The Spring 2014 Girls Varsity Lacrosse season will be getting onto the practice fields in both Nassau (Section VIII) and Suffolk (Section XI) Counties in just a few short months.
Now in our fourth year of Varsity coverage, BOTC will be covering Long Island's Varsity Lacrosse news, scores, discussions, and stories.
Please use this thread to discuss the Spring 2014 Season.
Flashback : Here were the Long Island Championship finalists and results from the Spring 2013 Season.
Long Island Championship Class A
Farmingdale defeats Bay Shore, 12-11, Final
Long Island Championship Class B
Manhasset defeats Eastport-South Manor, 11-7, Final
Long Island Championship Class C
Mount Sinai defeats North Shore, 12-7, Final
have they set the conferences for Nassau yet?
Girls Suffolk Playoffs for Division I will open on Friday, May 16th and continue on Monday, May 19th. The Suffolk Class A semifinals will take place on Wednesday, May 21st with the finals to be held at the Dowling Sports Complex on Thursday, May 29th.
In Division II, Class B will begin on Saturday, May 17th and conduct their semifinal matches on Tuesday, May 20th. The Class B final will be held the Dowling Sports Complex on Wednesday, May 28th.
Class C will begin with their semifinal matches on Tuesday, May 20th followed by the final at the Dowling Sports Complex on Thursday, May 29th.
(All scheduling is tentative, subject to change.)
have they set the conferences for Nassau yet?
Yes, quite a few changes, coaches have the info
since our high school coach does not keep anyone informed can you post the listings if you have them - thanks
The Girls Lacrosse Divisional and Class assignments for Suffolk County (Section XI) have now been published.
Suffolk Division I Teams (Class A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Half Hollow Hills
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Middle Country
Sachem East
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Northport
Connetquot
Walt Whitman
Bay Shore
Smithtown West
Smithtown East
West Islip
North Babylon
Copiague
Riverhead
East Islip
West Babylon
Hauppauge
Suffolk Division II Teams (Class B and Class C)
Deer Park (B)
Bellport (B)
Huntington (B)
Kings Park (B)
Eastport-S Manor (B)
Comsewogue (B)
Harborfields (B)
Islip (B)
Rocky Point (B)
Westhampton (B)
Sayville (B)
E Hampton/BH/Pier (B)
Miller Place (B)
Mt. Sinai (C)
Shoreham-WR (C)
Elwood-J Glenn (C)
Bayport-Blue Pt (C)
Matt/Shld/Gpt (C)
Southampton/Ross(C)
Center Moriches (C)
Hampton Bays (C)
Babylon (C)
McGann-Mercy (C)
When will Suffolk section xi ask teams like Middle Country and Half Hollow Hills to play with the proverbial big girls and actually play as two HS instead of One? Sidelines last year seem to support enough players...it's time. Imagine if some of the other districts in Suffolk could combine.
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Do you know the playoff schedule for Nassau? Thank you in advance
Do you know the playoff schedule for Nassau? Thank you in advance
The Section VIII playoff details have not yet been published. As for the LI and State Championships in the NYSPHSAA classes, those game times and locations have already been set.
June 1st - Long Island Championship at Dowling Sports Complex
Class C: Sec VIII at Sec XI, 2:00 pm
Class B: Sec VIII at Sec XI, 5:00 pm
Class A: Sec VIII at Sec XI, 7:30 pm
June 6th/7th - NYSPHSAA Championship, SUNY Cortland (Sec III)
Anyone making prediction for the upcoming girls high school season? Practice starts next week.
Is it a stretch to say Farmindale, Bay Shore Ward Melvile
Anyone making prediction for the upcoming girls high school season? Practice starts next week.
Is it a stretch to say Farmindale, Bay Shore Ward Melvile
Anyone making prediction for the upcoming girls high school season? Practice starts next week.
West Islip and West Babylon will do well this year in Suffolk.
ESM for B Schools.
Mt. Sinai will be tough to beat for the C schools.
Manhasset has a very fast/athletic junior class and will be a force. GC is always strong.
Ward melville will be a stretch. They lost a lot of talent with last years grad class and thier coach doesn't know which end of the stick to use.
Spoken like a true Ward Melville parent. Comment about which end of the stock, is accurate. The team will be very good as usual in spite of the coach.
I am hearing Wantagh has a new Varsity Coach this year?
The Hauppauge HS Girls Lacrosse team is a holding a Girls Varsity Lacrosse Tournament this Saturday March 22, 2014 @ Hauppauge High School (10am-2pm).
This tournament hopes to raise money for Angela's House, a local non-profit that assists families caring for children that are medically fragile. This is the first year the tournament is being held. There will be ten teams with over 200 players participating. (25 minute games)
Varsity Head Coach Diana Lopez, Asst Coach Goodfellow and JV Coach Cascio have planned the tournament.
There will be a concession stand and everyone is welcome to help a local charity and see some great competitive girls varsity lacrosse.
To learn more about Angela's House visit them at
www.angelashouse.org or visit them on the Facebook page at
www.facebook.com/angelashouseThe following teams are participating: Hauppauge, Harborfields, ESM, Kings Park, Miller Place, Huntington,
St. Johns the Baptist, West Babylon, Middle Country and Sachem East.
And the worst coach award goes to , John Glenn. Seriously 25-1 . The funny thing is you would think the Glenn coach would be sympathetic considering his team has stunk for years. Be proud coach.
And the worst coach award goes to , John Glenn. Seriously 25-1 . The funny thing is you would think the Glenn coach would be sympathetic considering his team has stunk for years. Be proud coach.
KARMA
And the worst coach award goes to , John Glenn. Seriously 25-1 . The funny thing is you would think the Glenn coach would be sympathetic considering his team has stunk for years. Be proud coach.
This is why I hate how SectionXI does the divisions and scheduling. I feel that 85% of all games are blowouts. That's pointless for both sides. And yes, shame on Glenn, although not surprised they did it.
And the worst coach award goes to , John Glenn. Seriously 25-1 . The funny thing is you would think the Glenn coach would be sympathetic considering his team has stunk for years. Be proud coach.
This is why I hate how SectionXI does the divisions and scheduling. I feel that 85% of all games are blowouts. That's pointless for both sides. And yes, shame on Glenn, although not surprised they did it.
Makes no difference how you do the schedules in this case, Southampton is a first year varsity program playing one of the lowest seeded programs in the county, they have to play someone.I do not care what Glenn says that is poor sportsmanship,they were scoring at a rate of 1 goal every 2 minutes. Atleast pass it around and kill some time.
Does Nassau schedule differently? IDK and too lazy to look.
Totally agree about Glenn. There are other options than running up the score. Although I know on our HS team when we're up by a lot and the coach says to stop scoring there are still those who go to goal. Some of it is uncoachability (I may have made that word up) but most of it is about running up their numbers. Our coach pulls them though, IDK what Glenn's excuse is.
To bad Lax can't have a league like girls soccer does where the lower level teams can play each other with the best teams out of that league moving up the following season. They can have the teams with the four worst records in both leagues play in this league and have those 8 teams have a home and home with each of the other teams. You would also need to factor in teams that are first yeat lax programs also into the mix; but you get the idea.
The problem with Glenn and Bellport (the same day or the day before) is that they don't get the chance to whoop anyone so they took advantage of the opportunity. Like someone else made refernece to; Karma is a [lacrosse]
I certainly prefer the soccer model over the lacrosse model of league alignment.
Can anyone explain why it's different? I've heard it's because there are fewer lax teams but then why not just have fewer leagues?
Glenn is ussually on the other end of blowouts. they lose by 10 15 goals quite often. They wanted to see how it feels to actually be on the winning side of a blowout.
plenty of games today how did they go
All the programs are ranked at the beginning of the season and divisions are made based off the rankings regardless of Class (A,B,C). Typically makes for more competitive league games throughout the season.
All the programs are ranked at the beginning of the season and divisions are made based off the rankings regardless of Class (A,B,C). Typically makes for more competitive league games throughout the season.
How are teams that make the playoffs determined ,obviously teams in the same class will be playing completely different teams during the regular season.
All the programs are ranked at the beginning of the season and divisions are made based off the rankings regardless of Class (A,B,C). Typically makes for more competitive league games throughout the season.
How are teams that make the playoffs determined ,obviously teams in the same class will be playing completely different teams during the regular season.
There are 5 conferences. All the teams in the first conference make the playoffs in their respective Class. Conf II gets a certain amount of teams based on record and strength of schedule. That formula continues for Conf III - V.
Look at Newsday to see how they are setup.
http://scores.newsday.com/sports/highschool/standings.php?sport=27®ion=NAS
Smithtown 19-0 over cop , at least they did not cross into the 20 zone but to have 1 ball hog kid get 11 points is ridiculous. Another poor job of coaching , obviously did not need 1 kid to score that many , but I guarantee that kids mommy and daddy are so proud .
Lets see if that girls is able to put up numbers like that aginst Bayshore, West Islip, and West Babylon next week!
Smithtown 19-0 over cop , at least they did not cross into the 20 zone but to have 1 ball hog kid get 11 points is ridiculous. Another poor job of coaching , obviously did not need 1 kid to score that many , but I guarantee that kids mommy and daddy are so proud .
Dislike. So much dislike.
Smithtown 19-0 over cop , at least they did not cross into the 20 zone but to have 1 ball hog kid get 11 points is ridiculous. Another poor job of coaching , obviously did not need 1 kid to score that many , but I guarantee that kids mommy and daddy are so proud .
Dislike. So much dislike.
The poster has a point - did Smithtown empty its bench? If so, when? Or did they play their starters most of this nailbiter of a game?
Please be sure you specify Smithtown East played Copaigue...West played Brentwood and cleared their bench early.
Yes, a lot of dislike for the players and coaches who allow the players to be stat builders in blowout games so the can be on Newsdays point leaders board .No possible reason for Smithtown to even keep that kid in the game long enough to get 11 points. I have no problem w a player scoring the majority of its teams goals if its in the context of winning a game, obviously not the case here .
Smithtown 19-0 over cop , at least they did not cross into the 20 zone but to have 1 ball hog kid get 11 points is ridiculous. Another poor job of coaching , obviously did not need 1 kid to score that many , but I guarantee that kids mommy and daddy are so proud .
Dislike. So much dislike.
The poster has a point - did Smithtown empty its bench? If so, when? Or did they play their starters most of this nailbiter of a game?
Karma
Smithtown 19-0 over cop , at least they did not cross into the 20 zone but to have 1 ball hog kid get 11 points is ridiculous. Another poor job of coaching , obviously did not need 1 kid to score that many , but I guarantee that kids mommy and daddy are so proud .
Dislike. So much dislike.
The poster has a point - did Smithtown empty its bench? If so, when? Or did they play their starters most of this nailbiter of a game?
Karma
This is not surprising. It is a shame this what newsday creates,it has been going on for years. Unfortunately this is not the end of this. Hopefully the coaches control these players and in their write ups for the game instead of always putting all the acalades and attention to the kid who continues to chase the points maybe write about the kid who is the team player.
Smithtown 19-0 over cop , at least they did not cross into the 20 zone but to have 1 ball hog kid get 11 points is ridiculous. Another poor job of coaching , obviously did not need 1 kid to score that many , but I guarantee that kids mommy and daddy are so proud .
Dislike. So much dislike.
The poster has a point - did Smithtown empty its bench? If so, when? Or did they play their starters most of this nailbiter of a game?
Karma
This is not surprising. It is a shame this what newsday creates,it has been going on for years. Unfortunately this is not the end of this. Hopefully the coaches control these players and in their write ups for the game instead of always putting all the acalades and attention to the kid who continues to chase the points maybe write about the kid who is the team player.
Get used to it from that team - the two girls will the top numbers in that game will be around for the next 4 years.
Smithtown 19-0 over cop , at least they did not cross into the 20 zone but to have 1 ball hog kid get 11 points is ridiculous. Another poor job of coaching , obviously did not need 1 kid to score that many , but I guarantee that kids mommy and daddy are so proud .
Dislike. So much dislike.
The poster has a point - did Smithtown empty its bench? If so, when? Or did they play their starters most of this nailbiter of a game?
Karma
This is not surprising. It is a shame this what newsday creates,it has been going on for years. Unfortunately this is not the end of this. Hopefully the coaches control these players and in their write ups for the game instead of always putting all the acalades and attention to the kid who continues to chase the points maybe write about the kid who is the team player.
Get used to it from that team - the two girls will the top numbers in that game will be around for the next 4 years.
Lets see if that girls is able to put up numbers like that aginst Bayshore, West Islip, and West Babylon next week!
smith east should be real proud. How many of those super stas are committed to colleges.? zero
What do you do with a coach that always blames the kids for losses and never accepts any of the responsibility themselves? Besides blaming the kids, the coach demeans them both privately and publicly. The head coach is also a teacher. Supposedly the coach has been spoken to in the past but nothing has changed.
smith east should be real proud. How many of those super stas are committed to colleges.? zero
6 that I can think of off hand, including 2 freshman. Get your facts strait before you start mouthing off, makes you look like a fool!!
Everybody with the I gotta Get Mine selfish Lacrosse attitude beating up on poor teams like Copaige. Every year you read about it, every year nothing changes! I love the sport but I hate what the recruiting and travel teams have created. Way to much me me me these days. And the way the travel kids are pitted against the non travel school teammates makes me crazy. There are some very good players that don't play Topguns liberty YJ wave etc. FYI - travel prents, they are not lepers. Question, when was the last time any of the travel programs made sizeable cuts... not often so that means most everyone makes a travel team.
Did recruiting and travel teams do this? I think not. Now you look like a fool with such a stupid comment. The girls are getting better and better. The more they play (ie travel) the better they get.
Everybody with the I gotta Get Mine selfish Lacrosse attitude beating up on poor teams like Copaige. Every year you read about it, every year nothing changes! I love the sport but I hate what the recruiting and travel teams have created. Way to much me me me these days. And the way the travel kids are pitted against the non travel school teammates makes me crazy. There are some very good players that don't play Topguns liberty YJ wave etc. FYI - travel prents, they are not lepers. Question, when was the last time any of the travel programs made sizeable cuts... not often so that means most everyone makes a travel team.
I wouldn't place all the blame on the travel programs. Blame the coaches who let it happen.
Also, I haven't seen any "pitting" of travel players against non-travel players on any of my kids' teams.
Did recruiting and travel teams do this? I think not. Now you look like a fool with such a stupid comment. The girls are getting better and better. The more they play (ie travel) the better they get.
What are you talking about? Are you referring to the post about smithtown east commits where you claimed there were none? Fact is they have plenty, fool! Please stop, you are embarrassing yourself!
Putting up 19 on a weak team with 1 kid getting 11 and that isn't taking travel mentality to a school game? ok
Putting up 19 on a weak team with 1 kid getting 11 and that isn't taking travel mentality to a school game? ok
No, not nice, but reality. In HS varsity stats are important. In the classroom kids don't answer questions wrong because they don't want to embarrass their classmates who are not as bright. The other teams coach could always forfeit. I'm not saying I agree with it, but we live in a very competitive world, and that does not always bring out the compassionate side of people!
Putting up 19 on a weak team with 1 kid getting 11 and that isn't taking travel mentality to a school game? ok
No, not nice, but reality. In HS varsity stats are important. In the classroom kids don't answer questions wrong because they don't want to embarrass their classmates who are not as bright. The other teams coach could always forfeit. I'm not saying I agree with it, but we live in a very competitive world, and that does not always bring out the compassionate side of people!
YJ's try to blow everybody out every game, doesn't matter whether its summer or meaningless winter game. It's good for business, never let up. It carry's over with those girls when they play school ball, hard checks and late goals regardless of the score. It just isn't sporting behavior and its not just them. But I get it, on this board I know I am in the minority.
Putting up 19 on a weak team with 1 kid getting 11 and that isn't taking travel mentality to a school game? ok
No, not nice, but reality. In HS varsity stats are important. In the classroom kids don't answer questions wrong because they don't want to embarrass their classmates who are not as bright. The other teams coach could always forfeit. I'm not saying I agree with it, but we live in a very competitive world, and that does not always bring out the compassionate side of people!
YJ's try to blow everybody out every game, doesn't matter whether its summer or meaningless winter game. It's good for business, never let up. It carry's over with those girls when they play school ball, hard checks and late goals regardless of the score. It just isn't sporting behavior and its not just them. But I get it, on this board I know I am in the minority.
Its called competitive sports. You do what you can to win. Be aggressive, give it your all every minute. We come to win! These girls work extremely hard and most are looking to play in college. There it will be even more competitive! Same thing happens on the boys side. What is all this crying about? If you can't take the heat, get out of the pan! These athletes should not hold them selves back in fear of hurting someones feelings. They are in HS now. This is varsity sports! Please stop!
Putting up 19 on a weak team with 1 kid getting 11 and that isn't taking travel mentality to a school game? ok
No, not nice, but reality. In HS varsity stats are important. In the classroom kids don't answer questions wrong because they don't want to embarrass their classmates who are not as bright. The other teams coach could always forfeit. I'm not saying I agree with it, but we live in a very competitive world, and that does not always bring out the compassionate side of people!
YJ's try to blow everybody out every game, doesn't matter whether its summer or meaningless winter game. It's good for business, never let up. It carry's over with those girls when they play school ball, hard checks and late goals regardless of the score. It just isn't sporting behavior and its not just them. But I get it, on this board I know I am in the minority.
Its called competitive sports. You do what you can to win. Be aggressive, give it your all every minute. We come to win! These girls work extremely hard and most are looking to play in college. There it will be even more competitive! Same thing happens on the boys side. What is all this crying about? If you can't take the heat, get out of the pan! These athletes should not hold them selves back in fear of hurting someones feelings. They are in HS now. This is varsity sports! Please stop!
You do realize that a win is a win right? You think its ok to beat a HS team by 20 reagardless of their ability just because they are in HS right? Thats ok sportsmanship ? You sound like one of the travel parents that most despise. As long as your kid gets her goals screw everyone else. Nice!
Putting up 19 on a weak team with 1 kid getting 11 and that isn't taking travel mentality to a school game? ok
No, not nice, but reality. In HS varsity stats are important. In the classroom kids don't answer questions wrong because they don't want to embarrass their classmates who are not as bright. The other teams coach could always forfeit. I'm not saying I agree with it, but we live in a very competitive world, and that does not always bring out the compassionate side of people!
YJ's try to blow everybody out every game, doesn't matter whether its summer or meaningless winter game. It's good for business, never let up. It carry's over with those girls when they play school ball, hard checks and late goals regardless of the score. It just isn't sporting behavior and its not just them. But I get it, on this board I know I am in the minority.
Its called competitive sports. You do what you can to win. Be aggressive, give it your all every minute. We come to win! These girls work extremely hard and most are looking to play in college. There it will be even more competitive! Same thing happens on the boys side. What is all this crying about? If you can't take the heat, get out of the pan! These athletes should not hold them selves back in fear of hurting someones feelings. They are in HS now. This is varsity sports! Please stop!
You do realize that a win is a win right? You think its ok to beat a HS team by 20 reagardless of their ability just because they are in HS right? Thats ok sportsmanship ? You sound like one of the travel parents that most despise. As long as your kid gets her goals screw everyone else. Nice!
Actually, it's happened to my kids both ways! We live and learn! Sports is about winning, that's the way it is. It sucks losing by double digits but sometimes a team is that good! I also know that what comes around goes around. You may win by a lot today, and tomorrow get schooled. You have to learn from it and try to get better. Not whine and feel sorry for yourself. Varsity sports are very competitive with a lot on the line, it's not a place for every kid!
Putting up 19 on a weak team with 1 kid getting 11 and that isn't taking travel mentality to a school game? ok
No, not nice, but reality. In HS varsity stats are important. In the classroom kids don't answer questions wrong because they don't want to embarrass their classmates who are not as bright. The other teams coach could always forfeit. I'm not saying I agree with it, but we live in a very competitive world, and that does not always bring out the compassionate side of people!
YJ's try to blow everybody out every game, doesn't matter whether its summer or meaningless winter game. It's good for business, never let up. It carry's over with those girls when they play school ball, hard checks and late goals regardless of the score. It just isn't sporting behavior and its not just them. But I get it, on this board I know I am in the minority.
Its called competitive sports. You do what you can to win. Be aggressive, give it your all every minute. We come to win! These girls work extremely hard and most are looking to play in college. There it will be even more competitive! Same thing happens on the boys side. What is all this crying about? If you can't take the heat, get out of the pan! These athletes should not hold them selves back in fear of hurting someones feelings. They are in HS now. This is varsity sports! Please stop!
You do realize that a win is a win right? You think its ok to beat a HS team by 20 reagardless of their ability just because they are in HS right? Thats ok sportsmanship ? You sound like one of the travel parents that most despise. As long as your kid gets her goals screw everyone else. Nice!
Actually, it's happened to my kids both ways! We live and learn! Sports is about winning, that's the way it is. It sucks losing by double digits but sometimes a team is that good! I also know that what comes around goes around. You may win by a lot today, and tomorrow get schooled. You have to learn from it and try to get better. Not whine and feel sorry for yourself. Varsity sports are very competitive with a lot on the line, it's not a place for every kid!
Only a TOOL tries to justify bad sportsmanship. My kid is just too good, me and the coach can't stop her I'm sorry the other team is so weak but that's not our problem
That's why Duke's calling:) Sorry, it can't be everyone. That's why they call it competitive athletics. The cream rises to the top, and doors open. That's why we invested 1000's
I don't think anyone wants games to not be competitive, but I also don't think there is any good reason (other than blowing up your stats) to play such lopsided games. Neither side benefits.
That's why Duke's calling:) Sorry, it can't be everyone. That's why they call it competitive athletics. The cream rises to the top, and doors open. That's why we invested 1000's
Good for you, glad your happy, but still a TOOL
from what I understand is the Smith e coach is new this year, in the past the coach would never allow this to happen. and yes the 2 top players played all but n3-5 minutes of the game and there were girls that did not see any playing time on the smithtown bench
The girl you are talking about has alot of talent, watch her play she is that good, hse also has a pretty solid team behind her.
this is not about a girl or even a whole team of girls this is on the coaches for allowing his/her teams to run up the score on lesser skilled opponents. there are plenty of ways to play the game, and win the game without embarrassing the other team. empty the bench, work on your stall, don't double, work your zone, get your goalie involved on the clear, shoot over the top, reverse the ball on the clear. these and many other things can be done in a way that it will not embarrass your opponent. As to the poster that said this is "competitive High School Lacrosse" 9-8,10-6,20-15 is competitive.19-0 is uncalled for. The most "competitive programs" will not embarrass a lesser opponent unless it is warranted for some reason. Take a look at ST Anthonys,who some believe to be the most "competitive" team around,and you will find that in the last couple of years they may have beaten an opponent by 15 or more once. Competition is about the win not the score. Have no dog in the fight just an observation
Great athletes no question, but you would think that a great athlete would be smart enough to know games like these are decided before they get off teh bus. How about the great athlete work in some of my friends and teammates and spread the wealth and gain some respect. But NO, gotta get MINE thats what my parents and travel coach says. Its just a sad and selfish game sometimes and thats unfortunate.
from what I understand is the Smith e coach is new this year, in the past the coach would never allow this to happen. and yes the 2 top players played all but n3-5 minutes of the game and there were girls that did not see any playing time on the smithtown bench
You have no idea what you are talking about. Check the stats from the last 2 years, each year there one girl that chased the points on this team. Both have since graduated, a different girl each of those years. What is funny is both years this team should have made the playoffs and did not because of lack of team play. It was one player each of those years trying to showcase themselves and nobody stepped in to stop it.
I might kick myself later..But, I think the wisecracks about CR above are out of line and should be taken down....
from what I understand is the Smith e coach is new this year, in the past the coach would never allow this to happen. and yes the 2 top players played all but n3-5 minutes of the game and there were girls that did not see any playing time on the smithtown bench
You have no idea what you are talking about. Check the stats from the last 2 years, each year there one girl that chased the points on this team. Both have since graduated, a different girl each of those years. What is funny is both years this team should have made the playoffs and did not because of lack of team play. It was one player each of those years trying to showcase themselves and nobody stepped in to stop it.
Are you saying this girl isn't chasing points? It seems as though she is. And if so, it's going to be a long 4 years for her teammates.
I might kick myself later..But, I think the wisecracks about CR above are out of line and should be taken down....
People are entitled to their opinions. In this particular I have read chapter and verse on this board about how CR seems to treat people and that she uses bullying tactics. Speaking from personal experience she did try exactly those tactics on me. So from my own direct personal experience I can attribute credibility to what many are writing here.
I may have to to a YJ game and introduce myself to CR. I am always happy to make new friends.
The girl you are talking about has alot of talent, watch her play she is that good, hse also has a pretty solid team behind her.
If she were that good she would have enough self confidence to not score 11 points against Cop., your better players would be embarrassed. Again there are games that are competitive and you need your better players to take control , this was not one of them. If you can say they would not have won that game without her I would get it but obviously not the case.
Great athletes no question, but you would think that a great athlete would be smart enough to know games like these are decided before they get off teh bus. How about the great athlete work in some of my friends and teammates and spread the wealth and gain some respect. But NO, gotta get MINE thats what my parents and travel coach says. Its just a sad and selfish game sometimes and thats unfortunate.
You lose all credibility when you blame her travel coach. Tell her high school coach to do the right thing , her travel coach has nothing to do with it.
What do you do with a coach that always blames the kids for losses and never accepts any of the responsibility themselves? Besides blaming the kids, the coach demeans them both privately and publicly. The head coach is also a teacher. Supposedly the coach has been spoken to in the past but nothing has changed.
No coach should be allowed to demean their players. What school is this? Nassau or Suffolk?
I might kick myself later..But, I think the wisecracks about CR above are out of line and should be taken down....
People are entitled to their opinions. In this particular I have read chapter and verse on this board about how CR seems to treat people and that she uses bullying tactics. Speaking from personal experience she did try exactly those tactics on me. So from my own direct personal experience I can attribute credibility to what many are writing here.
I may have to to a YJ game and introduce myself to CR. I am always happy to make new friends.
They are attacking her looks which has nothing to do with anything you just said.You should definitely show up at a YJ event and introduce yourself from behind the computer screen and see how that turns out.
I might kick myself later..But, I think the wisecracks about CR above are out of line and should be taken down....
You are right, it is wrong to anonymously post any jokes or criticism about anyone in the LI Lax community on this site.... Remove all the posts and shut it all down!!!
Great athletes no question, but you would think that a great athlete would be smart enough to know games like these are decided before they get off teh bus. How about the great athlete work in some of my friends and teammates and spread the wealth and gain some respect. But NO, gotta get MINE thats what my parents and travel coach says. Its just a sad and selfish game sometimes and thats unfortunate.
You lose all credibility when you blame her travel coach. Tell her high school coach to do the right thing , her travel coach has nothing to do with it.
I disagree, If mommy and daddy tell her on every car ride "get yours" and northwestern will be calling and then the travel coach reinforces that same message "we need to kill everyone" because CR says its good for her business you think a HS coach is going to reel that kid in? Selfish is selfish doesnt go on and off like a switch. You kool aid drinkers think poor sportsmanship can be justified because of competitivness and uncontrollable skill. It never can be especially in school sports. You want to act that way in summer go ahead that is what you have chosen and pay for. But show some class on the school fields. Be humble
The girl you are talking about has alot of talent, watch her play she is that good, hse also has a pretty solid team behind her.
If she were that good she would have enough self confidence to not score 11 points against Cop., your better players would be embarrassed. Again there are games that are competitive and you need your better players to take control , this was not one of them. If you can say they would not have won that game without her I would get it but obviously not the case.
It's the nutty parents who are chirping in the daughters ear, they have worn out there welcome in Smithtown and on the YJ team, it's all about "me me me me" and look at what little "star" did today. Womens Lax ends after college, so go to that subpar academic college but a great lax program and than struggle to get a job. All the fan fair will end morons!
I might kick myself later..But, I think the wisecracks about CR above are out of line and should be taken down....
People are entitled to their opinions. In this particular I have read chapter and verse on this board about how CR seems to treat people and that she uses bullying tactics. Speaking from personal experience she did try exactly those tactics on me. So from my own direct personal experience I can attribute credibility to what many are writing here.
I may have to to a YJ game and introduce myself to CR. I am always happy to make new friends.
I wont argue about her tactics or bullying but when her appearance gets attacked I think its out of line..
I might kick myself later..But, I think the wisecracks about CR above are out of line and should be taken down....
People are entitled to their opinions. In this particular I have read chapter and verse on this board about how CR seems to treat people and that she uses bullying tactics. Speaking from personal experience she did try exactly those tactics on me. So from my own direct personal experience I can attribute credibility to what many are writing here.
I may have to to a YJ game and introduce myself to CR. I am always happy to make new friends.
They are attacking her looks which has nothing to do with anything you just said.You should definitely show up at a YJ event and introduce yourself from behind the computer screen and see how that turns out.
I might kick myself later..But, I think the wisecracks about CR above are out of line and should be taken down....
People are entitled to their opinions. In this particular I have read chapter and verse on this board about how CR seems to treat people and that she uses bullying tactics. Speaking from personal experience she did try exactly those tactics on me. So from my own direct personal experience I can attribute credibility to what many are writing here.
I may have to to a YJ game and introduce myself to CR. I am always happy to make new friends.
They are attacking her looks which has nothing to do with anything you just said.You should definitely show up at a YJ event and introduce yourself from behind the computer screen and see how that turns out.
I might kick myself later..But, I think the wisecracks about CR above are out of line and should be taken down....
People are entitled to their opinions. In this particular I have read chapter and verse on this board about how CR seems to treat people and that she uses bullying tactics. Speaking from personal experience she did try exactly those tactics on me. So from my own direct personal experience I can attribute credibility to what many are writing here.
I may have to to a YJ game and introduce myself to CR. I am always happy to make new friends.
They are attacking her looks which has nothing to do with anything you just said.You should definitely show up at a YJ event and introduce yourself from behind the computer screen and see how that turns out.
I might kick myself later..But, I think the wisecracks about CR above are out of line and should be taken down....
You are right, it is wrong to anonymously post any jokes or criticism about anyone in the LI Lax community on this site.... Remove all the posts and shut it all down!!!
I might kick myself later..But, I think the wisecracks about CR above are out of line and should be taken down....
You are right, it is wrong to anonymously post any jokes or criticism about anyone in the LI Lax community on this site.... Remove all the posts and shut it all down!!!
I might kick myself later..But, I think the wisecracks about CR above are out of line and should be taken down....
People are entitled to their opinions. In this particular I have read chapter and verse on this board about how CR seems to treat people and that she uses bullying tactics. Speaking from personal experience she did try exactly those tactics on me. So from my own direct personal experience I can attribute credibility to what many are writing here.
I may have to to a YJ game and introduce myself to CR. I am always happy to make new friends.
They are attacking her looks which has nothing to do with anything you just said.You should definitely show up at a YJ event and introduce yourself from behind the computer screen and see how that turns out.
You almost make it sound like a dare. It is something I will do if I'm out riding and I know there is a game nearby.
The girl you are talking about has alot of talent, watch her play she is that good, hse also has a pretty solid team behind her.
If she were that good she would have enough self confidence to not score 11 points against Cop., your better players would be embarrassed. Again there are games that are competitive and you need your better players to take control , this was not one of them. If you can say they would not have won that game without her I would get it but obviously not the case.
It's the nutty parents who are chirping in the daughters ear, they have worn out there welcome in Smithtown and on the YJ team, it's all about "me me me me" and look at what little "star" did today. Womens Lax ends after college, so go to that subpar academic college but a great lax program and than struggle to get a job. All the fan fair will end morons!
Sounds like jealousy! Did you know that people get jobs coming out off all colleges, including Suffolk Community!
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I disagree, If mommy and daddy tell her on every car ride "get yours" and northwestern will be calling and then the travel coach reinforces that same message "we need to kill everyone" because CR says its good for her business you think a HS coach is going to reel that kid in? Selfish is selfish doesnt go on and off like a switch. You kool aid drinkers think poor sportsmanship can be justified because of competitivness and uncontrollable skill. It never can be especially in school sports. You want to act that way in summer go ahead that is what you have chosen and pay for. But show some class on the school fields. Be humble [/quote]
Same in PAL its starting younger and younger. We win 17 - 5 and the girl in the middle has 12 goals. But when you have 8th graders committing to college its only going to get worse. Unfortunate for the rest of us.
It's the nutty parents who are chirping in the daughters ear, they have worn out there welcome in Smithtown and on the YJ team, it's all about "me me me me" and look at what little "star" did today. Womens Lax ends after college, so go to that subpar academic college but a great lax program and than struggle to get a job. All the fan fair will end morons!
That's my take, too, not specific to Smithtown because I don't know them but the numbers-players all around. I've heard it firsthand, "How many goals did you get? Who scored?" And those parents are the ones checking the scoring leaders on Newsday every day. When they aren't at a game, they call and ask those questions. Not, "What's the score? How are we doing?" but "Who scored?"
The girl you are talking about has alot of talent, watch her play she is that good, hse also has a pretty solid team behind her.
If she were that good she would have enough self confidence to not score 11 points against Cop., your better players would be embarrassed. Again there are games that are competitive and you need your better players to take control , this was not one of them. If you can say they would not have won that game without her I would get it but obviously not the case.
It's the nutty parents who are chirping in the daughters ear, they have worn out there welcome in Smithtown and on the YJ team, it's all about "me me me me" and look at what little "star" did today. Womens Lax ends after college, so go to that subpar academic college but a great lax program and than struggle to get a job. All the fan fair will end morons!
Speaking of subpar college choices and morons maybe you should concern yourself with learning how to spell fanfare before you attack a 15 year old .
The girl you are talking about has alot of talent, watch her play she is that good, hse also has a pretty solid team behind her.
If she were that good she would have enough self confidence to not score 11 points against Cop., your better players would be embarrassed. Again there are games that are competitive and you need your better players to take control , this was not one of them. If you can say they would not have won that game without her I would get it but obviously not the case.
It's the nutty parents who are chirping in the daughters ear, they have worn out there welcome in Smithtown and on the YJ team, it's all about "me me me me" and look at what little "star" did today. Womens Lax ends after college, so go to that subpar academic college but a great lax program and than struggle to get a job. All the fan fair will end morons!
Sounds like jealousy! Did you know that people get jobs coming out off all colleges, including Suffolk Community!
First of all read carefully I didn't say they couldn't get jobs what I said was "struggle" to get jobs. What I am getting at is some schools have stronger alumni base contacts than others Ivies, Dukes, Notre Dames of the world as opposed to the Florida's, Towsons and UMasses of the world. So keep running up the scores in High School games and some will try and keep running there to better academic institutions.
The girl you are talking about has alot of talent, watch her play she is that good, hse also has a pretty solid team behind her.
If she were that good she would have enough self confidence to not score 11 points against Cop., your better players would be embarrassed. Again there are games that are competitive and you need your better players to take control , this was not one of them. If you can say they would not have won that game without her I would get it but obviously not the case.
It's the nutty parents who are chirping in the daughters ear, they have worn out there welcome in Smithtown and on the YJ team, it's all about "me me me me" and look at what little "star" did today. Womens Lax ends after college, so go to that subpar academic college but a great lax program and than struggle to get a job. All the fan fair will end morons!
Sounds like jealousy! Did you know that people get jobs coming out off all colleges, including Suffolk Community!
First of all read carefully I didn't say they couldn't get jobs what I said was "struggle" to get jobs. What I am getting at is some schools have stronger alumni base contacts than others Ivies, Dukes, Notre Dames of the world as opposed to the Florida's, Towsons and UMasses of the world. So keep running up the scores in High School games and some will try and keep running there to better academic institutions.
You have no way of knowing who will struugle to get/keep a job following college. You are looking for some angle to put a graet player down. Like I said, jealousy! Do you complain when Melo scores 40pts in a bball game? Ballhog, right?
The girl you are talking about has alot of talent, watch her play she is that good, hse also has a pretty solid team behind her.
If she were that good she would have enough self confidence to not score 11 points against Cop., your better players would be embarrassed. Again there are games that are competitive and you need your better players to take control , this was not one of them. If you can say they would not have won that game without her I would get it but obviously not the case.
It's the nutty parents who are chirping in the daughters ear, they have worn out there welcome in Smithtown and on the YJ team, it's all about "me me me me" and look at what little "star" did today. Womens Lax ends after college, so go to that subpar academic college but a great lax program and than struggle to get a job. All the fan fair will end morons!
Sounds like jealousy! Did you know that people get jobs coming out off all colleges, including Suffolk Community!
First of all read carefully I didn't say they couldn't get jobs what I said was "struggle" to get jobs. What I am getting at is some schools have stronger alumni base contacts than others Ivies, Dukes, Notre Dames of the world as opposed to the Florida's, Towsons and UMasses of the world. So keep running up the scores in High School games and some will try and keep running there to better academic institutions.
Please tell us the Ivy League school your daughter will be attending.
smith e has to be one of the dirtiest teams in the league. Folks there is a difference between playing aggressive and dirty, They are flat out dirty. count there total cards. nobody gets more
when is the last time smith e won a playoff game. thankyou this says a lot
Check the stats on all the other teams and see the scores run up in other games.
Unless you were there to see Smithtown having a catch and practicing plays and cuts during the game, you should keep quiet. Team points are important in case you don't understand how it works. In addition, I am a friend of that girl ,and she had just as many assists As goals. Those assists obviously could have been goals as well. Jealousy rears its ugly face.
Your a friend so obviously biased , calling the kid a great player is just silly , is she a good player yes but young .You justify it by saying she had more assists than goals I guarantee that was the plan hoping she did not look like a ball hog racking up 11 points against a team w inferior skills .That fools no one.
Your a friend so obviously biased , calling the kid a great player is just silly , is she a good player yes but young .You justify it by saying she had more assists than goals I guarantee that was the plan hoping she did not look like a ball hog racking up 11 points against a team w inferior skills .That fools no one.
Jealous fool! Worry about why your own kid isn't scoring!
Your a friend so obviously biased , calling the kid a great player is just silly , is she a good player yes but young .You justify it by saying she had more assists than goals I guarantee that was the plan hoping she did not look like a ball hog racking up 11 points against a team w inferior skills .That fools no one.
Jealous fool! Worry about why your own kid isn't scoring!
I love It ! Bandana dad and double wide trailer Smithtown East crew getting slapped around on BOTC. What goes around comes around!
The girl you are talking about has alot of talent, watch her play she is that good, hse also has a pretty solid team behind her.
If she were that good she would have enough self confidence to not score 11 points against Cop., your better players would be embarrassed. Again there are games that are competitive and you need your better players to take control , this was not one of them. If you can say they would not have won that game without her I would get it but obviously not the case.
It's the nutty parents who are chirping in the daughters ear, they have worn out there welcome in Smithtown and on the YJ team, it's all about "me me me me" and look at what little "star" did today. Womens Lax ends after college, so go to that subpar academic college but a great lax program and than struggle to get a job. All the fan fair will end morons!
Sounds like jealousy! Did you know that people get jobs coming out off all colleges, including Suffolk Community!
First of all read carefully I didn't say they couldn't get jobs what I said was "struggle" to get jobs. What I am getting at is some schools have stronger alumni base contacts than others Ivies, Dukes, Notre Dames of the world as opposed to the Florida's, Towsons and UMasses of the world. So keep running up the scores in High School games and some will try and keep running there to better academic institutions.
Be careful with your "Dukes, Notre Dames and Ivys" they are giving you very little, if any, money. You will rack up a quarter million in debt for a kid that has the potential of meeting the man of her dreams at one of these prestigious institutions and never utilizing those strong alumni contacts... Have your daughter get the best education possible without incurring huge debt! If she plays lax too, that's great.
Your a friend so obviously biased , calling the kid a great player is just silly , is she a good player yes but young .You justify it by saying she had more assists than goals I guarantee that was the plan hoping she did not look like a ball hog racking up 11 points against a team w inferior skills .That fools no one.
Jealous fool! Worry about why your own kid isn't scoring!
I love It ! Bandana dad and double wide trailer Smithtown East crew getting slapped around on BOTC. What goes around comes around!
And where is your daughter committed? Oh, nowhere, cause she can't score any goals!
The girl you are talking about has alot of talent, watch her play she is that good, hse also has a pretty solid team behind her.
If she were that good she would have enough self confidence to not score 11 points against Cop., your better players would be embarrassed. Again there are games that are competitive and you need your better players to take control , this was not one of them. If you can say they would not have won that game without her I would get it but obviously not the case.
It's the nutty parents who are chirping in the daughters ear, they have worn out there welcome in Smithtown and on the YJ team, it's all about "me me me me" and look at what little "star" did today. Womens Lax ends after college, so go to that subpar academic college but a great lax program and than struggle to get a job. All the fan fair will end morons!
Sounds like jealousy! Did you know that people get jobs coming out off all colleges, including Suffolk Community!
First of all read carefully I didn't say they couldn't get jobs what I said was "struggle" to get jobs. What I am getting at is some schools have stronger alumni base contacts than others Ivies, Dukes, Notre Dames of the world as opposed to the Florida's, Towsons and UMasses of the world. So keep running up the scores in High School games and some will try and keep running there to better academic institutions.
Please tell us the Ivy League school your daughter will be attending.
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C'mon chief stop bragging
Completely agree. Some people need to grow up. Maybe if they took the time to actually get to know her they would realize her only interest is in the kids!!!!
So pathetically transparent ,lets run up our points total by getting a lot of assists against an inferior team and hope people think she is a team player because of it. The coach must be afraid to do the right thing out of fear the loud mouth parents will complain because there is no way the coach wants kids running up their stats in games like that .Even funnier the kid has already knows where she is going but has such an ego she needs to feed the monster. Good luck getting on the field in college as the other Long Island kids heading south are better players and teammates at this point.
So pathetically transparent ,lets run up our points total by getting a lot of assists against an inferior team and hope people think she is a team player because of it. The coach must be afraid to do the right thing out of fear the loud mouth parents will complain because there is no way the coach wants kids running up their stats in games like that .Even funnier the kid has already knows where she is going but has such an ego she needs to feed the monster. Good luck getting on the field in college as the other Long Island kids heading south are better players and teammates at this point.
Great point on these kids -plural across many many teams - knowing where they are going and still not being able to do the right thing. These parents and travel lacrosse have created SELFISH MONSTERS. I have paid my 20 grand in so I am deserving and my poor sportsmanship should be accepted. Keep your competitive game my kid can do it and yours can't blah blah blah to yourselves. Bad is bad.
You are all embarrassing yourselves, both sides of the argument, let it go. You are giving Smithtown and LI girls lacrosse a black eye with ridiculous parent behavior, if your sideline antics are bad enough, your ugly anonymous post online are making all of us look bad. I am embarrassed to be stuck in the same apple cart with you cry babies.
You are all embarrassing yourselves, both sides of the argument, let it go. You are giving Smithtown and LI girls lacrosse a black eye with ridiculous parent behavior, if your sideline antics are bad enough, your ugly anonymous post online are making all of us look bad. I am embarrassed to be stuck in the same apple cart with you cry babies.
Too funny an anonymous poster bashing anonymous posts, what exactly do you mean "if your sideline antics are bad enough". Try using comprehensible sentences. It's a legitimate discussion , at what point do these teams cross over into poor sportsmanship . Why do the coaches allow it. My daughters coach in non competitive games places limits on the girls no more than 3 goals and 3 assists for any one girl, if you are up by more than 10 if you have scored you do not score again , etc.
You are all embarrassing yourselves, both sides of the argument, let it go. You are giving Smithtown and LI girls lacrosse a black eye with ridiculous parent behavior, if your sideline antics are bad enough, your ugly anonymous post online are making all of us look bad. I am embarrassed to be stuck in the same apple cart with you cry babies.
Too funny an anonymous poster bashing anonymous posts, what exactly do you mean "if your sideline antics are bad enough". Try using comprehensible sentences. It's a legitimate discussion , at what point do these teams cross over into poor sportsmanship . Why do the coaches allow it. My daughters coach in non competitive games places limits on the girls no more than 3 goals and 3 assists for any one girl, if you are up by more than 10 if you have scored you do not score again , etc.
amen
C'mon chief stop bragging
I am calling B.S. on that is wasn't me!!
smith e has to be one of the dirtiest teams in the league. Folks there is a difference between playing aggressive and dirty, They are flat out dirty. count there total cards. nobody gets more
Mt Sinai is over the top aggressive,borderline dirty.
smith e has to be one of the dirtiest teams in the league. Folks there is a difference between playing aggressive and dirty, They are flat out dirty. count there total cards. nobody gets more
Mt Sinai is over the top aggressive,borderline dirty.
Just play ball and stop complaining! Play hard to win!or else go back to hip hop
smith e has to be one of the dirtiest teams in the league. Folks there is a difference between playing aggressive and dirty, They are flat out dirty. count there total cards. nobody gets more
Mt Sinai is over the top aggressive,borderline dirty.
Just play ball and stop complaining! Play hard to win!or else go back to hip hop
Pathetic comment. Some of these players are the way they are thanks to their coaches and parents. Teams running up scores and not looking to their benches for substitution, parents yelling at their girls to be more physical on the field when does it end. I saw scores this week that were ridiculous and my daughter plays for a team that suffered one of those deep score losses to a top team in the county. Sadly it happens we are building a program and they focuses on scoring and not subbing...one day some of these aggressive score running up teams will have it back in their faces bc they focus on 12 and the others on the bench don't get acknowledged...section xi in my opinion needs to do more then run the clock when the score is 10 more then another they should force a coach to play their bench and pull off starters. And as far as aggression goes I thought after a certain number of cards there is a punishment. My daughter is an 8th grader I'm not even thinking about college like some of you I just want her to be able to play in a game where the other coach cares enough to make it fair after they are up by 10
These things happen in all sport and are unfortunate.Mercy rules should be invoked at some point.There are mercy rules in softball,wresting has the technical fall,maybe one day the 15 goal differential in lax will end a game.
In reguards to aggressive play, players who are club players play a college style of lacrosse.Its not dirty , its the way it is.The most aggressive kids draw fouls in all sport,the rules are there to protect and it is up to the official to control the contest.
Power rated divisions are supposed to protect the lower seeded teams and for the most part do,however in girls lacrosse there aren't enough teams and the bottom of the division still draws the mid to upper middle.At times there are mismatches.Unfortunate situation.
I hope everyone has a great HS and club experience this year.Try to stay in the positive folks.
smith e has to be one of the dirtiest teams in the league. Folks there is a difference between playing aggressive and dirty, They are flat out dirty. count there total cards. nobody gets more
Mt Sinai is over the top aggressive,borderline dirty.
Agree 100%. It's out of control. When the game is essentially over and you have girls taking tomahawk swings at girls heads it's an issue. I hold their coaches responsible first and the refs second.
These things happen in all sport and are unfortunate.Mercy rules should be invoked at some point.There are mercy rules in softball,wresting has the technical fall,maybe one day the 15 goal differential in lax will end a game.
In reguards to aggressive play, players who are club players play a college style of lacrosse.Its not dirty , its the way it is.The most aggressive kids draw fouls in all sport,the rules are there to protect and it is up to the official to control the contest.
Power rated divisions are supposed to protect the lower seeded teams and for the most part do,however in girls lacrosse there aren't enough teams and the bottom of the division still draws the mid to upper middle.At times there are mismatches.Unfortunate situation.
I hope everyone has a great HS and club experience this year.Try to stay in the positive folks.
Smart Post. All the complainers should read this, it may help them understand what is going on, and stop blaming the exceptional players for being.....exceptional!
These things happen in all sport and are unfortunate.Mercy rules should be invoked at some point.There are mercy rules in softball,wresting has the technical fall,maybe one day the 15 goal differential in lax will end a game.
In reguards to aggressive play, players who are club players play a college style of lacrosse.Its not dirty , its the way it is.The most aggressive kids draw fouls in all sport,the rules are there to protect and it is up to the official to control the contest.
Power rated divisions are supposed to protect the lower seeded teams and for the most part do,however in girls lacrosse there aren't enough teams and the bottom of the division still draws the mid to upper middle.At times there are mismatches.Unfortunate situation.
I hope everyone has a great HS and club experience this year.Try to stay in the positive folks.
Good Post but a Mercy Rule is put in place to control idiot coaches and selfish players. Earlier posters have said it, in the travel big bucks lacrosse world of today nobody blinks at 15+ goal margins. They immediately ask who scored like when you win by 20 that matters? Shouldn't need mercy rules when common sense should prevail especially in school sports. Kill each other over the summer this way you can feel like you are getting your monies worth
These things happen in all sport and are unfortunate.Mercy rules should be invoked at some point.There are mercy rules in softball,wresting has the technical fall,maybe one day the 15 goal differential in lax will end a game.
In reguards to aggressive play, players who are club players play a college style of lacrosse.Its not dirty , its the way it is.The most aggressive kids draw fouls in all sport,the rules are there to protect and it is up to the official to control the contest.
Power rated divisions are supposed to protect the lower seeded teams and for the most part do,however in girls lacrosse there aren't enough teams and the bottom of the division still draws the mid to upper middle.At times there are mismatches.Unfortunate situation.
I hope everyone has a great HS and club experience this year.Try to stay in the positive folks.
Smart Post. All the complainers should read this, it may help them understand what is going on, and stop blaming the exceptional players for being.....exceptional!
You really are a moron , that post in no way supported ball hog kids running up their stats against inferior teams.Exceptional , get over yourself mom.
I have witnessed so much good out there that these bad situations are the exception and not the rule. I have witnessed officials and timers turning score-boards off and using running time .I have seen winter and club games where jerseys were exchanged and teams were balanced for a quality game. I have seen HS games handled in similar ways....I agree that common sense has to prevail but without leadership stepping in and fostering that approach it will not improve. ADs need to attend games and make sure they have a feel for whats going on. They are accountable for making sure a coach can handle the good and the bad of those HS situations. Over the years I have often felt the game against an inferior opponent is a lose=lose situation for everyone. If schools have a plan going into those contests we can make it a win-win situation. HS sports teach more than just winning. Empathy and compassion have a place as well and I have seen it first hand. Look to the leadership to help insure that future situations are handled more appropriately. ADs should have more hands on these situations at the HS and middle school level.
These ridiculous conversations would never happen on the boys varsity thread! The high scoring boys just get their pics in Newsday and calls will roll in from college coaches!
Stop babying these girls and let them play and score.
I suspect you are upset and jealous because your daughter is not scoring
" Over the years I have often felt the game against an inferior opponent is a lose=lose situation for everyone. If schools have a plan going into those contests we can make it a win-win situation."
Exactly. Some games are just not going to be competitive but there are ways of making it something other than a chance for someone to blow up her numbers. Have the winning team start using their non-dominant hand, for instance. Switch up the offense and the defense. Clear the bench.
These ridiculous conversations would never happen on the boys varsity thread! The high scoring boys just get their pics in Newsday and calls will roll in from college coaches!
Stop babying these girls and let them play and score.
I suspect you are upset and jealous because your daughter is not scoring
Thanks Carol for your quote!!
These ridiculous conversations would never happen on the boys varsity thread! The high scoring boys just get their pics in Newsday and calls will roll in from college coaches!
Stop babying these girls and let them play and score.
I suspect you are upset and jealous because your daughter is not scoring
Does not happen to the same extent in boys lax and when it does you usually hear the " put him down" calls from the losing team parents.
At game vs Huntington the girls were reckless and the coach was constantly screaming at the girls and the refs.
Just a quick heads up to everyone that the rules changed this year.There is absolutely no horizontal stick-play in HS girls lacrosse. This is going to lead to and has already led to a lot of whistles.Players ,coaches and spectators are going to be frustrated. Lets hope for good weather this week because lax is better in the sunshine...have a great week folks and try to accentuate the positive..Life is too short.
If girls and coaches play team first with good sportsmanship there can't be anything but positive posts. Sadly in todays selfish play environment I am not holding my breath. Good luck to all!
Just a quick heads up to everyone that the rules changed this year.There is absolutely no horizontal stick-play in HS girls lacrosse. This is going to lead to and has already led to a lot of whistles.Players ,coaches and spectators are going to be frustrated. Lets hope for good weather this week because lax is better in the sunshine...have a great week folks and try to accentuate the positive..Life is too short.
What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?
No it is on the defensive side any contact to the body when the cross is below 10 oclock 2 oclock will be considered horizontal and the defense will be called as a major foul.
Just a quick heads up to everyone that the rules changed this year.There is absolutely no horizontal stick-play in HS girls lacrosse. This is going to lead to and has already led to a lot of whistles.Players ,coaches and spectators are going to be frustrated. Lets hope for good weather this week because lax is better in the sunshine...have a great week folks and try to accentuate the positive..Life is too short.
What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?
LOL , talking about defensively , cannot turn your stick horizontal at all when playing defense. I think it's a bad rule change , it's hard enough to play defense in girls lacrosse as is.
Just a quick heads up to everyone that the rules changed this year.There is absolutely no horizontal stick-play in HS girls lacrosse. This is going to lead to and has already led to a lot of whistles.Players ,coaches and spectators are going to be frustrated. Lets hope for good weather this week because lax is better in the sunshine...have a great week folks and try to accentuate the positive..Life is too short.
What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?
It is concerning making stick to body contact while the stick is being held in a horizontal position. Officials are being instructed to strictly enforce this during the season.
Just a quick heads up to everyone that the rules changed this year.There is absolutely no horizontal stick-play in HS girls lacrosse. This is going to lead to and has already led to a lot of whistles.Players ,coaches and spectators are going to be frustrated. Lets hope for good weather this week because lax is better in the sunshine...have a great week folks and try to accentuate the positive..Life is too short.
What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?
It is concerning making stick to body contact while the stick is being held in a horizontal position. Officials are being instructed to strictly enforce this during the season.
The way it was explained to me is think crosschecking in hockey. Once the stick drops down below 10 and 4 creating defensive width it will be called. they want that stick straight up and down more in a wind shield wiper fashion. IS THIS CORRECT?
Just a quick heads up to everyone that the rules changed this year.There is absolutely no horizontal stick-play in HS girls lacrosse. This is going to lead to and has already led to a lot of whistles.Players ,coaches and spectators are going to be frustrated. Lets hope for good weather this week because lax is better in the sunshine...have a great week folks and try to accentuate the positive..Life is too short.
What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?
It is concerning making stick to body contact while the stick is being held in a horizontal position. Officials are being instructed to strictly enforce this during the season.
The way it was explained to me is think crosschecking in hockey. Once the stick drops down below 10 and 4 creating defensive width it will be called. they want that stick straight up and down more in a wind shield wiper fashion. IS THIS CORRECT?
Of course if you do that they will call you for having your stick in the sphere.
Just a quick heads up to everyone that the rules changed this year.There is absolutely no horizontal stick-play in HS girls lacrosse. This is going to lead to and has already led to a lot of whistles.Players ,coaches and spectators are going to be frustrated. Lets hope for good weather this week because lax is better in the sunshine...have a great week folks and try to accentuate the positive..Life is too short.
What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?
It is concerning making stick to body contact while the stick is being held in a horizontal position. Officials are being instructed to strictly enforce this during the season.
The way it was explained to me is think crosschecking in hockey. Once the stick drops down below 10 and 4 creating defensive width it will be called. they want that stick straight up and down more in a wind shield wiper fashion. IS THIS CORRECT?
Of course if you do that they will call you for having your stick in the sphere.
The game with unlimited whistles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just a quick heads up to everyone that the rules changed this year.There is absolutely no horizontal stick-play in HS girls lacrosse. This is going to lead to and has already led to a lot of whistles.Players ,coaches and spectators are going to be frustrated. Lets hope for good weather this week because lax is better in the sunshine...have a great week folks and try to accentuate the positive..Life is too short.
What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?
It is concerning making stick to body contact while the stick is being held in a horizontal position. Officials are being instructed to strictly enforce this during the season.
Why, because they magically decided that this was the problem with girls lax? weird
Just a quick heads up to everyone that the rules changed this year.There is absolutely no horizontal stick-play in HS girls lacrosse. This is going to lead to and has already led to a lot of whistles.Players ,coaches and spectators are going to be frustrated. Lets hope for good weather this week because lax is better in the sunshine...have a great week folks and try to accentuate the positive..Life is too short.
What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?
It is concerning making stick to body contact while the stick is being held in a horizontal position. Officials are being instructed to strictly enforce this during the season.
Why, because they magically decided that this was the problem with girls lax? weird
Rules committee made the rule interpretation changes to minimize HS girls w/ arm, shoulder and back injuries due to rough stick play on D and in the midfield.
These things happen in all sport and are unfortunate.Mercy rules should be invoked at some point.There are mercy rules in softball,wresting has the technical fall,maybe one day the 15 goal differential in lax will end a game.
In reguards to aggressive play, players who are club players play a college style of lacrosse.Its not dirty , its the way it is.The most aggressive kids draw fouls in all sport,the rules are there to protect and it is up to the official to control the contest.
Power rated divisions are supposed to protect the lower seeded teams and for the most part do,however in girls lacrosse there aren't enough teams and the bottom of the division still draws the mid to upper middle.At times there are mismatches.Unfortunate situation.
I hope everyone has a great HS and club experience this year.Try to stay in the positive folks.
Smart Post. All the complainers should read this, it may help them understand what is going on, and stop blaming the exceptional players for being.....exceptional!
You really are a moron , that post in no way supported ball hog kids running up their stats against inferior teams.Exceptional , get over yourself mom.
I agree ball hogs and coaches who create them should not be tolerated in games that have a more then 10 goal lead. Some of us pay big bucks during the summer to play competive lax and some of us don't. Should the girl who doesn't be punished and demoralized by another team and their coach just so these superstars can have higher stats. And what's even more demoralizing is when another team is ahead of your team and that coach is yelling and screaming and carrying on as if they are losing...it needs to end.
Just a quick heads up to everyone that the rules changed this year.There is absolutely no horizontal stick-play in HS girls lacrosse. This is going to lead to and has already led to a lot of whistles.Players ,coaches and spectators are going to be frustrated. Lets hope for good weather this week because lax is better in the sunshine...have a great week folks and try to accentuate the positive..Life is too short.
What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?
It is concerning making stick to body contact while the stick is being held in a horizontal position. Officials are being instructed to strictly enforce this during the season.
Why, because they magically decided that this was the problem with girls lax? weird
What is weird is that you have no idea what the difference between girls and boys lacrosse is supposed to be and thus your ignorant comments. Horizontal stick position while defending is the direct result of all knowing lacrosse dads who teach their girls to play defense like a boy. Obviously you have never seen the welts and black and blues on a girls arm from receiving cross checks. Not overly attractive. Defense can be played, and played effectively with the stick vertically, feet movement, and well timed slides. The game does not need to be played out of control but it is because girls are taught incorrectly at an early age.
These things happen in all sport and are unfortunate.Mercy rules should be invoked at some point.There are mercy rules in softball,wresting has the technical fall,maybe one day the 15 goal differential in lax will end a game.
In reguards to aggressive play, players who are club players play a college style of lacrosse.Its not dirty , its the way it is.The most aggressive kids draw fouls in all sport,the rules are there to protect and it is up to the official to control the contest.
Power rated divisions are supposed to protect the lower seeded teams and for the most part do,however in girls lacrosse there aren't enough teams and the bottom of the division still draws the mid to upper middle.At times there are mismatches.Unfortunate situation.
I hope everyone has a great HS and club experience this year.Try to stay in the positive folks.
Smart Post. All the complainers should read this, it may help them understand what is going on, and stop blaming the exceptional players for being.....exceptional!
You really are a moron , that post in no way supported ball hog kids running up their stats against inferior teams.Exceptional , get over yourself mom.
I agree ball hogs and coaches who create them should not be tolerated in games that have a more then 10 goal lead. Some of us pay big bucks during the summer to play competive lax and some of us don't. Should the girl who doesn't be punished and demoralized by another team and their coach just so these superstars can have higher stats. And what's even more demoralizing is when another team is ahead of your team and that coach is yelling and screaming and carrying on as if they are losing...it needs to end.
My little Shannon is that good and should be allowed to score as many as she can get.I love sharing sidelines with people like this.
My little Shannon is that good and should be allowed to score as many as she can get.I love sharing sidelines with people like this.
I Hope " little Shannon is fictional " if not it is very disturbing that we as adults,(an assumption)have to pick on 14 yr old children to make our points. As for blowouts and ball hogs that should and must be controlled by the coach. If the girl is good enough to score 11 points, what the [lacrosse] is she even doing on the field long enough to score like that. Anyone associated with games like this know the result on the bus ride over. why let it get to 19-0 final or even 10-0 in the first. Coaches,parents and players need to show a little more respect for their opponents in all competition.
I think that there are too many girls playing varsity lacrosse that should not be. You people are blaming girls for being too good! This is rediculus. Some of us have invested years of money and time to get our girls to this position. We are hoping for college scholarships. In college it will be even more intense. As Varsity players, Stats matter. If you have to complain about girls scoring too many points, or being too rough, your daughter should not play. Find a non-contact sport like swimming and try not to complain if your daughter gets splashed!
These things happen in all sport and are unfortunate.Mercy rules should be invoked at some point.There are mercy rules in softball,wresting has the technical fall,maybe one day the 15 goal differential in lax will end a game.
In reguards to aggressive play, players who are club players play a college style of lacrosse.Its not dirty , its the way it is.The most aggressive kids draw fouls in all sport,the rules are there to protect and it is up to the official to control the contest.
Power rated divisions are supposed to protect the lower seeded teams and for the most part do,however in girls lacrosse there aren't enough teams and the bottom of the division still draws the mid to upper middle.At times there are mismatches.Unfortunate situation.
I hope everyone has a great HS and club experience this year.Try to stay in the positive folks.
Smart Post. All the complainers should read this, it may help them understand what is going on, and stop blaming the exceptional players for being.....exceptional!
You really are a moron , that post in no way supported ball hog kids running up their stats against inferior teams.Exceptional , get over yourself mom.
I agree ball hogs and coaches who create them should not be tolerated in games that have a more then 10 goal lead. Some of us pay big bucks during the summer to play competive lax and some of us don't. Should the girl who doesn't be punished and demoralized by another team and their coach just so these superstars can have higher stats. And what's even more demoralizing is when another team is ahead of your team and that coach is yelling and screaming and carrying on as if they are losing...it needs to end.
My little Shannon is that good and should be allowed to score as many as she can get.I love sharing sidelines with people like this.
I was under the impression that these posts had to be approved by a moderator. If that's the case HELLO ! ....... IS ANYONE HOME.? You come on here and verbally assault a 14 year old young lady. You should be very proud of yourself.
My little Shannon is that good and should be allowed to score as many as she can get.I love sharing sidelines with people like this.
I Hope " little Shannon is fictional " if not it is very disturbing that we as adults,(an assumption)have to pick on 14 yr old children to make our points. As for blowouts and ball hogs that should and must be controlled by the coach. If the girl is good enough to score 11 points, what the [lacrosse] is she even doing on the field long enough to score like that. Anyone associated with games like this know the result on the bus ride over. why let it get to 19-0 final or even 10-0 in the first. Coaches,parents and players need to show a little more respect for their opponents in all competition.
In Nassau league play is based on the skill level of teams . All of the best teams without regard to school size play each other. I would think this set up would help clear up the blowout wins by 15 or more. Middle level teams play schools of equal skill and so on. However when the playoffs start everyone has to play in their correct division based upon the schools student population.
These things happen in all sport and are unfortunate.Mercy rules should be invoked at some point.There are mercy rules in softball,wresting has the technical fall,maybe one day the 15 goal differential in lax will end a game.
In reguards to aggressive play, players who are club players play a college style of lacrosse.Its not dirty , its the way it is.The most aggressive kids draw fouls in all sport,the rules are there to protect and it is up to the official to control the contest.
Power rated divisions are supposed to protect the lower seeded teams and for the most part do,however in girls lacrosse there aren't enough teams and the bottom of the division still draws the mid to upper middle.At times there are mismatches.Unfortunate situation.
I hope everyone has a great HS and club experience this year.Try to stay in the positive folks.
Smart Post. All the complainers should read this, it may help them understand what is going on, and stop blaming the exceptional players for being.....exceptional!
You really are a moron , that post in no way supported ball hog kids running up their stats against inferior teams.Exceptional , get over yourself mom.
I agree ball hogs and coaches who create them should not be tolerated in games that have a more then 10 goal lead. Some of us pay big bucks during the summer to play competive lax and some of us don't. Should the girl who doesn't be punished and demoralized by another team and their coach just so these superstars can have higher stats. And what's even more demoralizing is when another team is ahead of your team and that coach is yelling and screaming and carrying on as if they are losing...it needs to end.
My little Shannon is that good and should be allowed to score as many as she can get.I love sharing sidelines with people like this.
I was under the impression that these posts had to be approved by a moderator. If that's the case HELLO ! ....... IS ANYONE HOME.? You come on here and verbally assault a 14 year old young lady. You should be very proud of yourself.
Relax Shannon is made up name like mia is in soccer
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What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?[/quote]
It is concerning making stick to body contact while the stick is being held in a horizontal position. Officials are being instructed to strictly enforce this during the season. [/quote]
Why, because they magically decided that this was the problem with girls lax? weird [/quote]
What is weird is that you have no idea what the difference between girls and boys lacrosse is supposed to be and thus your ignorant comments. Horizontal stick position while defending is the direct result of all knowing lacrosse dads who teach their girls to play defense like a boy. Obviously you have never seen the welts and black and blues on a girls arm from receiving cross checks. Not overly attractive. Defense can be played, and played effectively with the stick vertically, feet movement, and well timed slides. The game does not need to be played out of control but it is because girls are taught incorrectly at an early age. [/quote]
Whats amazing is what a moron you are. The attractiveness of bruises has no part in the discussion.Teaching them wrong at an early age , its a new rule this year so you have issues with kids playing according to the rules in the past? Go watch a college game , all the defenders play with their sticks horizontal at times but of course your daughter has better technique than the best collegiate defenders in the nation.Let me know what team your daughter plays defense for so I can watch a kid who has been trained by the master.
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What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?
It is concerning making stick to body contact while the stick is being held in a horizontal position. Officials are being instructed to strictly enforce this during the season. [/quote]
Why, because they magically decided that this was the problem with girls lax? weird [/quote]
What is weird is that you have no idea what the difference between girls and boys lacrosse is supposed to be and thus your ignorant comments. Horizontal stick position while defending is the direct result of all knowing lacrosse dads who teach their girls to play defense like a boy. Obviously you have never seen the welts and black and blues on a girls arm from receiving cross checks. Not overly attractive. Defense can be played, and played effectively with the stick vertically, feet movement, and well timed slides. The game does not need to be played out of control but it is because girls are taught incorrectly at an early age. [/quote]
Whats amazing is what a moron you are. The attractiveness of bruises has no part in the discussion.Teaching them wrong at an early age , its a new rule this year so you have issues with kids playing according to the rules in the past? Go watch a college game , all the defenders play with their sticks horizontal at times but of course your daughter has better technique than the best collegiate defenders in the nation.Let me know what team your daughter plays defense for so I can watch a kid who has been trained by the master. [/quote]
First, you are 100% correct. College kids are taught and play with the stick horizontal because it is not a major foul at that level. The 2014 rule changes are specific to High School and Youth Leagues. The link below should be of use to you. Try reading it then opine on the topic.
http://www.uslacrosse.org/rules/girls-rules.aspx Most likely this rule will eventually be adopted at the collegiate level as well but I have no facts to back that up. It is just my opinion.
Next, you are also 100% correct that bruises have nothing to do with the discusssion but player safety has everything to do with the discussion. The bruises are the direct result of players using the crosse to cross-check. You eliminate the horizontal crosse as a way to defend and enforce (and teach) the rules as written then players are less likely to be injured.
Lastly, my daughters (who play attack and defense) have had to change their technique to defend because of the rule change. So no, their technique is not better than the best collegiate players but it is different based on the rules with which they play. It is being taught to them at the high school and club level. It started this winter and continues through the spring/summer.
I guess I will know who your daughter is because she will be the one standing 4 meters behind my daughter as she gets ready to take a free position shot.
Moron?!?! That's funny...
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What does that even mean? You cab't run with one hand on the stick and pump down field with the other? We played 4 games and the refs were fine w it, if that's what you mean?
It is concerning making stick to body contact while the stick is being held in a horizontal position. Officials are being instructed to strictly enforce this during the season.
Why, because they magically decided that this was the problem with girls lax? weird [/quote]
What is weird is that you have no idea what the difference between girls and boys lacrosse is supposed to be and thus your ignorant comments. Horizontal stick position while defending is the direct result of all knowing lacrosse dads who teach their girls to play defense like a boy. Obviously you have never seen the welts and black and blues on a girls arm from receiving cross checks. Not overly attractive. Defense can be played, and played effectively with the stick vertically, feet movement, and well timed slides. The game does not need to be played out of control but it is because girls are taught incorrectly at an early age. [/quote]
Whats amazing is what a moron you are. The attractiveness of bruises has no part in the discussion.Teaching them wrong at an early age , its a new rule this year so you have issues with kids playing according to the rules in the past? Go watch a college game , all the defenders play with their sticks horizontal at times but of course your daughter has better technique than the best collegiate defenders in the nation.Let me know what team your daughter plays defense for so I can watch a kid who has been trained by the master. [/quote]
First, you are 100% correct. College kids are taught and play with the stick horizontal because it is not a major foul at that level. The 2014 rule changes are specific to High School and Youth Leagues. The link below should be of use to you. Try reading it then opine on the topic.
http://www.uslacrosse.org/rules/girls-rules.aspx Most likely this rule will eventually be adopted at the collegiate level as well but I have no facts to back that up. It is just my opinion.
Next, you are also 100% correct that bruises have nothing to do with the discusssion but player safety has everything to do with the discussion. The bruises are the direct result of players using the crosse to cross-check. You eliminate the horizontal crosse as a way to defend and enforce (and teach) the rules as written then players are less likely to be injured.
Lastly, my daughters (who play attack and defense) have had to change their technique to defend because of the rule change. So no, their technique is not better than the best collegiate players but it is different based on the rules with which they play. It is being taught to them at the high school and club level. It started this winter and continues through the spring/summer.
I guess I will know who your daughter is because she will be the one standing 4 meters behind my daughter as she gets ready to take a free position shot.
Moron?!?! That's funny...
Again you show what a moron you are, not a major foul , nor is it a minor foul at the collegiate level to play defense with your stick horizontal. The fact that your daughter has needed to change her defensive technique due to the new rules shows you must have been one of those all knowing lacrosse dads.The only correct thing you said was you have no facts to back anything up. Not worried about your daughter getting a free position shot as I am sure your expertise have resulted in many an easy save by countless goalies. Sorry your poor defenseless daughter has been cross checked , which has always been illegal, by those poorly coached defenders.
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I think that there are too many girls playing varsity lacrosse that should not be. You people are blaming girls for being too good! This is rediculus. Some of us have invested years of money and time to get our girls to this position. We are hoping for college scholarships. In college it will be even more intense. As Varsity players, Stats matter. If you have to complain about girls scoring too many points, or being too rough, your daughter should not play. Find a non-contact sport like swimming and try not to complain if your daughter gets splashed!
AMEN!
Whatever dude. This discussion is going no where. My daughters have been taught by my wife and her friends who were All-Americans in college. Positive role models who understand how the game is to be played and taught. You will probably call them morons as well but I would expect nothing less at this point.
I think that there are too many girls playing varsity lacrosse that should not be. You people are blaming girls for being too good! This is rediculus. Some of us have invested years of money and time to get our girls to this position. We are hoping for college scholarships. In college it will be even more intense. As Varsity players, Stats matter. If you have to complain about girls scoring too many points, or being too rough, your daughter should not play. Find a non-contact sport like swimming and try not to complain if your daughter gets splashed!
AMEN!
Every other sport seems to be able to be accepting and inclusive. Only travel lacrosse parents drive that wedge between players of different abilities telling everyone else that if they can't keep up to find another sport. My daughters school basketball team with some aau players, no issue. Softball with some travel kids, no issue. Premier soccer players, no issue. Good sportsmanship all around. Only travel lacrosse parents try to justify bad behavior, selfish play and running up scores
Oh stop... You all sound ridiculous. If your kid isn't good too bad. The kids that excel and are top p,ayers have worked hard and trained for years..jealousy shows its ugly face.
I think that there are too many girls playing varsity lacrosse that should not be. You people are blaming girls for being too good! This is rediculus. Some of us have invested years of money and time to get our girls to this position. We are hoping for college scholarships. In college it will be even more intense. As Varsity players, Stats matter. If you have to complain about girls scoring too many points, or being too rough, your daughter should not play. Find a non-contact sport like swimming and try not to complain if your daughter gets splashed!
USL clearly states that girls lacrosse is a non contact sport.
I think that there are too many girls playing varsity lacrosse that should not be. You people are blaming girls for being too good! This is rediculus. Some of us have invested years of money and time to get our girls to this position. We are hoping for college scholarships. In college it will be even more intense. As Varsity players, Stats matter. If you have to complain about girls scoring too many points, or being too rough, your daughter should not play. Find a non-contact sport like swimming and try not to complain if your daughter gets splashed!
AMEN!
Every other sport seems to be able to be accepting and inclusive. Only travel lacrosse parents drive that wedge between players of different abilities telling everyone else that if they can't keep up to find another sport. My daughters school basketball team with some aau players, no issue. Softball with some travel kids, no issue. Premier soccer players, no issue. Good sportsmanship all around. Only travel lacrosse parents try to justify bad behavior, selfish play and running up scores
Then your lucky with the teams you have found in other sports because I have found the same exact thing in basketball and soccer. We have been on both sides of the argument and I have no problem at all with kids dominating one sport or another, good for them.
Every other sport seems to be able to be accepting and inclusive. Only travel lacrosse parents drive that wedge between players of different abilities telling everyone else that if they can't keep up to find another sport. My daughters school basketball team with some aau players, no issue. Softball with some travel kids, no issue. Premier soccer players, no issue. Good sportsmanship all around. Only travel lacrosse parents try to justify bad behavior, selfish play and running up scores
Then your lucky with the teams you have found in other sports because I have found the same exact thing in basketball and soccer. We have been on both sides of the argument and I have no problem at all with kids dominating one sport or another, good for them.
I think is it's not so much the lacrosse parents but the division breakouts. In soccer and basketball there are leagues with 8 or so teams in each, and these generally more closely aligned in ability so the chances of a blowout are lessened. I'd much rather see lacrosse ditch the 2 division grouping with its wildly disparate teams and have league play. I've been told that lacrosse groups and schedules as it does because there are fewer teams than the other sports but IDK, that seems less and less valid as the lacrosse community grows.
Whatever dude. This discussion is going no where. My daughters have been taught by my wife and her friends who were All-Americans in college. Positive role models who understand how the game is to be played and taught. You will probably call them morons as well but I would expect nothing less at this point.
Now I get it,when your superstar wife and her "all American friends" have been involved in coaching a kid defense its easy for that kid but for all the other kids out there its not so easy.All that was said is playing defense in girls lacrosse is not easy , the rules and the way officials call the game make playing defense difficult at best.Most who have watched the game realize this much the way playing defense in the NFL has become more difficult.The officials need to start calling more charges etc., and this comes from a parent who has an attack player as a daughter.
Every other sport seems to be able to be accepting and inclusive. Only travel lacrosse parents drive that wedge between players of different abilities telling everyone else that if they can't keep up to find another sport. My daughters school basketball team with some aau players, no issue. Softball with some travel kids, no issue. Premier soccer players, no issue. Good sportsmanship all around. Only travel lacrosse parents try to justify bad behavior, selfish play and running up scores
Then your lucky with the teams you have found in other sports because I have found the same exact thing in basketball and soccer. We have been on both sides of the argument and I have no problem at all with kids dominating one sport or another, good for them.
I think is it's not so much the lacrosse parents but the division breakouts. In soccer and basketball there are leagues with 8 or so teams in each, and these generally more closely aligned in ability so the chances of a blowout are lessened. I'd much rather see lacrosse ditch the 2 division grouping with its wildly disparate teams and have league play. I've been told that lacrosse groups and schedules as it does because there are fewer teams than the other sports but IDK, that seems less and less valid as the lacrosse community grows.
In our town kids are quiting PAL in droves. We had a strong program and now are struggling at almost every grade. Only travel is growing by leaps and bounds and new travel clubs are popping up weekly. Lots of money to be made. If you arent willing to play all summer and write big checks you are being left behind. Still need 20 girls or so for teams coaches need to remember that.
What is weird is that you have no idea what the difference between girls and boys lacrosse is supposed to be and thus your ignorant comments. Horizontal stick position while defending is the direct result of all knowing lacrosse dads who teach their girls to play defense like a boy. Obviously you have never seen the welts and black and blues on a girls arm from receiving cross checks. Not overly attractive. Defense can be played, and played effectively with the stick vertically, feet movement, and well timed slides. The game does not need to be played out of control but it is because girls are taught incorrectly at an early age. [/quote]
What an arrogant toolbag.
Hey idiot, soccer is the biggest problem between sports. Why is spring soccer mandatory for 8, 9 and 10 yr olds.
Every other sport seems to be able to be accepting and inclusive. Only travel lacrosse parents drive that wedge between players of different abilities telling everyone else that if they can't keep up to find another sport. My daughters school basketball team with some aau players, no issue. Softball with some travel kids, no issue. Premier soccer players, no issue. Good sportsmanship all around. Only travel lacrosse parents try to justify bad behavior, selfish play and running up scores
Then your lucky with the teams you have found in other sports because I have found the same exact thing in basketball and soccer. We have been on both sides of the argument and I have no problem at all with kids dominating one sport or another, good for them.
I think is it's not so much the lacrosse parents but the division breakouts. In soccer and basketball there are leagues with 8 or so teams in each, and these generally more closely aligned in ability so the chances of a blowout are lessened. I'd much rather see lacrosse ditch the 2 division grouping with its wildly disparate teams and have league play. I've been told that lacrosse groups and schedules as it does because there are fewer teams than the other sports but IDK, that seems less and less valid as the lacrosse community grows.
In our town kids are quiting PAL in droves. We had a strong program and now are struggling at almost every grade. Only travel is growing by leaps and bounds and new travel clubs are popping up weekly. Lots of money to be made. If you arent willing to play all summer and write big checks you are being left behind. Still need 20 girls or so for teams coaches need to remember that.
What Parents seem to forget is that PAL helps develop the girls and establish a sense of Community. When these girls who play Travel Only reach High school the team will suffer.
I know I will here about it but PAL is about learning the game and having [b][/b]FUN. They are children they are suppose to enjoy themselves. Travel is more demanding and requires dedication a child can do both. Parents just have to separate the expectations depending on where the child is playing and their abilities. Everyone develops at a different pace.
Every other sport seems to be able to be accepting and inclusive. Only travel lacrosse parents drive that wedge between players of different abilities telling everyone else that if they can't keep up to find another sport. My daughters school basketball team with some aau players, no issue. Softball with some travel kids, no issue. Premier soccer players, no issue. Good sportsmanship all around. Only travel lacrosse parents try to justify bad behavior, selfish play and running up scores
Then your lucky with the teams you have found in other sports because I have found the same exact thing in basketball and soccer. We have been on both sides of the argument and I have no problem at all with kids dominating one sport or another, good for them.
I think is it's not so much the lacrosse parents but the division breakouts. In soccer and basketball there are leagues with 8 or so teams in each, and these generally more closely aligned in ability so the chances of a blowout are lessened. I'd much rather see lacrosse ditch the 2 division grouping with its wildly disparate teams and have league play. I've been told that lacrosse groups and schedules as it does because there are fewer teams than the other sports but IDK, that seems less and less valid as the lacrosse community grows.
In our town kids are quiting PAL in droves. We had a strong program and now are struggling at almost every grade. Only travel is growing by leaps and bounds and new travel clubs are popping up weekly. Lots of money to be made. If you arent willing to play all summer and write big checks you are being left behind. Still need 20 girls or so for teams coaches need to remember that.
The problem with all the travel programs is not all girls are up to travel. As these new programs will find out in a hurry when they play any real tournament. Only 3 or 4 programs from the island can handle themselves at these legit tournaments and that is only the top team or two from the age group. The 5th and 6th team from these clubs don't belong at the tournaments either.Lets face it, all the good varsity programs are driven by club produced talent, period.
[/quote] In our town kids are quiting PAL in droves. We had a strong program and now are struggling at almost every grade. Only travel is growing by leaps and bounds and new travel clubs are popping up weekly. Lots of money to be made. If you arent willing to play all summer and write big checks you are being left behind. Still need 20 girls or so for teams coaches need to remember that. [/quote]
The problem with all the travel programs is not all girls are up to travel. As these new programs will find out in a hurry when they play any real tournament. Only 3 or 4 programs from the island can handle themselves at these legit tournaments and that is only the top team or two from the age group. The 5th and 6th team from these clubs don't belong at the tournaments either.Lets face it, all the good varsity programs are driven by club produced talent, period. [/quote]
THere are more than a handful of Nassau JV teams that have folded or can barely field because of low player numbers. You have the hyper motivated and then the rest who have left the game after not having a great experience. I get the fact that GC probably has 75% of their squad playing club but what about the schools where its only a handful? A storm is brewing
So...Longwood crushes Copaigue 18-0. Let's see if we get the outcry from this debacle that Smithtown East suffered!!!
The HS Girls programs are direct reflections of their Youth PAL programs. The towns that balance their teams and include all levels of players from K-8th grade are the Towns putting quality Varsity and JV teams on the field year in and out. They may lose at the PAL level but when it all comes together at he HS level the winning happens. In my town many of the girls play on travel programs and the town travel teams up till 9th & 10th grade. If the Town youth directors would put more effort into keeping the girls playing together and developing the Town Program which includes having balanced PAL teams the HS program would benefit. The problem is that many PAL coaches are only interested in getting their daughters on Varsity and winning meaningless PAL games.
Hey idiot, soccer is the biggest problem between sports. Why is spring soccer mandatory for 8, 9 and 10 yr olds.
Everything is the problem my kid is playing basketball, lacrosse and soccer this spring. There aren't enough days in the week but at a young age how do you choose one over the other? And everthing is starting by kindergarten or 1st grade trying to lock the kids up
So...Longwood crushes Copaigue 18-0. Let's see if we get the outcry from this debacle that Smithtown East suffered!!!
Isnt the Longwood coach the clown that said they were going to put in 30 against them last year?
Hey idiot, soccer is the biggest problem between sports. Why is spring soccer mandatory for 8, 9 and 10 yr olds.
Everything is the problem my kid is playing basketball, lacrosse and soccer this spring. There aren't enough days in the week but at a young age how do you choose one over the other? And everthing is starting by kindergarten or 1st grade trying to lock the kids up
This the 2014 High School thread. If your daughter is playing varsity lacrosse, she should not be playing those other sports while in season.
In our town kids are quiting PAL in droves. We had a strong program and now are struggling at almost every grade. Only travel is growing by leaps and bounds and new travel clubs are popping up weekly. Lots of money to be made. If you arent willing to play all summer and write big checks you are being left behind. Still need 20 girls or so for teams coaches need to remember that. [/quote]
The problem with all the travel programs is not all girls are up to travel. As these new programs will find out in a hurry when they play any real tournament. Only 3 or 4 programs from the island can handle themselves at these legit tournaments and that is only the top team or two from the age group. The 5th and 6th team from these clubs don't belong at the tournaments either.Lets face it, all the good varsity programs are driven by club produced talent, period. [/quote]
THere are more than a handful of Nassau JV teams that have folded or can barely field because of low player numbers. You have the hyper motivated and then the rest who have left the game after not having a great experience. I get the fact that GC probably has 75% of their squad playing club but what about the schools where its only a handful? A storm is brewing [/quote]
GC kids have to play travel. The PAL program is awful. It's run by one guy and a bunch of self proclaimed board members who only care about advancing their own mediocre kids.
So...Longwood crushes Copaigue 18-0. Let's see if we get the outcry from this debacle that Smithtown East suffered!!!
Go back into your double wide trailer bandana dad, unfortunately your kids have to suffer because of the big mouth MOM's and Dads in Smithtown East stands.
So...Longwood crushes Copaigue 18-0. Let's see if we get the outcry from this debacle that Smithtown East suffered!!!
The difference is no kid appears to have been left in the game to be a stat builder, Longwood did not have a single kid score over 3 goals or 3 assists which makes it seem as if the coach put limits on the kids. Your precious SE team had one kid virtually score as many as the top 2 Longwood kids combined.
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
So...Longwood crushes Copaigue 18-0. Let's see if we get the outcry from this debacle that Smithtown East suffered!!!
The difference is no kid appears to have been left in the game to be a stat builder,.
talk about Stat Builders..the sisters on Islip combined for 23 points in a 19-7 victory over Deer Park.. with one sister accounting for 15 points
What happened to all the whiners claiming that life is unfair?
So...Longwood crushes Copaigue 18-0. Let's see if we get the outcry from this debacle that Smithtown East suffered!!!
The difference is no kid appears to have been left in the game to be a stat builder,.
talk about Stat Builders..the sisters on Islip combined for 23 points in a 19-7 victory over Deer Park.. with one sister accounting for 15 points
Bad is bad, but I am sure the parents took them for ice cream to congratulate them for getting what they think they are entitled to.
you are absolutely correct. but cant watch for every game that girls or teams run up scores. the teams that run up the scores like that are teams that arent that good (weak), just trying to get recognition for beating up a very weak team.
Islip, Longwood, Westhampton, Elwood/john glenn, center moriches, connetquot, Kings park, smith east, bellport, are some of these teams. weak, never won anything, never will, have history of being badddddddddddddddddddddd.
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
Ugh, someone is a douchb**
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
Ugh, someone is a douchb**
where did you get the scores so fast
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
Ugh, someone is a douchb**
Where did you get your scores? Stown east beat Bay Shore, winning goal scored by freshman!! Go Stown!!!
C'mon dad your embarrassing me!
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
Ugh, someone is a douchb**
I think they are predictions.... Off on a few...
where did you get the scores so fast
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
Ugh, someone is a douchb**
where did you get the scores so fast
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
Ugh, someone is a douchb**
where did you get the scores so fast
you are absolutely correct. but cant watch for every game that girls or teams run up scores. the teams that run up the scores like that are teams that arent that good (weak), just trying to get recognition for beating up a very weak team.
Islip, Longwood, Westhampton, Elwood/john glenn, center moriches, connetquot, Kings park, smith east, bellport, are some of these teams. weak, never won anything, never will, have history of being badddddddddddddddddddddd.
Looks like you should get used to the taste of crow! Some of your self described baddddddddddddddd teams had some nice wins yesterday. Go ahead start spinning it!
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
What All Star team does your daughter play for?
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
Ugh, someone is a douchb**
I think they are predictions.... Off on a few...
where did you get the scores so fast
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
Ugh, someone is a douchb**
where did you get the scores so fast
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
Ugh, someone is a douchb**
where did you get the scores so fast
Newsday on line has most of them.
a look at suffolk div I games today
bayshore over smith E by 12.....all smith E has is talk
West islip over smith W by 10.... wi is strong
West bab over Hauppauge by 2..... ?????
northport over hills by 15.... hills weak
E islip over floyd by 15....... floyd weak
sachem E over Sachem N by 10. sach N weak
Ward Melville over Walt Whitman by 15.... Walt Whit bad
mid country over pat med by 8..... mid country weak pat med weaker
commack over longwood by 5...... longwood weak
conetquot over riverhead by 10.....
Missed on Bayshore, West Bab, Middle Country and Commack, and you missed the spread on WI. Who do you like in NCAA Final Four this weekend so I can bet against you?
So...Longwood crushes Copaigue 18-0. Let's see if we get the outcry from this debacle that Smithtown East suffered!!!
The difference is no kid appears to have been left in the game to be a stat builder,.
talk about Stat Builders..the sisters on Islip combined for 23 points in a 19-7 victory over Deer Park.. with one sister accounting for 15 points
Those sisters are complete ball hogs with no shame , not only are they stat builders but ridiculous show boats constantly shooting behind their backs etc., Going to be ugly today when they run it up against a very weak center moriches team, their coach and parents should be so proud.
So...Longwood crushes Copaigue 18-0. Let's see if we get the outcry from this debacle that Smithtown East suffered!!!
The difference is no kid appears to have been left in the game to be a stat builder,.
talk about Stat Builders..the sisters on Islip combined for 23 points in a 19-7 victory over Deer Park.. with one sister accounting for 15 points
Those sisters are complete ball hogs with no shame , not only are they stat builders but ridiculous show boats constantly shooting behind their backs etc., Going to be ugly today when they run it up against a very weak center moriches team, their coach and parents should be so proud.
They also combined for 23 points in a blowout of North Babylon as well. Great coaching!
Also missed on Hauppauge! They beat West Bab....
So...Longwood crushes Copaigue 18-0. Let's see if we get the outcry from this debacle that Smithtown East suffered!!!
The difference is no kid appears to have been left in the game to be a stat builder,.
talk about Stat Builders..the sisters on Islip combined for 23 points in a 19-7 victory over Deer Park.. with one sister accounting for 15 points
What kind of coach allows that? Isn't that demoralizing to the rest of the team?
Those sisters are complete ball hogs with no shame , not only are they stat builders but ridiculous show boats constantly shooting behind their backs etc., Going to be ugly today when they run it up against a very weak center moriches team, their coach and parents should be so proud.
They also combined for 23 points in a blowout of North Babylon as well. Great coaching!
Northport @ Bay Shore bayshore by 5 bayshore rebounds from tough loss
West Babylon @ West Islip west islip by 2 wi to strong for west bab
Middle Country @ East Islip east islip by 10 ei dominates mc
Commack HS @ Hauppauge hauppauge by 10 hauppauge dominates
Connetquot @ H H Hills connetquot by 7 bad team vs terrible team
Lindenhurst @ Smithtown East smith e by 10 smith e might run up the score against real weak lindy,
North Babylon @ Smithtown West smith w by 10 smith w not impressive but north bab baddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
Brentwood @ Riverhead riverhead by 8 oh boy cant wait for brentwood vs copaigue
Has anyone been paying attention to what's going on in Suffolk D2?? Who are the teams to watch out for...any surprises this week other then Rocky Point almost beating Mt. Sinai. What the heck happened there
I like a Florida-UNC Syracuse-Maryland Final 4.....
Can everyone please vote for Kaitlyn Kearns from Wantaugh as the National Guard comeback player of the year.The link is on the website.Show support for one of LIs own.
Nice to see Mt Sinai did some subbing in 2nd half of Comsewogue game.... Mt Sinai 17-1 win. Maybe the last time all season that those girls see the field.
That raises an interesting question....As a sub on a team with depth and obvious top line starters, what is the benefit of staying on the team, especially as a freshman or Sophmore? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to play for JV and possibly play every day, more reps, more exposure, etc!
Particularly at certain positions such as attack, goalie, etc. The only way to get better is to play in games and live action. All too often, I see parents make a stink and accept nothing less than having their kids on the "better" team, yet they don't play. This in no way helps the player better their skills and develop as a player.
That raises an interesting question....As a sub on a team with depth and obvious top line starters, what is the benefit of staying on the team, especially as a freshman or Sophmore? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to play for JV and possibly play every day, more reps, more exposure, etc!
Particularly at certain positions such as attack, goalie, etc. The only way to get better is to play in games and live action. All too often, I see parents make a stink and accept nothing less than having their kids on the "better" team, yet they don't play. This in no way helps the player better their skills and develop as a player.
That line of thinking causes said parent to have to admit to themselves that someone else is better..
That raises an interesting question....As a sub on a team with depth and obvious top line starters, what is the benefit of staying on the team, especially as a freshman or Sophmore? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to play for JV and possibly play every day, more reps, more exposure, etc!
Particularly at certain positions such as attack, goalie, etc. The only way to get better is to play in games and live action. All too often, I see parents make a stink and accept nothing less than having their kids on the "better" team, yet they don't play. This in no way helps the player better their skills and develop as a player.
You make too much sense!
That raises an interesting question....As a sub on a team with depth and obvious top line starters, what is the benefit of staying on the team, especially as a freshman or Sophmore? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to play for JV and possibly play every day, more reps, more exposure, etc!
Particularly at certain positions such as attack, goalie, etc. The only way to get better is to play in games and live action. All too often, I see parents make a stink and accept nothing less than having their kids on the "better" team, yet they don't play. This in no way helps the player better their skills and develop as a player.
All the crazies want to say their kid was a 4 year varsity player, we have people that actually want to be 5 year players coming up from 8th grade even if they don't play. Makes for great personal player resume stuff. No one wants to go to travel practice and be the only 9th or 10th grader not playing varsity GOT TO KEEP UP. If lacrosse keeps driving out the non travel player you will see more and more younger players playing varsity out of a need for bodies.
Bottom line is the player that plays more will improve in skills. That being said, not everyone is at the same starting point. By keeping a player on a team as a spectator from the sidelines, the risk of being surpassed by someone the next year or less skilled or even younger but playing every day is possible as that player gets more exposure and reps. Than what? The player that doesn't play now will never see the field in the future either.
Another way to look at it is if the JV program has a lot of girls on it and except for the few girls who did not make varsity it is not too strong. It may help a player to practice with better players every day then practice and play with a lower level. Just a thought
Has anyone been paying attention to what's going on in Suffolk D2?? Who are the teams to watch out for...any surprises this week other then Rocky Point almost beating Mt. Sinai. What the heck happened there
Mt. Sinai over rated is what happened
Disagree....
There is far less "live" game action and pressure only practicing. You cannot replace real pressure situations in real games. Playing everyday will expose the player to pressure situations and decision making opportunities every game. At the outside chance an opportunity comes up that the player plays on the "better" team, it will most likely be when the score is extremely lopsided one way or the other. No pressure situations. How does that help develop the player?
Playing on the "lower" team will provide challenges and improve the player for the future.
Makes Great sense ,Just be realistic with yourselves if your daughter is on the bubble between Varsity and JV don't push the envelope of having her play Varsity so you can sit in the stands and pound your chest that your daughter is wearing a varsity uniform at a younger age 7/8/9/10th grade such is like the majority of the parents we know that have their kids playing up on the big V and have turned into a total monster , like instances "without their daughter on this team" syndrome becomes unbearable , when they hardly are on the field or there was no other choice but to take that particular player do to a positional drought. You want as much playtime for your daughter as possible in game situations , but keep one thing in mind that 90% of your daughters skill advancement is from practicing not from games which at that time they need to apply what they learned from practicing against resistance . This can all be done at the age appropriate bracket , when they get into the Varsity level chances are they will supercede the ones who been there all along with minimal playtime.
That raises an interesting question....As a sub on a team with depth and obvious top line starters, what is the benefit of staying on the team, especially as a freshman or Sophmore? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to play for JV and possibly play every day, more reps, more exposure, etc!
Particularly at certain positions such as attack, goalie, etc. The only way to get better is to play in games and live action. All too often, I see parents make a stink and accept nothing less than having their kids on the "better" team, yet they don't play. This in no way helps the player better their skills and develop as a player.
That raises an interesting question....As a sub on a team with depth and obvious top line starters, what is the benefit of staying on the team, especially as a freshman or Sophmore? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to play for JV and possibly play every day, more reps, more exposure, etc!
Particularly at certain positions such as attack, goalie, etc. The only way to get better is to play in games and live action. All too often, I see parents make a stink and accept nothing less than having their kids on the "better" team, yet they don't play. This in no way helps the player better their skills and develop as a player.
That line of thinking causes said parent to have to admit to themselves that someone else is better..
That's not always the case because unfortunately in todays lax world politics seem to have more weight than skill set
who cares about D2. and 3 , dont even waste your time
The best is when a 9th grader is called up and then the parents [lacrosse] and moan complaining about their kid not playing. How dare the coach? Doesn't he know my daughter plays on the Super Real Blue YJ team? CR tells me my child is the best! Why do all these seniors have to play? Why do they have senior day? Why are the seniors captains? Doesn't the coach see that my daughter wears YJ gear everyday and not her school colors? How can our coach not fear the bee?
who cares about D2. and 3 , dont even waste your time
Yeah your right.. let me sell y house which is walking distance to the ocean so that I can send my kid to a large school thats in D1..
who cares about D2. and 3 , dont even waste your time
Yeah your right.. let me sell y house which is walking distance to the ocean so that I can send my kid to a large school thats in D1..
Hahaha! Love it. And really dislike the implication the the lower divisions matter less. They matter a great deal to the people in them.
Have a nice weekend folks.
You are a total D bag. Sorry your kid wasn't good enough to make YJ.
Allot of parents actually believe in their daughters imaginary D1 bound world that the reason they are playing up is because the team relies on that specific player , and more so the parents dictate to the coaches on where their daughter should be playing !
That's what we call weak coaching abilities at its best !
Makes Great sense ,Just be realistic with yourselves if your daughter is on the bubble between Varsity and JV don't push the envelope of having her play Varsity so you can sit in the stands and pound your chest that your daughter is wearing a varsity uniform at a younger age 7/8/9/10th grade such is like the majority of the parents we know that have their kids playing up on the big V and have turned into a total monster , like instances "without their daughter on this team" syndrome becomes unbearable , when they hardly are on the field or there was no other choice but to take that particular player do to a positional drought. You want as much playtime for your daughter as possible in game situations , but keep one thing in mind that 90% of your daughters skill advancement is from practicing not from games which at that time they need to apply what they learned from practicing against resistance . This can all be done at the age appropriate bracket , when they get into the Varsity level chances are they will supercede the ones who been there all along with minimal playtime.
That raises an interesting question....As a sub on a team with depth and obvious top line starters, what is the benefit of staying on the team, especially as a freshman or Sophmore? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to play for JV and possibly play every day, more reps, more exposure, etc!
Particularly at certain positions such as attack, goalie, etc. The only way to get better is to play in games and live action. All too often, I see parents make a stink and accept nothing less than having their kids on the "better" team, yet they don't play. This in no way helps the player better their skills and develop as a player.
Those Islip sisters are good kids and very talented lacrosse players. Islip doesn't win a game without them. Shame on you for picking on a couple of high school kids. You and this site suck.
Smithtown E all talk? Well time to eat your words.
That raises an interesting question....As a sub on a team with depth and obvious top line starters, what is the benefit of staying on the team, especially as a freshman or Sophmore? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to play for JV and possibly play every day, more reps, more exposure, etc!
Particularly at certain positions such as attack, goalie, etc. The only way to get better is to play in games and live action. All too often, I see parents make a stink and accept nothing less than having their kids on the "better" team, yet they don't play. This in no way helps the player better their skills and develop as a player.
Maybe I'm naive, but I would never call the AD or coach at my daughters HS in any sport and lobby for her to be on varsity. I've heard stories that this goes on everywhere but don't know what to believe. Anyone?
You are a total D bag. Sorry your kid wasn't good enough to make YJ.
Every kid is good enough to make yj, they have six teams in each age group.
You are a total D bag. Sorry your kid wasn't good enough to make YJ.
EVERYBODY makes the Yellow Jackets the have 5 or 6 teams in some ages!
You are a total D bag. Sorry your kid wasn't good enough to make YJ.
EVERYBODY makes the Yellow Jackets the have 5 or 6 teams in some ages!
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That raises an interesting question....As a sub on a team with depth and obvious top line starters, what is the benefit of staying on the team, especially as a freshman or Sophmore? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to play for JV and possibly play every day, more reps, more exposure, etc!
Particularly at certain positions such as attack, goalie, etc. The only way to get better is to play in games and live action. All too often, I see parents make a stink and accept nothing less than having their kids on the "better" team, yet they don't play. This in no way helps the player better their skills and develop as a player.
Maybe I'm naive, but I would never call the AD or coach at my daughters HS in any sport and lobby for her to be on varsity. I've heard stories that this goes on everywhere but don't know what to believe. Anyone?
Trust me, it happens!!
You are a total D bag. Sorry your kid wasn't good enough to make YJ.
EVERYBODY makes the Yellow Jackets the have 5 or 6 teams in some ages!
Coming up next after this commercial from the Yellow Jackets on BOTC Radio is Pink Floyd's "Money"
I agree, but they do produce, or else they would never be able to field 6 teams. It will be my younger daughters first year on YJ. We chose this team because of their record and reputation of being the best, kind of like choosing 91 or express for boys.
Rocky point ??
That raises an interesting question....As a sub on a team with depth and obvious top line starters, what is the benefit of staying on the team, especially as a freshman or Sophmore? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to play for JV and possibly play every day, more reps, more exposure, etc!
Particularly at certain positions such as attack, goalie, etc. The only way to get better is to play in games and live action. All too often, I see parents make a stink and accept nothing less than having their kids on the "better" team, yet they don't play. This in no way helps the player better their skills and develop as a player.
Maybe I'm naive, but I would never call the AD or coach at my daughters HS in any sport and lobby for her to be on varsity. I've heard stories that this goes on everywhere but don't know what to believe. Anyone?
Trust me, it happens!!
In many towns younger girls are brought up to Varsity so they can scrimage full field. That kid is a practice body nothing more. If your daughter is brought up and starts or is first or second sub in the game then that kid is legit. Every town has girls on both sides. Its the parents that are delusional and its always the coach or AD's fault never the kids talent level.
In many towns younger girls are brought up to Varsity so they can scrimage full field. That kid is a practice body nothing more. If your daughter is brought up and starts or is first or second sub in the game then that kid is legit. Every town has girls on both sides. Its the parents that are delusional and its always the coach or AD's fault never the kids talent level.
You sir are a complete toolbag, please tell me 1 town where they bring kids up to varsity strictly to be a practice player.
I agree, my daughter was not chosen for varsity in 9th grade as she was away at an academic event and was upset that girls in her grade were chosen for varsity of the same level of play as her. mid season she was aproached by varsity coach to move up. I am proud to say her answer to the coach was I will move up to varsity if I get playing time but if you want to fill a bench position i will stay on JV as I like to play not watch. I was told this by JV coach not by my daughter. She is not one of the greats from other school district but loves to play. BTW her high school team has never had a win but she and her team mates never give up. let the girls have fun and enjoy
In many towns younger girls are brought up to Varsity so they can scrimage full field. That kid is a practice body nothing more. If your daughter is brought up and starts or is first or second sub in the game then that kid is legit. Every town has girls on both sides. Its the parents that are delusional and its always the coach or AD's fault never the kids talent level.
You sir are a complete toolbag, please tell me 1 town where they bring kids up to varsity strictly to be a practice player.
Towns do pull up kids to fill out rosters. Kids that would never be pulled up if lacrosse was holding their player numbers. In our town we have way too many 8th graders on JV and 9th graders on varsity. Kids are up due to need not ability
Yellow Jackets varsity had a tough loss to Bayshore today.
I agree, my daughter was not chosen for varsity in 9th grade as she was away at an academic event and was upset that girls in her grade were chosen for varsity of the same level of play as her. mid season she was aproached by varsity coach to move up. I am proud to say her answer to the coach was I will move up to varsity if I get playing time but if you want to fill a bench position i will stay on JV as I like to play not watch. I was told this by JV coach not by my daughter. She is not one of the greats from other school district but loves to play. BTW her high school team has never had a win but she and her team mates never give up. let the girls have fun and enjoy
Her response or yours? Doubt a 9th grader uses terminology like "bench position" unless she has been riding it!
You are a total D bag. Sorry your kid wasn't good enough to make YJ.
EVERYBODY makes the Yellow Jackets the have 5 or 6 teams in some ages!
Coming up next after this commercial from the Yellow Jackets on BOTC Radio is Pink Floyd's "Money"
I agree, but they do produce, or else they would never be able to field 6 teams. It will be my younger daughters first year on YJ. We chose this team because of their record and reputation of being the best, kind of like choosing 91 or express for boys.
In most age groups they field teams that are extremely competitive, those used to be called the blue teams. In order to bamboozle unwary consumers, they dropped the team color codes and ,amed the teams after coaches so that kids on the forth or fifth teams have no idea what team they are on, makes it much easier to get people to comit. So if you chose this club because you were playing for the top team , then you are getting your moneys worth and you are correct that the reputation of being one of the best is correct. The yj, just like the boys clubs you mentioned are cashing in on their top team reputations, especially when you get three four teams out, but who the [lacrosse] even knows what team is what anymore, kinda genius.
In many towns younger girls are brought up to Varsity so they can scrimage full field. That kid is a practice body nothing more. If your daughter is brought up and starts or is first or second sub in the game then that kid is legit. Every town has girls on both sides. Its the parents that are delusional and its always the coach or AD's fault never the kids talent level.
You sir are a complete toolbag, please tell me 1 town where they bring kids up to varsity strictly to be a practice player.
Wow I must have struck a nerve? I guess little Suzie is on Varsity and it hurts too much to accept that she is just a practice body.
In response to the post of 8th gr filling roster based on need
Not ability - are u winning or losing - we have the
Same scenario in our district - 7th and 8th on
Jv - undefeated- I wouldn't say that's based
On need
Yellow Jackets varsity had a tough loss to Bayshore today.
Hilarious!!
In many towns younger girls are brought up to Varsity so they can scrimage full field. That kid is a practice body nothing more. If your daughter is brought up and starts or is first or second sub in the game then that kid is legit. Every town has girls on both sides. Its the parents that are delusional and its always the coach or AD's fault never the kids talent level.
You sir are a complete toolbag, please tell me 1 town where they bring kids up to varsity strictly to be a practice player.
Wow I must have struck a nerve? I guess little Suzie is on Varsity and it hurts too much to accept that she is just a practice body.
Actually in our school district if a kid is going to be moved up it is only done if that kid is expected to get significant playing time ie 50 percent of game or they do not get moved up. If you were even vaguely aware of the recommendations by the state in regard to selection classification that almost all schools have adopted you would know that they expressly forbid teams from moving kids up just to fill out rosters.You seem like one of those cowards that like to try and knock kids , coaches, other parents behind their backs but too much of a wimp to express your concerns directly to them. The funny thing those people who you whine too know what a coward you are.
In response to the post of 8th gr filling roster based on need
Not ability - are u winning or losing - we have the
Same scenario in our district - 7th and 8th on
Jv - undefeated- I wouldn't say that's based
On need
And your competition is....7th and 8th graders also brought up so they are the best in that age group. Good for them.
In many towns younger girls are brought up to Varsity so they can scrimage full field. That kid is a practice body nothing more. If your daughter is brought up and starts or is first or second sub in the game then that kid is legit. Every town has girls on both sides. Its the parents that are delusional and its always the coach or AD's fault never the kids talent level.
You sir are a complete toolbag, please tell me 1 town where they bring kids up to varsity strictly to be a practice player.
Wow I must have struck a nerve? I guess little Suzie is on Varsity and it hurts too much to accept that she is just a practice body.
Actually in our school district if a kid is going to be moved up it is only done if that kid is expected to get significant playing time ie 50 percent of game or they do not get moved up. If you were even vaguely aware of the recommendations by the state in regard to selection classification that almost all schools have adopted you would know that they expressly forbid teams from moving kids up just to fill out rosters.You seem like one of those cowards that like to try and knock kids , coaches, other parents behind their backs but too much of a wimp to express your concerns directly to them. The funny thing those people who you whine too know what a coward you are.
Our district has girls brought up, who barely play. It definitely depends on the school
In many towns younger girls are brought up to Varsity so they can scrimage full field. That kid is a practice body nothing more. If your daughter is brought up and starts or is first or second sub in the game then that kid is legit. Every town has girls on both sides. Its the parents that are delusional and its always the coach or AD's fault never the kids talent level.
You sir are a complete toolbag, please tell me 1 town where they bring kids up to varsity strictly to be a practice player.
Wow I must have struck a nerve? I guess little Suzie is on Varsity and it hurts too much to accept that she is just a practice body.
Actually in our school district if a kid is going to be moved up it is only done if that kid is expected to get significant playing time ie 50 percent of game or they do not get moved up. If you were even vaguely aware of the recommendations by the state in regard to selection classification that almost all schools have adopted you would know that they expressly forbid teams from moving kids up just to fill out rosters.You seem like one of those cowards that like to try and knock kids , coaches, other parents behind their backs but too much of a wimp to express your concerns directly to them. The funny thing those people who you whine too know what a coward you are.
Our district has girls brought up, who barely play. It definitely depends on the school
Every coach will have their own philosophy on this. My daughter was brought up and has played every minute of every game, I know other deserving girls not brought up or limited playing time in other district. Every program will treat this differently.
yeah they are the only ones that care
yellow jackets are walk on club.
You are a total D bag. Sorry your kid wasn't good enough to make YJ.
EVERYBODY makes the Yellow Jackets the have 5 or 6 teams in some ages!
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Still jealous Larry
do you want to live by the ocean or play in a real lacrosse league? cant have both pal. D2 and D3 just dont cut it. stay in your ocean house, and your probably a 4th or 5th team yellow jacket walk on.
In many towns younger girls are brought up to Varsity so they can scrimage full field. That kid is a practice body nothing more. If your daughter is brought up and starts or is first or second sub in the game then that kid is legit. Every town has girls on both sides. Its the parents that are delusional and its always the coach or AD's fault never the kids talent level.
You sir are a complete toolbag, please tell me 1 town where they bring kids up to varsity strictly to be a practice player.
Wow I must have struck a nerve? I guess little Suzie is on Varsity and it hurts too much to accept that she is just a practice body.
Actually in our school district if a kid is going to be moved up it is only done if that kid is expected to get significant playing time ie 50 percent of game or they do not get moved up. If you were even vaguely aware of the recommendations by the state in regard to selection classification that almost all schools have adopted you would know that they expressly forbid teams from moving kids up just to fill out rosters.You seem like one of those cowards that like to try and knock kids , coaches, other parents behind their backs but too much of a wimp to express your concerns directly to them. The funny thing those people who you whine too know what a coward you are.
Wrong... my kid is one of the roster fillers. Not knocking just calling it like I see it.
Says alot about your character that you would have your daughter sit the bench and get no playing time instead of speak up have her play a skill appropriate level and move down.
Anyone go to the Brine tryout today?
And maybe that was his daughter's choice.
Anyone go to the Brine tryout today?
Yes
well how was it? big turnout? competition?
What is your opinion on a good ratio for assists to goals so you aren't deemed a black hole of a ball hog? Seems some leading scorers assist 30% of the time but some are close to single digits.
And maybe that was his daughter's choice.
Yes it was.
What is your opinion on a good ratio for assists to goals so you aren't deemed a black hole of a ball hog? Seems some leading scorers assist 30% of the time but some are close to single digits.
As a coach I want to see it at 50%.
What is your opinion on a good ratio for assists to goals so you aren't deemed a black hole of a ball hog? Seems some leading scorers assist 30% of the time but some are close to single digits.
As a coach I want to see it at 50%.
I would love to see 50% since it is a team sport but we play on a team where everyone has to pass except the chosen one or as you said the black hole. She doesn't think anyone else is capable of scoring so she will do it herself. When she does pass its to just a few girls. The rest run around as decoys.
let me guess, bellport or Islip.
50% are you kdding me. there are scorers and there are feeders depending on your schools style. top goal scorers are at 5% assists, that coach would like to see it, but it never happens. he would also like to see his team win all its games, lol. if he made a comment like that, he probably at the bottom of the pack, if you know what i mean
50% are you kdding me. there are scorers and there are feeders depending on your schools style. top goal scorers are at 5% assists, that coach would like to see it, but it never happens. he would also like to see his team win all its games, lol. if he made a comment like that, he probably at the bottom of the pack, if you know what i mean
Black Holes SUCK THE LIFE OUT OF TEAMS, especially if the team is losing. Only one happy in that scenario is the parents of the "one" because you know, she gotta get hers so she can sign that letter of intent.
picks of the day
H H Hills @ West Babylon HHH weak, west bab by 5
Copiague @ Patchogue-Medford pat med by as many as they want
Center Moriches @ Shoreham WR SWr wakes up beats weak team by 2
EH/BH/PIER @ Matt/Gpt/Shld
Harborfields @ Babylon harborfields - bab superstar out
Islip @ Bayport-Blue Pt BBP to strong by 8
well how was it? big turnout? competition?
It was broken down into 2 groups, 2017's and 2016 and 2015's there was about 80 kids in the group I was watching. Competition was very good ( although I did not see any Elite caliber kids). they expect to cut the list down to about 40 and play a "Pride of LI" game then make final decisions for the Maryland trip.. Overall it was similar to any large tryout... Shuttles, stations 4 V 3, 6 V 5, half field and full field scrimmage.. Typical complaint.. the evaluaters weren't watching but chatting to each other..
What is your opinion on a good ratio for assists to goals so you aren't deemed a black hole of a ball hog? Seems some leading scorers assist 30% of the time but some are close to single digits.
I think 1 assist for every 2 goals is ideal for a "scoring Middie..a feeding attack player would have the numbers reversed.
What is your opinion on a good ratio for assists to goals so you aren't deemed a black hole of a ball hog? Seems some leading scorers assist 30% of the time but some are close to single digits.
Does your team have a dynamic feeder? It is possible to have two players who work very well together, one who plays well off ball and one who looks to feed.
I would like to have one "ball hog" one "feeder" and a bunch of well balanced players who understand the game. Oh yea, a very athletic defense and a decent goalie wouldn't hurt.
What is your opinion on a good ratio for assists to goals so you aren't deemed a black hole of a ball hog? Seems some leading scorers assist 30% of the time but some are close to single digits.
Does your team have a dynamic feeder? It is possible to have two players who work very well together, one who plays well off ball and one who looks to feed.
I would like to have one "ball hog" one "feeder" and a bunch of well balanced players who understand the game. Oh yea, a very athletic defense and a decent goalie wouldn't hurt.
Our balanced players are losing patience with our ball hog. We all get the fact that she is D1 bound, but its painful for everyone else around her both players and parents
Anyone go to the Brine tryout today?
Yes
Brine is a waste of time and money!!! College coaches do not show up like they advertise. And the ones that do are there for the boy. It's like everything else almost every kid makes the team. Long Island picks their team and the rest of the girls go into a pool of players to fill rosters for teams who didn't get enough. My daughter played for LI a few years ago but her friend was on New England...both from Long Island. Don't be fooled into believing it's like under armour bc it's not and it's usually the same time that Under Armour is going on just an FYI...SAVE your $$
well how was it? big turnout? competition?
It was broken down into 2 groups, 2017's and 2016 and 2015's there was about 80 kids in the group I was watching. Competition was very good ( although I did not see any Elite caliber kids). they expect to cut the list down to about 40 and play a "Pride of LI" game then make final decisions for the Maryland trip.. Overall it was similar to any large tryout... Shuttles, stations 4 V 3, 6 V 5, half field and full field scrimmage.. Typical complaint.. the evaluaters weren't watching but chatting to each other..
It's a money maker doesn't compare to an elite team like Under Armour!!! Save your money not a coach will be found on the sidelines for girls.
well how was it? big turnout? competition?
It was broken down into 2 groups, 2017's and 2016 and 2015's there was about 80 kids in the group I was watching. Competition was very good ( although I did not see any Elite caliber kids). they expect to cut the list down to about 40 and play a "Pride of LI" game then make final decisions for the Maryland trip.. Overall it was similar to any large tryout... Shuttles, stations 4 V 3, 6 V 5, half field and full field scrimmage.. Typical complaint.. the evaluaters weren't watching but chatting to each other..
The middle school tryouts were a joke, the people doing the evaluations were barely paying attention, some kids got into the scrimmages only at the end, while others were out there almost the whole time. Watching the one on one area you had some groups were kids trying out for middie played defense the whole time while other kids trying out for middie played offense the whole time.For 90 or so dollars you could at least have 3 full hours of tryouts a few more evaluaters who pay attention.
There are also many college camps the same week as the Brine Classic, so it might be a better decision to send your daughter to a camp at the college she may be interested in attending....she will get more looks and would be a more productive way to spend her time.
Additionally, if Brine tryouts were run the same way as last year....that would mean that Team Elevate will be representing LI again in Maryland! I do hope for those of you that attended that they had impartial coaches evaluating this year?
There are also many college camps the same week as the Brine Classic, so it might be a better decision to send your daughter to a camp at the college she may be interested in attending....she will get more looks and would be a more productive way to spend her time.
Additionally, if Brine tryouts were run the same way as last year....that would mean that Team Elevate will be representing LI again in Maryland! I do hope for those of you that attended that they had impartial coaches evaluating this year?
I agree with the above poster send your daughter to a college camp that's money better spent. Compare some of the camps with the week of the games two years ago they were all almost the same time or close to it. The reality being that the college coaches are not there. If ever there was a money maker Brine is it. Yes they have a long list of college commits but not because of their games it's because most of those girls play travel and emailed the directors when they committed to college. My daughter being one of them.
well how was it? big turnout? competition?
It was broken down into 2 groups, 2017's and 2016 and 2015's there was about 80 kids in the group I was watching. Competition was very good ( although I did not see any Elite caliber kids). they expect to cut the list down to about 40 and play a "Pride of LI" game then make final decisions for the Maryland trip.. Overall it was similar to any large tryout... Shuttles, stations 4 V 3, 6 V 5, half field and full field scrimmage.. Typical complaint.. the evaluaters weren't watching but chatting to each other..
The middle school tryouts were a joke, the people doing the evaluations were barely paying attention, some kids got into the scrimmages only at the end, while others were out there almost the whole time. Watching the one on one area you had some groups were kids trying out for middie played defense the whole time while other kids trying out for middie played offense the whole time.For 90 or so dollars you could at least have 3 full hours of tryouts a few more evaluaters who pay attention.
Opted my daughters out this year and glad I did. Sending them to a few college camps instead. Better use of money I feel. Daughter did attend Brine last year, but wanted something else this year.
"Don't be fooled into believing it's like under armour bc it's not and it's usually the same time that Under Armour is going on just an FYI...SAVE your $$"
The Brine and UA tournaments are on different weekends this year
Funny heard totally different scenario , we know a several girls who went last year and had a great experience and met up with plenty of college coaches who actually one of the girls were recruited from Brine. Chances are the ones knocking it are the ones who didn't make the cut (SOUR GRAPES)! There was a big turnout at yesterdays tryouts , For each his/her own , Good luck trying out for the UA , its a YJ nation out there! Congrats to all the girls who are in the running.
well how was it? big turnout? competition?
It was broken down into 2 groups, 2017's and 2016 and 2015's there was about 80 kids in the group I was watching. Competition was very good ( although I did not see any Elite caliber kids). they expect to cut the list down to about 40 and play a "Pride of LI" game then make final decisions for the Maryland trip.. Overall it was similar to any large tryout... Shuttles, stations 4 V 3, 6 V 5, half field and full field scrimmage.. Typical complaint.. the evaluaters weren't watching but chatting to each other..
It's a money maker doesn't compare to an elite team like Under Armour!!! Save your money not a coach will be found on the sidelines for girls.
What are this weeks game predictions enough with the Brine games!!! What are some of the big match ups this week??
Funny heard totally different scenario , we know a several girls who went last year and had a great experience and met up with plenty of college coaches who actually one of the girls were recruited from Brine. Chances are the ones knocking it are the ones who didn't make the cut (SOUR GRAPES)! There was a big turnout at yesterdays tryouts , For each his/her own , Good luck trying out for the UA , its a YJ nation out there! Congrats to all the girls who are in the running.
well how was it? big turnout? competition?
It was broken down into 2 groups, 2017's and 2016 and 2015's there was about 80 kids in the group I was watching. Competition was very good ( although I did not see any Elite caliber kids). they expect to cut the list down to about 40 and play a "Pride of LI" game then make final decisions for the Maryland trip.. Overall it was similar to any large tryout... Shuttles, stations 4 V 3, 6 V 5, half field and full field scrimmage.. Typical complaint.. the evaluaters weren't watching but chatting to each other..
It's a money maker doesn't compare to an elite team like Under Armour!!! Save your money not a coach will be found on the sidelines for girls.
No Sour grapes here, just not interested in attending again. If it is not a money maker than why are they asking girls to pay an additional $$$ (over 100) to come play a game so the final decision may be made for cuts. That's over $250 for tryout cost then the additional cost for the 3 days. Sorry, made right decision in not attending this year.
Funny heard totally different scenario , we know a several girls who went last year and had a great experience and met up with plenty of college coaches who actually one of the girls were recruited from Brine. Chances are the ones knocking it are the ones who didn't make the cut (SOUR GRAPES)! There was a big turnout at yesterdays tryouts , For each his/her own , Good luck trying out for the UA , its a YJ nation out there! Congrats to all the girls who are in the running.
well how was it? big turnout? competition?
It was broken down into 2 groups, 2017's and 2016 and 2015's there was about 80 kids in the group I was watching. Competition was very good ( although I did not see any Elite caliber kids). they expect to cut the list down to about 40 and play a "Pride of LI" game then make final decisions for the Maryland trip.. Overall it was similar to any large tryout... Shuttles, stations 4 V 3, 6 V 5, half field and full field scrimmage.. Typical complaint.. the evaluaters weren't watching but chatting to each other..
It's a money maker doesn't compare to an elite team like Under Armour!!! Save your money not a coach will be found on the sidelines for girls.
No Sour grapes here, just not interested in attending again. If it is not a money maker than why are they asking girls to pay an additional $$$ (over 100) to come play a game so the final decision may be made for cuts. That's over $250 for tryout cost then the additional cost for the 3 days. Sorry, made right decision in not attending this year.
Its a complete money grab and anyone who went to the tryouts this year knows it.Prior to tryouts had heard that it is but thought we would give it a try anyway, big mistake. My daughter was selected to attend the next tryout but no thanks, another 150 dollars to play in 1 game so they can make a final decision, what a joke. BOC , I am surprised you are not all over this , a 250 dollar try-out fee and its not like the kids get any instruction out of it.From what I have seen you get to pay 250 dollars to get evaluaters that barely pay attention .
Brine was ridiculous and everyone there knows it. What they have to realize as they steal our money is they play with the minds of children. There were times nobody paid any attention to play. I have a daughter who had the worst tryout and she was selected. And I see a 2021 kid??? is that 2021 kid better then kids not selected. come on.
Brine was ridiculous and everyone there knows it. What they have to realize as they steal our money is they play with the minds of children. There were times nobody paid any attention to play. I have a daughter who had the worst tryout and she was selected. And I see a 2021 kid??? is that 2021 kid better then kids not selected. come on.
They did not take a couple of the best 2019 kids but took a 2021 kid who would have no chance playing against those 2019 kids. They took what 3 defenders , so I guess the position you try out for means very little they will just take a couple middies and make them defenders I guess.
What are this weeks game predictions enough with the Brine games!!! What are some of the big match ups this week??
Saint Anthony's vs. Vero Beach Fla. Fri. Night at 6pm
Saw the 2017 is the Final Roster , looks like it is Team Elevate Roster again .
Funny heard totally different scenario , we know a several girls who went last year and had a great experience and met up with plenty of college coaches who actually one of the girls were recruited from Brine. Chances are the ones knocking it are the ones who didn't make the cut (SOUR GRAPES)! There was a big turnout at yesterdays tryouts , For each his/her own , Good luck trying out for the UA , its a YJ nation out there! Congrats to all the girls who are in the running.
well how was it? big turnout? competition?
It was broken down into 2 groups, 2017's and 2016 and 2015's there was about 80 kids in the group I was watching. Competition was very good ( although I did not see any Elite caliber kids). they expect to cut the list down to about 40 and play a "Pride of LI" game then make final decisions for the Maryland trip.. Overall it was similar to any large tryout... Shuttles, stations 4 V 3, 6 V 5, half field and full field scrimmage.. Typical complaint.. the evaluaters weren't watching but chatting to each other..
It's a money maker doesn't compare to an elite team like Under Armour!!! Save your money not a coach will be found on the sidelines for girls.
No Sour grapes here, just not interested in attending again. If it is not a money maker than why are they asking girls to pay an additional $$$ (over 100) to come play a game so the final decision may be made for cuts. That's over $250 for tryout cost then the additional cost for the 3 days. Sorry, made right decision in not attending this year.
Saw the 2017 is the Final Roster , looks like it is Team Elevate Roster again .
Funny heard totally different scenario , we know a several girls who went last year and had a great experience and met up with plenty of college coaches who actually one of the girls were recruited from Brine. Chances are the ones knocking it are the ones who didn't make the cut (SOUR GRAPES)! There was a big turnout at yesterdays tryouts , For each his/her own , Good luck trying out for the UA , its a YJ nation out there! Congrats to all the girls who are in the running.
well how was it? big turnout? competition?
It was broken down into 2 groups, 2017's and 2016 and 2015's there was about 80 kids in the group I was watching. Competition was very good ( although I did not see any Elite caliber kids). they expect to cut the list down to about 40 and play a "Pride of LI" game then make final decisions for the Maryland trip.. Overall it was similar to any large tryout... Shuttles, stations 4 V 3, 6 V 5, half field and full field scrimmage.. Typical complaint.. the evaluaters weren't watching but chatting to each other..
It's a money maker doesn't compare to an elite team like Under Armour!!! Save your money not a coach will be found on the sidelines for girls.
No Sour grapes here, just not interested in attending again. If it is not a money maker than why are they asking girls to pay an additional $$$ (over 100) to come play a game so the final decision may be made for cuts. That's over $250 for tryout cost then the additional cost for the 3 days. Sorry, made right decision in not attending this year.
1/2 the kids at the 2017 tryout were from Elevate and a bunch of them didn't make it. If you're looking for drama about the roster for the 2017 tryout, there may be some but you missed the mark.
Lets see if that girls is able to put up numbers like that aginst Bayshore, West Islip, and West Babylon next week!
No 11 point scorers in todays game!
I believe the superstar got shutout, now let me guess she was sick, got hurt, etc
Went to the tryout , daughter was selected but not going. Not paying another tryout fee only to pay again to go to a camp. Why another tryout fee?? $250 just to tryout. Just another money grab. Looked into it. It;s not even run by Brine. It;s run by some sports business. Have fun without me.
It was broken down into 2 groups, 2017's and 2016 and 2015's there was about 80 kids in the group I was watching. Competition was very good ( although I did not see any Elite caliber kids). they expect to cut the list down to about 40 and play a "Pride of LI" game then make final decisions for the Maryland trip.. Overall it was similar to any large tryout... Shuttles, stations 4 V 3, 6 V 5, half field and full field scrimmage.. Typical complaint.. the evaluaters weren't watching but chatting to each other.. [/quote]
It's a money maker doesn't compare to an elite team like Under Armour!!! Save your money not a coach will be found on the sidelines for girls. [/quote] [/quote]
No Sour grapes here, just not interested in attending again. If it is not a money maker than why are they asking girls to pay an additional $$$ (over 100) to come play a game so the final decision may be made for cuts. That's over $250 for tryout cost then the additional cost for the 3 days. Sorry, made right decision in not attending this year. [/quote] [/quote]
1/2 the kids at the 2017 tryout were from Elevate and a bunch of them didn't make it. If you're looking for drama about the roster for the 2017 tryout, there may be some but you missed the mark. [/quote]
Please, enough with the Brine stuff! Start a new thread for that. Keep the discussion on the HS teams and the games played.
Chances of a high school athlete competing in College Lacrosse
Number of High School Lacrosse players
100,641 men 74,993 women
Number of College Lacrosse players
12,781 men, 9,845 women
% of high school players competing in college
11.7% men 11.7% women
The Brine classic is for high school students and belongs on this thread. I think it is helpful to future players to have this info. It is a money grab and the evaluators are biased towards one club in particular.....I for one would have liked this info last year when my daughter went to the $80-$100 tryout.....Last year there were many high caliber players there who were not chosen or even made alternates.....it was all about team elevate. These boards, as much as there is so much crap and whining on them can be very helpful to kids coming up if they have this info in hand. I personally believe the tryout numbers were way way lower this year because this info was disseminated to the lax community last year....so sorry you are bothered by something that does not interest you....but I hope the info helps others! Wishing all LI players a great rest of the HS season and a great summer season!
should be an interesting week , Islip has games against two of the weakest teams out there( two first year varsity programs). My guess the under over for the sisters is 40 points total in the two games. Any takers on that bet.Hey Islip coach how about a little sportsmanship, maybe let the stat builders get a tatste of how it feels to play defense for a whole game.
should be an interesting week , Islip has games against two of the weakest teams out there( two first year varsity programs). My guess the under over for the sisters is 40 points total in the two games. Any takers on that bet.Hey Islip coach how about a little sportsmanship, maybe let the stat builders get a tatste of how it feels to play defense for a whole game.
I just took a look at the stats from Islip's two losses and the girls seem to put up consistent numbers. Most teams are carried by two or three goal scorers they just happen to be sisters. As long as they balance the scoring the kids should be able to continue at the pace they are on. Wouldn't hurt to look to have more assists than goals when they go against weaker teams .
should be an interesting week , Islip has games against two of the weakest teams out there( two first year varsity programs). My guess the under over for the sisters is 40 points total in the two games. Any takers on that bet.Hey Islip coach how about a little sportsmanship, maybe let the stat builders get a tatste of how it feels to play defense for a whole game.
I just took a look at the stats from Islip's two losses and the girls seem to put up consistent numbers. Most teams are carried by two or three goal scorers they just happen to be sisters. As long as they balance the scoring the kids should be able to continue at the pace they are on. Wouldn't hurt to look to have more assists than goals when they go against weaker teams .
Who cares if they put up consistant numbers mom,I get it when they need to put up those numbers when trying to win a game but to do so in games that they are going to win easily without them is bad sportsmanship and being a bad teammate.Look at Shorehams last game 17-1 with 1 kid scoring 6 goals, did she need to do that to win the game or was it more to make mommy and daddy feel good.In the end it comes down to the coaches and if they let these stat builder ball hogs do it then its on them.How about being good teammates and trying to get the kids that don't usually score much a few goals.
should be an interesting week , Islip has games against two of the weakest teams out there( two first year varsity programs). My guess the under over for the sisters is 40 points total in the two games. Any takers on that bet.Hey Islip coach how about a little sportsmanship, maybe let the stat builders get a tatste of how it feels to play defense for a whole game.
I just took a look at the stats from Islip's two losses and the girls seem to put up consistent numbers. Most teams are carried by two or three goal scorers they just happen to be sisters. As long as they balance the scoring the kids should be able to continue at the pace they are on. Wouldn't hurt to look to have more assists than goals when they go against weaker teams .
Pass certain girls the ball on most teams and everyone else can stop running because its never getting passed back - FACT!
should be an interesting week , Islip has games against two of the weakest teams out there( two first year varsity programs). My guess the under over for the sisters is 40 points total in the two games. Any takers on that bet.Hey Islip coach how about a little sportsmanship, maybe let the stat builders get a tatste of how it feels to play defense for a whole game.
I just took a look at the stats from Islip's two losses and the girls seem to put up consistent numbers. Most teams are carried by two or three goal scorers they just happen to be sisters. As long as they balance the scoring the kids should be able to continue at the pace they are on. Wouldn't hurt to look to have more assists than goals when they go against weaker teams .
Pass certain girls the ball on most teams and everyone else can stop running because its never getting passed back - FACT!
So true!! The coaches in my HS let the seniors just pass to each other, they never pull them off even though they see they are not passing to open players. So annoying!
The black holes of lacrosse. Usually a sign the coach is weak and too much of a wimp to stop them.
should be an interesting week , Islip has games against two of the weakest teams out there( two first year varsity programs). My guess the under over for the sisters is 40 points total in the two games. Any takers on that bet.Hey Islip coach how about a little sportsmanship, maybe let the stat builders get a tatste of how it feels to play defense for a whole game.
I just took a look at the stats from Islip's two losses and the girls seem to put up consistent numbers. Most teams are carried by two or three goal scorers they just happen to be sisters. As long as they balance the scoring the kids should be able to continue at the pace they are on. Wouldn't hurt to look to have more assists than goals when they go against weaker teams .
Pass certain girls the ball on most teams and everyone else can stop running because its never getting passed back - FACT!
So true!! The coaches in my HS let the seniors just pass to each other, they never pull them off even though they see they are not passing to open players. So annoying!
It starts when they play PAL
West Hampton girls lax....hmmm....Putting a lot of smack all over social media. You seem to be following your classless coaches lead. I guess some cash and a home on Dune Rd can't buy you character huh.
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
Too funny the Islip coach called in his stats but did not put in the assists, was this an accident or done on purpose because he realizes what a tool he will look like when the are added in the the stat builders sisters numbers. The West hampton team has become the team of get your numbers because if you pass it to any number of black holes you will never see the ball again, the coach who used to be there never would have allowed it. Girls at Westhampton , go ahead keep feeding the monsters, you know who they are.
Often the very best players on the field don't show well in goals scored all the time. Some girls have huge impacts on the field in CT, GB, assists, pressure etc..... Many times the best player on the field is not the leading goal scorer. You will often see one girl completely control a game and walk away with only a goal or two. This is the reason college coaches go to games. Don't be jealous of the goal scorers, who cares. If these girls play well rounded lacrosse, good for them, if they are a one trick pony ( go to goal with three or four fan penetration attempts without a pass) and are true black hole that is unfortunate.
Often the very best players on the field don't show well in goals scored all the time. Some girls have huge impacts on the field in CT, GB, assists, pressure etc..... Many times the best player on the field is not the leading goal scorer. You will often see one girl completely control a game and walk away with only a goal or two. This is the reason college coaches go to games. Don't be jealous of the goal scorers, who cares. If these girls play well rounded lacrosse, good for them, if they are a one trick pony ( go to goal with three or four fan penetration attempts without a pass) and are true black hole that is unfortunate.
Amen...
Often the very best players on the field don't show well in goals scored all the time. Some girls have huge impacts on the field in CT, GB, assists, pressure etc..... Many times the best player on the field is not the leading goal scorer. You will often see one girl completely control a game and walk away with only a goal or two. This is the reason college coaches go to games. Don't be jealous of the goal scorers, who cares. If these girls play well rounded lacrosse, good for them, if they are a one trick pony ( go to goal with three or four fan penetration attempts without a pass) and are true black hole that is unfortunate.
Amen...
All I will say is that our High School Yellow Jackets Players are black holes and when they do pass, they only pass to each other. I am sure it is true of other travel program kids but we only have YJ's that I know of. They are very good players, but so are many other girls on the team who don't play club. Very hard to root for them and its sad. Makes for a divided bench and a divided parents sideline. High School is not the same as the summer travel circuit.
Bay Shore @ Hauppauge Bayshore hurt, Hauppauge by 1
Commack HS @ Ward Melville WM rolls
East Islip @ Lindenhurst EI by a lot
Middle Country @ Connetquot MC by 5
North Babylon @ Sachem East SE crushes NB
Northport @ Smithtown West Port by 5
Sachem North @ Riverhead tossup, 2 weak teamss
West Babylon @ Smithtown East either way
William Floyd @ Longwood Longwood wins
West Islip @ H H Hills WI kills
Walt Whitman @ Brentwood WW might get 1st and only win
Bay Shore @ Hauppauge Bayshore hurt, Hauppauge by 1
Commack HS @ Ward Melville WM rolls
East Islip @ Lindenhurst EI by a lot
Middle Country @ Connetquot MC by 5
North Babylon @ Sachem East SE crushes NB
Northport @ Smithtown West Port by 5
Sachem North @ Riverhead tossup, 2 weak teamss
West Babylon @ Smithtown East either way
William Floyd @ Longwood Longwood wins
West Islip @ H H Hills WI kills
Walt Whitman @ Brentwood WW might get 1st and only win
Give it up - nobody cares about your meaningless predictions!
Bay Shore @ Hauppauge Bayshore hurt, Hauppauge by 1
Commack HS @ Ward Melville WM rolls
East Islip @ Lindenhurst EI by a lot
Middle Country @ Connetquot MC by 5
North Babylon @ Sachem East SE crushes NB
Northport @ Smithtown West Port by 5
Sachem North @ Riverhead tossup, 2 weak teamss
West Babylon @ Smithtown East either way
William Floyd @ Longwood Longwood wins
West Islip @ H H Hills WI kills
Walt Whitman @ Brentwood WW might get 1st and only win
Give it up - nobody cares about your meaningless predictions!
Not true, I like to see them.
Often the very best players on the field don't show well in goals scored all the time. Some girls have huge impacts on the field in CT, GB, assists, pressure etc..... Many times the best player on the field is not the leading goal scorer. You will often see one girl completely control a game and walk away with only a goal or two. This is the reason college coaches go to games. Don't be jealous of the goal scorers, who cares. If these girls play well rounded lacrosse, good for them, if they are a one trick pony ( go to goal with three or four fan penetration attempts without a pass) and are true black hole that is unfortunate.
Amen...
All I will say is that our High School Yellow Jackets Players are black holes and when they do pass, they only pass to each other. I am sure it is true of other travel program kids but we only have YJ's that I know of. They are very good players, but so are many other girls on the team who don't play club. Very hard to root for them and its sad. Makes for a divided bench and a divided parents sideline. High School is not the same as the summer travel circuit.
I agree that sometimes the best players are not the goal scorers. What sucks is that that's who gets the recognition in print and at award time. That's where the burn is.
I'm not a big fan of the YJ franchise but in defense of the above global statement, it's not like that on our HS team. Our YJs do a good amount of feeding to other players. We have, I think, four different clubs on our team and it's all good. We have a few black hole players but they're from different clubs, and even one or two who don't play club, they just don't feel the need to see the field and deliver a pass. <rolling eyes> That said, our coach is not affiliated with any club teams and that is a blessing.
Often the very best players on the field don't show well in goals scored all the time. Some girls have huge impacts on the field in CT, GB, assists, pressure etc..... Many times the best player on the field is not the leading goal scorer. You will often see one girl completely control a game and walk away with only a goal or two. This is the reason college coaches go to games. Don't be jealous of the goal scorers, who cares. If these girls play well rounded lacrosse, good for them, if they are a one trick pony ( go to goal with three or four fan penetration attempts without a pass) and are true black hole that is unfortunate.
Amen...
All I will say is that our High School Yellow Jackets Players are black holes and when they do pass, they only pass to each other. I am sure it is true of other travel program kids but we only have YJ's that I know of. They are very good players, but so are many other girls on the team who don't play club. Very hard to root for them and its sad. Makes for a divided bench and a divided parents sideline. High School is not the same as the summer travel circuit.
I agree that sometimes the best players are not the goal scorers. What sucks is that that's who gets the recognition in print and at award time. That's where the burn is.
I'm not a big fan of the YJ franchise but in defense of the above global statement, it's not like that on our HS team. Our YJs do a good amount of feeding to other players. We have, I think, four different clubs on our team and it's all good. We have a few black hole players but they're from different clubs, and even one or two who don't play club, they just don't feel the need to see the field and deliver a pass. <rolling eyes> That said, our coach is not affiliated with any club teams and that is a blessing.
The awards usually go to the big time point getters so it feeds into the selfish play. Its unfortunate but with the big money and year round club play it is an evil that is here to stay. I don't know if my stomach van take watching much more
Often the very best players on the field don't show well in goals scored all the time. Some girls have huge impacts on the field in CT, GB, assists, pressure etc..... Many times the best player on the field is not the leading goal scorer. You will often see one girl completely control a game and walk away with only a goal or two. This is the reason college coaches go to games. Don't be jealous of the goal scorers, who cares. If these girls play well rounded lacrosse, good for them, if they are a one trick pony ( go to goal with three or four fan penetration attempts without a pass) and are true black hole that is unfortunate.
Amen...
All I will say is that our High School Yellow Jackets Players are black holes and when they do pass, they only pass to each other. I am sure it is true of other travel program kids but we only have YJ's that I know of. They are very good players, but so are many other girls on the team who don't play club. Very hard to root for them and its sad. Makes for a divided bench and a divided parents sideline. High School is not the same as the summer travel circuit.
I agree that sometimes the best players are not the goal scorers. What sucks is that that's who gets the recognition in print and at award time. That's where the burn is.
I'm not a big fan of the YJ franchise but in defense of the above global statement, it's not like that on our HS team. Our YJs do a good amount of feeding to other players. We have, I think, four different clubs on our team and it's all good. We have a few black hole players but they're from different clubs, and even one or two who don't play club, they just don't feel the need to see the field and deliver a pass. <rolling eyes> That said, our coach is not affiliated with any club teams and that is a blessing.
The awards usually go to the big time point getters so it feeds into the selfish play. Its unfortunate but with the big money and year round club play it is an evil that is here to stay. I don't know if my stomach van take watching much more
Its not all the girls, some of the very best girls playing varsity are pages down on the goal list. What's annoying is that msg list the girls in order of most goals with no regards to assists or total points. NCAA tracks all stats and gives a much better view of the true story. We have a go to goal girl on our team who likely leads team in scoring, goal stats would suggest that she is best player on team but she is far from that. Very poor stick skills/speed/vision, but if you go to goal every single time you get the ball and never pass, you end up shooting 10-20 shots a game and even with a horrible goal percentage, she ends up with a fair amount of goals. It is ugly lacrosse that a good coach would correct. Seems to make mom happy.
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
In my opinion high school lax is crap and that's why most college coaches don't care about it. You have good players sitting on the bench so favorites can play. Kids who bust their asses day in and out but the coaches are so immature they only care about the stats of their franchise players...especially all these YJ coaches in the high school coaching system. Ruin a kids life, make them miserable but as long as your franchise players are getting there stats who cares. It should go back to the days where a varsity team consisted of mostly Seniors and juniors with an occasional sophmore...that will eliminate a lot of this stuff!!
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
In my opinion high school lax is crap and that's why most college coaches don't care about it. You have good players sitting on the bench so favorites can play. Kids who bust their asses day in and out but the coaches are so immature they only care about the stats of their franchise players...especially all these YJ coaches in the high school coaching system. Ruin a kids life, make them miserable but as long as your franchise players are getting there stats who cares. It should go back to the days where a varsity team consisted of mostly Seniors and juniors with an occasional sophmore...that will eliminate a lot of this stuff!!
Couldn't agree more, with everything you said, right down to the YJ coaches, playing favorites. It's ridiculous, and we keep reminding ourselves that it really doesn't mean anything, like you said - it's crap. Wish we could go back too, when the 7th & 8th graders played middle school, and 9th & most 10th played JV. It's getting out of hand!
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
In my opinion high school lax is crap and that's why most college coaches don't care about it. You have good players sitting on the bench so favorites can play. Kids who bust their asses day in and out but the coaches are so immature they only care about the stats of their franchise players...especially all these YJ coaches in the high school coaching system. Ruin a kids life, make them miserable but as long as your franchise players are getting there stats who cares. It should go back to the days where a varsity team consisted of mostly Seniors and juniors with an occasional sophmore...that will eliminate a lot of this stuff!!
Couldn't agree more, with everything you said, right down to the YJ coaches, playing favorites. It's ridiculous, and we keep reminding ourselves that it really doesn't mean anything, like you said - it's crap. Wish we could go back too, when the 7th & 8th graders played middle school, and 9th & most 10th played JV. It's getting out of hand!
We have YJ parents bitching and moaning that their 8th grader wasn't called up to varsity because her other YJ friends in other districts were and they need to keep up you know. Its all about them and not the district or the team. I think I just saw a 7th grader commit lol. These 8th and 9th graders aren't ready to hang around with seniors and shouldn't be rushing it
Lets see if that girls is able to put up numbers like that aginst Bayshore, West Islip, and West Babylon next week!
No 11 point scorers in todays game!
I believe the superstar got shutout, now let me guess she was sick, got hurt, etc
Looks like the 11 point scorers were shut down against real competition
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
In my opinion high school lax is crap and that's why most college coaches don't care about it. You have good players sitting on the bench so favorites can play. Kids who bust their asses day in and out but the coaches are so immature they only care about the stats of their franchise players...especially all these YJ coaches in the high school coaching system. Ruin a kids life, make them miserable but as long as your franchise players are getting there stats who cares. It should go back to the days where a varsity team consisted of mostly Seniors and juniors with an occasional sophmore...that will eliminate a lot of this stuff!!
You people are such a bunch of blind morons. Coaches want to win and will play the kids who give them the best chance at doing so. You are the typical parents that always feel your kid is being unfairly treated when in reality your kid is not that good. If these YJ kids were as bad as you say with better kids sitting on the bench then why do sonny YJ kids get committed to so many good schools and start at sonny top level programs. Stop blaming YJ because your kid cannot catch the ball.
My daughter goes to a school where only juniors and seniors play varsity and the occasional sophomore gets called up only if there is a positional need. So, they will never win a championship because they don't always have their best players on varsity, but you know that going in and shouldn't complain about it. Personally I like it. Its not all about winning. And...they have numerous college commits on their team, so its clearly not always about playing varsity as a 9th grader.
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
In my opinion high school lax is crap and that's why most college coaches don't care about it. You have good players sitting on the bench so favorites can play. Kids who bust their asses day in and out but the coaches are so immature they only care about the stats of their franchise players...especially all these YJ coaches in the high school coaching system. Ruin a kids life, make them miserable but as long as your franchise players are getting there stats who cares. It should go back to the days where a varsity team consisted of mostly Seniors and juniors with an occasional sophmore...that will eliminate a lot of this stuff!!
You people are such a bunch of blind morons. Coaches want to win and will play the kids who give them the best chance at doing so. You are the typical parents that always feel your kid is being unfairly treated when in reality your kid is not that good. If these YJ kids were as bad as you say with better kids sitting on the bench then why do sonny YJ kids get committed to so many good schools and start at sonny top level programs. Stop blaming YJ because your kid cannot catch the ball.
You are the perfect example of why parents of girls on other club teams dislike YJ parents in general. My daughter can catch the ball - even a bad pass - and is committed. And believe it or not, she doesn't play for YJ
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
In my opinion high school lax is crap and that's why most college coaches don't care about it. You have good players sitting on the bench so favorites can play. Kids who bust their asses day in and out but the coaches are so immature they only care about the stats of their franchise players...especially all these YJ coaches in the high school coaching system. Ruin a kids life, make them miserable but as long as your franchise players are getting there stats who cares. It should go back to the days where a varsity team consisted of mostly Seniors and juniors with an occasional sophmore...that will eliminate a lot of this stuff!!
You people are such a bunch of blind morons. Coaches want to win and will play the kids who give them the best chance at doing so. You are the typical parents that always feel your kid is being unfairly treated when in reality your kid is not that good. If these YJ kids were as bad as you say with better kids sitting on the bench then why do sonny YJ kids get committed to so many good schools and start at sonny top level programs. Stop blaming YJ because your kid cannot catch the ball.
You have no idea what you're talking about, OR maybe you're daughter is one of the girls getting the special treatment. My school doesn't have this problem, but I'm smart enough to understand that it does happen, but not everywhere. Some parents complain, when yes, they're kids might be on the bench because they're not as good. But for you to say that ALL varsity coaches are always putting the best players on the field, shows that you don't know what you're talking about. There are many coaches that definitely have favorites, for various reasons. Each school is different, so you can't generalize, like you just ignorantly did. If anyone's a blind moron here, it's you (not to mention immature, and classless).
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
In my opinion high school lax is crap and that's why most college coaches don't care about it. You have good players sitting on the bench so favorites can play. Kids who bust their asses day in and out but the coaches are so immature they only care about the stats of their franchise players...especially all these YJ coaches in the high school coaching system. Ruin a kids life, make them miserable but as long as your franchise players are getting there stats who cares. It should go back to the days where a varsity team consisted of mostly Seniors and juniors with an occasional sophmore...that will eliminate a lot of this stuff!!
If the freshman and sophomores play Jv will some of this competitive cut throat behavior will go away.? Our HS coach is not affiliated with a club but has favorites and many believe is unscrupulous in many ways.
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
In my opinion high school lax is crap and that's why most college coaches don't care about it. You have good players sitting on the bench so favorites can play. Kids who bust their asses day in and out but the coaches are so immature they only care about the stats of their franchise players...especially all these YJ coaches in the high school coaching system. Ruin a kids life, make them miserable but as long as your franchise players are getting there stats who cares. It should go back to the days where a varsity team consisted of mostly Seniors and juniors with an occasional sophmore...that will eliminate a lot of this stuff!!
Couldn't agree more, with everything you said, right down to the YJ coaches, playing favorites. It's ridiculous, and we keep reminding ourselves that it really doesn't mean anything, like you said - it's crap. Wish we could go back too, when the 7th & 8th graders played middle school, and 9th & most 10th played JV. It's getting out of hand!
We have YJ parents bitching and moaning that their 8th grader wasn't called up to varsity because her other YJ friends in other districts were and they need to keep up you know. Its all about them and not the district or the team. I think I just saw a 7th grader commit lol. These 8th and 9th graders aren't ready to hang around with seniors and shouldn't be rushing it
7th graders are 12 YEARS OLD!! There's no need for them to be rushed to the High School! It's ridiculous. Forget about the ability and the sport. Purely from a maturity level, it's crazy
Its not all the girls, some of the very best girls playing varsity are pages down on the goal list. What's annoying is that msg list the girls in order of most goals with no regards to assists or total points. NCAA tracks all stats and gives a much better view of the true story. We have a go to goal girl on our team who likely leads team in scoring, goal stats would suggest that she is best player on team but she is far from that. Very poor stick skills/speed/vision, but if you go to goal every single time you get the ball and never pass, you end up shooting 10-20 shots a game and even with a horrible goal percentage, she ends up with a fair amount of goals. It is ugly lacrosse that a good coach would correct. Seems to make mom happy.
Agreed. Defenders are completely ignored by MSG. Coaches don't keep track of any stats past goals, assists and saves. You can cause all the turnovers and get all the ground balls and you get a "good game," a pat on the back, and nothing else while the kid with tunnel vision who can't even go lefty gets her name in the paper, again. It's frustrating.
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
In my opinion high school lax is crap and that's why most college coaches don't care about it. You have good players sitting on the bench so favorites can play. Kids who bust their asses day in and out but the coaches are so immature they only care about the stats of their franchise players...especially all these YJ coaches in the high school coaching system. Ruin a kids life, make them miserable but as long as your franchise players are getting there stats who cares. It should go back to the days where a varsity team consisted of mostly Seniors and juniors with an occasional sophmore...that will eliminate a lot of this stuff!!
If the freshman and sophomores play Jv will some of this competitive cut throat behavior will go away.? Our HS coach is not affiliated with a club but has favorites and many believe is unscrupulous in many ways.
Yes, if most kids below 10th grade played JV, there would be way less cut throat behavior (mostly from parents), and kids worried about not making varsity with their friends, or girls they're in competition with. It would take so much pressure off, and let these YOUNG girls develop appropriately. Some of these girls are dying to make varsity, just for the status, and to avoid humiliation. They'd rather make varsity and not play, then play a ton on JV, and get valuable experience. They're too young to understand how to make that decision, and the parents are too crazy and caught up, to make it for them!
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
In my opinion high school lax is crap and that's why most college coaches don't care about it. You have good players sitting on the bench so favorites can play. Kids who bust their asses day in and out but the coaches are so immature they only care about the stats of their franchise players...especially all these YJ coaches in the high school coaching system. Ruin a kids life, make them miserable but as long as your franchise players are getting there stats who cares. It should go back to the days where a varsity team consisted of mostly Seniors and juniors with an occasional sophmore...that will eliminate a lot of this stuff!!
If the freshman and sophomores play Jv will some of this competitive cut throat behavior will go away.? Our HS coach is not affiliated with a club but has favorites and many believe is unscrupulous in many ways.
Yes, if most kids below 10th grade played JV, there would be way less cut throat behavior (mostly from parents), and kids worried about not making varsity with their friends, or girls they're in competition with. It would take so much pressure off, and let these YOUNG girls develop appropriately. Some of these girls are dying to make varsity, just for the status, and to avoid humiliation. They'd rather make varsity and not play, then play a ton on JV, and get valuable experience. They're too young to understand how to make that decision, and the parents are too crazy and caught up, to make it for them!
Any sophomore, freshmen, etc. on a Varsity team that does not play is wasting their time. It is a poor decision by the parents to have their girls stand on the sidelines when they could be playing, or starting, on JV. Playing competitive, live games against an opponent far out ways development from just practicing. Beware of the girls who are now on JV, playing every day, taking your position next year. Then your high school career ends up being completely unfulfilled.
so they are good kids and committed kids and not the best kids and they will never win and they are ok with that . that is what i call losers.
Bay Shore @ Hauppauge Bayshore hurt, Hauppauge by 1
Commack HS @ Ward Melville WM rolls
East Islip @ Lindenhurst EI by a lot
Middle Country @ Connetquot MC by 5
North Babylon @ Sachem East SE crushes NB
Northport @ Smithtown West Port by 5
Sachem North @ Riverhead tossup, 2 weak teamss
West Babylon @ Smithtown East either way
William Floyd @ Longwood Longwood wins
West Islip @ H H Hills WI kills
Walt Whitman @ Brentwood WW might get 1st and only win
Give it up - nobody cares about your meaningless predictions!
Not true, I like to see them.
wow this guy is good..
Let's be honest Islip coach is not the only one clearly running up stats. Take a look at some of the score of some of the other games. Huntington, BPBP, Mt Sinai, ESM and WestHampton just to name a few double digit wins with large margins almost all season. Watched the ESM vs SWR game yesterday not one player came off the bench for ESM even with a big lead if that's not a stat building move I don't know what is. The game and coaches have changed so much this year it seems to have become all about the stats and percentages vs the development of an entire program for most of these coaches.
In my opinion high school lax is crap and that's why most college coaches don't care about it. You have good players sitting on the bench so favorites can play. Kids who bust their asses day in and out but the coaches are so immature they only care about the stats of their franchise players...especially all these YJ coaches in the high school coaching system. Ruin a kids life, make them miserable but as long as your franchise players are getting there stats who cares. It should go back to the days where a varsity team consisted of mostly Seniors and juniors with an occasional sophmore...that will eliminate a lot of this stuff!!
If the freshman and sophomores play Jv will some of this competitive cut throat behavior will go away.? Our HS coach is not affiliated with a club but has favorites and many believe is unscrupulous in many ways.
Yes, if most kids below 10th grade played JV, there would be way less cut throat behavior (mostly from parents), and kids worried about not making varsity with their friends, or girls they're in competition with. It would take so much pressure off, and let these YOUNG girls develop appropriately. Some of these girls are dying to make varsity, just for the status, and to avoid humiliation. They'd rather make varsity and not play, then play a ton on JV, and get valuable experience. They're too young to understand how to make that decision, and the parents are too crazy and caught up, to make it for them!
Any sophomore, freshmen, etc. on a Varsity team that does not play is wasting their time. It is a poor decision by the parents to have their girls stand on the sidelines when they could be playing, or starting, on JV. Playing competitive, live games against an opponent far out ways development from just practicing. Beware of the girls who are now on JV, playing every day, taking your position next year. Then your high school career ends up being completely unfulfilled.
Sounds like the jealous parent of a JV player talking here...
D1 playoff teams are set..... its a race for the top seeds.
West Islip
Northport
Hauppauge
Longwood
Sachem East
Ward Melville
West Babylon
Middle Country
Smithtown West
Smithtown East
Bay Shore
East Islip
Commack HS
"You have no idea what you're talking about, OR maybe you're daughter is one of the girls getting the special treatment. My school doesn't have this problem, but I'm smart enough to understand that it does happen, but not everywhere. Some parents complain, when yes, they're kids might be on the bench because they're not as good. But for you to say that ALL varsity coaches are always putting the best players on the field, shows that you don't know what you're talking about. There are many coaches that definitely have favorites, for various reasons. Each school is different, so you can't generalize, like you just ignorantly did. If anyone's a blind moron here, it's you (not to mention immature, and classless)."
Who is the moron, where does it say ALL varsity coaches,if you are going to put a word in caps that you claim someone posted make sure they actually did.I have yet to see the varsity coach that does not want to win a game just because they don't agree with mommy that her daughter is a starter does not mean they want to lose. Name the coach that does not want to win and also name the coach that does not play favorites , they all do. Hey moron any coach that puts starters on the field is playing favorites.
Why is it when my daughter is asked what colleges she is applying to she smiles and gives you a list but when you ask a travel player (while playing for HS team) they are so secretive? Another reason it hard to root for them. Very sad
Why is it when my daughter is asked what colleges she is applying to she smiles and gives you a list but when you ask a travel player (while playing for HS team) they are so secretive? Another reason it hard to root for them. Very sad
Maybe its none of your business where they are looking, stop getting into other peoples business.
Wow. You have a thing for the Islip sisters. It's horrible that you keep picking on these good kids. Get over it mommy.
Why is it when my daughter is asked what colleges she is applying to she smiles and gives you a list but when you ask a travel player (while playing for HS team) they are so secretive? Another reason it hard to root for them. Very sad
Maybe its none of your business where they are looking, stop getting into other peoples business.
With answers like this you wonder why you stand alone watching games?
8th and 9th graders shouldn't be hanging out with seniors in their cars, with boys and parties.
The youngsters just aren't ready. its about more than lacrosse.
"You have no idea what you're talking about, OR maybe you're daughter is one of the girls getting the special treatment. My school doesn't have this problem, but I'm smart enough to understand that it does happen, but not everywhere. Some parents complain, when yes, they're kids might be on the bench because they're not as good. But for you to say that ALL varsity coaches are always putting the best players on the field, shows that you don't know what you're talking about. There are many coaches that definitely have favorites, for various reasons. Each school is different, so you can't generalize, like you just ignorantly did. If anyone's a blind moron here, it's you (not to mention immature, and classless)."
Who is the moron, where does it say ALL varsity coaches,if you are going to put a word in caps that you claim someone posted make sure they actually did.I have yet to see the varsity coach that does not want to win a game just because they don't agree with mommy that her daughter is a starter does not mean they want to lose. Name the coach that does not want to win and also name the coach that does not play favorites , they all do. Hey moron any coach that puts starters on the field is playing favorites.
Sorry, but you're still clearly the moron here. The more you type, the more you prove it.
Why is it when my daughter is asked what colleges she is applying to she smiles and gives you a list but when you ask a travel player (while playing for HS team) they are so secretive? Another reason it hard to root for them. Very sad
Not for nothing but clubs tell the families not to broadcast from where their looks are coming from. Probably to reduce friction.
In my own experience, in another sport, my daughter had a coach coming here to see her play and her "friend" all of a sudden was contacting that coach to see her (the friend) play as well despite having no prior interest in that school. Ie., jumping on our bandwagon because it was convenient (and possibly another direct challenge to my kid, because that was going on as well). I did not appreciate that at all. The other parents even violated NCAA guidelines regarding contact when I was playing by the rules. In the end, neither girl chose that school but the whole experience put a nail in coffin of that friendship. So yeah, since then I've played my cards closer.
Why is it when my daughter is asked what colleges she is applying to she smiles and gives you a list but when you ask a travel player (while playing for HS team) they are so secretive? Another reason it hard to root for them. Very sad
Maybe its none of your business where they are looking, stop getting into other peoples business.
With answers like this you wonder why you stand alone watching games?
I, for one enjoy watching the game alone... and stand to the side on purpose... I don't miss your conversation..
Why is it when my daughter is asked what colleges she is applying to she smiles and gives you a list but when you ask a travel player (while playing for HS team) they are so secretive? Another reason it hard to root for them. Very sad
Maybe its none of your business where they are looking, stop getting into other peoples business.
With answers like this you wonder why you stand alone watching games?
I, for one enjoy watching the game alone... and stand to the side on purpose... I don't miss your conversation..
Thats a shame that you can't share in your communities school district spirit, thats what it is all about, its not just about you and your daughter.
Do realize this will all be over some day soon? Make some friends from town
Any word on St Ants vs Vero?
St. Anthony's defeats Vero 11-9!!!! Go Friars!
"You have no idea what you're talking about, OR maybe you're daughter is one of the girls getting the special treatment. My school doesn't have this problem, but I'm smart enough to understand that it does happen, but not everywhere. Some parents complain, when yes, they're kids might be on the bench because they're not as good. But for you to say that ALL varsity coaches are always putting the best players on the field, shows that you don't know what you're talking about. There are many coaches that definitely have favorites, for various reasons. Each school is different, so you can't generalize, like you just ignorantly did. If anyone's a blind moron here, it's you (not to mention immature, and classless)."
Who is the moron, where does it say ALL varsity coaches,if you are going to put a word in caps that you claim someone posted make sure they actually did.I have yet to see the varsity coach that does not want to win a game just because they don't agree with mommy that her daughter is a starter does not mean they want to lose. Name the coach that does not want to win and also name the coach that does not play favorites , they all do. Hey moron any coach that puts starters on the field is playing favorites.
Sorry, but you're still clearly the moron here. The more you type, the more you prove it.
Don't be sorry that you are so clueless, understand your kid is not very good and you need to blame politics as to why she does not play. The reason she does not play is you tell her it's unfair that she is sitting on the bench when what you should be telling her is too learn how to use her left hand , work harder, stop making excuses and most importantly stop listening to you .
"You have no idea what you're talking about, OR maybe you're daughter is one of the girls getting the special treatment. My school doesn't have this problem, but I'm smart enough to understand that it does happen, but not everywhere. Some parents complain, when yes, they're kids might be on the bench because they're not as good. But for you to say that ALL varsity coaches are always putting the best players on the field, shows that you don't know what you're talking about. There are many coaches that definitely have favorites, for various reasons. Each school is different, so you can't generalize, like you just ignorantly did. If anyone's a blind moron here, it's you (not to mention immature, and classless)."
Who is the moron, where does it say ALL varsity coaches,if you are going to put a word in caps that you claim someone posted make sure they actually did.I have yet to see the varsity coach that does not want to win a game just because they don't agree with mommy that her daughter is a starter does not mean they want to lose. Name the coach that does not want to win and also name the coach that does not play favorites , they all do. Hey moron any coach that puts starters on the field is playing favorites.
Sorry, but you're still clearly the moron here. The more you type, the more you prove it.
Don't be sorry that you are so clueless, understand your kid is not very good and you need to blame politics as to why she does not play. The reason she does not play is you tell her it's unfair that she is sitting on the bench when what you should be telling her is too learn how to use her left hand , work harder, stop making excuses and most importantly stop listening to you .
Again, no idea what you're talking about. I'm not blaming politics, or anything else. We were talking about how some of the HS coaches don't always play the best players, due to various reasons. If you disagree with that, you're clueless. This has nothing to do with my daughter, who's a lefty moron...your posts tell me how ignorant you are, and you're not even really understanding the issue, so never mind. I'm done with you. IGNORANCE IS BLISS. (I know you don't know what that means, but other people do)
8th and 9th graders shouldn't be hanging out with seniors in their cars, with boys and parties.
The youngsters just aren't ready. its about more than lacrosse.
I agree. It's 7th graders (12 yrs old) too!
8th and 9th graders shouldn't be hanging out with seniors in their cars, with boys and parties.
The youngsters just aren't ready. its about more than lacrosse.
I agree. It's 7th graders (12 yrs old) too!
Younger girls playing up means they share the field with the older girls, it doesn't mean they magically turn into upper classmen. The coach should control the environment at games/practice, on the bus and in the locker room, parents should control social activities outside of lacrosse. In a properly controlled program there should be no issues with younger girls playing up. If there are issues it falls on the coaches and the parents failure to monitor and control the situation.
8th and 9th graders shouldn't be hanging out with seniors in their cars, with boys and parties.
The youngsters just aren't ready. its about more than lacrosse.
I agree. It's 7th graders (12 yrs old) too!
Younger girls playing up means they share the field with the older girls, it doesn't mean they magically turn into upper classmen. The coach should control the environment at games/practice, on the bus and in the locker room, parents should control social activities outside of lacrosse. In a properly controlled program there should be no issues with younger girls playing up. If there are issues it falls on the coaches and the parents failure to monitor and control the situation.
did you get that out of a text book? get real
8th and 9th graders shouldn't be hanging out with seniors in their cars, with boys and parties.
The youngsters just aren't ready. its about more than lacrosse.
I agree. It's 7th graders (12 yrs old) too!
Younger girls playing up means they share the field with the older girls, it doesn't mean they magically turn into upper classmen. The coach should control the environment at games/practice, on the bus and in the locker room, parents should control social activities outside of lacrosse. In a properly controlled program there should be no issues with younger girls playing up. If there are issues it falls on the coaches and the parents failure to monitor and control the situation.
did you get that out of a text book? get real
Nope, been there, done that, no problems.
8th and 9th graders shouldn't be hanging out with seniors in their cars, with boys and parties.
The youngsters just aren't ready. its about more than lacrosse.
I agree. It's 7th graders (12 yrs old) too!
Younger girls playing up means they share the field with the older girls, it doesn't mean they magically turn into upper classmen. The coach should control the environment at games/practice, on the bus and in the locker room, parents should control social activities outside of lacrosse. In a properly controlled program there should be no issues with younger girls playing up. If there are issues it falls on the coaches and the parents failure to monitor and control the situation.
What perfect dream world are you living in?
8th and 9th graders shouldn't be hanging out with seniors in their cars, with boys and parties.
The youngsters just aren't ready. its about more than lacrosse.
I agree. It's 7th graders (12 yrs old) too!
Younger girls playing up means they share the field with the older girls, it doesn't mean they magically turn into upper classmen. The coach should control the environment at games/practice, on the bus and in the locker room, parents should control social activities outside of lacrosse. In a properly controlled program there should be no issues with younger girls playing up. If there are issues it falls on the coaches and the parents failure to monitor and control the situation.
Obviously every situation is different. This will depend hugely on the kid. Some kids will always do the right thing in nearly all situations. If your kid is physically up to the task and you feel comfortable with them playing up, that's awesome, do it. Obviously some people don't feel comfortable with it, don't do it. I'm sure not all the cases of girls playing up are ideal, but don't try to generalize and say no girls should play up, many of them end up being the best players on the team, with none of the negative stuff people are worried about ever happening.
Too funny , you people are all mental, the school district we are in 7-12 graders ride the busses together . Have not heard of any issues w this .
Why is it when my daughter is asked what colleges she is applying to she smiles and gives you a list but when you ask a travel player (while playing for HS team) they are so secretive? Another reason it hard to root for them. Very sad
Maybe its none of your business where they are looking, stop getting into other peoples business.
With answers like this you wonder why you stand alone watching games?
I, for one enjoy watching the game alone... and stand to the side on purpose... I don't miss your conversation..
Thats a shame that you can't share in your communities school district spirit, thats what it is all about, its not just about you and your daughter.
Do realize this will all be over some day soon? Make some friends from town
You echo MY sentiments exactly. That sounds sad. Seems to be the exact opposite of what rewarding spectatorship should be, for so many reasons.
Bay Shore @ West Babylon injuries for BS, could be close one
West Islip @ Northport WI rolls, by 5
East Islip @ Ward Melville EI to strong, by 5
Sachem East @ Middle Country SE by 5
H H Hills @ North Babylon HHH best of the worst
Smithtown East @ Commack HS SE by 10
Smithtown West @ Connetquot SW by 10
William Floyd @ Walt Whitman toss up
Sachem North @ Patchogue-Medford PM by 5
Longwood @ Brentwood Wood by 10
Riverhead @ Copiague River by 10
More predictions , Riverhead shows no mercy and have someone set the record for goals in a game by a Riverhead player.
Smithtown East has stat builder run up her numbers against a weak Commack D.
Longwood shows no mercy and have their stat builder get a record day.
WB by 4 over Bayshore
West Babylon won 12-11, tough game but exciting!
West Babylon won 12-11, tough game but exciting!
West Islip won 11-6 , I heard Northport gave up in the last 3 minutes?!
Bay Shore @ West Babylon injuries for BS, could be close one
West Islip @ Northport WI rolls, by 5
East Islip @ Ward Melville EI to strong, by 5
Sachem East @ Middle Country SE by 5
H H Hills @ North Babylon HHH best of the worst
Smithtown East @ Commack HS SE by 10
Smithtown West @ Connetquot SW by 10
William Floyd @ Walt Whitman toss up
Sachem North @ Patchogue-Medford PM by 5
Longwood @ Brentwood Wood by 10
Riverhead @ Copiague River by 10
You were just a little off with some of those predictions. MC beat East Islip by 6 the other day. why would u assume east islip would beat ward Melville?
[quote=Anonymous]West Babylon won 12-11, tough game but exciting!
West Islip won 11-6 , I heard Northport gave up in the last 3 minutes?! [/quote
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West Babylon won 12-11, tough game but exciting!
West Islip won 11-6 , I heard Northport gave up in the last 3 minutes?!
Heard NPT coach got hit with a pail of water and melted...
Ward Melville by one over East Islip. E.I. not strong enough
It's very sad and obvious that all you parents talking about these amazing athletes are jealous and your kids clearly are trailing the pack athletically.
These committed athletes train all year round and are dedicated to being the best. I am sure that if your kid was called by a top D1 school you would all be singing a different tune. Grow up and stop being pathetic jealous parents with nothing better to do than talk about innocent kids. Focus on your kids training they obviously need some. Lots of luck, clearly you need it.
It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!,
FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME THAN PICK ON A 15 year old innocent girl. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Not sure how selfish individual play at the expense of team was viewed as singling anyone out. Sounds like a very general statement that imo unfortunately fits many.
[quote=Anonymous]It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!, [/quote
So says the ball hogs mom . Everyone knows this kid is building her stats against weaker teams ,scoring tons of points in games her team does not need her to do so. Teamates , parents, coaches from high school and her travel teams know that the kid is all about getting hers if it helps the team or not she does not care. On a semi positive note her parents are very upfront that they believe she is the best player in her age and are not shy about letting people know everything should go thru her in their minds, at least they are honest about it.
It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!,
That's quite a blanket statement for yj players. Maybe the top half dozen from blue and one or two from fake blue would be considered among the top in country. Many of the lower team kids still can't catch/ throw, and will never progress to that point. Seriously some of the best and some of the worst players on our town and school teams are yj, same goes for TG. It is funny when a group of opposing girls show up all decked out head to toe in YJ gear, used to be scarey, now you don't know what you'll get.
Best player from ei was out.
I think they are talking about SE
I think they are talking about SE
You think travel ball hogs are just on one team? Every team has them and it keeps getting worse in both Suffolk and Nassau. Look for the parents sitting by themselves and then you will figure out who the club players are.
Eastport/SManor @ Babylon bab injury a killer, ESM by 10
Harborfields @ Islip Ill go Islip, by 10
Hampton Bays @ Mercy who really cares, what county are they in
Elwood/J Glenn @ Deer Park Elwood by 5
Miller Place @ Kings Park either way
Mt Sinai @ Sayville mt sinai beats good sayville team
Massapequa @ West Babylon wb by 5
North Shore @ Northport North Shore beats the quiters by 5
Suffern @ Bay Shore
(POSTPONED RESCHEDULE TBA) bayshore chickens out, postpones
Patchogue-Medford @ Sachem East Se by 5 if healthy
Shoreham WR @ Huntington strong Huntinton by a lot, swr no D
Westhampton @ Comsewogue WH by 10
Ward Melville @ Smithtown East SE by 7
Walt Whitman @ Sachem North SN over WW by 10
I think they are talking about SE
You think travel ball hogs are just on one team? Every team has them and it keeps getting worse in both Suffolk and Nassau. Look for the parents sitting by themselves and then you will figure out who the club players are.
Look for the players on the field who can't throw, catch, shoot, pass, defend, dodge, switch hands, run, and you will know who the non club players are. Oh wait, the clubs have become so diluted that half of them can't play either. Many of these players are skulled beyond mommy comprehension.
Eastport/SManor @ Babylon bab injury a killer, ESM by 10
Harborfields @ Islip Ill go Islip, by 10
Hampton Bays @ Mercy who really cares, what county are they in
Elwood/J Glenn @ Deer Park Elwood by 5
Miller Place @ Kings Park either way
Mt Sinai @ Sayville mt sinai beats good sayville team
Massapequa @ West Babylon wb by 5
North Shore @ Northport North Shore beats the quiters by 5
Suffern @ Bay Shore
(POSTPONED RESCHEDULE TBA) bayshore chickens out, postpones
Patchogue-Medford @ Sachem East Se by 5 if healthy
Shoreham WR @ Huntington strong Huntinton by a lot, swr no D
Westhampton @ Comsewogue WH by 10
Ward Melville @ Smithtown East SE by 7
Walt Whitman @ Sachem North SN over WW by 10
Why wouldn't sachem east be healthy??
Eastport/SManor @ Babylon bab injury a killer, ESM by 10
Harborfields @ Islip Ill go Islip, by 10
Hampton Bays @ Mercy who really cares, what county are they in
Elwood/J Glenn @ Deer Park Elwood by 5
Miller Place @ Kings Park either way
Mt Sinai @ Sayville mt sinai beats good sayville team
Massapequa @ West Babylon wb by 5
North Shore @ Northport North Shore beats the quiters by 5
Suffern @ Bay Shore
(POSTPONED RESCHEDULE TBA) bayshore chickens out, postpones
Patchogue-Medford @ Sachem East Se by 5 if healthy
Shoreham WR @ Huntington strong Huntinton by a lot, swr no D
Westhampton @ Comsewogue WH by 10
Ward Melville @ Smithtown East SE by 7
Walt Whitman @ Sachem North SN over WW by 10
Why do you never post your suits just your predictions? A good handicapper evaluates his right and wrong predictions. Take your posts to the next level Jimmy the Greek.
Best player from ei was out.
. No excuses EI
Any results from today's games?
Predictions off again. WM beat Smith town E easily 15-7. No players missing.
How did the stat builders do?
Any results from today's games?
Tough day for YJ's. Northport loses to Northshore 9-2.
I think they are talking about SE
You think travel ball hogs are just on one team? Every team has them and it keeps getting worse in both Suffolk and Nassau. Look for the parents sitting by themselves and then you will figure out who the club players are.
Look for the players on the field who can't throw, catch, shoot, pass, defend, dodge, switch hands, run, and you will know who the non club players are. Oh wait, the clubs have become so diluted that half of them can't play either. Many of these players are skulled beyond mommy comprehension.
I have to say I'm not impressed with our club players so you might be right on the dilution. They all force going to the cage and turn the ball over. Can't make fun of the non club girls for not catching and throwing if the club girls are turning the ball over too. The parents of club girls told me they could win games single handily, not happening
Any results from today's games?
Tough day for YJ's. Northport loses to Northshore 9-2.
at what point in the game did the quitters quit?
I think they are talking about SE
You think travel ball hogs are just on one team? Every team has them and it keeps getting worse in both Suffolk and Nassau. Look for the parents sitting by themselves and then you will figure out who the club players are.
Look for the players on the field who can't throw, catch, shoot, pass, defend, dodge, switch hands, run, and you will know who the non club players are. Oh wait, the clubs have become so diluted that half of them can't play either. Many of these players are skulled beyond mommy comprehension.
I have to say I'm not impressed with our club players so you might be right on the dilution. They all force going to the cage and turn the ball over. Can't make fun of the non club girls for not catching and throwing if the club girls are turning the ball over too. The parents of club girls told me they could win games single handily, not happening
This starts in PAL. Club girls thinking they are already the best, don't pass to anyone but another club kid, force it to goal and lose the ball. It starts with the parents thinking just cause they play club they are better and they teach that to there kids.
I think they are talking about SE
You think travel ball hogs are just on one team? Every team has them and it keeps getting worse in both Suffolk and Nassau. Look for the parents sitting by themselves and then you will figure out who the club players are.
Look for the players on the field who can't throw, catch, shoot, pass, defend, dodge, switch hands, run, and you will know who the non club players are. Oh wait, the clubs have become so diluted that half of them can't play either. Many of these players are skulled beyond mommy comprehension.
I have to say I'm not impressed with our club players so you might be right on the dilution. They all force going to the cage and turn the ball over. Can't make fun of the non club girls for not catching and throwing if the club girls are turning the ball over too. The parents of club girls told me they could win games single handily, not happening
This starts in PAL. Club girls thinking they are already the best, don't pass to anyone but another club kid, force it to goal and lose the ball. It starts with the parents thinking just cause they play club they are better and they teach that to there kids.
Yeah, but the flip side is some of those PAL players literally can't catch or throw, they are just there for the social aspect. Okay, fine, but it does create a situation of very mismatched skillsets. And woe betide any PAL coaches who try to create an A team and a B team, our lax community went ballistic when that was attempted.
I think they are talking about SE
You think travel ball hogs are just on one team? Every team has them and it keeps getting worse in both Suffolk and Nassau. Look for the parents sitting by themselves and then you will figure out who the club players are.
Look for the players on the field who can't throw, catch, shoot, pass, defend, dodge, switch hands, run, and you will know who the non club players are. Oh wait, the clubs have become so diluted that half of them can't play either. Many of these players are skulled beyond mommy comprehension.
I have to say I'm not impressed with our club players so you might be right on the dilution. They all force going to the cage and turn the ball over. Can't make fun of the non club girls for not catching and throwing if the club girls are turning the ball over too. The parents of club girls told me they could win games single handily, not happening
This starts in PAL. Club girls thinking they are already the best, don't pass to anyone but another club kid, force it to goal and lose the ball. It starts with the parents thinking just cause they play club they are better and they teach that to there kids.
Yeah, but the flip side is some of those PAL players literally can't catch or throw, they are just there for the social aspect. Okay, fine, but it does create a situation of very mismatched skillsets. And woe betide any PAL coaches who try to create an A team and a B team, our lax community went ballistic when that was attempted.
2 teams in a PAL age group? Our towns PAL program is dying after being mis managed and catering to the club kids. Lots of good athletes are walking away
Any results from today's games?
Tough day for YJ's. Northport loses to Northshore 9-2.
at what point in the game did the quitters quit?
stick-check
Manhasset loses to Notre Dame Prep 6-5. LI refs had a tough day.
I think they are talking about SE
You think travel ball hogs are just on one team? Every team has them and it keeps getting worse in both Suffolk and Nassau. Look for the parents sitting by themselves and then you will figure out who the club players are.
Look for the players on the field who can't throw, catch, shoot, pass, defend, dodge, switch hands, run, and you will know who the non club players are. Oh wait, the clubs have become so diluted that half of them can't play either. Many of these players are skulled beyond mommy comprehension.
I have to say I'm not impressed with our club players so you might be right on the dilution. They all force going to the cage and turn the ball over. Can't make fun of the non club girls for not catching and throwing if the club girls are turning the ball over too. The parents of club girls told me they could win games single handily, not happening
This starts in PAL. Club girls thinking they are already the best, don't pass to anyone but another club kid, force it to goal and lose the ball. It starts with the parents thinking just cause they play club they are better and they teach that to there kids.
Town kids who participate in travel greatly enhance many teams. Any and every good team I can think of is littered with travel kids. That certainly doesn't mean all the travel girls are good, some are horrible. It also doesn't mean the girls who don't play travel are necessarily bad, but just like anything else in life, those who spend more time doing something at a higher level often makes them better at it than those who do not.
I think they are talking about SE
You think travel ball hogs are just on one team? Every team has them and it keeps getting worse in both Suffolk and Nassau. Look for the parents sitting by themselves and then you will figure out who the club players are.
Look for the players on the field who can't throw, catch, shoot, pass, defend, dodge, switch hands, run, and you will know who the non club players are. Oh wait, the clubs have become so diluted that half of them can't play either. Many of these players are skulled beyond mommy comprehension.
I have to say I'm not impressed with our club players so you might be right on the dilution. They all force going to the cage and turn the ball over. Can't make fun of the non club girls for not catching and throwing if the club girls are turning the ball over too. The parents of club girls told me they could win games single handily, not happening
This starts in PAL. Club girls thinking they are already the best, don't pass to anyone but another club kid, force it to goal and lose the ball. It starts with the parents thinking just cause they play club they are better and they teach that to there kids.
Town kids who participate in travel greatly enhance many teams. Any and every good team I can think of is littered with travel kids. That certainly doesn't mean all the travel girls are good, some are horrible. It also doesn't mean the girls who don't play travel are necessarily bad, but just like anything else in life, those who spend more time doing something at a higher level often makes them better at it than those who do not.
I think that non-travel parents are frustrated with the travel kids because on average, they are much better that non-travel (there are exceptions!)
Remember these kids invested countless hours and dollars on training. There families sacrificed vacations and other luxuries to get there girls to this point. It's ok that some don't want to make that kind of investment, but you can't be mad that your daughter isn't playing if you don't make lacrosse a priority in your life. It works this way with most things in life!
Did Newsday really need to write an article about CSH's trip to California where they played terrible competition?
Did Newsday really need to write an article about CSH's trip to California where they played terrible competition?
Sounds like it was more about a vacation than competition. KIds probably had a pick in the destination and vetoed the poconos when they could have been with the family in the cayman islands
Had a chance to watch St. Anthony's play a very over matched Holy Trinity Team today and was very impressed with how the friars won with dignity and class. Game was14-3 at halftime and ended 15-3 ,starters were out by half way thru the first and coaching staff managed to not embarrass their opponent. Also kudos to their goalie for for a very sportsmen like gesture when she knelt to see if an injured girl was ok.
st Anthonys should be ashamed of themselves for only beating a town team ( Farmingdale by 1 goal). You are a select team from every town on Long Island. shame on you ... Go Dalers
Had a chance to watch St. Anthony's play a very over matched Holy Trinity Team today and was very impressed with how the friars won with dignity and class. Game was14-3 at halftime and ended 15-3 ,starters were out by half way thru the first and coaching staff managed to not embarrass their opponent. Also kudos to their goalie for for a very sportsmen like gesture when she knelt to see if an injured girl was ok.
Total class. This new coach is impressive with her lacrosse acumen and the way she carries herself. She is a great role model to these high school girls.
st Anthonys should be ashamed of themselves for only beating a town team ( Farmingdale by 1 goal). You are a select team from every town on Long Island. shame on you ... Go Dalers
ashamed of themselves? They won against a strong team (farmingdale).
Why do some of these town teams have such an issue with St Anthony girls team?
Farmingdale, Manhasset, GC are all great teams too, so just enjoy the local high--end competition.
st Anthonys should be ashamed of themselves for only beating a town team ( Farmingdale by 1 goal). You are a select team from every town on Long Island. shame on you ... Go Dalers
ashamed of themselves? They won against a strong team (farmingdale).
Why do some of these town teams have such an issue with St Anthony girls team?
Farmingdale, Manhasset, GC are all great teams too, so just enjoy the local high--end competition.
I would not say it was a Town maybe individual Parents my daughter plays Public has friends on St Ants. good for the girls who choose to go there and play do we miss them yeah but as I said good for them.
st Anthonys should be ashamed of themselves for only beating a town team ( Farmingdale by 1 goal). You are a select team from every town on Long Island. shame on you ... Go Dalers
ashamed of themselves? They won against a strong team (farmingdale).
Why do some of these town teams have such an issue with St Anthony girls team?
Farmingdale, Manhasset, GC are all great teams too, so just enjoy the local high--end competition.
Its essentially a summer travel team vs a summer town team argument. Also some of these coaches have spent countless hours developing kids only to have them leave the program. I could see the frustration of a coach who brings a kid with a lot of potential up in 8th grade and works them into games etc, only to have them leave.That being said who cares its not like St.Anthony is standing in your way of a state championship.
[quote=Anonymous]It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!, [/quote
So says the ball hogs mom . Everyone knows this kid is building her stats against weaker teams ,scoring tons of points in games her team does not need her to do so. Teamates , parents, coaches from high school and her travel teams know that the kid is all about getting hers if it helps the team or not she does not care. On a semi positive note her parents are very upfront that they believe she is the best player in her age and are not shy about letting people know everything should go thru her in their minds, at least they are honest about it.
This poster hit right on the head! Parents get into the kids ear and the kid does what mommy and daddy say. Very selfish on this families part, the let me get mine mentality has spilled into our community that's why people don't care for you and what you are bringing to our high school "TEAM". It is my understanding that the sentiment has also rolled over to her YJ team as well, too good to attend all of the "YJ" tourneys "why waste my time". What happened stick it out until all of your "YJ" teammates get recruited. CR better tighten up her ship
[quote=Anonymous]It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!, [/quote
So says the ball hogs mom . Everyone knows this kid is building her stats against weaker teams ,scoring tons of points in games her team does not need her to do so. Teamates , parents, coaches from high school and her travel teams know that the kid is all about getting hers if it helps the team or not she does not care. On a semi positive note her parents are very upfront that they believe she is the best player in her age and are not shy about letting people know everything should go thru her in their minds, at least they are honest about it.
This poster hit right on the head! Parents get into the kids ear and the kid does what mommy and daddy say. Very selfish on this families part, the let me get mine mentality has spilled into our community that's why people don't care for you and what you are bringing to our high school "TEAM". It is my understanding that the sentiment has also rolled over to her YJ team as well, too good to attend all of the "YJ" tourneys "why waste my time". What happened stick it out until all of your "YJ" teammates get recruited. CR better tighten up her ship
We see it on our team, when one girl gets hot, the other travel girls start pressing and their parents start pacing! Nothing worse than losing and watching selfish play. If you are going to go down, go with good team chemistry and a nice parents sideline.
[quote=Anonymous]It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!, [/quote
So says the ball hogs mom . Everyone knows this kid is building her stats against weaker teams ,scoring tons of points in games her team does not need her to do so. Teamates , parents, coaches from high school and her travel teams know that the kid is all about getting hers if it helps the team or not she does not care. On a semi positive note her parents are very upfront that they believe she is the best player in her age and are not shy about letting people know everything should go thru her in their minds, at least they are honest about it.
This poster hit right on the head! Parents get into the kids ear and the kid does what mommy and daddy say. Very selfish on this families part, the let me get mine mentality has spilled into our community that's why people don't care for you and what you are bringing to our high school "TEAM". It is my understanding that the sentiment has also rolled over to her YJ team as well, too good to attend all of the "YJ" tourneys "why waste my time". What happened stick it out until all of your "YJ" teammates get recruited. CR better tighten up her ship
What eventually happens is the other kids on the team both travel and high school end up knowing the kid is only out to get hers and just stop passing to her. In the end it all hurts the team but that is what you get when one kid is all about herself and the coaches allow it. look at the leader board for scoring you have kids with 10x more goals than assists,sorry but kids with that ratio are ball hogs.The best kids are great players who make the kids around them better.
[quote=Anonymous]It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!, [/quote
So says the ball hogs mom . Everyone knows this kid is building her stats against weaker teams ,scoring tons of points in games her team does not need her to do so. Teamates , parents, coaches from high school and her travel teams know that the kid is all about getting hers if it helps the team or not she does not care. On a semi positive note her parents are very upfront that they believe she is the best player in her age and are not shy about letting people know everything should go thru her in their minds, at least they are honest about it.
This poster hit right on the head! Parents get into the kids ear and the kid does what mommy and daddy say. Very selfish on this families part, the let me get mine mentality has spilled into our community that's why people don't care for you and what you are bringing to our high school "TEAM". It is my understanding that the sentiment has also rolled over to her YJ team as well, too good to attend all of the "YJ" tourneys "why waste my time". What happened stick it out until all of your "YJ" teammates get recruited. CR better tighten up her ship
What eventually happens is the other kids on the team both travel and high school end up knowing the kid is only out to get hers and just stop passing to her. In the end it all hurts the team but that is what you get when one kid is all about herself and the coaches allow it. look at the leader board for scoring you have kids with 10x more goals than assists,sorry but kids with that ratio are ball hogs.The best kids are great players who make the kids around them better.
On our team the coach runs play after play for her "anointed ones" who also happen to play on her travel team.
[quote=Anonymous]It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!, [/quote
So says the ball hogs mom . Everyone knows this kid is building her stats against weaker teams ,scoring tons of points in games her team does not need her to do so. Teamates , parents, coaches from high school and her travel teams know that the kid is all about getting hers if it helps the team or not she does not care. On a semi positive note her parents are very upfront that they believe she is the best player in her age and are not shy about letting people know everything should go thru her in their minds, at least they are honest about it.
This poster hit right on the head! Parents get into the kids ear and the kid does what mommy and daddy say. Very selfish on this families part, the let me get mine mentality has spilled into our community that's why people don't care for you and what you are bringing to our high school "TEAM". It is my understanding that the sentiment has also rolled over to her YJ team as well, too good to attend all of the "YJ" tourneys "why waste my time". What happened stick it out until all of your "YJ" teammates get recruited. CR better tighten up her ship
What eventually happens is the other kids on the team both travel and high school end up knowing the kid is only out to get hers and just stop passing to her. In the end it all hurts the team but that is what you get when one kid is all about herself and the coaches allow it. look at the leader board for scoring you have kids with 10x more goals than assists,sorry but kids with that ratio are ball hogs.The best kids are great players who make the kids around them better.
On our team the coach runs play after play for her "anointed ones" who also happen to play on her travel team.
How's that working out for the team? Looks like 3 loses!
You talk about pathetic jealous parents talking about "innocent kids", the go on to say your "athletes" are not exactly athletes and "train your kids". What about the "innocent kids" who's parents can't afford or have the time to take their kids all the camps, clinics, private lessons, and travel programs. I guess they can't play for their school team either, no one will ever pass them the ball. The days of just trying out for a sport/team she enjoys are over. Lacrosse has turned into a sport for the middle to upper class, where you can buy skill.
[quote=Anonymous]It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!, [/quote
So says the ball hogs mom . Everyone knows this kid is building her stats against weaker teams ,scoring tons of points in games her team does not need her to do so. Teamates , parents, coaches from high school and her travel teams know that the kid is all about getting hers if it helps the team or not she does not care. On a semi positive note her parents are very upfront that they believe she is the best player in her age and are not shy about letting people know everything should go thru her in their minds, at least they are honest about it.
This poster hit right on the head! Parents get into the kids ear and the kid does what mommy and daddy say. Very selfish on this families part, the let me get mine mentality has spilled into our community that's why people don't care for you and what you are bringing to our high school "TEAM". It is my understanding that the sentiment has also rolled over to her YJ team as well, too good to attend all of the "YJ" tourneys "why waste my time". What happened stick it out until all of your "YJ" teammates get recruited. CR better tighten up her ship
What eventually happens is the other kids on the team both travel and high school end up knowing the kid is only out to get hers and just stop passing to her. In the end it all hurts the team but that is what you get when one kid is all about herself and the coaches allow it. look at the leader board for scoring you have kids with 10x more goals than assists,sorry but kids with that ratio are ball hogs.The best kids are great players who make the kids around them better.
Westhampton
You talk about pathetic jealous parents talking about "innocent kids", the go on to say your "athletes" are not exactly athletes and "train your kids". What about the "innocent kids" who's parents can't afford or have the time to take their kids all the camps, clinics, private lessons, and travel programs. I guess they can't play for their school team either, no one will ever pass them the ball. The days of just trying out for a sport/team she enjoys are over. Lacrosse has turned into a sport for the middle to upper class, where you can buy skill.
I'm calling bs on that comment. My kid is from a middle class family that goes paycheck to paycheck. When she was in 4th grade I took her to the local school 3 days a week and had her play wall ball for 45 min . It was free and has made her into a kid with great stick skills . All for free.
especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country.
at what age are they the best in the country? I think some other teams have won the championships in Florida the last couple years, not the yellow jackets. where do you get your facts?
what do you mean by Westhampton?
How about we get back to the HS games instead of picking on individual players? How are this weeks match ups playing out?
tomorrow will be a big day for some
[quote=Anonymous]It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!, [/quote
So says the ball hogs mom . Everyone knows this kid is building her stats against weaker teams ,scoring tons of points in games her team does not need her to do so. Teamates , parents, coaches from high school and her travel teams know that the kid is all about getting hers if it helps the team or not she does not care. On a semi positive note her parents are very upfront that they believe she is the best player in her age and are not shy about letting people know everything should go thru her in their minds, at least they are honest about it.
This poster hit right on the head! Parents get into the kids ear and the kid does what mommy and daddy say. Very selfish on this families part, the let me get mine mentality has spilled into our community that's why people don't care for you and what you are bringing to our high school "TEAM". It is my understanding that the sentiment has also rolled over to her YJ team as well, too good to attend all of the "YJ" tourneys "why waste my time". What happened stick it out until all of your "YJ" teammates get recruited. CR better tighten up her ship
What eventually happens is the other kids on the team both travel and high school end up knowing the kid is only out to get hers and just stop passing to her. In the end it all hurts the team but that is what you get when one kid is all about herself and the coaches allow it. look at the leader board for scoring you have kids with 10x more goals than assists,sorry but kids with that ratio are ball hogs.The best kids are great players who make the kids around them better.
Westhampton
Unless you are at every game for a particular school you do not really have any right to call any individual a ball hog based off numbers you see on Newsday. Are you taking into consideration shot %? Or how about whether or not the goals they score are assisted on? Just because someone is high on goals, doesn't mean they are hogging the ball. If they are getting open and putting the ball away, then good on them! There are many more stats that need to be taken into consideration. Is the team winning? Are they competing with the top teams in the division? We all need to stop being so black and white. In the game of lacrosse, there is a lot of gray area.
On our team we now have pissed off upper classman YJ's with underclassman YJ's. When the uppers came through the last couple of years we all had to eat it. Now they are eating it and they aren't happy. See we told you it didn't feel too good.
If they are getting open and putting the ball away, then good on them! There are many more stats that need to be taken into consideration.
And that pretty much is not going to happen when playing a higher level team. It's pretty darn rare for anyone to get through a good defense. This is why the numbers-girls run up their stats while playing weaker teams, because they can't when they're playing the stronger teams.
especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country.
at what age are they the best in the country? I think some other teams have won the championships in Florida the last couple years, not the yellow jackets. where do you get your facts?
