Anyone know who's running this? Same crew as in prior years?

is this UnderArmour? Or is it something else?

http://www.uslacrosse.org/events/tournaments/womens-national-tournament/schoolgirls-division.aspx

Different from Under Armour. Through US Lacrosse...

Kid trying out for both, new to this. Is one (Schoolgirl/UA) better than the other or roughly equal?

Okay (deep breath, diving in), both these programs have, in the past, been run by CR/the YJ. There has been a feeling that the tryouts are therefore biased. You can search this forum a year ago or so for that discussion because of course there are those who claim that it is in no way biased.

This is why I wanted to know who is running it this year, although I guess I can safely assume it's the YJ organization again since tryouts are being held at Mt. Sinai.

It's sad that the LI Metropolitan Lacrosse Foundation has allowed this to go on for so long. This is supposed to be a US Lacrosse sponsored event.

The very strong kids from other clubs will make it, they have too otherwise it reflects as a job badly done. The crime is on the borderline kids and the lean towards your own. Don't worry with so many yj teams in every age group these days, many yj kids will be overlooked as well.

MS is hosting because no other high school would step up to do so. Pls check with US Lacrosse if you doubt this. In fact a memo from US Lax went asking for field offers for next year. Further, at last tryout there were coaches from many different high schools and organizations: YJ, top gun, 91 and Express.

My daughter is not a YJ , tried out made 2 nd team last year, coached by Daniel Gallagher. Her high school teammate is YJ , they are of about equal ability , her teammate did not make any team. The 2 nd team , although not sure had about 3 Yj kids. Take that info for what it's worth.

Please stop with the conspiracy theories already. Angela Richie (president of US lacrosse LI chapter) is a MT Sinai resident and son Chris was an all american there, I am sure that had more to do with it.

The problem is that the high school coaches are not showing up to evaluate. US lax has send tons of requests for evaluators. CR is the only one providing the evaluators. Unless non-YJ high school coaches step up, the problem will continue. Averyone should contact their AD at their school and demand that an evaluator be sent on their behalf. Also, it is a full Sunday afternoon. Unpaid. Most coaches are not that interested in giving up their free time.

will the tryout be closed again? I believe in the past that parents etc were told to drop off and leave.. I havent seen that "warning" this year

Coaches are not wasting their time because CR has controlled this for so many years. LIMLF should bring in independent evaluators. Ones who's paychecks are not in conflict with their evaluations.

No parents allowed at all! Not even the ones manning the Mount Sinai concession stand!!!!

Not fair to the kids

Doesn't US Lacrosse and LIMLF realized that when you hold closed tryouts it adds to the potential problem. Why not open the tryouts and have them be completely transparent so that the general public can really see how the kids play? It's much harder for the evaluators to hand select the girls they want when everyone has a chance to see everyone play.

Not sure if I'm going. The Brine tryout was really weird and dissapointing. In the long run I'm glad because it looks like it would have been very expensive. Now everyone is saying unless you play for YJ you won't make the team.

Is the Underarmour tryout fair? I just want fair, I work really hard so that maybe, just maybe my dedication and hard work will give my parents a much needed finacial break if I can get some money by playing lax in college. I have accepted that things are not always fair and "who you know" plays a large part in "where you go". My best friend plays because her dad makes her play, she would rather run track. Lacrosse is my life, I do play other sports but it's mostly to keep in shape, although surprisingly enough there is college interest in soccer by some pretty cool schools.
Anyway, I just want to know if underarmour is worth it or if I should skip it, since the schoolgirls thing sounds like a skip. Thanks guys

Really

This is funny! As if this would actually be the player's writing style! C'mon Mom, at least make it sound a LITTLE like it could be a player...

What was wrong with Brine? they selected 40 girls to make it through to the next round. hopefully you got the nod. The second round is $150.. not that much $$, plus you get a little swag even if you don't make the tournament team.
School girls is a must try-out. first you must be selected by your HS coach, that's an "honor" in itself. second you get the opportunity to try-out against the best girls on LI, also an "honor". And if If you make it... wow.. thats really an honor.
Under Armour is also a must try-out.. there will be college coaches watching from the sidelines. you can be noticed whether you make the final team or not. The "best" girls will make the team regardless of club..although if its a tie, you would be better off being on YJ

Last year you could watch from a distance , I think it should be a closed tryout. At the Brine tryout you had parents following their kid around and giving them instruction etc.If you think having all the parents there would be better I think you are crazy. Why does everyone feel there is a conspiracy , did kids make teams they did not deserve last year ? My kid made team two and I think more Liberty kids than YJ , maybe 3 YJ kids .My daughter does not play club lax as her town team does a lot but did not seem biased to me , I admit not very familiar with the kids on the top team and where they play club lax so maybe that is where all the problems are.That being said I would expect that the greatest number of players would be from YJ as they are the biggest club.

