The Spring 2014 Boys Varsity Lacrosse season will be getting onto the practice fields in both Nassau (Section VIII) and Suffolk (Section XI) Counties in just a few short months.
Now in our fourth year of Varsity coverage, BOTC will be covering Long Island's Varsity Lacrosse news, scores, discussions, and stories.
Please use this thread to discuss the Spring 2014 Season.
The Coaches Association released the Nassau Boys 2014 Preseason Seedings just before Thanksgiving.
Conference A
1. Massapequa
2. Syosset
3. Port Washington
4. Hicksville
5. Baldwin
6. Farmingdale
7. Oceanside
8. East Meadow
9. Calhoun
10. MacArthur
11. Plainview
12. Mepham
13. Uniondale
14. Freeport
15. Hempstead
16. Valley Stream
Conference B1
1. Garden City
2. Long Beach
3. Wantagh
4. Carey
5. South Side
6. Plainedge
7. Sewanhaka
8. Division
9. Jericho
10. Bellmore JFK
11. Great Neck South
12. Elmont
13. New Hyde Park
14. Herricks
Conference B2
1. Manhasset
2. Lynbrook
3. Hewlett
4. Bethpage
5. North Shore
6. Seaford
7. Island Trees
8. Roslyn
9. Floral Park
10. West Hempstead
11. Glen Cove
12. Lawrence
13. Great Neck North
14. Roosevelt
Conference C
1. Friends Academy
2. Cold Spring Harbor
3. Mineola
4. Locust Valley
5. Oyster Bay
6. Malverne/East Rockaway
7. Wheatley/Carle PLace
8. Clarke
Reminder : Here were the finalists and results from the 2013 Long Island Championships in Class A, B, and C.
Long Island Championship Class A Final
Ward Melville defeats Massapequa, 12-3
Long Island Championship Class B Final
Garden City defeats Miller Place, 9-4
Long Island Championship Class C Final
Shoreham-Wading River defeats Friends Academy, 18-7
Remember that in Suffolk County (Section XI) Shoreham-Wading River, Glenn (Elwood), and Mount Sinai will all be in Class B this season making their roads all the more difficult.
West Babylon, Hauppauge, and Deer Park will now be playing in Class A.
Suffolk Division I Teams (Class A)
Bay Shore
Brentwood
Commack
Connetquot
Copiague
Deer Park
East Islip
Half Hollow Hills East
Half Hollow Hills West
Hauppauge
Lindenhurst
Longwood
Middle Country
North Babylon
Northport
Patchogue-Medford
Riverhead
Sachem East
Sachem North
Smithtown East
Smithtown West
Walt Whitman
Ward Melville
West Babylon
West Islip
William Floyd
Suffolk Division II Teams (Classes B and C)
Bellport (B)
Comsewogue (B)
E Hampton/BH/Pier (B)
Eastport-S Manor (B)
Elwood-J Glenn (B)
Harborfields (B)
Huntington (B)
Islip (B)
Kings Park (B)
Miller Place (B)
Mt. Sinai (B)
Rocky Point (B)
Sayville (B)
Shoreham-WR (B)
Westhampton (B)
Babylon (C)
Bayport-Blue Pt. (C)
Center Moriches (C)
Hampton Bays (C)
Matt/Gpt/Shld (C)
McGann-Mercy (C)
Anyone have any info on the H.S. league at Bay Shore H.S. I saw them playing last weekend. Do they play there every weekend ?
Boys Suffolk Playoffs for Division I will open on Friday, May 16th and continue on Tuesday, May 20th. The Suffolk Class A semifinals will take place on Friday, May 23rd with the finals to be held at Stony Brook University on Wednesday, May 28th.
In Division II, Class B and Class C will begin on Saturday, May 17th and conduct their semifinal matches on Thursday, May 22nd. The Class B final will be held at Stony Brook University on Wednesday, May 28th while the Class C final will be held at the Dowling Sports Complex on Tuesday, May 27th.
Anyone have any info on the H.S. league at Bay Shore H.S. I saw them playing last weekend. Do they play there every weekend ?
Varsity teams at Bayshore on Sunday Mornings, I think the league is run by west islip.
Who plays and when do they play till?
Anyone have any info on the H.S. league at Bay Shore H.S. I saw them playing last weekend. Do they play there every weekend ?
Varsity teams at Bayshore on Sunday Mornings, I think the league is run by west islip.
Anyone have any info on the H.S. league at Bay Shore H.S. I saw them playing last weekend. Do they play there every weekend ?
Varsity teams at Bayshore on Sunday Mornings, I think the league is run by west islip.
Is this someone trying to stir the pot? Why would West Islip be running a league on Bay Shore's fields and not their own. Or why wouldn't Bay Shore just run it themselves?
Who plays and when do they play till?
Anyone have any info on the H.S. league at Bay Shore H.S. I saw them playing last weekend. Do they play there every weekend ?
Varsity teams at Bayshore on Sunday Mornings, I think the league is run by west islip.
This is a winter outdoor league and the teams involved include West Islip (two squads), Bay Shore, Half Hollow Hills East, Lindenhurst, East Islip, Sayville, and Babylon. BOTC does not have a copy of the winter season schedule to offer any additional insight.
Bay Shore Winter Lacrosse League 2013-14
Teams
#1 West Islip A
#2 Bay Shore
#3 Lindenhurst
#4 Hills East
#5 East Islip
#6 Babylon
#7 Sayville
#8 West Islip B
Game 1 at 10:30
Game 2 at 11:45
All games 25 min. halves, 20 min. Warm-up
Field 1 Field 2
Dec. 1
Game One 1 vs 5 3 vs 7
Game Two 4 vs 8 2 vs 6
Dec. 8
Game One 1 vs 2 3 vs 5
Game Two 4 vs 6 7 vs 8
Dec. 15
Game One 2 vs 4 1 vs 3
Game Two 5 vs 8 6 vs 7
Dec. 22
Game One 2 vs 7 3 vs 8
Game Two 1 vs 4 5 vs 6
Jan. 12
Game One 1 vs 8 6 vs 3
Game Two 2 vs 5 4 vs 7
Jan. 19
Game One 2 vs 3 6 vs 8
Game Two 1 vs 7 4 vs 5
Jan. 26
Game One 2 vs 8 5 vs 7
Game Two 1 vs 6 3 vs 4
Feb. 2nd, 9th and 23rd are make-up dates & playoff
Distributed by the Farmingdale School District
Farmingdale's Hartranft Wins Gerald J. Carroll Award
The Farmingdale School District recently announced that Farmingdale High School boys’ varsity lacrosse coach Bob Hartranft has been selected to receive the prestigious 2013 Gerald J. Carroll Award, presented by US Lacrosse. The award recognizes one high school coach whose success is best measured in the support and guidance given to the development of student-athletes. Coach Hartranft will be presented the award during the 2014 US Lacrosse Convention scheduled on January 10-12, 2014 in Philadelphia, PA.
“It is a tremendous honor to have one of our role models be recognized on a national level,” said Farmingdale Schools Superintendent John Lorentz. “The Farmingdale School District is dedicated to developing all our students into well-rounded adults, and Bob Hartranft has played a critical role in ensuring that our students-athletes hold themselves to the highest standards both on and off the field.”
Can anyone post playoff/ make-up dates ? thanks.
Important question:
Is any tape aloud on the shaft at all for face offs this year? I was under the impression that the tape can't touch the head, but my son's coach is telling him no tape on the stick at all. can someone please clarify?
Is the Bay Shore outdoor League still going ? If so, could someone post the remaining schedule. Thanks to the person who previously posted the schedule.
Important question:
Is any tape aloud on the shaft at all for face offs this year? I was under the impression that the tape can't touch the head, but my son's coach is telling him no tape on the stick at all. can someone please clarify?
First off, not all new NCAA rules are immediately HS rules, sometimes the rules are completely different. here is the new NCAA rule
Shooting strings or laces must be within 4 inches of top of crosse
Change to RULE 1-SECTION 19: "Any additional strings or laces (e.g., shooting strings) must be located within 4" of top of the crosse. No more than one sidewall string on each side is allowed.
No crosse may have any tape affixed to the plastic. This does not include the crosse of a goalkeeper."
Tape may not be added to the throat of a faceoff player's crosse
4-3: "Tape must be applied to the handle of the crosse in a contrasting color to designate the throat of the crosse for players taking the faceoff."
Farmingdale's Hartranft Receives Gerald J. Carroll Award
Long-time Farmingdale High School boys' varsity lacrosse coach Bob Hartranft has received the prestigious 2013 Gerald J. Carroll Award, presented by US Lacrosse. The honor recognizes a high school coach "whose success is best measured in the support and guidance given to the development of student-athletes." Hartranft received the award at the annual US Lacrosse Convention, January 10-12 in Philadelphia.
Hartranft is currently #3 in coaching wins in New [lacrosse] state with 673 (behind only Mike Messere from West Genesee, 772, and Joe Cuozzo with Ward Melville and Mount Sinai, 747). He led his team to the New [lacrosse] state Class A championship in 2011.
Warrior Preseason North America Boys’ Rankings: Boys’ Latin (MD) is No. 1
Boys’ Latin (MD) is the No. 1 team in the Warrior/TopLaxRecruits.com Preseason North America Boys’ Rankings for 2014.
The Lakers finished 19-1 in 2013 and were ranked No. 1 all season until bowing to Loyola Blakefield (MD) in the finals of the Maryland Interscholastic Athletic Association championships. The Lakers graduated a large senior class, but return a host of experienced players.
No. 2 Haverford School was 15-7 last year, but finished strong by winning the Inter-Ac invitational. The Fords relied heavily on sophomores and freshmen last year and will be top-heavy with young but seasoned starters.
No. 3 Culver Academy has become the class of the Midwest. Last year the Eagles won the North American Lacrosse Tournament. They play mostly a national schedule against top teams in the East and Midwest and fans can point especially to a March 25 date at No. 5 Gilman School. The No. 4 team is Hill Academy, of Ontario, Canada.
Warrior/TopLaxRecruits.com Preseason Boys’ Rankings, 2014
1. Boys’ Latin (MD) 19-1 last year
2. Haverford School (PA) 15-7
3. Culver Academy (IN) 19-2
4. Hill Academy (ONT, Canada) 18-4
5. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 11-5
6. Gilman School (MD) 12-4
7. St. Paul’s (MD) 15-5
8. Smithtown West (N.Y.) 16-3
9. McDonogh School (MD) 14-4
10. Chaminade (N.Y.) 15-2
11. Georgetown Prep (MD) 17-6
12. Delbarton (N.J.) 17-1
13. Garden City (N.Y.) 19-3
14. Massapequa (N.Y.) 14-3
15. Ward Melville (N.Y.) 22-0
16. Salesianum School (DE) 17-2
17. Landon School (MD) 13-7
18. Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.) 13-5
19. Malvern Prep (PA) 16-2
20. Gonzaga (D.C.) 19-2
Under consideration: Arapahoe, CO (16-3); Avon Grove, PA, (21-4); Avon Old Farms (CT) 10-7; Bishop Timon St. Jude, N.Y. (17-4); Brunswick School, CT (13-3); Calvert Hall, MD (11-6); Conestoga, PA (15-11); Darien, CT (12-8); Hereford, MD (19-2); ; La Costa Canyon, CA (18-4); Lake Highland Prep, FL (20-5); La Salle, PA (20-2); Loyola Blakefield, MD (13-8); Manhasset, N.Y. (15-4); Niskayuna, N.Y. (21-1); Paul VI, VA (20-4); Ridge, N.J. (20-3); Smithtown East, N.Y. (14-4); St. Ignatius Prep, CA (21-1); St. Mark’s, TX (18-3); St. Stephen’s & St. Agnes, VA (18-6); Yorktown, N.Y. (17-3).
Does anybody know where the Port Washington v. Smithtown West Long Island Championship game will be played this year? Hofstra or Stony Brook?
Does anybody know where the Port Washington v. Smithtown West Long Island Championship game will be played this year? Hofstra or Stony Brook?
Although we cannot account for the teams, many of the Boys Lacrosse playoff matches will be held at Hofstra Univerisity this year.
May 31st : Long Island Championship at Hofstra University
Class A: Sec XI at Sec VIII, 1:00 pm
Class B: Sec XI at Sec VIII, 3:30 pm
Class C: Sec XI at Sec VIII, 6:00 pm
June 4th - NYSPHSAA Championship East Semi-Finals at Hofstra University
Class A: 3:30 pm
Class B: 5:30 pm
Class C: 8:00 pm
June 7th - NYSPHSAA Championship Finals, Hofstra University (Sec VIII)
Class A: 11:00 am
Class B: 1:30 pm
Class C: 4:00 pm
Does anybody know where the Port Washington v. Smithtown West Long Island Championship game will be played this year? Hofstra or Stony Brook?
that's a bold prediction.
Does anybody know where the Port Washington v. Smithtown West Long Island Championship game will be played this year? Hofstra or Stony Brook?
that's a bold prediction.
not really, Smithtown West is great at every position and now they have the best coach in the game.
Does anybody know where the Port Washington v. Smithtown West Long Island Championship game will be played this year? Hofstra or Stony Brook?
that's a bold prediction.
not really, Smithtown West is great at every position and now they have the best coach in the game.
Agreed but Port Washington may be a stretch. Very solid program with a very good coach. But unlikely they will beat Massapequa or Syosset. Just saying.
Does anybody know where the Port Washington v. Smithtown West Long Island Championship game will be played this year? Hofstra or Stony Brook?
that's a bold prediction.
not really, Smithtown West is great at every position and now they have the best coach in the game.
Agreed but Port Washington may be a stretch. Very solid program with a very good coach. But unlikely they will beat Massapequa or Syosset. Just saying.
Figured it had to be a Smithtown parent bragging before the season even started. The kids are too mature and have more class to even think of saying anything at this point and anyone from PW or Nassau County knows the programs well enough to know that PW will have a tough time getting ahead of the two stronger programs of Massapequa and Syosset that are in front of them from the start.
Program wise.....don't forget about farmingdale.
Best program and history in that conference. Never
count them out. Port has a tough road.
PW last 2 years had two of the best players anywhere and couldn't beat Syo or Pequa... Aint happening this year either.
PW last 2 years had two of the best players anywhere and couldn't beat Syo or Pequa... Aint happening this year either.
You never know. PW was a dark horse laat year and beat Farmingdale and Syosset on the way to the county title game.
Don't count out Farmingdale, had a rough season past two years but I think they're really going to step it up this year. Pretty good senior class and sophomore class, and a couple of freshman that will see some time.
Don't count out Farmingdale, had a rough season past two years but I think they're really going to step it up this year. Pretty good senior class and sophomore class, and a couple of freshman that will see some time.
Massapequa graduated a strong class. How do they shape up this year? As strong as always?
They didn't graduate most of those kids yet. A lot of D1 commits.
Pequa number 9 in Nike/US Lacrosse preseason.. I don't see Syosset, Farmingdale or even Port Washington on the list.
9. Massapequa (N.Y.)
And that means???......nothing!!! Somebody thinks
That they might be good, but have never seen them play.
Let's see what happens then judge
Don't count out Farmingdale, had a rough season past two years but I think they're really going to step it up this year. Pretty good senior class and sophomore class, and a couple of freshman that will see some time.
Massapequa graduated a strong class. How do they shape up this year? As strong as always?
Farmindale will need "Transfers" if they want to win the State.
Massapequa, St. As, West Islip & SouthSide scrimmaged today. Massapequa beat up on West Islip - 8-0 in first half and I think final was 10-2. Massapequa v St. As was 1-1 at half and 3-2 St. As final in a very well played early season match.
Smithtown West couldn't even beat Sayville today?? Whatsssuppp?
Any One have any results from Northport scrimmages on sat
Teams were
Huntington
Northport
kingspark
Whitman
Hills west
Hills east(Not Sure)
Harbourfields
Glenn
Are you kidding me? Could you be so delusional, when SW took all the 6 footers off the field who did you think you were playing? Starters? Get real, you scored goals on the 3's and 4's, congrats.
Are you kidding me? Could you be so delusional, when SW took all the 6 footers off the field who did you think you were playing? Starters? Get real, you scored goals on the 3's and 4's, congrats.
Interesting excuse, but not buying it! SW is just not the power they think they are!
I only count first half of scrimmages since that's when starters play. I watched Huntington play Northport and Whitman. Looked like Northport has a strong defense and goalie, offensively their attack play was good and middies struggled. Whitman was down 3 or 4 at halftime to hunt starters, Whitman lacks depth but have some kids that can play. huntington was inconsistent, did very little vs Northport offensively but looked good against Whitman. Huntington has a very athletic starting defense and will be the best part of their squad
Huntington Whitman 3-3 at half and Whitman won 6-4
Huntington Beat Northport by a goal, but northport pulled starters in 2nd half
GC was too much for both the varsity and JV St Anthony's squads this weekend.
The varsity was decided by a goal or two and the JV? well, the Friars did get one shot off.
Literally, one shot. GC had at last count 10 goals.
So much for varsity pre- season rankings.
I only count first half of scrimmages since that's when starters play. I watched Huntington play Northport and Whitman. Looked like Northport has a strong defense and goalie, offensively their attack play was good and middies struggled. Whitman was down 3 or 4 at halftime to hunt starters, Whitman lacks depth but have some kids that can play. huntington was inconsistent, did very little vs Northport offensively but looked good against Whitman. Huntington has a very athletic starting defense and will be the best part of their squad
Whitman was actually up 3-2 at half and won 6-4. Seemed like they had pretty good depth and excellent goalie.
Not sure what you heard or saw but Huntington only scored 4 all game was not up 3 or 4 at half. Score was 3-2 WW at half and 6-4 WW final
How did Hills west look??
Are you kidding me? Could you be so delusional, when SW took all the 6 footers off the field who did you think you were playing? Starters? Get real, you scored goals on the 3's and 4's, congrats.
What's your excuse for losing to Rocky Point? Can't wait to here this one!!
When did GC varsity play St. Ants varsity? St. Ants varsity played 4-way in Massapequa on Saturday vs. Pequa, West Islip & South Side.
St. A's JV team didn't play Saturday. That was the Freshmen team.
How is Walt Whitman a 15 Seed
St. A's JV team didn't play Saturday. That was the Freshmen team.
And the GC JV team was 90% freshmen and only one soph was on the field all day.
Still no contest. The future doesn't looks so bright for St A's.
What is your deal? St. Ants varsity did not even play GC - how could they when they were playing a 4-way in Massapequa? And it sounds like the GC JV beat the St. Ant's freshmen - wow that is impressive!
What is your deal? St. Ants varsity did not even play GC - how could they when they were playing a 4-way in Massapequa? And it sounds like the GC JV beat the St. Ant's freshmen - wow that is impressive!
Actually they did. Play GC Last wed or thurs. and lost You would have heard about it had they won I am sure.
The GC JV is the freshman team. They carry like 3-4 10th graders and none of them starts.
It is not a freshmen team if it has 10th graders on it. Btw St. A's Varsity did win the scrimmage 5-4 last Wednesday. You would have know if you were there.
Are you kidding. GC JV team has more than 3-4 10th graders once season starts. It will be half and half you watch. You have to remember they are all about winning and at any cost and padding the stats. Win games 20 - 2 with starters still in the game late. Lesson Coach F learned from back in the day when the legend was coaching the team. They have such a feeder program in the youth programs in GC they just keep reloading no matter who is coaching. But I hear the next few years are thin on talent and size. They will find a way to make sure schedule works in their favor
Are you kidding. GC JV team has more than 3-4 10th graders once season starts. It will be half and half you watch. You have to remember they are all about winning and at any cost and padding the stats. Win games 20 - 2 with starters still in the game late. Lesson Coach F learned from back in the day when the legend was coaching the team. They have such a feeder program in the youth programs in GC they just keep reloading no matter who is coaching. But I hear the next few years are thin on talent and size. They will find a way to make sure schedule works in their favor
If they can't find the players in GC just find someone outside the district and have him move in with the kicker.... I mean goalies.
And if they get caught St Anthony's scoops them up. Are the dorms finished being built at St Anthonys for the out of staters?? THEY ARE ABOVE THE GYM. LOL
Garden City has been bringing in a player or two every so often for years. It goes back to the days when Doc was the coach and his son got " Adopted " by a family so he could play for his Dad . Dont get me wrong year in and year out they are always a force. I just wish they would play Chaminade every year like they use to.
My son's Syosset team played them yesterday. GC JV's starting Attackmen are all freshmen and I think their starting Defense has two committed freshmen. There are a few sophmores on the first two middie lines and their top goalie is a sophomore. As far as "next few years, thin on talent and size" ??? - C'mon, it's Garden City Lacrosse. They seem to always find a way.
Are you kidding. GC JV team has more than 3-4 10th graders once season starts. It will be half and half you watch. You have to remember they are all about winning and at any cost and padding the stats. Win games 20 - 2 with starters still in the game late. Lesson Coach F learned from back in the day when the legend was coaching the team. They have such a feeder program in the youth programs in GC they just keep reloading no matter who is coaching. But I hear the next few years are thin on talent and size. They will find a way to make sure schedule works in their favor
Will never happen. Look how many GC kids attend Chaminade. If they played and Chaminade wins the number of meetings the GC coach has every year promising kids the world just so they would not attend Chaminade would triple if not more.
Are you kidding. GC JV team has more than 3-4 10th graders once season starts. It will be half and half you watch. You have to remember they are all about winning and at any cost and padding the stats. Win games 20 - 2 with starters still in the game late. Lesson Coach F learned from back in the day when the legend was coaching the team. They have such a feeder program in the youth programs in GC they just keep reloading no matter who is coaching. But I hear the next few years are thin on talent and size. They will find a way to make sure schedule works in their favor
If they can't find the players in GC just find someone outside the district and have him move in with the kicker.... I mean goalies.
Ouch....I know what you're referring to and that is pretty nasty. All involved could not be nicer people...so shame on you.
Loyola over St Anthony's 14-5
What is your deal? St. Ants varsity did not even play GC - how could they when they were playing a 4-way in Massapequa? And it sounds like the GC JV beat the St. Ant's freshmen - wow that is impressive!
Actually they did. Play GC Last wed or thurs. and lost You would have heard about it had they won I am sure.
The GC JV is the freshman team. They carry like 3-4 10th graders and none of them starts.
The GC JV IS a JV!! Plenty of 10th graders. St.Anthony freshman team are just that, freshman.
Chaminade 10 Ward Melville 5.
Massapequa will deliver the next loss to GC this year. GC is not the team they were these last few years. Granted its still GC and they will probably win their conference as always. Dont see too much competition for GC in league games. Maybe wantagh , long beach or Carey could make it interesting. Just dont think those 2 are deep enough to topple GC. But GC can't hang with the big boys this year. They have been on the decline and we will see it this year.
How did the faceoffs go in the GC vs SW game? 2 very good faceoff kids going at it!
Chaminade 10 Ward Melville 5.
No surprises there. WM is just not going to cut it this year. They are too young of a team and not very big in size. SW should handle them easily and Northport will give them a problem as well.
Chaminade 10 Ward Melville 5.
No surprises there. WM is just not going to cut it this year. They are too young of a team and not very big in size. SW should handle them easily and Northport will give them a problem as well.
Problem with WM is it is now a daddy run team. Daddy's call and there son is on the team.
How did the faceoffs go in the GC vs SW game? 2 very good faceoff kids going at it!
You can watch for yourself on MSG Varsity. I was not impressed with either one. Going early, not clean!
It would be nice to see other schools do well besides the regular few that are always on top. Wantagh , Long Beach , South side are due and I think with GC possibly on a downslide and if the planets align.....who knows
Chaminade 10 Ward Melville 5.
No surprises there. WM is just not going to cut it this year. They are too young of a team and not very big in size. SW should handle them easily and Northport will give them a problem as well.
Problem with WM is it is now a daddy run team. Daddy's call and there son is on the team.
I'm not suer if either of the above posts are accurate but I will say that Ward Melville Parent behavior was deplorable at the Chaminade game. I am sure not all Ward Melville parents whine and complain but there were more than a few on saturday who did not stop the entire game. I guess if they only whine when they are not winning it wont become a problem because I think they only lose one or two games per year (if that many). Although a notch below Chaminade on Saturday I think Ward Melville will be fine this year.
Massapequa will deliver the next loss to GC this year. GC is not the team they were these last few years. Granted its still GC and they will probably win their conference as always. Dont see too much competition for GC in league games. Maybe wantagh , long beach or Carey could make it interesting. Just dont think those 2 are deep enough to topple GC. But GC can't hang with the big boys this year. They have been on the decline and we will see it this year.
Massapequa? Just a bunch of wannabes
Chaminade 10 Ward Melville 5.
No surprises there. WM is just not going to cut it this year. They are too young of a team and not very big in size. SW should handle them easily and Northport will give them a problem as well.
Problem with WM is it is now a daddy run team. Daddy's call and there son is on the team.
I'm not suer if either of the above posts are accurate but I will say that Ward Melville Parent behavior was deplorable at the Chaminade game. I am sure not all Ward Melville parents whine and complain but there were more than a few on saturday who did not stop the entire game. I guess if they only whine when they are not winning it wont become a problem because I think they only lose one or two games per year (if that many). Although a notch below Chaminade on Saturday I think Ward Melville will be fine this year.
Saw the same this summer they get behind and its the ref's calls
How did St Anthonys do this weekend against the 5th or 6th best team out o Baltimore?
Chaminade 10 Ward Melville 5.
No surprises there. WM is just not going to cut it this year. They are too young of a team and not very big in size. SW should handle them easily and Northport will give them a problem as well.
I agree, Chaminade beating Ward Melville is no suprise but I don't think anyone else on their schedule is going to handle them easily. Northport and Smithtown west have been cherping for years.
Chaminade 10 Ward Melville 5.
Very interesting game, Cham jumped early and often and WM looked like a deer in the headlights early on, but the WM goalie settled down and had a very good second half, Cham goalie had an excellent game. The game was not as close as the score but I think in about a month this would be a closer game, WM needs some time but I think they will there at the end.
Note to WM parents, yes most of the calls where against you but that is because you kept fouling and the damn refs kept calling the fouls. Last year was a great team and you should be very proud but it's over and WM needs to realize you are not entitled to win just because you show up, the boys need to win it on the field.
Chaminade 10 Ward Melville 5.
Very interesting game, Cham jumped early and often and WM looked like a deer in the headlights early on, but the WM goalie settled down and had a very good second half, Cham goalie had an excellent game. The game was not as close as the score but I think in about a month this would be a closer game, WM needs some time but I think they will there at the end.
Note to WM parents, yes most of the calls where against you but that is because you kept fouling and the damn refs kept calling the fouls. Last year was a great team and you should be very proud but it's over and WM needs to realize you are not entitled to win just because you show up, the boys need to win it on the field.
Why do they need time? Don't they play together year round? What is going to change in a month? The only thing that is going to change is the competition, there will not be any.
How did St Anthonys do this weekend against the 5th or 6th best team out o Baltimore?
Please let me insert LI excuses and save you some time: Loyola had older kids, they play year round, we were missing a few kids, the refs were biased...I think I covered most of the usual excuses
Anyone know what happened at the Commack/Whitman game yesterday? Heard there was a brawl and it ended early.
More of a scuffle, not Brawl.
Game was getting very chippy because Whitman was winning 10-1, and no referees present(Never a good thing).
Started after a hit on Whitman kid. Escalated quickly, and Commack kids followed coach onto field. Whitman kids were instructed by coaches to stay Put. All then calmed down. If Whitman kids ran onto field, this would have been a Brawl.
2012: "GC lost all three of their D1 defensemen, they're done this year" -- 2012 NY State Champions (#1 in the nation)
2013: "GC graduated two of their stud attackman, they will not be competitive this year" - 2013 NY State Champions
2014:??? "GC is not the team they were these last few years" ....
Mas
Masapequa will deliver the next loss to GC this year. GC is not the team they were these last few years. Granted its still GC and they will probably win their conference as always. Dont see too much competition for GC in league games. Maybe wantagh , long beach or Carey could make it interesting. Just dont think those 2 are deep enough to topple GC. But GC can't hang with the big boys this year. They have been on the decline and we will see it this year.
2012: "GC lost all three of their D1 defensemen, they're done this year" -- 2012 NY State Champions (#1 in the nation)
2013: "GC graduated two of their stud attackman, they will not be competitive this year" - 2013 NY State Champions
2014:??? "GC is not the team they were these last few years" ....
Where did all of the studs that graduated from Garden City in 2011, 2012, 2013 play during the summer?
Did they play for club teams in the off season during their rising 8th, 9th, 10th 11th grade years?
How did these kids develop into such great lacrosse?
Didn't their individual skill, talent and work ethic contribute to the overall team success at Garden City?
Has anything changed in Garden City?
Mas
Masapequa will deliver the next loss to GC this year. GC is not the team they were these last few years. Granted its still GC and they will probably win their conference as always. Dont see too much competition for GC in league games. Maybe wantagh , long beach or Carey could make it interesting. Just dont think those 2 are deep enough to topple GC. But GC can't hang with the big boys this year. They have been on the decline and we will see it this year.
How did St Anthonys do this weekend against the 5th or 6th best team out o Baltimore?
Please let me insert LI excuses and save you some time: Loyola had older kids, they play year round, we were missing a few kids, the refs were biased...I think I covered most of the usual excuses
You missed the best St A's excuse of all ... It's a football school and the boys only recently picked up their lacrosse sticks. St A's doesn't like to be embarrassed in any sport so you can take it to the bank that they will not be scheduling any top-tier MIAA teams again for many years. They'd rather beat up on the Kellenbergs of the world for a 14-2 record with the only 2 losses being to Chaminade. Wish everything was so predictable.
How did St Anthonys do this weekend against the 5th or 6th best team out o Baltimore?
Please let me insert LI excuses and save you some time: Loyola had older kids, they play year round, we were missing a few kids, the refs were biased...I think I covered most of the usual excuses
I didnt hear any of those excuses from St. A's. You seem premature......probably the same premature problem you have in your personal life.
Where did all of the studs that graduated from Garden City in 2011, 2012, 2013 play during the summer?
Did they play for club teams in the off season during their rising 8th, 9th, 10th 11th grade years?
How did these kids develop into such great lacrosse?
Didn't their individual skill, talent and work ethic contribute to the overall team success at Garden City?
Has anything changed in Garden City?
Anyone know what happened at the Commack/Whitman game yesterday? Heard there was a brawl and it ended early.
There were no refs and game was getting chippy. Whitman was up about 10-1 and Commack was getting aggravated. It only lasted about 30 minutes until there was a little scuffle and then Commacks bench ran on to the field and Whitmans did not. It could have been worse if Whitman was not disciplined to stay on the bench.
How does everyone think the playoffs are going to end up in Suffolk? What teams are going to make it?
Anyone know what happened at the Commack/Whitman game yesterday? Heard there was a brawl and it ended early.
There were no refs and game was getting chippy. Whitman was up about 10-1 and Commack was getting aggravated. It only lasted about 30 minutes until there was a little scuffle and then Commacks bench ran on to the field and Whitmans did not. It could have been worse if Whitman was not disciplined to stay on the bench.
How does everyone think the playoffs are going to end up in Suffolk? What teams are going to make it?
Whitman starts their conference play today. Could this game be an indication of playoff teams. Hope weather doesn't become a factor.
How in the world could Section XI allow a game with no refs?
They played all over Express, fl$, Lizards, Jesters. Growing up they all played in clinics then PAL plus travel teams so the had the chance to play with other kids and were not pigeon holed to one position. They would play BOTH SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS during lax season. More you play better you get.
Yes there are big changes in GC. Now the kids are told they have to play for GC Summer Select. They can not play outside and Coach F is aware of who is and WHO IS NOT playing. This is ruining lacrosse in GC because now the same kids are the go to kids. The same kids play man up, man down and the others are there as practice players where if the play for an outside team the would get more opportunity and playing time. You will see a decline in GC in the coming years
funny another cry baby parent. your kid is not a go to player for a reason. GC will always be a top program.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] St A's..........They'd rather beat up on the Kellenbergs of the world....
Easy there tiger. Times are changing.
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] St A's..........They'd rather beat up on the Kellenbergs of the world....
Easy there tiger. Times are changing.
I bet Kellenberg doesn't beat St A's for at least the next 25 seasons.
funny another cry baby parent. your kid is not a go to player for a reason. GC will always be a top program.
You mean used to be, they are going down the WI road, it happens!
They played all over Express, fl$, Lizards, Jesters. Growing up they all played in clinics then PAL plus travel teams so the had the chance to play with other kids and were not pigeon holed to one position. They would play BOTH SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS during lax season. More you play better you get.
Yes there are big changes in GC. Now the kids are told they have to play for GC Summer Select. They can not play outside and Coach F is aware of who is and WHO IS NOT playing. This is ruining lacrosse in GC because now the same kids are the go to kids. The same kids play man up, man down and the others are there as practice players where if the play for an outside team the would get more opportunity and playing time. You will see a decline in GC in the coming years
Inane, uniformed and jealousy driven post. Most of the top D1 recent grad players of the recent years have had club experience.
Pick any town team in any state : The best players will always be on the field on man down situations.
Your post is unsubstantiated.
Really... I hope these are all kids responding. If not, reread what you've posted. This is akin to kids on a school bus.
Really ask any kid in 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, living in GC and ask who they are playing for and they will tell you GC SELECT Committed Team if they are the so called top player or a kid of a dad with pull. Uniformed I think not since they paid me to evaluate and pick the teams. The kids also had to sign a document stating that you are committed to the team and the team comes first before soccer or PAL. ALL TRUE. After I submitted my numbers of the kids I felt were the best and compared with the other evaluators I went back to see if they kept it the same and there were kids that none of the evaluators picked that were on the practice field. As far as playing man up man down yes you want your best players when it is serious and means something not 4th 5th 6th grade when all kids should get a chance. Most kids playing in 4th will switch positions a couple of times before they get serious at the Freshmen JV level
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] St A's..........They'd rather beat up on the Kellenbergs of the world....
Easy there tiger. Times are changing.
I bet Kellenberg doesn't beat St A's for at least the next 25 seasons.
That's a fools bet and you know what happens to their money. Good luck with that.
Really ask any kid in 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, living in GC and ask who they are playing for and they will tell you GC SELECT Committed Team if they are the so called top player or a kid of a dad with pull. Uniformed I think not since they paid me to evaluate and pick the teams. The kids also had to sign a document stating that you are committed to the team and the team comes first before soccer or PAL. ALL TRUE. After I submitted my numbers of the kids I felt were the best and compared with the other evaluators I went back to see if they kept it the same and there were kids that none of the evaluators picked that were on the practice field. As far as playing man up man down yes you want your best players when it is serious and means something not 4th 5th 6th grade when all kids should get a chance. Most kids playing in 4th will switch positions a couple of times before they get serious at the Freshmen JV level
Valid response. Why partake then if it is so corrupt and yet not say anything when the numbers didn't add up?
If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
funny another cry baby parent. your kid is not a go to player for a reason. GC will always be a top program.
You're forgetting that GC is town with people of means. The beneficiares of this will be the Chaminades, Kellenbergs and Freinds of the world.
Chaminade 10 Ward Melville 5.
Very interesting game, Cham jumped early and often and WM looked like a deer in the headlights early on, but the WM goalie settled down and had a very good second half, Cham goalie had an excellent game. The game was not as close as the score but I think in about a month this would be a closer game, WM needs some time but I think they will there at the end.
Note to WM parents, yes most of the calls where against you but that is because you kept fouling and the damn refs kept calling the fouls. Last year was a great team and you should be very proud but it's over and WM needs to realize you are not entitled to win just because you show up, the boys need to win it on the field.
Why was the game interesting?
The difference in the game was not the goalies.
Why would the game be different in a month?
Why does Ward Melville need more time?
Does Ward Melville not play together with the same coaches throughout the year? Are their skills going to improve significantly in a month? Is their knowledge of the game going to improve?
Are they going to get faster? What will make them get better?
Do you think that Chaminade is going to become less skilled in a month? Are they going to become slower? Is the coaching going to decline?
The questions I would be asking are why are the Chaminade players more skilled and why do they have a better understanding of the game?
Why is Chaminade better prepared to play against tough competition?
Why did Ward Melville "look like a deer in the headlights"?
Tell me if i am wrong, you sound like a Ward Melville parent giving a back handed compliment to Chaminade while at the same time trying to say Ward Melville is not that bad.
My take on the game is that Ward Melville is a good team. Chaminade is a better team but that does not matter because Ward Melville will not play anyone as strong as Chaminade. Smithtown West and Northport will compete but that is about it.
You are right and I declined to do it again and when asked why I explained and of course they had their reasons. The kids we did not pick are very good just did not have a good tryout and they know they should be on the team. My response was what about Johnny who stepped up and had a good enough tryout for us to notice and he is not on the team because of that kid we left out. Even when you think they are doing the right thing the powers still do what they want. Dont live there so I have no power to make change. Just hope I don't run into Johnny's parents or Johnny and asked why I did not pick his or her son because I am not going to lie.
funny another cry baby parent. your kid is not a go to player for a reason. GC will always be a top program.
You're forgetting that GC is town with people of means. The beneficiares of this will be the Chaminades, Kellenbergs and Freinds of the world.
And increasingly the NE prep schools.
Ty Xanders on LI today. Will probably catch the Chaminade and/or SW games. Looking forward to reading all about it tonight on Inside Lacrosse!
Really ask any kid in 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, living in GC and ask who they are playing for and they will tell you GC SELECT Committed Team if they are the so called top player or a kid of a dad with pull. Uniformed I think not since they paid me to evaluate and pick the teams. The kids also had to sign a document stating that you are committed to the team and the team comes first before soccer or PAL. ALL TRUE. After I submitted my numbers of the kids I felt were the best and compared with the other evaluators I went back to see if they kept it the same and there were kids that none of the evaluators picked that were on the practice field. As far as playing man up man down yes you want your best players when it is serious and means something not 4th 5th 6th grade when all kids should get a chance. Most kids playing in 4th will switch positions a couple of times before they get serious at the Freshmen JV level
Valid response. Why partake then if it is so corrupt and yet not say anything when the numbers didn't add up?
If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
Sounds like you are informed, but unfortunately you're wrong - there are kids who would be deemed "the best in their grade" and ARE NOT playing on the committed A team in GC. Lax has become too competitive to stay in your town if you want to play against the best competition. Sad but true.
Really ask any kid in 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, living in GC and ask who they are playing for and they will tell you GC SELECT Committed Team if they are the so called top player or a kid of a dad with pull. Uniformed I think not since they paid me to evaluate and pick the teams. The kids also had to sign a document stating that you are committed to the team and the team comes first before soccer or PAL. ALL TRUE. After I submitted my numbers of the kids I felt were the best and compared with the other evaluators I went back to see if they kept it the same and there were kids that none of the evaluators picked that were on the practice field. As far as playing man up man down yes you want your best players when it is serious and means something not 4th 5th 6th grade when all kids should get a chance. Most kids playing in 4th will switch positions a couple of times before they get serious at the Freshmen JV level
Valid response. Why partake then if it is so corrupt and yet not say anything when the numbers didn't add up?
If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.
Sounds like you are informed, but unfortunately you're wrong - there are kids who would be deemed "the best in their grade" and ARE NOT playing on the committed A team in GC. Lax has become too competitive to stay in your town if you want to play against the best competition. Sad but true.
What does any of this have to do with Current Varsity Players?
Move it elsewhere
Wantagh wins in a squeaker against East Meadow. What's going on in Wantagh ? Is East Meadow really that good this year or is Wantagh down?
Not sure what grade you are talking about in GC but it definitely isn't the case for the 2022 4th grade. That A team is a true A team by design who will be playing other A town travel teams this spring and summer.
But I agree this thread should be moved to another area since we have quite a few years before we are at a varsity level.
Where can I find H.S. lacrosse scores? Newsday is useless...Thx
Where can I find H.S. lacrosse scores? Newsday is useless...Thx
Sectionxi.org
Where can I find H.S. lacrosse scores? Newsday is useless...Thx
Sectionxi.org
laxpower.com to see both s/n
Chaminade beats Pequa with Inside Lacrosse in attendance.
Chaminade beat Massapequa 7-4 today
That is a travel team beating a town team. Not impressed! Actually chaminade should be embarrassed that they didn't win by more being that the school draws talent from a much larger area!
First off , you should know Massapequa is a very good team. Town team or not a tough opponent for anyone. Give credit to both teams for a good game you fool.
Anyone know what happened at the Commack/Whitman game yesterday? Heard there was a brawl and it ended early.
There were no refs and game was getting chippy. Whitman was up about 10-1 and Commack was getting aggravated. It only lasted about 30 minutes until there was a little scuffle and then Commacks bench ran on to the field and Whitmans did not. It could have been worse if Whitman was not disciplined to stay on the bench.
How does everyone think the playoffs are going to end up in Suffolk? What teams are going to make it?
Whitman starts their conference play today. Could this game be an indication of playoff teams. Hope weather doesn't become a factor.
Did the Playoffs kinda go out the window with the second half?
Chaminade beats Pequa with Inside Lacrosse in attendance.
Pequa was obviously missing their leading scorer from last year.
That is a travel team beating a town team. Not impressed! Actually chaminade should be embarrassed that they didn't win by more being that the school draws talent from a much larger area!
Really? A town/travel argument? When a team is ranked in the top ten nationally that discussion is irrelevant.
That is a travel team beating a town team. Not impressed! Actually chaminade should be embarrassed that they didn't win by more being that the school draws talent from a much larger area!
Just another BOTC hater - why not credit a very, very good public school team?
That is a travel team beating a town team. Not impressed! Actually chaminade should be embarrassed that they didn't win by more being that the school draws talent from a much larger area!
Sounds like Massapequa can't take ownership of the loss. Make all the excuses you want but I believe one of your cronies was on here predicting all the losses Massapequa was going to hand out. Town vs. Travel blah, blah, blah, blah. (BTW many of the kids on Massapequa play travel..so what is the next excuse??)
That is a travel team beating a town team. Not impressed! Actually chaminade should be embarrassed that they didn't win by more being that the school draws talent from a much larger area!
Really? A town/travel argument? When a team is ranked in the top ten nationally that discussion is irrelevant.
No, actually it is very relavant! Chaminade draws from the entire tri-stae and beyond. Pequa kis are only from one town. I am much more impressed with a team that is nationally ranked drawing from a small area. They really should not even play each other. It's an all-star team playing a town team. Pequa showed that they can keep up, there was no blow out here. Chaminade also hides from playing the best all star teams such as Boy's Latin, and Hill Acadamy because they know what would happen!
Are you serious ?? You think Mass would play those teams ?? Look at Chaminade first 5 games of the season. They take on all if they could. If you were there you would have noticed Chaminade shut it down the whole fourth making it very boring to watch. Chaminade had Possession in their offensive end most of the game and when Mass did get the ball Chaminades defense was to physical and slid very quickly and shut them down second half. If anything I was dissapointed in Massapequa. They talked a big game and did not back it up. Let the excuses begin.
Did not hear the one where it was too cold yesterday and their mommies were not allowed on the sidelines with blankets to keep them warm.
Side note nice job on the stadium Chaminade. It was about time so more can see the machine at work
Chaminade took this game because they knew Mass would give them a good game. They dont play weak teams just to play the game. But they did do the right thing once they knew they had the game in hand. Let see what the final score is when Mass plays the rest of their weak schedule. Hopefully their coach does the right thing. Tired of seeing 15-2 20-5 scores. NO NEED
Are you serious ?? You think Mass would play those teams ?? Look at Chaminade first 5 games of the season. They take on all if they could. If you were there you would have noticed Chaminade shut it down the whole fourth making it very boring to watch. Chaminade had Possession in their offensive end most of the game and when Mass did get the ball Chaminades defense was to physical and slid very quickly and shut them down second half. If anything I was dissapointed in Massapequa. They talked a big game and did not back it up. Let the excuses begin.
Did not hear the one where it was too cold yesterday and their mommies were not allowed on the sidelines with blankets to keep them warm.
Side note nice job on the stadium Chaminade. It was about time so more can see the machine at work
Keep bragging about beating town teams and ducking true competition for your school type! Comical
Anyone know what happened at the Commack/Whitman game yesterday? Heard there was a brawl and it ended early.
There were no refs and game was getting chippy. Whitman was up about 10-1 and Commack was getting aggravated. It only lasted about 30 minutes until there was a little scuffle and then Commacks bench ran on to the field and Whitmans did not. It could have been worse if Whitman was not disciplined to stay on the bench.
How does everyone think the playoffs are going to end up in Suffolk? What teams are going to make it?
Whitman starts their conference play today. Could this game be an indication of playoff teams. Hope weather doesn't become a factor.
Did the Playoffs kinda go out the window with the second half?
What happened?
That is a travel team beating a town team. Not impressed! Actually chaminade should be embarrassed that they didn't win by more being that the school draws talent from a much larger area!
Really? A town/travel argument? When a team is ranked in the top ten nationally that discussion is irrelevant.
It is relevant. When a public HS makes top ten nationally, that is huge! Kids coming from one town, working very hard and putting an extraordinary team together (on a public school budget) When you have a private school, drawing kids from all over, with resources and funds that no public school will ever receive. The coaching, the facilities, the $$$ that flows through that program is astonishing! They should be a "Machine"! Congratulations to Massapequa, SW and any other public school that can actually compete on a field with that. Chaminade is a great team, absolutely, but saying the town/travel is irrelevant is wrong.
Still wondering who is ducking?? Look at Massapequas schedule and ask yourself why are they playing those teams. Actually I will be cheering for Mass this saturday. GC 0-2 BY SUNDAY ??
That is a travel team beating a town team. Not impressed! Actually chaminade should be embarrassed that they didn't win by more being that the school draws talent from a much larger area!
Really? A town/travel argument? When a team is ranked in the top ten nationally that discussion is irrelevant.
No, actually it is very relavant! Chaminade draws from the entire tri-stae and beyond. Pequa kis are only from one town. I am much more impressed with a team that is nationally ranked drawing from a small area. They really should not even play each other. It's an all-star team playing a town team. Pequa showed that they can keep up, there was no blow out here. Chaminade also hides from playing the best all star teams such as Boy's Latin, and Hill Acadamy because they know what would happen!
No doubt that fielding a nationally ranked team from a small area is an impressive feat. However, every high school team deals the hand they are dealt whether public or private. No guarantee that a private school can attract a high caliber of talent year after year. If they do, there's no guarantee that the talent will play well together year after year. There are many factors that lead to a successful season for any school. So, just enjoy the competition and make no excuses.
Still wondering who is ducking?? Look at Massapequas schedule and ask yourself why are they playing those teams. Actually I will be cheering for Mass this saturday. GC 0-2 BY SUNDAY ??
What time and where is this game? Could be huge. Hope the weather turn the corner looks like rain though. Because although they are both in the same element; not everyone plays the same/equal in different elements.
Pequa/Chaminade should play each other every year. This is a quality game that benefits both teams. Our coach should schedule the best non-conference schedule he can to help us prepare for the State tournament run!! Hats off to the Pequa coaching staff for letting our kids have the opportunity to play Chaminade and GC. We should add St Anthonys, Manhasset or a stud Suffolk B or C team to our schedule next year. I was there yesterday and it was a terrific, hard fought game. Just remember no one complained about playing Kellenberg except for a few dads that said we should schedule a tougher opponent in place of them. Last time I checked Kellenberg is a team full of players form different towns. Enjoy the rest of the season.
Go Chiefs!!!
Please spare us the David and Golliath stories. Massapequa High School has 2,000 students! You would hope they can field a competitive team with 1.000 boys enrolled. If you really want to have this argument, look at what districts like SWR & CSH achieve with schools less than half the size of Pequa.
That is a travel team beating a town team. Not impressed! Actually chaminade should be embarrassed that they didn't win by more being that the school draws talent from a much larger area!
Really? A town/travel argument? When a team is ranked in the top ten nationally that discussion is irrelevant.
No, actually it is very relavant! Chaminade draws from the entire tri-stae and beyond. Pequa kis are only from one town. I am much more impressed with a team that is nationally ranked drawing from a small area. They really should not even play each other. It's an all-star team playing a town team. Pequa showed that they can keep up, there was no blow out here. Chaminade also hides from playing the best all star teams such as Boy's Latin, and Hill Acadamy because they know what would happen!
No doubt that fielding a nationally ranked team from a small area is an impressive feat. However, every high school team deals the hand they are dealt whether public or private. No guarantee that a private school can attract a high caliber of talent year after year. If they do, there's no guarantee that the talent will play well together year after year. There are many factors that lead to a successful season for any school. So, just enjoy the competition and make no excuses.
That is a travel team beating a town team. Not impressed! Actually chaminade should be embarrassed that they didn't win by more being that the school draws talent from a much larger area!
Really? A town/travel argument? When a team is ranked in the top ten nationally that discussion is irrelevant.
It is relevant. When a public HS makes top ten nationally, that is huge! Kids coming from one town, working very hard and putting an extraordinary team together (on a public school budget) When you have a private school, drawing kids from all over, with resources and funds that no public school will ever receive. The coaching, the facilities, the $$$ that flows through that program is astonishing! They should be a "Machine"! Congratulations to Massapequa, SW and any other public school that can actually compete on a field with that. Chaminade is a great team, absolutely, but saying the town/travel is irrelevant is wrong.
What is the admission process for Massapequa HS? Oh yeah, there isn't one. Chaminade does not recruit athletes or give athletic sholarships. So while it is true they draw from multiple towns, all their players have to first qualify academicaly. I am sure we can all identify players who would have like to go to Chaminade but couldn't get in. So that is a limitation that public schools dont have. Ande you can go back-and-forth with this forever. I am just making the point, contrary to what some have argued, that Chaminade lax coaches do not have the luxury of choosing which kids they want to take. There are many players they would love to have but who cannot meet the academic threshold for admission.
Disciplinary action should be taken against the Massapequa Athletic Director and Coaching Staff for violating Section 8 Anti-Bullying Policy. At the very least a letter of reprimand is in order for scheduling an athletic contest against a high school with a smaller student population. How can Garden City compete against a school that has a larger population to choose its players from?
Embarrassed to win a lacrosse game at the HS level.. wow I thought I have read it all.. how about Pequa should be proud of the way they played against one of the top HS programs... or how about Chaminade should also be proud about beating an excellent Pequa team in a great game?
That is a travel team beating a town team. Not impressed! Actually chaminade should be embarrassed that they didn't win by more being that the school draws talent from a much larger area!
Really? A town/travel argument? When a team is ranked in the top ten nationally that discussion is irrelevant.
It is relevant. When a public HS makes top ten nationally, that is huge! Kids coming from one town, working very hard and putting an extraordinary team together (on a public school budget) When you have a private school, drawing kids from all over, with resources and funds that no public school will ever receive. The coaching, the facilities, the $$$ that flows through that program is astonishing! They should be a "Machine"! Congratulations to Massapequa, SW and any other public school that can actually compete on a field with that. Chaminade is a great team, absolutely, but saying the town/travel is irrelevant is wrong.
Realty Check Time... Town/ travel----Is the first poster implying that Massapequa hasn't got any travel players on it's squad....If so, his argument is weak.
The rosters of the premium club/travel teams on LI are loaded with talented Pequa players. Many teams coached by Pequa guys too.
Also, Chaminade & Pequa have been playing each other (early in the season) for a dozen years now. The have a great rivalry, and always play a great game. (so, why whine after all these years? simply because the Chiefs are top 10 this year)
Chaminade always tries to play top talent non league teams ... just look at their schedule. Both schools have benefitted from playing each other.
Pequa is very talented and could be the top Nassau public team this year. One Year it's GC, or Farmingdale, or Manhassett... that is the best public team in Nassau. WELCOME, come take your seat at the table, Chiefs...it's your turn!
But you get there by playing other good teams like Chaminade. And I know the players on both teams like it, respect it, and look forward to it.
You are missing the point. The original poster was saying that comparing Chaminade to Massapequa is like comparing a travel team with a town team (Although, a very good town team)It is very hard in this day and age for a public school to keep up with these private, high cost, big alumni $$ schools. No one should take anything away from Chaminade, they are a machine. A very well funded, coached, privileged machine.
You are missing the point. The original poster was saying that comparing Chaminade to Massapequa is like comparing a travel team with a town team (Although, a very good town team)It is very hard in this day and age for a public school to keep up with these private, high cost, big alumni $$ schools. No one should take anything away from Chaminade, they are a machine. A very well funded, coached, privileged machine.
Need I point to the consistently great public (Elite) programs (well coached and deeply talented) on Long Island such as WI, WM, Farm, Manhasett, GC, and other consistently very good public teams like Smithtown W, Northport, SWR, Syosset, Wantagh.
Almost always, one of theses town teams finishes the year ranked ahead of both Chaminade and St. Anthony's in the national rankings.
Sooo stop; there are talented kids all over LI.
Some don't consider the catholic 2 because of religious reasons, some just want to play in the home HS, others just did not take the entrance test, and still others might not have done well on the tests.
You are missing the point. The original poster was saying that comparing Chaminade to Massapequa is like comparing a travel team with a town team (Although, a very good town team)It is very hard in this day and age for a public school to keep up with these private, high cost, big alumni $$ schools. No one should take anything away from Chaminade, they are a machine. A very well funded, coached, privileged machine.
Need I point to the consistently great public (Elite) programs (well coached and deeply talented) on Long Island such as WI, WM, Farm, Manhasett, GC, and other consistently very good public teams like Smithtown W, Northport, SWR, Syosset, Wantagh.
Almost always, one of theses town teams finishes the year ranked ahead of both Chaminade and St. Anthony's in the national rankings.
Sooo stop; there are talented kids all over LI.
Some don't consider the catholic 2 because of religious reasons, some just want to play in the home HS, others just did not take the entrance test, and still others might not have done well on the tests.
Interesting you put WI in the elite group. The showed poorly last year and lost to Hauppauge yesterday. Smithtown (spanked GC last weekend!) and Northport are much better programs and you call them "good"? SWR although troubled this year has also done better than "good"!
You make no sense in your assessment of good vs. great programs!
How many state championships have been won by Northport???
Need to win a few before they are elite, at least I/M/O.
You can call yourself elite, I am not sure anyone cares enough to argue the point but pretty clear that WI and WM have won their fair share over the years.
How many state championships have been won by Northport???
Need to win a few before they are elite, at least I/M/O.
You can call yourself elite, I am not sure anyone cares enough to argue the point but pretty clear that WI and WM have won their fair share over the years.
Public Leagues on the Island are weak. The top one or two teams in each are good but the rest are not strong at all. Much like PAL, not competitive.
How many state championships have been won by Northport???
Need to win a few before they are elite, at least I/M/O.
You can call yourself elite, I am not sure anyone cares enough to argue the point but pretty clear that WI and WM have won their fair share over the years.
Public Leagues on the Island are weak. The top one or two teams in each are good but the rest are not strong at all. Much like PAL, not competitive.
You must be one of those pompous Chaminade Daddy's! If your little superstar's team is so great, why don't they play teams from the MIAA??? Or from the Philly league? You know the answer, Chammy Daddy... Its because there's a very good chance they wouldn't win a game!!!
Many schools in the public B Division on LI come from districts with 125 boys per grade. Not so easy to field super teams that can compete against Cham or St Ants. However, there are many kids that are going to great D3 schools that will actually PLAY in college, while getting great educations. Good luck to your son. With a father like you, he'll need a little luck.
You are missing the point. The original poster was saying that comparing Chaminade to Massapequa is like comparing a travel team with a town team (Although, a very good town team)It is very hard in this day and age for a public school to keep up with these private, high cost, big alumni $$ schools. No one should take anything away from Chaminade, they are a machine. A very well funded, coached, privileged machine.
Need I point to the consistently great public (Elite) programs (well coached and deeply talented) on Long Island such as WI, WM, Farm, Manhasett, GC, and other consistently very good public teams like Smithtown W, Northport, SWR, Syosset, Wantagh.
Almost always, one of theses town teams finishes the year ranked ahead of both Chaminade and St. Anthony's in the national rankings.
Sooo stop; there are talented kids all over LI.
Some don't consider the catholic 2 because of religious reasons, some just want to play in the home HS, others just did not take the entrance test, and still others might not have done well on the tests.
Interesting you put WI in the elite group. The showed poorly last year and lost to Hauppauge yesterday. Smithtown (spanked GC last weekend!) and Northport are much better programs and you call them "good"? SWR although troubled this year has also done better than "good"!
You make no sense in your assessment of good vs. great programs!
West Islip was 12-6 last year. Definitely a down year, but they beat Northport and reached the playoffs for the twenty something straight year. Since 2004 they have won 5 state titles, 7 LI titles, 9 straight county titles and 2 national titles. Ward Melville since 1986 has 8 state titles, 14 class A county titles, 11 LI championships and a national title last year. SWR has won 3 state , 5 LI and 9 county titles. Northport has 1 state title and 2 county and LI titles each. Massapequa, whom I think will probably face Smithtown West for this year's LI championship has 6 county titles and has never won a LI or state title. This brings me to Smithtown. 1 county title 14 years ago. In addition to Garden City, Manhasset, and CSH, I think Farmingdale, Syosset, Bethpage, Mt.Sinai, Southside and a few others have more of a right to call themselves elite than Smithtown. Now go get your shine box!
How many state championships have been won by Northport???
Need to win a few before they are elite, at least I/M/O.
You can call yourself elite, I am not sure anyone cares enough to argue the point but pretty clear that WI and WM have won their fair share over the years.
"over the years" is key! Both have lack luster teams this year WI now for two years in a row. All the while Stown and Northport, and a few others are building strong competitive programs. You are as good as your last performance! Stop living in the past! The tradition is over, there's a new kid in town!!
You are missing the point. The original poster was saying that comparing Chaminade to Massapequa is like comparing a travel team with a town team (Although, a very good town team)It is very hard in this day and age for a public school to keep up with these private, high cost, big alumni $$ schools. No one should take anything away from Chaminade, they are a machine. A very well funded, coached, privileged machine.
Need I point to the consistently great public (Elite) programs (well coached and deeply talented) on Long Island such as WI, WM, Farm, Manhasett, GC, and other consistently very good public teams like Smithtown W, Northport, SWR, Syosset, Wantagh.
Almost always, one of theses town teams finishes the year ranked ahead of both Chaminade and St. Anthony's in the national rankings.
Sooo stop; there are talented kids all over LI.
Some don't consider the catholic 2 because of religious reasons, some just want to play in the home HS, others just did not take the entrance test, and still others might not have done well on the tests.
Interesting you put WI in the elite group. The showed poorly last year and lost to Hauppauge yesterday. Smithtown (spanked GC last weekend!) and Northport are much better programs and you call them "good"? SWR although troubled this year has also done better than "good"!
You make no sense in your assessment of good vs. great programs!
West Islip was 12-6 last year. Definitely a down year, but they beat Northport and reached the playoffs for the twenty something straight year. Since 2004 they have won 5 state titles, 7 LI titles, 9 straight county titles and 2 national titles. Ward Melville since 1986 has 8 state titles, 14 class A county titles, 11 LI championships and a national title last year. SWR has won 3 state , 5 LI and 9 county titles. Northport has 1 state title and 2 county and LI titles each. Massapequa, whom I think will probably face Smithtown West for this year's LI championship has 6 county titles and has never won a LI or state title. This brings me to Smithtown. 1 county title 14 years ago. In addition to Garden City, Manhasset, and CSH, I think Farmingdale, Syosset, Bethpage, Mt.Sinai, Southside and a few others have more of a right to call themselves elite than Smithtown. Now go get your shine box!
Pequa will lose to Stown west in the county finals just like last year!
Smithtown West has a great defense and a great D coach now, so yes I think they are on their way. Just don't get too cocky yet, they haven't won anything and there are a lot of games to be played. I'm sure there will be more upsets in Suffolk A this year. I don't see them blowing the tougher teams out by double digits like WM did last year. The so called down teams and the up and comers just might ruin the parade you have planned already.
You are missing the point. The original poster was saying that comparing Chaminade to Massapequa is like comparing a travel team with a town team (Although, a very good town team)It is very hard in this day and age for a public school to keep up with these private, high cost, big alumni $$ schools. No one should take anything away from Chaminade, they are a machine. A very well funded, coached, privileged machine.
Need I point to the consistently great public (Elite) programs (well coached and deeply talented) on Long Island such as WI, WM, Farm, Manhasett, GC, and other consistently very good public teams like Smithtown W, Northport, SWR, Syosset, Wantagh.
Almost always, one of theses town teams finishes the year ranked ahead of both Chaminade and St. Anthony's in the national rankings.
Sooo stop; there are talented kids all over LI.
Some don't consider the catholic 2 because of religious reasons, some just want to play in the home HS, others just did not take the entrance test, and still others might not have done well on the tests.
Interesting you put WI in the elite group. The showed poorly last year and lost to Hauppauge yesterday. Smithtown (spanked GC last weekend!) and Northport are much better programs and you call them "good"? SWR although troubled this year has also done better than "good"!
You make no sense in your assessment of good vs. great programs!