Not sure of many age groups but YJ has the best players in the 2016 age group. They have beaten TG 2016 every time they have played (4-5 times), they have beaten MD the last 4-5 times they have played, beaten Heroes every time. Yes they have not won the Florida tournament so if you want to say TG is best U15 team based on that one tournament go ahead , the only issue is that is not an actual team that plays together ever again.
[quote=Anonymous]It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!, [/quote
So says the ball hogs mom . Everyone knows this kid is building her stats against weaker teams ,scoring tons of points in games her team does not need her to do so. Teamates , parents, coaches from high school and her travel teams know that the kid is all about getting hers if it helps the team or not she does not care. On a semi positive note her parents are very upfront that they believe she is the best player in her age and are not shy about letting people know everything should go thru her in their minds, at least they are honest about it.
This poster hit right on the head! Parents get into the kids ear and the kid does what mommy and daddy say. Very selfish on this families part, the let me get mine mentality has spilled into our community that's why people don't care for you and what you are bringing to our high school "TEAM". It is my understanding that the sentiment has also rolled over to her YJ team as well, too good to attend all of the "YJ" tourneys "why waste my time". What happened stick it out until all of your "YJ" teammates get recruited. CR better tighten up her ship
What eventually happens is the other kids on the team both travel and high school end up knowing the kid is only out to get hers and just stop passing to her. In the end it all hurts the team but that is what you get when one kid is all about herself and the coaches allow it. look at the leader board for scoring you have kids with 10x more goals than assists,sorry but kids with that ratio are ball hogs.The best kids are great players who make the kids around them better.
Westhampton
Unless you are at every game for a particular school you do not really have any right to call any individual a ball hog based off numbers you see on Newsday. Are you taking into consideration shot %? Or how about whether or not the goals they score are assisted on? Just because someone is high on goals, doesn't mean they are hogging the ball. If they are getting open and putting the ball away, then good on them! There are many more stats that need to be taken into consideration. Is the team winning? Are they competing with the top teams in the division? We all need to stop being so black and white. In the game of lacrosse, there is a lot of gray area.
60 goals and 6 assists. Any opinions on this statistic? Ball hog? Stat padder?
especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country.
at what age are they the best in the country? I think some other teams have won the championships in Florida the last couple years, not the yellow jackets. where do you get your facts?
Not sure of many age groups but YJ has the best players in the 2016 age group. They have beaten TG 2016 every time they have played (4-5 times), they have beaten MD the last 4-5 times they have played, beaten Heroes every time. Yes they have not won the Florida tournament so if you want to say TG is best U15 team based on that one tournament go ahead , the only issue is that is not an actual team that plays together ever again.
I have to agree with the above... TG daddy
Yj beat TG by 1 goal twice. TG beatup YJ in u15 national championships ( the biggest tourney of the year) thats why its called u15 national championships. did anyone ask about MD or Heroes . get a grip YJ parent. and where is yout YJ kid going to college? i didnt think so.
Games today that mean something
Middle Country @ Bay Shore Bayshore bounces back
Ward Melville @ West Islip WI way to strong by 8
Sachem East @ West Babylon WB wins a close one
East Islip @ Northport Port wins
suffolk allstars beat YJ 2016.
You talk about pathetic jealous parents talking about "innocent kids", the go on to say your "athletes" are not exactly athletes and "train your kids". What about the "innocent kids" who's parents can't afford or have the time to take their kids all the camps, clinics, private lessons, and travel programs. I guess they can't play for their school team either, no one will ever pass them the ball. The days of just trying out for a sport/team she enjoys are over. Lacrosse has turned into a sport for the middle to upper class, where you can buy skill.
I'm calling bs on that comment. My kid is from a middle class family that goes paycheck to paycheck. When she was in 4th grade I took her to the local school 3 days a week and had her play wall ball for 45 min . It was free and has made her into a kid with great stick skills . All for free.
I agree in what your saying however the fact remains true most coaches, especially the ones who coach yello Jackets during the summer and then coach high school teams as well. DO not give their non travel p[layers a second glance or chance. In our district if the YJ girl who is on the blue team screws up the coach doesnt even look to pul;l that kid out, but if the non YJ player or the non blue player screws up she pretty much doesnt see the field at all ever again. I think that high school ADs should start going back to the day where it was a conflict of interest to coach travel over the summer and then your high school team. It is forces people to feel like they need to participate or there kid will be left behind. My daughter chose to work out on her own and sat the bench all four years on her high school varsity team. Even as a committed senior she watched freshman coming and going on the field but never touched it. SHe attended summer camps for the schools she was interested in both academically and athletically and was recruited. SHe currently plays at a middle of the bunch D1 school and is getting more playing time then some of the travel players who spent thousands of dollars getting the same looks. Too much emphasis on the travel programs and the winning at all costs in high school. A girl who loves the sport and is in her junior of college playing and getting a great education at one point almost walked away from the sport becaue a high school coach wouldnt give her the chance.
[quote=Anonymous]It's very sad to hear you pathetic jealous parents talking about innocent kids. LOSERS! These are exceptional, smart athletes that train all year long to strive to play the very best they can. Good for them if they are committed to college early. You are obviously bitter because your so called "athletes " are not exactly athletes. Maybe your kids should train harder. It's just so sad how jealous you all sound, especially of the "yellow jackets" which by the way are the best players in the country. So don't hate.....TRAIN YOUR KIDS! You should focus more on your own kids and not spend so much time on this forum wishing your kid was an athlete. Best of luck!, [/quote
So says the ball hogs mom . Everyone knows this kid is building her stats against weaker teams ,scoring tons of points in games her team does not need her to do so. Teamates , parents, coaches from high school and her travel teams know that the kid is all about getting hers if it helps the team or not she does not care. On a semi positive note her parents are very upfront that they believe she is the best player in her age and are not shy about letting people know everything should go thru her in their minds, at least they are honest about it.
This poster hit right on the head! Parents get into the kids ear and the kid does what mommy and daddy say. Very selfish on this families part, the let me get mine mentality has spilled into our community that's why people don't care for you and what you are bringing to our high school "TEAM". It is my understanding that the sentiment has also rolled over to her YJ team as well, too good to attend all of the "YJ" tourneys "why waste my time". What happened stick it out until all of your "YJ" teammates get recruited. CR better tighten up her ship
What eventually happens is the other kids on the team both travel and high school end up knowing the kid is only out to get hers and just stop passing to her. In the end it all hurts the team but that is what you get when one kid is all about herself and the coaches allow it. look at the leader board for scoring you have kids with 10x more goals than assists,sorry but kids with that ratio are ball hogs.The best kids are great players who make the kids around them better.
Westhampton
Unless you are at every game for a particular school you do not really have any right to call any individual a ball hog based off numbers you see on Newsday. Are you taking into consideration shot %? Or how about whether or not the goals they score are assisted on? Just because someone is high on goals, doesn't mean they are hogging the ball. If they are getting open and putting the ball away, then good on them! There are many more stats that need to be taken into consideration. Is the team winning? Are they competing with the top teams in the division? We all need to stop being so black and white. In the game of lacrosse, there is a lot of gray area.
60 goals and 6 assists. Any opinions on this statistic? Ball hog? Stat padder?
And mom doesn't think they pass enough to her.
Westhampton
60 goals and 6 assists. Any opinions on this statistic? Ball hog? Stat padder?
girl is a shooter, gets ball in 8 , and shoots. simple
Yj beat TG by 1 goal twice. TG beatup YJ in u15 national championships ( the biggest tourney of the year) thats why its called u15 national championships. did anyone ask about MD or Heroes . get a grip YJ parent. and where is yout YJ kid going to college? i didnt think so.
Take this crap off the HS thread put it on the 2016 thread
Yj beat TG by 1 goal twice. TG beatup YJ in u15 national championships ( the biggest tourney of the year) thats why its called u15 national championships. did anyone ask about MD or Heroes . get a grip YJ parent. and where is yout YJ kid going to college? i didnt think so.
Winning by 2 goals is not beating up anyone a TG U-15 Parent
Thanks for your encouragement, my daughter loves the sport and wants to play in college, but is not playing much on varsity as the younger girls are getting lots of time. While my daughter does play travel which she is very happy with, she is not on YJ and our varsity coach is a YJ coach, and definitely favors the YJ girls. The coach asked my daughter who her travel coach was and laughed at her when she said the name, very condescending. And I agree with you the YJ girls make mistakes and never get pulled as other girls do, and never get back in the game. I still don't understand why they don't substitute much, but I'm hearing that's with a lot of girls varsity coaches. It's a big field, girls are winded, jogging, leaning on their sticks and don't get taken out. They need a break, there are plenty of subs, it's not a big dropoff.
Yj beat TG by 1 goal twice. TG beatup YJ in u15 national championships ( the biggest tourney of the year) thats why its called u15 national championships. did anyone ask about MD or Heroes . get a grip YJ parent. and where is yout YJ kid going to college? i didnt think so.
Did anyone ask about TG moron? Yes YJ 2016 has beaten TG in some close games some by 1 goal some by more the point is they have beaten them every time . Yes the TG U15 team won the Florida tournament so they get the U15 championship, still does not change the fact that YJ 2016 has beaten TG 2016 5 x in a row and every game they have ever played.
suffolk allstars beat YJ 2016.
Yes they did but that was a long time ago , the last 2 times they played YJ beat them by 5 plus goals .
Oh... I didn't know it was appropriate to call out specific CHILDREN on here. But since we are, if you have seen HER play, the kid puts away almost every shot she takes. Her % has to be 80 or above. From when we have seen her, she is quick and gets open ALOT. Her teammates look for her cause she puts it away consistently. I've seen her go to goal off transition but only when people don't slide to her. Has she forced shots? I'm sure she probably has, but who doesn't at some point?
Looking at scores, and seeing some of those games myself, padding stats would be if they were killing every team by a ton and she was the only one shooting. Not the case with them or her this year. Most of their games were close at half time and even the stronger teams have not shut her down. Give a consistent shooter some credit.
enough with the yj and tg chatter- don't your own threads provide you enough opportunity to fight over who is better? please spare us- leave this discussion to Girls HS Varsity PLEASE
Yj beat TG by 1 goal twice. TG beatup YJ in u15 national championships ( the biggest tourney of the year) thats why its called u15 national championships. did anyone ask about MD or Heroes . get a grip YJ parent. and where is yout YJ kid going to college? i didnt think so.
Did anyone ask about TG moron? Yes YJ 2016 has beaten TG in some close games some by 1 goal some by more the point is they have beaten them every time . Yes the TG U15 team won the Florida tournament so they get the U15 championship, still does not change the fact that YJ 2016 has beaten TG 2016 5 x in a row and every game they have ever played.
Nobody cares !
Games today that mean something
Middle Country @ Bay Shore Bayshore bounces back
Ward Melville @ West Islip WI way to strong by 8
Sachem East @ West Babylon WB wins a close one
East Islip @ Northport Port wins
ok here we go
BS 13 MC 12 BS has some injuries, in big trouble
WI 12 WM 9 WI defense weak today
WB 10 SE 7 WB wins close one
N 6 EI 5 N wins again
not bad for a rookie if I do say myself
Oh... I didn't know it was appropriate to call out specific CHILDREN on here. But since we are, if you have seen HER play, the kid puts away almost every shot she takes. Her % has to be 80 or above. From when we have seen her, she is quick and gets open ALOT. Her teammates look for her cause she puts it away consistently. I've seen her go to goal off transition but only when people don't slide to her. Has she forced shots? I'm sure she probably has, but who doesn't at some point?
Looking at scores, and seeing some of those games myself, padding stats would be if they were killing every team by a ton and she was the only one shooting. Not the case with them or her this year. Most of their games were close at half time and even the stronger teams have not shut her down. Give a consistent shooter some credit.
Ok Mom
enough with the yj and tg chatter- don't your own threads provide you enough opportunity to fight over who is better? please spare us- leave this discussion to Girls HS Varsity PLEASE
AMEN
[quote=Anonymous]
Westhampton
60 goals and 6 assists. Any opinions on this statistic? Ball hog? Stat padder?
Oh... I didn't know it was appropriate to call out specific CHILDREN on here. But since we are, if you have seen HER play, the kid puts away almost every shot she takes. Her % has to be 80 or above. From when we have seen her, she is quick and gets open ALOT. Her teammates look for her cause she puts it away consistently. I've seen her go to goal off transition but only when people don't slide to her. Has she forced shots? I'm sure she probably has, but who doesn't at some point?
Looking at scores, and seeing some of those games myself, padding stats would be if they were killing every team by a ton and she was the only one shooting. Not the case with them or her this year. Most of their games were close at half time and even the stronger teams have not shut her down. Give a consistent shooter some credit.
Ok Mom
Whether you choose to believe this or not… I have no children in the division at all. I do however, break down a lot of video for various coaches, which is how I have seen some of their games (they have played many of the top teams towards beginning of season). I was directed towards these forums due to the entertainment value and wanted to take the opp to stand up for all the players that should not be brought into any discussion in a negative way.
Oh... I didn't know it was appropriate to call out specific CHILDREN on here. But since we are, if you have seen HER play, the kid puts away almost every shot she takes. Her % has to be 80 or above. From when we have seen her, she is quick and gets open ALOT. Her teammates look for her cause she puts it away consistently. I've seen her go to goal off transition but only when people don't slide to her. Has she forced shots? I'm sure she probably has, but who doesn't at some point?
Looking at scores, and seeing some of those games myself, padding stats would be if they were killing every team by a ton and she was the only one shooting. Not the case with them or her this year. Most of their games were close at half time and even the stronger teams have not shut her down. Give a consistent shooter some credit.
Ok Mom
Whether you choose to believe this or not… I have no children in the division at all. I do however, break down a lot of video for various coaches, which is how I have seen some of their games (they have played many of the top teams towards beginning of season). I was directed towards these forums due to the entertainment value and wanted to take the opp to stand up for all the players that should not be brought into any discussion in a negative way.
I choose not to believe it because my kid plays on that team and she has never met a shot she will not take, shoots from outside the 8 meter consistently .Only involved in the offense when shooting otherwise just runs around in the 8 meter clogging it up for everyone else and when that does not work pop out and shoot from way outside. You can guarantee when she touches it she shoots it.
Oh... I didn't know it was appropriate to call out specific CHILDREN on here. But since we are, if you have seen HER play, the kid puts away almost every shot she takes. Her % has to be 80 or above. From when we have seen her, she is quick and gets open ALOT. Her teammates look for her cause she puts it away consistently. I've seen her go to goal off transition but only when people don't slide to her. Has she forced shots? I'm sure she probably has, but who doesn't at some point?
Looking at scores, and seeing some of those games myself, padding stats would be if they were killing every team by a ton and she was the only one shooting. Not the case with them or her this year. Most of their games were close at half time and even the stronger teams have not shut her down. Give a consistent shooter some credit.
Ok Mom
Whether you choose to believe this or not… I have no children in the division at all. I do however, break down a lot of video for various coaches, which is how I have seen some of their games (they have played many of the top teams towards beginning of season). I was directed towards these forums due to the entertainment value and wanted to take the opp to stand up for all the players that should not be brought into any discussion in a negative way.
I choose not to believe it because my kid plays on that team and she has never met a shot she will not take, shoots from outside the 8 meter consistently .Only involved in the offense when shooting otherwise just runs around in the 8 meter clogging it up for everyone else and when that does not work pop out and shoot from way outside. You can guarantee when she touches it she shoots it.
haha. ok then. What is her shot percentage then? how often do her teammates give her the ball. And has she caused her team to lose any game by hogging the ball? Food for thought. I can't give you those answers since I am not related, nor have I seen every single game. If you are a parent (which I doubt you are) I think it is sad that you are talking about someone from your community and on your daughters team. The downfall of many teams is the parents that cannot seem to get along and are in more competition with each other, then the actual children. I can only hope your daughter is able to talk out her frustrations in person and not behind an online forum. (if in fact your daughter is actually on that team)
I do have a comment. Sometimes teams have a lopsided offense. Perhaps the high scoring girl DOES attempt to feed her teammates and they just can't finish. Without the finishing goal, there is no assist stat. Also, if the same player has an awesome finish, everyone of her teammates can rack up assists because they know if they feed her, she will score. So, I do not believe that a disproportionate ratio of goals and assists automatically deems a player the tag "selfish".
I do have a comment. Sometimes teams have a lopsided offense. Perhaps the high scoring girl DOES attempt to feed her teammates and they just can't finish. Without the finishing goal, there is no assist stat. Also, if the same player has an awesome finish, everyone of her teammates can rack up assists because they know if they feed her, she will score. So, I do not believe that a disproportionate ratio of goals and assists automatically deems a player the tag "selfish".
define "disproportionate ratio". If there is an issue the girls and folks know what is what
Exactly, just because someone has alot of goals doesnt mean they arent passing. Player cant have the assist and goal someone has to convert the pass.
I do have a comment. Sometimes teams have a lopsided offense. Perhaps the high scoring girl DOES attempt to feed her teammates and they just can't finish. Without the finishing goal, there is no assist stat. Also, if the same player has an awesome finish, everyone of her teammates can rack up assists because they know if they feed her, she will score. So, I do not believe that a disproportionate ratio of goals and assists automatically deems a player the tag "selfish".
True, In addition, so many goals are scored off free positions. Some great assists go unrecognized in this game because of shooting space and fouls in the 8m.
The westhampton kid is a soild player, who will be playing at the next level.. the high school game is too easy for her. goals are the easiest stat to track (obviously) do you think that the kids at the table are really paying attention to everything else, between looking at their iphone and talking, we are lucky they get goals right
The westhampton kid is a soild player, who will be playing at the next level.. the high school game is too easy for her. goals are the easiest stat to track (obviously) do you think that the kids at the table are really paying attention to everything else, between looking at their iphone and talking, we are lucky they get goals right
Is this a joke , the high school game is too easy for her, then why has Westhampton lost so many close games. If the game is so easy for this kid she should have thought about challenging herself more at the next level. Dont fool yourselves , go watch any of these kids who have such a high goals to assist ratio and you will find a ball hog, look at Westhamptons stats and there is not alot of pass, catch , shot going on. That being said I do not blame the kid for being a ball hog , maybe the coach tells her to do so, maybe there are few other offensive options on that team. When we played them the kid is a good solid player who has a sister on the team clearly looking to pass to her, if it works I would tell them to continue, 80 % shooting , not even close in our game .High school game too easy for her , not even remotely close.
Exactly right. Also, an assit is recorded if there is little or no steps taken before the shot. Maybe the high scorer is in fact feeding to her teammates and they are scoring "unassisted goals". There would be no documented credit for that play.
So you really can't assume selfishness by stats alone
Div 1 weekend picks
Bay Shore @ Lindenhurst Bayshore 2 in a row, wow
West Islip @ North Babylon WI by 50 if they want
Hauppauge @ East Islip Hauppauge way to strong, by 8
H H Hills @ Sachem East East rolls, by 7
Smithtown West @ Middle Country MC by 5 smith west weak
Walt Whitman @ Longwood Longwood 7 - 2 wow, played nobody
Patchogue-Medford @ Riverhead toss up
Copiague @ Sachem North SN by 10
West Babylon @ Commack HS WB by 7
Div 1 weekend picks
Bay Shore @ Lindenhurst Bayshore 2 in a row, wow
West Islip @ North Babylon WI by 50 if they want
Hauppauge @ East Islip Hauppauge way to strong, by 8
H H Hills @ Sachem East East rolls, by 7
Smithtown West @ Middle Country MC by 5 smith west weak
Walt Whitman @ Longwood Longwood 7 - 2 wow, played nobody
Patchogue-Medford @ Riverhead toss up
Copiague @ Sachem North SN by 10
West Babylon @ Commack HS WB by 7
What about Northport at Connetquot?
Div 1 weekend picks
Bay Shore @ Lindenhurst Bayshore 2 in a row, wow
West Islip @ North Babylon WI by 50 if they want
Hauppauge @ East Islip Hauppauge way to strong, by 8
H H Hills @ Sachem East East rolls, by 7
Smithtown West @ Middle Country MC by 5 smith west weak
Walt Whitman @ Longwood Longwood 7 - 2 wow, played nobody
Patchogue-Medford @ Riverhead toss up
Copiague @ Sachem North SN by 10
West Babylon @ Commack HS WB by 7
What about Northport at Connetquot?
They only pick games that matter!
oh i'm sorry Northport will beat Connetquot by 50 if they want. Connetquot 4 - 4 beat Walt Whitman (2 wins) , brentwood (0 wins) , (Riverhead 3 wins) , Hills (2 wins) and lost to 4 teams by 31 goals. Are you kidding me Connetquot.
Oh... I didn't know it was appropriate to call out specific CHILDREN on here. But since we are, if you have seen HER play, the kid puts away almost every shot she takes. Her % has to be 80 or above. From when we have seen her, she is quick and gets open ALOT. Her teammates look for her cause she puts it away consistently. I've seen her go to goal off transition but only when people don't slide to her. Has she forced shots? I'm sure she probably has, but who doesn't at some point?
Looking at scores, and seeing some of those games myself, padding stats would be if they were killing every team by a ton and she was the only one shooting. Not the case with them or her this year. Most of their games were close at half time and even the stronger teams have not shut her down. Give a consistent shooter some credit.
Ok Mom
Whether you choose to believe this or not… I have no children in the division at all. I do however, break down a lot of video for various coaches, which is how I have seen some of their games (they have played many of the top teams towards beginning of season). I was directed towards these forums due to the entertainment value and wanted to take the opp to stand up for all the players that should not be brought into any discussion in a negative way.
Uh......yeah right.
So...Longwood crushes Copaigue 18-0. Let's see if we get the outcry from this debacle that Smithtown East suffered!!!
The difference is no kid appears to have been left in the game to be a stat builder,.
talk about Stat Builders..the sisters on Islip combined for 23 points in a 19-7 victory over Deer Park.. with one sister accounting for 15 points
The Ball Hog sisters accounted for 17 points tonight against Hampton Bays. Hey coach you should be so proud , grow a set and do what's right. Hey mom and dad if the coach won't do what's right maybe you should . So your ball hog kids scored 17 points against essentially a JV team , any parent who actually believed in their kids abilities would not allow this. Hopefully the Islip AD is not as impotent as the Islip coach , putting up 22 against Hampton Bays , Islip pride at its best.
Oh... I didn't know it was appropriate to call out specific CHILDREN on here. But since we are, if you have seen HER play, the kid puts away almost every shot she takes. Her % has to be 80 or above. From when we have seen her, she is quick and gets open ALOT. Her teammates look for her cause she puts it away consistently. I've seen her go to goal off transition but only when people don't slide to her. Has she forced shots? I'm sure she probably has, but who doesn't at some point?
Looking at scores, and seeing some of those games myself, padding stats would be if they were killing every team by a ton and she was the only one shooting. Not the case with them or her this year. Most of their games were close at half time and even the stronger teams have not shut her down. Give a consistent shooter some credit.
Ok Mom
Whether you choose to believe this or not… I have no children in the division at all. I do however, break down a lot of video for various coaches, which is how I have seen some of their games (they have played many of the top teams towards beginning of season). I was directed towards these forums due to the entertainment value and wanted to take the opp to stand up for all the players that should not be brought into any discussion in a negative way.
I choose not to believe it because my kid plays on that team and she has never met a shot she will not take, shoots from outside the 8 meter consistently .Only involved in the offense when shooting otherwise just runs around in the 8 meter clogging it up for everyone else and when that does not work pop out and shoot from way outside. You can guarantee when she touches it she shoots it.
haha. ok then. What is her shot percentage then? how often do her teammates give her the ball. And has she caused her team to lose any game by hogging the ball? Food for thought. I can't give you those answers since I am not related, nor have I seen every single game. If you are a parent (which I doubt you are) I think it is sad that you are talking about someone from your community and on your daughters team. The downfall of many teams is the parents that cannot seem to get along and are in more competition with each other, then the actual children. I can only hope your daughter is able to talk out her frustrations in person and not behind an online forum. (if in fact your daughter is actually on that team)
"Not related" I don't think so , seems to be a little Freudian slip.
oh i'm sorry Northport will beat Connetquot by 50 if they want. Connetquot 4 - 4 beat Walt Whitman (2 wins) , brentwood (0 wins) , (Riverhead 3 wins) , Hills (2 wins) and lost to 4 teams by 31 goals. Are you kidding me Connetquot.
You're right, but YJ director might take it easy on YJ coach, and not embarrass him. For some reason, Connetquot girls are never a contender...
how did RP lose to SWR?
after going so tuff with nationally ranked Mt Sinai
RP seems to have imploded
oh i'm sorry Northport will beat Connetquot by 50 if they want. Connetquot 4 - 4 beat Walt Whitman (2 wins) , brentwood (0 wins) , (Riverhead 3 wins) , Hills (2 wins) and lost to 4 teams by 31 goals. Are you kidding me Connetquot.
You're right, but YJ director might take it easy on YJ coach, and not embarrass him. For some reason, Connetquot girls are never a contender...
Probably because they've never had a true girls PAL program until recently.
60 G, 6 A. There is no argument. Just accept it. What's the big deal anyway. So the kid scores alot. So what.
Who is favored to win Class B girls this year and why? ESM is clearly favored but there are some teams that can compete with them.
oh i'm sorry Northport will beat Connetquot by 50 if they want. Connetquot 4 - 4 beat Walt Whitman (2 wins) , brentwood (0 wins) , (Riverhead 3 wins) , Hills (2 wins) and lost to 4 teams by 31 goals. Are you kidding me Connetquot.
You're right, but YJ director might take it easy on YJ coach, and not embarrass him. For some reason, Connetquot girls are never a contender...
Makes sense. Which YJ coach is at Connetquot?
Probably because they've never had a true girls PAL program until recently.
60 G, 6 A. There is no argument. Just accept it. What's the big deal anyway. So the kid scores alot. So what.
"The Ball Hog sisters accounted for 17 points tonight against Hampton Bays. Hey coach you should be so proud , grow a set and do what's right. Hey mom and dad if the coach won't do what's right maybe you should . So your ball hog kids scored 17 points against essentially a JV team , any parent who actually believed in their kids abilities would not allow this. Hopefully the Islip AD is not as impotent as the Islip coach , putting up 22 against Hampton Bays , Islip pride at its best."
This is not a SO what. Its plain and simple stat padding and poor sportsmanship. They did not need to have the ball hogs score so many to win that game.Anyone who thinks this type non sense is acceptable should be on the other end of this beat downs.Hopefully Islip will get theirs when they play Mount Sinai, hey Bert how about a faceguard for the ballhogs.
Which YJ coach is at Conetquot?
Who is favored to win Class B girls this year and why? ESM is clearly favored but there are some teams that can compete with them.
Sayville, Huntington.
60 G, 6 A. There is no argument. Just accept it. What's the big deal anyway. So the kid scores alot. So what.
"The Ball Hog sisters accounted for 17 points tonight against Hampton Bays. Hey coach you should be so proud , grow a set and do what's right. Hey mom and dad if the coach won't do what's right maybe you should . So your ball hog kids scored 17 points against essentially a JV team , any parent who actually believed in their kids abilities would not allow this. Hopefully the Islip AD is not as impotent as the Islip coach , putting up 22 against Hampton Bays , Islip pride at its best."
This is not a SO what. Its plain and simple stat padding and poor sportsmanship. They did not need to have the ball hogs score so many to win that game.Anyone who thinks this type non sense is acceptable should be on the other end of this beat downs.Hopefully Islip will get theirs when they play Mount Sinai, hey Bert how about a faceguard for the ballhogs.
60 G, 6 A. There is no argument. Just accept it. What's the big deal anyway. So the kid scores alot. So what.
"The Ball Hog sisters accounted for 17 points tonight against Hampton Bays. Hey coach you should be so proud , grow a set and do what's right. Hey mom and dad if the coach won't do what's right maybe you should . So your ball hog kids scored 17 points against essentially a JV team , any parent who actually believed in their kids abilities would not allow this. Hopefully the Islip AD is not as impotent as the Islip coach , putting up 22 against Hampton Bays , Islip pride at its best."
This is not a SO what. Its plain and simple stat padding and poor sportsmanship. They did not need to have the ball hogs score so many to win that game.Anyone who thinks this type non sense is acceptable should be on the other end of this beat downs.Hopefully Islip will get theirs when they play Mount Sinai, hey Bert how about a faceguard for the ballhogs.
The stat padding discussion was not about Islip. Maybe go take a Valium and relax. Sometimes stronger teams will score alot when playing very weak teams. Been happening since the beginning of time. If your daughter wants the ball she should go get it......not you but her. SHE needs to step up and challenge the Alpha kids. Maybe she doesn't want to and is comfortable being a role player. Either way you need to take it easy and stop bashing these girls. Or maybe we should look at you and criticize your accomplishments because I'm sure you bypassed someone along the way to gain success. Maybe you should have let them get the promotion or better grade etc... That's only fair right?
Why the need to be so derogatory towards such sweet girls. The reality is that this team is never making the counties and the games are the only opportunity for them to be recognizes, which they should be. Stop being jealous and immature and respect the fact that they are doing everything they can to get a medicos team to win.
We all know girls are catty and jealous, this thread proves the parents of girls are too. Give a rest you whining babies
60 G, 6 A. There is no argument. Just accept it. What's the big deal anyway. So the kid scores alot. So what.
"The Ball Hog sisters accounted for 17 points tonight against Hampton Bays. Hey coach you should be so proud , grow a set and do what's right. Hey mom and dad if the coach won't do what's right maybe you should . So your ball hog kids scored 17 points against essentially a JV team , any parent who actually believed in their kids abilities would not allow this. Hopefully the Islip AD is not as impotent as the Islip coach , putting up 22 against Hampton Bays , Islip pride at its best."
This is not a SO what. Its plain and simple stat padding and poor sportsmanship. They did not need to have the ball hogs score so many to win that game.Anyone who thinks this type non sense is acceptable should be on the other end of this beat downs.Hopefully Islip will get theirs when they play Mount Sinai, hey Bert how about a faceguard for the ballhogs.
Screamin' Al is getting wound a little tighter with each passing game. The pressure is building and is ready to boil over!
Why the need to be so derogatory towards such sweet girls. The reality is that this team is never making the counties and the games are the only opportunity for them to be recognizes, which they should be. Stop being jealous and immature and respect the fact that they are doing everything they can to get a medicos team to win.
Is this a joke, there team would have beat HB if they were not even there so that excuse is just BS. Respect for the team you are playing starts w having self respect and when you have kids like this it seems obvious they are not confident in themselves , very much like kids that are bullies.As far as being recognized they are being recognized for the ball hogs they are. We played them earlier in the year w a team that basically would struggle at the JV level, shooting behing their back and laughing at their opponent while up by over 10 and the game obviously not going to be competitive, was not impressive just pathetic.
ballhogs and team havent made playoffs, just goes to show you that team play is rewarded . get everyone else involved. islip
congrats to cold sring harbor, mt sinai, manhasset, esm, for beating down on Connetcuits best teams. every game was decided in the first 10 minutes. all teams won by atleast 10 goals. way to golong island. strong issland
ballhogs and team havent made playoffs, just goes to show you that team play is rewarded . get everyone else involved. islip
They made Newsday though,,,,
If you have such strong views why be anonymous!
ballhogs and team havent made playoffs, just goes to show you that team play is rewarded . get everyone else involved. islip
Islip beat the teams they should have beat and their three losses were against two teams better than them (BBP and Say) and a team with good talent but bad coaching (MP). The sisters do look like they score against all teams but I don't think they have enough supporting talent. I have one girl playing lax but when my sons played on the same team, they did have a tendency to look to each other to pass the ball to.
Still don't totally get the power point thing (or whatever it's called) but Islip has three games left that they could possibly win to make the playoffs...let them get the last seed and have ESM give them a beating!
ballhogs and team havent made playoffs, just goes to show you that team play is rewarded . get everyone else involved. islip
Islip beat the teams they should have beat and their three losses were against two teams better than them (BBP and Say) and a team with good talent but bad coaching (MP). The sisters do look like they score against all teams but I don't think they have enough supporting talent. I have one girl playing lax but when my sons played on the same team, they did have a tendency to look to each other to pass the ball to.
Still don't totally get the power point thing (or whatever it's called) but Islip has three games left that they could possibly win to make the playoffs...let them get the last seed and have ESM give them a beating!
The point is they have played against several teams who are terrible and there is no need for the two ball hogs to score 17 points in games they would win by 10 plus if they didn't. It's poor sportsmanship plain and simple , add in the shooting behind your back crap and it just goes to show the coach of Islip is afraid to teach the kids the right thing to do.
ballhogs and team havent made playoffs, just goes to show you that team play is rewarded . get everyone else involved. islip
They made Newsday though,,,,
Wow they made newsday, thats what it is all about, making newsday. I hope they dont think like you. moron.#2
Smithtown West and the Middle County Girls Varsity was the worst officiated game ever. I have seen some bad games before but this takes the cake. It really makes me believe that the Officials wanted Middle County to win at all cost.
I will overlook the fact the calls were one sided and the minor fouls were against Smithtown West, But this takes the cake. One Middle County parent yelled out offside. When I heard that I looked at the West girls and found all 4 girls back from the line than the whistle blew. The Ref stop play and looked at the closest girl to the restraining line and told her she was offside and gave possession to Middle County. When play started again the ball move down field some 40 to 50 yards down field the same Ref stop play and handed out a Red card to a West player some 30 yard behind him for language. Keep in mind the Ref was running with the ball watching play and could not see who said what. Now with that said if the Ref didn’t know who said what? Don’t you think the appropriate response was to hand out a yellow to the coach as a warning? No what the Ref did was target one of West best players for draw control and took her out of the game which gave Middle County a 9 point lead at half. Turns out the west player who got the Red card did not say a thing it was and second west player who admitted she was the one with the language problem and all she said was F*** Me it wasn’t directed to anyone.
I am not condoning bad language it has no place on the field, but it happens! However in this case it was not directed to any officials. A red card was not warranted. Interestedly enough in all three games that Smithtown West was carded we lost and all those games we had the Ref as an official.
Something to think about??????
When does Middle Country have to split to two teams. Centereach and Newfield. Two teams are fielded in all other sports. Why are they still allowed to play as one team with a very active youth program and lots of kids playing? Just a question.
Can anyone tell me how many teams make the playoffs in division 1?
When does Middle Country have to split to two teams. Centereach and Newfield. Two teams are fielded in all other sports. Why are they still allowed to play as one team with a very active youth program and lots of kids playing? Just a question.
This question was asked a few months ago and nobody cared enough to answer it then.
Smithtown West and the Middle County Girls Varsity was the worst officiated game ever. I have seen some bad games before but this takes the cake. It really makes me believe that the Officials wanted Middle County to win at all cost.
I will overlook the fact the calls were one sided and the minor fouls were against Smithtown West, But this takes the cake. One Middle County parent yelled out offside. When I heard that I looked at the West girls and found all 4 girls back from the line than the whistle blew. The Ref stop play and looked at the closest girl to the restraining line and told her she was offside and gave possession to Middle County. When play started again the ball move down field some 40 to 50 yards down field the same Ref stop play and handed out a Red card to a West player some 30 yard behind him for language. Keep in mind the Ref was running with the ball watching play and could not see who said what. Now with that said if the Ref didn’t know who said what? Don’t you think the appropriate response was to hand out a yellow to the coach as a warning? No what the Ref did was target one of West best players for draw control and took her out of the game which gave Middle County a 9 point lead at half. Turns out the west player who got the Red card did not say a thing it was and second west player who admitted she was the one with the language problem and all she said was F*** Me it wasn’t directed to anyone.
I am not condoning bad language it has no place on the field, but it happens! However in this case it was not directed to any officials. A red card was not warranted. Interestedly enough in all three games that Smithtown West was carded we lost and all those games we had the Ref as an official.
Something to think about??????
Please no distraction to the issue of the officials. This has nothing to do with splitting Middle County.
When does Middle Country have to split to two teams. Centereach and Newfield. Two teams are fielded in all other sports. Why are they still allowed to play as one team with a very active youth program and lots of kids playing? Just a question.
They combine for track, bowling and tennis not just lax
This question was asked a few months ago and nobody cared enough to answer it then.
Refs want to to get in, get out, get paid all without getting screamed at. If you think they care who wins you are crazy. Only thing that might not help with the next call is if your coach is all over them verbally.
Refs want to to get in, get out, get paid all without getting screamed at. If you think they care who wins you are crazy. Only thing that might not help with the next call is if your coach is all over them verbally.
Than they should be honest and far, what you’re saying is all they want is to make a quick buck.
Refs want to to get in, get out, get paid all without getting screamed at. If you think they care who wins you are crazy. Only thing that might not help with the next call is if your coach is all over them verbally.
Than they should be honest and far, what you’re saying is all they want is to make a quick buck.
Didn't say a quick buck, they want to call it correctly so that limits people bitching about calls. The better they do means just a little less grief except for parents that arent happy unless they are complaining
congrats to cold sring harbor, mt sinai, manhasset, esm, for beating down on Connetcuits best teams. every game was decided in the first 10 minutes. all teams won by atleast 10 goals. way to golong island. strong issland
manhasset wasn't there it was Northport. And sadly although a good game lost to Darien.
Refs want to to get in, get out, get paid all without getting screamed at. If you think they care who wins you are crazy. Only thing that might not help with the next call is if your coach is all over them verbally.
Than they should be honest and far, what you’re saying is all they want is to make a quick buck.
Didn't say a quick buck, they want to call it correctly so that limits people bitching about calls. The better they do means just a little less grief except for parents that arent happy unless they are complaining
Not true at all. There is one ref in Nassau that makes every game about him. Other refs change the way they call the game when they work with him.
Refs want to to get in, get out, get paid all without getting screamed at. If you think they care who wins you are crazy. Only thing that might not help with the next call is if your coach is all over them verbally.
Than they should be honest and far, what you’re saying is all they want is to make a quick buck.
Didn't say a quick buck, they want to call it correctly so that limits people bitching about calls. The better they do means just a little less grief except for parents that arent happy unless they are complaining
Not true at all. There is one ref in Nassau that makes every game about him. Other refs change the way they call the game when they work with him.
That's because he is their boss
Oh please Suffolk has the worst ref out there and the only reason he is allowed to ref is his brother is a big wig in the ref association. The guy is a complete clown, does not know the rules ,is overly confrontational, actually roots for certain teams and players while he is reffing.He clearly has little man syndrome , every coach I have spoken with knows he is a clown and consistenly give him a low rating yet he is still allowed to be out there. Almost every game the guy is involved with becomes dangerous .
congrats to cold sring harbor, mt sinai, manhasset, esm, for beating down on Connetcuits best teams. every game was decided in the first 10 minutes. all teams won by atleast 10 goals. way to golong island. strong issland
manhasset wasn't there it was Northport. And sadly although a good game lost to Darien.
Northport lost to Wilton. Manhasset beat Darien 17-6. All in all a dominant showing by Strong Island!
if a girl, coach , parent says the word F*** ... she gets a red card, no questions asked.
manhasset wasn't there it was Northport. And sadly although a good game lost to Darien. Get your facts straight.
Northport lost to Wilton.
Manhasset beat Darien
Smithtown West and the Middle County Girls Varsity was the worst officiated game ever. I have seen some bad games before but this takes the cake. It really makes me believe that the Officials wanted Middle County to win at all cost.
I will overlook the fact the calls were one sided and the minor fouls were against Smithtown West, But this takes the cake. One Middle County parent yelled out offside. When I heard that I looked at the West girls and found all 4 girls back from the line than the whistle blew. The Ref stop play and looked at the closest girl to the restraining line and told her she was offside and gave possession to Middle County. When play started again the ball move down field some 40 to 50 yards down field the same Ref stop play and handed out a Red card to a West player some 30 yard behind him for language. Keep in mind the Ref was running with the ball watching play and could not see who said what. Now with that said if the Ref didn’t know who said what? Don’t you think the appropriate response was to hand out a yellow to the coach as a warning? No what the Ref did was target one of West best players for draw control and took her out of the game which gave Middle County a 9 point lead at half. Turns out the west player who got the Red card did not say a thing it was and second west player who admitted she was the one with the language problem and all she said was F*** Me it wasn’t directed to anyone.
I am not condoning bad language it has no place on the field, but it happens! However in this case it was not directed to any officials. A red card was not warranted. Interestedly enough in all three games that Smithtown West was carded we lost and all those games we had the Ref as an official.
So that girl should not have played in today's game correct? After getting a ref card she should not be able to play today correct?
Something to think about??????
Please no distraction to the issue of the officials. This has nothing to do with splitting Middle County.
Oh please Suffolk has the worst ref out there and the only reason he is allowed to ref is his brother is a big wig in the ref association. The guy is a complete clown, does not know the rules ,is overly confrontational, actually roots for certain teams and players while he is reffing.He clearly has little man syndrome , every coach I have spoken with knows he is a clown and consistenly give him a low rating yet he is still allowed to be out there. Almost every game the guy is involved with becomes dangerous .
No Suffolk ref has a brother that is a big wig in the association
Oh please Suffolk has the worst ref out there and the only reason he is allowed to ref is his brother is a big wig in the ref association. The guy is a complete clown, does not know the rules ,is overly confrontational, actually roots for certain teams and players while he is reffing.He clearly has little man syndrome , every coach I have spoken with knows he is a clown and consistenly give him a low rating yet he is still allowed to be out there. Almost every game the guy is involved with becomes dangerous .
No Suffolk ref has a brother that is a big wig in the association
Ummm... yes there is. 3 village knows who he is. Complete clown.
Enough with the ref already. lets get back to Middle Country and HHH's. why do they continue to keep one team with such a high enrollment and plenty of girls to field two teams.
Enough with the ref already. lets get back to Middle Country and HHH's. why do they continue to keep one team with such a high enrollment and plenty of girls to field two teams.
No One Cares!
manhasset wasn't there it was Northport. And sadly although a good game lost to Darien. Get your facts straight.
Northport lost to Wilton.
Manhasset beat Darien
The Long Island teams that were there were CSH, Mt Sinai and Northport as well as host school ESM. All Long Island teams won except Northport great showing Long Island!!! Manhasset was NOT there
Smithtown West and the Middle County Girls Varsity was the worst officiated game ever. I have seen some bad games before but this takes the cake. It really makes me believe that the Officials wanted Middle County to win at all cost.
I will overlook the fact the calls were one sided and the minor fouls were against Smithtown West, But this takes the cake. One Middle County parent yelled out offside. When I heard that I looked at the West girls and found all 4 girls back from the line than the whistle blew. The Ref stop play and looked at the closest girl to the restraining line and told her she was offside and gave possession to Middle County. When play started again the ball move down field some 40 to 50 yards down field the same Ref stop play and handed out a Red card to a West player some 30 yard behind him for language. Keep in mind the Ref was running with the ball watching play and could not see who said what. Now with that said if the Ref didn’t know who said what? Don’t you think the appropriate response was to hand out a yellow to the coach as a warning? No what the Ref did was target one of West best players for draw control and took her out of the game which gave Middle County a 9 point lead at half. Turns out the west player who got the Red card did not say a thing it was and second west player who admitted she was the one with the language problem and all she said was F*** Me it wasn’t directed to anyone.
I am not condoning bad language it has no place on the field, but it happens! However in this case it was not directed to any officials. A red card was not warranted. Interestedly enough in all three games that Smithtown West was carded we lost and all those games we had the Ref as an official.
So that girl should not have played in today's game correct? After getting a ref card she should not be able to play today correct?
Something to think about??????
Please no distraction to the issue of the officials. This has nothing to do with splitting Middle County.
Larry, what's the rule if a girl who got a red card plays in the next game? If you get a red card doesn't that mean you cannot play in next game? Just curious, hypothetical situation
How do they determine who makes the playoffs in Div II. The Section XI bracket shows 7 teams and that makes no sense to me; why not 8? I thought this was asked before, but is this like girls soccer or bb where you make the playoffs if you have a .500 record or better of do other factors come into play where you can miss the playoffs even if you have a .500 record or better in your Div? Thanks for any info anyone can share.
Smithtown West and the Middle County Girls Varsity was the worst officiated game ever. I have seen some bad games before but this takes the cake. It really makes me believe that the Officials wanted Middle County to win at all cost.
I will overlook the fact the calls were one sided and the minor fouls were against Smithtown West, But this takes the cake. One Middle County parent yelled out offside. When I heard that I looked at the West girls and found all 4 girls back from the line than the whistle blew. The Ref stop play and looked at the closest girl to the restraining line and told her she was offside and gave possession to Middle County. When play started again the ball move down field some 40 to 50 yards down field the same Ref stop play and handed out a Red card to a West player some 30 yard behind him for language. Keep in mind the Ref was running with the ball watching play and could not see who said what. Now with that said if the Ref didn’t know who said what? Don’t you think the appropriate response was to hand out a yellow to the coach as a warning? No what the Ref did was target one of West best players for draw control and took her out of the game which gave Middle County a 9 point lead at half. Turns out the west player who got the Red card did not say a thing it was and second west player who admitted she was the one with the language problem and all she said was F*** Me it wasn’t directed to anyone.
I am not condoning bad language it has no place on the field, but it happens! However in this case it was not directed to any officials. A red card was not warranted. Interestedly enough in all three games that Smithtown West was carded we lost and all those games we had the Ref as an official.
So that girl should not have played in today's game correct? After getting a ref card she should not be able to play today correct?
Something to think about??????
Please no distraction to the issue of the officials. This has nothing to do with splitting Middle County.
Larry, what's the rule if a girl who got a red card plays in the next game? If you get a red card doesn't that mean you cannot play in next game? Just curious, hypothetical situation
Taken from US lacrosse Women's rule book;
Ejection/Suspension
Section 34. The official has the power to eject without any previous warning any
player guilty of flagrant or repeated violation of the rules, dissent, misconduct, or
abusive language. This immediate ejection will be noted by issuing a red card. Any
player receiving a red card (ejected) must leave the field and enter the penalty area
for four minutes of elapsed playing time and no substitute may take her place during
that four-minute period. Any player receiving a second yellow card (suspended) must
leave the field and enter the penalty area for two minutes of elapsed playing time and
no substitute may take her place during that two-minute period. Once the full penalty
time has been served, the team may substitute another player for the player who has
been ejected or suspended. Anyone receiving two yellow cards (suspended) or a red
card (ejected) in the game will not be eligible for further participation in that game.
Any ejected player receiving a red card will be prohibited from participating in the team’s next game. An ejected player must serve her next-game suspension in her team’s bench area for the entire game including on-field pre-game, game or postgame activities. The ejected player may not be dressed in her game uniform.
manhasset wasn't there it was Northport. And sadly although a good game lost to Darien. Get your facts straight.
Northport lost to Wilton.
Manhasset beat Darien
What was the Northport score?
manhasset wasn't there it was Northport. And sadly although a good game lost to Darien. Get your facts straight.
Northport lost to Wilton.
Manhasset beat Darien
The Long Island teams that were there were CSH, Mt Sinai and Northport as well as host school ESM. All Long Island teams won except Northport great showing Long Island!!! Manhasset was NOT there
No one said Manhasset was there! They didn't play Darien at ESM. I believe it was at Darien. Northport played and lost to Wilton at ESM. Get your facts straight!!!
Glad to see West Babylon "stud" rack up the points today against Commack. When will these coaches get a clue? Stop padding stats!!
Look at West Islip - they spread the scoring and that is why they are 11-0. But the Newsday lax reporter will keep reporting and tweeting about girls who "put up big numbers' even if they are against weak opponents. Same guy picks the best players. Joke!
How do they determine who makes the playoffs in Div II. The Section XI bracket shows 7 teams and that makes no sense to me; why not 8? I thought this was asked before, but is this like girls soccer or bb where you make the playoffs if you have a .500 record or better of do other factors come into play where you can miss the playoffs even if you have a .500 record or better in your Div? Thanks for any info anyone can share.
Top seven teams by power rating. Top team gets a bye. Great scramble for that last spot. First six teams look set.
Oh please Suffolk has the worst ref out there and the only reason he is allowed to ref is his brother is a big wig in the ref association. The guy is a complete clown, does not know the rules ,is overly confrontational, actually roots for certain teams and players while he is reffing.He clearly has little man syndrome , every coach I have spoken with knows he is a clown and consistenly give him a low rating yet he is still allowed to be out there. Almost every game the guy is involved with becomes dangerous .
No Suffolk ref has a brother that is a big wig in the association
Ummm... yes there is. 3 village knows who he is. Complete clown.
You must be I'll informed. There are no brothers that are varsity officials in the girls officiating organization.
There are no brothers that are board members of the girls officiating organization.
You obviously don't like the official you refer to. Everything else you add is bogus.
How about Sacred Heart beating St. Anthonys yesterday, even though I think St. Anthonys might be a little overrated this year, congratulations and great job. Before you start pounding me I DO NOT have a kid in either school.
Oh please Suffolk has the worst ref out there and the only reason he is allowed to ref is his brother is a big wig in the ref association. The guy is a complete clown, does not know the rules ,is overly confrontational, actually roots for certain teams and players while he is reffing.He clearly has little man syndrome , every coach I have spoken with knows he is a clown and consistenly give him a low rating yet he is still allowed to be out there. Almost every game the guy is involved with becomes dangerous .
No Suffolk ref has a brother that is a big wig in the association
Ummm... yes there is. 3 village knows who he is. Complete clown.
You must be I'll informed. There are no brothers that are varsity officials in the girls officiating organization.
There are no brothers that are board members of the girls officiating organization.
You obviously don't like the official you refer to. Everything else you add is bogus.
Certainly not ill informed. His bro is the past president. Look it up smart guy.
His brother is a member of the SCLOA. On the boys side. The brother is actually a very good official, the other gentleman ( keeping it civil ) you have referenced is not.
How about Sacred Heart beating St. Anthonys yesterday, even though I think St. Anthonys might be a little overrated this year, congratulations and great job. Before you start pounding me I DO NOT have a kid in either school.
I don't have a kid on St. A's, but keep in mind the transfers can't play in league games. Then take in account they have a prime time player hurt, That leaves a lot of talent on the sidelines. Might explain a few things.
Oh please Suffolk has the worst ref out there and the only reason he is allowed to ref is his brother is a big wig in the ref association. The guy is a complete clown, does not know the rules ,is overly confrontational, actually roots for certain teams and players while he is reffing.He clearly has little man syndrome , every coach I have spoken with knows he is a clown and consistenly give him a low rating yet he is still allowed to be out there. Almost every game the guy is involved with becomes dangerous .
No Suffolk ref has a brother that is a big wig in the association
Ummm... yes there is. 3 village knows who he is. Complete clown.
You must be I'll informed. There are no brothers that are varsity officials in the girls officiating organization.
There are no brothers that are board members of the girls officiating organization.
You obviously don't like the official you refer to. Everything else you add is bogus.
Certainly not ill informed. His bro is the past president. Look it up smart guy.
You are definitely not the smart guy. There is no interaction with the boys officiating organization. Your premise of a "big wig" is an empty one.
You are a prime example of how a little information can be dangerous.
Just goes to show that anyone can win on any given day. Always have to give it your all and believe you can do it. Great job SHA. Opens up the field for any of those top 4 catholics to win it.
The cards are 2 sided, so when the Ref holds up a card and the parents see the red side...the player see's the yellow...
The cards are 2 sided, so when the Ref holds up a card and the parents see the red side...the player see's the yellow...
No, officials carry three cards, one red, one yellow, and one green. They are instructed to separate them when issuing a card so there's no confusion.
Smithtown West and the Middle County Girls Varsity was the worst officiated game ever. I have seen some bad games before but this takes the cake. It really makes me believe that the Officials wanted Middle County to win at all cost.
I will overlook the fact the calls were one sided and the minor fouls were against Smithtown West, But this takes the cake. One Middle County parent yelled out offside. When I heard that I looked at the West girls and found all 4 girls back from the line than the whistle blew. The Ref stop play and looked at the closest girl to the restraining line and told her she was offside and gave possession to Middle County. When play started again the ball move down field some 40 to 50 yards down field the same Ref stop play and handed out a Red card to a West player some 30 yard behind him for language. Keep in mind the Ref was running with the ball watching play and could not see who said what. Now with that said if the Ref didn’t know who said what? Don’t you think the appropriate response was to hand out a yellow to the coach as a warning? No what the Ref did was target one of West best players for draw control and took her out of the game which gave Middle County a 9 point lead at half. Turns out the west player who got the Red card did not say a thing it was and second west player who admitted she was the one with the language problem and all she said was F*** Me it wasn’t directed to anyone.
I am not condoning bad language it has no place on the field, but it happens! However in this case it was not directed to any officials. A red card was not warranted. Interestedly enough in all three games that Smithtown West was carded we lost and all those games we had the Ref as an official.
Something to think about??????
The players are read sportsmanship rules by officials at the beginning of each game issued by NYSPHSAA. The rules specifically addresses negative statements and actions. It also states that a penalty will be assessed and officials are "instructed not to give warnings."
Oh please Suffolk has the worst ref out there and the only reason he is allowed to ref is his brother is a big wig in the ref association. The guy is a complete clown, does not know the rules ,is overly confrontational, actually roots for certain teams and players while he is reffing.He clearly has little man syndrome , every coach I have spoken with knows he is a clown and consistenly give him a low rating yet he is still allowed to be out there. Almost every game the guy is involved with becomes dangerous .
No Suffolk ref has a brother that is a big wig in the association
Ummm... yes there is. 3 village knows who he is. Complete clown.
You must be I'll informed. There are no brothers that are varsity officials in the girls officiating organization.
There are no brothers that are board members of the girls officiating organization.
You obviously don't like the official you refer to. Everything else you add is bogus.
Certainly not ill informed. His bro is the past president. Look it up smart guy.
You are definitely not the smart guy. There is no interaction with the boys officiating organization. Your premise of a "big wig" is an empty one.
You are a prime example of how a little information can be dangerous.
First off a past president with continued involvement in my book would qualify in my book as a big wig. Second to say no interaction with the boys officiating is just ignorant. Third the fact that you choose not to address the point that the guy is a horrendous ref is telling. The guy is a clown at best who acts like a smart --- while he is reffing and a coward while not reffing.Speak to the other officials and even they will tell you he is a clown and hate being assigned with the guy. He is an angry little man because he feels his superstar daughter was slighted years ago because she was on team 2 or 3 and he thought she should be on the US team. A bad ref is one thing a bad ref who is biased, has a horrible attitude,and has an agenda is unacceptable and this clown should be removed.
div 1 playoffs suffolk county, is not 12. its 13... check section XI website.
Today Suffolk D1
West Islip @ Bay Shore West Islip to strong by 5
Northport @ West Babylon West Babylon by 2
Sachem East @ East Islip toss up, can go either way
Middle Country @ Ward Melville Mid Country wins by 5
Smithtown East @ Hauppauge Hauppauge wins by 5
How about Sacred Heart beating St. Anthonys yesterday, even though I think St. Anthonys might be a little overrated this year, congratulations and great job. Before you start pounding me I DO NOT have a kid in either school.
I don't have a kid on St. A's, but keep in mind the transfers can't play in league games. Then take in account they have a prime time player hurt, That leaves a lot of talent on the sidelines. Might explain a few things.
They actually had 2 starters (both D-I commits) out hurt plus the transfer (another D-I commit) - that left 3 starters on the sidelines. Even so, congrats to Sacred Heart
Unfortunately a lot of top talent has been injuured this year in Nassau and Suffolk.
How about Sacred Heart beating St. Anthonys yesterday, even though I think St. Anthonys might be a little overrated this year, congratulations and great job. Before you start pounding me I DO NOT have a kid in either school.
I don't have a kid on St. A's, but keep in mind the transfers can't play in league games. Then take in account they have a prime time player hurt, That leaves a lot of talent on the sidelines. Might explain a few things.
They actually had 2 starters (both D-I commits) out hurt plus the transfer (another D-I commit) - that left 3 starters on the sidelines. Even so, congrats to Sacred Heart
Amen! Long over due!
How about Sacred Heart beating St. Anthonys yesterday, even though I think St. Anthonys might be a little overrated this year, congratulations and great job. Before you start pounding me I DO NOT have a kid in either school.
I don't have a kid on St. A's, but keep in mind the transfers can't play in league games. Then take in account they have a prime time player hurt, That leaves a lot of talent on the sidelines. Might explain a few things.
They actually had 2 starters (both D-I commits) out hurt plus the transfer (another D-I commit) - that left 3 starters on the sidelines. Even so, congrats to Sacred Heart
Just like YJ when they lose there has to be a disclaimer
How about Sacred Heart beating St. Anthonys yesterday, even though I think St. Anthonys might be a little overrated this year, congratulations and great job. Before you start pounding me I DO NOT have a kid in either school.
I don't have a kid on St. A's, but keep in mind the transfers can't play in league games. Then take in account they have a prime time player hurt, That leaves a lot of talent on the sidelines. Might explain a few things.
They actually had 2 starters (both D-I commits) out hurt plus the transfer (another D-I commit) - that left 3 starters on the sidelines. Even so, congrats to Sacred Heart
Amen! Long over due!
If transfers can't play how has the girl from Huntington played in 11 games?
How about Sacred Heart beating St. Anthonys yesterday, even though I think St. Anthonys might be a little overrated this year, congratulations and great job. Before you start pounding me I DO NOT have a kid in either school.
I don't have a kid on St. A's, but keep in mind the transfers can't play in league games. Then take in account they have a prime time player hurt, That leaves a lot of talent on the sidelines. Might explain a few things.
They actually had 2 starters (both D-I commits) out hurt plus the transfer (another D-I commit) - that left 3 starters on the sidelines. Even so, congrats to Sacred Heart
Amen! Long over due!
If transfers can't play how has the girl from Huntington played in 11 games?
There were a lot of big games today but no predictions?? What happened to the expert predictor??
Today Suffolk D1
West Islip @ Bay Shore West Islip to strong by 5
Northport @ West Babylon West Babylon by 2
Sachem East @ East Islip toss up, can go either way
Middle Country @ Ward Melville Mid Country wins by 5
Smithtown East @ Hauppauge Hauppauge wins by 5
any results?
Today Suffolk D1
West Islip @ Bay Shore West Islip to strong by 5
Northport @ West Babylon West Babylon by 2
Sachem East @ East Islip toss up, can go either way
Middle Country @ Ward Melville Mid Country wins by 5
Smithtown East @ Hauppauge Hauppauge wins by 5
How come you keep leaving out Connetquot? Big game vs. North Babylon today!
How about Sacred Heart beating St. Anthonys yesterday, even though I think St. Anthonys might be a little overrated this year, congratulations and great job. Before you start pounding me I DO NOT have a kid in either school.
I don't have a kid on St. A's, but keep in mind the transfers can't play in league games. Then take in account they have a prime time player hurt, That leaves a lot of talent on the sidelines. Might explain a few things.
They actually had 2 starters (both D-I commits) out hurt plus the transfer (another D-I commit) - that left 3 starters on the sidelines. Even so, congrats to Sacred Heart
Amen! Long over due!
If transfers can't play how has the girl from Huntington played in 11 games?
That is a good question - is the rule different when player transfers form public to catholic (St. A's player) versus catholic to public (Huntington)?
Today Suffolk D1
West Islip @ Bay Shore West Islip to strong by 5
Northport @ West Babylon West Babylon by 2
Sachem East @ East Islip toss up, can go either way
Middle Country @ Ward Melville Mid Country wins by 5
Smithtown East @ Hauppauge Hauppauge wins by 5
How do you pick what games to highlight?
CSH was up 10-7 on Farmingdale with 3 mins to go and list 11-10 in OT. Ouch!!
Today Suffolk D1
West Islip @ Bay Shore West Islip to strong by 5
Northport @ West Babylon West Babylon by 2
Sachem East @ East Islip toss up, can go either way
Middle Country @ Ward Melville Mid Country wins by 5
Smithtown East @ Hauppauge Hauppauge wins by 5
80%... Not bad
Results
WI 14 bayshore 7 no surprise here
Nport 10 WBab 8 had it the wrong way
Sach E 14 EIslip 13 OT
Mid Country 17 Ward Melv 7 off by 5 respect Mid Country
Hauppauge 8 smit E 7 Hauppauge had off day
and nobody cares about non playoff teams
NBab and Connetquot
Results
WI 14 bayshore 7 no surprise here
Nport 10 WBab 8 had it the wrong way
Sach E 14 EIslip 13 OT
Mid Country 17 Ward Melv 7 off by 5 respect Mid Country
Hauppauge 8 smit E 7 Hauppauge had off day
and nobody cares about non playoff teams
NBab and Connetquot
Connetquot might make the playoffs, if the top 12 get in
Results
WI 14 bayshore 7 no surprise here
Nport 10 WBab 8 had it the wrong way
Sach E 14 EIslip 13 OT
Mid Country 17 Ward Melv 7 off by 5 respect Mid Country
Hauppauge 8 smit E 7 Hauppauge had off day
and nobody cares about non playoff teams
NBab and Connetquot
Connetquot might make the playoffs, if the top 12 get in
Top 13 get in in D1 based on points, not necessarily records. Top 3 get a bye:
1. West Islip 10-0-0 12-0-0 159.440
2. Northport 8-2-0 8-4-0 148.000
3. West Babylon 7-3-0 9-3-0 136.440
4. Hauppauge 8-2-0 9-2-0 135.770
5. Middle Ctry 7-3-0 8-4-0 132.890
6. Sachem East 7-3-0 8-3-0 128.670
7. Stown West 7-3-0 7-3-0 125.440
8. Ward Mlvlle 6-4-0 7-4-0 124.440
9. Stown East 6-4-0 7-4-0 119.970
10.Bay Shore 5-5-0 5-5-0 119.440
11.Longwood 8-2-0 9-3-0 119.080
12.Sachem N. 6-4-0 6-6-0 113.090
13.Commack 4-5-0 6-5-0 100.530
14.Connetquot 5-5-0 6-6-0 100.440
15.East Islip 4-6-0 5-7-0 99.330
16.Pat-Medford 5-4-0 6-4-0 97.310
Results
WI 14 bayshore 7 no surprise here
Nport 10 WBab 8 had it the wrong way
Sach E 14 EIslip 13 OT
Mid Country 17 Ward Melv 7 off by 5 respect Mid Country
Hauppauge 8 smit E 7 Hauppauge had off day
and nobody cares about non playoff teams
NBab and Connetquot
Connetquot might make the playoffs, if the top 12 get in
Top 13 get in in D1 based on points, not necessarily records. Top 3 get a bye:
1. West Islip 10-0-0 12-0-0 159.440
2. Northport 8-2-0 8-4-0 148.000
3. West Babylon 7-3-0 9-3-0 136.440
4. Hauppauge 8-2-0 9-2-0 135.770
5. Middle Ctry 7-3-0 8-4-0 132.890
6. Sachem East 7-3-0 8-3-0 128.670
7. Stown West 7-3-0 7-3-0 125.440
8. Ward Mlvlle 6-4-0 7-4-0 124.440
9. Stown East 6-4-0 7-4-0 119.970
10.Bay Shore 5-5-0 5-5-0 119.440
11.Longwood 8-2-0 9-3-0 119.080
12.Sachem N. 6-4-0 6-6-0 113.090
13.Commack 4-5-0 6-5-0 100.530
14.Connetquot 5-5-0 6-6-0 100.440
15.East Islip 4-6-0 5-7-0 99.330
16.Pat-Medford 5-4-0 6-4-0 97.310
That's interesting I think last year it was top 4 with a bye and then top 12 overall made it to playoffs
Results
WI 14 bayshore 7 no surprise here
Nport 10 WBab 8 had it the wrong way
Sach E 14 EIslip 13 OT
Mid Country 17 Ward Melv 7 off by 5 respect Mid Country
Hauppauge 8 smit E 7 Hauppauge had off day
and nobody cares about non playoff teams
NBab and Connetquot
Connetquot might make the playoffs, if the top 12 get in
They would need to win the last 4 games to make the playoffs. That would mean two big wins for Connetquot against W I & S E
Results
WI 14 bayshore 7 no surprise here
Nport 10 WBab 8 had it the wrong way
Sach E 14 EIslip 13 OT
Mid Country 17 Ward Melv 7 off by 5 respect Mid Country
Hauppauge 8 smit E 7 Hauppauge had off day
and nobody cares about non playoff teams
NBab and Connetquot
Connetquot might make the playoffs, if the top 12 get in
Top 13 get in in D1 based on points, not necessarily records. Top 3 get a bye:
1. West Islip 10-0-0 12-0-0 159.440
2. Northport 8-2-0 8-4-0 148.000
3. West Babylon 7-3-0 9-3-0 136.440
4. Hauppauge 8-2-0 9-2-0 135.770
5. Middle Ctry 7-3-0 8-4-0 132.890
6. Sachem East 7-3-0 8-3-0 128.670
7. Stown West 7-3-0 7-3-0 125.440
8. Ward Mlvlle 6-4-0 7-4-0 124.440
9. Stown East 6-4-0 7-4-0 119.970
10.Bay Shore 5-5-0 5-5-0 119.440
11.Longwood 8-2-0 9-3-0 119.080
12.Sachem N. 6-4-0 6-6-0 113.090
13.Commack 4-5-0 6-5-0 100.530
14.Connetquot 5-5-0 6-6-0 100.440
15.East Islip 4-6-0 5-7-0 99.330
16.Pat-Medford 5-4-0 6-4-0 97.310
That's interesting I think last year it was top 4 with a bye and then top 12 overall made it to playoffs
Not sure about last year. This year, Section XI brackets list it as noted above... Top 13, top 3 get a bye. Playoffs begin on Friday 5/16.
How come you keep leaving out Connetquot? Big game vs. North Babylon today! YEAH FOR 21ST PLACE ?
They would need to win the last 4 games to make the playoffs. That would mean two big wins for Connetquot against W I & S E.
THATS FUNNY
Results
WI 14 bayshore 7 no surprise here
Nport 10 WBab 8 had it the wrong way
Sach E 14 EIslip 13 OT
Mid Country 17 Ward Melv 7 off by 5 respect Mid Country
Hauppauge 8 smit E 7 Hauppauge had off day
and nobody cares about non playoff teams
NBab and Connetquot
Connetquot might make the playoffs, if the top 12 get in
Top 13 get in in D1 based on points, not necessarily records. Top 3 get a bye:
1. West Islip 10-0-0 12-0-0 159.440
2. Northport 8-2-0 8-4-0 148.000
3. West Babylon 7-3-0 9-3-0 136.440
4. Hauppauge 8-2-0 9-2-0 135.770
5. Middle Ctry 7-3-0 8-4-0 132.890
6. Sachem East 7-3-0 8-3-0 128.670
7. Stown West 7-3-0 7-3-0 125.440
8. Ward Mlvlle 6-4-0 7-4-0 124.440
9. Stown East 6-4-0 7-4-0 119.970
10.Bay Shore 5-5-0 5-5-0 119.440
11.Longwood 8-2-0 9-3-0 119.080
12.Sachem N. 6-4-0 6-6-0 113.090
13.Commack 4-5-0 6-5-0 100.530
14.Connetquot 5-5-0 6-6-0 100.440
15.East Islip 4-6-0 5-7-0 99.330
16.Pat-Medford 5-4-0 6-4-0 97.310
That's interesting I think last year it was top 4 with a bye and then top 12 overall made it to playoffs
Used power ratings last year, same as this year.
How come you keep leaving out Connetquot? Big game vs. North Babylon today! YEAH FOR 21ST PLACE ?
They would need to win the last 4 games to make the playoffs. That would mean two big wins for Connetquot against W I & S E.
THATS FUNNY
Connetquot will finish 7-7, which might get them in, right?
Connetquot Coach could not win 4 straight games !!
How come you keep leaving out Connetquot? Big game vs. North Babylon today! YEAH FOR 21ST PLACE ?
They would need to win the last 4 games to make the playoffs. That would mean two big wins for Connetquot against W I & S E.
THATS FUNNY
Connetquot will finish 7-7, which might get them in, right?
7-7 may not be enough with the strength of schedule . They have to play and beat the upper half of the division to make it. Maybe with a little help from others & if they go 8-6.I hope you make it!
I heard Connetquot lost their goalie for remainder of the year due to a concusion he got from the coach warming him up
If true wow.
SORRY FOR LAST POST IT WAS THE BOYS TEAM THAT LOST THEIR GOALIE
How come you keep leaving out Connetquot? Big game vs. North Babylon today! YEAH FOR 21ST PLACE ?
They would need to win the last 4 games to make the playoffs. That would mean two big wins for Connetquot against W I & S E.
THATS FUNNY
Connetquot will finish 7-7, which might get them in, right?
7-7 may not be enough with the strength of schedule . They have to play and beat the upper half of the division to make it. Maybe with a little help from others & if they go 8-6.I hope you make it!
Look at the other 5-5 teams Bayshore is 19 points higher in the power rankings due to their strength of schedule.
Connetquot Coach could not win 4 straight games !!
Connetquot Coach is a great guy..I think he is capable of anything
How about Sacred Heart beating St. Anthonys yesterday, even though I think St. Anthonys might be a little overrated this year, congratulations and great job. Before you start pounding me I DO NOT have a kid in either school.
I don't have a kid on St. A's, but keep in mind the transfers can't play in league games. Then take in account they have a prime time player hurt, That leaves a lot of talent on the sidelines. Might explain a few things.
They actually had 2 starters (both D-I commits) out hurt plus the transfer (another D-I commit) - that left 3 starters on the sidelines. Even so, congrats to Sacred Heart
Amen! Long over due!
If transfers can't play how has the girl from Huntington played in 11 games?
Thats a great question care to explain if transfers can't play why she is
if a girl, coach , parent says the word F*** ... she gets a red card, no questions asked.
and rightfully so esp from a player or coach- no room for that crap
The cards are 2 sided, so when the Ref holds up a card and the parents see the red side...the player see's the yellow...
No, officials carry three cards, one red, one yellow, and one green. They are instructed to separate them when issuing a card so there's no confusion.
are yellow and red- same as soccer
yellow = warning 2 yellows equal a red
red= players sent off
green= ?
The cards are 2 sided, so when the Ref holds up a card and the parents see the red side...the player see's the yellow...
No, officials carry three cards, one red, one yellow, and one green. They are instructed to separate them when issuing a card so there's no confusion.
are yellow and red- same as soccer
yellow = warning 2 yellows equal a red
red= players sent off
green= ?
Green is some sort of warning, like if a girl has earrings in. I don't know what happens past that though with a green card.
The cards are 2 sided, so when the Ref holds up a card and the parents see the red side...the player see's the yellow...
No, officials carry three cards, one red, one yellow, and one green. They are instructed to separate them when issuing a card so there's no confusion.
are yellow and red- same as soccer
yellow = warning 2 yellows equal a red
red= players sent off
green= ?
Green is some sort of warning, like if a girl has earrings in. I don't know what happens past that though with a green card.
green card is for delay of game you lose possession
Been thru the Connetquot system....Coach is a joke !!
Connetquot Coach could not win 4 straight games !!
Connetquot Coach is a great guy..I think he is capable of anything
Great guy is one thing...but "capable of anything"? What's good about his coaching?
transfers , catholic to public or public to public can play . public to catholic or catholic to catholic transfers can not play in league games.
How about Sacred Heart beating St. Anthonys yesterday, even though I think St. Anthonys might be a little overrated this year, congratulations and great job. Before you start pounding me I DO NOT have a kid in either school.
I don't have a kid on St. A's, but keep in mind the transfers can't play in league games. Then take in account they have a prime time player hurt, That leaves a lot of talent on the sidelines. Might explain a few things.
They actually had 2 starters (both D-I commits) out hurt plus the transfer (another D-I commit) - that left 3 starters on the sidelines. Even so, congrats to Sacred Heart
Amen! Long over due!
If transfers can't play how has the girl from Huntington played in 11 games?
Thats a great question care to explain if transfers can't play why she is
if the transfers weren't phenomenal players that your team will be playing against real soon , would you really care about transfer rules? amazing how this transfer rule talk comes up from different directions just a couple of weeks before the biggest rivalry games of the season . Coincidence ?
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
The cards are 2 sided, so when the Ref holds up a card and the parents see the red side...the player see's the yellow...
No, officials carry three cards, one red, one yellow, and one green. They are instructed to separate them when issuing a card so there's no confusion.
are yellow and red- same as soccer
yellow = warning 2 yellows equal a red
red= players sent off
green= ?
Issuance of Cards
Delay of Game
Section 28. Timeout must be called to administer a delay of game card. The first
violation should be followed by a green card which shall be recorded in the scorebook
against the offending team. A change of possession takes place if applicable for the
minor foul.
On the next delay of game the official will show a green and yellow card to the
offending player and award the appropriate penalty (major foul). The offending player
may remain in the game.
Any subsequent delay of game offenses will result in a green and red card being
given to the offending player and award the appropriate penalty (major foul). The
player receiving the green/red card must leave the field and enter the penalty area for
2 minutes of elapsed playing time, which will carry over to the second half or overtime
if necessary. A substitute must take her place. The official timer will be responsible for
timing the 2 minutes and indicating to the scorer when the player may return.
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
Who are you talking about?
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
You can say that again. Inept and joke are good words for it. Good luck Connetquot...
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
Who are you talking about?
Connetquot coach, and I see I'm not alone....
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
Who are you talking about?
Connetquot coach, and I see I'm not alone....
You are alone , just same anonymous coward posting about a coach who's team is unsuccessful because the kids are not very good, they will be good in a couple years as they have talented youth teams
Definitely not alone, classic example of a teacher in the district maintaining a coaching position without developing the program thru involvemnet with the youth. In addition, not being held to any standard.
Coach has had many pass thru this program
Definitely not alone, classic example of a teacher in the district maintaining a coaching position without developing the program thru involvemnet with the youth. In addition, not being held to any standard.
Coach has had many pass thru this program
Very true!
I believe that is a Catholic school league rule and was designed to prevent people from transferring in solely for sports. If a player transfers in, they are inlegible to play in league games that next season or year (not sure which)
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
Who are you talking about?
Connetquot coach, and I see I'm not alone....
You are alone , just same anonymous coward posting about a coach who's team is unsuccessful because the kids are not very good, they will be good in a couple years as they have talented youth teams
What's his lacrosse background? What impresses you about his coaching?
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
Who are you talking about?
Connetquot coach, and I see I'm not alone....
You are alone , just same anonymous coward posting about a coach who's team is unsuccessful because the kids are not very good, they will be good in a couple years as they have talented youth teams
but aren't you posting anonymously, and insulting people too? and he's a coward?
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
Who are you talking about?
Connetquot coach, and I see I'm not alone....
You are alone , just same anonymous coward posting about a coach who's team is unsuccessful because the kids are not very good, they will be good in a couple years as they have talented youth teams
What age group is so strong?
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
Who are you talking about?
Connetquot coach, and I see I'm not alone....
You are alone , just same anonymous coward posting about a coach who's team is unsuccessful because the kids are not very good, they will be good in a couple years as they have talented youth teams
No, im definitely not. They might be good because of the youth league, not coach's ability
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
Who are you talking about?
Connetquot coach, and I see I'm not alone....
You are alone , just same anonymous coward posting about a coach who's team is unsuccessful because the kids are not very good, they will be good in a couple years as they have talented youth teams
but aren't you posting anonymously, and insulting people too? and he's a coward?
The difference [lacrosse] is I am posting about an anonymous person he is not, if you do not see the difference your also a moron
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
Who are you talking about?
Connetquot coach, and I see I'm not alone....
You are alone , just same anonymous coward posting about a coach who's team is unsuccessful because the kids are not very good, they will be good in a couple years as they have talented youth teams
but aren't you posting anonymously, and insulting people too? and he's a coward?
The difference [lacrosse] is I am posting about an anonymous person he is not, if you do not see the difference your also a moron
Okaaaay let's move on, a few big games tomorrow - any predictions?
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
Who are you talking about?
Connetquot coach, and I see I'm not alone....
You are alone , just same anonymous coward posting about a coach who's team is unsuccessful because the kids are not very good, they will be good in a couple years as they have talented youth teams
but aren't you posting anonymously, and insulting people too? and he's a coward?
The difference [lacrosse] is I am posting about an anonymous person he is not, if you do not see the difference your also a moron
I can personally say my daughter was coached by coach P for YJ and he is by far a great coach.
He's probably good for young girls but not for varsity
I can personally say my daughter was coached by coach P for YJ and he is by far a great coach.
What exactly makes him - "by far a great coach"? That's a joke!
[Tte=Anonymous]from what I understand is the Smith e coach is new this year, in the past the coach would never allow this to happen. and yes the 2 top players played all but n3-5 minutes of the game and there were girls that did not see any playing time on the smithtown bench [/quote]
I can't believe that people have this much time on their hands to even post about this! The bench was in fact cleared and every other team in the league has beat them by the same amount. As for the "the players", get used to it...they are talented!
enough with beating up on Smithtown east. It was one player, her own team mates were embarrassed she kept scoring. East has a strong team and classy players please do not define this team from the actions of one player and a coach with an EGO
OK so a few comments about the Copiague team you all like to trash. The one thing I see about these girls is they do not give up they will play there hearts out till the end of the game. Thank you west Islip for stepping up and trying to help get younger girls involved. The Coaches are dedicated as there is only one for varsity, JV and middle school. Shame on AD for not knowing fields are different for girls lacrosse and had girls practice field lined for boys lacrosse. It is hard to get good practice when fields are incorrect. also shame on the union building and grounds staff that sat around and could not get the fields lined for the girls. everyone loves to blame the coaches but the fact is the district has failed.
Coaching skills are inept to say the least
Who are you talking about?
Connetquot coach, and I see I'm not alone....
You are alone , just same anonymous coward posting about a coach who's team is unsuccessful because the kids are not very good, they will be good in a couple years as they have talented youth teams
but aren't you posting anonymously, and insulting people too? and he's a coward?
The difference [lacrosse] is I am posting about an anonymous person he is not, if you do not see the difference your also a moron
Would you be using these insults if your name was attached to your posts?
As another season winds down, what's everyone's thought after the 2nd year of the D1 super conference that combined small and large schools during the season and then sends them all back to their division by size for the playoffs?
enough with beating up on Smithtown east. It was one player, her own team mates were embarrassed she kept scoring. East has a strong team and classy players please do not define this team from the actions of one player and a coach with an EGO
When teams run about the score, it is ALWAYS the coach's fault. He or she can easily bench kids or provide instruction to limit goals. Coaches should be embarrassed when they pummel a clearly overmatched squad.
Wantagh beats farmingdale and TW gets a yellow card. She runs up an down the sidelines yelling and screaming throughout the entire game. She attempts to intimidate the refs as well as the opposing players. Someone should get this women under control. Hey TW, shut your mouth and let the girls on the field decide the game! And to the other coaches, players, and fans of Farmimgdale thank you for a great lax game that was enjoyable to watch. Players on both sides were a pleasure to watch play. Good luck to both teams in the playoffs.
Wantagh beats farmingdale and TW gets a yellow card. She runs up an down the sidelines yelling and screaming throughout the entire game. She attempts to intimidate the refs as well as the opposing players. Someone should get this women under control. Hey TW, shut your mouth and let the girls on the field decide the game! And to the other coaches, players, and fans of Farmimgdale thank you for a great lax game that was enjoyable to watch. Players on both sides were a pleasure to watch play. Good luck to both teams in the playoffs.
She attempts to intimidate opposing players?
Maybe a slight exaggeration?
Wantagh beats farmingdale and TW gets a yellow card. She runs up an down the sidelines yelling and screaming throughout the entire game. She attempts to intimidate the refs as well as the opposing players. Someone should get this women under control. Hey TW, shut your mouth and let the girls on the field decide the game! And to the other coaches, players, and fans of Farmimgdale thank you for a great lax game that was enjoyable to watch. Players on both sides were a pleasure to watch play. Good luck to both teams in the playoffs.
she told all the YJ's on the other team they werent allowed to score or it would hurt them this summer
She attempts to intimidate opposing players?
Maybe a slight exaggeration?
Wantagh beats farmingdale and TW gets a yellow card. She runs up an down the sidelines yelling and screaming throughout the entire game. She attempts to intimidate the refs as well as the opposing players. Someone should get this women under control. Hey TW, shut your mouth and let the girls on the field decide the game! And to the other coaches, players, and fans of Farmimgdale thank you for a great lax game that was enjoyable to watch. Players on both sides were a pleasure to watch play. Good luck to both teams in the playoffs.
Stop exaggerating , there are rules to how far a coach can go toward the opposing teams bench area and they cannot get very close. If she were not following the rules then it would be up to the refs to enforce and your coach to remind her and the refs.
enough with beating up on Smithtown east. It was one player, her own team mates were embarrassed she kept scoring. East has a strong team and classy players please do not define this team from the actions of one player and a coach with an EGO
VERY DIRTY TEAM
Wantagh beats farmingdale and TW gets a yellow card. She runs up an down the sidelines yelling and screaming throughout the entire game. She attempts to intimidate the refs as well as the opposing players. Someone should get this women under control. Hey TW, shut your mouth and let the girls on the field decide the game! And to the other coaches, players, and fans of Farmimgdale thank you for a great lax game that was enjoyable to watch. Players on both sides were a pleasure to watch play. Good luck to both teams in the playoffs.
she told all the YJ's on the other team they werent allowed to score or it would hurt them this summer
She attempts to intimidate opposing players?
Maybe a slight exaggeration?
I guess Wantagh Is lucky they have girls that play for multiple Clubs not just YJ
Wantagh beats farmingdale and TW gets a yellow card. She runs up an down the sidelines yelling and screaming throughout the entire game. She attempts to intimidate the refs as well as the opposing players. Someone should get this women under control. Hey TW, shut your mouth and let the girls on the field decide the game! And to the other coaches, players, and fans of Farmimgdale thank you for a great lax game that was enjoyable to watch. Players on both sides were a pleasure to watch play. Good luck to both teams in the playoffs.
Stop exaggerating , there are rules to how far a coach can go toward the opposing teams bench area and they cannot get very close. If she were not following the rules then it would be up to the refs to enforce and your coach to remind her and the refs.
This is not new for her, she does in most games. She did it last year in a game we played against her and she did it again this year. Throw her out of the game already.
This weeks complete tool award goes to the Bellport coach. One of the worst teams out there puts a 20-0 beat down on a team who is really a middle school team and should not be playing. I get it , you got kids to score who probably never have before but you and your team should understand more than most what it feels like to be on the other end of that beating.
I agree Bellport coach, a complete tool.
This weeks complete tool award goes to the Bellport coach. One of the worst teams out there puts a 20-0 beat down on a team who is really a middle school team and should not be playing. I get it , you got kids to score who probably never have before but you and your team should understand more than most what it feels like to be on the other end of that beating.
They also hammered Copiague 19-0. Another classy move...
Summit (NJ) over Farmingdale 9-5. Summit the better team.
St Anthony's what up, all those D1 players. 2 losses this week, should have lost to Farmingdale. I wish my daughters team played you, we could use a WIN. not even in top 10 of Long Island schools, who can only take girls in there district. embarrassing.
THE "COME ON MAN" AWARD goes to Bellport. come on man you couldnt shut the scoring down at 12 or 13 in game against Southhampton/Ross (0 - 6). Did you have to put up 20. And 19 against Copaigue ( 0 - 11). You team is going nowhere. You lost to Mattituck by 8 goals. and Huntington by 11 and SWR by 10. They could have put up 30 on you if they wanted.
"COME ON MAN" AWARD for the season has to go to Rocky Point Girls Varsity !
Really??
"COME ON MAN" AWARD for the season has to go to Rocky Point Girls Varsity !
Really??
Rocky Point?
"COME ON MAN" AWARD for the season has to go to Rocky Point Girls Varsity !
Really??
Why?
Where do you even start !
Summit (NJ) over Farmingdale 9-5. Summit the better team.
No shame here. Summit is very good this year and can play with anyone. Have several D1 commits including Northwestern, Duke (2), Stanford, Vanderbilt, Lehigh, Colgate, etc.
Where do you even start !
From a different school, not even same division,so don't know what you're talking about. Their record seems mediocre, no real blowouts either way, or anything crazy.
Suffolk D1 games of the week
5/7/2014 Bay Shore @ East Islip Bayshore by 5, EI coach has lost control
5/7/2014 West Islip @ Sachem East WI by 7, way to strong
5/7/2014 West Babylon @ Ward Melville WB by 4
5/7/2014 Northport @ Middle Country M Country to much offense
5/9/2014 Hauppauge @ West Islip WI because they are home, too close
5/9/2014 Smithtown West @ West Babylon West Bab by 2 or 3
5/9/2014 Smithtown East @ Northport toss up, can go either way
5/9/2014 Copiague @ Walt Whitman Come on Man
ESM beat Westhampton Beach Saturday 9-7 Saturday in Division2.
if you want to give walt whitman a come on man agaisnst copiague do not blame walt whitman blame section XI. it is time for another division. More like a development league (sorry brentwood) but lets let the lower competing teams have some good LAX. Do you really think Lindy, N. bab and the smithtown teams like these blowouts against Copiague. Honesstly how do you stop a player from scoring against copiague when the player never sees playing time and wants th coach to play them
Maybe some of the surrounding towns should help the lesser developed towns grow their programs.
ESM beat Westhampton Beach Saturday 9-7 Saturday in Division2.
who cares D2 or 3 ?
if you want to give walt whitman a come on man agaisnst copiague do not blame walt whitman blame section XI. it is time for another division. More like a development league (sorry brentwood) but lets let the lower competing teams have some good LAX. Do you really think Lindy, N. bab and the smithtown teams like these blowouts against Copiague. Honesstly how do you stop a player from scoring against copiague when the player never sees playing time and wants th coach to play them
Yeah and Walt Whitman, N. Bab, Lindy will be in that developmental division.
Maybe some of the surrounding towns should help the lesser developed towns grow their programs.
Yeah that will work. LOL
If mediocre is okay with the coaches then that's what it is !
Put time effort and real strategic thought into something you will get great results !
Just a Tip that people forget !
Where do you even start !
From a different school, not even same division,so don't know what you're talking about. Their record seems mediocre, no real blowouts either way, or anything crazy.
if you want to give walt whitman a come on man agaisnst copiague do not blame walt whitman blame section XI. it is time for another division. More like a development league (sorry brentwood) but lets let the lower competing teams have some good LAX. Do you really think Lindy, N. bab and the smithtown teams like these blowouts against Copiague. Honesstly how do you stop a player from scoring against copiague when the player never sees playing time and wants th coach to play them
Yeah and Walt Whitman, N. Bab, Lindy will be in that developmental division.
Walt Whitman had a playoff team last year (10-6) and played W Babylon tough in its playoff game. But that senior class was a bunch of athletes. Three players went on to play in college, one a NESCAC team. This year they have D2 bound senior and a very good junior and nothing else. They have no youth program and weak coaching.
Lindenhurst was also a playoff team last year. Produced a stellar goalie.
Some school programs will have their up and downs without promoting the sport at youth levels.
Why isn't suffolk structured like Nassau? Then all the padding points issues go away and it would be better for comparing points on long island.
"COME ON MAN" AWARD for the season has to go to Rocky Point Girls Varsity !
Really??
Totally disagree. One of the real gentlemen among all coaches!
Developmental Division
Copaige
Brentwood
Walt Whitman
North Babylon
Willian Floyd
Lindenhurst
Riverhead
HH Hills
[quote=Anonymous]ESM beat Westhampton Beach Saturday 9-7 Saturday in Division2.
who cares D2 or 3 ? [/quote
You're right who cares? Power rankings have class C and B teams ranked higher thank your top A teams. Doubt there's a division 1 team that could beat mount sinai
Two of the listed teams were in the playoffs last year. What does Developmental Division mean and how do you qualify?
Walt Whitman had a playoff team last year (10-6) WHAT ??
'' Come On Man '' last years wins
elwood 2 wins
commack 5 wins
rivehead 2 wins
copaige 0 wins
sachem n 5 wins
brentwood 1 win
floyd 5 wins
longwood 4 wins
and the next 2 are top teams in all LI
pat med 7 wins
north bab 8 wins
[quote=Anonymous]ESM beat Westhampton Beach Saturday 9-7 Saturday in Division2.
who cares D2 or 3 ? [/quote
You're right who cares? Power rankings have class C and B teams ranked higher thank your top A teams. Doubt there's a division 1 team that could beat mount sinai
yeah ranked higher because they dont have enough teams. slim pickings
Be careful of power rankings as it has a lot to do with who you play. Having said that, Mt Sinai would do just fine against any team in Suffolk.
ESM beat Westhampton Beach Saturday 9-7 Saturday in Division2.
who cares D2 or 3 ?
your a joke by saying who cares. Just because a school is D2 doesn't make it a bad program. I'm sure with of these schools could give any of the top D1 teams a run for their money ESM has a crazy amount of D1 committed players and All Americans and Westhampton has the same. I'm sure you think Mt Sinai is weak too!! They could beat any of the D1 schools it's just about school size people not about talent so get over the fact that D2 and 3 mean nothing bc more top college players are out of 2/3 then 1 this year!!
ESM beat Westhampton Beach Saturday 9-7 Saturday in Division2.
who cares D2 or 3 ?
You are either ignorant or arrogant! Either way you are clueless! Suffolk D1 out of conference record is 19W 20L's. many of the losses coming to Suffolk D 2 (class C and B) teams. Suffolk Division 2's out of conference record is 21-9!! Are there good teams in D1? Yes, but there are probably more strong teams in D2! BTW lax power thinks so too!
Be careful of power rankings as it has a lot to do with who you play. Having said that, Mt Sinai would do just fine against any team in Suffolk.
my child has played against Mt Sinai and I couldn't agree more with this post, Mt. Sinai, Sayville, Westhampton, Huntington ESM could all give the top D1 schools a run for their money. How come Farmingdale (D1 school ) lost to Darien while Manhasset D2 school beat them. So much for the theory of D2 being weaker then 1
Doesn't matter who they played. Using the formula that ranks all teams in the division, they were a playoff team. That is all that counts.
My question is the Developmental Division. You can't base it on the prior year. How do you establish this division?
Be careful of power rankings as it has a lot to do with who you play. Having said that, Mt Sinai would do just fine against any team in Suffolk.
my child has played against Mt Sinai and I couldn't agree more with this post, Mt. Sinai, Sayville, Westhampton, Huntington ESM could all give the top D1 schools a run for their money. How come Farmingdale (D1 school ) lost to Darien while Manhasset D2 school beat them. So much for the theory of D2 being weaker then 1
you can include Bayport to that list! BTW they beat EI pretty soundly!
Doesn't matter who they played. Using the formula that ranks all teams in the division, they were a playoff team. That is all that counts.
My question is the Developmental Division. You can't base it on the prior year. How do you establish this division?
do it like soccer.. top 2 teams move up a division bottom 2 drop down a division.. middle few stay
Doesn't matter who they played. Using the formula that ranks all teams in the division, they were a playoff team. That is all that counts.
My question is the Developmental Division. You can't base it on the prior year. How do you establish this division?
do it like soccer.. top 2 teams move up a division bottom 2 drop down a division.. middle few stay
thats more like LIJ soccer...Section XI already has a developmental league for soccer and it includes schools of all size.
This might be an oversimplification but I would take the four lowest teams from Div 1 and 2 and put them in the league. They would play each other twice for a total of 14 league games and I would take the best 2 D1 and D2 teams and move them back and take the worst 2 Div 1/2 teams in the regular league and move them to this league on a yearly basis I don't think size of the school matter but the quality of the lacrosse does.
Walt Whitman had a playoff team last year (10-6) WHAT ??
'' Come On Man '' last years wins
elwood 2 wins
commack 5 wins
rivehead 2 wins
copaige 0 wins
sachem n 5 wins
brentwood 1 win
floyd 5 wins
longwood 4 wins
and the next 2 are top teams in all LI
pat med 7 wins
north bab 8 wins
Doesn't matter who they played. Using the formula that ranks all teams in the division, they were a playoff team. That is all that counts.
My question is the Developmental Division. You can't base it on the prior year. How do you establish this division?
Walt Whitman had a playoff team last year (10-6) WHAT ??
'' Come On Man '' last years wins
elwood 2 wins
commack 5 wins
rivehead 2 wins
copaige 0 wins
sachem n 5 wins
brentwood 1 win
floyd 5 wins
longwood 4 wins
and the next 2 are top teams in all LI
pat med 7 wins
north bab 8 wins
Doesn't matter who they played. Using the formula that ranks all teams in the division, they were a playoff team. That is all that counts.
My question is the Developmental Division. You can't base it on the prior year. How do you establish this division?
Be careful of power rankings as it has a lot to do with who you play. Having said that, Mt Sinai would do just fine against any team in Suffolk.
my child has played against Mt Sinai and I couldn't agree more with this post, Mt. Sinai, Sayville, Westhampton, Huntington ESM could all give the top D1 schools a run for their money. How come Farmingdale (D1 school ) lost to Darien while Manhasset D2 school beat them. So much for the theory of D2 being weaker then 1
you can include Bayport to that list! BTW they beat EI pretty soundly!
I wouldn't count beating EI a huge accomplishment sorry
Be careful of power rankings as it has a lot to do with who you play. Having said that, Mt Sinai would do just fine against any team in Suffolk.
my child has played against Mt Sinai and I couldn't agree more with this post, Mt. Sinai, Sayville, Westhampton, Huntington ESM could all give the top D1 schools a run for their money. How come Farmingdale (D1 school ) lost to Darien while Manhasset D2 school beat them. So much for the theory of D2 being weaker then 1
Manhasset and Farmingdale both Nassau Conference I teams.
Be careful of power rankings as it has a lot to do with who you play. Having said that, Mt Sinai would do just fine against any team in Suffolk.
my child has played against Mt Sinai and I couldn't agree more with this post, Mt. Sinai, Sayville, Westhampton, Huntington ESM could all give the top D1 schools a run for their money. How come Farmingdale (D1 school ) lost to Darien while Manhasset D2 school beat them. So much for the theory of D2 being weaker then 1
you can include Bayport to that list! BTW they beat EI pretty soundly!
that's a pretty fun quote Bayport being included in this list for beating a 4-7 team soundly...by 4 goals!! Nice try Bayport parent when you beat teams like Sayville, Mt Sinai, West Hampton and ESM then you can maybe be considered
Be careful of power rankings as it has a lot to do with who you play. Having said that, Mt Sinai would do just fine against any team in Suffolk.
my child has played against Mt Sinai and I couldn't agree more with this post, Mt. Sinai, Sayville, Westhampton, Huntington ESM could all give the top D1 schools a run for their money. How come Farmingdale (D1 school ) lost to Darien while Manhasset D2 school beat them. So much for the theory of D2 being weaker then 1
Manhasset and Farmingdale both Nassau Conference I teams.
But different divisions. My bad.
Be careful of power rankings as it has a lot to do with who you play. Having said that, Mt Sinai would do just fine against any team in Suffolk.
my child has played against Mt Sinai and I couldn't agree more with this post, Mt. Sinai, Sayville, Westhampton, Huntington ESM could all give the top D1 schools a run for their money. How come Farmingdale (D1 school ) lost to Darien while Manhasset D2 school beat them. So much for the theory of D2 being weaker then 1
you can include Bayport to that list! BTW they beat EI pretty soundly!
that's a pretty fun quote Bayport being included in this list for beating a 4-7 team soundly...by 4 goals!! Nice try Bayport parent when you beat teams like Sayville, Mt Sinai, West Hampton and ESM then you can maybe be considered
Hey Einstein they did beat Westhampton , that being said Westhampton is not that good , they have not beaten any good teams this year.
Be careful of power rankings as it has a lot to do with who you play. Having said that, Mt Sinai would do just fine against any team in Suffolk.
my child has played against Mt Sinai and I couldn't agree more with this post, Mt. Sinai, Sayville, Westhampton, Huntington ESM could all give the top D1 schools a run for their money. How come Farmingdale (D1 school ) lost to Darien while Manhasset D2 school beat them. So much for the theory of D2 being weaker then 1
you can include Bayport to that list! BTW they beat EI pretty soundly!
that's a pretty fun quote Bayport being included in this list for beating a 4-7 team soundly...by 4 goals!! Nice try Bayport parent when you beat teams like Sayville, Mt Sinai, West Hampton and ESM then you can maybe be considered
Not to knock Bayport here, they are a decent team, but EI seems to have fallen off a cliff!
Be careful of power rankings as it has a lot to do with who you play. Having said that, Mt Sinai would do just fine against any team in Suffolk.
my child has played against Mt Sinai and I couldn't agree more with this post, Mt. Sinai, Sayville, Westhampton, Huntington ESM could all give the top D1 schools a run for their money. How come Farmingdale (D1 school ) lost to Darien while Manhasset D2 school beat them. So much for the theory of D2 being weaker then 1
you can include Bayport to that list! BTW they beat EI pretty soundly!
that's a pretty fun quote Bayport being included in this list for beating a 4-7 team soundly...by 4 goals!! Nice try Bayport parent when you beat teams like Sayville, Mt Sinai, West Hampton and ESM then you can maybe be considered
Not to knock Bayport here, they are a decent team, but EI seems to have fallen off a cliff!
that's funny falling off a cliff. Even funnier Bayport thinking they are good for beating them!!!
I think you are underestimating BBP a little. That said, here are the B division tiers
ESM
Huntington
didn't play Huntington but the results speak for themselves
Say
BBP
good teams; not as good as the top 2
WH
ISl
MP
RP
3 of them should make the playoffs but any of them could beat the other one on a given day but all four would have a very tough time against the top 2 and a tough time against the next 2
I don't want to come across as a moto but thats the way B division shapes up
you can include Bayport to that list! BTW they beat EI pretty soundly! so did 7 other teams. they have 7 lossers genius
You are either ignorant or arrogant! Either way you are clueless! Suffolk D1 out of conference record is 19W 20L's. many of the losses coming to Suffolk D 2 (class C and B) teams. Suffolk Division 2's out of conference record is 21-9!! Are there good teams in D1? Yes, but there are probably more strong teams in D2! BTW lax power thinks so too!
How long did it take you to figure that out you moron
My question is the Developmental Division. You can't base it on the prior year. How do you establish this division?
why not? you cant base it on next year either. But you can put Bayport in the Developmental Division
and if BTW lax power says so, oh my . it must be true. u are a joke
Beat down #1 tomorrow at Mt Sinai. could be by 10 plus over SWR.
Another Beat down #2 at ESM. Bayport you have 0 chance . will be by 10 plus.
And yet another #3 at Sayville. Huntington over Sayville large. Sayville Goalie will keep them in the game for a while.
Beat down #1 tomorrow at Mt Sinai. could be by 10 plus over SWR.
Another Beat down #2 at ESM. Bayport you have 0 chance . will be by 10 plus.
And yet another #3 at Sayville. Huntington over Sayville large. Sayville Goalie will keep them in the game for a while.
agree with the first two but not sure about Huntington coming out on top over sayville. We played both and I think Sayville will come out on top. Should be a great game either way. And btw who is the moron saying BP stands a chance against ESM somewhere on this thread, although ESM is plagued with injuries you couldn't tell the depth on their bench is pretty strong. I watched them play vs WH on Saturday several standing on the sidelines injured, from what I heard all D1 commits and yet even with typical non starters they looked solid. So good luck BP the score might not be by 10 but ESM will come out on top. Mt Sinai will prob have their third string in by half time against SWR...what the heck is going on w that program this year???
[quote=Anonymous]Beat down #1 tomorrow at Mt Sinai. could be by 10 plus over SWR.
Another Beat down #2 at ESM. Bayport you have 0 chance . will be by 10 plus.
And yet another #3 at Sayville. Huntington over Sayville large. Sayville Goalie will keep them in the game for a while. [/quote
I disagree on all three of these predictions-don't discount any of these teams. I think bbp Esm will be closer - they have some injuries that might hurt Esm. They barely best WHB - a weaker team than BBP in my opinion
Sayville is an athletic team and very good and can hold its own with Huntington.
Mt Sinai is unstoppable but even they don't take any team for granted
Beat down #1 tomorrow at Mt Sinai. could be by 10 plus over SWR.
Another Beat down #2 at ESM. Bayport you have 0 chance . will be by 10 plus.
And yet another #3 at Sayville. Huntington over Sayville large. Sayville Goalie will keep them in the game for a while.
Disagree on all but mount Sinai game. These games will be much closer. Team dynamics have changed due to injuries. ESM missing three key players. Bayport very strong this year
I think you are underestimating BBP a little. That said, here are the B division tiers
ESM
Huntington
didn't play Huntington but the results speak for themselves
Say
BBP
good teams; not as good as the top 2
WH
ISl
MP
RP
3 of them should make the playoffs but any of them could beat the other one on a given day but all four would have a very tough time against the top 2 and a tough time against the next 2
I don't want to come across as a moto but thats the way B division shapes up
BBP is actually a C team
St Anthony's, are you kidding me? I was at the game yesterday against Kellenberg because we play Anthony's later this week. Are you so insecure in yourselves as a team that you can't report the Kellenberg goalie's saves. She had an awesome game against you and yet nothing was reported. Try doing the right thing, or heaven forbid, the catholic thing, and acknowledge good play when it happens. That's pathetic. Karma may just come back to bite you in the butt. You killed them in the game, isn't that enough?
Rocky Point is going to come back they were just warming up .
I think you are underestimating BBP a little. That said, here are the B division tiers
ESM
Huntington
didn't play Huntington but the results speak for themselves
Say
BBP
good teams; not as good as the top 2
WH
ISl
MP
RP
3 of them should make the playoffs but any of them could beat the other one on a given day but all four would have a very tough time against the top 2 and a tough time against the next 2
I don't want to come across as a moto but thats the way B division shapes up
BBP is actually a C team
Beat down #1 tomorrow at Mt Sinai. could be by 10 plus over SWR.
Another Beat down #2 at ESM. Bayport you have 0 chance . will be by 10 plus.
And yet another #3 at Sayville. Huntington over Sayville large. Sayville Goalie will keep them in the game for a while.
Disagree on all but mount Sinai game. These games will be much closer. Team dynamics have changed due to injuries. ESM missing three key players. Bayport very strong this year
Bayport descent this year, very strong not really. ESM has injury issues with several key girls out, now have 7-8 th graders starting so BBP may give them a game, BBP will struggle to score but so will ESM. Look at West Bab with a key player out they are not even remotely the same team .
St Anthony's, are you kidding me? I was at the game yesterday against Kellenberg because we play Anthony's later this week. Are you so insecure in yourselves as a team that you can't report the Kellenberg goalie's saves. She had an awesome game against you and yet nothing was reported. Try doing the right thing, or heaven forbid, the catholic thing, and acknowledge good play when it happens. That's pathetic. Karma may just come back to bite you in the butt. You killed them in the game, isn't that enough?
I hope your scouting went well. why so interested in goalie save percentage?
st a's did nothing wrong. They do everything they can to avoid complete beat downs of weaker teams in their conference, everyone know this, in fact someone commented how they did good on taking it easy on trinity, I wish other teams on long island called off the dogs when up big
to think they on purpose deflated an opposing goalie's stats because it would look bad on them if the goalie showed more saves is just laint out weird. how could this look bad on them and who would it look bad to? sratching my head here
let the haters hate. stay the course, St anthonys. good luck on your game at the end of the week.
"Come On Man" for Kings Park (5 - 8). a poor team that has 8 losses and has beaten NOBODY decides to beat up on Southhampton (0 - 9). i THINK THE SCORE WAS 20 - 0 ..You should lose every game you play FOR NOW ON, to bad your not even making the playoffs. again. Your sportmanship is the WORST. The Kings Park AD should get a call about this game. I hope Sayville hears about this, so they beat you as bad, you know they could. like Mt sinai beat u by 8, ESM beat you by 10 Smith East beat you by 8. Lets go Sayville, throw them a beat down.....
Kings Park ,,,, nobody should beat anybody 20 to 0 . You should be ashamed of yourselfs. I don't care who scored what or when and how many girls scored. it should never happen, even if the other team didn't have a goalie. period. you will get yours . GO SAYVILLE.
Hey is ESM dad still padding goalies stats.
One score in.... ESM over BBP... would have been much worse if ESM didnt have injuries, main players did not play.
Another score in Huntington beats down Sayville 14 7 .. like I said.
Beat down #1 tomorrow at Mt Sinai. could be by 10 plus over SWR.
Another Beat down #2 at ESM. Bayport you have 0 chance . will be by 10 plus.
And yet another #3 at Sayville. Huntington over Sayville large. Sayville Goalie will keep them in the game for a while.
Disagree on all but mount Sinai game. These games will be much closer. Team dynamics have changed due to injuries. ESM missing three key players. Bayport very strong this year
Bayport descent this year, very strong not really. ESM has injury issues with several key girls out, now have 7-8 th graders starting so BBP may give them a game, BBP will struggle to score but so will ESM. Look at West Bab with a key player out they are not even remotely the same team .
Was a good game but I would have to say that the ESM sideline looks like a waiting room in the ER. 2 wheelchairs a set of crutches. Three with knee braces. An All American wrapped like she's just returning from war. If ESM doesn't get healthy they threepeat for counties may not happen. With three key players out and from the looks of it two key players on the field playing through knee pain this could be the end of their reign. On the bright side their 7/8th graders held their own in the game I commend the coach for putting them in and giving them the experience it's going to make the program that much stronger down the road. BP really didn't have anything special some lucky calls to control the ball was about all I saw!!
Beat down #1 tomorrow at Mt Sinai. could be by 10 plus over SWR.
Another Beat down #2 at ESM. Bayport you have 0 chance . will be by 10 plus.
And yet another #3 at Sayville. Huntington over Sayville large. Sayville Goalie will keep them in the game for a while.
Disagree on all but mount Sinai game. These games will be much closer. Team dynamics have changed due to injuries. ESM missing three key players. Bayport very strong this year
Bayport descent this year, very strong not really. ESM has injury issues with several key girls out, now have 7-8 th graders starting so BBP may give them a game, BBP will struggle to score but so will ESM. Look at West Bab with a key player out they are not even remotely the same team .
Was a good game but I would have to say that the ESM sideline looks like a waiting room in the ER. 2 wheelchairs a set of crutches. Three with knee braces. An All American wrapped like she's just returning from war. If ESM doesn't get healthy they threepeat for counties may not happen. With three key players out and from the looks of it two key players on the field playing through knee pain this could be the end of their reign. On the bright side their 7/8th graders held their own in the game I commend the coach for putting them in and giving them the experience it's going to make the program that much stronger down the road. BP really didn't have anything special some lucky calls to control the ball was about all I saw!!
exactly opposite of what I heard; that ESM had 14 players on the field,ie. the refs. ESM goalie came out of her circle multiple times to block bbp shooters and no shooting space was called. As of injuries, bbp has a couple of staters out with injuries as well.
This thread does supply entertainment value; if nothing else!
1-you can say what you want, but you are still not giving BBP enough credit you can only put your team out and play against whomever the other team puts out 1st someone says they will lose by 10 and when they lose by 1; it's because of the injuries you can't have it both ways.
2-KP might have won 20-0, but they had 13 girls score with no girl having more than three goals... I thought 20 was the magic number in lax, much like 5 is in soccer. It's not like when Islip or Bellport played these teams and have their stat padders score again and again.
My daughters team (a playoff contention team) not only puts in 2nd and 3rd line attack and middies in these games, they also bring in second tier defense to give them game situations; thats part of why the scores don't seem so bad and they get their team blasted all over back of the cage
A developmental league, much like they have in girls soccer, would benefit these teams.
Beat down #1 tomorrow at Mt Sinai. could be by 10 plus over SWR.
Another Beat down #2 at ESM. Bayport you have 0 chance . will be by 10 plus.
And yet another #3 at Sayville. Huntington over Sayville large. Sayville Goalie will keep them in the game for a while.
Disagree on all but mount Sinai game. These games will be much closer. Team dynamics have changed due to injuries. ESM missing three key players. Bayport very strong this year
Bayport descent this year, very strong not really. ESM has injury issues with several key girls out, now have 7-8 th graders starting so BBP may give them a game, BBP will struggle to score but so will ESM. Look at West Bab with a key player out they are not even remotely the same team .
Was a good game but I would have to say that the ESM sideline looks like a waiting room in the ER. 2 wheelchairs a set of crutches. Three with knee braces. An All American wrapped like she's just returning from war. If ESM doesn't get healthy they threepeat for counties may not happen. With three key players out and from the looks of it two key players on the field playing through knee pain this could be the end of their reign. On the bright side their 7/8th graders held their own in the game I commend the coach for putting them in and giving them the experience it's going to make the program that much stronger down the road. BP really didn't have anything special some lucky calls to control the ball was about all I saw!!
exactly opposite of what I heard; that ESM had 14 players on the field,ie. the refs. ESM goalie came out of her circle multiple times to block bbp shooters and no shooting space was called. As of injuries, bbp has a couple of staters out with injuries as well.
You're kidding, right? Pretty sure BBP had most of the calls but whatever makes you feel better. Key players from BBP out? Ok
And what happened with the MS SWR beatdown? Three goals does not constitute a beatdown and it's not like MS lets up, especially against SWR. Me thinks Mr prognosticator hopefully has another line of employement!
Beat down #1 tomorrow at Mt Sinai. could be by 10 plus over SWR.
Another Beat down #2 at ESM. Bayport you have 0 chance . will be by 10 plus.
And yet another #3 at Sayville. Huntington over Sayville large. Sayville Goalie will keep them in the game for a while.
Disagree on all but mount Sinai game. These games will be much closer. Team dynamics have changed due to injuries. ESM missing three key players. Bayport very strong this year
Bayport descent this year, very strong not really. ESM has injury issues with several key girls out, now have 7-8 th graders starting so BBP may give them a game, BBP will struggle to score but so will ESM. Look at West Bab with a key player out they are not even remotely the same team .
Was a good game but I would have to say that the ESM sideline looks like a waiting room in the ER. 2 wheelchairs a set of crutches. Three with knee braces. An All American wrapped like she's just returning from war. If ESM doesn't get healthy they threepeat for counties may not happen. With three key players out and from the looks of it two key players on the field playing through knee pain this could be the end of their reign. On the bright side their 7/8th graders held their own in the game I commend the coach for putting them in and giving them the experience it's going to make the program that much stronger down the road. BP really didn't have anything special some lucky calls to control the ball was about all I saw!!
exactly opposite of what I heard; that ESM had 14 players on the field,ie. the refs. ESM goalie came out of her circle multiple times to block bbp shooters and no shooting space was called. As of injuries, bbp has a couple of staters out with injuries as well.
This was a great game-always is with these two teams. Last year it was the same close game. The comment about the refs is ridiculous-there were bad calls both ways as there usually are. Keep it classy and call it what it was-a good game. The excuses make you sound like a sore loser. Not sure who BBP is out due to injuries-ESM missing four D1 players and injured players playing on the field plus 7th and 8th graders or I'm sure this game is not nearly as close.
"Come On Man" for Kings Park (5 - 8). a poor team that has 8 losses and has beaten NOBODY decides to beat up on Southhampton (0 - 9). i THINK THE SCORE WAS 20 - 0 ..You should lose every game you play FOR NOW ON, to bad your not even making the playoffs. again. Your sportmanship is the WORST. The Kings Park AD should get a call about this game. I hope Sayville hears about this, so they beat you as bad, you know they could. like Mt sinai beat u by 8, ESM beat you by 10 Smith East beat you by 8. Lets go Sayville, throw them a beat down.....
Must agree on the sportsmanship, or lack thereof, of Kings Park. They went through a handshake line saying, "Thank the ref, thank the ref," to their opponents after losing a game. Low class.
St Anthony's, are you kidding me? I was at the game yesterday against Kellenberg because we play Anthony's later this week. Are you so insecure in yourselves as a team that you can't report the Kellenberg goalie's saves. She had an awesome game against you and yet nothing was reported. Try doing the right thing, or heaven forbid, the catholic thing, and acknowledge good play when it happens. That's pathetic. Karma may just come back to bite you in the butt. You killed them in the game, isn't that enough?
I hope your scouting went well. why so interested in goalie save percentage?
st a's did nothing wrong. They do everything they can to avoid complete beat downs of weaker teams in their conference, everyone know this, in fact someone commented how they did good on taking it easy on trinity, I wish other teams on long island called off the dogs when up big
to think they on purpose deflated an opposing goalie's stats because it would look bad on them if the goalie showed more saves is just laint out weird. how could this look bad on them and who would it look bad to? sratching my head here
let the haters hate. stay the course, St anthonys. good luck on your game at the end of the week.
Get over yourself , there are plenty of teams who do not run up the score , maybe they are annoyed that you add saves to your goalies stats but take saves from opposing teams .
Hey is ESM dad still padding goalies stats.
if you ever watched an ESM game you would know dad doesn't need to pad her stats. She has the counties best defense in front of her and when they get to the cage she makes the saves. Did you watch the Mt Sinai game or the Sayville game maybe you should have before you wrote this!! She's going to do big things at Notre Dame
[quote=Anonymous]Hey is ESM dad still padding goalies stats.
if you ever watched an ESM game you would know dad doesn't need to pad her stats. She has the counties best defense in front of her and when they get to the cage she makes the saves. Did you watch the Mt Sinai game or the Sayville game maybe you should have before you wrote this!! She's going to do big things at Notre Dame [/quote
ESM has only given up 60 goals all season. The least out of any team in any division I think. Excellent team.
[quote=Anonymous]Hey is ESM dad still padding goalies stats.
if you ever watched an ESM game you would know dad doesn't need to pad her stats. She has the counties best defense in front of her and when they get to the cage she makes the saves. Did you watch the Mt Sinai game or the Sayville game maybe you should have before you wrote this!! She's going to do big things at Notre Dame [/quote
ESM has only given up 60 goals all season. The least out of any team in any division I think. Excellent team.
thats because every other team the coach plays the entire bench so when they are in need of someone from the bench they all know what to do and arent clueless. ESM plays only certain players and never even looks to the bench. I have witnessed more girls crying after an ESM win then any other team because of this. SO glad my child doesnt go there because how can you prepare a kid to play in college or for that matter in a game in case someone gets hurt if you NEVER look to your bench for subs. I am sure this will change when the golden goalie graduates but then again who knows bc she has younger siblings coming through...after all they are the stat keepers for the team!!!
[quote=Anonymous]Hey is ESM dad still padding goalies stats.
if you ever watched an ESM game you would know dad doesn't need to pad her stats. She has the counties best defense in front of her and when they get to the cage she makes the saves. Did you watch the Mt Sinai game or the Sayville game maybe you should have before you wrote this!! She's going to do big things at Notre Dame [/quote
ESM has only given up 60 goals all season. The least out of any team in any division I think. Excellent team.
thats because every other team the coach plays the entire bench so when they are in need of someone from the bench they all know what to do and arent clueless. ESM plays only certain players and never even looks to the bench. I have witnessed more girls crying after an ESM win then any other team because of this. SO glad my child doesnt go there because how can you prepare a kid to play in college or for that matter in a game in case someone gets hurt if you NEVER look to your bench for subs. I am sure this will change when the golden goalie graduates but then again who knows bc she has younger siblings coming through...after all they are the stat keepers for the team!!!
Your post makes no sense. The post was regarding the defense and the goalie, what does your post even mean. There are players hurt and the coach has put players in. Sorry if it's not who you think it should be. You're not on the team but have seen girls crying after games?
[quote=Anonymous]Hey is ESM dad still padding goalies stats.
if you ever watched an ESM game you would know dad doesn't need to pad her stats. She has the counties best defense in front of her and when they get to the cage she makes the saves. Did you watch the Mt Sinai game or the Sayville game maybe you should have before you wrote this!! She's going to do big things at Notre Dame [/quote
ESM has only given up 60 goals all season. The least out of any team in any division I think. Excellent team.
thats because every other team the coach plays the entire bench so when they are in need of someone from the bench they all know what to do and arent clueless. ESM plays only certain players and never even looks to the bench. I have witnessed more girls crying after an ESM win then any other team because of this. SO glad my child doesnt go there because how can you prepare a kid to play in college or for that matter in a game in case someone gets hurt if you NEVER look to your bench for subs. I am sure this will change when the golden goalie graduates but then again who knows bc she has younger siblings coming through...after all they are the stat keepers for the team!!!
Your post makes no sense. The post was regarding the defense and the goalie, what does your post even mean. There are players hurt and the coach has put players in. Sorry if it's not who you think it should be. You're not on the team but have seen girls crying after games?
I volunteer for another team to scout teams. My daughter is not at the varsity level yet. I have been to almost every ESM game. Didnt think I had to explain myself but ok hope this makes you happy!!
[quote=Anonymous]Hey is ESM dad still padding goalies stats.
if you ever watched an ESM game you would know dad doesn't need to pad her stats. She has the counties best defense in front of her and when they get to the cage she makes the saves. Did you watch the Mt Sinai game or the Sayville game maybe you should have before you wrote this!! She's going to do big things at Notre Dame [/quote
ESM has only given up 60 goals all season. The least out of any team in any division I think. Excellent team.
thats because every other team the coach plays the entire bench so when they are in need of someone from the bench they all know what to do and arent clueless. ESM plays only certain players and never even looks to the bench. I have witnessed more girls crying after an ESM win then any other team because of this. SO glad my child doesnt go there because how can you prepare a kid to play in college or for that matter in a game in case someone gets hurt if you NEVER look to your bench for subs. I am sure this will change when the golden goalie graduates but then again who knows bc she has younger siblings coming through...after all they are the stat keepers for the team!!!
Your post makes no sense. The post was regarding the defense and the goalie, what does your post even mean. There are players hurt and the coach has put players in. Sorry if it's not who you think it should be. You're not on the team but have seen girls crying after games?
ESM has three great defenders 22, 33, &7 that make up a solid crew in front of #21 the goalie. These girls are top notch in the county Im sorry no matter what anyone says they deserve praise!!
[quote=Anonymous]Hey is ESM dad still padding goalies stats.
if you ever watched an ESM game you would know dad doesn't need to pad her stats. She has the counties best defense in front of her and when they get to the cage she makes the saves. Did you watch the Mt Sinai game or the Sayville game maybe you should have before you wrote this!! She's going to do big things at Notre Dame [/quote
ESM has only given up 60 goals all season. The least out of any team in any division I think. Excellent team.
thats because every other team the coach plays the entire bench so when they are in need of someone from the bench they all know what to do and arent clueless. ESM plays only certain players and never even looks to the bench. I have witnessed more girls crying after an ESM win then any other team because of this. SO glad my child doesnt go there because how can you prepare a kid to play in college or for that matter in a game in case someone gets hurt if you NEVER look to your bench for subs. I am sure this will change when the golden goalie graduates but then again who knows bc she has younger siblings coming through...after all they are the stat keepers for the team!!!
Your post makes no sense. The post was regarding the defense and the goalie, what does your post even mean. There are players hurt and the coach has put players in. Sorry if it's not who you think it should be. You're not on the team but have seen girls crying after games?
This wasn't my post, but I know for a fact that ESM girls cry after wins, due to no subbing, politics, coach berating them, etc
and esm dad pads goalies stats, i seen him in action...
Does anyone know how the Suffolk County gilrs lacrosse playoff teams are determined. By record or total points from the Section XI standings. Does everyone qualify with a even record as in the past?
Suffolk D1
Bay Shore @ East Islip Bay Shore by 5, EI can't beat anybody
West Islip @ Sachem East WI large
West Babylon @ Ward Melville Ward Melville by 3, West Bab hurting
Northport @ Middle Country Mid Country by 5, Nport not that strong
I just called Kings Park AD, left a message for a call back. we will see if he returns call. Lets see if he has an explanation.
[quote=Anonymous]Hey is ESM dad still padding goalies stats.
if you ever watched an ESM game you would know dad doesn't need to pad her stats. She has the counties best defense in front of her and when they get to the cage she makes the saves. Did you watch the Mt Sinai game or the Sayville game maybe you should have before you wrote this!! She's going to do big things at Notre Dame [/quote
ESM has only given up 60 goals all season. The least out of any team in any division I think. Excellent team.
thats because every other team the coach plays the entire bench so when they are in need of someone from the bench they all know what to do and arent clueless. ESM plays only certain players and never even looks to the bench. I have witnessed more girls crying after an ESM win then any other team because of this. SO glad my child doesnt go there because how can you prepare a kid to play in college or for that matter in a game in case someone gets hurt if you NEVER look to your bench for subs. I am sure this will change when the golden goalie graduates but then again who knows bc she has younger siblings coming through...after all they are the stat keepers for the team!!!
Your post makes no sense. The post was regarding the defense and the goalie, what does your post even mean. There are players hurt and the coach has put players in. Sorry if it's not who you think it should be. You're not on the team but have seen girls crying after games?
This wasn't my post, but I know for a fact that ESM girls cry after wins, due to no subbing, politics, coach berating them, etc
They're not the only team that has people that don't get on the field.
there you go
she has younger siblings coming through...after all they are the stat keepers for the team!!! and the DAD
[quote=Anonymous]Hey is ESM dad still padding goalies stats.
if you ever watched an ESM game you would know dad doesn't need to pad her stats. She has the counties best defense in front of her and when they get to the cage she makes the saves. Did you watch the Mt Sinai game or the Sayville game maybe you should have before you wrote this!! She's going to do big things at Notre Dame [/quote
ESM has only given up 60 goals all season. The least out of any team in any division I think. Excellent team.
thats because every other team the coach plays the entire bench so when they are in need of someone from the bench they all know what to do and arent clueless. ESM plays only certain players and never even looks to the bench. I have witnessed more girls crying after an ESM win then any other team because of this. SO glad my child doesnt go there because how can you prepare a kid to play in college or for that matter in a game in case someone gets hurt if you NEVER look to your bench for subs. I am sure this will change when the golden goalie graduates but then again who knows bc she has younger siblings coming through...after all they are the stat keepers for the team!!!
Your post makes no sense. The post was regarding the defense and the goalie, what does your post even mean. There are players hurt and the coach has put players in. Sorry if it's not who you think it should be. You're not on the team but have seen girls crying after games?
This wasn't my post, but I know for a fact that ESM girls cry after wins, due to no subbing, politics, coach berating them, etc
Typical YJ coach!
there you go
she has younger siblings coming through...after all they are the stat keepers for the team!!! and the DAD
You are a coward and a lowlife talking about elementary aged children.
You people talking about a high school girl are such a bunch of cowards . You think her stats are padded yet you will say nothing because your a coward . My guess your own kids are embarrassed of you because you rant at home about how unfair it is and they cheat at the stats yet you are too much of a coward to do anything about it . My kid has played against her before and she is a top notch goalie and my daughter is looking forward to playing with her at school girls.Now stop being such a coward and say something if you feel there is an injustice being done otherwise shut your mouth and stop embarrassing your kid.
You people talking about a high school girl are such a bunch of cowards . You think her stats are padded yet you will say nothing because your a coward . My guess your own kids are embarrassed of you because you rant at home about how unfair it is and they cheat at the stats yet you are too much of a coward to do anything about it . My kid has played against her before and she is a top notch goalie and my daughter is looking forward to playing with her at school girls.Now stop being such a coward and say something if you feel there is an injustice being done otherwise shut your mouth and stop embarrassing your kid.
someone hit a nerve if your kid has never played for ESM or BT then you personally should shut your mouth!! She is a great person who cares very much for her kids. She makes mistakes like every other coach but at the end of the day all the girls love her?! So move on talk about something else
Does anyone know how the Suffolk County gilrs lacrosse playoff teams are determined. By record or total points from the Section XI standings. Does everyone qualify with a even record as in the past?
Top 13 teams by rating. There hasn't been a .500 record qualifier in the past.
You think her stats are padded yet you will say nothing because your a coward .
i KNOW HER STATS ARE PADDED AND I AM SAYING SO. EVERYBODY KNOWS AND TALKS ABOUT IT EXCEPT PEOPLE FROM ESM.
pretty pathetic if you knew the family personally you would never post that. Jealousy makes people do stupid stuff don't be jealous if your child worked half as hard as she has she might be just as good!!!
anyone who does not think becky thorn is a amazing coach after the success she brought her yellow jacket girls and high school team is stupid. the kids that don't play do not put in the off season work and there stick work proves it. sam is a outstanding goalie and to all that would like to disagrees its probably because your child got stuffed by her and shut down by esm's defense which is probably best on long island
You people talking about a high school girl are such a bunch of cowards . You think her stats are padded yet you will say nothing because your a coward . My guess your own kids are embarrassed of you because you rant at home about how unfair it is and they cheat at the stats yet you are too much of a coward to do anything about it . My kid has played against her before and she is a top notch goalie and my daughter is looking forward to playing with her at school girls.Now stop being such a coward and say something if you feel there is an injustice being done otherwise shut your mouth and stop embarrassing your kid.
someone hit a nerve if your kid has never played for ESM or BT then you personally should shut your mouth!! She is a great person who cares very much for her kids. She makes mistakes like every other coach but at the end of the day all the girls love her?! So move on talk about something else
Wow ,now I know why people think the parents of ESM players are dense, the post you are responding to was sticking up for the ESM goalie and said nothing about the coach
You people have no idea what you're saying. Samantha is an amazing goalie and I wouldn't want to have any other one. I have 2 of the greatest coaches. As for the crying we can do what ever we want. So back off!
You people talking about a high school girl are such a bunch of cowards . You think her stats are padded yet you will say nothing because your a coward . My guess your own kids are embarrassed of you because you rant at home about how unfair it is and they cheat at the stats yet you are too much of a coward to do anything about it . My kid has played against her before and she is a top notch goalie and my daughter is looking forward to playing with her at school girls.Now stop being such a coward and say something if you feel there is an injustice being done otherwise shut your mouth and stop embarrassing your kid.
someone hit a nerve if your kid has never played for ESM or BT then you personally should shut your mouth!! She is a great person who cares very much for her kids. She makes mistakes like every other coach but at the end of the day all the girls love her?! So move on talk about something else
Many of the girls definitely DO NOT love her!! That's a ridiculous statement!
Girls Lax Playoffs
Looks like Class A and Class C teams are all set, except for positioning.
Class B is almost set with the winner of Rocky Point Miller Place tomorrow in and the loser fighting it out with Kings Park and Bellport for the last spot; I think.
I have a novel idea...lets keep the playoff talk positive!
Thank God the Ortega sisters are already committed to college. Otherwise they might be in big trouble for kicking the Northport Queen Bee's butt today 14-9.
You people talking about a high school girl are such a bunch of cowards . You think her stats are padded yet you will say nothing because your a coward . My guess your own kids are embarrassed of you because you rant at home about how unfair it is and they cheat at the stats yet you are too much of a coward to do anything about it . My kid has played against her before and she is a top notch goalie and my daughter is looking forward to playing with her at school girls.Now stop being such a coward and say something if you feel there is an injustice being done otherwise shut your mouth and stop embarrassing your kid.
someone hit a nerve if your kid has never played for ESM or BT then you personally should shut your mouth!! She is a great person who cares very much for her kids. She makes mistakes like every other coach but at the end of the day all the girls love her?! So move on talk about something else
Many of the girls definitely DO NOT love her!! That's a ridiculous statement!
Yes they do. We are the ones supporting her on here and laughing at all of you parents who have nothing better to do with your lives. Our team group chat is pretty funny talking about all of you. Best coach best team! Fact! Fact! We love you BT!!!!
Does anyone know how the Suffolk County gilrs lacrosse playoff teams are determined. By record or total points from the Section XI standings. Does everyone qualify with a even record as in the past?
By Section XI standings/ Total Points.... Not by team's records.
Points are determined by strength of schedule. The higher ranked teams from last year play the top 2/3 of the division and the bottom of the division plays the lower 2/3 of it. It is done to keep Suffolk D1 competitive and avoid the blowouts. So a middle of the road bottom half of the division team with a top 13 record most likely will not make the playoffs due to the weak teams they beat .
So how much money do the parents usually give the coach as a gift at the end of the season?
Does anyone know how the Suffolk County gilrs lacrosse playoff teams are determined. By record or total points from the Section XI standings. Does everyone qualify with a even record as in the past?
By Section XI standings/ Total Points.... Not by team's records.
In what "past" did .500 teams make it to the playoffs?
So how much money do the parents usually give the coach as a gift at the end of the season?
For Northport it is usually about $2,500 per kid.
Mt Sinai much better D than ESM, and gaolie also.....WHO WON....
Section XI Div 1 only 12 teams make playoffs, 1st 4 get a bye. It goes by power points. playoff teams below
West Islip 12-0-0 14-0-0 170.370
Northport 9-3-0 9-5-0 146.200
Hauppauge 10-2-0 11-2-0 142.480
Middle Country 9-3-0 10-4-0 142.030
Smithtown West 9-3-0 10-3-0 139.540
Bay Shore 7-5-0 7-5-0 128.320
Ward Melville 7-5-0 8-5-0 127.490
West Babylon 7-5-0 9-5-0 126.650
Smithtown East 8-4-0 9-4-0 126.020
Sachem East 7-5-0 8-5-0 125.810
Longwood 9-3-0 10-4-0 119.750
Patchogue-Medrd 7-5-0 8-5-0 107.700
comparing sect xi to lax power.
Sect XI Team Rankings Lax Power
1 West Islip 1
2 Northport 5
3 Hauppauge 2
4 Middle Country 3
5 Smithtown West 4
6 Bay Shore 7
7 Ward Melville 9
8 West Babylon 6
9 Smithtown East 10
10 Sachem East 8
11 Longwood 11
12 Patchogue-Med 13
13 Sachem North 14
14 Commack HS NA
Not much difference EI ranked 12 on Lax power for Suffolk but 16 in Sect xi. these last few games will could give some insight to the playoffs. Good luck to all of the girls this is a very impressive list. Represent well ladies!!!!
Thank God the Ortega sisters are already committed to college. Otherwise they might be in big trouble for kicking the Northport Queen Bee's butt today 14-9.
How does Northport underperform like this with girls who all play together year round?
Big Games Today
Today my friends Kings Park gets there's. Pay back is a b****. Sayville will spank Kings Park like a little baby. and they deserve it for putting up 20 on a 0 - 9 team.
Mt Sinai over Islip by 12, will never be close.
BBP over Harborfields large
Babylon over Comsewog by 4
ESM over Matt/Gpt large
Rocky Point over Miller Place by 2
Huntington trashes West Hampton.
Mt Sinai much better D than ESM, and gaolie also.....WHO WON....
not only is Mt Sinai D and goalie better, there offense much better, and coach is clearly better.
and parents are better ... lol
Section XI Div 1 only 12 teams make playoffs, 1st 4 get a bye. It goes by power points. playoff teams below
West Islip 12-0-0 14-0-0 170.370
Northport 9-3-0 9-5-0 146.200
Hauppauge 10-2-0 11-2-0 142.480
Middle Country 9-3-0 10-4-0 142.030
Smithtown West 9-3-0 10-3-0 139.540
Bay Shore 7-5-0 7-5-0 128.320
Ward Melville 7-5-0 8-5-0 127.490
West Babylon 7-5-0 9-5-0 126.650
Smithtown East 8-4-0 9-4-0 126.020
Sachem East 7-5-0 8-5-0 125.810
Longwood 9-3-0 10-4-0 119.750
Patchogue-Medrd 7-5-0 8-5-0 107.700
Actually, if you look at Section XI bracket, the top 13 get in, and the first 3 get a bye
You people talking about a high school girl are such a bunch of cowards . You think her stats are padded yet you will say nothing because your a coward . My guess your own kids are embarrassed of you because you rant at home about how unfair it is and they cheat at the stats yet you are too much of a coward to do anything about it . My kid has played against her before and she is a top notch goalie and my daughter is looking forward to playing with her at school girls.Now stop being such a coward and say something if you feel there is an injustice being done otherwise shut your mouth and stop embarrassing your kid.
someone hit a nerve if your kid has never played for ESM or BT then you personally should shut your mouth!! She is a great person who cares very much for her kids. She makes mistakes like every other coach but at the end of the day all the girls love her?! So move on talk about something else
Many of the girls definitely DO NOT love her!! That's a ridiculous statement!
Yes they do. We are the ones supporting her on here and laughing at all of you parents who have nothing better to do with your lives. Our team group chat is pretty funny talking about all of you. Best coach best team! Fact! Fact! We love you BT!!!!
Let me guess you're last name starts with an H
Section XI Div 1 only 12 teams make playoffs, 1st 4 get a bye. It goes by power points. playoff teams below
West Islip 12-0-0 14-0-0 170.370
Northport 9-3-0 9-5-0 146.200
Hauppauge 10-2-0 11-2-0 142.480
Middle Country 9-3-0 10-4-0 142.030
Smithtown West 9-3-0 10-3-0 139.540
Bay Shore 7-5-0 7-5-0 128.320
Ward Melville 7-5-0 8-5-0 127.490
West Babylon 7-5-0 9-5-0 126.650
Smithtown East 8-4-0 9-4-0 126.020
Sachem East 7-5-0 8-5-0 125.810
Longwood 9-3-0 10-4-0 119.750
Patchogue-Medrd 7-5-0 8-5-0 107.700
top 13 teams make the playoffs. 1,2,3 seed get a bye
Obviously they have a better gaolie ... I don't even know what that is but we do have a better goalie *
no you are wrong , 12 teams get in playoffs , top 4 get a bye. call section xi.
Actually, if you look at Section XI bracket, the top 13 get in, and the first 3 get a bye,
AGAIN... SECTION XI BRACKET IS WRONG.... 12 TEAMS, 4 GET A BYE.
I HOPE THIS IS THE END OF THIS TOPIC.
Get a grip. You sound like such a MORON. This is girls HS Lacrosse. Are you driving around LI scouting or going by what you see in the paper. Are you the Jimmy The Greek of Girls HS Lacrosse?
excuse me ......Jenny the Greek
Actually, if you look at Section XI bracket, the top 13 get in, and the first 3 get a bye,
AGAIN... SECTION XI BRACKET IS WRONG.... 12 TEAMS, 4 GET A BYE.
I HOPE THIS IS THE END OF THIS TOPIC.
Maybe Cage can contact Section and rectify the issue so you don't have a stroke...
Yes they do. We are the ones supporting her on here and laughing at all of you parents who have nothing better to do with your lives. Our team group chat is pretty funny talking about all of you. Best coach best team! Fact! Fact! We love you BT!!!!
Shouldn't you be in class. tell your mom to stop making up sh**.
Yes they do. We are the ones supporting her on here and laughing at all of you parents who have nothing better to do with your lives. Our team group chat is pretty funny talking about all of you. Best coach best team! Fact! Fact! We love you BT!!!!
Shouldn't you be in class. tell your mom to stop making up sh**.
lol! that was obviously the mom of one of the chosen ones!
You people talking about a high school girl are such a bunch of cowards . You think her stats are padded yet you will say nothing because your a coward . My guess your own kids are embarrassed of you because you rant at home about how unfair it is and they cheat at the stats yet you are too much of a coward to do anything about it . My kid has played against her before and she is a top notch goalie and my daughter is looking forward to playing with her at school girls.Now stop being such a coward and say something if you feel there is an injustice being done otherwise shut your mouth and stop embarrassing your kid.
someone hit a nerve if your kid has never played for ESM or BT then you personally should shut your mouth!! She is a great person who cares very much for her kids. She makes mistakes like every other coach but at the end of the day all the girls love her?! So move on talk about something else
Many of the girls definitely DO NOT love her!! That's a ridiculous statement!
Yes they do. We are the ones supporting her on here and laughing at all of you parents who have nothing better to do with your lives. Our team group chat is pretty funny talking about all of you. Best coach best team! Fact! Fact! We love you BT!!!!
Let me guess you're last name starts with an H
ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS IF YOU DONT LIVE IN OUR TOWN MIND YOUR BUSINESS NO ONE ASKS YOUR OPINION NOR DO WE WANT IT..END OF STORY!!! OUR GIRLS ARE THE TRUE DEFINITION OF FAMILY AND STAND BY EACH OTHER NO MATTER WHAT. IF THEY ARE STARTERS OR SECOND STRING THE AMOUNT THEY CARE FOR EACH OTHER IS WHAT MATTERS MOST. MOVE ON TO OTHER THINGS...PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN CHILDREN!!
Mt Sinai much better D than ESM, and gaolie also.....WHO WON....
not only is Mt Sinai D and goalie better, there offense much better, and coach is clearly better.
and parents are better ... lol
clearly you dont realize that most of the ESM kids and Parents are very good friends stop stirring the pot...immaturity on this page is ridiculous. The two coaches are even great friends. What better way for the number 1 and number 2 teams to play was into a sudden death overtime...get over yourself people and GROW UP!!!
You people talking about a high school girl are such a bunch of cowards . You think her stats are padded yet you will say nothing because your a coward . My guess your own kids are embarrassed of you because you rant at home about how unfair it is and they cheat at the stats yet you are too much of a coward to do anything about it . My kid has played against her before and she is a top notch goalie and my daughter is looking forward to playing with her at school girls.Now stop being such a coward and say something if you feel there is an injustice being done otherwise shut your mouth and stop embarrassing your kid.
someone hit a nerve if your kid has never played for ESM or BT then you personally should shut your mouth!! She is a great person who cares very much for her kids. She makes mistakes like every other coach but at the end of the day all the girls love her?! So move on talk about something else
Many of the girls definitely DO NOT love her!! That's a ridiculous statement!
Yes they do. We are the ones supporting her on here and laughing at all of you parents who have nothing better to do with your lives. Our team group chat is pretty funny talking about all of you. Best coach best team! Fact! Fact! We love you BT!!!!
Let me guess you're last name starts with an H
ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS IF YOU DONT LIVE IN OUR TOWN MIND YOUR BUSINESS NO ONE ASKS YOUR OPINION NOR DO WE WANT IT..END OF STORY!!! OUR GIRLS ARE THE TRUE DEFINITION OF FAMILY AND STAND BY EACH OTHER NO MATTER WHAT. IF THEY ARE STARTERS OR SECOND STRING THE AMOUNT THEY CARE FOR EACH OTHER IS WHAT MATTERS MOST. MOVE ON TO OTHER THINGS...PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR OWN CHILDREN!!
It's not ridiculous, and I do live in "your" town. This is an open forum, which is why you don't need to ask my opinion, and you don't decide when it's end of story.
If you live in "OUR TOWN" and your daughter plays on "OUR TEAM" then speak up in person, stop being a coward and hiding behind a keyboard!! My guess is you either A are just a pot stirrer because most of us parents talk frequently and we are all on the same page about our girls and their coaches or B you are a disgruntal parent whose kid is on JV and you felt or feel that they should be on varsity!!! Move on or speak out in person stop trying to cause problems where there arent any!!
And the horrible coach goes to , Bellport, your 2 superstars running up their numbers today and your loser coach to afraid to stop them. We get it you are close to the top of the leader board because you run up your numbers against terrible teams , it doesn't look good just pathetic.
And the horrible coach goes to , Bellport, your 2 superstars running up their numbers today and your loser coach to afraid to stop them. We get it you are close to the top of the leader board because you run up your numbers against terrible teams , it doesn't look good just pathetic.
The winning percentage of the teams that Bellport beat in D2 is .194 (14-58) plus they had Copaigue as a non league game They got an easy schedule this year because they sucked last year. They will have to put their big girl pants on next year as the competition will be tougher but they will return their big two ball hogs and I believe their third ball hog.
Bellport is playing the sister ball hog team in their last game; you know, the team that was made famous by newsday!
Anyone know the score of the whb- Huntington girls game today ?
Anyone know the score of the whb- Huntington girls game today ?
Huntington won 13-10
Big Games Today
Today my friends Kings Park gets there's. Pay back is a b****. Sayville will spank Kings Park like a little baby. and they deserve it for putting up 20 on a 0 - 9 team. Sayville by 4 not a big spanking!
Mt Sinai over Islip by 12, will never be close. Spot on!
BBP over Harborfields large BBP by 2
Babylon over Comsewog by 4 Bab by 1 still winning but missing their star
ESM over Matt/Gpt large by a touchdown
Rocky Point over Miller Place by 2 Miller Place by 5
Huntington trashes West Hampton.
Hunt by 3
Every game right except for the Miller Place Win over Rocky Point and that was the closest game on paper but the spankings you envisioned did not materialize maybe because of the weather?
Huntington 13-10 over whb
Anyone know the score of the whb- Huntington girls game today ?
Huntington won 13-9. Good that the YJ coach at Huntington is making sure her one YJ is getting all of her goals.
And the horrible coach goes to , Bellport, your 2 superstars running up their numbers today and your loser coach to afraid to stop them. We get it you are close to the top of the leader board because you run up your numbers against terrible teams , it doesn't look good just pathetic.
The winning percentage of the teams that Bellport beat in D2 is .194 (14-58) plus they had Copaigue as a non league game They got an easy schedule this year because they sucked last year. They will have to put their big girl pants on next year as the competition will be tougher but they will return their big two ball hogs and I believe their third ball hog.
Bellport is playing the sister ball hog team in their last game; you know, the team that was made famous by newsday!
Forget the Newday rankings, I figured out how to truly rate all the top girls on Long Island. Come on this thread and look at the players that everyone keeps bringing up and bashing as stat ladder, ballhogs etc....... These are the top rank players. They should also include a jealousy power ranking, so you parents feel like you helped contributed to something.
If you live in "OUR TOWN" and your daughter plays on "OUR TEAM" then speak up in person, stop being a coward and hiding behind a keyboard!! My guess is you either A are just a pot stirrer because most of us parents talk frequently and we are all on the same page about our girls and their coaches or B you are a disgruntal parent whose kid is on JV and you felt or feel that they should be on varsity!!! Move on or speak out in person stop trying to cause problems where there arent any!!
Oh sure...there aren't any problems...yeah, right!
Larry, can someone post what the playoff seedings look like now that the regular season is over? Do the teams return to the appropriate A,B and C conferences?
Is North Shore a B or and A School?
If you live in "OUR TOWN" and your daughter plays on "OUR TEAM" then speak up in person, stop being a coward and hiding behind a keyboard!! My guess is you either A are just a pot stirrer because most of us parents talk frequently and we are all on the same page about our girls and their coaches or B you are a disgruntal parent whose kid is on JV and you felt or feel that they should be on varsity!!! Move on or speak out in person stop trying to cause problems where there arent any!!
Oh sure...there aren't any problems...yeah, right!
speak up coward!!! In person not hidden behind the keyboard. BT is a great person and coach as is SG. If you feel the need to discredit them say it and sign your name to it, otherwise nothing you say in my opinion is valid!!!!
Larry, can someone post what the playoff seedings look like now that the regular season is over? Do the teams return to the appropriate A,B and C conferences?
The season isn't over until next week.
West Islip is hosting Hauppauge today. These two teams seem to be having great seasons, quietly. How good are these teams? Can we please get back to what this topic was supposed to be? Thanks.
If you live in "OUR TOWN" and your daughter plays on "OUR TEAM" then speak up in person, stop being a coward and hiding behind a keyboard!! My guess is you either A are just a pot stirrer because most of us parents talk frequently and we are all on the same page about our girls and their coaches or B you are a disgruntal parent whose kid is on JV and you felt or feel that they should be on varsity!!! Move on or speak out in person stop trying to cause problems where there arent any!!
Oh sure...there aren't any problems...yeah, right!
speak up coward!!! In person not hidden behind the keyboard. BT is a great person and coach as is SG. If you feel the need to discredit them say it and sign your name to it, otherwise nothing you say in my opinion is valid!!!!
speak up, so it gets worse for my daughter? BT a great person? wow...never mentioned SG. don't care what you think is valid!
Classy move by the Garden City coach on Senior day. Doesn't start 3 seniors against the last place team. That sends a nice message about loyalty
If you live in "OUR TOWN" and your daughter plays on "OUR TEAM" then speak up in person, stop being a coward and hiding behind a keyboard!! My guess is you either A are just a pot stirrer because most of us parents talk frequently and we are all on the same page about our girls and their coaches or B you are a disgruntal parent whose kid is on JV and you felt or feel that they should be on varsity!!! Move on or speak out in person stop trying to cause problems where there arent any!!
Oh sure...there aren't any problems...yeah, right!
speak up coward!!! In person not hidden behind the keyboard. BT is a great person and coach as is SG. If you feel the need to discredit them say it and sign your name to it, otherwise nothing you say in my opinion is valid!!!!
You are a fool if you think someone will sign their name to a true yet damaging post. You are also a fool if you believe everything you read.
Where there is smoke there is usually fire... And every story has at least 3 sides, sometimes even more!
Drop the details so we can evaluate the situation. For those of you who say hiding behind a post is cowardly... I say your statement are bully like. This is the new age with constant media. We all need to learn how to deal and process the information.
Is North Shore a B or and A School?
C School
Playoffs look to be as follows for B
ESM # 1.. did enough early on to get the seed even with one more game left
# 2 and # 3: Sayville and Huntington (either combination depending on last game of season)
#4 and # 5: Islip and WH
# 6 seems to be set for Miller Place with a win against RP
# 7 seems to be Rocky Point with EH coming in at # 8
West Islip is hosting Hauppauge today. These two teams seem to be having great seasons, quietly. How good are these teams? Can we please get back to what this topic was supposed to be? Thanks.
West Islip has beaten everyone in D1. They haven't blown away the top teams but have beaten them all. Hauppauge has a couple of losses (to Sachem East and Northport) which makes you question where they really are. But they have some impressive wins (vs CSH, Bayshore and West Bab) which also makes you question where they really are... Should be an exciting game.
Classy move by the Garden City coach on Senior day. Doesn't start 3 seniors against the last place team. That sends a nice message about loyalty
CSH coach did the same thing.
Not the only school that left Seniors on the bench at Senior game. Sad that humility is sacrificed at any cost
Playoffs look to be as follows for B
ESM # 1.. did enough early on to get the seed even with one more game left
# 2 and # 3: Sayville and Huntington (either combination depending on last game of season)
#4 and # 5: Islip and WH
# 6 seems to be set for Miller Place with a win against RP
# 7 seems to be Rocky Point with EH coming in at # 8
My daughters team is in the slot that could either play Huntington or Sayville. It doesn't matter to them, but I would stay away from Huntington.
Hate to take the chalk but it looks like a ESM Hunt final
C playoffs teams are set with MS 1 Baby/BBP 2/3 SWR 4 and Matt 5 they should count MS as having a loss if they win by less than 5 goals!
A playoff teams are set but there is still jockeying for position; I'll let someone with more knowledge of these teams do the handicapping as I only know some the girls from travel.
clearly you dont realize that most of the ESM kids and Parents are very good friends stop stirring the pot...immaturity on this page is ridiculous. The two coaches are even great friends. What better way for the number 1 and number 2 teams to play was into a sudden death overtime...get over yourself people and GROW UP!!!
who gives a crap if they are friends, all i said frotop to bottom Mt Sinai is much better.
And the horrible coach goes to , Bellport, your 2 superstars running up their numbers today and your loser coach to afraid to stop them. We get it you are close to the top of the leader board because you run up your numbers against terrible teams , it doesn't look good just pathetic.
those 2 are not super stars. ok players but come on now.
D1 big games
Hauppauge @ West Islip West Islip to strong , by 4. Hauppauge 2nd best team in D1
Smithtown West @ West Babylon Smith West by 8. West Bab injuries
Smithtown East @ Northport If Smith East cleans it up, by 4
Sayville @ Farmingdale Farmingdale by 6, Sayville go back to suffolk, out of your league
Do not count out middle country... impressive wins over ward melville and northport...
With one week left in Suffolk Season is there any clarification on the number of teams that qualify for League 1 playoffs ? Is it 12 or 13 ?
Classy move by the Garden City coach on Senior day. Doesn't start 3 seniors against the last place team. That sends a nice message about loyalty
CSH coach did the same thing.
That's rotten.
West Islip is hosting Hauppauge today. These two teams seem to be having great seasons, quietly. How good are these teams? Can we please get back to what this topic was supposed to be? Thanks.
West Islip has beaten everyone in D1. They haven't blown away the top teams but have beaten them all. Hauppauge has a couple of losses (to Sachem East and Northport) which makes you question where they really are. But they have some impressive wins (vs CSH, Bayshore and West Bab) which also makes you question where they really are... Should be an exciting game.
Some DI schools fading due to injuries to key players - West Bab and Sachem East. Others are getting their key players back in the game - Bay Shore and Northport. Playoffs should be interesting with West Islip and Middle County surging, although if one of the two sisters on MC gets hurt, there goes their season - like over at Sachem East.Toast. Northport and Hauppauge can't be ignored. NP and their Florida commit has to stay healthy now. Lets see what Hauppaupe does vs. WI today.
With one week left in Suffolk Season is there any clarification on the number of teams that qualify for League 1 playoffs ? Is it 12 or 13 ?
Section XI website says 13, but it does say "tentative". With dates and times associated with the seedings I would guess 13. Not sure where the 12 is coming from.
With one week left in Suffolk Season is there any clarification on the number of teams that qualify for League 1 playoffs ? Is it 12 or 13 ?
Section XI website says 13, but it does say "tentative". With dates and times associated with the seedings I would guess 13. Not sure where the 12 is coming from.
A poster yesterday had an aneurism yelling about 12 teams.... Hope he's ok!
Classy move by the Garden City coach on Senior day. Doesn't start 3 seniors against the last place team. That sends a nice message about loyalty
CSH coach did the same thing.
That's rotten.
Minimun the first 5 minutes and if you're confortably up, the last 5
Classy move by the Garden City coach on Senior day. Doesn't start 3 seniors against the last place team. That sends a nice message about loyalty
CSH coach did the same thing.
That's rotten.
couldn't give them just a few minutes and if the game looked tougher than expected make a quick sub. Sad way to end their varsity years
Any successful program always plays their starters and only substitues when necessarry and the substitues or playing time has nothing to do with politics. If you're child is not getting enough playing time they clearly don't meet the expectations, don't put enough effort in, or just simply shouldn't be on the team. At a highschool level nobody cares about making a player happy by putting them in the game to lift up their self esteem when it puts the game at risk. Every coach wants to win. If you're child is upset because they are not playing then they are in for a rude awakening at the college level if they even make it. Go ahead and be "SO glad" youre child doesn't go to ESM i'm sure they'll make it far if they're babied. ESM has a successful program and have made it to LIC's the past two years. Facts don't lie. You can't take anything from that program and the coaching is clearly working with the success they've been having. In the end, the parents complaining and being immature need to stop because you're not changing anything and in the real world this doesn't get you anywhere but trouble and you're setting a bad example for your children.
Classy move by the Garden City coach on Senior day. Doesn't start 3 seniors against the last place team. That sends a nice message about loyalty
CSH coach did the same thing.
That's rotten.
couldn't give them just a few minutes and if the game looked tougher than expected make a quick sub. Sad way to end their varsity years
What was the score of the BBP vs. Cold Spring Harbor game today? Not listed in Newsday.
A poster yesterday had an aneurism yelling about 12 teams.... Hope he's ok!
I called section xi, they said 12 teams, top 4 get bye.
Classy move by the Garden City coach on Senior day. Doesn't start 3 seniors against the last place team. That sends a nice message about loyalty
CSH coach did the same thing.
Its the YJ way!
I just got home from the West Islip/ Hauppauge game. WOW the game was a battle! WI 12 H 11 in 4OT. Hauppauge has some team. Don't want to play them again this year!
Can someone please post the Nassau playoff bracket when available? Coaches were meeting tonight. Thank you.
A poster yesterday had an aneurism yelling about 12 teams.... Hope he's ok!
I called section xi, they said 12 teams, top 4 get bye.
Then you have a great battle for 12th between Sachem North and Patchogue/Medford.
A poster yesterday had an aneurism yelling about 12 teams.... Hope he's ok!
I called section xi, they said 12 teams, top 4 get bye.
Every D1 coach I spoke to says 13. Why doesn't Section XI fix the website? Gonna have some cranky folks at #13!!!
Can someone please post the Nassau playoff bracket when available? Coaches were meeting tonight. Thank you.
Click on the Section VIII tab on the left side of this page. Takes to their website. Nothing posted yet.
Classy move by the Garden City coach on Senior day. Doesn't start 3 seniors against the last place team. That sends a nice message about loyalty
CSH coach did the same thing.
Its the YJ way!
GC coach is not affiliated with YJ club. unfortunately speculation is GC is becoming a pay to play club in it's way.
Classy move by the Garden City coach on Senior day. Doesn't start 3 seniors against the last place team. That sends a nice message about loyalty
CSH coach did the same thing.
That's rotten.
couldn't give them just a few minutes and if the game looked tougher than expected make a quick sub. Sad way to end their varsity years
What was the score of the BBP vs. Cold Spring Harbor game today? Not listed in Newsday.
We sent someone to video tape this game. Game was not played. There were no referees which is shocking because it was a double header with Farmingdale playing Sayville right after. Kind of strange.
Is North Shore a B or and A School?
C School
I think North Shore is now a "B" school, CSH will have a cake walk in Nassau "c"
Classy move by the Garden City coach on Senior day. Doesn't start 3 seniors against the last place team. That sends a nice message about loyalty
CSH coach did the same thing.
That's rotten.
couldn't give them just a few minutes and if the game looked tougher than expected make a quick sub. Sad way to end their varsity years
What was the score of the BBP vs. Cold Spring Harbor game today? Not listed in Newsday.
We sent someone to video tape this game. Game was not played. There were no referees which is shocking because it was a double header with Farmingdale playing Sayville right after. Kind of strange.
Not sure about the refs...but it was a Lax Duel Tourn The 4 teams played to raise money and awareness for Downs Syndrome
Classy move by the Garden City coach on Senior day. Doesn't start 3 seniors against the last place team. That sends a nice message about loyalty
CSH coach did the same thing.
That's rotten.
couldn't give them just a few minutes and if the game looked tougher than expected make a quick sub. Sad way to end their varsity years
What was the score of the BBP vs. Cold Spring Harbor game today? Not listed in Newsday.
We sent someone to video tape this game. Game was not played. There were no referees which is shocking because it was a double header with Farmingdale playing Sayville right after. Kind of strange.
When you say "we", who exactly is we?
playoff teams are set ... seedings could change.... congrats to thee teams
DIV I (contest details)
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 177.870
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 152.480
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.110
Hauppauge 10-3-0 11-3-0 142.940
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-4-0 135.880
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 133.120
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.950
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.940
Bay Shore 7-5-0 7-5-0 127.360
Smithtown East 8-5-0 9-5-0 123.140
Longwood 9-4-0 10-5-0 114.880
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.290
playoff teams are set ... seedings could change.... congrats to thee teams
DIV I (contest details)
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 177.870
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 152.480
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.110
Hauppauge 10-3-0 11-3-0 142.940
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-4-0 135.880
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 133.120
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.950
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.940
Bay Shore 7-5-0 7-5-0 127.360
Smithtown East 8-5-0 9-5-0 123.140
Longwood 9-4-0 10-5-0 114.880
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.290
Can't remember the last time East Islip not in playoffs. Wow.
Was at West Islip High yesterday and caught the girls game vs. Hauppauge. What a game! West Islip has a fantastic team, but was gifted the game yesterday by the refs. The refs disallowed the winning goal by a girl from Hauppauge. What was so surprising to us was how the refs did the stick check, after the go-ahead goal by Hauppauge, with seconds left on the clock. He jammed the ball into the pocket of her stick, in full view of everyone, with so much force, ANY girls stick would've failed. I went there to enjoy Senior Day, and I did. Exciting game, but unfortunately the refs dictated the outcome of the game, not the girls. Good luck to both teams in the playoffs. Congrats to all the Seniors for West Islip. Great job by the students yesterday, giving the game a real playoff atmosphere.
playoff teams are set ... seedings could change.... congrats to thee teams
DIV I (contest details)
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 177.870
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 152.480
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.110
Hauppauge 10-3-0 11-3-0 142.940
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-4-0 135.880
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 133.120
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.950
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.940
Bay Shore 7-5-0 7-5-0 127.360
Smithtown East 8-5-0 9-5-0 123.140
Longwood 9-4-0 10-5-0 114.880
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.290
Can't Pat-Med still get in with a win against connetquot and a sachem north loss?
playoff teams are set ... seedings could change.... congrats to thee teams
DIV I (contest details)
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 177.870
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 152.480
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.110
Hauppauge 10-3-0 11-3-0 142.940
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-4-0 135.880
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 133.120
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.950
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.940
Bay Shore 7-5-0 7-5-0 127.360
Smithtown East 8-5-0 9-5-0 123.140
Longwood 9-4-0 10-5-0 114.880
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.290
Can't Pat-Med still get in with a win against connetquot and a sachem north loss?
It'll be close but probably not.
probable playoffs for C Division
Mt. Sinai
Bayport-Blue Point
Babylon
Shoreham-Wading River
Mattituck / Greenport / Southold
probable playoffs for B division
Eastport-South Manor
Sayville
Huntington
Islip
Westhampton
Miller Place
Rocky Point
probable playoffs for C Division
Mt. Sinai
Bayport-Blue Point
Babylon
Shoreham-Wading River
Mattituck / Greenport / Southold
skip the playoffs and let Mt Sinai move on to play Nassau winner
probable playoffs for B division
Eastport-South Manor
Sayville
Huntington
Islip
Westhampton
Miller Place
Rocky Point
skip the playoffs here also so ESM can get healthy and play Nassau winner...
playoff teams are set ... seedings could change.... congrats to thee teams
DIV I (contest details)
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 177.870
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 152.480
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.110
Hauppauge 10-3-0 11-3-0 142.940
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-4-0 135.880
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 133.120
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.950
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.940
Bay Shore 7-5-0 7-5-0 127.360
Smithtown East 8-5-0 9-5-0 123.140
Longwood 9-4-0 10-5-0 114.880
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.290
Can't remember the last time East Islip not in playoffs. Wow.
EI lost 4 games by 1 goal , 1 game by 2 goals , 1 game by 4 goals..... bad coaching this year by EI.
playoff teams are set ... seedings could change.... congrats to thee teams
DIV I (contest details)
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 177.870
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 152.480
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.110
Hauppauge 10-3-0 11-3-0 142.940
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-4-0 135.880
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 133.120
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.950
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.940
Bay Shore 7-5-0 7-5-0 127.360
Smithtown East 8-5-0 9-5-0 123.140
Longwood 9-4-0 10-5-0 114.880
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.290
Can't remember the last time East Islip not in playoffs. Wow.
EI lost 4 games by 1 goal , 1 game by 2 goals , 1 game by 4 goals..... bad coaching this year by EI.
How can you say that about EI How many did you graduate last year. And how many of them were over 5'10". Makes a difference.
Yes you had a wicked 5 game slide with the best teams. Didn't hear about the coaching back then.
Your wins came to teams with losing records. The teams you beat had 15 wins in total. Yes you were in some games but your season was like your last two games. Bayshore a power house now that they are healthy showed you can't hang with the top teams. Commack who has beaten teams with 19 wins and lost to all the power teams lately is not a feather in your cap.
probable playoffs for C Division
Mt. Sinai
Bayport-Blue Point
Babylon
Shoreham-Wading River
Mattituck / Greenport / Southold
skip the playoffs and let Mt Sinai move on to play Nassau winner
They might as well skip the Long Island championship and just go to states. They have 1 more year to dominate in the C division then they fall off a cliff .
How important are the final season Newsday stats? Should a player mention them when emailing a college? Thank you
How important are the final season Newsday stats? Should a player mention them when emailing a college? Thank you
Couldn't hurt..." Hey coach.. Just finished my season, my team was .x wins and x losses. I had x goals and X assists.. We made the playoffs .."
How important are the final season Newsday stats? Should a player mention them when emailing a college? Thank you
Couldn't hurt..." Hey coach.. Just finished my season, my team was .x wins and x losses. I had x goals and X assists.. We made the playoffs .."
Thank you very much
probable playoffs for C Division
Mt. Sinai
Bayport-Blue Point
Babylon
Shoreham-Wading River
Mattituck / Greenport / Southold
skip the playoffs and let Mt Sinai move on to play Nassau winner
They might as well skip the Long Island championship and just go to states. They have 1 more year to dominate in the C division then they fall off a cliff .
It was a nice ride to the cliff for them!
West Islip is hosting Hauppauge today. These two teams seem to be having great seasons, quietly. How good are these teams? Can we please get back to what this topic was supposed to be? Thanks.
West Islip has beaten everyone in D1. They haven't blown away the top teams but have beaten them all. Hauppauge has a couple of losses (to Sachem East and Northport) which makes you question where they really are. But they have some impressive wins (vs CSH, Bayshore and West Bab) which also makes you question where they really are... Should be an exciting game.
Heard from several spectators that this was best lax game they had ever seen. Crazy back and forth affair. Clean and physical (only one or two cards issued). Four period OT affair with WI pulling out the victory after illegal stick took away what would have been game winning goal at end of regulation for Hauppauge. (What a set of Lax Balls on those officials for calling that!!!)
This week's games and Playoffs should be exciting!
LI All-American Showcase: My daughter just got her invitation to play in this showcase. We went online to check it out and it appears that every single coach of the teams playing is a former YJ player. So if every coach is a former YJ player is this showcase a "true showcase" or is it a YJ showcase? What colleges are registered to come?
How important are the final season Newsday stats? Should a player mention them when emailing a college? Thank you
Couldn't hurt..." Hey coach.. Just finished my season, my team was .x wins and x losses. I had x goals and X assists.. We made the playoffs .."
Thank you very much
Also if not included how school is going and anything else important Coaches want to know the whole student/athlete
LI All-American Showcase: My daughter just got her invitation to play in this showcase. We went online to check it out and it appears that every single coach of the teams playing is a former YJ player. So if every coach is a former YJ player is this showcase a "true showcase" or is it a YJ showcase? What colleges are registered to come?
My daughter received a similar invite. I'm pretty sure the rosters have been posted. The event coincides w/ Hofstra Tournament on same weekend. Priced at $150 per girl for one game...kinda steep... Tried to get info about how selection was made and never got any confirmation...
West Islip is hosting Hauppauge today. These two teams seem to be having great seasons, quietly. How good are these teams? Can we please get back to what this topic was supposed to be? Thanks.
West Islip has beaten everyone in D1. They haven't blown away the top teams but have beaten them all. Hauppauge has a couple of losses (to Sachem East and Northport) which makes you question where they really are. But they have some impressive wins (vs CSH, Bayshore and West Bab) which also makes you question where they really are... Should be an exciting game.
Heard from several spectators that this was best lax game they had ever seen. Crazy back and forth affair. Clean and physical (only one or two cards issued). Four period OT affair with WI pulling out the victory after illegal stick took away what would have been game winning goal at end of regulation for Hauppauge. (What a set of Lax Balls on those officials for calling that!!!)
This week's games and Playoffs should be exciting!
Div 1 seedings will be determined after today and Wednesday's games. What are the final regular season predictions??
LI All-American Showcase: My daughter just got her invitation to play in this showcase. We went online to check it out and it appears that every single coach of the teams playing is a former YJ player. So if every coach is a former YJ player is this showcase a "true showcase" or is it a YJ showcase? What colleges are registered to come?
My daughter received a similar invite. I'm pretty sure the rosters have been posted. The event coincides w/ Hofstra Tournament on same weekend. Priced at $150 per girl for one game...kinda steep... Tried to get info about how selection was made and never got any confirmation...
What year are your daughters?
West Islip is hosting Hauppauge today. These two teams seem to be having great seasons, quietly. How good are these teams? Can we please get back to what this topic was supposed to be? Thanks.
West Islip has beaten everyone in D1. They haven't blown away the top teams but have beaten them all. Hauppauge has a couple of losses (to Sachem East and Northport) which makes you question where they really are. But they have some impressive wins (vs CSH, Bayshore and West Bab) which also makes you question where they really are... Should be an exciting game.
Heard from several spectators that this was best lax game they had ever seen. Crazy back and forth affair. Clean and physical (only one or two cards issued). Four period OT affair with WI pulling out the victory after illegal stick took away what would have been game winning goal at end of regulation for Hauppauge. (What a set of Lax Balls on those officials for calling that!!!)
This week's games and Playoffs should be exciting!
Div 1 seedings will be determined after today and Wednesday's games. What are the final regular season predictions??
West Islip
Northport
Hauppauge
Middle Country
West Babylon
Smithtown West
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Bay Shore
Sachem North
Longwood
Patchogue-Medford
[quote=Anonymous]playoff teams are set ... seedings could change.... congrats to thee teams
DIV I (contest details)
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 177.870
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 152.480
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.110
Hauppauge 10-3-0 11-3-0 142.940
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-4-0 135.880
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 133.120
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.950
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 130.940
Bay Shore 7-5-0 7-5-0 127.360
Smithtown East 8-5-0 9-5-0 123.140
Longwood 9-4-0 10-5-0 114.880
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.290
RageSage: One more week of regular season games to be played. This post is premature. Section XI will post pairing Thursday.
LI All-American Showcase: My daughter just got her invitation to play in this showcase. We went online to check it out and it appears that every single coach of the teams playing is a former YJ player. So if every coach is a former YJ player is this showcase a "true showcase" or is it a YJ showcase? What colleges are registered to come?
Can you post the link to the site?
West Islip is hosting Hauppauge today. These two teams seem to be having great seasons, quietly. How good are these teams? Can we please get back to what this topic was supposed to be? Thanks.
West Islip has beaten everyone in D1. They haven't blown away the top teams but have beaten them all. Hauppauge has a couple of losses (to Sachem East and Northport) which makes you question where they really are. But they have some impressive wins (vs CSH, Bayshore and West Bab) which also makes you question where they really are... Should be an exciting game.
Heard from several spectators that this was best lax game they had ever seen. Crazy back and forth affair. Clean and physical (only one or two cards issued). Four period OT affair with WI pulling out the victory after illegal stick took away what would have been game winning goal at end of regulation for Hauppauge. (What a set of Lax Balls on those officials for calling that!!!)
This week's games and Playoffs should be exciting!
Div 1 seedings will be determined after today and Wednesday's games. What are the final regular season predictions??
West Islip
Northport
Hauppauge
Middle Country
West Babylon
Smithtown West
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Bay Shore
Sachem North
Longwood
Patchogue-Medford
Not sure which Smithtown East poster put themselves above Bay Shore. SE has Brentwood no quality Points and then West. BS has HHH then WM. I think the Brentwood game leaves East behind Bay Shore.
A new topic, can someone post the student population gap A, B, C, schools for lacrosse? and should those numbers be changed?
looking at the Suffolk roster this looks to be more of an all star game than a showcase. Why would college coaches come if everyone is committed
LI All-American Showcase: My daughter just got her invitation to play in this showcase. We went online to check it out and it appears that every single coach of the teams playing is a former YJ player. So if every coach is a former YJ player is this showcase a "true showcase" or is it a YJ showcase? What colleges are registered to come?
My daughter received a similar invite. I'm pretty sure the rosters have been posted. The event coincides w/ Hofstra Tournament on same weekend. Priced at $150 per girl for one game...kinda steep... Tried to get info about how selection was made and never got any confirmation...
What year are your daughters?
looking at the Suffolk roster this looks to be more of an all star game than a showcase. Why would college coaches come if everyone is committed
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]LI All-American Showcase: My daughter just got her invitation to play in this showcase. We went online to check it out and it appears that every single coach of the teams playing is a former YJ player. So if every coach is a former YJ player is this showcase a "true showcase" or is it a YJ showcase? What colleges are registered to come?
My daughter received a similar invite. I'm pretty sure the rosters have been posted. The event coincides w/ Hofstra Tournament on same weekend. Priced at $150 per girl for one game...kinda steep... Tried to get info about how selection was made and never got any confirmation...
looking at the Suffolk roster this looks to be more of an all star game than a showcase. Why would college coaches come if everyone is committed
LI All-American Showcase: My daughter just got her invitation to play in this showcase. We went online to check it out and it appears that every single coach of the teams playing is a former YJ player. So if every coach is a former YJ player is this showcase a "true showcase" or is it a YJ showcase? What colleges are registered to come?
My daughter received a similar invite. I'm pretty sure the rosters have been posted. The event coincides w/ Hofstra Tournament on same weekend. Priced at $150 per girl for one game...kinda steep... Tried to get info about how selection was made and never got any confirmation...
What year are your daughters?
And based on the 2015 roster, it's heavily weighted with YJ players. Does anyone know of 2017 and 2017 Nassau invites went out?
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
A new topic, can someone post the student population gap A, B, C, schools for lacrosse? and should those numbers be changed?
I'm not really sure if this what you're looking for, but if you go to SectionXI and look under sports placements you will see the populations of the school districts. Elsewhere on that site are the class breakdowns.
looking at the Suffolk roster this looks to be more of an all star game than a showcase. Why would college coaches come if everyone is committed
LI All-American Showcase: My daughter just got her invitation to play in this showcase. We went online to check it out and it appears that every single coach of the teams playing is a former YJ player. So if every coach is a former YJ player is this showcase a "true showcase" or is it a YJ showcase? What colleges are registered to come?
My daughter received a similar invite. I'm pretty sure the rosters have been posted. The event coincides w/ Hofstra Tournament on same weekend. Priced at $150 per girl for one game...kinda steep... Tried to get info about how selection was made and never got any confirmation...
What year are your daughters?
It looks like a lot of fire-power. ONE defender. Okay, two, but one is listed as injured so presumably won't be taking the field. Which offensive powerhouse is going to defend the goal?
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
Dz MC game vs WI have any impact on seeding? MC seems to be peaking at the right time and they have a solid young team. Could be a sleeper in playoffs.
LI All-American Showcase: My daughter just got her invitation to play in this showcase. We went online to check it out and it appears that every single coach of the teams playing is a former YJ player. So if every coach is a former YJ player is this showcase a "true showcase" or is it a YJ showcase? What colleges are registered to come?
99% of the girls listed on the 2015 roster are already commited.. Why would any college coach even make the effort come to watch?? maybe to verify there offer but that seems like a stretch
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
But when Hauppauge beats Longwood tonight won't Hauppauge move up to #3 in standings?
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
Dz MC game vs WI have any impact on seeding? MC seems to be peaking at the right time and they have a solid young team. Could be a sleeper in playoffs.
West Islip to far ahead, even if they lose to MC they will stay in 1st
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
But when Hauppauge beats Longwood tonight won't Hauppauge move up to #3 in standings?
Hauppauge is not getting enough points to move up for beating Longwood.
West Islip is hosting Hauppauge today. These two teams seem to be having great seasons, quietly. How good are these teams? Can we please get back to what this topic was supposed to be? Thanks.
West Islip has beaten everyone in D1. They haven't blown away the top teams but have beaten them all. Hauppauge has a couple of losses (to Sachem East and Northport) which makes you question where they really are. But they have some impressive wins (vs CSH, Bayshore and West Bab) which also makes you question where they really are... Should be an exciting game.
Heard from several spectators that this was best lax game they had ever seen. Crazy back and forth affair. Clean and physical (only one or two cards issued). Four period OT affair with WI pulling out the victory after illegal stick took away what would have been game winning goal at end of regulation for Hauppauge. (What a set of Lax Balls on those officials for calling that!!!)
This week's games and Playoffs should be exciting!
Div 1 seedings will be determined after today and Wednesday's games. What are the final regular season predictions??
West Islip
Northport
Hauppauge
Middle Country
West Babylon
Smithtown West
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Bay Shore
Sachem North
Longwood
Patchogue-Medford
Not sure which Smithtown East poster put themselves above Bay Shore. SE has Brentwood no quality Points and then West. BS has HHH then WM. I think the Brentwood game leaves East behind Bay Shore.
smithtown east not geting any points if they beat brentwood and games against smith west is non league so they wont get amy for that game either
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
But when Hauppauge beats Longwood tonight won't Hauppauge move up to #3 in standings?
Hauppauge is not getting enough points to move up for beating Longwood.
I think they might it's not like Longwood in last place. Hauppauge #3
D1 big games weds. last games of season
Bayshore over Ward Melville by 5. Bayshore moves from 9 seed to 7 seed.
West Islip over Mid Country by 5. WI and Mc stay where they are.
West Babylon over East Islip by 5. WB stays at 6 seed. EI OUT.
Northport over Sachem East by 5. Northport stays 2 seed and Sachem East drops to 9 seed.
I'll spell it out for you;;;;
#1 West Islip bye
#2 Northport bye
#3 Mid Country bye
#4 Haupauge bye
#5 Smith West vs # 12 seed
#6 West Bab vs # 11 seed
#7 Bayshore vs # 10 seed
#8 Ward Melv vs # 9 seed
#9 Sach East
#10 Smith East
#11 Sach North
#12 Longwood
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
But when Hauppauge beats Longwood tonight won't Hauppauge move up to #3 in standings?
Hauppauge is not getting enough points to move up for beating Longwood.
I think they might it's not like Longwood in last place. Hauppauge #3
#4 beats # 11 , # 4 not moving up much.
Top four teams are teams to beat, bottom 8 need to go through them in 2nd round.
WI versus MC this week, will tell a lot.
http://www.laxpower.com/update14/bingrl/rating63.php - different view of top 12.
Should be fun...
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
But when Hauppauge beats Longwood tonight won't Hauppauge move up to #3 in standings?
Hauppauge is not getting enough points to move up for beating Longwood.
I think they might it's not like Longwood in last place. Hauppauge #3
#4 beats # 11 , # 4 not moving up much.
Last Friday, MC (#4 at the time) beat North Babylon... They moved ahead of Hauppauge as a result... Hauppauge will get more points for beating Longwood than MC did for beating NBab...
looking at the Suffolk roster this looks to be more of an all star game than a showcase. Why would college coaches come if everyone is committed
LI All-American Showcase: My daughter just got her invitation to play in this showcase. We went online to check it out and it appears that every single coach of the teams playing is a former YJ player. So if every coach is a former YJ player is this showcase a "true showcase" or is it a YJ showcase? What colleges are registered to come?
My daughter received a similar invite. I'm pretty sure the rosters have been posted. The event coincides w/ Hofstra Tournament on same weekend. Priced at $150 per girl for one game...kinda steep... Tried to get info about how selection was made and never got any confirmation...
What year are your daughters?
It looks like a lot of fire-power. ONE defender. Okay, two, but one is listed as injured so presumably won't be taking the field. Which offensive powerhouse is going to defend the goal?
Last girls lax game I watched, Middies played defense about half the game... The team should be able to muddle through...
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
But when Hauppauge beats Longwood tonight won't Hauppauge move up to #3 in standings?
Hauppauge is not getting enough points to move up for beating Longwood.
I think they might it's not like Longwood in last place. Hauppauge #3
#4 beats # 11 , # 4 not moving up much.
Last Friday, MC (#4 at the time) beat North Babylon... They moved ahead of Hauppauge as a result... Hauppauge will get more points for beating Longwood than MC did for beating NBab...
North Bab was 2-10 at time of game last week and MC got 3+ points for that win...
Four period OT affair with WI pulling out the victory after illegal stick took away what would have been game winning goal at end of regulation for Hauppauge. (What a set of Lax Balls on those officials for calling that!!!)
Hey if the coach asks for a stick check, and the stick is illegal, what is the ref to do. He has to call off the goal.
Four period OT affair with WI pulling out the victory after illegal stick took away what would have been game winning goal at end of regulation for Hauppauge. (What a set of Lax Balls on those officials for calling that!!!)
Hey if the coach asks for a stick check, and the stick is illegal, what is the ref to do. He has to call off the goal.
Bottom line is the stick was illegal....could have been for most of the game.
There are thirteen teams in the playoffs for Division 1. Go onto Section XI and look at the brackets. First three teams have a bye.
There are thirteen teams in the playoffs for Division 1. Go onto Section XI and look at the brackets. First three teams have a bye.
NOT... I called Section XI and they told me 12 teams, 4 get bye.
Believe it or not smith east vs smith west in a non league game. doesnt count towards points.
West Islip
Northport
Middle Country
Hauppauge
Smithtown West
West Babylon
Bay Shore
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Sachem N beats North Bab and Longwood loses to Haypauge, so they will flip spots sachem north gets #11 and Longwood gets #12..
Bayshore beats Ward Melville and moves up 2 spots because Sachem East also loses to Northport . so Bayshore # 7, Ward Melville #8 and Sachem East #9 ... Everybody else stands.
But when Hauppauge beats Longwood tonight won't Hauppauge move up to #3 in standings?
Hauppauge is not getting enough points to move up for beating Longwood.
I think they might it's not like Longwood in last place. Hauppauge #3
#4 beats # 11 , # 4 not moving up much.
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 178.620
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 153.230
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.440
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.370
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-5-0 136.140
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 134.000
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 131.690
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 131.210
Bay Shore 8-5-0 8-5-0 130.160
Smithtown East 8-5-0 10-5-0 123.720
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.320
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 112.960
Patchogue-Medford 8-5-0 9-5-0 108.170
Section update D1 as of 9:23
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 178.620
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 153.230
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.440
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.370
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-5-0 136.140
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 134.000
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 131.690
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 131.210
Bay Shore 8-5-0 8-5-0 130.160
Smithtown East 8-5-0 10-5-0 123.720
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.320
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 112.960
Hauppauge jumps ahead of Mid Country, Sachem E passes Ward Melville, Sachem N passes Longwood... could change again tomorrow with Bayshore beating Ward Melville and Northport beating Sachem E
How would that work? There are ten spots in round 1. Once those games are played, if you are correct, then that would make nine teams for the second round. Who would the 9th team play?
Doesn't add up.
Maybe top twelve and three get a bye..
How would that work? There are ten spots in round 1. Once those games are played, if you are correct, then that would make nine teams for the second round. Who would the 9th team play?
Doesn't add up.
Maybe top twelve and three get a bye..
I'll type slowly for you. Go here -
www.sectionxi.org - and click on "brackets" at the top, then select Girls Lacrosse from the drop down menu. Division I shows how it will work if there are 13 playoff teams. If there are only 12 teams, as some posters have stated, there is no A13 team and A4 slides forward to the next round (getting the 4th bye). For those who still don't understand, wait a couple more days and it will all be set.
How would that work? There are ten spots in round 1. Once those games are played, if you are correct, then that would make nine teams for the second round. Who would the 9th team play?
Doesn't add up.
Maybe top twelve and three get a bye..
I'll type slowly for you. Go here -
www.sectionxi.org - and click on "brackets" at the top, then select Girls Lacrosse from the drop down menu. Division I shows how it will work if there are 13 playoff teams. If there are only 12 teams, as some posters have stated, there is no A13 team and A4 slides forward to the next round (getting the 4th bye). For those who still don't understand, wait a couple more days and it will all be set.
Enjoyed your post!
With all the talk of how many teams make the bracket I'm surprised there has been no contact by Back of the Cage to clarify. The D1 coaches I spoke with all think its 13 yet some, who claim to have contacted Section XI, say it's 12. Yet the Section XI website has a 13 team bracket.
I guess we wait until later in the week when the bracket is posted. But why the mystery?
Four period OT affair with WI pulling out the victory after illegal stick took away what would have been game winning goal at end of regulation for Hauppauge. (What a set of Lax Balls on those officials for calling that!!!)
Hey if the coach asks for a stick check, and the stick is illegal, what is the ref to do. He has to call off the goal.
Bottom line is the stick was illegal....could have been for most of the game.
Anyone remember the Syracuse/Florida semi-final game at SUNY Stony Brook a couple of years back? Stick check cost Florida the game--in OT.
How would that work? There are ten spots in round 1. Once those games are played, if you are correct, then that would make nine teams for the second round. Who would the 9th team play?
Doesn't add up.
Maybe top twelve and three get a bye..
I'll type slowly for you. Go here -
www.sectionxi.org - and click on "brackets" at the top, then select Girls Lacrosse from the drop down menu. Division I shows how it will work if there are 13 playoff teams. If there are only 12 teams, as some posters have stated, there is no A13 team and A4 slides forward to the next round (getting the 4th bye). For those who still don't understand, wait a couple more days and it will all be set.
It really won't affect anything once the seeding is set except that the #13 team doesn't make the playoffs. It just takes them out of the equation. It saves the #4 seed from having to play/beat the #13 seed. The #4 will play the winner of the #5 v #12 game on Monday.
hOW MANY TEAMS MADE PLAYOFFS LAST YEAR ? 12
How many teams made playoffs in 2012? 12
how many teams made playoffs in 2011? 12
How many teams made playofss in 2010? 12
How many teams make playoffs this year? 13 no you idiot 12.
The problem/issue was the way the referee checked the players stick. A previous poster stated that ANY girls stick would have been illegal the way this referee checked it. I was not an immediate decision by this referee. He handled the stick and the ball for quite awhile before making his decision to take away a goal.
as of today
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 178.620 bye
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 153.230 bye
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.440 bye
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.370 bye
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-5-0 136.140
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 134.000
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 131.690
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 131.210
Bay Shore 8-5-0 8-5-0 130.160
Smithtown East 8-5-0 10-5-0 123.720
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.320
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 112.960
Longwood at smith west winner at Mid Country
sachem north at West Bab winner at Hauppauge
smith east at sachem east winner at Northport
bayshore at Ward melville winner at West Islip
looking at the Suffolk roster this looks to be more of an all star game than a showcase. Why would college coaches come if everyone is committed
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]LI All-American Showcase: My daughter just got her invitation to play in this showcase. We went online to check it out and it appears that every single coach of the teams playing is a former YJ player. So if every coach is a former YJ player is this showcase a "true showcase" or is it a YJ showcase? What colleges are registered to come?
My daughter received a similar invite. I'm pretty sure the rosters have been posted. The event coincides w/ Hofstra Tournament on same weekend. Priced at $150 per girl for one game...kinda steep... Tried to get info about how selection was made and never got any confirmation...
I don't think 2017 went out yet
as of today
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 178.620 bye
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 153.230 bye
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.440 bye
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.370 bye
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-5-0 136.140
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 134.000
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 131.690
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 131.210
Bay Shore 8-5-0 8-5-0 130.160
Smithtown East 8-5-0 10-5-0 123.720
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.320
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 112.960
Longwood at smith west winner at Mid Country
sachem north at West Bab winner at Hauppauge
smith east at sachem east winner at Northport
bayshore at Ward melville winner at West Islip
West bab going to move into # 5 spot after they take care of east islip. Can't make predictions until all games are played tomorrow!
as of today
West Islip 13-0-0 15-0-0 178.620 bye
Northport 10-3-0 10-5-0 153.230 bye
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.440 bye
Middle Country 10-3-0 11-4-0 145.370 bye
Smithtown West 9-4-0 10-5-0 136.140
West Babylon 8-5-0 10-5-0 134.000
Sachem East 8-5-0 9-5-0 131.690
Ward Melville 8-5-0 9-5-0 131.210
Bay Shore 8-5-0 8-5-0 130.160
Smithtown East 8-5-0 10-5-0 123.720
Sachem North 8-5-0 8-7-0 114.320
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 112.960
Longwood at smith west winner at Mid Country
sachem north at West Bab winner at Hauppauge
smith east at sachem east winner at Northport
bayshore at Ward melville winner at West Islip
West bab going to move into # 5 spot after they take care of east islip. Can't make predictions until all games are played tomorrow!
Ward Melville vs Bayshore game will affect standings as well.
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
west bab at east islip
bayshore ward melville
Northport Sachem East all affect seedings.
RP beat Sayville tonite-
does that give them enough to get into playoffs??
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
RP beat Sayville tonite-
does that give them enough to get into playoffs??
Not only does it keep them in, it bumps them up to 6th at least. Which actually could be a curse because Huntington will overtake 2nd with their win at Sayville and could line up a Sayville Rocky Point rematch
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
both teams played GREAT but if either coach thinks they can win a state championship without substituting at the midfield they are crazy!!! The midfield from both ends were barely functioning by game end!!! Manhasset subs every few minutes at the midfield position fresh legs means more stamina
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
both teams played GREAT but if either coach thinks they can win a state championship without substituting at the midfield they are crazy!!! The midfield from both ends were barely functioning by game end!!! Manhasset subs every few minutes at the midfield position fresh legs means more stamina
I have noticed that many LI high school teams do not sub out midfielders. Not sure why--lack of confidence in the talent? This is not just top tier teams but mid-level teams as well. These middies are in for a shock at the next level.
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
both teams played GREAT but if either coach thinks they can win a state championship without substituting at the midfield they are crazy!!! The midfield from both ends were barely functioning by game end!!! Manhasset subs every few minutes at the midfield position fresh legs means more stamina
ESM - Huntington
put these 2 teams together and they wont beat Manhaset.
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
both teams played GREAT but if either coach thinks they can win a state championship without substituting at the midfield they are crazy!!! The midfield from both ends were barely functioning by game end!!! Manhasset subs every few minutes at the midfield position fresh legs means more stamina
And that's why manhasset won last year and will win again this year!
ESM still has one of the best defenses on the island , there not lacking spots , only letting up 11 goals as the most in a game in the last two years ? That's amazing , they need to look past this lost and get stronger from it , I believe they will be a three time county champ
Talk about getting by with there skin of there teeth Rocky Point does not have a chance of competing any further . You cant win games relying on a quarter of a roster . Its called create discipline to create teamwork !! and that's something that should have been established before the season !
RP beat Sayville tonite-
does that give them enough to get into playoffs??
Not only does it keep them in, it bumps them up to 6th at least. Which actually could be a curse because Huntington will overtake 2nd with their win at Sayville and could line up a Sayville Rocky Point rematch
both teams played GREAT but if either coach thinks they can win a state championship without substituting at the midfield they are crazy!!! The midfield from both ends were barely functioning by game end!!! Manhasset subs every few minutes at the midfield position fresh legs means more stamina
ESM - Huntington
put these 2 teams together and they wont beat Manhaset.
Would be great if we actually had subs, town program has driven everyone away. We have a great core but thats not enough we need bodies.
ESM still has one of the best defenses on the island , there not lacking spots , only letting up 11 goals as the most in a game in the last two years ? That's amazing , they need to look past this lost and get stronger from it , I believe they will be a three time county champ
from what I watched yesterday two solid defenders 22 & 33 but they can't be everywhere if someone doesn't step up and help them and their goalie ESM could go out round 1 in my opinion...injuries may be their demise this year.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
Who cares about ESM defense ... Huntington goalie played great. I dont know about Huntingtons degense but there goalie was outstanding. where is she going to college?
Question...I see that Mt Sinai has 17 wins.. I thought the season was capped at 16 games including non league, out of conference, MD teams etc..
(this is by no means a knock against them, Congrats on another undefeated season)
If I remember correctly our school ( to remain nameless cause were pretty bad) actually got in to the playoffs a few years back because the team in front of them played too many games??
Interesting because ESM and Sacred Heart also have 17 games. Does anyone know?
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
Who cares about ESM defense ... Huntington goalie played great. I dont know about Huntingtons degense but there goalie was outstanding. where is she going to college?
relax goalie dad
both teams played GREAT but if either coach thinks they can win a state championship without substituting at the midfield they are crazy!!! The midfield from both ends were barely functioning by game end!!! Manhasset subs every few minutes at the midfield position fresh legs means more stamina
ESM - Huntington
put these 2 teams together and they wont beat Manhaset.
Would be great if we actually had subs, town program has driven everyone away. We have a great core but thats not enough we need bodies.
most teams have 10-12 girls on sidelines this is what you call a sub!!
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
if your trying to get some press for your daughter "the goalie" its not going to work she doesn't compare to Mt. Sinai or ESM or even Sayville goalie for that matter.
Big day today for seedings in D1.
west bab beats east islip, wb moves up to #4, ei out
bayshore beats ward melville, bs moves up to #7, wm down to #9
Northport beats Sachem East, northport stays #2, se down to #8
West islip beats Mid country, wi stays #1, Mc stays #4.
This is what it comes down to::: We will see how good i am?
West Islip bye
Northport bye
Hauppauge bye
Middle Country bye
West Babylon
Smithtown West
Bayshore
Sachem East
Ward Melville
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
ESM 77 goals scored on them for season Huntington 111 REALLY PAL whose the better goalie!!!!
Question...I see that Mt Sinai has 17 wins.. I thought the season was capped at 16 games including non league, out of conference, MD teams etc..
(this is by no means a knock against them, Congrats on another undefeated season)
If I remember correctly our school ( to remain nameless cause were pretty bad) actually got in to the playoffs a few years back because the team in front of them played too many games??
genius at SAYVILLE
Interesting because ESM and Sacred Heart also have 17 games. Does anyone know?
Mt Sinai has 17 total ESM 15 Huntington 16 Sayville 15 each team played something different why is this
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
Who cares about ESM defense ... Huntington goalie played great. I dont know about Huntingtons degense but there goalie was outstanding. where is she going to college?
relax goalie dad
Huntington goalie is reason Huntington won that game. and i'm not her dad. i'm uncle Bob. lol
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
better defense maybee, goalie no way.
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
ESM 77 goals scored on them for season Huntington 111 REALLY PAL whose the better goalie!!!!
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
ESM really? excuses already. playoffs didn't start yet. You get the "COME ON MAN" award for today.
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
If you switch goalies, ESM wins that game.
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
if your trying to get some press for your daughter "the goalie" its not going to work she doesn't compare to Mt. Sinai or ESM or even Sayville goalie for that matter.
[quote=Anonymous]Big day today for seedings in D1.
west bab beats east islip, wb moves up to #4, ei out
bayshore beats ward melville, bs moves up to #7, wm down to #9
Northport beats Sachem East, northport stays #2, se down to #8
West islip beats Mid country, wi stays #1, Mc stays #4.
This is what it comes down to::: We will see how good i am?
West Islip bye
Northport bye
Hauppauge bye
Middle Country bye
West Babylon
Smithtown West
Bayshore
Sachem East
Ward Melville
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
[/quote
Can't have 2 teams at #4??
[quote=Anonymous]Big day today for seedings in D1.
west bab beats east islip, wb moves up to #4, ei out
bayshore beats ward melville, bs moves up to #7, wm down to #9
Northport beats Sachem East, northport stays #2, se down to #8
West islip beats Mid country, wi stays #1, Mc stays #4.
This is what it comes down to::: We will see how good i am?
West Islip bye
Northport bye
Hauppauge bye
Middle Country bye
West Babylon
Smithtown West
Bayshore
Sachem East
Ward Melville
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
[/quote
Can't have 2 teams at #4??
Really genius. Count down, if MC is #4 then West Bab will be #5. Who died and made you Editor in Chief even though you can't count to 5. To the original poster, thanks for your input.
Question...I see that Mt Sinai has 17 wins.. I thought the season was capped at 16 games including non league, out of conference, MD teams etc..
(this is by no means a knock against them, Congrats on another undefeated season)
If I remember correctly our school ( to remain nameless cause were pretty bad) actually got in to the playoffs a few years back because the team in front of them played too many games??
Newsday has the New Canaan game listed twice. They only have 16 games.
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
If you switch goalies, ESM wins that game.
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
if your trying to get some press for your daughter "the goalie" its not going to work she doesn't compare to Mt. Sinai or ESM or even Sayville goalie for that matter.
Huntington goalie is incredible. She is verbally committed to Stonybrook according to YJ web site.
[quote=Anonymous]Big day today for seedings in D1.
west bab beats east islip, wb moves up to #4, ei out
bayshore beats ward melville, bs moves up to #7, wm down to #9
Northport beats Sachem East, northport stays #2, se down to #8
West islip beats Mid country, wi stays #1, Mc stays #4.
This is what it comes down to::: We will see how good i am?
West Islip bye
Northport bye
Hauppauge bye
Middle Country bye
West Babylon
Smithtown West
Bayshore
Sachem East
Ward Melville
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
[/quote
Can't have 2 teams at #4??
Really genius. Count down, if MC is #4 then West Bab will be #5. Who died and made you Editor in Chief even though you can't count to 5. To the original poster, thanks for your input.
Your welcome ... to the genius who says you cant have 2 at #4... """Come On Man""" where have you been?
[quote=Anonymous]Big day today for seedings in D1.
west bab beats east islip, wb moves up to #4, ei out
bayshore beats ward melville, bs moves up to #7, wm down to #9
Northport beats Sachem East, northport stays #2, se down to #8
West islip beats Mid country, wi stays #1, Mc stays #4.
This is what it comes down to::: We will see how good i am?
West Islip bye
Northport bye
Hauppauge bye
Middle Country bye
West Babylon
Smithtown West
Bayshore
Sachem East
Ward Melville
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
[/quote
Can't have 2 teams at #4??
Really genius. Count down, if MC is #4 then West Bab will be #5. Who died and made you Editor in Chief even though you can't count to 5. To the original poster, thanks for your input.
Calm down , the poster was just pointing out that it appears you predicted 2 teams to get the 4 seed. Your predictions for the most part suck so don't get all conceited.
Question...I see that Mt Sinai has 17 wins.. I thought the season was capped at 16 games including non league, out of conference, MD teams etc..
(this is by no means a knock against them, Congrats on another undefeated season)
If I remember correctly our school ( to remain nameless cause were pretty bad) actually got in to the playoffs a few years back because the team in front of them played too many games??
Newsday has the New Canaan game listed twice. They only have 16 games.
Thank You for clearing that up.. ( Not from Sayville, But we did lose to them this year)
as the section xi website both boys and girls have 13 teams making it. top 3 teams get a bye.
