers and by two in regular play to an on age Next Level. The size difference alone in these games should have clued in Aloha. Crush should have been the overall winner despite their behavior in earlier games. Aloha seems to be afraid to ever do the right thing in these tourneys and will never ask a team like Crabs for their age cards as they fear the revenue loss. Those boys could not have produced a 7th grade report card unless it was dated May 2014 and do not understand that it is not okay. Enjoy your tainted trophy as you will never get what it means to feel the real joy in winning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expreess 2020 had a reality check at Forsberg this weekend .. Played well but were beaten by 2019 teams . Hard to play up and compete

This is the problem with lots of people, too many people are only worried about winning. Playing up and losing is often way better for a team than playing on grade and winning

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As much as people dislike the crush 15-year-olds playing against 12 and 13-year-olds is not okay on any level. This time it's Crush next time maybe it's my sons team. God for bid a boy is injured due to this type of thing. Probably more depressing for the crabs is that a team of eighth and ninth graders age wise could only be a seventh grade team by one in overtime

Add to their embarrassment that the same team of 8th and 9th graders only won by 1 in OT against a no hold back Breakers and by two in regular play to an on age Next Level. The size difference alone in these games should have clued in Aloha. Crush should have been the overall winner despite their behavior in earlier games. Aloha seems to be afraid to ever do the right thing in these tourneys and will never ask a team like Crabs for their age cards as they fear the revenue loss. Those boys could not have produced a 7th grade report card unless it was dated May 2014 and do not understand that it is not okay. Enjoy your tainted trophy as you will never get what it means to feel the real joy in winning.

Lets See:

The Crabs openly promote holdbacks.

They enter a tournament where eligibility is based upon graduation year.

The have kids that are being held back so they will graduate in 2020.

They enter the 2020 division.

Other teams choose not to play in the age based divisions of the same tournament but instead play in the graduation year based divisions of the same tournament despite knowing that the Crabs will be in the tournament.

The Crabs win and the other teams complain that the Crabs did what the Crabs have said they were going to do all along.

These same teams will clamor to be in other tournaments that the Crabs either promote or attend so they can say that they play the "best"

The parents of the other teams whine rather than take responsibility for their own actions.

The reality is that the Crab's actions are facilitated by a bunch of parents that want to focus on crowning some mythical middle school national club champion instead of focusing on making sure their sons are having fun and getting better. Frankly, I am more disturbed by all of the stories about the Crush kids who sit the bench in the tournaments than the stories about the Crabs playing older players

Put 3Village in your conversation for top 2020 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expreess 2020 had a reality check at Forsberg this weekend .. Played well but were beaten by 2019 teams . Hard to play up and compete

I wouldn't call it a reality check. Playing up is tough, and a bit scary given how mature 8th graders are compared to 7th graders - bigger, stronger, faster, overall better lacrosse players. I give them credit for playing 3 close games and they're a smallish team for their age anyway. No shame in losing to older teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put 3Village in your conversation for top 2020 teams.

No thank you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As much as people dislike the crush 15-year-olds playing against 12 and 13-year-olds is not okay on any level. This time it's Crush next time maybe it's my sons team. God for bid a boy is injured due to this type of thing. Probably more depressing for the crabs is that a team of eighth and ninth graders age wise could only be a seventh grade team by one in overtime

Add to their embarrassment that the same team of 8th and 9th graders only won by 1 in OT against a no hold back Breakers and by two in regular play to an on age Next Level. The size difference alone in these games should have clued in Aloha. Crush should have been the overall winner despite their behavior in earlier games. Aloha seems to be afraid to ever do the right thing in these tourneys and will never ask a team like Crabs for their age cards as they fear the revenue loss. Those boys could not have produced a 7th grade report card unless it was dated May 2014 and do not understand that it is not okay. Enjoy your tainted trophy as you will never get what it means to feel the real joy in winning.

Lets See:

The Crabs openly promote holdbacks.

They enter a tournament where eligibility is based upon graduation year.

The have kids that are being held back so they will graduate in 2020.

They enter the 2020 division.

Other teams choose not to play in the age based divisions of the same tournament but instead play in the graduation year based divisions of the same tournament despite knowing that the Crabs will be in the tournament.

The Crabs win and the other teams complain that the Crabs did what the Crabs have said they were going to do all along.

These same teams will clamor to be in other tournaments that the Crabs either promote or attend so they can say that they play the "best"

The parents of the other teams whine rather than take responsibility for their own actions.

The reality is that the Crab's actions are facilitated by a bunch of parents that want to focus on crowning some mythical middle school national club champion instead of focusing on making sure their sons are having fun and getting better. Frankly, I am more disturbed by all of the stories about the Crush kids who sit the bench in the tournaments than the stories about the Crabs playing older players

All true however, blatantly exploiting a flawed system to squeak out a win seems pretty pathetic. When your best isn't good enough you resort to tactics like this and everyone knows the truth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put 3Village in your conversation for top 2020 teams.

The problem with including town teams with travel teams is the overlap of players. For instance, Manhasset has an excellent town team but I think a lot of those players are Terps as well. Strictly for town teams in the 2020 year, I believe Three Village and Manhasset are the best I've seen while Rockville Center and Sachem are also pretty good. If anyone else wants to chime in on town teams they know or have seen, intelligent input would be welcome. But, to the original point, trying to rank town teams with travel teams does not make much sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expreess 2020 had a reality check at Forsberg this weekend .. Played well but were beaten by 2019 teams . Hard to play up and compete

I wouldn't call it a reality check. Playing up is tough, and a bit scary given how mature 8th graders are compared to 7th graders - bigger, stronger, faster, overall better lacrosse players. I give them credit for playing 3 close games and they're a smallish team for their age anyway. No shame in losing to older teams.

Agreed, great to challenge the team playing up, just don't act like a baby when you lose! At least the teams at Foresberg knew what they were getting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put 3Village in your conversation for top 2020 teams.

The problem with including town teams with travel teams is the overlap of players. For instance, Manhasset has an excellent town team but I think a lot of those players are Terps as well. Strictly for town teams in the 2020 year, I believe Three Village and Manhasset are the best I've seen while Rockville Center and Sachem are also pretty good. If anyone else wants to chime in on town teams they know or have seen, intelligent input would be welcome. But, to the original point, trying to rank town teams with travel teams does not make much sense.

very impressed with 3villages , sons team lost to them at jdrf and watched them play vipers yesterday talented team well coached

Get used to it Maryland has hold backs and you will see them for the rest of your sons lacrosse career.. Size matters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As much as people dislike the crush 15-year-olds playing against 12 and 13-year-olds is not okay on any level. This time it's Crush next time maybe it's my sons team. God for bid a boy is injured due to this type of thing. Probably more depressing for the crabs is that a team of eighth and ninth graders age wise could only be a seventh grade team by one in overtime

Add to their embarrassment that the same team of 8th and 9th graders only won by 1 in OT against a no hold back Breakers and by two in regular play to an on age Next Level. The size difference alone in these games should have clued in Aloha. Crush should have been the overall winner despite their behavior in earlier games. Aloha seems to be afraid to ever do the right thing in these tourneys and will never ask a team like Crabs for their age cards as they fear the revenue loss. Those boys could not have produced a 7th grade report card unless it was dated May 2014 and do not understand that it is not okay. Enjoy your tainted trophy as you will never get what it means to feel the real joy in winning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put 3Village in your conversation for top 2020 teams.

The problem with including town teams with travel teams is the overlap of players. For instance, Manhasset has an excellent town team but I think a lot of those players are Terps as well. Strictly for town teams in the 2020 year, I believe Three Village and Manhasset are the best I've seen while Rockville Center and Sachem are also pretty good. If anyone else wants to chime in on town teams they know or have seen, intelligent input would be welcome. But, to the original point, trying to rank town teams with travel teams does not make much sense.

Very true.....most of the towns are second teams for these kids.

Do any of these tournament directors have any responsibility to make sure whats advertised is what is on the field. We all sign wavers assuming that that your kid is playing someone who is somewhat close to his age. If you play 2020 we all know there may be a couple of kids who should probably be 2019 but are actually in the grade. Anyone who gets caught using a kid that is actually 2 grades higher should get some sort of punishment. Age checking every roster would be a nightmare but if the punishment for getting caught was bad enough I think it would take care of itself.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expreess 2020 had a reality check at Forsberg this weekend .. Played well but were beaten by 2019 teams . Hard to play up and compete

I wouldn't call it a reality check. Playing up is tough, and a bit scary given how mature 8th graders are compared to 7th graders - bigger, stronger, faster, overall better lacrosse players. I give them credit for playing 3 close games and they're a smallish team for their age anyway. No shame in losing to older teams.

Agreed, great to challenge the team playing up, just don't act like a baby when you lose! At least the teams at Foresberg knew what they were getting.

Did someone act like a baby? Parents or kids?

3V is a good team and perhaps getting better. Islip is good as well. SWR very good if the 5 or so studs played with the '20 group and not '19. Commack excellent as well. In Nassau there is Manhasset and CSH. Big drop after that. Maybe GC and Port next tier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As much as people dislike the crush 15-year-olds playing against 12 and 13-year-olds is not okay on any level. This time it's Crush next time maybe it's my sons team. God for bid a boy is injured due to this type of thing. Probably more depressing for the crabs is that a team of eighth and ninth graders age wise could only be a seventh grade team by one in overtime

Add to their embarrassment that the same team of 8th and 9th graders only won by 1 in OT against a no hold back Breakers and by two in regular play to an on age Next Level. The size difference alone in these games should have clued in Aloha. Crush should have been the overall winner despite their behavior in earlier games. Aloha seems to be afraid to ever do the right thing in these tourneys and will never ask a team like Crabs for their age cards as they fear the revenue loss. Those boys could not have produced a 7th grade report card unless it was dated May 2014 and do not understand that it is not okay. Enjoy your tainted trophy as you will never get what it means to feel the real joy in winning.

Lets See:

The Crabs openly promote holdbacks.

They enter a tournament where eligibility is based upon graduation year.

The have kids that are being held back so they will graduate in 2020.

They enter the 2020 division.

Other teams choose not to play in the age based divisions of the same tournament but instead play in the graduation year based divisions of the same tournament despite knowing that the Crabs will be in the tournament.

The Crabs win and the other teams complain that the Crabs did what the Crabs have said they were going to do all along.

These same teams will clamor to be in other tournaments that the Crabs either promote or attend so they can say that they play the "best"

The parents of the other teams whine rather than take responsibility for their own actions.

The reality is that the Crab's actions are facilitated by a bunch of parents that want to focus on crowning some mythical middle school national club champion instead of focusing on making sure their sons are having fun and getting better. Frankly, I am more disturbed by all of the stories about the Crush kids who sit the bench in the tournaments than the stories about the Crabs playing older players

Did the Crabs play with the same team the entire tourney or did they bring in older players just for the finals? Surprised by the result since the Crabs didn't seem to roll through the earlier games against teams that the Crush beat easily.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expreess 2020 had a reality check at Forsberg this weekend .. Played well but were beaten by 2019 teams . Hard to play up and compete

This is the problem with lots of people, too many people are only worried about winning. Playing up and losing is often way better for a team than playing on grade and winning

By "lots of people" do you mean Express itself? Why do you think they have championship photos splashed all over their own website? Give me a break with the "it's not about winning" routine....

RVC is very good in Nassau too, when their 91 and Express kids play at home. Massapequa would be good too if they changed name from True Blue to Massapequa. Its a very good grade year across LI.

The Crabs had a team in 2022, 21,20 but hmm no 2019 team. Miraculously the 2020 team had a dressed roster of 30 players. Different players played different games w many VLC 18,19 players present Our son plays on an older 91 team playing and the Crabs parents were nice as well as Very honest about how the team is mixed ages with many older.

Do u people really think The Crabs , a highly respected lacrosse club would cheat with older unrosted players ? Holdbacks or older end of 2020 yes , but so does a lot of teams now. They make em big down there. What can u do ? Maybe Crush should start looking for big strong athletes. They are out there but a lot of kids don't bother trying out because of the " it's impossible to make that team attitude ".

Not hearing much from those Viper folks about not playing in the "A" division of a tournament after squeaking out wins against "B" teams and losing to a very good but not travel 3 Villages town team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not hearing much from those Viper folks about not playing in the "A" division of a tournament after squeaking out wins against "B" teams and losing to a very good but not travel 3 Villages town team.

Looks like the results tell the story. Good b team aspiring to be A

"Do u people really think The Crabs , a highly respected lacrosse club would cheat with older unrosted players ?"

yes. from baltimore. was rooting for crabs until i found they were using kids they were in 8th grade this school year and repeating 8th. the kids had been playing 2019 this spring

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expreess 2020 had a reality check at Forsberg this weekend .. Played well but were beaten by 2019 teams . Hard to play up and compete

This is the problem with lots of people, too many people are only worried about winning. Playing up and losing is often way better for a team than playing on grade and winning

The "lots of people" clearly was NOT refereeing to Express. I am pretty sure if Express was just worried about winning, they would not be playing up. I would think, that their coaches wanted to challenge their players, maybe give their defense a good work out, which is why they chose to play up. I doubt that the original poster was from the Express camp either. I am pretty sure it was someone trying to stir the pot and point out that Express isn't that great because they lost to 2019 team. I personally think they should be congratulated for playing up and taking some lumps. In the long run, they will be better players because of it!!

By "lots of people" do you mean Express itself? Why do you think they have championship photos splashed all over their own website? Give me a break with the "it's not about winning" routine....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put 3Village in your conversation for top 2020 teams.

The problem with including town teams with travel teams is the overlap of players. For instance, Manhasset has an excellent town team but I think a lot of those players are Terps as well. Strictly for town teams in the 2020 year, I believe Three Village and Manhasset are the best I've seen while Rockville Center and Sachem are also pretty good. If anyone else wants to chime in on town teams they know or have seen, intelligent input would be welcome. But, to the original point, trying to rank town teams with travel teams does not make much sense.

Very true.....most of the towns are second teams for these kids.

3 Village has kept their top 2020 kids together. They don't play for outside travel teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not hearing much from those Viper folks about not playing in the "A" division of a tournament after squeaking out wins against "B" teams and losing to a very good but not travel 3 Villages town team.

Looks like the results tell the story. Good b team aspiring to be A

Great point, I just see it as all teams should be aspiring to be better!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not hearing much from those Viper folks about not playing in the "A" division of a tournament after squeaking out wins against "B" teams and losing to a very good but not travel 3 Villages town team.

Looking at the division it was as good as you want every tournament to be. 4 games determined by 8 goals. 3 goals the biggest margin.

Lets see how they do at Lax Fest. I seem to think that legacy team is pretty good as well. 3 games decided by 6 goals. See a trend many games decided by 2 goals with a tie mixed in there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expreess 2020 had a reality check at Forsberg this weekend .. Played well but were beaten by 2019 teams . Hard to play up and compete

This is the problem with lots of people, too many people are only worried about winning. Playing up and losing is often way better for a team than playing on grade and winning

The "lots of people" clearly was NOT refereeing to Express. I am pretty sure if Express was just worried about winning, they would not be playing up. I would think, that their coaches wanted to challenge their players, maybe give their defense a good work out, which is why they chose to play up. I doubt that the original poster was from the Express camp either. I am pretty sure it was someone trying to stir the pot and point out that Express isn't that great because they lost to 2019 team. I personally think they should be congratulated for playing up and taking some lumps. In the long run, they will be better players because of it!!

By "lots of people" do you mean Express itself? Why do you think they have championship photos splashed all over their own website? Give me a break with the "it's not about winning" routine....

I agree with you. Good for them for challenging themselves! But let's also keep it real. The Terps played up because they thought they could run the table and then brag that they won a tournament playing against 2019s. They want to win everytime they step on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Expreess 2020 had a reality check at Forsberg this weekend .. Played well but were beaten by 2019 teams . Hard to play up and compete

This is the problem with lots of people, too many people are only worried about winning. Playing up and losing is often way better for a team than playing on grade and winning

The "lots of people" clearly was NOT refereeing to Express. I am pretty sure if Express was just worried about winning, they would not be playing up. I would think, that their coaches wanted to challenge their players, maybe give their defense a good work out, which is why they chose to play up. I doubt that the original poster was from the Express camp either. I am pretty sure it was someone trying to stir the pot and point out that Express isn't that great because they lost to 2019 team. I personally think they should be congratulated for playing up and taking some lumps. In the long run, they will be better players because of it!!

By "lots of people" do you mean Express itself? Why do you think they have championship photos splashed all over their own website? Give me a break with the "it's not about winning" routine....

I agree with you. Good for them for challenging themselves! But let's also keep it real. The Terps played up because they thought they could run the table and then brag that they won a tournament playing against 2019s. They want to win everytime they step on the field.

I don't subscribe to that point of view. Hadnt the 2019 Express team entered that tournament at an age up and not won. It preps them for the upcoming summer.

Seriously kudos to express 2020 playing up yesterday. Excellent team who ran into two 2019 teams that were a little bigger and stronger. We only beat them by 3 but they could really play. Some serious skill and heart. Good luck rest of summer.

Rising sons is playing Outlaws Black this weekend. Interested to see the score of that game...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Put 3Village in your conversation for top 2020 teams.

They play against fl$ this Saturday

Massapequa and True Blue are not the same team. True Blue may be Massapequa based, but there are definitely a few very good players supplementing the 'Pequa core. Without those players Massapequa is not in the conversation--that being said they have definitely been brought in for town tournaments before...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can the Jesters compete with True Blue and fl$ ? Seems they did well this weekend at JDRF

Not even close. By request, they played in the bottom bracket of travel teams at JDRF.They played against the True Blue B team.Tomahawks, Be the best and the Hitmen would beat the Jesters this year.

By request says who?

Jesters are in the B division of Forsberg this weekend. That puts them with Legacy Ravage, Express 3 and some decent town teams among others. If anyone really thinks Jesters are on par with True Blue and fl$ then they will absolutely demolish their competition this weekend. When they don't (and they likely won't), you'll have your answer from results on the field instead of from postings on a message board.

Jesters went 1-2 in the B bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising sons is playing Outlaws Black this weekend. Interested to see the score of that game...

Where is that being played?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can the Jesters compete with True Blue and fl$ ? Seems they did well this weekend at JDRF

Not even close. By request, they played in the bottom bracket of travel teams at JDRF.They played against the True Blue B team.Tomahawks, Be the best and the Hitmen would beat the Jesters this year.

By request says who?

Jesters are in the B division of Forsberg this weekend. That puts them with Legacy Ravage, Express 3 and some decent town teams among others. If anyone really thinks Jesters are on par with True Blue and fl$ then they will absolutely demolish their competition this weekend. When they don't (and they likely won't), you'll have your answer from results on the field instead of from postings on a message board.

Jesters went 1-2 in the B bracket.

Express went 0 and 3

BTB went 1 1 1

Outlaws are playing Rising Sons in Monmouth NJ. That would probably be the championship game too

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Outlaws are playing Rising Sons in Monmouth NJ. That would probably be the championship game too

Are Outlaws supplementing the team with assorted 2019s? Sons are like their buddies from MD and cannot resist the holdbacks.

Sons beat them 15-2 at NXT last year.

You have no clue about the Outlaws 2020 team if you think they have hodbacks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You have no clue about the Outlaws 2020 team if you think they have hodbacks

Re-read the post. Sons have the holdbacks....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons beat them 15-2 at NXT last year.

Sons lost to Legacy by 1 and Terps by 2 in April so they are still an excellent team. Since the Outlaws can't beat the B teams of either Legacy or Express much less compete with their A teams, this game against the Sons likely is going to be another blowout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising sons is playing Outlaws Black this weekend. Interested to see the score of that game...

As in you are interested to see how much Sons win by?!? Sons compete with the Crushes, Terps and Legacys of this age...the Outlaws will be nothing more than a speed bump on their way to the semifinals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After this weekend we've really got a good idea where teams line up. Here they are:
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
True Blue Blue
Viper
fl$
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
NYC
Team 91 Orangemen
Jesters

fl$ tournament this weekend has True Blue, fl$, Express 2, Legacy Ravage, Orangemen and Jesters so at last there will be lots of games to see how these teams stack up. Garden City and Three Village are also in the bracket so it will be interesting to see how those town teams stack up. I think True Blue should win based on how their results at JDRF but who would play them for the title looks to be a giant toss up.

Will the Sons still cheat and bring 2019's?

Long island laxfest next will show that a couple of these teams do not belong on the list.

I see Express, Legacy and 91 are all at the fl$ tournament this weekend. Which specific teams are these?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After this weekend we've really got a good idea where teams line up. Here they are:
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
True Blue Blue
Viper
fl$
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
NYC
Team 91 Orangemen
Jesters

fl$ tournament this weekend has True Blue, fl$, Express 2, Legacy Ravage, Orangemen and Jesters so at last there will be lots of games to see how these teams stack up. Garden City and Three Village are also in the bracket so it will be interesting to see how those town teams stack up. I think True Blue should win based on how their results at JDRF but who would play them for the title looks to be a giant toss up.

fl$ will win their own tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long island laxfest next will show that a couple of these teams do not belong on the list.

Will be tough to rank as some are in A bracket and some in B. Hard to make comparisons. 3V playing in B but beat Viper who is playing in A for laxfest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long island laxfest next will show that a couple of these teams do not belong on the list.

Express will probably win the Laxfest A bracket. Its great that fl$,TB,Igloo and Vipers entered the A bracket to challenge themselves.

where is Viper this weekend, how come not at the fl$ tourney? Would be nice to have another good team going.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After this weekend we've really got a good idea where teams line up. Here they are:
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
True Blue Blue
Viper
fl$
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
NYC
Team 91 Orangemen
Jesters

fl$ tournament this weekend has True Blue, fl$, Express 2, Legacy Ravage, Orangemen and Jesters so at last there will be lots of games to see how these teams stack up. Garden City and Three Village are also in the bracket so it will be interesting to see how those town teams stack up. I think True Blue should win based on how their results at JDRF but who would play them for the title looks to be a giant toss up.

Not sure Forsberg showed anything other than Three Village should be on list. As to the rest at Forsberg, Ravage showed they can only play with Taz players, TLI decided to play like it was practice, using everyone evenly, and Viper had fanatics on sidelines, some of whom clearly can't recognize a zone defense.

It's all too early to tell, or care that much. Good luck to all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long island laxfest next will show that a couple of these teams do not belong on the list.

Will be tough to rank as some are in A bracket and some in B. Hard to make comparisons. 3V playing in B but beat Viper who is playing in A for laxfest.

3 Village typically enters A brackets.
Good for the Vipers going into A.

True Blue just lost to fl$ two weeks ago, but I guess we'll see in two weeks...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After this weekend we've really got a good idea where teams line up. Here they are:
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
True Blue Blue
Viper
fl$
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
NYC
Team 91 Orangemen
Jesters

fl$ tournament this weekend has True Blue, fl$, Express 2, Legacy Ravage, Orangemen and Jesters so at last there will be lots of games to see how these teams stack up. Garden City and Three Village are also in the bracket so it will be interesting to see how those town teams stack up. I think True Blue should win based on how their results at JDRF but who would play them for the title looks to be a giant toss up.

The fl$ touney brackets are certainly not even. Legacy's B team has an easy path on Saturday.
The other brackets have some challenging match ups.

The Rising Sons have 1 hold back. I believe he was just picked up at the end of Spring. Any team that competes with Long Island those parents cry hold backs. Crabs is another story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where is Viper this weekend, how come not at the fl$ tourney? Would be nice to have another good team going.

Lehigh

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long island laxfest next will show that a couple of these teams do not belong on the list.

Express will probably win the Laxfest A bracket. Its great that fl$,TB,Igloo and Vipers entered the A bracket to challenge themselves.

You forgot to mention Legacy Taz. This is going to be a great tournament. Best guess for semifinals is that Terps will play True Blue as North 1st place against South 2nd Place and that Legacy Tax will play Igloo as South 1st place against North 2nd place. Terps/Legacy final would be great game and put the winner firmly as #2 team on Long Island behind the Crush. Great to see teams finally meeting on the field instead of just as opinions on message boards!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After this weekend we've really got a good idea where teams line up. Here they are:
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
True Blue Blue
Viper
fl$
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
NYC
Team 91 Orangemen
Jesters

fl$ tournament this weekend has True Blue, fl$, Express 2, Legacy Ravage, Orangemen and Jesters so at last there will be lots of games to see how these teams stack up. Garden City and Three Village are also in the bracket so it will be interesting to see how those town teams stack up. I think True Blue should win based on how their results at JDRF but who would play them for the title looks to be a giant toss up.

The fl$ touney brackets are certainly not even. Legacy's B team has an easy path on Saturday.
The other brackets have some challenging match ups.

Garden City is supposed to be a very good town team so I wouldn't hand that division to Ravage just yet. It would seem fl$ and Three Village should be 1-2 in Pool 1, True Blue and Express 2 should be 1-2 in Pool 2, and Ravage and Garden City should be 1-2 in Pool 3 so they don't appear too uneven.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After this weekend we've really got a good idea where teams line up. Here they are:
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
True Blue Blue
Viper
fl$
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
NYC
Team 91 Orangemen
Jesters

fl$ tournament this weekend has True Blue, fl$, Express 2, Legacy Ravage, Orangemen and Jesters so at last there will be lots of games to see how these teams stack up. Garden City and Three Village are also in the bracket so it will be interesting to see how those town teams stack up. I think True Blue should win based on how their results at JDRF but who would play them for the title looks to be a giant toss up.

The fl$ touney brackets are certainly not even. Legacy's B team has an easy path on Saturday.
The other brackets have some challenging match ups.

Garden City is supposed to be a very good town team so I wouldn't hand that division to Ravage just yet. It would seem fl$ and Three Village should be 1-2 in Pool 1, True Blue and Express 2 should be 1-2 in Pool 2, and Ravage and Garden City should be 1-2 in Pool 3 so they don't appear too uneven.

GC is not a very good town team. Patriot from Jersey is good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After this weekend we've really got a good idea where teams line up. Here they are:
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
True Blue Blue
Viper
fl$
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
NYC
Team 91 Orangemen
Jesters

fl$ tournament this weekend has True Blue, fl$, Express 2, Legacy Ravage, Orangemen and Jesters so at last there will be lots of games to see how these teams stack up. Garden City and Three Village are also in the bracket so it will be interesting to see how those town teams stack up. I think True Blue should win based on how their results at JDRF but who would play them for the title looks to be a giant toss up.

The fl$ touney brackets are certainly not even. Legacy's B team has an easy path on Saturday.
The other brackets have some challenging match ups.

Garden City is supposed to be a very good town team so I wouldn't hand that division to Ravage just yet. It would seem fl$ and Three Village should be 1-2 in Pool 1, True Blue and Express 2 should be 1-2 in Pool 2, and Ravage and Garden City should be 1-2 in Pool 3 so they don't appear too uneven.

Where do the Tomahawks fit in this conversation?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long island laxfest next will show that a couple of these teams do not belong on the list.

Express will probably win the Laxfest A bracket. Its great that fl$,TB,Igloo and Vipers entered the A bracket to challenge themselves.

You forgot to mention Legacy Taz. This is going to be a great tournament. Best guess for semifinals is that Terps will play True Blue as North 1st place against South 2nd Place and that Legacy Tax will play Igloo as South 1st place against North 2nd place. Terps/Legacy final would be great game and put the winner firmly as #2 team on Long Island behind the Crush. Great to see teams finally meeting on the field instead of just as opinions on message boards!

You are dismissing all the non-L.I. teams in the A bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After this weekend we've really got a good idea where teams line up. Here they are:
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
True Blue Blue
Viper
fl$
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
NYC
Team 91 Orangemen
Jesters

fl$ tournament this weekend has True Blue, fl$, Express 2, Legacy Ravage, Orangemen and Jesters so at last there will be lots of games to see how these teams stack up. Garden City and Three Village are also in the bracket so it will be interesting to see how those town teams stack up. I think True Blue should win based on how their results at JDRF but who would play them for the title looks to be a giant toss up.

The fl$ touney brackets are certainly not even. Legacy's B team has an easy path on Saturday.
The other brackets have some challenging match ups.

Garden City is supposed to be a very good town team so I wouldn't hand that division to Ravage just yet. It would seem fl$ and Three Village should be 1-2 in Pool 1, True Blue and Express 2 should be 1-2 in Pool 2, and Ravage and Garden City should be 1-2 in Pool 3 so they don't appear too uneven.

Where do the Tomahawks fit in this conversation?

They are in the B bracket at Laxfest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long island laxfest next will show that a couple of these teams do not belong on the list.

Express will probably win the Laxfest A bracket. Its great that fl$,TB,Igloo and Vipers entered the A bracket to challenge themselves.

You forgot to mention Legacy Taz. This is going to be a great tournament. Best guess for semifinals is that Terps will play True Blue as North 1st place against South 2nd Place and that Legacy Tax will play Igloo as South 1st place against North 2nd place. Terps/Legacy final would be great game and put the winner firmly as #2 team on Long Island behind the Crush. Great to see teams finally meeting on the field instead of just as opinions on message boards!

You are dismissing all the non-L.I. teams in the A bracket.

Generally have heard about the truly top teams from off LI and have never heard of Eclipse or Team SuperStar and remember Prime Time as finishing middle of the pack at a tournament last year so yes, I have dismissed the non LI teams. Do you know any of these teams and have any game results that would say how good they are?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After this weekend we've really got a good idea where teams line up. Here they are:
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
True Blue Blue
Viper
fl$
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
NYC
Team 91 Orangemen
Jesters

fl$ tournament this weekend has True Blue, fl$, Express 2, Legacy Ravage, Orangemen and Jesters so at last there will be lots of games to see how these teams stack up. Garden City and Three Village are also in the bracket so it will be interesting to see how those town teams stack up. I think True Blue should win based on how their results at JDRF but who would play them for the title looks to be a giant toss up.

The fl$ touney brackets are certainly not even. Legacy's B team has an easy path on Saturday.
The other brackets have some challenging match ups.

Garden City is supposed to be a very good town team so I wouldn't hand that division to Ravage just yet. It would seem fl$ and Three Village should be 1-2 in Pool 1, True Blue and Express 2 should be 1-2 in Pool 2, and Ravage and Garden City should be 1-2 in Pool 3 so they don't appear too uneven.

What's your scouting report on True Illonois?

True Blue...funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long island laxfest next will show that a couple of these teams do not belong on the list.

Express will probably win the Laxfest A bracket. Its great that fl$,TB,Igloo and Vipers entered the A bracket to challenge themselves.

You forgot to mention Legacy Taz. This is going to be a great tournament. Best guess for semifinals is that Terps will play True Blue as North 1st place against South 2nd Place and that Legacy Tax will play Igloo as South 1st place against North 2nd place. Terps/Legacy final would be great game and put the winner firmly as #2 team on Long Island behind the Crush. Great to see teams finally meeting on the field instead of just as opinions on message boards!

You are dismissing all the non-L.I. teams in the A bracket.

Eclipse has qualified for World Series in Colorado. Heard Legacy tried to get in but was denied. Guess this is their chance to show they belonged in Colorado. Too bad Crush is playing up at Lax Fest. If they were in this division, it would be every top team on LI plus the best team from Connecticut!

The bracket states that the North 1st place plays the North 2nd place and the South 1st place plays the South 2nd place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Long island laxfest next will show that a couple of these teams do not belong on the list.

Express will probably win the Laxfest A bracket. Its great that fl$,TB,Igloo and Vipers entered the A bracket to challenge themselves.

You forgot to mention Legacy Taz. This is going to be a great tournament. Best guess for semifinals is that Terps will play True Blue as North 1st place against South 2nd Place and that Legacy Tax will play Igloo as South 1st place against North 2nd place. Terps/Legacy final would be great game and put the winner firmly as #2 team on Long Island behind the Crush. Great to see teams finally meeting on the field instead of just as opinions on message boards!

You are dismissing all the non-L.I. teams in the A bracket.

Generally have heard about the truly top teams from off LI and have never heard of Eclipse or Team SuperStar and remember Prime Time as finishing middle of the pack at a tournament last year so yes, I have dismissed the non LI teams. Do you know any of these teams and have any game results that would say how good they are?

Eclipse is very good. Make a Wish in the other bracket struggled in the Maverik touney last year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bracket states that the North 1st place plays the North 2nd place and the South 1st place plays the South 2nd place.

The other way makes better sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The bracket states that the North 1st place plays the North 2nd place and the South 1st place plays the South 2nd place.

You are absolutely right. It is a moronic way of doing things by the organizers and I did not read it close enough. Really is incredibly stupid to have 2 teams that already played face off again in the semifinals instead of crossing the brackets. If any of the organizers of the tournament are reading this, I'd love to know why you do it this way. Thanks.

Does anybody know anything about this True Illinois team playing in the fl$ trny this weekend ? Probably a reach for any info. All I can see is they are a team made up of kids from all over Illinois.

who cares they will suck. What are you worried they are good and your team is going to struggle. go to bed

No one is talking about All Greys... we have a solid team that can play with anyone.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one is talking about All Greys... we have a solid team that can play with anyone.

Then why are you entered in the B bracket of Laxfest?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who cares they will suck. What are you worried they are good and your team is going to struggle. go to bed

After all these years you have to realize that you play who is on the schedule. Will it matter if you heard that Team XYZ is really good? Just play the game and find out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one is talking about All Greys... we have a solid team that can play with anyone.

Since you are a new team who has done nothing worth talking about, let's say you win the B flight at LaxFest first and then we'll agree with your assertion that you are a solid team who deserves to be in the discussion of the best dozen or so teams in this age group.

You are jealous . Teams should be afraid to play all greys... we will scrimmage any of your teams. You then will be disappointed. Hands down we walk through the lax fest bracket. Come watch and see....

Awesome All greys! Good luck. Hope to see you in the final. Congrats.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are jealous . Teams should be afraid to play all greys... we will scrimmage any of your teams. You then will be disappointed. Hands down we walk through the lax fest bracket. Come watch and see....

Awesome, I love to watch new teams emerge. Good luck.

Terps and Crush are playing in the National Lacrosse Federation tournament in Philly this weekend. Along with Dukes, Express North, Primetime, Eclipse, Laxachussets and West Coast Starz.

I highly doubt this is an all greys parent or coach saying this. at least I hope its not. But funny how easily it is to get you all worked up with a simple post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are jealous . Teams should be afraid to play all greys... we will scrimmage any of your teams. You then will be disappointed. Hands down we walk through the lax fest bracket. Come watch and see....

And if you don't you look like a horses you know what

Why should they ... the team is full of kids that couldn't make the second team of any organization

Stay classy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anybody know anything about this True Illinois team playing in the fl$ trny this weekend ? Probably a reach for any info. All I can see is they are a team made up of kids from all over Illinois.

If history repeats itself, they will be big, strong, fast, and OLDER... Buckle in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where is Viper this weekend, how come not at the fl$ tourney? Would be nice to have another good team going.

Lehigh

It's strange that they would go in the B bracket in the Lehigh tournament and go in the A at Laxfest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where is Viper this weekend, how come not at the fl$ tourney? Would be nice to have another good team going.

Lehigh

It's strange that they would go in the B bracket in the Lehigh tournament and go in the A at Laxfest.

Were put in wrong bracket at Lehigh and couldn't change once schedule was released.

Any news about the Outlaws player that had to leave in an ambulance. Not sure it was heat related or concussion. Prayers with the player.

Looks like a town team beat all of the club teams at The Summer Clash in Albany.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

where is Viper this weekend, how come not at the fl$ tourney? Would be nice to have another good team going.

Lehigh

It's strange that they would go in the B bracket in the Lehigh tournament and go in the A at Laxfest.

Were put in wrong bracket at Lehigh and couldn't change once schedule was released.

Seems as if they are always "put in the wrong division "

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like a town team beat all of the club teams at The Summer Clash in Albany.

What town?

How did the Outlaws do against the Sons?

Congratulations to Crush for winning in Philly. Congratulations to Express for making it to the championship. There were some very good teams there and both played up. Go LI!

7-1 Sons

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to Crush for winning in Philly. Congratulations to Express for making it to the championship. There were some very good teams there and both played up. Go LI!

It was a good comeback for express after losing 2 games last week..Playing the competition last week helped to get them ready

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to Crush for winning in Philly. Congratulations to Express for making it to the championship. There were some very good teams there and both played up. Go LI!

It was a good comeback for express after losing 2 games last week..Playing the competition last week helped to get them ready

I do not think they played up- they were in the 7th grade bracket. Yes, there were tough teams there and both had a great showing. Nice job LI 2020 boys!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like a town team beat all of the club teams at The Summer Clash in Albany.

What town?

West Islip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After this weekend we've really got a good idea where teams line up. Here they are:
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
True Blue Blue
Viper
fl$
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage
NYC
Team 91 Orangemen
Jesters

fl$ tournament this weekend has True Blue, fl$, Express 2, Legacy Ravage, Orangemen and Jesters so at last there will be lots of games to see how these teams stack up. Garden City and Three Village are also in the bracket so it will be interesting to see how those town teams stack up. I think True Blue should win based on how their results at JDRF but who would play them for the title looks to be a giant toss up.

You were off target with your prediction.

fl$ lost in championship to tough Patriot team 9 to5. Beat True Blue and 3 Villages pretty handily.

Could someone please give rankings of every single team on LI.

Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
fl$
True Blue
Viper
Legacy Ravage
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
TLI
NYC
Empire Green
E3
Jesters
Tomahawks
Recon A
Be The Best
Team 91 Orangemen
All Greys
Express Team 3
Outlaws Silver
LI Hitmen
Recon B
LI Generals

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
fl$
True Blue
Viper
Legacy Ravage
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
TLI
NYC
Empire Green
E3
Jesters
Tomahawks
Recon A
Be The Best
Team 91 Orangemen
All Greys
Express Team 3
Outlaws Silver
LI Hitmen
Recon B
LI Generals

Before anyone freaks out please understand that the above ranking was made by an anonymous poster with zero credentials. if they would like to publish their background and position in the lacrosse community we will give them their due credit.
This shanty list is by no means accurate or an endorsement by BOTC or any reputable organization.

FIRE AWAY!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ lost in championship to tough Patriot team 9 to5. Beat True Blue and 3 Villages pretty handily.

This is the beauty of tournaments actually posting scores. fl$ did lose in the finals to Patriot 9-4. They did beat 3 Village 3-1 (not exactly handily) and True Blue 10-6. They also lost to True Illinois 8-7 and 3 Village beat True Illinois twice. They are a good team and right in the mix of top teams below Crush, Terps and Legacy with Express 2, True Blue and Igloo but they certainly did not demonstrate superiority over those teams off this tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
fl$
True Blue
Viper
Legacy Ravage
Igloo
Express Team 2
Outlaws Black
TLI
NYC
Empire Green
E3
Jesters
Tomahawks
Recon A
Be The Best
Team 91 Orangemen
All Greys
Express Team 3
Outlaws Silver
LI Hitmen
Recon B
LI Generals

That 4th spot is always the guesswork. fl$, Igloo, True Blue and Vipers are all in the A bracket of Lax Fest so we will have some basis for comparison. In Vipers case, nice to see them finally put in the "right" bracket after 3 tournaments of being "misplaced" into B brackets. Based on the fl$ tournament this past weekend, fl$, True Blue and Express Team 2 can all beat or lose to each other on any given day. Legacy Ravage lost to True Blue and then to Jesters so putting them ahead of Igloo and Express 2 seems too high. The B bracket at LaxFest has many of the other teams on this list so reshuffling after this weekend is likely in order.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rising sons is playing Outlaws Black this weekend. Interested to see the score of that game...

As in you are interested to see how much Sons win by?!? Sons compete with the Crushes, Terps and Legacys of this age...the Outlaws will be nothing more than a speed bump on their way to the semifinals.

Did the Sons leave tire marks as they rolled over the Outlaws 10-1 on their way to the title?!?

I think its clear fl$ is better than True BLue as they beat them twice already this season by 4 goals each time. Igloo and Viper are unknowns relative to each other so there will be further data points after this weekend. Igloo And fl$ meet Saturday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think its clear fl$ is better than True BLue as they beat them twice already this season by 4 goals each time. Igloo and Viper are unknowns relative to each other so there will be further data points after this weekend. Igloo And fl$ meet Saturday.

Igloo beat Viper in a pre season scrimmage. I would give them the edge.

Tough weekend for Team 91 Orangemen at fl$. They won just one game all weekend...and that was by a one goal margin. They lost everything else, were roughed up badly in several games and also had a loss to a mediocre town team.

91 lost every game this weekend. Need a lot of work. Last game of the tournament was a loss to a solid GC town team.

Igloo had a nice weekend in Maryland. 91 B team is in a rebuilding stage as is express 2. they will both be fine, most of their kids from the last couple years are with Igloo and Legacy now.

How did the top 3 do this weekend in their tournaments? 91, Terps and Legacy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 lost every game this weekend. Need a lot of work. Last game of the tournament was a loss to a solid GC town team.

GC is not a solid town team.

Great weekend for Igloo down in MD. Won the B Bracket. Big step up in comp this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 lost every game this weekend. Need a lot of work. Last game of the tournament was a loss to a solid GC town team.

How about actually looking at the tournament schedule before coming on here and spouting your supposed "facts"? 91's last game was against the Hitmen and they won 5-4. They did not play either town team (Garden City or 3 Village) in the tournament. That said, they did struggle and need work but they are essentially a brand new team. They are truly rebuilding. The idiot who posted Express 2 is also rebuilding might want to look at the results as Express 2 beat True Blue and 3 Village (both good wins) and only lost to the eventual champions Patriot Lacrosse. Express 2 is far from a rebuilding project.

the rebuilding comment about Express 2 is because there are a lot of new kids on that team (more than half), clearly Express coaches are better at rebuilding than 91's. don't be upset, take your meds and relax. thanks.

91's last game i believe was against GC not the Hitmen. It is incorrect on tourney machine. i do not know the outcome of that game . BTB played the Hitmen last game.

I did look at the schedule and I am not spouting. It is a fact that 91 did not play the Hitmen in the last game of the day. They played GC and lost by 3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the rebuilding comment about Express 2 is because there are a lot of new kids on that team (more than half), clearly Express coaches are better at rebuilding than 91's. don't be upset, take your meds and relax. thanks.

I think fl$ and Express 2 are probably about the same.

The Sons might be a good team, but that is why they have about 6 eighth graders come and play with them every weekend. These kids are too big to be in 7th grade. Same with the Crabs. Every time an LI club plays them it even says 2019 on their shorts!

Rebuilding is a loose term used for not sure what you have, express and 91 have a lot of turnover at this age for their second teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Sons might be a good team, but that is why they have about 6 eighth graders come and play with them every weekend. These kids are too big to be in 7th grade. Same with the Crabs. Every time an LI club plays them it even says 2019 on their shorts!

This is not true, they have one reclassed boy and he just joined the team this summer. He is not even close to being the biggest on the team. There are plenty of big 12-13 year olds out there, just because your team doesn't have them doesn't mean they don't exist. You will see when the Sons show up in Denver with their complete roster. Not so sure about some of the other teams though

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Sons might be a good team, but that is why they have about 6 eighth graders come and play with them every weekend. These kids are too big to be in 7th grade. Same with the Crabs. Every time an LI club plays them it even says 2019 on their shorts!

This is not true, they have one reclassed boy and he just joined the team this summer. He is not even close to being the biggest on the team. There are plenty of big 12-13 year olds out there, just because your team doesn't have them doesn't mean they don't exist. You will see when the Sons show up in Denver with their complete roster. Not so sure about some of the other teams though

Didn't the cheating sons 2021 team get caught cheating recently?

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Please explain how that is possible with birth certificates and report card required?

It was outlaws goalie that went down. He has a concussion, but it's minor and hopes to be back in a couple of weeks. Thanks for your concern

So Crush is playing up at LaxFest 2019. I thought you had to play your age unless they do have older kids.

LaxFest schedule has Terps playing 4 games on Saturday with the first being at 3:08 and the last being against Igloo at 7:26. Not sure how schedule gets made but being the only team out of 10 that plays 4 times in one day doesn't seem fair. I believe the Terps are good enough to win anyway but that doesn't make it right.

You do not have to have older kids to play up. They won this weekend handily against Top clubs in 2020 and are challenging themselves. If they win they win if not they improve by playing tougher competition. They actually have a tough draw, but like that they put themselves out there. Don't think they will win

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You do not have to have older kids to play up. They won this weekend handily against Top clubs in 2020 and are challenging themselves. If they win they win if not they improve by playing tougher competition. They actually have a tough draw, but like that they put themselves out there. Don't think they will win

Congrats to Team 91 Crush. They won this weekend using a full team effort, balanced scoring, unselfish play, and demonstrated ability to "pull away" after some close first halfs with strong competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Please explain how that is possible with birth certificates and report card required?

Anything is possible without picture ID that is checked against roster like soccer does. I have never seen any tournament actually check that roster matches what was submitted. Anyone can show up and nobody would know unless they recognize the kid. This includes tournaments. Yes they ask for birth certificates, but nobody checks that roster matches.

Viper coach have any say in what bracket they play in? Seems like they are all over the place. They have a decent squad no? Cant be much of a challenge playing these b tournaments.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LaxFest schedule has Terps playing 4 games on Saturday with the first being at 3:08 and the last being against Igloo at 7:26. Not sure how schedule gets made but being the only team out of 10 that plays 4 times in one day doesn't seem fair. I believe the Terps are good enough to win anyway but that doesn't make it right.

Thanks for the post. You are officially on the record in case Terps lose a game. Gold job counselor!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Please explain how that is possible with birth certificates and report card required?

Anything is possible without picture ID that is checked against roster like soccer does. I have never seen any tournament actually check that roster matches what was submitted. Anyone can show up and nobody would know unless they recognize the kid. This includes tournaments. Yes they ask for birth certificates, but nobody checks that roster matches.

They asked for a profile for each kid too- height, weight, accomplishments, favorite athlete, school of choice etc. That'd be real interesting to see one kids name with another profile if they don't bring actual age appropriate kids. If you make it to the championship- it will be televised. I have no doubt that someone will rat out a cheater if they see a player that does not fit in the guidelines. Keep it real- play an honest game, for the kids and future of youth lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Please explain how that is possible with birth certificates and report card required?

Anything is possible without picture ID that is checked against roster like soccer does. I have never seen any tournament actually check that roster matches what was submitted. Anyone can show up and nobody would know unless they recognize the kid. This includes tournaments. Yes they ask for birth certificates, but nobody checks that roster matches.

They asked for a profile for each kid too- height, weight, accomplishments, favorite athlete, school of choice etc. That'd be real interesting to see one kids name with another profile if they don't bring actual age appropriate kids. If you make it to the championship- it will be televised. I have no doubt that someone will rat out a cheater if they see a player that does not fit in the guidelines. Keep it real- play an honest game, for the kids and future of youth lacrosse.

You guys are rediculous, my son is one of the very biggest kids on the Rising Sons 2020 team and his birthday is 1/1/02. And, he has a passport which he will have with him. I will be happy to show it to you. I don't know why you have such a hard time believing a child can be big but still be the correct age. During basketball season a player he plays against it 6'5" (and I am going to guess he weighs way over 200)because he dwarfs my son who is 5'10" and 190 lbs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Please explain how that is possible with birth certificates and report card required?

Anything is possible without picture ID that is checked against roster like soccer does. I have never seen any tournament actually check that roster matches what was submitted. Anyone can show up and nobody would know unless they recognize the kid. This includes tournaments. Yes they ask for birth certificates, but nobody checks that roster matches.

They asked for a profile for each kid too- height, weight, accomplishments, favorite athlete, school of choice etc. That'd be real interesting to see one kids name with another profile if they don't bring actual age appropriate kids. If you make it to the championship- it will be televised. I have no doubt that someone will rat out a cheater if they see a player that does not fit in the guidelines. Keep it real- play an honest game, for the kids and future of youth lacrosse.

You guys are rediculous, my son is one of the very biggest kids on the Rising Sons 2020 team and his birthday is 1/1/02. And, he has a passport which he will have with him. I will be happy to show it to you. I don't know why you have such a hard time believing a child can be big but still be the correct age. During basketball season a player he plays against it 6'5" (and I am going to guess he weighs way over 200)because he dwarfs my son who is 5'10" and 190 lbs.