West Islip was 12-6 last year. Definitely a down year, but they beat Northport and reached the playoffs for the twenty something straight year. Since 2004 they have won 5 state titles, 7 LI titles, 9 straight county titles and 2 national titles. Ward Melville since 1986 has 8 state titles, 14 class A county titles, 11 LI championships and a national title last year. SWR has won 3 state , 5 LI and 9 county titles. Northport has 1 state title and 2 county and LI titles each. Massapequa, whom I think will probably face Smithtown West for this year's LI championship has 6 county titles and has never won a LI or state title. This brings me to Smithtown. 1 county title 14 years ago. In addition to Garden City, Manhasset, and CSH, I think Farmingdale, Syosset, Bethpage, Mt.Sinai, Southside and a few others have more of a right to call themselves elite than Smithtown. Now go get your shine box!
Pequa will lose to Stown west in the county finals just like last year to melville!
Maybe next year? there are a few other teams poised to explode next year as they have tons of young committed talent! We will see
You are missing the point. The original poster was saying that comparing Chaminade to Massapequa is like comparing a travel team with a town team (Although, a very good town team)It is very hard in this day and age for a public school to keep up with these private, high cost, big alumni $$ schools. No one should take anything away from Chaminade, they are a machine. A very well funded, coached, privileged machine.
Need I point to the consistently great public (Elite) programs (well coached and deeply talented) on Long Island such as WI, WM, Farm, Manhasett, GC, and other consistently very good public teams like Smithtown W, Northport, SWR, Syosset, Wantagh.
Almost always, one of theses town teams finishes the year ranked ahead of both Chaminade and St. Anthony's in the national rankings.
Sooo stop; there are talented kids all over LI.
Some don't consider the catholic 2 because of religious reasons, some just want to play in the home HS, others just did not take the entrance test, and still others might not have done well on the tests.
Interesting you put WI in the elite group. The showed poorly last year and lost to Hauppauge yesterday. Smithtown (spanked GC last weekend!) and Northport are much better programs and you call them "good"? SWR although troubled this year has also done better than "good"!
You make no sense in your assessment of good vs. great programs!
To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!
You are missing the point. The original poster was saying that comparing Chaminade to Massapequa is like comparing a travel team with a town team (Although, a very good town team)It is very hard in this day and age for a public school to keep up with these private, high cost, big alumni $$ schools. No one should take anything away from Chaminade, they are a machine. A very well funded, coached, privileged machine.
Need I point to the consistently great public (Elite) programs (well coached and deeply talented) on Long Island such as WI, WM, Farm, Manhasett, GC, and other consistently very good public teams like Smithtown W, Northport, SWR, Syosset, Wantagh.
Almost always, one of theses town teams finishes the year ranked ahead of both Chaminade and St. Anthony's in the national rankings.
Sooo stop; there are talented kids all over LI.
Some don't consider the catholic 2 because of religious reasons, some just want to play in the home HS, others just did not take the entrance test, and still others might not have done well on the tests.
Interesting you put WI in the elite group. The showed poorly last year and lost to Hauppauge yesterday. Smithtown (spanked GC last weekend!) and Northport are much better programs and you call them "good"? SWR although troubled this year has also done better than "good"!
You make no sense in your assessment of good vs. great programs!
To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!
Makes sense now, doesn't it?
You are missing the point. The original poster was saying that comparing Chaminade to Massapequa is like comparing a travel team with a town team (Although, a very good town team)It is very hard in this day and age for a public school to keep up with these private, high cost, big alumni $$ schools. No one should take anything away from Chaminade, they are a machine. A very well funded, coached, privileged machin.
Need I point to the consistently great public (Elite) programs (well coached and deeply talented) on Long Island such as WI, WM, Farm, Manhasett, GC, and other consistently very good public teams like Smithtown W, Northport, SWR, Syosset, Wantagh.
Almost always, one of theses town teams finishes the year ranked ahead of both Chaminade and St. Anthony's in the national rankings.
Sooo stop; there are talented kids all over LI.
Some don't consider the catholic 2 because of religious reasons, some just want to play in the home HS, others just did not take the entrance test, and still others might not have done well on the tests.
Interesting you put WI in the elite group. The showed poorly last year and lost to Hauppauge yesterday. Smithtown (spanked GC last weekend!) and Northport are much better programs and you call them "good"? SWR although troubled this year has also done better than "good"!
You make no sense in your assessment of good vs. great programs!
To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!
Makes sense now, doesn't it?
I only have one thing to say: What have you done for me lately? Can't hide in past success forever!
is it me, but why isnt it good enough to be on a top 10 team? There will always be someone better whether this year or next. Y minimize the talents of these boys because their team isnt on the top. Those top boys know each other and many are friends. they will play many years togther even after HS and College because they like it and have a bond.
That is what always made lax great. remeber the game of life goes on far longer than lax and having friend with common interest is always a goo thing
You are missing the point. The original poster was saying that comparing Chaminade to Massapequa is like comparing a travel team with a town team (Although, a very good town team)It is very hard in this day and age for a public school to keep up with these private, high cost, big alumni $$ schools. No one should take anything away from Chaminade, they are a machine. A very well funded, coached, privileged machin.
Need I point to the consistently great public (Elite) programs (well coached and deeply talented) on Long Island such as WI, WM, Farm, Manhasett, GC, and other consistently very good public teams like Smithtown W, Northport, SWR, Syosset, Wantagh.
Almost always, one of theses town teams finishes the year ranked ahead of both Chaminade and St. Anthony's in the national rankings.
Sooo stop; there are talented kids all over LI.
Some don't consider the catholic 2 because of religious reasons, some just want to play in the home HS, others just did not take the entrance test, and still others might not have done well on the tests.
Interesting you put WI in the elite group. The showed poorly last year and lost to Hauppauge yesterday. Smithtown (spanked GC last weekend!) and Northport are much better programs and you call them "good"? SWR although troubled this year has also done better than "good"!
You make no sense in your assessment of good vs. great programs!
To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!
Makes sense now, doesn't it?
I only have one thing to say: What have you done for me lately? Can't hide in past success forever!
Since you are quoting songs from 25 years ago (Paula Abdul), I have another for you... "Can't touch This".
It will be many years before another team will even sniff the success that the Elite LI teams have had.
The next teams on the top 50 list would be:
Comseqogue 5 X
Cold Spring 4 X
Farmindale 4 X
Huntington 4 X
Pequa 4 X
SWR 4 X
Apologies to Northport, Smithtown, Syosset, and Wantagh fans.
The Public "Leagues" are a joke. However, there are great players who come out of of the Public High Schools on the Island. Many great players come from non traditional High School Programs. The top 15 - 20 "depending on the year" Public School Teams are all very good. The Top 5 - 10 are very very good. The problem is the current structure does not not allow for good competition between the best teams.
Your "elite" WI just lost its second consecutive game 10-6 to Stown East! Keep living in the past!
Suffolk "A" weak again. Only the top two are good.
Suffolk "A" weak again. Only the top two are good.
The only weak one is YOU! Only a complete jackass would make a comment like that hiding behind his keyboard! loser!
Suffolk "A" weak again. Only the top two are good.
The only weak one is YOU! Only a complete jackass would make a comment like that hiding behind his keyboard! loser!
Smithtown West and Ward Melville are very good teams. Are there any other strong teams in the league? Please name another competitive team.
Why are you so angry? Do you think Suffolk "A" is a competitive league? It is always the same, two or three teams are strong. The other teams in the league compete with each other but not with the top teams.
It is the same in every league on the Island. Two or three teams at the top and then all of the rest. As another poster pointed out, "It is always the same teams".
Garden City
West Islip
St Anthony's
Ward Mwlville
Chaminade
Manhasset
Are very good teams just about every year. (West Islip is currently down)
Comseqogue
CSH
Farmindale
Huntington
Massapequa
SWR
Are as good as the top teams once every few years.
Northport
Smithtown
Syosset
Wantagh
Are as good from time to time (1 in 5 to 10 years)
There are more than 100 High School Lacrosse Teams on Long Island. Year in and year out the same 6 - 12 teams are the strongest. Every once in a while one of the other teams has a good year. It has been this way for a long time.
Great players come from all over the Island, not just from the best teams. Many kids from non traditional programs become standout players in college.
You can believe your league is competitive all you want but the facts say otherwise.
Suffolk "A" weak again. Only the top two are good.
The only weak one is YOU! Only a complete jackass would make a comment like that hiding behind his keyboard! loser!
Smithtown West and Ward Melville are very good teams. Are there any other strong teams in the league? Please name another competitive team.
Why are you so angry? Do you think Suffolk "A" is a competitive league? It is always the same, two or three teams are strong. The other teams in the league compete with each other but not with the top teams.
It is the same in every league on the Island. Two or three teams at the top and then all of the rest. As another poster pointed out, "It is always the same teams".
Garden City
West Islip
St Anthony's
Ward Mwlville
Chaminade
Manhasset
Are very good teams just about every year. (West Islip is currently down)
Comseqogue
CSH
Farmindale
Huntington
Massapequa
SWR
Are as good as the top teams once every few years.
Northport
Smithtown
Syosset
Wantagh
Are as good from time to time (1 in 5 to 10 years)
There are more than 100 High School Lacrosse Teams on Long Island. Year in and year out the same 6 - 12 teams are the strongest. Every once in a while one of the other teams has a good year. It has been this way for a long time.
Great players come from all over the Island, not just from the best teams. Many kids from non traditional programs become standout players in college.
You can believe your league is competitive all you want but the facts say otherwise.
"Once every few years"
Actually, the fact is Smithtown West lost to WM in Suffolk county championship last year. They will win at the minimum, the Long Island championship this year, and probably the state title. Next year they will not be good as all their key players will graduate, kind like WM.
"Good every year"
WI is 0-2 to teams you consider "weak". "Always the same teams"??
WM will not be top dog this year!
Northport has always had a competitive team, and represents with a strong showing year after year with close, competitive games. It is a contest that is always circled on the schedule.
Sachem North has a very strong team, and represents a challenging contest among the better Suffolk A.
Bayshore is also a formidable opponent.
Smithtown East will be good this year, although they have a young team consisting mostly of freshman and sophomore starters. Next couple years, they will be a top team. Another example of how thing will continue to change.
Inside Lacrosse considers Suffolk county among the most competitive leagues.
YOU have no idea what you're talking about! There are NOT only 2 competitive teams in Suffolk A. The top 6-8 are very close. It will be a great season of Lax here in Suffolk A. Many competitive games and probably some upsets. Makes it exciting!
For a jerk like you to sit there and make stupid claims that have no merit is ridiculous!
Whitman had a strong energy throughout the game, up 5-1 at half. the wind was a huge factor in the game. not making any excuses. Bayshore didn't quit.An official missed a clear Defensless player against Bayshore which wouldve put Whitman man up and they surely wouldve one.
Suffolk "A" weak again. Only the top two are good.
The only weak one is YOU! Only a complete jackass would make a comment like that hiding behind his keyboard! loser!
Smithtown West and Ward Melville are very good teams. Are there any other strong teams in the league? Please name another competitive team.
Why are you so angry? Do you think Suffolk "A" is a competitive league? It is always the same, two or three teams are strong. The other teams in the league compete with each other but not with the top teams.
It is the same in every league on the Island. Two or three teams at the top and then all of the rest. As another poster pointed out, "It is always the same teams".
Garden City
West Islip
St Anthony's
Ward Mwlville
Chaminade
Manhasset
Are very good teams just about every year. (West Islip is currently down)
Comseqogue
CSH
Farmindale
Huntington
Massapequa
SWR
Are as good as the top teams once every few years.
Northport
Smithtown
Syosset
Wantagh
Are as good from time to time (1 in 5 to 10 years)
There are more than 100 High School Lacrosse Teams on Long Island. Year in and year out the same 6 - 12 teams are the strongest. Every once in a while one of the other teams has a good year. It has been this way for a long time.
Great players come from all over the Island, not just from the best teams. Many kids from non traditional programs become standout players in college.
You can believe your league is competitive all you want but the facts say otherwise.
"Once every few years"
Actually, the fact is Smithtown West lost to WM in Suffolk county championship last year. They will win at the minimum, the Long Island championship this year, and probably the state title. Next year they will not be good as all their key players will graduate, kind like WM.
"Good every year"
WI is 0-2 to teams you consider "weak". "Always the same teams"??
WM will not be top dog this year!
Northport has always had a competitive team, and represents with a strong showing year after year with close, competitive games. It is a contest that is always circled on the schedule.
Sachem North has a very strong team, and represents a challenging contest among the better Suffolk A.
Bayshore is also a formidable opponent.
Smithtown East will be good this year, although they have a young team consisting mostly of freshman and sophomore starters. Next couple years, they will be a top team. Another example of how thing will continue to change.
Inside Lacrosse considers Suffolk county among the most competitive leagues.
YOU have no idea what you're talking about! There are NOT only 2 competitive teams in Suffolk A. The top 6-8 are very close. It will be a great season of Lax here in Suffolk A. Many competitive games and probably some upsets. Makes it exciting!
For a jerk like you to sit there and make stupid claims that have no merit is ridiculous!
Quick search:
Suffolk "A" Champions
Here are the facts, in the past 28 years (since 1986)
here is who has won it.
Ward Melville - 14 times
West Islip - 9 times
Northport - 2 times (none in past 10 years)
Sachem - 2 times (none in past 15 years)
Smithtown - 1 time (2003)
In the past 10 years how many different teams have made it two the finals?
Top two maybe three teams are good.
I'm at the CSH vs Syosset game 3-3 at the half. Our coach is loud and yells, but the CSH coach is out of control. How do they let that guy scream at kids the way he does? Is he also a teacher?
Riverhead will be good this year too!
Great to see so many competitive teams in Suffolk A!
Suffolk "A" weak again. Only the top two are good.
The only weak one is YOU! Only a complete jackass would make a comment like that hiding behind his keyboard! loser!
Smithtown West and Ward Melville are very good teams. Are there any other strong teams in the league? Please name another competitive team.
Why are you so angry? Do you think Suffolk "A" is a competitive league? It is always the same, two or three teams are strong. The other teams in the league compete with each other but not with the top teams.
It is the same in every league on the Island. Two or three teams at the top and then all of the rest. As another poster pointed out, "It is always the same teams".
Garden City
West Islip
St Anthony's
Ward Mwlville
Chaminade
Manhasset
Are very good teams just about every year. (West Islip is currently down)
Comseqogue
CSH
Farmindale
Huntington
Massapequa
SWR
Are as good as the top teams once every few years.
Northport
Smithtown
Syosset
Wantagh
Are as good from time to time (1 in 5 to 10 years)
There are more than 100 High School Lacrosse Teams on Long Island. Year in and year out the same 6 - 12 teams are the strongest. Every once in a while one of the other teams has a good year. It has been this way for a long time.
Great players come from all over the Island, not just from the best teams. Many kids from non traditional programs become standout players in college.
You can believe your league is competitive all you want but the facts say otherwise.
"Once every few years"
Actually, the fact is Smithtown West lost to WM in Suffolk county championship last year. They will win at the minimum, the Long Island championship this year, and probably the state title. Next year they will not be good as all their key players will graduate, kind like WM.
"Good every year"
WI is 0-2 to teams you consider "weak". "Always the same teams"??
WM will not be top dog this year!
Northport has always had a competitive team, and represents with a strong showing year after year with close, competitive games. It is a contest that is always circled on the schedule.
Sachem North has a very strong team, and represents a challenging contest among the better Suffolk A.
Bayshore is also a formidable opponent.
Smithtown East will be good this year, although they have a young team consisting mostly of freshman and sophomore starters. Next couple years, they will be a top team. Another example of how thing will continue to change.
Inside Lacrosse considers Suffolk county among the most competitive leagues.
YOU have no idea what you're talking about! There are NOT only 2 competitive teams in Suffolk A. The top 6-8 are very close. It will be a great season of Lax here in Suffolk A. Many competitive games and probably some upsets. Makes it exciting!
For a jerk like you to sit there and make stupid claims that have no merit is ridiculous!
Quick search:
Suffolk "A" Champions
Here are the facts, in the past 28 years (since 1986)
here is who has won it.
Ward Melville - 14 times
West Islip - 9 times
Northport - 2 times (none in past 10 years)
Sachem - 2 times (none in past 15 years)
Smithtown - 1 time (2003)
In the past 10 years how many different teams have made it two the finals?
Top two maybe three teams are good.
Why don't we concentrate on THIS year! It's great for all those schools that have won past championships, but that does not mean that there are not other very good competitive teams in Suffolk A. Certainly more than 2! Now you say maybe 3. So which is it? And what happens at 3,4,5? The all of a sudden become weak? Maybe you should ask the college coaches about these weak teams that have been heavily recruited. Maybe we can compare the college commit list from teams like Smithtown West and East as well as Northport to WM and WI. You might be surprised!
Please stop!
Smithtown East has 1 freshman and 2 sophomore starters. The rest are juniors and seniors.
Smithtown West has 1 freshman starter.
Get your facts straight.
Suffolk "A" weak again. Only the top two are good.
The only weak one is YOU! Only a complete jackass would make a comment like that hiding behind his keyboard! loser!
Smithtown West and Ward Melville are very good teams. Are there any other strong teams in the league? Please name another competitive team.
Why are you so angry? Do you think Suffolk "A" is a competitive league? It is always the same, two or three teams are strong. The other teams in the league compete with each other but not with the top teams.
It is the same in every league on the Island. Two or three teams at the top and then all of the rest. As another poster pointed out, "It is always the same teams".
Garden City
West Islip
St Anthony's
Ward Mwlville
Chaminade
Manhasset
Are very good teams just about every year. (West Islip is currently down)
Comseqogue
CSH
Farmindale
Huntington
Massapequa
SWR
Are as good as the top teams once every few years.
Northport
Smithtown
Syosset
Wantagh
Are as good from time to time (1 in 5 to 10 years)
There are more than 100 High School Lacrosse Teams on Long Island. Year in and year out the same 6 - 12 teams are the strongest. Every once in a while one of the other teams has a good year. It has been this way for a long time.
Great players come from all over the Island, not just from the best teams. Many kids from non traditional programs become standout players in college.
You can believe your league is competitive all you want but the facts say otherwise.
"Once every few years"
Actually, the fact is Smithtown West lost to WM in Suffolk county championship last year. They will win at the minimum, the Long Island championship this year, and probably the state title. Next year they will not be good as all their key players will graduate, kind like WM.
"Good every year"
WI is 0-2 to teams you consider "weak". "Always the same teams"??
WM will not be top dog this year!
Northport has always had a competitive team, and represents with a strong showing year after year with close, competitive games. It is a contest that is always circled on the schedule.
Sachem North has a very strong team, and represents a challenging contest among the better Suffolk A.
Bayshore is also a formidable opponent.
Smithtown East will be good this year, although they have a young team consisting mostly of freshman and sophomore starters. Next couple years, they will be a top team. Another example of how thing will continue to change.
Inside Lacrosse considers Suffolk county among the most competitive leagues.
YOU have no idea what you're talking about! There are NOT only 2 competitive teams in Suffolk A. The top 6-8 are very close. It will be a great season of Lax here in Suffolk A. Many competitive games and probably some upsets. Makes it exciting!
For a jerk like you to sit there and make stupid claims that have no merit is ridiculous!
Quick search:
Suffolk "A" Champions
Here are the facts, in the past 28 years (since 1986)
here is who has won it.
Ward Melville - 14 times
West Islip - 9 times
Northport - 2 times (none in past 10 years)
Sachem - 2 times (none in past 15 years)
Smithtown - 1 time (2003)
In the past 10 years how many different teams have made it two the finals?
Top two maybe three teams are good.
Why don't we concentrate on THIS year! It's great for all those schools that have won past championships, but that does not mean that there are not other very good competitive teams in Suffolk A. Certainly more than 2! Now you say maybe 3. So which is it? And what happens at 3,4,5? The all of a sudden become weak? Maybe you should ask the college coaches about these weak teams that have been heavily recruited. Maybe we can compare the college commit list from teams like Smithtown West and East as well as Northport to WM and WI. You might be surprised!
Please stop!
OK, lets look at this year. There will only be two or three good teams.
My guess is two.
Not looking at individual players, looking at competitive teams. Good players come from all over.
Did Cold Spring Harbor beat syosset?
Did Cold Spring Harbor beat syosset?
Great game by both teams. Syosset was ahead a lot of the game but CSH came back to tie it in last quarter and then won in OT
Well matched teams w a lot of talent on both sides .
So I guess that since Garden City beat Pequa today and Stwn west spanked GC last week, Nassau County is made up all weak teams this year. You would agree, right ? Can't wait to here this response! Hopefully you are starting to see how silly you sound!
No, I will say that Smithtown is one of the good teams in Suffolk "A" and that Massapequa and Garden City are two of the top teams in their respective leagues.
I think that you and I define "good" differently. You or another poster described Bayshore as a tough opponent. For whom are they a tough opponent? Not for Ward Melville, maybe for Brentwood or Middle Country.
I asked the question before? How many different teams have made it to the Suffolk "A" finals in the past 10 years?
I'm at the CSH vs Syosset game 3-3 at the half. Our coach is loud and yells, but the CSH coach is out of control. How do they let that guy scream at kids the way he does? Is he also a teacher?
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No, I will say that Smithtown is one of the good teams in Suffolk "A" and that Massapequa and Garden City are two of the top teams in their respective leagues.
I think that you and I define "good" differently. You or another poster described Bayshore as a tough opponent. For whom are they a tough opponent? Not for Ward Melville, maybe for Brentwood or Middle Country.
I asked the question before? How many different teams have made it to the Suffolk "A" finals in the past 10 years?
Who cares about how many times a school made it to the A finals in the past!!
This is a new year, with new kids/teams excelling !
Following your train of thought, Smithtown West is the only great, not "good" team on LI, besides maybe Chaminade. After all WM lost handily to Cham, witch should eliminate them from the great group. Smithtown East, Pequa, St. As, GC, WM are the only other preseason Nationally ranked teams in the top 25 on LI.
East, Pequa, GC, WM, St. A's have all lost games now, leaving only Smithtown West
Why bother playing anymore games,as they are clearly the only great team! Lets end it now and give them the crown so you can add them to the stars of the past list and we can move onto next year! Or better yet have Stown West play Chaminade. Now that would be the only game worth watching, agree?
St Anthony's loses to immaculata out of NJ. Not
a great start
Massapequa will deliver the next loss to GC this year. GC is not the team they were these last few years. Granted its still GC and they will probably win their conference as always. Dont see too much competition for GC in league games. Maybe wantagh , long beach or Carey could make it interesting. Just dont think those 2 are deep enough to topple GC. But GC can't hang with the big boys this year. They have been on the decline and we will see it this year.
What happened pequa? Too many chiefs smoking from the same pipe? Guess we'll have to see if you can hang with the big boys.
Since 2005, that is as far back as a quick search revealed. Here are the numbers.
In the past 9 seasons here are all of the teams that have been able to compete in the Suffolk "A" County Finals.
West Islip - 8 times
Ward Melville - 8 times
Smithtown West - 2 times
If the league was competitive some other teams would be in the mix.
Since 2005, that is as far back as a quick search revealed. Here are the numbers.
In the past 9 seasons here are all of the teams that have been able to compete in the Suffolk "A" County Finals.
West Islip - 8 times
Ward Melville - 8 times
Smithtown West - 2 times
If the league was competitive some other teams would be in the mix.
You keep stating past accomplishments. We know!
You don't attempt to address the present!
West Islip and WM are not what they were in the past.
There are other very good team this year!
Why can't you admit this, stats are there to support!
Since 2005, that is as far back as a quick search revealed. Here are the numbers.
In the past 9 seasons here are all of the teams that have been able to compete in the Suffolk "A" County Finals.
West Islip - 8 times
Ward Melville - 8 times
Smithtown West - 2 times
If the league was competitive some other teams would be in the mix.
You keep stating past accomplishments. We know!
You don't attempt to address the present!
West Islip and WM are not what they were in the past.
There are other very good team this year!
Why can't you admit this, stats are there to support!
It is not possible that West Islip is not what they were in the past.
I have heard about their winning formula many times. "Craig and company win because they keep the boys together in the summer". Has something changed in West Islip? Have the HS players not been playing together in the summer the past couple of years?
As for the other debate, I would agree that Smithtown West is very good this year. Ward Melville also looks strong. Can any other teams in Suffolk A compete against GC, Manhasset, SA, Chaminade, Massapequa? I don't know, Maybe NP.
Can't agree with you on the league being strong. A few strong teams but like all the other leagues on Long Island not deep. I think they should make a "power conference".
Since 2005, that is as far back as a quick search revealed. Here are the numbers.
In the past 9 seasons here are all of the teams that have been able to compete in the Suffolk "A" County Finals.
West Islip - 8 times
Ward Melville - 8 times
Smithtown West - 2 times
If the league was competitive some other teams would be in the mix.
You keep stating past accomplishments. We know!
You don't attempt to address the present!
West Islip and WM are not what they were in the past.
There are other very good team this year!
Why can't you admit this, stats are there to support!
It is not possible that West Islip is not what they were in the past.
I have heard about their winning formula many times. "Craig and company win because they keep the boys together in the summer". Has something changed in West Islip? Have the HS players not been playing together in the summer the past couple of years?
As for the other debate, I would agree that Smithtown West is very good this year. Ward Melville also looks strong. Can any other teams in Suffolk A compete against GC, Manhasset, SA, Chaminade, Massapequa? I don't know, Maybe NP.
Can't agree with you on the league being strong. A few strong teams but like all the other leagues on Long Island not deep. I think they should make a "power conference".
First Smithtown W was "good" now they are "very good", yet they handily take down any team on the island except maybe Cham.
WM can not compete with top Nassau teams this year, been there done that.
There are several teams in Suffolk a that will be competitive (at least 5) and some are nationally ranked , but you still insist on calling them weak. The only unbeatable team this year is SW, they are the WM of last year, and next year, it will be someone else!
And as for WI, News Flash: Other boys stay together in the summer from kindergarten on as well. For example, Smithtown and WM
Conference is just fine! They boys get to do a few non-leauge games with Nassau and sometimes upstate opponents which helps to see how the stand against other areas.
There are two sides to the debate.
One side is supports their argument with facts.
One side is based on opinion, misinformation and speculation.
Until more than 3 teams in a league of 26 can compete consistently the league can not be considered strong.
Ask D 1 Coaches how good Suffolk is, Most will say the Best Public school talent in the country
Forget the top couple teams, You have middle of the road teams getting a lot of d 1 commits
There are two sides to the debate.
One side is supports their argument with facts.
One side is based on opinion, misinformation and speculation.
Until more than 3 teams in a league of 26 can compete consistently the league can not be considered strong.
Don't you get it? There ARE more than three good teams in Suffolk! Your only "stats" are based on the past. Did you not raelize that most of the boys who brought those championships have graduated! Every year brings in new talent and ecitement! Nobody talked about SW a few years ago, now they are untouchable, WM and WI are not the "great" teams they once were, but still very good. Teams like Northport, Smithtown East, Sachem North are very competitive. I am done with the discussion for now, you will see I am right as the season progresses. There will be many close games in the top tier, with the exception of SW, which will win all easily (this year!) I have provided facts from THIS YEAR! All you have done is provide information from PAST YEARS where there were DIFFERENT players and coaches in many cases too!
I'm at the CSH vs Syosset game 3-3 at the half. Our coach is loud and yells, but the CSH coach is out of control. How do they let that guy scream at kids the way he does? Is he also a teacher?
one of the funnier posts of all times
It's not funny if its your kid being screamed at.
Didn't little CSH just play Smithtown West to a competitive 8-5 game? Either Smithtown is not as good as all the hype or CSH is one of the better teams in Nassau and erhgo LI? And by the way, once again Nassau small schools, B and C have won all the top tier games vs. the top 3 rated Nassau A schools. MAssapequa, Syosset and hicksville...
I'm at the CSH vs Syosset game 3-3 at the half. Our coach is loud and yells, but the CSH coach is out of control. How do they let that guy scream at kids the way he does? Is he also a teacher?
one of the funnier posts of all times
It's not funny if its your kid being screamed at.
Coaches yell, and scream and it is not fun whether or not it is your kid. The kid that got screamed at early in the game came back and scored the OT goal, 20 years from now he will remember that goal but he probably will not remember that #2 is a lefty.... Also remember coaches do not yell when you hustle and make the right play so if you don't like getting screamed at don't be lazy and don't make stupid plays.
A previous poster mentioned that a "Power Conference" should be created. I feel that they should get away from keeping all the teams in their respective conferences based upon school enrollment.
Division/Conference 1 should have the best teams regardless of school enrollment. The bottom 4 teams at the end of the year would move down to Division/Conference 2 and the top 4 from Division/Conference 2 would move up to Division 1.
The 2 Divisions/Conferences, as well as the 4 team movement is just an example. You could create multiple Divisions/Conferences and decide what the right amount of movement is.
This is not a new idea, I know this is how my high school sports worked in the city back in the early 80's. I think this would create more competitive games all around. Why should a perennila top team have to play a perennial middle of teh road or lower team each year just because of student enrollment.
A previous poster mentioned that a "Power Conference" should be created. I feel that they should get away from keeping all the teams in their respective conferences based upon school enrollment.
Division/Conference 1 should have the best teams regardless of school enrollment. The bottom 4 teams at the end of the year would move down to Division/Conference 2 and the top 4 from Division/Conference 2 would move up to Division 1.
The 2 Divisions/Conferences, as well as the 4 team movement is just an example. You could create multiple Divisions/Conferences and decide what the right amount of movement is.
This is not a new idea, I know this is how my high school sports worked in the city back in the early 80's. I think this would create more competitive games all around. Why should a perennila top team have to play a perennial middle of teh road or lower team each year just because of student enrollment.
From Inside Lacrosse -
"What to Watch: Northport (N.Y.) at Ward Melville (N.Y.) - The Tigers have received a solid amount of hype in the preseason - knocking off the defending champs will be a step in the right direction to prove that Suffolk County isn’t just Smithtown West and then everybody else. The possession battle will be huge, look for Northport’s Austin Henningsen (Maryland) to win the majority of the draws."
Not sure how this will prove "Suffolk isn't Smithtown West and everybody else." I think Ward Melville or Northport or someone else beating Smithtown West would prove it.
Even Inside Lacrosse doesn't think the league is deep. I think Ward Melville will beat Smithtown West but who will beat Ward Melville? After watching WM Vs Chaminade on MSG I will say they are very good. Three ligit players and a bunch of good players. SW also lookd good Vs Garden City but I thiknk Melville will win. Don't know about NP but we will all find out on Thursday.
Competitive? Suffolk "A" the SEC of HS Lacrosse.
West Islip 18 - Lindenhurst 5
Walt Whit 20 - Copiague 3
Hauppauge 21 - Brentwood 4
Ward Melville 18 - Middle Country 9
Power Conference can't come soon enough.
Competitive? Suffolk "A" the SEC of HS Lacrosse.
West Islip 18 - Lindenhurst 5
Walt Whit 20 - Copiague 3
Hauppauge 21 - Brentwood 4
Ward Melville 18 - Middle Country 9
Power Conference can't come soon enough.
Problem is, you are not comparing top tier teams! Point is mute!
Competitive? Suffolk "A" the SEC of HS Lacrosse.
West Islip 18 - Lindenhurst 5
Walt Whit 20 - Copiague 3
Hauppauge 21 - Brentwood 4
Ward Melville 18 - Middle Country 9
Power Conference can't come soon enough.
Problem is, you are not comparing top tier teams! Point is mute!
you are missing the point, if they had a power conference strong teams from A-B and C would all play each other and eliminate a lot of these one sided games.
Competitive? Suffolk "A" the SEC of HS Lacrosse.
West Islip 18 - Lindenhurst 5
Walt Whit 20 - Copiague 3
Hauppauge 21 - Brentwood 4
Ward Melville 18 - Middle Country 9
Power Conference can't come soon enough.
Problem is, you are not comparing top tier teams! Point is mute!
I don't think the point is moot. There are some very strong teams on the Island but the problem is that they do not all play in the same conference. Each conference usually has two to four competitive teams and most of the time it is the same teams.
In Nassau County,
Massapequa has been in the county championship 9 times in the past 14 years winning 5 titles.
Garden City has been in the county championship 13 times in the past 14 years winning 9 titles. (they have won the past 8)
Cold Spring Harbor &
Manhasset have each been in the county championship 11 times in 14 years and each have won 6 titles. (note that Manhasset changed conferences)
There has been more competition in the Large School Conference with Farmingdale, Hicksville and Syosset all making multiple trips to the championship game 6,5 and 4 times. Farmingdale won all six times that they wire in it, Hicksville has 1 championship and Syosset won 2 out of 4.
Lynbrook has made it to the Championship 6 times in 13 years and has won 3 titles. (two different conferences)
Friends Academy has made it to the finals 3 times in the past 3 years and has won the title 1 time. I think they filled the void after Manhasset got moved up.
Manhasset has been of in 2 the past 3 since moving up.
Massapequa has been to the championship 4 years in a row.
Cold Spring Harbor 10 years in a row.
Garden City 9 years in a row.
Competitive? Suffolk "A" the SEC of HS Lacrosse.
West Islip 18 - Lindenhurst 5
Walt Whit 20 - Copiague 3
Hauppauge 21 - Brentwood 4
Ward Melville 18 - Middle Country 9
Power Conference can't come soon enough.
Problem is, you are not comparing top tier teams! Point is mute!
you are missing the point, if they had a power conference strong teams from A-B and C would all play each other and eliminate a lot of these one sided games.
The other games would be competitive as well. Although the teams would not be as strong (as the power conference teams) they would have competitive games with each other.
I stand corrected...not a hater just didn't think GC had what it takes this year.
I stand corrected...not a hater just didn't think GC had what it takes this year.
I am always amazed at how the GC coaches somehow figure it all out when it counts. It really is a team approach there. Yes they have some studs every year, sometimes more than others; but the team itself coalesces as the season progresses and its always a pleasure to witness.
I stand corrected...not a hater just didn't think GC had what it takes this year.
I am always amazed at how the GC coaches somehow figure it all out when it counts. It really is a team approach there. Yes they have some studs every year, sometimes more than others; but the team itself coalesces as the season progresses and its always a pleasure to witness.
Please.
Looks like there is a changing of the guard "for this year anyway" in Suffolk A .
Good for Northport. Maybe the playoffs will be interesting this year.
I stand corrected...not a hater just didn't think GC had what it takes this year.
I am always amazed at how the GC coaches somehow figure it all out when it counts. It really is a team approach there. Yes they have some studs every year, sometimes more than others; but the team itself coalesces as the season progresses and its always a pleasure to witness.
Please.
Said the jealous daddy....
Chaminade 10 Ward Melville 5.
No surprises there. WM is just not going to cut it this year. They are too young of a team and not very big in size. SW should handle them easily and Northport will give them a problem as well.
Problem with WM is it is now a daddy run team. Daddy's call and there son is on the team.
I'm not suer if either of the above posts are accurate but I will say that Ward Melville Parent behavior was deplorable at the Chaminade game. I am sure not all Ward Melville parents whine and complain but there were more than a few on saturday who did not stop the entire game. I guess if they only whine when they are not winning it wont become a problem because I think they only lose one or two games per year (if that many). Although a notch below Chaminade on Saturday I think Ward Melville will be fine this year.
Northport easily beats WM. SW should do the same, perhaps Happaugue. The losses will keep coming
Competitive? Suffolk "A" the SEC of HS Lacrosse.
West Islip 18 - Lindenhurst 5
Walt Whit 20 - Copiague 3
Hauppauge 21 - Brentwood 4
Ward Melville 18 - Middle Country 9
Power Conference can't come soon enough.
Problem is, you are not comparing top tier teams! Point is mute!
The point can't talk??
Great to see Northport win over Ward Melville and Nick Roros with a hat trick. Cant wait for the games against Smithtown West
I stand corrected...not a hater just didn't think GC had what it takes this year.
I am always amazed at how the GC coaches somehow figure it all out when it counts. It really is a team approach there. Yes they have some studs every year, sometimes more than others; but the team itself coalesces as the season progresses and its always a pleasure to witness.
Please.
Said the jealous daddy....
Not from GC and I don't understand the Jealous Daddy comment.
Do you really think it is the coaches?
Northport lost their Senior Goalie... Never a good sign
To Mr Suufolk A weak :
Whatcha thinking after the latest game scores, I bet you are reevaluating your pathetic comment! Fact is the following teams are stong competitors.
Riverhead
Northport
Smithtown East
Smithtown West
Sachem North
Ward Meiville
On The outside looking in:
Hauppauge
West Islip
Thank You!
Thinking that maybe Ward Melville is not as strong as I thought. Thinking that Northport is better than I thought. Smithtown West is Strong.
If there are multiple upsets and the playoffs are competitive maybe the league finally has some depth. As of now, I still do not think there are more than a few competitive teams in a 26 team league. As always, the top two are very good.
Thinking that maybe Ward Melville is not as strong as I thought. Thinking that Northport is better than I thought. Smithtown West is Strong.
If there are multiple upsets and the playoffs are competitive maybe the league finally has some depth. As of now, I still do not think there are more than a few competitive teams in a 26 team league. As always, the top two are very good.
So would so still say Suffolk a "weak"? C'mon admit you were premature in your comment! There are at least 5 that canplay ball. Will be interesting to see what the next two weeks bring. At least we can agree on that!
Lacrosse is all about the coaches on Long Island... No question about it.
Lacrosse is all about the coaches on Long Island... No question about it.
Not the players? Some terrible coaches at very good programs right now, will not name them out of respect, but they should stay in the classroom and be mediocre there!
Lacrosse is all about the coaches on Long Island... No question about it.
I do not agree, you have some great coaches with no talent and some bad coaches with great talent and the teams with the talent will usually always win either way, you get a team with great talent and great coaching and you get last years WM, you get two equal teams and coaching can be a big factor. But by and large I would take a group of talented players over a good coach any day of the week
Lacrosse is all about the coaches on Long Island... No question about it.
I do not agree, you have some great coaches with no talent and some bad coaches with great talent and the teams with the talent will usually always win either way, you get a team with great talent and great coaching and you get last years WM, you get two equal teams and coaching can be a big factor. But by and large I would take a group of talented players over a good coach any day of the week
There are three variable involved. Players(talent), coaching and competition.
Last year the biggest change in variables for Ward Melville was the competition.
Lacrosse is all about the coaches on Long Island... No question about it.
I do not agree, you have some great coaches with no talent and some bad coaches with great talent and the teams with the talent will usually always win either way, you get a team with great talent and great coaching and you get last years WM, you get two equal teams and coaching can be a big factor. But by and large I would take a group of talented players over a good coach any day of the week
There are three variable involved. Players(talent), coaching and competition.
Last year the biggest change in variables for Ward Melville was the competition.
I understand but do not agree only in that 8 other teams in Suffolk A played virtually the same competition and WM had the better results, I think that players (Talent) is the biggest variable and way more important then coaching more then a few LI coaches could have taken that group and won but that same group of coaches could not take a 3-13 team and make them win.
Lacrosse is all about the coaches on Long Island... No question about it.
I do not agree, you have some great coaches with no talent and some bad coaches with great talent and the teams with the talent will usually always win either way, you get a team with great talent and great coaching and you get last years WM, you get two equal teams and coaching can be a big factor. But by and large I would take a group of talented players over a good coach any day of the week
There are three variable involved. Players(talent), coaching and competition.
Last year the biggest change in variables for Ward Melville was the competition.
I understand but do not agree only in that 8 other teams in Suffolk A played virtually the same competition and WM had the better results, I think that players (Talent) is the biggest variable and way more important then coaching more then a few LI coaches could have taken that group and won but that same group of coaches could not take a 3-13 team and make them win.
competition = West Islip.
Ward Melville had the same coaches and a ton of talent for many years but could not get past West Islip in the playoffs.
West Islip was not very good last year and neither was anyone else including West Genny.
Good players produce against good competition. The political appointees pad their stats Vs mediocre competition.
Really?? There are great athletes all over the Island.... How do you explain year in and year out success of the top public school lax programs ( manhasset, gc, wm, csh...)??
Spoiler alert: clearly it's not because those towns (manhasset,gc,wm,csh) have the best althletes
Coaching, coaching, coaching...
... Any of the forementioned school's coach would salivate given the D1 talent at a place like Northport
What makes them good year in and year out is the feeder system. These towns have big youth programs. Kids choose lacrosse over other sports. You dont see GC, Manhasset winning baseball championships. One of these programs no matter who was coaching would make the playoffs based on the division and schedule they play. As for other schools they have winning seasons based on the kids coming through. Every once in a while you have a good class at a school you would not expect and they have a good season or seasons until those kids graduate and then they dissappear again for years. Good luck Southside.
What makes them good year in and year out is the feeder system. These towns have big youth programs. Kids choose lacrosse over other sports. You dont see GC, Manhasset winning baseball championships. One of these programs no matter who was coaching would make the playoffs based on the division and schedule they play. As for other schools they have winning seasons based on the kids coming through. Every once in a while you have a good class at a school you would not expect and they have a good season or seasons until those kids graduate and then they dissappear again for years. Good luck Southside.
Not so much the feeder system as it is the extra work the kids put in. Wall ball, having a catch with dad, club team, camps, clinics, private lessons and playing year round. CSH, Manhasset, Garden City, Ward Melville, West Islip, Massapequa and some others that is what the kids do. At the smaller schools less likely to be strong at both lacrosse and baseball but at Massapequa and Ward Melville both can be very strong.
Predicting Smithtown East beats Whitman 15-4 today. Shouldn't be much competition for SE.
Texas father sues son's lacrosse coaches, alleges 'pay for play' scheme
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A Texas father unsatisfied with his son’s playing time on lacrosse teams has reportedly sued several coaches under federal anti-corruption laws, claiming they extorted families in exchange for playing time.
In a 39-page federal racketeering lawsuit filed late last month, attorney Bill Munck claims coaches with the Dallas Lacrosse Academy LLC and the Episcopal School of Dallas employed a “pay to play” scheme for student athletes like his son Billy to take the field, MyFoxDFW.com reports.
"Through the use of illegal and fraudulent conduct, including threats, intimidation and even extortion, defendants have tried to ensure that student athletes who want to play lacrosse in North Texas have to pay for play and have to go through the defendants' enterprise,” the lawsuit alleges. “ … Billy Munck was one of the victims of this criminal enterprise as were many others. Plaintiffs file this complaint to ensure that others, including Billy’s younger brother — a high school sophomore, do not suffer a similar fate.”
The lawsuit alleges that former Episcopal School of Dallas coach Kevin Barnicle and other instructors at the for-profit Dallas lacrosse academy threatened parents with less playing time on their son’s high school teams if they didn’t pony up for pricey private camps and training sessions at the academy.
Billy Munck played nine out of 11 varsity games during his junior year, but did not letter and left the school, according to the lawsuit, which also accuses the coaches and Dallas Lacrosse Academy of breaking NCAA rules.
"Some of the better players were asked to replace weaker DLA players already on the roster, and these players were asked to board airplanes, stay at hotels and play in recruiting tournaments under another player's name,” the lawsuit reads.
Laura Hart, the mother of a lacrosse player at Episcopal School of Dallas, told MyFoxDFW.com she hopes the lawsuit will simply go away.
"Get out there, play and move on with your life," she said.
Munck and the defendants named in the lawsuit, including six coaches, declined to discuss the lawsuit, MyFoxDFW.com reports.
Really?? There are great athletes all over the Island.... How do you explain year in and year out success of the top public school lax programs ( manhasset, gc, wm, csh...)??
Spoiler alert: clearly it's not because those towns (manhasset,gc,wm,csh) have the best althletes
Coaching, coaching, coaching...
... Any of the forementioned school's coach would salivate given the D1 talent at a place like Northport
More of a factor than coaching is the strength of the youth programs that feed the top High School programs. All of the HS powerhouses have great youth programs that introduce the game early and develop players way before HS. Drive by the fields in the communities of the top HS programs and you will see the bustle of activity on any given day.
Really?? There are great athletes all over the Island.... How do you explain year in and year out success of the top public school lax programs ( manhasset, gc, wm, csh...)??
Spoiler alert: clearly it's not because those towns (manhasset,gc,wm,csh) have the best althletes
Coaching, coaching, coaching...
... Any of the forementioned school's coach would salivate given the D1 talent at a place like Northport
More of a factor than coaching is the strength of the youth programs that feed the top High School programs. All of the HS powerhouses have great youth programs that introduce the game early and develop players way before HS. Drive by the fields in the communities of the top HS programs and you will see the bustle of activity on any given day.
Less to do with the youth program and more to do with the extra work put in by the kids and the families. The best kids in the towns listed below are the ones who do much more than play in the local youth program.
--"Not so much the feeder system as it is the extra work the kids put in. Wall ball, having a catch with dad, club team, camps, clinics, private lessons and playing year round. CSH, Manhasset, Garden City, Ward Melville, West Islip, Massapequa and some others that is what the kids do. At the smaller schools less likely to be strong at both lacrosse and baseball but at Massapequa and Ward Melville both can be very strong."
Yea well Whitman had the lead all game till the end. So much for no competition right? The number 2 seed in Suffolk snuck out with a win against the 15 seed.
Yea well Whitman had the lead all game till the end. So much for no competition right? The number 2 seed in Suffolk snuck out with a win against the 15 seed.
The only point of the game having the lead that matters is at the end!
to win 18/21 faceoffs and beat WW by one goal, have to think SE was exposed today.
Whitman goalie kept it close - played real well
Good game between WW and SE. Just shows besides SW those top 10 teams or so can go down on any given day. Seemed like the 2 brothers on WW really held them in it.
to win 18/21 faceoffs and beat WW by one goal, have to think SE was exposed today.
A win is a win!
Yea well Whitman had the lead all game till the end. So much for no competition right? The number 2 seed in Suffolk snuck out with a win against the 15 seed.
All games are unique, it shows that competition is strong in Suffolk A. Great effort by both teams!
Never said it wasn't, but was it a contest? Yes. Did Whitman show they're an actual team that can contend this year? Yes. Let me know the next time a 15 seed puts up that kind of fight against a 2 seed.
WW should not be a 15 seed and SW should not be a 2.
to win 18/21 faceoffs and beat WW by one goal, have to think SE was exposed today.
Exposed for what exactly? They have a 5-0 record. Whitman is a solid team, not really a surprise. Upsets happen in lax all the time. Have you watched D1 lax this season?
Really?? There are great athletes all over the Island.... How do you explain year in and year out success of the top public school lax programs ( manhasset, gc, wm, csh...)??
Spoiler alert: clearly it's not because those towns (manhasset,gc,wm,csh) have the best althletes
Coaching, coaching, coaching...
... Any of the forementioned school's coach would salivate given the D1 talent at a place like Northport
More of a factor than coaching is the strength of the youth programs that feed the top High School programs. All of the HS powerhouses have great youth programs that introduce the game early and develop players way before HS. Drive by the fields in the communities of the top HS programs and you will see the bustle of activity on any given day.
Some of the best coaching in these towns is at the youth level. The HS coaches are already getting fantastic talent.
Really?? There are great athletes all over the Island.... How do you explain year in and year out success of the top public school lax programs ( manhasset, gc, wm, csh...)??
Spoiler alert: clearly it's not because those towns (manhasset,gc,wm,csh) have the best althletes
Coaching, coaching, coaching...
... Any of the forementioned school's coach would salivate given the D1 talent at a place like Northport
More of a factor than coaching is the strength of the youth programs that feed the top High School programs. All of the HS powerhouses have great youth programs that introduce the game early and develop players way before HS. Drive by the fields in the communities of the top HS programs and you will see the bustle of activity on any given day.
Some of the best coaching in these towns is at the youth level. The HS coaches are already getting fantastic talent.
Take a look at who is coaching the top club teams at the youth, middle school and HS level.
Northport loses to Hills West today?? Things getting hot in Suffolk A! Love to see the GREAT COMPETITION!!!!!
Northport loses to Hills West today?? Things getting hot in Suffolk A! Love to see the GREAT COMPETITION!!!!!
How did the F/O do in the second half.
Hills West Played a Zone the Whole Game. makes for VERY Boring Lax, But Northport had no answer for it. I would say Hills west out coached NP
Not sure what happened there but that kid had a good year last year, I was at the West Islip game and I thought he was one of the better goalies in Suffolk 1
Golden was one of Northport's core players... Looks like NP coach underestimated team chemistry
Two top middies were out for Hills game and most of the season since Ward Melville game. Definitely has changed the team.
Two top middies were out for Hills game and most of the season since Ward Melville game. Definitely has changed the team.
What middies are out?
Totally different topic here. I know the school season is barely at the half way point, but I was hoping to gain some information.
Son is going to a pretty good D3 school in the fall to play. Are there any leagues or teams he can play in to stay sharp over the summer?
He is my first, so I'm just looking for some info.
Thanks in advance.
YES, tell him to find out if any of his friends are playing in Cantiaque Summer League. He would want to play in the 6:30 league for just graduated HS kids. He could even put a team together himself.
Congratulations to all of the Three Village Kids on the Tewarraton Watch List.
Men
Ritchie Hurley - Siena
Mike Chanachuck - Maryland
Women
Kerrin Maurer - Duke
Did any of them play at Ward Melville?
Hurley played at WM - Maurer played at St A and I am not sure who this Chanachuck person is
That was clever! The misspelling also. To know the origins of the couple you mention, yet NOT know the #1 shooter on the Terps (#1 literally). I dislike many things about the kid's dad's organization, and we walked away from it. Was a great move, but your ignorance seems brilliant!
Is it OK to actually whine all game long that EVERY call against your team is HORRIBLE, while EVERY call against an opposing team should be cheered, while yelling, "FINALLY!!"? How could this be possible? Do some men think that this is MANLY? They sound more like wussies, embarrassing the athletes that they are there to support. OH, wait... maybe the support of the competitor is not at all why they are there! Also, should we yell all game long, "they have too many players on the field", while the head count is even? Should we then shout the same question all game long, adding "again" at he end, as if we have convinced ourselves that this was the case earlier? Please let me know. Thank you. It seem as if officials should add a third man in the stands for wussies like that.
That was clever! The misspelling also. To know the origins of the couple you mention, yet NOT know the #1 shooter on the Terps (#1 literally). I dislike many things about the kid's dad's organization, and we walked away from it. Was a great move, but your ignorance seems brilliant!
Great point. For the wack jobs on some of the other threads, he was a lax only kid in HS. Not a day of football. Imagine that?
Now, Now. It does not make HIS way the ONLY way!
Now, Now. It does not make HIS way the ONLY way!
Never said it did, but the football nuts think theirs is the ONLY way!
Can Smithtown East get some respect!!! Sick game!!
I think that I could have been wrong regarding Suffolk A this year. There will be more than two or three teams fighting it out. There, I said it.
Now, Now. It does not make HIS way the ONLY way!
Never said it did, but the football nuts think theirs is the ONLY way!
"Well, they did it first"
Whitman loses to bayshore by 1, smithtown east by 1, and now hills west in over time. Anyone else believe they can make a run this year?
If they get in Playoffs they could be dangerous, BUT have to get in
Whitman loses to bayshore by 1, smithtown east by 1, and now hills west in over time. Anyone else believe they can make a run this year?
Whitman is a good team, so is Hills West
I think that I could have been wrong regarding Suffolk A this year. There will be more than two or three teams fighting it out. There, I said it.
Haha! I'm sure a few more surprises lie ahead! Will be fun to watch
Is it OK to actually whine all game long that EVERY call against your team is HORRIBLE, while EVERY call against an opposing team should be cheered, while yelling, "FINALLY!!"? How could this be possible? Do some men think that this is MANLY? They sound more like wussies, embarrassing the athletes that they are there to support. OH, wait... maybe the support of the competitor is not at all why they are there! Also, should we yell all game long, "they have too many players on the field", while the head count is even? Should we then shout the same question all game long, adding "again" at he end, as if we have convinced ourselves that this was the case earlier? Please let me know. Thank you. It seem as if officials should add a third man in the stands for wussies like that.
Is it OK to actually whine all game long that EVERY call against your team is HORRIBLE, while EVERY call against an opposing team should be cheered, while yelling, "FINALLY!!"? How could this be possible? Do some men think that this is MANLY? They sound more like wussies, embarrassing the athletes that they are there to support. OH, wait... maybe the support of the competitor is not at all why they are there! Also, should we yell all game long, "they have too many players on the field", while the head count is even? Should we then shout the same question all game long, adding "again" at he end, as if we have convinced ourselves that this was the case earlier? Please let me know. Thank you. It seem as if officials should add a third man in the stands for wussies like that.
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Whitman's three losses this season have all been by 1 goal. I think after they play Smithtown West at home Wednesday, in a game they are predicted to lose, they will go on a run to end their regular season. What does everyone else think?
Hurley played at WM - Maurer played at St A and I am not sure who this Chanachuck person is
Come on now you know full well he was a St A's kid too!
Congratulations to all of the Three Village Kids on the Tewarraton Watch List.
Men
Ritchie Hurley - Siena
Mike Chanachuck - Maryland
Women
Kerrin Maurer - Duke
Did any of them play at Ward Melville?
Should this then be congrats to the Friars in the race since 2 of the 3 went to St A's!
Whitman's three losses this season have all been by 1 goal. I think after they play Smithtown West at home Wednesday, in a game they are predicted to lose, they will go on a run to end their regular season. What does everyone else think?
This is how close D 1 is after S west. Whitman could not make playoffs or go on run through playoffs. 10-12 Teams on any given day could beat any one(Except SW)
Is it OK to actually whine all game long that EVERY call against your team is HORRIBLE, while EVERY call against an opposing team should be cheered, while yelling, "FINALLY!!"? How could this be possible? Do some men think that this is MANLY? They sound more like wussies, embarrassing the athletes that they are there to support. OH, wait... maybe the support of the competitor is not at all why they are there! Also, should we yell all game long, "they have too many players on the field", while the head count is even? Should we then shout the same question all game long, adding "again" at he end, as if we have convinced ourselves that this was the case earlier? Please let me know. Thank you. It seem as if officials should add a third man in the stands for wussies like that.
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OK - you master sleuth, you got me
not if Riverhead has something to say about it! there going down like china town. :0
Northport loses to Sachem North by 2, after beating WM I thought NP was going to be dominant. Obviously I was wrong about that
Northport loses to Sachem North by 2, after beating WM I thought NP was going to be dominant. Obviously I was wrong about that
Great season! The next week of games should be very revealing.
Whitman's three losses this season have all been by 1 goal. I think after they play Smithtown West at home Wednesday, in a game they are predicted to lose, they will go on a run to end their regular season. What does everyone else think?
This is how close D 1 is after S west. Whitman could not make playoffs or go on run through playoffs. 10-12 Teams on any given day could beat any one(Except SW)
No chance for Whitman against SW tomorrow. Whitman's been doing it on the back of 3 players: the goalie; an attackman, who might be the leading scorer on the Island; and a defenseman/pole/fo stud. SW is too strong; you can't beat SW with 3 kids.
Northport loses to Sachem North by 2, after beating WM I thought NP was going to be dominant. Obviously I was wrong about that
Did the Northport Boys give up and quit in the last 3 minutes of their game like the Northport Girls did?
will an 11-6 record get you in the playoffs?
I think his family is pretty involved in TEAM 91 as well.
Just found out Garden City and Manhasset both lost this past weekend. Did not see anything in Newsday. Shame because I heard it was a Special Event at the Manhasset Game Honoring a special player that Graduated from Chaminade but lived in Manhasset but died tragically defending our Country.
Northport loses to Sachem North by 2, after beating WM I thought NP was going to be dominant. Obviously I was wrong about that
Did the Northport Boys give up and quit in the last 3 minutes of their game like the Northport Girls did?
How were the Faceoffs? To great talents going at it, was wondering of one had an edge?
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I think his family is pretty involved in TEAM 91 as well.
Who are you talking about ?
Just found out Garden City and Manhasset both lost this past weekend. Did not see anything in Newsday. Shame because I heard it was a Special Event at the Manhasset Game Honoring a special player that Graduated from Chaminade but lived in Manhasset but died tragically defending our Country.
Are you talking boy's lax ? Garden City beat Bronxville this past Saturday. Their only loss was to Smithtown West in the 1st game of season.
As we head into the 3rd corner of the season, bAck in the day this is a part of the season where teams saw the value in their future with their jr.s and sophs. Much is written about those freshmen 2017 and seniors, can anyone shed some color to the pallet of who is doing well at their schools as sophs and jr.s.
Any notable surprises.
Just found out Garden City and Manhasset both lost this past weekend. Did not see anything in Newsday. Shame because I heard it was a Special Event at the Manhasset Game Honoring a special player that Graduated from Chaminade but lived in Manhasset but died tragically defending our Country.
Are you talking boy's lax ? Garden City beat Bronxville this past Saturday. Their only loss was to Smithtown West in the 1st game of season.
They lost to Ridgefield last week as well.
Wasn't Northport hoping to win states (article from newsday)?
... The coaching staff mysteriously bent over backwards to suddley start a junior goalie... Experiment failed miserably. Lost senior goalie perminantly, and suddenly dropped 3/5 games...
Why did you let your son quit?
Massapequa lit up Syosset today.
Just found out Garden City and Manhasset both lost this past weekend. Did not see anything in Newsday. Shame because I heard it was a Special Event at the Manhasset Game Honoring a special player that Graduated from Chaminade but lived in Manhasset but died tragically defending our Country.
Are you talking boy's lax ? Garden City beat Bronxville this past Saturday. Their only loss was to Smithtown West in the 1st game of season.
Garden City lost to Ridgefield. Stop sounding so definitive when you are wrong.
Smithtown East lost to Sachem North. Sachem F/O didn't produce as expected? Smithtown missed many opportunities! Interesting game
Just found out Garden City and Manhasset both lost this past weekend. Did not see anything in Newsday. Shame because I heard it was a Special Event at the Manhasset Game Honoring a special player that Graduated from Chaminade but lived in Manhasset but died tragically defending our Country.
Are you talking boy's lax ? Garden City beat Bronxville this past Saturday. Their only loss was to Smithtown West in the 1st game of season.
Garden City lost to Ridgefield. Stop sounding so definitive when you are wrong.
GC lost to Ridgefield after this posting which was on 4/15 knucklehead. Next time I will consult Kreskin the Magnificent before I post so I can get the scores of future games.
What was so interesting about the game.
Not my son -d bag
... I just don't like when politics interfere with a so called "winning agenda"
What was so interesting about the game.
Found it was revealing of talent level of certain players/positions.
Not my son -d bag
... I just don't like when politics interfere with a so called "winning agenda"
Well said. Each school should have a "Winning Agenda". In HS the object is to win. Sure you want and need to develop players but do not develop players at the risk of a loss.
As well you don't just play upperclassmen for the sake of their seniority. If an underclassmen is a better player they play.
Not familiar with the Northport situation, but I am of the mindset you need to work for your position and attitude has a bit to do with who plays but again not at the risk of losing. There are other factors to help "Punish" when an attitude adjustment is needed. Like good ole fashion pushups and crabs and sprints... but for goodness sake we are talking goalie. they are always the ones who get more leeway... and are bit of kilter.
Massapequa lit up Syosset today.
Massapequa was very unimpressive yesterday, most of the kids are so afraid to shoot that all they do is pass to a guy closer to the cage for easier goals. The only kid that would shoot from outside of ten yards was #1 and he only did it when Syosset didn't have a goalie in the cage. Massapequa was scared of Syosset possessions so much so that they got every ground ball (come on, if your so good let the other team get a few possession or are you that scared?). They have no confidence in their goalie, they are so afraid of him not making saves that they play this supper aggressive defense that didn't allow Syosset to take any quality shots. If Massapequa plays like this the rest of the year they are in big trouble, they may not lose any games but they sure look silly winning like that!
Massapequa lit up Syosset today.
Massapequa was very unimpressive yesterday, most of the kids are so afraid to shoot that all they do is pass to a guy closer to the cage for easier goals. The only kid that would shoot from outside of ten yards was #1 and he only did it when Syosset didn't have a goalie in the cage. Massapequa was scared of Syosset possessions so much so that they got every ground ball (come on, if your so good let the other team get a few possession or are you that scared?). They have no confidence in their goalie, they are so afraid of him not making saves that they play this supper aggressive defense that didn't allow Syosset to take any quality shots. If Massapequa plays like this the rest of the year they are in big trouble, they may not lose any games but they sure look silly winning like that!
But they won...
Great post. All around dominating performance by the Chiefs.
Massapequa lit up Syosset today.
Massapequa was very unimpressive yesterday, most of the kids are so afraid to shoot that all they do is pass to a guy closer to the cage for easier goals. The only kid that would shoot from outside of ten yards was #1 and he only did it when Syosset didn't have a goalie in the cage. Massapequa was scared of Syosset possessions so much so that they got every ground ball (come on, if your so good let the other team get a few possession or are you that scared?). They have no confidence in their goalie, they are so afraid of him not making saves that they play this supper aggressive defense that didn't allow Syosset to take any quality shots. If Massapequa plays like this the rest of the year they are in big trouble, they may not lose any games but they sure look silly winning like that!