They could have done a better job at brine picking names out of a hat.

Thank you for your answer. I like this site because so many people have experience which is very helpful. Like I said in my original post, my parents are not wealthy and I'm hoping, even though I know the chances are vety very small, to get some financial help playing lacrosse in college. Just one more question-do college coaches really look at high school film? Please don't respond with mean or sarcastic answers, I'm just trying to get as much information as I can.

there is plenty of $$ in girls lax-my daughter received 50% for lax and then another 25% academic. From our experience almost everyone on UA was
already verbally committed. In girls lax most dont use film...most recruiting is done at showcases and summer tournaments

BTW school girls is now open to everyone ...you do not need a coach rec

Although the deadline to sign up was April 23rd. Walk-ons not permitted

Always a conspiracy. BooHoo.

Is that true anyone could have signed up for the tryout? Why wasnt it advertised that way? Why wouldnt the highschool coaches tell the girls that? Instead they make it look like they are doing you a favor by giving you an invite to a tryout that anyone could attend. You have to love these coaches!

It's an "open year" because they are combining this tryout with the u-19 national team tryout.. It's not usually open to all players. Coaches recommendation is still required most years

I'm so confused! I guess I will go if I waoke up in time. Sounds like a long day and if the evauators all know who they want then I will just chalk it up to another experience.

go, play hard, do your best.... You can't control anything else. Be proud of your effort.

Why do they tell you not to wear any markings of any teams such as club or school team, but on the application they ask for your club team? This thing is such a scam! They make it like they dont know who plays for any particular team but they ask for it in the application so im sure they have it readily available as they choose their players.

Just dropped off my daughter at the try out, and on the way up she is tearing up and I ask whats wrong. She looks at me and says whats the point in trying for this, they all ready know who will be on the teams . She is a goalie and despite the edict that you must go in black shorts,and white top, she knows exactly who will be picked because the helmet gives the girls away. I tell her exactly what you just wrote. To any girl that may read this,after finishing the recruiting process the one thing we heard from almost every college coach was that they know how politicly driven Long Island lacrosse is. Do not let todays result define you. Use today to hone your game. good luck

Listen....this conspiracy theory stuff if ridiculous and untrue. FOR EXAMPLE.
Last year the Under Armour tryouts were moderated by all YJ coaches. The coaches of the team were Carol Rose and Tracy Weiner. One of the two goalies was a TOP GUNS KID.
STOP WITH THE NONSENSE AND ENCOURAGE YOUR DAUGHTER TO PLAY HARD. THEY READ THIS SO THE NEGATIVE STUFF HAS GOT TO END ALREADY.

I never said anything about club teams, All I said was when a goalie walks on the field all coaches know who the top touted goalies are and that creates a bias. those 2 goalies walked on that field with E.S.M. AND S.W.R. on the helmet. and as soon as the coaches saw that they knew who they were and they would get a better look than a goalie with a B.B.P. helmet on. no conspiracy, just a fact. If every field player is anonymous, goalies are not. If you don't believe that to be true than your either a fool, or a benefactor of the bias that is trying to justify it. and stop yelling

Yeah 1 kid topgun and 40 yellow jackets. Come on man we all know its not fair.

I'm not sure how the evaluators who have been around these goalies at camps, clinics and tournaments since they were young and have seen them play for all those years creates an unavoidable perception of their abilities. Is that a bad thing or a testament to those kids abilities? You call it a bias because why? Is your daughter a goalie? Who is she since you called out the two kids you mentioned? I'm not sure how you can logically make your argument. I'm interested in knowing how the ESM and SWR goalies are supposed to try out for this or any team? Let me know your thoughts on how to accomplish this.

Their school initials should not be on there helmets! Duhhhhh!