Section xi does not have the Class B Brackets up yet but they did update the standings and points so based on that here are the playoff matchups
ESM 1 seed and will play the winner of Islip (4) vs Westhampton (5)
Huntington (2) vs Rocky Point (7)
Sayville (3) vs Miller Place (6)
In the regular season, Huntington beat Rocky point by 3 and
Sayville beat Miller Place by 1
Islip and Westhampton did not play
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
both teams played GREAT but if either coach thinks they can win a state championship without substituting at the midfield they are crazy!!! The midfield from both ends were barely functioning by game end!!! Manhasset subs every few minutes at the midfield position fresh legs means more stamina
I have noticed that many LI high school teams do not sub out midfielders. Not sure why--lack of confidence in the talent? This is not just top tier teams but mid-level teams as well. These middies are in for a shock at the next level.
No shock at all, all of the top D1 schools play full time mids.
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
both teams played GREAT but if either coach thinks they can win a state championship without substituting at the midfield they are crazy!!! The midfield from both ends were barely functioning by game end!!! Manhasset subs every few minutes at the midfield position fresh legs means more stamina
I have noticed that many LI high school teams do not sub out midfielders. Not sure why--lack of confidence in the talent? This is not just top tier teams but mid-level teams as well. These middies are in for a shock at the next level.
No shock at all, all of the top D1 schools play full time mids.
Not exactly true a lot of top teams run 4 middies giving some a break once in a while. at the high school level most teams are not very deep and their middies are their better players, more often than not a tired top line midfield is better than their fresh back ups.
How can Mt Sinai be 17-0 and still playing?
See below article from 2011.
Girls lacrosse coaches Tim Harrison of Babylon and Gary Jensen of Sayville have been suspended by Section 11 for the remainder of the season for scheduling too many games this season, Newsday reported. They're prohibited from all coaching activities and must also not attend games as spectators.
The violation would normally strip the teams of eligibility for the sectional playoffs next month, but the appeals committee ruled they will be able to participate if they qualify, Section 11 Executive Director Ed Cinelli told the paper.
Section 11 dropped the maximum number of regular-season games per team from 17 to 16 beginning last season. Both schools have already played three non-leaguers this spring despite the fact they have 14 league contests scheduled.
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
ESM 77 goals scored on them for season Huntington 111 REALLY PAL whose the better goalie!!!!
Easy Dad!
as the section xi website both boys and girls have 13 teams making it. top 3 teams get a bye.
Thank you for your contribution. That horse is already dead.
How can Mt Sinai be 17-0 and still playing?
See below article from 2011.
Girls lacrosse coaches Tim Harrison of Babylon and Gary Jensen of Sayville have been suspended by Section 11 for the remainder of the season for scheduling too many games this season, Newsday reported. They're prohibited from all coaching activities and must also not attend games as spectators.
The violation would normally strip the teams of eligibility for the sectional playoffs next month, but the appeals committee ruled they will be able to participate if they qualify, Section 11 Executive Director Ed Cinelli told the paper.
Section 11 dropped the maximum number of regular-season games per team from 17 to 16 beginning last season. Both schools have already played three non-leaguers this spring despite the fact they have 14 league contests scheduled.
Mt. Sinai is 16-0 and have completed their regular season. Just check Section XI.
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
Well its simple , Huntington goalie is better.
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
both teams played GREAT but if either coach thinks they can win a state championship without substituting at the midfield they are crazy!!! The midfield from both ends were barely functioning by game end!!! Manhasset subs every few minutes at the midfield position fresh legs means more stamina
I have noticed that many LI high school teams do not sub out midfielders. Not sure why--lack of confidence in the talent? This is not just top tier teams but mid-level teams as well. These middies are in for a shock at the next level.
No shock at all, all of the top D1 schools play full time mids.
Not exactly true a lot of top teams run 4 middies giving some a break once in a while. at the high school level most teams are not very deep and their middies are their better players, more often than not a tired top line midfield is better than their fresh back ups.
Our middies play the whole game, so they're jogging, leaning on sticks and being outrun for the last 8-10 mins. There might be a small drop off in skill when going to a few of the backups, but not nearly that drastic, that it pays to have the starters lumbering around. Glad my daughter plays attack because there are good middies buried on that bench.
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
Well its simple , Huntington goalie is better.
First off I have no family member or friend in this discussion(LOL) but you cannot take 1 game and the amount of saves in judging the better goalie. How about quality of shots taken, distance, accuracy, location of shot. Clearing passes, how are they. I have never seen either young lady play however both are going to play in the future at quality schools. Anyone willing to stand in front of the shot deserves praise not silly statements from parents who have no idea.Must of been a great game to see if there is a rematch I might have to try and make it. A GOALIE PARENT
Not from either school but this is not that simple.
They played against many different teams. and you cannot say in a particular game one was better because on team's offense may be markedly better than the others. Or one team's defense could be significantly weaker.
Although I am surprised ESM is ranked higher. they lost to Huntington and it seems as if Hunington in my opinion played a tougher schedule. But the power rankings say otherwise. But after all it is Div II.
Just say they are both good goalie and end it at that
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
Well its simple , Huntington goalie is better.
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
Well its simple , Huntington goalie is better.
Move on to something else please!! No one cares. When Huntingtons goalie has the accolades that the ESM goalie has we will entertain you!!
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
ESM 77 goals scored on them for season Huntington 111 REALLY PAL whose the better goalie!!!!
Easy Dad!
# of saves means nothing out of context. How many shots did she face to get 111 saves? What is the save percentage? Best indicators for any and all lacrosse players is the old " eye test" what do they look like playing?
Section xi does not have the Class B Brackets up yet but they did update the standings and points so based on that here are the playoff matchups
ESM 1 seed and will play the winner of Islip (4) vs Westhampton (5)
Huntington (2) vs Rocky Point (7)
Sayville (3) vs Miller Place (6)
In the regular season, Huntington beat Rocky point by 3 and
Sayville beat Miller Place by 1
Islip and Westhampton did not play
Prediction:
Islip will beat Westhampton
Rocky Point over Huntington
Miller Place over Sayville
How does this article from 2011 have any bearing on the 2014 season? just wondering
How does this article from 2011 have any bearing on the 2014 season? just wondering
Really? Ok I'll explain it to you. If the rule states only 16 games max can be played and Mt Sinai has played 17 why aren't they allowed to participate in playoffs? Why are the coaches not suspended as happened in 2011? Read the article and see how it clearly relates.
Section xi does not have the Class B Brackets up yet but they did update the standings and points so based on that here are the playoff matchups
ESM 1 seed and will play the winner of Islip (4) vs Westhampton (5)
Huntington (2) vs Rocky Point (7)
Sayville (3) vs Miller Place (6)
In the regular season, Huntington beat Rocky point by 3 and
Sayville beat Miller Place by 1
Islip and Westhampton did not play
Prediction:
Islip will beat Westhampton
Rocky Point over Huntington
Miller Place over Sayville
Agree with Islip and Miller Place in close games; Huntington will beat Rocky Point by 6
Big day today for seedings in D1.
west bab beats east islip, wb moves up to #4, ei out
bayshore beats ward melville, bs moves up to #7, wm down to #9
Northport beats Sachem East, northport stays #2, se down to #8
West islip beats Mid country, wi stays #1, Mc stays #4.
This is what it comes down to::: We will see how good i am?
West Islip bye
Northport bye
Hauppauge bye
Middle Country bye
West Babylon
Smithtown West
Bayshore
Sachem East
Ward Melville
Smithtown East
Sachem North
Longwood
EI beat WB 13-11
Where can I find information on a high school girls summer league? Prefer Nassau please, thank you
How does this article from 2011 have any bearing on the 2014 season? just wondering
Really? Ok I'll explain it to you. If the rule states only 16 games max can be played and Mt Sinai has played 17 why aren't they allowed to participate in playoffs? Why are the coaches not suspended as happened in 2011? Read the article and see how it clearly relates.
Lighten up Francis!! Mt. Sinai only played 16 games. as an earlier post indicates. Newsday has the New Canaan game listed twice!
How does this article from 2011 have any bearing on the 2014 season? just wondering
Really? Ok I'll explain it to you. If the rule states only 16 games max can be played and Mt Sinai has played 17 why aren't they allowed to participate in playoffs? Why are the coaches not suspended as happened in 2011? Read the article and see how it clearly relates.
It's a typo on Newsday.com, they have a game listed twice, MT Sinai has only played (and won) 16 games
as the section xi website both boys and girls have 13 teams making it. top 3 teams get a bye.
Thank you for your contribution. That horse is already dead.
Boys bracket up with 13 teams in the bracket. No girls bracket yet but the empty bracket is now 12 teams.
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
ESM 77 goals scored on them for season Huntington 111 REALLY PAL whose the better goalie!!!!
Not making a statement about the talent of either goalie. The original post noted Huntington goalie had "like 20 saves or something". Just pointing out the actual save count.
Better teams in these games are Sayville, WHB and Huntington. Agree 2 of 3 games will be close. Safest bet is Huntington.
Your pretty good. All predictions came true except Sachem East had both field hockey sisters healthy and they knocked off Northport 11-9. Former Sachem East goalie in the net for Northport made zero saves.
Huntington beats ESM today in OT. Huntington goalie outstanding like 20 saves or something. What a performance, best goalie I ever seen.
I would not say best goalie but she played good. ESM injuries really affecting their defense. Definitely weak spots on D now but their goalie is great!! I still see an ESM vs Huntington County Game let's hope ESM can put four solid defenders on field instead of 2 otherwise Huntington may take it again!!!
Huntington--17 saves ESM--13 saves Per MSG varsity.
ESM 77 goals scored on them for season Huntington 111 REALLY PAL whose the better goalie!!!!
Not making a statement about the talent of either goalie. The original post noted Huntington goalie had "like 20 saves or something". Just pointing out the actual save count.
WAY TO GO GOALIE DAD
as the section xi website both boys and girls have 13 teams making it. top 3 teams get a bye.
Thank you for your contribution. That horse is already dead.
Boys bracket up with 13 teams in the bracket. No girls bracket yet but the empty bracket is now 12 teams.
Dah 12 teams get in, top 4 get bye. """come on man"""
What a mess in D1
Sach E beats Northport upset
EI beats WB upset
WI beats MC badly
W Islip bye
Hauppauge bye
Northport bye
Mid C bye
Smith W
Sach E
Bayshore
W Bab
W Melv
Smith E
Sach N
Longwood
Sach E, Bayshore, w bab, w melv could change....
Your pretty good. All predictions came true except Sachem East had both field hockey sisters healthy and they knocked off Northport 11-9. Former Sachem East goalie in the net for Northport made zero saves.
He was 50% don't forget east islip beat west bab. Nobody saw that coming. So 2/4 in predictions.
ESM still has one of the best defenses on the island , there not lacking spots , only letting up 11 goals as the most in a game in the last two years ? That's amazing , they need to look past this lost and get stronger from it , I believe they will be a three time county champ
That is no longer true....
both teams played GREAT but if either coach thinks they can win a state championship without substituting at the midfield they are crazy!!! The midfield from both ends were barely functioning by game end!!! Manhasset subs every few minutes at the midfield position fresh legs means more stamina
ESM - Huntington
put these 2 teams together and they wont beat Manhaset.
Esm missing their best player...
What a mess in D1
Sach E beats Northport upset
EI beats WB upset
WI beats MC badly
W Islip bye
Hauppauge bye
Northport bye
Mid C bye
Smith W
Sach E
Bayshore
W Bab
W Melv
Smith E
Sach N
Longwood
Sach E, Bayshore, w bab, w melv could change....
Even west islip would tell you that refs did such a [lacrosse]-poor job of officiating that MC got screwed a lot. Probably caused them an extra 3-4 goals. Taking nothing away from WI They are very good but refs definitely factored in an advantage tonight. Non-calls especially. Not an excuse - just be fair refs!
With the playoffs about to start it looks like 14 teams may make section 11 D1 playoffs. A couple of years back they changed the rule that all .500 teams made the playoffs . If that is still the case 14 are in.
How does this article from 2011 have any bearing on the 2014 season? just wondering
Really? Ok I'll explain it to you. If the rule states only 16 games max can be played and Mt Sinai has played 17 why aren't they allowed to participate in playoffs? Why are the coaches not suspended as happened in 2011? Read the article and see how it clearly relates.
Actually it does not relate at all Einstein , Mt. Sinai has played 16 games so they will be playing list season lacrosse , nothing you can do about it .
What a mess in D1
Sach E beats Northport upset
EI beats WB upset
WI beats MC badly
W Islip bye
Hauppauge bye
Northport bye
Mid C bye
Smith W
Sach E
Bayshore
W Bab
W Melv
Smith E
Sach N
Longwood
Sach E, Bayshore, w bab, w melv could change....
When was the last time Northport had this many losses? That's what happens when you try to develop certain superstars rather than developing a team.
With the playoffs about to start it looks like 14 teams may make section 11 D1 playoffs. A couple of years back they changed the rule that all .500 teams made the playoffs . If that is still the case 14 are in.
Not in girls lax, do your research before making a comment like this. You made a stupid comment.
With the playoffs about to start it looks like 14 teams may make section 11 D1 playoffs. A couple of years back they changed the rule that all .500 teams made the playoffs . If that is still the case 14 are in.
Not
Even west islip would tell you that refs did such a [lacrosse]-poor job of officiating that MC got screwed a lot. Probably caused them an extra 3-4 goals. Taking nothing away from WI They are very good but refs definitely factored in an advantage tonight. Non-calls especially. Not an excuse - just be fair refs!
I guess MC lost. lol , In girls lax every losing team blames the refs for the loss. This has been going on for ever in this sport. Man up and except the fact that your team got schooled.
What a mess in D1
Sach E beats Northport upset
EI beats WB upset
WI beats MC badly
W Islip bye
Hauppauge bye
Northport bye
Mid C bye
Smith W
Sach E
Bayshore
W Bab
W Melv
Smith E
Sach N
Longwood
Sach E, Bayshore, w bab, w melv could change....
Even west islip would tell you that refs did such a [lacrosse]-poor job of officiating that MC got screwed a lot. Probably caused them an extra 3-4 goals. Taking nothing away from WI They are very good but refs definitely factored in an advantage tonight. Non-calls especially. Not an excuse - just be fair refs!
Its funny how parents blame refs for losses in girls lax. Thats because 90% of parents do not know the rules for girls lax. If parents read the rule book they might get a better understanding of the game. Parents dont feel bad, Many coaches don't know the rules either. The rules in girls lax are very difficult for you to grasp, its not like any other sport. Its not black and white.
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
With the playoffs about to start it looks like 14 teams may make section 11 D1 playoffs. A couple of years back they changed the rule that all .500 teams made the playoffs . If that is still the case 14 are in.
Not in girls lax, do your research before making a comment like this. You made a stupid comment.
Not a stupid comment just misinformed. When the league was just starting in Suffolk County until about 2000-2002, yes teams that were .500 automatically made it. I played lax from 96-2000 and there were only 16 teams competing in Suffolk County. So the teams that were .500 and above wound up being the top half of the bracket for the most part. Now with this many teams in divisions, not everyone plays each other, so a .500 record would not be fair as strengths of schedule are all different.
What a mess in D1
Sach E beats Northport upset
EI beats WB upset
WI beats MC badly
W Islip bye
Hauppauge bye
Northport bye
Mid C bye
Smith W
Sach E
Bayshore
W Bab
W Melv
Smith E
Sach N
Longwood
Sach E, Bayshore, w bab, w melv could change....
Even west islip would tell you that refs did such a [lacrosse]-poor job of officiating that MC got screwed a lot. Probably caused them an extra 3-4 goals. Taking nothing away from WI They are very good but refs definitely factored in an advantage tonight. Non-calls especially. Not an excuse - just be fair refs!
Its funny how parents blame refs for losses in girls lax. Thats because 90% of parents do not know the rules for girls lax. If parents read the rule book they might get a better understanding of the game. Parents dont feel bad, Many coaches don't know the rules either. The rules in girls lax are very difficult for you to grasp, its not like any other sport. Its not black and white.
Parents blame the refs in ALL sports, with both genders. Sometimes there is some merit there, I have certainly seen games where the reffing seemed biased. Life isn't fair, and I always figured that in the grand scheme of things sometimes you get the calls and sometimes you don't.
Even west islip would tell you that refs did such a [lacrosse]-poor job of officiating that MC got screwed a lot.
West Islip wont say anything. they won, you lost , refs were fine, winners love them, losers cry about them, stop already.
winners dont complain about refs....
With the playoffs about to start it looks like 14 teams may make section 11 D1 playoffs. A couple of years back they changed the rule that all .500 teams made the playoffs . If that is still the case 14 are in.
Not in girls lax, do your research before making a comment like this. You made a stupid comment.
Not a stupid comment just misinformed. When the league was just starting in Suffolk County until about 2000-2002, yes teams that were .500 automatically made it. I played lax from 96-2000 and there were only 16 teams competing in Suffolk County. So the teams that were .500 and above wound up being the top half of the bracket for the most part. Now with this many teams in divisions, not everyone plays each other, so a .500 record would not be fair as strengths of schedule are all different.
and you used a wood stick, and no boundaries. welcome to 2014
With the playoffs about to start it looks like 14 teams may make section 11 D1 playoffs. A couple of years back they changed the rule that all .500 teams made the playoffs . If that is still the case 14 are in.
Not in girls lax, do your research before making a comment like this. You made a stupid comment.
Not a stupid comment just misinformed. When the league was just starting in Suffolk County until about 2000-2002, yes teams that were .500 automatically made it. I played lax from 96-2000 and there were only 16 teams competing in Suffolk County. So the teams that were .500 and above wound up being the top half of the bracket for the most part. Now with this many teams in divisions, not everyone plays each other, so a .500 record would not be fair as strengths of schedule are all different.
and you used a wood stick, and no boundaries. welcome to 2014
Real classy. I said nothing wrong in my comment. Just simply stated thats were the .500 discussion USED TO come into play. No longer the case. Stop trolling and making pointless comments on posts.
You are right, the game of lacrosse has changed a lot since the 90's, however, there were and always will be people like you.
Enjoy your day!
With the playoffs about to start it looks like 14 teams may make section 11 D1 playoffs. A couple of years back they changed the rule that all .500 teams made the playoffs . If that is still the case 14 are in.
Not in girls lax, do your research before making a comment like this. You made a stupid comment.
Not a stupid comment just misinformed. When the league was just starting in Suffolk County until about 2000-2002, yes teams that were .500 automatically made it. I played lax from 96-2000 and there were only 16 teams competing in Suffolk County. So the teams that were .500 and above wound up being the top half of the bracket for the most part. Now with this many teams in divisions, not everyone plays each other, so a .500 record would not be fair as strengths of schedule are all different.
and you used a wood stick, and no boundaries. welcome to 2014
Pocahontas isn't in Kansas anymore, right Toto?
What a mess in D1
Sach E beats Northport upset
EI beats WB upset
WI beats MC badly
W Islip bye
Hauppauge bye
Northport bye
Mid C bye
Smith W
Sach E
Bayshore
W Bab
W Melv
Smith E
Sach N
Longwood
Sach E, Bayshore, w bab, w melv could change....
Even west islip would tell you that refs did such a [lacrosse]-poor job of officiating that MC got screwed a lot. Probably caused them an extra 3-4 goals. Taking nothing away from WI They are very good but refs definitely factored in an advantage tonight. Non-calls especially. Not an excuse - just be fair refs!
What were some of the bad calls/non calls?
What a mess in D1
Sach E beats Northport upset
EI beats WB upset
WI beats MC badly
W Islip bye
Hauppauge bye
Northport bye
Mid C bye
Smith W
Sach E
Bayshore
W Bab
W Melv
Smith E
Sach N
Longwood
Sach E, Bayshore, w bab, w melv could change....
Even west islip would tell you that refs did such a [lacrosse]-poor job of officiating that MC got screwed a lot. Probably caused them an extra 3-4 goals. Taking nothing away from WI They are very good but refs definitely factored in an advantage tonight. Non-calls especially. Not an excuse - just be fair refs!
Its funny how parents blame refs for losses in girls lax. Thats because 90% of parents do not know the rules for girls lax. If parents read the rule book they might get a better understanding of the game. Parents dont feel bad, Many coaches don't know the rules either. The rules in girls lax are very difficult for you to grasp, its not like any other sport. Its not black and white.
Parents blame the refs in ALL sports, with both genders. Sometimes there is some merit there, I have certainly seen games where the reffing seemed biased. Life isn't fair, and I always figured that in the grand scheme of things sometimes you get the calls and sometimes you don't.
Officiating is scrutinized by fans and coaches at all levels, even professional levels. Blaming refs is fundamental to all sports--and what makes sports great. Do you really want to go to the replay on every play?
Someone also mentioned elsewhere in this thread parents do not understand girls lacrosse rules that well. This is very true. Some of the comments I hear on the sidelines are ill informed and funny at times. But again, that is what makes sports great!!
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
I know Bay Shore may have gotten their mojo back; not sure how much of a stretch but would be great to see a little border war for the title. BS vs WI.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
Fortunately for Ward Melville, West Babylon top player is injured. if healthy, the outcome would be substantially different. That being said, WM and Bayshore each should win by at least 10.
Section xi for the next few years... Please try and schedule girls game on one day and the boys on another. Why put them both on the same day?
D1 playoffs
Longwood at Sachem E Sachem E by 10
Sachem N at Bay shore Bayshore by 15
Smith East at Smith West Smith E again by 5
Ward Melville at West Babylon WM by 10
Blow Outs
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
Fortunately for Ward Melville, West Babylon top player is injured. if healthy, the outcome would be substantially different. That being said, WM and Bayshore each should win by at least 10.
I had heard that she was back last week. Is she injured again?
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
Fortunately for Ward Melville, West Babylon top player is injured. if healthy, the outcome would be substantially different. That being said, WM and Bayshore each should win by at least 10.
I had heard that she was back last week. Is she injured again?
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
Fortunately for Ward Melville, West Babylon top player is injured. if healthy, the outcome would be substantially different. That being said, WM and Bayshore each should win by at least 10.
I had heard that she was back last week. Is she injured again?
Playing but at about 25%. Was sad to see, a shell of her usual self. Lucky for WM.
U want a come on man? Mt sinai. Babylon and bayport win 1 game and there in the county finals. Come on man.
U want a come on man? Mt sinai. Babylon and bayport win 1 game and there in the county finals. Come on man.
Come on Man to Smithtown East coach again for letting her superstar stat load against an inferior opponent.
How the heck did NP lose to Sachem East? Screwed up the seeding. CR must of let them win. Great chess player.
Maybe they just aren't that good this year!
How the heck did NP lose to Sachem East? Screwed up the seeding. CR must of let them win. Great chess player.
Chess player? Their next opponent is one of the hottest teams that has gotten overlooked the past 2, 3, 4 years but seems to be there at the end.
How the heck did NP lose to Sachem East? Screwed up the seeding. CR must of let them win. Great chess player.
Hey Bobby Fisher, they get Bayshore next round. Stick to checkers!
Ok, with the seeding now in place, what are the opinions on who will win the Suffolk County titles this year? Also, who could be the surprise picks?
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
never happen. bayshore is healthy. 1st time all year.. bayshore by 12.
D1 West Islip, Bayshore
D2 Huntington, ESM
D3 Mt Sinai
How the heck did NP lose to Sachem East? Screwed up the seeding. CR must of let them win. Great chess player.
Hey Bobby Fisher, they get Bayshore next round. Stick to checkers!
I dont think so. Much more difficult for Northport now.
Ok, with the seeding now in place, what are the opinions on who will win the Suffolk County titles this year? Also, who could be the surprise picks?
West Islip or Bay Shore. No surprises.
Ok, with the seeding now in place, what are the opinions on who will win the Suffolk County titles this year? Also, who could be the surprise picks?
West Islip or Bay Shore
Huntington
Mt Sinai (who will win state title for their class)
U want a come on man? Mt sinai. Babylon and bayport win 1 game and there in the county finals. Come on man.
You have to live with the structure of the classes. Mt Sinai first significant game will be upstate.
Don't count out Rocky Point !
Ok, with the seeding now in place, what are the opinions on who will win the Suffolk County titles this year? Also, who could be the surprise picks?
West Islip or Bay Shore
Huntington
Mt Sinai (who will win state title for their class)
Ok, with the seeding now in place, what are the opinions on who will win the Suffolk County titles this year? Also, who could be the surprise picks?
West Islip or Bay Shore
Huntington
Mt Sinai (who will win state title for their class)
yeah class C NBD no big deal
How the heck did NP lose to Sachem East? Screwed up the seeding. CR must of let them win. Great chess player.
Hey Bobby Fisher, they get Bayshore next round. Stick to checkers!
I dont think so. Much more difficult for Northport now.
I am a Bay Shore (two words) fan. Say what you want about the bracket. Sachem North, NP, Bay Shore, the Smith's, or Hauppauge I think they are all very good teams. Any one of them can come out of that side. They all have a chance.
One girl to watch out for today, Mother Nature, she can be a great equalizer and anything can happen today. Again being a Bay Shore fan after this interesting season, I wish you all the best. You started at #1 time to end at #1.
Nice job by SN and their coach turning the program around this year but be realistic they are not anywhere near the level of the top teams. They did not beat any good teams this year.
Don't count out Rocky Point !
I saw them lose to Islip. maybe it was a bad day.
Ok, with the seeding now in place, what are the opinions on who will win the Suffolk County titles this year? Also, who could be the surprise picks?
West Islip or Bay Shore
Huntington
Mt Sinai (who will win state title for their class)
Nice job by SN and their coach turning the program around this year but be realistic they are not anywhere near the level of the top teams. They did not beat any good teams this year.
'''COME ON MAN'''
SACHEM NORTH
lost to Huntington by 12
lost to Northport by 10
lost to Smithtown West by 10
lost to Sachem East by 9
lost to Harborfields by 12
lost to Middle Country by 12
lost to HHH by 2
beat North Babylon (21st place)
beat Longwood (8th place)
beat Floyd (20th place)
beat Copiague(24th place)
beat Connetquot(11th place)
beat Walt Whit (22nd place)
beat Pat Med (14th place)
beat Riverhead (19th place)
beat Brentwood(23rd place)
Nice job by SN and their coach turning the program around this year but be realistic they are not anywhere near the level of the top teams. They did not beat any good teams this year.
'''COME ON MAN'''
SACHEM NORTH
lost to Huntington by 12
lost to Northport by 10
lost to Smithtown West by 10
lost to Sachem East by 9
lost to Harborfields by 12
lost to Middle Country by 12
lost to HHH by 2
beat North Babylon (21st place)
beat Longwood (8th place)
beat Floyd (20th place)
beat Copiague(24th place)
beat Connetquot(11th place)
beat Walt Whit (22nd place)
beat Pat Med (14th place)
beat Riverhead (19th place)
beat Brentwood(23rd place)
How did they make the playoffs, I thought we used power points. They should have 0 power points, There should be an investigation on this.
Now take East Islip
Lost to BBP by 4 #2 seed
west islip by 4 #1 seed
middle country by 6 #4 seed
ward melville by 1 #9 seed
northport by 1 #3 seed
Hauppauge by 2 #2 seed
sachem east by 1 #5 seed
smith east by 1 #10 seed
bayshore by 10 #6 seed
beat HHH, Massapequa, Floyd, WW, Lindy, commack, WB.
who is the better team? come on man
Now take East Islip
Lost to BBP by 4 #2 seed
west islip by 4 #1 seed
middle country by 6 #4 seed
ward melville by 1 #9 seed
northport by 1 #3 seed
Hauppauge by 2 #2 seed
sachem east by 1 #5 seed
smith east by 1 #10 seed
bayshore by 10 #6 seed
beat HHH, Massapequa, Floyd, WW, Lindy, commack, WB.
who is the better team? come on man
EI lost 8 Conference games! They do not belong in the playoffs. They will get a softer schedule next year. If they Win more than they lose, they will make the playoffs.
Nice job by SN and their coach turning the program around this year but be realistic they are not anywhere near the level of the top teams. They did not beat any good teams this year.
'''COME ON MAN'''
SACHEM NORTH
lost to Huntington by 12
lost to Northport by 10
lost to Smithtown West by 10
lost to Sachem East by 9
lost to Harborfields by 12
lost to Middle Country by 12
lost to HHH by 2
beat North Babylon (21st place)
beat Longwood (8th place)
beat Floyd (20th place)
beat Copiague(24th place)
beat Connetquot(11th place)
beat Walt Whit (22nd place)
beat Pat Med (14th place)
beat Riverhead (19th place)
beat Brentwood(23rd place)
How did they make the playoffs, I thought we used power points. They should have 0 power points, There should be an investigation on this.
Nice job by SN and their coach turning the program around this year but be realistic they are not anywhere near the level of the top teams. They did not beat any good teams this year.
'''COME ON MAN'''
SACHEM NORTH
lost to Huntington by 12
lost to Northport by 10
lost to Smithtown West by 10
lost to Sachem East by 9
lost to Harborfields by 12
lost to Middle Country by 12
lost to HHH by 2
beat North Babylon (21st place)
beat Longwood (8th place)
beat Floyd (20th place)
beat Copiague(24th place)
beat Connetquot(11th place)
beat Walt Whit (22nd place)
beat Pat Med (14th place)
beat Riverhead (19th place)
beat Brentwood(23rd place)
How did they make the playoffs, I thought we used power points. They should have 0 power points, There should be an investigation on this.
Sachem N is a middle of the pack team who beat the teams they were supposed to. Same with Longwood. That's why they are in the playoffs.
Don't count out Rocky Point !
I saw them lose to Islip. maybe it was a bad day.
Ok, with the seeding now in place, what are the opinions on who will win the Suffolk County titles this year? Also, who could be the surprise picks?
West Islip or Bay Shore
Huntington
Mt Sinai (who will win state title for their class)
West Islip
ESM
Mt Sinai
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
Deserves it!? Come on, oh well mute point now, better luck next year!
Nice job by SN and their coach turning the program around this year but be realistic they are not anywhere near the level of the top teams. They did not beat any good teams this year.
'''COME ON MAN'''
SACHEM NORTH
lost to Huntington by 12
lost to Northport by 10
lost to Smithtown West by 10
lost to Sachem East by 9
lost to Harborfields by 12
lost to Middle Country by 12
lost to HHH by 2
beat North Babylon (21st place)
beat Longwood (8th place)
beat Floyd (20th place)
beat Copiague(24th place)
beat Connetquot(11th place)
beat Walt Whit (22nd place)
beat Pat Med (14th place)
beat Riverhead (19th place)
beat Brentwood(23rd place)
Definition of a last team in type team. Walt Whitman was the same last year.
Nice job by SN and their coach turning the program around this year but be realistic they are not anywhere near the level of the top teams. They did not beat any good teams this year.
'''COME ON MAN'''
SACHEM NORTH
lost to Huntington by 12
lost to Northport by 10
lost to Smithtown West by 10
lost to Sachem East by 9
lost to Harborfields by 12
lost to Middle Country by 12
lost to HHH by 2
beat North Babylon (21st place)
beat Longwood (8th place)
beat Floyd (20th place)
beat Copiague(24th place)
beat Connetquot(11th place)
beat Walt Whit (22nd place)
beat Pat Med (14th place)
beat Riverhead (19th place)
beat Brentwood(23rd place)
Definition of a last team in type team. Walt Whitman was the same last year.
Great post, Just be careful what you wish for. Look at where WW ended up this year. Sure each year you can have a talented class look at MC and Haup, but look at WI NP BS WM WB each year they are ranked and given the toughest schedules and they persevere.
good luck to all LI girls, give each other great competition and take States!
First two games are in
Sachem East by 3 over Longwood
Bay Shore by 12 over Sachem North
First two games are in
Sachem East by 3 over Longwood
Bay Shore by 12 over Sachem North
Smithtown east by 2 over west
Smithtown East over Smithtown West by 2
Now the games start.
WB v WI
BS v NP
These should have been the top 4 teams let's hope that injury bug is behind them!
I think the winners of these next games are our suffolk finalists.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
Guess he wasn't kidding you, she must be feeling better, come on man!
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
Nice call with Bay Shore (2 words). Ward Melville, not so much.
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
Deserves it!? Come on, oh well mute point now, better luck next year!
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
Deserves it!? Come on, oh well mute point now, better luck next year!
Did you mean "silent" point, or "moot" point?
How the heck did NP lose to Sachem East? Screwed up the seeding. CR must of let them win. Great chess player.
Rumor has it she was scouting at the Bay Shore game today.
Sachem N is a middle of the pack team who beat the teams they were supposed to. Same with Longwood. That's why they are in the playoffs.
and 2 hrs later they both out. 19 to 7
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Are you kidding me, Ward Melville lit them up just last week, by 14 goals... ""Come On Man"" Ward Melville wins by 10.
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
Never ever ever happen in a million years. Bayshore wins by 12.
Nice call with Bay Shore (2 words). Ward Melville, not so much.
I guess it's fun to handicap HS sports to see how well you can predict the scores but it seems out of place at this level. From a competitive perspective this is a great time of year!
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
Deserves it!? Come on, oh well mute point now, better luck next year!
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
Deserves it!? Come on, oh well mute point now, better luck next year!
Did you mean "silent" point, or "moot" point?
There are some parents that should have a "mute point"!!! Having fun here folks....
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
Deserves it!? Come on, oh well mute point now, better luck next year!
FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
Deserves it!? Come on, oh well mute point now, better luck next year!
Did you mean "silent" point, or "moot" point?
There are some parents that should have a "mute point"!!! Having fun here folks....
Classic!!!
Sachem N is a middle of the pack team who beat the teams they were supposed to. Same with Longwood. That's why they are in the playoffs.
and 2 hrs later they both out. 19 to 7
Sachem N is a middle of the pack team who beat the teams they were supposed to. Same with Longwood. That's why they are in the playoffs.
and 2 hrs later they both out. 19 to 7
9-5 records got them one more game. 6-8 keeps you on the outside looking in. Sorry EI. You are what your record says you are.
How the heck did NP lose to Sachem East? Screwed up the seeding. CR must of let them win. Great chess player.
Rumor has it she was scouting at the Bay Shore game today.
Not gonna help her Monday.
Now the games start.
WB v WI
BS v NP
These should have been the top 4 teams let's hope that injury bug is behind them!
I think the winners of these next games are our suffolk finalists.
Where is the love for Hauppauge??
Any results from the B games yet???
Now the games start.
WB v WI
BS v NP
These should have been the top 4 teams let's hope that injury bug is behind them!
I think the winners of these next games are our suffolk finalists.
Where is the love for Hauppauge??
Nobody wants to play Hauppauge.
Tooker is definitely not hurt...takes a lot to stop that kid!!!
Tooker is definitely not hurt...takes a lot to stop that kid!!!
Tooker is an overratted player
Tooker is definitely not hurt...takes a lot to stop that kid!!!
Tooker is an overratted player
And you're an overratted speller. Jerk!
Any results from the B games yet???
According to Newsday:
HTG over RP 15-14
Sayville over MP 6-5
Westhampton over Islip 18-15
SWR over M/G/S 16-6
Tooker is definitely not hurt...takes a lot to stop that kid!!!
Tooker is an overratted player
And you're an overratted speller. Jerk!
Another classic.
Now the games start.
WB v WI
BS v NP
These should have been the top 4 teams let's hope that injury bug is behind them!
I think the winners of these next games are our suffolk finalists.
Where is the love for Hauppauge??
Nobody wants to play Hauppauge.
Stop.
Huntington win was a miracle! RP goalie was amazing today ! Hunt. Goalie had nothing! ..
Huntington win was a miracle! RP goalie was amazing today ! Hunt. Goalie had nothing! ..
huntington goalie has nothing they get lucky every game. Sorry to hear that RP loss we were praying that RP knocked them and their parents off their pedestal especially the goalie dad who consistently posts about his daughter!!! Congrats on a good season RP good luck to all those who will graduate!!
Now the games start.
WB v WI
BS v NP
These should have been the top 4 teams let's hope that injury bug is behind them!
I think the winners of these next games are our suffolk finalists.
Where is the love for Hauppauge??
Just not seen as a threat although they have had a good year lets see what East has to say. No love for them either.
Any results from the B games yet???
According to Newsday:
HTG over RP 15-14
Sayville over MP 6-5
Westhampton over Islip 18-15
SWR over M/G/S 16-6
Islip another first round loss, haven't won a playoff games in ? ever Ball hog girls got shut down again.
Any results from the B games yet???
According to Newsday:
HTG over RP 15-14
Sayville over MP 6-5
Westhampton over Islip 18-15
SWR over M/G/S 16-6
Hey Islip........ Team work PAYS. not stats
Islip another first round loss, haven't won a playoff games in ? ever Ball hog girls got shut down again.
Huntington win was a miracle! RP goalie was amazing today ! Hunt. Goalie had nothing! ..
huntington goalie has nothing they get lucky every game. Sorry to hear that RP loss we were praying that RP knocked them and their parents off their pedestal especially the goalie dad who consistently posts about his daughter!!! Congrats on a good season RP good luck to all those who will graduate!!
We have a goalie dad like that also at ESM.....
Now the games start.
WB v WI
BS v NP
These should have been the top 4 teams let's hope that injury bug is behind them!
I think the winners of these next games are our suffolk finalists.
Where is the love for Hauppauge??
Nobody wants to play Hauppauge.
WI over WB by 5
BS over Northport by 10
MC over Sachem East by 5
Hauppauge ove Smith East by 6
I had all the winners except for
Wart Melville, they beat West Babylon by 13 goals just last week. Thought they were the team to beat? over confidence by players, coaches and PARENTS....
Any results from the B games yet???
According to Newsday:
HTG over RP 15-14
Sayville over MP 6-5
Westhampton over Islip 18-15
SWR over M/G/S 16-6
Islip another first round loss, haven't won a playoff games in ? ever Ball hog girls got shut down again.
Are you this much of a moron really ? Cannot figure out if you are related to ball hog sisters and trying to bait people into a conversation about them or really just this stupid.
Huntington win was a miracle! RP goalie was amazing today ! Hunt. Goalie had nothing! ..
Thanks for that idiotic post , if Huntington goalie was that bad then the rest of your RP team must be horrible if they lost.
Ward Melville was not the team to beat. They have a few good players-2 for sure-after that there's a big drop off. They had a hard time defending my daughter's team. No surprise that they were knocked off early. I do agree with your predictions for the next round. IMHO, I think the 2 strongest teams with the deepest pool of players are WI and BS and no my daughter does not play on either one.
Now the games start.
WB v WI
BS v NP
These should have been the top 4 teams let's hope that injury bug is behind them!
I think the winners of these next games are our suffolk finalists.
Where is the love for Hauppauge??
Just not seen as a threat although they have had a good year lets see what East has to say. No love for them either.
This is untrue, Hauppaquge going to be tough also should beat smith east easily, then play Bayshore, tough one.
Any results from the B games yet???
According to Newsday:
HTG over RP 15-14
Sayville over MP 6-5
Westhampton over Islip 18-15
SWR over M/G/S 16-6
Islip another first round loss, haven't won a playoff games in ? ever Ball hog girls got shut down again.
Are you this much of a moron really ? Cannot figure out if you are related to ball hog sisters and trying to bait people into a conversation about them or really just this stupid.
How many playoff games have super stars won.... girls lax is a TEAM game
ok here we go .....
WI over WB in a close one
MC over Sach E in a close one
BS over Northport large
Hauppauge over Smith E fairly easy
ESM over WH large
Hunt over Sayville fairly easy
Mt Sinai over SWR larger
Bayport over Babylon fairly easy
islip top scorers in suffolk county again, what does that get you? 1st round playoff loss.
Well at least they made the playoffs this year. lol
You are correct 100% ,,, it is team game.. you can beat all the non playoff teams you want. over and over year after year. but when it comes down to it you cant win a playoff games.
Huntington win was a miracle! RP goalie was amazing today ! Hunt. Goalie had nothing! ..
huntington goalie has nothing they get lucky every game. Sorry to hear that RP loss we were praying that RP knocked them and their parents off their pedestal especially the goalie dad who consistently posts about his daughter!!! Congrats on a good season RP good luck to all those who will graduate!!
We have a goalie dad like that also at ESM.....
funny bc no ESM parent would truly post this..jerk!!
Huntington win was a miracle! RP goalie was amazing today ! Hunt. Goalie had nothing! ..
huntington goalie has nothing they get lucky every game. Sorry to hear that RP loss we were praying that RP knocked them and their parents off their pedestal especially the goalie dad who consistently posts about his daughter!!! Congrats on a good season RP good luck to all those who will graduate!!
We have a goalie dad like that also at ESM.....
funny bc no ESM parent would truly post this..jerk!!
We're not nearly as united as you think!
I saw Hauppauge lose to Northport, by a goal or two. I thought they were pretty good, and probably should've won that game. They needed to do a better job of ball control that day. Looking forward to these playoffs. Good luck to all! Also, please stop with the childish remarks from the parents. Leave the girls alone, and let them enjoy their sport.
has anyone seen that tall 6'2" girl that plays for ESM? think Westhampton can shut her down on tuesday???
has anyone seen that tall 6'2" girl that plays for ESM? think Westhampton can shut her down on tuesday???
not unless they can play lax from atop a stool
has anyone seen that tall 6'2" girl that plays for ESM? think Westhampton can shut her down on tuesday???
not unless they can play lax from atop a stool
She only scored twice against them when they played last.
islip top scorers in suffolk county again, what does that get you? 1st round playoff loss.
Well at least they made the playoffs this year. lol
You are correct 100% ,,, it is team game.. you can beat all the non playoff teams you want. over and over year after year. but when it comes down to it you cant win a playoff games.
Stop crying and going off on your jealous rant, your lucky you have them, otherwise you would have no wins and no playoff games to play.
has anyone seen that tall 6'2" girl that plays for ESM? think Westhampton can shut her down on tuesday???
not unless they can play lax from atop a stool
She only scored twice against them when they played last.
She also hurt her knee in that game. heard shes playing on a torn meniscus
has anyone seen that tall 6'2" girl that plays for ESM? think Westhampton can shut her down on tuesday???
not unless they can play lax from atop a stool
She only scored twice against them when they played last.
She also hurt her knee in that game. heard shes playing on a torn meniscus
Rumor has it she's not going to be the one to focus on Mason and Huff are cleared!!
Yeah but she'll mess up westhampton she's rad!!!!!!!!!
well i heard that shes really pretty and talented oh and shes single so all boys go to the game and watch the tall girl!!!!
this is play offs now whb is unable to stop her they don't have the height or strength. esm is filled with fast strong athletic girls and thats why they'll come out on top
who on ESMs defense is going to step up for the playoff game on tuesday against westhampton? Ever since the sayville game the defense has been off. young guns have to get ready for the varsity level. ESM lost a good defender and they have been letting up A LOT of goals..should be an interesting game on tuesday......
ESM or huntington as 2014 county champs?
i think esm solid defense offense was rocky due to injuries but girls will be cleared
well i heard that shes really pretty and talented oh and shes single so all boys go to the game and watch the tall girl!!!!
she's accepting applications for Prom dates so go to
www.tallpeoplerock.com and oh I betcha she's going to put that ball in the back of the cage more then twice this time!!!
I think esm is going to beat up whb especially since they have a cat on the team and a really big girl named meg
esm has 2 other solid defenders now, the other 2 are okay. they have carried the defense and will continue too and be successful
who on ESMs defense is going to step up for the playoff game on tuesday against westhampton? Ever since the sayville game the defense has been off. young guns have to get ready for the varsity level. ESM lost a good defender and they have been letting up A LOT of goals..should be an interesting game on tuesday......
ESM had three strong defenders until Sayville now they struggle a bit the two girls left of the three are holding their own but ESM needs the other two to step up fast. It was a big hit to their defense to lose a strong player to ACL again but if 22 & 33 take control they should be fine!!
ESM or huntington as 2014 county champs?
i think esm solid defense offense was rocky due to injuries but girls will be cleared
with the rumor of Mason being back as well as Huff it's a three peat for ESM easily
I think esm is going to beat up whb especially since they have a cat on the team and a really big girl named meg
so they have a giraffe, a cat and a big girl named meg sounds like a championship in the making. If they can't beat you on the field I betcha in a wheelchair race they come out in first!!
ESM or huntington as 2014 county champs?
i think esm solid defense offense was rocky due to injuries but girls will be cleared
with the rumor of Mason being back as well as Huff it's a three peat for ESM easily
who updates sectionxi.org. great bracket page, if only it was updated!?!.
esm has 2 other solid defenders now, the other 2 are okay. they have carried the defense and will continue too and be successful
exactly JMU bound and Jax bound are two solid defenders which is enough to hold down the defense as well as the ND bound goalie
Huntington win was a miracle! RP goalie was amazing today ! Hunt. Goalie had nothing! ..
huntington goalie has nothing they get lucky every game. Sorry to hear that RP loss we were praying that RP knocked them and their parents off their pedestal especially the goalie dad who consistently posts about his daughter!!! Congrats on a good season RP good luck to all those who will graduate!!
We have a goalie dad like that also at ESM.....
funny bc no ESM parent would truly post this..jerk!!
We're not nearly as united as you think!
I know we are not, but some people at ESM thinks so. that little circle.. and that goalie dad padding stats. oh well..
who on ESMs defense is going to step up for the playoff game on tuesday against westhampton? Ever since the sayville game the defense has been off. young guns have to get ready for the varsity level. ESM lost a good defender and they have been letting up A LOT of goals..should be an interesting game on tuesday......
defense weak and goalie weak.
ESM or huntington as 2014 county champs?
i think esm solid defense offense was rocky due to injuries but girls will be cleared
Huntington too strong, will be able to crash the net, goalie no good one on one
who on ESMs defense is going to step up for the playoff game on tuesday against westhampton? Ever since the sayville game the defense has been off. young guns have to get ready for the varsity level. ESM lost a good defender and they have been letting up A LOT of goals..should be an interesting game on tuesday......
ESM had three strong defenders until Sayville now they struggle a bit the two girls left of the three are holding their own but ESM needs the other two to step up fast. It was a big hit to their defense to lose a strong player to ACL again but if 22 & 33 take control they should be fine!!
maybee a goalie weakness?????....hello..... goalie dad
ESM or huntington as 2014 county champs?
i think esm solid defense offense was rocky due to injuries but girls will be cleared
with the rumor of Mason being back as well as Huff it's a three peat for ESM easily
who updates sectionxi.org. great bracket page, if only it was updated!?!.
this morning, not updated on weekends, they have wekkends off like you...
Huntington win was a miracle! RP goalie was amazing today ! Hunt. Goalie had nothing! ..
huntington goalie has nothing they get lucky every game. Sorry to hear that RP loss we were praying that RP knocked them and their parents off their pedestal especially the goalie dad who consistently posts about his daughter!!! Congrats on a good season RP good luck to all those who will graduate!!
We have a goalie dad like that also at ESM.....
funny bc no ESM parent would truly post this..jerk!!
We're not nearly as united as you think!
I know we are not, but some people at ESM thinks so. that little circle.. and that goalie dad padding stats. oh well..
you make it so obvious that you are not an ESM parent by your comment about the goalie dad. She has earned everything she has gotten!
who on ESMs defense is going to step up for the playoff game on tuesday against westhampton? Ever since the sayville game the defense has been off. young guns have to get ready for the varsity level. ESM lost a good defender and they have been letting up A LOT of goals..should be an interesting game on tuesday......
defense weak and goalie weak.
that's funny let's see All American D1 commit to JMU, Jacksonville University, Notre Dame and I'm sure they watched her play didn't go by stats like you will say. Yes they have two weak spots on defense but the others will compensate
who on ESMs defense is going to step up for the playoff game on tuesday against westhampton? Ever since the sayville game the defense has been off. young guns have to get ready for the varsity level. ESM lost a good defender and they have been letting up A LOT of goals..should be an interesting game on tuesday......
defense weak and goalie weak.
like the defender claiming she committed to holy cross...what a joke she is a walk on at most if she even makes it. We all know how to use Lax Power stupid parent a U means no one knows why you are even listed oh and if you click on the Holy Cross article your not even listed on that. UVA girl is another one how can you expect to play there you can't even score here. I'll give you JMU girl strong Jacksonville as well. UMASS is the injury but where's the other defender who is a D1 Kennesaw (which I never heard of). 6'2 Mercyhurst needs to learn to take the draw that might helped as well. ESM parents need to get over themselves. Someone needs to put you all in your place you get the awards you get and the press you get bc you all LIE!!!
ESM or huntington as 2014 county champs?
i think esm solid defense offense was rocky due to injuries but girls will be cleared
with the rumor of Mason being back as well as Huff it's a three peat for ESM easily
who updates sectionxi.org. great bracket page, if only it was updated!?!.
this morning, not updated on weekends, they have wekkends off like you...
I don't have many if any weekends (both days) off? I have a day off during the week. But even then, during busy times I am still working. Any time during a tournament season is a sections "busy time" How hard is it to update a few fields anyway?
who on ESMs defense is going to step up for the playoff game on tuesday against westhampton? Ever since the sayville game the defense has been off. young guns have to get ready for the varsity level. ESM lost a good defender and they have been letting up A LOT of goals..should be an interesting game on tuesday......
defense weak and goalie weak.
like the defender claiming she committed to holy cross...what a joke she is a walk on at most if she even makes it. We all know how to use Lax Power stupid parent a U means no one knows why you are even listed oh and if you click on the Holy Cross article your not even listed on that. UVA girl is another one how can you expect to play there you can't even score here. I'll give you JMU girl strong Jacksonville as well. UMASS is the injury but where's the other defender who is a D1 Kennesaw (which I never heard of). 6'2 Mercyhurst needs to learn to take the draw that might helped as well. ESM parents need to get over themselves. Someone needs to put you all in your place you get the awards you get and the press you get bc you all LIE!!!
You're clearly obsessed with the team if you know so much about all of our players. Did you not get enough hugs from mommy and daddy when you were little?
OMG!!!! I'm not even from ESM and you are absolutely out of control! You are totally disrespectful to these parents and YOUNG LADIES. I sincerely pray for your children....they are in for a long road if they have learned by your horrifying examples. Its time you either shut up or stop hiding behind your key board, who are you?? Disgusting individual, get a life!
who on ESMs defense is going to step up for the playoff game on tuesday against westhampton? Ever since the sayville game the defense has been off. young guns have to get ready for the varsity level. ESM lost a good defender and they have been letting up A LOT of goals..should be an interesting game on tuesday......
defense weak and goalie weak.
like the defender claiming she committed to holy cross...what a joke she is a walk on at most if she even makes it. We all know how to use Lax Power stupid parent a U means no one knows why you are even listed oh and if you click on the Holy Cross article your not even listed on that. UVA girl is another one how can you expect to play there you can't even score here. I'll give you JMU girl strong Jacksonville as well. UMASS is the injury but where's the other defender who is a D1 Kennesaw (which I never heard of). 6'2 Mercyhurst needs to learn to take the draw that might helped as well. ESM parents need to get over themselves. Someone needs to put you all in your place you get the awards you get and the press you get bc you all LIE!!!
Just ignore it's clearly a [lacrosse] stirrer who has nothing better to do with their time.
You're clearly obsessed with the team if you know so much about all of our players. Did you not get enough hugs from mommy and daddy when you were little?
Good Luck to all teams playing today!!
ESM Exaggerated Stats Man ..... everyone knows it now. stop it already.
Any results in yet from today??
[quote=Anonymous]ESM Exaggerated Stats Man ..... everyone knows it now. stop it already. [/quote
Everyone knows what? That only people who write negative comments on boards like these are just mad about their own short comings and lack of success in their own lives so they put down everyone around them to make themselves feel better? You must have spent a lot of time in the dean's office and harbor resentment that you aren't as talented and athletic and successful as a bunch of 15, 16 and 17 year old girls. Thank goodness these girls have bright futures and great schools to look forward to. People like you are what motivates them to do even better. And that is no exaggeration.
Any results in yet from today??
Northport 12 Bay Shore 11
West Islip 9 West Babylon 8
Middle Country 21 Sachem East 12
Hauppauge 11 Smithtown East 8
[quote=Anonymous]ESM Exaggerated Stats Man ..... everyone knows it now. stop it already. [/quote
Everyone knows what? That only people who write negative comments on boards like these are just mad about their own short comings and lack of success in their own lives so they put down everyone around them to make themselves feel better? You must have spent a lot of time in the dean's office and harbor resentment that you aren't as talented and athletic and successful as a bunch of 15, 16 and 17 year old girls. Thank goodness these girls have bright futures and great schools to look forward to. People like you are what motivates them to do even better. And that is no exaggeration.
AMEN!!!
Anyone know who selects the Newsday All Long Island Team? Is it the writers, coaches, both?
Any results in yet from today??
Northport 12 Bay Shore 11
West Islip 9 West Babylon 8
Middle Country 21 Sachem East 12
Hauppauge 11 Smithtown East 8
Congrats to all on a great season good luck to the winners in the next round!! Good luck to all teams playing tomorrow!!
Anyone know who selects the Newsday All Long Island Team? Is it the writers, coaches, both?
does it go by reported stats???
Anyone know who selects the Newsday All Long Island Team? Is it the writers, coaches, both?
does it go by reported stats???
I sure hope not. Defenders wouldn't have a chance in that case. But given what every other award and recognition seems to glorify, my bank is on stats. :-/
Anyone know who selects the Newsday All Long Island Team? Is it the writers, coaches, both?
does it go by reported stats???
I sure hope not. Defenders wouldn't have a chance in that case. But given what every other award and recognition seems to glorify, my bank is on stats. :-/
Defenders and freshman rarely get recognized. At least they started to recognize both a little bit more in the player of the week tributes.
Anyone know who selects the Newsday All Long Island Team? Is it the writers, coaches, both?
does it go by reported stats???
I sure hope not. Defenders wouldn't have a chance in that case. But given what every other award and recognition seems to glorify, my bank is on stats. :-/
All political. Joke really.
Anyone know who selects the Newsday All Long Island Team? Is it the writers, coaches, both?
does it go by reported stats???
I sure hope not. Defenders wouldn't have a chance in that case. But given what every other award and recognition seems to glorify, my bank is on stats. :-/
Stats should include Ground Balls amd Caused Turn Overs that way Defenders and Middies can get some better recognition. IMO
Anyone know who selects the Newsday All Long Island Team? Is it the writers, coaches, both?
does it go by reported stats???
I sure hope not. Defenders wouldn't have a chance in that case. But given what every other award and recognition seems to glorify, my bank is on stats. :-/
Defenders and freshman rarely get recognized. At least they started to recognize both a little bit more in the player of the week tributes.
I know! I was happy to see that.
Anyone know who selects the Newsday All Long Island Team? Is it the writers, coaches, both?
does it go by reported stats???
I sure hope not. Defenders wouldn't have a chance in that case. But given what every other award and recognition seems to glorify, my bank is on stats. :-/
Stats should include Ground Balls amd Caused Turn Overs that way Defenders and Middies can get some better recognition. IMO
Agree. Then the coaches and Newsday could mess up reporting those stats, too. Hahaha, I'm being cynical but I really would like to see those stats being kept.
Anyone know who selects the Newsday All Long Island Team? Is it the writers, coaches, both?
does it go by reported stats???
I sure hope not. Defenders wouldn't have a chance in that case. But given what every other award and recognition seems to glorify, my bank is on stats. :-/
Stats should include Ground Balls amd Caused Turn Overs that way Defenders and Middies can get some better recognition. IMO
Agree. Then the coaches and Newsday could mess up reporting those stats, too. Hahaha, I'm being cynical but I really would like to see those stats being kept.
Colleges capture the info. All games have score keepers keeping the books. It would be a more accurate representation of all the stats that make up what matters in a "team" game.
Regarding the discussion of stats and score keeping, I thought this was an interesting read (although a bit dry)
http://www.uslacrosse.org/portals/1/documents/pdf/rules/womens-lacrosse-stat-guide.pdf
I never knew that an assist should be awarded if the shooter runs thirty yards after the pass and scores as long as she doesn't need to evade the defense
I never knew that an assist should be awarded if the shooter runs thirty yards after the pass and scores as long as she doesn't need to evade the defense
In my older child's D1 college experience, her coach was padding stats for one of his favorites by crediting her with assists when she was two touches back from the goal. Two girls would get assist credits for the third girl's goal!
I never knew that an assist should be awarded if the shooter runs thirty yards after the pass and scores as long as she doesn't need to evade the defense
This is to credit the "breakaway" pass or a pass over the defense. See it more at high school and lower play.
As with anything to do with numbers a play can be interpreted wrong. I've seen someone give credit for a draw control and ground ball on the same play during a high school game. They do a great job at the collegiate level.
Esm 13-10 over Westhampton
Congrats to ESM 13 10 over WHB. ESM's goalie was the difference down the stretch. Very impressive at the end of the game. Congrats to the WHB seniors on a great season and career.
So I guess Sayville has the better goalie then Huntington!! Suddenly goalie dad from Huntington goes silent!!!
Good Luck to all teams playing today!!
Congrats ESM so glad u beat Westhampton!!
Congrats to ESM 13 10 over WHB. ESM's goalie was the difference down the stretch. Very impressive at the end of the game. Congrats to the WHB seniors on a great season and career.
was a great game best of luck to WH seniors you guys played your hearts out. Good Luck ESM in the next round very classy game against two rival teams.
Huntington just handed ESM another Suffolk title! They lost in OT to Sayville .Sayville's goalie won them the game and Huntingtons coach lost them the game! Go Sayville they had the better Coach!!! And Goalie!!!
Syosset 6-5 over Massapequa. Great game.
Anyone know who selects the Newsday All Long Island Team? Is it the writers, coaches, both?
does it go by reported stats???
I sure hope not. Defenders wouldn't have a chance in that case. But given what every other award and recognition seems to glorify, my bank is on stats. :-/
Stats should include Ground Balls amd Caused Turn Overs that way Defenders and Middies can get some better recognition. IMO
LOL. we cant get the stat girls to get goals and assists correct ... can u imagine if they had to keep draw controls and ground balls..
So I guess Sayville has the better goalie then Huntington!! Suddenly goalie dad from Huntington goes silent!!!
Huntington goalie along with the refs kept them in the game.
Congrats to ESM 13 10 over WHB. ESM's goalie was the difference down the stretch. Very impressive at the end of the game. Congrats to the WHB seniors on a great season and career.
Here we go again goalie dad, and how many saves did she have 500.
Bayshore and West Babylon got ripped. all about the officials.
Huntington coach lost the game ! Sayville had the better coaching staff!
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
So I guess Sayville has the better goalie then Huntington!! Suddenly goalie dad from Huntington goes silent!!!
Huntington goalie along with the refs kept them in the game.
of course you would say that
Congrats to ESM 13 10 over WHB. ESM's goalie was the difference down the stretch. Very impressive at the end of the game. Congrats to the WHB seniors on a great season and career.
Here we go again goalie dad, and how many saves did she have 500.
great game played by both teams. Classy group both goalies made some great saves and both teams played their hearts out and left it on the field. True definition of playoff lacrosse it could have gone either way. Congrats to the WH seniors good luck in whatever the next phase of your life may bring. You all did a great job. Good Luck to ESM as you take on Sayville next week!!
Best Goalie in Suffolk played at Ward Melville
Bayshore and West Babylon got ripped. all about the officials.
Were there specific calls or just in general?
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
Two talented girls, then a noticeable drop.
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
Actually not the case, yes they have a few talented goalies but only one can play at a time. Field wise not very deep at all, have 1 very talented kid , then 2 or 3 more solid players after that not much. Unfortunately for them other teams know who they have to stop .
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
Two talented girls, then a noticeable drop.
Huntington has many talented girls, it just didn't go there way
Huntington just handed ESM another Suffolk title! They lost in OT to Sayville .Sayville's goalie won them the game and Huntingtons coach lost them the game! Go Sayville they had the better Coach!!! And Goalie!!!
wow always someone else to blame. How about Sayville stepped up Huntington did not show a little class and stop playing the blame game. Sincerely a Huntington parent
Oh please. Bay Shore and West Bab lost to better teams.
Oh please. Bay Shore and West Bab lost to better teams.
Heard Northport had a goal taken away because of an illegal stick and still won.
Oh please. Bay Shore and West Bab lost to better teams.
When is the next time these two schools will be back in the playoffs. Not sure how many underclassman Bay Shore has but doesn't West Babylon have a few underclassmen.
Wonder if SS could have done any better at either of these schools.
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
Two talented girls, then a noticeable drop.
Huntington has many talented girls, it just didn't go there way
well if you ask the goalie dad Huntington won all their games because of her. I personally saw two talented players and then a significant drop off as well. With the good coach they have they will develope.
Good Luck to all teams playing today!!
Congrats ESM so glad u beat Westhampton!!
Both teams played great!!
So I guess Sayville has the better goalie then Huntington!! Suddenly goalie dad from Huntington goes silent!!!
Huntington goalie along with the refs kept them in the game.
But of course I heard the Rocky Point game Huntington goalie only saw 5 shots I guess she played defense too and stopped them from getting to the goal. I would be embarrassed to be your child and the team should just sit down and let the goalie play the whole game herself since all you seem to say is she is the reason they won games or stayed in the game..it takes more then one person to run a village my friend and there always has to be the idiot in that village as well..you can figure that one out I am sure. and YES I AM A HUNTINGTON PARENT!!!!
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
when in doubt blame the coach I hate that only an idiot says that
Oh please. Bay Shore and West Bab lost to better teams.
what were the scores again!?! I would say better on that day yes but those were the games to watch as I put earlier.
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
Actually not the case, yes they have a few talented goalies but only one can play at a time. Field wise not very deep at all, have 1 very talented kid , then 2 or 3 more solid players after that not much. Unfortunately for them other teams know who they have to stop .
One very talented and the rest just solid? Come on man.
Bayshore and West Babylon got ripped. all about the officials.
Were there specific calls or just in general?
Wow! Able to see both games at once...very impressive!
And a rules expert...awesome!
[quote=Anonymous]FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
YJ protege lol, beats up on weak teams and gets out coached by the other teams weather its YJ or Sachem the results are the same.
[quote=Anonymous]FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
YJ protege lol, beats up on weak teams and gets out coached by the other teams weather its YJ or Sachem the results are the same.
Whover keeps coming on here trying to "make" the "YJ protege" happen, stop. All you're doing is putting a target on her back. Cream rises to the top whether it's promoted or not. If this kid is as good as you say, then it will become obvious to us all. Until then, give it a rest.
Secondly, no one player makes a team. Witness the Islip sisters. They can score like crazy but they couldn't carry their team to playoffs. NO ONE CAN.
[quote=Anonymous]FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
YJ protege lol, beats up on weak teams and gets out coached by the other teams weather its YJ or Sachem the results are the same.
Whover keeps coming on here trying to "make" the "YJ protege" happen, stop. All you're doing is putting a target on her back. Cream rises to the top whether it's promoted or not. If this kid is as good as you say, then it will become obvious to us all. Until then, give it a rest.
Secondly, no one player makes a team. Witness the Islip sisters. They can score like crazy but they couldn't carry their team to playoffs. NO ONE CAN.
Except Mt. sinai
[quote=Anonymous]FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
YJ protege lol, beats up on weak teams and gets out coached by the other teams weather its YJ or Sachem the results are the same.
Whover keeps coming on here trying to "make" the "YJ protege" happen, stop. All you're doing is putting a target on her back. Cream rises to the top whether it's promoted or not. If this kid is as good as you say, then it will become obvious to us all. Until then, give it a rest.
Secondly, no one player makes a team. Witness the Islip sisters. They can score like crazy but they couldn't carry their team to playoffs. NO ONE CAN.
Except Mt. sinai
Except Mt. Sinai? What? They are a bit more than one player. Please. They're deep.
[quote=Anonymous]FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
YJ protege lol, beats up on weak teams and gets out coached by the other teams weather its YJ or Sachem the results are the same.
Whover keeps coming on here trying to "make" the "YJ protege" happen, stop. All you're doing is putting a target on her back. Cream rises to the top whether it's promoted or not. If this kid is as good as you say, then it will become obvious to us all. Until then, give it a rest.
Secondly, no one player makes a team. Witness the Islip sisters. They can score like crazy but they couldn't carry their team to playoffs. NO ONE CAN.
Except Mt. sinai
Mt. Sinai definitely has way more than one player!
[quote=Anonymous]FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
YJ protege lol, beats up on weak teams and gets out coached by the other teams weather its YJ or Sachem the results are the same.
Whover keeps coming on here trying to "make" the "YJ protege" happen, stop. All you're doing is putting a target on her back. Cream rises to the top whether it's promoted or not. If this kid is as good as you say, then it will become obvious to us all. Until then, give it a rest.
Secondly, no one player makes a team. Witness the Islip sisters. They can score like crazy but they couldn't carry their team to playoffs. NO ONE CAN.
You are so bitter about those girls, relax, they made it to the quarter finals and without them that doesn't happen. Move on and get a life! Those girls are awesome on the field and off
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
Actually not the case, yes they have a few talented goalies but only one can play at a time. Field wise not very deep at all, have 1 very talented kid , then 2 or 3 more solid players after that not much. Unfortunately for them other teams know who they have to stop .
One very talented and the rest just solid? Come on man.
You have over used your catch phrase ,do you think they have no very talented players or more than 1 . Have watched them play many times have 1 kid in top 20 for her age group on Long Island , other kids are good but not top on their age group let alone top when you combine all age groups.
WI over MC by 1. Game winner with :00 on the clock.
[quote=Anonymous]FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
YJ protege lol, beats up on weak teams and gets out coached by the other teams weather its YJ or Sachem the results are the same.
Whover keeps coming on here trying to "make" the "YJ protege" happen, stop. All you're doing is putting a target on her back. Cream rises to the top whether it's promoted or not. If this kid is as good as you say, then it will become obvious to us all. Until then, give it a rest.
Secondly, no one player makes a team. Witness the Islip sisters. They can score like crazy but they couldn't carry their team to playoffs. NO ONE CAN.
Except Mt. sinai
Mt. Sinai definitely has way more than one player!
Yes they have 3 offensive players not sure the other kids are even allowed to shoot the ball
WI over MC by 1. Game winner with :00 on the clock.
0 means no time.
One ref said No Goal.
After much discussion and no "balls"
it was decided no to go to overtime and just give WI the win.
Shame.
Mt. SINAI has one hey special player and a solid back up group. Take her off team, they are still a good team, but not even close to what they are now. There are many very special players that also greatly improve the teams they play on, she is lucky because she plays on a good team, feel bad for some great players who don't have the strong team support.The team is head a shoulders above their division rivals with her, slugging it out in the top three without her.
WI over MC by 1. Game winner with :00 on the clock.
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Attended the Northport/Hauppauge game tonight. Hauppauge looked very impressive tonight. The final should be a heckuva game with West Islip. Good luck to Hauppauge and West Islip!
Hauppauge spanks Northport ,, looks like its West Islip and Hauppauge for the Suffolk Championship.
Hauppauge spanks Northport ,, looks like its West Islip and Hauppauge for the Suffolk Championship.
spanked is an understatement hauppauge dominated!!! Congrats girls you earned it
Hauppauge spanks Northport ,, looks like its West Islip and Hauppauge for the Suffolk Championship.
spanked is an understatement hauppauge dominated!!! Congrats girls you earned it
Hats off to Carol Rose and Northport. They did it this season with smoke and mirrors and ended up a #3 seed. They beat Bay Shore (two words) on Monday when no one gave them a chance. They got beat by a better team tonight but she sure can coach!
Good luck Hauppauge!
Hauppauge spanks Northport ,, looks like its West Islip and Hauppauge for the Suffolk Championship.
spanked is an understatement hauppauge dominated!!! Congrats girls you earned it
Hats off to Carol Rose and Northport. They did it this season with smoke and mirrors and ended up a #3 seed. They beat Bay Shore (two words) on Monday when no one gave them a chance. They got beat by a better team tonight but she sure can coach!
Good luck Hauppauge!
Come on put your name to it. What YJ team is your Daughter on
you should of been at the game you have no idea what your talking about
its not a shame its the game
Hauppauge spanks Northport ,, looks like its West Islip and Hauppauge for the Suffolk Championship.
spanked is an understatement hauppauge dominated!!! Congrats girls you earned it
Hats off to Carol Rose and Northport. They did it this season with smoke and mirrors and ended up a #3 seed. They beat Bay Shore (two words) on Monday when no one gave them a chance. They got beat by a better team tonight but she sure can coach!
Good luck Hauppauge!
Come on put your name to it. What YJ team is your Daughter on
One of the "Blue" teams. Lol
Hauppauge spanks Northport ,, looks like its West Islip and Hauppauge for the Suffolk Championship.
spanked is an understatement hauppauge dominated!!! Congrats girls you earned it
Hats off to Carol Rose and Northport. They did it this season with smoke and mirrors and ended up a #3 seed. They beat Bay Shore (two words) on Monday when no one gave them a chance. They got beat by a better team tonight but she sure can coach!
Good luck Hauppauge!
Hats off?? She has a team that plays year round together (which breaks the rules) and she still can't get it done?
WI over MC by 1. Game winner with :00 on the clock.
0 means no time.
One ref said No Goal.
After much discussion and no "balls"
it was decided no to go to overtime and just give WI the win.
Shame.
Not true. There was no immediate signal...the 3 officials got together to discuss what they had. There's no doubt however that it was an extremely close call.
MC had the ball in their end with 0:33 and gave it up without a shot. Should have at least held it for OT.
Hauppauge spanks Northport ,, looks like its West Islip and Hauppauge for the Suffolk Championship.
spanked is an understatement hauppauge dominated!!! Congrats girls you earned it
Hats off to Carol Rose and Northport. They did it this season with smoke and mirrors and ended up a #3 seed. They beat Bay Shore (two words) on Monday when no one gave them a chance. They got beat by a better team tonight but she sure can coach!
Good luck Hauppauge!
Hats off?? She has a team that plays year round together (which breaks the rules) and she still can't get it done?
Why do people insist on coming on this site and posting ignorant comments. Breaks what rules ? I have seen a Northport team at several off season tournaments with no coach , they just substitute themselves in and play the game. Let me guess some other person told you what they do is illegal so you just believe everything you hear.
Hauppauge spanks Northport ,, looks like its West Islip and Hauppauge for the Suffolk Championship.
spanked is an understatement hauppauge dominated!!! Congrats girls you earned it
Hats off to Carol Rose and Northport. They did it this season with smoke and mirrors and ended up a #3 seed. They beat Bay Shore (two words) on Monday when no one gave them a chance. They got beat by a better team tonight but she sure can coach!
Good luck Hauppauge!
Hats off?? She has a team that plays year round together (which breaks the rules) and she still can't get it done?
Why do people insist on coming on this site and posting ignorant comments. Breaks what rules ? I have seen a Northport team at several off season tournaments with no coach , they just substitute themselves in and play the game. Let me guess some other person told you what they do is illegal so you just believe everything you hear.
Has to be true, it's on the internet.
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
Actually not the case, yes they have a few talented goalies but only one can play at a time. Field wise not very deep at all, have 1 very talented kid , then 2 or 3 more solid players after that not much. Unfortunately for them other teams know who they have to stop .
One very talented and the rest just solid? Come on man.
You have over used your catch phrase ,do you think they have no very talented players or more than 1 . Have watched them play many times have 1 kid in top 20 for her age group on Long Island , other kids are good but not top on their age group let alone top when you combine all age groups.
more than 1, lots of div one commits
Game should have went to OT!, ref had it right, NO GOAL - Tough break for the visiting team, lucky break for the home team.
Game should have went to OT!, ref had it right, NO GOAL - Tough break for the visiting team, lucky break for the home team.
they have been lucky last two playoff games.
cant get two closer games
I saw that win. I'm not that up on Nassau teams but that was an upset, no?
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
Actually not the case, yes they have a few talented goalies but only one can play at a time. Field wise not very deep at all, have 1 very talented kid , then 2 or 3 more solid players after that not much. Unfortunately for them other teams know who they have to stop .
One very talented and the rest just solid? Come on man.
You have over used your catch phrase ,do you think they have no very talented players or more than 1 . Have watched them play many times have 1 kid in top 20 for her age group on Long Island , other kids are good but not top on their age group let alone top when you combine all age groups.
more than 1, lots of div one commits
WHo has lots of D1 committs Huntington. This is a team last year they couldnt even get out of their own way and now suddenly they are a top D1 group of college commits team...get real PAL
Huntington coach lost that game or lack of! Defense was pretty bad too. Sayville goalie was great! Huntington was not!
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
Actually not the case, yes they have a few talented goalies but only one can play at a time. Field wise not very deep at all, have 1 very talented kid , then 2 or 3 more solid players after that not much. Unfortunately for them other teams know who they have to stop .
One very talented and the rest just solid? Come on man.
You have over used your catch phrase ,do you think they have no very talented players or more than 1 . Have watched them play many times have 1 kid in top 20 for her age group on Long Island , other kids are good but not top on their age group let alone top when you combine all age groups.
more than 1, lots of div one commits
4 D1 Commits and of the 4 I would say Ohio State and Stony Brook are the only real D1 programs...AMERICAN may be D1 but really any midddle line D2 school and top D3 school could beat them
Congrats to the Girls from Wantagh and Manhasset from the tiny Box scores in Newsday and lack of MSG Varsity coverage you wouldn't have know that Nassau Class B Semis were Yesterday for Girls lacrosse. Also heaven forbid they cover two Garden City Losses on the same day. There is no joy in Mudville.
Congrats to the Girls from Wantagh and Manhasset from the tiny Box scores in Newsday and lack of MSG Varsity coverage you wouldn't have know that Nassau Class B Semis were Yesterday for Girls lacrosse. Also heaven forbid they cover two Garden City Losses on the same day. There is no joy in Mudville.
No coverage of Suffolk B either. At least you had tweets from msgvarsity and quick.
Time for a coaching change. Ridiculous talent on that team.
Actually not the case, yes they have a few talented goalies but only one can play at a time. Field wise not very deep at all, have 1 very talented kid , then 2 or 3 more solid players after that not much. Unfortunately for them other teams know who they have to stop . [/quote]
One very talented and the rest just solid? Come on man. [/quote]
You have over used your catch phrase ,do you think they have no very talented players or more than 1 . Have watched them play many times have 1 kid in top 20 for her age group on Long Island , other kids are good but not top on their age group let alone top when you combine all age groups. [/quote]
more than 1, lots of div one commits [/quote] WHo has lots of D1 committs Huntington. This is a team last year they couldnt even get out of their own way and now suddenly they are a top D1 group of college commits team...get real PAL [/quote]
Lots of talent with very little coaching. Mom is over her head.
GC was very over rated to begin with.
In response to the Huntington post about the Real D1's at the school, what about the young lady going to Notre Dame?? Not a real D1?
She is the best player on that team and brought them to the next level..........
Congrats to the Girls from Wantagh and Manhasset from the tiny Box scores in Newsday and lack of MSG Varsity coverage you wouldn't have know that Nassau Class B Semis were Yesterday for Girls lacrosse. Also heaven forbid they cover two Garden City Losses on the same day. There is no joy in Mudville.
Sure - MSG & Newsday are in a conspiracy with Garden City high school lacrosse
Congrats to Wantagh & Manhasset. It's all about coaching.
[quote=Anonymous]Hauppauge spanks Northport ,, looks like its West Islip and Hauppauge for the Suffolk Championship.
spanked is an understatement hauppauge dominated!!! Congrats girls you earned it
Hats off to Carol Rose and Northport. They did it this season with smoke and mirrors and ended up a #3 seed. They beat Bay Shore (two words) on Monday when no one gave them a chance. They got beat by a better team tonight but she sure can coach!
Good luck Hauppauge!
Kiss up. How was that a great coaching job when you just got smoked.
[quote=baldbear][quote=Anonymous]FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
YJ protege lol, beats up on weak teams and gets out coached by the other teams weather its YJ or Sachem the results are the same.
Whover keeps coming on here trying to "make" the "YJ protege" happen, stop. All you're doing is putting a target on her back. Cream rises to the top whether it's promoted or not. If this kid is as good as you say, then it will become obvious to us all. Until then, give it a rest.
Secondly, no one player makes a team. Witness the Islip sisters. They can score like crazy but they couldn't carry their team to playoffs. NO ONE CAN.
Silly the protege reference is to the coach of Sachem her mentor is coaching Northport. The results were the same for both in the playoffs.
Congrats to the Girls from Wantagh and Manhasset from the tiny Box scores in Newsday and lack of MSG Varsity coverage you wouldn't have know that Nassau Class B Semis were Yesterday for Girls lacrosse. Also heaven forbid they cover two Garden City Losses on the same day. There is no joy in Mudville.
Sure - MSG & Newsday are in a conspiracy with Garden City high school lacrosse
Congrats to Wantagh & Manhasset. It's all about coaching.
MSG and Newsday are on the GC parents payroll
[quote=baldbear][quote=Anonymous]FINAL STANDINGS
DIV I
West Islip 14-0-0 16-0-0 187.140
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-3-0 150.710
Northport 10-4-0 10-6-0 150.000
Middle Country 10-4-0 11-5-0 144.990
Sachem East 9-5-0 10-5-0 139.280
Bay Shore 9-5-0 9-5-0 137.140
Smithtown West 10-4-0 11-5-0 135.900
West Babylon 8-6-0 10-6-0 128.570
Ward Melville 8-6-0 9-6-0 127.140
Smithtown East 9-5-0 11-5-0 124.480
Sachem North 9-5-0 9-7-0 115.190
Longwood 9-5-0 10-6-0 113.050
Heres how it happened
Northport drops to 3 with loss to Sachm E
Sachem E moves up to 5 with win
Smith W drops to 7 for doing nothing
Bayshore moves up to 6 for beating Ward Melville
West Babylon drops to 8 loss to East Islip
Ward Melville drops a spot with loss to Bayshore
Longwood at Sachem E
Sachem N at Bay shore
Smith East at Smith West
Ward Melville at West Babylon
This is a great bracket with some great match ups.
Smithtown East vs Smithtown West--they played a great non-league game at the end of the season.
Ward Melville vs West Babylon--A great 8-9 matchup
Sachem North vs Bay Shore--Bay Shore has their mojo back, it seems, but Sachem North can score. Also, if Sachem North can pull off the upset, the next round game is YJ protege vs YJ Queen.
my vote is for a Sachem North win!! YJ protege is doing a great job developing what was a weak program even if it's just the win against Bay Shore she deserves it!!
YJ protege lol, beats up on weak teams and gets out coached by the other teams weather its YJ or Sachem the results are the same.
Whover keeps coming on here trying to "make" the "YJ protege" happen, stop. All you're doing is putting a target on her back. Cream rises to the top whether it's promoted or not. If this kid is as good as you say, then it will become obvious to us all. Until then, give it a rest.
Secondly, no one player makes a team. Witness the Islip sisters. They can score like crazy but they couldn't carry their team to playoffs. NO ONE CAN.
Silly the protege reference is to the coach of Sachem her mentor is coaching Northport. The results were the same for both in the playoffs.
Oh well, still thought it should have been BS v WI. Who will the coach for BS (two initials) be next year?
In response to the Huntington post about the Real D1's at the school, what about the young lady going to Notre Dame?? Not a real D1?
She is the best player on that team and brought them to the next level..........
Our Lady of Mercy girl?? I wonder what that school district did to actually get her parents to allow her to come. Would not put her on the same page on playing field with any of the Huntington High School girls
I was at the game and it will be remembered forever as a great game. The shot was awesome and when the net was hit, there was :00.1 still on the clock. You won't hear any sour grapes from us. Both teams absolutely gave it everything they had and left it all on the field! Congratulations to all the girls on West Islip!
Middle Country Girls lax would like to wish both teams the best of luck in the Finals.
Congrats to the Girls from Wantagh and Manhasset from the tiny Box scores in Newsday and lack of MSG Varsity coverage you wouldn't have know that Nassau Class B Semis were Yesterday for Girls lacrosse. Also heaven forbid they cover two Garden City Losses on the same day. There is no joy in Mudville.
No coverage of Suffolk B either. At least you had tweets from msgvarsity and quick.
Have to say the Coverage of both the Nassau,Suffolk Girls and CHSAA Playoffs yesterday was clearly lacking but they were sure to cover Two Nassau Boys Teams
I was at the game and it will be remembered forever as a great game. The shot was awesome and when the net was hit, there was :00.1 still on the clock. You won't hear any sour grapes from us. Both teams absolutely gave it everything they had and left it all on the field! Congratulations to all the girls on West Islip!
Middle Country Girls lax would like to wish both teams the best of luck in the Finals.
MC will be a force to recon with! That team is scary good with all of the 9th and 10th graders you have. Much respect for your team from the WI parents
Oh well, still thought it should have been BS v WI. Who will the coach for BS (two initials) be next year?
BS of Topguns
Oh well, still thought it should have been BS v WI. Who will the coach for BS (two initials) be next year?
BS of Topguns
Bay Shore could have won but they scored one less goal than Northport. That's the formula for winning, score at least one more goal than your opponent. Ask West Islip.
Oh well, still thought it should have been BS v WI. Who will the coach for BS (two initials) be next year?
BS of Topguns
Maybe West Babylon Not Bay Shore! That ship sailed two years ago!
I was at the game and it will be remembered forever as a great game. The shot was awesome and when the net was hit, there was :00.1 still on the clock. You won't hear any sour grapes from us. Both teams absolutely gave it everything they had and left it all on the field! Congratulations to all the girls on West Islip!
Middle Country Girls lax would like to wish both teams the best of luck in the Finals.
MC will be a force to recon with! That team is scary good with all of the 9th and 10th graders you have. Much respect for your team from the WI parents
Nice try MC mom... "J.O." I mean "S.O."
I was at the game and it will be remembered forever as a great game. The shot was awesome and when the net was hit, there was :00.1 still on the clock. You won't hear any sour grapes from us. Both teams absolutely gave it everything they had and left it all on the field! Congratulations to all the girls on West Islip!
Middle Country Girls lax would like to wish both teams the best of luck in the Finals.
MC will be a force to recon with! That team is scary good with all of the 9th and 10th graders you have. Much respect for your team from the WI parents
Nice try MC mom... "J.O." I mean "S.O."
Sorry not from the SO family. Why would she need to say anything anyway. Actions on the field speak louder than bragging on this board.
Oh well, still thought it should have been BS v WI. Who will the coach for BS (two initials) be next year?
BS of Topguns
Bay Shore could have won but they scored one less goal than Northport. That's the formula for winning, score at least one more goal than your opponent. Ask West Islip.
That is why you play the game. That is why sport is great. I will say Good luck to Hauppauge. Sorry I discounted you this whole time. As a fan you cant go wrong with so many close games that could have one either way.
Just look out for Suffern. Those girls are tough not to much room in their loses. $ goal differential in 3 loses in teams who at the time where hot. They also played matched well with the island schools in the beginning of the year scrimmages.
I was at the game and it will be remembered forever as a great game. The shot was awesome and when the net was hit, there was :00.1 still on the clock. You won't hear any sour grapes from us. Both teams absolutely gave it everything they had and left it all on the field! Congratulations to all the girls on West Islip!
Middle Country Girls lax would like to wish both teams the best of luck in the Finals.
MC will be a force to recon with! That team is scary good with all of the 9th and 10th graders you have. Much respect for your team from the WI parents
Nice try MC mom... "J.O." I mean "S.O."
I was at the game and it will be remembered forever as a great game. The shot was awesome and when the net was hit, there was :00.1 still on the clock. You won't hear any sour grapes from us. Both teams absolutely gave it everything they had and left it all on the field! Congratulations to all the girls on West Islip!
Middle Country Girls lax would like to wish both teams the best of luck in the Finals.
MC will be a force to recon with! That team is scary good with all of the 9th and 10th graders you have. Much respect for your team from the WI parents
Nice try MC mom... "J.O." I mean "S.O."
West Islip parents have much respect for the MC team ! Very happy to not have to play them till next year.
Ummmm...Suffern? Still need to beat Section 8 champ....
I was at the game and it will be remembered forever as a great game. The shot was awesome and when the net was hit, there was :00.1 still on the clock. You won't hear any sour grapes from us. Both teams absolutely gave it everything they had and left it all on the field! Congratulations to all the girls on West Islip!
Middle Country Girls lax would like to wish both teams the best of luck in the Finals.
MC will be a force to recon with! That team is scary good with all of the 9th and 10th graders you have. Much respect for your team from the WI parents
Nice try MC mom... "J.O." I mean "S.O."
I was at the game and it will be remembered forever as a great game. The shot was awesome and when the net was hit, there was :00.1 still on the clock. You won't hear any sour grapes from us. Both teams absolutely gave it everything they had and left it all on the field! Congratulations to all the girls on West Islip!
Middle Country Girls lax would like to wish both teams the best of luck in the Finals.
MC will be a force to recon with! That team is scary good with all of the 9th and 10th graders you have. Much respect for your team from the WI parents
Nice try MC mom... "J.O." I mean "S.O."
West Islip parents have much respect for the MC team ! Very happy to not have to play them till next year.
S**t stirrer!
Ummmm...Suffern? Still need to beat Section 8 champ....
In the voice of the cosmetology lady from Legally blonde - (AKA Stiffler's mom - from American pie) donkey!!!
I was writing for the benefit of both xi and viii - wasn't there Vii teams out at that scrimmage, you should be afraid be very afraid.
I was at the game and it will be remembered forever as a great game. The shot was awesome and when the net was hit, there was :00.1 still on the clock. You won't hear any sour grapes from us. Both teams absolutely gave it everything they had and left it all on the field! Congratulations to all the girls on West Islip!
Middle Country Girls lax would like to wish both teams the best of luck in the Finals.
not this week
MC will be a force to recon with! That team is scary good with all of the 9th and 10th graders you have. Much respect for your team from the WI parents
Thursdays championships
Hauppauge over West Islip, Hauppauge too much fire power, WI been very lucky. Double and face guard that WI girl that scored late last week and WI not much after that.
Sayville over WSM, Sayville Defense and goalie too strong for ESM
Mt Sinai over SWR, Mt Sinai wins large, way to strong all around.
Thursdays championships
Hauppauge over West Islip, Hauppauge too much fire power, WI been very lucky. Double and face guard that WI girl that scored late last week and WI not much after that.
Sayville over WSM, Sayville Defense and goalie too strong for ESM
Mt Sinai over SWR, Mt Sinai wins large, way to strong all around.
Please stop. WI undefeated and will win again and be Suffolk A Champs.
Sayville plays ESM. ESM by 5. B Champs
Mt. Sinai plays Bayport. Mt. Sinai too much for Bayport, Mt. Sinai double digit
winner. C Champs.
Ummmm...Suffern? Still need to beat Section 8 champ....
Watched the Suffern team give the elite YJ blue team all they could handle at a winter tournament. They actually won the game at the horn, both teams headed off field with game decided, refs add 30 seconds somehow and start game back up for a yj win. Point is the yj team is made of the best player or two from many LI HS teams. The teams that YJ field are vastly superior to your average HS team, so if they had trouble with Suffern, LI school teams may be in for a ride.
Ummmm...Suffern? Still need to beat Section 8 champ....
Watched the Suffern team give the elite YJ blue team all they could handle at a winter tournament. They actually won the game at the horn, both teams headed off field with game decided, refs add 30 seconds somehow and start game back up for a yj win. Point is the yj team is made of the best player or two from many LI HS teams. The teams that YJ field are vastly superior to your average HS team, so if they had trouble with Suffern, LI school teams may be in for a ride.
No offense but what age and what YJ team?
Ummmm...Suffern? Still need to beat Section 8 champ....
Watched the Suffern team give the elite YJ blue team all they could handle at a winter tournament. They actually won the game at the horn, both teams headed off field with game decided, refs add 30 seconds somehow and start game back up for a yj win. Point is the yj team is made of the best player or two from many LI HS teams. The teams that YJ field are vastly superior to your average HS team, so if they had trouble with Suffern, LI school teams may be in for a ride.
I think that the "Ummmmm.... Suffern?" was a wise crack comment because - I think - the poster thought I was a Sect Xi parent over looking Sect viii before getting to Suffern. I wasn't!
All I was saying was anyone coming off the island was in for a ride like you said. I am glad someone else is paying attention to what lies ahead.
Ummmm...Suffern? Still need to beat Section 8 champ....
Watched the Suffern team give the elite YJ blue team all they could handle at a winter tournament. They actually won the game at the horn, both teams headed off field with game decided, refs add 30 seconds somehow and start game back up for a yj win. Point is the yj team is made of the best player or two from many LI HS teams. The teams that YJ field are vastly superior to your average HS team, so if they had trouble with Suffern, LI school teams may be in for a ride.
The ref was probably someone on CR's payroll, can't have a YJ team lose while they have a whistle and control of the game.
Ummmm...Suffern? Still need to beat Section 8 champ....
Watched the Suffern team give the elite YJ blue team all they could handle at a winter tournament. They actually won the game at the horn, both teams headed off field with game decided, refs add 30 seconds somehow and start game back up for a yj win. Point is the yj team is made of the best player or two from many LI HS teams. The teams that YJ field are vastly superior to your average HS team, so if they had trouble with Suffern, LI school teams may be in for a ride.
No offense but what age and what YJ team?
Lets see, first they easily sent home 2016 blue, the same team every YJ parent on BOTC has boosted about obsessively as the best YJ team ever, they then beat 2015 blue until the ref interjected.
Ummmm...Suffern? Still need to beat Section 8 champ....
Watched the Suffern team give the elite YJ blue team all they could handle at a winter tournament. They actually won the game at the horn, both teams headed off field with game decided, refs add 30 seconds somehow and start game back up for a yj win. Point is the yj team is made of the best player or two from many LI HS teams. The teams that YJ field are vastly superior to your average HS team, so if they had trouble with Suffern, LI school teams may be in for a ride.
No offense but what age and what YJ team?
Lets see, first they easily sent home 2016 blue, the same team every YJ parent on BOTC has boosted about obsessively as the best YJ team ever, they then beat 2015 blue until the ref interjected.
See this is why you get YJ parents to react , a [lacrosse] trying to stir the pot comes in and makes crap up. 2016 blue against Suffern , really ,when and where.
Ummmm...Suffern? Still need to beat Section 8 champ....
Watched the Suffern team give the elite YJ blue team all they could handle at a winter tournament. They actually won the game at the horn, both teams headed off field with game decided, refs add 30 seconds somehow and start game back up for a yj win. Point is the yj team is made of the best player or two from many LI HS teams. The teams that YJ field are vastly superior to your average HS team, so if they had trouble with Suffern, LI school teams may be in for a ride.
No doubt Suffern could beat Maryland or Syracuse Womens Lax. Can you let a team win the LI crown before they have to worry about playing someone else in NYS.
Ummmm...Suffern? Still need to beat Section 8 champ....
Watched the Suffern team give the elite YJ blue team all they could handle at a winter tournament. They actually won the game at the horn, both teams headed off field with game decided, refs add 30 seconds somehow and start game back up for a yj win. Point is the yj team is made of the best player or two from many LI HS teams. The teams that YJ field are vastly superior to your average HS team, so if they had trouble with Suffern, LI school teams may be in for a ride.
No offense but what age and what YJ team?
Lets see, first they easily sent home 2016 blue, the same team every YJ parent on BOTC has boosted about obsessively as the best YJ team ever, they then beat 2015 blue until the ref interjected.
See this is why you get YJ parents to react , a [lacrosse] trying to stir the pot comes in and makes crap up. 2016 blue against Suffern , really ,when and where.
Your the DB and obviously have no idea what your talking about. T3 LI Championships this past Feb. Not stirring pot, reacting to LI HS teams looking past Suffern. Used their very strong performance against YJs two top teams to put it in context. You obviously were not there so you can dismiss yourself from this discussion now.
Suffolk/Nassau teams a little weak this year, except for Manhasset, Mt Sianai who will be favorites upstate.
West Islip, Hauppauge, ESM, Sayville, Farmingdale, dont have the level of talent they had in the past. Will be tough for any of these teams to win upstate.
We'll see! Thats why we play the games. Another thing, please stop with this nonsense of a team that's "scary good," because they have some 9th and 10th grade kids who are talented. There are a TON of kids that are talented in this sport. Varsity teams have 7th graders playing for them. Let's not get carried away here! As much as parents choose not to see, or might be oblivious to reality, this sport can be taught, at a late stage, to high end athletes, plain and simple. Northwestern had a Tawaarton{?} finalist who NEVER played this sport in high school. Their coach stated that with her athletic ability, she recruited her based on that alone, knowing full well that she would be able to be taught the skills needed to play at a high level.Northwestern won a couple of titles with her!
It gets to be a bit of a joke when kids are verbally committing in 9th grade. This is not a knock on the kids, just a bit of a reality check on their parents. As this sport increases in popularity in the inner city, the competition for scholarship will greatly increase. Not a knock, just reality.
Parents, please relax, and enjoy the fact that your daughters are playing a sport they love, and stop with the name-calling, and phony tough guy routine. As hard as it might be to admit it to yourselves, it is not about you! Good luck to all the young ladies playing in the Finals this week. Have a great summer.
It's you who needs the reality check , no offense but inner city kids are not playing this sport and probably never will, the sport is expensive and you need field space are the 2 main reasons.i love you lacrosse experts that come on here and know more than these college lacrosse coaches who have been doing it forever ,
The Northwestern coach you use as an example is one of the earliest recruiters out there.
Suffolk/Nassau teams a little weak this year, except for Manhasset, Mt Sianai who will be favorites upstate.
West Islip, Hauppauge, ESM, Sayville, Farmingdale, dont have the level of talent they had in the past. Will be tough for any of these teams to win upstate.
correction.... I meant that these teams are not as strong as teams from Long Island that went upstate the last couple years..
It's you who needs the reality check , no offense but inner city kids are not playing this sport and probably never will, the sport is expensive and you need field space are the 2 main reasons.i love you lacrosse experts that come on here and know more than these college lacrosse coaches who have been doing it forever ,
The Northwestern coach you use as an example is one of the earliest recruiters out there.
WRONG..... Nyc has a team, not too good yet, but have a team of wealthy girls. Staten Island has a couple teams also.
It's you who needs the reality check , no offense but inner city kids are not playing this sport and probably never will, the sport is expensive and you need field space are the 2 main reasons.i love you lacrosse experts that come on here and know more than these college lacrosse coaches who have been doing it forever ,
The Northwestern coach you use as an example is one of the earliest recruiters out there.
WRONG..... Nyc has a team, not too good yet, but have a team of wealthy girls. Staten Island has a couple teams also.
Hey clueless joe , wow NYC has one whole team, and Statem Island also. That's it kids on Long Island put your sticks away no way to compete w that.
It's you who needs the reality check , no offense but inner city kids are not playing this sport and probably never will, the sport is expensive and you need field space are the 2 main reasons.i love you lacrosse experts that come on here and know more than these college lacrosse coaches who have been doing it forever ,
The Northwestern coach you use as an example is one of the earliest recruiters out there.
Funny you should use KAH as your example because she is also one of the first coaches to put an effort to mine and develops inner city kids, which contradicts your post.
I am writing about a post that implies any girl can pick up a stick and play while in HS.
As you note, there was a player on the field Friday evening which was fortunate to play Lax at a high level (@ a LI HS and College NW) who had not played much in her youth/HS years.
As this is possible, it is far and in-between. Those players are the ones that are just as fortunate in other sports as well. Those are the ones that the Lax coaches had wanted to play all those years. You know that travel Soccer/Volleyball Basketball player that plays Softball in the spring.
The player example you site is/was an exceptional athlete and was one of the kids that could pick up anything and succeed. Please make sure you footnote this before you give every crazy parent a cutout to give their child.
An average/good athlete is at a distinct disadvantage if they had not played lacrosse (or any sport) prior to HS. In many cases that is the difference of the D1 and DIII. Call it Lax iQ call it what ever.
I want each child to strive to be the best, I want each child to know if they work hard good things happen, but I also want the players to know there are those who have been borne with talent and there is nothing you can say or do that will help you compare anything to those players.
Like in Hoops, not everyone can be like Mike (or Lebron Kobie).
I am writing about a post that implies any girl can pick up a stick and play while in HS.
As you note, there was a player on the field Friday evening which was fortunate to play Lax at a high level (@ a LI HS and College NW) who had not played much in her youth/HS years.
As this is possible, it is far and in-between. Those players are the ones that are just as fortunate in other sports as well. Those are the ones that the Lax coaches had wanted to play all those years. You know that travel Soccer/Volleyball Basketball player that plays Softball in the spring.
The player example you site is/was an exceptional athlete and was one of the kids that could pick up anything and succeed. Please make sure you footnote this before you give every crazy parent a cutout to give their child.
An average/good athlete is at a distinct disadvantage if they had not played lacrosse (or any sport) prior to HS. In many cases that is the difference of the D1 and DIII. Call it Lax iQ call it what ever.
I want each child to strive to be the best, I want each child to know if they work hard good things happen, but I also want the players to know there are those who have been borne with talent and there is nothing you can say or do that will help you compare anything to those players.
Like in Hoops, not everyone can be like Mike (or Lebron Kobie).
Sorry, you lost me at "far and in-between."
I am writing about a post that implies any girl can pick up a stick and play while in HS.
As you note, there was a player on the field Friday evening which was fortunate to play Lax at a high level (@ a LI HS and College NW) who had not played much in her youth/HS years.
As this is possible, it is far and in-between. Those players are the ones that are just as fortunate in other sports as well. Those are the ones that the Lax coaches had wanted to play all those years. You know that travel Soccer/Volleyball Basketball player that plays Softball in the spring.
The player example you site is/was an exceptional athlete and was one of the kids that could pick up anything and succeed. Please make sure you footnote this before you give every crazy parent a cutout to give their child.
An average/good athlete is at a distinct disadvantage if they had not played lacrosse (or any sport) prior to HS. In many cases that is the difference of the D1 and DIII. Call it Lax iQ call it what ever.
I want each child to strive to be the best, I want each child to know if they work hard good things happen, but I also want the players to know there are those who have been borne with talent and there is nothing you can say or do that will help you compare anything to those players.
Like in Hoops, not everyone can be like Mike (or Lebron Kobie).
Sorry, you lost me at "far and in-between."
Translation: the poster is saying that while the situation is possble, it is not likely.
I heard a parent of a D1 much-touted lacrosse player tell me the same thing this year. I didn't really buy it and actually found it insulting given the context in which it was said. I should add his child was a standout, three-sport athlete who also played club lacrosse from middle school on.
Funny, but it sounds as if everyone agrees with the original poster.
Let the kids play and be kids. The best kid on our team struggles with friends and is always on a field like its a job. She will get the nice package to a good school but then what? Parents are nuts. As crazy as it sounds I would rather pay more for school and have my kid be happier and better adjusted. My hopes for her is to be more than a HS coach and a topgun/jacket summer coach. It doesn't always have to be northwestern
I am writing about a post that implies any girl can pick up a stick and play while in HS.
As you note, there was a player on the field Friday evening which was fortunate to play Lax at a high level (@ a LI HS and College NW) who had not played much in her youth/HS years.
As this is possible, it is far and in-between. Those players are the ones that are just as fortunate in other sports as well. Those are the ones that the Lax coaches had wanted to play all those years. You know that travel Soccer/Volleyball Basketball player that plays Softball in the spring.
The player example you site is/was an exceptional athlete and was one of the kids that could pick up anything and succeed. Please make sure you footnote this before you give every crazy parent a cutout to give their child.
An average/good athlete is at a distinct disadvantage if they had not played lacrosse (or any sport) prior to HS. In many cases that is the difference of the D1 and DIII. Call it Lax iQ call it what ever.
I want each child to strive to be the best, I want each child to know if they work hard good things happen, but I also want the players to know there are those who have been borne with talent and there is nothing you can say or do that will help you compare anything to those players.
Like in Hoops, not everyone can be like Mike (or Lebron Kobie).
this needs some serious editing to make any sense at all
Let the kids play and be kids. The best kid on our team struggles with friends and is always on a field like its a job. She will get the nice package to a good school but then what? Parents are nuts. As crazy as it sounds I would rather pay more for school and have my kid be happier and better adjusted. My hopes for her is to be more than a HS coach and a topgun/jacket summer coach. It doesn't always have to be northwestern
On the child's happiness I agree, but what if she wants to Teach and be a High School Coach
is that not go enough for you,
or does she have to be a Corporate want to be YJ Coach. It doesn't always have to be CR
St. Anthonys over SHA in CHSAA finals 8-7. Great year in the Catholic league for all. Much more even than in years past.
Watched all the Nassau games today. Congrats to Manhasset, Cold Spring Harbor and Farmingdale. We'll see who they play next by this time tomorrow!
St. Anthonys over SHA in CHSAA finals 8-7. Great year in the Catholic league for all. Much more even than in years past.
Agree it was a great game - a shame they assigned a ref who could barely get up and down the field to a championship game.
Watched all the Nassau games today. Congrats to Manhasset, Cold Spring Harbor and Farmingdale. We'll see who they play next by this time tomorrow!
Watched all 3 games as well.
Manhasset is really good and really fast. They have to be a favorite for states.
Cold Spring Harbor almost gave it away to Oyster Bay. Finally got over the hump.
Farmingdale did a nice job against the backer zone. TW is tough on those kids. Syosset has a lot of young players coming up.
Good luck to all 3 teams in the LI Championships.
Today Suffolk Championships
Mt sinai rolls over SWR , a practice for Mt. Sinai
Sayville even with ESM , Sayville better Defense and goalie, ESM better offense.
Hauppauge over West Islip , Hauuppauge too big and fast for West Islip. West Islip is lucky they are there.
Today Suffolk Championships
Mt sinai rolls over SWR , a practice for Mt. Sinai
Sayville even with ESM , Sayville better Defense and goalie, ESM better offense.
Hauppauge over West Islip , Hauuppauge too big and fast for West Islip. West Islip is lucky they are there.
Mount Sinai lost by 2 to Bayport Bluepoint. Nothing better than seeing Pirecca punch the turf after the game. So angry!
Today Suffolk Championships
Mt sinai rolls over SWR , a practice for Mt. Sinai
Sayville even with ESM , Sayville better Defense and goalie, ESM better offense.
Hauppauge over West Islip , Hauuppauge too big and fast for West Islip. West Islip is lucky they are there.
That's funny. SWR not even in the game. Bayport wins over mt Sinai. Any team can win in playoffs... Let's all stop acting like the results are set in stone.
Bayport 11 Mt Sinai 9 Final!!!!!!
Today Suffolk Championships
Mt sinai rolls over SWR , a practice for Mt. Sinai
Sayville even with ESM , Sayville better Defense and goalie, ESM better offense.
Hauppauge over West Islip , Hauuppauge too big and fast for West Islip. West Islip is lucky they are there.
SWR? Isn't it BBP? Don't think it's going to be a practice for Mt. Sinai.
BBP over Mt. Sinai. 11-9.
Today Suffolk Championships
Mt sinai rolls over SWR , a practice for Mt. Sinai
Sayville even with ESM , Sayville better Defense and goalie, ESM better offense.
Hauppauge over West Islip , Hauuppauge too big and fast for West Islip. West Islip is lucky they are there.
Mount Sinai lost by 2 to Bayport Bluepoint. Nothing better than seeing Pirecca punch the turf after the game. So angry!
Really? Are u that much of a loser that you get your jollies seeing a great hardworking kid upset! What a [lacrosse]!
BBP over Mt. Sinai. 11-9.
Whoever posted "you have to play the games" had it 100% correct. Congratulations to BBP.
Today Suffolk Championships
Mt sinai rolls over SWR , a practice for Mt. Sinai
Sayville even with ESM , Sayville better Defense and goalie, ESM better offense.
Hauppauge over West Islip , Hauuppauge too big and fast for West Islip. West Islip is lucky they are there.
Mount Sinai lost by 2 to Bayport Bluepoint. Nothing better than seeing Pirecca punch the turf after the game. So angry!
Really? Are u that much of a loser that you get your jollies seeing a great hardworking kid upset! What a [lacrosse]!
Reputation is everything.
Congrats to BBP! This loss will be good for Sinai. They appeared to have forgotten that it was possible for them to actually lose a game, and lose gracefully at that. Sad to see a top team unravel emotionally and lash out amongst themselves and against their opponents. Biggest upset of the year in my opinion. Any given Sunday folks!
WI over Hauppauge. Who posted their predictions and got every one wrong???
WI over Hauppauge. Who posted their predictions and got every one wrong???
His name is "anonymous". Very popular on this thread.
Today Suffolk Championships
Mt sinai rolls over SWR , a practice for Mt. Sinai
Sayville even with ESM , Sayville better Defense and goalie, ESM better offense.
Hauppauge over West Islip , Hauuppauge too big and fast for West Islip. West Islip is lucky they are there.
Mount Sinai lost by 2 to Bayport Bluepoint. Nothing better than seeing Pirecca punch the turf after the game. So angry!
Really? Are u that much of a loser that you get your jollies seeing a great hardworking kid upset! What a [lacrosse]!
Reputation is everything.
You are still a [lacrosse]!!!!!!!!
Hey BBP. Act like you have won before you classless losers..... Oh wait, you never have. Around the county it's known your nasty foul mouthed players whose parents need a smack and some time in the corner. Be proud bums.
Hey BBP. Act like you have won before you classless losers..... Oh wait, you never have. Around the county it's known your nasty foul mouthed players whose parents need a smack and some time in the corner. Be proud bums.
Mount Sinai, is that you?
Today Suffolk Championships
Mt sinai rolls over SWR , a practice for Mt. Sinai
Sayville even with ESM , Sayville better Defense and goalie, ESM better offense.
Hauppauge over West Islip , Hauuppauge too big and fast for West Islip. West Islip is lucky they are there.
Mount Sinai lost by 2 to Bayport Bluepoint. Nothing better than seeing Pirecca punch the turf after the game. So angry!
Are you really this much of a [lacrosse] , so your team got lucky , everyone knows it. What a bunch of white trash loser fans BBP has .
Classless? Hello Pot? This is the Kettle......
Hey BBP. Act like you have won before you classless losers..... Oh wait, you never have. Around the county it's known your nasty foul mouthed players whose parents need a smack and some time in the corner. Be proud bums.
Not from Sinai or BBP, but saw the game while actually waiting for next game. I saw a nasty side of mt. Sinai crowd. Was more in that section I guess. As far as the reaction, you would have been just as happy to win. The reaction to the loss was more troubling, first evident in the latter part of the game when the girls got physically out of hand, wild swings etc.... Then the girls were not emotionally prepared for a tough game much less a loss, I guess the parents were prepared either. A lot of anger, foul language and tears. Never saw so many girls breakdown like that
Yes it is final , Sayville goalie awesome, news12 had highlights of there goalie, Molly the goalie..... MVP
Sorry ESM , was your turn last year. Sayville turn this year...
GO Sayville, Good Luck Sunday vs Nassau
Hey BBP. Act like you have won before you classless losers..... Oh wait, you never have. Around the county it's known your nasty foul mouthed players whose parents need a smack and some time in the corner. Be proud bums.
Ok Mt sinai parent, this thread is going to be lit up with Mt Sinai people the next couple of days. there is no crying in lacrosse...
Yes it is final , Sayville goalie awesome, news12 had highlights of there goalie, Molly the goalie..... MVP
Sorry ESM , was your turn last year. Sayville turn this year...
GO Sayville, Good Luck Sunday vs Nassau
Just saw highlights on News12, Sayville goalie was great. congrats sayville...
BBP white trash town? That's funny, much of the town is made up of massive multi million dollar mansions. Don't live there but wish I did!
Mt. Sinai deserved to lose. Couldn't be happier. Congrates seniors As for ESM congrates to all the seniors. Goalie did an amazing job. Offense couldn't finish. Defense was outstanding WI congrates on winning.., wasn't that big if a shock though. Hauppouge good luck to all the seniors. Next year they'll be a big force too.
Can someone please pist location and times of all upcoming games? Thank you
Last year in the County finals Mt. Sinai Coach Bert took a time out against Shoreham with two minutes left and a 3 goal lead in order to rub Shorehams nose in the loss,,,, along with Fat mouth Pete (I will take your son in my district) Mitchell shooting his fat mouth off, needless to say just another classless move by the Mustangs coaching staff.
This is Karma folks,,,, Mt Sinai shows its lack of class in winning and losing.
Bert will never have the class of Vlahakas who was no genius but built a program at Shoreham that was a Dynasty in the girls game.
Congrats to BBP,,,,, the class of the League this year,,,, us folks at Shoreham congratulate you for you sportsmanship and wish you well in the rest of your season.
Hey BBP. Act like you have won before you classless losers..... Oh wait, you never have. Around the county it's known your nasty foul mouthed players whose parents need a smack and some time in the corner. Be proud bums.
Not from Sinai or BBP, but saw the game while actually waiting for next game. I saw a nasty side of mt. Sinai crowd. Was more in that section I guess. As far as the reaction, you would have been just as happy to win. The reaction to the loss was more troubling, first evident in the latter part of the game when the girls got physically out of hand, wild swings etc.... Then the girls were not emotionally prepared for a tough game much less a loss, I guess the parents were prepared either. A lot of anger, foul language and tears. Never saw so many girls breakdown like that
The reaction to adversity can be directly attributed to the coaching and parenting of the players. When you are told you are the best and no one can beat you, and then someone begins to beat you, you do not know how to respond. The emotional breakdown is the realization that, on this day at least, you are not the best.
For girls coming back to Mt Sinai next year can look to this game as a great learning experience. BPP was not supposed to win and played a great game. It is what makes sports great.
BBP white trash town? That's funny, much of the town is made up of massive multi million dollar mansions. Don't live there but wish I did!
Much of the town and massive mansions tells me you have not been to BBP much . As for the white trash moniker you can have all the money in the world and still be trash.For a parent to come on here and name a young girl and say they took pleasure in that kids heartache was the shining example of how they behaved at the game yesterday.
Hey BBP. Act like you have won before you classless losers..... Oh wait, you never have. Around the county it's known your nasty foul mouthed players whose parents need a smack and some time in the corner. Be proud bums.
Not from Sinai or BBP, but saw the game while actually waiting for next game. I saw a nasty side of mt. Sinai crowd. Was more in that section I guess. As far as the reaction, you would have been just as happy to win. The reaction to the loss was more troubling, first evident in the latter part of the game when the girls got physically out of hand, wild swings etc.... Then the girls were not emotionally prepared for a tough game much less a loss, I guess the parents were prepared either. A lot of anger, foul language and tears. Never saw so many girls breakdown like that
The reaction to adversity can be directly attributed to the coaching and parenting of the players. When you are told you are the best and no one can beat you, and then someone begins to beat you, you do not know how to respond. The emotional breakdown is the realization that, on this day at least, you are not the best.
For girls coming back to Mt Sinai next year can look to this game as a great learning experience. BPP was not supposed to win and played a great game. It is what makes sports great.
Exactly! All of the Long Island Lacrosse community is happy Mt.Insane lost, not for the kids sakes but as far as the parents and the coach we are all thrilled. Hopefully lessoned learned by you folks as far as the girls keep your heads up.
It seems that no can stomach or support any success if it has ties to the Yellow Jackets, coaches included. They are just tough to root for.
Last year in the County finals Mt. Sinai Coach Bert took a time out against Shoreham with two minutes left and a 3 goal lead in order to rub Shorehams nose in the loss,,,, along with Fat mouth Pete (I will take your son in my district) Mitchell shooting his fat mouth off, needless to say just another classless move by the Mustangs coaching staff.
This is Karma folks,,,, Mt Sinai shows its lack of class in winning and losing.
Bert will never have the class of Vlahakas who was no genius but built a program at Shoreham that was a Dynasty in the girls game.
Congrats to BBP,,,,, the class of the League this year,,,, us folks at Shoreham congratulate you for you sportsmanship and wish you well in the rest of your season.
Well here it is the morning after and I'm still smiling ear to ear. It couldn't have happened to anyone better - Bombastic Bert! The loud mouthed, ego maniacal, constantly complaining, screaming jerk!
The "winner" shows his true colors...LOSER!
Last year in the County finals Mt. Sinai Coach Bert took a time out against Shoreham with two minutes left and a 3 goal lead in order to rub Shorehams nose in the loss,,,, along with Fat mouth Pete (I will take your son in my district) Mitchell shooting his fat mouth off, needless to say just another classless move by the Mustangs coaching staff.
This is Karma folks,,,, Mt Sinai shows its lack of class in winning and losing.
Bert will never have the class of Vlahakas who was no genius but built a program at Shoreham that was a Dynasty in the girls game.
Congrats to BBP,,,,, the class of the League this year,,,, us folks at Shoreham congratulate you for you sportsmanship and wish you well in the rest of your season.
After following the Shoreham thread this season, not sure I want any congratulations from you guys. The way you act in that town, and publicly aired how absolutely dysfunctional the adults in your town are, no thanks. As for the dynasty thing please get over yourselves. You are in the class that Mt. Sinai is in except you have shown it over an entire season, and they just now have shown their true colors.
Can someone please pist location and times of all upcoming games? Thank you
From Section XI website:
Girls' Lacrosse - Jeremy Thode
See Brackets for Section XI Tournament
6/1 - Long Island Championship at Dowling Sports Complex
Class C: Bayport-Blue Point vs. Cold Spring Harbor, 2:30 pm*
Class B: Sayville vs. Manhasset, 4:30 pm*
Class A: West Islip vs. Farmingdale, 7 pm*
6/6-7 - NYSPHSAA Championship, SUNY Cortland (Sec III)
BBP white trash town? That's funny, much of the town is made up of massive multi million dollar mansions. Don't live there but wish I did!
Much of the town and massive mansions tells me you have not been to BBP much . As for the white trash moniker you can have all the money in the world and still be trash.For a parent to come on here and name a young girl and say they took pleasure in that kids heartache was the shining example of how they behaved at the game yesterday.
I truly believe that the post about the young lady was not from a BBP parent, they were too busy cheering on their girls to notice someone punching the ground immediately after the game ended. Just seems a little too personal. I can tell you I did feel bad for them, knowing how hard they have worked. I will tell you that quite a few people not from BBP were quite happy with the outcome. A BBP parent.
BBP white trash town? That's funny, much of the town is made up of massive multi million dollar mansions. Don't live there but wish I did!
Much of the town and massive mansions tells me you have not been to BBP much . As for the white trash moniker you can have all the money in the world and still be trash.For a parent to come on here and name a young girl and say they took pleasure in that kids heartache was the shining example of how they behaved at the game yesterday.
I truly believe that the post about the young lady was not from a BBP parent, they were too busy cheering on their girls to notice someone punching the ground immediately after the game ended. Just seems a little too personal. I can tell you I did feel bad for them, knowing how hard they have worked. I will tell you that quite a few people not from BBP were quite happy with the outcome. A BBP parent.
The problem starts at the top. When players are taught to game the system, to constantly bend and break rules and push limits this is what happens. When bad behavior is encouraged that helps the problem. Unfortunately the girls would never taught to win with grace so they don't know how to lose with grace.
BBP white trash town? That's funny, much of the town is made up of massive multi million dollar mansions. Don't live there but wish I did!
Much of the town and massive mansions tells me you have not been to BBP much . As for the white trash moniker you can have all the money in the world and still be trash.For a parent to come on here and name a young girl and say they took pleasure in that kids heartache was the shining example of how they behaved at the game yesterday.
I truly believe that the post about the young lady was not from a BBP parent, they were too busy cheering on their girls to notice someone punching the ground immediately after the game ended. Just seems a little too personal. I can tell you I did feel bad for them, knowing how hard they have worked. I will tell you that quite a few people not from BBP were quite happy with the outcome. A BBP parent.
Not a BBP or Mount Sinai parent but was there just to watch , happened to sit on BBP side, I have no doubt the post was from a BBP parent as one of your BBP parents were berating the kid during the game. If that parent happens to be on this site , get a life ,the kid you were going after is possibly the best player in Suffolk. Your BBP team had an amazing game , no reason to go after kids on the other team and knowing that kids parents I am guessing you would not have pulled that non sense within earshot of them.
Last year in the County finals Mt. Sinai Coach Bert took a time out against Shoreham with two minutes left and a 3 goal lead in order to rub Shorehams nose in the loss,,,, along with Fat mouth Pete (I will take your son in my district) Mitchell shooting his fat mouth off, needless to say just another classless move by the Mustangs coaching staff.
This is Karma folks,,,, Mt Sinai shows its lack of class in winning and losing.
Bert will never have the class of Vlahakas who was no genius but built a program at Shoreham that was a Dynasty in the girls game.
Congrats to BBP,,,,, the class of the League this year,,,, us folks at Shoreham congratulate you for you sportsmanship and wish you well in the rest of your season.
After following the Shoreham thread this season, not sure I want any congratulations from you guys. The way you act in that town, and publicly aired how absolutely dysfunctional the adults in your town are, no thanks. As for the dynasty thing please get over yourselves. You are in the class that Mt. Sinai is in except you have shown it over an entire season, and they just now have shown their true colors.
The Shoreham poster who wrote those childish ridiculous words certainly does not reflect the thoughts of the majority of Shoreham parents. We have had the chance over the years to get to know many of the Mt Sinai and BBP kids and families and while we are happy for the winners we are sad for the losers. Thats called sportsmanship. Congrats and best of luck moving forward to BBP. Mt Sinai, you have some great kids and staff and should be proud of your season.
Signed, A Shoreham parent
Last year in the County finals Mt. Sinai Coach Bert took a time out against Shoreham with two minutes left and a 3 goal lead in order to rub Shorehams nose in the loss,,,, along with Fat mouth Pete (I will take your son in my district) Mitchell shooting his fat mouth off, needless to say just another classless move by the Mustangs coaching staff.
This is Karma folks,,,, Mt Sinai shows its lack of class in winning and losing.
Bert will never have the class of Vlahakas who was no genius but built a program at Shoreham that was a Dynasty in the girls game.
Congrats to BBP,,,,, the class of the League this year,,,, us folks at Shoreham congratulate you for you sportsmanship and wish you well in the rest of your season.
2 minutes wouldn't even be that bad… anything can happen then.
I was at that game, there was under a minute left… some where in the :50 range.
[quote=Anonymous]Hey BBP. Act like you have won before you classless losers..... Oh wait, you never have. Around the county it's known your nasty foul mouthed players whose parents need a smack and some time in the corner. Be proud bums.
Not from Sinai or BBP, but saw the game while actually waiting for next game. I saw a nasty side of mt. Sinai crowd. Was more in that section I guess. As far as the reaction, you would have been just as happy to win. The reaction to the loss was more troubling, first evident in the latter part of the game when the girls got physically out of hand, wild swings etc.... Then the girls were not emotionally prepared for a tough game much less a loss, I guess the parents were prepared either. A lot of anger, foul language and tears. Never saw so many girls breakdown like that
The reaction to adversity can be directly attributed to the coaching and parenting of the players. When you are told you are the best and no one can beat you, and then someone begins to beat you, you do not know how to respond. The emotional breakdown is the realization that, on this day at least, you are not the best.
For girls coming back to Mt Sinai next year can look to this game as a great learning experience. BPP was not supposed to win and played a great game. It is what makes sports great.[/quote
As a Mt Sinai parent, I can say WE couldn't be prouder of a group of young ladies! They have been the building blocks and role models for a whole program and community. They have had more success than any Mt.Sinai program! As far as the game, our girls never gave up and fought to the end! As for all you haters, keep it coming. It is very flattering to read all the posts. It just goes to show you the deep rooted jealousy that obviously keeps you up at night. So just so you know, no matter how many games we lose (which has been 1 in 39 games plus countless indoor games and tournaments) we will always be proud of our girls because wins and losses isn't what makes these girls great. It is their work ethic and passion for the game that makes them champions. As for the Bayport girls, they played their best game. they should be applauded for their effort.
Finally for the pathetic little weasel who felt compelled to write how happy he was to see a GREAT young ladies hard ache, I feel bad for you if that is the highlight of your life! It really must have been even more of a RUSH to single her out anonymously in a public forum. If you are going to name names you should at least leave yours! COWARD!!!!
Easy now those girls played there tails offs to win that game, not luck hard work. and about the fans every town has a few of them so ease off
all games are at Dowling campus.
Class C: Bayport-Blue Point vs. Cold Spring Harbor, 2:30 pm*
Class B: Sayville vs. Manhasset, 4:30 pm*
Class A: West Islip vs. Farmingdale, 7 pm*
Easy now those girls played there tails offs to win that game, not luck hard work. and about the fans every town has a few of them so ease off
Yes absolutely, every town has a few, MT Sinai has most....
I'm watching the replay of mt sinai abd bayport on msf varsity online, nice mouths from mt sinai parents. who is the jerk that kept yelling you have to be kidding me about 20 times.... LOL
did mt sinai make a save in the 2nd half.. How do you blow a lead like that? I guess there not what they think they are...
Even the Hauppauge coach seemed to lose her composure, as she did nothing as her team floundered on the field, except scream at the refs. Then a yellow card for her to finish the game. Congrats to West Islip for winning the right way. Coaches, please let the girls play decide the outcome, and conduct yourselves with class as adults. This goes for you parents, as well!
The Shoreham poster who wrote those childish ridiculous words certainly does not reflect the thoughts of the majority of Shoreham parents. We have had the chance over the years to get to know many of the Mt Sinai and BBP kids and families and while we are happy for the winners we are sad for the losers. Thats called sportsmanship. Congrats and best of luck moving forward to BBP. Mt Sinai, you have some great kids and staff and should be proud of your season.
Signed, A Shoreham parent
I do feel sorry for parents like yourself over in Shoreham, unfortunately the perception is that the town lacrosse parents are filled with venom. Best wishes in re-establishing your town reputation. Unfortunate how horrible that the thread made you all look. There are even club parents from Maryland and Jersey asking if that stuff in the thread was real.
did mt sinai make a save in the 2nd half.. How do you blow a lead like that? I guess there not what they think they are...
2 yellow cards in the last 6 min
It is amazing how bad so many girls lax ref's are!!!Who is monitoring these refs? No one!This is Unfair for the girls that play lax. As a parent it is hard to sit back and watch some of the terrible calls!! There is such a discrepancy between the specifics of the way each ref calls games that it needs to be monitored to a board of refs that can pick out the bad refs!!! Some ref go as far as siding with one team. How fair is this.I have nothing to do with these play off games.
And there you have it...pretty sure there no delicate flowers on any lacrosse teams on LI. Players say stuff. Some times it gets into the other teams heads. Pretty much a part of the game in both the women's and the men's games that I have seen. Hoping the players that have college commitments coaches did not witness the poor display of (some) Mt. Sinai families. One well known players dad appeared to have been negatively hand gesturing his own teams coaching staff ???? Honestly did not see BBP fans get upset until their kids were getting hacked on by a frustrated Mt. Sinai.
It is amazing how bad so many girls lax ref's are!!!Who is monitoring these refs? No one!This is Unfair for the girls that play lax. As a parent it is hard to sit back and watch some of the terrible calls!! There is such a discrepancy between the specifics of the way each ref calls games that it needs to be monitored to a board of refs that can pick out the bad refs!!! Some ref go as far as siding with one team. How fair is this.I have nothing to do with these play off games.
These are the refs that the coaches chose. If you are not pleased with these refs have your coaches choose different ones.
Or start your own officials organization and train them to your standards.
It is amazing how bad so many girls lax ref's are!!!Who is monitoring these refs? No one!This is Unfair for the girls that play lax. As a parent it is hard to sit back and watch some of the terrible calls!! There is such a discrepancy between the specifics of the way each ref calls games that it needs to be monitored to a board of refs that can pick out the bad refs!!! Some ref go as far as siding with one team. How fair is this.I have nothing to do with these play off games.
Let me guess, you must be from Hauppauge, ESM or Mt. Sinai.
I'm watching the replay of mt sinai abd bayport on msf varsity online, nice mouths from mt sinai parents. who is the jerk that kept yelling you have to be kidding me about 20 times.... LOL
I was at the game but watched the MSG Varsity replay. Caught the spot you reference with the "you have to be kidding me". I didn't see the play well from my angle live but the video replay indicates it was the proper call.
Mt Sinai winning streak was impressive. But how does it compare to McDonogh's
111-0 record? Not even in the same discussion.
Mt. Sinai is a great team carried by a girl with exceptional talent, who were the kings of class C Hs lax, they are better than most all class B and C LI teams but are merely among the best teams on LI. There impressive record was against lower division teams and hard to justify comparing them above other LI teams and trying to put them on the level with McDonough is a huge stretch. McDonough has always been there and will always likely be a top team in nation, we are already watching the beginging of the slide for Mt Sinai.
Mt Sinai winning streak was impressive. But how does it compare to McDonogh's
111-0 record? Not even in the same discussion.
McDonogh is a private school that recruits and gives scholarships to play. Can't compare to public schools. This is an old conversation.
[quote=Anonymous]Hey BBP. Act like you have won before you classless losers..... Oh wait, you never have. Around the county it's known your nasty foul mouthed players whose parents need a smack and some time in the corner. Be proud bums.
Not from Sinai or BBP, but saw the game while actually waiting for next game. I saw a nasty side of mt. Sinai crowd. Was more in that section I guess. As far as the reaction, you would have been just as happy to win. The reaction to the loss was more troubling, first evident in the latter part of the game when the girls got physically out of hand, wild swings etc.... Then the girls were not emotionally prepared for a tough game much less a loss, I guess the parents were prepared either. A lot of anger, foul language and tears. Never saw so many girls breakdown like that
The reaction to adversity can be directly attributed to the coaching and parenting of the players. When you are told you are the best and no one can beat you, and then someone begins to beat you, you do not know how to respond. The emotional breakdown is the realization that, on this day at least, you are not the best.
For girls coming back to Mt Sinai next year can look to this game as a great learning experience. BPP was not supposed to win and played a great game. It is what makes sports great.[/quote
As a Mt Sinai parent, I can say WE couldn't be prouder of a group of young ladies! They have been the building blocks and role models for a whole program and community. They have had more success than any Mt.Sinai program! As far as the game, our girls never gave up and fought to the end! As for all you haters, keep it coming. It is very flattering to read all the posts. It just goes to show you the deep rooted jealousy that obviously keeps you up at night. So just so you know, no matter how many games we lose (which has been 1 in 39 games plus countless indoor games and tournaments) we will always be proud of our girls because wins and losses isn't what makes these girls great. It is their work ethic and passion for the game that makes them champions. As for the Bayport girls, they played their best game. they should be applauded for their effort.
Finally for the pathetic little weasel who felt compelled to write how happy he was to see a GREAT young ladies hard ache, I feel bad for you if that is the highlight of your life! It really must have been even more of a RUSH to single her out anonymously in a public forum. If you are going to name names you should at least leave yours! COWARD!!!!
Mt Sinai girls get there bad attitudes from there parents... The apple doesnt fall far from the tree....Last year at the state championships They were loud and obnoxious, out of control.. Other teams were amazed and shaking there heads. people would change there seats to get away from them... I was embarrassed to say that I was from Long Island,
I'm watching the replay of mt sinai abd bayport on msf varsity online, nice mouths from mt sinai parents. who is the jerk that kept yelling you have to be kidding me about 20 times.... LOL
I was at the game but watched the MSG Varsity replay. Caught the spot you reference with the "you have to be kidding me". I didn't see the play well from my angle live but the video replay indicates it was the proper call.
How about when the same idiot in the stands cursed at the refs..... thats class
It is amazing how bad so many girls lax ref's are!!!Who is monitoring these refs? No one!This is Unfair for the girls that play lax. As a parent it is hard to sit back and watch some of the terrible calls!! There is such a discrepancy between the specifics of the way each ref calls games that it needs to be monitored to a board of refs that can pick out the bad refs!!! Some ref go as far as siding with one team. How fair is this.I have nothing to do with these play off games.
Let me guess, you must be from Hauppauge, ESM or Mt. Sinai.
And West Islip, Sayville, Bayport thought they were great.
It balances out.
It is amazing how bad so many girls lax ref's are!!!Who is monitoring these refs? No one!This is Unfair for the girls that play lax. As a parent it is hard to sit back and watch some of the terrible calls!! There is such a discrepancy between the specifics of the way each ref calls games that it needs to be monitored to a board of refs that can pick out the bad refs!!! Some ref go as far as siding with one team. How fair is this.I have nothing to do with these play off games.
Let me guess, you must be from Hauppauge, ESM or Mt. Sinai.
And West Islip, Sayville, Bayport thought they were great.
It balances out.
Turns out not only did they think it, they were great, and better than the opponents on game day.
I'm watching the replay of mt sinai abd bayport on msf varsity online, nice mouths from mt sinai parents. who is the jerk that kept yelling you have to be kidding me about 20 times.... LOL
I was at the game but watched the MSG Varsity replay. Caught the spot you reference with the "you have to be kidding me". I didn't see the play well from my angle live but the video replay indicates it was the proper call.
How about when the same idiot in the stands cursed at the refs..... thats class
Since we are criticizing fan behavior, I would like to nominate Huntingtons Ricola guy as most annoying fan of the year. Dude you are embarrassing yourself and I'm sure your daughter must be mortified. Sit down and watch the game.
Did anyone watch the last two goals scored by mt Sinai both girls went to their stick and tightened their pockets on mt Sinai's 8th goal when they had to drop their sticks watch what the girl at midfield does after she drops her stick
Did anyone watch the last two goals scored by mt Sinai both girls went to their stick and tightened their pockets on mt Sinai's 8th goal when they had to drop their sticks watch what the girl at midfield does after she drops her stick
I also noticed that in multiple games when they have the lead and an 8m shot, the girl taking the shot suddenly has to tie her shoes while the clock is running. They also move after the whistle to gain advantage. They also ignore the restraining line completely when riding and will go over the line by 7-10 yards. Do you think this is coincidence or coaching to "bend" the rules?
I'm surprised no one has metioned Gary Gait's comment to the Mt. Sinai coach when they were upstate to play Christian Brothers. I've heard it from three different sources/school districts and the gist was consistent: "What are you doing?" Not said in a flattering way about how he ran his game, ran the score, and kept the starters in while doing so.
Did anyone watch the last two goals scored by mt Sinai both girls went to their stick and tightened their pockets on mt Sinai's 8th goal when they had to drop their sticks watch what the girl at midfield does after she drops her stick
I also noticed that in multiple games when they have the lead and an 8m shot, the girl taking the shot suddenly has to tie her shoes while the clock is running. They also move after the whistle to gain advantage. They also ignore the restraining line completely when riding and will go over the line by 7-10 yards. Do you think this is coincidence or coaching to "bend" the rules?
How many have ties to yellow jackets? they are all taught to play overlay aggressive and move after the whistle. Lacrosse should go the way of basketball, 5 fouls and your gone. Would clear out the YJ players pretty quick in most games
Amen to the five personal fouls = you're out. That would really clean up the dirty tricks, IMO.
Did anyone watch the last two goals scored by mt Sinai both girls went to their stick and tightened their pockets on mt Sinai's 8th goal when they had to drop their sticks watch what the girl at midfield does after she drops her stick
I also noticed that in multiple games when they have the lead and an 8m shot, the girl taking the shot suddenly has to tie her shoes while the clock is running. They also move after the whistle to gain advantage. They also ignore the restraining line completely when riding and will go over the line by 7-10 yards. Do you think this is coincidence or coaching to "bend" the rules?
How many have ties to yellow jackets? they are all taught to play overlay aggressive and move after the whistle. Lacrosse should go the way of basketball, 5 fouls and your gone. Would clear out the YJ players pretty quick in most games
Yes. And all those cheating YJ players are really struggling at the next level. You people are pathetic!!!!
I'm surprised no one has metioned Gary Gait's comment to the Mt. Sinai coach when they were upstate to play Christian Brothers. I've heard it from three different sources/school districts and the gist was consistent: "What are you doing?" Not said in a flattering way about how he ran his game, ran the score, and kept the starters in while doing so.
Yes. I am sure you heard that from 3 different school districts, because they all drove 6 Hrs to Syracuse to see a meaningless HS lax game???? Ran up the score? Mt sinai didn't shoot for the last 6 or 7 min of the game. Where do u get this BS from? And who cares anyway??
Did anyone watch the last two goals scored by mt Sinai both girls went to their stick and tightened their pockets on mt Sinai's 8th goal when they had to drop their sticks watch what the girl at midfield does after she drops her stick
I also noticed that in multiple games when they have the lead and an 8m shot, the girl taking the shot suddenly has to tie her shoes while the clock is running. They also move after the whistle to gain advantage. They also ignore the restraining line completely when riding and will go over the line by 7-10 yards. Do you think this is coincidence or coaching to "bend" the rules?
How many have ties to yellow jackets? they are all taught to play overlay aggressive and move after the whistle. Lacrosse should go the way of basketball, 5 fouls and your gone. Would clear out the YJ players pretty quick in most games
Tightening your stick after a goal shoul be an automatic red card it was very clear what they did The video dosent lie
They should have to drop there stick immediately after scoring like in college, and every goal scorers stick should be checked. If a player is caught by a ref altering a stick after the stick check the stick should be removed from the game. As far as the she tying goes, that girl ticked off a full minute off the clock, and she not only tied her shoe, she first untied it, but thats on the ref as soon as she untied the shoe she should have been green carded and made to leave the field of play until the equipment was fixed. I know she was going to have an 8 meter but another girl should have been awarded the shot in her place. Besides, I bet they wished they had that minute back at the end of the game. Thats the Creator making everything even again
Amen to the five personal fouls = you're out. That would really clean up the dirty tricks, IMO.
and alot less whistles.
Amen to the five personal fouls = you're out. That would really clean up the dirty tricks, IMO.
and alot less whistles.
My son, no girls lax fan, just showed me a tweet: Girls lacrosse = freeze tag. LOL He has a point.
Did anyone watch the last two goals scored by mt Sinai both girls went to their stick and tightened their pockets on mt Sinai's 8th goal when they had to drop their sticks watch what the girl at midfield does after she drops her stick
I also noticed that in multiple games when they have the lead and an 8m shot, the girl taking the shot suddenly has to tie her shoes while the clock is running. They also move after the whistle to gain advantage. They also ignore the restraining line completely when riding and will go over the line by 7-10 yards. Do you think this is coincidence or coaching to "bend" the rules?
How many have ties to yellow jackets? they are all taught to play overlay aggressive and move after the whistle. Lacrosse should go the way of basketball, 5 fouls and your gone. Would clear out the YJ players pretty quick in most games
Tightening your stick after a goal shoul be an automatic red card it was very clear what they did The video dosent lie
who cares what they do the season is over for them they lost !!
I really think you people are crazy These are kids that gave it a 100 percent and came up short this game. So maybe they were dramatic after loosing but I could sware I have seen grown men (prof. Athletes) cry after loosing a big game. And to the one judging the parents parenting who made you the almighty one. Have 4 kids and have been through all of this too many times to count and for u to have the balls is amazing look in the mirror judging kids you don't even know. Karma will smack u in the face
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way better than your daughter MTt. Sinai might play dirty but so does bayport so does shoreham so does any other team. its part of the game. if you dont like it go tell your therapist and stop picking on some the best players in the country.
Mt Sinai players knowingly cheat to gain an advantage. Feet over the line on 8 meter shots, feet over the line on draws, creeping when they think the ref isn't looking,etc.
And when they are caught loud mouthed coach Al screams at the officials. He should only know what the other coaches say about him and his tactics.
Did anyone watch the last two goals scored by mt Sinai both girls went to their stick and tightened their pockets on mt Sinai's 8th goal when they had to drop their sticks watch what the girl at midfield does after she drops her stick
I also noticed that in multiple games when they have the lead and an 8m shot, the girl taking the shot suddenly has to tie her shoes while the clock is running. They also move after the whistle to gain advantage. They also ignore the restraining line completely when riding and will go over the line by 7-10 yards. Do you think this is coincidence or coaching to "bend" the rules?
How many have ties to yellow jackets? they are all taught to play overlay aggressive and move after the whistle. Lacrosse should go the way of basketball, 5 fouls and your gone. Would clear out the YJ players pretty quick in most games
That's why many of them YJ get verbal commits in 9th Grade, LOSER!
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way better than your daughter MTt. Sinai might play dirty but so does bayport so does shoreham so does any other team. its part of the game. if you dont like it go tell your therapist and stop picking on some the best players in the country.
This quote is a stunning example of the culture in Mt. Sinai. It's one thing for a girl to maybe sneak a step after the whistle, It's another when they are taught to do it as policy for a program. That goal that was shown on M.S.G. is a perfect example of Mt. Sinai lacrosse, she knew her stick was illegal and didn't even celebrate with her team after an important goal, she immediately turned her back to the ref and started to tighten the strings while walking up field. The stick was so bad that she walked from the goal to mid field, all the way, fixing her stick. thats cheap and dirty just like Al. My daughter, just like everyone else, plays with and against some of the best athletes in the game, and no team, not North Port, Manhasset, Garden City, St Anthony's, no team is as blatantly dirty, and taught to "bend the rules as Mt Sinai". Al bar alone is a disgrace and shouldn't be allowed to lead girls with such talent.
Ok, spending time venting over loss is over, it is time to move forward. Good luck to WI, Sayville and Bayport representing suffolk's best today!
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way better than your daughter MTt. Sinai might play dirty but so does bayport so does shoreham so does any other team. its part of the game. if you dont like it go tell your therapist and stop picking on some the best players in the country.
This quote is a stunning example of the culture in Mt. Sinai. It's one thing for a girl to maybe sneak a step after the whistle, It's another when they are taught to do it as policy for a program. That goal that was shown on M.S.G. is a perfect example of Mt. Sinai lacrosse, she knew her stick was illegal and didn't even celebrate with her team after an important goal, she immediately turned her back to the ref and started to tighten the strings while walking up field. The stick was so bad that she walked from the goal to mid field, all the way, fixing her stick. thats cheap and dirty just like Al. My daughter, just like everyone else, plays with and against some of the best athletes in the game, and no team, not North Port, Manhasset, Garden City, St Anthony's, no team is as blatantly dirty, and taught to "bend the rules as Mt Sinai". Al bar alone is a disgrace and shouldn't be allowed to lead girls with such talent.
This post is ridiculous. I am a Shoreham parent who has no love lost for Mt Sinai. Our rivalry is heated and very competitive. With that said I know many of the parents and players and they are great people. Speaking of their coach Al. He is loud and often times may rub some the wrong way BUT he prepares his team well and puts so much time and effort into the kids that it is commendable. I think his players are aggressive and tough. I do not think they are dirty. We have been accused of the same tactics and our teams are not dirty. The accusations come when a program wins.
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way better than your daughter MTt. Sinai might play dirty but so does bayport so does shoreham so does any other team. its part of the game. if you dont like it go tell your therapist and stop picking on some the best players in the country.
This quote is a stunning example of the culture in Mt. Sinai. It's one thing for a girl to maybe sneak a step after the whistle, It's another when they are taught to do it as policy for a program. That goal that was shown on M.S.G. is a perfect example of Mt. Sinai lacrosse, she knew her stick was illegal and didn't even celebrate with her team after an important goal, she immediately turned her back to the ref and started to tighten the strings while walking up field. The stick was so bad that she walked from the goal to mid field, all the way, fixing her stick. thats cheap and dirty just like Al. My daughter, just like everyone else, plays with and against some of the best athletes in the game, and no team, not North Port, Manhasset, Garden City, St Anthony's, no team is as blatantly dirty, and taught to "bend the rules as Mt Sinai". Al bar alone is a disgrace and shouldn't be allowed to lead girls with such talent.
is a great man. He is by far not the reason that the girls play overly aggressive and or cheat. I blame their parents. I have sat on the sidelines at YJ games and listened to these parents direct their children to do it not to do what the coach says. My daughter has played for Al and he teaches them nothing but to respect and love the game. It is not his philosophy to lie, cheat or beat up on anyone he is only a puppet in a program full of puppet masters. I'm sure the parents at Mt Sinai are probably blaming him for the loss why blame their precious little girls for being out played!!!
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way better than your daughter MTt. Sinai might play dirty but so does bayport so does shoreham so does any other team. its part of the game. if you dont like it go tell your therapist and stop picking on some the best players in the country.
This quote is a stunning example of the culture in Mt. Sinai. It's one thing for a girl to maybe sneak a step after the whistle, It's another when they are taught to do it as policy for a program. That goal that was shown on M.S.G. is a perfect example of Mt. Sinai lacrosse, she knew her stick was illegal and didn't even celebrate with her team after an important goal, she immediately turned her back to the ref and started to tighten the strings while walking up field. The stick was so bad that she walked from the goal to mid field, all the way, fixing her stick. thats cheap and dirty just like Al. My daughter, just like everyone else, plays with and against some of the best athletes in the game, and no team, not North Port, Manhasset, Garden City, St Anthony's, no team is as blatantly dirty, and taught to "bend the rules as Mt Sinai". Al bar alone is a disgrace and shouldn't be allowed to lead girls with such talent.
This post is ridiculous. I am a Shoreham parent who has no love lost for Mt Sinai. Our rivalry is heated and very competitive. With that said I know many of the parents and players and they are great people. Speaking of their coach Al. He is loud and often times may rub some the wrong way BUT he prepares his team well and puts so much time and effort into the kids that it is commendable. I think his players are aggressive and tough. I do not think they are dirty. We have been accused of the same tactics and our teams are not dirty. The accusations come when a program wins.
Manhasset , Garden City and St. Anthony's win without that reputation. It does not surprise me that S.W.R. parents run to the defense of Mt. Sinai, Birds of a feather as they say. If you mean Loud Al prepares his kids by telling them to bend the rules until your caught than I agree. there is a slim line between aggressive play and cheating as policy, and Loud Al doesn't just cross it he tries to erase it. But like I said before, his dirty tricks bit him n the but this time.
That's why many of them YJ get verbal commits in 9th Grade, LOSER! [/quote]Lots of girls from lots of clubs commit in 9th grade, not just "them YJ" Calling someone a "LOSER" shows that you have little or no defense in this argument. Here is the big question, how many of "them" 9th grade commits will have already peaked in 9th grade and will not make an impact, or even see the field in college? How many will be surpassed by players that matured a year or 2 later? Only time will tell seeing as the 9th grade commit is a new phenomena
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way better than your daughter MTt. Sinai might play dirty but so does bayport so does shoreham so does any other team. its part of the game. if you dont like it go tell your therapist and stop picking on some the best players in the country.
This quote is a stunning example of the culture in Mt. Sinai. It's one thing for a girl to maybe sneak a step after the whistle, It's another when they are taught to do it as policy for a program. That goal that was shown on M.S.G. is a perfect example of Mt. Sinai lacrosse, she knew her stick was illegal and didn't even celebrate with her team after an important goal, she immediately turned her back to the ref and started to tighten the strings while walking up field. The stick was so bad that she walked from the goal to mid field, all the way, fixing her stick. thats cheap and dirty just like Al. My daughter, just like everyone else, plays with and against some of the best athletes in the game, and no team, not North Port, Manhasset, Garden City, St Anthony's, no team is as blatantly dirty, and taught to "bend the rules as Mt Sinai". Al bar alone is a disgrace and shouldn't be allowed to lead girls with such talent.
This post is ridiculous. I am a Shoreham parent who has no love lost for Mt Sinai. Our rivalry is heated and very competitive. With that said I know many of the parents and players and they are great people. Speaking of their coach Al. He is loud and often times may rub some the wrong way BUT he prepares his team well and puts so much time and effort into the kids that it is commendable. I think his players are aggressive and tough. I do not think they are dirty. We have been accused of the same tactics and our teams are not dirty. The accusations come when a program wins.
Manhasset , Garden City and St. Anthony's win without that reputation. It does not surprise me that S.W.R. parents run to the defense of Mt. Sinai, Birds of a feather as they say. If you mean Loud Al prepares his kids by telling them to bend the rules until your caught than I agree. there is a slim line between aggressive play and cheating as policy, and Loud Al doesn't just cross it he tries to erase it. But like I said before, his dirty tricks bit him n the but this time.
Seems like a personal vendetta between this poster and the coach. Have some guts and talk to him. Face to face. Doubt you will though. BTW, St Anthonys is a political [lacrosse] show with a$$ kissing parents running the show. Yeah that's a great place to be. Lol. That a$$ kissing extends to travel as well. Just go to the UA try outs. It's comical.
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way...
So basically as long as you don't get caught it's all okay. The ends justify the means.
This is shameless if that's your position.
The Sinai girls have tons of talent and don't need to resort to illegal tactics to win, yet they do.
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way...
So basically as long as you don't get caught it's all okay. The ends justify the means.
This is shameless if that's your position.
The Sinai girls have tons of talent and don't need to resort to illegal tactics to win, yet they do.
They did and lost!
Seems like a personal vendetta between this poster and the coach. Have some guts and talk to him. Face to face. Doubt you will though. BTW, St Anthonys is a political [lacrosse] show with a$$ kissing parents running the show. Yeah that's a great place to be. Lol. That a$$ kissing extends to travel as well. Just go to the UA try outs. It's comical. [/quote] Wow, where do I start with this one? I have no personal vendetta with Loud AL, as a matter of fact my daughter does not even play in the same division as Mt. Sinai. She does not play for the Y.J. and never has, has not tried out for the Y.J. since 2009, where she made a team but chose another because the Y.J. are "not her style" ( her words not mine ). You do not know me and do not know what I would say or do to any person if I felt I was justified. Loud Al has no bearing on me or my family so I do not say anything because it is not my business, but with that being said, I do have an opinion on the subject, and have on many occasions had the displeasure of seeing this "Coach" in action on both the high school , and tournament circuit. Let me state unequivocally that Al Bartalone is an embarrassment to Long Island girls lacrosse with both his tactics and demeanor. As a poster recently said Mt. Sinai has enough talent to be good without his sneaky underhanded tactics.
Secondly , If anybody seems to have a vendetta against a coach or team it is obviously you. What is your concern with St. Anthony's? Could you not buy your daughters way onto that team as easily as you did the Y.J. , or did she just not have the talent you thought she did? And for the record I never said St Anthony's was a "Great place to be" . Through your anger with St Anthony's you obviously read something into my post that I did not mean
Mt Sinai winning streak was impressive. But how does it compare to McDonogh's
111-0 record? Not even in the same discussion.
McDonogh is a private school that recruits and gives scholarships to play. Can't compare to public schools. This is an old conversation.
Not comparing a public school to a private school. Public schools play public schools and private schools play private schools. So McDonogh plays other schools that recruit, give scholarships etc. McDonogh did not beat up public schools during their streak.
Wow....lots of chatter about Mt Sinai. Who do they play next?
CSH won on OT just now. As a spectator I have to say to the official who showed his friend DK daughter favoritism. Shame on you!
Let the crying begin. Ball don't lie. Cold Spring Harbor won. LIC champs.
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way better than your daughter MTt. Sinai might play dirty but so does bayport so does shoreham so does any other team. its part of the game. if you dont like it go tell your therapist and stop picking on some the best players in the country.
This quote is a stunning example of the culture in Mt. Sinai. It's one thing for a girl to maybe sneak a step after the whistle, It's another when they are taught to do it as policy for a program. That goal that was shown on M.S.G. is a perfect example of Mt. Sinai lacrosse, she knew her stick was illegal and didn't even celebrate with her team after an important goal, she immediately turned her back to the ref and started to tighten the strings while walking up field. The stick was so bad that she walked from the goal to mid field, all the way, fixing her stick. thats cheap and dirty just like Al. My daughter, just like everyone else, plays with and against some of the best athletes in the game, and no team, not North Port, Manhasset, Garden City, St Anthony's, no team is as blatantly dirty, and taught to "bend the rules as Mt Sinai". Al bar alone is a disgrace and shouldn't be allowed to lead girls with such talent.
is a great man. He is by far not the reason that the girls play overly aggressive and or cheat. I blame their parents. I have sat on the sidelines at YJ games and listened to these parents direct their children to do it not to do what the coach says. My daughter has played for Al and he teaches them nothing but to respect and love the game. It is not his philosophy to lie, cheat or beat up on anyone he is only a puppet in a program full of puppet masters. I'm sure the parents at Mt Sinai are probably blaming him for the loss why blame their precious little girls for being out played!!!
Mt. Sinai has by far the worst set of parents and it roles down to their kids. You can not blame a GREAT man like Al for his parents. The worst experience my daughter had with YJ over the years was dealing with the ego parents and players from that town. As funny as it may sound at the Suffolk county championship game there were more people rooting for BPBP just to see the Mt Sinai parents blow a tantrum and cry at the end of the game. I feel sorry for Al they will want him fired blaming him for a loss that was due the the coaching from the parents in the stands...tough break that a great coach works in a [lacrosse] show of a district would have loved for my daughter to be coached by such a great man!!!
Congratulations Cold Spring Harbor!
CSH won on OT just now. As a spectator I have to say to the official who showed his friend DK daughter favoritism. Shame on you!
I am a CSH fan and I concur, he should have made it less obvious.
Nice try Sayville. You played well.
What are you talking about? Great game by csh
Just saw a News12 recap. CSH scores and knocks BBP's goalie down. No call.
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
Just saw a News12 recap. CSH scores and knocks BBP's goalie down. No call.
Yep. Two great teams played, but the video clearly shows the game was not called fairly.
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way better than your daughter MTt. Sinai might play dirty but so does bayport so does shoreham so does any other team. its part of the game. if you dont like it go tell your therapist and stop picking on some the best players in the country.
This quote is a stunning example of the culture in Mt. Sinai. It's one thing for a girl to maybe sneak a step after the whistle, It's another when they are taught to do it as policy for a program. That goal that was shown on M.S.G. is a perfect example of Mt. Sinai lacrosse, she knew her stick was illegal and didn't even celebrate with her team after an important goal, she immediately turned her back to the ref and started to tighten the strings while walking up field. The stick was so bad that she walked from the goal to mid field, all the way, fixing her stick. thats cheap and dirty just like Al. My daughter, just like everyone else, plays with and against some of the best athletes in the game, and no team, not North Port, Manhasset, Garden City, St Anthony's, no team is as blatantly dirty, and taught to "bend the rules as Mt Sinai". Al bar alone is a disgrace and shouldn't be allowed to lead girls with such talent.
is a great man. He is by far not the reason that the girls play overly aggressive and or cheat. I blame their parents. I have sat on the sidelines at YJ games and listened to these parents direct their children to do it not to do what the coach says. My daughter has played for Al and he teaches them nothing but to respect and love the game. It is not his philosophy to lie, cheat or beat up on anyone he is only a puppet in a program full of puppet masters. I'm sure the parents at Mt Sinai are probably blaming him for the loss why blame their precious little girls for being out played!!!
Mt. Sinai has by far the worst set of parents and it roles down to their kids. You can not blame a GREAT man like Al for his parents. The worst experience my daughter had with YJ over the years was dealing with the ego parents and players from that town. As funny as it may sound at the Suffolk county championship game there were more people rooting for BPBP just to see the Mt Sinai parents blow a tantrum and cry at the end of the game. I feel sorry for Al they will want him fired blaming him for a loss that was due the the coaching from the parents in the stands...tough break that a great coach works in a [lacrosse] show of a district would have loved for my daughter to be coached by such a great man!!!
It's not just lacrosse.....deplorable fan behavior across the board.
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
Who is it?
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way better than your daughter MTt. Sinai might play dirty but so does bayport so does shoreham so does any other team. its part of the game. if you dont like it go tell your therapist and stop picking on some the best players in the country.
This quote is a stunning example of the culture in Mt. Sinai. It's one thing for a girl to maybe sneak a step after the whistle, It's another when they are taught to do it as policy for a program. That goal that was shown on M.S.G. is a perfect example of Mt. Sinai lacrosse, she knew her stick was illegal and didn't even celebrate with her team after an important goal, she immediately turned her back to the ref and started to tighten the strings while walking up field. The stick was so bad that she walked from the goal to mid field, all the way, fixing her stick. thats cheap and dirty just like Al. My daughter, just like everyone else, plays with and against some of the best athletes in the game, and no team, not North Port, Manhasset, Garden City, St Anthony's, no team is as blatantly dirty, and taught to "bend the rules as Mt Sinai". Al bar alone is a disgrace and shouldn't be allowed to lead girls with such talent.
This post is ridiculous. I am a Shoreham parent who has no love lost for Mt Sinai. Our rivalry is heated and very competitive. With that said I know many of the parents and players and they are great people. Speaking of their coach Al. He is loud and often times may rub some the wrong way BUT he prepares his team well and puts so much time and effort into the kids that it is commendable. I think his players are aggressive and tough. I do not think they are dirty. We have been accused of the same tactics and our teams are not dirty. The accusations come when a program wins.
Manhasset , Garden City and St. Anthony's win without that reputation. It does not surprise me that S.W.R. parents run to the defense of Mt. Sinai, Birds of a feather as they say. If you mean Loud Al prepares his kids by telling them to bend the rules until your caught than I agree. there is a slim line between aggressive play and cheating as policy, and Loud Al doesn't just cross it he tries to erase it. But like I said before, his dirty tricks bit him n the but this time.
Seems like a personal vendetta between this poster and the coach. Have some guts and talk to him. Face to face. Doubt you will though. BTW, St Anthonys is a political [lacrosse] show with a$$ kissing parents running the show. Yeah that's a great place to be. Lol. That a$$ kissing extends to travel as well. Just go to the UA try outs. It's comical.
Same in Garden City but they couldn't buy a win.
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
The officiating was horrible in the St. A's v. Sacred Heart final too - one official appeared to have a problem with her leg and could barely make it up and down the field. There has to be better officials out there to ref championship games - and I am a St. A's parent so not sour grapes.
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
the refs...the refs...the refs! yeah sure. csh was able to make a play when it counted. how about that? yeah and im sure csh parents were running up and down sidelines complaining that there was no call. stop it.
Players are going to play however they want to try an be successful. everyone does its part of life. theyre going to do what ever they want so why are you still picking on the best players on long island. theyre way better than your daughter MTt. Sinai might play dirty but so does bayport so does shoreham so does any other team. its part of the game. if you dont like it go tell your therapist and stop picking on some the best players in the country.
This quote is a stunning example of the culture in Mt. Sinai. It's one thing for a girl to maybe sneak a step after the whistle, It's another when they are taught to do it as policy for a program. That goal that was shown on M.S.G. is a perfect example of Mt. Sinai lacrosse, she knew her stick was illegal and didn't even celebrate with her team after an important goal, she immediately turned her back to the ref and started to tighten the strings while walking up field. The stick was so bad that she walked from the goal to mid field, all the way, fixing her stick. thats cheap and dirty just like Al. My daughter, just like everyone else, plays with and against some of the best athletes in the game, and no team, not North Port, Manhasset, Garden City, St Anthony's, no team is as blatantly dirty, and taught to "bend the rules as Mt Sinai". Al bar alone is a disgrace and shouldn't be allowed to lead girls with such talent.
is a great man. He is by far not the reason that the girls play overly aggressive and or cheat. I blame their parents. I have sat on the sidelines at YJ games and listened to these parents direct their children to do it not to do what the coach says. My daughter has played for Al and he teaches them nothing but to respect and love the game. It is not his philosophy to lie, cheat or beat up on anyone he is only a puppet in a program full of puppet masters. I'm sure the parents at Mt Sinai are probably blaming him for the loss why blame their precious little girls for being out played!!!
Mt. Sinai has by far the worst set of parents and it roles down to their kids. You can not blame a GREAT man like Al for his parents. The worst experience my daughter had with YJ over the years was dealing with the ego parents and players from that town. As funny as it may sound at the Suffolk county championship game there were more people rooting for BPBP just to see the Mt Sinai parents blow a tantrum and cry at the end of the game. I feel sorry for Al they will want him fired blaming him for a loss that was due the the coaching from the parents in the stands...tough break that a great coach works in a [lacrosse] show of a district would have loved for my daughter to be coached by such a great man!!!
I know a lot of the Mt. Sinai parents and I have never heard any of them say anything but how much work Al puts in with the girls and how he has been instrumental in their success. My daughter has played with and against them and the MT Sinai parents have always been supportive of all the girls. It's obvious you have some personal issues, Give it a rest or address it with them yourself.
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
also that nassau ref and CSH coach have some sought of work related relationship... check that one out.....
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
Who is it?
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
also that nassau ref and CSH coach have some sought of work related relationship... check that one out.....
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
Who is it?
Nassau ref from farmingdale, president of nassau officials organazation. should i say more....
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
also that nassau ref and CSH coach have some sought of work related relationship... check that one out.....
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
Who is it?
Nassau ref from farmingdale, president of nassau officials organazation. should i say more....
Both Teams Coaches agree who is going to Officiate playoff games. There are Teams in Nassau that refuse to have the Official in question,
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
also that nassau ref and CSH coach have some sought of work related relationship... check that one out.....
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
Who is it?
Nassau ref from farmingdale, president of nassau officials organazation. should i say more....
I just saw the tape, he should have just let her pick up the ball with her hand and throw the ball in the goal. If you are not capable of putting friendship aside then you should not be officiating a game in which your friends daughter played. Is there anyone at NYSED that oversees officials? This guy is out of control.
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
also that nassau ref and CSH coach have some sought of work related relationship... check that one out.....
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
3 of 4 refs were from Suffolk.
Who is it?
Nassau ref from farmingdale, president of nassau officials organazation. should i say more....
I just saw the tape, he should have just let her pick up the ball with her hand and throw the ball in the goal. If you are not capable of putting friendship aside then you should not be officiating a game in which your friends daughter played. Is there anyone at NYSED that oversees officials? This guy is out of control.
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
also that nassau ref and CSH coach have some sought of work related relationship... check that one out.....
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
Who is it?
Nassau ref from farmingdale, president of nassau officials organazation. should i say more....
The head of the Nassau officials assoc. is Joe Fanning
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
also that nassau ref and CSH coach have some sought of work related relationship... check that one out.....
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
Who is it?
Nassau ref from farmingdale, president of nassau officials organazation. should i say more....
The head of the Nassau officials assoc. is Joe Fanning
You Suffolk people really need to learn how to lose (and win) with dignity. I can't believe all the stuff you write on here. The only thing I ask is this - please keep it up. I love reading it - it's like a car wreck that you have to see. I also love it because you rip each other so much that hopefully coaches get wind of your antics and your reputations making it easier to recruit our kids. Please continue...
Just saw a News12 recap. CSH scores and knocks BBP's goalie down. No call.
Yep. Two great teams played, but the video clearly shows the game was not called fairly.
Was not at game...Not from either town...posts made me wonder so I watched the replay on MSG Varsity.
If you go back and watch, in slow motion, you will clearly see that white #18 pushes the shooter from behind causing the shooter to collide into the goalie. Good goal!
Had the shot missed it would have been a fee position on the 8 as it would have impacted the shot.
you may not like the official and he may stink. But he did get this one right!
Just saw a News12 recap. CSH scores and knocks BBP's goalie down. No call.
Yep. Two great teams played, but the video clearly shows the game was not called fairly.
Was not at game...Not from either town...posts made me wonder so I watched the replay on MSG Varsity.
If you go back and watch, in slow motion, you will clearly see that white #18 pushes the shooter from behind causing the shooter to collide into the goalie. Good goal!
Had the shot missed it would have been a fee position on the 8 as it would have impacted the shot.
you may not like the official and he may stink. But he did get this one right!
If fouls occurred during play I think it should have been no Goal with a free Position. If Not should have been no draw after Goal with CSH getting ball
Just saw a News12 recap. CSH scores and knocks BBP's goalie down. No call.
Yep. Two great teams played, but the video clearly shows the game was not called fairly.
Was not at game...Not from either town...posts made me wonder so I watched the replay on MSG Varsity.
If you go back and watch, in slow motion, you will clearly see that white #18 pushes the shooter from behind causing the shooter to collide into the goalie. Good goal!
Had the shot missed it would have been a fee position on the 8 as it would have impacted the shot.
you may not like the official and he may stink. But he did get this one right!
OK Dave, I mean Dad.
Just saw a News12 recap. CSH scores and knocks BBP's goalie down. No call.
Yep. Two great teams played, but the video clearly shows the game was not called fairly.
Was not at game...Not from either town...posts made me wonder so I watched the replay on MSG Varsity.
If you go back and watch, in slow motion, you will clearly see that white #18 pushes the shooter from behind causing the shooter to collide into the goalie. Good goal!
Had the shot missed it would have been a fee position on the 8 as it would have impacted the shot.
you may not like the official and he may stink. But he did get this one right!
If fouls occurred during play I think it should have been no Goal with a free Position. If Not should have been no draw after Goal with CSH getting ball
If a foul occurs while a girl is in the critical scoring area and she still has advantage the flag is raised and the whistle is held. In this case the ref is correct to allow the shot to be taken. Possession should go to the scoring team due to the major foul after the shot . That's just how I would have called it.
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
also that nassau ref and CSH coach have some sought of work related relationship... check that one out.....
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
3 of 4 refs were from Suffolk.
Who is it?
Nassau ref from farmingdale, president of nassau officials organazation. should i say more....
I just saw the tape, he should have just let her pick up the ball with her hand and throw the ball in the goal. If you are not capable of putting friendship aside then you should not be officiating a game in which your friends daughter played. Is there anyone at NYSED that oversees officials? This guy is out of control.
It is sad that these bad ref calls can determine the outcome of so many games. You can say peole are just complaining, and blaming others for their loss, but I disagree. When your child reaches a competition of high calibur, there is a lot at stake. There needs to be someting done to ensure these ref calls are legit. Maybe more refs are needed? I don't know the answer, but it's not right!!
Just a quick note. That was one of the most horrendously officiated games I have ever seen. After the last 3 min half, the Cold Spring fans didn't even know if they should cheer. Being a Bayport parent and having multiple CSH parents say it was a terrible mess and that the Nassau official in question is known for his terrible calls. They see him do it all the time. I am not saying either team would have been on top if he had not been so bad but at least both sides would be in understanding of their control of W/L position at the end.
The officiating was horrible in the St. A's v. Sacred Heart final too - one official appeared to have a problem with her leg and could barely make it up and down the field. There has to be better officials out there to ref championship games - and I am a St. A's parent so not sour grapes.
It is a sad mess that this official with a terrible reputation would even be allowed to officiate any Championship Game. There needs to be a way to prevent him continuing to put his mark on the game.
I agree, the officiating is inconsistent and sometimes downright bias! It is a sport that has more whistles and stoppages than a traffic cop in Times Square! This puts a lot of emphasis on the officials interpretation of the rules and their ability to execute that day. There is a philosophical difference of how the game should be called throughout women's lacrosse and you see those differences from ref to ref. It makes it difficult for the girls to know how to play from game to game. Since there are so many calls and subjectivity there are more reaction from coaches, players and fans to those calls. I have been involved in many sports and I have never seen ref's influenced from that reaction as much as this sport. To the point where their calls get demonstrative towards the team they have turned on. These refs need to be reminded that the game is not about them and they don't need to be a part in the outcome!
That being said, I watched both BBP games vs. MT Sinai and CSH, As much as they got the short end against CSH, they certainly got the benefit in the MT Sinai game.
have we forgotten that this was not the only game played?? West islip rocked Fdale and is off to the states.. 20-0 and still counting
have we forgotten that this was not the only game played?? West islip rocked Fdale and is off to the states.. 20-0 and still counting
Yeah no one seems to care
have we forgotten that this was not the only game played?? West islip rocked Fdale and is off to the states.. 20-0 and still counting
great job WI, good luck in Cortland!
CONGRATS TO WEST ISLIP. GO WIN STATES. A WM parent
have we forgotten that this was not the only game played?? West islip rocked Fdale and is off to the states.. 20-0 and still counting
Yeah no one seems to care
Jealous people say they don't, but they do!
have we forgotten that this was not the only game played?? West islip rocked Fdale and is off to the states.. 20-0 and still counting
Yeah no one seems to care
I think West Islip got very lucky its 1st 2 playoff games, should have lost, then played so so against Hauppauge.. But against Farmingdale after farmingdale went up 3 0, I thought it would be a blow out. WI woke up and dominated the rest of the game 12 5. Farmingdale goalie played great could have been much worse like 16 5.
you jealous people don't get it WI doesn't give a [lacrosse] what you think
Good luck to all Long Island Teams in States. Make us proud!
you jealous people don't get it WI doesn't give a [lacrosse] what you think
What the [lacrosse] is going on in suffolk county?
you jealous people don't get it WI doesn't give a [lacrosse] what you think
What the [lacrosse] is going on in suffolk county?
if WI didn't care what people thought then you wouldn't have posted that. Farmingdale was weak this year. They lost to many of the stronger teams, defense wasn't what it used to be. It's good to see someone knocked the Fdale parents off their pedestals. Div 1 in suffolk county also very weak this year would love to think of what the score would have been if WI played MT Sinai, Sayville, Bayport or ESM guarenteed not the same results as they had against fdale
you jealous people don't get it WI doesn't give a [lacrosse] what you think
What the [lacrosse] is going on in suffolk county?
if WI didn't care what people thought then you wouldn't have posted that. Farmingdale was weak this year. They lost to many of the stronger teams, defense wasn't what it used to be. It's good to see someone knocked the Fdale parents off their pedestals. Div 1 in suffolk county also very weak this year would love to think of what the score would have been if WI played MT Sinai, Sayville, Bayport or ESM guarenteed not the same results as they had against fdale
hello from cortland
any score from this morning
Good luck West Islip, come home with the 'ship.
Manhasset, Cold Spring Harbor and West Islip all win to make it to the State Championships. Strong Island!
I have a question. If college coaches are not allowed to contact you before your junior year, how do all of these 9/10 graders get to committ? Who do they talk to if they can't talk to you? Thank you.
I have a question. If college coaches are not allowed to contact you before your junior year, how do all of these 9/10 graders get to committ? Who do they talk to if they can't talk to you? Thank you.
Pretty sure it's a one-way "commitment" - the girls saying where they want to go. I don't think the schools are committing to anything - why would they so far in advance? Too many variables on both sides.
They contact you through your club director or coach.
I have a question. If college coaches are not allowed to contact you before your junior year, how do all of these 9/10 graders get to committ? Who do they talk to if they can't talk to you? Thank you.
The girls are allowed to call the coaches, so the coaches can talk to the girls. The coaches just can't initiate the call. It's silly, really. If the player calls and gets voicemail, they leave a message, and mention a few times that they'll call back. If the coach wants the kid, they'll be available one of the times, to answer the phone. Also, the coaches can call the club coaches, who then tell the girls to call the coach, or act as a liaison. It's a pretty useless rule when you think about it!
Thank you all.. Just one more question, if a college coach calls the director of your club is he oblugated to tell you?
Thank you all.. Just one more question, if a college coach calls the director of your club is he oblugated to tell you?
Doubt he's obligated, but I wouldn't want to play for any director who wouldn't.
Thank you all.. Just one more question, if a college coach calls the director of your club is he oblugated to tell you?
Doubt he's obligated, but I wouldn't want to play for any director who wouldn't.
Same here!
My daughter is not yet in HS but I find it sad that we can't be happy for the winners, or give the respect to the teams that make it to the championships. obviously it cant be everyone. Get over yourself and be happy for those who make it this far. One day it might be your daughter. We can blame refs,etc. but all the girls are working hard to achieve their dreams. Do you have any idea how hard it is to lose in a championship game. And you say "good"? Shame on you!...Smithtown parent, and GREAT JOB WI great having you represent LI
My daughter is not yet in HS but I find it sad that we can't be happy for the winners, or give the respect to the teams that make it to the championships. obviously it cant be everyone. Get over yourself and be happy for those who make it this far. One day it might be your daughter. We can blame refs,etc. but all the girls are working hard to achieve their dreams. Do you have any idea how hard it is to lose in a championship game. And you say "good"? Shame on you!...Smithtown parent, and GREAT JOB WI great having you represent LI
I'll say it again - good! Like to see other teams win, especially after all the winning WI has done over the years, especially on the boys side. Like to see things mixed up and other towns winning. Also quiets down the cocky WI people I know, so I guess it's personal!
My daughter is not yet in HS but I find it sad that we can't be happy for the winners, or give the respect to the teams that make it to the championships. obviously it cant be everyone. Get over yourself and be happy for those who make it this far. One day it might be your daughter. We can blame refs,etc. but all the girls are working hard to achieve their dreams. Do you have any idea how hard it is to lose in a championship game. And you say "good"? Shame on you!...Smithtown parent, and GREAT JOB WI great having you represent LI
I'll say it again - good! Like to see other teams win, especially after all the winning WI has done over the years, especially on the boys side. Like to see things mixed up and other towns winning. Also quiets down the cocky WI people I know, so I guess it's personal!
Karma will come back to you my friend.
For your information the W I Girls Varsity untill this year has never won a Suffolk County Championship. Please don't project your hatred of the WI Boys onto the Girls Program.
Thank you all.. Just one more question, if a college coach calls the director of your club is he oblugated to tell you?
Doubt he's obligated, but I wouldn't want to play for any director who wouldn't.
I'm sure BS holds back telling a kid of a call until Hofstra can get an offer in. Same as CR holding back til the kid pays their $1800 recruiting fee. Disgusting!
Parents, do your HW and get involved! Only you truly have you'd child's best interest at heart!!
west islip will be back at some capacity you people don't realize we don't care what you think
I have a question. If college coaches are not allowed to contact you before your junior year, how do all of these 9/10 graders get to committ? Who do they talk to if they can't talk to you? Thank you.
Pretty sure it's a one-way "commitment" - the girls saying where they want to go. I don't think the schools are committing to anything - why would they so far in advance? Too many variables on both sides.
It is called a verbal commitment and both the school and the athlete are verbally agreeing
Thank you all.. Just one more question, if a college coach calls the director of your club is he oblugated to tell you?
Doubt he's obligated, but I wouldn't want to play for any director who wouldn't.
I'm sure BS holds back telling a kid of a call until Hofstra can get an offer in. Same as CR holding back til the kid pays their $1800 recruiting fee. Disgusting!
Parents, do your HW and get involved! Only you truly have you'd child's best interest at heart!!
You are ridiculous ... I am a YJ parent and all coaches interest info was given to us and no we did not pay a fee
Thank you all.. Just one more question, if a college coach calls the director of your club is he oblugated to tell you?
Doubt he's obligated, but I wouldn't want to play for any director who wouldn't.
I'm sure BS holds back telling a kid of a call until Hofstra can get an offer in. Same as CR holding back til the kid pays their $1800 recruiting fee. Disgusting!
Parents, do your HW and get involved! Only you truly have you'd child's best interest at heart!!
You are ridiculous ... I am a YJ parent and all coaches interest info was given to us and no we did not pay a fee
I also agree as a YJ parent all info was forwarded my way with regards to my child and no additional fees were paid. The recruiting fee is something completely different if you don't know your facts don't state something. My daughter was recruited and helped by her YJ coach as well as CR with no additional fees!!!
Thank you all.. Just one more question, if a college coach calls the director of your club is he oblugated to tell you?
Doubt he's obligated, but I wouldn't want to play for any director who wouldn't.
I'm sure BS holds back telling a kid of a call until Hofstra can get an offer in. Same as CR holding back til the kid pays their $1800 recruiting fee. Disgusting!
Parents, do your HW and get involved! Only you truly have you'd child's best interest at heart!!
You are ridiculous ... I am a YJ parent and all coaches interest info was given to us and no we did not pay a fee
Yes they may tell you a school called but YJ will not say anything to the college coaches who expressed interest. No positive feedback, no glowing endorsements. No recruiting fee = no recommendations.
west islip will be back at some capacity you people don't realize we don't care what you think
Then why do you keep responding?
My daughter is not yet in HS but I find it sad that we can't be happy for the winners, or give the respect to the teams that make it to the championships. obviously it cant be everyone. Get over yourself and be happy for those who make it this far. One day it might be your daughter. We can blame refs,etc. but all the girls are working hard to achieve their dreams. Do you have any idea how hard it is to lose in a championship game. And you say "good"? Shame on you!...Smithtown parent, and GREAT JOB WI great having you represent LI
I'll say it again - good! Like to see other teams win, especially after all the winning WI has done over the years, especially on the boys side. Like to see things mixed up and other towns winning. Also quiets down the cocky WI people I know, so I guess it's personal!
Karma will come back to you my friend.
For your information the W I Girls Varsity untill this year has never won a Suffolk County Championship. Please don't project your hatred of the WI Boys onto the Girls Program.
I know they haven't won anything yet, but can't help the boys side spilling over, and making me happy someone else won! Don't take it personally!
Congratulations to Manhasset on its State Championship!
West Islip & Cold Spring Harbor--great showing and you make LI proud.
West Islip and Cold Spring Harbor proud? They got the crap kicked out of them. Over rated LI teams were sent home packing!
West Islip and Cold Spring Harbor proud? They got the crap kicked out of them. Over rated LI teams were sent home packing!
CSH lost by 1. That hardly counts as getting the crap kicked out of them.
Just in case you were wondering the weather up in Cortland was perfect. West Genesee was by far the best team we played all year they started 10 seniors, now have SEVEN State Titles not like the teams we beat that have one or two girls that could play. Congrats to the West Genesee girls and parents you guys are a class act. Thanks to the West Islip Senior girls who lead the way to Cortland we are going to miss you all. Thanks to the West Islip community whos support was second to none. The tailgate in Cortland was historic thanks to all the parents who worked so hard to put it together. A big thank you to the coaches who put this team on the field you guys did a superb job. We are all proud of our girls for making this season the best in the history of our school. Enjoy your summer!
Just in case you were wondering the weather up in Cortland was perfect. West Genesee was by far the best team we played all year they started 10 seniors, now have SEVEN State Titles not like the teams we beat that have one or two girls that could play. Congrats to the West Genesee girls and parents you guys are a class act. Thanks to the West Islip Senior girls who lead the way to Cortland we are going to miss you all. Thanks to the West Islip community whos support was second to none. The tailgate in Cortland was historic thanks to all the parents who worked so hard to put it together. A big thank you to the coaches who put this team on the field you guys did a superb job. We are all proud of our girls for making this season the best in the history of our school. Enjoy your summer!
This cannot be from a West Islip parent! You can't be this obnoxious can you? Like at the county game when one of you was unbearably rude to a College Coach after the game not recognizing her in parking lot as you cut in front of her - saying what team are u from I'm from West Islip!!
Just in case you were wondering the weather up in Cortland was perfect. West Genesee was by far the best team we played all year they started 10 seniors, now have SEVEN State Titles not like the teams we beat that have one or two girls that could play. Congrats to the West Genesee girls and parents you guys are a class act. Thanks to the West Islip Senior girls who lead the way to Cortland we are going to miss you all. Thanks to the West Islip community whos support was second to none. The tailgate in Cortland was historic thanks to all the parents who worked so hard to put it together. A big thank you to the coaches who put this team on the field you guys did a superb job. We are all proud of our girls for making this season the best in the history of our school. Enjoy your summer!
Seniors who led the way?? Guess those pesky juniors and sophomores didn't lead the way!!
West Islip and Cold Spring Harbor proud? They got the crap kicked out of them. Over rated LI teams were sent home packing!
West islip lost by 5, Cold Spring Harbor by one (with two seconds left) an Manhasset won by four. Overall one for three in championships with a -2 goal differential.
I'm sure the Coach wasn't there to watch any of the Happauge girls.
How many girls are expected at Under Armour tryouts today?
You want to hear something real funny there was no traffic in Cortland and plenty of College Coaches watching the 12 BEST TEAMS IN THE STATE compete. So all the girls got plenty of exposure without playing in some summer league tournament coached by BS or CR so when you have trouble getting out of a parking lot maybe your daughter could assist you or was she the one collapsed on the turf crying her eyes out while you were lost in the parking lot?
That would be next year. Thank you
Sorry I didn't recognize a college coach or any coach for that matter but I do recall the score of the game. I'm pretty sure the parking lot was empty by the time we left cause we were to busy celebrating with our GIRLS until Dowling security turned out the lights and told us to scram before they called the police and rounded us up. So I don't remember seeing any College coaches in the parking lot because the lot was empty.
I'm sure the Coach wasn't there to watch any of the Happauge girls.
I'm sure the college coaches were there to watch all three games. Lots of talented athletes on all six teams.
You want to hear something real funny there was no traffic in Cortland and plenty of College Coaches watching the 12 BEST TEAMS IN THE STATE compete. So all the girls got plenty of exposure without playing in some summer league tournament coached by BS or CR so when you have trouble getting out of a parking lot maybe your daughter could assist you or was she the one collapsed on the turf crying her eyes out while you were lost in the parking lot?
All I know is your team only had one all american for all your greatness. Same amount as Hauppauge. And LESS than Mt. Sinai's two All Americans.
You want to hear something real funny there was no traffic in Cortland and plenty of College Coaches watching the 12 BEST TEAMS IN THE STATE compete. So all the girls got plenty of exposure without playing in some summer league tournament coached by BS or CR so when you have trouble getting out of a parking lot maybe your daughter could assist you or was she the one collapsed on the turf crying her eyes out while you were lost in the parking lot?
Congrats to your daughter, look what she was able to accomplish w/ such a [lacrosse] as a parent!
Sorry I didn't recognize a college coach or any coach for that matter but I do recall the score of the game. I'm pretty sure the parking lot was empty by the time we left cause we were to busy celebrating with our GIRLS until Dowling security turned out the lights and told us to scram before they called the police and rounded us up. So I don't remember seeing any College coaches in the parking lot because the lot was empty.
And again, congrats to your daughter, look how much she has accomplished with such a [lacrosse] as a parent!
Original. You my friend started not I maybe if you graduated high school your thought process would be just a little better.
Thats why its about being a complete team so the All American does not have to do the heavy lifting all the time. Thats why West Genesee was the best team we played.
Thats why its about being a complete team so the All American does not have to do the heavy lifting all the time. Thats why West Genesee was the best team we played.
you are now yesterday's news. See you next year, can't wait for you to taste your humble pie!
Thats why its about being a complete team so the All American does not have to do the heavy lifting all the time. Thats why West Genesee was the best team we played.
you are now yesterday's news. See you next year, can't wait for you to taste your humble pie!
WI = One year wonder! (almost)
Thats why its about being a complete team so the All American does not have to do the heavy lifting all the time. Thats why West Genesee was the best team we played.
you are now yesterday's news. See you next year, can't wait for you to taste your humble pie!
WI = One year wonder! (almost)
Karma..
Congratulations to all of the players in the class of 2014. Wherever your next stop in life is enjoy every moment and always remember where you came from. For those going on to play lacrosse in college leave your old colors at home and join forces with your new team and show the world how great girls lacrosse is on Long Island!! Some of you from many different districts will now become teammates and more then likely great friends leave the rivalry of high school sports on the field that you are leaving and join your forces to show the strength LI has to offer!! Best of Luck to you all..enjoy every minute of every moment!!
Under Armour tryouts were a joke. I think I saw one or two evaluators without YJ affiliation. How does UA allow this to happen?
Under Armour tryouts were a joke. I think I saw one or two evaluators without YJ affiliation. How does UA allow this to happen?
Under Armour tryouts were a joke. I think I saw one or two evaluators without YJ affiliation. How does UA allow this to happen?
I didn't notice any of them looking at the field!, no clipboards no pens...I guess the teams are set.
It was an hour and a half of throwing the ball around amongst themselves, self stretching and then right into games..wth, I didn't see any stations or small sided stuff. They didn't even do any shuttles...
Does anyone know of a Varsity and JV Summer League other than the Farmingdale one?
Why all the anger people. West Islip had a great year.Can any other team say they went undefeated for the entire season all the way to the state championship final game?? It was a great experience for them and one they will remember always stop sh*tting on it. As for CSH and Manhasset, congrats to those girls as well. Enjoy your children and stop acting like idiots
UA is a huge joke. Evaluators were not even watching. The YJ crew was in a pow wow joking and laughing most of the day. I think calls and emails to Corrigan Sports and Under Armour are overdue. Boycott their products and tell everyone you know to do the same. That should get their attention.
UA should have been run better. No reason for ALL of the YJ girls to be on the same team, did not allow passing to open players. Now it's clear why the "LI ALL AMERICAN" has not sent out invites to the to the best sophmores and freshmen. Say what you want but stats don't lie. If it's supposed to be comprised of the best varsity players and you have rostered girls who barely played vs girls with hard earned stats then it's clear this is a YJ money grab. What a shame, could have been good for Long Island.
UA should have been run better. No reason for ALL of the YJ girls to be on the same team, did not allow passing to open players. Now it's clear why the "LI ALL AMERICAN" has not sent out invites to the to the best sophmores and freshmen. Say what you want but stats don't lie. If it's supposed to be comprised of the best varsity players and you have rostered girls who barely played vs girls with hard earned stats then it's clear this is a YJ money grab. What a shame, could have been good for Long Island.
Stats lie all the time! Stats don't take into account level of competition, Quality of team, position or what the players role was on the field. Many of the TOP players (most recruited) are NOT the highest STAT grabbers! Post's like this really show the ignorance that is prevalent with parents. There are so many parents who have no competitive athletic background and base their evaluation of their child on their own limited knowledge (a little knowledge is dangerous). Where I agree there is always a level of politics in every tryout and if that could be eliminated it would even the playing field for some of the girls on the bubble (the top kids are easy picks), but the biggest problem with most tryouts is the parents lack of ability to evaluate the talent and level of play of their own child. Be honest with yourself and your child, set the right expectations. Most won't or don't have the ability to do that, so it's easier to call FOUL!
UA should have been run better. No reason for ALL of the YJ girls to be on the same team, did not allow passing to open players. Now it's clear why the "LI ALL AMERICAN" has not sent out invites to the to the best sophmores and freshmen. Say what you want but stats don't lie. If it's supposed to be comprised of the best varsity players and you have rostered girls who barely played vs girls with hard earned stats then it's clear this is a YJ money grab. What a shame, could have been good for Long Island.
really? which team was that? My daughter played with 2 other YJ's. Obviously she wasn't on the team with ALL the YJ's and she did just fine with all the non YJ's.
UA should have been run better. No reason for ALL of the YJ girls to be on the same team, did not allow passing to open players. Now it's clear why the "LI ALL AMERICAN" has not sent out invites to the to the best sophmores and freshmen. Say what you want but stats don't lie. If it's supposed to be comprised of the best varsity players and you have rostered girls who barely played vs girls with hard earned stats then it's clear this is a YJ money grab. What a shame, could have been good for Long Island.
really? which team was that? My daughter played with 2 other YJ's. Obviously she wasn't on the team with ALL the YJ's and she did just fine with all the non YJ's.
My daughter was on a team with 4 or 5 Yellow Jacket players and it worked out fine. In fact, she made a new friend and, oh no - it was a yellow jacket
Relax - the kids all like each other. the parents are the ones with the issues. Some real, some imagined.
The UA Tryouts are so biased it is not even funny. Some kids are not even trying out because of the bias. People should contact Under Armour directly. The people running it for them Corrigan Sports is not helping the situation at all. Yesterday was laughable at how poorly it was run. At least humor us a little bit and let the YJ directors at least make believe they have a clip board and a pen in their hand and are taking notes.
My daughter was on a team with 4 or 5 Yellow Jacket players and it worked out fine. In fact, she made a new friend and, oh no - it was a yellow jacket Relax - the kids all like each other. the parents are the ones with the issues. Some real, some imagined.
There you have it- on a team w 4/5 YJ. I saw that many on every team, and they naturally passed to each other, and if you were playing together for years you would too. But they also had a go to the goal mentality which is frustrating when you see open players calling for the ball. Maybe your daughter is happy not touching the ball and is there "for the experience", but I thought it looked like a YJ showcase.
My daughter was on a team with 4 or 5 Yellow Jacket players and it worked out fine. In fact, she made a new friend and, oh no - it was a yellow jacket Relax - the kids all like each other. the parents are the ones with the issues. Some real, some imagined.
There you have it- on a team w 4/5 YJ. I saw that many on every team, and they naturally passed to each other, and if you were playing together for years you would too. But they also had a go to the goal mentality which is frustrating when you see open players calling for the ball. Maybe your daughter is happy not touching the ball and is there "for the experience", but I thought it looked like a YJ showcase.
Maybe your daughter should've worked harder on integrating into the team she was assigned to. My daughter got plenty of touches on the ball. Lemonade out of lemoms, ya know?
My daughter was on a team with 4 or 5 Yellow Jacket players and it worked out fine. In fact, she made a new friend and, oh no - it was a yellow jacket Relax - the kids all like each other. the parents are the ones with the issues. Some real, some imagined.
There you have it- on a team w 4/5 YJ. I saw that many on every team, and they naturally passed to each other, and if you were playing together for years you would too. But they also had a go to the goal mentality which is frustrating when you see open players calling for the ball. Maybe your daughter is happy not touching the ball and is there "for the experience", but I thought it looked like a YJ showcase.
Well if there were 4 or 5 on every team than which was the ALL YJ team? You people are comical, first you complain that there are too many YJ on one team, then you complain that they are too evenly distributed and are dominating each team? Which one is it? Ask yourself this; If your daughter makes it, are you still going to call Corrigan sports and tell them it was bias and she needs to be removed from the roster? BTW there have been plenty of great non YJ kids make the teams in the past who have had successful tournaments and enjoyed themselves.
Does anyone know of a Varsity and JV Summer League other than the Farmingdale one?
With Florida mandating all girls lacrosse players to ware helmets, does anyone think any team outside of Florida will be willing to play Florida's teams.
With Florida mandating all girls lacrosse players to ware helmets, does anyone think any team outside of Florida will be willing to play Florida's teams.
First I've heard of this. Tell me more.
Does anyone know of a Varsity and JV Summer League other than the Farmingdale one?
Dowling has one - 5 weeks, July and first week of August. The Smithtown girls link on the left has the details.
Does anyone know of a Varsity and JV Summer League other than the Farmingdale one?
Dowling has one - 5 weeks, July and first week of August. The Smithtown girls link on the left has the details.
Sorry, link on the left is Boys, try smithtowngirlslax.com
From Inside Lacrosse
It’s official: helmets have been mandated in the state of Florida.
On June 10, the Florida High School Athletic Association ruled that all participating members of the FHSAA will have to wear helmets in 2015. These participating FHSAA programs will be the only teams in the nation state-mandated to wear this form of protective head gear.
“The board did vote on mandating a helmet for the 2015 season,” Alex Ozuna, an Assistant Director of Athletics and the lacrosse administrator for the Florida High School Athletic Association, confirmed Wednesday. “A board member brought up this recommendation to the board for an action item. It was discussed during the operations committee, and we had individuals from US Lacrosse present to kind of give the committee a background on where they currently are in the process of standardizing specifications for a soft helmet for the girl’s game.”
Ozuna continued: “The item was taken to the Board of Directors. The whole entire board reviewed and took into account what was said by the individuals from US Lacrosse and decided that because it is a major safety issue in our state — they took into account how long the process has been for US Lacrosse to get to this point — and moving forward that they wanted to go ahead and take the steps now instead of having to wait one, two, possibly three years for an actual product with the specific standardize specifications that US Lacrosse was going to implement.”
Melissa Coyne, the Women’s Game Director at US Lacrosse, was one of two US Lacrosse representatives present at the FHSAA board meeting and was disappointed in the decision to mandate helmets in a sport that has no standard or definition for what a women’s lacrosse helmet is. “The mandate is very vague. Just simply, that they would mandate women’s lacrosse players to wear a helmet. They did not indicate at any point during that meeting what that would be.”
Coyne continued, “Obviously, that caused concern amongst a lot of members attending the meeting and for US Lacrosse, as well. I find it to be extremely irresponsible for any governing body to suggest an equipment intervention that has not been tested for nor is relevant in the game it’s going to be used… I’m disappointed they would make such a short-sighted and vague mandate.”
The decision comes at a time that many close to the sport have advocated that player safety calls for head protection and that helmets are a necessary leap to ensure that all participants are out of harm’s way as it pertains to concussions and head trauma injuries. However, many others have jumped on the opposition’s side of the argument: mandating helmets in the women’s game will only make matters worse.
The NCAA Committee on Competitive Safeguards and Medical Aspects of Sports is among them.
In a position statement dated December 2013, the NCAA addressed misperceptions regarding helmets and their prevention of concussions among student-athletes. “It should be noted that there is no helmet that can prevent a concussion,” the statement reads before touching base on what many have argued the premiere reason against helmets in women’s lacrosse: putting helmets on female players will only make the game more physical. The statement reads:
“When considering the use of this optional equipment during practice or permitted competition, athletes and coaches should take the time to read the qualifying statements provided with such a product addressing its limitations, particularly to prevent serious head injuries. Wearing such a device may provide a false sense of security in the area of concussion protection by the player, their coaches and their parents. In addition, placing headgear on a student-athlete may indirectly justify striking them in the head by opponents, especially in sports where this has never been the intent (for example, soccer, basketball, women’s lacrosse).
Moreover, a false sense of security in the area of concussion protection increases the likelihood that players, coaches, and parents will consider the medical condition to be adequately addressed and may place less importance upon avoiding head impact, reporting concussion symptoms, and returning to play prior to full recovery following a concussion.”
Also among those in favor of keeping the game helmet-free, the FHSAA girls lacrosse advisory panel comprising high school coaches within the FHSAA schools and an official. “The vote was strictly just the board members of the Florida High School Athletic Association. This topic was presented to our girls lacrosse advisory panel,” Ozuna said of the board’s vote against the advisory committee’s decision. “The panel did turn down this request to mandate helmets — so, they denied the recommendation; but, this recommendation was brought up by a board member at our board meeting and that’s what was voted on.”
In a historic move for the sport of women’s lacrosse, the decision made by the FHSAA already has the lacrosse community abuzz with questions: What were the factors behind this decision? Will this impact participation numbers in the country’s fastest-growing sport?
But, namely, the initial reaction has been: What type of helmet will be worn by these players?
The FHSAA cannot answer that question right now.
“The vote happened yesterday (Tuesday), so as a staff right now we’re just looking into a number of different things. We’re not quite sure where we’re going quite yet,” Ozuna said in regard to what type of helmet will be worn since no equipment provider in the sport offers a women’s lacrosse helmet, nor has US Lacrosse announced specification standards for what a women’s lacrosse helmet should be. "It’s a little premature to kind of guess where we’re going to go — whether it’s a soft or hard. If it’s a soft helmet, which helmet would it be? We’re not there yet. We’re looking into it.”
It is with that decision — that there has been no specific piece of equipment taken into account with this mandate — that disappoints the governing body for the sport the most. Expressed Coyne:
“US Lacrosse had no input into this decision. We were afforded very little time to talk or present on the subject other than within the operation committee. We were not consulted previous to this meeting. I had a single conversation with Alex Ozuna in which I laid out what US Lacrosse has been doing in women’s game safety and the head gear standard. He was very understanding of where we were and asked Bruce [Griffin; US Lacrosse’s Health & Safety Director] and I to come to attend the meeting to present that to the committee — which we did; but, we were not afforded that some opportunity at the board level. A discussion was limited to 20 minutes. It was taken up mostly by the [board member] who proposed the mandate. It seemed as if the members of the board had no interest in hearing what we had to say, which is disappointing.
…We honestly believe that players who want additional protection should be able to wear it — it’s our intention to make that standard optional. We understand that there will be state associations that want to mandate it and, in this case, we were hoping to work with the FHSAA… There is nothing out there that is designed for the women’s game and I see a tremendous amount of liability for that association should they provide some type of head gear for the girls not designed for the game and a young woman is to be injured. I would imagine that that would create a very interesting situation for them.”
With Florida mandating all girls lacrosse players to ware helmets, does anyone think any team outside of Florida will be willing to play Florida's teams.
First I've heard of this. Tell me more.
It's not finalized yet!!! It's a stupid rule
why are they not mandating that girls soccer players where helmets? There is a higher rate of concussion in that sport.
http://www.change.org/petitions/flo...um=twitter&utm_source=share_petitionThis link is to a petition that you can sign that a high school girl in florida started to repeal the helmet decision. Get involved!
Are Under Armour girls results posted yet?
Are Under Armour girls results posted yet?
Weren't they supposed to be posted within 48 hours of the tryout?
Are Under Armour girls results posted yet?
Weren't they supposed to be posted within 48 hours of the tryout?
The rosters were made a couple weeks ago, should be announced any day now.
Are Under Armour girls results posted yet?
Weren't they supposed to be posted within 48 hours of the tryout?
The rosters were made a couple weeks ago, should be announced any day now.
player 1 to 20 YJ
player 21, 22 TG
player 23 Liberty
player 24 Express
Some of the All American selections this year? Wont name names but we all know. 29 goals? Ridiculous. Carol Rose as the former chair of the US Lacrosse All American Selection Committee possibly affecting that selection? Among others? What's going on here for all these years is disgusting. It's time for a change. Email US Lacrosse acarpenetti@uslacrosse.org and tell them. Email LIMLF at ajrit5@aol.com and tell them that your sick and tired of the coercion and political favoritism taking place on LI.
From Inside Lacrosse
It’s official: helmets have been mandated in the state of Florida.
On June 10, the Florida High School Athletic Association ruled that all participating members of the FHSAA will have to wear helmets in 2015. These participating FHSAA programs will be the only teams in the nation state-mandated to wear this form of protective head gear.
“The board did vote on mandating a helmet for the 2015 season,” Alex Ozuna, an Assistant Director of Athletics and the lacrosse administrator for the Florida High School Athletic Association, confirmed Wednesday. “A board member brought up this recommendation to the board for an action item. It was discussed during the operations committee, and we had individuals from US Lacrosse present to kind of give the committee a background on where they currently are in the process of standardizing specifications for a soft helmet for the girl’s game.”