So they beat a team with a bunch of division 1 recruits by more than 10 goals, and they look silly?
some people just don't get sarcasm, this is an anonymous bulleting board, get up with your WEB 2 O ... Pequa gonna win it all, no competition in the A bracket.. Oceanside maybe second best.
some people just don't get sarcasm, this is an anonymous bulleting board, get up with your WEB 2 O ... Pequa gonna win it all, no competition in the A bracket.. Oceanside maybe second best.
maybe, until they get blown out by Smithtown west!!
Wait someone talking about an actual Boys Spring 2014 high School Varsity Lacrosse game in this section? How did that sneak by the moderator?
some people just don't get sarcasm, this is an anonymous bulleting board, get up with your WEB 2 O ... Pequa gonna win it all, no competition in the A bracket.. Oceanside maybe second best.
maybe, until they get blown out by Smithtown west!!
Agree, can't compete with Suffolk A teams. Too much talent to the east of the county line!
Pequa can compete with anyone out there. ANY ONE!!!
Pequa can compete with anyone out there. ANY ONE!!!
Ummm, OK
True they need to ball hog more,lol, are you kidding ? Got to be a Syosset parent.
Pequa can compete with anyone out there. ANY ONE!!!
Like last year?
They just don't get it!
Good job pequa.
some people just don't get sarcasm, this is an anonymous bulleting board, get up with your WEB 2 O ... Pequa gonna win it all, no competition in the A bracket.. Oceanside maybe second best.
Pequa can compete with anyone out there. ANY ONE!!!
Be careful, you will be eating you words in a few weeks! Suffolk is dominant this year again, no question!
Pequa is much deeper than last year"s team. I have seen them play a few times already. They will give the Suffolk A champs a game this year. They have a lot of D1/D2 talent and have a nucleus that is in their 3rd year of varsity ball.
Pequa is much deeper than last year"s team. I have seen them play a few times already. They will give the Suffolk A champs a game this year. They have a lot of D1/D2 talent and have a nucleus that is in their 3rd year of varsity ball.
Time will tell!, still doubt they will even be challenged by Stown W, who is also deep with D1 talent, maybe a little higher caliber
Pequa is much deeper than last year"s team. I have seen them play a few times already. They will give the Suffolk A champs a game this year. They have a lot of D1/D2 talent and have a nucleus that is in their 3rd year of varsity ball.
Still need to win Nassau first
SWR loses yet another one. 33
WM overall record 7-4 in conference 5-3 with a tough Sachem North and wild card West Islip coming up. Talent on sideline not utilized and coaches continue to bring on underclassmen who can't physically compete with top teams. What happened to the time when JV developed and was a feeder for varsity programs? Tired of hearing it is a rebuilding year. Talent is there just not being used.
WM overall record 7-4 in conference 5-3 with a tough Sachem North and wild card West Islip coming up. Talent on sideline not utilized and coaches continue to bring on underclassmen who can't physically compete with top teams. What happened to the time when JV developed and was a feeder for varsity programs? Tired of hearing it is a rebuilding year. Talent is there just not being used.
Sounds like varsity girls lacrosse in our town! Loaded with middle schoolers, who play most of the game, and do nothing special...
Suffolk A is a very talented division and teams 2-8 can all compete with each other on any given day, Nassau A is a very thin division after the top team, If the top 8 Suffolk teams played the top 8 Nassau teams I think it would be 8 - 0 Suffolk with the only competitive game being the top teams (SW and Mass) so while I think Suffolk A is a much better division I think that the LI championship game will be a close tough game with SW winning a close one.
based on laxpower standings this would be the match ups of Nassau Suffolk A's 1-8, only competitive game would be SW v Mass
1) Mass v SW
2) OCEN v SE
3) SYO v Sachem N
4) Hick v WM
5) Port v Sachem E
6) Calh v Hills W
7) Farm v WI
8) MacA v Hills E
Pequa lost to the only two legitimate teams they played (Chami & GC). I'd hold off with the parade for now.
Pequa is much deeper than last year"s team. I have seen them play a few times already. They will give the Suffolk A champs a game this year. They have a lot of D1/D2 talent and have a nucleus that is in their 3rd year of varsity ball.
Still need to win Nassau first
Suffolk A is a very talented division and teams 2-8 can all compete with each other on any given day, Nassau A is a very thin division after the top team, If the top 8 Suffolk teams played the top 8 Nassau teams I think it would be 8 - 0 Suffolk with the only competitive game being the top teams (SW and Mass) so while I think Suffolk A is a much better division I think that the LI championship game will be a close tough game with SW winning a close one.
Will not be close. It will be a blowout by SW. You will see!!
Pequa is a very good team, They lost to GC by a goal and I saw them play Chaminade. Chaminades Defense is insanely good, there are not many who can break that squad. Lost by 3 to Chaminade in a competitive game. No good games for them in Nassau A may be hurting them, but they play good non league games.
If Smithtown East is the number 2...maybe Nassau not as weak as everyone thinks. They barely beat a very mediocre Port Washington
WM overall record 7-4 in conference 5-3 with a tough Sachem North and wild card West Islip coming up. Talent on sideline not utilized and coaches continue to bring on underclassmen who can't physically compete with top teams. What happened to the time when JV developed and was a feeder for varsity programs? Tired of hearing it is a rebuilding year. Talent is there just not being used.
Is it too late for Ward Melville to bring in a transfer? Just imagine what a big time D-1 Midfielder would do to help Ward Melville. A player like #26 from Smithtown West would have a huge impact on this Ward Melville Team. If it is too late for him to transfer maybe he has a younger brother who would consider playing for WM.
Forget the 9th and 10th graders. What Ward Melville really needs is a ringer from out of town.
Pequa is a very good team, They lost to GC by a goal and I saw them play Chaminade. Chaminades Defense is insanely good, there are not many who can break that squad. Lost by 3 to Chaminade in a competitive game. No good games for them in Nassau A may be hurting them, but they play good non league games.
Smithown west has a better defense than Chaminade. They are very strong in all areas. The only real battle on LI might be between Chaminade and Smithtown west. I would bet on SW. What's most immpressive is that they are a town program.
Pequa is a very good team, They lost to GC by a goal and I saw them play Chaminade. Chaminades Defense is insanely good, there are not many who can break that squad. Lost by 3 to Chaminade in a competitive game. No good games for them in Nassau A may be hurting them, but they play good non league games.
I think it was Iona prep that gave Chaminades defense all it could handle and then some. I don't believe they led in that game until the final few mins of the 4th.
If Smithtown East is the number 2...maybe Nassau not as weak as everyone thinks. They barely beat a very mediocre Port Washington
That mediocre team also lost to Pequa by 2. Maybe not as mediocre as you think. A lot of good teams in both Nassau and Suffolk A. Playoffs will be quite interesting this year.
Its all about match ups. Different teams match up better vs other teams. One team may play poorly and the other play the best game they ever have. That's why you play the games and don't go by predictions.
Smithtown W and Massapequa both top 10 ranked. Nothing is going to be interesting as those two teams roll to LI Champ matchup. Top 10 below (This is national)
1 Boys' Latin MD 99.93 97.38 100.00 12- 0- 0
2 Georgetown Prep MD 99.93 96.02 100.00 14- 0- 0
3 Chaminade NY 99.87 96.58 100.00 7- 0- 0
4 Smithtown West NY 99.82 95.98 100.00 10- 0- 0
5 Culver Academy Prep IN 99.73 95.64 100.00 14- 0- 0
6 Malvern Prep PA 99.72 95.67 100.00 14- 0- 0
7 Taft School CT 99.62 95.83 87.50 7- 1- 0
8 Massapequa NY 99.62 94.37 80.00 8- 2- 0
9 Penncrest PA 99.56 94.08 100.00 12- 0- 0
10 Fairport NY 99.52 95.03 85.71 6- 1- 0
Smithtown W and Massapequa both top 10 ranked. Nothing is going to be interesting as those two teams roll to LI Champ matchup. Top 10 below (This is national)
1 Boys' Latin MD 99.93 97.38 100.00 12- 0- 0
2 Georgetown Prep MD 99.93 96.02 100.00 14- 0- 0
3 Chaminade NY 99.87 96.58 100.00 7- 0- 0
4 Smithtown West NY 99.82 95.98 100.00 10- 0- 0
5 Culver Academy Prep IN 99.73 95.64 100.00 14- 0- 0
6 Malvern Prep PA 99.72 95.67 100.00 14- 0- 0
7 Taft School CT 99.62 95.83 87.50 7- 1- 0
8 Massapequa NY 99.62 94.37 80.00 8- 2- 0
9 Penncrest PA 99.56 94.08 100.00 12- 0- 0
10 Fairport NY 99.52 95.03 85.71 6- 1- 0
So what you're saying is NY has the best public system in the nation at lacrosse. 4 Public schools in the top 10. 3 from NY 2 from LI 1 from Rochester. 1 from Pennsylvania non from VA or MD.
Good catch there Sherlock. Where is this poll from? i googled hs ranks only found College on Laxpower.
Laxpower, click Boys then you can get all kinds of cool rankings.
You didn't look far enough !
Click link
http://www.laxpower.com/update14/binboy/natlccr.phpGood catch there Sherlock. Where is this poll from? i googled hs ranks only found College on Laxpower.
my fingers hurt from scrolling all the way down to find Syosset and Port Washington. Chiefs will easily win Nassau, see what happens in LI. Like in any sport hopefully all teams come in healthy and play their hearts out.
Its all about match ups. Different teams match up better vs other teams. One team may play poorly and the other play the best game they ever have. That's why you play the games and don't go by predictions.
you are dead on correct - in two of the three county championship games the team that lost the regular season game won the county championship
GC lost to Manhasset 7-9 and then won counties 10-4
Friends lost to CSH 7-12 and then beat them 9-4 in championship
Better yet SWR??? WOW ...That's all I have to say....lol
my fingers hurt from scrolling all the way down to find Syosset and Port Washington. Chiefs will easily win Nassau, see what happens in LI. Like in any sport hopefully all teams come in healthy and play their hearts out.
my fingers hurt from scrolling all the way down to find Syosset and Port Washington. Chiefs will easily win Nassau, see what happens in LI. Like in any sport hopefully all teams come in healthy and play their hearts out.
It must be true. It's on the internet
Why this sounds like coming from 10&11 wm parents complaining?
SHAME!
WM is better than this.
Playing WM JV does guarantee making Var Team.
Stop complaining and talk to wm coaches if you have any issues.
my fingers hurt from scrolling all the way down to find Syosset and Port Washington. Chiefs will easily win Nassau, see what happens in LI. Like in any sport hopefully all teams come in healthy and play their hearts out.
Better yet, my fingers are killing me looking for Massapequa on any of the top academic high schools in New [lacrosse] and in the country lists. Syosset is right at the top of both lists. still scrolling to find Massapequa even mentioned . Not happening. Would rather have a top academic school w a great lacrosse program than just a great lacrosse program and nothing else. Syosset is a win/win. And btw, Syosset lost to Chaminade by one goal in the non league game this year . Better than massapequas loss so just remember no matter which direction this season goes, can't judge by one game for either team or count out your competition bc u never know .
my fingers hurt from scrolling all the way down to find Syosset and Port Washington. Chiefs will easily win Nassau, see what happens in LI. Like in any sport hopefully all teams come in healthy and play their hearts out.
Better yet, my fingers are killing me looking for Massapequa on any of the top academic high schools in New [lacrosse] and in the country lists. Syosset is right at the top of both lists. still scrolling to find Massapequa even mentioned . Not happening. Would rather have a top academic school w a great lacrosse program than just a great lacrosse program and nothing else. Syosset is a win/win. And btw, Syosset lost to Chaminade by one goal in the non league game this year . Better than massapequas loss so just remember no matter which direction this season goes, can't judge by one game for either team or count out your competition bc u never know .
Go to a Catholic school, good education, excellent sports, don't hear much of Syossset kids in the D1 schools on TV but you do hear a lot about Cham and St. Anthony's.
my fingers hurt from scrolling all the way down to find Syosset and Port Washington. Chiefs will easily win Nassau, see what happens in LI. Like in any sport hopefully all teams come in healthy and play their hearts out.
Better yet, my fingers are killing me looking for Massapequa on any of the top academic high schools in New [lacrosse] and in the country lists. Syosset is right at the top of both lists. still scrolling to find Massapequa even mentioned . Not happening. Would rather have a top academic school w a great lacrosse program than just a great lacrosse program and nothing else. Syosset is a win/win. And btw, Syosset lost to Chaminade by one goal in the non league game this year . Better than massapequas loss so just remember no matter which direction this season goes, can't judge by one game for either team or count out your competition bc u never know .
Pathetic post. Feel better Einstein?
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Go to a Catholic school, good education, excellent sports, don't hear much of Syossset kids in the D1 schools on TV but you do hear a lot about Cham and St. Anthony's.
OR - go to Syosset Excellent education and good sports - you might not see many of them on TV playing lacrosse but in a few years you will be in their waiting rooms waiting to see them..........turn your head a cough
Syosset did not play Chaminade this year..or last year...or the year before...
wow so if I want my son/daughter to become a Dr. I should move to Syosset? Packing my bags now, thanks for the information. I don't think many Syosset kids can get into Chaminade or St. Anthony's not for lack of intelligence but the lack of a Baptismal Certificate.
my fingers hurt from scrolling all the way down to find Syosset and Port Washington. Chiefs will easily win Nassau, see what happens in LI. Like in any sport hopefully all teams come in healthy and play their hearts out.
Better yet, my fingers are killing me looking for Massapequa on any of the top academic high schools in New [lacrosse] and in the country lists. Syosset is right at the top of both lists. still scrolling to find Massapequa even mentioned . Not happening. Would rather have a top academic school w a great lacrosse program than just a great lacrosse program and nothing else. Syosset is a win/win. And btw, Syosset lost to Chaminade by one goal in the non league game this year . Better than massapequas loss so just remember no matter which direction this season goes, can't judge by one game for either team or count out your competition bc u never know .
Go to a Catholic school, good education, excellent sports, don't hear much of Syossset kids in the D1 schools on TV but you do hear a lot about Cham and St. Anthony's.
Then you're not listening , Syosset is represented consistently by many D1 schools and if you watch the games and listen for it , you will hear their names . At times 2 or more on the same team , Cornell etc. A lot of Syosset players get recruited by freshman/Sophmore year to the D1's bc of their excellent academic and athletic reputation.
Maybe he meant Syosset lost to the flyer freshman team or JV team...they have not played the Varsity
my fingers hurt from scrolling all the way down to find Syosset and Port Washington. Chiefs will easily win Nassau, see what happens in LI. Like in any sport hopefully all teams come in healthy and play their hearts out.
Better yet, my fingers are killing me looking for Massapequa on any of the top academic high schools in New [lacrosse] and in the country lists. Syosset is right at the top of both lists. still scrolling to find Massapequa even mentioned . Not happening. Would rather have a top academic school w a great lacrosse program than just a great lacrosse program and nothing else. Syosset is a win/win. And btw, Syosset lost to Chaminade by one goal in the non league game this year . Better than massapequas loss so just remember no matter which direction this season goes, can't judge by one game for either team or count out your competition bc u never know .
I nominate this post for stupidest of the year. You must mean scrimmage instead of non-league because Syosset has not played an out of conference game against Chaminade this year. A scrimmage is not a fair indicator of the team's play. This is a lacrosse forum, take the education debate to the Patch or Citydata.
wow so if I want my son/daughter to become a Dr. I should move to Syosset? Packing my bags now, thanks for the information. I don't think many Syosset kids can get into Chaminade or St. Anthony's not for lack of intelligence but the lack of a Baptismal Certificate.
Ignorant post that doesn't deserve a response but if you knew anything about Syosset you would know that by breakdown more than half of the town could go to catholic school with their baptismal certificates . Not that it matters bc like I said , ignorant , bigoted post.
Looking at the list of rankings shows what a gauntlet of a schedule Chaminade put together this year - might be the toughest in the country...
8 Massapequa NY 8- 2- 0 99.62 0.00 99.62
12 Bergen Catholic NJ 9- 0- 0 99.47 0.00 99.47
14 Yorktown NY 8- 2- 0 99.39 0.00 99.39
19 Greenwich HS CT 6- 1- 0 99.21 0.00 99.21
21 St Anthony's NY 6- 3- 0 99.14 0.00 99.14
22 Iona Prep NY 8- 2- 0 99.14 0.00 99.14
43 Fordham Prep NY 8- 2- 0 98.74 0.00 98.74
50 Fairfield Prep CT 5- 1- 0 98.60 0.00 98.60
All the above teams ranked in the top 50, plus add to that list Manhasset, West Islip, and Ward Melville
WOW!
wow so if I want my son/daughter to become a Dr. I should move to Syosset? Packing my bags now, thanks for the information. I don't think many Syosset kids can get into Chaminade or St. Anthony's not for lack of intelligence but the lack of a Baptismal Certificate.
Mein fuhrer, the post was a response to knocking Syosset for not being represented well on ESPNU and also suggesting it would be better to go to a "good" academic school because they are "excellent" in sports to get to play college lacrosse games on TV. As for your baptismal certificate comment I believe only Chaminade has a requirement that potential students have received all of their holy sacraments and St. A's welcomes all religions - Muslims,Protestants and even those Syosset types.
hey, back of the cage, how did you let this bigot post through? Whom ever posted this should be ashamed of themselves. Religion has no place in D1, high school or youth sports discussions.
wow so if I want my son/daughter to become a Dr. I should move to Syosset? Packing my bags now, thanks for the information. I don't think many Syosset kids can get into Chaminade or St. Anthony's not for lack of intelligence but the lack of a Baptismal Certificate.
You are a J--- A-- But here you go.
Off the top of my head here are some kids that would have gone to Syosset HS:
Ryan Lucacovic - Chaminade - Virginia
Charlie Raffa - St Anthony's - Maryland
Greg Galligan - St Anthony's - Georgetown (commit)
Why this sounds like coming from 10&11 wm parents complaining?
SHAME!
WM is better than this.
Playing WM JV does guarantee making Var Team.
Stop complaining and talk to wm coaches if you have any issues.
You are right WM parents do complain a lot. Just watch tape of WM and Chaminade game or talk to parents from SW game. My guess is it is the upperclassman or parents upset that there kids are not seeing playing time.
All this from a generalized commend about catholic schools, D1 and TV. The people who should be ashamed are all of you who would even respond. Ignore the posts and the ignorant will eventually stop making these comments. They, in my opinion, only make comments such as "go to a Catholic school, good education, excellent sports, don't hear much of Syossset kids in the D1 schools on TV but you do hear a lot about Cham and St. Anthony's" only to get a response, and they did.
wow so if I want my son/daughter to become a Dr. I should move to Syosset? Packing my bags now, thanks for the information. I don't think many Syosset kids can get into Chaminade or St. Anthony's not for lack of intelligence but the lack of a Baptismal Certificate.
You are a J--- A-- But here you go.
Off the top of my head here are some kids that would have gone to Syosset HS:
Ryan Lucacovic - Chaminade - Virginia
Charlie Raffa - St Anthony's - Maryland
Greg Galligan - St Anthony's - Georgetown (commit)
Not too sure about Galligan being from Syo and I also believe that Raffa was not living in Syosset when he started HS. but here are a few
Albert and AJ Core St A RPI - Furman
Robert and Vincent Speranza Chamonade (Robert D1 commit)
Thomas Lucacovic - Chaminade - Fairfield
Tim Burk - Chaminade - Dartmouth
Looking at the list of rankings shows what a gauntlet of a schedule Chaminade put together this year - might be the toughest in the country...
8 Massapequa NY 8- 2- 0 99.62 0.00 99.62
12 Bergen Catholic NJ 9- 0- 0 99.47 0.00 99.47
14 Yorktown NY 8- 2- 0 99.39 0.00 99.39
19 Greenwich HS CT 6- 1- 0 99.21 0.00 99.21
21 St Anthony's NY 6- 3- 0 99.14 0.00 99.14
22 Iona Prep NY 8- 2- 0 99.14 0.00 99.14
43 Fordham Prep NY 8- 2- 0 98.74 0.00 98.74
50 Fairfield Prep CT 5- 1- 0 98.60 0.00 98.60
All the above teams ranked in the top 50, plus add to that list Manhasset, West Islip, and Ward Melville
WOW!
You forgot Delbarton too.... All very good competition.
There is such a benefit to playing talented non conference teams.
Last year they played st. Ignatius from Calli.
Now, if the Lax Gods will smile down and get GC to stop ducking them... That would be another great matchup.
wow so if I want my son/daughter to become a Dr. I should move to Syosset? Packing my bags now, thanks for the information. I don't think many Syosset kids can get into Chaminade or St. Anthony's not for lack of intelligence but the lack of a Baptismal Certificate.
You are a J--- A-- But here you go.
Off the top of my head here are some kids that would have gone to Syosset HS:
Alerio Demorales syoHS - Yale
Andrew Keith Syo Hs - cornell
Doug tesorio Syo hs - cornell
Ryan feit Syo HS - Hopkins
Ryan hunter Syo HS - Ohio State
Ryan Lucacovic - Chaminade - Virginia
Charlie Raffa - St Anthony's - Maryland
Greg Galligan - St Anthony's - Georgetown (commit)
Not too sure about Galligan being from Syo and I also believe that Raffa was not living in Syosset when he started HS. but here are a few
Albert and AJ Core St A RPI - Furman
Robert and Vincent Speranza Chamonade (Robert D1 commit)
Thomas Lucacovic - Chaminade - Fairfield
Tim Burk - Chaminade - Dartmouth
wow so if I want my son/daughter to become a Dr. I should move to Syosset? Packing my bags now, thanks for the information. I don't think many Syosset kids can get into Chaminade or St. Anthony's not for lack of intelligence but the lack of a Baptismal Certificate.
You are a J--- A-- But here you go.
Off the top of my head here are some kids that would have gone to Syosset HS:
Ryan Lucacovic - Chaminade - Virginia
Charlie Raffa - St Anthony's - Maryland
Greg Galligan - St Anthony's - Georgetown (commit)
Not too sure about Galligan being from Syo and I also believe that Raffa was not living in Syosset when he started HS. but here are a few
Albert and AJ Core St A RPI - Furman
Robert and Vincent Speranza Chamonade (Robert D1 commit)
Thomas Lucacovic - Chaminade - Fairfield
Tim Burk - Chaminade - Dartmouth
Here we go.. The posts stating if so and so went public they would be the best. Didn't pequa try that in a post last year. Come on pequa post away.
Looking at the list of rankings shows what a gauntlet of a schedule Chaminade put together this year - might be the toughest in the country...
8 Massapequa NY 8- 2- 0 99.62 0.00 99.62
12 Bergen Catholic NJ 9- 0- 0 99.47 0.00 99.47
14 Yorktown NY 8- 2- 0 99.39 0.00 99.39
19 Greenwich HS CT 6- 1- 0 99.21 0.00 99.21
21 St Anthony's NY 6- 3- 0 99.14 0.00 99.14
22 Iona Prep NY 8- 2- 0 99.14 0.00 99.14
43 Fordham Prep NY 8- 2- 0 98.74 0.00 98.74
50 Fairfield Prep CT 5- 1- 0 98.60 0.00 98.60
All the above teams ranked in the top 50, plus add to that list Manhasset, West Islip, and Ward Melville
WOW!
You forgot Delbarton too.... All very good competition.
There is such a benefit to playing talented non conference teams.
Last year they played st. Ignatius from Calli.
Now, if the Lax Gods will smile down and get GC to stop ducking them... That would be another great matchup.
Hill Academy too! GC and Chaminade afraid to play them!
Why this sounds like coming from 10&11 wm parents complaining?
SHAME!
WM is better than this.
Playing WM JV does guarantee making Var Team.
Stop complaining and talk to wm coaches if you have any issues.
You are right WM parents do complain a lot. Just watch tape of WM and Chaminade game or talk to parents from SW game. My guess is it is the upperclassman or parents upset that there kids are not seeing playing time.
Ward Melville has one 9th grader and two 10th graders who see meaningful playing time. No different from recent years, they have been bringing up 9th and 10th graders for many years at Melville. The Senior Class has the most players who see significant playing time with 6 or 7. Junior Class is right there with with 5 -7. They have a bunch of 9th and 10th graders on the Varsity but they do not see a lot of game time.
I Dont think GC and Cham afraid to play Hill. They were beaten on island in fall ball. Big diff frome reg season but they arent invincible
If Hill called Cham or SA I bet they take the game. They aren't interested in protecting a record. They want to play as competitive schedule as they can to have their teams ready to play each other. Those 3 games are the most important on their schedules (especially the 3rd one!)
Looking at the list of rankings shows what a gauntlet of a schedule Chaminade put together this year - might be the toughest in the country...
8 Massapequa NY 8- 2- 0 99.62 0.00 99.62
12 Bergen Catholic NJ 9- 0- 0 99.47 0.00 99.47
14 Yorktown NY 8- 2- 0 99.39 0.00 99.39
19 Greenwich HS CT 6- 1- 0 99.21 0.00 99.21
21 St Anthony's NY 6- 3- 0 99.14 0.00 99.14
22 Iona Prep NY 8- 2- 0 99.14 0.00 99.14
43 Fordham Prep NY 8- 2- 0 98.74 0.00 98.74
50 Fairfield Prep CT 5- 1- 0 98.60 0.00 98.60
All the above teams ranked in the top 50, plus add to that list Manhasset, West Islip, and Ward Melville
WOW!
You forgot Delbarton too.... All very good competition.
There is such a benefit to playing talented non conference teams.
Last year they played st. Ignatius from Calli.
Now, if the Lax Gods will smile down and get GC to stop ducking them... That would be another great matchup.
Hill Academy too! GC and Chaminade afraid to play them!
so you expect us to believe that the #3 team in the country is afraid to play the 239th team in the country? take your boys and win some games against a couple of good teams and then maybe you will earn enough respect to have Chaminade consider a game with you. Until then go get your shine box why
Looking at the list of rankings shows what a gauntlet of a schedule Chaminade put together this year - might be the toughest in the country...
8 Massapequa NY 8- 2- 0 99.62 0.00 99.62
12 Bergen Catholic NJ 9- 0- 0 99.47 0.00 99.47
14 Yorktown NY 8- 2- 0 99.39 0.00 99.39
19 Greenwich HS CT 6- 1- 0 99.21 0.00 99.21
21 St Anthony's NY 6- 3- 0 99.14 0.00 99.14
22 Iona Prep NY 8- 2- 0 99.14 0.00 99.14
43 Fordham Prep NY 8- 2- 0 98.74 0.00 98.74
50 Fairfield Prep CT 5- 1- 0 98.60 0.00 98.60
All the above teams ranked in the top 50, plus add to that list Manhasset, West Islip, and Ward Melville
WOW!
You forgot Delbarton too.... All very good competition.
There is such a benefit to playing talented non conference teams.
Last year they played st. Ignatius from Calli.
Now, if the Lax Gods will smile down and get GC to stop ducking them... That would be another great matchup.
Hill Academy too! GC and Chaminade afraid to play them!
so you expect us to believe that the #3 team in the country is afraid to play the 239th team in the country? take your boys and win some games against a couple of good teams and then maybe you will earn enough respect to have Chaminade consider a game with you. Until then go get your shine box why
Who's the 239th team in the country? Hill isn't even from this country, Chaminiade genius! And YES you keep ducking them! Lets see you man up and ask to be put on the schedule with them this fall, or are you too scared? Fact is both Hill and Chaminade are both ranked 2 in their region.
Why this sounds like coming from 10&11 wm parents complaining?
SHAME!
WM is better than this.
Playing WM JV does guarantee making Var Team.
Stop complaining and talk to wm coaches if you have any issues.
You are right WM parents do complain a lot. Just watch tape of WM and Chaminade game or talk to parents from SW game. My guess is it is the upperclassman or parents upset that there kids are not seeing playing time.
Ward Melville has one 9th grader and two 10th graders who see meaningful playing time. No different from recent years, they have been bringing up 9th and 10th graders for many years at Melville. The Senior Class has the most players who see significant playing time with 6 or 7. Junior Class is right there with with 5 -7. They have a bunch of 9th and 10th graders on the Varsity but they do not see a lot of game time.
Ok quick math from your numbers show around a roster of 17? The rest must be 7th and 8th graders then. I think the poster was referring to the sideline upperclass players not seeing the field. According to your stats at most 14 upperclassman play. How big is the roster? Their point exactly.
Unfortunately your not the only district that does that to juniors and seniors. Kids are brought up early, could it be because of politicking (unfortunately that is most often the case), unless they are an impact player. In WM case seems that 3 underclassman are legit if they have impact in game. Otherwise, kids don't develop from watching games and practices from the sidelines and have seen these early risers fall flat.
Have heard this happen in many districts in state and out of state and it is unfortunate. Best advice, tell upperclassman to hang in there, play hard in practice and hopefully will fairly get their turn.
Just watched the West Islip v Northport game on MSG varsity, if they are two of the better teams in Suffolk 1 Massapequa has nothing to worry about
Fundamentals were terrible for both teams
Just watched the West Islip v Northport game on MSG varsity, if they are two of the better teams in Suffolk 1 Massapequa has nothing to worry about
Fundamentals were terrible for both teams
You are right, they have nothing to worry about cause they will be playing Stown west!!
Chaminade loses to Yorktown!! OMG, a public school, how could this have happened??
Just watched the West Islip v Northport game on MSG varsity, if they are two of the better teams in Suffolk 1 Massapequa has nothing to worry about
Fundamentals were terrible for both teams
You are right, they have nothing to worry about cause they will be playing Stown west!!
Heard Hauppauge had Swest tied up till the end of the third quarter yesterday! Interesting!!
Chaminade loses to Yorktown!! OMG, a public school, how could this have happened??
What happened at the F/O?? How did Chaminade possibly lose 100% Overrated possibly?
Chaminade loses to Yorktown!! OMG, a public school, how could this have happened??
Because Y-Town is a good team
Chaminade loses to Yorktown!! OMG, a public school, how could this have happened??
Because Y-Town is a good team
A small town that draws from maybe a 5 mile radius taking down a national powerhouse that draws the best from long island - on their home field. A beautiful thing.
We will see if the landscape changes again when Northport's main players are back this week.
They are going to need them against the Smthtowns, though I think N will beat Whitman and BS by a wide margin
Chaminade loses to Yorktown!! OMG, a public school, how could this have happened??
Because Y-Town is a good team
A small town that draws from maybe a 5 mile radius taking down a national powerhouse that draws the best from long island - on their home field. A beautiful thing.
Congrats to Yorktown. That's a nice win.
Who told you chaminade was afraid to play them?
I Dont think GC and Cham afraid to play Hill. They were beaten on island in fall ball. Big diff frome reg season but they arent invincible
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
Who cares! The world doesn't revolve around Chaminade
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
I'm a SA parent and alum and find i need to defend the Bubble Bathers here (still can't believe i am though
). there is no shame in losing a game to Yorktown (tests or no tests). Quality program up there. Losses happen. Just hoping they lose 2 more games this year and not against Greenwich, Fairfield Prep or Delbarton!
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
I'm a SA parent and alum and find i need to defend the Bubble Bathers here (still can't believe i am though
). there is no shame in losing a game to Yorktown (tests or no tests). Quality program up there. Losses happen. Just hoping they lose 2 more games this year and not against Greenwich, Fairfield Prep or Delbarton!
Elite private lax programs should never lose to a town team that has a small fraction of the talent pool to draw from. Two years in a row? It's an embarassment - especially on your home field. Period.
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
"Chaminade Haters" or Obnoxious, bragging "Chaminade daddys" ...which came first? This ridiculousness never ends I see
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
I'm a SA parent and alum and find i need to defend the Bubble Bathers here (still can't believe i am though
). there is no shame in losing a game to Yorktown (tests or no tests). Quality program up there. Losses happen. Just hoping they lose 2 more games this year and not against Greenwich, Fairfield Prep or Delbarton!
Elite private lax programs should never lose to a town team that has a small fraction of the talent pool to draw from. Two years in a row? It's an embarassment - especially on your home field. Period.
Compare the number of college committed kids between Chaminade and Yorktown. The result is a huge surprise any way you look at it. Yorktown, the giant slayer!
There is definitely a pattern across these threads. Any team that has a winning streak, plays up successfully, wins their games consecutively etc, get torn to shreds for losing a game here and there. Are these teams really invincible? Of course not! The pressure people put on kids as young as 8, up to the HS and even college. There will be loses along the way and it is nothing to be embarrassed about. Grown adults ragging on a team for losing A game- come on- that just shows others your true colors- green- with envy.
I'm sure the Chaminade team is beating themselves up over the loss, as other teams do, when they usually go undefeated, but a good coach and team will learn from the game and come out stronger in the end.
There is definitely a pattern across these threads. Any team that has a winning streak, plays up successfully, wins their games consecutively etc, get torn to shreds for losing a game here and there. Are these teams really invincible? Of course not! The pressure people put on kids as young as 8, up to the HS and even college. There will be loses along the way and it is nothing to be embarrassed about. Grown adults ragging on a team for losing A game- come on- that just shows others your true colors- green- with envy.
I'm sure the Chaminade team is beating themselves up over the loss, as other teams do, when they usually go undefeated, but a good coach and team will learn from the game and come out stronger in the end.
This is true! I'm not a Chaminade fan, but do agree. Nobody really likes to see anyone else do well, except their own kids, many times even their own team members! Sad
They are going to need them against the Smthtowns, though I think N will beat Whitman and BS by a wide margin
I wouldn't sleep on WW...
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
Who cares! The world doesn't revolve around Chaminade
We need to win every game by a wide margin. Failure is not an options. This is a reflection of life. Heads need to roll.
Whitman will need to win the NP game to make the playoffs I say NP wins by 4 but WW will keep it close to the 4th
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
This is an age old problem with the public school system on the boys side. The girls have figured it out with a "suope league" and there's no good reason why the boys can't do the same.
Very good game between Cold Spring Harbor and Mineola until the the Fouth Quarter.
Whitman will need to win the NP game to make the playoffs I say NP wins by 4 but WW will keep it close to the 4th
No they don't if they beat Riverhead today they should make playoffs looking at rest of schedule. However if they lose to Riverhead they will need to beat NP.
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
This is an age old problem with the public school system on the boys side. The girls have figured it out with a "suope league" and there's no good reason why the boys can't do the same.
You should move to a Tournament of Champions system like i NJ where there is one overall state champion across publics and privates. It is an awesome tournament and all of the speculation about who is best is answered in the tournament. Like college hoops where there is one winner across all teams.
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
This is an age old problem with the public school system on the boys side. The girls have figured it out with a "suope league" and there's no good reason why the boys can't do the same.
You should move to a Tournament of Champions system like i NJ where there is one overall state champion across publics and privates. It is an awesome tournament and all of the speculation about who is best is answered in the tournament. Like college hoops where there is one winner across all teams.
Couldn't agree more. The super league should have 10-12 of the best from Long Island (Upstate you have more than enough teams to do your own thing) voted on by the coaches and using something like laxpower ratings as the tiebreaker if any discrepency. Each year the bottom 2-4 would swap places with the top 2-4 from the division below.
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
This is an age old problem with the public school system on the boys side. The girls have figured it out with a "suope league" and there's no good reason why the boys can't do the same.
You should move to a Tournament of Champions system like i NJ where there is one overall state champion across publics and privates. It is an awesome tournament and all of the speculation about who is best is answered in the tournament. Like college hoops where there is one winner across all teams.
Couldn't agree more. The super league should have 10-12 of the best from Long Island (Upstate you have more than enough teams to do your own thing) voted on by the coaches and using something like laxpower ratings as the tiebreaker if any discrepency. Each year the bottom 2-4 would swap places with the top 2-4 from the division below.
In NJ it is done within groups (group 4 publics -largest, group 3, group 2, group 1 - smallest) and non-public a and non-public b). State tournament games are first played witrhin groups (group 4 games only until a winner) and then ultimately winner of each group plays in the tournament of champions event where there is 1 winner.
And then the state champs should battle each other!
Most Suffolk games re scheduled for Thursday -
Any Games at all today ?
Can't see them playing. Rain is heavy and cold. Grass fields are out of the question.
Whitman with a gritty win in the rain. Can they make noise?
Whitman with a gritty win in the rain. Can they make noise?
Whitman with a gritty win in the rain. Can they make noise?
Whitman is a VERY good team, I would not want to play them . Goalie keeps them in Every game
You missed the point.... The coaching staff had their own personal agenda.
No attitude or poor performance
Just simple- the HS coaching staff feels obligated to start kids that pay for their training session on the side...
Get it??
That is the shame of what Long Island lax evolved to...
Cut throat haters!
Lax was once a big fraternity of gentleman who competed hard then, praised each other after the game over a beer or whatever....
Now parents are behave the same way as the dreaded hockey and football parents.
The kids will all learn to hate the pressure, and the uglyness, and inevitably hang up the cleats prematurely from pure burn out
I think the playoffs are NOW in The works for WW with the 9-1 Run in 2nd Half against Riverhead
Go Wildcats
Anyone know what happened at the Commack/Whitman game yesterday? Heard there was a brawl and it ended early.
There were no refs and game was getting chippy. Whitman was up about 10-1 and Commack was getting aggravated. It only lasted about 30 minutes until there was a little scuffle and then Commacks bench ran on to the field and Whitmans did not. It could have been worse if Whitman was not disciplined to stay on the bench.
How does everyone think the playoffs are going to end up in Suffolk? What teams are going to make it?
Whitman starts their conference play today. Could this game be an indication of playoff teams. Hope weather doesn't become a factor.
Did the Playoffs kinda go out the window with the second half?
You missed the point.... The coaching staff had their own personal agenda.
No attitude or poor performance
Just simple- the HS coaching staff feels obligated to start kids that pay for their training session on the side...
Get it??
what school are you talking about?
EAST IS BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NP will Do what- They are not That Good, and Benching starting Goalie from last year, Then He quit Team, has Ruined the season, another great coaching job in NP
They are going to need them against the Smthtowns, though I think N will beat Whitman and BS by a wide margin
Some big upsets today. Suffolk A is really heating up. Great to see and looking forward to playoffs.
Why this sounds like coming from 10&11 wm parents complaining?
SHAME!
WM is better than this.
Playing WM JV does guarantee making Var Team.
Stop complaining and talk to wm coaches if you have any issues.
You are right WM parents do complain a lot. Just watch tape of WM and Chaminade game or talk to parents from SW game. My guess is it is the upperclassman or parents upset that there kids are not seeing playing time.
Ward Melville has one 9th grader and two 10th graders who see meaningful playing time. No different from recent years, they have been bringing up 9th and 10th graders for many years at Melville. The Senior Class has the most players who see significant playing time with 6 or 7. Junior Class is right there with with 5 -7. They have a bunch of 9th and 10th graders on the Varsity but they do not see a lot of game time.
Can you explain today asinine loss by the coach and his 9th graders/10 graders super star's as well his calculated move to kill the clock with so much time left.
For those of you who have Twitter, I will be covering Nassau and Suffolk lacrosse over at my Twitter page (
http://twitter.com/DanLILax), as well as on LI Lacrosse News. I will have up-to-date playoff coverage of Class A, B1, B2, and B3, and the NSCHSAA.
The playoffs are always an extremely exciting time and this year should be no different. Hope you join me on the ride.
Why this sounds like coming from 10&11 wm parents complaining?
SHAME!
WM is better than this.
Playing WM JV does guarantee making Var Team.
Stop complaining and talk to wm coaches if you have any issues.
You are right WM parents do complain a lot. Just watch tape of WM and Chaminade game or talk to parents from SW game. My guess is it is the upperclassman or parents upset that there kids are not seeing playing time.
Ward Melville has one 9th grader and two 10th graders who see meaningful playing time. No different from recent years, they have been bringing up 9th and 10th graders for many years at Melville. The Senior Class has the most players who see significant playing time with 6 or 7. Junior Class is right there with with 5 -7. They have a bunch of 9th and 10th graders on the Varsity but they do not see a lot of game time.
Can you explain today asinine loss by the coach and his 9th graders/10 graders super star's as well his calculated move to kill the clock with so much time left.
Unfortunately no. I was not at the game but last I checked Lacrosse is a team sport so I doubt is was one or two players who were responsible for the loss.
I never called the 9th and 10th graders superstars. What I did was point out that the makeup of this team (in terms of grade and who plays) is no different from recent years. The majority of the playing time goes to seniors and juniors. Did something changed yesterday? Did more than one 9th grader see significant playing time yesterday? How about 10th graders? Did more than two 10th graders see a lot of action? I assume it was the same as it has been.
9th - 1
10th - 2
11th - 5 - 6
12th - 5 - 7
I do not agree with it but that is the way it has been at Ward Melville for several years.
Are there players on the sideline who are just as good or better than the players on the field? Yes there are. That has been happening for a while as well but it does not mean that the players who are lucky enough to play are not good.
I can not elaborate on the game management but I will say that players need to play until the final whistle. I am sure the coach did not tell the boys to stop playing defense.
WM did not lose the game because of 9th& 10th graders. SN is a very good, tough team. WM had plenty of scoring opportunities that they
didnt finish. Too many off cage shots from WM's offense. SN plays
tough, has a great fogo, WM wont beat a team like that having a crappy shooting day. 9th & 10th graders didnt lose this game. Hats off to SN for playing well.
WM went into a stall played not to lose. Had control of the game at 7 min mark with attack man standing behind cage for 2 mins the stall disrupted the flow and actually fired up Sachem when they got the ball back. The choice of strategy was odd as they had a 3 goal lead and to that point held them to 4 goals and only 1 in the second half to that point. WM would have been more effective shooting the ball and backing up X and controlling possessions that way as they were throughout the game. Sachem North solid take nothing away from them they were given an opportunity and took advantage of it.
Whitman will need to win the NP game to make the playoffs I say NP wins by 4 but WW will keep it close to the 4th
A lot of people are sleeping on Whitman this year. They are a MUCH better team then there record says. I say they beat NP 10-6
Why this sounds like coming from 10&11 wm parents complaining?
SHAME!
WM is better than this.
Playing WM JV does guarantee making Var Team.
Stop complaining and talk to wm coaches if you have any issues.
You are right WM parents do complain a lot. Just watch tape of WM and Chaminade game or talk to parents from SW game. My guess is it is the upperclassman or parents upset that there kids are not seeing playing time.
Ward Melville has one 9th grader and two 10th graders who see meaningful playing time. No different from recent years, they have been bringing up 9th and 10th graders for many years at Melville. The Senior Class has the most players who see significant playing time with 6 or 7. Junior Class is right there with with 5 -7. They have a bunch of 9th and 10th graders on the Varsity but they do not see a lot of game time.
Can you explain today asinine loss by the coach and his 9th graders/10 graders super star's as well his calculated move to kill the clock with so much time left.
Unfortunately no. I was not at the game but last I checked Lacrosse is a team sport so I doubt is was one or two players who were responsible for the loss.
I never called the 9th and 10th graders superstars. What I did was point out that the makeup of this team (in terms of grade and who plays) is no different from recent years. The majority of the playing time goes to seniors and juniors. Did something changed yesterday? Did more than one 9th grader see significant playing time yesterday? How about 10th graders? Did more than two 10th graders see a lot of action? I assume it was the same as it has been.
9th - 1
10th - 2
11th - 5 - 6
12th - 5 - 7
I do not agree with it but that is the way it has been at Ward Melville for several years.
Are there players on the sideline who are just as good or better than the players on the field? Yes there are. That has been happening for a while as well but it does not mean that the players who are lucky enough to play are not good.
I can not elaborate on the game management but I will say that players need to play until the final whistle. I am sure the coach did not tell the boys to stop playing defense.
If you weren't there then why are you commenting. Unless of course you get the play by play form the coaches that you have on speed dial. It is all clear to me now.
You are what your recodr says you are!! Doubtful that the whitman def can hold down northport.
You are what your recodr says you are!! Doubtful that the whitman def can hold down northport.
That's Funny NP only has a couple kids that can score, and coach Blew it with Goalie that quit. NP going no Where
You are what your recodr says you are!! Doubtful that the whitman def can hold down northport.
That's Funny NP only has a couple kids that can score, and coach Blew it with Goalie that quit. NP going no Where
NP with a HUGE come from Behind win Tonight against William Floyd
Northport beats William Floyd 14-13, Whitman beat Floyd 15-1....
You are what your recodr says you are!! Doubtful that the whitman def can hold down northport.
NP 14 Floyd 13
Whitman 15 Floyd 1
Well see what happens when they match up.
Does NP have any major injuries? A win over Floyd is nothing to brag about.
Commack beat Floyd by more. Give me a break.
A lot of these high school coaches have an agenda. They want to bring up a freshman so they will get all the praise if the player actually pans out to be something special. Some of these programs are more like jv teams with a few juniors and seniors sprinkled in among the 13 and 14 year olds playing varsity. Does not usually work. These players need to develop on the jv team with the exception of the few that are truly special.
Truly special does not account for weak rpand or thin ranks...thus not all freshmen on varsity are special at all. Some are just filling a void.
Schools like SA's, Chaminade, GC and others don't bring very well qualified or even committed freshman to varsity.
They have plenty of talent and can afford to let their truly special players in the 9th and 10th grade continue to mature and not necessarily rob the cradle.
Truly special does not account for weak rpand or thin ranks...thus not all freshmen on varsity are special at all. Some are just filling a void.
Schools like SA's, Chaminade, GC and others don't bring very well qualified or even committed freshman to varsity.
They have plenty of talent and can afford to let their truly special players in the 9th and 10th grade continue to mature and not necessarily rob the cradle.
I dom't know about St Anthony's or Chaminade but GC brings 9th and 10th graders up. Smithtown W, Smithtown E, Ward Melville, CSH, Manhasset have all been known to bring 9th and 10th graders up.
Maybe Chaminade should bring up underclassman after getting rolled by Greenwich....he he he
Why this sounds like coming from 10&11 wm parents complaining?
SHAME!
WM is better than this.
Playing WM JV does guarantee making Var Team.
Stop complaining and talk to wm coaches if you have any issues.
You are right WM parents do complain a lot. Just watch tape of WM and Chaminade game or talk to parents from SW game. My guess is it is the upperclassman or parents upset that there kids are not seeing playing time.
Ward Melville has one 9th grader and two 10th graders who see meaningful playing time. No different from recent years, they have been bringing up 9th and 10th graders for many years at Melville. The Senior Class has the most players who see significant playing time with 6 or 7. Junior Class is right there with with 5 -7. They have a bunch of 9th and 10th graders on the Varsity but they do not see a lot of game time.
Can you explain today asinine loss by the coach and his 9th graders/10 graders super star's as well his calculated move to kill the clock with so much time left.
Unfortunately no. I was not at the game but last I checked Lacrosse is a team sport so I doubt is was one or two players who were responsible for the loss.
I never called the 9th and 10th graders superstars. What I did was point out that the makeup of this team (in terms of grade and who plays) is no different from recent years. The majority of the playing time goes to seniors and juniors. Did something changed yesterday? Did more than one 9th grader see significant playing time yesterday? How about 10th graders? Did more than two 10th graders see a lot of action? I assume it was the same as it has been.
9th - 1
10th - 2
11th - 5 - 6
12th - 5 - 7
I do not agree with it but that is the way it has been at Ward Melville for several years.
Are there players on the sideline who are just as good or better than the players on the field? Yes there are. That has been happening for a while as well but it does not mean that the players who are lucky enough to play are not good.
I can not elaborate on the game management but I will say that players need to play until the final whistle. I am sure the coach did not tell the boys to stop playing defense.
If you weren't there then why are you commenting. Unless of course you get the play by play form the coaches that you have on speed dial. It is all clear to me now.
Commenting because there are some people who are complaining about 9th and 10th graders getting playing time. My point is that Ward Melville has been doing it for years. I don't agree with it and I do not think that they need to do it but they do.
My son is not a 9th or 10th grader and I am not one of the [lacrosse] kissers. I was just pointing to the fact that it is nothing new at WM to bring players up. The majority of playing time goes to the seniors and juniors. As is always the case at WM there are boys on the sideline who are very good players but for whatever reason the coaches choose to go with other players.
Commack beat Floyd by more. Give me a break.
Commack beat Floyd 12-10. NP 14-13 not much of a difference
WW beat Floyd 15-1 big difference.
You are what your recodr says you are!! Doubtful that the whitman def can hold down northport.
NP 14 Floyd 13
Whitman 15 Floyd 1
Well see what happens when they match up.
Whitman better watch out for west bab- We are going to be ready For them
A lot of these high school coaches have an agenda. They want to bring up a freshman so they will get all the praise if the player actually pans out to be something special. Some of these programs are more like jv teams with a few juniors and seniors sprinkled in among the 13 and 14 year olds playing varsity. Does not usually work. These players need to develop on the jv team with the exception of the few that are truly special.
9th and 10th graders won the game for smithtown east vs. west. Just saying?
You are what your recodr says you are!! Doubtful that the whitman def can hold down northport.
NP 14 Floyd 13
Whitman 15 Floyd 1
Well see what happens when they match up.
Whitman better watch out for west bab- We are going to be ready For them
I hope this is a joke hahah
What you should have said is NP might need to beat WW to make the playoffs, last three games for NP are West, East and WW
2 guaranteed losses, and WW is looking pretty good
What you should have said is NP might need to beat WW to make the playoffs, last three games for NP are West, East and WW
2 guaranteed losses, and WW is looking pretty good
Your Right with Power points NP Might not make it, Wow that would be something. No Votes in NP for coach of the year
News just in from the lowest of the low department...just to make the point that obsessed narcissist former head coach and parent from Smithtown West made a scene yesterday after the 15-3 win yesterday against Middle country. The dad ran down from the press box (where he announces the game) and is overheard by many people arguing and debating with his son's own coaches to politic for an "extra" assist to give his son yet another stat for the record book so he can "beat Rob Pannell's record of 11 points in a game. The score was 10-2 at the half...You must be very proud!
News just in from the lowest of the low department...just to make the point that obsessed narcissist former head coach and parent from Smithtown West made a scene yesterday after the 15-3 win yesterday against Middle country. The dad ran down from the press box (where he announces the game) and is overheard by many people arguing and debating with his son's own coaches to politic for an "extra" assist to give his son yet another stat for the record book so he can "beat Rob Pannell's record of 11 points in a game. The score was 10-2 at the half...You must be very proud!
He's also probably not Happy to be in 2nd Place in Suffolk in Scoring.
Sounds like Shoreham wading rivers new coach
Sounds like Shoreham wading rivers new coach
What you should have said is NP might need to beat WW to make the playoffs, last three games for NP are West, East and WW
2 guaranteed losses, and WW is looking pretty good
Your Right with Power points NP Might not make it, Wow that would be something. No Votes in NP for coach of the year
Sounds just like swr now....Def not winning anything but hopefully a one way ticket back to ww
News just in from the lowest of the low department...just to make the point that obsessed narcissist former head coach and parent from Smithtown West made a scene yesterday after the 15-3 win yesterday against Middle country. The dad ran down from the press box (where he announces the game) and is overheard by many people arguing and debating with his son's own coaches to politic for an "extra" assist to give his son yet another stat for the record book so he can "beat Rob Pannell's record of 11 points in a game. The score was 10-2 at the half...You must be very proud!
He has been this way since he was a player in the shadow of Timmy Goldstein at Ward Melville. He was embarrassing on the sidelines for years and was removed from coaching a youth tournament, as well as the varsity job because of his antics.
Let me guess the SW announcer who is a piece of thrash and goes by the name of Keenan......Shocking
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
I'm a SA parent and alum and find i need to defend the Bubble Bathers here (still can't believe i am though
). there is no shame in losing a game to Yorktown (tests or no tests). Quality program up there. Losses happen. Just hoping they lose 2 more games this year and not against Greenwich, Fairfield Prep or Delbarton!
Elite private lax programs should never lose to a town team that has a small fraction of the talent pool to draw from. Two years in a row? It's an embarassment - especially on your home field. Period.
Compare the number of college committed kids between Chaminade and Yorktown. The result is a huge surprise any way you look at it. Yorktown, the giant slayer!
If you combined the # of D1 commits between Yorktown and Greenwich I bet it isn't half of what Chaminade has. How on earth do these little town teams embarrass this supposed lax giant? Greenwich is particularly impressive given how much talent in the town goes to Brunswick.
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
I'm a SA parent and alum and find i need to defend the Bubble Bathers here (still can't believe i am though
). there is no shame in losing a game to Yorktown (tests or no tests). Quality program up there. Losses happen. Just hoping they lose 2 more games this year and not against Greenwich, Fairfield Prep or Delbarton!
Elite private lax programs should never lose to a town team that has a small fraction of the talent pool to draw from. Two years in a row? It's an embarassment - especially on your home field. Period.
Compare the number of college committed kids between Chaminade and Yorktown. The result is a huge surprise any way you look at it. Yorktown, the giant slayer!
If you combined the # of D1 commits between Yorktown and Greenwich I bet it isn't half of what Chaminade has. How on earth do these little town teams embarrass this supposed lax giant? Greenwich is particularly impressive given how much talent in the town goes to Brunswick.
I bet sooner or later Chaminade stops playing town teams like this because it's too embarrassing and they'd rather beat up on the weak Catholics like Holy Trinity and Kellenberg and keep their record intact. Well done Greenwich and Yorktown.
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
I'm a SA parent and alum and find i need to defend the Bubble Bathers here (still can't believe i am though
). there is no shame in losing a game to Yorktown (tests or no tests). Quality program up there. Losses happen. Just hoping they lose 2 more games this year and not against Greenwich, Fairfield Prep or Delbarton!
Elite private lax programs should never lose to a town team that has a small fraction of the talent pool to draw from. Two years in a row? It's an embarassment - especially on your home field. Period.
Compare the number of college committed kids between Chaminade and Yorktown. The result is a huge surprise any way you look at it. Yorktown, the giant slayer!
If you combined the # of D1 commits between Yorktown and Greenwich I bet it isn't half of what Chaminade has. How on earth do these little town teams embarrass this supposed lax giant? Greenwich is particularly impressive given how much talent in the town goes to Brunswick.
Chaminade kids are politically connected and overrated
To all you Chaminade haters just look at their schedule. Week in and week out they play a top team. They can't play everyone and have to play their conference games. You know those conference games that Hills wins 20-2 and run up the score which Chaminade never does. Chaminade does not recruit players and have their pick of the best. Some of the best kids could not get in or did not want to attend. JM never knows what he has until the first day of school. Then they have to buy into the Chaminade way and stick it out before JM even gets them on his team. Not to mention the 2 -3 hours of school work each night. Just so happens the St Anthony's game and the Yorktown game came during Trimesters and senior tests so work load was even more intense. No excuses they got beat and could lose the next two. Why could they lose because again they are getting ready to play a top team from CT and good old Delbarton and then playoffs. There is no tougher schedule out there
I'm a SA parent and alum and find i need to defend the Bubble Bathers here (still can't believe i am though
). there is no shame in losing a game to Yorktown (tests or no tests). Quality program up there. Losses happen. Just hoping they lose 2 more games this year and not against Greenwich, Fairfield Prep or Delbarton!
Elite private lax programs should never lose to a town team that has a small fraction of the talent pool to draw from. Two years in a row? It's an embarassment - especially on your home field. Period.
Compare the number of college committed kids between Chaminade and Yorktown. The result is a huge surprise any way you look at it. Yorktown, the giant slayer!
If you combined the # of D1 commits between Yorktown and Greenwich I bet it isn't half of what Chaminade has. How on earth do these little town teams embarrass this supposed lax giant? Greenwich is particularly impressive given how much talent in the town goes to Brunswick.
Chaminade kids are politically connected and overrated
Just a NJ dad here with no dog in the fight. Cut Chamindae some slack. They play an incredibly tough schedule every year and typically are a top team year in and year out. However, it is very tough to run the gauntlet because everyone comes after you. Delbarton in NJ has the same situation. Always good teams with a lot of talent, but very difficult to run the gauntlet playing Chaminadae, St. Ants, Summit (who seems to have their number), Mountain Lakes, etc.
No excuses. Public town teams with only a few D1 commits should not be consistently beating these regional private lacrosse powerhouses that have nearly a full D1 team sitting on the bench. Trust me, the Chaminade coaches, parents and players are very surprised to lose (especially in convincing fashion) to these public schools.
Have to agree with NJ Dad, I'm a public guy but Chaminade plays a tough schedule. Look at last year's state and national champs- undefeated Ward Melville. Because they play in Suffolk A - a league with too many teams, they have only two out of conference games. They played a decent Garnet Valley,Pa. team and Garden City. GC gave them the best competition and was the only team they didn't put up double digits on. As good as they were, if they had say five OOC games and had a similar schedule to Chaminade, I don't think they go undefeated.
Chaminade has a few very talented kids and some good ones. But the team wasnt recruited. It is made up of kids who decided to go to the school and then come out for the lacrosse team. I think being at chaminade gave some of the kids the opportunity to commit to d1 teams. Doesnt mean the team is made up of D1 talent though. You can bet some of those kids will never touch the field at the next level but if they are able to achieve a better education for it more power to them. They play a diff sched and some times you play a team either public or private that just has the right group of kids.
Chaminade has a few very talented kids and some good ones. But the team wasnt recruited. It is made up of kids who decided to go to the school and then come out for the lacrosse team. I think being at chaminade gave some of the kids the opportunity to commit to d1 teams. Doesnt mean the team is made up of D1 talent though. You can bet some of those kids will never touch the field at the next level but if they are able to achieve a better education for it more power to them. They play a diff sched and some times you play a team either public or private that just has the right group of kids.
My kid is still in middle school so I'm new at this but can you please explain how somebody can be recruited to take a d1 roster spot but not be d1 talent? Thanks.
we watched him pull the same crap when his older son was playing. after a goal that his kid was involved with he would sprint to the scorers table and tell them assist or goal from #3! It was hysterical watching this especially during playoff games where he was way more focused on insuring his kids got credit for the point than the teams next faceoff! There were also plenty of times when in doubt he would give the assist to his kid. been padding their stats for years.
What impact do you think the Chaminade losses (as an example)will have on early recruiting?
If HS programs with a significant number of early recruits on their roster continue to lose to teams made up of kids that have not been early recruited, I think it will force a slow down in the early recruiting trend.
Projecting forward to 2017-2018 it does not bode well for ACC schools which are full of early recruits from the power schools.
What impact do you think the Chaminade losses (as an example)will have on early recruiting?
If HS programs with a significant number of early recruits on their roster continue to lose to teams made up of kids that have not been early recruited, I think it will force a slow down in the early recruiting trend.
Projecting forward to 2017-2018 it does not bode well for ACC schools which are full of early recruits from the power schools.
None - they know they be well-coached and know what they are getting in general from the Chaminades and Delbartons of the world. Coaches don't just take a kid because he went to a certain school.
What impact do you think the Chaminade losses (as an example)will have on early recruiting?
If HS programs with a significant number of early recruits on their roster continue to lose to teams made up of kids that have not been early recruited, I think it will force a slow down in the early recruiting trend.
Projecting forward to 2017-2018 it does not bode well for ACC schools which are full of early recruits from the power schools.
Why are Chaminade out of state loses not reflected in their overall standings? Schools like Rocky point who played and lost in Maryland have that counting against them?
we watched him pull the same crap when his older son was playing. after a goal that his kid was involved with he would sprint to the scorers table and tell them assist or goal from #3! It was hysterical watching this especially during playoff games where he was way more focused on insuring his kids got credit for the point than the teams next faceoff! There were also plenty of times when in doubt he would give the assist to his kid. been padding their stats for years.
Says the west bench boy daddy!
What impact do you think the Chaminade losses (as an example)will have on early recruiting?
If HS programs with a significant number of early recruits on their roster continue to lose to teams made up of kids that have not been early recruited, I think it will force a slow down in the early recruiting trend.
Projecting forward to 2017-2018 it does not bode well for ACC schools which are full of early recruits from the power schools.
None - they know they be well-coached and know what they are getting in general from the Chaminades and Delbartons of the world. Coaches don't just take a kid because he went to a certain school.
Chaminade should consider taking up younger players. it is working out really well for other teams. They have a standout Faceoff guy who is a sophomore but refuse to bring him up even as they have trouble in that position.
What impact do you think the Chaminade losses (as an example)will have on early recruiting?
If HS programs with a significant number of early recruits on their roster continue to lose to teams made up of kids that have not been early recruited, I think it will force a slow down in the early recruiting trend.
Projecting forward to 2017-2018 it does not bode well for ACC schools which are full of early recruits from the power schools.
You are waaaay overthinking this. College coaches don't care about what high school team a kid is on and how that team performs. They care about the skill and character of the player they are recruiting, plain and simple.
What impact do you think the Chaminade losses (as an example)will have on early recruiting?
If HS programs with a significant number of early recruits on their roster continue to lose to teams made up of kids that have not been early recruited, I think it will force a slow down in the early recruiting trend.
Projecting forward to 2017-2018 it does not bode well for ACC schools which are full of early recruits from the power schools.
None - they know they be well-coached and know what they are getting in general from the Chaminades and Delbartons of the world. Coaches don't just take a kid because he went to a certain school.
Chaminade should consider taking up younger players. it is working out really well for other teams. They have a standout Faceoff guy who is a sophomore but refuse to bring him up even as they have trouble in that position.