First, I did not call out the two girls from UA last year , the other poster that named what club each was from did, anyone that follows girls lax knows who both girls are, so please stop faking outrage, and neither girls name was used. You say all these coaches have seen all these girls for years at camps and clinics, I say your obviously a yellow Jacket parent that thinks you and your club are the center of the world. I, at this point, need to tell you that you are not. My daughter has never been to a Y.J. camp, clinic , practice, or any other event held by them. So I now need to ask you two questions. 1- how does any Y.J. coach know who my daughter is? and 2- do you really think they would give a non Y.J. kid a better score than a Y.J. kid? And please be honest because we all know the answer. How do they know who is a Y.J. ? Because they know what school they play for, and that Schools name is on the side of her head. I know this
phenomenon is not limited to the Y.J's, but as you all love to brag about, Y.J's are the only club that uses High School coaches as team coaches during summer ball, so they have the most bias.
how do you fix the problem you ask? U.S. lacrosse has made a huge issue about wearing black shorts white top to be neutral. they must have a decent relationship with Brine, S.T.X. and Warrior, I'm sure they could get them to donate 50 or so white helmets for the occasion, that can later be used as a tax write off for the first stick program. And how about independent evaluators. If you are going to tout yourself as the unifying agency for a sport, you need to be above reproach in these matters

Helmet covers for all goalies

Lol. Helmet covers, white helmets? The coaches all who they are. Not their helmets. Are you guys kidding me. What's next? Fake mustaches, wigs or plastic surgery. As the previous poster said at this level these kids are known by the coaches and parents alike. Their pictures have been in Newsday a dozen times. Let it go already. Really.

Is school girls 9th, 10th and 11th?

Any one have any other insight into this try out?
Who were the evaluators? all YJ, TG, Elevate, a mix, HS coaches?
Was the competition "better" because it was a U19 tryout year?
Were there more "committed" players there?
Anyone sneak in and watch?
Any blatant horror stories?

No. BTW your missing Jerry Springer on TV right now. Hurry.

How stupid are you. DUHHHHH.
Buy a new helmet or rip off the school decals for a tryout?
How about kids with school colored sticks? Some have school names dyed into them. Should they buy new sticks for a tryout?
Your an idiot. DUHHHHH

Ok, Thanks for furthering the discussion..

They do the best they can to make the kids anonymous but you have to be realistic, their are certain kids you could put in a disguise yet when they get on the field everyone who knows they are. Some of the kids size, speed, stick skills etc.make it obvious who they are, nothing you can do about it, sometimes it works for them sometimes it works against them.

Thanks YJ mom (or Dad)!

How about everyone makes the team! NO cuts. Everybody plays an even amount of time, everybody gets a jersey. NO hard feelings

you forgot the participation trophy and a snack!

With multiple kids and multiple tryouts I have been on both sides of the argument. tryouts are imperfect at best, select team try outs, club tryouts whatever, there are deserving kids who do not make it and undeserving kids who do. But within that they get a fair amount of the makes and rejects correct as well. It is easy to be familiar with all the kids say on a particular team, know the strong ones and weak ones, then watch some selection committee completely get it wrong. Chaulk it up to the limitations of the process.

This mom is on the mark. we shouldn't waste our time trying to give everyone a fare chance, what would happen if a girl from a school like Longwood or Holy Trinity had a good day and took a spot from a more deserving girl from a better school. Personally, I think the try out process is archaic, why do we even bother, we should just invite the girls that have made the papers, and have the most goals, and belong to the "best " clubs, and when they show up they should have to ware there uniforms so that the coaches know exactly who they are. That way they wouldn't even need there sticks, or have to run or anything. lets keep Long Island lacrosse pure, and not let the riff- raf in. go Yellow Jacket

JUST PUT THE RESULTS OUT!
REALLY IT US TO BE DONE THE SAME NIGHT. COME ON REALLY......

Stupid comment at best.
All the previous post said was there is no way to make the better well known kids anonymous. No matter the markings on their helmets or sticks. Coaches and parents all know who they are. YJ or TG doesn't matter. They all played together at UA last summer and play against each other every year. BTW they are also all friends so you parents need to stop the HATFIELD VS MCCOY nonsense This subject is so ridiculous and started by someone who's kid simply isn't up to par yet and they can't accept that. Happens every year.

Way to twist it moron. You don't deserve a fair share because of that comment. Guess you want your kid to make it even though she doesn't deserve it. Yeah that's fair.

the first two teams were set on Saturday, scramble for team 3

the first two team have been notified already?

The tryout was Sunday

Open the tryouts? Are you dumb or just a stay at home housewife / mommy with nothing better to do. Kids don't need distractions, especially looking up in the stands and seeing you. All LI varsity HS coaches are invited to be evaluators. FACT. CR did not attend the 2014 trouts. FACT. LI Liberty Founder and Manhasset varsity coach is LI Metro Team One coach, which means she is running the show. Fact. All you YJ haters stop with the whining. Stop wasting time and effort making up conspiracy theories.