There will always be a kid or two that is taller/bigger. When the WHOLE team is like that, you have to wonder!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Please explain how that is possible with birth certificates and report card required?

Anything is possible without picture ID that is checked against roster like soccer does. I have never seen any tournament actually check that roster matches what was submitted. Anyone can show up and nobody would know unless they recognize the kid. This includes tournaments. Yes they ask for birth certificates, but nobody checks that roster matches.

They asked for a profile for each kid too- height, weight, accomplishments, favorite athlete, school of choice etc. That'd be real interesting to see one kids name with another profile if they don't bring actual age appropriate kids. If you make it to the championship- it will be televised. I have no doubt that someone will rat out a cheater if they see a player that does not fit in the guidelines. Keep it real- play an honest game, for the kids and future of youth lacrosse.

You guys are rediculous, my son is one of the very biggest kids on the Rising Sons 2020 team and his birthday is 1/1/02. And, he has a passport which he will have with him. I will be happy to show it to you. I don't know why you have such a hard time believing a child can be big but still be the correct age. During basketball season a player he plays against it 6'5" (and I am going to guess he weighs way over 200)because he dwarfs my son who is 5'10" and 190 lbs.

It would be great to have a program for each tournament that lists the kids' name, jersey number and date of birth. there would be no issues then.

In youth hockey, each kid needs to register with USA Hockey and you are issued an id number and you're covered under their insurance policy. There are huge kids on the ice but you take comfort in knowing that they are age appropriate and born within a specific calendar year. The lack of regs for youth lacrosse is the issue, and it makes zero sense to have someone born in 2001 playing against kids born in 2002 while they're this young. Once you get into HS all bets are off, but at the youth level it's illogical to not have birth date cut offs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Please explain how that is possible with birth certificates and report card required?

Anything is possible without picture ID that is checked against roster like soccer does. I have never seen any tournament actually check that roster matches what was submitted. Anyone can show up and nobody would know unless they recognize the kid. This includes tournaments. Yes they ask for birth certificates, but nobody checks that roster matches.

They asked for a profile for each kid too- height, weight, accomplishments, favorite athlete, school of choice etc. That'd be real interesting to see one kids name with another profile if they don't bring actual age appropriate kids. If you make it to the championship- it will be televised. I have no doubt that someone will rat out a cheater if they see a player that does not fit in the guidelines. Keep it real- play an honest game, for the kids and future of youth lacrosse.

You guys are rediculous, my son is one of the very biggest kids on the Rising Sons 2020 team and his birthday is 1/1/02. And, he has a passport which he will have with him. I will be happy to show it to you. I don't know why you have such a hard time believing a child can be big but still be the correct age. During basketball season a player he plays against it 6'5" (and I am going to guess he weighs way over 200)because he dwarfs my son who is 5'10" and 190 lbs.

And, I forgot to mention, the 6'5" boy is a few weeks younger than my son, so he was born in 2002 also!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Please explain how that is possible with birth certificates and report card required?

Anything is possible without picture ID that is checked against roster like soccer does. I have never seen any tournament actually check that roster matches what was submitted. Anyone can show up and nobody would know unless they recognize the kid. This includes tournaments. Yes they ask for birth certificates, but nobody checks that roster matches.

They asked for a profile for each kid too- height, weight, accomplishments, favorite athlete, school of choice etc. That'd be real interesting to see one kids name with another profile if they don't bring actual age appropriate kids. If you make it to the championship- it will be televised. I have no doubt that someone will rat out a cheater if they see a player that does not fit in the guidelines. Keep it real- play an honest game, for the kids and future of youth lacrosse.

You guys are rediculous, my son is one of the very biggest kids on the Rising Sons 2020 team and his birthday is 1/1/02. And, he has a passport which he will have with him. I will be happy to show it to you. I don't know why you have such a hard time believing a child can be big but still be the correct age. During basketball season a player he plays against it 6'5" (and I am going to guess he weighs way over 200)because he dwarfs my son who is 5'10" and 190 lbs.

And, I forgot to mention, the 6'5" boy is a few weeks younger than my son, so he was born in 2002 also!

Setting the cheating up aren't you

You also forgot to mention hat your organization was caught cheating with age issues

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Please explain how that is possible with birth certificates and report card required?

Anything is possible without picture ID that is checked against roster like soccer does. I have never seen any tournament actually check that roster matches what was submitted. Anyone can show up and nobody would know unless they recognize the kid. This includes tournaments. Yes they ask for birth certificates, but nobody checks that roster matches.

They asked for a profile for each kid too- height, weight, accomplishments, favorite athlete, school of choice etc. That'd be real interesting to see one kids name with another profile if they don't bring actual age appropriate kids. If you make it to the championship- it will be televised. I have no doubt that someone will rat out a cheater if they see a player that does not fit in the guidelines. Keep it real- play an honest game, for the kids and future of youth lacrosse.

You guys are rediculous, my son is one of the very biggest kids on the Rising Sons 2020 team and his birthday is 1/1/02. And, he has a passport which he will have with him. I will be happy to show it to you. I don't know why you have such a hard time believing a child can be big but still be the correct age. During basketball season a player he plays against it 6'5" (and I am going to guess he weighs way over 200)because he dwarfs my son who is 5'10" and 190 lbs.

And, I forgot to mention, the 6'5" boy is a few weeks younger than my son, so he was born in 2002 also!

Who cares! What does that even have to do with anything, we all know there are some kids bigger than others!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Please explain how that is possible with birth certificates and report card required?

Anything is possible without picture ID that is checked against roster like soccer does. I have never seen any tournament actually check that roster matches what was submitted. Anyone can show up and nobody would know unless they recognize the kid. This includes tournaments. Yes they ask for birth certificates, but nobody checks that roster matches.

They asked for a profile for each kid too- height, weight, accomplishments, favorite athlete, school of choice etc. That'd be real interesting to see one kids name with another profile if they don't bring actual age appropriate kids. If you make it to the championship- it will be televised. I have no doubt that someone will rat out a cheater if they see a player that does not fit in the guidelines. Keep it real- play an honest game, for the kids and future of youth lacrosse.

You guys are rediculous, my son is one of the very biggest kids on the Rising Sons 2020 team and his birthday is 1/1/02. And, he has a passport which he will have with him. I will be happy to show it to you. I don't know why you have such a hard time believing a child can be big but still be the correct age. During basketball season a player he plays against it 6'5" (and I am going to guess he weighs way over 200)because he dwarfs my son who is 5'10" and 190 lbs.

And, I forgot to mention, the 6'5" boy is a few weeks younger than my son, so he was born in 2002 also!

Hmmm, you say your son is 1/1/02? And the 6'5" kid is born a few weeks before your son? And is still a 2002? Make sure you get to math extra help.

^^

that's not what the poster was saying, the other kid is "younger" - that means he was born after the 6' 5" kid. Reading comprehension not your strong suit.

He said "a few weeks younger", not before. This would give him mid-Jan 2002 birth date.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes and apparently are bringing illegals to Denver w their 20's

Please explain how that is possible with birth certificates and report card required?

Anything is possible without picture ID that is checked against roster like soccer does. I have never seen any tournament actually check that roster matches what was submitted. Anyone can show up and nobody would know unless they recognize the kid. This includes tournaments. Yes they ask for birth certificates, but nobody checks that roster matches.

They asked for a profile for each kid too- height, weight, accomplishments, favorite athlete, school of choice etc. That'd be real interesting to see one kids name with another profile if they don't bring actual age appropriate kids. If you make it to the championship- it will be televised. I have no doubt that someone will rat out a cheater if they see a player that does not fit in the guidelines. Keep it real- play an honest game, for the kids and future of youth lacrosse.

We all have heard the issues from Little Baseball cheater will cheat regardless if televised. And jealous folk will rat them out not for honor of the game but to humiliate!

Maybe everyone is inherently evil!

DB, she said younger not older maybe you should get extra English help.

What respect we are getting, you already have the Sons in the Championship on TV. NICE

Yes, the 6'5" inch boys is YOUNGER than my son. My son was born on 1/1/02 and he was born AFTER that, I can't remember if he was born in January or February. But I remember being shocked when his mom told be how old he was. Her GIANT is younger than my BIG boy. Not sure why you think I need math help, it is I who is questioning the quality of your schooling. You guys are hysterical, the whole point of, just because a team has big kids it doesn't mean they are cheating has been lost on you SMH

Originally Posted by Anonymous

^^

that's not what the poster was saying, the other kid is "younger" - that means he was born after the 6' 5" kid. Reading comprehension not your strong suit.

I said that my son was born on 1/1/02 and the 6'5" boy is younger than him. Younger means he was born AFTER my son. I can't remember if he was born in January or February of 2002, but I remember being surprised when he mom told me that he was younger than my son. Thanks for pointing out that I need math help, but I will pass. I am however, questioning the education you have had. Clearly, you have missed my point, which was just because a team has "big" players it doesn't mean they are cheating. Clearly, you can say anything you want on this site, but just because you say it doesn't mean it is true!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

^^

that's not what the poster was saying, the other kid is "younger" - that means he was born after the 6' 5" kid. Reading comprehension not your strong suit.

I said that my son was born on 1/1/02 and the 6'5" boy is younger than him. Younger means he was born AFTER my son. I can't remember if he was born in January or February of 2002, but I remember being surprised when he mom told me that he was younger than my son. Thanks for pointing out that I need math help, but I will pass. I am however, questioning the education you have had. Clearly, you have missed my point, which was just because a team has "big" players it doesn't mean they are cheating. Clearly, you can say anything you want on this site, but just because you say it doesn't mean it is true!

I am not the poster you are arguing with. Just a parent making observation having gone through this a couple of times. Yes, at this age there will be a COUPLE of kids bigger, starting puberty sooner, big parents, etc. But when basically the WHOLE team appears this way, there is something else going on, and we all know what it is! US Lacross will put an end to all this nonsense soon!

The whole team is not that big. I've seen them play. Crush has bigger kids than Sons.

Looks like we have the 4th best team in this age group, Viper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like we have the 4th best team in this age group, Viper.

Lets not get crazy yet

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looks like we have the 4th best team in this age group, Viper.

Because they beat True Blue?

They lost by two to legacy Taz

Maybe wait until the season is over before ranking the teams.

What about fl$ ? They were definitely in tougher bracket and went 2 and 1.

Viper parent here - proud of our boys, obviously disappointed that the weather has canceled today's games. After winning the B bracket last year at Laxfest and winning the B bracket at Lehigh last week, it was great to do well yesterday in the A bracket. I don't agree with the above post that Viper is definatevly the 4th best team at this age group. What I would say is that teams 4 through 8 could beat each other on any given day. Great lacrosse yesterday - showed off the strength of the entire 2020 field of teams.

I saw fl$ play and they looked very good

You didn't see them play express I am guessing. Express handled them quite easily and could have had a lot more goals if not for the sloppy footing. Express coaches also pulled their guns back to not run up the score. so who did you see them play? igloo, nice win but igloo team is sruggling, they are not a team to mention yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe wait until the season is over before ranking the teams.

That's a good idea. However, taking stock in season to date, looks like Taz and Terps were set collide this week. Too bad it didn't happen. Viper won a B bracket last week in Lehigh, but played no one. TLI won an A bracket at Laxapolooza last week, but played no one. Three Village did well at Forsberg, but was in B bracket this week. True Blue may not be the team they were last year, but there is still time. So far all we know is Crush, Terps and Taz on top. Hope someone in tier two can knock one of the big three off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe wait until the season is over before ranking the teams.

That's a good idea. However, taking stock in season to date, looks like Taz and Terps were set collide this week. Too bad it didn't happen. Viper won a B bracket last week in Lehigh, but played no one. TLI won an A bracket at Laxapolooza last week, but played no one. Three Village did well at Forsberg, but was in B bracket this week. True Blue may not be the team they were last year, but there is still time. So far all we know is Crush, Terps and Taz on top. Hope someone in tier two can knock one of the big three off.

All good points

IMHO Terps would beat TAZ by 6-8 goals. TAZ is a good team but they cant handle the terps speed.

Give me a break.....Terps definitely won handily. However they had their face off kid take ever one and they were ripping shots to the very end. They certainly didn't go up big early and then just play catch. As for the footing, pretty sure both teams had to deal with that.

So I'm guessing that the Terps could handle the Crush based on their speed? Ok not sure if the Crush and Terps would beat everyone by 6-8-10 goals like years ago. Only time will tell - one thing for sure is that they are the top 2 Long Island 2020 teams until someone knocks them off

I agree , Crush is on its own level, Terps and Taz would be a great game.
True Blue ,fl$, Igloo and Viper could probaby all beat each other on any given day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You didn't see them play express I am guessing. Express handled them quite easily and could have had a lot more goals if not for the sloppy footing. Express coaches also pulled their guns back to not run up the score. so who did you see them play? igloo, nice win but igloo team is sruggling, they are not a team to mention yet.

Terps won. The rest of your post is inaccurate.

i would put

Anyone know who is in Best of the Best?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You didn't see them play express I am guessing. Express handled them quite easily and could have had a lot more goals if not for the sloppy footing. Express coaches also pulled their guns back to not run up the score. so who did you see them play? igloo, nice win but igloo team is sruggling, they are not a team to mention yet.

Terps won. The rest of your post is inaccurate.

Terps won by a lot, game was never close, it was a classic blowout.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Give me a break.....Terps definitely won handily. However they had their face off kid take ever one and they were ripping shots to the very end. They certainly didn't go up big early and then just play catch. As for the footing, pretty sure both teams had to deal with that.

The went up big early, and late, fl$ has lots of work to do if they want to compete at the AA level

Originally Posted by Anonymous

IMHO Terps would beat TAZ by 6-8 goals. TAZ is a good team but they cant handle the terps speed.

Not worth commenting on hypothetical games, Terps had a great day, beat the competition easily, TAZ (I hate that name, very lame) had trouble with a B level team in Vipers, winning by only two. Until TAZ beats a legit team they should just SHHHHHHH

What team is your son on that you would comment that Taz had problems with "B" level teams? I guess you arent that familiar with the 2020 Long Island teams.

You need to have the ball in their end to complain about footing, pretty sure the terps d was not tested one ounce in that game. fl$ and others are on level with express 2 not express 1.

Crush beat terps by 8 last weekend. Also terps would beat Taz by same margin. Taz struggled w Viper. Don't need to know anymore. After all TaZ is really just 91 titanium "B" they looked ehhh Saturday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beat terps by 8 last weekend. Also terps would beat Taz by same margin. Taz struggled w Viper. Don't need to know anymore. After all TaZ is really just 91 titanium "B" they looked ehhh Saturday

Score was 11-4 last weekend

TAZ is a very good team. May be a little below Terps. However, they are definitely top 3 on the island and top 5 to 7 in nation. Solid group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TAZ is a very good team. May be a little below Terps. However, they are definitely top 3 on the island and top 5 to 7 in nation. Solid group.

Top 5 to 7 in the Nation. How would you know that? Have you played all 2020 teams in the USA. Keep dreaming!

Taz was up by 6 goals against vipers than the coach took the foot off the pedal and made it a close game. Vipers wouldn't stand a chance if Taz put the pedal to the medal. Don't kid yourself!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Taz was up by 6 goals against vipers than the coach took the foot off the pedal and made it a close game. Vipers wouldn't stand a chance if Taz put the pedal to the medal. Don't kid yourself!!

You aren't making any sense. Who are you directing this to? The Vipers aren't talking smack and you are saying that the Taz coach purposely had the team not score and let Viper come back to within two goals in the biggest tournament on the island? Or is it that the Viper faceoff won 5 in a row against the Taz fogo and they scored on the fast break to make it close and that scares you because as the post above says Taz is one of the top 7 teams in the country. Taz is a very good team but don't make lame excuses because a team plays you to a close score.

According to previous posts. fl$ had beaten True Blue twice and had beaten Igloo. So that leaves them only really to play Viper doesn't it to give them that coveted 4th ranked spiot (lol) you people are talking about. EOnly fact is that the Crush and Terps are the top of 2020 on Long Island.

Does anyone know if that Eclipse team that lost to both True Blue and Viper is the one going to the World Series in Denver as one of the supposedly top 10 teams in the country?!? If it is, pathetic job by that committee that picked the teams since this makes it obvious at least one more LI team should have been included besides the Crush!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to previous posts. fl$ had beaten True Blue twice and had beaten Igloo. So that leaves them only really to play Viper doesn't it to give them that coveted 4th ranked spiot (lol) you people are talking about. EOnly fact is that the Crush and Terps are the top of 2020 on Long Island.

Can those 4 teams get together for a one day round robin? Call it 4 for 4th. Have the parents chip in for refs and pizza afterwards and have each team play each other in a 4 team bracket. best record wins. Settle this debate once and for all and the kids would have fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

According to previous posts. fl$ had beaten True Blue twice and had beaten Igloo. So that leaves them only really to play Viper doesn't it to give them that coveted 4th ranked spiot (lol) you people are talking about. EOnly fact is that the Crush and Terps are the top of 2020 on Long Island.

And fl$ lost at their tournament to True Illinois who lost twice in that tournament to Three Village who got knocked out in the quarterfinals of that tournament by Express 2. Just illustrating that fl$, True Blue, Vipers, Express 2 and Igloo all seem to be able to beat each other on any given day so picking out one and saying this is the top of the group of A teams (leaving Crush, Terps and Taz as AA teams) isn't supported by any game results yet.

top 5 to 7 in the nation.. not even close. there are 4-5 teams in Maryland who would walk all over TAZ.

So if the Taz team would have kept the starters in and rolled off a 18-2 score would the same people be commenting on how classless they are?
From my conversations with those present the starters were pulled at the halfway point.
I guess your damned if you do the right thing and damned if you don't.
I can see why many teams just keep scoring and keep pressuring.
Outcome may be different the next time they play I suppose.

This is a funny reply...has to be from a True Blue fan...they have been beaten by Viper and fl$ pretty handily....let the boys play, who cares who is 4th ?

Annapolis Hawks beat TAZ by a few goals last weekend.

When did it stop being ok just to win the game? What is all this hot air from teams (first Terps now Taz) about how they could have run the score up even more if they wanted to? Really classless banter from parents who probably don't have the athleticism to run 1/2 a block.

Why not just leave it at crush is the best on LI. Don't put Express in the same sentence.

Originally Posted by The Hop

So if the Taz team would have kept the starters in and rolled off a 18-2 score would the same people be commenting on how classless they are?
From my conversations with those present the starters were pulled at the halfway point.
I guess your damned if you do the right thing and damned if you don't.
I can see why many teams just keep scoring and keep pressuring.
Outcome may be different the next time they play I suppose.

And Hop, LaxFest rules use goals against (not differential) to allow the coaches to be good sports and ideally not run up the scores. But as they say the best defense is a good offense. So you can't win I guess.

Top 10 2020 teams are all solid :
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
fl$
Igloo
Viper
Express Wolverines
True Blue Blue
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 10 2020 teams are all solid :
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
fl$
Igloo
Viper
Express Wolverines
True Blue Blue
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage

Top 3 yes. The rest is all up for grabs. I'm not going to go tit for tat but the bottom of that list is questionable...and it's convenient for you to leave other teams off the list. For starters, Outlaws Black...nothing against them...but couldn't even field a 2020 team for Forsberg and Ravage couldn't either from the Taz helmets playing for them as well at Forsberg. If you look up Ravage's team page they don't even list any tournaments for summer anymore and their coach on site was listed as TBD...so I would ease up on the speculation lower on the list. It's clear their are wannabes trying to secure a place on the list. IMHO

You could be right about 9 & 10 - who would you put there?

Terps and Crush have been doing it for years NOT so fast to annoint Taz into the class with Terps definetely not Crush

that bottom 5 is average at best. strong B teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that bottom 5 is average at best. strong B teams

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that bottom 5 is average at best. strong B teams

Would love to have seen you as a 7th grade athlete. My guess is commentary would have been "below average at best" - hence the need to put down a bunch of good 7th grade lacrosse KIDS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that bottom 5 is average at best. strong B teams

I am not sure if this comment is or is not necessary. I know it was meant as a dig but it does bring to light other things.

If you want to have parity, so you don't complain about running up scores and such then you need to take an honest look at teams and call the teams as you see them.

That being said there is no shame being on a strong B team. You are playing and unless you dream of starting on your HS or Catholic school team as a Sophomore then keep working at it. you are in a great year to set some goals and make them achievable.

It is very hard to beat hard work and a good work ethic and a sense of "team".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that bottom 5 is average at best. strong B teams

truth hurts ?

I think we've all seen that teams 4 through 10 can beat each other on any given day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that bottom 5 is average at best. strong B teams

Why is average an insult?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that bottom 5 is average at best. strong B teams

Why is average an insult?

The quote was "average at best", which is an insult

Originally Posted by Anonymous

that bottom 5 is average at best. strong B teams

truth hurts ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 10 2020 teams are all solid :
Crush
Terps
Legacy Taz
fl$
Igloo
Viper
Express Wolverines
True Blue Blue
Outlaws Black
Legacy Ravage

Still to early to say where the teams stack up, but you can't ignore three village and TLI. Especially where Outlaws declared their team a B team and Ravage doesn't seem to exist. Even then, 4-10 is a crap shoot currently.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]that bottom 5 is average at best. strong B teams

Your a funny guy! Ranking 12 yr old kids is ridiculous and when told the teams they pay upwards of 2 grand or more all in for, are only a b to b+ level truth hurts . Take the pain

Thank God my son doesn't play for a C team. That would be really disappointing. Wait, can someone make a list of 10-15 or the C teams so I can feel good and dump on them knowing that my team falls between 5-10. Please make the list, I can't wait! Thank you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]that bottom 5 is average at best. strong B teams

truth hurts ? [/quote

just look over on the right for a list >>>

or not, the list is gone!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or not, the list is gone!

what is this referring to?

Yeah all the club team listings have disappeared? Odd

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or not, the list is gone!

what is this referring to?

The list that every team wants to be on.

Hello mr. Moderator, can you please tell me where I can find the team listings that are usually on the right side of the home page ? Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

or not, the list is gone!

what is this referring to?

The teams have always been listed on the right hand lower side of web page with links to the team websites- it's now missing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hello mr. Moderator, can you please tell me where I can find the team listings that are usually on the right side of the home page ? Thanks

Hi, this is Ms Moderator and they are no longer listed. You will need to go to your age threads.

Ok so I'm on this age thread and I don't see the teams listed. Am I missing something ?

Now that's funny . Express Terps are playing up. So now what is your rebuttal Lame Legacy Parent

Terps should play up they are one of the best teams in the 20220 age group in country..the post was referring to their Express 2020 2 team whose schedule for this weekends trny is comical !!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Terps should play up they are one of the best teams in the 20220 age group in country..the post was referring to their Express 2020 2 team whose schedule for this weekends trny is comical !!!!!

no one is playing anyone, didn't everyone read the weather policy???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Terps should play up they are one of the best teams in the 20220 age group in country..the post was referring to their Express 2020 2 team whose schedule for this weekends trny is comical !!!!!

no one is playing anyone, didn't everyone read the weather policy???

Playing up is stupid. Especially at the age when puberty kicks in. B level players who are a year older destroy younger players physically. One of the key reasons Crabs, etc. win so much.

Not sure what is ironic about a schedule being redone since 2 teams (Empire and Bulldog) dropped to the lower flight. Additionally, this tournament has 2 four team playoff brackets, one for the top 4 and one for the bottom 4 so if Legacy and Express 2 are in the same bracket, there is a very good chance they will play. Given these facts, would you mind posting exactly what you think is ironic?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Terps should play up they are one of the best teams in the 20220 age group in country..the post was referring to their Express 2020 2 team whose schedule for this weekends trny is comical !!!!!

no one is playing anyone, didn't everyone read the weather policy???

Playing up is stupid. Especially at the age when puberty kicks in. B level players who are a year older destroy younger players physically. One of the key reasons Crabs, etc. win so much.

Terps are looking for a competitive spot. Generally they will win their own age bracket fairly easily so they play up. And yes, older teams are likely physically stronger but if the younger players are capable of playing smart, fast and quick, and do so then they will be just fine.

Pretty clear : Outlaws Black, Primetime and Leading Edge....hmm seems like clear path to 1 seed doesn't it....No Legacy, Laxachusetts or even fl$.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty clear : Outlaws Black, Primetime and Leading Edge....hmm seems like clear path to 1 seed doesn't it....No Legacy, Laxachusetts or even fl$.

And then there are playoffs so they would need to beat 2 of the top teams to claim the title. By the way, Leading Edge is one of the 10 teams chosen to be in the World Series of Youth Lacrosse in Denver July 4 so might not be quite as easy as you think.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Terps should play up they are one of the best teams in the 20220 age group in country..the post was referring to their Express 2020 2 team whose schedule for this weekends trny is comical !!!!!

no one is playing anyone, didn't everyone read the weather policy???

Playing up is stupid. Especially at the age when puberty kicks in. B level players who are a year older destroy younger players physically. One of the key reasons Crabs, etc. win so much.

Terps are looking for a competitive spot. Generally they will win their own age bracket fairly easily so they play up. And yes, older teams are likely physically stronger but if the younger players are capable of playing smart, fast and quick, and do so then they will be just fine.

True that!

Good Luck to all the teams heaing to the World Series of Youth Lacrosse this week in Denver. Should be an incredible experience for the families attending.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Pretty clear : Outlaws Black, Primetime and Leading Edge....hmm seems like clear path to 1 seed doesn't it....No Legacy, Laxachusetts or even fl$.

And this is why they actually play the games...Legacy over Laxachusetts for the title, Leading Edge edging out PrimeTime in 3rd place game and fl$ and Express 2 tied in the 5th place game. Nice job by all the teams and the tournament organizers who got the games in despite the weather. A separate question, what are the age group rules in Massachusetts as this Laxachusetts team was huge. I believe they were older but still going to graduate in 2020 so within the rules but man, were those kids big!

Very well put !!! Watched Legacy play Laxachusetts and lose earlier in 9 to 8 and than come back and win by a lot. Really fun to watch Legacy come back and win against an extremely big Laxachusetts team. fl$ beat Prime Time last week by 4 goals and Igloo than had tough weekend losing to Legacy by 6 and Leading Edge by 3 and tying Express 2 with many chances to win. Express 2 after getting beat by 9 by Leading Edge bounced back to tie Primetime and fl$. Just proves the point that these are kids we are talking about and anybody can beat and anytime. Many kudos to the tournament for getting the games in with inclement weather in a very well run weekend of Lacrosse.

I had a chance to watch the Legacy vs Laxachusetts final over the weekend. It was a great game and I was impressed with the level of play.
Something that was obvious was the size difference of the players with the Boston group being much larger.

Also as a bystander I overheard several parents from Laxachusetts talk about how several of their players are playing down. Match those comments with the several equipment bags in their group having 2019 printed on them and you can certainly draw a not so shining conclusion on the sportsmanship of this club.

Regardless the Legacy team was victorious in the championship despite the size and maturity difference. Well Done Legacy!

Originally Posted by The Hop

I had a chance to watch the Legacy vs Laxachusetts final over the weekend. It was a great game and I was impressed with the level of play.
Something that was obvious was the size difference of the players with the Boston group being much larger.

Also as a bystander I overheard several parents from Laxachusetts talk about how several of their players are playing down. Match those comments with the several equipment bags in their group having 2019 printed on them and you can certainly draw a not so shining conclusion on the sportsmanship of this club.

Regardless the Legacy team was victorious in the championship despite the size and maturity difference. Well Done Legacy!

There are a number of kids on that 2020 Laxachusetts team that played for the 2019 team last year. Surprisingly, they aren't the biggest kids on that squad. My friend's son is on one of the 2020 teams (not black) and he pointed out the former 2019 players to me. That's not to say that some of those big kids weren't early holdbacks...would be great to institute an age cut off once and for all! FYI, there's also a 16 year old on their 2019 black team!

On Laxachusettes there are a number of kids who have repeated grades throughout the program. They also cast a very wide net. ALL the good players within an hour ride of them want to play on that team. IF LI had 1 team instead of studs spread out across 8 teams our elite team would likely look physically much bigger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On Laxachusettes there are a number of kids who have repeated grades throughout the program. They also cast a very wide net. ALL the good players within an hour ride of them want to play on that team. IF LI had 1 team instead of studs spread out across 8 teams our elite team would likely look physically much bigger.

If there are 2019 kids on their 2020 team
how does your post addresses that?

I guess they rpt'd 7th grade? I'm from LI but someone from within their program told me that. And I agree with you that its wrong and that ALL tournaments up until "Varsity" should be aged based with 9/1 cutoff.

FCA 2020 will have an awesome team next year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2020 will have an awesome team next year

Why? Are you expecting holdbacks? Sad if true since your mission seems to imply fairness

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FCA 2020 will have an awesome team next year

Why? Are you expecting holdbacks? Sad if true since your mission seems to imply fairness

The 2020 age group is getting to that age where everyone moves around and I've heard some good players are going to FCA

I think the missing team list is because of restructuring. Some of the links were defunct.

i want to know how leading edge and laxachusettes gets invited to world lacrosse games and legacy does not. just this year legacy has beaten crabs, looneys, rising sons, leading edge, laxachusettes, florida extreme and west coast stars.something does not sound right

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i want to know how leading edge and laxachusettes gets invited to world lacrosse games and legacy does not. just this year legacy has beaten crabs, looneys, rising sons, leading edge, laxachusettes, florida extreme and west coast stars.something does not sound right

Other teams were invited and declined due to logistics or inability to meet the age cutoff, could have been the case here.

Hopefully we can all pull for crush to bring it home and represent LI. Should be a great experience for all the kids on and off the field that they will never forget. Good luck boys.

Because Legacy has been around five minutes and has no reputation. Let's all remember it's really 91B titanium regardless of what TZ sells us, virtually every kid was cut from express or 91. They will improve but that's the reason

Md parent. Pulling for crush as well.

Remember it's not where you start but where you finish. Whoever you are you have no clue of what this team is comprised of. 91 and express are going to be very surprised this tryout season who legacy gets from them. TZ is building something good and getting better and better. Crush will win that tournament with ease no worries.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i want to know how leading edge and laxachusettes gets invited to world lacrosse games and legacy does not. just this year legacy has beaten crabs, looneys, rising sons, leading edge, laxachusettes, florida extreme and west coast stars.something does not sound right

First, Laxachusetts was not invited and based on everything said about that club, they likely could not have made the age cutoff for some if not most of their players.
Second, they picked 10 teams from 9 different states to try and create as much national interest as possible. The only state with 2 teams is Colorado which, of course, guarantees local coverage and attendance since the games are in Denver. They weren't interested in the 10 best teams, just the best team from a state (except CO) and unfortunately for Terps and Legacy, the best team in New [lacrosse] is the Crush. Look at the team list if you don't believe me. New Jersey, Maryland, Connecticut, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Texas, New [lacrosse] and Colorado are represented. They are more interested in the business of the tournament than truly finding the best team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i want to know how leading edge and laxachusettes gets invited to world lacrosse games and legacy does not. just this year legacy has beaten crabs, looneys, rising sons, leading edge, laxachusettes, florida extreme and west coast stars.something does not sound right

First, Laxachusetts was not invited and based on everything said about that club, they likely could not have made the age cutoff for some if not most of their players.
Second, they picked 10 teams from 9 different states to try and create as much national interest as possible. The only state with 2 teams is Colorado which, of course, guarantees local coverage and attendance since the games are in Denver. They weren't interested in the 10 best teams, just the best team from a state (except CO) and unfortunately for Terps and Legacy, the best team in New [lacrosse] is the Crush. Look at the team list if you don't believe me. New Jersey, Maryland, Connecticut, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Texas, New [lacrosse] and Colorado are represented. They are more interested in the business of the tournament than truly finding the best team.

This is exactly how they selected. The team representing Connecticut lost to both True Blue and Viper at Laxfest

Thank you for that information. Now it makes total sense!!! It's nice to hear someone talk without using sarcasm or being condescending. Thank you!!!

So really crush is just going to have a cake walk!!! There is nobody that is going to beat them from those states. My prediction crush vs Maryland team in championship and when Maryland has to play with correct age kids THEY ARE GOING TO BE CRUSHED!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So really crush is just going to have a cake walk!!! There is nobody that is going to beat them from those states. My prediction crush vs Maryland team in championship and when Maryland has to play with correct age kids THEY ARE GOING TO BE CRUSHED!!!!!!!

Correct, and that team is the team that cheated to beat them at beachlax so I'm sure there will be no mercy.

-A Maryland dad

Crush up 22-0 at half against C2C.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully we can all pull for crush to bring it home and represent LI. Should be a great experience for all the kids on and off the field that they will never forget. Good luck boys.

I really hope crabs makes it to the final with crush because I would love to see crabs get smoked on national tv. I'm from MD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush up 22-0 at half against C2C.

Eased off the gas in the 2nd, won 30-0.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush up 22-0 at half against C2C.

Eased off the gas in the 2nd, won 30-0.

Glad I went to Denver to see that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush up 22-0 at half against C2C.

Eased off the gas in the 2nd, won 30-0.

Shame on the organizers for picking teams that didn't belong instead of truly trying to find the best 10...so what if 8 or 9 would have been from the Northeast/MidAtlantic?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush up 22-0 at half against C2C.

Eased off the gas in the 2nd, won 30-0.

Isn't this a little ridiculous? I'm actually a little pissed off at that. I sure hope they emptied the bench. If he kept the starters in, and it must have been apparent what the result was gonna be... These are young kids. And before you pull the everyone gets a trophy thing, don't. 30-0 us excessive. Way to get people to root against you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush up 22-0 at half against C2C.

Eased off the gas in the 2nd, won 30-0.

Glad I went to Denver to see that

That's the classy Crush we all know and love. Way to embarrass a team. Hope you feel good about yourselves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush up 22-0 at half against C2C.

Eased off the gas in the 2nd, won 30-0.

Glad I went to Denver to see that

That's the classy Crush we all know and love. Way to embarrass a team. Hope you feel good about yourselves.

They need to save that for the crabs.

I am sure that the representatives from WYSL will talk to them if they get to the final game about sportsmanship. Like the LL baseball that it is supposedly based on, there should be incentive to ensure that the benches are cleared by the end of the championship game. It should be neat with the interviews and little background vignettes for whichever two teams make it. Who wants to count the times Paul Rabil is listed as the favorite player?

one crush player scored 5 goals in 4 minutes in 3rd 1/4 and added a sixth a couple minutes later yup taking foot off gas pedal

Please give us crabs v 91 on national TV with no Holdbacks!!!!!

Revenge will be sweet for 91.

MD dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

one crush player scored 5 goals in 4 minutes in 3rd 1/4 and added a sixth a couple minutes later yup taking foot off gas pedal

and they ran the clock the second half.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush up 22-0 at half against C2C.

Eased off the gas in the 2nd, won 30-0.

Isn't this a little ridiculous? I'm actually a little pissed off at that. I sure hope they emptied the bench. If he kept the starters in, and it must have been apparent what the result was gonna be... These are young kids. And before you pull the everyone gets a trophy thing, don't. 30-0 us excessive. Way to get people to root against you.

I wonder if some of the other teams knew what they were getting into. Guarantee that some of the non-NY/MD/PA parents who are not tuned in actually think that their kid is on one of the top 10 teams in the country.

Hopefully they did clear the bench starting with the 2nd quarter. I'm not a believer in telling your kids not to try to score, at least until you are well into the 4th, but that is a crazy score. I'll bet that 30-0 score gets into the heads of the other teams though.

Not a Crush fan but it's the World Series of lacrosse. Teams travel far to play in a Big time event. National TV and all games broadcast on MLL radio.

is it just the championship game on tv? espn2?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a Crush fan but it's the World Series of lacrosse. Teams travel far to play in a Big time event. National TV and all games broadcast on MLL radio.

That is the answer. Crush running up the score on a big stage gets the larger 91 program noticed which, in turn, is good for business. As "fun" as it must have been for Crush to humiliate their opponent this way, it is a pretty shocking display of poor sportstmanship. Commercialized as it may be, we are still talking about a youth sporting event where fair play and sportsmanship are supposed to matter. So while Crush may think they embarrassed their opponent, which they did, they also embarrassed themselves in the process with such crass behavior.

Foot off the pedal who is kidding who the same 3 or 4 kids had all the points I would of let my D play some O. Travel 2500 miles to hold a stick and watch. Parents wake up!!!! Your kids win now and lose later when it counts and they cannot produce on school teams!!!

If you listened to the game, the commentators had nothing but positive things to say about both teams regardless that crush was won 30-0. They complimented both teams on their sportsmanship, players didn't get out of hand the way they typically do with blowout games. The Eclipse coach took the game as a learning experience & you can't tell a team to stop scoring completely. There should be a mercy rule in place but since there isn't, there was not much for either team to do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a Crush fan but it's the World Series of lacrosse. Teams travel far to play in a Big time event. National TV and all games broadcast on MLL radio.

That is the answer. Crush running up the score on a big stage gets the larger 91 program noticed which, in turn, is good for business. As "fun" as it must have been for Crush to humiliate their opponent this way, it is a pretty shocking display of poor sportstmanship. Commercialized as it may be, we are still talking about a youth sporting event where fair play and sportsmanship are supposed to matter. So while Crush may think they embarrassed their opponent, which they did, they also embarrassed themselves in the process with such crass behavior.

They always play that way. This is nothing new.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you listened to the game, the commentators had nothing but positive things to say about both teams regardless that crush was won 30-0. They complimented both teams on their sportsmanship, players didn't get out of hand the way they typically do with blowout games. The Eclipse coach took the game as a learning experience & you can't tell a team to stop scoring completely. There should be a mercy rule in place but since there isn't, there was not much for either team to do.

typical 91 bunch of clowns. everyone associated with them too. May be one day they'll catch a lopsided beating on the field. I know they couldn't handle that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you listened to the game, the commentators had nothing but positive things to say about both teams regardless that crush was won 30-0. They complimented both teams on their sportsmanship, players didn't get out of hand the way they typically do with blowout games. The Eclipse coach took the game as a learning experience & you can't tell a team to stop scoring completely. There should be a mercy rule in place but since there isn't, there was not much for either team to do.

the commentators don't have the slightest clue what's going on the losing coach's head or losing players heads. and yeah bro u can tell your team to stop scoring or slow it down. I did it a couple weeks ago with five minutes left in the gand the team I coach was up 11-1. time to pass the ball around the perimeter and not shoot. and one more thing.....u listened to an eighth grade lacrosse game on the radio or on tv? Wow.....boring life.

In answer to the clearing the bench. I am pretty sure most players got in, but no big difference in players until 4th quarter

Eclipse did not play team 91. Eclipse played crabs and lost 15-2. Crabs still had linebacker sized kids who were definitely not 13 (despite the birth certificate requirement). Team 91 beat the Texas team 30-0.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eclipse did not play team 91. Eclipse played crabs and lost 15-2. Crabs still had linebacker sized kids who were definitely not 13 (despite the birth certificate requirement). Team 91 beat the Texas team 30-0.

Get over the "they aren't the right age" some kids are bigger than others

The fact that most people on this board want the crush to lose says it all. It's almost over. Next summer it becomes an individual free for all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eclipse did not play team 91. Eclipse played crabs and lost 15-2. Crabs still had linebacker sized kids who were definitely not 13 (despite the birth certificate requirement). Team 91 beat the Texas team 30-0.

They aren't 13 because you say so? So you are saying bogey forged birth certificates? The crabs roster there is the same from spring minus the ONE kid that is over age by a couple months. Come up with a new excuse.

crabs cheat - so - the kids that are on the field are suspect. It won't matter if they match up against 91. It won't be a game given the stunt they pulled at Beach Lax. Karma is a [lacrosse]... looking forward to see Jumbo Lump embarrassed on National TV.

Earlier post was wrong - halftime score was only 17-0 so not much different in the second half. 10 different goal scorers and 0 shots on goal for the other team. Odd thing to me was that the first 16 goals were assisted and the last 14 were not. Would expect the opposite, unless they just stopped keeping track.

Waiting for game 2 score to be posted, should be over by now.

At 13, the big kids are tall & skinny - not tall & muscle bound. Looking forward to team 91 beating the crabs on Sat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Eclipse did not play team 91. Eclipse played crabs and lost 15-2. Crabs still had linebacker sized kids who were definitely not 13 (despite the birth certificate requirement). Team 91 beat the Texas team 30-0.

They aren't 13 because you say so? So you are saying bogey forged birth certificates? The crabs roster there is the same from spring minus the ONE kid that is over age by a couple months. Come up with a new excuse.

They aren't 13 because you say so? So you are saying bogey forged birth certificates? The crabs roster there is the same from spring minus the ONE kid that is over age by a couple months. Come up with a new excuse. [/quote]

Ha! One kid from beach lax is the only holdback? Would note the cutoff for this tourney is 4 months earlier that US lax. Coincidence?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Earlier post was wrong - halftime score was only 17-0 so not much different in the second half. 10 different goal scorers and 0 shots on goal for the other team. Odd thing to me was that the first 16 goals were assisted and the last 14 were not. Would expect the opposite, unless they just stopped keeping track.

Waiting for game 2 score to be posted, should be over by now.

Game 2 was 20-3. And that team (Rising Sons) beat one of tomorrow's opponents 12-1 this morning - should be another close one. Crabs is the only 2-0 team in the other bracket.

Most of the teams at the World Series of Youth Lacrosse are not under any illusion that they are there to win. They are there so the their boys can have a fun experience. The teams were chosen based upon willingness to go rather than any expectation they were the best in their region or state. The C2C team isn't the best team in Texas. Team Carolina is a 2021 team playing up etc.

The reality is the Crabs and Crush would have played more competitive teams if they had gone to young Gunz as originally planned.

Blowing out a team 30-0 in a tournament that isn't as competitive as your other options shows really poor character. I am not defending the Crabs but Team 91 seems to be equally lacking in character.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the teams at the World Series of Youth Lacrosse are not under any illusion that they are there to win. They are there so the their boys can have a fun experience. The teams were chosen based upon willingness to go rather than any expectation they were the best in their region or state. The C2C team isn't the best team in Texas. Team Carolina is a 2021 team playing up etc.

The reality is the Crabs and Crush would have played more competitive teams if they had gone to young Gunz as originally planned.

Blowing out a team 30-0 in a tournament that isn't as competitive as your other options shows really poor character. I am not defending the Crabs but Team 91 seems to be equally lacking in character.

True, 91 is not without their own issues, but in this comparison I see them as the lesser of two evils.

"Team Carolina is a 2021 team playing up" - Crabs parents asking each other "playing up? What does this term mean, we are not familiar with it, and why are all of the other teams so small?"

30-0? That is despicable. Horrible sportsmanship. They should be kicked out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the teams at the World Series of Youth Lacrosse are not under any illusion that they are there to win. They are there so the their boys can have a fun experience. The teams were chosen based upon willingness to go rather than any expectation they were the best in their region or state. The C2C team isn't the best team in Texas. Team Carolina is a 2021 team playing up etc.

The reality is the Crabs and Crush would have played more competitive teams if they had gone to young Gunz as originally planned.

Blowing out a team 30-0 in a tournament that isn't as competitive as your other options shows really poor character. I am not defending the Crabs but Team 91 seems to be equally lacking in character.

Forgetting about Team 91 and Crabs for a minute, I hope the rest of the teams have a great experience in Denver regardless of the scores, looks like they are getting some good swag too!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

30-0? That is despicable. Horrible sportsmanship. They should be kicked out.

Yes, but hopefully they are just warming up to go 40-0 against the Crabs.

Crush would hang 20+ on every 2020 team out there with this format. 10 minute stopped quarters. They hung 14 on Express in running halves. These games are twice as long with stopped clock. Crush is just a complete freak show. They move the ball better than any major college team and better than any high school in the country. Should be playing up from here on out.

So the local md clubs can get a crack at 91.
No team in md at 2020 can get within 10 goals of them. Really who plans a tourney on july4th. Maybe another crazy lax dad/coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

30-0? That is despicable. Horrible sportsmanship. They should be kicked out.

Not to mention that a T91 player tried to decapitate a Rising Sins player with a horrific cheap shot with 2 seconds left in the game while up like 20-3. T91 is a bunch of thugs and a disgrace to youth sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the teams at the World Series of Youth Lacrosse are not under any illusion that they are there to win. They are there so the their boys can have a fun experience. The teams were chosen based upon willingness to go rather than any expectation they were the best in their region or state. The C2C team isn't the best team in Texas. Team Carolina is a 2021 team playing up etc.

The reality is the Crabs and Crush would have played more competitive teams if they had gone to young Gunz as originally planned.

Blowing out a team 30-0 in a tournament that isn't as competitive as your other options shows really poor character. I am not defending the Crabs but Team 91 seems to be equally lacking in character.

The reality is Crabs and Crush would have more competitive games if the organizers truly tried to pick the 10 best teams. Your nonsense about these were the only teams who would go is ridiculous. Legacy flew to San Diego last year for a tournament. You don't think they would have gone here and been much more competitive? The organizers wanted a national tournament instead of a competitive one and they are getting what they asked for. This final is on national tv, there are perks galore for the kids and you think any other teams wouldn't show up?!? You write well but you are completely wrong on this tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Earlier post was wrong - halftime score was only 17-0 so not much different in the second half. 10 different goal scorers and 0 shots on goal for the other team. Odd thing to me was that the first 16 goals were assisted and the last 14 were not. Would expect the opposite, unless they just stopped keeping track.

Waiting for game 2 score to be posted, should be over by now.

Game 2 was 20-3. And that team (Rising Sons) beat one of tomorrow's opponents 12-1 this morning - should be another close one. Crabs is the only 2-0 team in the other bracket.

Not sure why Rising Sons was even invited. Aside from Crabs and 91 there is really no competition. What a waste of money to fly out to Denver for this. Teams may think twice before signing up for next year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush would hang 20+ on every 2020 team out there with this format. 10 minute stopped quarters. They hung 14 on Express in running halves. These games are twice as long with stopped clock. Crush is just a complete freak show. They move the ball better than any major college team and better than any high school in the country. Should be playing up from here on out.

Well said Crush daddy!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the teams at the World Series of Youth Lacrosse are not under any illusion that they are there to win. They are there so the their boys can have a fun experience. The teams were chosen based upon willingness to go rather than any expectation they were the best in their region or state. The C2C team isn't the best team in Texas. Team Carolina is a 2021 team playing up etc.

The reality is the Crabs and Crush would have played more competitive teams if they had gone to young Gunz as originally planned.

Blowing out a team 30-0 in a tournament that isn't as competitive as your other options shows really poor character. I am not defending the Crabs but Team 91 seems to be equally lacking in character.

The reality is Crabs and Crush would have more competitive games if the organizers truly tried to pick the 10 best teams. Your nonsense about these were the only teams who would go is ridiculous. Legacy flew to San Diego last year for a tournament. You don't think they would have gone here and been much more competitive? The organizers wanted a national tournament instead of a competitive one and they are getting what they asked for. This final is on national tv, there are perks galore for the kids and you think any other teams wouldn't show up?!? You write well but you are completely wrong on this tournament.

The problem isn't that they tried to get good teams from all over the country. The problem is that they failed to get good teams from all over the country. Originally they wanted to have 16 teams but they failed to fill out the field. For example, the Carolina Cannons, Georgia Thunder and West Coast Stars are all better than many of the teams at the World Series and are all at young guns this weekend. The reality is that at least outside of the Northeast it wasn't hard to get an invitation but that most teams didn't want to go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Earlier post was wrong - halftime score was only 17-0 so not much different in the second half. 10 different goal scorers and 0 shots on goal for the other team. Odd thing to me was that the first 16 goals were assisted and the last 14 were not. Would expect the opposite, unless they just stopped keeping track.

Waiting for game 2 score to be posted, should be over by now.

Game 2 was 20-3. And that team (Rising Sons) beat one of tomorrow's opponents 12-1 this morning - should be another close one. Crabs is the only 2-0 team in the other bracket.

Not sure why Rising Sons was even invited. Aside from Crabs and 91 there is really no competition. What a waste of money to fly out to Denver for this. Teams may think twice before signing up for next year.