Ozuna continued: “The item was taken to the Board of Directors. The whole entire board reviewed and took into account what was said by the individuals from US Lacrosse and decided that because it is a major safety issue in our state — they took into account how long the process has been for US Lacrosse to get to this point — and moving forward that they wanted to go ahead and take the steps now instead of having to wait one, two, possibly three years for an actual product with the specific standardize specifications that US Lacrosse was going to implement.”
Melissa Coyne, the Women’s Game Director at US Lacrosse, was one of two US Lacrosse representatives present at the FHSAA board meeting and was disappointed in the decision to mandate helmets in a sport that has no standard or definition for what a women’s lacrosse helmet is. “The mandate is very vague. Just simply, that they would mandate women’s lacrosse players to wear a helmet. They did not indicate at any point during that meeting what that would be.”
Coyne continued, “Obviously, that caused concern amongst a lot of members attending the meeting and for US Lacrosse, as well. I find it to be extremely irresponsible for any governing body to suggest an equipment intervention that has not been tested for nor is relevant in the game it’s going to be used… I’m disappointed they would make such a short-sighted and vague mandate.”
The decision comes at a time that many close to the sport have advocated that player safety calls for head protection and that helmets are a necessary leap to ensure that all participants are out of harm’s way as it pertains to concussions and head trauma injuries. However, many others have jumped on the opposition’s side of the argument: mandating helmets in the women’s game will only make matters worse.
The NCAA Committee on Competitive Safeguards and Medical Aspects of Sports is among them.
In a position statement dated December 2013, the NCAA addressed misperceptions regarding helmets and their prevention of concussions among student-athletes. “It should be noted that there is no helmet that can prevent a concussion,” the statement reads before touching base on what many have argued the premiere reason against helmets in women’s lacrosse: putting helmets on female players will only make the game more physical. The statement reads:
“When considering the use of this optional equipment during practice or permitted competition, athletes and coaches should take the time to read the qualifying statements provided with such a product addressing its limitations, particularly to prevent serious head injuries. Wearing such a device may provide a false sense of security in the area of concussion protection by the player, their coaches and their parents. In addition, placing headgear on a student-athlete may indirectly justify striking them in the head by opponents, especially in sports where this has never been the intent (for example, soccer, basketball, women’s lacrosse).
Moreover, a false sense of security in the area of concussion protection increases the likelihood that players, coaches, and parents will consider the medical condition to be adequately addressed and may place less importance upon avoiding head impact, reporting concussion symptoms, and returning to play prior to full recovery following a concussion.”
Also among those in favor of keeping the game helmet-free, the FHSAA girls lacrosse advisory panel comprising high school coaches within the FHSAA schools and an official. “The vote was strictly just the board members of the Florida High School Athletic Association. This topic was presented to our girls lacrosse advisory panel,” Ozuna said of the board’s vote against the advisory committee’s decision. “The panel did turn down this request to mandate helmets — so, they denied the recommendation; but, this recommendation was brought up by a board member at our board meeting and that’s what was voted on.”
In a historic move for the sport of women’s lacrosse, the decision made by the FHSAA already has the lacrosse community abuzz with questions: What were the factors behind this decision? Will this impact participation numbers in the country’s fastest-growing sport?
But, namely, the initial reaction has been: What type of helmet will be worn by these players?
The FHSAA cannot answer that question right now.
“The vote happened yesterday (Tuesday), so as a staff right now we’re just looking into a number of different things. We’re not quite sure where we’re going quite yet,” Ozuna said in regard to what type of helmet will be worn since no equipment provider in the sport offers a women’s lacrosse helmet, nor has US Lacrosse announced specification standards for what a women’s lacrosse helmet should be. "It’s a little premature to kind of guess where we’re going to go — whether it’s a soft or hard. If it’s a soft helmet, which helmet would it be? We’re not there yet. We’re looking into it.”
It is with that decision — that there has been no specific piece of equipment taken into account with this mandate — that disappoints the governing body for the sport the most. Expressed Coyne:
“US Lacrosse had no input into this decision. We were afforded very little time to talk or present on the subject other than within the operation committee. We were not consulted previous to this meeting. I had a single conversation with Alex Ozuna in which I laid out what US Lacrosse has been doing in women’s game safety and the head gear standard. He was very understanding of where we were and asked Bruce [Griffin; US Lacrosse’s Health & Safety Director] and I to come to attend the meeting to present that to the committee — which we did; but, we were not afforded that some opportunity at the board level. A discussion was limited to 20 minutes. It was taken up mostly by the [board member] who proposed the mandate. It seemed as if the members of the board had no interest in hearing what we had to say, which is disappointing.
…We honestly believe that players who want additional protection should be able to wear it — it’s our intention to make that standard optional. We understand that there will be state associations that want to mandate it and, in this case, we were hoping to work with the FHSAA… There is nothing out there that is designed for the women’s game and I see a tremendous amount of liability for that association should they provide some type of head gear for the girls not designed for the game and a young woman is to be injured. I would imagine that that would create a very interesting situation for them.”
Is US Lacrosse the "National Body" or just an organization in the sport. I didn't think they (USL) had any jurisdiction on the sport and what HS do; they suggest that is all.
It is the purely each states decision on what they will do.
Some of the All American selections this year? Wont name names but we all know. 29 goals? Ridiculous. Carol Rose as the former chair of the US Lacrosse All American Selection Committee possibly affecting that selection? Among others? What's going on here for all these years is disgusting. It's time for a change. Email US Lacrosse acarpenetti@uslacrosse.org and tell them. Email LIMLF at ajrit5@aol.com and tell them that your sick and tired of the coercion and political favoritism taking place on LI.
Did someone's daughter not get all American and now daddy's panties are in a bunch!!!
Some of the All American selections this year? Wont name names but we all know. 29 goals? Ridiculous. Carol Rose as the former chair of the US Lacrosse All American Selection Committee possibly affecting that selection? Among others? What's going on here for all these years is disgusting. It's time for a change. Email US Lacrosse acarpenetti@uslacrosse.org and tell them. Email LIMLF at ajrit5@aol.com and tell them that your sick and tired of the coercion and political favoritism taking place on LI.
Did someone's daughter not get all American and now daddy's panties are in a bunch!!!
No not at all. The kids who don't deserve it but get it anyway pisses me and a lot of others off. It's obvious and finally going to end.
You still didn't explain how a kid with 29G 10A wins All American over the Bellport kid with 77 goals and 20 assists? Bell port kid plus SC Allstars not YJ. I'm waiting for the explanation.
Some of the All American selections this year? Wont name names but we all know. 29 goals? Ridiculous. Carol Rose as the former chair of the US Lacrosse All American Selection Committee possibly affecting that selection? Among others? What's going on here for all these years is disgusting. It's time for a change. Email US Lacrosse acarpenetti@uslacrosse.org and tell them. Email LIMLF at ajrit5@aol.com and tell them that your sick and tired of the coercion and political favoritism taking place on LI.
Did someone's daughter not get all American and now daddy's panties are in a bunch!!!
No not at all. The kids who don't deserve it but get it anyway pisses me and a lot of others off. It's obvious and finally going to end.
You still didn't explain how a kid with 29G 10A wins All American over the Bellport kid with 77 goals and 20 assists? Bell port kid plus SC Allstars not YJ. I'm waiting for the explanation.
How much did HS Coach Fight for Girl, did Coach put her in for consideration before season started, How well does Coach get along with others Coaches. Also Scoring a lot of goals does make you an All American
Some of the All American selections this year? Wont name names but we all know. 29 goals? Ridiculous. Carol Rose as the former chair of the US Lacrosse All American Selection Committee possibly affecting that selection? Among others? What's going on here for all these years is disgusting. It's time for a change. Email US Lacrosse acarpenetti@uslacrosse.org and tell them. Email LIMLF at ajrit5@aol.com and tell them that your sick and tired of the coercion and political favoritism taking place on LI.
Did someone's daughter not get all American and now daddy's panties are in a bunch!!!
No not at all. The kids who don't deserve it but get it anyway pisses me and a lot of others off. It's obvious and finally going to end.
You still didn't explain how a kid with 29G 10A wins All American over the Bellport kid with 77 goals and 20 assists? Bell port kid plus SC Allstars not YJ. I'm waiting for the explanation.
How much did HS Coach Fight for Girl, did Coach put her in for consideration before season started, How well does Coach get along with others Coaches. Also Scoring a lot of goals does make you an All American
So it's not your performance or ability but how much influence your coach has? MY POINT EXACTLY! It should be about the kids not the coach.
Some of the All American selections this year? Wont name names but we all know. 29 goals? Ridiculous. Carol Rose as the former chair of the US Lacrosse All American Selection Committee possibly affecting that selection? Among others? What's going on here for all these years is disgusting. It's time for a change. Email US Lacrosse acarpenetti@uslacrosse.org and tell them. Email LIMLF at ajrit5@aol.com and tell them that your sick and tired of the coercion and political favoritism taking place on LI.
Did someone's daughter not get all American and now daddy's panties are in a bunch!!!
No not at all. The kids who don't deserve it but get it anyway pisses me and a lot of others off. It's obvious and finally going to end.
You still didn't explain how a kid with 29G 10A wins All American over the Bellport kid with 77 goals and 20 assists? Bell port kid plus SC Allstars not YJ. I'm waiting for the explanation.
How much did HS Coach Fight for Girl, did Coach put her in for consideration before season started, How well does Coach get along with others Coaches. Also Scoring a lot of goals does make you an All American
F&F even in this, you wonder why everyone kisses that big [lacrosse]? Here is another example just like the Brine and Under Arm teams and the placement and seedings she gets at tournaments when she brings 30 teams. Good to be king and for anyone not on the top blue team you should stop feeding the money monster.
Some of the All American selections this year? Wont name names but we all know. 29 goals? Ridiculous. Carol Rose as the former chair of the US Lacrosse All American Selection Committee possibly affecting that selection? Among others? What's going on here for all these years is disgusting. It's time for a change. Email US Lacrosse acarpenetti@uslacrosse.org and tell them. Email LIMLF at ajrit5@aol.com and tell them that your sick and tired of the coercion and political favoritism taking place on LI.
Did someone's daughter not get all American and now daddy's panties are in a bunch!!!
No not at all. The kids who don't deserve it but get it anyway pisses me and a lot of others off. It's obvious and finally going to end.
You still didn't explain how a kid with 29G 10A wins All American over the Bellport kid with 77 goals and 20 assists? Bell port kid plus SC Allstars not YJ. I'm waiting for the explanation.
Is this serious, no offense but not even sure which Bellport kid you are talking about and if you are going to use stats to pick AA then the kid you are talking about is down on the list behind many YJ kids that did not get AA. While I agree many more deserving kids than who you are talking about but I do not see you complaining about the non YJ kid whos numbers are not very good either.
You're complaining someone didn't have enough goals to be deserving of AA? What about the defenders who don't score goals or the midfielders? In your mind it's the number of goals that makes an AA? Seriously? It's amazing the amount of cry babies that post here.
You're complaining someone didn't have enough goals to be deserving of AA? What about the defenders who don't score goals or the midfielders? In your mind it's the number of goals that makes an AA? Seriously? It's amazing the amount of cry babies that post here.
Amen! No one is winning any game without defense, and yet everyone from Newsday, to awards, to select tryouts, overlooks these players.
Some of the All American selections this year? Wont name names but we all know. 29 goals? Ridiculous. Carol Rose as the former chair of the US Lacrosse All American Selection Committee possibly affecting that selection? Among others? What's going on here for all these years is disgusting. It's time for a change. Email US Lacrosse acarpenetti@uslacrosse.org and tell them. Email LIMLF at ajrit5@aol.com and tell them that your sick and tired of the coercion and political favoritism taking place on LI.
Did someone's daughter not get all American and now daddy's panties are in a bunch!!!
No not at all. The kids who don't deserve it but get it anyway pisses me and a lot of others off. It's obvious and finally going to end.
You still didn't explain how a kid with 29G 10A wins All American over the Bellport kid with 77 goals and 20 assists? Bell port kid plus SC Allstars not YJ. I'm waiting for the explanation.
Is this serious, no offense but not even sure which Bellport kid you are talking about and if you are going to use stats to pick AA then the kid you are talking about is down on the list behind many YJ kids that did not get AA. While I agree many more deserving kids than who you are talking about but I do not see you complaining about the non YJ kid whos numbers are not very good either.
Honestly you people are clueless. Stats? points? really? That's what you think makes you worthy of AA? Let me get this straight. If you are a great Player on a great team who plays the best competition and you run the score up, you and your team are lambasted for poor sportsmanship, But you will have great stats. If the coach doesn't run up the score and takes said great player out or makes sure everyone gets a chance to score, the great player isn't worthy because she doesn't have great stats. The kid on a below average team, who plays poor competition(i.e. Bellport) is able to rack up the points against one of the weakest schedules in the division is more worthy? Look at the kids who made AA, their best games weren't against weak competition. In addition the better teams usually have more players who can score therefore even the best player won't get all that many scoring opportunities. None of this even takes into account the defensive side of the ball, which btw is REALLY important! Nice try though!!!!
The stats are BS --coaches put down what they want to satisfy theier's favorites!!! Or who's parents suck up or pays the most!
Some of the All American selections this year? Wont name names but we all know. 29 goals? Ridiculous. Carol Rose as the former chair of the US Lacrosse All American Selection Committee possibly affecting that selection? Among others? What's going on here for all these years is disgusting. It's time for a change. Email US Lacrosse acarpenetti@uslacrosse.org and tell them. Email LIMLF at ajrit5@aol.com and tell them that your sick and tired of the coercion and political favoritism taking place on LI.
Did someone's daughter not get all American and now daddy's panties are in a bunch!!!
No not at all. The kids who don't deserve it but get it anyway pisses me and a lot of others off. It's obvious and finally going to end.
You still didn't explain how a kid with 29G 10A wins All American over the Bellport kid with 77 goals and 20 assists? Bell port kid plus SC Allstars not YJ. I'm waiting for the explanation.
Is this serious, no offense but not even sure which Bellport kid you are talking about and if you are going to use stats to pick AA then the kid you are talking about is down on the list behind many YJ kids that did not get AA. While I agree many more deserving kids than who you are talking about but I do not see you complaining about the non YJ kid whos numbers are not very good either.
Honestly you people are clueless. Stats? points? really? That's what you think makes you worthy of AA? Let me get this straight. If you are a great Player on a great team who plays the best competition and you run the score up, you and your team are lambasted for poor sportsmanship, But you will have great stats. If the coach doesn't run up the score and takes said great player out or makes sure everyone gets a chance to score, the great player isn't worthy because she doesn't have great stats. The kid on a below average team, who plays poor competition(i.e. Bellport) is able to rack up the points against one of the weakest schedules in the division is more worthy? Look at the kids who made AA, their best games weren't against weak competition. In addition the better teams usually have more players who can score therefore even the best player won't get all that many scoring opportunities. None of this even takes into account the defensive side of the ball, which btw is REALLY important! Nice try though!!!!
come on man .....any girl on belport should have to score 1000 goals to make AA with the schedule they play..... they play nobody.. and if she is that good , how come they havent made the playoffs her entire career
Some of the All American selections this year? Wont name names but we all know. 29 goals? Ridiculous. Carol Rose as the former chair of the US Lacrosse All American Selection Committee possibly affecting that selection? Among others? What's going on here for all these years is disgusting. It's time for a change. Email US Lacrosse acarpenetti@uslacrosse.org and tell them. Email LIMLF at ajrit5@aol.com and tell them that your sick and tired of the coercion and political favoritism taking place on LI.
Did someone's daughter not get all American and now daddy's panties are in a bunch!!!
No not at all. The kids who don't deserve it but get it anyway pisses me and a lot of others off. It's obvious and finally going to end.
You still didn't explain how a kid with 29G 10A wins All American over the Bellport kid with 77 goals and 20 assists? Bell port kid plus SC Allstars not YJ. I'm waiting for the explanation.
Is this serious, no offense but not even sure which Bellport kid you are talking about and if you are going to use stats to pick AA then the kid you are talking about is down on the list behind many YJ kids that did not get AA. While I agree many more deserving kids than who you are talking about but I do not see you complaining about the non YJ kid whos numbers are not very good either.
Honestly you people are clueless. Stats? points? really? That's what you think makes you worthy of AA? Let me get this straight. If you are a great Player on a great team who plays the best competition and you run the score up, you and your team are lambasted for poor sportsmanship, But you will have great stats. If the coach doesn't run up the score and takes said great player out or makes sure everyone gets a chance to score, the great player isn't worthy because she doesn't have great stats. The kid on a below average team, who plays poor competition(i.e. Bellport) is able to rack up the points against one of the weakest schedules in the division is more worthy? Look at the kids who made AA, their best games weren't against weak competition. In addition the better teams usually have more players who can score therefore even the best player won't get all that many scoring opportunities. None of this even takes into account the defensive side of the ball, which btw is REALLY important! Nice try though!!!!
come on man .....any girl on belport should have to score 1000 goals to make AA with the schedule they play..... they play nobody.. and if she is that good , how come they havent made the playoffs her entire career
Bellport girl getting AA is more of a joke then this board sometimes!! Sorry!!
I think this thread was initially refering to the new "Long Island All American" game that looks to have almost every player on the '17 team(s) from YJ. I have 2 daughters, one plays offense, one defense. The offensive player is tall, solid and tough with excellent stas. The defensive player is slender, quicker and has better stick skills. Both will agree that the defense is rarely recognized, but then again your coach would have to actually keep stats of ground balls or turnovers.
Under Armour roster is up on the website, lots of deserving girls... Definitely a few questionable selections.. 3 goalies btw.. Never saw that before..
Under Armour roster is up on the website, lots of deserving girls... Definitely a few questionable selections.. 3 goalies btw.. Never saw that before..
Roster has 25 girls. Not 24 as it's supposed to.
Under Armour roster is up on the website, lots of deserving girls... Definitely a few questionable selections.. 3 goalies btw.. Never saw that before..
Roster has 25 girls. Not 24 as it's supposed to.
3 Goalies = Politics every other team has 24 players, why 25?
Under Armour roster is up on the website, lots of deserving girls... Definitely a few questionable selections.. 3 goalies btw.. Never saw that before..
Roster has 25 girls. Not 24 as it's supposed to.
3 Goalies = Politics every other team has 24 players, why 25?
Well...you have the two goalies from last years team and now a third. There you have it.
Under Armour roster is up on the website, lots of deserving girls... Definitely a few questionable selections.. 3 goalies btw.. Never saw that before..
Roster has 25 girls. Not 24 as it's supposed to.
3 Goalies = Politics every other team has 24 players, why 25?
Well...you have the two goalies from last years team and now a third. There you have it.
Then lets throw in another Defender, Midfielder an Attack to bring it up to 28
You can say this after every tryout!!
Good Luck Long Island!!
If I am correct we heard the same thing after the School Girls tryouts and that worked out fine!!
You can say this after every tryout!!
Good Luck Long Island!!
If I am correct we heard the same thing after the School Girls tryouts and that worked out fine!!
No one said the girls picked can't play, but some of those left out might be better..
You can say this after every tryout!!
Good Luck Long Island!!
If I am correct we heard the same thing after the School Girls tryouts and that worked out fine!!
Re: School Girls, four Girls from Team 1 didn't make UA and six Girls from Team 2 did.. Did school Girls get it wrong or does CR have more pull at UA
You can say this after every tryout!!
Good Luck Long Island!!
If I am correct we heard the same thing after the School Girls tryouts and that worked out fine!!
Re: School Girls, four Girls from Team 1 didn't make UA and six Girls from Team 2 did.. Did school Girls get it wrong or does CR have more pull at UA
It's simple. Head coach of UA, Carol Rose (Yellow Jacket owner)
Assistant coach of UA, Tracy Weiner (Yellow Jacket)
New addition, coach of UA (St Anthony's and now YJ)
Even the Carol supporters will have to see how ridiculous and unbalanced this is. It's supposed to be about the kids but it never has been. Instead of praising Carol, you all may want to see how many kids spirits she has squashed over the years. For those who recite her players accomplishments please remember it's the players accomplishments not Carol Roses. She was also the only game in town for a long time and now that there is competition she needs to fix rosters and manipulate awards to achieve the perceived success she is accustomed to. I for one feel sorry for her for being so shallow and I feel sorry for the ones who refuse to see through the facade. Carol and Tracy, you no longer get a pass for your roster fixing and your lying and your amazing lack of INTEGRITY. Hurting kids by lying and conspiring to advance your favorites disrespects most of the others in your club that are passed over.
You can say this after every tryout!!
Good Luck Long Island!!
If I am correct we heard the same thing after the School Girls tryouts and that worked out fine!!
It's simple. Head coach of UA, Carol Rose (Yellow Jacket owner)
Assistant coach of UA, Tracy Weiner (Yellow Jacket)
New addition, coach of UA (St Anthony's and now YJ)
Even the Carol supporters will have to see how ridiculous and unbalanced this is. It's supposed to be about the kids but it never has been. Instead of praising Carol, you all may want to see how many kids spirits she has squashed over the years. For those who recite her players accomplishments please remember it's the players accomplishments not Carol Roses. She was also the only game in town for a long time and now that there is competition she needs to fix rosters and manipulate awards to achieve the perceived success she is accustomed to. I for one feel sorry for her for being so shallow and I feel sorry for the ones who refuse to see through the facade. Carol and Tracy, you no longer get a pass for your roster fixing and your lying and your amazing lack of INTEGRITY. Hurting kids by lying and conspiring to advance your favorites disrespects most of the others in your club that are passed over.
Re: School Girls, four Girls from Team 1 didn't make UA and six Girls from Team 2 did.. Did school Girls get it wrong or does CR have more pull at UA
It's really not simple at all if you look at the 4 kids who are not on the roster and the fact that there were only 20 spots on school girls team 1. One Very good Liberty kid did not try out for UA (was a no brainer who would have made it). Another YJ who was on the UA team last year, broke her hand (she was a no brainer). So you had 2 sophomores who are very good players(not no brainers) who didn't make the team. I think the question really is about which team 2 kids they picked. It was puzzling that some very good YJ 2015's got passed over.
As far as the YJ bias, The school girls tryout had 3 YJ evaluators and 8 non-YJ evaluators (seemed pretty fair), with Top Gun, Liberty and 91/Allstars among others represented as well. So if 16 kids were picked who were on the school girls team 1 and 6 kids from team 2, then you really can't argue with the majority of the selections. Maybe from who tried out (many very good players didn't) the best players were mostly YJ?
Like you said for a long time YJ was clearly the place where the best players played! I think the current pool of players for this tryout is on the tail end of that and in the future you will see more diversity in the selection, because it will warrant it. For now, who is that non YJ player that was clearly overlooked? I just don't see it.
Excellent post , you can add to your list a TG kid who was on schoolgirls team 1 and elected to not try out for UA. The UA team actually looks very similar to school girls . Again who are these non YJ kids that got overlooked that actually went to the tryouts .
Are any TG Girls on the LI All American team? There were a handful who were on their varsity teams that actually played as soph and freshmen, or the coaches still deciding?
[quote=Anonymous]Excellent post , you can add to your list a TG kid who was on schoolgirls team 1 and elected to not try out for UA. The UA team actually looks very similar to school girls . Again who are these non YJ kids that got overlooked that actually went to the tryouts.
If you think these tryouts we fair and there was no bias towards YJ Players go stick your head back in the sand.
Excellent post , you can add to your list a TG kid who was on schoolgirls team 1 and elected to not try out for UA. The UA team actually looks very similar to school girls . Again who are these non YJ kids that got overlooked that actually went to the tryouts .
There are several. BOTC has asked that the kids not be named. Rightfully so. With that being said it is silly to attemp to defend that there is an enormous bias when it comes to events that are run by Carol. It is so obvious and has been talked about for so long that kids don't even show up sometimes. That is an issue in itself and a bad by product of parents and coaches sitting back and allowing her reach to grow. Even if you want to defend her you will agree she has been dividing the LI lacrosse community and alienating LI from the rest of the country. For example the relationship between TG and Skywalkers and many other clubs verse the yellow jackets relationship with other clubs. Really look at the whole situation. It starts from the top and trickles down. It's about integrity. Or lack there of.
Are any TG Girls on the LI All American team? There were a handful who were on their varsity teams that actually played as soph and freshmen, or the coaches still deciding?
Levy and Apuzzo -not sure who else
Excellent post , you can add to your list a TG kid who was on schoolgirls team 1 and elected to not try out for UA. The UA team actually looks very similar to school girls . Again who are these non YJ kids that got overlooked that actually went to the tryouts .
There are several. BOTC has asked that the kids not be named. Rightfully so. With that being said it is silly to attemp to defend that there is an enormous bias when it comes to events that are run by Carol. It is so obvious and has been talked about for so long that kids don't even show up sometimes. That is an issue in itself and a bad by product of parents and coaches sitting back and allowing her reach to grow. Even if you want to defend her you will agree she has been dividing the LI lacrosse community and alienating LI from the rest of the country. For example the relationship between TG and Skywalkers and many other clubs verse the yellow jackets relationship with other clubs. Really look at the whole situation. It starts from the top and trickles down. It's about integrity. Or lack there of.
Here is where you get it wrong. People are not protecting the selectors. They are protecting the kids selected! When you say there was bias, you are saying some players are not worthy. People will take offense to that, just like you are taking offense to your daughter not being selected.
That being said there is always some bias that comes along with familiarity, but the top 15 or so would be the top 15 or so at any tryout or college recruiting list. That list includes YJ's, TG and Liberty kids. After that you will have a larger pool of players that could possibly fill the back part of the roster. That is where the bias may come in to play, but all the kids and a few more are worthy. If a player had that good of a tryout they would stick out 2 fields over just like those top 15 do. That is why the whole bias conspiracy theories don't go anywhere because that no brainer girl who got left off doesn't exist.
Excellent post , you can add to your list a TG kid who was on schoolgirls team 1 and elected to not try out for UA. The UA team actually looks very similar to school girls . Again who are these non YJ kids that got overlooked that actually went to the tryouts .
There are several. BOTC has asked that the kids not be named. Rightfully so. With that being said it is silly to attemp to defend that there is an enormous bias when it comes to events that are run by Carol. It is so obvious and has been talked about for so long that kids don't even show up sometimes. That is an issue in itself and a bad by product of parents and coaches sitting back and allowing her reach to grow. Even if you want to defend her you will agree she has been dividing the LI lacrosse community and alienating LI from the rest of the country. For example the relationship between TG and Skywalkers and many other clubs verse the yellow jackets relationship with other clubs. Really look at the whole situation. It starts from the top and trickles down. It's about integrity. Or lack there of.
Actually I think a lot of your issues are just simply a matter of your imagination. Alienating LI from the rest of the country just sounds ridiculous, and what relationship between skywalkers and Tg are you babbling about. How do you blame CR because TG kids do not show up because of a perceived bias. There are many kids who did not make UA who may have deserved it but I watched as much as I could and will tell you the kids that stood out in my daughters group made the team , my daughter did not. Your same logic can be applied to Shannon recruiting at Hofstra , are YJ parents calling the AD and whining like a bunch of babies that she only recruits TG kids ? No because they realize if you are good enough she will take you no matter what club you play for. Instead of naming names tell us what TG age group and what position got ripped.
Are any TG Girls on the LI All American team? There were a handful who were on their varsity teams that actually played as soph and freshmen, or the coaches still deciding?
Levy and Apuzzo -not sure who else
They have to put those two on as they are undeniable. Its those kids who are even talent that get looked away.
Excellent post , you can add to your list a TG kid who was on schoolgirls team 1 and elected to not try out for UA. The UA team actually looks very similar to school girls . Again who are these non YJ kids that got overlooked that actually went to the tryouts .
There are several. BOTC has asked that the kids not be named. Rightfully so. With that being said it is silly to attemp to defend that there is an enormous bias when it comes to events that are run by Carol. It is so obvious and has been talked about for so long that kids don't even show up sometimes. That is an issue in itself and a bad by product of parents and coaches sitting back and allowing her reach to grow. Even if you want to defend her you will agree she has been dividing the LI lacrosse community and alienating LI from the rest of the country. For example the relationship between TG and Skywalkers and many other clubs verse the yellow jackets relationship with other clubs. Really look at the whole situation. It starts from the top and trickles down. It's about integrity. Or lack there of.
Here is where you get it wrong. People are not protecting the selectors. They are protecting the kids selected! When you say there was bias, you are saying some players are not worthy. People will take offense to that, just like you are taking offense to your daughter not being selected.
That being said there is always some bias that comes along with familiarity, but the top 15 or so would be the top 15 or so at any tryout or college recruiting list. That list includes YJ's, TG and Liberty kids. After that you will have a larger pool of players that could possibly fill the back part of the roster. That is where the bias may come in to play, but all the kids and a few more are worthy. If a player had that good of a tryout they would stick out 2 fields over just like those top 15 do. That is why the whole bias conspiracy theories don't go anywhere because that no brainer girl who got left off doesn't exist.
I disagree.
First, How do you know a no brained was not left off. I'll go further and say even a YJ who doesn't suck up to Csrol WAS left off. The bias is now affecting YJ kids who don't "participate".
Second, your logic concerning the "top players" is a subjective list isn't it? Isn't that what tryouts are for? Further, using your logic UA should be by invite with the exception of the "back end" players. Who makes up the list of invited vs tryout kids. Carol? Your scenario is exactly where we are now sort of because SHE has a list of "top players" already picked and yes some are not deserving. That knowledge that the public has prevents kids from even showing up.
Lastly, the addition of a third goalie to the two returning kids from last year is an in your face move. It stinks of political patronage as the other two returners are unanimously the best in the state if not the country. Ask any coach (other than YJs Rose, Weiner and Ferraro).
The glaring example of the Y.J. bias is in the3rd goalie, To take her is a slap in the face to every other club. To be quite honest as far as goalies go, You can only make a case for the St. A. goalie for being among the best this year. The S.W.R goalie, though very good , was injured most of the year, and the E.S.M girl was clearly outplayed by a few this year most notably the goalie from Sayville. You might say that those three played better at the tryout, but lets be real, those girls were picked long before tryouts.
Excellent post , you can add to your list a TG kid who was on schoolgirls team 1 and elected to not try out for UA. The UA team actually looks very similar to school girls . Again who are these non YJ kids that got overlooked that actually went to the tryouts .
There are several. BOTC has asked that the kids not be named. Rightfully so. With that being said it is silly to attemp to defend that there is an enormous bias when it comes to events that are run by Carol. It is so obvious and has been talked about for so long that kids don't even show up sometimes. That is an issue in itself and a bad by product of parents and coaches sitting back and allowing her reach to grow. Even if you want to defend her you will agree she has been dividing the LI lacrosse community and alienating LI from the rest of the country. For example the relationship between TG and Skywalkers and many other clubs verse the yellow jackets relationship with other clubs. Really look at the whole situation. It starts from the top and trickles down. It's about integrity. Or lack there of.
Here is where you get it wrong. People are not protecting the selectors. They are protecting the kids selected! When you say there was bias, you are saying some players are not worthy. People will take offense to that, just like you are taking offense to your daughter not being selected.
That being said there is always some bias that comes along with familiarity, but the top 15 or so would be the top 15 or so at any tryout or college recruiting list. That list includes YJ's, TG and Liberty kids. After that you will have a larger pool of players that could possibly fill the back part of the roster. That is where the bias may come in to play, but all the kids and a few more are worthy. If a player had that good of a tryout they would stick out 2 fields over just like those top 15 do. That is why the whole bias conspiracy theories don't go anywhere because that no brainer girl who got left off doesn't exist.
I disagree.
First, How do you know a no brained was not left off. I'll go further and say even a YJ who doesn't suck up to Csrol WAS left off. The bias is now affecting YJ kids who don't "participate".
Second, your logic concerning the "top players" is a subjective list isn't it? Isn't that what tryouts are for? Further, using your logic UA should be by invite with the exception of the "back end" players. Who makes up the list of invited vs tryout kids. Carol? Your scenario is exactly where we are now sort of because SHE has a list of "top players" already picked and yes some are not deserving. That knowledge that the public has prevents kids from even showing up.
Lastly, the addition of a third goalie to the two returning kids from last year is an in your face move. It stinks of political patronage as the other two returners are unanimously the best in the state if not the country. Ask any coach (other than YJs Rose, Weiner and Ferraro).
unanimously the best in the state if not the country, says who ? I think there is better than both Y.J. goalies. It's you that sounds biased. Take off the gold and blue collared glasses
Here is where you get it wrong. People are not protecting the selectors. They are protecting the kids selected! When you say there was bias, you are saying some players are not worthy. People will take offense to that, just like you are taking offense to your daughter not being selected.
That being said there is always some bias that comes along with familiarity, but the top 15 or so would be the top 15 or so at any tryout or college recruiting list. That list includes YJ's, TG and Liberty kids. After that you will have a larger pool of players that could possibly fill the back part of the roster. That is where the bias may come in to play, but all the kids and a few more are worthy. If a player had that good of a tryout they would stick out 2 fields over just like those top 15 do. That is why the whole bias conspiracy theories don't go anywhere because that no brainer girl who got left off doesn't exist. [/quote]
I disagree.
First, How do you know a no brained was not left off. I'll go further and say even a YJ who doesn't suck up to Csrol WAS left off. The bias is now affecting YJ kids who don't "participate".
Second, your logic concerning the "top players" is a subjective list isn't it? Isn't that what tryouts are for? Further, using your logic UA should be by invite with the exception of the "back end" players. Who makes up the list of invited vs tryout kids. Carol? Your scenario is exactly where we are now sort of because SHE has a list of "top players" already picked and yes some are not deserving. That knowledge that the public has prevents kids from even showing up.
Lastly, the addition of a third goalie to the two returning kids from last year is an in your face move. It stinks of political patronage as the other two returners are unanimously the best in the state if not the country. Ask any coach (other than YJs Rose, Weiner and Ferraro).
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Here is where you look ridiculous, you want the team to be based on the tryouts yet you have decided who the goalies should be on past results. Again CR, TW were not at schoolgirls so how do explain those results. You sound like such a [lacrosse] when you imply only YJ players who suck up to CR make the team.Stop the whining , your kid did not make he team , so what .
The glaring example of the Y.J. bias is in the3rd goalie, To take her is a slap in the face to every other club. To be quite honest as far as goalies go, You can only make a case for the St. A. goalie for being among the best this year. The S.W.R goalie, though very good , was injured most of the year, and the E.S.M girl was clearly outplayed by a few this year most notably the goalie from Sayville. You might say that those three played better at the tryout, but lets be real, those girls were picked long before tryouts.
ESM goalie wasn't outplayed by the sayville goalie. It was ESM stagnant offense and Sayville's defense that determined that game. ESM lost two games this season-but they also gave up the least amount of goals-she deserves to be there.
The poster touting the St As goalie apparently didn't actually see any of the schoolgirls games. Obvious from those games the two returners are justified being on the UA team.
The glaring example of the Y.J. bias is in the3rd goalie, To take her is a slap in the face to every other club. To be quite honest as far as goalies go, You can only make a case for the St. A. goalie for being among the best this year. The S.W.R goalie, though very good , was injured most of the year, and the E.S.M girl was clearly outplayed by a few this year most notably the goalie from Sayville. You might say that those three played better at the tryout, but lets be real, those girls were picked long before tryouts.
ESM goalie wasn't outplayed by the sayville goalie. It was ESM stagnant offense and Sayville's defense that determined that game. ESM lost two games this season-but they also gave up the least amount of goals-she deserves to be there.
What about the goal from past the 12 meter mark and the other bad goal? That kid never gets taken to task for her poor play. If you win it's always because of her. If you lose it's because your team didn't play well. Gosh Mr G.
The poster touting the St As goalie apparently didn't actually see any of the schoolgirls games. Obvious from those games the two returners are justified being on the UA team.
You just don't get it. Do you want the picks to be based on past performance or on the tryout.
The glaring example of the Y.J. bias is in the3rd goalie, To take her is a slap in the face to every other club. To be quite honest as far as goalies go, You can only make a case for the St. A. goalie for being among the best this year. The S.W.R goalie, though very good , was injured most of the year, and the E.S.M girl was clearly outplayed by a few this year most notably the goalie from Sayville. You might say that those three played better at the tryout, but lets be real, those girls were picked long before tryouts.
ESM goalie wasn't outplayed by the sayville goalie. It was ESM stagnant offense and Sayville's defense that determined that game. ESM lost two games this season-but they also gave up the least amount of goals-she deserves to be there.
The pro-ESM goalie campaign on BOTC is a little bit awkward. That being said, I like many who post here witnessed that game and both goalies played well. I think the statistical edge favored the Sayville keeper. Stats certainly don't tell the story though. Sometimes the quality of the shots and saves and the goals given up is what counts, the basic eye test, Sayville keeper certainly gets the nod for that game.
Well probably a combo of both I guess. However if the St As kid just played poorly a week or so ago at an all star event, that should say something right. Didn't see it but heard about it.
The whole team is picked before tryouts! UA is no longer what it was years ago... Top players were taken... No politics
Well probably a combo of both I guess. However if the St As kid just played poorly a week or so ago at an all star event, that should say something right. Didn't see it but heard about it.
I am okay with that but then you will have a built in bias, obviously the evaluators have seen alot more of some kids than others. How bad could she have played her team won the whole thing and I believe she played half of every game.
The whole team is picked before tryouts! UA is no longer what it was years ago... Top players were taken... No politics
If you want to see see first hand about BIAS just listen to Mike Quick and Raff from MSG interview Tracy Weiner for the MSG All Metro Team - they actually discuss how Carol, Tracy and Raff go into a board room to pick this team and how Tracy has to tell Raff who the best players are "because he thinks he knows what he is doing after 4 years."
http://www.msgvarsity.com/long-isla...158?localLinksEnabled=false&mode=wwwSo a reporter who is unbiased needs to be told who the best players are by a YJ director?
Don't get anyone started on the bias of MSG network, would love to see the connections which people have with that network. Thank God it is off the air. The nepotism on LI as far as HS sports is concerned has hurt more potential college athletes than any other part of the country. People on LI are really clueless how college recruiting is done today.
The whole team is picked before tryouts! UA is no longer what it was years ago... Top players were taken... No politics
If you want to see see first hand about BIAS just listen to Mike Quick and Raff from MSG interview Tracy Weiner for the MSG All Metro Team - they actually discuss how Carol, Tracy and Raff go into a board room to pick this team and how Tracy has to tell Raff who the best players are "because he thinks he knows what he is doing after 4 years."
http://www.msgvarsity.com/long-isla...158?localLinksEnabled=false&mode=wwwSo a reporter who is unbiased needs to be told who the best players are by a YJ director?
Such a joke watching the first few minutes. I wonder if another girl's club in CT, NY or NJ gets mentioned like the YJ's do. Such Bias. Weiner talks about "her girls" who don;t play for her at Farmingdale. If you are doing this for MSG, at least act like a real analyst and not a YJ Director.
Yes there is one on Monday Nights. Very competitive play. BDlax.com
Don't get anyone started on the bias of MSG network, would love to see the connections which people have with that network. Thank God it is off the air. The nepotism on LI as far as HS sports is concerned has hurt more potential college athletes than any other part of the country. People on LI are really clueless how college recruiting is done today.
Farmingdale goalie is the best goalie in the metro area? She's not the best goalie on Long Island.
The whole team is picked before tryouts! UA is no longer what it was years ago... Top players were taken... No politics
If you want to see see first hand about BIAS just listen to Mike Quick and Raff from MSG interview Tracy Weiner for the MSG All Metro Team - they actually discuss how Carol, Tracy and Raff go into a board room to pick this team and how Tracy has to tell Raff who the best players are "because he thinks he knows what he is doing after 4 years."
http://www.msgvarsity.com/long-isla...158?localLinksEnabled=false&mode=wwwSo a reporter who is unbiased needs to be told who the best players are by a YJ director?
Such a joke watching the first few minutes. I wonder if another girl's club in CT, NY or NJ gets mentioned like the YJ's do. Such Bias. Weiner talks about "her girls" who don;t play for her at Farmingdale. If you are doing this for MSG, at least act like a real analyst and not a YJ Director.
Thank you! Post is dead on. She should not be on tv covering girls lax. It's like CNN reporting on Obama. Crazy.
http://www.msgvarsity.com/long-isla...158?localLinksEnabled=false&mode=wwwWhat a ridiculous Yellow Jacket love festival. MSG should be embarrassed. Way to go guys. Your credibility just left the building. As did your integrity. It's all coming to an end... finally!!
The whole team is picked before tryouts! UA is no longer what it was years ago... Top players were taken... No politics
If you want to see see first hand about BIAS just listen to Mike Quick and Raff from MSG interview Tracy Weiner for the MSG All Metro Team - they actually discuss how Carol, Tracy and Raff go into a board room to pick this team and how Tracy has to tell Raff who the best players are "because he thinks he knows what he is doing after 4 years."
http://www.msgvarsity.com/long-isla...158?localLinksEnabled=false&mode=wwwSo a reporter who is unbiased needs to be told who the best players are by a YJ director?
Such a joke watching the first few minutes. I wonder if another girl's club in CT, NY or NJ gets mentioned like the YJ's do. Such Bias. Weiner talks about "her girls" who don;t play for her at Farmingdale. If you are doing this for MSG, at least act like a real analyst and not a YJ Director.
Thank you! Post is dead on. She should not be on tv covering girls lax. It's like CNN reporting on Obama. Crazy.
Crazy? The only thing crazy is you! Get a grip! It's a TV show on HS girls Lax. It is for entertainment purposes! It isn't even aired on TV. The only people who watch it are people who have daughters playing! Do you actually let their selections bother you? oh the injustice!!! lol Let it go, it doesn't mean anything! It doesn't make your daughter any better or worse!
The whole team is picked before tryouts! UA is no longer what it was years ago... Top players were taken... No politics
If you want to see see first hand about BIAS just listen to Mike Quick and Raff from MSG interview Tracy Weiner for the MSG All Metro Team - they actually discuss how Carol, Tracy and Raff go into a board room to pick this team and how Tracy has to tell Raff who the best players are "because he thinks he knows what he is doing after 4 years."
http://www.msgvarsity.com/long-isla...158?localLinksEnabled=false&mode=wwwSo a reporter who is unbiased needs to be told who the best players are by a YJ director?
If the selectors were really being bias, why aren't there any Northport or Farmingdale girls on the UA team?
The whole team is picked before tryouts! UA is no longer what it was years ago... Top players were taken... No politics
If you want to see see first hand about BIAS just listen to Mike Quick and Raff from MSG interview Tracy Weiner for the MSG All Metro Team - they actually discuss how Carol, Tracy and Raff go into a board room to pick this team and how Tracy has to tell Raff who the best players are "because he thinks he knows what he is doing after 4 years."
http://www.msgvarsity.com/long-isla...158?localLinksEnabled=false&mode=wwwSo a reporter who is unbiased needs to be told who the best players are by a YJ director?
Such a joke watching the first few minutes. I wonder if another girl's club in CT, NY or NJ gets mentioned like the YJ's do. Such Bias. Weiner talks about "her girls" who don;t play for her at Farmingdale. If you are doing this for MSG, at least act like a real analyst and not a YJ Director.
Thank you! Post is dead on. She should not be on tv covering girls lax. It's like CNN reporting on Obama. Crazy.
Crazy? The only thing crazy is you! Get a grip! It's a TV show on HS girls Lax. It is for entertainment purposes! It isn't even aired on TV. The only people who watch it are people who have daughters playing! Do you actually let their selections bother you? oh the injustice!!! lol Let it go, it doesn't mean anything! It doesn't make your daughter any better or worse!
I agree let it go. If you watched the entire show they weren't all YJ players and not all TW players either. She had an All American from her team only get honorable mention. TW knows lax, knows stats and knows the girls bc she's out there and pays attention. All these girls are very deserving I know a few of them and NO my daughter is not one
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
And BBP moving up. Definitely the primo Division.
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
Heard it is True for WB do not know about others
EI, WB and Hauppauge in B Division.. go to sectionxi.org click on sports placements click on spring leagues, scroll to bottom for 2014/2015 year
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
And BBP moving up. Definitely the primo Division.
BBP not moving ....... all others are the same
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
And BBP moving up. Definitely the primo Division.
BBP not moving ....... all others are the same
It will be interesting in the long run how Long Islands fares as developing top class lacrosse players. Every projection shows a fairly dramatic decrease in student enrollment in the next 10-15 years (which is why districts are dealing with lower school aid). There will be significant increases in hispanic students, but to date lacrosse has not been embraced by this group.
Maryland enrollment looks to be increasing, albeit at a low rate. The growth of the sport looks to the southeast US.
Demographics will play a big role in the future of the sport. A study by US Lacrosse has shown that LI is producing less impact players than just five years ago. It is something that will have to be discussed.
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
And BBP moving up. Definitely the primo Division.
BBP not moving ....... all others are the same
It will be interesting in the long run how Long Islands fares as developing top class lacrosse players. Every projection shows a fairly dramatic decrease in student enrollment in the next 10-15 years (which is why districts are dealing with lower school aid). There will be significant increases in hispanic students, but to date lacrosse has not been embraced by this group.
Maryland enrollment looks to be increasing, albeit at a low rate. The growth of the sport looks to the southeast US.
Demographics will play a big role in the future of the sport. A study by US Lacrosse has shown that LI is producing less impact players than just five years ago. It is something that will have to be discussed.
Don't dispute the demographics, but will have to call BS on the US Lacrosse study evaluating "impact players" from any region. Why would US Lacrosse care where "impact Players" came from anyhow and commission a study on this. They want the sport to grow nationally and don't care if the top players come from Sheboygen or Shoreham. If there is such a study done by US Lacrosse, please share the specific citation/link with the rest of us.
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
And BBP moving up. Definitely the primo Division.
BBP not moving ....... all others are the same
It will be interesting in the long run how Long Islands fares as developing top class lacrosse players. Every projection shows a fairly dramatic decrease in student enrollment in the next 10-15 years (which is why districts are dealing with lower school aid). There will be significant increases in hispanic students, but to date lacrosse has not been embraced by this group.
Maryland enrollment looks to be increasing, albeit at a low rate. The growth of the sport looks to the southeast US.
Demographics will play a big role in the future of the sport. A study by US Lacrosse has shown that LI is producing less impact players than just five years ago. It is something that will have to be discussed.
Don't dispute the demographics, but will have to call BS on the US Lacrosse study evaluating "impact players" from any region. Why would US Lacrosse care where "impact Players" came from anyhow and commission a study on this. They want the sport to grow nationally and don't care if the top players come from Sheboygen or Shoreham. If there is such a study done by US Lacrosse, please share the specific citation/link with the rest of us.
The study was in-house and discussed at US Lacrosse meetings held in the fall. It was broken down by region to show the growth in lacrosse nationwide and Long Island was shown as area that did not supply as many "impact" players based on stats five years prior. I agree they do not care where good players come from but other regions, particularly Maryland, have grown "impact" players. Impact players are player that start 75% of games for at least three years. It is of interesting note that Long Island players also have a high percentage of severe injury as compared to the rest of the country.
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
And BBP moving up. Definitely the primo Division.
BBP not moving ....... all others are the same
It will be interesting in the long run how Long Islands fares as developing top class lacrosse players. Every projection shows a fairly dramatic decrease in student enrollment in the next 10-15 years (which is why districts are dealing with lower school aid). There will be significant increases in hispanic students, but to date lacrosse has not been embraced by this group.
Maryland enrollment looks to be increasing, albeit at a low rate. The growth of the sport looks to the southeast US.
Demographics will play a big role in the future of the sport. A study by US Lacrosse has shown that LI is producing less impact players than just five years ago. It is something that will have to be discussed.
Don't dispute the demographics, but will have to call BS on the US Lacrosse study evaluating "impact players" from any region. Why would US Lacrosse care where "impact Players" came from anyhow and commission a study on this. They want the sport to grow nationally and don't care if the top players come from Sheboygen or Shoreham. If there is such a study done by US Lacrosse, please share the specific citation/link with the rest of us.
The study was in-house and discussed at US Lacrosse meetings held in the fall. It was broken down by region to show the growth in lacrosse nationwide and Long Island was shown as area that did not supply as many "impact" players based on stats five years prior. I agree they do not care where good players come from but other regions, particularly Maryland, have grown "impact" players. Impact players are player that start 75% of games for at least three years. It is of interesting note that Long Island players also have a high percentage of severe injury as compared to the rest of the country.
Wasn't that a boys study?
Thank you it looks like that Division will be some battle looking forward to next year already and the summer barely started. That's three very good teams with some top players in the country should be a lot of fun. Have a safe and healthy summer.
The study was both boys and girls.
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
And BBP moving up. Definitely the primo Division.
BBP not moving ....... all others are the same
Can anyone explain why Middle Country needs two High Schools to field a Girls Laccrosse team? Shouldn't each HS have their own team?
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
And BBP moving up. Definitely the primo Division.
BBP not moving ....... all others are the same
Can anyone explain why Middle Country needs two High Schools to field a Girls Laccrosse team? Shouldn't each HS have their own team?
Dix Hills has the same issue with Girls Lax at the HS level. Apparently each school can't field their own teams.
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
And BBP moving up. Definitely the primo Division.
BBP not moving ....... all others are the same
Can anyone explain why Middle Country needs two High Schools to field a Girls Laccrosse team? Shouldn't each HS have their own team?
Dix Hills has the same issue with Girls Lax at the HS level. Apparently each school can't field their own teams.
This is at least the third time someone has brought this up about MC? Why the fixation? Neither HS has enough to field a team so they combine and last year still only had 18-20 on roster. Satisfied?
north bab and west bab might combine
Anyone else hear due to declining enrollment that East Islip,West Babylon and Happague are moving to Division 2 for the 2015 season?
And BBP moving up. Definitely the primo Division.
BBP not moving ....... all others are the same
Can anyone explain why Middle Country needs two High Schools to field a Girls Laccrosse team? Shouldn't each HS have their own team?
Dix Hills has the same issue with Girls Lax at the HS level. Apparently each school can't field their own teams.
This is at least the third time someone has brought this up about MC? Why the fixation? Neither HS has enough to field a team so they combine and last year still only had 18-20 on roster. Satisfied?
Do they have strong youth programs?
Do they cut any girls? I wonder if one team equals a better team. Think how much better your high school would be if you could add a few from a neighboring town.
Do they cut any girls? I wonder if one team equals a better team. Think how much better your high school would be if you could add a few from a neighboring town.
With the strength of girls lax on LI I can't believe a school district couldn't field a team on their own.
Do they cut any girls? I wonder if one team equals a better team. Think how much better your high school would be if you could add a few from a neighboring town.
With the strength of girls lax on LI I can't believe a school district couldn't field a team on their own.
At our HS we could barely field two teams, the travel crazies have driven out any athletic fringe kids. We now have a really skilled 8 or so travel girls and the bottom 8 are pretty dreadful. Since everyone has quit they are looking to call up 7th and 8th graders which feeds into the crazy travel parents. Its a problem. 7th and 8th graders shouldn't be playing varsity just because of a body need. And you can't be competitive unless you are running subs in and out.
[quote=Anonymous]Do they cut any girls? I wonder if one team equals a better team. Think how much better your high school would be if you could add a few from a neighboring town.
With the strength of girls lax on LI I can't believe a school district couldn't field a team on their own.
At our HS we could barely field two teams, the travel crazies have drivUuen out any athletic fringe kids. We now have a really skilled 8 or so travel girls and the bottom 8 are pretty dreadful. Since everyone has quit they are looking to call up 7th and 8th graders which feeds into the crazy travel parents. Its a problem. 7th and 8th graders shouldn't be playing varsity just because of a body need. And you can't be competitive unless you are running subs in and out.[/quote
The varsity programs will become direct reflections of the town youth programs. If the youth program can keep as many athletes playing for as long as possible .
Do they cut any girls? I wonder if one team equals a better team. Think how much better your high school would be if you could add a few from a neighboring town.
With the strength of girls lax on LI I can't believe a school district couldn't field a team on their own.
At our HS we could barely field two teams, the travel crazies have driven out any athletic fringe kids. We now have a really skilled 8 or so travel girls and the bottom 8 are pretty dreadful. Since everyone has quit they are looking to call up 7th and 8th graders which feeds into the crazy travel parents. Its a problem. 7th and 8th graders shouldn't be playing varsity just because of a body need. And you can't be competitive unless you are running subs in and out.
The model you are complaining about actually works quite well. Stack team with high skill travel girls, bring up the 8th 9th graders who can play. Get your skill girls in great condition endurance wise and you are set, barely any subs needed. Keep your best players on the field at all times.
Congrats to all the girls lax players of the class of 2014!! Whether your playing D1/D2/D3 club or not at all in college. May you achieve all that you dream to achieve!!
I don't agree with that model, no subbing, about 15 girls get to play and the coaches pick from grades 7-12, it's ridiculous. Don't tell me that the 3 middies who play the whole game aren't tired. Lots of athletic girls turning to track for a chance to participate and be a part of the team.
Do they cut any girls? I wonder if one team equals a better team. Think how much better your high school would be if you could add a few from a neighboring town.
With the strength of girls lax on LI I can't believe a school district couldn't field a team on their own.
At our HS we could barely field two teams, the travel crazies have driven out any athletic fringe kids. We now have a really skilled 8 or so travel girls and the bottom 8 are pretty dreadful. Since everyone has quit they are looking to call up 7th and 8th graders which feeds into the crazy travel parents. Its a problem. 7th and 8th graders shouldn't be playing varsity just because of a body need. And you can't be competitive unless you are running subs in and out.
The model you are complaining about actually works quite well. Stack team with high skill travel girls, bring up the 8th 9th graders who can play. Get your skill girls in great condition endurance wise and you are set, barely any subs needed. Keep your best players on the field at all times.
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At our HS we could barely field two teams, the travel crazies have driven out any athletic fringe kids. We now have a really skilled 8 or so travel girls and the bottom 8 are pretty dreadful. Since everyone has quit they are looking to call up 7th and 8th graders which feeds into the crazy travel parents. Its a problem. 7th and 8th graders shouldn't be playing varsity just because of a body need. And you can't be competitive unless you are running subs in and out. [/quote]
The model you are complaining about actually works quite well. Stack team with high skill travel girls, bring up the 8th 9th graders who can play. Get your skill girls in great condition endurance wise and you are set, barely any subs needed. Keep your best players on the field at all times. [/quote] [/quote]
That's nonsense. You need a deep bench if you want to be successful against the better teams And 99% of 7th and 8th graders aren't ready or worthy of varsity. Just because they show up to school tryouts with a TG or YJ hoodie on doesn't mean they should automatically make varsity. YJ cut almost no one these days so everyone who wants the hoodies can have one. Need to keep the good non travel girls around to keep these rosters full. Its a problem with our team and its getting worse by the year.
If a 7 th grader is needed to field and start on your varsity team there is a good chance that your Varsity program is just not that good. The 7th grader can be talented but will be for the most part a non factor against the top teams.
north bab and west bab might combine
Their youth programs have combined.
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At our HS we could barely field two teams, the travel crazies have driven out any athletic fringe kids. We now have a really skilled 8 or so travel girls and the bottom 8 are pretty dreadful. Since everyone has quit they are looking to call up 7th and 8th graders which feeds into the crazy travel parents. Its a problem. 7th and 8th graders shouldn't be playing varsity just because of a body need. And you can't be competitive unless you are running subs in and out.
The model you are complaining about actually works quite well. Stack team with high skill travel girls, bring up the 8th 9th graders who can play. Get your skill girls in great condition endurance wise and you are set, barely any subs needed. Keep your best players on the field at all times. [/quote] [/quote]
That's nonsense. You need a deep bench if you want to be successful against the better teams And 99% of 7th and 8th graders aren't ready or worthy of varsity. Just because they show up to school tryouts with a TG or YJ hoodie on doesn't mean they should automatically make varsity. YJ cut almost no one these days so everyone who wants the hoodies can have one. Need to keep the good non travel girls around to keep these rosters full. Its a problem with our team and its getting worse by the year. [/quote]
So you want to be competitive against the top teams? Did you happen to go to any of the county or LI championship games? Did you happen to notice anything? The best schools use the bench extremely lightly. They put and keep the best players on the field for as much and as long as possible. Bench is used for injury. Watch the college games, near zero subbing there too. Yes it is frustrating to get to varsity and not see playing time, but teams always have a top half and a bottom half. Good coaches will get all the girls involved in the easier games during the season, but many do not. You know, some of these coaches are looking to pad the stats. Come critical game time, you gotta keep the best players on the field. A tired top tier midfielder is still a [lacrosse] of a lot more effective than a second string bench player. Quality teams take good care of the ball, they may try to take advantage in the transition game which sometimes translates to a quick turnover and run back down the field. The midfielders control the tempo of the game, once they have ball control they can play a settled offense allowing plenty of time to catch their breath, and you see all good teams do this, it is what allows the kids to play every minute of every game.
At our HS we could barely field two teams, the travel crazies have driven out any athletic fringe kids. We now have a really skilled 8 or so travel girls and the bottom 8 are pretty dreadful. Since everyone has quit they are looking to call up 7th and 8th graders which feeds into the crazy travel parents. Its a problem. 7th and 8th graders shouldn't be playing varsity just because of a body need. And you can't be competitive unless you are running subs in and out.
The model you are complaining about actually works quite well. Stack team with high skill travel girls, bring up the 8th 9th graders who can play. Get your skill girls in great condition endurance wise and you are set, barely any subs needed. Keep your best players on the field at all times. [/quote] [/quote]
That's nonsense. You need a deep bench if you want to be successful against the better teams And 99% of 7th and 8th graders aren't ready or worthy of varsity. Just because they show up to school tryouts with a TG or YJ hoodie on doesn't mean they should automatically make varsity. YJ cut almost no one these days so everyone who wants the hoodies can have one. Need to keep the good non travel girls around to keep these rosters full. Its a problem with our team and its getting worse by the year. [/quote]
So you want to be competitive against the top teams? Did you happen to go to any of the county or LI championship games? Did you happen to notice anything? The best schools use the bench extremely lightly. They put and keep the best players on the field for as much and as long as possible. Bench is used for injury. Watch the college games, near zero subbing there too. Yes it is frustrating to get to varsity and not see playing time, but teams always have a top half and a bottom half. Good coaches will get all the girls involved in the easier games during the season, but many do not. You know, some of these coaches are looking to pad the stats. Come critical game time, you gotta keep the best players on the field. A tired top tier midfielder is still a [lacrosse] of a lot more effective than a second string bench player. Quality teams take good care of the ball, they may try to take advantage in the transition game which sometimes translates to a quick turnover and run back down the field. The midfielders control the tempo of the game, once they have ball control they can play a settled offense allowing plenty of time to catch their breath, and you see all good teams do this, it is what allows the kids to play every minute of every game. [/quote]
Our school has 7 or 8 travel kids and the rest of the roster is kids who are guilted into playing to keep the team alive. The travel parents then bash the same kids their daughters begged to play so they could field a team.
On one hand your lucky, sounds like a good opportunity to get some playing time. In many districts even reasonably advanced travel girls will never get to see the field due to ramped up youth program that has 40 kids playing at every graduating year. And yes many towns have two teams per age group. Even following the basic 11th 12th graders only play varsity you would have 80-90 kids combined in those age groups. Obviously you have a massive fall out of players by the time they hit school ball. So try to look on the bright side, your kid has an opportunity in your district to actually get on the field, many other districts eliminates this opportunity to a very select few percentage wise.
I've noticed in girls sports as they get older they tend to pursue other avenues and participating in athletics isn't always on the top of their lists. So when they reach high school the 60 kids playing in 6th grade is now 20. Out of those 20, 6 can actually play but believe it or not kids actually play to have fun and be part of something and some of those will develop into nice players who will contribute. Every team has a few stars, roll players, and players that the others need to carry , sort of like work. It's up to the kids and the coaches to blend them all into a TEAM. The stars will only take you saw far. So keep playing!
What teams do you see having a strong shot at developing a winning program with the you get ones coming up? Any predictions? So many 2018-2020 girls that come out of one school and playing travel that I suspect it should really take off.
What teams do you see having a strong shot at developing a winning program with the you get ones coming up? Any predictions? So many 2018-2020 girls that come out of one school and playing travel that I suspect it should really take off.
It's not us because our PAL program is in shambles, we are the exception not the norm on LI. Stuck combining teams at almost every age and then begging kids to play just so the group of hardcore players have a place to play
You can't go wrong with TG or YJ both aren't going down anytime soon.
What teams do you see having a strong shot at developing a winning program with the you get ones coming up? Any predictions? So many 2018-2020 girls that come out of one school and playing travel that I suspect it should really take off.
Too many girls in a program may be just as bad as not enough. ESM comes to mind as a large number of girls seem to play travel in all young age groups. If HS will put 9th through 12 graders on varsity, that puts about 5 or 6 top girls from each graduating year on varsity. Where do the rest go?
What teams do you see having a strong shot at developing a winning program with the you get ones coming up? Any predictions? So many 2018-2020 girls that come out of one school and playing travel that I suspect it should really take off.
Too many girls in a program may be just as bad as not enough. ESM comes to mind as a large number of girls seem to play travel in all young age groups. If HS will put 9th through 12 graders on varsity, that puts about 5 or 6 top girls from each graduating year on varsity. Where do the rest go?
Softball
ESM definitely. Riverhead and westham have a bunch of young girls filling the travel teams too. Question is.... Will they be given the opportunity to earn a spot on jv or varsity teams and give us some competition for the next few years or will the " that's not fair" cries from older, less skilled players' parents run the teams. What's the precedent in other areas? Pros? Cons?
ESM definitely. Riverhead and westham have a bunch of young girls filling the travel teams too. Question is.... Will they be given the opportunity to earn a spot on jv or varsity teams and give us some competition for the next few years or will the " that's not fair" cries from older, less skilled players' parents run the teams. What's the precedent in other areas? Pros? Cons?
The problem is you travel parents think your kids automatically qualify to be called up when it reality no one gets cut from travel. We don't care that you play travel because anyone can these days.
ESM definitely. Riverhead and westham have a bunch of young girls filling the travel teams too. Question is.... Will they be given the opportunity to earn a spot on jv or varsity teams and give us some competition for the next few years or will the " that's not fair" cries from older, less skilled players' parents run the teams. What's the precedent in other areas? Pros? Cons?
The problem is you travel parents think your kids automatically qualify to be called up when it reality no one gets cut from travel. We don't care that you play travel because anyone can these days.
Its not a travel vs non travel discussion, these overloaded districts will be way overloaded with travel kids much less non travel. All these people spending thousands of dollars per year when the fact is less than 20% will actually be playing by the time high school rolls around. The road to the promised land got a little too crowded.
ESM definitely. Riverhead and westham have a bunch of young girls filling the travel teams too. Question is.... Will they be given the opportunity to earn a spot on jv or varsity teams and give us some competition for the next few years or will the " that's not fair" cries from older, less skilled players' parents run the teams. What's the precedent in other areas? Pros? Cons?
Our district is small and almost always calls up MS girls to JV, and even V sometimes. This seems to be fine at the JV level from what I can tell. At the V level, what I've seen is, generally speaking, the younger girls generally don't have the size, or more importantly, the game sense of the older girls. I've seen a lot of trying to do it all by themselves with two or three girls on them when they could and should have made a pass. Or they panic and throw away the ball when somebody big and/or aggressive approaches. They tend to not hold back when we're up because they're focused on the goal. Just stuff like that that comes with more time spent on the game. Yes, all things a good coach should address.
I think it's a good experience for the younger girls to see how the coach operates, to see the level of the game, to see the size of the other teams, and to feel part of the team. In my district, if you're called up you are going to play.
If your child is getting called up and will or might ride the bench then you have to make the decision you feel is best. That has been discussed here and there are arguments on both sides.
ESM definitely. Riverhead and westham have a bunch of young girls filling the travel teams too. Question is.... Will they be given the opportunity to earn a spot on jv or varsity teams and give us some competition for the next few years or will the " that's not fair" cries from older, less skilled players' parents run the teams. What's the precedent in other areas? Pros? Cons?
The problem is you travel parents think your kids automatically qualify to be called up when it reality no one gets cut from travel. We don't care that you play travel because anyone can these days.
In my kids HS every starter played on a club team. They had 13 or 14 on the bench and out of them I believe four didn't play club.
ESM definitely. Riverhead and westham have a bunch of young girls filling the travel teams too. Question is.... Will they be given the opportunity to earn a spot on jv or varsity teams and give us some competition for the next few years or will the " that's not fair" cries from older, less skilled players' parents run the teams. What's the precedent in other areas? Pros? Cons?
We have the same problem in my district, parents of not so skilled 10th, 11th and 12th graders try to block the coach from bringing up 7th and 8th graders that are clearly better and should get starting positions over the older girls. everything has to be done secretly so these parents dont get wind until its to late
What teams do you see having a strong shot at developing a winning program with the you get ones coming up? Any predictions? So many 2018-2020 girls that come out of one school and playing travel that I suspect it should really take off.
Too many girls in a program may be just as bad as not enough. ESM comes to mind as a large number of girls seem to play travel in all young age groups. If HS will put 9th through 12 graders on varsity, that puts about 5 or 6 top girls from each graduating year on varsity. Where do the rest go?
Softball
Track - at least they will get to run and participate and not stand on the sidelines.
ESM definitely. Riverhead and westham have a bunch of young girls filling the travel teams too. Question is.... Will they be given the opportunity to earn a spot on jv or varsity teams and give us some competition for the next few years or will the " that's not fair" cries from older, less skilled players' parents run the teams. What's the precedent in other areas? Pros? Cons?
We have the same problem in my district, parents of not so skilled 10th, 11th and 12th graders try to block the coach from bringing up 7th and 8th graders that are clearly better and should get starting positions over the older girls. everything has to be done secretly so these parents dont get wind until its to late
I am wondering how many schools have 7&8th graders that start on Varsity and made it into the playoffs.
Doing things secretly causes problems. Why not just open the tryouts up to all 8th graders. In one school a number of girls were brought up from middle school quietly to tryout for varsity (and not because of a numbers need). Others with equal talent (not an opinion, fact) weren't given this opportunity. To avoid problems why not invite all? Most that are not close to being ready will pass on the tryout and the coaches can take those who they had planned on taking anyway. Plus, in an ideal world, maybe a sleeper without the right connections will catch the eye of a coach.
Doing things secretly causes problems. Why not just open the tryouts up to all 8th graders. In one school a number of girls were brought up from middle school quietly to tryout for varsity (and not because of a numbers need). Others with equal talent (not an opinion, fact) weren't given this opportunity. To avoid problems why not invite all? Most that are not close to being ready will pass on the tryout and the coaches can take those who they had planned on taking anyway. Plus, in an ideal world, maybe a sleeper without the right connections will catch the eye of a coach.
How about this travel dad, your kid will have more than enough time to play varsity. Just because the people you write the big check to every summer tell you how great your kid is doesn't make it so. Wait your turn and don't rush it.
The objections are from parents of older kids who are just NOT as good. Trust me, they are not as good. These parents can keep fooling themselves, but it is rare to hear that a younger girl was brought up and the older girl is better. Will these parents also go to the school board and protest a young girl who practices her violin and attends private violin lessons from sitting first chair in a high school band. Better yet, put an end to advanced math and advanced high school curriculum. What these parents are looking for are participation ribbons. Sorry, but us crazy travel parents are just looking for our kids to have the chance to play. Given the chance, these kids show they are simply better.
Doing things secretly causes problems. Why not just open the tryouts up to all 8th graders. In one school a number of girls were brought up from middle school quietly to tryout for varsity (and not because of a numbers need). Others with equal talent (not an opinion, fact) weren't given this opportunity. To avoid problems why not invite all? Most that are not close to being ready will pass on the tryout and the coaches can take those who they had planned on taking anyway. Plus, in an ideal world, maybe a sleeper without the right connections will catch the eye of a coach.
How about this travel dad, your kid will have more than enough time to play varsity. Just because the people you write the big check to every summer tell you how great your kid is doesn't make it so. Wait your turn and don't rush it.
Most of these kids do not stand out on the travel teams, they blend in and nobody calls them great. Where they do stand out is back on the school team. I am also talking about the top teams from the top clubs here, 2nd or third team or off brand club this doesn't apply. Now if an 8th grader from one of the top teams and the top clubs is a standout on that team, believe me she is more than qualified to be playing varsity. Reality is there are only a very small number of girls on LI who fit this description, maybe a half dozen. Everyone on this thread has their parent goggles on and believes that to be their daughter, that is the real problem here, your daughter isn't the "one".
Doing things secretly causes problems. Why not just open the tryouts up to all 8th graders. In one school a number of girls were brought up from middle school quietly to tryout for varsity (and not because of a numbers need). Others with equal talent (not an opinion, fact) weren't given this opportunity. To avoid problems why not invite all? Most that are not close to being ready will pass on the tryout and the coaches can take those who they had planned on taking anyway. Plus, in an ideal world, maybe a sleeper without the right connections will catch the eye of a coach.
How about this travel dad, your kid will have more than enough time to play varsity. Just because the people you write the big check to every summer tell you how great your kid is doesn't make it so. Wait your turn and don't rush it.
By your logic, ALL 8th graders will have more than enough time to play varsity then, including the invited 8th graders. I think if you're going to have a tryout for some 8th graders then it should be open to all. The secrecy aspect just feeds the politics, although let's be real, those politics will certainly affect who gets chosen ultimately. But you never know, maybe there *is* a sleeper out there without the political connections.
[quote=Anonymous]Doing things secretly causes problems. Why not just open the tryouts up to all 8th graders. In one school a number of girls were brought up from middle school quietly to tryout for varsity (and not because of a numbers need). Others with equal talent (not an opinion, fact) weren't given this opportunity. To avoid problems why not invite all? Most that are not close to being ready will pass on the tryout and the coaches can take those who they had planned on taking anyway. Plus, in an ideal world, maybe a sleeper without the right connections will catch the eye of a coach.
How about this travel dad, your kid will have more than enough time to play varsity. Just because the people you write the big check to every summer tell you how great your kid is doesn't make it so. Wait your turn and don't rush it.
Most of these kids do not stand out on the travel teams, they blend in and nobody calls them great. Where they do stand out is back on the school team. I am also talking about the top teams from the top clubs here, 2nd or third team or off brand club this doesn't apply. Now if an 8th grader from one of the top teams and the top clubs is a standout on that team, believe me she is more than qualified to be playing varsity. Reality is there are only a very small number of girls on LI who fit this description, maybe a half dozen. Everyone on this thread has their parent goggles on and believes that to be their daughter, that is the real problem here, your daughter isn't the "one". [/quote
Best response I have read this year and I couldn't agree more!!!
The objections are from parents of older kids who are just NOT as good. Trust me, they are not as good. These parents can keep fooling themselves, but it is rare to hear that a younger girl was brought up and the older girl is better. Will these parents also go to the school board and protest a young girl who practices her violin and attends private violin lessons from sitting first chair in a high school band. Better yet, put an end to advanced math and advanced high school curriculum. What these parents are looking for are participation ribbons. Sorry, but us crazy travel parents are just looking for our kids to have the chance to play. Given the chance, these kids show they are simply better.
You don't know what you're talking about. It's not ALWAYS the case that the younger girl is better. If she plays for the right travel club, or has the right connections, it also gets her on the team, and even in the game, in some cases. You can't generalize that ALL the younger players are better
ESM definitely. Riverhead and westham have a bunch of young girls filling the travel teams too. Question is.... Will they be given the opportunity to earn a spot on jv or varsity teams and give us some competition for the next few years or will the " that's not fair" cries from older, less skilled players' parents run the teams. What's the precedent in other areas? Pros? Cons?
We have the same problem in my district, parents of not so skilled 10th, 11th and 12th graders try to block the coach from bringing up 7th and 8th graders that are clearly better and should get starting positions over the older girls. everything has to be done secretly so these parents dont get wind until its to late
I am wondering how many schools have 7&8th graders that start on Varsity and made it into the playoffs.
Maybe these 7th and 8th graders are clearly better when playing on age, but when brought up they will be playing against girls a few years older that are often stronger, smarter, faster. They may not stand out as much.
The objections are from parents of older kids who are just NOT as good. Trust me, they are not as good. These parents can keep fooling themselves, but it is rare to hear that a younger girl was brought up and the older girl is better. Will these parents also go to the school board and protest a young girl who practices her violin and attends private violin lessons from sitting first chair in a high school band. Better yet, put an end to advanced math and advanced high school curriculum. What these parents are looking for are participation ribbons. Sorry, but us crazy travel parents are just looking for our kids to have the chance to play. Given the chance, these kids show they are simply better.
You don't know what you're talking about. It's not ALWAYS the case that the younger girl is better. If she plays for the right travel club, or has the right connections, it also gets her on the team, and even in the game, in some cases. You can't generalize that ALL the younger players are better
Agreed. The younger players are not always better. Why push out a junior or senior who has been devoted to a school for years for a youngster that may only prove to be ready to practice with varsity but can't handle the varsity game. It happens often in sports. A great high school player may struggle in college, a great college player may struggle as a pro. A productive minor league player may not be able to hit a major league pitch.
ESM definitely. Riverhead and westham have a bunch of young girls filling the travel teams too. Question is.... Will they be given the opportunity to earn a spot on jv or varsity teams and give us some competition for the next few years or will the " that's not fair" cries from older, less skilled players' parents run the teams. What's the precedent in other areas? Pros? Cons?
We have the same problem in my district, parents of not so skilled 10th, 11th and 12th graders try to block the coach from bringing up 7th and 8th graders that are clearly better and should get starting positions over the older girls. everything has to be done secretly so these parents dont get wind until its to late
I am wondering how many schools have 7&8th graders that start on Varsity and made it into the playoffs.
Maybe these 7th and 8th graders are clearly better when playing on age, but when brought up they will be playing against girls a few years older that are often stronger, smarter, faster. They may not stand out as much.
They don't have to stand out, they can be the worst player on the field, so long as they are better than the girl they replaced they are to be considered as helping the team.
Agree, the that size can be a concern, but if they have the skill and maturity to compete at that level then they should be given the opportunity to earn their spot.
Schools need to do what is best for the students in their care and place them accordingly. There is no one blanket answer bc it is so individualized. If the girls have the skills and maturity ( all facets of such) then their age and grade level should not be a factor. Holding back these girls is stripping away their opportunities and if they can, then they should.
I suspect the complaints will come from those that feel threatened. However,should the young ladies that practice and enjoy this year round be penalized for being dedicated, hard working and talented?
Any precedent for this? Suffolk? Nassau?
Selection , classification is not supposed to be about a need do to numbers or about making a team better. Its intent is purely about the individual kid and what is best for them not the program as a whole. If a kid in 7th or 8th grade would benefit from the better competition level and more intense practice schedule and environment and if that kid has the physical and mental maturity to handle it then why not move them up.Yes its supposed to be used for the exceptional player/athlete but that is really a difficult label to apply.
Selection , classification is not supposed to be about a need do to numbers or about making a team better. Its intent is purely about the individual kid and what is best for them not the program as a whole. If a kid in 7th or 8th grade would benefit from the better competition level and more intense practice schedule and environment and if that kid has the physical and mental maturity to handle it then why not move them up.Yes its supposed to be used for the exceptional player/athlete but that is really a difficult label to apply.
In my opinion selection classification is abused in our school district we have the numbers and girls actually quit bc the selectively classified get pulled up to varsity over them. Do I believe in putting your best team on the field first absolutely but at what cost. A kid in 7th grade may not have developed as soon as her peers and then she gets overlooked and forgotten about. If a coach is a good coach she or he will find the way to bring out the best in each of her or his players. Most coaches go for the sure thing rather then developing girls that are mentally more mature. Garden City and Manhassett are great programs bc their coaches don't go for all the ripe bannanas so to speak they find the green ones and help them turn to ripe ones!!
Selection , classification is not supposed to be about a need do to numbers or about making a team better. Its intent is purely about the individual kid and what is best for them not the program as a whole. If a kid in 7th or 8th grade would benefit from the better competition level and more intense practice schedule and environment and if that kid has the physical and mental maturity to handle it then why not move them up.Yes its supposed to be used for the exceptional player/athlete but that is really a difficult label to apply.
In my opinion selection classification is abused in our school district we have the numbers and girls actually quit bc the selectively classified get pulled up to varsity over them. Do I believe in putting your best team on the field first absolutely but at what cost. A kid in 7th grade may not have developed as soon as her peers and then she gets overlooked and forgotten about. If a coach is a good coach she or he will find the way to bring out the best in each of her or his players. Most coaches go for the sure thing rather then developing girls that are mentally more mature. Garden City and Manhassett are great programs bc their coaches don't go for all the ripe bannanas so to speak they find the green ones and help them turn to ripe ones!!
If a district has to rely on 7th & 8th graders to be impact players on your Varsity team your youth program is doing something wrong
Selection , classification is not supposed to be about a need do to numbers or about making a team better. Its intent is purely about the individual kid and what is best for them not the program as a whole. If a kid in 7th or 8th grade would benefit from the better competition level and more intense practice schedule and environment and if that kid has the physical and mental maturity to handle it then why not move them up.Yes its supposed to be used for the exceptional player/athlete but that is really a difficult label to apply.
In my opinion selection classification is abused in our school district we have the numbers and girls actually quit bc the selectively classified get pulled up to varsity over them. Do I believe in putting your best team on the field first absolutely but at what cost. A kid in 7th grade may not have developed as soon as her peers and then she gets overlooked and forgotten about. If a coach is a good coach she or he will find the way to bring out the best in each of her or his players. Most coaches go for the sure thing rather then developing girls that are mentally more mature. Garden City and Manhassett are great programs bc their coaches don't go for all the ripe bannanas so to speak they find the green ones and help them turn to ripe ones!!
If a district has to rely on 7th & 8th graders to be impact players on your Varsity team your youth program is doing something wrong
This should be solved by the state athletic commission. Many states mandate that kids only have four years of varsity eligibility.
Agree, the that size can be a concern, but if they have the skill and maturity to compete at that level then they should be given the opportunity to earn their spot.
Schools need to do what is best for the students in their care and place them accordingly. There is no one blanket answer bc it is so individualized. If the girls have the skills and maturity ( all facets of such) then their age and grade level should not be a factor. Holding back these girls is stripping away their opportunities and if they can, then they should.
I suspect the complaints will come from those that feel threatened. However,should the young ladies that practice and enjoy this year round be penalized for being dedicated, hard working and talented?
Any precedent for this? Suffolk? Nassau?
Signed a YJ Parent
Selection , classification is not supposed to be about a need do to numbers or about making a team better. Its intent is purely about the individual kid and what is best for them not the program as a whole. If a kid in 7th or 8th grade would benefit from the better competition level and more intense practice schedule and environment and if that kid has the physical and mental maturity to handle it then why not move them up.Yes its supposed to be used for the exceptional player/athlete but that is really a difficult label to apply.
In my opinion selection classification is abused in our school district we have the numbers and girls actually quit bc the selectively classified get pulled up to varsity over them. Do I believe in putting your best team on the field first absolutely but at what cost. A kid in 7th grade may not have developed as soon as her peers and then she gets overlooked and forgotten about. If a coach is a good coach she or he will find the way to bring out the best in each of her or his players. Most coaches go for the sure thing rather then developing girls that are mentally more mature. Garden City and Manhassett are great programs bc their coaches don't go for all the ripe bannanas so to speak they find the green ones and help them turn to ripe ones!!
If a district has to rely on 7th & 8th graders to be impact players on your Varsity team your youth program is doing something wrong
Our youth program is top notch and those same kids play travel as well
Yet our varsity coach insists on putting 7/8 graders on JV and V. We have had juniors and seniors quit bc of this. For example our junior class this year as freshman on JV had 14 girls this year only 5 bc they quit knowing that 7/8 graders would play over them on varsity.
Agree, the that size can be a concern, but if they have the skill and maturity to compete at that level then they should be given the opportunity to earn their spot.
Schools need to do what is best for the students in their care and place them accordingly. There is no one blanket answer bc it is so individualized. If the girls have the skills and maturity ( all facets of such) then their age and grade level should not be a factor. Holding back these girls is stripping away their opportunities and if they can, then they should.
I suspect the complaints will come from those that feel threatened. However,should the young ladies that practice and enjoy this year round be penalized for being dedicated, hard working and talented?
Any precedent for this? Suffolk? Nassau?
Is playing for your middle school, or even JV, as a 7th or 8th grader being PENALIZED now? If the player will definitely help the varsity team (or JV) WIN MORE GAMES, then bring her up. If not, let her play MS or JV, which makes those teams better, and maybe even the girls around her. At the same time, you'll be allowing the older girls, who've also put their time in, to keep playing, and improving, without hurting the varsity team, or anyone else!
At what point do we allow the best players their time on field? Not who is older and not the "that's not fair" claim. Best players play. None are entitled to place on team, they need to EARN it with skill and dedication. Nothing else matters.
At what point do we allow the best players their time on field? Not who is older and not the "that's not fair" claim. Best players play. None are entitled to place on team, they need to EARN it with skill and dedication. Nothing else matters.
You're right. Now, if we could only remove the inherent politics from the equation...
Agree, the that size can be a concern, but if they have the skill and maturity to compete at that level then they should be given the opportunity to earn their spot.
Schools need to do what is best for the students in their care and place them accordingly. There is no one blanket answer bc it is so individualized. If the girls have the skills and maturity ( all facets of such) then their age and grade level should not be a factor. Holding back these girls is stripping away their opportunities and if they can, then they should.
I suspect the complaints will come from those that feel threatened. However,should the young ladies that practice and enjoy this year round be penalized for being dedicated, hard working and talented?
Any precedent for this? Suffolk? Nassau?
Signed a YJ Parent
This is not a YJ only problem. Fact is our district brought up 2 TG girls last season after bringing up a YJ the previous season.
At what point do we allow the best players their time on field? Not who is older and not the "that's not fair" claim. Best players play. None are entitled to place on team, they need to EARN it with skill and dedication. Nothing else matters.
. Unfortunately, this is rarely the case.
[quote=Anonymous]At what point do we allow the best players their time on field? Not who is older and not the "that's not fair" claim. Best players play. None are entitled to place on team, they need to EARN it with skill and dedication. Nothing else matters.
. Unfortunately, this is rarely the case.Because usually it's not the best players, its selective call ups usually driven by loud mouth travel parents.
Way back in the 80's a athlete waited his/her turn and got on the field in their junior and senior year. Now in the days of my kid is the best coming from parents that never played in HS the coaches cave to the pressure.
Way back in the 80's a athlete waited his/her turn and got on the field in their junior and senior year. Now in the days of my kid is the best coming from parents that never played in HS the coaches cave to the pressure.
But my kid played travel, we go to Maryland every weekend to play LI teams, the travel program has direct pay set up from my checking account. I got a fancy warm up suit and back pack and the owner of the travel program says I am going to get a scholarship. My travel coach says they are smarter than my school coach and they told me I should be on varsity as an 8th grader.
Way back in the 80's a athlete waited his/her turn and got on the field in their junior and senior year. Now in the days of my kid is the best coming from parents that never played in HS the coaches cave to the pressure.
My daughter got brought up to varsity early. No political ties, never knew the coach, she flat out earned it. She excels and is happy, not without some ill feelings from older girls on the team, other girls who were passed up, and parents of these kids. I guess that is exactly what we see here on this thread, the ill feelings. But I do get it, as I see many parents and kids politically angling to get on varsity, and many don't deserve it, and can't except that, but every kid and school district is different and must be looked at individually, not fair to generalize on the situation.
Way back in the 80's a athlete waited his/her turn and got on the field in their junior and senior year. Now in the days of my kid is the best coming from parents that never played in HS the coaches cave to the pressure.
I think the old way is what made being part of a team a special thing to experience in high school, especially for juniors and seniors. Also, important life lessons were learned regarding an understanding that hard work and patience often lead to recognition.
Unfortunately that is how the girls lacrosse recruiting process takes place through the summer tournaments and getting the nod from BS & CR carries a lot of weight and your kidding yourself if you don't think so. When CR & BS call ahead to a college coach who runs a camp that kid gets a better look than the kid who does not get the nod. We all watched a lot of great 10th graders and some very good 9th graders play Varisty in 2014 & they carried their own weight and made an impact. A good coach knows who to bring up and play. Don't forget some of these kids actually deserve it.
Way back in the 80's a athlete waited his/her turn and got on the field in their junior and senior year. Now in the days of my kid is the best coming from parents that never played in HS the coaches cave to the pressure.
Do you actually believe what you are writing, what sport and what school and I can probably name an underclassmen that started. Grow up and let the best kids play regardless of age.
Unfortunately that is how the girls lacrosse recruiting process takes place through the summer tournaments and getting the nod from BS & CR carries a lot of weight and your kidding yourself if you don't think so. When CR & BS call ahead to a college coach who runs a camp that kid gets a better look than the kid who does not get the nod. We all watched a lot of great 10th graders and some very good 9th graders play Varisty in 2014 & they carried their own weight and made an impact. A good coach knows who to bring up and play. Don't forget some of these kids actually deserve it.
They do, you are right. And FWIW, I have never heard a travel coach tell a kid, in any sport, that he/she should be brought up. Does that really happen? IME, travel coaches and school coaches are generally in a pissing match about who "owns" the talent during season, I don't see a lot of cooperation there (again, across sports, not just lax).
I agree. I was a 9th grade starter graduated in 1983. I was a decent player on a poor team. My issue is these coaches bringing up players for Varsity to fill the bench, how does that improve your team look at copiague. who by the way rewarded the most penalized player (dirty player) with an award this year and the coach even mentioned it as she presented the award.
Unfortunately that is how the girls lacrosse recruiting process takes place through the summer tournaments and getting the nod from BS & CR carries a lot of weight and your kidding yourself if you don't think so. When CR & BS call ahead to a college coach who runs a camp that kid gets a better look than the kid who does not get the nod. We all watched a lot of great 10th graders and some very good 9th graders play Varisty in 2014 & they carried their own weight and made an impact. A good coach knows who to bring up and play. Don't forget some of these kids actually deserve it.
They do, you are right. And FWIW, I have never heard a travel coach tell a kid, in any sport, that he/she should be brought up. Does that really happen? IME, travel coaches and school coaches are generally in a pissing match about who "owns" the talent during season, I don't see a lot of cooperation there (again, across sports, not just lax).
GREAT POINT on the coaches in a pissing match, we had a few of our YJ's miss practice to go to go to some travel things and colleges during the season when everyone else worked around the school schedule. Drove the HS coach crazy. Travel is all about me me me, school teams is supposed to be all about team.
Agree, the that size can be a concern, but if they have the skill and maturity to compete at that level then they should be given the opportunity to earn their spot.
Schools need to do what is best for the students in their care and place them accordingly. There is no one blanket answer bc it is so individualized. If the girls have the skills and maturity ( all facets of such) then their age and grade level should not be a factor. Holding back these girls is stripping away their opportunities and if they can, then they should.
I suspect the complaints will come from those that feel threatened. However,should the young ladies that practice and enjoy this year round be penalized for being dedicated, hard working and talented?
Any precedent for this? Suffolk? Nassau?
Since the Girls Lacrosse boom (say the last 8-10 years for arguments sake), there have probably been a handful of 7-8th grade girls that were brought up to Varsity and have been ready to compete at the Varsity level within the county. Skill/Talent, emotionally and physically ready. Not on their individual school team but truly compete against top talent girls, game in and game out, in the county.
Being on a Varsity sport team in 7/8/9 grade has since been the measuring stick for certain girls and/or their parents. The prevailing thought is, the earlier, the better.
Unfortunately, most girls are not truly ready. They have not matured physically or emotionally. The varsity game is always officiated well and girls get bumped, knocked down etc. Officials then compensate for the size difference by making questionable calls to protect these smaller athletes. Not necessarily a conscious plan but you see it during indoor games and local tournaments.
Girls being moved to varsity to fill the bench are not being done any justice. They get better at lacrosse by playing lacrosse. Game conditions are different than practice conditions.
If these 7-8th grade girls are the best in their district at their age, they should still be able to improve, and they should help their friends and teammates improve. It's better for their overall development.
Any parents who have had their daughters play varsity at the 7, 8, or 9th grade ages, I ask, can you compare their level of play at that age to their level of play at 11th and 12th grade. I can honestly say, my daughter and most of her friends were better at the older ages and, in hindsight, should have stayed and played "age appropriate" until 9th grade.
IMHO
Agreed. The move to jv has been absent from this conversation. Is that perhaps a better location for these younger, skilled players. I don't think it is their responsibility or burden to carry along girls who are just starting the sport it will be both frustrating and undermining the value of each girls on both sides of skill level. Kids want to feel connected and contributing, hard to do when some feel held back while others feel an unintentional but palpable comparison. Keep in mind, these are minds of middle schoolers and although sometimes they are ruled by emotion and not reason, their feelings and impressions are still of value.
Maybe better jump is to jv where the skilled, younger girls who prove they can do it is the best position for them. Not a broad stroke statement, considering the Indiv needs of the individual girl, just referring to them collectively.
I can appreciate the worries and reality of the overly animated and boisterous parent. Feels like parental bullying in the community however it is the AD and coaches right and responsibility to manage their programs in the best interest of the athletes. Clear, reasoned and well articulated evidence to support why they do what they do goes a long way to inform the community. You may not like it, but at least you gather info on why they may choose to do it and proceed from there.
After reading this thread and considering all the different perspectives and reasons given, it seems that when you still down, girls have to prove they should be where they are placed regardless of level. Parents need to zip it and admins need to clearly articulate and follow through with objectives and expectations of all facets.
Just another thing to think about after your 10th grader commits you get to pay for the college camp that she is committed to so she can spend time with all the other 2017 commits, 2016, 2015 and last but not least the 2014 commits plus all the others who decided to attend the camp. I'm not complaining but just be prepared to pay for travel team then camp. I understand it's a great chance to see what the coaches are all about and they really get a chance to evaulate that 10th grader that they verbally gave scholarship money too. How do you avoid going to camp, you really can't plus the kid gets a first hand look at the dorms and the school. Any thoughts on this?
But most recruiting is done through the travel team my kid played JV as a 10th grader and was recruited and verbally committed before she stepped on the field for the Varsity. Remember it's all in the eye of the beholder, some coaches may think the kid is great while others don't see any return on investment. Just keep playing hard and show some sportsmanship on the field act like a leader and try not to make a fool of oneself leave that up to us the parents and support one another for crying out loud they are YOUR teammates & friends!
[quote=Anonymous]At what point do we allow the best players their time on field? Not who is older and not the "that's not fair" claim. Best players play. None are entitled to place on team, they need to EARN it with skill and dedication. Nothing else matters.
. Unfortunately, this is rarely the case.Because usually it's not the best players, its selective call ups usually driven by loud mouth travel parents.
Exactly right!
I'm picking this thread to list the following because it is the 2014 Spring girls and there has been some discussion about age, playing time, etc.
The following is a breakdown of the Class of 2013 YJ commits and their playing time in their first year of playing college lacrosse. The list was 66 girls (from the website) of all YJ teams across all college divisions. (Disclaimer--I was a YJ parent and my daughter is not represented by this group. I read the YJ thread and things seemed nicer back in the day).
I broke it down as follows: (Strictly by games played)
1) "Impact" player played most games
2) "Played" is about 50% of games with statistical contribution
3) "Not Significant" played in a handful of games with little statistical contribution
4) "Did Not Play"--self explanatory but injury or transfer a possibility
45% of the 2013 commits were "Impact" players
11% of the 2013 commits "Played"
36% of the 2013 commits were "Not Significant"
8% "Did Not Play"
Just food for thought. If I can remember I'll try to follow this class to 2017.
I'm picking this thread to list the following because it is the 2014 Spring girls and there has been some discussion about age, playing time, etc.
The following is a breakdown of the Class of 2013 YJ commits and their playing time in their first year of playing college lacrosse. The list was 66 girls (from the website) of all YJ teams across all college divisions. (Disclaimer--I was a YJ parent and my daughter is not represented by this group. I read the YJ thread and things seemed nicer back in the day).
I broke it down as follows: (Strictly by games played)
1) "Impact" player played most games
2) "Played" is about 50% of games with statistical contribution
3) "Not Significant" played in a handful of games with little statistical contribution
4) "Did Not Play"--self explanatory but injury or transfer a possibility
45% of the 2013 commits were "Impact" players
11% of the 2013 commits "Played"
36% of the 2013 commits were "Not Significant"
8% "Did Not Play"
Just food for thought. If I can remember I'll try to follow this class to 2017.
Don't waste your time, the stats are meaningless. An impact player at East Bumfreckle U is the same player that does not see the field at a top ten college.
That says a lot for girls lacrosse on Long Island almost half were impact players and that's just one club team. These girls were freshman so think about how impressive that is no matter what level team they played for. As they get used to the college experience I'm sure you will see more impact players. No one said it was going to be easy play hard play fair!
I'm picking this thread to list the following because it is the 2014 Spring girls and there has been some discussion about age, playing time, etc.
The following is a breakdown of the Class of 2013 YJ commits and their playing time in their first year of playing college lacrosse. The list was 66 girls (from the website) of all YJ teams across all college divisions. (Disclaimer--I was a YJ parent and my daughter is not represented by this group. I read the YJ thread and things seemed nicer back in the day).
I broke it down as follows: (Strictly by games played)
1) "Impact" player played most games
2) "Played" is about 50% of games with statistical contribution
3) "Not Significant" played in a handful of games with little statistical contribution
4) "Did Not Play"--self explanatory but injury or transfer a possibility
45% of the 2013 commits were "Impact" players
11% of the 2013 commits "Played"
36% of the 2013 commits were "Not Significant"
8% "Did Not Play"
Just food for thought. If I can remember I'll try to follow this class to 2017.
Don't waste your time, the stats are meaningless. An impact player at East Bumfreckle U is the same player that does not see the field at a top ten college.
You are correct but also prove a point. A lot of players go to "East Bumfreckle" and don't play which doesn't help them later in life. But I thought this group was a good representation of where girls play. The vast majority were D1 schools but there were a couple of D3 schools that, from an academic standpoint, were superior to 95% of the other schools. If you have a 2100 SAT player, want to study abroad and play lacrosse don't discount these schools. For most, lacrosse is over in four years and no one will give you a job from "East Bumfreckle".
That says a lot for girls lacrosse on Long Island almost half were impact players and that's just one club team. These girls were freshman so think about how impressive that is no matter what level team they played for. As they get used to the college experience I'm sure you will see more impact players. No one said it was going to be easy play hard play fair!
I agree. I also did not "weigh" top tier D1 schools over lower D1 schools (or D2 & D3 schools) because not every lacrosse player gets recruited or wants to play in that type of program. It was simply a very general measurement on who plays in their freshman year.
Over a wide measurement time span LI girls run about 25% as impact players. Latest numbers show 39% do not play the full four years at the D1 level.
That 39% is overall or Long Island girls?
Much harder to kiss up to coaches in college. Lots of politics in both travel and HS lax. Girls being given significant minutes in HS might not get the same love in college especially with the much larger rosters. The excuse but my kid played YJ or TG doesn't hold the same weight as it does in HS
That's SOP, like it or not. And if the lax prgm isn't fully funded be prepared for fundraising done by the team. That was a huge shock to me.
That 39% is overall or Long Island girls?
Long Island. It is trending better, if slightly.
I'm picking this thread to list the following because it is the 2014 Spring girls and there has been some discussion about age, playing time, etc.
The following is a breakdown of the Class of 2013 YJ commits and their playing time in their first year of playing college lacrosse. The list was 66 girls (from the website) of all YJ teams across all college divisions. (Disclaimer--I was a YJ parent and my daughter is not represented by this group. I read the YJ thread and things seemed nicer back in the day).
I broke it down as follows: (Strictly by games played)
1) "Impact" player played most games
2) "Played" is about 50% of games with statistical contribution
3) "Not Significant" played in a handful of games with little statistical contribution
4) "Did Not Play"--self explanatory but injury or transfer a possibility
45% of the 2013 commits were "Impact" players
11% of the 2013 commits "Played"
36% of the 2013 commits were "Not Significant"
8% "Did Not Play"
Just food for thought. If I can remember I'll try to follow this class to 2017.
Don't waste your time, the stats are meaningless. An impact player at East Bumfreckle U is the same player that does not see the field at a top ten college.
You are correct but also prove a point. A lot of players go to "East Bumfreckle" and don't play which doesn't help them later in life. But I thought this group was a good representation of where girls play. The vast majority were D1 schools but there were a couple of D3 schools that, from an academic standpoint, were superior to 95% of the other schools. If you have a 2100 SAT player, want to study abroad and play lacrosse don't discount these schools. For most, lacrosse is over in four years and no one will give you a job from "East Bumfreckle".
Being an impact player is mostly a choice. Girls will choose a school for many different reasons, not all of them lacrosse related. 100% of the girls could find a team to play on and be an impact player, it is all relative to the team they choose. Now if you really want to talk impact stats, go back and figure the percentage of impact players on D1 top ten teams. There is a drop off after the top five and a cliff after top ten. I'm sure you will find a player or two and at least you will be comparing apples to apples.The term impact player has zero meaning applied across all college lacrosse teams.
You're all crazy. I could understand the whole "my daughters better than your daughter" and the "My daughters school is better than your daughters school" if there was a pot of gold at the end of the lacrosse rainbow where they were going to sign a multi million dollar contract to play pro lax. Not the case. All of our daughters will have to do something els at the end of those 4 years so if your one of those parents pushing you daughter to play at a top 10 school so they can win an NCAA championship than your a bad parent.
You're all crazy. I could understand the whole "my daughters better than your daughter" and the "My daughters school is better than your daughters school" if there was a pot of gold at the end of the lacrosse rainbow where they were going to sign a multi million dollar contract to play pro lax. Not the case. All of our daughters will have to do something els at the end of those 4 years so if your one of those parents pushing you daughter to play at a top 10 school so they can win an NCAA championship than your a bad parent.
AMEN to that!! It isn't about going D1 or National Championships for most. It's about going to the best College fit for your daughter academically.
We are pushing ours to play top 10 D3 and win a national championship. Are we bad parents too? Just asking? Cause your opinion matters...NOT. LoL. BTW learn how to spell "else" before you give parenting advice you schmuck!!
We are pushing ours to play top 10 D3 and win a national championship. Are we bad parents too? Just asking? Cause your opinion matters...NOT. LoL. BTW learn how to spell "else" before you give parenting advice you schmuck!!
Was probably just a typo but glad you were able to show all that you are smart enough to spell " else" correctly.
We are pushing ours to play top 10 D3 and win a national championship. Are we bad parents too? Just asking? Cause your opinion matters...NOT. LoL. BTW learn how to spell "else" before you give parenting advice you schmuck!!
Now this person is a complete jerkoff!!
We are pushing ours to play top 10 D3 and win a national championship. Are we bad parents too? Just asking? Cause your opinion matters...NOT. LoL. BTW learn how to spell "else" before you give parenting advice you schmuck!!
Now that's funny. The academic people get so offended. Take it easy and guide your own kid and stop telling others if you think their bad parents.
I would rather a good education at a D3 with some decent lacrosse than a couple of bucks from a lousy lacrosse and academic school like Kennesaw or central Ct which are both D1
I'm picking this thread to list the following because it is the 2014 Spring girls and there has been some discussion about age, playing time, etc.
The following is a breakdown of the Class of 2013 YJ commits and their playing time in their first year of playing college lacrosse. The list was 66 girls (from the website) of all YJ teams across all college divisions. (Disclaimer--I was a YJ parent and my daughter is not represented by this group. I read the YJ thread and things seemed nicer back in the day).
I broke it down as follows: (Strictly by games played)
1) "Impact" player played most games
2) "Played" is about 50% of games with statistical contribution
3) "Not Significant" played in a handful of games with little statistical contribution
4) "Did Not Play"--self explanatory but injury or transfer a possibility
45% of the 2013 commits were "Impact" players
11% of the 2013 commits "Played"
36% of the 2013 commits were "Not Significant"
8% "Did Not Play"
Just food for thought. If I can remember I'll try to follow this class to 2017.
Don't waste your time, the stats are meaningless. An impact player at East Bumfreckle U is the same player that does not see the field at a top ten college.
You are correct but also prove a point. A lot of players go to "East Bumfreckle" and don't play which doesn't help them later in life. But I thought this group was a good representation of where girls play. The vast majority were D1 schools but there were a couple of D3 schools that, from an academic standpoint, were superior to 95% of the other schools. If you have a 2100 SAT player, want to study abroad and play lacrosse don't discount these schools. For most, lacrosse is over in four years and no one will give you a job from "East Bumfreckle".
Being an impact player is mostly a choice. Girls will choose a school for many different reasons, not all of them lacrosse related. 100% of the girls could find a team to play on and be an impact player, it is all relative to the team they choose. Now if you really want to talk impact stats, go back and figure the percentage of impact players on D1 top ten teams. There is a drop off after the top five and a cliff after top ten. I'm sure you will find a player or two and at least you will be comparing apples to apples.The term impact player has zero meaning applied across all college lacrosse teams.
But not every player plays for a top ten D1 school. That wasn't the purpose of my statistics and maybe I used "impact" in a bad way. I just wanted to point out how often the class of 2013 YJ, at all talent levels, played in their freshman year. I used the word "impact" as it related to their team.
Despite saying I wouldn't do this, but I went back to the "Top Ten" D1 schools and the stats are 38% "Impact", 46% "Not Significant" and 16% "Did Not Play". But that was not why I posted the numbers. I just felt that an athletes and parents should understand the expectation to play and the work load that college entails.
We are pushing ours to play top 10 D3 and win a national championship. Are we bad parents too? Just asking? Cause your opinion matters...NOT. LoL. BTW learn how to spell "else" before you give parenting advice you schmuck!!
You have to choose the school that best fits your daughter and you (financially) as a parent. If you look at the top 10 D3 schools the majority are small, expensive and very difficult academically to get in. Nine of the top twenty D3 schools are NESCAC schools which is the best D3 conference in the country. You will need some lofty grades to get into these schools but your child will graduate with a great degree. The job placement numbers for these schools is crazy.
It's summer who cares go outside enjoy your children and the sun why waste time following other children when no one will care to follow what yours does!!
It's summer who cares go outside enjoy your children and the sun why waste time following other children when no one will care to follow what yours does!!
Then don't come on here and tell us that unless we play travel and go to a top 10 school that our kids suck. If your dream is for your kid to coach summer ball and be a jv team coach for $4k a year then good for you some of us want a quality education for our kids even if the lacrosse doesn't fit
This is a lacrosse forum we talk lacrosse go on the Education Forum to talk education
This is a lacrosse forum we talk lacrosse go on the Education Forum to talk education
your an idiot!!! Education should always come first before lacrosse but if your happy with your child being uneducated but hey she played lacrosse at a sub par academic school then pat yourself on the back dad you did a great job...I hope you enjoy paying her bills that she won't be able to afford bc she can't get a job too!!
Find the Education Forum I can't seem too find one and you could spend all the time you want talking about how a great education will get you a great job and leave it up to the lacrosse Dads to discuss lacrosse. By the way no one mentioned that if you don't play travel that your kids stink unless I missed that discussion.
This is a lacrosse forum we talk lacrosse go on the Education Forum to talk education
your an idiot!!! Education should always come first before lacrosse but if your happy with your child being uneducated but hey she played lacrosse at a sub par academic school then pat yourself on the back dad you did a great job...I hope you enjoy paying her bills that she won't be able to afford bc she can't get a job too!!
Actually you seem like a pompous a-hole. If a kid has a dream of being involved in lacrosse in some capacity thru-out their lives then good for them. There are plenty of Ivy league grads making lots of money out there who are leading terrible lives. Amazing you are knocking kids for chasing their dreams, many of these kids will go on to lead very successful lives whether its a professional life or one spent raising kids at home .Please tell us the great school you attended and yes I graduated from an Ivy and no my punctuation and grammar are sketchy.
This is a lacrosse forum we talk lacrosse go on the Education Forum to talk education
your an idiot!!! Education should always come first before lacrosse but if your happy with your child being uneducated but hey she played lacrosse at a sub par academic school then pat yourself on the back dad you did a great job...I hope you enjoy paying her bills that she won't be able to afford bc she can't get a job too!!
Actually you seem like a pompous a-hole. If a kid has a dream of being involved in lacrosse in some capacity thru-out their lives then good for them. There are plenty of Ivy league grads making lots of money out there who are leading terrible lives. Amazing you are knocking kids for chasing their dreams, many of these kids will go on to lead very successful lives whether its a professional life or one spent raising kids at home .Please tell us the great school you attended and yes I graduated from an Ivy and no my punctuation and grammar are sketchy.
Kid has a dream please! Sounds like you are living through your daughter
So your saying if you dont attend an above par academic school you will be uneducated, not find a job and be homeless and your worried that someone said if you dont play travel your kid stinks. Like I said before this is a lacrosse forum and we are on here to discuss lacrosse more specifically the Girls 2014 Spring High School lacrosse which ended about a month ago. So lets get ready for 2015 Girls HS lacrosse and leave the education on the bench.
"Kid has a dream please! Sounds like you are living through your daughter"
Actually you sound like a moron, most kids have dreams you idiot. Your dream for your kid is to go to an Ivy league school and get a good job and make money, that may not be her dream. Your the type who pushes their kid to go to a school they do not want to and they drop out because they are miserable just like their dad. Let your kid live her life, plus many of the top D1 girls programs also happen to be excellent academic schools.
"Kid has a dream please! Sounds like you are living through your daughter"
Actually you sound like a moron, most kids have dreams you idiot. Your dream for your kid is to go to an Ivy league school and get a good job and make money, that may not be her dream. Your the type who pushes their kid to go to a school they do not want to and they drop out because they are miserable just like their dad. Let your kid live her life, plus many of the top D1 girls programs also happen to be excellent academic schools.
And you the one to push your kid to play no matter what...
Lets be honest, some of the top schools keep there athletes in easer classes so they can get higher grades and make the school look better. I know many girls that have graduated and had to transfer to another school to finish their degree because of the sacrifice the big schools demand of there athletes. I would rather my daughter finish on time and get her degree within the time she receives her scholarship for a "lower" school and not have to pay to finish later, so that Florida or Ohio State can have a better rep.
Lets be honest, some of the top schools keep there athletes in easer classes so they can get higher grades and make the school look better.
Name them-and don't make make [lacrosse] up. Name the classes too
Lets be honest, some of the top schools keep there athletes in easer classes so they can get higher grades and make the school look better.
Name them-and don't make make [lacrosse] up. Name the classes too
English 101. The class you obviously blew off.
Lets be honest, some of the top schools keep there athletes in easer classes so they can get higher grades and make the school look better.
Name them-and don't make make [lacrosse] up. Name the classes too
ok copy and paste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa7OnJXVopo
Lets be honest, some of the top schools keep there athletes in easer classes so they can get higher grades and make the school look better.
Name them-and don't make make [lacrosse] up. Name the classes too
Are you serious? Duke Basketball team, Miami Football team and everytime the Notre Dame football position opens up you hear he won't take the job because "he can't get the players he needs in like other schools do". Watch the you tube video
Schedules came out this week. Any new coaches on LI this coming season?
Schedules came out this week. Any new coaches on LI this coming season?
Which town do you want to know about?
Schedules came out this week. Any new coaches on LI this coming season?
Which town do you want to know about?
Something is going on at Rocky Point
Please advise. Looking at the policy of selective classification guidelines put forth by NYS. Is there any information, not opinion necessarily, out there that identifies what districts follow what policies. Is it the norm that most follow the current NYS policy or have some developed their own. If so, any insights as to why and what does the data show?
You can easily find the NYS standards by googling them. Basically NYS says that the proper measure for selective classification is neither age nor grade, but readiness as assessed by the coaches, parents and physicians. Individual districts may adopt their own policys. Currently Riverhead is proposing to prevent 7th graders from playing varsity and allowing them to play JV ONLY if they meet the NYS standards for varsity (Not JV) athletes. Mattituck allows 7th to play varsity. Shoreham recently modified their policy and any other districts policy should be posted on the school district's website under their "policies" section. If it is not posted, you should be able to get a copy from the administrative office at your district. This is an interesting issue and just wondering if others could post summaries of their district's policy here so we could get a read on what other Nassau/Suffolk County districts are doing, particularly with regard to girls as this seems to be a bigger issue in that venue.
That's bc Riverhead parents are freaking out and blocking younger better girls from playing up even though that is where readiness, skill and maturity level. Fortunate town to have a group of girls that are so dedicated and happy to be playing. Complete shame and sham that the school district does not acknowledge the talent have and provide an environment to nurture growth and programs.
Although I am in a neighboring district, my daughter plays these girls on a regular basis and they can definitely be impact players on at the least, a JV level team.
Thankfully my district has the forethought and responsibility to put the needs of the child first, not the needs of the parents.
That's bc Riverhead parents are freaking out and blocking younger better girls from playing up even though that is where readiness, skill and maturity level. Fortunate town to have a group of girls that are so dedicated and happy to be playing. Complete shame and sham that the school district does not acknowledge the talent have and provide an environment to nurture growth and programs.
Although I am in a neighboring district, my daughter plays these girls on a regular basis and they can definitely be impact players on at the least, a JV level team.
Thankfully my district has the forethought and responsibility to put the needs of the child first, not the needs of the parents.
Please the parents of those Riverhead 7th graders are crazy and just about everyone of those kids is small even for their grade level. Sorry but those kids do not belong on a varsity field.Skill level they could play JV but again physically they are very small and even if girls lacrosse is supposed to be non contact everyone knows their is plenty of it. Why not stay as a group and play middle school .I get bringing a kid up if it will help your varsity win , not so in most cases.
That's bc Riverhead parents are freaking out and blocking younger better girls from playing up even though that is where readiness, skill and maturity level. Fortunate town to have a group of girls that are so dedicated and happy to be playing. Complete shame and sham that the school district does not acknowledge the talent have and provide an environment to nurture growth and programs.
Although I am in a neighboring district, my daughter plays these girls on a regular basis and they can definitely be impact players on at the least, a JV level team.
Thankfully my district has the forethought and responsibility to put the needs of the child first, not the needs of the parents.
Thank you Riverhead mom or dad who wants their daughter to play up!! You had a few good years as a PAL team and now you are ready for varsity or JV?
Please advise. Looking at the policy of selective classification guidelines put forth by NYS. Is there any information, not opinion necessarily, out there that identifies what districts follow what policies. Is it the norm that most follow the current NYS policy or have some developed their own. If so, any insights as to why and what does the data show?
the standards are the standards defined by NYS(although they are old and have not been amended in a awhile). There are different standards and thresholds to reach in order to playing JV or varsity and are different for boys/girls.
Be warned each district is given the latitude to either allow MS to play up or not. That is a district policy. that is cut and dry. If they choose to allow students to play up they need to follow the standards. But as a standard a district can make their policy that the student athlete passes the Varsity level/standard/thresholds.
again the standard doesn't allow a parent to say a child is ready to play. This all starts from a coaches recommendation and the AD feeling that child is ready. The player needs to be at a certain physical maturation level. If either say they don't know; they don't have to invite a child to take the selection classification test.
Please advise. Looking at the policy of selective classification guidelines put forth by NYS. Is there any information, not opinion necessarily, out there that identifies what districts follow what policies. Is it the norm that most follow the current NYS policy or have some developed their own. If so, any insights as to why and what does the data show?
the standards are the standards defined by NYS(although they are old and have not been amended in a awhile). There are different standards and thresholds to reach in order to playing JV or varsity and are different for boys/girls.
Be warned each district is given the latitude to either allow MS to play up or not. That is a district policy. that is cut and dry. If they choose to allow students to play up they need to follow the standards. But as a standard a district can make their policy that the student athlete passes the Varsity level/standard/thresholds.
again the standard doesn't allow a parent to say a child is ready to play. This all starts from a coaches recommendation and the AD feeling that child is ready. The player needs to be at a certain physical maturation level. If either say they don't know; they don't have to invite a child to take the selection classification test.
sorry I left off the link.
http://www.p12.nysed.gov/ciai/pe/documents/scrivised2005.pdf
That's bc Riverhead parents are freaking out and blocking younger better girls from playing up even though that is where readiness, skill and maturity level. Fortunate town to have a group of girls that are so dedicated and happy to be playing. Complete shame and sham that the school district does not acknowledge the talent have and provide an environment to nurture growth and programs.
Although I am in a neighboring district, my daughter plays these girls on a regular basis and they can definitely be impact players on at the least, a JV level team.
Thankfully my district has the forethought and responsibility to put the needs of the child first, not the needs of the parents.
It's the parents of 7th & 8th graders who have "needs" to live through the kids and think that because they can catch and throw that they belong on a HS team when most of them can barely hold their own against the better players in club lax in the same age - it's all good until the 75lb kid gets steamrolled and seriously hurt and the people start asking why they were on the field with kids twice there size
That's bc Riverhead parents are freaking out and blocking younger better girls from playing up even though that is where readiness, skill and maturity level. Fortunate town to have a group of girls that are so dedicated and happy to be playing. Complete shame and sham that the school district does not acknowledge the talent have and provide an environment to nurture growth and programs.
Although I am in a neighboring district, my daughter plays these girls on a regular basis and they can definitely be impact players on at the least, a JV level team.
Thankfully my district has the forethought and responsibility to put the needs of the child first, not the needs of the parents.
It's the parents of 7th & 8th graders who have "needs" to live through the kids and think that because they can catch and throw that they belong on a HS team when most of them can barely hold their own against the better players in club lax in the same age - it's all good until the 75lb kid gets steamrolled and seriously hurt and the people start asking why they were on the field with kids twice there size
I get that but I also see players twice the size of the older players and how they will make MS unfair for the competition. I also see parents of HS players feel threatened by these young girls. try to get along is the best advise. it does work.
my advise is, as parents we need to teach those young ones that yes they do know their place. They need to pitch in and clean up after the older girls. they must know there place
That's bc Riverhead parents are freaking out and blocking younger better girls from playing up even though that is where readiness, skill and maturity level. Fortunate town to have a group of girls that are so dedicated and happy to be playing. Complete shame and sham that the school district does not acknowledge the talent have and provide an environment to nurture growth and programs.
Although I am in a neighboring district, my daughter plays these girls on a regular basis and they can definitely be impact players on at the least, a JV level team.
Thankfully my district has the forethought and responsibility to put the needs of the child first, not the needs of the parents.
It's the parents of 7th & 8th graders who have "needs" to live through the kids and think that because they can catch and throw that they belong on a HS team when most of them can barely hold their own against the better players in club lax in the same age - it's all good until the 75lb kid gets steamrolled and seriously hurt and the people start asking why they were on the field with kids twice there size
I love you bloated self important prophesiers. If a kid is good enough at any age they should play up. Many have gone on to great college careers. The parents are the problem. Shut up already!!
That's bc Riverhead parents are freaking out and blocking younger better girls from playing up even though that is where readiness, skill and maturity level. Fortunate town to have a group of girls that are so dedicated and happy to be playing. Complete shame and sham that the school district does not acknowledge the talent have and provide an environment to nurture growth and programs.
Although I am in a neighboring district, my daughter plays these girls on a regular basis and they can definitely be impact players on at the least, a JV level team.
Thankfully my district has the forethought and responsibility to put the needs of the child first, not the needs of the parents.
Played the group at a tourney over the summer at Heckzher. Coach was a tool who didn't even know rules. Girls were bullies who would get thumped at the Varsity level. Keep them playing age appropriate and let them mature, mom.
That's bc Riverhead parents are freaking out and blocking younger better girls from playing up even though that is where readiness, skill and maturity level. Fortunate town to have a group of girls that are so dedicated and happy to be playing. Complete shame and sham that the school district does not acknowledge the talent have and provide an environment to nurture growth and programs.
Although I am in a neighboring district, my daughter plays these girls on a regular basis and they can definitely be impact players on at the least, a JV level team.
Thankfully my district has the forethought and responsibility to put the needs of the child first, not the needs of the parents.
Played the group at a tourney over the summer at Heckzher. Coach was a tool who didn't even know rules. Girls were bullies who would get thumped at the Varsity level. Keep them playing age appropriate and let them mature, mom.
Let the 7th & 8th graders play middle school lacrosse, why do parents insist on getting their kids moved up? bragging rights? You have travel lacrosse for more competitive play. Let your daughter play MS with her classmates and neighbors and be a pre-teen, let her shine. She will have 4 years to play varsity.
That's bc Riverhead parents are freaking out and blocking younger better girls from playing up even though that is where readiness, skill and maturity level. Fortunate town to have a group of girls that are so dedicated and happy to be playing. Complete shame and sham that the school district does not acknowledge the talent have and provide an environment to nurture growth and programs.
Although I am in a neighboring district, my daughter plays these girls on a regular basis and they can definitely be impact players on at the least, a JV level team.
Thankfully my district has the forethought and responsibility to put the needs of the child first, not the needs of the parents.
Played the group at a tourney over the summer at Heckzher. Coach was a tool who didn't even know rules. Girls were bullies who would get thumped at the Varsity level. Keep them playing age appropriate and let them mature, mom.
Let the 7th & 8th graders play middle school lacrosse, why do parents insist on getting their kids moved up? bragging rights? You have travel lacrosse for more competitive play. Let your daughter play MS with her classmates and neighbors and be a pre-teen, let her shine. She will have 4 years to play varsity.
The problem is the middle school competition and coaching is usually a complete waste of time in terms of improving in ones sport if that kid is even descent.My daughter was moved up and it was a great experience and in my opinion an advantage over the kids from districts that don't.
That's bc Riverhead parents are freaking out and blocking younger better girls from playing up even though that is where readiness, skill and maturity level. Fortunate town to have a group of girls that are so dedicated and happy to be playing. Complete shame and sham that the school district does not acknowledge the talent have and provide an environment to nurture growth and programs.
Although I am in a neighboring district, my daughter plays these girls on a regular basis and they can definitely be impact players on at the least, a JV level team.
Thankfully my district has the forethought and responsibility to put the needs of the child first, not the needs of the parents.
Played the group at a tourney over the summer at Heckzher. Coach was a tool who didn't even know rules. Girls were bullies who would get thumped at the Varsity level. Keep them playing age appropriate and let them mature, mom.
Let the 7th & 8th graders play middle school lacrosse, why do parents insist on getting their kids moved up? bragging rights? You have travel lacrosse for more competitive play. Let your daughter play MS with her classmates and neighbors and be a pre-teen, let her shine. She will have 4 years to play varsity.
The problem is the middle school competition and coaching is usually a complete waste of time in terms of improving in ones sport if that kid is even descent.My daughter was moved up and it was a great experience and in my opinion an advantage over the kids from districts that don't.
Yes, I do agree with a few skilled 8th graders moving up, but district should cap the number or else the parents will think the whole grade (if they are good) should move up and stick together. I disagree with 7th graders on varsity, playing girls 5 and 6 years older is not OK, JV would be reasonable.
"Yes, I do agree with a few skilled 8th graders moving up, but district should cap the number or else the parents will think the whole grade (if they are good) should move up and stick together. I disagree with 7th graders on varsity, playing girls 5 and 6 years older is not OK, JV would be reasonable."
You hear a lot of people express this opinion which just seems ridiculous. First off the NYS selection classification recommendations were written in conjunction with medical doctors , athletic directors, educators etc. over the course of years, why is it you feel you know better. If a kid is skilled enough, passes the physical requirements why draw an arbitrary line between 7th and 8th grade, there are plenty of 7th graders more mentally and physically mature than 8th graders.
That's bc Riverhead parents are freaking out and blocking younger better girls from playing up even though that is where readiness, skill and maturity level. Fortunate town to have a group of girls that are so dedicated and happy to be playing. Complete shame and sham that the school district does not acknowledge the talent have and provide an environment to nurture growth and programs.
Although I am in a neighboring district, my daughter plays these girls on a regular basis and they can definitely be impact players on at the least, a JV level team.
Thankfully my district has the forethought and responsibility to put the needs of the child first, not the needs of the parents.
Played the group at a tourney over the summer at Heckzher. Coach was a tool who didn't even know rules. Girls were bullies who would get thumped at the Varsity level. Keep them playing age appropriate and let them mature, mom.
Let the 7th & 8th graders play middle school lacrosse, why do parents insist on getting their kids moved up? bragging rights? You have travel lacrosse for more competitive play. Let your daughter play MS with her classmates and neighbors and be a pre-teen, let her shine. She will have 4 years to play varsity.
The problem is the middle school competition and coaching is usually a complete waste of time in terms of improving in ones sport if that kid is even descent.My daughter was moved up and it was a great experience and in my opinion an advantage over the kids from districts that don't.
Good for you and your daughter. Unfortunately, you are the exception. Too many parents get caught up in the move to Varsity/JV. The girls get better playing, not sitting on the bench. They do not get the reps they need at Varsity practice unless they are in the top 14-15 field players.
Better to keep them playing at MS level, or JV level (as 9th grader) to keep stick in their hand. Also, keep them playing PAL or other competitive level to supplement their school lax.
In many districts kids have to wait their turn. Most Varsity coaches know what they have coming up in the system. Believe me if your daughter was that good she will be on the coaches radar. The Varsity coach will ask the AD to selectively classify a kid only when they know that that kid will get time on the field. Varsity Coaches are loyal to their upperclassmen. A good program sees the value in rewarding the players that are older and have earned the right to stand on the Varsity sideline. Most selectively classified kids should be 8th graders that get to play a year on JV. Unless your daughter is the next coming of SS then sit back and have her wait her turn.
"Yes, I do agree with a few skilled 8th graders moving up, but district should cap the number or else the parents will think the whole grade (if they are good) should move up and stick together. I disagree with 7th graders on varsity, playing girls 5 and 6 years older is not OK, JV would be reasonable."
You hear a lot of people express this opinion which just seems ridiculous. First off the NYS selection classification recommendations were written in conjunction with medical doctors , athletic directors, educators etc. over the course of years, why is it you feel you know better. If a kid is skilled enough, passes the physical requirements why draw an arbitrary line between 7th and 8th grade, there are plenty of 7th graders more mentally and physically mature than 8th graders.
How long ago was the Selective Classification process last amended or ratified. I don't think anyone should be going off of that. Players from 2005 till now are drastically different. I am sure the study was done prior to that making it over 10 years old. You cant tell me sports has changed since.
The point many are making are two fold. 1). The exceptional athlete should be given the chance to tryout. 2). The athlete should not give the MS team an overt advantage over the competitors. Both keeping safety of the child and competitors in mind.
Knowing the process, I also think the tryout "probation" period should be longer than 3 days. Now if you are questioning the difference of a player making JV and varsity I would think the probation period isn't a question. Know as far as a player playing varsity isn't there a full month of practices/scrimmages to figure out if the player is Varsity worthy. The players practice ethic and skill should tell the coach where a player belongs.
Some districts have silly requirements if a player is pulled up. ive heard the pulled up player has to play half of the game. Why? If the pulled up player is skilled enough to be the next attack or defender in but not the starting. I see no reason that player misses the opportunity to play up nor do I see an older player losing time because of a silly rule
In many districts kids have to wait their turn. Most Varsity coaches know what they have coming up in the system. Believe me if your daughter was that good she will be on the coaches radar. The Varsity coach will ask the AD to selectively classify a kid only when they know that that kid will get time on the field. Varsity Coaches are loyal to their upperclassmen. A good program sees the value in rewarding the players that are older and have earned the right to stand on the Varsity sideline. Most selectively classified kids should be 8th graders that get to play a year on JV. Unless your daughter is the next coming of SS then sit back and have her wait her turn.
Thats just idiotic, sit back and wait your turn because some kid is older. The opposite of what you are talking about happens all the time, kids that are juniors and seniors expect to be on the varsity and playing because of their age and if they know the younger kids will have to wait their turn they don't need to work hard. What do you tell the kid that is in 9th grade who is clearly better than an upperclassman , has worked harder than the upperclassman, "sit back and wait your turn". They don't do it in individual sports such as cross country, wrestling , because its obvious who the best players are , why do it in girls lacrosse.
In many districts kids have to wait their turn. Most Varsity coaches know what they have coming up in the system. Believe me if your daughter was that good she will be on the coaches radar. The Varsity coach will ask the AD to selectively classify a kid only when they know that that kid will get time on the field. Varsity Coaches are loyal to their upperclassmen. A good program sees the value in rewarding the players that are older and have earned the right to stand on the Varsity sideline. Most selectively classified kids should be 8th graders that get to play a year on JV. Unless your daughter is the next coming of SS then sit back and have her wait her turn.
I wish the process worked like that.......Our Varsity coach goes crazy for middle school girls who are on top club teams and brings them up, and has the upperclassman sit on the bench. They are not necessarily better players, but training them for the future.
LOL agree that MOST are aware, but SOME have no idea, no interest and are puppets of adults in community that pay the coach to run their "travel" team. why would they ever want to bring up the stronger, more skilled players that already play for A travel clubs that rate. There is no horizon for them with those younger players and their older "travel" team crumbles bc they younger ones would never consider that "travel" team coached by the hs coach as a viable option. It's just WEIrd
Earning the right is not an age, it is a skill set.
when are the players in your district asked to take the test and receive the forms to be filled out; is there a defined time frame to pass the stations. Does it need to be done within 30 days of the start of the season or can it be done now.
I only ask this because it could help the player and parent realize the player is not ready. As many of the girls should surpass the benchmarks the test requires, if you cant as a 7th grader no big deal. You will know what is ahead of you and the let down will not be as grave.
If the test is given just before the season the let down is to much (then you say she was not ready emotionally - I say if an 11th grader doesn't make the team she is just as emotional so it is not maturity). if the test is given well before the start of the season the player has time to either do the station over (you are allowed to take the test over as many times as reasonable) or realize you wont pass a station and MS isn't going to be that bad.
do any of you people really think a 12 yr old girl belongs in a varsity locker room with 18 yr old girls ?
LOL agree that MOST are aware, but SOME have no idea, no interest and are puppets of adults in community that pay the coach to run their "travel" team. why would they ever want to bring up the stronger, more skilled players that already play for A travel clubs that rate. There is no horizon for them with those younger players and their older "travel" team crumbles bc they younger ones would never consider that "travel" team coached by the hs coach as a viable option. It's just WEIrd
Earning the right is not an age, it is a skill set.
Do you even read the unintelligible garbage you write before you hit submit??
do any of you people really think a 12 yr old girl belongs in a varsity locker room with 18 yr old girls ?
Why is this all about varisty. The players should tak ethe varosty test so if the team makes playoof she can came up (if she excelled on JV).
but to answer your question a 12yr old girl sure, any 12 yr old girl no. I am sure there are a few. I think the issue is a bit more sticky on the boys side.
In many districts kids have to wait their turn. Most Varsity coaches know what they have coming up in the system. Believe me if your daughter was that good she will be on the coaches radar. The Varsity coach will ask the AD to selectively classify a kid only when they know that that kid will get time on the field. Varsity Coaches are loyal to their upperclassmen. A good program sees the value in rewarding the players that are older and have earned the right to stand on the Varsity sideline. Most selectively classified kids should be 8th graders that get to play a year on JV. Unless your daughter is the next coming of SS then sit back and have her wait her turn.
Thats just idiotic, sit back and wait your turn because some kid is older. The opposite of what you are talking about happens all the time, kids that are juniors and seniors expect to be on the varsity and playing because of their age and if they know the younger kids will have to wait their turn they don't need to work hard. What do you tell the kid that is in 9th grade who is clearly better than an upperclassman , has worked harder than the upperclassman, "sit back and wait your turn". They don't do it in individual sports such as cross country, wrestling , because its obvious who the best players are , why do it in girls lacrosse.
This conversation is about 7th graders playing up not a 9th grader. If the kid is in HS and is a standout they definitely deserve the spot on varsity.
There are very strong districts with lots of quality girls playing lacrosse. They probably once started as a young team and grew the program from the bottom. The one district in question is trying to block younger girls from moving up just because older girls parents are crying the older girls will be displaced. The younger girls are better and have proven it multiple times. They play travel and put a lot of time into lacrosse. Parents of the older kids have formed a team and paid cash to varsity coach, excluding any younger girl from playing. Nobody is saying these kids are superstars or the next SS. They are just asking for a shot at JV. There is no coach in place in the middle school and parents just concerned middle school season would be lost time.
There are very strong districts with lots of quality girls playing lacrosse. They probably once started as a young team and grew the program from the bottom. The one district in question is trying to block younger girls from moving up just because older girls parents are crying the older girls will be displaced. The younger girls are better and have proven it multiple times. They play travel and put a lot of time into lacrosse. Parents of the older kids have formed a team and paid cash to varsity coach, excluding any younger girl from playing. Nobody is saying these kids are superstars or the next SS. They are just asking for a shot at JV. There is no coach in place in the middle school and parents just concerned middle school season would be lost time.
Fair enough if you ask me. I come from one of the better districts. Doing this also gives another girl the chance to play in MS. Take the star player/s off of the MS team and the others step up. This builds a program its called succession planning.
Many times the player doesn't see much of the games as Varsity but does participate in practices which are more controlled. For that star player it is a good move moving up to JV. Messhin with the girls two years older more like a 7th and a 9th grader. By the time that 7th is a sophomore and that 9th grader is a senior that team should have been together a few years and w
There are very strong districts with lots of quality girls playing lacrosse. They probably once started as a young team and grew the program from the bottom. The one district in question is trying to block younger girls from moving up just because older girls parents are crying the older girls will be displaced. The younger girls are better and have proven it multiple times. They play travel and put a lot of time into lacrosse. Parents of the older kids have formed a team and paid cash to varsity coach, excluding any younger girl from playing. Nobody is saying these kids are superstars or the next SS. They are just asking for a shot at JV. There is no coach in place in the middle school and parents just concerned middle school season would be lost time.
Nice try but way too transparent , no middle school coach in place has nothing to do with it , it's about the egos of the parents involved , both older and younger kids parents . If the coach was the issue you would be demanding the school post looking for a qualified coach not complaining that you want your kids moved up.
In many districts kids have to wait their turn. Most Varsity coaches know what they have coming up in the system. Believe me if your daughter was that good she will be on the coaches radar. The Varsity coach will ask the AD to selectively classify a kid only when they know that that kid will get time on the field. Varsity Coaches are loyal to their upperclassmen. A good program sees the value in rewarding the players that are older and have earned the right to stand on the Varsity sideline. Most selectively classified kids should be 8th graders that get to play a year on JV. Unless your daughter is the next coming of SS then sit back and have her wait her turn.
Thats just idiotic, sit back and wait your turn because some kid is older. The opposite of what you are talking about happens all the time, kids that are juniors and seniors expect to be on the varsity and playing because of their age and if they know the younger kids will have to wait their turn they don't need to work hard. What do you tell the kid that is in 9th grade who is clearly better than an upperclassman , has worked harder than the upperclassman, "sit back and wait your turn". They don't do it in individual sports such as cross country, wrestling , because its obvious who the best players are , why do it in girls lacrosse.
This conversation is about 7th graders playing up not a 9th grader. If the kid is in HS and is a standout they definitely deserve the spot on varsity.
Please when you use words like upperclassmen obviously your not just talking about 7 th graders . Wait your turn is just moronic attitude , if you are the more skilled player and give your varsity a better chance to win you should play period. What school do you people go to that you are so concerned with your 12 year old daughter being in contact with 18 year old girls .Have spoken to many many parents of kids who have been moved up and have yet to hear of any problems of the type you are talking about.
There are very strong districts with lots of quality girls playing lacrosse. They probably once started as a young team and grew the program from the bottom. The one district in question is trying to block younger girls from moving up just because older girls parents are crying the older girls will be displaced. The younger girls are better and have proven it multiple times. They play travel and put a lot of time into lacrosse. Parents of the older kids have formed a team and paid cash to varsity coach, excluding any younger girl from playing. Nobody is saying these kids are superstars or the next SS. They are just asking for a shot at JV. There is no coach in place in the middle school and parents just concerned middle school season would be lost time.
Nice try but way too transparent , no middle school coach in place has nothing to do with it , it's about the egos of the parents involved , both older and younger kids parents . If the coach was the issue you would be demanding the school post looking for a qualified coach not complaining that you want your kids moved up.
okay not from the district but are you kidding me. Post demanding for a qualified MS coach. Do you hear yourself? I hope you are not from that district. As we all know that "No Coach" isnt the main issue but you cant say it is not part of the equation. I am sure that has something to do with it. but no 7th grade parent is going to demand for a MS coach over trying to get their child in "the system" ego or not.
I also don't think this forum will serve your purposes well either
Just curious how many 7th grade girls are you talking about is this so transparent that it is one or two families or is it a team of girls.
Please when you use words like upperclassmen obviously your not just talking about 7 th graders . Wait your turn is just moronic attitude , if you are the more skilled player and give your varsity a better chance to win you should play period. What school do you people go to that you are so concerned with your 12 year old daughter being in contact with 18 year old girls .Have spoken to many many parents of kids who have been moved up and have yet to hear of any problems of the type you are talking about. [/quote]
Are you kidding me ? " what school district do you people go to" . As a parent are you not concerned about what your 12 yr old daughter may see,or hear. Are your priorities that screwed up that you don't realize that " problems of that type" go on everywhere.
Please when you use words like upperclassmen obviously your not just talking about 7 th graders . Wait your turn is just moronic attitude , if you are the more skilled player and give your varsity a better chance to win you should play period. What school do you people go to that you are so concerned with your 12 year old daughter being in contact with 18 year old girls .Have spoken to many many parents of kids who have been moved up and have yet to hear of any problems of the type you are talking about.
Are you kidding me ? " what school district do you people go to" . As a parent are you not concerned about what your 12 yr old daughter may see,or hear. Are your priorities that screwed up that you don't realize that " problems of that type" go on everywhere. [/quote]
Okay then if those problems happen everywhere I guess you would not let your kids ride school busses with upperclassman or be in band , or chorus etc. Again have never heard of any issues . Yes you keep an eye on your child and have discussions but in my school district the athletes are to a very large degree responsible mature girls.
I know this is an issue in Riverhead and ESM
Please the Riverhead parents are insane , the funny thing is they have had some very successful years in the 2020 age group but only after they started to have kids play from outside the district . They have never been successful as a town team only , ever. The only times that the Riverhead town team has won anything they had kids from other towns play with them but they then claim to be a top 2020 town team .
I know this is an issue in Riverhead and ESM
Also an issue at Connetquot, but then again that coach knows nothing
Please the Riverhead parents are insane , the funny thing is they have had some very successful years in the 2020 age group but only after they started to have kids play from outside the district . They have never been successful as a town team only , ever. The only times that the Riverhead town team has won anything they had kids from other towns play with them but they then claim to be a top 2020 town team .
sausage!
I know this is an issue in Riverhead and ESM
Also an issue at Connetquot, but then again that coach knows nothing
BOTH TRUE!
I know this is an issue in Riverhead and ESM
Also an issue at Connetquot, but then again that coach knows nothing
Isn't the Connetquot coach a YJ Coach?
I know this is an issue in Riverhead and ESM
Also an issue at Connetquot, but then again that coach knows nothing
What is the issue at Connetquot? District not allowing MS girls to play?
I know this is an issue in Riverhead and ESM
Also an issue at Connetquot, but then again that coach knows nothing
Isn't the Connetquot coach a YJ Coach?
yes. that shows you that yj has some weak coaches too
There are very strong districts with lots of quality girls playing lacrosse. They probably once started as a young team and grew the program from the bottom. The one district in question is trying to block younger girls from moving up just because older girls parents are crying the older girls will be displaced. The younger girls are better and have proven it multiple times. They play travel and put a lot of time into lacrosse. Parents of the older kids have formed a team and paid cash to varsity coach, excluding any younger girl from playing. Nobody is saying these kids are superstars or the next SS. They are just asking for a shot at JV. There is no coach in place in the middle school and parents just concerned middle school season would be lost time.
News flash..... Many school districts do not have MS coaches in place. MS lacrosse/sports for that matter is a complete waste of time. Suck it up and watch little suzzie run around and dominate on the MS team and next year when she is in 8th grade she will get the call up for JV.
There are very strong districts with lots of quality girls playing lacrosse. They probably once started as a young team and grew the program from the bottom. The one district in question is trying to block younger girls from moving up just because older girls parents are crying the older girls will be displaced. The younger girls are better and have proven it multiple times. They play travel and put a lot of time into lacrosse. Parents of the older kids have formed a team and paid cash to varsity coach, excluding any younger girl from playing. Nobody is saying these kids are superstars or the next SS. They are just asking for a shot at JV. There is no coach in place in the middle school and parents just concerned middle school season would be lost time.
News flash..... Many school districts do not have MS coaches in place. MS lacrosse/sports for that matter is a complete waste of time. Suck it up and watch little suzzie run around and dominate on the MS team and next year when she is in 8th grade she will get the call up for JV.
If your kid is putting in a lot of time on travel and outside leagues then playing M.S. ball is not a waste of time. As of now your 6th grade lacrosse daughter (that is what she is as of now) has not proven a thing and is not by any means deserving of a spot even on the M.S. team, let alone a chance to play J.V. or Var. How about she try out for M.S. first and if she is truly as dominate as you say she will lead her M.S. team past every other M.S. team in sec XI including all the girls she plays with on her age appropriate club team. If they can consistently dominate all other M.S. teams then they have earned the rite to be moved up. Until then you sound like a snobbish, a@#hole, Yellow Jacket drama queen
It is not always the parents. I have a 7th grader who I would say is very strong for her own age group. We were approached by the Varsity coach to see if we would be willing to have her take the test. We have never contacted him or reached out to him in anyway. We are not going letting her as we feel there is something to be said for "time & tenure". But we by no means initiated the request. So, in some cases it may not have been "crazy" parents.
Do tell what school, im sure its not farmingdale, garden city, wantagh, manhassett, bayshore or any other top program
The kids that wear their travel team logo wear everywhere and parents who suck up usually get the first invitations to take the test. Its the mini FAF at the school level. Don't sound surprised that the coach sought you out. I am sure that you dropped your hints
Do tell what school, im sure its not farmingdale, garden city, wantagh, manhassett, bayshore or any other top program
District is irrelevant. However, it is not one of the bigger schools. I am sure it happens more with the smaller and probably does not happen at the bigger schools where there is less need for players.
The kids that wear their travel team logo wear everywhere and parents who suck up usually get the first invitations to take the test. Its the mini FAF at the school level. Don't sound surprised that the coach sought you out. I am sure that you dropped your hints
Prior to him introducing himself to us and asking us about the test, I have never spoken to the guy. So, no there was no "sucking" up happening.
The kids that wear their travel team logo wear everywhere and parents who suck up usually get the first invitations to take the test. Its the mini FAF at the school level. Don't sound surprised that the coach sought you out. I am sure that you dropped your hints
what a f'n whiner. The big schools do it. Guess your just not in the know. A few of those schools mentions did it. If you don't know which, I am sorry, guess your not as knowledgeable as you think.
The kids that wear their travel team logo wear everywhere and parents who suck up usually get the first invitations to take the test. Its the mini FAF at the school level. Don't sound surprised that the coach sought you out. I am sure that you dropped your hints
what a f'n whiner. The big schools do it. Guess your just not in the know. A few of those schools mentions did it. If you don't know which, I am sorry, guess your not as knowledgeable as you think.
Thanks YJ mom who spends way too much time "knowing" what other kids are doing in other districts than worrying about her own kid.
The kids that wear their travel team logo wear everywhere and parents who suck up usually get the first invitations to take the test. Its the mini FAF at the school level. Don't sound surprised that the coach sought you out. I am sure that you dropped your hints
what a f'n whiner. The big schools do it. Guess your just not in the know. A few of those schools mentions did it. If you don't know which, I am sorry, guess your not as knowledgeable as you think.
Thanks YJ mom who spends way too much time "knowing" what other kids are doing in other districts than worrying about her own kid.
Not sure if it a YJ mom, but the person called you out directly dispelling what you claimed. And that's your comeback? WEAK.....
The kids that wear their travel team logo wear everywhere and parents who suck up usually get the first invitations to take the test. Its the mini FAF at the school level. Don't sound surprised that the coach sought you out. I am sure that you dropped your hints
what a f'n whiner. The big schools do it. Guess your just not in the know. A few of those schools mentions did it. If you don't know which, I am sorry, guess your not as knowledgeable as you think.
Not a few, 1 Wantaugh, thats it out of the mentioned schools
The kids that wear their travel team logo wear everywhere and parents who suck up usually get the first invitations to take the test. Its the mini FAF at the school level. Don't sound surprised that the coach sought you out. I am sure that you dropped your hints
what a f'n whiner. The big schools do it. Guess your just not in the know. A few of those schools mentions did it. If you don't know which, I am sorry, guess your not as knowledgeable as you think.
Not a few, 1 Wantaugh, thats it out of the mentioned schools
West Islip has in the past but not always taken one 8th grader up from each MS to JV. 7th grade is not even an option nor should it be.
The kids that wear their travel team logo wear everywhere and parents who suck up usually get the first invitations to take the test. Its the mini FAF at the school level. Don't sound surprised that the coach sought you out. I am sure that you dropped your hints
what a f'n whiner. The big schools do it. Guess your just not in the know. A few of those schools mentions did it. If you don't know which, I am sorry, guess your not as knowledgeable as you think.
Not a few, 1 Wantaugh, thats it out of the mentioned schools
There was 1 for wantaugh another for bayshore which makes a couple.
The kids that wear their travel team logo wear everywhere and parents who suck up usually get the first invitations to take the test. Its the mini FAF at the school level. Don't sound surprised that the coach sought you out. I am sure that you dropped your hints
Your reply doesn't make sense. If they are not letting the kid take the test then why would they have been sucking up? Suck up, get invited to take the test and then say no, that doesn't seem like the best plan.
The kids that wear their travel team logo wear everywhere and parents who suck up usually get the first invitations to take the test. Its the mini FAF at the school level. Don't sound surprised that the coach sought you out. I am sure that you dropped your hints
what a f'n whiner. The big schools do it. Guess your just not in the know. A few of those schools mentions did it. If you don't know which, I am sorry, guess your not as knowledgeable as you think.
Not a few, 1 Wantaugh, thats it out of the mentioned schools
There was 1 for wantaugh another for bayshore which makes a couple.
Bayshore no longer amongst the best teams, Graduated all there best players, no goalie,and bad coaching, taking m.s. kids because they have to not because any one kid is that good, Wantaugh will soon be in the same place. G.C. , 'Set, W.M., F-dale, N-port, the true traditional powerhouses almost never do
Wantagh did not have any middle school kids on varsity
Wantagh did not have any middle school kids on varsity
goalie came up in 8th grade
I would make the argument that the bigger, better schools are a more ideal situation for pulling up a kid. If they are pulling a kid up, it is likely that the player is very strong even compared to the current roster of what you would call a powerhouSe program. If a weak program pulls a kid up because they are better than a few of the weak players that she can outplay, that is not an indication the kid is ready to play at that level. It should be a rare occurrence in any case, not a yearly thing much less multiple kids on a yearly basis. I think this thread started out talking about several kids that the parents were complaining should be moved up, doesn't sound like a good idea.
Two reasons for call ups, the really deserving kid and then the programs that need to fill JV because they need head count. The 2nd is an issue because in many instances the kids cant hold their own but they can hold a stick. Its really just about varsity
What year did this happen at Wantagh??
Wantagh did not have any middle school kids on varsity
goalie came up in 8th grade
What Wantagh Goalie came up in 8th Grade? Not the past 4 years that I know of.
School a few towns away from wantagh pulled up a handful of 8th graders to varsity. Move was questioned by some.
School a few towns away from wantagh pulled up a handful of 8th graders to varsity. Move was questioned by some.
8th graders are not the issue here. This was started by a couple of parents from Riverhead and ESM complaining that their 7th grade daughters couldn't play varsity.
No 8th goalie ever came up to varsity in the history of wantagh girls lacrosse
No 8th goalie ever came up to varsity in the history of wantagh girls lacrosse
School a few towns away from wantagh pulled up a handful of 8th graders to varsity. Move was questioned by some.
Put it out there, it was Massapequa. Moves questioned by many, not some. But we all know how politically motivated those moves were, just not going to get around it. So my advice if you live here, move on because it isn't going away for 4 more years!
I know of a couple towns that will be a young team aswell.
I believe Massapequa has a rule that middle school kids can only move up and play on the varsity....not JV.
School a few towns away from wantagh pulled up a handful of 8th graders to varsity. Move was questioned by some.
8th graders are not the issue here. This was started by a couple of parents from Riverhead and ESM complaining that their 7th grade daughters couldn't play varsity.
I honestly do not get why all you people feel you know what is best for other peoples kids. Selection classification is supposed to be about what is best for the individual child and has nothing to do with what is best for any of the teams , JV Varsity , or the program in general.If you do not feel kids should be moved up then if they ask you about your kid don't have them selectively classified, but stop bitching about other kids and parents who feel their child will benefit from it in some way. Seems like obvious jealousy or fear that some younger kid is going to take your daughters spot. Yes I have a daughter who was moved up and was great experience, was asked to be moved up in another sport but elected not to be as she wanted to play in middle school with her friends and is not a sport she is as committed to.Stop worrying about what other parents feel is the best choice for their kids it comes across as petty jealousy.
School a few towns away from wantagh pulled up a handful of 8th graders to varsity. Move was questioned by some.
8th graders are not the issue here. This was started by a couple of parents from Riverhead and ESM complaining that their 7th grade daughters couldn't play varsity.
I honestly do not get why all you people feel you know what is best for other peoples kids. Selection classification is supposed to be about what is best for the individual child and has nothing to do with what is best for any of the teams , JV Varsity , or the program in general.If you do not feel kids should be moved up then if they ask you about your kid don't have them selectively classified, but stop bitching about other kids and parents who feel their child will benefit from it in some way. Seems like obvious jealousy or fear that some younger kid is going to take your daughters spot. Yes I have a daughter who was moved up and was great experience, was asked to be moved up in another sport but elected not to be as she wanted to play in middle school with her friends and is not a sport she is as committed to.Stop worrying about what other parents feel is the best choice for their kids it comes across as petty jealousy.
Do you really think the kids are being brought up because it's what's best for the KID, and not what's best for the TEAM she's being brought up to? Most situations are the opposite. Why would it be bad for a strong player to spend a year on the middle school team with her classmates? It really depends on each individual situation, quality & quantity of players available, strength of the teams, who the coach is, etc.
I'm sure most of this is coming from parents who don't want their kids to lose a spot to a younger kid. That's what parents do - look out for their kids' best interests. Mine was brought up too but I definitely see the point of the people on the other side. Especially if it's a case where the player is brought up and doesn't dominate or make any more of an impact as the older kid would have.
I believe Massapequa has a rule that middle school kids can only move up and play on the varsity....not JV.
Most schools are the opposite. Kids can only go up to JV
WI does it and the kids they bring up almost always contribute and almost immediately for that matter. I dont consider them a powerhouse but the underclassmen assisted in their run to the state final last year. Lets be honest most of us do not agree with bring girls up, but most of the time you can say to yourself that the girl deserved it. There is a lot of talented girls on Long Island.
Do you really think the kids are being brought up because it's what's best for the KID, and not what's best for the TEAM she's being brought up to? Most situations are the opposite. Why would it be bad for a strong player to spend a year on the middle school team with her classmates? It really depends on each individual situation, quality & quantity of players available, strength of the teams, who the coach is, etc.
I'm sure most of this is coming from parents who don't want their kids to lose a spot to a younger kid. That's what parents do - look out for their kids' best interests. Mine was brought up too but I definitely see the point of the people on the other side. Especially if it's a case where the player is brought up and doesn't dominate or make any more of an impact as the older kid would have.
Again that's just seems so silly, your kid was brought up and was dominant ? Then she was not brought up in the past 4 years because no 7-8th grader has dominated. If its better for the kids development as a player to play JV or Varsity , regardless of age , then that is where the kid should be as long as the coach ,AD, and parent are all in agreement. As far as making more of an impact than the older kid , that's up to the coach to decide and a young player developing is rarely about them being dominant its really about them playing at a level that they can compete at but that is also challenging for them.
Do you really think the kids are being brought up because it's what's best for the KID, and not what's best for the TEAM she's being brought up to? Most situations are the opposite. Why would it be bad for a strong player to spend a year on the middle school team with her classmates? It really depends on each individual situation, quality & quantity of players available, strength of the teams, who the coach is, etc.
I'm sure most of this is coming from parents who don't want their kids to lose a spot to a younger kid. That's what parents do - look out for their kids' best interests. Mine was brought up too but I definitely see the point of the people on the other side. Especially if it's a case where the player is brought up and doesn't dominate or make any more of an impact as the older kid would have.
Again that's just seems so silly, your kid was brought up and was dominant ? Then she was not brought up in the past 4 years because no 7-8th grader has dominated. If its better for the kids development as a player to play JV or Varsity , regardless of age , then that is where the kid should be as long as the coach ,AD, and parent are all in agreement. As far as making more of an impact than the older kid , that's up to the coach to decide and a young player developing is rarely about them being dominant its really about them playing at a level that they can compete at but that is also challenging for them.
However, it is a big problem when you have an incompetent athletic director, coach who has no involvement or touch with reality on what is going on in that district. On top of that a coach who bypasses players that would have a better impact physically then younger player, maybe not as much skill but sometimes you just need those bigger bodies in there to play. Nothing wrong with playing JV a year or even middle school. Last time I checked girls are still getting recruited out of travel and how they are performing over the summer and fall.
Almost no kid gets recruited off of H.S. team, it all happens during the summer with very few exceptions f(Manhasset, McDonough). It has nothing to do with a players development because that happens during club season. It,s a load of crap when parents say it's to teach them how to play against older competition because the oldest she will play against in college is a red shirt, and that is only 1 year, so basically if she starts on varsity as a freshman in H.S. she is playing against the same age range as she would in college. with all that being said, their is only 2 reasons for a kid to be brought up to Var. in 7th grade
1. so the parents can brag about how good their kid is
2. so the school can win.
If you think the school cares about you daughters development your a fool. in the N.Y. state standards it never says that the school psychologist gets to determine if the child is ready, only the principal (an administrator) the coach and A.D (both want to win at any cost) and the parent (who needs to brag on the sideline) a recipe for disaster.
Really you think your child develops better during the club season participating in one practice a week being coached by a college kid? The recruiting part yes, child developing as a player is done during high school, where the player is practicing 5-6 times a week, defensive strategy is developed and the coaches focusing on team play and winning. Watch any club team all the emphasis is put on the offense and scoring too much individual effort, watch a high school game & you will notice the difference. Maybe you can explain to me how the child develops during the club season I am open to opinions. Parents bragging on the sidelines that their child was brought up on varisty what school and believe it or not some kids earned their right.
Really you think your child develops better during the club season participating in one practice a week being coached by a college kid? The recruiting part yes, child developing as a player is done during high school, where the player is practicing 5-6 times a week, defensive strategy is developed and the coaches focusing on team play and winning. Watch any club team all the emphasis is put on the offense and scoring too much individual effort, watch a high school game & you will notice the difference. Maybe you can explain to me how the child develops during the club season I am open to opinions. Parents bragging on the sidelines that their child was brought up on varisty what school and believe it or not some kids earned their right.
We had the opposite experience. Take a gander at the years of posts about poor HS coaching. What you say ma be true for some but it certanly depends on the coaches of both HS and club.
Really you think your child develops better during the club season participating in one practice a week being coached by a college kid? The recruiting part yes, child developing as a player is done during high school, where the player is practicing 5-6 times a week, defensive strategy is developed and the coaches focusing on team play and winning. Watch any club team all the emphasis is put on the offense and scoring too much individual effort, watch a high school game & you will notice the difference. Maybe you can explain to me how the child develops during the club season I am open to opinions. Parents bragging on the sidelines that their child was brought up on varisty what school and believe it or not some kids earned their right.
This all depends on what HS and what club team.
Earned their right ? What ever happened to Middle school, then High School, then college ? What a mess we have created.
explain to me haw a 7th grader earned the right to be on varsity? Did they play better than every other P.A.L. kid? Have you witnessed many H.S. practices? Same drill run by coach over and over, good for fundamentals, but I thought we were talking about advanced players that could already pass and catch? A 2 hour practice with a good coach that teaches plays, strategy , and advances your lax I.Q. is far better than running line drills, and shooting drills 2hours a day 5 days a week. Lets face it, if your kid is going to be pulled up it's because your in a weak lacrosse school, and line and shooting drills will be order of the day every day.
explain to me haw a 7th grader earned the right to be on varsity? Did they play better than every other P.A.L. kid? Have you witnessed many H.S. practices? Same drill run by coach over and over, good for fundamentals, but I thought we were talking about advanced players that could already pass and catch? A 2 hour practice with a good coach that teaches plays, strategy , and advances your lax I.Q. is far better than running line drills, and shooting drills 2hours a day 5 days a week. Lets face it, if your kid is going to be pulled up it's because your in a weak lacrosse school, and line and shooting drills will be order of the day every day.
Agreed 100%!
Really you think your child develops better during the club season participating in one practice a week being coached by a college kid? The recruiting part yes, child developing as a player is done during high school, where the player is practicing 5-6 times a week, defensive strategy is developed and the coaches focusing on team play and winning. Watch any club team all the emphasis is put on the offense and scoring too much individual effort, watch a high school game & you will notice the difference. Maybe you can explain to me how the child develops during the club season I am open to opinions. Parents bragging on the sidelines that their child was brought up on varisty what school and believe it or not some kids earned their right.
We had the opposite experience. Take a gander at the years of posts about poor HS coaching. What you say ma be true for some but it certanly depends on the coaches of both HS and club.
Exactly!
You really think a two hour practice once a week teaches strategy and advances your lacrosse IQ? Then I feel sorry for the high school your daughter plays for. I do watch a lot of high level high school games and the coaches know what they are doing. You practice what you preach. Lets be honest here, the officiating at the club level leaves a lot to the imagination,defense at the club level is a joke compared to how defense is played at the high school level. You do not need a coach to run line drills and shooting drills all you need is a wall and a net. You need a coach to develop your offense, defense, clears and rides as well as your sportsmanship and overall team play. If you can do that in 2 hours once a week than you chose the right club.
You really think a two hour practice once a week teaches strategy and advances your lacrosse IQ? Then I feel sorry for the high school your daughter plays for. I do watch a lot of high level high school games and the coaches know what they are doing. You practice what you preach. Lets be honest here, the officiating at the club level leaves a lot to the imagination,defense at the club level is a joke compared to how defense is played at the high school level. You do not need a coach to run line drills and shooting drills all you need is a wall and a net. You need a coach to develop your offense, defense, clears and rides as well as your sportsmanship and overall team play. If you can do that in 2 hours once a week than you chose the right club.
If your lucky enough to play for one of the to 7 or 8 high schools then good for you, but as a whole H.S.teams are not that good at defense and have no Offensive strategy,. Club practices are much better because, presumably, every girl all ready plays at a high level, therefore, the 1 hour of line and shooting drills are kept to a 5 min. warm up. You obversely don't watch many H.S. games on L.I. because the officiating becomes various from game to game, the same refs aren't even consistent game to game. Just for giggles, as a poll, where is it worse Nassau of Suffolk? my daughter is finished with both club and H.S. and I can tell you that without question she got more out of club practice than H.S. If your daughter is opposite than your at one of these schools
E.I.
Nport
'set
G.C.
E.S.M.
Mt. S
Oside
Fdale
sachem E
stown E&W
W.I.
csh
Haup
Hunt.
sayville
swr
wantaugh
good for her but at most schools thats not the case. because that list is less than 20 schools in 3 div. when there are 98 public schools competing on L.I.
explain to me haw a 7th grader earned the right to be on varsity? Did they play better than every other P.A.L. kid? Have you witnessed many H.S. practices? Same drill run by coach over and over, good for fundamentals, but I thought we were talking about advanced players that could already pass and catch? A 2 hour practice with a good coach that teaches plays, strategy , and advances your lax I.Q. is far better than running line drills, and shooting drills 2hours a day 5 days a week. Lets face it, if your kid is going to be pulled up it's because your in a weak lacrosse school, and line and shooting drills will be order of the day every day.
It just shows what an ignorant moron you are. Its simple they earn it because they have put in the time to be a better more skilled player than the older kid. Many coaches are involved with their teams in the fall and get a look at these younger kids. The top seeded team in section xi has brought kids up for years as has the top seeded c team in suffolk (not sure about the B teams). You come across as a weasel who knows there are kids who will take your kids spot but feel she has earned the spot because she has been thru more what you seem to feel are useless practices, makes no sense.
explain to me haw a 7th grader earned the right to be on varsity? Did they play better than every other P.A.L. kid? Have you witnessed many H.S. practices? Same drill run by coach over and over, good for fundamentals, but I thought we were talking about advanced players that could already pass and catch? A 2 hour practice with a good coach that teaches plays, strategy , and advances your lax I.Q. is far better than running line drills, and shooting drills 2hours a day 5 days a week. Lets face it, if your kid is going to be pulled up it's because your in a weak lacrosse school, and line and shooting drills will be order of the day every day.
It just shows what an ignorant moron you are. Its simple they earn it because they have put in the time to be a better more skilled player than the older kid. Many coaches are involved with their teams in the fall and get a look at these younger kids. The top seeded team in section xi has brought kids up for years as has the top seeded c team in suffolk (not sure about the B teams). You come across as a weasel who knows there are kids who will take your kids spot but feel she has earned the spot because she has been thru more what you seem to feel are useless practices, makes no sense.
My kid is almost done, and never missed a varsity start from freshman year on. Unlike you I didn't feel the need to live through my kid, though I throughly enjoyed every minuet of watching her play. In checking the schedule I see that your outstanding 7th grader will be playing my daughter, and I am looking forward to seeing these well accomplished athletes you think have earned a spot on a varsity team take on my daughter. to make it more interesting, it happens late in the season so you will have no excuses. as far as being a moron , it is you that is uninformed and caught in a lie. N.Y.S does not allow coaches to particapate in, or mandate practice, and can not actively take place in the recruitment of players : I.E. non high school age kids, out of season. So with that being said your either lying, or you just screwed your coach, here are the rules as they are written
VII. Out of Season Practice Policy
On May 24, 2000, the Section XI Athletic Council eliminated the Section XI Out of Season Practice Policy (sometimes referred to as the 49% rule) entirely!
Understand, however, that this action does not necessarily make practicing out of season OK. Schools are still bound by the NYSPHSAA regulations. They are:
NYSPHSAA REGULATION - PRACTICE SESSIONS:
a. An organized practice in grades 7-12 is a session for the purpose of providing instruction and practice in physical conditioning activities, skills, team play, and game strategy designed expressly for that sport under the supervision of a qualified coach appointed by the Board of Education of the local school district. Such instruction and practice shall be held only during the season designated for that sport.
c. School sponsored activities conducted out of the sport season such as general conditioning, weight training, weight lifting, intramurals, recreation, open gyms, club activities and camps are permitted: 1. If such programs are not mandated by coaches or school personnel; 2. If such programs are available to all students.
d. Non-school sponsored activities are permitted if such programs are not mandated by coaches or school personnel. It is recommended that no school equipment be used for these programs as per State Comptroller Opinion 85-37.
Rev 5/11
VIII. Recruiting of Athletes
To maintain the educational standards and dignity of our academic and athletic programs, all member schools of Section XI must refrain from practices such as recruitments, enticements, inducements, or other pressures which encourage students for athletic purposes to leave or not to enter their schools of normal enrollment or schools in which they are enrolled.
Schools alleged to be in violation will be referred to the Ethics Committee.
Upon request, member schools that receive tuition must make available to Section XI all records of financial aid to athletes.
You really think a two hour practice once a week teaches strategy and advances your lacrosse IQ? Then I feel sorry for the high school your daughter plays for. I do watch a lot of high level high school games and the coaches know what they are doing. You practice what you preach. Lets be honest here, the officiating at the club level leaves a lot to the imagination,defense at the club level is a joke compared to how defense is played at the high school level. You do not need a coach to run line drills and shooting drills all you need is a wall and a net. You need a coach to develop your offense, defense, clears and rides as well as your sportsmanship and overall team play. If you can do that in 2 hours once a week than you chose the right club.
If your lucky enough to play for one of the to 7 or 8 high schools then good for you, but as a whole H.S.teams are not that good at defense and have no Offensive strategy,. Club practices are much better because, presumably, every girl all ready plays at a high level, therefore, the 1 hour of line and shooting drills are kept to a 5 min. warm up. You obversely don't watch many H.S. games on L.I. because the officiating becomes various from game to game, the same refs aren't even consistent game to game. Just for giggles, as a poll, where is it worse Nassau of Suffolk? my daughter is finished with both club and H.S. and I can tell you that without question she got more out of club practice than H.S. If your daughter is opposite than your at one of these schools
E.I.
Nport
'set
G.C.
E.S.M.
Mt. S
Oside
Fdale
sachem E
stown E&W
W.I.
csh
Haup
Hunt.
sayville
swr
wantaugh
good for her but at most schools thats not the case. because that list is less than 20 schools in 3 div. when there are 98 public schools competing on L.I.
agreed. my daughter's school (one of the largest) is not on your list and she definitely gets more from club than HS. HS coach doesn't know what he's doing. she's relying mostly on outside training, hard work at home, and club team for improvement and recruiting. HS lax keeps the stick in her hand, keeps her around good kids, good for school spirit & pride, and helps with conditioning.
explain to me haw a 7th grader earned the right to be on varsity? Did they play better than every other P.A.L. kid? Have you witnessed many H.S. practices? Same drill run by coach over and over, good for fundamentals, but I thought we were talking about advanced players that could already pass and catch? A 2 hour practice with a good coach that teaches plays, strategy , and advances your lax I.Q. is far better than running line drills, and shooting drills 2hours a day 5 days a week. Lets face it, if your kid is going to be pulled up it's because your in a weak lacrosse school, and line and shooting drills will be order of the day every day.
It just shows what an ignorant moron you are. Its simple they earn it because they have put in the time to be a better more skilled player than the older kid. Many coaches are involved with their teams in the fall and get a look at these younger kids. The top seeded team in section xi has brought kids up for years as has the top seeded c team in suffolk (not sure about the B teams). You come across as a weasel who knows there are kids who will take your kids spot but feel she has earned the spot because she has been thru more what you seem to feel are useless practices, makes no sense.
My kid is almost done, and never missed a varsity start from freshman year on. Unlike you I didn't feel the need to live through my kid, though I throughly enjoyed every minuet of watching her play. In checking the schedule I see that your outstanding 7th grader will be playing my daughter, and I am looking forward to seeing these well accomplished athletes you think have earned a spot on a varsity team take on my daughter. to make it more interesting, it happens late in the season so you will have no excuses. as far as being a moron , it is you that is uninformed and caught in a lie. N.Y.S does not allow coaches to particapate in, or mandate practice, and can not actively take place in the recruitment of players : I.E. non high school age kids, out of season. So with that being said your either lying, or you just screwed your coach, here are the rules as they are written
VII. Out of Season Practice Policy
On May 24, 2000, the Section XI Athletic Council eliminated the Section XI Out of Season Practice Policy (sometimes referred to as the 49% rule) entirely!
Understand, however, that this action does not necessarily make practicing out of season OK. Schools are still bound by the NYSPHSAA regulations. They are:
NYSPHSAA REGULATION - PRACTICE SESSIONS:
a. An organized practice in grades 7-12 is a session for the purpose of providing instruction and practice in physical conditioning activities, skills, team play, and game strategy designed expressly for that sport under the supervision of a qualified coach appointed by the Board of Education of the local school district. Such instruction and practice shall be held only during the season designated for that sport.
c. School sponsored activities conducted out of the sport season such as general conditioning, weight training, weight lifting, intramurals, recreation, open gyms, club activities and camps are permitted: 1. If such programs are not mandated by coaches or school personnel; 2. If such programs are available to all students.
d. Non-school sponsored activities are permitted if such programs are not mandated by coaches or school personnel. It is recommended that no school equipment be used for these programs as per State Comptroller Opinion 85-37.
Rev 5/11
VIII. Recruiting of Athletes
To maintain the educational standards and dignity of our academic and athletic programs, all member schools of Section XI must refrain from practices such as recruitments, enticements, inducements, or other pressures which encourage students for athletic purposes to leave or not to enter their schools of normal enrollment or schools in which they are enrolled.
Schools alleged to be in violation will be referred to the Ethics Committee.
Upon request, member schools that receive tuition must make available to Section XI all records of financial aid to athletes.
With every thing you post you just show what a moron you are. A high school coach is allowed to have open stick skill sessions etc. that are open to any age groups he or she wishes .Go to any of the out of season tournaments or leagues and you will see plenty of actual high school coaches on the sidelines with kids in middle school age groups playing among the high school elite.As far as playing against your high school age stud , I have no idea who your kid is so please give me a clue so my middle school kid can abuse her because by your comments its obvious she has never been considered elite. Please keep posting your ignorant posts about rules you have no idea about.
explain to me haw a 7th grader earned the right to be on varsity? Did they play better than every other P.A.L. kid? Have you witnessed many H.S. practices? Same drill run by coach over and over, good for fundamentals, but I thought we were talking about advanced players that could already pass and catch? A 2 hour practice with a good coach that teaches plays, strategy , and advances your lax I.Q. is far better than running line drills, and shooting drills 2hours a day 5 days a week. Lets face it, if your kid is going to be pulled up it's because your in a weak lacrosse school, and line and shooting drills will be order of the day every day.
It just shows what an ignorant moron you are. Its simple they earn it because they have put in the time to be a better more skilled player than the older kid. Many coaches are involved with their teams in the fall and get a look at these younger kids. The top seeded team in section xi has brought kids up for years as has the top seeded c team in suffolk (not sure about the B teams). You come across as a weasel who knows there are kids who will take your kids spot but feel she has earned the spot because she has been thru more what you seem to feel are useless practices, makes no sense.
My kid is almost done, and never missed a varsity start from freshman year on. Unlike you I didn't feel the need to live through my kid, though I throughly enjoyed every minuet of watching her play. In checking the schedule I see that your outstanding 7th grader will be playing my daughter, and I am looking forward to seeing these well accomplished athletes you think have earned a spot on a varsity team take on my daughter. to make it more interesting, it happens late in the season so you will have no excuses. as far as being a moron , it is you that is uninformed and caught in a lie. N.Y.S does not allow coaches to particapate in, or mandate practice, and can not actively take place in the recruitment of players : I.E. non high school age kids, out of season. So with that being said your either lying, or you just screwed your coach, here are the rules as they are written
VII. Out of Season Practice Policy
On May 24, 2000, the Section XI Athletic Council eliminated the Section XI Out of Season Practice Policy (sometimes referred to as the 49% rule) entirely!
Understand, however, that this action does not necessarily make practicing out of season OK. Schools are still bound by the NYSPHSAA regulations. They are:
NYSPHSAA REGULATION - PRACTICE SESSIONS:
a. An organized practice in grades 7-12 is a session for the purpose of providing instruction and practice in physical conditioning activities, skills, team play, and game strategy designed expressly for that sport under the supervision of a qualified coach appointed by the Board of Education of the local school district. Such instruction and practice shall be held only during the season designated for that sport.
c. School sponsored activities conducted out of the sport season such as general conditioning, weight training, weight lifting, intramurals, recreation, open gyms, club activities and camps are permitted: 1. If such programs are not mandated by coaches or school personnel; 2. If such programs are available to all students.
d. Non-school sponsored activities are permitted if such programs are not mandated by coaches or school personnel. It is recommended that no school equipment be used for these programs as per State Comptroller Opinion 85-37.
Rev 5/11
VIII. Recruiting of Athletes
To maintain the educational standards and dignity of our academic and athletic programs, all member schools of Section XI must refrain from practices such as recruitments, enticements, inducements, or other pressures which encourage students for athletic purposes to leave or not to enter their schools of normal enrollment or schools in which they are enrolled.
Schools alleged to be in violation will be referred to the Ethics Committee.
Upon request, member schools that receive tuition must make available to Section XI all records of financial aid to athletes.
Dude you really are making yourself seem clueless. Many coaches hold off season workouts and put teams in tournaments and leagues in which they get a look at kids who are coming up , its just that these things are not mandatory. Actually it works against the point you are so feebly trying to make in that a lot of time the upperclassmen who are not committed to lax do not attend while these middle school kids show to everything trying to prove themselves.You may want to think these things thru prior to posting.
[quote=Anonymous]You really think a two hour practice once a week teaches strategy and advances your lacrosse IQ? Then I feel sorry for the high school your daughter plays for. I do watch a lot of high level high school games and the coaches know what they are doing. You practice what you preach. Lets be honest here, the officiating at the club level leaves a lot to the imagination,defense at the club level is a joke compared to how defense is played at the high school level. You do not need a coach to run line drills and shooting drills all you need is a wall and a net. You need a coach to develop your offense, defense, clears and rides as well as your sportsmanship and overall team play. If you can do that in 2 hours once a week than you chose the right club.
If your lucky enough to play for one of the to 7 or 8 high schools then good for you, but as a whole H.S.teams are not that good at defense and have no Offensive strategy,. Club practices are much better because, presumably, every girl all ready plays at a high level, therefore, the 1 hour of line and shooting drills are kept to a 5 min. warm up. You obversely don't watch many H.S. games on L.I. because the officiating becomes various from game to game, the same refs aren't even consistent game to game. Just for giggles, as a poll, where is it worse Nassau of Suffolk? my daughter is finished with both club and H.S. and I can tell you that without question she got more out of club practice than H.S. If your daughter is opposite than your at one of these schools
E.I.
Nport
'set
G.C.
E.S.M.
Mt. S
Oside
Fdale
sachem E
stown E&W
W.I.
csh
Haup
Hunt.
sayville
swr
wantaugh
good for her but at most schools thats not the case. because that list is less than 20 schools in 3 div. when there are 98 public schools competing on L.I.
Agreed. My daughter's school (one of the largest) is not on your list and she definitely gets more from club than HS. HS coach doesn't know what he's doing. she's relying mostly on outside training, hard work at home, and club team for improvement and recruiting. HS lax keeps the stick in her hand, keeps her around good kids, good for school spirit & pride, and helps with conditioning. [/quote
Exactly. My daughter brought a play to her HS team that was successful in her club, HS coach blew her off (no challenging his power), then ten days later he introduced the same play to the team as if it was new. My point being that many HS coaches don't have a very high lax IQ and the girls learn far more at their clubs.
Every school is on the high wire with "open gyms and off season weight training" most coaches are way too close
I actually do watch a lot of games and if your going to blame the officials everytime it does not go the way you wish your in for a long season. Its not an easy game to officiate but the High School game is much better officiated than the club games. Obviously the more skilled the teams the better officiated the game. Another thing to consider when your daughters are coached properly
explain to me haw a 7th grader earned the right to be on varsity? Did they play better than every other P.A.L. kid? Have you witnessed many H.S. practices? Same drill run by coach over and over, good for fundamentals, but I thought we were talking about advanced players that could already pass and catch? A 2 hour practice with a good coach that teaches plays, strategy , and advances your lax I.Q. is far better than running line drills, and shooting drills 2hours a day 5 days a week. Lets face it, if your kid is going to be pulled up it's because your in a weak lacrosse school, and line and shooting drills will be order of the day every day.
It just shows what an ignorant moron you are. Its simple they earn it because they have put in the time to be a better more skilled player than the older kid. Many coaches are involved with their teams in the fall and get a look at these younger kids. The top seeded team in section xi has brought kids up for years as has the top seeded c team in suffolk (not sure about the B teams). You come across as a weasel who knows there are kids who will take your kids spot but feel she has earned the spot because she has been thru more what you seem to feel are useless practices, makes no sense.
My kid is almost done, and never missed a varsity start from freshman year on. Unlike you I didn't feel the need to live through my kid, though I throughly enjoyed every minuet of watching her play. In checking the schedule I see that your outstanding 7th grader will be playing my daughter, and I am looking forward to seeing these well accomplished athletes you think have earned a spot on a varsity team take on my daughter. to make it more interesting, it happens late in the season so you will have no excuses. as far as being a moron , it is you that is uninformed and caught in a lie. N.Y.S does not allow coaches to particapate in, or mandate practice, and can not actively take place in the recruitment of players : I.E. non high school age kids, out of season. So with that being said your either lying, or you just screwed your coach, here are the rules as they are written
VII. Out of Season Practice Policy
On May 24, 2000, the Section XI Athletic Council eliminated the Section XI Out of Season Practice Policy (sometimes referred to as the 49% rule) entirely!
Understand, however, that this action does not necessarily make practicing out of season OK. Schools are still bound by the NYSPHSAA regulations. They are:
NYSPHSAA REGULATION - PRACTICE SESSIONS:
a. An organized practice in grades 7-12 is a session for the purpose of providing instruction and practice in physical conditioning activities, skills, team play, and game strategy designed expressly for that sport under the supervision of a qualified coach appointed by the Board of Education of the local school district. Such instruction and practice shall be held only during the season designated for that sport.
c. School sponsored activities conducted out of the sport season such as general conditioning, weight training, weight lifting, intramurals, recreation, open gyms, club activities and camps are permitted: 1. If such programs are not mandated by coaches or school personnel; 2. If such programs are available to all students.
d. Non-school sponsored activities are permitted if such programs are not mandated by coaches or school personnel. It is recommended that no school equipment be used for these programs as per State Comptroller Opinion 85-37.
Rev 5/11
VIII. Recruiting of Athletes
To maintain the educational standards and dignity of our academic and athletic programs, all member schools of Section XI must refrain from practices such as recruitments, enticements, inducements, or other pressures which encourage students for athletic purposes to leave or not to enter their schools of normal enrollment or schools in which they are enrolled.
Schools alleged to be in violation will be referred to the Ethics Committee.
Upon request, member schools that receive tuition must make available to Section XI all records of financial aid to athletes.
Dude you really are making yourself seem clueless. Many coaches hold off season workouts and put teams in tournaments and leagues in which they get a look at kids who are coming up , its just that these things are not mandatory. Actually it works against the point you are so feebly trying to make in that a lot of time the upperclassmen who are not committed to lax do not attend while these middle school kids show to everything trying to prove themselves.You may want to think these things thru prior to posting.
So true - our HS coach is running winter training and all of the MS parents and players are so far up her *ss to get attention and to try to get "seen" by her. It's really quite funny to watch them kiss *ss and line her pockets with the hopes that they will get pulled up.
The basic rule of thumb should be - is this kid a potential starter who can make a real impact. If not leave them in MS or JV and let them play rather than riding the bench. However, many of these parents are already the ones who love to talk about their daughter's success in club which in reality is their daughter's team's success. Same parents who are so excited to win a championship at XYZ Tournament but there daughter did not step on the field in the playoffs.
There are only a handful of truly elite players but parent's will disagree.
There are NO 7th graders that can match up with a legit 11-12th grade varsity starter. They will never be able to run with the midfielders and they will be dominated by good defenders if they play attack.
The funny part is that most of these 7th and 8th graders that are looking to go up were held back in the first place. Parents hold these kids back to give them an advanatage then want them to play up because middle school is not a challenge.
It's a joke.
There are NO 7th graders that can match up with a legit 11-12th grade varsity starter. They will never be able to run with the midfielders and they will be dominated by good defenders if they play attack.
Please tell me the team that has a full team of these legit 11-12th graders that no 7th grader in the country can compete with, there are none . Yes there are teams and players that even the top 7 the graders would struggle against but so would just about every other high school player. Why do you think it's different than other sports especially considering it is a non contact sport by rule. In all individual sports in high school where opinion means nothing there are 7-8th graders that compete with the best of them , it's just in girls lacrosse you have parents such as yourself that are so blinded by jealousy they can't actually see the talent of other kids. What team does your daughter play on so I can laugh when some 7 the grader lights her up.
There are NO 7th graders that can match up with a legit 11-12th grade varsity starter. They will never be able to run with the midfielders and they will be dominated by good defenders if they play attack.
Please tell me the team that has a full team of these legit 11-12th graders that no 7th grader in the country can compete with, there are none . Yes there are teams and players that even the top 7 the graders would struggle against but so would just about every other high school player. Why do you think it's different than other sports especially considering it is a non contact sport by rule. In all individual sports in high school where opinion means nothing there are 7-8th graders that compete with the best of them , it's just in girls lacrosse you have parents such as yourself that are so blinded by jealousy they can't actually see the talent of other kids. What team does your daughter play on so I can laugh when some 7 the grader lights her up.
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
There are NO 7th graders that can match up with a legit 11-12th grade varsity starter. They will never be able to run with the midfielders and they will be dominated by good defenders if they play attack.
Please tell me the team that has a full team of these legit 11-12th graders that no 7th grader in the country can compete with, there are none . Yes there are teams and players that even the top 7 the graders would struggle against but so would just about every other high school player. Why do you think it's different than other sports especially considering it is a non contact sport by rule. In all individual sports in high school where opinion means nothing there are 7-8th graders that compete with the best of them , it's just in girls lacrosse you have parents such as yourself that are so blinded by jealousy they can't actually see the talent of other kids. What team does your daughter play on so I can laugh when some 7 the grader lights her up.
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Agree 100%. Upperclassman are that much bigger, what I call "womanized" than a 7th grader, no matter how tall she is. They are just physically dominant. And they're more experienced and confident. Any 7th grader who tries to dodge the net everytime she gets the ball because that's what works in club is going to have her [lacrosse] handed to her.
Unless your from Rocky Point and your daughter plays for the Lady Eagle which may I add is coached by a dedicated parent who should really be the Varsity HEAD coach , most would tell you everyone of those 7th / 8th graders are far more superior then any Varsity player from 10 - 12th grade in the district and are coached to play against any level of competition , which again was molded by the youth organization who does a phenomenal job with the program without any help from varsity coaches
There are NO 7th graders that can match up with a legit 11-12th grade varsity starter. They will never be able to run with the midfielders and they will be dominated by good defenders if they play attack.
Please tell me the team that has a full team of these legit 11-12th graders that no 7th grader in the country can compete with, there are none . Yes there are teams and players that even the top 7 the graders would struggle against but so would just about every other high school player. Why do you think it's different than other sports especially considering it is a non contact sport by rule. In all individual sports in high school where opinion means nothing there are 7-8th graders that compete with the best of them , it's just in girls lacrosse you have parents such as yourself that are so blinded by jealousy they can't actually see the talent of other kids. What team does your daughter play on so I can laugh when some 7 the grader lights her up.
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Agree 100%. Upperclassman are that much bigger, what I call "womanized" than a 7th grader, no matter how tall she is. They are just physically dominant. And they're more experienced and confident. Any 7th grader who tries to dodge the net everytime she gets the ball because that's what works in club is going to have her [lacrosse] handed to her.
Maybe this is a stupid question but what would the advantage be for a varsity coach to move a girl up unless they felt they would be at least somewhat successful? I can't imagine coaches would take any 7th/8th grader up unless they were truly a "special" player. Why would she/he waste their time?
Maybe this is a stupid question but what would the advantage be for a varsity coach to move a girl up unless they felt they would be at least somewhat successful? I can't imagine coaches would take any 7th/8th grader up unless they were truly a "special" player. Why would she/he waste their time?
POLITICS
If a 7/8 grader gets pulled up to varsity it is usually from a weak district with a bad youth program. It is extremely rare for it to happen in a strong program
Really?
You my dear follower are dilusional. Unfortunately the drop out rate of rp high school girls lax players due to the poorly ran high school program , leaves no choice but to fill the void . In this instance an organized youth program makes it easier for varsity coach run a team that runs itself with minumal effort
Unless your from Rocky Point and your daughter plays for the Lady Eagle which may I add is coached by a dedicated parent who should really be the Varsity HEAD coach , most would tell you everyone of those 7th / 8th graders are far more superior then any Varsity player from 10 - 12th grade in the district and are coached to play against any level of competition , which again was molded by the youth organization who does a phenomenal job with the program without any help from varsity coaches
There are NO 7th graders that can match up with a legit 11-12th grade varsity starter. They will never be able to run with the midfielders and they will be dominated by good defenders if they play attack.
Please tell me the team that has a full team of these legit 11-12th graders that no 7th grader in the country can compete with, there are none . Yes there are teams and players that even the top 7 the graders would struggle against but so would just about every other high school player. Why do you think it's different than other sports especially considering it is a non contact sport by rule. In all individual sports in high school where opinion means nothing there are 7-8th graders that compete with the best of them , it's just in girls lacrosse you have parents such as yourself that are so blinded by jealousy they can't actually see the talent of other kids. What team does your daughter play on so I can laugh when some 7 the grader lights her up.
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Agree 100%. Upperclassman are that much bigger, what I call "womanized" than a 7th grader, no matter how tall she is. They are just physically dominant. And they're more experienced and confident. Any 7th grader who tries to dodge the net everytime she gets the ball because that's what works in club is going to have her [lacrosse] handed to her.
Lady Eagle, Lady bagle, Lady whatever. Your 7th grader is gonna get whipped against most 11-12th grade starting varsity players.. We know she is special but thats reality. Trying to compare girls lax with swimming, gymnastics, tennis is stupid.
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Again you make it way to easy to make you look like the dumb [lacrosse] you are. First I am not from Riverhead but it shows a lot about your character when you talk about looking forward to playing a team that is still new and non-competitive, lets just say again your kid is obviously not an elite player. Next you mention Farmingdale and Northport , ask their head coaches if they would bring up a 7th grader if they thought she deserved it, I know for a fact they would, can you say Courtney Fortunato. The other teams you talk about 99 percent of Long Island teams will not play. So transparent your kid is borderline varsity and you are worried about some 7th grader displacing her, tell her to work harder.
Your stupid!
Skill and agility supersedes Varsity size. Don't hate the Bald Eagle!
Lady Eagle, Lady bagle, Lady whatever. Your 7th grader is gonna get whipped against most 11-12th grade starting varsity players.. We know she is special but thats reality. Trying to compare girls lax with swimming, gymnastics, tennis is stupid.
Is there any reason why the 7th grader can't play JV in 7th and then either brought up to varsity during the season or play a full year of JV in 7th and then play varsity in 8th.
If you don't know already the success at one time in this program came from the current coaches brother JS who is now the SBU head coach , any player who actually made a name for themselves when this program was on top of their game under JS rule was due to the fact he developed them. when JS had left he also left behind many younger upcoming players who still had that proper way of playing the game imbedded in there heads by JS! , so hence a few years after he left the program it still survived. now that they have all gone off to college , there's nothing developed enough to compete under direction of the current coach because he failed to build the under classman , He now utilizes the youth players who have been religiously taught by an outstanding youth coach to keep his varsity program afloat , and as stated earlier with minimal effort of his own, He recently brought in this youth coach into school program to make it easier for the youth organization to support him .
Really?
You my dear follower are dilusional. Unfortunately the drop out rate of rp high school girls lax players due to the poorly ran high school program , leaves no choice but to fill the void . In this instance an organized youth program makes it easier for varsity coach run a team that runs itself with minumal effort
Unless your from Rocky Point and your daughter plays for the Lady Eagle which may I add is coached by a dedicated parent who should really be the Varsity HEAD coach , most would tell you everyone of those 7th / 8th graders are far more superior then any Varsity player from 10 - 12th grade in the district and are coached to play against any level of competition , which again was molded by the youth organization who does a phenomenal job with the program without any help from varsity coaches
There are NO 7th graders that can match up with a legit 11-12th grade varsity starter. They will never be able to run with the midfielders and they will be dominated by good defenders if they play attack.
Please tell me the team that has a full team of these legit 11-12th graders that no 7th grader in the country can compete with, there are none . Yes there are teams and players that even the top 7 the graders would struggle against but so would just about every other high school player. Why do you think it's different than other sports especially considering it is a non contact sport by rule. In all individual sports in high school where opinion means nothing there are 7-8th graders that compete with the best of them , it's just in girls lacrosse you have parents such as yourself that are so blinded by jealousy they can't actually see the talent of other kids. What team does your daughter play on so I can laugh when some 7 the grader lights her up.
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Agree 100%. Upperclassman are that much bigger, what I call "womanized" than a 7th grader, no matter how tall she is. They are just physically dominant. And they're more experienced and confident. Any 7th grader who tries to dodge the net everytime she gets the ball because that's what works in club is going to have her [lacrosse] handed to her.
who is going to be best team in Div 1 this year
Maybe this is a stupid question but what would the advantage be for a varsity coach to move a girl up unless they felt they would be at least somewhat successful? I can't imagine coaches would take any 7th/8th grader up unless they were truly a "special" player. Why would she/he waste their time?
Because she needs to feed the YJ machine.
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Again you make it way to easy to make you look like the dumb [lacrosse] you are. First I am not from Riverhead but it shows a lot about your character when you talk about looking forward to playing a team that is still new and non-competitive, lets just say again your kid is obviously not an elite player. Next you mention Farmingdale and Northport , ask their head coaches if they would bring up a 7th grader if they thought she deserved it, I know for a fact they would, can you say Courtney Fortunato. The other teams you talk about 99 percent of Long Island teams will not play. So transparent your kid is borderline varsity and you are worried about some 7th grader displacing her, tell her to work harder.
You must have gone to the Obama school of Spinning B.S. The whole conversation was revolving around Riverbed 7th graders being pulled up, and all of a sudden your not from Riverbed? OK my mistake. Yes I can say Courtney Fortunato, A very rare occurrence in N-Port that will probably not happen again for a long time because the program is strong and really does not need to pull 7th graders up all the time and defiantly not in mass. Can you name 1 from F-dale that has been pulled up? My kid is not a borderline player at all, Signed to a D1, what about yours, I sure she will be starting at Duke right. As far as your asinine statement about the teams from L.I. to refresh you obviously feeble mind, it was in answer to your question, And I quote "Please tell me the team that has a full team of these legit 11-12th graders that no 7th grader in the country can compete with, there are none ."
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Again you make it way to easy to make you look like the dumb [lacrosse] you are. First I am not from Riverhead but it shows a lot about your character when you talk about looking forward to playing a team that is still new and non-competitive, lets just say again your kid is obviously not an elite player. Next you mention Farmingdale and Northport , ask their head coaches if they would bring up a 7th grader if they thought she deserved it, I know for a fact they would, can you say Courtney Fortunato. The other teams you talk about 99 percent of Long Island teams will not play. So transparent your kid is borderline varsity and you are worried about some 7th grader displacing her, tell her to work harder.
You must have gone to the Obama school of Spinning B.S. The whole conversation was revolving around Riverbed 7th graders being pulled up, and all of a sudden your not from Riverbed? OK my mistake. Yes I can say Courtney Fortunato, A very rare occurrence in N-Port that will probably not happen again for a long time because the program is strong and really does not need to pull 7th graders up all the time and defiantly not in mass. Can you name 1 from F-dale that has been pulled up? My kid is not a borderline player at all, Signed to a D1, what about yours, I sure she will be starting at Duke right. As far as your asinine statement about the teams from L.I. to refresh you obviously feeble mind, it was in answer to your question, And I quote "Please tell me the team that has a full team of these legit 11-12th graders that no 7th grader in the country can compete with, there are none ."
Wow your kid is going to be on a D1 lax team, big deal, no one cares. By the way Northport is bringing a kid up from 7th grade this season. Stop be jealous of these 7th graders that have already surpassed your kids playing ability . Its just so idiotic that you are okay with 8th graders being brought up but not 7th graders as if something magical happens to all these athletes between those two grades.
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Again you make it way to easy to make you look like the dumb [lacrosse] you are. First I am not from Riverhead but it shows a lot about your character when you talk about looking forward to playing a team that is still new and non-competitive, lets just say again your kid is obviously not an elite player. Next you mention Farmingdale and Northport , ask their head coaches if they would bring up a 7th grader if they thought she deserved it, I know for a fact they would, can you say Courtney Fortunato. The other teams you talk about 99 percent of Long Island teams will not play. So transparent your kid is borderline varsity and you are worried about some 7th grader displacing her, tell her to work harder.
You must have gone to the Obama school of Spinning B.S. The whole conversation was revolving around Riverbed 7th graders being pulled up, and all of a sudden your not from Riverbed? OK my mistake. Yes I can say Courtney Fortunato, A very rare occurrence in N-Port that will probably not happen again for a long time because the program is strong and really does not need to pull 7th graders up all the time and defiantly not in mass. Can you name 1 from F-dale that has been pulled up? My kid is not a borderline player at all, Signed to a D1, what about yours, I sure she will be starting at Duke right. As far as your asinine statement about the teams from L.I. to refresh you obviously feeble mind, it was in answer to your question, And I quote "Please tell me the team that has a full team of these legit 11-12th graders that no 7th grader in the country can compete with, there are none ."
Wow your kid is going to be on a D1 lax team, big deal, no one cares. By the way Northport is bringing a kid up from 7th grade this season. Stop be jealous of these 7th graders that have already surpassed your kids playing ability . Its just so idiotic that you are okay with 8th graders being brought up but not 7th graders as if something magical happens to all these athletes between those two grades.
Something magical does happen. It's called growth. Both physical and emotional. Seventh graders do not belong on a varsity team.
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Again you make it way to easy to make you look like the dumb [lacrosse] you are. First I am not from Riverhead but it shows a lot about your character when you talk about looking forward to playing a team that is still new and non-competitive, lets just say again your kid is obviously not an elite player. Next you mention Farmingdale and Northport , ask their head coaches if they would bring up a 7th grader if they thought she deserved it, I know for a fact they would, can you say Courtney Fortunato. The other teams you talk about 99 percent of Long Island teams will not play. So transparent your kid is borderline varsity and you are worried about some 7th grader displacing her, tell her to work harder.
You must have gone to the Obama school of Spinning B.S. The whole conversation was revolving around Riverbed 7th graders being pulled up, and all of a sudden your not from Riverbed? OK my mistake. Yes I can say Courtney Fortunato, A very rare occurrence in N-Port that will probably not happen again for a long time because the program is strong and really does not need to pull 7th graders up all the time and defiantly not in mass. Can you name 1 from F-dale that has been pulled up? My kid is not a borderline player at all, Signed to a D1, what about yours, I sure she will be starting at Duke right. As far as your asinine statement about the teams from L.I. to refresh you obviously feeble mind, it was in answer to your question, And I quote "Please tell me the team that has a full team of these legit 11-12th graders that no 7th grader in the country can compete with, there are none ."
Wow your kid is going to be on a D1 lax team, big deal, no one cares. By the way Northport is bringing a kid up from 7th grade this season. Stop be jealous of these 7th graders that have already surpassed your kids playing ability . Its just so idiotic that you are okay with 8th graders being brought up but not 7th graders as if something magical happens to all these athletes between those two grades.
A 7th or 8th grade student should be a rare exception to any varsity team and even a JV team. It is so much more than the physical nature. It is also the social and academic nature.
I don't follow girls lacrosse as closely as I would like. But I do have to say LY I have seen a few girls that fit the bill of 7th graders ready to play JV and be pulled up for playoffs or the mid season.
There are a handful of these girls and some are thick and some are thin. Jut as Seniors have both thick and thin frames. Stop saying size. It is ability at the level and safety of the child.
I said it on the boys side and the same applies to the girls side. Having some of these girls play MS is against MS sports policy why or how because it gives that team an unfair advantage. MS is supposed to be a level field. MS is still developmental. If a child has the aptitude and skill that player belongs on the HS team. Not saying Varsity but JV and then maybe get pulled up. what is so wrong about that.
Pulling a 7th grader to JV is compared (not the same compared) to pulling a sophomore to Varsity.
Question: Which Daddy-coach is worse - in a travel club or high school JV in his own town?
I don't follow girls lacrosse as closely as I would like. But I do have to say LY I have seen a few girls that fit the bill of 7th graders ready to play JV and be pulled up for playoffs or the mid season.
There are a handful of these girls and some are thick and some are thin. Jut as Seniors have both thick and thin frames. Stop saying size. It is ability at the level and safety of the child.
I said it on the boys side and the same applies to the girls side. Having some of these girls play MS is against MS sports policy why or how because it gives that team an unfair advantage. MS is supposed to be a level field. MS is still developmental. If a child has the aptitude and skill that player belongs on the HS team. Not saying Varsity but JV and then maybe get pulled up. what is so wrong about that.
Pulling a 7th grader to JV is compared (not the same compared) to pulling a sophomore to Varsity.
"Having some of these girls play MS is against MS sports policy why or how because it gives that team an unfair advantage."
Huh? MS sports are for seventh and eighth graders. Are you saying they shouldn't be able to play at their age level and with their friends because they're too good? Now I've heard everything.
Everyone knows the 7th graders playing good lacrosse on Long Island. A few of them can probably contribute to a playoff caliber varsity team and if that is the case great - but not many can. None will excel.
I don't follow girls lacrosse as closely as I would like. But I do have to say LY I have seen a few girls that fit the bill of 7th graders ready to play JV and be pulled up for playoffs or the mid season.
There are a handful of these girls and some are thick and some are thin. Jut as Seniors have both thick and thin frames. Stop saying size. It is ability at the level and safety of the child.
I said it on the boys side and the same applies to the girls side. Having some of these girls play MS is against MS sports policy why or how because it gives that team an unfair advantage. MS is supposed to be a level field. MS is still developmental. If a child has the aptitude and skill that player belongs on the HS team. Not saying Varsity but JV and then maybe get pulled up. what is so wrong about that.