Brine is a 2nd tier tourney made up of lower level athletes. I love all the parents last year who bragged that their daughter was a "Brine All American". What a joke. Save your money. US Lax School Girls and UA uncommitted and underclass games much better tourneys. It was a college coaches "who's who" at both last year. Ton of exposure and well organized.

The problem with tryouts is if your daughter plays good "team" lacrosse, she will not make the cut. Passing, ball movement all goes out the window as soon as the go to goal girl gets the ball, and that 75% of the girls there at the try out. Every girl that touches the ball looking to dodge their way through a triple team. Makes for some ugly watching with the girls who actually know how to play the game watching. So what is the solution? Unfortunately it is to play with the same mentality and go to goal yourself, again compounding the problem.

Stop your whining mommy. If you never joined YJ why hate them so much? Go to Newsday Sports (on-line) and check out the college commitment pages for girls lacrosse for the past 10 years. The majority of girls (past and present) played YJ. Can't argue with success, but YJ is not for everyone, so go play for one of the other quality clubs and stop bashing YJ. It is so old and overdone.

I do not believe that to be the case, why do you think this.

Wow - an angry YJ parent - shocking!!

Brine was a waste. Went down to MD for the tournament. Very few college coaches. Competition was decent. This year it's even more of a money grab with the extra $ for an extra game/tryout. Glad we did it last year but wouldn't do it again.

don't be surprised if these supposed yellow jacket haters and critics are actual yellow jackets themselves, just hoping to stir the pot. same goes for the other clubs.

What a joke.

The evaluators are high school coaches. Most of them do not run camps. The YJ program hires these coaches for summer jobs. The Suffolk coaches never see the Nassau girls play and visa versa. If you think your player is that "famous" that everyone in the lax world knows her, you need to wake up!

The rosters seem impressive. Lots of D1 commits.

Who are you talking to?

So w your theory the selection process is fair in that most of the kids are not known by the evaluators prior to the tryout

So is making this team for the purpose of representing LI against other areas for the championship? Or is it a recruiting event?
It was mentioned earlier that the event was a who's who of college coaches... If everyone is committed who are they watching?

just win
it is a tournament

You are so wrong ask Larry to find out what High School coaches were the evaluators and then find out how many kids from the schools they coach on are on the rosters! You will be amazed how slanted they really are. I hope Larry has those kind of resources.

Yes, about half the evaluators were from Suffolk high schools and half were from Nassau. They were from the A,B,C and Catholic HS conferences. So what I am saying is that a HS coach from the C class in Suffolk would not recognize or may have never even seen a Class A "superstar" from Nassau ever play. With that said, we all know that Newsday and MSG Varsity is a joke. They only focus on players and teams that call into them. They get it right part of the time, but get it wrong more often. My opinion.

Why didn't you just ask your daughter? Definitely Manhasset, GC, North Shore and East Meadow. I think Northport, but am not sure. Of course there were others too but I can't remember all that my daughter mentioned.

Certain High Schools have anywhere from four to six players on the rosters and there coaches were the evaluators. It's that simple don't be so damn naive. One young lady was ill for a better part of the day and still made a roster. She happens to be good enough to be there but a "tryout" is a "tryout" unless your coach is an evaluator. Get the numbers of what high schools these kids play at and you will the "coincidence" wink wink of what schools the evaluators coach.

Stop w the conspiracy theories already, asked my kid said she knew who several of the evaluators were but did not seem any school or club was overly represented . All high school coaches can apply to be evaluators you should ask your high school coach if they applied.

Weren't the evaluators supposed to be selecting the best players at the tryout? Based on the players names/colleges they committed to...seems like a talented group...

where is the list?

Are you that moronic, yes some high schools have 4-6 kids total on the rosters of the three teams, does it surprise anyone that GC, Manhasset ,St. Anthony,ESM, or MT. Sinai would have multiple kids make teams considering they are nationally ranked programs. Please tell us other than your daughter who did not make a team that should have.

three teams, 60 players of which 49 are verbally committed (only 11 are not)

explain again how this is a great recruiting event?

A-hole multiple kids is fine and best teams have nothing to do with it. There are great players who are not on good teams. It's an integrity issue! St.A's 4- players GC-7 players CSH-7 players Manhassett 5-players Not sure if any of these Nassau schools had an evaluator present but if I had to guess I would say yes. Mt. Sinai 5-players had an evaluator, Smithtown East 4-players had an evaluator, Huntington 3- players had an evaluator, ESM-3 players had an evaluator, Sachem North-2 players had an evaluator. is that clear enough for you. So by your argument CSH should be all world and Northport and Farmingdale suck. Get your head out of your asses. What a joke.