That is why some teams declined. Why spend all the $ to make it to the finals against the same teams you play at the beach when the rest of the line up is not the same caliber? Not an insult to those teams but it is clearly more of a promotional event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So the local md clubs can get a crack at 91.
No team in md at 2020 can get within 10 goals of them. Really who plans a tourney on july4th. Maybe another crazy lax dad/coach

They are a great team and the best 2020 but your statement is wrong. beach lax two Maryland 2020 teams were within 10. FCA went 12-5 and Breakers 9-1. Crabs win is pretty much thrown out given their influx of players for the tournament. If Crush could change their attitude on the field and on the sidelines more teams might want to play them for the challenge but honestly they are not great opponents purely because of kids tempers and attitudes and the sideline hecklers. Good lacrosse players want the challenge to get better but nobody wants to play arrogant players who are itching for a fist fight during the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the teams at the World Series of Youth Lacrosse are not under any illusion that they are there to win. They are there so the their boys can have a fun experience. The teams were chosen based upon willingness to go rather than any expectation they were the best in their region or state. The C2C team isn't the best team in Texas. Team Carolina is a 2021 team playing up etc.

The reality is the Crabs and Crush would have played more competitive teams if they had gone to young Gunz as originally planned.

Blowing out a team 30-0 in a tournament that isn't as competitive as your other options shows really poor character. I am not defending the Crabs but Team 91 seems to be equally lacking in character.

The reality is Crabs and Crush would have more competitive games if the organizers truly tried to pick the 10 best teams. Your nonsense about these were the only teams who would go is ridiculous. Legacy flew to San Diego last year for a tournament. You don't think they would have gone here and been much more competitive? The organizers wanted a national tournament instead of a competitive one and they are getting what they asked for. This final is on national tv, there are perks galore for the kids and you think any other teams wouldn't show up?!? You write well but you are completely wrong on this tournament.

The problem isn't that they tried to get good teams from all over the country. The problem is that they failed to get good teams from all over the country. Originally they wanted to have 16 teams but they failed to fill out the field. For example, the Carolina Cannons, Georgia Thunder and West Coast Stars are all better than many of the teams at the World Series and are all at young guns this weekend. The reality is that at least outside of the Northeast it wasn't hard to get an invitation but that most teams didn't want to go.

i believe this tournament got off the ground relatively late -- after many teams already made their schedules. ie Looney's 2020 might have gone had they not already gone out to Vail 2 weeks prior. Also big commitment in time and money like the tournament in Fla after Xmas... not every great team is going to make it. I think the future intent is to have qualifying criteria.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If you listened to the game, the commentators had nothing but positive things to say about both teams regardless that crush was won 30-0. They complimented both teams on their sportsmanship, players didn't get out of hand the way they typically do with blowout games. The Eclipse coach took the game as a learning experience & you can't tell a team to stop scoring completely. There should be a mercy rule in place but since there isn't, there was not much for either team to do.

typical 91 bunch of clowns. everyone associated with them too. May be one day they'll catch a lopsided beating on the field. I know they couldn't handle that

Maybe they would if they played up 2 years! And their HC wasn't even there.

organizers of this event, and maybe some others that are similar, should look at certain youth hockey tournaments for guidance. The Brick tournament in Edmonton, which is occurring now, is a good example. Its a 10 year old birth year tourney (2005 this year) where only chartered clubs are invited (its the same every year basically). I believe its 14 now. These clubs form a "brick" team starting in March, when the season ends, and practice in the spring, while playing in some "pre-brick" tournaments. Because lacrosse is more concentrated in certain areas, talent-wise, the tournament can include, for example, 7 elite hotbed area clubs, plus 7 select teams from non-hotbed areas, like "team california" google brick youth hockey tournament - it has a good website that gives you a good feel for it, and its easy to see how it might work for youth lacrosse. There also is a similar, but bigger, tournament every February in Quebec City for Pee Wee (12 year olds).

Regardless of the drama, I'm going to tell my 2021 team to watch the World Series championship on ESPN2 tomorrow. It may not have the best 10 teams in the country, but the final will include the best team and another good team and I want my kids to see the level of play towards which they should work and aspire next year.

P.S. - And if Team Carolina really is a 2021 team playing up (presumably the Cyclones), I wish them the best of luck to have competitive games and a fun tourney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Earlier post was wrong - halftime score was only 17-0 so not much different in the second half. 10 different goal scorers and 0 shots on goal for the other team. Odd thing to me was that the first 16 goals were assisted and the last 14 were not. Would expect the opposite, unless they just stopped keeping track.

Waiting for game 2 score to be posted, should be over by now.

Game 2 was 20-3. And that team (Rising Sons) beat one of tomorrow's opponents 12-1 this morning - should be another close one. Crabs is the only 2-0 team in the other bracket.

Not sure why Rising Sons was even invited. Aside from Crabs and 91 there is really no competition. What a waste of money to fly out to Denver for this. Teams may think twice before signing up for next year.

FYI, Rising Sons beat Crabs last summer in the Crabs own tournament. Don't count then out

Team91 are the biggest scumbags ever
No excuse for running up a score to the tune of 30-0. That is not honoring the game.

Not a fan of holdbacks, but the Crabs didn't cheat by having kids who reclasses. What Team91 just did is the absolute wprst.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the teams at the World Series of Youth Lacrosse are not under any illusion that they are there to win. They are there so the their boys can have a fun experience. The teams were chosen based upon willingness to go rather than any expectation they were the best in their region or state. The C2C team isn't the best team in Texas. Team Carolina is a 2021 team playing up etc.

The reality is the Crabs and Crush would have played more competitive teams if they had gone to young Gunz as originally planned.

Blowing out a team 30-0 in a tournament that isn't as competitive as your other options shows really poor character. I am not defending the Crabs but Team 91 seems to be equally lacking in character.

My youngest son isn't a fan of lax but rather football. It is not that unusual to see huge lopsided scores- in local rec games no less, week after week! This isn't a character competition. I agree, the score shoukd have been halted a bit but do we tell at the kids that get 4.3 averages or 102.7 GPAs to not embarassed other students by doing their best? From what I've heard, there was no in your face win mentality in that game. If anything, the tournament shoukd have matched teams up better. Bringing your best in any sport, in any classroom, in any arena, shouldn't be frowned upon. If this was a local lax game or scrimmage with developmental coaches I'd agree, but let's not ask better teams, in any sport to pass the ball round and round like keep away, as that is even more humiliating. I've been on both sides with my kids and having a game of keep away is far worse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team91 are the biggest scumbags ever
No excuse for running up a score to the tune of 30-0. That is not honoring the game.

Not a fan of holdbacks, but the Crabs didn't cheat by having kids who reclasses. What Team91 just did is the absolute wprst.

See poster above-this is the World Series of lacrosse. No team there should be expected to hold back. Switching positions or passing the ball around is even more insulting to the other team in this event. Agree with the above poster also that the teams should have been chosen and matched better. Crabs did not just use holdbacks as you say although that practice lacks sportsmanship itself.. They used kids who had just completed 8th grade in an7th grade tournament before school even let out for the majority of the area. You become a member of the class when you attend a day of school with that class. The kids were not rostered on the 2020 team-they were rostered on the 2019 team. Holdbacks are bad enough but showing up with kids that are on the 2019 team (and are still playing 2019 tourneys this summer) is cheating.

This is not the World Series of Lacrosse. There are only 2 decent teams there. The Crabs' Young Guns tournament is a much better group of top teams.

If you're there for a fun vacation, good for you. But the tournament is a joke.

So scoring a lot of goals is being a scumbag but having older kids on your roster is ok. Seriously! I'm no fan of running up the score but at the same time passing it around is demeaning to the other team as well. As far as holdbacks re-class or whatever you call it. That is cheating. Stop telling yourself its not because as of now nobody is checking. That is what is wrong with Lacrosse and when it gets fixed there are going to be some embarrassed teams. Although it looks like Crush can withstand birth certificate scrutiny so all the haters will have to come up with another reason why they win.

Whether you think the teams or this tournament is worthy or not due to the competition, it is exciting for the kids and their teams. These teams are getting treated like royalty and the kids are loving every minute of it, win or lose. I doubt 91 or Crabs gives a hoot about missing Young Guns, something they both have probably already won in the past. It is not like they have not had opportunities this Spring and Summer to play the best competition. I would think other clubs would be happy that they are absent from this tournament, as it opens up more room for other teams that you may not always get to play. Enjoy Young Guns and let the other teams at WSYL enjoy. While this tournament may not be the hardest competition, all the teams are having a great time meeting players and coaches from around the country, being interviewed on the radio show, watching, cheering and learning from other teams and it will culminate at the end of tomorrow night at the MLL game at half time when all the teams are introduced on tv and celebrated, not just the winners. This is a once in a life time opportunity for these kids and I am sure every single one of these kids will remember it fondly.

How did Team91 get such an easy draw? Must promised to buy a 100 Body by Jake ab crunch machines.

We get it. The Dads of Long Island are so fired up about a loss they they asked the tournament organizers to give the Crabs a much harder oath. Oh well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Most of the teams at the World Series of Youth Lacrosse are not under any illusion that they are there to win. They are there so the their boys can have a fun experience. The teams were chosen based upon willingness to go rather than any expectation they were the best in their region or state. The C2C team isn't the best team in Texas. Team Carolina is a 2021 team playing up etc.

The reality is the Crabs and Crush would have played more competitive teams if they had gone to young Gunz as originally planned.

Blowing out a team 30-0 in a tournament that isn't as competitive as your other options shows really poor character. I am not defending the Crabs but Team 91 seems to be equally lacking in character.

My youngest son isn't a fan of lax but rather football. It is not that unusual to see huge lopsided scores- in local rec games no less, week after week! This isn't a character competition. I agree, the score shoukd have been halted a bit but do we tell at the kids that get 4.3 averages or 102.7 GPAs to not embarassed other students by doing their best? From what I've heard, there was no in your face win mentality in that game. If anything, the tournament shoukd have matched teams up better. Bringing your best in any sport, in any classroom, in any arena, shouldn't be frowned upon. If this was a local lax game or scrimmage with developmental coaches I'd agree, but let's not ask better teams, in any sport to pass the ball round and round like keep away, as that is even more humiliating. I've been on both sides with my kids and having a game of keep away is far worse.

There are ways to keep the score reasonable without playing keep away. 30-0 is ridiculous. I wonder if you went on laxpower and looked at every high school game played last year whether you could find a score that lopsided. I don't see why it's humiliating to the other team to let the kids play other positions. The boys usually find it fun and after all they are 13.

To the poster that said teams who are in the World Series shouldn't have hold back; normally I'd have sympathy for that argument but the reality is that the organizers didn't put together an elite group of teams. Next year if teams have to qualify that approach might be appropriate but it also probably won't be necessary.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Whether you think the teams or this tournament is worthy or not due to the competition, it is exciting for the kids and their teams. These teams are getting treated like royalty and the kids are loving every minute of it, win or lose. I doubt 91 or Crabs gives a hoot about missing Young Guns, something they both have probably already won in the past. It is not like they have not had opportunities this Spring and Summer to play the best competition. I would think other clubs would be happy that they are absent from this tournament, as it opens up more room for other teams that you may not always get to play. Enjoy Young Guns and let the other teams at WSYL enjoy. While this tournament may not be the hardest competition, all the teams are having a great time meeting players and coaches from around the country, being interviewed on the radio show, watching, cheering and learning from other teams and it will culminate at the end of tomorrow night at the MLL game at half time when all the teams are introduced on tv and celebrated, not just the winners. This is a once in a life time opportunity for these kids and I am sure every single one of these kids will remember it fondly.

It sounds like a wonderful event. Hopefully some nut doesn't ruin it by running the score up 30-0.

well said, cant put a price tag on that. Have fun enjoy it and don't let any of the $hithead$ here take the fun out of it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So scoring a lot of goals is being a scumbag but having older kids on your roster is ok. Seriously! I'm no fan of running up the score but at the same time passing it around is demeaning to the other team as well. As far as holdbacks re-class or whatever you call it. That is cheating. Stop telling yourself its not because as of now nobody is checking. That is what is wrong with Lacrosse and when it gets fixed there are going to be some embarrassed teams. Although it looks like Crush can withstand birth certificate scrutiny so all the haters will have to come up with another reason why they win.

If the team playing in Denver were to play all their games at beach lax with the team in Denver, there would have been a very different outcome. Take away all the kids who are not the correct age for the grade and you are left with a good team but not a stand out team. Love the fact that more tournaments are going to start using the Denver model and hope most legitimate ethical clubs support those tourneys and not tourneys run by those who do not care about character.

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

that's it coaches stay classy. keep having them shoot in the second half. [lacrosse] bags

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

Great sportsmanship from Team91 again

We are sending a message loud and clear throughout the lax world who is the best team!!! If you can't handle it have your kid stop playing lacrosse. Every time you play us from now on your kids will be defeated before the first face off. LOVE IT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are sending a message loud and clear throughout the lax world who is the best team!!! If you can't handle it have your kid stop playing lacrosse. Every time you play us from now on your kids will be defeated before the first face off. LOVE IT.

Sad part of that post is since it is Team 91 I can't be sure the poster isn't serious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are sending a message loud and clear throughout the lax world who is the best team!!! If you can't handle it have your kid stop playing lacrosse. Every time you play us from now on your kids will be defeated before the first face off. LOVE IT.

Are you serious? And you wonder why even other T91 parents hate you. These are kids. So much for sportsmanship.

Biggest Jack [lacrosse] organization around. one day those kids will be playing in high separate from each other and one day they'll be on the opposite end of the same beating and their parents will be crying and yelling c'mon ref the entire game. seen it thousand's of times before. for the guy who said LOVE IT......YOU DEFINITELY RODE THE BENCH IN HIGH SCHOOL! Tool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are sending a message loud and clear throughout the lax world who is the best team!!! If you can't handle it have your kid stop playing lacrosse. Every time you play us from now on your kids will be defeated before the first face off. LOVE IT.

Are you serious? And you wonder why even other T91 parents hate you. These are kids. So much for sportsmanship.

Do you seriously think this is a T91 kid or parent? Please...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are sending a message loud and clear throughout the lax world who is the best team!!! If you can't handle it have your kid stop playing lacrosse. Every time you play us from now on your kids will be defeated before the first face off. LOVE IT.

Are you serious? And you wonder why even other T91 parents hate you. These are kids. So much for sportsmanship.

Do you seriously think this is a T91 kid or parent? Please...

Sadly, having been on the sidelines with Crush parents, I am nearly 100% certain that it is.

What was the final score? Did they call the game at half?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are sending a message loud and clear throughout the lax world who is the best team!!! If you can't handle it have your kid stop playing lacrosse. Every time you play us from now on your kids will be defeated before the first face off. LOVE IT.

Are you serious? And you wonder why even other T91 parents hate you. These are kids. So much for sportsmanship.

Do you seriously think this is a T91 kid or parent? Please...

Sadly, having been on the sidelines with Crush parents, I am nearly 100% certain that it is.

Not a T91 parent. I am the parent of a kid whose team has gotten beaten by MD holdback filled teams. Look how funny you sound when the playing field is even. Just goes to show you, these BS teams from MD, PA, and Mass can only win when they play down. I beg Crush to hang 50 on the Crabs. Please, don't stop scoring till the last second. Send that RM back to MD with his tail between his legs. Please, don't start with the "they're only kids line". Your holdback reclass teams have had no problem hanging as many goals as they can on our age legit teams for years... I hope the lacrosse world takes notice!!!

typical Spallina keep scoring. Zero sportsmanship. king of all [lacrosse] bags

[quote=Anonymous]How did Team91 get such an easy draw? Must promised to buy a 100 Body by Jake ab crunch machines.

Because even the nicest guy in America hates the Crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

typical Spallina keep scoring. Zero sportsmanship. king of all [lacrosse] bags

not saying it's right, but spallina was in annapolis yesterday when they were hanging 30

Spallina was not at the games yesterday. He was with the Lizards Saw him there in teams last game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are sending a message loud and clear throughout the lax world who is the best team!!! If you can't handle it have your kid stop playing lacrosse. Every time you play us from now on your kids will be defeated before the first face off. LOVE IT.

I hope this is a parody post, but it's hard to tell give the parents of that team.

Seriously. It's like they've made it their life mission to beat the Crabs after losing some random tournament.

When these parents grow up (the parents, not the kids), they'll learn how their obsession with the Crabs was a joke.

Beating teams by 20-30 goals? Way to spread the game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score? Did they call the game at half?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

Not sure if it was a typo or intentional to stir the pot, but halftime score was only 13-2. Final was 25-3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are sending a message loud and clear throughout the lax world who is the best team!!! If you can't handle it have your kid stop playing lacrosse. Every time you play us from now on your kids will be defeated before the first face off. LOVE IT.

I hope this is a parody post, but it's hard to tell give the parents of that team.

Seriously. It's like they've made it their life mission to beat the Crabs after losing some random tournament

When these parents grow up (the parents, not the kids), they'll learn how their obsession

with the Crabs was a joke.

Beating teams by 20-30 goals? Way to spread the game.

I'm in Denver. My son heard the Crush players talking about their coaches wanting them to score 100 goals this week in the tournament. I'm not sure I understand these guys and what they are trying to prove. Great teams also exhibit great sportsmanship.

It was 23-2. They played keep away with a running clock in the second half. They did let the D play some O in the second half.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score? Did they call the game at half?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

Not sure if it was a typo or intentional to stir the pot, but halftime score was only 13-2. Final was 25-3.

Ok. That is much better. Feel like a tough beating teams up by 23 goals?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score? Did they call the game at half?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

Not sure if it was a typo or intentional to stir the pot, but halftime score was only 13-2. Final was 25-3.

Ok. That is much better. Feel like a tough beating teams up by 23 goals?

I think they should try to score 50 today on national TV. It would be awesome and would show everyone out there what can happen if you are driven and decide to be the best. Good for them!!!! Go Crush!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score? Did they call the game at half?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

Not sure if it was a typo or intentional to stir the pot, but halftime score was only 13-2. Final was 25-3.

Ok. That is much better. Feel like a tough beating teams up by 23 goals?

I think they should try to score 50 today on national TV. It would be awesome and would show everyone out there what can happen if you are driven and decide to be the best. Good for them!!!! Go Crush!

STRONG ISLAND! HOME OF THE WORLD'S WORST TATS!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score? Did they call the game at half?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

Not sure if it was a typo or intentional to stir the pot, but halftime score was only 13-2. Final was 25-3.

Ok. That is much better. Feel like a tough beating teams up by 23 goals?

I think they should try to score 50 today on national TV. It would be awesome and would show everyone out there what can happen if you are driven and decide to be the best. Good for them!!!! Go Crush!

STRONG ISLAND! HOME OF THE WORLD'S WORST TATS!

go count your teeth hillbilly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We are sending a message loud and clear throughout the lax world who is the best team!!! If you can't handle it have your kid stop playing lacrosse. Every time you play us from now on your kids will be defeated before the first face off. LOVE IT.

I hope this is a parody post, but it's hard to tell give the parents of that team.

Seriously. It's like they've made it their life mission to beat the Crabs after losing some random tournament

When these parents grow up (the parents, not the kids), they'll learn how their obsession

with the Crabs was a joke.

Beating teams by 20-30 goals? Way to spread the game.

I'm in Denver. My son heard the Crush players talking about their coaches wanting them to score 100 goals this week in the tournament. I'm not sure I understand these guys and what they are trying to prove. Great teams also exhibit great sportsmanship.

You mean like the sportsmanship of playing down against younger kids to win a t-shirt? Or bringing in kids from older teams for specific games, to win at all cost? Is that the sportsmanship you're talking about? That spirit of fair play that our friends from MD, PA, and Mass, show at every grade at every tournament, all summer? Is that the kind of sportsmanship you're referring to? Stop whining, and let your son's team take their on age defeat with some pride. Teach him that there are kids better than him, that work harder. Then go home and have them repeat another grade, you know all sportsman like... CRUSH, please don't stop scoring until the last second, please break 50 against the Crabs if they even make the Championship...

a md parent here, all of you people on this blog are embarrassing. crush is obviously a talented group of boys that have an incredible lacrosse IQ with incredible skills. Just because they are talented and work their asses off doesn't mean you have to rip them apart. They have proved themselves time and time again.

Championship game feels like if the Patriots somehow were playing the Heat with Labron.

I know this will sound harsh but the crush coaches should be smacked around. Grown men think it's ok to embarrass kids this way. They should be embarrassed the same way by being smacked around. Sorry, posses me off..

Than do something about it and kick there [lacrosse] or shut your mouth little boy!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this will sound harsh but the crush coaches should be smacked around. Grown men think it's ok to embarrass kids this way. They should be embarrassed the same way by being smacked around. Sorry, posses me off..

Where's your self righteous indignation over kids playing down two years? Go smack your ole lady around numb nuts... What a [lacrosse].

say goodnight crabs. gonna be a long day. 9-2 already. you can't play with long island.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this will sound harsh but the crush coaches should be smacked around. Grown men think it's ok to embarrass kids this way. They should be embarrassed the same way by being smacked around. Sorry, posses me off..

Where's your self righteous indignation over kids playing down two years? Go smack your ole lady around numb nuts... What a [lacrosse].

The dominant club mantle has been officially passed from Express/Crabs/3D to 91! All hail 91!!! And for all that talk about the game spreading beyond the traditional hotbeds...really? Don't think so, not even close yet.

Holdbacks don't change the game much?....proof is in the pudding, or score for that matter!

Crabs can't win without their Holdbacks.

Cheaters never prosper!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know this will sound harsh but the crush coaches should be smacked around. Grown men think it's ok to embarrass kids this way. They should be embarrassed the same way by being smacked around. Sorry, posses me off..

Where's your self righteous indignation over kids playing down two years? Go smack your ole lady around numb nuts... What a [lacrosse].

Not a parent on either team. Total lack of class by Spallina. How about playing everyone and not letting the same kids continue to score.

The dominant club mantle has been officially passed from Express/Crabs/3D to 91! All hail 91!!! And for all that talk about the game spreading beyond the traditional hotbeds...really? Don't think so, not even close yet.

Congratulations to Team 91 for winning the Lacrosse Mom Tanning Bed competition. Undefeated all year long.

Nobody says orange more than a Team 91 mom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to Team 91 for winning the Lacrosse Mom Tanning Bed competition. Undefeated all year long.

Nobody says orange more than a Team 91 mom.

Bitter much? Crabs, you lost when you were forced to play on age. Attacking mothers of opposing teams is a low for even you Crabs dad.

He's never had class. He could have played everyone today and won. I guess it's easier to justify keeping his own kid in the whole game if he doesn't make any subs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know this will sound harsh but the crush coaches should be smacked around. Grown men think it's ok to embarrass kids this way. They should be embarrassed the same way by being smacked around. Sorry, posses me off..

Where's your self righteous indignation over kids playing down two years? Go smack your ole lady around numb nuts... What a [lacrosse].

Not a parent on either team. Total lack of class by Spallina. How about playing everyone and not letting the same kids continue to score.

Why? Crabs played the same kids most of the game. Also Crabs played the 2019s most of the game against T91 at the beach. Why the double standard? After what RM pulled at BeachLax, the Crabs deserved the loss ON NATIONAL TELEVISION by more than 10. As most here have said, karma is a bit-- but RM set up these poor boys for the double digit loss. Not a 91 fan, but having watched the Crabs behavior at beach lax, they did have this coming.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to Team 91 for winning the Lacrosse Mom Tanning Bed competition. Undefeated all year long.

Nobody says orange more than a Team 91 mom.

Bitter much? Crabs, you lost when you were forced to play on age. Attacking mothers of opposing teams is a low for even you Crabs dad.

And it wasn't even close bitter Crabs mom. The Crush took your boys to the wood shed.

Long Island Domination....get used to it!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He's never had class. He could have played everyone today and won. I guess it's easier to justify keeping his own kid in the whole game if he doesn't make any subs.

And Crabs played everyone on their bench? Tell that to the 2020s that had to sit out the last game versus 91 and watch the 2019s play because they were not good enough. Now you complain about a team doing the same thing because you lost? 91 legitimately won by playing with their regularly rostered team - how they play their team members is nobody's concern. You deserved the thrashing you so readily give other teams when you have your holdback players. Stop whining and take a dose of humility and while you are at it, look for an ethical team for your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations to Team 91 for winning the Lacrosse Mom Tanning Bed competition. Undefeated all year long.

Nobody says orange more than a Team 91 mom.

Bitter much? Crabs, you lost when you were forced to play on age. Attacking mothers of opposing teams is a low for even you Crabs dad.

I don't think the previous post was made by anybody associated with the Crabs. It was pretty funny, though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He's never had class. He could have played everyone today and won. I guess it's easier to justify keeping his own kid in the whole game if he doesn't make any subs.

Listening to the MLL announcers talk about winning with sportsmanship and class while scoring 20+ goals 4 times and scoring their 19th goal with under 30 seconds had me shaking my head. Total BS. Joe's ego is just out of control and those parents on his team who put up with it and his actions are just as bad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He's never had class. He could have played everyone today and won. I guess it's easier to justify keeping his own kid in the whole game if he doesn't make any subs.

Listening to the MLL announcers talk about winning with sportsmanship and class while scoring 20+ goals 4 times and scoring their 19th goal with under 30 seconds had me shaking my head. Total BS. Joe's ego is just out of control and those parents on his team who put up with it and his actions are just as bad.

Just as bad as the Crabs kids and parents that high five and celebrate after winning a game against kids 1-2 years their junior? Please...Crabs celebrate when they cheat and then expect other teams to show restraint when they get to play them with all on age players? Double standard. No fan of Crush but Crabs had it coming and 91 played well and with skill. Would Crabs preferred them passing the ball around or playing offense as defense? That we would be more humiliating on television.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

say goodnight crabs. gonna be a long day. 9-2 already. you can't play with long island.

Congratulations on the win but remember you are but one team on Long Island-a great one but don't ruin it by being a jerk. As a whole, Long Island does not dominant this age group. Crush certainly does and should be proud of that but we all know that. Just stop the Long Island nonsense as you just become a stereotypical NYer and set up your fellow LI teams up.

I get the hatred not huge fan of the guy but his teams are well schooled disciplined and talented. Ripping him for his son playing a lot is one thing the kid scoring 6 goals in championship justifies things. Lot of jealousy on here Those boys showed people on national TV skills and the future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

say goodnight crabs. gonna be a long day. 9-2 already. you can't play with long island.

Congratulations on the win but remember you are but one team on Long Island-a great one but don't ruin it by being a jerk. As a whole, Long Island does not dominant this age group. Crush certainly does and should be proud of that but we all know that. Just stop the Long Island nonsense as you just become a stereotypical NYer and set up your fellow LI teams up.

Congrats to Team 91, hard work does pay off. Having played them several times over the years I have always been impressed by their skill and discipline. At the same time, I have always been disappointed by the show on the sidelines, if the parents could dial it back a bit, win with grace and humility, and maybe even bit their lip once and a while they could be tremendous ambassadors for the sport. Lead by example!

Congrats to Crush. Long Island team with Long Island kids showing the country how much further they have to go to compete.

Congratulations CRUSH! Really proud of those boys. Just as an aside note, I do feel badly for the true 2020 Crabs that ended up getting the short end of the stick, because older kids chose to play down and were encouraged to do so by their coach and parents at Beach Lax. I think this game would have been a lot less stressful if there was not a score to settle after the Crabs coach allowed his eighth graders to join his team and bench some of his 7th graders. If you play the game with honor, play with your rostered kids that made the team for this year, then this game would have been a lot more fun for all. It would have still been competitive, as they are a good team, but the Crabs coach set his team up for a beating. The 2020 Crabs played great and should be proud. The Crabs coach, hopefully feels the bite of karma. Congrats to the Crabs team on a good game!

I really cannot believe that 91 didn't play everyone today. The game wasn't close. I don't get it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congrats to Crush. Long Island team with Long Island kids showing the country how much further they have to go to compete.

Again, a little humility goes a long way. You earned your win and got your revenge - now have some grace. Why bring in the rest of the country? Karma may catch up with Crush some day too-learn from what people are trying to tell you on this board and be ambassadors and not arses. You are ruining any respect you earned through this win by talking this way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations CRUSH! Really proud of those boys. Just as an aside note, I do feel badly for the true 2020 Crabs that ended up getting the short end of the stick, because older kids chose to play down and were encouraged to do so by their coach and parents at Beach Lax. I think this game would have been a lot less stressful if there was not a score to settle after the Crabs coach allowed his eighth graders to join his team and bench some of his 7th graders. If you play the game with honor, play with your rostered kids that made the team for this year, then this game would have been a lot more fun for all. It would have still been competitive, as they are a good team, but the Crabs coach set his team up for a beating. The 2020 Crabs played great and should be proud. The Crabs coach, hopefully feels the bite of karma. Congrats to the Crabs team on a good game!

you make is sound like its over, its actually only just begun. Just wait until the recruiting tournaments when all best are off about age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations CRUSH! Really proud of those boys. Just as an aside note, I do feel badly for the true 2020 Crabs that ended up getting the short end of the stick, because older kids chose to play down and were encouraged to do so by their coach and parents at Beach Lax. I think this game would have been a lot less stressful if there was not a score to settle after the Crabs coach allowed his eighth graders to join his team and bench some of his 7th graders. If you play the game with honor, play with your rostered kids that made the team for this year, then this game would have been a lot more fun for all. It would have still been competitive, as they are a good team, but the Crabs coach set his team up for a beating. The 2020 Crabs played great and should be proud. The Crabs coach, hopefully feels the bite of karma. Congrats to the Crabs team on a good game!

you make is sound like its over, its actually only just begun. Just wait until the recruiting tournaments when all best are off about age.

No this tournament is DONE. I am sure both teams will do just fine in the future, the difference- Crabs will play older kids that choose to play with younger teams. However, the coach got handed today what he deserved, for all to see. I'm glad the true 2020 Crabs got to be spotlighted this week. Good for them. I'm sure the 2 yr older players will be filling out their roster next year, while the rest of the confident kids will be working hard to play up.

Crab parent here. No excuses. There were no players missing that made the age cutoff for u13. We were just soundly beaten. Good job to all . See you next Summer.

Where was the Express in all this? Have they dropped off the face of the earth in this age group? Not long ago they used to dominate this age. Even their older teams are a lot less competitive than they used to be. What's going on there?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crab parent here. No excuses. There were no players missing that made the age cutoff for u13. We were just soundly beaten. Good job to all . See you next Summer.

That made the cutoff that cutoff was a joke! I heard the announcer say a boy turned 14 last week. So did my 2019. Not u13

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really cannot believe that 91 didn't play everyone today. The game wasn't close. I don't get it.

Wait. There are some kids on the team that didn't even see the field? That is ridiculous. They won the game convincingly. Everyone on that that should have at least played a full quarter, particularly because it wouldn't have affected the outcome. All of those parents paid good money and should have had a good experience playing time wise for their kids.

I saw Spallina played his kid the entire game, it seemed, so that is also ridiculous. But if there were kids who were on the bench the entire time, that is indefensible.

Can anyone confirm this? I hope this isn't true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where was the Express in all this? Have they dropped off the face of the earth in this age group? Not long ago they used to dominate this age. Even their older teams are a lot less competitive than they used to be. What's going on there?

They were at Legacy Invitational. Not every team was invited, they tried to spread out the teams across the nation. Express 2020 Team 1 is a very good team.

You keep harping on how crabs played the last time with holdbacks. Acting like 91 is innocent in all this. 91 has a player that has played with their 2023 team!. So stop acting all innocent. Please dont tell me thats his grade excuse. Hes 2 years older age wise

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Congratulations CRUSH! Really proud of those boys. Just as an aside note, I do feel badly for the true 2020 Crabs that ended up getting the short end of the stick, because older kids chose to play down and were encouraged to do so by their coach and parents at Beach Lax. I think this game would have been a lot less stressful if there was not a score to settle after the Crabs coach allowed his eighth graders to join his team and bench some of his 7th graders. If you play the game with honor, play with your rostered kids that made the team for this year, then this game would have been a lot more fun for all. It would have still been competitive, as they are a good team, but the Crabs coach set his team up for a beating. The 2020 Crabs played great and should be proud. The Crabs coach, hopefully feels the bite of karma. Congrats to the Crabs team on a good game!

wasn't just the coach, the owner of the club pushes the hold back, it's part of the Crab culture.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

He's never had class. He could have played everyone today and won. I guess it's easier to justify keeping his own kid in the whole game if he doesn't make any subs.

Listening to the MLL announcers talk about winning with sportsmanship and class while scoring 20+ goals 4 times and scoring their 19th goal with under 30 seconds had me shaking my head. Total BS. Joe's ego is just out of control and those parents on his team who put up with it and his actions are just as bad.

Just as bad as the Crabs kids and parents that high five and celebrate after winning a game against kids 1-2 years their junior? Please...Crabs celebrate when they cheat and then expect other teams to show restraint when they get to play them with all on age players? Double standard. No fan of Crush but Crabs had it coming and 91 played well and with skill. Would Crabs preferred them passing the ball around or playing offense as defense? That we would be more humiliating on television.

Crabs had it coming with the holdbacks at beach lax, ruining the spirit and integrity of youth lacrosse for a win.

This game wasn't just about the two teams playing, it is also a selling point for Team 91 Maryland. 91 blows away the self appointed top MD lax team on national TV, what better advertising for the new club coming to MD...kind of like the new kid coming to school and kicking the crap out of the bully in front of his classmates!

would you like some humble pie to go with those cooked crabs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really cannot believe that 91 didn't play everyone today. The game wasn't close. I don't get it.

Wait. There are some kids on the team that didn't even see the field? That is ridiculous. They won the game convincingly. Everyone on that that should have at least played a full quarter, particularly because it wouldn't have affected the outcome. All of those parents paid good money and should have had a good experience playing time wise for their kids.

I saw Spallina played his kid the entire game, it seemed, so that is also ridiculous. But if there were kids who were on the bench the entire time, that is indefensible.

Can anyone confirm this? I hope this isn't true.

I watched the game and I know for a fact one player only was in for one single face off, he played the wing. The Faceoff kid won the face off, ran down and scored and the little wing player came right off never to go in again. Another little player went into the same for the last minute of the game on attack. I am almost certain there were others that barely played. I just cannot imagine the mentality behind it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You keep harping on how crabs played the last time with holdbacks. Acting like 91 is innocent in all this. 91 has a player that has played with their 2023 team!. So stop acting all innocent. Please dont tell me thats his grade excuse. Hes 2 years older age wise

LOL, good point

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really cannot believe that 91 didn't play everyone today. The game wasn't close. I don't get it.

Wait. There are some kids on the team that didn't even see the field? That is ridiculous. They won the game convincingly. Everyone on that that should have at least played a full quarter, particularly because it wouldn't have affected the outcome. All of those parents paid good money and should have had a good experience playing time wise for their kids.

I saw Spallina played his kid the entire game, it seemed, so that is also ridiculous. But if there were kids who were on the bench the entire time, that is indefensible.

Can anyone confirm this? I hope this isn't true.

I watched the game and I know for a fact one player only was in for one single face off, he played the wing. The Faceoff kid won the face off, ran down and scored and the little wing player came right off never to go in again. Another little player went into the same for the last minute of the game on attack. I am almost certain there were others that barely played. I just cannot imagine the mentality behind it

at that point, Mom and Dad need to move onto another club with their child.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You keep harping on how crabs played the last time with holdbacks. Acting like 91 is innocent in all this. 91 has a player that has played with their 2023 team!. So stop acting all innocent. Please dont tell me thats his grade excuse. Hes 2 years older age wise

Only when the 2023 team plays up. Then he is technically playing on grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score? Did they call the game at half?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

Not sure if it was a typo or intentional to stir the pot, but halftime score was only 13-2. Final was 25-3.

Ok. That is much better. Feel like a tough beating teams up by 23 goals?

I think they should try to score 50 today on national TV. It would be awesome and would show everyone out there what can happen if you are driven and decide to be the best. Good for them!!!! Go Crush!

Clown statement.......and I was rooting for 91 yesterday. try to score 50 goals makes u the best? I think if u beat a team by ten maybe twelve goals you can still prove your dominance while taking your foot off the gas late in the game with a big lead. you sucked in youth sports as a kid I'm sure. SUCKED

He's still 2 years older than the competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really cannot believe that 91 didn't play everyone today. The game wasn't close. I don't get it.

Wait. There are some kids on the team that didn't even see the field? That is ridiculous. They won the game convincingly. Everyone on that that should have at least played a full quarter, particularly because it wouldn't have affected the outcome. All of those parents paid good money and should have had a good experience playing time wise for their kids.

I saw Spallina played his kid the entire game, it seemed, so that is also ridiculous. But if there were kids who were on the bench the entire time, that is indefensible.

Can anyone confirm this? I hope this isn't true.

I watched the game and I know for a fact one player only was in for one single face off, he played the wing. The Faceoff kid won the face off, ran down and scored and the little wing player came right off never to go in again. Another little player went into the same for the last minute of the game on attack. I am almost certain there were others that barely played. I just cannot imagine the mentality behind it

That is horrible. Spallina is a scumbag.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

say goodnight crabs. gonna be a long day. 9-2 already. you can't play with long island.

Congratulations on the win but remember you are but one team on Long Island-a great one but don't ruin it by being a jerk. As a whole, Long Island does not dominant this age group. Crush certainly does and should be proud of that but we all know that. Just stop the Long Island nonsense as you just become a stereotypical NYer and set up your fellow LI teams up.

right.......anyway go chew some tobacco and drink some moonshine.....hurry up before 9 am Maryland hillbilly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really cannot believe that 91 didn't play everyone today. The game wasn't close. I don't get it.

Wait. There are some kids on the team that didn't even see the field? That is ridiculous. They won the game convincingly. Everyone on that that should have at least played a full quarter, particularly because it wouldn't have affected the outcome. All of those parents paid good money and should have had a good experience playing time wise for their kids.

I saw Spallina played his kid the entire game, it seemed, so that is also ridiculous. But if there were kids who were on the bench the entire time, that is indefensible.

Can anyone confirm this? I hope this isn't true.

I watched the game and I know for a fact one player only was in for one single face off, he played the wing. The Faceoff kid won the face off, ran down and scored and the little wing player came right off never to go in again. Another little player went into the same for the last minute of the game on attack. I am almost certain there were others that barely played. I just cannot imagine the mentality behind it

That is horrible. Spallina is a scumbag.

I am pretty sure (with about 1:30 left in the game) he came to the bench and asking if anyone didn't play, because one little boy raised his hand, that is when he went in on attack

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really cannot believe that 91 didn't play everyone today. The game wasn't close. I don't get it.

Wait. There are some kids on the team that didn't even see the field? That is ridiculous. They won the game convincingly. Everyone on that that should have at least played a full quarter, particularly because it wouldn't have affected the outcome. All of those parents paid good money and should have had a good experience playing time wise for their kids.

I saw Spallina played his kid the entire game, it seemed, so that is also ridiculous. But if there were kids who were on the bench the entire time, that is indefensible.

Can anyone confirm this? I hope this isn't true.

I watched the game and I know for a fact one player only was in for one single face off, he played the wing. The Faceoff kid won the face off, ran down and scored and the little wing player came right off never to go in again. Another little player went into the same for the last minute of the game on attack. I am almost certain there were others that barely played. I just cannot imagine the mentality behind it

That is horrible. Spallina is a scumbag.

I am pretty sure (with about 1:30 left in the game) he came to the bench and asking if anyone didn't play, because one little boy raised his hand, that is when he went in on attack

That shows a guy who is not there for the kids (or more accurately, he is there for HIS kid and his kid only). It's not hard to figure out playing time, especially when Team 91 was comfortably in control for most of the game. This is not a tournament 10 minutes from their practice field. All of those parents paid a lot of money to fly out to CO and to give a kid only 1 minute when the team is playing on national TV?

Team 91 parents - how can you defend this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

say goodnight crabs. gonna be a long day. 9-2 already. you can't play with long island.

Congratulations on the win but remember you are but one team on Long Island-a great one but don't ruin it by being a jerk. As a whole, Long Island does not dominant this age group. Crush certainly does and should be proud of that but we all know that. Just stop the Long Island nonsense as you just become a stereotypical NYer and set up your fellow LI teams up.

right.......anyway go chew some tobacco and drink some moonshine.....hurry up before 9 am Maryland hillbilly

go hit the tan salon, and gel up your hair some more! the situation is waiting for you in LBI with some red bull and vodka's...Guido!

Are you guys having fun?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

say goodnight crabs. gonna be a long day. 9-2 already. you can't play with long island.

Congratulations on the win but remember you are but one team on Long Island-a great one but don't ruin it by being a jerk. As a whole, Long Island does not dominant this age group. Crush certainly does and should be proud of that but we all know that. Just stop the Long Island nonsense as you just become a stereotypical NYer and set up your fellow LI teams up.

right.......anyway go chew some tobacco and drink some moonshine.....hurry up before 9 am Maryland hillbilly

go hit the tan salon, and gel up your hair some more! the situation is waiting for you in LBI with some red bull and vodka's...Guido!

ok long beach island is in Jersey clown. I know most of you hicks don't go much further than 8th grade. at the end of the day the only thing that mattered was the score

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score? Did they call the game at half? O

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

Not sure if it was a typo or intentional to stir the pot, but halftime score was only 13-2. Final was 25-3.

Ok. That is much better. Feel like a tough beating teams up by 23 goals?

I think they should try to score 50 today on national TV. It would be awesome and would show everyone out there what can happen if you are driven and decide to be the best. Good for them!!!! Go Crush!

Clown statement.......and I was rooting for 91 yesterday. try to score 50 goals makes u the best? I think if u beat a team by ten maybe twelve goals you can still prove your dominance while taking your foot off the gas late in the game with a big lead. you sucked in youth sports as a kid I'm sure. SUCKED

I was hoping they scored 60! Perhaps then, the we're better than thou crowd from MD would stop supporting a club like the Crabs, that cheats in "youth sports". The only way they beat this team two weeks ago was to play kids from an older team that probably were holdbacks on that team. Most likely two tears older... Why are you not up in arms about that? Crush was playing for all of LI. LI teams don't holdback or reclass and still can play with the best from anywhere. The record now shows, when you enforce some rules the best from MD just simply can't compete.... It's the very reason you all reclass and hold back, because you believe the same thing! Those boys from LI just confirmed what you, and we, have always known. MD teams play down because they can't compete!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really cannot believe that 91 didn't play everyone today. The game wasn't close. I don't get it.

Wait. There are some kids on the team that didn't even see the field? That is ridiculous. They won the game convincingly. Everyone on that that should have at least played a full quarter, particularly because it wouldn't have affected the outcome. All of those parents paid good money and should have had a good experience playing time wise for their kids.

I saw Spallina played his kid the entire game, it seemed, so that is also ridiculous. But if there were kids who were on the bench the entire time, that is indefensible.

Can anyone confirm this? I hope this isn't true.

I watched the game and I know for a fact one player only was in for one single face off, he played the wing. The Faceoff kid won the face off, ran down and scored and the little wing player came right off never to go in again. Another little player went into the same for the last minute of the game on attack. I am almost certain there were others that barely played. I just cannot imagine the mentality behind it

That is horrible. Spallina is a scumbag.

I am pretty sure (with about 1:30 left in the game) he came to the bench and asking if anyone didn't play, because one little boy raised his hand, that is when he went in on attack

That shows a guy who is not there for the kids (or more accurately, he is there for HIS kid and his kid only). It's not hard to figure out playing time, especially when Team 91 was comfortably in control for most of the game. This is not a tournament 10 minutes from their practice field. All of those parents paid a lot of money to fly out to CO and to give a kid only 1 minute when the team is playing on national TV?

Team 91 parents - how can you defend this?

Here's the plain truth. In any team (college, HS or club) there are only 15-17 real players. The rest are there to support the school tuition or in this case club fees. What's not so obvious and very hush hush is that the very best players are enticed and incentivised (quietly of course) to join the team for less than the full retail price and sometimes even for free. The other half of the team are the suckers that are drawn in by the false prestige of being included but the truth is they are selected for their checkbooks only with no intention of receiving field time during the toughest and most important games such as yesterday. Instead, the money subsidizers who pay full retail price are placated with playing time during the easiest and least visible games and are lulled into a false sense of belonging and inclusion. Those are the realities of elite and not even elite club, private school and college teams.

One should not scrutinize others for not playing in game , maybe they are happy with the enormous training that their son gets 6 days a week , that's not anyone's business but the kid and parents , I am sure majority would think and consider differ , but for the few who have been involved in this team for many years , they have become accustomed to being practice meat for the select starters. The experience being offered by JS and NOT the 91 organization regardless , would never be compared by any other club team in the country as he has given these kids a chance of a lifetime juggling his busy schedule to fine tune a talented group of athletes .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really cannot believe that 91 didn't play everyone today. The game wasn't close. I don't get it.

Wait. There are some kids on the team that didn't even see the field? That is ridiculous. They won the game convincingly. Everyone on that that should have at least played a full quarter, particularly because it wouldn't have affected the outcome. All of those parents paid good money and should have had a good experience playing time wise for their kids.

I saw Spallina played his kid the entire game, it seemed, so that is also ridiculous. But if there were kids who were on the bench the entire time, that is indefensible.

Can anyone confirm this? I hope this isn't true.

I watched the game and I know for a fact one player only was in for one single face off, he played the wing. The Faceoff kid won the face off, ran down and scored and the little wing player came right off never to go in again. Another little player went into the same for the last minute of the game on attack. I am almost certain there were others that barely played. I just cannot imagine the mentality behind it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where was the Express in all this? Have they dropped off the face of the earth in this age group? Not long ago they used to dominate this age. Even their older teams are a lot less competitive than they used to be. What's going on there?

They were at Legacy Invitational. Not every team was invited, they tried to spread out the teams across the nation. Express 2020 Team 1 is a very good team.

Here's how it will go in a couple of years. The Express owner will approach a 91 Crush kid and say "Hey, you know I make the selections for the Long Island Under Armour team. Why don't you and a bunch of your Crush teammates come over to the Express and we'll recreate a super team. You'll also have a pretty good chance of making the Under Armour team. Wink, wink. Bank it now.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]I
I saw Spallina played his kid the entire game, it seemed, so that is also ridiculous. But if there were kids who were on the bench the entire time, that is indefensible.

Can anyone confirm this? I hope this isn't true.

I watched the game and I know for a fact one player only was in for one single face off, he played the wing. The Faceoff kid won the face off, ran down and scored and the little wing player came right off never to go in again. Another little player went into the same for the last minute of the game on attack. I am almost certain there were others that barely played. I just cannot imagine the mentality behind it

That is horrible. Spallina is a scumbag.

I am pretty sure (with about 1:30 left in the game) he came to the bench and asking if anyone didn't play, because one little boy raised his hand, that is when he went in on attack

That shows a guy who is not there for the kids (or more accurately, he is there for HIS kid and his kid only). It's not hard to figure out playing time, especially when Team 91 was comfortably in control for most of the game. This is not a tournament 10 minutes from their practice field. All of those parents paid a lot of money to fly out to CO and to give a kid only 1 minute when the team is playing on national TV?

Team 91 parents - how can you defend this?

Here's the plain truth. In any team (college, HS or club) there are only 15-17 real players. The rest are there to support the school tuition or in this case club fees. What's not so obvious and very hush hush is that the very best players are enticed and incentivised (quietly of course) to join the team for less than the full retail price and sometimes even for free. The other half of the team are the suckers that are drawn in by the false prestige of being included but the truth is they are selected for their checkbooks only with no intention of receiving field time during the toughest and most important games such as yesterday. Instead, the money subsidizers who pay full retail price are placated with playing time during the easiest and least visible games and are lulled into a false sense of belonging and inclusion. Those are the realities of elite and not even elite club, private school and college teams.

really no defending the lack of field time for some kids when your team is up by 10. I not saying there should be equal time on the field, but with a large lead everybody should have received plenty of minutes. The 91 coach wanted to pad his ego with a relentless slaughter of the crabs which are becoming an endangered species.

Rumor has it, after the game the Crabs coaches called FCA and asked them to remember them in their evening prayers and huddles.