Pulling a 7th grader to JV is compared (not the same compared) to pulling a sophomore to Varsity.
"Having some of these girls play MS is against MS sports policy why or how because it gives that team an unfair advantage."
Huh? MS sports are for seventh and eighth graders. Are you saying they shouldn't be able to play at their age level and with their friends because they're too good? Now I've heard everything.
Yes THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING!!!
No player should dominate a field/court in any MS sport. Those players are the players that should be moved up. Test or not. Keeping some of these type of players in the MS ranks is dangerous in itself.
There is a 7th grade boy that if his HS doesn't move him up can seriously hurt a goalie with his shot. His school district would be irresponsible, libel even, if they decided to not push him up. But in the boys game you can hit the goalie without penalty - girls is different you cant hit the goalie (or not supposed to) but there are those few (and that is what we are argueeing over) not the norm that should be moved up
The selection classification notes this!
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Again you make it way to easy to make you look like the dumb [lacrosse] you are. First I am not from Riverhead but it shows a lot about your character when you talk about looking forward to playing a team that is still new and non-competitive, lets just say again your kid is obviously not an elite player. Next you mention Farmingdale and Northport , ask their head coaches if they would bring up a 7th grader if they thought she deserved it, I know for a fact they would, can you say Courtney Fortunato. The other teams you talk about 99 percent of Long Island teams will not play. So transparent your kid is borderline varsity and you are worried about some 7th grader displacing her, tell her to work harder.
Courtney Fortunato was not on varsity as a 7th grader, Dene (Hopkins) also played middle school lacrosse in 7th grade.
I don't follow girls lacrosse as closely as I would like. But I do have to say LY I have seen a few girls that fit the bill of 7th graders ready to play JV and be pulled up for playoffs or the mid season.
There are a handful of these girls and some are thick and some are thin. Jut as Seniors have both thick and thin frames. Stop saying size. It is ability at the level and safety of the child.
I said it on the boys side and the same applies to the girls side. Having some of these girls play MS is against MS sports policy why or how because it gives that team an unfair advantage. MS is supposed to be a level field. MS is still developmental. If a child has the aptitude and skill that player belongs on the HS team. Not saying Varsity but JV and then maybe get pulled up. what is so wrong about that.
Pulling a 7th grader to JV is compared (not the same compared) to pulling a sophomore to Varsity.
"Having some of these girls play MS is against MS sports policy why or how because it gives that team an unfair advantage."
Huh? MS sports are for seventh and eighth graders. Are you saying they shouldn't be able to play at their age level and with their friends because they're too good? Now I've heard everything.
Yes THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING!!!
No player should dominate a field/court in any MS sport. Those players are the players that should be moved up. Test or not. Keeping some of these type of players in the MS ranks is dangerous in itself.
There is a 7th grade boy that if his HS doesn't move him up can seriously hurt a goalie with his shot. His school district would be irresponsible, libel even, if they decided to not push him up. But in the boys game you can hit the goalie without penalty - girls is different you cant hit the goalie (or not supposed to) but there are those few (and that is what we are argueeing over) not the norm that should be moved up
The selection classification notes this!
Are you still going to yell across the field at your HS coach to sub when your daughter is not in the game?
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Again you make it way to easy to make you look like the dumb [lacrosse] you are. First I am not from Riverhead but it shows a lot about your character when you talk about looking forward to playing a team that is still new and non-competitive, lets just say again your kid is obviously not an elite player. Next you mention Farmingdale and Northport , ask their head coaches if they would bring up a 7th grader if they thought she deserved it, I know for a fact they would, can you say Courtney Fortunato. The other teams you talk about 99 percent of Long Island teams will not play. So transparent your kid is borderline varsity and you are worried about some 7th grader displacing her, tell her to work harder.
You must have gone to the Obama school of Spinning B.S. The whole conversation was revolving around Riverbed 7th graders being pulled up, and all of a sudden your not from Riverbed? OK my mistake. Yes I can say Courtney Fortunato, A very rare occurrence in N-Port that will probably not happen again for a long time because the program is strong and really does not need to pull 7th graders up all the time and defiantly not in mass. Can you name 1 from F-dale that has been pulled up? My kid is not a borderline player at all, Signed to a D1, what about yours, I sure she will be starting at Duke right. As far as your asinine statement about the teams from L.I. to refresh you obviously feeble mind, it was in answer to your question, And I quote "Please tell me the team that has a full team of these legit 11-12th graders that no 7th grader in the country can compete with, there are none ."
Wow your kid is going to be on a D1 lax team, big deal, no one cares. By the way Northport is bringing a kid up from 7th grade this season. Stop be jealous of these 7th graders that have already surpassed your kids playing ability . Its just so idiotic that you are okay with 8th graders being brought up but not 7th graders as if something magical happens to all these athletes between those two grades.
The little legacy from northport is on the ground crying at least once a game against kids her own age, I can only imagine how that will translate to HS sports
Who cares my kid will play D1 lax? no one but me and her, and thats fine with us. What I am saying, and what her playing D1 lax ,means is that she put her time in and is top quality player, yours not so much. what your saying is that everyone should step aside because YOU say your daughter is better, we say prove it. Not on a a PA.L. field, or against other 12 year olds like in club, but at least 1 year in M.S. and if she is that good then yes pull her up. Enough people have proven you wrong No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. C.R. is big on legacy players so no surprise there.
You are a dangerously stupid parent! By rule Girls lax is non contact, but it is very physical, and contact happens all the time. I have seen girls break legs, hands from checks, get cross checked to the throat, get laid out on the crease etc..As far as teams you little 7th grader couldn't play against Mc Donough, G.C., Manhasset, Northport, F-Dale, Sayville, St anthony's, Vero Beach, Amongst others would physically maul your kid. As far as laughing at me , I told you our kids will play this year, I'll let you know when it's done. I truly hope you don't think A few 7th graders are going to make RIVERHEAD a competitive team all of a sudden? Take some advice, shut your mouth now before you look even more foolish. This board has a long memory and your too new and stupid to this game to be shooting your mouth off. Their are lots of girls on lots of teams that have put in twice as many years playing this game than your kid, your little girl is not unique to lacrosse.
Again you make it way to easy to make you look like the dumb [lacrosse] you are. First I am not from Riverhead but it shows a lot about your character when you talk about looking forward to playing a team that is still new and non-competitive, lets just say again your kid is obviously not an elite player. Next you mention Farmingdale and Northport , ask their head coaches if they would bring up a 7th grader if they thought she deserved it, I know for a fact they would, can you say Courtney Fortunato. The other teams you talk about 99 percent of Long Island teams will not play. So transparent your kid is borderline varsity and you are worried about some 7th grader displacing her, tell her to work harder.
Courtney Fortunato was not on varsity as a 7th grader, Dene (Hopkins) also played middle school lacrosse in 7th grade.
Fyi- CF did in fact play varsity in 7th grade
Who cares my kid will play D1 lax? no one but me and her, and thats fine with us. What I am saying, and what her playing D1 lax ,means is that she put her time in and is top quality player, yours not so much. what your saying is that everyone should step aside because YOU say your daughter is better, we say prove it. Not on a a PA.L. field, or against other 12 year olds like in club, but at least 1 year in M.S. and if she is that good then yes pull her up. Enough people have proven you wrong No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. C.R. is big on legacy players so no surprise there.
PREP AND PERSONAL: Graduated from Northport High School in the spring of 2013 ... earned six letters in lacrosse and five in soccer ..
The above is from her Notre Dame website so are you saying they are making false claims or that you are an ignorant [lacrosse]. Again you make it so easy to make you look like the uneducated moron you are. This time there is no debate you got caught being a completely ignorant fool stating lies to try and back up your argument.By the way your daughter is not playing D1 lacrosse ,she is committed to go to a school that has D1 lacrosse , does not by a long shot make her a top quality player as you state but the fact you use that as your argument shows me your kid is most likely below average.
"Something magical does happen. It's called growth. Both physical and emotional. Seventh graders do not belong on a varsity team."
And another idiotic statement from Powder. Where did you get your medical degree, yes kids grow from 7-8, 8-9,9-10 and so on thats the point ,kids mature and grow at different rates and ages and some kids mature earlier that others both physically and mentally . Why do you think you have a better grasp on what age some kids will have the maturity and skill level to participate in high school sports more so than the pediatric medical doctors, athletic directors, educators etc that were involved with writing the selection classification guidelines.Amazing that you know whats best for every seventh grader in NY and that in your simpleton mind there is some magical line drawn in development between seventh and eighth grade.
There are RULES through New [lacrosse] State Education that each middle school player has to pass in order to play High School sports!
NOW .... do we think that there may be so fibbing going on as far as honesty goes with answering the questions?????? (Mom , DAD with a Little coaching)
7th grade is really pushing it , maybe 8th grade you can get away with it. Smaller schools stand a better chance to need younger players due to numbers. At least in 8th grade the school coaches , AD's can say the had a chance to watch her pay with the school in 7th grade for the school team not the PAL team.
This is a school issue so don't for get there are rules that the school has to follow thru New [lacrosse] State as far as Maturity!
Here is the reality....If your 7th grader is brought up to Varsity it means the following
1- She is an All American in the making and will start and be one of the studs on Varsity.
2- She will be a practice body and is just filling a bench spot.
3- Your district's Varsity team is weak and she will get playing time and be a non factor.
Who cares my kid will play D1 lax? no one but me and her, and thats fine with us. What I am saying, and what her playing D1 lax ,means is that she put her time in and is top quality player, yours not so much. what your saying is that everyone should step aside because YOU say your daughter is better, we say prove it. Not on a a PA.L. field, or against other 12 year olds like in club, but at least 1 year in M.S. and if she is that good then yes pull her up. Enough people have proven you wrong No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. C.R. is big on legacy players so no surprise there.
PREP AND PERSONAL: Graduated from Northport High School in the spring of 2013 ... earned six letters in lacrosse and five in soccer ..
The above is from her Notre Dame website so are you saying they are making false claims or that you are an ignorant [lacrosse]. Again you make it so easy to make you look like the uneducated moron you are. This time there is no debate you got caught being a completely ignorant fool stating lies to try and back up your argument.By the way your daughter is not playing D1 lacrosse ,she is committed to go to a school that has D1 lacrosse , does not by a long shot make her a top quality player as you state but the fact you use that as your argument shows me your kid is most likely below average.
You are a very angry little person. You have no Idea who my daughter is, or how she plays. what is known is your relatively new to any of this, and not very knowledgeable. I think most people would agree that your 7th grade daughter has not proven herself to be a known quality to anybody outside of your little town. Personally I don't know C.F. and don't really know when she started playing varsity. It's not me stating she didn't. I know this for sure, for her position, a former top player and coach from the same position, recruited her to play after seeing her in camp for 2 days, and has secured her a significant scholarship. What has your kid done? I am sure she is a very accomplished player for her age, but I am also sure that she will be passed by because of her parents by many college coaches. Hopefully the apple falls very far from the tree for her sake. Thank you for diminishing my daughters accomplishments and putting me in my place. Hopefully I can be as smart as you one day, and know everything about everyone just like you. Can you please save me the anticipation and tell me how badly my daughter will do on the field in college so I don't waste too much time and money? Thank you in advance
Who cares my kid will play D1 lax? no one but me and her, and thats fine with us. What I am saying, and what her playing D1 lax ,means is that she put her time in and is top quality player, yours not so much. what your saying is that everyone should step aside because YOU say your daughter is better, we say prove it. Not on a a PA.L. field, or against other 12 year olds like in club, but at least 1 year in M.S. and if she is that good then yes pull her up. Enough people have proven you wrong No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. C.R. is big on legacy players so no surprise there.
PREP AND PERSONAL: Graduated from Northport High School in the spring of 2013 ... earned six letters in lacrosse and five in soccer ..
The above is from her Notre Dame website so are you saying they are making false claims or that you are an ignorant [lacrosse]. Again you make it so easy to make you look like the uneducated moron you are. This time there is no debate you got caught being a completely ignorant fool stating lies to try and back up your argument.By the way your daughter is not playing D1 lacrosse ,she is committed to go to a school that has D1 lacrosse , does not by a long shot make her a top quality player as you state but the fact you use that as your argument shows me your kid is most likely below average.
I think that what's even more impressive is the two lax for the cure championships and her yj careeer - who wrote that dribble, CR?
Here is the reality....If your 7th grader is brought up to Varsity it means the following
1- She is an All American in the making and will start and be one of the studs on Varsity.
2- She will be a practice body and is just filling a bench spot.
3- Your district's Varsity team is weak and she will get playing time and be a non factor.
I'm voting #3
My daughter falls into #1
Who cares my kid will play D1 lax? no one but me and her, and thats fine with us. What I am saying, and what her playing D1 lax ,means is that she put her time in and is top quality player, yours not so much. what your saying is that everyone should step aside because YOU say your daughter is better, we say prove it. Not on a a PA.L. field, or against other 12 year olds like in club, but at least 1 year in M.S. and if she is that good then yes pull her up. Enough people have proven you wrong No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. C.R. is big on legacy players so no surprise there.
PREP AND PERSONAL: Graduated from Northport High School in the spring of 2013 ... earned six letters in lacrosse and five in soccer ..
The above is from her Notre Dame website so are you saying they are making false claims or that you are an ignorant [lacrosse]. Again you make it so easy to make you look like the uneducated moron you are. This time there is no debate you got caught being a completely ignorant fool stating lies to try and back up your argument.By the way your daughter is not playing D1 lacrosse ,she is committed to go to a school that has D1 lacrosse , does not by a long shot make her a top quality player as you state but the fact you use that as your argument shows me your kid is most likely below average.
You are a very angry little person. You have no Idea who my daughter is, or how she plays. what is known is your relatively new to any of this, and not very knowledgeable. I think most people would agree that your 7th grade daughter has not proven herself to be a known quality to anybody outside of your little town. Personally I don't know C.F. and don't really know when she started playing varsity. It's not me stating she didn't. I know this for sure, for her position, a former top player and coach from the same position, recruited her to play after seeing her in camp for 2 days, and has secured her a significant scholarship. What has your kid done? I am sure she is a very accomplished player for her age, but I am also sure that she will be passed by because of her parents by many college coaches. Hopefully the apple falls very far from the tree for her sake. Thank you for diminishing my daughters accomplishments and putting me in my place. Hopefully I can be as smart as you one day, and know everything about everyone just like you. Can you please save me the anticipation and tell me how badly my daughter will do on the field in college so I don't waste too much time and money? Thank you in advance
" No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. "
A quote from your earlier post but now you say you did not say it, there must be something wrong with you . As far as knowing everything about everyone , its not me pretending to know what is best for every 7th grade girl who excels in lacrosse, why don't you leave that to the people who do know these kids the best.
It has taken me longer than it should have but after reading your last post its obvious you have some form of learning disability or are just delusional. Best of luck to your daughter at college I hope they give her a chance at playing time her freshman year even if she has not yet proven herself to them with that great tradition of "wait your turn".
Here is the reality....If your 7th grader is brought up to Varsity it means the following
1- She is an All American in the making and will start and be one of the studs on Varsity.
2- She will be a practice body and is just filling a bench spot.
3- Your district's Varsity team is weak and she will get playing time and be a non factor.
I think the decision to pull up a player also greatly depends on the type of player the girl is. Two basic types, one plays a very physical, go to goal, run over a couple defenders, head down to get a shot off. This type of player best have hit their growth spurt if they are going to try to get it done at the varsity level. The other type will beat you with speed and agility, head on a swivel game smarts and relentless hustle, this style does not require the girl to go toe to toe with the older more physically developed player.
Who cares my kid will play D1 lax? no one but me and her, and thats fine with us. What I am saying, and what her playing D1 lax ,means is that she put her time in and is top quality player, yours not so much. what your saying is that everyone should step aside because YOU say your daughter is better, we say prove it. Not on a a PA.L. field, or against other 12 year olds like in club, but at least 1 year in M.S. and if she is that good then yes pull her up. Enough people have proven you wrong No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. C.R. is big on legacy players so no surprise there.
PREP AND PERSONAL: Graduated from Northport High School in the spring of 2013 ... earned six letters in lacrosse and five in soccer ..
The above is from her Notre Dame website so are you saying they are making false claims or that you are an ignorant [lacrosse]. Again you make it so easy to make you look like the uneducated moron you are. This time there is no debate you got caught being a completely ignorant fool stating lies to try and back up your argument.By the way your daughter is not playing D1 lacrosse ,she is committed to go to a school that has D1 lacrosse , does not by a long shot make her a top quality player as you state but the fact you use that as your argument shows me your kid is most likely below average.
You are a very angry little person. You have no Idea who my daughter is, or how she plays. what is known is your relatively new to any of this, and not very knowledgeable. I think most people would agree that your 7th grade daughter has not proven herself to be a known quality to anybody outside of your little town. Personally I don't know C.F. and don't really know when she started playing varsity. It's not me stating she didn't. I know this for sure, for her position, a former top player and coach from the same position, recruited her to play after seeing her in camp for 2 days, and has secured her a significant scholarship. What has your kid done? I am sure she is a very accomplished player for her age, but I am also sure that she will be passed by because of her parents by many college coaches. Hopefully the apple falls very far from the tree for her sake. Thank you for diminishing my daughters accomplishments and putting me in my place. Hopefully I can be as smart as you one day, and know everything about everyone just like you. Can you please save me the anticipation and tell me how badly my daughter will do on the field in college so I don't waste too much time and money? Thank you in advance
" No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. "
A quote from your earlier post but now you say you did not say it, there must be something wrong with you . As far as knowing everything about everyone , its not me pretending to know what is best for every 7th grade girl who excels in lacrosse, why don't you leave that to the people who do know these kids the best.
It has taken me longer than it should have but after reading your last post its obvious you have some form of learning disability or are just delusional. Best of luck to your daughter at college I hope they give her a chance at playing time her freshman year even if she has not yet proven herself to them with that great tradition of "wait your turn".
"Anonymous" is not one person. Any number of people can and are posting anonymously. You all should get register and make the threads easier to follow and attribute.
Who cares my kid will play D1 lax? no one but me and her, and thats fine with us. What I am saying, and what her playing D1 lax ,means is that she put her time in and is top quality player, yours not so much. what your saying is that everyone should step aside because YOU say your daughter is better, we say prove it. Not on a a PA.L. field, or against other 12 year olds like in club, but at least 1 year in M.S. and if she is that good then yes pull her up. Enough people have proven you wrong No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. C.R. is big on legacy players so no surprise there.
PREP AND PERSONAL: Graduated from Northport High School in the spring of 2013 ... earned six letters in lacrosse and five in soccer ..
The above is from her Notre Dame website so are you saying they are making false claims or that you are an ignorant [lacrosse]. Again you make it so easy to make you look like the uneducated moron you are. This time there is no debate you got caught being a completely ignorant fool stating lies to try and back up your argument.By the way your daughter is not playing D1 lacrosse ,she is committed to go to a school that has D1 lacrosse , does not by a long shot make her a top quality player as you state but the fact you use that as your argument shows me your kid is most likely below average.
You are a very angry little person. You have no Idea who my daughter is, or how she plays. what is known is your relatively new to any of this, and not very knowledgeable. I think most people would agree that your 7th grade daughter has not proven herself to be a known quality to anybody outside of your little town. Personally I don't know C.F. and don't really know when she started playing varsity. It's not me stating she didn't. I know this for sure, for her position, a former top player and coach from the same position, recruited her to play after seeing her in camp for 2 days, and has secured her a significant scholarship. What has your kid done? I am sure she is a very accomplished player for her age, but I am also sure that she will be passed by because of her parents by many college coaches. Hopefully the apple falls very far from the tree for her sake. Thank you for diminishing my daughters accomplishments and putting me in my place. Hopefully I can be as smart as you one day, and know everything about everyone just like you. Can you please save me the anticipation and tell me how badly my daughter will do on the field in college so I don't waste too much time and money? Thank you in advance
" No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. "
A quote from your earlier post but now you say you did not say it, there must be something wrong with you . As far as knowing everything about everyone , its not me pretending to know what is best for every 7th grade girl who excels in lacrosse, why don't you leave that to the people who do know these kids the best.
It has taken me longer than it should have but after reading your last post its obvious you have some form of learning disability or are just delusional. Best of luck to your daughter at college I hope they give her a chance at playing time her freshman year even if she has not yet proven herself to them with that great tradition of "wait your turn".
There is one major flaw in your completely irrational logic, I didn't write that! You don't really think I'm the only one that thinks you live in a complete fantasy land. I'll say it again because your obviously very dim witted, I DO NOT KNOW C.F. , AND DO NOT KNOW AT WHAT YEEAR SHE WAS PULLED UP TO VARSITY. I can not dumb it down for you any more than that. please get a 3 year old to explain it to you.
Who cares my kid will play D1 lax? no one but me and her, and thats fine with us. What I am saying, and what her playing D1 lax ,means is that she put her time in and is top quality player, yours not so much. what your saying is that everyone should step aside because YOU say your daughter is better, we say prove it. Not on a a PA.L. field, or against other 12 year olds like in club, but at least 1 year in M.S. and if she is that good then yes pull her up. Enough people have proven you wrong No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. C.R. is big on legacy players so no surprise there.
PREP AND PERSONAL: Graduated from Northport High School in the spring of 2013 ... earned six letters in lacrosse and five in soccer ..
The above is from her Notre Dame website so are you saying they are making false claims or that you are an ignorant [lacrosse]. Again you make it so easy to make you look like the uneducated moron you are. This time there is no debate you got caught being a completely ignorant fool stating lies to try and back up your argument.By the way your daughter is not playing D1 lacrosse ,she is committed to go to a school that has D1 lacrosse , does not by a long shot make her a top quality player as you state but the fact you use that as your argument shows me your kid is most likely below average.
You are a very angry little person. You have no Idea who my daughter is, or how she plays. what is known is your relatively new to any of this, and not very knowledgeable. I think most people would agree that your 7th grade daughter has not proven herself to be a known quality to anybody outside of your little town. Personally I don't know C.F. and don't really know when she started playing varsity. It's not me stating she didn't. I know this for sure, for her position, a former top player and coach from the same position, recruited her to play after seeing her in camp for 2 days, and has secured her a significant scholarship. What has your kid done? I am sure she is a very accomplished player for her age, but I am also sure that she will be passed by because of her parents by many college coaches. Hopefully the apple falls very far from the tree for her sake. Thank you for diminishing my daughters accomplishments and putting me in my place. Hopefully I can be as smart as you one day, and know everything about everyone just like you. Can you please save me the anticipation and tell me how badly my daughter will do on the field in college so I don't waste too much time and money? Thank you in advance
" No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. "
A quote from your earlier post but now you say you did not say it, there must be something wrong with you . As far as knowing everything about everyone , its not me pretending to know what is best for every 7th grade girl who excels in lacrosse, why don't you leave that to the people who do know these kids the best.
It has taken me longer than it should have but after reading your last post its obvious you have some form of learning disability or are just delusional. Best of luck to your daughter at college I hope they give her a chance at playing time her freshman year even if she has not yet proven herself to them with that great tradition of "wait your turn".
There is one major flaw in your completely irrational logic, I didn't write that! You don't really think I'm the only one that thinks you live in a complete fantasy land. I'll say it again because your obviously very dim witted, I DO NOT KNOW C.F. , AND DO NOT KNOW AT WHAT YEEAR SHE WAS PULLED UP TO VARSITY. I can not dumb it down for you any more than that. please get a 3 year old to explain it to you.
"Who cares my kid will play D1 lax? no one but me and her, and thats fine with us. What I am saying, and what her playing D1 lax ,means is that she put her time in and is top quality player, yours not so much. what your saying is that everyone should step aside because YOU say your daughter is better, we say prove it. Not on a a PA.L. field, or against other 12 year olds like in club, but at least 1 year in M.S. and if she is that good then yes pull her up. Enough people have proven you wrong
No Courtney didn't play in 7th grade. C.R. is big on legacy players so no surprise there."
Actually you did say Courrney did not play varsity in 7th grade , just look above. You really are either a moron who doesn't remember what they posted or a liar .Stop worrying about other peoples kids and worry about your own future D1 superstar , let me guess going to some new D1 program desperate for kids who can catch and throw somewhere in Virginia.
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Mt.Sinia Mustangs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT TEAMS ARE GONNA COMPETE IN DIV 1
WHO WILL BE COUNTY CHAMPS !!!
Riverhead
Riverhead.......where is that.....do they even have a team
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Riverhead
Now that's funny!
Mt.Sinia Mustangs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta get past Bayport first.
Mt.Sinia Mustangs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta get past Bayport first.
Please , Bayport got there 1 in a million game last year not going to happen this year. Lets just say our team looks forward to playing Bayport every year, they dread playing MS.
Mt.Sinia Mustangs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta get past Bayport first.
Please , Bayport got there 1 in a million game last year not going to happen this year. Lets just say our team looks forward to playing Bayport every year, they dread playing MS.
You Mount Sinai people are some of the worst parents ever. You have zero class and it shows in your kids and your behavior in the stands and on the field.
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connetquot
Mt.Sinia Mustangs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta get past Bayport first.
Please , Bayport got there 1 in a million game last year not going to happen this year. Lets just say our team looks forward to playing Bayport every year, they dread playing MS.
Not from either district, but I did attend that game last year. Again not sure what either team looked like going into that game but Bayport soundly beat them on many levels. Definitely was not a game of bad breaks, bad calls, unlucky bounces or shots. Bayport look every bit as good and obviously better than Mt. Sinai that day. Moving to this year, any major changes to either team? (impact players graduate?). Don't think I ready to buy into your luck theory and give the crown to Mt Sinai.
Cold Spring harbor !!
Had their chance last year , Oh Well
No North Shore and No Mt S Last year this is a new year back to normal and North Shore will be back in 3 years when their numbers drop back to normal. I asked and they said their 2017 class is really BIG.
The riverhead 7th grade team will run away with the championship
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Riverhead
Now that's funny!
No joke, best 2021 class in the state! chock full of studs. look out McDonoug these girls can beat anyone
Lady Eagles Rocky point!
This year the whole team is being brought up to varsity , they will get their State Championship soon enough due to coach Sanchez ! And mind that DS had nothing to do with it .
Mt.Sinia Mustangs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta get past Bayport first.
Please , Bayport got there 1 in a million game last year not going to happen this year. Lets just say our team looks forward to playing Bayport every year, they dread playing MS.
Not from either district, but I did attend that game last year. Again not sure what either team looked like going into that game but Bayport soundly beat them on many levels. Definitely was not a game of bad breaks, bad calls, unlucky bounces or shots. Bayport look every bit as good and obviously better than Mt. Sinai that day. Moving to this year, any major changes to either team? (impact players graduate?). Don't think I ready to buy into your luck theory and give the crown to Mt Sinai.
Then you don't know the players on both teams , ask any of the top players on BBP if they felt lucky to win that game .That being said Mount Sinai lost more impact players from last years team than Bayport and will still be favored to win , not like Bayport was asking to be seeded higher so even their coaches realize winning again is a stretch.
Lady Eagles Rocky point!
This year the whole team is being brought up to varsity , they will get their State Championship soon enough due to coach Sanchez ! And mind that DS had nothing to do with it .
rocky point will lose to
Happauge
BBP
ESM
Comsw
Sayville
Hunt
Very badly, weak team with or without DS.
Lady Eagles Rocky point!
This year the whole team is being brought up to varsity , they will get their State Championship soon enough due to coach Sanchez ! And mind that DS had nothing to do with it .
rocky point will lose to
Happauge
BBP
ESM
Comsw
Sayville
Hunt
Very badly, weak team with or without DS.
DS is the varsity coach.
Mt.Sinia Mustangs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta get past Bayport first.
Please , Bayport got there 1 in a million game last year not going to happen this year. Lets just say our team looks forward to playing Bayport every year, they dread playing MS.
Not from either district, but I did attend that game last year. Again not sure what either team looked like going into that game but Bayport soundly beat them on many levels. Definitely was not a game of bad breaks, bad calls, unlucky bounces or shots. Bayport look every bit as good and obviously better than Mt. Sinai that day. Moving to this year, any major changes to either team? (impact players graduate?). Don't think I ready to buy into your luck theory and give the crown to Mt Sinai.
Then you don't know the players on both teams , ask any of the top players on BBP if they felt lucky to win that game .That being said Mount Sinai lost more impact players from last years team than Bayport and will still be favored to win , not like Bayport was asking to be seeded higher so even their coaches realize winning again is a stretch.
I know most all the impact players from both team from club ball. Mt Sinai held an advantage over most schools for several years as their teams were comprised with high numbers of travel girls, they still have that investment but other districts are also seeing pockets of upper travel team girls hit the scene. I'm not saying Mt. Sinai is getting weaker, I'm saying the other districts are getting stronger.
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connetquot
That's almost as funny as the Riverhead post!
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connetquot
What makes you think Connetquot will even make the playoffs this year?
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Ward Melville
Do people think the Division II rankings (top teams), will change much after this year.
If you even consider him a coach at all !
quote=Anonymous]
Lady Eagles Rocky point!
This year the whole team is being brought up to varsity , they will get their State Championship soon enough due to coach Sanchez ! And mind that DS had nothing to do with it .
rocky point will lose to
Happauge
BBP
ESM
Comsw
Sayville
Hunt
Very badly, weak team with or without DS.
DS is the varsity coach.
[/quote]
If you even consider him a coach at all !
quote=Anonymous]
Lady Eagles Rocky point!
This year the whole team is being brought up to varsity , they will get their State Championship soon enough due to coach Sanchez ! And mind that DS had nothing to do with it .
rocky point will lose to
Happauge
BBP
ESM
Comsw
Sayville
Hunt
Very badly, weak team with or without DS.
DS is the varsity coach.
[/quote]If Rocky point is counting on 7th graders they will not do well, no matter how good the parents think they are. It took the Ortega sisters 5 years to make a difference at middle country and they are 2 of the best, so the R.P. and Riverbed girls don't stand a chance
If you even consider him a coach at all !
quote=Anonymous]
Lady Eagles Rocky point!
This year the whole team is being brought up to varsity , they will get their State Championship soon enough due to coach Sanchez ! And mind that DS had nothing to do with it .
rocky point will lose to
Happauge
BBP
ESM
Comsw
Sayville
Hunt
Very badly, weak team with or without DS.
DS is the varsity coach.
If Rocky point is counting on 7th graders they will not do well, no matter how good the parents think they are. It took the Ortega sisters 5 years to make a difference at middle country and they are 2 of the best, so the R.P. and Riverbed girls don't stand a chance[/quote]
I agree, even the highly skilled and fastest 7th graders can't make a big impact at the varsity level, but the coaches insist on bringing them up.
Mt.Sinia Mustangs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gotta get past Bayport first.
Please , Bayport got there 1 in a million game last year not going to happen this year. Lets just say our team looks forward to playing Bayport every year, they dread playing MS.
Not from either district, but I did attend that game last year. Again not sure what either team looked like going into that game but Bayport soundly beat them on many levels. Definitely was not a game of bad breaks, bad calls, unlucky bounces or shots. Bayport look every bit as good and obviously better than Mt. Sinai that day. Moving to this year, any major changes to either team? (impact players graduate?). Don't think I ready to buy into your luck theory and give the crown to Mt Sinai.
Then you don't know the players on both teams , ask any of the top players on BBP if they felt lucky to win that game .That being said Mount Sinai lost more impact players from last years team than Bayport and will still be favored to win , not like Bayport was asking to be seeded higher so even their coaches realize winning again is a stretch.
To the last quote, you sound like an idiot. Your team got soundly beaten by a better team last year. To your own admission, Mt Sinai lost more impact players than did Bayport, and you think they feel they were just lucky to get by. And next year, I'm sure the coach and team will feel equally lucky just to get a rematch in the playoffs against the great Mt. Sinai?
I have no horses in the race, but you need a reality check.
Rocky Point varsity needs size not 75lb little middle school girls who scammed their way through the maturity test. They will get steam rolled like they did last season against a good town program who legitimately has varsity players who are just that Varsity! , not middle school! Don't believe it look at their record from last season, they may have won the easy draws but when it was time to see how talent stacked up they weren't even near the ballpark , Facts are Facts stats are stats! Bad decision making eventually catches up when it's to late !
If you even consider him a coach at all !
quote=Anonymous]
Lady Eagles Rocky point!
This year the whole team is being brought up to varsity , they will get their State Championship soon enough due to coach Sanchez ! And mind that DS had nothing to do with it .
rocky point will lose to
Happauge
BBP
ESM
Comsw
Sayville
Hunt
Very badly, weak team with or without DS.
DS is the varsity coach.
If Rocky point is counting on 7th graders they will not do well, no matter how good the parents think they are. It took the Ortega sisters 5 years to make a difference at middle country and they are 2 of the best, so the R.P. and Riverbed girls don't stand a chance
I agree, even the highly skilled and fastest 7th graders can't make a big impact at the varsity level, but the coaches insist on bringing them up. [/quote]
Sounds like alot of young teams this year.
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Ward Melville
Stop... D1 (A Schools) will be Middle Country over WI. There won't be another team even close to those two.
"To the last quote, you sound like an idiot. Your team got soundly beaten by a better team last year. To your own admission, Mt Sinai lost more impact players than did Bayport, and you think they feel they were just lucky to get by. And next year, I'm sure the coach and team will feel equally lucky just to get a rematch in the playoffs against the great Mt. Sinai?
I have no horses in the race, but you need a reality check."
I have no horse in this race either but if you think every team that played both teams last year did not consider the championship game a bit of an aberration than it is you who needs a reality check. By the way yes Mt. Sinai did lose more impact players yet the Bayport coach requested being seeded below Mount Sinai for the upcoming season, what does that tell you . You really are clueless.
Do people think the Division II rankings (top teams), will change much after this year.
D2 (B Schools and C Schools) is wide open this year.
B: Sayville, ESM, Huntington, WBab, Hauppauge
C: BBP, Mt. Sinai and SWR should be competitive.
There should be a changing of the guards after 2015 girls graduate. Lots of impact HS players from above teams are leaving in 2015..
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For Suffolk, go online and look at the YJ and TG rosters for 2015-18, figure out which district has the most first and second team travel players (weight the first teamers more), throw in some extra points for first team blue chippers, and you will have your answer. Some of the best players are in districts with very little support from teammates, they will not compete. Simply the district with the most amount of higher end travel players will compete.
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WHO WILL BE COUNTY CHAMPS !!!
connetquot
What makes you think Connetquot will even make the playoffs this year?
it was a joke. of course they won't. need a coach
WHAT TEAMS ARE GONNA COMPETE IN DIV 1
WHO WILL BE COUNTY CHAMPS !!!
For Suffolk, go online and look at the YJ and TG rosters for 2015-18, figure out which district has the most first and second team travel players (weight the first teamers more), throw in some extra points for first team blue chippers, and you will have your answer. Some of the best players are in districts with very little support from teammates, they will not compete. Simply the district with the most amount of higher end travel players will compete.
If this is true, how come Northport doesn't win every year since Northport girls are 100% YJ's?
WHAT TEAMS ARE GONNA COMPETE IN DIV 1
WHO WILL BE COUNTY CHAMPS !!!
For Suffolk, go online and look at the YJ and TG rosters for 2015-18, figure out which district has the most first and second team travel players (weight the first teamers more), throw in some extra points for first team blue chippers, and you will have your answer. Some of the best players are in districts with very little support from teammates, they will not compete. Simply the district with the most amount of higher end travel players will compete.
If this is true, how come Northport doesn't win every year since Northport girls are 100% YJ's?
Because very few Northport girls actually belong on the 1st YJ teams, they are only there because they live in Northport.
WHAT TEAMS ARE GONNA COMPETE IN DIV 1
WHO WILL BE COUNTY CHAMPS !!!
For Suffolk, go online and look at the YJ and TG rosters for 2015-18, figure out which district has the most first and second team travel players (weight the first teamers more), throw in some extra points for first team blue chippers, and you will have your answer. Some of the best players are in districts with very little support from teammates, they will not compete. Simply the district with the most amount of higher end travel players will compete.
If this is true, how come Northport doesn't win every year since Northport girls are 100% YJ's?
They are all YJ but they are not the top players on their individual teams. They are good and well coached and play with a level of intimidation but ultimately they are not great and haven't been for a while. As well as NPT did last year, they were not a good team and they didn't win when CF was asked to carry the load herself the year before.
WHAT TEAMS ARE GONNA COMPETE IN DIV 1
WHO WILL BE COUNTY CHAMPS !!!
For Suffolk, go online and look at the YJ and TG rosters for 2015-18, figure out which district has the most first and second team travel players (weight the first teamers more), throw in some extra points for first team blue chippers, and you will have your answer. Some of the best players are in districts with very little support from teammates, they will not compete. Simply the district with the most amount of higher end travel players will compete.
Not when the coaching is terrible and political influence affects the team.
WHAT TEAMS ARE GONNA COMPETE IN DIV 1
WHO WILL BE COUNTY CHAMPS !!!
For Suffolk, go online and look at the YJ and TG rosters for 2015-18, figure out which district has the most first and second team travel players (weight the first teamers more), throw in some extra points for first team blue chippers, and you will have your answer. Some of the best players are in districts with very little support from teammates, they will not compete. Simply the district with the most amount of higher end travel players will compete.
If this is true, how come Northport doesn't win every year since Northport girls are 100% YJ's?
Because very few Northport girls actually belong on the 1st YJ teams, they are only there because they live in Northport.
Coaching
How about this simple explanation for BBP and Mt Sinai
One team wanted it more!
One team had better coaching (he adjusted their gameplan and rotating of starters to give them a breather)
One coach ran his starters into the ground by not rotating them in and out for a short break occasionally, really stupid error.
Best of luck to both teams this season.
BBP will take it all!
Better team with support from parents.
Coach is loud but it works. Lots of success so far.
BBP will take it all!
Better team with support from parents.
Coach is loud but it works. Lots of success so far.
Sounds like a formula for success. Me, personally, am taking the team with the most talent! We'll see if BBP is that team.
[quote=Anonymous]BBP will take it all!
Better team with support from parents.
Coach is loud but it works. Lots of success so far.
Sounds like a formula for success. Me, personally, am taking the team with the most talent! We'll see if BBP is that team. [/quote
"Support from parents." What does this even mean? Don't all parents support their team? I'm not from Mt. Sinai but they certainly support their team vigorously.
With so much talk about the club scene from 2021 thru 2020 why not talk MS or JV lax. Over the years I have not seen much talk about the Jv scene let alone MS. You have situations like Riverhead and some others entertaining 7th graders as potential players.
if we spoke more of the JV scene we may have a better idea whoich teams would have a good group moving up.
Who were the better JV squads last year. WM WI BS NP MC. Seems like the same clubs as the past.
JV is more social than lax. That's why no one talks about it. It's a way point on the way to HS ball.
With so much talk about the club scene from 2021 thru 2020 why not talk MS or JV lax. Over the years I have not seen much talk about the Jv scene let alone MS. You have situations like Riverhead and some others entertaining 7th graders as potential players.
if we spoke more of the JV scene we may have a better idea whoich teams would have a good group moving up.
Who were the better JV squads last year. WM WI BS NP MC. Seems like the same clubs as the past.
MS, everyone plays. Games are only competitive because after a four goal lead, the other team gets the ball. JV has no playoffs amd no OT. Teams that do well at these levels do not necessarily do well at the Varsity level, and vice versa.
With so much talk about the club scene from 2021 thru 2020 why not talk MS or JV lax. Over the years I have not seen much talk about the Jv scene let alone MS. You have situations like Riverhead and some others entertaining 7th graders as potential players.
if we spoke more of the JV scene we may have a better idea whoich teams would have a good group moving up.
Who were the better JV squads last year. WM WI BS NP MC. Seems like the same clubs as the past.
MS, everyone plays. Games are only competitive because after a four goal lead, the other team gets the ball. JV has no playoffs amd no OT. Teams that do well at these levels do not necessarily do well at the Varsity level, and vice versa.
Very true that a MS team is not predictive of the quality of a V team. Think about a large HS that has several MSs feeding into it; whatever talent is there is spread out on several teams until they reach HS. Or conversely, the small school that only has one MS; that team has all the talent in the district and can dominate a MS team from a large school -- but that doesn't translate to the HS level. MS games are not league play in the sense that small schools play small schools.
JV doesn't mean much in terms of predicting V either. You still have some girls who are there because their friends play. Your coaching can be questionable. Some girls may be pulled up to V at any point within the season, some girls may be pulled up to JV from MS. It's a mishmosh of players.
JV is more social than lax. That's why no one talks about it. It's a way point on the way to HS ball.
I believe you and I debated this the past 2 years. Noting the same schools. We will agree to disagree but I doubt the JV squads of WM WI BS NP are as much social as they are a feeder for V. It is also hard to say that these four arnt always in the thick of things.
As much as you don't want to discount the JV's, what other Suffolk districts besides WM WI BS NP Smith's have had strong Jv's programs. I believe it will translate to the better V programs. Good JV does lead to good V.
JV is more social than lax. That's why no one talks about it. It's a way point on the way to HS ball.
I believe you and I debated this the past 2 years. Noting the same schools. We will agree to disagree but I doubt the JV squads of WM WI BS NP are as much social as they are a feeder for V. It is also hard to say that these four arnt always in the thick of things.
As much as you don't want to discount the JV's, what other Suffolk districts besides WM WI BS NP Smith's have had strong Jv's programs. I believe it will translate to the better V programs. Good JV does lead to good V.
Every district has its own philosophy on how to develope a program and its all about producing the strongest varsity team they can in the end. Some will bring up every player from JV and Middle school if it gives them an edge, some will never bring kids up. Point is that the middle school and JV team will be greatly impacted by what the philosophy is. You will see one program destroy another in the JV years only to have the tables turned by the time the same kids get to the varsity level. In essence, it then is not really worth talking about MS and JV, only varsity.
JV is more social than lax. That's why no one talks about it. It's a way point on the way to HS ball.
I believe you and I debated this the past 2 years. Noting the same schools. We will agree to disagree but I doubt the JV squads of WM WI BS NP are as much social as they are a feeder for V. It is also hard to say that these four arnt always in the thick of things.
As much as you don't want to discount the JV's, what other Suffolk districts besides WM WI BS NP Smith's have had strong Jv's programs. I believe it will translate to the better V programs. Good JV does lead to good V.
Every district has its own philosophy on how to develope a program and its all about producing the strongest varsity team they can in the end. Some will bring up every player from JV and Middle school if it gives them an edge, some will never bring kids up. Point is that the middle school and JV team will be greatly impacted by what the philosophy is. You will see one program destroy another in the JV years only to have the tables turned by the time the same kids get to the varsity level. In essence, it then is not really worth talking about MS and JV, only varsity.
you are going to tell me the jv and varsity games at the schools mentioned were not competitive wm wi bs np smiths have all been top schools. they also had top jv's, no? I understand when a town doesn't have the numbers it seems they must pull up and that dilutes the ms and jv squad but that hurts the district because they don't have the numbers and has to pull up.
Some how those programs seem to do it.
how is GC 'pequa fdale manhasett EI ESM Jv been. I think they do it as well, of course there will be the once in a run teams. but has history told us the programs with stronger prepared JV players will in turn be stronger V's. Why do we always over look the Jv's
I am all for the solid freshman to move up. But I also believe in if she can dominate at JV and get more playing time play there than varsity PLAY JV. If she is just taking a roster spot (a bench spot) let her play JV, let another (yes dare I say not as good player sr perhaps) take that bench spot.
all the parent run booster clubs in the world can't change or fix our districts coaches or philosophy. It's a shame
all the parent run booster clubs in the world can't change or fix our districts coaches or philosophy. It's a shame
And what district is that?
Who will win D3? Who will deffenitly lose?
all the parent run booster clubs in the world can't change or fix our districts coaches or philosophy. It's a shame
And what district is that?
Towns with big youth programs have strong HS programs. Many kids aren't interested in playing summer club lacrosse in 2nd grade need to keep those boys and girls involved somehow.
all the parent run booster clubs in the world can't change or fix our districts coaches or philosophy. It's a shame
And what district is that?
ESM
all the parent run booster clubs in the world can't change or fix our districts coaches or philosophy. It's a shame
And what district is that?
ESM
That is exactly the problem at ESM, too many parents trying to manipulate, twist, spin, cheat...... It is a bad environment from town level to club level to school ball. Look at the post above, parent upset because the parents can't kiss [lacrosse] and manipulate the school coach? What a sad statement.
all the parent run booster clubs in the world can't change or fix our districts coaches or philosophy. It's a shame
And what district is that?
ESM
That is exactly the problem at ESM, too many parents trying to manipulate, twist, spin, cheat...... It is a bad environment from town level to club level to school ball. Look at the post above, parent upset because the parents can't kiss [lacrosse] and manipulate the school coach? What a sad statement.
OK I can understand your manipulate,twist, spin comment. Please explain how a volunteer parent can cheat the Varsity program in ESM?
It's not just ESM, every school's booster club has a handful of parents with their lips firmly affixed to coaches asses looking for selfish access. And they have the conversations with the coaches just like the kids wearing their kids travel club logo wear, it's funny
It's not just ESM, every school's booster club has a handful of parents with their lips firmly affixed to coaches asses looking for selfish access. And they have the conversations with the coaches just like the kids wearing their kids travel club logo wear, it's funny
We have it in our school district too. It's gross, parents with money getting extra attention for their daughters.
It's not just ESM, every school's booster club has a handful of parents with their lips firmly affixed to coaches asses looking for selfish access. And they have the conversations with the coaches just like the kids wearing their kids travel club logo wear, it's funny
We have it in our school district too. It's gross, parents with money getting extra attention for their daughters.
In our district, it's the dad with the camcorder who tapes all our games for the coach.
In our district ir's the 2 moms who run the girls lax program.
It's not just ESM, every school's booster club has a handful of parents with their lips firmly affixed to coaches asses looking for selfish access. And they have the conversations with the coaches just like the kids wearing their kids travel club logo wear, it's funny
We have it in our school district too. It's gross, parents with money getting extra attention for their daughters.
In our district, it's the dad with the camcorder who tapes all our games for the coach.
And don't you just love the emails starting with "We have been asked by the coaches to..." Everyone knows the coaches don't ask for anything. The emails are driven by over zealous parents usually with an agenda.
It's not just ESM, every school's booster club has a handful of parents with their lips firmly affixed to coaches asses looking for selfish access. And they have the conversations with the coaches just like the kids wearing their kids travel club logo wear, it's funny
We have it in our school district too. It's gross, parents with money getting extra attention for their daughters.
In our district, it's the dad with the camcorder who tapes all our games for the coach.
And don't you just love the emails starting with "We have been asked by the coaches to..." Everyone knows the coaches don't ask for anything. The emails are driven by over zealous parents usually with an agenda.
YES! The parents who unilaterally decide when the pasta parties are and the like. Coach doesn't care, but those parents want the control and a reason to get in touch with the coach and let them know all they're doing. I've seen similar at the college level, truth be told. Politics are everywhere.
It's not just ESM, every school's booster club has a handful of parents with their lips firmly affixed to coaches asses looking for selfish access. And they have the conversations with the coaches just like the kids wearing their kids travel club logo wear, it's funny
We have it in our school district too. It's gross, parents with money getting extra attention for their daughters.
In our district, it's the dad with the camcorder who tapes all our games for the coach.
And don't you just love the emails starting with "We have been asked by the coaches to..." Everyone knows the coaches don't ask for anything. The emails are driven by over zealous parents usually with an agenda.
YES! The parents who unilaterally decide when the pasta parties are and the like. Coach doesn't care, but those parents want the control and a reason to get in touch with the coach and let them know all they're doing. I've seen similar at the college level, truth be told. Politics are everywhere.
Oh I see. Your the same people who would [lacrosse] and complain if parents didn't get involved. Without the involvement there would be no pasta parties or tailgate parties or clothing orders or trips. Damned if you do and damned if you don't it seems huh?
It's the parents who do nothing but watch and complain that is the problem!!!
We had a mom decide on the saying that was used on the attire-kids and coaches had no idea there was going to be a saying much less what it meant!
We had a mom decide on the saying that was used on the attire-kids and coaches had no idea there was going to be a saying much less what it meant!
Then you should have been involved instead of letting it happen then complain. At least she did something.
My daughter plays three sports a year in HS, by a large margin the lacrosse parents booster club over steps the most. It's like a carry over of the super political summer travel season. They can't help themselves. Pick the 3 pasta nights, collect the $50 bucks for the sweatshirt and then just watch games like the rest of us. My kid plays school lax to get away from the summer political BS.
RIGHT!!
Watch out for the quiet parents in the crowd, (I have been around for a few years)
They are the ones who get it done behind everyones back, e-mails and phone calls NEVER one word while in the crowd.
Just watch the starting line ups that will tell you the whole story. You know the PARENT WHO SAYS I WOULD NEVER TALK TO A COACH
Maybe you should have made better business decisions in your life and you could be one of the parents with money. I am so sick and tired of parents complaining about people that have very successful careers and make a large income. I for one am not ashamed of having money. Money buys a better life, influences people, and I am able to provide my daughter with the best coaching, private lax trainers, and private speed and agility trainers. I for one teach my children that having money is a good thing. Nothing in life is handed to you. You must go out and take it.
Maybe you should have made better business decisions in your life and you could be one of the parents with money. I am so sick and tired of parents complaining about people that have very successful careers and make a large income. I for one am not ashamed of having money. Money buys a better life, influences people, and I am able to provide my daughter with the best coaching, private lax trainers, and private speed and agility trainers. I for one teach my children that having money is a good thing. Nothing in life is handed to you. You must go out and take it.
You are not the problem. I agree with you that you should teach your child to work hard and that if earning a lot of money is one of the results good for you and all who make it.
The "Problem" is the Athletic Directors and Coaches who allow themselves to be influenced. Coaches should play the best players.
Maybe you should have made better business decisions in your life and you could be one of the parents with money. I am so sick and tired of parents complaining about people that have very successful careers and make a large income. I for one am not ashamed of having money. Money buys a better life, influences people, and I am able to provide my daughter with the best coaching, private lax trainers, and private speed and agility trainers. I for one teach my children that having money is a good thing. Nothing in life is handed to you. You must go out and take it.
You are correct, and lacrosse is a money sport. People think because we are in a big district we dominate in lacrosse, but that is not the case, because we are not an upper class district. A lot of the B & C class towns have money, and when we scrimmage them, we get killed. Their parents can afford the best camps, clinics, travel, privates, speed and agility training. Money can buy skill in this sport.
We had a mom decide on the saying that was used on the attire-kids and coaches had no idea there was going to be a saying much less what it meant!
Then you should have been involved instead of letting it happen then complain. At least she did something.
Nobody is allowed to help these 2 control freaks. Even the coach is annoyed with them. It's my child's last year and then we are gone but I intend on addressing several issues once I know they can't retaliate against my kid.
Maybe you should have made better business decisions in your life and you could be one of the parents with money. I am so sick and tired of parents complaining about people that have very successful careers and make a large income. I for one am not ashamed of having money. Money buys a better life, influences people, and I am able to provide my daughter with the best coaching, private lax trainers, and private speed and agility trainers. I for one teach my children that having money is a good thing. Nothing in life is handed to you. You must go out and take it.
You are correct, and lacrosse is a money sport. People think because we are in a big district we dominate in lacrosse, but that is not the case, because we are not an upper class district. A lot of the B & C class towns have money, and when we scrimmage them, we get killed. Their parents can afford the best camps, clinics, travel, privates, speed and agility training. Money can buy skill in this sport.
I disagree that money can buy skill. My daughter has played on a travel team with a girl for the past 4 years. Her parents are VERY well off and she is fortunate to have a private trainer for just about everything. 4 years later she is still slow, uncoordinated and has terrible stick skills. Money can buy opportunities but it can't always buy skill.
Maybe you should have made better business decisions in your life and you could be one of the parents with money. I am so sick and tired of parents complaining about people that have very successful careers and make a large income. I for one am not ashamed of having money. Money buys a better life, influences people, and I am able to provide my daughter with the best coaching, private lax trainers, and private speed and agility trainers. I for one teach my children that having money is a good thing. Nothing in life is handed to you. You must go out and take it.
You are correct, and lacrosse is a money sport. People think because we are in a big district we dominate in lacrosse, but that is not the case, because we are not an upper class district. A lot of the B & C class towns have money, and when we scrimmage them, we get killed. Their parents can afford the best camps, clinics, travel, privates, speed and agility training. Money can buy skill in this sport.
I disagree that money can buy skill. My daughter has played on a travel team with a girl for the past 4 years. Her parents are VERY well off and she is fortunate to have a private trainer for just about everything. 4 years later she is still slow, uncoordinated and has terrible stick skills. Money can buy opportunities but it can't always buy skill.
True, but it can buy a spot on TG and YJ
Maybe you should have made better business decisions in your life and you could be one of the parents with money. I am so sick and tired of parents complaining about people that have very successful careers and make a large income. I for one am not ashamed of having money. Money buys a better life, influences people, and I am able to provide my daughter with the best coaching, private lax trainers, and private speed and agility trainers. I for one teach my children that having money is a good thing. Nothing in life is handed to you. You must go out and take it.
You are correct, and lacrosse is a money sport. People think because we are in a big district we dominate in lacrosse, but that is not the case, because we are not an upper class district. A lot of the B & C class towns have money, and when we scrimmage them, we get killed. Their parents can afford the best camps, clinics, travel, privates, speed and agility training. Money can buy skill in this sport.
I disagree that money can buy skill. My daughter has played on a travel team with a girl for the past 4 years. Her parents are VERY well off and she is fortunate to have a private trainer for just about everything. 4 years later she is still slow, uncoordinated and has terrible stick skills. Money can buy opportunities but it can't always buy skill.
Yes, I agree, money doesn't work in all cases, but if the girl has some athletic ability she will get better with all the extras, these are the girls we see standing out at the high school level.
Maybe you should have made better business decisions in your life and you could be one of the parents with money. I am so sick and tired of parents complaining about people that have very successful careers and make a large income. I for one am not ashamed of having money. Money buys a better life, influences people, and I am able to provide my daughter with the best coaching, private lax trainers, and private speed and agility trainers. I for one teach my children that having money is a good thing. Nothing in life is handed to you. You must go out and take it.
You are correct, and lacrosse is a money sport. People think because we are in a big district we dominate in lacrosse, but that is not the case, because we are not an upper class district. A lot of the B & C class towns have money, and when we scrimmage them, we get killed. Their parents can afford the best camps, clinics, travel, privates, speed and agility training. Money can buy skill in this sport.
I disagree that money can buy skill. My daughter has played on a travel team with a girl for the past 4 years. Her parents are VERY well off and she is fortunate to have a private trainer for just about everything. 4 years later she is still slow, uncoordinated and has terrible stick skills. Money can buy opportunities but it can't always buy skill.
I guess without underlying talent, all the training in the world isn't going to give you the skills you want. But if there is some innate ability then I'd say that money/training are going to yield results.
You are born with it or you aren't. all the training in the world can't make someone with 2 left feet a top level player. The training does make a good player better...but never great. I do agree that paying into the travel system does reap benefits whether warranted or not. The extras do buy you access and some butt kissing helps too.
Anyone know how the Nassau teams look this year?
In our program the Booster club is only there to assist the head coach with his plan for the season. Booster Club President and assistant plan fundraising and social events only. All team related issues are between the coach and the players. Btw the booster club people are hand picked by the coach. This keeps the butt kissers away.
In our program the Booster club is only there to assist the head coach with his plan for the season. Booster Club President and assistant plan fundraising and social events only. All team related issues are between the coach and the players. Btw the booster club people are hand picked by the coach. This keeps the butt kissers away.
Our coach hand selects her "helpers" who all happen to play for her club program. How our AD and school let her get away with her clear conflicts of interest is simply amazing.
In our program the Booster club is only there to assist the head coach with his plan for the season. Booster Club President and assistant plan fundraising and social events only. All team related issues are between the coach and the players. Btw the booster club people are hand picked by the coach. This keeps the butt kissers away.
Our coach hand selects her "helpers" who all happen to play for her club program. How our AD and school let her get away with her clear conflicts of interest is simply amazing.
Our coach welcomes the butt kissers, and definitely favors those who belong to her travel program.
In our program the Booster club is only there to assist the head coach with his plan for the season. Booster Club President and assistant plan fundraising and social events only. All team related issues are between the coach and the players. Btw the booster club people are hand picked by the coach. This keeps the butt kissers away.
Those are the butt kissers
I am truly amazed at the amount of whining that some people feel the need to post. I mean really. Have some self respect. If you are not able to navigate the girls lacrosse landscape successfully for your daughter then you need to look at your efforts and/or strategy. Being a spectator and not putting in the time and effort will most likely yeild bad results. That's how life works. Coming here to cry and complain and most likely do the same around your daughter teaches her nothing except what not to do. You can all say what you want about politics and money and how both influence ones level of success and my response is WELCOME TO REALITY. Maybe those of you on the wrong end of your programs politics should figure out a way to get on the right end of it. Maybe get involved more. Worst that can happen is you get to share some good experiences with your daughter. Either way it's better than the pity party your trying to drag us all to.
In our program the Booster club is only there to assist the head coach with his plan for the season. Booster Club President and assistant plan fundraising and social events only. All team related issues are between the coach and the players. Btw the booster club people are hand picked by the coach. This keeps the butt kissers away.
Our coach hand selects her "helpers" who all happen to play for her club program. How our AD and school let her get away with her clear conflicts of interest is simply amazing.
Our coach welcomes the butt kissers, and definitely favors those who belong to her travel program.
What town? Any guesses?
Just got me email about selling cookie dough with the threat that if we don't sell she is telling the coach on us
In our program the Booster club is only there to assist the head coach with his plan for the season. Booster Club President and assistant plan fundraising and social events only. All team related issues are between the coach and the players. Btw the booster club people are hand picked by the coach. This keeps the butt kissers away.
Our coach hand selects her "helpers" who all happen to play for her club program. How our AD and school let her get away with her clear conflicts of interest is simply amazing.
Our coach welcomes the butt kissers, and definitely favors those who belong to her travel program.
What town? Any guesses?
NP
Just got me email about selling cookie dough with the threat that if we don't sell she is telling the coach on us
I am a Varsity Booster Club President. The reality is that the booster club can not make your daughters sell anything. The coach may hear who sells and who doesn't but is wrong for them to take it out on the kids. Some families can not afford to buy all of the tickets and items that are sent home. One phone call to your AD and the Booster Club will be put in its place.
Maybe you should have made better business decisions in your life and you could be one of the parents with money. I am so sick and tired of parents complaining about people that have very successful careers and make a large income. I for one am not ashamed of having money. Money buys a better life, influences people, and I am able to provide my daughter with the best coaching, private lax trainers, and private speed and agility trainers. I for one teach my children that having money is a good thing. Nothing in life is handed to you. You must go out and take it.
You are correct, and lacrosse is a money sport. People think because we are in a big district we dominate in lacrosse, but that is not the case, because we are not an upper class district. A lot of the B & C class towns have money, and when we scrimmage them, we get killed. Their parents can afford the best camps, clinics, travel, privates, speed and agility training. Money can buy skill in this sport.
I disagree that money can buy skill. My daughter has played on a travel team with a girl for the past 4 years. Her parents are VERY well off and she is fortunate to have a private trainer for just about everything. 4 years later she is still slow, uncoordinated and has terrible stick skills. Money can buy opportunities but it can't always buy skill.
Yes, I agree, money doesn't work in all cases, but if the girl has some athletic ability she will get better with all the extras, these are the girls we see standing out at the high school level.
There are many attributes that great players possess. Good players will do well in several categories, very good players in most categories and great players in all categories. This is a rare player, you might see a player or two on the blue or black team and that's it. Even on these elite top teams most of the players are far from a complete player in all these categories. The first three categories players can work on and improve, the rest you have to be born with.
1) SKILLS- cradling, left, right, shooting, dodging, rides, slides, checking, draws, boxing, transition etc.....
2) CONDITIONING- strength and cardio.
3) Lax IQ- This goes beyond knowing the rules, gamemenship and team philosophy. There are a million do's and don'ts that only seem mastered by college players.
4) SPEED- and know how and when to use it.
5) AGILITY - The ability to change direction on a dime and leave a defender in the dust. The hand speed to check that ball out and catch it before it hits the ground. The ability to constantly put your body in the way of an attacker turn after turn. Agility may be the most important attribute a player can have.
6) Athleticism - Could have left this one off as it is just basically a term we use to define a player with the above attributes.
7) Field Awareness - Not just being aware but acting on it and taking advantage of it, making the right decision every time so the player must be unselfish which rules out about 80% of players right off the bat.
8) Aggressiveness/hustle - Please do not mistake this for go to goal disease. It pertains to aggressiveness on all around field play.
The scary part of this is it will be lost on most parents out there, with the parent goggles on.
There are many attributes that great players possess. Good players will do well in several categories, very good players in most categories and great players in all categories. This is a rare player, you might see a player or two on the blue or black team and that's it. Even on these elite top teams most of the players are far from a complete player in all these categories. The first three categories players can work on and improve, the rest you have to be born with.
1) SKILLS- cradling, left, right, shooting, dodging, rides, slides, checking, draws, boxing, transition etc.....
2) CONDITIONING- strength and cardio.
3) Lax IQ- This goes beyond knowing the rules, gamemenship and team philosophy. There are a million do's and don'ts that only seem mastered by college players.
4) SPEED- and know how and when to use it.
5) AGILITY - The ability to change direction on a dime and leave a defender in the dust. The hand speed to check that ball out and catch it before it hits the ground. The ability to constantly put your body in the way of an attacker turn after turn. Agility may be the most important attribute a player can have.
6) Athleticism - Could have left this one off as it is just basically a term we use to define a player with the above attributes.
7) Field Awareness - Not just being aware but acting on it and taking advantage of it, making the right decision every time so the player must be unselfish which rules out about 80% of players right off the bat.
8) Aggressiveness/hustle - Please do not mistake this for go to goal disease. It pertains to aggressiveness on all around field play.
The scary part of this is it will be lost on most parents out there, with the parent goggles on.
I like it. This is a good list. I very much agree with #7. The great players have great game sense and not just tunnel vision, and not just passing to their friend.
Just got me email about selling cookie dough with the threat that if we don't sell she is telling the coach on us
I am truly amazed at the amount of whining that some people feel the need to post. I mean really. Have some self respect. If you are not able to navigate the girls lacrosse landscape successfully for your daughter then you need to look at your efforts and/or strategy. Being a spectator and not putting in the time and effort will most likely yeild bad results. That's how life works. Coming here to cry and complain and most likely do the same around your daughter teaches her nothing except what not to do. You can all say what you want about politics and money and how both influence ones level of success and my response is WELCOME TO REALITY. Maybe those of you on the wrong end of your programs politics should figure out a way to get on the right end of it. Maybe get involved more. Worst that can happen is you get to share some good experiences with your daughter. Either way it's better than the pity party your trying to drag us all to.
There are many attributes that great players possess. Good players will do well in several categories, very good players in most categories and great players in all categories. This is a rare player, you might see a player or two on the blue or black team and that's it. Even on these elite top teams most of the players are far from a complete player in all these categories. The first three categories players can work on and improve, the rest you have to be born with.
1) SKILLS- cradling, left, right, shooting, dodging, rides, slides, checking, draws, boxing, transition etc.....
2) CONDITIONING- strength and cardio.
3) Lax IQ- This goes beyond knowing the rules, gamemenship and team philosophy. There are a million do's and don'ts that only seem mastered by college players.
4) SPEED- and know how and when to use it.
5) AGILITY - The ability to change direction on a dime and leave a defender in the dust. The hand speed to check that ball out and catch it before it hits the ground. The ability to constantly put your body in the way of an attacker turn after turn. Agility may be the most important attribute a player can have.
6) Athleticism - Could have left this one off as it is just basically a term we use to define a player with the above attributes.
7) Field Awareness - Not just being aware but acting on it and taking advantage of it, making the right decision every time so the player must be unselfish which rules out about 80% of players right off the bat.
8) Aggressiveness/hustle - Please do not mistake this for go to goal disease. It pertains to aggressiveness on all around field play.
The scary part of this is it will be lost on most parents out there, with the parent goggles on.
I like it. This is a good list. I very much agree with #7. The great players have great game sense and not just tunnel vision, and not just passing to their friend.
and what credentials do you have to post a list and/or like or agree with it?
It's always the travel parents with their fingerprints on the booster clubs. We just want to play school lacrosse and not write the $4,000 check you do every summer. How come other school sports do fine without all this meddling? We play school sports to get away from your politics...
It's always the travel parents with their fingerprints on the booster clubs. We just want to play school lacrosse and not write the $4,000 check you do every summer. How come other school sports do fine without all this meddling? We play school sports to get away from your politics...
It's in every sport, not just lacrosse. We even have what we call the "basketball mafia" in our district, a bunch of families who run the show.
There are many attributes that great players possess. Good players will do well in several categories, very good players in most categories and great players in all categories. This is a rare player, you might see a player or two on the blue or black team and that's it. Even on these elite top teams most of the players are far from a complete player in all these categories. The first three categories players can work on and improve, the rest you have to be born with.
1) SKILLS- cradling, left, right, shooting, dodging, rides, slides, checking, draws, boxing, transition etc.....
2) CONDITIONING- strength and cardio.
3) Lax IQ- This goes beyond knowing the rules, gamemenship and team philosophy. There are a million do's and don'ts that only seem mastered by college players.
4) SPEED- and know how and when to use it.
5) AGILITY - The ability to change direction on a dime and leave a defender in the dust. The hand speed to check that ball out and catch it before it hits the ground. The ability to constantly put your body in the way of an attacker turn after turn. Agility may be the most important attribute a player can have.
6) Athleticism - Could have left this one off as it is just basically a term we use to define a player with the above attributes.
7) Field Awareness - Not just being aware but acting on it and taking advantage of it, making the right decision every time so the player must be unselfish which rules out about 80% of players right off the bat.
8) Aggressiveness/hustle - Please do not mistake this for go to goal disease. It pertains to aggressiveness on all around field play.
The scary part of this is it will be lost on most parents out there, with the parent goggles on.
I like it. This is a good list. I very much agree with #7. The great players have great game sense and not just tunnel vision, and not just passing to their friend.
and what credentials do you have to post a list and/or like or agree with it?
Same as anybody else with eyes, a brain, and experience.
It's always the travel parents with their fingerprints on the booster clubs. We just want to play school lacrosse and not write the $4,000 check you do every summer. How come other school sports do fine without all this meddling? We play school sports to get away from your politics...
Our coach has made it very clear that if you don't play travel for her program then you have a problem.
It's always the travel parents with their fingerprints on the booster clubs. We just want to play school lacrosse and not write the $4,000 check you do every summer. How come other school sports do fine without all this meddling? We play school sports to get away from your politics...
Our coach has made it very clear that if you don't play travel for her program then you have a problem.
It shouldn't be any clearer for you. Call your AD and make a complaint.
It's always the travel parents with their fingerprints on the booster clubs. We just want to play school lacrosse and not write the $4,000 check you do every summer. How come other school sports do fine without all this meddling? We play school sports to get away from your politics...
Our coach has made it very clear that if you don't play travel for her program then you have a problem.
It shouldn't be any clearer for you. Call your AD and make a complaint.
Complaints have fallen on deaf ears.
You whiners make me sick!
You whiners make me sick!
Nobody cares that you play on the "A" summer travel team or that your daughter committed in 3rd grade. Save your BS for summers and leave school ball alone.
You whiners make me sick!
Not a whiner. Just a parent of a great kid who also happens to be a great player (D1commit) who is sick and tired of the politics.
There are many attributes that great players possess. Good players will do well in several categories, very good players in most categories and great players in all categories. This is a rare player, you might see a player or two on the blue or black team and that's it. Even on these elite top teams most of the players are far from a complete player in all these categories. The first three categories players can work on and improve, the rest you have to be born with.
1) SKILLS- cradling, left, right, shooting, dodging, rides, slides, checking, draws, boxing, transition etc.....
2) CONDITIONING- strength and cardio.
3) Lax IQ- This goes beyond knowing the rules, gamemenship and team philosophy. There are a million do's and don'ts that only seem mastered by college players.
4) SPEED- and know how and when to use it.
5) AGILITY - The ability to change direction on a dime and leave a defender in the dust. The hand speed to check that ball out and catch it before it hits the ground. The ability to constantly put your body in the way of an attacker turn after turn. Agility may be the most important attribute a player can have.
6) Athleticism - Could have left this one off as it is just basically a term we use to define a player with the above attributes.
7) Field Awareness - Not just being aware but acting on it and taking advantage of it, making the right decision every time so the player must be unselfish which rules out about 80% of players right off the bat.
8) Aggressiveness/hustle - Please do not mistake this for go to goal disease. It pertains to aggressiveness on all around field play.
The scary part of this is it will be lost on most parents out there, with the parent goggles on.
I like it. This is a good list. I very much agree with #7. The great players have great game sense and not just tunnel vision, and not just passing to their friend.
and what credentials do you have to post a list and/or like or agree with it?
Same as anybody else with eyes, a brain, and experience.
And obviously way too much time on his hands. Get a life you loser.
You whiners make me sick!
Not a whiner. Just a parent of a great kid who also happens to be a great player (D1commit) who is sick and tired of the politics.
Very touching. Who cares. If you can't take the heat get out.
Otherwise what do you whiners propose?
Do you want NO involvement from anyone other than coaches?
Because your weak and can't seem to handle HS sports maybe you should find another hobby. Maybe bingo will work. Oh wait....who's gonna call the numbers and handle the markers and cards and money.....POLITICS IN BINGO TO....WAHHH
There are many attributes that great players possess. Good players will do well in several categories, very good players in most categories and great players in all categories. This is a rare player, you might see a player or two on the blue or black team and that's it. Even on these elite top teams most of the players are far from a complete player in all these categories. The first three categories players can work on and improve, the rest you have to be born with.
1) SKILLS- cradling, left, right, shooting, dodging, rides, slides, checking, draws, boxing, transition etc.....
2) CONDITIONING- strength and cardio.
3) Lax IQ- This goes beyond knowing the rules, gamemenship and team philosophy. There are a million do's and don'ts that only seem mastered by college players.
4) SPEED- and know how and when to use it.
5) AGILITY - The ability to change direction on a dime and leave a defender in the dust. The hand speed to check that ball out and catch it before it hits the ground. The ability to constantly put your body in the way of an attacker turn after turn. Agility may be the most important attribute a player can have.
6) Athleticism - Could have left this one off as it is just basically a term we use to define a player with the above attributes.
7) Field Awareness - Not just being aware but acting on it and taking advantage of it, making the right decision every time so the player must be unselfish which rules out about 80% of players right off the bat.
8) Aggressiveness/hustle - Please do not mistake this for go to goal disease. It pertains to aggressiveness on all around field play.
The scary part of this is it will be lost on most parents out there, with the parent goggles on.
I like it. This is a good list. I very much agree with #7. The great players have great game sense and not just tunnel vision, and not just passing to their friend.
and what credentials do you have to post a list and/or like or agree with it?
The points of the list are dead on, what does it matter if it came from a veteran D1 head coach or Suzie's mom from the PAL team. Perhaps you could expand the list or fine tune it but you really can't take anything off of it or argue any of the points are wrong or unimportant. Sorry if your daughter doesn't show well on the list, put your goggles back on, life is alot easier to accept when you are ignorant and oblivious.
There are many attributes that great players possess. Good players will do well in several categories, very good players in most categories and great players in all categories. This is a rare player, you might see a player or two on the blue or black team and that's it. Even on these elite top teams most of the players are far from a complete player in all these categories. The first three categories players can work on and improve, the rest you have to be born with.
1) SKILLS- cradling, left, right, shooting, dodging, rides, slides, checking, draws, boxing, transition etc.....
2) CONDITIONING- strength and cardio.
3) Lax IQ- This goes beyond knowing the rules, gamemenship and team philosophy. There are a million do's and don'ts that only seem mastered by college players.
4) SPEED- and know how and when to use it.
5) AGILITY - The ability to change direction on a dime and leave a defender in the dust. The hand speed to check that ball out and catch it before it hits the ground. The ability to constantly put your body in the way of an attacker turn after turn. Agility may be the most important attribute a player can have.
6) Athleticism - Could have left this one off as it is just basically a term we use to define a player with the above attributes.
7) Field Awareness - Not just being aware but acting on it and taking advantage of it, making the right decision every time so the player must be unselfish which rules out about 80% of players right off the bat.
8) Aggressiveness/hustle - Please do not mistake this for go to goal disease. It pertains to aggressiveness on all around field play.
The scary part of this is it will be lost on most parents out there, with the parent goggles on.
I like it. This is a good list. I very much agree with #7. The great players have great game sense and not just tunnel vision, and not just passing to their friend.
and what credentials do you have to post a list and/or like or agree with it?
The points of the list are dead on, what does it matter if it came from a veteran D1 head coach or Suzie's mom from the PAL team. Perhaps you could expand the list or fine tune it but you really can't take anything off of it or argue any of the points are wrong or unimportant. Sorry if your daughter doesn't show well on the list, put your goggles back on, life is alot easier to accept when you are ignorant and oblivious.
Kinda like you. Talk about ignorant you liberal sad sack. According to you everyone should play the same right? Don't want the girls that can't catch or run to get upset right?You make competitive sports athletes sick.
You whiners make me sick!
Not a whiner. Just a parent of a great kid who also happens to be a great player (D1commit) who is sick and tired of the politics.
Very touching. Who cares. If you can't take the heat get out.
Otherwise what do you whiners propose?
Do you want NO involvement from anyone other than coaches?
Because your weak and can't seem to handle HS sports maybe you should find another hobby. Maybe bingo will work. Oh wait....who's gonna call the numbers and handle the markers and cards and money.....POLITICS IN BINGO TO....WAHHH
This guy must be one of those F&F people you guys talk about.
You whiners make me sick!
Nobody cares that you play on the "A" summer travel team or that your daughter committed in 3rd grade. Save your BS for summers and leave school ball alone.
AMEN
You whiners make me sick!
Not a whiner. Just a parent of a great kid who also happens to be a great player (D1commit) who is sick and tired of the politics.
Very touching. Who cares. If you can't take the heat get out.
Otherwise what do you whiners propose?
Do you want NO involvement from anyone other than coaches?
Because your weak and can't seem to handle HS sports maybe you should find another hobby. Maybe bingo will work. Oh wait....who's gonna call the numbers and handle the markers and cards and money.....POLITICS IN BINGO TO....WAHHH
This guy must be one of those F&F people you guys talk about.
This tool must be one of those parents who's kid can't catch, run or play yet insists on dragging entire teams down. Then cries that it's all just not fair. Pathetic.
You whiners make me sick!
Not a whiner. Just a parent of a great kid who also happens to be a great player (D1commit) who is sick and tired of the politics.
Very touching. Who cares. If you can't take the heat get out.
Otherwise what do you whiners propose?
Do you want NO involvement from anyone other than coaches?
Because your weak and can't seem to handle HS sports maybe you should find another hobby. Maybe bingo will work. Oh wait....who's gonna call the numbers and handle the markers and cards and money.....POLITICS IN BINGO TO....WAHHH
This guy must be one of those F&F people you guys talk about.
Still haven't heard of any solution to your whining issues. Because you people just love to complain and protest instead of getting involved. You sit back while others put in the time and effort and because your kid isn't as good as some others there HAS to be a reason...it can't be that she's just not that good right?? Your all a bunch of excuse making clowns teaching your kids to do the same. Please remove your Obama/Biden sticker from your Prius too. Thanks
You whiners make me sick!
Nobody cares that you play on the "A" summer travel team or that your daughter committed in 3rd grade. Save your BS for summers and leave school ball alone.
AMEN
It's time to tell your kid to either practice and get better so you don't have to gather your very small group of other underachieving parents and protest against those that do achieve. If you can't then stop forcing her to play. She has the cool lax swag already. That's all she wanted anyway. Let her do something else she may be good at. You too.
You whiners make me sick!
Nobody cares that you play on the "A" summer travel team or that your daughter committed in 3rd grade. Save your BS for summers and leave school ball alone.
AMEN
It's time to tell your kid to either practice and get better so you don't have to gather your very small group of other underachieving parents and protest against those that do achieve. If you can't then stop forcing her to play. She has the cool lax swag already. That's all she wanted anyway. Let her do something else she may be good at. You too.
What does a middle of the road non travel player have to do with overbearing travel parents?
Very good list. It must be rare to see a very young player who meets these criteria. Would you agree? Tunnel vision negates many kids from making the grade.
There are many attributes that great players possess. Good players will do well in several categories, very good players in most categories and great players in all categories. This is a rare player, you might see a player or two on the blue or black team and that's it. Even on these elite top teams most of the players are far from a complete player in all these categories. The first three categories players can work on and improve, the rest you have to be born with.
1) SKILLS- cradling, left, right, shooting, dodging, rides, slides, checking, draws, boxing, transition etc.....
2) CONDITIONING- strength and cardio.
3) Lax IQ- This goes beyond knowing the rules, gamemenship and team philosophy. There are a million do's and don'ts that only seem mastered by college players.
4) SPEED- and know how and when to use it.
5) AGILITY - The ability to change direction on a dime and leave a defender in the dust. The hand speed to check that ball out and catch it before it hits the ground. The ability to constantly put your body in the way of an attacker turn after turn. Agility may be the most important attribute a player can have.
6) Athleticism - Could have left this one off as it is just basically a term we use to define a player with the above attributes.
7) Field Awareness - Not just being aware but acting on it and taking advantage of it, making the right decision every time so the player must be unselfish which rules out about 80% of players right off the bat.
8) Aggressiveness/hustle - Please do not mistake this for go to goal disease. It pertains to aggressiveness on all around field play.
The scary part of this is it will be lost on most parents out there, with the parent goggles on.
I like it. This is a good list. I very much agree with #7. The great players have great game sense and not just tunnel vision, and not just passing to their friend.
The list is impossible and there is no player who would therefore be a great player in your opinion.
There are many attributes that great players possess. Good players will do well in several categories, very good players in most categories and great players in all categories. This is a rare player, you might see a player or two on the blue or black team and that's it. Even on these elite top teams most of the players are far from a complete player in all these categories. The first three categories players can work on and improve, the rest you have to be born with.
1) SKILLS- cradling, left, right, shooting, dodging, rides, slides, checking, draws, boxing, transition etc.....
2) CONDITIONING- strength and cardio.
3) Lax IQ- This goes beyond knowing the rules, gamemenship and team philosophy. There are a million do's and don'ts that only seem mastered by college players.
4) SPEED- and know how and when to use it.
5) AGILITY - The ability to change direction on a dime and leave a defender in the dust. The hand speed to check that ball out and catch it before it hits the ground. The ability to constantly put your body in the way of an attacker turn after turn. Agility may be the most important attribute a player can have.
6) Athleticism - Could have left this one off as it is just basically a term we use to define a player with the above attributes.
7) Field Awareness - Not just being aware but acting on it and taking advantage of it, making the right decision every time so the player must be unselfish which rules out about 80% of players right off the bat.
8) Aggressiveness/hustle - Please do not mistake this for go to goal disease. It pertains to aggressiveness on all around field play.
The scary part of this is it will be lost on most parents out there, with the parent goggles on.
I like it. This is a good list. I very much agree with #7. The great players have great game sense and not just tunnel vision, and not just passing to their friend.
The list is impossible and there is no player who would therefore be a great player in your opinion.
Near impossible, they call those players blue chip. Maybe a small handful from the entire Island each year.
There are many attributes that great players possess. Good players will do well in several categories, very good players in most categories and great players in all categories. This is a rare player, you might see a player or two on the blue or black team and that's it. Even on these elite top teams most of the players are far from a complete player in all these categories. The first three categories players can work on and improve, the rest you have to be born with.
1) SKILLS- cradling, left, right, shooting, dodging, rides, slides, checking, draws, boxing, transition etc.....
2) CONDITIONING- strength and cardio.
3) Lax IQ- This goes beyond knowing the rules, gamemenship and team philosophy. There are a million do's and don'ts that only seem mastered by college players.
4) SPEED- and know how and when to use it.
5) AGILITY - The ability to change direction on a dime and leave a defender in the dust. The hand speed to check that ball out and catch it before it hits the ground. The ability to constantly put your body in the way of an attacker turn after turn. Agility may be the most important attribute a player can have.
6) Athleticism - Could have left this one off as it is just basically a term we use to define a player with the above attributes.
7) Field Awareness - Not just being aware but acting on it and taking advantage of it, making the right decision every time so the player must be unselfish which rules out about 80% of players right off the bat.
8) Aggressiveness/hustle - Please do not mistake this for go to goal disease. It pertains to aggressiveness on all around field play.
The scary part of this is it will be lost on most parents out there, with the parent goggles on.
I like it. This is a good list. I very much agree with #7. The great players have great game sense and not just tunnel vision, and not just passing to their friend.
The list is impossible and there is no player who would therefore be a great player in your opinion.
Are you kidding? Of course there are players out there! Maybe not every good player is the best in all categories, but they are probably outstanding in several and above average and trying to improve in the others.
There is no player that makes the "right decision every time" so no that player does not exist
There is no player that makes the "right decision every time" so no that player does not exist
Great players do exist. Brady and Manning are great, yet some wrong decisions cost them at times. Lebron, Jordan are great yet make wrong decisions. Your just being a nit picking weenie.
Arguing over some dumb list ..........................cmon man. Must be the winter with cold temps and snow.
Just heard that long time Port coach is out for 2015.
Our girls get 5 to open gym time so what are we trying to boost with the booster club?
Our girls get 5 to open gym time so what are we trying to boost with the booster club?
What does that mean?
has nassau posted the divisional breakout for girls yet
Just heard that long time Port coach is out for 2015.
Wouldn't doubt it. Port was really good in the 90s but has fallen off for a while.
That's funny cause they have been to
The county semi finals for 7 of the last 8 years
Wouldn't call that Falling off in nassau
That's funny cause they have been to
The county semi finals for 7 of the last 8 years
Wouldn't call that Falling off in nassau
To make it to the semis in Class A is really not that hard to do. Not a lot of competition.
Very few schools if any fire coaches for not winning. Run a clean program, keep parents quiet and its a job for life. Only us parents care about wins and losses for most coaches it is just a check.
There must be a parent with a lot of pull in Port . Usually the union takes care of the teachers who want the coaching jobs!
Lets name the top Class A schools in Nassau ..... Really Farmingdale and FAR behind Massapequa.
The Class A,B and C numbers were changed a few years ago and Class B top 4 is the best class in nassau (Manhasset ,Wantagh, Garden City and North Shore) which I think all these teams beat Farmingdale last season.
lets not forget work ethic! having all of the above skills will not make you a great player if you don't have the work ethic. a good player works as hard as everyone else. A great player works harder than everyone else.
lets not forget work ethic! having all of the above skills will not make you a great player if you don't have the work ethic. a good player works as hard as everyone else. A great player works harder than everyone else.
I know I'm misquoting but my daughter has a t-shirt that says, "Talent will get you there, hard work will keep you there."
[quote=Anonymous]lets not forget work ethic! having all of the above skills will not make you a great player if you don't have the work ethic. a good player works as hard as everyone else. A great player works harder than everyone else.
I know I'm misquoting but my daughter has a t-shirt that says, "Talent will get you there, hard work will keep you there." [/quote
There is another shirt that says something like "hard work earns you turf - excuses earn you the bench"
anyone want to take a crack at Nassaus top ten teams for 2015
Manhasset, Wantagh, Garden city,CSH,Farmingdale,North shore,Mass.,Southside,Oceanside,Plainedge
does anyone know the conference breakout
[quote=Anonymous]does anyone know the conference breakout [/quote
Huh?
does anyone know the team breakout for conference 1 to 5 in nassau and who is the favorite to win each conference
Bot sure of what the divisions are called this year-
A - Major
Massapequa, farmingdale, garden city, Wantagh, cold spring, southside, north shore, manhasset, Syosset.
B - Intermediate
Seaford, macarthur, Calhoun, port Washington, Hewlett, locust valley, plainedge, long beach, oyster bay
C- Minor
division, Freeport, mineola, herricks, bellmore, Bethpage, mepham, nhp, floral park, glen cove
Looks like Syosset moved up and Plainedge went down. Any other changes?
Bot sure of what the divisions are called this year-
A - Major
Massapequa, farmingdale, garden city, Wantagh, cold spring, southside, north shore, manhasset, Syosset.
B - Intermediate
Seaford, macarthur, Calhoun, port Washington, Hewlett, locust valley, plainedge, long beach, oyster bay
C- Minor
division, Freeport, mineola, herricks, bellmore, Bethpage, mepham, nhp, floral park, glen cove
For A in 2015 drop South Side add Oceanside not sure of #10
[quote=Anonymous]lets not forget work ethic! having all of the above skills will not make you a great player if you don't have the work ethic. a good player works as hard as everyone else. A great player works harder than everyone else.
I know I'm misquoting but my daughter has a t-shirt that says, "Talent will get you there, hard work will keep you there." [/quote
There is another shirt that says something like "hard work earns you turf - excuses earn you the bench"
Hard work BEATS TALENT when talent DOESNT WORK HARD
Schedules are up on the section 8 website add Oceanside to A. Add Hicksville to B. Southside is still in A as a league game.
Manhasset, Wantagh, Garden city,CSH,Farmingdale,North shore,Mass.,Southside,Oceanside,Plainedge
Syosset and Long Beach beat out Oceanside and Plainedge
Bot sure of what the divisions are called this year-
A - Major
Massapequa, farmingdale, garden city, Wantagh, cold spring, southside, north shore, manhasset, Syosset.
B - Intermediate
Seaford, macarthur, Calhoun, port Washington, Hewlett, locust valley, plainedge, long beach, oyster bay
C- Minor
division, Freeport, mineola, herricks, bellmore, Bethpage, mepham, nhp, floral park, glen cove
MacArthur moved up, Plainedge and Long Beach will dominate
Bot sure of what the divisions are called this year-
A - Major
Massapequa, farmingdale, garden city, Wantagh, cold spring, southside, north shore, manhasset, Syosset.
B - Intermediate
Seaford, macarthur, Calhoun, port Washington, Hewlett, locust valley, plainedge, long beach, oyster bay
C- Minor
division, Freeport, mineola, herricks, bellmore, Bethpage, mepham, nhp, floral park, glen cove
MacArthur moved up, Plainedge and Long Beach will dominate
Will the B division have to play A in playoffs? Will Long Beach and Plainedge get a sniff of a conference championship after always getting bumped out by Manhasset & Garden City?
Let's not use the word dominate with those cream puffs in B conference. Neither LB or Plainedge are good
New rules @ college level for girlls no idea if it filters down to high school girls. My daughter texted this to me
1) Defenders can move through the goal circle while defending and defend a player with the ball from inside the goal circle (with certain restrictions that will be explained on game-day). (Appendix J -rule 1)
2) It is now legal to safely check through the sphere (Appendix J -rule 3)
#2 Ummm can anyone see the increase in head injuries?
New rules @ college level for girlls no idea if it filters down to high school girls. My daughter texted this to me
1) Defenders can move through the goal circle while defending and defend a player with the ball from inside the goal circle (with certain restrictions that will be explained on game-day). (Appendix J -rule 1)
2) It is now legal to safely check through the sphere (Appendix J -rule 3)
#2 Ummm can anyone see the increase in head injuries?
HERE COME THE HELMETS
Let's not use the word dominate with those cream puffs in B conference. Neither LB or Plainedge are good
I think they play the regular season against each opponent in these respective power conferences, but once playoffs start they go back to the traditional conferences based upon size....so Plainedge & LB will be back with GC, Manhasset, Wantagh...etc come playoff time.
Anyone know the club breakdown for the girls who made the USA Today national rankings?
Why isn't my 9th grader on the list she buzzes around all summer and is really good
Why isn't my 9th grader on the list she buzzes around all summer and is really good
hahaha
USA breakdown All YJ and one Liberty player
Congrats to all the girls from all the clubs. You can rip CR and YJ all you want but they produce players no doubt. Don't know if it comes from various team selections, press coverage or maybe even the fact that in YJ they have names on jerseys, but they do a very good job with getting players to be known quantities.
Congrats to all the girls from all the clubs. You can rip CR and YJ all you want but they produce players no doubt. Don't know if it comes from various team selections, press coverage or maybe even the fact that in YJ they have names on jerseys, but they do a very good job with getting players to be known quantities.
no they dont....they just have more players than anyone...thus more talent...reality...it is a small percentage of they overall club.
YJ gets the top athletes that is what makes the program good. But only so many top players can play at once. Better players that may not be getting the time have to go somewhere else to develop their potential rather than sit on the bench just to say they are a YJ. Case in point Taylor Moreno, Elevate; Katie Reily, Elevate; Katie Muldoon, TG.
All of these lists skew toward the more recognizable clubs and programs across all sports. Do you really think USA today and Under Armor and Nike and msg varsity really know these kids especially the ones near the bottom? A Wave kid probably has to be twice as good as a YJ to make the list.
Great job by any kid on ANY list but the "name game" definitely plays a part. Politics are everywhere
All of these lists skew toward the more recognizable clubs and programs across all sports. Do you really think USA today and Under Armor and Nike and msg varsity really know these kids especially the ones near the bottom? A Wave kid probably has to be twice as good as a YJ to make the list.
Great job by any kid on ANY list but the "name game" definitely plays a part. Politics are everywhere
Congratulations to all the girls who made the list! I'm sure there are many more who deserve some accolades as well.
From the USA today list with clubs
Attack
Brindi Griffin, McDonogh School, M&D
Lindsey Ronbeck, Manhasset High School, liberty
Nikki Ortega, Centereach High School , Yellow Jackets
Nicole Levy, East Islip High School, Top Guns
Midfield
Miranda Ibello, Maryvale Prepatory,SkyWalkers
Hannah Warther, Century High School,CHECK-HERS
Olivia “Ya” Ferrucci, Barron Collier High School,Skywalkers
Charlotte Sofield, Bishop Ireton High School, Capital Lacrosse
Sydney Pirreca, Mount Sinai High School , Yellow Jackets
Kerrigan Miller, Bayport-Blue Point High School, Yellow Jackets
Defense
Erin Kelly, Clarkstown South High School, Metro Magic
Sarah Platt, Agnes Irwin School, Phantastix
Claire Quinn, St. Anthony’s High School, Yellow Jackets
Cara Trombetta, Sachem High School east, Yellow Jackets
Sam Giacolone, Eastport South Manor Jr.-Sr. High School, Yellow Jackets
YJ gets the top athletes that is what makes the program good. But only so many top players can play at once. Better players that may not be getting the time have to go somewhere else to develop their potential rather than sit on the bench just to say they are a YJ. Case in point Taylor Moreno, Elevate; Katie Reily, Elevate; Katie Muldoon, TG.
Ther are better players on that TG team
From the USA today list with clubs
Attack
Brindi Griffin, McDonogh School, M&D
Lindsey Ronbeck, Manhasset High School, liberty
Nikki Ortega, Centereach High School , Yellow Jackets
Nicole Levy, East Islip High School, Top Guns
Midfield
Miranda Ibello, Maryvale Prepatory,SkyWalkers
Hannah Warther, Century High School,CHECK-HERS
Olivia “Ya” Ferrucci, Barron Collier High School,Skywalkers
Charlotte Sofield, Bishop Ireton High School, Capital Lacrosse
Sydney Pirreca, Mount Sinai High School , Yellow Jackets
Kerrigan Miller, Bayport-Blue Point High School, Yellow Jackets
Defense
Erin Kelly, Clarkstown South High School, Metro Magic
Sarah Platt, Agnes Irwin School, Phantastix
Claire Quinn, St. Anthony’s High School, Yellow Jackets
Cara Trombetta, Sachem High School east, Yellow Jackets
Sam Giacolone, Eastport South Manor Jr.-Sr. High School, Yellow Jackets
Great showing from LI! More than 50% on the first team! That is good for all the Clubs and High Schools!
Does ESM have a new girls coach for 2015? or is the goalie daddy the new coach?
Does ESM have a new girls coach for 2015? or is the goalie daddy the new coach?
Here we go its starting already!
Women's lacrosse is such a great sport to watch . There are truly some amazing kids who are so gifted athletically. Thank you for sharing your daughters with the rest of us. In no time they will be heading off to college and starting the next chapter of their lives. Please take the time to enjoy these wonderful young ladies. Enough with knocking another person down for whatever perceived shortcomings they may have. These are our daughters and they will be gone before you can blink an eye. Hug your daughter when she gets home. I guarantee you will feel better than when you spend time online.
ENJOY THE WEEKEND!
Women's lacrosse is such a great sport to watch . There are truly some amazing kids who are so gifted athletically. Thank you for sharing your daughters with the rest of us. In no time they will be heading off to college and starting the next chapter of their lives. Please take the time to enjoy these wonderful young ladies. Enough with knocking another person down for whatever perceived shortcomings they may have. These are our daughters and they will be gone before you can blink an eye. Hug your daughter when she gets home. I guarantee you will feel better than when you spend time online.
ENJOY THE WEEKEND!
A very nice thoughtful post! Thanks, hope it hits home to people who read this site!
#Take A look at the Divisions for this year. I wonder how many of the "A" schools avoid the teams that dropped to "B"?
GIRLS LACROSSE (Approved 5/20/14)
Division I (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Half Hollow Hills
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Middle Country
Sachem East
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Northport
Bay Shore
Walt Whitman
Smithtown East
Smithtown West
Copiague
Riverhead
West Islip
North Babylon
Division II
East Islip (B)
West Babylon (B)
Bellport (B)
Deer Park (B)
Hauppauge (B)
Huntington (B)
Eastport-S Manor (B)
Kings Park (B)
Harborfields (B)
Comsewogue (B)
Rocky Point (B)
Islip (B)
Sayville (B)
Westhampton (B)
Miller Place (B)
E Hampton/BH/Pier (B)
Mt. Sinai (C)
Shoreham-WR (C)
Bayport-Blue Pt (C)
Elwood-J Glenn (C)
Matt/Shld/Gpt (C)
Hampton Bays (C)
Center Moriches (C)
Babylon (C)
McGann-Mercy (C)
#Take A look at the Divisions for this year. I wonder how many of the "A" schools avoid the teams that dropped to "B"?
GIRLS LACROSSE (Approved 5/20/14)
Division I (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Half Hollow Hills
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Middle Country
Sachem East
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Northport
Bay Shore
Walt Whitman
Smithtown East
Smithtown West
Copiague
Riverhead
West Islip
North Babylon
Division II
East Islip (B)
West Babylon (B)
Bellport (B)
Deer Park (B)
Hauppauge (B)
Huntington (B)
Eastport-S Manor (B)
Kings Park (B)
Harborfields (B)
Comsewogue (B)
Rocky Point (B)
Islip (B)
Sayville (B)
Westhampton (B)
Miller Place (B)
E Hampton/BH/Pier (B)
Mt. Sinai (C)
Shoreham-WR (C)
Bayport-Blue Pt (C)
Elwood-J Glenn (C)
Matt/Shld/Gpt (C)
Hampton Bays (C)
Center Moriches (C)
Babylon (C)
McGann-Mercy (C)
They all avoid them. Unless coaches choose to schedule them as a non-league or scrimmage.
B has alot of good teams with the exception of DP and Com whereas A is split between good and bad. C is also split between good and bad and the top of C compares to the top of B
Looks like W Bab N Haup are playing W I. E I didn't schedule any tough NL.
Looks like W Bab N Haup are playing W I. E I didn't schedule any tough NL.
After a very poor season last year, EI has to go back to easy schedule to get winnable games in order to rebuild confidence.
Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer
Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer
It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.
Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer
It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.
Lol. Narcissistic Sayville guy at it again. I thought box scores don't tell the truth? Like the Maryland Hofstra game. Get over yourself Mr. Know-it-all.
Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer
It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.
Lol. Narcissistic Sayville guy at it again. I thought box scores don't tell the truth? Like the Maryland Hofstra game. Get over yourself Mr. Know-it-all.
Box scores? What are you talking about? Picked the two teams from the Finals last year in div 2, added two teams that dropped from Division 1. I didn't have any horses in the race last year. You can argue for any team that made semis last year too. Don't remember off hand, but do think it was Sayvile/ESM in the finals last year if I remember correctly. So add whoever else you think belongs in the conversation, I am sure there must be a half dozen teams that could take the division.
Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer
It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.
Many towns In "A" are happy to see W Bab and Hauppauge go to "B". My $ is on Hauppauge to win it in Suffolk.
Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer
It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.
Many towns In "A" are happy to see W Bab and Hauppauge go to "B". My $ is on Hauppauge to win it in Suffolk.
That is what is great about this sport, many small schools can put together very strong teams. Look at Mt. Sinai's recent run. You could put them against any of the larger school powerhouses and they compete.
What districts allow 7th and 8th graders to play jv or varsity? Does every district make their own decision about this?
What districts allow 7th and 8th graders to play jv or varsity? Does every district make their own decision about this?
Yes. It's different in every district.
What districts allow 7th and 8th graders to play jv or varsity? Does every district make their own decision about this?
Yes. It's different in every district.
I have been told by parents of certain districts that their own district won't pull 7 th, or 8th or whatever up because its against their policy, mostly to justify that their daughters not getting pulled up. Then to see them pull from these grades a year or two later.
Some district constantly pull up, some seemingly never and some only when a truly special player comes along, I support the last scenario.
Some pull up based on merit, some pull up based on needing roster bodies
Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer
It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.
Many towns In "A" are happy to see W Bab and Hauppauge go to "B". My $ is on Hauppauge to win it in Suffolk.
Stop!!! Huntington is team to beat in B. Mt. Sinai in C. Hauppauge,WBab, EI will help thin herd in B. Bayport had nice run in 2014. It's over.
the state gives each school district the latitude of whether or not they will pull any middle school players.
If the school district allows a child to be pulled up they have the say on who is allowed to take the test, or if they will only take up am 8th grader or if they have to pass the Jv or Varsity portion of the Selection Classification test.
Now if your school district doesn't allow a 7th grader but does allow an 8th grader you can petition the BOE to allow 7th graders. Or if the district doesn't allow any Middle school kids you can petition the BOE.
but good luck petitioning the school against the wishes of the AD.
School districts also can make a rule that they will only pull up
My district used to pull up a lot but this year changed policy somewhat. There is nothing set in any district and it can change whenever.
What districts allow 7th and 8th graders to play jv or varsity? Does every district make their own decision about this?
Yes. It's different in every district.
I have been told by parents of certain districts that their own district won't pull 7 th, or 8th or whatever up because its against their policy, mostly to justify that their daughters not getting pulled up. Then to see them pull from these grades a year or two later.
Some district constantly pull up, some seemingly never and some only when a truly special player comes along, I support the last scenario.
Actually it depends on whether or not the 7th or 8th grader plays for the HS Coaches club program. If they don't they won't get pulled up.
My district used to pull up a lot but this year changed policy somewhat. There is nothing set in any district and it can change whenever.
It has to be set and recorded by the BOE of the district. What the policy is before the school year. But the AD has the final say. Can deny anyone for any reasondac
Our schools policy was quiet for years until some YJ parents brought it back to forefront with petitions for 7th and 8th graders to play varsity The parents thought the kids should be up because they have a bumper sticker.
I understand the call ups for roster need and ability but because you are a YJ?
If your kid is good the varsity coach will know about her. The coach ahould have a need for her on his/her team with the realization that she will play on varsity and be effective . The coach would have already reached out to you months ago to discuss the classification process with you. If you have not heard from anyone at this point the reality is your daughter may be good but not any better than what the coach already has. So she will have to play MS ball like everyone else. When her time comes maybe 8th grade maybe not all depends on the district, she will get the call up maybe to Varsity or JV . Coaches will fight for your kid if she is needed. The problem is parents fight for their kid before they are needed and it puts a bad taste in everyone's mouth from the Ad down.
If your kid is good the varsity coach will know about her. The coach ahould have a need for her on his/her team with the realization that she will play on varsity and be effective . The coach would have already reached out to you months ago to discuss the classification process with you. If you have not heard from anyone at this point the reality is your daughter may be good but not any better than what the coach already has. So she will have to play MS ball like everyone else. When her time comes maybe 8th grade maybe not all depends on the district, she will get the call up maybe to Varsity or JV . Coaches will fight for your kid if she is needed. The problem is parents fight for their kid before they are needed and it puts a bad taste in everyone's mouth from the Ad down.
Most accurate thing I've read so far regarding this process.
If your kid is good the varsity coach will know about her. The coach ahould have a need for her on his/her team with the realization that she will play on varsity and be effective . The coach would have already reached out to you months ago to discuss the classification process with you. If you have not heard from anyone at this point the reality is your daughter may be good but not any better than what the coach already has. So she will have to play MS ball like everyone else. When her time comes maybe 8th grade maybe not all depends on the district, she will get the call up maybe to Varsity or JV . Coaches will fight for your kid if she is needed. The problem is parents fight for their kid before they are needed and it puts a bad taste in everyone's mouth from the Ad down.
Most accurate thing I've read so far regarding this process.
Accurate but sometimes politics is involved.
I was lucky enough to have my child called up. I also saw other children called up over others who were more talented with higher Lax IQ that played the same position.
Our schools policy was quiet for years until some YJ parents brought it back to forefront with petitions for 7th and 8th graders to play varsity The parents thought the kids should be up because they have a bumper sticker.
I understand the call ups for roster need and ability but because you are a YJ?
A core contributer of a YJ blue or TG black team is a far cry from a lower 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th team player. 90% of YJ or tg or whatever travel club should not be pulled up. Many of the non travel kids are better than club kids on the lower teams. You also have issues with club directors telling kids and parents that their 7-8th grader should be playing varsity. Even read that recently I think on the TG thread. Guy above only had it half right, some town and districts do not have a good connection to the SCGL league and do not know what is coming down the pipes. Some of the town coaches and directors are the same exact people pressuring the varsity coaches and AD with their own kids and agendas.
Our schools policy was quiet for years until some YJ parents brought it back to forefront with petitions for 7th and 8th graders to play varsity The parents thought the kids should be up because they have a bumper sticker.
I understand the call ups for roster need and ability but because you are a YJ?
A core contributer of a YJ blue or TG black team is a far cry from a lower 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th team player. 90% of YJ or tg or whatever travel club should not be pulled up. Many of the non travel kids are better than club kids on the lower teams. You also have issues with club directors telling kids and parents that their 7-8th grader should be playing varsity. Even read that recently I think on the TG thread. Guy above only had it half right, some town and districts do not have a good connection to the SCGL league and do not know what is coming down the pipes. Some of the town coaches and directors are the same exact people pressuring the varsity coaches and AD with their own kids and agendas.
Unfortunately the agendas run rampant. Our booster clubs are run by parents from the big girls and boys clubs. They are the ones planting the seeds about the players to watch
No one should play up unless your schools program needs to fill roster spots to field a team. For programs that have enough, or too many that they need to make cuts, bringing kids up should be out of the question. I assure you that it is not in the best interest of the younger kids. They will be resented by the older players who were cut or who's friends were cut. Not what you want for your child who will be entering high school within a year or two. They will have bier time. Let the high school aged players have theirs.
Our schools policy was quiet for years until some YJ parents brought it back to forefront with petitions for 7th and 8th graders to play varsity The parents thought the kids should be up because they have a bumper sticker.
I understand the call ups for roster need and ability but because you are a YJ?
A core contributer of a YJ blue or TG black team is a far cry from a lower 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th team player. 90% of YJ or tg or whatever travel club should not be pulled up. Many of the non travel kids are better than club kids on the lower teams. You also have issues with club directors telling kids and parents that their 7-8th grader should be playing varsity. Even read that recently I think on the TG thread. Guy above only had it half right, some town and districts do not have a good connection to the SCGL league and do not know what is coming down the pipes. Some of the town coaches and directors are the same exact people pressuring the varsity coaches and AD with their own kids and agendas.
My kid plays on one of the "Top Clubs" whatever that means, and I am very comfortable with her ability to compete with the girls her age. In any of the top districts it is rare for a 7th or 8th grader to be an impact player on Varsity. My kids time will come whenever that is. I am not sure when all of this "get pulled up early" stuff started but it is IMO not in the best interest of the kids or the Varsity program as a whole. It is merely to satisfy the egos of the parents that want to see their kid on Varsity even if it is only to be a practice body. The call will come when the time is right. Till then keep your daughter focused on what she needs to do for herself to keep improving . I want my kid on Varsity when the time is right for her to make a difference on the field not from the sidelines filling a roster spot. If that is in 8th, 9th, or 10th grade time will tell.
Our schools policy was quiet for years until some YJ parents brought it back to forefront with petitions for 7th and 8th graders to play varsity The parents thought the kids should be up because they have a bumper sticker.
I understand the call ups for roster need and ability but because you are a YJ?
A core contributer of a YJ blue or TG black team is a far cry from a lower 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th team player. 90% of YJ or tg or whatever travel club should not be pulled up. Many of the non travel kids are better than club kids on the lower teams. You also have issues with club directors telling kids and parents that their 7-8th grader should be playing varsity. Even read that recently I think on the TG thread. Guy above only had it half right, some town and districts do not have a good connection to the SCGL league and do not know what is coming down the pipes. Some of the town coaches and directors are the same exact people pressuring the varsity coaches and AD with their own kids and agendas.
My kid plays on one of the "Top Clubs" whatever that means, and I am very comfortable with her ability to compete with the girls her age. In any of the top districts it is rare for a 7th or 8th grader to be an impact player on Varsity. My kids time will come whenever that is. I am not sure when all of this "get pulled up early" stuff started but it is IMO not in the best interest of the kids or the Varsity program as a whole. It is merely to satisfy the egos of the parents that want to see their kid on Varsity even if it is only to be a practice body. The call will come when the time is right. Till then keep your daughter focused on what she needs to do for herself to keep improving . I want my kid on Varsity when the time is right for her to make a difference on the field not from the sidelines filling a roster spot. If that is in 8th, 9th, or 10th grade time will tell.
Forget the 7th or 8th grader playing Varsity most times a
worthy 9th or 10th Grader has 11th and 12th grade parents complaining.
No one should play up unless your schools program needs to fill roster spots to field a team. For programs that have enough, or too many that they need to make cuts, bringing kids up should be out of the question. I assure you that it is not in the best interest of the younger kids. They will be resented by the older players who were cut or who's friends were cut. Not what you want for your child who will be entering high school within a year or two. They will have bier time. Let the high school aged players have theirs.
Hog wash. Poppy [lacrosse] take your pick.
Players who have aspirations to play in college want to play with the best they can against the best they can. if what you say is true the philosophy would work for Freshman and Sophomores too. WAIT THEIR TURN, NO, PLAY WHEN YOU CAN AND DESERVE TO PLAY.
No player should be brought up to fill a number or fill a roster spot. A player should only be brought up because she/he is on level and/or better than what you have and is both physically and mentally mature enough to make the leap.
I have seen those special players the past few years, Modified or even JV is a waste for them.
My daughter was brought up simply because they thought she would contribute significantly, be a starter to the varsity and most important of all it was in the best interest for her in terms of being challenged. Say what you want but from a challenged aspect middle school lacrosse is a joke , one notch above PE class. I find it interesting that we want our kids to be challenged academically such as being in honors or AP classes but feel differently when it comes to athletics. I get the fact that some may question the safety because of the size differential etc., but go watch any high school game and you will see kids of vastly different sizes. From a social aspect it was a very positive experience and still remains friends with some of the older group 4 years later. The only people that complain when the kid is good enough to be brought up are the parents of the kid that thinks their daughters spot was taken.
No one should play up unless your schools program needs to fill roster spots to field a team. For programs that have enough, or too many that they need to make cuts, bringing kids up should be out of the question. I assure you that it is not in the best interest of the younger kids. They will be resented by the older players who were cut or who's friends were cut. Not what you want for your child who will be entering high school within a year or two. They will have bier time. Let the high school aged players have theirs.
Hog wash. Poppy [lacrosse] take your pick.
Players who have aspirations to play in college want to play with the best they can against the best they can. if what you say is true the philosophy would work for Freshman and Sophomores too. WAIT THEIR TURN, NO, PLAY WHEN YOU CAN AND DESERVE TO PLAY.
No player should be brought up to fill a number or fill a roster spot. A player should only be brought up because she/he is on level and/or better than what you have and is both physically and mentally mature enough to make the leap.
I have seen those special players the past few years, Modified or even JV is a waste for them.
Agree 100 %, just saw an 8th grade wrestler win a state championship in wrestling, last year he took 2nd, should this kid not be given the opportunity to perform at that level because it was not his turn ?
No one should play up unless your schools program needs to fill roster spots to field a team. For programs that have enough, or too many that they need to make cuts, bringing kids up should be out of the question. I assure you that it is not in the best interest of the younger kids. They will be resented by the older players who were cut or who's friends were cut. Not what you want for your child who will be entering high school within a year or two. They will have bier time. Let the high school aged players have theirs.
Hog wash. Poppy [lacrosse] take your pick.
Players who have aspirations to play in college want to play with the best they can against the best they can. if what you say is true the philosophy would work for Freshman and Sophomores too. WAIT THEIR TURN, NO, PLAY WHEN YOU CAN AND DESERVE TO PLAY.
No player should be brought up to fill a number or fill a roster spot. A player should only be brought up because she/he is on level and/or better than what you have and is both physically and mentally mature enough to make the leap.
I have seen those special players the past few years, Modified or even JV is a waste for them.
Agree 100 %, just saw an 8th grade wrestler win a state championship in wrestling, last year he took 2nd, should this kid not be given the opportunity to perform at that level because it was not his turn ?
Great thing about sports like wrestling, swimming, Tennis there is an individual aspect if you deserve it will show.
Cuts down of the my child did his time when the younger one is
beating them.
No one should play up unless your schools program needs to fill roster spots to field a team. For programs that have enough, or too many that they need to make cuts, bringing kids up should be out of the question. I assure you that it is not in the best interest of the younger kids. They will be resented by the older players who were cut or who's friends were cut. Not what you want for your child who will be entering high school within a year or two. They will have bier time. Let the high school aged players have theirs.
Hog wash. Poppy [lacrosse] take your pick.
Players who have aspirations to play in college want to play with the best they can against the best they can. if what you say is true the philosophy would work for Freshman and Sophomores too. WAIT THEIR TURN, NO, PLAY WHEN YOU CAN AND DESERVE TO PLAY.
No player should be brought up to fill a number or fill a roster spot. A player should only be brought up because she/he is on level and/or better than what you have and is both physically and mentally mature enough to make the leap.
I have seen those special players the past few years, Modified or even JV is a waste for them.
Agree 100 %, just saw an 8th grade wrestler win a state championship in wrestling, last year he took 2nd, should this kid not be given the opportunity to perform at that level because it was not his turn ?
The wrestling analogy is off slightly...there were (5) 8th graders and to be honest (12) of the (16) boys at 99lbs were underclassmen (up to 10th grade). The main reason is because there are not that many upperclassmen that weigh 99lbs, especially in light of the weight loss restrictions today.
Apples and oranges... AP and honors classes are within the confines of grade at which you belong. Instead, let's move Little Susie up three grades. Maybe We can find an average student in 11th grade, kick them out of high school and give Litte Susie her seat in class.
Our schools policy was quiet for years until some YJ parents brought it back to forefront with petitions for 7th and 8th graders to play varsity The parents thought the kids should be up because they have a bumper sticker.
I understand the call ups for roster need and ability but because you are a YJ?
A core contributer of a YJ blue or TG black team is a far cry from a lower 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th team player. 90% of YJ or tg or whatever travel club should not be pulled up. Many of the non travel kids are better than club kids on the lower teams. You also have issues with club directors telling kids and parents that their 7-8th grader should be playing varsity. Even read that recently I think on the TG thread. Guy above only had it half right, some town and districts do not have a good connection to the SCGL league and do not know what is coming down the pipes. Some of the town coaches and directors are the same exact people pressuring the varsity coaches and AD with their own kids and agendas.
Unfortunately the agendas run rampant. Our booster clubs are run by parents from the big girls and boys clubs. They are the ones planting the seeds about the players to watch
Every school is different. Our booster club is run by non travel parents who spent all of last year rallying at school board meetings against girls getting moved up.
Apples and oranges... AP and honors classes are within the confines of grade at which you belong. Instead, let's move Little Susie up three grades. Maybe We can find an average student in 11th grade, kick them out of high school and give Litte Susie her seat in class.
Come on. There's plenty of room on the bench for Suzie. Next we will be guaranteeing equal playing time for all.
No one should play up unless your schools program needs to fill roster spots to field a team. For programs that have enough, or too many that they need to make cuts, bringing kids up should be out of the question. I assure you that it is not in the best interest of the younger kids. They will be resented by the older players who were cut or who's friends were cut. Not what you want for your child who will be entering high school within a year or two. They will have bier time. Let the high school aged players have theirs.
Hog wash. Poppy [lacrosse] take your pick.
Players who have aspirations to play in college want to play with the best they can against the best they can. if what you say is true the philosophy would work for Freshman and Sophomores too. WAIT THEIR TURN, NO, PLAY WHEN YOU CAN AND DESERVE TO PLAY.
No player should be brought up to fill a number or fill a roster spot. A player should only be brought up because she/he is on level and/or better than what you have and is both physically and mentally mature enough to make the leap.
I have seen those special players the past few years, Modified or even JV is a waste for them.
Agree 100 %, just saw an 8th grade wrestler win a state championship in wrestling, last year he took 2nd, should this kid not be given the opportunity to perform at that level because it was not his turn ?
The wrestling analogy is off slightly...there were (5) 8th graders and to be honest (12) of the (16) boys at 99lbs were underclassmen (up to 10th grade). The main reason is because there are not that many upperclassmen that weigh 99lbs, especially in light of the weight loss restrictions today.
okay I know this is a girls blog but there is a well know 7th grade boy out there who if he plays Modified could potentially kill a kid with his shot. Of course he would not intentionally do that, but against a lesser player with NO LAX IQ it could happen.
I am not always saying play Varsity but the JV option must be open for those exceptional players and there are more than you think out there. Saying wait their turn is just non sense.
Another ridiculous thing is the Selection Classification test. Sure there needs to be some benchmark okay. But show me a team where 100% of the players pass that thing. Additionally does anyone know the last time it was ratified, it is out dated.
The Wrestling analogy is spot on, the kid fills the spot that is needed for the wrestling team to have a full team at each weight class. I am sure you could have had any freshman or sophomore fill it but the 8th grader was better.
again it just promotes that just give participation awards out. Ilove that progressive video..
It okay tommy you didn't win this time, but you gave it your all, lets go get ice cream, Ice cream with sprinkles, NO, no sprinkles you didn't win!
Apples and oranges... AP and honors classes are within the confines of grade at which you belong. Instead, let's move Little Susie up three grades. Maybe We can find an average student in 11th grade, kick them out of high school and give Litte Susie her seat in class.
I know my district moves up students within a subject. The child will still stay in the year but will move to HS courses Like Algebra or Geometry or Earth Science or Biology.
It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix. [/quote]
I am sure there must be a half dozen teams that could take the division.[/quote]
I wouldn't be surprised if the winner in B has four losses. You take the teams listed above and throw EI in looking for a comeback year vs Smaller Schools. IIRC, Sayville beat both Huntington and Miller Place in the Playoffs last year by one goal so you can add them to the mix and Rocky Point, Islip and Westhampton have some very talented girls so we are looking at 10 teams with at least playoff aspirations. Should be a good year for Suffolk Girls Lacrosse!
[quote=Anonymous]Apples and oranges... AP and honors classes are within the confines of grade at which you belong. Instead, let's move Little Susie up three grades. Maybe We can find an average student in 11th grade, kick them out of high school and give Litte Susie her seat in class. [/quot
Actually in my school district there are 7-8th graders taking high school courses because they have shown an ability to handle the work so I think its an excellent analogy.
[quote=Anonymous]Apples and oranges... AP and honors classes are within the confines of grade at which you belong. Instead, let's move Little Susie up three grades. Maybe We can find an average student in 11th grade, kick them out of high school and give Litte Susie her seat in class. [/quot
Actually in my school district there are 7-8th graders taking high school courses because they have shown an ability to handle the work so I think its an excellent analogy.
Except that the 7-8th grader in the classroom isn't pushing an upperclassman out of her seat. Not saying I agree one way or the other, just pointing out the difference.
Hello. West islip. You aren't chiming in
Hello. West islip. You aren't chiming in
HAHA chiming in about what? the "B" stuff or the 7/8 stuff?
Hello. West islip. You aren't chiming in
HAHA chiming in about what? the "B" stuff or the 7/8 stuff?
WI vs MC for A Finals. No need for them to be on here until then.
No one should play up unless your schools program needs to fill roster spots to field a team. For programs that have enough, or too many that they need to make cuts, bringing kids up should be out of the question. I assure you that it is not in the best interest of the younger kids. They will be resented by the older players who were cut or who's friends were cut. Not what you want for your child who will be entering high school within a year or two. They will have bier time. Let the high school aged players have theirs.
Hog wash. Poppy [lacrosse] take your pick.
Players who have aspirations to play in college want to play with the best they can against the best they can. if what you say is true the philosophy would work for Freshman and Sophomores too. WAIT THEIR TURN, NO, PLAY WHEN YOU CAN AND DESERVE TO PLAY.
No player should be brought up to fill a number or fill a roster spot. A player should only be brought up because she/he is on level and/or better than what you have and is both physically and mentally mature enough to make the leap.
I have seen those special players the past few years, Modified or even JV is a waste for them.
Agree 100 %, just saw an 8th grade wrestler win a state championship in wrestling, last year he took 2nd, should this kid not be given the opportunity to perform at that level because it was not his turn ?
Congratulations to the young man for winning States, but please understand that NY is one of only two states that has a high school weight classification under 100 pounds. The reason for this is that most high school boys (including this young man) are likely to be 105 pounds or more (11-12% heavier than the 99 pound classification). So this young man won a weight class best-suited for his age. If you said that an eight grader won the 145 pound or 152 pound class, that might be more credible and relevant to boys high school lacrosse. Further, wrestling, by having weight classifications, limits the physical disparity that can exist between kids of different ages. If this same 99 pound wrestler were to step on the lacrosse field against a 205 pound defender, serious injury could occur.
I am curious , the" wait your turn proponents ". If a middle school cross country kids times put them as better than their high school varsity kids you still think she should not be brought up ?
I am curious , the" wait your turn proponents ". If a middle school cross country kids times put them as better than their high school varsity kids you still think she should not be brought up ?
I am not a wait your turn proponent but I think individual sports such as cc and tennis have to be looked at differently than contact sports like lax and soccer and this conversation is only about girls because you see 5 foot 100 pound 8th graders and 6'3" 225 pound 8th grade boys. My school district has had a handful of girls over the years come up and play lax and soccer (most of them actually played both) in 8th grade and they were all big strong girls who ended up playing D1 in college or are currently being recruited by big schools. The key here is that they were were bigger girls who could hold their own and not little pipsqueaks. Not to state the obvious,but there needs to be some kind of a physical test (a real one, not the fake one they use now) to determine eligibility and the other thing I think is that girls must be in 8th grade to play varsity and can only play jv in 7th grade.
Hello. West islip. You aren't chiming in
HAHA chiming in about what? the "B" stuff or the 7/8 stuff?
WI vs MC for A Finals. No need for them to be on here until then.
Nice job, you just blew it, now they are on here.
This is a great example of why NYS does selection classification. If this MS XC runner can beat the Varsity runners why shouldn't that child get the spot on the team? Would it help the child to play MS and run 1.5 miles when the child can beat the Varsity player at a 3 mile race? Does it help the varsity players get better if they are not challenged by better runners? The whole idea of selection classification is remove the age and grade from the analysis of the player's skill level and place them on a team that is appropriate giving consideration to player's skill, maturity, etc. It is and should be done on a case by case basis without pressure from the parents whose child might be displaced.
This is a great example of why NYS does selection classification. If this MS XC runner can beat the Varsity runners why shouldn't that child get the spot on the team? Would it help the child to play MS and run 1.5 miles when the child can beat the Varsity player at a 3 mile race? Does it help the varsity players get better if they are not challenged by better runners? The whole idea of selection classification is remove the age and grade from the analysis of the player's skill level and place them on a team that is appropriate giving consideration to player's skill, maturity, etc. It is and should be done on a case by case basis without pressure from the parents whose child might be displaced.
I am sorry nothing is a good example of the selection classification test.
The criteria is out dated.
If we want this to work then do a central process by Section.
Have selected doctors evaluate the children. Not one's own Pediatrician. I know quite a few (both male and female) who just got the dr to put a passing tanner score.
Food for thought, have the selected student-athletes go to Stony Brook for SectXI and/or Hofstra for VIII for a day and do the physical test (combine per say) in front of other kids from all over the sect. Noone gets a blind eye when doing an event. Noone gets a "pass". Evaluators are consistent across each school with in a section.
Yes, maybe ridiculous to a degree but the dedicated players would love the idea and the competition. It would actually be fun. Those that would be against it I can only think are borderline in passing the current benchmarks.
oh yeah and why not do these on the weekend, why do schools do this during the week?
It is done on weekdays during the week so they don't have to bring the PE teacher in on OT to give the test. Selective classification is fine. I have never heard of a kid not passing the test. I think this conversation is more about 7/8 grade girls wanting to play on JV or V and the districts not allowing them to.
This is a great example of why NYS does selection classification. If this MS XC runner can beat the Varsity runners why shouldn't that child get the spot on the team? Would it help the child to play MS and run 1.5 miles when the child can beat the Varsity player at a 3 mile race? Does it help the varsity players get better if they are not challenged by better runners? The whole idea of selection classification is remove the age and grade from the analysis of the player's skill level and place them on a team that is appropriate giving consideration to player's skill, maturity, etc. It is and should be done on a case by case basis without pressure from the parents whose child might be displaced.
I am sorry nothing is a good example of the selection classification test.
The criteria is out dated.
If we want this to work then do a central process by Section.
Have selected doctors evaluate the children. Not one's own Pediatrician. I know quite a few (both male and female) who just got the dr to put a passing tanner score.
Food for thought, have the selected student-athletes go to Stony Brook for SectXI and/or Hofstra for VIII for a day and do the physical test (combine per say) in front of other kids from all over the sect. Noone gets a blind eye when doing an event. Noone gets a "pass". Evaluators are consistent across each school with in a section.
Yes, maybe ridiculous to a degree but the dedicated players would love the idea and the competition. It would actually be fun. Those that would be against it I can only think are borderline in passing the current benchmarks.
oh yeah and why not do these on the weekend, why do schools do this during the week?
No offense but the current physical test ie bar hang etc. is for the most part ridiculously simple and in my opinion not very indicative of whether a kid is ready to be moved up. I have seen some 8th grade girls that play goalie that would be fine playing varsity but have no chance at actually passing the test while I have seen others that pass the test no problem but have no business playing varsity lax. I think you have to trust the AD, coaches , and yes the parents to do what is in the best interest of the kids. Have spoken to many parents who have had a kid move up and have not heard a negative from any of them in any sport.
This is a great example of why NYS does selection classification. If this MS XC runner can beat the Varsity runners why shouldn't that child get the spot on the team? Would it help the child to play MS and run 1.5 miles when the child can beat the Varsity player at a 3 mile race? Does it help the varsity players get better if they are not challenged by better runners? The whole idea of selection classification is remove the age and grade from the analysis of the player's skill level and place them on a team that is appropriate giving consideration to player's skill, maturity, etc. It is and should be done on a case by case basis without pressure from the parents whose child might be displaced.
Its not the same when you are comparing a running sport with no physical contact to lacrosse. I have had 2 girls play up in their respective sports. You should only be brought up if you are going to start or make an impact on the team. Period the end!
With the snow on the ground and being stuck in doors, any teams/coaches doing anything creative to get the girls to train? Anyone shoveling the fields? What are your HS coaches and teams doing?
With the snow on the ground and being stuck in doors, any teams/coaches doing anything creative to get the girls to train? Anyone shoveling the fields? What are your HS coaches and teams doing?
Any teams renting space at indoor facilities?
With the snow on the ground and being stuck in doors, any teams/coaches doing anything creative to get the girls to train? Anyone shoveling the fields? What are your HS coaches and teams doing?
Any teams renting space at indoor facilities?
We barely had money in the budget to pay for buses to away games..we will be practicing in the gym.. along with the boys team..softball, baseball, tennis, track etc..
Our towns numbers are way down so there are so few girls playing it would cost a fortune to rent out space. It is gyms for us!
Our towns numbers are way down so there are so few girls playing it would cost a fortune to rent out space. It is gyms for us!
That's what the booster club is for .
Booster club is to get favors from the coach for "supporting the team." The politics in our town is so incredible it is not even funny.
Coaches making decisions on friendships and where girls play in the summer rather than who is best for the team or the high school over all.
How is Daler nation going to be this year?
How is Daler nation going to be this year?
They weren't the team they had been last year. This year even worse....
How is Daler nation going to be this year?
They weren't the team they had been last year. This year even worse....
They graduated out some studs, not sure who's coming in behind
How is Daler nation going to be this year?
They weren't the team they had been last year. This year even worse....
They graduated out some studs, not sure who's coming in behind
They have TW going to JMU. Coming off serious leg injury. Not sure of any others .
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
A lot of schools have rules in place to prevent 7th or 8th graders from playing HS ball. Some only allow a couple of kids. I have a son and daughter in HS. Both on Varsity Lax. At my school, I see a huge difference in philosophy on the teams. The boys teams seem to be made strictly on talent with no regard for grade except for the number set by the district. And there doesn't seem to be a huge complaint by parents. On the girls side it is the complete opposite. Parents continually complain about the younger ones. Doesn't matter if they're 7, 8, 9 or even 10th grade. Seems to be an attitude that the talent doesn't matter as much as the age. Is this true in other districts or is it just mine? Should the girls be treated differently?
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
Problem is the coach is clueless and doesn't realize they are on the 5th or 6th YJ team, if you have the bumper sticker you must be good lol YJ should open up a marketing firm
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
Question for you? Your daughter makes varsity as an 8th grader but is told she will basically never step on the field. Do you stay on varsity or go to JV where you will play?
What is the rule for the amount of practices a jv or varsity player needs before she can play in a scrimmage or a game?
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
Question for you? Your daughter makes varsity as an 8th grader but is told she will basically never step on the field. Do you stay on varsity or go to JV where you will play?
JV no doubt
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
Question for you? Your daughter makes varsity as an 8th grader but is told she will basically never step on the field. Do you stay on varsity or go to JV where you will play?
JV no doubt
Thanks. I agree.
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
Question for you? Your daughter makes varsity as an 8th grader but is told she will basically never step on the field. Do you stay on varsity or go to JV where you will play?
JV no doubt
hanks. I agree.
LOL you are not a self respecting travel parent. You need to tell everyone your kid made varsity as an 8th grader
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
Question for you? Your daughter makes varsity as an 8th grader but is told she will basically never step on the field. Do you stay on varsity or go to JV where you will play?
I would definitely say JV!! Playing time on JV is far more valuable than bench time on varsity!
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
Question for you? Your daughter makes varsity as an 8th grader but is told she will basically never step on the field. Do you stay on varsity or go to JV where you will play?
I would definitely say JV!! Playing time on JV is far more valuable than bench time on varsity!
I would say it completely depends on the situation in your district. If the JV has a good coach and good players, then it may be a good idea. Some JV programs are a joke, unfortunately so are some varsity programs. Point is your daughter may be much better off and prepared for coming years by learning and practicing with the varsity team, rather than regressing under a bad JV coach and team.
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
Question for you? Your daughter makes varsity as an 8th grader but is told she will basically never step on the field. Do you stay on varsity or go to JV where you will play?
If my 9th grader was offered that I would advise her to stay on JV
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
Too many
Jv playing time is better than varsity bench time, however, time practicing with varsity players is much better for a strong player than practicing with jv players. Need to weigh a number of things when deciding.
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
Question for you? Your daughter makes varsity as an 8th grader but is told she will basically never step on the field. Do you stay on varsity or go to JV where you will play?
If my 9th grader was offered that I would advise her to stay on JV
Great stuff, but none of this applies to YJ's when you have CR and her cronies pushing for every 7th and 8th grader to be on varsity or JV.
Any big matchups this week?
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
Question for you? Your daughter makes varsity as an 8th grader but is told she will basically never step on the field. Do you stay on varsity or go to JV where you will play?
If my 9th grader was offered that I would advise her to stay on JV
Great stuff, but none of this applies to YJ's when you have CR and her cronies pushing for every 7th and 8th grader to be on varsity or JV.
Your obsession over CR is sad. I know of 3 YJ seventh graders being moved up (mine is not) , I am sure there are more but will say these 3 will not only play but will contribute to their varsity teams success. The high school coaches they play for have no YJ affiliation as a matter of fact 1 of the coaches is heavily involved in a competing club. That said the schools are all middle of the road better than average but not great programs.
Parents pushing their kids to commit early aggressively push to get up to Varsity so they can get it on the resume just like the political UA and Brine teams.
All the 8th graders that showed to tryouts with their YJ backpacks did. Fear the Bee
Question for you? Your daughter makes varsity as an 8th grader but is told she will basically never step on the field. Do you stay on varsity or go to JV where you will play?
If my 9th grader was offered that I would advise her to stay on JV
Great stuff, but none of this applies to YJ's when you have CR and her cronies pushing for every 7th and 8th grader to be on varsity or JV.
Your obsession over CR is sad. I know of 3 YJ seventh graders being moved up (mine is not) , I am sure there are more but will say these 3 will not only play but will contribute to their varsity teams success. The high school coaches they play for have no YJ affiliation as a matter of fact 1 of the coaches is heavily involved in a competing club. That said the schools are all middle of the road better than average but not great programs.
When you live in a district that has a YJ coach for HS you will know what we all go through. The politics is insane. I just don't understand how school boards allow these conflicts of interest to go on. Our school has a strong policy that no teacher is allowed to tutor kids in our district becaue of the inherant "pay for grades" conflict of interest. How do they allow the same to go on with sports where there is a "pay to play" conflict of interest.
When you see the coach having private meetings with her "summer kids" and with her "summer parents" it is joke and a conflict of interest. CR heavily promotes this to her coaches - fact! If you don;t play for YJ in Northport you have no chance of playing varsity lacrosse. How is this allowed?
There are a few out there on play-off caliber teams that will contribute to their teams. Good for them.
"When you see the coach having private meetings with her "summer kids" and with her "summer parents" it is joke and a conflict of interest. CR heavily promotes this to her coaches - fact! If you don;t play for YJ in Northport you have no chance of playing varsity lacrosse. How is this allowed?"
You lose me when you say something is a fact when you would have no idea if its factual.I have seen kids from many different club teams get selectively classified and kids in many sports , is CR using her influence for these kids also. In general YJ has more players and more of the top players so you would expect more of them to get selectively classified.
There are a few out there on play-off caliber teams that will contribute to their teams. Good for them.
What play-off caliber first round?
There are a few out there on play-off caliber teams that will contribute to their teams. Good for them.
What play-off caliber first round?
Didn't ESM have pulled up players contributing in last years county final playoffs?
Forget ESM - that program is turning into a shxt show
What do you make of a program that cuts girls from JV but parents complain and they are back on a week later after tryoouts
Very poorly run - to much politics - the program is not going to do well if this keeps up
If a 7th grader is a difference maker on a HS Varsity Team........that team is in trouble and I doubt a big time team in the first place.
Parents pushing their kids to commit early aggressively push up to Varsity so they can get it on the resume just like the political UA and Brine teams.
Very good point. With recruiting happening at such a young age there is pressure to have an in depth impressive "resume" so much sooner than in the past. So, the parents push, but it is somewhat understandable . The colleges are driving the behavior, at least in part. it is not just crazy parents. It is a shame in a sense that the entire high school sports environment, the old "meaning" of jv and varsity etc has changed so much. Please do not misinterpret. I am not against pulling up players but it should be limited to the truly gifted players, or used when numbers are needed to field a properly rostered varsity team.
Forget ESM - that program is turning into a shxt show
What do you make of a program that cuts girls from JV but parents complain and they are back on a week later after tryoouts
Very poorly run - to much politics - the program is not going to do well if this keeps up
There must have been room on the roster. Did all cut get a second chance? Hard to know what was discussed. Maybe allowed to join but without expectations of playing time.
No difference made by the 7th grader
If you recall ESM lost to Sayville
If a 7th grader is a difference maker on a HS Varsity Team........that team is in trouble and I doubt a big time team in the first place.
In Suffolk please tell me who the big time teams are, you sound like a jealous tool.Many of the top teams in Suffolk have pulled up 7th graders at some point.
No difference made by the 7th grader
If you recall ESM lost to Sayville
You can be the best player in the world and still play on the losing team.
As a whole, Long Island girls lacrosse seems to be headed into some lean years after 2015. The poster that said if a 7th grader is a difference maker your team is not good . Unfortunately for L.I. There are a lot of 7th grade difference makers on the horizon. Personally I think we should stop squabbling about this team or that and try to get the Island strong as a whole. Unfortunately you people are to petty and small to put such meager differences like who is got what pinnie on to see the bigger problem
If a 7th grader is a difference maker on a HS Varsity Team........that team is in trouble and I doubt a big time team in the first place.
Not all teams are going to be "big time" teams. There can only be 1 #1 team in each division. Some schools are small and not blessed with a large talent pool to pick from. Sometimes you have to deal with what you have.
I would rather 7th graders playing varsity rather than recruiting older bodies to fill roster
Your a moron - so high school girls are OLD!
Chauvinist pig!
I have read that money is not offered by colleges until senior year of high school, if that's true how does a 10th grade verbal know how much will be offered?
I have read that money is not offered by colleges until senior year of high school, if that's true how does a 10th grade verbal know how much will be offered?
They know how much but it is not final until they sign. Verbal agreements can be pulled,but colleges need to be careful that they don't get aa reputation of doing that.
I have read that money is not offered by colleges until senior year of high school, if that's true how does a 10th grade verbal know how much will be offered?
They know how much but it is not final until they sign. Verbal agreements can be pulled,but colleges need to be careful that they don't get aa reputation of doing that.
Verbals don't get pulled even when coaches change but the change sometimes leads to players backing out which is what the new coach wants most of the time anyway. Keep the grades up and your daughter will be fine
I have read that money is not offered by colleges until senior year of high school, if that's true how does a 10th grade verbal know how much will be offered?
They know how much but it is not final until they sign. Verbal agreements can be pulled,but colleges need to be careful that they don't get aa reputation of doing that.
Verbals don't get pulled even when coaches change but the change sometimes leads to players backing out which is what the new coach wants most of the time anyway. Keep the grades up and your daughter will be fine
Verbal scholarships do get pulled! Especially when there is a coaching change. But as a previous poster mentioned it gives the coach and the school a negative aura for future commits so they try to honor most of them. However....they do in fact get pulled sometimes. With the coaching carousel in college lax it makes early commitments very risky!!!!!
As a whole, Long Island girls lacrosse seems to be headed into some lean years after 2015. The poster that said if a 7th grader is a difference maker your team is not good . Unfortunately for L.I. There are a lot of 7th grade difference makers on the horizon. Personally I think we should stop squabbling about this team or that and try to get the Island strong as a whole. Unfortunately you people are to petty and small to put such meager differences like who is got what pinnie on to see the bigger problem
Cold Spring Harbor pretty much took any girl who tried out for varsity this year. Kind of interesting that they took so many new girls since they lost zero starters.
I have read that money is not offered by colleges until senior year of high school, if that's true how does a 10th grade verbal know how much will be offered?
They know how much but it is not final until they sign. Verbal agreements can be pulled,but colleges need to be careful that they don't get aa reputation of doing that.
Verbals don't get pulled even when coaches change but the change sometimes leads to players backing out which is what the new coach wants most of the time anyway. Keep the grades up and your daughter will be fine
Verbal scholarships do get pulled! Especially when there is a coaching change. But as a previous poster mentioned it gives the coach and the school a negative aura for future commits so they try to honor most of them. However....they do in fact get pulled sometimes. With the coaching carousel in college lax it makes early commitments very risky!!!!!
Other than Shanon Smith do you know of any other coaches who reneged on verbal commitments, if you do why not let us know . I had that concern when my daughter commited early but was confident in that the coach has been a fixture at the school and they involve the AD in the discussion.
As a whole, Long Island girls lacrosse seems to be headed into some lean years after 2015. The poster that said if a 7th grader is a difference maker your team is not good . Unfortunately for L.I. There are a lot of 7th grade difference makers on the horizon. Personally I think we should stop squabbling about this team or that and try to get the Island strong as a whole. Unfortunately you people are to petty and small to put such meager differences like who is got what pinnie on to see the bigger problem
Cold Spring Harbor pretty much took any girl who tried out for varsity this year. Kind of interesting that they took so many new girls since they lost zero starters.
A problem at of a lot of the schools my daughter knows kids on is there is 5-10 of really dedicated year round club players but then all the other girls that have played lacrosse when they are younger are quitting in High School. The girls who don't play travel seem to have given up on daily practices and then not getting enough playing time or passes of the ball. Teams were much better when they had great and good kids as opposed to now when they have great and weak kids.
[quote=Anonymous]I have read that money is not offered by colleges until senior year of high school, if that's true how does a 10th grade verbal know how much will be offered?
They know how much but it is not final until they sign. Verbal agreements can be pulled,but colleges need to be careful that they don't get aa reputation of doing that.
Verbals don't get pulled even when coaches change but the change sometimes leads to players backing out which is what the new coach wants most of the time anyway. Keep the grades up and your daughter will be fine
Verbal scholarships do get pulled! Especially when there is a coaching change. But as a previous poster mentioned it gives the coach and the school a negative aura for future commits so they try to honor most of them. However....they do in fact get pulled sometimes. With the coaching carousel in college lax it makes early commitments very risky!!!!!
Other than Shanon Smith do you know of any other coaches who reneged on verbal commitments, if you do why not let us know . I had that concern when my daughter commited early but was confident in that the coach has been a fixture at the school and they involve the AD in the discussion.
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Tell us about SS, please.
I do know a teammate of my daughter who committed to a school (can't remember which but somewhere more south) and the coach left. The new coach said she was making all verbals try out, not honoring whatever deals had been cut with the former coach. Our teammate left and went elsewhere, not sure how it shook out for the other commits. That's the only time I've heard of something like this happening.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have read that money is not offered by colleges until senior year of high school, if that's true how does a 10th grade verbal know how much will be offered?
They know how much but it is not final until they sign. Verbal agreements can be pulled,but colleges need to be careful that they don't get aa reputation of doing that.
Verbals don't get pulled even when coaches change but the change sometimes leads to players backing out which is what the new coach wants most of the time anyway. Keep the grades up and your daughter will be fine
Verbal scholarships do get pulled! Especially when there is a coaching change. But as a previous poster mentioned it gives the coach and the school a negative aura for future commits so they try to honor most of them. However....they do in fact get pulled sometimes. With the coaching carousel in college lax it makes early commitments very risky!!!!!
Other than Shanon Smith do you know of any other coaches who reneged on verbal commitments, if you do why not let us know . I had that concern when my daughter commited early but was confident in that the coach has been a fixture at the school and they involve the AD in the discussion.
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Tell us about SS, please.
I do know a teammate of my daughter who committed to a school (can't remember which but somewhere more south) and the coach left. The new coach said she was making all verbals try out, not honoring whatever deals had been cut with the former coach. Our teammate left and went elsewhere, not sure how it shook out for the other commits. That's the only time I've heard of something like this happening. [/quote
Disclaimer, as far as Shannon Smith , I do not have first hand knowledge of her reneging on the former coaches verbal commitments but have heard from several sources that she did. The story was told to me by a few people ,some of whom may have a motive to discredit her but the others had no obvious bias towards Shannon. Simply put the former coach had committed a certain percent scholarship to 2 girls Shannon did not feel were at that level ,she made them an offer she felt was more in line with their ability. One still went to Hofstra , one did not.
I have read that money is not offered by colleges until senior year of high school, if that's true how does a 10th grade verbal know how much will be offered?
They know how much but it is not final until they sign. Verbal agreements can be pulled,but colleges need to be careful that they don't get aa reputation of doing that.
Verbals don't get pulled even when coaches change but the change sometimes leads to players backing out which is what the new coach wants most of the time anyway. Keep the grades up and your daughter will be fine
Verbal scholarships do get pulled! Especially when there is a coaching change. But as a previous poster mentioned it gives the coach and the school a negative aura for future commits so they try to honor most of them. However....they do in fact get pulled sometimes. With the coaching carousel in college lax it makes early commitments very risky!!!!!
Other than Shanon Smith do you know of any other coaches who reneged on verbal commitments, if you do why not let us know . I had that concern when my daughter commited early but was confident in that the coach has been a fixture at the school and they involve the AD in the discussion.
Laura Campbell, former coach of CCSU offered and then pulled a scholarship from a friends daughter.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have read that money is not offered by colleges until senior year of high school, if that's true how does a 10th grade verbal know how much will be offered?
They know how much but it is not final until they sign. Verbal agreements can be pulled,but colleges need to be careful that they don't get aa reputation of doing that.
Verbals don't get pulled even when coaches change but the change sometimes leads to players backing out which is what the new coach wants most of the time anyway. Keep the grades up and your daughter will be fine
Verbal scholarships do get pulled! Especially when there is a coaching change. But as a previous poster mentioned it gives the coach and the school a negative aura for future commits so they try to honor most of them. However....they do in fact get pulled sometimes. With the coaching carousel in college lax it makes early commitments very risky!!!!!
Other than Shanon Smith do you know of any other coaches who reneged on verbal commitments, if you do why not let us know . I had that concern when my daughter commited early but was confident in that the coach has been a fixture at the school and they involve the AD in the discussion.
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Tell us about SS, please.
I do know a teammate of my daughter who committed to a school (can't remember which but somewhere more south) and the coach left. The new coach said she was making all verbals try out, not honoring whatever deals had been cut with the former coach. Our teammate left and went elsewhere, not sure how it shook out for the other commits. That's the only time I've heard of something like this happening. [/quote
Disclaimer, as far as Shannon Smith , I do not have first hand knowledge of her reneging on the former coaches verbal commitments but have heard from several sources that she did. The story was told to me by a few people ,some of whom may have a motive to discredit her but the others had no obvious bias towards Shannon. Simply put the former coach had committed a certain percent scholarship to 2 girls Shannon did not feel were at that level ,she made them an offer she felt was more in line with their ability. One still went to Hofstra , one did not.
If you do not have first hand knowledge then why mention it.
Also from what you said the Verbal commitments were honored the terms may have changed.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have read that money is not offered by colleges until senior year of high school, if that's true how does a 10th grade verbal know how much will be offered?
They know how much but it is not final until they sign. Verbal agreements can be pulled,but colleges need to be careful that they don't get aa reputation of doing that.
Verbals don't get pulled even when coaches change but the change sometimes leads to players backing out which is what the new coach wants most of the time anyway. Keep the grades up and your daughter will be fine
Verbal scholarships do get pulled! Especially when there is a coaching change. But as a previous poster mentioned it gives the coach and the school a negative aura for future commits so they try to honor most of them. However....they do in fact get pulled sometimes. With the coaching carousel in college lax it makes early commitments very risky!!!!!
Other than Shanon Smith do you know of any other coaches who reneged on verbal commitments, if you do why not let us know . I had that concern when my daughter commited early but was confident in that the coach has been a fixture at the school and they involve the AD in the discussion.
[/quote
Tell us about SS, please.
I do know a teammate of my daughter who committed to a school (can't remember which but somewhere more south) and the coach left. The new coach said she was making all verbals try out, not honoring whatever deals had been cut with the former coach. Our teammate left and went elsewhere, not sure how it shook out for the other commits. That's the only time I've heard of something like this happening. [/quote
Disclaimer, as far as Shannon Smith , I do not have first hand knowledge of her reneging on the former coaches verbal commitments but have heard from several sources that she did. The story was told to me by a few people ,some of whom may have a motive to discredit her but the others had no obvious bias towards Shannon. Simply put the former coach had committed a certain percent scholarship to 2 girls Shannon did not feel were at that level ,she made them an offer she felt was more in line with their ability. One still went to Hofstra , one did not.
If you do not have first hand knowledge then why mention it.
Also from what you said the Verbal commitments were honored the terms may have changed.
The only way to have first hand knowledge would be to be either Shannon or the parent of the kid, it was mentioned because that is what people are discussing. If a coach reneges on an earlier scholarship offer by offering less and you believe that is honoring the Verbal Commitment then you are obviously a Shannon Smith homer. Verbal commitments are made with terms attached , if you change the terms you are not honoring the original verbal commitment which is a dishonorable thing to do.
How did the CSH vs. St. A's scrimmage go? Any takeaways?
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all the goalies played great. CC was unstoppable first few minutes. it was well played
How did the CSH vs. St. A's scrimmage go? Any takeaways?
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If SA had any trouble with CSH they're in for a long season
Are the games going to be played tomorrow in the snow?
Who are the top 10 -15 teams in Suffolk County?
Who are the top 10 -15 teams in Suffolk County?
Here's nine off the top of my head, in no particular order....
Middle Country
West Islip
Smithtown East
Huntington
Eastport
Sayville
Bayport
Hauppauge
Mt. Sinai
Probably missing a few, please don't take offense, just couldn't think of them.
I guess St. A's is in for a difficult season then
whatever...heard it was 8-8...
CSH is a very solid team...
it was a scrimmage which is often as used to test out new players and give all the girls an opportunity to prove themselves. I wouldn't put too much stock in it. CSH isn't the weak team another poster claimed, but I don't think St. A's is as strong as some would like to think either.
How did the CSH vs. St. A's scrimmage go? Any takeaways?
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If SA had any trouble with CSH they're in for a long season
Doesn't Cold Spring Harbor have around 13 girls committed to play Division I? I would expect these teams to compete with each other.
I love how on these sites everyone likes to define and explain what a scrimmage is and what its for. yes. Thank you. Is it a game, no. But you can gauge a little about the teams and how they compete...
If SA had any trouble with CSH they're in for a long season [/quote]
Silly statement CSH is in the argument for #2 in Nassau behind Manhasset
If SA had any trouble with CSH they're in for a long season
Silly statement CSH is in the argument for #2 in Nassau behind Manhasset [/quote]
Manhasset is the lead in Nassau but the fight for number 2 should hopefully provide some exciting viewing a shot here or there a call or no call. Should be some great games.
yes, CSH, GC and Wantagh are All very good
W Babylon @ W I cancelled today and moved to tomorrow at 4.
Once they move back to respective conferences for playoffs, CSH should win the C's easily. Manhasset is the big favorite in the B's with GC and Wantagh fighting for 2nd....followed by North Shore and Long Beach..IMO
Once they move back to respective conferences for playoffs, CSH should win the C's easily. Manhasset is the big favorite in the B's with GC and Wantagh fighting for 2nd....followed by North Shore and Long Beach..IMO
HUGE falloff in B after the Manhasset, GC and Wantagh
I have to check the scores from last year but if I am correct Wantagh blew out North Shore last season 6-5!!!
This year you won't get a good look at North Shore for a few weeks due to the BBall season ending upstate yesterday. Those players need to get Lax practices before they can start the season. I see it as SET and then the rest of you. Go SET
I have to check the scores from last year but if I am correct Wantagh blew out North Shore last season 6-5!!!
This year you won't get a good look at North Shore for a few weeks due to the BBall season ending upstate yesterday. Those players need to get Lax practices before they can start the season. I see it as SET and then the rest of you. Go SET
I have to check the scores from last year but if I am correct Wantagh blew out North Shore last season 6-5!!!
This year you won't get a good look at North Shore for a few weeks due to the BBall season ending upstate yesterday. Those players need to get Lax practices before they can start the season. I see it as SET and then the rest of you. Go SET
The North shores, Long Beaches and Plainedgs are always the sacrificial lambs come playoff time to the Manhasset and Garden City
I have to check the scores from last year but if I am correct Wantagh blew out North Shore last season 6-5!!!
This year you won't get a good look at North Shore for a few weeks due to the BBall season ending upstate yesterday. Those players need to get Lax practices before they can start the season. I see it as SET and then the rest of you. Go SET
From a Wantagh Parent can not consider 6-5 a blow out in Girls lax imo any game within 3 goals is any teams game. NS last year ws a good game
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
I know of a few. Some were sought after by JV/varsity coaches and will get a good amount of playing time and will definitely contribute, don't know if they will be "difference makers" or not but certainly won't hurt the teams they are playing for. All the schools are smaller and not the "top" team. Then you have some players whose parents requested they be given the test and went to coach/AD. My guess is they made it to just make their annoying parents go away. Hope the parents of these kids realize this is not longer youth or club. There is no guarantee of playing time and certainly not equal playing time. Only time will tell if these kids will contribute to the game or to keeping the bench warm.
Who are the top 10 -15 teams in Suffolk County?
Here's nine off the top of my head, in no particular order....
Middle Country
West Islip
Smithtown East
Huntington
Eastport
Sayville
Bayport
Hauppauge
Mt. Sinai
Probably missing a few, please don't take offense, just couldn't think of them.
No offense taken. It was an honest question, I did not know who the strong teams are.
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
I know of a few. Some were sought after by JV/varsity coaches and will get a good amount of playing time and will definitely contribute, don't know if they will be "difference makers" or not but certainly won't hurt the teams they are playing for. All the schools are smaller and not the "top" team. Then you have some players whose parents requested they be given the test and went to coach/AD. My guess is they made it to just make their annoying parents go away. Hope the parents of these kids realize this is not longer youth or club. There is no guarantee of playing time and certainly not equal playing time. Only time will tell if these kids will contribute to the game or to keeping the bench warm.
I certainly see your point dismissing youth lacrosse, but certainly don't dismiss the club lacrosse if they are playing top team on top club. The 8th grade top club teams would crush many/most varsity teams.
I think North Shore was in B for the first time last season.
I think that they were Nassau County Champs for three years before in C over Cold Spring Harbor.
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
I know of a few. Some were sought after by JV/varsity coaches and will get a good amount of playing time and will definitely contribute, don't know if they will be "difference makers" or not but certainly won't hurt the teams they are playing for. All the schools are smaller and not the "top" team. Then you have some players whose parents requested they be given the test and went to coach/AD. My guess is they made it to just make their annoying parents go away. Hope the parents of these kids realize this is not longer youth or club. There is no guarantee of playing time and certainly not equal playing time. Only time will tell if these kids will contribute to the game or to keeping the bench warm.
I certainly see your point dismissing youth lacrosse, but certainly don't dismiss the club lacrosse if they are playing top team on top club. The 8th grade top club teams would crush many/most varsity teams.
Actually Wasn't dismissing club at all, most top teams are really good. Point was not everyone is "paying the same price" therefore on JV/varsity you're not guaranteed playing time!!
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
I know of a few. Some were sought after by JV/varsity coaches and will get a good amount of playing time and will definitely contribute, don't know if they will be "difference makers" or not but certainly won't hurt the teams they are playing for. All the schools are smaller and not the "top" team. Then you have some players whose parents requested they be given the test and went to coach/AD. My guess is they made it to just make their annoying parents go away. Hope the parents of these kids realize this is not longer youth or club. There is no guarantee of playing time and certainly not equal playing time. Only time will tell if these kids will contribute to the game or to keeping the bench warm.
I certainly see your point dismissing youth lacrosse, but certainly don't dismiss the club lacrosse if they are playing top team on top club. The 8th grade top club teams would crush many/most varsity teams.
I think you are off with your assessment on how well 8th graders at club level would do. Most 8th graders cannot physically compete at that level. Sorry but have girls that play at both age groups (8th and 12th grade) 8th grader is a top player on top club. Can't compare w varsity girls. Varsity play is too physical...
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
I know of a few. Some were sought after by JV/varsity coaches and will get a good amount of playing time and will definitely contribute, don't know if they will be "difference makers" or not but certainly won't hurt the teams they are playing for. All the schools are smaller and not the "top" team. Then you have some players whose parents requested they be given the test and went to coach/AD. My guess is they made it to just make their annoying parents go away. Hope the parents of these kids realize this is not longer youth or club. There is no guarantee of playing time and certainly not equal playing time. Only time will tell if these kids will contribute to the game or to keeping the bench warm.
I certainly see your point dismissing youth lacrosse, but certainly don't dismiss the club lacrosse if they are playing top team on top club. The 8th grade top club teams would crush many/most varsity teams.
I think you are off with your assessment on how well 8th graders at club level would do. Most 8th graders cannot physically compete at that level. Sorry but have girls that play at both age groups (8th and 12th grade) 8th grader is a top player on top club. Can't compare w varsity girls. Varsity play is too physical...
Way off? This isn't guess work, this is reality from winter leagues. The top clubs put the top teams (8th and 9th grade) in the varsity divisions against HS teams, and they are right in step. Half the girls on those travel teams will be the all county, all American, top recruits, etc.... HS gets s handful of the elite and has to fill in the cracks.
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
I know of a few. Some were sought after by JV/varsity coaches and will get a good amount of playing time and will definitely contribute, don't know if they will be "difference makers" or not but certainly won't hurt the teams they are playing for. All the schools are smaller and not the "top" team. Then you have some players whose parents requested they be given the test and went to coach/AD. My guess is they made it to just make their annoying parents go away. Hope the parents of these kids realize this is not longer youth or club. There is no guarantee of playing time and certainly not equal playing time. Only time will tell if these kids will contribute to the game or to keeping the bench warm.
I certainly see your point dismissing youth lacrosse, but certainly don't dismiss the club lacrosse if they are playing top team on top club. The 8th grade top club teams would crush many/most varsity teams.
I think you are off with your assessment on how well 8th graders at club level would do. Most 8th graders cannot physically compete at that level. Sorry but have girls that play at both age groups (8th and 12th grade) 8th grader is a top player on top club. Can't compare w varsity girls. Varsity play is too physical...
Way off? This isn't guess work, this is reality from winter leagues. The top clubs put the top teams (8th and 9th grade) in the varsity divisions against HS teams, and they are right in step. Half the girls on those travel teams will be the all county, all American, top recruits, etc.... HS gets s handful of the elite and has to fill in the cracks.
Indoor is not Varsity lacrosse. It's played on a smaller field. Not all the best teams, or best players play indoor in the winter. They play other HS sports.
You'll see the difference once they are outdoors. Good luck.
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
I know of a few. Some were sought after by JV/varsity coaches and will get a good amount of playing time and will definitely contribute, don't know if they will be "difference makers" or not but certainly won't hurt the teams they are playing for. All the schools are smaller and not the "top" team. Then you have some players whose parents requested they be given the test and went to coach/AD. My guess is they made it to just make their annoying parents go away. Hope the parents of these kids realize this is not longer youth or club. There is no guarantee of playing time and certainly not equal playing time. Only time will tell if these kids will contribute to the game or to keeping the bench warm.
I certainly see your point dismissing youth lacrosse, but certainly don't dismiss the club lacrosse if they are playing top team on top club. The 8th grade top club teams would crush many/most varsity teams.
I think you are off with your assessment on how well 8th graders at club level would do. Most 8th graders cannot physically compete at that level. Sorry but have girls that play at both age groups (8th and 12th grade) 8th grader is a top player on top club. Can't compare w varsity girls. Varsity play is too physical...
If your 8th grader can't compete with varsity players than she is not a top player on a top team.
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
I know of a few. Some were sought after by JV/varsity coaches and will get a good amount of playing time and will definitely contribute, don't know if they will be "difference makers" or not but certainly won't hurt the teams they are playing for. All the schools are smaller and not the "top" team. Then you have some players whose parents requested they be given the test and went to coach/AD. My guess is they made it to just make their annoying parents go away. Hope the parents of these kids realize this is not longer youth or club. There is no guarantee of playing time and certainly not equal playing time. Only time will tell if these kids will contribute to the game or to keeping the bench warm.
I certainly see your point dismissing youth lacrosse, but certainly don't dismiss the club lacrosse if they are playing top team on top club. The 8th grade top club teams would crush many/most varsity teams.
I think you are off with your assessment on how well 8th graders at club level would do. Most 8th graders cannot physically compete at that level. Sorry but have girls that play at both age groups (8th and 12th grade) 8th grader is a top player on top club. Can't compare w varsity girls. Varsity play is too physical...
If your 8th grader can't compete with varsity players than she is not a top player on a top team.
It is very simple, The best teams bring up and play the best players.
I would bet that if you were to look at all of the top teams on the Island you would find that they bring up and play "the best" players. Some will have 8th graders playing.
The best coaches will identify the best players. If a coach can't identify the best players the team will not be competitive with the best teams. They will win some games against weak teams but they will not compete with the best.
Athletics should help to teach our children many things. Teaching children that they are "entitled" to something is a lesson they should not learn.
The best players should be on the team and they should play.
Show me a team that cares more about a players seniority than their skill, athleticism and commitment and I will show you a team that is noncompetitive and dysfunctional.
Why bring a kid up to a team that is only playing 500 ball? What's the point? Not like the team is going to win states.
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
I know of a few. Some were sought after by JV/varsity coaches and will get a good amount of playing time and will definitely contribute, don't know if they will be "difference makers" or not but certainly won't hurt the teams they are playing for. All the schools are smaller and not the "top" team. Then you have some players whose parents requested they be given the test and went to coach/AD. My guess is they made it to just make their annoying parents go away. Hope the parents of these kids realize this is not longer youth or club. There is no guarantee of playing time and certainly not equal playing time. Only time will tell if these kids will contribute to the game or to keeping the bench warm.
I certainly see your point dismissing youth lacrosse, but certainly don't dismiss the club lacrosse if they are playing top team on top club. The 8th grade top club teams would crush many/most varsity teams.
I think you are off with your assessment on how well 8th graders at club level would do. Most 8th graders cannot physically compete at that level. Sorry but have girls that play at both age groups (8th and 12th grade) 8th grader is a top player on top club. Can't compare w varsity girls. Varsity play is too physical...
If your 8th grader can't compete with varsity players than she is not a top player on a top team.
I have been watching Varsity girls Lacrosse games for many years . I see many 8th graders playing on Varsity and rarely do they stand out on the stat sheet. They do stand out by being smaller and lighter than most of the players on the team they are playing. Often they are the ones getting blown off a ground ball by a junior or senior that is 50 lbs heavier than they are or dusting themselves off after getting knocked over on the re-defend.
now that tryouts are completed.....How many 7th & 8th graders made their town Varsity teams?
I know of a few. Some were sought after by JV/varsity coaches and will get a good amount of playing time and will definitely contribute, don't know if they will be "difference makers" or not but certainly won't hurt the teams they are playing for. All the schools are smaller and not the "top" team. Then you have some players whose parents requested they be given the test and went to coach/AD. My guess is they made it to just make their annoying parents go away. Hope the parents of these kids realize this is not longer youth or club. There is no guarantee of playing time and certainly not equal playing time. Only time will tell if these kids will contribute to the game or to keeping the bench warm.
I certainly see your point dismissing youth lacrosse, but certainly don't dismiss the club lacrosse if they are playing top team on top club. The 8th grade top club teams would crush many/most varsity teams.
I think you are off with your assessment on how well 8th graders at club level would do. Most 8th graders cannot physically compete at that level. Sorry but have girls that play at both age groups (8th and 12th grade) 8th grader is a top player on top club. Can't compare w varsity girls. Varsity play is too physical...
If your 8th grader can't compete with varsity players than she is not a top player on a top team.
I have been watching Varsity girls Lacrosse games for many years . I see many 8th graders playing on Varsity and rarely do they stand out on the stat sheet. They do stand out by being smaller and lighter than most of the players on the team they are playing. Often they are the ones getting blown off a ground ball by a junior or senior that is 50 lbs heavier than they are or dusting themselves off after getting knocked over on the re-defend.
Agree that some 8th graders that have been brought up do not belong, but others dominate. Who knows what some varsity coaches are thinking, but there is no denying that there are some girls that should, could and do play varsity level easily. Pick an average HS team and to play the 11th grade YJ blue team. Not a competitive game, playing the 10 th or 9th grade team the YJ teams still get the win. You are down to 8th grade before you would give the HS team the edge, and only a select few HS teams would I give the ed. So there you have it, top club, top team 8th grade girls playing on HS level.
Can someone list 5 or 10 of the top 2015 players on the island? it does not have to be "The Top 10" just 10 of the top players from the class of 2015.
Then tell us where they were playing in the 8th or 9th grade.
Dominate?? Please tell me more than 1 or 2 that will dominate this year on a winning team?
No one will name any individual players and their 8th grade status as per your request.
No one will name any individual players and their 8th grade status as per your request.
OK. How about this.
can someone who has an idea of who five or ten of the top 2015 players are please just tell us where the majority played when they were in the 8th and 9th grade.
3 played varsity in 8th grade.
2 played JV in 10th grade.
No names, I am just curious and I do not know the players or where they played.
Thanks.
There is a 2017 "Top" girl who recently committed but has yet to play varsity in our town and is a non impact club player. It all depends on what each coach sees or feels is a fit for their program. At least that's what they say..
There is a 2017 "Top" girl who recently committed but has yet to play varsity in our town and is a non impact club player. It all depends on what each coach sees or feels is a fit for their program. At least that's what they say..
Are you responding to the question above? What is your point?
If the girl does not play varsity and is not an impact player on her club why would you refer to her as a Top player?
What is your point?
True top high school teams ( G.C., 'set, W.M., F-dale Wantaugh) do not need to, nor do they bring up 8th graders (except the very rare occasion, then they are not "impact players).Only border line teams that need to fill gaps, and weak teams have 8th graders play up and become impact layers. Even then they are impacting only there team and not high school lacrosse in general. A stand out 8th grade impact player at W.F. or P.M. isn't even considered at a top high school mentioned above, and against those teams are exposed for the youth they are. As far as saying a 8th or 9th or 10th grade Y.J. team could compete with any of the above mentioned team is the cool-ade drunken ramblings of a fanatical mind.
True top high school teams ( G.C., 'set, W.M., F-dale Wantaugh) do not need to, nor do they bring up 8th graders (except the very rare occasion, then they are not "impact players).Only border line teams that need to fill gaps, and weak teams have 8th graders play up and become impact layers. Even then they are impacting only there team and not high school lacrosse in general. A stand out 8th grade impact player at W.F. or P.M. isn't even considered at a top high school mentioned above, and against those teams are exposed for the youth they are. As far as saying a 8th or 9th or 10th grade Y.J. team could compete with any of the above mentioned team is the cool-ade drunken ramblings of a fanatical mind.
That is the most ridiculous post I have seen in a long time.
True top high school teams ( G.C., 'set, W.M., F-dale Wantaugh) do not need to, nor do they bring up 8th graders (except the very rare occasion, then they are not "impact players).Only border line teams that need to fill gaps, and weak teams have 8th graders play up and become impact layers. Even then they are impacting only there team and not high school lacrosse in general. A stand out 8th grade impact player at W.F. or P.M. isn't even considered at a top high school mentioned above, and against those teams are exposed for the youth they are. As far as saying a 8th or 9th or 10th grade Y.J. team could compete with any of the above mentioned team is the cool-ade drunken ramblings of a fanatical mind.
That is the most ridiculous post I have seen in a long time.
I have nothing to do with the post above, but I could fill a page with more ridiculous posts than this one from just the past couple of days. Rather than resorting to hyperbole, can you articulate what makes this post so ridiculous. GC and Manhasset don't allow middle school girls to try out, so that's just a statement of fact. After that there are about 4 or 5 statements of opinion, none of which are outlandish. Not saying I agree with them or even followed this guy's ramblings, but to single out this post as the most ridiculous one you've seen in a long time is just lazy. If you have something to contribute to this silly argument, then please do.
True top high school teams ( G.C., 'set, W.M., F-dale Wantaugh) do not need to, nor do they bring up 8th graders (except the very rare occasion, then they are not "impact players).Only border line teams that need to fill gaps, and weak teams have 8th graders play up and become impact layers. Even then they are impacting only there team and not high school lacrosse in general. A stand out 8th grade impact player at W.F. or P.M. isn't even considered at a top high school mentioned above, and against those teams are exposed for the youth they are. As far as saying a 8th or 9th or 10th grade Y.J. team could compete with any of the above mentioned team is the cool-ade drunken ramblings of a fanatical mind.
That is the most ridiculous post I have seen in a long time.
I have nothing to do with the post above, but I could fill a page with more ridiculous posts than this one from just the past couple of days. Rather than resorting to hyperbole, can you articulate what makes this post so ridiculous. GC and Manhasset don't allow middle school girls to try out, so that's just a statement of fact. After that there are about 4 or 5 statements of opinion, none of which are outlandish. Not saying I agree with them or even followed this guy's ramblings, but to single out this post as the most ridiculous one you've seen in a long time is just lazy. If you have something to contribute to this silly argument, then please do.
Nope, nothing else to contribute other than it's ridiculous. Thanks!
Ward Melville does not allow 8th graders to try out. Coach hasn't brought up 9th graders in years.
Ward Melville does not allow 8th graders to try out. Coach hasn't brought up 9th graders in years.
So that's the perfect example. You don't bring up players every year, only every few years if player comes along that deserves it. That is the entire point of this discussion, consistently bringing up 8th graders every year you probably are getting girls playing over their heads at the varsity level. That is a far different situation than bringing up the standout player that comes along every few years if your lucky. And it is those girls who have no problem playing varsity. Not even all the girls on your clubs top team should be considered, honestly just the standout players, so we are talking small numbers here. A handful of the top girls from the top clubs your looking at maybe a dozen or so that fit the description. The problem here is parents who have kids playing travel feel they deserve it. Sorry but the 2nd3rd team YJ or white purple TG does not fit this description.
True top high school teams ( G.C., 'set, W.M., F-dale Wantaugh) do not need to, nor do they bring up 8th graders (except the very rare occasion, then they are not "impact players).Only border line teams that need to fill gaps, and weak teams have 8th graders play up and become impact layers. Even then they are impacting only there team and not high school lacrosse in general. A stand out 8th grade impact player at W.F. or P.M. isn't even considered at a top high school mentioned above, and against those teams are exposed for the youth they are. As far as saying a 8th or 9th or 10th grade Y.J. team could compete with any of the above mentioned team is the cool-ade drunken ramblings of a fanatical mind.
I am not an original poster, but wanted to give someone else's perspective. I agree that these younger kids cannot compete with the above mentioned top schools. But the original poster stated "many schools." They are not of the fanatical mind that you state as they never mentioned hanging with the top schools. My daughter is a junior on a Suffolk County middle of the road lacrosse high school. She would love to see some of the 7th and 8th graders get a chance. Although these girls may not match up physically, they blow away many on her team talent wise. Mainly because many of the older girls only pick up the stick from March to May. The point is, on many of these teams the younger girl doesn't have to be an "impact player", she just has to be better than the girls already out there. And they are. Some by leaps and bounds. But our district set limits on the number of girls eligible to be brought up because of parents with power who feel their daughter is "entitled" to be on the team because of their age and not because of their talent and/or athletism.
And if you truly don't think that the 2017 or 2018 blue teams cannot beat 75% of the High School Varsity teams on Long Island, YOU are of the fanatical mind.
all this could be a non issue if N.Y. had a 4 year varsity rule like other states
True top high school teams ( G.C., 'set, W.M., F-dale Wantaugh) do not need to, nor do they bring up 8th graders (except the very rare occasion, then they are not "impact players).Only border line teams that need to fill gaps, and weak teams have 8th graders play up and become impact layers. Even then they are impacting only there team and not high school lacrosse in general. A stand out 8th grade impact player at W.F. or P.M. isn't even considered at a top high school mentioned above, and against those teams are exposed for the youth they are. As far as saying a 8th or 9th or 10th grade Y.J. team could compete with any of the above mentioned team is the cool-ade drunken ramblings of a fanatical mind.
Are you talking boys or girls teams here?
Who or what are W.F. and P.M. ?
WM is not even close to Garden City, Manhasset, Farmingdale or Wantaugh.
Why would you even mention WM in the same sentence with the other schools unless you were talking about boys?
Ward Melville does not allow 8th graders to try out. Coach hasn't brought up 9th graders in years.
WM JV beat their V last year.
ok here we go. Most varsity teams that bring up a middles school player do so for one reason. They need to fill a roster. Districts with two or more feeder middle schools have plenty of bodies and don't need to pull up Small schools that are jr/sr combined have lower enrollment therefore they need younger girls to field a team. Schools like west bab pull up for almost every sport doesn't mean your kid is a superstar. schools like west islip or garden city are large and have plenty of grade appropriate athletes to play so girls will have to wait even if they are the best athlete in their grade or even more skilled than a 9th or 10th grader.
ok here we go. Most varsity teams that bring up a middles school player do so for one reason. They need to fill a roster. Districts with two or more feeder middle schools have plenty of bodies and don't need to pull up Small schools that are jr/sr combined have lower enrollment therefore they need younger girls to field a team. Schools like west bab pull up for almost every sport doesn't mean your kid is a superstar. schools like west islip or garden city are large and have plenty of grade appropriate athletes to play so girls will have to wait even if they are the best athlete in their grade or even more skilled than a 9th or 10th grader.
Look at what just happened at Huntington. They pulled a couple of 7/8 graders up to JV and several 9/10 graders quit so they had to go back to the 7/8 graders that didn't make it the first tryout and offer them spots on jv . It's gonna hurt their program operating like that.
You all sound ridiculous. There are some schools that are at or near the top on LI that bring kids up, there are some that don't. None of that proves whether moving a kid up helps the kids development or not. Will these kids who were moved up be the best players on Long Island this year, no, will they be the worst players on Long Island, no .Each situation is unique so the generalized statements are just silly. I have not seen any kid who was moved up to varsity at any program where I thought the kid was in way over their head, I am sure it happens but have not seen it.
ok here we go. Most varsity teams that bring up a middles school player do so for one reason. They need to fill a roster. Districts with two or more feeder middle schools have plenty of bodies and don't need to pull up Small schools that are jr/sr combined have lower enrollment therefore they need younger girls to field a team. Schools like west bab pull up for almost every sport doesn't mean your kid is a superstar. schools like west islip or garden city are large and have plenty of grade appropriate athletes to play so girls will have to wait even if they are the best athlete in their grade or even more skilled than a 9th or 10th grader.
Look at what just happened at Huntington. They pulled a couple of 7/8 graders up to JV and several 9/10 graders quit so they had to go back to the 7/8 graders that didn't make it the first tryout and offer them spots on jv . It's gonna hurt their program operating like that.
Or did the coach bring up more girls on varsity to make more room on JV for her 7th grade daughter and some of her 7th grade friends?
Ward Melville does not allow 8th graders to try out. Coach hasn't brought up 9th graders in years.
WM JV beat their V last year.
WM and BS have had some great battles the past few years. They were some of the top teams in Suffolk and in WB. Both had some pretty good JV teams. both will be contenders in the next two years because they move up players.
That is exactly what happened. They brought up girls with no opposite hand and an inability to catch and throw.
You mean the 7th graders or the ones they brought up to varsity?
Shouldn't things slow down with pulling younger players. At some point there will be teams comprised of all girls that were pulled up early from consecutive years. Unless these now established players (once considered special enough to be pulled up early) are displaced by younger players there is no longer going to be varsity roster space for young standouts. They will need to go through the usual process of jv then varsity or straight to varsity as freshmen not middle schoolers.
I would imagine pulling up girls early happens more with small schools than bigger schools. My daughters class B squad has 1 8th grader on the roster. She is a very good player who is on YJ top team. I want to see how much she plays since we do have enough talented seniors and juniors.
I would imagine pulling up girls early happens more with small schools than bigger schools. My daughters class B squad has 1 8th grader on the roster. She is a very good player who is on YJ top team. I want to see how much she plays since we do have enough talented seniors and juniors.
The size of the school does not matter. Coaches who want to compete put the best players on the field. Sometimes there is an 8th grader in the mix most of the time there is not. The top teams usually have 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th graders contributing. For the most part, the best players play.
If schools go by the state testing procedures for selection classification, you should see a large drop off in the coming years of kids being brought up. Lets say its obvious that some schools are cheating with the physical tests as is but next year with the new standards very few of the girls would be able to pass the test and it will be even more obvious. I find it interesting that so many schools obviously cheat at the testing yet no one says anything about that.
Where do you find this information?
What are the new selection classification standards? What are the changes to the 6 components?
What are the new selection classification standards? What are the changes to the 6 components?
I am not aware of any changes that took place during the lake placid meeting. Please detail what you were told and where it is written as fact that changes are on the horizon.
That said, the standard is antiquated and needs a 'rehauling.
What are the new selection classification standards? What are the changes to the 6 components?
I am not aware of any changes that took place during the lake placid meeting. Please detail what you were told and where it is written as fact that changes are on the horizon.
That said, the standard is antiquated and needs a 'rehauling.
It is being changed.
Physical Fitness Test:
The President’s Physical Fitness Test has been selected
as the test for this process (there is no longer sport
specific test components), and the student must meet
the 85th percentile level for their age in 4 out of 5 test
components. If the student does not meet 4 of 5, the
student cannot apply for a waiver.
What are the new selection classification standards? What are the changes to the 6 components?
I am not aware of any changes that took place during the lake placid meeting. Please detail what you were told and where it is written as fact that changes are on the horizon.
That said, the standard is antiquated and needs a 'rehauling.
It is being changed.
Physical Fitness Test:
The President’s Physical Fitness Test has been selected
as the test for this process (there is no longer sport
specific test components), and the student must meet
the 85th percentile level for their age in 4 out of 5 test
components. If the student does not meet 4 of 5, the
student cannot apply for a waiver.
what are the test requiremnts?
47 situps in 1 minute
10.1 Shuttle run
8in Sit and reach
7:59 mile
2 pull ups
20 push ups
It all sounds good.. but the test is only as good as the faculty person watching .. or in the case of our school not watching. Several 8th girls with ability, who wanted to play up took the test, other students counted reps, managed clock etc.. guess what? they all passed. its basically a farce and only in place to CYA of the school.
there are few 8th grade girls that can do 20 actual push ups or 2 pull ups for that matter. The schools that obviously have cheated in the past will continue to do so. Hopefully this does not offend anyone but when you see a kid who is 20 or more pounds overweight there is no way they are passing these tests but because mommy or daddy have a connection or they can pass and throw they are moved up.I like what someone earlier proposed a central testing location where those that are going to be selectively classified go to get tested.
But if Mom is the Varsity Coach in Huntington you get to go JV with your friends.
Really?? I'm moving to Huntington
47 situps in 1 minute
10.1 Shuttle run
8in Sit and reach
7:59 mile
2 pull ups
20 push ups
Good thing that they did not use these standards to evaluate the seniors in our town. Not sure if any seniors would have made the team if the coaches considered fitness and athleticism a priority.
[quote=Anonymous]But if Mom is the Varsity Coach in Huntington you get to go JV with your friends.
And play YJ Blue due to your moms connection to CR
Really?? I'm moving to Huntington
Yeah but then you have to be friends with her.
47 situps in 1 minute
10.1 Shuttle run
8in Sit and reach
7:59 mile
2 pull ups
20 push ups
So now all of the current 7th graders playing up this year will have to classify again next year under the new rule as 8th graders.
Looks like WI fell back to earth graduating out.
Looks like WI fell back to earth graduating out.
They will get better. They lost some quality girls. Still have some athletes and good coaching.
Looks like WI fell back to earth graduating out.
They will get better. They lost some quality girls. Still have some athletes and good coaching.
WI freshman at NU kicking butt, congrats to her.
Ward Melville does not allow 8th graders to try out. Coach hasn't brought up 9th graders in years.
Yes, it is funny that I have heard that same exact quote from many of the current WM parents over and over. I'm sure to let everyone know why that group of girls are not playing varsity like most of their travel teammates. Also someone had to throw WM varsity under the bus saying JV beat them. Glad I'm not involved in that mess over there.
Who are the top teams in Division 1? will anyone beat West Islip?
Ward Melville does not allow 8th graders to try out. Coach hasn't brought up 9th graders in years.
Yes, it is funny that I have heard that same exact quote from many of the current WM parents over and over. I'm sure to let everyone know why that group of girls are not playing varsity like most of their travel teammates. Also someone had to throw WM varsity under the bus saying JV beat them. Glad I'm not involved in that mess over there.
Not throwing them under the bus . That JV team was unbeatable last year and was loaded. If those kids all move up to Varsity I would say they are the team to beat.
Who are the top teams in Division 1? will anyone beat West Islip?
Didn't Hauppauge just beat West Islip the other day?
Who are the top teams in Division 1? will anyone beat West Islip?
Didn't Hauppauge just beat West Islip the other day?
Hauppauge is in D 2 now
yes Haup beat WI a couple of days ago and the bad news for my daughters team is that Haup is now in class B, along with EI and WB
Who are the top teams in Division 1? will anyone beat West Islip?
Didn't Hauppauge just beat West Islip the other day?
Hauppauge is in D 2 now
Good news for D-1
Who are the top teams in Division 1? will anyone beat West Islip?
Didn't Hauppauge just beat West Islip the other day?
Hauppauge is in D 2 now
Good news for D-1
West Islip lost to D2, Farmingdale lost to D2. D2 is the power division.
Little Westhampton Beach just beat East Islip today... Welcome to D2 ladies...
lets start the awards, best sportsmanship goes to kings park. Worst sportsmanship goes to Huntington, that coach sounds like a horror story, in the blowout, let me guess you are already watching the scoring leaders.
Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.
yes Haup beat WI a couple of days ago and the bad news for my daughters team is that Haup is now in class B, along with EI and WB
Not sure about Hauppauge but East Islip and Wesr Babylon are terrible this year. Both teams have a couple of superstars but not much else. And to be fair, West Islip is not the team they were last year. Verdict still out on Hauppauge.
Little Westhampton Beach just beat East Islip today... Welcome to D2 ladies...
East Islip is terrible!
lets start the awards, best sportsmanship goes to kings park. Worst sportsmanship goes to Huntington, that coach sounds like a horror story, in the blowout, let me guess you are already watching the scoring leaders.
Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.
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WI played a very bad game and is still gonna be in the runnings trust me
lets start the awards, best sportsmanship goes to kings park. Worst sportsmanship goes to Huntington, that coach sounds like a horror story, in the blowout, let me guess you are already watching the scoring leaders.
Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.
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Are you kidding me. You did single out a player...I deleted it.
If you can prove your allegations then do something other than complaining on BOTC. Also if you think challenging me is the way to get something accomplished your dead wrong.
what happen to the puage against sayville
Can anyone touch Mt Sinai? How will Northport be?
lets start the awards, best sportsmanship goes to kings park. Worst sportsmanship goes to Huntington, that coach sounds like a horror story, in the blowout, let me guess you are already watching the scoring leaders.
Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.
Don't know what the Hop edited (obviously) but me thinks the post sounds like Islip sour grapes? The funny thing (without being at the game) is that it looks like Huntington called the dogs off in the 2nd half only scoring 2 goals. If it is Islip sour grapes, take a look at last years results...Islip put up over 20 goals three times last year and they scored 19 twice with the O sisters padding their stats tremendously in those games. You also can't compare Islip and HB...HB is a new program and Islip was in the playoffs last year. Take your lose and move on...you are not the only playoff team from last year that took a beating today..take a look at the ESM game!
WI played a very bad game and is still gonna be in the runnings trust me
They barely beat West Bab who is terrible. WI ain't that good this year either...cool ur jets!
[quote=Anonymous]Can anyone touch Mt Sinai? How will Northport be?[/quote
Northport worse than last year. Should squeak into playoffs.
Mt. Sinai v BBP for counties.
WI played a very bad game and is still gonna be in the runnings trust me
Someone woke up the Excuse Fairy from West Islip! Jeesh.
They beat west bab by 4 goals. Should be a decent season. Listen last year was an undefeated season. Difficult to keep that up. See what the next 2 months bring. It's the first week of the season. Cool your own jets bud
Player reference edited.
They beat west bab by 4 goals. Should be a decent season. Listen last year was an undefeated season. Difficult to keep that up. See what the next 2 months bring. It's the first week of the season. Cool your own jets bud
Welcome back Mr. E. Fairy...
They beat west bab by 4 goals. Should be a decent season. Listen last year was an undefeated season. Difficult to keep that up. See what the next 2 months bring. It's the first week of the season. Cool your own jets bud
Didn't they lose their last game last season?
Actually I didn't write that one lol. Either way see you in the playoffs. If you make it lmao
lets start
Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.
Don't know what the Hop edited (obviously) but me thinks the post sounds like Islip sour grapes? The funny thing (without being at the game) is that it looks like Huntington called the dogs off in the 2nd half only scoring 2 goals. If it is Islip sour grapes, take a look at last years results...Islip put up over 20 goals three times last year and they scored 19 twice with the O sisters padding their stats tremendously in those games. You also can't compare Islip and HB...HB is a new program and Islip was in the playoffs last year. Take your lose and move on...you are not the only playoff team from last year that took a beating today..take a look at the ESM game!
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Can anyone touch Mt Sinai? How will Northport be?
Lets see, Bayport beat them last year. Bayport is likely stronger this year and Mt. Sinai is weaker from the graduating stand point. Do you not remember how last year ended?
Can anyone touch Mt Sinai? How will Northport be?
Lets see, Bayport beat them last year. Bayport is likely stronger this year and Mt. Sinai is weaker from the graduating stand point. Do you not remember how last year ended?
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lets start the awards, best sportsmanship goes to kings park. Worst sportsmanship goes to Huntington, that coach sounds like a horror story, in the blowout, let me guess you are already watching the scoring leaders.
Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.
Don't know what the Hop edited (obviously) but me thinks the post sounds like Islip sour grapes? The funny thing (without being at the game) is that it looks like Huntington called the dogs off in the 2nd half only scoring 2 goals. If it is Islip sour grapes, take a look at last years results...Islip put up over 20 goals three times last year and they scored 19 twice with the O sisters padding their stats tremendously in those games. You also can't compare Islip and HB...HB is a new program and Islip was in the playoffs last year. Take your lose and move on...you are not the only playoff team from last year that took a beating today..take a look at the ESM game!
Now I see Hop posters only can single out kids you want to be singled out , even using their initials,ridiculous.
I am warning you right now!!! Knock it off or you will find yourself unable to come in here at all. I am not amused by your nonsense! I trust that I have made myself clear on this subject.
lets start the awards, best sportsmanship goes to kings park. Worst sportsmanship goes to Huntington, that coach sounds like a horror story, in the blowout, let me guess you are already watching the scoring leaders.
Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.
Don't know what the Hop edited (obviously) but me thinks the post sounds like Islip sour grapes? The funny thing (without being at the game) is that it looks like Huntington called the dogs off in the 2nd half only scoring 2 goals. If it is Islip sour grapes, take a look at last years results...Islip put up over 20 goals three times last year and they scored 19 twice with the O sisters padding their stats tremendously in those games. You also can't compare Islip and HB...HB is a new program and Islip was in the playoffs last year. Take your lose and move on...you are not the only playoff team from last year that took a beating today..take a look at the ESM game!
Now I see Hop posters only can single out kids you want to be singled out , even using their initials,ridiculous.
I am warning you right now!!! Knock it off or you will find yourself unable to come in here at all. I am not amused by your nonsense! I trust that I have made myself clear on this subject.
Crystal
Anyone elses notice the Ref’s are really calling games tight in regard to defense.. I’ve watched 2 games so far this season and every contact a defender makes with their stick ( even if its straight up) is called a push/cross check and every stick check is called either a slash or across the body.. it almost impossible to play defense
Anyone elses notice the Ref’s are really calling games tight in regard to defense.. I’ve watched 2 games so far this season and every contact a defender makes with their stick ( even if its straight up) is called a push/cross check and every stick check is called either a slash or across the body.. it almost impossible to play defense
Easier for the Officials to start the season strictly enforcing the rules then ease up. Can't let it get out of control and have a serious injury. It'll loosen up before playoffs.
I’m certainly not advocating out of control play, but a let the kids play a little defense .... time and time again I watched a team work the ball around a few times and make 1 attempt at a dodge and the defense get called for either pushing or cross check and the offense getting a free possession…
This was two separate officiating crews btw.. certainly head scratching,
Agree. Too many times the offensive player runs herself into a double/triple team and the officials reward the bad offensive play by calling a foul. I think if you swing stick as a defender you are usually wrong and playing poor defense. But many defenders play good solid defense by moving thier feet and getting good position and refs continue to call fouls on the defense and bail out poor offensive decisions.
Agree. Too many times the offensive player runs herself into a double/triple team and the officials reward the bad offensive play by calling a foul. I think if you swing stick as a defender you are usually wrong and playing poor defense. But many defenders play good solid defense by moving thier feet and getting good position and refs continue to call fouls on the defense and bail out poor offensive decisions.
The worst is the lack of a charge call. How many players lower their shoulder and plow through a double triple team and the ref hangs the flag out because it looks like the defender is pushing.
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
Anyone elses notice the Ref’s are really calling games tight in regard to defense.. I’ve watched 2 games so far this season and every contact a defender makes with their stick ( even if its straight up) is called a push/cross check and every stick check is called either a slash or across the body.. it almost impossible to play defense
are you looking for the "grey" in the rule not the black and white.
reaching across is a foul, and I didnt think they could make any (Body) contact with their stick 9/10 times it is a push that never gets called?
Agree. Too many times the offensive player runs herself into a double/triple team and the officials reward the bad offensive play by calling a foul. I think if you swing stick as a defender you are usually wrong and playing poor defense. But many defenders play good solid defense by moving thier feet and getting good position and refs continue to call fouls on the defense and bail out poor offensive decisions.
The worst is the lack of a charge call. How many players lower their shoulder and plow through a double triple team and the ref hangs the flag out because it looks like the defender is pushing.
Worse than that is when a player can't plow through a double or triple team and shoots over the defender(s) heads. Blatant offensive foul. My daughter is not a defender but it still bugs the crap out of me that the refs are so tilted towards offense.
You will see if the Huntington teams did the right thing after the first couple of games. Same thing happens in all schools.. try living in Northport....
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP
You will see if the Huntington teams did the right thing after the first couple of games. Same thing happens in all schools.. try living in Northport....
Can't imagine living and dealing w this in Northport - coaches should not be allowed to affiliate w travel teams
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
ESM graduated 75% of there defense last year - definitely a weakness for opposing teams to exploit
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP
They will be fine. Phenomenal goalie, exceptionally quick offense and quality coaching. Should be in County finals again.
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP
They will be fine. Phenomenal goalie, exceptionally quick offense and quality coaching. Should be in County finals again.
Why is it that everyone wants to slam teams like ESM and Mt Sinai. They are good year in and out for a reason.
ESM looked good out of the box against a Miller Place team that has talent but terrible coaching.
Its always who you know mixed in with what you know. Huntington has a deep varsity team. why did they bring in 7th graders?
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP
They will be fine. Phenomenal goalie, exceptionally quick offense and quality coaching. Should be in County finals again.
Why is it that everyone wants to slam teams like ESM and Mt Sinai. They are good year in and out for a reason.
ESM looked good out of the box against a Miller Place team that has talent but terrible coaching.
Mt. Sinai is a very very good team! Strong all around.
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP
They will be fine. Phenomenal goalie, exceptionally quick offense and quality coaching. Should be in County finals again.
Why is it that everyone wants to slam teams like ESM and Mt Sinai. They are good year in and out for a reason.
ESM looked good out of the box against a Miller Place team that has talent but terrible coaching.
Miller
Place has a decent goalie-after that it stops. A few heavy defenders that can't move and a draw kid that is lanky but not so coordinated. Would not bet he house on that team
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
ESM - also a YJ coach. See a pattern here? Pay for play?
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
ESM - also a YJ coach. See a pattern here? Pay for play?
Power corrupts...Absolute power corrupts absolutely.... Beware YJ nation
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP
There are no 8th graders on ESM varsity
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP
There are no 8th graders on ESM varsity
You are so wrong, check the roster
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP
There are no 8th graders on ESM varsity
You are so wrong, check the roster
I stand corrected but those 8th graders were on the team as 7th graders so no new 8th graders came up. I misinterpreted the previous post regarding 10th graders being cut. Everyone who tried out was given a spot on a team whether varsity or JV. Bayport and Sayville will be tough for ESM with or without those 8th graders. In fact, the whole B and C classes are tough this year. There are no easy games.
The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.
The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.
Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.
Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP
There are no 8th graders on ESM varsity
You are so wrong, check the roster
I stand corrected but those 8th graders were on the team as 7th graders so no new 8th graders came up. I misinterpreted the previous post regarding 10th graders being cut. Everyone who tried out was given a spot on a team whether varsity or JV. Bayport and Sayville will be tough for ESM with or without those 8th graders. In fact, the whole B and C classes are tough this year. There are no easy games.
not all were brought up last year - some moaning and groaning by parent made some of that happen
squeaky wheel
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.
OK Mom
The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.
Opinions are great, everyone can have them but it doesn't make it true!!
The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.
Thanks Jen and Cathy!
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
One has to wonder how many of these LI 7th graders actually deserve to
play up on JV / Varsity. I think most of these kids parents are delusional.
One has to wonder how many of these LI 7th graders actually deserve to
play up on JV / Varsity. I think most of these kids parents are delusional.
JV I think yes - if you have a talented player who plays all year round middle school can be very unchallenging
Varsity is another matter -7th grade girls are usually not big enough to go against a junior senior girl and can get hurt - there are exceptions of course and what i have seen is the 7th grader playing only offense as a midfielder
the problem is coaches and clubs and parents are pushing to put 5-6 year varsity starter on the resume
are parents delusional? of course they are!
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
Or sometimes they just find other interests. Many times it's the parents that seem to have the bigger issues and they project their own opinions on to their children. I know there are situations where kids seem to get a raw deal, but to say that many quit because of politics and disgust I think is a bit of an exaggeration. High school has so much to offer besides lacrosse. Some of my children's peers have left lacrosse for theatre, track, softball. Just because we as parents put a stick in their hand when they were kids doesn't mean they're going to stick with it. Missing family weddings, christenings, proms for lax games or a tryout is a whole other issue but I digress...
Ms is smaller than esm so with a smaller pool to draw from that handful of girls you speak of is all there is
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
Or sometimes they just find other interests. Many times it's the parents that seem to have the bigger issues and they project their own opinions on to their children. I know there are situations where kids seem to get a raw deal, but to say that many quit because of politics and disgust I think is a bit of an exaggeration. High school has so much to offer besides lacrosse. Some of my children's peers have left lacrosse for theatre, track, softball. Just because we as parents put a stick in their hand when they were kids doesn't mean they're going to stick with it. Missing family weddings, christenings, proms for lax games or a tryout is a whole other issue but I digress...
You are absolutely right - girls find other interests
And don't want to commit all there time - weekends
Summers - all year round to lax- but once they stop
That and just play in spring they will never see
Playing time on varsity - those
Spots go to the girls who play all year round are committed
To a college - I guess that is what I
Meant by disgust and politics -
Varsity lax is not for the seasonal player
Anymore and that kind of stinks
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
ESM may be a small school but they have multiple teams in each age group in SCGL and other leagues. Think about that, some age groups have 30-40 or more kids playing. Now add the fact that by the time they get to HS they are drawing players from 7-12th grade. Maybe 5 or 6 players from each age group will be playing through varsity. Reduction of 30-40 kids to 5-6 leaves a bitter nasty pill to swallow. That's what we are seeing here on these threads. Cut throat environment, don't envy ESM.
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
ESM may be a small school but they have multiple teams in each age group in SCGL and other leagues. Think about that, some age groups have 30-40 or more kids playing. Now add the fact that by the time they get to HS they are drawing players from 7-12th grade. Maybe 5 or 6 players from each age group will be playing through varsity. Reduction of 30-40 kids to 5-6 leaves a bitter nasty pill to swallow. That's what we are seeing here on these threads. Cut throat environment, don't envy ESM.
Esm is not a small school. There are 936 kids in grades 9-11 alone. If AD would do his job there would be no issues.
lets start the awards, best sportsmanship goes to kings park. Worst sportsmanship goes to Huntington, that coach sounds like a horror story, in the blowout, let me guess you are already watching the scoring leaders.
Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.
Don't know what the Hop edited (obviously) but me thinks the post sounds like Islip sour grapes? The funny thing (without being at the game) is that it looks like Huntington called the dogs off in the 2nd half only scoring 2 goals. If it is Islip sour grapes, take a look at last years results...Islip put up over 20 goals three times last year and they scored 19 twice with the O sisters padding their stats tremendously in those games. You also can't compare Islip and HB...HB is a new program and Islip was in the playoffs last year. Take your lose and move on...you are not the only playoff team from last year that took a beating today..take a look at the ESM game!
What does the Kings Park team get for winning the sportsmanship award? They get the EI girl scoring 9 goals agaist them today.
Oh and as for Islip, the girls whose initials we can't disclose had 7 goals AND 5,count em, 5 assists as they put up 18 vs a weaker program. Goals are goals, but 5 assists...sounds like padding the scoresheet!
Sounds like someone is having a "hissy fit"
The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.
Thanks Jen and Cathy!
It is spelled K.A.T.H.Y ....loser....you are just sour grapes spewing your hate from the perch of your computer.... get over it and move on.