Is the list of girls who made it posted somewhere?

Northport and Farmingdale have zero representation? Come on,,,,,,,,

www.LIMLF.COM

This is a tournament to win!!! If the players are going there to run up and down the field with the ball LI will not win. Who cares if your kid is recruited or not. Play to win and coaches will like you. these girls represent Long Island.

In the past schools could send a max of 5 players, Not sure when this changed. Blame your high school coach for not sending players and not getting involved. Some coaches are at everything and some could care less about anything that they do not get paid for blame your school teachers union because it is about the money for some school coaches. To bad because these towns have some very good coaches that live there but are not teachers!

Are you sure that there were Farmingdale or Northport players there? I do think that they have a few injuries.

didn't see any northport girls there

I don't think many if any of the NP or Farmingdale girls tried out.

http://Www.limetrolax.org/

Ok, so first it was a YJ conspiracy, but now that CR wasn't there, now it's a HS coach conspiracy???? Sounds like sour grapes to me.

Sounds like a tryout with a built-in bias to me. Are the HS coaches associated with any clubs?

Hey A-hole, no Northport or Farmingdale kids trying out , you really are a complete moron. Last year no Mt. Sinai players made it, must have been an anti Mt.Sinai conspiracy except for the fact that they did not go to the tryouts. You sir are just a pot stiring [lacrosse] whos kid is apparently from a crappy team and got cut. Wow two kids from sachem north now thats some solid evidence.

Nice language. What are you 12? Real role model.

Wrong again my child has a teammate from Farmingdale who starts on varsity who did tryout and did not make it, I don't know for sure but I would guess there were others from Northport and Farmingdale.

Exactly Powder you are correct again. Mt.Sinai-YJ,ESM-YJ, Huntington-YJ,Sachem North-YJ,CSH-YJ, Manhassett-Liberty and GC well they just take care of there own as all the above did for there High Schools.

Thanks for proving my point no Mt.Sinai last so what happens Mt.Sinai Gnome coach an evaluator and guess what 5 players this year of only two should be there. P.S. I live and Mt.Sinai and the Gnome told some players NOT to tryout.

Thanks for proving my point no Mt.Sinai last so what happens Mt.Sinai Gnome coach an evaluator and guess what 5 players this year of only two should be there. P.S. I live and Mt.Sinai and the Gnome told some players NOT to tryout.

If you were from Mt. Sinai you would know that NO one tried out last year!!!! There was a playoff game right after the tournament so the TEAM decided it was more important to have fresh legs to win a championship. This year the playoffs are later in the week. Furthermore, for you to say only 2 Mt. Sinai kids deserve to make a school girls team means you have not watched any games or you have no idea what you are looking at! If you happen to be from MT Sinai I am sure you are a disgruntled parent who is pissed off because you think your daughter should be playing! If thats the case your rant is pathetic !!! I doubt that is the case!

For all you conspiracy theorists, Mt Sinai had a 2015 YJ blue 2 year starter for a championship team who is a D1 commit, that did not make the FIRST cut! Explain how that happens if the coaches have all this influence????? The coaches rate 1 station! The highest and lowest scores get thrown out!

Thanks!

I am from the community and thanks Firefighter Bill, you ego maniac YOUR season and watching YOUR games mean nothing, it was a tryout of anonymity, so YOUR past, YOUR championship, YOUR standout players, YOUR club affiliation means nothing. Each player was supposed to be a number on a t-shirt. Our coach was bias period, your ego has you on here defending "the MT.Insano cause" when all of the other parents and coaches are keeping there mouths shut. Typical behavior from you and your cronies. You of all people should know where there is smoke sometimes there is fire.

I am not who you are referring to, so chill out! You can think what you want (even though you are dead wrong). The purpose was the post was to stick up for the 3 girls you said weren't worthy!! I am not even sure which 3 you are referring to, but for you to say those girls only made it because of political influence is ridiculous and unfair !!! If you are so bitter that you can't support or even acknowledge that they are outstanding and hard working players is unwarranted and pathetic. Please don't disparage these girls to make YOURESLF feel better about your own daughters abilities! You have to realize that your attitude will rub off on your daughter and she will have resentment towards her team mates. Is that going to make anything any better? Mt Sinai or any town does not need an anonymous malcontent spewing inaccurate BS. The team has been a tight knit successful program where everyone gets along with no issues! Your attempts to sabotage this are futile! Good luck to you and your daughter. Please be silent on the sideline! No one needs your drama!!!