All over Twitter and various blogs this morning, Spallina is being hailed a champion of the potential of youth lax. His 91 empire will now go into orbit and along with it his financial fortune. You could not have scripted it better with yesterday's win on national TV which has layed the foundation for a money printing club juggernaught. Express is toast now. If I were Jamie Munro I'd buy 91 before it's too late.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All over Twitter and various blogs this morning, Spallina is being hailed a champion of the potential of youth lax. His 91 empire will now go into orbit and along with it his financial fortune. You could not have scripted it better with yesterday's win on national TV which has layed the foundation for a money printing club juggernaught. Express is toast now. If I were Jamie Munro I'd buy 91 before it's too late.

not to mention what it will do for 91 MD!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All over Twitter and various blogs this morning, Spallina is being hailed a champion of the potential of youth lax. His 91 empire will now go into orbit and along with it his financial fortune. You could not have scripted it better with yesterday's win on national TV which has layed the foundation for a money printing club juggernaught. Express is toast now. If I were Jamie Munro I'd buy 91 before it's too late.

If Jamie Munro was smart he would have bought them a couple of days ago. I'm sure it stings that 91 was so dominant in his own back yard while his 3D Colorado team was really a non-factor. Ouch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All over Twitter and various blogs this morning, Spallina is being hailed a champion of the potential of youth lax. His 91 empire will now go into orbit and along with it his financial fortune. You could not have scripted it better with yesterday's win on national TV which has layed the foundation for a money printing club juggernaught. Express is toast now. If I were Jamie Munro I'd buy 91 before it's too late.

Based on yesterdays outcome it's hard to argue otherwise that the future of the sport is still firmly in the grasp of the traditional hotbeds.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All over Twitter and various blogs this morning, Spallina is being hailed a champion of the potential of youth lax. His 91 empire will now go into orbit and along with it his financial fortune. You could not have scripted it better with yesterday's win on national TV which has layed the foundation for a money printing club juggernaught. Express is toast now. If I were Jamie Munro I'd buy 91 before it's too late.

If Jamie Munro was smart he would have bought them a couple of days ago. I'm sure it stings that 91 was so dominant in his own back yard while his 3D Colorado team was really a non-factor. Ouch.

Another guy whose team's success is extremely handicapped when rules such as a birth certificates are enforced. Why do you think teams like Laxachusettes and Dukes weren't there? They know they'd have no shot at winning. (see Son's record) It would have exposed their clubs weakness, just like the Crabs and 3d. I would venture to say two or three more 2020 LI teams could have made it to the finals with Crush not there. (they are the best, clearly) No I'm not a 91 guy.

speaking of Spallina......what d*ck leaves his kid on the field the whole game? friggin daddy ball at its best. I also saw kids on that team who flew all the way to Denver and never got on the field. to the parents of those kids.....I hope you're not ok with watching a game on July 4th in Denver, Colorado and your kid never once saw the field. you must be on the Forbes list if you drop that kind of money and your kid doesn't play at all in games. Spallina is a tool. subbed sporadically a kid here or there in dribs and drabs. I see his kid never left the field. daddy ball forever youth lacrosse coach of the year. yeah ok

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the final score? Did they call the game at half?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush beating up good on the 21s of Carolina. 23-2 at the half.

Not sure if it was a typo or intentional to stir the pot, but halftime score was only 13-2. Final was 25-3.

Ok. That is much better. Feel like a tough beating teams up by 23 goals?

I think they should try to score 50 today on national TV. It would be awesome and would show everyone out there what can happen if you are driven and decide to be the best. Good for them!!!! Go Crush!

Clown statement.......and I was krooting for 91 yesterday. try to score 50 goals makes u the best? I think if u beat a team by ten maybe twelve goals you can still prove your dominance while taking your foot off the gas late in the game with a big lead. you sucked in youth sports as a kid I'm sure. SUCKED

I read someone else was rooting for 60. I love that guy and I guess he sucked in HS too! Lol! I'll tell you this, I was rooting for 20 just because that number would cause such anger. You think Spallina and 91 care what you think, I certainly don't, and I'll tell you this, I can't wait until my son and then my daughter get a chance to be coached by him and his organization!

Boohoo - your kid never saw the field because he is not a good as the players who were on the field. I'm from Maryland and this was clearly 91s smack down on the crabs because of the beach lax episode. I wish it was even more lopsided than it was. Crabs without holdbacks are nothing special. Spallinas kid is pretty darn good - fun to watch.

Not a fan or opponent of Spallina, but all of his teams have great success. Some moves he makes are suspect I agree w that. But people hate success for others and especially this team. It is reminiscent of a team a few years older that had similiar success and was despised. As far as Daddy ball, I personally think it's that if a kid doesn't belong on the field but when his son leads the tournament in point scoring and scores six goals in the championship against the Crabs that eliminates the daddy ball. These are young boys that are extremely talented and represented LI lacrosse on national TV vs Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a fan or opponent of Spallina, but all of his teams have great success. Some moves he makes are suspect I agree w that. But people hate success for others and especially this team. It is reminiscent of a team a few years older that had similiar success and was despised. As far as Daddy ball, I personally think it's that if a kid doesn't belong on the field but when his son leads the tournament in point scoring and scores six goals in the championship against the Crabs that eliminates the daddy ball. These are young boys that are extremely talented and represented LI lacrosse on national TV vs Maryland.

of course his kid leads the tournament in scoring he never comes off the field c'mon stop it. I don't despise success. I'm thrilled for long island and them beating that hillbilly parents crabs team. was tired of listening to them on here with the Guido remarks. glad 91 won it. let's not get it twisted. I just think Joe Spallina is the king of all [lacrosse] bags

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Boohoo - your kid never saw the field because he is not a good as the players who were on the field. I'm from Maryland and this was clearly 91s smack down on the crabs because of the beach lax episode. I wish it was even more lopsided than it was. Crabs without holdbacks are nothing special. Spallinas kid is pretty darn good - fun to watch.

my kid doesn't play for 91

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I really cannot believe that 91 didn't play everyone today. The game wasn't close. I don't get it.

Wait. There are some kids on the team that didn't even see the field? That is ridiculous. They won the game convincingly. Everyone on that that should have at least played a full quarter, particularly because it wouldn't have affected the outcome. All of those parents paid good money and should have had a good experience playing time wise for their kids.

I saw Spallina played his kid the entire game, it seemed, so that is also ridiculous. But if there were kids who were on the bench the entire time, that is indefensible.

Can anyone confirm this? I hope this isn't true.

I watched the game and I know for a fact one player only was in for one single face off, he played the wing. The Faceoff kid won the face off, ran down and scored and the little wing player came right off never to go in again. Another little player went into the same for the last minute of the game on attack. I am almost certain there were others that barely played. I just cannot imagine the mentality behind it

That is horrible. Spallina is a scumbag.

I am pretty sure (with about 1:30 left in the game) he came to the bench and asking if anyone didn't play, because one little boy raised his hand, that is when he went in on attack

That shows a guy who is not there for the kids (or more accurately, he is there for HIS kid and his kid only). It's not hard to figure out playing time, especially when Team 91 was comfortably in control for most of the game. This is not a tournament 10 minutes from their practice field. All of those parents paid a lot of money to fly out to CO and to give a kid only 1 minute when the team is playing on national TV?

Team 91 parents - how can you defend this?

Nothing to defend, this is not u9 rec ball where everyone needs to feel good and have their confidence built up. This is elite club ball, you play to win, which means you field the best team you can given the situation. Stop trying to make an issue out of something that isn't.

for the guy who said he can't wait for his kids to play for Joe Spallina.......that's what would make your life relevant again I assume right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All over Twitter and various blogs this morning, Spallina is being hailed a champion of the potential of youth lax. His 91 empire will now go into orbit and along with it his financial fortune. You could not have scripted it better with yesterday's win on national TV which has layed the foundation for a money printing club juggernaught. Express is toast now. If I were Jamie Munro I'd buy 91 before it's too late.

This is just silly. A few years ago Express had the Turtles, in 2021 you have Igloo. 91 is is surely a successful program but there are only so many roster spots on its A team. There will always be kids who dont make their A team or see little playing time and jump to another teams A and are the stars their.Crush winning is good publicity, but anyone in the lax world on LI has known about this team for years. 91 also cannot offer the connections you get from going to Chamminade. Of course they will continue to be the big dog along with Express. Plenty of money to go around. You still have OUtlaws and Legacy is new with how many teams ? Throw in Igloos and Recons. Crushes victory will have minimal impact on the landscape. Now of the Island it may help 91s programs grow

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That shows a guy who is not there for the kids (or more accurately, he is there for HIS kid and his kid only). It's not hard to figure out playing time, especially when Team 91 was comfortably in control for most of the game. This is not a tournament 10 minutes from their practice field. All of those parents paid a lot of money to fly out to CO and to give a kid only 1 minute when the team is playing on national TV?

Team 91 parents - how can you defend this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing to defend, this is not u9 rec ball where everyone needs to feel good and have their confidence built up. This is elite club ball, you play to win, which means you field the best team you can given the situation. Stop trying to make an issue out of something that isn't.

People like you are ruining youth lacrosse because you accept Joe's tactics and actions and endorse them. You play as an entire team. When you are up by double digits you empty the bench and play EVERYONE. Every one of those kids paid to be there - their parents paid to be there - it's just classless to keep the same kids in and not only keep them in, but let them keep scoring. Just wrong and their is no defense for it.

Just proves LI is still king of lacrosse

Both teams yesterday had a bunch of players that played the entire game. This isn't rec lacrosse. Just like HS teams, college teams and most other travel teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All over Twitter and various blogs this morning, Spallina is being hailed a champion of the potential of youth lax. His 91 empire will now go into orbit and along with it his financial fortune. You could not have scripted it better with yesterday's win on national TV which has layed the foundation for a money printing club juggernaught. Express is toast now. If I were Jamie Munro I'd buy 91 before it's too late.

This is just silly. A few years ago Express had the Turtles, in 2021 you have Igloo. 91 is is surely a successful program but there are only so many roster spots on its A team. There will always be kids who dont make their A team or see little playing time and jump to another teams A and are the stars their.Crush winning is good publicity, but anyone in the lax world on LI has known about this team for years. 91 also cannot offer the connections you get from going to Chamminade. Of course they will continue to be the big dog along with Express. Plenty of money to go around. You still have OUtlaws and Legacy is new with how many teams ? Throw in Igloos and Recons. Crushes victory will have minimal impact on the landscape. Now of the Island it may help 91s programs grow

Who said that some of the CRUSH kids are not going to end up at Chaminade? I would think some would end up there , some St As and some public school. All teams have kids going to different schools.

This will be a one and done for this event. It needs to be 8 teams from the northeast corridor and a couple of others that have proven themselves in more than regional play.

I am also dying to know what special instructions were given to the kids before the championship game. Crush was not as physical as i remember.

" 91 also cannot offer the connections you get from going to Chamminade"

U seriously believe that?

Recruiting for lacrosse is by tournament exposure. Not HS teams. Hasn't been for years.

Kids are being recruited long before setting foot on HS teams

I am the biggest proponent of playing all kids, but only the last game was on TV. How do we know who played or who didn't play during the earlier games. Its not as if the team flew out there for just the game that was televised.

I have no knowledge how 91 operates. It would not surprise me if they were very up front and explicit about playing time for their teams, especially the high end ones that carry the banner for the organization - something like "we expect playing time to be unequal, and at times exceedingly so. If you want your child to be on a team where everyone plays the same amount of minutes, this is not the team for you."

Also, I watched the game. Although the score was lopsided, I thought the game itself was competitive, meaning 91 had to work for what they got.

This team markets itself as the best in the world at this age group. You join it at your peril. If your kid rides the bench, there are a million teams out there that play at a high level, access to college coaches etc. Just leave and go elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That shows a guy who is not there for the kids (or more accurately, he is there for HIS kid and his kid only). It's not hard to figure out playing time, especially when Team 91 was comfortably in control for most of the game. This is not a tournament 10 minutes from their practice field. All of those parents paid a lot of money to fly out to CO and to give a kid only 1 minute when the team is playing on national TV?

Team 91 parents - how can you defend this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing to defend, this is not u9 rec ball where everyone needs to feel good and have their confidence built up. This is elite club ball, you play to win, which means you field the best team you can given the situation. Stop trying to make an issue out of something that isn't.

People like you are ruining youth lacrosse because you accept Joe's tactics and actions and endorse them. You play as an entire team. When you are up by double digits you empty the bench and play EVERYONE. Every one of those kids paid to be there - their parents paid to be there - it's just classless to keep the same kids in and not only keep them in, but let them keep scoring. Just wrong and their is no defense for it.

The only way this is ok is if Spallina was upfront at the very beginning of creating the team that there will be a lot of kids that don't see the field in big games. If that was stated up front and parents still signed up, then there is no issue. However, if the pitch was that everybody would see the field for equal exposure, then thats a big time F-up and I'd ask for my money back + air fare.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That shows a guy who is not there for the kids (or more accurately, he is there for HIS kid and his kid only). It's not hard to figure out playing time, especially when Team 91 was comfortably in control for most of the game. This is not a tournament 10 minutes from their practice field. All of those parents paid a lot of money to fly out to CO and to give a kid only 1 minute when the team is playing on national TV?

Team 91 parents - how can you defend this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nothing to defend, this is not u9 rec ball where everyone needs to feel good and have their confidence built up. This is elite club ball, you play to win, which means you field the best team you can given the situation. Stop trying to make an issue out of something that isn't.

People like you are ruining youth lacrosse because you accept Joe's tactics and actions and endorse them. You play as an entire team. When you are up by double digits you empty the bench and play EVERYONE. Every one of those kids paid to be there - their parents paid to be there - it's just classless to keep the same kids in and not only keep them in, but let them keep scoring. Just wrong and their is no defense for it.

Those kids/parents on 91 know what they are signing up for, I don't think any of them are looking to jump just to get a little more playing time and I would imagine that many kids would be happy to ride the bench once in a while just to be part of that program. That game was about putting as many points on the Crabs as possible, I don't think there is anyone in Nassau county who would have problem with that. Some of us in Maryland are fine with it as well.

For those that are not fans of the Express club and it's most visible owner, yesterday was a good day. We know he's laughing all the way to the bank but to have his butt kicked at UA underclass and then have his biggest club rival win on national tv all within 24 hours must have been two tough ego pills to swallow, especially for a competitive maniac. Again, all the way to the bank.

If the game vs Crabs was hotly contested, then I get some kids getting very little playing time.

That game was over by the middle of the 3rd, if not earlier. No excuse not to play kids at least 1/2 of the 4th.

That was about trying to get a double digit win vs the Crabs, not honoring the kids on your club who aren't as good as the starters.

Spallina is a scumbag, and you LI people defending them are just as bad as some of the other parents who post here. Zero class.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If the game vs Crabs was hotly contested, then I get some kids getting very little playing time.

That game was over by the middle of the 3rd, if not earlier. No excuse not to play kids at least 1/2 of the 4th.

That was about trying to get a double digit win vs the Crabs, not honoring the kids on your club who aren't as good as the starters.

Spallina is a scumbag, and you LI people defending them are just as bad as some of the other parents who post here. Zero class.

Not sure if you are Crabs parent just trying to stir the pot, if so, I'm pretty sure that some of your kids never saw the field during the 91 game at beach lax.

If not, then why do you care? I'm sure every one of those kids was willing to do whatever it took to crack the crabs, even if that meant sitting it out.

I don't think any of us are qualified to second guess the most successful coach in 2020, all you folks are doing is throwing rocks.

You may disagree with his methods but you can't argue with the results and at this level that's what a counts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both teams yesterday had a bunch of players that played the entire game. This isn't rec lacrosse. Just like HS teams, college teams and most other travel teams.

No, it's not. Winning an important college or HS game is one thing. Winning a must win game in a tournament (HS or youth) is another.

This was a game of 12 year old boys, and the game wasn't in doubt for most of the 2nd half. That team flew to CO from NY. Playing a kid only for the last 60 seconds?

Indefensible.

Love the Maryland people throwing stones. Lizards beat the Bayhawks and Crush smashed the Crabs. Good weekend for LI the Kings of lacrosse Sorry MD Probably have another club or two that could beat the crabs as well. Maybe register your 2020's in the 2022 bracket Now that's Maryland!!

Yes Channy is good at stealing players , it must be those large teeth he has that entices its .more like trurh of the matter is Express lost steam the last few years , people are tired of that smile and stab in back mentality , MC will be going to 91 directly soon enough looking for an offer to buy his Brand name that is tarnished so much from being such as scumbag . .

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where was the Express in all this? Have they dropped off the face of the earth in this age group? Not long ago they used to dominate this age. Even their older teams are a lot less competitive than they used to be. What's going on there?

They were at Legacy Invitational. Not every team was invited, they tried to spread out the teams across the nation. Express 2020 Team 1 is a very good team.

Here's how it will go in a couple of years. The Express owner will approach a 91 Crush kid and say "Hey, you know I make the selections for the Long Island Under Armour team. Why don't you and a bunch of your Crush teammates come over to the Express and we'll recreate a super team. You'll also have a pretty good chance of making the Under Armour team. Wink, wink. Bank it now. [/quote]

This is what makes sports so competitive and interesting in this country. We have 13 year olds playing for a national championship on TV . Plus the chatter about scumbag coaches, playing time, cheating, holdbacks,etc all in the name of getting a U13 Championship!! Hopefully we see a repeat of the Tan Ones from Long Island against the Toothless Hillbillies from MD!!

Cant wait until next Year!! And Yes I am jealous that I cant live my youth again thru my son!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both teams yesterday had a bunch of players that played the entire game. This isn't rec lacrosse. Just like HS teams, college teams and most other travel teams.

No, it's not. Winning an important college or HS game is one thing. Winning a must win game in a tournament (HS or youth) is another.

This was a game of 12 year old boys, and the game wasn't in doubt for most of the 2nd half. That team flew to CO from NY. Playing a kid only for the last 60 seconds?

Indefensible.

The team played 5 games over a 3 day period prior to the game that was on tv. Why do you insist on ignoring these games. Regarding kids who played little to no minutes in the championship, how much did they play in these 5 other games?

I get that people believe that everyone should have played more than they did. You are entitled to this opinion. Just please don't distort the facts by stating, or implying, that they flew all the way to Colorado for only one game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes Channy is good at stealing players , it must be those large teeth he has that entices its .more like trurh of the matter is Express lost steam the last few years , people are tired of that smile and stab in back mentality , MC will be going to 91 directly soon enough looking for an offer to buy his Brand name that is tarnished so much from being such as scumbag . .

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where was the Express in all this? Have they dropped off the face of the earth in this age group? Not long ago they used to dominate this age. Even their older teams are a lot less competitive than they used to be. What's going on there?

They were at Legacy Invitational. Not every team was invited, they tried to spread out the teams across the nation. Express 2020 Team 1 is a very good team.

Here's how it will go in a couple of years. The Express owner will approach a 91 Crush kid and say "Hey, you know I make the selections for the Long Island Under Armour team. Why don't you and a bunch of your Crush teammates come over to the Express and we'll recreate a super team. You'll also have a pretty good chance of making the Under Armour team. Wink, wink. Bank it now.

[/quote]That'd be a [lacrosse] maneuver. but then again there's a lot of huge [lacrosse] bags coaching these big club teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Love the Maryland people throwing stones. Lizards beat the Bayhawks and Crush smashed the Crabs. Good weekend for LI the Kings of lacrosse Sorry MD Probably have another club or two that could beat the crabs as well. Maybe register your 2020's in the 2022 bracket Now that's Maryland!!

There are lots of MD folks celebrating Crush's victory, which is a very good thing with 91 now expanding into Maryland. All of this "strong island" garbage makes us want to rethink that.

Win with grace and humility, lead by example = class.

If Steinfeld (guy who is behind the World Series for lacrosse) is trying to model this after Williamsport, Little league, better have a better plan than what was displayed; minimum play rules are strictly enforced. If he is shooting for Cooperstown model, then its who ever has the biggest wallet to afford to attend and the best play majority of games expensive for families to attend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes Channy is good at stealing players , it must be those large teeth he has that entices its .more like trurh of the matter is Express lost steam the last few years , people are tired of that smile and stab in back mentality , MC will be going to 91 directly soon enough looking for an offer to buy his Brand name that is tarnished so much from being such as scumbag . .

quote=Anonymous]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where was the Express in all this? Have they dropped off the face of the earth in this age group? Not long ago they used to dominate this age. Even their older teams are a lot less competitive than they used to be. What's going on there?

They were at Legacy Invitational. Not every team was invited, they tried to spread out the teams across the nation. Express 2020 Team 1 is a very good team.

Here's how it will go in a couple of years. The Express owner will approach a 91 Crush kid and say "Hey, you know I make the selections for the Long Island Under Armour team. Why don't you and a bunch of your Crush teammates come over to the Express and we'll recreate a super team. You'll also have a pretty good chance of making the Under Armour team. Wink, wink. Bank it now.

That'd be a [lacrosse] maneuver. but then again there's a lot of huge [lacrosse] bags coaching these big club teams [/quote]

91 would do the same if they could

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If the game vs Crabs was hotly contested, then I get some kids getting very little playing time.

That game was over by the middle of the 3rd, if not earlier. No excuse not to play kids at least 1/2 of the 4th.

That was about trying to get a double digit win vs the Crabs, not honoring the kids on your club who aren't as good as the starters.

Spallina is a scumbag, and you LI people defending them are just as bad as some of the other parents who post here. Zero class.

Not sure if you are Crabs parent just trying to stir the pot, if so, I'm pretty sure that some of your kids never saw the field during the 91 game at beach lax.

If not, then why do you care? I'm sure every one of those kids was willing to do whatever it took to crack the crabs, even if that meant sitting it out.

I don't think any of us are qualified to second guess the most successful coach in 2020, all you folks are doing is throwing rocks.

You may disagree with his methods but you can't argue with the results and at this level that's what a counts.

If sitting kids out nearly the entire game who flew from NY was the only way to ensure a championship, most people would understand.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

If Steinfeld (guy who is behind the World Series for lacrosse) is trying to model this after Williamsport, Little league, better have a better plan than what was displayed; minimum play rules are strictly enforced. If he is shooting for Cooperstown model, then its who ever has the biggest wallet to afford to attend and the best play majority of games expensive for families to attend.

that body by Jake guy is a tool. Try anything to stay relevant

I find it interesting when someone commits to coaching a team and spending hours upon hours of coaching and training and when he does something for his kid he is vilified. Stop being the Monday morning coach. How about the sacrifices he makes. He doesn't see his other kids because he is coaching yours. This is travel lacrosse people!! Competitive travel lacrosse and some play more than others its that plain and simple. Stop with the crying. He brings the best coaches and players around these kids creating a winning environment. Sooo many players will be dying to tryout for Crush this year. Congratulations Crush and 91.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am the biggest proponent of playing all kids, but only the last game was on TV. How do we know who played or who didn't play during the earlier games. Its not as if the team flew out there for just the game that was televised.

I have no knowledge how 91 operates. It would not surprise me if they were very up front and explicit about playing time for their teams, especially the high end ones that carry the banner for the organization - something like "we expect playing time to be unequal, and at times exceedingly so. If you want your child to be on a team where everyone plays the same amount of minutes, this is not the team for you."

Also, I watched the game. Although the score was lopsided, I thought the game itself was competitive, meaning 91 had to work for what they got.

This team markets itself as the best in the world at this age group. You join it at your peril. If your kid rides the bench, there are a million teams out there that play at a high level, access to college coaches etc. Just leave and go elsewhere.

If this "team" is really the best, then all of the players should be playing. And, as far as the other games go, the same kids played very little in those games too.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]If the game vs Crabs was hotly contested, then I get some kids getting very little playing time.

That game was over by the middle of the 3rd, if not earlier. No excuse not to play kids at least 1/2 of the 4th.

That was about trying to get a double digit win vs the Crabs, not honoring the kids on your club who aren't as good as the starters.

Spallina is a scumbag, and you LI people defending them are just as bad as some of the other parents who post here. Zero class.

Not sure if you are Crabs parent just trying to stir the pot, if so, I'm pretty sure that some of your kids never saw the field during the 91 game at beach lax.

If not, then why do you care? I'm sure every one of those kids was willing to do whatever it took to crack the crabs, even if that meant sitting it out.

I don't think any of us are qualified to second guess the most successful coach in 2020, all you folks are doing is throwing rocks.

You may disagree with his methods but you can't argue with the results and at this level that's what a counts.

If sitting kids out nearly the entire game who flew from NY was the only way to ensure a championship, most people would understand.

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I am not from 91 or Crabs, but was at the game yesterday. I just still cannot believe that when 91 was up by that much that some players on their team barely saw the field. Classless. The coaches should be ashamed of themselves. I could totally understand if it was a right game, but it wasn't.

I agree with poster above. The purpose of that game was to show the nation who the best team is PERIOD. This ain't rec ball. I was pleased to see the crabs get their comeuppance. You can bet if the crabs had won (laugh) it would be all over their website and Twitter. All I hear is silence.

DELETED!!!!! family who paid for a cross-country trip see their son play more than 60 seconds in a game that was over by halftime.

You are crossing the line.. knock it off NOW!

Insane the amount of jealous people that come on here to stir the pot. Use that energy with your own son and maybe you would have nothing to be jealous about

I love the "I'm not from crush or crabs " but I know everything that happened and was tracking the substitutions of a U13 game That is really sad

FYI coaches don't pick who goes to press conference media picks who they want to speak with, but how would you know that lol. One would guess he was picked due to his performance which if you watched the game even a simple minded person could see that, so if you watched the press conference them you watched the game. Not a huge fan of Crush. But this is not rec ball. Even playing time and all that is not the travel model. Ok to critique but let's be realistic

Sorry to bust your bubble , because the kid is in 5th grade entering 6th ,some forget to mention he was held back early on in elementary and he is 12 . Give credit when it's do he should be entering 7th grade , he is ultra talented in every aspect of the game , trying to fool people in thinking he is younger then he is doesn't make any change in his capabilities. Playing a year up is standard for many kids .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I hope you all know that DELETED son is two years younger than everyone on that team. Makes it even more special and just imagine the beatings he puts up with when crush plays up while he is already playing up two years.
Yikes! Good for him though!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]If the game vs Crabs was hotly contested, then I get some kids getting very little playing time.

That game was over by the middle of the 3rd, if not earlier. No excuse not to play kids at least 1/2 of the 4th.

That was about trying to get a double digit win vs the Crabs, not honoring the kids on your club who aren't as good as the starters.

Spallina is a scumbag, and you LI people defending them are just as bad as some of the other parents who post here. Zero class.

Not sure if you are Crabs parent just trying to stir the pot, if so, I'm pretty sure that some of your kids never saw the field during the 91 game at beach lax.

If not, then why do you care? I'm sure every one of those kids was willing to do whatever it took to crack the crabs, even if that meant sitting it out.

I don't think any of us are qualified to second guess the most successful coach in 2020, all you folks are doing is throwing rocks.

You may disagree with his methods but you can't argue with the results and at this level that's what a counts.

If sitting kids out nearly the entire game who flew from NY was the only way to ensure a championship, most people would understand.

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I am not from 91 or Crabs, but was at the game yesterday. I just still cannot believe that when 91 was up by that much that some players on their team barely saw the field. Classless. The coaches should be ashamed of themselves. I could totally understand if it was a right game, but it wasn't.

Also not a crab or 91 parent but when you play high level club, there are no guarantees of play time. Who knows what the parental expectations are within their Club. None of our business. FYI...crabs did not play all of their boys either not do they when they are leading a game at home. Stop trying to stir up trouble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Insane the amount of jealous people that come on here to stir the pot. Use that energy with your own son and maybe you would have nothing to be jealous about

Best post I have seen so far today!! Someone with a brain.

I wished more coaches sat kids instead of playing everyone "fairly". That doesn't send a message to work hard either. Sick of it... I don't pay to have my son sit when he is one of the top kids. You pay and hope your kid gets to play you know that going in.

Not a 91 or crabs parent but a LI parent.

Appreciate the moderators cleaning this thread up and I agree that was the best post on here in awhile!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Appreciate the moderators cleaning this thread up and I agree that was the best post on here in awhile!!

What makes me crazy is that these are anonymous "adults" talking about a CHILD!!! How would they like people talking about their child? It is truly disgusting..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am the biggest proponent of playing all kids, but only the last game was on TV. How do we know who played or who didn't play during the earlier games. Its not as if the team flew out there for just the game that was televised.

I have no knowledge how 91 operates. It would not surprise me if they were very up front and explicit about playing time for their teams, especially the high end ones that carry the banner for the organization - something like "we expect playing time to be unequal, and at times exceedingly so. If you want your child to be on a team where everyone plays the same amount of minutes, this is not the team for you."

Also, I watched the game. Although the score was lopsided, I thought the game itself was competitive, meaning 91 had to work for what they got.

This team markets itself as the best in the world at this age group. You join it at your peril. If your kid rides the bench, there are a million teams out there that play at a high level, access to college coaches etc. Just leave and go elsewhere.

If this "team" is really the best, then all of the players should be playing. And, as far as the other games go, the same kids played very little in those games too.

What planet do you live on? This is not rec ball and every parent in club ball knows the deal. If they want to complain to their coach on behalf of their kid, then so be it or novel approach, they can choose toe leave the team. But all the armchair quarterbacks with no coaching experience should butt out. It does not affect you or child unlike the teams that openly cheat to win. That involves everyone.

Really sad. But great to see it's being dealt with Larry

The right thing for him to do is to cut those kids that he couldn't find field time for yesterday and try to find kids that he can have confidence in putting on the field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really sad. But great to see it's being dealt with Larry

Please let me know if I missed anything OR if something gets past us.. Thanks..

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really sad. But great to see it's being dealt with Larry

Please let me know if I missed anything OR if something gets past us.. Thanks..

You guys do a great job of keeping all of us Loonies...um ,make that crazies, in check.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really sad. But great to see it's being dealt with Larry

Please let me know if I missed anything OR if something gets past us.. Thanks..

You guys do a great job of keeping all of us Loonies...um ,make that crazies, in check.

Most of you are wonderful.. The handful that are not and post and then reply to their posts.. lol

This thread tells the rest of us what Long Island is all about. Terrible diction, insulting parents and no regard for others.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This thread tells the rest of us what Long Island is all about. Terrible diction, insulting parents and no regard for others.

Basically Masters of the Lacrosse Universe.

Spallina should be ashamed of himself. No excuse for only giving some kids 60 seconds on the field for a game that was decided well before the 4th quarter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Spallina should be ashamed of himself. No excuse for only giving some kids 60 seconds on the field for a game that was decided well before the 4th quarter.

Haven't read a complaint from a Crush parent yet - why does everybody else care so much? I'm guessing they knew what to expect going in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This thread tells the rest of us what Long Island is all about. Terrible diction, insulting parents and no regard for others.

The rest of us? Who would that be?
Could you mean.....

The ridiculous MD and VA parents who scream like lunatics at Refs, players and other teams parents then claim to be oh so refined?

Or is it the Canadian parents who nearly had a brawl with every single teams coaches and parents at this weekends Best of the Best tournament in Garden City?

Perhaps you meant the PA and MA parents and coaches who routinely play their kids DOWN and boast about the practice.

I'll take the tatoos and occasional grammar issues that you claim are the trademarks of LI parents over the folks mentioned above any day. Keep in mind that although LI'ers may argue and insult each other over issues we are passionate about, we are unified against stuck up opinionated and pompous people like you.

Ok. So can someone explain. If this is the "World" series Youth Lacrosse what other countries were there? I only see US teams that were "invited". Is it me?

Thank you for monitoring this thread Larry LarryMiller should only be issue based no attacks on people especially if it's coming from Maryland haha. Too much hatred from people. Funny how you said they post and respond to themselves lolol like an internet way of talking to yourself lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

for the guy who said he can't wait for his kids to play for Joe Spallina.......that's what would make your life relevant again I assume right?

Nope, just want my kids to be exposed to excellence, at home and at play!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

for the guy who said he can't wait for his kids to play for Joe Spallina.......that's what would make your life relevant again I assume right?

Nope, just want my kids to be exposed to excellence, at home and at play!

I guess you will suck up ,pay a little extra to make sure he gets on his team...Money talks so go for it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fact that most people on this board want the crush to lose says it all. It's almost over. Next summer it becomes an individual free for all.

Actually, Crush had more fans than they realize for that game. Although they are not very humble and some of their on field behavior needs toning down and a lot of their parents are way over the top and obnoxious, they do not cheat. Crabs has made all Maryland teams look bad by their hold back behavior and most Marylanders resent that. Crush has worked hard to develop their skill.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok. So can someone explain. If this is the "World" series Youth Lacrosse what other countries were there? I only see US teams that were "invited". Is it me?

According to interview with Body by Jake, there are plans to add 6 international teams in the next year or two. Of course he also said these were the top 10 teams in the country for this age when anyone who follows this age even a little bit knows that the top 10 would all be from the MidAtlantic states up through New England. So he is more than a bit of an exaggerator and self promoter but it is a very cool idea if it can truly be done correctly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

for the guy who said he can't wait for his kids to play for Joe Spallina.......that's what would make your life relevant again I assume right?

Nope, just want my kids to be exposed to excellence, at home and at play!

I guess you will suck up ,pay a little extra to make sure he gets on his team...Money talks so go for it.

I think it is clear that it takes some talent to make one of his teams. If it only took sucking up or money, then that would be easy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

for the guy who said he can't wait for his kids to play for Joe Spallina.......that's what would make your life relevant again I assume right?

Nope, just want my kids to be exposed to excellence, at home and at play!

oooooooh type some more.....hopefully he's reading this!!! maybe he'll sign your kid's stick

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love the "I'm not from crush or crabs " but I know everything that happened and was tracking the substitutions of a U13 game That is really sad

What are you talking about many people know a lot about these 2 teams and know the players. Some are from the towns of boys watching and wanted to see their friends play.

That being said it is a game of runs, even tough a big margin was obtained you never know. One team up by half can have things turned around in the 2nd half.

I am just curious how many 14year olds were on the field. I thought U13 was 13 and under (not 14). The announcer stated one Crabs boy turned 14 the other day, so much for a uniform cutoff what are they now arbitrarily making new cutoffs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok. So can someone explain. If this is the "World" series Youth Lacrosse what other countries were there? I only see US teams that were "invited". Is it me?

According to interview with Body by Jake, there are plans to add 6 international teams in the next year or two. Of course he also said these were the top 10 teams in the country for this age when anyone who follows this age even a little bit knows that the top 10 would all be from the MidAtlantic states up through New England. So he is more than a bit of an exaggerator and self promoter but it is a very cool idea if it can truly be done correctly.

Does not matter if these were the 10 best or not, this was the right move to give this event national appeal. If all of the teams were from 3-4 states how interesting would that be for everyone else?

This event happened to take place in the year of Crush's eligibility, would expect the competition to be a little more balanced going forward.

It's all good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love the "I'm not from crush or crabs " but I know everything that happened and was tracking the substitutions of a U13 game That is really sad

What are you talking about many people know a lot about these 2 teams and know the players. Some are from the towns of boys watching and wanted to see their friends play.

That being said it is a game of runs, even tough a big margin was obtained you never know. One team up by half can have things turned around in the 2nd half.

I am just curious how many 14year olds were on the field. I thought U13 was 13 and under (not 14). The announcer stated one Crabs boy turned 14 the other day, so much for a uniform cutoff what are they now arbitrarily making new cutoffs?

Age cutoff was May 1, 2001 so some boys could have already turned 14. They had rosters published for each team so including birthdays would not have been difficult. Perhaps organizers will do going forward.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am just curious how many 14year olds were on the field. I thought U13 was 13 and under (not 14). The announcer stated one Crabs boy turned 14 the other day, so much for a uniform cutoff what are they now arbitrarily making new cutoffs?

US Lacrosse uses the childs age on September 1st preceding the competition. If they were following their guidelines every player on the field could have been 14.

Except for maybe next year, (and that team is pretty good) 91 will be a contender every year. Their 2022,2023,2024 teams are being prepped and coached to play at this higher level. This U13 tournament has changed the game for good. Starting from this point the goal is to bring a team to Denver and put gold around each kids neck. 91 likes to win and their work ethic and coaching is what makes them a threat every year.

That's funny. My club's goal is for kids to have fun and get better for the next level, not to win medals. They send tons of kids to D1 programs.

Winning games and tournaments is fun. But if chasing medals is your #1 goal, you're in for a rude awakening when you hit HS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am just curious how many 14year olds were on the field. I thought U13 was 13 and under (not 14). The announcer stated one Crabs boy turned 14 the other day, so much for a uniform cutoff what are they now arbitrarily making new cutoffs?

US Lacrosse uses the childs age on September 1st preceding the competition. If they were following their guidelines every player on the field could have been 14.

You cannot be 13 before Sept 1st to be U13- therefore following these rules you cannot have 14 yr olds. THIS tournament knew many teams could not make that cut off and moved the date to May1st. I'd also be interested in knowing how many kids wouldn't qualify under USL guidelines. Nonetheless, for this tournament the ages were a bit older than normally allowed. At least there were age cut offs and birth certificate and report card checks, as clearly it eliminated some holdbacks. This is the way it should be.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am just curious how many 14year olds were on the field. I thought U13 was 13 and under (not 14). The announcer stated one Crabs boy turned 14 the other day, so much for a uniform cutoff what are they now arbitrarily making new cutoffs?

US Lacrosse uses the childs age on September 1st preceding the competition. If they were following their guidelines every player on the field could have been 14.

So you are saying rising eighth graders who are still 13 this coming September can play in this event next year? So there may be some Crush players who can tee it up again next year?

What happened to LI Express? Has that club imploded? I thought they were the dominant LI club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I am just curious how many 14year olds were on the field. I thought U13 was 13 and under (not 14). The announcer stated one Crabs boy turned 14 the other day, so much for a uniform cutoff what are they now arbitrarily making new cutoffs?

US Lacrosse uses the childs age on September 1st preceding the competition. If they were following their guidelines every player on the field could have been 14.

So you are saying rising eighth graders who are still 13 this coming September can play in this event next year? So there may be some Crush players who can tee it up again next year?

no you will probably have to be a 2021 with the following.
Adjust one year from what their websote has.

Roster Rules
1.All players must be born on or after 5/1/2002.
2.All players must be in the Class of 2021 or later.
3.No player may compete, or be rostered, on more than one team during the tournament.
4.All players must reside within 100 miles of the home field of their program.
5.All players must participate with their team/program on a regular basis. Players are not to be added only for the World Series.
6.Any team in violation of the above roster rules will forfeit all games in which the ineligible player has participated, forfeit any opportunity to advance to the playoffs and forfeit any accolades or titles received by the team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok. So can someone explain. If this is the "World" series Youth Lacrosse what other countries were there? I only see US teams that were "invited". Is it me?

It's just you. I guess you have a problem with MLB calling it the"World" Series too, since there are only a couple Canadian teams eligible outside the US?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok. So can someone explain. If this is the "World" series Youth Lacrosse what other countries were there? I only see US teams that were "invited". Is it me?

It's just you. I guess you have a problem with MLB calling it the"World" Series too, since there are only a couple Canadian teams eligible outside the US?

They plan to add international teams next year as well as girls teams. Once they get this thing tuned it will be the pinnacle event in youth lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to LI Express? Has that club imploded? I thought they were the dominant LI club.

Greed and hubris. Undoing of all empires. Not to mention the mistreatment of most of your customers below the top team. Lesson for all clubs you better have a tiered price by model if you are not going to deliver the same value prop for all levels. Either that or keep it small to 1 team per grade. Business 101.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok. So can someone explain. If this is the "World" series Youth Lacrosse what other countries were there? I only see US teams that were "invited". Is it me?

It's just you. I guess you have a problem with MLB calling it the"World" Series too, since there are only a couple Canadian teams eligible outside the US?

They plan to add international teams next year as well as girls teams. Once they get this thing tuned it will be the pinnacle event in youth lax.

Never happen. Baseball is different any region can throw a hammer team together. Plus every game is televised which is cool. If i had no chance of being in the final it would be a waste of money. Next year Sons and igloo are the only real teams that should go. They can beat up on alabama texas utah and montana while the rest of us eat crab and drink natty bo at crabfest

Flying to CO is cost prohibitive for many families. Staging it in the Mid Atlantic makes a lot more sense in terms of an attempt to create a national championship.

Right now, the Crabs bring together the best teams for their tournaments. Like them or not, it's true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to LI Express? Has that club imploded? I thought they were the dominant LI club.

Greed and hubris. Undoing of all empires. Not to mention the mistreatment of most of your customers below the top team. Lesson for all clubs you better have a tiered price by model if you are not going to deliver the same value prop for all levels. Either that or keep it small to 1 team per grade. Business 101.

Teams 2 and 3 subsidize Team 1 in this and many other programs. Teams 2 and 3 are back in coach hoping for some peanuts while Team 1 is up in first class drinking champagne.....Better coaches, many more practices, more and better tournaments, training opportunities, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok. So can someone explain. If this is the "World" series Youth Lacrosse what other countries were there? I only see US teams that were "invited". Is it me?

It's just you. I guess you have a problem with MLB calling it the"World" Series too, since there are only a couple Canadian teams eligible outside the US?

They plan to add international teams next year as well as girls teams. Once they get this thing tuned it will be the pinnacle event in youth lax.

Never happen. Baseball is different any region can throw a hammer team together. Plus every game is televised which is cool. If i had no chance of being in the final it would be a waste of money. Next year Sons and igloo are the only real teams that should go. They can beat up on alabama texas utah and montana while the rest of us eat crab and drink natty bo at crabfest

All valid points but the opportunity for teams and kids to have a chance to be on national TV is pretty powerful marketing. Plus I think there will be a deeper field next year because they have more time to organize. We went this year is it was an incredible one time experience for my son and I. He left saying he wished he could go back next year (and he isn't on Crush). Because it's only one tournament and age level per year I think anybody who has a chance to go and doesn't would later regret their decision as their kid ages out of youth lax. If they tune it properly they can get the best competition and a great experience both. The do need the best teams there to legitimize it regardless of where they are located.

For the silly hype, it had to be pretty extraordinary to be there. My team was middle of the pack at [lacrosse]'s and all our kids and parents had a blast (helped we hit the beach for New Year's).

One team that will be back is the 2021 team from Charlotte. Pretty gutsy for them to go, but having done so they will be sure to be invited back and will know what to expect.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the silly hype, it had to be pretty extraordinary to be there. My team was middle of the pack at [lacrosse]'s and all our kids and parents had a blast (helped we hit the beach for New Year's).

One team that will be back is the 2021 team from Charlotte. Pretty gutsy for them to go, but having done so they will be sure to be invited back and will know what to expect.

Charlotte is irrelevant. A couple of good kids here and there, but not enough to make a top tier team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the silly hype, it had to be pretty extraordinary to be there. My team was middle of the pack at [lacrosse]'s and all our kids and parents had a blast (helped we hit the beach for New Year's).

One team that will be back is the 2021 team from Charlotte. Pretty gutsy for them to go, but having done so they will be sure to be invited back and will know what to expect.

Charlotte is irrelevant. A couple of good kids here and there, but not enough to make a top tier team.

They were very good, fighters, good stick skills. Gave Crush a good game. Going forward, I believe you are wrong and they have great potential!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love the "I'm not from crush or crabs " but I know everything that happened and was tracking the substitutions of a U13 game That is really sad

What are you talking about many people know a lot about these 2 teams and know the players. Some are from the towns of boys watching and wanted to see their friends play.

That being said it is a game of runs, even tough a big margin was obtained you never know. One team up by half can have things turned around in the 2nd half.

I am just curious how many 14year olds were on the field. I thought U13 was 13 and under (not 14). The announcer stated one Crabs boy turned 14 the other day, so much for a uniform cutoff what are they now arbitrarily making new cutoffs?

Smart one... The cutoff was May 1, 2001. So, anyone born between 5/1/01 and 7/2/01 would be 14 during the tournament. Is that really that hard to comprehend?

Hey Team 91. If you want to invade Maryland, tell everyone that you will not allow "holdbacks"'like your parents have been bitching about for years. Also, post your fees and practice schedule....Unless you are #fulldisclosure #team91fullofsit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to LI Express? Has that club imploded? I thought they were the dominant LI club.

Greed and hubris. Undoing of all empires. Not to mention the mistreatment of most of your customers below the top team. Lesson for all clubs you better have a tiered price by model if you are not going to deliver the same value prop for all levels. Either that or keep it small to 1 team per grade. Business 101.

Teams 2 and 3 subsidize Team 1 in this and many other programs. Teams 2 and 3 are back in coach hoping for some peanuts while Team 1 is up in first class drinking champagne.....Better coaches, many more practices, more and better tournaments, training opportunities, etc.

This would be a fine analogy except that in the club model, the coach seats cost as much as the first class seats. Who would ever buy a 2nd or 3rd class experience for a first class price. Not sustainable. Once one club goes to a tiered pricing model and starts drawing families they will all fall in line. What do you mean the 2nd and 3rd teams subsidizes the 1st. Does that mean that the first class seats are free?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Team 91. If you want to invade Maryland, tell everyone that you will not allow "holdbacks"'like your parents have been bitching about for years. Also, post your fees and practice schedule....Unless you are #fulldisclosure #team91fullofsit

Yes Crush can dominate but it's amazing what happens when they play a good 2019 a team and how much they struggle due to the physical nature of the kids one grade older...And those teams don't have to be tops in the 2019 A's ..it's a reality check for those boys and any kids that are 2020...one year makes a big difference in lacrosse. That's why some kids struggle when they get to HS age

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love the "I'm not from crush or crabs " but I know everything that happened and was tracking the substitutions of a U13 game That is really sad

What are you talking about many people know a lot about these 2 teams and know the players. Some are from the towns of boys watching and wanted to see their friends play.

That being said it is a game of runs, even tough a big margin was obtained you never know. One team up by half can have things turned around in the 2nd half.

I am just curious how many 14year olds were on the field. I thought U13 was 13 and under (not 14). The announcer stated one Crabs boy turned 14 the other day, so much for a uniform cutoff what are they now arbitrarily making new cutoffs?

Smart one... The cutoff was May 1, 2001. So, anyone born between 5/1/01 and 7/2/01 would be 14 during the tournament. Is that really that hard to comprehend?

Hardly a U13 tournament as billed if you have a single 14 year old on the field...just saying.

Watch the Little League World Series for baseball. Many of the boys will have just had a birthday or will soon turn 14. It's the nature of the beast if you do not make the tournament start date the cutoff.

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Team 91. If you want to invade Maryland, tell everyone that you will not allow "holdbacks"'like your parents have been bitching about for years. Also, post your fees and practice schedule....Unless you are #fulldisclosure #team91fullofsit

Yes Crush can dominate but it's amazing what happens when they play a good 2019 a team and how much they struggle due to the physical nature of the kids one grade older...And those teams don't have to be tops in the 2019 A's ..it's a reality check for those boys and any kids that are 2020...one year makes a big difference in lacrosse. That's why some kids struggle when they get to HS age

Have you seen them play 2019? The games they played this year they won. I think they have to work harder, but they don't struggle. Fact is, playing up a year for any team can be risky, as you don't know how many holdbacks they have an you can be playing kids more than a year older. I do think a year makes a big difference across the board, especially for your avg players/teams, which is why a coach playing a bunch of kids down makes his own team look great. I'm pretty sure those boys are going to be sought after in HS, even if they are smaller in stature. Eventually everyone will go through puberty and level out. Lax IQ definitely wins out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

I'd love to see the stats that you are referring to. Please do let us all know how you looked up each kids playing time. Is your son on this team or are you just obsessing over a team you have no connection to? Please do share and enlighten us all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Team 91. If you want to invade Maryland, tell everyone that you will not allow "holdbacks"'like your parents have been bitching about for years. Also, post your fees and practice schedule....Unless you are #fulldisclosure #team91fullofsit

If they follow the NY model they will have no holdbacks and make their kids commit to year round lacrosse. Probably not a recipe for success in MD. I'm surprised they don't get more heat on this forum for forcing kids to specialize in lax which goes against the grain of every D1 coach and sports physican.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Team 91. If you want to invade Maryland, tell everyone that you will not allow "holdbacks"'like your parents have been bitching about for years. Also, post your fees and practice schedule....Unless you are #fulldisclosure #team91fullofsit

If they follow the NY model they will have no holdbacks and make their kids commit to year round lacrosse. Probably not a recipe for success in MD. I'm surprised they don't get more heat on this forum for forcing kids to specialize in lax which goes against the grain of every D1 coach and sports physican.