My son is a freshman (not a hold back) playing on a top 25 ranked H.S. team. He is the 6/7th middie on the team and plays a fair amount but not a ton. They took him on the team as they like to run 7+ middies and he is right there, but not playing as much as he would if he played JV or freshman. However, he is getting much better and has played some key minutes in big games vs. other top teams. I think he should be playing more but really must defer to the coaches. The coaches want to win and will play the best kids that they think can help them win. We all need to trust in that. They are not holding anything against the younger players, but if it is close they will play the older, more experienced kids. Nonetheless, a select number of freshman are making an impact on top teams in the try-state area, even if not at Chaminade or St. Ants.
Well trying to talk to WM coaches doesn't seem to help if anything it has back fired on the kid/kids that have tried. Unless your kid happens to be from one of the [lacrosse] KISSING PARENTS it's very unfortunate for the rest of the kids.
Well trying to talk to the WM coaches doesn't seem to help. If anything it has back fired on the kid/kids that have tried. Unless your kid happens to be from one of the [lacrosse] KISSING PARENTS it's very unfortunate for the rest of the kids.
What impact do you think the Chaminade losses (as an example)will have on early recruiting?
If HS programs with a significant number of early recruits on their roster continue to lose to teams made up of kids that have not been early recruited, I think it will force a slow down in the early recruiting trend.
Projecting forward to 2017-2018 it does not bode well for ACC schools which are full of early recruits from the power schools.
None - they know they be well-coached and know what they are getting in general from the Chaminades and Delbartons of the world. Coaches don't just take a kid because he went to a certain school.
Chaminade should consider taking up younger players. it is working out really well for other teams. They have a standout Faceoff guy who is a sophomore but refuse to bring him up even as they have trouble in that position.
Why would they? They have a proven track record that you cannot dispute. Also it is difficult to bring someone up who has been injured all season and has only played 2 games. All 3 Chaminade teams are doing just fine.
What impact do you think the Chaminade losses (as an example)will have on early recruiting?
If HS programs with a significant number of early recruits on their roster continue to lose to teams made up of kids that have not been early recruited, I think it will force a slow down in the early recruiting trend.
Projecting forward to 2017-2018 it does not bode well for ACC schools which are full of early recruits from the power schools.
None - they know they be well-coached and know what they are getting in general from the Chaminades and Delbartons of the world. Coaches don't just take a kid because he went to a certain school.
Chaminade should consider taking up younger players. it is working out really well for other teams. They have a standout Faceoff guy who is a sophomore but refuse to bring him up even as they have trouble in that position.
Why would they? They have a proven track record that you cannot dispute. Also it is difficult to bring someone up who has been injured all season and has only played 2 games. All 3 Chaminade teams are doing just fine.
God forbid anybody question or suggest changes to the status quo at this place. Heresy! Just shut up and fall in line like the rest of the sheep or you will brought before the inquisition for insubordination.
What impact do you think the Chaminade losses (as an example)will have on early recruiting?
If HS programs with a significant number of early recruits on their roster continue to lose to teams made up of kids that have not been early recruited, I think it will force a slow down in the early recruiting trend.
Projecting forward to 2017-2018 it does not bode well for ACC schools which are full of early recruits from the power schools.
None - they know they be well-coached and know what they are getting in general from the Chaminades and Delbartons of the world. Coaches don't just take a kid because he went to a certain school.
Chaminade should consider taking up younger players. it is working out really well for other teams. They have a standout Faceoff guy who is a sophomore but refuse to bring him up even as they have trouble in that position.
Why would they? They have a proven track record that you cannot dispute. Also it is difficult to bring someone up who has been injured all season and has only played 2 games. All 3 Chaminade teams are doing just fine.
God forbid anybody question or suggest changes to the status quo at this place. Heresy! Just shut up and fall in line like the rest of the sheep or you will brought before the inquisition for insubordination.
This is crazy..., you send your kid there by choice knowing the system that is in place and then complain about the system... wth
Well trying to talk to the WM coaches doesn't seem to help. If anything it has back fired on the kid/kids that have tried. Unless your kid happens to be from one of the [lacrosse] KISSING PARENTS it's very unfortunate for the rest of the kids.
WMs record speaks for themselves. Let them continue to bury themselves with bizarre decisions.
What impact do you think the Chaminade losses (as an example)will have on early recruiting?
If HS programs with a significant number of early recruits on their roster continue to lose to teams made up of kids that have not been early recruited, I think it will force a slow down in the early recruiting trend.
Projecting forward to 2017-2018 it does not bode well for ACC schools which are full of early recruits from the power schools.
None - they know they be well-coached and know what they are getting in general from the Chaminades and Delbartons of the world. Coaches don't just take a kid because he went to a certain school.
Chaminade should consider taking up younger players. it is working out really well for other teams. They have a standout Faceoff guy who is a sophomore but refuse to bring him up even as they have trouble in that position.
Why would they? They have a proven track record that you cannot dispute. Also it is difficult to bring someone up who has been injured all season and has only played 2 games. All 3 Chaminade teams are doing just fine.
God forbid anybody question or suggest changes to the status quo at this place. Heresy! Just shut up and fall in line like the rest of the sheep or you will brought before the inquisition for insubordination.
This is crazy..., you send your kid there by choice knowing the system that is in place and then complain about the system... wth
You should take your head out of the sand and so should the Chaminade coaches. Given the dramatic changes in the recruiting landscape and undeniable trend for freshman to play varsity even at the most excellent public school lax programs is something that Chaminade should be paying attention to. No lacrosse program is above the landscape or beyond reproach to be questioned. I have no doubt there a growing number of families who are deciding against sending their excellent lacrosse players precisely because they don't want to wait 2 years before seeing a varsity field when they can see it right away as a Freshman where they are. If Chaminade doesn't adjust they program will begin to fray at the edges and miss out on a lot of great talent that would have otherwise come their way. Wake up!!
so your saying the starters are all from [lacrosse] kissing parents? wm
has been a top program for many years, I would think the coaches
know what they are doing, no?
Just because the Chaminade way has been successful in the past doesn't mean it will be in the future. They should at least open up their rigid thinking and have an open mind to it given that everybody else in the lacrosse world has and seems to be doing very well with it. Look at how many underclassmen are now playing varsity (and seeing significant field time) at Garden City and Manhasset, two of their historical primary sources of talent that will eventually be shut off if they don't adjust. Manhasset and GC have been much more aggressive in recent years in bringing their best young players up faster and no doubt as a defensive measure to keep these great players from jumping ship to Chaminade. And it's working. They have found the Achilles heel in the Chaminade formula and are exploiting that weakness.
Once again Chaminade as a school could care less about winning games and sports and that is why they will not change. Academics are far more important to the Brothers in charge at Chaminade. Not to say they have not moved kids up before because they have and one is playing this year that was on Varsity last year as well and I think they moved a baseball player up this year. It is rare but it happens. As far as hurting recruiting no way. These kids are more prepared for college work than most if not all from other schools and the coaches know that. College coaches are not going to your local schools looking for kids unless they hear about them first and definitely not going to the lower tear schools for anyone. Better be playing for a good summer team. But you will see 15 -20 coaches on sidelines for Chaminade St Anthony's game every year. I do not have a kid at the school so dont bash me for that but I live on LI and know the reputation and have spoken to many head coaches.
Times change. If the church can adjust with the times, so can their lacrosse programs.
I think Chaminade could care less !
Once again Chaminade as a school could care less about winning games and sports and that is why they will not change. Academics are far more important to the Brothers in charge at Chaminade. Not to say they have not moved kids up before because they have and one is playing this year that was on Varsity last year as well and I think they moved a baseball player up this year. It is rare but it happens. As far as hurting recruiting no way. These kids are more prepared for college work than most if not all from other schools and the coaches know that. College coaches are not going to your local schools looking for kids unless they hear about them first and definitely not going to the lower tear schools for anyone. Better be playing for a good summer team. But you will see 15 -20 coaches on sidelines for Chaminade St Anthony's game every year. I do not have a kid at the school so dont bash me for that but I live on LI and know the reputation and have spoken to many head coaches.
You're certifiable if you think that Chaminade doesn't care about winning games and sports. Why then the flashy athletic center and redo of the stadium? Just because the money was burning a hole in their pockets? Please...Chaminade knows that good athletics = good business and cares deeply about both.
I think Chaminade could care less !
They will when all they get are great students but crummy athletes. Believe me, they'll start to care a whole lot.
Forget about how many D1 commits a school has. A lot of it is political b/s. How many kids can you think of that are deserving and good enough but maybe their father wouldn't get on his knees.
The Alumni care about winning.
I'm not saying that the recipe for bringing up freshman and sophomores is always a mistake. Its just so many coaches rush to bring up a kid that may have been good on a middle school team , pass JV and take him right to varsity. Happening everywhere. Some of the better programs are paying the price....when is the last time Long Beach beat Wantagh......
I think Chaminade could care less !
They will when all they get are great students but crummy athletes. Believe me, they'll start to care a whole lot.
Have you seen the 2017 class???? Also the incoming freshman (2018) class, those 2 combined will be very difficult to beat. The current Freshman class are playing at a exceptional level.
Once again Chaminade as a school could care less about winning games and sports and that is why they will not change. Academics are far more important to the Brothers in charge at Chaminade. Not to say they have not moved kids up before because they have and one is playing this year that was on Varsity last year as well and I think they moved a baseball player up this year. It is rare but it happens. As far as hurting recruiting no way. These kids are more prepared for college work than most if not all from other schools and the coaches know that. College coaches are not going to your local schools looking for kids unless they hear about them first and definitely not going to the lower tear schools for anyone. Better be playing for a good summer team. But you will see 15 -20 coaches on sidelines for Chaminade St Anthony's game every year. I do not have a kid at the school so dont bash me for that but I live on LI and know the reputation and have spoken to many head coaches.
You obviously don't know anything about Chaminade if you don't think they care about sports and winning. That's the biggest Ivory Tower BS I've ever seen on here. I'm an alumni and I know first hand they care very deeply about sports and winning. Nothing wrong with that. You need to do a little more research.
Chaminade needs to evolve, or the will fade. With the current early recruiting climate, the top freshman and sophomores need to be seen playing varsity in order to lock in the best scholarship offers. Fact!
Chaminade needs to evolve, or the will fade. With the current early recruiting climate, the top freshman and sophomores need to be seen playing varsity in order to lock in the best scholarship offers. Fact!
Don't worry, Chaminade is so flexible, easy going and open minded about everything that they will quickly adjust to the new reality.
It appears that they have been playing the younger guys. The point production out of the seniors is very low with the exception of SC.
must been alot of celebrating going on at SE this past weekend, falling to Bayshore 11-6!
I am an Alum as well. If they cared why not recruit like other Catholic Schools. Why not buy additional jerseys for the lax team instead of the 48 they have when they have double numbers on the sidelines. If a kid is really that good give him a pass and let him in. So what if he didn'tt do well on the entrance exam he can help you win win win. Why doesn't it happen because it is not important. They put more money into clubs and other things then they do sports. Don't bring up the stadium because that was done by donation. Do they like it when they win yes but it is not the end of the world. Just listen to the speech Coach Boyd gave after the St Anthonys championship football game when Chaminade beat them. He listed sports as third on the list of most important things. If Your a true Chaminade grad you should know what one and two are.
must been alot of celebrating going on at SE this past weekend, falling to Bayshore 11-6!
Where were those 9th and 10th graders?? Just saying...
14 to 7 SW beats NPT and the score wasn't that close
must been alot of celebrating going on at SE this past weekend, falling to Bayshore 11-6!
Where were those 9th and 10th graders?? Just saying...
I know Bayshore had a few on the field for them today
Right. Win or lose it doesn't really matter to Chaminade - leave that stuff to the cave dwellers in South Huntington. I heard that after the Greenwich butt kicking, the only thing the Chaminade boys cared about was what kind of ice cream to have before getting back on the bus. If Chaminade cares so little about sports and winning you would think they would be the first to be playing freshman and sophomores because losing is "no biggie".
I'm not saying that the recipe for bringing up freshman and sophomores is always a mistake. Its just so many coaches rush to bring up a kid that may have been good on a middle school team , pass JV and take him right to varsity. Happening everywhere. Some of the better programs are paying the price....when is the last time Long Beach beat Wantagh......
last week
must been alot of celebrating going on at SE this past weekend, falling to Bayshore 11-6!
Where were those 9th and 10th graders?? Just saying...
Face off was 18/20 Smithtown (10th grader), but somehow the offence couldn't get the ball in! Bayshore defense very good.
This is a great read. They map out all the Division I players from around the country. New [lacrosse] has almost a quarter of the players. Chammy leads with 14 players. St. Anthony's with 12. Garden City with 10. Not too shabby...
http://24sevenlax.com/mapping-out-t...97796787912&fb_action_types=og.likes
Chaminade needs to evolve, or the will fade. With the current early recruiting climate, the top freshman and sophomores need to be seen playing varsity in order to lock in the best scholarship offers. Fact!
Fact? Not sure you are right about Chaminade's need to evolve. The 2017 Chaminade class is stacked and the incoming 2018 class is stacked too - they all know that Chaminade does not bring freshmen or sophomores up to varsity (with 2 exceptions that I know of where sophomores were brought up) - and yet they still go.
All the schools in this years tourny
Not all the D1 schools in the country
Chaminade needs to evolve, or the will fade. With the current early recruiting climate, the top freshman and sophomores need to be seen playing varsity in order to lock in the best scholarship offers. Fact!
Fact? Not sure you are right about Chaminade's need to evolve. The 2017 Chaminade class is stacked and the incoming 2018 class is stacked too - they all know that Chaminade does not bring freshmen or sophomores up to varsity (with 2 exceptions that I know of where sophomores were brought up) - and yet they still go.
Chaminade kids will be recruited thru express head coach has been there forever and there is no need to change a thing all schools know the deal
Chaminade needs to evolve, or the will fade. With the current early recruiting climate, the top freshman and sophomores need to be seen playing varsity in order to lock in the best scholarship offers. Fact!
Fact? Not sure you are right about Chaminade's need to evolve. The 2017 Chaminade class is stacked and the incoming 2018 class is stacked too - they all know that Chaminade does not bring freshmen or sophomores up to varsity (with 2 exceptions that I know of where sophomores were brought up) - and yet they still go.
Chaminade kids will be recruited thru express head coach has been there forever and there is no need to change a thing all schools know the deal
Why the resistance to change and evolution to match the changing environment? At least have an open mind to it. Why should these "stacked" 2017s and 2018s have to wait so long? Doesn't make sense. Open up the floodgates and lets see what happens.
Chaminade needs to evolve, or the will fade. With the current early recruiting climate, the top freshman and sophomores need to be seen playing varsity in order to lock in the best scholarship offers. Fact!
Fact? Not sure you are right about Chaminade's need to evolve. The 2017 Chaminade class is stacked and the incoming 2018 class is stacked too - they all know that Chaminade does not bring freshmen or sophomores up to varsity (with 2 exceptions that I know of where sophomores were brought up) - and yet they still go.
Chaminade kids will be recruited thru express head coach has been there forever and there is no need to change a thing all schools know the deal
Chaminade kids play mostly fl$ in the summer, not Express. fl$ practices are more central from a location standpoint.
must been alot of celebrating going on at SE this past weekend, falling to Bayshore 11-6!
Where were those 9th and 10th graders?? Just saying...
Face off was 18/20 Smithtown (10th grader), but somehow the offence couldn't get the ball in! Bayshore defense very good.
If East wants to advance, they will have to be consistent! Many players hot one game, cold the next.
Chaminade needs to evolve, or the will fade. With the current early recruiting climate, the top freshman and sophomores need to be seen playing varsity in order to lock in the best scholarship offers. Fact!
Fact? Not sure you are right about Chaminade's need to evolve. The 2017 Chaminade class is stacked and the incoming 2018 class is stacked too - they all know that Chaminade does not bring freshmen or sophomores up to varsity (with 2 exceptions that I know of where sophomores were brought up) - and yet they still go.
Chaminade kids will be recruited thru express head coach has been there forever and there is no need to change a thing all schools know the deal
Chaminade kids play mostly fl$ in the summer, not Express. fl$ practices are more central from a location standpoint.
Chaminades top commits play for express. Chaminade does not have to change. Kids know going in that they will not play varsity till their junior year.They can stay at the public school if they want to play varsity. Kids go private for structure and that comes with rules. Period
This is old news...3 years ago we were hearing about how great 2015 will be...broken record...in my sons highschool all I hear about is how good the 2019 class is going to be. Its a repeated behavior over and over again by parents that have no clue and think somehow that an undefeated p.a.l. season in the 6th grade somehow translates into a state championship some 6 years later.
This is old news...3 years ago we were hearing about how great 2015 will be...broken record...in my sons highschool all I hear about is how good the 2019 class is going to be. Its a repeated behavior over and over again by parents that have no clue and think somehow that an undefeated p.a.l. season in the 6th grade somehow translates into a state championship some 6 years later.
yeah but I saw that 2020 Farmingdale P.A.L. Squad. They are wickedly skilled. Definitely moving off the island after the L.I.C. win.
This is old news...3 years ago we were hearing about how great 2015 will be...broken record...in my sons highschool all I hear about is how good the 2019 class is going to be. Its a repeated behavior over and over again by parents that have no clue and think somehow that an undefeated p.a.l. season in the 6th grade somehow translates into a state championship some 6 years later.
yeah but I saw that 2020 Farmingdale P.A.L. Squad. They are wickedly skilled. Definitely moving off the island after the L.I.C. win.
Best player is a 2019 re-classified and shouldn't even be a 2020, it is so unfair and I hear the stud middie is going to Kellenberg
This is old news...3 years ago we were hearing about how great 2015 will be...broken record...in my sons highschool all I hear about is how good the 2019 class is going to be. Its a repeated behavior over and over again by parents that have no clue and think somehow that an undefeated p.a.l. season in the 6th grade somehow translates into a state championship some 6 years later.
"Tomorrow we can drive around this town
And let the cops chase us around
The past is gone but something might be found
To take its place...hey jealousy"
Possible UPSET today in NASSAU
there is a possible upset every time a game is played... Giants Patriots Superbowl for example... ah the good old days.
New question! I would appreciate if someone knows how this works.
When are all county players selected and what is the process?
Also any info on all-american selection would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Chaminade needs to evolve, or the will fade. With the current early recruiting climate, the top freshman and sophomores need to be seen playing varsity in order to lock in the best scholarship offers. Fact!
Fact? Not sure you are right about Chaminade's need to evolve. The 2017 Chaminade class is stacked and the incoming 2018 class is stacked too - they all know that Chaminade does not bring freshmen or sophomores up to varsity (with 2 exceptions that I know of where sophomores were brought up) - and yet they still go.
Chaminade kids will be recruited thru express head coach has been there forever and there is no need to change a thing all schools know the deal
Chaminade kids play mostly fl$ in the summer, not Express. fl$ practices are more central from a location standpoint.
Chaminades top commits play for express. Chaminade does not have to change. Kids know going in that they will not play varsity till their junior year.They can stay at the public school if they want to play varsity. Kids go private for structure and that comes with rules. Period
There is no "rule" that says Freshman and Sophs can't play varsity at Chaminade. And even if there was, rules are made to be broken. You watch, this "philosophy" will change over the next couple of years. Bet on it.
Chaminade needs to evolve, or the will fade. With the current early recruiting climate, the top freshman and sophomores need to be seen playing varsity in order to lock in the best scholarship offers. Fact!
Fact? Not sure you are right about Chaminade's need to evolve. The 2017 Chaminade class is stacked and the incoming 2018 class is stacked too - they all know that Chaminade does not bring freshmen or sophomores up to varsity (with 2 exceptions that I know of where sophomores were brought up) - and yet they still go.
Chaminade kids will be recruited thru express head coach has been there forever and there is no need to change a thing all schools know the deal
Chaminade kids play mostly fl$ in the summer, not Express. fl$ practices are more central from a location standpoint.
Chaminades top commits play for express. Chaminade does not have to change. Kids know going in that they will not play varsity till their junior year.They can stay at the public school if they want to play varsity. Kids go private for structure and that comes with rules. Period
There is no "rule" that says Freshman and Sophs can't play varsity at Chaminade. And even if there was, rules are made to be broken. You watch, this "philosophy" will change over the next couple of years. Bet on it.
The paying customers are going to start demanding it so it will eventually happen.
Chaminade needs to evolve, or the will fade. With the current early recruiting climate, the top freshman and sophomores need to be seen playing varsity in order to lock in the best scholarship offers. Fact!
Fact? Not sure you are right about Chaminade's need to evolve. The 2017 Chaminade class is stacked and the incoming 2018 class is stacked too - they all know that Chaminade does not bring freshmen or sophomores up to varsity (with 2 exceptions that I know of where sophomores were brought up) - and yet they still go.
Chaminade kids will be recruited thru express head coach has been there forever and there is no need to change a thing all schools know the deal
Chaminade kids play mostly fl$ in the summer, not Express. fl$ practices are more central from a location standpoint.
Chaminades top commits play for express. Chaminade does not have to change. Kids know going in that they will not play varsity till their junior year.They can stay at the public school if they want to play varsity. Kids go private for structure and that comes with rules. Period
There is no "rule" that says Freshman and Sophs can't play varsity at Chaminade. And even if there was, rules are made to be broken. You watch, this "philosophy" will change over the next couple of years. Bet on it.
Who cares
Latest Under Armour/Inside Lacrosse Rankings as of May 7 make no sense to me:
Northeast
1. Massapequa (N.Y.), 11-2
2. Smithtown West (N.Y.), 12-1
3. Salisbury (Conn.), 9-2
4. Avon Old Farms (Conn.), 12-1
5. Greenwich (Conn.), 10-1
6. Garden City (N.Y.), 12-2
7. Chaminade (N.Y.), 9-2
8. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.), 10-3
9. Yorktown (N.Y.), 10-3
10. Taft (Conn.), 10-1
Massapequa lost to both Chaminade and Garden City but are ranked ahead of both teams. Chaminade lost to Yorktown and is ranked ahead of them. Smithtown West with 1 loss by 1 goal to rival East is ranked below Massapequa with 2 losses. Huh?
Tell a head coach your son has to play because daddy paid to send him there I am sure they will bow to you
As for Chaminade....the truth hurts......none of the freshman are good enough to make varsity !!!!
New question! I would appreciate if someone knows how this works.
When are all county players selected and what is the process?
Also any info on all-american selection would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Anyone??
As for Chaminade....the truth hurts......none of the freshman are good enough to make varsity !!!!
Agreed. You 2017 parents have to get a grip. The world does not revolve around your little princes. What makes you think you know more than the coaches? They have been there a lot longer than you and will likely be there when your kids graduate.
As for Chaminade....the truth hurts......none of the freshman are good enough to make varsity !!!!
Oh boy, here come the Barbarians trying to knock down the gate.
Pi
New question! I would appreciate if someone knows how this works.
When are all county players selected and what is the process?
Also any info on all-american selection would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Anyone??
On the girls side of things. The girls coaches submitted names for all American to section 11 last week. Now the head coaches look over the names and vote on who gets it. I'm sure it works the same on the boys side.
Latest Under Armour/Inside Lacrosse Rankings as of May 7 make no sense to me:
Northeast
1. Massapequa (N.Y.), 11-2
2. Smithtown West (N.Y.), 12-1
3. Salisbury (Conn.), 9-2
4. Avon Old Farms (Conn.), 12-1
5. Greenwich (Conn.), 10-1
6. Garden City (N.Y.), 12-2
7. Chaminade (N.Y.), 9-2
8. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.), 10-3
9. Yorktown (N.Y.), 10-3
10. Taft (Conn.), 10-1
Massapequa lost to both Chaminade and Garden City but are ranked ahead of both teams. Chaminade lost to Yorktown and is ranked ahead of them. Smithtown West with 1 loss by 1 goal to rival East is ranked below Massapequa with 2 losses. Huh?
Have to agree with you. I have seen Massapequa play a few times this year as I have a relative on the team, but they shouldn't be ranked # 1. They played both Garden City and Chaminade tough and close but still a loss is a loss. The rest of their schedule has not been challenging at all. They should win the county title again easily as Nassau A is very weak. They are a very deep team but I think their non-challenging schedule will come back to hurt them against the eventual Suffolk A champ. They haven't played a worthy opponent since early March. Suffolk A is so much more challenging. This is why they are better prepared to move on to the states. I think if you removed Massapequa from Nassau A this year, and replaced them with any of the top 8 Suffolk teams, any of those Suffolk teams would win Nassau.
Who's gonna win today?
Northport vs Whitman
Hills East vs West Islip
Hills West vs Ward Melville
What does everyone think?
16-2...you were really ready for them
Who's gonna win today?
Northport vs Whitman
Hills East vs West Islip
Hills West vs Ward Melville
What does everyone think?
NP 12-10
WI 7-5 If Hills Plays Zone all game- If Not 11-9 WI
HW Another 1 goal Game 8-7
But I will say they are all coin Flips
As for Chaminade....the truth hurts......none of the freshman are good enough to make varsity !!!!
Oh boy, here come the Barbarians trying to knock down the gate.
Yep, time to shake things up a bit on Hempstead Tpke. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Next year will be interesting on this front - trust me.
Chaminade visits St. Anthonys tonight at 7.
Who's gonna win today?
Northport vs Whitman
Hills East vs West Islip
Hills West vs Ward Melville
What does everyone think?
NP 12-10
WI 7-5 If Hills Plays Zone all game- If Not 11-9 WI
HW Another 1 goal Game 8-7
But I will say they are all coin Flips
Well, the LI (Lax) Medium you are not...
Pi
New question! I would appreciate if someone knows how this works.
When are all county players selected and what is the process?
Also any info on all-american selection would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Anyone??
On the girls side of things. The girls coaches submitted names for all American to section 11 last week. Now the head coaches look over the names and vote on who gets it. I'm sure it works the same on the boys side.
Thank you! I thought they would wait till the end of the regular season to make this decision. I also wasn't sure if post season would have an impact?
Whitman with a great 4 th Qtr comeback. It was a very bad called game . Then to top it off the Northport coaching staff asked for a classless stick check after a goal cause why. Ooooo cause Whitman just scored the tying goal and was controlling play. Props go out to the Whitman goalie for being outstanding between the pipes.
As for Chaminade....the truth hurts......none of the freshman are good enough to make varsity !!!!
Oh boy, here come the Barbarians trying to knock down the gate.
Yep, time to shake things up a bit on Hempstead Tpke. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Next year will be interesting on this front - trust me.
Change is coming in more ways than just this topic.
Heard NP Blew a 4 goal lead in 4th Quarter to WW- Any one at game with details??
Whitman with a great 4 th Qtr comeback. It was a very bad called game . Then to top it off the Northport coaching staff asked for a classless stick check after a goal cause why. Ooooo cause Whitman just scored the tying goal and was controlling play. Props go out to the Whitman goalie for being outstanding between the pipes.
Whitman Goalie was off the charts in 2nd half-
Was there . It is true.Not Up 4. Whitman stepped it up and Goalie for Whitman was straight up Outstanding keeping them in the game. Big save after big save.
I wouldn't say they blew the lead, Whitman just shut them down in the 4th. It was 10-6 npt to start the 4th, whitman face guy, dpole, frustrated the npt guy to no end. Whitman never gave up, relentless def and riding, goalie had a great game. Great finish with whitman scoring 2 in the last minute or so and playing some awesome def down the stretch. Outscored them 6-1 in the 4th. Both teams gave it all. Great game to watch.
Whitman with a great 4 th Qtr comeback. It was a very bad called game . Then to top it off the Northport coaching staff asked for a classless stick check after a goal cause why. Ooooo cause Whitman just scored the tying goal and was controlling play. Props go out to the Whitman goalie for being outstanding between the pipes.
The Brennan brothers (Attack and Goalie) were absolutely incredible. Goalie had huge saves down the stretch and attackmen is all over the field. Made excellent play to tie the game. Watched the game as an outsider and was a great game and great comeback.
It is going to be a great playoffs.
As for Chaminade....the truth hurts......none of the freshman are good enough to make varsity !!!!
Oh boy, here come the Barbarians trying to knock down the gate.
Yep, time to shake things up a bit on Hempstead Tpke. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Next year will be interesting on this front - trust me.
Change is coming in more ways than just this topic.
Gotta love the grandiose statements with no solid facts. Meaningless unless they are backed up with details. Otherwise, save the keystrokes.
St. Anthony's over Chaminade last night 8-7. Game winning goal was scored with 27 seconds left.
Maybe if Cham brought up some of the youngins, they would not have lost last night!
Maybe if Cham brought up some of the youngins, they would not have lost last night!
Youngins need more time. They beat JV Friars yesterday with smart, game screeching ball holding and weak testicular fortitude. Wouldn't play well at varsity level. I think the seniors pranked them by putting estrogen in the soap dispensers in the showers.
As for Chaminade....the truth hurts......none of the freshman are good enough to make varsity !!!!
Oh boy, here come the Barbarians trying to knock down the gate.
Yep, time to shake things up a bit on Hempstead Tpke. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Next year will be interesting on this front - trust me.
Change is coming in more ways than just this topic.
Gotta love the grandiose statements with no solid facts. Meaningless unless they are backed up with details. Otherwise, save the keystrokes.
What the coach is retiring? That's not new news is it? The when is the question.
Hills e/w/Whitman/Northport/Bay Shore. Which of those don't you want to face. Looks like they may face each other.
Heard there is a big article on the best FOGOs on LI coming out in Newsday on Sunday from coach Schomberg. Any predictions?
i predict Schomberg will recruit more fogos. He needs a bigger boat and a Maserati !
Schommy deserves it! His fogos are the best in the country... Getting recruited and scholarships from top programs... And any local LI kid can take advantage of Schommy's sessions any weekend!
Hills e/w/Whitman/Northport/Bay Shore. Which of those don't you want to face. Looks like they may face each other.
Don't want to Play Northport, Whitman, and Hills West: Hills West is always solid, Northport is a tough physical team led by Cannon and Whitman is very hot heading into playoffs. All very underrated teams
Anybody know the playoff seedings/match ups for nassau and Suffolk class a?
The players on whitman didnt quit the entire game. They didnt over think the great players of northport. They worked too hard to lose to a team that only beat floyd by 1, while whitman beat floyd 15-1. I think whitman deserves to be in playoffs and everyteam shouldnt think theyll mercy them.
What a great game played by Islip yesterday. Great coaching and great job by #6....hands down best kid on the field. What happened to Shoreham s power house team?
First round matchups:
4 Ward melville 13 Connetquot
5 West Islip 12 Sachem East
6 Hills West 11 Northport
7 Hills East 10 Hauppauge
8 Whitman 9 Bay Shore
Predictions:
Ward Melville win 9-7
West Islip win 11-5
Northport win 8-7
Hauppauge win 12-7
Bay Shore win 12-5
First round matchups:
4 Ward melville 13 Connetquot
5 West Islip 12 Sachem East
6 Hills West 11 Northport
7 Hills East 10 Hauppauge
8 Whitman 9 Bay Shore
Predictions:
Ward Melville win 9-7
West Islip win 11-5
Northport win 8-7
Hauppauge win 12-7
Bay Shore win 12-5
Whitman is going to win most likely, I can't believe you would predict that score and Hills West is going to win
First round matchups:
4 Ward melville 13 Connetquot
5 West Islip 12 Sachem East
6 Hills West 11 Northport
7 Hills East 10 Hauppauge
8 Whitman 9 Bay Shore
Predictions:
Ward Melville win 9-7
West Islip win 11-5
Northport win 8-7
Hauppauge win 12-7
Bay Shore win 12-5
Whitman is going to win most likely, I can't believe you would predict that score and Hills West is going to win
You have to realize how miserable people work, or a very jealous one . That score was posted to get a reaction from ww fans. They lost 3 one goal games and to SW 7-3, Of course WW will be blown out at home.
Now Here's my predictions
WM 10-8 WM has some Injuries, But still better
WI 11-6 SE Had a Horrible loss to NB- tough to bounce back
Hauppauge 7-5 - HE Is the worst team to watch with the stalling, and do not really think a solid 7 seed
WW Bayshore is a Overtime game waiting to happen, and absolute coin flip, going with home team 11-10
First round matchups:
4 Ward melville 13 Connetquot
5 West Islip 12 Sachem East
6 Hills West 11 Northport
7 Hills East 10 Hauppauge
8 Whitman 9 Bay Shore
Predictions:
Ward Melville win 9-7
West Islip win 11-5
Northport win 8-7
Hauppauge win 12-7
Bay Shore win 12-5
Whitman is going to win most likely, I can't believe you would predict that score and Hills West is going to win
Whitman/Bayshore look at some common playoff opponents or the last 5 games. Northport look at there last few games. If you are not from Whitman or West not sure what your thinking.
9 10 11 are just as strong if not stronger than 6 7 8.
Real question n is who has the most underclassman and we will e hearing about for a few years to come
What a great game played by Islip yesterday. Great coaching and great job by #6....hands down best kid on the field. What happened to Shoreham s power house team?
C'mon mom your embarrassing me
Whitman doesn't have enough top end talent. They are on OK team with a bunch of D3 kids who are good not great. Just look how many D1 kids they have?
Do they have any?
What a great game played by Islip yesterday. Great coaching and great job by #6....hands down best kid on the field. What happened to Shoreham s power house team?
C'mon mom your embarrassing me
No daddy mama ain't talking about your bench warming days
That’s an odd question. Do you mean how many Whitman kids will be on Div 1 teams next year or how many kids will play Div 1 next year or how many kids have the talent to be on/play at a Div 1 school? Kids pick schools for a lot of reasons; coaches recruit kids for a lot of reasons. Div 1 coaches recruit a lot of kids who never play. Early recruiting has changed the college landscape. Top D3 teams can surely compete if not outright beat many D1 teams. I know this is a lacrosse forum, but hopefully we have taught our kids that college lacrosse is fleeting while a college education and the college experience can be life changing.
Since there might be a valid or perceived difference in talent from a D1 and a D2 or D3 player, maybe the question is how many so-called Div 1 kids has Whitman played against and what did those games look like. (10-4 record; three 1 goal losses; one 3 goal loss)
That’s an odd question. Do you mean how many Whitman kids will be on Div 1 teams next year or how many kids will play Div 1 next year or how many kids have the talent to be on/play at a Div 1 school? Kids pick schools for a lot of reasons; coaches recruit kids for a lot of reasons. Div 1 coaches recruit a lot of kids who never play. Early recruiting has changed the college landscape. Top D3 teams can surely compete if not outright beat many D1 teams. I know this is a lacrosse forum, but hopefully we have taught our kids that college lacrosse is fleeting while a college education and the college experience can be life changing.
Since there might be a valid or perceived difference in talent from a D1 and a D2 or D3 player, maybe the question is how many so-called Div 1 kids has Whitman played against and what did those games look like. (10-4 record; three 1 goal losses; one 3 goal loss)
Great Post - Ww Plays the ultimate TEAM ball too
Yes, and WW has a very experienced coach.
Agreed, Great Post. Our guys will let the game do the talking.
WW has a midfielders that are very dynamic. They are also very different in their dodging styles. Bay shore is lead by their attack from what I know. Defense will be the difference.
playoffs on hold until scott craig gets his way? refs have an outcome on all close games. move on!
Did any one notice the Under Armour tryouts are during the week and the kids have school. Some have finals that week as well. What are they thinking. Nassau kids won't get there until 5pm if they show up and won't get home until 11pm.
Guess the team will be mostly Suffolk. Oh wait MC is involved so half the team is already picked.
Did any one notice the Under Armour tryouts are during the week and the kids have school. Some have finals that week as well. What are they thinking. Nassau kids won't get there until 5pm if they show up and won't get home until 11pm.
Guess the team will be mostly Suffolk. Oh wait MC is involved so half the team is already picked.
One nice thing about the tryouts were that there are alot of College Coaches there up and down the sidelines watching making the team is not everything
That’s an odd question. Do you mean how many Whitman kids will be on Div 1 teams next year or how many kids will play Div 1 next year or how many kids have the talent to be on/play at a Div 1 school? Kids pick schools for a lot of reasons; coaches recruit kids for a lot of reasons. Div 1 coaches recruit a lot of kids who never play. Early recruiting has changed the college landscape. Top D3 teams can surely compete if not outright beat many D1 teams. I know this is a lacrosse forum, but hopefully we have taught our kids that college lacrosse is fleeting while a college education and the college experience can be life changing.
Since there might be a valid or perceived difference in talent from a D1 and a D2 or D3 player, maybe the question is how many so-called Div 1 kids has Whitman played against and what did those games look like. (10-4 record; three 1 goal losses; one 3 goal loss)
Great Post - Ww Plays the ultimate TEAM ball too
Wow! A lot of WW daddys on here...
Did any one notice the Under Armour tryouts are during the week and the kids have school. Some have finals that week as well. What are they thinking. Nassau kids won't get there until 5pm if they show up and won't get home until 11pm.
Questionable scheduling for sure.
Does anyone have any insight as to what protest is being reviewed for the Section XI boys playoffs ? brackets on website state schedule rescinded, first round is now Mon the 19th
Section xi for the next few years... Please try and schedule girls game on one day and the boys on another. Why put them both on the same day?
how did SWR make out this year with new coach, you don't hear anything about them on this site.
Does anyone have any insight as to what protest is being reviewed for the Section XI boys playoffs ? brackets on website state schedule rescinded, first round is now Mon the 19th
Looks like a protest from West Islip.
Does anyone have any insight as to what protest is being reviewed for the Section XI boys playoffs ? brackets on website state schedule rescinded, first round is now Mon the 19th
Looks like a protest from West Islip.
So who gets the turf field at WI since they will both play Monday. or do they go at 4pm and 6pm
Suffolk section xi brackets back up. interesting to hear what the protest was about
no goal call was a judgement call not a rules interpretation so protest was denied and original match ups are set, except games are now Monday
how did SWR make out this year with new coach, you don't hear anything about them on this site.
Great season! All the parents seem to be happy with the changes.
ego maniac screws 9 other team. doucher
SWR has 80 pages of bitching on it's own thread. Pay attention!
Pretty intense things. I'd knock the coach out
ego maniac screws 9 other team. doucher
Par for the course for that west Islip contingent.....sachem east will be ready for them and the less than sports man like fans... Go east
Does anyone have any insight as to what protest is being reviewed for the Section XI boys playoffs ? brackets on website state schedule rescinded, first round is now Mon the 19th
Looks like a protest from West Islip.
So who gets the turf field at WI since they will both play Monday. or do they go at 4pm and 6pm
# 1 seed trumps 5 seed
Does anyone have any insight as to what protest is being reviewed for the Section XI boys playoffs ? brackets on website state schedule rescinded, first round is now Mon the 19th
Looks like a protest from West Islip.
So who gets the turf field at WI since they will both play Monday. or do they go at 4pm and 6pm
# 1 seed trumps 5 seed
So the boys play at 2:30 and the girls at 5pm.
The fogo from Sayville is hurt?
Heard Massepequa star player is out for season with a sprained ankle
Does anyone know if all county selections were made and where to see them.
Coaches meeting is tuesday i believe. Dinner is June 11th. There wont be a list posted anywhere before that maybe after dinner.
Well no one from Shoreham deserves anything. A bunch of cry babies. All they do is talk nonsense.
Does anyone know where you can find recent past listings of All County Selections for Nassau and Suffolk?
Good luck trying to find that list. You would think the countys would post all the allocades
Good luck trying to find that list. You would think the countys would post all the allocades
I have been trying to find them on line. You would think it is the secret formula for Coke or Pepsi it's that hard to find.
Suffolk County Lacrosse Coaches Association website hasn't been updated since 2010..
Does anyone have any insight as to what protest is being reviewed for the Section XI boys playoffs ? brackets on website state schedule rescinded, first round is now Mon the 19th
Looks like a protest from West Islip.
So who gets the turf field at WI since they will both play Monday. or do they go at 4pm and 6pm
# 1 seed trumps 5 seed
So the boys play at 2:30 and the girls at 5pm.
What was the boys crowd like for a 2:30 game and will the girls really start on time?
What was the score?
Wildcats 10-7 Over bayshore Shane Brennan 20 Saves- WOW
Watch Out SW
I haven't seen one game that wasn't poorly officiated this year
Northport and Whitman with great Victorys over their opponents. Morrissey contained Sheets, Wolff dominated on the faceoff X and both Brennan's did outstanding in the Whitman game. In the Northport game, Cannon dominated throughout the game and their defense was outstanding throughout all four quarters. Can't wait to watch these quarterfinal games
Who was it that said Suffolk A weak? Pleeeeeeeeease!!
How on earth does Kellenberg keep it to a 4 goal game vs. St Anthony's? Unless there is an unwritten thing where the St. Ant's coaches don't want to run it up and embarrass their friend Schwalje, this is a terrible sign for St. Anthony's going into the last Chaminade game.
Who was it that said Suffolk A weak? Pleeeeeeeeease!!
relax, a bunch of average teams played today and had a couple of good games while the big boys rested and are waiting for Wed. pump your chest when you beat one of the big three
How on earth does Kellenberg keep it to a 4 goal game vs. St Anthony's? Unless there is an unwritten thing where the St. Ant's coaches don't want to run it up and embarrass their friend Schwalje, this is a terrible sign for St. Anthony's going into the last Chaminade game.
Not to mention the visit to the woodshed in Darien.
How on earth does Kellenberg keep it to a 4 goal game vs. St Anthony's? Unless there is an unwritten thing where the St. Ant's coaches don't want to run it up and embarrass their friend Schwalje, this is a terrible sign for St. Anthony's going into the last Chaminade game.
How on earth? What a stupid question. Obvious answer; play hard. Save the conspiracy theory too.
The tide is turning. Expect more pressure from Kberg .
How on earth does Kellenberg keep it to a 4 goal game vs. St Anthony's? Unless there is an unwritten thing where the St. Ant's coaches don't want to run it up and embarrass their friend Schwalje, this is a terrible sign for St. Anthony's going into the last Chaminade game.
How on earth? What a stupid question. Obvious answer; play hard. Save the conspiracy theory too.
The tide is turning. Expect more pressure from Kberg .
There's a very warm place that will freeze over before "Kberg" ever beats the Friars or the Flyers.
First round matchups:
4 Ward melville 13 Connetquot
5 West Islip 12 Sachem East
6 Hills West 11 Northport
7 Hills East 10 Hauppauge
8 Whitman 9 Bay Shore
Predictions:
Ward Melville win 9-7
West Islip win 11-5
Northport win 8-7
Hauppauge win 12-7
Bay Shore win 12-5
NICE win WW 10-7 - You Were close though
Damm that d 3 Talent
How on earth does Kellenberg keep it to a 4 goal game vs. St Anthony's? Unless there is an unwritten thing where the St. Ant's coaches don't want to run it up and embarrass their friend Schwalje, this is a terrible sign for St. Anthony's going into the last Chaminade game.
How on earth? What a stupid question. Obvious answer; play hard. Save the conspiracy theory too.
The tide is turning. Expect more pressure from Kberg .
There's a very warm place that will freeze over before "Kberg" ever beats the Friars or the Flyers.
I would love to have your crystal ball, but keep the hubris.
WW was impressive throughout the lineup.. Was wrong about them. Hoping to see a good game with SW, but I think they have too much firepower and too strong of a defense.
How on earth does Kellenberg keep it to a 4 goal game vs. St Anthony's? Unless there is an unwritten thing where the St. Ant's coaches don't want to run it up and embarrass their friend Schwalje, this is a terrible sign for St. Anthony's going into the last Chaminade game.
How on earth? What a stupid question. Obvious answer; play hard. Save the conspiracy theory too.
The tide is turning. Expect more pressure from Kberg .
There's a very warm place that will freeze over before "Kberg" ever beats the Friars or the Flyers.
I would love to have your crystal ball, but keep the hubris.
Hubris earned over decades of excellence. Long way to go for the Johnny Come Lately's.
Does anyone know if all county selections were made and where to see them.
Released at end of season.
How on earth does Kellenberg keep it to a 4 goal game vs. St Anthony's? Unless there is an unwritten thing where the St. Ant's coaches don't want to run it up and embarrass their friend Schwalje, this is a terrible sign for St. Anthony's going into the last Chaminade game.
How on earth? What a stupid question. Obvious answer; play hard. Save the conspiracy theory too.
The tide is turning. Expect more pressure from Kberg .
There's a very warm place that will freeze over before "Kberg" ever beats the Friars or the Flyers.
I would love to have your crystal ball, but keep the hubris.
Hubris earned over decades of excellence. Long way to go for the Johnny Come Lately's.
If only certain things in the world remained static and outcomes were always predictable. Don't be so comfortable with the future. Times can and do change.
Northport boys are all back from injuries. Let's see how this goes tomorrow.
How on earth does Kellenberg keep it to a 4 goal game vs. St Anthony's? Unless there is an unwritten thing where the St. Ant's coaches don't want to run it up and embarrass their friend Schwalje, this is a terrible sign for St. Anthony's going into the last Chaminade game.
How on earth? What a stupid question. Obvious answer; play hard. Save the conspiracy theory too.
The tide is turning. Expect more pressure from Kberg .
There's a very warm place that will freeze over before "Kberg" ever beats the Friars or the Flyers.
I would love to have your crystal ball, but keep the hubris.
Hubris earned over decades of excellence. Long way to go for the Johnny Come Lately's.
If only certain things in the world remained static and outcomes were always predictable. Don't be so comfortable with the future. Times can and do change.
I think you Chaminade guys should worry about little public schools smacking you around.... By the way, how come Chaminade always ducks the MIAA teams? GC and the Friars didn't.
How on earth does Kellenberg keep it to a 4 goal game vs. St Anthony's? Unless there is an unwritten thing where the St. Ant's coaches don't want to run it up and embarrass their friend Schwalje, this is a terrible sign for St. Anthony's going into the last Chaminade game.
How on earth? What a stupid question. Obvious answer; play hard. Save the conspiracy theory too.
The tide is turning. Expect more pressure from Kberg .
There's a very warm place that will freeze over before "Kberg" ever beats the Friars or the Flyers.
I would love to have your crystal ball, but keep the hubris.
Hubris earned over decades of excellence. Long way to go for the Johnny Come Lately's.
If only certain things in the world remained static and outcomes were always predictable. Don't be so comfortable with the future. Times can and do change.
When Kberg beats the Flyers or Friars nobody will care because it'll be the last sign of the apocalypse.
Syosset 21-9 over Hicksville
They probably don't want to travel to Maryland and play against 19 and 20 yr olds who should be in College.
Smith town West has 3 all Americans. I'm sure the kids are outstanding but isn't it odd that majority of Long Island all Americans were from SW?
Smith town West has 3 all Americans. I'm sure the kids are outstanding but isn't it odd that majority of Long Island all Americans were from SW?
Yes odd, called politicing1 One deserving, other two questionable!
They probably don't want to travel to Maryland and play against 19 and 20 yr olds who should be in College.
Very true, very true!
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa...Long Island has an excuse for everything...to old, too young, injuries, politics...etc... Let your kid play and if he is good enough, he will play at the next level...or he can drive daddy's Mercedes to Ralley Motors for a wheel alignment
watching some of the MSG varsity highlights of the playoffs, I could not help but noticed that LI has some very small players.
Time to change that water you drink!!
They probably don't want to travel to Maryland and play against 19 and 20 yr olds who should be in College.
Very true, very true!
Lets turn this around. Why don't we ever see the Maryland schools come up to the Island to get a little taste of humble pie!
watching some of the MSG varsity highlights of the playoffs, I could not help but noticed that LI has some very small players.
Time to change that water you drink!!
everything is small on a 13 inch monitor!
watching some of the MSG varsity highlights of the playoffs, I could not help but noticed that LI has some very small players.
Time to change that water you drink!!
I'm sure Albany WAS thinking the same thing!
watching some of the MSG varsity highlights of the playoffs, I could not help but noticed that LI has some very small players.
Time to change that water you drink!!
Probably seems that way because you're used to watching high school highlights of 19 and 20 year-olds!
watching some of the MSG varsity highlights of the playoffs, I could not help but noticed that LI has some very small players.
Time to change that water you drink!!
Oh you must mean like, Chanenchuk, Cavanagh, Noble and Wolf? The stars and leaders of the teams still left in NCAA final four. All well under 5'10". Of course 2 of the four are from LI. One from St Ants and the other from Chaminade. I think the water is just fine... Now go console your 6'3" 20 year old HS senior. Hey wait, maybe if you now reclass sonny boy again and do a PG year, Tillman, Danowski, Tierney or Corrigan (all from Long Island) will finally call looking for your now 21 year old. Moron...
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa...Long Island has an excuse for everything...to old, too young, injuries, politics...etc... Let your kid play and if he is good enough, he will play at the next level...or he can drive daddy's Mercedes to Ralley Motors for a wheel alignment
Hate to tell you, but he has his own. BOOM.
NP loses by 7, what an awful year for them. 9 -9 with a bunch of D1 kids on the roster
SW beats whitman 15-5. SW was just far bigger and stronger and defensively dominate. WW didn't get many shots off.
You mean like Miles ?
watching some of the MSG varsity highlights of the playoffs, I could not help but noticed that LI has some very small players.
Time to change that water you drink!!
Oh you must mean like, Chanenchuk, Cavanagh, Noble and Wolf? The stars and leaders of the teams still left in NCAA final four. All well under 5'10". Of course 2 of the four are from LI. One from St Ants and the other from Chaminade. I think the water is just fine... Now go console your 6'3" 20 year old HS senior. Hey wait, maybe if you now reclass sonny boy again and do a PG year, Tillman, Danowski, Tierney or Corrigan (all from Long Island) will finally call looking for your now 21 year old. Moron...
NP loses by 7, what an awful year for them. 9 -9 with a bunch of D1 kids on the roster
In case you missed it that was a pretty good team they played
Goin start it the Rotanz to Ward Melville as head coach watch is on ....
Goin start it the Rotanz to Ward Melville as head coach watch is on ....
They need something...looked terrible yesterday!
NP loses by 7, what an awful year for them. 9 -9 with a bunch of D1 kids on the roster
In case you missed it that was a pretty good team they played
Northport coach is mediocre - that is the bottom line.
they were a team with way to many injuries at the end of the season from there best player to their upper class players who contributed all season . give it a rest and go bother another team .
oh as for the Rotanz comment have a set and post who you are instead of Stirring the pot with these comments . I forgot did you play on a High school sqaud or a college team that every year repeated and won it all every year . and was dominent every year. every program has great runs and great years , and has a rebuilding year. oh yea last year running clock on West Genny one of the other most storied programs in High school lacrosse . Give it up . again post who you are with your comments or go home or back under your rock.
WM lost a lot of players to injuries....it happens. they did not look good yestrday. Defense was solid. Offensive side needs help.
un athletic attackman, too small & slow for Suffolk Div 1, & the shooting was terrible. Changing coaches not the answer....players need to find a gym.
they were a team with way to many injuries at the end of the season from there best player to their upper class players who contributed all season . give it a rest and go bother another team .
It hurts uh......
Goin start it the Rotanz to Ward Melville as head coach watch is on ....
English please????!!!
WM lost a lot of players to injuries....it happens. they did not look good yestrday. Defense was solid. Offensive side needs help.
un athletic attackman, too small & slow for Suffolk Div 1, & the shooting was terrible. Changing coaches not the answer....players need to find a gym.
Too funny... you have to play with whoever is not injured and that was the coaches pick. Not sure gym can help.
where are the all county, state awards listed suffolk county ???
SE showed that SW is beatable! Go WI! I smell an upset brewing
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
70 points doesn't warrant your shutting up, you jealous person?
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
Sad and oh so true. Our town has some type of hierarchy in place that is disgusting and the AD is but a tool of the politricksters
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
70 points doesn't warrant your shutting up, you jealous person?
I sympathize with you. We have the same politics in our town but at least the dad does not coach the team. What does 70 points have to do with anything. As if the wrongs are made right bc of 70 points. It's time to get the politics out of hs sports . and a parent coach has no place on a hs team See the thread about summer conflicts
Contact Newsday would make a good Op Ed!!!
How many towns have parent coaches? Have a been living under a rock? I really never knew this Is the coach a hs teacher?
If the kids needs no push, why get involved this year daddy coach? Where were you the other years? hmmmmmmmm can't leave it to chance can you ?
HSW There were attack men who have D1 commitments who were moved to different positions so as not to out shine the coach's kid fact
WELCOME TO THE EVOLUTION OF LACROSSE , THIS IS NOT THE 80'S , TRAVEL BALL SUPERCEDES TOWN IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE GAME , LIKE IT OR NOT ! LOOK AT THE LONG LIST BETWEEN 91 AND EXPRESS ON COMMITMENTED PLAYERS , THEY CERTAINLY WERE NOT FROM TOWN PERFORMANCE AND ALSO REALIZE THAT MAJORITY OF THE TOWN PLAYERS DO BELONG TO AN UPPER TIER TRAVEL ORGANIZATION.
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
WELCOME TO THE EVOLUTION OF LACROSSE , THIS IS NOT THE 80'S , TRAVEL BALL SUPERCEDES TOWN IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE GAME , LIKE IT OR NOT ! LOOK AT THE LONG LIST BETWEEN 91 AND EXPRESS ON COMMITMENTED PLAYERS , THEY CERTAINLY WERE NOT FROM TOWN PERFORMANCE AND ALSO REALIZE THAT MAJORITY OF THE TOWN PLAYERS DO BELONG TO AN UPPER TIER TRAVEL ORGANIZATION.
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
Smithtown West all-americans not on travel teams!
congrats to Chaminade and Jack Moran (on his 500th win last night). We will get you next year - SA Alum
WELCOME TO THE EVOLUTION OF LACROSSE , THIS IS NOT THE 80'S , TRAVEL BALL SUPERCEDES TOWN IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE GAME , LIKE IT OR NOT ! LOOK AT THE LONG LIST BETWEEN 91 AND EXPRESS ON COMMITMENTED PLAYERS , THEY CERTAINLY WERE NOT FROM TOWN PERFORMANCE AND ALSO REALIZE THAT MAJORITY OF THE TOWN PLAYERS DO BELONG TO AN UPPER TIER TRAVEL ORGANIZATION.
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
Smithtown West all-americans not on travel teams!
I wish I had such an issue.
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
70 points doesn't warrant your shutting up, you jealous person?
I sympathize with you. We have the same politics in our town but at least the dad does not coach the team. What does 70 points have to do with anything. As if the wrongs are made right bc of 70 points. It's time to get the politics out of hs sports . and a parent coach has no place on a hs team See the thread about summer conflicts
I am not a fan of the man but
Are you serious? What does 70 points have to do with it!?! - EVERYTHING. That is a very good number. Are those with D1 commitments better than the supposed Daddy coach's son. How many points did those D1 commits get LY. What does politics have to do with it!?!... everything and that is life. I find it hard to believe those who lost their spot didn't politic for this. I also find it hard to believe those that didn't lose there spot did politics for things either. Life is politicking to better yourself.
of course opinion comes into play here, but come on you didn't see this coming.
All I can say is, that town team will be very strong if he continues to push those boys to 91.
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
70 points doesn't warrant your shutting up, you jealous person?
I sympathize with you. We have the same politics in our town but at least the dad does not coach the team. What does 70 points have to do with anything. As if the wrongs are made right bc of 70 points. It's time to get the politics out of hs sports . and a parent coach has no place on a hs team See the thread about summer conflicts
I am not a fan of the man but
Are you serious? What does 70 points have to do with it!?! - EVERYTHING. That is a very good number. Are those with D1 commitments better than the supposed Daddy coach's son. How many points did those D1 commits get LY. What does politics have to do with it!?!... everything and that is life. I find it hard to believe those who lost their spot didn't politic for this. I also find it hard to believe those that didn't lose there spot did politics for things either. Life is politicking to better yourself.
of course opinion comes into play here, but come on you didn't see this coming.
All I can say is, that town team will be very strong if he continues to push those boys to 91.
Re-read what you wrote and then ask yourself - is this a conflict of interest? How about teachers who say you must hire me as your tutor if you want an A in my class? Is that any different?
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
70 points doesn't warrant your shutting up, you jealous person?
I sympathize with you. We have the same politics in our town but at least the dad does not coach the team. What does 70 points have to do with anything. As if the wrongs are made right bc of 70 points. It's time to get the politics out of hs sports . and a parent coach has no place on a hs team See the thread about summer conflicts
I am not a fan of the man but
Are you serious? What does 70 points have to do with it!?! - EVERYTHING. That is a very good number. Are those with D1 commitments better than the supposed Daddy coach's son. How many points did those D1 commits get LY. What does politics have to do with it!?!... everything and that is life. I find it hard to believe those who lost their spot didn't politic for this. I also find it hard to believe those that didn't lose there spot did politics for things either. Life is politicking to better yourself.
of course opinion comes into play here, but come on you didn't see this coming.
All I can say is, that town team will be very strong if he continues to push those boys to 91.
Re-read what you wrote and then ask yourself - is this a conflict of interest? How about teachers who say you must hire me as your tutor if you want an A in my class? Is that any different?
Wait, is this Half Hollow Hills West you are talking about? They made the playoffs this year.
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
70 points doesn't warrant your shutting up, you jealous person?
I sympathize with you. We have the same politics in our town but at least the dad does not coach the team. What does 70 points have to do with anything. As if the wrongs are made right bc of 70 points. It's time to get the politics out of hs sports . and a parent coach has no place on a hs team See the thread about summer conflicts
I am not a fan of the man but
Are you serious? What does 70 points have to do with it!?! - EVERYTHING. That is a very good number. Are those with D1 commitments better than the supposed Daddy coach's son. How many points did those D1 commits get LY. What does politics have to do with it!?!... everything and that is life. I find it hard to believe those who lost their spot didn't politic for this. I also find it hard to believe those that didn't lose there spot did politics for things either. Life is politicking to better yourself.
of course opinion comes into play here, but come on you didn't see this coming.
All I can say is, that town team will be very strong if he continues to push those boys to 91.
Re-read what you wrote and then ask yourself - is this a conflict of interest? How about teachers who say you must hire me as your tutor if you want an A in my class? Is that any different?
Teacher, coach it does not matter. It is a conflict of interest and it should not be permitted. Teachers and coaches should not profit from their students or players especially at public schools.
Hills West has made the playoffs the last few years. They are a young team with many good players and D1 commits. The top kids have been the top kids since they started playing there and have come up big on "points" before this coach even stepped on the scene. I believe this is a complete case of a disgruntled parent who things didn't go the way he wanted for his son. HHH HSW has looked the best it ever has this year. I've seen them play and they dominated games this year. They have kids who can get the job done and they have kids who can put the ball in the cage like the stronger bigger programs. The coaches kid who this person speaks of is a good player in case anyone has not noticed! I think someone is jealous their little johnny didn't get 70 points .... move on already!!!
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
70 points doesn't warrant your shutting up, you jealous person?
I sympathize with you. We have the same politics in our town but at least the dad does not coach the team. What does 70 points have to do with anything. As if the wrongs are made right bc of 70 points. It's time to get the politics out of hs sports . and a parent coach has no place on a hs team See the thread about summer conflicts
I am not a fan of the man but
Are you serious? What does 70 points have to do with it!?! - EVERYTHING. That is a very good number. Are those with D1 commitments better than the supposed Daddy coach's son. How many points did those D1 commits get LY. What does politics have to do with it!?!... everything and that is life. I find it hard to believe those who lost their spot didn't politic for this. I also find it hard to believe those that didn't lose there spot did politics for things either. Life is politicking to better yourself.
of course opinion comes into play here, but come on you didn't see this coming.
All I can say is, that town team will be very strong if he continues to push those boys to 91.
Re-read what you wrote and then ask yourself - is this a conflict of interest? How about teachers who say you must hire me as your tutor if you want an A in my class? Is that any different?
As it may be a conflict of interest - but whose interest - the team in getting better. This daddy coach may have paved the way for his son to play. But this child didn't come out of no where. ??Did politics have those other players play last year or was it that there wasn't much competition. Just because you played last year and are a so called D1 commit doesn't mean someone behind you isn't better. What have you done for me lately.
To me if a player scored 70 points then maybe it wasn't the wrong choice. It stinks having those problems.
I do not have a dog in the fight but I think you would have to be blind not to see the potential conflict of interest. It is not about his boy who is obviously a player and would play with or without dad being a Dad/Coach. The conflict is when another player feels that he is not getting a fair shake because teammates pay a dad/coach to play on the summer team. it does not matter if that is or is not the case, it is a legitimate concern because of the CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
How on earth does Kellenberg keep it to a 4 goal game vs. St Anthony's? Unless there is an unwritten thing where the St. Ant's coaches don't want to run it up and embarrass their friend Schwalje, this is a terrible sign for St. Anthony's going into the last Chaminade game.
Not to mention the visit to the woodshed in Darien.
These were ominous signs for St Anthony's that easily predicted last night's thrashing at the hands of the Flyers.
Hills West has made the playoffs the last few years. They are a young team with many good players and D1 commits. The top kids have been the top kids since they started playing there and have come up big on "points" before this coach even stepped on the scene. I believe this is a complete case of a disgruntled parent who things didn't go the way he wanted for his son. HHH HSW has looked the best it ever has this year. I've seen them play and they dominated games this year. They have kids who can get the job done and they have kids who can put the ball in the cage like the stronger bigger programs. The coaches kid who this person speaks of is a good player in case anyone has not noticed! I think someone is jealous their little johnny didn't get 70 points .... move on already!!!