Relax "Mt.Insane O", like you; people are entitled to an opinion,
If my opinion is that coaches including your coach took advantage of a system and YOUR players were benefactors that is the point not a single player was pointed just the number of players. So not every school was represented as an evaluator over site maybe? or lessoned learned maybe? You just continue to prove to everyone that they are correct when it comes to the "Mt.Insane O" better than all when it comes to lax in our community.

The only thing that is proven is that you have an axe to grind! What "proof" do you have? were you there? No! So all you are doing is speculating at the expense of some great young ladies. Just because you don't write their name doesn't mean you are not singling them out. The list is public! If I am insane for not letting someone disrespect kids then I am fine w it!

Not from Mt. Sinai but you really need help. You obviously have a kid you think is better than she is. You rant against someone who tries to help your program by scouting other teams etc. and say how its all political when in fact his kid did not make a team.Stop being so negative , I would be willing to bet not one kid on the top team does not have some connection with one of the evaluators in some respect, does that mean its rigged , of course not. Those kids happen to play alot of lacrosse coming in contact at some point with coaches (evaluators) who happen to be more involved in Long Island lacrosse than others. My daughter knew several of the evaluators, some thru club lacrosse, some thru camps, some thru just playing for teams that need kids at tournaments, some thru playing against them in school and club. In some respects its probably does help that they are familiar with her and in others it hurts. No offense but if powder were an evaluator his personal bias would affect his scoring its just human nature, last year it was CR controlling the tryout because she was coaching the top team, this year its a broader YJ conspiracy even if the coach of the top team clearly dislikes YJ.

how can there be a YJ conspiracy when there are so many YJs representing all three teams? That's crazy.

This tryout is complete.
NEXT CORRUPT TRYOUT TO COME IS UNDER ARMOUR

Two coaches are YJs and the new addition to the staff is from St Anthonys. This should be a complete and utter sh?t show.

You are pathetic , your kid is obviously not that good. Why blame YJ , the person running the show and coaching the top team at school girls is not YJ and not exactly a fan. Please point out a kid who should have made a team that did not. Yes it's annoying to the parents of kids who made a team , my kid comes from a below average school team and yes had 1 coach who is involved with her travel club , not her travel team. Tell your kid to work harder not to blame it on the big bad YJ organization. The kids I know who made the teams from TJ are excellent players.

Please try to have one post without using the terms pathetic, moron or [lacrosse]. Trust me, you'll feel better.

So you guys want evaluators who have no high school affiliations, no club affiliations but have knowledge of the current girls game.You also want it to be relatively inexpensive so bringing in paid evaluators from outside Long Island would not work. Even if you could get evaluators from outside Long Island you would then get complaints that they are picking a team to lose because they are biased against Long Island or some other non-sense.

I'm not blaming it on the YJ organization but the system as a whole. It's completely corrupt. Non deserving kids make the teams over more talented kids each and every year because of their connection to the evaluators/coaches. If you don't think that's the case, you my friend are the pathetic moron you keep calling others.

Stop blaming YJ when your daughter fails to make a team and be honest with her, she will feel better.

I would say 90% of your posts insult either the parents or the players themselves. Not sure why. You apparently have an exceptional athlete as a child, but you are very quick to anonymously hurl insults at people, as well as ridicule the lacrosse skills of teenage girls. You don't have to do this. Be proud of your successes, embrace civilized debate, and most importantly, just enjoy the game of lacrosse. Good luck.

The poster can't help themselves. The JY's are run through fear and intimidation. That starts at the top, trickles down through the coaches, then to the players and then to the parents. It is the YJ way to bully other people by calling them names, intimidating them, using hidden agendas, being a political animal and clearly not honoring the game. You see this first hand in the behavior of their coaches and directors both in the high schools they coach at and the travel teams they coach.

Everything they do comes back to being the big bad bully. "Fear the Bee." Overtime as more of their actions on the field, at practice, in tournaments and in tryouts are exposed, the more they will lose their power. We have all seen some of their actions and they are appalling. If some of these coaches pulled the same stuff they do in the classroom that they do on the sidelines, they would be fired or brought before the school board. Why don't people speak up? Fear - plain and simple. This is the YJ way!