Ignorance is bliss. You have no clue. LI kids play multi sports and practices get shuffled around to accommodate those sports- but then again, the kids can play more than one sport at a time, get good grades and still have a social life. The majority of kids play soccer, football, baseball, ice hockey and basketball as they also train for lax. Not only are they playing at a high level in lax, they are on travel teams for these other sports as well. So please don't speak unless you know the facts. Assuming and spouting off is a bad trait in any forum.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

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75% of Team 91's goals came from 5 players. These players were on the field the entire game, with many of them scoring multiple times in the 4th quarter during games in which they were up by 15+ goals. Not sure what other team's scoring distribution looks like but to travel all the way to Colorado on a holiday weekend to watch 5 kids score all the goals has to be frustrating for the other kids on the team that rode the bench. I am sure these five kids will get great looks at college lacrosse programs, but how can anyone sitting on the bench feel good about their prospects? Team 91 culture is to embarrass and run up the score on all opponents. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is poor sportsman ship and in my opinion, not fair to all the other kids on the team that don't get much playing time. Even the top college programs pull out their starters when playing weaker teams out of respect for the game, and the players and coaches of the other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

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I wrote that message, my kid does not play for 91 but I am trying to instill the obvious work ethic and dedication shown by the kids on the Crush in him as that will lead to a far happier and more successful life than he will find by emulating someone posting bitter and resentful messages on a youth lacrosse board since their method of laying around all day, accepting no responsibility for any actions and blaming everyone else for their failures somehow didn't translate to that happy and successful life they felt entitled to. Go figure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

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I wrote that message, my kid does not play for 91 but I am trying to instill the obvious work ethic and dedication shown by the kids on the Crush in him as that will lead to a far happier and more successful life than he will find by emulating someone posting bitter and resentful messages on a youth lacrosse board since their method of laying around all day, accepting no responsibility for any actions and blaming everyone else for their failures somehow didn't translate to that happy and successful life they felt entitled to. Go figure.

No I wrote that..you sound ridiculous..the point is 91 tried to make a point so when they start the program in Maryland why play for the Crabs when you can play for 91 . The fact is those 91 kids were being used to help sell the program to Maryland kids . Sounds crazy but think about it. It does make sense . Keep pouring it on so it looks good. In reality it's embarrassing but 13 year old lacrosse is cut throat and only the very strongest survive and will take no prisoners along the way

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Team 91. If you want to invade Maryland, tell everyone that you will not allow "holdbacks"'like your parents have been bitching about for years. Also, post your fees and practice schedule....Unless you are #fulldisclosure #team91fullofsit

If they follow the NY model they will have no holdbacks and make their kids commit to year round lacrosse. Probably not a recipe for success in MD. I'm surprised they don't get more heat on this forum for forcing kids to specialize in lax which goes against the grain of every D1 coach and sports physican.

Ignorance is bliss. You have no clue. LI kids play multi sports and practices get shuffled around to accommodate those sports- but then again, the kids can play more than one sport at a time, get good grades and still have a social life. The majority of kids play soccer, football, baseball, ice hockey and basketball as they also train for lax. Not only are they playing at a high level in lax, they are on travel teams for these other sports as well. So please don't speak unless you know the facts. Assuming and spouting off is a bad trait in any forum.

Being QB of the flag football team doesn't count.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

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I wrote that message, my kid does not play for 91 but I am trying to instill the obvious work ethic and dedication shown by the kids on the Crush in him as that will lead to a far happier and more successful life than he will find by emulating someone posting bitter and resentful messages on a youth lacrosse board since their method of laying around all day, accepting no responsibility for any actions and blaming everyone else for their failures somehow didn't translate to that happy and successful life they felt entitled to. Go figure.

There are a lot of kids that work hard. At U13 some are better than others. Some are bigger than others. No one is saying that the kids should be handed anything.

What most posters have an issue with is that in the final game - when the game was over by double digits - the coach kept the same players in and did not substitute the rest of the kids. Would those other kids liked to have been on National TV - I am sure they would have. Did they work just as hard as the other kids - I am sure they did. Are they as good as the Top 5 - probably not.

However, what message does it say to these boys. "Sorry guys, it's more important to ME and more important to 91 to run up the score on another team on National TV rather than reward you with some quality playing time."

I'm a coach and I know that playing time is not always equal - especially in tight games. This was not a tight game. This was a blowout.

My Daughter plays for the Crush coach at Stonybrook. Now I understand why she will never win a championship. He is too busy traveling with the Lizards and his Crush team while other coaches are attending summer tournies recruiting. My next email is to the Athletic Director at Stonybrook

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

this message was brought to you by the [lacrosse] kissing 91 parents

I wrote that message, my kid does not play for 91 but I am trying to instill the obvious work ethic and dedication shown by the kids on the Crush in him as that will lead to a far happier and more successful life than he will find by emulating someone posting bitter and resentful messages on a youth lacrosse board since their method of laying around all day, accepting no responsibility for any actions and blaming everyone else for their failures somehow didn't translate to that happy and successful life they felt entitled to. Go figure.

No I wrote that..you sound ridiculous..the point is 91 tried to make a point so when they start the program in Maryland why play for the Crabs when you can play for 91 . The fact is those 91 kids were being used to help sell the program to Maryland kids . Sounds crazy but think about it. It does make sense . Keep pouring it on so it looks good. In reality it's embarrassing but 13 year old lacrosse is cut throat and only the very strongest survive and will take no prisoners along the way

If LI lacrosse is so "Superior" then why are you starting a team in MD. Stay the F away. We don't need or want another team here. Especially one that plays this way. This is simply a money play by the Spalina brothers. Plain and simple. Post your fees, coaches and practice schedules. #moneygrab

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

this message was brought to you by the [lacrosse] kissing 91 parents

75% of Team 91's goals came from 5 players. These players were on the field the entire game, with many of them scoring multiple times in the 4th quarter during games in which they were up by 15+ goals. Not sure what other team's scoring distribution looks like but to travel all the way to Colorado on a holiday weekend to watch 5 kids score all the goals has to be frustrating for the other kids on the team that rode the bench. I am sure these five kids will get great looks at college lacrosse programs, but how can anyone sitting on the bench feel good about their prospects? Team 91 culture is to embarrass and run up the score on all opponents. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is poor sportsman ship and in my opinion, not fair to all the other kids on the team that don't get much playing time. Even the top college programs pull out their starters when playing weaker teams out of respect for the game, and the players and coaches of the other teams.

I agree that this was a special event and it would have been nice for all of the kids to get at least a quarter of playing time on national TV, but for some it might be worth it to sacrifice some game time for year-round training with a professional coach who has access to facilities and connections at the next level(s). They wouldn't have had the experience of going to CO and being treated like a big deal if they weren't on the team.

If your son isn't on the team, why do you care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

this message was brought to you by the [lacrosse] kissing 91 parents

I wrote that message, my kid does not play for 91 but I am trying to instill the obvious work ethic and dedication shown by the kids on the Crush in him as that will lead to a far happier and more successful life than he will find by emulating someone posting bitter and resentful messages on a youth lacrosse board since their method of laying around all day, accepting no responsibility for any actions and blaming everyone else for their failures somehow didn't translate to that happy and successful life they felt entitled to. Go figure.

No I wrote that..you sound ridiculous..the point is 91 tried to make a point so when they start the program in Maryland why play for the Crabs when you can play for 91 . The fact is those 91 kids were being used to help sell the program to Maryland kids . Sounds crazy but think about it. It does make sense . Keep pouring it on so it looks good. In reality it's embarrassing but 13 year old lacrosse is cut throat and only the very strongest survive and will take no prisoners along the way

Likely two messages with the "pouring it on" - first, as you said, seeling the new program....but second, payback for bringing kids DOWN to beat Crush a few weeks earlier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My Daughter plays for the Crush coach at Stonybrook. Now I understand why she will never win a championship. He is too busy traveling with the Lizards and his Crush team while other coaches are attending summer tournies recruiting. My next email is to the Athletic Director at Stonybrook

Sure she does. If that was true, you would know that it's Stony Brook (2 words).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My Daughter plays for the Crush coach at Stonybrook. Now I understand why she will never win a championship. He is too busy traveling with the Lizards and his Crush team while other coaches are attending summer tournies recruiting. My next email is to the Athletic Director at Stonybrook

I seriously doubt your daughter even goes to Stony Brook much less plays lacrosse there. Probably don't even have a daughter. And we get that you hate JS. But look at the facts. The year before he arrived at Stony Brook, the women's team went 4-11. Since then 14-5, 17-3, 17-4 and 18-2 with a #6 national ranking. He has done a tremendous job with that program and Stony Brook is fortunate to have him. Look for something else negative to say in your campaign against JS since this dog won't hunt.

We can dislike all we want but one things for certain Stony Brook seems to be doing just fine.. I believe they were one of the worst teams around pre JS and were in the top 10 this year. Recruiting seems to be going pretty well. Are we really digging that hard lol

agreed daughter does not play for SB. I have spoke to SB girls and they love playing for JS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

this message was brought to you by the [lacrosse] kissing 91 parents

I wrote that message, my kid does not play for 91 but I am trying to instill the obvious work ethic and dedication shown by the kids on the Crush in him as that will lead to a far happier and more successful life than he will find by emulating someone posting bitter and resentful messages on a youth lacrosse board since their method of laying around all day, accepting no responsibility for any actions and blaming everyone else for their failures somehow didn't translate to that happy and successful life they felt entitled to. Go figure.

No I wrote that..you sound ridiculous..the point is 91 tried to make a point so when they start the program in Maryland why play for the Crabs when you can play for 91 . The fact is those 91 kids were being used to help sell the program to Maryland kids . Sounds crazy but think about it. It does make sense . Keep pouring it on so it looks good. In reality it's embarrassing but 13 year old lacrosse is cut throat and only the very strongest survive and will take no prisoners along the way [/quote]

91 absolutely made a statement to MD lacrosse by destroying Crabs on national Television. 91 played that way the entire tournament, they didn't change their game plan for Crabs in any way.

Crabs shouldn't have even been there, their team without the hold backs isn't the top team in MD. Crabs were second choice, the first choice had already committed money to another tournament.

Crabs organization did this to their own players, sending a team to this tournament that is average at best without the holdback ringers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My Daughter plays for the Crush coach at Stonybrook. Now I understand why she will never win a championship. He is too busy traveling with the Lizards and his Crush team while other coaches are attending summer tournies recruiting. My next email is to the Athletic Director at Stonybrook

Sure she does. If that was true, you would know that it's Stony Brook (2 words).

Should he be out there at these recruiting tournaments? The goal is to stay coaching until their kids go thru the colleges ..It will save them money for no tuition..doesn't take a genius to figure it out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

this message was brought to you by the [lacrosse] kissing 91 parents

I wrote that message, my kid does not play for 91 but I am trying to instill the obvious work ethic and dedication shown by the kids on the Crush in him as that will lead to a far happier and more successful life than he will find by emulating someone posting bitter and resentful messages on a youth lacrosse board since their method of laying around all day, accepting no responsibility for any actions and blaming everyone else for their failures somehow didn't translate to that happy and successful life they felt entitled to. Go figure.

No I wrote that..you sound ridiculous..the point is 91 tried to make a point so when they start the program in Maryland why play for the Crabs when you can play for 91 . The fact is those 91 kids were being used to help sell the program to Maryland kids . Sounds crazy but think about it. It does make sense . Keep pouring it on so it looks good. In reality it's embarrassing but 13 year old lacrosse is cut throat and only the very strongest survive and will take no prisoners along the way

If LI lacrosse is so "Superior" then why are you starting a team in MD. Stay the F away. We don't need or want another team here. Especially one that plays this way. This is simply a money play by the Spalina brothers. Plain and simple. Post your fees, coaches and practice schedules. #moneygrab

This message brought to you by a scared and freaked out MD club director that might actually have to get a real job when 91 takes over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

this message was brought to you by the [lacrosse] kissing 91 parents

75% of Team 91's goals came from 5 players. These players were on the field the entire game, with many of them scoring multiple times in the 4th quarter during games in which they were up by 15+ goals. Not sure what other team's scoring distribution looks like but to travel all the way to Colorado on a holiday weekend to watch 5 kids score all the goals has to be frustrating for the other kids on the team that rode the bench. I am sure these five kids will get great looks at college lacrosse programs, but how can anyone sitting on the bench feel good about their prospects? Team 91 culture is to embarrass and run up the score on all opponents. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is poor sportsman ship and in my opinion, not fair to all the other kids on the team that don't get much playing time. Even the top college programs pull out their starters when playing weaker teams out of respect for the game, and the players and coaches of the other teams.

so about 7 kids scored since 5 kids represented 75% then 2 others (rounding up since common core says you can have 2/3's of a person) scored 25%. I am not sure what coach wouldn't take that. 7 kids scoring.

I've seen him recruiting not sure how he does it all but he does at a very high level pretty miraculous , SB was a great story this year. Also most kids are LI bred. Think his relationship with the YJ helps too lol. Intense fun guy, not what I anticipated from reading this type of stuff. Lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

this message was brought to you by the [lacrosse] kissing 91 parents

75% of Team 91's goals came from 5 players. These players were on the field the entire game, with many of them scoring multiple times in the 4th quarter during games in which they were up by 15+ goals. Not sure what other team's scoring distribution looks like but to travel all the way to Colorado on a holiday weekend to watch 5 kids score all the goals has to be frustrating for the other kids on the team that rode the bench. I am sure these five kids will get great looks at college lacrosse programs, but how can anyone sitting on the bench feel good about their prospects? Team 91 culture is to embarrass and run up the score on all opponents. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is poor sportsman ship and in my opinion, not fair to all the other kids on the team that don't get much playing time. Even the top college programs pull out their starters when playing weaker teams out of respect for the game, and the players and coaches of the other teams.

I agree that this was a special event and it would have been nice for all of the kids to get at least a quarter of playing time on national TV, but for some it might be worth it to sacrifice some game time for year-round training with a professional coach who has access to facilities and connections at the next level(s). They wouldn't have had the experience of going to CO and being treated like a big deal if they weren't on the team.

If your son isn't on the team, why do you care?

Been following this thread all week and this is the best line all week. The parents and the kids on this team know exactly what the deal is. Whether you agree or disagree, if the parents and kids don't care then neither should you. If you don't like what 91 does then don't join their organization. If you play for their organization and don't like what is going on, then leave. If you think you are getting value for your dollar then stay.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

this message was brought to you by the [lacrosse] kissing 91 parents

I wrote that message, my kid does not play for 91 but I am trying to instill the obvious work ethic and dedication shown by the kids on the Crush in him as that will lead to a far happier and more successful life than he will find by emulating someone posting bitter and resentful messages on a youth lacrosse board since their method of laying around all day, accepting no responsibility for any actions and blaming everyone else for their failures somehow didn't translate to that happy and successful life they felt entitled to. Go figure.

There are a lot of kids that work hard. At U13 some are better than others. Some are bigger than others. No one is saying that the kids should be handed anything.

What most posters have an issue with is that in the final game - when the game was over by double digits - the coach kept the same players in and did not substitute the rest of the kids. Would those other kids liked to have been on National TV - I am sure they would have. Did they work just as hard as the other kids - I am sure they did. Are they as good as the Top 5 - probably not.

However, what message does it say to these boys. "Sorry guys, it's more important to ME and more important to 91 to run up the score on another team on National TV rather than reward you with some quality playing time."

I'm a coach and I know that playing time is not always equal - especially in tight games. This was not a tight game. This was a blowout.

Well said, that has been my point. My favorite line of the 91 parents is, well if your kid worked harder... Like they have the corner market on it... And, I guess only a few kids on that team work hard? Again, I could have understood the lack of playing time for some if the game was tight, but it wasn't. And, if this team is really that great, all players should have been on the field. However, it is very obvious that they have some very dominant players (and no on is debating it), but they are surrounded by a bunch of decent players, clearly everyone on that team is not a star

Dear Team 91 dad,

Because it's wrong. It's a youth game, not the NCAA championship. To make it worse, the game was not in doubt. Why not give the KIDS the opportunity to play (let alone on that field on national TV) since they paid their freight like everyone else?

We saw in this tournament:

Team 91 actually won a game 30-0. I have never seen a score like that

They ran up the score on everyone except the Crabs

They also kept the starters in nearly the entire game in a game they controlled throughout.

That's all you need to know about this program. No class.

Does anyone know what percent of the time does 91 play zone defense?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

this message was brought to you by the [lacrosse] kissing 91 parents

75% of Team 91's goals came from 5 players. These players were on the field the entire game, with many of them scoring multiple times in the 4th quarter during games in which they were up by 15+ goals. Not sure what other team's scoring distribution looks like but to travel all the way to Colorado on a holiday weekend to watch 5 kids score all the goals has to be frustrating for the other kids on the team that rode the bench. I am sure these five kids will get great looks at college lacrosse programs, but how can anyone sitting on the bench feel good about their prospects? Team 91 culture is to embarrass and run up the score on all opponents. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is poor sportsman ship and in my opinion, not fair to all the other kids on the team that don't get much playing time. Even the top college programs pull out their starters when playing weaker teams out of respect for the game, and the players and coaches of the other teams.

I agree that this was a special event and it would have been nice for all of the kids to get at least a quarter of playing time on national TV, but for some it might be worth it to sacrifice some game time for year-round training with a professional coach who has access to facilities and connections at the next level(s). They wouldn't have had the experience of going to CO and being treated like a big deal if they weren't on the team.

If your son isn't on the team, why do you care?

Been following this thread all week and this is the best line all week. The parents and the kids on this team know exactly what the deal is. Whether you agree or disagree, if the parents and kids don't care then neither should you. If you don't like what 91 does then don't join their organization. If you play for their organization and don't like what is going on, then leave. If you think you are getting value for your dollar then stay.

Agree 100%. I've chosen not to have my kids play for 91, i disagree with the club's culture and approach to lacrosse, but it's a free country and we can all voice our opinions about they do things. I also feel good about calling out the reality that this team in particular runs through 5 kids (plus they have a very strong defensive unit), and the rest are just cheerleaders/sideline brawlers...but you wouldn't know that by listening or watching the parents.

This is why this team will not be dominant in a few years. Some kids will leave, some will plateau, etc.

They don't all that often. I heard that on TV. When we've played them it was man to man. Think sometimes they may rest in it that defense because they pressure

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is why this team will not be dominant in a few years. Some kids will leave, some will plateau, etc.

This team will be dominant for as long as they want to be dominant. The starters are all excellent players and they coach/play to win every game. My understanding is that all the kids on this team work extremely hard, and my guess is that the kids that don't play much would be starters/big contributors on all the other LI travel teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

this message was brought to you by the [lacrosse] kissing 91 parents

75% of Team 91's goals came from 5 players. These players were on the field the entire game, with many of them scoring multiple times in the 4th quarter during games in which they were up by 15+ goals. Not sure what other team's scoring distribution looks like but to travel all the way to Colorado on a holiday weekend to watch 5 kids score all the goals has to be frustrating for the other kids on the team that rode the bench. I am sure these five kids will get great looks at college lacrosse programs, but how can anyone sitting on the bench feel good about their prospects? Team 91 culture is to embarrass and run up the score on all opponents. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is poor sportsman ship and in my opinion, not fair to all the other kids on the team that don't get much playing time. Even the top college programs pull out their starters when playing weaker teams out of respect for the game, and the players and coaches of the other teams.

so about 7 kids scored since 5 kids represented 75% then 2 others (rounding up since common core says you can have 2/3's of a person) scored 25%. I am not sure what coach wouldn't take that. 7 kids scoring.

Actually, 13 different kids (out of 21 field players and including 2 defensemen) scored during the tourney. In order by # of goals - 26, 25, 17, 16, 16, 11, 7, 6, 3, 2, 2, 1, 1.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is why this team will not be dominant in a few years. Some kids will leave, some will plateau, etc.

This team will be dominant for as long as they want to be dominant. The starters are all excellent players and they coach/play to win every game. My understanding is that all the kids on this team work extremely hard, and my guess is that the kids that don't play much would be starters/big contributors on all the other LI travel teams.

The coach's son is a 2022 - curious to see what he will do when the other Crush players age out of travel. May not be much of a challenge to play with and against kids in his grade after playing on this team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is why this team will not be dominant in a few years. Some kids will leave, some will plateau, etc.

So this Crush team and only this team will plateau, but every other team and kid will continue to develop ? Doesn't really make sense. I agree there are 4 or so very special players on that team and the reality is not every Crush kid will play at the college level. For now, and I have a feeling going forward for some time, they will continue to be an impressive team and the team to beat in the age group, and are light years ahead of the pack.

30-0???? I just lost whatever little respect I had for the 91 organization.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Did the Crabs empty their bench early in the 2nd half and concede the game? No, I didn't think so. There were also 5 games played before the final. Do you have the playing time stats for the Crush for all of those games? No, I didn't think so but I'm willing to bet every kid on that team saw a bunch of time at some point in those games. How's this for a life lesson...work hard, practice hard, do your best at all times, be ready whenever called upon and get to be part of an extremely successful team...I think those kids on the Crush who are learning that are going to be extremely successful in whatever they choose to do if they apply that philosophy.

this message was brought to you by the [lacrosse] kissing 91 parents

75% of Team 91's goals came from 5 players. These players were on the field the entire game, with many of them scoring multiple times in the 4th quarter during games in which they were up by 15+ goals. Not sure what other team's scoring distribution looks like but to travel all the way to Colorado on a holiday weekend to watch 5 kids score all the goals has to be frustrating for the other kids on the team that rode the bench. I am sure these five kids will get great looks at college lacrosse programs, but how can anyone sitting on the bench feel good about their prospects? Team 91 culture is to embarrass and run up the score on all opponents. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is poor sportsman ship and in my opinion, not fair to all the other kids on the team that don't get much playing time. Even the top college programs pull out their starters when playing weaker teams out of respect for the game, and the players and coaches of the other teams.

so about 7 kids scored since 5 kids represented 75% then 2 others (rounding up since common core says you can have 2/3's of a person) scored 25%. I am not sure what coach wouldn't take that. 7 kids scoring.

Actually, 13 different kids (out of 21 field players and including 2 defensemen) scored during the tourney. In order by # of goals - 26, 25, 17, 16, 16, 11, 7, 6, 3, 2, 2, 1, 1.

Are these jersey numbers?

I believe #of goals for tournament top scorer had 26 goals on down

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I believe #of goals for tournament top scorer had 26 goals on down

Thank you!

75% of Team 91's goals came from 5 players. These players were on the field the entire game, with many of them scoring multiple times in the 4th quarter during games in which they were up by 15+ goals. Not sure what other team's scoring distribution looks like but to travel all the way to Colorado on a holiday weekend to watch 5 kids score all the goals has to be frustrating for the other kids on the team that rode the bench. I am sure these five kids will get great looks at college lacrosse programs, but how can anyone sitting on the bench feel good about their prospects? Team 91 culture is to embarrass and run up the score on all opponents. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is poor sportsman ship and in my opinion, not fair to all the other kids on the team that don't get much playing time. Even the top college programs pull out their starters when playing weaker teams out of respect for the game, and the players and coaches of the other teams. [/quote]

so about 7 kids scored since 5 kids represented 75% then 2 others (rounding up since common core says you can have 2/3's of a person) scored 25%. I am not sure what coach wouldn't take that. 7 kids scoring. [/quote]

Actually, 13 different kids (out of 21 field players and including 2 defensemen) scored during the tourney. In order by # of goals - 26, 25, 17, 16, 16, 11, 7, 6, 3, 2, 2, 1, 1.
[/quote]

Are these jersey numbers? [/quote]

No, numbers of goals scored by the 13 goal scorers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

75% of Team 91's goals came from 5 players. These players were on the field the entire game, with many of them scoring multiple times in the 4th quarter during games in which they were up by 15+ goals. Not sure what other team's scoring distribution looks like but to travel all the way to Colorado on a holiday weekend to watch 5 kids score all the goals has to be frustrating for the other kids on the team that rode the bench. I am sure these five kids will get great looks at college lacrosse programs, but how can anyone sitting on the bench feel good about their prospects? Team 91 culture is to embarrass and run up the score on all opponents. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is poor sportsman ship and in my opinion, not fair to all the other kids on the team that don't get much playing time. Even the top college programs pull out their starters when playing weaker teams out of respect for the game, and the players and coaches of the other teams.

so about 7 kids scored since 5 kids represented 75% then 2 others (rounding up since common core says you can have 2/3's of a person) scored 25%. I am not sure what coach wouldn't take that. 7 kids scoring. [/quote]

Actually, 13 different kids (out of 21 field players and including 2 defensemen) scored during the tourney. In order by # of goals - 26, 25, 17, 16, 16, 11, 7, 6, 3, 2, 2, 1, 1.
[/quote]

Are these jersey numbers? [/quote]

No, numbers of goals scored by the 13 goal scorers.
[/quote]

Thanks.. wasn't sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is why this team will not be dominant in a few years. Some kids will leave, some will plateau, etc.

This team will be dominant for as long as they want to be dominant. The starters are all excellent players and they coach/play to win every game. My understanding is that all the kids on this team work extremely hard, and my guess is that the kids that don't play much would be starters/big contributors on all the other LI travel teams.

DELETED - curious to see what he will do when the other Crush players age out of travel. May not be much of a challenge to play with and against kids in his grade after playing on this team.

2022? The telecast said he was 13. 13 year old 5th grader? That can't be right.

The boy just turned 12, started school late is a 2022. This has been well documented on this site. Enough of that.

I will not tolerate you people dragging down a coach through his son! Bash each other all you want BUT leave the kids out of it.

Enough about this now!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91's actions are worse than the Crabs. They gave several of their kids 60 seconds on the field after flying all the way out to Colorado. The game was well in hand early in the 2nd half, yet they kept the same starters in for nearly the entire game.

Great life lessons they taught out there.

Team is up 13-2, 6 minutes to go in 4th quarter, goal by team's leading scorer to make it 14-2. Now 2 1/2 minutes left in this squeaker and leading scorer puts in another to make the final 15-2. Was this the terrible, awful Crush?!? Of course not, this was the Crabs in their round robin game against Eclipse. Perhaps you can get off your high horse now since people in glass houses (and yours it quite transparent!) should not throw stones...

Jake Seinfeld Money Grab...it's all about the kids my [lacrosse]...

who started this new trend of August tryouts? Its the one month where in the past we knew we had no lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dear Team 91 dad,

Because it's wrong. It's a youth game, not the NCAA championship. To make it worse, the game was not in doubt. Why not give the KIDS the opportunity to play (let alone on that field on national TV) since they paid their freight like everyone else?

We saw in this tournament:

Team 91 actually won a game 30-0. I have never seen a score like that

They ran up the score on everyone except the Crabs

They also kept the starters in nearly the entire game in a game they controlled throughout.

That's all you need to know about this program. No class.

spoken from a true Crab parent.

They are upset because they got smoked on national TV by their new in county rivals.

Crabs didn't deserve to be there, they are only good with their hold backs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who started this new trend of August tryouts? Its the one month where in the past we knew we had no lacrosse.

yeah that's the lacrosse coaches trying to eliminate football or make it difficult for youth football coaches to even field a practice. it's getting annoying

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dear Team 91 dad,

Because it's wrong. It's a youth game, not the NCAA championship. To make it worse, the game was not in doubt. Why not give the KIDS the opportunity to play (let alone on that field on national TV) since they paid their freight like everyone else?hold backs obviously didn't matter can we stop with this hold back business. how do u complain when your ripping teams by 20 goals. the person brought up the fact that while cruising with a massive lead u don't start emptying the bench. it's done in all levels of sports. when you're ahead in a blow out u start getting other kids in the game. why is that so hard to understand. it's unheard of to keep the starters in when you're blowing a team out. and you all know that too. if 91 told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? my God. so annoying the way you people act. it's like a cult. "Oh we never speak out against the master." I can guarantee those parents who's kids didn't get in that game or barely played are upset. it's not normal not to be upset. they're kids. they're just not on here complaining about it. stop acting like a bunch of tough guys with the oh yeah bro that's how 91 does it up 30-0 keep the foot on the gas....and if you're on the bench get comfortable bit. it's getting old.

We saw in this tournament:

Team 91 actually won a game 30-0. I have never seen a score like that

They ran up the score on everyone except the Crabs

They also kept the starters in nearly the entire game in a game they controlled throughout.

That's all you need to know about this program. No class.

spoken from a true Crab parent.

They are upset because they got smoked on national TV by their new in county rivals.

Crabs didn't deserve to be there, they are only good with their hold backs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dear Team 91 dad,

Because it's wrong. It's a youth game, not the NCAA championship. To make it worse, the game was not in doubt. Why not give the KIDS the opportunity to play (let alone on that field on national TV) since they paid their freight like everyone else?hold backs obviously didn't matter can we stop with this hold back business. how do u complain when your ripping teams by 20 goals. the person brought up the fact that while cruising with a massive lead u don't start emptying the bench. it's done in all levels of sports. when you're ahead in a blow out u start getting other kids in the game. why is that so hard to understand. it's unheard of to keep the starters in when you're blowing a team out. and you all know that too. if 91 told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? my God. so annoying the way you people act. it's like a cult. "Oh we never speak out against the master." I can guarantee those parents who's kids didn't get in that game or barely played are upset. it's not normal not to be upset. they're kids. they're just not on here complaining about it. stop acting like a bunch of tough guys with the oh yeah bro that's how 91 does it up 30-0 keep the foot on the gas....and if you're on the bench get comfortable bit. it's getting old.

We saw in this tournament:

Team 91 actually won a game 30-0. I have never seen a score like that

They ran up the score on everyone except the Crabs

They also kept the starters in nearly the entire game in a game they controlled throughout.

That's all you need to know about this program. No class.

spoken from a true Crab parent.

They are upset because they got smoked on national TV by their new in county rivals.

Crabs didn't deserve to be there, they are only good with their hold backs!

And...Crabs benched their regular 2020 kids at the beach so the visiting 2019s could win games for them. Gotta wonder how those kids felt and those parents do not walk away from Crabs or complain.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who started this new trend of August tryouts? Its the one month where in the past we knew we had no lacrosse.

yeah that's the lacrosse coaches trying to eliminate football or make it difficult for youth football coaches to even field a practice. it's getting annoying

I think it is a great idea. Who needs to be juggling back to school work, try outs and other sports all at once? So football players miss 2 practices? They'd miss them in Sept too, along with soccer players, Ice hockey and all the other sports. Kids shoukd be focusing on school at the beginning of September and not worrying about whether they made the team. I hope it stays this way- better for their academic start, which should be the priority.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

who started this new trend of August tryouts? Its the one month where in the past we knew we had no lacrosse.

yeah that's the lacrosse coaches trying to eliminate football or make it difficult for youth football coaches to even field a practice. it's getting annoying

I think it is a great idea. Who needs to be juggling back to school work, try outs and other sports all at once? So football players miss 2 practices? They'd miss them in Sept too, along with soccer players, Ice hockey and all the other sports. Kids shoukd be focusing on school at the beginning of September and not worrying about whether they made the team. I hope it stays this way- better for their academic start, which should be the priority.

umm ok

Football is on its way out, will be replaced by futball soon enough, they make better lax players anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the silly hype, it had to be pretty extraordinary to be there. My team was middle of the pack at [lacrosse]'s and all our kids and parents had a blast (helped we hit the beach for New Year's).

One team that will be back is the 2021 team from Charlotte. Pretty gutsy for them to go, but having done so they will be sure to be invited back and will know what to expect.

Charlotte is irrelevant. A couple of good kids here and there, but not enough to make a top tier team.

They were very good, fighters, good stick skills. Gave Crush a good game. Going forward, I believe you are wrong and they have great potential!

Well, Team Carolina lost 25-3 to Crush in Denver, so...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Football is on its way out, will be replaced by futball soon enough, they make better lax players anyway.

Lmfaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooo youre on drugs. football ain't going anywhere. u must be one of those people who I grew up with who's parents didn't let them play football cuz it was too dangerous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dear Team 91 dad,

Because it's wrong. It's a youth game, not the NCAA championship. To make it worse, the game was not in doubt. Why not give the KIDS the opportunity to play (let alone on that field on national TV) since they paid their freight like everyone else?hold backs obviously didn't matter can we stop with this hold back business. how do u complain when your ripping teams by 20 goals. the person brought up the fact that while cruising with a massive lead u don't start emptying the bench. it's done in all levels of sports. when you're ahead in a blow out u start getting other kids in the game. why is that so hard to understand. it's unheard of to keep the starters in when you're blowing a team out. and you all know that too. if 91 told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? my God. so annoying the way you people act. it's like a cult. "Oh we never speak out against the master." I can guarantee those parents who's kids didn't get in that game or barely played are upset. it's not normal not to be upset. they're kids. they're just not on here complaining about it. stop acting like a bunch of tough guys with the oh yeah bro that's how 91 does it up 30-0 keep the foot on the gas....and if you're on the bench get comfortable bit. it's getting old.

We saw in this tournament:

Team 91 actually won a game 30-0. I have never seen a score like that

They ran up the score on everyone except the Crabs

They also kept the starters in nearly the entire game in a game they controlled throughout.

That's all you need to know about this program. No class.

spoken from a true Crab parent.

They are upset because they got smoked on national TV by their new in county rivals.

Crabs didn't deserve to be there, they are only good with their hold backs!

And...Crabs benched their regular 2020 kids at the beach so the visiting 2019s could win games for them. Gotta wonder how those kids felt and those parents do not walk away from Crabs or complain.

I could care less what the crabs do! I'm from long island....home of 91! I'm talking about them not clearing the bench when blowing teams out. it's classless. period. and you all know it. agreed blah blah blah....if the crabs have hold backs that's garbage too. yay great I said it.....but I'm talking about crush having kids just sit and watch a blow out. at every single level of sports the bench is cleared in a blow out. just goes to show what a tool Spallina is

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the silly hype, it had to be pretty extraordinary to be there. My team was middle of the pack at [lacrosse]'s and all our kids and parents had a blast (helped we hit the beach for New Year's).

One team that will be back is the 2021 team from Charlotte. Pretty gutsy for them to go, but having done so they will be sure to be invited back and will know what to expect.

Charlotte is irrelevant. A couple of good kids here and there, but not enough to make a top tier team.

They were very good, fighters, good stick skills. Gave Crush a good game. Going forward, I believe you are wrong and they have great potential!

Well, Team Carolina lost 25-3 to Crush in Denver, so...

If you are concerned with how competitive they will be next year, it might be better to look at their 7-6 loss to Igloo Black Ice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Football is on its way out, will be replaced by futball soon enough, they make better lax players anyway.

Lmfaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooo youre on drugs. football ain't going anywhere. u must be one of those people who I grew up with who's parents didn't let them play football cuz it was too dangerous.

football numbers continue to go down every year, soccer numbers continue to rise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the silly hype, it had to be pretty extraordinary to be there. My team was middle of the pack at [lacrosse]'s and all our kids and parents had a blast (helped we hit the beach for New Year's).

One team that will be back is the 2021 team from Charlotte. Pretty gutsy for them to go, but having done so they will be sure to be invited back and will know what to expect.

Charlotte is irrelevant. A couple of good kids here and there, but not enough to make a top tier team.

They were very good, fighters, good stick skills. Gave Crush a good game. Going forward, I believe you are wrong and they have great potential!

Well, Team Carolina lost 25-3 to Crush in Denver, so...

If you are concerned with how competitive they will be next year, it might be better to look at their 7-6 loss to Igloo Black Ice.

You'll see they are a solid team. They played crush better than Sons. Remember they are 2021

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dear Team 91 dad,

Because it's wrong. It's a youth game, not the NCAA championship. To make it worse, the game was not in doubt. Why not give the KIDS the opportunity to play (let alone on that field on national TV) since they paid their freight like everyone else?hold backs obviously didn't matter can we stop with this hold back business. how do u complain when your ripping teams by 20 goals. the person brought up the fact that while cruising with a massive lead u don't start emptying the bench. it's done in all levels of sports. when you're ahead in a blow out u start getting other kids in the game. why is that so hard to understand. it's unheard of to keep the starters in when you're blowing a team out. and you all know that too. if 91 told you to jump off a bridge would you do it? my God. so annoying the way you people act. it's like a cult. "Oh we never speak out against the master." I can guarantee those parents who's kids didn't get in that game or barely played are upset. it's not normal not to be upset. they're kids. they're just not on here complaining about it. stop acting like a bunch of tough guys with the oh yeah bro that's how 91 does it up 30-0 keep the foot on the gas....and if you're on the bench get comfortable bit. it's getting old.

We saw in this tournament:

Team 91 actually won a game 30-0. I have never seen a score like that

They ran up the score on everyone except the Crabs

They also kept the starters in nearly the entire game in a game they controlled throughout.

That's all you need to know about this program. No class.

spoken from a true Crab parent.

They are upset because they got smoked on national TV by their new in county rivals.

Crabs didn't deserve to be there, they are only good with their hold backs!

And...Crabs benched their regular 2020 kids at the beach so the visiting 2019s could win games for them. Gotta wonder how those kids felt and those parents do not walk away from Crabs or complain.

I could care less what the crabs do! I'm from long island....home of 91! I'm talking about them not clearing the bench when blowing teams out. it's classless. period. and you all know it. agreed blah blah blah....if the crabs have hold backs that's garbage too. yay great I said it.....but I'm talking about crush having kids just sit and watch a blow out. at every single level of sports the bench is cleared in a blow out. just goes to show what a tool Spallina is

If the coach was upfront about the play time then what is the problem? Doesn't seem to bother the parents or kids that they don't play, otherwise you would have heard about mass defections from this team. Personally, I think it is wrong and would have given some run to all the players in all the games given the scores, but if it doesn't bother them, then it shouldn't bother you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Football is on its way out, will be replaced by futball soon enough, they make better lax players anyway.

Lmfaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooo youre on drugs. football ain't going anywhere. u must be one of those people who I grew up with who's parents didn't let them play football cuz it was too dangerous.

football numbers continue to go down every year, soccer numbers continue to rise.

sspoken by a true soccer coach. tell that BS to the multi million dollar empire called the NFL. nice try though.

No one takes a trip all the way to Colorado and be limited in playing time . What planet are you on . Some kids are 13 some are in 5th grade and 6th but they all want to play..I am sure they have heard that they will get more out of my practices then they will in games with other teams. That's the oldest like me in the book. Bottom line if your a parent of a kid that hardly played out there then you should look to another organization for playing time. Wins mean nothing but the game experience can only help your kid. Don't hold back because you want your son to say he is on this or that team . by the way it's crazy seeing kids play zone at this age instead of guarding someone one on one..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one takes a trip all the way to Colorado and be limited in playing time . What planet are you on . Some kids are 13 some are in 5th grade and 6th but they all want to play..I am sure they have heard that they will get more out of my practices then they will in games with other teams. That's the oldest like me in the book. Bottom line if your a parent of a kid that hardly played out there then you should look to another organization for playing time. Wins mean nothing but the game experience can only help your kid. Don't hold back because you want your son to say he is on this or that team . by the way it's crazy seeing kids play zone at this age instead of guarding someone one on one..

yup well said

That's why that team is so good they have been together for so long. They play zone man to man they do it all. Reason is there isn't much turnover on roster

they play zone because they do not want their 3 or 4 middies that get to play to get tired who is kidding who. they are strong 1-13 after that there is a huge drop off anybody says differently is just kidding themselves!!! the other 10 kids are wasting there time if they think they are getting better by sitting the bench and getting zero run in practice. wake up that team is built for 5 kids to be showcased it has been proven over and over again. the rest can get there championship tee shirts and wear them proudly we all will see what is what when it matters!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they play zone because they do not want their 3 or 4 middies that get to play to get tired who is kidding who. they are strong 1-13 after that there is a huge drop off anybody says differently is just kidding themselves!!! the other 10 kids are wasting there time if they think they are getting better by sitting the bench and getting zero run in practice. wake up that team is built for 5 kids to be showcased it has been proven over and over again. the rest can get there championship tee shirts and wear them proudly we all will see what is what when it matters!!!

The last 10-15 on the roster cover the expenses for the ones that play in the big games. Occasionally the last 10 get some time so that the parents are fooled into not leaving and writing those big checks to some other club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they play zone because they do not want their 3 or 4 middies that get to play to get tired who is kidding who. they are strong 1-13 after that there is a huge drop off anybody says differently is just kidding themselves!!! the other 10 kids are wasting there time if they think they are getting better by sitting the bench and getting zero run in practice. wake up that team is built for 5 kids to be showcased it has been proven over and over again. the rest can get there championship tee shirts and wear them proudly we all will see what is what when it matters!!!

The last 10-15 on the roster cover the expenses for the ones that play in the big games. Occasionally the last 10 get some time so that the parents are fooled into not leaving and writing those big checks to some other club.

Lmao!! That's 91 to a T

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they play zone because they do not want their 3 or 4 middies that get to play to get tired who is kidding who. they are strong 1-13 after that there is a huge drop off anybody says differently is just kidding themselves!!! the other 10 kids are wasting there time if they think they are getting better by sitting the bench and getting zero run in practice. wake up that team is built for 5 kids to be showcased it has been proven over and over again. the rest can get there championship tee shirts and wear them proudly we all will see what is what when it matters!!!

The last 10-15 on the roster cover the expenses for the ones that play in the big games. Occasionally the last 10 get some time so that the parents are fooled into not leaving and writing those big checks to some other club.

Watch out those last few kids may think about what you said and blow away your kid at their own team try out. That whole team can pretty much make any A team. Do you think the amount of oractice and dedication results in average players. If you want to test the theory, post your kids team here and maybe a few will show up at the try outs. It's amazing how many people like to talk poorly about other kids. Go critique your own kid. Jealousy is oozing from you whether you deny it or not. Haters will hate.

Bring them down would love to see it!! I would bet my paycheck they get smoked by our top 14. There is no jealousy here I find it comical.. That all you jerkoffs argue about this stuff. It will all come to a head soon enough.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they play zone because they do not want their 3 or 4 middies that get to play to get tired who is kidding who. they are strong 1-13 after that there is a huge drop off anybody says differently is just kidding themselves!!! the other 10 kids are wasting there time if they think they are getting better by sitting the bench and getting zero run in practice. wake up that team is built for 5 kids to be showcased it has been proven over and over again. the rest can get there championship tee shirts and wear them proudly we all will see what is what when it matters!!!

Switch out their defense with that of Terps, Legacy or even the better defenders on Igloo, fl$, True Blue, etc. and you get the same result. Their D is good but not the reason for their success. They win almost every face off, are great in transition and move the ball like a good HS team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they play zone because they do not want their 3 or 4 middies that get to play to get tired who is kidding who. they are strong 1-13 after that there is a huge drop off anybody says differently is just kidding themselves!!! the other 10 kids are wasting there time if they think they are getting better by sitting the bench and getting zero run in practice. wake up that team is built for 5 kids to be showcased it has been proven over and over again. the rest can get there championship tee shirts and wear them proudly we all will see what is what when it matters!!!

The last 10-15 on the roster cover the expenses for the ones that play in the big games. Occasionally the last 10 get some time so that the parents are fooled into not leaving and writing those big checks to some other club.

Watch out those last few kids may think about what you said and blow away your kid at their own team try out. That whole team can pretty much make any A team. Do you think the amount of oractice and dedication results in average players. If you want to test the theory, post your kids team here and maybe a few will show up at the try outs. It's amazing how many people like to talk poorly about other kids. Go critique your own kid. Jealousy is oozing from you whether you deny it or not. Haters will hate.

Its not a critique of the kids - its a critique of the dumb parents who keep writing the checks for no playing time in big games. But ok, bring it!! Express.

What I found so worthy of emulating when it comes to watching Crush is the great transition passing and great passing as soon as the ballcarrier draws a slide or even a hedge. Amazing how quick the ballcarrier passes and great "follow the slide" cuts off ball. It really looked very similar to the highlight video of 91 Extreme when they were at [lacrosse]'s.

I assume they play a lot or indoor or box lacrosse.

My team is on the smallish side and it's a style I worked on with my team tonight. We have a long way to go, but it's a pretty game played like that.

It was obvious from that televised game that Team 91 only cares about the top 5-6 guys. Everyone else is just there to give their money to the club. Those top guys will get the accolades and the rest are interchangeable. Very similar to a swim club where the coach only cares about the top guys who are good college prospects and the rest are there just to help pay for the expenses.

It is very clear they are head and shoulders better than the rest of 2020 teams. A better issue to discuss is who is #2. Critiquing a team like them makes us all sound unintelligent until someone is at least somewhat close which is not right now. Who is 2-5?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bring them down would love to see it!! I would bet my paycheck they get smoked by our top 14. There is no jealousy here I find it comical.. That all you jerkoffs argue about this stuff. It will all come to a head soon enough.

Where should we bring them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was obvious from that televised game that Team 91 only cares about the top 5-6 guys. Everyone else is just there to give their money to the club. Those top guys will get the accolades and the rest are interchangeable. Very similar to a swim club where the coach only cares about the top guys who are good college prospects and the rest are there just to help pay for the expenses.

News flash- take the top guys off of any team and it changes everything.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is very clear they are head and shoulders better than the rest of 2020 teams. A better issue to discuss is who is #2. Critiquing a team like them makes us all sound unintelligent until someone is at least somewhat close which is not right now. Who is 2-5?

Couldn't agree more, it's as if these posters forgot they had kids that play for teams too. I say Express and then Legacy, but if you take the top 4/5 kids off these teams- well then... Hmmmm.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was obvious from that televised game that Team 91 only cares about the top 5-6 guys. Everyone else is just there to give their money to the club. Those top guys will get the accolades and the rest are interchangeable. Very similar to a swim club where the coach only cares about the top guys who are good college prospects and the rest are there just to help pay for the expenses.

Yes, and more disturbing is that the top 5 don't pay anything or very little. They will give back to the club in the form of a name on a web page with a high profile committment that will draw in more starry eyed parent suckers with a checkbook.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bring them down would love to see it!! I would bet my paycheck they get smoked by our top 14. There is no jealousy here I find it comical.. That all you jerkoffs argue about this stuff. It will all come to a head soon enough.

Where should we bring them?

Wouldn't bet your paycheck so fast those players that don't see the field as much were recruited off other top teams. Somebody on this forum is beyond angry and upset with Crush. Why do you care do much? Obsess much? Weird!

Next up is Looneys and all their talk. They continue to avoid us this year.. Not for long if they can get passed bracket pool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Next up is Looneys and all their talk. They continue to avoid us this year.. Not for long if they can get passed bracket pool.

Who are you talking about? Who is Looneys avoiding all year long?

They won't get past the terps in pool play you will not play them. No worries

Bring them down to express tryouts we will match them up against good competition and see how they do.

NXT Cup has Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue, fl$, and Outlaws Black in addition to Looneys, Rising Sons, Mesa, and many more. Will be much more competitive than the World Series was. Based on groupings, Crush and Legacy come out of Group 1, fl$ gets out of Group 2 even with the Eclipse team that was in the World Series in there, Rising Sons will keep True Blue from advancing in Group 3, the Outlaws will struggle in Group 4 and the Terps will squeak by Looneys to get out of Group 5. That puts 4 LI teams in the quarterfinals out of the 22 teams in the bracket and would be a great showing for the region.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup has Crush, Terps, Legacy, True Blue, fl$, and Outlaws Black in addition to Looneys, Rising Sons, Mesa, and many more. Will be much more competitive than the World Series was. Based on groupings, Crush and Legacy come out of Group 1, fl$ gets out of Group 2 even with the Eclipse team that was in the World Series in there, Rising Sons will keep True Blue from advancing in Group 3, the Outlaws will struggle in Group 4 and the Terps will squeak by Looneys to get out of Group 5. That puts 4 LI teams in the quarterfinals out of the 22 teams in the bracket and would be a great showing for the region.

Pretty good insights into the grade, but fl$ will struggle against all and Terps will struggle against Looney's. My bet is Looney's wins that division and Terps take one of the wildcard spots.