The kid is a good Player. The dad was there just to coach his son. If you watching during games every time ball went to other side of Midfield, Dad would be giving instructions to only one player(Guess who)- Just not a good situation, but again I will say the kids good.
I am a teacher and this is exactly the reason I would never tutor one of my students. It's a huge conflict of interest!
I saw a few of their games. I did not see that. Maybe you saw that or thought you saw that based on the kid. What I did see is in the bigger games the kid getting hacked away at and never losing possession of the ball and he did pass it off to the other attack to finish it off. The one attackman there was lights out. That kid was big and strong and could put a ball in the cage like no one I've seen in a long time from that program. If you go look at the record and the top scorers you will see that the daddys boy you speak of does not lead the HHH HSW team in goals someone else does and that is the kid I speak of above. The kid is a good all around player and most likely would have had just as an incredible year if his daddy wasnt there. So again, I believe this was a completely disgruntled problem parent who's little Johnny didnt have as good of a season. From what I saw and the stats I have seen in black and white .... not many goals put up by midfield on that team and the midfield with the exception of one kid was just ok. Couldnt get much done in bigger games and forget the defense middies ... they were just all around atrocious!! Im sure those are not committed D1 kids that are being spoken about here. Not all of HHH HSW plays for team 91 so that does not even hold up in this argument!
It is truly a conflict of interest and should not be allowed in hs. Let this daddy coach step down as it sounds like the kid will be fine. I know the name. Points closer to 60 but who's counting. Obv there are people on both sides of issue but no one can deny that a parent has no place in hs sports
In our town, we would NEVER want a pro coach coming around, with all of those amazing players in tow, scoring all kinds of crazy goals, and making huge plays. We would talk mad smack about the guy, and be hugely, insanely jealous of how mediocre our kids are in comparison to those that work hard all year long. That's just OUR way, where we are from. Rather than express our desire to be more fair regarding play time, in exchange for a good record, we would cast hate his way. We would allow our bitterness to show as envy, even if he was a genuinely nice guy.
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
The whole daddy coach thing confuses me. Is it that a person is a father is what makes him a bad choice? Could it be that if a person is unfairly appointed or selected, regardless of his unqualified nature, that this makes him a poor choice? What if somebody is truly mega qualified, and offers to help for free, as he may be a professional at high level? If this person happens to have a kid in the district, should the district pass him by? Many of you think so. I do not agree. I just see no effort to even thinly veil the jealous nature of the complaints. Come up with a better reason than asserting that a daddy coach is a bad thing. If a daddy coach puts his kid in a spot, and the freshman (oops) delivers what most seniors cannot, then why not concede that he did well? Oh, no, can't do that. It wasn't little Seymour.
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
70 points doesn't warrant your shutting up, you jealous person?
I sympathize with you. We have the same politics in our town but at least the dad does not coach the team. What does 70 points have to do with anything. As if the wrongs are made right bc of 70 points. It's time to get the politics out of hs sports . and a parent coach has no place on a hs team See the thread about summer conflicts
I am not a fan of the man but
Are you serious? What does 70 points have to do with it!?! - EVERYTHING. That is a very good number. Are those with D1 commitments better than the supposed Daddy coach's son. How many points did those D1 commits get LY. What does politics have to do with it!?!... everything and that is life. I find it hard to believe those who lost their spot didn't politic for this. I also find it hard to believe those that didn't lose there spot did politics for things either. Life is politicking to better yourself.
of course opinion comes into play here, but come on you didn't see this coming.
All I can say is, that town team will be very strong if he continues to push those boys to 91.
Re-read what you wrote and then ask yourself - is this a conflict of interest? How about teachers who say you must hire me as your tutor if you want an A in my class? Is that any different?
Or, rather than the teacher saying that you "MUST" hire me, they say, "You SHOULD hire me because I am far superior than the alternatives, as my track record has proven". In the case of the latter, it is a no brainer.
If the kids needs no push, why get involved this year daddy coach? Where were you the other years? hmmmmmmmm can't leave it to chance can you ?
I heard that he is completely uninvolved now, so I guess that we will see if the kid suddenly stops ripping it up.
WELCOME TO THE EVOLUTION OF LACROSSE , THIS IS NOT THE 80'S , TRAVEL BALL SUPERCEDES TOWN IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE GAME , LIKE IT OR NOT ! LOOK AT THE LONG LIST BETWEEN 91 AND EXPRESS ON COMMITMENTED PLAYERS , THEY CERTAINLY WERE NOT FROM TOWN PERFORMANCE AND ALSO REALIZE THAT MAJORITY OF THE TOWN PLAYERS DO BELONG TO AN UPPER TIER TRAVEL ORGANIZATION.
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
Smithtown West all-americans not on travel teams!
Smithtown west is an exception, just as there are a few others. Most school districts have not had the policy in place, where they restrict participation with outside travel clubs, for long enough to feel/ field the results. Most of us middle of the road towns applaud SWest, and the others, and even spectate at their games. Until our school commits to fielding fantastic coaching and year round training, my freshman will have to return coaches calls received through his travel coach.
The whole daddy coach thing confuses me. Is it that a person is a father is what makes him a bad choice? Could it be that if a person is unfairly appointed or selected, regardless of his unqualified nature, that this makes him a poor choice? What if somebody is truly mega qualified, and offers to help for free, as he may be a professional at high level? If this person happens to have a kid in the district, should the district pass him by? Many of you think so. I do not agree. I just see no effort to even thinly veil the jealous nature of the complaints. Come up with a better reason than asserting that a daddy coach is a bad thing. If a daddy coach puts his kid in a spot, and the freshman (oops) delivers what most seniors cannot, then why not concede that he did well? Oh, no, can't do that. It wasn't little Seymour.
as i understand it you are missing an important element - the dad/coach is also an owner of a pay for play summer team and that some people might feel that kids that pay to play on his team have an unfair advantage on the public high school team.
WELCOME TO THE EVOLUTION OF LACROSSE , THIS IS NOT THE 80'S , TRAVEL BALL SUPERCEDES TOWN IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE GAME , LIKE IT OR NOT ! LOOK AT THE LONG LIST BETWEEN 91 AND EXPRESS ON COMMITMENTED PLAYERS , THEY CERTAINLY WERE NOT FROM TOWN PERFORMANCE AND ALSO REALIZE THAT MAJORITY OF THE TOWN PLAYERS DO BELONG TO AN UPPER TIER TRAVEL ORGANIZATION.
What does everyone think about the situation that prevented HHH HSW from making the playoffs. The "head"coach who has been plagued by years of complaints against him to the school district AD yet continues on each year after verbal warnings then lets in a "DADDY COACH" to coach the team this season! What place does a daddy coach have, regardless of credentials, on a public hs team? That is the question of today. This coach only began when his son started playing on the team and the worst part is he advocates for and pushes ahead his money paying team 91 players (of which he is a part owner). It is like the St ANts/Cham Express problem all over again. Parents feel obligated to enroll their sons in team 91 due to the team 91 bias just as ST ants/cham kids knew they had to sign up for Express if they wanted to see a minute on the field. This season it was so flagrant that the daddy coach not only pushed his son ahead of other well deserving players but manipulated the entire line-up to his advantage and pushed the 91 ahead of other deserving players spots. The district even faced a well founded lawsuit over the actions of this daddy coach and his involvement in school lacrosse, starting in middle school when he followed his son there and pushed 91 players to early invitations to jv and varsity off season events. How is he on the sidelines again after the lawsuit. What are people's opinions on parent coaches in hs team. I do not think he is paid so that is not the issue? How do you weigh in on this topic? My son is an underclassman but the writing is on the wall and I was wondering how we go about changing it with an unresponsive AD
Sorry to hear your situation. Unfortunately you are not the only district and it is not only travel teams, but happens with summer teams run by high school coaches as well. Would love to learn more about the lawsuit and the conflict of interest between summer ball and school ball. You need to have a strong AD that has integrity and can address the issue when such a conflict exists. Most just turn a blind eye. It is sad that politicking has taken over all sports and no one has to earn their spot anymore on their own merit and not daddy or mommy's connections. I wish you luck but unfortunately it is an uphill battle you are climbing.
Smithtown West all-americans not on travel teams!
Smithtown west is an exception, just as there are a few others. Most school districts have not had the policy in place, where they restrict participation with outside travel clubs, for long enough to feel/ field the results. Most of us middle of the road towns applaud SWest, and the others, and even spectate at their games. Until our school commits to fielding fantastic coaching and year round training, my freshman will have to return coaches calls received through his travel coach.
What about East. They beat West in league play and are now off to Suffolk A Championship, yet people still just talk about West. Guess that will change now!
Mr Suffolk A weak,
What do you have to say for yourself now? If S West can't win a semifinal with 3 all Americans, something smells!
If the kids needs no push, why get involved this year daddy coach? Where were you the other years? hmmmmmmmm can't leave it to chance can you ?
I heard that he is completely uninvolved now, so I guess that we will see if the kid suddenly stops ripping it up.
Wait till #2 comes around. But he's already setting that grade up with 91
The whole daddy coach thing confuses me. Is it that a person is a father is what makes him a bad choice? Could it be that if a person is unfairly appointed or selected, regardless of his unqualified nature, that this makes him a poor choice? What if somebody is truly mega qualified, and offers to help for free, as he may be a professional at high level? If this person happens to have a kid in the district, should the district pass him by? Many of you think so. I do not agree. I just see no effort to even thinly veil the jealous nature of the complaints. Come up with a better reason than asserting that a daddy coach is a bad thing. If a daddy coach puts his kid in a spot, and the freshman (oops) delivers what most seniors cannot, then why not concede that he did well? Oh, no, can't do that. It wasn't little Seymour.
as i understand it you are missing an important element - the dad/coach is also an owner of a pay for play summer team and that some people might feel that kids that pay to play on his team have an unfair advantage on the public high school team.
Unfair because they are scary good
Mr Suffolk A weak,
What do you have to say for yourself now? If S West can't win a semifinal with 3 all Americans, something smells!
I think I just heard a certain ex SW coach/announcer Weeping and mumbling how does this happen, we have all these all Americans.
The whole daddy coach thing confuses me. Is it that a person is a father is what makes him a bad choice? Could it be that if a person is unfairly appointed or selected, regardless of his unqualified nature, that this makes him a poor choice? What if somebody is truly mega qualified, and offers to help for free, as he may be a professional at high level? If this person happens to have a kid in the district, should the district pass him by? Many of you think so. I do not agree. I just see no effort to even thinly veil the jealous nature of the complaints. Come up with a better reason than asserting that a daddy coach is a bad thing. If a daddy coach puts his kid in a spot, and the freshman (oops) delivers what most seniors cannot, then why not concede that he did well? Oh, no, can't do that. It wasn't little Seymour.
as i understand it you are missing an important element - the dad/coach is also an owner of a pay for play summer team and that some people might feel that kids that pay to play on his team have an unfair advantage on the public high school team.
I understand your point. "Some" people are ignorant.wxanba
Mr Suffolk A weak,
What do you have to say for yourself now? If S West can't win a semifinal with 3 all Americans, something smells!
Oh my gosh, you don't even try to hide your weird crazy napeleonic way! The discussion involved S West's kids at all-American status. You sound strangely unstable. You have done well, now back to the issue.....
If the kids needs no push, why get involved this year daddy coach? Where were you the other years? hmmmmmmmm can't leave it to chance can you ?
I heard that he is completely uninvolved now, so I guess that we will see if the kid suddenly stops ripping it up.
Wait till #2 comes around. But he's already setting that grade up with 91
If you choose, see it as a challenge, and have your dweeb (or boy) train harder, to be viable competition.
70 points has nothing to do with anything.
The starting line up at HHH HSW has TWO kids who play on team 91. One defense and one midfielder. There are more on the bench that never see the field unless they are in a situation to put in those kids. So "paying to play" on his team or not really doesnt matter here. The stud kids on that team play elsewhere. Maybe your kid works harder and gets himself on the field that way. Heres a concept that works .... the best kids play varsity and they play to win. Happens everywhere and on every high school team. Instead of being stoked that you have a professional with much knowledge of the game and how to win you want him out ... makes a lot of sense!! Leave the kid and the father alone. It wouldnt matter if he score 70 points or 7 points all season. Hes going to go off to a big program regardless of what happens with his high school career. The kid is a good player and theres not denying that. Hes not some scrub out there on the field not getting it done so stop being that disgruntled parent whos kid didnt stack up to the top kids on the team ... theres always next year to prove yourself or maybe your kid just isnt as good as you think he is.
Mr Suffolk A weak,
What do you have to say for yourself now? If S West can't win a semifinal with 3 all Americans, something smells!
Oh my gosh, you don't even try to hide your weird crazy napeleonic way! The discussion involved S West's kids at all-American status. You sound strangely unstable. You have done well, now back to the issue.....
Actually this was an answer to an earlier declaration about how "weak" Suffolk A was, [lacrosse]! Had nothing to do with Stowns unproductive all Americans! The post was meant to prove the point that teams such as Stown East and Sachem North, etc, are great competitive teams in Suffolk A, so easy there!
oh as for the Rotanz comment have a set and post who you are instead of Stirring the pot with these comments . I forgot did you play on a High school sqaud or a college team that every year repeated and won it all every year . and was dominent every year. every program has great runs and great years , and has a rebuilding year. oh yea last year running clock on West Genny one of the other most storied programs in High school lacrosse . Give it up . again post who you are with your comments or go home or back under your rock.
Good Job by WI today well coached and prepared with young and rebuilding year team.
How'd WI Shut Keenan down?
Did SN goalie Play, he's good and not in Newsday's Box score?
Smithtown west should be ashamed of themselves 5 coaches and double digit division 1 players and 3 under Armour all Americans. You can be the greatest practice coach and do great drills but year in and year these guy blows it in every big game. I lean to believe that Rotanz will be the coach there in the near future.
Gross display of coaching and an incredible job by West Islip.
Mr Suffolk A weak,
What do you have to say for yourself now? If S West can't win a semifinal with 3 all Americans, something smells!
Oh my gosh, you don't even try to hide your weird crazy napeleonic way! The discussion involved S West's kids at all-American status. You sound strangely unstable. You have done well, now back to the issue.....
Actually this was an answer to an earlier declaration about how "weak" Suffolk A was, [lacrosse]! Had nothing to do with Stowns unproductive all Americans! The post was meant to prove the point that teams such as Stown East and Sachem North, etc, are great competitive teams in Suffolk A, so easy there!
OK, calm easy going one. Your entry truly was just that, non confrontational and maturely rational. Whatever gets you through the day.
How'd WI Shut Keenan down?
With defense. shadowed him with a LSM named Prate, MSG Varsity announcer said he is going to NY Tech. Did a good job on him last time they played as well. What was with Newsday coverage ? No photos and small paragraph, but SE-SN game got whole page with photo. Guess the didn't consider possible upset.
i have mixed emotions regarding the wi/sw results. my son played with team li way back in 4th grade and l got to know some of the sw parents and players. total class act and GREAT kids. l feel they were a state champ team but wi had a better game plan. The idiot parents at sw who scream "he's got nothing" all game got just what they deserve: nothing. pa anouncer is knucklehead. someone beat massapequa
i have mixed emotions regarding the wi/sw results. my son played with team li way back in 4th grade and l got to know some of the sw parents and players. total class act and GREAT kids. l feel they were a state champ team but wi had a better game plan. The idiot parents at sw who scream "he's got nothing" all game got just what they deserve: nothing. pa anouncer is knucklehead. someone beat massapequa
In Nassau we say "someone beat Smithtown West" be careful what you wish for Syosset v. Smithtown East/Sachem North would be a good match up
i have mixed emotions regarding the wi/sw results. my son played with team li way back in 4th grade and l got to know some of the sw parents and players. total class act and GREAT kids. l feel they were a state champ team but wi had a better game plan. The idiot parents at sw who scream "he's got nothing" all game got just what they deserve: nothing. pa anouncer is knucklehead. someone beat massapequa
In Nassau we say "someone beat Smithtown West" be careful what you wish for Syosset v. Smithtown East/Sachem North would be a good match up
I don't think so. I was at game a few weeks back where Massapequa destroyed Syosset. Looked like they were playing their JV squad. It is playoffs now, so it should be closer but I don't think Pequa will have problem with the Braves. The problem with Massapequa is they played a weak schedule this spring. They haven't had tough games since Garden City and Chaminade which they lost both. Not their fault and they are very deep, but I think Suffolk A teams have the edge because of the completion every week.
i have mixed emotions regarding the wi/sw results. my son played with team li way back in 4th grade and l got to know some of the sw parents and players. total class act and GREAT kids. l feel they were a state champ team but wi had a better game plan. The idiot parents at sw who scream "he's got nothing" all game got just what they deserve: nothing. pa anouncer is knucklehead. someone beat massapequa
In Nassau we say "someone beat Smithtown West" be careful what you wish for Syosset v. Smithtown East/Sachem North would be a good match up
I don't think so. I was at game a few weeks back where Massapequa destroyed Syosset. Looked like they were playing their JV squad. It is playoffs now, so it should be closer but I don't think Pequa will have problem with the Braves. The problem with Massapequa is they played a weak schedule this spring. They haven't had tough games since Garden City and Chaminade which they lost both. Not their fault and they are very deep, but I think Suffolk A teams have the edge because of the completion every week.
Pequa "destroyed" Syp two years ago in the regular season and Syo beat them for the county championship. It .is never over till it over. Both teams have to show up and play. Hopefully it will be a good clean competitive game
The sleeping giant has awaking !
Yea coverage in Newsday strange since all season big full page photos of SW I- rumor is Newsday reporter family friend of keenan so prob. does not want to show player in less than stellar light. Game plan back fired!
Yea coverage in Newsday strange since all season big full page photos of SW I- rumor is Newsday reporter family friend of keenan so prob. does not want to show player in less than stellar light. Game plan back fired!
They put a bigger follow-up article in yesterday's paper. My issue is why they haven't published all-division and all-county awardees , just All-LI the last few years.
Yea coverage in Newsday strange since all season big full page photos of SW I- rumor is Newsday reporter family friend of keenan so prob. does not want to show player in less than stellar light. Game plan back fired!
On another note. For the New [lacrosse] vs Maryland crowd...two biggest offensive headliners today are Long Island bred and trained. MylesJones and Matt Kavanaugh.
Yea coverage in Newsday strange since all season big full page photos of SW I- rumor is Newsday reporter family friend of keenan so prob. does not want to show player in less than stellar light. Game plan back fired!
On another note. For the New [lacrosse] vs Maryland crowd...two biggest offensive headliners today are Long Island bred and trained. MylesJones and Matt Kavanaugh.
One a typical little Long Island kid and the other not so little, which makes it hard to believe he's from Long Island because Long Island kids are small. Haha
Yea coverage in Newsday strange since all season big full page photos of SW I- rumor is Newsday reporter family friend of keenan so prob. does not want to show player in less than stellar light. Game plan back fired!
On another note. For the New [lacrosse] vs Maryland crowd...two biggest offensive headliners today are Long Island bred and trained. MylesJones and Matt Kavanaugh.
One a typical little Long Island kid and the other not so little, which makes it hard to believe he's from Long Island because Long Island kids are small
Don't know about LI kids being "small". I think all areas have players in D1 college programs playing that are big and small. Im a proud LI lacrosse dad of a D1 player so our LI list is impressive of several players that we have heard their names on TV the past few weeks.
Kavanaugh (Chaminade Irish 5'9")
Zenker (Chaminade Duke 6'1")
Jones (Huntington, Duke 6'5")
Kohansky (St.Anthony's, Irish 6'4")
Fowler (Chaminade, Duke 5"11")
Raffa (St.Anthony's, Terps 6'0")
Chanenchuk (St.Anthony's, Terps 5'10")
LoCasio (St.Anthony's, Terps 5'10")
Massa (Huntington, Bryant, 5'11")
Crowley (Pt Washington, Hopkins 5'11")
Schreiber (St.Anthony's, Princeton 6'1")
Pellegrino (Hopkins, 5'8")
Enright (Massapequa, Hopkins 6'1")
Dansigleo (St.Anthony's, UVA 6'0")
You take a shot at our kids that they are small, but yet our LI kids DO IT BIG. Share your list.
HHH HSW This is simply a lie. The majority of kids on Varsity are or have been 91 players. The kid is a good player It wasnt 70 points btw more like 60 but its not about the kid Hes fine and would be fine without the dad. NOt a superstar maybe but he would play when his time came on his own. WHy then does the dad coach feel the need to be a part of every tryout or team his son does Bluechip 3d -- he's on sidelines Brine tryouts-- on sidelines. Sorry but he has a vested interest in those events and regardless of his background, it gives a bad impression to be elbow to elbow with the evaluators when your kid is on field and everyone trying to get a fair nod. He always looks out for 91 kids that are on his 2017 91 team He was never involved in coaching those events or this HHH HSW team until his kid was on bc he refuses to give control over his kids to anyone else. Why should a parent be allowed to inject himself into hs sports or college events when their kid is one of players? I agree with the original poster on this. I also agree that there is a better forum/ audience for this, at least for the hs problem. The other teams- well its lesson 101 in politicking If your kid is an underclassman like you say he is. Go and bring it to your AD attention.
i am so happy that i am not in your shoes. my son is a senior and i am done with all this. the outlaws never dicked us around like the situation that team 91 is putting you in. good luck.
You mean like Miles ?
watching some of the MSG varsity highlights of the playoffs, I could not help but noticed that LI has some very small players.
Time to change that water you drink!!
Oh you must mean like, Chanenchuk, Cavanagh, Noble and Wolf? The stars and leaders of the teams still left in NCAA final four. All well under 5'10". Of course 2 of the four are from LI. One from St Ants and the other from Chaminade. I think the water is just fine... Now go console your 6'3" 20 year old HS senior. Hey wait, maybe if you now reclass sonny boy again and do a PG year, Tillman, Danowski, Tierney or Corrigan (all from Long Island) will finally call looking for your now 21 year old. Moron...
The post about Long Island players being small is a tongue in cheek response to the MD poster who said a few pages ago that Long Island players were small and that it was time to change what's in the Long Island water. I would make the bet any day that Long Island had 2x more "impact" players among the final 4 that MD, despite that lack of size ha, ha. Myles must have been born in MD and then moved to Long Island but never sipped water. On a more serious note - anybody know which summer club Myles played for while he was at Walt Whitman? Express, 91, fl$?
i am so happy that i am not in your shoes. my son is a senior and i am done with all this. the outlaws never dicked us around like the situation that team 91 is putting you in. good luck.
Really? because I think one Brennan kid is coaching while two are on the WW team! And...they did really well this year also! I do understand where there can be a conflict of interest but, both of these teams have done really well this year. Give me a daddy/brother coach that can coach this well on our HS team anyday! Sorry, it just sounds like sour grapes here!
On a more serious note - anybody know which summer club Myles played for while he was at Walt Whitman? Express, 91, fl$?
A quick Google search yields this.
http://forums.insidelacrosse.com/showthread.php?135279-Who-is-Myles-Jones
Boy... I love being right- especially about Smithtown West and anyone who seems to be haters of the historically "ELITE" LI Teams...
My Comment from back in the end of March has now been proven insightful.
From March 27th on this board I wrote:
"To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue
that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful
group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are
only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in
the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent
and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have
them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will
continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to
do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!"
Those comments now seem amazingly Prescient, I know, but I wrote them out of respect for the coaches like Scott Craig, Jack Moran, Keith Wieczorek, Steve Finnell, & Bill Cherry who always seem to get the job done on a consistent basis.
I especially like being right about Scot Craig having his team back. That is why Chaminade always plays WI. They are an ELITE program with great coaching. They'll have a another great year next year.
The Smithtown guy who wanted to say that WI wasn't elite needed a reality check.
Smithtown West = season over
WI ... still playing.
All joking aside... the ELITE teams earn their respect year in and year out, while the flash in the pan teams scream and cry for their respect in early season games.
For my next prediction .... Pequa (who hasn't lost since March) will beat SYO and roll the Suffolk team in the LI champs.
Also has a good chance of taking the state.
Thank me very much (again, joking).
watching some of the MSG varsity highlights of the playoffs, I could not help but noticed that LI has some very small players.
Time to change that water you drink!!
Oh you must mean like, Chanenchuk, Cavanagh, Noble and Wolf? The stars and leaders of the teams still left in NCAA final four. All well under 5'10". Of course 2 of the four are from LI. One from St Ants and the other from Chaminade. I think the water is just fine... Now go console your 6'3" 20 year old HS senior. Hey wait, maybe if you now reclass sonny boy again and do a PG year, Tillman, Danowski, Tierney or Corrigan (all from Long Island) will finally call looking for your now 21 year old. Moron...
As a PROUD Long Island lacrosse supporter, I LOVE this post!! Said perfectly.
watching some of the MSG varsity highlights of the playoffs, I could not help but noticed that LI has some very small players.
Time to change that water you drink!!
Oh you must mean like, Chanenchuk, Cavanagh, Noble and Wolf? The stars and leaders of the teams still left in NCAA final four. All well under 5'10". Of course 2 of the four are from LI. One from St Ants and the other from Chaminade. I think the water is just fine... Now go console your 6'3" 20 year old HS senior. Hey wait, maybe if you now reclass sonny boy again and do a PG year, Tillman, Danowski, Tierney or Corrigan (all from Long Island) will finally call looking for your now 21 year old. Moron...
As a PROUD Long Island lacrosse supporter, I LOVE this post!! Said perfectly.
Loved the quote too.
I'd like to add to that by saying that many big boys from MD were home watching these small LI kids on their big screens.
Should also mention that Zenker and Jones were some of the bigger guys on the field too.
No sour grapes here. MB could not have done better!
No sour grapes here. MB could not have done better!
Boy... I love being right- especially about Smithtown West and anyone who seems to be haters of the historically "ELITE" LI Teams...
My Comment from back in the end of March has now been proven insightful.
From March 27th on this board I wrote:
"To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue
that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful
group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are
only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in
the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent
and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have
them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will
continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to
do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!"
Those comments now seem amazingly Prescient, I know, but I wrote them out of respect for the coaches like Scott Craig, Jack Moran, Keith Wieczorek, Steve Finnell, & Bill Cherry who always seem to get the job done on a consistent basis.
I especially like being right about Scot Craig having his team back. That is why Chaminade always plays WI. They are an ELITE program with great coaching. They'll have a another great year next year.
The Smithtown guy who wanted to say that WI wasn't elite needed a reality check.
Smithtown West = season over
WI ... still playing.
All joking aside... the ELITE teams earn their respect year in and year out, while the flash in the pan teams scream and cry for their respect in early season games.
For my next prediction .... Pequa (who hasn't lost since March) will beat SYO and roll the Suffolk team in the LI champs.
Also has a good chance of taking the state.
Thank me very much (again, joking).
Ha ha, Smithtown W
they never respect anyone
Boy... I love being right- especially about Smithtown West and anyone who seems to be haters of the historically "ELITE" LI Teams...
My Comment from back in the end of March has now been proven insightful.
From March 27th on this board I wrote:
"To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue
that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful
group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are
only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in
the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent
and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have
them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will
continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to
do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!"
Those comments now seem amazingly Prescient, I know, but I wrote them out of respect for the coaches like Scott Craig, Jack Moran, Keith Wieczorek, Steve Finnell, & Bill Cherry who always seem to get the job done on a consistent basis.
I especially like being right about Scot Craig having his team back. That is why Chaminade always plays WI. They are an ELITE program with great coaching. They'll have a another great year next year.
The Smithtown guy who wanted to say that WI wasn't elite needed a reality check.
Smithtown West = season over
WI ... still playing.
All joking aside... the ELITE teams earn their respect year in and year out, while the flash in the pan teams scream and cry for their respect in early season games.
For my next prediction .... Pequa (who hasn't lost since March) will beat SYO and roll the Suffolk team in the LI champs.
Also has a good chance of taking the state.
Thank me very much (again, joking).
Ha ha, Smithtown W
they never respect anyone
Go Smithtown west. We all know that was your game.
Congrats to the Suffolk Class B Champs - Rocky Point.
congrats to RP on winning title today vs long time rival MP 6-4
You grown men sound like kids heckling each other over 16/17 yr old kids . What are you going to do with yourselves in a few years when it's over ?
Whose crying now
[quote=Anonymous]Boy... I love being right- especially about Smithtown West and anyone who seems to be haters of the historically "ELITE" LI Teams...
My Comment from back in the end of March has now been proven insightful.
From March 27th on this board I wrote:
"To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue
that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful
group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are
only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in
the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent
and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have
them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will
continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to
do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!"
Those comments now seem amazingly Prescient, I know, but I wrote them out of respect for the coaches like Scott Craig, Jack Moran, Keith Wieczorek, Steve Finnell, & Bill Cherry who always seem to get the job done on a consistent basis.
I especially like being right about Scot Craig having his team back. That is why Chaminade always plays WI. They are an ELITE program with great coaching. They'll have a another great year next year.
The Smithtown guy who wanted to say that WI wasn't elite needed a reality check.
Smithtown West = season over
WI ... still playing.
All joking aside... the ELITE teams earn their respect year in and year out, while the flash in the pan teams scream and cry for their respect in early season games.
For my next prediction .... Pequa (who hasn't lost since March) will beat SYO and roll the Suffolk team in the LI champs.
Also has a good chance of taking the state.
Thank me very much (again, joking).
Ha ha, Smithtown W
they never respect anyone
Go Smithtown west. We all know that was your game. [/quot
Got any Kool aid to sell?
Congrats to the Suffolk Class B Champs - Rocky Point.
Go Eagles! Nice to see the next generation of the Reh family lax legacy continue on.
Whose crying now
[quote=Anonymous]Boy... I love being right- especially about Smithtown West and anyone who seems to be haters of the historically "ELITE" LI Teams...
My Comment from back in the end of March has now been proven insightful.
From March 27th on this board I wrote:
"To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue
that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful
group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are
only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in
the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent
and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have
them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will
continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to
do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!"
Those comments now seem amazingly Prescient, I know, but I wrote them out of respect for the coaches like Scott Craig, Jack Moran, Keith Wieczorek, Steve Finnell, & Bill Cherry who always seem to get the job done on a consistent basis.
I especially like being right about Scot Craig having his team back. That is why Chaminade always plays WI. They are an ELITE program with great coaching. They'll have a another great year next year.
The Smithtown guy who wanted to say that WI wasn't elite needed a reality check.
Smithtown West = season over
WI ... still playing.
All joking aside... the ELITE teams earn their respect year in and year out, while the flash in the pan teams scream and cry for their respect in early season games.
For my next prediction .... Pequa (who hasn't lost since March) will beat SYO and roll the Suffolk team in the LI champs.
Also has a good chance of taking the state.
Thank me very much (again, joking).
Ha ha, Smithtown W
they never respect anyone
Go Smithtown west. We all know that was your game. [/quot
Got any Kool aid to sell?
Lynbrook vs Rocky Point. Good matchup
Boy... I love being right- especially about Smithtown West and anyone who seems to be haters of the historically "ELITE" LI Teams...
My Comment from back in the end of March has now been proven insightful.
From March 27th on this board I wrote:
"To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue
that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful
group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are
only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in
the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent
and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have
them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will
continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to
do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!"
Those comments now seem amazingly Prescient, I know, but I wrote them out of respect for the coaches like Scott Craig, Jack Moran, Keith Wieczorek, Steve Finnell, & Bill Cherry who always seem to get the job done on a consistent basis.
I especially like being right about Scot Craig having his team back. That is why Chaminade always plays WI. They are an ELITE program with great coaching. They'll have a another great year next year.
The Smithtown guy who wanted to say that WI wasn't elite needed a reality check.
Smithtown West = season over
WI ... still playing.
All joking aside... the ELITE teams earn their respect year in and year out, while the flash in the pan teams scream and cry for their respect in early season games.
For my next prediction .... Pequa (who hasn't lost since March) will beat SYO and roll the Suffolk team in the LI champs.
Also has a good chance of taking the state.
Thank me very much (again, joking).
Biggest asinine rant yet! LI Lax has changed if you haven't noticed. Suffolk A is anyone's game now. The "tradition" teams are done! And, good riddance.
EAST is BEAST!! (for now!)
Great talent+Teamwork+Respect=WIN!!
So far Nassau County is 2 for 2 in Long Island Championship Games. How is the 3rd game going.
So far Nassau County is 2 for 2 in Long Island Championship Games. How is the 3rd game going.
Both by one goal with an opportunity to tie up in final seconds.
Guess both counties are evenly matched.
Great lax today, good luck to the winners moving on.
Last game goes easily to Suffolk.
Boy... I love being right- especially about Smithtown West and anyone who seems to be haters of the historically "ELITE" LI Teams...
My Comment from back in the end of March has now been proven insightful.
From March 27th on this board I wrote:
"To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue
that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful
group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are
only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in
the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent
and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have
them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will
continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to
do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!"
Those comments now seem amazingly Prescient, I know, but I wrote them out of respect for the coaches like Scott Craig, Jack Moran, Keith Wieczorek, Steve Finnell, & Bill Cherry who always seem to get the job done on a consistent basis.
I especially like being right about Scot Craig having his team back. That is why Chaminade always plays WI. They are an ELITE program with great coaching. They'll have a another great year next year.
The Smithtown guy who wanted to say that WI wasn't elite needed a reality check.
Smithtown West = season over
WI ... still playing.
All joking aside... the ELITE teams earn their respect year in and year out, while the flash in the pan teams scream and cry for their respect in early season games.
For my next prediction .... Pequa (who hasn't lost since March) will beat SYO and roll the Suffolk team in the LI champs.
Also has a good chance of taking the state.
Thank me very much (again, joking).
Biggest asinine rant yet! LI Lax has changed if you haven't noticed. Suffolk A is anyone's game now. The "tradition" teams are done! And, good riddance.
EAST is BEAST!! (for now!)
Great talent+Teamwork+Respect=WIN!!
Why do some people just have problems when reality and truth smacks them in the face?
My comments (or rant) simply and clearly the stated reasons some teams are not yet considered ELITE.
I backed those comments with undisputable facts. In no way was any team disparaged nor were any group of boys slighted? Only the fans felt that way.
In fact, quite the contrary. I lauded several teams having good seasons....but they are clearly not ELITE. Facts back that up.
Fans can hope for their teams to do well; but a nice season does not make a team elite. especially a season where a team (or several) came up admittedly short of their preseason (and fan) expectations.
Sorry about this, but there are no Suffolk teams besides those listed above that are poised to even sniffing ELITE. For the Suffolk teams, that won't change for many many years. Why?...because WM & WI have been so good for so long. Assuming that those two teams will never ever have a successful year again is pure folly. So they will likely remain elite and it means another season that other teams will have to wait.
In Nassau, Massapequa is having another great season. They are top 10 in the country. They beat a nice team in STownEast for the Island championship.
So, the chiefs could be welcomed to a seat at the ELITE table very soon.
The Stowns and Nports...just not ready yet.
Boy... I love being right- especially about Smithtown West and anyone who seems to be haters of the historically "ELITE" LI Teams...
My Comment from back in the end of March has now been proven insightful.
From March 27th on this board I wrote:
"To the guy who seems to feels slighted and wants to argue
that West Islip is not an ELITE Program....
First the definition- ELITE: the most successful or powerful
group of people.
Now the facts: Since the new millennium (13 yrs), there are
only 19 teams in the entire country that FINNISHED ranked in
the top 50 in the nation 10 times or more .
Six of those teams are from Long Island.
Four of those teams are Public Schools.
Garden City 11 times in the top 50 (out of 13)
Manhasset 10 times
Ward Melville 10 times
West Islip 11 times
The other two:
Chaminade 12 times
St. Anthony's 10 times
That is the only ELITE group on Long Island!
One or two sub par seasons doesn't take away from the recent
and Long Term success of Coach Craig's Squad. He'll have
them back.
Other teams have had some very good seasons, and others will
continue to improve; but they still have some catching up to
do to join that list. Don't let the facts get in the way of
your fantasy.
Now, as one of the other guys said - go get your shine box.
Thank me very much!"
Those comments now seem amazingly Prescient, I know, but I wrote them out of respect for the coaches like Scott Craig, Jack Moran, Keith Wieczorek, Steve Finnell, & Bill Cherry who always seem to get the job done on a consistent basis.
I especially like being right about Scot Craig having his team back. That is why Chaminade always plays WI. They are an ELITE program with great coaching. They'll have a another great year next year.
The Smithtown guy who wanted to say that WI wasn't elite needed a reality check.
Smithtown West = season over
WI ... still playing.
All joking aside... the ELITE teams earn their respect year in and year out, while the flash in the pan teams scream and cry for their respect in early season games.
For my next prediction .... Pequa (who hasn't lost since March) will beat SYO and roll the Suffolk team in the LI champs.
Also has a good chance of taking the state.
Thank me very much (again, joking).
Biggest asinine rant yet! LI Lax has changed if you haven't noticed. Suffolk A is anyone's game now. The "tradition" teams are done! And, good riddance.
EAST is BEAST!! (for now!)
Great talent+Teamwork+Respect=WIN!!
Why do some people just have problems when reality and truth smacks them in the face?
My comments (or rant) simply and clearly the stated reasons some teams are not yet considered ELITE.
I backed those comments with undisputable facts. In no way was any team disparaged nor were any group of boys slighted? Only the fans felt that way.
In fact, quite the contrary. I lauded several teams having good seasons....but they are clearly not ELITE. Facts back that up.
Fans can hope for their teams to do well; but a nice season does not make a team elite. especially a season where a team (or several) came up admittedly short of their preseason (and fan) expectations.
Sorry about this, but there are no Suffolk teams besides those listed above that are poised to even sniffing ELITE. For the Suffolk teams, that won't change for many many years. Why?...because WM & WI have been so good for so long. Assuming that those two teams will never ever have a successful year again is pure folly. So they will likely remain elite and it means another season that other teams will have to wait.
In Nassau, Massapequa is having another great season. They are top 10 in the country. They beat a nice team in STownEast for the Island championship.
So, the chiefs could be welcomed to a seat at the ELITE table very soon.
The Stowns and Nports...just not ready yet.
Dear Mr. President of LI Elite,
The only one of your so-called elite teams that even had a sniff of a championship this year lost badly in the county finals.
One day you will wake up and see that there is no elite anymore, it's any towns game! (well maybe not any, but several that will play hard every year, and some surprises)
Oh, and who was "rolled" in the LI championship? Great to see new teams earning that honor. Not one of your "elite". Guess your secret club is now defunct.
This shift is the best thing that ever happened to LI lax!
I saw that Smithtown East team yesterday and came away very impressed. They will be a force for the next three years at least with all the freshman on that team, 3-4 of which got a lot of playing time this year . I counted 9 freshman and 4 sophomores on the roster they handed out at the LIC. I can see them making a few title runs (county,LI, and state) in the next few years. Massapequa loses a bunch of talent, but returns a nice group of juniors and sophs. Could see a re-match next year. Finally, Smithtown West can not be put in the elite category in my opinion. All that talent the last 5-6 years and no hardware. Very good teams, but didn't get it done when it counted.
big difference between elite teams and historically elite programs - right now there are 3 elite teams on LI (Mass - Lynbrook and Babylon) - WM and WI are elite programs but were not elite teams this year
big difference between elite teams and historically elite programs - right now there are 3 elite teams on LI (Mass - Lynbrook and Babylon) - WM and WI are elite programs but were not elite teams this year
You make a very good point by distinguishing Programs from a team each year.
Well done.... but 1 year does not make a team elite.
There needs to be some consistency, don't you think?
For example, the Lynbrook team had a fantastic year. they have some very good players too. But wouldn't you agree that some of their success this year came (in part) because GC and Manhassett had less than expected years?
big difference between elite teams and historically elite programs - right now there are 3 elite teams on LI (Mass - Lynbrook and Babylon) - WM and WI are elite programs but were not elite teams this year
You make a very good point by distinguishing Programs from a team each year.
Well done.... but 1 year does not make a team elite.
There needs to be some consistency, don't you think?
For example, the Lynbrook team had a fantastic year. they have some very good players too. But wouldn't you agree that some of their success this year came (in part) because GC and Manhassett had less than expected years?
Since when does Elite mean Dynasty?
Elite means... the Best of the Best. Dynasty means the best of the best throughout the years!!!
What am I missing. If my son and his friends are the best at their grade for the years growing up - who cares what the boys 2 or 3+ years ahead of them did or didn't do.
big difference between elite teams and historically elite programs - right now there are 3 elite teams on LI (Mass - Lynbrook and Babylon) - WM and WI are elite programs but were not elite teams this year
You make a very good point by distinguishing Programs from a team each year.
Well done.... but 1 year does not make a team elite.
There needs to be some consistency, don't you think?
For example, the Lynbrook team had a fantastic year. they have some very good players too. But wouldn't you agree that some of their success this year came (in part) because GC and Manhassett had less than expected years?
Elite - adjective
representing the most choice or select; best:
this season Lynbrook was "Elite" or the best -
and of course one teams success would be a direct correlation to other teams ability, (see Alydar and Affirmed) if not for Affirmed, Alydar would be considered one of the greatest race horses of all time, as it is he was not the best race house that year
West Islip - Garden City - Manhasset have fielded consistently elite teams over the last 20 years but not this year
Must read article for all HS lacrosse fan's - Kid plays lacrosse with one good arm and one paralyzed arm for Wm Floyd -
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...turns-adversity-into-advantage-1.8272046William Floyd senior Wesley Sullivan turns adversity into advantage
Originally published: May 30, 2014 10:27 AM
Updated: May 31, 2014 12:41 PM
By BOB HERZOG bob.herzog@newsday.com
Wesley Sullivan, a senior at William Floyd High
Wesley Sullivan, a senior at William Floyd High School in Mastic Beach, plays on the lacrosse team -- and also plays piano and bass guitar -- despite having Erb’s Palsy, a condition that has rendered his left arm virtually useless. He's seen at the school on Wednesday, May 21, 2014. (Credit: Newsday / Thomas A. Ferrara)
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He can charm you with his upbeat personality and the force of his will.
"I'm the type of person to try and prove someone wrong," said Sullivan, 18, who has lived his life doing just that, as the list of naysayers who frequently have been skeptical of his athletic and musical goals is as long as his good right arm.
Sullivan -- a one-armed guitar-, piano- and lacrosse-playing senior at William Floyd High School in Mastic Beach -- was born with Erb's Palsy, a condition often caused by injury during birth to the nerves surrounding the shoulder that results in weakness or paralysis of the arm. The severity of the impairment varies. In Sullivan's case, his shrunken left arm and hand hang weak and virtually useless from his rugged frame. But in his world, it's a nonissue.
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'I'm definitely stronger'
Sullivan was declared academically ineligible to play as a junior for failing a class.
"It's not that he was a poor student," said his coach, Desmond Megna. "He's a good student. He failed because of attendance. He was kind of displaced after the family lost their house in Sandy. It was a disaster. Lacrosse was pretty important to him and he couldn't play. That, on top of losing your house and not knowing where you're going to live from day to day, was a lot to handle for a kid. It was a tough time. He thought about quitting the sport. He talked about transferring."
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"I'm definitely stronger for what happened with Sandy," he said before a late-season game. (The family has returned to a different home in Mastic Beach.) "I used to get bent out of shape; call the coach, ready to cry. But I've learned to look at things in a positive way. If I don't, I'm going to be miserable. Whether it's my house, a game that we lose, my arm. If I don't think positive, I'll be negative, and that won't improve anything. Mentally, I've had to get over things. OK, I've got one arm: Deal with it."
On the lacrosse field, Sullivan has dealt with his disability by overcompensating.
"I made sure I got faster and that my right arm was stronger so I could push people away," he said. "When I get hit on the left arm, it hurts a little more because it's smaller and there's no muscle there. So I always lead with my right side. My left hand is on the bottom of the stick, and if it gets checked off, I'll use the elbow."
That resourcefulness has allowed him to play so well that often opponents and referees don't realize Sullivan is essentially a one-armed athlete. The level playing field applies at home, too.
"There is no pampering of Wesley," said his mother, Michelline. "None of us ever did it and we won't start. That's the way it's been for him since he was a baby. I have three other children. He's the third-youngest and he used to try to play that card. I'd tell him to pick up his toys. He'd say, 'Oh, I've got one arm.' I'd say, 'Take two trips.' He's mentally tough because I'm mentally tough. I told him, 'If you can handle me, you can handle the world.' "
Music and lacrosse
Wesley's world includes his considerable musical talents. He plays piano and bass guitar, which he can do by using a strap and playing a "righty guitar upside down, like Jimi Hendrix, with the [larger] E-string on top.
"People say I'm a jack-of-all trades," he said. "I don't read music. I play by ear."
He and some friends formed an indie-alternative group called Vanilla Coast that has played at the Manhattan nightclub Webster Hall and wants to perform next year at the popular South by Southwest Festival in Austin, Texas.
Music and lacrosse will follow Sullivan to Briarcliffe, where he is determined to pursue both. "One of my life's goals is to show kids with disabilities like me that they can do anything they want to," he said. "Any sport, any feat."
That helps explain the decision Sullivan made a couple of years ago when doctors told him about an intense surgery involving the spine that could possibly give him use of his left arm. He declined the offer.
"If I didn't have my condition, I wouldn't have the drive to do what I do," Sullivan said. "I wouldn't be Wesley if I didn't have only one arm."
big difference between elite teams and historically elite programs - right now there are 3 elite teams on LI (Mass - Lynbrook and Babylon) - WM and WI are elite programs but were not elite teams this year
You make a very good point by distinguishing Programs from a team each year.
Well done.... but 1 year does not make a team elite.
There needs to be some consistency, don't you think?
For example, the Lynbrook team had a fantastic year. they have some very good players too. But wouldn't you agree that some of their success this year came (in part) because GC and Manhassett had less than expected years?
Elite - adjective
representing the most choice or select; best:
this season Lynbrook was "Elite" or the best -
and of course one teams success would be a direct correlation to other teams ability, (see Alydar and Affirmed) if not for Affirmed, Alydar would be considered one of the greatest race horses of all time, as it is he was not the best race house that year
West Islip - Garden City - Manhasset have fielded consistently elite teams over the last 20 years but not this year
This is ridiculous. Lynbrook won because they were better than the teams they played this year. Celebrate that effort instead of sulking about someone having an off year. Boo hoo. sw8bm8
big difference between elite teams and historically elite programs - right now there are 3 elite teams on LI (Mass - Lynbrook and Babylon) - WM and WI are elite programs but were not elite teams this year
You make a very good point by distinguishing Programs from a team each year.
Well done.... but 1 year does not make a team elite.
There needs to be some consistency, don't you think?
For example, the Lynbrook team had a fantastic year. they have some very good players too. But wouldn't you agree that some of their success this year came (in part) because GC and Manhassett had less than expected years?
Elite - adjective
representing the most choice or select; best:
this season Lynbrook was "Elite" or the best -
and of course one teams success would be a direct correlation to other teams ability, (see Alydar and Affirmed) if not for Affirmed, Alydar would be considered one of the greatest race horses of all time, as it is he was not the best race house that year
West Islip - Garden City - Manhasset have fielded consistently elite teams over the last 20 years but not this year
Agreed they are talking about a Dynasty and using that as a term for Elite. They are two different words.
Dynasty (noun) - which describe a fact. Powerful group who maintains their position!
big difference between elite teams and historically elite programs - right now there are 3 elite teams on LI (Mass - Lynbrook and Babylon) - WM and WI are elite programs but were not elite teams this year
You make a very good point by distinguishing Programs from a team each year.
Well done.... but 1 year does not make a team elite.
There needs to be some consistency, don't you think?
For example, the Lynbrook team had a fantastic year. they have some very good players too. But wouldn't you agree that some of their success this year came (in part) because GC and Manhassett had less than expected years?
Elite - adjective
representing the most choice or select; best:
this season Lynbrook was "Elite" or the best -
and of course one teams success would be a direct correlation to other teams ability, (see Alydar and Affirmed) if not for Affirmed, Alydar would be considered one of the greatest race horses of all time, as it is he was not the best race house that year
West Islip - Garden City - Manhasset have fielded consistently elite teams over the last 20 years but not this year
Agreed they are talking about a Dynasty and using that as a term for Elite. They are two different words.
Dynasty (noun) - which describe a fact. Powerful group who maintains their position!
Finally someones got it right. The age of the Lax Dynasty=Over
Not one representing this year
Good riddance, it is now anyone and everyone's game!
big difference between elite teams and historically elite programs - right now there are 3 elite teams on LI (Mass - Lynbrook and Babylon) - WM and WI are elite programs but were not elite teams this year
You make a very good point by distinguishing Programs from a team each year.
Well done.... but 1 year does not make a team elite.
There needs to be some consistency, don't you think?
For example, the Lynbrook team had a fantastic year. they have some very good players too. But wouldn't you agree that some of their success this year came (in part) because GC and Manhassett had less than expected years?
Elite - adjective
representing the most choice or select; best:
this season Lynbrook was "Elite" or the best -
and of course one teams success would be a direct correlation to other teams ability, (see Alydar and Affirmed) if not for Affirmed, Alydar would be considered one of the greatest race horses of all time, as it is he was not the best race house that year
West Islip - Garden City - Manhasset have fielded consistently elite teams over the last 20 years but not this year
Agreed they are talking about a Dynasty and using that as a term for Elite. They are two different words.
Dynasty (noun) - which describe a fact. Powerful group who maintains their position!
Finally someones got it right. The age of the Lax Dynasty=Over
Not one representing this year
Good riddance, it is now anyone and everyone's game!
Anyone's and Everyone's game-okay then I'm predicting Brentwood vs. Freeport in next year's Class A L.I.C.
big difference between elite teams and historically elite programs - right now there are 3 elite teams on LI (Mass - Lynbrook and Babylon) - WM and WI are elite programs but were not elite teams this year
You make a very good point by distinguishing Programs from a team each year.
Well done.... but 1 year does not make a team elite.
There needs to be some consistency, don't you think?
For example, the Lynbrook team had a fantastic year. they have some very good players too. But wouldn't you agree that some of their success this year came (in part) because GC and Manhassett had less than expected years?
Elite - adjective
representing the most choice or select; best:
this season Lynbrook was "Elite" or the best -
and of course one teams success would be a direct correlation to other teams ability, (see Alydar and Affirmed) if not for Affirmed, Alydar would be considered one of the greatest race horses of all time, as it is he was not the best race house that year
West Islip - Garden City - Manhasset have fielded consistently elite teams over the last 20 years but not this year
Agreed they are talking about a Dynasty and using that as a term for Elite. They are two different words.
Dynasty (noun) - which describe a fact. Powerful group who maintains their position!
Finally someones got it right. The age of the Lax Dynasty=Over
Not one representing this year
Good riddance, it is now anyone and everyone's game!
Interesting thought. The clubs are now training and developing good athletes from all over the island, which has at least neutralized the coaching and training advantage once held exclusively in towns like Manhasset. Programs like Manhasset are also fraying at the edges from the drain of Chaminade, which has a cumulative effect when two or three probable starters leave every year. Very difficult to constantly fill all of those holes year after year.
big difference between elite teams and historically elite programs - right now there are 3 elite teams on LI (Mass - Lynbrook and Babylon) - WM and WI are elite programs but were not elite teams this year
You make a very good point by distinguishing Programs from a team each year.
Well done.... but 1 year does not make a team elite.
There needs to be some consistency, don't you think?
For example, the Lynbrook team had a fantastic year. they have some very good players too. But wouldn't you agree that some of their success this year came (in part) because GC and Manhassett had less than expected years?
Elite - adjective
representing the most choice or select; best:
this season Lynbrook was "Elite" or the best -
and of course one teams success would be a direct correlation to other teams ability, (see Alydar and Affirmed) if not for Affirmed, Alydar would be considered one of the greatest race horses of all time, as it is he was not the best race house that year
West Islip - Garden City - Manhasset have fielded consistently elite teams over the last 20 years but not this year
Agreed they are talking about a Dynasty and using that as a term for Elite. They are two different words.
Dynasty (noun) - which describe a fact. Powerful group who maintains their position!
Finally someones got it right. The age of the Lax Dynasty=Over
Not one representing this year
Good riddance, it is now anyone and everyone's game!
Interesting thought. The clubs are now training and developing good athletes from all over the island, which has at least neutralized the coaching and training advantage once held exclusively in towns like Manhasset. Programs like Manhasset are also fraying at the edges from the drain of Chaminade, which has a cumulative effect when two or three probable starters leave every year. Very difficult to constantly fill all of those holes year after year.
Yes that is interesting, but not totally correct.
Manhasset is trying to keep their players home. This year they were significantly under represented (relative to prior years) on the Chaminade Freshman team, which means that the good kids are staying put.
GC is Trying to do the same...even though they do loose some each year.
If anyone believes that the Dynastic Elite teams of the past 15 or 20 years don't have a better chances than the rest in getting back on top (despite a lackluster 2014), then I'd like to know why and how.
Realistically, in this sport at the HS level, Coaching matters. Cherry, Finnell, Weiszoreck, Moran, Craig - These guys are hall of famers and will get their team going. I like their chances.
Whatever program makes Rotanz their next head will also go to the net level of elite.
Stop it!
GC and Manhasset were both beat by Lynbrook. So much for the "Dynasty" As for Rotanz, he did nothing for Smithtown West, in fact their rival across town loaded with Freshman and Sophomores got damn close to winning it all without having a so called elite program/coach.
Dynasties are DONE! You do know what happened to the dinosaurs?
GC NEVER PLAYED LYNBROOK...LYNBROOK BEAT MANHASSET TWICE
Another know it all on lax....get over self idiot. Dynasties!
GC NEVER PLAYED LYNBROOK...LYNBROOK BEAT MANHASSET TWICE
Manhasset beat GC, fair to assume Lynbrook beats GC.
GC NEVER PLAYED LYNBROOK...LYNBROOK BEAT MANHASSET TWICE
Manhasset beat GC, fair to assume Lynbrook beats GC.
Never assume. Thats why you play the games. Teams match up differently.
How do you say Finell HOF. He has a lot more work to do before that ever happens. With the feeder system in GC a half decent lacrosse guy could win. Plus the divisonal teams he plays he will always be in contention. Look at the goals scored against good teams. Manhasset game was a joke. NO GOALS FOR 2.5 QUARTERS FROM A SO CALLED HOF COACH. These next 3 years will determine if he is a good coach because after next year big drop off of talent and size. The other guys on the list have more than paid their dues.
GC NEVER PLAYED LYNBROOK...LYNBROOK BEAT MANHASSET TWICE
Manhasset beat GC, fair to assume Lynbrook beats GC.
Never assume. Thats why you play the games. Teams match up differently.
GC was not good this year, mediocre at best, Lynbrook great. No contest there! Sorry
So by that way of "reasoning", since GC beat St. Paul's of MD, does that mean GC would have beaten Boys Latin?? It's all how the teams play on any given day. GCs D kept them in the games, but they still won with a very competitive schedule. Don't think Lynbrook saw anything close.
Right, GC = mediocre
And they will never be good enough to win again.
OK check please
Let's play a game... What names strike the feeling of fear in the hearts of upstate teams like Yorktown, West Genny, Niskayuna, Janesville Dewitt?
My guess is that the Smithtowns, Northports, Lynbrooks , etc don't come to mind.
They think of the WM, WI, GC, Manhasset, teams. But from now on, according to Mr.Smithtown ... They will never be a factor again.
WOW
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Yes that is interesting, but not totally correct.
Manhasset is trying to keep their players home. This year they were significantly under represented (relative to prior years) on the Chaminade Freshman team, which means that the good kids are staying put.
GC is Trying to do the same...even though they do loose some each year.
If anyone believes that the Dynastic Elite teams of the past 15 or 20 years don't have a better chances than the rest in getting back on top (despite a lackluster 2014), then I'd like to know why and how.
Realistically, in this sport at the HS level, Coaching matters. Cherry, Finnell, Weiszoreck, Moran, Craig - These guys are hall of famers and will get their team going. I like their chances.
Whatever program makes Rotanz their next head will also go to the net level of elite.
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This is a comical statement. Like lacrosse is the only reason a family would want to send their boy to Chaminade. Not to bash Manhasset but how on earth does Manhasset try to "keep" kids from going to Chaminade. The decision to go to Chaminade goes WAY beyond lacrosse. There is simply nothing that can be said to "keep" a kid at Manhasset if their family sees a better overall value proposition at Chaminade. And many do. If you know differently or have even anecdotal evidence of this "strategy" by Manhasset, please give us some insights as to how that hypothetical conversation would go and between which representatives of Manhasset. We'd all like a good laugh.
Yes that is interesting, but not totally correct.
Manhasset is trying to keep their players home. This year they were significantly under represented (relative to prior years) on the Chaminade Freshman team, which means that the good kids are staying put.
GC is Trying to do the same...even though they do loose some each year.
If anyone believes that the Dynastic Elite teams of the past 15 or 20 years don't have a better chances than the rest in getting back on top (despite a lackluster 2014), then I'd like to know why and how.
Realistically, in this sport at the HS level, Coaching matters. Cherry, Finnell, Weiszoreck, Moran, Craig - These guys are hall of famers and will get their team going. I like their chances.
Whatever program makes Rotanz their next head will also go to the net level of elite.
[/quote]
This is a comical statement. Like lacrosse is the only reason a family would want to send their boy to Chaminade. Not to bash Manhasset but how on earth does Manhasset try to "keep" kids from going to Chaminade. The decision to go to Chaminade goes WAY beyond lacrosse. There is simply nothing that can be said to "keep" a kid at Manhasset if their family sees a better overall value proposition at Chaminade. And many do. If you know differently or have even anecdotal evidence of this "strategy" by Manhasset, please give us some insights as to how that hypothetical conversation would go and between which representatives of Manhasset. We'd all like a good laugh. [/quote]
Not trying to be comical. Just making an observation backed by fact.
It all starts with the town programs creating the summer club teams and select programs run by the Town HS coaches. At 6th grade the coaches are marking their territory.
I would agree for mos kids that go to Chaminade or St. A,s , the choice is driven by more than lacrosse. But for som talented kids on the fence, lax can be the reason to stay home. For example, not being able to play on a town select or committed team any more once the player goes to Cham or Sta is a factor.
Being called up to varsity in middle school is pretty attractive don't you think.
Also, the opportunity to play varsity at the home HS as a freshman is a factor (if not an explicit promise) . That opportunity is unlikely for 9th graders at Cham or StA. Beware the back room deals being made before freshman year.
A four year varsity player from a traditionally powerhouse program looks pretty good to college recruiters too. So do the phone calls from elite hs coaches to various colleges about their very own 4 yr players.
Open your eyes! It happens.
Enough comedy for you?
Right, GC = mediocre
And they will never be good enough to win again.
OK check please
Let's play a game... What names strike the feeling of fear in the hearts of upstate teams like Yorktown, West Genny, Niskayuna, Janesville Dewitt?
My guess is that the Smithtowns, Northports, Lynbrooks , etc don't come to mind.
They think of the WM, WI, GC, Manhasset, teams. But from now on, according to Mr.Smithtown ... They will never be a factor again.
WOW
GC mediocre this year, another poster suggested this trend will continue.
Nobody scared of Manhasset! Beat 2x by Lynbrook, so I know who I wouldn't want to play
Don't think any of the upstate teams were too scared of WI or Melville this year. They were very scared of the Stowns, next year East will be ranked #1 in Suffolk with a great shot at a state title, and yes teams will be scared, but it's up to them to work hard and not get caught up in all the hype like West did this year. As for the others, like I said, anyone's game....who wants it?!?
Right, GC = mediocre
And they will never be good enough to win again.
OK check please
Let's play a game... What names strike the feeling of fear in the hearts of upstate teams like Yorktown, West Genny, Niskayuna, Janesville Dewitt?
My guess is that the Smithtowns, Northports, Lynbrooks , etc don't come to mind.
They think of the WM, WI, GC, Manhasset, teams. But from now on, according to Mr.Smithtown ... They will never be a factor again.
WOW
GC mediocre this year, another poster suggested this trend will continue.
Nobody scared of Manhasset! Beat 2x by Lynbrook, so I know who I wouldn't want to play
Don't think any of the upstate teams were too scared of WI or Melville this year. They were very scared of the Stowns, next year East will be ranked #1 in Suffolk with a great shot at a state title, and yes teams will be scared, but it's up to them to work hard and not get caught up in all the hype like West did this year. As for the others, like I said, anyone's game....who wants it?!?
Right, Smithtown #1
And the reason that Yorktown drives right past Both Smithtowns and Northport on their way to play WM is because they are afraid.
It could not have any thing to do with the fact that they want to challenge the by playing the best programs and best talent.
Yes that is interesting, but not totally correct.
Manhasset is trying to keep their players home. This year they were significantly under represented (relative to prior years) on the Chaminade Freshman team, which means that the good kids are staying put.
GC is Trying to do the same...even though they do loose some each year.