It is very political,corrupt! High school coaches should not evaluate their own! Why not have have nassau coaches evaluate Suffolk and vise versa! --

It's a combined team and you would still get the TG crybaby crowd saying its unfair.

I'm not blaming it on the YJ organization but the system as a whole. It's completely corrupt. Non deserving kids make the teams over more talented kids each and every year because of their connection to the evaluators/coaches. If you don't think that's the case, you my friend are the pathetic moron you keep calling others.

Is this true, that only school girls team 1 can tryout for US U19 team.

Not sure but wouldn't that make sense.

who picks the u-19 team

carol rose

Not even close

From reading the website, it looks like you need to play in the National Tournament (considered the 2nd try-out) and there is another try-out later in July. Not sure who is doing the evaluations but it would seem that US lacrosse coaches probably make those decisions at that point.

The girls with the top 12 scores on team I from School Girls tryouts at Mt. Sinai will be nominated by Long Island Metro US Lax Chapter to US Lacrosse for consideration for U-19. There are no separate tryouts for U-19 at School Girls Tourney at Ceder Lane Park, MD. The U-19 evaluators will attend the games this weekend and score the kids on the top 12 list and the lists from all the other US Lax chapters. The best will be invited to formal tryouts in MD at the end of July. According to US Lacrosse over 800 girls nationwide signed up to be evaluated for U-19 at their chapter tryouts. What stinks is that if a girl who didn't make the top 12 list or is on Teams II or III and plays great at School Girls she still is not eligible for consideration for formal tryouts in July.

YES. Top 12 of Team I get to tryout for U-19.

Congratulations to US Lacrosse National Champions Schoolgirls Tournament winners LI Metro Team 1. Faced a great LI Metro Team 2 in championship game. Both teams won their brackets and defeated teams from Philly, New England, D.C. & last years winning team Baltimore! Congrats girls for representing Long Island so well!!

How do you know all this?

I know everything, I'm YJ parent

There is this new contraption called the internet and you can actually look up all of this.

And friends who post results on social media. Good showing by LI!

Anyone know anything about the Long Island All American games for girls? Is it only for YJ players?

No there are players from many different clubs but mostly YJ , seems expensive but fun , I heard kids are getting a lot of swag for the money .

Anyone have some insight and prediction on the section8 finals. Any upset gonna happen?

Any idea if participants of all ages have benn asked? Only 2015 rosters are posted

GREAT WEEKEND GIRLS !!!!!
LONG ISLAND GIRLS IN THE FINALS .
#1 AND #2 IN THE TOURNAMENT.
BOTH TEAMS WINNING THEIR POOLS.
GREAT JOB, FUN TO WATCH SOME REALLY GOOD LACROSSE.
TEAM ONE WAS THE BETTER TEAM BUT TEAM TWO PUT A LITTLE FEAR N THE FIRST HALF.

The weekend went great. 5 very evenly spread out coaches. GC, North Shore, Friends Academy, Mercy, and West Islip coaches. Great experience.

What does this mean? Your thought is the coaching was good for all the long island teams at the tournament?

Just for curiosity, which, if any, travel clubs are these coaches involved with?

It really doesn't matter. Please don't turn this into something negative. It was refreshing to see positive comments about something. Nobody needs u injecting any negativity into a great weekend. There was very little coaching going on. The girls went out and played and made their own adjustments. It was a great weekend for Long Island lacrosse. The girls parents and coaches all meshed with no issues. It didn't matter what club or High School you were from! They were all working well together Let's leave it at that! GREAT JOB ladies!!!!

No Yellow Jacket coaches

West Islip was not one of the coaches for Schoolgirls.

i am curious, how do you very evenly spread out 5 coaches between 3 teams? And to make it even worse the team that had only one coach, that coach had a daughter playing on one of the other teams at the same time as the games he was coaching. So even though this coach is very good, at this tournament the coaching was minimal at best as it was obvious this coaches mind was probably on his daughters game. End result this team lost to teams that they were far better than.

How quick you are to judge. No negativity was implied, but you apparently feel there is some going on or you wouldn't have responded as you did. If there's nothing negative, then why not answer the question?

How quick you are to judge. No negativity was implied, but you apparently feel there is some going on or you wouldn't have responded as you did. If there's nothing negative, then why not answer the question? [/quote

Probably because of your history of feeling CR controls all, and the feeling that comes with it that some YJ players may not deserve the recognition they get. Not sure but team one had a GC coach and Friends academy , do not believe either have a club affiliation. Team two was north shore coach , do not believe any club affiliation. team 3 coach was east islip and he coaches TG.