Wow I didn't realize all the good teams going to NXT The competition is going to be better than the lax World Series. How many World Series teams are In the nxt

fl$ will do very well if the coach does what crush does and plays his best to win if he plays the weaker kids they will be in trouble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fl$ will do very well if the coach does what crush does and plays his best to win if he plays the weaker kids they will be in trouble.

Let me guess, you think your kid is one of the best?

Jack A$$ comment from a Jack A$$ parent, expect no less from fl$ parents. Crushes "weak" kids would demolish fl$ starters any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Spoken like a true 91 parent. Do u people ever proof read what u write? U come out sounding like a tool but maybe u are not smart enough to realize that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow I didn't realize all the good teams going to NXT The competition is going to be better than the lax World Series. How many World Series teams are In the nxt

Looks like only two, crush and sons, but with express and Looney's plus a few others the competition will be very good.

Please elaborate on what "true 91 Parent" means.

Not very bright, living their life through their children, tattoos, cheer like animals, ignorant....should I go on?

except for the tattoos, you have described most lax parents - at least the ones that read this site (including myself).

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

Does anyone know how good the Cincy Royals are? We're not playing them, but we've never heard of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

not familiar with this Looney's team? from Maryland? can they compete with Crush?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

My predication is a 91/express final

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

not familiar with this Looney's team? from Maryland? can they compete with Crush?

Put them in the same category as Express, Legacy, Crabs, etc., but they've played Crush a number of times and lost by the typical margin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

not familiar with this Looney's team? from Maryland? can they compete with Crush?

Put them in the same category as Express, Legacy, Crabs, etc., but they've played Crush a number of times and lost by the typical margin.

If they play each other the scores Probably going to be around 13-6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

not familiar with this Looney's team? from Maryland? can they compete with Crush?

Put them in the same category as Express, Legacy, Crabs, etc., but they've played Crush a number of times and lost by the typical margin.

If they play each other the scores Probably going to be around 13-6

Do the MD, PA etc bring down 2019 to play in this tournament line Crabs like to do?

Jersey Shootout this Weekend - 2020 Teams
Mad Dog 2020
Patriot 2020
Leading Edge 2020
Madlax Capital 2020/21 Orange
True Illinois 2020

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not very bright, living their life through their children, tattoos, cheer like animals, ignorant....should I go on?

You shouldn't hate on the 91 parents just because they show a much higher level of dedication than everyone else. Until everyone else is willing to match their skin color to their son's helmet stickers they just need to quietly accept team 91's dominance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not very bright, living their life through their children, tattoos, cheer like animals, ignorant....should I go on?

You shouldn't hate on the 91 parents just because they show a much higher level of dedication than everyone else. Until everyone else is willing to match their skin color to their son's helmet stickers they just need to quietly accept team 91's dominance.

LOL, that is the funniest comment I have heard on here!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

not familiar with this Looney's team? from Maryland? can they compete with Crush?

Put them in the same category as Express, Legacy, Crabs, etc., but they've played Crush a number of times and lost by the typical margin.

Probably not because the looneys 2019 team is not that good

If they play each other the scores Probably going to be around 13-6

Do the MD, PA etc bring down 2019 to play in this tournament line Crabs like to do?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how good the Cincy Royals are? We're not playing them, but we've never heard of them.

Which probably means they are very good, or the opposite of that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

not familiar with this Looney's team? from Maryland? can they compete with Crush?

Nice try Looneys dad/mom, we know you guys have a crush on Crush.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

not familiar with this Looney's team? from Maryland? can they compete with Crush?

Nice try Looneys dad/mom, we know you guys have a crush on Crush.

NXT Cup Final Prediction -- Looneys by 2 over Crush...take it to the bank boys!

This thread has been overrun by moron parents. Your embarrassing yourselves and your kids. Way to go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

not familiar with this Looney's team? from Maryland? can they compete with Crush?

Nice try Looneys dad/mom, we know you guys have a crush on Crush.

NXT Cup Final Prediction -- Looneys by 2 over Crush...take it to the bank boys!

Wanna Bet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

not familiar with this Looney's team? from Maryland? can they compete with Crush?

Nice try Looneys dad/mom, we know you guys have a crush on Crush.

NXT Cup Final Prediction -- Looneys by 2 over Crush...take it to the bank boys!

Wanna Bet?

Only way to beat them is the play super physical and tight D on their 3 main offensive weapons. If you give them space they will torch you. You can score on them.

Overlooked teams based on your LI centric analysis--PA Roughriders, Carolina Cannons, Indiana/Illinois--All very competitive teams right behind Express and Looney's. Crush and all their arrogance are above everyone. Beyoned their top 5 NONE of those kids would star on any of the other teams they'd just blend in. Keep dreaming parents 91 parents if you think otherwise...delusional. Thank the heavens you got on the team early and enjoy your training and orange gear...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NXT Cup Final Prediction - Crush vs. Looneys, Crush by 4 goals.

Make that 14 goals.

not familiar with this Looney's team? from Maryland? can they compete with Crush?

Nice try Looneys dad/mom, we know you guys have a crush on Crush.

NXT Cup Final Prediction -- Looneys by 2 over Crush...take it to the bank boys!

Wanna Bet?

I like it....People are such s**t stirrers, makes it interesting... We will see what happens on the field

I love how all the LI parents think this Crush team is the best of all time. There are several good prospects on this team, but don't kid yourself that this team will never lose a game.

Other teams will catch up to them shortly. Happens all the time.

LI parent here, please don't bunch us all up. Couldn't care less about the crush. Yes they are a good team. My kid doesn't play for them - so I care as much about them as any other team on LI or Maryland, NJ, CT or anywhere else. Lets move on to something more constructive rather than just the 16 players on one team. Being this is a 2020 thread - I'm sure there is more to discuss than one or two teams. Lets try and stay positive as well!

Take the top 5/6 off any team what would happen for you to say after top kids the rest would blend would make them? Being that we all declare our teams as A teams they would be A players Crush top 7 is the seperation not the next 7. Either way no team is equal top to bottom regardless of level. My boy doesn't play for Crush and I question some things w that team but as much as none of us want it there is an enormous gap between them and the next team after them the teams are very evenly matched. A great discussion is ranking the other LI teams

After Crush what's the order on LI

Express
fl$
Legacy
True Blue
Empire
?

Wait until the Crush tryouts when other great new players start showing up and the current bottom 2/3 of the roster gets the ole' "heave [lacrosse]!" That'll be delicious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After Crush what's the order on LI

Express
fl$
Legacy
True Blue
Empire
?

You will have some good data after this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait until the Crush tryouts when other great new players start showing up and the current bottom 2/3 of the roster gets the ole' "heave [lacrosse]!" That'll be delicious.

Anyone would be silly to join that team now. Heading into 8th grade summer they will only play marquee recruiting events and only the starters will play.

Now is the perfect time for the crush bench players to pick their new team. Every other club would welcome them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I love how all the LI parents think this Crush team is the best of all time. There are several good prospects on this team, but don't kid yourself that this team will never lose a game.

Other teams will catch up to them shortly. Happens all the time.

Especially teams from MD, PA and Mass. They will assemble a batch of reclass and double reclass 2019's and 2018's and drop them into 2020. Then they'll be all full of themselves that their dopey kids who repeated 8th or 9th grade 2 or 3 times finally beat those age legit Crush kids...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait until the Crush tryouts when other great new players start showing up and the current bottom 2/3 of the roster gets the ole' "heave [lacrosse]!"
That'll be delicious.

Which top players would leave their team to sit the bench on Crush? And why would that be "delicious" you are a sick person. Everyone out there is trying to do the best for their kids. it just so happens that Crush has the top recruits in the age group plus a couple connected kids starting. No other kid is cracking the starting line up, sorry to tell you. If a kid from another team is even good enough to make the team, he should run for the hills as fast as he can moving into important recruiting years. As for the kids who get less playing time, some may belong to great HS programs and the skills they have will allow them to shine there and at recruiting showcases. You should really mind your business and stop obsessing over Crush. Your green eyes are unsportsmanlike.

After Crush what's the order on LI

Express
fl$
Legacy
True Blue
Empire
?

Legacy is clear # 3. fl$ is in the mix for 4 along with Express 2, Igloo, Vipers, and True Blue. Empire does not belong in top 10 at the moment. As a new team, they move improve dramatically in their second year together but for right now, they would be under all of these teams and grouped with teams like Outlaws Black, All Greys, Legacy Taz.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait until the Crush tryouts when other great new players start showing up and the current bottom 2/3 of the roster gets the ole' "heave [lacrosse]!"
That'll be delicious.

Which top players would leave their team to sit the bench on Crush? And why would that be "delicious" you are a sick person. Everyone out there is trying to do the best for their kids. it just so happens that Crush has the top recruits in the age group plus a couple connected kids starting. No other kid is cracking the starting line up, sorry to tell you. If a kid from another team is even good enough to make the team, he should run for the hills as fast as he can moving into important recruiting years. As for the kids who get less playing time, some may belong to great HS programs and the skills they have will allow them to shine there and at recruiting showcases. You should really mind your business and stop obsessing over Crush. Your green eyes are unsportsmanlike.

Why would any kid decide to ride the bench at Denver for 4 years? Maybe he'll get a shot along the way. That's why this program will attract all the best players out there. You should be worried if you don't believe this reality of high level club lacrosse - the behind the scenes maneuvering has already started and you will not realize it until your kid doesn't make it but his outcome had already been baked long before the tryout. The bottom half of the roster is toast. Next year's crush will be even better but there will be a lot of new faces and plenty of current kids will be told not to come back.

My order crush, express, legacy Taz, fl$, vipers, igloo, true blue, outlaws. I do believe crush will be beat next year kids are starting to hit it now. As for express I do believe they can be beat right now if you have a good fogo. There best years are behind them. Legacy Taz is definitely at least 3rd being that they have beaten all the rest of the teams than there is the rest. A few kids on those other teams should look to jump on the other top teams this year before the recruiting tournaments begin to get your kids in the best spot!!! Just an opinion

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait until the Crush tryouts when other great new players start showing up and the current bottom 2/3 of the roster gets the ole' "heave [lacrosse]!"
That'll be delicious.

Which top players would leave their team to sit the bench on Crush? And why would that be "delicious" you are a sick person. Everyone out there is trying to do the best for their kids. it just so happens that Crush has the top recruits in the age group plus a couple connected kids starting. No other kid is cracking the starting line up, sorry to tell you. If a kid from another team is even good enough to make the team, he should run for the hills as fast as he can moving into important recruiting years. As for the kids who get less playing time, some may belong to great HS programs and the skills they have will allow them to shine there and at recruiting showcases. You should really mind your business and stop obsessing over Crush. Your green eyes are unsportsmanlike.

Will be tough but good life lessons for both the kids and the parents. The handwringing and worrying by the parents has started already. Most you already kind of have a feeling that you are probably on the way out based on playing time in the final game in Denver. The reaction of the parents who are asked to leave Crush will be delicious. My advice would be to find a program with 1 team per grade. Don't fall for the B team - its a message that your son is only valued for your family checkbook.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait until the Crush tryouts when other great new players start showing up and the current bottom 2/3 of the roster gets the ole' "heave [lacrosse]!"
That'll be delicious.

Which top players would leave their team to sit the bench on Crush? And why would that be "delicious" you are a sick person. Everyone out there is trying to do the best for their kids. it just so happens that Crush has the top recruits in the age group plus a couple connected kids starting. No other kid is cracking the starting line up, sorry to tell you. If a kid from another team is even good enough to make the team, he should run for the hills as fast as he can moving into important recruiting years. As for the kids who get less playing time, some may belong to great HS programs and the skills they have will allow them to shine there and at recruiting showcases. You should really mind your business and stop obsessing over Crush. Your green eyes are unsportsmanlike.

Will be tough but good life lessons for both the kids and the parents. The handwringing and worrying by the parents has started already. Most you already kind of have a feeling that you are probably on the way out based on playing time in the final game in Denver. The reaction of the parents who are asked to leave Crush will be delicious. My advice would be to find a program with 1 team per grade. Don't fall for the B team - its a message that your son is only valued for your family checkbook.

The way you carry on about Crush must mean your kid was cut or didn't make it at some point. Do you not know that the same thing goes on at Legacy and Express? I know some very unhappy people on both those teams that have traveled to away tournaments and kids barely saw the field. Why single out Crush? What so you think happens in college? Most kids ride the bench, that's what. They were good enough to be recruited at some point, but some peak, lose interest, ect. Playing time is earned, nothing is guaranteed. If your not happy with what's going on, work harder or try a different team or sport. These are personal decisions. Hating on these kids is a terrible thing to do by an adult, you should be ashamed of yourself! The kids you are bashing are wonderful boys, you would know that if you got passed your jealousy. I think it's the coach you don't like, don't assume the boys are the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait until the Crush tryouts when other great new players start showing up and the current bottom 2/3 of the roster gets the ole' "heave [lacrosse]!"
That'll be delicious.

Which top players would leave their team to sit the bench on Crush? And why would that be "delicious" you are a sick person. Everyone out there is trying to do the best for their kids. it just so happens that Crush has the top recruits in the age group plus a couple connected kids starting. No other kid is cracking the starting line up, sorry to tell you. If a kid from another team is even good enough to make the team, he should run for the hills as fast as he can moving into important recruiting years. As for the kids who get less playing time, some may belong to great HS programs and the skills they have will allow them to shine there and at recruiting showcases. You should really mind your business and stop obsessing over Crush. Your green eyes are unsportsmanlike.

Will be tough but good life lessons for both the kids and the parents. The handwringing and worrying by the parents has started already. Most you already kind of have a feeling that you are probably on the way out based on playing time in the final game in Denver. The reaction of the parents who are asked to leave Crush will be delicious. My advice would be to find a program with 1 team per grade. Don't fall for the B team - its a message that your son is only valued for your family checkbook.

The way you carry on about Crush must mean your kid was cut or didn't make it at some point. Do you not know that the same thing goes on at Legacy and Express? I know some very unhappy people on both those teams that have traveled to away tournaments and kids barely saw the field. Why single out Crush? What so you think happens in college? Most kids ride the bench, that's what. They were good enough to be recruited at some point, but some peak, lose interest, ect. Playing time is earned, nothing is guaranteed. If your not happy with what's going on, work harder or try a different team or sport. These are personal decisions. Hating on these kids is a terrible thing to do by an adult, you should be ashamed of yourself! The kids you are bashing are wonderful boys, you would know that if you got passed your jealousy. I think it's the coach you don't like, don't assume the boys are the same.

Relax, take a breath. The post never criticized or said anything negative about the character or ability of the boys - that perceived criticism must be permanently etching in your brain, not what was written. There will be turnover - and probably a lot of it. That's the baseline state of the elite club swamp. Unless you are one of the top 5, brace yourself for disappointment, its going to be a shock otherwise.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait until the Crush tryouts when other great new players start showing up and the current bottom 2/3 of the roster gets the ole' "heave [lacrosse]!"
That'll be delicious.

Which top players would leave their team to sit the bench on Crush? And why would that be "delicious" you are a sick person. Everyone out there is trying to do the best for their kids. it just so happens that Crush has the top recruits in the age group plus a couple connected kids starting. No other kid is cracking the starting line up, sorry to tell you. If a kid from another team is even good enough to make the team, he should run for the hills as fast as he can moving into important recruiting years. As for the kids who get less playing time, some may belong to great HS programs and the skills they have will allow them to shine there and at recruiting showcases. You should really mind your business and stop obsessing over Crush. Your green eyes are unsportsmanlike.

Will be tough but good life lessons for both the kids and the parents. The handwringing and worrying by the parents has started already. Most you already kind of have a feeling that you are probably on the way out based on playing time in the final game in Denver. The reaction of the parents who are asked to leave Crush will be delicious. My advice would be to find a program with 1 team per grade. Don't fall for the B team - its a message that your son is only valued for your family checkbook.

The way you carry on about Crush must mean your kid was cut or didn't make it at some point. Do you not know that the same thing goes on at Legacy and Express? I know some very unhappy people on both those teams that have traveled to away tournaments and kids barely saw the field. Why single out Crush? What so you think happens in college? Most kids ride the bench, that's what. They were good enough to be recruited at some point, but some peak, lose interest, ect. Playing time is earned, nothing is guaranteed. If your not happy with what's going on, work harder or try a different team or sport. These are personal decisions. Hating on these kids is a terrible thing to do by an adult, you should be ashamed of yourself! The kids you are bashing are wonderful boys, you would know that if you got passed your jealousy. I think it's the coach you don't like, don't assume the boys are the same.

Relax, take a breath. The post never criticized or said anything negative about the character or ability of the boys - that perceived criticism must be permanently etching in your brain, not what was written. There will be turnover - and probably a lot of it. That's the baseline state of the elite club swamp. Unless you are one of the top 5, brace yourself for disappointment, its going to be a shock otherwise.

Actually you did criticize. What was it you said, will be "delicious"? That is downright creepy. Unfortunately for your sick line of thought, There will be little to no movement on the Crush team because for the most part, the kids are all happy to be there, despite the lack of playing time, and any other top player who is used to starting on their team will not on Crush, so it would be pointless to make that move. Some kids will leave Crush, better tell your son to watch out! My own son is solid, just can't believe the perception and speculation by outsiders looking in thinking they know a clue! I'll wave at you after the championship game this weekend when you walk away the loser that you are!

it's just human nature to want to see an arrogant and cocky sob like Spalina fail. Like the turtles before them, people on the outside just want to see it unravel, or at least hit some bumps in the road. If your not on the inside, you want to see it implode so you don't feel like your missing anything. Nothing goes smoothly indefinitely in the elite club world so there will be jilted parents that come on here eventually and make a stink. When that happens, that's what will be delicious for the rest of us. And it will happen.

C'mon man. Lighten up a bit. This is all fun and games. Not life and death if it doesn't work out. It's nothing more than a game, lets not forget that. Cheers.

You people on both sides of this, especially the crush side, are so tightly wrapped about this - coiled and ready to strike at the slightest thing. You act like there's no other way for your kids to get to college except lax and you'll defend it to the apocalypse. How about they open a book instead of pick up a stick? Would it be so horrific if they didn't play lax in college or is that the only route?

This whole thread is just sad. Having had an older son cut from a team at one point, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. It's horrible for the kid to go through. Shame on anyone that has expressed that thought. Karma is a [lacrosse].

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My order crush, express, legacy Taz, fl$, vipers, igloo, true blue, outlaws. I do believe crush will be beat next year kids are starting to hit it now. As for express I do believe they can be beat right now if you have a good fogo. There best years are behind them. Legacy Taz is definitely at least 3rd being that they have beaten all the rest of the teams than there is the rest. A few kids on those other teams should look to jump on the other top teams this year before the recruiting tournaments begin to get your kids in the best spot!!! Just an opinion

Hey Outlaws coach/parent/supporter, your team does not belong in the list of the top 8 in this age. That is based on results so not opinion, simple fact. Attempting to recruit new players off the more successful teams through this message board reeks of desperation. That team was better 2 years ago than it is now. Any parent whose son is thinking of switching teams should ask themselves why that is and find an answer before taking any action. Just an opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My order crush, express, legacy Taz, fl$, vipers, igloo, true blue, outlaws. I do believe crush will be beat next year kids are starting to hit it now. As for express I do believe they can be beat right now if you have a good fogo. There best years are behind them. Legacy Taz is definitely at least 3rd being that they have beaten all the rest of the teams than there is the rest. A few kids on those other teams should look to jump on the other top teams this year before the recruiting tournaments begin to get your kids in the best spot!!! Just an opinion

Hey Outlaws coach/parent/supporter, your team does not belong in the list of the top 8 in this age. That is based on results so not opinion, simple fact. Attempting to recruit new players off the more successful teams through this message board reeks of desperation. That team was better 2 years ago than it is now. Any parent whose son is thinking of switching teams should ask themselves why that is and find an answer before taking any action. Just an opinion.

I have been around this youth sport for many years now, having a son who is a college senior midfielder at a mid major D1 school and a son who is currently a 2020 on a decent, solid team. While I do not necessarily believe Crush will remain unbeatable forever, I believe in the age group they will certainly be extremely difficult to beat even in years to come. What I do think will begin to happen is that you will see an end to the days of the 20 goal blow outs, and the total dominance will come to an end when they play the better teams on the island or away. I would say the closest team to them at this point would be the Long Island Express 2020 Terps. Again this is just an opinion based on having had the opportunity to see both teams play against my son.

Top 5 2020 Teams (FWIW)

1 - Crush
2 - Looney's
3 - Edge
4 - NH Tomahawks
5 - Crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 5 2020 Teams (FWIW)

1 - Crush
2 - Looney's
3 - Edge
4 - NH Tomahawks
5 - Crabs

What team is Edge?
Tomahawks tied Terps and beat Laxachusetts by 1 who beat Terps by 1. Laxachusetts also split games with Legacy the week before. Point is, Terps, Legacy, Tomahawks and Laxachusetts are all really good and in any given game, have shown the ability to beat (and lose) to each other.

Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

If you read Edges website for their 2020 team- they list them as the top kids from 2001 and 2002. They readily speak of reclassifying and needing to do so by 8/9th grade. I wouldn't doubt that most of their players are a full year older than many teams at the 2020 age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

If you read Edges website for their 2020 team- they list them as the top kids from 2001 and 2002. They readily speak of reclassifying and needing to do so by 8/9th grade. I wouldn't doubt that most of their players are a full year older than many teams at the 2020 age.

2001/2002 is 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

And crush will beat them by 20'and there will be like 10 kids on the bench who never see the field. classy organization.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

If you read Edges website for their 2020 team- they list them as the top kids from 2001 and 2002. They readily speak of reclassifying and needing to do so by 8/9th grade. I wouldn't doubt that most of their players are a full year older than many teams at the 2020 age.

2001/2002 is 2020.

Edge 2020 is a wierd team. They can beat really good teams and lose games they shouldn't lose. Would actually like to see them play Crush. Their style/size could pose matchup problems for them.

Looneys lost to Express, Legacy, Sons and FCA so not sure if their #2

Canadians huh? Yeah ok. stick to hockey CFL football and ice fishing

WOW - so it's such a common occurrence that Canada actively tells their teams to reclassify to compete. I'm surprised they call 2020 U13. A 2020 kid up here is 12 and 13 and is classified as U15 (7th and 8th grade this past spring) up here in MA.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Canadians huh? Yeah ok. stick to hockey CFL football and ice fishing

Don't be a xenophobe. Edge is also part of NLF, they are a legit club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys lost to Express, Legacy, Sons and FCA so not sure if their #2

Everyone from that list but FCA is in Philly this weekend, should be fun.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

If you read Edges website for their 2020 team- they list them as the top kids from 2001 and 2002. They readily speak of reclassifying and needing to do so by 8/9th grade. I wouldn't doubt that most of their players are a full year older than many teams at the 2020 age.

2001/2002 is 2020.

One month in NY of 2001 and 4 months in most other states at 2001- not the entire 2001 year. That's why grade makes no sense- in Edge all of 2001 can be 2020. Their is no rhyme and reason to how old the kids can be anymore in grade year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

If you read Edges website for their 2020 team- they list them as the top kids from 2001 and 2002. They readily speak of reclassifying and needing to do so by 8/9th grade. I wouldn't doubt that most of their players are a full year older than many teams at the 2020 age.

2001/2002 is 2020.

True, I was thinking second half of 2001. Jan 2001, unlike hockey, is not 2020.

One month in NY of 2001 and 4 months in most other states at 2001- not the entire 2001 year. That's why grade makes no sense- in Edge all of 2001 can be 2020. Their is no rhyme and reason to how old the kids can be anymore in grade year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Canadians huh? Yeah ok. stick to hockey CFL football and ice fishing

Lacrosse is Canada's national sport you fool.

Just what this board needs angry Canadiens

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Canadians huh? Yeah ok. stick to hockey CFL football and ice fishing

Lacrosse is Canada's national sport you fool.

And the reigning world games champs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Canadians huh? Yeah ok. stick to hockey CFL football and ice fishing

Lacrosse is Canada's national sport you fool.

Then they should honor the game and stop cheating. Guess that is the only way they can get an "edge" on their smarter, and more athletic big USA brother!

If I pulled all the 2001 birth years off my 2019 team and put them on our 2020 we would beat everyone handily. And even give Crush a competitive game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

Edges for their 2020 team- they list them as the top kids from 2001 and 2002. They readily speak of reclassifying and needing to do so by 8/9th grade. I wouldn't doubt that most of their players are a full year older than many teams at the 2020 age.[/

Just like Crabs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

Edges for their 2020 team- they list them as the top kids from 2001 and 2002. They readily speak of reclassifying and needing to do so by 8/9th grade. I wouldn't doubt that most of their players are a full year older than many teams at the 2020 age.[/

Just like Crabs.

Snow Crabs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous] Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

Edges for their 2020 team- they list them as the top kids from 2001 and 2002. They readily speak of reclassifying and needing to do so by 8/9th grade. I wouldn't doubt that most of their players are a full year older than many teams at the 2020 age.[/

Just like Crabs.

Tomahawks have a kid born in May 2000 on their roster!

Snow Crabs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Canadians huh? Yeah ok. stick to hockey CFL football and ice fishing

Lacrosse is Canada's national sport you fool.

ok ya hoser!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

Edges for their 2020 team- they list them as the top kids from 2001 and 2002. They readily speak of reclassifying and needing to do so by 8/9th grade. I wouldn't doubt that most of their players are a full year older than many teams at the 2020 age.[/

Just like Crabs.

Tomahawks have a kid born in May 2000 on their roster!

shhhh....don't tell anyone that other teams have older kids (even though we know many do) That way we can exclusively reserve the cheater label for the Crabs and continue the fallacy that they are the only team with holdbacks. By the way every Crabs player is at least 2 years older.....pass it on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Edge is from Canada. Big, skilled. Beat Crabs by 5, but lost to Tomahawks in final at NSCLA.

Edges for their 2020 team- they list them as the top kids from 2001 and 2002. They readily speak of reclassifying and needing to do so by 8/9th grade. I wouldn't doubt that most of their players are a full year older than many teams at the 2020 age.[/

Just like Crabs.

Tomahawks have a kid born in May 2000 on their roster!

shhhh....don't tell anyone that other teams have older kids (even though we know many do) That way we can exclusively reserve the cheater label for the Crabs and continue the fallacy that they are the only team with holdbacks. By the way every Crabs player is at least 2 years older.....pass it on

Perhaps, but did he play the whole season for the 2019 team, show up for one tournament with the 2020 team, and then go back to his 2019 team the next week? That's what the Crabs do.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how good the Cincy Royals are? We're not playing them, but we've never heard of them.

Respectable showing by the royals today.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I pulled all the 2001 birth years off my 2019 team and put them on our 2020 we would beat everyone handily. And even give Crush a competitive game.

Let's face it, from may 2001 on, MOST of those kids are 2020. It is VERY common for "summer" birthday boys to be "held" by their parents before they start K.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I pulled all the 2001 birth years off my 2019 team and put them on our 2020 we would beat everyone handily. And even give Crush a competitive game.

Let's face it, from may 2001 on, MOST of those kids are 2020. It is VERY common for "summer" birthday boys to be "held" by their parents before they start K.

In your date- May is a late birthday- in NY that is not the case. Late starters are Oct and Nov 2001- which is still on grade for other states. Thus, once again pointing out why grad year is all over the place.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If I pulled all the 2001 birth years off my 2019 team and put them on our 2020 we would beat everyone handily. And even give Crush a competitive game.

Let's face it, from may 2001 on, MOST of those kids are 2020. It is VERY common for "summer" birthday boys to be "held" by their parents before they start K.

Common in the world of Privates for sure. Does happen in Public schools but nothing like in Private Prep schools were its the norm to hold your child back.

Hey express you ready to exit stage left in the 1st round?!

Dang Looneys was close with 91.... That was unexpected

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dang Looneys was close with 91.... That was unexpected

FloGo makes a big difference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dang Looneys was close with 91.... That was unexpected

Score? It isn't posted

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dang Looneys was close with 91.... That was unexpected

Wow, 7-6, 91 just posted. Must have been a good game!

And the "they cheated" begins in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

7-6 wow. trip to Philly......there was definitely crush kids who didn't play a second.

Great games and great teams Express, Legacy and Sons all played great. Looney's barely edged out Terps, played and beat a tough and competitive Legacy team (Legacy beat Sons) and Looney's gave 91 a run for their money but fell short, 91 is still the best 2020 team in the country. Fogo for Looney's was dominant against 91, goalie, defense, middies and attack were strong but at the end of the day Crush had the most complete and dominant team at the tourney.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dang Looneys was close with 91.... That was unexpected

FloGo makes a big difference.

Yeah it does. I heard he's trying out for FCA next year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And the "they cheated" begins in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

You all can debate if it's cheating or not. But looneys does have hold back/older kids.

Express is now behind 91 and soon Legacy.

Crush is still #1 but Looney's are in the conversation to make into the top five. Express, Legacy, Crabs and Sons are all top teams. Looney's also won last week.

Sons not really a top five any longer. Not as dominant as once were and behind Crabs and possibly Hawks. They lost to Legacy Taz by 3 and beat Breakers by only 1. FoGO is not as dominant as Looneys and Crush's. Legacy clearly dominated the game and Sons would probably have lost to Breakers too but for a few questionable calls.

The fact is, there are plenty of really good teams at 2020. 91, Crabs, Loonies, Express, Legacy, Sons, Freedom, Laxchusetts, Breakers and I am probably missing some others. Totally pointless to argue who is best, plenty of great talent out there!! I personally love great competitve games. On any give day, a match up of any of the teams listed could go either way! Good luck to all the boys at this age group!

It was a great game looneys won almost every faceoff and slowed the game to a slow crawl smart move played keep away

You might be right but if express kids don't start to grow and get tougher it won't be long. Tryouts are coming up we will see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons not really a top five any longer. Not as dominant as once were and behind Crabs and possibly Hawks. They lost to Legacy Taz by 3 and beat Breakers by only 1. FoGO is not as dominant as Looneys and Crush's. Legacy clearly dominated the game and Sons would probably have lost to Breakers too but for a few questionable calls.

Calls were questionable throughout the tourney for everyone. Breakers freestyles it more than other top level teams. More single man play/shooting; less passing and playing as a team than Sons is why they lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a great game looneys won almost every faceoff and slowed the game to a slow crawl smart move played keep away

Guess it pays to have FOGOs from out of state! If you watched the game, there was a big size differential between the Looneys and Crush. Crush is the more skilled team but they needed the ball to show it and the size and Looneys FOGO made the difference. Would be surprised if it is more than just a rumor that he will switch to FCA next year. No incentive if your team is already #2! Great game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a great game looneys won almost every faceoff and slowed the game to a slow crawl smart move played keep away

Guess it pays to have FOGOs from out of state! If you watched the game, there was a big size differential between the Looneys and Crush. Crush is the more skilled team but they needed the ball to show it and the size and Looneys FOGO made the difference. Would be surprised if it is more than just a rumor that he will switch to FCA next year. No incentive if your team is already #2! Great game.

Unfortunately they still lost the game. Skill trumped size one again. Many holbacks on that team including the fogo, who was very good, dominating ALL the Long Island boys. Why does he feel the need to play down? He should be able to do great in his real age group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a great game looneys won almost every faceoff and slowed the game to a slow crawl smart move played keep away

Guess it pays to have FOGOs from out of state! If you watched the game, there was a big size differential between the Looneys and Crush. Crush is the more skilled team but they needed the ball to show it and the size and Looneys FOGO made the difference. Would be surprised if it is more than just a rumor that he will switch to FCA next year. No incentive if your team is already #2! Great game.

Next year is when a lot of kids start to move so I wouldnt be surprised if starters from each team move to a different club. Next year Looneys FCA and Crabs will be the best teams in the area

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a great game looneys won almost every faceoff and slowed the game to a slow crawl smart move played keep away

It was about 11/17 not "nearly all" but kid was very good! Appeared to be older and more developed. Watched a few games he played in and he performed very well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was a great game looneys won almost every faceoff and slowed the game to a slow crawl smart move played keep away

Guess it pays to have FOGOs from out of state! If you watched the game, there was a big size differential between the Looneys and Crush. Crush is the more skilled team but they needed the ball to show it and the size and Looneys FOGO made the difference. Would be surprised if it is more than just a rumor that he will switch to FCA next year. No incentive if your team is already #2! Great game.

Next year is when a lot of kids start to move so I wouldnt be surprised if starters from each team move to a different club. Next year Looneys FCA and Crabs will be the best teams in the area

Coincidentally next year is a big holdback year and each of the teams mentioned love their holdbacks.

Fogo for the Looney's was not bigger or stronger but dominated Team 91's face off kids, he may have lost a few but not many. I also believe the Legacy and Express fogo''s performed better than Team 91, add a few kids to those two LI teams in the off season and it's possible they compete and possibly beat Team 91. For now Team 91 is the best in the country and will continue to get better but as the boys age in this overly competitive age division the disparity between teams should not be as drastic as it once was.

Breakers scored 3 goals very late in the game vs Sons. That game was in hand until the very end. Sons outplayed Legacy the second half of their game. Had plenty, I mean plenty of opportunities to score, hit cross bar and pipe numerous times and goalie made huge saves from crease shots. Legacy had 3 man up goals. Many even teams at 2020. Looneys definitely earned their trip to finals.

fogo is major difference for many teams. Legacy won all but 3 face offs vs Sons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sons not really a top five any longer. Not as dominant as once were and behind Crabs and possibly Hawks. They lost to Legacy Taz by 3 and beat Breakers by only 1. FoGO is not as dominant as Looneys and Crush's. Legacy clearly dominated the game and Sons would probably have lost to Breakers too but for a few questionable calls.

Calls were questionable throughout the tourney for everyone. Breakers freestyles it more than other top level teams. More single man play/shooting; less passing and playing as a team than Sons is why they lost.

Not playing organized as a team will fail against the best teams every time. Maybe the lacrosse IQ just isn't there yet or is it kids trying to be superstars?

How did the Looneys goalie and 91 goalie play in the final?

Looney's and Team 91 goalies were both lights out all weekend, two very talented kids. In the finals both kids made critical saves.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fogo is major difference for many teams. Legacy won all but 3 face offs vs Sons.

But he didn't do well against Looneys. Througout,the tournament, Express and Legacy and 91 FOGOs did very well. However, They all had trouble with Looneys kid. Back to practice for all of them!

Legacy kid did very well against lioness fogo until he sprained his ankle and couldn't compete anymore hence the score 3 to 1 at half. The game was lost when he got hurt and no face off kid after him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

fogo is major difference for many teams. Legacy won all but 3 face offs vs Sons.

But he didn't do well against Looneys. Througout,the tournament, Express and Legacy and 91 FOGOs did very well. However, They all had trouble with Looneys kid. Back to practice for all of them!

Of course they would have trouble with the a DELETED kid cause he is a hold back.

All of the above fogos are very talented, let's not forget that all of these "kids" are hard working and extremely dedicated to their craft, let's try and stay positive.

You are dangerously close to identifying players. Please do not do this!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy kid did very well against lioness fogo until he sprained his ankle and couldn't compete anymore hence the score 3 to 1 at half. The game was lost when he got hurt and no face off kid after him.

Face offs were 3-1 Looneys at half.

Congrats to 91. Way to keep the mantle on LI. That being said, its not the Crush dads that are out of control its the pack of butch orange Moms...Jesus can some one sign them up for an etiquette class they clearly missed while partying their way through the Boardy barn, sprats and the oak beach in while growing up on LI...

#123037 - 06/29/15 06:35 PM Re: Looney's Boys Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]
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I heard Looneys goalie, best middie, face off kid from fla are all going to fca.

No the score was 3 to 1 legacy at half. Face offs were probably 3 to 1 also. Was a great tournament by all...!!! That's the kind of tournament we should all want to play and be in every week. Great job to all the teams. Keep laxin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

#123037 - 06/29/15 06:35 PM Re: Looney's Boys Lacrosse [Re: Anonymous]
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I heard Looneys goalie, best middie, face off kid from fla are all going to fca.

Yes, someone keeps brining that up but it would be surprising given the success they've had recently. Why go from the #1 or 2 team in the area to #5?

I guess we'll know in a few weeks.

Why you ask $$$$$ free lacrosse. That's why!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why you ask $$$$$ free lacrosse. That's why!!!

Is that supposed to be an inappropriate word or do they play for free?

Free brother

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Free brother

That would seem pretty shortsighted at this level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After Crush what's the order on LI

Express
fl$
Legacy
True Blue
Empire
?

You will have some good data after this weekend.

Any team come out of weekend in better or worse positioning?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

After Crush what's the order on LI

Express
fl$
Legacy
True Blue
Empire
?

You will have some good data after this weekend.

Any team come out of weekend in better or worse positioning?

Legacy and Express are close, they haven't played in a while and comparative scoring has been inconsistent, but both are leaps and bounds better than the rest of the pack

Save it fl$ not better than legacy already been proven. Express should drop down to number 3 after tournament results I heard fl$ scored more against crush. Crush totally dominated express wasn't even a game. That's the end of the season let the tryouts begin everybody looking for a few upgrades or fall behind.

crush. legacy, Express, fl$, Express B, Igloo, True Blue, outlaws.

How about the Jersey teams? Leading Edge, Patriot, BBL, Steps Other? Turnpike (haven't seen them all summer)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

crush. legacy, Express, fl$, Express B, Igloo, True Blue, outlaws.

Crush, Express/Legacy, fl$, Viper, Igloo, True Blue, Express B, Outlaws

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Save it fl$ not better than legacy already been proven. Express should drop down to number 3 after tournament results I heard fl$ scored more against crush. Crush totally dominated express wasn't even a game. That's the end of the season let the tryouts begin everybody looking for a few upgrades or fall behind.

Express lost 1 goal game to Looney's, who then beat Legacy 9-3. Crush beat up Express this time, and it wasn't ever close. To say Express drops to #3 isn't accurate, as they played Looney's closer than Legacy and has never lost to Legacy. Lots of holdbacks moving around that could alter landscape. Congrats to Crush who hasn't had to go that route and still dominates.

If legacy fogo doesn't get hurt legacy beats looneys. The score was 5 to 3 with 5 minutes to go. Than pulled goalie to try and get ball back and the end of story. Next year big year for all teams everybody fighting for position. Doesn't matter who is number 2 3 4. Get your kid on the best possible team where they will see the field and make a difference. College coaches don't look at kids sitting the bench cheering if you believe they do I got a bridge to sell you.!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If legacy fogo doesn't get hurt legacy beats looneys. The score was 5 to 3 with 5 minutes to go. Than pulled goalie to try and get ball back and the end of story. Next year big year for all teams everybody fighting for position. Doesn't matter who is number 2 3 4. Get your kid on the best possible team where they will see the field and make a difference. College coaches don't look at kids sitting the bench cheering if you believe they do I got a bridge to sell you.!!!

Nobody cares, you lost and you are bragging about things that didn't happen. Move on dad, and focus on what comes next!

legacy was up 3-1 at the half. Legacy switched goalies at the half and that was the end of the story. Had nothing to do with face offs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

legacy was up 3-1 at the half. Legacy switched goalies at the half and that was the end of the story. Had nothing to do with face offs.

The whole team lost, not just the goalie, end of story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

legacy was up 3-1 at the half. Legacy switched goalies at the half and that was the end of the story. Had nothing to do with face offs.

The whole team lost, not just the goalie, end of story.

Only an idiot would blame a goalie.

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

legacy was up 3-1 at the half. Legacy switched goalies at the half and that was the end of the story. Had nothing to do with face offs.

The whole team lost, not just the goalie, end of story.

Only an idiot would blame a goalie.

Goalie is easily the hardest Position on the lacrosse field

Loonies didn't score a single goal with the goalie out of the cage. Next excuse?? Congratulation on winning the first half 3-1 and losing the second 7-0.

Totally agree!!!!! You win as a team you lose as a team!!! Obviously bunch of jerkoffs on here trying to stir the pot.

Blaming the goalie, clearly someone who has never played.

Strong Island! Sprats, Boardie Barn, OBI, 91 Moms. LOL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why you ask $$$$$ free lacrosse. That's why!!!

doubt it very much, the one player flies into games on his family jet, not plane, money is not an issue!

when you are spending approx. $2000.00 to fly in and out for tournaments, I don't think the parents blink an eye at the Looney's dues, which are quite reasonable with regards to club lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Save it fl$ not better than legacy already been proven. Express should drop down to number 3 after tournament results I heard fl$ scored more against crush. Crush totally dominated express wasn't even a game. That's the end of the season let the tryouts begin everybody looking for a few upgrades or fall behind.

Express lost 1 goal game to Looney's, who then beat Legacy 9-3. Crush beat up Express this time, and it wasn't ever close. To say Express drops to #3 isn't accurate, as they played Looney's closer than Legacy and has never lost to Legacy. Lots of holdbacks moving around that could alter landscape. Congrats to Crush who hasn't had to go that route and still dominates.

Im confused? I didn't think there were ANY holdbacks on LI?

Great job looney coming from a legacy parent you guys played a great game and showed heart. Whoever is talking [lacrosse] is not with us!! Congrats again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

legacy was up 3-1 at the half. Legacy switched goalies at the half and that was the end of the story. Had nothing to do with face offs.

Cage how is this not calling out a kid? So the Defense or the middies had nothing to do with it. This is such a silly statement.
Is the goalie also responsible for the offense not scoring.

And they say 91 is crazy? I think Legacy is going Looney over a silly tournament! They lost and are now they are blaming their own players? Parents making up stats, and faking injuries? Wow!

The goalie in question is the reason Legacy beat Sons and was even in the next round.
Also the bashing is coming from a Looneys parent who thankfully due to electronic tracking has been identified and their name and address will be posted if the BS continues.

Think about it before you write do you actually believe someone from legacy our team would be talking [lacrosse] like that we lost fair and square looneys beat us we still had a great tournament and a great year and need to build on this and we will this team has only been put together in October 2014!! Can't be prouder of these boys and there coaches!!! Everybody worry about there own team and what you could do better!! We will do the same!!

Goalie should never be held responsible for a loss. Yes they will have abad game once in a while and you can't cover it up as easily as a field player, but they should not be singled out. At this age all players are still developing. With goalies it's extremely difficult to say how they will be in a few years. I don't think you can say any goalie will be great from this age group right now. Let it play out, this kid your singling out may be the best of the bunch in HS. You never know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

legacy was up 3-1 at the half. Legacy switched goalies at the half and that was the end of the story. Had nothing to do with face offs.

Cage how is this not calling out a kid? So the Defense or the middies had nothing to do with it. This is such a silly statement.
Is the goalie also responsible for the offense not scoring. Give the keepers kudos for saving their pathetic asses. Knock off trying to defend the "real problem" in the game.

As the mother of a goal keeper I have to call you total imbeciles out on this one. The
Keeper can't win anything, he can only keep a team in the game. DO NOT [lacrosse] ME OFF. The loser offensive players as well as the mid field and defensive ( get the picture) lose these games. Games are not lost by the keeper.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Goalie should never be held responsible for a loss. Yes they will have abad game once in a while and you can't cover it up as easily as a field player, but they should not be singled out. At this age all players are still developing. With goalies it's extremely difficult to say how they will be in a few years. I don't think you can say any goalie will be great from this age group right now. Let it play out, this kid your singling out may be the best of the bunch in HS. You never know.

Parents trying to cover up the real reason a game was lost. Their kid. Offense, mid, defense. Hello.

I was an athlete growing up, but I never played lacrosse and was only introduced to the game recently through my boys. I give a lot of respect to any kid who's willing to stand in that net with a lacrosse ball being launched at them just a few feet away from them. Singling out a kid goalie is pretty low

Now that the seasons are wrapping up can we get a ranking of the 2020AA teams?

Clearly 91 at the top

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was an athlete growing up, but I never played lacrosse and was only introduced to the game recently through my boys. I give a lot of respect to any kid who's willing to stand in that net with a lacrosse ball being launched at them just a few feet away from them. Singling out a kid goalie is pretty low

In the 2020 age group assume that the average kid can shoot 50 mph on the run, perhaps faster. Most of the shots are coming within 10 yards of the cage (30 feet). A ball traveling 50 mph goes 73 feet per second, so a goalie has less than a half a second to react and save the ball. I don't care how quick you are, or how good you are, any goalie playing for a top club team has to be respected and any save they make is a good one. The difference between these top goalies is slight and all should be applauded for getting in there in the first place.

I played hockey as a youth and 4 years in college, and two rules we had were never blame your goalie (even if he was a sieve) and never let him get to drunk the night before a game. hopefully only the first rule applies at this age but something to remember for down the road. Cant have your last line of defense hung over.

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Goalie should never be held responsible for a loss. Yes they will have abad game once in a while and you can't cover it up as easily as a field player, but they should not be singled out. At this age all players are still developing. With goalies it's extremely difficult to say how they will be in a few years. I don't think you can say any goalie will be great from this age group right now. Let it play out, this kid your singling out may be the best of the bunch in HS. You never know.

Parents trying to cover up the real reason a game was lost. Their kid. Offense, mid, defense. Hello.

One kid does not lose a game. If it comes down to one goal, the whole team contributes to that. You could blame any of the mistakes made, or opportunities not taken, shots missed, etc., not just the last one, although that always seems to get the most attention. Win as a team, lose as a team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that the seasons are wrapping up can we get a ranking of the 2020AA teams?

Clearly 91 at the top

It's hard to rank 2-5, there are a number of teams that can probably beat each other on any given day, especially now with many teams reclassing kids. Those in the conversation are Express, Legacy, Crabs, Loonies, Laxachusettes and NH Tomahawks. Would be a great 6 team tourney if someone could arrange it in the fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Goalie should never be held responsible for a loss. Yes they will have abad game once in a while and you can't cover it up as easily as a field player, but they should not be singled out. At this age all players are still developing. With goalies it's extremely difficult to say how they will be in a few years. I don't think you can say any goalie will be great from this age group right now. Let it play out, this kid your singling out may be the best of the bunch in HS. You never know.

Parents trying to cover up the real reason a game was lost. Their kid. Offense, mid, defense. Hello.

One kid does not lose a game. If it comes down to one goal, the whole team contributes to that. You could blame any of the mistakes made, or opportunities not taken, shots missed, etc., not just the last one, although that always seems to get the most attention. Win as a team, lose as a team!

A field player makes a mistake and it is forgotten after the play. Why is the goalie the goat?

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Goalie should never be held responsible for a loss. Yes they will have abad game once in a while and you can't cover it up as easily as a field player, but they should not be singled out. At this age all players are still developing. With goalies it's extremely difficult to say how they will be in a few years. I don't think you can say any goalie will be great from this age group right now. Let it play out, this kid your singling out may be the best of the bunch in HS. You never know.

Parents trying to cover up the real reason a game was lost. Their kid. Offense, mid, defense. Hello.

One kid does not lose a game. If it comes down to one goal, the whole team contributes to that. You could blame any of the mistakes made, or opportunities not taken, shots missed, etc., not just the last one, although that always seems to get the most attention. Win as a team, lose as a team!

A field player makes a mistake and it is forgotten after the play. Why is the goalie the goat?

the goalie is the goat because, many parents didn't play lax and the ones who did probably never played between the pipes.

unfortunately though, when a goalie doesn't make the save, the play is done and you have about a minute to reflect on the missed save until play resumes. when the middy, attack or d screw up play is normally still going and you don't have that pause in the game like the goalie does.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was an athlete growing up, but I never played lacrosse and was only introduced to the game recently through my boys. I give a lot of respect to any kid who's willing to stand in that net with a lacrosse ball being launched at them just a few feet away from them. Singling out a kid goalie is pretty low

In the 2020 age group assume that the average kid can shoot 50 mph on the run, perhaps faster. Most of the shots are coming within 10 yards of the cage (30 feet). A ball traveling 50 mph goes 73 feet per second, so a goalie has less than a half a second to react and save the ball. I don't care how quick you are, or how good you are, any goalie playing for a top club team has to be respected and any save they make is a good one. The difference between these top goalies is slight and all should be applauded for getting in there in the first place.

50 MPH? How about 75 to 90...my 2024 shoots it 60

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Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Goalie should never be held responsible for a loss. Yes they will have abad game once in a while and you can't cover it up as easily as a field player, but they should not be singled out. At this age all players are still developing. With goalies it's extremely difficult to say how they will be in a few years. I don't think you can say any goalie will be great from this age group right now. Let it play out, this kid your singling out may be the best of the bunch in HS. You never know.