The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.
Thanks Jen and Cathy!
It is spelled K.A.T.H.Y ....loser....you are just sour grapes spewing your hate from the perch of your computer.... get over it and move on.
K.A.T.H.YJ
Can anyone touch Mt Sinai? How will Northport be?
Lets see, Bayport beat them last year. Bayport is likely stronger this year and Mt. Sinai is weaker from the graduating stand point. Do you not remember how last year ended?
Could not agree more , how is it a team that looses its goalie and its best offensive player is favored over a team that beat them last time they played and has gotten better. BBP by 5.
Final score today was Mt Sinai 14 BBP 7...so much for BBP by 5!
In another big game, ESM beat Hauppauge 10-8
Both of these games could be playoff games in May.
lets start the awards, best sportsmanship goes to kings park. Worst sportsmanship goes to Huntington, that coach sounds like a horror story, in the blowout, let me guess you are already watching the scoring leaders.
Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.
Don't know what the Hop edited (obviously) but me thinks the post sounds like Islip sour grapes? The funny thing (without being at the game) is that it looks like Huntington called the dogs off in the 2nd half only scoring 2 goals. If it is Islip sour grapes, take a look at last years results...Islip put up over 20 goals three times last year and they scored 19 twice with the O sisters padding their stats tremendously in those games. You also can't compare Islip and HB...HB is a new program and Islip was in the playoffs last year. Take your lose and move on...you are not the only playoff team from last year that took a beating today..take a look at the ESM game!
What does the Kings Park team get for winning the sportsmanship award? They get the EI girl scoring 9 goals agaist them today.
Oh and as for Islip, the girls whose initials we can't disclose had 7 goals AND 5,count em, 5 assists as they put up 18 vs a weaker program. Goals are goals, but 5 assists...sounds like padding the scoresheet!
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Learn the roster. Freshman scored.
lets start the awards, best sportsmanship goes to kings park. Worst sportsmanship goes to Huntington, that coach sounds like a horror story, in the blowout, let me guess you are already watching the scoring leaders.
Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.
Don't know what the Hop edited (obviously) but me thinks the post sounds like Islip sour grapes? The funny thing (without being at the game) is that it looks like Huntington called the dogs off in the 2nd half only scoring 2 goals. If it is Islip sour grapes, take a look at last years results...Islip put up over 20 goals three times last year and they scored 19 twice with the O sisters padding their stats tremendously in those games. You also can't compare Islip and HB...HB is a new program and Islip was in the playoffs last year. Take your lose and move on...you are not the only playoff team from last year that took a beating today..take a look at the ESM game!
What does the Kings Park team get for winning the sportsmanship award? They get the EI girl scoring 9 goals agaist them today.
Oh and as for Islip, the girls whose initials we can't disclose had 7 goals AND 5,count em, 5 assists as they put up 18 vs a weaker program. Goals are goals, but 5 assists...sounds like padding the scoresheet!
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Sounds like sour grapes ! Watch college games, that's reality. These girls will be tnere soon enough sometimes on one end sometimes the other.
lets start the awards, best sportsmanship goes to kings park. Worst sportsmanship goes to Huntington, that coach sounds like a horror story, in the blowout, let me guess you are already watching the scoring leaders.
Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.
Don't know what the Hop edited (obviously) but me thinks the post sounds like Islip sour grapes? The funny thing (without being at the game) is that it looks like Huntington called the dogs off in the 2nd half only scoring 2 goals. If it is Islip sour grapes, take a look at last years results...Islip put up over 20 goals three times last year and they scored 19 twice with the O sisters padding their stats tremendously in those games. You also can't compare Islip and HB...HB is a new program and Islip was in the playoffs last year. Take your lose and move on...you are not the only playoff team from last year that took a beating today..take a look at the ESM game!
What does the Kings Park team get for winning the sportsmanship award? They get the EI girl scoring 9 goals agaist them today.
Oh and as for Islip, the girls whose initials we can't disclose had 7 goals AND 5,count em, 5 assists as they put up 18 vs a weaker program. Goals are goals, but 5 assists...sounds like padding the scoresheet!
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Sounds like sour grapes ! Watch college games, that's reality. These girls will be tnere soon enough sometimes on one end sometimes the other.
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
Or sometimes they just find other interests. Many times it's the parents that seem to have the bigger issues and they project their own opinions on to their children. I know there are situations where kids seem to get a raw deal, but to say that many quit because of politics and disgust I think is a bit of an exaggeration. High school has so much to offer besides lacrosse. Some of my children's peers have left lacrosse for theatre, track, softball. Just because we as parents put a stick in their hand when they were kids doesn't mean they're going to stick with it. Missing family weddings, christenings, proms for lax games or a tryout is a whole other issue but I digress...
You are absolutely right - girls find other interests
And don't want to commit all there time - weekends
Summers - all year round to lax- but once they stop
That and just play in spring they will never see
Playing time on varsity - those
Spots go to the girls who play all year round are committed
To a college - I guess that is what I
Meant by disgust and politics -
Varsity lax is not for the seasonal player
Anymore and that kind of stinks
What has happened to dedication, commitment, work ethic and sacrifice?
How about athleticism, skill and an understanding of the game?
When did athletics at the varsity level become a right?
When did it become acceptable to instal a class system?
Why do some believe that younger players must wait their turn?
Why do some believe that 11th and 12th graders should be given priority treatment based on their grade?
At the very least a coach should be honest with their players. Players should have to compete everyday and they should know where they stand based upon their performance not on their grade/class.
The best coaches identify the best players.
The best teams play the best players.
The best experience for the girls will come when a coach is honest. The girls will respect their coach as well as their teammates when the coach puts politics aside and lets the girls compete for their position.
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
Or sometimes they just find other interests. Many times it's the parents that seem to have the bigger issues and they project their own opinions on to their children. I know there are situations where kids seem to get a raw deal, but to say that many quit because of politics and disgust I think is a bit of an exaggeration. High school has so much to offer besides lacrosse. Some of my children's peers have left lacrosse for theatre, track, softball. Just because we as parents put a stick in their hand when they were kids doesn't mean they're going to stick with it. Missing family weddings, christenings, proms for lax games or a tryout is a whole other issue but I digress...
You are absolutely right - girls find other interests
And don't want to commit all there time - weekends
Summers - all year round to lax- but once they stop
That and just play in spring they will never see
Playing time on varsity - those
Spots go to the girls who play all year round are committed
To a college - I guess that is what I
Meant by disgust and politics -
Varsity lax is not for the seasonal player
Anymore and that kind of stinks
What has happened to dedication, commitment, work ethic and sacrifice?
How about athleticism, skill and an understanding of the game?
When did athletics at the varsity level become a right?
When did it become acceptable to instal a class system?
Why do some believe that younger players must wait their turn?
Why do some believe that 11th and 12th graders should be given priority treatment based on their grade?
At the very least a coach should be honest with their players. Players should have to compete everyday and they should know where they stand based upon their performance not on their grade/class.
The best coaches identify the best players.
The best teams play the best players.
The best experience for the girls will come when a coach is honest. The girls will respect their coach as well as their teammates when the coach puts politics aside and lets the girls compete for their position.
This poster is either horribly misguided or naive, Coaches will play who they are pressured to play. Ability and work ethic have nothing to do with it. There is a player right now that is a senior D1 commit, that started for, and at one time was time the position player for a very good club team. she was never cut from any team, and has more than once beaten out other, more highly touted players for a starting slot, and has lead a team to a championship game. She is sitting on the bench unable to get in because an administrator within the district has a vendetta against her an her family. Instead they play an uncommitted 11th grader, with little or no varsity experience, and use the excuse that she is a transfer from another school. The statement that coaches will play the better girls is just a lie. That or this is the worst coach on Long Island
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
Or sometimes they just find other interests. Many times it's the parents that seem to have the bigger issues and they project their own opinions on to their children. I know there are situations where kids seem to get a raw deal, but to say that many quit because of politics and disgust I think is a bit of an exaggeration. High school has so much to offer besides lacrosse. Some of my children's peers have left lacrosse for theatre, track, softball. Just because we as parents put a stick in their hand when they were kids doesn't mean they're going to stick with it. Missing family weddings, christenings, proms for lax games or a tryout is a whole other issue but I digress...
You are absolutely right - girls find other interests
And don't want to commit all there time - weekends
Summers - all year round to lax- but once they stop
That and just play in spring they will never see
Playing time on varsity - those
Spots go to the girls who play all year round are committed
To a college - I guess that is what I
Meant by disgust and politics -
Varsity lax is not for the seasonal player
Anymore and that kind of stinks
What has happened to dedication, commitment, work ethic and sacrifice?
How about athleticism, skill and an understanding of the game?
When did athletics at the varsity level become a right?
When did it become acceptable to instal a class system?
Why do some believe that younger players must wait their turn?
Why do some believe that 11th and 12th graders should be given priority treatment based on their grade?
At the very least a coach should be honest with their players. Players should have to compete everyday and they should know where they stand based upon their performance not on their grade/class.
The best coaches identify the best players.
The best teams play the best players.
The best experience for the girls will come when a coach is honest. The girls will respect their coach as well as their teammates when the coach puts politics aside and lets the girls compete for their position.
This poster is either horribly misguided or naive, Coaches will play who they are pressured to play. Ability and work ethic have nothing to do with it. There is a player right now that is a senior D1 commit, that started for, and at one time was time the position player for a very good club team. she was never cut from any team, and has more than once beaten out other, more highly touted players for a starting slot, and has lead a team to a championship game. She is sitting on the bench unable to get in because an administrator within the district has a vendetta against her an her family. Instead they play an uncommitted 11th grader, with little or no varsity experience, and use the excuse that she is a transfer from another school. The statement that coaches will play the better girls is just a lie. That or this is the worst coach on Long Island
GC?
The travel kids often don't pass or include girls that don't play club so that's why in many towns HS teams are begging girls to come back and play. Everybody wants their name in the paper and selfish play drives the fringe players away from the sport. When you are winning by 8, 9, 10 or more how about moving the ball around? Do we really need to see girls with 15 points in a blowout game?
The travel kids often don't pass or include girls that don't play club so that's why in many towns HS teams are begging girls to come back and play. Everybody wants their name in the paper and selfish play drives the fringe players away from the sport. When you are winning by 8, 9, 10 or more how about moving the ball around? Do we really need to see girls with 15 points in a blowout game?
Much more prominent in Suffolk than Nassau - at least at best programs. In Nassau they have power conference regardless of size of school for regular season. Fewer blowouts. Suffolk is ridiculous with the scoring and blowouts. They should try and fix this or at least have some more sportsmanship.
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
Or sometimes they just find other interests. Many times it's the parents that seem to have the bigger issues and they project their own opinions on to their children. I know there are situations where kids seem to get a raw deal, but to say that many quit because of politics and disgust I think is a bit of an exaggeration. High school has so much to offer besides lacrosse. Some of my children's peers have left lacrosse for theatre, track, softball. Just because we as parents put a stick in their hand when they were kids doesn't mean they're going to stick with it. Missing family weddings, christenings, proms for lax games or a tryout is a whole other issue but I digress...
You are absolutely right - girls find other interests
And don't want to commit all there time - weekends
Summers - all year round to lax- but once they stop
That and just play in spring they will never see
Playing time on varsity - those
Spots go to the girls who play all year round are committed
To a college - I guess that is what I
Meant by disgust and politics -
Varsity lax is not for the seasonal player
Anymore and that kind of stinks
What has happened to dedication, commitment, work ethic and sacrifice?
How about athleticism, skill and an understanding of the game?
When did athletics at the varsity level become a right?
When did it become acceptable to instal a class system?
Why do some believe that younger players must wait their turn?
Why do some believe that 11th and 12th graders should be given priority treatment based on their grade?
At the very least a coach should be honest with their players. Players should have to compete everyday and they should know where they stand based upon their performance not on their grade/class.
The best coaches identify the best players.
The best teams play the best players.
The best experience for the girls will come when a coach is honest. The girls will respect their coach as well as their teammates when the coach puts politics aside and lets the girls compete for their position.
Just because you don't play a high school sport all year round and your parents might not be able to afford the 5000+ pricetag of club lax doesn't mean you are less committed and should be penalized and not be able to make a varsity team
I wish some of these less affluent kids in certain communities could afford to play club - they would blow these rich kids out of the water
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
Or sometimes they just find other interests. Many times it's the parents that seem to have the bigger issues and they project their own opinions on to their children. I know there are situations where kids seem to get a raw deal, but to say that many quit because of politics and disgust I think is a bit of an exaggeration. High school has so much to offer besides lacrosse. Some of my children's peers have left lacrosse for theatre, track, softball. Just because we as parents put a stick in their hand when they were kids doesn't mean they're going to stick with it. Missing family weddings, christenings, proms for lax games or a tryout is a whole other issue but I digress...
You are absolutely right - girls find other interests
And don't want to commit all there time - weekends
Summers - all year round to lax- but once they stop
That and just play in spring they will never see
Playing time on varsity - those
Spots go to the girls who play all year round are committed
To a college - I guess that is what I
Meant by disgust and politics -
Varsity lax is not for the seasonal player
Anymore and that kind of stinks
What has happened to dedication, commitment, work ethic and sacrifice?
How about athleticism, skill and an understanding of the game?
When did athletics at the varsity level become a right?
When did it become acceptable to instal a class system?
Why do some believe that younger players must wait their turn?
Why do some believe that 11th and 12th graders should be given priority treatment based on their grade?
At the very least a coach should be honest with their players. Players should have to compete everyday and they should know where they stand based upon their performance not on their grade/class.
The best coaches identify the best players.
The best teams play the best players.
The best experience for the girls will come when a coach is honest. The girls will respect their coach as well as their teammates when the coach puts politics aside and lets the girls compete for their position.
This poster is either horribly misguided or naive, Coaches will play who they are pressured to play. Ability and work ethic have nothing to do with it. There is a player right now that is a senior D1 commit, that started for, and at one time was time the position player for a very good club team. she was never cut from any team, and has more than once beaten out other, more highly touted players for a starting slot, and has lead a team to a championship game. She is sitting on the bench unable to get in because an administrator within the district has a vendetta against her an her family. Instead they play an uncommitted 11th grader, with little or no varsity experience, and use the excuse that she is a transfer from another school. The statement that coaches will play the better girls is just a lie. That or this is the worst coach on Long Island
Where is this happening???
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
Or sometimes they just find other interests. Many times it's the parents that seem to have the bigger issues and they project their own opinions on to their children. I know there are situations where kids seem to get a raw deal, but to say that many quit because of politics and disgust I think is a bit of an exaggeration. High school has so much to offer besides lacrosse. Some of my children's peers have left lacrosse for theatre, track, softball. Just because we as parents put a stick in their hand when they were kids doesn't mean they're going to stick with it. Missing family weddings, christenings, proms for lax games or a tryout is a whole other issue but I digress...
You are absolutely right - girls find other interests
And don't want to commit all there time - weekends
Summers - all year round to lax- but once they stop
That and just play in spring they will never see
Playing time on varsity - those
Spots go to the girls who play all year round are committed
To a college - I guess that is what I
Meant by disgust and politics -
Varsity lax is not for the seasonal player
Anymore and that kind of stinks
What has happened to dedication, commitment, work ethic and sacrifice?
How about athleticism, skill and an understanding of the game?
When did athletics at the varsity level become a right?
When did it become acceptable to instal a class system?
Why do some believe that younger players must wait their turn?
Why do some believe that 11th and 12th graders should be given priority treatment based on their grade?
At the very least a coach should be honest with their players. Players should have to compete everyday and they should know where they stand based upon their performance not on their grade/class.
The best coaches identify the best players.
The best teams play the best players.
The best experience for the girls will come when a coach is honest. The girls will respect their coach as well as their teammates when the coach puts politics aside and lets the girls compete for their position.
Just because you don't play a high school sport all year round and your parents might not be able to afford the 5000+ pricetag of club lax doesn't mean you are less committed and should be penalized and not be able to make a varsity team
I wish some of these less affluent kids in certain communities could afford to play club - they would blow these rich kids out of the water
You are correct, to be competitive in varsity lacrosse, you to play travel, which not everyone can afford. This is a big financial and time commitment for the girls and their families. At middle school and JV levels, the fast soccer player types can get by, but end up going to track instead of varsity. My daughter is in an large school A division, but only have about 8 girls who even play travel in grades 9-12. I'm sure ESM, Sayville, RP, BBP, Mt Sinai, SWR, who are much smaller schools have 30-40 travel girls to choose from.
[/quote]]This poster is either horribly misguided or naive, Coaches will play who they are pressured to play. Ability and work ethic have nothing to do with it. There is a player right now that is a senior D1 commit, that started for, and at one time was time the position player for a very good club team. she was never cut from any team, and has more than once beaten out other, more highly touted players for a starting slot, and has lead a team to a championship game. She is sitting on the bench unable to get in because an administrator within the district has a vendetta against her an her family. Instead they play an uncommitted 11th grader, with little or no varsity experience, and use the excuse that she is a transfer from another school. The statement that coaches will play the better girls is just a lie. That or this is the worst coach on Long Island
[/quote]Where is this happening???
I could never mention what district this is happening in, The girl in question was threatened with expulsion from the team if, and I quote, she will be "Cut out like a cancer" if she , or her family, do anything the coach (or the administrator, or the administrators spouse) deem antagonistic. Needless to say she is very upset. Not that the coach or administrator cares.
]This poster is either horribly misguided or naive, Coaches will play who they are pressured to play. Ability and work ethic have nothing to do with it. There is a player right now that is a senior D1 commit, that started for, and at one time was time the position player for a very good club team. she was never cut from any team, and has more than once beaten out other, more highly touted players for a starting slot, and has lead a team to a championship game. She is sitting on the bench unable to get in because an administrator within the district has a vendetta against her an her family. Instead they play an uncommitted 11th grader, with little or no varsity experience, and use the excuse that she is a transfer from another school. The statement that coaches will play the better girls is just a lie. That or this is the worst coach on Long Island
[/quote]Where is this happening???
I could never mention what district this is happening in, The girl in question was threatened with expulsion from the team if, and I quote, she will be "Cut out like a cancer" if she , or her family, do anything the coach (or the administrator, or the administrators spouse) deem antagonistic. Needless to say she is very upset. Not that the coach or administrator cares. [/quote]
If this is true the family needs to take legal action
against the school- I have heard of
Some crazy school politics back stabbing but legally
this is a threat and the family has legal grounds
to take action
]This poster is either horribly misguided or naive, Coaches will play who they are pressured to play. Ability and work ethic have nothing to do with it. There is a player right now that is a senior D1 commit, that started for, and at one time was time the position player for a very good club team. she was never cut from any team, and has more than once beaten out other, more highly touted players for a starting slot, and has lead a team to a championship game. She is sitting on the bench unable to get in because an administrator within the district has a vendetta against her an her family. Instead they play an uncommitted 11th grader, with little or no varsity experience, and use the excuse that she is a transfer from another school. The statement that coaches will play the better girls is just a lie. That or this is the worst coach on Long Island
Where is this happening???
I could never mention what district this is happening in, The girl in question was threatened with expulsion from the team if, and I quote, she will be "Cut out like a cancer" if she , or her family, do anything the coach (or the administrator, or the administrators spouse) deem antagonistic. Needless to say she is very upset. Not that the coach or administrator cares. [/quote]
If this is true the family needs to take legal action
against the school- I have heard of
Some crazy school politics back stabbing but legally
this is a threat and the family has legal grounds
to take action [/quote]
Anyone else read Harlan Coben's new book The Stranger? It's a mystery thriller set in a fictitious affluent lacrosse town in NJ. Some of the characters in the book had to have been based on lacrosse parents in my town - or yours. Unfortunately, I even saw a little of myself in one mom.
]This poster is either horribly misguided or naive, Coaches will play who they are pressured to play. Ability and work ethic have nothing to do with it. There is a player right now that is a senior D1 commit, that started for, and at one time was time the position player for a very good club team. she was never cut from any team, and has more than once beaten out other, more highly touted players for a starting slot, and has lead a team to a championship game. She is sitting on the bench unable to get in because an administrator within the district has a vendetta against her an her family. Instead they play an uncommitted 11th grader, with little or no varsity experience, and use the excuse that she is a transfer from another school. The statement that coaches will play the better girls is just a lie. That or this is the worst coach on Long Island
Where is this happening???
I could never mention what district this is happening in, The girl in question was threatened with expulsion from the team if, and I quote, she will be "Cut out like a cancer" if she , or her family, do anything the coach (or the administrator, or the administrators spouse) deem antagonistic. Needless to say she is very upset. Not that the coach or administrator cares.
If this is true the family needs to take legal action
against the school- I have heard of
Some crazy school politics back stabbing but legally
this is a threat and the family has legal grounds
to take action [/quote]
Anyone else read Harlan Coben's new book The Stranger? It's a mystery thriller set in a fictitious affluent lacrosse town in NJ. Some of the characters in the book had to have been based on lacrosse parents in my town - or yours. Unfortunately, I even saw a little of myself in one mom. [/quote]
Thank u ! Love that author and can't wait to read it!!
Should be Intersting !
]This poster is either horribly misguided or naive, Coaches will play who they are pressured to play. Ability and work ethic have nothing to do with it. There is a player right now that is a senior D1 commit, that started for, and at one time was time the position player for a very good club team. she was never cut from any team, and has more than once beaten out other, more highly touted players for a starting slot, and has lead a team to a championship game. She is sitting on the bench unable to get in because an administrator within the district has a vendetta against her an her family. Instead they play an uncommitted 11th grader, with little or no varsity experience, and use the excuse that she is a transfer from another school. The statement that coaches will play the better girls is just a lie. That or this is the worst coach on Long Island
[/quote]Where is this happening???
I could never mention what district this is happening in, The girl in question was threatened with expulsion from the team if, and I quote, she will be "Cut out like a cancer" if she , or her family, do anything the coach (or the administrator, or the administrators spouse) deem antagonistic. Needless to say she is very upset. Not that the coach or administrator cares. [/quote]
Sorry, don't buy it. Been around lax and sports for a long time and heard some crazy stuff, 99% not true. Just find it hard to believe that some stud lax player is sitting on the bench, because of a vendetta from an administrator. I have acouple of stories that are even crazier than this one.
]This poster is either horribly misguided or naive, Coaches will play who they are pressured to play. Ability and work ethic have nothing to do with it. There is a player right now that is a senior D1 commit, that started for, and at one time was time the position player for a very good club team. she was never cut from any team, and has more than once beaten out other, more highly touted players for a starting slot, and has lead a team to a championship game. She is sitting on the bench unable to get in because an administrator within the district has a vendetta against her an her family. Instead they play an uncommitted 11th grader, with little or no varsity experience, and use the excuse that she is a transfer from another school. The statement that coaches will play the better girls is just a lie. That or this is the worst coach on Long Island
Where is this happening???
I could never mention what district this is happening in, The girl in question was threatened with expulsion from the team if, and I quote, she will be "Cut out like a cancer" if she , or her family, do anything the coach (or the administrator, or the administrators spouse) deem antagonistic. Needless to say she is very upset. Not that the coach or administrator cares. [/quote]
Sorry, don't buy it. Been around lax and sports for a long time and heard some crazy stuff, 99% not true. Just find it hard to believe that some stud lax player is sitting on the bench, because of a vendetta from an administrator. I have acouple of stories that are even crazier than this one. [/quote]
It may not be an excuse I think there are transfer rules and requirements.
http://www.hufsd.edu/assets/pdfs/athletics/2012/nysphaa_bylaws_eligibility.pdf pg 107
If you want to believe it's not true that's your right. To think that coaches will not bench a player to to gain favor with an administrator that is running a program by proxy is naive. I"m just relaying the story as it is. I know that when the transfer was in progress the family called and ask the A.D. if she would lose a year of eligibility, and the family was assured that if the player was selected to play for the team she would be eligible. The rule that was sighted was never, to my knowledge, used as an excuse to not play her, and if it is the reason why wouldn't the coach relay that as the reason?
If the kid is a transfer they must sit for the year it is a nys athletics participation law. Nothing nefarious going on.
]This poster is either horribly misguided or naive, Coaches will play who they are pressured to play. Ability and work ethic have nothing to do with it. There is a player right now that is a senior D1 commit, that started for, and at one time was time the position player for a very good club team. she was never cut from any team, and has more than once beaten out other, more highly touted players for a starting slot, and has lead a team to a championship game. She is sitting on the bench unable to get in because an administrator within the district has a vendetta against her an her family. Instead they play an uncommitted 11th grader, with little or no varsity experience, and use the excuse that she is a transfer from another school. The statement that coaches will play the better girls is just a lie. That or this is the worst coach on Long Island
[/quote]Where is this happening???
I could never mention what district this is happening in, The girl in question was threatened with expulsion from the team if, and I quote, she will be "Cut out like a cancer" if she , or her family, do anything the coach (or the administrator, or the administrators spouse) deem antagonistic. Needless to say she is very upset. Not that the coach or administrator cares. [/quote]
sounds like North Port
The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.
Opinions are great, everyone can have them but it doesn't make it true!!
I thought taht the Huntington Team is filled with Elevate players - not YJ players? I know a lot of girls on Elevate that play on Huntington. The coach is a YJ coach but alot of players are Elevate.
If the kid is a transfer they must sit for the year it is a nys athletics participation law. Nothing nefarious going on.
If a girltransfers High Schools they have to sit out one full year? Is that correct? Is that for both public and private schools? I dont think that is accurate.
If the kid is a transfer they must sit for the year it is a nys athletics participation law. Nothing nefarious going on.
Not true.
Anyone know what the most points in a game is so far this season, no names just total points.
Can we please start talking about the games this season
Can we please start talking about the games this season
Ok what do you think?
The travel kids often don't pass or include girls that don't play club so that's why in many towns HS teams are begging girls to come back and play. Everybody wants their name in the paper and selfish play drives the fringe players away from the sport. When you are winning by 8, 9, 10 or more how about moving the ball around? Do we really need to see girls with 15 points in a blowout game?
Looks like Newsday has the high in game point total for Suffolk with a couple of 15 point games And Nassau tops at 11 points
If the kid is a transfer they must sit for the year it is a nys athletics participation law. Nothing nefarious going on.
If a girltransfers High Schools they have to sit out one full year? Is that correct? Is that for both public and private schools? I dont think that is accurate.
NYSPHSAA TRANSFER RULE AND ELIGIBILTIY
In accordance with the NYSPHSAA Transfer Rule, the eligibility of a high school athlete is impacted if the athlete transfers from one high school to another without a corresponding change of address of the parent. The rule state the following:
If a student transfers after attendance begins in his/her 9th grade year, from one high school to another, without a corresponding change of address of the parents, the athlete is ineligible to participate for a period of one year in any sport that he or she participated in within the last year.
This eligibility policy governs transfers between public school to public school, as well as transfers between private schools and public schools, or parochial schools and public schools. In essence, if an athlete leaves the Commack School District to attend a private or parochial school, and returns after their ninth grade year has begun, and there is no change of address of the parents, the athlete is ineligible to participate in any sport that they played in the preceding year. The rule is sport specific. A written request for appeal can be submitted to the Section XI Eligibility Committee for a student-athlete who transfers due to circumstances of undue hardship. Supporting documentation must be provided upon request.
https://www.commack.k12.ny.us/athleticdepartment/athletichandbook.pdfTaken directly from Commacks website, it is listed on nearly every school districts website if one looks hard enough.
A kid will get ONE waiver per high school career, must be filed for and approved prior to first practice.
If the kid is a transfer they must sit for the year it is a nys athletics participation law. Nothing nefarious going on.
If a girltransfers High Schools they have to sit out one full year? Is that correct? Is that for both public and private schools? I dont think that is accurate.
NYSPHSAA TRANSFER RULE AND ELIGIBILTIY
In accordance with the NYSPHSAA Transfer Rule, the eligibility of a high school athlete is impacted if the athlete transfers from one high school to another without a corresponding change of address of the parent. The rule state the following:
If a student transfers after attendance begins in his/her 9th grade year, from one high school to another, without a corresponding change of address of the parents, the athlete is ineligible to participate for a period of one year in any sport that he or she participated in within the last year.
This eligibility policy governs transfers between public school to public school, as well as transfers between private schools and public schools, or parochial schools and public schools. In essence, if an athlete leaves the Commack School District to attend a private or parochial school, and returns after their ninth grade year has begun, and there is no change of address of the parents, the athlete is ineligible to participate in any sport that they played in the preceding year. The rule is sport specific. A written request for appeal can be submitted to the Section XI Eligibility Committee for a student-athlete who transfers due to circumstances of undue hardship. Supporting documentation must be provided upon request.
https://www.commack.k12.ny.us/athleticdepartment/athletichandbook.pdfTaken directly from Commacks website, it is listed on nearly every school districts website if one looks hard enough.
A kid will get ONE waiver per high school career, must be filed for and approved prior to first practice.
If the family moves from one district to another the player is eligible right away.
The rule is in place so that kids can not simply enroll in another district in order to play a sport.
The rule is in place to try and stop people from gaming the system and to prevent teams from bringing in ringers. However, where there is a will there is a way. Parents have been finding ways around the system for years. Not sure how often it happens but it does happen.
Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.
The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism
Or sometimes they just find other interests. Many times it's the parents that seem to have the bigger issues and they project their own opinions on to their children. I know there are situations where kids seem to get a raw deal, but to say that many quit because of politics and disgust I think is a bit of an exaggeration. High school has so much to offer besides lacrosse. Some of my children's peers have left lacrosse for theatre, track, softball. Just because we as parents put a stick in their hand when they were kids doesn't mean they're going to stick with it. Missing family weddings, christenings, proms for lax games or a tryout is a whole other issue but I digress...
You are absolutely right - girls find other interests
And don't want to commit all there time - weekends
Summers - all year round to lax- but once they stop
That and just play in spring they will never see
Playing time on varsity - those
Spots go to the girls who play all year round are committed
To a college - I guess that is what I
Meant by disgust and politics -
Varsity lax is not for the seasonal player
Anymore and that kind of stinks
What has happened to dedication, commitment, work ethic and sacrifice?
How about athleticism, skill and an understanding of the game?
When did athletics at the varsity level become a right?
When did it become acceptable to instal a class system?
Why do some believe that younger players must wait their turn?
Why do some believe that 11th and 12th graders should be given priority treatment based on their grade?
At the very least a coach should be honest with their players. Players should have to compete everyday and they should know where they stand based upon their performance not on their grade/class.
The best coaches identify the best players.
The best teams play the best players.
The best experience for the girls will come when a coach is honest. The girls will respect their coach as well as their teammates when the coach puts politics aside and lets the girls compete for their position.
Just because you don't play a high school sport all year round and your parents might not be able to afford the 5000+ pricetag of club lax doesn't mean you are less committed and should be penalized and not be able to make a varsity team
I wish some of these less affluent kids in certain communities could afford to play club - they would blow these rich kids out of the water
Never said anything about Club Lacrosse. By the way, you do not have to play Club Lacrosse in order to:
- Show up at tryouts in shape. (you can stay fit and train on your own) There is no excuse to come in out of shape and overweight. Doing so displays a lack of commitment on the players part.
- Show up with rusty stick skills. (you can hit the wall or work with a friend) Showing up rusty also displays a lack of commitment.
- Give your best effort throughout the tryouts. Players who were on a team the previous year but do not show an effort during tryouts should not make the current team. (you do not have to be the best to give your best effort)
Sad that there are so many people who believe that athletics should be about seniority and not ability.
The coaches who identify and play the best players in their program will win. Forget the clubs, forget the players grade and forget the politics. Simply identify and play the strongest players. When that is done, all of the players will respect the coach and each other and the "Team" will be successful.
Let the players compete and select and play the best.
Have two girls race, then have the coach tell the girl who came in second that she won the race. The players will not respect the coach or the girl who came in second. There will be resentment and the "Team" will not develop a strong bond. Play upperclassmen or players from certain clubs even if they are not the strongest players and you will have "clicks" and issues on the team.
The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.
Opinions are great, everyone can have them but it doesn't make it true!!
Really???? Well if you watched the first game you would know that the 7th graders were responsible for 7 of the 13 goals scored. They belong there.
The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.
Opinions are great, everyone can have them but it doesn't make it true!!
Really???? Well if you watched the first game you would know that the 7th graders were responsible for 7 of the 13 goals scored. They belong there.
But I guess we will never know the score if they weren't there and the older girls were.
say a town has a girl that transferred from a Catholic school where she played varsity lacrosse in 9th grade is she eligible to play in her local high school in 10th grade?
thanks i thought so but was not sure due to the other posts listed here
thanks i thought so but was not sure due to the other posts listed here
NYS changed a significant rule this past summer about transfers.
I believe and could be wrong, a player can change back to her hometown HS at any time and play that season's sport (Any participated practice days at the other school count towards the NYS obligated required practice days at the new school). A player can also if proves family Hardship (divorce, move or death) can play outside of their hometown.
I am not sure how the Catholic Schools amended their policy. I believe transfer players could only play non league games. I believe they may have changed as well.
The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.
Opinions are great, everyone can have them but it doesn't make it true!!
Really???? Well if you watched the first game you would know that the 7th graders were responsible for 7 of the 13 goals scored. They belong there.
But I guess we will never know the score if they weren't there and the older girls were.
Yes I do, it would have been tied, like it was until the coach started putting the girls in. The bottom line is that these girls make the team better. Isn't that the goal? There are 9th grade girls on varsity, isn't that the same thing? This is a team sport and if a few players help a team, how is that not a win for everyone involved?
Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.
Opinions are great, everyone can have them but it doesn't make it true!!
Really???? Well if you watched the first game you would know that the 7th graders were responsible for 7 of the 13 goals scored. They belong there.
But I guess we will never know the score if they weren't there and the older girls were.
Yes I do, it would have been tied, like it was until the coach started putting the girls in. The bottom line is that these girls make the team better. Isn't that the goal? There are 9th grade girls on varsity, isn't that the same thing? This is a team sport and if a few players help a team, how is that not a win for everyone involved?
Calm down Mom, I am sure Kelly Amonte and Jen Levy were there.
Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
Get the ball to (fill in the blank) and then everyone else can stop running!
Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
Get the ball to (fill in the blank) and then everyone else can stop running!
No, not on a successful team. That works against weak opponents but not a team with adequate defense. Then it takes a team effort.
Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
Get the ball to (fill in the blank) and then everyone else can stop running!
Unfortunately you are correct for many teams this is true. But not the case for the really good teams and you can pin the goal to goal culture of a team directly on the coach. Somehow a parent walks off the sideline beaming after a player spent the entire game dodging, resetting, shooting and netting 8 goals. As a parent you should be embarrassed. There are teams and players that play a very unselfish game, including many/most of the players on offense. It is great to watch when you see it in motion. There is nothing more painful and pathetic to watch than an individual effort, win or lose.
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Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
Get the ball to (fill in the blank) and then everyone else can stop running!
Unfortunately you are correct for many teams this is true. But not the case for the really good teams and you can pin the goal to goal culture of a team directly on the coach. Somehow a parent walks off the sideline beaming after a player spent the entire game dodging, resetting, shooting and netting 8 goals. As a parent you should be embarrassed. There are teams and players that play a very unselfish game, including many/most of the players on offense. It is great to watch when you see it in motion. There is nothing more painful and pathetic to watch than an individual effort, win or lose.
It is pathetic, and unfortunately, it's coaches at many levels, but like powder said - doesn't work against the good defenses!
I guess your daughter did not make the JV team and thats what all your anger is about?
It looks like a 7th grader filled the cage against WH today!
I thought this was a Girl's Varsity Lacrosse Thread
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Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
Get the ball to (fill in the blank) and then everyone else can stop running!
Unfortunately you are correct for many teams this is true. But not the case for the really good teams and you can pin the goal to goal culture of a team directly on the coach. Somehow a parent walks off the sideline beaming after a player spent the entire game dodging, resetting, shooting and netting 8 goals. As a parent you should be embarrassed. There are teams and players that play a very unselfish game, including many/most of the players on offense. It is great to watch when you see it in motion. There is nothing more painful and pathetic to watch than an individual effort, win or lose.
It is pathetic, and unfortunately, it's coaches at many levels, but like powder said - doesn't work against the good defenses!
Coaches that don't play kids and coach ball movement are in programs that are dying. Who cares if your team has an all American if everyone else around her was recruited off the kick line team. If we are winning by 10 how about making a pass, I'm just sayin
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Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
Get the ball to (fill in the blank) and then everyone else can stop running!
Unfortunately you are correct for many teams this is true. But not the case for the really good teams and you can pin the goal to goal culture of a team directly on the coach. Somehow a parent walks off the sideline beaming after a player spent the entire game dodging, resetting, shooting and netting 8 goals. As a parent you should be embarrassed. There are teams and players that play a very unselfish game, including many/most of the players on offense. It is great to watch when you see it in motion. There is nothing more painful and pathetic to watch than an individual effort, win or lose.
It is pathetic, and unfortunately, it's coaches at many levels, but like powder said - doesn't work against the good defenses!
Coaches that don't play kids and coach ball movement are in programs that are dying. Who cares if your team has an all American if everyone else around her was recruited off the kick line team. If we are winning by 10 how about making a pass, I'm just sayin
game yesterday in Suffolk - 2 players had every point for their team. Not one other player had an assist or goal out of 12 goals scored. Oh they lost by the way.
How about also playing both sides of the field it's called defense.
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Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
Get the ball to (fill in the blank) and then everyone else can stop running!
Unfortunately you are correct for many teams this is true. But not the case for the really good teams and you can pin the goal to goal culture of a team directly on the coach. Somehow a parent walks off the sideline beaming after a player spent the entire game dodging, resetting, shooting and netting 8 goals. As a parent you should be embarrassed. There are teams and players that play a very unselfish game, including many/most of the players on offense. It is great to watch when you see it in motion. There is nothing more painful and pathetic to watch than an individual effort, win or lose.
It is pathetic, and unfortunately, it's coaches at many levels, but like powder said - doesn't work against the good defenses!
Coaches that don't play kids and coach ball movement are in programs that are dying. Who cares if your team has an all American if everyone else around her was recruited off the kick line team. If we are winning by 10 how about making a pass, I'm just sayin
game yesterday in Suffolk - 2 players had every point for their team. Not one other player had an assist or goal out of 12 goals scored. Oh they lost by the way.
Perfect example, looks like to play on a team that says get the ball to XYZ and then get out of the way. Think all the other girls are having a good time? You are losing and they don't touch the ball because they have been told they are not worthy to go to the cage. Next step is your surrounding squad will be from the POm squad.
How about also playing both sides of the field it's called defense.
Some players are too concerned about their stats to play defense.
Catholic girls teams....get yourself some snipers in the next few years...St Anthony's brought up a ninth grade goalie. She's play ing behind a senior right now but watch out anyone facing St. Anthony's next few years.....They're sealing the cage.
My daughters PAL team was coached like this for years. Daddy coach who puts his daughter at attack and spends the whole game screaming get the ball to XYZ. The other girls do all the legwork scooping up the ground bulls running the entire field while she stands right next to the net. Finally after about three years of this BS the girls themselves stopped passing her the bowl and started passing to each other and going to the cage it was beautiful because the rest of us parents didn't prompt them to do it they were smart enough to realize what was going on and did it on their own
lights out . Lucky for ST. A. very smart player.
Catholic girls teams....get yourself some snipers in the next few years...St Anthony's brought up a ninth grade goalie. She's play ing behind a senior right now but watch out anyone facing St. Anthony's next few years.....They're sealing the cage.
does anyone have a link to FIOS TV scheduled games?
I thought the St A Goalie was a junior?
My daughters PAL team was coached like this for years. Daddy coach who puts his daughter at attack and spends the whole game screaming get the ball to XYZ. The other girls do all the legwork scooping up the ground bulls running the entire field while she stands right next to the net. Finally after about three years of this BS the girls themselves stopped passing her the bowl and started passing to each other and going to the cage it was beautiful because the rest of us parents didn't prompt them to do it they were smart enough to realize what was going on and did it on their own
first off it is a middies job to scoop and run; feed dodge pass and score; it is the defenses job to play with their feet create turnovers and scoop and run. it is the Attack job to do just that attack. Score and assist. it is a team game when all players do their part it works.
I thought the St A Goalie was a junior?
she is
Sorry, you're right she is a junior. And a very good goalie as well.
My daughters PAL team was coached like this for years. Daddy coach who puts his daughter at attack and spends the whole game screaming get the ball to XYZ. The other girls do all the legwork scooping up the ground bulls running the entire field while she stands right next to the net. Finally after about three years of this BS the girls themselves stopped passing her the bowl and started passing to each other and going to the cage it was beautiful because the rest of us parents didn't prompt them to do it they were smart enough to realize what was going on and did it on their own
first off it is a middies job to scoop and run; feed dodge pass and score; it is the defenses job to play with their feet create turnovers and scoop and run. it is the Attack job to do just that attack. Score and assist. it is a team game when all players do their part it works.
The Newsday Boxscore, early recruiting and summer team propaganda has made HS lacrosse anything but a team game sorry.
My daughters PAL team was coached like this for years. Daddy coach who puts his daughter at attack and spends the whole game screaming get the ball to XYZ. The other girls do all the legwork scooping up the ground bulls running the entire field while she stands right next to the net. Finally after about three years of this BS the girls themselves stopped passing her the bowl and started passing to each other and going to the cage it was beautiful because the rest of us parents didn't prompt them to do it they were smart enough to realize what was going on and did it on their own
first off it is a middies job to scoop and run; feed dodge pass and score; it is the defenses job to play with their feet create turnovers and scoop and run. it is the Attack job to do just that attack. Score and assist. it is a team game when all players do their part it works.
The Newsday Boxscore, early recruiting and summer team propaganda has made HS lacrosse anything but a team game sorry.
You forgot Daddy's or Mommy's agenda.
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Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
Get the ball to (fill in the blank) and then everyone else can stop running!
Unfortunately you are correct for many teams this is true. But not the case for the really good teams and you can pin the goal to goal culture of a team directly on the coach. Somehow a parent walks off the sideline beaming after a player spent the entire game dodging, resetting, shooting and netting 8 goals. As a parent you should be embarrassed. There are teams and players that play a very unselfish game, including many/most of the players on offense. It is great to watch when you see it in motion. There is nothing more painful and pathetic to watch than an individual effort, win or lose.
It is pathetic, and unfortunately, it's coaches at many levels, but like powder said - doesn't work against the good defenses!
Coaches that don't play kids and coach ball movement are in programs that are dying. Who cares if your team has an all American if everyone else around her was recruited off the kick line team. If we are winning by 10 how about making a pass, I'm just sayin
game yesterday in Suffolk - 2 players had every point for their team. Not one other player had an assist or goal out of 12 goals scored. Oh they lost by the way.
The losing team is terrible. Kudos to the team who won, they subbed in some players who don't usually play all that much. That's the only reason the game was as close as it was.
Glad the losing team was able to pad some stats!!! Good luck the rest of the way out. Next team won't be nice. Same as BBP was! Hope next team they play buries them!!!
My daughters PAL team was coached like this for years. Daddy coach who puts his daughter at attack and spends the whole game screaming get the ball to XYZ. The other girls do all the legwork scooping up the ground bulls running the entire field while she stands right next to the net. Finally after about three years of this BS the girls themselves stopped passing her the bowl and started passing to each other and going to the cage it was beautiful because the rest of us parents didn't prompt them to do it they were smart enough to realize what was going on and did it on their own
first off it is a middies job to scoop and run; feed dodge pass and score; it is the defenses job to play with their feet create turnovers and scoop and run. it is the Attack job to do just that attack. Score and assist. it is a team game when all players do their part it works.
The Newsday Boxscore, early recruiting and summer team propaganda has made HS lacrosse anything but a team game sorry.
Our teams have been hijacked by travel parents. I would be surprised if we can field a team in a few years if this continues. Do you think they ever look within and see what they have done to our teams or are they just happy their kid is the one everything goes through? Seems like the classic "my kid" syndrome
Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
Get the ball to (fill in the blank) and then everyone else can stop running!
Unfortunately you are correct for many teams this is true. But not the case for the really good teams and you can pin the goal to goal culture of a team directly on the coach. Somehow a parent walks off the sideline beaming after a player spent the entire game dodging, resetting, shooting and netting 8 goals. As a parent you should be embarrassed. There are teams and players that play a very unselfish game, including many/most of the players on offense. It is great to watch when you see it in motion. There is nothing more painful and pathetic to watch than an individual effort, win or lose.
Sorry there is nothing more painful to watch when a team is up by 6 goals with 20 minutes left, playing keep away either get up by more goals and get other players in or continue to attack the goal this 20 minute keep away is pathetic. I would rather watch great indivudual talent going to the goal then watch keep away.
You know nothing about LI Girls lacrosse if you think the two girls from "the losing team" needed to pad their stats. They are both very accomplished players with the one being a top 5 LI player.
Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
Get the ball to (fill in the blank) and then everyone else can stop running!
Unfortunately you are correct for many teams this is true. But not the case for the really good teams and you can pin the goal to goal culture of a team directly on the coach. Somehow a parent walks off the sideline beaming after a player spent the entire game dodging, resetting, shooting and netting 8 goals. As a parent you should be embarrassed. There are teams and players that play a very unselfish game, including many/most of the players on offense. It is great to watch when you see it in motion. There is nothing more painful and pathetic to watch than an individual effort, win or lose.
Sorry there is nothing more painful to watch when a team is up by 6 goals with 20 minutes left, playing keep away either get up by more goals and get other players in or continue to attack the goal this 20 minute keep away is pathetic. I would rather watch great indivudual talent going to the goal then watch keep away.
How about at up 6 someone other than a point hound gets to go to the cage? Maybe the goal scoring percentage comes down and game stays close but we keep playing lacrosse instead of keep away. We just don't need to see the same kid get 15 points while everyone else watches.
Girls lacrosse is anything but a team sport.
Get the ball to (fill in the blank) and then everyone else can stop running!
Unfortunately you are correct for many teams this is true. But not the case for the really good teams and you can pin the goal to goal culture of a team directly on the coach. Somehow a parent walks off the sideline beaming after a player spent the entire game dodging, resetting, shooting and netting 8 goals. As a parent you should be embarrassed. There are teams and players that play a very unselfish game, including many/most of the players on offense. It is great to watch when you see it in motion. There is nothing more painful and pathetic to watch than an individual effort, win or lose.
Sorry there is nothing more painful to watch when a team is up by 6 goals with 20 minutes left, playing keep away either get up by more goals and get other players in or continue to attack the goal this 20 minute keep away is pathetic. I would rather watch great indivudual talent going to the goal then watch keep away.
How about at up 6 someone other than a point hound gets to go to the cage? Maybe the goal scoring percentage comes down and game stays close but we keep playing lacrosse instead of keep away. We just don't need to see the same kid get 15 points while everyone else watches.
Agree with that, but I have to say I've seen our HS coach tell our point hound to stop scoring and she does not, she "forgets." And because she is his pet, she stays in while the does the V8 headslap. She (and her parents) are all about the numbers.
Im pretty sure the other team had a kid that put up 7 goals as well. The other girls who had 4 and 5 goals just happen to be two of the best that Suffolk County has to offer. Both will excel in college as well. Watch and enjoy.
You know nothing about LI Girls lacrosse if you think the two girls from "the losing team" needed to pad their stats. They are both very accomplished players with the one being a top 5 LI player.
Part of being a top player is helping those around you get better. 7 goals 4 assists and 5 goals 1 assist are impressive numbers. How do their teammates feel? Did they learn anything positive from playing in that game? What message is the coach sending to the rest of the girls on the team? Win at all cost? What are they going to do when these two girls graduate?
Glad my kid is not part of that program!
Im pretty sure the other team had a kid that put up 7 goals as well. The other girls who had 4 and 5 goals just happen to be two of the best that Suffolk County has to offer. Both will excel in college as well. Watch and enjoy.
Winning team had a bunch of players who scored and had assists. They also allowed for multiple subs including goalie so as not to run up score.
Justify it all you want but there is no reason two girls should account for 100% of the points. The coach should be ashamed. Develop some other players. From a parents point of view, I'd be scratching my head. Coaches are teachers and should treat sports like that. HS sports shouldn't be win at all cost. Think about the other 15-20 girls in that uniform. Their confidence has got to be at an all time high after that performance.
I am aware of a middies job genius. My point is a midi should be able to go to the cage if she has a legitimate shot. Not always feed daddy's attack girl who misses 80% of the time
Top Gun and YJ parents will never admit there is a problem with girls quitting because of their own daughters selfish play. Travel parents want their kids up in 7th grade an early commitment in 9th and to be mentioned in newsday daily. They will tell you everyone else can't keep up.
Sachem East lost again. 0-4 . Bad team, with a bad coach
Sachem East lost again. 0-4 . Bad team, with a bad coach
Sachem East lost again. 0-4 . Bad team, with a bad coach
They Were bad last year with entire offense based around a ball hog. Were able to make it to playoffs only to get smoked. Sound Familiar WBab. That's what you have to look forward to!!!!
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
I'm saying one girl from Happauge and from West Bab who scored 4 & 5 goals are two of the best players in Suffolk they are both unstoppable and when a game is on the line the ball would be in their stick going to the cage or the coach should have their heads examined. Give West Bab some time they will be right there when the season ends just watch.
I took a coaching clinic years too late but the one thing I remember them saying is that you ever said "get the ball to ______ and then say everyone else clear out" that you were taking the easy way out of coaching youth lacrosse. Too many youth, travel and HS teams run the iso play with the best girl on the team. Unfortunetly with every iso play everyone else on the field falls further and further behind with less and less touches until they quit
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
Unfortunately Stats are usually kept by High School Girls who really don't know the game. Also I think the responsibility to
report and stats goes to the Home team.
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
In my town the booster club pays someone to keep the stats. As far as goalie saves: For a goalie to be credited with a save , the ball must either touch her stick, her body, or the post. Wide shots are not goalie saves, but they are shots on goal.
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
In my town the booster club pays someone to keep the stats. As far as goalie saves: For a goalie to be credited with a save , the ball must either touch her stick, her body, or the post. Wide shots are not goalie saves, but they are shots on goal.
Wide shots are not shots on goal, they are shots taken, or attempted, but not on goal
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
In my town the booster club pays someone to keep the stats. As far as goalie saves: For a goalie to be credited with a save , the ball must either touch her stick, her body, or the post. Wide shots are not goalie saves, but they are shots on goal.
Wide shots are not shots on goal, they are shots taken, or attempted, but not on goal
I quoted that straight from my Bryne Womens Scorebook
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
In my town the booster club pays someone to keep the stats. As far as goalie saves: For a goalie to be credited with a save , the ball must either touch her stick, her body, or the post. Wide shots are not goalie saves, but they are shots on goal.
Wide shots are not shots on goal, they are shots taken, or attempted, but not on goal
I quoted that straight from my Bryne Womens Scorebook
NCAA rules CLEARLY state that a shot that hits the pipe is NOT recorded as a save
My book must be older than I thought! here is what US Lacrosse has for what a shot is.
A shot may have several outcomes: a goal, a save, a shot that sails wide of the goal or hits a pipe, or is blocked by a defender’s stick. If not a goal or a save, then the subsequent loose ball may be recorded as a GB if possession is gained during live ball play, i.e., a shot that goes out of bounds is not awarded a GB. A shot that hits the pipe is not recorded as a save for the goalie. Both wide and pipe shots are statistically recorded as nothing more than a shot, but it is good information to note that the shot hit the pipe or sailed wide. Note that following a shot, usually one other statistical mark will also be recorded (goal, save, or GB). Remember, a GB will be awarded to any player that gains control of the loose ball while it is in play on the field (live ball play). No player will be awarded a GB statistic for being closest to the point where the ball goes out of play after a shot.
Officially, there is no such thing as a “shot on goal.” All shots are recorded as just that - shots
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
This is actually an interesting comment.
Is there a requirement that the stat book be kept for a certain period of time following a season? At Varsity and JV levels?
Suffolk Division 1 should be a four way race.
The only teams that look to have a chance are Northport, Middle Country, West Islip and Smithtown West. Maybe Smithtown East or HHH can surprise and make a run but thats about it.
Down year for Division 1, no really strong teams.
Division 2 looks to have much stronger teams. Any predictions?
I hope my town and the booster club reads - Yesterdays games in Nassau had the strong Manhasset team winning 16-5 with 11 goal scorers and their high scorer had 3! Wantagh another top team 14 - 4 over Farmingdale this year had 9 goal scorers. Long Beach who isn't a top team had a layup game winning 17-1 but has 10 different goal scorers. Lots of girls on those sidelines that get to touch the ball and contribute. When you look to Suffolk its a different story with many teams having their top girls score 6, 7, 8+ goals in some blowouts
Suffolk Division 1 should be a four way race.
The only teams that look to have a chance are Northport, Middle Country, West Islip and Smithtown West. Maybe Smithtown East or HHH can surprise and make a run but thats about it.
Down year for Division 1, no really strong teams.
Division 2 looks to have much stronger teams. Any predictions?
Smithtown East will be right there. Smithtown West lost a tight one vs Northport. Ward Melville on outside looking in.
Still think it will be Middle Country vs West Islip in Finals.
D2 - Huntington, Eastport, Hauppauge (Eastport beat Hauppauge 10-8 last week) and Sayville will beat each other up and make for exciting Semi Finals and Finals.
D3 - BBP and Mt. Sinai with maybe a scare from SWR.
I hope my town and the booster club reads - Yesterdays games in Nassau had the strong Manhasset team winning 16-5 with 11 goal scorers and their high scorer had 3! Wantagh another top team 14 - 4 over Farmingdale this year had 9 goal scorers. Long Beach who isn't a top team had a layup game winning 17-1 but has 10 different goal scorers. Lots of girls on those sidelines that get to touch the ball and contribute. When you look to Suffolk its a different story with many teams having their top girls score 6, 7, 8+ goals in some blowouts
This is a great point...plus in most of those games you will notice a very lopsided halftime score followed up by a low scoring and very even scoring second half.
Suffolk Division 1 should be a four way race.
The only teams that look to have a chance are Northport, Middle Country, West Islip and Smithtown West. Maybe Smithtown East or HHH can surprise and make a run but thats about it.
Down year for Division 1, no really strong teams.
Division 2 looks to have much stronger teams. Any predictions?
Conference "A' in Nassau is even weaker...
Suffolk Division 1 should be a four way race.
The only teams that look to have a chance are Northport, Middle Country, West Islip and Smithtown West. Maybe Smithtown East or HHH can surprise and make a run but thats about it.
Down year for Division 1, no really strong teams.
Division 2 looks to have much stronger teams. Any predictions?
Smithtown East will be right there. Smithtown West lost a tight one vs Northport. Ward Melville on outside looking in.
Still think it will be Middle Country vs West Islip in Finals.
D2 - Huntington, Eastport, Hauppauge (Eastport beat Hauppauge 10-8 last week) and Sayville will beat each other up and make for exciting Semi Finals and Finals.
D3 - BBP and Mt. Sinai with maybe a scare from SWR.
How many teams in each league make the playoffs?
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
In my town the booster club pays someone to keep the stats. As far as goalie saves: For a goalie to be credited with a save , the ball must either touch her stick, her body, or the post. Wide shots are not goalie saves, but they are shots on goal.
Wide shots are not shots on goal, they are shots taken, or attempted, but not on goal
I quoted that straight from my Bryne Womens Scorebook
NCAA rules CLEARLY state that a shot that hits the pipe is NOT recorded as a save
But it is a Goalies best friend
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
In my town the booster club pays someone to keep the stats. As far as goalie saves: For a goalie to be credited with a save , the ball must either touch her stick, her body, or the post. Wide shots are not goalie saves, but they are shots on goal.
No dispute there. As a goalie mom, it's MY best friend too (my heart's best friend in really close games!)
Wide shots are not shots on goal, they are shots taken, or attempted, but not on goal
I quoted that straight from my Bryne Womens Scorebook
NCAA rules CLEARLY state that a shot that hits the pipe is NOT recorded as a save
But it is a Goalies best friend
Winning teams report the stats and give game recaps.
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
In my town the booster club pays someone to keep the stats. As far as goalie saves: For a goalie to be credited with a save , the ball must either touch her stick, her body, or the post. Wide shots are not goalie saves, but they are shots on goal.
Wide shots are not shots on goal, they are shots taken, or attempted, but not on goal
I quoted that straight from my Bryne Womens Scorebook
That's ridiculous that it would say "wide" shot is a shot "on goal". They're complete opposites!
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
Unfortunately Stats are usually kept by High School Girls who really don't know the game. Also I think the responsibility to
report and stats goes to the Home team.
Winning team reports the stats, and it is both team coaches responsibility to verify the information. This is not always done but should be, especially when students keep the book.
Suffolk Division 1 should be a four way race.
The only teams that look to have a chance are Northport, Middle Country, West Islip and Smithtown West. Maybe Smithtown East or HHH can surprise and make a run but thats about it.
Down year for Division 1, no really strong teams.
Division 2 looks to have much stronger teams. Any predictions?
Smithtown East??? They lost to SWR who are horrible. Swr is Division 2 small school also. Prob no cuts at tryout. But maybe above poster correct. Div 2 stronger. muB
who reports the box scores to Newsday,the padding of goalie stats is out of hand. What do they do count missed shots as saves?
Unfortunately Stats are usually kept by High School Girls who really don't know the game. Also I think the responsibility to
report and stats goes to the Home team.
Winning team reports the stats, and it is both team coaches responsibility to verify the information. This is not always done but should be, especially when students keep the book.
My kids have been on teams where a parent kept the book. That was a travesty.
You know nothing about LI Girls lacrosse if you think the two girls from "the losing team" needed to pad their stats. They are both very accomplished players with the one being a top 5 LI player.
Part of being a top player is helping those around you get better. 7 goals 4 assists and 5 goals 1 assist are impressive numbers. How do their teammates feel? Did they learn anything positive from playing in that game? What message is the coach sending to the rest of the girls on the team? Win at all cost? What are they going to do when these two girls graduate?
Glad my kid is not part of that program!
Glad to see WBab spread the ball around yesterday. Nice job coach! The program will be better off looking to play this way. The other way didn't work when Shannon was there, when Esposito was there or now.
Good luck the rest of the way out!
Team manager should keep game book
Easy bro! SWR is not horrible...they beat Rocky Point. Give coaching staff at SWR credit. Smithtown East will get it together.
Team manager should keep game book
On HS teams ? No such thing as a manager, assistant coach maybe.
Team manager should keep game book
On HS teams ? No such thing as a manager, assistant coach maybe.
I've never seen one on a girls' team.
Suffolk Division 1 should be a four way race.
The only teams that look to have a chance are Northport, Middle Country, West Islip and Smithtown West. Maybe Smithtown East or HHH can surprise and make a run but thats about it.
Down year for Division 1, no really strong teams.
Division 2 looks to have much stronger teams. Any predictions?
Smithtown East??? They lost to SWR who are horrible. Swr is Division 2 small school also. Prob no cuts at tryout. But maybe above poster correct. Div 2 stronger. muB
First off, I am not a SWR parent but my daughters have played various sports, including lax, with SWR girls for a number of years. Second, if you do not know the program, don't make stupid comments. While SWR just missed the playoffs last year, prior to that they lost in the counties, won a LI title and won a state title in 2012 and four other state titles in the 5 years prior. They are also 3-1 this year with their only loss a 2 goal loss to Haup.
Now if you said that Mt Sinai stinks, you might have something! Yes I am kidding so I don't need any MS parents going crazy.
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
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Two easy games today for Manhasset and CSH. Manhasset has 10 different goal scorers and CSH has the same 4 or 5. Some coaches love having some kids pad stats. Share the ball
Suffolk Division 1 should be a four way race.
The only teams that look to have a chance are Northport, Middle Country, West Islip and Smithtown West. Maybe Smithtown East or HHH can surprise and make a run but thats about it.
Down year for Division 1, no really strong teams.
Division 2 looks to have much stronger teams. Any predictions?
Smithtown East??? They lost to SWR who are horrible. Swr is Division 2 small school also. Prob no cuts at tryout. But maybe above poster correct. Div 2 stronger. muB
First off, I am not a SWR parent but my daughters have played various sports, including lax, with SWR girls for a number of years. Second, if you do not know the program, don't make stupid comments. While SWR just missed the playoffs last year, prior to that they lost in the counties, won a LI title and won a state title in 2012 and four other state titles in the 5 years prior. They are also 3-1 this year with their only loss a 2 goal loss to Haup.
Now if you said that Mt Sinai stinks, you might have something! Yes I am kidding so I don't need any MS parents going crazy.
They made playoffs last year, lost to Mt Sinai
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
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They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round.
Two easy games today for Manhasset and CSH. Manhasset has 10 different goal scorers and CSH has the same 4 or 5. Some coaches love having some kids pad stats. Share the ball
Folks, Manhasset is a machine. No one in Nassau/Suffolk can touch them. Looking to see game vs GC.
CSH, not so sure. They had a couple of relatively close games vs opponents I thought they would have blown out. (Plainedge and Massapequa) They play Hauppauge in Suffolk next week. Should be a good test.
Sure Manhasset has the studs but that's because they play as a team even at the PAL level. They keep kids involved and don't build teams around single players with crazy parents pushing them to pad stats regardless of how it affects the team.
The Newsday stat leaders are rarely on teams that win anything meaningful except getting those players individual end of season awards. But that's all they want, that and to commit in 8th grade!
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
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They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round.
Jack A--
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
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They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round.
Jack A--
Thanks for the retort Mr. A
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
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They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round.
How are you qualified to make this comment??
Sure Manhasset has the studs but that's because they play as a team even at the PAL level. They keep kids involved and don't build teams around single players with crazy parents pushing them to pad stats regardless of how it affects the team.
The Newsday stat leaders are rarely on teams that win anything meaningful except getting those players individual end of season awards. But that's all they want, that and to commit in 8th grade!
I agree. Sometimes it feels like if you have not made a verbal by summer of sophomore year you're doomed. Then again I know some verbals that won't be able to get into their choice because of grades. How important are stats in high school? Do college coaches look at them? Do they look at awards? Also when contacting a college do you call coach or assistant coach? Thank you
Sure Manhasset has the studs but that's because they play as a team even at the PAL level. They keep kids involved and don't build teams around single players with crazy parents pushing them to pad stats regardless of how it affects the team.
The Newsday stat leaders are rarely on teams that win anything meaningful except getting those players individual end of season awards. But that's all they want, that and to commit in 8th grade!
I agree. Sometimes it feels like if you have not made a verbal by summer of sophomore year you're doomed. Then again I know some verbals that won't be able to get into their choice because of grades. How important are stats in high school? Do college coaches look at them? Do they look at awards? Also when contacting a college do you call coach or assistant coach? Thank you
DD verbally committed to a top 20 division 1 school and they did not ask any questions about her high school career. They watched her over the summer, she attended their prospect day and that was all they needed. Parents get so crazy about the high schools when coaches are even attending games nor do they talk to high school coaches. They want to see you in the summer, in the fall, by video or on their campus. That is the bottom line. As far as contacting send emails to all coaches/call all coaches. You most likely will not get them directly with first contact but definitely do all.
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
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They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round.
How are you qualified to make this comment??
Seen them play twice this season. Officiated them in the fall and last spring. Coached against them last fall. Have had at least one my daughters that has played against them over the past 6 years. And, an overall knowledge of the game. The playoff teams in D3 from last year are markedly better than them this year too. They are the third or fourth team talent wise behind Mt. Sinai and BBP.
On behalf of the band, I hope I passed the audition....
Both those close games had all subs in
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
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They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round.
How are you qualified to make this comment??
Seen them play twice this season. Officiated them in the fall and last spring. Coached against them last fall. Have had at least one my daughters that has played against them over the past 6 years. And, an overall knowledge of the game. The playoff teams in D3 from last year are markedly better than them this year too. They are the third or fourth team talent wise behind Mt. Sinai and BBP.
On behalf of the band, I hope I passed the audition....
As an official it's disrespectful to publish the comments you did. As a coach it's disrespectful to publish the comments you did. As a parent it's disrespectful to publish the comments you did. Those are the things you said you were right?
As a US Lacrosse Director I have a problem with your coaching and officiating aliases. As a fellow parent I'm disappointed in you. As a moderator I know who you are and what town your from. I suggest you think twice before you continue.
You and the band are fired. Literally Coach or should I say Mr. Official. Enjoy the Motor Inn...know what I mean?
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
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They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round.
How are you qualified to make this comment??
Seen them play twice this season. Officiated them in the fall and last spring. Coached against them last fall. Have had at least one my daughters that has played against them over the past 6 years. And, an overall knowledge of the game. The playoff teams in D3 from last year are markedly better than them this year too. They are the third or fourth team talent wise behind Mt. Sinai and BBP.
On behalf of the band, I hope I passed the audition....
As an official it's disrespectful to publish the comments you did. As a coach it's disrespectful to publish the comments you did. As a parent it's disrespectful to publish the comments you did. Those are the things you said you were right?
As a US Lacrosse Director I have a problem with your coaching and officiating aliases. As a fellow parent I'm disappointed in you. As a moderator I know who you are and what town your from. I suggest you think twice before you continue.
You and the band are fired. Literally Coach or should I say Mr. Official. Enjoy the Motor Inn...know what I mean?
BRAVO HOP
Team manager should keep game book
On HS teams ? No such thing as a manager, assistant coach maybe.
Our HS has a Team Manager. They have NO idea what they are doing and do report scoring/does the book. The coaches should do this and get it right. In 4 games almost everyone is wrong. Coaches should be proactive in making corrections as well when they knowit is wrong. Our coach does nothing about that either.
And there is no D3, I assume you meant Class C but then again, I forgot that they made the playoffs last year in class C.
Anyway, the name MR. Official reminds me of the Mr. Manager bit in Arrested Development.
BTW I am glad that some of the negativity is being filtered out and people are getting called out on nasty comments!
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
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They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round.
How are you qualified to make this comment??
Seen them play twice this season. Officiated them in the fall and last spring. Coached against them last fall. Have had at least one my daughters that has played against them over the past 6 years. And, an overall knowledge of the game. The playoff teams in D3 from last year are markedly better than them this year too. They are the third or fourth team talent wise behind Mt. Sinai and BBP.
On behalf of the band, I hope I passed the audition....
As an official it's disrespectful to publish the comments you did. As a coach it's disrespectful to publish the comments you did. As a parent it's disrespectful to publish the comments you did. Those are the things you said you were right?
As a US Lacrosse Director I have a problem with your coaching and officiating aliases. As a fellow parent I'm disappointed in you. As a moderator I know who you are and what town your from. I suggest you think twice before you continue.
You and the band are fired. Literally Coach or should I say Mr. Official. Enjoy the Motor Inn...know what I mean?
Commack?
Team manager should keep game book
On HS teams ? No such thing as a manager, assistant coach maybe.
Our HS has a Team Manager. They have NO idea what they are doing and do report scoring/does the book. The coaches should do this and get it right. In 4 games almost everyone is wrong. Coaches should be proactive in making corrections as well when they knowit is wrong. Our coach does nothing about that either.
Besides the fact that coaches are too busy to do this during games, it's a sad fact that some of them have vested interests in padding stats, too. Gotta make sure the player you're promoting has the numbers and gets the post-season awards. Bitter, yes, but I've been around HS sports for ten years now and I've seen it. And don't think it ends in college because I've seen stats padded there, too, just to make sure a high-profile player's stats remain in the national ranking. That's when I learned you can get an assist when you were several touches away from the ball. Sarcasm intended.
Team manager should keep game book
On HS teams ? No such thing as a manager, assistant coach maybe.
Our HS has a Team Manager. They have NO idea what they are doing and do report scoring/does the book. The coaches should do this and get it right. In 4 games almost everyone is wrong. Coaches should be proactive in making corrections as well when they knowit is wrong. Our coach does nothing about that either.
Besides the fact that coaches are too busy to do this during games, it's a sad fact that some of them have vested interests in padding stats, too. Gotta make sure the player you're promoting has the numbers and gets the post-season awards. Bitter, yes, but I've been around HS sports for ten years now and I've seen it. And don't think it ends in college because I've seen stats padded there, too, just to make sure a high-profile player's stats remain in the national ranking. That's when I learned you can get an assist when you were several touches away from the ball. Sarcasm intended.
Its very simple. Just pay a teacher to take the stats for your team.
Sure Manhasset has the studs but that's because they play as a team even at the PAL level. They keep kids involved and don't build teams around single players with crazy parents pushing them to pad stats regardless of how it affects the team.
The Newsday stat leaders are rarely on teams that win anything meaningful except getting those players individual end of season awards. But that's all they want, that and to commit in 8th grade!
I agree. Sometimes it feels like if you have not made a verbal by summer of sophomore year you're doomed. Then again I know some verbals that won't be able to get into their choice because of grades. How important are stats in high school? Do college coaches look at them? Do they look at awards? Also when contacting a college do you call coach or assistant coach? Thank you
DD verbally committed to a top 20 division 1 school and they did not ask any questions about her high school career. They watched her over the summer, she attended their prospect day and that was all they needed. Parents get so crazy about the high schools when coaches are even attending games nor do they talk to high school coaches. They want to see you in the summer, in the fall, by video or on their campus. That is the bottom line. As far as contacting send emails to all coaches/call all coaches. You most likely will not get them directly with first contact but definitely do all.
You are right the school teams mean nothing to the college coaches however, parents start padding the summer team resume with made varsity in 7th grade, all county in 8th, all state in 9th etc. Those awards are purely political and a result of stat padding but they are on their bio's just like it will be when its on their college bio page. So if HS means nothing to college coaches then who does it mean something to? Travel Parents!
Sure Manhasset has the studs but that's because they play as a team even at the PAL level. They keep kids involved and don't build teams around single players with crazy parents pushing them to pad stats regardless of how it affects the team.
The Newsday stat leaders are rarely on teams that win anything meaningful except getting those players individual end of season awards. But that's all they want, that and to commit in 8th grade!
I agree. Sometimes it feels like if you have not made a verbal by summer of sophomore year you're doomed. Then again I know some verbals that won't be able to get into their choice because of grades. How important are stats in high school? Do college coaches look at them? Do they look at awards? Also when contacting a college do you call coach or assistant coach? Thank you
DD verbally committed to a top 20 division 1 school and they did not ask any questions about her high school career. They watched her over the summer, she attended their prospect day and that was all they needed. Parents get so crazy about the high schools when coaches are even attending games nor do they talk to high school coaches. They want to see you in the summer, in the fall, by video or on their campus. That is the bottom line. As far as contacting send emails to all coaches/call all coaches. You most likely will not get them directly with first contact but definitely do all.
You are right the school teams mean nothing to the college coaches however, parents start padding the summer team resume with made varsity in 7th grade, all county in 8th, all state in 9th etc. Those awards are purely political and a result of stat padding but they are on their bio's just like it will be when its on their college bio page. So if HS means nothing to college coaches then who does it mean something to? Travel Parents!
Boy do you have a complex. Sounds like you have a ready made excuse for everything.
Sure Manhasset has the studs but that's because they play as a team even at the PAL level. They keep kids involved and don't build teams around single players with crazy parents pushing them to pad stats regardless of how it affects the team.
The Newsday stat leaders are rarely on teams that win anything meaningful except getting those players individual end of season awards. But that's all they want, that and to commit in 8th grade!
I agree. Sometimes it feels like if you have not made a verbal by summer of sophomore year you're doomed. Then again I know some verbals that won't be able to get into their choice because of grades. How important are stats in high school? Do college coaches look at them? Do they look at awards? Also when contacting a college do you call coach or assistant coach? Thank you
DD verbally committed to a top 20 division 1 school and they did not ask any questions about her high school career. They watched her over the summer, she attended their prospect day and that was all they needed. Parents get so crazy about the high schools when coaches are even attending games nor do they talk to high school coaches. They want to see you in the summer, in the fall, by video or on their campus. That is the bottom line. As far as contacting send emails to all coaches/call all coaches. You most likely will not get them directly with first contact but definitely do all.
You are right the school teams mean nothing to the college coaches however, parents start padding the summer team resume with made varsity in 7th grade, all county in 8th, all state in 9th etc. Those awards are purely political and a result of stat padding but they are on their bio's just like it will be when its on their college bio page. So if HS means nothing to college coaches then who does it mean something to? Travel Parents!
Boy do you have a complex. Sounds like you have a ready made excuse for everything.
Actually the poster doesn't have a complex but a pretty accurate view of the situation. I agree with some points. I disagree that awards are purely political. The awards are not PURELY political at all. Politics may have a hand sometimes but talent always wins in the end. Club lax however, has certainly become the place college coaches go to shop and buy.
Too bad some immature people can only muster personal attacks and name calling.
If you don't think over zealous travel parents and girls take advantage of being on weak HS teams with weak HS coaches to push their own recruiting agendas by padding their stats then you haven't been watching girls HS lacrosse lately.
Take a look at the Nassau county scoring leaders - players from Island trees, Wheatley, Divsion, PLanedge, Herricks none of these teams ever win anything. Where are the GC kids? the Manhasset kids? Those teams play as a full multi line unit and have been since grade school. I don't think that's an excuse but a fact
If you don't think over zealous travel parents and girls take advantage of being on weak HS teams with weak HS coaches to push their own recruiting agendas by padding their stats then you haven't been watching girls HS lacrosse lately.
Take a look at the Nassau county scoring leaders - players from Island trees, Wheatley, Divsion, PLanedge, Herricks none of these teams ever win anything. Where are the GC kids? the Manhasset kids? Those teams play as a full multi line unit and have been since grade school. I don't think that's an excuse but a fact
I can tell you with certainty that the kids at the schools you mentioned are not getting any advantage with college coaches due to their stats. Regardless of your accusations of "padding stats" or not. I know many college coaches and have been around the game for 40 years and am actively involved today with recruiting and governing. College coaches look at how the kid plays and how they will fit into their system. They also want to see the athletic ability and IQ more so than the lax ability and stats.
Because your opinion differs doesn't mean it's correct and I will go with the words and opinions I hear first hand from these coaches rather than emotional opinions from an anonymous parent any day.
To the parents of kids who don't get the stats and glory I will say keep pushing yourself 110% and fight for the ground balls and be a vocal and positive visible presence on the field. Do well in the classroom as well because these are the things that get you recruited.
If you don't think over zealous travel parents and girls take advantage of being on weak HS teams with weak HS coaches to push their own recruiting agendas by padding their stats then you haven't been watching girls HS lacrosse lately.
Take a look at the Nassau county scoring leaders - players from Island trees, Wheatley, Divsion, PLanedge, Herricks none of these teams ever win anything. Where are the GC kids? the Manhasset kids? Those teams play as a full multi line unit and have been since grade school. I don't think that's an excuse but a fact
I can tell you with certainty that the kids at the schools you mentioned are not getting any advantage with college coaches due to their stats. Regardless of your accusations of "padding stats" or not. I know many college coaches and have been around the game for 40 years and am actively involved today with recruiting and governing. College coaches look at how the kid plays and how they will fit into their system. They also want to see the athletic ability and IQ more so than the lax ability and stats.
Because your opinion differs doesn't mean it's correct and I will go with the words and opinions I hear first hand from these coaches rather than emotional opinions from an anonymous parent any day.
To the parents of kids who don't get the stats and glory I will say keep pushing yourself 110% and fight for the ground balls and be a vocal and positive visible presence on the field. Excel in the classroom as well because these are the things that get you recruited.
I agree whole heartedly college coaches don't care so why pad the stats? Why not share the ball so the team becomes stronger?4vK
If you don't think over zealous travel parents and girls take advantage of being on weak HS teams with weak HS coaches to push their own recruiting agendas by padding their stats then you haven't been watching girls HS lacrosse lately.
Take a look at the Nassau county scoring leaders - players from Island trees, Wheatley, Divsion, PLanedge, Herricks none of these teams ever win anything. Where are the GC kids? the Manhasset kids? Those teams play as a full multi line unit and have been since grade school. I don't think that's an excuse but a fact
I can tell you with certainty that the kids at the schools you mentioned are not getting any advantage with college coaches due to their stats. Regardless of your accusations of "padding stats" or not. I know many college coaches and have been around the game for 40 years and am actively involved today with recruiting and governing. College coaches look at how the kid plays and how they will fit into their system. They also want to see the athletic ability and IQ more so than the lax ability and stats.
Because your opinion differs doesn't mean it's correct and I will go with the words and opinions I hear first hand from these coaches rather than emotional opinions from an anonymous parent any day.
To the parents of kids who don't get the stats and glory I will say keep pushing yourself 110% and fight for the ground balls and be a vocal and positive visible presence on the field. Excel in the classroom as well because these are the things that get you recruited.
I agree whole heartedly college coaches don't care so why pad the stats? Why not share the ball so the team becomes stronger?4vK
Here are some reasons: name in the paper, player/parents believe numbers tell the story, selfishness, game IQ that doesn't allow them to see the field and open players... I'm sure others can add their observations.
If you don't think over zealous travel parents and girls take advantage of being on weak HS teams with weak HS coaches to push their own recruiting agendas by padding their stats then you haven't been watching girls HS lacrosse lately.
Take a look at the Nassau county scoring leaders - players from Island trees, Wheatley, Divsion, PLanedge, Herricks none of these teams ever win anything. Where are the GC kids? the Manhasset kids? Those teams play as a full multi line unit and have been since grade school. I don't think that's an excuse but a fact
I can tell you with certainty that the kids at the schools you mentioned are not getting any advantage with college coaches due to their stats. Regardless of your accusations of "padding stats" or not. I know many college coaches and have been around the game for 40 years and am actively involved today with recruiting and governing. College coaches look at how the kid plays and how they will fit into their system. They also want to see the athletic ability and IQ more so than the lax ability and stats.
Because your opinion differs doesn't mean it's correct and I will go with the words and opinions I hear first hand from these coaches rather than emotional opinions from an anonymous parent any day.
To the parents of kids who don't get the stats and glory I will say keep pushing yourself 110% and fight for the ground balls and be a vocal and positive visible presence on the field. Excel in the classroom as well because these are the things that get you recruited.
I agree whole heartedly college coaches don't care so why pad the stats? Why not share the ball so the team becomes stronger?4vK
Here are some reasons: name in the paper, player/parents believe numbers tell the story, selfishness, game IQ that doesn't allow them to see the field and open players... I'm sure others can add their observations.
BINGO POWDER! Travel Lacrosse has taken a team game and made it very selfish. Even the travel parents will tell you it's not about their summer team records but only about getting their daughter seen and committed. If it's all about me in the summer, why wouldn't it be all about me on the HS team? Answer is it is for many of the kids and its hurting the sport. It's burying and driving out the bottom 90% of players while the top 10% pad those stats in meaningless games that college coaches don't care about.
A few observations that none of you will agree with or believe. My daughter was probably one of those stat paddlers you all detest . Played on a middle of the road team at best , 2 years above 500 hundred record , 2 years below . On average probably had 6 goals for every 4 assists. Never scored more than 4 goals against a team they would beat by more than ten. Simply put she got a lot of points because her team was not very good and they looked to her on offense , be it for a goal or assist . As far as colleges , they did ask for high school stats , how much they cared I don't know . As far as grades , most if not all including a few top ten academic schools just cared that she was over the minimum they needed to get her in , it was actually disappointing in that she was and still is a very good student (top of her high school class) . Believe it or not some of these stat padders are just trying to win and if having the ball in their stick is tbe best way to do that so be it . See it in basketball all the time , you have a few shooters then the other role players , is what it is .
If you don't think over zealous travel parents and girls take advantage of being on weak HS teams with weak HS coaches to push their own recruiting agendas by padding their stats then you haven't been watching girls HS lacrosse lately.
Take a look at the Nassau county scoring leaders - players from Island trees, Wheatley, Divsion, PLanedge, Herricks none of these teams ever win anything. Where are the GC kids? the Manhasset kids? Those teams play as a full multi line unit and have been since grade school. I don't think that's an excuse but a fact
I can tell you with certainty that the kids at the schools you mentioned are not getting any advantage with college coaches due to their stats. Regardless of your accusations of "padding stats" or not. I know many college coaches and have been around the game for 40 years and am actively involved today with recruiting and governing. College coaches look at how the kid plays and how they will fit into their system. They also want to see the athletic ability and IQ more so than the lax ability and stats.
Because your opinion differs doesn't mean it's correct and I will go with the words and opinions I hear first hand from these coaches rather than emotional opinions from an anonymous parent any day.
To the parents of kids who don't get the stats and glory I will say keep pushing yourself 110% and fight for the ground balls and be a vocal and positive visible presence on the field. Do well in the classroom as well because these are the things that get you recruited.
I hope you're right. It just seems like coaches ( travel included) play the girls who go to the goal the most, even if they are defenders and don't pass to open players. I think good field vision is important but it often goes unnoticed.
Can't have it both ways, if coaches allow stat builders even in blow out games, then don't act shocked on why the bench keeps getting smaller and smaller.
Hs managers are usually a student
If you want the stats done correctly get in touch with your booster club president & Ask him to hire someone. You can usually get a teacher to take the stats for a reasonable amount.
If you want the stats done correctly get in touch with your booster club president & Ask him to hire someone. You can usually get a teacher to take the stats for a reasonable amount.
Who cares except the stat padders parents? I'm pretty sure they get who won and loss right. Me Me Me
If you want the stats done correctly get in touch with your booster club president & Ask him to hire someone. You can usually get a teacher to take the stats for a reasonable amount.
Who cares except the stat padders parents? I'm pretty sure they get who won and loss right. Me Me Me
My town pays a teacher and the stats are kept accurately with no stat padders on the team .
Can anyone tell me where to find info regarding the "washout" rate of D1 lax players?
If you look at many D1 rosters, there seems to be a very small number of juniors and seniors on the team. Have they all left the program because they finally realized that academics are why they went to college?
Playing club now?
Have the students and parents now realized that the "cool aid" was actually poisoned. That they likely got little, or no athletic money to go to a D1 program, but they did buy the sweatshirt. And now have huge student loans?
Anyone shed some light on the mis-marketing of a sport these girls love.
The only league that might be weaker than Suffolk Division 1 Girls is Suffolk Boys League 1.
Why so weak?
Not that difficult they usually get the goal scorers correct so I assume we are talking about assists and saves. Just hold your coaches accountable, they are ultimately the ones who are in charge of making sure the book is correct.If you think something truly underhanded is going on then film the game and give the coach a copy for their review.
The only league that might be weaker than Suffolk Division 1 Girls is Suffolk Boys League 1.
Why so weak?
Division 2 has more affluent school districts, parents can pay for travel, camps, clinics, nice sticks, private lessons. This sport takes money, natural athleticism will only take you so far.
Can anyone tell me where to find info regarding the "washout" rate of D1 lax players?
If you look at many D1 rosters, there seems to be a very small number of juniors and seniors on the team. Have they all left the program because they finally realized that academics are why they went to college?
Playing club now?
Have the students and parents now realized that the "cool aid" was actually poisoned. That they likely got little, or no athletic money to go to a D1 program, but they did buy the sweatshirt. And now have huge student loans?
Anyone shed some light on the mis-marketing of a sport these girls love.
Bald Bear has done some nice work tracking players and has it at about a 50% wash out. In the Junior and Senior years when kids aren't getting to touch the ball (high schools and PAL take note) kids quit for school, internships, social commits or because they just don't love the game as much as their parents thought. A 20 year old has a louder voice about what they want to do compared to a 14 year old travel player in the back seat being driven to MD on the summer weekends. Kids just want to play and D1 sports are a fulltime job. When D1 student athletes say they spend more time on sports than studies that is a problem!
Maybe Bald Bear can comment?
If you don't think over zealous travel parents and girls take advantage of being on weak HS teams with weak HS coaches to push their own recruiting agendas by padding their stats then you haven't been watching girls HS lacrosse lately.
Take a look at the Nassau county scoring leaders - players from Island trees, Wheatley, Divsion, PLanedge, Herricks none of these teams ever win anything. Where are the GC kids? the Manhasset kids? Those teams play as a full multi line unit and have been since grade school. I don't think that's an excuse but a fact
Your a pin-head, first of all its early in the season and you don't know the "facts". Every town/school district is different and ability levels are different some play the sport more seriously than others so stats may be slanted one way or another, but to bash those kids for doing their best is silly. Is some of it selfish motivation maybe but maybe just maybe some of those kids enjoy playing and have better ability than others. If you want facts go and ask those coaches about each individual maybe he/she can shine a little light on the situation. To compare some of those schools to perennial powers is ridiculous but there are talented kids playing all over Long Island. Here is a fact last year of the top 20 point getters only 3 were from Nassau all of which are or will be playing D1 lacrosse, all of these girls on the list including Suffolk and Private schools are motivated some with good reason others not so much. Basically it's not for us to judge, worry about your own child and enjoy watching them play hopefully they are enjoying it as well.
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
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They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round.
How are you qualified to make this comment??
Seen them play twice this season. Officiated them in the fall and last spring. Coached against them last fall. Have had at least one my daughters that has played against them over the past 6 years. And, an overall knowledge of the game. The playoff teams in D3 from last year are markedly better than them this year too. They are the third or fourth team talent wise behind Mt. Sinai and BBP.
On behalf of the band, I hope I passed the audition....
While I disagree with the above poster and think SWR team is possibly top ten in all Suffolk ,a big part of that being one of the top goalies, I think he should have the right to his opinion ,did not single out any kid etc..Seems to me you may have outed this guy as I think I may know who he is partially by his own comments and partially by the Hop
In Nassau the reason why GC and Sett go deep every year is because they run out multiple strong lines. Teams that get all their points from a few players never do anything come playoff time. It's a team game when played the right way.
I had a problem,with his first comment which was"Smithtown East??? They lost to SWR who are horrible" and I gave my answer. Wouldn't you expect more from coach and ref than they are horrible?
Record is deceiving. They have a weak schedule due to poor performance last year. And basically same team minus the all American kid. Added non impact freshman except for yj kid who can be an impact player. And great goalie. But that's not enough. Great program a few years ago. No more. Sad
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They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round.
How are you qualified to make this comment??
Seen them play twice this season. Officiated them in the fall and last spring. Coached against them last fall. Have had at least one my daughters that has played against them over the past 6 years. And, an overall knowledge of the game. The playoff teams in D3 from last year are markedly better than them this year too. They are the third or fourth team talent wise behind Mt. Sinai and BBP.
On behalf of the band, I hope I passed the audition....
While I disagree with the above poster and think SWR team is possibly top ten in all Suffolk ,a big part of that being one of the top goalies, I think he should have the right to his opinion ,did not single out any kid etc..Seems to me you may have outed this guy as I think I may know who he is partially by his own comments and partially by the Hop
This poster was addressed by me because if an official says they play dirty don't you think he now has a bias? How can he fairly officiate a game? That's my issue. And Section 11s issue as well.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion except when an official shows his bias. It then becomes an issue of competency. Anyone who has seen SWR play knows they are not horrible. Just ask Smithtown East and Rocky Point. Also they lost to a good Hauppauge team by 2.
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Seen them play twice this season. Officiated them in the fall and last spring. Coached against them last fall. Have had at least one my daughters that has played against them over the past 6 years. And, an overall knowledge of the game. The playoff teams in D3 from last year are markedly better than them this year too. They are the third or fourth team talent wise behind Mt. Sinai and BBP.
On behalf of the band, I hope I passed the audition....
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While I disagree with the above poster and think SWR team is possibly top ten in all Suffolk ,a big part of that being one of the top goalies, I think he should have the right to his opinion ,did not single out any kid etc..Seems to me you may have outed this guy as I think I may know who he is partially by his own comments and partially by the Hop [/quote]
This poster was addressed by me because if an official says they play dirty don't you think he now has a bias? How can he fairly officiate a game? That's my issue. And Section 11s issue as well.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion except when an official shows his bias. It then becomes an issue of competency. Anyone who has seen SWR play knows they are not horrible. Just ask Smithtown East and Rocky Point. Also they lost to a good Hauppauge team by 2.
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Off topic so I will make it my last post about it but to think most refs who have done so for a long time do not have some bias against certain teams is just naďve .They are human so of course they do. My post was really more about its supposed to be an anonymous forum and his opinion should not be censored just because we do not agree with him. You have many who come on here calling whole travel organizations Thugs etc., while their opinion may be juvenile it should not be banned.
the reason is nothing more than better players. Every team would run out multiple players if they had them.
How are you qualified to make this comment??
Seen them play twice this season. Officiated them in the fall and last spring. Coached against them last fall. Have had at least one my daughters that has played against them over the past 6 years. And, an overall knowledge of the game. The playoff teams in D3 from last year are markedly better than them this year too. They are the third or fourth team talent wise behind Mt. Sinai and BBP.
On behalf of the band, I hope I passed the audition....
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While I disagree with the above poster and think SWR team is possibly top ten in all Suffolk ,a big part of that being one of the top goalies, I think he should have the right to his opinion ,did not single out any kid etc..Seems to me you may have outed this guy as I think I may know who he is partially by his own comments and partially by the Hop [/quote]
This poster was addressed by me because if an official says they play dirty don't you think he now has a bias? How can he fairly officiate a game? That's my issue. And Section 11s issue as well.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion except when an official shows his bias. It then becomes an issue of competency. Anyone who has seen SWR play knows they are not horrible. Just ask Smithtown East and Rocky Point. Also they lost to a good Hauppauge team by 2.
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Off topic so I will make it my last post about it but to think most refs who have done so for a long time do not have some bias against certain teams is just naďve .They are human so of course they do. My post was really more about its supposed to be an anonymous forum and his opinion should not be censored just because we do not agree with him. You have many who come on here calling whole travel organizations Thugs etc., while their opinion may be juvenile it should not be banned. [/quote]
How are you qualified to make this comment??
Seen them play twice this season. Officiated them in the fall and last spring. Coached against them last fall. Have had at least one my daughters that has played against them over the past 6 years. And, an overall knowledge of the game. The playoff teams in D3 from last year are markedly better than them this year too. They are the third or fourth team talent wise behind Mt. Sinai and BBP.
On behalf of the band, I hope I passed the audition....
While I disagree with the above poster and think SWR team is possibly top ten in all Suffolk ,a big part of that being one of the top goalies, I think he should have the right to his opinion ,did not single out any kid etc..Seems to me you may have outed this guy as I think I may know who he is partially by his own comments and partially by the Hop [/quote]
This poster was addressed by me because if an official says they play dirty don't you think he now has a bias? How can he fairly officiate a game? That's my issue. And Section 11s issue as well.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion except when an official shows his bias. It then becomes an issue of competency. Anyone who has seen SWR play knows they are not horrible. Just ask Smithtown East and Rocky Point. Also they lost to a good Hauppauge team by 2.
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Off topic so I will make it my last post about it but to think most refs who have done so for a long time do not have some bias against certain teams is just naďve .They are human so of course they do. My post was really more about its supposed to be an anonymous forum and his opinion should not be censored just because we do not agree with him. You have many who come on here calling whole travel organizations Thugs etc., while their opinion may be juvenile it should not be banned. [/quote]
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How are you qualified to make this comment??
Seen them play twice this season. Officiated them in the fall and last spring. Coached against them last fall. Have had at least one my daughters that has played against them over the past 6 years. And, an overall knowledge of the game. The playoff teams in D3 from last year are markedly better than them this year too. They are the third or fourth team talent wise behind Mt. Sinai and BBP.
On behalf of the band, I hope I passed the audition....
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While I disagree with the above poster and think SWR team is possibly top ten in all Suffolk ,a big part of that being one of the top goalies, I think he should have the right to his opinion ,did not single out any kid etc..Seems to me you may have outed this guy as I think I may know who he is partially by his own comments and partially by the Hop [/quote]
This poster was addressed by me because if an official says they play dirty don't you think he now has a bias? How can he fairly officiate a game? That's my issue. And Section 11s issue as well.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion except when an official shows his bias. It then becomes an issue of competency. Anyone who has seen SWR play knows they are not horrible. Just ask Smithtown East and Rocky Point. Also they lost to a good Hauppauge team by 2.
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Off topic so I will make it my last post about it but to think most refs who have done so for a long time do not have some bias against certain teams is just naďve .They are human so of course they do. My post was really more about its supposed to be an anonymous forum and his opinion should not be censored just because we do not agree with him. You have many who come on here calling whole travel organizations Thugs etc., while their opinion may be juvenile it should not be banned. [/quote]
1-He is an official publishing his bias publicly. Therefor opens himself up for scrutiny personally. Would have not commented if he was just another anonymous pot stirrer.
2-His post was not censored.
3-Other posts calling organizations "thugs" is not even close to the same thing and they are not censored either. Not sure why you chose that word.
4-I am far from naive and the bias officials have will be dealt with on a case by case basis and will not get swept under the rug as in the past. They are charged with calling games fairly not based on a preconceived bias. Obviously.
5-I'm not sure why you would have an issue with an official publicly voicing a bias and getting called out on it. You should be more disturbed with his comments.
the reason is nothing more than better players. Every team would run out multiple players if they had them.
Tell your daughter to pass the ball, I bet you would be surprised
Maybe someone can explain this to me. If you are playing a team that has one or two options on offense, why doesn't a team put a defensive stopper on the girl to negate this girls scoring? Our basketball team does this against other teams and it does have success. Make the girl give up the ball. If you don't have a defensive stopper, double team whenever possible
[/quote] 1-He is an official publishing his bias publicly. Therefor opens himself up for scrutiny personally. Would have not commented if he was just another anonymous pot stirrer.
2-His post was not censored.
3-Other posts calling organizations "thugs" is not even close to the same thing and they are not censored either. Not sure why you chose that word.
4-I am far from naive and the bias officials have will be dealt with on a case by case basis and will not get swept under the rug as in the past. They are charged with calling games fairly not based on a preconceived bias. Obviously.
5-I'm not sure why you would have an issue with an official publicly voicing a bias and getting called out on it. You should be more disturbed with his comments. [/quote]
What exactly are you calling a bias? That they play dirty or that they are not that good? It seems to me that the official's observations would be very reasonable especially insofar as they relate to dirty play.
Bias:
1. a particular tendency, trend, inclination, feeling, or opinion, especially one that is preconceived or unreasoned:
2.unreasonably hostile feelings or opinions about a social group; prejudice:
Listen. Your obviously not getting it. If you think an individual can fairly officiate a game after publicly posting that a specific team is horrible and plays dirty then you my friend are naive.
I'll take this issue with this particular individual from here.
Thanks for your input.
That is exactly what other teams do. Teams that have only one or two offensive options usually don't do well because of that strategy. Those two girls may still get their points but the teams don't normally do well. Take a look at WB. That proves my point.
Listen. Your obviously not getting it. If you think an individual can fairly officiate a game after publicly posting that a specific team is horrible and plays dirty then you my friend are naive.
I'll take this issue with this particular individual from here.
Thanks for your input.
Watch out, it's Hip Hop's point of view or you're wrong (and probably about to be the target of an ad hominem attack). The poster said:
"They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round."
You're the only one who knows what other statements the anonymous official posted, so maybe he used the word "horrible" in another post but not the one you targeted. I don't know anything about SWR, but on it's face this very well could have been a reasoned opinion and, as such, not biased.
Listen. Your obviously not getting it. If you think an individual can fairly officiate a game after publicly posting that a specific team is horrible and plays dirty then you my friend are naive.
I'll take this issue with this particular individual from here.
Thanks for your input.
Watch out, it's Hip Hop's point of view or you're wrong (and probably about to be the target of an ad hominem attack). The poster said:
"They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round."
You're the only one who knows what other statements the anonymous official posted, so maybe he used the word "horrible" in another post but not the one you targeted. I don't know anything about SWR, but on it's face this very well could have been a reasoned opinion and, as such, not biased.
Again if you think an official who posts those words doesn't make them biased I'll refer you to the definition previously posted.
Gotta love the anonymous poster chiming in with comments like they know the score. The offending poster is being dealt with and has not responded publicly because he understands his comment was wrong.
The above reference by anonymous is incomplete and does not include some comments. We track the posts from each user so don't worry about us properly handling inappropriate comments from officials and coaches.
I'm amazed someone is defending an official who published those comments. I will take action each and every time in these instances.
Listen. Your obviously not getting it. If you think an individual can fairly officiate a game after publicly posting that a specific team is horrible and plays dirty then you my friend are naive.
I'll take this issue with this particular individual from here.
Thanks for your input.
Watch out, it's Hip Hop's point of view or you're wrong (and probably about to be the target of an ad hominem attack). The poster said:
"They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round."
You're the only one who knows what other statements the anonymous official posted, so maybe he used the word "horrible" in another post but not the one you targeted. I don't know anything about SWR, but on it's face this very well could have been a reasoned opinion and, as such, not biased.
Again if you think an official who posts those words doesn't make them biased I'll refer you to the definition previously posted.
Gotta love the anonymous poster chiming in with comments like they know the score. The offending poster is being dealt with and has not responded publicly because he understands his comment was wrong.
The above reference by anonymous is incomplete and does not include some comments. We track the posts from each user so don't worry about us properly handling inappropriate comments from officials and coaches.
I'm amazed someone is defending an official who published those comments. I will take action each and every time in these instances.
No need to refer me to the definition, I actually have a grasp on the English language. The operative word is "unreasonably" or "unreasonable".
Personally, I don't think it's nearly as cut and dry as you do based solely on the post that you called out. As I said, you have more information than anyone in the audience about who posts what, so maybe the poster's body of work has you reading in between the lines. Or maybe the full post was truncated, but what was posted could easily be interpreted as a "reasonable" opinion based on an unbiased observation.
Is it the fact that the official has the opinion itself or that he published the opinion that makes him (or her) biased? Couldn't a completely unbiased official form the opinion that a team isn't that good after officiating a couple of games? Or that the team plays dirty? I think that an official would be well-suited to form a reasonable opinion on either topic. Or is just the statement of those beliefs in a semi-public forum makes the official biased?
Maybe Bald Bear can comment?
It is a varied combination of factors, from my experience. There is a direct correlation to academic work and playing time; when playing time is reduced and work load increases there is a tendency to leave a team. Also studying abroad coupled with an internship, which occurs during junior year, is factor.
There are a lot of programs, particularly new D1 programs, that are recruiting a lot of girls. That makes for a lot of players on the sidelines.
Another factor is just growing up. Sorry parents but be aware--social activities, romance, freedom--whatever you want to call it, is going to be a factor.
Listen. Your obviously not getting it. If you think an individual can fairly officiate a game after publicly posting that a specific team is horrible and plays dirty then you my friend are naive.
I'll take this issue with this particular individual from here.
Thanks for your input.
Watch out, it's Hip Hop's point of view or you're wrong (and probably about to be the target of an ad hominem attack). The poster said:
"They are not that good. They play dirty. No need to name call. They will make playoffs and lose in the first round."
You're the only one who knows what other statements the anonymous official posted, so maybe he used the word "horrible" in another post but not the one you targeted. I don't know anything about SWR, but on it's face this very well could have been a reasoned opinion and, as such, not biased.
Again if you think an official who posts those words doesn't make them biased I'll refer you to the definition previously posted.
Gotta love the anonymous poster chiming in with comments like they know the score. The offending poster is being dealt with and has not responded publicly because he understands his comment was wrong.
The above reference by anonymous is incomplete and does not include some comments. We track the posts from each user so don't worry about us properly handling inappropriate comments from officials and coaches.
I'm amazed someone is defending an official who published those comments. I will take action each and every time in these instances.
No need to refer me to the definition, I actually have a grasp on the English language. The operative word is "unreasonably" or "unreasonable".
Personally, I don't think it's nearly as cut and dry as you do based solely on the post that you called out. As I said, you have more information than anyone in the audience about who posts what, so maybe the poster's body of work has you reading in between the lines. Or maybe the full post was truncated, but what was posted could easily be interpreted as a "reasonable" opinion based on an unbiased observation.
Is it the fact that the official has the opinion itself or that he published the opinion that makes him (or her) biased? Couldn't a completely unbiased official form the opinion that a team isn't that good after officiating a couple of games? Or that the team plays dirty? I think that an official would be well-suited to form a reasonable opinion on either topic. Or is just the statement of those beliefs in a semi-public forum makes the official biased?
Feel free to register and message me to discuss more. I appreciate your input and look forward to discussing this further. In closing this topic I will speak to your question by saying it is wrong for an official to publicly classify a team as dirty. Along with the title of official comes responsibility and that type of comment along with others made by that poster are irresponsible for an official to make.
How about having a fantastic college experience overall...from what i see, there are many very young, immature girls with no clue what they really want to study committing to colleges with academic standards that are not always reachable. Couple that with delusional parents....its a sad result.
Maybe Bald Bear can comment?
It is a varied combination of factors, from my experience. There is a direct correlation to academic work and playing time; when playing time is reduced and work load increases there is a tendency to leave a team. Also studying abroad coupled with an internship, which occurs during junior year, is factor.
There are a lot of programs, particularly new D1 programs, that are recruiting a lot of girls. That makes for a lot of players on the sidelines.
Another factor is just growing up. Sorry parents but be aware--social activities, romance, freedom--whatever you want to call it, is going to be a factor.
A Ref is still a human being and has personal beliefs and opinions. Why is this refs opinion on this team deemed wrong by Hop but not the ref that has a bias FOR a team. We have all seen the the ref that will let a highly touted team swing wildly over girls heads and not be called. Why is that better? Is it because they didn't state there opinion publicly? It's common knowledge that the head of the Nassau refs dislikes the top team in the county, is that acceptance based on not posting his opinion on this site? Why not take actions against him Hop?
How about having a fantastic college experience overall...from what i see, there are many very young, immature girls with no clue what they really want to study committing to colleges with academic standards that are not always reachable. Couple that with delusional parents....its a sad result.
Maybe Bald Bear can comment?
It is a varied combination of factors, from my experience. There is a direct correlation to academic work and playing time; when playing time is reduced and work load increases there is a tendency to leave a team. Also studying abroad coupled with an internship, which occurs during junior year, is factor.
There are a lot of programs, particularly new D1 programs, that are recruiting a lot of girls. That makes for a lot of players on the sidelines.
Another factor is just growing up. Sorry parents but be aware--social activities, romance, freedom--whatever you want to call it, is going to be a factor.
Kids changing their majors just to play on some D1 teams is insane. They do bring in a ton of girls each year and only the best of the best are getting meaningful minutes. So you committed to a school and changed your major just to play and now the program owns you and now you aren't getting on the field in JR and SR year so they quit and focus on a major they don't really like or won't be able to use. Ever notice how most D1 rosters don't list majors but D3's do? Big difference between women's studies, communications and engineering
A Ref is still a human being and has personal beliefs and opinions. Why is this refs opinion on this team deemed wrong by Hop but not the ref that has a bias FOR a team. We have all seen the the ref that will let a highly touted team swing wildly over girls heads and not be called. Why is that better? Is it because they didn't state there opinion publicly? It's common knowledge that the head of the Nassau refs dislikes the top team in the county, is that acceptance based on not posting his opinion on this site? Why not take actions against him Hop?
Really??
I have made my point quite clearly. I'm a moderator on this site that's why this ref was called out for his comments.
What's up with Farmingdale this year?
What's up with Farmingdale this year?
Tracy still there? Cant the YJ's make everyone good every year?
Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
it's been beat to death already... 12G and 2A is a good day (right mom and dad)
Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
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Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
Steve Levy, the father of the "leading scorer" is the head coach. 12 goals with 2 assists - come on. So ridiculous that you would let your own kid run up the score like this. Same thing is West babylon - 3 girls accounted for 22 points in total on 17 goals.
Great players make their teammates better.
Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
Steve Levy, the father of the "leading scorer" is the head coach. 12 goals with 2 assists - come on. So ridiculous that you would let your own kid run up the score like this. Same thing is West babylon - 3 girls accounted for 22 points in total on 17 goals.
Great players make their teammates better.
You're the same person who is defending Courtney Fortunato and the other yellowjacket kids when they were doing the same thing. This is an obvious yellow jacket versus Top Guns post. YJ kids have been doing it since the beginning of time because when it comes to all American voting they look at those stats. You need to do better than to single out Topgun kids and shed some light on all of the yellowjacket kids that are doing it this season. You will quickly find it's probably 10 to 1 the amount of yellowjacket kids that are doing it and by the way I understand why they are. It's the system you should have a problem with and the all American standards that are in place and stop singling out the individual kids.
at all divisions mens and womens kids change majors to continue playing. many kids enroll in athletic training and pre physical therapy programs as well as engineering. those are impossible for athletes. practice for teams is in the afternoon. can't be at lax practice and also working for another team as a student trainer. can't be in engineer or pre med labs in the afternoon when you have practice. plain and simple. yes many never play 4 years because playing is a full time job and working is not as much fun as playing because you love it. When not a star or regularly seeing the field the 6am runs and 2 workouts a day aren't so enjoyable.
"Great players make their teammates better" NOT in our town. It's all about the travel girls, their commitments and their points.
The rest are there to watch and hope they can win a turnover because no one shares the ball.
YES they are the best players but when we are up big how about passing?
Kudos to Harborfields who has 17 different players listed in newsday that touched to ball ( in addition to the never mentioned defense) in my opinion that is great coaching.
Kudos to Harborfields who has 17 different players listed in newsday that touched to ball ( in addition to the never mentioned defense) in my opinion that is great coaching.
Babylon also obviously pulls it back a little when teams are overmatched. To the fool trying to make it a YJ , TG thing , you are wrong. A ball hog stat padding player and coach is poor sportsmanship no matter what club. The fact that her daddy encourages this in blowout games is gross , thank goodness my kid plays for a coach who doesn't allow such nonsense . Hopefully the All american evaluators look at the things that make a player great and not the things that make a player a ball hog.Hopefully they look for attack players that can actually use both hands, make a pass and ride .
Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
Steve Levy, the father of the "leading scorer" is the head coach. 12 goals with 2 assists - come on. So ridiculous that you would let your own kid run up the score like this. Same thing is West babylon - 3 girls accounted for 22 points in total on 17 goals.
Great players make their teammates better.
You obviously were not at game. That same kid kid should have had 5 more assists also... She has to make plays.... Some teams are deeper with loads of talent and scorers
Guess the family needed to take it out on someone after getting whooped by the YJ coached MS team by the same score last time out. (not that it is a YJ/TG issue but it is ironic)
Excuses excuses. Here is my beef, our towns program is in shambles yet whether our varsity wins by 10 or lose by 10 the same 3 or 4 girls get 95% of the points. Coincidence that they all play travel? No one else on the roster is worthy of receiving a pass?
This early commitment, 7th grade call up, Newsday stat leader crap is ruining this game!
Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
Steve Levy, the father of the "leading scorer" is the head coach. 12 goals with 2 assists - come on. So ridiculous that you would let your own kid run up the score like this. Same thing is West babylon - 3 girls accounted for 22 points in total on 17 goals.
Great players make their teammates better.
You obviously were not at game. That same kid kid should have had 5 more assists also... She has to make plays.... Some teams are deeper with loads of talent and scorers
Amazing you try to justify someone being a ball hog and padding stats in blowout games by saying the stat padding should have been worse but her teamates suck. How about taking the kid out of the game instead of taking kids out of the game because they don't only pass the ball to the coaches daughter.No way to justify those numbers in such a lopsided game , if there are any All American evaluators that read this thread hopefully they realize this nonsense needs to end
Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
Steve Levy, the father of the "leading scorer" is the head coach. 12 goals with 2 assists - come on. So ridiculous that you would let your own kid run up the score like this. Same thing is West babylon - 3 girls accounted for 22 points in total on 17 goals.
Great players make their teammates better.
You obviously were not at game. That same kid kid should have had 5 more assists also... She has to make plays.... Some teams are deeper with loads of talent and scorers
It's not about how deep teams are. When you get up by that much, when is enough enough? No reason for the EI girl or WB girl to play the entire game. Both have nothing to gain by staying in. Let some of the younger girls get some time. Both teams are very young and could use all the work they can get. When one of these girls gets hurt when they shouldn't be on the field, the coach will have to answer for that.
Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
Steve Levy, the father of the "leading scorer" is the head coach. 12 goals with 2 assists - come on. So ridiculous that you would let your own kid run up the score like this. Same thing is West babylon - 3 girls accounted for 22 points in total on 17 goals.
Great players make their teammates better.
You obviously were not at game. That same kid kid should have had 5 more assists also... She has to make plays.... Some teams are deeper with loads of talent and scorers
It's not about how deep teams are. When you get up by that much, when is enough enough? No reason for the EI girl or WB girl to play the entire game. Both have nothing to gain by staying in. Let some of the younger girls get some time. Both teams are very young and could use all the work they can get. When one of these girls gets hurt when they shouldn't be on the field, the coach will have to answer for that.
You sound jealous that you can't live through your child like other mommies and daddies can. Sound Sarcastic maybe?
Congrats to 'set for beating the #2 team in the country today. Seems like it's 'set , then everyone els in N.Y.
Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
Steve Levy, the father of the "leading scorer" is the head coach. 12 goals with 2 assists - come on. So ridiculous that you would let your own kid run up the score like this. Same thing is West babylon - 3 girls accounted for 22 points in total on 17 goals.
Great players make their teammates better.
You obviously were not at game. That same kid kid should have had 5 more assists also... She has to make plays.... Some teams are deeper with loads of talent and scorers
It's not about how deep teams are. When you get up by that much, when is enough enough? No reason for the EI girl or WB girl to play the entire game. Both have nothing to gain by staying in. Let some of the younger girls get some time. Both teams are very young and could use all the work they can get. When one of these girls gets hurt when they shouldn't be on the field, the coach will have to answer for that.
You sound jealous that you can't live through your child like other mommies and daddies can. Sound Sarcastic maybe?
Not jealous at all. I have watched both players and I think they are very good. This is about showing some respect for the opposing teams. Also, this is the perfect opportunity to have younger girls get some experience in games. Coaches have to look to the future after these star players are gone.
not familiar with Nassau lax so what club do the 'set' girls play travel for?
Also, for the poster who takes issue with travel girls getting all the touches in school lax. I would imagine that is going to be the case with most teams on LI since the travel girls play more and should be better. My daughter is on one of the smaller Class B teams and every girl with the exception of one who plays school also plays travel and for the life of us, we have no idea why this girl who only plays school is on the field based on her skill level. It is the exception that you can have a girl that doesn't play travel who deserves to be on the field. I know a poster brought up that lax is an affluent sport so you might see this travel non travel dilemma come up, but it doesn't show in my district or in many of the teams in class B and C
Seems that many Manhasset girls play for Liberty... impressive college commitments listed on the Liberty Website: Ivy league and top D1 programs.
Seems that many Manhasset girls play for Liberty... impressive college commitments listed on the Liberty Website: Ivy league and top D1 programs.
I would imagine that many "Non lacrosse / Liberty" Manhasset girls have impressive college commits.
Seems that many Manhasset girls play for Liberty... impressive college commitments listed on the Liberty Website: Ivy league and top D1 programs.
Thanks for the answer, I guess I havn't run into the Liberty much (maybe in VA and at one of the NJ tourneys) so I forgot about them but they are located in NW Nassau so that makes sense. As for them getting Ivy league and D1 commits, I sure that goes back to my comment about affluance and you can also throw in that there are some strong academic School Districts in that area and that having strong academics and being good at lax would give you something to catch the Ivy's attention; plus it helps to be able to pay for school since Ivy's don't give athletic money
Guess the family needed to take it out on someone after getting whooped by the YJ coached MS team by the same score last time out. (not that it is a YJ/TG issue but it is ironic)
way to show your ignorance....no TG relationship there
Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
Steve Levy, the father of the "leading scorer" is the head coach. 12 goals with 2 assists - come on. So ridiculous that you would let your own kid run up the score like this. Same thing is West babylon - 3 girls accounted for 22 points in total on 17 goals.
Great players make their teammates better.
You obviously were not at game. That same kid kid should have had 5 more assists also... She has to make plays.... Some teams are deeper with loads of talent and scorers
Amazing you try to justify someone being a ball hog and padding stats in blowout games by saying the stat padding should have been worse but her teamates suck. How about taking the kid out of the game instead of taking kids out of the game because they don't only pass the ball to the coaches daughter.No way to justify those numbers in such a lopsided game , if there are any All American evaluators that read this thread hopefully they realize this nonsense needs to end
why would an AA eval read your lack of knowledge
Seriously East Islip, that's just poor sportsmanship , your AD should be embarrassed by what goes on.
Steve Levy, the father of the "leading scorer" is the head coach. 12 goals with 2 assists - come on. So ridiculous that you would let your own kid run up the score like this. Same thing is West babylon - 3 girls accounted for 22 points in total on 17 goals.
Great players make their teammates better.
You obviously were not at game. That same kid kid should have had 5 more assists also... She has to make plays.... Some teams are deeper with loads of talent and scorers
It's not about how deep teams are. When you get up by that much, when is enough enough? No reason for the EI girl or WB girl to play the entire game. Both have nothing to gain by staying in. Let some of the younger girls get some time. Both teams are very young and could use all the work they can get. When one of these girls gets hurt when they shouldn't be on the field, the coach will have to answer for that.
You sound jealous that you can't live through your child like other mommies and daddies can. Sound Sarcastic maybe?
Not jealous at all. I have watched both players and I think they are very good. This is about showing some respect for the opposing teams. Also, this is the perfect opportunity to have younger girls get some experience in games. Coaches have to look to the future after these star players are gone.
and you know about coaching? where does your expertise come from?
Guess the family needed to take it out on someone after getting whooped by the YJ coached MS team by the same score last time out. (not that it is a YJ/TG issue but it is ironic)
way to show your ignorance....no TG relationship there
Didn't father coach for TG before leaving to start a new girls program at legacy and didn't daughter play for TG; not that it matters! What does matter is 12 goals and 2 assists...ya gotta pull in the reigns once in a while!
This is another argument for a power conference although based on last season, EI would probably not have been in the power conference
Guess the family needed to take it out on someone after getting whooped by the YJ coached MS team by the same score last time out. (not that it is a YJ/TG issue but it is ironic)
way to show your ignorance....no TG relationship there
Didn't father coach for TG before leaving to start a new girls program at legacy and didn't daughter play for TG; not that it matters! What does matter is 12 goals and 2 assists...ya gotta pull in the reigns once in a while!
This is another argument for a power conference although based on last season, EI would probably not have been in the power conference
I can't believe you turned this into club issue. Seeing as you dial I have to say is that every team will lose to Manhasset, so maybe your playing for the wrong clubs. S.L. is not a good, his reputation has benefited from having coached a travel club with a lot of talent. My daughter had the misfortune of playing for him one year, and I have seen him coach may times since and I think his yelling at both his players(minus his daughter) and the refs hurt his teams more than his gadgety trick plays help.
I've played lacrosse nearly my entire life and there is nothing more embarrassing than when your down big and the opposing team puts their third string in. It is degrading and the message that is sent is that you don't deserve to be on the same filed as our first line. I'd much rather lose big to to the best than to have a bench line come in and practice. Respect the game, respect your opponent and bring your best from whistle to whistle. Anything else is a descrace!
You can spin it any way you want ... but the cream rises to the top no matter what town or club you play for, both academically and athletically. Some people just don't need to boast how good they are on a website, they prove it on the field.
I've played lacrosse nearly my entire life and there is nothing more embarrassing than when your down big and the opposing team puts their third string in. It is degrading and the message that is sent is that you don't deserve to be on the same filed as our first line. I'd much rather lose big to to the best than to have a bench line come in and practice. Respect the game, respect your opponent and bring your best from whistle to whistle. Anything else is a descrace!
ABSOLUTE CRAP! Why are you down big? Because the other coach didn't do the right thing. You don't need to yank all your players. How about telling a girl that has her 15 points already (sarcastic) that if she must play the whole game that she has to pass to a younger or less skilled player so they can go to the cage? The rate of scoring slows down and yes there are a few more saves and turnovers which means you can work on your defense. At Manhasset everybody scores three and if someone goes down to injury the team doesn't fold. Develop your roster and strengthen your total team in these games.
Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
This is life ladies and gentleman. Not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.
I've played lacrosse nearly my entire life and there is nothing more embarrassing than when your down big and the opposing team puts their third string in. It is degrading and the message that is sent is that you don't deserve to be on the same filed as our first line. I'd much rather lose big to to the best than to have a bench line come in and practice. Respect the game, respect your opponent and bring your best from whistle to whistle. Anything else is a descrace!
ABSOLUTE CRAP! Why are you down big? Because the other coach didn't do the right thing. You don't need to yank all your players. How about telling a girl that has her 15 points already (sarcastic) that if she must play the whole game that she has to pass to a younger or less skilled player so they can go to the cage? The rate of scoring slows down and yes there are a few more saves and turnovers which means you can work on your defense. At Manhasset everybody scores three and if someone goes down to injury the team doesn't fold. Develop your roster and strengthen your total team in these games.
Rosters are developed in youth programs and summer travel.
Developing players is what practice is for. Game time is game time. If you can't tolerate getting blown out by better players on a better team you might want to choose a different sport. I've been on both sides of games. Disparity is a part of life. Live with it.
I've played lacrosse nearly my entire life and there is nothing more embarrassing than when your down big and the opposing team puts their third string in. It is degrading and the message that is sent is that you don't deserve to be on the same filed as our first line. I'd much rather lose big to to the best than to have a bench line come in and practice. Respect the game, respect your opponent and bring your best from whistle to whistle. Anything else is a descrace!
ABSOLUTE CRAP! Why are you down big? Because the other coach didn't do the right thing. You don't need to yank all your players. How about telling a girl that has her 15 points already (sarcastic) that if she must play the whole game that she has to pass to a younger or less skilled player so they can go to the cage? The rate of scoring slows down and yes there are a few more saves and turnovers which means you can work on your defense. At Manhasset everybody scores three and if someone goes down to injury the team doesn't fold. Develop your roster and strengthen your total team in these games.
Rosters are developed in youth programs and summer travel.
So High School coaches are baby sitters? They don't offer anything more than our 18yr old summer coach or the daddy PAL coach? If they don't show up as a star they don't play? HS coach doesn't develop their team for years to come? I guess you just let the summer travel kids run the show and pad their stats. Interesting
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Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
This is life ladies and gentleman. Not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.
What you fail to realize is no single kid scored more than 6 goals in any one of those games because the coach is not padding some kids stats . As a matter of fact only in the first blowout did any kid score 6 then they obviously have spread out the scoring. If you are going to use stats at least have a clue .
I've played lacrosse nearly my entire life and there is nothing more embarrassing than when your down big and the opposing team puts their third string in. It is degrading and the message that is sent is that you don't deserve to be on the same filed as our first line. I'd much rather lose big to to the best than to have a bench line come in and practice. Respect the game, respect your opponent and bring your best from whistle to whistle. Anything else is a descrace!
By the way - the word is "disgrace." Obviously you have never coached before because what you described is not what you do. A team is made up of all the players - not just one or two. In games where you can play your entire team, that is a reward for all those players who show up every day to practice and contribute to the overall success of the team. What is a disgrace is a coach leaving in any player who scores as many goals as Levy let his daughter score.
By the way - I also heard Levy is now going to be one of the Under Armour LI coaches for HS. How did this happen? Why was he selected? It definitely was not for sportsamnship.
Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
This is life ladies and gentleman. Not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.
Not sure that comparing college to high school is apples to apples. Here is my question - did Limestone coach let one of his players score 12 goals in any of those games - or 8 goals or 9 goals?
I've played lacrosse nearly my entire life and there is nothing more embarrassing than when your down big and the opposing team puts their third string in. It is degrading and the message that is sent is that you don't deserve to be on the same filed as our first line. I'd much rather lose big to to the best than to have a bench line come in and practice. Respect the game, respect your opponent and bring your best from whistle to whistle. Anything else is a descrace!
By the way - the word is "disgrace." Obviously you have never coached before because what you described is not what you do. A team is made up of all the players - not just one or two. In games where you can play your entire team, that is a reward for all those players who show up every day to practice and contribute to the overall success of the team. What is a disgrace is a coach leaving in any player who scores as many goals as Levy let his daughter score.
By the way - I also heard Levy is now going to be one of the Under Armour LI coaches for HS. How did this happen? Why was he selected? It definitely was not for sportsamnship.
Whats wrong CR and TW are the Coaches now
Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
This is life ladies and gentleman. Not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.
Having played competitive Ice Hockey my entire youth, there was always a designated "goon" on every team who was used in these types of situations. There role was to ring someone's bell and get the attention of the opposing teams coach who was running up the score and bring them to their senses. An egregious act of physicality usually will do the trick.
Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
This is life ladies and gentleman. Not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.
Having played competitive Ice Hockey my entire youth, there was always a designated "goon" on every team who was used in these types of situations. There role was to ring someone's bell and get the attention of the opposing teams coach who was running up the score and bring them to their senses. An egregious act of physicality usually will do the trick.
Absolutely , one of the reasons Hockey is awesome , there is always a certain amount of players policing themselves.
Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
This is life ladies and gentleman. Not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.
Having played competitive Ice Hockey my entire youth, there was always a designated "goon" on every team who was used in these types of situations. There role was to ring someone's bell and get the attention of the opposing teams coach who was running up the score and bring them to their senses. An egregious act of physicality usually will do the trick.
Girls scoring 15 points in lacrosse leads to the same stick wielding play. Poor officiating and poor sportsmanship running up scores is why helmets are inevitable.
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Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
This is life ladies and gentleman. Not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.
What you fail to realize is no single kid scored more than 6 goals in any one of those games because the coach is not padding some kids stats . As a matter of fact only in the first blowout did any kid score 6 then they obviously have spread out the scoring. If you are going to use stats at least have a clue .
So the Manhasset kid padded stats with her 6 goals yesterday? Great players score story is beaten to death
You just don't get it!!! Let's say you are a successful business owner who has put in the hard work, long hours and have risen to the top of your industry. Should you sit out for a while and tell your top performers to slow down because it's unfair to the competition? Should you stand by and sandbag until your competition has the chance to to catch up? This is life people. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
This is a discussion about sportsmanship. The Hockey post was just ignorant and the epitome of poor sportsmanship. Someone is better than you so let's attampt to hurt them. You are a buffoon! But, I'd expect nothing let on this thread...
You just don't get it!!! Let's say you are a successful business owner who has put in the hard work, long hours and have risen to the top of your industry. Should you sit out for a while and tell your top performers to slow down because it's unfair to the competition? Should you stand by and sandbag until your competition has the chance to to catch up? This is life people. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
I don't think you can equate business with lacrosse. Business is about supporting yourself and your family. Lacrosse is not and is never going to lead to money being earned. Yes, you may get a scholarship, but I think it's been pointed out here that college coaches do not pay much attention to what goes on in HS sports so running up the scores doesn't add value to a scholarship.
Running up a score is about bragging rights and some (misguided, IMO) public acclaim. If you can rack up the points in a game then clearly your opponent is not strong and therefore the points you earned don't indicate skill so much as taking advantage of an opportunity to self-aggrandize.
You just don't get it!!! Let's say you are a successful business owner who has put in the hard work, long hours and have risen to the top of your industry. Should you sit out for a while and tell your top performers to slow down because it's unfair to the competition? Should you stand by and sandbag until your competition has the chance to to catch up? This is life people. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
the sad reality of our society that is why.these girls and coaches are NOT rubbing it in anyone's face.they just go out and compete.our society is in trouble because of you mommies and daddies. the kids certainly dont have a problem with others scoring. lets be real. how many kids come home and cry to mommy and daddy at the dinner table. most walk away and dont think about it until the next practice or game. and many others will talk about the sick plays these top girls can make and strive to be that same type of player.it is always the mommies and daddies
I realize it is 'just' high school lax but I think all the teams would benefit from 'power' conferences as you would be playing teams of closer abilities; much like how tournament brackets at travel tournaments try to be. If you have a girl who lights it up day in and day out against the top competition, good for her!
I mentioned this a couple of years ago and that they did this in soccer in Suffolk and wouldn't you know it, Section XI got rid of that league.
We all know that girls get noticed playing travel but that's not gonna stop people's opinions about padding stats or running up the score during hs.
I am usually a SL supporter on these threads. I will say I am shocked and embarrassed for him on this one. It would be bad enough to let ANY kid rack up 15, his own daughter makes about ten times worse. Many other teams and girls could easily do the same exact thing, they CHOOSE not to, to avoid the backlash. Obviously they are not worried about what people think or say, so go ahead and tee it up.
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Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
This is life ladies and gentleman. Not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.
What you fail to realize is no single kid scored more than 6 goals in any one of those games because the coach is not padding some kids stats . As a matter of fact only in the first blowout did any kid score 6 then they obviously have spread out the scoring. If you are going to use stats at least have a clue .
So the Manhasset kid padded stats with her 6 goals yesterday? Great players score story is beaten to death
What!? The Manhasset girl scored 6 goals yesterday because they beat another nationally ranked team 16 - 12 not 19 - 6. Do you see the difference? Just a wee bit closer...
You just don't get it!!! Let's say you are a successful business owner who has put in the hard work, long hours and have risen to the top of your industry. Should you sit out for a while and tell your top performers to slow down because it's unfair to the competition? Should you stand by and sandbag until your competition has the chance to to catch up? This is life people. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
the sad reality of our society that is why.these girls and coaches are NOT rubbing it in anyone's face.they just go out and compete.our society is in trouble because of you mommies and daddies. the kids certainly dont have a problem with others scoring. lets be real. how many kids come home and cry to mommy and daddy at the dinner table. most walk away and dont think about it until the next practice or game. and many others will talk about the sick plays these top girls can make and strive to be that same type of player.it is always the mommies and daddies
So why does our town have kids quitting in droves (even in season) need a team with a full bench to play
You just don't get it!!! Let's say you are a successful business owner who has put in the hard work, long hours and have risen to the top of your industry. Should you sit out for a while and tell your top performers to slow down because it's unfair to the competition? Should you stand by and sandbag until your competition has the chance to to catch up? This is life people. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
the sad reality of our society that is why.these girls and coaches are NOT rubbing it in anyone's face.they just go out and compete.our society is in trouble because of you mommies and daddies. the kids certainly dont have a problem with others scoring. lets be real. how many kids come home and cry to mommy and daddy at the dinner table. most walk away and dont think about it until the next practice or game. and many others will talk about the sick plays these top girls can make and strive to be that same type of player.it is always the mommies and daddies
I'm sorry but you don;t get it. This is not professional sports or even college sports. It's high school girls lacrosse. I have been coaching organized sports at all levels for a long time. This has nothing to do with mommies and daddies. This is all about what sports should be about. Its about teamwork, commitment and hard work. Its about sportsmanship, honoring the game, honoring your opponent.
I've also coached my own kids and I would never let my kids do this - never. In fact I would not let any of my players do this. There is no reason to pour it on and keep scoring when the opponent is clearly mismatched. This is th time to work on other players on the team and empower them to put all of their time and hard work that they have contributed into a game situation.
I'm sorry but to allow your own daughter (or even your own player) rack up 12 goals is gross. 12 of 17 goals - is ridiculous. If you are supposed to be such a great coach - develop more players rather than just your own daughter.
I realize it is 'just' high school lax but I think all the teams would benefit from 'power' conferences as you would be playing teams of closer abilities; much like how tournament brackets at travel tournaments try to be. If you have a girl who lights it up day in and day out against the top competition, good for her!
I mentioned this a couple of years ago and that they did this in soccer in Suffolk and wouldn't you know it, Section XI got rid of that league.
We all know that girls get noticed playing travel but that's not gonna stop people's opinions about padding stats or running up the score during hs.
I place the blame on this squarely on the backs of the Athletic Directors on Long Island. As far as lacrosse goes, the only power conference that exists is for girls in Nassau County.
This year teams who had very good success playing on a lower division were moved up into the A division. Personally I'd much rather see a team go .500 in the top division then going undefeated in a lower division and having 12 or 14 blowout wins. Well that is exactly what is going on in Suffolk (boys and girls) and in Nassau boys. Besides out of conference games - the competition in girls in Suffolk is terrible. As an example, Mt. Sinai - a very good team - is 4-0 right now and have had only one really close game a 5-3 win over ESM. MS has 54 goals for and only 18 against. Middle Country is 4-0 and have outscore opponents 76-28. ESM is 4-1 and have outscored 62-27. Huntington is 3-0 and have outscored opponents 42-18.
On the other hand look at some of the lower ranked schools and see how mismatched they are: Walt Whitman, Brentwood, Deer Park, etc.
It's not that hard to figure this out. There are 47 schools in Suffolk. Create 5 divisions:
A - 9 teams
B - 9 Teams
C- 9 Teams
D- 10 Teams
E - 10 Teams
At the end of the year, the bottom 2 teams in A move to B the next year and the top two teams in B move to A. Same thing happens down the line. When playoffs come - everyone goes back to their school sizes and you have power rankings based on performance.
Simple plan - east to enact and easy to track.
Result: closer games, better games and fewer blowouts. Coaches will need to be better and work harder to develop the whole team rather than just 1-2 players.
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Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
This is life ladies and gentleman. Not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.
What you fail to realize is no single kid scored more than 6 goals in any one of those games because the coach is not padding some kids stats . As a matter of fact only in the first blowout did any kid score 6 then they obviously have spread out the scoring. If you are going to use stats at least have a clue .
So the Manhasset kid padded stats with her 6 goals yesterday? Great players score story is beaten to death
Manhasset girl scored 6 goals against the #2 ranked team in the country. Evenly matched teams playing against each other. One girl on the other team had 7 goals. IS she padding her stats - no - she is competing in a big game.
Personally I look at coaches in situations like this and say - shut down the other team's best player. Make someone else beat you.
I'm sorry but to allow your own daughter (or even your own player) rack up 12 goals is gross. 12 of 17 goals - is ridiculous. If you are supposed to be such a great coach - develop more players rather than just your own daughter.
There are only 2 people on this planet that would defend padding 12 goals in an easy game and we all know their names... mommy and daddy. You can't even call this an argument because everyone except those 2 people would be in agreement.
Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
Would be interesting to see: Did anyone in those games score 12 goals?
I'm sorry but to allow your own daughter (or even your own player) rack up 12 goals is gross. 12 of 17 goals - is ridiculous. If you are supposed to be such a great coach - develop more players rather than just your own daughter.
There are only 2 people on this planet that would defend padding 12 goals in an easy game and we all know their names... mommy and daddy. You can't even call this an argument because everyone except those 2 people would be in agreement.
Not so sure about that. The lynch mob may pile on but she scored 12 of 17 goals. So what.
Maybe we should also talk about the kids that don't pass and hog the ball and cause their teams to lose. That seams worse doesn't it. There are plenty of them. For example John Glenn. Those parents have voiced their frustration as well.
Just a thought.
I'm sorry but to allow your own daughter (or even your own player) rack up 12 goals is gross. 12 of 17 goals - is ridiculous. If you are supposed to be such a great coach - develop more players rather than just your own daughter.
There are only 2 people on this planet that would defend padding 12 goals in an easy game and we all know their names... mommy and daddy. You can't even call this an argument because everyone except those 2 people would be in agreement.
I can agree with you on this one as well. I have watched a few games this year where the same 2-3 players take 80-90% of the shots on the entire team. Shooting percentages are awful, but coach keeps letting them "go to goal."
Not so sure about that. The lynch mob may pile on but she scored 12 of 17 goals. So what.
Maybe we should also talk about the kids that don't pass and hog the ball and cause their teams to lose. That seams worse doesn't it. There are plenty of them. For example John Glenn. Those parents have voiced their frustration as well.
Just a thought.
Can someone please tell me how the Fatso at Connetquot continues to coach? He knows nothing about lacrosse and is destroying our program!
You will never get through to travel parents it's all about me me me padding stats team be damned as long they commit early so it can go up on the (insert club name) travel website
Ok so, today Middle Country played Lindenhurst and won 21-8. The 2 sisters for M.C. , both way better players than E.I. girl, older sister 3g 5a, younger sister 4g 0a, either could have scored all 21. 9 different scorers from M.C. Maybe The Levy clan should take lessons from those two
Ok so, today Middle Country played Lindenhurst and won 21-8. The 2 sisters for M.C. , both way better players than E.I. girl, older sister 3g 5a, younger sister 4g 0a, either could have scored all 21. 9 different scorers from M.C. Maybe The Levy clan should take lessons from those two
Lol. Both way better? Your high.
Gary Gait from Syracuse seems to disagree. I'll take his opinion over yours any day.
Ok so, today Middle Country played Lindenhurst and won 21-8. The 2 sisters for M.C. , both way better players than E.I. girl, older sister 3g 5a, younger sister 4g 0a, either could have scored all 21. 9 different scorers from M.C. Maybe The Levy clan should take lessons from those two
Lol. Both way better? Your high.
Gary Gait from Syracuse seems to disagree. I'll take his opinion over yours any day.
foolish to argue who is better... all three made out pretty good..
although.... 'cuse probably has the largest roster in womens lacrosse. I'm not sure if there are enough uniforms for all those girls..
Can someone please tell me how the Fatso at Connetquot continues to coach? He knows nothing about lacrosse and is destroying our program!
What is he doing that is destroying your program.
Ok so, today Middle Country played Lindenhurst and won 21-8. The 2 sisters for M.C. , both way better players than E.I. girl, older sister 3g 5a, younger sister 4g 0a, either could have scored all 21. 9 different scorers from M.C. Maybe The Levy clan should take lessons from those two
Lol. Both way better? Your high.
Gary Gait from Syracuse seems to disagree. I'll take his opinion over yours any day.
First off I am sure Gait would have gladly taken either sister , that being said they are the wrong kids to use as an example of sportsmanship, they are also stat padders just were apparently held back in this one.
I'm sorry but to allow your own daughter (or even your own player) rack up 12 goals is gross. 12 of 17 goals - is ridiculous. If you are supposed to be such a great coach - develop more players rather than just your own daughter.
There are only 2 people on this planet that would defend padding 12 goals in an easy game and we all know their names... mommy and daddy. You can't even call this an argument because everyone except those 2 people would be in agreement.
Not so sure about that. The lynch mob may pile on but she scored 12 of 17 goals. So what.
Maybe we should also talk about the kids that don't pass and hog the ball and cause their teams to lose. That seams worse doesn't it. There are plenty of them. For example John Glenn. Those parents have voiced their frustration as well.
Just a thought.
John Glenn has a girls lacrosse team?? who knew
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Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
This is life ladies and gentleman. Not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.
What you fail to realize is no single kid scored more than 6 goals in any one of those games because the coach is not padding some kids stats . As a matter of fact only in the first blowout did any kid score 6 then they obviously have spread out the scoring. If you are going to use stats at least have a clue .
So the Manhasset kid padded stats with her 6 goals yesterday? Great players score story is beaten to death
First off 6 is not 12 and the game was a highly competitive game not some blowout
I realize it is 'just' high school lax but I think all the teams would benefit from 'power' conferences as you would be playing teams of closer abilities; much like how tournament brackets at travel tournaments try to be. If you have a girl who lights it up day in and day out against the top competition, good for her!
I mentioned this a couple of years ago and that they did this in soccer in Suffolk and wouldn't you know it, Section XI got rid of that league.
We all know that girls get noticed playing travel but that's not gonna stop people's opinions about padding stats or running up the score during hs.
I place the blame on this squarely on the backs of the Athletic Directors on Long Island. As far as lacrosse goes, the only power conference that exists is for girls in Nassau County.
This year teams who had very good success playing on a lower division were moved up into the A division. Personally I'd much rather see a team go .500 in the top division then going undefeated in a lower division and having 12 or 14 blowout wins. Well that is exactly what is going on in Suffolk (boys and girls) and in Nassau boys. Besides out of conference games - the competition in girls in Suffolk is terrible. As an example, Mt. Sinai - a very good team - is 4-0 right now and have had only one really close game a 5-3 win over ESM. MS has 54 goals for and only 18 against. Middle Country is 4-0 and have outscore opponents 76-28. ESM is 4-1 and have outscored 62-27. Huntington is 3-0 and have outscored opponents 42-18.
On the other hand look at some of the lower ranked schools and see how mismatched they are: Walt Whitman, Brentwood, Deer Park, etc.
It's not that hard to figure this out. There are 47 schools in Suffolk. Create 5 divisions:
A - 9 teams
B - 9 Teams
C- 9 Teams
D- 10 Teams
E - 10 Teams
At the end of the year, the bottom 2 teams in A move to B the next year and the top two teams in B move to A. Same thing happens down the line. When playoffs come - everyone goes back to their school sizes and you have power rankings based on performance.
Simple plan - east to enact and easy to track.
Result: closer games, better games and fewer blowouts. Coaches will need to be better and work harder to develop the whole team rather than just 1-2 players.
They implemented a similar plan in Nasssu Girls HS Soccer a few years ago and it alleviated the blowout games. Lacrosse (both school and club) could learn a lot from soccer.
You just don't get it!!! Let's say you are a successful business owner who has put in the hard work, long hours and have risen to the top of your industry. Should you sit out for a while and tell your top performers to slow down because it's unfair to the competition? Should you stand by and sandbag until your competition has the chance to to catch up? This is life people. Why is this so difficult to grasp?
the sad reality of our society that is why.these girls and coaches are NOT rubbing it in anyone's face.they just go out and compete.our society is in trouble because of you mommies and daddies. the kids certainly dont have a problem with others scoring. lets be real. how many kids come home and cry to mommy and daddy at the dinner table. most walk away and dont think about it until the next practice or game. and many others will talk about the sick plays these top girls can make and strive to be that same type of player.it is always the mommies and daddies
I'm sorry but you don;t get it. This is not professional sports or even college sports. It's high school girls lacrosse. I have been coaching organized sports at all levels for a long time. This has nothing to do with mommies and daddies. This is all about what sports should be about. Its about teamwork, commitment and hard work. Its about sportsmanship, honoring the game, honoring your opponent.
I've also coached my own kids and I would never let my kids do this - never. In fact I would not let any of my players do this. There is no reason to pour it on and keep scoring when the opponent is clearly mismatched. This is th time to work on other players on the team and empower them to put all of their time and hard work that they have contributed into a game situation.
I'm sorry but to allow your own daughter (or even your own player) rack up 12 goals is gross. 12 of 17 goals - is ridiculous. If you are supposed to be such a great coach - develop more players rather than just your own daughter.
Best post of the discussion by far
I think your spelling is a bigger DISGRACE!
U
Welcome to competitive sports! Get used to it. Just take a Look at Limestone's games results:
Beat Emmanuel 20-4
Beat Catawba 22-4
Beat North Greenville 20-1
Beat Erskine 20-0
Beat Coverse 21-3
This is life ladies and gentleman. Not everyone gets a trophy. Get over it.
What you fail to realize is no single kid scored more than 6 goals in any one of those games because the coach is not padding some kids stats . As a matter of fact only in the first blowout did any kid score 6 then they obviously have spread out the scoring. If you are going to use stats at least have a clue .
So the Manhasset kid padded stats with her 6 goals yesterday? Great players score story is beaten to death
16-12 is a little different from 18-4 or any other blowout. Many different scorers for Manhasset yesterday.
To clarify, I don't think anyone has a prob with someone scoring a lot in a close game when goals are needed to win. Maybe it's selfish, maybe it's necessary to win. But when a game is a blowout and the goals are not needed how can you color that as anything other a shameless attempt to inflate your numbers? Why not rotate the bench in and let them get some experience?
To clarify, I don't think anyone has a prob with someone scoring a lot in a close game when goals are needed to win. Maybe it's selfish, maybe it's necessary to win. But when a game is a blowout and the goals are not needed how can you color that as anything other a shameless attempt to inflate your numbers? Why not rotate the bench in and let them get some experience?
This is wasted on most travel parents. They could care less about the team.
Ok so, today Middle Country played Lindenhurst and won 21-8. The 2 sisters for M.C. , both way better players than E.I. girl, older sister 3g 5a, younger sister 4g 0a, either could have scored all 21. 9 different scorers from M.C. Maybe The Levy clan should take lessons from those two
Lol. Both way better? Your high.
Gary Gait from Syracuse seems to disagree. I'll take his opinion over yours any day.
First off I am sure Gait would have gladly taken either sister , that being said they are the wrong kids to use as an example of sportsmanship, they are also stat padders just were apparently held back in this one.
Your right Notre Dame (11)and UNC (2) both suck, If your not going to 'cuse (6), you might as well not go. Or maybe both sisters turned Gait down
I'm sorry but to allow your own daughter (or even your own player) rack up 12 goals is gross. 12 of 17 goals - is ridiculous. If you are supposed to be such a great coach - develop more players rather than just your own daughter.
There are only 2 people on this planet that would defend padding 12 goals in an easy game and we all know their names... mommy and daddy. You can't even call this an argument because everyone except those 2 people would be in agreement.
Not so sure about that. The lynch mob may pile on but she scored 12 of 17 goals. So what.
Maybe we should also talk about the kids that don't pass and hog the ball and cause their teams to lose. That seams worse doesn't it. There are plenty of them. For example John Glenn. Those parents have voiced their frustration as well.
Just a thought.
To make it easier to follow see the post below that was combined with the above post. It was meant as a response.
"Sorry but you are just plain wrong on this. The difference is she padded her stats while playing against an overmatched opponent , it's like the big bully picking on the weakling. You have seen the national headlines of coaches being suspended in bball when the out score opponents like 100-0, this is similar . While the ball hogs on bad teams is being z bad teamate it's not unsportsmanlike , picking on and padding your stats against overmatched opponents is and the coach and AD should be embarrassed. I have had many conversations w Steve Levy and I am surprised he would do this , my guess is he feels the pressure to get his daughter the accolades he feels she deserves, the thing is at what cost , is it really worth it."
I realize it is 'just' high school lax but I think all the teams would benefit from 'power' conferences as you would be playing teams of closer abilities; much like how tournament brackets at travel tournaments try to be. If you have a girl who lights it up day in and day out against the top competition, good for her!
I mentioned this a couple of years ago and that they did this in soccer in Suffolk and wouldn't you know it, Section XI got rid of that league.
We all know that girls get noticed playing travel but that's not gonna stop people's opinions about padding stats or running up the score during hs.
I place the blame on this squarely on the backs of the Athletic Directors on Long Island. As far as lacrosse goes, the only power conference that exists is for girls in Nassau County.
This year teams who had very good success playing on a lower division were moved up into the A division. Personally I'd much rather see a team go .500 in the top division then going undefeated in a lower division and having 12 or 14 blowout wins. Well that is exactly what is going on in Suffolk (boys and girls) and in Nassau boys. Besides out of conference games - the competition in girls in Suffolk is terrible. As an example, Mt. Sinai - a very good team - is 4-0 right now and have had only one really close game a 5-3 win over ESM. MS has 54 goals for and only 18 against. Middle Country is 4-0 and have outscore opponents 76-28. ESM is 4-1 and have outscored 62-27. Huntington is 3-0 and have outscored opponents 42-18.
On the other hand look at some of the lower ranked schools and see how mismatched they are: Walt Whitman, Brentwood, Deer Park, etc.
It's not that hard to figure this out. There are 47 schools in Suffolk. Create 5 divisions:
A - 9 teams
B - 9 Teams
C- 9 Teams
D- 10 Teams
E - 10 Teams
At the end of the year, the bottom 2 teams in A move to B the next year and the top two teams in B move to A. Same thing happens down the line. When playoffs come - everyone goes back to their school sizes and you have power rankings based on performance.
Simple plan - east to enact and easy to track.
Result: closer games, better games and fewer blowouts. Coaches will need to be better and work harder to develop the whole team rather than just 1-2 players.
That is sort of how travel soccer works.
My idea was to have the bottom six in each division be in a league with the top two from each division moving up and the bottom two from each division moving to this league.
Having a league with the top 7 from each division would also make for some good lax. From Div 2, I would take MS, ESM, Say, BBP, Hunt, Haup and ? Does anyone want to take who in D1 would be in the league?
It's pretty comical. Not 1 person on a website that has a LOT of opinions seems to defend this girls 12 goals... The silence speaks clearly! Bad judgement coach!
Can someone please tell me how the Fatso at Connetquot continues to coach? He knows nothing about lacrosse and is destroying our program!
How can you say that he is a YJ coach he has to know what he is doing
Of the worst team in the YJ age group. I feel bad for people who pay for him!
Looking at the stat leaders - Suffolk has a crazy amount of points up top in a lot of blow out games but at least some have more assists that goals. In Nassau all the stat leaders are from weak schools that won't do anything come playoff time.
I find it hard to believe that some of the top 10 stat leaders in both counties have less than 10% of their points from assists, that's were some decent coaching and parenting should kick in with a simple when the team is up by a ton, PASS THE BALL!
Looking at the stat leaders - Suffolk has a crazy amount of points up top in a lot of blow out games but at least some have more assists that goals. In Nassau all the stat leaders are from weak schools that won't do anything come playoff time.
I find it hard to believe that some of the top 10 stat leaders in both counties have less than 10% of their points from assists, that's were some decent coaching and parenting should kick in with a simple when the team is up by a ton, PASS THE BALL!
The whole newsday stat keeping is silly. Where are the ground balls kept, turnovers, caused turnovers, shots??
Maybe those kids are taking 15 shots to score 5 goals which is really not that impressive anyway.
You are joking you call him a YJ coach. He is not respected by anyone...players included!
You are joking you call him a YJ coach. He is not respected by anyone...players included!
at what age is fatso a YJ coach
you people do realize that it is much harder to record an assist in girls lacrosse than score a goal. lacrosse is not hockey. probably less than 10% of all goals in girls lacrosse are scored off true assists. all those assist stats in newsday are greatly exaggerated anyway. This does not excuse a player from running up their goal total in blowouts, however on some teams a few girls need to score to even keep the game close. This is reality and please don't compare teams like Manhasset to lesser opponents when talking about who scores or how many score. Fact is that the top teams have probably 5-10 players that would be the star on 80% of the HS teams out there and would score all of that teams goals. reality
you people do realize that it is much harder to record an assist in girls lacrosse than score a goal. lacrosse is not hockey. probably less than 10% of all goals in girls lacrosse are scored off true assists. all those assist stats in newsday are greatly exaggerated anyway. This does not excuse a player from running up their goal total in blowouts, however on some teams a few girls need to score to even keep the game close. This is reality and please don't compare teams like Manhasset to lesser opponents when talking about who scores or how many score. Fact is that the top teams have probably 5-10 players that would be the star on 80% of the HS teams out there and would score all of that teams goals. reality
I agree. The assist stat is greatly exaggerated! I also agree that stats for HS sports are totally useless. First of all the stats are not done by professionals and totally subjective(assists and saves). Secondly, The level of competition is totally different from league to league. Even within the divisions there is a major difference in strength of schedule! The thing that is often overlooked in the stat padding, is many coaches leave their "stars" in for the entire game regardless of the outcome. So when you are losing by 10 plus and the other team took out all their starters and your best players are still in the game pumping in garbage goals, it really doesn't mean you are that good! There are teams who take their kids out and teams who never do!
Since the assist is much harder to achieve, kudos to the girls with a balanced goal to assist ratio. Better team players with great field vision. Give me a 15-15 girl over a 27-3 girl any day of the week. The 27 goal person would be a black hole!
Since the assist is much harder to achieve, kudos to the girls with a balanced goal to assist ratio. Better team players with great field vision. Give me a 15-15 girl over a 27-3 girl any day of the week. The 27 goal person would be a black hole!
I agree. It is very frustrating when the coach allows the team ball hog to go to the goal every time she touches the ball. Never takes her off even when she rolls her eyes!!
I agree but my point is , that 15-15 girl would probably be a 25-5 on a lesser team. Not making her a ball hog but rather her teams only option in games against better competition. I do not however love or condone a player forcing the ball over and over again
I agree but my point is , that 15-15 girl would probably be a 25-5 on a lesser team. Not making her a ball hog but rather her teams only option in games against better competition. I do not however love or condone a player forcing the ball over and over again
I agree but my point is , that 15-15 girl would probably be a 25-5 on a lesser team. Not making her a ball hog but rather her teams only option in games against better competition. I do not however love or condone a player forcing the ball over and over again
there actually is someone with a clue on here!!!!!
Can someone please tell me how the Fatso at Connetquot continues to coach? He knows nothing about lacrosse and is destroying our program!
How can you say that he is a YJ coach he has to know what he is doing
Other than the fact that he is obese, what's your problem with his coaching? If you're going to air your dirty laundry,at least be specific.
Rolls her eyes?? What's that about?
I agree but my point is , that 15-15 girl would probably be a 25-5 on a lesser team. Not making her a ball hog but rather her teams only option in games against better competition. I do not however love or condone a player forcing the ball over and over again
I agree but my point is , that 15-15 girl would probably be a 25-5 on a lesser team. Not making her a ball hog but rather her teams only option in games against better competition. I do not however love or condone a player forcing the ball over and over again
there actually is someone with a clue on here!!!!!
If the 15-15 girl has to go to the cage in some games, she gets a pass by me because her track record is being a team player. The 27-3 will always be about stat padding selfish play and is anything but a team player. When you are big PASS THE BALL!
I agree but my point is , that 15-15 girl would probably be a 25-5 on a lesser team. Not making her a ball hog but rather her teams only option in games against better competition. I do not however love or condone a player forcing the ball over and over again
I agree but my point is , that 15-15 girl would probably be a 25-5 on a lesser team. Not making her a ball hog but rather her teams only option in games against better competition. I do not however love or condone a player forcing the ball over and over again
there actually is someone with a clue on here!!!!!
If the 15-15 girl has to go to the cage in some games, she gets a pass by me because her track record is being a team player. The 27-3 will always be about stat padding selfish play and is anything but a team player. When you are big PASS THE BALL!
I am sure the 15-15 sleeps easier at night knowing you will give her a pass when she goes to the cage.
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
Couple of things from Suffolk D2 today.
Mount Sinai won a one goal game vs 'that horrible, or was it terrible' SWR team
Haup beat EI 8-4 and held the two touchdown (with no extra points) girl to one goal
2020-2021. He is a complete embarrassment!
He doesn't know the game! And him being obese is a reason his teams are lazy in YJ and HS. He has ZERO track record of success! Why are you defending this man. He's robbing the YJ parents and destroying OUR HS program!
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
LMAO!!!
I agree but my point is , that 15-15 girl would probably be a 25-5 on a lesser team. Not making her a ball hog but rather her teams only option in games against better competition. I do not however love or condone a player forcing the ball over and over again
I agree but my point is , that 15-15 girl would probably be a 25-5 on a lesser team. Not making her a ball hog but rather her teams only option in games against better competition. I do not however love or condone a player forcing the ball over and over again
there actually is someone with a clue on here!!!!!
If the 15-15 girl has to go to the cage in some games, she gets a pass by me because her track record is being a team player. The 27-3 will always be about stat padding selfish play and is anything but a team player. When you are big PASS THE BALL!
I am sure the 15-15 sleeps easier at night knowing you will give her a pass when she goes to the cage.
Hmmm you sound like the parent of a 27-3
Couple of things from Suffolk D2 today.
Mount Sinai won a one goal game vs 'that horrible, or was it terrible' SWR team
Haup beat EI 8-4 and held the EI girl to one goal
Couple of things from Suffolk D2 today.
Mount Sinai won a one goal game vs 'that horrible, or was it terrible' SWR team
Haup beat EI 8-4 and held the two touchdown (with no extra points) girl to one goal
HOW DID THEY STOP HER?
He doesn't know the game! And him being obese is a reason his teams are lazy in YJ and HS. He has ZERO track record of success! Why are you defending this man. He's robbing the YJ parents and destroying OUR HS program!
I don't think I was defending him, as I don't really know him. Just wanted to hear your reasoning other than he's fat.
Couple of things from Suffolk D2 today.
Mount Sinai won a one goal game vs 'that horrible, or was it terrible' SWR team
Haup beat EI 8-4 and held the EI girl to one goal
Couple of things from Suffolk D2 today.
Mount Sinai won a one goal game vs 'that horrible, or was it terrible' SWR team
Haup beat EI 8-4 and held the EI girl to one goal
HOW DID THEY STOP HER?
The childish negative comments toward the EI player will not be tolerated.
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
Two of the best kids in the countRY? No
However, they do have one of the best 2020 kids in the counTY. This kid is actually producing.
As far as how the team is doing?? They haven't had any games against the top teams yet. Time will tell.
They have a few sure losses on the schedule and only 1 easy game left. It will be interesting to see how they do against the 2nd tier clubs.
Oh, and Suffolk really needs to have a league with the teams that are not as skilled because I don't know what these teams are getting from losing 18-3 15-1 etc...
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
Two of the best kids in the countRY? No
However, they do have one of the best 2020 kids in the counTY. This kid is actually producing.
As far as how the team is doing?? They haven't had any games against the top teams yet. Time will tell.
Lighten up Frances
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
Two of the best kids in the countRY? No
However, they do have one of the best 2020 kids in the counTY. This kid is actually producing.
As far as how the team is doing?? They haven't had any games against the top teams yet. Time will tell.
Lighten up Frances
Hey that's my line!! Lol
I agree but my point is , that 15-15 girl would probably be a 25-5 on a lesser team. Not making her a ball hog but rather her teams only option in games against better competition. I do not however love or condone a player forcing the ball over and over again
I agree but my point is , that 15-15 girl would probably be a 25-5 on a lesser team. Not making her a ball hog but rather her teams only option in games against better competition. I do not however love or condone a player forcing the ball over and over again
there actually is someone with a clue on here!!!!!
If the 15-15 girl has to go to the cage in some games, she gets a pass by me because her track record is being a team player. The 27-3 will always be about stat padding selfish play and is anything but a team player. When you are big PASS THE BALL!
I am sure the 15-15 sleeps easier at night knowing you will give her a pass when she goes to the cage.
Hmmm you sound like the parent of a 27-3
A YJ Parent
Perhaps the inconsistencies with the statistics and resumes is the reason College coaches choose to look at their potential recruits and their style of play over the summer. A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program. Coaches make the rounds at the summmer club tournaments and camps and look for players who excel in the challenging games.
High school ball should be about town pride, camaraderie, and perhaps a championship. The best teams play as teams. The oft ignored defense (in the stat column) usually makes the difference in those tight championship games.
Good luck to all our Long Island teams this season! And to the parents, try to relax and enjoy the ride!
Perhaps the inconsistencies with the statistics and resumes is the reason College coaches choose to look at their potential recruits and their style of play over the summer. A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program. Coaches make the rounds at the summmer club tournaments and camps and look for players who excel in the challenging games.
High school ball should be about town pride, camaraderie, and perhaps a championship. The best teams play as teams. The oft ignored defense (in the stat column) usually makes the difference in those tight championship games.
Good luck to all our Long Island teams this season! And to the parents, try to relax and enjoy the ride!
Yes. Good post.
Garden City might not be so bad after all: GC9 - Darien 8 Final
So its ok for shannon smith to score 505 career goals since 7th grade and score a season high 129 goals. So for those who are complaining stop. The EI kid is a very good player and every team would take she would be leading assist player on every team and as well she can finish. Trust if this was your kid you would not be complaining.
Perhaps the inconsistencies with the statistics and resumes is the reason College coaches choose to look at their potential recruits and their style of play over the summer. A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program. Coaches make the rounds at the summmer club tournaments and camps and look for players who excel in the challenging games.
High school ball should be about town pride, camaraderie, and perhaps a championship. The best teams play as teams. The oft ignored defense (in the stat column) usually makes the difference in those tight championship games.
Good luck to all our Long Island teams this season! And to the parents, try to relax and enjoy the ride!
Yes. Good post.
Have to disagree, sometimes that 6 year starter is just better than the 2 year impact player, sometimes not. To diminish any of these kids accomplishments because of jealousy is silly. Have seen travel teams who are made up of many of these 6 year starters play against the travel teams with the 2 year impact kids and can say i will take the team with the 6 year starters i.e. YJ vs Liberty
So its ok for shannon smith to score 505 career goals since 7th grade and score a season high 129 goals. So for those who are complaining stop. The EI kid is a very good player and every team would take she would be leading assist player on every team and as well she can finish. Trust if this was your kid you would not be complaining.
who said it is OK? What was going on way back then is the same ugly we are seeing now, actually worse.
Perhaps the inconsistencies with the statistics and resumes is the reason College coaches choose to look at their potential recruits and their style of play over the summer. A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program. Coaches make the rounds at the summmer club tournaments and camps and look for players who excel in the challenging games.
High school ball should be about town pride, camaraderie, and perhaps a championship. The best teams play as teams. The oft ignored defense (in the stat column) usually makes the difference in those tight championship games.
Good luck to all our Long Island teams this season! And to the parents, try to relax and enjoy the ride!
Yes. Good post.
Have to disagree, sometimes that 6 year starter is just better than the 2 year impact player, sometimes not. To diminish any of these kids accomplishments because of jealousy is silly. Have seen travel teams who are made up of many of these 6 year starters play against the travel teams with the 2 year impact kids and can say i will take the team with the 6 year starters i.e. YJ vs Liberty
It was never about jealousy. It's about sportsmanship and common sense. This isn't about the players either. The coach should be smart enough to take the better players out in a blowout and get some younger girls in. You don't want your best players to risk getting hurt and your younger players get some valuable game experience. I don't know why this is such a difficult concept to understand.
It's way worse now. When SS was coming out it was a different world. Now there is a travel program on every corner. Club websites tout 8th/9th grade verbals. The Elite club now has 6 teams in most age groups. Big money business and money grab. Varsity call ups and crazy point totals from a me first era is destroying this team sport.
Perhaps the inconsistencies with the statistics and resumes is the reason College coaches choose to look at their potential recruits and their style of play over the summer. A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program. Coaches make the rounds at the summmer club tournaments and camps and look for players who excel in the challenging games.
High school ball should be about town pride, camaraderie, and perhaps a championship. The best teams play as teams. The oft ignored defense (in the stat column) usually makes the difference in those tight championship games.
Good luck to all our Long Island teams this season! And to the parents, try to relax and enjoy the ride!
Yes. Good post.
Have to disagree, sometimes that 6 year starter is just better than the 2 year impact player, sometimes not. To diminish any of these kids accomplishments because of jealousy is silly. Have seen travel teams who are made up of many of these 6 year starters play against the travel teams with the 2 year impact kids and can say i will take the team with the 6 year starters i.e. YJ vs Liberty
How are the teams with the 6 year starters doing today? Could any of those teams beat Liberty/Manhasset? If you want your kid to be a "gotta get mine" player and in the end not reach there goal stay at Y.J. If you want your kid to learn to play as a team and succeed play liberty and win in the end. While your kid is going down to Maryland that first tournament in June to beat on Liberty remember, its just because Manhasset is going up state to play for the state. At least you get to brag to one another how you kid got 12 goals against Brentwood as a 7th grade starter.
Perhaps the inconsistencies with the statistics and resumes is the reason College coaches choose to look at their potential recruits and their style of play over the summer. A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program. Coaches make the rounds at the summmer club tournaments and camps and look for players who excel in the challenging games.
High school ball should be about town pride, camaraderie, and perhaps a championship. The best teams play as teams. The oft ignored defense (in the stat column) usually makes the difference in those tight championship games.
Good luck to all our Long Island teams this season! And to the parents, try to relax and enjoy the ride!
Yes. Good post.
Have to disagree, sometimes that 6 year starter is just better than the 2 year impact player, sometimes not. To diminish any of these kids accomplishments because of jealousy is silly. Have seen travel teams who are made up of many of these 6 year starters play against the travel teams with the 2 year impact kids and can say i will take the team with the 6 year starters i.e. YJ vs Liberty
How are the teams with the 6 year starters doing today? Could any of those teams beat Liberty/Manhasset? If you want your kid to be a "gotta get mine" player and in the end not reach there goal stay at Y.J. If you want your kid to learn to play as a team and succeed play liberty and win in the end. While your kid is going down to Maryland that first tournament in June to beat on Liberty remember, its just because Manhasset is going up state to play for the state. At least you get to brag to one another how you kid got 12 goals against Brentwood as a 7th grade starter.
Actually it could be early June , late June, early July and they will still beat on Liberty because Liberty travel teams are sub par at best. When YJ top teams play liberty its non competitive , has nothing to do with kids being away. Watched a younger YJ team beat on an older Liberty Black team in July. Is what it is but to say like you did that a kid who plays for SET is automatically better than a kid who plays on a team that is not very good is the exact reason people think you are arrogant and enjoy putting the beat down on your so called travel teams.
Perhaps the inconsistencies with the statistics and resumes is the reason College coaches choose to look at their potential recruits and their style of play over the summer. A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program. Coaches make the rounds at the summmer club tournaments and camps and look for players who excel in the challenging games.
High school ball should be about town pride, camaraderie, and perhaps a championship. The best teams play as teams. The oft ignored defense (in the stat column) usually makes the difference in those tight championship games.
Good luck to all our Long Island teams this season! And to the parents, try to relax and enjoy the ride!
Yes. Good post.
Have to disagree, sometimes that 6 year starter is just better than the 2 year impact player, sometimes not. To diminish any of these kids accomplishments because of jealousy is silly. Have seen travel teams who are made up of many of these 6 year starters play against the travel teams with the 2 year impact kids and can say i will take the team with the 6 year starters i.e. YJ vs Liberty
How are the teams with the 6 year starters doing today? Could any of those teams beat Liberty/Manhasset? If you want your kid to be a "gotta get mine" player and in the end not reach there goal stay at Y.J. If you want your kid to learn to play as a team and succeed play liberty and win in the end. While your kid is going down to Maryland that first tournament in June to beat on Liberty remember, its just because Manhasset is going up state to play for the state. At least you get to brag to one another how you kid got 12 goals against Brentwood as a 7th grade starter.
Actually it could be early June , late June, early July and they will still beat on Liberty because Liberty travel teams are sub par at best. When YJ top teams play liberty its non competitive , has nothing to do with kids being away. Watched a younger YJ team beat on an older Liberty Black team in July. Is what it is but to say like you did that a kid who plays for SET is automatically better than a kid who plays on a team that is not very good is the exact reason people think you are arrogant and enjoy putting the beat down on your so called travel teams.
Never said anyone from 'set was automatically better, It was you that brought Liberty into the conversation. But the truth be told, I'll take the 2nd year varsity starter from 'set offensively, or defensively against your 9th grader every time. this isn't a thread about your coveted Yellow Jackets, it's about girls varsity, so if the only thing you have to hang your hat on is your 7th grader playing for a bad high school team that will never compete for states, so you pound your chest for Yellow jackets, than go to one of a hundred threads where that is appropriate. But on this thread it's about high school, and by far the best is 'set, coached by D.G. three years ago it was G.C. in two years it may be E.S.M. I get the feeling it will never be where your daughter is attending. do us all a favor and crawl back into your Y.J. hole with the rest of the parents that play on the "best travel team in the country" but will never play for a decent high school team. By the way my daughter plays on one of the worst H.S. teams in Suffolk right now with girls that play on both T.G. black and Y.J. blue so in reality where your kid plays in summer means nothing during the spring
Perhaps the inconsistencies with the statistics and resumes is the reason College coaches choose to look at their potential recruits and their style of play over the summer. A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program. Coaches make the rounds at the summmer club tournaments and camps and look for players who excel in the challenging games.
High school ball should be about town pride, camaraderie, and perhaps a championship. The best teams play as teams. The oft ignored defense (in the stat column) usually makes the difference in those tight championship games.
Good luck to all our Long Island teams this season! And to the parents, try to relax and enjoy the ride!
Yes. Good post.
Have to disagree, sometimes that 6 year starter is just better than the 2 year impact player, sometimes not. To diminish any of these kids accomplishments because of jealousy is silly. Have seen travel teams who are made up of many of these 6 year starters play against the travel teams with the 2 year impact kids and can say i will take the team with the 6 year starters i.e. YJ vs Liberty
How are the teams with the 6 year starters doing today? Could any of those teams beat Liberty/Manhasset? If you want your kid to be a "gotta get mine" player and in the end not reach there goal stay at Y.J. If you want your kid to learn to play as a team and succeed play liberty and win in the end. While your kid is going down to Maryland that first tournament in June to beat on Liberty remember, its just because Manhasset is going up state to play for the state. At least you get to brag to one another how you kid got 12 goals against Brentwood as a 7th grade starter.
Actually it could be early June , late June, early July and they will still beat on Liberty because Liberty travel teams are sub par at best. When YJ top teams play liberty its non competitive , has nothing to do with kids being away. Watched a younger YJ team beat on an older Liberty Black team in July. Is what it is but to say like you did that a kid who plays for SET is automatically better than a kid who plays on a team that is not very good is the exact reason people think you are arrogant and enjoy putting the beat down on your so called travel teams.
Never said anyone from 'set was automatically better, It was you that brought Liberty into the conversation. But the truth be told, I'll take the 2nd year varsity starter from 'set offensively, or defensively against your 9th grader every time. this isn't a thread about your coveted Yellow Jackets, it's about girls varsity, so if the only thing you have to hang your hat on is your 7th grader playing for a bad high school team that will never compete for states, so you pound your chest for Yellow jackets, than go to one of a hundred threads where that is appropriate. But on this thread it's about high school, and by far the best is 'set, coached by D.G. three years ago it was G.C. in two years it may be E.S.M. I get the feeling it will never be where your daughter is attending. do us all a favor and crawl back into your Y.J. hole with the rest of the parents that play on the "best travel team in the country" but will never play for a decent high school team. By the way my daughter plays on one of the worst H.S. teams in Suffolk right now with girls that play on both T.G. black and Y.J. blue so in reality where your kid plays in summer means nothing during the spring
Before commenting, DG has been an absolute gift to girls/women's lacrosse as a player, coach and mentor. I think the issue is combining DG's winning at Set and Liberty. Liberty does not compete well during tournaments in the summer. although the program sends kids to great schools for college, it has not translated to winning. I believe DG started at Set in 2006 and has produced top teams most of the years since. We will see what happens this year as they look great so far, but one state title in nine years is not that impressive, particularly when you compare it to the seven from Garden City.
I wish Diane Chapman would start a club program. There is a reason GC produces such talent, she is a great coach and a very caring and dedicated person.
Your Manhasset team falls off a cliff after this year and your youth teams are below average so GC will be the team to beat in Nassau . When you said " doesn't compare" you just look like the conceited arrogant type parent that makes people repulsed by you. So arrogant to state that any 6 year starter at a weak program does not compare to your second year daughter who has ridden on the coat tails of others in your program. My daughter plays at GC and believe me she has many kids who played varsity in 8 th grade on her YJ team who are some of the top players in the country. There are excellent players at many schools , big, small,good and bad.
Your Manhasset team falls off a cliff after this year and your youth teams are below average so GC will be the team to beat in Nassau . When you said " doesn't compare" you just look like the conceited arrogant type parent that makes people repulsed by you. So arrogant to state that any 6 year starter at a weak program does not compare to your second year daughter who has ridden on the coat tails of others in your program. My daughter plays at GC and believe me she has many kids who played varsity in 8 th grade on her YJ team who are some of the top players in the country. There are excellent players at many schools , big, small,good and bad.
Problem at the little or weak schools is the YJ girls don't pass the ball
Your Manhasset team falls off a cliff after this year and your youth teams are below average so GC will be the team to beat in Nassau . When you said " doesn't compare" you just look like the conceited arrogant type parent that makes people repulsed by you. So arrogant to state that any 6 year starter at a weak program does not compare to your second year daughter who has ridden on the coat tails of others in your program. My daughter plays at GC and believe me she has many kids who played varsity in 8 th grade on her YJ team who are some of the top players in the country. There are excellent players at many schools , big, small,good and bad.
says the G..C. parent. Maybe , Maybe not. Still a lot of girls in that program, the junior stud is a for real blue chip with a real good goalie. and strong support players. Not much happening in G.C. that I can see. Hard to believe your a real G.C. parent though, usually there is a higher amount of respect between the two programs so I suspect your probably not. I never said the 8th graders weren't good players, I never said that a 'set girl is automatically better than anyone, why are you Y.J parents so hostile and threatened by the success of people from other places? your kids are also very good, be happy. The other poster was right D.G has only been head coach for 9 years at 'set with 2 trips to big game, statistically speaking, that makes her a more successful coach than Carol Rose, but less successful than both Tracy Weiner, and Chappy. Lets be honest for a minuet ok, truths that after 2015 Long Island girls lacrosse as a whole takes a nose dive. the last 3 to 5 years have had classes so outstanding, but not so much any more, can anyone explain why? is it just a coincidence that it seems to be in lock step with the expansion of club lacrosse? I think as a whole we need to find ourselves again. Just my opinion
Manhasset and Garden City are clueless . You people are so blind you can't even see the train coming!!!!
where is the train coming from? Set is the team to beat on LI ... and everyone knows it. This is their year. Respectfully, they would beat anyone in the A, B and C. GC and Wantagh both have a chance... and anything can happen, but Set seems to have top notch players and an excellent coach. Prediction: Set State B champs, 2015.
Your Manhasset team falls off a cliff after this year and your youth teams are below average so GC will be the team to beat in Nassau . When you said " doesn't compare" you just look like the conceited arrogant type parent that makes people repulsed by you. So arrogant to state that any 6 year starter at a weak program does not compare to your second year daughter who has ridden on the coat tails of others in your program. My daughter plays at GC and believe me she has many kids who played varsity in 8 th grade on her YJ team who are some of the top players in the country. There are excellent players at many schools , big, small,good and bad.
Does pretending to be from GC make you feel better about yourself or are you just trying to start a food fight between two classy rivals that respect each other?
Fact - no 8th grader would dare even show up for the varsity tryout. It's well established that Chappy doesn't want to see middle school kids, so don't even bother. Freshman making Varsity in GC is a big deal. Not to mention the Middle School's 8th grade coach is as good as any HS coach in LI, so anyone trying to skip that year of free training would be a fool.
Please just go away jealous poseur. You don't have enough information to even pretend to be from GC.
"A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program."
That is your original pompous quote, so essentially you are saying its where you are from not how good you are, No one said they had an 8th grader that is or was all that. As far as the 2016 blue chipper from Manhasset , no one knows who you are talking about because there are none. Your 2015 class is very good but it takes a nose dive after that and your best young prospect wants nothing to do with the program. The person stating LI lacrosse takes a nose dive after 2015 is just ignorant or is from SET so has only seen players from that town in which case it would be true. Many of the top recruits in the country for 2016 are from long island and unfortunately for you pompous idiots some are from bad high school programs and have tallied a lot of career points and some are from traditional powerhouse schools. Stop bashing kids for their accomplishments , seems as if you are the jealous loser because these kids had the opportunity to play varsity as 7th and 8th graders.
"A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program."
That is your original pompous quote, so essentially you are saying its where you are from not how good you are, No one said they had an 8th grader that is or was all that. As far as the 2016 blue chipper from Manhasset , no one knows who you are talking about because there are none. Your 2015 class is very good but it takes a nose dive after that and your best young prospect wants nothing to do with the program. The person stating LI lacrosse takes a nose dive after 2015 is just ignorant or is from SET so has only seen players from that town in which case it would be true. Many of the top recruits in the country for 2016 are from long island and unfortunately for you pompous idiots some are from bad high school programs and have tallied a lot of career points and some are from traditional powerhouse schools. Stop bashing kids for their accomplishments , seems as if you are the jealous loser because these kids had the opportunity to play varsity as 7th and 8th graders.
She's an angry elf.
"A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program."
That is your original pompous quote, so essentially you are saying its where you are from not how good you are, No one said they had an 8th grader that is or was all that. As far as the 2016 blue chipper from Manhasset , no one knows who you are talking about because there are none. Your 2015 class is very good but it takes a nose dive after that and your best young prospect wants nothing to do with the program. The person stating LI lacrosse takes a nose dive after 2015 is just ignorant or is from SET so has only seen players from that town in which case it would be true. Many of the top recruits in the country for 2016 are from long island and unfortunately for you pompous idiots some are from bad high school programs and have tallied a lot of career points and some are from traditional powerhouse schools. Stop bashing kids for their accomplishments , seems as if you are the jealous loser because these kids had the opportunity to play varsity as 7th and 8th graders.
She's an angry elf.
There is an 8th grader on top scorer list for suffolk county. Some of the middle school kids can play!
"A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program."
That is your original pompous quote, so essentially you are saying its where you are from not how good you are, No one said they had an 8th grader that is or was all that. As far as the 2016 blue chipper from Manhasset , no one knows who you are talking about because there are none. Your 2015 class is very good but it takes a nose dive after that and your best young prospect wants nothing to do with the program. The person stating LI lacrosse takes a nose dive after 2015 is just ignorant or is from SET so has only seen players from that town in which case it would be true. Many of the top recruits in the country for 2016 are from long island and unfortunately for you pompous idiots some are from bad high school programs and have tallied a lot of career points and some are from traditional powerhouse schools. Stop bashing kids for their accomplishments , seems as if you are the jealous loser because these kids had the opportunity to play varsity as 7th and 8th graders.
She's an angry elf.
There is an 8th grader on top scorer list for suffolk county. Some of the middle school kids can play!
What town is she from?
Yes many middle school age kids can play, but why is everyone getting so caught up in statistics. One of the top three 2015 players and one of the top three 2016 players who dominate every game they play in are not on the top scores list. Statistics are very misleading. Some of the top scorers are legitimate blue chip players but many are a product of the team they play on, the system they play in and/or strength of schedule. Many are also one dimensional players that do not contribute to getting drawer controls, causing turnovers or getting ground balls.
"A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program."
That is your original pompous quote, so essentially you are saying its where you are from not how good you are, No one said they had an 8th grader that is or was all that. As far as the 2016 blue chipper from Manhasset , no one knows who you are talking about because there are none. Your 2015 class is very good but it takes a nose dive after that and your best young prospect wants nothing to do with the program. The person stating LI lacrosse takes a nose dive after 2015 is just ignorant or is from SET so has only seen players from that town in which case it would be true. Many of the top recruits in the country for 2016 are from long island and unfortunately for you pompous idiots some are from bad high school programs and have tallied a lot of career points and some are from traditional powerhouse schools. Stop bashing kids for their accomplishments , seems as if you are the jealous loser because these kids had the opportunity to play varsity as 7th and 8th graders.
She's an angry elf.
Yes she is, almost every post she makes drips with anger and jealousy. Lets see if we can't calm her down.
1- you are talking to many different people, not just one. In an attempt to ease your anger addled mind, I am the poster that said that
a.How are the teams with the 6 year starters doing today? Could any of those teams beat Liberty/Manhasset? a question you haven't answered.
b.Never said anyone from 'set was automatically better,
2-I don't know if your the poster that says your from G.C. but I think you are , if that is true than I also said,"Hard to believe your a real G.C. parent though, usually there is a higher amount of respect between the two programs so I suspect your probably not."
I truly believe you need to calm down, there is no reason to disparage another towns program or another clubs team. If your happy with your daughters ability, and club of choice than do the "grown up" thing and try to stop bashing other. I am sure your very proud of your daughter, and I hope she is as good as you think, One thing is for sure, if you don't know who the '16 stud is from 'set, or the goalie for that matter, than you are not really following girls/woman's lacrosse, and your not from G.C.
Too many bad coaches at the HS level. Manhasset, Northport, and CSH coaches win games because they have outstanding players. The three of them (just using examples, there are plenty more) are verbally abusive and self-centered. They should not be getting paid to teach children. I have close friends on CSH (my daughter plays with some in the summer) and it sounds like she is a psycho. This past weekend her halftime speech to the girls, who were only losing to the #4 team in the country by 2, was that they "suck" and "they will never be a great team". She also went on to personally embarrass and insult specific girls. Why do we as parents let this go on? Disgusting instructors like this need to be stopped.
"A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program."
That is your original pompous quote, so essentially you are saying its where you are from not how good you are, No one said they had an 8th grader that is or was all that. As far as the 2016 blue chipper from Manhasset , no one knows who you are talking about because there are none. Your 2015 class is very good but it takes a nose dive after that and your best young prospect wants nothing to do with the program. The person stating LI lacrosse takes a nose dive after 2015 is just ignorant or is from SET so has only seen players from that town in which case it would be true. Many of the top recruits in the country for 2016 are from long island and unfortunately for you pompous idiots some are from bad high school programs and have tallied a lot of career points and some are from traditional powerhouse schools. Stop bashing kids for their accomplishments , seems as if you are the jealous loser because these kids had the opportunity to play varsity as 7th and 8th graders.
She's an angry elf.
Yes she is, almost every post she makes drips with anger and jealousy. Lets see if we can't calm her down.
1- you are talking to many different people, not just one. In an attempt to ease your anger addled mind, I am the poster that said that
a.How are the teams with the 6 year starters doing today? Could any of those teams beat Liberty/Manhasset? a question you haven't answered.
b.Never said anyone from 'set was automatically better,
2-I don't know if your the poster that says your from G.C. but I think you are , if that is true than I also said,"Hard to believe your a real G.C. parent though, usually there is a higher amount of respect between the two programs so I suspect your probably not."
I truly believe you need to calm down, there is no reason to disparage another towns program or another clubs team. If your happy with your daughters ability, and club of choice than do the "grown up" thing and try to stop bashing other. I am sure your very proud of your daughter, and I hope she is as good as you think, One thing is for sure, if you don't know who the '16 stud is from 'set, or the goalie for that matter, than you are not really following girls/woman's lacrosse, and your not from G.C.
Mt sinai has 2 6 year starters and have had as much or more success in that time period as Manhasset (2 state championship appearances. The truth is every situation is different but if you are looking at the newsday stats as an indicator of who the best players are you are just ignorant or your kid happens to be on the newday list.
"A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program."
That is your original pompous quote, so essentially you are saying its where you are from not how good you are, No one said they had an 8th grader that is or was all that. As far as the 2016 blue chipper from Manhasset , no one knows who you are talking about because there are none. Your 2015 class is very good but it takes a nose dive after that and your best young prospect wants nothing to do with the program. The person stating LI lacrosse takes a nose dive after 2015 is just ignorant or is from SET so has only seen players from that town in which case it would be true. Many of the top recruits in the country for 2016 are from long island and unfortunately for you pompous idiots some are from bad high school programs and have tallied a lot of career points and some are from traditional powerhouse schools. Stop bashing kids for their accomplishments , seems as if you are the jealous loser because these kids had the opportunity to play varsity as 7th and 8th graders.
She's an angry elf.
Yes she is, almost every post she makes drips with anger and jealousy. Lets see if we can't calm her down.
1- you are talking to many different people, not just one. In an attempt to ease your anger addled mind, I am the poster that said that
a.How are the teams with the 6 year starters doing today? Could any of those teams beat Liberty/Manhasset? a question you haven't answered.
b.Never said anyone from 'set was automatically better,
2-I don't know if your the poster that says your from G.C. but I think you are , if that is true than I also said,"Hard to believe your a real G.C. parent though, usually there is a higher amount of respect between the two programs so I suspect your probably not."
I truly believe you need to calm down, there is no reason to disparage another towns program or another clubs team. If your happy with your daughters ability, and club of choice than do the "grown up" thing and try to stop bashing other. I am sure your very proud of your daughter, and I hope she is as good as you think, One thing is for sure, if you don't know who the '16 stud is from 'set, or the goalie for that matter, than you are not really following girls/woman's lacrosse, and your not from G.C.
Its difficult to answer your questions as they are absurd.
a) the top teams in each of section xi three divisions all have 6 year starters on them so I would say they are doing quite well. How would they do playing Liberty, who knows as you are trying to compare a travel team with a school team that being said each of those 6 year starters are on a travel team that dominates Liberty every time they play.
b) when you say a player does not compare to any 2nd year set player you look like a pompous idiot.
c) what makes the 2016 Manhasset kid a real blue chip player as I honestly do not know who you are talking about, was she on top school girls team, or top under armour team , or the U19 US team, or invited to nike the ride,or ranked very high as a recruit. I am sure I do not know all the 2016 blue chip players but would say GC has at least 3 2016 who would be higher on that list.
Its all about Daddy's girl getting the glory.
Too many bad coaches at the HS level. Manhasset, Northport, and CSH coaches win games because they have outstanding players. The three of them (just using examples, there are plenty more) are verbally abusive and self-centered. They should not be getting paid to teach children. I have close friends on CSH (my daughter plays with some in the summer) and it sounds like she is a psycho. This past weekend her halftime speech to the girls, who were only losing to the #4 team in the country by 2, was that they "suck" and "they will never be a great team". She also went on to personally embarrass and insult specific girls. Why do we as parents let this go on? Disgusting instructors like this need to be stopped.
Wahhh... the coach yells at my daughter
"A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program."
That is your original pompous quote, so essentially you are saying its where you are from not how good you are, No one said they had an 8th grader that is or was all that. As far as the 2016 blue chipper from Manhasset , no one knows who you are talking about because there are none. Your 2015 class is very good but it takes a nose dive after that and your best young prospect wants nothing to do with the program. The person stating LI lacrosse takes a nose dive after 2015 is just ignorant or is from SET so has only seen players from that town in which case it would be true. Many of the top recruits in the country for 2016 are from long island and unfortunately for you pompous idiots some are from bad high school programs and have tallied a lot of career points and some are from traditional powerhouse schools. Stop bashing kids for their accomplishments , seems as if you are the jealous loser because these kids had the opportunity to play varsity as 7th and 8th graders.
She's an angry elf.
Yes she is, almost every post she makes drips with anger and jealousy. Lets see if we can't calm her down.
1- you are talking to many different people, not just one. In an attempt to ease your anger addled mind, I am the poster that said that
a.How are the teams with the 6 year starters doing today? Could any of those teams beat Liberty/Manhasset? a question you haven't answered.
b.Never said anyone from 'set was automatically better,
2-I don't know if your the poster that says your from G.C. but I think you are , if that is true than I also said,"Hard to believe your a real G.C. parent though, usually there is a higher amount of respect between the two programs so I suspect your probably not."
I truly believe you need to calm down, there is no reason to disparage another towns program or another clubs team. If your happy with your daughters ability, and club of choice than do the "grown up" thing and try to stop bashing other. I am sure your very proud of your daughter, and I hope she is as good as you think, One thing is for sure, if you don't know who the '16 stud is from 'set, or the goalie for that matter, than you are not really following girls/woman's lacrosse, and your not from G.C.
Its difficult to answer your questions as they are absurd.
a) the top teams in each of section xi three divisions all have 6 year starters on them so I would say they are doing quite well. How would they do playing Liberty, who knows as you are trying to compare a travel team with a school team that being said each of those 6 year starters are on a travel team that dominates Liberty every time they play.
b) when you say a player does not compare to any 2nd year set player you look like a pompous idiot.
c) what makes the 2016 Manhasset kid a real blue chip player as I honestly do not know who you are talking about, was she on top school girls team, or top under armour team , or the U19 US team, or invited to nike the ride,or ranked very high as a recruit. I am sure I do not know all the 2016 blue chip players but would say GC has at least 3 2016 who would be higher on that list.
My god, you really are that stupid. for the fourth time, I never said a 6 year starter is not better than any 'set player, for the love of Christ either learn some reading comprehension, get some one to explain it to you, or stop posting.You first say your from G.C. , but now it seems your from the gold and blue kingdom out east. please get your lies straight and stick to one. I hate to tell you but suffolk lacrosse, set aside Mt. S, BBP , M.C. Saville and E.S.M is really bad, and none of them can compete with "set, Wantaugh, C.S.H, or your beloved G.C. In answer to your C) point, yes. look a little further west than 110. Again for the record , my daughter plays in suffolk. please read this twice before you answer and stop trying to convince yourself that I said something that I didn't.
Csh-absolutely not true. None of those words were used! Please stop making stuff up
Too many bad coaches at the HS level. Manhasset, Northport, and CSH coaches win games because they have outstanding players. The three of them (just using examples, there are plenty more) are verbally abusive and self-centered. They should not be getting paid to teach children. I have close friends on CSH (my daughter plays with some in the summer) and it sounds like she is a psycho. This past weekend her halftime speech to the girls, who were only losing to the #4 team in the country by 2, was that they "suck" and "they will never be a great team". She also went on to personally embarrass and insult specific girls. Why do we as parents let this go on? Disgusting instructors like this need to be stopped.
No truth to this. Find new friends
Wahhh... the coach yells at my daughter
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Too many bad coaches at the HS level. Manhasset, Northport, and CSH coaches win games because they have outstanding players. The three of them (just using examples, there are plenty more) are verbally abusive and self-centered. They should not be getting paid to teach children. I have close friends on CSH (my daughter plays with some in the summer) and it sounds like she is a psycho. This past weekend her halftime speech to the girls, who were only losing to the #4 team in the country by 2, was that they "suck" and "they will never be a great team". She also went on to personally embarrass and insult specific girls. Why do we as parents let this go on? Disgusting instructors like this need to be stopped.
Lighten up, Francis!
Too many bad coaches at the HS level. Manhasset, Northport, and CSH coaches win games because they have outstanding players. The three of them (just using examples, there are plenty more) are verbally abusive and self-centered. They should not be getting paid to teach children. I have close friends on CSH (my daughter plays with some in the summer) and it sounds like she is a psycho. This past weekend her halftime speech to the girls, who were only losing to the #4 team in the country by 2, was that they "suck" and "they will never be a great team". She also went on to personally embarrass and insult specific girls. Why do we as parents let this go on? Disgusting instructors like this need to be stopped.
No truth to this. Find new friends
Wahhh... the coach yells at my daughter
The truth is verbal abuse is everywhere but it was more wide spread in football and boys sports and now the girls are dealing with. No coach has the right to verbally abuse a child whether they are losing, think they suck or makes a mistake. They should be fired. It's not about "wahh your yelling at my daughter" it's abuse!!! Whether it's high school, club or college it's not tolerated. College coaches are fired for this for both men and women high school should be no different. I was on the sidelines last year behind the ESM bench and heard BT tell a kid she was the worse f-Ing player she ever coached. I have witnessed CR do the same. Top programs or not these are your children!!
Too many bad coaches at the HS level. Manhasset, Northport, and CSH coaches win games because they have outstanding players. The three of them (just using examples, there are plenty more) are verbally abusive and self-centered. They should not be getting paid to teach children. I have close friends on CSH (my daughter plays with some in the summer) and it sounds like she is a psycho. This past weekend her halftime speech to the girls, who were only losing to the #4 team in the country by 2, was that they "suck" and "they will never be a great team". She also went on to personally embarrass and insult specific girls. Why do we as parents let this go on? Disgusting instructors like this need to be stopped.
No truth to this. Find new friends
Wahhh... the coach yells at my daughter
The truth is verbal abuse is everywhere but it was more wide spread in football and boys sports and now the girls are dealing with. No coach has the right to verbally abuse a child whether they are losing, think they suck or makes a mistake. They should be fired. It's not about "wahh your yelling at my daughter" it's abuse!!! Whether it's high school, club or college it's not tolerated. College coaches are fired for this for both men and women high school should be no different. I was on the sidelines last year behind the ESM bench and heard BT tell a kid she was the worse f-Ing player she ever coached. I have witnessed CR do the same. Top programs or not these are your children!!
Your right it does go on, but people also come on here and make it up...which isn't right either.
Too many bad coaches at the HS level. Manhasset, Northport, and CSH coaches win games because they have outstanding players. The three of them (just using examples, there are plenty more) are verbally abusive and self-centered. They should not be getting paid to teach children. I have close friends on CSH (my daughter plays with some in the summer) and it sounds like she is a psycho. This past weekend her halftime speech to the girls, who were only losing to the #4 team in the country by 2, was that they "suck" and "they will never be a great team". She also went on to personally embarrass and insult specific girls. Why do we as parents let this go on? Disgusting instructors like this need to be stopped.
No truth to this. Find new friends
Wahhh... the coach yells at my daughter
The truth is verbal abuse is everywhere but it was more wide spread in football and boys sports and now the girls are dealing with. No coach has the right to verbally abuse a child whether they are losing, think they suck or makes a mistake. They should be fired. It's not about "wahh your yelling at my daughter" it's abuse!!! Whether it's high school, club or college it's not tolerated. College coaches are fired for this for both men and women high school should be no different. I was on the sidelines last year behind the ESM bench and heard BT tell a kid she was the worse f-Ing player she ever coached. I have witnessed CR do the same. Top programs or not these are your children!!
Your right it does go on, but people also come on here and make it up...which isn't right either.
I agree bc they are playing w a persons livelihood but as far as CR, BT and the likes of them they are truly out of control...not sure about csh
"A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program."
That is your original pompous quote, so essentially you are saying its where you are from not how good you are, No one said they had an 8th grader that is or was all that. As far as the 2016 blue chipper from Manhasset , no one knows who you are talking about because there are none. Your 2015 class is very good but it takes a nose dive after that and your best young prospect wants nothing to do with the program. The person stating LI lacrosse takes a nose dive after 2015 is just ignorant or is from SET so has only seen players from that town in which case it would be true. Many of the top recruits in the country for 2016 are from long island and unfortunately for you pompous idiots some are from bad high school programs and have tallied a lot of career points and some are from traditional powerhouse schools. Stop bashing kids for their accomplishments , seems as if you are the jealous loser because these kids had the opportunity to play varsity as 7th and 8th graders.
She's an angry elf.
Yes she is, almost every post she makes drips with anger and jealousy. Lets see if we can't calm her down.
1- you are talking to many different people, not just one. In an attempt to ease your anger addled mind, I am the poster that said that
a.How are the teams with the 6 year starters doing today? Could any of those teams beat Liberty/Manhasset? a question you haven't answered.
b.Never said anyone from 'set was automatically better,
2-I don't know if your the poster that says your from G.C. but I think you are , if that is true than I also said,"Hard to believe your a real G.C. parent though, usually there is a higher amount of respect between the two programs so I suspect your probably not."
I truly believe you need to calm down, there is no reason to disparage another towns program or another clubs team. If your happy with your daughters ability, and club of choice than do the "grown up" thing and try to stop bashing other. I am sure your very proud of your daughter, and I hope she is as good as you think, One thing is for sure, if you don't know who the '16 stud is from 'set, or the goalie for that matter, than you are not really following girls/woman's lacrosse, and your not from G.C.
Its difficult to answer your questions as they are absurd.
a) the top teams in each of section xi three divisions all have 6 year starters on them so I would say they are doing quite well. How would they do playing Liberty, who knows as you are trying to compare a travel team with a school team that being said each of those 6 year starters are on a travel team that dominates Liberty every time they play.
b) when you say a player does not compare to any 2nd year set player you look like a pompous idiot.
c) what makes the 2016 Manhasset kid a real blue chip player as I honestly do not know who you are talking about, was she on top school girls team, or top under armour team , or the U19 US team, or invited to nike the ride,or ranked very high as a recruit. I am sure I do not know all the 2016 blue chip players but would say GC has at least 3 2016 who would be higher on that list.
My god, you really are that stupid. for the fourth time, I never said a 6 year starter is not better than any 'set player, for the love of Christ either learn some reading comprehension, get some one to explain it to you, or stop posting.You first say your from G.C. , but now it seems your from the gold and blue kingdom out east. please get your lies straight and stick to one. I hate to tell you but suffolk lacrosse, set aside Mt. S, BBP , M.C. Saville and E.S.M is really bad, and none of them can compete with "set, Wantaugh, C.S.H, or your beloved G.C. In answer to your C) point, yes. look a little further west than 110. Again for the record , my daughter plays in suffolk. please read this twice before you answer and stop trying to convince yourself that I said something that I didn't.
aside from those teams who else is in Nassau???? Do you really think MT Sinai, ESM etc..can't COMPETE with those teams? You are crazy! Quick look at a common opponent from the weekend seems like Mt Sinai handled CBA a little easier than Wantaugh!
you are all so ridiculous and sound so stupid
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
Two of the best kids in the countRY? No
However, they do have one of the best 2020 kids in the counTY. This kid is actually producing.
As far as how the team is doing?? They haven't had any games against the top teams yet. Time will tell.
Your 'top 2020 girl in the country' is a ballhog
Csh-absolutely not true. None of those words were used! Please stop making stuff up
It is absolutely true - many complaints from previous players. I have an elementary school age daughter in CSH and I have heard many upsetting stories. A lot of people seem to like the coach outside of lax and say good things about her personality, but I hear that she can be very verbally abusive to the girls during games. I understand being in the heat of the moment, but saying degrading things is never okay. Let's lift these girls up instead of tearing them down - after all, it's a sport and it's supposed to be fun. Hopefully by the time my daughter gets to the varsity level she will have matured more and learned how to motivate the girls in a more positive way.
CSH coach says HORRIBLE things!!!!!!! Can't believe she hasn't been fired yet. I'm not one to believe rumors, I actually have heard things myself when my daughter plays against her team. She sounded like she was actually trying to embarrass them. We also have a coach who is extremely negative. It's a shame.
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
Two of the best kids in the countRY? No
However, they do have one of the best 2020 kids in the counTY. This kid is actually producing.
As far as how the team is doing?? They haven't had any games against the top teams yet. Time will tell.
Your 'top 2020 girl in the country' is a ballhog
The real test for WH is tomorrow when they play a top team. That will tell you who is a top player in the county.
OMG did you see the 0 fer game today. Copiague vs Brentwood. I thought it would be close as us indians have had a bad season. Copiague had some talent. but all we heard was the Copiaugue coach tell players to pass to number 1. too many times did we see players open 27, 12, 15 and 16 but it was about number 1. Copiague might have made a good game but we all focused on number 1, she scored 3 on us but many other players had a chance but were ignored. glad to see us have win but this was not lacrosse. Go indians
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
Two of the best kids in the countRY? No
However, they do have one of the best 2020 kids in the counTY. This kid is actually producing.