Nothing going on at all. But I have read your posts in the past regarding these events and didn't want to see anyone taint a great weekend. I am glad you weren't going to be negative. but u haven't always been positive! for example:
"Sounds like a tryout with a built-in bias to me. Are the HS coaches associated with any clubs?" or..."Okay (deep breath, diving in), both these programs have, in the past, been run by CR/the YJ. There has been a feeling that the tryouts are therefore biased. You can search this forum a year ago or so for that discussion because of course there are those who claim that it is in no way biased."

This is why I wanted to know who is running it this year, although I guess I can safely assume it's the YJ organization again since tryouts are being held at Mt. Sinai.

That being said, again, Great job Ladies, The weekend was about your hard work and talent and that all!

If I gave you $100 would you complain that I didn't give you more? Some people are never happy. How much "coaching" were you expecting? It's a showcase event for an all-star team.

Rosters are up and GASP it's YJ v YJ!! Some of the girls on the younger rosters didn't even step on the field , so how are they chosen as the best that played high school games this year?? That's what the "mission statement" reads? Seems to me like it's a made up game that YJ founder created so her girls can put it on their transcripts.

This is fantastic marketing by the YJ's. Since no outside teams go the "LI Elite Recruiting Showcase" anymore at Mitchell Field. Let's hold a YJ All-Star game at the same location at the same time so that the kids can add this to their resume. I wonder if they will also be charging their $10 admission at the door at Mitchel like they always do.

Is there a link to see the rosters? If so, could someone please post it? Thank you.

http://www.liallamericanlacrosse.com/rosters_2016-2017

Actually see a descent number of top gun kids , I like the idea of Suffolk vs Nassau and could become a descent event in the future.

Eh, I know some non YJ's are rostered so it's not just the YJs. However, I saw on the website that you can nominate yourself. so, um, really? I guess all nominations get reviewed, and IDK who does that. I saw no PR about this until the rosters were announced.

I have three words for the school girls tournament last weekend..... GO TO GOAL

Maybe the nominations were invitation only lol

Apparently it worked!

I've got no dog in the fight, but this looks like a giant hand job to me - good luck and hold onto your wallets

Cage , you really need to edit some of these like the guy w no dog in this fight .

Every "all-star" type event I've ever been to is like this. Brine, UA, Nike..... Teams are made up of players who are expected to dominate the ball/play for their respective club/HS teams 9 months out of the year. Thrown together, are they all the sudden going to become facilitators, picks and ride defenders?

Why on earth would that post need to be edited? Is it over some legal line? And when was the last time you have seen a post or response from Cagesage? He is gone for a long time now, take your head out of your [lacrosse].

Should be edited because you have some pedophile like yourself talking about hand----
When speaking about young girls .Feel bad for your daughter to be raised by a parent who feels it's appropriate to talk about hJ . Just because your wife hands it out for free is no reason to talk about it.

I thought he was talking about the event and/or the organizers.

If you ever want to see a group of ball hogs... go to one of these.... school girl tournament or Under armour tournaments....

It is hard to watch..... pathetic and the coaches and college coaches dont say anything. but look at her go.... Please do not disagree with this because your daughter is there,,,,,, and by the way my daughter is there too and I cant stand to watch it .....

While I agree w you not all the girls play that way and it becomes obvious over the course of a few games who the ball hogs are and who the kids that play the right way are.

Almost every girl on 2017 is YJ! Come on man!

ok not all... the goalie and defenseman are not ball hogs.. all others are

wait to underarmour tournament... Carol and Tracy pick teams..
should be a complete joke....... come on man have someone that doesnt have a travel club pick the team.

Neither Carol or Tracey picked the school girls team and I bet the UA team looks a lot like team 1 school girls. Do you know why? because they are the BEST players! and there will be plenty of non YJ players taken.

"We are not going to be at the tryouts so no one can say we picked the school girls team, however make sure the following girls make the team or else..."

Yeah sure. I'm sure daniel Gallagher (an evaluator) is going to make sure carol and tracy pick the team. Sometimes talent is obvious!! Btw they won and team 2 was better than any other team besides team 1 there, so they must have done an ok job picking! Let us know who that super star girl was that did not make any team that should have made team 1?

I mean if its YJ v YJ and the compant/organization does this as a money maker thats fine but they should state that. I know there is alot of talent but you can see on MSG varsity and Newsday some freshmen and sophmores had great seasons this year and inot on the rosters.