Parents trying to cover up the real reason a game was lost. Their kid. Offense, mid, defense. Hello.

One kid does not lose a game. If it comes down to one goal, the whole team contributes to that. You could blame any of the mistakes made, or opportunities not taken, shots missed, etc., not just the last one, although that always seems to get the most attention. Win as a team, lose as a team!

A field player makes a mistake and it is forgotten after the play. Why is the goalie the goat?

the goalie is the goat because, many parents didn't play lax and the ones who did probably never played between the pipes.

unfortunately though, when a goalie doesn't make the save, the play is done and you have about a minute to reflect on the missed save until play resumes. when the middy, attack or d screw up play is normally still going and you don't have that pause in the game like the goalie does.

Unless the goalie is running down the field, trying to score.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Goalie should never be held responsible for a loss. Yes they will have abad game once in a while and you can't cover it up as easily as a field player, but they should not be singled out. At this age all players are still developing. With goalies it's extremely difficult to say how they will be in a few years. I don't think you can say any goalie will be great from this age group right now. Let it play out, this kid your singling out may be the best of the bunch in HS. You never know.

Parents trying to cover up the real reason a game was lost. Their kid. Offense, mid, defense. Hello.

One kid does not lose a game. If it comes down to one goal, the whole team contributes to that. You could blame any of the mistakes made, or opportunities not taken, shots missed, etc., not just the last one, although that always seems to get the most attention. Win as a team, lose as a team!

A field player makes a mistake and it is forgotten after the play. Why is the goalie the goat?

the goalie is the goat because, many parents didn't play lax and the ones who did probably never played between the pipes.

unfortunately though, when a goalie doesn't make the save, the play is done and you have about a minute to reflect on the missed save until play resumes. when the middy, attack or d screw up play is normally still going and you don't have that pause in the game like the goalie does.

Unless the goalie is running down the field, trying to score.

you are kidding, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was an athlete growing up, but I never played lacrosse and was only introduced to the game recently through my boys. I give a lot of respect to any kid who's willing to stand in that net with a lacrosse ball being launched at them just a few feet away from them. Singling out a kid goalie is pretty low

In the 2020 age group assume that the average kid can shoot 50 mph on the run, perhaps faster. Most of the shots are coming within 10 yards of the cage (30 feet). A ball traveling 50 mph goes 73 feet per second, so a goalie has less than a half a second to react and save the ball. I don't care how quick you are, or how good you are, any goalie playing for a top club team has to be respected and any save they make is a good one. The difference between these top goalies is slight and all should be applauded for getting in there in the first place.

50 MPH? How about 75 to 90...my 2024 shoots it 60

I'm talking about a dodge where they're shooting on the run not a time and space wind up. And the point is that the ball is moving fast, I don't care if it's 40 mph that's still a ridiculously short reaction time.

The good news if he scores like that Albany goalie (after splitting two defenders and making a pump fake) he gets the highlight on ESPN's Top Ten Plays!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was an athlete growing up, but I never played lacrosse and was only introduced to the game recently through my boys. I give a lot of respect to any kid who's willing to stand in that net with a lacrosse ball being launched at them just a few feet away from them. Singling out a kid goalie is pretty low

In the 2020 age group assume that the average kid can shoot 50 mph on the run, perhaps faster. Most of the shots are coming within 10 yards of the cage (30 feet). A ball traveling 50 mph goes 73 feet per second, so a goalie has less than a half a second to react and save the ball. I don't care how quick you are, or how good you are, any goalie playing for a top club team has to be respected and any save they make is a good one. The difference between these top goalies is slight and all should be applauded for getting in there in the first place.

50 MPH? How about 75 to 90...my 2024 shoots it 60

I'm talking about a dodge where they're shooting on the run not a time and space wind up. And the point is that the ball is moving fast, I don't care if it's 40 mph that's still a ridiculously short reaction time.

Agreed.

Sons shot 14 shots the second half 10 of them on cage, only one made it past Legacy Goalie, he was terrific. Legacy shot 5 shots second half 3 on man ups.

Here is the official top 10: Crush, Crabs, Looneys, Edge, Express, Hawks, FCA, Legacy, Tomahawks, Breakers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is the official top 10: Crush, Crabs, Looneys, Edge, Express, Hawks, FCA, Legacy, Tomahawks, Breakers

I think that depends if Crabs uses holdbacks or not. If its without holdbacks they get a major bump down like behind breakers

Heres the top 10
Crush
Looneys
Edge
FCA
Express
Hawks
Legacy
Crabs
Breakers
Tomahawks

Who is edge? I hope you are not talking about leading edge. You say that's the top 10 that's impossible only 2 of them were in Denver.

This past weekend's NXT tournament had better competition and was more reflective of the best 2020 teams. Denver didn't come close!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is edge? I hope you are not talking about leading edge. You say that's the top 10 that's impossible only 2 of them were in Denver.

Edge from Canada. Plus this is an informal daddy poll. Who do you think?

Looney's beat Edge from Canada twice (once in the finals) at Young Guns two weeks ago.

And Crabs beat Looneys the only time they played this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heres the top 10
Crush
Looneys
Edge
FCA
Express
Hawks
Legacy
Crabs
Breakers
Tomahawks

Sons has beaten Crabs, Looneys and Breakers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And Crabs beat Looneys the only time they played this year.

Yeah and crabs tied FCA and fca beat looneys and looneys beat breakers and breakers beat FCA

You could also throw in Laxachusettes in there. Needless to say the 2020 group is very strong. Outside of Crush, any of those other teams can beat each other on a given day. Legacy and express beat Looneys in Spring, Sons lost to legacy and express by 1, Crabs beat sons, sons beat looneys, looneys beat express and legacy, laxachusettes beat express and sons, fca beat looneys..twice, crabs cheat, tomahawks have a attack man that is going to be 15, edge smedge, hawks?

Crush, Crabs, Looneys, Express, Legacy, Laxachusettes, Sons, Edge, FCA, Breakers.

Looneys loses all early...team came together.

Of the LI teams who got better this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looneys loses all early...team came together.

You mean they came together when the added older players. Tried to pull a Crabs move on Crush. Pathetic!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of the LI teams who got better this year?

Crush and Legacy, Express got weaker, all other teams can't compete with the top 3.

NO...same roster since March...no GUEST players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of the LI teams who got better this year?

Crush and Legacy, Express got weaker, all other teams can't compete with the top 3.

Crush - always improving and by far still the best
Legacy - significantly better
Express Terps - status quo
fl$ - significantly better
Express 2 - status quo
True Blue - status quo
Igloo - first year...did great

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of the LI teams who got better this year?

Crush and Legacy, Express got weaker, all other teams can't compete with the top 3.

Must be a legacy dad who's dying to see them ranked higher

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is the official top 10: Crush, Crabs, Looneys, Edge, Express, Hawks, FCA, Legacy, Tomahawks, Breakers

I think that depends if Crabs uses holdbacks or not. If its without holdbacks they get a major bump down like behind breakers

Whatever. Crabs 2020 NPYLL team beat Looneys this year and went undefeated all spring. They only brought those kids down for one tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is the official top 10: Crush, Crabs, Looneys, Edge, Express, Hawks, FCA, Legacy, Tomahawks, Breakers

I think that depends if Crabs uses holdbacks or not. If its without holdbacks they get a major bump down like behind breakers

Whatever. Crabs 2020 NPYLL team beat Looneys this year and went undefeated all spring. They only brought those kids down for one tournament.

"only brought kids down for one tournament" is 1 to many......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NO...same roster since March...no GUEST players.

Just a few holdbacks!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of the LI teams who got better this year?

Crush and Legacy, Express got weaker, all other teams can't compete with the top 3.

Crush - always improving and by far still the best
Legacy - significantly better
Express Terps - status quo
fl$ - significantly better
Express 2 - status quo
True Blue - status quo
Igloo - first year...did great

I would agree placing Legacy above Terps. Terps skated playing Legacy every chance they got because they were scared of what would happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of the LI teams who got better this year?

Crush and Legacy, Express got weaker, all other teams can't compete with the top 3.

Crush - always improving and by far still the best
Legacy - significantly better
Express Terps - status quo
fl$ - significantly better
Express 2 - status quo
True Blue - status quo
Igloo - first year...did great

I would agree placing Legacy above Terps. Terps skated playing Legacy every chance they got because they were scared of what would happen.

Viper beat Express 2, True Blue, and Igloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of the LI teams who got better this year?

Crush and Legacy, Express got weaker, all other teams can't compete with the top 3.

Crush - always improving and by far still the best
Legacy - significantly better
Express Terps - status quo
fl$ - significantly better
Express 2 - status quo
True Blue - status quo
Igloo - first year...did great

I would agree placing Legacy above Terps. Terps skated playing Legacy every chance they got because they were scared of what would happen.

Legacy has never beaten Express, even when Express was missing their main faceoff player. Express lost 5-4 to Looneys, Legacy lost 9-3.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of the LI teams who got better this year?

Crush and Legacy, Express got weaker, all other teams can't compete with the top 3.

Crush - always improving and by far still the best
Legacy - significantly better
Express Terps - status quo
fl$ - significantly better
Express 2 - status quo
True Blue - status quo
Igloo - first year...did great

I would agree placing Legacy above Terps. Terps skated playing Legacy every chance they got because they were scared of what would happen.

Viper beat Express 2, True Blue, and Igloo

And Igloo beat Viper, Express 2

Express face off kid is there entire team I heard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is the official top 10: Crush, Crabs, Looneys, Edge, Express, Hawks, FCA, Legacy, Tomahawks, Breakers

I think that depends if Crabs uses holdbacks or not. If its without holdbacks they get a major bump down like behind breakers

Whatever. Crabs 2020 NPYLL team beat Looneys this year and went undefeated all spring. They only brought those kids down for one tournament.

"only brought kids down for one tournament" is 1 to many......

They only brought kids rostered on another team down one time is a bizarre statement in of itself (and got caught this "one" time) but their regular team make ups are full of holdbacks from 8th grade on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is the official top 10: Crush, Crabs, Looneys, Edge, Express, Hawks, FCA, Legacy, Tomahawks, Breakers

I think that depends if Crabs uses holdbacks or not. If its without holdbacks they get a major bump down like behind breakers

Whatever. Crabs 2020 NPYLL team beat Looneys this year and went undefeated all spring. They only brought those kids down for one tournament.

"only brought kids down for one tournament" is 1 to many......

I agree, but don't act like the actual Crabs 2020 team wasn't good. To say they are not a top team without the 2019 kids is not a true statement.

Igloo 2021 beat viper, not 2020.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard

that doesn't make sense, no one player can be the entire team. but having a great face off kid makes a tremendous amount of difference. if they could beat legacy, who is a top team, without him, then what does that say about the rest of the team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I heard

that doesn't make sense, no one player can be the entire team. but having a great face off kid makes a tremendous amount of difference. if they could beat legacy, who is a top team, without him, then what does that say about the rest of the team? [/quote]

He's good, but not better than 91, Legacy they all go about 50% against each other

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is the official top 10: Crush, Crabs, Looneys, Edge, Express, Hawks, FCA, Legacy, Tomahawks, Breakers

I think that depends if Crabs uses holdbacks or not. If its without holdbacks they get a major bump down like behind breakers

Whatever. Crabs 2020 NPYLL team beat Looneys this year and went undefeated all spring. They only brought those kids down for one tournament.

"only brought kids down for one tournament" is 1 to many......

I agree, but don't act like the actual Crabs 2020 team wasn't good. To say they are not a top team without the 2019 kids is not a true statement.

Can't really tell as they do not play without holdbacks anywhere else but Denver and based on that spread, there are many teams that have much lesser spreads against Crush. Their regular season team had their share of holdbacks too. A real match up will never happen so they may be a talented group of boys, but nobody will ever know how talented the real 2020 age appropriate boys are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is the official top 10: Crush, Crabs, Looneys, Edge, Express, Hawks, FCA, Legacy, Tomahawks, Breakers

I think that depends if Crabs uses holdbacks or not. If its without holdbacks they get a major bump down like behind breakers

Whatever. Crabs 2020 NPYLL team beat Looneys this year and went undefeated all spring. They only brought those kids down for one tournament.

"only brought kids down for one tournament" is 1 to many......

I agree, but don't act like the actual Crabs 2020 team wasn't good. To say they are not a top team without the 2019 kids is not a true statement.

Can't really tell as they do not play without holdbacks anywhere else but Denver and based on that spread, there are many teams that have much lesser spreads against Crush. Their regular season team had their share of holdbacks too. A real match up will never happen so they may be a talented group of boys, but nobody will ever know how talented the real 2020 age appropriate boys are.

So you think that if Crabs suddenly decided to make their policy no holdbacks that it would hurt them? Have you ever been to a Crabs tryout? There are hundreds of kids trying out. If the older kids couldn't be on team they would still have the best kids their age.

Until 91 starts there Maryland program there this year. Lmao!!

"Express face off kid is there entire team I heard"

That is an exaggeration, but without him, they are just like the 2-5 pack of LI teams...

What about laxachusetts 2020 they came in 3rd at the NLF tournament this summer. The only teams ahead of them were crabs and 91

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about laxachusetts 2020 they came in 3rd at the NLF tournament this summer. The only teams ahead of them were crabs and 91

Speaking of holdbacks.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Until 91 starts there Maryland program there this year. Lmao!!

Not sure I understand what substance they are bringing to the table. Seems like more hype than anything else.

You mean double hold backs they had couple of kids no doubt should of been in 9th. One kid in particular couldn't play lax just wanted to knock kids out of the game got penalty after penalty for them when the score was out of hand and they were down. How do parents actually think there kids are kid when they are playing kids a year or 2 younger if I did that for my son he would be a stud to but most of those kids must not be that intelligent in school or lazy don't want to work hard be living off the system in no time!!!! Or when they do play against kids there own age must not be able to keep up.

They are already in the 2-5 pack you fool.. You mean without him they drop way down 5-10. Express has not upgraded in years while crush tries to upgrade year after year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of the LI teams who got better this year?

Crush and Legacy, Express got weaker, all other teams can't compete with the top 3.

Crush - always improving and by far still the best
Legacy - significantly better
Express Terps - status quo
fl$ - significantly better
Express 2 - status quo
True Blue - status quo
Igloo - first year...did great

I would agree placing Legacy above Terps. Terps skated playing Legacy every chance they got because they were scared of what would happen.

I don't know why the ignorance and crap spewed as facts continues to amaze me but it still does. Terps and Legacy were scheduled to play on the Sunday at LaxFest. Did the Terps pull a Crash Davis and force a rainout to avoid Legacy? No, dumb a*s, it just rained. Terps and Legacy were both at NXT. Terps lost to Looney's by a goal in round robin and got Crush in quarterfinals instead of meeting Legacy in semifinals like Looney's did. Yup, they bowed out of the tournament earlier just to avoid Legacy. Both are excellent teams and will play a very competitive game. Could go either way. And that is the truth unlike the nonsense spouted previously.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of the LI teams who got better this year?

Crush and Legacy, Express got weaker, all other teams can't compete with the top 3.

Crush - always improving and by far still the best
Legacy - significantly better
Express Terps - status quo
fl$ - significantly better
Express 2 - status quo
True Blue - status quo
Igloo - first year...did great

I would agree placing Legacy above Terps. Terps skated playing Legacy every chance they got because they were scared of what would happen.

I don't know why the ignorance and crap spewed as facts continues to amaze me but it still does. Terps and Legacy were scheduled to play on the Sunday at LaxFest. Did the Terps pull a Crash Davis and force a rainout to avoid Legacy? No, dumb a*s, it just rained. Terps and Legacy were both at NXT. Terps lost to Looney's by a goal in round robin and got Crush in quarterfinals instead of meeting Legacy in semifinals like Looney's did. Yup, they bowed out of the tournament earlier just to avoid Legacy. Both are excellent teams and will play a very competitive game. Could go either way. And that is the truth unlike the nonsense spouted previously.

Well said.
The poster making statements pitting Legacy against Terps is a complete loser with nothing better to do. Don't buy the crap they are selling. Many parents and kids on those teams are friendly and there is a mutual respect. Only a loser would stir the pot and create Kardashian drama in youth lax.

Couldn't agree more. Wouldn't even entertain the ignorance and my son plays for legacy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They are already in the 2-5 pack you fool.. You mean without him they drop way down 5-10. Express has not upgraded in years while crush tries to upgrade year after year.

they beat legacy by a couple of goals without him...

When and where? How long ago heard they picked up a couple more kids. Tryouts should be good this year for the top 5 teams! Who will go and who will stay

Overall Rankings based on seeing all these teams play this year at least 1 time - 4 through 8 are interchangible at any given time

Crush
Express Terps
Legacy
fl$
Viper
Express 2
True Blue
Igloo

You mean Long Island rankings? Vipers beat fl$.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Until 91 starts there Maryland program there this year. Lmao!!

Not sure I understand what substance they are bringing to the table. Seems like more hype than anything else.

If the core of the 2020 Breakers AA team is moving over as is rumored and they add even just a few kids from other top clubs combined with an enhanced top notch coaching staff that T91 will bring to the table, the 2020 will be highly competitive. That team is already competitive and could be even more so with the right coaching and additions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Until 91 starts there Maryland program there this year. Lmao!!

Not sure I understand what substance they are bringing to the table. Seems like more hype than anything else.

If the core of the 2020 Breakers AA team is moving over as is rumored and they add even just a few kids from other top clubs combined with an enhanced top notch coaching staff that T91 will bring to the table, the 2020 will be highly competitive. That team is already competitive and could be even more so with the right coaching and additions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Until 91 starts there Maryland program there this year. Lmao!!

Not sure I understand what substance they are bringing to the table. Seems like more hype than anything else.

If the core of the 2020 Breakers AA team is moving over as is rumored and they add even just a few kids from other top clubs combined with an enhanced top notch coaching staff that T91 will bring to the table, the 2020 will be highly competitive. That team is already competitive and could be even more so with the right coaching and additions.

the rumor is the coaches are moving over along with players. if correct what is the difference other than new helmets and unis? MM was with breakers as director player/coach development, right? the special sauce that crush and other super teams up in LI is an uncommon commitment by kids & parents combined with the most talented kids in the area and extremely dedicated and professional coaches. Would kids, parents and coaches commit to 6-8+ hours of practice a week basically all year long plus tournaments every weekend in june/july many involving significant travel? If not T91 MD wil be just another club in MD. Some good years, some ok. According to website $1850 for just summer season. That would make it one of the most expensive in MD. If fall,spring, winter are add-on fees than make it the most expensive by a wide margin...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Until 91 starts there Maryland program there this year. Lmao!!

Not sure I understand what substance they are bringing to the table. Seems like more hype than anything else.

If the core of the 2020 Breakers AA team is moving over as is rumored and they add even just a few kids from other top clubs combined with an enhanced top notch coaching staff that T91 will bring to the table, the 2020 will be highly competitive. That team is already competitive and could be even more so with the right coaching and additions.

the rumor is the coaches are moving over along with players. if correct what is the difference other than new helmets and unis? MM was with breakers as director player/coach development, right? the special sauce that crush and other super teams up in LI is an uncommon commitment by kids & parents combined with the most talented kids in the area and extremely dedicated and professional coaches. Would kids, parents and coaches commit to 6-8+ hours of practice a week basically all year long plus tournaments every weekend in june/july many involving significant travel? If not T91 MD wil be just another club in MD. Some good years, some ok. According to website $1850 for just summer season. That would make it one of the most expensive in MD. If fall,spring, winter are add-on fees than make it the most expensive by a wide margin...

Head coach is moving over but each team will also have an offensive and defensive coach something Breakers did not allow them. Not sure about the fees-Breakers is one of the most expensive clubs in the area. Nobody said more competitive than Crush who do make the above commitment -the point was a very competitive team is moving and they will add more good players like good teams can do every year so the T91 Maryland 2020 is bound to be as competitive as they were as Breakers this year and likely more competitive. Sounds like MM is leaving since he did not get to do what he wanted to do at Breakers in terms of development so hopefully as Director of T91 Maryland with the T91 brand as backing, he will be able to do the programming he wanted to do at Breakers last year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Until 91 starts there Maryland program there this year. Lmao!!

Not sure I understand what substance they are bringing to the table. Seems like more hype than anything else.

If the core of the 2020 Breakers AA team is moving over as is rumored and they add even just a few kids from other top clubs combined with an enhanced top notch coaching staff that T91 will bring to the table, the 2020 will be highly competitive. That team is already competitive and could be even more so with the right coaching and additions.

the rumor is the coaches are moving over along with players. if correct what is the difference other than new helmets and unis? MM was with breakers as director player/coach development, right? the special sauce that crush and other super teams up in LI is an uncommon commitment by kids & parents combined with the most talented kids in the area and extremely dedicated and professional coaches. Would kids, parents and coaches commit to 6-8+ hours of practice a week basically all year long plus tournaments every weekend in june/july many involving significant travel? If not T91 MD wil be just another club in MD. Some good years, some ok. According to website $1850 for just summer season. That would make it one of the most expensive in MD. If fall,spring, winter are add-on fees than make it the most expensive by a wide margin...

Head coach is moving over but each team will also have an offensive and defensive coach something Breakers did not allow them. Not sure about the fees-Breakers is one of the most expensive clubs in the area. Nobody said more competitive than Crush who do make the above commitment -the point was a very competitive team is moving and they will add more good players like good teams can do every year so the T91 Maryland 2020 is bound to be as competitive as they were as Breakers this year and likely more competitive. Sounds like MM is leaving since he did not get to do what he wanted to do at Breakers in terms of development so hopefully as Director of T91 Maryland with the T91 brand as backing, he will be able to do the programming he wanted to do at Breakers last year.

So Breakers with an offense and defense coach. Wow. Game changer

Hawks already has all of these things, including off-season skill sessions. More bang for your buck, for sure.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks already has all of these things, including off-season skill sessions. More bang for your buck, for sure.

Same with FCA and crabs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks already has all of these things, including off-season skill sessions. More bang for your buck, for sure.

That's great, if you live in Annapolis.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You mean Long Island rankings? Vipers beat fl$.

They have never played head to head

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hawks already has all of these things, including off-season skill sessions. More bang for your buck, for sure.

Same with FCA and crabs

Pretty sure that there were lots of other clubs on Long Island when 91 started up. Seems like they have done pretty well for themselves in spite of that. No reason to believe they can't repeat that success in MD.

I don't know how well the slick LI style program will go over in MD... Can't see too many M.R Duck clad dads on the typical 91 sideline...But maybe if they can recruit some of those outskirts of Napo, Glen Burnie style 'necks it would fit.

I already bought a restored IROC

HAHAHAHAHA. LOL.

Breakers is a very good program...what will this do to them???
Are parents in support??

I have Blapunkt Benzie Box if you want to upgrade your sound. Its freaking awesome!

Which of the 3D regional teams is the best? How about LB3 regionals and their National team?

LB3 sucks

What 2020 team is 91 holding tryouts for? Crush is invitation only (as I understand it) and their B team (Titanium) disbanded last year with many/most going to Legacy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 2020 team is 91 holding tryouts for? Crush is invitation only (as I understand it) and their B team (Titanium) disbanded last year with many/most going to Legacy.

Not sure what post you're responding to, might be a reference to 91 starting up in Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What 2020 team is 91 holding tryouts for? Crush is invitation only (as I understand it) and their B team (Titanium) disbanded last year with many/most going to Legacy.

Not sure what post you're responding to, might be a reference to 91 starting up in Maryland.

I think it's a good question. Will 91 create a competitive team other than Crush at the 2020 level? Titanium was a very competitive team. If Crush is only committed to it's current players, as the parents always say, why bother to try out for 91 at the 2020 level on LI?

Don't if your kid is any good try out for the other clubs A teams if you would like your kid in the showcase tournaments or events do not believe anybody if they tell you they will get you in the showcases.. Telling you from experience they only try to invite the best teams they are not going to take an A team and B team from the same club.

Crush kids that never see the field should also try out for other clubs I guess than

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush kids that never see the field should also try out for other clubs I guess than

What about the Legacy and Terps kids not seeing the field? What is your advice for them? Qu it lacrosse and crawl into a hole? You will all be surprised 4 years from now who winds up where! Just sayin!

Same advice for all not picking on any one team. Went through this already with my older guy and yes there will be a couple kids that come out of nowhere but I can tell you they are far and few. Kid has to be on the field to be seen.

What Spallina did in Colorado is despicable. It's one thing to play your best when the game is tight. That game was over at halftime, and there were several kids who didn't see the field until the last minute.

There is no defense for not playing a U13 kid until the final minute of the game, let alone a kid who paid a lot of money to play out to Colorado.

Team 91 should be ashamed of themselves. Karma will bite them in the fall when several teams will have a shot to knock them off.

Game was 10-6 at half far from "over" in addition after crabs cheated vs 91 in ocean city that's the Karma. This has long been discussed lets all move on They finish another year at the top

Okay this is getting really old, your the one who dragging this along , does this really bother you and affect you and your kid personally ? although your opinion is exactly what it is "An opinion" we and more so YOU need to move forward , this is nothing new with his team , you just happen to actually watch it from your TV (which you most likely wish your kid was on that sideline) and notice that kids got 1 minute if that of playtime. Try watching it from a sideline and you will see this is nothing new ! Say what you want about JS , there's a reason why he coaches all the teams he does , there's a reason why he gets the most publicity out of any other coach in the country . When you are your kids coach gets to that level , maybe you can figure it out and hand out equal playtime amongst the team and still maintain top notoriety.
Not a fan of JS by any means , but I do respect that he does this for a living , its his career envy it or not , it is what it is , don't like it to bad , he's not going to change because of peoples opinions !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What Spallina did in Colorado is despicable. It's one thing to play your best when the game is tight. That game was over at halftime, and there were several kids who didn't see the field until the last minute.

There is no defense for not playing a U13 kid until the final minute of the game, let alone a kid who paid a lot of money to play out to Colorado.

Team 91 should be ashamed of themselves. Karma will bite them in the fall when several teams will have a shot to knock them off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Game was 10-6 at half far from "over" in addition after crabs cheated vs 91 in ocean city that's the Karma. This has long been discussed lets all move on They finish another year at the top

Crabs had kids who reclassed to 2020. You may not like it, but they didn't break any rules. That's not cheating.

Regardless, it shows Spallina doesn't care about the lesser kids on that team. That game was over early, and you know it. If revenge was the #1 priority to the point where kids didn't get to play, then his priorities are majority screwed up.

As for revenge, Crabs, Looney's and other clubs will beat Team 91 this fall. Bank on it.

Kids barely playing in HS when the game is on the line? Everyone understands that.

A U13 game that was over no later than the middle of the 3rd quarter, all the parents spent a ton of money to play out to Colorado, and some didn't get in the game until the last minute? You are REALLY defending that?

You can't be serious. Not that I would ever let me kid play for him, but we will be railing about this issue for years. Disgusting behavior and lack of sportsmanship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Kids barely playing in HS when the game is on the line? Everyone understands that.

A U13 game that was over no later than the middle of the 3rd quarter, all the parents spent a ton of money to play out to Colorado, and some didn't get in the game until the last minute? You are REALLY defending that?

You can't be serious. Not that I would ever let me kid play for him, but we will be railing about this issue for years. Disgusting behavior and lack of sportsmanship.

He has great sunglasses though...

I would stop worrying about the kids playing time on '91. They know what they signed on for and if they don't like it they'll leave--and my guess is no more than two of them, if that even do so. Their choice not yours. GO LI. Keep beatin up on the MD hold backs.

Of course those families can (and will) leave. But it's fair game for the rest of us to out what was a classless act.

Tryouts in a month I think many teams will change including 91.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Game was 10-6 at half far from "over" in addition after crabs cheated vs 91 in ocean city that's the Karma. This has long been discussed lets all move on They finish another year at the top

Crabs had kids who reclassed to 2020. You may not like it, but they didn't break any rules. That's not cheating.

Here we go again...

Tournament RULES stated that "Placement on a grade based team (2018AA, 2019AA, 2020AA and 2021AA) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

The Crabs had actual 8th graders - who played on the 2019 team all year - playing against a 7th grade team. Now someone will say, "they are not 7th graders they are 2020s". In June of 2015, the kids graduating in 2020 are in the 7th grade (many of the kids playing in the tournament were still in school)

So yes, a rule was broken. Also, those kids were back playing with their 2019 team the next weekend. The Crabs knew what they were doing.

All the Maryland people coming on here trying to stay relevant. Past is the past when are tryouts in Maryland.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Game was 10-6 at half far from "over" in addition after crabs cheated vs 91 in ocean city that's the Karma. This has long been discussed lets all move on They finish another year at the top

Crabs had kids who reclassed to 2020. You may not like it, but they didn't break any rules. That's not cheating.

Regardless, it shows Spallina doesn't care about the lesser kids on that team. That game was over early, and you know it. If revenge was the #1 priority to the point where kids didn't get to play, then his priorities are majority screwed up.

As for revenge, Crabs, Looney's and other clubs will beat Team 91 this fall. Bank on it.

Those kids have not officially reclassed until they attend classes as a 2020 - which they have not done. They were back playing with the 2019s at Young Guns. Cheating to most; poor form and lack of sportsmanship and ethics at a minimum. And sitting the true 2020 Crabs on the bench who worked for the team all year just to make room for the 2019s to play and win for them- definitely not what those kids signed up for whereas the Crush kids know what they are getting into when they sign on.

I agree 100 pct what spallina does and wish more clubs would do it!! If you aren't the best work harder or SIT THE BENCH and enjoy it. My kid is so bad and my wife is sooo ugly that I barely keep from crying every time I pee cause I'm so small. Don't like it leave it's really that simple. Kids should not think for one minute because dad has money or mom ***** someone kid should play. Work harder!!!

Well Said .. Who is your WIFE !!!!!!!!!!

May be the worst single post I have read on this site ever! Wish more clubs would do it, you are an A-Hole. If you think nepotism is bad in 8th grade club lacrosse you should wait HS and next level.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree 100 pct what spallina does and wish more clubs would do it!! If you aren't the best work harder or SIT THE BENCH and enjoy it. My wife has breath that smells like dog crap. Don't like it leave it's really that simple. Kids should not think for one minute because dad has money or mom ***** someone kid should play. Work harder!!!

You should be blocked from posting

OKAYYYYYY... if you want to put it like that...
But true about the money and or political end of it . including good "OL" mommy providing services for her kid to get in front of the line. You see it more and more , As in after tryouts and your team has a few practices under the belt , a kid shows up that has not FLOW with the rest of the team you try to figure out "why" is that kid here ? Then you find out his dad is in some sort of business venture with one of the directors or its the directors landscapers kid .
People are use to getting what they want , JS will not put up with that ! his record of success has been proven. Favors wont replace Hard work !

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree 100 pct what spallina does and wish more clubs would do it!! If you aren't the best work harder or SIT THE BENCH and enjoy it. If I wasn't such a [lacrosse] I would play lacrosse. But instead I will just comment on here cause I know I'm a [lacrosse]. Don't like it leave it's really that simple. Kids should not think for one minute because dad has money or mom blows someone kid should play. Work harder!!!

Let's focus on 2016 tryouts this has gotten ugly

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Game was 10-6 at half far from "over" in addition after crabs cheated vs 91 in ocean city that's the Karma. This has long been discussed lets all move on They finish another year at the top

Crabs had kids who reclassed to 2020. You may not like it, but they didn't break any rules. That's not cheating.

Here we go again...

Tournament RULES stated that "Placement on a grade based team (2018AA, 2019AA, 2020AA and 2021AA) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

The Crabs had actual 8th graders - who played on the 2019 team all year - playing against a 7th grade team. Now someone will say, "they are not 7th graders they are 2020s". In June of 2015, the kids graduating in 2020 are in the 7th grade (many of the kids playing in the tournament were still in school)

So yes, a rule was broken. Also, those kids were back playing with their 2019 team the next weekend. The Crabs knew what they were doing.

If a rule was broken, they would have been disqualified. They weren't.

Man, you are really butthurt over a loss. Whereas 91 will keep the roster intact, other clubs will change as they add players. Expect more losses in the future.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree 100 pct what spallina does and wish more clubs would do it!! If you aren't the best work harder or SIT THE BENCH and enjoy it. My wife is ugly and I have no penis. Don't like it leave it's really that simple. Kids should not think for one minute because dad has money or mom blows someone kid should play. Work harder!!!

It's youth lacrosse. Everyone should see reasonable playing time unless it's a must win situation in a competitive game.

But even if it weren't, no real coach plays his starters only, let alone a youth coach.

Disgraceful.

91 has dominance in every grade level can't imagine their strongest team declines as much as we hope that. I actually think they will also add talent and subtract others It's what happens in club lacrosse. People can hope a decline but don't bank on it. Will be interesting to gauge turnover on all the teams as players jockey to be on the top programs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All the Maryland people coming on here trying to stay relevant. Past is the past when are tryouts in Maryland.

A Maryland team just lost to Crush by 1 goal, when is the last time a LI team did that? I'd say that's relevant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Game was 10-6 at half far from "over" in addition after crabs cheated vs 91 in ocean city that's the Karma. This has long been discussed lets all move on They finish another year at the top

Crabs had kids who reclassed to 2020. You may not like it, but they didn't break any rules. That's not cheating.

Here we go again...

Tournament RULES stated that "Placement on a grade based team (2018AA, 2019AA, 2020AA and 2021AA) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

The Crabs had actual 8th graders - who played on the 2019 team all year - playing against a 7th grade team. Now someone will say, "they are not 7th graders they are 2020s". In June of 2015, the kids graduating in 2020 are in the 7th grade (many of the kids playing in the tournament were still in school)

So yes, a rule was broken. Also, those kids were back playing with their 2019 team the next weekend. The Crabs knew what they were doing.

If a rule was broken, they would have been disqualified. They weren't.

Getting away with something does not mean it was OK. Aloha does not enforce their own rules, especially in this case since they are chummy with RM.

And there you have it the reason society on a downward spiral. Everything is not equal..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Game was 10-6 at half far from "over" in addition after crabs cheated vs 91 in ocean city that's the Karma. This has long been discussed lets all move on They finish another year at the top

Crabs had kids who reclassed to 2020. You may not like it, but they didn't break any rules. That's not cheating.

Here we go again...

Tournament RULES stated that "Placement on a grade based team (2018AA, 2019AA, 2020AA and 2021AA) is dictated by the highest grade of any player on the team."

The Crabs had actual 8th graders - who played on the 2019 team all year - playing against a 7th grade team. Now someone will say, "they are not 7th graders they are 2020s". In June of 2015, the kids graduating in 2020 are in the 7th grade (many of the kids playing in the tournament were still in school)

So yes, a rule was broken. Also, those kids were back playing with their 2019 team the next weekend. The Crabs knew what they were doing.

If a rule was broken, they would have been disqualified. They weren't.

Man, you are really butthurt over a loss. Whereas 91 will keep the roster intact, other clubs will change as they add players. Expect more losses in the future.

Of course there will be loses in the future because you bump your kids down to play younger kids- that would only be logical! Better hope those kids can win big all the time or that makes them look silly losing or only being competitive against younger kids. I'd be a bit worried if my older kids were only able to pull out a one goal win in OT. Of course you also won't be able to play in any age guided events in the future, but you won't want to as you know what may happen then.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree 100 pct what spallina does and wish more clubs would do it!! If you aren't the best work harder or SIT THE BENCH and enjoy it. Should never be how much you pay. I am a crotchless wimp and have no life. Kids should not think for one minute because dad has money or mom blows someone kid should play. Work harder!!!

It's youth lacrosse. Everyone should see reasonable playing time unless it's a must win situation in a competitive game.

But even if it weren't, no real coach plays his starters only, let alone a youth coach.

Disgraceful.

No rules were broken....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's youth lacrosse. Everyone should see reasonable playing time unless it's a must win situation in a competitive game.

But even if it weren't, no real coach plays his starters only, let alone a youth coach.

Disgraceful.

No rules were broken....

Only ethical ones ...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 has dominance in every grade level can't imagine their strongest team declines as much as we hope that. I actually think they will also add talent and subtract others It's what happens in club lacrosse. People can hope a decline but don't bank on it. Will be interesting to gauge turnover on all the teams as players jockey to be on the top programs

Both of 91's 2016 and 2017 teams are good, not great.

LOL
Read all the "100 percent agree with Spallina". Feel bad for this guy (the poster not Spallina).

Each one is just a little different. So funny.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Of course there will be loses in the future because you bump your kids down to play younger kids- that would only be logical! Better hope those kids can win big all the time or that makes them look silly losing or only being competitive against younger kids. I'd be a bit worried if my older kids were only able to pull out a one goal win in OT. Of course you also won't be able to play in any age guided events in the future, but you won't want to as you know what may happen then.

My son is an age compliant 2020 from a non hotbed area that played at Brine. It was impressive to watch the Long Island team win easily despite being smaller and slower than a lot of their opponents. I don't think the Long Island team was smaller and slower because of holdbacks as most of them were smaller than my 13 year old.

The reality is that teams from other areas close the gap with the Long Island teams as the boys age because the Long Island teams at the younger ages have exceptional lacrosse players but not exceptional athletes. Once the kids from the areas start playing year around the skill gap closes and size and speed takes over.

Agree that the gap closes totally disagree there are no athletes here.. Kids play all other sports here also don't kid yourself!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I agree 100 pct what spallina does and wish more clubs would do it!! If you aren't the best work harder or SIT THE BENCH and enjoy it. My kid is so bad and my wife is sooo ugly that I barely keep from crying every time I pee cause I'm so small. Don't like it leave it's really that simple. Kids should not think for one minute because dad has money or mom ***** someone kid should play. Work harder!!!

Lol. Sooo ugly? Don't be so cruel to your own wife man.

Crabs cheats by bringing 2018 kids from vlc just bc they suck to try to beat looneys and team 91

Big Question. Will the Loonies 2020 team stay intact?

Looney's just won The tournament this weekend why would they break up?

Originally Posted by The Hop

[quote=Anonymous]I agree 100 pct what spallina does and wish more clubs would do it!! If you aren't the best work harder or SIT THE BENCH and enjoy it. My kid is so bad and my wife is sooo ugly that I barely keep from crying every time I pee cause I'm so small. Don't like it leave it's really that simple. Kids should not think for one minute because dad has money or mom ***** someone kid should play. Work harder!!!

Lol. Sooo ugly? Don't be so cruel to your own wife man. [/quot

No one cares who's team is the best or where you play. It's about getting your kid better . Why would you want your son to play defense on a team that wins every face off and you see no action?. I would rather have my son play on a middle of the road team where he can work on his skills. common sense to me and please don't tell me it's all about the training they get at practice .. Every kid wants action in a game setting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's just won The tournament this weekend why would they break up?

The only reason I would think a really good player would want to leave a great team that has been playing together for 5-6 years is if they think another club will provide better training or perhaps better opportunities in the near future to be recruited. If neither of those are an issue then it makes no sense to leave. If a kid is not seeing the field thats another story.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's just won The tournament this weekend why would they break up?

The only reason I would think a really good player would want to leave a great team that has been playing together for 5-6 years is if they think another club will provide better training or perhaps better opportunities in the near future to be recruited. If neither of those are an issue then it makes no sense to leave. If a kid is not seeing the field thats another story.

Like Crabs and FCA for recruiting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's just won The tournament this weekend why would they break up?

They are too much....half the team has hairy legs and is over 6'. Go win age based tournaments and that would be impressive. It is freakin ridiculous...these are high school kids playing against 7th graders. Did like your cooling station with the misting fans, though. That was a pretty sweet way for a holdback (and maybe even some double holdbacks) to cool off!

Anybody know who won the Hofstra tournament this weekend?

it was either revenge or viper. got too hot on Sunday though.

Revenge won the Hofstra tournament (a pick up team with legacy A and crush kids) they beat viper in the final. Also a very close game between Outlaws Black and True Blue going right to the wire, but true blue ran away with the victory 11-9.

Paying travel teams lost to a pick up team how is that possible. Couldn't be crush kids they are at another tournament

How were there 2 championship games please don't say there were paying travel teams in the B division

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Paying travel teams lost to a pick up team how is that possible. Couldn't be crush kids they are at another tournament

Revenge has crush kids that never see the field so revenge gives them a chance to actually play during the summer. It isn't a knock on them. They are very good players but crush only plays 13 kids. There weren't 2 championship games. Outlaws played true blue in a consolation game. The 4 teams in the playoffs were revenge vs thunder elite, and viper vs upper level.

Are you sure? I can't see any of crush kids playing outside of crush. Crush is away at another tournament

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you sure? I can't see any of crush kids playing outside of crush. Crush is away at another tournament

I would name names but that would be unethical. Yes, there were taz and crush kids playing for revenge.

BOY are you way off base...Looney's wins because they work hard..play smart...get over it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BOY are you way off base...Looney's wins because they work hard..play smart...get over it.

And having holbacks, some kids on that team are 14 already, Fact!

Start winning..the haters come out!!!
Fun to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Looney's just won The tournament this weekend why would they break up?

The only reason I would think a really good player would want to leave a great team that has been playing together for 5-6 years is if they think another club will provide better training or perhaps better opportunities in the near future to be recruited. If neither of those are an issue then it makes no sense to leave. If a kid is not seeing the field thats another story.

Like Crabs and FCA for recruiting

top recruit in the country just came from Looney's, don't have to leave for recruitment.

Let's bring the crab looney fight to the Maryland board

You are better off playing 80% of the game on a B club than 20% on an A club.

Coaches need to see you play, they could care less about your team!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are better off playing 80% of the game on a B club than 20% on an A club.

Coaches need to see you play, they could care less about your team!

Coaches don't watch B teams

Do coaches watch an A team after the first few subs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are better off playing 80% of the game on a B club than 20% on an A club.

Coaches need to see you play, they could care less about your team!

LOL. Yeah, college coaches are climbing over themselves to watch a B game. Keep dreaming.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do coaches watch an A team after the first few subs?

Yes, they often stay the whole game. They don't even go to the b games. So your chances of being "noticed " will be best at a tournament where these coaches actually are. Even if you are not in long, look good while you are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Start winning..the haters come out!!!
Fun to watch.

The fact that you enjoy watching cheaters get ahead doesn't make it ok buddy.

Say what you want about Crush, but at least they don't play this game. Looneys, Rising Sons, 3d, Edge Ontario, etc. all unabashadly pushing their holdbacks. It is what it is at the moment...and unfortunately US Lacrosse, tournament directors, wealthy parents, certain club teams and coaches are all conspiring to promote this unsavory practice. Just spare me the victory lap for winning tournaments against kids 1-2 years younger.

It's reality brother if you were a college coach do you really give a damn about a kid that was held back its not your kid..he is going to help your program and help you win which makes you more money!!!! You must have a kid that can't compete against the big boys

While you guys keep crying, our kids keep committing to college programs.

LOL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

While you guys keep crying, our kids keep committing to college programs.

LOL.

LI kids seem to have no issues committing to colleges and doing it while playing your older boys who are playing down.

The fact that you think everyone in MD, PA and MA is an "overage" kid is laughable.

Keep making excuses, though.

Crush are at inside lacrosse tourney. They have scored 32 goals in 2 games. Basically 5 kids with all the points so if you aren't in that 5 you are probably looking for a new club for next season. Big one tomorrow vs. Sweetlax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's reality brother if you were a college coach do you really give a damn about a kid that was held back its not your kid..he is going to help your program and help you win which makes you more money!!!! You must have a kid that can't compete against the big boys

"Big boys"? Ha!!! I submit if these big boys were so tough they'd compete against kids their own age. The fact that you rationalize it to make age appropriate kids weak and your cheater strong only shows how wrong-headed you are.9gffwk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The fact that you think everyone in MD, PA and MA is an "overage" kid is laughable.

Keep making excuses, though.

College coaches want older kids in each grade. If they didn't, this wouldn't be a trend. Period.

You can't deal with reality. College coaches live recruiting the older boys every sport does it don't kid yourself. When my older boy runs over your little boy in front of college coaches we will see who gets recruited!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush are at inside lacrosse tourney. They have scored 32 goals in 2 games. Basically 5 kids with all the points so if you aren't in that 5 you are probably looking for a new club for next season. Big one tomorrow vs. Sweetlax.

Not all players are supposed to score goals, guess you are new to lax!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush are at inside lacrosse tourney. They have scored 32 goals in 2 games. Basically 5 kids with all the points so if you aren't in that 5 you are probably looking for a new club for next season. Big one tomorrow vs. Sweetlax.

That should be a better game, my sons team played Sweetlax. Got spanked, the Sweetlax team could have really taken to us but the coach pulled them back. They were a lot bigger than us also but never showed it. That is a well coached and respectful team. Good luck to both teams. Routing for the underdog in this one.

It is sweet lax National 2019 vs crush. Sweet lax has 3 players committed already wow ! Early recruiting getting earlier

What? The Sweetlax team actually wasn't focused in winning 30-0? What's wrong with them?

Anyone who follows Team 91 knows that it is about margin of victory in youth lacrosse, not developing players.

Don't bother to give everyone playing time. Be like Team 91 and just focus on the top 5 gugs.

Watched team intently yesterday. Not sure what's happened in past but the entire roster played ALot. It was also 95 degrees yesterday but having heard a lot about this team just giving you the observation. Impressive group great goalie as well ! These poor boys playing in this tournament it is extremely hot !

Did anyone see that a certain fifth grade player is listed on an uncommitted 18/19 ILRI All Stars Roster?

You mean the double holdback. Everyone talks about hold backs crush is filled with them and that's a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is sweet lax National 2019 vs crush. Sweet lax has 3 players committed already wow ! Early recruiting getting earlier

Two Sweetlax kids were named mvp 9f all star game. Not sure how Crush boys that were selected did when put onto a team of kids all trying to show off!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You mean the double holdback. Everyone talks about hold backs crush is filled with them and that's a fact.

Fact? Where is this "factual" information?
Feel free to PM me as to not publish kids names on this thread.

I guess someone knows for sure but you said don't post names. So there you have it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess someone knows for sure but you said don't post names. So there you have it.

Do you know?
No one has PM me with any "facts".
There you have it is right.

even if Crush does have holdbacks, and I'm not saying they do or they don't, they are a 2020 team that plays up in the 2019 age bracket so a "holdback" would actually be playing in the correct age bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

even if Crush does have holdbacks, and I'm not saying they do or they don't, they are a 2020 team that plays up in the 2019 age bracket so a "holdback" would actually be playing in the correct age bracket.

Playing up LOL. The 2019s in that tournament are weak. Any decent 2019 team would destroy that Crush 2020 team and those little kids.

That is NOT a fact that boy played against my son 11 year old football this past year. It is disgraceful people try to spread false facts about young boys. The boys a 6th grader and is just that good. Seen it personally. Sometimes just too your cap instead if being jealous nasty people. Good for him making the All Star team by the write up sounds like he had quite the day.

That's enough concerning this one player. I don't know who you all are referring to but it's stopping now.

I guess you know the truth about it all

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess you know the truth about it all

Are you a joke?
No one has PM me to give the "facts".
Since that's the case a kid won't be singled out by an insecure adult.
Posting BS masked as "facts" is weak.

Crush 2020 has beat MANY other 2019 teams in MANY other tournaments not just this one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess you know the truth about it all

The truth is this team ALL went to the Workd series with birth certificates with a cut off if 5/1/2001 because other teams could not get most of their players at 6/1 or 8/1. This team also won [lacrosse]'s National tournament in Fl 2 yrs ago with an 8/1 cut off. People really should stop spreading rumors. This team is age legit and all just completed 7th grade with one finishing a younger grade. They work their butts and are extremely dedicated. Jealousy brings out the worst in people. If you don't like the team, the parents, the coach, their uniforms etc so be it, but don't lie or spread rumors.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush 2020 has beat MANY other 2019 teams in MANY other tournaments not just this one.

The Sweetlax 2019 is a handpicked national team, like their older ones. Many kids from the private schools who are older. It would have been surprising if they didn't win. On the other hand Crush is doing very well at this tournament. One of the boys was written up as the best attackman at the tournament in the all-star game. They are playing up, so at this age some of the smaller boys will have trouble playing against men.