If anyone believes that the Dynastic Elite teams of the past 15 or 20 years don't have a better chances than the rest in getting back on top (despite a lackluster 2014), then I'd like to know why and how.
Realistically, in this sport at the HS level, Coaching matters. Cherry, Finnell, Weiszoreck, Moran, Craig - These guys are hall of famers and will get their team going. I like their chances.
Whatever program makes Rotanz their next head will also go to the net level of elite.
This is a comical statement. Like lacrosse is the only reason a family would want to send their boy to Chaminade. Not to bash Manhasset but how on earth does Manhasset try to "keep" kids from going to Chaminade. The decision to go to Chaminade goes WAY beyond lacrosse. There is simply nothing that can be said to "keep" a kid at Manhasset if their family sees a better overall value proposition at Chaminade. And many do. If you know differently or have even anecdotal evidence of this "strategy" by Manhasset, please give us some insights as to how that hypothetical conversation would go and between which representatives of Manhasset. We'd all like a good laugh. [/quote]
Not trying to be comical. Just making an observation backed by fact.
It all starts with the town programs creating the summer club teams and select programs run by the Town HS coaches. At 6th grade the coaches are marking their territory.
I would agree for mos kids that go to Chaminade or St. A,s , the choice is driven by more than lacrosse. But for som talented kids on the fence, lax can be the reason to stay home. For example, not being able to play on a town select or committed team any more once the player goes to Cham or Sta is a factor.
Being called up to varsity in middle school is pretty attractive don't you think.
Also, the opportunity to play varsity at the home HS as a freshman is a factor (if not an explicit promise) . That opportunity is unlikely for 9th graders at Cham or StA. Beware the back room deals being made before freshman year.
A four year varsity player from a traditionally powerhouse program looks pretty good to college recruiters too. So do the phone calls from elite hs coaches to various colleges about their very own 4 yr players.
Open your eyes! It happens.
Enough comedy for you? [/quote]
Any promises (explicit or implicit) made by a high school coach to an 8th grader in order to keep a kid from going to Chaminade is a very slippery slope. What that means is a kid taking a roster spot or field time away from an equally or more talented upper classman. It is probably the worst thing a coach can do to ruin the chemistry of the locker room not to mention the competitiveness of his team. A whiz kid, hot shot 9th grader may be Mr. Wonderful against kids his own grade or maybe even a year above but it doesn't work so well against more athletic and talented Juniors and Seniors. See where the teams are that gave key roles to 9th graders this year. They destroyed the morale on the team and disheartened the upperclassmen. You got what you asked for. Enjoy watching the rest of the playoffs on msgvarsity.com.
Yes that is interesting, but not totally correct.
Manhasset is trying to keep their players home. This year they were significantly under represented (relative to prior years) on the Chaminade Freshman team, which means that the good kids are staying put.
GC is Trying to do the same...even though they do loose some each year.
If anyone believes that the Dynastic Elite teams of the past 15 or 20 years don't have a better chances than the rest in getting back on top (despite a lackluster 2014), then I'd like to know why and how.
Realistically, in this sport at the HS level, Coaching matters. Cherry, Finnell, Weiszoreck, Moran, Craig - These guys are hall of famers and will get their team going. I like their chances.
Whatever program makes Rotanz their next head will also go to the net level of elite.
This is a comical statement. Like lacrosse is the only reason a family would want to send their boy to Chaminade. Not to bash Manhasset but how on earth does Manhasset try to "keep" kids from going to Chaminade. The decision to go to Chaminade goes WAY beyond lacrosse. There is simply nothing that can be said to "keep" a kid at Manhasset if their family sees a better overall value proposition at Chaminade. And many do. If you know differently or have even anecdotal evidence of this "strategy" by Manhasset, please give us some insights as to how that hypothetical conversation would go and between which representatives of Manhasset. We'd all like a good laugh.
Not trying to be comical. Just making an observation backed by fact.
It all starts with the town programs creating the summer club teams and select programs run by the Town HS coaches. At 6th grade the coaches are marking their territory.
I would agree for mos kids that go to Chaminade or St. A,s , the choice is driven by more than lacrosse. But for som talented kids on the fence, lax can be the reason to stay home. For example, not being able to play on a town select or committed team any more once the player goes to Cham or Sta is a factor.
Being called up to varsity in middle school is pretty attractive don't you think.
Also, the opportunity to play varsity at the home HS as a freshman is a factor (if not an explicit promise) . That opportunity is unlikely for 9th graders at Cham or StA. Beware the back room deals being made before freshman year.
A four year varsity player from a traditionally powerhouse program looks pretty good to college recruiters too. So do the phone calls from elite hs coaches to various colleges about their very own 4 yr players.
Open your eyes! It happens.
Enough comedy for you? [/quote]
Any promises (explicit or implicit) made by a high school coach to an 8th grader in order to keep a kid from going to Chaminade is a very slippery slope. What that means is a kid taking a roster spot or field time away from an equally or more talented upper classman. It is probably the worst thing a coach can do to ruin the chemistry of the locker room not to mention the competitiveness of his team. A whiz kid, hot shot 9th grader may be Mr. Wonderful against kids his own grade or maybe even a year above but it doesn't work so well against more athletic and talented Juniors and Seniors. See where the teams are that gave key roles to 9th graders this year. They destroyed the morale on the team and disheartened the upperclassmen. You got what you asked for. Enjoy watching the rest of the playoffs on msgvarsity.com. [/quote]
This issue is also why Chaminade will change and begin moving kids up sooner. Takes away any advantage that a "home team" would have that promises a quicker path to varsity. Watch, sooner than you think.
Right, GC = mediocre
And they will never be good enough to win again.
OK check please
Let's play a game... What names strike the feeling of fear in the hearts of upstate teams like Yorktown, West Genny, Niskayuna, Janesville Dewitt?
My guess is that the Smithtowns, Northports, Lynbrooks , etc don't come to mind.
They think of the WM, WI, GC, Manhasset, teams. But from now on, according to Mr.Smithtown ... They will never be a factor again.
WOW
GC mediocre this year, another poster suggested this trend will continue.
Nobody scared of Manhasset! Beat 2x by Lynbrook, so I know who I wouldn't want to play
Don't think any of the upstate teams were too scared of WI or Melville this year. They were very scared of the Stowns, next year East will be ranked #1 in Suffolk with a great shot at a state title, and yes teams will be scared, but it's up to them to work hard and not get caught up in all the hype like West did this year. As for the others, like I said, anyone's game....who wants it?!?
Right, Smithtown #1
And the reason that Yorktown drives right past Both Smithtowns and Northport on their way to play WM is because they are afraid.
It could not have any thing to do with the fact that they want to challenge the by playing the best programs and best talent.
Nobody driving past the Smithtowns to play WM this year! Check the record, that's the only proof you need! Sorry if the truth hurts.
Theres a lot to weigh out. Manh is not exactly a bad school. Is Chammy more prestigious ? Sure. But if you factor in price and the fact that your home HS can put you on a equally good path to college you have to think about it. I knew kids who would have been good enough to play on their HS teams who went to Chaminade and put their sticks down because they knew theyd never see the field
Yes that is interesting, but not totally correct.
Manhasset is trying to keep their players home. This year they were significantly under represented (relative to prior years) on the Chaminade Freshman team, which means that the good kids are staying put.
GC is Trying to do the same...even though they do loose some each year.
If anyone believes that the Dynastic Elite teams of the past 15 or 20 years don't have a better chances than the rest in getting back on top (despite a lackluster 2014), then I'd like to know why and how.
Realistically, in this sport at the HS level, Coaching matters. Cherry, Finnell, Weiszoreck, Moran, Craig - These guys are hall of famers and will get their team going. I like their chances.
Whatever program makes Rotanz their next head will also go to the net level of elite.
This is a comical statement. Like lacrosse is the only reason a family would want to send their boy to Chaminade. Not to bash Manhasset but how on earth does Manhasset try to "keep" kids from going to Chaminade. The decision to go to Chaminade goes WAY beyond lacrosse. There is simply nothing that can be said to "keep" a kid at Manhasset if their family sees a better overall value proposition at Chaminade. And many do. If you know differently or have even anecdotal evidence of this "strategy" by Manhasset, please give us some insights as to how that hypothetical conversation would go and between which representatives of Manhasset. We'd all like a good laugh.
Not trying to be comical. Just making an observation backed by fact.
It all starts with the town programs creating the summer club teams and select programs run by the Town HS coaches. At 6th grade the coaches are marking their territory.
I would agree for mos kids that go to Chaminade or St. A,s , the choice is driven by more than lacrosse. But for som talented kids on the fence, lax can be the reason to stay home. For example, not being able to play on a town select or committed team any more once the player goes to Cham or Sta is a factor.
Being called up to varsity in middle school is pretty attractive don't you think.
Also, the opportunity to play varsity at the home HS as a freshman is a factor (if not an explicit promise) . That opportunity is unlikely for 9th graders at Cham or StA. Beware the back room deals being made before freshman year.
A four year varsity player from a traditionally powerhouse program looks pretty good to college recruiters too. So do the phone calls from elite hs coaches to various colleges about their very own 4 yr players.
Open your eyes! It happens.
Enough comedy for you?
Any promises (explicit or implicit) made by a high school coach to an 8th grader in order to keep a kid from going to Chaminade is a very slippery slope. What that means is a kid taking a roster spot or field time away from an equally or more talented upper classman. It is probably the worst thing a coach can do to ruin the chemistry of the locker room not to mention the competitiveness of his team. A whiz kid, hot shot 9th grader may be Mr. Wonderful against kids his own grade or maybe even a year above but it doesn't work so well against more athletic and talented Juniors and Seniors. See where the teams are that gave key roles to 9th graders this year. They destroyed the morale on the team and disheartened the upperclassmen. You got what you asked for. Enjoy watching the rest of the playoffs on msgvarsity.com. [/quote]
This issue is also why Chaminade will change and begin moving kids up sooner. Takes away any advantage that a "home team" would have that promises a quicker path to varsity. Watch, sooner than you think. [/quote]
Theres a lot to weigh out. Manh is not exactly a bad school. Is Chammy more prestigious ? Sure. But if you factor in price and the fact that your home HS can put you on a equally good path to college you have to think about it. I knew kids who would have been good enough to play on their HS teams who went to Chaminade and put their sticks down because they knew theyd never see the field
Yes that is interesting, but not totally correct.
Manhasset is trying to keep their players home. This year they were significantly under represented (relative to prior years) on the Chaminade Freshman team, which means that the good kids are staying put.
GC is Trying to do the same...even though they do loose some each year.
If anyone believes that the Dynastic Elite teams of the past 15 or 20 years don't have a better chances than the rest in getting back on top (despite a lackluster 2014), then I'd like to know why and how.
Realistically, in this sport at the HS level, Coaching matters. Cherry, Finnell, Weiszoreck, Moran, Craig - These guys are hall of famers and will get their team going. I like their chances.
Whatever program makes Rotanz their next head will also go to the net level of elite.
This is a comical statement. Like lacrosse is the only reason a family would want to send their boy to Chaminade. Not to bash Manhasset but how on earth does Manhasset try to "keep" kids from going to Chaminade. The decision to go to Chaminade goes WAY beyond lacrosse. There is simply nothing that can be said to "keep" a kid at Manhasset if their family sees a better overall value proposition at Chaminade. And many do. If you know differently or have even anecdotal evidence of this "strategy" by Manhasset, please give us some insights as to how that hypothetical conversation would go and between which representatives of Manhasset. We'd all like a good laugh.
Not trying to be comical. Just making an observation backed by fact.
It all starts with the town programs creating the summer club teams and select programs run by the Town HS coaches. At 6th grade the coaches are marking their territory.
I would agree for mos kids that go to Chaminade or St. A,s , the choice is driven by more than lacrosse. But for som talented kids on the fence, lax can be the reason to stay home. For example, not being able to play on a town select or committed team any more once the player goes to Cham or Sta is a factor.
Being called up to varsity in middle school is pretty attractive don't you think.
Also, the opportunity to play varsity at the home HS as a freshman is a factor (if not an explicit promise) . That opportunity is unlikely for 9th graders at Cham or StA. Beware the back room deals being made before freshman year.
A four year varsity player from a traditionally powerhouse program looks pretty good to college recruiters too. So do the phone calls from elite hs coaches to various colleges about their very own 4 yr players.
Open your eyes! It happens.
Enough comedy for you?
Any promises (explicit or implicit) made by a high school coach to an 8th grader in order to keep a kid from going to Chaminade is a very slippery slope. What that means is a kid taking a roster spot or field time away from an equally or more talented upper classman. It is probably the worst thing a coach can do to ruin the chemistry of the locker room not to mention the competitiveness of his team. A whiz kid, hot shot 9th grader may be Mr. Wonderful against kids his own grade or maybe even a year above but it doesn't work so well against more athletic and talented Juniors and Seniors. See where the teams are that gave key roles to 9th graders this year. They destroyed the morale on the team and disheartened the upperclassmen. You got what you asked for. Enjoy watching the rest of the playoffs on msgvarsity.com.
This issue is also why Chaminade will change and begin moving kids up sooner. Takes away any advantage that a "home team" would have that promises a quicker path to varsity. Watch, sooner than you think. [/quote]
Wait until next year, it'll get even worse. Some Seniors who think they are finally going to get some playing time will be blindsided by some up and coming Sophs who are excellent, but only in their own grade. At the end of the day it will mean another early playoff exit because these future stars really were rushed into the spotlight and weren't ready for Broadway. More and more it'll be about "we're young this year, so wait till next year". And then the year after, and year after that...
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
I think everyone is missing the point. I know it's hard to understand for many of you who are short sighted but the reasons that kids go to Chaminade are very long term considerations, lacrosse is a very short term consideration and maybe 10th down on the list. It's really not a factor for whether a kid stays at his town school or not.
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
If all it takes is a promise to play varsity lax sooner rather than later, then that 8th grader was never cut out to be a Chaminade student in the first place. Better to stay home and wallow in mediocrity.
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
If all it takes is a promise to play varsity lax sooner rather than later, then that 8th grader was never cut out to be a Chaminade student in the first place. Better to stay home and wallow in mediocrity.
Most idiotic comment yet! Keep trying to buy Jrs success while we take advantage of the plethora of amazing opportunities offered by some of the best public schools in the country. Oh and stop trying to weasel your way into the top recruiting event for young players in LI, The LI showcase cost 65$. All you snobs who tried to register have been removed from the roster. Ha
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
If all it takes is a promise to play varsity lax sooner rather than later, then that 8th grader was never cut out to be a Chaminade student in the first place. Better to stay home and wallow in mediocrity.
Most idiotic comment yet! Keep trying to buy Jrs success while we take advantage of the plethora of amazing opportunities offered by some of the best public schools in the country. Oh and stop trying to weasel your way into the top recruiting event for young players in LI, The LI showcase cost 65$. All you snobs who tried to register have been removed from the roster. Ha
No public school could ever come close to touching the prestige of an elite private school like St Anthony's. That's why so many kids go there and go on to great colleges.
Pequa rolling up 22-9 (not a typo) with 7 minutes to go in the game.
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
If all it takes is a promise to play varsity lax sooner rather than later, then that 8th grader was never cut out to be a Chaminade student in the first place. Better to stay home and wallow in mediocrity.
Most idiotic comment yet! Keep trying to buy Jrs success while we take advantage of the plethora of amazing opportunities offered by some of the best public schools in the country. Oh and stop trying to weasel your way into the top recruiting event for young players in LI, The LI showcase cost 65$. All you snobs who tried to register have been removed from the roster. Ha
No public school could ever come close to touching the prestige of an elite private school like St Anthony's. That's why so many kids go there and go on to great colleges.
St. Anthonys has weak academics and kids have poor moral values there, read the paper! Lax not great this year either! Why anyone would want to dump a bunch of money to go there is mind boggling!
Pequa rolling up 22-9 (not a typo) with 7 minutes to go in the game.
23-9 final.
Ball movement was unbelievable.
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
Very selfish to attempt to hold a child back from what the family thinks will be best for the child.
"Manhasset is trying to keep their players home. This year they were significantly under represented (relative to prior years) on the Chaminade Freshman team, which means that the good kids are staying put.
GC is Trying to do the same...even though they do loose some each year."
Kids have been leaving Manhasset and GC for Chaminade for decades. What exactly has been the great epiphany recently that all of a sudden these public schools have now woken up and they are only now trying to "keep their players home" after so many decades. Also, tell us what that conversation is like and between who? The coach and parents? The principal and parents? Who initiates it? I doubt any parent would call the coach or principal to give them a heads up - "hey, you might want to stroke our egos because we're about to jump ship". If that's not how it goes then give us an example of how this new thing of trying keep kids home actually works. Does the principal only focus on the lacrosse players while ignoring the golfers and book worm kids who are free to go without a fight? This is getting funnier and funnier.
"Manhasset is trying to keep their players home. This year they were significantly under represented (relative to prior years) on the Chaminade Freshman team, which means that the good kids are staying put.
GC is Trying to do the same...even though they do loose some each year."
Kids have been leaving Manhasset and GC for Chaminade for decades. What exactly has been the great epiphany recently that all of a sudden these public schools have now woken up and they are only now trying to "keep their players home" after so many decades. Also, tell us what that conversation is like and between who? The coach and parents? The principal and parents? Who initiates it? I doubt any parent would call the coach or principal to give them a heads up - "hey, you might want to stroke our egos because we're about to jump ship". If that's not how it goes then give us an example of how this new thing of trying keep kids home actually works. Does the principal only focus on the lacrosse players while ignoring the golfers and book worm kids who are free to go without a fight? This is getting funnier and funnier.
Ok you're right. This never happens. Thanks for being the smartest person on the board.
Just because you choose to ignore the truth, doesn't mean it's not true.
Why don't you share how it is not happening.?
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
If all it takes is a promise to play varsity lax sooner rather than later, then that 8th grader was never cut out to be a Chaminade student in the first place. Better to stay home and wallow in mediocrity.
Most idiotic comment yet! Keep trying to buy Jrs success while we take advantage of the plethora of amazing opportunities offered by some of the best public schools in the country. Oh and stop trying to weasel your way into the top recruiting event for young players in LI, The LI showcase cost 65$. All you snobs who tried to register have been removed from the roster. Ha
No public school could ever come close to touching the prestige of an elite private school like St Anthony's. That's why so many kids go there and go on to great colleges.
St. Anthonys has weak academics and kids have poor moral values there, read the paper! Lax not great this year either! Why anyone would want to dump a bunch of money to go there is mind boggling!
What's more mind boggling is the rhetoric out of pie holes like yours. Feel free to stay on your side of the fence and I will stay on mine...dam I just lost five minutes of my life responding to a mind numbed robot...
"Manhasset is trying to keep their players home. This year they were significantly under represented (relative to prior years) on the Chaminade Freshman team, which means that the good kids are staying put.
GC is Trying to do the same...even though they do loose some each year."
Kids have been leaving Manhasset and GC for Chaminade for decades. What exactly has been the great epiphany recently that all of a sudden these public schools have now woken up and they are only now trying to "keep their players home" after so many decades. Also, tell us what that conversation is like and between who? The coach and parents? The principal and parents? Who initiates it? I doubt any parent would call the coach or principal to give them a heads up - "hey, you might want to stroke our egos because we're about to jump ship". If that's not how it goes then give us an example of how this new thing of trying keep kids home actually works. Does the principal only focus on the lacrosse players while ignoring the golfers and book worm kids who are free to go without a fight? This is getting funnier and funnier.
I cant believe you are so blind. I am sure the coaches and administration know when a child is considering leaving (for either sports of academics). The kids talk and the parents not confirming anything is sometimes telling.
If from the Middle School years and up the coach or dept head is not interested in your child A he is not as good as you think or the coach/teach is a dope and you better start considering the alternatives.
When confronted by an administrator and asked about what your plans for high school are what do you do. Is it any of their business what you are doing. NO, it is not it is a family decision. Don't lie and see what they say. never initiate that conversation. If you don't know you don't know tell them.
Remember the jealous people will always talk and will sell your son out in a minute. They will always say who went to open house or who took the "test" they'll even say who went to the Prep class. I always wondered how they knew. A healthy relationship is always best just in case it doesn't work out for whatever reason.
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No public school could ever come close to touching the prestige of an elite private school like St Anthony's. That's why so many kids go there and go on to great colleges. [/quote]
Hate to burst the proverbial bubble, but St. A's is not a prestigious elite private school. None of the Catholics are. I'm saying this as a Catholic school parent, by the way.
Avon Old Farms, Deerfield, etc., now you're in the elite category.
Incidentally, kids go on to great colleges from public too. In fact, might even argue that public is a better pathway for a talented student to a great university these days.
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
If all it takes is a promise to play varsity lax sooner rather than later, then that 8th grader was never cut out to be a Chaminade student in the first place. Better to stay home and wallow in mediocrity.
Most idiotic comment yet! Keep trying to buy Jrs success while we take advantage of the plethora of amazing opportunities offered by some of the best public schools in the country. Oh and stop trying to weasel your way into the top recruiting event for young players in LI, The LI showcase cost 65$. All you snobs who tried to register have been removed from the roster. Ha
No public school could ever come close to touching the prestige of an elite private school like St Anthony's. That's why so many kids go there and go on to great colleges.
St. Anthonys has weak academics and kids have poor moral values there, read the paper! Lax not great this year either! Why anyone would want to dump a bunch of money to go there is mind boggling!
What's more mind boggling is the rhetoric out of pie holes like yours. Feel free to stay on your side of the fence and I will stay on mine...dam I just lost five minutes of my life responding to a mind numbed robot...
What's the matter, truth hurts? Keep paying your $$ while my son goes off to his IVY league school, coming out of a great public system!
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
I think everyone is missing the point. I know it's hard to understand for many of you who are short sighted but the reasons that kids go to Chaminade are very long term considerations, lacrosse is a very short term consideration and maybe 10th down on the list. It's really not a factor for whether a kid stays at his town school or not.
This is a joke, right? Any kid I know from the LI Lax scene went to Chaminade or St. Anthonys because of Lacrosse. Most conversations on the sidelines during 6, 7 and 8 grade were what would be a better fit (lacrosse wise) Catholic or their public school. I am sure there are many very bright kids whose parents are looking in their childs best interest but, come on, you are on this lacrosse site....its ALL about lacrosse!
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
If all it takes is a promise to play varsity lax sooner rather than later, then that 8th grader was never cut out to be a Chaminade student in the first place. Better to stay home and wallow in mediocrity.
Oh, here it is again! All of the Chaminade kids with the higher standards and morals. Please!
Right, GC = mediocre
And they will never be good enough to win again.
OK check please
Let's play a game... What names strike the feeling of fear in the hearts of upstate teams like Yorktown, West Genny, Niskayuna, Janesville Dewitt?
My guess is that the Smithtowns, Northports, Lynbrooks , etc don't come to mind.
They think of the WM, WI, GC, Manhasset, teams. But from now on, according to Mr.Smithtown ... They will never be a factor again.
WOW
GC mediocre this year, another poster suggested this trend will continue.
Nobody scared of Manhasset! Beat 2x by Lynbrook, so I know who I wouldn't want to play
Don't think any of the upstate teams were too scared of WI or Melville this year. They were very scared of the Stowns, next year East will be ranked #1 in Suffolk with a great shot at a state title, and yes teams will be scared, but it's up to them to work hard and not get caught up in all the hype like West did this year. As for the others, like I said, anyone's game....who wants it?!?
Right, Smithtown #1
And the reason that Yorktown drives right past Both Smithtowns and Northport on their way to play WM is because they are afraid.
It could not have any thing to do with the fact that they want to challenge the by playing the best programs and best talent.
Nobody driving past the Smithtowns to play WM this year! Check the record, that's the only proof you need! Sorry if the truth hurts.
Fact check:
04/05 Yorktown at Ward Melville- which WM won in OT 7 – 8
UPDATE:
.... and Suffolk not represented in the states
Go pequa
I see nothing wrong with a HS coach talking to an 8th grader about the options and benefits of staying in the town program. By having this conversation it gives the student/athlete more information to make an informed decision. There are huge advantages and disadvantages to going to a private school and having the varsity coach layout what his plans for the kid is and what to expect if he stays is a good thing. The kid and the family can make the best decision for the kid, I know of a couple of kids that chose Chaminade knowing that they would probably never play or maybe even not make the team and they would have been two year starters on their HS team and the decision was not about lacrosse and I also know kids that didn't go because of lacrosse, each kid and each family is different and ultimately the family knows what is best not any of us.
UPDATE:
.... and Suffolk not represented in the states
Go pequa
Is that breaking news? It's Nassau's year! Suffolk will be back next year! Hope ALL the boys have an amazing summer!
St. Anthonys has weak academics and kids have poor moral values there, read the paper! Lax not great this year either! Why anyone would want to dump a bunch of money to go there is mind boggling! [/quote]
What's more mind boggling is the rhetoric out of pie holes like yours. Feel free to stay on your side of the fence and I will stay on mine...dam I just lost five minutes of my life responding to a mind numbed robot... [/quote]
What's the matter, truth hurts? Keep paying your $$ while my son goes off to his IVY league school, coming out of a great public system! [/quote] The only thing that hurts in my opinion is the direction our Country is heading and has nothing to do with this site. My son wasn't fortunate enough to be in a better school district like you. Best of luck to your Ivy commit.
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
I think everyone is missing the point. I know it's hard to understand for many of you who are short sighted but the reasons that kids go to Chaminade are very long term considerations, lacrosse is a very short term consideration and maybe 10th down on the list. It's really not a factor for whether a kid stays at his town school or not.
This is a joke, right? Any kid I know from the LI Lax scene went to Chaminade or St. Anthonys because of Lacrosse. Most conversations on the sidelines during 6, 7 and 8 grade were what would be a better fit (lacrosse wise) Catholic or their public school. I am sure there are many very bright kids whose parents are looking in their childs best interest but, come on, you are on this lacrosse site....its ALL about lacrosse!
So very true because those kids are either smart enough where they are in the top of their class and scholastically/athletically/Socially you need to find the best overall fit.
Then there are those that need to use it as a spring board to a better school College than they may have gotten into at a public school because being a middle of the pack student at public is not better than being a middle of the pack at Chaminade.
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
I think everyone is missing the point. I know it's hard to understand for many of you who are short sighted but the reasons that kids go to Chaminade are very long term considerations, lacrosse is a very short term consideration and maybe 10th down on the list. It's really not a factor for whether a kid stays at his town school or not.
This is a joke, right? Any kid I know from the LI Lax scene went to Chaminade or St. Anthonys because of Lacrosse. Most conversations on the sidelines during 6, 7 and 8 grade were what would be a better fit (lacrosse wise) Catholic or their public school. I am sure there are many very bright kids whose parents are looking in their childs best interest but, come on, you are on this lacrosse site....its ALL about lacrosse!
So very true because those kids are either smart enough where they are in the top of their class and scholastically/athletically/Socially you need to find the best overall fit.
Then there are those that need to use it as a spring board to a better school College than they may have gotten into at a public school because being a middle of the pack student at public is not better than being a middle of the pack at Chaminade.
Being middle of the pack at anything anywhere won't get you very far, even coming out of Chaminade. Hard work is what gets it done, whether public or private. Colleges don't admit the high school, they admit the person. Work hard, get good grades, be active in clubs/sports/music, do volunteer/community service work and you'll write your ticket.
The private advantage over public is that the system promotes the characteristics that colleges are looking for. However, a motivated student/family can get it done no matter where they go to school.
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
I think everyone is missing the point. I know it's hard to understand for many of you who are short sighted but the reasons that kids go to Chaminade are very long term considerations, lacrosse is a very short term consideration and maybe 10th down on the list. It's really not a factor for whether a kid stays at his town school or not.
This is a joke, right? Any kid I know from the LI Lax scene went to Chaminade or St. Anthonys because of Lacrosse. Most conversations on the sidelines during 6, 7 and 8 grade were what would be a better fit (lacrosse wise) Catholic or their public school. I am sure there are many very bright kids whose parents are looking in their childs best interest but, come on, you are on this lacrosse site....its ALL about lacrosse!
No joke. That may be the kid's perspective but the forward looking and smarter parents are thinking much deeper and much farther out than just HS lax. It's about the making of men with the tools (including a priceless network) to excel at the highest levels of society. Please, keep your son where he is and enjoy the outcome of that lax knucklehead playing time decision.
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
I think everyone is missing the point. I know it's hard to understand for many of you who are short sighted but the reasons that kids go to Chaminade are very long term considerations, lacrosse is a very short term consideration and maybe 10th down on the list. It's really not a factor for whether a kid stays at his town school or not.
This is a joke, right? Any kid I know from the LI Lax scene went to Chaminade or St. Anthonys because of Lacrosse. Most conversations on the sidelines during 6, 7 and 8 grade were what would be a better fit (lacrosse wise) Catholic or their public school. I am sure there are many very bright kids whose parents are looking in their childs best interest but, come on, you are on this lacrosse site....its ALL about lacrosse!
So very true because those kids are either smart enough where they are in the top of their class and scholastically/athletically/Socially you need to find the best overall fit.
Then there are those that need to use it as a spring board to a better school College than they may have gotten into at a public school because being a middle of the pack student at public is not better than being a middle of the pack at Chaminade.
Being middle of the pack at anything anywhere won't get you very far, even coming out of Chaminade. Hard work is what gets it done, whether public or private. Colleges don't admit the high school, they admit the person. Work hard, get good grades, be active in clubs/sports/music, do volunteer/community service work and you'll write your ticket.
The private advantage over public is that the system promotes the characteristics that colleges are looking for. However, a motivated student/family can get it done no matter where they go to school.
I do think colleges know middle of the road (Grades) at Chaminade is better then lets say (middle of the road grades) Amityville. I think you would agree. As I agree middle of the road in general will not get you far. but Chaminade is not a general school
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
I think everyone is missing the point. I know it's hard to understand for many of you who are short sighted but the reasons that kids go to Chaminade are very long term considerations, lacrosse is a very short term consideration and maybe 10th down on the list. It's really not a factor for whether a kid stays at his town school or not.
This is a joke, right? Any kid I know from the LI Lax scene went to Chaminade or St. Anthonys because of Lacrosse. Most conversations on the sidelines during 6, 7 and 8 grade were what would be a better fit (lacrosse wise) Catholic or their public school. I am sure there are many very bright kids whose parents are looking in their childs best interest but, come on, you are on this lacrosse site....its ALL about lacrosse!
No joke. That may be the kid's perspective but the forward looking and smarter parents are thinking much deeper and much farther out than just HS lax. It's about the making of men with the tools (including a priceless network) to excel at the highest levels of society. Please, keep your son where he is and enjoy the outcome of that lax knucklehead playing time decision.
Resorting to name calling isn't the deeper and more forward thinking you were discussing in your previous post, is it? I see exceling at the highest levels of society is still a work in progress over in some Chamy households. You have no idea where my son is or the "priceless network" he does or does not have. As for that "Lax knucklehead decision" it worked out very well for us, (a couple of times over) thank you. I think the point you have missed is lacrosse is a HUGE factor in the decision between public and the "elite private" of Chaminade or St. Anthonys. For you to be "duking it out" on an anonymous post on this site proves my point.
in a perfect (Chaminade) world a High School lacrosse team would be made up of the best juniors and seniors in the school, the JV would be all 10th graders and the freshman team would be all freshman. but in reality very few public schools have the luxury of that kind of depth. High School coaches are much more involved in the middle school programs and the town summer programs so they know these kids and their ability and their potential so they might move up some younger kids to either help the team now or so they can practice with the older kids and be ready quicker for the Varsity.
In the real world most teams play about 15 - 17 kids in a game unless it is a blow out and unless the town has a very strong or very weak grade the break up should be 8-10 seniors, 5-7 juniors, 2-3 sophomores and 1 or 2 freshman it keeps a continuity to a good team from year to year. The Catholics have a different problem, since they are all new to the program and to the school many of these kids have not played together (maybe on the express) so keeping them together as a class for two years is a great idea IMHO.
If I was a varsity coach and I had an exceptional 8th grader that I thought might be going to a catholic I would do everything in my power to keep him in town including moving him up to varsity as an 8th grader even if he was not ready.
If Ryan Lukacovic had stayed in Syosset because he was moved up to varsity as an 8th grader then the benefits of him playing for Syosset for 5 years would have far far outweighed the moral in the locker room.
I think everyone is missing the point. I know it's hard to understand for many of you who are short sighted but the reasons that kids go to Chaminade are very long term considerations, lacrosse is a very short term consideration and maybe 10th down on the list. It's really not a factor for whether a kid stays at his town school or not.
This is a joke, right? Any kid I know from the LI Lax scene went to Chaminade or St. Anthonys because of Lacrosse. Most conversations on the sidelines during 6, 7 and 8 grade were what would be a better fit (lacrosse wise) Catholic or their public school. I am sure there are many very bright kids whose parents are looking in their childs best interest but, come on, you are on this lacrosse site....its ALL about lacrosse!
So very true because those kids are either smart enough where they are in the top of their class and scholastically/athletically/Socially you need to find the best overall fit.
Then there are those that need to use it as a spring board to a better school College than they may have gotten into at a public school because being a middle of the pack student at public is not better than being a middle of the pack at Chaminade.
Being middle of the pack at anything anywhere won't get you very far, even coming out of Chaminade. Hard work is what gets it done, whether public or private. Colleges don't admit the high school, they admit the person. Work hard, get good grades, be active in clubs/sports/music, do volunteer/community service work and you'll write your ticket.
The private advantage over public is that the system promotes the characteristics that colleges are looking for. However, a motivated student/family can get it done no matter where they go to school.
I do think colleges know middle of the road (Grades) at Chaminade is better then lets say (middle of the road grades) Amityville. I think you would agree. As I agree middle of the road in general will not get you far. but Chaminade is not a general school
Wow! Perhaps the colleges take into consideration the Chaminade arrogance...
Congrats to Massapequa. Epic Run!
How'd the Suffolk long island showcases go?
How'd the Suffolk long island showcases go?
Tryouts still happening, round 2 is Thursday 6/12
How'd the Suffolk long island showcases go?
Tryouts still happening, round 2 is Thursday 6/12
Thanks. Let's go Suffolk
any idea what teams are doing the nyla this weekend at Farmingdale?
Any word on how first night of under armour tryouts went?
Any word on how first night of under armour tryouts went?
All I can say is LI has some incredible talent. How they can pick just 24 is beyond me. I think they will keep most of the kids they picked last year even though they lost 3/4 games at the showcase. Would love to see some new guys in there!
They will cut the group to 88 around 7pm, then pick from there.
Absolutely horrible. I'm not crying sour grapes but the fix is definitely in. There was a lot of colleges there so its worth doing but if you want to make it you better know somebody or be from one of the top elite teams. No room for a newcomer. I personally saw kids that did not a thing during the tryout and they were selected. Im sure the college coaches see right through their B/S so again its worth doing just for the exposure. Corrigan gave a speech to justify their terrible biased selection process....I guess I am crying sour grapes........
The long island U/A was OK at best. Pretty much everyone knows its fixed but go anyway for the chance to play in front of the college coaches. If you are not one of the elite names or come from one of the top high schools you have a better chance of hitting lotto. There were players that didnt do much at all but still were picked. I think a few kids picked their own jersey numbers. If you tell me there was no influence there you are crazy. A lot of colleges do watch so that makes it all worth it.
any idea what teams are doing the nyla this weekend at Farmingdale?
It's Wednesday and the schedule for this event is still not out! Disgusting...
The long island U/A was OK at best. Pretty much everyone knows its fixed but go anyway for the chance to play in front of the college coaches. If you are not one of the elite names or come from one of the top high schools you have a better chance of hitting lotto. There were players that didnt do much at all but still were picked. I think a few kids picked their own jersey numbers. If you tell me there was no influence there you are crazy. A lot of colleges do watch so that makes it all worth it.
I thought it was run well. My son made it through to the final cut and he does not have any inside "connections" or play for a well known club. I saw some of the club "favorite" kids get cut who are committed top players. We will see what happens but either way well run for the most part. Was tough being there for 5 hours each day with final exams though!
any idea what teams are doing the nyla this weekend at Farmingdale?
It's Wednesday and the schedule for this event is still not out! Disgusting...
Heard it is coming out on Monday
Anyone know when the under armour final roster will be released?
Absolutely horrible. I'm not crying sour grapes but the fix is definitely in. There was a lot of colleges there so its worth doing but if you want to make it you better know somebody or be from one of the top elite teams. No room for a newcomer. I personally saw kids that did not a thing during the tryout and they were selected. Im sure the college coaches see right through their B/S so again its worth doing just for the exposure. Corrigan gave a speech to justify their terrible biased selection process....I guess I am crying sour grapes........
What a SCAM, Lots of Very good kids left out of top 88. Why? because if they are not in it, they can not make team. Look at some kids that made it. ALL contnections to evaluators. How sad that they have to do that and screw kids that deserve it. That's why team again will not preform well. Should have out side guys come in, Not daddies and Club guys just putting there kids through. Under Armor should be ashamed by this.
The bigger issue is the format. You have 10 minutes to show your stuff so ball possession becomes precious. UA should change the format so players get more time on the field to be evaluated and thus reduce the amount of ball hogging that goes on. The current format misses a lot of good players and advances less talented players who take advantage of their limited time by hogging the ball. Very dissapointing to keep kids out for 6 hours on school nights and not accommplish the desired result.
The bigger issue is the format. You have 10 minutes to show your stuff so ball possession becomes precious. UA should change the format so players get more time on the field to be evaluated and thus reduce the amount of ball hogging that goes on. The current format misses a lot of good players and advances less talented players who take advantage of their limited time by hogging the ball. Very dissapointing to keep kids out for 6 hours on school nights and not accommplish the desired result.
The worst is the rewards for selfish play - showcase lacrosse at it's worst. It was a disgusting display of "every shot is a good shot" and if you don't try to run through 3 long poles you are never going to touch the ball again. I saw one kid take a good 7 or 8 shots on the same possession - all misses. Really grotesque butchery of an otherwise great game - but the 10 min field time forces this. There has to be a better way.
The bigger issue is the format. You have 10 minutes to show your stuff so ball possession becomes precious. UA should change the format so players get more time on the field to be evaluated and thus reduce the amount of ball hogging that goes on. The current format misses a lot of good players and advances less talented players who take advantage of their limited time by hogging the ball. Very dissapointing to keep kids out for 6 hours on school nights and not accommplish the desired result.
The worst is the rewards for selfish play - showcase lacrosse at it's worst. It was a disgusting display of "every shot is a good shot" and if you don't try to run through 3 long poles you are never going to touch the ball again. I saw one kid take a good 7 or 8 shots on the same possession - all misses. Really grotesque butchery of an otherwise great game - but the 10 min field time forces this. There has to be a better way.
You must be referring to the kid in the Top 88 game. At least the evaluators recognized how selfish he was and he did not advance to the next round. College coaches in attendance must have been disgusted by the type of lacrosse they witnessed and shocked at some of the players who were selected to the Top 88. Corrigan sports certainly lost a lot of credibility and is going to have to address the way they conduct future LI tryouts. For a second last night, I thought I was at the Brine tryouts.
Apparently UA do the tryouts differently in other regions - fewer teams and longer games. That makes sense. Twenty minute game time with 10 mins per only lends itself to problematic play.
The best kids make the team, stop whining and go out and practice some more!
The best kids make the team, stop whining and go out and practice some more!
Stop kidding yourself. No they all dont
The best kids make the team, stop whining and go out and practice some more!
So says the Express dad.
The best kids make the team, stop whining and go out and practice some more!
get a grip.
The best kids make the team, stop whining and go out and practice some more!
So says the Express dad.
Who probably sold his own kidneys to get that kid on the team. Lol. Never ends...
The best kids make the team, stop whining and go out and practice some more!
So says the Express dad.
Actually most if not all of the top Express and 91 boys were cut before the top 88. Get your facts strait before you shoot your mouth off. Get over it and stop tying to look for blame as to why your kid did not make it.
when do they post the results of this FAIRLY PICKED NON POLITICAL team??
when do they post the results of this FAIRLY PICKED NON POLITICAL team??
Right after the payoffs
when do they post the results of this FAIRLY PICKED NON POLITICAL team??
I've been waiting all day, website says within 48 hrs, which is now past?
Anyone receive an email invitation yet?
Why was Mike Gongas evaluating players for Under Armour when he is banned from coaching X1. Seems strange and unethical
how does arciri NOT make under armour team?
Why was Mike Gongas evaluating players for Under Armour when he is banned from coaching X1. Seems strange and unethical
He also pushed Team Li Kids through to 88 and Kept some top kids out. Also how about attack man's dad for Bay point?
They really need to bring evaluators in from a different region to have a valid tryout. Kind of like teachers not being able to grade their own students papers anymore for state assessments. The whole evaluation system is broken and unfair. Not to say that many very deserving kids made the team, but there are some names that you just scratch your head ???
Why was Mike Gongas evaluating players for Under Armour when he is banned from coaching X1. Seems strange and unethical
He also pushed Team Li Kids through to 88 and Kept some top kids out. Also how about attack man's dad for Bay point?
How was Walt Whitman goalie not in 88 but Comsewogue was- OH That's right Mike gongas and SN is the coach, How disgusting that this can happen.
any idea what teams are doing the nyla this weekend at Farmingdale?
It's Wednesday and the schedule for this event is still not out! Disgusting...
I saw the schedule on the website Wednesday night.
Because most of the evaluators that were asked to do it have jobs and could not get there on time. Why would someone be an evaluator when you have to sit in traffic for 1.5 hours just to get there All you get is a t-shirt (no money) and then get out of there at 11pm to drive an hour home when they make $$$ out on the deal. Gongas lives near by and had an agenda.
He is the only summer coach on LI to ever get sued by a family and you can actually watch it because he went on "people court" and he lost. Sad TV puts 20 lbs on you. He would not let them use his name or team. Funny stuff
Why was Mike Gongas evaluating players for Under Armour when he is banned from coaching X1. Seems strange and unethical
Why was Mike Gongas evaluating players for Under Armour when he is banned from coaching X1. Seems strange and unethical
He also pushed Team Li Kids through to 88 and Kept some top kids out. Also how about attack man's dad for Bay point?
The Comsewogue goalie is great! Easy dad!
How was Walt Whitman goalie not in 88 but Comsewogue was- OH That's right Mike gongas and SN is the coach, How disgusting that this can happen.
Looked thru the bios of some of the underclassmen. 2017 roster has kids born in 1997. Wow. Will be 20 years old when graduating from HS.
What a load of nonsense
Because most of the evaluators that were asked to do it have jobs and could not get there on time. Why would someone be an evaluator when you have to sit in traffic for 1.5 hours just to get there All you get is a t-shirt (no money) and then get out of there at 11pm to drive an hour home when they make $$$ out on the deal. Gongas lives near by and had an agenda.
He is the only summer coach on LI to ever get sued by a family and you can actually watch it because he went on "people court" and he lost. Sad TV puts 20 lbs on you. He would not let them use his name or team. Funny stuff
Why in the world can't an organization like Corrigan who charges these kids 165$ to try out, not be able to make it worth the while to bring in evaluators from other regions?? They should be compensated for their travel expenses and time. At the current tryout fee this should not be a problem, unless Corrigan is that greedy, and not really concerned with providing fair evals.
I saw the schedule on the website Wednesday night.
That's a LIE the schedule was just posted yesterday around 11:00am
Because most of the evaluators that were asked to do it have jobs and could not get there on time. Why would someone be an evaluator when you have to sit in traffic for 1.5 hours just to get there All you get is a t-shirt (no money) and then get out of there at 11pm to drive an hour home when they make $$$ out on the deal. Gongas lives near by and had an agenda.
He is the only summer coach on LI to ever get sued by a family and you can actually watch it because he went on "people court" and he lost. Sad TV puts 20 lbs on you. He would not let them use his name or team. Funny stuff
Why in the world can't an organization like Corrigan who charges these kids 165$ to try out, not be able to make it worth the while to bring in evaluators from other regions?? They should be compensated for their travel expenses and time. At the current tryout fee this should not be a problem, unless Corrigan is that greedy, and not really concerned with providing fair evals.
ABSOULUTE SCAM - Should be a law suit all should ask for refunds
Last year there were two F/O kids taken. This year only one (very deserving). I find it interesting that the other kid was taken as a Middie even though he tried out for the F/O position but should not have made it in that position based on his performance.
Every other Boys Roster has two F/O positions listed. What?
Last year there were two F/O kids taken. This year only one (very deserving). I find it interesting that the other kid was taken as a Middie even though he tried out for the F/O position but should not have made it in that position based on his performance.
Every other Boys Roster has two F/O positions listed. What?
great player and fogo - it is like they have an extra roster spot by not taking two fogo's and haveing an excellent middie who while he maybe not be one of the top 2 fogo's on long island he is a top 5 - team is built to win
Last year there were two F/O kids taken. This year only one (very deserving). I find it interesting that the other kid was taken as a Middie even though he tried out for the F/O position but should not have made it in that position based on his performance.
Every other Boys Roster has two F/O positions listed. What?
great player and fogo - it is like they have an extra roster spot by not taking two fogo's and haveing an excellent middie who while he maybe not be one of the top 2 fogo's on long island he is a top 5 - team is built to win
How do you try out for F/O and then make the team as a middie is my question. Would it be better for the team to carry 12 middies, and one F/O or 11 great middies and two elite F/Os? Just because someone makes the team last year, shouldn't guarantee a spot the next year by bumping someone else more deserving. The best at the TRYOUT should make the team. There are so many great FOGOS on LI that tried out thinking they would be picked fairly based on their PERFORMANCE. Every other region picked two FOGOS, LI should be the same. If the evaluators were from outside LI, it would be much more fair. Good luck to all the boys who made the team!
If you are going to the tryouts with the hopes of playing in front of coaches you are talking to, or maybe catching the eye of a new coach, then its great. if you are trying to make the team based on performance, this event is not for you. The glaring absence of some very talented names is proof of that....
If you are going to the tryouts with the hopes of playing in front of coaches you are talking to, or maybe catching the eye of a new coach, then its great. if you are trying to make the team based on performance, this event is not for you. The glaring absence of some very talented names is proof of that....
That's why LI lost 3/4 games last year and will happen again. Great showing from Lax hotbed! Maybe next year try evaluating fairly. Just to clarify: most kids deserving, while some got by for other reasons, weakening the team.
How many undeserving chaminade kids??? Just curious. I know of a couple that did nothing to make the top 88. Really a shame that massapequa and chaminade put thru whoever they want. my son played on a team with one of the chaminade players that did nothing and they put that kid thru. Really sad.the Only room for 3 or 4 kids that don't have a coach pulling for them. Let's face it the roster is pretty much complete before they even have the tryout. But it was a nice touch to make everyone wait for an hour while they pretend to select kids. Will be no better results in towson this year....too many favors and undeserving players.
the only way this will stop is when kids stop paying the money and showing up..LI will look bad again this year...the games have already lost the status they used to have...its a joke...
[quote=Anonymous]How many undeserving chaminade kids??? Just curious. I know of a couple that did nothing to make the top 88. Really a shame that massapequa and chaminade put thru whoever they want. my son played on a team with one of the chaminade players that did nothing and they put that kid thru. Really sad.the Only room for 3 or 4 kids that don't have a coach pulling for them. Let's face it the roster is pretty much complete before they even have the tryout. But it was a nice touch to make everyone wait for an hour while they pretend to select kids. Will be no better results in towson this year....too many favors and undeserving players.
With two exceptions (neither one a Chamionade player) the Attack selections are a joke. It's a shame the players who truly deserve and earned the right to be selected were sent home. You can field 5 teams of LI Attackman more skilled than the those selected by their high school coach. A despicable sham! The regretful part of all of this is the message they send the players who worked hard to earn a spot. You can expect another poor showing from LI at this year's event.
Winner! The truest statement made in a month... The BS will stop when exploited players and parents stop showing up!
Most of those kids would have loved to apply that complete waste to their study time...
Agreed.....The boys selected from chaminade absolutely did not deserve to make it to the 88 let alone 44 and beyond. What did they do to make top 88......nothing..... The political machine is alive and well on long island.
One of the Chaminade kids left his equipment on the field before the 88 were announced. He obviously knew something the others didn't. The two games I watched him play he did nothing to deserve advancing to the Top 88. With so many talented Attack on the island, this our represntation. I've lost a lot of respect for his high school coach. Let's see how it all works out in the end.
Anyone at nyla today?
Anyone good at this event
Anyone at nyla today?
Anyone good at this event
The Nassau attack selections are the biggest joke of all...LI may go 0-4 this year..how do the big proven names going to big schools get sent home...when the outside evaluators are brought in...maybe then LI won't be embarrassed in Towson...shame on us all for putting our kids through this...
Swr played today at jv with some random kid for goalie from another school at nyla tournament. Then brought their own varsity players down to play with swr jv. Don't put them in a tournament if they can't handle the pressure. Losers
Our team will never play at NYLA again. Worst refs ever. Injuries due to poor sportsmanship. Outlaws should be ashamed of their behavior. It's lacrosse not football. Horrible tournament, barely any decent college coaches-
Never-
Our team will never play at NYLA again. Worst refs ever. Injuries due to poor sportsmanship. Outlaws should be ashamed of their behavior. It's lacrosse not football. Horrible tournament, barely any decent college coaches-
Never-
Swr played today at jv with some random kid for goalie from another school at nyla tournament. Then brought their own
varsity players down to play with swr jv. Don't put them in a tournament if they can't handle the pressure. Losers
Wimps
It was a horrible tournament. It's why most good teams were in NJ.
Shoreham maybe you should rest up this summer. You'll need all the strength you got to play real teams in the spring
When will tournament officials ever keep their own rules intact?
the only way this will stop is when kids stop paying the money and showing up..LI will look bad again this year...the games have already lost the status they used to have...its a joke...
Everyone should email their complaints to Corrigan sports, I did! They need to be aware of what went on, so maybe deserving players are not screwed net year.
lacrosse@corrigansports.com
Shame on them for rumming such a biased tryout!
Does anyone know if the Pride of LI games and, if selected, the Brine National Classic are worth doing?
Corrigan will run the same garbage tryout next year because he knows he will still get 500 players to show up. Can't wait to see the result in towson. I don't think they chose terrible players. Were there better players that didn't make it , absolutely. Let's face it Chaminade will always get 4 or 5 of their boys in as well as the other evaluators taking their players. The college coaches see the talent regardless if you play in the top 88 or 44. They know its all political and fixed.
Our team will never play at NYLA again. Worst refs ever. Injuries due to poor sportsmanship. Outlaws should be ashamed of their behavior. It's lacrosse not football. Horrible tournament, barely any decent college coaches-
Never-
Swr played today at jv with some random kid for goalie from another school at nyla tournament. Then brought their own
varsity players down to play with swr jv. Don't put them in a tournament if they can't handle the pressure. Losers
Wimps
It was a horrible tournament. It's why most good teams were in NJ.
Where in NJ? Aderenaline Platinum Cup? There were only 8 clubs invited to participate - 2 from Long Island (Express and 91). What if you don't play for one of the those 2 clubs? Is there another alternative to NYLA?
Perfect example is the attackmen from GC. Was 6th attackmen on GC. Did not see much playing time unless they were winning big. Freshmen and sophmore played ahead of him. During tryout kids on sidelines were yelling at him to pass the ball. 2 of his summer coaches were the evaluators for the attack so they pushed him through.
SHAME ON THEM
Did the Boys Suffolk All Americans get announced yet?
Did the Boys Suffolk All Americans get announced yet?
Yes, big Newsday on Sunday. And all LI
Suffolk AA's. Keenan, Zawadski, Greco, Cannon, Buccaro, Reh brothers, Mullins,Santorelli
Suffolk AA's. Keenan, Zawadski, Greco, Cannon, Buccaro, Reh brothers, Mullins,Santorelli
Did the Boys Suffolk All Americans get announced yet?
Yes, big Newsday on Sunday. And all LI
Would you be able to let me know where I can find the AA and all LI list thru Newsday. thanks for the help
Does anyone know if the Pride of LI games and, if selected, the Brine National Classic are worth doing?
Money making business. It is a joke same as under armour. Save your money for something better.
So, I take it there are no coaches at the Maryland event.
My son played 2 years ago. It was a lot of fun but there were no college coaches there.
My son played 2 years ago. It was a lot of fun but there were no college coaches there.
By two years ago do you mean middle school? I wouldn't expect college coaches at a middle school aged event.
My son played 2 years ago. It was a lot of fun but there were no college coaches there.
By two years ago do you mean middle school? I wouldn't expect college coaches at a middle school aged event.
How about the U-15 Championship? Any Coaches at that?
How did the Nassau v Suffolk games go today? any results?
Suffolk smokes Nassau once again all three games. Dominant in all areas of the game
Suffolk smokes Nassau once again all three games. Dominant in all areas of the game
Who were the difference makers?
Suffolk smokes Nassau once again all three games. Dominant in all areas of the game
Why are the Big Boys in Suffolk playing in the "B" Devision at Laxfest?
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
Actually they have many top kids that play on other travel teams, they also play ALL kids for summer. Plus seniors gone. I guess those are the reasons.
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
SW and WM in same division as SE, who won the championship against Express A. Why was an A Express team in that division?
Overheard a Div 1 college coach today saying all the games he watched on fields 13-20 didn't' matter if was a "B" team or "A" he said all of them were unbelievably skilled with all aspects of the game.
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
SW and WM in same division as SE, who won the championship against Express A. Why was an A Express team in that division?
Who cares about Express? Play in the top division. Pound your chest that you won the B division.
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
SW and WM in same division as SE, who won the championship against Express A. Why was an A Express team in that division?
Who cares about Express? Play in the top division. Pound your chest that you won the B division.
You are an idiot! Town teams normally play in B bracket because A has select teams where most kids are committed and recruited onto those teams. Would not be fair. Stop being so jealous!
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
SW and WM in same division as SE, who won the championship against Express A. Why was an A Express team in that division?
Who cares about Express? Play in the top division. Pound your chest that you won the B division.
You are an idiot! Town teams normally play in B bracket because A has select teams where most kids are committed and recruited onto those teams. Would not be fair. Stop being so jealous!
Syosset always plays in highest division. Guess they care more about challenging their players then losing a game in a summer tournament. They didn't seem afraid of travel teams in their AA bracket.
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
SW and WM in same division as SE, who won the championship against Express A. Why was an A Express team in that division?
Who cares about Express? Play in the top division. Pound your chest that you won the B division.
You are an idiot! Town teams normally play in B bracket because A has select teams where most kids are committed and recruited onto those teams. Would not be fair. Stop being so jealous!
Not jealous. Just thought the Powerhouse Programs would want to play against the best competition.
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
SW and WM in same division as SE, who won the championship against Express A. Why was an A Express team in that division?
Who cares about Express? Play in the top division. Pound your chest that you won the B division.
You are an idiot! Town teams normally play in B bracket because A has select teams where most kids are committed and recruited onto those teams. Would not be fair. Stop being so jealous!
Syosset always plays in highest division. Guess they care more about challenging their players then losing a game in a summer tournament. They didn't seem afraid of travel teams in their AA bracket.
How did Syosset do with that?
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
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SW and WM in same division as SE, who won the championship against Express A. Why was an A Express team in that division? [/quote]
Who cares about Express? Play in the top division. Pound your chest that you won the B division.
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You are an idiot! Town teams normally play in B bracket because A has select teams where most kids are committed and recruited onto those teams. Would not be fair. Stop being so jealous!
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Syosset always plays in highest division. Guess they care more about challenging their players then losing a game in a summer tournament. They didn't seem afraid of travel teams in their AA bracket.
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How did Syosset do with that? [/quote]
It's summer lacrosse u moron. They played great teams in very competitive games with the object being to improve as a team . Put themselves in highest bracket and won some and lost some. Guess they could have embarrassed themselves by going into lower bracket to blow out B teams and not accomplished anything as a team . They're high school players you tool so don't think they care about the tshirt. I assume you're walking around the house in your sons right now. Congrats
Answer the question, what were the scores of their games? Seems like they would have been more competitive in B. They would have a tough time beating the Stowns or WM. Like I said, jealous!
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
SW and WM in same division as SE, who won the championship against Express A. Why was an A Express team in that division?
That express team was no powerhouse team.
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
SW and WM in same division as SE, who won the championship against Express A. Why was an A Express team in that division?
That express team was no powerhouse team.
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
The top Express teams did not play in Laxfest. They were all in Philly for Dukes Invitational.
SW and WM in same division as SE, who won the championship against Express A. Why was an A Express team in that division?
Who cares about Express? Play in the top division. Pound your chest that you won the B division.
They cant take the pressures of A and AA
When you have an "AA" Division the "A" is really the "B" Division. You can call it anything that you like but it is not the "Top Division".
SW, WM and WI all in "B" Division .
The top Express teams did not play in Laxfest. They were all in Philly for Dukes Invitational.
SW and WM in same division as SE, who won the championship against Express A. Why was an A Express team in that division?
Who cares about Express? Play in the top division. Pound your chest that you won the B division.
Town teams traditionally play in a lower division than travel. A team like Stown has two HSs so the talent is somewhat diluted. They played where they belong. Why so concerned about it?
yes, smithtown has two high schools and have very diluted talent. Both teams really struggled this year.
yes, smithtown has two high schools and have very diluted talent. Both teams really struggled this year.
Now THAT was funny!!!!!
Did you see the playoffs and where both STowns were....jack [lacrosse] !!
Did you see the playoffs and where both STowns were....jack [lacrosse] !!
Team Smithtown did not do well at Best of the Best this weekend!
No worse then shoreham.
That team should retire
Anyone realize its not a two man show??
At NHSLS tourney a complete Baltimore smackdown on Smithtown East...SW coming up against Calvert Hall soon I believe
At NHSLS tourney a complete Baltimore smackdown on Smithtown East...SW coming up against Calvert Hall soon I believe
SE best players at UA they also play everyone in summer
Baltimore's best there as well. Nice try, maybe it
was the refs or the holdbacks or the weather
It was the crabs. always blame the crabs.
Calvert Hall spanks SW. Oh wait, let me guess...
All the SW kids are at UA
It was the crabs. always blame the crabs.
It was bad coaching that did them in
Many LI teams at hotbeds. This has turned into a low level tournament. No quality coaches or competition. Sad for LI lax to be at this type of low level event!
OK, so is it just me, or is this summer's recruiting circuit driving everyone nuts. Kids are being pulled in too many different directions. Kids playing on multiple travel teams. Defecting onto national teams, One showcase after another. We don't really get to see how kids stack up against the best of their own age group because there are always kids missing playing where they think the grass is greener. All these events bill themselves as invite only, best of the best. I don't see that. I see watered down lax. Anyone else?
OK, so is it just me, or is this summer's recruiting circuit driving everyone nuts. Kids are being pulled in too many different directions. Kids playing on multiple travel teams. Defecting onto national teams, One showcase after another. We don't really get to see how kids stack up against the best of their own age group because there are always kids missing playing where they think the grass is greener. All these events bill themselves as invite only, best of the best. I don't see that. I see watered down lax. Anyone else?
It is not just you, I was at a rising freshman tourney and everybody said it was a waste of time because there were no D1 coaches on the sidelines, I kept thinking how silly that was, they are 14 and playing lacrosse with their friends on a beautiful day, that really should be good enough, but if Petro is not at a 14 year old lacrosse game does it really matter?
2017,2016, and 2015 boys national individual rankings will be released today in Inside Lacrosse. Can't wait to see how LI boys stack up!
3d rising also putting out the top 30 2017's. Everyone seems to be getting involved in this now.
2017,2016, and 2015 boys national individual rankings will be released today in Inside Lacrosse. Can't wait to see how LI boys stack up!
Means nothing. My son been on it for past two years, his HS coach & future college coach next year told us same thing.
2017,2016, and 2015 boys national individual rankings will be released today in Inside Lacrosse. Can't wait to see how LI boys stack up!
Means nothing. My son been on it for past two years, his HS coach & future college coach next year told us same thing.
That's funny my son's coaches are very interested in the rankings. Seems the kids higher on the list getting the big scholarship offers. If that means nothing to you it would be weird
2017,2016, and 2015 boys national individual rankings will be released today in Inside Lacrosse. Can't wait to see how LI boys stack up!
Means nothing. My son been on it for past two years, his HS coach & future college coach next year told us same thing.
That's funny my son's coaches are very interested in the rankings. Seems the kids higher on the list getting the big scholarship offers. If that means nothing to you it would be weird
By "big" do you mean 10k for a 60k school?
2017,2016, and 2015 boys national individual rankings will be released today in Inside Lacrosse. Can't wait to see how LI boys stack up!
Means nothing. My son been on it for past two years, his HS coach & future college coach next year told us same thing.
That's funny my son's coaches are very interested in the rankings. Seems the kids higher on the list getting the big scholarship offers. If that means nothing to you it would be weird
By "big" do you mean 10k for a 60k school?
Nope, more like 30k for a 50k+ top school. That's what the top kids are getting, don't fool yourself. FACT
2017,2016, and 2015 boys national individual rankings will be released today in Inside Lacrosse. Can't wait to see how LI boys stack up!
Means nothing. My son been on it for past two years, his HS coach & future college coach next year told us same thing.