As far as how the team is doing?? They haven't had any games against the top teams yet. Time will tell.
Your 'top 2020 girl in the country' is a ballhog
Haha. Now we are going to bash on a 7th grader, 4 games into season? How about we talk about games and teams and not individual players. Too much drama on this page involving personal issues with children!!! Plus, while one may call a person a ball hog, others may call a top player. To each their own, but leave the kids out of it, especially when they are ao blatantly called out without putting their name down.
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
Two of the best kids in the countRY? No
However, they do have one of the best 2020 kids in the counTY. This kid is actually producing.
As far as how the team is doing?? They haven't had any games against the top teams yet. Time will tell.
Your 'top 2020 girl in the country' is a ballhog
Haha. Now we are going to bash on a 7th grader, 4 games into season? How about we talk about games and teams and not individual players. Too much drama on this page involving personal issues with children!!! Plus, while one may call a person a ball hog, others may call a top player. To each their own, but leave the kids out of it, especially when they are ao blatantly called out without putting their name down.
9 times out of 10 a player in this situation is the focus because the parent is on here bragging. No one would even be talking about West Hampton if not for the parent of this kid so please don't vilify people because a parent wants to brag
Everyone on here lies through there kid and has no idea about this sport
Half of you wish to be a coach very sad
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
Two of the best kids in the countRY? No
However, they do have one of the best 2020 kids in the counTY. This kid is actually producing.
As far as how the team is doing?? They haven't had any games against the top teams yet. Time will tell.
Your 'top 2020 girl in the country' is a ballhog
The real test for WH is tomorrow when they play a top team. That will tell you who is a top player in the county.
Westhampton got lit up by Babylon, what else do you need to know and the best 7th grader on the field that day didn't play for Westhampton!
Here's one for all the crazy travel parents that bring up their kids on here and then get sensitive when people are critical of them.
Doesn't matter whether they are in 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th or 12th.... tell them to PASS THE BALL and no one will ever say boo about them! If they want to play it like travel where it's all about them, get ready for the anonymous arrows.
Here's one for all the crazy travel parents that bring up their kids on here and then get sensitive when people are critical of them.
Doesn't matter whether they are in 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th or 12th.... tell them to PASS THE BALL and no one will ever say boo about them! If they want to play it like travel where it's all about them, get ready for the anonymous arrows.
It's not just the travel kids, we have a girl on our team who goes to the goal every time she touches the ball. She loses it 90% of the time because she can't run with the ball in her stick and gets double and triple teamed but refuses to look up and pass. And the coaches allow it, over and over. Frustrating.
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
Two of the best kids in the countRY? No
However, they do have one of the best 2020 kids in the counTY. This kid is actually producing.
As far as how the team is doing?? They haven't had any games against the top teams yet. Time will tell.
Your 'top 2020 girl in the country' is a ballhog
Takes a special kind of dirt bag to call out a 7th grade girl, especially one that is nothing but a polite, smart, athletic, young lady. Nice job!
Too many bad coaches at the HS level. Manhasset, Northport, and CSH coaches win games because they have outstanding players. The three of them (just using examples, there are plenty more) are verbally abusive and self-centered. They should not be getting paid to teach children. I have close friends on CSH (my daughter plays with some in the summer) and it sounds like she is a psycho. This past weekend her halftime speech to the girls, who were only losing to the #4 team in the country by 2, was that they "suck" and "they will never be a great team". She also went on to personally embarrass and insult specific girls. Why do we as parents let this go on? Disgusting instructors like this need to be stopped.
I am surprised that CSH administrators would let this go on. Somebody should be monitoring this behavior and stepping in to correct this. There are 15 year old girls on the team with their entire left ahead of them. They should not be insulted by an irate person like this. CSH administrators should take some action here.
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
Two of the best kids in the countRY? No
However, they do have one of the best 2020 kids in the counTY. This kid is actually producing.
As far as how the team is doing?? They haven't had any games against the top teams yet. Time will tell.
Your 'top 2020 girl in the country' is a ballhog
Takes a special kind of dirt bag to call out a 7th grade girl, especially one that is nothing but a polite, smart, athletic, young lady. Nice job!
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I agree with the dirt bag comment, but if you come on here and claim that someone is top in the country your going to get that. Especially when she is a hold back.
Its difficult to answer your questions as they are absurd.
a) the top teams in each of section xi three divisions all have 6 year starters on them so I would say they are doing quite well. How would they do playing Liberty, who knows as you are trying to compare a travel team with a school team that being said each of those 6 year starters are on a travel team that dominates Liberty every time they play.
b) when you say a player does not compare to any 2nd year set player you look like a pompous idiot.
c) what makes the 2016 Manhasset kid a real blue chip player as I honestly do not know who you are talking about, was she on top school girls team, or top under armour team , or the U19 US team, or invited to nike the ride,or ranked very high as a recruit. I am sure I do not know all the 2016 blue chip players but would say GC has at least 3 2016 who would be higher on that list. [/quote]My god, you really are that stupid. for the fourth time, I never said a 6 year starter is not better than any 'set player, for the love of Christ either learn some reading comprehension, get some one to explain it to you, or stop posting.You first say your from G.C. , but now it seems your from the gold and blue kingdom out east. please get your lies straight and stick to one. I hate to tell you but suffolk lacrosse, set aside Mt. S, BBP , M.C. Saville and E.S.M is really bad, and none of them can compete with "set, Wantaugh, C.S.H, or your beloved G.C. In answer to your C) point, yes. look a little further west than 110. Again for the record , my daughter plays in suffolk. please read this twice before you answer and stop trying to convince yourself that I said something that I didn't. [/quote]
I hate to tell you but suffolk lacrosse, set aside Mt. S, BBP , M.C. Saville and E.S.M is really bad, and none of them can compete with "set, Wantaugh, C.S.H, or your beloved G.C. In answer to your C) point, yes. look a little further west than 110.
You show your ignorance every time you post. Do you really believe Mt. Sinai could not compete with any of those schools then you are just clueless.If you believe Huntington could not compete with those teams it again just shows you are clueless.Next you will be saying that you never said no team in Suffolk could compete with the top 4 teams in Nassau. Still waiting on your assessment of what makes a kid a blue chip player other than you saying so. Lets make it easy for you to understand, according to you there is no player from lets say West Babylon (a weak program) that can "compare" to any "2 Year impact player at a strong program." Anyone who knows lacrosse can see you are just ignorant.The point is there are many excellent players on Long Island , some are at weak programs , some are at top programs.
Here's one for all the crazy travel parents that bring up their kids on here and then get sensitive when people are critical of them.
Doesn't matter whether they are in 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th or 12th.... tell them to PASS THE BALL and no one will ever say boo about them! If they want to play it like travel where it's all about them, get ready for the anonymous arrows.
It's not just the travel kids, we have a girl on our team who goes to the goal every time she touches the ball. She loses it 90% of the time because she can't run with the ball in her stick and gets double and triple teamed but refuses to look up and pass. And the coaches allow it, over and over. Frustrating.
Every team has a kid like that. If the coach lets it happen and rewards that, then it is going to continue to happen. We played a team where they would give the ball to the same girl every time and then run an iso play. The girl wasn't very good and took bad shots. Any coach that does that should not be coaching. It's a team sport and even if you can beat a few bad teams that way you will never beat any decent or good teams. It's a team sport and these coaches should wake up and teach it that way.
Mt. Sinai is probably the only TEAM in suffolk that could compete with Nassau. Huntington is good for suffolk witch as a whole is very weak. There are, absolutely, very good individual players on many teams on both Nassau and Suffolk, But being a team game I have to say Nassau has the best TEAMS ( again I will say MT. Sinai is a very good team, Sayville also plays very well as a TEAM). That is what you chest pounding ignoramuses from the young Y.J. teams don't get. Your all so worried about YOUR kid getting accolades that your team suffers, and you sound like a pompous a$$. Until you start teaching your daughter how to make her team better as opposed to having to carry them your school teams will always suffer.Look at M.C. one of the best seniors in the state more assists than goals, team is winning. I will not discuss the "16 from 'set anymore, if you really want to know ask around any real lacrosse parent will tell you.
If you look at all the towns mentioned they all have one thing in common, they care about there Varsity as much as there club and the players, coaches and parents all put town ahead of club. Most parents from weaker districts are all in for club and shun P.A.L. and thats why your superstar, that you deem too good to play with those "lesser talented" players from your town will always play for a non competitive Varsity. If you and your kid really cared about Varsity you would have tried to help those "lesser players" not degrade them.
Mt. Sinai is probably the only TEAM in suffolk that could compete with Nassau. Huntington is good for suffolk witch as a whole is very weak. There are, absolutely, very good individual players on many teams on both Nassau and Suffolk, But being a team game I have to say Nassau has the best TEAMS ( again I will say MT. Sinai is a very good team, Sayville also plays very well as a TEAM). That is what you chest pounding ignoramuses from the young Y.J. teams don't get. Your all so worried about YOUR kid getting accolades that your team suffers, and you sound like a pompous a$$. Until you start teaching your daughter how to make her team better as opposed to having to carry them your school teams will always suffer.Look at M.C. one of the best seniors in the state more assists than goals, team is winning. I will not discuss the "16 from 'set anymore, if you really want to know ask around any real lacrosse parent will tell you.
If you look at all the towns mentioned they all have one thing in common, they care about there Varsity as much as there club and the players, coaches and parents all put town ahead of club. Most parents from weaker districts are all in for club and shun P.A.L. and thats why your superstar, that you deem too good to play with those "lesser talented" players from your town will always play for a non competitive Varsity. If you and your kid really cared about Varsity you would have tried to help those "lesser players" not degrade them.
Take a coaching clinic, if you are running isolation plays the instructor hammers you!
If you look at all the towns mentioned they all have one thing in common, they care about there Varsity as much as there club and the players, coaches and parents all put town ahead of club. Most parents from weaker districts are all in for club and shun P.A.L. and thats why your superstar, that you deem too good to play with those "lesser talented" players from your town will always play for a non competitive Varsity. If you and your kid really cared about Varsity you would have tried to help those "lesser players" not degrade them.
GREAT POST, This sums up our town perfectly. We actually have to beg kids to play varsity and jv after years of this mentality
Mt. Sinai is probably the only TEAM in suffolk that could compete with Nassau. Huntington is good for suffolk witch as a whole is very weak. There are, absolutely, very good individual players on many teams on both Nassau and Suffolk, But being a team game I have to say Nassau has the best TEAMS ( again I will say MT. Sinai is a very good team, Sayville also plays very well as a TEAM). That is what you chest pounding ignoramuses from the young Y.J. teams don't get. Your all so worried about YOUR kid getting accolades that your team suffers, and you sound like a pompous a$$. Until you start teaching your daughter how to make her team better as opposed to having to carry them your school teams will always suffer.Look at M.C. one of the best seniors in the state more assists than goals, team is winning. I will not discuss the "16 from 'set anymore, if you really want to know ask around any real lacrosse parent will tell you.
If you look at all the towns mentioned they all have one thing in common, they care about there Varsity as much as there club and the players, coaches and parents all put town ahead of club. Most parents from weaker districts are all in for club and shun P.A.L. and thats why your superstar, that you deem too good to play with those "lesser talented" players from your town will always play for a non competitive Varsity. If you and your kid really cared about Varsity you would have tried to help those "lesser players" not degrade them.
Take a coaching clinic, if you are running isolation plays the instructor hammers you!
Great players get assist when they have kids around them that can finish!!!
Some kids are in programs were they're roll changes each season. Zthbwsz
How's the Westhsmpton HS team doing ? I heard they have two of the best players in the country.
This is the post that started all you pathetic people posting obnoxious stuff about a 12-13 year old. You fell for the bait placed by some adult that is jealous of a little kid, no way did mom or dad post this garbage.
Mt. Sinai is probably the only TEAM in suffolk that could compete with Nassau. Huntington is good for suffolk witch as a whole is very weak. There are, absolutely, very good individual players on many teams on both Nassau and Suffolk, But being a team game I have to say Nassau has the best TEAMS ( again I will say MT. Sinai is a very good team, Sayville also plays very well as a TEAM). That is what you chest pounding ignoramuses from the young Y.J. teams don't get. Your all so worried about YOUR kid getting accolades that your team suffers, and you sound like a pompous a$$. Until you start teaching your daughter how to make her team better as opposed to having to carry them your school teams will always suffer.Look at M.C. one of the best seniors in the state more assists than goals, team is winning. I will not discuss the "16 from 'set anymore, if you really want to know ask around any real lacrosse parent will tell you.
If you look at all the towns mentioned they all have one thing in common, they care about there Varsity as much as there club and the players, coaches and parents all put town ahead of club. Most parents from weaker districts are all in for club and shun P.A.L. and thats why your superstar, that you deem too good to play with those "lesser talented" players from your town will always play for a non competitive Varsity. If you and your kid really cared about Varsity you would have tried to help those "lesser players" not degrade them.
Now I know why the person you were discussing this with got so frustrated, you change your story with every post . First no Suffolk team could compete with those top Nassau teams now only Mt. Sinai can. I would never claim to be an English major but if you are going to come on this site and insult peoples reading comprehension at least get a grasp of their compared with there.
Mt. Sinai is probably the only TEAM in suffolk that could compete with Nassau. Huntington is good for suffolk witch as a whole is very weak. There are, absolutely, very good individual players on many teams on both Nassau and Suffolk, But being a team game I have to say Nassau has the best TEAMS ( again I will say MT. Sinai is a very good team, Sayville also plays very well as a TEAM). That is what you chest pounding ignoramuses from the young Y.J. teams don't get. Your all so worried about YOUR kid getting accolades that your team suffers, and you sound like a pompous a$$. Until you start teaching your daughter how to make her team better as opposed to having to carry them your school teams will always suffer.Look at M.C. one of the best seniors in the state more assists than goals, team is winning. I will not discuss the "16 from 'set anymore, if you really want to know ask around any real lacrosse parent will tell you.
If you look at all the towns mentioned they all have one thing in common, they care about there Varsity as much as there club and the players, coaches and parents all put town ahead of club. Most parents from weaker districts are all in for club and shun P.A.L. and thats why your superstar, that you deem too good to play with those "lesser talented" players from your town will always play for a non competitive Varsity. If you and your kid really cared about Varsity you would have tried to help those "lesser players" not degrade them.
Now I know why the person you were discussing this with got so frustrated, you change your story with every post . First no Suffolk team could compete with those top Nassau teams now only Mt. Sinai can. I would never claim to be an English major but if you are going to come on this site and insult peoples reading comprehension at least get a grasp of their compared with there.
I was being nice No suffolk B, or C can beat Nassau Mt. S is more dirty than good. total y.j through and through. B and C will go to nassau A will be who is least bad on long Island and lose in states. Any other inconsistencies Mr. section XI not that your biased
Mt. Sinai is probably the only TEAM in suffolk that could compete with Nassau. Huntington is good for suffolk witch as a whole is very weak. There are, absolutely, very good individual players on many teams on both Nassau and Suffolk, But being a team game I have to say Nassau has the best TEAMS ( again I will say MT. Sinai is a very good team, Sayville also plays very well as a TEAM). That is what you chest pounding ignoramuses from the young Y.J. teams don't get. Your all so worried about YOUR kid getting accolades that your team suffers, and you sound like a pompous a$$. Until you start teaching your daughter how to make her team better as opposed to having to carry them your school teams will always suffer.Look at M.C. one of the best seniors in the state more assists than goals, team is winning. I will not discuss the "16 from 'set anymore, if you really want to know ask around any real lacrosse parent will tell you.
If you look at all the towns mentioned they all have one thing in common, they care about there Varsity as much as there club and the players, coaches and parents all put town ahead of club. Most parents from weaker districts are all in for club and shun P.A.L. and thats why your superstar, that you deem too good to play with those "lesser talented" players from your town will always play for a non competitive Varsity. If you and your kid really cared about Varsity you would have tried to help those "lesser players" not degrade them.
Now I know why the person you were discussing this with got so frustrated, you change your story with every post . First no Suffolk team could compete with those top Nassau teams now only Mt. Sinai can. I would never claim to be an English major but if you are going to come on this site and insult peoples reading comprehension at least get a grasp of their compared with there.
I was being nice No suffolk B, or C can beat Nassau Mt. S is more dirty than good. total y.j through and through. B and C will go to nassau A will be who is least bad on long Island and lose in states. Any other inconsistencies Mr. section XI not that your biased
Blah Blah Blah!!! Clueless
Mt. Sinai is probably the only TEAM in suffolk that could compete with Nassau. Huntington is good for suffolk witch as a whole is very weak. There are, absolutely, very good individual players on many teams on both Nassau and Suffolk, But being a team game I have to say Nassau has the best TEAMS ( again I will say MT. Sinai is a very good team, Sayville also plays very well as a TEAM). That is what you chest pounding ignoramuses from the young Y.J. teams don't get. Your all so worried about YOUR kid getting accolades that your team suffers, and you sound like a pompous a$$. Until you start teaching your daughter how to make her team better as opposed to having to carry them your school teams will always suffer.Look at M.C. one of the best seniors in the state more assists than goals, team is winning. I will not discuss the "16 from 'set anymore, if you really want to know ask around any real lacrosse parent will tell you.
If you look at all the towns mentioned they all have one thing in common, they care about there Varsity as much as there club and the players, coaches and parents all put town ahead of club. Most parents from weaker districts are all in for club and shun P.A.L. and thats why your superstar, that you deem too good to play with those "lesser talented" players from your town will always play for a non competitive Varsity. If you and your kid really cared about Varsity you would have tried to help those "lesser players" not degrade them.
Now I know why the person you were discussing this with got so frustrated, you change your story with every post . First no Suffolk team could compete with those top Nassau teams now only Mt. Sinai can. I would never claim to be an English major but if you are going to come on this site and insult peoples reading comprehension at least get a grasp of their compared with there.
and also which and witch
Best team in NC doesn't have a scorer in the top 20. #teamlax, #teamlaxtherightway
Best team in NC doesn't have a scorer in the top 20. #teamlax, #teamlaxtherightway
Sort of funny,yes they are the best team on Long Island and they do have one of the top goal scorers but looking at their stats not a lot of assists going on.Do they win because of team play or because they have the best athletes and players? Not trying to start trouble just get to watch them much so wondering are they an isolate and go to goal team who happen to have multiple kids that can score one on one.
Best team in NC doesn't have a scorer in the top 20. #teamlax, #teamlaxtherightway
If you are talking Lake Norman, their top goal scorer is absolutely among the leaders in the state. To her credit, also a leader among assists as well. Great team and they do play terrific team lacrosse.
Mount Sinai best team in suffolk county because they have a coach who is a great guy. He developes the players, is positive and a great role model. Any kid would be honoured to play for him. He does belittle or put the girls down. They make mistakes he boosts them up. No one is perfect but he teaches them how to rebound from mistakes that's why they are solid from the last player on their bench to their number one scorer. If you follow these ayers into college they are excelling both on and off the field there as well. No my kid does not go to Mt S she goes elsewhere but don't think I didn't consider moving for her to have the opportunity to at for AB vs where she is. Not all YJ coaches are his level they try to get results by yelling and screaming!!
Best team in NC doesn't have a scorer in the top 20. #teamlax, #teamlaxtherightway
Whats with the hashtags.. this isn't twitter or instagram.. hashtags are meaningless here...
Best team in NC doesn't have a scorer in the top 20. #teamlax, #teamlaxtherightway
Whats with the hashtags.. this isn't twitter or instagram.. hashtags are meaningless here...
Not to be rude, but saying the best team in NC does not really mean much. NC high school and club lacrosse is very weak. Also, I thought this was a Long Island forum?
CSH losing to Wantagh. Excellent teams on both ends. CSH was out coached. I'm a parent of a 6th grader who took my daughter to watch a great game and she even picked up on changes that should have been made on CSH's end that the coach clearly couldn't figure out until it was far too late in the game.
WOW you have one smart 6th grader.
CSH losing to Wantagh. Excellent teams on both ends. CSH was out coached. I'm a parent of a 6th grader who took my daughter to watch a great game and she even picked up on changes that should have been made on CSH's end that the coach clearly couldn't figure out until it was far too late in the game.
Wantagh team is excellent this year. Will be interesting to see which teams will be in the Nassau B final. Should be some good lacrosse in the coming weeks for Nassau Power Conference.
Best team in NC doesn't have a scorer in the top 20. #teamlax, #teamlaxtherightway
Whats with the hashtags.. this isn't twitter or instagram.. hashtags are meaningless here...
Not to be rude, but saying the best team in NC does not really mean much. NC high school and club lacrosse is very weak. Also, I thought this was a Long Island forum?
Is NC Nassau County or North Carolina
CSH losing to Wantagh. Excellent teams on both ends. CSH was out coached. I'm a parent of a 6th grader who took my daughter to watch a great game and she even picked up on changes that should have been made on CSH's end that the coach clearly couldn't figure out until it was far too late in the game.
Wantagh team is excellent this year. Will be interesting to see which teams will be in the Nassau B final. Should be some good lacrosse in the coming weeks for Nassau Power Conference.
Isn't Sold Spring in the small C division where you win one round and you are county champs?
CSH losing to Wantagh. Excellent teams on both ends. CSH was out coached. I'm a parent of a 6th grader who took my daughter to watch a great game and she even picked up on changes that should have been made on CSH's end that the coach clearly couldn't figure out until it was far too late in the game.
Wantagh team is excellent this year. Will be interesting to see which teams will be in the Nassau B final. Should be some good lacrosse in the coming weeks for Nassau Power Conference.
Isn't Sold Spring in the small C division where you win one round and you are county champs?
Yes and they should win it again. B's will come down to North Shore, GC, Wantagh, and Manhasset. The regular season games will determine seedings and who faces who in the semi's. A's are up for grabs.
Any team can lose on any given day. That's why they continue to play these games. No one is getting anointed in April as state champs in either Nassau or Suffolk. There are upsets every year. Just enjoy the competition over the next few weeks and let's see who the champs are when the dust settles.
Best team in NC doesn't have a scorer in the top 20. #teamlax, #teamlaxtherightway
Whats with the hashtags.. this isn't twitter or instagram.. hashtags are meaningless here...
Not to be rude, but saying the best team in NC does not really mean much. NC high school and club lacrosse is very weak. Also, I thought this was a Long Island forum?
Is NC Nassau County or North Carolina
Not the original poster, but I'm guessing Hashtag was referring to Nassau County.
The Nassau B conference is by far the strongest on LI and probably the state. Manhasset, GC & Wantagh are legit on a national level and North Shore is a very solid team as well. CSH will walk thru the Nassau C conference and if they meet Mt. Sinai for the LI C championship it should be a great game.
The Nassau A champion is up for grabs and a very weak conference. I think the Suffolk champ should be able to win that conference. Right now I would say either Middle Country or West Islip.
I do not know how smart the 6th grader is from CSH but I can tell you I went to that game last night and it was a barn burner. It was a game of goal streaks. Wantagh had a lead of 7 to 1 to start and 11 to 5 in the second half but the CSH pressure got to them but they held on...great game all around. I do not know how the CSH coach was out coached...I thought she made great adjustments to come back from being down big a couple of times.
No updates. everything is the same.
Nassau B is the best. CHS is really good in their league. Mt Sinai is top team in suffolk. Nassau A is not a tough league. Middle Country is strong, West Islip not very good and the rest of Suffolk A is very week. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, 7th 8th and 9th graders should not play varsity. Girls who score a lot of goals are ball hogs and travel parents are crazy.
No updates. everything is the same.
Nassau B is the best. CHS is really good in their league. Mt Sinai is top team in suffolk. Nassau A is not a tough league. Middle Country is strong, West Islip not very good and the rest of Suffolk A is very week. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, 7th 8th and 9th graders should not play varsity. Girls who score a lot of goals are ball hogs and travel parents are crazy.
You missed one thing , you are a loser with too much time on your hands
No updates. everything is the same.
Nassau B is the best. CHS is really good in their league. Mt Sinai is top team in suffolk. Nassau A is not a tough league. Middle Country is strong, West Islip not very good and the rest of Suffolk A is very week. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, 7th 8th and 9th graders should not play varsity. Girls who score a lot of goals are ball hogs and travel parents are crazy.
Lol best post of the week!
No updates. everything is the same.
Nassau B is the best. CHS is really good in their league. Mt Sinai is top team in suffolk. Nassau A is not a tough league. Middle Country is strong, West Islip not very good and the rest of Suffolk A is very week. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, 7th 8th and 9th graders should not play varsity. Girls who score a lot of goals are ball hogs and travel parents are crazy.
I think you captured it all. Shut down the thread!
No updates. everything is the same.
Nassau B is the best. CHS is really good in their league. Mt Sinai is top team in suffolk. Nassau A is not a tough league. Middle Country is strong, West Islip not very good and the rest of Suffolk A is very week. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, 7th 8th and 9th graders should not play varsity. Girls who score a lot of goals are ball hogs and travel parents are crazy.
You missed one thing , you are a loser with too much time on your hands
Wow!
That was an intelligent reply.
Another thing that was missed is that there are many trolls on this forum. Now crawl back under your rock and get busy hating, bashing and name calling. The above post was an attempt at sarcasm in order to poke fun at all of us. I guess that you were too busy to figure that out.
No updates. everything is the same.
Nassau B is the best. CHS is really good in their league. Mt Sinai is top team in suffolk. Nassau A is not a tough league. Middle Country is strong, West Islip not very good and the rest of Suffolk A is very week. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, 7th 8th and 9th graders should not play varsity. Girls who score a lot of goals are ball hogs and travel parents are crazy.
You missed one thing , you are a loser with too much time on your hands
Oh, c'mon, I thought it was a funny synopsis of the recent posts.
Smithtown East over Northport!
Smithtown East over Northport!
That's what happens when Northport runs the ball in only two players sticks.
Smithtown East over Northport!
That's what happens when Northport runs the ball in only two players sticks.
It's not just Northport. Lots of teams letting a few kids rack up lots of points but they will be the teams eliminated from the playoff early. I think some coaches and parents would rather have an all American rather than a team championship.
Does anyone have any experience/information on the USA lacrosse schoolgirls game? Is it a recruiting event? Is it worth trying out?
Does anyone have any experience/information on the USA lacrosse schoolgirls game? Is it a recruiting event? Is it worth trying out?
yes, its worth trying out, and although most players selected will already be verbally committed, there are certainly college coaches in attendance at the games.
selection of the three teams
May have a certain political bent to it.. if you beleive in that sort of stuff.
Does anyone have any experience/information on the USA lacrosse schoolgirls game? Is it a recruiting event? Is it worth trying out?
Yes its a recruiting event. Yes its worth trying out, but you need your HS coach's recommendation.
What are the big games today?
What are the big games today?
Elmont V Freeport
The Nassau B conference is by far the strongest on LI and probably the state. Manhasset, GC & Wantagh are legit on a national level and North Shore is a very solid team as well. CSH will walk thru the Nassau C conference and if they meet Mt. Sinai for the LI C championship it should be a great game.
The Nassau A champion is up for grabs and a very weak conference. I think the Suffolk champ should be able to win that conference. Right now I would say either Middle Country or West Islip.
I do not know how smart the 6th grader is from CSH but I can tell you I went to that game last night and it was a barn burner. It was a game of goal streaks. Wantagh had a lead of 7 to 1 to start and 11 to 5 in the second half but the CSH pressure got to them but they held on...great game all around. I do not know how the CSH coach was out coached...I thought she made great adjustments to come back from being down big a couple of times.
I was there too!! Great adjustments made all around. They even had the ball at the end for the tie. Well coached team!! Wantagh is great as well.
The Nassau B conference is by far the strongest on LI and probably the state. Manhasset, GC & Wantagh are legit on a national level and North Shore is a very solid team as well. CSH will walk thru the Nassau C conference and if they meet Mt. Sinai for the LI C championship it should be a great game.
The Nassau A champion is up for grabs and a very weak conference. I think the Suffolk champ should be able to win that conference. Right now I would say either Middle Country or West Islip.
I do not know how smart the 6th grader is from CSH but I can tell you I went to that game last night and it was a barn burner. It was a game of goal streaks. Wantagh had a lead of 7 to 1 to start and 11 to 5 in the second half but the CSH pressure got to them but they held on...great game all around. I do not know how the CSH coach was out coached...I thought she made great adjustments to come back from being down big a couple of times.
I was there too!! Great adjustments made all around. They even had the ball at the end for the tie. Well coached team!! Wantagh is great as well.
Wantagh is very good this year across the board. What adjustments were made besides switching the goalies with 7 minutes to go? I'm sorry but we must have been watching two different games.
CSH coach did not switch goalies until 7 minutes left in the game. No idea why she doesn't play her other goalie more, who is committed to BC. Other CSH goalie is very good, but when she's off (which she was in the Wantagh game, barely making a save in the first half and granted she was not getting much help from the D), switches need to be made. CSH coach makes no adjustments. She's a coach who got lucky by having a group of stud athletes who were taught how to play by other people.
Heard that CSH coach will never get fired because she's buddy buddy with the AD. Apparently calls him "Uncle Mikey" in front of people. So inappropriate.
Sounds like you CSH parents have major issues with the coach. I have also heard bad things, but thought she was getting better? Rumor was the she got a talking to from the school board after a bunch of people complained. Any truth to this?
I thought CSH started the game in a straight up man defense and Wantagh came out firing. I thought they switched to a backer zone with a lot of double pressure and that seemed to slow Wantagh down...also the yellow cards hurt Wantagh.
CSH never played a backer D. Learn the game
How are the CSH Asst's? Anyone ready to take over?
What is going on in Farmingdale? Nice win for GC today!
The coaching in Farmingdale isn't good.
Re Farmingdale: You can't always blame it ALL on a coach. If you don't have much to work with its hard to compete against teams that are more athletic AND have skill. Athleticism is a huge factor … Some years you have it, some you don't.
However, if your deficiencies on the field are because the coach is showcasing players who are not really the players that should be on the field because those players play (and pay) for a particular club with whom the coach is affiliated… then you CAN blame the coach.
Do not have a daughter on varsity lax team but saw Farmingdale play against comparable level team. Game went back and forth. Defense a bit loose at times. Draws weren't won consistently. Doesn't farmingdale have a lot of players committed to D1 programs? Are most starters yellow jacket members? Maybe mix things up a little with more subbing?
CSH never played a backer D. Learn the game
Did your 6th grader tell you that?
Again, I said I thought they went to a backer defense because any time Wantagh approached the 8 meter with the ball it looked like CSH would double which is what you see in most Backer zone defenses. This was happening down by the cage as well when one of the attack tried to come around. CSH would double right away. I thought the backer was the same girl...I could be wrong, sorry
Re Farmingdale: You can't always blame it ALL on a coach. If you don't have much to work with its hard to compete against teams that are more athletic AND have skill. Athleticism is a huge factor … Some years you have it, some you don't.
However, if your deficiencies on the field are because the coach is showcasing players who are not really the players that should be on the field because those players play (and pay) for a particular club with whom the coach is affiliated… then you CAN blame the coach.
So a conflict of interest with YJ's? interesting. It also shows that almost anyone could coach the yellow jacket top teams because it's not about the coaching but the talented players that they attract. ON a down talent year at Farmingdale she is doing nothing as a coach.
Sounds like you CSH parents have major issues with the coach. I have also heard bad things, but thought she was getting better? Rumor was the she got a talking to from the school board after a bunch of people complained. Any truth to this?
Sounds to me like some parents want there coach from club to take over ( oh yeah he lives in this district ) I have heard some bad things about him as well , something to do with the SEC . Be careful what you wish for!
Amazing to me that when a coach is successful you all come on here and say anyone could coach that team they are loaded with talent but when the same coach has a team that does not do well its the coaches fault.
St. Anthony's is not what it used to be… losing to GC 12-5 is a indicator … can not wait for their match up with SHA.
Sounds like you CSH parents have major issues with the coach. I have also heard bad things, but thought she was getting better? Rumor was the she got a talking to from the school board after a bunch of people complained. Any truth to this?
Sounds to me like some parents want there coach from club to take over ( oh yeah he lives in this district ) I have heard some bad things about him as well , something to do with the SEC . Be careful what you wish for!
I have not seen a CSH varsity game, but the coach is now working with my daughter for the third year as a club team coach and she has been fantastic. Encouraging to the young girls, respective to the players and parents and focused on their development. Most impressive during these younger years was very balanced playing time across the board and not a win at all cost focus.
Amazing to me that when a coach is successful you all come on here and say anyone could coach that team they are loaded with talent but when the same coach has a team that does not do well its the coaches fault.
The opposite happens too. Coach of 2020 TG black was applauded for coaching a loaded team. Its all how you spin it.
Tracy and Carol are over hyped. They are good coaches that usually have great players. If you can recruit the best players you don't need to be the best coach.
St. Anthony's is not what it used to be… losing to GC 12-5 is a indicator … can not wait for their match up with SHA.
It's funny on another website a Friar parent is boasting they are loaded and there is no drop off from prior years. If you only play 3-4 good teams a year you really need to beat them. Not the same program it once was. Go SHA!
SHA's stock on the rise… new field… will keep those Nassau girls now.
A lot of talented girls at SHA however they will not beat the good teams unless the coach improves her substitution patterns. Great players can only play great when well rested. why not use your bench when you have one ?
I am an avid reader of the BOTC. I am constantly reading people talk about some 7th grader being the best girl in the County and the Manhasset girls being amazing etc... Not to take anything away from those girls, but they can learn a lot from a young lady who I watched play last night. This young lady, Katie Hoeg, from small town Mattituck is the epitome of a well rounded, productive, unselfish, team oriented lacrosse player. She is so enjoyable to watch and UNC is lucky to be getting her. She makes everybody on her team a better player. Kudos to her parents!!
Amazing to me that when a coach is successful you all come on here and say anyone could coach that team they are loaded with talent but when the same coach has a team that does not do well its the coaches fault.
The opposite happens too. Coach of 2020 TG black was applauded for coaching a loaded team. Its all how you spin it.
He also coached up a not so loaded 2015 group that was very competitive up and down the east coast.
Amazing to me that when a coach is successful you all come on here and say anyone could coach that team they are loaded with talent but when the same coach has a team that does not do well its the coaches fault.
The opposite happens too. Coach of 2020 TG black was applauded for coaching a loaded team. Its all how you spin it.
He also coached up a not so loaded 2015 group that was very competitive up and down the east coast.
what'cha mean "not so loaded"....Two All Americans (so far), one of which is a U19 National team alt. not such a bad start to a team..
I am an avid reader of the BOTC. I am constantly reading people talk about some 7th grader being the best girl in the County and the Manhasset girls being amazing etc... Not to take anything away from those girls, but they can learn a lot from a young lady who I watched play last night. This young lady, Katie Hoeg, from small town Mattituck is the epitome of a well rounded, productive, unselfish, team oriented lacrosse player. She is so enjoyable to watch and UNC is lucky to be getting her. She makes everybody on her team a better player. Kudos to her parents!!
Ok Uncle or Aunt
SHA's stock on the rise… new field… will keep those Nassau girls now.
Interesting since SHA lost to kellenberg today.
I am an avid reader of the BOTC. I am constantly reading people talk about some 7th grader being the best girl in the County and the Manhasset girls being amazing etc... Not to take anything away from those girls, but they can learn a lot from a young lady who I watched play last night. This young lady, Katie Hoeg, from small town Mattituck is the epitome of a well rounded, productive, unselfish, team oriented lacrosse player. She is so enjoyable to watch and UNC is lucky to be getting her. She makes everybody on her team a better player. Kudos to her parents!!
So great to come on here and see something nice said about a player - very refreshing and something we should see more of
I too was at the game and agree with you! Would also like to call out another player - Kasey Choma - an 8th grader for ESM- who is such an amazing competitor for someone her age. and a joy to watch
Sounds like you CSH parents have major issues with the coach. I have also heard bad things, but thought she was getting better? Rumor was the she got a talking to from the school board after a bunch of people complained. Any truth to this?
Sounds to me like some parents want there coach from club to take over ( oh yeah he lives in this district ) I have heard some bad things about him as well , something to do with the SEC . Be careful what you wish for!
I have not seen a CSH varsity game, but the coach is now working with my daughter for the third year as a club team coach and she has been fantastic. Encouraging to the young girls, respective to the players and parents and focused on their development. Most impressive during these younger years was very balanced playing time across the board and not a win at all cost focus.
As they get older many will sit the bench.
That is so rude to say that!
Why would you want to come on here and post such nasty things about someone?
What's going on at Northport?
What's going on at Northport?
Big game for Northport right now vs. Sayville at CSH.
Easy about the SHA talk about subs. Those freshman don't belong on team . Sitting the bench doesn't help and if they get in will be overmatched against seniors who can play. Belong on JV
Not talking about freshman
If you are good enough she will play. The 2 songs don't belong either. Just because they committed and got free books , doesnt mean they belong on Varsity
In the Gains for Brains games at CSH:
Northport over Sayville
Bayport Bluepoint over Farmingdale
Middle Country over Wilton
Oyster Bay vs John Jay is underway.
St. Anthonys vs Summit (NJ) at 4pm.
Cold Spring vs. Suffern at 6:30pm.
Very happy Northport is losing
Very happy Northport is losing
?? Northport won.
In the Gains for Brains games at CSH:
Northport over Sayville
Bayport Bluepoint over Farmingdale
Middle Country over Wilton
Oyster Bay vs John Jay is underway.
St. Anthonys vs Summit (NJ) at 4pm.
Cold Spring vs. Suffern at 6:30pm.
summit beats st. Anthony 7-5 and Suffern beat CSH. Good day for teams outside of LI.
Very happy Northport is losing
?? Northport won.
Northport doesn't seem to have the studs of the past years.
How many teams make the playoffs in Suffolk divisions 1 & 2?
How many teams make the playoffs in Suffolk divisions 1 & 2?
12 in d1, 7 in d2 and 5 in d3. It goes by power rank not record
How many teams make the playoffs in Suffolk divisions 1 & 2?
12 in d1, 7 in d2 and 5 in d3. It goes by power rank not record
Seems as if there is a problem with both the girls and boys power rankings.
How many teams make the playoffs in Suffolk divisions 1 & 2?
12 in d1, 7 in d2 and 5 in d3. It goes by power rank not record
Is that correct?
Do 12 of the 21 teams in Suffolk Division 1 make the playoffs? Is this true? Do more than half the teams really make the playoffs?
if the playoffs started today this would be who is in the playoffs.
D 1: MC, NB, WI, COMMACK, WM, SW, HHH, SE,CONNETQUOT, LONGWOOD, NORTHPORT, SACHEM N.
D2: HUNT, ESM, H FIELDS, SAYVILLE, HAUPPAUGE, COMSEWOGUE, WEST HAMPTON.
D3: MT SINAI, BBP, SWR, M/S/G, BABYLON
if the playoffs started today this would be who is in the playoffs.
D 1: MC, NB, WI, COMMACK, WM, SW, HHH, SE,CONNETQUOT, LONGWOOD, NORTHPORT, SACHEM N.
D2: HUNT, ESM, H FIELDS, SAYVILLE, HAUPPAUGE, COMSEWOGUE, WEST HAMPTON.
D3: MT SINAI, BBP, SWR, M/S/G, BABYLON
What about Nassau? who comes out of the power conference to B and C?
There is a ton of lacrosse left. I'm sure someone is going to be upset. I'm just happy Northport is not winning
if the playoffs started today this would be who is in the playoffs.
D 1: MC, NB, WI, COMMACK, WM, SW, HHH, SE,CONNETQUOT, LONGWOOD, NORTHPORT, SACHEM N.
D2: HUNT, ESM, H FIELDS, SAYVILLE, HAUPPAUGE, COMSEWOGUE, WEST HAMPTON.
D3: MT SINAI, BBP, SWR, M/S/G, BABYLON
where are the power rankings? I did not see them on the section xi site in the standings
if the playoffs started today this would be who is in the playoffs.
D 1: MC, NB, WI, COMMACK, WM, SW, HHH, SE,CONNETQUOT, LONGWOOD, NORTHPORT, SACHEM N.
D2: HUNT, ESM, H FIELDS, SAYVILLE, HAUPPAUGE, COMSEWOGUE, WEST HAMPTON.
D3: MT SINAI, BBP, SWR, M/S/G, BABYLON
where are the power rankings? I did not see them on the section xi site in the standings
For some reason today the site does not have the power rankings on it today.
Are the order of the teams the seed they would be if the playoffs started today? If that is the case, I can't see Harborfields being a three seed. They beat the weak four teams in D2 and had close wins against middle of the road EI and WH and they got doubled up by the only only good team they played. Their record is definately a result of a weak schedule.
can anyone tell me who is in the B div in Nassau since Nassau separates teams by ability it is hard to tell who is in A B or C once the playoffs start - thanks
Anyone know what coaches are running the schoolgirl tryouts this Sunday at CSH and what the format is? Have. 9th grader going for the first time - thanks
Anyone know what coaches are running the schoolgirl tryouts this Sunday at CSH and what the format is? Have. 9th grader going for the first time - thanks
Its closed to parents.. so I've never seen what actually goes on, but i have been told that its a typical tryout format..drills small sided stuff.
good luck
Anyone know what coaches are running the schoolgirl tryouts this Sunday at CSH and what the format is? Have. 9th grader going for the first time - thanks
If you are a YJ you have nothing to worry about
Anyone know what coaches are running the schoolgirl tryouts this Sunday at CSH and what the format is? Have. 9th grader going for the first time - thanks
If you are a YJ you have nothing to worry about
Why - who runs it?
How about the schools where players mothers keep the stats. Like one of the schools where their "star" is one of the assist leaders of the county.
Nice job East Islip , So proud.
She was already selected...
can anyone tell me who is in the B div in Nassau since Nassau separates teams by ability it is hard to tell who is in A B or C once the playoffs start - thanks
Bringing this thread back to its original purpose.
can anyone tell me who is in the B div in Nassau since Nassau separates teams by ability it is hard to tell who is in A B or C once the playoffs start - thanks
Bringing this thread back to its original purpose.
The B's in Nassau has 3 nationally ranked teams...Manhasset, Garden City and Wantagh..plus they have North Shore who is a very strong program.
Good game today in Suffolk with ESM beating BBP in overtime
Thats what is happening in Huntington as well. A full bench of girls just sit there and ride the bench while a very few are selected to play the whole game. Not understanding that mentality. Don't we want to BUILD our program as well as win now. seems to me we achieve that by involving ALL the players into these games. ..just my 2 cents...
Same old story. I don't know much about Suffolk, but its going in Nassau too at my kids school
Anyone know what coaches are running the schoolgirl tryouts this Sunday at CSH and what the format is? Have. 9th grader going for the first time - thanks
If you are a YJ you have nothing to worry about
Why - who runs it?
Do a search on this site and you will see the full discussion.
Thats what is happening in Huntington as well. A full bench of girls just sit there and ride the bench while a very few are selected to play the whole game. Not understanding that mentality. Don't we want to BUILD our program as well as win now. seems to me we achieve that by involving ALL the players into these games. ..just my 2 cents...
When is the AD at Huntington going to wake up. How many times do parents have to complain about the self dealings, the conflicts of interest, the mental mind games, the taking care of "friends" who my daughter plays with and my buddies? Also, you got out coached once again by better coaches who actually know the game.
Thats what is happening in Huntington as well. A full bench of girls just sit there and ride the bench while a very few are selected to play the whole game. Not understanding that mentality. Don't we want to BUILD our program as well as win now. seems to me we achieve that by involving ALL the players into these games. ..just my 2 cents...
When is the AD at Huntington going to wake up. How many times do parents have to complain about the self dealings, the conflicts of interest, the mental mind games, the taking care of "friends" who my daughter plays with and my buddies? Also, you got out coached once again by better coaches who actually know the game.
Huntington has some great players. Maybe the best ones are being played.
Thats what is happening in Huntington as well. A full bench of girls just sit there and ride the bench while a very few are selected to play the whole game. Not understanding that mentality. Don't we want to BUILD our program as well as win now. seems to me we achieve that by involving ALL the players into these games. ..just my 2 cents...
When is the AD at Huntington going to wake up. How many times do parents have to complain about the self dealings, the conflicts of interest, the mental mind games, the taking care of "friends" who my daughter plays with and my buddies? Also, you got out coached once again by better coaches who actually know the game.
Huntington has some great players. Maybe the best ones are being played.
You are correct in your statement - "some of the best ones are being played with."
Thats what is happening in Huntington as well. A full bench of girls just sit there and ride the bench while a very few are selected to play the whole game. Not understanding that mentality. Don't we want to BUILD our program as well as win now. seems to me we achieve that by involving ALL the players into these games. ..just my 2 cents...
When is the AD at Huntington going to wake up. How many times do parents have to complain about the self dealings, the conflicts of interest, the mental mind games, the taking care of "friends" who my daughter plays with and my buddies? Also, you got out coached once again by better coaches who actually know the game.
Huntington has some great players. Maybe the best ones are being played.
You are correct in your statement - "some of the best ones are being played with."
tough loss today for Huntington
Huntington just really hadn't played anyone good yet until their mt Sinai game. Welcome to the real world!
Huntington just really hadn't played anyone good yet until their mt Sinai game. Welcome to the real world!
Terrible coaching at Huntington.
I wonder if the person bad mouthing the Huntington program on this thread is the same "Eli--te" coach (and/or his daughter) who sits in the stands at both home AND away games and badmouths the coach to all the parents. Class act.
I wonder if the person bad mouthing the Huntington program on this thread is the same "Eli--te" coach (and/or his daughter) who sits in the stands at both home AND away games and badmouths the coach to all the parents. Class act.
Huntington girls varsity has the talent, but the coaching is terrible. There are a number of amazing players just sitting on the bench. Kathy Wright has no idea what she's doing and she's only in it so she can promote her own daughter and other YJ players. She should be ashamed of herself. The AD should be ashamed too.
Huntington just really hadn't played anyone good yet until their mt Sinai game. Welcome to the real world!
Terrible coaching at Huntington.
Maybe the other teams were better?
Huntington just really hadn't played anyone good yet until their mt Sinai game. Welcome to the real world!
Terrible coaching at Huntington.
Maybe the other teams were better?
When they were winning no complaints two losses and the crying starts
Huntington just really hadn't played anyone good yet until their mt Sinai game. Welcome to the real world!
Terrible coaching at Huntington.
Maybe the other teams were better?
When they were winning no complaints two losses and the crying starts
From a Huntington outsider with a small amount of knowledge of the particulars..
2 Goalies, 1 YJ, 1 Elevate.. both real good, head coach works for YJ.. the starting goalie is always the YJ girl..probaqbly more too it then that but my $0.02
I don't understand why a post that I asked a legit question about coaching got pulled. With all the Bashing about Huntington's coach I thought my question was pretty tame?
Huntington girls varsity has the talent, but the coaching is terrible. There are a number of amazing players just sitting on the bench. Kathy Wright has no idea what she's doing and she's only in it so she can promote her own daughter and other YJ players. She should be ashamed of herself. The AD should be ashamed too.
But wait isn't KW a YJ coach? She can't be terrible you must be mistaken!
Huntington girls varsity has the talent, but the coaching is terrible. There are a number of amazing players just sitting on the bench. Kathy Wright has no idea what she's doing and she's only in it so she can promote her own daughter and other YJ players. She should be ashamed of herself. The AD should be ashamed too.
I have no personal knowledge of the validity of the Huntington drama. However, if anyone wants to really make a change concerning this issue they need to contact BOTH the AD and BOE directly. Other than that all the bitching in the world will do nothing to change the situation.
It just would serve the team better if the same 8
girls were not in the whole game. You have to develop the whole team, otherwise you shortchange the program. you can't continually count on the same group. give everyone a shot to help the team, build morale and better your program.
Not a lot of crying over two losses- the team has weathered that before. Crying over the fact that this is a public school, and the coach should be COACHING and teaching all of the players. The bench doesn't even practice half the time. Speaking of losses, any time the team does lose, KW berates the players, who she chose, in front of the whole team and tells them how terrible they are. Completely unprofessional. Ruining the program.
It just would serve the team better if the same 8
girls were not in the whole game. You have to develop the whole team, otherwise you shortchange the program. you can't continually count on the same group. give everyone a shot to help the team, build morale and better your program.
I don't know what happened previously but it looks like the team has improved each year since 2011-2012 where they were 5-9 or something like that. Most teams play their best players to try to win. Are people saying that the best players are not playing? Both of my daughters and my son played when it was their turn to play. I think the coaches duty is to win games and the travel coaches duty is to develop players and get kids who want to play in college recruited.
I doubt Kathy does that. I know her. She doesn't yell at people. She's actually a great person. Its not right to come on here and trash her like this. its always easy for everyone else to coach on the sidelines. If you want to say that you wish more of the team got in and played or question a tactic used I think thats fair. But some of you are getting downright mean. These attitudes will trickle down to your children and that would be a real shame.
You can doubt it all you want, but yesterday she publicly shamed three of her starters in front of the rest of the team and told them how horrible they are and that she doesn't need them. Not a great team building strategy. Last year she allowed a bunch of girls to go on a trip over Spring Break- gave them all permission- and then when the team lost a game, she screamed and yelled at those girls and blamed them for the loss. She creates incredible conflict for the girls within the team.
You can doubt it all you want, but yesterday she publicly shamed three of her starters in front of the rest of the team and told them how horrible they are and that she doesn't need them. Not a great team building strategy. Last year she allowed a bunch of girls to go on a trip over Spring Break- gave them all permission- and then when the team lost a game, she screamed and yelled at those girls and blamed them for the loss. She creates incredible conflict for the girls within the team.
I have to agree with a previous post, that having a parent coach at that level is not a good idea. Add that to being a travel team coach, and there are too many conflicts of interest. No one will see her decisions as fair.
It comes down to basic team building. You PLAY the team. You can not win anything with only playing the same girls. Other teams have her number, you have to coach smarter. If you have a robust team with talent on the field and on the bench you play them. Take out a starter put in a non starter let her run with the team. Then switch it back up again. Pass the ball around .
To Much ball from draw to cage.
No one listens especially the summer travel girls and coaches. The teams with just a few players getting all the points will be bounced from the playoffs early like they are every year! And next year even fewer girls will be trying out , I mean walking on.
No one listens especially the summer travel girls and coaches. The teams with just a few players getting all the points will be bounced from the playoffs early like they are every year! And next year even fewer girls will be trying out , I mean walking on.
The funny thing about what all of you are saying is the top teams in A,B,C all barely sub , especially in the big games. What you are saying all sounds nice but is just not reality.Watch the top college programs and see if they even sub out their middies in close games, they don't. Maryland runs 4 middies with one just staying up at attack when they need a little break. The best teams are going to ride their horses, just the way it is.
not crying over two loses crying over the loses to come as the wheels come off
No one listens especially the summer travel girls and coaches. The teams with just a few players getting all the points will be bounced from the playoffs early like they are every year! And next year even fewer girls will be trying out , I mean walking on.
The funny thing about what all of you are saying is the top teams in A,B,C all barely sub , especially in the big games. What you are saying all sounds nice but is just not reality.Watch the top college programs and see if they even sub out their middies in close games, they don't. Maryland runs 4 middies with one just staying up at attack when they need a little break. The best teams are going to ride their horses, just the way it is.
UNC played 29 players yesterday and Syracuse played 21 players.
That's bs... You sub in and you sub out... You coach all your players to make the difference. THAT is what Strong Teams do. I have yet to see what you are referring to happen on any decent team.
That's bs... You sub in and you sub out... You coach all your players to make the difference. THAT is what Strong Teams do. I have yet to see what you are referring to happen on any decent team.
you must not watch many good teams. watch the GC - Manhasset games in a couple of weeks and then come back and let us know how many bench players get on the field.
That's bs... You sub in and you sub out... You coach all your players to make the difference. THAT is what Strong Teams do. I have yet to see what you are referring to happen on any decent team.
you must not watch many good teams. watch the GC - Manhasset games in a couple of weeks and then come back and let us know how many bench players get on the field.
I kinda agree with that statement. The better players will play the majority of the time, especially in a GC-Manhasset game. The difference is that everyone on the field will contribute in some way shape or form. If there is a matchup to exploit then there is confidence with those on the field to do their job.
It sounds like at Huntington the ball is only being touch by a few players which will be snuffed out come playoff time by better teams.
That's what I'm saying... Huntington, Northport, hauppauge.,. I'm not here to bash specifics. I'm telling you that to create strong teams year in and year out..,, you must engage your whole team. In games and in practices.
That's what I'm saying... Huntington, Northport, hauppauge.,. I'm not here to bash specifics. I'm telling you that to create strong teams year in and year out..,, you must engage your whole team. In games and in practices.
Please tell us the strong teams that you are talking about that sub in liberally in close games ,not the blowouts .That UNC number seems way off and I think the number you stated was who was on the roster for the game.
It comes down to basic team building. You PLAY the team. You can not win anything with only playing the same girls. Other teams have her number, you have to coach smarter. If you have a robust team with talent on the field and on the bench you play them. Take out a starter put in a non starter let her run with the team. Then switch it back up again. Pass the ball around .
To Much ball from draw to cage.
So it's the coach's fault if there is to much go to goal straight from the draw?Maybe the players aint listening.
No one listens especially the summer travel girls and coaches. The teams with just a few players getting all the points will be bounced from the playoffs early like they are every year! And next year even fewer girls will be trying out , I mean walking on.
The funny thing about what all of you are saying is the top teams in A,B,C all barely sub , especially in the big games. What you are saying all sounds nice but is just not reality.Watch the top college programs and see if they even sub out their middies in close games, they don't. Maryland runs 4 middies with one just staying up at attack when they need a little break. The best teams are going to ride their horses, just the way it is.
UNC played 29 players yesterday and Syracuse played 21 players.
Please do not use UNC or any Top 5, 10 or even Top 20 Division 1 Team as an example.
UNC and other top programs recruit stud athletes. Just about every kid on the team at that level can play.
HS Coaches have to deal with the pool of talent they have at any given time. Not all of the kids that play in HS will be able to play at a high level in college. Not every kid on a HS bench will be able to positively impact their HS team.
Most HS coaches play to win and will play who they think will help the team the most.
If your HS coach has kids who are being recruited by UNC, Maryland, Virginia, Northwestern or any other top 10 – 20 team sitting on the bench I would say you have a big problem.
Maybe you sit those players, Then maybe they listen. Just a thought !
Maybe you sit those players, Then maybe they listen. Just a thought !
The leading point scorer on Huntington has more assists than goals. The leading goal scorer is on attack so I don't think the problem is getting the ball off the draw and going to goal. Whoever said that this is a problem does not know what they are talking about.
You can doubt it all you want, but yesterday she publicly shamed three of her starters in front of the rest of the team and told them how horrible they are and that she doesn't need them. Not a great team building strategy. Last year she allowed a bunch of girls to go on a trip over Spring Break- gave them all permission- and then when the team lost a game, she screamed and yelled at those girls and blamed them for the loss. She creates incredible conflict for the girls within the team.
I have to agree with a previous post, that having a parent coach at that level is not a good idea. Add that to being a travel team coach, and there are too many conflicts of interest. No one will see her decisions as fair.
Virtually every coach in HS lax is coaching travel teams, that's what the entire yj model is based on and now the other clubs are trying to do the same
Not a lot of crying over two losses- the team has weathered that before. Crying over the fact that this is a public school, and the coach should be COACHING and teaching all of the players. The bench doesn't even practice half the time. Speaking of losses, any time the team does lose, KW berates the players, who she chose, in front of the whole team and tells them how terrible they are. Completely unprofessional. Ruining the program.
So you obviously are involved in the program and come on here stating these accusations and do nothing about it? What a joke you are!! Coming on here constantly bitching about it does nothing but make you look like a weakling. Go make a difference.
You can doubt it all you want, but yesterday she publicly shamed three of her starters in front of the rest of the team and told them how horrible they are and that she doesn't need them. Not a great team building strategy. Last year she allowed a bunch of girls to go on a trip over Spring Break- gave them all permission- and then when the team lost a game, she screamed and yelled at those girls and blamed them for the loss. She creates incredible conflict for the girls within the team.
I have to agree with a previous post, that having a parent coach at that level is not a good idea. Add that to being a travel team coach, and there are too many conflicts of interest. No one will see her decisions as fair.
Virtually every coach in HS lax is coaching travel teams, that's what the entire yj model is based on and now the other clubs are trying to do the same
Hey Kathy, all the kids who you said were so selfish had 14 assists on 16 goals today? Are they selfish or are you just plain wrong?
Did not see the game but 14 legit aassists on 16 goals in any girls game is highly uunlikely.Its not hockey. I have seen newsday stats thashow teams with more assists than goals, did not think that was possible
You can doubt it all you want, but yesterday she publicly shamed three of her starters in front of the rest of the team and told them how horrible they are and that she doesn't need them. Not a great team building strategy. Last year she allowed a bunch of girls to go on a trip over Spring Break- gave them all permission- and then when the team lost a game, she screamed and yelled at those girls and blamed them for the loss. She creates incredible conflict for the girls within the team.
I have to agree with a previous post, that having a parent coach at that level is not a good idea. Add that to being a travel team coach, and there are too many conflicts of interest. No one will see her decisions as fair.
Virtually every coach in HS lax is coaching travel teams, that's what the entire yj model is based on and now the other clubs are trying to do the same
Hey Kathy, all the kids who you said were so selfish had 14 assists on 16 goals today? Are they selfish or are you just plain wrong?
Internet tough girl huh. Go see them face to face coward.
You can doubt it all you want, but yesterday she publicly shamed three of her starters in front of the rest of the team and told them how horrible they are and that she doesn't need them. Not a great team building strategy. Last year she allowed a bunch of girls to go on a trip over Spring Break- gave them all permission- and then when the team lost a game, she screamed and yelled at those girls and blamed them for the loss. She creates incredible conflict for the girls within the team.
I have to agree with a previous post, that having a parent coach at that level is not a good idea. Add that to being a travel team coach, and there are too many conflicts of interest. No one will see her decisions as fair.
Virtually every coach in HS lax is coaching travel teams, that's what the entire yj model is based on and now the other clubs are trying to do the same
Hey Kathy, all the kids who you said were so selfish had 14 assists on 16 goals today? Are they selfish or are you just plain wrong?
You must be the teams official stat ladder, oops, I mean keeper.
You can doubt it all you want, but yesterday she publicly shamed three of her starters in front of the rest of the team and told them how horrible they are and that she doesn't need them. Not a great team building strategy. Last year she allowed a bunch of girls to go on a trip over Spring Break- gave them all permission- and then when the team lost a game, she screamed and yelled at those girls and blamed them for the loss. She creates incredible conflict for the girls within the team.
I have to agree with a previous post, that having a parent coach at that level is not a good idea. Add that to being a travel team coach, and there are too many conflicts of interest. No one will see her decisions as fair.
Virtually every coach in HS lax is coaching travel teams, that's what the entire yj model is based on and now the other clubs are trying to do the same
Hey Kathy, all the kids who you said were so selfish had 14 assists on 16 goals today? Are they selfish or are you just plain wrong?
Maybe they got the message?
Watched HS girls game the other day. Is it me or am I teaching my young daughter the wrong thing about sports ethics...should I be teaching them to take extra steps after whistle, take dives any chance they get and as soon as refs turn their backs to throw their sticks about 10 yards to gain advantage on the field? Is this how the sport is played now?
Appears you have little knowledge of the situation. There are 4 goalies at Huntington. 3 YJ, 1 Elevate. 2 of YJ are D1 commits. 1 Elevate D1 commit. Second YJ D1 commit and third YJ goalie have not played 1 minute. Here is one cent back
Watched HS girls game the other day. Is it me or am I teaching my young daughter the wrong thing about sports ethics...should I be teaching them to take extra steps after whistle, take dives any chance they get and as soon as refs turn their backs to throw their sticks about 10 yards to gain advantage on the field? Is this how the sport is played now?
It often is, and by some teams/clubs more than others. If the coaches encourage it, or turn a blind eye, and the refs don't see it or don't choose to address it, then it happens and continues to happen.
I'm sure she's not on boc. If so, I am sure she will be able to figure out who you are.
Did not see the game but 14 legit aassists on 16 goals in any girls game is highly uunlikely.Its not hockey. I have seen newsday stats thashow teams with more assists than goals, did not think that was possible
Funny thing about all you stat hounds, go look at the list of all stat leaders on msg. The entire first page of leaders all come from weak programs. Seriously only one or two of the top 30 are from merely decent teams. And just about none from all the top programs. I guess if you want to be the stat standout player, move to a weak school district where you are a shark playing in a puddle.
Did not see the game but 14 legit aassists on 16 goals in any girls game is highly uunlikely.Its not hockey. I have seen newsday stats thashow teams with more assists than goals, did not think that was possible
Funny thing about all you stat hounds, go look at the list of all stat leaders on msg. The entire first page of leaders all come from weak programs. Seriously only one or two of the top 30 are from merely decent teams. And just about none from all the top programs. I guess if you want to be the stat standout player, move to a weak school district where you are a shark playing in a puddle.
Thanks captain obvious. You think it has anything to do with the stronger programs having multiple options on offense . Those kids who are on weak programs should stop scoring goals so you will not come on this site to tear them apart or maybe if you want to be a non standout player move to a strong school district where you can be a guppy playing in the ocean.We get it , your kid is better than all those stat leaders but no one notices because the team she plays on is so tremendous she barely contributes to the teams success and it drives you crazy. Which are those top programs that none of the kids are near the top of the stats list?
Did not see the game but 14 legit aassists on 16 goals in any girls game is highly uunlikely.Its not hockey. I have seen newsday stats thashow teams with more assists than goals, did not think that was possible
Funny thing about all you stat hounds, go look at the list of all stat leaders on msg. The entire first page of leaders all come from weak programs. Seriously only one or two of the top 30 are from merely decent teams. And just about none from all the top programs. I guess if you want to be the stat standout player, move to a weak school district where you are a shark playing in a puddle.
Thanks captain obvious. You think it has anything to do with the stronger programs having multiple options on offense . Those kids who are on weak programs should stop scoring goals so you will not come on this site to tear them apart or maybe if you want to be a non standout player move to a strong school district where you can be a guppy playing in the ocean.We get it , your kid is better than all those stat leaders but no one notices because the team she plays on is so tremendous she barely contributes to the teams success and it drives you crazy. Which are those top programs that none of the kids are near the top of the stats list?
Thank you. Someone finally put this 98han5jackass in their place!!! These stat leader's did not pick their town. Some teams have many options and some have few.Stop beating up the ones producing in what ever program they are in!!!
When you are up by 10, tell your daughter to pass the ball.
When you are up by 10, tell your daughter to pass the ball.
Tell your daughter to learn how to catch
When you are up by 10, tell your daughter to pass the ball.
I'm going to agree with that. I see far too many box scores where a team wins by double digits, or close to, and one girl has nearly double digit goals. Completely unnecessary for the win, only necessary for the ego. I would have no prob with a girl scoring 8, 9, 10 goals herself if the final score is close. Then those goals are needed. But in a blowout there is no reason.
And furthermore, I don't want to hear, "It's her turn," to justify running up her stats. That's just BS.
Did not see the game but 14 legit aassists on 16 goals in any girls game is highly uunlikely.Its not hockey. I have seen newsday stats thashow teams with more assists than goals, did not think that was possible
Funny thing about all you stat hounds, go look at the list of all stat leaders on msg. The entire first page of leaders all come from weak programs. Seriously only one or two of the top 30 are from merely decent teams. And just about none from all the top programs. I guess if you want to be the stat standout player, move to a weak school district where you are a shark playing in a puddle.
Thanks captain obvious. You think it has anything to do with the stronger programs having multiple options on offense . Those kids who are on weak programs should stop scoring goals so you will not come on this site to tear them apart or maybe if you want to be a non standout player move to a strong school district where you can be a guppy playing in the ocean.We get it , your kid is better than all those stat leaders but no one notices because the team she plays on is so tremendous she barely contributes to the teams success and it drives you crazy. Which are those top programs that none of the kids are near the top of the stats list?
Mt Sinai! Balanced team that takes their studs out early.
Did not see the game but 14 legit aassists on 16 goals in any girls game is highly uunlikely.Its not hockey. I have seen newsday stats thashow teams with more assists than goals, did not think that was possible
Funny thing about all you stat hounds, go look at the list of all stat leaders on msg. The entire first page of leaders all come from weak programs. Seriously only one or two of the top 30 are from merely decent teams. And just about none from all the top programs. I guess if you want to be the stat standout player, move to a weak school district where you are a shark playing in a puddle.
Thanks captain obvious. You think it has anything to do with the stronger programs having multiple options on offense . Those kids who are on weak programs should stop scoring goals so you will not come on this site to tear them apart or maybe if you want to be a non standout player move to a strong school district where you can be a guppy playing in the ocean.We get it , your kid is better than all those stat leaders but no one notices because the team she plays on is so tremendous she barely contributes to the teams success and it drives you crazy. Which are those top programs that none of the kids are near the top of the stats list?
Thank you. Someone finally put this 98han5jackass in their place!!! These stat leader's did not pick their town. Some teams have many options and some have few.Stop beating up the ones producing in what ever program they are in!!!
The string programs have good coaches who would not allow the one player run UPS.
Did not see the game but 14 legit aassists on 16 goals in any girls game is highly uunlikely.Its not hockey. I have seen newsday stats thashow teams with more assists than goals, did not think that was possible
Funny thing about all you stat hounds, go look at the list of all stat leaders on msg. The entire first page of leaders all come from weak programs. Seriously only one or two of the top 30 are from merely decent teams. And just about none from all the top programs. I guess if you want to be the stat standout player, move to a weak school district where you are a shark playing in a puddle.
Thanks captain obvious. You think it has anything to do with the stronger programs having multiple options on offense . Those kids who are on weak programs should stop scoring goals so you will not come on this site to tear them apart or maybe if you want to be a non standout player move to a strong school district where you can be a guppy playing in the ocean.We get it , your kid is better than all those stat leaders but no one notices because the team she plays on is so tremendous she barely contributes to the teams success and it drives you crazy. Which are those top programs that none of the kids are near the top of the stats list?
Mt Sinai! Balanced team that takes their studs out early.
Not in my experience, but it could be different for each team they play. Although I will say I never see any completely unbalanced running up of the score from them either.
Mt. Sinai doesn't take their studs out. They just slow the game down in the second half when they have a lead. They have done it numerous times this season. It's actually impressive to watch them work the ball around looking for the perfect shot. Can't see anyone in C beating them in Suffolk.
Unlike swr who has no mercy on Mercy. But they lose to anyone who is good.
Unlike swr who has no mercy on Mercy. But they lose to anyone who is good.
Swr played their starting GOALIE on attack, pulled starters in 1st half, played all players, including two who never played the game before this year, and had all experienced kids use opposite hand. What else are you supposed to do? Also, don't the kids who are new to the game or never play get a chance to compete too?
Did not see the game but 14 legit aassists on 16 goals in any girls game is highly uunlikely.Its not hockey. I have seen newsday stats thashow teams with more assists than goals, did not think that was possible
Good to see the kids passing , much better
Mt. Sinai doesn't take their studs out. They just slow the game down in the second half when they have a lead. They have done it numerous times this season. It's actually impressive to watch them work the ball around looking for the perfect shot. Can't see anyone in C beating them in Suffolk.
I saw them play miller place and # 4 was out early and only scored 1 goal. Seemed like she could score as many as she wanted. But u r right. They worked the ball to everyone.
Mt. Sinai doesn't take their studs out. They just slow the game down in the second half when they have a lead. They have done it numerous times this season. It's actually impressive to watch them work the ball around looking for the perfect shot. Can't see anyone in C beating them in Suffolk.
I saw them play miller place and # 4 was out early and only scored 1 goal. Seemed like she could score as many as she wanted. But u r right. They worked the ball to everyone.
Guess it all depends on the game!!
Just would like to end on a positive note...kudos to the West Islip coach for not running up the score, subbing his players, and giving the weaker team a chance to feel positive about the game. We should all take a lesson from them!
Just would like to end on a positive note...kudos to the West Islip coach for not running up the score, subbing his players, and giving the weaker team a chance to feel positive about the game. We should all take a lesson from them!
Good for you guys, we are at a school that regardless of score only certain kids get to score. Kids are quitting in droves even mid season
Just would like to end on a positive note...kudos to the West Islip coach for not running up the score, subbing his players, and giving the weaker team a chance to feel positive about the game. We should all take a lesson from them!
Good for you guys, we are at a school that regardless of score only certain kids get to score. Kids are quitting in droves even mid season
What school ?
Just would like to end on a positive note...kudos to the West Islip coach for not running up the score, subbing his players, and giving the weaker team a chance to feel positive about the game. We should all take a lesson from them!
Good for you guys, we are at a school that regardless of score only certain kids get to score. Kids are quitting in droves even mid season
Quitting mid-season says more about the kids than the coach. Since when did a coach have to be everyone's friend. I never really liked most of my coaches, they constantly tell you what you are doing wrong, but I would never quit because of it. I don't know the exact situation but sounds like kids being brats more then some evil coach.
Just would like to end on a positive note...kudos to the West Islip coach for not running up the score, subbing his players, and giving the weaker team a chance to feel positive about the game. We should all take a lesson from them!
Good for you guys, we are at a school that regardless of score only certain kids get to score. Kids are quitting in droves even mid season
Quitting mid-season says more about the kids than the coach. Since when did a coach have to be everyone's friend. I never really liked most of my coaches, they constantly tell you what you are doing wrong, but I would never quit because of it. I don't know the exact situation but sounds like kids being brats more then some evil coach.
I agree life is tough and you should stick it out but if you can't work the bench in when you are up by double digits that's on the coach and the program. What's the point of practicing hard if you never get a chance in a game? Keep gearing the program towards the top handful and eventually that's all that will be left!
WOW! only got two against West Babylon. I guess you can't play Easthampton every game. WB girl had no problem finding the net.
WOW! only got two against West Babylon. I guess you can't play Easthampton every game. WB girl had no problem finding the net.
Looks like EI will not make the playoffs.
WOW! only got two against West Babylon. I guess you can't play Easthampton every game. WB girl had no problem finding the net.
Damn you kill the kid when she scores a lot and you kill her when she doesn't. Can't have it both ways!! She's a great player and I hope she scores 15 next game!!!!
WOW! only got two against West Babylon. I guess you can't play Easthampton every game. WB girl had no problem finding the net.
Your kidding right? Calling out a HS kid? And someone you know well at that. Ridiculous.
WOW! only got two against West Babylon. I guess you can't play Easthampton every game. WB girl had no problem finding the net.
Your kidding right? Calling out a HS kid? And someone you know well at that. Ridiculous.
Hop you are right. I was out of line for mentioning her name. I do apologize.
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WOW! only got two against West Babylon. I guess you can't play Easthampton every game. WB girl had no problem finding the net.
Teams are planning and practicing to stop these kids. They faceguard and commit two and three defenders
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Huntington just really hadn't played anyone good yet until their mt Sinai game. Welcome to the real world!
Terrible coaching at Huntington.
Maybe the other teams were better?
When they were winning no complaints two losses and the crying starts
Three losses after yesterday ,must be the coaching
WOW! only got two against West Babylon. I guess you can't play Easthampton every game. WB girl had no problem finding the net.
Please , both those kids you are talking about are excellent players .My daughter had the opportunity to play on a team with both of them and they are two of the best on Long Island.Got to speak with their travel coach who happens to be the dad of one of them and he could not have been more complimentary about the WB girl so I am sure it came as no surprise to him that she had no problem finding the net.
If D 1 Sec 11 playoffs started today here is who would be in:
Middle Country 10-0-0 12-0-0 163.330
West Islip 8-2-0 9-3-0 145.250
Smithtown West 7-2-0 7-2-0 139.800
North Babylon 8-2-0 8-2-0 132.130
Northport 5-3-0 6-3-0 131.890
Smithtown East 7-3-0 7-4-0 130.680
Ward Melville 6-3-0 6-4-0 127.140
Commack HS 7-2-0 8-3-0 124.610
Connetquot 5-4-0 6-5-0 109.090
H H Hills 4-4-0 5-5-0 104.640
Sachem East 4-5-0 4-6-0 102.950
Bay Shore 3-6-0 3-7-0 99.220
D2 playoffs
Eastport/SManor 9-1-0 10-1-0 154.080
Sayville 8-2-0 9-3-0 144.060
Hauppauge 7-3-0 8-4-0 143.310
Huntington 6-3-0 6-3-0 127.750
West Babylon 5-5-0 5-7-0 118.300
Comsewogue 8-3-0 9-3-0 113.170
Harborfields 7-3-0 8-3-0 112.850
Rocky Point 4-6-0 4-6-0 108.690
outside looking in
Westhampton 3-5-0 3-6-0 101.940
D3 playoffs
Mt Sinai 10-0-0 11-0-0 171.310
Bayport-Blue Pt 8-2-0 8-2-0 146.740
Matt/Gpt/Shld 7-3-0 8-3-0 117.290
Shoreham WR 6-4-0 7-4-0 117.200
Babylon 5-5-0 6-5-0 104.290
outside looking in
Elwood/J Glenn 3-6-0 4-7-0 83.150
Can a losing record get into the playoffs. I thought there was a minimum win % that had to be met
Looks like NB in ok
for the suffolk div 1
they couldnt hang in Nassau
Looks like NB in ok
for the suffolk div 1
they couldnt hang in Nassau
not to stir the pot, what what the heck are you talking about?
D2 playoffs
Eastport/SManor 9-1-0 10-1-0 154.080
Sayville 8-2-0 9-3-0 144.060
Hauppauge 7-3-0 8-4-0 143.310
Huntington 6-3-0 6-3-0 127.750
West Babylon 5-5-0 5-7-0 118.300
Comsewogue 8-3-0 9-3-0 113.170
Harborfields 7-3-0 8-3-0 112.850
Rocky Point 4-6-0 4-6-0 108.690
outside looking in
Westhampton 3-5-0 3-6-0 101.940
Not for nothing, but Com and Harb both had weak schedules. Compare their schedule to RP and MP, those are some nasty schedules. I realize the power points try to level the playing field but both of those teams have 4 wins each vs the bottom four teams, teams that have a combined record of 3-38 where RP played one of the bottom four and MP didn't have a game yet vs the bottom 4
Who makes the rules in Suffolk County?
Division I - more than half the teams make the playoffs? 12 teams get in.
Division III - 5 teams make it?
All 5 teams that make the playoffs in Division III would probably win the championship in Division 1 .
My daughters first year playing HS lax. How are kids selected for "all county"?
My daughters first year playing HS lax. How are kids selected for "all county"?
Coaches
D2 playoffs
Eastport/SManor 9-1-0 10-1-0 154.080
Sayville 8-2-0 9-3-0 144.060
Hauppauge 7-3-0 8-4-0 143.310
Huntington 6-3-0 6-3-0 127.750
West Babylon 5-5-0 5-7-0 118.300
Comsewogue 8-3-0 9-3-0 113.170
Harborfields 7-3-0 8-3-0 112.850
Rocky Point 4-6-0 4-6-0 108.690
outside looking in
Westhampton 3-5-0 3-6-0 101.940
Not for nothing, but Com and Harb both had weak schedules. Compare their schedule to RP and MP, those are some nasty schedules. I realize the power points try to level the playing field but both of those teams have 4 wins each vs the bottom four teams, teams that have a combined record of 3-38 where RP played one of the bottom four and MP didn't have a game yet vs the bottom 4
Maybe the non league schedule have something to do with their power ranking?
Not sure but as with any process some deserving players may be overlooked.
My daughters first year playing HS lax. How are kids selected for "all county"?
Coaches
Coaches from own team or from conference?
My daughters first year playing HS lax. How are kids selected for "all county"?
Coaches
Coaches from own team or from conference?
Both. The farther your team goes in playoffs, the more award spots are allotted to the team. Coaches can negotiate with the other coaches.
My daughters first year playing HS lax. How are kids selected for "all county"?
Coaches
Coaches from own team or from conference?
Team coaches nominate and conference coaches vote
How pathetic that the size of school Connetquot is and our JV and V teams cannot put a winning program out on the field. Time for change? Who is to blame, how do we change this?
My daughters first year playing HS lax. How are kids selected for "all county"?
The better your team ( the more establlished your coach) the more spots your team will have for all the awards ie. all league, all county
imo if your team doesnt make the playoffs you wont get any all county spots no matter how good your player is.
weak coaches wont/can't fight the established coach for the nomination,
strong coaches wont give up their all county spots
How pathetic that the size of school Connetquot is and our JV and V teams cannot put a winning program out on the field. Time for change? Who is to blame, how do we change this?
The reason your team is not that good is 2-fold. First, since there really wasn't an established town program in the past, there is not a deep talent pool among your older kids. Second, the rules set forth by the district in response to parents complaining that their darling is being displaced by a younger child. That has stopped numerous talented girls from having an opportunity to play at the HS level, either on JV or V. Just ask the coaches. And don't tell me that the younger kids can't compete at that level.
My daughters first year playing HS lax. How are kids selected for "all county"?
Don't worry for another 2 years Maybe
The better your team ( the more establlished your coach) the more spots your team will have for all the awards ie. all league, all county
imo if your team doesnt make the playoffs you wont get any all county spots no matter how good your player is.
weak coaches wont/can't fight the established coach for the nomination,
strong coaches wont give up their all county spots
How pathetic that the size of school Connetquot is and our JV and V teams cannot put a winning program out on the field. Time for change? Who is to blame, how do we change this?
The reason your team is not that good is 2-fold. First, since there really wasn't an established town program in the past, there is not a deep talent pool among your older kids. Second, the rules set forth by the district in response to parents complaining that their darling is being displaced by a younger child. That has stopped numerous talented girls from having an opportunity to play at the HS level, either on JV or V. Just ask the coaches. And don't tell me that the younger kids can't compete at that level.
They have a good town program now and the talent is making its way up to the HS. They brought up a bunch of younger girls the last two years and it definitely didn't make them a winning program. That's not the issue. They should be pretty good in a couple years.
NB looks ok
but they couldn't hang in Nassau
NB looks ok
but they couldn't hang in Nassau
Yeah we get it. No need to say it twice. Good thing is they play in Suffolk. Comparing apples to oranges. Most Nassau teams couldn't hang in Maryland but no one cares.
NB looks ok
but they couldn't hang in Nassau
Yeah we get it. No need to say it twice. Good thing is they play in Suffolk. Comparing apples to oranges. Most Nassau teams couldn't hang in Maryland but no one cares.
NB looks ok
but they couldn't hang in Nassau
Yeah we get it. No need to say it twice. Good thing is they play in Suffolk. Comparing apples to oranges. Most Nassau teams couldn't hang in Maryland but no one cares.
So can we say suffolk can't hang with nassau
And nassau can't hang w Maryland ? Nah
How about mt Sinai vs garden city matchup
In one of those friendly charity matchups - love to see the outcomexc8bhu
How pathetic that the size of school Connetquot is and our JV and V teams cannot put a winning program out on the field. Time for change? Who is to blame, how do we change this?
Middle school looks good!!!! Just beat a Bayport team I can't ever remember beating. Older girls have but we never had before. Nice feeling
I find it strange that suffolk will be favored to win A,C while Nassau will be favored to win B. If you took an all star team from suffolk and played an all star team from nassau the team from suffolk would be heavily favored in my opinion yet in many peoples opinion especially those from nassau lacrosse barely exists anywhere but nassau. Is it that lacrosse talent is more spread out in suffolk compared to nassau where its more concentrated in a few towns.
There are only three B towns that are consistant, Manhasset, Garden City and Wantagh. All the other B towns never get more than a handful of strong players and then the bottom of their rosters are weak. A is always up and down and Cold Spring which is usually pretty strong plays no one in the C playoffs.
If Playoffs started tomorrow...Section 11
D-1
Middle Country 11-0-0 13-0-0 170.980
West Islip 8-2-0 9-3-0 145.940
Smithtown West 8-2-0 8-2-0 144.090
Smithtown East 8-3-0 8-4-0 138.820
Northport 6-3-0 7-3-0 134.980
North Babylon 8-3-0 8-3-0 131.940
Commack HS 8-2-0 9-3-0 126.530
Ward Melville 6-4-0 6-5-0 125.940
Connetquot 5-4-0 6-5-0 108.030
Sachem East 4-5-0 4-6-0 103.240
Bay Shore 4-6-0 4-7-0 102.600
H H Hills 4-5-0 5-6-0 101.850
outside looking in
Sachem North 4-6-0 4-7-0 96.410
D2
Eastport/SManor 10-1-0 11-1-0 159.950
Sayville 9-2-0 10-3-0 148.410
Hauppauge 8-3-0 9-4-0 146.140
Huntington 7-3-0 7-3-0 133.420
Comsewogue 8-3-0 9-3-0 113.910
West Babylon 5-6-0 5-8-0 112.410
Rocky Point 5-6-0 5-6-0 111.800
Harborfields 7-4-0 8-4-0 109.880
outside looking in
Westhampton 4-5-0 4-6-0 107.780
D3
Mt Sinai 11-0-0 12-0-0 176.690
Bayport-Blue Pt 9-2-0 9-2-0 150.870
Matt/Gpt/Shld 7-4-0 8-4-0 117.480
Shoreham WR 6-5-0 7-5-0 116.350
Babylon 5-6-0 6-6-0 101.110
outside looking in
Elwood/J Glenn 3-6-0 4-7-0 83.700
As Senior days approach we will find out how many coaches do the right thing and play all of the Seniors for at least a couple of minutes in their last home game.
Long Island All American Invites went out, looks like a lot of thought anf fairness went into this. Congratulations to all of the elite players selected to participate!
As Senior days approach we will find out how many coaches do the right thing and play all of the Seniors for at least a couple of minutes in their last home game.
I would hope ALL of them would!!!!
As Senior days approach we will find out how many coaches do the right thing and play all of the Seniors for at least a couple of minutes in their last home game.
I would hope ALL of them would!!!!
I heard Sachem North didn't
Take a look at GC's score against Oceanside… it was their senior day and every senior played and from the looks of it… scored… GC does the right thing. Their coaches get it.
As Senior days approach we will find out how many coaches do the right thing and play all of the Seniors for at least a couple of minutes in their last home game.
Even in a game that has playoff ramifications??
Anyone see the Manhasset versus Wantagh game yesterday? Looks like it was a great game
What was the score/result? Not a Newsday subscriber so don't get high school scores so easily.
What was the score/result? Not a Newsday subscriber so don't get high school scores so easily.
12-10 Manhasset. Close throughout. GC-Manhasset game Saturday has lots of playoff implicatiions.
Any word from School Girls Tryouts?
Any word from School Girls Tryouts?
I know emails went out on Wednesday, so i think most know who made it and who didnt.. but I havent seen the rosters yet..
All our seniors have quit, but if coaches can't do right by the bench when they are up by tons of goals why would senior day be different?
North Babylon did. All seniors scored. Even the goalie played attack and scored. That's the way to do it.
Congratulations to all of the girls who were selected as a Newsday Top 150 Player, lots of talent here on Long Island! Please don't post any nasty comments, let's give these girls the kydos they deserve. Nice to see so many goalies and defenders make the list!
I am an avid reader of the BOTC. I am constantly reading people talk about some 7th grader being the best girl in the County and the Manhasset girls being amazing etc... Not to take anything away from those girls, but they can learn a lot from a young lady who I watched play last night. This young lady, Katie Hoeg, from small town Mattituck is the epitome of a well rounded, productive, unselfish, team oriented lacrosse player. She is so enjoyable to watch and UNC is lucky to be getting her. She makes everybody on her team a better player. Kudos to her parents!!
So great to come on here and see something nice said about a player - very refreshing and something we should see more of
I too was at the game and agree with you! Would also like to call out another player - Kasey Choma - an 8th grader for ESM- who is such an amazing competitor for someone her age. and a joy to watch
ha nice mom
Too many bad coaches at the HS level. Manhasset, Northport, and CSH coaches win games because they have outstanding players. The three of them (just using examples, there are plenty more) are verbally abusive and self-centered. They should not be getting paid to teach children. I have close friends on CSH (my daughter plays with some in the summer) and it sounds like she is a psycho. This past weekend her halftime speech to the girls, who were only losing to the #4 team in the country by 2, was that they "suck" and "they will never be a great team". She also went on to personally embarrass and insult specific girls. Why do we as parents let this go on? Disgusting instructors like this need to be stopped.
and she is on way out
No truth to this. Find new friends
Wahhh... the coach yells at my daughter
The truth is verbal abuse is everywhere but it was more wide spread in football and boys sports and now the girls are dealing with. No coach has the right to verbally abuse a child whether they are losing, think they suck or makes a mistake. They should be fired. It's not about "wahh your yelling at my daughter" it's abuse!!! Whether it's high school, club or college it's not tolerated. College coaches are fired for this for both men and women high school should be no different. I was on the sidelines last year behind the ESM bench and heard BT tell a kid she was the worse f-Ing player she ever coached. I have witnessed CR do the same. Top programs or not these are your children!!
i believe they were recruited there as well and chose other options
Who selects the top 150 players for the newsday list? Are nominees suggested and then approved or disapproved by a review panel? Thank you.
Manhasset beats GC 10 - 9 in OT. GC scores with a minute left in second OT for the tie and referee called GC girl for dangerous shot and gave her a yellow card. Manhasset runs out the clock, a terrible way to end a great game
Manhasset beats GC 10 - 9 in OT. GC scores with a minute left in second OT for the tie and referee called GC girl for dangerous shot and gave her a yellow card. Manhasset runs out the clock, a terrible way to end a great game
Maybe it was a dangerous shot.
[quote=Anonymous]Manhasset beats GC 10 - 9 in OT. GC scores with a minute left in second OT for the tie and referee called GC girl for dangerous shot and gave her a yellow card. Manhasset runs out the clock, a terrible way to end a great game [/quote
GC also had two goals called back because of obstruction.
IMO it is too subjective of a call...the girl had just scored and had it called back for obstruction, so now she gets a free position and scores again. But wait, another whistle, dangerous shot, no goal and a yellow card. So many shots can be called dangerous if a referee is whistle happy. Like the NHL in OT I would hope a referee would swallow his whistle. That was a tremendous game last night, but to have it end that way left me with a sour taste.
The "obstruction" rule has to be changed. It penalizes the non offending team. The goal should be allowed to stand if scored, if not then a FP should be given.
IMO it is too subjective of a call...the girl had just scored and had it called back for obstruction, so now she gets a free position and scores again. But wait, another whistle, dangerous shot, no goal and a yellow card. So many shots can be called dangerous if a referee is whistle happy. Like the NHL in OT I would hope a referee would swallow his whistle. That was a tremendous game last night, but to have it end that way left me with a sour taste.
Once a defender is not engaged defensively and is in the shooting space, they become prone to getting a call again them. The shooter must show intent to shoot in order to get the call, pump the ball, reach back or whatever. Too many refs give the foul with no intent to shoot. On the flip side, once the shooter lets one fly with a defender in shooting space, it too is a foul, a shot they are not allowed to shoot. You should see a jump ball on a double foul, you should not see a free position shot awarded if the offense takes that shot. Dangerous shot and propelling is again a different call, that's basically shooting over and through a defender in good defensive position, basically the shooter does not have free shooting space to shoot. The unfortunate consequence of the sketchy girls rules is that it leaves games wide open for ref to heavily influence the outcome.
IMO it is too subjective of a call...the girl had just scored and had it called back for obstruction, so now she gets a free position and scores again. But wait, another whistle, dangerous shot, no goal and a yellow card. So many shots can be called dangerous if a referee is whistle happy. Like the NHL in OT I would hope a referee would swallow his whistle. That was a tremendous game last night, but to have it end that way left me with a sour taste.
Oh my god stop complaining! there were bad calls both ways. Look at the tape on MSG, there were 2 'set girls to her left on the 8 and at least one other down low to her right, and she was on the second hash from the elbow. What she should have done with 2 minuets left was pull the ball out and reset her attack. She took a risky shot and it didn't work out.
The CG player layed out the Manhasset defender with her follow through. #15 on Manhasset got slammed in the face to the ground from the shot. That's why the rule exists...
Too many girls are being injured because of dangerous follow throughs. Broken fingers, contusions and concussions are clearly on the rise. Refs rarely call it.
If your team won because of the non call I would be careful boasting and calling others names on here. What comes around goes around and your daughter may be next.
I see st anthonys beat mt Sinai today. Did mt Sinais best girl not play or they shut her out?
I see st anthonys beat mt Sinai today. Did mt Sinais best girl not play or they shut her out?
They faceguarded her and kept her off the scoreboard. I wish our coach would take notice. This is what good teams do when they play against good players.
I see st anthonys beat mt Sinai today. Did mt Sinais best girl not play or they shut her out?
They faceguarded her and kept her off the scoreboard. I wish our coach would take notice. This is what good teams do when they play against good players.
No true they did not face guard her at all. She took a lot of shots and missed or the goalie made save. 1 girl can not beat good teams.
I disagree. It's a new thing, girls are flopping to the ground and holding their heads after other team scores.
Tons of shots, don't think any goals. One person team...doesn't work so well, huh!
Too many girls are being injured because of dangerous follow throughs. Broken fingers, contusions and concussions are clearly on the rise. Refs rarely call it.
If your team won because of the non call I would be careful boasting and calling others names on here. What comes around goes around and your daughter may be next.
Follow along Hop. The DFT was called, and effectively ended the game.
It was the right call. The initial obstruction call on the other hand that negated the first game-tying goal and put the player on the line was not. And it was late.
Anyone know how many saves the Ward Melville Goalie had on Saturday Vs Bayport Blue Pt? I thought the girl played great, kept WM in the game.
The game was not reported to Newsday.
And no, I am not the Goalies Mother or Father.
As we approach the playoffs lets see if the 1 and 2 trick pony schools can advance beyond the first round? It's a team game, unless your only motivation is stat building and committing which is unfortunately more prevalent in lacrosse than in other sports.
Too many girls are being injured because of dangerous follow throughs. Broken fingers, contusions and concussions are clearly on the rise. Refs rarely call it.
If your team won because of the non call I would be careful boasting and calling others names on here. What comes around goes around and your daughter may be next.
Follow along Hop. The DFT was called, and effectively ended the game.
It was the right call. The initial obstruction call on the other hand that negated the first game-tying goal and put the player on the line was not. And it was late.
Hey anonymous. Follow the game and you'll see that shooting space, DFT and obstruction fouls are mishandled every game. The lack of understanding by officials concerning this issue is leading to an increase in injuries.
Btw I don't care about the outcome of the game in question. My comment was pointed at the epidemic of uninformed officials working the games of some of the best teams in the country.
How can you have an obstruction call when the girl proceeds to take a shot (through the obstruction) and then award the shooter a free position. By rule if a player shoots when there is an obstruction the shot is illegal. Watch a game and you'll see how many times that happens.
Too many girls are being injured because of dangerous follow throughs. Broken fingers, contusions and concussions are clearly on the rise. Refs rarely call it.
If your team won because of the non call I would be careful boasting and calling others names on here. What comes around goes around and your daughter may be next.
Follow along Hop. The DFT was called, and effectively ended the game.
It was the right call. The initial obstruction call on the other hand that negated the first game-tying goal and put the player on the line was not. And it was late.
Hey anonymous. Follow the game and you'll see that shooting space, DFT and obstruction fouls are Mia handled every game. The lack of understanding by officials concerning this issue is leading to an increase in injuries.
Btw I don't care about the outcome of the game in question. My comment was pointed at the epidemic of uninformed officials working the games of some of the best teams in the country.
How can you have an obstruction call when the girl proceeds to take a shot (through the obstruction) and then award the shooter a free position. By rule if a player shoots when there is an obstruction the shot is illegal. Watch a game and you'll see how many times that happens.
Take it easy Hop. There was a conversation in the thread about a specific game (probably the biggest regular season girls lax game of the year) and a specific obstruction call which was being questioned. The call was made and it was the right call.
Your second paragraph said "if
your team won because of the non call I would be careful boasting and calling others names on here". This reads like you're joining the conversation about this game and had the facts confused.
Too many girls are being injured because of dangerous follow throughs. Broken fingers, contusions and concussions are clearly on the rise. Refs rarely call it.
If your team won because of the non call I would be careful boasting and calling others names on here. What comes around goes around and your daughter may be next.
Follow along Hop. The DFT was called, and effectively ended the game.
It was the right call. The initial obstruction call on the other hand that negated the first game-tying goal and put the player on the line was not. And it was late.
Hey anonymous. Follow the game and you'll see that shooting space, DFT and obstruction fouls are mishandled every game. The lack of understanding by officials concerning this issue is leading to an increase in injuries.
Btw I don't care about the outcome of the game in question. My comment was pointed at the epidemic of uninformed officials working the games of some of the best teams in the country.
How can you have an obstruction call when the girl proceeds to take a shot (through the obstruction) and then award the shooter a free position. By rule if a player shoots when there is an obstruction the shot is illegal. Watch a game and you'll see how many times that happens.
Actually if a player moves into shooting space while the shot is being taken or after the shot is released the shot is not illegal. Its along the lines when a goalie gets hit by a shot because she moved into the shot then its a no call.
I disagree. It's a new thing, girls are flopping to the ground and holding their heads after other team scores.
Yes, some appear to have better acting skills than lax skills.
Anyone know how many saves the Ward Melville Goalie had on Saturday Vs Bayport Blue Pt? I thought the girl played great, kept WM in the game.
The game was not reported to Newsday.
And no, I am not the Goalies Mother or Father.
Don't know the stats, but she played amazing. It was a great game. Goalie for WM keeps getting better every game. She is going to be missed!
I get that both teams had their fair share of chances of winning the Manhasset-GC match up. However, I really feel the refs determined the last few minutes of the game. Had the game been able to continue on, who knows what the outcome might have been. But unfortunately we will never know. These girls have all worked way too hard to have a game be determined by a ref's subjective call. It happens all the time in women's lacrosse.
Question about the All American selections( no my daughter is not on that level). I have been told that that honor is based on many things ,level of play first, sportsmanship including number of penalty points etc., whether you make the players around you better.Do they actually take these things into account or is it just based on stats. If they do their are some interesting matchups coming up, do the stat builders run wild building up their numbers or do they worry about looking like they have horrible sportsmanship picking up big points in games they don't need to.
After reviewing the end of the game on MSG, I take back my previous post. Both teams weren't given their fair share of chances. The GC girl made the shot before the Manhasset girls got in front of her. The obstruction call was wrong, and the dangerous shot call is questionable.
I am the original poster about the play...I was not complaining, I was really pointing out the fact that why would a referee step into a game at this point and make such a subjective call that obviously changed the outcome of a great game. I watched as well and the first obstruction call was not a good call at all, but again this is subjective. The dangerous shot call was again a subjective call and it was not called by the same referee. It was called by the referee closer to the midfield. Hopefully GC will have another shot in the finals.
I was at the game, and the referees did a good job. For the most part, they let the girls play. They officiating became a bit tighter mid-way through the second half and during OT, but calls were good and bad both ways. Both teams had their chances and the outcome was a close as it could be. Hopefully they'll meet again in the playoffs.
I totally agree with the original poster. And yes, hopefully there will be another chance.
I also was at the game. I had no problem with the refs until the final few minutes. Both teams played very well and for the most part equally. I just think it was a shame to end such an exciting, well played game on a subjective and questionable call. It's not the ref's job to facilitate the outcome of a game, one way or the other.
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Did you talk to the AD?
You can doubt it all you want, but yesterday she publicly shamed three of her starters in front of the rest of the team and told them how horrible they are and that she doesn't need them. Not a great team building strategy. Last year she allowed a bunch of girls to go on a trip over Spring Break- gave them all permission- and then when the team lost a game, she screamed and yelled at those girls and blamed them for the loss. She creates incredible conflict for the girls within the team.
I have to agree with a previous post, that having a parent coach at that level is not a good idea. Add that to being a travel team coach, and there are too many conflicts of interest. No one will see her decisions as fair.
Virtually every coach in HS lax is coaching travel teams, that's what the entire yj model is based on and now the other clubs are trying to do the same
Hey Kathy, all the kids who you said were so selfish had 14 assists on 16 goals today? Are they selfish or are you just plain wrong?
***I am fed up with this. I really am. No one at HHS gives a damn about these girls and what the coach that they are PAYING is doing to them. This team has massive amounts of talent, but no one even wants to play anymore because they have been belittled, bullied, and publicly humiliated all season. If this was a teacher in a classroom he/she would be fired. In the past I was too afraid to speak up at Huntington because my child would be punished, like Kathy has done to others in the past, but at this point I think I am going to surpass the AD (WHO DOES NOTHING) and go right to the legal system. The Huntington handbook has rules against bullying and verbal abuse, so let's see if HHS will be able to shove this [lacrosse] under the rug once it is brought to light.
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Did you talk to the AD?
No - my child did. The AD supports the coach! Unbelievable. I am a believer of the "suck it up" factor, but not to this extreme. I will not let my child be BULLIED while playing a sport that she used to love.
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Ridiculous coaching. If her daughter plays varsity as an 8th grader next year we will all know why she is even there. No one has respect for her and she lacks the ability to coach these girls to being winning team.
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Does anyone else at HHS share this posters opinions?
You can doubt it all you want, but yesterday she publicly shamed three of her starters in front of the rest of the team and told them how horrible they are and that she doesn't need them. Not a great team building strategy. Last year she allowed a bunch of girls to go on a trip over Spring Break- gave them all permission- and then when the team lost a game, she screamed and yelled at those girls and blamed them for the loss. She creates incredible conflict for the girls within the team.
I have to agree with a previous post, that having a parent coach at that level is not a good idea. Add that to being a travel team coach, and there are too many conflicts of interest. No one will see her decisions as fair.
Virtually every coach in HS lax is coaching travel teams, that's what the entire yj model is based on and now the other clubs are trying to do the same
Hey Kathy, all the kids who you said were so selfish had 14 assists on 16 goals today? Are they selfish or are you just plain wrong?
***I am fed up with this. I really am. No one at HHS gives a damn about these girls and what the coach that they are PAYING is doing to them. This team has massive amounts of talent, but no one even wants to play anymore because they have been belittled, bullied, and publicly humiliated all season. If this was a teacher in a classroom he/she would be fired. In the past I was too afraid to speak up at Huntington because my child would be punished, like Kathy has done to others in the past, but at this point I think I am going to surpass the AD (WHO DOES NOTHING) and go right to the legal system. The Huntington handbook has rules against bullying and verbal abuse, so let's see if HHS will be able to shove this [lacrosse] under the rug once it is brought to light.
If children are being bullied at school you have the right by law to ask for an investigation.
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Am I missing something? Why would anyone be afraid of this woman?
What could be done about it? Seems to me that nothing will change. What about the superintendent ? Does he realize the extent of these allegations?
There should be an investigation! KW is a bully!
I am the original poster about the play...I was not complaining, I was really pointing out the fact that why would a referee step into a game at this point and make such a subjective call that obviously changed the outcome of a great game. I watched as well and the first obstruction call was not a good call at all, but again this is subjective. The dangerous shot call was again a subjective call and it was not called by the same referee. It was called by the referee closer to the midfield. Hopefully GC will have another shot in the finals.
Look at the tape again, G.C. clears everyone to the left, the shooter sweeps to the right past a double team and streaks to goal, #23 on the low post slides to the center and the ref immediately blows the whistle, even before the show was taken. During the free position you can see the shooter hits #19 in the head and she immediately drops to the ground. Hit the slow button that MSG provides. it might take a couple of times but you'll see it
Huntington seems to be the nicest girls to officiate. Coach is one of the only coaches not to go crazy at refs and the girls all seem to be respectable
Huntington seems to be the nicest girls to officiate. Coach is one of the only coaches not to go crazy at refs and the girls all seem to be respectable
The Huntington girls are a FANTASTIC group of girls who are going to amazing schools and have excellent GPAs.
Huntington seems to be the nicest girls to officiate. Coach is one of the only coaches not to go crazy at refs and the girls all seem to be respectable
The Huntington girls are a FANTASTIC group of girls who are going to amazing schools and have excellent GPAs.
I don't think anyone was questioning the girls character.
Huntington seems to be the nicest girls to officiate. Coach is one of the only coaches not to go crazy at refs and the girls all seem to be respectable
The Huntington girls are a FANTASTIC group of girls who are going to amazing schools and have excellent GPAs.
I don't think anyone was questioning the girls character.
I was agreeing with the original poster.
Is there such thing as All State Award for lacrosse? If so how are recipients determined? Thank you
Is there such thing as All State Award for lacrosse? If so how are recipients determined? Thank you
No, there is All-County and then the next level is Honorable Mention All-American, then All-American itself.
Newsday also gives out an "All-Long Island" award
I find it strange that suffolk will be favored to win A,C while Nassau will be favored to win B. If you took an all star team from suffolk and played an all star team from nassau the team from suffolk would be heavily favored in my opinion yet in many peoples opinion especially those from nassau lacrosse barely exists anywhere but nassau. Is it that lacrosse talent is more spread out in suffolk compared to nassau where its more concentrated in a few towns.
Back again? Review your post below.
"I would prefer to be banned as I do not believe my last 2 posts which were in response to other peoples posts were in any way nasty and were really about style of play. I will help you out and implement a life time ban of my own as your ever changing editing process and obvious bias make it too easy to distort peoples words.This will be my last post and I will block this site from my computer so as no others can post."
You can doubt it all you want, but yesterday she publicly shamed three of her starters in front of the rest of the team and told them how horrible they are and that she doesn't need them. Not a great team building strategy. Last year she allowed a bunch of girls to go on a trip over Spring Break- gave them all permission- and then when the team lost a game, she screamed and yelled at those girls and blamed them for the loss. She creates incredible conflict for the girls within the team.
I have to agree with a previous post, that having a parent coach at that level is not a good idea. Add that to being a travel team coach, and there are too many conflicts of interest. No one will see her decisions as fair.
Virtually every coach in HS lax is coaching travel teams, that's what the entire yj model is based on and now the other clubs are trying to do the same
Hey Kathy, all the kids who you said were so selfish had 14 assists on 16 goals today? Are they selfish or are you just plain wrong?
***I am fed up with this. I really am. No one at HHS gives a damn about these girls and what the coach that they are PAYING is doing to them. This team has massive amounts of talent, but no one even wants to play anymore because they have been belittled, bullied, and publicly humiliated all season. If this was a teacher in a classroom he/she would be fired. In the past I was too afraid to speak up at Huntington because my child would be punished, like Kathy has done to others in the past, but at this point I think I am going to surpass the AD (WHO DOES NOTHING) and go right to the legal system. The Huntington handbook has rules against bullying and verbal abuse, so let's see if HHS will be able to shove this [lacrosse] under the rug once it is brought to light.
If children are being bullied at school you have the right by law to ask for an investigation.
Bingo!
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
Or just do the American thing and start a ridiculous lawsuit like has been happening at many of the so called strong programs ,at least that is what I have been hearing.
Total of 15 Long Island girls are playing in the first round of the NCAA tournament, Fairfield vs. Princeton, being played at Stony Brook this Friday at 7pm. Come out and cheer for the local young ladies......Winner plays Stony Brook on Sunday...
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
Or just do the American thing and start a ridiculous lawsuit like has been happening at many of the so called strong programs ,at least that is what I have been hearing.
You would not need lawsuits if the issues are dealt with the right way. The problem is bigger than you think it is. First off you have a severe conflict of interest when you have a high school coach who is a director/coach of an outside travel program. Why do you think there are no travel players from outside of the YJ playing for Northport Varsity? Why - because of they want to have a shot at playing varsity they have to play for their varsity coaches travel program.
The second issue you have is hiring the right coaches. Just because someone played the game does not automatically make them a good coach. In many cases due to the teacher's union - coaches are hired from the pool of teachers in that school. This creates another conflict of interest. Are we hiring the best candidate or just the best candidates who applied because they are in the district as a teacher? It is also a conflict because athletic directors don't want to fire teachers who work for them.
Lastly, I am sure this post will receive complaints from the same people who are OK with coaches who use bullying tactics on children and use their influence as coaches as a threat to college careers. It's not about yelling at kids because they make mistakes. It's bullying kids and belittling them on the field in front of their peers, their teammates and their opponents. How about you try coaching them instead of tearing them down? Imagine a teacher ripping a kids head off in math class because she got a question wrong and threatening to call the admissions officer at the college they are applying to "to tell them they are not good enough."
I'm old school and I had tough coaches - however, they were tough - they were not bullies.
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Says the travel coach of many of the girls who stalks all the games and badmouths both the other players and the coach in the stands (even at their away games).
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
Or just do the American thing and start a ridiculous lawsuit like has been happening at many of the so called strong programs ,at least that is what I have been hearing.
You would not need lawsuits if the issues are dealt with the right way. The problem is bigger than you think it is. First off you have a severe conflict of interest when you have a high school coach who is a director/coach of an outside travel program. Why do you think there are no travel players from outside of the YJ playing for Northport Varsity? Why - because of they want to have a shot at playing varsity they have to play for their varsity coaches travel program.
The second issue you have is hiring the right coaches. Just because someone played the game does not automatically make them a good coach. In many cases due to the teacher's union - coaches are hired from the pool of teachers in that school. This creates another conflict of interest. Are we hiring the best candidate or just the best candidates who applied because they are in the district as a teacher? It is also a conflict because athletic directors don't want to fire teachers who work for them.
Lastly, I am sure this post will receive complaints from the same people who are OK with coaches who use bullying tactics on children and use their influence as coaches as a threat to college careers. It's not about yelling at kids because they make mistakes. It's bullying kids and belittling them on the field in front of their peers, their teammates and their opponents. How about you try coaching them instead of tearing them down? Imagine a teacher ripping a kids head off in math class because she got a question wrong and threatening to call the admissions officer at the college they are applying to "to tell them they are not good enough."
I'm old school and I had tough coaches - however, they were tough - they were not bullies.
Please, first why even bring Northport into this conversation, I guess the fact that Hunt has many non yj players on the field must prove CW has no bias..Do you honestly believe she would call a college coach to try and degrade one of their recruits and do you honestly believe a college coach would listen.All this constant abuse and no video etc.?? The thing is my kid has played against Hunt for the past 4 years in some close games and I have never seen the behavior you suggest .Have spoken with a few refs who say she is one of the nicest coaches out there.
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
Or just do the American thing and start a ridiculous lawsuit like has been happening at many of the so called strong programs ,at least that is what I have been hearing.
You would not need lawsuits if the issues are dealt with the right way. The problem is bigger than you think it is. First off you have a severe conflict of interest when you have a high school coach who is a director/coach of an outside travel program. Why do you think there are no travel players from outside of the YJ playing for Northport Varsity? Why - because of they want to have a shot at playing varsity they have to play for their varsity coaches travel program.
The second issue you have is hiring the right coaches. Just because someone played the game does not automatically make them a good coach. In many cases due to the teacher's union - coaches are hired from the pool of teachers in that school. This creates another conflict of interest. Are we hiring the best candidate or just the best candidates who applied because they are in the district as a teacher? It is also a conflict because athletic directors don't want to fire teachers who work for them.
Lastly, I am sure this post will receive complaints from the same people who are OK with coaches who use bullying tactics on children and use their influence as coaches as a threat to college careers. It's not about yelling at kids because they make mistakes. It's bullying kids and belittling them on the field in front of their peers, their teammates and their opponents. How about you try coaching them instead of tearing them down? Imagine a teacher ripping a kids head off in math class because she got a question wrong and threatening to call the admissions officer at the college they are applying to "to tell them they are not good enough."
I'm old school and I had tough coaches - however, they were tough - they were not bullies.
Don't forget the conflict of interest for all of the SC refs that are getting paid directly by her at all of her summer tournaments.
I find it strange that suffolk will be favored to win A,C while Nassau will be favored to win B. If you took an all star team from suffolk and played an all star team from nassau the team from suffolk would be heavily favored in my opinion yet in many peoples opinion especially those from nassau lacrosse barely exists anywhere but nassau. Is it that lacrosse talent is more spread out in suffolk compared to nassau where its more concentrated in a few towns.
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Just classic. What a bonehead.
There are no secrets that time does not reveal. Or Hop.
I was just on Newsday looking at HS girls lacrosse pics and I had a question, why does the Huntington coach allow her goalie to wear YJ shorts as part of her uniform?
I was just on Newsday looking at HS girls lacrosse pics and I had a question, why does the Huntington coach allow her goalie to wear YJ shorts as part of her uniform?
good spot...
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
Or just do the American thing and start a ridiculous lawsuit like has been happening at many of the so called strong programs ,at least that is what I have been hearing.
Really, lawsuits at many of the strong programs? Please tell what programs and the nature of the lawsuits. I have not heard anything about it.
Thanks
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
These two posts are from the same person. Don't try to boost your point by agreeing with yourself. It's weird.
If be curious to see if all of the Huntington bashing came from the same person.
what does ESM have to do with Huntiongton
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
Or just do the American thing and start a ridiculous lawsuit like has been happening at many of the so called strong programs ,at least that is what I have been hearing.
Really, lawsuits at many of the strong programs? Please tell what programs and the nature of the lawsuits. I have not heard anything about it.
Thanks
The ESM coach takes the cake on bullying players ask those parents what to do...nothing they are all too afraid
If be curious to see if all of the Huntington bashing came from the same person.
Started out with consecutive posts from one poster. Others joined in after. Not sure how many parents share the opinion of the original poster or if it's an isolated issue.
HHS, ESM,NP just to name a few kids are all bullied and parents sit helpless and watch!!! TRUTH,,,
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
Or just do the American thing and start a ridiculous lawsuit like has been happening at many of the so called strong programs ,at least that is what I have been hearing.
Really, lawsuits at many of the strong programs? Please tell what programs and the nature of the lawsuits. I have not heard anything about it.
Thanks
The ESM coach takes the cake on bullying players ask those parents what to do...nothing they are all too afraid
ESM coach is great and whoever you are don't try to lump all of us parents in with the two crazy ones or the parents whose kids have already graduated from program but can't seem to get on with their lives so need to keep stirring up controversy. The program is great, the kids love the coach. And are making GOOD memories. And shame on you as a parent if you feel your kid is bullied but are too much of a coward to have a conversation with the coach. Or better yet, have your child talk to the coach. These are varsity players not PAL. They are all so bullied that they decorated her office and surprised her for her birthday. Sorry you're not happy with your child's playing time but don't throw out accusations that are untrue.
[quote=Anonymous]HHS, ESM,NP just to name a few kids are all bullied and parents sit helpless and watch!!!
All the kids are bullied at these schools? Come on. The amount of embellishing and exaggerating that gets written on these boards is quite comical. I assume this is written by adults, and you're going to make a general statement that all kids here are bullied and parents are helpless. I am in one of those towns and there is no bullying going on. What is going on is some kids are performing better than others which causes some changes in who is stepping on the field. So the parents of the children not playing cry corruption, bullying, etc. Easy to blame the coach then take a good hard look at what's going on. Would you be saying the same thing if your child was playing? Doubtful. I'm sorry it's not turning out for you the way you thought but I'm sure you can think of much more mature and adult ways to handle it.
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
Or just do the American thing and start a ridiculous lawsuit like has been happening at many of the so called strong programs ,at least that is what I have been hearing.
Really, lawsuits at many of the strong programs? Please tell what programs and the nature of the lawsuits. I have not heard anything about it.
Thanks
The ESM coach takes the cake on bullying players ask those parents what to do...nothing they are all too afraid
ESM coach is great and whoever you are don't try to lump all of us parents in with the two crazy ones or the parents whose kids have already graduated from program but can't seem to get on with their lives so need to keep stirring up controversy. The program is great, the kids love the coach. And are making GOOD memories. And shame on you as a parent if you feel your kid is bullied but are too much of a coward to have a conversation with the coach. Or better yet, have your child talk to the coach. These are varsity players not PAL. They are all so bullied that they decorated her office and surprised her for her birthday. Sorry you're not happy with your child's playing time but don't throw out accusations that are untrue.
You are naďve if you think this is not happening at ESM. Your child might not be one of those kids that is being yelled and cursed at or maybe she's too afraid to tell you. I have heard the stories first hand. It has been going on for years. These parents will sit and watch it happen, because g-d forbid they upset the lacrosse g-ds! These coaches are on power trips and parents are fueling them and there egos! They do not hold your childs future in their hands, the parents let them believe they do. It's just a game!!!
GC and Sett are doing something right in their youth program. They keep developing large numbers of girls and not just a few like most towns in Nassau. The game I saw it looked like they ran out 4 lines of middies.
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
Or just do the American thing and start a ridiculous lawsuit like has been happening at many of the so called strong programs ,at least that is what I have been hearing.
Really, lawsuits at many of the strong programs? Please tell what programs and the nature of the lawsuits. I have not heard anything about it.
Thanks
Don't want The Hop to go crazy so let me preface this with I have no direct knowledge if what I was told is factual. I have heard Manhasset and CSH school districts are facing law suits from disgruntled parents of lax players. Let me also say my daughter has played for both those coaches at one time or another and found both to be very professional, she enjoyed playing for the CSH coach a more as she found her to be a lot of fun also.
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Does anyone else at HHS share this posters opinions?
I have been watching the KW bashing and have to say something. My daughter is coached by 'big bad KW' and you know what, this is all a pack of lies. There is no bullying, yelling, intimidating etc. I WILL tell you what is happening. At every home game the daughter of the director of Elevate is there, sits with all of the Elevate parents and riles them up. Tells them how bad of a coach KW is, how their daughter deserves more playing time over the other girls, how she should be removed. THEN, she goes over and speak to the girls after the games and says the same thing to them. Along the lines of "you are only NOT playing because you are on Elevate, only the YJ girls play" (which is not true). Now all of these people are in a frenzy, start believing this nonsense and accusing KW (who is a great coach and a wonderful person) of this garbage. What's her motivation?? Apparently she wants a head coaching gig to legitimize Elevate (since they do not have any Varsity coaches) Her resume, she coaches PAL so of course she could do a better job!!!!
Then all of the Elevate parents come on here and vent, thinking there is a conspiracy. The only conspiracy, sad to say is that all of the people complaining got taken by this woman and her father (who I am sure is behind this) with cruel intentions. Honestly, you have to ask yourself, if your daughter isn't playing, there is a reason. They want to win, if she was good she would be in there.
I am sure not a slew of parents will tell me this isn't the case, but you would be lying. Anyone in the stands will tell you this is happening, and frankly, if you spoke to your daughters, instead of feeding them garbage about how bad their coach is, you would hear them tell you all of this nonsense about KW is a bunch of lies.
Oh, and my understanding is she does this at the CSH games as well, and we have all seen the bashing on this thread about her.
Hey Huntington - how about you all stop bitching about your coach and whomever may or may not be in the stands - parents, coaches, players and most of all AD need to address this as a group - not a closed session, but as a group of adults and teens who care about the future of your girls and your program. FIGURE IT OUT TOGETHER - it can be fixed - its NEVER too late
[quote=Anonymous]I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
Or just do the American thing and start a ridiculous lawsuit like has been happening at many of the so called strong programs ,at least that is what I have been hearing.
Really, lawsuits at many of the strong programs? Please tell what programs and the nature of the lawsuits. I have not heard anything about it.
Thanks
The ESM coach takes the cake on bullying players ask those parents what to do...nothing they are all too afraid
You are naďve if you think this is not happening at ESM. Your child might not be one of those kids that is being yelled and cursed at or maybe she's too afraid to tell you. I have heard the stories first hand. It has been going on for years. These parents will sit and watch it happen, because g-d forbid they upset the lacrosse g-ds! These coaches are on power trips and parents are fueling them and there egos! They do not hold your childs future in their hands, the parents let them believe they do. It's just a game!!!
Not naive at all and my child is definitely not afraid to tell me if that is happening. These accusations about coaches has been going on for years and it's usually the parents of the kids that don't play or get pulled. ESM has crazy parents like every other town. If there are parents afraid to speak up because they don't want to upset the lax gods I say they have their own personal issues to deal with as opposed to false allegations. Isn't it easier to say the big bad coach is yelling at my kid and let's get rid of the coach? ESM has done it for years. It's embarrassing. A few power parents don't like the amount of playing time their kid is getting so run to the board hiding behind lies about the coach. It's so transparent. And the mommy ESM coach lurking in the sidelines trying to get people on her side is comical. Even the kids know what she's up to and saying.Stop embarrassing your kid and enjoy the game. You couldn't pay me enough to be a lax coach in that town. Of course the lurking mom thinks she can do it better and knows everything. If your kid isn't happy have her go talk to the coach.
Hey Huntington - how about you all stop bitching about your coach and whomever may or may not be in the stands - parents, coaches, players and most of all AD need to address this as a group - not a closed session, but as a group of adults and teens who care about the future of your girls and your program. FIGURE IT OUT TOGETHER - it can be fixed - its NEVER too late
You have to be kidding me. Being on a Lax team is a choice, this is not mandatory!! If the girls don't like their amount of playing time, supposed treatment or even the coach they should quit. There are plenty of girls behind them that would love to have their spots. The problem is that all of the posters think that they have the right to complain. This is a voluntary extra curricular activity. You do not have to play. STOP COMPLAINING!!!!
I am done with Huntington!!!!!! Coach is corrupt and the AD allows it to go on. What are our girls supposed to do when they are being bullied by a coach and no one at the school cares?
Ask ESM
Or just do the American thing and start a ridiculous lawsuit like has been happening at many of the so called strong programs ,at least that is what I have been hearing.
Really, lawsuits at many of the strong programs? Please tell what programs and the nature of the lawsuits. I have not heard anything about it.
Thanks
Don't want The Hop to go crazy so let me preface this with I have no direct knowledge if what I was told is factual. I have heard Manhasset and CSH school districts are facing law suits from disgruntled parents of lax players. Let me also say my daughter has played for both those coaches at one time or another and found both to be very professional, she enjoyed playing for the CSH coach a more as she found her to be a lot of fun also.
Not true at CSH.
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Does anyone else at HHS share this posters opinions?
I have been watching the KW bashing and have to say something. My daughter is coached by 'big bad KW' and you know what, this is all a pack of lies. There is no bullying, yelling, intimidating etc. I WILL tell you what is happening. At every home game the daughter of the director of Elevate is there, sits with all of the Elevate parents and riles them up. Tells them how bad of a coach KW is, how their daughter deserves more playing time over the other girls, how she should be removed. THEN, she goes over and speak to the girls after the games and says the same thing to them. Along the lines of "you are only NOT playing because you are on Elevate, only the YJ girls play" (which is not true). Now all of these people are in a frenzy, start believing this nonsense and accusing KW (who is a great coach and a wonderful person) of this garbage. What's her motivation?? Apparently she wants a head coaching gig to legitimize Elevate (since they do not have any Varsity coaches) Her resume, she coaches PAL so of course she could do a better job!!!!
Then all of the Elevate parents come on here and vent, thinking there is a conspiracy. The only conspiracy, sad to say is that all of the people complaining got taken by this woman and her father (who I am sure is behind this) with cruel intentions. Honestly, you have to ask yourself, if your daughter isn't playing, there is a reason. They want to win, if she was good she would be in there.
I am sure not a slew of parents will tell me this isn't the case, but you would be lying. Anyone in the stands will tell you this is happening, and frankly, if you spoke to your daughters, instead of feeding them garbage about how bad their coach is, you would hear them tell you all of this nonsense about KW is a bunch of lies.
Oh, and my understanding is she does this at the CSH games as well, and we have all seen the bashing on this thread about her.
Just to put this BS statement to bed, the majority of the starters are all Elevate girls. Majority of scoring has come from Elevate girls. This has nothing to do with playing time.
just win the county and that will shut these losers up
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Does anyone else at HHS share this posters opinions?
I have been watching the KW bashing and have to say something. My daughter is coached by 'big bad KW' and you know what, this is all a pack of lies. There is no bullying, yelling, intimidating etc. I WILL tell you what is happening. At every home game the daughter of the director of Elevate is there, sits with all of the Elevate parents and riles them up. Tells them how bad of a coach KW is, how their daughter deserves more playing time over the other girls, how she should be removed. THEN, she goes over and speak to the girls after the games and says the same thing to them. Along the lines of "you are only NOT playing because you are on Elevate, only the YJ girls play" (which is not true). Now all of these people are in a frenzy, start believing this nonsense and accusing KW (who is a great coach and a wonderful person) of this garbage. What's her motivation?? Apparently she wants a head coaching gig to legitimize Elevate (since they do not have any Varsity coaches) Her resume, she coaches PAL so of course she could do a better job!!!!
Then all of the Elevate parents come on here and vent, thinking there is a conspiracy. The only conspiracy, sad to say is that all of the people complaining got taken by this woman and her father (who I am sure is behind this) with cruel intentions. Honestly, you have to ask yourself, if your daughter isn't playing, there is a reason. They want to win, if she was good she would be in there.
I am sure not a slew of parents will tell me this isn't the case, but you would be lying. Anyone in the stands will tell you this is happening, and frankly, if you spoke to your daughters, instead of feeding them garbage about how bad their coach is, you would hear them tell you all of this nonsense about KW is a bunch of lies.
Oh, and my understanding is she does this at the CSH games as well, and we have all seen the bashing on this thread about her.
This has to be one of the worst cases of a 15 or 16 year old girl being called out on this thread! Does anyone not know who this poster is talking about? This "person" named the High School she plays for, and the fact that her father is the director of a major club and doesn't get edited? What is this poster a friend of the Hop, real selective enforcement on this one. Whay not just print her name?
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Does anyone else at HHS share this posters opinions?
I have been watching the KW bashing and have to say something. My daughter is coached by 'big bad KW' and you know what, this is all a pack of lies. There is no bullying, yelling, intimidating etc. I WILL tell you what is happening. At every home game the daughter of the director of Elevate is there, sits with all of the Elevate parents and riles them up. Tells them how bad of a coach KW is, how their daughter deserves more playing time over the other girls, how she should be removed. THEN, she goes over and speak to the girls after the games and says the same thing to them. Along the lines of "you are only NOT playing because you are on Elevate, only the YJ girls play" (which is not true). Now all of these people are in a frenzy, start believing this nonsense and accusing KW (who is a great coach and a wonderful person) of this garbage. What's her motivation?? Apparently she wants a head coaching gig to legitimize Elevate (since they do not have any Varsity coaches) Her resume, she coaches PAL so of course she could do a better job!!!!
Then all of the Elevate parents come on here and vent, thinking there is a conspiracy. The only conspiracy, sad to say is that all of the people complaining got taken by this woman and her father (who I am sure is behind this) with cruel intentions. Honestly, you have to ask yourself, if your daughter isn't playing, there is a reason. They want to win, if she was good she would be in there.
I am sure not a slew of parents will tell me this isn't the case, but you would be lying. Anyone in the stands will tell you this is happening, and frankly, if you spoke to your daughters, instead of feeding them garbage about how bad their coach is, you would hear them tell you all of this nonsense about KW is a bunch of lies.
Oh, and my understanding is she does this at the CSH games as well, and we have all seen the bashing on this thread about her.
Just to put this BS statement to bed, the majority of the starters are all Elevate girls. Majority of scoring has come from Elevate girls. This has nothing to do with playing time.
If you look at my statement above, I said it wasn't true that the Elevate girls weren't playing. What is it about then, other than the instigator at all of the games? Seriously!! My daughter can't understand. All of a sudden a small group decided they didn't "like" her. Please, it's coming from the parents. Last year all the same girls played together, no problems. What is the difference this year.
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Does anyone else at HHS share this posters opinions?
I have been watching the KW bashing and have to say something. My daughter is coached by 'big bad KW' and you know what, this is all a pack of lies. There is no bullying, yelling, intimidating etc. I WILL tell you what is happening. At every home game the daughter of the director of Elevate is there, sits with all of the Elevate parents and riles them up. Tells them how bad of a coach KW is, how their daughter deserves more playing time over the other girls, how she should be removed. THEN, she goes over and speak to the girls after the games and says the same thing to them. Along the lines of "you are only NOT playing because you are on Elevate, only the YJ girls play" (which is not true). Now all of these people are in a frenzy, start believing this nonsense and accusing KW (who is a great coach and a wonderful person) of this garbage. What's her motivation?? Apparently she wants a head coaching gig to legitimize Elevate (since they do not have any Varsity coaches) Her resume, she coaches PAL so of course she could do a better job!!!!
Then all of the Elevate parents come on here and vent, thinking there is a conspiracy. The only conspiracy, sad to say is that all of the people complaining got taken by this woman and her father (who I am sure is behind this) with cruel intentions. Honestly, you have to ask yourself, if your daughter isn't playing, there is a reason. They want to win, if she was good she would be in there.
I am sure not a slew of parents will tell me this isn't the case, but you would be lying. Anyone in the stands will tell you this is happening, and frankly, if you spoke to your daughters, instead of feeding them garbage about how bad their coach is, you would hear them tell you all of this nonsense about KW is a bunch of lies.
Oh, and my understanding is she does this at the CSH games as well, and we have all seen the bashing on this thread about her.
This has to be one of the worst cases of a 15 or 16 year old girl being called out on this thread! Does anyone not know who this poster is talking about? This "person" named the High School she plays for, and the fact that her father is the director of a major club and doesn't get edited? What is this poster a friend of the Hop, real selective enforcement on this one. Whay not just print her name?
From what I can read its Talking about a director and their adult child. So no individual players are getting bashed. If I am wrong I will edit those posts. Please message me if I am wrong.
His older daughter not his high school daughter genius!
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Does anyone else at HHS share this posters opinions?
I have been watching the KW bashing and have to say something. My daughter is coached by 'big bad KW' and you know what, this is all a pack of lies. There is no bullying, yelling, intimidating etc. I WILL tell you what is happening. At every home game the daughter of the director of Elevate is there, sits with all of the Elevate parents and riles them up. Tells them how bad of a coach KW is, how their daughter deserves more playing time over the other girls, how she should be removed. THEN, she goes over and speak to the girls after the games and says the same thing to them. Along the lines of "you are only NOT playing because you are on Elevate, only the YJ girls play" (which is not true). Now all of these people are in a frenzy, start believing this nonsense and accusing KW (who is a great coach and a wonderful person) of this garbage. What's her motivation?? Apparently she wants a head coaching gig to legitimize Elevate (since they do not have any Varsity coaches) Her resume, she coaches PAL so of course she could do a better job!!!!
Then all of the Elevate parents come on here and vent, thinking there is a conspiracy. The only conspiracy, sad to say is that all of the people complaining got taken by this woman and her father (who I am sure is behind this) with cruel intentions. Honestly, you have to ask yourself, if your daughter isn't playing, there is a reason. They want to win, if she was good she would be in there.
I am sure not a slew of parents will tell me this isn't the case, but you would be lying. Anyone in the stands will tell you this is happening, and frankly, if you spoke to your daughters, instead of feeding them garbage about how bad their coach is, you would hear them tell you all of this nonsense about KW is a bunch of lies.
Oh, and my understanding is she does this at the CSH games as well, and we have all seen the bashing on this thread about her.
This has to be one of the worst cases of a 15 or 16 year old girl being called out on this thread! Does anyone not know who this poster is talking about? This "person" named the High School she plays for, and the fact that her father is the director of a major club and doesn't get edited? What is this poster a friend of the Hop, real selective enforcement on this one. Whay not just print her name?
From what I can read its Talking about a director and their adult child. So no individual players are getting bashed. If I am wrong I will edit those posts. Please message me if I am wrong.
Yes. I am talking about the older daughter, who is in her 20's
HHS, ESM,NP just to name a few kids are all bullied and parents sit helpless and watch!!! TRUTH,,,
A word to the wise... You are accusing the coaches of a very serious criminal offense. You should be prepared to defend those statements in court as you have all opened yourselves to a libel defamation suit if they are not true. Please be very careful about your statements, they could have serious personal consequences. You are not anonymous on this site when it comes to legal matters. If you believe they are true and have proof, you should proceed accordingly and help protect the girls being impacted. If not, be quite and protect yourself.
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Does anyone else at HHS share this posters opinions?
I have been watching the KW bashing and have to say something. My daughter is coached by 'big bad KW' and you know what, this is all a pack of lies. There is no bullying, yelling, intimidating etc. I WILL tell you what is happening. At every home game the daughter of the director of Elevate is there, sits with all of the Elevate parents and riles them up. Tells them how bad of a coach KW is, how their daughter deserves more playing time over the other girls, how she should be removed. THEN, she goes over and speak to the girls after the games and says the same thing to them. Along the lines of "you are only NOT playing because you are on Elevate, only the YJ girls play" (which is not true). Now all of these people are in a frenzy, start believing this nonsense and accusing KW (who is a great coach and a wonderful person) of this garbage. What's her motivation?? Apparently she wants a head coaching gig to legitimize Elevate (since they do not have any Varsity coaches) Her resume, she coaches PAL so of course she could do a better job!!!!
Then all of the Elevate parents come on here and vent, thinking there is a conspiracy. The only conspiracy, sad to say is that all of the people complaining got taken by this woman and her father (who I am sure is behind this) with cruel intentions. Honestly, you have to ask yourself, if your daughter isn't playing, there is a reason. They want to win, if she was good she would be in there.
I am sure not a slew of parents will tell me this isn't the case, but you would be lying. Anyone in the stands will tell you this is happening, and frankly, if you spoke to your daughters, instead of feeding them garbage about how bad their coach is, you would hear them tell you all of this nonsense about KW is a bunch of lies.
Oh, and my understanding is she does this at the CSH games as well, and we have all seen the bashing on this thread about her.
This has to be one of the worst cases of a 15 or 16 year old girl being called out on this thread! Does anyone not know who this poster is talking about? This "person" named the High School she plays for, and the fact that her father is the director of a major club and doesn't get edited? What is this poster a friend of the Hop, real selective enforcement on this one. Whay not just print her name?
Not a friend of mine. Thanks for thinking of me however.
Selective enforcement? What are you talking about? I think the posts are referring to a college aged coach and an adult club director.
The posts are the opinion of the author.
NOW you want a censor? Thought you wanted free speech?
Can't have it both ways! A minor has not been called out so the posts stand.
I will add that Team Elevate offers a great experience for its players and families. If there is a bias against their players I would expect them to stand up against it. Other clubs sit back and let their players get slighted and do nothing about it.
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Does anyone else at HHS share this posters opinions?
I have been watching the KW bashing and have to say something. My daughter is coached by 'big bad KW' and you know what, this is all a pack of lies. There is no bullying, yelling, intimidating etc. I WILL tell you what is happening. At every home game the daughter of the director of Elevate is there, sits with all of the Elevate parents and riles them up. Tells them how bad of a coach KW is, how their daughter deserves more playing time over the other girls, how she should be removed. THEN, she goes over and speak to the girls after the games and says the same thing to them. Along the lines of "you are only NOT playing because you are on Elevate, only the YJ girls play" (which is not true). Now all of these people are in a frenzy, start believing this nonsense and accusing KW (who is a great coach and a wonderful person) of this garbage. What's her motivation?? Apparently she wants a head coaching gig to legitimize Elevate (since they do not have any Varsity coaches) Her resume, she coaches PAL so of course she could do a better job!!!!
Then all of the Elevate parents come on here and vent, thinking there is a conspiracy. The only conspiracy, sad to say is that all of the people complaining got taken by this woman and her father (who I am sure is behind this) with cruel intentions. Honestly, you have to ask yourself, if your daughter isn't playing, there is a reason. They want to win, if she was good she would be in there.
I am sure not a slew of parents will tell me this isn't the case, but you would be lying. Anyone in the stands will tell you this is happening, and frankly, if you spoke to your daughters, instead of feeding them garbage about how bad their coach is, you would hear them tell you all of this nonsense about KW is a bunch of lies.
Oh, and my understanding is she does this at the CSH games as well, and we have all seen the bashing on this thread about her.
Just to put this BS statement to bed, the majority of the starters are all Elevate girls. Majority of scoring has come from Elevate girls. This has nothing to do with playing time.
If you look at my statement above, I said it wasn't true that the Elevate girls weren't playing. What is it about then, other than the instigator at all of the games? Seriously!! My daughter can't understand. All of a sudden a small group decided they didn't "like" her. Please, it's coming from the parents. Last year all the same girls played together, no problems. What is the difference this year.
The TE directors have gone to games to support the players who play for them at many high schools like St. Anthony's, Syosset, Seaford, Oyster Bay, Sacred Heart, etc. ? There are no issues with any of these schools. Calling out a director for supporting their girls - really?
Reading comprehension - no on criticized them for attending. the post complained about behavior at the game.
Sec 11 Playoff picture
D1
Middle Country 13-0-0 15-0-0 181.370
West Islip 10-2-0 11-3-0 157.190
Smithtown East 9-3-0 10-4-0 148.870
Smithtown West 10-2-0 11-2-0 148.230
Northport 8-3-0 9-3-0 144.310
Ward Melville 8-4-0 8-6-0 138.480
North Babylon 9-3-0 9-3-0 133.470
Commack HS 8-4-0 9-5-0 118.080
Sachem North 7-6-0 7-7-0 111.180
Sachem East 5-6-0 5-7-0 108.910
Connetquot 7-5-0 8-6-0 106.410
Bay Shore 5-7-0 5-8-0 100.760
outside looking in
H H Hills 5-7-0 6-8-0 99.510
D2
Eastport/SManor 11-1-0 12-1-0 166.970
Hauppauge 9-3-0 10-4-0 151.750
Sayville 9-3-0 10-4-0 148.090
Huntington 7-4-0 8-4-0 133.420
Harborfields 9-4-0 10-4-0 119.900
Comsewogue 9-3-0 10-3-0 118.450
West Babylon 6-6-0 6-8-0 113.870
Westhampton 5-6-0 5-7-0 112.130
outside looking in
Rocky Point 6-7-0 6-7-0 111.970
D3
Mt Sinai 12-0-0 13-1-0 182.640
Bayport-Blue Pt 10-2-0 11-2-0 159.630
Matt/Gpt/Shld 8-4-0 9-4-0 122.700
Shoreham WR 6-6-0 7-6-0 112.620
Babylon 7-6-0 8-6-0 107.930
outside looking in
Elwood/J Glenn 3-8-0 4-9-0 72.410
I was told that only 11 will make it this year D1 due to the movement of teams and that the bracket on the section 11 website was wrong. Does anyone know this to be true? Still 12 ?? Thank you..
The updated "Power Rankings" were posted today, Smithtown West moved down to 4th place. West has a better record than Smithtown East and the same record as West Islip. West has beaten both teams head to head. It would seem that they should be ranked ahead of both. The power ranking system seems a little flawed.
In response to the 20 minute rant above.. Untrue. It's not TE causing the problems. Ask the PARENTS what the situation is. Has nothing to do with anything other than what has been documented here. I have come to KW defense but have now seen first hand the truth. It's upsetting.
The updated "Power Rankings" were posted today, Smithtown West moved down to 4th place. West has a better record than Smithtown East and the same record as West Islip. West has beaten both teams head to head. It would seem that they should be ranked ahead of both. The power ranking system seems a little flawed.
The only non league game you played was against a weak EI team and the fact that half of your games are against the bottom of D1 gives you a lower power ranking. WI is probably higher because they played only the top of the division and two strong non conference games against WB & Hauppauge.
Plus West lost to Northport and Ward Melville...East beat Northport and Ward Melville. I give West credit though...new goalie and still doing well.
Sec 11 Playoff picture
D1
Middle Country 13-0-0 15-0-0 181.370
West Islip 10-2-0 11-3-0 157.190
Smithtown East 9-3-0 10-4-0 148.870
Smithtown West 10-2-0 11-2-0 148.230
Northport 8-3-0 9-3-0 144.310
Ward Melville 8-4-0 8-6-0 138.480
North Babylon 9-3-0 9-3-0 133.470
Commack HS 8-4-0 9-5-0 118.080
Sachem North 7-6-0 7-7-0 111.180
Sachem East 5-6-0 5-7-0 108.910
Connetquot 7-5-0 8-6-0 106.410
Bay Shore 5-7-0 5-8-0 100.760
outside looking in
H H Hills 5-7-0 6-8-0 99.510
D2
Eastport/SManor 11-1-0 12-1-0 166.970
Hauppauge 9-3-0 10-4-0 151.750
Sayville 9-3-0 10-4-0 148.090
Huntington 7-4-0 8-4-0 133.420
Harborfields 9-4-0 10-4-0 119.900
Comsewogue 9-3-0 10-3-0 118.450
West Babylon 6-6-0 6-8-0 113.870
Westhampton 5-6-0 5-7-0 112.130
outside looking in
Rocky Point 6-7-0 6-7-0 111.970
D3
Mt Sinai 12-0-0 13-1-0 182.640
Bayport-Blue Pt 10-2-0 11-2-0 159.630
Matt/Gpt/Shld 8-4-0 9-4-0 122.700
Shoreham WR 6-6-0 7-6-0 112.620
Babylon 7-6-0 8-6-0 107.930
outside looking in
Elwood/J Glenn 3-8-0 4-9-0 72.410
Looks like D2 will change a little with the big upset today at ESM.
The coach to whom you are referring is a director of an expanding travel program, coaches many different teams, and handles the majority of the college recruiting for the club. She is not a PAL coach. She has close relationships with her players and their families. She is not only a great coach, but a mentor and one of the most impressive young ladies I've ever met. I think the KW bashing should stop and the Elevate bashing should stop. Everyone makes choices that work for his/her situation. I'm sure many people find fault with YJ coaches and with other public school coaches. That's life. Let's focus on ALL of our players and the end of this tumultuous season.
The coach to whom you are referring is a director of an expanding travel program, coaches many different teams, and handles the majority of the college recruiting for the club. She is not a PAL coach. She has close relationships with her players and their families. She is not only a great coach, but a mentor and one of the most impressive young ladies I've ever met. I think the KW bashing should stop and the Elevate bashing should stop. Everyone makes choices that work for his/her situation. I'm sure many people find fault with YJ coaches and with other public school coaches. That's life. Let's focus on ALL of our players and the end of this tumultuous season.
I agree.
What happened to ESM today?
What happened to ESM today?
Lost to wb
What happened to ESM today?
We got out coached because the ESM trio have made it virtually impossible for the coach to coach without running to the board or superintendent or a parent whose kids aren't even in the school any more but hasn't learned to move on with his life and making up lies about the coach. So the AD can sit there all he wants and babysit but he won't see anything because there is nothing to see. What the trio don't realize is that this is just bringing the coach's supporters out and bringing them closer and they will stick up for her along with the players. Eventually the people you are whining to will realize you're just upset about the lack of playing thek your child is getting. There needs to be a change with ESM girls lacrosse but it's not the varsity coach,it starts at the youth level. Maybe it's time for a new youth director. Taking nothing away for
West Babylon, they played a great game today and their two players control the offense and defense. Congratulations to them-they deserved to win.
In all fairness, Team Elevate advertises on this website and thus contributes $$ to Back of the Cage. I have seen the BOTC moderators come to the defense of Team Elevate, perhaps deservedly, perhaps not. That is a matter of opinion, to which, I believe, we are all entitled.
I think many other school districts can relate to this post and have the same issues someway or another , that's what happens when volunteers think this is a new career building field to finally get their perfect life they always wanted.
Our youth is ran with ridiculous standards with much red tape and absolutely no qualifications from those who make up these rules . People will learn their lesson as the bottom slowly falls out from under them one by one . We all know that someone , somewhere !
What happened to ESM today?
We got out coached because the ESM trio have made it virtually impossible for the coach to coach without running to the board or superintendent or a parent whose kids aren't even in the school any more but hasn't learned to move on with his life and making up lies about the coach. So the AD can sit there all he wants and babysit but he won't see anything because there is nothing to see. What the trio don't realize is that this is just bringing the coach's supporters out and bringing them closer and they will stick up for her along with the players. Eventually the people you are whining to will realize you're just upset about the lack of playing thek your child is getting. There needs to be a change with ESM girls lacrosse but it's not the varsity coach,it starts at the youth level. Maybe it's time for a new youth director. Taking nothing away for
West Babylon, they played a great game today and their two players control the offense and defense. Congratulations to them-they deserved to win.
The power rankings system doesn't seem to make sense, as Smithtown West dropped to 4th with West Islip and Smithtown East ahead of them. Smithtown West has a better record than East and same record as West Isliip but has beaten both teams this year. How does that work?
In all fairness, Team Elevate advertises on this website and thus contributes $$ to Back of the Cage. I have seen the BOTC moderators come to the defense of Team Elevate, perhaps deservedly, perhaps not. That is a matter of opinion, to which, I believe, we are all entitled.
Mr. Anonymous,
We call it like it is. Any defense of Elevate and the young coach and director have been warranted. The attacks are opinion as you say and come from parents who allow...allegedly....their girls to be bullied and do nothing but post on BOTC. Also keep in mind a large number of the posts come from the same person.
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Does anyone else at HHS share this posters opinions?
I have been watching the KW bashing and have to say something. My daughter is coached by 'big bad KW' and you know what, this is all a pack of lies. There is no bullying, yelling, intimidating etc. I WILL tell you what is happening. At every home game the daughter of the director of Elevate is there, sits with all of the Elevate parents and riles them up. Tells them how bad of a coach KW is, how their daughter deserves more playing time over the other girls, how she should be removed. THEN, she goes over and speak to the girls after the games and says the same thing to them. Along the lines of "you are only NOT playing because you are on Elevate, only the YJ girls play" (which is not true). Now all of these people are in a frenzy, start believing this nonsense and accusing KW (who is a great coach and a wonderful person) of this garbage. What's her motivation?? Apparently she wants a head coaching gig to legitimize Elevate (since they do not have any Varsity coaches) Her resume, she coaches PAL so of course she could do a better job!!!!
Then all of the Elevate parents come on here and vent, thinking there is a conspiracy. The only conspiracy, sad to say is that all of the people complaining got taken by this woman and her father (who I am sure is behind this) with cruel intentions. Honestly, you have to ask yourself, if your daughter isn't playing, there is a reason. They want to win, if she was good she would be in there.
I am sure not a slew of parents will tell me this isn't the case, but you would be lying. Anyone in the stands will tell you this is happening, and frankly, if you spoke to your daughters, instead of feeding them garbage about how bad their coach is, you would hear them tell you all of this nonsense about KW is a bunch of lies.
Oh, and my understanding is she does this at the CSH games as well, and we have all seen the bashing on this thread about her.
She goes to the games to support the girls she coaches (there's 12 of them on Huntington). She goes to numerous other player's games at other schools because she enjoys watching them. To slander her like this is wrong. Last Huntington game she sat in the corner by herself so she could just enjoy watching, that's it. The texts she sends to the girls she coaches are always about "having fun" and "lacrosse is a game so just enjoy it".
She goes to watch many, many other players and there is no problem at all, at least not to my knowledge, at any of these schools. Besides that, she has also been coming to Huntington games for a few years and none of this has ever happened. Parents and players are upset because our daughters are being treated unfairly. They are belittled, one example being when KW put three girls on blast in front of their entire team and said they were not needed. Mind you, these three girls have been pivotal parts of the team and are all fantastic young ladies going to top colleges for not only athletics, but academics too.
Please be more careful when you post things of this nature, since clearly you don't know the young woman well enough. She has made major positive impacts in all of her players lives and we are grateful to know her.
What happened to ESM today?
We got out coached because the ESM trio have made it virtually impossible for the coach to coach without running to the board or superintendent or a parent whose kids aren't even in the school any more but hasn't learned to move on with his life and making up lies about the coach. So the AD can sit there all he wants and babysit but he won't see anything because there is nothing to see. What the trio don't realize is that this is just bringing the coach's supporters out and bringing them closer and they will stick up for her along with the players. Eventually the people you are whining to will realize you're just upset about the lack of playing thek your child is getting. There needs to be a change with ESM girls lacrosse but it's not the varsity coach,it starts at the youth level. Maybe it's time for a new youth director. Taking nothing away for
West Babylon, they played a great game today and their two players control the offense and defense. Congratulations to them-they deserved to win.
that coach will be gone next year rightfully so
The power rankings system doesn't seem to make sense, as Smithtown West dropped to 4th with West Islip and Smithtown East ahead of them. Smithtown West has a better record than East and same record as West Isliip but has beaten both teams this year. How does that work?
The only non league game you played was against a weak EI team and the fact that half of your games are against the bottom of D1 gives you a lower power ranking. WI is probably higher because they played only the top of the division and two strong non conference games against WB & Hauppauge.
The power rankings has a lot to do with strength of schedule. East was the 5th seed going into the season, West was 9th. West's schedule is weaker and won't receive as many power points compared to East. Since East beat Ward Melville and Northport, they receive a certain percentage from each of their wins. West lost to both but still receive power points from West Islip because West beat them. Comes down to strength of schedule. Should be an interesting end to the season with West playing Middle Country and East playing North Babylon.
What happened to ESM today?
We got out coached because the ESM trio have made it virtually impossible for the coach to coach without running to the board or superintendent or a parent whose kids aren't even in the school any more but hasn't learned to move on with his life and making up lies about the coach. So the AD can sit there all he wants and babysit but he won't see anything because there is nothing to see. What the trio don't realize is that this is just bringing the coach's supporters out and bringing them closer and they will stick up for her along with the players. Eventually the people you are whining to will realize you're just upset about the lack of playing thek your child is getting. There needs to be a change with ESM girls lacrosse but it's not the varsity coach,it starts at the youth level. Maybe it's time for a new youth director. Taking nothing away for
West Babylon, they played a great game today and their two players control the offense and defense. Congratulations to them-they deserved to win.
that coach will be gone next year rightfully so
We are lucky to have her. She's so horrible that since she's been here they've made it to counties every year. And don't even say it's because of the youth program. Your youth director at the Huntington game was making a scene and asking why players on her own ESM team weren't getting pulled out when her daughter did. Yelling at the coach from the stands. Even the Huntington parents were asking who the ESM parent was that was bashing her own team's players. Great leadership. You're either the dad whose kids have already graduated who pats himself on the back every chance he gets to remind anyone who will listen that you started all the youth sports at ESM and that it's not about winnjng but making great memories to talk about at your ten year reunion-or
You're one of the parents of the kids not playing making up lies. Either way it doesn't matter. It's not the first lacrosse coach the ESM parents have run out of this town, just the winningest. I wish her the best wherever she ends up.
Huntington coach today banned the players from talking to anyone after the games...how ridiculous is that? If I want to talk to my kid, I'll talk to my kid
Glad someone agrees with me! Too bad we are all afraid to speak about it with each other in person because of big bad Kathy.
Does anyone else at HHS share this posters opinions?
I have been watching the KW bashing and have to say something. My daughter is coached by 'big bad KW' and you know what, this is all a pack of lies. There is no bullying, yelling, intimidating etc. I WILL tell you what is happening. At every home game the daughter of the director of Elevate is there, sits with all of the Elevate parents and riles them up. Tells them how bad of a coach KW is, how their daughter deserves more playing time over the other girls, how she should be removed. THEN, she goes over and speak to the girls after the games and says the same thing to them. Along the lines of "you are only NOT playing because you are on Elevate, only the YJ girls play" (which is not true). Now all of these people are in a frenzy, start believing this nonsense and accusing KW (who is a great coach and a wonderful person) of this garbage. What's her motivation?? Apparently she wants a head coaching gig to legitimize Elevate (since they do not have any Varsity coaches) Her resume, she coaches PAL so of course she could do a better job!!!!
Then all of the Elevate parents come on here and vent, thinking there is a conspiracy. The only conspiracy, sad to say is that all of the people complaining got taken by this woman and her father (who I am sure is behind this) with cruel intentions. Honestly, you have to ask yourself, if your daughter isn't playing, there is a reason. They want to win, if she was good she would be in there.
I am sure not a slew of parents will tell me this isn't the case, but you would be lying. Anyone in the stands will tell you this is happening, and frankly, if you spoke to your daughters, instead of feeding them garbage about how bad their coach is, you would hear them tell you all of this nonsense about KW is a bunch of lies.
Oh, and my understanding is she does this at the CSH games as well, and we have all seen the bashing on this thread about her.
She goes to the games to support the girls she coaches (there's 12 of them on Huntington). She goes to numerous other player's games at other schools because she enjoys watching them. To slander her like this is wrong. Last Huntington game she sat in the corner by herself so she could just enjoy watching, that's it. The texts she sends to the girls she coaches are always about "having fun" and "lacrosse is a game so just enjoy it".
She goes to watch many, many other players and there is no problem at all, at least not to my knowledge, at any of these schools. Besides that, she has also been coming to Huntington games for a few years and none of this has ever happened. Parents and players are upset because our daughters are being treated unfairly. They are belittled, one example being when KW put three girls on blast in front of their entire team and said they were not needed. Mind you, these three girls have been pivotal parts of the team and are all fantastic young ladies going to top colleges for not only athletics, but academics too.
Please be more careful when you post things of this nature, since clearly you don't know the young woman well enough. She has made major positive impacts in all of her players lives and we are grateful to know her.
Everything you said can also be said about KW. I don't know what you think you know, but I sit in those stands and trust me when I say, she is not promoting the 'fun' of the game to the TE parents. She is belittling the coach. That has a trickle down effect. Plus, have you seen the texts?? Probably not, so how would you know?
What happened to ESM today?
We got out coached because the ESM trio have made it virtually impossible for the coach to coach without running to the board or superintendent or a parent whose kids aren't even in the school any more but hasn't learned to move on with his life and making up lies about the coach. So the AD can sit there all he wants and babysit but he won't see anything because there is nothing to see. What the trio don't realize is that this is just bringing the coach's supporters out and bringing them closer and they will stick up for her along with the players. Eventually the people you are whining to will realize you're just upset about the lack of playing thek your child is getting. There needs to be a change with ESM girls lacrosse but it's not the varsity coach,it starts at the youth level. Maybe it's time for a new youth director. Taking nothing away for
West Babylon, they played a great game today and their two players control the offense and defense. Congratulations to them-they deserved to win.
that coach will be gone next year rightfully so
We are lucky to have her. She's so horrible that since she's been here they've made it to counties every year. And don't even say it's because of the youth program. Your youth director at the Huntington game was making a scene and asking why players on her own ESM team weren't getting pulled out when her daughter did. Yelling at the coach from the stands. Even the Huntington parents were asking who the ESM parent was that was bashing her own team's players. Great leadership. You're either the dad whose kids have already graduated who pats himself on the back every chance he gets to remind anyone who will listen that you started all the youth sports at ESM and that it's not about winnjng but making great memories to talk about at your ten year reunion-or
You're one of the parents of the kids not playing making up lies. Either way it doesn't matter. It's not the first lacrosse coach the ESM parents have run out of this town, just the winningest. I wish her the best wherever she ends up.
it's not all about winning. it has nothing to do with playing time. damaging young girls to have a winning record on a hs team is not ok, or something to reward. she should go coach a college team after ESM gets rid of her.
Everything you said can also be said about KW. I don't know what you think you know, but I sit in those stands and trust me when I say, she is not promoting the 'fun' of the game to the TE parents. She is belittling the coach. That has a trickle down effect. Plus, have you seen the texts?? Probably not, so how would you know?
Yes I have seen the texts. I have also seen the unbelievably encouraging emails as well. You are talking about polar opposites, KW belittles and bullies the girls. She plays mind games.
What happened to ESM today?
We got out coached because the ESM trio have made it virtually impossible for the coach to coach without running to the board or superintendent or a parent whose kids aren't even in the school any more but hasn't learned to move on with his life and making up lies about the coach. So the AD can sit there all he wants and babysit but he won't see anything because there is nothing to see. What the trio don't realize is that this is just bringing the coach's supporters out and bringing them closer and they will stick up for her along with the players. Eventually the people you are whining to will realize you're just upset about the lack of playing thek your child is getting. There needs to be a change with ESM girls lacrosse but it's not the varsity coach,it starts at the youth level. Maybe it's time for a new youth director. Taking nothing away for
West Babylon, they played a great game today and their two players control the offense and defense. Congratulations to them-they deserved to win.
that coach will be gone next year rightfully so
We are lucky to have her. She's so horrible that since she's been here they've made it to counties every year. And don't even say it's because of the youth program. Your youth director at the Huntington game was making a scene and asking why players on her own ESM team weren't getting pulled out when her daughter did. Yelling at the coach from the stands. Even the Huntington parents were asking who the ESM parent was that was bashing her own team's players. Great leadership. You're either the dad whose kids have already graduated who pats himself on the back every chance he gets to remind anyone who will listen that you started all the youth sports at ESM and that it's not about winnjng but making great memories to talk about at your ten year reunion-or
You're one of the parents of the kids not playing making up lies. Either way it doesn't matter. It's not the first lacrosse coach the ESM parents have run out of this town, just the winningest. I wish her the best wherever she ends up.
it's not all about winning. it has nothing to do with playing time. damaging young girls to have a winning record on a hs team is not ok, or something to reward. she should go coach a college team after ESM gets rid of her.
she's not damaging these kids you parents are. this is how esm was years ago, find a coach that a few "power parents" can give the lineup to and when that coach won't roll over, make accusations and get them removed. Its not about winning? tell that to the dad who had a 10 year reunion for his winning peewee football team.
What happened to ESM today?
We got out coached because the ESM trio have made it virtually impossible for the coach to coach without running to the board or superintendent or a parent whose kids aren't even in the school any more but hasn't learned to move on with his life and making up lies about the coach. So the AD can sit there all he wants and babysit but he won't see anything because there is nothing to see. What the trio don't realize is that this is just bringing the coach's supporters out and bringing them closer and they will stick up for her along with the players. Eventually the people you are whining to will realize you're just upset about the lack of playing thek your child is getting. There needs to be a change with ESM girls lacrosse but it's not the varsity coach,it starts at the youth level. Maybe it's time for a new youth director. Taking nothing away for
West Babylon, they played a great game today and their two players control the offense and defense. Congratulations to them-they deserved to win.
that coach will be gone next year rightfully so
We are lucky to have her. She's so horrible that since she's been here they've made it to counties every year. And don't even say it's because of the youth program. Your youth director at the Huntington game was making a scene and asking why players on her own ESM team weren't getting pulled out when her daughter did. Yelling at the coach from the stands. Even the Huntington parents were asking who the ESM parent was that was bashing her own team's players. Great leadership. You're either the dad whose kids have already graduated who pats himself on the back every chance he gets to remind anyone who will listen that you started all the youth sports at ESM and that it's not about winnjng but making great memories to talk about at your ten year reunion-or
You're one of the parents of the kids not playing making up lies. Either way it doesn't matter. It's not the first lacrosse coach the ESM parents have run out of this town, just the winningest. I wish her the best wherever she ends up.
it's not all about winning. it has nothing to do with playing time. damaging young girls to have a winning record on a hs team is not ok, or something to reward. she should go coach a college team after ESM gets rid of her.
So are you saying college coaches damage players for winning records? Interesting comment...but I agree that's she's good enough to coach college so thanks for the vote of confidence in our great coach!
I was at the ESM game in question and the parent yelled an encouraging comment to her daughter when she was taken out of the game. I did not hear any comments directed at the coach.
I just wanted to clear that up in response to an earlier post.
I was at the ESM game in question and the parent yelled an encouraging comment to her daughter when she was taken out of the game. I did not hear any comments directed at the coach.
I just wanted to clear that up in response to an earlier post.
Yes I heard that too. "Everyone makes mistakes" I believe. Very true. But then every time a teammate made a mistake she would say why don't you take her out of the game. She's had a tally sheet out for years never saying anything positive. I just thought it sad and embarrassing when I got a text from one of our Huntington friends relaying the behavior of our own parent.
I was at the ESM game in question and the parent yelled an encouraging comment to her daughter when she was taken out of the game. I did not hear any comments directed at the coach.
I just wanted to clear that up in response to an earlier post.
Yes I heard that too. "Everyone makes mistakes" I believe. Very true. But then every time a teammate made a mistake she would say why don't you take her out of the game. She's had a tally sheet out for years never saying anything positive. I just thought it sad and embarrassing when I got a text from one of our Huntington friends relaying the behavior of our own parent.
I understand but as you know first hand knowledge is much more reliable than second hand texts. I will say I did hear some ridiculous comments being yelled out by Huntington parents. Nothing worth making a stink about however.
I just want to be clear that in response to the post bashing this parent I can say from first hand knowledge there was none of that nonsense going on. Just normal parent banter that's at every game.
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
That's my understanding of it.
How did the UNC commited goalie do at school girls?
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
That's my understanding of it.
How did the UNC commited goalie do at school girls?
Made the First Team. She's excellent.
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
I am outsider and know nothing about the program other than following in newsday. Are you saying that there is a UNC lacrosse commit who does not play ? or not start ? Not starting maybe. Not playing, something is wrong. There are very few programs where any D1 commit Doesn't play at all. And I mean very few.
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
That's my understanding of it.
How did the UNC commited goalie do at school girls?
UNC Goalie made Team 1.
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
I am outsider and know nothing about the program other than following in newsday. Are you saying that there is a UNC lacrosse commit who does not play ? or not start ? Not starting maybe. Not playing, something is wrong. There are very few programs where any D1 commit Doesn't play at all. And I mean very few.
I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that. That's crazy!
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
That's my understanding of it.
How did the UNC commited goalie do at school girls?
UNC Goalie made Team 1.
That speaks volumes.
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
That's my understanding of it.
How did the UNC commited goalie do at school girls?
Made the First Team. She's excellent.
She certainly has a style that stands out.. very quick, and covers alot of ground.. can sometimes be out of position.
as a 2016 there are two committed 2015' in front of her..certainly would start on just about every other LI team Nassau or Suffolk
Wantagh, Manhasset and GC
Was there this much drama in ESM before you were upset by WB? Was it the losing to an inferior team or getting outcoached by the TG director in a YJ town?
Was there this much drama in ESM before you were upset by WB? Was it the losing to an inferior team or getting outcoached by the TG director in a YJ town?
Yes there has been for years. Not a TG vs YJ issue. But good try.
Was there this much drama in ESM before you were upset by WB? Was it the losing to an inferior team or getting outcoached by the TG director in a YJ town?
Yes there has been for years. Not a TG vs YJ issue. But good try.
The ESM parents in the stands crying about him being there prove you wrong Hop
Was there this much drama in ESM before you were upset by WB? Was it the losing to an inferior team or getting outcoached by the TG director in a YJ town?
Yes there has been for years. Not a TG vs YJ issue. But good try.
The ESM parents in the stands crying about him being there prove you wrong Hop
They were asking whether or not he is a certified coach and belonged on the sidelines coaching. The YJ are not threatened by him as far as I have been told but many people contacted me asking if he was an approved NYS HS coach. I do not know that answer. Maybe someone else has that answer.
Your question was "was there this much drama" with ESM before WB beat them and the answer remains YES there was. It is not new drama.
So before you say I'm wrong maybe re read your own attempt at pot stirring. At least you didn't call out a kid this time. Thanks
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
That's my understanding of it.
How did the UNC commited goalie do at school girls?
Made the First Team. She's excellent.
She certainly has a style that stands out.. very quick, and covers alot of ground.. can sometimes be out of position.
as a 2016 there are two committed 2015' in front of her..certainly would start on just about every other LI team Nassau or Suffolk
Same thing is happening at Sachem East, D1 commit hasn't played 1 second of a game. What makes it worse is that the starter is an uncommitted Jr.
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
That's my understanding of it.
How did the UNC commited goalie do at school girls?
Made the First Team. She's excellent.
She certainly has a style that stands out.. very quick, and covers alot of ground.. can sometimes be out of position.
as a 2016 there are two committed 2015' in front of her..certainly would start on just about every other LI team Nassau or Suffolk
Same thing is happening at Sachem East, D1 commit hasn't played 1 second of a game. What makes it worse is that the starter is an uncommitted Jr.
This is not an attack on any of the players being discussed. I do not know any of them. However, there are 100 plus Division 1 teams out there and not all are created equally.
There is a big difference between being committed to a Top 20 team and a team 30 and below.
Just saying D1 is painting with a very broad brush.
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
That's my understanding of it.
How did the UNC commited goalie do at school girls?
Made the First Team. She's excellent.
She certainly has a style that stands out.. very quick, and covers alot of ground.. can sometimes be out of position.
as a 2016 there are two committed 2015' in front of her..certainly would start on just about every other LI team Nassau or Suffolk
Same thing is happening at Sachem East, D1 commit hasn't played 1 second of a game. What makes it worse is that the starter is an uncommitted Jr.
This is not an attack on any of the players being discussed. I do not know any of them. However, there are 100 plus Division 1 teams out there and not all are created equally.
There is a big difference between being committed to a Top 20 team and a team 30 and below.
Just saying D1 is painting with a very broad brush.
So what are you saying? That any team 30 or below the players aren't as good? Most of these girls go toe to toe with each other day in and day out? As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, on this same thread there is talk of W.B. (girl going to the same school that you deem not as good) beat ESM (A team with many D1's that you deem better) every year is new and anyone can become #1
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
That's my understanding of it.
How did the UNC commited goalie do at school girls?
UNC Goalie made Team 1.
That speaks volumes.
Goes to show you that recruiting totally and 100% goes through summer travel teams and not school ball.
Sorry my bad it was the girl from N.B. going to the same school as the S.E. girl
The Bottom 50 D1 teams would have a pretty big fall off in ability and would be given a good run by a lot of the top D2 and D3 teams. The bottom 10 D1 teams this year are-
LIU Brooklyn
Stetson
St Bonnie
Preb
Mercer
St Marys
St Francis
Howard
Gardner Webb
Del State
G
What happened to ESM today?
We got out coached because the ESM trio have made it virtually impossible for the coach to coach without running to the board or superintendent or a parent whose kids aren't even in the school any more but hasn't learned to move on with his life and making up lies about the coach. So the AD can sit there all he wants and babysit but he won't see anything because there is nothing to see. What the trio don't realize is that this is just bringing the coach's supporters out and bringing them closer and they will stick up for her along with the players. Eventually the people you are whining to will realize you're just upset about the lack of playing thek your child is getting. There needs to be a change with ESM girls lacrosse but it's not the varsity coach,it starts at the youth level. Maybe it's time for a new youth director. Taking nothing away for
West Babylon, they played a great game today and their two players control the offense and defense. Congratulations to them-they deserved to win.
that coach will be gone next year rightfully so
What's happening with the divisional alignments in Nassau next year? Sounds like some schools are pushing for changes to make their playoff path a little easier. Any info?
What happened to ESM today?
We got out coached because the ESM trio have made it virtually impossible for the coach to coach without running to the board or superintendent or a parent whose kids aren't even in the school any more but hasn't learned to move on with his life and making up lies about the coach. So the AD can sit there all he wants and babysit but he won't see anything because there is nothing to see. What the trio don't realize is that this is just bringing the coach's supporters out and bringing them closer and they will stick up for her along with the players. Eventually the people you are whining to will realize you're just upset about the lack of playing thek your child is getting. There needs to be a change with ESM girls lacrosse but it's not the varsity coach,it starts at the youth level. Maybe it's time for a new youth director. Taking nothing away for
West Babylon, they played a great game today and their two players control the offense and defense. Congratulations to them-they deserved to win.
that coach will be gone next year rightfully so
We are lucky to have her. She's so horrible that since she's been here they've made it to counties every year. And don't even say it's because of the youth program. Your youth director at the Huntington game was making a scene and asking why players on her own ESM team weren't getting pulled out when her daughter did. Yelling at the coach from the stands. Even the Huntington parents were asking who the ESM parent was that was bashing her own team's players. Great leadership. You're either the dad whose kids have already graduated who pats himself on the back every chance he gets to remind anyone who will listen that you started all the youth sports at ESM and that it's not about winnjng but making great memories to talk about at your ten year reunion-or
You're one of the parents of the kids not playing making up lies. Either way it doesn't matter. It's not the first lacrosse coach the ESM parents have run out of this town, just the winningest. I wish her the best wherever she ends up.
it's not all about winning. it has nothing to do with playing time. damaging young girls to have a winning record on a hs team is not ok, or something to reward. she should go coach a college team after ESM gets rid of her.
So are you saying college coaches damage players for winning records? Interesting comment...but I agree that's she's good enough to coach college so thanks for the vote of confidence in our great coach!
no. my point was that you have a choice of which college coach you play for. HS players have no choice but to play for her so it's up to the administration to make sure she's treating ALL the YOUNG GIRLS properly which she is not.
What happened to ESM today?
We got out coached because the ESM trio have made it virtually impossible for the coach to coach without running to the board or superintendent or a parent whose kids aren't even in the school any more but hasn't learned to move on with his life and making up lies about the coach. So the AD can sit there all he wants and babysit but he won't see anything because there is nothing to see. What the trio don't realize is that this is just bringing the coach's supporters out and bringing them closer and they will stick up for her along with the players. Eventually the people you are whining to will realize you're just upset about the lack of playing thek your child is getting. There needs to be a change with ESM girls lacrosse but it's not the varsity coach,it starts at the youth level. Maybe it's time for a new youth director. Taking nothing away for
West Babylon, they played a great game today and their two players control the offense and defense. Congratulations to them-they deserved to win.
that coach will be gone next year rightfully so
We are lucky to have her. She's so horrible that since she's been here they've made it to counties every year. And don't even say it's because of the youth program. Your youth director at the Huntington game was making a scene and asking why players on her own ESM team weren't getting pulled out when her daughter did. Yelling at the coach from the stands. Even the Huntington parents were asking who the ESM parent was that was bashing her own team's players. Great leadership. You're either the dad whose kids have already graduated who pats himself on the back every chance he gets to remind anyone who will listen that you started all the youth sports at ESM and that it's not about winnjng but making great memories to talk about at your ten year reunion-or
You're one of the parents of the kids not playing making up lies. Either way it doesn't matter. It's not the first lacrosse coach the ESM parents have run out of this town, just the winningest. I wish her the best wherever she ends up.
it's not all about winning. it has nothing to do with playing time. damaging young girls to have a winning record on a hs team is not ok, or something to reward. she should go coach a college team after ESM gets rid of her.
she's not damaging these kids you parents are. this is how esm was years ago, find a coach that a few "power parents" can give the lineup to and when that coach won't roll over, make accusations and get them removed. Its not about winning? tell that to the dad who had a 10 year reunion for his winning peewee football team.
she's gotta go. sorry if you're in her inner circle. i didn't say it's not about winning. i said it's not ALL about winning.
What's happening with the divisional alignments in Nassau next year? Sounds like some schools are pushing for changes to make their playoff path a little easier. Any info?
How does a school push for an easier alignment whenit's based on enrollment numbers?
What's happening with the divisional alignments in Nassau next year? Sounds like some schools are pushing for changes to make their playoff path a little easier. Any info?
I think if they changed the current format if would change the playoff brackets at all. It would just make the regular season a lot harder for some teams.
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
That's my understanding of it.
How did the UNC commited goalie do at school girls?
Kid is a very good goalie but how did she do last year at school girls or UA tryouts.How did the starting goalie do at those same tryouts.I have seen the UNC goalie and is the most athletic goalie I have seen but in the end it comes down to making saves etc.,
The Bottom 50 D1 teams would have a pretty big fall off in ability and would be given a good run by a lot of the top D2 and D3 teams. The bottom 10 D1 teams this year are-
LIU Brooklyn
Stetson
St Bonnie
Preb
Mercer
St Marys
St Francis
Howard
Gardner Webb
Del State
I wonder if you know how elites you sound? Would you come back on here and "eat crow" next year if any of these teams go above 50? I wonder who your super star is,where does she play or is committed to play? Will she be one of the throngs of those top 20 school, elite, better than them girls that go off to top 20 schools and disappear onto the bench, never to be seen on a field except at a practice as fodder? I'm sure your little darling is getting a full athletic ride to Florida, because she is so much better than the other 29 girls. But here is the truth, you know nothing of the girls going to these "bottom 10 schools", what offers the refused or why. Here's a thought , bottom 10 schools will give a good player a lot of money if they think they can help them get out of the bottom 10, and while your little darling is sitting on the bench at UNC, they will be playing. But at least you can ware the sweatshirt and brag how she's on the roster.
She looks like she's being electrocuted at times,athletic And definitely better than the starter
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
I am outsider and know nothing about the program other than following in newsday. Are you saying that there is a UNC lacrosse commit who does not play ? or not start ? Not starting maybe. Not playing, something is wrong. There are very few programs where any D1 commit Doesn't play at all. And I mean very few.
The UNC commit it excellent, however she's a junior. There is a senior commit to Stony Brook (who beat almost every other D1 team this year). So it's not as if the junior goalie is being kept on the bench because the senior is awful, she's awesome as well (obviously). But the senior plays because she's a senior, when she leaves next year the junior will get all of the playing time I am sure.
The Bottom 50 D1 teams would have a pretty big fall off in ability and would be given a good run by a lot of the top D2 and D3 teams. The bottom 10 D1 teams this year are-
LIU Brooklyn
Stetson
St Bonnie
Preb
Mercer
St Marys
St Francis
Howard
Gardner Webb
Del State
I wonder if you know how elites you sound? Would you come back on here and "eat crow" next year if any of these teams go above 50? I wonder who your super star is,where does she play or is committed to play? Will she be one of the throngs of those top 20 school, elite, better than them girls that go off to top 20 schools and disappear onto the bench, never to be seen on a field except at a practice as fodder? I'm sure your little darling is getting a full athletic ride to Florida, because she is so much better than the other 29 girls. But here is the truth, you know nothing of the girls going to these "bottom 10 schools", what offers the refused or why. Here's a thought , bottom 10 schools will give a good player a lot of money if they think they can help them get out of the bottom 10, and while your little darling is sitting on the bench at UNC, they will be playing. But at least you can ware the sweatshirt and brag how she's on the roster.
Agree with above poster. Original comment was of ignorance. There are lots of reasons GREAT players turn down top 20 schools. So close minded when make generic statements. Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Yale, Dartmouth, Brown, BU, Columbia just to name a few not listed in your top 30...must mean not good players right? No, just smarter!!
The difference this year is that the girls are caught in the middle of a conflict between two coaches who don't like each other. Elevate girls have been told by their varsity coach that they are the reason there is a rift on the team. There is no rift on the team. All of the girls get along well and are very kind to one another. But there are D1 committed girls who sit on the bench, who are phenomenal players. This is not just about playing time. This is about dampening the spirits of girls who love lacrosse and come to practice every day. It is an unfortunate abuse of power. Yesterday during senior day, one of the two senior goalies, who hasn't played ONE MINUTE this season, wasn't even granted the dignity of playing an entire half. How her coach could smile and hug her at the end of her last home game is beyond me. For the record, I am not a parent of a goalie, but that situation is the most egregious example of how not to coach young women. And for those who will say "Oh she must not be that good." All of the goalies on our team are great and do not deserve the humiliation of never playing. I would bet that even the goalie who gets to play 95% of the time would agree, because she is a great kid- like all of the girls. This problem has nothing to do with anything the girls have done. If anything, these benched girls (one going to UNC and one to American- they must be terrible) should be given a medal for their composure and continued devotion to their teammates.
I am outsider and know nothing about the program other than following in newsday. Are you saying that there is a UNC lacrosse commit who does not play ? or not start ? Not starting maybe. Not playing, something is wrong. There are very few programs where any D1 commit Doesn't play at all. And I mean very few.
The UNC commit it excellent, however she's a junior. There is a senior commit to Stony Brook (who beat almost every other D1 team this year). So it's not as if the junior goalie is being kept on the bench because the senior is awful, she's awesome as well (obviously). But the senior plays because she's a senior, when she leaves next year the junior will get all of the playing time I am sure.
The way KW has handled all of the goalies is atrocious. She has screwed with their heads completely. Make a mistake - you are done. Switch goalies. Other goalie makes a mistake - switch back. Then switch again, and maybe one more time.
The Bottom 50 D1 teams would have a pretty big fall off in ability and would be given a good run by a lot of the top D2 and D3 teams. The bottom 10 D1 teams this year are-
LIU Brooklyn
Stetson
St Bonnie
Preb
Mercer
St Marys
St Francis
Howard
Gardner Webb
Del State
I wonder if you know how elites you sound? Would you come back on here and "eat crow" next year if any of these teams go above 50? I wonder who your super star is,where does she play or is committed to play? Will she be one of the throngs of those top 20 school, elite, better than them girls that go off to top 20 schools and disappear onto the bench, never to be seen on a field except at a practice as fodder? I'm sure your little darling is getting a full athletic ride to Florida, because she is so much better than the other 29 girls. But here is the truth, you know nothing of the girls going to these "bottom 10 schools", what offers the refused or why. Here's a thought , bottom 10 schools will give a good player a lot of money if they think they can help them get out of the bottom 10, and while your little darling is sitting on the bench at UNC, they will be playing. But at least you can ware the sweatshirt and brag how she's on the roster.
Agree with above poster. Original comment was of ignorance. There are lots of reasons GREAT players turn down top 20 schools. So close minded when make generic statements. Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Yale, Dartmouth, Brown, BU, Columbia just to name a few not listed in your top 30...must mean not good players right? No, just smarter!!
Reading the original post, the statement is reasonable and certainly more accurate than your replies. If you look at the ratings on Laxpower, which is where the poster took the original data, none of the schools you listed for comparison purposes are in the bottom 50 except Columbia. The post never said the top x schools are better than all the rest. Certainly very good lax players go to all of the 107 programs listed, but they also go to the top D II and D III schools as well. The point was the top programs at those levels could compete with the lower ranked D I schools and by your own logic of good players could go anywhere, it certainly makes sense they could compete. Certainly the top 5 in D II and D III could complete with some of the D I schools. I think that was the point, not trying to put down individual player's abilities and decisions about where to attend college.
If Cortland D3 and Adelphi D2 played D1, give us a guess on what number they would be ranked of the 107 D1 teams?
The Bottom 50 D1 teams would have a pretty big fall off in ability and would be given a good run by a lot of the top D2 and D3 teams. The bottom 10 D1 teams this year are-
LIU Brooklyn
Stetson
St Bonnie
Preb
Mercer
St Marys
St Francis
Howard
Gardner Webb
Del State
I wonder if you know how elites you sound? Would you come back on here and "eat crow" next year if any of these teams go above 50? I wonder who your super star is,where does she play or is committed to play? Will she be one of the throngs of those top 20 school, elite, better than them girls that go off to top 20 schools and disappear onto the bench, never to be seen on a field except at a practice as fodder? I'm sure your little darling is getting a full athletic ride to Florida, because she is so much better than the other 29 girls. But here is the truth, you know nothing of the girls going to these "bottom 10 schools", what offers the refused or why. Here's a thought , bottom 10 schools will give a good player a lot of money if they think they can help them get out of the bottom 10, and while your little darling is sitting on the bench at UNC, they will be playing. But at least you can ware the sweatshirt and brag how she's on the roster.
Agree with above poster. Original comment was of ignorance. There are lots of reasons GREAT players turn down top 20 schools. So close minded when make generic statements. Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Yale, Dartmouth, Brown, BU, Columbia just to name a few not listed in your top 30...must mean not good players right? No, just smarter!!
Reading the original post, the statement is reasonable and certainly more accurate than your replies. If you look at the ratings on Laxpower, which is where the poster took the original data, none of the schools you listed for comparison purposes are in the bottom 50 except Columbia. The post never said the top x schools are better than all the rest. Certainly very good lax players go to all of the 107 programs listed, but they also go to the top D II and D III schools as well. The point was the top programs at those levels could compete with the lower ranked D I schools and by your own logic of good players could go anywhere, it certainly makes sense they could compete. Certainly the top 5 in D II and D III could complete with some of the D I schools. I think that was the point, not trying to put down individual player's abilities and decisions about where to attend college.
The original post said, and I quote "The Bottom 50 D1 teams would have a pretty big fall off in ability". That definitely is a slight to those lower ranked girls. It was pompous, and condescending. Neither reply said anything about D 2 or 3 players.
The Bottom 50 D1 teams would have a pretty big fall off in ability and would be given a good run by a lot of the top D2 and D3 teams. The bottom 10 D1 teams this year are-
LIU Brooklyn
Stetson
St Bonnie
Preb
Mercer
St Marys
St Francis
Howard
Gardner Webb
Del State
I wonder if you know how elites you sound? Would you come back on here and "eat crow" next year if any of these teams go above 50? I wonder who your super star is,where does she play or is committed to play? Will she be one of the throngs of those top 20 school, elite, better than them girls that go off to top 20 schools and disappear onto the bench, never to be seen on a field except at a practice as fodder? I'm sure your little darling is getting a full athletic ride to Florida, because she is so much better than the other 29 girls. But here is the truth, you know nothing of the girls going to these "bottom 10 schools", what offers the refused or why. Here's a thought , bottom 10 schools will give a good player a lot of money if they think they can help them get out of the bottom 10, and while your little darling is sitting on the bench at UNC, they will be playing. But at least you can ware the sweatshirt and brag how she's on the roster.
Agree with above poster. Original comment was of ignorance. There are lots of reasons GREAT players turn down top 20 schools. So close minded when make generic statements. Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Yale, Dartmouth, Brown, BU, Columbia just to name a few not listed in your top 30...must mean not good players right? No, just smarter!!
Reading the original post, the statement is reasonable and certainly more accurate than your replies. If you look at the ratings on Laxpower, which is where the poster took the original data, none of the schools you listed for comparison purposes are in the bottom 50 except Columbia. The post never said the top x schools are better than all the rest. Certainly very good lax players go to all of the 107 programs listed, but they also go to the top D II and D III schools as well. The point was the top programs at those levels could compete with the lower ranked D I schools and by your own logic of good players could go anywhere, it certainly makes sense they could compete. Certainly the top 5 in D II and D III could complete with some of the D I schools. I think that was the point, not trying to put down individual player's abilities and decisions about where to attend college.
The original post said, and I quote "The Bottom 50 D1 teams would have a pretty big fall off in ability". That definitely is a slight to those lower ranked girls. It was pompous, and condescending. Neither reply said anything about D 2 or 3 players.
Below is the original post on the topic at 7:36pm which clearly states below talking about the top 30 programs which means the listed schools above are included in that "big difference" poster is talking about. Again my point is girls chose other schools for all reasons even though they can play with the best. Sorry about the ego blow!
"This is not an attack on any of the players being discussed. I do not know any of them. However, there are 100 plus Division 1 teams out there and not all are created equally.
There is a big difference between being committed to a Top 20 team and a team 30 and below.
Just saying D1 is painting with a very broad brush."
It's not a blow to any ego, but you still sound like an elitist, condescending Anonymous hero. Like I said if any of those teams rise to a level you deem worthy, or even improved drastically over the next 2 to 3 years would you be as quick to give accolades as you are to put them down publicly? Probably not.
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
MAYBE ITS COACHING,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
MAYBE ITS COACHING,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahaha. Yeah it's the coaching that makes Syracuse better than LIU Brooklyn. Not talent. Hurry there's a hole in the sand that's missing your head. Lol
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
MAYBE ITS COACHING,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahaha. Yeah it's the coaching that makes Syracuse better than LIU Brooklyn. Not talent. Hurry there's a hole in the sand that's missing your head. Lol
people like you run to the best, sit on the bench, never play, and are the first ones on line boasting how good WE are. Other people go to worst and make them better. It all depends how you judge success. I would rather play on a bad team and know they got better because of me, than watch other people wearing the same uniform as me win a championship while I cheerlead.
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
The original post on the subject matter brought into question players ability who commit to teams that were ranked 30 and below. Simply stated (although you don't seem to be following) many athletes prefer to chose schools not just based on what they are ranked but rather for return of investment, academic excellence and career advancement. Therefore generic statements of girls committing to D1 programs that are ranked below 30 must not be able to run with the "big boys" is ignorant. Not being politically correct, nor am I a liberal freak, but rather someone who is laughing at your stupidity. My daughter will benefit from her opportunity to have an IVY league education for many years to come while you are still re-living your "glory days" through your children...who by the way is most likely watching the game, like you, from a bench!!!
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
The original post on the subject matter brought into question players ability who commit to teams that were ranked 30 and below. Simply stated (although you don't seem to be following) many athletes prefer to chose schools not just based on what they are ranked but rather for return of investment, academic excellence and career advancement. Therefore generic statements of girls committing to D1 programs that are ranked below 30 must not be able to run with the "big boys" is ignorant. Not being politically correct, nor am I a liberal freak, but rather someone who is laughing at your stupidity. My daughter will benefit from her opportunity to have an IVY league education for many years to come while you are still re-living your "glory days" through your children...who by the way is most likely watching the game, like you, from a bench!!!
Bravo!
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
MAYBE ITS COACHING,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahaha. Yeah it's the coaching that makes Syracuse better than LIU Brooklyn. Not talent. Hurry there's a hole in the sand that's missing your head. Lol
people like you run to the best, sit on the bench, never play, and are the first ones on line boasting how good WE are. Other people go to worst and make them better. It all depends how you judge success. I would rather play on a bad team and know they got better because of me, than watch other people wearing the same uniform as me win a championship while I cheerlead.
That's a ridiculous assumption. Maybe the posters kid will play at a top school and maybe your kid can't. Doesn't make the top kid or parent wrong or an ego maniac.
No one is wrong if they choose a school first and a program second. It still doesn't change the fact that top programs have more talent does it? Isn't that kinda factual?
Not sure what this argument is about.
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
The original post on the subject matter brought into question players ability who commit to teams that were ranked 30 and below. Simply stated (although you don't seem to be following) many athletes prefer to chose schools not just based on what they are ranked but rather for return of investment, academic excellence and career advancement. Therefore generic statements of girls committing to D1 programs that are ranked below 30 must not be able to run with the "big boys" is ignorant. Not being politically correct, nor am I a liberal freak, but rather someone who is laughing at your stupidity. My daughter will benefit from her opportunity to have an IVY league education for many years to come while you are still re-living your "glory days" through your children...who by the way is most likely watching the game, like you, from a bench!!!
That's pretty snobbish and presumptuous of you. Talk about ignorant.
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
The original post on the subject matter brought into question players ability who commit to teams that were ranked 30 and below. Simply stated (although you don't seem to be following) many athletes prefer to chose schools not just based on what they are ranked but rather for return of investment, academic excellence and career advancement. Therefore generic statements of girls committing to D1 programs that are ranked below 30 must not be able to run with the "big boys" is ignorant. Not being politically correct, nor am I a liberal freak, but rather someone who is laughing at your stupidity. My daughter will benefit from her opportunity to have an IVY league education for many years to come while you are still re-living your "glory days" through your children...who by the way is most likely watching the game, like you, from a bench!!!
Bravo!
Same poster saying Bravo! To their own post. Talk about stupidity.
Adelphi would be ranked number 46 in division one.
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
MAYBE ITS COACHING,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahaha. Yeah it's the coaching that makes Syracuse better than LIU Brooklyn. Not talent. Hurry there's a hole in the sand that's missing your head. Lol
people like you run to the best, sit on the bench, never play, and are the first ones on line boasting how good WE are. Other people go to worst and make them better. It all depends how you judge success. I would rather play on a bad team and know they got better because of me, than watch other people wearing the same uniform as me win a championship while I cheerlead.
That's a ridiculous assumption. Maybe the posters kid will play at a top school and maybe your kid can't. Doesn't make the top kid or parent wrong or an ego maniac.
No one is wrong if they choose a school first and a program second. It still doesn't change the fact that top programs have more talent does it? Isn't that kinda factual?
Not sure what this argument is about.
Than keep out of it, Neither side asked your opinion and nothing was against your rules. More talent yes the only , or most talented not always. Maybe the posters kid will sit the bench. Maybe the my kid was recruited to A top 20. A lot of maybes for either you or the other poster to make demeaning remarks about a school, a kid, or that kids choice. For someone that supposed to moderate fairness on this site, to say my kid can't compete at that level is pretty petty of you, you don't know her, where she has played, or what she has accomplished.
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
MAYBE ITS COACHING,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahaha. Yeah it's the coaching that makes Syracuse better than LIU Brooklyn. Not talent. Hurry there's a hole in the sand that's missing your head. Lol
people like you run to the best, sit on the bench, never play, and are the first ones on line boasting how good WE are. Other people go to worst and make them better. It all depends how you judge success. I would rather play on a bad team and know they got better because of me, than watch other people wearing the same uniform as me win a championship while I cheerlead.
That's a ridiculous assumption. Maybe the posters kid will play at a top school and maybe your kid can't. Doesn't make the top kid or parent wrong or an ego maniac.
No one is wrong if they choose a school first and a program second. It still doesn't change the fact that top programs have more talent does it? Isn't that kinda factual?
Not sure what this argument is about.
Than keep out of it, Neither side asked your opinion and nothing was against your rules. More talent yes the only , or most talented not always. Maybe the posters kid will sit the bench. Maybe the my kid was recruited to A top 20. A lot of maybes for either you or the other poster to make demeaning remarks about a school, a kid, or that kids choice. For someone that supposed to moderate fairness on this site, to say my kid can't compete at that level is pretty petty of you, you don't know her, where she has played, or what she has accomplished.
Hey psycho. You started with the petty put downs so possibly it's time for you to keep out of it. If there was anything against our rules your petty BS wouldn't see the light of day. Also, I could care less about your kid or her school choice. It's your posts and nasty comments and your lack of fairness that's all our issue. You want to pick a fight with me I wish you good luck.
Other than that I will have an opinion just like you.
The idea holds no water- that means that there would only be juniors and seniors playing and whether someone is good, because they're younger, they sit on the bench. Most of the juniors playing now came in as starters when they were freshman and have played ever since- they didn't wait until the older girls were finished. That also means that the 7th graders- a bunch who play for KW on her YJ team- who came up to JV this year are patiently waiting their turn until they're in 9th or 10th grade? What I hear is 7th graders are playing and 9th and 10th graders saying they will leave lacrosse next year because of the 7th graders being there. The senior goalie is no better than the juniorgoalie, so they should both play. Why does it make sense to you that the senior goalie gets to play the majority of her HS time and the other one has to wait? And what about the other goalie, a senior, who never plays? Terrible argument.
You call me a psycho? I never put down a players ability, or marginalized a 17 year old girl because I don't think their lacrosse ability meets a certain standard. That you and your friend did. Go back and read the discussion again, all I did was point out something that happened at one school also happened at another, how was that or another post that I ever posted nasty. You think you have the right to make up lies about people because your a moderator? Just because you are doesn't make your opinion right, and mine wrong. If you think I'm unfair what does that make you? A bully, because you don't like me or my opinions doesn't give you the right to make up those lies about me.Oh and it's really big of you to say you don't care about a 17 y/o/ girl that never did anything to you, but thats what bullies do isn't it.If you care so little why did you insert yourself in the conversation, do as many of us do and roll your eyes and move on. But then you couldn't spit your hatred of me and my daughter.
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
The original post on the subject matter brought into question players ability who commit to teams that were ranked 30 and below. Simply stated (although you don't seem to be following) many athletes prefer to chose schools not just based on what they are ranked but rather for return of investment, academic excellence and career advancement. Therefore generic statements of girls committing to D1 programs that are ranked below 30 must not be able to run with the "big boys" is ignorant. Not being politically correct, nor am I a liberal freak, but rather someone who is laughing at your stupidity. My daughter will benefit from her opportunity to have an IVY league education for many years to come while you are still re-living your "glory days" through your children...who by the way is most likely watching the game, like you, from a bench!!!
Your post is now saying that quality of education is deciding choice of program and you are putting down the top 30 with your Ivy comment. Obviously, you did not take a hard look at the top 30, 4 Ivy schools and many other top academic choices. How about the following top 30 schools from an education perspective, apparently not enough quality for your liking? UNC, Duke, Northwestern, Boston College, Stanford, Virginia, Notre Dame, Cornell, Princeton, Penn, Johns Hopkins, US Naval Academy, Harvard
You call me a psycho? I never put down a players ability, or marginalized a 17 year old girl because I don't think their lacrosse ability meets a certain standard. That you and your friend did. Go back and read the discussion again, all I did was point out something that happened at one school also happened at another, how was that or another post that I ever posted nasty. You think you have the right to make up lies about people because your a moderator? Just because you are doesn't make your opinion right, and mine wrong. If you think I'm unfair what does that make you? A bully, because you don't like me or my opinions doesn't give you the right to make up those lies about me.Oh and it's really big of you to say you don't care about a 17 y/o/ girl that never did anything to you, but thats what bullies do isn't it.If you care so little why did you insert yourself in the conversation, do as many of us do and roll your eyes and move on. But then you couldn't spit your hatred of me and my daughter.
Lies? Bullying? You need help.
Hopefully your Ivy Leaguer is going to be studying psychology. Just saying cause I really care. Is that better?
You must be a real hit at the Board of Education meetings the way you fabricate drama.
In the words of Joe Dirt. "Life's a garden...Dig it". Lol
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
The original post on the subject matter brought into question players ability who commit to teams that were ranked 30 and below. Simply stated (although you don't seem to be following) many athletes prefer to chose schools not just based on what they are ranked but rather for return of investment, academic excellence and career advancement. Therefore generic statements of girls committing to D1 programs that are ranked below 30 must not be able to run with the "big boys" is ignorant. Not being politically correct, nor am I a liberal freak, but rather someone who is laughing at your stupidity. My daughter will benefit from her opportunity to have an IVY league education for many years to come while you are still re-living your "glory days" through your children...who by the way is most likely watching the game, like you, from a bench!!!
Bravo!
Same poster saying Bravo! To their own post. Talk about stupidity.
So untrue. I write braco and did not write the first post!
So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!
The original post on the subject matter brought into question players ability who commit to teams that were ranked 30 and below. Simply stated (although you don't seem to be following) many athletes prefer to chose schools not just based on what they are ranked but rather for return of investment, academic excellence and career advancement. Therefore generic statements of girls committing to D1 programs that are ranked below 30 must not be able to run with the "big boys" is ignorant. Not being politically correct, nor am I a liberal freak, but rather someone who is laughing at your stupidity. My daughter will benefit from her opportunity to have an IVY league education for many years to come while you are still re-living your "glory days" through your children...who by the way is most likely watching the game, like you, from a bench!!!
Bravo!
Same poster saying Bravo! To their own post. Talk about stupidity.
So untrue. I write braco and did not write the first post!
Electronic tracking is so useful.
I'm so blaffed by some of the younger coaches in the game. The intensity and knowledge is there but when their team is losing or calls aren't going their way...silent or not positive and no in game adjustments. Throwing in the towel too soon. Some need to separate their "glory days" mentality and just be a positive coach...even when things aren't going their way. Good example...was at a game today and teams were close for majority of 1st half...coaches were fired up! Other team starts to pull away...crickets. 2nd half, team makes a comeback and gets draw to possibly tie game. No time out called...they had one..to refocus team or draw something up. I don't get it. Am I wrong??
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.
parents from every town cry over everything. They complain about coaches, complain about officials, complain about the other players on the team. They all think they are the be all end all when it comes to the sport their child plays.
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.
Too many kids in a youth program is a bad thing? Are you nuts? Many towns would kill for the turn out ESM gets.
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.
Too many kids in a youth program is a bad thing? Are you nuts? Many towns would kill for the turn out ESM gets.
Do the math. If the varsity team plays the solid 9th-12th graders, you only need 3-4 kids from each grade to complete the team, sprinkle in a few 7-8 graders pulled up from time to time then its seriously 3 kids per age group you need coming down the pipes to fill the starting positions. If you have 2-3 teams of girls in an age group you have 50-60 girls fighting for 3 or 4 positions. Kill for that? Careful what you wish for.
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.
ESM girls youth director has to go because she doesn't support the program, and mouths the varsity coaches, complains to the board that her daughter got pulled out and an 8th grader put in her spot, yet her child is a sophomore who takes the spot that a senior could be playing. She's a hypocrite with a capital H. Her child was brought up as an 8th grader but now all of a sudden she's against selective classification. It's sad and I know it happens in every town and franky it ruins it for the kids.
In the bigger districts this has always been the issue. My town has 27 girls on Varsity and had over 40 try out for JV. We have had D1 commits as Sophomores playing on JV. Girls that can play get cut every year. They work hard and try out again next year. Once they get on Varsity only 14-15 girls even play any meaningful minutes in the "big" games. Seventh & eighth graders never get pulled up because they are not needed period. An exceptional player will jump over JV and play Varsity maybe as a 9th grader. It is what it is....The best problem any district is for them to have a large youth program. Look at all of the soccer crazy parents. They all think their kid is going to be a star on Varsity when they are 10 years old. The reality is that 3 or 4 players from any grade are going to play meaningful Varsity minutes when the time comes in any sport except basketball.
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.
Too many kids in a youth program is a bad thing? Are you nuts? Many towns would kill for the turn out ESM gets.
Do the math. If the varsity team plays the solid 9th-12th graders, you only need 3-4 kids from each grade to complete the team, sprinkle in a few 7-8 graders pulled up from time to time then its seriously 3 kids per age group you need coming down the pipes to fill the starting positions. If you have 2-3 teams of girls in an age group you have 50-60 girls fighting for 3 or 4 positions. Kill for that? Careful what you wish for.
It seems to work at Garden City and Manhasett!
Lol. It's types like you that are tough anonymous guys but I guarantee wouldn't be so tough in person. I would take pleasure in smacking you down but I will handle it differently. Be careful who you tangle with. You might not like the outcome.
Keep wasting your time.
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.
Too many kids in a youth program is a bad thing? Are you nuts? Many towns would kill for the turn out ESM gets.