Well said crush parent don't have kids play 5th grade level in tournaments when they do very well in 7th and 8th grade level. Or have multiple kids repeat grades so they will be in younger grades or start school later than they should have.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush 2020 has beat MANY other 2019 teams in MANY other tournaments not just this one.

Yes, they have beat up many AWFUL 2019 teams in other tournaments. They have not beaten any decent 2019 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess you know the truth about it all

The truth is this team ALL went to the Workd series with birth certificates with a cut off if 5/1/2001 because other teams could not get most of their players at 6/1 or 8/1. This team also won [lacrosse]'s National tournament in Fl 2 yrs ago with an 8/1 cut off. People really should stop spreading rumors. This team is age legit and all just completed 7th grade with one finishing a younger grade. They work their butts and are extremely dedicated. Jealousy brings out the worst in people. If you don't like the team, the parents, the coach, their uniforms etc so be it, but don't lie or spread rumors.

I agree. Criticizing them when they are blowing people out, not playing their players or otherwise showing poor sportsmanship is justified. But in this case they are challenging themselves by playing up and doing well against older kids. Give them credit for their skill and for doing the right thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well said crush parent don't have kids play 5th grade level in tournaments when they do very well in 7th and 8th grade level. Or have multiple kids repeat grades so they will be in younger grades or start school later than they should have.

What are you talking about? Are you saying the 2020 crush team has reclassified kids or kids playing down?
If you are you are wrong. End of story and move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush 2020 has beat MANY other 2019 teams in MANY other tournaments not just this one.

Yes, they have beat up many AWFUL 2019 teams in other tournaments. They have not beaten any decent 2019 teams.

Which AWFUL teams are you talking about? Although they don't always win when playing up, they have beaten some very good 2019 teams, and been quite competitive with others. You should be happy they play up and not blow out your on grade team. That's not good for anyone!

Heard crush got crushed in tournament anybody know if any truth. I'm shocked

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush got crushed in tournament anybody know if any truth. I'm shocked

Lost 15-6 to Sweetlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush got crushed in tournament anybody know if any truth. I'm shocked

Lost 15-6 to a 2019 team. Kudos to them for challenging themselves instead of blowing teams out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush got crushed in tournament anybody know if any truth. I'm shocked

Lost 15-6 to Sweetlax

2019 sweetlax with 3 2018 holdbacks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush got crushed in tournament anybody know if any truth. I'm shocked

Lost 15-6 to Sweetlax

Don't be shocked, Sweetlax recruits the best kids from all over including canada. They always have very strong NATIONAL teams. Many of those the boys are also repeating 8th grade. Crush did a great job making it to the championship over all the other 2019 teams, but fell to stacked varsity size team. Nothing to be ashamed of. Several of the boys were also written up as standouts in the tournament. You can stop your hating now and go try to stir a pot somewhere else

Yeah, they really deserve kudos to travelling to CO to beat teams 30-0.

They have a few very skilled players. When the fall comes around, this Team 91 2020 team will lose to several other teams.

When they do play legit 2019 teams, they get steamrolled.

No excuses!! You know what they are like.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, they really deserve kudos to travelling to CO to beat teams 30-0.

They have a few very skilled players. When the fall comes around, this Team 91 2020 team will lose to several other teams.

When they do play legit 2019 teams, they get steamrolled.

This was not a legitimate 2019 team. Key players were older.Fogo had a beard! Which other 2019 teams have "steamrolled" crush? Even Ty Xander tweeting that the holdback issue needs to be addressed.

Watched Crush many times at inside lacrosse a very impressive group playing up the sidelines were packed w college coaches most games. There won't be any 2020 teams challenging them unfortunately. Fun group to watch tremendously skilled. Just my observation

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, they really deserve kudos to travelling to CO to beat teams 30-0.

They have a few very skilled players. When the fall comes around, this Team 91 2020 team will lose to several other teams.

When they do play legit 2019 teams, they get steamrolled.

You mean when the Fall comes around and all your kids reclass to 2020? So ignorant- a team doesn't go from being dominant to losing playing against age appropriate kids. The holdbacks better show up good and strong otherwise they will take a fall for playing younger, smaller kids.

Don't be a hater, you are just jealous that they don't have to be left back and can still compete and a good handful of the holdbacks will lose their desired college spots to some of these age appropriate kids. Sweet Lax was a great national team- no shock there. Good for them!

I can't imagine another 2020 team having done any better- can you? From the tweets going out, sounds like they had a good run this tourney and have nothing to hide or hang their heads.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, they really deserve kudos to travelling to CO to beat teams 30-0.

They have a few very skilled players. When the fall comes around, this Team 91 2020 team will lose to several other teams.

When they do play legit 2019 teams, they get steamrolled.

You mean when the Fall comes around and all your kids reclass to 2020? So ignorant- a team doesn't go from being dominant to losing playing against age appropriate kids. The holdbacks better show up good and strong otherwise they will take a fall for playing younger, smaller kids.

Don't be a hater, you are just jealous that they don't have to be left back and can still compete and a good handful of the holdbacks will lose their desired college spots to some of these age appropriate kids. Sweet Lax was a great national team- no shock there. Good for them!

I can't imagine another 2020 team having done any better- can you? From the tweets going out, sounds like they had a good run this tourney and have nothing to hide or hang their heads.

I think Crush does have a number of kids born in 2001, I also think a number of their best players fall in that category, so they're technically holdbacks, just did it at a younger age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, they really deserve kudos to travelling to CO to beat teams 30-0.

They have a few very skilled players. When the fall comes around, this Team 91 2020 team will lose to several other teams.

When they do play legit 2019 teams, they get steamrolled.

You mean when the Fall comes around and all your kids reclass to 2020? So ignorant- a team doesn't go from being dominant to losing playing against age appropriate kids. The holdbacks better show up good and strong otherwise they will take a fall for playing younger, smaller kids.

Don't be a hater, you are just jealous that they don't have to be left back and can still compete and a good handful of the holdbacks will lose their desired college spots to some of these age appropriate kids. Sweet Lax was a great national team- no shock there. Good for them!

I can't imagine another 2020 team having done any better- can you? From the tweets going out, sounds like they had a good run this tourney and have nothing to hide or hang their heads.

I think Crush does have a number of kids born in 2001, I also think a number of their best players fall in that category, so they're technically holdbacks, just did it at a younger age.

You should think again until you get the facts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, they really deserve kudos to travelling to CO to beat teams 30-0.

They have a few very skilled players. When the fall comes around, this Team 91 2020 team will lose to several other teams.

When they do play legit 2019 teams, they get steamrolled.

You mean when the Fall comes around and all your kids reclass to 2020? So ignorant- a team doesn't go from being dominant to losing playing against age appropriate kids. The holdbacks better show up good and strong otherwise they will take a fall for playing younger, smaller kids.

Don't be a hater, you are just jealous that they don't have to be left back and can still compete and a good handful of the holdbacks will lose their desired college spots to some of these age appropriate kids. Sweet Lax was a great national team- no shock there. Good for them!

I can't imagine another 2020 team having done any better- can you? From the tweets going out, sounds like they had a good run this tourney and have nothing to hide or hang their heads.

I think Crush does have a number of kids born in 2001, I also think a number of their best players fall in that category, so they're technically holdbacks, just did it at a younger age.

You should think again until you get the facts.

What are the facts? Would love to know.

This againnnnnn

its like groundhog day all over again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, they really deserve kudos to travelling to CO to beat teams 30-0.

They have a few very skilled players. When the fall comes around, this Team 91 2020 team will lose to several other teams.

When they do play legit 2019 teams, they get steamrolled.

You mean when the Fall comes around and all your kids reclass to 2020? So ignorant- a team doesn't go from being dominant to losing playing against age appropriate kids. The holdbacks better show up good and strong otherwise they will take a fall for playing younger, smaller kids.

Don't be a hater, you are just jealous that they don't have to be left back and can still compete and a good handful of the holdbacks will lose their desired college spots to some of these age appropriate kids. Sweet Lax was a great national team- no shock there. Good for them!

I can't imagine another 2020 team having done any better- can you? From the tweets going out, sounds like they had a good run this tourney and have nothing to hide or hang their heads.

I think Crush does have a number of kids born in 2001, I also think a number of their best players fall in that category, so they're technically holdbacks, just did it at a younger age.

You should think again until you get the facts.

What are the facts? Would love to know.

Call the coach, tell him you are obsessed with his team, specifically, the best players and ask for the roster with birthdates if you need verification. We won't hear from you again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This againnnnnn

Topics that don't get addressed get revisited time and time again. If someone could confirm or deny that they're best players are or aren't born in 2001 (other than the one that everybody knows isn't), then this wouldn't be an issue. So what's it going to be?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yeah, they really deserve kudos to travelling to CO to beat teams 30-0.

They have a few very skilled players. When the fall comes around, this Team 91 2020 team will lose to several other teams.

When they do play legit 2019 teams, they get steamrolled.

You mean when the Fall comes around and all your kids reclass to 2020? So ignorant- a team doesn't go from being dominant to losing playing against age appropriate kids. The holdbacks better show up good and strong otherwise they will take a fall for playing younger, smaller kids.

Don't be a hater, you are just jealous that they don't have to be left back and can still compete and a good handful of the holdbacks will lose their desired college spots to some of these age appropriate kids. Sweet Lax was a great national team- no shock there. Good for them!

I can't imagine another 2020 team having done any better- can you? From the tweets going out, sounds like they had a good run this tourney and have nothing to hide or hang their heads.

I think Crush does have a number of kids born in 2001, I also think a number of their best players fall in that category, so they're technically holdbacks, just did it at a younger age.

You should think again until you get the facts.

What are the facts? Would love to know.

Call the coach, tell him you are obsessed with his team, specifically, the best players and ask for the roster with birthdates if you need verification. We won't hear from you again.

is this a sore subject for you? why?

Whoever wrote that is 100 pct correct there best kids are 2001. FACT!!!

Use this effort to improve your sons game and you will be astonished his improvement

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This againnnnnn

Topics that don't get addressed get revisited time and time again. If someone could confirm or deny that they're best players are or aren't born in 2001 (other than the one that everybody knows isn't), then this wouldn't be an issue. So what's it going to be?

I'll address it for the 10th time.
They do not have any holdbacks.
Why is that so hard to understand.
Some actually play UP.
NOW LET IT GO.

It's a fact now can we all move on there are about 5 2001 dobs on the team... Now let's all agree to move on. Great season

I beieve just about a every top LI team has kids with fall birthdays. Express, Legacy, Turtles I know for sure do. If that is what your argument is, it's lame. People are upset about full 1-2 year holdbacks for athletic reasons. Is US lax ever grows a set and decidesee to enforce some type of age restrictions the fall holdbacks, if that's what you want to call them would most likely not be affected. Now stop your whining, because having "holdbacks" is not the reason Crush is a great team!

You are right no hold backs just started school later than they should have. Call it how it is

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a fact now can we all move on there are about 5 2001 dobs on the team... Now let's all agree to move on. Great season

Sorry I cant move on. They stated all the best players were 2001. WRONG!!!!

2 of the best players were born well after 12/31/2001. I am sorry Moderators you cant take away how good two of the kids really are by playing lumping them with the late birthday boys.

I have said it numerous times... those late birthdates ("whatever") you are playing great on age "Way to go" but you do not deserve to be saying your playing up. BUT THOSE THAT ARE PLAYING UP... KUDOS!!!!! Those boys should really be celebrating challenging themselves each step of the way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's a fact now can we all move on there are about 5 2001 dobs on the team... Now let's all agree to move on. Great season

Sorry I cant move on. They stated all the best players were 2001. WRONG!!!!

2 of the best players were born well after 12/31/2001. I am sorry Moderators you cant take away how good two of the kids really are by playing lumping them with the late birthday boys.

I have said it numerous times... those late birthdates ("whatever") you are playing great on age "Way to go" but you do not deserve to be saying your playing up. BUT THOSE THAT ARE PLAYING UP... KUDOS!!!!! Those boys should really be celebrating challenging themselves each step of the way.

Just because your birthday is 2001, does not mean you are a holdback. It's called a December birthday and is legit! Also, a kid could be going to a private school that has different cut off.

That's great if they were all December but are you sure

The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close.

Haha, that's funny they couldn't even win a tournament this year and by the time they were rising 8th graders they rarely played up and lost when they tried. Not knocking them because they have some great players, some overrated. Local teams can't compete with national teams with holdbacks. And lax becomes more competitive each year. That is the piece I believe you are missing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close.

Crush lost in the championship game, think that would qualify as a great showing. I remember Turtles being eliminated early on when the tried to play up in the US Lacrosse u15 tournament. And that requires birth certificates. When did they play up and beat a top team?

[quote=Anonymous]The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close. [/quote

Yea ok...lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close. [/quote

Yea ok...lol

Half the Crush team will be committed by the Spring season. Bank it.

Will Crush play up a year again at next year's IL invitational or will they play the same age bracket again?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will Crush play up a year again at next year's IL invitational or will they play the same age bracket again?

I don't think you will see them play up too much anymore. Big reciting year, too many holdbacks, will be harder. Makes more sense to play on age now. Turtles did the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close. [/quote

Yea ok...lol

Half the Crush team will be committed by the Spring season. Bank it.

3 kids max

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close. [/quote

Yea ok...lol

Half the Crush team will be committed by the Spring season. Bank it. [/quot

Yep and back teaching gym in 10 years

Any comments from a Crush parent as to why the final wasn't competitive? Sweetlax was all 2001 and 2002 birthdays.

Because they were better!!

I hope your right and good luck to all the boys. Make sure you get a good education and do something good with it. Don't let it go to waste.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close. [/quote

Yea ok...lol

Half the Crush team will be committed by the Spring season. Bank it.

3 kids max

3 kids? That would be pretty impressive to me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close. [/quote

Yea ok...lol

Half the Crush team will be committed by the Spring season. Bank it.

And frankly, who cares!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close. [/quote

Yea ok...lol

Half the Crush team will be committed by the Spring season. Bank it.

All their starters might very well be committed, but what about the other 10-14 kids who never see the field?

Most undercalled or in fact disregarded penalty is the cross-check/cross-check hold. It used to be if your shaft hit a guy between the hands it was a penalty. Period. Hands had to be together if you were going to punch/jab. Now forget about it. And the bruises on the kids arms and backs are there as proof. I wish this penalty and illegal defensive technique would be enforced, but instead it has been forgotten for some reason. Why?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close. [/quote

Yea ok...lol

Half the Crush team will be committed by the Spring season. Bank it.

3 kids max

3 kids? That would be pretty impressive to me.

I hope they all go to school and break to cycle of the "FAMILY" business.

Do you really believe that crush will have the only kids that commit this spring on the Long Island teams there will be plenty of other kids that commit and frankly in 8th grade do you really want a kid to commit they don't even know what they are doing yet. Why rush.!!?? To the 91 parents crush is not the end all sorry to let you in on this. You have to play to commit so all you sideline cheerleaders that ride the bench you need to find a team to be seen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close. [/quote

Yea ok...lol

Half the Crush team will be committed by the Spring season. Bank it.

Half committed by spring of 8th grade??? They are an unbelievable team.....but I would tend to doubt it. Spring of 9th grade more like it and not sure about half.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]The Turtles had much better showing against older teams that this Team 91 team has done.

Team 91 Crush is pretty good, but nowhere near the same class as the Turtles were at the same age. Not even close. [/quote

Yea ok...lol

Half the Crush team will be committed by the Spring season. Bank it.

Half committed by spring of 8th grade??? They are an unbelievable team.....but I would tend to doubt it. Spring of 9th grade more like it and not sure about half.

For anyone with some free time on their hands, check out the Inside Lacrosse website that has the statistics for each 2019 team. Interesting to see how distributed the scoring is for the top teams in that age bracket with the exception of Crush. I love the way the Crush plays and agree that they have the best players in that 2020 age group, but for those that say it's a team effort, that's highly debatable. They focus on a limited number of kids and when only 6 players score all tournament long, and 77% of your goals comes from 3 players, something is wrong with the TEAM aspect of that org. Kudos for developing those 5 great offensive players (and their defense is solid through and through).

With all the teams in the 2020 group, cant we have some viable discussion that isn't limited to one team (Crush).
Yes congrats to them for winning the WS and being a dominate force, but really people - all this chatter over 18 boys???

There will be plenty of great 2020 players comitted early ! It's LI people it's what we do Every year! And my son does wear orange ! Celebrate how great LI is at the sport we all care about. Half the boys will end up being teammates in HS and college

2 boys. Big Attackman and athletic middie will be off the board early. that's it.

Teams like Looney's, Crabs, etc. will surpass this team in the fall. The team is built around 3 kids. No depth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2 boys. Big Attackman and athletic middie will be off the board early. that's it.

If those two boys continue to grow physically and within the game they will not be off the board. Instead like any good D1 football commit they will probably listen and appreciate any offer given and weigh their options. (whether with academic money or not). Their families know what they are doing and have friends who will help guide (not direct) them in the process. I am glad we will get to watch them the next few years

Final 2015 rankings for 2020

My point was those two are the most likely on that squad to attract early attention; IMHO. That's it. no implication/slander/prop/or fact...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Teams like Looney's, Crabs, etc. will surpass this team in the fall. The team is built around 3 kids. No depth.

realistically I could see the power players moving towards a revamp team a mixed team of 2019 and 2020 to challenge those players more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2 boys. Big Attackman and athletic middie will be off the board early. that's it.

If those two boys continue to grow physically and within the game they will not be off the board. Instead like any good D1 football commit they will probably listen and appreciate any offer given and weigh their options. (whether with academic money or not). Their families know what they are doing and have friends who will help guide (not direct) them in the process. I am glad we will get to watch them the next few years

Don't forget about grades....that is a factor as well.

Let the tryouts begin should be interesting everybody knows you must have your kid on the field in 8th grade or you wasted all the previous years!! Let's watch how this all plays out organizations calling other teams kids left and right.

Grades are the biggest factor. non revenue coaches have little pull for kids without good grades.

Too funny. Crush will continue to be a dominant force in the 2020 age bracket. Nice try though.

We will see there crush dad. I know at least 3 kids leaving that will not be replaced. Lmao

that's funny. "Irreplaceable 8th graders" Ok hater... And I'm not a 91 tatted up, gold chained, orange clad 91 parent...

Leaving or cut?

Leaving?Why would anybody leave you get a new wArdrobe of championship shirts every summer

Originally Posted by anonomous

so they can be stylin' as they work on their car up on blocks in the driveway

lol.. you are quite amusing.. much nicer than the ugly trolls.

too many haters on here sometimes...

Originally Posted by anonomous

too many haters on here sometimes...

sometimes? lol

I thought that soccer parents were bad.. whew

i shake my head with all of the vitriol on here...it makes you wonder just how unstable some folks are!

Originally Posted by anonomous

i shake my head with all of the vitriol on here...it makes you wonder just how unstable some folks are!

you think? Makes me wonder just how these poor kids will move forward in life. Really, truly sad.

Crush, Looney's, Express, Legacy, Laxachusettes, Sons, FCA, Breakers, Hawks, Edge, 3d National, Tomahawks, Madlax national

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, Looney's, Express, Legacy, Laxachusettes, Sons, FCA, Breakers, Hawks, Edge, 3d National, Tomahawks, Madlax national

I'm a MD parent and I haven't seen all of the teams but it's been an interesting season for the 2020's. FCA beat Looneys at least once, maybe twice. Breakers beat FCA twice. Hawks beat Breakers 2 out of 3. Looneys took 91 to a great finish before they lost at NXT. Crabs with the 2019 kids at the beach needed overtime to beat Breakers who was missing 2 of their best that day and then they went on to beat 91 Crush. I'm sure there were more matchups that I didn't see but it should be an interesting age group moving forward. Let's see it on the field!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, Looney's, Express, Legacy, Laxachusettes, Sons, FCA, Breakers, Hawks, Edge, 3d National, Tomahawks, Madlax national

I'm a MD parent and I haven't seen all of the teams but it's been an interesting season for the 2020's. FCA beat Looneys at least once, maybe twice. Breakers beat FCA twice. Hawks beat Breakers 2 out of 3. Looneys took 91 to a great finish before they lost at NXT. Crabs with the 2019 kids at the beach needed overtime to beat Breakers who was missing 2 of their best that day and then they went on to beat 91 Crush. I'm sure there were more matchups that I didn't see but it should be an interesting age group moving forward. Let's see it on the field!

Crabs beat Crush when the cheated! Do you remember what happened when they needed birth certificates? Better watch out next year when US Lacrosse finally grows a pair and forces all the cheaters to scatter like the low life roaches that they are!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, Looney's, Express, Legacy, Laxachusettes, Sons, FCA, Breakers, Hawks, Edge, 3d National, Tomahawks, Madlax national

crabs?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, Looney's, Express, Legacy, Laxachusettes, Sons, FCA, Breakers, Hawks, Edge, 3d National, Tomahawks, Madlax national

I'm a MD parent and I haven't seen all of the teams but it's been an interesting season for the 2020's. FCA beat Looneys at least once, maybe twice. Breakers beat FCA twice. Hawks beat Breakers 2 out of 3. Looneys took 91 to a great finish before they lost at NXT. Crabs with the 2019 kids at the beach needed overtime to beat Breakers who was missing 2 of their best that day and then they went on to beat 91 Crush. I'm sure there were more matchups that I didn't see but it should be an interesting age group moving forward. Let's see it on the field!

Crabs beat Crush when the cheated! Do you remember what happened when they needed birth certificates? Better watch out next year when US Lacrosse finally grows a pair and forces all the cheaters to scatter like the low life roaches that they are!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush, Looney's, Express, Legacy, Laxachusettes, Sons, FCA, Breakers, Hawks, Edge, 3d National, Tomahawks, Madlax national

I'm a MD parent and I haven't seen all of the teams but it's been an interesting season for the 2020's. FCA beat Looneys at least once, maybe twice. Breakers beat FCA twice. Hawks beat Breakers 2 out of 3. Looneys took 91 to a great finish before they lost at NXT. Crabs with the 2019 kids at the beach needed overtime to beat Breakers who was missing 2 of their best that day and then they went on to beat 91 Crush. I'm sure there were more matchups that I didn't see but it should be an interesting age group moving forward. Let's see it on the field!

Crabs beat Crush when the cheated! Do you remember what happened when they needed birth certificates? Better watch out next year when US Lacrosse finally grows a pair and forces all the cheaters to scatter like the low life roaches that they are!

Easy 91 parent. I was only pointing out the tourneys where I was present. Everyone that bothered to tune in saw that game. I don't think that anyone would argue that 91 isn't the best team. I just pointed out the parity that exists at 2020. The next few years should be fun. Enjoy it, it's for the kids right?

Oh yeah crabs* you know why there is a *

Does anyone think 91 will lose next year to a 2020 team? If so who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone think 91 will lose next year to a 2020 team? If so who?

Crabs. This fall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone think 91 will lose next year to a 2020 team? If so who?

Crabs. This fall.

Already lost to that team at beach lax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone think 91 will lose next year to a 2020 team? If so who?

Crabs. This fall.

Already lost to that team at beach lax

With or without holdbacks. Crabs should come to LI and play. I thought Crabs didn't play year round. They are multi sport holdbacks.

Crabs come on here stirring up talk. You lost by 10+ to 91 not only will 91 dominate you but so will Legacy. Our team is getting better and will continue to

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone think 91 will lose next year to a 2020 team? If so who?

Crabs. This fall.

Already lost to that team at beach lax

That holdback team better be able to do more than win by one in OT or else they will look weaker than had they just played their own age. If you play down you better be able to stand out.

Lol good try I'm sure not a legacy parent. Coach forbids writing on back of cage about non sense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol good try I'm sure not a legacy parent. Coach forbids writing on back of cage about non sense.

First of all, the coaches have no right to tell anyone what to do or not do on BOTC.. That is ridiculous. Secondly, how would they know, you are anonymous?

Because they respect all teams and parents and teach the right way!! That's why.. You get caught bye bye. Take your kid money and leave.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because they respect all teams and parents and teach the right way!! That's why.. You get caught bye bye. Take your kid money and leave.

My question is, How do you get caught? You are anonymous and BOTC does not give out ip addresses.. They can't honestly accuse anyone, nor should they.

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol good try I'm sure not a legacy parent. Coach forbids writing on back of cage about non sense.

First of all, the coaches have no right to tell anyone what to do or not do on BOTC.. That is ridiculous. Secondly, how would they know, you are anonymous?

Private organizations have the absolute right to restrict the speech of its members. It happens all the time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol good try I'm sure not a legacy parent. Coach forbids writing on back of cage about non sense.

First of all, the coaches have no right to tell anyone what to do or not do on BOTC.. That is ridiculous. Secondly, how would they know, you are anonymous?

Private organizations have the absolute right to restrict the speech of its members. It happens all the time.

Ackk.. you guys are dense. My sons coach could only tell me how and/or how not to act on the sideline.

I ask again.... How does a coach know who is posting what when you are anonymous????? Does he/she just single out someone and punish them? Please answer me as I seem to be getting a lot of flack about coaches restricting speech BUT no one is answering this question!!

Ridiculous statement.

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol good try I'm sure not a legacy parent. Coach forbids writing on back of cage about non sense.

First of all, the coaches have no right to tell anyone what to do or not do on BOTC.. That is ridiculous. Secondly, how would they know, you are anonymous?

Private organizations have the absolute right to restrict the speech of its members. It happens all the time.

Ackk.. you guys are dense. My sons coach could only tell me how and/or how not to act on the sideline.

I ask again.... How does a coach know who is posting what when you are anonymous????? Does he/she just single out someone and punish them? Please answer me as I seem to be getting a lot of flack about coaches restricting speech BUT no one is answering this question!!

Ridiculous statement.

The First Amendment only bars the government from restricting free speech. It has no applicability to a private organization like a lacrosse club. It is absolutely, positively, 100% legal for a private sports club to have a policy prohibiting its members from corresponding with the media about and/or on behalf of the club, and this can include blogs and internet message board.

Enforcement is a completely different issue. Yes, it would be hard for a club to determine who is posting on an anonymous message board. But this does not change the fact that its perfectly legal for the club to have as a policy that members shall not do this.

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol good try I'm sure not a legacy parent. Coach forbids writing on back of cage about non sense.

First of all, the coaches have no right to tell anyone what to do or not do on BOTC.. That is ridiculous. Secondly, how would they know, you are anonymous?

Private organizations have the absolute right to restrict the speech of its members. It happens all the time.

Ackk.. you guys are dense. My sons coach could only tell me how and/or how not to act on the sideline.

I ask again.... How does a coach know who is posting what when you are anonymous????? Does he/she just single out someone and punish them? Please answer me as I seem to be getting a lot of flack about coaches restricting speech BUT no one is answering this question!!

Ridiculous statement.

I will say it again. Private organizations have the absolute right to restrict the speech of its members. The first amendment is limited to governmental prohibitions. And this right is not limited to some artificial boundary around the field. It happens all the time - in sports, in business, etc. 100% legal.

The anonymous nature of this board makes it very difficult to enforce the policy. But this does not change the fact that such policies are permissible. Therefore, if Legacy has a policy that Legacy parents are not allowed to post on internet message boards (as well as speak to the media, letters to the editor, etc) about, or on behalf of, Legacy, than such policy is perfectly legal, even if enforcement in some instances is impractical.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by Larry LarryMiller

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol good try I'm sure not a legacy parent. Coach forbids writing on back of cage about non sense.

First of all, the coaches have no right to tell anyone what to do or not do on BOTC.. That is ridiculous. Secondly, how would they know, you are anonymous?

Private organizations have the absolute right to restrict the speech of its members. It happens all the time.

Ackk.. you guys are dense. My sons coach could only tell me how and/or how not to act on the sideline.

I ask again.... How does a coach know who is posting what when you are anonymous????? Does he/she just single out someone and punish them? Please answer me as I seem to be getting a lot of flack about coaches restricting speech BUT no one is answering this question!!

Ridiculous statement.

I will say it again. Private organizations have the absolute right to restrict the speech of its members. The first amendment is limited to governmental prohibitions. And this right is not limited to some artificial boundary around the field. It happens all the time - in sports, in business, etc. 100% legal.

The anonymous nature of this board makes it very difficult to enforce the policy. But this does not change the fact that such policies are permissible. Therefore, if Legacy has a policy that Legacy parents are not allowed to post on internet message boards (as well as speak to the media, letters to the editor, etc) about, or on behalf of, Legacy, than such policy is perfectly legal, even if enforcement in some instances is impractical.

Hahahaha. Too funny.

Plenty of Legacy parents post on BOTC, some may be immune to "Punishment" because they are daddy or mommy coaches, guess we will never know for sure, and who really cares, it's only an anonymous opinion!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Plenty of Legacy parents post on BOTC, some may be immune to "Punishment" because they are daddy or mommy coaches, guess we will never know for sure, and who really cares, it's only an anonymous opinion!

Ahhhh someone who actually makes sense.

If a coach "banned" me from speaking to anyone I would tell them to go pack sand.
If there are adults who actually follow these nut job control freak type directors then you may want to research Jonestown. Jim Jones was a control freak too!!

Btw I know many coaches that are control freaks urban Meyer nick sabian bill belichick to name a few how is there product. Enough said if you run a program you do it your way if parents don't like it they are free to leave . We respect all..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Btw I know many coaches that are control freaks urban Meyer nick sabian bill belichick to name a few how is there product. Enough said if you run a program you do it your way if parents don't like it they are free to leave . We respect all..

Dude.. you scare me..

Funny how you guys put half the statements take out what you want. Who is the control freak? I guess you don't believe in freedom of speech just what you want told.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Btw I know many coaches that are control freaks urban Meyer nick sabian bill belichick to name a few how is there product. Enough said if you run a program you do it your way if parents don't like it they are free to leave . We respect all..

This is youth lacrosse that the parents pay for, not NCAA, nor professional athletics. Are you kidding? So you really think if a top and/or connected player posts some thing on social media they will be off the team? Could be the way to out a scrub. All I have to say is hahahaha! You are cray-cray

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how you guys put half the statements take out what you want. Who is the control freak? I guess you don't believe in freedom of speech just what you want told.

Lol. So not true. We even allow posts from jerk offs like you to be public. Happy posting my special friend.

Originally Posted by The Hop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Funny how you guys put half the statements take out what you want. Who is the control freak? I guess you don't believe in freedom of speech just what you want told.

Lol. So not true. We even allow posts from jerk offs like you to be public. Happy posting my special friend.

The guy is lost...

Express has to chang many things fell off big time this summer with losing to laxachussets and tomahawks we will see [lacrosse] many players actually return . Say what you want about Crush but they set the bar for that AGE group

Forget it. Express will not make changes they are very loyal to there players no matter what! They don't care if they fall behind other teams. Not going to happen whoever is trying to start crap.

Not sure how people feel about these August tryouts, like that there are no fall conflicts but August is tough

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure how people feel about these August tryouts, like that there are no fall conflicts but August is tough

Seems like these organizations aren't giving these kids any time off. Use to get the entire month of August off.

if they give them time off you may give your money to someone else.

Agree and everybody wants a shot at other teams good kids.

Watched the highlights of 91 2020 v Sweetlax 2019. Not much on that 91 team other than the coach's son (who has a nice game for his size/age).

91 is going to have trouble going forward as the kids get bigger and more physical. 91 is a finesse team that thrives on fast breaks. As they hit the next grade, that style of play is going to be harder to win with against top teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watched the highlights of 91 2020 v Sweetlax 2019. Not much on that 91 team other than the coach's son (who has a nice game for his size/age).

91 is going to have trouble going forward as the kids get bigger and more physical. 91 is a finesse team that thrives on fast breaks. As they hit the next grade, that style of play is going to be harder to win with against top teams.

Where did you find the highlights?

Saw those highlights That's against a team w some top 18/19 talent. Watch their 6v6 vs the Crabs in ESPN it will dispel your theory

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watched the highlights of 91 2020 v Sweetlax 2019. Not much on that 91 team other than the coach's son (who has a nice game for his size/age).

91 is going to have trouble going forward as the kids get bigger and more physical. 91 is a finesse team that thrives on fast breaks. As they hit the next grade, that style of play is going to be harder to win with against top teams.

Guess you have it all figured out,huh? You sound like another wannabe overanylyzing. Here we go again wiyh "as the kids get bigger and more physical", did you know that all boys grow, not just the ones on other teams? Why dont you just let the boys play, which ever team they're on and enjoy the ride! It is ok to lose, but I guess you should already know that by now!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watched the highlights of 91 2020 v Sweetlax 2019. Not much on that 91 team other than the coach's son (who has a nice game for his size/age).

91 is going to have trouble going forward as the kids get bigger and more physical. 91 is a finesse team that thrives on fast breaks. As they hit the next grade, that style of play is going to be harder to win with against top teams.

Ahhh...Yea don't think so....nice try

They were able to beat every other 2019 team in attendance, just couldn't match up with the athletes on Sweetlax.

I think the only take away here is that it is probably time for them to stop playing up. Still a great team when playing age appropriate.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watched the highlights of 91 2020 v Sweetlax 2019. Not much on that 91 team other than the coach's son (who has a nice game for his size/age).

91 is going to have trouble going forward as the kids get bigger and more physical. 91 is a finesse team that thrives on fast breaks. As they hit the next grade, that style of play is going to be harder to win with against top teams.

you have an obvious agenda, and/or not a clue if that is your assessment of the team 91 Crush team...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They were able to beat every other 2019 team in attendance, just couldn't match up with the athletes on Sweetlax.

I think the only take away here is that it is probably time for them to stop playing up. Still a great team when playing age appropriate.

Looking back...that was the age the Turtles stopped playing up as well. Gets to hard due to the increase in holdbacks and different growth rates.

Heard crush losing 4 or 5 kids due to lack of playing time trying out for other clubs. Good luck

can we all agree turtles and crush are boys lacrosse team sthat are known nationally. Who cares which was better. There were/are great. When they hit college they will mention their pedigree of playing on either those teams. mark my words.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush losing 4 or 5 kids due to lack of playing time trying out for other clubs. Good luck

No surprise there. The kids got to experience Denver but it can't be fun practicing 4x a week and not playing when you are a great player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush losing 4 or 5 kids due to lack of playing time trying out for other clubs. Good luck

No surprise there. The kids got to experience Denver but it can't be fun practicing 4x a week and not playing when you are a great player.

Question is where are they going?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush losing 4 or 5 kids due to lack of playing time trying out for other clubs. Good luck

No surprise there. The kids got to experience Denver but it can't be fun practicing 4x a week and not playing when you are a great player.

Question is where are they going?

I wonder if all those big mouths who taunted these families may start to worry that these kids may now bump their kid to the bench or off the roster. While the top players are pretty amazing, all the kids on that team are disciplined, really hard workers with great skills. If this is true, I'm sure they will ALL find a starting spot on an established A team.

I'm sure they will too. They should bring there work ethic to those other teams and immediately help them. Why would anybody be nervous if there kid is good should want the competition will make your kid hungrier!!

Crush may I ask what tournaments you are playing this autumn we haven't seen you since the fall of 2011

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush losing 4 or 5 kids due to lack of playing time trying out for other clubs. Good luck

No surprise there. The kids got to experience Denver but it can't be fun practicing 4x a week and not playing when you are a great player.

Question is where are they going?

express and legacy

Who will be the best Baltimore 2020 team next year crabs, FCA, Hawks, 91, looneys?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who will be the best Baltimore 2020 team next year crabs, FCA, Hawks, 91, looneys?

Crabs will be because of the age thing.... then FCA... then Looneys.

wow..you must be really bored or have absolutely no life if you are wondering about next seasons 2020 teams...holy crap

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who will be the best Baltimore 2020 team next year crabs, FCA, Hawks, 91, looneys?

take this question to the "holdbacks" thread

A little premature to be talking about next year - but - since the Crabs will do their usual holdback thing - you know the drill... 2019 players playing on the 2020 team means big kids v. little kids once again.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush losing 4 or 5 kids due to lack of playing time trying out for other clubs. Good luck

No surprise there. The kids got to experience Denver but it can't be fun practicing 4x a week and not playing when you are a great player.

Question is where are they going?

express and legacy

...and, if true, that will have a ripple effect to other teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush losing 4 or 5 kids due to lack of playing time trying out for other clubs. Good luck

No surprise there. The kids got to experience Denver but it can't be fun practicing 4x a week and not playing when you are a great player.

Question is where are they going?

express and legacy

...and, if true, that will have a ripple effect to other teams.

Big year for movement

It's all about the kids so no organization should get mad. That's why they do this. All for the kids!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who will be the best Baltimore 2020 team next year crabs, FCA, Hawks, 91, looneys?

Crabs will be because of the age thing.... then FCA... then Looneys.

Agree, the Crabs holdbacks will be better than the FCA and Looneys holdbacks. All these teams have kids born before 9/1/01 so from an age perspective it will be an even playing field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush losing 4 or 5 kids due to lack of playing time trying out for other clubs. Good luck

No surprise there. The kids got to experience Denver but it can't be fun practicing 4x a week and not playing when you are a great player.

Question is where are they going?

express and legacy

...and, if true, that will have a ripple effect to other teams.

Big year for movement

Sir please.....your bathroom issues are not for this thread. Thank you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who will be the best Baltimore 2020 team next year crabs, FCA, Hawks, 91, looneys?

Crabs will be because of the age thing.... then FCA... then Looneys.

Agree, the Crabs holdbacks will be better than the FCA and Looneys holdbacks. All these teams have kids born before 9/1/01 so from an age perspective it will be an even playing field.

I'm sure millon would never allow holdbacks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush losing 4 or 5 kids due to lack of playing time trying out for other clubs. Good luck

No surprise there. The kids got to experience Denver but it can't be fun practicing 4x a week and not playing when you are a great player.

Question is where are they going?

express and legacy

Word is some of top kids on other squads making move to Crush should make it interesting

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush losing 4 or 5 kids due to lack of playing time trying out for other clubs. Good luck

No surprise there. The kids got to experience Denver but it can't be fun practicing 4x a week and not playing when you are a great player.

Question is where are they going?

express and legacy

Word is some of top kids on other squads making move to Crush should make it interesting

Lol, top kids looking to ride a bench? Starting lineup not changing, so what would be the point?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard crush losing 4 or 5 kids due to lack of playing time trying out for other clubs. Good luck

No surprise there. The kids got to experience Denver but it can't be fun practicing 4x a week and not playing when you are a great player.

Question is where are they going?

express and legacy

Word is some of top kids on other squads making move to Crush should make it interesting

Lol, top kids looking to ride a bench? Starting lineup not changing, so what would be the point?

To be coached by the best and play with the best.

I would like to interject here. I know everyone wants their kids playing on top squads and getting playing time in games but if you can practice with a team that has a proven track record of producing great players why not play with that A team. Practice is where your child will get better. Eventually with 4 practices a week your child will get that much better. Please understand I have no affiliation with the 91 program but have had a son playing travel for 4 full summers and have seen all the BS. Yes some kids get more playing time but if your child is getting better playing with the best team and practicing 4x a week he will eventually play high school ball and will get noticed because he is constantly facing the best competition in practice day in and day out.

Yea great point pay over 2000 dols plus travel expenses to get to practice with the best. You must be out of your mind if your kid is good I don't care what team he is on he will get to play in college if he desires. You are only a kid once enjoy it and play! Kids that sit the bench lose there confidence and desire to play! I have seen kids that were the best at young ages lose their desire and got left in the dust. The 3 top 2020 teams on Long Island all have great coaches. You cannot go wrong with any of the top 3. Also just don't go by the head coach see who the assistants are sometimes they make more of a difference are they doing it because they have kids on the team or are they doing it because they love lacrosse and love the game.. Everything else will work itself out!!!

One of the Manhasset 32 coaches is leaving and is trying to get a slot as a coach with Igloo. Why? Ego? Playing time for jr? Whatever the reason a large block of 32 players will likely follow. Why anyone would have their kid follow a guy like that is anyone's guess. But it will be interesting

I would have to say that playing time is most important for a kids development. Not practice. Don't get me wrong, practice is important but real game decision making and play execution is critical. Kids that ride bench do lose there confidence as players. They are not excited when the team wins because they are not really a part of it. My son has been on both ends. As for HS play, you can't count on that. Many top schools are so deep in talent that D1 commits don't see much of the field till senior year. My advice is to try to get on a team where your son is valued, counted on, and appreciated. If you are the bottom 1/3 of the team you are really not contributing, probably traveling far distance for minutes on the field, and can and will be replaced without a second thought!

What are the best "B" programs for this age group. My son was on an A team last year but he just isn't there. I'm thinking he'd be better off getting more experience on a B team and work his way back. Which are the best programs for him

the better Manhasset 32 kids play on express in this age group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What are the best "B" programs for this age group. My son was on an A team last year but he just isn't there. I'm thinking he'd be better off getting more experience on a B team and work his way back. Which are the best programs for him

Are you asking about clubs that have an A team and your son would be on the second team at that club, or clubs where their top team is in the "B" tier compared to other clubs? And I assume LI?

You have hit the nail on the head... You are definitely a realist and don't live in fantasy world. Very refreshing to read!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the better Manhasset 32 kids play on express in this age group.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the better Manhasset 32 kids play on express in this age group.

In whose eyes are they better. Yours dad?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would have to say that playing time is most important for a kids development. Not practice. Don't get me wrong, practice is important but real game decision making and play execution is critical. Kids that ride bench do lose there confidence as players. They are not excited when the team wins because they are not really a part of it. My son has been on both ends. As for HS play, you can't count on that. Many top schools are so deep in talent that D1 commits don't see much of the field till senior year. My advice is to try to get on a team where your son is valued, counted on, and appreciated. If you are the bottom 1/3 of the team you are really not contributing, probably traveling far distance for minutes on the field, and can and will be replaced without a second thought!

I have to disagree with you, real speed practice is more important than games. But it has to be fast paced practice, high intensity is the key. If you practice fast, you play fast. That is a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would have to say that playing time is most important for a kids development. Not practice. Don't get me wrong, practice is important but real game decision making and play execution is critical. Kids that ride bench do lose there confidence as players. They are not excited when the team wins because they are not really a part of it. My son has been on both ends. As for HS play, you can't count on that. Many top schools are so deep in talent that D1 commits don't see much of the field till senior year. My advice is to try to get on a team where your son is valued, counted on, and appreciated. If you are the bottom 1/3 of the team you are really not contributing, probably traveling far distance for minutes on the field, and can and will be replaced without a second thought!

I have to disagree with you, real speed practice is more important than games. But it has to be fast paced practice, high intensity is the key. If you practice fast, you play fast. That is a fact.

Ok, your opinion. Just not what I have observed. There is just this one little thing called genettics. Fact!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would have to say that playing time is most important for a kids development. Not practice. Don't get me wrong, practice is important but real game decision making and play execution is critical. Kids that ride bench do lose there confidence as players. They are not excited when the team wins because they are not really a part of it. My son has been on both ends. As for HS play, you can't count on that. Many top schools are so deep in talent that D1 commits don't see much of the field till senior year. My advice is to try to get on a team where your son is valued, counted on, and appreciated. If you are the bottom 1/3 of the team you are really not contributing, probably traveling far distance for minutes on the field, and can and will be replaced without a second thought!

I have to disagree with you, real speed practice is more important than games. But it has to be fast paced practice, high intensity is the key. If you practice fast, you play fast. That is a fact.

Playing lacrosse whether in practice or games is great for development, however, you need real game experience to truly improve. That's why professional athletes typically play in the minor leagues before getting to pro level. Without live game experience, you can't fully appreciate how fast the game moves, there's a different intensity level and you need confidence to perform when it matters. Another analogy is think of how well you hit the ball on the practice range, and then wonder why you can't hit that well when out on the course? Nerves, etc. You only can perform in games by playing in games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would have to say that playing time is most important for a kids development. Not practice. Don't get me wrong, practice is important but real game decision making and play execution is critical. Kids that ride bench do lose there confidence as players. They are not excited when the team wins because they are not really a part of it. My son has been on both ends. As for HS play, you can't count on that. Many top schools are so deep in talent that D1 commits don't see much of the field till senior year. My advice is to try to get on a team where your son is valued, counted on, and appreciated. If you are the bottom 1/3 of the team you are really not contributing, probably traveling far distance for minutes on the field, and can and will be replaced without a second thought!

. I've seen practice kids outside certain organizations not impressed at all need to grow or become more aggressive

I have to disagree with you, real speed practice is more important than games. But it has to be fast paced practice, high intensity is the key. If you practice fast, you play fast. That is a fact.

Ok, your opinion. Just not what I have observed. There is just this one little thing called genettics. Fact!

Can someone please give a ranking of all teams on LI? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please give a ranking of all teams on LI? Thanks.

Why? They are not even in 8th grade yet. Get a life.

probably meant to say 5 or 6 of the kids on Manhasset 32 play on Express Terps 2020, which by reading all these conversations seems to be one of the better teams in this age group. That's it now get your frilly panties out of the bunch they are in and lighten up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone please give a ranking of all teams on LI? Thanks.

Why? They are not even in 8th grade yet. Get a life.

So wait the one month until they get to 8th grade, then it will matter ?

Crush
Terps
Legacy
Viper
fl$

really what a tool. "please give me a ranking...."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Terps
Legacy
Viper
fl$

Sure thing Viper Dad......

That use to be the rankings!! Not anymore after tryouts!!!! Bank on it!!!

3 Villages # 4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

3 Villages # 4.

Beyond the top 3 it's all opinion

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That use to be the rankings!! Not anymore after tryouts!!!! Bank on it!!!

So tell us Nostradamus, in what way will the rankings change immediately after tryouts?

There are only about a half dozen teams to be considered "A". Most clubs have a decent "B" team as their top team.
And that changes year over year.

Really hate the idea of August try-outs! Would rather see March try-outs and can the fall / winter thing all together. Let the boys play and enjoy football, soccer, basketball, wrestling and whatever else. At this age, by the time spring/summer play come in, some/most of these boys will have grown quite a bit.

Didn't 3 Villages just lose to Manhasset in the finals of Lax Clash? #4? Come on.

The only person that would think 3 Villages is anywhere near the top 10, is the coach that is flexing his muscles in each picture on the 3 V website!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only person that would think 3 Villages is anywhere near the top 10, is the coach that is flexing his muscles in each picture on the 3 V website!

Non 3V person here. I would put them in top 10. They beat Viper and gave fl$ a very tight game

after the tryouts, the top 2 will remain the same. I believe that the spots from 4 and on will continue to change

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The only person that would think 3 Villages is anywhere near the top 10, is the coach that is flexing his muscles in each picture on the 3 V website!

Non 3V person here. I would put them in top 10. They beat Viper and gave fl$ a very tight game

Chippy team and annoying parents....but I agree they are top 10.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Terps
Legacy
Viper
fl$

Sure thing Viper Dad......

Didn't Viper lose to Igloo 2021 twice in one tournament this summer? How can they be #4?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Terps
Legacy
Viper
fl$

Sure thing Viper Dad......

Didn't Viper lose to Igloo 2021 twice in one tournament this summer? How can they be #4?

Probably because they beat true blue, igloo, and Express team 2 and gave taz a run for the money

Why? Because Igloo 2021 would be number 2 on this list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Terps
Legacy
Viper
fl$

Sure thing Viper Dad......

Didn't Viper lose to Igloo 2021 twice in one tournament this summer? How can they be #4?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why? Because Igloo 2021 would be number 2 on this list. You are funny, what is going to be more funny is when Igloo does not go to Denver next summer. Sure hope they use the same birthday criteria they did this year for the World Series of Youth Lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Terps
Legacy
Viper
fl$

Sure thing Viper Dad......

Didn't Viper lose to Igloo 2021 twice in one tournament this summer? How can they be #4?

Why all the venom?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why all the venom?

Good one

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why? Because Igloo 2021 would be number 2 on this list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Crush
Terps
Legacy
Viper
fl$

Sure thing Viper Dad......

Didn't Viper lose to Igloo 2021 twice in one tournament this summer? How can they be #4?

They're not. Just a bunch of teams after top three, including true blue, TLI, Outlaws, Three Village, and probably some others.