That's funny my son's coaches are very interested in the rankings. Seems the kids higher on the list getting the big scholarship offers. If that means nothing to you it would be weird
By "big" do you mean 10k for a 60k school?
Most kids are committed BEFORE rankings even come out. So ranking have nothing to do with an offer. And if your college coach is interested in rankings than there is a good chance coach needs your kid ranked to keep his job with the school.
Rankings mean nothing. My son and some of his friends very nice packages while never making the list. Its just for show, all good players but most are already commited.
2017,2016, and 2015 boys national individual rankings will be released today in Inside Lacrosse. Can't wait to see how LI boys stack up!
Means nothing. My son been on it for past two years, his HS coach & future college coach next year told us same thing.
That's funny my son's coaches are very interested in the rankings. Seems the kids higher on the list getting the big scholarship offers. If that means nothing to you it would be weird
By "big" do you mean 10k for a 60k school?
Most kids are committed BEFORE rankings even come out. So ranking have nothing to do with an offer. And if your college coach is interested in rankings than there is a good chance coach needs your kid ranked to keep his job with the school.
There is a reason why committed kids are ranked the best, did you ever think that that is the reason they are committed? statistically kids ranked in top 20 by IL are the best performers in there HS/club and college teams, just sayin! Sounds like somebody's kid did not make the cut.
Some observations:
The kids listed are for the most part total studs!
Most are from prep schools, many holdbacks.
LI not that well represented, although we do have a handful of top 20.
They are mostly committed to the best schools for a reason.
2017,2016, and 2015 boys national individual rankings will be released today in Inside Lacrosse. Can't wait to see how LI boys stack up!
Means nothing. My son been on it for past two years, his HS coach & future college coach next year told us same thing.
That's funny my son's coaches are very interested in the rankings. Seems the kids higher on the list getting the big scholarship offers. If that means nothing to you it would be weird
By "big" do you mean 10k for a 60k school?
Most kids are committed BEFORE rankings even come out. So ranking have nothing to do with an offer. And if your college coach is interested in rankings than there is a good chance coach needs your kid ranked to keep his job with the school.
There is a reason why committed kids are ranked the best, did you ever think that that is the reason they are committed? statistically kids ranked in top 20 by IL are the best performers in there HS/club and college teams, just sayin! Sounds like somebody's kid did not make the cut.
Some observations:
The kids listed are for the most part total studs!
Most are from prep schools, many holdbacks.
LI not that well represented, although we do have a handful of top 20.
They are mostly committed to the best schools for a reason.
Whats more interesting is the movement from year-to-year. Did a kid move up or down the list and by how much? A couple of spots not a big deal. 15 or more spots and its very telling both ways.
--Saw the SWR/WM team at Farmingdale yesterday, looked like they have some
good players & were having fun playing, nice to see.
Bad move not playing for your own HS team in the fall.
But at least they are playing so please tell them to:
work hard and average can become average
keep a positive attitude
be coachable
be unselfish
Keep a positive enironment at home.
Thanks, --"
---- The above was pulled from the SWR thread. Is there a combo SWR / Ward Melville Team out there? If yes is it part of the Patriot Elite or does it have something to do with Empire? or neither?
^really?
As long as kids are away from inexperienced young lad,
[quote=Anonymous]--Saw the SWR/WM team at Farmingdale yesterday, looked like they have some
good players & were having fun playing, nice to see.
Bad move not playing for your own HS team in the fall.
But at least they are playing so please tell them to:
work hard and average can become average
keep a positive attitude
be coachable
be unselfish
Keep a positive enironment at home.
Thanks, --"
This doesn't sound like "One Town One Team" .
Haha! That's hilarious. More like eight board members one brain.
[quote=Anonymous]--Saw the SWR/WM team at Farmingdale yesterday, looked like they have some
good players & were having fun playing, nice to see.
Bad move not playing for your own HS team in the fall.
But at least they are playing so please tell them to:
work hard and average can become average
keep a positive attitude
be coachable
be unselfish
Keep a positive enironment at home.
Thanks, --"
This doesn't sound like "One Town One Team" .
Yes too bad not playing as a high school team that is cohesive, but when you have coaches that have secretly select a few kids to develop in the fall this is the model that kids follow. WM has never been one town one team.
Another lax YEAR riddled with lies and empty promises
SWR ~~
Another lax YEAR riddled with lies and empty promises
SWR ~~
Do Shoreham, Wading and River make up the Three Villages?
This league looks to be tougher than the MIAA.
Spring 2015 Suffolk League 1 (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Middle Country
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Northport
Bay Shore
This league looks to be tougher than the MIAA.
Spring 2015 Suffolk League 1 (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Middle Country
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Northport
Bay Shore
Huh...really...Dont see 1 top notch team listed. Maybe Ward Melville and Northport. Rest of teams are not highly regarded.
[quote=Anonymous]This league looks to be tougher than the MIAA.
Spring 2015 Suffolk League 1 (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Middle Country
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Bay Shore [/quote
Huh...really...Dont see 1 top notch team listed. Maybe Ward Melville and Northport. Rest of teams are not highly regarded.
Where are the Smithtowns, Hills and West Islip ?
This league looks to be tougher than the MIAA.
Spring 2015 Suffolk League 1 (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Middle Country
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Northport
Bay Shore
This league is non competitive.
Another reason to play club lacrosse. Most of the strong 2018 club teams would beat just about all of these teams.
The other teams are in league 2, they come together during playoffs. Teams from each league have to be at .500 to get in. It will make for a less competitive Suffolk A league IMO
[quote=Anonymous]This league looks to be tougher than the MIAA.
Spring 2015 Suffolk League 1 (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Middle Country
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Bay Shore [/quote
Huh...really...Dont see 1 top notch team listed. Maybe Ward Melville and Northport. Rest of teams are not highly regarded.
Where are the Smithtowns, Hills and West Islip ?
[quote=Anonymous]This league looks to be tougher than the MIAA.
Spring 2015 Suffolk League 1 (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Middle Country
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Bay Shore [/quote
Huh...really...Dont see 1 top notch team listed. Maybe Ward Melville and Northport. Rest of teams are not highly regarded.
Where are the Smithtowns, Hills and West Islip ?
League 2. There are now 4 leagues in boys lax. "A" is split into 2 "B" is league 3 and "C" is league 4.
League 1 (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Middle Country
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Northport
Bay Shore
League 2 (A)
Walt Whitman
HH Hills East
Smithtown East
Smithtown West
Copiague
Riverhead
West Islip
North Babylon
HH Hills West
East Islip
West Babylon
Deer Park
Bellport
League 3 (B)
Hauppauge
Huntington
Eastport-S Manor
Kings Park
Harborfields
Comsewogue
Rocky Point
Islip
Sayville
Westhampton
Miller Place
E Hampton/BH/Pier
Mount Sinai
Shoreham-WR
Elwood-J Glenn
Bayport-Blue Pt.
League 4 (C)
Matt/Shld/Gpt
Southampton/Ross
Hampton Bays
Center Moriches
Babylon
McGann-Mercy
Port Jefferson
Suffolk league 1 is garbage. League 2 is a very strong league and they should have just put Ward Melville into league 2 also so that all of the best teams are in it.
Ouch. So Ward Melville will play brentwood and WI will play deer park, but won't play each other?? How is that good for anyone? Normally those teams are so far apart in preseason ranking that they don't have to play each other. Div 3 looks like a competitive league. Div 4 not so much. Why the change???
League 1 (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Sachem East
Middle Country
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Northport
Bay Shore
League 2 (A)
Walt Whitman
HH Hills East
Smithtown East
Smithtown West
Copiague
Riverhead
West Islip
North Babylon
HH Hills West
East Islip
West Babylon
Deer Park
Bellport
League 3 (B)
Hauppauge
Huntington
Eastport-S Manor
Kings Park
Harborfields
Comsewogue
Rocky Point
Islip
Sayville
Westhampton
Miller Place
E Hampton/BH/Pier
Mount Sinai
Shoreham-WR
Elwood-J Glenn
Bayport-Blue Pt.
League 4 (C)
Matt/Shld/Gpt
Southampton/Ross
Hampton Bays
Center Moriches
Babylon
McGann-Mercy
Port Jefferson
How often does this change. I think if you want to make a power confercne there needs to be some switches here cant you see the obvious ones.
Ward Melville
Sachem/s
Northport
Copiague
West Babylon
North Babylon
Deer Park
if you want parity you need to move 2 top teams from League 2 to league 1. and moves 2 bottom teams from League 2 to league 1.
Suffolk league 1 is garbage. League 2 is a very strong league and they should have just put Ward Melville into league 2 also so that all of the best teams are in it.
Not really. League 2 has 6 real bad teams.
Who do you predict for county champs Suffolk A? I say Ward or Stown East. Will be a good battle. Any others coming up strong this season? I was thinking maybe the Hills or Sachem N. Not sure how many good players graduated there.
Who do you predict for county champs Suffolk A? I say Ward or Stown East. Will be a good battle. Any others coming up strong this season? I was thinking maybe the Hills or Sachem N. Not sure how many good players graduated there.
Connetquot returning alot of players , lost 4 1 goal games last year 2 in OT
How did the HS teams do at StonyBrook yesterday?
Who is the anonymous [lacrosse] calling suffolk league 1 garbage?
How did the HS teams do at StonyBrook yesterday?
Rocky Point and Sachem East looked good.
Who is the anonymous [lacrosse] calling suffolk league 1 garbage?
That league is weak. It was a terrible decision to split it in this way.
How did the HS teams do at StonyBrook yesterday?
Rocky Point and Sachem East looked good.
Smithtown east beat both of the easliy, while missing top players
How did the HS teams do at StonyBrook yesterday?
Rocky Point and Sachem East looked good.
Smithtown east beat both of the easliy, while missing top players
WM and SmE had a pretty competitive game on Saturday. Going to be a great spring at playoff time...
How did the HS teams do at StonyBrook yesterday?
Rocky Point and Sachem East looked good.
Smithtown east beat both of the easliy, while missing top players
WM and SmE had a pretty competitive game on Saturday. Going to be a great spring at playoff time...
Anyone know of any results or see games yesterday at Farmingdale?
How did the HS teams do at StonyBrook yesterday?
Rocky Point and Sachem East looked good.
Smithtown east beat both of the easliy, while missing top players
WM and SmE had a pretty competitive game on Saturday. Going to be a great spring at playoff time...
Anyone know of any results or see games yesterday at Farmingdale?
It was more of a showcase than a tournament. Many college coaches watching games. Was wondering if anyone saw any of the Hill Academy games, were they as dominant as in previous years?
How did the HS teams do at StonyBrook yesterday?
Rocky Point and Sachem East looked good.
Smithtown east beat both of the easliy, while missing top players
WM and SmE had a pretty competitive game on Saturday. Going to be a great spring at playoff time...
Anyone know of any results or see games yesterday at Farmingdale?
It was more of a showcase than a tournament. Many college coaches watching games. Was wondering if anyone saw any of the Hill Academy games, were they as dominant as in previous years?
WM lost to Hill by a couple--score like 18-16...Good but not what they were last year.
Hill wasnt that great last year either, team LI beat them with a put together team.
Massapequa vs SE again next year in LIC. East wins it all next year
Not sure what they did vs Fairfield Prep, but lost to some Florida team in close one and beat Manhasset in a close one.
Hill wasnt that great last year either, team LI beat them with a put together team.
That's because they lost every faceoff
Not sure what they did vs Fairfield Prep, but lost to some Florida team in close one and beat Manhasset in a close one.
Not impressive, Fairfield Prep and Manhasset are weak. Could be a tough year for the Lions.
West Islip will struggle but may surprise just like last year. No one gets by Smithtown East in Suffolk in 2015.
West Islip will struggle but may surprise just like last year. No one gets by Smithtown East in Suffolk in 2015.
Yes I would tend to agree that they are stacked and should be heavy favorites. However, Smithtown West was virtually crowned state champs before the season and look what happened to them. Don't get too cocky. That is why they play the games.
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
They will need to get past Massapequa first
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
No tradition of winning. Nada.
WM and SmE had a pretty competitive game on Saturday. Going to be a great spring at playoff time... [/quote] Anyone know of any results or see games yesterday at Farmingdale? [/quote]
It was more of a showcase than a tournament. Many college coaches watching games. Was wondering if anyone saw any of the Hill Academy games, were they as dominant as in previous years? [/quote]
WM lost to Hill by a couple--score like 18-16...Good but not what they were last year. [/quote]
Syosset Varsity beat Hill Academy by 2-3 goals at Farmingdale tournament last Sunday. Even with Syosset missing a lot of players because of football
Syosset Varsity beat Hill Academy by 2-3 goals at Farmingdale tournament last Sunday. Even with Syosset missing a lot of players because of football
Really? check which Hill team.....team #2 big difference. Agree Syo has
very strong team this year.
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
They will need to get past Massapequa first
Pequa had there run, best players graduated, much different team this year, kind of like S west, where S East will only be stronger. Syosset will be the best Nassau team this year by leaps! But easy with claiming victory over Hill. You beat their JV team, not that impressive!
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
They will need to get past Massapequa first
Pequa had there run, best players graduated, much different team this year, kind of like S west, where S East will only be stronger. Syosset will be the best Nassau team this year by leaps! But easy with claiming victory over Hill. You beat their JV team, not that impressive!
Any score from the fall is totally irrelevant to indicate what any of these teams will be in the spring, coaches do not play to win, they play the full team, they are trying to get kids recruited and squads are not full. Anybody that thinks Massapequa is not going to be good this year is crazy, they have 7 - 8 D1 commits and until they get knocked out they are still the defending state champions.
Calabria will be sulking again at next years dinner when he has to hand the county trophy to Pequa again.
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
They will need to get past Massapequa first
Pequa had there run, best players graduated, much different team this year, kind of like S west, where S East will only be stronger. Syosset will be the best Nassau team this year by leaps! But easy with claiming victory over Hill. You beat their JV team, not that impressive!
Any score from the fall is totally irrelevant to indicate what any of these teams will be in the spring, coaches do not play to win, they play the full team, they are trying to get kids recruited and squads are not full. Anybody that thinks Massapequa is not going to be good this year is crazy, they have 7 - 8 D1 commits and until they get knocked out they are still the defending state champions.
They won't be good, lost all the best players. Sorry that the truth hurts! They barely made it past S East last year, who will be much better this year. Syosset has a much stronger squad, Good luck, you will need a lot of it! You never know what could happen in lax!
Pequa looks to repeat as State Champs with a loaded roster coming back. Syo needs a lot of luck especially with JC at the helm. He spends more time complaining to the officials and talking to the oppsing teams players than he does coaching his own team.
Pequa looks to repeat as State Champs with a loaded roster coming back. Syo needs a lot of luck especially with JC at the helm. He spends more time complaining to the officials and talking to the oppsing teams players than he does coaching his own team.
not happening. not a chance, other team with far more "loaded" rosters!
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
They will need to get past Massapequa first
Pequa had there run, best players graduated, much different team this year, kind of like S west, where S East will only be stronger. Syosset will be the best Nassau team this year by leaps! But easy with claiming victory over Hill. You beat their JV team, not that impressive!
Doubt Brodie Merrill was coaching JV squad. However I agree fall games are not indicative of Spring season predictions. A healthy Syosset is going to be tough and for all you haters the score at half was 6-4 vs Pequa so other than SE who else played Pequa that tough by the end of the year at their full strength.
Schedules up on section 11
Pequa scoring vs Syosset that day was done majority by the Juniors. Syo will lose again to Pequa in the county finals.
yea ok dream on time will tell
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
Why would there be any hype? This team hasn't won anything and the program does not havie a winning tradition. A lot to prove and nothing yet on the board. Lets see them win something before submitting the HOF ballots. I bet they are on the outside looking in again at the end. The only way they get through is if the rest of the league is down compared to recent years.
What are the Suffolk coaches doing about the helmet issues? We need some clarity. The power is in schools to put pressure on the companies to let us know what is happening.
Pequa scoring vs Syosset that day was done majority by the Juniors. Syo will lose again to Pequa in the county finals.
Most of the Syosset players that day were sophomores.
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
Why would there be any hype? This team hasn't won anything and the program does not havie a winning tradition. A lot to prove and nothing yet on the board. Lets see them win something before submitting the HOF ballots. I bet they are on the outside looking in again at the end. The only way they get through is if the rest of the league is down compared to recent years.
Say what you want they are LOADED- Could always be an upset come playoff time though-
What are the Suffolk coaches doing about the helmet issues? We need some clarity. The power is in schools to put pressure on the companies to let us know what is happening.
Plan on not being able to wear the 2 helmets that failed testing.
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
Why would there be any hype? This team hasn't won anything and the program does not havie a winning tradition. A lot to prove and nothing yet on the board. Lets see them win something before submitting the HOF ballots. I bet they are on the outside looking in again at the end. The only way they get through is if the rest of the league is down compared to recent years.
That is a stupid and jealous thing to say. This is the best team that S East has ever had. They are the favorites to win it all this year. And it won't be because the league is "down". S East has no reason to be on the outside looking in, you do remember that they were County champs last year for the fist year ever, and lost by one in LIC. I'd say that is pretty damn impressive! But we all know a lot of upsets can happen in lax. Good luck to all the teams. Who wants it??
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
Are you talking to the kids or the parents?
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
Why would there be any hype? This team hasn't won anything and the program does not havie a winning tradition. A lot to prove and nothing yet on the board. Lets see them win something before submitting the HOF ballots. I bet they are on the outside looking in again at the end. The only way they get through is if the rest of the league is down compared to recent years.
Say what you want they are LOADED- Could always be an upset come playoff time though-
Their failure to get off the Island was because they failed to grasp the team concept. Loaded with individual talent rarely wins a championship. Not getting off the Island again will be a massive failure. Unless the individuals start playing unselfishly, they'll be starting their summer early again. Pressure is on big time to prove they can play as a team and not individuals. Too many big D1 egos for that to happen. I predict an early exit.
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
Why would there be any hype? This team hasn't won anything and the program does not havie a winning tradition. A lot to prove and nothing yet on the board. Lets see them win something before submitting the HOF ballots. I bet they are on the outside looking in again at the end. The only way they get through is if the rest of the league is down compared to recent years.
Say what you want they are LOADED- Could always be an upset come playoff time though-
Their failure to get off the Island was because they failed to grasp the team concept. Loaded with individual talent rarely wins a championship. Not getting off the Island again will be a massive failure. Unless the individuals start playing unselfishly, they'll be starting their summer early again. Pressure is on big time to prove they can play as a team and not individuals. Too many big D1 egos for that to happen. I predict an early exit.
Starting summer early? county champs is not ending the season early last I checked. Lost by one in LIC a game which could easily have gone either way. All the big teams carry the big egos. Why are you so negative against s east? I suspect your are a parent of a benchwarmer.
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
Why would there be any hype? This team hasn't won anything and the program does not havie a winning tradition. A lot to prove and nothing yet on the board. Lets see them win something before submitting the HOF ballots. I bet they are on the outside looking in again at the end. The only way they get through is if the rest of the league is down compared to recent years.
Say what you want they are LOADED- Could always be an upset come playoff time though-
Their failure to get off the Island was because they failed to grasp the team concept. Loaded with individual talent rarely wins a championship. Not getting off the Island again will be a massive failure. Unless the individuals start playing unselfishly, they'll be starting their summer early again. Pressure is on big time to prove they can play as a team and not individuals. Too many big D1 egos for that to happen. I predict an early exit.
Starting summer early? county champs is not ending the season early last I checked. Lost by one in LIC a game which could easily have gone either way. All the big teams carry the big egos. Why are you so negative against s east? I suspect your are a parent of a benchwarmer.
Not winning a state championship will be considered a massive failure and starting the summer early. Lets see if they can handle the pressure of the ultimate expectation that they will win it all. I bet they will wilt in spotlight because they have no tradition or legacy of winning.
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
Why would there be any hype? This team hasn't won anything and the program does not havie a winning tradition. A lot to prove and nothing yet on the board. Lets see them win something before submitting the HOF ballots. I bet they are on the outside looking in again at the end. The only way they get through is if the rest of the league is down compared to recent years.
Say what you want they are LOADED- Could always be an upset come playoff time though-
Their failure to get off the Island was because they failed to grasp the team concept. Loaded with individual talent rarely wins a championship. Not getting off the Island again will be a massive failure. Unless the individuals start playing unselfishly, they'll be starting their summer early again. Pressure is on big time to prove they can play as a team and not individuals. Too many big D1 egos for that to happen. I predict an early exit.
Watched Smithtown East play 5 times last year and they "Played as a Team" in all 5. Very smart and very skilled. Much more of a Team than some of the traditional powers. I guess that is why they were Suffolk County Champs.
Smithtown East - don't believe the hype - stay grounded and you have the tools to be state champs. Everyone must check their ego at the door and play as a team. Period. Just ask Smithtown West.....
Why would there be any hype? This team hasn't won anything and the program does not havie a winning tradition. A lot to prove and nothing yet on the board. Lets see them win something before submitting the HOF ballots. I bet they are on the outside looking in again at the end. The only way they get through is if the rest of the league is down compared to recent years.
Say what you want they are LOADED- Could always be an upset come playoff time though-
Their failure to get off the Island was because they failed to grasp the team concept. Loaded with individual talent rarely wins a championship. Not getting off the Island again will be a massive failure. Unless the individuals start playing unselfishly, they'll be starting their summer early again. Pressure is on big time to prove they can play as a team and not individuals. Too many big D1 egos for that to happen. I predict an early exit.
Starting summer early? county champs is not ending the season early last I checked. Lost by one in LIC a game which could easily have gone either way. All the big teams carry the big egos. Why are you so negative against s east? I suspect your are a parent of a benchwarmer.
Not winning a state championship will be considered a massive failure and starting the summer early. Lets see if they can handle the pressure of the ultimate expectation that they will win it all. I bet they will wilt in spotlight because they have no tradition or legacy of winning.
How did your legacy work out last year? Oh yea, ELIMINATED. Didn't even make it to counties! Did you wilt under the pressure? Pathetic. Why don't you worry about how your team will handle the pressure and enjoy the process, instead of being a nasty toolbag?
Watched Smithtown East play 5 times last year and they "Played as a Team" in all 5. Very smart and very skilled. Much more of a Team than some of the traditional powers. I guess that is why they were Suffolk County Champs.
yes county champs & they have the rings to prove it! ....rings for winning county....lmao.
Watched Smithtown East play 5 times last year and they "Played as a Team" in all 5. Very smart and very skilled. Much more of a Team than some of the traditional powers. I guess that is why they were Suffolk County Champs.
yes county champs & they have the rings to prove it! ....rings for winning county....lmao.
Tradition starts! Let's keep it going!
Watched Smithtown East play 5 times last year and they "Played as a Team" in all 5. Very smart and very skilled. Much more of a Team than some of the traditional powers. I guess that is why they were Suffolk County Champs.
yes county champs & they have the rings to prove it! ....rings for winning county....lmao.
Winning the county means nothing if you can't get off the Island. The only thing that matters is winning the State. lmao.
Watched Smithtown East play 5 times last year and they "Played as a Team" in all 5. Very smart and very skilled. Much more of a Team than some of the traditional powers. I guess that is why they were Suffolk County Champs.
yes county champs & they have the rings to prove it! ....rings for winning county....lmao.
The only goal that matters to the best programs is winning states. Loser programs are happy with county.
Actually nobody from "da Island" got off of it last year as the state playoffs were at Hofstra.
Watched Smithtown East play 5 times last year and they "Played as a Team" in all 5. Very smart and very skilled. Much more of a Team than some of the traditional powers. I guess that is why they
yes county champs & they have the rings to prove it! ....rings for winning county....lmao.
The only goal that matters to the best programs is winning states. Loser programs are happy with county.
Yes, county win is a huge honor. How did your "best program" do last year? Oh yeah, ELIMINATED! I guess that's why you're still crying!
It was huge for SE to win Suffolk last year. Everyone had the other Smithtown winning but they played as individuals. SE played the ultimate team game as a team. They happen to come up one goal short vs a quality Pequa team but did won the toughest conference in the country. Stay classy East and good luck this season.
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Way too early but what of Nassau A, B, and C projections?
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Ask all the coaches and players if nobody cares about winning the most competitive public hs leauge. Any team that wins Suffolk A is the real deal!
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Ask all the coaches and players if nobody cares about winning the most competitive public hs leauge. Any team that wins Suffolk A is the real deal!
Nobody cares about the winner of the county if they can't go all the way. Losing to the Nassau or upstate champ will make the county seem hollow. It's winning the state or nothing.
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Ask all the coaches and players if nobody cares about winning the most competitive public hs leauge. Any team that wins Suffolk A is the real deal!
Nobody cares about the winner of the county if they can't go all the way. Losing to the Nassau or upstate champ will make the county seem hollow. It's winning the state or nothing.
Unless the upstate A teams improve significantly, the team that wins L.I. will not have a problem winning the state. Pequa won the semi and the final very wide margins.
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Ask all the coaches and players if nobody cares about winning the most competitive public hs leauge. Any team that wins Suffolk A is the real deal!
Nobody cares about the winner of the county if they can't go all the way. Losing to the Nassau or upstate champ will make the county seem hollow. It's winning the state or nothing.
The only person who would say such a stupid thing is someone bitter overy losing. Get over it, you'll have another chance this year!
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Ask all the coaches and players if nobody cares about winning the most competitive public hs leauge. Any team that wins Suffolk A is the real deal!
If it's the most competitive public hs league (debatable) then winning the county should mean winning the state. IF you win the best county then by definition it would be a huge disappointment to then not win the state.
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Ask all the coaches and players if nobody cares about winning the most competitive public hs leauge. Any team that wins Suffolk A is the real deal!
If it's the most competitive public hs league (debatable) then winning the county should mean winning the state. IF you win the best county then by definition it would be a huge disappointment to then not win the state.
wrong wrong wrong - it is a great conference because of the depth of excellent teams - all those years that Manhasset won the state C titles did not make that a great conference it made them a great team in a weak conference, Mass won the states last year and that hardly made Nassau A a great conference. Nobody on LI would say that Nassau A was better then Suffolk A but they did produce the State Champions,
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Ask all the coaches and players if nobody cares about winning the most competitive public hs leauge. Any team that wins Suffolk A is the real deal!
If it's the most competitive public hs league (debatable) then winning the county should mean winning the state. IF you win the best county then by definition it would be a huge disappointment to then not win the state.
wrong wrong wrong - it is a great conference because of the depth of excellent teams - all those years that Manhasset won the state C titles did not make that a great conference it made them a great team in a weak conference, Mass won the states last year and that hardly made Nassau A a great conference. Nobody on LI would say that Nassau A was better then Suffolk A but they did produce the State Champions,
By one goal! showing that LI rocks. both county champs, and all the runners up should be proud of their accomplishments. Many hard fought battles. For some [lacrosse] to minimize the accomplishments of any of the teams is just sad. Good luck to all the programs, looking forward to a great, competitive season!
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Ask all the coaches and players if nobody cares about winning the most competitive public hs leauge. Any team that wins Suffolk A is the real deal!
If it's the most competitive public hs league (debatable) then winning the county should mean winning the state. IF you win the best county then by definition it would be a huge disappointment to then not win the state.
wrong wrong wrong - it is a great conference because of the depth of excellent teams - all those years that Manhasset won the state C titles did not make that a great conference it made them a great team in a weak conference, Mass won the states last year and that hardly made Nassau A a great conference. Nobody on LI would say that Nassau A was better then Suffolk A but they did produce the State Champions,
I guess what you are saying is supporting his argument. If you win Suffolk A you are by default considered the best team in the best conference so you should go all the way and if not then its a disappointing season and brings into question how good the conference is. What you are saying is that the Suffolk A champ is the best HS team out there because they won the best conference. But if they don't win the State then what does that say about the conference?
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Ask all the coaches and players if nobody cares about winning the most competitive public hs leauge. Any team that wins Suffolk A is the real deal!
If it's the most competitive public hs league (debatable) then winning the county should mean winning the state. IF you win the best county then by definition it would be a huge disappointment to then not win the state.
wrong wrong wrong - it is a great conference because of the depth of excellent teams - all those years that Manhasset won the state C titles did not make that a great conference it made them a great team in a weak conference, Mass won the states last year and that hardly made Nassau A a great conference. Nobody on LI would say that Nassau A was better then Suffolk A but they did produce the State Champions,
Agree about Manhasset. What have they done since moving to B? Nothing. They may never win another state championship unless they move back to C. But from what I hear about their demographics, they may move up to A sometime in the future.
Regardless, Nassau and Suffolk should just have ability based "super leagues" regardless of school size. The current system hurts the better teams come playoff time as they are lulled into thinking they are better than they really are because their record reflects nothing except that they won a lot of easy games.
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Ask all the coaches and players if nobody cares about winning the most competitive public hs leauge. Any team that wins Suffolk A is the real deal!
If it's the most competitive public hs league (debatable) then winning the county should mean winning the state. IF you win the best county then by definition it would be a huge disappointment to then not win the state.
wrong wrong wrong - it is a great conference because of the depth of excellent teams - all those years that Manhasset won the state C titles did not make that a great conference it made them a great team in a weak conference, Mass won the states last year and that hardly made Nassau A a great conference. Nobody on LI would say that Nassau A was better then Suffolk A but they did produce the State Champions,
I guess what you are saying is supporting his argument. If you win Suffolk A you are by default considered the best team in the best conference so you should go all the way and if not then its a disappointing season and brings into question how good the conference is. What you are saying is that the Suffolk A champ is the best HS team out there because they won the best conference. But if they don't win the State then what does that say about the conference?
I think is still true. Suffolk a is the hardest to get to state champ. We also know any given day a team can be great but not quite click. Smithtown east had what it took to win states, but cam up a goal short. Does not prove pequa was a better team with a game that close. They had a better day. They deserved it. But smithtown east was a team equal in talent. We all know that who ever took long island took states. Now Nassau has some excellent teams, they are just not as deep as Suffolk.
From what I recall, Pequa was in control of that game from the start until SE made a push at the very end. Really wasn't as close as the score suggests was it?
Agree 100%. SW had way more talent last year but that group was about their own stats. Complete disappointment. SE much better team play. Gotta think they will be favorite for County's the next 2 years.
Nobody cares about the county. Can they win the State?
Ask all the coaches and players if nobody cares about winning the most competitive public hs leauge. Any team that wins Suffolk A is the real deal!
If it's the most competitive public hs league (debatable) then winning the county should mean winning the state. IF you win the best county then by definition it would be a huge disappointment to then not win the state.
wrong wrong wrong - it is a great conference because of the depth of excellent teams - all those years that Manhasset won the state C titles did not make that a great conference it made them a great team in a weak conference, Mass won the states last year and that hardly made Nassau A a great conference. Nobody on LI would say that Nassau A was better then Suffolk A but they did produce the State Champions,
By one goal! showing that LI rocks. both county champs, and all the runners up should be proud of their accomplishments. Many hard fought battles. For some [lacrosse] to minimize the accomplishments of any of the teams is just sad. Good luck to all the programs, looking forward to a great, competitive season!
Nobody ever remembers 2nd place. Just win baby.
The real problem is not letting nas play suf for the state title. Do what jersey does rank the teams and let them play a champion format.
"Nobody ever remembers 2nd place. Just win baby."
First of all, County Champ is a first place honor. Being a former county and state champ, I can tell you that they are both very special accomplishments that myself, teammates and school cherish. These boys, coaches and school will always remember The excitement of Playing under the lights at Stony Brook to a packed crowd, Having articles written about them in Newsday, being honored with trophies at the Coaches association dinner. Having their game televised on MSG. And bringing the first County Championship honor to their school. Sorry you only have negative jabs to offer, the truth is the victory will be remembered as a highlight of many a kids life.
From what I recall, Pequa was in control of that game from the start until SE made a push at the very end. Really wasn't as close as the score suggests was it?
From what I recall it was a one goal game and pequa got lucky at the end when shot went wide to open net.
I guess what you are saying is supporting his argument. If you win Suffolk A you are by default considered the best team in the best conference so you should go all the way and if not then its a disappointing season and brings into question how good the conference is. What you are saying is that the Suffolk A champ is the best HS team out there because they won the best conference. But if they don't win the State then what does that say about the conference?
two different arguments - I think most people would agree that the AFC north is the best division in the NFL with every team having a winning record and that NFC South is the worst division in the NFL with every team having a losing record, but if the Saints go on a run and win the Superbowl it does not make their division any better it makes the Saints the champions. Winning the Suffolk A's does not give you an automatic state champion but losing to the eventual state champions by one is no disgrace - no conference on LI can match the depth of Suffolk A and there is probably not a public school league in the country that can match the quality and depth of Suffolk A ( I am a parent of a player in Nassau A)
It is not called luck. It is called good defense.
I guess what you are saying is supporting his argument. If you win Suffolk A you are by default considered the best team in the best conference so you should go all the way and if not then its a disappointing season and brings into question how good the conference is. What you are saying is that the Suffolk A champ is the best HS team out there because they won the best conference. But if they don't win the State then what does that say about the conference?
two different arguments - I think most people would agree that the AFC north is the best division in the NFL with every team having a winning record and that NFC South is the worst division in the NFL with every team having a losing record, but if the Saints go on a run and win the Superbowl it does not make their division any better it makes the Saints the champions. Winning the Suffolk A's does not give you an automatic state champion but losing to the eventual state champions by one is no disgrace - no conference on LI can match the depth of Suffolk A and there is probably not a public school league in the country that can match the quality and depth of Suffolk A ( I am a parent of a player in Nassau A)
Nobody will ever remember the winner of the AFC North (Suffolk A). The only thing anybody will remotely remember is the Super Bowl Champ (Pequa).
I guess what you are saying is supporting his argument. If you win Suffolk A you are by default considered the best team in the best conference so you should go all the way and if not then its a disappointing season and brings into question how good the conference is. What you are saying is that the Suffolk A champ is the best HS team out there because they won the best conference. But if they don't win the State then what does that say about the conference?
two different arguments - I think most people would agree that the AFC north is the best division in the NFL with every team having a winning record and that NFC South is the worst division in the NFL with every team having a losing record, but if the Saints go on a run and win the Superbowl it does not make their division any better it makes the Saints the champions. Winning the Suffolk A's does not give you an automatic state champion but losing to the eventual state champions by one is no disgrace - no conference on LI can match the depth of Suffolk A and there is probably not a public school league in the country that can match the quality and depth of Suffolk A ( I am a parent of a player in Nassau A)
Nobody will ever remember the winner of the AFC North (Suffolk A). The only thing anybody will remotely remember is the Super Bowl Champ (Pequa).
Forgotten already! But the county and state champ teams will always remember their accomplishments. Don't you know the real world doesn't remember any of this because they don't care about lacrosse? what is wrong with you insisting on minimizing the achievements of hardworking dedicated kids? Very sad.
It is not called luck. It is called good defense.
Actually S town nearly tied the score because Pequa had no defense shot was wide open and went wide, like I said they got lucky because it should have went in being there was no defense to stop the shot. Now, that shot would have only tied the game, so we will never know what could have happened. Great, exiting game that could have easily gone either way. Happy for Pequa earning their first State Champ honor. Maybe we will get our turn one year! Good luck to all the teams playing this spring!
I guess what you are saying is supporting his argument. If you win Suffolk A you are by default considered the best team in the best conference so you should go all the way and if not then its a disappointing season and brings into question how good the conference is. What you are saying is that the Suffolk A champ is the best HS team out there because they won the best conference. But if they don't win the State then what does that say about the conference?
two different arguments - I think most people would agree that the AFC north is the best division in the NFL with every team having a winning record and that NFC South is the worst division in the NFL with every team having a losing record, but if the Saints go on a run and win the Superbowl it does not make their division any better it makes the Saints the champions. Winning the Suffolk A's does not give you an automatic state champion but losing to the eventual state champions by one is no disgrace - no conference on LI can match the depth of Suffolk A and there is probably not a public school league in the country that can match the quality and depth of Suffolk A ( I am a parent of a player in Nassau A)
Nobody will ever remember the winner of the AFC North (Suffolk A). The only thing anybody will remotely remember is the Super Bowl Champ (Pequa).
you are losing the argument so you are changing the question, this started out as a discussion that Suffolk A was not the best conference because they didn't win the states last year, having abandoned that losing argument you are now saying nobody will remember them because that didn't win the states. maybe a valid point but not part of the original discussion. I stand by my statement that Suffolk is by far the deepest and best conference of any public league in the country
I guess what you are saying is supporting his argument. If you win Suffolk A you are by default considered the best team in the best conference so you should go all the way and if not then its a disappointing season and brings into question how good the conference is. What you are saying is that the Suffolk A champ is the best HS team out there because they won the best conference. But if they don't win the State then what does that say about the conference?
two different arguments - I think most people would agree that the AFC north is the best division in the NFL with every team having a winning record and that NFC South is the worst division in the NFL with every team having a losing record, but if the Saints go on a run and win the Superbowl it does not make their division any better it makes the Saints the champions. Winning the Suffolk A's does not give you an automatic state champion but losing to the eventual state champions by one is no disgrace - no conference on LI can match the depth of Suffolk A and there is probably not a public school league in the country that can match the quality and depth of Suffolk A ( I am a parent of a player in Nassau A)
Nobody will ever remember the winner of the AFC North (Suffolk A). The only thing anybody will remotely remember is the Super Bowl Champ (Pequa).
I disagree in years to come some may question who even won. and will talk about the two smithtowns. But then again that conversation depends where you hail from.
I guess what you are saying is supporting his argument. If you win Suffolk A you are by default considered the best team in the best conference so you should go all the way and if not then its a disappointing season and brings into question how good the conference is. What you are saying is that the Suffolk A champ is the best HS team out there because they won the best conference. But if they don't win the State then what does that say about the conference?
Any teams doing the outdoor winter league in Hicksville?
two different arguments - I think most people would agree that the AFC north is the best division in the NFL with every team having a winning record and that NFC South is the worst division in the NFL with every team having a losing record, but if the Saints go on a run and win the Superbowl it does not make their division any better it makes the Saints the champions. Winning the Suffolk A's does not give you an automatic state champion but losing to the eventual state champions by one is no disgrace - no conference on LI can match the depth of Suffolk A and there is probably not a public school league in the country that can match the quality and depth of Suffolk A ( I am a parent of a player in Nassau A)
Nobody will ever remember the winner of the AFC North (Suffolk A). The only thing anybody will remotely remember is the Super Bowl Champ (Pequa).
I disagree in years to come some may question who even won. and will talk about the two smithtowns. But then again that conversation depends where you hail from.
If you are talking championships since 2000 Nassau A has won twice, last year and in '11. Suffolk A has won '00,'01,'06,'07,'09,'10,'12 and '13. There have only been 3 teams to win a class a title since 2000. West Genesee has won 5. Farmingdale 1 and Pequa 1. Suffolk A has three teams to win multiple titles and one that has won once. If you are talking about quality of the conference the titles speak for themselves. Nassau has some nice teams, but the depth and real quality live out east
If you are talking championships since 2000 Nassau A has won twice, last year and in '11. Suffolk A has won '00,'01,'06,'07,'09,'10,'12 and '13. There have only been 3 teams to win a class a title since 2000. West Genesee has won 5. Farmingdale 1 and Pequa 1. Suffolk A has three teams to win multiple titles and one that has won once. If you are talking about quality of the conference the titles speak for themselves. Nassau has some nice teams, but the depth and real quality live out east
Sorry, I meant 3 teams not from suffolk
If you are talking championships since 2000 Nassau A has won twice, last year and in '11. Suffolk A has won '00,'01,'06,'07,'09,'10,'12 and '13. There have only been 3 teams to win a class a title since 2000. West Genesee has won 5. Farmingdale 1 and Pequa 1. Suffolk A has three teams to win multiple titles and one that has won once. If you are talking about quality of the conference the titles speak for themselves. Nassau has some nice teams, but the depth and real quality live out east
Sorry, I meant 3 teams not from suffolk
nonetheless, LI class A lax is going to be exciting this year. Many schools outside the traditional powers are gaining ground, and are hungry. Good luck to all!
If you are talking championships since 2000 Nassau A has won twice, last year and in '11. Suffolk A has won '00,'01,'06,'07,'09,'10,'12 and '13. There have only been 3 teams to win a class a title since 2000. West Genesee has won 5. Farmingdale 1 and Pequa 1. Suffolk A has three teams to win multiple titles and one that has won once. If you are talking about quality of the conference the titles speak for themselves. Nassau has some nice teams, but the depth and real quality live out east
Sorry, I meant 3 teams not from suffolk
nonetheless, LI class A lax is going to be exciting this year. Many schools outside the traditional powers are gaining ground, and are hungry. Good luck to all!
Thanks for pointing out that Nassau A has won 2 of the past 4. Pendulum has swing from Suffolk being dominant toward the middle. Lets see if Nassau can swing it all the way to their side.
Cudos to two Nassau B teams testing themselves. Manhasset playing Boys' Latin and GC playing St. Pauls. How come the mighty Suffolk A powers don't test themselves against Maryland's best? Now that Suffolk A is no longer a power conference, they will have to test themselves with difficult non-conference games to prove they belong in the national conversation.
If you are talking championships since 2000 Nassau A has won twice, last year and in '11. Suffolk A has won '00,'01,'06,'07,'09,'10,'12 and '13. There have only been 3 teams to win a class a title since 2000. West Genesee has won 5. Farmingdale 1 and Pequa 1. Suffolk A has three teams to win multiple titles and one that has won once. If you are talking about quality of the conference the titles speak for themselves. Nassau has some nice teams, but the depth and real quality live out east
Sorry, I meant 3 teams not from suffolk
nonetheless, LI class A lax is going to be exciting this year. Many schools outside the traditional powers are gaining ground, and are hungry. Good luck to all!
Great post! In the true spirit of LI Lacrosse, no matter which teams in A, B & C come "off the island" and enter the states, we should all be proud and cheer them on.
Cudos to two Nassau B teams testing themselves. Manhasset playing Boys' Latin and GC playing St. Pauls. How come the mighty Suffolk A powers don't test themselves against Maryland's best? Now that Suffolk A is no longer a power conference, they will have to test themselves with difficult non-conference games to prove they belong in the national conversation.
I fear for Manhasset in that one. Enemy territory with local "good ole' boy" refs. Oy.
Cudos to two Nassau B teams testing themselves. Manhasset playing Boys' Latin and GC playing St. Pauls. How come the mighty Suffolk A powers don't test themselves against Maryland's best? Now that Suffolk A is no longer a power conference, they will have to test themselves with difficult non-conference games to prove they belong in the national conversation.
Many of Suffolk A went to the Boys Latin Summer showcase in July. Excellent tourney with top teams from all over the country. Well tested
....BL took a beating from some Suffolk "A" teams....
WM vs Smithtown W scrimmage on Saturday...
WM vs Smithtown W scrimmage on Saturday...
Where? West will lose bad
WM vs Smithtown W scrimmage on Saturday...
Where? West will lose bad
WOW a scrimmage in December that means a lot
Errr.,. You mean Team Smithtown v Patriot Gold right? NYSPHAA rules.
Any one have schedule this sun for bayshore League?
Thanks
baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
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baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
hahaha we will see. lets see what happens when they go up against the big boys!
WM vs Smithtown W scrimmage on Saturday...
Where? West will lose bad
heard it went very bad for west, they need a new coach!
baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
hahaha we will see. lets see what happens when they go up against the big boys!
WW has not lost all fall- wins over Smithtown West and West Islip along with a few middle of the road wins (ESM, Comswewogue etx) They always play SE tough- lost by 1 last year and could have won.
Not saying they will win anything or even a playoff game- just a dark horse to watch out for. Like I said with the face off and goaltending they have- combined with solid midfield play they are dangerous.
baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
best goalie in suffolk is at sachem east
Sachem north and whitman kids are both real good - sachem east good but not close to other two -
baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
hahaha we will see. lets see what happens when they go up against the big boys!
WW has not lost all fall- wins over Smithtown West and West Islip along with a few middle of the road wins (ESM, Comswewogue etx) They always play SE tough- lost by 1 last year and could have won.
Not saying they will win anything or even a playoff game- just a dark horse to watch out for. Like I said with the face off and goaltending they have- combined with solid midfield play they are dangerous.
Could be, we'll see who wants it soon enough. That's what's great about lax. Should be an exciting season!
baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
From what I heard WI will have their toughest year in a very long time, like losing record tough. Whitman is good team. Any idea who their out of league games may be against ?
baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
hahaha we will see. lets see what happens when they go up against the big boys!
WW has not lost all fall- wins over Smithtown West and West Islip along with a few middle of the road wins (ESM, Comswewogue etx) They always play SE tough- lost by 1 last year and could have won.
Not saying they will win anything or even a playoff game- just a dark horse to watch out for. Like I said with the face off and goaltending they have- combined with solid midfield play they are dangerous.
Never heard of them.
SM East and Ward Melville also have multiple strong FO guys. All these kids trained by shomo so the playing filed is pretty level
Point is not WW is as good as Smith E and WM- Think they are tops going into spring. But WW along with Sachem North and East, Hills west and east, West Islip, Northport, Smith west and Connetquot Can all have a good spring and pull a upset. Not sure about bayshore, EI, Riverhead and Commack.
Full 2015 schedules are up on Section IX website - FYI
baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
From what I heard WI will have their toughest year in a very long time, like losing record tough. Whitman is good team. Any idea who their out of league games may be against ?
Take a look at their schedule....they won;t have a losing season.
WI will be 11-1 maybe 10-2 the only decent teams are both Smithtown teams and you can already chalk up Smithtown East as Suffolk Champs
SW may end up with winning record in league play because of watered down schedule with new alignment but not going to be competing for any titles............Smithtown East favorite for county. Sachem, WM, WW, maybe NP will compete for same.
Here top 14 Suffolk for spring- Whats yours?
1) Smithtown east
2) Ward melville
3) Northport
4) Connetquot
5) Hills West
6) Sachem North
7) Whitman
8) West islip
9) Sachem east
10)Smithtown West
11)Commack
12)Hills east
13)Riverhead
14)Bayshore
baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
hahaha we will see. lets see what happens when they go up against the big boys!
Have to agree saw WW goalie at Nassau Suffolk game and kid was absolutely dominant. He stood on his head all game. Props to Whitman for building a pretty decent program.
WW has not lost all fall- wins over Smithtown West and West Islip along with a few middle of the road wins (ESM, Comswewogue etx) They always play SE tough- lost by 1 last year and could have won.
Not saying they will win anything or even a playoff game- just a dark horse to watch out for. Like I said with the face off and goaltending they have- combined with solid midfield play they are dangerous.
Here top 14 Suffolk for spring- Whats yours?
1) Smithtown east 9-3
2) Ward Melville 10-2
3) Northport 8-4
4) Connetquot 7-5
5) Hills West 8-4
6) Sachem North 8-4
7) Whitman 7-5
8) West islip 8-4
9) Sachem east 8-4
10)Smithtown West 9-3
11)Commack 6-6
12)Hills east 9-3
13)Riverhead 4-8
14)Bayshore 6-6
Here top 14 Suffolk for spring- Whats yours?
1) Smithtown east
2) Ward melville
3) Northport
4) Connetquot
5) Hills West
6) Sachem North
7) Whitman
8) West islip
9) Sachem east
10)Smithtown West
11)Commack
12)Hills east
13)Riverhead
14)Bayshore
The only thing certain is that this will be wrong. Smithtown East lost a lot to graduation as did others. A lot to prove.
Here top 14 Suffolk for spring- Whats yours?
1) Smithtown east
2) Ward melville
3) Northport
4) Connetquot
5) Hills West
6) Sachem North
7) Whitman
8) West islip
9) Sachem east
10)Smithtown West
11)Commack
12)Hills east
13)Riverhead
14)Bayshore
The only thing certain is that this will be wrong. Smithtown East lost a lot to graduation as did others. A lot to prove.
Really?? Smithtown East only got stronger, had only a couple of good seniors last year, but a powerhouse of underclassmen. They currently have 13 D1 commits. They are by far the favorites, but lax can be very surprising from one day to the next. Only time will tell how it all plays out. Will be a great year! A true test of survival of the fittest!
baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
From what I heard WI will have their toughest year in a very long time, like losing record tough. Whitman is good team. Any idea who their out of league games may be against ?
Take a look at their schedule....they won;t have a losing season.
ok let's look at the 16 game schedule -say we concede to WI wins against Copiague, North Babylon,East Islip ,Deer Park, West Babylon, and Bellport. That is 6 wins. They also play Whitman, SW, HHH West AND HHH East, and Riverhead. These will be the make or break games that can go either way, but a 1-4 or 2-3 against these teams could put them at .500 or below. I would concede a loss to SE. They also have 3 non-league games. They have a game vs. Section Five Penfield ( above average team, who they beat 8-5 last year). The remaining games could be traditional rivals Chaminade and Ward Melville. They would not be favored to win those, so yeah I think an 8-8 or worse season could be in the making. Then again, they seem to get better at the end of each season so can't count them out either.
Nassau Top 12 IMHO
Lynbrook
Garden City
Massapequa
Wantagh
Syosset
Cold Spring Harbor
Manhasset
Port Washington
So Side
MacArthur-Levittown
Hicksville
Farmingdale
[quote=Anonymous]baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
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Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
hahaha we will see. lets see what happens when they go up against the big boys!
Have to agree saw WW goalie at Nassau Suffolk game and kid was absolutely dominant. He stood on his head all game. Props to Whitman for building a pretty decent program.
WW has not lost all fall- wins over Smithtown West and West Islip along with a few middle of the road wins (ESM, Comswewogue etx) They always play SE tough- lost by 1 last year and could have won.
Not saying they will win anything or even a playoff game- just a dark horse to watch out for. Like I said with the face off and goaltending they have- combined with solid midfield play they are dangerous.
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baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
From what I heard WI will have their toughest year in a very long time, like losing record tough. Whitman is good team. Any idea who their out of league games may be against ?
Take a look at their schedule....they won;t have a losing season.
ok let's look at the 16 game schedule -say we concede to WI wins against Copiague, North Babylon,East Islip ,Deer Park, West Babylon, and Bellport. That is 6 wins. They also play Whitman, SW, HHH West AND HHH East, and Riverhead. These will be the make or break games that can go either way, but a 1-4 or 2-3 against these teams could put them at .500 or below. I would concede a loss to SE. They also have 3 non-league games. They have a game vs. Section Five Penfield ( above average team, who they beat 8-5 last year). The remaining games could be traditional rivals Chaminade and Ward Melville. They would not be favored to win those, so yeah I think an 8-8 or worse season could be in the making. Then again, they seem to get better at the end of each season so can't count them out either.
You can also count wins against Riverhead,Half hollow schools, Whitman add 4 to your 6 gives you ten we beat Penfield last year which was the turning point of their season and you might sneak a win against SW I will give you WM, SE, and the Flyers. With the coaching staff they have is always good for at least one upset if not two plus they didnt really lose to many key players so Im predicting 21-4
Nassau Top 12 IMHO
Lynbrook
Garden City
Massapequa
Wantagh
Syosset
Cold Spring Harbor
Manhasset
Port Washington
So Side
MacArthur-Levittown
Hicksville
Farmingdale
Manhasset lost a ton to graduation - their entire starting defense and goalie as well as a great leader captain and 2 key goal scorers at attack. But, they always have a good crop of talent moving up. Should still be a very tough out but an entirely new defense and goalie that have very little if any varsity playing experience is a very big concern against teams that have a decent offense and play disciplined defense themselves. I say Manhasset has a strong conference record during the regular season and beats up on the lesser teams but struggles in the playoffs against more disciplined, physical and athletic competition.
baysore and islip league, Any one have results for weekend
?????
Whitman beat WI A team- Whitman has best goalie in Suffolk and a dominate face off kid. They have potential to be in any game they play with that combo.
From what I heard WI will have their toughest year in a very long time, like losing record tough. Whitman is good team. Any idea who their out of league games may be against ?
Take a look at their schedule....they won;t have a losing season.
ok let's look at the 16 game schedule -say we concede to WI wins against Copiague, North Babylon,East Islip ,Deer Park, West Babylon, and Bellport. That is 6 wins. They also play Whitman, SW, HHH West AND HHH East, and Riverhead. These will be the make or break games that can go either way, but a 1-4 or 2-3 against these teams could put them at .500 or below. I would concede a loss to SE. They also have 3 non-league games. They have a game vs. Section Five Penfield ( above average team, who they beat 8-5 last year). The remaining games could be traditional rivals Chaminade and Ward Melville. They would not be favored to win those, so yeah I think an 8-8 or worse season could be in the making. Then again, they seem to get better at the end of each season so can't count them out either.
You can also count wins against Riverhead,Half hollow schools, Whitman add 4 to your 6 gives you ten we beat Penfield last year which was the turning point of their season and you might sneak a win against SW I will give you WM, SE, and the Flyers. With the coaching staff they have is always good for at least one upset if not two plus they didnt really lose to many key players so Im predicting 21-4
I don't think you can dismiss HHH schools so easily, they have improved every year and have many good young players ( more D-1 commits than WI, although SW fans can tell you what that means). Same goes for Whitman. I think Riverhead just lost to SE by 1 goal last year although it was early. Their youth program is pretty good and I think they are on the way up. We will see a few upsets of more traditional powers this season. Should be fun all around.
Nassau Top 12 IMHO
Lynbrook
Garden City
Massapequa
Wantagh
Syosset
Cold Spring Harbor
Manhasset
Port Washington
So Side
MacArthur-Levittown
Hicksville
Farmingdale
Manhasset lost a ton to graduation - their entire starting defense and goalie as well as a great leader captain and 2 key goal scorers at attack. But, they always have a good crop of talent moving up. Should still be a very tough out but an entirely new defense and goalie that have very little if any varsity playing experience is a very big concern against teams that have a decent offense and play disciplined defense themselves. I say Manhasset has a strong conference record during the regular season and beats up on the lesser teams but struggles in the playoffs against more disciplined, physical and athletic competition.
Massapequa lost a ton to graduation - their entire starting defense and goalie as well as a great leader captain and 2 key goal scorers at attack. But, they always have a good crop of talent moving up. Should still be a very tough out but an entirely new defense and goalie that have very little if any varsity playing experience is a very big concern against teams that have a decent offense and play disciplined defense themselves. I say Massapequa has a strong conference record during the regular season and beats up on the lesser teams but struggles in the playoffs against more disciplined, physical and athletic competition.
Looks pretty accurate. Long beach should fall somewhere in the mix. Wantagh should improve from last year but needs a new head coach. Garden city should be in the one spot and lynbrook at two. Massapequa may have lost too many players that will prevent them from being as competitive but still a good program. Going to be an interesting spring!
Wantagh has needed a new coach for over 10 years...to me always one of the most talented but nothing at the helm...
Pequa is always 1 -- accept it.
Agreed about wantagh. Usually a good program. I heard that most want that coach gone in a big way. Don't know him so no comment. Good athletes come out of the town.
If Wantagh ever gets a decent head coach they will be a contender every year. They always have some of the more talented players in the conference. GC, Manhasset, Massapequa and schools like them are the envy of high school lacrosse. They are coached to deep playoff runs and county and state championships. Is the water different there?
Wantagh has needed a new coach for over 10 years...to me always one of the most talented but nothing at the helm...
The team that needs a new coach is Farmingdale. The game isn't the same now as it was in the 60's when the coach started and it has passed him by. Last year 11 players quit the Varsity team in the middle of the season because of abuse by an assistant who still has the job. About 5 of those 11 were starters too. Great Farmingdale alums coaching all over the island and at the college level yet the HS is stuck with these guys.
You get what you pay for when gym teachers coach your lacrosse team...
At least Wantagh is not alone........
Wantagh has needed a new coach for over 10 years...to me always one of the most talented but nothing at the helm...
The team that needs a new coach is Farmingdale. The game isn't the same now as it was in the 60's when the coach started and it has passed him by. Last year 11 players quit the Varsity team in the middle of the season because of abuse by an assistant who still has the job. About 5 of those 11 were starters too. Great Farmingdale alums coaching all over the island and at the college level yet the HS is stuck with these guys.
You are so correct, the bum has not won a state championship in over three years also why do you think that so many Alumni are coaching all over the island and in college ranks? maybe because he taught them?
The game has not changed much in the last three hundred years, the equipment has changed, the kids attitude has changed and the parents expectations have changed but the game is pretty much the same, put the rock in the twine more then the other guys.
As Massapequa learned last year and many other teams learn year in and year out, the best coaches are usually the guy that gets off the bus with the best players.
Well said but the WI staff gets a few wins every year. That team last year had no right to be in the county finals but the staff did a tremedous job and will have to do an even better job this time around even with an easy schedule.
Wantagh has needed a new coach for over 10 years...to me always one of the most talented but nothing at the helm...
The team that needs a new coach is Farmingdale. The game isn't the same now as it was in the 60's when the coach started and it has passed him by. Last year 11 players quit the Varsity team in the middle of the season because of abuse by an assistant who still has the job. About 5 of those 11 were starters too. Great Farmingdale alums coaching all over the island and at the college level yet the HS is stuck with these guys.
You are so correct, the bum has not won a state championship in over three years also why do you think that so many Alumni are coaching all over the island and in college ranks? maybe because he taught them?
The game has not changed much in the last three hundred years, the equipment has changed, the kids attitude has changed and the parents expectations have changed but the game is pretty much the same, put the rock in the twine more then the other guys.
As Massapequa learned last year and many other teams learn year in and year out, the best coaches are usually the guy that gets off the bus with the best players.
Your right he did win 1 state title in the 40 years he's been coaching. And that wasn't even a top 10 all time Farmingdale team......He does nothing to help the players. Tons of talent in the town that has nothing to do with that senile old man who still coaches as a hobby and nothing more.
Reh was a great coach at Wantagh. He could not stand the parents in that town. That's the real reason he left. FACT
You must be an angry parent who's expectations of your son didn't meet his capability. I assume you don't know the countless players that have gone to college under his time. Too many d1's over the years to begin. It takes more than a zip code to be the best. He does his best and expects your best. I'm sure his former players would agree.
To credit the Wantagh and farmingdale coaches with any of the players that go d1 is ridiculous. Most of the school coaches do very little to help the players. They do it on their own on the summer travel teams. Don't know about Wantagh but my son got nothing from his high school coach. If the Wantagh and farmingdale coaches are of the typical do nothing outdated gym teachers.....nuff said. You have to look elsewhere for a real coach. The high school coaches should not take credit for what the boys do without their help.
To credit the Wantagh and farmingdale coaches with any of the players that go d1 is ridiculous. Most of the school coaches do very little to help the players. They do it on their own on the summer travel teams. Don't know about Wantagh but my son got nothing from his high school coach. If the Wantagh and farmingdale coaches are of the typical do nothing outdated gym teachers.....nuff said. You have to look elsewhere for a real coach. The high school coaches should not take credit for what the boys do without their help.
The Farmingdale head coach does nothing at all to help the players. ALL of the players that have played at the next level did it on their own with the help of their parents and club team coaches. They used to have a fantastic assistant coach who would help the players but he like all of the other good assistants left to another school because of the head coach.
Club lacrosse hasn't been around that long. Farmingdale has had plenty of d1 players before club lax even existed. He had to help them...no?
And you get your data how ? ALL ? Your wrong buddy. Understand that it is a different time now. Some kids are committing before they even get to play on Varsity. So you data doesn't justify your opinion.
Club lacrosse hasn't been around that long. Farmingdale has had plenty of d1 players before club lax even existed. He had to help them...no?
No the parents and some GREAT assistants over the years did help but nothing from the head coach. All of these great assistants have left to be head coaches of other programs or even assistants at other programs to get away from him. Everyone in the town agrees that he should have retired after the 2011 state championship season. They had the perfect person to take over the job at that time too. He has since left to be the assistant at another school after realizing this guy will never retire.
And you get your data how ? ALL ? Your wrong buddy. Understand that it is a different time now. Some kids are committing before they even get to play on Varsity. So you data doesn't justify your opinion.
And it appears that some of these recent early commits are getting the stink eye from the varsity and assistant coaches. It would seem that they are a bit put off by the fact that a club player can be committed without ever having played for them. Kind of minimizes their self imposed "I am the master of the gateway to college lax in (insert your town here)"
How dare a player allow him or herself to be committed without the input of the exalted HS lax coach and staff. Neal and prepare to be beheaded as an example to those who follow.
Then the abuse starts in a classic passive / aggressive manner towards said players by HS coaches who I thought were bound by the same ZERO TOLERANCE to bullying laws that schools abide by. Above the law is where they operate in order to knock down kids who have accomplished a considerable amount prior to entering HS.
It's disgusting. Period.
And you get your data how ? ALL ? Your wrong buddy. Understand that it is a different time now. Some kids are committing before they even get to play on Varsity. So you data doesn't justify your opinion.
And it appears that some of these recent early commits are getting the stink eye from the varsity and assistant coaches. It would seem that they are a bit put off by the fact that a club player can be committed without ever having played for them. Kind of minimizes their self imposed "I am the master of the gateway to college lax in (insert your town here)"
How dare a player allow him or herself to be committed without the input of the exalted HS lax coach and staff. Neal and prepare to be beheaded as an example to those who follow.