Do the math. If the varsity team plays the solid 9th-12th graders, you only need 3-4 kids from each grade to complete the team, sprinkle in a few 7-8 graders pulled up from time to time then its seriously 3 kids per age group you need coming down the pipes to fill the starting positions. If you have 2-3 teams of girls in an age group you have 50-60 girls fighting for 3 or 4 positions. Kill for that? Careful what you wish for.
It seems to work at Garden City and Manhasett!
big difference is Manhasset and GC parents aren't on here anonymously throwing players and coaches under the bus to the higher UPS.
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
coach needs to go. nothing to do with playing time. sorry mrs. h but the run is over
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.
That's one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen! The youth program is too big! Haha! That's hysterical!
Serious question. Why do certain coaches feel like they have the right to belittle and demean high school girls? Were they part of similar coaching when they were younger? It's one thing to yell at kids, but it's entirely different to rip them apart and verbally abuse them.
Everyone should watch the ESPN lacrosse documentary "The Lost Trophy" about the 1990 Syracuse Men's lacrosse team. It's amazing how many of the ex players all talk about their Coach Roy Simmons Jr. They all discuss how it was ok to make mistakes and to try new things. Look at the success they had back then.
You don't need to be a bully to coach young adults. That's actually just lazy coaching. If you really care about them as people, coach them - don't bully them.
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
coach needs to go. nothing to do with playing time. sorry mrs. h but the run is over
It's All about playing time but if it makes you feel better, okay. You're embarrassing yourself. The whole town, board and team knows who is leading the charge to remove the coach and you're all so transparent. The kids will be fine with or without the coach. But for a few unhappy ruin it for everyone else who loves her. Like I posted earlier it's not the first coach you've run out of this town because they didn't play who you wanted.It must kill you that people don't know who you are any more. Enjoy the next chapter of your life-we can handle it from here.
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ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
coach needs to go. nothing to do with playing time. sorry mrs. h but the run is over
It's All about playing time but if it makes you feel better, okay. You're embarrassing yourself. The whole town, board and team knows who is leading the charge to remove the coach and you're all so transparent. The kids will be fine with or without the coach. But for a few unhappy ruin it for everyone else who loves her. Like I posted earlier it's not the first coach you've run out of this town because they didn't play who you wanted.It must kill you that people don't know who you are any more. Enjoy the next chapter of your life-we can handle it from here.
nothing to do with playing time and you don't know who I am. she's a crazy abusive bully who's messing up girls heads who are stuck with her or have to quit. the kids will be better off without her. at least you didn't blame it on the youth program being too big
Anyone know how many teams make playoffs for girls division 1? I've heard 9, 11, 12. Section XI bracket shows 12 but some people say that's wrong. I don't see how you can have odd number of teams either. Can someone confirm for sure?
Never mind my question about how many teams make playoffs. I see the changed the section XI bracket, and it shows how you can do it with 11 teams.
ESM should have their own thread.
ESM should have their own thread.
ESM does have it's own thread.
Thank god for that. I'm tired of reading about them.
Lol. It's types like you that are tough anonymous guys but I guarantee wouldn't be so tough in person. I would take pleasure in smacking you down but I will handle it differently. Be careful who you tangle with. You might not like the outcome.
Keep wasting your time.
Seriously, who is acting like the internet tough guy, guarantee you would not smack someone down in person. You keep threatening to reveal people's identities who post anonymously on this site if you do not like what they say especially I the subject matter involves certain travel clubs but not others.
Lol. It's types like you that are tough anonymous guys but I guarantee wouldn't be so tough in person. I would take pleasure in smacking you down but I will handle it differently. Be careful who you tangle with. You might not like the outcome.
Keep wasting your time.
Seriously, who is acting like the internet tough guy, guarantee you would not smack someone down in person. You keep threatening to reveal people's identities who post anonymously on this site if you do not like what they say especially I the subject matter involves certain travel clubs but not others.
The subject in question involves some serious issues concerning a minor. Why is that so hard to understand? My reference to revealing the identity of the poster who insists over and over on discussing this topic was to illustrate how that wouldn't be cool to do either.
Do yourself a favor and stop looking into it. I have no club affiliation.
I will keep this kids privacy at the fore front however. And you should too.
Lol. It's types like you that are tough anonymous guys but I guarantee wouldn't be so tough in person. I would take pleasure in smacking you down but I will handle it differently. Be careful who you tangle with. You might not like the outcome.
Keep wasting your time.
Seriously, who is acting like the internet tough guy, guarantee you would not smack someone down in person. You keep threatening to reveal people's identities who post anonymously on this site if you do not like what they say especially I the subject matter involves certain travel clubs but not others.
The subject in question involves some serious issues concerning a minor. Why is that so hard to understand? My reference to revealing the identity of the poster who insists over and over on discussing this topic was to illustrate how that wouldn't be cool to do either.
Do yourself a favor and stop looking into it. I have no club affiliation.
I will keep this kids privacy at the fore front however. And you should too.
The only serious issue in this discussion is the issue of hop's credibility, but you probably wont post this one either will you Hop
Lol. It's types like you that are tough anonymous guys but I guarantee wouldn't be so tough in person. I would take pleasure in smacking you down but I will handle it differently. Be careful who you tangle with. You might not like the outcome.
Keep wasting your time.
Seriously, who is acting like the internet tough guy, guarantee you would not smack someone down in person. You keep threatening to reveal people's identities who post anonymously on this site if you do not like what they say especially I the subject matter involves certain travel clubs but not others.
The subject in question involves some serious issues concerning a minor. Why is that so hard to understand? My reference to revealing the identity of the poster who insists over and over on discussing this topic was to illustrate how that wouldn't be cool to do either.
Do yourself a favor and stop looking into it. I have no club affiliation.
I will keep this kids privacy at the fore front however. And you should too.
Again I am not looking into it at all, I know and like many Elevate people and they seem happy with their club. My point was you seem to have different rules for different people, maybe the poster you threatened to expose was a minor. Not the first time you have threatened to expose an anonymous poster , now threatening to smack them down in person makes you look somewhat unstable or as you would say an anonymous internet tough guy. Its a very entertaining website but seems to me you are amping up the level of hostility .
Lol. It's types like you that are tough anonymous guys but I guarantee wouldn't be so tough in person. I would take pleasure in smacking you down but I will handle it differently. Be careful who you tangle with. You might not like the outcome.
Keep wasting your time.
Seriously, who is acting like the internet tough guy, guarantee you would not smack someone down in person. You keep threatening to reveal people's identities who post anonymously on this site if you do not like what they say especially I the subject matter involves certain travel clubs but not others.
The subject in question involves some serious issues concerning a minor. Why is that so hard to understand? My reference to revealing the identity of the poster who insists over and over on discussing this topic was to illustrate how that wouldn't be cool to do either.
Do yourself a favor and stop looking into it. I have no club affiliation.
I will keep this kids privacy at the fore front however. And you should too.
Again I am not looking into it at all, I know and like many Elevate people and they seem happy with their club. My point was you seem to have different rules for different people, maybe the poster you threatened to expose was a minor. Not the first time you have threatened to expose an anonymous poster , now threatening to smack them down in person makes you look somewhat unstable or as you would say an anonymous internet tough guy. Its a very entertaining website but seems to me you are amping up the level of hostility .
SmackDown is a term used to use words to put someone down. Unstable people look into what is said and twist and turn it to create drama. I am protecting the privacy of the young girl if you don't like that go elsewhere.
Lol. It's types like you that are tough anonymous guys but I guarantee wouldn't be so tough in person. I would take pleasure in smacking you down but I will handle it differently. Be careful who you tangle with. You might not like the outcome.
Keep wasting your time.
Seriously, who is acting like the internet tough guy, guarantee you would not smack someone down in person. You keep threatening to reveal people's identities who post anonymously on this site if you do not like what they say especially I the subject matter involves certain travel clubs but not others.
The subject in question involves some serious issues concerning a minor. Why is that so hard to understand? My reference to revealing the identity of the poster who insists over and over on discussing this topic was to illustrate how that wouldn't be cool to do either.
Do yourself a favor and stop looking into it. I have no club affiliation.
I will keep this kids privacy at the fore front however. And you should too.
The only serious issue in this discussion is the issue of hop's credibility, but you probably wont post this one either will you Hop
Several moderators approve or disapprove posts. Your posts where are your opinions are of no concern to me but I do know other moderators have had enough of your nonsense.
Does anyone know the date of the Suffolk County Girls Lacrosse Awards dinner this year and its location? Thank you..
SEC 11 Playoff picture
D 1
Middle Country 14-0-0 16-0-0 190.000
West Islip 11-2-0 12-3-0 162.310
Smithtown East 10-3-0 11-4-0 156.920
Northport 10-3-0 11-3-0 156.150
Smithtown West 10-3-0 11-3-0 148.660
Ward Melville 9-4-0 9-6-0 141.540
North Babylon 9-4-0 9-4-0 131.540
Commack HS 8-5-0 9-6-0 114.820
Sachem North 7-6-0 7-7-0 111.740
Sachem East 6-7-0 6-8-0 108.660
H H Hills 6-7-0 7-8-0 100.970
Outside looking in:
Connetquot 7-6-0 8-7-0 98.670
D 2
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.940
Sayville 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.220
Eastport/SManor 11-3-0 12-3-0 160.500
Huntington 9-4-0 10-4-0 145.890
West Babylon 8-6-0 8-8-0 125.130
Harborfields 9-5-0 10-5-0 120.380
Comsewogue 10-4-0 11-4-0 115.640
Rocky Point 6-8-0 6-8-0 111.930
Outside looking in:
Westhampton 6-7-0 6-8-0 111.070
D 3
Mt Sinai 14-0-0 15-1-0 194.080
Bayport-Blue Pt 11-3-0 12-3-0 159.420
Shoreham WR 7-6-0 8-6-0 119.650
Matt/Gpt/Shld 9-5-0 10-5-0 119.210
Babylon 7-7-0 8-7-0 104.930
Outside looking in:
Elwood/J Glenn 5-9-0 6-10-0 69.210
Nassau Class A:
#1 Seed - Syosset - plays winner of #4 Oceanside vs. #5 Port Washington
#2 Seed - Massapequa - plays winner of #3 Farmingdale vs. #6 Plainview JFK
Class B:
#1 Manhasset vs. #16 Bethpage
# 8 Calhoun vs. #9 McArthur
#4 North Shore vs. #13 Roslyn
#5 South Side vs. #12 Friends
#3 Wantagh vs. #14 Floral Park
#6 Long Beach vs. #11 Lynbrook
#2 Garden City vs. #15 Division
#7 Plainedge vs. #7 Hewlett
Class C:
#1 Cold Spring Harbor - plays winner of #4 Locust Valley vs. #5 Island Trees
#2 Oyster Bay - plays winner of #3 Seaford vs. #6 Carle Place
SEC 11 Playoff picture
D 1
Middle Country 14-0-0 16-0-0 190.000
West Islip 11-2-0 12-3-0 162.310
Smithtown East 10-3-0 11-4-0 156.920
Northport 10-3-0 11-3-0 156.150
Smithtown West 10-3-0 11-3-0 148.660
Ward Melville 9-4-0 9-6-0 141.540
North Babylon 9-4-0 9-4-0 131.540
Commack HS 8-5-0 9-6-0 114.820
Sachem North 7-6-0 7-7-0 111.740
Sachem East 6-7-0 6-8-0 108.660
H H Hills 6-7-0 7-8-0 100.970
Outside looking in:
Connetquot 7-6-0 8-7-0 98.670
D 2
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.940
Sayville 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.220
Eastport/SManor 11-3-0 12-3-0 160.500
Huntington 9-4-0 10-4-0 145.890
West Babylon 8-6-0 8-8-0 125.130
Harborfields 9-5-0 10-5-0 120.380
Comsewogue 10-4-0 11-4-0 115.640
Rocky Point 6-8-0 6-8-0 111.930
Outside looking in:
Westhampton 6-7-0 6-8-0 111.070
D 3
Mt Sinai 14-0-0 15-1-0 194.080
Bayport-Blue Pt 11-3-0 12-3-0 159.420
Shoreham WR 7-6-0 8-6-0 119.650
Matt/Gpt/Shld 9-5-0 10-5-0 119.210
Babylon 7-7-0 8-7-0 104.930
Outside looking in:
Elwood/J Glenn 5-9-0 6-10-0 69.210
Connetquot plays HHH tomorrow for the last spot
Nassau Class A:
#1 Seed - Syosset - plays winner of #4 Oceanside vs. #5 Port Washington
#2 Seed - Massapequa - plays winner of #3 Farmingdale vs. #6 Plainview JFK
Class B:
#1 Manhasset vs. #16 Bethpage
# 8 Calhoun vs. #9 McArthur
#4 North Shore vs. #13 Roslyn
#5 South Side vs. #12 Friends
#3 Wantagh vs. #14 Floral Park
#6 Long Beach vs. #11 Lynbrook
#2 Garden City vs. #15 Division
#7 Plainedge vs. #7 Hewlett
Class C:
#1 Cold Spring Harbor - plays winner of #4 Locust Valley vs. #5 Island Trees
#2 Oyster Bay - plays winner of #3 Seaford vs. #6 Carle Place
Saw the brackets Manhasset vs Wantagh or GC in final is probably about 90% certain
Hintington lost to westhamptonA
Hintington lost to westhamptonA
Hintington lost to westhamptonA
The wheels are coming off the bus!
Hintington lost to westhamptonA
Wow looked like a good game. I would have assumed Hton would take the W, but congrats to WH on stepping up to a very talented team - it seems like that program is definitely on the rise.
Was anyone there who could give some extra info on the game?
Poor coaching on Huntington, a few ball hogs .weshampton goalie was superior
Since Westhampton Beat Huntington, what does the playoff scenario look like?
Poor coaching on Huntington, a few ball hogs .weshampton goalie was superior
That's surprising to me, Huntington seems like they often have many assisted goals. Looks like their #1 player had 7 assists, obviously not one of the ball hogs I'm assuming. I've heard good things about the West Hampton goalie, good for her. How did the starting Huntington goalie play? Did the one going to UNC get in today?
Both goalies were outstanding. It was a exciting game back and forth to the end. Both teams battled the entire game and played with a lot of emotion. Westhampton scored the second overtime goal to tie with under a minute left. Westhampton scored on the second position in sudden death for the win.
It was a nice program win for Westhampton. A program that is no doubt on the rise. The participation numbers from K to 6th grade are strong on the youth levels. The program should be competitive in the years to come.
I wonder if that win is enough to get WH in the playoffs?
Poor coaching on Huntington, a few ball hogs .weshampton goalie was superior
That's surprising to me, Huntington seems like they often have many assisted goals. Looks like their #1 player had 7 assists, obviously not one of the ball hogs I'm assuming. I've heard good things about the West Hampton goalie, good for her. How did the starting Huntington goalie play? Did the one going to UNC get in today?
Okay I will take the bate, are you saying she has a number 1 on her jersey or she is their best player. She is a good player who is apparently an even better student which is great but not their best player.
Both goalies were outstanding. It was a exciting game back and forth to the end. Both teams battled the entire game and played with a lot of emotion. Westhampton scored the second overtime goal to tie with under a minute left. Westhampton scored on the second position in sudden death for the win.
It was a nice program win for Westhampton. A program that is no doubt on the rise. The participation numbers from K to 6th grade are strong on the youth levels. The program should be competitive in the years to come.
Maybe but they have underperformed this year , they have lost to several teams that they should not have and have gotten blown out by some teams that they should have been able to compete with. Still a nice win and they are better than their record which makes them dangerous in the playoffs.
Yes - they will be the 7th seed.
WH win yesterday really shook up the D2 playoff picture. I wonder if RP not playing any non league games hurt their power ranking?
D 2
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.940
Sayville 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.220
Eastport/SManor 11-3-0 12-3-0 160.500
Huntington 9-4-0 10-4-0 145.890
West Babylon 8-6-0 8-8-0 125.130
Harborfields 9-5-0 10-5-0 120.380
Westhampton 7-7-0 7-8-0 117.880
Comsewogue 10-4-0 11-4-0 115.640
Out of playoffs
Rocky Point 6-8-0 6-8-0 111.930
WH win yesterday really shook up the D2 playoff picture. I wonder if RP not playing any non league games hurt their power ranking?
D 2
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.940
Sayville 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.220
Eastport/SManor 11-3-0 12-3-0 160.500
Huntington 9-4-0 10-4-0 145.890
West Babylon 8-6-0 8-8-0 125.130
Harborfields 9-5-0 10-5-0 120.380
Westhampton 7-7-0 7-8-0 117.880
Comsewogue 10-4-0 11-4-0 115.640
Out of playoffs
Rocky Point 6-8-0 6-8-0 111.930
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Non league games have no bearing on the power rankings and therefore no bearing on the playoff picture.
Poor coaching on Huntington, a few ball hogs .weshampton goalie was superior
That's surprising to me, Huntington seems like they often have many assisted goals. Looks like their #1 player had 7 assists, obviously not one of the ball hogs I'm assuming. I've heard good things about the West Hampton goalie, good for her. How did the starting Huntington goalie play? Did the one going to UNC get in today?
Okay I will take the bate, are you saying she has a number 1 on her jersey or she is their best player. She is a good player who is apparently an even better student which is great but not their best player.
Not the best player? She had the most point in Suffolk County last year as a sophomore. She is absolutely their best player whether the coach realizes it or not.
Poor coaching on Huntington, a few ball hogs .weshampton goalie was superior
That's surprising to me, Huntington seems like they often have many assisted goals. Looks like their #1 player had 7 assists, obviously not one of the ball hogs I'm assuming. I've heard good things about the West Hampton goalie, good for her. How did the starting Huntington goalie play? Did the one going to UNC get in today?
Okay I will take the bate, are you saying she has a number 1 on her jersey or she is their best player. She is a good player who is apparently an even better student which is great but not their best player.
Not the best player? She had the most point in Suffolk County last year as a sophomore. She is absolutely their best player whether the coach realizes it or not.
The fact that you try to use points as your argument for her being the best player tells me you have no clue, with your logic she must have gotten a lot worse from last year as her points this year probably do not even put her in the top 30.Again not a knock on the kid ,good player going to great school with a very bright future but not the best player on her team. Sorry but there is a kid on that team who has been on team 1 school girls multiple times, along with another who is on team 1 this year, one of whom I believe made the under armor senior all American team.Blame your coach all you want but your best player is exceptional on both sides of the ball and on the draw, has been on team 1 school girls multiple time, under armor all American, plays for top YJ team which is one of the best teams in the age group in the country, just sayin.
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
coach needs to go. nothing to do with playing time. sorry mrs. h but the run is over
Couldn't agree more Mr L Mrs B Mrs D and the rest of you need a life leave these kids alone. Your stirring a pot you shouldn't. Your messing with the livelihood of a person who many respect. If you don't like her move on bc personally not too many like you!!
ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.
That's one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen! The youth program is too big! Haha! That's hysterical!
I am going to say this and generally I stay away from all this BS. ESM youth program was run far better when my daughter played and SE was in charge. She had no motives she kept the girls together during summer time, she put her blood sweat and tears into building the program. The last of those girls graduated last year and you can see with the few left from her years at the realm that with the exception of a few the youth program has gone down hill. But that is not the problem. The problem is the parents let your kid be just that a kid. Stop being up the coaches butt to get what you want only to turn your back and belittle her when you don't. In years past the selective classification process worked great and those kids were all very successful. Look at where most of not all the ESM lax graduates are and what they are doing from the passed 4 years all BT players. They are ALL still playing in college she did not deplete their love for the game...they are all still very happy and friendly with her. I have witnessed this first hand they look forward to visiting when they are home and texting her when needing advise. Is she tough yes..is that bad no!! It has made my daughter a stronger person knowing that she must work for everything she gets and earn it. Was my daughter a superstar in high school no!! BT has built a great program and the girls need to be accountable for their own actions maybe those parents whose kids are on the bench should go watch a practice you might be surprised that your child is not as strong or talented as the girl starting over her...maybe if you stopped complaining and saw this your child would work harder or ask coach what they need to do to get more time...and MR. L enough already your kids are done no one gives a crap what you have to say the reason no one wants to attend the alumni game has nothing to do with a bad taste in their mouth for the program...it's who is organising it!!! Sorry but the truth hurts
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ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.
That's one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen! The youth program is too big! Haha! That's hysterical!
I am going to say this and generally I stay away from all this BS. ESM youth program was run far better when my daughter played and SE was in charge. She had no motives she kept the girls together during summer time, she put her blood sweat and tears into building the program. The last of those girls graduated last year and you can see with the few left from her years at the realm that with the exception of a few the youth program has gone down hill. But that is not the problem. The problem is the parents let your kid be just that a kid. Stop being up the coaches butt to get what you want only to turn your back and belittle her when you don't. In years past the selective classification process worked great and those kids were all very successful. Look at where most of not all the ESM lax graduates are and what they are doing from the passed 4 years all BT players. They are ALL still playing in college she did not deplete their love for the game...they are all still very happy and friendly with her. I have witnessed this first hand they look forward to visiting when they are home and texting her when needing advise. Is she tough yes..is that bad no!! It has made my daughter a stronger person knowing that she must work for everything she gets and earn it. Was my daughter a superstar in high school no!! BT has built a great program and the girls need to be accountable for their own actions maybe those parents whose kids are on the bench should go watch a practice you might be surprised that your child is not as strong or talented as the girl starting over her...maybe if you stopped complaining and saw this your child would work harder or ask coach what they need to do to get more time...and MR. L enough already your kids are done no one gives a crap what you have to say the reason no one wants to attend the alumni game has nothing to do with a bad taste in their mouth for the program...it's who is organising it!!! Sorry but the truth hurts
What you're saying about ALL the girls who played for her is absolutely false. You're part of the problem. Has nothing to do with the bench or playing time. She'll do well as a college coach, and definitely knows how to win games, but she shouldn't be treating young high school girls the way she does.
Both girls are great players and play very differently. They complement one another and the team is lucky to have them. That said, it is a team, and one player, no matter how many accolades she has on her resume, does not make a team. All of the girls on the team try their best and all of the girls on the team make plenty of mistakes. When you watch teams like Manhassett or Garden City play, you can hardly pick out one player from the next because they play as a unit. This can never happen when the coach devotes all of her attention to one player. Not taking anything away from that one player- she is great- but unless all of the strengths on the team are utilized, Huntington will never really be able to compete.
Wonder if the coach would have put more enthusiasm in program maybe they would be in the playoffs?? basic doesn't cut it and the proof is in the final results.
quote=Anonymous]WH win yesterday really shook up the D2 playoff picture. I wonder if RP not playing any non league games hurt their power ranking?
D 2
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.940
Sayville 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.220
Eastport/SManor 11-3-0 12-3-0 160.500
Huntington 9-4-0 10-4-0 145.890
West Babylon 8-6-0 8-8-0 125.130
Harborfields 9-5-0 10-5-0 120.380
Westhampton 7-7-0 7-8-0 117.880
Comsewogue 10-4-0 11-4-0 115.640
Out of playoffs
Rocky Point 6-8-0 6-8-0 111.930 [/quote]
Will it be a problem for KW at Huntington if she brings her daughter up as an 8th grader on varsity next year? Don't other sports utilize this advantage as well? Why doesn't the administration address this so it is not an issue? I am commenting on an earlier post saying that lots of girls are leaving Huntington lacrosse next year due to younger players.
Wonder if the coach would have put more enthusiasm in program maybe they would be in the playoffs?? basic doesn't cut it and the proof is in the final results.
quote=Anonymous]WH win yesterday really shook up the D2 playoff picture. I wonder if RP not playing any non league games hurt their power ranking?
D 2
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.940
Sayville 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.220
Eastport/SManor 11-3-0 12-3-0 160.500
Huntington 9-4-0 10-4-0 145.890
West Babylon 8-6-0 8-8-0 125.130
Harborfields 9-5-0 10-5-0 120.380
Westhampton 7-7-0 7-8-0 117.880
Comsewogue 10-4-0 11-4-0 115.640
Out of playoffs
Rocky Point 6-8-0 6-8-0 111.930
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Here are my predictions
Haup easy ESM easy Hunt in a close one and Sayville got a nasty draw for being a #2 seed but they should win. I could be wrong but ESM did themselves a favor by having a 3 seed as opposed to a 2 seed
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ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated
Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.
That's one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen! The youth program is too big! Haha! That's hysterical!
I am going to say this and generally I stay away from all this BS. ESM youth program was run far better when my daughter played and SE was in charge. She had no motives she kept the girls together during summer time, she put her blood sweat and tears into building the program. The last of those girls graduated last year and you can see with the few left from her years at the realm that with the exception of a few the youth program has gone down hill. But that is not the problem. The problem is the parents let your kid be just that a kid. Stop being up the coaches butt to get what you want only to turn your back and belittle her when you don't. In years past the selective classification process worked great and those kids were all very successful. Look at where most of not all the ESM lax graduates are and what they are doing from the passed 4 years all BT players. They are ALL still playing in college she did not deplete their love for the game...they are all still very happy and friendly with her. I have witnessed this first hand they look forward to visiting when they are home and texting her when needing advise. Is she tough yes..is that bad no!! It has made my daughter a stronger person knowing that she must work for everything she gets and earn it. Was my daughter a superstar in high school no!! BT has built a great program and the girls need to be accountable for their own actions maybe those parents whose kids are on the bench should go watch a practice you might be surprised that your child is not as strong or talented as the girl starting over her...maybe if you stopped complaining and saw this your child would work harder or ask coach what they need to do to get more time...and MR. L enough already your kids are done no one gives a crap what you have to say the reason no one wants to attend the alumni game has nothing to do with a bad taste in their mouth for the program...it's who is organising it!!! Sorry but the truth hurts
What you're saying about ALL the girls who played for her is absolutely false. You're part of the problem. Has nothing to do with the bench or playing time. She'll do well as a college coach, and definitely knows how to win games, but she shouldn't be treating young high school girls the way she does.
Except for a few-and let's be honest-no coach is loved by every player-MOST who played for her have continued on. It seems it's either your way or no way and if people don't agree then they're part of the problem? It's a discussion with different views. And someone else wrote it already, what kind of parents would allow their children to be treated so horrendously? Your argument and accusations are starting to lose clarity and reasonableness. By criticizing the coach for her behavior you insult the parents of these children. I suspect even your own if this is what you are running with. The personal vendetta you have is becoming clearer by the minute.
Will it be a problem for KW at Huntington if she brings her daughter up as an 8th grader on varsity next year? Don't other sports utilize this advantage as well? Why doesn't the administration address this so it is not an issue? I am commenting on an earlier post saying that lots of girls are leaving Huntington lacrosse next year due to younger players.
Yes. It will be a problem. It was a problem when her other daughter was on her field hockey/lacrosse teams. There were several incidents that went on regarding in appropriate behavior by KW towards girls who were not necessarily her daughters friends. The school was notified I believe. My daughter was on the teams at this time and luckily was not singled out, but she was very disturbed by some of the things KW did to a few of her players. I think parent coaches are a hit or miss - some are fantastic and others abuse their power to get their kid ahead. Because of this possibility, I don't think parent coaches should ever be allowed to coach HS teams in order to avoid conflict and practice neutrality.
Wonder if the coach would have put more enthusiasm in program maybe they would be in the playoffs?? basic doesn't cut it and the proof is in the final results.
quote=Anonymous]WH win yesterday really shook up the D2 playoff picture. I wonder if RP not playing any non league games hurt their power ranking?
D 2
Hauppauge 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.940
Sayville 11-3-0 12-4-0 161.220
Eastport/SManor 11-3-0 12-3-0 160.500
Huntington 9-4-0 10-4-0 145.890
West Babylon 8-6-0 8-8-0 125.130
Harborfields 9-5-0 10-5-0 120.380
Westhampton 7-7-0 7-8-0 117.880
Comsewogue 10-4-0 11-4-0 115.640
Out of playoffs
Rocky Point 6-8-0 6-8-0 111.930
Here are my predictions
Haup easy ESM easy Hunt in a close one and Sayville got a nasty draw for being a #2 seed but they should win. I could be wrong but ESM did themselves a favor by having a 3 seed as opposed to a 2 seed[/quote]
Great rematch for Huntington-West Babylon. 16-15 the last time they met.
GREAT GAME BY ALL WHO PLAYED !!!! Refs suspect at best !! WHO CALLS A 3 second violation with 29 seconds left ?? Want to know ? Its a ref 1) never played a competitive sport in his life -- 2) thinks he is bigger then the girls game --- 3) this is his 15 min of ref fame !!
GREAT GAME BY ALL WHO PLAYED !!!! Refs suspect at best !! WHO CALLS A 3 second violation with 29 seconds left ?? Want to know ? Its a ref 1) never played a competitive sport in his life -- 2) thinks he is bigger then the girls game --- 3) this is his 15 min of ref fame !!
What game are you talking about?
Shake up in Nassau as the very young MacArthur team got by Calhoun today. Both teams playes extremely well until yellows started being given th Calhoun for stick to heads. Girls played right up until the ladt minute despite a MacArthur loudmouth dad yelling "go to the goal Tara" the entire game, amongst other rude and insulting comments. Good luck against the mighty 'Sett gang, they play quick and have a great transitional game. Have they ever lost to a lower seed? Just curiuos
Shake up in Nassau as the very young MacArthur team got by Calhoun today. Both teams playes extremely well until yellows started being given th Calhoun for stick to heads. Girls played right up until the ladt minute despite a MacArthur loudmouth dad yelling "go to the goal Tara" the entire game, amongst other rude and insulting comments. Good luck against the mighty 'Sett gang, they play quick and have a great transitional game. Have they ever lost to a lower seed? Just curiuos
Congrats to the MacArthur girls for moving on. However I would not consider the 9th seed beating the 8th seed a Shake up.
Shake up in Nassau as the very young MacArthur team got by Calhoun today. Both teams playes extremely well until yellows started being given th Calhoun for stick to heads. Girls played right up until the ladt minute despite a MacArthur loudmouth dad yelling "go to the goal Tara" the entire game, amongst other rude and insulting comments. Good luck against the mighty 'Sett gang, they play quick and have a great transitional game. Have they ever lost to a lower seed? Just curiuos
Maybe to MacArthur it is a shake up? I know nothing about Nassau rivalry's or what type of program MacArthur is but it has to be a big win for them. Congratulations!
Congrats to the MacArthur girls for moving on. However I would not consider the 9th seed beating the 8th seed a Shake up.
Poor coaching on Huntington, a few ball hogs .weshampton goalie was superior
That's surprising to me, Huntington seems like they often have many assisted goals. Looks like their #1 player had 7 assists, obviously not one of the ball hogs I'm assuming. I've heard good things about the West Hampton goalie, good for her. How did the starting Huntington goalie play? Did the one going to UNC get in today?
Okay I will take the bate, are you saying she has a number 1 on her jersey or she is their best player. She is a good player who is apparently an even better student which is great but not their best player.
Not the best player? She had the most point in Suffolk County last year as a sophomore. She is absolutely their best player whether the coach realizes it or not.
The fact that you try to use points as your argument for her being the best player tells me you have no clue, with your logic she must have gotten a lot worse from last year as her points this year probably do not even put her in the top 30.Again not a knock on the kid ,good player going to great school with a very bright future but not the best player on her team. Sorry but there is a kid on that team who has been on team 1 school girls multiple times, along with another who is on team 1 this year, one of whom I believe made the under armor senior all American team.Blame your coach all you want but your best player is exceptional on both sides of the ball and on the draw, has been on team 1 school girls multiple time, under armor all American, plays for top YJ team which is one of the best teams in the age group in the country, just sayin.
There were no "ball hogs" on the field. It was a tight game for all of the second half and all of the goals scored were absolutely necessary. Maybe the girls who scored, because the team needed every one of those points, are the only girls who can put it in the goal consistently.
not sure what youre point is about blaming the coach and who the best player on the team is.This is not tennis or golf it is a team sport. Points are down for all the girls and it would not be entirely unfair for the coaching to take some of the blame. And finally you mention what a great honor and confirmation of talent it is to be selected for school girls team one are you suggesting the unc bound goalie who justt made that team should get more playing time?
Although individual achievement should be commended, when you look at the point leaders from Nassau County schools like Island Trees, Wheatly, Plainede, Hicksville, Lynbrook, Division, Clarke and Macarthur none of these teams are expected to do anything in the playoffs. These towns need to do a better job of developing more players and bigger benches. Why can't these other towns grow their programs?
You have to go all the way down to around 15 to start finding players from Manhasset and Wantagh
LB girls season done on Thursday
LB is a solid program with a lot of good young players...I would not count them out
Although individual achievement should be commended, when you look at the point leaders from Nassau County schools like Island Trees, Wheatly, Plainede, Hicksville, Lynbrook, Division, Clarke and Macarthur none of these teams are expected to do anything in the playoffs. These towns need to do a better job of developing more players and bigger benches. Why can't these other towns grow their programs?
You have to go all the way down to around 15 to start finding players from Manhasset and Wantagh
In the opening round of the class B playoffs - the top seeded teams outscored their opponents 64 -12. One of the lower seeded teams scored 8 goals in their game but sill lost by 9. Just goes to show how stats can be misleading.
The MSG varsity guys put Island Trees into the Top 20 last week for the NY Metro. They are not top 20 on LI. I have friends on that team. Last year they won 4 games, and were moved to a lower division as better team were moved up. Now they are undefeated at 14-0. They have 9 wins against teams with less than .500 record (combined 29 wins and 64 losses for their opponents). Yet the guys on MSG who put the poll together and call themselves experts rank this team in the top 20. If they played just the Conf 1 Teams where the majority are not even ranked, they would lose 90% of their games.
Just trying to keep things in perspective. In suffolk you have similar situation if not worse. Good teams will play 3-4 "tough" games and then have 10-12 blowouts because they don't use the "power conference" like Nassau does.
It's odd to me that parents on this thread seem to know so much about children,that are not their own achievements. Am
How does the poster above this no so much about what accomplishments individual
Players have made? Also why continually slam the team players and coaching of a school that your child plays for? Who does that benefit?
There is a huge disparity in ability levels between the teams seeded 1-4 in Nassau and the rest of the group. A look at yesterday's scores supports this. Thursday's games will probably be similar too. My daughter plays on the one the top teams, and while she gets playing time, she's not a starter. What's a better scenario? To be a role player on a top team or be a top player on a team like Long Beach, Plainedge, Island Trees, etc.?
Against Wantagh, are you serious . At least by 8 goals
not sure what youre point is about blaming the coach and who the best player on the team is.This is not tennis or golf it is a team sport. Points are down for all the girls and it would not be entirely unfair for the coaching to take some of the blame. And finally you mention what a great honor and confirmation of talent it is to be selected for school girls team one are you suggesting the unc bound goalie who justt made that team should get more playing time?
Not sure if the UNC goalie should get more playing time in the tight game,I was really responding to the poster who could not resist calling his little darling the #1 player on the team. UNC goalie made team 1 this year but no team last year when the starting goalie made team 2 last year I think. So in a head to head tryout maybe the coach has it right .Sorry but you have many kids on that team that are excellent players but comparing apples to apples , team 1 for several years on schoolgirls, top YJ team, Under armor senior all American etc vs none of those things it just does not add up, but I know its all politics.
It's odd to me that parents on this thread seem to know so much about children,that are not their own achievements. Am
How does the poster above this no so much about what accomplishments individual
Players have made? Also why continually slam the team players and coaching of a school that your child plays for? Who does that benefit?
It's called Newsday. They list stats and scores.
not sure what youre point is about blaming the coach and who the best player on the team is.This is not tennis or golf it is a team sport. Points are down for all the girls and it would not be entirely unfair for the coaching to take some of the blame. And finally you mention what a great honor and confirmation of talent it is to be selected for school girls team one are you suggesting the unc bound goalie who justt made that team should get more playing time?
Not sure if the UNC goalie should get more playing time in the tight game,I was really responding to the poster who could not resist calling his little darling the #1 player on the team. UNC goalie made team 1 this year but no team last year when the starting goalie made team 2 last year I think. So in a head to head tryout maybe the coach has it right .Sorry but you have many kids on that team that are excellent players but comparing apples to apples , team 1 for several years on schoolgirls, top YJ team, Under armor senior all American etc vs none of those things it just does not add up, but I know its all politics.
Under Armour Senior All American? When?
Do not know much about Huntington HS Girls lax, But what I do know is that their best player is the Mercy transfer who is a UA senior All American
not sure what youre point is about blaming the coach and who the best player on the team is.This is not tennis or golf it is a team sport. Points are down for all the girls and it would not be entirely unfair for the coaching to take some of the blame. And finally you mention what a great honor and confirmation of talent it is to be selected for school girls team one are you suggesting the unc bound goalie who justt made that team should get more playing time?
Not sure if the UNC goalie should get more playing time in the tight game,I was really responding to the poster who could not resist calling his little darling the #1 player on the team. UNC goalie made team 1 this year but no team last year when the starting goalie made team 2 last year I think. So in a head to head tryout maybe the coach has it right .Sorry but you have many kids on that team that are excellent players but comparing apples to apples , team 1 for several years on schoolgirls, top YJ team, Under armor senior all American etc vs none of those things it just does not add up, but I know its all politics.
I am so glad you finished your post with the best thing you have said so far - "it's all politics." You could not be more right about that. However, times they are a changing. LIMLF now limits the number of club coaches for the school girls tryouts because of so many complaints about the politics and YJ controlling the process. No YJ coaches this year for Under Armour tryouts - coaches are Gallagher (Manhasset), Ferraro (St. Anthony's) and Levy (East Islip). The more politics can be taken out of things like this the better for all of the kids. Now we need to get the two MSG guys out of their love affair with the YJ's and we will be almost fair across the board.
Do not know much about Huntington HS Girls lax, But what I do know is that their best player is the Mercy transfer who is a UA senior All American
If by best player you mean player who rarely passes and always feels she should go to the goal and charge, then yes she is.
If youth coaches forced kids to pass starting in Kindergarten instead of going for the win, you would have more players in HS playing and many would have some decent talent
If youth coaches forced kids to pass starting in Kindergarten instead of going for the win, you would have more players in HS playing and many would have some decent talent
Amen. There is a jackass father on my daughter's PAL team screaming at her to try and score every time she gets the ball. Doesn't root or cheer for any of the other girls. I'd like to punch him in his face.
If youth coaches forced kids to pass starting in Kindergarten instead of going for the win, you would have more players in HS playing and many would have some decent talent
Amen. There is a jackass father on my daughter's PAL team screaming at her to try and score every time she gets the ball. Doesn't root or cheer for any of the other girls. I'd like to punch him in his face.
Must want his daughter to be a 100 point getter in HS. If that's all you are interested in you have to start early. In lacrosse its never about the team its only about points and getting recruited.
not sure what youre point is about blaming the coach and who the best player on the team is.This is not tennis or golf it is a team sport. Points are down for all the girls and it would not be entirely unfair for the coaching to take some of the blame. And finally you mention what a great honor and confirmation of talent it is to be selected for school girls team one are you suggesting the unc bound goalie who justt made that team should get more playing time?
Not sure if the UNC goalie should get more playing time in the tight game,I was really responding to the poster who could not resist calling his little darling the #1 player on the team. UNC goalie made team 1 this year but no team last year when the starting goalie made team 2 last year I think. So in a head to head tryout maybe the coach has it right .Sorry but you have many kids on that team that are excellent players but comparing apples to apples , team 1 for several years on schoolgirls, top YJ team, Under armor senior all American etc vs none of those things it just does not add up, but I know its all politics.
I am so glad you finished your post with the best thing you have said so far - "it's all politics." You could not be more right about that. However, times they are a changing. LIMLF now limits the number of club coaches for the school girls tryouts because of so many complaints about the politics and YJ controlling the process. No YJ coaches this year for Under Armour tryouts - coaches are Gallagher (Manhasset), Ferraro (St. Anthony's) and Levy (East Islip). The more politics can be taken out of things like this the better for all of the kids. Now we need to get the two MSG guys out of their love affair with the YJ's and we will be almost fair across the board.
Do you really think it matters. Will be just as much Politics
not sure what youre point is about blaming the coach and who the best player on the team is.This is not tennis or golf it is a team sport. Points are down for all the girls and it would not be entirely unfair for the coaching to take some of the blame. And finally you mention what a great honor and confirmation of talent it is to be selected for school girls team one are you suggesting the unc bound goalie who justt made that team should get more playing time?
Not sure if the UNC goalie should get more playing time in the tight game,I was really responding to the poster who could not resist calling his little darling the #1 player on the team. UNC goalie made team 1 this year but no team last year when the starting goalie made team 2 last year I think. So in a head to head tryout maybe the coach has it right .Sorry but you have many kids on that team that are excellent players but comparing apples to apples , team 1 for several years on schoolgirls, top YJ team, Under armor senior all American etc vs none of those things it just does not add up, but I know its all politics.
I am so glad you finished your post with the best thing you have said so far - "it's all politics." You could not be more right about that. However, times they are a changing. LIMLF now limits the number of club coaches for the school girls tryouts because of so many complaints about the politics and YJ controlling the process. No YJ coaches this year for Under Armour tryouts - coaches are Gallagher (Manhasset), Ferraro (St. Anthony's) and Levy (East Islip). The more politics can be taken out of things like this the better for all of the kids. Now we need to get the two MSG guys out of their love affair with the YJ's and we will be almost fair across the board.
Do you really think it matters. Will be just as much Politics
I would say just as much perceived politics. DG runs a travel program, has added several high school coaches to the mix and is looking more like TG and YJ everyday. SL jumped from TG and is running the girls side of Legacy.
Unc goalie never was allowed to try out before this year, the other goalie made it because HS coach picked her ! All politics - she will sit on the bench when she gets to college. Everyone knows that
Get off the topic of these two goalies and the one player. All from Huntington. Getting too personal and negative.
You are right HOP.. These people are awful!!! They are talking about children!!! Disgusting.
Get off the topic of these two goalies and the one player. All from Huntington. Getting too personal and negative.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Locust Valley beats Island Trees 12-10 in first round of Class C playoffs.
who makes it to finals Wantagh or garden city?
Crazy yes, but not impossible. SWR had a team a few years back that was so stacked with talent a JV player "who never played varsity" made it to a DI school.
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Where did you see that?
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
So she picked your Daughter
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Come on, lacrosse is all about selfish stat building which leads to early verbals. If you are trolling this site you probably have an athletic kid and are around other sports. Answer me this, what other sport do you hear about the constant scholarships and early committing? Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Football? Basketball? NONE OF THEM! they all get some scholarships but the only sport you ever hear about is Lacrosse and summer club teams are a major driver.
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Come on, lacrosse is all about selfish stat building which leads to early verbals. If you are trolling this site you probably have an athletic kid and are around other sports. Answer me this, what other sport do you hear about the constant scholarships and early committing? Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Football? Basketball? NONE OF THEM! they all get some scholarships but the only sport you ever hear about is Lacrosse and summer club teams are a major driver.
Soccer for sure, kids are committing in 9th grade now. The proliferation of "national" leagues such as ECNL on the girls side hadade this a real issue for soccer as well.
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Come on, lacrosse is all about selfish stat building which leads to early verbals. If you are trolling this site you probably have an athletic kid and are around other sports. Answer me this, what other sport do you hear about the constant scholarships and early committing? Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Football? Basketball? NONE OF THEM! they all get some scholarships but the only sport you ever hear about is Lacrosse and summer club teams are a major driver.
I'm not going to disagree with you in regards to the selfish stat building - that is rampant on LI and some of the coaches are also to blame for letting it go on.
However, I will disagree with you in regards to the scholarship issue you raise. The reason you hear about it more with lacrosse is because more kids from Long Island are using lacrosse as a tool to get into school than any other sport. The numbers don't lie - more kids are going to college to play lacrosse (boys and girls) than almost all of the other major sports combined.
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Come on, lacrosse is all about selfish stat building which leads to early verbals. If you are trolling this site you probably have an athletic kid and are around other sports. Answer me this, what other sport do you hear about the constant scholarships and early committing? Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Football? Basketball? NONE OF THEM! they all get some scholarships but the only sport you ever hear about is Lacrosse and summer club teams are a major driver.
I'm not going to disagree with you in regards to the selfish stat building - that is rampant on LI and some of the coaches are also to blame for letting it go on.
However, I will disagree with you in regards to the scholarship issue you raise. The reason you hear about it more with lacrosse is because more kids from Long Island are using lacrosse as a tool to get into school than any other sport. The numbers don't lie - more kids are going to college to play lacrosse (boys and girls) than almost all of the other major sports combined.
High School Lacrosse has nothing to do with recruiting therefore the “stat building” does not impact the early verbal commitments.
Why don’t you just come out and say it, “pas the ball to my daughter so she can score”.
The jealousy and bitterness on this sight and on the sidelines is incredible.
The animosity from the parents of the less athletic, less skilled, less aggressive less whatever players towards the stronger players is amazing.
Parents look to tear down any player who (has what their kid doesn’t) plays travel, scores the most goals, or gets recruited and commits early etc...
Do you lunatics ever listen to yourselves? The next time you hear that a 9th or 10th grade girl or boy commits to a great school/program keep your mouth shut and listen. The negative comments from the jealous parents are soon to follow. I have heard them many times and I’m sure you have as well.
If the ball hog is getting recruited by Maryland, North Carolina and Northwestern I would say that she is probably an excellent player.
If you want know where your daughter stands in relation to her peers across the country take a close look at the colleges that have reached out and have actively recruited and made an offer to your daughter. You can’t judge a player based on high school lacrosse. Unfortunately, HS Lax is not competitive and the coaching is weak. The recruiting process will usually tell the story.
If some of the Top 5 programs in the country are recruiting her then your daughter is in a very small group of exceptional players.
If some of the Top 10 programs are actively recruiting your daughter then she is no doubt an exceptional player.
If some of the Top 20 programs are recruiting her she must be really good as well.
If you have contacted schools and found your daughter a good school that is a good fit and the coach is willing to give her a chance then I’m sure she is a good player.
Since I know some of you have difficulty with reading comprehension let me point out that I did not say:
“The best players only go to the Top 20 Programs”
Many great players go to schools that are not considered Top 20 Programs. My point is that those programs do not miss identifying the best talent very often.
Not all players who are recruited by the best programs choose to go to one of those schools.
Sorry guys, just very tired of all of the hate and bitterness directed at some of the kids.
I agree some really good players go to schools outside of the top 20 and many even go to a lower division but I say after you have your 10 goals how about a pass? Just because other kids don't play for the same travel outfit or play travel at all doesn't preclude them from being a good player.
You think all these three sport athletes play outside travel for all of them during HS? Soccer or Volleyball then travel Basketball then travel softball or lacrosse? I don't think so. Most focus on their #1 sport and then just play the others at a high level in HS. Why is it all the other sports seem to have no problem playing as a team like lacrosse does?
Did you ever think that some kids want to college for an education and play lax because they love the game. Who cares if the school is in the top 20/30.. What are they going to with a stick when they graduate? Take it to work with them!
Did you ever think that some kids want to college for an education and play lax because they love the game. Who cares if the school is in the top 20/30.. What are they going to with a stick when they graduate? Take it to work with them!
Final 8 teams:
Princeton
Duke
Northwestern
North Carolina
Penn State
Loyola
Maryland
Syracuse
I think the girls who go to these schools might also love lacrosse. Oh yeah I think the education is OK too.
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Come on, lacrosse is all about selfish stat building which leads to early verbals. If you are trolling this site you probably have an athletic kid and are around other sports. Answer me this, what other sport do you hear about the constant scholarships and early committing? Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Football? Basketball? NONE OF THEM! they all get some scholarships but the only sport you ever hear about is Lacrosse and summer club teams are a major driver.
I'm not going to disagree with you in regards to the selfish stat building - that is rampant on LI and some of the coaches are also to blame for letting it go on.
However, I will disagree with you in regards to the scholarship issue you raise. The reason you hear about it more with lacrosse is because more kids from Long Island are using lacrosse as a tool to get into school than any other sport. The numbers don't lie - more kids are going to college to play lacrosse (boys and girls) than almost all of the other major sports combined.
High School Lacrosse has nothing to do with recruiting therefore the “stat building” does not impact the early verbal commitments.
Why don’t you just come out and say it, “pas the ball to my daughter so she can score”.
The jealousy and bitterness on this sight and on the sidelines is incredible.
The animosity from the parents of the less athletic, less skilled, less aggressive less whatever players towards the stronger players is amazing.
Parents look to tear down any player who (has what their kid doesn’t) plays travel, scores the most goals, or gets recruited and commits early etc...
Do you lunatics ever listen to yourselves? The next time you hear that a 9th or 10th grade girl or boy commits to a great school/program keep your mouth shut and listen. The negative comments from the jealous parents are soon to follow. I have heard them many times and I’m sure you have as well.
If the ball hog is getting recruited by Maryland, North Carolina and Northwestern I would say that she is probably an excellent player.
If you want know where your daughter stands in relation to her peers across the country take a close look at the colleges that have reached out and have actively recruited and made an offer to your daughter. You can’t judge a player based on high school lacrosse. Unfortunately, HS Lax is not competitive and the coaching is weak. The recruiting process will usually tell the story.
If some of the Top 5 programs in the country are recruiting her then your daughter is in a very small group of exceptional players.
If some of the Top 10 programs are actively recruiting your daughter then she is no doubt an exceptional player.
If some of the Top 20 programs are recruiting her she must be really good as well.
If you have contacted schools and found your daughter a good school that is a good fit and the coach is willing to give her a chance then I’m sure she is a good player.
Since I know some of you have difficulty with reading comprehension let me point out that I did not say:
“The best players only go to the Top 20 Programs”
Many great players go to schools that are not considered Top 20 Programs. My point is that those programs do not miss identifying the best talent very often.
Not all players who are recruited by the best programs choose to go to one of those schools.
Sorry guys, just very tired of all of the hate and bitterness directed at some of the kids.
GREAT post!!!
Plenty of complaints about they weak play in Suffolk but I just saw a 3-12 team was a 5th seed in Nassau. 0-10 in conference. Outside of Manhasset, GC and Wantagh, Nassau is just as weak as Suffolk.
Suffolk is extremely weak. Yea Mt. Sinai and Middle Country had good records, but are really not overly impressive. No one is. Anyone can win on any given night. The all star players from the teams aren't even that good this year. I guess Long Island Lacrosse is not like it used to be.
Suffolk is extremely weak. Yea Mt. Sinai and Middle Country had good records, but are really not overly impressive. No one is. Anyone can win on any given night. The all star players from the teams aren't even that good this year. I guess Long Island Lacrosse is not like it used to be.
How are the star players not good this year? Those 2 teams have 1 loss between them. You people are funny. If the "stars" go to goal and build their stats they are not that good because the are just stat builders. If they play team ball, great defense and get their team mates involved, but their stats aren't as good, you say they aren't that good this year. Which is it??? Maybe u just like to be negative and never give anyone credit? Pathetic!
Suffolk is extremely weak. Yea Mt. Sinai and Middle Country had good records, but are really not overly impressive. No one is. Anyone can win on any given night. The all star players from the teams aren't even that good this year. I guess Long Island Lacrosse is not like it used to be.
Aren't you a Debbie Downer? Suffolk girls look great, don't know who you were watching.
Put a face on it........DII friday
Hauppauge over Comsowque by 15
Huntington over WB by 6
ESM over Harborfields by 8
Sayville over WH by 8
Matt over Babylon by 6
Tomorrow is my daughters first playoff game and I am beyond excited for her!!!!!she does not see much of the field but she is fired up to be on this team and experience this game.
agree on the winners but the Say and Hunt game will be closer and ESM will win by more than 10 as Harborfields had a weak schedule.
Com did not have a win against a playoff team so their game could be ugly.
Comsewogue - give them credit they made the playoffs
Wantagh vs Garden City will happen. Manhasset getting the #1 seed was big so they have a clear path to the finals. All three won easily. Great teams. All three have a shot.
Comsewogue - give them credit they made the playoffs
They deserve credit for making playoffs!!! Congrats and good luck! Good luck to all the girls playing today!
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Come on, lacrosse is all about selfish stat building which leads to early verbals. If you are trolling this site you probably have an athletic kid and are around other sports. Answer me this, what other sport do you hear about the constant scholarships and early committing? Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Football? Basketball? NONE OF THEM! they all get some scholarships but the only sport you ever hear about is Lacrosse and summer club teams are a major driver.
Just ask the Smithtown East Mom who calls the sidelines/scorers table during the game to ensure her little star is getting "credit" for her goals/assists. What a joke...Smithtown East loony's may have surpassed Mt. Insane O
FYI coach doesn't pick her own kids, the coaches from the teams the play during the season.
Fyi absolutely not. Each coach is given a number of awards and which awards. For example. 2 all county, 1 all class etc... Then the coach puts in which girls she wants and all other coaches approve (which is just a formality). The better your record or higher your seed the more awards your team gets. As a highschool coach im absolutely positive.
First Suffolk Class B result in. WB over Hunt 14-12 with the 2 WB studettes scoring 7 goals each
The wheels came off the bus in Huntington . Better start a new thread .
Cannot believe what I witnessed today at the Huntington game. Absolutely pathetic coaching. Thank god that this season from [lacrosse] is over.
Time for a new coach/coaches in Huntington! They do not have a clue!
First Suffolk Class B result in. WB over Hunt 14-12 with the 2 WB studettes scoring 7 goals each
How does Huntington lose to a team with two players?
First Suffolk Class B result in. WB over Hunt 14-12 with the 2 WB studettes scoring 7 goals each
How does Huntington lose to a team with two players?
Good question
First Suffolk Class B result in. WB over Hunt 14-12 with the 2 WB studettes scoring 7 goals each
How does Huntington lose to a team with two players?
Very simple. Those two are better than anything Huntington had.
KW put the UNC goalie in for 45 seconds, she let one goal in, and then took her out immediately. Other goalie played great in the first half but made 0 saves in the second. Did not understand this coaching decision at all. Not fair to either goalie! Why even put the second-line girl in at all? That is just demeaning to both of the girls. Very unfair.
This, along with letting TWO girls score EVERY GOAL is absolutely pathetic.
Is she TRYING to lose?????????
You go out there and try and stop the sam's. Good luck
Senior on west babylon is the best player in the country. Girl is carrying that team on her back all year
First off, congrats to Mattituck on their first playoff win in C in a 4/5 game vs Bab and next up...Mount Sinai!
B semis are set with Haup vs WB. They played a close game in the reg season where Haup won by 2...lets see if Haup shuts down the WB girls. The other semi is a rematch of last years B final with ESM vs Say. Say quietly gets the job done w/o the EMS controversy; should be a good game...really good games!!!
Huntington Girls Varsity Lacrosse has it's own thread. Direct any posts concerning that topic to that thread.
Senior on west babylon is the best player in the country. Girl is carrying that team on her back all year
Truth.
First Suffolk Class B result in. WB over Hunt 14-12 with the 2 WB studettes scoring 7 goals each
How does Huntington lose to a team with two players?
Very simple. Those two are better than anything Huntington had.
That's right. All of WB's wins were due to that same simple fact!
First Suffolk Class B result in. WB over Hunt 14-12 with the 2 WB studettes scoring 7 goals each
How does Huntington lose to a team with two players?
Good question
Go look at the Newsday stats. The 2 WB girls had EVERY goal and EVERY assist. Not one other offensive player with a goal or assist. No attempt to shut either of them off and make the 5 other offensive players beat you.
First Suffolk Class B result in. WB over Hunt 14-12 with the 2 WB studettes scoring 7 goals each
How does Huntington lose to a team with two players?
Good question
Go look at the Newsday stats. The 2 WB girls had EVERY goal and EVERY assist. Not one other offensive player with a goal or assist. No attempt to shut either of them off and make the 5 other offensive players beat you.
Double and triple teams on the senior didn't work. The junior scored. Once Huntington went to man to man it was worse. One girl can't cover the senior. Other 5 girls are all 8th and 9th graders and are solid players. Offense is run around the big two.
First Suffolk Class B result in. WB over Hunt 14-12 with the 2 WB studettes scoring 7 goals each
How does Huntington lose to a team with two players?
Good question
Go look at the Newsday stats. The 2 WB girls had EVERY goal and EVERY assist. Not one other offensive player with a goal or assist. No attempt to shut either of them off and make the 5 other offensive players beat you.
Double and triple teams on the senior didn't work. The junior scored. Once Huntington went to man to man it was worse. One girl can't cover the senior. Other 5 girls are all 8th and 9th graders and are solid players. Offense is run around the big two.
"solid players" is a bit of a stretch, they looked very overwhelmed when the had to participate in the game. That being said the previous poster is correct when stating that those were the players that you had to make beat you, not the big two
Why not put two players on the senior and one on the junior. Then let the rest of your team play the game.. Outcome would of been vastly different.
Why not put two players on the senior and one on the junior. Then let the rest of your team play the game.. Outcome would of been vastly different.
Sound like the Huntington coach was out coached.
Why not put two players on the senior and one on the junior. Then let the rest of your team play the game.. Outcome would of been vastly different.
Sound like the Huntington coach was out coached.
Out coached is a recurring theme for Huntington and no one is surprised
Take the Huntington talk to your own thread. You have your own.
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Come on, lacrosse is all about selfish stat building which leads to early verbals. If you are trolling this site you probably have an athletic kid and are around other sports. Answer me this, what other sport do you hear about the constant scholarships and early committing? Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Football? Basketball? NONE OF THEM! they all get some scholarships but the only sport you ever hear about is Lacrosse and summer club teams are a major driver.
Just ask the Smithtown East Mom who calls the sidelines/scorers table during the game to ensure her little star is getting "credit" for her goals/assists. What a joke...Smithtown East loony's may have surpassed Mt. Insane O
Big problems at Smithtown East go witness for yourselves, should be a few parent brawls in the stands. Its been brewing all season long.
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Come on, lacrosse is all about selfish stat building which leads to early verbals. If you are trolling this site you probably have an athletic kid and are around other sports. Answer me this, what other sport do you hear about the constant scholarships and early committing? Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Football? Basketball? NONE OF THEM! they all get some scholarships but the only sport you ever hear about is Lacrosse and summer club teams are a major driver.
Just ask the Smithtown East Mom who calls the sidelines/scorers table during the game to ensure her little star is getting "credit" for her goals/assists. What a joke...Smithtown East loony's may have surpassed Mt. Insane O
Big problems at Smithtown East go witness for yourselves, should be a few parent brawls in the stands. Its been brewing all season long.
At the start of the second half of the WI @ SE two of the SE parents started dropping F bombs on each other and almost went at it.
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Come on, lacrosse is all about selfish stat building which leads to early verbals. If you are trolling this site you probably have an athletic kid and are around other sports. Answer me this, what other sport do you hear about the constant scholarships and early committing? Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Football? Basketball? NONE OF THEM! they all get some scholarships but the only sport you ever hear about is Lacrosse and summer club teams are a major driver.
Just ask the Smithtown East Mom who calls the sidelines/scorers table during the game to ensure her little star is getting "credit" for her goals/assists. What a joke...Smithtown East loony's may have surpassed Mt. Insane O
Big problems at Smithtown East go witness for yourselves, should be a few parent brawls in the stands. Its been brewing all season long.
At the start of the second half of the WI @ SE two of the SE parents started dropping F bombs on each other and almost went at it.
Are you surprised. WI and SE parents can be proud knowing we expect trash and get trash in the stands when either of these teams play. Not to mention when they're both playing. Parents are a joke and embarrassing.
Just saw who our coach selected for "all conference". I mean, our coach is bad but selecting this girl just proves how out of touch she is with this team. She picks the most selfish player, who doesnt pass and is the last person you would want to be a role model for the rest of the girls on the team. Go figure!
Come on, lacrosse is all about selfish stat building which leads to early verbals. If you are trolling this site you probably have an athletic kid and are around other sports. Answer me this, what other sport do you hear about the constant scholarships and early committing? Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Football? Basketball? NONE OF THEM! they all get some scholarships but the only sport you ever hear about is Lacrosse and summer club teams are a major driver.
Just ask the Smithtown East Mom who calls the sidelines/scorers table during the game to ensure her little star is getting "credit" for her goals/assists. What a joke...Smithtown East loony's may have surpassed Mt. Insane O
Big problems at Smithtown East go witness for yourselves, should be a few parent brawls in the stands. Its been brewing all season long.
At the start of the second half of the WI @ SE two of the SE parents started dropping F bombs on each other and almost went at it.
Are you surprised. WI and SE parents can be proud knowing we expect trash and get trash in the stands when either of these teams play. Not to mention when they're both playing. Parents are a joke and embarrassing.
Line up the double wides should be great show (in the stands) watching Smithtown East vs. Smithtown West. Plenty of beer balls and chronic for everyone! These folks take the cake, calling the scorers table, F bombs, brawling, cops who's announcing the game Jerry Springer.
$6 entry fee for girls semi finals and finals. Do the schools competing get any of that money or does section XI get it all?
$6 entry fee for girls semi finals and finals. Do the schools competing get any of that money or does section XI get it all?
STAY HOME !!!!!
Bitching about 6 dollars after spending 3 grand a year on club lax. Give me a break
$6 entry fee for girls semi finals and finals. Do the schools competing get any of that money or does section XI get it all?
STAY HOME !!!!!
What's the Nassau High School playoff schedule
For this week? Thanks
Can anyone explain why Centereach and Newfield get to merge together to form Middle Country for girls lacrosse? Both HS on their own have D 1 enrollment and combined they are second largest in the county.
$6 entry fee for girls semi finals and finals. Do the schools competing get any of that money or does section XI get it all?
STAY HOME !!!!!
What's the Nassau High School playoff schedule
For this week? Thanks
It was a question, not a complaint. Not everything on here is crying and whining. Just curious.
She is carrying wb on her back and there are other great players on LI but this kid can do it all. best I saw this year.
She is carrying wb on her back and there are other great players on LI but this kid can do it all. best I saw this year.
Both WB girls are really good - no doubt. However, Huntington coach did nothing to try and stop them. There was no face guarding. There were no automatic slides. Nothing. Other teams have put in defensive schemes against them that worked.
Bitching about 6 dollars after spending 3 grand a year on club lax. Give me a break
that is too funny!
I know it's not lax related but my daughter played aau bb and you get charged admission ($5-10) for local tourneys and the big recruiting tourneys admission is $20 a day or $50 for a three day pass. Then if the tourney is at Spooky Nook in PA, you get charged $5 parking a day on top of that. Section XI charges the same for lax soccer field hockey and bb and probably every other sport for playoffs.
Probably the $6 you get charged for the first round helps to pay for the semis ans finals when the teams usually play at a college and I guess they would have to pay for the use of the facility.
First Suffolk Class B result in. WB over Hunt 14-12 with the 2 WB studettes scoring 7 goals each
How does Huntington lose to a team with two players?
Good question
Go look at the Newsday stats. The 2 WB girls had EVERY goal and EVERY assist. Not one other offensive player with a goal or assist. No attempt to shut either of them off and make the 5 other offensive players beat you.
You lost to the best player on Long Island last year she played hurt and just about beat WI by herself in the first round, how quickly people forget. Yes its a team sport but so is basketball and one player can dominate and be unstoppable. She is unstoppable and puts on a show. Will be a great game against Happauge.
Bitching about 6 dollars after spending 3 grand a year on club lax. Give me a break
that is too funny!
I know it's not lax related but my daughter played aau bb and you get charged admission ($5-10) for local tourneys and the big recruiting tourneys admission is $20 a day or $50 for a three day pass. Then if the tourney is at Spooky Nook in PA, you get charged $5 parking a day on top of that. Section XI charges the same for lax soccer field hockey and bb and probably every other sport for playoffs.
Probably the $6 you get charged for the first round helps to pay for the semis ans finals when the teams usually play at a college and I guess they would have to pay for the use of the facility.
I was told that the admission $ goes to pay for hotels and busses to Cortland.
sounds like a sour grapes question due to them having a perfect record going into the playoffs.
$6 entry fee for girls semi finals and finals. Do the schools competing get any of that money or does section XI get it all?
STAY HOME !!!!!
Your not paying attention it goes towards the beer balls, big bambu and bail money for Smithtown East parents
$6 entry fee for girls semi finals and finals. Do the schools competing get any of that money or does section XI get it all?
STAY HOME !!!!!
Your not paying attention it goes towards the beer balls, big bambu and bail money for Smithtown East parents
That is if they make it off the island!
Nassau County Referees:
How does Rich Fanning get a county semi final game? We all know who his brother is, but does he really deserve to ref a game of this magnitude? With all of the other quality refs out there it just does not make sense.
She is carrying wb on her back and there are other great players on LI but this kid can do it all. best I saw this year.
Great individual player no doubt. WB has history of producing great isolation players. The other players someone mentioned are also great players, more team play oriented. Also interesting to note the US national teams did not select SS for the senior team at the height of her career or the current WB player for the current U19 team. I think she should have made the team this year but a team needs to commit to that style of play. Some teams will beat you with a balanced attack, some will try to load it all on an individual player. I think the US national team are looking for those cog in the wheel type players.
Please ,plenty of politics involved, kid from WB is best player on the island , down performance against BBP or Mt Sinai had more to do with those being actual teams from top to bottom than individual player on other team. Watched BBp vs Mt Sinai game and neither of those kids were the best player on the field that day. Go watch Farmingdale vs BBp on MSG again #10 best player on field that day , or St.Anthony vs Mt. Sinai the kid from Sinai struggled .The kid from WB essentially has 1 other kid on that team to work with ,when she is on a team with more weapons she makes the other kids around her better and is way less of an isolation player than some of the others mentioned.
Concerning the current WB Player is an alternate for the Current U19 National team she earned that as a player at the tryouts with a leg injury not bad for a player who was not 100 percent.
Order of the top players, in my opinion
'Set
Mt. S
Middle Country
BBP
W.B.
Goalies
Sayville
SWR
ESM
ST.A
3WAY TIE
both from hunt, S.E.
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She is carrying wb on her back and there are other great players on LI but this kid can do it all. best I saw this year.
Great individual player no doubt. WB has history of producing great isolation players. The other players someone mentioned are also great players, more team play oriented. Also interesting to note the US national teams did not select SS for the senior team at the height of her career or the current WB player for the current U19 team. I think she should have made the team this year but a team needs to commit to that style of play. Some teams will beat you with a balanced attack, some will try to load it all on an individual player. I think the US national team are looking for those cog in the wheel type players.
Please ,plenty of politics involved, kid from WB is best player on the island , down performance against BBP or Mt Sinai had more to do with those being actual teams from top to bottom than individual player on other team. Watched BBp vs Mt Sinai game and neither of those kids were the best player on the field that day. Go watch Farmingdale vs BBp on MSG again #10 best player on field that day , or St.Anthony vs Mt. Sinai the kid from Sinai struggled .The kid from WB essentially has 1 other kid on that team to work with ,when she is on a team with more weapons she makes the other kids around her better and is way less of an isolation player than some of the others mentioned.
If you put those other kids on WB they would HAVE to do more. It is not that they can't. I saw the ST A's game as well and the MT Sinai kid was getting locked off and slid to whenever she touched the ball. Still got plenty of opportunities for her teamates. Give credit to the St A's goalie who had a phenomenal game! That being said Mt Sinai and BBp use all their kids because they can. Give credit to those coaches and kids for being unselfish. It is funny that it appears you watch games and only look at the effect a kid has on the offensive side of the ball. The reason that the Mt Sinai,BBP and St A's kid are so good is their effect everywhere else. They are all Great in the 30's where the game is controlled. Great in transition DEFENSE (stopping other teams breaks), great at shutting the other teams best player down, great at getting to ground balls, great at sliding and helping their teammates when they are beat. Great on the circle, great at causing turnovers, great at clearing the ball and are all really good offensively as well. It is not always the kids doing all the scoring that are playing the best.
You obviously are talking about a game as if you watched when in reality you did not. My point is its very easy to say the wB player got outplayed when playing those kids that were mentioned when in reality she got outplayed by a whole team. Watch the Farmingdale BBp game and tell me #10 was not the best player on the field that day , you talk about draw controls , ground balls , clearing the ball she was obviously the best player , add in scoring when it was needed and there is no question. Not a knock on any other player it is what it is, but some of you are blinded by your loyalty to a player or your dislike of another. Take the WB kid off her team how many games do they win without her.
I have seen all these kids play many times! Against each other and with each other. To bring up on game against a down Farmingdale team doesn't prove that #10 is better than # 19. Ask Weiner who she thinks is better! I can guarantee what her answer would be (#19).
They are all great and it is very hard to say who is better. My point is that most people watch a game and value the kids who get the points on offense. I am just pointing out that there are so many aspects of the game that need to be valued. Funny thing is the WB kid is great on the draw and you never mention it. I think she is a great player but not clearly the best.
I think WB is the best player. Fabulous on offense, speedy to get where she needs to be, an excellent shooter and feeder, and can play defense as well. I was there when WB played BBP and all I can say was WB as a whole was off that day, big time. Not saying WB would win if they rematched, but I bet it would be closer.
I also saw the BBP v. Farmingdale game and #10 had a great game -- because Farmindale's defense was like a sieve. Put her against a good defense and she is almost completely stymied, you can check Newsday's stats on that. 19 sees the game and who she can assist if she can't go to goal herself, 10 sees the goal much more than an open player so if she can't get through the defense alone then that's that.
MS girl is a great player but too many tricks up her sleeve. Cheap fouls, string tightening, moving after the whistle. That diminishes her in my eyes. No one is faster though, and she's got a lightning shot.
Ok. Time to move on to playoffs. Let's give these "best players" you're all talking about a rest. They're tired.
Ok. Time to move on to playoffs. Let's give these "best players" you're all talking about a rest. They're tired.
Syo just killed Oceanside
Dealers beating Chiefs 4-1 right now
how did wb lose to huntington first time around.
OK WHOS GONNA WIN NORTHPORT OR WEST ISLIP TO GET TO THE FINALS
I WILL HAVE TO SAY NPRTHPORT !!!! BY 2-3
OK WHOS GONNA WIN NORTHPORT OR WEST ISLIP TO GET TO THE FINALS
I WILL HAVE TO SAY NPRTHPORT !!!! BY 2-3
Who won when they played earlier this year?
west islip i think 8-4
but north port had off game
Wantagh beat Garden City 8-7! Great game!
As a West Babylon parent, I would like to thank #12 for giving us the opportunity to be in every game. It was a pleasure to see you play with such determination and heart. You are a huge role model to the younger girls on your team. Even though your high school career is over, we will continue to watch you shine at Boston College. You will truely be missed
what's with the stats on MSG Varsity they are all over the place lately
Wantagh beat Garden City 8-7! Great game!
2 years in a row for Wantagh girls!
As a West Babylon parent, I would like to thank #12 for giving us the opportunity to be in every game. It was a pleasure to see you play with such determination and heart. You are a huge role model to the younger girls on your team. Even though your high school career is over, we will continue to watch you shine at Boston College. You will truely be missed
Well said.
Wantagh beat Garden City 8-7! Great game!
2 years in a row for Wantagh girls!
Awesome. You get to play one more.
Wantagh beat Garden City 8-7! Great game!
2 years in a row for Wantagh girls!
Has wantagh ever win a state title. Just asking out of curiosity.
Wantagh is a better coached team, and their top players played well. GC looked tight and made many errors.
OK WHOS GONNA WIN NORTHPORT OR WEST ISLIP TO GET TO THE FINALS
I WILL HAVE TO SAY NPRTHPORT !!!! BY 2-3
Who won when they played earlier this year?
WI won. Think WI will win it. They have no super studs but work really well together as a team. Very well coached. Think they have a shot at MC as well if they win on Friday. Good luck to WI.
Wantagh is a better coached team, and their top players played well. GC looked tight and made many errors.
take it easy with the better coached nonsense. GC has a trophy case full of state titles that say otherwise. tough loss and the other comments are accurate, but two trips to the county finals doesn't even put the coaches in the same conversation
[quote=Anonymous]Wantagh is a better coached team, and their top players played well. GC looked tight and made many errors.
take it easy with the better coached nonsense. GC has a trophy case full of state titles that say otherwise. tough loss and the other comments are accurate, but two trips to the county finals doesn't even put the coaches in the same conversation [/quote}
GC has a great program and some of these Girls have been playing great games against each other for years now. For her second year the new coach seems headed in the right direction. let not start sounding like some Suffolk Parents on this blog. A Wantagh Parent. Congrats to the Wantagh Girls for last night.
Congrats to Wantagh they were the better team yesterday, great win.
Good luck against Manhasset.
A Garden City varsity parent
I guess all is well in ESM land. No drama now that they made the county finals. What a difference a week makes. Good luck on Tuesday.
I guess all is well in ESM land. No drama now that they made the county finals. What a difference a week makes. Good luck on Tuesday.
It's not well at all but will be soon, when she's gone! Just being kept quiet until the end of the season.
OK WHOS GONNA WIN NORTHPORT OR WEST ISLIP TO GET TO THE FINALS
I WILL HAVE TO SAY NPRTHPORT !!!! BY 2-3
Who won when they played earlier this year?
WI won. Think WI will win it. They have no super studs but work really well together as a team. Very well coached. Think they have a shot at MC as well if they win on Friday. Good luck to WI.
I guess you havent watched WI too much and you just look at stats and whats your description of a super stud someone who scores 10 goals against Longwood?? We have a 10 grader who will be Suffolk County Player of the year in two years start watching instead of stat checking and yes we have two great coaches.
OK WHOS GONNA WIN NORTHPORT OR WEST ISLIP TO GET TO THE FINALS
I WILL HAVE TO SAY NPRTHPORT !!!! BY 2-3
Who won when they played earlier this year?
WI won. Think WI will win it. They have no super studs but work really well together as a team. Very well coached. Think they have a shot at MC as well if they win on Friday. Good luck to WI.
I guess you havent watched WI too much and you just look at stats and whats your description of a super stud someone who scores 10 goals against Longwood?? We have a 10 grader who will be Suffolk County Player of the year in two years start watching instead of stat checking and yes we have two great coaches.
Couldn't stand the thought that someone didn't identify a super stud on WI? Too funny.
OK WHOS GONNA WIN NORTHPORT OR WEST ISLIP TO GET TO THE FINALS
I WILL HAVE TO SAY NPRTHPORT !!!! BY 2-3
Who won when they played earlier this year?
WI won. Think WI will win it. They have no super studs but work really well together as a team. Very well coached. Think they have a shot at MC as well if they win on Friday. Good luck to WI.
I guess you havent watched WI too much and you just look at stats and whats your description of a super stud someone who scores 10 goals against Longwood?? We have a 10 grader who will be Suffolk County Player of the year in two years start watching instead of stat checking and yes we have two great coaches.
Relax Dad.... Didn't say your daughter wasn't good. Just she does not carry the team or clearly stands out above other teammates. Post was actually a compliment to West Islip girls working as a whole unit. Don't need to see stats, could care less about them. I was at the game when my daughter played West Islip. Go back to your red cups and getting lit before your daughters games,,,,classy!
First off I don't need you to tell me my daughters good and save your compliments my fat wife.
First off I don't need you to tell me my daughters good and save your compliments my fat wife.
Guess I hit a sore spot huh!
OK WHOS GONNA WIN NORTHPORT OR WEST ISLIP TO GET TO THE FINALS
I WILL HAVE TO SAY NPRTHPORT !!!! BY 2-3
Who won when they played earlier this year?
WI won. Think WI will win it. They have no super studs but work really well together as a team. Very well coached. Think they have a shot at MC as well if they win on Friday. Good luck to WI.
I guess you havent watched WI too much and you just look at stats and whats your description of a super stud someone who scores 10 goals against Longwood?? We have a 10 grader who will be Suffolk County Player of the year in two years start watching instead of stat checking and yes we have two great coaches.
Relax Dad.... Didn't say your daughter wasn't good. Just she does not carry the team or clearly stands out above other teammates. Post was actually a compliment to West Islip girls working as a whole unit. Don't need to see stats, could care less about them. I was at the game when my daughter played West Islip. Go back to your red cups and getting lit before your daughters games,,,,classy!
Zero chance player of the year will be from WI , just got to watch a group of very talented 10 th graders from LI at school girls tourney and sorry to say they are head and shoulders above the rest .
OK WHOS GONNA WIN NORTHPORT OR WEST ISLIP TO GET TO THE FINALS
I WILL HAVE TO SAY NPRTHPORT !!!! BY 2-3
Who won when they played earlier this year?
WI won. Think WI will win it. They have no super studs but work really well together as a team. Very well coached. Think they have a shot at MC as well if they win on Friday. Good luck to WI.
I guess you havent watched WI too much and you just look at stats and whats your description of a super stud someone who scores 10 goals against Longwood?? We have a 10 grader who will be Suffolk County Player of the year in two years start watching instead of stat checking and yes we have two great coaches.
Relax Dad.... Didn't say your daughter wasn't good. Just she does not carry the team or clearly stands out above other teammates. Post was actually a compliment to West Islip girls working as a whole unit. Don't need to see stats, could care less about them. I was at the game when my daughter played West Islip. Go back to your red cups and getting lit before your daughters games,,,,classy!
Zero chance player of the year will be from WI , just got to watch a group of very talented 10 th graders from LI at school girls tourney and sorry to say they are head and shoulders above the rest .
I think the post said in 2 years, not this year. That would make the player an 8th grader. There were more than a few 8th graders making impacts on their teams this year.
This was obviously someone stirring the pot about WI. They do not have any 8th graders on Varsity this year and only one on JV and she is a goalie. WI only has had one 8th grader in their history on Varsity and she is an exceptional athlete. Move on to something else there is no story here.
No offense but you guys need to reread the original post .
Who won when they played earlier this year? [/quote]
WI won. Think WI will win it. They have no super studs but work really well together as a team. Very well coached. Think they have a shot at MC as well if they win on Friday. Good luck to WI. [/quote]
I guess you havent watched WI too much and you just look at stats and whats your description of a super stud someone who scores 10 goals against Longwood?? We have a 10 grader who will be Suffolk County Player of the year in two years start watching instead of stat checking and yes we have two great coaches. [/quote]
Relax Dad.... Didn't say your daughter wasn't good. Just she does not carry the team or clearly stands out above other teammates. Post was actually a compliment to West Islip girls working as a whole unit. Don't need to see stats, could care less about them. I was at the game when my daughter played West Islip. Go back to your red cups and getting lit before your daughters games,,,,classy! [/quote]
Zero chance player of the year will be from WI , just got to watch a group of very talented 10 th graders from LI at school girls tourney and sorry to say they are head and shoulders above the rest . [/quote]
I think the post said in 2 years, not this year. That would make the player an 8th grader. There were more than a few 8th graders making impacts on their teams this year. [/quote]
Wrong, the post said current 10th grader will be player of the year in 2 years - when she is a senior. You are the first to mention 8th graders and then somebody else jumped on it.
I guess all is well in ESM land. No drama now that they made the county finals. What a difference a week makes. Good luck on Tuesday.
It's not well at all but will be soon, when she's gone! Just being kept quiet until the end of the season.
I just want to know what administration in their right minds would fire a coach who has brought the program to the county championships four years in her five years of coaching!! Just saying!!!
I guess all is well in ESM land. No drama now that they made the county finals. What a difference a week makes. Good luck on Tuesday.
It's not well at all but will be soon, when she's gone! Just being kept quiet until the end of the season.
I just want to know what administration in their right minds would fire a coach who has brought the program to the county championships four years in her five years of coaching!! Just saying!!!
Ok, I'll fill you in. Every administration is obligated to protect the well-being of young girls, and give them ALL a positive, healthy experience, which they're entitled to, without being bullied, and verbally and mentally abused. Based on your post, I know you don't understand, but believe it or not, that's more important than winning. Nobody is saying the new coach can't be tough on them, but you need to know where to draw the line. Our younger ESM girls will be better off with someone who's more positive, even if they win a few less games.
I guess all is well in ESM land. No drama now that they made the county finals. What a difference a week makes. Good luck on Tuesday.
It's not well at all but will be soon, when she's gone! Just being kept quiet until the end of the season.
I just want to know what administration in their right minds would fire a coach who has brought the program to the county championships four years in her five years of coaching!! Just saying!!!
When is everyone going to wake up? Administrations are there for education and athletics just comes along for the ride. Any drama or controversy and the coach is out whether they are winning or not. Happens at schools every year. Schools with a 100-150 million budget operation and thousands of employees and you think they care about a $5,000 a year coach? More parents should be thinking like the administrations do and worry about your daughters education first and everything else second. If athletics is everything to you, go play club they will all take your money.
I guess all is well in ESM land. No drama now that they made the county finals. What a difference a week makes. Good luck on Tuesday.
It's not well at all but will be soon, when she's gone! Just being kept quiet until the end of the season.
I just want to know what administration in their right minds would fire a coach who has brought the program to the county championships four years in her five years of coaching!! Just saying!!!
Ok, I'll fill you in. Every administration is obligated to protect the well-being of young girls, and give them ALL a positive, healthy experience, which they're entitled to, without being bullied, and verbally and mentally abused. Based on your post, I know you don't understand, but believe it or not, that's more important than winning. Nobody is saying the new coach can't be tough on them, but you need to know where to draw the line. Our younger ESM girls will be better off with someone who's more positive, even if they win a few less games.
Problem is its impossible to give every player a positive experience. Name one program where that happens. There are too many varied expectations among players and parents of what a positive experience should be. We had a coach years ago that the girls really like personally but she played all kids almost equal time and we were barely competitive, the better players started to resent it and losing gets old in a hurry.
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I guess all is well in ESM land. No drama now that they made the county finals. What a difference a week makes. Good luck on Tuesday.
It's not well at all but will be soon, when she's gone! Just being kept quiet until the end of the season.
I just want to know what administration in their right minds would fire a coach who has brought the program to the county championships four years in her five years of coaching!! Just saying!!!
Ok, I'll fill you in. Every administration is obligated to protect the well-being of young girls, and give them ALL a positive, healthy experience, which they're entitled to, without being bullied, and verbally and mentally abused. Based on your post, I know you don't understand, but believe it or not, that's more important than winning. Nobody is saying the new coach can't be tough on them, but you need to know where to draw the line. Our younger ESM girls will be better off with someone who's more positive, even if they win a few less games.
Problem is its impossible to give every player a positive experience. Name one program where that happens. There are too many varied expectations among players and parents of what a positive experience should be. We had a coach years ago that the girls really like personally but she played all kids almost equal time and we were barely competitive, the better players started to resent it and losing gets old in a hurry.
That's why the better players have their club teams, where competing comes first, and where the college recruiting is done. Problem solved.
Club girls only pass to other club girls on our team. Where do we get to complain about that? Impossible to make everyone happy. Hope you have a fair, knowledgeable, respectful coach and then it is what it is...
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I guess all is well in ESM land. No drama now that they made the county finals. What a difference a week makes. Good luck on Tuesday.
It's not well at all but will be soon, when she's gone! Just being kept quiet until the end of the season.
I just want to know what administration in their right minds would fire a coach who has brought the program to the county championships four years in her five years of coaching!! Just saying!!!
Ok, I'll fill you in. Every administration is obligated to protect the well-being of young girls, and give them ALL a positive, healthy experience, which they're entitled to, without being bullied, and verbally and mentally abused. Based on your post, I know you don't understand, but believe it or not, that's more important than winning. Nobody is saying the new coach can't be tough on them, but you need to know where to draw the line. Our younger ESM girls will be better off with someone who's more positive, even if they win a few less games.
Problem is its impossible to give every player a positive experience. Name one program where that happens. There are too many varied expectations among players and parents of what a positive experience should be. We had a coach years ago that the girls really like personally but she played all kids almost equal time and we were barely competitive, the better players started to resent it and losing gets old in a hurry.
That's why the better players have their club teams, where competing comes first, and where the college recruiting is done. Problem solved.
That's ridiculous , its a varsity sport , play to win . If you want your kid to get more playing time have them play JV. Actually things should be the exact reverse of what you are saying, club teams should play the kids relatively equal time as they have all paid the same and its about recruiting more than winning. Varsity sports should be about winning ,again if you just want your kid to play stay on JV.
Play to win is the way of life for varsity sports. If you don't like that then pu your kid now bc there are many college kids who see no time who were superstars in high school. Take that silver spoon out of your daughters mouth before it's too late!!
Play to win is the way of life for varsity sports. If you don't like that then pu your kid now bc there are many college kids who see no time who were superstars in high school. Take that silver spoon out of your daughters mouth before it's too late!!
looks like the point was lost again somehow. the story about the coach being removed had nothing to do with winning or losing. she definitely wins, but that's not the point. she's going because of the way she treats the kids in the process, that's all.
Play to win is the way of life for varsity sports. If you don't like that then pu your kid now bc there are many college kids who see no time who were superstars in high school. Take that silver spoon out of your daughters mouth before it's too late!!
looks like the point was lost again somehow. the story about the coach being removed had nothing to do with winning or losing. she definitely wins, but that's not the point. she's going because of the way she treats the kids in the process, that's all.
this goes on in EVERY school and there are more who will say they love her then hate her so good luck with your quest to ruin someone's life bc your precious little princess doesn't like to be yelled at!!!
Play to win is the way of life for varsity sports. If you don't like that then pu your kid now bc there are many college kids who see no time who were superstars in high school. Take that silver spoon out of your daughters mouth before it's too late!!
looks like the point was lost again somehow. the story about the coach being removed had nothing to do with winning or losing. she definitely wins, but that's not the point. she's going because of the way she treats the kids in the process, that's all.
this goes on in EVERY school and there are more who will say they love her then hate her so good luck with your quest to ruin someone's life bc your precious little princess doesn't like to be yelled at!!!
ruin someone's life? princess being yelled at? you have no idea what you're talking about and what goes on at ESM certainly DOES NOT go on in EVERY school. we'll see what happens.
Anyone know the west islip vs Middle Country score?
West Islip wins 11-10. No studs but another county title
I will let you guess it's back to back county champs 11-10 Overtime
Anyone know the west islip vs Middle Country score?
WI won in dbl or 11-10
Anyone know the west islip vs Middle Country score?
12-11 W.I. in Double OT! Congrats and great win!
Mt Sinai beat BBP 7-4
West Islip beat Middle Ctry 11-10
It is hard to go undefeated in Suffolk Div 1. Even harder to beat a good team twice in the same season.
I guess all is well in ESM land. No drama now that they made the county finals. What a difference a week makes. Good luck on Tuesday.
It's not well at all but will be soon, when she's gone! Just being kept quiet until the end of the season.
I just want to know what administration in their right minds would fire a coach who has brought the program to the county championships four years in her five years of coaching!! Just saying!!!
Ok, I'll fill you in. Every administration is obligated to protect the well-being of young girls, and give them ALL a positive, healthy experience, which they're entitled to, without being bullied, and verbally and mentally abused. Based on your post, I know you don't understand, but believe it or not, that's more important than winning. Nobody is saying the new coach can't be tough on them, but you need to know where to draw the line. Our younger ESM girls will be better off with someone who's more positive, even if they win a few less games.
Giving them ALL a positive, healthy experience is what you're saying is not happening at ESM. Well, according to all the alumni present at the game last night in support of the program and the coach, it would seem the three or four missing from the game who apparently are the ones who did not have a positive experience with the coach are the ones you are speaking of. so three or four unhappy kids are going to ruin it for the many past and present who love being a part of this team. I'm sure every team has one or two kids unhappy. Glad my time is just about over here and happy to have had the time I did under this coach and a program she built to what it is now, as hard as that is to admit for you. the younger kids that you seem to be so concerned about are missing out on playing for a great coach and part of a history-making program. It's unfortunate that allegations and accusations can be made just to satisfy an agenda of a past player who maybe didn't get what she thought she deserved or a parent who thought their child should have been a starter. There are three sides to every story. We will agree to disagree here. As far as the coach, she will have no trouble snagging a coaching gig with her successful past record. Just because you say there was bullying, mental abuse, etc., doesn't make it true and the many, many letters, phone calls, and private meetings had with administration have proven you are in the minority. you may be powerful maybe, but definitely in the minority. I'm happy for the coach that so many past and present came and defended her and spoke to and had meetings on her behalf. I wish her well and who ever takes over the program I wish the best of luck, they're going to need it. I hope you can move on with your life after she is gone.
OK WHOS GONNA WIN NORTHPORT OR WEST ISLIP TO GET TO THE FINALS
I WILL HAVE TO SAY NPRTHPORT !!!! BY 2-3
Who won when they played earlier this year?
WI won. Think WI will win it. They have no super studs but work really well together as a team. Very well coached. Think they have a shot at MC as well if they win on Friday. Good luck to WI.
I guess you havent watched WI too much and you just look at stats and whats your description of a super stud someone who scores 10 goals against Longwood?? We have a 10 grader who will be Suffolk County Player of the year in two years start watching instead of stat checking and yes we have two great coaches.
Relax Dad.... Didn't say your daughter wasn't good. Just she does not carry the team or clearly stands out above other teammates. Post was actually a compliment to West Islip girls working as a whole unit. Don't need to see stats, could care less about them. I was at the game when my daughter played West Islip. Go back to your red cups and getting lit before your daughters games,,,,classy!
Zero chance player of the year will be from WI , just got to watch a group of very talented 10 th graders from LI at school girls tourney and sorry to say they are head and shoulders above the rest .
Lets just say that you were watching our 10th grader who was at the school girls tourney, thats all I need to say.
I guess all is well in ESM land. No drama now that they made the county finals. What a difference a week makes. Good luck on Tuesday.
It's not well at all but will be soon, when she's gone! Just being kept quiet until the end of the season.
I just want to know what administration in their right minds would fire a coach who has brought the program to the county championships four years in her five years of coaching!! Just saying!!!
Ok, I'll fill you in. Every administration is obligated to protect the well-being of young girls, and give them ALL a positive, healthy experience, which they're entitled to, without being bullied, and verbally and mentally abused. Based on your post, I know you don't understand, but believe it or not, that's more important than winning. Nobody is saying the new coach can't be tough on them, but you need to know where to draw the line. Our younger ESM girls will be better off with someone who's more positive, even if they win a few less games.
Giving them ALL a positive, healthy experience is what you're saying is not happening at ESM. Well, according to all the alumni present at the game last night in support of the program and the coach, it would seem the three or four missing from the game who apparently are the ones who did not have a positive experience with the coach are the ones you are speaking of. so three or four unhappy kids are going to ruin it for the many past and present who love being a part of this team. I'm sure every team has one or two kids unhappy. Glad my time is just about over here and happy to have had the time I did under this coach and a program she built to what it is now, as hard as that is to admit for you. the younger kids that you seem to be so concerned about are missing out on playing for a great coach and part of a history-making program. It's unfortunate that allegations and accusations can be made just to satisfy an agenda of a past player who maybe didn't get what she thought she deserved or a parent who thought their child should have been a starter. There are three sides to every story. We will agree to disagree here. As far as the coach, she will have no trouble snagging a coaching gig with her successful past record. Just because you say there was bullying, mental abuse, etc., doesn't make it true and the many, many letters, phone calls, and private meetings had with administration have proven you are in the minority. you may be powerful maybe, but definitely in the minority. I'm happy for the coach that so many past and present came and defended her and spoke to and had meetings on her behalf. I wish her well and who ever takes over the program I wish the best of luck, they're going to need it. I hope you can move on with your life after she is gone.
I agree with the above poster. My daughter is an alumni and I would have no problem standing in front of this team, past teams, and future teams and defending BT. Is she tough..yes!! Is she caring ABSOLUTELY!! Does she bully the kids..if you think yelling at a player instead of coddling them when they make mistakes is bullying then I disagree with you. SHe has built a legacy that no other will ever be able to from the moment she put on the ESM colors. My daughter was honoured to play for her and loved all four years she had with her. When she is home from school she along with her past teammates have made it a point to attend every game they can to show their support for their old teammates and to teach the younger ones what it means to be an alumni. They do not wear their college color they were their ESM PRIDE!!! The loudest in the stands!! Move on from your agenda to ruin this coach because your daughter didnt get the time YOU feel she deserved..its not about you!! I wish Coach well if administration is crazy enough to let her go because any school on LI will be lucky to have her...any college would as well!!
That's actually my point , there were several 10 th graders on that team who were clearly better , if you did not see that then you are just blind .I am sure she is a good player considering she made the team but you said player of the year, sorry but not in the same league as those other top 10 th graders.
Congratulations to Wantagh! Goalie was amazing! New coach and great chemistry!
Perhaps the inconsistencies with the statistics and resumes is the reason College coaches choose to look at their potential recruits and their style of play over the summer. A 6 year varsity starter from a weak program with hundreds of points doesn't compare with a 2 year Varsity impact player at a strong program. Coaches make the rounds at the summmer club tournaments and camps and look for players who excel in the challenging games.
High school ball should be about town pride, camaraderie, and perhaps a championship. The best teams play as teams. The oft ignored defense (in the stat column) usually makes the difference in those tight championship games.
Good luck to all our Long Island teams this season! And to the parents, try to relax and enjoy the ride!
Yes. Good post.
Have to disagree, sometimes that 6 year starter is just better than the 2 year impact player, sometimes not. To diminish any of these kids accomplishments because of jealousy is silly. Have seen travel teams who are made up of many of these 6 year starters play against the travel teams with the 2 year impact kids and can say i will take the team with the 6 year starters i.e. YJ vs Liberty
How are the teams with the 6 year starters doing today? Could any of those teams beat Liberty/Manhasset? If you want your kid to be a "gotta get mine" player and in the end not reach there goal stay at Y.J. If you want your kid to learn to play as a team and succeed play liberty and win in the end. While your kid is going down to Maryland that first tournament in June to beat on Liberty remember, its just because Manhasset is going up state to play for the state. At least you get to brag to one another how you kid got 12 goals against Brentwood as a 7th grade starter.
Congrats to Wantagh, you beat GC and Set back to back you deserve a County championship. Sorry, but Set continues to underperform in the big spots, not enough state titles for a program built to win them starting in elementary school at Liberty.
[quote=Anonymous]That's actually my point , there were several 10 th graders on that team who were clearly better , if you did not see that then you are just blind .I am sure she is a good player considering she made the team but you said player of the year, sorry but not in the same league as those other top 10 th
And I'm sure you picked last years Suffolk Player of the Year as well? This year if it's not the West Babylon kid then you are all blind. See you at the dinner.
It was clearly said in two years not this year!!!!!!
[quote=Anonymous]That's actually my point , there were several 10 th graders on that team who were clearly better , if you did not see that then you are just blind .I am sure she is a good player considering she made the team but you said player of the year, sorry but not in the same league as those other top 10 th
And I'm sure you picked last years Suffolk Player of the Year as well? This year if it's not the West Babylon kid then you are all blind. See you at the dinner.
I just think it's really stupid to call out a player as a future player of the year two years before her time. Think it if you want, but don't state it publicly. It's putting a target on her, both on the field and in the stands and in this forum. Cream rises to the top whether someone announces it or not. If she's the cream, then that will be obvious in two years.
Great job by Wantagh but the it has to get a little tougher on CSH 17-1 in finals? Why is there even a class 3 season?
North Shore, Southside, Long Beach, Plainedge, Calhoun, Macarther, Hewlett will never win a county with GC, Sett and Wantagh ahead of them yet CSH is anointed before the season starts
Congrats to the Wantagh girls...They have improved greatly over the past few years and deserve the Class B County Title!
Way to go Lady Warriors! It was just a matter of time!
Your daughter got cut didn't she? don't worry Y.J. will take her
Your daughter got cut didn't she? don't worry Y.J. will take her
Manhasset played 12 girls last night plus 2 goalies. How many of those players play on Liberty?
not one of the teams mentioned could beat CSH this year.
"Great job by Wantagh but the it has to get a little tougher on CSH 17-1 in finals? Why is there even a class 3 season?
North Shore, Southside, Long Beach, Plainedge, Calhoun, Macarther, Hewlett will never win a county with GC, Sett and Wantagh ahead of them yet CSH is anointed before the season starts"
Lets all shed a tear for them...CSH plays in Conference 1 along with GC, Manhasset, Wantagh and a number of the large A schools with good lax programs in the regular season despite its size and does just fine... If those other towns build their programs maybe one day they WILL compete for a championship. The size of the schools are what they are and you compete in the state tournament vs. like sized schools no matter what the sport. No one was crying for all the other schools when South Side was dominating the woman's soccer field for decades--they have a limited pool to pull from but have a great program.
If Wantagh can develop and win the B's . Other towns can do it too. It takes leadership and a strong youth program that Wantagh has developed. Wantagh is still a baseball town and was a Softball town. Wantagh did not have the lacrosse roots like GC and Man do when they started the girls program.
Other towns have the resources and athletes to develop their programs they just need the leadership.
"Great job by Wantagh but the it has to get a little tougher on CSH 17-1 in finals? Why is there even a class 3 season?
North Shore, Southside, Long Beach, Plainedge, Calhoun, Macarther, Hewlett will never win a county with GC, Sett and Wantagh ahead of them yet CSH is anointed before the season starts"
Lets all shed a tear for them...CSH plays in Conference 1 along with GC, Manhasset, Wantagh and a number of the large A schools with good lax programs in the regular season despite its size and does just fine... If those other towns build their programs maybe one day they WILL compete for a championship. The size of the schools are what they are and you compete in the state tournament vs. like sized schools no matter what the sport. No one was crying for all the other schools when South Side was dominating the woman's soccer field for decades--they have a limited pool to pull from but have a great program.
Can someone post what the school breakdown "population size" actually is? Maybe That needs to be adjusted by the state.....
because there not the yellow jackets, and my daughter is better than yours
Wantagh high school girls lacrosse has gone to numerous county finals at least 7 losing to the eventual state champs and a top ten national ranked team each time. So you are mistaken when you say wantagh is not a lacrosse town. GC and manhasset always stood in the way, and if I'm not mistaken not bad teams to lose to. Wantagh girls lax have been a top ten Long Island school for at least 10 years.
If Wantagh can develop and win the B's . Other towns can do it too. It takes leadership and a strong youth program that Wantagh has developed. Wantagh is still a baseball town and was a Softball town. Wantagh did not have the lacrosse roots like GC and Man do when they started the girls program.
Other towns have the resources and athletes to develop their programs they just need the leadership.
Our PAL coaching and leadership sets every team up around a few travel kids and then everyone else watches and gets discouraged and then quits. That's the type of leadership we have. What does winning a 2nd grade PAL game by 15 with one kid scoring 12 really do for the program?
That's embarrassing. If anything my son was slightly persecuted being the coaches son and would hear it if he wasn't passing and making the right lax play...
Wantagh plays good (great) lacrosse for both the boys and girls but it is a baseball town. Wantagh has been a baseball town since the 1960s.
Garden City plays good baseball won countries and state championships...are they a baseball town?
Trust me I am not putting down the Wantagh lacrosse programs, but historically Wantagh is a baseball town.
[quote=Anonymous]If Wantagh can develop and win the B's . Other towns can do it too. It takes leadership and a strong youth program that Wantagh has developed. Wantagh is still a baseball town and was a Softball town. Wantagh did not have the lacrosse roots like GC and Man do when they started the girls program.
Other towns have the resources and athletes to develop their programs they just need the leadership.
Our PAL coaching and leadership sets every team up around a few travel kids and then everyone else watches and gets discouraged and then quits. That's the type of leadership we have. What does winning a 2nd grade PAL game by 15 with one kid scoring 12 really do for the program?
The real problem is you'd rather criticize a coach from the sidelines then sacrifice your time in coaching these girls.
I'd say you are correct historically about baseball and Wantagh,still maybe for the boys,but Wantagh Girls Lacrosse had been on the rise for the past 10 years,also starting with a strong PAL program and girls who play travel also.
I think its safe to say that the teams that are consistently on top have a strong youth program where everyone plays, then a high percentage of those kids play over the summer and finally a strong school coach and system that mirrors the youth program keeping everyone involved from 7th-12th. The top down varsity HC philosophy is implemented on all teams with the best programs
How could Liberty be a joke if the have all manhasset and GC players? How is that possible?
How could Liberty be a joke if the have all manhasset and GC players? How is that possible?
I noticed that there are a lot of Elevate kids on Syosset, CSH and even a bunch on Wantagh. Seems like they are recruiting kids from the right programs to join.
the top GC girls play YJ and TG
Nassau County Championships - I saw all three games yesterday and 2 of the 3 were very exciting to watch. Here are some random thoughts from yesterday.
Game 1 - CSH vs. Oyster Bay - This game was over in the first ten minutes of the game. CSH moves the ball very well in transition and could have put up a lot more goals if they wanted to. They have their toughest game of the season up next against Mount Sinai. Should be a great one.
Game 2 - Syosset vs. Farmingdale - one of my favorite things was the Farmingdale boys team was wearing the Farmingdale girl's teams home jerseys - Lady Dalers on the front. Great school spirit. However the Dalers in their new black jerseys - AKA The Oakland Raiders - did not intimidate Syosset at all. Syosset was the deeper team and played a great all around game.
Game 3 - Wantagh vs. Manhasset - Wantagh came to play - especially their goalie who played lights out. Some things I did not like in this game - Manhasset coach constantly berating the refs, especially the time two players were down on the field and she was still arguing the call. Who does she think she is - Bill Tierney? If they had given her a card early, it would have kept her out of the game. Unfortunately - her tactics worked and the refs seemed to give her a lot of calls.
Adelphi is a great spot to watch the games and Saturday should be another 3 great games.
How could Liberty be a joke if the have all manhasset and GC players? How is that possible?
I noticed that there are a lot of Elevate kids on Syosset, CSH and even a bunch on Wantagh. Seems like they are recruiting kids from the right programs to join.
TG also has a good number of Wantagh Girls
How could Liberty be a joke if the have all manhasset and GC players? How is that possible?
why would they have all GC kids? you're lost
How could Liberty be a joke if the have all manhasset and GC players? How is that possible?
Because the elite travel programs take the very best girl or two from all towns, including Manhasset and GC, liberty has a limited draw from a couple towns. Truth is only a couple girls from each age group would make the top travel clubs top team. So take your top 2 players in an age group, now add 22 other girls who are just as good or better and you have what the elite clubs approach. Drawing from a small group, you can't compete.
How could Liberty be a joke if the have all manhasset and GC players? How is that possible?
Because the elite travel programs take the very best girl or two from all towns, including Manhasset and GC, liberty has a limited draw from a couple towns. Truth is only a couple girls from each age group would make the top travel clubs top team. So take your top 2 players in an age group, now add 22 other girls who are just as good or better and you have what the elite clubs approach. Drawing from a small group, you can't compete.
Liberty A = yj B
When and where are the games this weekend? What is the schedule?
When and where are the games this weekend? What is the schedule?
LI Championships - Saturday at Adelphi
C: 2:30 A: 5:00pm B: 7:30pm
Class A: Syosset vs. West Islip
Class B: Wantagh vs. Eastport Southport Manor
Class C: Cold Spring Harbor vs. Mount Sinai
When and where are the games this weekend? What is the schedule?
LI Championships - Saturday at Adelphi
C: 2:30 A: 5:00pm B: 7:30pm
Class A: Syosset vs. West Islip
Class B: Wantagh vs. Eastport Southport Manor
Class C: Cold Spring Harbor vs. Mount Sinai
CAn anyone provide odds / favorites?
When and where are the games this weekend? What is the schedule?
LI Championships - Saturday at Adelphi
C: 2:30 A: 5:00pm B: 7:30pm
Class A: Syosset vs. West Islip
Class B: Wantagh vs. Eastport Southport Manor
Class C: Cold Spring Harbor vs. Mount Sinai
2 out of three for Suffolk
WI
Wantagh
MT Sinai
Hard to pick Mt. Sinai since they always seem to hide and avoid playing any good teams. Look at their schedule especially non-conference they never challenge themselves. The only good team they played, they lost to. They seem more interested in padding their record. CSH as other Nassau conference I teams, play hard teams all the time and play tough non-conference games,for that reason i say CSH in a close game.
Hard to pick Mt. Sinai since they always seem to hide and avoid playing any good teams. Look at their schedule especially non-conference they never challenge themselves. The only good team they played, they lost to. They seem more interested in padding their record. CSH as other Nassau conference I teams, play hard teams all the time and play tough non-conference games,for that reason i say CSH in a close game.
Did you ever think possibly other teams do not want to play them, which I know is a fact concerning another team that was unbeaten going into playoffs.
what a typical Mt Cyanide answer, your right the Sufferns, Manhasset, GC and Dariens are all afraid of playing a mediocre team that cant beat St. Anthony's. BTW both Manhasset and GC beat them, GC by 7 goals, but you're right they are all afraid of playing them. Laxpower has a National Strength of Schedule Rating, Mt Sinai is ranked 42nd, do you know how hard you have to hide on LI to be ranked 42nd? All those other teams that are afraid of them are in the top ten, but off course you must be right you are after all from Mt. Sinai.
I will give it a shot. West Islip should win the A's over Syosset. The A's in Nassau is the weakest by far in years. I also think the A's in Suffolk were pretty weak as well but they get the nod over Nassau this year. I see a Suffern vs West Genny state final.
Wantagh has to be the favorite in the B's and I see them winning but you cannot count out ESM with Giacolone in the goal. Just look at what Wantagh's goalie did against Manhasset. If the ESM goalie has 15 - 20 saves they could pull it off.
The C's I am up in the air. I have not seen Mt. Sinai but like a previous poster said their schedule is suspect because their OOC games are weak and basically non existent. CSH on the other hand played a very tough schedule. They played (3) OOC games in Maryland as well as Suffern a team currently playing for the state A title. Also remember they play in a power conference...their losses were legit games. I am going with CSH
All I can say is thank goodness Set lost. For all of the nonsense that" they play the right way , look at the ball hog stat leaders ,you would never see that at SEt, Blah blah ". Got to watch them for the 2nd time in the championship game and will tell you the ball hogging is as bad if not worse on that team than any other .How many times does your superstar take an ill advised shot , the offense is run thru 2 kids ,with one of them shooting the ball every chance she gets.
the main player is a 2 time AA and on the U19 team...so yes, everything goes thru her. Did she take some bad shots? I would agree, but mainly towards the end when Manhasset was trying to make the comeback.
I was more disgusted in the coach of Manhasset. She spends the whole game screaming and whining at the ref's. During the second half she was basically on goal line extended yelling at the refs. It was even worse when her player was injured and she walked right by her to go after the ref's for calling her player for a charge...
I agree with all you said especially about ill advised shots by a great player, but man that Wantagh goalie was on fire.
All I can say is thank goodness Set lost. For all of the nonsense that" they play the right way , look at the ball hog stat leaders ,you would never see that at SEt, Blah blah ". Got to watch them for the 2nd time in the championship game and will tell you the ball hogging is as bad if not worse on that team than any other .How many times does your superstar take an ill advised shot , the offense is run thru 2 kids ,with one of them shooting the ball every chance she gets.
the discussion about ball hogging stats was in blow out games not competitive games where you need your best players to play their best. If you happy to see Manhasset lose then just say that without the frivolous reasoning.
the main player is a 2 time AA and on the U19 team...so yes, everything goes thru her. Did she take some bad shots? I would agree, but mainly towards the end when Manhasset was trying to make the comeback.
I was more disgusted in the coach of Manhasset. She spends the whole game screaming and whining at the ref's. During the second half she was basically on goal line extended yelling at the refs. It was even worse when her player was injured and she walked right by her to go after the ref's for calling her player for a charge...
cant yell at kids..cant yell at refs..who can you yell at?
Hard to pick Mt. Sinai since they always seem to hide and avoid playing any good teams. Look at their schedule especially non-conference they never challenge themselves. The only good team they played, they lost to. They seem more interested in padding their record. CSH as other Nassau conference I teams, play hard teams all the time and play tough non-conference games,for that reason i say CSH in a close game.
Hiding? lol really? This years 2 out of conference games were St. A's and CBA, Perennial powerhouses. In recent past years it has been Wantaugh,GC and New Cannan. Section 11 only allows a limited amount of games for the season, in fact Sayville a few years ago had one too many and got excluded from the playoffs and the coach got dismissed! If you use your stupid logic, Mt Sinai should be better than Wantaugh,Set and GC because they beat CBA by a wider margin than Wantaugh. Mt Sinai had as hard a schedule as they can play in Suffolk. All that being said I think it will be a good game between CSH and MT Sinai.
I was at the game - 2nd half only - and sat a few rows up behind the Manhasset bench. I did not hear either Manhasset coach yelling at the refs at all. And the statement that the Manhasset coach or coaches walked by her injured player to go to the ref to complain is nonsense. The collision between those two girls heads took my breathe away with concern. Both coaches ran out to their players and rightfully so. I couldn't believe both girls came back in to the game afterwards. The impact of their hit was tremendous. Just saying too, a ref sitting in front of me (who I recognize by face since he's been the ref of many games my daughter has played in in multiple sports), voiced aloud that he couldn't believe the call wasn't for a charge
Impartial observer at the Nassau championship (rooting for Wantagh). Wantagh's defense and goalie play was incredible.
I was at the game - 2nd half only - and sat a few rows up behind the Manhasset bench. I did not hear either Manhasset coach yelling at the refs at all. And the statement that the Manhasset coach or coaches walked by her injured player to go to the ref to complain is nonsense. The collision between those two girls heads took my breathe away with concern. Both coaches ran out to their players and rightfully so. I couldn't believe both girls came back in to the game afterwards. The impact of their hit was tremendous. Just saying too, a ref sitting in front of me (who I recognize by face since he's been the ref of many games my daughter has played in in multiple sports), voiced aloud that he couldn't believe the call wasn't for a charge
The call was a charge on Manhasset. You have to be kidding with this response. DG was on the refs all game. She should of had a jersey on she was in the field so much. After the collision she argued the call. Everyone saw it - while both players were down.
what a typical Mt Cyanide answer, your right the Sufferns, Manhasset, GC and Dariens are all afraid of playing a mediocre team that cant beat St. Anthony's. BTW both Manhasset and GC beat them, GC by 7 goals, but you're right they are all afraid of playing them. Laxpower has a National Strength of Schedule Rating, Mt Sinai is ranked 42nd, do you know how hard you have to hide on LI to be ranked 42nd? All those other teams that are afraid of them are in the top ten, but off course you must be right you are after all from Mt. Sinai.
Not from Mt. Sinai but did watch them play this year. The team is very good. They can only play 2 non conference games. They beat Christian bros academy and lost to St. Anthonys. Who else would you like to see them play? They can only play 16 regular season games. They had 14 conference games.
I was there and didn't see it. I saw both teams coaches tending to the two players whodunit illy looked as if they might be seriously injured. So, not everyone saw what you saw.
I was at the game - 2nd half only - and sat a few rows up behind the Manhasset bench. I did not hear either Manhasset coach yelling at the refs at all. And the statement that the Manhasset coach or coaches walked by her injured player to go to the ref to complain is nonsense. The collision between those two girls heads took my breathe away with concern. Both coaches ran out to their players and rightfully so. I couldn't believe both girls came back in to the game afterwards. The impact of their hit was tremendous. Just saying too, a ref sitting in front of me (who I recognize by face since he's been the ref of many games my daughter has played in in multiple sports), voiced aloud that he couldn't believe the call wasn't for a charge
The call was a charge on Manhasset. You have to be kidding with this response. DG was on the refs all game. She should of had a jersey on she was in the field so much. After the collision she argued the call. Everyone saw it - while both players were down.
just watched the play again on MSG,at exactly 76:00 play stops and you see 3 'set coaches run to the down player, at 76:05 DG turns to the refs and says something then turns back to her girl that is being attended to by 2 coaches at 76:10, to 76:28 she again turns to the refs and says something but is done by 76:30 before the video hits 77:00 both girls are up so your complaining about one minuet Mrs. Quinn. The girl was well taken care of. I wonder why you don't say anything about only one Wantaugh coach attending to their player. As for the call, I watched it over and over in slow motion and i will say it was a tough call, The 'set player had just gained possession while in full stride and took 2 steps before the collision, the Wantaugh girl never went to play the ball and rather stepped in front of the 'set girl and just barley stopped her feet before the collision. the Wantaugh girl could/should have been called for blocking seeing as she wasn't in a set defensive position . but at full speed it's a tough call. Should have been a toss. Either way it would not have helped 'set wantaugh was the better team that night
I was at the game - 2nd half only - and sat a few rows up behind the Manhasset bench. I did not hear either Manhasset coach yelling at the refs at all. And the statement that the Manhasset coach or coaches walked by her injured player to go to the ref to complain is nonsense. The collision between those two girls heads took my breathe away with concern. Both coaches ran out to their players and rightfully so. I couldn't believe both girls came back in to the game afterwards. The impact of their hit was tremendous. Just saying too, a ref sitting in front of me (who I recognize by face since he's been the ref of many games my daughter has played in in multiple sports), voiced aloud that he couldn't believe the call wasn't for a charge
The call was a charge on Manhasset. You have to be kidding with this response. DG was on the refs all game. She should of had a jersey on she was in the field so much. After the collision she argued the call. Everyone saw it - while both players were down.
just watched the play again on MSG,at exactly 76:00 play stops and you see 3 'set coaches run to the down player, at 76:05 DG turns to the refs and says something then turns back to her girl that is being attended to by 2 coaches at 76:10, to 76:28 she again turns to the refs and says something but is done by 76:30 before the video hits 77:00 both girls are up so your complaining about one minuet Mrs. Quinn. The girl was well taken care of. I wonder why you don't say anything about only one Wantaugh coach attending to their player. As for the call, I watched it over and over in slow motion and i will say it was a tough call, The 'set player had just gained possession while in full stride and took 2 steps before the collision, the Wantaugh girl never went to play the ball and rather stepped in front of the 'set girl and just barley stopped her feet before the collision. the Wantaugh girl could/should have been called for blocking seeing as she wasn't in a set defensive position . but at full speed it's a tough call. Should have been a toss. Either way it would not have helped 'set wantaugh was the better team that night
If you reviewed the game for this you need a life
I was at the game - 2nd half only - and sat a few rows up behind the Manhasset bench. I did not hear either Manhasset coach yelling at the refs at all. And the statement that the Manhasset coach or coaches walked by her injured player to go to the ref to complain is nonsense. The collision between those two girls heads took my breathe away with concern. Both coaches ran out to their players and rightfully so. I couldn't believe both girls came back in to the game afterwards. The impact of their hit was tremendous. Just saying too, a ref sitting in front of me (who I recognize by face since he's been the ref of many games my daughter has played in in multiple sports), voiced aloud that he couldn't believe the call wasn't for a charge
The call was a charge on Manhasset. You have to be kidding with this response. DG was on the refs all game. She should of had a jersey on she was in the field so much. After the collision she argued the call. Everyone saw it - while both players were down.
just watched the play again on MSG,at exactly 76:00 play stops and you see 3 'set coaches run to the down player, at 76:05 DG turns to the refs and says something then turns back to her girl that is being attended to by 2 coaches at 76:10, to 76:28 she again turns to the refs and says something but is done by 76:30 before the video hits 77:00 both girls are up so your complaining about one minuet Mrs. Quinn. The girl was well taken care of. I wonder why you don't say anything about only one Wantaugh coach attending to their player. As for the call, I watched it over and over in slow motion and i will say it was a tough call, The 'set player had just gained possession while in full stride and took 2 steps before the collision, the Wantaugh girl never went to play the ball and rather stepped in front of the 'set girl and just barley stopped her feet before the collision. the Wantaugh girl could/should have been called for blocking seeing as she wasn't in a set defensive position . but at full speed it's a tough call. Should have been a toss. Either way it would not have helped 'set wantaugh was the better team that night
If you reviewed the game for this you need a life
This is a lacrosse thread and the poster researched and respectfully commented on a current discussion.
You my friend need to get some help with your life and shut your pie hole.
Impartial observer at the Nassau championship (rooting for Wantagh). Wantagh's defense and goalie play was incredible.
The old saying goes, DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!
Nice seeing the defensive players getting some kudos!
I believe "Bald Bear" is tracking LI high school grads and how they are doing in college. Does anyone know where that thread is? I can't seem to find it. Thanks and sorry to interrupt the playoff talk.
I was at the game - 2nd half only - and sat a few rows up behind the Manhasset bench. I did not hear either Manhasset coach yelling at the refs at all. And the statement that the Manhasset coach or coaches walked by her injured player to go to the ref to complain is nonsense. The collision between those two girls heads took my breathe away with concern. Both coaches ran out to their players and rightfully so. I couldn't believe both girls came back in to the game afterwards. The impact of their hit was tremendous. Just saying too, a ref sitting in front of me (who I recognize by face since he's been the ref of many games my daughter has played in in multiple sports), voiced aloud that he couldn't believe the call wasn't for a charge
The call was a charge on Manhasset. You have to be kidding with this response. DG was on the refs all game. She should of had a jersey on she was in the field so much. After the collision she argued the call. Everyone saw it - while both players were down.
just watched the play again on MSG,at exactly 76:00 play stops and you see 3 'set coaches run to the down player, at 76:05 DG turns to the refs and says something then turns back to her girl that is being attended to by 2 coaches at 76:10, to 76:28 she again turns to the refs and says something but is done by 76:30 before the video hits 77:00 both girls are up so your complaining about one minuet Mrs. Quinn. The girl was well taken care of. I wonder why you don't say anything about only one Wantaugh coach attending to their player. As for the call, I watched it over and over in slow motion and i will say it was a tough call, The 'set player had just gained possession while in full stride and took 2 steps before the collision, the Wantaugh girl never went to play the ball and rather stepped in front of the 'set girl and just barley stopped her feet before the collision. the Wantaugh girl could/should have been called for blocking seeing as she wasn't in a set defensive position . but at full speed it's a tough call. Should have been a toss. Either way it would not have helped 'set wantaugh was the better team that night
If you reviewed the game for this you need a life
This is a lacrosse thread and the poster researched and respectfully commented on a current discussion.
You my friend need to get some help with your life and shut your pie hole.
You were so easy to hook
Wow...Mt Sinai and CSH in 4th OT tied at 9
Mt Sinai 10 - CSH 9 in 4 OT's
Wow...Mt Sinai and CSH in 4th OT tied at 9
What did number 4 on Mt. Sinai do to her stick after she scored winning goal. It looked like she pulled strings. I can remember a player in college doing that after every goal. Did anyone else see that?
Wow...Mt Sinai and CSH in 4th OT tied at 9
What did number 4 on Mt. Sinai do to her stick after she scored winning goal. It looked like she pulled strings. I can remember a player in college doing that after every goal. Did anyone else see that?
she stops celebrating fixes her strings and then again goes back to fix it...it's so obvious watch the replay on MSG Varsity
Wow...Mt Sinai and CSH in 4th OT tied at 9
What did number 4 on Mt. Sinai do to her stick after she scored winning goal. It looked like she pulled strings. I can remember a player in college doing that after every goal. Did anyone else see that?
she stops celebrating fixes her strings and then again goes back to fix it...it's so obvious watch the replay on MSG Varsity
She's been doing that for years. SMH But as was said somewhere here on BOTC everyone cheats and it's okay if you don't get caught.
Clean sweep for Suffolk girls. I guess they aren't as good as Nassau. They're better!
West Islip and ESM join Mount Sinai as long island champions.
631 sweeps the LIC.
Long Island lacrosse now goes through Suffolk county
Great crowd today for the LIC games ! I can't believe how some towns don't show up!
Final Four in Class A same teams different matchups to reach the final, as last year 1200 West Genesse vs West Islip
And Suffern vs Pittsford at 1200. Good luck to all
Saw the smack on the boys thread about Nassau sweeping Suffolk.
Well.......in Girls, Suffolk swept Nassau. OUCH!!
The downside to LI championships is that one of the two best teams in NY State has to stay home when they should compete at the States. P.S. Saw the MT Sinai CSH. Class C. One of the best , most exciting games I have seen. Both teams played hard. Unfortunately, one team had to lose
Esm v wantagh was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. The end of the first half wantagh has possession, esm goalie makes a great save with 8 seconds left then two "officials" add 8 more seconds when esm has possession? Please explain why you waited until then, especially when it was clear who you were rooting for. Changed the momentum of the game. End of the game wantagh girl is pushed in the back out of bounds and the ref awards the ball to esm. Watch the replay it is clear a foul. Icongrats to esm they were the better team last night. Wantagh will be back big next year, lots of jr and sophs. To be continued....
The downside to LI championships is that one of the two best teams in NY State has to stay home when they should compete at the States. P.S. Saw the MT Sinai CSH. Class C. One of the best , most exciting games I have seen. Both teams played hard. Unfortunately, one team had to lose
That is what makes winning the LIC so special to the kids!
Esm v wantagh was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. The end of the first half wantagh has possession, esm goalie makes a great save with 8 seconds left then two "officials" add 8 more seconds when esm has possession? Please explain why you waited until then, especially when it was clear who you were rooting for. Changed the momentum of the game. End of the game wantagh girl is pushed in the back out of bounds and the ref awards the ball to esm. Watch the replay it is clear a foul. Icongrats to esm they were the better team last night. Wantagh will be back big next year, lots of jr and sophs. To be continued....
Wantagh Parent: congrats to ESM they played a hard and fought for the Win. A lot of bad calls going both ways it's a shame when a Official not the players help decide the game. Good Luck in the States
Esm v wantagh was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. The end of the first half wantagh has possession, esm goalie makes a great save with 8 seconds left then two "officials" add 8 more seconds when esm has possession? Please explain why you waited until then, especially when it was clear who you were rooting for. Changed the momentum of the game. End of the game wantagh girl is pushed in the back out of bounds and the ref awards the ball to esm. Watch the replay it is clear a foul. Icongrats to esm they were the better team last night. Wantagh will be back big next year, lots of jr and sophs. To be continued....
Wantagh Parent: congrats to ESM they played a hard and fought for the Win. A lot of bad calls going both ways it's a shame when a Official not the players help decide the game. Good Luck in the States
Watched all three games lots of bad calls or no calls in all three games. Sitting in front of the computer you see many things you do t generally see on sidelines...head shots, loose strings getting tightened, pushing, the refs can't be everywhere but they should be paying a little more attention those refs are supposed to be the top ones. Congrats to all who played yesterday for making it that far and good luck in states to those who won!!
Esm v wantagh was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. The end of the first half wantagh has possession, esm goalie makes a great save with 8 seconds left then two "officials" add 8 more seconds when esm has possession? Please explain why you waited until then, especially when it was clear who you were rooting for. Changed the momentum of the game. End of the game wantagh girl is pushed in the back out of bounds and the ref awards the ball to esm. Watch the replay it is clear a foul. Icongrats to esm they were the better team last night. Wantagh will be back big next year, lots of jr and sophs. To be continued....
Wantagh girls swinging sticks in the last 30 seconds of the game. No calls made, just bad sportsmanship.
Where are all the Nassau fans today . so much for the , state title goes thru Set, the only good complete teams are Set and GC, those suffolk teams play weak schedules so will not be as prepared as our power conference teams, blah blah. After watching the schoolgirls tournaments the last several years and the the LIC games this year it's obvious who has the best players , true all star team on LI there would be 1-4 starters from Nassau .
I wonder why they were swinging their sticks in the last 30 seconds..could it be they were down a goal and in desperation they were trying to get the ball back? Seriously that is a stupid comment...great job ESM you played great and deserved the win
Esm v wantagh was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. The end of the first half wantagh has possession, esm goalie makes a great save with 8 seconds left then two "officials" add 8 more seconds when esm has possession? Please explain why you waited until then, especially when it was clear who you were rooting for. Changed the momentum of the game. End of the game wantagh girl is pushed in the back out of bounds and the ref awards the ball to esm. Watch the replay it is clear a foul. Icongrats to esm they were the better team last night. Wantagh will be back big next year, lots of jr and sophs. To be continued....
Wantagh girls swinging sticks in the last 30 seconds of the game. No calls made, just bad sportsmanship.
I hope the coaches and refs upstate are on top of #4 from Mt Sinai.
The questionable call at the end of the half was interesting. It seems the Wantagh goalie made a save and there was a crease violation on ESM but they did not stop the clock. Wantagh rushed downfield and took a shot with 8 seconds left. Giacolone made a great save and was interfered with in the crease. They stop the clock and had a conference. They added 8 seconds to the clock. How can this be done? The time should have been added before Wantagh started the possession. Wantagh rushes to take a shot but time is added way after the fact. Did anyone else see it this way? This is not to take anything away from ESM they were outstanding, congratulations on a big win
Esm v wantagh was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. The end of the first half wantagh has possession, esm goalie makes a great save with 8 seconds left then two "officials" add 8 more seconds when esm has possession? Please explain why you waited until then, especially when it was clear who you were rooting for. Changed the momentum of the game. End of the game wantagh girl is pushed in the back out of bounds and the ref awards the ball to esm. Watch the replay it is clear a foul. Icongrats to esm they were the better team last night. Wantagh will be back big next year, lots of jr and sophs. To be continued....
Wantagh Parent: congrats to ESM they played a hard and fought for the Win. A lot of bad calls going both ways it's a shame when a Official not the players help decide the game. Good Luck in the States
Watched all three games lots of bad calls or no calls in all three games. Sitting in front of the computer you see many things you do t generally see on sidelines...head shots, loose strings getting tightened, pushing, the refs can't be everywhere but they should be paying a little more attention those refs are supposed to be the top ones. Congrats to all who played yesterday for making it that far and good luck in states to those who won!!
How many refs on the field 2 or 3?
I know US lacrosse recommends three, but we normally play with two on LI due to cost
I posted last year how the Yellow Jacket Class of 2013 did in terms of playing time with their respective college teams. Now that 2015 has passed by the class is now two years into their college careers. the following is my non-scientific findings. Remember this is not a test of quality but how each girl has impacted the playing time for their restive teams. This covers D1, D2 and D3.
I have four categories: Impact (played in almost all games), Played (played in a significant number of games), Not Significant (played in a handful of games) and Did Not Play (had no statistics for team they committed to; I also checked to see if playing for a different school).
A refresher of last years numbers:
Impact: 30 or 45%
Played: 7 or 11%
Not Significant: 24 or 36%
Did Not Play: 5 or 8%
2015 Numbers
Impact: 37 or 56%
Played: 8 or 12%
Not Significant: 8 or 12%
Did Not Play: 13 or 20%
33 players stayed at the same level, 14 saw less playing time, 19 saw more.
These are very good numbers. The average drop rate for D1 is 55% (players who do not stay on the roster for four years). Still, there was a significant number of girls who no longer play (or may red shirt if they changed schools). Check the thread out in a year to see how the class is doing!
(I'm going to post this on other threads as well)
I wonder why they were swinging their sticks in the last 30 seconds..could it be they were down a goal and in desperation they were trying to get the ball back? Seriously that is a stupid comment...great job ESM you played great and deserved the win
Desperation is an excuse for dangerous behavior?
I posted last year how the Yellow Jacket Class of 2013 did in terms of playing time with their respective college teams. Now that 2015 has passed by the class is now two years into their college careers. the following is my non-scientific findings. Remember this is not a test of quality but how each girl has impacted the playing time for their restive teams. This covers D1, D2 and D3.
I have four categories: Impact (played in almost all games), Played (played in a significant number of games), Not Significant (played in a handful of games) and Did Not Play (had no statistics for team they committed to; I also checked to see if playing for a different school).
A refresher of last years numbers:
Impact: 30 or 45%
Played: 7 or 11%
Not Significant: 24 or 36%
Did Not Play: 5 or 8%
2015 Numbers
Impact: 37 or 56%
Played: 8 or 12%
Not Significant: 8 or 12%
Did Not Play: 13 or 20%
33 players stayed at the same level, 14 saw less playing time, 19 saw more.
These are very good numbers. The average drop rate for D1 is 55% (players who do not stay on the roster for four years). Still, there was a significant number of girls who no longer play (or may red shirt if they changed schools). Check the thread out in a year to see how the class is doing!
(I'm going to post this on other threads as well)
that's great for other parents to see what actually goes on...what are the stats for the class of 2014 I wonder!!
Who does Mt Sinai play first round of states??
Just curious....who submits names for Top 150 girls lax players on LI because they definitely got it wrong at our HS! Just in case your wondering- Suffolk Division 1 school
I posted last year how the Yellow Jacket Class of 2013 did in terms of playing time with their respective college teams. Now that 2015 has passed by the class is now two years into their college careers. the following is my non-scientific findings. Remember this is not a test of quality but how each girl has impacted the playing time for their restive teams. This covers D1, D2 and D3.
I have four categories: Impact (played in almost all games), Played (played in a significant number of games), Not Significant (played in a handful of games) and Did Not Play (had no statistics for team they committed to; I also checked to see if playing for a different school).
A refresher of last years numbers:
Impact: 30 or 45%
Played: 7 or 11%
Not Significant: 24 or 36%
Did Not Play: 5 or 8%
2015 Numbers
Impact: 37 or 56%
Played: 8 or 12%
Not Significant: 8 or 12%
Did Not Play: 13 or 20%
33 players stayed at the same level, 14 saw less playing time, 19 saw more.
These are very good numbers. The average drop rate for D1 is 55% (players who do not stay on the roster for four years). Still, there was a significant number of girls who no longer play (or may red shirt if they changed schools). Check the thread out in a year to see how the class is doing!
(I'm going to post this on other threads as well)
Thank you Bald Bear! The 55% number for D1 players not staying on roster ... Where does that statistic come from? Thanks this is very interesting!
Just curious....who submits names for Top 150 girls lax players on LI because they definitely got it wrong at our HS! Just in case your wondering- Suffolk Division 1 school
Most of list is right, some of the fringe is off meaningless stat building on bad teams and your summer affiliation because if you play for the ABC club team you must be good.
Mount Sinai plays @ 9:30 against Skaneatele who is the defending state champs
West Islip plays @ 12:00 against West Genesse who is the defending state champs
ESM plays @ 2:30 against Watertown Manhasset won it last year.
Good luck to all lets get it done!
Just curious....who submits names for Top 150 girls lax players on LI because they definitely got it wrong at our HS! Just in case your wondering- Suffolk Division 1 school
Most of list is right, some of the fringe is off meaningless stat building on bad teams and your summer affiliation because if you play for the ABC club team you must be good.
I absolutely agree most of the list is correct. I was just wondering if it was submitted by your HS coaches because the girls chosen from daughters HS should not have been on list over other girls
Just curious....who submits names for Top 150 girls lax players on LI because they definitely got it wrong at our HS! Just in case your wondering- Suffolk Division 1 school
Most of list is right, some of the fringe is off meaningless stat building on bad teams and your summer affiliation because if you play for the ABC club team you must be good.
I absolutely agree most of the list is correct. I was just wondering if it was submitted by your HS coaches because the girls chosen from daughters HS should not have been on list over other girls
Our HS coach mentioned that he was contacted by Newsday and he provided names.
Just curious....who submits names for Top 150 girls lax players on LI because they definitely got it wrong at our HS! Just in case your wondering- Suffolk Division 1 school
Most of list is right, some of the fringe is off meaningless stat building on bad teams and your summer affiliation because if you play for the ABC club team you must be good.
I absolutely agree most of the list is correct. I was just wondering if it was submitted by your HS coaches because the girls chosen from daughters HS should not have been on list over other girls
Our HS coach mentioned that he was contacted by Newsday and he provided names.
Thank you. That is what I thought. Disappointed the coach can not be truthful about her seniors level of play.
That's why some on the list don't belong. Can you hear your HS coach saying, sorry newsday we don't have a top 150 player, but thanks for calling
A clean sweep for Suffolk? When handicapping I would not have picked it that way. Surprising. Congrats
Maybe that Nassau Super League which I like takes a toll on all the teams competing in it? Every game is difficult does it prepare you better or do you get beat up physically over the course of the season? How do you get your subs playing time when every game is tough ? It seemed like the Class A Nassau teams took the biggest beating and it showed in the LIC. Any thoughts?
Maybe that Nassau Super League which I like takes a toll on all the teams competing in it? Every game is difficult does it prepare you better or do you get beat up physically over the course of the season? How do you get your subs playing time when every game is tough ? It seemed like the Class A Nassau teams took the biggest beating and it showed in the LIC. Any thoughts?
But the alternative is play in B and win all your league games by 10 playing a deeper bench, lose all your non conference games and then get bounced in the playoffs 1st round
Maybe that Nassau Super League which I like takes a toll on all the teams competing in it? Every game is difficult does it prepare you better or do you get beat up physically over the course of the season? How do you get your subs playing time when every game is tough ? It seemed like the Class A Nassau teams took the biggest beating and it showed in the LIC. Any thoughts?
But the alternative is play in B and win all your league games by 10 playing a deeper bench, lose all your non conference games and then get bounced in the playoffs 1st round
No Shame in losing an L.I.C., after four years of Varsity lax my daughters H.S. team has never done better than 6 wins, with not a sniff of a playoff game.. i'm jealous of all the losers
Maybe that Nassau Super League which I like takes a toll on all the teams competing in it? Every game is difficult does it prepare you better or do you get beat up physically over the course of the season? How do you get your subs playing time when every game is tough ? It seemed like the Class A Nassau teams took the biggest beating and it showed in the LIC. Any thoughts?
Wouldn't it make sense for all the teams (Boys, girls, nassau, suffolk) to be grouped in divisions, by their ability, as opposed to enrollment numbers? Just like they do with travel soccer? I never understood why you'd set it up based on the size of the school. Should teams like Mt. Sinai and ESM be playing W.I. and W.M.?
Also, then when they play the other county, they're matched up better, right? Am I missing something?
The rest of the state would have to follow that format for it to work.
The rest of the state would have to follow that format for it to work.
Would make sense though right? So right now, Nassau sets up their divisions by ability, and then when they play Suffolk, for the LI champs, they set the matchups based strictly on enrollment?
WI - no 7th graders, no 8th graders & no 9th graders - that's how you build a program
Maybe that Nassau Super League which I like takes a toll on all the teams competing in it? Every game is difficult does it prepare you better or do you get beat up physically over the course of the season? How do you get your subs playing time when every game is tough ? It seemed like the Class A Nassau teams took the biggest beating and it showed in the LIC. Any thoughts?
Super League? Nassau really needs a dose of reality. Suffolk division 2 is probably an over all tougher league. Nassau's top 4 are very good, but obviously Mt.Sinai and ESM are right there with them and there are probably another 5-8 teams better than Syosset (Nassau's fifth best team). If you include Suffolk division 1 you can probably add another 3 or 4 teams.
Before the LIC the Nassau sentiment was that the Suffolk teams played a weak schedule , so they wouldn't be as prepared, now the sentiment is that the hard scheduled exhausted the teams? lol C'mon Man!!!!
There are good teams on both sides of 110! It's ok to admit it!
Yes obviously they set their playoffs up on enrollment A, B,C then follow the rest of the state throughout the playoffs. I'm pretty sure but not positive that all the schools in the super conference make their respective playoffs can someone who knows for sure answer that. Lacrosse ability has nothing to do with enrollment numbers on Long Island the small schools in both boys and girls are competitive throughout the conferences as well as the state. We should all be very proud of our children they make it happen. And as parents we are pretty good at letting everyone else know how good we are. That's where the problems stem from!
Just curious....who submits names for Top 150 girls lax players on LI because they definitely got it wrong at our HS! Just in case your wondering- Suffolk Division 1 school
Most of list is right, some of the fringe is off meaningless stat building on bad teams and your summer affiliation because if you play for the ABC club team you must be good.
I absolutely agree most of the list is correct. I was just wondering if it was submitted by your HS coaches because the girls chosen from daughters HS should not have been on list over other girls
Our HS coach mentioned that he was contacted by Newsday and he provided names.
Thank you. That is what I thought. Disappointed the coach can not be truthful about her seniors level of play.
We have a coach like that. Makes all the seniors captains and gives any award to the older players. Just tooooooo lazy to think. Sad!
Yes obviously they set their playoffs up on enrollment A, B,C then follow the rest of the state throughout the playoffs. I'm pretty sure but not positive that all the schools in the super conference make their respective playoffs can someone who knows for sure answer that. Lacrosse ability has nothing to do with enrollment numbers on Long Island the small schools in both boys and girls are competitive throughout the conferences as well as the state. We should all be very proud of our children they make it happen. And as parents we are pretty good at letting everyone else know how good we are. That's where the problems stem from!
They should do it like New Jersey does with an end of year Tournament of Champions - take the LIC's from A, B and C along with the Catholic School Champ and have everyone play each other.
I'd also like to see the other teams from Westchester, etc have to play a LI team in the quarter finals rather than having 1 LI team always knocked out of the states.
Their goalie is a 9th grader lol. And they have other 9th graders. They don't need to pull up middle school girls. They have a big enough pool to pick from.
WI - no 7th graders, no 8th graders & no 9th graders - that's how you build a program
Except for the past several years when they did have them playing varsity which made those kids better players and made your team what it is today . WI will suck in 2 years .
I posted last year how the Yellow Jacket Class of 2013 did in terms of playing time with their respective college teams. Now that 2015 has passed by the class is now two years into their college careers. the following is my non-scientific findings. Remember this is not a test of quality but how each girl has impacted the playing time for their restive teams. This covers D1, D2 and D3.
I have four categories: Impact (played in almost all games), Played (played in a significant number of games), Not Significant (played in a handful of games) and Did Not Play (had no statistics for team they committed to; I also checked to see if playing for a different school).
A refresher of last years numbers:
Impact: 30 or 45%
Played: 7 or 11%
Not Significant: 24 or 36%
Did Not Play: 5 or 8%
2015 Numbers
Impact: 37 or 56%
Played: 8 or 12%
Not Significant: 8 or 12%
Did Not Play: 13 or 20%
33 players stayed at the same level, 14 saw less playing time, 19 saw more.
These are very good numbers. The average drop rate for D1 is 55% (players who do not stay on the roster for four years). Still, there was a significant number of girls who no longer play (or may red shirt if they changed schools). Check the thread out in a year to see how the class is doing!
(I'm going to post this on other threads as well)
Thank you Bald Bear! The 55% number for D1 players not staying on roster ... Where does that statistic come from? Thanks this is very interesting!
That is the result of a 15 year study which concluded last year but will continue moving forward. The number went over 50% about two years ago and continues to edge upward. There are many theories for the increased number; the growth of the sport may be factor; more teams means more students but possibly a higher burn rate. Another is the rise of club teams over high school teams.
Don't forget that roster sizes are creeping up.
So you come out of club as a stud, get to a large rostered college team and don't get meaningful minutes. Then they walk away for school internships and quality of life.
Same reason kids walk away in HS, everyone wants to PLAY and if you get settle in to only a practice player that's why many walk
WI - no 7th graders, no 8th graders & no 9th graders - that's how you build a program
Except for the past several years when they did have them playing varsity which made those kids better players and made your team what it is today . WI will suck in 2 years .
Should be some great weather in Cortland this weekend!
WI - no 7th graders, no 8th graders & no 9th graders - that's how you build a program
Except for the past several years when they did have them playing varsity which made those kids better players and made your team what it is today . WI will suck in 2 years .
West Islip goalie is a 9th grader. Other 9th graders on the team also but they don't get much time
Should be some great weather in Cortland this weekend!
Couple of things I want to touch on.
1-Good luck to the LI girls this weekend! Like someone said, it's too bad that Nassau and Suffolk play for one spot in the states. From the sound of it, all 3 LIC matches were great games and any of the six teams would represent LI well.
2-As for a super league in Suffolk, I said this before and I'll say it again... rather than a super league make a non playoff league with the bottom 4 D1 and D2 teams in it and let them play each other home and away with the top 4 teams going back into D1 and D2 and the 4 teams in D1 and D2 with the worst record going to the non playoff league the next year. There will still be some blowouts, but nowhere near as many.
Normally I would be rooting for every LI team in the States as I do every year. However, this year I will be rooting for West Islip and ESM only. Mount Sinai is not a team I can root for. Their tactics and the way they play the game are atrocious. They don't play on the edge - they play over the edge. Watch any of their games and you will see how they are constantly cheating and breaking the rules.
I'm not a Mount Sinai guy but I caught most of that game & have to applaud the goalie she made a few saves at the end of the game that left you shaking your head simply amazing. Great job kiddo. Some of the best saves I've seen at any level or sport. The officials need to be more on top of the game, both teams played hard and whether or not she pulled the strings she did run about 80 yards and finished. Again why wasn't a stick check called and why wasn't the official watching her? Go ask one of them.
I'm not a Mount Sinai guy but I caught most of that game & have to applaud the goalie she made a few saves at the end of the game that left you shaking your head simply amazing. Great job kiddo. Some of the best saves I've seen at any level or sport. The officials need to be more on top of the game, both teams played hard and whether or not she pulled the strings she did run about 80 yards and finished. Again why wasn't a stick check called and why wasn't the official watching her? Go ask one of them.
They already did a stick check on her earlier and her stick was legal. I also think CSH was out of stick checks. When I read the post, I was thinking the same thing, after watching the great saves by the goalie and an 80 plus yard burst past the whole team, u are worried about her stick? Didn't look like her stick had anything to do with CSH not being able to stop her! As a fan. That was a great game by both teams!
West Islip msy not be on top in 2 years but they will be in Cortland this weekend, where will you be?
Sounds like someone is not happy well too bad!!!!!!
Good luck to the teams headed upstate! Very exciting! Question...can anyone tell me anything about the Smithtown East program? I know there was some rumblings with parents but what about Coaches? Players? Debating on private/catholic school and just would like to be well informed! Thanks.
Couple of things I want to touch on.
1-Good luck to the LI girls this weekend! Like someone said, it's too bad that Nassau and Suffolk play for one spot in the states. From the sound of it, all 3 LIC matches were great games and any of the six teams would represent LI well.
2-As for a super league in Suffolk, I said this before and I'll say it again... rather than a super league make a non playoff league with the bottom 4 D1 and D2 teams in it and let them play each other home and away with the top 4 teams going back into D1 and D2 and the 4 teams in D1 and D2 with the worst record going to the non playoff league the next year. There will still be some blowouts, but nowhere near as many.
Not sure the difference.
Let them play 12 league games and 4 non league. Let them play neighboring towns let them play cross county let them play a westchester and out of state team.
I'm not a Mount Sinai guy but I caught most of that game & have to applaud the goalie she made a few saves at the end of the game that left you shaking your head simply amazing. Great job kiddo. Some of the best saves I've seen at any level or sport. The officials need to be more on top of the game, both teams played hard and whether or not she pulled the strings she did run about 80 yards and finished. Again why wasn't a stick check called and why wasn't the official watching her? Go ask one of them.
They already did a stick check on her earlier and her stick was legal. I also think CSH was out of stick checks. When I read the post, I was thinking the same thing, after watching the great saves by the goalie and an 80 plus yard burst past the whole team, u are worried about her stick? Didn't look like her stick had anything to do with CSH not being able to stop her! As a fan. That was a great game by both teams!
Right before they did the first stick check on her she had already pulled her string and it was too late. That is also on film and clear to see. She scores - and immediately pulls her strings. It happened multiple times.
I'm not a Mount Sinai guy but I caught most of that game & have to applaud the goalie she made a few saves at the end of the game that left you shaking your head simply amazing. Great job kiddo. Some of the best saves I've seen at any level or sport. The officials need to be more on top of the game, both teams played hard and whether or not she pulled the strings she did run about 80 yards and finished. Again why wasn't a stick check called and why wasn't the official watching her? Go ask one of them.
They already did a stick check on her earlier and her stick was legal. I also think CSH was out of stick checks. When I read the post, I was thinking the same thing, after watching the great saves by the goalie and an 80 plus yard burst past the whole team, u are worried about her stick? Didn't look like her stick had anything to do with CSH not being able to stop her! As a fan. That was a great game by both teams!
Right before they did the first stick check on her she had already pulled her string and it was too late. That is also on film and clear to see. She scores - and immediately pulls her strings. It happened multiple times.
Coaches are allowed unlimited stick checks. the first two are free without card . After the second stick check if you are wrong the other team gets possession of the ball no draw.
West islip wins their semi final game 10-5! See ya tomorrow
I'm not a Mount Sinai guy but I caught most of that game & have to applaud the goalie she made a few saves at the end of the game that left you shaking your head simply amazing. Great job kiddo. Some of the best saves I've seen at any level or sport. The officials need to be more on top of the game, both teams played hard and whether or not she pulled the strings she did run about 80 yards and finished. Again why wasn't a stick check called and why wasn't the official watching her? Go ask one of them.
They already did a stick check on her earlier and her stick was legal. I also think CSH was out of stick checks. When I read the post, I was thinking the same thing, after watching the great saves by the goalie and an 80 plus yard burst past the whole team, u are worried about her stick? Didn't look like her stick had anything to do with CSH not being able to stop her! As a fan. That was a great game by both teams!
Right before they did the first stick check on her she had already pulled her string and it was too late. That is also on film and clear to see. She scores - and immediately pulls her strings. It happened multiple times.
Coaches are allowed unlimited stick checks. the first two are free without card . After the second stick check if you are wrong the other team gets possession of the ball no draw.
Listen.
There were officials at the game and not one of them including the bench official made any call. This girl has been taking arrows in the back shot from parents on here for years.
Let it go.
No more derogatory posts aimed at this kid will be allowed moving forward. Enough is enough. She is a great player and if you can't handle losing take it out on someone other than a HS player.
I'm not a Mount Sinai guy but I caught most of that game & have to applaud the goalie she made a few saves at the end of the game that left you shaking your head simply amazing. Great job kiddo. Some of the best saves I've seen at any level or sport. The officials need to be more on top of the game, both teams played hard and whether or not she pulled the strings she did run about 80 yards and finished. Again why wasn't a stick check called and why wasn't the official watching her? Go ask one of them.
They already did a stick check on her earlier and her stick was legal. I also think CSH was out of stick checks. When I read the post, I was thinking the same thing, after watching the great saves by the goalie and an 80 plus yard burst past the whole team, u are worried about her stick? Didn't look like her stick had anything to do with CSH not being able to stop her! As a fan. That was a great game by both teams!
Right before they did the first stick check on her she had already pulled her string and it was too late. That is also on film and clear to see. She scores - and immediately pulls her strings. It happened multiple times.
Coaches are allowed unlimited stick checks. the first two are free without card . After the second stick check if you are wrong the other team gets possession of the ball no draw.
Listen.
There were officials at the game and not one of them including the bench official made any call. This girl has been taking arrows in the back shot from parents on here for years.
Let it go.
No more derogatory posts aimed at this kid will be allowed moving forward. Enough is enough. She is a great player and if you can't handle losing take it out on someone other than a HS player.
Thank You.
Good luck today to al three Suffolk teams playing today for States!!
ESM..... W I..... Mt Sinai
Two down one to go. Way to go girls.
Mt Sinai and West Islip are State Champions!! Complete the 631 sweep ESM!
Wow!! That is awesome!!!!
Clean sweep for Suffolk Girls in the States!!!!!!!!
Congrats to:
Class A Champion West Islip.
Class B Champion ESM
Class C Champion Mt. Sinai
Fantastic! Congratulations!!!!
Clean sweep for Suffolk Girls in the States!!!!!!!!
Congrats to:
Class A Champion West Islip.
Class B Champion ESM
Class C Champion Mt. Sinai
I am guessing that would be the first time ever for Suffolk. You can attribute this largely due to the increased travel club presence in Suffolk. Yellow jackets, top guns and the growing club sizes leads to a ton of girls raising their level of play. Suffolk- the new hot bed for girls lacrosse!
Clean sweep for Suffolk Girls in the States!!!!!!!!
Congrats to:
Class A Champion West Islip.
Class B Champion ESM
Class C Champion Mt. Sinai
I am guessing that would be the first time ever for Suffolk. You can attribute this largely due to the increased travel club presence in Suffolk. Yellow jackets, top guns and the growing club sizes leads to a ton of girls raising their level of play. Suffolk- the new hot bed for girls lacrosse!
This is the first time since they changed to 3 divisions that all 3 were won by teams from the same section.
Great job class A,B,C! Great lax and great coaches!!!!
One of the greatest thing from yesterday was the resect all three Suffolk teams had for each other! As M S was finishing off their gam WI girls were chanting 631...631. As W I was finishing their game the ESM team and fans did the same . And W I chanted it to ESM as they were warming up!
631...631...631!!!!!!!!
Very impressive! Congrats to all the winners! Go Suffolk!
How was the Section awards dinner last night?
Congrats to all the girls
How was the Section awards dinner last night?
The best part for me was when ESM got called up for the County,Long Isand and State Championship awards and the entire team showed up to receive the awards, very classy and you guys made a great statement to everyone. Way to go ESM from WI. 6-3-1 a weekend we will all cherish!
Totally agree with last post... very classy ESM! From a Mt Sinai parent. 6-3-1! Amazing weekend for ALL three teams!!
Girls all americans and academic all americans up on uslacrosse.org congrats to all the winners
Congratulations to the All Americans that were announced yesterday,
Especially, the highly intelligent girls that made the US Lacrosse All Academic Team.
This highly touted award will stay with these girls forever, and is far more useful than any other award achieved during their high school careers.
Anypne who replies to a post like that must be bitter the awards these girls achieve shoul all be praised on the field and off just because someone does not have over a 95 average that does not diminish thei accomplishments
And a BIG SHOUT OUT to those girls that were named to BOTH the All American AND the All Academic squads… excellence on the field AND in the classroom!!!!
You know what award means the most The State Championship. 6-3-1. It's prestigious because 25 girls believe in themselves, their teammates and their coaches and they earned it for each other and nobody else. You may have a few smiling faces for the AA awards but you have 25 priceless expressions for winning the State. Congratulations to all all AA awards were well deserved and earned with years of hardwork and dedication. Well done and looking forward to seeing them all at the next level.
You know what award means the most The State Championship. 6-3-1. It's prestigious because 25 girls believe in themselves, their teammates and their coaches and they earned it for each other and nobody else. You may have a few smiling faces for the AA awards but you have 25 priceless expressions for winning the State. Congratulations to all all AA awards were well deserved and earned with years of hardwork and dedication. Well done and looking forward to seeing them all at the next level.
Amen!! I'm a 516-er, but I am so proud of our LI girls for showing NY what's up! You all should be very proud of yourselves!
Wow, why can't you people just be happy for all the girls' great accomplishments? Does one award have to be better than another? Do you really need to diminish someone else's achievements to feel better about yourselves? Let's not forget you're talking about kids who have achieved wonderful things in their short lives. Be happy for them!
Now that we are done....after speaking with well over 2 dozen coaches..we are committed to a mid level D1 program. Lax has played a very significant role in our lives for the last 7 years...but the one thing that almost all the coaches and AD's stressed is their connection with and desire for the girls in 631 & 516. Also big time interest in the Maryland schools...(don't know their zip codes)
631, 631, 631 this year...next year it could easily be 516!
All teams should be commended!
Wow, why can't you people just be happy for all the girls' great accomplishments? Does one award have to be better than another? Do you really need to diminish someone else's achievements to feel better about yourselves? Let's not forget you're talking about kids who have achieved wonderful things in their short lives. Be happy for them!
No one is diminishing anyones achievements learn how to read then learn how to comprehend. Its really pretty simple and you should be able to figure it out.
If your daughter is chosen to move up to varsity in ninth grade but you're pretty sure she won't see much playing time is it the right move ? Is it worth practicing with the varsity girls every day or would you encourage her to stay on JV where she will get playing time With the hope that she will get pulled up the following year
If your daughter is chosen to move up to varsity in ninth grade but you're pretty sure she won't see much playing time is it the right move ? Is it worth practicing with the varsity girls every day or would you encourage her to stay on JV where she will get playing time With the hope that she will get pulled up the following year
Stay on JV and play!!
Is she physically and mentally able to play with 18 year olds? A lot more goes on both on and off the field at the varsity level that your child and the parents have to handle. Is the team tight knit and the coaches good? Ask yourself these questions before deciding some parents do not want their 14 year olds doing 18 year old things. Will it make her a better player I think it depends on the coaches and how are the JV coaches? If the JV coaches are weak then the move to varsity is warranted cause when she does get playing time she will know what the varsity coaches expect. Give it a lot of thought though.
If your daughter is chosen to move up to varsity in ninth grade but you're pretty sure she won't see much playing time is it the right move ? Is it worth practicing with the varsity girls every day or would you encourage her to stay on JV where she will get playing time With the hope that she will get pulled up the following year
Depends on what your daughter is looking for and what makes her happy - playing time or bragging rights. If HS will be the end of lax for her, I would say play as much as she can now. If she is hoping to play in college, might be worth working with the more advanced girls every day and sacrificing game days for a year. It's really a personal decision.
Thank you those are some very good points I agree with not necessarily wanting my van 15-year-old to be exposed to some 18-year-old things Coaches are excellent on both JV and varsity level so it might just be something they sees in her but she doesn't want bragging rights just to say she's on varsity she actually wants to play so we will have to see what happens Marcy to be
Thank you those are some very good points I agree with not necessarily wanting my van 15-year-old to be exposed to some 18-year-old things Coaches are excellent on both JV and varsity level so it might just be something they sees in her but she doesn't want bragging rights just to say she's on varsity she actually wants to play so we will have to see what happens Marcy to be
Have you had a talk with the Coach and voiced your concerns. If they are good Coaches they will speak with you.
Congrats to Girls Long Island Under Armour Underclass Team.
Name Grad-Year High -School -Hometown -Position
Alyssa Adamo 2016 St. Anthony's Bohemia, NY Defense
Shannon Berry 2018 Ward Melville Setauket, NY Defense
Charlotte Campbell 2016 St. Anthony's Lloyd Harbor, NY Goalie
Kaitlyn Cerasi 2016 Wantagh Wantagh, NY Attack
Vanessa Costantino 2016 West Isip West Islip, NY Mid-Field
Samantha DeBellis 2016 Cold Spring Harbor Cold Spring Harbor, NY Attack
Kerry Defliese 2016 Garden City Garden City, NY Mid-Field
Samantha Geiersbach 2016 West Babylon West Babylon, NY Attack
Katie Hoeg 2016 Mattituck Mattituck, NY Attack
Madison Hoffer 2016 Sachem North Holbrook, NY Defense
Kate Hudson 2016 Cold Spring Harbor Cold Spring Harbor, NY Defense
Kelsey Huff 2017 Eastport-South Manor Eastport, NY Mid-Field
Shannon Kavanagh 2017 Smithtown East St. James, NY Mid-Field
Allison Kennedy 2016 North Babylon North Babylon, NY Mid-Field
Taylor Moreno 2016 Huntington Huntington, NY Goalie
Taryn Ohlmiller 2016 Islip Islip, NY Attack
Jamie Ortega 2017 Centereach Centereach, NY Attack
Catherine Reilly 2016 Huntington Huntington Station, NY Mid-Field
Madison Rielly 2018 Friends Academy Plandome, NY Attack
Rachel Rosen 2017 Paul D. Schreiber Port Washington Port Washington, NY Mid-Field
Olivia Smith 2017 St. Anthony's Port Washington, NY Defense
Sophia Triandafils 2017 Shoreham Wading River Wading River, NY Mid-Field
Cara Trombetta 2016 Sachem High School East Holbrook, NY Defense
Vanessa Yu 2016 Oyster Bay Oyster Bay, NY Mid-Field
congratulations to Coach Thorn of ESM - Tri state and Long Island coach of the year!
congratulations to Coach Thorn of ESM - Tri state and Long Island coach of the year!
what a great year for ESM congratulations to Coach Becky Thorn. What a huge accomplishment!!
Regarding ESM..She must be real good, gets a lot out of many of the girls on the team...not just the coaches select few (stat padders). She has developed a TEAM with substantial depth..good for her and ESM..
Can someone explain to me why S A from West Babylon is missing from the all-long island girls?
No Manhasset girls with all those All Americans and All Long Island team players. What's up?
Can someone explain to me why S A from West Babylon is missing from the all-long island girls?
She made team Missed picture but is listed in Bios. Would have been nice to mention she missed picture
congratulations to Coach Thorn of ESM - Tri state and Long Island coach of the year!
what a great year for ESM congratulations to Coach Becky Thorn. What a huge accomplishment!!
Not bad for a nasty bully!
Senior Under Armour All American Girls from Long Island playing for the North Team.
Congrats on the highest Under Armour honor!!
Quite impressive to have 7 LI girls on this most prestigious team made up of the best girls lacrosse players in the country!!!! LI is proud of you!!!!
Kristen Adams, Garden City, Defense, UPenn
Lauren Daly, Shoreham Wading River, Goalie, Boston College
Kathryn Hallett , Manhasset, Midfield, Princeton
Nicole Levy, East Islip, Attack, Syracuse
Holly Logan, Cold Spring Harbor, Midfield, Johns Hopkins
Samantha Lynch, Huntington, Midfield, Notre Dame
Sydney Pirreca, Mount Sinai, Midfield, Florida
Most of the girls you mentioned are Seniors. Next year will be a reloading year unless some girls really step up their game.
No Manhasset girls with all those All Americans and All Long Island team players. What's up?
Most of the girls you mentioned are Seniors. Next year will be a reloading year unless some girls really step up their game.
No Manhasset girls with all those All Americans and All Long Island team players. What's up?
You must be missing something there are Manhasset girls on these teams. One exception the Underclass team a player who would have sure made it was injured and did not try out
Great for them, hopefully they don't wash out of the lax program after a year or two like 50% do.
Will they be able to maintain their GPA's so that they can be Top Guns and Yellowjackets coaches for their careers?
Why are two Girls from GC on the New England Under Armour Team?
I did not GC was considered part of New England.
ELIGIBILITY: Boys and girls who, in July 2015, will have just completed their freshman (grad. year - 2018), sophomore (grad year- 2017) or junior (grad year- 2016) high school season. You must live within the geographic region* for the team you are trying out for and be in good academic standing.
Maybe they are sick of the LI politics?
Maybe they tried out for Long Island team and had a bad tryout so did not make team . It's a ridiculous and desperate move by a couple egomaniacs who could not stand that other kids were more deserving . Sets a very bad precedent going forward , watch CR take advantage of this in coming years and have all her YJ kids try out for New England just to stick it to some LI coaches she does not like .
Maybe they are sick of the LI politics?
We all are but to think your special and violate the tryout terms is a great lesson to teach your child. You couldn't make here so go somewhere else and ruin another girls chance. Nice way to represent Long Island and your hometown. (Oh I know they own ski houses in New England)
[quote=Anonymous]Maybe they are sick of the LI politics?
We all are but to think your special and violate the tryout terms is a great lesson to teach your child. You couldn't make here so go somewhere else and ruin another girls chance. Nice way to represent Long Island and your hometown. (Oh I know they own ski houses in New England) [/quote
Maybe they do have ski houses but it still violates the rules and guarantee you that the UA people do not know the real reason these ego maniacs did what they did . Read the rules and its a clear violation , hopefully comes back to bite them .
Have a safe trip and good luck this weekend all those traveling to Towson for games ,represent Long Island well.
Have a safe trip and good luck this weekend all those traveling to Towson for games ,represent Long Island well.
And New England
Have a safe trip and good luck this weekend all those traveling to Towson for games ,represent Long Island well.
And New England
I dont agree with LI girls trying out and playing for a different region either..but to each their own..
I imagine it will be a little awkward when they bump into their freinds and club/HS teamates on team LI while wearing New England uni's
or maybe its just us parents that care..
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
How can UA allow kids to tryout in multiple regions? It is against their own rules? What are we teaching our kids - you did not make the LI team, so let's tryout again for another region and hopefully you will make a different team.
Lastly, why would a girl who is already committed to college go to another region?
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
How can UA allow kids to tryout in multiple regions? It is against their own rules? What are we teaching our kids - you did not make the LI team, so let's tryout again for another region and hopefully you will make a different team.
Lastly, why would a girl who is already committed to college go to another region?
I guess she wants to play...
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
I can't answer for UA. I also don't know why you're so hot under the collar about this. UA has farmed out their tryouts in such a way that they became incredibly political, so it's not like they're all that concerned about who tries out where. It's a money maker, remember.
As for why a commit would go, really? Perhaps so she can put UA All-American on her resume. It's a huge coup to make it.
How can UA allow kids to tryout in multiple regions? It is against their own rules? What are we teaching our kids - you did not make the LI team, so let's tryout again for another region and hopefully you will make a different team.
Lastly, why would a girl who is already committed to college go to another region?
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
I can't answer for UA. I also don't know why you're so hot under the collar about this. UA has farmed out their tryouts in such a way that they became incredibly political, so it's not like they're all that concerned about who tries out where. It's a money maker, remember.
As for why a commit would go, really? Perhaps so she can put UA All-American on her resume. It's a huge coup to make it.
How can UA allow kids to tryout in multiple regions? It is against their own rules? What are we teaching our kids - you did not make the LI team, so let's tryout again for another region and hopefully you will make a different team.
Lastly, why would a girl who is already committed to college go to another region?
Not sure it is a huge coup when it is highly politicized and tainted in the selection process. If it was a fair tryout- which we all know will never happen- then it is a huge coup. For now, it is a resume stat that you pay a lot of money to attend.
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
I can't answer for UA. I also don't know why you're so hot under the collar about this. UA has farmed out their tryouts in such a way that they became incredibly political, so it's not like they're all that concerned about who tries out where. It's a money maker, remember.
As for why a commit would go, really? Perhaps so she can put UA All-American on her resume. It's a huge coup to make it.
How can UA allow kids to tryout in multiple regions? It is against their own rules? What are we teaching our kids - you did not make the LI team, so let's tryout again for another region and hopefully you will make a different team.
Lastly, why would a girl who is already committed to college go to another region?
Not sure it is a huge coup when it is highly politicized and tainted in the selection process. If it was a fair tryout- which we all know will never happen- then it is a huge coup. For now, it is a resume stat that you pay a 7lot of money to attend.
Haha, touche. Valid point.
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
I can't answer for UA. I also don't know why you're so hot under the collar about this. UA has farmed out their tryouts in such a way that they became incredibly political, so it's not like they're all that concerned about who tries out where. It's a money maker, remember.
As for why a commit would go, really? Perhaps so she can put UA All-American on her resume. It's a huge coup to make it.
How can UA allow kids to tryout in multiple regions? It is against their own rules? What are we teaching our kids - you did not make the LI team, so let's tryout again for another region and hopefully you will make a different team.
Lastly, why would a girl who is already committed to college go to another region?
Not sure it is a huge coup when it is highly politicized and tainted in the selection process. If it was a fair tryout- which we all know will never happen- then it is a huge coup. For now, it is a resume stat that you pay a lot of money to attend.
What was not fair about the tryout?
Did the coaches select a large number of girls who play for their high school or club teams?
Who were the evaluators?
Were all of the evaluators from the same club?
Did the evaluators select a large number of girls from their high school or club teams?
Were there any girls who made the team who have no high school or club affiliation with the coaches or evaluators?
I watched the final game of the tryouts and the level of play was very high. All of the 40 plus girls on the field could have been selected.
I think the process was fair. It is unfortunate that their is only one team from Long Island. Maybe UA will consider two teams in the future, one Nassau and one Suffolk.
Sounds like sour grapes to me when you say the process was political, tainted and unfair.
Congratulations and good luck to the girls who made the team.
No sour grapes, just truthful. Lots of people have lots of connections and some don't even admit to the fact that they make phone calls!! Sounds like a very defensive response. Lots of back phone calls, attempts or having privates with coaches prior to tryouts, connections between clubs. Sorry your so angry about the truth. Good for your daughter if she made it, but be honest with yourself in that there is a lot of political play with ALL of these tryouts. We all know how the lacrosse world works these days and is very unfortunate. No sour grapes at all just honest! BTW that is the typical response when someone brings the truth to light that my daughter didn't make it....that's all you got I guess.
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
Then why did they originally try out for LI ,kind of destroys that point
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
Then why did they originally try out for LI ,kind of destroys that point
If UA was truly invested in a fair and honest process the answer is simple. Where do they attend high school. They want the $$. Sad thing is parents are so obnoxious and callous that they don't even think their daughters are taking spots away from girls who live in the New England region and attend school their year round. Typical LI parent who doesn't stop until they get what they want. Don't want to hear the BS it is what the kid wants, we all know they live vicariously thru their children! Shame on them and shame on UA. Again, not a taineted, political, unfair process???
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
Then why did they originally try out for LI ,kind of destroys that point
If UA was truly invested in a fair and honest process the answer is simple. Where do they attend high school. They want the $$. Sad thing is parents are so obnoxious and callous that they don't even think their daughters are taking spots away from girls who live in the New England region and attend school their year round. Typical LI parent who doesn't stop until they get what they want. Don't want to hear the BS it is what the kid wants, we all know they live vicariously thru their children! Shame on them and shame on UA. Again, not a taineted, political, unfair process???
Look at the Brine rosters from this past week, LI kids playing for 5-6 different states
No sour grapes, just truthful. Lots of people have lots of connections and some don't even admit to the fact that they make phone calls!! Sounds like a very defensive response. Lots of back phone calls, attempts or having privates with coaches prior to tryouts, connections between clubs. Sorry your so angry about the truth. Good for your daughter if she made it, but be honest with yourself in that there is a lot of political play with ALL of these tryouts. We all know how the lacrosse world works these days and is very unfortunate. No sour grapes at all just honest! BTW that is the typical response when someone brings the truth to light that my daughter didn't make it....that's all you got I guess.
You sound like such a [lacrosse] , congratulate the kids that made it and move on . If it was so political than how do explain so many YJ kids making the team . You make accusations about phone calls etc but then are too cowardly to state who , or what schools , or what connections like a coward . Just so douchy.
Brine said it would be that way at the tryout. That's a bad uninformed argument.
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
Then why did they originally try out for LI ,kind of destroys that point
If UA was truly invested in a fair and honest process the answer is simple. Where do they attend high school. They want the $$. Sad thing is parents are so obnoxious and callous that they don't even think their daughters are taking spots away from girls who live in the New England region and attend school their year round. Typical LI parent who doesn't stop until they get what they want. Don't want to hear the BS it is what the kid wants, we all know they live vicariously thru their children! Shame on them and shame on UA. Again, not a taineted, political, unfair process???
Some Parents think they are above everyone else. They have to look good in their town at any cost and do not care who they step on or hurt.
If the UA rules on eligibility do not restrict the kids to the region where they attend school, then the parents are not violating any rules. Change the rule on eligibility, don't dame the parent/kid who tries out for the event.
Similarly, the US Lacrosse organization should change their US "Championships" rules to restrict the number of teams from one club… or stop giving "automatic bids." Let the teams qualify each year from each region. You might see more teams coming to the regionals to qualify.
If the UA rules on eligibility do not restrict the kids to the region where they attend school, then the parents are not violating any rules. Change the rule on eligibility, don't dame the parent/kid who tries out for the event.
Similarly, the US Lacrosse organization should change their US "Championships" rules to restrict the number of teams from one club… or stop giving "automatic bids." Let the teams qualify each year from each region. You might see more teams coming to the regionals to qualify.
ELIGIBILITY: Boys and girls who, in July 2015, will have just completed their freshman (grad. year - 2018), sophomore (grad year- 2017) or junior (grad year- 2016) high school season. You must live within the geographic region* for the team you are trying out for and be in good academic standing.
SELECTION: Each player must register for their geographic region*.Players will be judged by a panel of knowledgeable sources including coaching experts from that region. Each team will consist of a maximum of 24 players and will be chosen based on position and their performance at that day's tryout. Walk up registration will cost $190 for boys and $130 for girls.
What was the story with inside lacrosse invitational ? , hearing minimal college coaches attented and weak competition ? Was it as thin as they say ? Elevate crushed all competition ?
If the UA rules on eligibility do not restrict the kids to the region where they attend school, then the parents are not violating any rules. Change the rule on eligibility, don't dame the parent/kid who tries out for the event.
Similarly, the US Lacrosse organization should change their US "Championships" rules to restrict the number of teams from one club… or stop giving "automatic bids." Let the teams qualify each year from each region. You might see more teams coming to the regionals to qualify.
So clueless
Some of the final UA girl's games were canceled today. Two fields were lost due to rain and unplayable fields.
What was the story with inside lacrosse invitational ? , hearing minimal college coaches attented and weak competition ? Was it as thin as they say ? Elevate crushed all competition ?
Was there for the boys which was a great event. Lots of coaches for them. Watched a few of the girls games, not many teams attended and didn't see any coaches for girls. Not sure if it will change in future, but would not recommend it for girls at this point.
A bit pricey when you add up entry fee and hotel and expenses to play in a tournament that was suppose to have college coaches attending ,only to have half a handfull of them and minimal teams playing .
I guess competing against Brine the same dates put a dampner on this. Buyer beware.
What was the story with inside lacrosse invitational ? , hearing minimal college coaches attented and weak competition ? Was it as thin as they say ? Elevate crushed all competition ?
Was there for the boys which was a great event. Lots of coaches for them. Watched a few of the girls games, not many teams attended and didn't see any coaches for girls. Not sure if it will change in future, but would not recommend it for girls at this point.
If the UA rules on eligibility do not restrict the kids to the region where they attend school, then the parents are not violating any rules. Change the rule on eligibility, don't dame the parent/kid who tries out for the event.
Similarly, the US Lacrosse organization should change their US "Championships" rules to restrict the number of teams from one club… or stop giving "automatic bids." Let the teams qualify each year from each region. You might see more teams coming to the regionals to qualify.
So clueless
LI girls lose to Baltimore 12-6 in UA Finals.
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
Then why did they originally try out for LI ,kind of destroys that point
If UA was truly invested in a fair and honest process the answer is simple. Where do they attend high school. They want the $$. Sad thing is parents are so obnoxious and callous that they don't even think their daughters are taking spots away from girls who live in the New England region and attend school their year round. Typical LI parent who doesn't stop until they get what they want. Don't want to hear the BS it is what the kid wants, we all know they live vicariously thru their children! Shame on them and shame on UA. Again, not a taineted, political, unfair process???
Check the Inside Lacrosse web site for the UA tourn player's that stood out
"A creative and smart attacker, "edit Player" excels especially around the crease. Playing for New England this weekend, she was the team’s go-to offensive quarterback as she dodges to score and feed equally as well. The Georgetown commit possesses a great stick and rarely makes mistakes."
I guess it all paid off..
Not sure what's more pathetic, that you could not leave well enough alone or how bad everyone felt for the kid who was made to play against her friends .No one said the kid is not a good player , but can you honestly say that she should have made the team going by the tryout she had. Give it a rest mom when you keep posting this nonsense you just alienate your kid even more.
Not sure what's more pathetic, that you could not leave well enough alone or how bad everyone felt for the kid who was made to play against her friends .No one said the kid is not a good player , but can you honestly say that she should have made the team going by the tryout she had. Give it a rest mom when you keep posting this nonsense you just alienate your kid even more.
Based on the results of the tournament.. team LI could have used a goal scorer
That is just absurd that players from LI will be on a New England team.
It's one thing to tryout for another region if you could not make the tryouts. However, to tryout for LI - not make it and then go to another region is absurd. UA just lost all credibility in their already tainted tryout process.
Maybe that's why LIers went elsewhere, to avoid the tainted process that we know exists in our region.
Then why did they originally try out for LI ,kind of destroys that point
If UA was truly invested in a fair and honest process the answer is simple. Where do they attend high school. They want the $$. Sad thing is parents are so obnoxious and callous that they don't even think their daughters are taking spots away from girls who live in the New England region and attend school their year round. Typical LI parent who doesn't stop until they get what they want. Don't want to hear the BS it is what the kid wants, we all know they live vicariously thru their children! Shame on them and shame on UA. Again, not a taineted, political, unfair process???
Check the Inside Lacrosse web site for the UA tourn player's that stood out
"A creative and smart attacker, "edit Player" excels especially around the crease. Playing for New England this weekend, she was the team’s go-to offensive quarterback as she dodges to score and feed equally as well. The Georgetown commit possesses a great stick and rarely makes mistakes."
I guess it all paid off..
"Yes Mommy and Daddy are very happy she got the write up."
Not sure what's more pathetic, that you could not leave well enough alone or how bad everyone felt for the kid who was made to play against her friends .No one said the kid is not a good player , but can you honestly say that she should have made the team going by the tryout she had. Give it a rest mom when you keep posting this nonsense you just alienate your kid even more.
Based on the results of the tournament.. team LI could have used a goal scorer
Based on the tryout your daughter should never been placed on any team. Make a few calls and get her placed on a team, make a few more calls and get her a write up. Those connections and calls will not help get playing time at the next level and stop playing with your back to the field when you have the ball.
those 2 LI girls that played for NE, when LI beat the pants off of NE, did absolutely nothing in that game. Didn't even know they were on the team, found out after game. Thats how much they stood out.
Dear UA: Why did you let girls from LI, who unquestionably live on LONG ISLAND, and do NOT attend schools in New England, try out for the New England team?
This is a clear violation of your stated eligibility rule as stated on the Under Armour Lacrosse website as follows: "You MUST live within the geographic region for the team you are trying out for..."
Clearly the girls on the NE team from LI did NOT live in the New England/Geographic region... and they did not make their own region's team.
If there is a different rule or interpretation of this rule which allowed these LI girls to tryout out for the New England team after not making the Long Island team, then please enlighten the lacrosse community because it is a question that deserves an answer.
This is setting a very bad precedent and takes away from the spirit of the tournament.
Dear UA: Why did you let girls from LI, who unquestionably live on LONG ISLAND, and do NOT attend schools in New England, try out for the New England team?
This is a clear violation of your stated eligibility rule as stated on the Under Armour Lacrosse website as follows: "You MUST live within the geographic region for the team you are trying out for..."
Clearly the girls on the NE team from LI did NOT live in the New England/Geographic region... and they did not make their own region's team.
If there is a different rule or interpretation of this rule which allowed these LI girls to tryout out for the New England team after not making the Long Island team, then please enlighten the lacrosse community because it is a question that deserves an answer.
This is setting a very bad precedent and takes away from the spirit of the tournament.
Did you send this letter or are you just complaining anonymously here? Because we can't do anytlhing about it and it doesn't seem everyone is all up in arms about this the way you are. I hope you sent it if you feel that strongly about it.
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Dear UA: Why did you let girls from LI, who unquestionably live on LONG ISLAND, and do NOT attend schools in New England, try out for the New England team?
This is a clear violation of your stated eligibility rule as stated on the Under Armour Lacrosse website as follows: "You MUST live within the geographic region for the team you are trying out for..."
Clearly the girls on the NE team from LI did NOT live in the New England/Geographic region... and they did not make their own region's team.
If there is a different rule or interpretation of this rule which allowed these LI girls to tryout out for the New England team after not making the Long Island team, then please enlighten the lacrosse community because it is a question that deserves an answer.
This is setting a very bad precedent and takes away from the spirit of the tournament.
Just curious, was your daughter on the LI team ? Did she try out ? or do you live in new England and these 2 girls took spots from someone you know ? just trying to figure out your motivation for bashing 16 yr old student athletes who probably very much wanted to play in the event.
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Dear UA: Why did you let girls from LI, who unquestionably live on LONG ISLAND, and do NOT attend schools in New England, try out for the New England team?
This is a clear violation of your stated eligibility rule as stated on the Under Armour Lacrosse website as follows: "You MUST live within the geographic region for the team you are trying out for..."
Clearly the girls on the NE team from LI did NOT live in the New England/Geographic region... and they did not make their own region's team.
If there is a different rule or interpretation of this rule which allowed these LI girls to tryout out for the New England team after not making the Long Island team, then please enlighten the lacrosse community because it is a question that deserves an answer.
This is setting a very bad precedent and takes away from the spirit of the tournament.
Just curious, was your daughter on the LI team ? Did she try out ? or do you live in new England and these 2 girls took spots from someone you know ? just trying to figure out your motivation for bashing 16 yr old student athletes who probably very much wanted to play in the event.
My guess is they are annoyed that their child went thru the tryout process and made the LI team and feel that its a very big honor to have been one of the 24 selected from LI,lots of talented kids got cut. Now you have 26 kids diminishing the accomplishment somewhat. You also have many kids that were cut who did not feel they had the option of trying out for another region as the rules do clearly state you cannot.The mother of one of those NE players could not tell enough people how her kid did not make the team because of politics again diminishing the accomplishment of those that did. Bending the rules to get an unfair advantage over other LI kids makes the process seem like a joke ,again diminishing other kids accomplishment. When you state maybe they just really wanted to play you act as if all the other kids who showed up and got cut did not want to play as bad as your kid when in reality they just were not as desperate and unethical.
Originally Posted By: Anonymous
Dear UA: Why did you let girls from LI, who unquestionably live on LONG ISLAND, and do NOT attend schools in New England, try out for the New England team?
This is a clear violation of your stated eligibility rule as stated on the Under Armour Lacrosse website as follows: "You MUST live within the geographic region for the team you are trying out for..."
Clearly the girls on the NE team from LI did NOT live in the New England/Geographic region... and they did not make their own region's team.
If there is a different rule or interpretation of this rule which allowed these LI girls to tryout out for the New England team after not making the Long Island team, then please enlighten the lacrosse community because it is a question that deserves an answer.
This is setting a very bad precedent and takes away from the spirit of the tournament.
Just curious, was your daughter on the LI team ? Did she try out ? or do you live in new England and these 2 girls took spots from someone you know ? just trying to figure out your motivation for bashing 16 yr old student athletes who probably very much wanted to play in the event.
I think it directed more towards the Parents who think they are above the rules and can do what ever they want not about bashing a 16 year old. But then again its a nice lesson to teach your kid if you can not make it with in the rules go somewhere else. It does not matter that you are taking an opportunity from someone else. "It Falls on the Parent not the Child."
"**These are recommended locations. The athlete has the choice to tryout for any region, which is most convenient for their schedule. For instance - If you go to school in a different State then your hometown, you may tryout in either location. However, whatever region you tryout for, is the Region you will represent if you make the team, and are required to attend all practices and games associated with the event."
"**These are recommended locations. The athlete has the choice to tryout for any region, which is most convenient for their schedule. For instance - If you go to school in a different State then your hometown, you may tryout in either location. However, whatever region you tryout for, is the Region you will represent if you make the team, and are required to attend all practices and games associated with the event."
I know for a fact at least one of the players tried for the Long Island Team and did not make it. Maybe UA has to rewrite tryout rules.
"**These are recommended locations. The athlete has the choice to tryout for any region, which is most convenient for their schedule. For instance - If you go to school in a different State then your hometown, you may tryout in either location. However, whatever region you tryout for, is the Region you will represent if you make the team, and are required to attend all practices and games associated with the event."
Are you telling me LI was most convenient for them and after they got cut NE then became most convenient. Trying to justify what they did is just silly, they got cut and their parents egos could not accept that maybe some kids just had a better tryout. Not the first time this kids parents have done this type thing, the funny thing is they complain about politics and go on to make calls to friends within UA. UA will ban this practice in the future because they realize its just wrong.
"**These are recommended locations. The athlete has the choice to tryout for any region, which is most convenient for their schedule. For instance - If you go to school in a different State then your hometown, you may tryout in either location. However, whatever region you tryout for, is the Region you will represent if you make the team, and are required to attend all practices and games associated with the event."
I know for a fact at least one of the players tried for the Long Island Team and did not make it. Maybe UA has to rewrite tryout rules.
Both players tried for LI and were cut - just like the other 120 or so other girls who tried out for THEIR region. UA and their underhanded politics is a complete joke. However, this also falls on the parents as well. What are we teaching these young ladies? You got cut - but wait there is a loophole and I'll make some calls and you can tryout again for New England so you can say you made UA. I can;t wait to see the bumper sticker on the back of their car.
"**These are recommended locations. The athlete has the choice to tryout for any region, which is most convenient for their schedule. For instance - If you go to school in a different State then your hometown, you may tryout in either location. However, whatever region you tryout for, is the Region you will represent if you make the team, and are required to attend all practices and games associated with the event."
I know for a fact at least one of the players tried for the Long Island Team and did not make it. Maybe UA has to rewrite tryout rules.
Were any LI girls turned away from attending the NE tryout? Or did just 2 girls pursue their desire to play even if it meant trying again after being cut from one team? Sounds like two determined girls. If they enjoyed themselves then the extra steps taken to make a team was a great decision. Hopefully, they earned a spot by having a solid tryout.
Both players tried for LI and were cut - just like the other 120 or so other girls who tried out for THEIR region. UA and their underhanded politics is a complete joke. However, this also falls on the parents as well. What are we teaching these young ladies? You got cut - but wait there is a loophole and I'll make some calls and you can tryout again for New England so you can say you made UA. I can;t wait to see the bumper sticker on the back of their car.
I don't think the intent of that ** was to give players a second bite at the apple. It appears it was meant for players that go to school out of the region where their family resides, to make a choice based upon convenience and exam schedules, etc. UA should going forward clarify this rule to eliminate any ambiguity so that parents and players alike know their options next year. IF they don't you can expect a flood of girls that are not selected to the LI team going to other tryouts.
Here's a question speaking of politics how many of those so called "top players" from the class of 2014 saw play time on the field in college this year or transferred bc they didn't see play time. Parents get over yourselves your superstars are not so super some of you and pulling strings now hurts them bc they cant deal with rejection. I know an entire group of 2014 grads who were top YJ and high School players as well as TG and saw less then 5 minutes of May in the real world and cant handke IT!!!
Here's a question speaking of politics how many of those so called "top players" from the class of 2014 saw play time on the field in college this year or transferred bc they didn't see play time. Parents get over yourselves your superstars are not so super some of you and pulling strings now hurts them bc they cant deal with rejection. I know an entire group of 2014 grads who were top YJ and high School players as well as TG and saw less then 5 minutes of May in the real world and cant handke IT!!!
You are sick. Still hating even after the kids are in college. Let it go already. Go get some help.
Here's a question speaking of politics how many of those so called "top players" from the class of 2014 saw play time on the field in college this year or transferred bc they didn't see play time. Parents get over yourselves your superstars are not so super some of you and pulling strings now hurts them bc they cant deal with rejection. I know an entire group of 2014 grads who were top YJ and high School players as well as TG and saw less then 5 minutes of May in the real world and cant handke IT!!!
All the kids that went on to play in college from my town all played major minutes.
Here's a question speaking of politics how many of those so called "top players" from the class of 2014 saw play time on the field in college this year or transferred bc they didn't see play time. Parents get over yourselves your superstars are not so super some of you and pulling strings now hurts them bc they cant deal with rejection. I know an entire group of 2014 grads who were top YJ and high School players as well as TG and saw less then 5 minutes of May in the real world and cant handke IT!!!
All the kids that went on to play in college from my town all played major minutes.
I know that a few from Farmingdale did not get any...and i think IT was harder for the parents then the children to accept. As far as your town getting major minutes what town?? Bc on top of Farmigdale, Mt Sinai, ESM, NP, GC all those who went to D1 saw basically nothing so parents be careful what you wish for make sure they like the school not just bc you like it for the name or lax!!! Many transfers this year from big D1 to lesser D1 or even not playing!! Statistically those who pick their schools instead of the schools picking them are happier!!!
Here's a question speaking of politics how many of those so called "top players" from the class of 2014 saw play time on the field in college this year or transferred bc they didn't see play time. Parents get over yourselves your superstars are not so super some of you and pulling strings now hurts them bc they cant deal with rejection. I know an entire group of 2014 grads who were top YJ and high School players as well as TG and saw less then 5 minutes of May in the real world and cant handke IT!!!
All the kids that went on to play in college from my town all played major minutes.
I know that a few from Farmingdale did not get any...and i think IT was harder for the parents then the children to accept. As far as your town getting major minutes what town?? Bc on top of Farmigdale, Mt Sinai, ESM, NP, GC all those who went to D1 saw basically nothing so parents be careful what you wish for make sure they like the school not just bc you like it for the name or lax!!! Many transfers this year from big D1 to lesser D1 or even not playing!! Statistically those who pick their schools instead of the schools picking them are happier!!!
Look at all the girls who transfer back to LIU, Adelphi and Molloy just to play after having a tough time away year 1 or 2 at big lax schools
All 6 of our 2014 seniors saw plenty of playing time plus another from the town over. 2 started on a top 5 Div 1 team as freshman. Oh by the way you forgot to mention WI who made it to the STATE FINAL in 2014 and I'm pretty sure they Finished the Fight in 2015 and earned the STATE TITLE. Another little tidbit to chew on they all played for the Purple. & Black which I believe to be Top Guns. Who ever started this comment has won the Darwin Award. I'm second for responding to such nonsense. I'm sure you would be able to handle such a big adjustment at least these girls gave it a shot much more than I can say for your sorry being. Hey Hop put an end to this nonsense this tough guy wants to berate kids that moved on with their lives and he has no reason why kids chose to leave school.
Here's a question speaking of politics how many of those so called "top players" from the class of 2014 saw play time on the field in college this year or transferred bc they didn't see play time. Parents get over yourselves your superstars are not so super some of you and pulling strings now hurts them bc they cant deal with rejection. I know an entire group of 2014 grads who were top YJ and high School players as well as TG and saw less then 5 minutes of May in the real world and cant handke IT!!!
All the kids that went on to play in college from my town all played major minutes.
I know that a few from Farmingdale did not get any...and i think IT was harder for the parents then the children to accept. As far as your town getting major minutes what town?? Bc on top of Farmigdale, Mt Sinai, ESM, NP, GC all those who went to D1 saw basically nothing so parents be careful what you wish for make sure they like the school not just bc you like it for the name or lax!!! Many transfers this year from big D1 to lesser D1 or even not playing!! Statistically those who pick their schools instead of the schools picking them are happier!!!
Is there something wrong with you. You sound like a moron, statistically speaking about kids that chose their school compared to kids who had schools pick them ...wth .
In fairness, anyone who says they haven't put a school on their radar after a coach reached out or targeted them is lying. There are some really obscure colleges on these committed lists and part of the reason is a coach reached out with an offer. Maybe not for blue chippers but definitely for kids in the middle of the club lacrosse pack.
Will somebody please stop "Jabba the Hutt" the MC mother from tweeting about her kids! We get it and we all know they are very talented young ladies, Jesus C*#st take a break lady go eat some bonbons enough is enough.
All 6 of our 2014 seniors saw plenty of playing time plus another from the town over. 2 started on a top 5 Div 1 team as freshman. Oh by the way you forgot to mention WI who made it to the STATE FINAL in 2014 and I'm pretty sure they Finished the Fight in 2015 and earned the STATE TITLE. Another little tidbit to chew on they all played for the Purple. & Black which I believe to be Top Guns. Who ever started this comment has won the Darwin Award. I'm second for responding to such nonsense. I'm sure you would be able to handle such a big adjustment at least these girls gave it a shot much more than I can say for your sorry being. Hey Hop put an end to this nonsense this tough guy wants to berate kids that moved on with their lives and he has no reason why kids chose to leave school.
What exactly should I put a stop to?
Will somebody please stop "Jabba the Hutt" the MC mother from tweeting about her kids! We get it and we all know they are very talented young ladies, Jesus C*#st take a break lady go eat some bonbons enough is enough.
Jabba the hutt??
I guess you can continue to let this person call out the class of 2014 without having anything solid to back it up? I guess this parent didn't have a superstar in 2014 and now wants to bash all the 2014 superstars I guess he follows all these student athletes and knows all the factors for the few who transferred? That person must have a lot of time on his hands. Start by worrying about your child and their welfare and we will worry about the welfare of our children. This is not the place to knock a child's decision because you do not like the parents or the child. Go beat your wife and kick your dog & you mention Farmingdale usually a blue collar hard working crowd with a lot of pride. You must be a transplant.
Will somebody please stop "Jabba the Hutt" the MC mother from tweeting about her kids! We get it and we all know they are very talented young ladies, Jesus C*#st take a break lady go eat some bonbons enough is enough.
Jabba the hutt??
I believe it refers to her girlish figure.......
Will somebody please stop "Jabba the Hutt" the MC mother from tweeting about her kids! We get it and we all know they are very talented young ladies, Jesus C*#st take a break lady go eat some bonbons enough is enough.
Jabba the hutt??
I believe it refers to her girlish figure.......
It is very disturbing that all of you cowards come on here an takes anonymous shots at a woman. If a kid was posting things like this about your daughter I am sure you would be up at the district filing bullying charges. I do not know the woman that you are referring to but remember you have a daughter too. If you are not happy with how she handles her twitter have the stones to approach her privately about it or do what most people with class do and just ignore her. If you can't you have bigger issues to discuss with a professional.
Will somebody please stop "Jabba the Hutt" the MC mother from tweeting about her kids! We get it and we all know they are very talented young ladies, Jesus C*#st take a break lady go eat some bonbons enough is enough.
Jabba the hutt??
I believe it refers to her girlish figure.......
It is very disturbing that all of you cowards come on here an takes anonymous shots at a woman. If a kid was posting things like this about your daughter I am sure you would be up at the district filing bullying charges. I do not know the woman that you are referring to but remember you have a daughter too. If you are not happy with how she handles her twitter have the stones to approach her privately about it or do what most people with class do and just ignore her. If you can't you have bigger issues to discuss with a professional.
Sorry but I have no idea who is being referenced here. Therefore not sure why it should be a problem for anyone. Seems pretty vague to me.
Will somebody please stop "Jabba the Hutt" the MC mother from tweeting about her kids! We get it and we all know they are very talented young ladies, Jesus C*#st take a break lady go eat some bonbons enough is enough.
Jabba the hutt??
I believe it refers to her girlish figure.......
It is very disturbing that all of you cowards come on here an takes anonymous shots at a woman. If a kid was posting things like this about your daughter I am sure you would be up at the district filing bullying charges. I do not know the woman that you are referring to but remember you have a daughter too. If you are not happy with how she handles her twitter have the stones to approach her privately about it or do what most people with class do and just ignore her. If you can't you have bigger issues to discuss with a professional.
Sorry but I have no idea who is being referenced here. Therefore not sure why it should be a problem for anyone. Seems pretty vague to me.
Singling out a mom from MC . Reference to her kids... I am sure there can't be more than one family on that team that has more than one kid on it.
Will somebody please stop "Jabba the Hutt" the MC mother from tweeting about her kids! We get it and we all know they are very talented young ladies, Jesus C*#st take a break lady go eat some bonbons enough is enough.
Jabba the hutt??
I believe it refers to her girlish figure.......
It is very disturbing that all of you cowards come on here an takes anonymous shots at a woman. If a kid was posting things like this about your daughter I am sure you would be up at the district filing bullying charges. I do not know the woman that you are referring to but remember you have a daughter too. If you are not happy with how she handles her twitter have the stones to approach her privately about it or do what most people with class do and just ignore her. If you can't you have bigger issues to discuss with a professional.
Sorry but I have no idea who is being referenced here. Therefore not sure why it should be a problem for anyone. Seems pretty vague to me.
Singling out a mom from MC . Reference to her kids... I am sure there can't be more than one family on that team that has more than one kid on it.
First off what's MC. Second YOU are bringing attention to this. Third if someone who is registered would like to complain or give a reason why this should be paid attention to at all by a moderator then PM me. Otherwise who cares really. If it's a knock on a parent then get in line. There's lots of em and maybe some are justified and maybe not.
Just because you don't agree with the posters opinion doesn't mean he/she shouldn't have one. Right?
MC is Middle Country who ended the season like the 2007 New England Patriots 18-1. By the way the team had a couple of pairs of siblings on it.
Will somebody please stop "Jabba the Hutt" the MC mother from tweeting about her kids! We get it and we all know they are very talented young ladies, Jesus C*#st take a break lady go eat some bonbons enough is enough.
Jabba the hutt??
I believe it refers to her girlish figure.......
It is very disturbing that all of you cowards come on here an takes anonymous shots at a woman. If a kid was posting things like this about your daughter I am sure you would be up at the district filing bullying charges. I do not know the woman that you are referring to but remember you have a daughter too. If you are not happy with how she handles her twitter have the stones to approach her privately about it or do what most people with class do and just ignore her. If you can't you have bigger issues to discuss with a professional.
Sorry but I have no idea who is being referenced here. Therefore not sure why it should be a problem for anyone. Seems pretty vague to me.
Singling out a mom from MC . Reference to her kids... I am sure there can't be more than one family on that team that has more than one kid on it.
Totally agree, if you are going to put anything on social media for all to read good or bad one leaves themselves open to public opinion. I would also read a bit more carefully they poster does say that both children are very talented, but doesn't care for the way the parent continues to self promote her children. Again that is that posters opinion who I happen to agree with, this particular parent really goes overboard with the having local media on speed dial, re-posting, re-tweeting, re-everything about her children. My opinion just like you have yours.
Most parents of top tier travel players are taught by the parents ahead of them that they must be waving their children's pom poms from a very young age in order to keep up. Starts with tracking down the AD's in 7th and 8th grade then goes to social media tweets retweets and posts and then taking leadership of the self serving booster clubs. All of this is nothing new
Maybe she's just proud of her kids
Most parents of top tier travel players are taught by the parents ahead of them that they must be waving their children's pom poms from a very young age in order to keep up. Starts with tracking down the AD's in 7th and 8th grade then goes to social media tweets retweets and posts and then taking leadership of the self serving booster clubs. All of this is nothing new
Not just parents of top tier travel players. Parents of the B level kids go crazy, probably more than the top tier, kissing [lacrosse], posting stuff on FB and other media, to make their kids look better than they are. Some are like full blown marketing campaigns, trying to make a B player look like an A. It's crazy!
If you don't like her tweets, why don't you just un-follow her?
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