Then the abuse starts in a classic passive / aggressive manner towards said players by HS coaches who I thought were bound by the same ZERO TOLERANCE to bullying laws that schools abide by. Above the law is where they operate in order to knock down kids who have accomplished a considerable amount prior to entering HS.
It's disgusting. Period.
WOW - dude it is the hap hap happiest time of the year, take it down a notch, we went from "guy is old and should retire" to early commits are being bullied buy HS coaches. somebody didn't get hugged enough as a kid.
If you do not believe this is happening you are foolish
And you get your data how ? ALL ? Your wrong buddy. Understand that it is a different time now. Some kids are committing before they even get to play on Varsity. So you data doesn't justify your opinion.
And it appears that some of these recent early commits are getting the stink eye from the varsity and assistant coaches. It would seem that they are a bit put off by the fact that a club player can be committed without ever having played for them. Kind of minimizes their self imposed "I am the master of the gateway to college lax in (insert your town here)"
How dare a player allow him or herself to be committed without the input of the exalted HS lax coach and staff. Neal and prepare to be beheaded as an example to those who follow.
Then the abuse starts in a classic passive / aggressive manner towards said players by HS coaches who I thought were bound by the same ZERO TOLERANCE to bullying laws that schools abide by. Above the law is where they operate in order to knock down kids who have accomplished a considerable amount prior to entering HS.
It's disgusting. Period.
WOW - dude it is the hap hap happiest time of the year, take it down a notch, we went from "guy is old and should retire" to early commits are being bullied buy HS coaches. somebody didn't get hugged enough as a kid.
I understand how that may have come across and wasn't trying to be a bah humbug!
But the Scrooges that are some HS coaches need to be held to the same level of zero tolerances for bullying behavior.
How pitifully common is it that we as parents and school administrators alike tend to turn the other cheek when we witness these behaviors in those that we place the care of our kids? Especially when that kid is in a traditionally powerhouse program. We look the other way; don't want to rock the boat for fear of being blackballed by the God that is the HS Varsity lax coach. Woe be unto he that nudges the pedestal that the community has placed him upon. His wraith or fear of such is enough to keep our mouths shut in hopes that he will ultimately grant a nod of approval and perhaps make a call to a college or two in our kid's favor.
Further and deeper the fear is for those families not fortunate enough to be able to pay the ransom fees to get ones kid into a great club program and or private coaching to further their child's growing skills. Thus; the parents must rely on the HS coach and feed his ego along with many others, all the while swallowing the bile of witnessing extreme verbal and psychological as well as subliminal abuses that the kids must endure. Again in hopes of being smiled down upon for their expected servitude
My son was extremely fortunate to be committed very early to an elite academic institution, yet must still cower to the bully like behavior that comes with being in a great lacrosse HS historically.
I wonder then, just who is ultimately responsible for the propagation of these abusive coaching trends? The school? The administrators? The families? Or the child him or herself?
Staying in abusive relationships is akin to running a psychological gauntlet. This has been well easblished in the media as of late.
With all of this in mind; honestly ask yourself if you've not seen such behaviors at one time or another in HS sports. And you looked the other way be it for your kid or someone else's
You are lying to yourself if you say you haven't.
We are all guilty for allowing this to continue. But we tell ourselves that the payoff; if there is one, however remote, is worth it.
But ask your kid: Is it worth it?
I expect. The "you gotta toughen up your kid up and take the lumps as they come" brigade to chime in; but seriously, where is the line drawn if it ever will be?
My kid got lucky just have to keep himbetweenthe knew and he is on auto pilot....but what about all of the rest who must put all of their lax eggs in one basket and hope the bully coaches don't crush them or their dreams?
Think about it. You all know a kid or kids living and playing under those circumstances be it on his or her team or another that you've witnesses.
We can't just keep shaking our heads as we walk away muttering " I'm glad that's not my kid's coach"
That makes us all complicit in this crime, if you will.
And it appears that some of these recent early commits are getting the stink eye from the varsity and assistant coaches. It would seem that they are a bit put off by the fact that a club player can be committed without ever having played for them. Kind of minimizes their self imposed "I am the master of the gateway to college lax in (insert your town here)"
How dare a player allow him or herself to be committed without the input of the exalted HS lax coach and staff. Neal and prepare to be beheaded as an example to those who follow.
Then the abuse starts in a classic passive / aggressive manner towards said players by HS coaches who I thought were bound by the same ZERO TOLERANCE to bullying laws that schools abide by. Above the law is where they operate in order to knock down kids who have accomplished a considerable amount prior to entering HS.
It's disgusting. Period. [/quote]
This is a very one sided view. Sometimes, the early commit feels that they are commited to play for(insert your college here), and they dont have to play the team game or that they dont have to follow the program because they have already made it. Sometimes junior feels that they are better than the rest of their team because Duke wanted him or Hopkins or UVA. Sometimes a coach needs to reign them in for the teams sake as well as for his sake. Because whether he knows it or not his sh*t does still infact stink. Sometimes when they are not coddled and told how wonderful they are and thanked for playing for such a lowly high school team they cry because they are being bullied. the mean coach is an ingrate. The mean coach is jealous the mean coach is angry because he didnt get to play the king maker.
Sometimes the very talented are prima donnas and want to be told how great they are. They are not always the team player that daddy thinks they are. The one guy who will still push him is the coach. Then the coach will get blasted for being a jealous, angry bully. Then junior goes off and struggles because the College coach who wanted him to come has him on campus and wants performance, team play and sacrifice. All things the superstar refused to learn from a bully
And it appears that some of these recent early commits are getting the stink eye from the varsity and assistant coaches. It would seem that they are a bit put off by the fact that a club player can be committed without ever having played for them. Kind of minimizes their self imposed "I am the master of the gateway to college lax in (insert your town here)"
How dare a player allow him or herself to be committed without the input of the exalted HS lax coach and staff. Neal and prepare to be beheaded as an example to those who follow.
Then the abuse starts in a classic passive / aggressive manner towards said players by HS coaches who I thought were bound by the same ZERO TOLERANCE to bullying laws that schools abide by. Above the law is where they operate in order to knock down kids who have accomplished a considerable amount prior to entering HS.
It's disgusting. Period.
This is a very one sided view. Sometimes, the early commit feels that they are commited to play for(insert your college here), and they dont have to play the team game or that they dont have to follow the program because they have already made it. Sometimes junior feels that they are better than the rest of their team because Duke wanted him or Hopkins or UVA. Sometimes a coach needs to reign them in for the teams sake as well as for his sake. Because whether he knows it or not his sh*t does still infact stink. Sometimes when they are not coddled and told how wonderful they are and thanked for playing for such a lowly high school team they cry because they are being bullied. the mean coach is an ingrate. The mean coach is jealous the mean coach is angry because he didnt get to play the king maker.
Sometimes the very talented are prima donnas and want to be told how great they are. They are not always the team player that daddy thinks they are. The one guy who will still push him is the coach. Then the coach will get blasted for being a jealous, angry bully. Then junior goes off and struggles because the College coach who wanted him to come has him on campus and wants performance, team play and sacrifice. All things the superstar refused to learn from a bully [/quote]
Your point is taken and much appreciated as that is also a scenario we have all Witnessed but to a lesser degree just based on the rarity of that combination.
However, let's cull the parameters a little more. Say little Johnny is as humble as American apple pie to a fault. Does everything by the numbers, is first on and last off of the field.
Now Let's focus on the real psychopaths that we are endearing and subjecting our kid to. We have all seen it. Using my son as an example was to show that he at least has a potential escape hatch eventually and hopefully if he continues to grow and mature. He may yet be passed by as the late bloomers come and possibly surpass his abilities athletically and academically. So the reality check box is firmly filled in over here anyway
But will exposure to these type of outdated coaching techniques ( I wouldn't use the term philosophy, here, as there isnt any to be had at all) tend to be repeated down the line as some kids end up coaching themselves when all is said and done. Become what their environment is/ was; if you will. (Parenting clearly should over ride these influences, but we know how the pack mentality tends shape adolescent minds.
This still does not excuse extreme bullying by that coach or his staff towards that player or any other on that team must endure. I've overheard kids saying that they are sick of the BS and would consider quitting the game entirely if not for the external social pressures to stay in the cycle of abuse/ silence/ ignore it/ play on pattern.
As far as those who may be committed needing further pushing; that is well understood, yet it does not need be done in a demeening and or insulting fashion designed to break an rebuild in the coache's own image. And lets admit another thing... These early commits really are slf motivators and tend to be the type that wouldn't even tell someone they are hurt. They are warriors in their own rights
All your points were valid til that stupid warrior comment. They're not warriors. They're 14-15 yr old KIDS playing a GAME. Nothing more.
All your points were valid til that stupid warrior comment. They're not warriors. They're 14-15 yr old KIDS playing a GAME. Nothing more.
Warrior as in warrior / competitor mentality.
No reason for the negative adjective, thanks.
I played high school football and lacrosse as well as college lacrosse and I have the opposite opinion of high school coaches as the above poster, I think they are too soft on the kids and to friendly and accommodating to the parents. High School sports have become too much about participating and not enough about winning. Kids that are not good should be cut, kids that are failing should be cut and coaches should have little to no contact with parents. If a kid is being picked on by a group of kids in the hall that is bullying if a coach gets in a kids face in practice or in a game yelling and cursing he is not bullying he is coaching and making the kid a better player and the team better. By your definition Herb Brooks was a bully by mine he was a winner and while his players may not have loved him, they respected him.
High school lacrosse needs to be more about the team winning and not the individual stats, about county championships not college commitments and growing as a person not having mommy and daddy making sure their kid is handled with kid gloves.
Kids need to respect the game and respect the coach and the coach needs to respect the game and respect the kids, unfortunately most of these kids do not learn how to respect a coach and in turn do not earn the respect of the coach.
I don't want to be friends with my sons high school coach, I want him to make my son a better player and win, I will teach him about life.
I absolutely agree 100% with your post. Unfortunately a lot of coaches play the favorite game. Either because of parent friendships or some other agenda. Bringing up freshman and some sophomores because the parents are in the coaches ear and don't rock the boat. I have never seen so much b/s in another sport. I am by no means unhappy with my kids situation on the high school team. My issue is that his coach is clearly playing kids that are not ready to play at the varsity level. All this while sitting seniors that a clearly better. Maybe he is thinking about a few years down the road. But like you said the coaches should concentrate on the team and on winning. But concentrate on winning with this team and this year. Do not sacrifice a season or 2 because you think you are going to build a dream team by bringing up 13 year olds to get them ready for a county championship in 2017. Play the best you have now.
I played high school football and lacrosse as well as college lacrosse and I have the opposite opinion of high school coaches as the above poster, I think they are too soft on the kids and to friendly and accommodating to the parents. High School sports have become too much about participating and not enough about winning. Kids that are not good should be cut, kids that are failing should be cut and coaches should have little to no contact with parents. If a kid is being picked on by a group of kids in the hall that is bullying if a coach gets in a kids face in practice or in a game yelling and cursing he is not bullying he is coaching and making the kid a better player and the team better. By your definition Herb Brooks was a bully by mine he was a winner and while his players may not have loved him, they respected him.
As the OP in this aspect of the discussion; I agree with your sentiments entirely.
The part that is the elephant in the room is exactly based on respect or the lack there of and how we as parents can certainly discern the difference between hard nose coaching and mental abuse. I would site several examples in support of this from a personal experience but that would minimize the anonymity of the OP and potentially cause greater difficulties for my child. Therefor, I am complicit in propagating this dilemma.
I am not familiar with the coach you named an as such cannot offer an opinion.
Suffice it to say that there are in fact coaches at the club and Jr high and HS level that need to have their performances and potential for unfit conduct and treatment of players reviewed.
We all can name one or two coaches that fall into serious socially unacceptable behavior categories that we would not have our kid play for if given a chance.
High school lacrosse needs to be more about the team winning and not the individual stats, about county championships not college commitments and growing as a person not having mommy and daddy making sure their kid is handled with kid gloves.
Kids need to respect the game and respect the coach and the coach needs to respect the game and respect the kids, unfortunately most of these kids do not learn how to respect a coach and in turn do not earn the respect of the coach.
I don't want to be friends with my sons high school coach, I want him to make my son a better player and win, I will teach him about life.
I absolutely agree 100% with your post. Unfortunately a lot of coaches play the favorite game. Either because of parent friendships or some other agenda. Bringing up freshman and some sophomores because the parents are in the coaches ear and don't rock the boat. I have never seen so much b/s in another sport. I am by no means unhappy with my kids situation on the high school team. My issue is that his coach is clearly playing kids that are not ready to play at the varsity level. All this while sitting seniors that a clearly better. Maybe he is thinking about a few years down the road. But like you said the coaches should concentrate on the team and on winning. But concentrate on winning with this team and this year. Do not sacrifice a season or 2 because you think you are going to build a dream team by bringing up 13 year olds to get them ready for a county championship in 2017. Play the best you have now.
No coach sits a senior, who is better then a 9th or 10th grader, unless there is a disipline poroblem. I would say 99% of the time the parent has the wrong perception about how good their kid is. It is just too hard for the parents to admit that to themselves. I have first hand knowledge of this.
I played high school football and lacrosse as well as college lacrosse and I have the opposite opinion of high school coaches as the above poster, I think they are too soft on the kids and to friendly and accommodating to the parents. High School sports have become too much about participating and not enough about winning. Kids that are not good should be cut, kids that are failing should be cut and coaches should have little to no contact with parents. If a kid is being picked on by a group of kids in the hall that is bullying if a coach gets in a kids face in practice or in a game yelling and cursing he is not bullying he is coaching and making the kid a better player and the team better. By your definition Herb Brooks was a bully by mine he was a winner and while his players may not have loved him, they respected him.
High school lacrosse needs to be more about the team winning and not the individual stats, about county championships not college commitments and growing as a person not having mommy and daddy making sure their kid is handled with kid gloves.
Kids need to respect the game and respect the coach and the coach needs to respect the game and respect the kids, unfortunately most of these kids do not learn how to respect a coach and in turn do not earn the respect of the coach.
I don't want to be friends with my sons high school coach, I want him to make my son a better player and win, I will teach him about life.
Well said, coaches today in H.S. are not "coaching" anymore , they are trying to be your friend to avaid any unwanted attention towards them or the school, because of this MANY kids when they get into the college ranks they fail out and crash and wind up back their parents basement apt.
In our town the HS lax coach runs a fundraiser every year in which parents fall all over themselves donating money and prizes in order to get on his good side. He also has a for-profit summer lax program that all the best players are "encouraged" to join and again, suck-up dads line up to help him run it.
So, yes, separation would be nice.....but the reality is the entire paradigm has moved in the opposite direction. These coaches use their positions to create other businesses and they need the parents support to make money. Not only are they not separating themselves from the parents they are actively courting them as donors and paying customers.
I played high school football and lacrosse as well as college lacrosse and I have the opposite opinion of high school coaches as the above poster, I think they are too soft on the kids and to friendly and accommodating to the parents. High School sports have become too much about participating and not enough about winning. Kids that are not good should be cut, kids that are failing should be cut and coaches should have little to no contact with parents. If a kid is being picked on by a group of kids in the hall that is bullying if a coach gets in a kids face in practice or in a game yelling and cursing he is not bullying he is coaching and making the kid a better player and the team better. By your definition Herb Brooks was a bully by mine he was a winner and while his players may not have loved him, they respected him.
High school lacrosse needs to be more about the team winning and not the individual stats, about county championships not college commitments and growing as a person not having mommy and daddy making sure their kid is handled with kid gloves.
Kids need to respect the game and respect the coach and the coach needs to respect the game and respect the kids, unfortunately most of these kids do not learn how to respect a coach and in turn do not earn the respect of the coach.
I don't want to be friends with my sons high school coach, I want him to make my son a better player and win, I will teach him about life.
Well said, coaches today in H.S. are not "coaching" anymore , they are trying to be your friend to avaid any unwanted attention towards them or the school, because of this MANY kids when they get into the college ranks they fail out and crash and wind up back their parents basement apt.
define " many " and provide a source, if you will.
In our town the HS lax coach runs a fundraiser every year in which parents fall all over themselves donating money and prizes in order to get on his good side. He also has a for-profit summer lax program that all the best players are "encouraged" to join and again, suck-up dads line up to help him run it.
So, yes, separation would be nice.....but the reality is the entire paradigm has moved in the opposite direction. These coaches use their positions to create other businesses and they need the parents support to make money. Not only are they not separating themselves from the parents they are actively courting them as donors and paying customers.
it is just this type blind pandering and idolizing that would allow an abusive coaching manner to fester and go unchecked. These lemmings then all look down at their feet when questioned why they tolerate such an egomaniac and abusive coach out fear of reproach by the coaches.
tell us please; what happens to the kids in your town that elect to play club ball outside of the "encouraged" for profit town team?
In our town the HS lax coach runs a fundraiser every year in which parents fall all over themselves donating money and prizes in order to get on his good side. He also has a for-profit summer lax program that all the best players are "encouraged" to join and again, suck-up dads line up to help him run it.
So, yes, separation would be nice.....but the reality is the entire paradigm has moved in the opposite direction. These coaches use their positions to create other businesses and they need the parents support to make money. Not only are they not separating themselves from the parents they are actively courting them as donors and paying customers.
it is just this type blind pandering and idolizing that would allow an abusive coaching manner to fester and go unchecked. These lemmings then all look down at their feet when questioned why they tolerate such an egomaniac and abusive coach out fear of reproach by the coaches.
tell us please; what happens to the kids in your town that elect to play club ball outside of the "encouraged" for profit town team?
Not playing on the coach's for-profit team doesn't mean you'll never make it at the HS, it just makes it harder. One way some deal with that is to have their kids play both. They figure the kids get better competition and coaching with the club, but they also can never be accused of not supporting the HS coach. It also results in about a $4500 annual lax bill for the parents....
In our town the HS lax coach runs a fundraiser every year in which parents fall all over themselves donating money and prizes in order to get on his good side. He also has a for-profit summer lax program that all the best players are "encouraged" to join and again, suck-up dads line up to help him run it.
So, yes, separation would be nice.....but the reality is the entire paradigm has moved in the opposite direction. These coaches use their positions to create other businesses and they need the parents support to make money. Not only are they not separating themselves from the parents they are actively courting them as donors and paying customers.
it is just this type blind pandering and idolizing that would allow an abusive coaching manner to fester and go unchecked. These lemmings then all look down at their feet when questioned why they tolerate such an egomaniac and abusive coach out fear of reproach by the coaches.
tell us please; what happens to the kids in your town that elect to play club ball outside of the "encouraged" for profit town team?
Not playing on the coach's for-profit team doesn't mean you'll never make it at the HS, it just makes it harder. One way some deal with that is to have their kids play both. They figure the kids get better competition and coaching with the club, but they also can never be accused of not supporting the HS coach. It also results in about a $4500 annual lax bill for the parents....
4500 try double for those doing just that
I absolutely agree 100% with your post. Unfortunately a lot of coaches play the favorite game. Either because of parent friendships or some other agenda. Bringing up freshman and some sophomores because the parents are in the coaches ear and don't rock the boat. I have never seen so much b/s in another sport. I am by no means unhappy with my kids situation on the high school team. My issue is that his coach is clearly playing kids that are not ready to play at the varsity level. All this while sitting seniors that a clearly better. Maybe he is thinking about a few years down the road. But like you said the coaches should concentrate on the team and on winning. But concentrate on winning with this team and this year. Do not sacrifice a season or 2 because you think you are going to build a dream team by bringing up 13 year olds to get them ready for a county championship in 2017. Play the best you have now.
Please, another mommy crying. All this while sitting seniors that are clearly better? what a joke. Coaches want to win. Most will go down to underclassmen for a reason.....because the upperclassmen arent that good or they are "soft". They know bringing these kids up will cause problems but its about winning. If your kid is sitting behind a frosh, your kid isnt good! deal with it....maybe give him a bowling ball & say here son, this is your new sport.
What do you do if you live in a non peer house town like me(commack) and ghe coach does the same thing. He wants your kid to play for his travel team and no other. My kid is not developed enough to play for one of the big clubs but most clubs are still better than commack. Feel like I'm being forced to pay and play for the varsity coaches "travel" team that stinks.
What do you do if you live in a non peer house town like me(commack) and ghe coach does the same thing. He wants your kid to play for his travel team and no other. My kid is not developed enough to play for one of the big clubs but most clubs are still better than commack. Feel like I'm being forced to pay and play for the varsity coaches "travel" team that stinks.
I would imagine that if my child was destined to be on, by your description, a non competitive HS team and he was yet to deveolop and earnestly wanted to play; I would lean towards putting my money towards a club program where better coaching may be had and ultimately have a better overall experience. I would not enjoy the taste of the feeling of having pay to play, so to speak, for the weaker town travel team.
If he ends up developing into a good enough player for the travel team of his choice, he will at least have that enjoyable experience under his belt with vastly more potential to be scouted if that is in his future.
Even if his high school coach doesn't play him, he can stay with with his club team and continue to grow as a player and have a great time.
Hope that helps
It happens in our high school year after year with our horrible coach.
Any predictions for Smithtown West this Spring?
Any predictions for Smithtown West this Spring?
03/21 vs Bronxville Lose (8-11)
03/25 at Half Hollow Hills West Win (13-11)
03/27 North Babylon Win (13-4)
04/01 Penfield Lose (4-9)
04/01 at West Babylon Win (15-5)
04/08 East Islip Win (8-6)
04/10 at Bellport Win (19-2)
04/14 Deer Park Win (21-1)
04/16 at Half Hollow Hills East Win (8-5)
04/22 Walt Whitman Lose (5-7)
04/29 Smithtown East Lose (5-14)
05/01 Riverhead Win (9-8)
05/06 at Copiague Win (17-2)
05/09 at West Islip Win (10-8)
lose in Second round of playoffs to WM
Any predictions for Smithtown West this Spring?
03/21 vs Bronxville Lose (8-11)
03/25 at Half Hollow Hills West Win (13-11)
03/27 North Babylon Win (13-4)
04/01 Penfield Lose (4-9)
04/01 at West Babylon Win (15-5)
04/08 East Islip Win (8-6)
04/10 at Bellport Win (19-2)
04/14 Deer Park Win (21-1)
04/16 at Half Hollow Hills East Win (8-5)
04/22 Walt Whitman Lose (5-7)
04/29 Smithtown East Lose (5-14)
05/01 Riverhead Win (9-8)
05/06 at Copiague Win (17-2)
05/09 at West Islip Win (10-8)
lose in Second round of playoffs to WM
funny
Any predictions for Smithtown West this Spring?
03/21 vs Bronxville Lose (8-11)
03/25 at Half Hollow Hills West Win (13-11)
03/27 North Babylon Win (13-4)
04/01 Penfield Lose (4-9)
04/01 at West Babylon Win (15-5)
04/08 East Islip Win (8-6)
04/10 at Bellport Win (19-2)
04/14 Deer Park Win (21-1)
04/16 at Half Hollow Hills East Win (8-5)
04/22 Walt Whitman Lose (5-7)
04/29 Smithtown East Lose (5-14)
05/01 Riverhead Win (9-8)
05/06 at Copiague Win (17-2)
05/09 at West Islip Win (10-8)
lose in Second round of playoffs to WM
You think pretty highly of yourself huh????? Can you predict when you will stop annoying us all with your predictions?
Any predictions for Smithtown West this Spring?
lose in Second round of playoffs to WM
You think pretty highly of yourself huh????? Can you predict when you will stop annoying us all with your predictions?
not sure where all the hate is coming from, dude asked for predictions and I gave mine - don't really think too highly of myself, it's 9:30 on New Years Eve and I'm posting on BOTC
This thread is poisonous.... Enough with all the negativity.....I'm just looking forward to a great season. Most of the high school schedules are out and it will be here before you know it. I wish all your sons success this year......My New Years resolution was to be more positive!
Sorry wrong link above.
Team Long Island wins Brine national and then beats Canada for Brogden Cup.
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/artic...da-maryland-wins-brine-brogden-cup/30460
Brine is only good for middle school. The HS competitions are weak and pointless. Much better of doing high quality recruiting tournaments like adrenalin, legacy,UA, even some good on LI for HS age kids
Brine is only good for middle school. The HS competitions are weak and pointless. Much better of doing high quality recruiting tournaments like adrenalin, legacy,UA, even some good on LI for HS age kids
This is not a recruiting event, this is a great event that everybody that participates in loved. with the early recruiting that is going on no event for rising seniors is going to be a recruiting event, everybody on UA was committed and Maverik does not even have a rising senior showcase. nothing wrong with an event that is just flat out fun and this one is just that
Brine is only good for middle school. The HS competitions are weak and pointless. Much better of doing high quality recruiting tournaments like adrenalin, legacy,UA, even some good on LI for HS age kids
This is not a recruiting event, this is a great event that everybody that participates in loved. with the early recruiting that is going on no event for rising seniors is going to be a recruiting event, everybody on UA was committed and Maverik does not even have a rising senior showcase. nothing wrong with an event that is just flat out fun and this one is just that
And expensive!
Somebody kid wasn't invited.
Brine is only good for middle school. The HS competitions are weak and pointless. Much better of doing high quality recruiting tournaments like adrenalin, legacy,UA, even some good on LI for HS age kids
This is not a recruiting event, this is a great event that everybody that participates in loved. with the early recruiting that is going on no event for rising seniors is going to be a recruiting event, everybody on UA was committed and Maverik does not even have a rising senior showcase. nothing wrong with an event that is just flat out fun and this one is just that
And expensive!
And somebody can't afford it!
Brine is only good for middle school. The HS competitions are weak and pointless. Much better of doing high quality recruiting tournaments like adrenalin, legacy,UA, even some good on LI for HS age kids
This is not a recruiting event, this is a great event that everybody that participates in loved. with the early recruiting that is going on no event for rising seniors is going to be a recruiting event, everybody on UA was committed and Maverik does not even have a rising senior showcase. nothing wrong with an event that is just flat out fun and this one is just that
And expensive!
Do you just stick to the free events? I think it's about $400 all in for two rounds of tryouts and the tournament if you make it. not terrible by today's standards
Brine is only good for middle school. The HS competitions are weak and pointless. Much better of doing high quality recruiting tournaments like adrenalin, legacy,UA, even some good on LI for HS age kids
This is not a recruiting event, this is a great event that everybody that participates in loved. with the early recruiting that is going on no event for rising seniors is going to be a recruiting event, everybody on UA was committed and Maverik does not even have a rising senior showcase. nothing wrong with an event that is just flat out fun and this one is just that
And expensive!
Do you just stick to the free events? I think it's about $400 all in for two rounds of tryouts and the tournament if you make it. not terrible by today's standards
Plus the $$$$ to travel to Florida at Christmas during a recruiting blackout period while many of the best players are playing for free on national teams. If you are still looking to be recruited, this does not seem to be the best event to spend money on. Go to prospect days.
Brine is only good for middle school. The HS competitions are weak and pointless. Much better of doing high quality recruiting tournaments like adrenalin, legacy,UA, even some good on LI for HS age kids
This is not a recruiting event, this is a great event that everybody that participates in loved. with the early recruiting that is going on no event for rising seniors is going to be a recruiting event, everybody on UA was committed and Maverik does not even have a rising senior showcase. nothing wrong with an event that is just flat out fun and this one is just that
And expensive!
Do you just stick to the free events? I think it's about $400 all in for two rounds of tryouts and the tournament if you make it. not terrible by today's standards
Plus the $$$$ to travel to Florida at Christmas during a recruiting blackout period while many of the best players are playing for free on national teams. If you are still looking to be recruited, this does not seem to be the best event to spend money on. Go to prospect days.
This is NOT a recruiting event, same travel costs as [lacrosse]'s and you get to wear USA on the front of your jersey, most if not all of the players on the team are committed and the Brogden Cup is for the winning team from the Brine Nationals so it is an extra. Nobody that went to this was forced to go they all wanted to go and all had a great time. Black out period was not an issue.
Once again Chaminade has a Gauntlet of a schedule.
Always plays one of the toughest schedules in the country.
Traditional Rivalry games with stiff competition.
I'd like them to go after a team from Philly too.
03/21 at Ward Melville
03/25 Massapequa
03/28 at West Islip
04/01 Iona Prep
04/11 Manhasset
04/15 St Anthony's
04/21 at Kellenberg Memorial
04/22 St Dominic
04/25 at Yorktown
04/28 at St John Baptist
04/30 at Holy Trinity
05/02 Greenwich HS
05/06 at St Anthony's
05/09 Fairfield Prep
05/16 at Delbarton
In recent years, Yorktown, Fairfield Prep and Delby have caused them fits. How will St. Ants be? How about Pequa this year?
Is Mahhasset a real team this year? Dow West Islip or Ward Melville have bounceback years?
Which team(s) will provide the biggest test?
Once again Chaminade has a Gauntlet of a schedule.
Always plays one of the toughest schedules in the country.
Traditional Rivalry games with stiff competition.
I'd like them to go after a team from Philly too.
03/21 at Ward Melville
03/25 Massapequa
03/28 at West Islip
04/01 Iona Prep
04/11 Manhasset
04/15 St Anthony's
04/21 at Kellenberg Memorial
04/22 St Dominic
04/25 at Yorktown
04/28 at St John Baptist
04/30 at Holy Trinity
05/02 Greenwich HS
05/06 at St Anthony's
05/09 Fairfield Prep
05/16 at Delbarton
In recent years, Yorktown, Fairfield Prep and Delby have caused them fits. How will St. Ants be? How about Pequa this year?
Is Mahhasset a real team this year? Dow West Islip or Ward Melville have bounceback years?
Which team(s) will provide the biggest test?
Chaminade should play one of the toughest schedules, they may be the only lacrosse school out there with 450 boys per grade from all over the lax hotbed of Long Island to choose from! The fact that they don't destroy all these other public schools is kind of lame...or speaks to how strong these LI public school programs really are.
Once again Chaminade has a Gauntlet of a schedule.
Always plays one of the toughest schedules in the country.
Traditional Rivalry games with stiff competition.
I'd like them to go after a team from Philly too.
03/21 at Ward Melville
03/25 Massapequa
03/28 at West Islip
04/01 Iona Prep
04/11 Manhasset
04/15 St Anthony's
04/21 at Kellenberg Memorial
04/22 St Dominic
04/25 at Yorktown
04/28 at St John Baptist
04/30 at Holy Trinity
05/02 Greenwich HS
05/06 at St Anthony's
05/09 Fairfield Prep
05/16 at Delbarton
In recent years, Yorktown, Fairfield Prep and Delby have caused them fits. How will St. Ants be? How about Pequa this year?
Is Mahhasset a real team this year? Dow West Islip or Ward Melville have bounceback years?
Which team(s) will provide the biggest test?
Chaminade should play one of the toughest schedules, they may be the only lacrosse school out there with 450 boys per grade from all over the lax hotbed of Long Island to choose from! The fact that they don't destroy all these other public schools is kind of lame...or speaks to how strong these LI public school programs really are.
Hope to see Greenwich hand them another beat down!
Once again Chaminade has a Gauntlet of a schedule.
Always plays one of the toughest schedules in the country.
Traditional Rivalry games with stiff competition.
I'd like them to go after a team from Philly too.
03/21 at Ward Melville
03/25 Massapequa
03/28 at West Islip
04/01 Iona Prep
04/11 Manhasset
04/15 St Anthony's
04/21 at Kellenberg Memorial
04/22 St Dominic
04/25 at Yorktown
04/28 at St John Baptist
04/30 at Holy Trinity
05/02 Greenwich HS
05/06 at St Anthony's
05/09 Fairfield Prep
05/16 at Delbarton
In recent years, Yorktown, Fairfield Prep and Delby have caused them fits. How will St. Ants be? How about Pequa this year?
Is Mahhasset a real team this year? Dow West Islip or Ward Melville have bounceback years?
Which team(s) will provide the biggest test?
Chaminade should play one of the toughest schedules, they may be the only lacrosse school out there with 450 boys per grade from all over the lax hotbed of Long Island to choose from! The fact that they don't destroy all these other public schools is kind of lame...or speaks to how strong these LI public school programs really are.
Couldn't agree more. Further, no disrespect to the following teams, but are there really competitive games to be had against, Iona, Kellenberg, St. Doms, Holy Trinity, and St. Johns? They should be beating these teams by 30 goals. Also, how is it possible with the amount of D1 commits the games are even close, much less lost, to the publics? 60-70% of the games on their schedule should be lay ups with all that talent. I guess that's why you won't see them play any MIAA, Philly Privates or teams like Culver or the Hill.
Chaminade always one of the best but predict a down year for them. They don't really have the players this year. Credit to them for always playing an extremely tough schedule.
Once again Chaminade has a Gauntlet of a schedule.
Always plays one of the toughest schedules in the country.
Traditional Rivalry games with stiff competition.
I'd like them to go after a team from Philly too.
03/21 at Ward Melville
03/25 Massapequa
03/28 at West Islip
04/01 Iona Prep
04/11 Manhasset
04/15 St Anthony's
04/21 at Kellenberg Memorial
04/22 St Dominic
04/25 at Yorktown
04/28 at St John Baptist
04/30 at Holy Trinity
05/02 Greenwich HS
05/06 at St Anthony's
05/09 Fairfield Prep
05/16 at Delbarton
In recent years, Yorktown, Fairfield Prep and Delby have caused them fits. How will St. Ants be? How about Pequa this year?
Is Mahhasset a real team this year? Dow West Islip or Ward Melville have bounceback years?
Which team(s) will provide the biggest test?
Chaminade should play one of the toughest schedules, they may be the only lacrosse school out there with 450 boys per grade from all over the lax hotbed of Long Island to choose from! The fact that they don't destroy all these other public schools is kind of lame...or speaks to how strong these LI public school programs really are.
Hope to see Greenwich hand them another beat down!
Why the hate? Little Johnny didn't make the team?
Once again Chaminade has a Gauntlet of a schedule.
Always plays one of the toughest schedules in the country.
Traditional Rivalry games with stiff competition.
I'd like them to go after a team from Philly too.
03/21 at Ward Melville
03/25 Massapequa
03/28 at West Islip
04/01 Iona Prep
04/11 Manhasset
04/15 St Anthony's
04/21 at Kellenberg Memorial
04/22 St Dominic
04/25 at Yorktown
04/28 at St John Baptist
04/30 at Holy Trinity
05/02 Greenwich HS
05/06 at St Anthony's
05/09 Fairfield Prep
05/16 at Delbarton
In recent years, Yorktown, Fairfield Prep and Delby have caused them fits. How will St. Ants be? How about Pequa this year?
Is Mahhasset a real team this year? Dow West Islip or Ward Melville have bounceback years?
Which team(s) will provide the biggest test?
Chaminade should play one of the toughest schedules, they may be the only lacrosse school out there with 450 boys per grade from all over the lax hotbed of Long Island to choose from! The fact that they don't destroy all these other public schools is kind of lame...or speaks to how strong these LI public school programs really are.
Hope to see Greenwich hand them another beat down!
Why the hate? Little Johnny didn't make the team?
Down year this year? Excuse making before the season starts already? Please. There should never be a down year for Chaminade. It is flat out embarrassing that a little town team like Yorktown completely owns Chaminade. Good for them though that they keep signing up for the embarrassment.
Chaminade always one of the best but predict a down year for them. They don't really have the players this year. Credit to them for always playing an extremely tough schedule.
Oh please. What was the excuse last year? Just give credit to the teams that beat them. It's ok, you'll still go to heaven even if you praise the public pagans.
We saw how good their football team was this year!! I'll keep my 40k and keep my kids in a good public school.
We saw how good their football team was this year!! I'll keep my 40k and keep my kids in a good public school.
Thanks for the heads up
40K??? I received 1/2 off tuition to have my kid play there?
The 40k is just to get him on the team. I think St Anthony's makes you give a donation or buy a banner for the fence. There are a few family names on that fence where the kid wouldn't have made his public school team. All it takes is a banner and a dream. Hey you never know.
Don't be s [lacrosse]. No cuts on most public school lax teams. You wish your kid can go to Chaminade or St. Anthony 's. Guess the school bus doesn't stop at the trailer park. Guess education doesn't matter either. They would crush most public school teams
The freshman teams would beat most public school varsity teams.
The freshman teams would beat most public school varsity teams.
And nobody that has a kid in public school cares .
Who's the team's to beat this year in Nassau and Suffolk B division.Looks like a lot of good teams out there.Just looking to get away from all the negativity on this site.TIA for your input.
The freshman teams would beat most public school varsity teams.
That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while. The varsity teams can't even beat the good publics! Funny thing is many publics boast beer school D1 commits as well.
How many good publics are there. 3 in nassau. 2 in suffolk. We will see this year big mouth
The freshman teams would beat most public school varsity teams.
That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while. The varsity teams can't even beat the good publics! Funny thing is many publics boast beer school D1 commits as well.
Rather my son goes to a "beer school D1" than a school like Duke that now sounds the "muslim call to prayer" daily. BTW if you think there aren't booze and drugs on Ivy campus's you are sadly mistaken. I know of kids that went to IVIES that came out with no degree and a drug problem. Be careful IVY Daddy.
How many good publics are there. 3 in nassau. 2 in suffolk. We will see this year big mouth
Chaminade would be demolished if they played a powerhouse like Smithtown East. Wish a game like that would happen. WM should easily beat them as well. Soyosset is also on par with cham. GC and Mannhasst would be good competitive games. Chaminade couldn't even get past tiny Greenwich last year! All the schools mentioned are town teams boasting top recruited players. Why bother paying all that money? Makes no sense. My son is going top 20 at one of the traditional powers and am very pleased with the public education and athletic programs in the public system.
Smithtown was one of the teams I was talking about. Syosset, are you nuts. Best Manhasett every year and GC will never play Chaminade. Massapeqa and Ward Melville that's it. Man you love talking about that Grenwich team . Give it a rest
Don't EVER compare Chaminade education to any public school on LI
The freshman teams would beat most public school varsity teams.
INMHO it would be great, for towns that could do it, is to set up public freshmen teams. Do all of the catholic schools have Freshmen teams? Throw in a few Publics and you can really tell which is better or at least the gap between them.
Once you have a freshman team you can really develop a program. You can differentiate the players and develop their skills.You could pull up MS kids to Freshman and really have a developmental squad for MS. This would strengthen the sport for each school.
The freshman teams would beat most public school varsity teams.
INMHO it would be great, for towns that could do it, is to set up public freshmen teams. Do all of the catholic schools have Freshmen teams? Throw in a few Publics and you can really tell which is better or at least the gap between them.
Once you have a freshman team you can really develop a program. You can differentiate the players and develop their skills.You could pull up MS kids to Freshman and really have a developmental squad for MS. This would strengthen the sport for each school.
It's called JV!!
How many good publics are there. 3 in nassau. 2 in suffolk. We will see this year big mouth
Chaminade would be demolished if they played a powerhouse like Smithtown East. Wish a game like that would happen. WM should easily beat them as well. Soyosset is also on par with cham. GC and Mannhasst would be good competitive games. Chaminade couldn't even get past tiny Greenwich last year! All the schools mentioned are town teams boasting top recruited players. Why bother paying all that money? Makes no sense. My son is going top 20 at one of the traditional powers and am very pleased with the public education and athletic programs in the public system.
Your post has few facts and some misguided opinions....
"Tiny" Greenwich 2700 has kids = large hs that always has a competitive team
By way of reference Smithtown east 1700 kids
How has that "powerhouse SE team" done against perennial national powers in the last 10 years? expect they have a loosing record to historically strong local top 20 teams WM, WI etc.
Manhasset always gonna be on the schedule and almost always a good game. You know they are a great program.
GC never gonna be on the schedule - politics on the GC side.
Now I'll answer your question ..."Why bother paying all that money?" Parents and/or kids want something more than the public HS offers. Most likely it is a decision not entirely based on any lacrosse aspirations.
Very sincere Congrats to your son... that is great!
Don't EVER compare Chaminade education to any public school on LI
Why not? Where are your Intel semifinalists? Oh you have none!
How many good publics are there. 3 in nassau. 2 in suffolk. We will see this year big mouth
Chaminade would be demolished if they played a powerhouse like Smithtown East. Wish a game like that would happen. WM should easily beat them as well. Soyosset is also on par with cham. GC and Mannhasst would be good competitive games. Chaminade couldn't even get past tiny Greenwich last year! All the schools mentioned are town teams boasting top recruited players. Why bother paying all that money? Makes no sense. My son is going top 20 at one of the traditional powers and am very pleased with the public education and athletic programs in the public system.
Your post has few facts and some misguided opinions....
"Tiny" Greenwich 2700 has kids = large hs that always has a competitive team
By way of reference Smithtown east 1700 kids
How has that "powerhouse SE team" done against perennial national powers in the last 10 years? expect they have a loosing record to historically strong local top 20 teams WM, WI etc.
Manhasset always gonna be on the schedule and almost always a good game. You know they are a great program.
GC never gonna be on the schedule - politics on the GC side.
Now I'll answer your question ..."Why bother paying all that money?" Parents and/or kids want something more than the public HS offers. Most likely it is a decision not entirely based on any lacrosse aspirations.
Very sincere Congrats to your son... that is great!
Correct me if I am wrong but not all top 20 lacrosse programs will give you a top 20 education. For kids going to a school to play lacrosse instead of looking at the big picture it could be a bumpy ride. Look at what happens to some great lacrosse players like the kid from west Islip He had to change schools and the LAX numbers never came. Lets remember college is for an education EVERYTHING ELSE is second. As far as private school VS public. Private school kids are more prepared for college FACT . Also look at Ivy rosters 80% are private school kids.
How many good publics are there. 3 in nassau. 2 in suffolk. We will see this year big mouth
Chaminade would be demolished if they played a powerhouse like Smithtown East. Wish a game like that would happen. WM should easily beat them as well. Soyosset is also on par with cham. GC and Mannhasst would be good competitive games. Chaminade couldn't even get past tiny Greenwich last year! All the schools mentioned are town teams boasting top recruited players. Why bother paying all that money? Makes no sense. My son is going top 20 at one of the traditional powers and am very pleased with the public education and athletic programs in the public system.
Your post has few facts and some misguided opinions....
"Tiny" Greenwich 2700 has kids = large hs that always has a competitive team
By way of reference Smithtown east 1700 kids
How has that "powerhouse SE team" done against perennial national powers in the last 10 years? expect they have a loosing record to historically strong local top 20 teams WM, WI etc.
Manhasset always gonna be on the schedule and almost always a good game. You know they are a great program.
GC never gonna be on the schedule - politics on the GC side.
Now I'll answer your question ..."Why bother paying all that money?" Parents and/or kids want something more than the public HS offers. Most likely it is a decision not entirely based on any lacrosse aspirations.
Very sincere Congrats to your son... that is great!
Why won't your school play teams from the MIAA, Philly Privates, The Hill or Culver? Either you're a Lacrosse powerhouse or your just another decent program at a private school. Its either one or the other. No big deal, but which is it? Can't boast about being one of top programs in the country when the program routinely ducks playing the best. And yes, you should be beating every public school you play. Manhasset has what? 220 kids per grade? 100+ of which are boys? How is that even a game? Especially when many of the better players from that town go to Chaminade anyway...
The freshman teams would beat most public school varsity teams.
INMHO it would be great, for towns that could do it, is to set up public freshmen teams. Do all of the catholic schools have Freshmen teams? Throw in a few Publics and you can really tell which is better or at least the gap between them.
Once you have a freshman team you can really develop a program. You can differentiate the players and develop their skills.You could pull up MS kids to Freshman and really have a developmental squad for MS. This would strengthen the sport for each school.
It's called JV!!
At that is the problem. Everyone has lost sight on the value Freshman sports has for the growth of any sport.
How many good publics are there. 3 in nassau. 2 in suffolk. We will see this year big mouth
Chaminade would be demolished if they played a powerhouse like Smithtown East. Wish a game like that would happen. WM should easily beat them as well. Soyosset is also on par with cham. GC and Mannhasst would be good competitive games. Chaminade couldn't even get past tiny Greenwich last year! All the schools mentioned are town teams boasting top recruited players. Why bother paying all that money? Makes no sense. My son is going top 20 at one of the traditional powers and am very pleased with the public education and athletic programs in the public system.
Your post has few facts and some misguided opinions....
"Tiny" Greenwich 2700 has kids = large hs that always has a competitive team
By way of reference Smithtown east 1700 kids
How has that "powerhouse SE team" done against perennial national powers in the last 10 years? expect they have a loosing record to historically strong local top 20 teams WM, WI etc.
Manhasset always gonna be on the schedule and almost always a good game. You know they are a great program.
GC never gonna be on the schedule - politics on the GC side.
Now I'll answer your question ..."Why bother paying all that money?" Parents and/or kids want something more than the public HS offers. Most likely it is a decision not entirely based on any lacrosse aspirations.
Very sincere Congrats to your son... that is great!
Greenwich may have a good size enrollment, buy draws from a small area, unlike Cham
Syosset will be very strong this year, favorites for county champs
Smithtown beat WM last year and should this year as well, that team will be very good for at least 2 more years. They are on an upswing while WI, WM are down in talent. It's about the present, not the past.
And you are right about Chaminade offering more. More expense, more travel time, more sheltering from reality.
I would cosnider sending my son there if our public school district was not up to par academically or athletically, as they are both important to us. Luckily we do not have that problem. Long Island has top notch public institutions.
But to each their own. Lots of great kids on all these programs and I am looking forward to an exciting season.
The freshman teams would beat most public school varsity teams.
INMHO it would be great, for towns that could do it, is to set up public freshmen teams. Do all of the catholic schools have Freshmen teams? Throw in a few Publics and you can really tell which is better or at least the gap between them.
Once you have a freshman team you can really develop a program. You can differentiate the players and develop their skills.You could pull up MS kids to Freshman and really have a developmental squad for MS. This would strengthen the sport for each school.
All public schools on LI had freshman teams for all sports until the mid to late 90's when they scrapped them for budgetary reasons.
How many good publics are there. 3 in nassau. 2 in suffolk. We will see this year big mouth
Chaminade would be demolished if they played a powerhouse like Smithtown East. Wish a game like that would happen. WM should easily beat them as well. Soyosset is also on par with cham. GC and Mannhasst would be good competitive games. Chaminade couldn't even get past tiny Greenwich last year! All the schools mentioned are town teams boasting top recruited players. Why bother paying all that money? Makes no sense. My son is going top 20 at one of the traditional powers and am very pleased with the public education and athletic programs in the public system.
And that was your choice. So you better be happy. But sounds to me that you lack confident. Your post also says you're ignorant.
Your post has few facts and some misguided opinions....
"Tiny" Greenwich 2700 has kids = large hs that always has a competitive team
By way of reference Smithtown east 1700 kids
How has that "powerhouse SE team" done against perennial national powers in the last 10 years? expect they have a loosing record to historically strong local top 20 teams WM, WI etc.
Manhasset always gonna be on the schedule and almost always a good game. You know they are a great program.
GC never gonna be on the schedule - politics on the GC side.
Now I'll answer your question ..."Why bother paying all that money?" Parents and/or kids want something more than the public HS offers. Most likely it is a decision not entirely based on any lacrosse aspirations.
Very sincere Congrats to your son... that is great!
Greenwich may have a good size enrollment, buy draws from a small area, unlike Cham
Syosset will be very strong this year, favorites for county champs
Smithtown beat WM last year and should this year as well, that team will be very good for at least 2 more years. They are on an upswing while WI, WM are down in talent. It's about the present, not the past.
And you are right about Chaminade offering more. More expense, more travel time, more sheltering from reality.
I would cosnider sending my son there if our public school district was not up to par academically or athletically, as they are both important to us. Luckily we do not have that problem. Long Island has top notch public institutions.
But to each their own. Lots of great kids on all these programs and I am looking forward to an exciting season.
I would bet to say there would be a lot more kids going to private schools today if express was still the only travel option and early recruiting didn't exist. Most kids are being recruited long before their varsity coach has ever coached them. School programs deserve 15% of the credit it is their travel team that gets them on the radar
I would bet to say there would be a lot more kids going to private schools today if express was still the only travel option and early recruiting didn't exist. Most kids are being recruited long before their varsity coach has ever coached them. School programs deserve 15% of the credit it is their travel team that gets them on the radar
so true, but i think you are over estimating the HS coach %; but they do want to take credit for the finished product that club teams give them
Again...The freshman team would beat most public school warsity teams. In your wisdom you compared them to teams vying for County and State championships. Look at the list of High School Teams and I will restate my claim....Chaminade frshman will beat more than 50% of the teams.
How many good publics are there. 3 in nassau. 2 in suffolk. We will see this year big mouth
Chaminade would be demolished if they played a powerhouse like Smithtown East. Wish a game like that would happen. WM should easily beat them as well. Soyosset is also on par with cham. GC and Mannhasst would be good competitive games. Chaminade couldn't even get past tiny Greenwich last year! All the schools mentioned are town teams boasting top recruited players. Why bother paying all that money? Makes no sense. My son is going top 20 at one of the traditional powers and am very pleased with the public education and athletic programs in the public system.
Your post has few facts and some misguided opinions....
"Tiny" Greenwich 2700 has kids = large hs that always has a competitive team
By way of reference Smithtown east 1700 kids
How has that "powerhouse SE team" done against perennial national powers in the last 10 years? expect they have a loosing record to historically strong local top 20 teams WM, WI etc.
Manhasset always gonna be on the schedule and almost always a good game. You know they are a great program.
GC never gonna be on the schedule - politics on the GC side.
Now I'll answer your question ..."Why bother paying all that money?" Parents and/or kids want something more than the public HS offers. Most likely it is a decision not entirely based on any lacrosse aspirations.
Very sincere Congrats to your son... that is great!
Greenwich may have a good size enrollment, buy draws from a small area, unlike Cham
Syosset will be very strong this year, favorites for county champs
Smithtown beat WM last year and should this year as well, that team will be very good for at least 2 more years. They are on an upswing while WI, WM are down in talent. It's about the present, not the past.
And you are right about Chaminade offering more. More expense, more travel time, more sheltering from reality.
I would cosnider sending my son there if our public school district was not up to par academically or athletically, as they are both important to us. Luckily we do not have that problem. Long Island has top notch public institutions.
But to each their own. Lots of great kids on all these programs and I am looking forward to an exciting season.
The lengths some folks will go . . . now it's, "Greenwich may have a good size enrollment, buy draws from a small area, unlike Cham" Neither Manhasset, nor Garden City draw from a large area either but year in and year out have great lax teams. Here's a suggestion, how about tipping the cap to Greenwich for being a very good lax program?
Again...The freshman team would beat most public school warsity teams. In your wisdom you compared them to teams vying for County and State championships. Look at the list of High School Teams and I will restate my claim....Chaminade frshman will beat more than 50% of the teams.
You are living in chammy fairyland, just plain delusional!
Count them up. All of suffolk league 4, half of league 3 and a few probably in league 2. since suffolk is stronger than nassau simmilar numbers there. Sorry GUY, no chammy fantasy here.
Count them up. All of suffolk league 4, half of league 3 and a few probably in league 2. since suffolk is stronger than nassau simmilar numbers there. Sorry GUY, no chammy fantasy here.
You think the Freshman team could beat half of League 3????????? I see 1 team where that is possible, all the others are strong enough to beat a 9th grade team.
Chaminades varsity squad can't even beat the better publics, they also are lacking in talent this year. They better hope luck is on their side!
Again...The freshman team would beat most public school warsity teams. In your wisdom you compared them to teams vying for County and State championships. Look at the list of High School Teams and I will restate my claim....Chaminade frshman will beat more than 50% of the teams.
Nobody cares about The Chaminade Freshman team but the 40 families involved. You only care because your kid is stuck playing on it and you know its a Shi##y situation. Make the best of it her will eventually play Varsity in 12th grade.
you know that because they deign to attend Chaminade that they are superior athletes . the spring of jr year is probably pretty tough, many of the players will have to be cut because theres no longer 50 roster spots per grade like in freshman or sophomore year
Oh ....I see. They play varsity as Juniors and Seniors which is the proper way versus the whining public school freshman who "play" varsity but ride the pine for 3 years so daddy can say his kid is a 4 year varsity player although its at a low level public school
Oh ....I see. They play varsity as Juniors and Seniors which is the proper way versus the whining public school freshman who "play" varsity but ride the pine for 3 years so daddy can say his kid is a 4 year varsity player although its at a low level public school
There are sophomores that were all county, all li, and all tri-state last year. A couple even made under armour.
Once again Chaminade has a Gauntlet of a schedule.
Always plays one of the toughest schedules in the country.
Traditional Rivalry games with stiff competition.
I'd like them to go after a team from Philly too.
03/21 at Ward Melville
03/25 Massapequa
03/28 at West Islip
04/01 Iona Prep
04/11 Manhasset
04/15 St Anthony's
04/21 at Kellenberg Memorial
04/22 St Dominic
04/25 at Yorktown
04/28 at St John Baptist
04/30 at Holy Trinity
05/02 Greenwich HS
05/06 at St Anthony's
05/09 Fairfield Prep
05/16 at Delbarton
In recent years, Yorktown, Fairfield Prep and Delby have caused them fits. How will St. Ants be? How about Pequa this year?
Is Mahhasset a real team this year? Dow West Islip or Ward Melville have bounceback years?
Which team(s) will provide the biggest test?
Where did you find the schedule?
Oh ....I see. They play varsity as Juniors and Seniors which is the proper way versus the whining public school freshman who "play" varsity but ride the pine for 3 years so daddy can say his kid is a 4 year varsity player although its at a low level public school
Another way to look at it would be the very best 9th graders will play Varsity because they are extremely talented. These are the same kids, if they chose to go private would be starting in front of your son. They are also the kids that will be very prepared to play at the next level having played up for four years prior to senior year. Most started or played plenty on JV as 8th graders. Not to worry, they will meet will all meet again in college. Good luck.
Staying away from the Main Line I see.
Once again Chaminade has a Gauntlet of a schedule.
Always plays one of the toughest schedules in the country.
Traditional Rivalry games with stiff competition.
I'd like them to go after a team from Philly too.
03/21 at Ward Melville
03/25 Massapequa
03/28 at West Islip
04/01 Iona Prep
04/11 Manhasset
04/15 St Anthony's
04/21 at Kellenberg Memorial
04/22 St Dominic
04/25 at Yorktown
04/28 at St John Baptist
04/30 at Holy Trinity
05/02 Greenwich HS
05/06 at St Anthony's
05/09 Fairfield Prep
05/16 at Delbarton
In recent years, Yorktown, Fairfield Prep and Delby have caused them fits. How will St. Ants be? How about Pequa this year?
Is Mahhasset a real team this year? Dow West Islip or Ward Melville have bounceback years?
Which team(s) will provide the biggest test?
Where did you find the schedule?
manhassett and garden city both actually had to recruit kids away from chaminade. it blew up in garden city face as the kids they promised varsity spots were not ready for prime time and its exactly the reason why they lost in playoff to manhassett. completely overwhelmed.
manhassett and garden city both actually had to recruit kids away from chaminade. it blew up in garden city face as the kids they promised varsity spots were not ready for prime time and its exactly the reason why they lost in playoff to manhassett. completely overwhelmed.
The above post has been edited. Do not single out individual players.
All of the schedules are up on Laxpower
GC/Manhasset recruiting? Painful - so public schools recruit kids in their own community and Catholic schools that grab kids from all over LI are losing out to GC/Manhasset internal recruiting - have another cocktail and stand on the sideline of a Express game and listen to all of the recruiting that takes place - as for GC's lousy season -it was subpar for the Trojans true but at 15-4 with wins over Pequa, Bronxville, and St Paul's it was not exactly like anyone needs to question the team's competitive level - as for GC/Manhasset playoff game - both teams did not represent well - it happens sometimes but Manhasset fought and won - kudos to them
Don't EVER compare Chaminade education to any public school on LI
That's right! over 250 kids from each class make the honor roll at chaminade - more than 63% of each class...wait a second, is that a good or bad thing?
Again...The freshman team would beat most public school warsity teams. In your wisdom you compared them to teams vying for County and State championships. Look at the list of High School Teams and I will restate my claim....Chaminade frshman will beat more than 50% of the teams.
This isn't true, really an uniformed ignorant comment. The varsity game is much faster and the kids are bigger and stronger, this freshman CATHOLIC school (not private, it's catholic) would get demolished.
Oh ....I see. They play varsity as Juniors and Seniors which is the proper way versus the whining public school freshman who "play" varsity but ride the pine for 3 years so daddy can say his kid is a 4 year varsity player although its at a low level public school
anyone can get into Chaminade if they have half a brain...not impressive at all and way inferior to true private schools in terms of academic prowess.
Oh ....I see. They play varsity as Juniors and Seniors which is the proper way versus the whining public school freshman who "play" varsity but ride the pine for 3 years so daddy can say his kid is a 4 year varsity player although its at a low level public school
anyone can get into Chaminade if they have half a brain...not impressive at all and way inferior to true private schools in terms of academic prowess.
Have a friend who's kid was not the greatest students in Middle School c's and b's. He decided to take Catholic School entrance exam. He placed into Chaminade. Now he's telling me his son is on honor roll or whatever the equivalent is at Chaminade. Either the work is a lot easier or this kid became Einstein in one semester. I would take the grades at these Catholics with a grain of salt.
Oh ....I see. They play varsity as Juniors and Seniors which is the proper way versus the whining public school freshman who "play" varsity but ride the pine for 3 years so daddy can say his kid is a 4 year varsity player although its at a low level public school
anyone can get into Chaminade if they have half a brain...not impressive at all and way inferior to true private schools in terms of academic prowess.
Have a friend who's kid was not the greatest students in Middle School c's and b's. He decided to take Catholic School entrance exam. He placed into Chaminade. Now he's telling me his son is on honor roll or whatever the equivalent is at Chaminade. Either the work is a lot easier or this kid became Einstein in one semester. I would take the grades at these Catholics with a grain of salt.
Is it me or is the breath of course offering at the Catholic schools sub par compared to some of the bigger better publics. It seems as if the bandwidth of classes and subject matter at the publics dwarf the catholics.
What I dont know about is the teacher qualifications. You can have the sexiest course offering but some Boob teaching there goes that argument.
Yes the course level at Chaminade, SA's , Kellenberg, St.Dom's, Mercy etc... and other Catholic High Schools is much easier than public schools. That of course is why they have an entrance exam and people pay good money to send students there regardless of lacrosse.
Lacrosse is a game people, scholarships are few and far between.
If your son or daughter is intelligent they can see through the BS that is ruining this sport.
Greed, Politics, Nepotism etc...
Oh ....I see. They play varsity as Juniors and Seniors which is the proper way versus the whining public school freshman who "play" varsity but ride the pine for 3 years so daddy can say his kid is a 4 year varsity player although its at a low level public school
anyone can get into Chaminade if they have half a brain...not impressive at all and way inferior to true private schools in terms of academic prowess.
Have a friend who's kid was not the greatest students in Middle School c's and b's. He decided to take Catholic School entrance exam. He placed into Chaminade. Now he's telling me his son is on honor roll or whatever the equivalent is at Chaminade. Either the work is a lot easier or this kid became Einstein in one semester. I would take the grades at these Catholics with a grain of salt.
You do that...dont take into consideration that maybe the kid needed a little academic discipline and fell lock step with the rest. If you have no interest in the privates outside of bashing, then take it up with a seal instead. It might pleasure you more.
Again....could everyone please stop calling chaminade a private school. It is a CATHOLIC school. Huge difference between the two.
Please enlighten us on the difference
Again....could everyone please stop calling chaminade a private school. It is a CATHOLIC school. Huge difference between the two.
Sorry...Private Catholic school...peace be with you!
How do you know if he really made the honor roll? First your saying your "friends" son is an idiot. then the dad is saying his son is on the honor roll. Maybe daddy doesnt want you to know how bad his kid is doing. What parent is going to admit to a "friend" his kid is stupid.
Compare the roster of Chaminade including those cut junior and senior year and the schools they are going to with any public school and then tell me Chaminade is not worth it. Talk with any D1 coach and if he has 2 players of equal talent and the kid from Chaminade has an 89 average and the public school kid has a 95 he is taking the Chaminade kid every time. More prepared on both fronts.
Oh and buy the way they win playing a brutal schedule.
Is Christ the king in queens a private school? Is molloy a private school? Is st Francis prep a private school? NO
How do you know if he really made the honor roll? First your saying your "friends" son is an idiot. then the dad is saying his son is on the honor roll. Maybe daddy doesnt want you to know how bad his kid is doing. What parent is going to admit to a "friend" his kid is stupid.
Peter Griffin
Chaminade and St Anthony's have advantages and disadvantages from public schools, you can not compare them to public schools because it can never be apples to apples. It is wonderful that we live in a place that offers so many options for excellent education and excellent lacrosse - not better and not worse just different. no that we cleared that up lets get back to lacrosse.
Nassau - A - Massapequa
Nassau - B - Lynbrook (best team in Nassau County)
Nassau - C - Locust Valley
Suffolk - A - Smithtown East (Best Team on LI)
Suffolk - B - Hauppague
Suffolk - C - ???
Catholic - St. Anthony's